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bekksjc_: "burn image".00:00
Dr_Willisa 540line paste - that dosent really say a lot. ;)00:00
umar343am able to boot using a thumb drive.but cannot mount the hard disk even after booting using a thumb drive.00:00
hitsujiTMOumar343: what exactly do you mean by "not able to boot"00:00
Dr_Willisi have a 'write to disk' on my nautilus right click menu..  not sure what added that.00:00
jc_k ty00:00
Dr_Willisumar343:  i would boot the thumbdrive  then we can trouble shoot from there00:00
umar343the laptop switches on , instead of the ubuntu screeen displaying i get a error saying Atheros network is not connected.00:01
umar343mac id is displayed then.00:01
Dr_Willisso you see the grub/whatever boot menu? then the   Loading Ubuntu ......  screen?00:01
hitsujiTMOumar343: sounds like pxe boot. check the integrity of the .iso file ... how did you create the usb image?00:02
umar343i am supposed to see "Loading Ubuntu..." but i don't.also i remove the thumb drive once the laptop has booted.00:02
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Dr_Willisuse the bios/whatever key the pc uses.. to select/be sure it is booting the USB00:03
umar343first used a live cd to boot the laptop then installed the live image to the thumb drive.00:03
visceralso this whole ubuntu spyware thing... to disable it, i just slide the slider in the privacy settings GUI, right?00:03
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viscerali.e. is that the whole thing or is there more config?00:03
umar343whatever option i select , network boot is selected by default/00:04
umar343*default.00:04
Dr_Willisvisceral:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have several articals on it.00:04
visceralDr_Willis, but for 13.10?00:04
Dr_Willisvisceral:  it depends on your exact ubuntu release to disable  the ad lenss00:04
visceral13.10 amd6400:04
mrdebhi is uubntu 1404 the next lts00:04
Dr_Willisi dont memorize the steps.. and im on lubuntu ;)00:05
Dr_Willisthe bot factoids are out of date i belive on the topic also00:05
hitsujiTMOumar343: ok, unfortunately what your exactly saying isn't making much sense. so you can boot to the live cd ok right?00:05
Dr_Willisbut those 2 blog sites had good articals on it.00:05
umar343i uninstalled a number of apps and even apt to prevent my laptop from attacking external network.00:05
mrdebwhat00:05
Dr_Willis0_O00:05
viscerali really wish all this stuff was off by default :(00:06
umar343how do i trouble shoot ?00:06
umar343once a sstem is compromised fully , no anti-virus can help.00:06
Dr_Willisumar343: its not clear what you mean by that last line. about uninstalling stuff00:06
viscerali have found the answer on the web but i have this uneasy feeling that i've missed something00:06
Dr_Willisumar343:  you seem to be sort of rambling.00:06
visceralor that it'll get turned back on with an update :(00:06
Dr_Willisvisceral:  its really not that big of an issue. its overhyped like crazy00:07
visceralDr_Willis, it's the whole fact that i now have to be wary of things turning it back on on me00:07
Dr_Willisvisceral:  if you are that scared of it.. use a differnt non-unity desktiop00:07
visceral:-\00:08
hitsujiTMOvisceral: you can turn of all online dash activity in: system settings -> security & privacy -> search00:08
Dr_Willisvisceral:  cant say ive ever heard of a users setting in their HOME directory getting turned on or off by updates...00:08
Dr_WillisEVER..00:08
umar343i have uninstalled wireless drivers,games,libreoffice,remote desktop clients,desktop sharing and executed "sudo apt-get remove apt"00:08
dimitrilcAnybody know why Mark of the Ninja runs so sluggish on my Intel hd 4000?00:08
Dr_Willisthe pacakge manager tools dont touch stuff in the users home.00:08
umar343to prevent ddos attacks.00:08
visceralDr_Willis, the mechanism may change and thus ignore the local setting00:08
visceraltheoretically speaking00:08
umar343refer onlne cves , i found a website about apt leading to ddos attacks.00:09
Dr_Willisvisceral:  in theory they could replace busybox with some  folding@home app also.. but i doubt it..00:09
Dr_Willisin theory the only safe pc.. is one thats turned off...00:09
tanujhello?00:10
Dr_Willisumar343:  perhaps you should step back and tell us why you think you need to do such weird things to 'prevent ddos' attacks00:10
umar343even a turned off pc is unsafe.i got the  info about ddos on packetstormsecurity00:10
tanujhello?00:10
Dr_Willishello tanuj00:10
tanujhi00:10
tanujhow aer things00:10
tanujae00:10
tanujare00:10
jmgkgreat who are you again?00:10
tanujme?00:10
jmgkyes00:11
jmgkI am Obama Barack Hussein00:11
umar343i once logged into the hacker's chat on gogloom.com00:11
jmgk:D00:11
jmgkheh umar34300:11
tanuji am someone who just joined this channel00:11
jmgkawesome00:11
umar343it was in 200900:11
tanujcool00:11
Dr_Willisumar343:  great - good for you.. now is there some actual ubuntu support question you had?00:11
tanujwhat is gogloom00:11
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umar343have been having different kinds of problems since then , involving social engineering as well.00:11
tanujno, I'm just here to chat00:11
hitsujiTMO!ot | tanuj jmgk this is a support channel not a chat channel00:12
tanujwelcome undert00:12
ubottutanuj jmgk this is a support channel not a chat channel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:12
jmgkok00:12
tanujoh sorry00:12
umar343i need to access the hard disk and DVD writer to install another OS on another dvd.00:12
umar343how do i do it ?00:12
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Dr_Willisboot a live-usb and you should have full access to the system umar34300:13
Dr_Willisyou can install from a live-usb also00:13
umar343how do i create a live usb ?00:13
Dr_Willisumar343:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of tools and guides on making them.00:14
Dr_Willisubuntu  homepage also has a tool for it00:14
umar343i want to understand the hexadecimal output of the following command. sudo lspci -vvxxx  http://pastebin.com/cKsYpScq00:15
lxle-fanwhich white box in the alongside ubuntu represents the newer distro?00:17
sisterFisterAfter installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default00:18
sisterFisteranyone knwo what's going on ?00:18
hitsujiTMOumar343: considering you are running a ubuntu environment right now ... you can just install netbootin and use that to create a live usb00:18
hitsujiTMOunetbootin*00:18
Mentirosohola00:19
umar343why am i not able to access the content on the hard disk ? if i am allowed.00:19
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hitsujiTMOumar343: are you running the live cd now?00:20
umar343no on a usb00:20
umar343thumb drive.00:20
umar343i remove the thumb drive once the desktop appears.00:20
Dr_Willisumar343:  because you need to use sudo/root accessw as needed00:21
hitsujiTMOumar343: you need to keep the usb in.00:21
Dr_Williserr.. You boot the thumbdrive... then remove it?00:21
garciancI don't think you are supposed to remove the thumb drive without umount00:21
umar343i read online that sudo is not the ultimate command.00:21
Dr_Willisumar343:  i think you need to read more..00:21
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Dr_Willis!permissions | umar34300:22
ubottuumar343: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:22
umar343i want to know the specialities of nano editor.00:23
hitsujiTMOumar343: ok. ok, so can you open the terminal run this and tell us the last line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lsblk | pastebinit00:23
hitsujiTMOumar343: it seems like you are just here to troll us00:23
Dr_WillishitsujiTMO:  a grasshopper troll.00:23
umar343http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333137/00:26
hitsujiTMOumar343: can you also paste the output of: mount | pastebinit00:27
umar343http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333143/00:28
umar343i  always set the swap to minimum.00:28
sisterFisteranyone knwo what's going on ?00:29
sisterFisterAfter installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default00:29
Dr_WillissisterFister:  sounds like its booting to the CONSOLE  if its  just saying 'login:'00:29
Dr_Willisand can you login?00:29
sisterFisterDr_Willis: i can log in00:29
hitsujiTMOumar343: you have not booted from the usb, you have booted from the hard drive.00:30
sisterFisterDr_Willis: and browse files normally, just no xfce environment00:30
Dr_WillissisterFister:  and this wasent a server install was it?  ;)00:30
sisterFisterDr_Willis: no00:30
Dr_Willishad someond confused about that last week.. hehe00:30
Dr_WillissisterFister:  try 'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' and see if the gui starts up00:30
hitsujiTMOumar343: can you please explain the exact problem again becaus ehtere doesn't seem to be one00:30
umar343the problem is not visible unfortunately,it is very complex.00:31
umar343i cannot boot using the hard disk or live cd.00:31
umar343there is a virus.i have files stored on the hard disk.00:32
hitsujiTMOumar343: you have booted from the hard drive now00:32
Dr_Willisa virus on what os?00:32
sisterFisterDr_Willis: 'startx' outputs Fatal server error: no screens found00:32
umar343ubuntu 13.0400:32
Dr_WillissisterFister:  sounds like you got some X configuration/Drivers issues going on00:32
Dr_WillisI doubt if you have a 'virus' on ubuntu 13.0400:33
sisterFisterDr_Willis: was hoping that wasn't it. Had no problem using normal ubuntu :\00:33
hitsujiTMOumar343: ok, i'm definately calling troll now. i'm out.00:33
Dr_WillissisterFister:  what do you mean normal ubuntu?00:33
umar343the scroll key on touch pad does not work at times also.00:33
umar343inspite of removing apt,it is still present.00:34
sisterFisterDr_Willis: i had ubuntu 12.04 installed before and never encountered this issue. Now i've just installed xubuntu00:34
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Dr_WillissisterFister:  so this is a clean install that has never booted to the desktop?00:35
sisterFisterDr_Willis: correct.00:35
Dr_WillissisterFister:  whats the video card/chipset?00:35
* Dr_Willis gets ready to run away it its optimus based.. ;P00:36
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: can you login and install pastebinit and run: cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit     and link us the result00:36
Dr_Willis /var/log/   ;)00:37
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: sorry:  cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit00:37
Dr_Willisheh heh.., cat in the hat.. in a vat went splat00:37
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: sorry:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit00:37
hitsujiTMOok, it's right that time00:37
sisterFisterno...it's such a long output and on a laptop that has no gui lol00:38
sisterFistercan't i grep the lines you need?00:38
Dr_Willisa real cli guru uses the tab key  so much..  they rarely need to spell everything00:38
Dr_Willispastebinit is a cli tool to post things to a pastebin site sisterFister  - no need for a gui00:38
sisterFisteroh00:39
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit00:39
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: that will produce a single url for us00:39
sisterFisterhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/633319700:39
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: seems it does not like you're graphics card.00:41
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: time to  install lubuntu?00:41
Dr_Willisthey really need to put pastebinit installed by default. ;)00:41
sisterFisterpastebinit was installed by default00:42
Dr_WillissisterFister:  if the gfx drives are the issue.. the desktop wont matter00:42
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: you'll probably have the same problem ... what is the exact chipset you have?00:42
sisterFisternever had this issue with Ubuntu 12.0400:42
Dr_Willispastebinit is not installed by defatult as far as ive seen.00:42
sisterFisterDr_Willis: I didn't have to install pastebinit to use it00:42
hitsujiTMODr_Willis: maybe its installed on xubuntu00:42
Dr_Willismight be.   i got my 'install-my-stuff scripts' :0 that i always use to pull in things00:43
gdos*HELP* i find my self having to type 'sudo alsa force-reload' every time i login, either pulse audio and or alsa modules are not loading at boot up or when i log in or when they are supposed to be. how can i fix this?00:45
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: what's the output of: lspci | grep VGA00:45
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sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333222/00:46
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Dr_Willisgdos:  try putting the command in /etc/rc.local      as a dirty quick fix perhaps.00:47
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gdosDr_Willis: 'sudo alsa force-reload' or 'alsa force-reload' ?00:47
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Dr_Willisgdos:  try one, or the other, or both..00:48
Dr_Willisgdos:  rc.local runs as root. so no need for sudo in rc.local00:48
gdosok. somehow my sound system crashed (using xubuntu 12.04.3) and having a heck of a time keeping it loaded. even tried 'sudo apt-get purge --reinstall pulseaudio' and now i lost my volume control in xubuntu.00:49
gdoslet me try that first.00:49
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: looks like the radeondriver or fglrx isn't recognising the card at all. you prob need newer drivers for that card00:50
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: it's a 7000 series card right?00:51
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: don't know it's the one that came with the laptop.00:51
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: brand new laptop?00:51
sisterFisterit's about 1-2 years old00:51
YaMoonSunWhy is it that xfburn doesn't burn in a codec readable my most cd players?00:52
Luigi2012SM64DSHey, can someone help me? I have a problem with a lost+found folder00:52
bodhi_zazenlost+found how?00:52
sisterFisterit's about 1-2 years old hitsujiTMO00:52
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: what exact version of xubuntu are you trying to run?00:52
bodhi_zazenproblems with lost+found usually indicated a larger problem, such as a failing hard drive00:52
Luigi2012SM64DSWell, I am trying to build a cache.img using make_ext4fs00:52
Luigi2012SM64DSbut whenever i do it an extra folder called lost+found is created00:53
Luigi2012SM64DSin the ache.img00:53
Luigi2012SM64DSso it messed up00:53
Luigi2012SM64DS*messes00:53
bodhi_zazenthat is normal, to have an empty lost+found00:53
hitsujiTMOLuigi2012SM64DS: thats part of the filesystem00:53
Luigi2012SM64DSyes, but how can i stop ths from hapening?00:53
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: 12.04.3-desktop-amd6400:53
hitsujiTMOLuigi2012SM64DS: you cant00:54
Luigi2012SM64DSdang it00:54
bodhi_zazenLuigi2012SM64DS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2115/whats-lostfound-and-where-did-it-come-from00:54
hitsujiTMOLuigi2012SM64DS: it's not an actual folder ... is part of the filesystem00:54
bodhi_zazenhttp://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html00:54
Luigi2012SM64DSBefore I was able to make cache.img's using ubuntu with no problem00:55
Dr_Williswhat is cache.img supposed to be for?00:55
Luigi2012SM64DSFor Samsung Galaxy tab00:55
Luigi2012SM64DSim making a new root.00:55
bodhi_zazenit is an actual directory hitsujiTMO , used by fsck00:55
Dr_Willislost+found is normally made when the filesystems get fscked.00:55
Dr_Willisyou can delete the directory if you want00:55
YaMoonSunIs there a way to configure XFburn to burn media that can be played back on a regular cd player?00:55
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: i'd say you'd have to go for 13.10 to get it running. ubuntu 13.04 didn't even have propper support for your gfx00:55
bodhi_zazenit is normal Luigi2012SM64DS , "ignore" it00:55
Luigi2012SM64DSyes, but this directory is created whenever i make the cache.img.00:56
Dr_WillisYaMoonSun:   the buttons i see here in xfvurn says its playable in a normal cd player.. its always worked in my cd players00:56
bodhi_zazenYaMoonSun: yea, you convert the say mp3 to a .wav00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSi delete it from the folder00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSi build cache00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSand poof00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSiut appears in00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSit*00:56
FloodBot1Luigi2012SM64DS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:56
bodhi_zazenLuigi2012SM64DS: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html00:56
Dr_Willisthe tools making the cache are createing it i imagine Luigi2012SM64DS00:56
Luigi2012SM64DSHow is that possible if I have done this before with no problems?00:56
Dr_Willisi dont see why an empty directory would hurt anything00:56
YaMoonSunWell, it's a .wav after it's been converted, but it's taking Audacious ages to detect all the newly burned song and my CD players refuses to detect them at all.00:57
Luigi2012SM64DSEh, maybe i'm just crazy, ill try it out and see if it works. I just had problems before.l00:57
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chsadoshey guys, how can I encrypt my home folder after the fact (ie during install i opted out to do so) and also is LUKS apart of ubuntu natively?  Does it allow for full disk encryption like truecrypt?00:58
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YaMoonSunCD took 2 minutes to burn, and it's been nearly 10 minutes and the same computer that burned it has yet to detect the files on disc.00:59
YaMoonSunWhat do?00:59
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: xubuntu has 13.10?00:59
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: http://xubuntu.org/news/saucy-salamander-final/00:59
bodhi_zazenchsados: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostInstallationEncryption00:59
chsadosty bodhi_zazen00:59
bodhi_zazenbasically, recovery mode then "ecryptfs-migrate-home --user you"01:00
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: was that the correct link?01:00
bodhi_zazenback up any data first "just in case"01:00
SquarismHey.. when using CCSM.. as configuration is tedious i thought it would be a sane idea to export the configuration. Theres this choice to "include/exclude" defaults when doing that. But loading a configuarton wo defaults seems totally dangerous01:00
bodhi_zazenencryuption makes data recovery difficult to impossible01:00
hitsujiTMOhitsujiTMO: the actual downlaod page: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/01:00
Squarismis there some good scheme for this01:00
hitsujiTMOSquarism: what version of ubuntu are you using?01:01
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: ty01:01
SquarismhitsujiTMO, 12.04 i think01:03
Squarismgood ubuntu behaving like a crack addict now01:04
hitsujiTMOSquarism: i presume when it says "export" without defaults ... the import will merge it with your current config01:04
SquarismhitsujiTMO, yeah.. that was my idea too01:05
hitsujiTMOSquarism: just be careful what you do play with, as it can easily upset unity01:05
bodhi_zazenSquarism: no way, tweak away, but use a test account =)01:06
stianhjanyone try out btsync? two pretty much identical machines, web gui won't show on one of them (i enter username and password and it's just blank)01:06
hitsujiTMOWelles_Lemuelson: please refrain from advertising and spamming users of this channel01:07
SquarismhitsujiTMO, I just feel its VERY frustrating that most keybindings in ubuntu are not configurable wo ccsm. Further more.. the designers of unity/ubuntu seem to think people are using their computers to run an OS on vs and OS to run programs with.. ie ALL damn keykombinations are occupied by the OS making software that relies on hotkeys near unusable01:07
SquarismPLUS.. ubuntu/unity devs say CCSM "not supported"01:08
bodhi_zazenlol Squarism - use k/x/lubuntu or gnome =)01:08
phyphorSorry to jump straight in and ask an annoying question - but has anyone got the time to help me with installing Ubuntu as a 2nd (dual boot) os on a desktop with pre-installed Win 8 (asus mobo if it matters)01:08
Dr_WillisCCSM will be getting phased out in the next few reeases as will compiz01:08
phyphor(I've read most of the pages I've found, but they seem to not be workign for me)01:08
stianhjphyphor: just ask your question and maybe someone can help you01:09
bodhi_zazenphyphor: state what you tried and what problem you had01:09
hitsujiTMOSquarism: yes ... its a pita. once mir is up and running they will be looking to do away with compiz and all those effects will be handled differently.01:09
phyphorTrying to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, whichi I think I need to for Win 8 compatibility, I boot the dvd in UEFI mode01:09
Squarismmir?01:09
phyphorget teh text menu, but no options work01:09
phyphorIf I boot the DVD as non-uefi then I don't htink it installs in UEFI mode01:10
SquarismhitsujiTMO, what is mir?01:10
thiebaude!mir01:10
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir01:10
bodhi_zazendid it boot to a black screen phyphor ?01:10
phyphorwhich time?01:10
Squarismoh, i thought "X window server" was removed by the switch to Unity01:11
hitsujiTMOphyphor: you must boot in uefi mode in order to install the boot loader. can you try adding the nomodeset kernel parameter01:12
bodhi_zazenSquarism: for better or worse, gnome2 and compiz are depreciated. While some tools such as ccsm may still work , anticipate more problems over time. Many users have had similar observations with Unity / Gnome 3, some use various other DE01:12
phyphorIf I boot off the DVD in UEFI mode it gives me the plain text menu, but none of the options work.01:12
phyphorok01:12
phyphortrying again - boting off DVD in UEFI mode. I get the GNU GRUB text menu01:12
luckybunnyI'm having trouble getting an update through update-manager. I'm wondering if anyone can help01:13
Squarismbodhi_zazen, my plan would be to only use it for keybindings01:13
phyphorhitsujiTMO: so drop to the install option, press e to edit, right?01:13
yeyemanwow I'm elidgeble for a custom google url what a privilige01:13
luckybunnyI've used Synaptic to look into it. Apparently the package conflicts with itself01:13
gdosDr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error01:13
luckybunnyor rather the earlier version01:13
hitsujiTMOphyphor: yes ... e to edit and after "quiet splash" add nomodeset01:13
esdeOk, I've been working at this for a bit now trying not to bug and ask questions.. but I cannot seem to get a persistent usb stick to boot in the machine im working with01:13
Dr_Willisgdos:  i know very little about sound trouble shooting01:13
esdeI keep getting missing operating system01:13
luckybunnyesde: have you tried configuring the BIOS to look for a USB device insteda of the hard drive?01:14
phyphorhitsujiTMO: then F10 to boot01:14
hitsujiTMOphyphor: yes01:14
bodhi_zazenSquarism: you might like http://askubuntu.com/questions/247331/how-do-i-remove-customize-unity-keyboard-shortcuts01:14
esdeThere is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB01:14
phyphorBooting a command list.01:14
bodhi_zazenI have not looked, but you can remove key bindings and re-define them01:15
phyphorerror: failure readinfg sector 0x6c00 from 'fd0'01:15
phyphorerror: you need to load the kernel first01:15
phyphorI can't get past that in UEFI mode01:15
bodhi_zazenphyphor: what version of Ubuntu ?01:16
phyphorI'm not sure if it's a UEFI (bios) setting I need to change01:16
phyphorbodhi_zazen: 13.1001:16
hitsujiTMOphyphor: can you do a checksum on the iso.01:16
Squarismbodhi_zazen, it relies on ccsm too?01:16
bodhi_zazenouch, you might have to fall back to 12.04, uefi can be a problem on some laptops01:16
esdeluckybunny,  There is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB01:16
bodhi_zazenSquarism: not to remove key bindings, and I bet you can write your own (not sure) without ccsm01:17
phyphorhitsujiTMO: not from that screen - check disk for defects gives the same error01:17
hitsujiTMOesde: looks like its not seeing the usb as a bootable device... how did you make it?01:17
hitsujiTMOphyphor: can you do it in windows01:17
bodhi_zazenI switched to an alternate DE ;)01:17
phyphorI had the same problem with 2 differetnt download and burns01:17
phyphorhrm01:17
esdegparted shows it with boot flag enable hitsujiTMO01:17
phyphorhitsujiTMO: if you tell me how when I get back in abotu 15 minutes - sorry, got to go deal with a pressing matter01:17
bodhi_zazenphyphor: I have seen 2 laptops like that, uefi sometimes has bugs01:17
shasfhow do i find the apt-get (name) of an app01:18
Squarismbodhi_zazen, thanx for the info!01:18
hitsujiTMOesde: yes but it might not have an mbr installed01:18
esdeshasf, apt-cache search01:18
esdeahh01:18
esdety hitsujiTMO01:18
shasfapt-cache search01:18
bodhi_zazenSquarism: I hope it at least gives you some more options is all, hope you can find something you like01:18
hitsujiTMOphyphor: np01:18
hitsujiTMOesde: what tool did you use to create it01:18
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craigbass1976anyone been able to place acestreams online?  I'm trying to watch the world series, and the acestream I found looks to be faster than the flash one I'm currently watching.  No love with these directions (adding a repo and apt-get install the -all option)01:20
profligacycraigbass1976: Red Sox just scored again.01:24
profligacycraigbass1976: 4-001:24
esdeI tried the usb startup disk tool first, then i tried unetbootin. I just opened gparted and tried setting the boot type to linux and got this error http://pastebin.com/8KBXs4r5 hitsujiTMO01:24
phyphorsomeone was messing with my motorcycle- sorry01:25
phyphorhitsujiTMO: so, boot into windows and ... ??01:25
craigbass1976profligacy, I know.  Like I said, we're watching the flash version (@200kbps) but I'm hoping the acestream is better quality.  Watching the Bruins online is difficult -- can't see the puck on crappy streams.01:25
profligacycraigbass1976: Maybe it's a sign from God. He may want you to stop watching hockey altogether.01:26
profligacyWow, the Cardinals really such.01:26
hitsujiTMOphyphor: can you open command line and type: FCIV        not sure if the tool is installed by default01:27
bodhi_zazenphyphor: just a cautionary note ... I installed Ubuntu on a uefi system with uefi disabled, and after windows would not boot, had to re-install . If the defaults are not working there is a problem that may not have a simple answer and you might break windows ;)01:27
craigbass1976profligacy, don't you blaspheme.  Don't you BLASPHEME in HE-AH!01:27
hitsujiTMOesde: can you open gparted. delete the partition and create a new fat32 partition. don't mark it bootable or anything. then use netbootin01:28
phyphorhitsujiTMO: no fciv on this version of windows01:28
phyphorbodhi_zazen: So far Windows is able to boot01:28
thiebaudebodhi_zazen, can ubuntu only be installed on it?01:28
thiebaudei might be getting a new laptop soon01:28
phyphorI have specifically not been ,essing with the efi partitiomn01:28
bodhi_zazenthiebaude: One laptop I coul ddual boot, windows with uefi enabled, ubuntu (or fedora) with uefi disabled01:29
thiebaudebodhi_zazen, but what if i wanted to just install ubuntu?01:29
yiusshow do i find my vnc host display name01:30
bodhi_zazenOne laptop I broke bad, could boot linux without uefi, but was never able to recover windows, uefi broke and I did not have the windows recovery disk01:30
hitsujiTMOphyphor: try this tool then http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe and install, then right click the iso and check the md5 ... compare it with the hash on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes01:30
thiebaudeok thanks bodhi_zazen01:30
xdcI dont know01:30
bodhi_zazenthiebaude: boot ubuntu (or other) with uefi enabled, if it boots you shoulb be good to go01:30
xdcI think Linux Mint is the right choise!01:30
thiebaudeok cool, just wated to know01:30
thiebaudewanted01:30
bodhi_zazenOne laptop windows would boot with uefi disabled ("legacy" boot I think the bios called it) so I just left it disabled01:31
hitsujiTMObodhi_zazen: was it a non uefi windows install?01:31
bodhi_zazenand that sums up my experience with uefi01:31
bodhi_zazenhitsujiTMO: it booted both uefi and legacy, it was an early windows 7 release01:32
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I've just grabbed fciv anyway01:32
bodhi_zazenall I am really saying, ubuntu *should* boot and install with uefi enabled, if it does not, take care as you (or I) have broken windows by disabling uefi01:33
thiebaudebodhi_zazen, would be np for me since no other os besides ubuntu would be installed on it01:34
thiebaudewiped clean01:34
bodhi_zazenthiebaude: well, either buy with no os, or linux pre-installed then ;)01:35
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I don't have the ISO any more, just the burnt disc01:35
bodhi_zazenhttp://laclinux.com/en/Start01:35
phyphorOh, wait, I have it on the other computer I burnt it on!01:35
thiebaudebodhi_zazen, i could just tell the store i dont agree with the ms terms of service,lol01:35
thiebaude:)01:35
bodhi_zazenyep, but you still pay for windows that way01:36
profligacycraigbass1976: There's another one.01:36
profligacyWhat a horrible series...01:36
thiebaude^^01:36
thiebaudeprofligacy, i turned it off01:36
hitsujiTMOphyphor: just run fciv -md5 on the iso file. and match it correct entry in the hash list i gave you earlier01:37
churlyAnyone know how to get the previously focused x window?  Ive used wmctrl and xdotool but am unsure if they can do this.01:38
DrGrovHello. Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit on a new Acer TC-105. Did the partioning as intended. Not though I am not able to boot up the computer, can not get into BIOS either. Any thoughts what might have gone wrong?01:39
phyphorhitsujiTMO: the iso file I downloaded matches the hash01:39
phyphorDownloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso) = 21ec41563ff34da27d4a0b56f2680c4f01:39
phyphorit was verified as burning correctlty01:40
profligacythiebaude: Do you follow basketball?01:40
KillSnookiDrGrove, check your BIOS - do you have it in uefi and secureboot on or off?01:40
thiebaudenot that much anymore01:40
thiebaudeprofligacy,01:40
hitsujiTMOphyphor: can you try to burn it again at a slower speed01:40
DrGrovKillSnooki: The problem is that I can not get into BIOS even :/ I can hopefully recover my Windows that I did a recovery on and try to install again.01:41
phyphorI burnt it at the slowest speed and verified after burning01:41
grkbloodwhy when I add 0.0.0.0 www.google.com into /etc/hosts and then browse to google.com it loads fine? This should not be loading.01:41
KillSnookiDrGrov, did the laptop come with windows 8 installed on it?01:41
hitsujiTMOphyphor: ok. in you're bios. enable legacy usb support (or disable it if it's already enbabled)01:41
TalkingMuffingrkblood: www.google.com is not the same as google.com for /etc/hosts01:41
DrGrovKillSnooki: It did come with Windows 8 installed on it. But definitely not my cup of tea.01:42
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grkbloodTalkingMuffin, I tried both01:42
KillSnookiBoot it up and try the F2 button instead of del to get into the uefi bios01:42
hitsujiTMOphyphor: then try boot the cd again01:42
Rajathello if I make a wifi on ubuntu, I cannot see it on my android. Whats the solution?01:42
dv9700is there anyway to disable search suggestions for the newest version of chrome? I've googled it extensively and everything I find it for old versions, or the buttons they reference just aren't there01:42
grkbloodTalkingMuffin, I also tried 0.0.0.0*.google.com01:42
esdehitsujiTMO, unetbootin has since completed and is closed. im trying to safely remove the drive but i keep getting an error that one or more partitions on the drive are busy01:42
esdegot it01:43
hitsujiTMOesde: unmount if from command line01:43
phyphorhitsujiTMO: usb support?01:43
DrGrovKillSnooki: Okay, I will try F2 then instead. Did nothing.01:43
hitsujiTMOphyphor: yes ... changes how your keyboard and touchpad are detected. and a fe other things depending on manufacturer01:44
esdeMissing Operating System :(01:44
roviangood night01:44
roviancan someone help me01:45
KillSnookiDrGrov, when you shut down your windows 8 for the last time did you just turn the computer off or did you do a full shutdown?01:45
rovianI'm having trouble with virtual host ubuntu 13 someone had a problem like this01:45
esdeI formatted to fat32 in gparted, opened unetnootin, chose ubuntu 12.04 desktop iso, selected usb device, set persistent storage to 512MB, let unetbootin do it's thing, unmounted the drive, detached the drive, tried booting to the drive, and got the same error hitsujiTMO01:45
phyphordone, and now trying to boot off dvd again01:45
DrGrovKillSnooki: Could I still reinstall Ubuntu 13.10 and get it right the partioning? I did a full shutdown. It installed updates for me and then it restarted and then I did a shutdown.01:46
phyphorsame error01:46
DrGrovFull shutdown that is, did not know of any other way than the shutdown from the menu.01:46
hitsujiTMOesde: and you've verified the iso hash?01:46
esdeI will now01:46
hitsujiTMOphyphor: can you remind me what the error is again. just hanging at the grub screen?01:47
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: using 13.10 xubuntu works :D01:48
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: sweet!01:48
gdoswhen i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error01:49
sisterFisterhitsujiTMO: yes! Ty for your help01:49
esdehitsujiTMO, yes md5sums match01:49
hitsujiTMOsisterFister: np.01:49
hitsujiTMOesde: is the usb devise showing up in the quick boot menu?01:50
phyphorhitsujiTMO: If I boot off DVD with the DVD drive in UEFI mode I get the UEFI (plain text) boot menu, but no options work. If I try to instal I get a failure reading a sector and am told to install the kernel first01:50
esdeYes, and I can see it in the bios01:50
phyphorIf I boot off DVD in plain SATA (no UEFI) mode then I don't know how to make Ubuntu bootable01:51
DrGrovKillSnooki: I am apparently stuck with this problem until I figure out how to get Windows back and redo the install of Ubuntu?01:51
Rajathello my android device cannot detect wifi when i make it through ubuntu.plz help/01:51
phyphorhuh, so now I'm in this channel I'm getting random spam - wewt01:52
Rajatthough making ad-hoc on windows does detect, how?01:52
phyphorWelles_Lemuelson: quit the spam, ok?01:52
Dr_Willisphyphor:  more pokemon spam?01:53
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phyphorRajat: why are you telling me to shut up. now?01:54
hitsujiTMOphyphor: looks like there's a compatibility issue with your uefi boot and either grub or the kernel them. if you boot in non uefi mode it it will not allow you to install a uefi setup and a non uefi setup most likely will break you're windows. if you wanted to try (and are able): you could try installing windows again as a non uefi install and then you should safely be able to install ubuntu01:54
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I don't have the installation media, alas01:54
hitsujiTMOphyphor: the other option would be to try ubuntu in a virtual machine01:55
phyphorI am wondering if it's one of the other boot options, but there are oh so many01:55
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I might have to, yes01:55
phyphorI was hoping to avoid another abstraction layer, but needs must I suppose01:55
phyphorthanks for your time and attention :)01:55
esdehitsujiTMO, im trying a different usb now01:56
hitsujiTMOphyphor: np at all01:56
Romancedont you guys ubuntu dev need to take a look at the tool apt-proz , i use it, it speeds up my update/upgrade process01:57
jonLarleywould replacing windows with ubuntu, i.e. wiping my entire drive and installing ubuntu, make it run considerably faster?01:57
wilee-nileeapt-fast here01:57
hitsujiTMOjonLarley: no01:58
jonLarleyhitsujiTMO: dual booting or not it has no affect on how fast ubuntu works?01:58
Romancewilee-nilee: its using aria2 right, the aria2 resume is so bad, i tried it with uget, many of the files were completed before they were really done01:59
msdwany one knows where can i get ubuntu mobile01:59
wilee-nileeRomance, I'm not seeing a ppa with it above oneric02:00
hitsujiTMOjonLarley: there's minimal effect. there can me a few small boosts from things like locating ubuntu on a part of the hdd thats fastest, but there would be no real noticable difference02:00
jonLarleyhitsujiTMO:  and there are no significant advantages outside of speed to replace your windows7 with ubuntu?02:01
hitsujiTMOmsdw: there is not ubuntu mobile. unbuntu touch is probably what you're reffering to: #ubuntu-touch02:01
msdwthe phone version02:01
Romancewilee-nilee: need to add its ppa ppa:tahutek-team/prozilla02:01
wilee-nileeyeah found it thanks02:01
hitsujiTMOjonLarley: no, there's no advantage, except maybe not seeing the grub boot option on the screen on inital boot. saves you like .... 3 seconds02:02
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hitsujiTMOmsdw: #ubuntu-touch as i said. go there02:02
Dr_Willisand try to not be dissapointed with ubuntu touch at this time. :)02:03
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msdwok thanks02:03
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esdei wish i wouldve tested the usb in another machine sooner...... it boots on another machine, looks like im troubleshooting a hardware issue :/02:04
msdwwhy disapointed02:04
perohow can i remove one specific unity web app? (reddit) apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit says that i don't have it, but i still see it in dash as well the mail-sys-tray-thing02:04
Dr_Willisesde:  i have a problem desktop box. it refused to boot any usb;s  i made.. even tho they all booted find in 4+ other machines i have.. i had to use dvd to install on that box.02:05
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Dr_Willispero:  theres a webapps directory in the users home   .config/*  somewhere i recall seeing the oher day. it maybe cached in there02:05
hitsujiTMOesde: go through every bios option. sometimes its an obscure one that causes the problem02:06
wilee-nileebudget casket hehe02:06
peroif only nautilus didn't suck so much it'd be a lot easier to find it02:07
mheinkehows it goin?!02:09
hitsujiTMOpero: web apps aren't a installed package... they're the offline cache of a page. if you can't find it in that folder check firefox settings02:09
gdosDr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error02:09
gdosoops.02:09
Supermetalfreakwowoo02:11
perohitsujiTMO: i'm leveraging chromium for the webapps, and where? all i can find is the overarching unity web apps extensions, but i don't want to kill all of them - just one02:11
fmedinahello02:13
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I'm going to try one more thing, but I'd like to verify my understanding, or, more accurately, learn nw02:13
hitsujiTMOpero: afaik any webapp on unity must run thru firefox (hence the dependancies on firefox)02:13
phyphorI am thiknign of instlaling Ubuntu in non legacy (non UEFI) mode then converting it02:14
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hitsujiTMOpero: wait no i'm wrong on that02:14
greenhornlinuxI had a quick question about ppas (still trying to wrap my head around them). I know how to easily install them but I wanted to learn more on how to manage them. For example, if things went poorly and I wanted the older software what is the best way to handle this? Uninstall the new version of software, remove the ppa, then install the software from the unbuntu repositories? Is this the best approach to "roll" back to older02:14
greenhornlinux software?02:14
perohitsujiTMO: that's incorrect, it's either firefox or chromium - that's actually why chromium is still held back on 29 on the repo's (because of the downstream integration with the webapps)02:14
bazhanggreenhornlinux, ppa-purge02:15
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge | greenhornlinux at your own risk02:15
ubottugreenhornlinux at your own risk: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html02:15
hitsujiTMOphyphor: there's a good chance trying that will damage you're windows install.02:15
phyphorI wondered tha,t but if I don't tell it to touch the EFI partition it should be ok, right?02:15
wilee-nileegreenhornlinux, most any install in the cli will give you a list of what is installed.02:15
wilee-nileebeing installed that is02:16
greenhornlinuxokay thanks, if I didn't use ppa-purge would the above method I outlined do the same thing?02:16
wilee-nileegreenhornlinux, if you can perfectly uninstall the new hardware and make sure the replaced was back sure.02:17
wilee-nileegreenhornlinux, ppa-purge would be easier most likely, messing with ppa's has it's liabilities.02:18
wilee-nileephyphor, You have the windows backed up yet?02:19
wilee-nileeor some plan incase bricked02:20
greenhornlinuxwilee-nilee: hm... yeah, that is why I was trying to figure out the best way to manage them. I haven't had issues as of yet, just wanted to understand it a bit better. I suppose if I attempted manually I would have to make sure any of the newer libraries and such were purged too as to not cause conflict with the older software. I will have to read up more on ppa-purge but I am assuming all of that is taken care of for you.02:20
mheinkewilee-nilee, are you in here every night?02:20
mheinke:)02:20
wilee-nileepretty much02:20
phyphorwilee-nilee: I have my documents, etc on a separate partition02:21
phyphorI guess I could dd the whole drive to a spare drive02:21
wilee-nileeand day, I have little other responsibilities and very little here. ;)02:21
hitsujiTMOphyphor: well, the problem is is that it needs to create a bios boot partition, and will not be efi aware at that time so may mess up.02:21
wilee-nileephyphor, I would not dd it it has an imager built in for at least one backup up to the pro version, clonezilla will do it repeatedly.02:22
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I have the space to set up a bios boot partition02:22
phyphorif that's sensible02:22
wilee-nileedd can destroy the original at times depending on how you use it02:22
mheinkewilee-nilee, awesome! im trying to insert myself into the ubuntu community, im a php (L.A.M.P) developer02:22
phyphorwilee-nilee: you need to get in and out the right way round :)02:22
wilee-nileemheinke, I'm on the cursory, not a developr or IT person.02:23
PCLinuxCan someone here refer me to a book and support for the Linux (Ubuntu) library? I have learned a lot on here, but I also want to learn "Hands-on" as I would like to use this OS and leave Windows in the closet.02:23
hitsujiTMOphyphor: i'm unsure what the restrictions are on it. have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition02:23
Dr_Willis!manual | PCLinux02:24
ubottuPCLinux: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/02:24
mheinkePCLinux, linux bible02:24
hitsujiTMOphyphor: seems the best to do is to create the bios boot partition manually before running the install.02:24
Dr_WillisPCLinux:  any printed book on 'ubuntu' might be a bit out of date. pay attention to the release. and dont expect a 'general' book to cover everything. ;)02:25
mheinkePCLinux, also..the Linux from scratch manual02:25
hitsujiTMOphyphor: but do try to dd the drive first02:25
wilee-nileeIf I really wanted its skills I would grey hat and make some money from business or government by employment02:25
Dr_WillisPCLinux:  for real physical books. watch the bargin bins at the bookstores. :) anything by the Oreaily guys is worth checking out02:25
mheinkePCLinux, the two things i shared will: 1) give you tons of knowledge into linux, 2) give you the nessessary skills to run ANY linux system (and even roll your own)02:26
PCLinuxI appreciate that, Dr._Willis and also do these books cover things like, Troubleshooting and Diagnostics?02:26
mheinkebut you have to be a student..and really take some time. linux isnt learned in a day :P02:27
Romancehow do i install gnome shell extension? ubuntu 12.04 here, gnome-shell-extensions : Depends: gnome-shell (>= 3.5) but 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed02:27
wilee-nileeRomance, go to their website is easiest02:27
peroi had to remove the associated .desktop file from ~/.local/applications02:28
wilee-nileeRomance, https://extensions.gnome.org/02:28
Dr_WillisRomance:  if you want the most up to date gnome-shell experience - you may want to use ubuntu 13.1002:28
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wilee-nileesome are up to some are not in all gnome 3 versions02:29
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wilee-nileesome work higher not lower and the oppisiste02:29
wilee-nileeopposite*02:29
donta12344evening folks, anyone around?02:31
GerowenThere's been a few people in here over the past few minutes.02:31
donta12344its good to see people still using good old irc these days02:32
GerowenI like it.  It's a quick and easy way to actually participate in the communities you're interested in.02:33
KillSnookiI haven't used IRC in about 10 years donta :) It's what desperation has made me resort too. Last time I was on IRC was when I was an IRCop on DALnet. Long long long time ago02:33
donta12344hmm, kind of ironic, thats pretty much when i am on it, ussualy get your conunndrum answered sooner or later02:34
mheinkedonta12344, i love IRC! im in the drupal channels all day every day, and lately..im here as well most nights (PDT)02:34
esdehitsujiTMO, it's been a VERY long day. I just _assumed_ there werent any usb devices attached. I was wrong.02:34
hitsujiTMOo.O esde ? booting the wrong device?02:35
GerowenKillSnooki: Your name reminds me of a video I saw shared on Facebook where Snooki said lobsters were the only animals that are alive when you kill them.02:35
KillSnookiSound's about right for her :) Still not as bad as Jessica Simpson though02:36
mheinkeGerowen, hmmm lobster..sounds yummy02:36
esdeYep hitsujiTMO. rookie mistake, i was booting to a usb device i didn't know was connected.02:37
esde :|02:37
Dr_Willisguess they never ate oysters02:37
donta12344my wonder is this, i have an old dell laptop that despite being an old dell and having been through its share of beatings, still seems to run like a clock. i want to convert it into a server for minecraft and some other games. now, i currently have xubuntu 13.4 installed and running, but i have messed around with the laptop quite a bit and the poor os is running like sh**. can i restore it to02:37
donta12344fresh install goodness without reinstalling? its all updated and my disk is shot, i am just wondering if i can get a fresh os feel without actually formatting it again.02:37
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hitsujiTMOesde: well, at least you should be able to fly from here02:38
Dr_Willisdonta12344:  totally depends on what you messed around with. ;)02:38
CrazyZurferhi, I've installed equalizer for  pulseaudio, I used a preset that I had on windows and it sounds much better, the problem is that I hear much noise with the music, noise like clicks and ticks, pretty weird :S02:38
Dr_Willisdonta12344:  haveing /home/ on its own partion makes clean reinstalls much easier02:38
donta12344that is true, im half ways convinced to just do a full format and rework my partitions.... would it be a good idea to run the os off of a flashdrive to allow for greater speeds?02:40
hitsujiTMOarg! why does thou hate me so much! ... turned on subpixel rendering to find one monitor is rgb and the other bgr ... grr02:40
Dr_Willisflash drive faster then an internal hd?  id test that theory first. ;)02:40
wilee-nileeon a usb 1 no less I would bet02:41
donta12344mm right i havent got the usb capacity to be faster, my bad :P02:41
Dr_Willisdont put swap in a ramdisk either? ;)02:41
hitsujiTMOWelles_Lemuelson: again i ask, please refrain from spamming people in this channel02:41
donta12344ill just bite it and clean setup for its final stage of life02:41
hitsujiTMOWelles_Lemuelson: also, please refrain from PMing abuse02:42
CrazyZurferdonta12344, you mean installing ubuntu in a pendrive?02:42
wilee-nileehitsujiTMO, report them to freenode or ubuntu-ops02:42
donta12344i just want to use the laptop for a server i can run games off my lan, and yeah, i thought if the server files are stored and running from the hdd and the os off of a flash drive i might be able to gain some system speed?02:43
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Dr_Willisdonta12344:  ar you that limited in hd space?02:44
donta12344i have used linux for a wile, but my understanding is still so-so, and i have never seemed to have luck working with servers and networking >..<02:44
Dr_Willisplug the network cable in... start networking. ;)02:44
Dr_Willisa desktop install can work as a server also02:44
donta12344enough space, was just wondering if i could gain anything by it02:45
CrazyZurferdonta12344, as I know, USB drives are WAY slower02:46
Dr_Willissave the usb for imporntant things.. ;)02:46
Dr_Willislike err.. chargeing your phone02:46
jmgkhi02:46
donta12344kk, then i shall just reinstall and start fresh with my tinkering02:47
KromazI just read online that Thunderbird 24.1.0 was released for all platforms. When will we see it in the update manager??02:47
Dr_Willis!latest | Kromaz02:47
ubottuKromaz: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.02:47
Dr_Willislook for a ppa perhaps Kromaz02:47
wilee-nileeKromaz, I got FF a day early yesterday, I suspect tbird will be fast.02:48
Kromazokay will do thanks thats Dr_Willis02:49
garciancKromaz, I am waiting too. 13.10 broke the lightning calendar in tbird, 24.1 is supposed to fix that02:49
Kromazwilee-nilee I also received firefox 25 yesterday02:50
Br|aNits 100% legal its written on legal paper which makes it legal02:51
CrazyZurferis there a way to add an "execute as administrator" option in the context menu?02:51
Br|aNwoops wrong window02:51
Kromazgarcianc , you can get the older plugin to get lighting to work again02:51
wilee-nileegarcianc, Kromaz if you can't wait. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa02:52
garciancKromaz, Thanks! If the waiting takes too long, I might try that.  Thanks wilee-nilee02:52
wilee-nileeno porob02:53
wilee-nileeprob*02:53
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KromazHave anyone else noticed that with Thunderbird no notification for imap on gmail?02:54
hitsujiTMOdoes ubuntu one have a cli?02:56
CrazyZurfersolved my issues :P02:56
CrazyZurfer!yay02:56
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)02:56
KillSnookiHey just for clarification. Ubuntu uses partitions in what's called a gpt right? If I cannot see my windows partition for the life of me on the install would it be safe to say it's something with the gpt messing up?02:57
Kromazwhats the best file format for multi platforms?02:58
xmetaluh02:58
Guest60707hey guys can u help me installing vbadditions on ubuntu?02:59
hitsujiTMOKillSnooki: ubuntu can use gpt or mbr ... if you can't see the windows partition, then yeah something is really messed up... best to cancel and have a look at it with gparted02:59
Dr_Willis!vbox | Guest6070702:59
ubottuGuest60707: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox02:59
* xmetal agrees with hitsujiTMO , on that03:00
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KillSnookiOkay, so I am getting somewhere with this troubleshoot philosphy :) I ran gparted and it tells me that /dev/sda contains GPT signatures but does not have valid fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupt, etc03:00
phyphorhitsujiTMO: Bah, it won't install the bootloader/grub in legacy mode at all. Complete fialure. I think I'm going to,a s you sggested, resprt to a VM03:00
KillSnookiNow at this point I have no idea where to go03:01
KillSnookiCan someone kick Welles_Lemuelson please? That's the second spam03:01
hitsujiTMOphyphor: hopefully the vm will be less of a pain for you03:01
sparks56hello all => just entered     what is topic03:01
hitsujiTMOKillSnooki: report him on #ubuntu-op and #freenode03:02
Guest60707hitsujiTMO: where can i get Vboxadditions?03:02
phyphorhitsujiTMO: can't be much worse :)03:02
Dr_Willis!vbox | Guest60707 did you read the vbox guides yet?03:02
phyphorjust need to pick an appropraite vm management tool of choice03:02
ubottuGuest60707 did you read the vbox guides yet?: Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox03:02
hitsujiTMOGuest60707: no idea, don't use vbox03:02
Guest60707ah okok ty03:02
ObrienDaveGuest60707... at the Vbox website03:02
phyphortalking of, reminds me, Virtual box is better than VMware last time I tried03:03
sparks56what are you trying to accomplish with  Virtual Box   never used it myself03:03
hitsujiTMOsparks56: /say /topic for the topic. this is a support channel not a talk channel.03:04
ObrienDaveoh boy03:04
phyphorme? I can't install Ubuntu on this desktop because UEFI is being annoying. I like IDJC for internet DJ broacasting and I can't get rid of Windows because Steam03:04
Romancelol i messed with the gnome, i uninstalled the gnome shell (removed the noobslab ppa as well) and try to install it again but i got "gnome-shell : Depends: gnome-shell-common (= 3.4.1-0ubuntu2) but 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 is to be installed03:05
Dr_Willisbeen using he linux native steam client here ;)03:05
hitsujiTMORomance: sounds like you've been messing with some nasty ppa03:05
willie_hello.03:06
wilee-nileeRomance, 12.04 is funky with the shell, 3.4.1 in the repos is the best idea.03:06
RomancehitsujiTMO: the noobslab ppa, i followed exactly that website guide to install gnome extension shell under 12.04, no single step missed03:06
hitsujiTMORomance: did you install a ppa for 11.10?03:06
some1033hi03:06
Romancewilee-nilee: yes i removed the noobslab ppa and do update, but when i install gnome-shell, it gave me that error03:07
Dr_Willisgnome shell on 12.04 can be flakey i recall03:07
RomancehitsujiTMO: i dont know i followed exactly the guide from that website03:07
hitsujiTMORomance: put the ppa back in and use ppa purge03:07
wilee-nileeRomance, YOu did not run the purge?03:07
Dr_Willis!ppa-purge03:07
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html03:07
Romancei did purge with autoremove as well03:07
Romancethat --purge03:07
hitsujiTMORomance: looks like it was targeted for 11.10 -> 0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz003:07
Romanceye how do i fix this, im on recovery mode03:08
wilee-nileeRomance, ppa-purge not just purge03:08
willie_got a question concerning Ubuntu Studio, 13.10. It's  simple noob question03:08
Romancewillie_: surpisingly ppa-purge is not come by default so i need to install ppa-purge03:09
wilee-nileeRomance, Not the same, ppa-purge use sptitude and another to remove the installs and restore stock, generally.03:09
some1033hello,kelly,03:09
wilee-nileeaptitude*03:09
marlonhi03:10
marlonim new to this softwear03:10
wilee-nileewillie_, You aware of #ubuntustudio just in case?03:10
some1033hi,marmon03:10
marlonhi some103303:11
Guest60707guys shouldn't Vboxadditions be in aplications/system/terminal???03:11
willie_No. I just hopped on Xchat and it shot me overhere.03:11
willie_but I will go over there.03:11
wilee-nileeGuest60707, Installed from the vbox gui I believe03:11
Guest60707yea03:11
some1033i am too.marmon03:11
willie_Thanks for the directions. Enjoy the evening!03:11
Guest60707only thing i couldn't install yet was vboxadditions,can't  find it anywhere03:12
wilee-nileeGuest60707, file-preferences-extensions03:12
marloni dont know how to use this software03:12
wilee-nileeGuest60707, YOU add yourself to the vbox config?03:13
Guest60707think so03:13
some1033where are you from,marmon03:13
ObrienDaveGuest60707... run Vbox, then add the additions ISO as a drive to the IDE controller03:13
Dr_Willisvbox homepage - has a very noice manual on using vbox03:13
Dr_WillisGuest60707:  vbox addations - does not have a system/menu icon - since its  used by vbox. its not a stand alone app.03:14
ObrienDaveGuest60707... after creating the VM03:14
marlonAustralia03:14
Guest60707ahh...okok03:14
marloni wish you could play minecraft on here03:15
Dr_Willisirc minecraft? ;)03:15
* Dr_Willis runs from the creepers03:16
some1033can you speak chinese ,marmon03:16
marlonthey have it on windows03:16
Dr_Willismarlon:  have what on windows exactly?03:16
Romancewilee-nilee: ok i ppa-purge and its updated the list but looks like i already removed the ppa (with that --purge) , so try with apt-get install gnome-shell, still giving me that same error03:16
moppyminecraft is java and runs on linux03:16
hitsujiTMORomance: apt-get update03:17
hitsujiTMORomance: wait!03:17
Romanceoh sec03:17
Romancehuh03:17
marloni using virtualbox03:17
RomancehitsujiTMO:03:17
hitsujiTMOdid you use the ppa-purge tool or --purge?03:17
moppymarlon - install the java virtual machine (JVM) from the ubuntu software center, and minecraft will work just fine; it's the same as windows: install the JVM, then run minecraft03:18
Dr_Willismarlon:  you might want to be a bit more detailed in your statements.   we barely know what you are meaning03:18
wilee-nileeRomance, You would add the ppa back install the gnome shell then run the ppa-purge.03:18
phyphorhitsujiTMO: sorry, one more question, how much space does the base OS usually take up?03:20
wilee-nileeRomance, the ppa-purge need to see all the packages that should be there to run correctly basically.03:20
wilee-nileein a perfect world antway, lol03:21
wilee-nileeanyway*03:21
marlonim installing java 703:21
RomancehitsujiTMO: with purge, apt-get update and tried to install still give same error03:21
Romancewilee-nilee: huh need to add it back?03:22
hitsujiTMOphyphor: about 6gb + your swap file (swap is same as ram)   .... you should have a minimum of 10GB on top of that as free space (i'd recommend minimum of 20gb03:22
marlonim new03:22
wilee-nileeRomance, that would be the logical move, have you ever heard of aptitude, it uses it and another package app03:22
phyphorhitsujiTMO: even in a virtual environment?03:22
hitsujiTMORomance: you need to add it all back in ... then install the ppa-purge tool. then then ppa-purge.03:22
hitsujiTMOphyphor: yeah03:23
hitsujiTMOphyphor: should give it a 30gb drive minimum if you're going to use it a lot03:23
Romancewilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ah ok so i add the noobslab ppa again, install gnome-shell, and do a ppa-purge ?03:23
wilee-nileeRomance, Remember your question could you do this, I said yes if done perfectly, not really a option for most.03:23
phyphorit's not going to do much03:23
phyphorit's going to play music off the main system03:23
phyphorand stream it to teh woooorld03:24
marlonthis is ard03:24
hitsujiTMOphyphor: you can cut it down to 20gb then.03:24
marlon99hard03:25
phyphorgood plan03:25
phyphoron it now03:25
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:28
mheinkeevening03:28
marlon99hi03:28
mheinkenight03:28
garciancphyphor, you can make it 100gb and set it as dynamically allocated too03:30
Romancewilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ok now it installed the gnome shell for 11.10 , Setting up gnome-shell (3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0)03:32
Romanceso i just ppa-purge ?03:32
wilee-nileeRomance, waht release are you running?03:32
Romance12.0403:32
wilee-nileeRomance, what was the ppa you used?03:32
Romanceppa:noobslab/gnome03:33
Romancei think it takes from there03:33
wilee-nileeRomance, So you had used this in 11.10 and upgraded to 12.04 and decided to mess with it right?03:34
Romancewilee-nilee: no, this is a fresh install 12.0403:34
wilee-nileeRomance, That ppa has a 12.04 version, which did you load?03:34
Romancehttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html03:34
Romancei followed exactly from that site03:35
wilee-nileeRomance, Cool that should be the 12.04 version, so you have to ass the ppa-purge ppa I believe, here comes the bot03:35
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge03:35
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html03:35
marlon99im new to this software03:35
Romancewilee-nilee: what should i ppa-puge03:36
Romancepurge*03:36
wilee-nileeRomance, 12.04 uses a ppa for the purge I believe and the later releases it is in the ubuntu repos I believe.03:36
Romancehuh?03:37
Vicfredhi03:37
VicfredI have two files and I want to compare them to know the line numbers in where they differ, is there a program to do that? I need to compare the output of my program with an online judge's output03:37
Romancewilee-nilee: i dont get it03:37
hitsujiTMORomance: install ppa-purge03:37
RomancehitsujiTMO: i already had ppa-purge03:37
hitsujiTMOromance: sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome03:38
ObrienDaveRomance... sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome03:38
marlon99im watching a movie03:39
Romancesec03:39
linux_unix-10hello03:39
marlon99hi03:39
lotuspsychjemarlon99: plz keep this channel for support only, you can talk about movies in #ubuntu-offtopic mate03:40
linux_unix-10justasking, but, is there an irc channel for elementary os, an ubuntu distro?03:41
linux_unix-10*just asking03:41
Dr_Willis!asis03:41
Dr_Willis!alis03:41
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*03:41
hitsujiTMOlotuspsychje: yeah, seems nothing preserves file permissions :(03:41
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  their homepage may mention their irc channel also.03:42
hitsujiTMOlinux_unix-10: #elementary03:42
lotuspsychjehitsujiTMO: maybe we can ask here03:42
mheinke#elementaryos as well03:42
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  and its not an ubuntu disrto. ;) its based on ubuntu  12.04 last i looked however. :)03:42
Romancewhy does it say "dpkg: warning: downgrading gnome-shell-common from 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 to 3.4.1-0ubuntu2." , does it mean 11.10 got latest gnome compare to 12.04?03:42
linux_unix-10still based on ubuntu03:42
lotuspsychjeany alternative for dropbox that could preserve ubuntu file permissions?03:42
mheinkelinux_unix-10, join #elementaryos03:42
linux_unix-10thanks03:43
hitsujiTMOlotuspsychje: they all ignore permissions for windows compat ... even ubuntu one :(03:43
Dr_WillisRomance:  or that ppa had a newer version then whats the default in 12.0403:43
delinquentmeok soooo if after 20 minutes of non-use ... my screen dims ... to save power .... BUT when I use the brightness slider and nothing happens03:44
delinquentmewhat does this mean?03:44
RomanceDr_Willis: ah ok03:44
Romancetime to reboot lets see if it fixed this03:44
Kao_Yuunight03:45
wilee-nileeoh the fun of ppa's03:46
ObrienDavedon't ya just love it?03:46
wilee-nileeI rarely have problems but I keep package lists at times, and know how to use them in general.03:47
wilee-nileehehe and clones of the OS, jus in case03:48
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Romancewell it works now but lol i hate this one, no minimize button, only has exit button on window03:49
wilee-nileemy inflated ego rarely allows me to ask for help03:49
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: lol03:50
Romancewilee-nilee: how do i get back the default gnome shell as is in fresh 12.04 , this one kinda weird for me03:50
wilee-nileeRomance, Should install now sudo apt-get install gnome-shell03:51
Dr_WillisRomance:  use the gnome shell extensions and tweak tools03:51
wilee-nileeyeah the tweak and the exstensions03:51
guest-77RakOdon't know why i can't login into my account, when i log in i get a dark screen some error are displayed for a sec and again return back to the login screen ?03:52
guest-77RakOhow can i fix this prob ?03:52
Dr_Willisif you really want the best gnome-shell experience you should be trying the latest ubuntu release. since it has the newer gnome shell03:52
wilee-nileeguest-77RakO, any history leading to this?03:52
Dr_Willisguest-77RakO:  does the guest user work, does a newly made user work?03:52
guest-77RakOwilee-nilee, currently logged in through the guest user account03:53
linux_unix-10how can i save my screen resolution configuration for a persistent live usb system?03:53
guest-77RakOnow i don't have any rights to add the user.03:53
wilee-nileeguest-77RakO, Is it a normal login?03:53
guest-77RakOyes it is a normal login03:53
wilee-nileeguest-77RakO, I suspect Dr_Willis may be better here, well I know it actually.03:54
guest-77RakOwilee-nilee, ok03:54
wilee-nileelinux_unix-10, how are you setting it/03:55
Dr_Willisguest-77RakO:  at the console. try logging in as your user.03:55
Dr_Willisnever mind...03:55
delinquentmesoo brand new laptop lenov Y510P ... and I cant seem to get the brightness keys to work ...  =[[[03:55
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linux_unix-10manually using xrandr03:55
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linux_unix-10i use the command :  xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x80003:56
vnc___wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis i can log into vnc account which has root priveledges03:56
linux_unix-10on next boot the config resets to 1024x800 , both VGA1 and LVDS103:56
xgeek-cubwhere the gpg.conf file is located?03:57
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linux_unix-10how can i save my display resolution config03:57
wilee-nileelinux_unix-10, Isn't there a message to hit a key to save when you run it, all I can do is google that.03:58
wilee-nileeI rarely have used xrandr03:58
hitsujiTMOlinux_unix-10: you need to add entries to xorg.conf03:58
linux_unix-10only apply, but resets on next boot03:58
linux_unix-10what? :(03:59
linux_unix-10xorg.conf?03:59
hitsujiTMOlinux_unix-10: yes.03:59
vnc___the errors in the .xsession-errors it seems dbus is not running.03:59
linux_unix-10please tell me how to do it, xorg.conf's syntax is unreadable to me03:59
linux_unix-10:(04:00
hitsujiTMOlinux_unix-10: i haven't had to set any config in xorg in years so i'm after forgetting. but you can ask those in #xorg04:00
linux_unix-10thank you :) :D04:00
wilee-nileelinux_unix-10, man xrandr gives some info in the cli04:01
wilee-nileehehe once you understand better probably though.04:02
linux_unix-10expain please04:02
linux_unix-10*explain04:02
wilee-nileelinux_unix-10, man is manual many apps have man pages cli is the terminal.04:02
linux_unix-10oh that04:02
linux_unix-10thanks for clearing that up04:03
wilee-nileeI figured you new with this nick linux_unix-1004:03
linux_unix-10not really, just haven't been here for a while04:03
vnc___which is the log file which i should see for xsession errors ? .xsession-errors ? or there is anyother log file ?04:03
wilee-nileemines a joke I forget others may be as well04:03
Dr_Willisvnc___:  id add a new user 'sudo adduser billgates'   and see if that user can log in.  you might want toinstall a minimal window manager and see if that one works instead of unity/ubuntu also 'sudo apt-get install jwm'04:04
Dr_Willisvnc___: A Common issue iw the permissions/ownership of the .Xauthority file. you can rename.remove it if you want to see if it helps04:04
somsipvnc___: ~/.xsession-errors is the correct one for me04:04
xgeek-cubwhere is the gpg.conf?04:05
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Dr_Willisxgeek-cub:  try 'locate gpg.conf'04:05
phyphorhitsujiTMO: would you believe it won't now install in a VM? did the Ubuntu One log in part of installation and it looks ot have hung.04:06
vnc___loggin out and checking that new user works or not04:06
xgeek-cubDr_Willis: no look04:06
xgeek-cubDr_Willis : no luck04:06
hitsujiTMOphyphor: thats a bug... restart and choose to skip the login04:06
phyphorYou stop using Ubuntu for 18 months and it all goes ot pot :(04:06
phyphorI was using Ubuntu at home for a long, long time04:07
phyphorlike, back in the 6.0sometihng days, maybe?04:07
phyphorall the way through to 12.0404:07
phyphorhitsujiTMO: I'll give it another shot04:08
Dr_Willisxgeek-cub:  if its was only recently made then you may need to update the locate database.   'sudo updatedb' then  the 'sudo locate gpg.conf' again04:08
phyphor(thanks)04:08
zexcrizwilee-nilee, Dr_Willis after removing the .Xauthority file it worked04:08
wilee-nilee!yay04:08
ubottuGlad you made it! :-)04:08
zexcrizlogged into my own account04:08
zexcrizWillis, :D04:08
Dr_Williszexcriz:  ive no idea what messes up the .Xauthoruty file. I think its when people use 'sudo' when they should be using 'gksudo'04:08
dewdropHi, I don't find /etc/sysconfig in Ubuntu 12.04, was that moved somewhere else?04:15
hitsujiTMOdewdrop: afaik, /etc/sysconfig is the redhat way of doing things. what exactly are you looking for?04:16
dewdrophitsujiTMO:  oh right, actually I was trying to fix an rsyslog issue by following https://stomp.colorado.edu/blog/blog/2010/05/20/on-rsyslog-and-warnings/04:17
hitsujiTMOdewdrop: /etc/rsyslog.d/04:19
CoJaBo!ops Welles_Lemuelson spamming in PM04:19
ubottuCoJaBo: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:19
hitsujiTMOdewdrop: parent ofc is /etc/rsyslog.conf04:20
hitsujiTMOCoJaBo: report in #ubuntu-ops04:20
IdleOnehandled for now04:21
mlt-How can I restore scrolling repeat on touch pad buttons with 13.10?04:24
mlt-I feel like it used to work on previous versions04:24
mlt-synclient -l does not event mention UpDownScrollRepeat anymore04:25
dewdrophitsujiTMO: thanks, adding SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-c3" to rsyslog.conf shows up an error"rsyslogd: unknown priority name "" I will go read the man pages04:25
phyphorhitsujiTMO: 3.5 hours later I have an installed Ubuntu OS (albeit in a VM) - maybe in the future I can break out of the virtualised world, but it'll do for now04:26
hitsujiTMOphyphor: hehe, hopefully ... gz on getting something up at least04:27
wilee-nileephyphor, here is a thread that might be helpful overall. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729504:27
kb8wluAnyone help installing gtx 680 drivers in unbuntu04:28
wilee-nileetha manufacturers have their own tweaked uefi setups, that is the context04:28
phyphorhitsujiTMO: booed and I've now had the keyboard and software updater closed unexptedly :(04:28
phyphorwow04:28
xgeek-cubDoes apt-get dist-upgrade change the ubuntu Versio from one to another04:29
xgeek-cub?04:29
xgeek-cub?04:30
wilee-nileexgeek-cub, nope04:30
hitsujiTMO!dist-upgrade | xgeek-cub04:30
ubottuxgeek-cub: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.04:30
phyphorand even though I told it to installupdates during installation, immeditely post install it has updates - hitsujiTMO is this common? I've never had this number of ussies with previous versions04:31
wolftuneanyone have a clue how to start troubleshooting my machine that won't suspend? It suspends and then immediately wakes up on its own!04:31
hitsujiTMOphyphor: i don't think i've ever actually see it update anything during installation.04:31
kb8wluanyone know the process for installing gtx680 graphics drivers for unbuntu04:31
wilee-nileewolftune, unplug the mouse and see if it happens04:32
wolftunewilee-nilee: there's no mouse, no peripherals at all04:32
wilee-nileewolftune, Ah, hmm, laptop?04:32
hitsujiTMOwolftune: laptop?04:32
Dr_Willisi think updated during install. updates a core set of packages.04:32
Dr_Willislike security only updates04:33
* mlt- is shocked... touchpad scroll repeat was ditched http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/10208/ Did this patch go through?04:33
hitsujiTMODr_Willis: probably. even a debootstap install doesn't install the latest of everything04:33
* Dr_Willis dosent even know what 'touchpad scroll repeat' would mean.04:33
wilee-nileethe daily do04:33
wilee-nileetouchpad scroll sucks.....oh wait, what is it.04:35
mlt-Dr_Willis: I have separate buttons for up/down scrolling. Now I have constantly to press those instead of holding, e.g. in a browser04:35
wolftunewilee-nilee: hmm, I wonder if my touchpad is sending signals when I don't touch it or something else…04:36
mlt-pretty annoying04:36
wolftunethe question is: how can I check what signals that would wake the computer are being sent to troubleshoot??04:37
wilee-nileewolftune, That was my thought, as far as a mouse getting vibrations "man"04:37
hitsujiTMOwolftune: more than likely its a kernel module not working properly04:37
wolftunehitsujiTMO: ah, this did seem to happen with the 3.11 kernel I install as backport…04:37
hitsujiTMOwolftune: have you googled to see if others are having the same issue?04:38
hitsujiTMOwolftune: with your laptop model that is04:38
wolftunehitsujiTMO: I don't google I duckduckgo. But yeah, I did some searches but don't know how to search04:38
wolftunehitsujiTMO: like what to type04:38
wolftuneI mean I did obvious searches04:38
hitsujiTMOwolftune: what is your laptop model?04:38
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wolftuneanyway, the same laptop (Thinkpad Twist) was fine before, so it does seem to be a 3.11 issue04:39
wolftuneexcept sometimes with 3.11 it works correctly04:39
wolftuneso it's not consistent always, it's sometimes ok04:39
wilee-nileewolftune, unity desktop?04:40
hitsujiTMOwolftune: whats the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xmir04:40
wolftunehitsujiTMO: so searching shows up all sorts of issues about waking and suspending but dunno how to isolate search to this issue04:40
wolftunehitsujiTMO: not using mir04:41
wolftunewilee-nilee: I'm actually on KDE04:41
wolftuneIt's Ubuntu but I have KDE installed, not Unity04:41
wilee-nileewolftune, same in both de?04:42
hitsujiTMOwolftune: you should at least report a bug. only bugs im seeing are reported against xmir04:42
wolftunewilee-nilee: I only use KDE04:42
garciancwolftune, I remember years ago I had a Thinkpad running Ubuntu and the touchpad was all over the place until I messed around with synaptics. I can't really remember what i did, but you could search for that.04:43
wolftunehitsujiTMO: how can I clarify the bug? Is there a way to even figure out what is waking the computer up?04:43
hitsujiTMOwolftune: last comment here reports a *fix* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/121323304:43
wilee-nileewolftune, You could make another user and see if it happens there.04:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 1213233 in unity (Ubuntu) "Lenovo Thinkpad Twist: Suspend does not work" [Critical,Confirmed]04:43
wolftunewilee-nilee: that's an interesting idea04:43
wilee-nileecheck the bug though04:44
kb8wluHow do i install gtx680 nvidia drivers in ubuntu04:44
hitsujiTMOwolftune: report the bug, then apport the bug id04:44
hitsujiTMOwilee-nilee: that could just be miss assigned tho04:44
wilee-nileeyeah may be04:44
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wolftunehitsujiTMO: looks like that bug is my bug, I'll work from there, thanks!04:47
kb8wluxxa04:51
kb8wluHelp installing gtx nvidia drivers04:51
ssj5gokui want to install dlna on my pc so that i can play songs and videos from my android phone .....how can i do that??04:51
ssj5goku+04:52
Paulus68_1kb8wlu: perhaps this can help you  http://askubuntu.com/questions/296422/nvidia-gtx-680-drivers-ubuntu-13-04-black-screen04:53
wolftunehitsujiTMO: thanks again, reported that it affects me too, and the fix did it, I'm happy yay!04:54
hitsujiTMOwolftune: sweet04:54
hitsujiTMOssj5goku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA04:54
finetunerIs there a torrent search downloader app for ubuntu 10.04 ??04:58
finetunersomething that's easy to install and just works04:58
hitsujiTMOfinetuner: desktop or server?04:58
finetunerlaptop04:58
hitsujiTMO!eol | finetuner04:58
ubottufinetuner: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades04:58
somsip!pinning04:59
ubottupinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto04:59
pero!help04:59
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:59
Dr_Willisfinetuner:  hmm.. cant say ive really noticed a torrent search front end..  theres several torrent-meta search sites like torrentpond.04:59
perowhat's the command for package info?04:59
hitsujiTMOi'm afraid 10.0 is eol. best to upgrade it to 12.04. there's transmission in that ( with the latest version available from ppa )05:00
lotuspsychjepero: !info packagename05:00
pero!info chromium-browser05:00
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 29.0.1547.65-0ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 32423 kB, installed size 118627 kB05:00
Dr_Willisfinetuner:  with Unity and its Lens feature. there might be some Torrent Lenss available.05:00
hitsujiTMOpero and you can do that in a provat emessage05:00
hitsujiTMOprivate*05:00
finetunerI'm looking for a torrent app like frostwire for 10.04 that has a built-in search engine and downloading ability05:01
finetunerunfortunately frostwire doesn't work because it needs jre 7 which isn't available in 10.0405:01
finetuner<searches apt-cache for torrent.....05:01
Dr_Willisfinetuner:  you really should update to a newer reelase05:02
hitsujiTMOfinetuner: nothing is being updated for 10.04 as its end of life. you need to upgrade to 12.0405:02
ssj5gokuhitsujiTMO: i couldnt figure how to install it... i am new.....can you please help05:02
alpha-androidHey guys i need some help. Got a new system and it didnt come wigh an os.....05:03
alpha-androidIi wanted to load linux on it. However when he load screen comes up05:04
wilee-nileealpha-android, linux or ubuntu?05:04
alpha-androidIit asks me if i want to install or run off cd. Doesnt matter what i choose it then voes to a grey screen hen nothing05:05
alpha-androidUbuntu05:05
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | alpha-android05:05
ubottualpha-android: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:05
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | alpha-android05:05
wilee-nileealpha-android, Make sure the disc is good check the sum05:05
Dr_WillisGotten where i dont need nomodeset for any of my nvidia systems any more. ;)05:06
hitsujiTMOalpha-android: I also suggest nomodeset05:06
Dr_Willisalpha-android:  what is the video card/chipset on the pc?05:07
alpha-androidMy new system has an nvidia gf gt63005:07
Dr_Willisthen nomodeset may be needed.05:07
alpha-androidRunning intel i305:08
hitsujiTMOstill nomodeset05:08
alpha-androidAnd how do i input this command05:08
Dr_Willisonce you get the system installed. you may then need to install the proper nvidia drivers05:08
qwebircWhen I try to run this command (sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs+504M) it outputs this: dd: memory exhausted by input buffer of size 528482304 bytes05:08
qwebircbs=504M*05:08
Dr_Willisread  the url the bot pasted above.. shows how to enable nomodeset05:08
Dr_Willisqwebirc:  you dont want to use 504mb for a Block size.05:09
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: by such a high blocksize?05:09
Dr_Willisqwebirc:  anything over 8mb is most likely pointless05:09
hitsujiTMOwhy*05:09
qwebircbut someone told me I should put my ram size there?05:09
qwebircmy ram is 504 MB05:09
Dr_Willisqwebirc:  i dont know why someone would say such a silly thing05:09
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: they wanted to kill your ram mostlikely05:09
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Dr_Williswe are telling you to NOT use such a insane number05:10
Dr_Willis4mb would be plenty05:10
qwebircso 4MB is cool05:10
qwebircThanks05:10
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: i've actualyl found not specifying a blacksize to be faster with some SSDs05:11
qwebircwhile(true); do kill -USR1 `pgrep -l dd | egrep ' dd$' | awk '{ print $1 }'`; sleep 5m; done05:11
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: but yeah. if you're going to specify something. 4M is good05:11
qwebircCan this be used to check the status of the wipe?05:12
Dr_Willistry it and see.05:12
Dr_Willis;)05:12
qwebircwell what would you suggest to check the status?05:12
Dr_Willisid just start it running.. then to fix supper..05:13
Dr_Willisit will quit when its done..05:13
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: ive only ever just ran and headed off to do somethign else and not worry about it05:13
qwebircOkay then05:13
qwebircwish me luck bye05:13
hitsujiTMOqwebirc: you could also use offsets05:13
daveygPopped my head in to say hi,05:22
ganjaherbsi dont know if this is modifiying a dev rule , BUT i figured out how to manually over ride the bluetooth. the command is <echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/bluetooth.override>05:22
daveygHi!05:22
daveygWhat you trying to do ganjaherbs?05:23
ganjaherbsdaveyg: just comletely disable bluetooth on start up.05:24
ganjaherbsie not load the module or daemon05:24
daveygDoesnt bluetooth load just the same as a wifi card?05:25
wilee-nileeganjaherbs, You have a gui?05:25
ganjaherbsright so we have to disable the daemon that handles the module and i also blacklisted the module as well05:25
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: yes05:25
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: 13.10 desktop on thinkpad x22005:26
wilee-nileeganjaherbs, I turn it off in startup applications, not sure if that works for you.05:26
daveygOnly say that as i have a wifi card i dont like loading on boot so  i use a bash script to run on boot to kill it.05:26
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: well i ran the sed one liner to show hidden startup but bluetooth doesnt show up on saucy now05:26
wilee-nileeheh, not surprised05:27
wilee-nileeheaven forbid you need can you remember all that?05:27
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: i guess sure05:27
wilee-nileeah long term is okay, hehe05:28
ganjaherbswell al it is is i have the echo manual over ride and the blacklist05:28
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: so far i only added uvcvideo  and bluetooth to the blacklist05:29
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wilee-nileeah05:29
victor__hi05:31
victor__I am here05:31
wilee-nileefinally05:31
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: i have noticed people getting the < | > command mixed up with the ">>" command05:31
daveygeasy done.05:31
wilee-nileeganjaherbs, Not sure what you mean, I'm just a bystander overall.05:32
wilee-nileeno code here05:32
daveygi still dont understand the pipe command really, the > or >> ive just about got my head around.05:33
ola2how to run add-apt repository without asking for user permission05:33
ola2means i will run that in sh script05:33
ganjaherbsi am only 3 chapters in to this Linux command line book and its been 6 months i started trying to learn it.05:33
Dr_Willischeck its command line options05:34
hitsujiTMOdaveyg: just think of bash as a colection of rivers and you need to pipe a stream from one river to the next05:34
Dr_Willisola2:  it may have some --yes option05:34
Dr_Willisganjaherbs:   the basics shouldent take very long.. then you learn what you need as you need it05:34
daveygola2: do you have root privs?05:35
ObrienDaveganjaherbs... trying to remember all of it is the hard part ;)05:35
XirreI'm using MonoDevelop as an IDE for Ubuntu and whenever I use "using System.Net.Sockets;" I get the following error: http://www.byond.com/members/Xirre/files/Net%20Namespace.png05:35
XirreAny idea why?05:35
Dr_Willisola2:   add-apt-repository --help    shoes a --yes   option05:35
ola2thank you willis05:35
daveygif so you can use sudo -s05:35
ola2u saved a lots of work05:35
Dr_Willisola2:  all i did was read the docs. :)   well the --help outpuyt05:35
Dr_Willismost of the apt tools have a --yes option05:36
daveygthat will allow you root privs within that cli.05:36
ola2dr willis just i want to save day05:36
ola2so its like that asking experts05:36
ola2thanks a lot05:36
Arch_NMEis there a CD sized iso for ubuntu 13.10?05:36
Arch_NMEI don't have a dvd burner05:37
Dr_Willisbash 101 lesson #4      commandname --help    or  commandname -help       often gives a quick help guide.  ;)05:37
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  you could use a flash drive05:37
Arch_NMEI don't have one of those either05:37
Snake2kHey everyone, my system already has 3 primary parititions (ntfs), I want to install ubuntu 13.10, how do I install it on a logical partition?05:37
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  thats how most people install these days.05:37
daveygIve learnt so much from irc ola205:37
Dr_Willis!mini | Arch_NME05:37
ubottuArch_NME: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD05:37
Arch_NMEit's 1:37am at my location and all I have is a cd burner and blank CDs05:37
* Dr_Willis looks at his necklace of 12+ flash drives.... ;)05:37
wilee-nileeArch_NME, use the net install very tiny.05:38
Dr_Willislubuntu Might fit on a cd.05:38
ganjaherbsArch_NME: unlucky man, i found an 8 gb flash drive at a bus stop the other day....05:38
Arch_NMEahh, yes that sounds perfect05:38
Paulus68_1Dr_Willis:  and you look mighty pretty too :D with that necklace05:38
Dr_Willisi got a 16gb flash drive thats so tiny its  barely noticeable when plugged in. :)05:38
hitsujiTMOArch_NME: the mini cd is no good if you want to do a uefi install tho05:38
Arch_NMEor no wait, text basedis no god05:38
Arch_NMEI need a live CD05:39
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  then try lubuntu. why do you NEED a live cd to install?05:39
daveygcant you install 10.04 off a cd then use then internet connection to upgrade? Arch_NME?05:39
ganjaherbsArch_NME: external cdr/dvr drive?05:39
Arch_NMEI needto run gparted to repartition my drive prior to the install05:39
Snake2kAnyone?05:39
wilee-nileedaveyg, 10,04 would need a eol upgrade not really a positive.05:39
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  theres the cli fdisk and parted tools05:39
daveygSup Snake2k?05:39
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  and cfdisk.05:40
Arch_NMEI got to do complicated stuff05:40
Arch_NMEI want a gui05:40
hitsujiTMOArch_NME: the mini cd is only a text based installer. you can still install the graphical environment with it05:40
ganjaherbsso you want to install from a hdd partition? can you do that?05:40
Arch_NMEI've got a software raid5 thing going that I need to resize05:40
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  theres a gparted live cd iso you can get05:40
daveygWhats eol wilee-nilee?05:40
Dr_Willisbut i know nothing about raid. ;)05:40
wilee-nileedaveyg, end of life05:40
Arch_NMEit's ubuntu softwareraid so I thought I would need ubuntu to fix it05:40
Arch_NMEno?05:40
Snake2kdaveyg: I need to install ubuntu 13.10.. now the system already has 3 primary partitions, when i make logical parititions they don't show up on the installer, when there is unallocated space the ubuntu installer says "unusable".. So do i get this to work05:40
Snake2kdaveyg: I cannot turn a whole physical parition into ext405:41
Arch_NMEmaybe I will just try the gparted CD first, thanks05:41
wilee-nileeSnake2k, You need a extended to contain logicals05:41
Dr_Willisits a handy cd to have.05:41
daveygdef.05:42
Arch_NMEI just hope it can resize a software raid05:42
Dr_Willisthat grml live cd - is alwo handy. but its more for power-admin type users. ;)05:42
Arch_NMEor even recognize it05:42
Snake2kwilee-nilee: do I have to turn one of my physical partitions into extended? will there be data loss?05:42
daveygi bet its something to do with the mbr rather than the way your formating the drive.05:42
Dr_WillisSnake2k:  you mean 'primary' not 'physical' i think05:42
Snake2kDr_Willis: oh yea sorry lol05:42
Dr_WillisYou can have 4 primary partions max on non-gpt systems.. ONE of those can be an extended that holds logicals05:43
ganjaherbsdaveyg: as in raring ringtail eol is SOON !!!05:43
wilee-nileeSnake2k, It would help if we could see a screen shot of gparted, at least me anyway.05:43
Snake2kwilee-nilee: Im using windows to make those partitions.05:43
wilee-nileeSnake2k, YOU can't make ext type partitions in windows05:43
Snake2k:/05:44
Snake2kwilee-nilee: Isn't there any way to just use the wubi way to install ubuntu on windows? :/ the alongside windows thing just reboots into windows..05:44
ganjaherbswilee-nilee:  because they are Linux partitions right?05:44
wilee-nileeSnake2k, My bet is you have 4 primaries the boot does not show in it;s partitioner.05:44
daveygalthough you should be able to drop ubuntu on a dis-used partion and format to ext?05:44
wilee-nileeganjaherbs, loosely yes.05:44
Snake2kwilee-nilee: Yea i guess its 4 because of the system reserve thing too..05:45
ganjaherbswilee-nilee: ie as in Unix/Linux and POSIX05:45
wilee-nileeSnake2k, Any one but the boot can go in the extended, the firmware is commonly used.05:45
ganjaherbsSnake2k: HAVE YOU TRIED A LIVE USB CREATED WITH UNETBOOTIN?05:46
ganjaherbsops caps05:46
wilee-nileeSnake2k, This is not a W8 uefi right?05:46
daveygusing gpart will def allow you to make an ext partion05:46
daveygbut ubuntu cd should do that for you anyway05:47
ganjaherbsyou could create a ext partition running a live session from a flash drive created with unetbootin?05:47
Dr_Willisbackup everything.. befor messing with messing around your partions.. ;)05:47
wilee-nilee+105:47
Snake2kganjaherbs: I made the usb from the "universal usb installer" from pendrivelinux.com05:47
Arch_NMEwhere is the fun in that?05:47
Dr_Willisganjaherbs:  yes. ou can install/run gparted from a live usb05:47
Snake2kwilee-nilee: Nope05:47
ganjaherbsSnake2k: unetbootin is better IMO05:47
wilee-nileeSnake2k, cool I have  short job I do in a moment nightly so others can help if needed.05:48
Snake2kganjaherbs: Could that be the problem why alongside windows doesn't work?05:48
ganjaherbsSnake2k: yes05:48
daveygdont install linux to a pen drive etc and think it will keep working,05:48
Snake2kwilee-nilee: Thank :)05:48
ganjaherbsSnake2k: try again using unetbootin and set the disk space allowed for file ..... to 999905:48
daveygunless you really know what your doing it will cause all kinds of problems in the near future05:48
Snake2kganjaherbs: Will do that now :)05:48
ganjaherbsSnake2k: ok05:49
Dr_Willisive done full install to flash drives ;) ran fine..05:49
Snake2kganjaherbs: Btw just need to know one thing.. when i do a alongside windows, and if the system reboots, should i just let it continue or make it boot from usb.05:50
Dr_Willislive usb installs are best used for short term  tasks.05:50
ganjaherbsSnake2k: choose the "install along side " option from the unetbootin grub menu05:50
daveygDoe for a while Dr_Willis, but i find in the end it fails.05:50
Dr_WillisSnake2k:  after it instgalls  and reboots you dont need the flash drive any more.05:50
ganjaherbsSnake2k: no reset your bios to boot from hdd05:50
Snake2kganjaherbs: Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, I will do that now and let you guys know :)05:50
Dr_Willisdaveyg:  ran for almost 6 months+ that way. :)  not had my 16gb flash have issues..  but it was a big $8    so im not worried05:51
ganjaherbs$805:51
Dr_Willisive had more hard drive failures then i have had flash drive failures..  unless you count the flash drives going throught the clothes washer/dryer as a failure. ;)05:51
daveygmy problem happened if i changed usb port.05:51
Dr_Willischange usb port? cant say ive ever had that be an issue. booted a full usb flash install on differnt machines and ports.05:52
Dr_Willisjust have to watch out what drivers you install ;) if switching machines.05:52
Snake2kDr_Willis: ganjaherbs: unetbootin doesn't have options for 13.10 :/05:53
ganjaherbsSnake2k: i used it already.. are you sure?05:54
Dr_Willisi use tools from the pendrivelinux site.. not unetbootin05:54
ObrienDaveSnake2k... select the ISO.05:54
daveygIf your good with linux Dr_Willis then thats straight forward.05:54
daveygbut for most of us newbies it can be the end of the road.05:54
Dr_Willistheres a multisystem tool i use that lets  me have several disrtos/isos on the same flash05:54
ObrienDaveSnake2k... at the bottom of the unetbootin window05:55
Snake2kganjaherbs: ObrienDave: found the thing lol05:55
Dr_Willisdaveyg:  with the use of UUID's there sholdent be an issue with running from USB and changeing ports. unles theres some odd hardware quirk on the pc05:55
Snake2kOkay its creating the usb05:56
daveygyou seem to know what your talking about Dr_Willis.05:56
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rchavikhi, is there away for apt-get to only 'update' specific repo?05:56
daveygIm running ubuntu 1205:56
ganjaherbsdaveyg: he is Linux certified if that is what you mean?05:57
Dr_Willisim certified insane...05:57
Dr_Willis;)05:57
Arch_NMElinux certified???05:57
ganjaherbsDr Insane05:57
ObrienDaveyes, we know LOL05:57
daveygsometimes for no reason it freezes05:57
daveygIs there a way to record the errors before i get locked out?05:58
ganjaherbsArch_NME: compTiA LInux+ Certification05:58
daveygIf it was a windows pc i would turn on error reporting ? is there something simular?05:58
Dr_Willisdaveyg:  install the ssh service. ssh in from another box and monitor the logs and see what happens when it freezes.05:59
Dr_Willisif SSH also freezes then its a deep issue.. if its just X freezeing. then its a driver/X issue05:59
daveygWouldnt work.05:59
ganjaherbsArch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drink06:00
ganjaherbsArch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drinknk06:00
ganjaherbsoops06:00
daveygI would think that when the freeze happens you would not even get a ping back from the ip06:00
ganjaherbsDr_Willis: could you take the test while drunk and pass it with flying colors?06:01
cindyPIs there anyone who can help me set up a new partition in fstab? I've tried and it isn't working06:01
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ganjaherbscindyP: you should tell us what machine you are using06:03
daveygcindyP: you tried something like gpart's boot cd?06:03
cindyPhmm machine? Lenovo06:03
ganjaherbscindyP: OS?06:03
cindyPI have a working system working Ubuntu 12.04 just want to mount a partition ext4 for some extra space06:04
ganjaherbsgparted06:04
cindyPDid gparted to create and format the partition06:04
daveygBut just to load a drive.06:04
daveygwhat about webmin?06:05
cindyPI created mount point in /media06:05
ganjaherbs<pmount>06:05
cindyPI edited fstab but I can't access the drive - permission problem?06:05
daveygmakes loading a drive really easy without knowing what your really doing with linux mount options?06:05
cindyPdon't think I have webmin06:06
ganjaherbscindyP: there is a command you need to run and post the output to pastebin but i dont know the command.. they can help you then06:06
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daveygcindyP: maybe try http://www.webmin.com/deb.html06:07
dmanncindyP: what is the filesystem on the new partition?06:07
Mansonhi there06:07
daveygonce you have it running you should be able to pick any drive, mount it and tell it to auto mount every time you boot.06:08
cindyPfile system is ext406:08
daveygwhat you think ganjaherbs?06:08
dmannwhat partition /dev/# is it?06:09
ganjaherbsdaveyg: it is out of my leaugeu right now but i suggest checking the ubuntu forums06:09
Arch_NMEwell, in case anyone is curious gaparted can see my software raid but it won't let me resize it06:09
ganjaherbscindyP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232790/automount-ext4-partition-with-user-permission-ownership-fstab06:10
ganjaherbsthat should about sum it up06:10
daveygArch_NME:  there is a boot cd that will let you change partion size06:10
cindyPthanks ganjaherbs - let me digest that link for a moment06:11
daveygi know its out there because ive done it before06:11
Dr_Willis!raid06:11
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:11
ganjaherbscindyP: thats what its all about.. doing the homework.. no real way around it:)06:11
daveygWhats the reason behind what your trying to do cindyP?06:12
alpha-androidThat command didnt qork06:12
linux_is_my_heroI'm having trouble with a dual-boot windows 7/ ubuntu 13.10 installation, if anyone can help me, here's my problem: after installing windows 7 ultimate N, I then proceeded to install ubuntu 13.10 and the partitioner created some strange soup sandwich of partitions and told me my swap file wasn't big enough. Before I made the swap file larger with the ubuntu installer's partition tool, I noticed that there were two rand06:13
daveyghi alpha-android.06:13
alpha-androidHi davey06:13
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alpha-androidIm tryinv to get ubuntu to load on cd. It just wont do it. It goes to thw option screen then whatwver i choose it just voes to a grey screen and does nogi g06:14
daveygwhats up alpha-android? im an android fan so thought i would say hi.06:15
Dr_Willisalpha-android:  try the mini cd perhaps? it uses a text based installer06:15
alpha-androidSomeone suggested unetbootin06:16
ObrienDavealpha-android... neither will help if you have a bad DL06:16
Guest49416HI, got a question regarding file sharing between ubuntu and windows.  I set it up, ubuntu can see the windows machine, but when I try to access it, it gives "Failed to retreive share list from server".  When I did a tcpdump to checkout what's happening, I see that the Login is failing.  It's not prompting me to enter the Windows user name, so windows is rejecting the connection.  Any ideas on how to fix this?06:16
daveyglinux_is_my_hero: dont no if this would help but maybe,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair06:16
ganjaherbsObrienDave: hash sum?06:16
linux_is_my_herodaveyg: thanks! :-)06:16
ObrienDaveganjaherbs... yep MD5 is your friend06:17
anudasguest, smb share06:17
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Dr_Willis!md506:17
Guest49416anudas: what do you mean by "smb share"?06:17
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:17
anudasguest, try to learn somethink about sms or samba06:18
anudassmb06:18
Guest49416anudas: kinda trying to... any helpful hints?06:18
cindyPganjaherbs: the chown command seems to have done the trick. Going to reboot now to recheck thanks06:18
alpha-androidWhat was that command again for nvidia cards? I have my nvidia hooked into the monitor. Maybe i should hook it up to the onboard instead and see if it installs. But then i will have to try install dfivers06:18
linux_is_my_herodaveyg: how do i just remove all partitions except the one that windows is on, so i can force ubuntu to do a clean install with the remaining 70 of 320 GB? ubuntu never fully installed when i tried to install it06:19
ganjaherbs<sudo chown -R myname.myname /media/data/> may have solved cindy's issue06:20
daveygjust boot from the install cd.06:20
Arch_NMEI think this is my answer: http://webapp5.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/SuSe-Dokumentation/manual/sles-manuals_en/manual/raidresize.html06:20
daveygshould allow you to pick where you install it to.06:20
linux_is_my_herodaveyg: i do that and it gives me some rubbish about partitions not being proper. i notice that the root partition is only 4GB and the swap is only 4GB. i can adjust the swap size, but not the root size.06:21
daveygif i remember correctly you have to hit the advanced rather than clicking through06:21
daveygYou dont so happen to have a motherboard that is set to raid?06:22
linux_is_my_herodaveyg: no raid06:22
daveygDo you have a spare hdd that you can put into that pc?06:23
linux_is_my_heronope06:23
linux_is_my_heroi could format the hdd from the bios and start over and install windows and then ubuntu...any other ideas?06:23
daveygYou have windows running okay i guess?06:24
linux_is_my_heroyes :-)06:24
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, can you screen shot gparted from the live cd and imagebin it?06:24
daveygdo you have a partion apart from windows to use?06:24
anudasubuntu software center, system, NFS06:24
linux_is_my_herowille-nilee: i can do that, but i have to log out and come back06:25
Dr_Willisformat the hd from the bios?06:25
linux_is_my_heroDr-Willis: yes, format the hd from the bios06:25
Dr_Williscant sayive ever seen a bios that could format a Hard drive06:25
daveygim with Dr_Willis!06:26
Hai_Karatetest test06:26
ubuntu_Hi06:26
daveygHai_Karate: test 2 test 206:26
Hai_KarateThanks06:26
daveygnps06:26
ubuntu_can anyone help me with ubuntu bootup issue I m facing.06:27
Dr_Willis!details06:27
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:27
daveygWhats the problem ubuntu_?06:27
R0b0t1Hi, I am on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, how do I install SDL 2 development libraries? I need base, image, mixer, andI think one more.06:27
ubuntu_Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found.06:28
ubuntu_This is what I get when I try to boot 13.1006:28
LuisGerehi, i have a problem on ubuntu 13.10... why i can't erase a carpet on trash?06:28
wilee-nileeLuisGere, carpet on trash?06:29
anudasubuntu software center, mixer in into search panel06:29
ubuntu_I get this error on booting 13.10 "Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found."06:29
LuisGerewilee-nilee i don't know how to explain... do you speak spanish? it was a carpet that i was erase and i can't erase de trash (vaciar papelera)06:30
AngryNinjahello all06:30
Hai_KarateHi all06:30
ObrienDave!es | LuisGere06:30
ubottuLuisGere: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:30
daveygDid it ever work ubuntu_?06:30
AngryNinjaany geeks in here?06:30
AngryNinjalol06:31
LuisGereubottu thanks!06:31
xmetalam i losing my mind or is this not making sense?06:31
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)06:31
Dr_WillisR0b0t1:  use the package manager tools and look for the SDL* -dev packages06:31
ubuntu_yes it was working the first time I installed it.06:31
anudasenglish :-)06:31
daveygI guess i fall into into the geek cat AngryNinja, why?06:32
Dr_WillisR0b0t1:  or use the 'sudo apt-get build-deps packagename'  (or ws it build-dep) to pull in all needed dev packages for a package to compile06:32
wilee-nileeAngryNinja, just freaks06:32
ubuntu_I think windows might have something to do with changing the init file..06:32
AngryNinjalol daveyg, it was just a conv starter. I never know what to say in these things06:32
ObrienDavexmetal... since you haven't asked anything, you must be losing your mind06:32
ObrienDave;)06:32
Dr_Willisxmetal:  did you look under the couch? theres where my mind normally is when loose it.06:33
daveygIm in, What you up to AngryNinja?06:33
xmetalwas talking about the "carpet on trash" type comments06:33
xmetallol06:33
michaelahow do you build software from source06:34
ObrienDaveLMAO yup, gotcha06:34
xmetali keep mine on a leash so if it trys to get away, it cant get far06:34
AngryNinjanot much daveyg, just trying to figure out something in linux...was hoping I could come here and pick someones brain06:34
AngryNinjau?06:34
ubuntu_I believe it was because of dual boot of Windows and Ubuntu which might have caused the problem06:34
daveygbuild software from source is easy, Save up and pay someone!06:34
LuisGerenobody talks on #ubuntu-es -.-06:34
wilee-nileeubuntu_, Rather unlikely, but go ahead.06:34
wilee-nileethe dual boot sort of yes, windows unlikely06:35
wilee-nileeubuntu_, Have you checked the sum of the iso or disc? how fast was it burnt?06:36
daveygAngryNinja: snet over a pm if that makes it easier for you to start.06:36
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ObrienDaveLuisGere... okay, what do you mean by 'carpet on trash'?06:37
LuisGerea file that i erase06:38
daveygwilee-nilee: the amount of times if failed installing linux because of a poor download06:38
LuisGereand then i can't empty the trash06:38
LuisGerei don't know why06:38
wilee-nileeLuisGere, This root trash?06:38
daveygfrom cli, rm -r then folder name06:39
LuisGereno root,06:39
LuisGerei try with rm -r and it don't works06:39
* xmetal scratches head06:40
anudasrm -r :-) nonback command :-)06:40
LuisGerei think that i have to empty like a root user06:40
Dr_Willis!trash06:40
ubottuYour GUI file manager's Trash folder is located at ~/.local/share/Trash/ for files moved to trash from your hard disk and .../.Trash-userid/ on external devices for files moved to trash from the device.06:40
daveygsudo first?06:40
ObrienDavemakes sense to me06:40
LuisGerethanks i going to try it ubottu06:40
xmetalokkkkkkkkk re-reading it i think i got it ... file got deleted, and its in the trash can but they want to empty the trash can it "something is not allowing it to empty" and that file is still there (in the can)06:42
* xmetal yawns06:42
LuisGerewhat's it happens? a file was create only06:42
LuisGereand them i can't empty the trash, it can be virus?06:43
LuisGereyes xmetal06:43
QuestIs there a (or expected) problem if too many files are stored in one directory?06:43
anudasvirus on linux?06:43
Dr_WillisLuisGere:  virus? Your windows mindset is showing06:43
LuisGerei don't think so, right?06:43
Dr_WillisLuisGere:  whats the exact path to the directory/file you are having issues with?06:44
ObrienDaveQuest... there is NO limit to the number of files in one sub-directory06:44
xmetallol @ "your windows mindset is showing"06:44
daveygWindows rules06:44
R0b0t1Dr_Willis: It is a self-compiled package. How do I search available packages?06:44
anudasQuest, how many files you sugest?06:45
LuisGereubottu thanks, i resolve the problem06:45
ubottuLuisGere: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:45
Dr_WillisR0b0t1:  Im no tsure what you mean. give the channel more details06:45
LuisGerebut i don't know why the file create only06:45
LuisGereXD oks, the bot resolve my problem!06:45
ObrienDave*face palm*06:46
xmetali know i am really tired right now, but i feel lost trying to follow this06:46
xmetallol06:46
LuisGerei have to erase it like a root user on  ~/.local/share/Trash/06:46
LuisGeresorry for my english xmetal, i really have to practice.06:47
xmetalhmmm @ just got a spam PM for diapers06:47
xmetaloh no problem at all .. just trying to follow along to see if i can help06:48
ObrienDavexmetal... don't feel like the "Lone Ranger" LOL06:48
Dr_Willisits weird that trash gets owned by root.. unless you were using sudo and the file manager.. or somthing06:49
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LuisGerei tried to erase it with bleachbit but it didn't work06:50
xmetalah ... so a file got the deleted on a non-root acct and now its in the bin "root" is who the file belongs too06:51
xmetalhmm @ a command line way to empty the bin with "sudo" command in front06:51
LuisGerebut when i try deleted on a non-root acct it didn't work. I can't delete that file06:52
wilee-nileesudo apt-get install dyson "twice the suction"06:52
Dr_Willissudo rm  /path/to/file   ;)06:52
xmetalhmm wonder if running Bleachbit as root would do it06:52
xmetaler06:52
xmetalwith root permissions i mean06:52
xmetalnot sure if i am saying that right06:52
Snake2kIm having some weird problems with ubuntu install, I can't see my mouse cursor anymore :/06:52
Snake2kThat is when I made the iso from unetbootin06:52
Dr_Willismost likely they ran the file manager as root. and its in roots trash.. running th efile manager as root and using its 'empty the trash' would do it.06:52
LuisGereand i don't know why this file apears06:53
Dr_WillisBest is to Not run nautilus as root.06:53
* xmetal "Symathy laugh" at willie's joke06:53
xmetal:|06:53
xmetaland i typo'd that bad06:53
wilee-nileeI said was it root to start with06:53
xmetalSympathy06:53
ObrienDave'tis ok, we understand typonese ;)06:53
xmetalyep06:54
victor__hi06:55
victor__xmetal06:55
victor__exit06:55
LuisGerethanks everybody, i can empty the trash. But why that file apears only?06:56
phyphorhitsujiTMO: Virtual box really doesn't play nicely with sound. VMWare player finalyc racked it06:56
phyphor6 hours after I started :)06:56
Dr_WillisLuisGere:  as i said earlier. my guess.. You were playing around with Running the File Manager as root.06:57
Dr_WillisLuisGere:  since you havent vgiven us any real detaias as to the files name/path all we can do is guess06:57
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xmetal!details06:58
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:58
LuisGerethe file that apear only was MS hPnKoe06:58
QuestObrienDave anudas 8 million06:59
QuestObrienDave anudas http://www.olark.com/spw/2011/08/you-can-list-a-directory-with-8-million-files-but-not-with-ls/06:59
* xmetal "throws in the towel"07:00
LuisGereand i don't playing with running the file manager as root, i play it as root when i read this here and delete the file, it works07:00
ObrienDaveQuest... that is NOT the same as a file limit. that is a limit of the "ls" function07:00
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Dr_Willisecho *07:01
Dr_Willis;)  that has a limit also07:01
xmetaltrue @ ObrienDave07:02
Arch_NMEfile manager?? you mean nuatilus?07:02
LuisGere i don't understand =(07:02
LuisGereyes i mean nautilus07:02
Arch_NMEjust out of curiousity why would you not want to run that as root?07:03
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  why would you need to run the File manager as root?07:03
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  your user has full access to their own files just fine whenrunning it as the user.07:03
Dr_Willisrun Nautiuls as root.. one accidental deletion = system wont boot.. or worse07:03
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, to edit some system files or something idk, why not07:04
ObrienDaveQuest... only the ROOT directory of a drive has an entry limit. SUB-directories have NO limit07:04
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  use the shell as root to do those tasks. Not the gui tools.. thats the best way07:04
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, but why? It's easier to use gui tools07:04
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  if you got a nautlius window running as root.. and one thats not.. which window is which? ;)07:04
Dr_Willisyou come back 30 min later.. 2 nautiuls windows open..  one can potentially delte your entire system...07:05
LuisGerewell i think i can't explain with details on english my problem, but you said me how to fix it. Very thanks to all! ;)07:05
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, lol, why would I attmpt to delete my entire system in any window07:05
Dr_WillisLuisGere:  if its owned by root.. you need sudo./root rights to delete it..07:05
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  as i said.. one MISS CLICK - and it can be gone.07:05
Dr_Williscompiz has a plugin to put  (ROOT) in the title of apps running as root.07:06
ObrienDaveArch_NME... funny things happen.....07:06
Dr_Willistoo bad thats not enabled by default07:06
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, okay then, that answers my question I was just wondering if there was some other reason07:06
Dr_Willisive seen windows systems broken by a mistaken drag/drop in the system dirs.07:06
Dr_Willisif i want to run a gui/file manager as root. I dont use nautilus. i use a shell with 'mc' ;)07:06
Dr_Willisa shell with BRIGHT PINK background colors07:07
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, I like to break things07:07
Arch_NME;)07:07
ObrienDaveOld Atari's did not have a trashcan. It was more like an Incinerator LMAO07:07
Dr_WillisOs-9 you dragged/dropped the floppy disk icon onto the trash to 'eject' it......07:07
anudassomethink?07:08
Dr_Willis /ignore add Welles_Lemuelson07:09
Dr_Willisoops. ;)07:09
Arch_NMEDr_Willis, he spamming you too, lol07:10
R0b0t1Dr_Willis: Trying to compile a game, it needs a newer SDL library than in the repo07:10
abl_hello07:10
cfhowlettabl_, greetings07:10
abl_I am seeking help to install Huawei Mobile Modem07:11
Dr_WillisR0b0t1:  find a ppa with the newer versions, or compile them from source also07:12
Dr_WillisArch_NME:  not any more. ;)07:12
abl_How can I do that at the terminal?07:12
Dr_Willisabl_:  this is a 3g/4g cellphone usb dongle modem?07:14
R0b0t1Dr_Willis: Oh bother07:14
R0b0t1well, thank you07:14
abl_Willis, are u there?07:14
ornjAnyone wanna help w/ forensics on my system crash?07:18
Dr_Willisabl_:  give the channel details..07:20
ornjwas running a live distro ob a laptop, and a webpage caused the system to FREEZE. but I could Ctrl-Alt-F# to another terminal, which was VERY SLOW and showed kswapd0 consistently, tho it didn't say it was using much cpu.07:21
linux_is_my_heroMr_Wills: you were correct, I cannot format my HDD from my bios.07:21
ornjthought I'd wait since sometimes I've had similar issues resolve themselves, but I fell asleep w/ laptop on my bed, and wgen I woke up, screen was black, not just no image, but not illuminated.07:23
ornjfan is still running, tho, machine is still hot07:23
ornjIs the CPU still working? is there any way to pull out of this nosedive?07:24
ornjdid sys shut off from overheat? Am I potentially damaging my chip by letting it continue to run + not powering down?07:25
linux_is_my_heroif anyone can help me with my partition problem, i'd really appreciate it. this is what i have right now. http://imagebin.org/27533107:28
linux_is_my_heroI'd like to cahnge it to be just two partitions: one for windows, one for ubuntu07:28
milamberornj: you were running a live distro? why not just do a hard power down? no one here can tell you if the machine powered down. what is your question?07:28
milamberlinux_is_my_hero: what is the problem? the ubuntu installer can automagically partition to install next to windows07:30
ornjmy questions are: why do we think screen shut off tho fan is still running + processor is still warm?07:30
kongthaphi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????07:30
ornjam I damaging my CPU having let it continue to run after potentially having overheated?07:31
milamberornj: the screen could have shut off due to power management settings and the fan is still running because the laptop temperature is hot. if the fan is running, then it probably didn't shut itself off.07:31
linux_is_my_heromilamber: it seems to be unable to do so. :-( it wants me to manually adjust the swap size, and it wants to root size to be 4gb, when it has more availible. I also am unable to adjust the two free spaces to be one free space.07:31
milamberornj: you probably aren't damaging it further if you have taken it off the bed and it is cooling down07:31
milamberlinux_is_my_hero: then you may want to look at !gparted07:32
linux_is_my_heromilamber: is there a program that can completely format my hdd to be completely empty so I can start everything over?07:32
milamber!gparted | linux_is_my_hero07:32
ubottulinux_is_my_hero: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php07:32
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, a screenshot of the gparted partitioner on the live cd would be better.07:32
ornjis there any hope that the system will eventually work thru whatever it's stuck on, or did it just run out of RAM and die? no hope of salvaging what I'd saved to the live disc?07:33
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: I'll try that07:33
milamberornj: if it's an actual livecd you can't save anything to it07:33
linux_is_my_heromilamber: can't i at least do an imagebin of gparted from the livecd?07:33
milamberornj: it would all be gone when you restarted anyways07:33
jnhghyi'm on ubunut 12.04 and using gnome 3 desktop, I'd like to run the benchmark from disk utility, I've started disk utility, selected my hdd but I can't seem to find where the benchmark options are... can anyone help?07:34
ornjwell, no, exactly. but there was stuff I'd "saved" to the live filesystem07:34
milamberlinux_is_my_hero: not sure what you are asking07:34
wilee-nileejnhghy, top right the gear.07:35
ornjyes, exactly. which is why I'd like to recover this stuff before I do that.  ;)07:35
milamberornj: did you install an ssh server? what version of ubuntu was the livecd of, and have you tried ctrl + alt + f2?07:35
linux_is_my_heromilamber: can't i load ubuntu from the livecd, then open gparted, and use the printscreen button on my keyboard and paste the screenshot to an imagebin? it's either that, or use my cheesy camera cellphone07:35
milamberlinux_is_my_hero: yes, you should be able to do that07:35
linux_is_my_herogot it, be back ...07:35
jnhghywilee-nilee: that offers : 1) Format Disk 2) Create Disk Image 3) Restore Disk Image 4) View SMART Data ... nothing else07:36
wilee-nileejnhghy, Live cd?07:36
jnhghywilee-nilee: nope regular install07:36
ornji ctrl alt f5'd, as you'll see above07:36
ornjubuntu studio, so if that doesn't come w an ssh server, no.07:37
wilee-nileejnhghy, I think benchmark is a unmounted option, I see it in mine but I'm running 14.0407:37
jnhghywilee-nilee: ok thanks ...07:37
ornjoh btw re pwr mgt... screen was set to go blank, but never actually went OFF. this is no light whatsoever, closing + opening lid doesn't help07:38
milamberornj: did you ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to gnome?07:38
ornja few times, it was still there before I fell asleep07:39
ornj(actually xfce, not gnome)07:39
ornjbut i think it was on top/F5 when i passed out07:40
milamberornj: well xfce has some issues with waking not working in general07:41
daveyghere's a linux question, when you boot straight to cli, you can press ctrl with maybe shift or alt and then the numbers or maybe the function keys to get a screen full of jargon or a new cli. Whats the point of this? I only use it if ive crashed on boot?07:41
ornji mean, on a live distro w/ no swap disk, what happens if you run out of ram?07:41
ornjoh, oops07:41
wilee-nileedaveyg, some only use the cli.07:42
ornjwell, as i said, screen powering off wasn't normal m.o.07:42
linux_unix-10i can't install broadcom sta wireless driver, here's the error given: Sorry, installation of this driver failed.07:42
linux_unix-10Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log07:42
daveygOnly people like you wilee-nilee.07:43
linux_unix-10what should i do?07:43
wilee-nileedaveyg, lol not me.07:43
ornjhave also tried Ctrl-Alt-backspace07:43
kongthaphi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????07:43
milamberornj: http://superuser.com/questions/536901/what-happens-when-linux-os-out-of-ram-and-no-swap07:43
auronandacelinux_unix-10: have you looked at the log file it told you to?07:44
wilee-nileelinux_unix-10, Have you seen the broadcom info from the bot?07:44
ornjthanky sir :)07:44
daveygpm sent wilee-nilee07:44
wilee-nileedaveyg, I have pm blocked07:44
MadTuxcan someone tell me what the ubuntu archiving application package name is?07:44
milamberkongthap: we need more info, specifically - what are you typing into the terminal and what error message(s) are you getting?07:45
wilee-nileepm has been tmi generally07:45
ornjmilamber >> like the gb reference07:45
SomeDamnBodyhey, I have some input that has to be given to a program on the terminal07:45
SomeDamnBody(the program does a call to gets)07:45
SomeDamnBodybut the problem is, I also need to debug that program07:45
SomeDamnBodyI have contrived some input to give it07:46
SomeDamnBodybut it's not all printable07:46
kongthapmilamber: "Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an07:46
kongthapUpstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,07:46
kongthape.g. stop vsftpd ; start vsftpd. The restart(8) utility is also available"07:46
SomeDamnBodyhow can I give the program this input07:46
Snake2kHey guys, my wifi isn't working, im using a dell inspiron n5520.. Like.. I can't see any networks and there is nothing in "Additional Drivers"07:46
SomeDamnBody? preferably in an automated way07:46
linux_unix-10here's the last 5 line from /var/log/jockey.log: 2013-10-31 15:41:42,835 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver07:46
linux_unix-102013-10-31 15:41:42,865 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled07:46
linux_unix-102013-10-31 15:41:58,288 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled07:46
kongthapmilamber: i didn't understand what it said07:46
linux_unix-102013-10-31 15:41:58,346 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled07:46
linux_unix-102013-10-31 15:41:58,389 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled07:46
FloodBot1linux_unix-10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:46
linux_unix-102013-10-31 15:42:03,293 DEBUG: Shutting down07:46
SomeDamnBodyI would like to be able to pipe in to the clipboard, but apparently xsel and xclip don't work as advertised07:46
milamberkongthap: it wants you to use the format: sudo service vsftpd <command>07:47
wilee-nilee!bcm | linux_unix-1007:47
ubottulinux_unix-10: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:47
milamberkongthap: where the <command> is usually start, stop, or restart07:47
kongthapmilamber: the error i did paste came from "sudo service vsftpd restart"07:48
linux_unix-10here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334424/07:48
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  theres the 'clipboard' then theres the 'x selection buffer'07:48
wilee-nileeSnake2k, can you find the wifi info by running lspci in the terminal and post it?07:49
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  theres tools that can sync the two i recall. :)07:49
kongthapmilamber: oh after rebooting it seems working now... :)07:49
antithesisHello07:49
SomeDamnBodyhow do I sync them Dr_Willis07:49
makarawhat does ![] mean in markdown?07:50
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  i recall some tools in the repos. not used it in ages. but if the input is not just text. what s it?  whitespace? binary data?07:50
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, binary07:50
ornji guess that's my question. I've had JavaScript things lock up the system for quite some time, but recover later. how long should i give this oom killer to do its thing?07:50
SomeDamnBodyI have to debug it while giving it the data on the fly07:50
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:   you might need to use fifo's and pipes then. not the clipboard/selection buffer07:51
kongthapin common when setting up ftp server, where should be the home directory for anonymous access???07:51
GeryHello guy can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?07:51
milamberornj: i'd say if you haven't gotten a response now i would just say it's probably time07:51
ornjand even if it does, how do i see what I'm doing?  ;)07:51
SomeDamnBodydoes this look like the solution: superuser.com/questions/68170/how-can-i-merge-the-gnome-clipboard-and-the-x-selection07:51
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, fifos and pipes?07:51
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  with binary data.  i dont think you can use the clipboard07:51
ornjto restart?07:51
SomeDamnBodythe clipboard works with binary data on mac07:51
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  linux is not mac.07:52
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, do you mean running the command like: "command" < "file"07:52
SomeDamnBodybecause the command must be run under a debugger07:52
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  somthing like that07:52
milamberkongthap: goog-fu yields /var/ftp/07:52
SomeDamnBodymeaning that the file input resolution occurs prior to launching gdb07:52
ornjall unsaved-to-the-cloud stuff go bye-bye?  :(07:52
SomeDamnBodyso gdb --args "command" < "file"07:52
leif_greetins looking for a good ide for coding c for a newb07:53
gordonjcpIDEs suck07:53
milamberleif_: you are going to get a wide variety of opinions07:53
gordonjcpyou've already got gedit07:53
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, so that won't work07:53
leif_milamber, ok07:54
leif_maybe eclipse07:54
GeryHello guys can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?07:54
gordonjcpleif_: if you really want an IDE, KDevelop is pretty good, Eclipse is sort of an industry standard but it's written in Java07:54
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  no idea. you really havent given the channel much details. You might want to be asking this in a programmming channel07:54
milamberleif_: from ides suck you already have gedit | vi | emacs (which is kind of an ide) to fully integrated as eclipse, code::blocks, and even qt_builder07:54
kongthapmilamber: thanks but what is goog-fu ??? :(07:54
leif_thanks07:54
SomeDamnBodywhat other details are needed?07:54
gordonjcpEclipse is great if you have 32GB of RAM and maybe a couple of eight-core processors07:55
milamberkongthap: google-fu*, i just googled it07:55
SomeDamnBodyI need to do gdb --args "program" "binary input that can't be typed"07:55
SomeDamnBodyor wait...07:55
SomeDamnBodyI need to do gdb --args "program"07:55
SomeDamnBodythen after it executes for a bit07:55
SomeDamnBodygive it the binary input07:55
milamberkongthap: http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/12/02/set-up-an-anonymous-ftp-server-with-vsftpd-in-less-than-a-minute/07:55
Dr_WillisSomeDamnBody:  so perhaps a fifo is what you need then07:55
SomeDamnBodyfifo?07:56
Geryhow can i fix ..dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a...  error?07:56
gordonjcpleif_: do you really really need an IDE?  If you're just starting out, it's unlikely you're going to want to get your head around learning the IDE as well07:56
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, ok, so I looked up fifo07:56
gordonjcpleif_: and gedit has syntax highlighting, and it's already installed07:56
ornji guess i also want to know what likely happened - did overheating cause something to fail/shut off?07:56
Dr_Willishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFO07:57
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SomeDamnBodyIdk why you call them that, but I just told you that a fifo will *not work07:57
leif_gordonjcp, ok gonna try that07:57
Dr_Willisyou dont even realize what a fifo is as far as i understand you...07:57
Dr_Willisand why wont it work.07:57
kongthapmilamber: can i ask a little more, if i had some huge collection of files at /mnt/blahblah what technique should i use, such as symlink or what???07:57
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, because a fifo is read into the program on the level of bash; it gets resolve so that what the program sees is it on the argument stack (if you do < that is)07:58
kongthapmilamber: i meant, i don't prefer that /mnt/blahblah to be the home directory07:58
SomeDamnBodybut the data must be delivered after a prompt is made available07:58
SomeDamnBodythat's why would be best if it were in my clipboard07:58
SomeDamnBodyso I could just paste it when it's needed07:58
SomeDamnBodyand then press enter, its done07:58
Dr_Willis  SomeDamnBody  so  the app prints  a  'enter your data:' and you are supposed to type IN binary data?07:58
SomeDamnBodyyes07:58
SomeDamnBodysomething like that07:59
Dr_Willisthat sounds rather insane.07:59
ObrienDavesounds dangerous to me LMAO07:59
SomeDamnBodywell I'm sure you would think so07:59
Dr_Willisand it could read from a fifo that you then spit the data into the fifo from a second program.07:59
Dr_Willisi still wonder how you would type in a 'image.gif' like you were mentioning earlier.07:59
milamberkongthap: it depends on what you want the anonymous people to be able to do with them. i would not recommend allowing anonymous write access and if you are going to be working on the files you are just going to give yourself a headache if you have people accessing them at the same time. if you have enough space, it might be beneficial to just copy the files over and keep them sync'd w/ rsync. however, every use case is different. so i07:59
SomeDamnBodyI'm doing the example protostar and nebula binary security tutorials and this is what is required07:59
SomeDamnBodyDr_Willis, well the way I would do it, is cat image.gif | clipboard08:00
SomeDamnBodythen run the program08:00
SomeDamnBodyenter your data: <ctrl+v>08:00
SomeDamnBodybut that won't work08:00
linux_is_my_heroimagebin.net/27533408:00
SomeDamnBodybecause the xsel and xclip doesn't work out right08:00
SomeDamnBody...08:01
SomeDamnBodyso that last bit..08:01
SomeDamnBodyyou think maybe I could spawn an interactive process08:01
SomeDamnBodyand pipe it's output to the second process that wants data08:01
SomeDamnBody?08:01
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, I get a website not available.08:01
SomeDamnBodyI would just use python to print it in...08:01
Dr_Willisa fifo can print 'into it'08:02
Dr_Willishttp://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-named-pipes-fifos-bash08:02
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero it's imagebin.ORG08:02
Dr_Williscommand1 reads ffrom a fifo..   command2 spits the data into the fifo   and command1 reads the data as it goes in08:02
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: imagebin.org/275334 before i reboot again, gparted sees the windows partition and the two free space partitions and cannot edit the free space partitions. i tried adding another partition that is the same size as the two empty partitions, and it did nothing.08:03
kongthapmilamber: i just want to serve only myself by using notebook to access my ubuntu desktop over ftp, i prefer ftp because the notebook will have to download huge stuff, don't care about the speed but just not to slow down my desktop too much that's all08:03
milamber!vnc | kongthap08:04
ubottukongthap: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX08:04
Dr_Willissimpiler fifo examples ->  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/215608:04
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, So windows still boots, generally that 351MIB is the boot partition? you jsut need to choose the install alongside option.08:04
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero probably because the boundry is not on a cylinder. there is a setting for cylinder or megabytes. use cylinder if possible08:05
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, Windows has a no read on it maybe needs a chkdsk08:05
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: yes, windows boots without issues08:05
milamberkongthap: ftp is really an outdated way to do that. trying to keep files synced using ftp is a nightmare. if you are just trying to remotely access your desktop, vnc is a much better option08:05
linux_is_my_heroobriendave: I don't know what that means, can you tell me a little more?08:05
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, Not sure it will resize on a no read, but you would want to resize windows with its partitioner if needed.08:06
gordonjcpmilamber: vnc and ftp are two totally different things08:06
gordonjcpkongthap: have you looked at sshfs?08:06
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: i already resized windows with its partitioner, then tried to install ubuntu with the alongside option.  Why would ubuntu installer want to make the ubuntu root partition be 4gb instead of the remaining 50GB?08:07
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: I can imagebin with my smartphone if that helps08:07
milambergordonjcp: yes, it is. but if you look at the goal of "using notebook to access my ubuntu desktop" vnc makes more sense, which is why i am asking what he is actually trying to accomplish08:07
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero disks are defined by heads, cylinders, tracks and sectors.08:07
milamberor she*08:08
Dr_WillisObrienDave:  even ssd's ;)08:08
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, It would install a main partition and a swap, thats all you need really.08:08
linux_is_my_heroobriendave: is a cylinder just a platter in the hard drive?08:08
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linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: with the ubuntu installer partitioner, i can adjust the swap size, but not the root size. why?08:09
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero well, they are not physically made that way, it's mostly for backwards compatibility LOL08:09
Dr_Willislinux_is_my_hero:  it used to work that way. but these days - the drive controller might reinteperte the actual physical numers for the os to handle.08:09
Dr_Willislinux_is_my_hero:  like in the case of a SSD drive.08:09
linux_is_my_heroDr_Willis: so the OS sticks with predetermined standards and therefore does less work?08:10
kongthapgordonjcp: i will try to google it :)08:10
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero LBA is sort of a disk defining emulator. to put it into very simple terms08:10
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, One of the limitations here is only 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries anda extended with logicals, did you try and have more than 4 primaries or run all in one fell swoop from gparted.08:10
linux_is_my_heroObrienDave: is there a free partitioning program that I can download and put on a cd or dvd so that I can properly partition everything?08:11
cfhowlettlinux_is_my_hero, gparted is on the livecd08:12
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: I think theres only 4 partitions: windows boot, windows, linux swap, linux08:12
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero we all recommend gparted08:12
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, You don't have a windows boot nor need one leave that 351mib area alone it is to small, put an extended in the unallocated, and fill it with logicals ans a swap.08:13
kongthapgordonjcp: if we're not talking about "secure things" is the operations are different between copying the files  over sshfs and normal netowork sharing???08:13
jony_easyriderwhich is the keyboard shortcut for copy and paste in terminal? (CTRL+C or +V not working)08:13
wilee-nileeand*08:13
linux_is_my_herocfhowlett: imagebin.org/275334 gparted won't let me adjust the empty spaces, and ubuntu installer doesn't wanna use the full 59.33 gb to install swap and the ubuntu08:13
milamberjony_easyrider: try middle bouse button??08:13
linux_is_my_herowilee-nilee: tell me a little more, this is my first dual-boot machine08:14
milambermouse*08:14
kongthapmilamber: i will google for vnc too, thanks08:14
ObrienDavejony_easyrider SHIFT-CTRL C and V08:14
milamberkongthap: the solution really depends on what you are ultimately trying to accomplish08:14
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, what do you not undertand? have you used gparted before?08:14
linux_is_my_heroI have not used gparted before :-(08:14
jony_easyridermilamber, ty08:14
jony_easyriderObrienDave, ty08:14
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, Really you do not have to make partitions the installer will do it if you just choose install alongside.08:15
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero gparted is the way to go for a GUI08:15
linux_is_my_heroObriendave: i don't know what an "extended" is, nor a "logical"08:16
kongthapmilamber: nothing special i want to copy huge music files to my portable player, only my notebook has card reader, but the music files are update and always will at PC, so i'm looking for the way to use my notebook to get files from the PC and transfer it to the microSD...08:16
linux_is_my_heroobriendave:  if you can explain what these things are I'm sure I can figure out how to make it work :-)08:17
milamberkongthap: are they on the same network?08:17
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero think of a hard drive as a whole pie.......08:17
kongthapmilamber: nothing over the internet just inside my home network via switch hub and access point08:17
cfhowlettlinux_is_my_hero, you've got your 59 .3 gigs available.  install there and let the system allocate the partitions.  you'll be fine08:18
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero the "pie" can be split into only 4 "logical" pieces......08:18
milamberkongthap: then you should be able to right click on your music folder and then share it with whatever options you want. after that you can access it via the netbook and then you don't have to mess around with having multiple copies of things all over08:18
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero each piecs can be split into many "extended" pieces08:19
ObrienDave*piece08:19
kongthapmilamber: during the copying process, the PC will get slowing down??? just asking08:19
wilee-nileethat's a really confusing description, and relates in no way to partitions08:19
ObrienDavetried to make it simple. oh well08:20
linux_is_my_heroobriendave: so I add a logical partition equal to the 59GB, then split it into a swap (equal to the amount of system RAM) and a root?08:20
milamberkongthap: possibly, but not for long. if you want to keep the notebook and the desktop synced up, you should look at rsync.08:20
linux_is_my_heroobriendave: this definately helps :-)08:20
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, I would do a auto install and practice on a flash drive.08:21
kongthapmilamber: ok i will look for both sharing and rsync08:21
kongthapmilamber: lastly when setting sharing on PC, how can i find the shared folder, just using network browsing???08:21
wilee-nileelinux_is_my_hero, You will understand, however while dual booting with an OS you want to keep I would not mess aaround is all.08:22
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero basically, yes08:22
milamberkongthap: if you set up the shared folder to be accessible then that should be it08:22
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero and I agree with wilee-nilee08:22
djangonoobI had problems with the nvidia 319 update on ubuntu 12.04. now it is working again but I cant start the "nvidia x server settings"08:23
djangonooband there are 2 icons in the starter. both are not working08:23
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero if you're not comfortable with this, practice on a USB stick. can't bugger up your OS that way08:24
linux_unix-10can some one help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334542/ | I was trying to install a broadcom driver for my laptop, then a segfault happened. Took me a while to get back to Xsince I tried many key combos. Dunno what I pressed but I was able to return to X. Someone please help08:26
linux_unix-10* X since08:26
Dr_Willisdjangonoob:  try running it from the terminal? 'nvidia-settings'08:27
husnainlatifI need help installing a package, it doesn't have any extension but it was under "Download for linux" link :S Confused.08:27
Dr_Willishusnainlatif:  and whats the file name edxactly and where did it come from?08:27
Dr_Willishusnainlatif:  ive rarely seen a maker provide packages for ubuntu that work, or even are correct for ubuntu08:27
linux_unix-10This isn't the first time that it happened. This has happened in every Ubuntu release and distro that has run on my machine since 10.0408:28
husnainlatifIt came from revolutionary.io and it's simply called 'revolutionary' with no extension08:28
husnainlatifI'm trying to root my android phone and having a hard time doing so08:28
wilee-nileehusnainlatif, #android-root08:29
djangonoobDr_Willis: could not be found. if I want to install 'nvidia-settings'  it want to install the 304-version. nvidia-settings-319 is already installed08:29
Dr_Willishusnainlatif:  'file filename'  will give a small clue as to what it is.08:29
husnainlatifI'm already thre wilee08:29
Dr_Willis!find nvidia-settings08:29
ubottuFound: nvidia-settings, nvidia-settings-304, nvidia-settings-304-updates, nvidia-settings-310, nvidia-settings-310-updates08:29
husnainlatifand wow, I know you wilee-nilee  o.O08:29
husnainlatifI've read several forums posts by wilee08:29
wilee-nileeI have been on that channel at times08:30
Dr_Willishmm dont even see a 319 in the repos08:30
wilee-nileeah the UF08:30
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero looking at your screenshot again, sda is your FIRST physical partition. sda1 is the FIRST logical partition. any sdax would be more logical partitions under sda08:30
ObrienDavelinux_is_my_hero OOPS looking at your screenshot again, sda is your FIRST LOGICAL partition. sda1 is the FIRST EXTENDED partition. any sdax would be more EXTENDED partitions under sda08:31
husnainlatifOne of your posts have actually helped me a lot recently wilee-nilee :) Thanks08:31
husnainlatifDr_Willis,  revolutionary: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped08:32
wilee-nilee!yay | husnainlatif08:32
ubottuhusnainlatif: Glad you made it! :-)08:32
Dr_Willishusnainlatif:  so its a binary you run.. hope you got a 32bit system instgalled not  64.. but it still might run on 6408:32
husnainlatifhow do I know if I have it installed :S08:32
husnainlatifI'm sorry but I'm a newbie08:33
Dr_Willishusnainlatif:   make that thing executable. and run it.. and hope it works.. but i would be suprised if it did.08:33
husnainlatifPlease dumb that down for me.08:33
wilee-nileeObrienDave, They are gone and it's just one primary.08:33
wilee-nileelogicals are inside an extended08:34
ObrienDaveyep, that's right. long night ;)08:34
wilee-nileehehe it happens08:34
ObrienDave*more coffee*08:34
wilee-nileeI need a caffeine drip08:35
xgeek-cubhow to make vi the default editor for visudo?08:35
aeon-ltdxgeek-cub: it is08:36
Dr_Willisxgeek-cub:   i think theres a system variable you can set.08:36
Dr_Willisxgeek-cub:  check  man visudo08:36
Dr_WillisVISUAL           Invoked by visudo as the editor to use08:37
Dr_Willisexport VISUAL=vi08:37
Dr_Willisi think.08:37
esmichey08:38
xgeek-cubaeon-ltd: what is the difference between vim.basic and vim.tiny?08:38
linux_unix-10can someone please help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334542/ | I was trying to install bcmwl-kernel-source for my system when my screen suddenly showed fullscreen command line info and stuff. Took me a while before I could return to X. Please help. :(08:39
aeon-ltdi don't think i've ever chosen them, unless vim by default is basic08:39
linux_unix-10I really need a solution. This has happened on every Ubuntu release and distro that my system has run since 10.04.08:40
sgo11hi, can I use ufw redirect all traffic from port 80 to port 3128? I see there are examples on how to do this in iptable online. thanks.08:41
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  showed 'full screen command line' = You mean the alt-ctrl-f1 through F6 Consoles?08:41
otakvim.basic has more features like syntax highlighting, when you install it changes symlinks like sudo update-alternatives08:41
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  and you get bac to X with alt-ctrl-f7 (or restarting X)08:42
pogiakohello08:42
linux_unix-10YES!08:42
pogiakohow do i make chrome to adjust its size depending on how i want my window to be big?08:42
pogiakolike on windows?08:42
linux_unix-10hmm, so that's how you go back to X...08:42
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  X runs on tty7 by default - normally08:43
wilee-nileepogiako, same way from the edge or the buttons top panel.08:43
pogiakowhen i resize it, i have to release my mouse before i even get to see the result whereas in windows as you resize it it shows you already the result08:43
pogiakou know how u resize windows in Windows?08:43
wilee-nileepogiako, Ubuntu does not have the empty resize08:43
linux_unix-10Dr_Willis: how can this problem be solved?08:43
pogiakou can see change as ur resize it08:43
pogiakothats what i want so i no longer need to unclick the mouse just to see what my window looks like08:44
pogiakoinstead of showing me this orange background, i want it to be like Windows'08:44
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  i would suggest checking askubuntu.com on how to install the drivers for your chipset.  and the ubuntu forums.wiki page. I dont see how installing a 'source' package would cause X to crash at all. or how any wireless drivers would affect X at all.08:45
phyphorpogiako: http://askubuntu.com/questions/291386/how-do-i-enable-live-window-resizing-in-ubuntu-13-0408:45
phyphorI believe it's the same in 13.1008:45
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  what ubuntu release are you currently useing?08:45
pogiakois compiz stable?08:45
pogiakoi've had problems with it and is the reason why i had to reinstall ubuntu for a couple of times lol08:46
ObrienDavepogiako I have no problems updating windows on the fly. but, I run Xubuntu ;)08:46
pogiakobtw, how is 13.10 guys?08:46
pogiakoam still on 0308:46
pogiako04*08:46
pogiakolast time i installed .10, it had bugs in it08:46
wilee-nileepogiako, You must free yourself from the binds of the windows OS in ubuntu grasshopper.08:47
pogiakohaha08:47
Dr_Willispogiako:  all software has bugs in it.08:47
ObrienDaveLOL grasshopper08:47
pogiakono i mean08:47
pogiakoi just want that resizing stuff08:47
phyphorpogiako: you've been given two ways to get it08:47
cfhowlettpogiako, read more ...08:48
pogiakoespecially that i'm mkaing site08:48
pogiakomaking*08:48
Dr_Willispogiako:  i would think thats a feature of the window manager more then anything else..  i  cant really recall seeing it ever used.08:48
Dr_Willisxfce seems to do it that way.08:48
phyphorDr_Willis: it's different in Xubuntu, and it can ebe changed using Compiz, both of which have been suggested08:48
pogiakocoz i find it annoying to unclick it before i get to see changes i make on the site am doing08:49
donkarlohello08:49
ObrienDavelove my Xubuntu ;)08:49
pogiakohow is Xubuntu btw?08:49
ObrienDaveLOVE IT!08:49
pogiakoheard its awesome, from Spatry if anyone here knows him, lol probably08:49
donkarlothis is killing, I cant see my ubuntu desctop, when starting the computer it says Disconnected from plymouth08:50
ObrienDave'nuff said08:50
pogiakowhat does xubuntu have?08:50
pogiakocompare ubuntu from xubuntu ;)08:50
ObrienDaveXubuntu is Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment. That's all08:50
cfhowlettObrienDave, well, and a different set to default apps08:51
ObrienDaveok, ok, small details08:51
angson what case, a wifi interface is named "rename4"?  normally they are named wlan0, wlan1, ...08:51
donkarlosomeone answer me please08:52
cfhowlett!patience|donkarlo,08:52
ubottudonkarlo,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/08:52
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | donkarlo08:52
ubottudonkarlo: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:52
ObrienDaveI run kde and gnome services on startup. I can run anything you can PFFFFFT ;)08:52
freddddiiiiI am having an extremely annoying issue. Every boot my keyboard will not work until three minutes have passed, when asked to enter passphrase at encryption unlock. This has not always been the case and I do not know what is causing it. I tried to find logs but could not find the appropriate log file to diagnose.08:53
pogiakoalso08:53
pogiakoi can see that ubuntu has  small wifi range08:53
pogiakocomparing it to fedora08:53
pogiakothats a downside to it08:53
pogiakoall in all, its cool ;)08:54
Dr_Willisif the kernels are the same.. the drivers should be the same.. i dont see why the range would differ08:54
pogiakoonly the wifi range upsets me08:54
pogiakoit does differ08:54
ObrienDavepogiako WIFI range has NOTHING to do with the OS you're running LMAO08:54
Dr_Willisunless theres some wonky power saveer mode kicking in.08:54
pogiakowhen i use fedora, i get a longer range08:54
donkarloDr_Willis: I dont understand. What do u think I should do to have my desktop back and create some backups?08:54
pogiakohaha08:54
pogiakothats the case with me lol08:54
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  you could boot to text mode to get to files. and try to fix things cvia the command line08:54
Dr_Willis!text | donkarlo08:54
ubottudonkarlo: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode08:54
pogiakowhenever i use fedora, or mint i get a longer range of wifi08:55
ObrienDaveok fine, whatEVER08:55
cfhowlettpogiako, no need to repeat, we saw it the first time08:55
* Dr_Willis has his doubts also on that.08:55
donkarloI hate Ubuntu08:55
pogiako;)08:55
cfhowlettdonkarlo, feel free to not use it.08:55
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  demand a refund?08:55
ObrienDaveLOL foss software08:56
pogiakowhere can i get themes for my ubuntu?08:56
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donkarloU are using then it goes black and you dont have any Idea what to do08:56
pogiakodonkarlo: haha happened to me lol08:56
pogiakoso annoying08:57
pogiakowhat happened anyway?08:57
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  we suggested trying the NOMODESET option. which often fixs the black screen issue. Or using TEXT mode to try to trouble shoot things.. theres no magic 'do this' command08:57
donkarloIt was working slow I tried to change  NVidia driver, I restarted and now it says disconnected from plymouth08:57
Dr_Willissounds lik eyour video drivers are broken, use text mode, try to fix them.08:58
Dr_Willisor try nomodeset to see if you get a working desktopo08:58
weaselat.archive.ubuntu.com is broken for me.08:58
ObrienDaveDr_Willis "no magic 'do this' command"??? be still my heart08:58
jnhghywhat is the ubuntu non ubuntu channel?08:58
donkarloDr_Willis: I hope you could understand that I have no idea what you are saying.08:58
weaselwill that be fixed automatically, and/or is there a way to report this?08:58
jnhghyI mean where  i can relax about other things...:)08:59
husnainlatifDr_Willis, Thanks a lot, installing 32-bit libraries worked.08:59
wilee-nileejnhghy, ##linux08:59
ObrienDavejnhghy or #ubuntu-offtopic08:59
jnhghythanks08:59
donkarloDr_Willis: What is NOMODESET ? how can I run it ?08:59
cfhowlett!nomodeset|donkarlo,09:00
ubottudonkarlo,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:00
ObrienDave*face palms and walks away*09:00
linux_unix-10Dr_Willis: sorry, i was away for a while. Anyway, I'm using elementary os luna, based off Ubuntu 12.0409:00
Dr_Willis!nomodeset | donkarlo  for the 2nd time now..09:01
ubottudonkarlo  for the 2nd time now..: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:01
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  they have their own support channels.09:01
donkarloDr_Willis: I dont understand anything. I dont know what grub is and how edit it09:01
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donkarloi think people are sick here09:02
Guest23822hi, for ufw, I have put http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334657/ to before.rules, and then stop ufw and start ufw. it does not work. I can still access websites 80 ports directly in chrome browser. can anyone help? thanks.09:02
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:   time to learn and read the urls given they include screenshots,, or use a live cd. backup your data and reinstall i guess.09:02
Dr_Willistrying the text or nomodeset option is rather quickly done.09:03
cfhowlett!attitude|donkarlo,09:03
ubottudonkarlo,: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines09:03
linux_unix-10those were what i call "unhelpful help" since nobody's responding, i only see connect/disconnect status indicators, nothing else09:03
Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  we cant really support unoffiical ubuntu variants.09:03
* cfhowlett shakes head sadly, reaches for the eject handle ...09:03
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Dr_Willislinux_unix-10:  the ubuntu wikis and askubuntu.com info may still apply . but may need some interperation for the differances in the os's09:04
linux_unix-10well since it's still based on ubuntu and i know there are no drastic differences, the instruction are the same09:04
Guest23822hi, which channel is the best place to ask ufw related questions? thanks.09:05
linux_unix-10only intructions that require unity do not work09:05
linux_unix-10:|09:05
cfhowlettlinux_unix-10, except that we don't support unofficial distros.  AND if your distro doesn't supply help ... why are you using it?09:05
cfhowlettGuest23822, ask here for now ...09:05
Dr_Williselemtary os is nice looking but is a bit of a letdown in many ways.09:06
aeon-ltdGuest23822: #netfilter has iptables(the backend of ufw) related chat09:06
Guest23822aeon-ltd, thanks a lot. I will ask there.09:06
linux_unix-10only Ubuntu distro so far after 10.04 to have a working, persistent, live usb environment09:07
linux_unix-10compared to even "light" distros, it doesn't lag that much09:07
linux_unix-10i've tried a lot, believe me09:08
donkarloDr_Willis: Is there a file I shoud edit to enable nomodeset ?09:09
cfhowlett!nomodeset|donkarlo, please read: full how to enclosed.09:11
ubottudonkarlo, please read: full how to enclosed.: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:11
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  at the grub boot menu. like the guide shows.. you hit 'e' to edit the options09:11
cyclist_2hello, there! my problem began this week and it has ocurred twice -- a few minutes ago being the second time; suddenly, but slowly, the graphics on my monitor begin to de-pixelate [if that is the right word...], turning impossible to read or see the images properly; it is progressive, i.e., it does not reach a peak before a certain time; I tried restarting the GDM  [graphic desktop manager], but that does not solve the problem; only by rest09:12
donkarlowhere is the grub boot menu09:12
cfhowlettcyclist_2, could your monitor/graphics card be failing?09:12
phyphorSo lettin Rhythmbox pick up a year's worth of music has caused my machine to hang. oops09:12
Dr_Willisif you dont see the grub menu by default when you boot up. press and hold the SHIFT key when you boot up to make it show09:13
hornypsycholol09:13
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cyclist_2cfhowlett: alas, I do not know anything about that subject; what do you mean? is it a common problem? if so, how frequent?09:14
donkarloDr_Willis: I think I found what you meant and I pressed e, what should I do now?09:15
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  err..you did read the guide posted above.. it tells you exactly what to edit..09:15
Dr_Willis 'quiet splash'   becomes 'quiet nomodeset splash'09:15
donkarloDr_Willis: I dont really understand it. if you can help me09:15
Dr_Willisthen you boot the modified entry09:15
cyclist_2cfhowlett: about the monitor: I use 2, one is of the laptop and the second is an older one connected to the laptop; but both are affected, so I don't think it is hardware related...09:15
cfhowlettcyclist_2, you didn't describe your hardware, so hazarding a guess based on the behavior your described ... graphics cards handle the picture/images.  they do fail.  monitors get banged around and fail as well.09:15
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  the url even shows a screeshot of what the edited line looks like..09:16
cfhowlettcyclist_2, little details do matter.  could be OS related but I've not encountered it before.  restate your query here from time to time.  Someone else may know.09:16
Dr_Willisand press END keys to position your cursor at the end of the that line usually ending with “quiet splash”.09:16
Dr_WillisNow you can type in additional kernel options like nomodeset (09:16
cyclist_2cfhowlett: is there a test I can perform to find if the graphics card is failing?09:17
cfhowlettcyclist_2, flgrx or similar I think09:17
cfhowlettfglrx09:18
donkarloDr_Willis: I think the pictures are filtered in my country wait ...09:18
* Dr_Willis w8's09:19
* Dr_Willis wonders if youtube has videos of nomodeset...09:19
donkarloDr_Willis: Ok I can see shots now. his grub iis not like mine09:20
donkarloI dont see splash anywhere09:20
Dr_Willisthe line that begins with  'linux .......' is the critical line09:21
karab44hello09:22
karab44is there Mir on 13.10??09:22
cfhowlettkarab44, nope09:22
karab44how can I switch to that?09:22
cfhowlett!mir09:23
ubottuMir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir09:23
cyclist_2cfhowlett: thank you09:23
karab44it was told that there will be choice in 13.10 and next releases would have it by default09:23
karab44oh09:23
RevJoeHow do i install Java?  I downloaded it on my other pc and extracted it  dont know what to do next09:23
cfhowlett!java|RevJoe,09:24
ubottuRevJoe,: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.09:24
karab44I have xorg 100% cpu utilization when moving a mouse so I thought Mir could help me09:24
Dr_Williskarab44:  sounds like a x driver bug. or you are useing the vesa driver.09:25
karab44Nvidia propiretary09:25
karab44yes it could be a bug, I did distro upgrade from 13.0409:25
Dr_Williskarab44:  run nvidia-settings and see if it confirms the driver is in use09:26
karab44I am just wondering is this visible on fresh install but I have too many things on my system to do format09:26
donkarloDr_Willis: I did what it said and after pressing ctrl+x it is just blinking09:26
Dr_Willisto many things - bah.09:26
kn0thingHey guys, I just finished an install of 13.10 on a raid 1 array but the system is failing to boot. I'm getting dropped to the grub rescue screen with an error 'disk mduuid/[somehex]' not found. I can find my partitions (ie. hd0,msdos1) but I get the error "invalid filename `'" when i try and ls (hd0,msdos1). Any thoughts as to how to fix?09:26
Guest23822hi, I execute "sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128". does not work. I can still access websites directly in chrome browser. my 3128 port is squid proxy which deny all outgoing access. thanks.09:27
karab44Dr_Willis: right09:27
Dr_Willisdonkarlo:  you could also try the 'text' mode option to get to a console. same as you did befor only use 'noquiet nosplash text nofb nomodeset ' instead of just  nomodeset09:27
Dr_Willisbbl.. got a job to do.09:27
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vxl_ing ubuntu 12.04, I installed squid in it I want to configure that could anyone help me in that09:32
cfhowlett!squid09:33
ubottusquid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org09:33
ReCXyhi09:38
karab44can I just simply downgrade xorg? from 13.10 to 13.04?09:38
meetwhen will the next intel graphics installer be released supporting  13.10?09:39
cfhowlett!intel09:40
vxl_ing ubuntu 12.04, I installed squid in it I want to configure that could anyone help me in that09:41
meetcfhowlett, that did not return anyting .. ?09:42
ctrlbytevxl_: What do you need help with?09:42
RevJoeAnyone here do BTC Mining with this ?09:42
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vxl_I got struck in configuring squid3 in ubuntu09:42
vxl_ctrlbyte,09:43
ctrlbytevxl_: what part of the config did you get stuck at?09:43
RevJoeWhats the command to make it showing who is entering and exiting?09:44
cfhowlettmeet  nothing.  sorry.09:45
cfhowlettRevJoe, depends on your chat client.  I can tell you about xchat ...09:45
wilee-nileeRevJoe, You want to bless them going both ways? ;)09:45
vxl_I allowed  "http_access allow localnet" in squid but still im unable to access  it by configuring the ip in firefox09:46
vxl_ctrlbyte,09:46
ctrlbytegive me a second vxl_09:46
vxl_sure09:46
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ctrlbytevxl_: did you restart squid? sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart after you made the config changes?09:48
vxl_ctrlbyte, ya I did that09:48
ctrlbytevxl_: can you paste your config?09:49
vxl_ya sure09:49
vxl_http://pastebin.com/2NJ6z8Hs09:50
vxl_you can check the  config in above link09:51
vxl_ctrlbyte,09:51
vxl_ctrlbyte, http://pastebin.com/2NJ6z8Hs09:51
RevJoe!xchat09:52
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines09:52
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milamber!squid | vxl_09:55
ubottuvxl_: squid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org09:55
milambervxl_: your config doesn't look right. you allow localnet, but i don't think you set localnet properly higher up09:55
karab44I found out that using my logitech G5 causes xorg to use 100%cpu but when I use bluetooth mouse it acts normally. How is that?09:56
karab44Any hints to fix that?09:56
vxl_milamber, let me follow the steps which you have provided and then09:58
RevJoe_Howdy10:00
karab44Hey Joe10:00
RevJoe_Just getting this laptop setup and this feels like using a mac all over10:01
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nils-is that a good thing or a bad thing?10:02
RevJoe_i hate apples lol10:03
RevJoe_but this software is better for what i need it to do though10:03
RevJoe_than a windows based10:03
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: why, because the non-running and running apps are in a dock?10:05
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nils-never been a fan of unity personally, haven't tried it in a while though10:08
RevJoe_i need to beable to use bitminter for myself and backtrack for work.10:08
etfbIs there anyone lurking who can help me get Unity working properly on my laptop? I tried upgrading my Nvidia drivers and now I have the usual login screen but then I just get a black screen with a mouse cursor when I log in.10:09
oO0Oowhen i run  /bin/sh -c 'recode  windows-1256 "'\''/home/ariyan/a.srt'\''"' it says file not found but file is there and running the command in a terminal window works; Why?10:09
etfbWait, no... now I have the desktop and no dash or top menu bar.10:10
etfbIt's an improvement at least...10:10
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: backtrack support is in #backtrack-linux10:10
themhzhp scanjet 200 how to install on ubuntu 12.04?10:11
themhzscanner*10:13
excognacikonia: hi, did you find anyting useful?10:14
ikoniaexcognac: a few things, mostly around the intel modules in xorg and their versioning, although nothing to explain why you're display is so messed up with vesa10:14
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:19
e11bitsj10:20
OnkelTemHi. I have a set of images from which I need to create PDF and then comment images and send to my partner who may use Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is there a tool for Ubuntu for doing this?10:20
excognacikonia: if it helps,i run on this acer-aspire5570 laptop kubuntu12.04 kde ppa, and it also had trouble with the samsung display. Also,  when i could use gui on the problematic one, it was because of lightdm. however all effects were trouble, it sicked to Xrender and there was no way to cange it OpenGL10:20
excognacikonia: *sticked10:20
cfhowlettOnkelTem, libreoffice will export .pdf10:21
SPEEDWAVEhow to flashdns in ubuntu 12.0410:22
e11bitssince 13.10. the initialization of my usb camera takes about 10 to 15 seconds. On 13.04 this wasn't noticeable  (or at least did take only a few seconds). This happens when lightdm presents the login screen AND during login. When I remove the camera the delay is gone. What bit is responsible for the delay, so that I can file a bug report? (Or how can I find out?)10:23
ActionParsnipe11bits: I suggest you report a bug10:24
e11bitsActionParsnip: Yes, but I'm not sure which package to choose for the bug report10:25
timstermaticHi all. I've just upgraded to 13.10 and all of my Apache2 mod rewrites have stopped working. Has anyone else had similar issues.10:26
timstermaticI've tried a2enmod and it's already loaded10:26
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Ny0hi to all. I would like to setup ubuntu as an AP Repeater. does anyone knows how to do that?10:28
excognacikonia: do you advice me to try to install 13.10 then? Don't get me wrong, i'm not inpatient butmy colleagues are not super happy that we bought a fancy new machine and  it hasn't been setup yet.10:28
ikoniaexcognac: what maybe interesting (something I was going to ask about) was if you could install 13.10 and dump the xorg config10:28
excognacikonia: you mean i install it and paste you it's xorg.config?10:29
excognac*ts10:30
MrQuistWe should create a new e-mail protocol. One that is secure, where signatures are linked to adresses, where everything is automatically encrypted, where no double information is sent, and where we will get rid of "RE:" or "FW:" emails. Look at it as "Conversations". Open up a "Conversation" with users, and all messages will be stored in there. Kind of like a forum, but for business use, webservers, and, ofcourse, all open-sourced. Who's with me?10:33
MrQuistget rid of SMTP / EMAIL!10:33
nils-MrQuist: write up an RFC10:33
MrQuistmost of all pop10:33
MrQuistI suck at writing RFC'10:33
MrQuists10:33
nils-people still use POP?10:33
MrQuistyes.10:33
MrQuistYou'd be scared if you heard the amount of internet users using POP3.10:33
MrQuistwith Outlook Express10:34
columbWhy every ubuntu update is so painful? After recent 13.10 update my unity is missing and I already tried to reinstall compiz and ubuntu desktop. Any other ideas?10:34
MrQuistcolumb, its like upgrading from win 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> xp -> 7 -> 810:34
MrQuistthere usually is crap happening. Clean install is always better10:35
RevJoe_So having ubuntu installed how doi update my graphics drivers since the toshiba website doesnt have linux drivers10:35
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columbAt least XP haven't bugged me to update it after Vista release.10:35
MrQuistRevJoe_, you're lost10:35
MrQuistthere probably are no drivers10:36
MrQuistand if there are,  they are general buggy drivers that you10:36
ActionParsnipcolumb: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user to test, log in as the new user, is it ok?10:36
MrQuistwill have to compile yourself10:36
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: what video chip?10:36
RevJoe_Intel® Sandybridge Mobile10:36
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:36
MrQuistis that a GPU..?10:36
columbActionParsnip, how do I switch to "Guest" account? It's enabled.10:36
Swarnavahi i bought a dell laptop which came preinstalled with ubuntu, i installed windows 8 in separate partion but after installing the windows 8, icant log in to my ubuntu anyymore10:37
Swarnavacan anyone help me?10:37
ActionParsnipMrAlexandro: Intel drivers are part of the default install and Intel love supporting Linux10:37
cfhowlettSwarnava, yep10:37
MrQuistSwarnava, you should do it the other way around..10:37
ActionParsnipcolumb: make a new user10:37
cfhowlettSwarnava, now you'll have to reinstall grub10:37
Ny0I would like to setup ubuntu as an AP Repeater. does anyone knows how to do that?10:37
ActionParsnipMrQuist: Intel drivers are part of the default install and Intel love supporting Linux10:37
MrQuistSwarnava, ubuntu creates a dualboot for windows / ubuntu. Windows isn't that kind, and throws away the ubuntu bootloader and won't let you load it.10:37
cfhowlettSwarnava why?  cuz windows overwrote your boot loader10:37
cfhowlett!grub10:38
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub210:38
ActionParsnipMrQuist: yes, SandyBridge CPUs have an inbuilt INtel GPU10:38
MrQuistWow, didn't know that. Im an AMD user10:38
ActionParsnipMrQuist: so how is RevJoe_ 'lost'?10:38
MrQuistSince 80% of the GPU's arent (properly) supported by ubuntu10:38
MrQuistor the other way around10:38
ActionParsnipMrQuist: most GPUs are supported, your installcomes with a tonne of video drivers installed by default10:39
MonkeyDu1tSwarnava  first install windows, then ubuntu, as windows ruins grub and you must repair it10:39
RevJoe_p755-s5380 is what i am using10:39
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MrQuistMonkeyDu1t, thats not gonna help him. Swarnava you should install GRUB10:39
Guest23822any squid users here? I am getting crazy with one issue. I have spent a whole day. no luck. squid channel is in sleep mode. THANKS.10:39
MrQuistGRUB can let you boot windows or ubuntu10:39
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:39
SwarnavaMrQuist: okay thanks all10:39
Swarnavai am checking those documentation10:39
Swarnavathanks for help :)10:40
Swarnavamuch apricate10:40
RevJoe_no idea what you are asking action10:40
Swarnavaappriciate*10:40
MrQuist:)10:40
cfhowlettGuest23822, also check in the #ubuntu-server channel10:40
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: copy the command and press CTRL+ALT+T   paste the comamand there and press ENTER10:40
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: what is output?10:40
Guest23822cfhowlett, thanks. I did that. ubuntu-server seems in sleep mode too.10:40
Guest23822nobody says a single word.10:40
cfhowlettGuest23822, all those sysadmins must be asleep under the server10:41
RevJoe_i am using 13.1010:41
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: what does the command output please10:42
RevJoe_Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l10:42
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: thats' all I asked for....when someone asks 'what is the output' they want the actual output, not an interpretation10:42
RevJoe_i know i amdumber than shit on this10:43
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: its following instructions..in English10:44
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: ok, so when you log in, what is the graphical issue you are having?10:45
RevJoe_i just installed this tonight while im here at work i have no idea the lingo for linux10:45
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: again, reread, what I am asking is what you see with your eyes, nothing technical.10:46
excognacikonia: installing now 13.10 Kubuntu(sic!), pasting you the /etc/X11/xorg.conf asap ok?10:47
ActionParsnipRevJoe_: why do you always haveto say "im not good with Linux" despite what I am asking you to describe is what you see onscreen, as long as you have some sort of vision, you are technical enough10:47
excognaclol10:47
sam113101are the socket files on ubuntu only for unix sockets or are they also used for other kinds of sockets?10:49
donkarlohello my ubuntu machine doesn't boot. I mean after the choosing the operating system, it shows me mohammad-desktop login: _10:49
BluesKajActionParsnip. you scared him off with your technical response :)10:49
donkarlowhat should I do ?10:49
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ActionParsnipBluesKaj: looks like it10:49
excognacwas epic still10:50
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: "I cant say what's happening onscreen as I am not 100% fluent with my OS"...weirdest attitude10:50
BluesKajlinux lingo , heh10:50
BluesKajdefeated before even trying10:51
dannymicheli use "back in Time' to basically backup my whole '/' root folder and whole '/home' folder. i want to be able to have my  install the exact same way it was in case anything goes down, but i remember someone saying that wasnt enough10:51
dannymichelsomeone said i need to make a script to backup the names of my packages or something?10:51
donkarlohello my ubuntu machine doesn't boot. I mean after the choosing the operating system, it shows me mohammad-desktop login: _10:51
sam113101donkarlo: enter your login10:51
dannymichelso the apps that i had installed will restore as well?10:51
donkarlosam113101: I did, so what should I do now?10:52
excognacin 13.10 kubuntu fresh install if separate / and /home and swap all should be primary partitions, right?10:52
sam113101donkarlo: did you also enter your password?10:52
donkarloyes10:52
ActionParsnipexcognac: doesnt make any difference at all10:53
llutzdannymichel: "dpkg --get-selections >mypackages.list"10:53
donkarlosam113101: I can login as root too, but where  is desktop, it happens all in a huge black screen10:53
sam113101donkarlo: type "startx"10:54
dannymichelllutz: is that a way to automate some list of applications i have installed periodically?10:54
excognacActionParsnip: swap area should be set Location for new partiton> end?10:54
donkarlosudo startx ?10:54
ActionParsnipexcognac: it doesnt matter, as long as it exists10:54
sam113101not sudo10:54
ActionParsnipdonkarlo: no, that will runXOr as root which is far from smart10:54
MonkeyDustdannymichel  this is another way to do it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335092/10:55
bignonoatbuntu5how can i update the package manager ? sudo apt-get no go10:55
llutzdannymichel: make a cronjob of it, "@daily dpkg --get-selections >$(date +'%Y%m%d'-packages.list)10:55
bignonoatbuntu5using ubuntu 510:55
ActionParsnipbignonoatbuntu5: how do you mean by "update the package manager" ?10:55
donkarlosam113101: I ran startx and it gives me bunch of out put finishing with xinit: server error10:56
bignonoatbuntu5old buntu10:56
cfhowlettbignonoatbuntu5, time to upgrade then.  your ubuntu has reached end of life and is no longer supported10:56
MonkeyDustbignonoatbuntu5  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:57
Paulus68_1llutz: how do you re install the packages that you have in that package list?10:57
bignonoatbuntu5i dont give up so easy10:57
bignonoatbuntu5thanks MonkeyDust10:57
ActionParsnipbignonoatbuntu5: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:57
bignonoatbuntu5Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l10:58
llutzPaulus68_1: dpkg --set-selections <packages.list && apt-get -u dselect-upgrade10:58
BluesKajdonkarlo. try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade10:59
ActionParsnipbignonoatbuntu5: dude you are so far behind. You will get a more stable OS and faster if you do a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 201710:59
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Paulus68_1llutz: thanks10:59
donkarloBluesKaj: What would that do ?10:59
MonkeyDustbignonoatbuntu5  Breezy has been a corpse for a long time now11:00
cfhowlettbignonoatbuntu5, you might find the 12.04 lubuntu or xubuntu makes your machine run like new11:00
excognacany rumors about next LTS?11:00
cfhowlett!lts11:00
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)11:00
cfhowlett!tahr11:00
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts11:00
bignonoatbuntu5i know yes but this crapy laptop keeps crashing on me so i said i try something really old11:00
BluesKajOnkelTem. upgrade your packages and bring any fixes in11:01
sam113101donkarlo: did you install ubuntu server instead of ubuntu desktop, lol? because I don't see why you'd end up with no display manager11:01
cfhowlettbignonoatbuntu5, --- that's one kind of logic11:01
bignonoatbuntu5the problem is in the gpu11:01
ActionParsnipexcognac: its called Trusty Tahr and is version 14.0411:01
cfhowlettsam113101, you might have hit it!11:01
excognacActionParsnip: planned release date?11:02
MonkeyDustexcognac  april 201411:02
cfhowlett!trusty11:02
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu.  See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info.11:02
excognacMonkeyDust:  cool11:02
cfhowlettbignonoatbuntu5, you're not giving any workable information but ... using a dead and done distro is not advised.  If you decide to go that way, expect little in the way of support.  and check out lubuntu and xubuntu11:03
bignonoatbuntu5i guess its stupid yes, so its lubuntu then11:04
donkarlosam113101: no, I was using ubuntu 12.04 for months tody I installed fluxbox, then I didnt like it, i returned back to ubuntu I wanted to update the display driver, I chose something like NVIDIA 314 etc, and it was in middle of some updates that I restarted, and from then I end up to these black screens after choosing ubuntu az my operating system in boot menu11:05
cfhowlettbignonoatbuntu5, xubuntu and lubuntu are both optimized for older and lower spec devices.  xubuntu is arguably the more mature distro11:05
bignonoatbuntu5xubuntu?11:05
donkarlosam113101: I have very important PHP and mysql projects on this machine. help me if you can11:05
cfhowlett!xubuntu|bignonoatbuntu5,11:06
ubottubignonoatbuntu5,: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels11:06
cfhowlett!lubuntu|bignonoatbuntu5,11:06
ubottubignonoatbuntu5,: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.11:06
bignonoatbuntu5oh , that one11:06
bignonoatbuntu5i did use it11:06
zetheroo1I am trying to install Samba 4 from the repositories on Ubuntu 12.04 but the install finishes with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335128/11:07
sam113101donkarlo: you restarted your computer in the middle of an update?11:07
bignonoatbuntu5thank you all , will give xfce a shot , cheers11:07
donkarlosam113101: yes, unfortunately11:07
cfhowlettdonkarlo, unwise11:07
donkarlocfhowlett: it was by a mistake, hppened suddenly,11:08
cfhowlettdonkarlo, suggest you finish your updating process.  go into text mode, run it. reboot.  you might be surprised11:09
donkarlocfhowlett: how can I go to text mode?11:09
cfhowlett!text11:10
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode11:10
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donkarlocfhowlett: right now it has written donkarlo@mohammad-desktop^$   maybe I am already in text mode, Am I?11:12
lesshastehow do you tell the resolution of a jpg?11:13
nils-count the pixels11:14
lesshasteis it something like "type" from the command line?11:16
lesshasteah.. file11:17
MonkeyDustlesshaste  try    identify [file]11:17
lesshasteMonkeyDust, thanks.. file worked too11:18
jjavaholicIn 13.10 where do you go to change the default file manager app?11:19
ActionParsniplesshaste: i believe imagemagik can tell you11:25
lesshasteActionParsnip, :) thanks.. file worked too11:26
ActionParsniplesshaste: coolio11:26
excognacikonia: i tried to pastbin for you the output of sudo X -configure but i couldn't: it says Number of created screens does not match with the number of devices Configuration failed11:29
ikoniaexcognac: yeah, it's not going to work like that11:29
excognacikonia: although, gui looks smooth and nice.  so what shall i do? just use this is install as it were stable?11:31
ikoniagive me a minute11:31
excognack11:33
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kn0thingHey guys, is stable-4.3 meant to compile stubdom cleanly? I'm getting a compilation error that doesn't look like a bad build environment (fbfront.c:108:5: error: format ‘%u’ expects argument of type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 5 has type ‘long unsigned int’ [-Werror=format=] )11:33
MonkeyDustkn0thing  sure you're asking in the right channel?11:34
kn0thingOh wait, sorry11:34
ikoniaexcognac: ok, sorry, where are you up to, you've got 13.10 installed and its "ok" correct ?11:35
kn0thingActually, whilst i'm here. Is there any reason why the xen packages for ubuntu are missing like half the tools?11:35
excognacikonia: it looks like. how do i convince ourselves?11:35
ikoniaexcognac: well, is it running ok, in general,11:36
excognacikonia: yap. don't really know how to test. try to suspend or so?11:37
ikoniano no lets not get that far ahead, I'm just talking about visual working11:37
excognacikonia: cube animation works, resolution everything looks nice in gui11:38
ikoniaexcognac: ok, so lets try to get that as a "basic" configuration, you're still in kubuntu right ?11:38
excognacikonia: yes11:39
ikoniaexcognac: ok, so lets stop kdm, "sudo service kdm stop" and generate the xorg.conf file again as we did before "sudo X -configure"11:40
excognacikonia: so go to text mode?11:40
ikoniaexcognac: correct11:41
cgtAfter upgrading to 13.10 I get boxes instead of letters in evince's GUI (though not in the documents I open with it)11:41
excognacikonia: kdm unrecognized service11:42
excognacso i do lightdm?11:42
ikoniaooh, is it lightdm, sorry11:43
ikoniayes11:43
ActionParsnipcgt: have you tried other doc viewer apps?11:45
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cgtActionParsnip: no11:46
excognacikonia: it says: (++)Using config file: "/home/<user>/xorg.conf.new" (==)Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" Number of detected screens does not match the number of detected devices. Configuration failed. (EE) Server terminated ewith error (2). Closing log file.11:48
cgtIt just seems weird. It shouldn't mess up characters like that.11:48
cgtDoesn't happen in any other app11:48
excognacikonia: (i copied this manually from the other computer's screen) it lists drivers before this message. you want the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?11:49
parparazacHello. I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. My problem is the following. I have a folder containing many files in many subfolders and subsubfolders. I would like to create a new folder containing all the files and just the files (none of the subfolders). How do you do this? If there are different ways to do it, I prefer the easiest one (not from terminal).11:51
reisioparparazac: find folder/ -type f -exec mv -n {} ~/newfolder/ \;11:52
ikoniaexcognac: hmmm, that's interesting11:52
ikoniaexcognac: so it didn't make the xorg.conf.new as before then11:53
parparazacreisio: is that exactly what i type in the terminal?11:53
excognacikonia: yeah. well, as i understand this version knows something is messed up but it works11:53
parparazacreisio: Is there a way to do it not from terminal? like an app or something?11:53
reisioparparazac: substituting 'folder/' and '~/newfolder/' as desired, yes11:53
ikoniaexcognac: can I have a look at the xorg.conf.new it created11:53
reisioparparazac: it's really safer from a terminal11:53
mIKEjONESholy hell, ubuntu is getting worse and worse with each release11:53
ikoniaexcognac: I'm assuming this is because parts have been split out into xorg.conf.d11:54
parparazacdoes that move or copy the files?11:54
reisioparparazac: mv is for moving11:54
parparazaci want to copy11:54
reisioparparazac: okay, cp -n instead of mv -n then11:54
reisioparparazac: find path/to/folder/with/files/ -type f -exec cp -n {} /path/to/newfolder/ \;11:55
excognacikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/633532211:55
ikoniaexcognac: whoaaa this time it thinks there are 3 displays11:55
excognacikonia: i rofled11:56
ikoniaexcognac: with 4 monitors !11:56
parparazacok i will go try that, thanks11:56
mIKEjONESdoes ubuntu go through any sort of quality control anymore?11:56
mIKEjONESlike _any_?11:56
ikoniamIKEjONES: there are other distros if you don't like ubuntu, ranting in here won't change anything so please don't11:56
lesshasteI would like to zero-out unused memory pages to reduce the size of VM snapshots. The hypervisor saves all non-zero pages in the snapshot, so freed, non-zero, but unused pages are stored in the snapshot when they needn't be.11:57
lesshasteis this possible?11:57
ikoniaexcognac: ok, so the card settings are different, this is all intereting to  me as I've not usd the "on cpu" graphics before with xorg, certainly not in any real detail11:57
mIKEjONESikonia: unfortunately its appeal to non-linux users has made this abomination of an OS a standard11:57
nils-I'm wondering, can I put up some sort of message on the regular console login screen (where it says Ubuntu $version $hostname $tty)?11:57
ikoniamIKEjONES: as I said, you're free to chose a different distribution, but complaining in here won't do anything so, please don't continue11:58
mIKEjONESI'm on my 3rd reinstall of 13.10 this week11:58
mIKEjONESfirst installing ia31-libs-multiarch packages destroyed my system11:58
mIKEjONESto the point that I could even launch a shell anymore11:58
ikoniamIKEjONES: stop11:58
ikoniamIKEjONES: if you want help, ask a support question, if you want to complain, this is not the channel11:59
excognacmIKEjONES: raging here won't help11:59
mIKEjONESikonia: I'm trying to be helpful and provide feedback to the developers11:59
ikoniamIKEjONES: as I said, this is not the channel for it11:59
mIKEjONESlike, they should probably consider total and complete career changes11:59
ikoniamIKEjONES: final warning - please stop11:59
mIKEjONESikonia: alright, but I would very strongly suggest looking at what nvidia-opencl-dev & opencl-headers do to X12:00
ikoniaexcognac: from my point of view, I don't see why it's detecting the on cpu graphics so many times12:00
ikoniaexcognac: I'm not sure how much of a problem that's actually creating, but it doesn't seem good12:00
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excognacikonia: it has a fancy BIOS with 5000000 settings.12:01
guest1010hey guys one quick question, can i test a malware using ubuntu on vmware without actually harming my host pc?12:01
ikoniaexcognac: no doubt.12:01
ikoniaguest1010: if you are careful and isolate the guest yes12:02
parparazacreisio: it says missing argument for -exec12:02
guest1010by isolate you mean not have a shared folder? ( im sort of new to this :/12:02
ikoniaexcognac: two things stick out in your current situation 1.) the version of the intel module that ships with 12.04/13.10 - and what/how it supports 2.) the terible detection of multiple devices12:03
reisioparparazac: then you copied it wrong12:03
mIKEjONESikonia: it's infuriating spending 20 hours rebuilding a ton of packages from scratch only to have some poorly maintained package come buy and completely wreck a system to the point that you can't log in with lightgdm12:03
mIKEjONESand opencl pacakages are likely to be used by people in the scientific community12:03
Xecuteranyone here using Ubuntu 13.10 on a Macbook Pro? I'm having several problems, firstly, I can't seem to install wifi-drivers. Secondly, there are lots of graphical glitches around, haven't installed any proprietary drivers yet.12:05
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parparazacreisio: find /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/ \;12:05
__raven_13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve12:06
parparazacreisio: what's wrong?12:06
excognacikonia: shall i put it on lauchpad? shall i try to use it but keep here my private laptop in case it collapses?12:06
reisioparparazac: looks fine to me12:06
parparazacbut i get >>>  find: manca l'argomento per «-exec»12:07
parparazacmissing argument for exec12:07
ikoniaexcognac: if you want to put it on launchpad sure, I'm sure we can work it through, it's an interesting learning experience for me too12:07
reisioparparazac: try it just up to and including -type f12:08
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parparazacthat works, it gives me a list of all files12:08
excognacikonia: ok let's work it through if you have time. i don't really need to work now, settingup my new machine looks like an acceptable task. i don't put it on launchpad yet.12:09
reisioparparazac: alright, add -exec file {} \;12:09
ikoniaexcognac: lets ask reisio to play, hes knowledgable and may find this interesting12:09
__raven_13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve12:09
parparazacthat works too, i get the same list with more information (i think)12:10
reisioparparazac: well then -exec cp -n {} /new/path/ \; should also work12:10
excognacreisio: can you help me and ikonia please? on core i5 desktop with cpu integrated graphics xorg thinks i have 4 screens with 3 displays.12:11
ikoniareisio: interesting in something a bit out of the norm ?12:11
reisioparparazac: what's the output of echo $SHELL?12:11
reisioikonia: like what? :p12:11
* reisio reads12:11
excognacikonia: i hope it's not because i set 4 virtual desktops12:11
parparazacreisio: /bin/bash12:11
reisiowhat makes you think Xorg thinks you have 4 screens and 3 displays?12:12
reisioparparazac: should be fine, then12:12
ikoniareisio: been working through this with excognac for a day or so, he's swapping between 12.04 and 13.10, xorg is messed up on 12.04 but it looks like it's a.) detection of the gpu - which is on cpu graphics 2.) the actual intel module from xorg not supporting it12:12
r2d2__bakr2d212:12
excognacreisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335322/12:12
parparazacbut if we changed nothing then i will get the same error12:12
ikoniareisio: when you do the X -configure and it does detection it detects 3 cards at the same pci address and 4 monitor definitinos12:12
reisiowhat happens when you start X without a xorg.conf?12:13
excognacreisio: how do i do that?12:13
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ikoniareisio: 13.10 it works, 12.04 it doesn't, but that appears to be down to the intel module shipped with xorg in 12.04 - but vesa also fails12:13
ikoniaexcognac: you've already done it12:13
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reisiookay, so... try the kernel from the working one with the non-working one?12:14
reisioit could just be the intel driver12:14
ikoniareisio: that was my initial thought, but vesa also failing to actually display anything usable seems odd12:15
parparazacreisio: does the command create the folder fpone or do i need to create it before?12:16
excognacreisio: however, i could have a gui with installing lightdm in 12.04 please note both are kubuntu!12:16
ikoniareisio: I'm partially wondering if because it's detecting 3 cards the auto detection is not picking up vesa to the right address and using one of the other modules, but I'm not convinced by that12:17
reisioparparazac: ah, yes you need to create it beforehand12:17
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reisiowhat about editing this xorg.conf so it isn't crazy? :)12:18
r2d2__h12:18
parparazacreisio: ok i did. but i still get the same error. missing argument for -exec   .  could it be because my ubuntu is in italian?12:18
parparazacmaybe the command is different or something12:19
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reisioparparazac: maybe indirectly, it could be it's mixed up about the chars12:19
ikoniareisio: I've been playing with that with him, but the problem I'm seeing is forcing pci:0:2:0 to vesa doesn't seem to have an impact12:19
parparazacwhat does it mean mixed up about the chars? how do i fix it?12:20
sam113101can you create hard links of directories on ubuntu?12:21
guest1010is it possible to completely isolate my ubuntu guest os from the host in VM even when it comes to rootkits?12:21
ActionParsnipsam113101: yes as long as they are on the same physical disk12:22
ActionParsnipsam113101: symlinks can traverse different drives12:22
sam113101ActionParsnip: ok12:22
sam113101thanks12:22
reisioparparazac: if you wget http://dpaste.com/1436261/plain/ and then run sh on it, that could be useful12:23
reisioguest1010: badware escaping from a VM guest is pretty unheard of12:23
parparazacfind /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/\;12:23
parparazacfind: manca l'argomento per «-exec»12:24
parparazac(missing argument for «-exec») ????12:24
reisioparparazac: that's so far out12:24
guest1010thanks12:24
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parparazacreisio: that's so far out? dont understand what you mean12:24
reisioparparazac: odd12:25
reisioparparazac: how about opening up the file manager, going to the top dir and hitting 'Search'12:25
reisioparparazac: and just putting in '*'12:25
parparazacreisio: i get nothing, not sure i did what you wanted me to though12:28
excognacikonia: reisio thanks for trying to help, i'm afk for max.40 mins. i leave chat on so i don't miss anything12:31
parparazacreisio: it works if i write jpg, but i dont get all files because not all files are jpg12:31
ikoniaexcognac: don't give up yet, I'm just reading more about on board cpu graphics12:31
Michael1234has anyone successfully installed nvidia-opencl/opencl-headers on the latest ubuntu?12:32
parparazacfind /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/\;12:32
parparazacfind: manca l'argomento per «-exec»12:32
parparazac(missing argument for «-exec») ????12:32
reisioparparazac: yeah, what about '**'12:32
parparazacoops12:32
reisioparparazac: um, I mean '*.*'12:33
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parparazacreisio: doesnt work, tried both with and without quotes12:36
reisioparparazac: alright, well maybe someone else can help you with a GUI method12:37
reisioit's not great that your terminal/shell is broken12:38
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parparazacbroken?12:38
parparazacwhy broken?12:38
parparazaceverything works fine on this comp12:38
reisiothe 'find' command doesn't12:38
parparazacyes it worked when we didnt put in the rest of the line, remember?12:39
reisioright, but the rest of the line you need :)12:39
parparazacok well thanks anyways for your help :)12:40
reisioparparazac: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/findwild-is-gui-wildcard-file-search.html maybe12:40
parparazacok12:41
parparazacthanks12:41
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SungamHi, Linux noob here. I installed Ubuntu server on a laptop yesterday and connected it to wifi. I have moved the server to a different network, and want to connect it through ethernet. Is there a command to change the network settings?12:46
cfhowlett!wifi12:47
cfhowlett!wireless12:47
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:47
rorySungam: Look at the file /etc/network/interfaces12:47
rorySungam: See here for the exact syntax of how to define network interfaces http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg16t02.htm12:48
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linux_unix-10hi12:54
cfhowlettlinux_unix-10, greetings12:55
reisiolinux_unix-10: salutations12:55
linux_unix-10I'm trying to install deb files through gdebi, but it keeps saying that there is another package manager running even though none is seen running in top. What should I do?12:56
reisiolinux_unix-10: software center? synaptic?12:56
linux_unix-10I'm using deb files on an external disk12:57
linux_unix-10can you use synaptic for that?12:57
reisiolinux_unix-10: I'm saying make sure they aren't running12:58
linux_unix-10gdebi is the only one running12:59
ActionParsniplinux_unix-10: why would you need to? If you want to install them all just use:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb12:59
linux_unix-10oh12:59
ActionParsnipwaaaaaay easier12:59
linux_unix-10but I need a graphical one12:59
ActionParsniplinux_unix-10: why?13:00
cfhowlettlinux_unix-10, dpkg works.  use it.13:00
linux_unix-10I need it to associate deb files to13:00
ActionParsniplinux_unix-10: why do you 'need' a graphical one?13:00
cfhowlett^^^^ this ...13:00
linux_unix-10thanks for the tip though13:01
ActionParsniplinux_unix-10: why do you 'need' a graphical one?13:01
MonkeyDustlinux_unix-10  paste this line in Terminal, then run gdebi again    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock13:01
ActionParsnip!aptfix13:02
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »13:02
smoothgent83hello13:02
cfhowlettsmoothgent83, greetings13:03
smoothgent83new here13:03
MrQuistHumble greetings to smoothgent8313:03
linux_unix-10maybe that's why, I tried to install a wireless driver, but it failed, miserably13:03
MrQuistnew to #ubuntu? or also to ubuntu?13:03
cfhowlettsmoothgent83, have you an ubuntu problem?13:03
MrQuistyou have* not have you13:03
smoothgent83not yet13:03
MrQuist"do you have" actually13:03
smoothgent83just install yesterday13:04
MrQuisteven better: "Do you experience"13:04
cfhowlettMrQuist, I beg to differ.13:04
MrQuist"Do you experience any Ubuntu related problems?"13:04
smoothgent83no13:04
cfhowlettMrQuist, offtopic, but as an English teacher, I can assure, that structure is acceptable.13:04
linux_unix-10ubottu: do I still include the »'s?13:05
ubottulinux_unix-10: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:05
nils-What is the nature of your ubuntu emergency?13:05
cfhowlett:)13:05
MrQuistit sounds old. It sounds like a Dutch person literally translating words without applying grammar.13:05
MrQuist"Have ye troubles, ol sport?"13:05
linux_unix-10yeah, right... \:)13:06
MrQuistanyhow, lets go to ##linguistics13:06
MasterOfDisasternils-: wasn't the line "State the nature..."?13:06
cfhowlettMrQuist, and yet, he understood it perfectly.  Go figure.13:06
nils-MasterOfDisaster: indeed13:06
MonkeyDust"what do you lack, Sir?"13:06
MrQuistdecency13:06
MasterOfDisasternils-: :D13:06
* cfhowlett ... thinks we just scared away a new user. 13:07
* MrQuist too13:07
__raven_13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve13:10
cfhowlett__raven_, I don't know, but I'm on Ubuntustudio 12.04 and haven't had a single issue with avconv or ffmpeg13:11
emrHello, trying to update my sys. h/e google-chrome-stable and google-talkplugin packages updating very slowly (from dl.google.com) is it any idea?13:12
MasterOfDisaster__raven_: we need more data. reproducable? got a backtrace? any test data?13:12
cfhowlettemr, but it is downloading?  live with it.13:12
excognac ikonia sure, thanks, i'm back13:13
MasterOfDisasteremr: we can't do anything about a lousy connection on your end, sorry.13:13
MonkeyDustwhat's h/e ?13:13
MasterOfDisasterMonkeyDust: typo, most likely13:13
emrcfhowlett, nope i cant say its download, MasterOfDisaster my connection is good on other repos13:14
emrMonkeyDust, h/e however i guess (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/H%2FE)13:15
cfhowlettemr, new one on me.   doubt the h/e is going to see much use ...13:16
KihokkiI tried to download Google Music Manager from google, the download got stuck often so I had to cancel it and then continue downloading it13:16
Kihokkithis happened yesterday13:16
EarloHello, exuse me. I just changed my motherboard and processor. and i was told that i could use Ubuntu after it just fine. But, now when i try to enter, the mouse does not respond at all. It works just fine in bios.13:16
EarloWhat should i do?13:16
emrKihokki, maybe temp. network problem on google side, i hope13:17
LogiI've got some i/o heavy processes failing in odd ways and I suspect that something is wrong with the NFS mount it'sworking on. Is there a suitable test utility for that? My google skills fail me :-/13:17
cfhowlettEarlo, reinstall13:17
MasterOfDisasterKihokki, emr: perhaps it's nsa hogging google's bandwidth.13:17
MonkeyDustLogi  i use NFS, what goes wrong?13:18
emrMasterOfDisaster, :d13:18
Earlook. : /13:18
cfhowlettMasterOfDisaster, ah, man! You NEVER say their name!  There scans ping and they start a new monitoring plug13:18
MasterOfDisasterEarlo: check whether your mouse is detected by running 'dmesg'13:19
EarloMasterOfDisaster, How?13:19
k-josephhi guys13:19
MasterOfDisastercfhowlett: Voldemort! NSA! Bloody Mary! There, you made me do it :D13:19
reisiok-joseph: hi13:19
MasterOfDisasterEarlo: open a terminal, type in 'dmesg' and press enter13:20
cfhowlettMasterOfDisaster, *smite*13:20
k-josephdo 32-bit softwares work on 64-bit OS of ubuntu13:20
k-joseph?13:20
cfhowlettk-joseph, greetings13:20
k-josephreisio, cfhowlett: thanks :)13:20
MasterOfDisasterk-joseph: depends, standalone sw likely, plugins depend on the software they run in to be available as 32 bit version.13:21
cfhowlettk-joseph, they do13:21
EarloMasterOfDisaster, I am not sure if my keyboard is responding either. at least Ctr+Alt+T does not work.13:21
EarloDo i need to be logged in to do that?13:21
MasterOfDisasterEarlo: yes13:22
MrQuistEarlo, weird. Im also not sure if my keyboard works.13:22
reisiok-joseph: the architecture is actually frequently called x86_64, it's backwards compatible13:22
reisiok-joseph: 86 for 32, 64 for 6413:22
k-josephgreat, am advising some one that wants to run eclipse, and i had suggested a 32-bit version, after i learnt that he runs 64-bit13:23
MrQuistEarlo, i think my display is also not working.... Not sure tho.13:23
reisiok-joseph: why's tat13:23
reisiothat*13:23
Earlo /___\13:23
MasterOfDisasterEarlo: look out for a line like this: [260584.020201] input: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.7 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.5/1-1.5.1/1-1.5.1:1.0/input/input2413:23
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MasterOfDisasterk-joseph: eclipse comes as a 64 bit version too, iirc13:24
k-josephthanks guys, am contented, regards reisio, cfhowlett, MasterOfDisaster, etc13:24
liuhello13:25
MasterOfDisasterliu: hi13:25
k-josephMasterOfDisaster: since he is already downloading 32-bit, i i think he can use that one13:25
fengshaunI'm trying to download ubuntu 13.10, but the iso is labeled 12.04!  Is that a mislabel or what?13:26
MasterOfDisasterfengshaun: nope13:26
fengshaunubuntu-12.04.3-desktop13:26
reisiofengshaun: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/13.10/13:27
fengshaunreisio: much better!  Am I missing something on the website?13:27
MonkeyDustfengshaun  there's a bug, if you diabled javascript in you browser, it downloads the wrong version13:27
TalkingMuffinfengshaun: do you know what mirror you grabbed that from?13:27
fengshaunoh13:27
TalkingMuffinMonkeyDust: is that logged?13:28
fengshaunTalkingMuffin: no13:28
MonkeyDustTalkingMuffin  there's a launchpad bug, moment, searching13:28
wyldeTalkingMuffin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/119376113:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 1193761 in Ubuntu Website "Attempting to download the ubuntu desktop iso from ubuntu.com with javascript disabled downloads the wrong version" [Undecided,New]13:28
TalkingMuffinwylde: great, thanks. Just wanted to make sure it was in the right place.13:28
fengshaunoh, the website needs yahooapis to work!  Thanks!13:29
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wylde__raven_, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x264/+bug/1241772 , if you're still here. It's fixed in the proposed repos from what I read.13:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 1241772 in x264 (Ubuntu Saucy) "Miscompilation with gcc 4.8 (segfault in x264_cqm_init)" [High,Fix committed]13:30
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LogiMonkeyDust: It's simply as if the last chunk of some files is missing. It's mostly just weird.13:31
Logi(sorry, got distracted for a moment)13:31
Earlook, now i can't get into bios either. :-l13:31
LogiMonkeyDust: There are other things for me to test out, but a utility that just does a bunch of i/o testing would be useful.13:31
Earlowhat do?13:31
excognacikonia: i'm afk again, will pm u when back13:33
packardbellHey. Where can i find the install-manual from the Ubuntu 13 server ?13:35
packardbellow, nvm. Found it13:36
cfhowlett!manual|packardbell,13:36
ubottupackardbell,: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/13:36
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santo_hi. Hopefully it's possible to get a hand with a minor issue in here :)13:43
cfhowlett!details|santo_,13:44
ubottusanto_,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:44
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santo_my bad. I have an issue with downloading videos from a certain webpage. At this time I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 or so. It seems to be out of my reach to aqquire the wanted video13:46
pacgone&j \archlinux13:46
MonkeyDustsanto_  how do you try to download the video? sure it's not website related?13:47
cfhowlettdownload?  see firefox add-ons to get videos13:47
MonkeyDustsanto_  with firefox, chromium, some other browser?13:48
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santo_I'm wondering if it could be website related due to miner videoclips appearing using software suitable for chrome13:49
santo_files are sized from 625 kb to 2-3mb13:50
MonkeyDustsanto_  si it's with chrome?13:52
MonkeyDustso*13:52
cfhowlettsanto_, probably not a size issue ...13:52
okarin21May be you should try flareget13:52
santo_I mainly use chrome yes, but alongsided chromium and firefox. No size issue, got it. Never heard of flareget13:53
sam113101what's ubuntu's bootsplash?13:54
motaka3hello, my ubuntu 12.04 seems to be very unstable and maybe i loose it the next time I reboot, do you know what I should back up so later I can have ubuntu with the same backups?13:55
linux_unix-10hi13:55
motaka3sam113101: do u remember my problem ?13:56
sam113101motaka3: who are you?13:56
bean__motaka3: i'd just backup your home folder13:56
MonkeyDustmotaka3  rsync -a is a quick way to backup13:56
bean__unless you have service configurations13:56
MonkeyDustokarin21  keep it in the channel please13:56
motaka3sam113101: the who had a blank page with a blinking cursor13:56
linux_unix-10i still can't use gdebi after applying the following commands: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock and sudo dpkg --configure -a13:57
sam113101I vaguely remember13:57
MonkeyDustlinux_unix-10  what happens when you try?13:58
motaka3sam113101: nomodeset didnt work for me, I saw ubuntu had sveral backups in boot list so I tried the last one, now I am in with. but the system is very slow and I think the next reboot I will endup the same problem13:58
bean__motaka3: that sounds like a hardware problem13:59
linux_unix-10http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335810/13:59
motaka3bean__: yes, i think ubuntu doesnt like my graphic card.13:59
bean__motaka3: no, i'm talking about hardware failure, not just a GPU14:00
MonkeyDustlinux_unix-10  if that's elementary os, type /join #elementaryos for support14:00
motaka3bean__: like what ?14:00
bean__motaka3: hard drive, anything really. A computer usually isn't made slow by a GPU14:00
motaka3bean__: will loose ububtu in next boot?14:00
linux_unix-10it's not, just disguised as such so i can receive their custom tweaks and stuff like that14:01
sam113101yeah sounds like a failing hard drive14:01
bean__motaka3: lose* ubuntu*, theres no way of knowing.14:01
linux_unix-10it's still ubuntu 12.0414:01
motaka3bean__: I have windows als on the same PC but it is not slow at all14:01
bean__motaka3: hmm, try installing graphics drivers then if its a non intel card.14:01
bean__linux_unix-10: I'd wager you won't get support from either doing it that way, as no one has the same setup as you in these channels14:02
motaka3bean__: I am doing it. it is NVidia I think14:02
linux_unix-10i can still switch back to original config14:02
linux_unix-10as in pure ubuntu 12.0414:02
linux_unix-10the tweaks will be hidden or disabled14:03
cfhowlettlinux_unix-10, if they don't support the distro, maybe you shouldn't be using it.  choose wisely14:03
linux_unix-10i'm still seein which setup works best14:03
linux_unix-10*seeing14:03
linux_unix-10hold on...14:04
samgabbayHello World!14:05
bean__samgabbay: Feel free to ask any questions you might have14:05
linux_unix-10ok i did it again with pure ubuntu, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335828/14:05
samgabbayi dont need questions im here to help lol14:06
bean__linux_unix-10: how much memory is in that machine?14:06
linux_unix-101GB, it's running off a persistent live usb environment, but i gave it lots of swap on my local hard drive14:07
longviewbitsI have a system with 8GB of RAM in it. Will Ubuntu only see/use 4GB if I stick with the 32-bit distro?14:07
bean__linux_unix-10: it looks like it runs out of memory when you try to do what you're doing.14:07
mar09!list14:08
ubottumar09: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:08
linux_unix-10how can you tell?14:08
cfhowlettlongviewbits, your system can run 64 bit  - so ...14:08
bean__linux_unix-10: it says unable to allocate memory14:08
bean__!pae | longviewbits if you really want to run a 32bit OS14:08
ubottulongviewbits if you really want to run a 32bit OS: To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info14:08
linux_unix-10where does it say that?14:09
linux_unix-10can't find it14:09
bean__linux_unix-10: line 5314:09
linux_unix-10found it14:10
linux_unix-10how do i solve this?14:10
bean__Not sure. It looks like it works the 2nd time?14:10
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bean__wait, nope it doesnt14:10
linux_unix-10i can't add ram,my machine's is a laptop14:10
SuperLagbean__: tmux is acting weird on my work system... (longviewbits == SuperLag) so I'm connected back to home.14:11
bean__SuperLag: Ah okay. yeah if you really need to run 32 bit with > 3.2 GB of ram you can install a PAE kernel.14:12
SuperLagbean__: I don't *really* want to run 32-bit... but I just tried to get Adobe Reader working on my 64-bit system, and it requires a bunch of 32-bit libs, and in installing those... it looked like I *REMOVED* several critical packages on the system.14:12
ActionParsnipSuperLag: PAE will present 3.2Gb per process14:13
okarin21I have 1.5GB of ram with ubuntu 13.1014:13
linux_unix-10bean_: how can i solve this problem?14:13
SuperLagbean__: and I'm just tried of fighting this crap. I just want it to *JUST WORK* and stay the hell out of my way.14:13
cfhowlettokarin21, pretty minimal but it'll workk14:13
samgabbayTeachers these days.14:13
samgabbayteachers these days14:14
samgabbayteachers these days14:14
cfhowlettsamgabbay, stop please14:14
ActionParsnipSuperLag: then use Evince or xpdf etc14:15
SuperLagTime to break out the /ignore. :/14:15
bean__SuperLag: I don't doubt that. there used to be a compatibility layer (ia32-libs) but I'm not sure if that still exists.14:15
SuperLagbean__: no, that's gone14:15
bean__thats what I thought14:15
SuperLagyou have to specify :i386 for the 32-bit versions you want to install14:16
shaharnyhanhow do i reset my keyring phrase in 13.10?14:16
SuperLagI wish 32-bit would just die14:16
SuperLag(already)14:16
bean__SuperLag: :) don't we all.14:16
SuperLagenough of this mix and match crap14:16
samgabbaycfhowlett: stop what?14:16
TheGhostOfLjLsamgabbay: repeating the same (not-really-on-topic) message multiple times, i suppose14:17
cfhowlett^^^^14:17
k5673a14:17
samgabbayTheGhostOfLjL: i thought it simply did not sent14:17
santo_Now, I tested flareget, but no additional help on my issue14:19
excognac i'm trying to set up a network printer. it has an IP adress. if things are correct i should be able to ping it from Konsole (terminal) right?14:19
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: usually yes. Some more fancy printers might have an integrated filter, or some device on the way might drop packets.14:20
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: telnet on the printer's service port should yield some result at least.14:21
excognacMasterOfDisaster: ok, unssuccesful. if router has a usb port, shall i try to connect priter to that? (i'm a hard noob with printers, never in my life set up such thing)14:22
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: which protocol are you using to set it up? ipp?14:24
linux_unix-10is is safe to delete the "lock" file at /var/lib/dpkg? I've tried many methods told to me and none seem to work14:25
andybrineA quick question, Is there a way to automount a hardrive on startup?14:25
reisioandybrine: usually /etc/fstab's task14:25
MasterOfDisasterandybrine: yes14:25
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mar09!list14:26
ubottumar09: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:26
andybrinethanks14:26
MonkeyDustandybrine  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab14:26
shaharnyhanhow do you access/reset/change keyring in 13.10?14:26
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: "telnet <printer ip> 631" yields what?14:26
Guest81939hi all, i have got a twinview setup, but when i launch anything the app is no longer centerd on the screen , it is off to the right edge of the screen , can someone assist14:26
esdewhen I click on a linked resource on a webpage in FireFox and the "Opening" dialogue appears, then select "Open With..." a file browser pops up. It seems there's quite a history of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995 Has any patch or official fix been released?14:26
ubottuUbuntu bug 18995 in One Hundred Papercuts "[MASTER] "Open With" dialog not user-friendly" [Medium,Triaged]14:26
andybrineThanks MonkeyDust :)14:27
esdeThis is especially disappointing since there's a commercial user I'd like to migrate to ubuntu, but they're not savvy enough to find the executable for the application  they want to open a file with.14:27
excognacMasterOfDisaster:  Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out maybe i just but the cable in the wrong hole. i sould use the one with network sing, right? (squares connected with lines)14:29
samgabbay#ubuntu-discuss14:29
excognac* should sign14:29
excognacput14:29
linux_unix-10can i delete "lock" file at /var/lib/dpkg? I can't use gdebi because of it, and i've tried other methods to solve my problem.14:30
SuperLagI'm trying to fix this mess I've made with installing Adobe Reader, and I'm going to reinstall all the packages that were removed. I got that list from the apt history.log14:31
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: -> query14:32
SuperLagI'm just not sure about the sed-fu I need to remove some stuff from this list. language-selector-gnome:amd64 (0.116) <-- how do I remove everything after the ":"?14:32
hitsujiTMOlinux_unix-10: i presume you mean /var/lib/dpkg/lock14:32
excognacMasterOfDisaster: lol no wonder, i'm not dumb just have no experience with printers14:33
Guest81939i am not running compiz, so this should not be happening14:33
hitsujiTMOSuperLag: | grep "^.*:"14:33
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gebbionehi anyway i can see the version of packages when doing at apt-cache just like synaptic?14:35
SuperLaghitsujiTMO: sorry, that didn't work.14:35
SuperLaghitsujiTMO: it still shows the entire line14:35
hitsujiTMOSuperLag: sorry yeah, realised after14:35
hitsujiTMOgebbione: apt-cache show14:35
esdewhen I click on a linked resource on a webpage in FireFox and the "Opening" dialogue appears, then select "Open With..." a file browser pops up. Is there any way to replace that file browser with some sort human-friendly menu?14:35
bgardnergebbione: apt-cache policy packagename14:35
TomyWorkbefore i kill my system: Does "update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/shinyprogram shinyprogram /usr/lib/shinyprogram-1.0/bin/shinyprogram" sound reasonable?14:36
gimmicHow can I manually fire off the debconf script for ldap-auth-config?14:36
gimmicthe installer is supposed to fire it off per documentation but doesn't14:36
gebbioneok i ll try both14:36
SuperLaghitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335983/14:36
wiiguyhello, i have a laptop(HP dv6 2120ed) where i installed ubuntu 12.04 on, but whenever i close the lid and later oen it again, the screen stays black14:37
wiiguywhat can i do about this ?14:37
cfhowlett!suspend|wiiguy,14:37
cfhowlettwiiguy, sounds like a wake from suspend issue14:37
excognacMasterOfDisaster: ok, dont be nervous. it's a fancy Canon i-sensys mf9710, i'm using the right hole. (at least the one where my cable without aid of a hammer) it has menu to set things up. trying to find out the protocoll. i can't see it on my wireless network.14:37
cfhowlett!hibernate14:37
TomyWorkor is it "update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/shinyprogram-1.0/bin/shinyprogram shinyprogram /usr/bin/shinyprogram"?14:38
wiiguyanyway to fix it ?14:38
cfhowlettwiiguy, looking14:38
hitsujiTMOSuperLag: | grep -oh "^.*:"14:38
wiiguyok14:38
MonkeyDustwiiguy  system settings > power > "when the lid is closed, do nothing"14:38
wiiguyMonkeyDust > that way it will just use power the whole time14:39
wiiguywhen closed it should go in standby(that is what i want)14:39
esdeIs it truly assumed everyone using ubuntu desktop "just knows" where the executable for the program they wish to use to open a file is located? This is actually pretty disappointing :(14:39
sam113101what's ubuntu's bootsplash?14:39
MasterOfDisasteresde: that's what $PATH is for...14:40
MonkeyDustwiiguy  ok, then "when the lid is closed, suspend"14:40
sam113101does ubuntu use plymouth?14:40
wiiguylet em try14:40
chro"Package rstudio has no available version, but exists in the database."14:40
wiiguygimme a couple sec14:40
k1lsam113101: yes14:40
MasterOfDisasteresde: or rather the .desktop files for the gui iirc :D14:40
hitsujiTMOsam113101: plymouth is what shows the splashscreen during boot and shutdown14:40
sam113101I thought it used xsplash14:41
esdeMasterOfDisaster, motorcycle mechanics dont have time to open a terminal and find the path to the program they need to use. They need to be able to just click and open files from technical resource sites.14:41
whoeverhi all need some help  with daul display , my launcher is on screen 0. and if i launch libre office  it will show on screen 1, if i launch something that has a splash screen , the splash screen shows on screen 0 and the app opens on screen 1. can someone assist , i think it should all happen on the same screen14:42
esdeI could just imagine the grease laden keyboard now.14:42
hitsujiTMOsam113101: i don't exen think xsplash is in the repos14:42
MasterOfDisasteresde: ah, open a file in the browser? Well, next time lead with that. Have a look at mozplugger14:42
esdeI DID! lopl14:42
wiiguyMonkeyDust > it is already on suspend14:42
esdesee my previous messages14:42
wiiguyand hibernate option is disabled14:42
k1lsam113101: that was ages before plymouth14:42
sam113101k1l: ok14:42
excognacMasterOfDisaster: not sure but i think it uses some sort of http or dhcp or multiply protocols.14:43
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esdeTy MasterOfDisaster this may be what I need14:44
MonkeyDustwiiguy  and you want hibarnation? if yes, this mayb be useful : http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/14:44
gimmicby the way, I had a question earlier14:44
gimmichow to re-run the debconf script14:44
gimmicfor ldap-auth-config.. the answer is: dpkg-reconfigure -plow ldap-auth-config14:45
wiiguylet me read14:45
MasterOfDisasteresde: sorry, didn't want to be mean - I must have missed this.14:45
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esdeMasterOfDisaster, just tested it on a PDF link that I had an issue with before, opens the PDF up right in the browser! Thank you :)14:46
utahconis it a known issue that the pub key is not available to apt for installs?14:46
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SuperLagutahcon: that sounds like a PPA problem :)14:46
utahconSuperLag: Its the main ubuntu archives that are bitching14:47
excognacMasterOfDisaster: it has some sort of SNB and SNmp set on it. shall i turn those off?14:47
MasterOfDisasteresde: Great that I could help :D14:47
SuperLagutahcon: interesting... I use the kernel.org mirrors, so I'm not seeing it14:47
packardbellI want to install a Ubuntu server on my old XP computer. How do i remove the XP software and stuff from my HD ?14:47
hitsujiTMOutahcon: whats the exact error?14:48
MasterOfDisasterpackardbell: during setup, ubuntu will give you the option to wipe your computer.14:48
cfhowlettpackardbell, format it during ubuntu installation : poof.  gone.14:48
packardbellkk. thx14:48
packardbell:)14:48
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utahconW: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40967EAF437D05B514:49
utahconhitsujiTMO: ^14:49
MonkeyDustpackardbell  boot from usb > use gparted to delete XP partition > create new partition and install ubuntu14:49
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: verify that it gets an ip address, the protocol to use with network printers is usually IPP (Port 631)14:49
wiiguyMonkeyDust > hibern ate will just shutdown my laptop without recovering the programs that were running(just tested)14:49
MasterOfDisasterexcognac: don't touch anything else if you don't know what it is.14:50
utahconhitsujiTMO: I get that for us.archivce.ubuntu.com, security, and ppa.launchpad14:50
hitsujiTMOutahcon: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40967EAF437D05B514:50
hitsujiTMOutahcon: then run sudo apt-get update again and you should be fine14:50
MonkeyDustwiiguy  that's odd, the idea of hibernation is to recover running apps14:50
MannerManIm looking for a solution to authenticate around 80 linux servers (centos & ubuntu) centrally, which solution would be suitable? ldap is not required.14:50
packardbellurgh... dam pc won't burn it >.>14:50
wiiguydont think my laptop support it then14:50
angus_hey guys. is mint very different from ubuntu?14:50
CorpusCallosumHi guys i am trying to change my current username but could not do it, can anyone help me out on that?14:50
somsip!mint14:51
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:51
angus_thx somsip14:51
hitsujiTMOCorpusCallosum: create a new account. move your docs over. add it to sudo and what ever groups. then delete the old account14:51
somsipCorpusCallosum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username14:52
CorpusCallosumhitsujiTMO, problem there is too much modification on the current user such as menus, splashes etc14:52
MonkeyDustangus_  plenty reviews, here's one: http://lifehacker.com/5993297/ubuntu-vs-mint-which-linux-distro-is-better-for-beginners14:52
MasterOfDisasterCorpusCallosum: or, if you are very careful, edit /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and move your homedirectory.14:52
hitsujiTMOCorpusCallosum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username   its a dangerous process14:52
angus_thx MonkeyDust14:53
angus_looking at it now14:53
utahconhitsujiTMO: the keyserver connection was refused...14:53
MasterOfDisasterCorpusCallosum: beware though, very dangerous if you mess up.14:53
CorpusCallosumMasterOfDisaster, actually i tried adding new user and copying all home stuff into new user's home directory but dd not work :)14:54
hitsujiTMOutahcon: could be something wrong with that repo ... try changing14:54
MasterOfDisasterCorpusCallosum: did you move the dotfiles too?14:54
rosipovhey #ubuntu, any tip with this guy - http://askubuntu.com/questions/369057/apache-still-running-after-uninstalling14:55
packardbellwhen installing ubuntu via USB. Does the USB has to be empty (besides the .iso) or can i leave my other folders on it?14:55
CorpusCallosumMasterOfDisaster, yes but did not work14:55
CorpusCallosumeven gnome did not open14:55
cfhowlettpackardbell, you can have other files on the usb ...14:55
hitsujiTMOrosipov: how did you install apache2?14:55
packardbelland how do i burn the file? Cause I can only burn it to a CD. Or should i just copy-paste it onto the sticK?14:56
cfhowlett!usb|packardbell,14:56
ubottupackardbell,: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:56
packardbell:)14:56
rosipovhitsujiTMO: idk, it's been preinstalled on a VPS14:58
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jduhh4cwhi14:59
lmatjduhh4cw: hi14:59
hitsujiTMOrosipov: can you run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit15:00
hitsujiTMOrosipov: just post the link here15:00
Radkoshello15:00
MonkeyDusthitsujiTMO  tip: && is not needed here, a ; is enough15:01
helmut_hi15:01
rosipovhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/PwTwgJgR15:02
hitsujiTMOMonkeyDust: i use && so it will gracefully fail if an earlier command fails :P15:02
RadkosI've a problem with suspend on ubuntu 12.04 when a lid is closed or manually activate a suspend command it's going to sleep but the scheduled operation doesn't work15:02
MonkeyDustRadkos  what command do you use? pm-suspend ?15:03
Radkosyes15:03
jduhh4cwHi15:03
MonkeyDustRadkos  as a cron task? is the cron syntax correct?15:04
hitsujiTMOrosipov: whats the output of: ls -l /usr/sbin/httpd15:04
yesyayenhi, as Ubuntu One is present in the right side of global menubar, how to add our application there? how to deploy the code?15:05
RadkosI didn't check that but I think it should be since I made a fresh install when find out on live session ot suspends but after install the problem didn't solve15:05
GAYLORDHi, I have a small problem15:05
rosipovhitsujiTMO: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4503379 Oct 30 18:54 /usr/sbin/httpd15:05
MonkeyDustRadkos  how do you schedule it?15:06
Radkosshould I check the default cron configuration or the user's one15:06
h00kyesyayen: those are app indicators, https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/15:06
GAYLORDmy nic, I can't get it up15:06
Radkoswell using the gnome-power-manager15:06
k1lGAYLORD: "/nick newnickname"15:06
yesyayenh00k: thank you so much for tht hint, i can see they have provided python API to write the code :)15:07
MonkeyDustRadkos  sudo crontab -e ... enter the command manually15:07
hitsujiTMOrosipov: i don't think they've installed apache via the package ... what version of ubuntu is this?15:08
MonkeyDustRadkos  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab_Sections15:08
GAYLORDk1l: sorry?15:09
rosipovhitsujiTMO: 12.04.3 LTS15:10
GAYLORDcum again?15:10
zerowaitstatetime for an op15:10
MonkeyDustzerowaitstate  just ignore it15:10
packardbellhaha15:10
k1lGAYLORD: sorry, i read "nick" in your question. please stick to the guidelines in here and use family friendly language15:11
GAYLORDfuck im so sorry15:11
GAYLORDyou cunt15:11
packardbell:)15:11
zerowaitstatethanks man15:11
packardbellgj k115:11
packardbellgj k1l15:11
packardbell*15:11
hitsujiTMOrosipov: then that's not apache from the package. you'll have to contact the hosting company for help on that15:12
k1lguys, lets focus on support in here :)15:12
packardbellhmmm... I put the .iso on USB with Lili - when i start the XP and try to run the Virtual Box it says " Can't find MSVCR100.dll blabla"...15:13
packardbellAm i doing it wrong?15:13
rosipovhitsujiTMO: thanks!15:13
bananapieIs it possible to disable a iptables nf_conntrack_ module that I compiled into the kernel without recompiling or rebooting ?15:14
zerowaitstateMSVCR100.dll is the Visual C++ runtime package.  You may need to download that and install it in your VM (OT i know)15:14
packardbellkk15:14
gebbioneany idea why i cannot install this deb15:20
gebbionehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6336175/15:20
inktechnkikovhi guys.can somebody how do i increase battery life in my laptop15:20
MonkeyDustgebbione  my guess: it's a non-debian package, that's been renamed with alien15:21
BooeyOH!topic15:21
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic15:21
BooeyOHI was able to follow the directions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys) to connect, using keys, to an ecrypted home directory.  But the data is still encrypted even after I get authenticated via keys.  Any ideas of why that is?15:22
howefieldgebbione: try downloading the package again.15:24
gebbionedefinitely a broken download15:25
gebbionei get only a few bites back15:25
gebbioneneed to check url15:25
packardbellWhen i start my XP the "BOOT" menu is gone... Can't access it and google is dissappointing...15:26
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packardbellHow can in enable it again?15:26
ActionParsnippackardbell: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see it?15:27
ActionParsnippackardbell: XP is dead on 1st April 201415:27
nils-is there a way to get an unpatched version of grub?15:27
packardbelli know15:27
gimmicanyone familiar with LDAP binding to AD?15:27
packardbellthat's why i wanna run linux on it15:27
ActionParsnipnils-: how do you mean 'unpatched'15:27
packardbellbut i can't open the BIOS settings when i start my PC15:27
gimmici'm not getting a uidNumber from AD so I'm not sure how to generate the local uid15:27
nils-ActionParsnip: well ubuntu ships grub with a bunch of patches, many of which seem to disable any debug output15:28
nils-ActionParsnip: I'm looking around for a binary package without those patches applied15:28
ActionParsnipnils-: maybe the guys in #grub will know15:29
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nils-ActionParsnip: yeah well they pretty much told me the last time that the ubuntu version sucks because they remove all the output15:29
Guest56889hi all is there a way to change the possision of 2d unity doc, i would rather use 2d then 3d if possible . can someone assist15:30
esdeIf a user was running Arch with Unity would it have the same ubuntu software center icon in the launcher?15:31
ActionParsnipGuest56889: there used to be a 3rd party PPA which had it on the bottom but it is known to cause issues15:32
ActionParsnipesde: depends on the icon theme, and Arch is not supported here15:32
gdoshow do i re-install base unity?15:32
esdeActionParsnip, I realize that. This was not a request for support in any way.15:32
Guest56889ActionParsnip: was that bu chance "mario chavero" ?15:32
Radkoshallo15:33
Radkosi've tried editing crontab user's file15:33
ActionParsnipesde: you were asking about icons in Arch for an application...so yes, you did15:33
Radkosbut didn't work scheduling suspend15:33
ripthejackerhow do I use drag and drop in ubuntu?15:33
cdwSymfonyGot an issue with apache2 on 13.10... How can I get mod_rewrite to log what it's doing?   I have tried the recommended configs but I may it in the wrong place?  Where is the appropriate place to put the config?15:33
ActionParsnipripthejacker: drag and drop to what?15:34
ripthejackerActionParsnip: drag from nautilus into firefox15:34
ripthejackerActionParsnip: a file.15:34
ripthejackerI am using unity15:35
esdeThanks for pointing that out ActionParsnip. To better phrase the query for the channel. Is the icon set for unity in ubuntu unique to ubuntu?15:35
ActionParsnipripthejacker: to open the file you mean?15:35
ActionParsnipesde: no, you can use it in any distro or desktop envirnoment you like15:35
ripthejackeryes or whatever the page can do with the file15:35
gebbionehi i have ubuntu/linaro installe15:36
gebbioned15:36
ripthejackerActionParsnip: it's so easy in KDE15:36
ActionParsnipGuest56889: Pavel Golikov   but the PPA only suports Oneiric which is EOL15:36
gebbioneand not sure what package i should pick up amongst these15:36
gebbionehttp://apt.puppetlabs.com/15:36
gebbioneany clue?15:37
ActionParsnipGuest56889: what you can do is run another dock on the bottom and disable the Unity plugin in ccsm15:37
ripthejackerhttp://trapcity.tv/15:37
MonkeyDustgebbione  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue15:38
ripthejackerhow can I drag and drop to this page15:38
ActionParsnipripthejacker: even if you have the apps side by side?15:38
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ripthejackerActionParsnip: it covers the whole screen15:38
ripthejackerActionParsnip: both are full screen15:38
ActionParsnipripthejacker: then window it, does it work?15:38
ripthejackerActionParsnip: any shortcut to make the window half screen? left or right?15:39
gebbioneMonkeyDust, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \15:39
packardbellurgh...15:39
packardbellHow to change the BIOS settings if you can't open BIOS on boot? >.>15:39
MonkeyDustgebbione  that's raring, choose the file accordingly15:39
gebbioneMonkeyDust, yes i just googled that15:40
nils-I hate debugging boot problems. This box takes ages to boot.15:40
gebbionethanks15:40
gebbionei didn't know about /etc/issue15:40
packardbelllol nils-15:40
packardbellwhen i start my XP the screen stays blank, and only after couple of seconds i see the windows startup thingie15:40
packardbellso i don't see the screen where to enter BIOS15:41
hitsujiTMOgebbione: you can also check the distro codename with: lsb_release -a15:41
hexhaxtronCan I give the link to my wiki?15:41
oisaI had my keyboard go wonky after installing a set of packages... e.g., CTRL was always on. It persisted even after reboot. Has anyone encountered this?15:41
RadkosI've tried to fix that sleepy thing by reinstalling cron and anacron but still no effect15:41
gebbionehitsujiTMO, thanks15:42
hitsujiTMOhexhaxtron: this is not a place for advertising15:42
hitsujiTMOoisa: what packages did you install?15:43
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oisahitsujiTM0: mozilla's firefox bootstrap, so I frankly didn't even watch which packages15:44
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user32Hi Can anyone tell why unix systems have group with user's name for every user? I guess it is to allow other users to access this file as well, but is there any other reasons?15:47
hitsujiTMOoisa: seems thats unlikely to have caused it ... but may be a bug in one of the packages. I know there is a ctrl lock key sequence in windows, but not sure if it exists in ubuntu15:47
oisahitsujiTMO: yeah I'15:48
oisam at a loss too. thanks15:48
hitsujiTMOuser32: you must be part of a primary group. this questions is better asked in ##linux15:49
packardbellBoot error... hmmmpf15:50
bgardnerpackardbell: You may need to hit a hidden key to enter the BIOS.15:51
bgardnerpackardbell: Which key that is differs by hardware manufacturer15:51
packardbellfound that15:51
packardbellit's de DEL key15:51
XLVuser32 a group with user name isnt needed for other users to access a file owned by other users15:51
Lynx_Hi all! I need java 1.7 for a program. I did "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre" and it installed fine, but "java -version" still shows 1.6. How to I install 1.7 properly?15:52
user32Tnx for information.15:52
XLVuser32 where have you seen unix systems by default create a group for each user? thats just a design decision by the distrib makers15:52
packardbellbut can't find the option to boot from USB15:52
packardbell>.>15:52
SuperLagLynx_: update-alternatives, look into that15:52
SuperLagLynx_: if you install galternatives, it's a GUI version of the CLI command15:53
hitsujiTMOLynx_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272187/setting-jdk-7-as-default15:53
XLVuser32 distribs nowadays do it, ubuntu eg.. because theres no root user accessible in ubuntu too.. other unixes even other linux distribs dont.. they put all users into users group15:53
TalkingMuffinLynx_: Theres a update-java-alternatives command15:53
bgardnerpackardbell: Old enough systems may not have the ability, or may call it something non-obvious.15:53
SuperLagTalkingMuffin: oh? I didn't know that15:53
TalkingMuffinSuperLag: it does all the java things at once, jdk, jre, etc.15:54
XLVuser32 but thats a design decision by the ubuntu distib packagers.. they could very well put all users into a users group as well and it would work also ok15:54
packardbellhmmm15:54
packardbellin the Boot section there is 1: Removable Device - i can choose between Legacy Floppy, LS120, ZIP, ATAPI MO, USB FDD and USB ZIP15:54
hitsujiTMOXLV it's not an ubuntu support question. If you want to continue discussion of it do it in  a more suitable channel15:55
XLVhitsujiTMO a few lines of general unix qa isnt the end of the world15:55
Lynx_TalkingMuffin, SuperLag, hitsujiTMO: update-java-alternatives worked, thanks!15:55
user32because theres no root user accessible in ubuntu << what does that mean? I can use sudo...15:55
XLVuser32 yes  but you cant login as root15:55
user32oh15:56
TalkingMuffinNot directly anyway.15:56
bgardnerpackardbell: Any other choices for non-removable?15:56
user32tnx15:56
packardbell2: IDE Hard Drive 3: ATAPI CD-ROM and 4: Other Boot Device -  (SCSI Boot Device or INT18 Device (Network) )15:57
packardbelland in the ATAPI i can choose from AOPEN CRW5232/AAO PRO or the AOPEN DVD1648/AAP PRO15:58
user32How to create new files with ubuntu's default file browser?15:58
user32I am used to have it by clicking with right click on free space but context menu does not have new file15:59
packardbellgrmblf15:59
bgardnerpackardbell: I'd boot a CD and use a LiveCD to rewrite GRUB, if I were in your shoes.16:00
packardbellhmmm16:00
packardbellIC16:00
MonkeyDustuser32  up right, the round thingy16:00
packardbellain't gonna waste more time on dat old machine ... Fuck it16:01
packardbell:316:01
xangua!language | packardbell16:01
ubottupackardbell: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:01
packardbellsry xangua16:01
user32It only allows me to create new dir16:02
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bgardnerpackardbell: Or boot a LiveCD and simply blank the drive and install new.  For an older machine, maybe Xubuntu or Lubuntu would suit you better.16:02
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Guest56889i have an app that is launching on the extended screen vs the screen where the launcher resides, must i use compiz or there another wa9y to fix this16:02
MonkeyDustuser32  New document > sub menu16:02
packardbelli tried that once... didn't work either16:02
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lmatHow do I make my terminal beep ?16:03
philinuxuser32: use gedit and create a blank file in Templates16:03
lmatI looked it up the last couple days and it's pretty confusing. Shouldn't I be able to do something like    $ \e[35 or something?16:03
lmat(send the control code to the terminal)16:03
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lmatThe biggest thing is that I want a beep to happen when I get a message in IRC (irssi). I think it uses terminal beeps, and I think (since I use the terminal all day and have never heard one) ubuntu is eating them up.16:04
user32where's templates?16:04
lmatuser32: probably ~/Templates ?16:04
bgardnerlmat: I did this yesterday for irssi - you need the beep.pl script16:04
Radkosdo you have any suggestions fixing problem with my ubuntu 12.04 64bit since it doesn't goes to sleep using inactive period of time, manually running pm-suspend or closing a lid made it but the other didn't16:04
lmatbgardner: Thanks, I'll check it out.16:04
bgardnerlmat: http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/beep.pl16:05
philinuxuser32: or ina terminal  touch filename.txt16:05
lmatbgardner: oh, dude, I am so far ahead of you :P16:05
user32tnx16:05
lmatbgardner: Where do I put it ?16:05
bgardnerlmat: ~/.irssi/scripts16:06
lmatbgardner: Oh yeah, what does this do ? (after you tell me where to put it :P). Does it make the beep happen in gnome ?16:06
philinuxuser32: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nautilus#Nautilus_3.6_create_an_empty_document16:06
lmatbgardner: don't press enter yet. I'm going to restart irss.16:06
lmatirssi.16:06
lmatbgardner:16:06
lmatokay...no beeps16:06
bgardnerlmat: Then do /set beep_command = command that makes a beep16:07
lmatbgardner: thanks16:07
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bgardnerlmat: for me, this is ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg > /dev/null 2>&1 &16:07
lmatbgardner: OOO16:07
philinuxuser32: mind you i have nothing in Templates but right click has the option. The bug also says fix released. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/111364816:07
ubottuUbuntu bug 1113648 in nautilus (Ubuntu Saucy) "Add a context menu entry to create a new blank file" [Wishlist,Fix released]16:07
lmatbgardner: thanks thanks16:07
lmatbgardner: dude ,you've opened a world to me :)16:09
bgardnerlmat: You may also want a symlink for beep.pl in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun so you don't have to load it each time you start up.16:09
lmatbgardner: Can i put it in my rc16:10
lmatbgardner: I'm currently running   find '/usr/share/sounds' -name '*.ogg' -exec ogg123 {} \;16:10
marz__I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop version, is it possible for me to convert it to server version?16:10
bgardnerlmat: What is it you want in your rc?16:10
jefffan24I'm having a problem with the unity bar after dragging a file from the file manager to any program...when I do that the unity bar stays opaque16:11
lmatbgardner: how do I test it?16:11
lmatbgardner: the autorun command.16:11
lmatbgardner: I'm in freenode as lmat_ (so I don't have to keep quitting and rejoining as lmat)16:12
bgardnerlmat: Not a command, it's a subfolder beneath ~/.irssi/scripts16:12
lmatoh... /msg lmat_ doh16:12
lmatbgardner: autorun is a folder ?  so I'll put a file in there like    echo "/set beep_command=ogg123 .." > ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/setthebeep" ?16:12
lmatbgardner: (I basically did   echo "beep_command..." > ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun)16:12
bgardnerlmat: Slow down, you're kinda getting ahead of yourself16:13
bgardnerlmat: Just /set beep_command=ogg123 whatever then do /save and irssi will remember what you want16:13
bgardnerlmat: Put beep.pl in ~/.irssi/scripts and ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun and then forget about it16:14
lmatbgardner: ooooo16:14
lmatbgardner: so "unknown setting beep_command" shouldn't be happening ? ^_^16:14
lmatbgardner: Maybe the beep_beep.pl I got is busted...16:15
bgardnerlmat: No, should not happen.  Did you get the right one?  See the link I posted above.16:15
lmatbgardner: hmm, I'll check it out.16:15
lmatbgardner: would you please repost that ? (I left the room since then)16:16
bgardnerlmat: Sure: http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/beep.pl16:16
bgardnerAnd you did get the wrong one - beep_beep.pl != beep.pl16:16
lmat:(16:16
bgardnerlmat: Got it sorted out?16:18
lmatbgardner: no :(  Here's what's in my ~/.irssi/config     beep_command = "\"ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg\"";16:19
santo_Hi. I'm still having issues with downloading a video from a website on ubuntu 12.04 I've tried out several softwares with no luck so far. Any ideas?16:19
lmatbgardner: I've tried lots of iterations (it looks like I shouldn't be putting    beep_command = ogg... , there should be no equals, just space)16:19
lmatbgardner: Maybe irssi isn't beeping...16:20
bgardnerlmat: Let's move over to pm16:21
ActionParsniplmat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=164001216:21
thomast1trying to get irc working on empathy - I added the account-plugin-irc pkg, and added a freenode account, which is "On," but when I try to Join a Room in empathy, the freenode acct is greyed out.16:21
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zarnywoophow do i remove the keyring on ubuntu13.10?16:24
arcimboldoHi all, I am in a panic :)16:24
arcimboldomy openstack folsom is unable to create VMs anymore16:24
excognacis there any way to check if i plug a device into usb if it's 3.0? (yes, i know they are mostly blue)16:25
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TalkingMuffinarcimboldo: Try #ubuntu-server16:25
arcimboldoops, I thought I was in the #openstack channel16:25
arcimboldosorry16:25
daixtrhow do use 'sshuttle'? i'm connected to server but 'ping www.google.com' does not work16:28
ActionParsnipdaixtr: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?16:29
MonkeyDustdaixtr  why do you want to use it, if you don't know what it does?16:30
ActionParsnipsshuttle is a proxy16:31
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MonkeyDustdaixtr  examples are shown below: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/sshuttle.8.html16:32
ActionParsnipwhy not use squid like everyone else16:32
TalkingMuffinActionParsnip: because you'd need to install squid on the server then. sshuttle is just like setting up an ssh tunnel16:33
ActionParsnipTalkingMuffin: you can ssh tunnel to sqiud, its what I do16:34
TalkingMuffinActionParsnip: That would still require that you have the permission to install something on the server.16:34
ActionParsnipTalkingMuffin: means the squid doesnt have to be web facing16:34
TuttoIRCciao16:34
TuttoIRC!list16:34
ubottuTuttoIRC: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:34
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daixtrnumeric ipaddrs does connect (though ping 8.8.8.8 does return much)...16:35
* lmat bows down and kisses bgardner 's feet16:36
lmatbgardner: Thanks for your help on the irssi beep! It works perfectly now !!16:36
bgardnerlmat: My pleasure, enjoy!16:36
daixtrMonkeyDust: my laptop is connected to the server machine via bluetooth only16:36
lmatdaixtr: that's a problem16:37
daixtr`ping 8.8.8.8` does not exit, does not scroll, but it works..partially..16:37
burkinanonymoushello world16:39
bgardnerburkinanonymous: world says hello back16:40
MrMonkey31is uh, mount not *supposed* to be able to work with samba urls?  I spent all this time troubleshooting my connection to the roommate's windows box, only to not be able to mount their ISO's16:42
RoryMrMonkey31: What is the mount command you are running?16:42
MrMonkey31Rory: mount isopathnname destpath16:43
pero!info gnome-settings-daemon16:43
ubottugnome-settings-daemon (source: gnome-settings-daemon): daemon handling the GNOME session settings. In component main, is extra. Version 3.8.5-0ubuntu11.1 (saucy), package size 485 kB, installed size 2600 kB16:43
daixtri think, it's the dns part that is not work working...16:43
RoryMrMonkey31: Does isopathname look like /path/to/image.iso ?16:43
RoryMrMonkey31: You could try with mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint16:44
bgardnerMrMonkey31: And /path/to/iso.iso *cannot* be a samba url, like //host/share/path/to/iso.iso16:45
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RoryMrMonkey31: That's right. You need to already mount your samba share to a proper mountpoint, *then* mount the iso from there16:45
TalkingMuffinMrMonkey31: If its a network path to a samba share, you need to provide the type in the command and possibly pass your credentials. mount -t cifs //ip/path/ -o user=monkey16:45
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RoryTalkingMuffin: There's two mounts that TalkingMuffin needs to do - firstly to mount the Samba share to his filesystem tree, and then to mount the image16:46
MrMonkey31thanks Rory and TalkingMuffin, it's as I thought.  hm complexity...16:46
RoryMrMonkey31: Not so much. How are you mounting the samba share?16:47
Rory!samba | MrMonkey31 you might want to see this first16:47
ubottuMrMonkey31 you might want to see this first: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.16:47
perohow would i go about upgrading gnome-settings-daemon to a newer version than in repo?16:48
audun_I put this in crontab and it doesn't work (but works in terminal): (ifconfig | grep inet) > /home/me/ipadresse.txt16:48
audun_gives empty file. Why?16:48
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Rorypero: You would have to obtain a newer version, probably from upstream, and install (or compile and install) it. Alternatively, you could search to see if the version you want to install is included in a PPA. What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what version of gnome-settings-daemon do you want to upgrade to?16:49
MrMonkey31Rory: I was just doing everything via drag + drop out of nautilus, TalkingMuffin says I's gotta specify a cifs type so I reckon I'll try that first?16:49
RoryMrMonkey31: You still can't mount the iso in one step16:49
peroRory: 13.10, and 3.8.6 - which includes a patch for the 'do nothing on close lid' bug patched 6 months ago16:49
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RoryMrMonkey31: If you're using Nautilus already, why can't you just mount the .iso from nautilus as well? Right-click it and choose mount image (or similarly worded)16:50
MrMonkey31Rory: ohh ok.  yeh I've got this.  just my first time taking this in, that's all. gracias16:50
ActionParsnipRory: is that a default feature?16:50
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MrMonkey31why can't I?  er.  good question!16:50
RoryActionParsnip: Is what, sorry? Mounting isos through nautilus? I believe it is16:50
RoryMrMonkey31: Well then a better question would be: what happens when you try? Do you get an error?16:51
Private_Userso which flavour of ubuntu do people here recommend?16:51
Private_Userjust curious to get the opinions of you guys cause I have been trying to read as much as I can from the internet16:52
MrMonkey31Rory: I haven't found the menu spot *blushes*16:52
reisioPrivate_User: you can try each and switch to and from each regardless of which you install16:52
RoryMrMonkey31: How were you trying to do it before, when you were saying it wasn't working16:52
MrMonkey31but I've had good results with mount.  going to build on that as of right now.  next year, maybe I'll diversify16:53
RoryMrMonkey31: In that case you need to browse to where nautilus really mounts that Samba share, which I think is in /run/user/$USER/gvfs16:53
MrMonkey31Rory: oh, basically Click network, browse to appropriate WG/path/file, drag that guy into a terminal window after typing mount16:53
RoryMrMonkey31: Or maybe in /home/$USER/.gvfs I'm not sure which is which it changed at some point16:53
Quintohi, i need libusb 1.0.16 which is apt package?16:54
RoryQuinto: What Ubuntu version?16:54
Private_Userthanks reisio maybe I will, but just wanted to get others opinions what they prefer16:54
luxgeekStruggling to remember how to get my AR9565 internal wifi working with 12.04? I've been googling but no joy yet…suggestions?16:54
Hoinom_KittHELLO, WORLD! How to asm all interfaces ubu(g2,g3,u,c, etc) on same architecture a once dvd5? thx16:54
RoryQuinto: You can install it with the package libusb-1.0-0 or if you need the development libraries to compile software which uses libusb it's libusb-1.0-0-dev16:55
MrMonkey31Rory: it expanded it to a smb: url which you said was not gonna go through. I'm actually fine with the info I've gotten. I don't mind puzzling it out on my own.  gives me a sense of accomplishment.  nice to have this channel as a lifeline too 8   )16:55
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reisioPrivate_User: Unity/GNOME will be more familiar to those coming from Mac OS, and KDE for those coming from Windows; Xfce can mimic either well enough, LXDE more like older Windows16:55
luxgeekAnyone?16:56
QuintoRory: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS16:56
Quintowhen i go in my app dont exist in include libusb.h16:56
Rory!info lubusb-1.0-0 lucid16:56
ubottuPackage lubusb-1.0-0 does not exist in lucid16:56
Private_Userthanks reisio16:56
RoryQuinto: Then you need to install libusb-1.0-0-dev16:57
Rory!info libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid16:57
ubottulibusb-1.0-0-dev (source: libusb-1.0): userspace USB programming library development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.6-1 (lucid), package size 145 kB, installed size 952 kB16:57
Hoinom_Kittthx. im novice. decided to withdraw from the mask show.16:57
QuintoRory: Couldn't find package libusb-1.0.0-dev16:57
RoryQuinto: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" first16:58
RoryQuinto: If you get any erorrs, please paste the full output from that command onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel so I can see16:58
Quintosame error arghhh16:58
QuintoRory: Couldn't find package libusb-1.0.0-dev16:59
RoryQuinto: Server questions should go to #ubuntu-server in future by the way16:59
RoryQuinto: Can you pastebin the output from "sudo apt-get update"16:59
Quintohttp://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4JRory:17:00
Quintohttp://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4J17:00
QuintoRory: http://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4J17:00
andybrineQuick question, im having problems automounting a hd, is there a graphical way to mount drives?17:02
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Roryandybrine: Through the file manager, in the left hand side, or through the Disk Utility17:02
audun_can anyone help with crontab?17:02
andybrineRory, I would lik it to mount on startup17:03
RoryQuinto: Are you sure you're typing libusb-1.0-0-dev correctly? The package does exist for your distro17:03
Quintoah17:03
Roryandybrine: I believe the Disk Utility can do this17:03
Quintolibusb-1.0.0-dev or libusb-1.0-0-dev?17:03
Roryerm... whatever one Ubottu said was OK above17:04
Roryinfo libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid17:04
Rory!!info libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid17:04
Roryugh sorry. anyway, that one17:04
Quintolibusb-1.0-0-dev is already the newest version.17:04
Quintoi have already this17:04
Quintowhere is header files?17:04
RoryQuinto: try "sudo updatedb && locate libusb.h" or whaver the file is called17:05
andybrineRory: Thanks17:05
tsimpsonQuinto: /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h17:05
Quintotsimpson: yes !17:05
Quintobut in my app on qt i dont view this header file17:06
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Quintotsimpson: but in my app on qt i dont view this header file17:07
tsimpsonQuinto: which app?17:08
Quintoi want include this in my QT17:08
Quintoapp17:08
tet3what's the correct URI syntax for connecting to  WebDAV share from the Files app -> Connect to Server dialog? It no longer allows to to select WebDAV from a drop-down.17:08
tsimpsonQuinto: then you probably want to add /usr/include/libusb-1.0 to the include path and #include <lubusb.h>17:09
Quintoyes it work17:09
ActionParsniptet3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233242/how-do-i-establish-a-webdav-connection-in-gnome-317:11
yesyayenhttp://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/python/AppIndicator3-0.1.html - Internal Server Error , where else can i get the info in that page, kinda urgent17:12
ljunggrenI accidentaly made my USB none-bootable.. i tried to format the whole shebang but i somehow failed.. and when i tried with usb-imagewriter and write ISO on it it just boots up normal session. There was several partitions on it before and now it only gets one big partition instead..what have i done? do i need to reformat it some format? I tought usb-imagewriter was doing that17:13
bgardneryesyayen: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BNt3bHruaN4J:developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/python/AppIndicator3-0.1.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us17:15
Roryljunggren: Try a different writing tool? And yes, all those sorts of tools completely wipe the device each time (including partition table usually)17:15
ljunggrenRory, thats the only writing tool ive had luck with.. the ordinary from ubuntu always fails on something17:16
ljunggrenRory, in the one comes with ubuntu it just "fail" i have no idea why lol17:17
MrMonkey31ok I got to the bottom of that samba's sharing w your help and the useful link from chan bot!  what I needed was to install the cifs-utils package, then do the mount command using the -t cifs invocation.  now I can mount whatever stuff I'll need to from that shared folder17:18
gordonjcpljunggren: I just use dd to transfer a hybrid ISO to the stick17:18
ubuntu_e ae galera17:19
* MrMonkey31 dances extatically17:19
ubuntu_uma pergunta17:19
ubuntu_se eu tiver um processador amd athon x2 64 com 2 gb de memoria ram17:19
danialWhich is the best software available in Ububntu to creat book (200-300 pages) related to theology?17:19
ubuntu_posso colocar a versao 64 ou 3217:19
MrMonkey31s/extatic/ecstatic17:19
ljunggrengordonjcp, perhaps i was using faulty ISO17:20
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danialWhich is the best software available in Ububntu to creat book (200-300 pages) related to theology?17:21
Rorydanial: Do you mean you want to format a document as an ebook? Could you rephrase the question maybe?17:22
vmachinehow can i perform a ping from a secondary address in ubuntu17:23
kmystvmachine: what do you mean?17:23
dv-vmachine: ping -I17:23
alex88vmachine: ping -I interface address destination17:23
kmystyeah what they said17:24
danialyes, i want to create an ebook.17:24
vmachinedoesnt work... its still goes from primary address17:25
vmachineits one physical card but logical address17:25
Rorydanial: The "calibre" program has a process to convert from various popular formats to the epub format17:26
luxgeekStruggling to remember how to get my AR9565 internal wifi working with 12.04? I've been googling but no joy yet…suggestions?17:26
Rorydanial: It's not as simple as that though, read this first (it's about using Calibre to format an epub) http://www.teleread.com/drm/the-abcs-of-format-conversion-for-the-kindle-sony-and-nook-plus-some-calibre-tips/17:26
danialnot for converting,17:27
Rorydanial: What do you mean then?17:27
yesyayenbgardner: thank you!!! how did i forget that ??!!  :)17:27
kmystvmachine: as long as your routing table is set right you should be able to ping an address on the same network your virtual interface is on17:27
danialI am looking for something like latex17:27
Rorydanial: But not latex?17:27
danialI do not know how to do it on latex17:28
bgardneryesyayen: :)17:28
Rorydanial: There is a program called Sigil I have found which helps you format an ebook https://github.com/user-none/Sigil17:28
Rorydanial: Sorry you can download it here https://code.google.com/p/sigil/17:28
Rorydanial: If you aren't comfortable compiling it from source, there are instructions on using a PPA here http://askubuntu.com/questions/297286/how-do-i-install-sigil17:29
danialok, is more suitable than libre office?17:30
benzrfhello, I'm on saucy & I need adobe air17:30
benzrfall of the guys seem to require i32libs or something17:30
Rorydanial: Yes because LibreOffice doesn't support epub format I believe, and this is a dedicated tool. I've not used it however17:30
benzrf*not guys17:30
benzrfinstructions17:30
Rorybenzrf: What Ubuntu version?17:30
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benzrfRory: 13:30 < benzrf> hello, I'm on saucy & I need adobe air17:31
danialis latex like a markup language? like html?17:31
benzrfdanial: not exactly17:32
benzrfwait im not sure I know nothing about it17:32
benzrfignore me please17:32
Rorybenzrf: Follow the instructions you were using, but use this guide to install ia32-libs. Adobe discontinued support for AIR on Linux quite a while ago  http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-13-1017:32
benzrfit's... asking me to add raring as a package source17:33
benzrfthat seems incredibly dangerous17:33
danialthank you Rory17:33
Rorybenzrf: I believe you install ia32-libs from raring, then remove the source17:35
Rorybenzrf: Yes it's dangerous, unsupported etc17:35
benzrf:I17:35
RoryBut Adobe aren't going to start making nice 13.10 64-bit versions of Air ever17:35
benzrfik17:35
benzrfalright, just this once17:36
benzrf>.>17:36
yeyemanhow do I uninstall from terminal?17:37
aswjI can't get access to many sites from Ubunt 13.1017:37
ActionParsnipyeyeman: uninstall what?17:37
Roryyeyeman: sudo apt-get remove packagename17:38
hitsujiTMOaswj: what exactly do you mean?17:38
yeyemanwhat is the ubuntu equivilent of something like ccleaner?17:40
benzrfyeyeman: why would you need that?17:40
Roryyeyeman: bleachbit17:40
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MonkeyDustyesyayen  or ubuntu-tweak janitor17:44
benzrfit didn't work17:44
benzrfim going to go to adobe hq17:44
benzrfand punch everybody there in the fac17:44
benzrfe17:45
yeyemanthe clock sometimes doesn't start17:51
luxgeekwhat do I need to run on this brand new machine so that my 12.04 install will use the built in AR9565 wifi??17:51
yeyemanor does not show in the top right corner17:51
jpedroza2kapt-get is failing to import a ppa with a certificate validation error. I can hit the URL in a browser no problem, but apt doesn't like the SSL cert. Has anyone seen that before?17:51
MonkeyDustyesyayen  in 13.10? that's reported as a launchpad bug17:52
OerHeksjpedroza2k, PPA's are officialy not supported here, but what ppa are you referring to? and what ubuntu version?17:53
MonkeyDustyeyeman  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/122836017:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 1228360 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "No clock in menu bar and can't edit Clock settings" [Undecided,Incomplete]17:54
jpedroza2kOerHeks, atlassian and 13.10. I have asked in there as well.17:54
delinquentmesoo this is the command I run to adjust my screen brightness: xrandr --output eDP-1 --brightness 0.52 I'd like to macro it to a few keys and 1) get the current brightness and then decrement/increment  that 10%17:54
delinquentmeis this simple?17:54
OerHeksjpedroza2k, what url for that ppa ?17:54
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fatih#ubuntu17:55
jpedroza2kOerHeks, https://sdkrepo.atlassian.com/debian/17:55
yeyemanMonkeyDust: thanks17:56
jpedroza2kIt is the only https source I have.17:56
jpedroza2kSwitching to straight http seems to work.17:57
gugauaHello I have got a problem, i cannot authenticate cyrus-imapd with sasldb I use AUXPROP with SASLDB plugin and here are some logs17:59
gugauahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6336922/17:59
MantissaI accidentally was viewing the lenses I had when searching for something in the dash. How do I see all my lenses in the dash?18:00
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OerHeksjpedroza2k, not really a PPA from launchpad, that ssl can be fixed easily.18:01
joshua_Bishopay18:03
ClientAliveMy friend has an old, old thinkpad (I think manufactured in 2001). I've convinced him to try a lightweight linux distro and have decided on Lubuntu for him. I read that older chipsets stopped being supported with the introduction of 10.10 but that 10.04 is no longer supported. Can someone advise?18:04
gordonjcpClientAlive: I think something from 2001 would be struggling even with Lubuntu18:05
gordonjcpClientAlive: can you find out the exact spec of the laptop?18:06
ClientAlivegordonjcp: I could but not certain where to find the correct information. The only thing I can find is on the backside manufacturer's label, says: Type: 2628-75u18:07
DarkSteelhello18:07
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jmgkhi18:07
DarkSteelthanks18:07
hitsujiTMOClientAlive: do you know what processor or how much ram the system has?18:07
gordonjcpClientAlive: bangin', that's all I need18:07
DarkSteelhow are you talking about ?18:07
hitsujiTMODarkSteel: this is a support channel not a talk channel18:07
gordonjcpClientAlive: if you had the serial number too, I could tell you exactly right down to who bolted it together in the factory :-D18:07
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ClientAlivegordonjcp: I have the s/n:18:08
ClientAliveone sec18:08
DarkSteeloke bY18:08
gordonjcpClientAlive: I'd need to poke someone at IBM18:08
gordonjcpit is a Thinkpad A22M, Pentium III 850MHz which had 64MB of RAM as stock18:08
gordonjcpthey were nice in their day, but I doubt even Lubuntu would run18:09
hitsujiTMOgordonjcp: thats not even enough for 12.04 cli18:09
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hitsujiTMOClientAlive: ^18:09
gordonjcphitsujiTMO: well18:09
ClientAlivegordonjcp: 78-KXYAH 09/0118:09
gordonjcpif you boot off the 32-bit mini iso which doesn't require PAE then you'll get somewhere18:09
hitsujiTMOgordonjcp: 12.04 minimal server uses 50mb ram18:09
gordonjcpit will definitely need more RAM18:09
ClientAlivehitsujiTMO: I'm not certain. Trying to find more out now.18:10
gordonjcpClientAlive: maybe try something like Puppy Linux?18:10
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gordonjcpClientAlive: fire it up and see how much RAM is in it?18:10
ClientAlivegordonjcp: agh, good idea18:10
hitsujiTMOClientAlive: or damnsmalllinux ... maybe something with a 2.4 kernel18:10
ClientAlivegordonjcp: Do you know if puppy is hard to install on the hard drive? And, if it runs entirely in ram and ram is minimal… well… what's left of ram for using the computer then?18:11
gordonjcpClientAlive: haven't tried18:11
ee12025hi18:11
gordonjcpClientAlive: it's worth a shot though18:11
ClientAlivehitsujiTMO: Good one too, thx18:11
ClientAlivegordonjcp: It is, will do and thx.18:12
gordonjcpClientAlive: if you're really hardcore you can get something like miniroot and compile your own tiny "embedded-ish" distro for it :-)18:13
ClientAlivegordonjcp: The problem is he's erally not very skilled on the computer. It came with win 98 (but we have no installation media for that). He need's to be able to click around and use it easy.18:14
intraderAnyone, Showstopper issues in ubuntu 13.10;  have come to the conclusion that I must reinstall 12.04 on top of 13.10 on account of the numerous problems with 13.10. Is there a way to reinstall 13.10 - to give it one more try (upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10 generated many errors)18:16
bozeany one figured out how to get everpad to work on 13.10?18:17
trupheenixanyone here who can help me with postfix?18:18
gugauaask the question then we will see18:19
hitsujiTMOholy crap i just found my old redhat 6.0 cds + licence18:20
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intraderAnyone, Showstopper issues in ubuntu 13.10;  have come to the conclusion that I must reinstall 12.04 on top of 13.10 on account of the numerous problems with 13.10. Is there a way to reinstall 13.10 - to give it one more try (upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10 generated many errors) - If I reinstall 12.04 will ubuntu offer all the updates?18:23
hitsujiTMOintrader: first: whats the actual problem with 13.10?18:24
FloodBot1!netsplit18:25
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit18:25
Ari-Yangintrader: if you install 12.04 LTS, ofc you'd get updates.... it's LTS18:25
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s2013how do i add custom resolution to the display menu18:26
s2013i was able to use xrandr to get it working but it didnt persist18:26
hitsujiTMOs2013: for persistence you need to generate a xorg.conf18:27
s2013how do i do that18:27
Ari-Yangs2013: what ubuntu version are you on?18:27
Ari-Yang!xorg.conf18:27
ubottuThe /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is deprecated, but sometimes may still be needed to pass values to specific drivers. Generic xorg.conf generation: http://ubottu.com/y/xorgconf - ATI/AMD ( fglrx driver ) specific: http://ubottu.com/y/atiamd - NVidia ( nvidia driver )specific: http://ubottu.com/y/nvidia man xorg.conf for file structure and syntax.18:27
Ari-Yang^ s201318:27
jedimindi need a magical all encompasing solution for imap / pop3 on ubuntu with email users (that arent system-level) and ideally a web interface to add/remove email accounts. any suggestions?18:28
s2013k thanks ill look at it18:28
hitsujiTMOs2013: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config is a good starting point too18:28
intraderAri-Yang, I have a 12.04 ISO, is it for lts?18:28
s2013thanks18:29
Ari-Yangintrader: 12.04 is LTS....18:29
paulus68is there a program available for file decryption?18:29
Ari-Yang!12.04 > intrader18:29
ubottuintrader, please see my private message18:29
Ari-Yang!12.0418:29
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120418:29
intraderAri-Yang, thanks18:29
Ari-Yangintrader: I recommend you install 12.04.318:29
intraderAri-Yang, where do I get 12.04.3 (i have not noticed the .x before)18:31
hallagullai was giving command chmod -R 777 ./  but instead i accedantly did chmod -R 777 /  for just one or two seconds18:31
Ari-Yangintrader: did you even bother checking the link ubottu has in the resposne to !12.04 trigger?18:31
hallagullait effected /usr directory only (i guess)18:32
intraderAri-Yang, yes, but I must have missed the .x18:32
hallagullanow my sudo command is not working..can i revert back old permissions for /usr directory and its files? or my system is broke?18:32
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Quintohi, i need libusb 1.0.16 which is apt package?18:34
hallagullacan someonehelp me?18:34
TalkingMuffinhallagulla: You're pretty much out of luck.  A reinstall is your best bet.18:34
paulus68is there a program available for file encryption18:34
hallagullaokay18:35
tsimpsonQuinto: you asked that already18:35
reisiopaulus68: so many18:35
Quintoyes but i have a problem18:35
Quintomy library is 1.0.018:35
Quintoand i need 1.0.16 for use some function in new version18:35
intraderAri-Yang, what did you mean with the .x in 12.04.318:36
paulus68reisio: I know there are a lot of possible programs available however I need one which is easy and when possible to do on the fly18:36
hallagullaTalkingMuffin: i did chmod -R 755 /usr   and sudo is working again..let us see how far i go18:36
reisiopaulus68: on the fly?18:36
silidan1hi, where can i download a safe super grub disk? all i found so far is a virus infected one on sourceforge18:36
reisiosilidan1: what do you need super grub disk for?18:36
paulus68reisio: if possible :p18:36
reisiopaulus68: meaning what18:36
silidan1reisio: a friend of mine fucked his boot manager18:37
reisiosilidan1: for Ubuntu?18:37
paulus68reisio: well that for instance when I close the file it encrypts directly18:37
reisiopaulus68: ah18:37
Quintotsimpson: do you can help me?18:37
paulus68reisio: but if this is not possible I'm not to lazy to use terminal or gui18:37
silidan1well he had win7 and ubunut paralell install then had the bright idea to delete the whole linux partition from windows and reboot#18:37
reisiopaulus68: I don't know, you could maybe use 7z18:38
reisiopaulus68: I think encfs would be less awful in the long run18:38
silidan1so all that can be saved now is his windows install18:38
ripthejacker!LTS18:39
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)18:39
tsimpsonQuinto: libusb-1.0-0 and libusb-1.0-0-dev18:39
FiremanEdpaulus68: Might want to look at TrueCrypt18:39
paulus68reisio: 7z is just compression I use already truecrypt but I use that mostly for creating virtual drives18:39
reisiosilidan1: Windows install media would be good for that, see #windows18:39
Quintotsimpson: i have already download it with sudo apt-get install18:39
reisiopaulus68: no 7z does encryption as well18:39
Quintobut i need 1.0.1618:40
paulus68FiremanEd: I'm not sure if  truecrypt can encrypt files only18:40
paulus68reisio: Ok wasn't aware of that option with 7z18:40
silidan1reisio: dunno if it will, he said repair didnt work... i dont know shit about that one, i once had a super grub disk, but cant find it, id prefer the supergrub way...18:40
Quintotsimpson: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~jwrdegoede/libusb-reference/group__hotplug.html#ga556d598ca379618a41bbec3597f55dcf18:40
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intraderAri-Yang, what did you mean with the .x in 12.04.3 - ubottu does not specify 12.04.318:40
Quintodo you can view and read : Since version 1.0.16, LIBUSBX_API_VERSION >= 0x01000102.18:40
Quintoi have error infact in my software18:41
reisiosilidan1: doesn't make any sense to use it for that, but what makes you think it has viruses?18:41
kardanWhat could be the reason that my screenshot of mplayer is just blue?18:41
kardanMaybe this is related: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files18:41
silidan1because when i booted from this cd it started deleting stuff on my harddrives and wasnt too shy to tell me about it18:41
howefieldintrader: 12.04.3 is the latest point release in the LTS series18:41
silidan1i got the image from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/18:41
kardan~/lc18:42
reisiokardan: try using glc18:42
intraderhowfield, where do I get it? I have the original .iso for 12.0418:43
sjmikemAnyone know why my status bar keeps freezing in SS?18:43
sjmikemClock update stops, can't click on any items in it18:43
howefieldintrader: you can use that and updating will mean that you end up on 12.04.3 with the 3.2 kernel18:43
MonkeyDustsjmikem  probably this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/122836018:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 1228360 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "No clock in menu bar and can't edit Clock settings" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:44
tsimpsonQuinto: 1.0.16 is only available in saucy18:44
Quintotsimpson: saucy?18:45
howefieldintrader: 12.04.3 is 12.04 with all the updates since 12.04 was released, except installing from that will give you the 3.8 (?) kernel18:45
tsimpsonQuinto: 13.1018:45
kostkonQuinto, codename for 13.1018:45
Quintoubuntu 13.10?18:45
kostkonQuinto, yes18:45
Quintoah18:45
kardanreisio: which package is this? Could not find it with dpkg -S bin/glc18:45
lmatI'm trying to set up an ssh environment for a user on a server, but it's not quite working.18:45
intraderhowefield, so I best download; thanks18:46
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lmatAfter the user puts in his password, he gets "Connection closed"18:46
lmatI think I have the server set up properly18:46
lmatLord knows I've tried.18:46
Quintooh no!18:46
lmatin passwd, the user is set for /usr/bin/sftp  shell.18:46
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howefieldintrader: yes, also if you plan on trying 13.10 again, I'd recommend taking an image of your install with something like Clonezilla, then when you break your install, it is an easy matter to get back to your starting point, or of course dual boot :)18:47
sjmikemMonkeyDust: Mine is a little different.  The clock was there, was working fine.  Then suddenly froze.  It's visible, but not updating.18:47
lmatin /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I have Match group groupname    ChrootDirectory /mnt18:47
sjmikemAlso can't click on anything else in status bar18:47
lmatmnt is owned by root:root.18:47
MonkeyDustsjmikem  yeah, it must be related to the reported bug18:47
reisiokardan: I'm not sure it's in any repos, actually18:47
tsimpsonlmat: sftp is for non-interactive file transfer, not a login shell18:48
reisiokardan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197010518:48
lmattsimpson: oh.18:48
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lmattsimpson: um.. really ?18:48
CatKillerlmat: Yes, you can even use filezilla18:48
sjmikemMonkeyDust: killall unity-panel-service did not work for me.  Any suggestions for kicking the status bar back into working order?18:48
tsimpsonlmat: yes, see man sftp18:48
kardanreisio: the problem is with gnome-screenshot, gpe-screenshot is fine BTW.18:48
Quintotsimpson: but hotplaug is only from 1.0.1618:48
lmattsimpson: "sftp is an interactive file transfer program"18:48
Quintoand i must develop a software18:48
lmattsimpson: Oh, so I should leave his shell as bash or whatever ?18:48
tsimpsonlmat: yes, I mean it's not an interactive shell18:49
tsimpsonlmat: yeah, just bash is fine18:49
Quintohow i can do?18:49
lmattsimpson: okay.18:49
MonkeyDustsjmikem  no, i havent switched to 13.10 yes18:49
tsimpsonQuinto: upgrade to saucy...18:49
MonkeyDustyet*18:49
Quintotsimpson: i cant18:49
Quintoi have a beagle board18:49
reisiokardan: no problem at all, then, is it? :p18:49
kardanreisio: thanks!18:49
silidan1reisio: i used the image file http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/files/super_grub_disk_0.9800.iso , try it in virtualbox, youll see, i made the mistake to use it on my pc first, it deleted some files before i could reset18:49
tsimpsonQuinto: the other option is trying to compile it yourself18:49
kardanwill try glc anyway :)18:50
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reisiosilidan1: I don't have to try it, I can scan it with a virus scanner18:50
Quintotsimpson: what?18:50
lmattsimpson: Well, I changed the shell to bash, and I use  sftp -P port user@server  and it connects just fine. When I pwd, it shows /home/user (rather than /mnt)18:50
Ari-Yang[14:43:15] <intrader> howfield, where do I get it? I have the original .iso for 12.04v ---> Like I said before, you obviously didn't read nor check out the link ubottu gave you otherwise you wouldn't be asking that question.18:50
tsimpsonQuinto: compiling libusb locally18:50
CatKillergood luck with that ;)18:50
lmattsimpson: Perhaps it's not matching?  I have "Match group groupname" in sshd_config, but how do I tell if it's matching?18:50
reisiosilidan1: pretty sure sf.net distributing virus-laden files is unheard of, though18:50
Quintotsimpson: what do you want say me?18:50
silidan1reisio: dunno, but the files that got mentioned are gone18:51
reisiosilidan1: but again, it's the wrong tool for the job anyways, so that it does something strange is no surprise18:51
tsimpsonlmat: perhaps there's something useful in /var/log/auth.log18:51
silidan1reisio: actually i picked it cause it was said i can repair mbr with ti...18:51
trupheenixhello anyone here who can help me with a postfix setup issue?18:52
Quintodo you say compile libusb on ubuntu on beagle board?18:52
tsimpsonQuinto: if you can't upgrade to saucy, and you must have 1.0.16, then you'll have to download the source code for libusb and compile it yourself18:52
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reisiosilidan1: maybe so, but the correct tool to fix Windows' booter is a Windows install image18:52
Quintotsimpson: but work?18:52
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tsimpsonQuinto: I don't know18:53
lmattsimpson: Nothing. accepted password, sshd:session... "subsystem request for sftp by user"18:53
compdoctrupheenix, will another, easier to use mail transport agent work? or does it have to be postfix?18:54
silidan1reisio: ok, gonna try it that way then18:54
PavolHello , somebody who recording on ubuntu guitar ?18:54
lmattsimpson: The maddening thing is that I set this up on a local virtual machine and it works just fine.18:54
trupheenixcompdoc, i don't know maybe you can suggest18:55
tsimpsonlmat: if you set chroot it'll still show /home/user, but it'll be /mnt/home/user on the system. does that sound plausible to you?18:56
lmattsimpson: yes it does, Thanks so much. I'll take a look.18:56
lmattsimpson: (of course /mnt/home doesn't exist, but I'll go with it)18:56
compdoctrupheenix, well, you might need to remove postfix first. But I love nullmailer. you just tell it the name of your pc, and the name/address of your mail server, and boom! you can send mails18:56
intraderAri-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone?18:57
trupheenixcompdoc, I need to receive mails as well18:57
lmattsimpson: No, that doesn't work.   cd ../../  then ls shows bin boot cdrom, etc.18:57
lmattsimpson: I'm really thinking it's not matching.18:57
compdoctrupheenix, thats a function of your email client. you sure you need postfix?18:57
tsimpsonlmat: sounds like it18:57
lmattsimpson: back to duckduck18:57
trupheenixcompdoc, let me explain in more detail18:58
intraderAri-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone? - have now opened the link, and indeed the .x is clear18:58
trupheenixcompdoc, I am trying to set up postfix on my application server; so that the application can send emails to users in my domain.18:58
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compdoctrupheenix, I use nullmailer so my ubuntu servers can send informational emails to me18:58
trupheenixcompdoc, the application also would require it's own user id and pop support.18:58
trupheenixcompdoc, ok18:58
compdocI could use postfix, but its too difficult for me to set up18:59
trupheenixcompdoc, ok18:59
trupheenixcompdoc, so does nullmailer want to use a relay to send e-mails?18:59
compdoctrupheenix, it uses an email server to send. either local or romote19:00
compdocremote19:00
trupheenixcompdoc, ok19:01
compdocdo you have your own email server?19:01
trupheenixcompdoc, does it have user management? like login with password?19:01
compdoctrupheenix, no, its just an agent. its not an email server19:01
trupheenixcompdoc, ah...19:01
trupheenixcompdoc, I require an e-mail server19:02
compdocwhat do you use for emails now?19:02
streulmahello Ubuntu people :)19:04
compdocPostfix is a free and open-source mail transfer agent (MTA) that routes and delivers electronic mail  <- which is the same as nullmailer. I dont think postfix is an email server if used by itself19:04
trupheenixcompdoc, ok19:04
trupheenixcompdoc, right now i use Google Apps for e-mails19:04
streulmatrupheenix compdoc https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/19:05
streulmathis is what I use for mailserver19:05
trupheenixcompdoc, postfix works fine. it sends out e0mails to anyother domain except my own. :(19:05
compdocyeah, thats what its for19:05
trupheenixcompdoc, ok I am using dovecot behind postfix19:06
streulmatrupheenix: use my tutorial ?19:06
nightdrevernstalled Xubuntu which also installed xfce how do i remove them and THIR packages?19:06
trupheenixstreulma, i using postgresql instead of mysql19:06
MonkeyDustnightdrever  what's thir?19:07
nightdreverthier sorry19:07
Ari-Yang[14:58:18] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone? - have now opened the link, and indeed the .x is clear ---> You are welcome. Excuse the "tone" but I just don't like bothering with people that don't even think or ask for answers when it's right there in front of them, in this case you clicking on that link :|19:07
wilee-nileenightdrever, what release and end goal?19:07
nightdrever12.04 ubuntu install xunbutu too so i could select at log in19:08
bazhang!puregnome | nightdrever19:08
ubottunightdrever: If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu19:08
trupheenixstreulma, suppose the user is not on my postfix user table how do i send e-mail to him? the email id is valid.19:09
brokedownhi19:09
nightdreverthanks ill try19:09
wilee-nileenightdrever, you want xubuntu and ubuntu right? xfce is part of the xubuntu base.19:09
nightdreveri dont want them i just use ubuntu19:09
reisiobrokedown: hi19:09
streulmatrupheenix: don't understand19:10
trupheenixstreulma, let me explain19:10
wilee-nileenightdrever, Ah, reead your posts it does not say that.19:10
trupheenixstreulma, so i have setup postfix+dovecot on my server at mydomain.com so that my web application can use it to send e-mails to users on my domain.19:10
trupheenixstreulma, but the users on my domain have their accounts on a different mail server altogether.19:10
brokedownhow do you navigate by keyboard between a virtualhost guest (at fullscreen on one monitor) and the ubuntu host running in both monitors?19:11
nightdreverwille-nilee    so is http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu  safe? and ill still have my normal ubuntu?19:11
wilee-nileenightdrever, Yeah excellent removal lists.19:11
intraderAri-Yang, thanks for 'sort of excuse' - the linke should says 12.04.3 to avoid clicking the link.19:11
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nightdreverReading state information... Done19:12
nightdreverE: Unable to locate package fonts-lyx19:12
nightdreverE: Unable to locate package libxfce4ui-utils19:12
nightdreverE: Unable to locate package libxfce4util619:12
nightdreverE: Unable to locate package xbrlapi19:12
wilee-nileenightdrever, Be sure you are using the correct release is all, and it is what you want as far as its description.19:12
trupheenixstreulma, so when I try to send e-mail to my users using postfix, postfix refuses to do so because those user ids are not in the user table of the postgresql db.19:12
nightdreverok brb19:13
streulmatrupheenix: then tyou need a send mail only server?19:13
wilee-nileeheh the bots link is 12.10, gotta check19:13
trupheenixstreulma, need to receive mails as well19:14
Ari-Yang[15:11:45] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for 'sort of excuse' - the linke should says 12.04.3 to avoid clicking the link. ---> what? ._.19:14
lmattsimpson: Does sshd automatically re-read the /etc/sshd_config ?19:15
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howefieldbrokedown: have you tried using the Right Ctrl key to move between the two ?19:15
streulmatrupheenix: you cannot receive mail on 1 server and other server at the same time, you can only have 1 mx-server once19:15
trupheenixstreulma, nope. you can have multiple delivery apparently.19:16
intraderAri-Yang, the text for the link (as in html <a>)19:16
intraderAri-Yang, a constructive suggesting is beyond your current ugly mood19:18
lmatAfter modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config, do I have to tell sshd to re-read the configuration ?19:18
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Ari-Yang!12.0419:18
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120419:18
Ari-Yangintrader: there are links in that trigger, you didn't bother exploring19:18
Ari-Yangintrader: quit trying to justify your stupidity.19:19
lmatwas that a netsplit (recovery) or did I just have a personal network problem ?19:19
Ari-Yangnow, moving on~19:19
howefieldAri-Yang: why are you being obnoxious ? cut him/her some slack..19:19
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Ari-Yanghowefield: I'm not being obnoxious; I already told intrader why I don't bother helping those who want answers when it's right in front of them.19:21
Ari-Yanghe's the one who continues to respond to me :|19:21
intraderAri-Yang, learn to handle your answer helpfully and courteously. It is not usual to run into someone in your kind of mood19:22
howefieldAri-Yang: watch your blood pressure, ;-) you do have a choice in what you respond to... anyway I'm off for dinner. Have a good one :)19:23
intraderAri-Yang, you helped -------> THANKS19:23
Ari-Yanghowefield: you too~19:23
lmattsimpson: dude, I think the problem was that sshd wasn't reading my freaking sshd_config19:24
intraderhowefield, thanks to you too - I am downloading 12.04.319:24
lmattsimpson: Be sure the next time you help some one, have them do a little sudo service ssh restart !! ^_^19:24
Ari-Yangintrader: noted; It's also not usual to run into someone with your level of curiosity and intelligence. You're welcome, happy to help~19:25
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intraderAri-Yang, enough - you evidently have a bad day19:26
Ari-Yangintrader: Nah, my day has been good so far~ If you don't want anymore response for me, I suggest you don't reply to me :319:26
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Dudytzhi all! I have a Ubuntu 13.10 installation and my login user is the one created in the standard installation. I have been created a new user and the only group created is the group with the same same of the user. What's the recomended groups to add the user to permit all the users tasks like mount SD cards, use the camera, ecc ... where can I find information related of this configuration?19:31
nightdreverhi im on ubuntu 12.04 and i get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.19:32
nightdreverhow do i fix?19:32
wilee-nileenightdrever, Sometimes there are partial upgrades, this is most likely do to the packages not be in yet (dependencies) there are many independent teams.19:33
wilee-nileebeing*19:33
Dudytzanyone?19:33
nightdreverwildee i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome319:33
nightdreversudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nautilus19:33
wilee-nileenightdrever, Usually this resolves it self within a day or to, being specific though here really helps.19:34
wilee-nilee!ppa | nightdrever19:34
ubottunightdrever: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:34
nadeemheeey19:34
wilee-nileehoooo19:34
nadeemdo anyone have a problem with ubuntu after last night updates?19:35
nightdreverok how do i remove sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome319:35
Dudytzok .. thanks all .. no support19:35
Ari-Yangnightdrever: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:gnome3-team/gnome319:35
wilee-nileenadeem, 4 release right now can you like give details, and 1000's of package's.19:35
nadeemit installed like 171 update19:36
wilee-nilee!ppa-purge | nightdrever19:36
ubottunightdrever: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:36
nadeemthen fire fox stopped working19:36
nightdreverthanks19:36
Ari-Yangnightdrever: if you want to purge the ppa and revert to ubuntu's own packages then ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome319:36
nadeemand i close it stay on my screen19:36
nadeemand sotware manager the same19:36
wilee-nileenadeem, Oh the 171 install and firefox stops working, sounds like a bewitching.19:36
nadeemi cant even use the thing that im using my windows again19:37
wilee-nileeoh no not windows19:37
wilee-nilee;)19:37
nadeemyeah!!!19:37
nadeemits all errors that i have to keep logg in and out19:37
nadeemto remove the screen that stuck on my screen19:38
wilee-nileenadeem, sounds like a partial update, did you use the update manager?19:38
nadeemyeah it was a partial update19:38
wilee-nileenadeem, Bad, never run partials.19:38
nadeemi cant use the update manger anymore19:39
nadeemso what i have to do ?19:39
nadeemim new to ubuntu19:39
wilee-nileenadeem, You have missing dependencies, you can try and get it to regroup by waiting.19:39
nadeembut the update manger isnt working19:40
nadeemso how much i should wait19:40
wilee-nileewe all do this at least once unless warned it seems19:40
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lmatnadeem: um... did you use the console?19:40
wilee-nileenadeem, Hard to say if it will regroup to be honest, usually this if you had waited resolves it self rather soon.19:41
lmatnadeem: run   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ?19:41
lmatnadeem: Welcome to Ubuntu! Have you used linux much before ?19:41
nadeemnop19:41
nadeemno experiance what so ever19:41
lmatnadeem: How old are you ? And what systems have you used before ?19:41
lmatnadeem: Ahh, new to computing ?19:41
nadeem2919:41
nadeem12.04 lts i guess19:42
nadeemmy major was information technology19:42
nadeembut never used linux19:42
lmatnadeem: ahh, nice. So you have a clue :)19:42
nadeemyeah somtimes19:42
lmatnadeem: Go ahead and run the command I gave above (with && in it), and see what you get ?19:42
nadeemok19:42
wilee-nileenadeem, Hmm information tech, and it did not occur to google partial upgrade ubuntu. ;)19:42
nadeemill get back to u on that one19:43
lmathaha19:43
lmatnadeem: I don't use the GUI for things like updates, etc. and I would guess it's 1) more reliable and 2) more informative19:43
nadeemnaaa i thought ubuntu only do the good stuff and i trusted it19:43
ubukouanyone knows how to maximize my fps on gaming in ubuntu .. im running gtx 650 and i play with playonlinux. the game im trying to play is League of legends...19:43
ubukouany tips?19:43
nadeemubuntu reputation stopped me from google19:44
profligacyHa, what?19:44
wilee-nileegoogle runs on open source19:44
lmatubukou: new graphics card ?19:45
LopeI want to install kvm on ubuntu, but when I type which kvm it says kvm not found.19:45
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ubukoulmat, yes.. got an nvidia hoping i could use linux as my only desktop19:46
lmatubukou: Good idea. What problems are you having ?19:46
ubukoulmat, well lol runs well. but i cant get past 30 fps and medium quality19:47
lmatubukou: ahh, that's a problem :)19:47
ubukoulmat, i know its "good" but in a competitive game its not...19:47
lmatubukou: I have no idea. I barely use something more graphically featured than a framebuffer :o19:48
ubukoulmat, thanks anyway, i ll keep tinkering..19:48
yeyemanwhat is a better version of pidgin?19:49
yeyemanas in a better program19:49
lmatubukou: Don't neglect duckduckgo :)19:49
lmatyeyeman: What does pidgin do ?19:49
lmatyeyeman: Microsoft Lync ?19:49
lmathahahahahaha!!19:49
* lmat is soooo funny19:49
yeyemanHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE19:49
ubukoulmat,  i ll give it a go... i used it for some time but i got a bit tired for some results..19:50
yeyemangood one man!!!19:50
lmatubukou: I understand. You're sure your computer can do better ?19:50
lmatyeyeman: ^_^19:50
profligacyWhat is the best way to get practical experience programming?19:51
ubukoulmat,  well its a really good card...so..19:51
reisioprofligacy: by programming19:51
lmatubukou: And the rest of the system ?19:51
profligacyWhat is a good small-scale project that I can do just to familiarize myself with different components?19:51
reisioprofligacy: any particular language/s?19:51
lmatprofligacy: Are you trying to learn a language, or a framework,.. or OS ?19:51
profligacyreisio: Java or C#19:52
lmatprofligacy: Or technology19:52
reisioew19:52
lmatprofligacy: ahh19:52
ubukoulmat, quad core intel, 6 gigs ram plenty of watts... not convinced i cant do better19:52
lmatprofligacy: Those are very different. What are you wanting?19:52
lmatubukou: Sure. That sounds fine. (plenty of watts, really? :P)19:52
profligacyJust want to do be proficient, contribute on gitub projects, etc.19:53
lmatprofligacy: Are you wanting to be a professional programmer ? Or just explore the idea /19:53
profligacylmat: Professional19:53
lmatprofligacy: ah, good idea :) Have you ever written a java programmer ?19:53
lmats/programmer/program19:53
profligacylmat: Nothing exciting, no.19:53
profligacylmat: Just standard, undergrad assignments.19:53
lmatprofligacy: The first thing I think you need to do is learn how to use a computer. This is overlooked by *way* too many people. Don't neglect this part of learning how to program.19:53
lmatprofligacy: Learn how to use the shell (and of course, a good way to do that is to use it to write programs!)19:54
lmatprofligacy: So you know how to  javac and  java -cp, etc.19:54
nyjkkyjnGood evening to all.. Does anyone know if there is a way to change gdm background and font..?19:54
subterfugeusing cp I want to copy all files in one dir in to another dir (for a backup) -- I want to follow all links even symbolic and copy all data in all sub dir.  I don't want it to delete anything anywhere, if any file name exsist more than once I want it to amend the new file with something line .001 and so on...   I am reading the man file for cp and I have googled but i am a little lost on the arguments and how they work together -- can anyone help?19:54
ubukoulmat, not sure if underpowering a GPU can reduce the performance hahahhahaha.. nice way to put it tho, right????19:54
profligacylmat: This is exactly the type of advice I need.19:55
lmatubukou: ahh, watts going to your cpu/gpu, gotcha :)19:55
profligacylmat: Can the shell function as an IDE, or?19:55
lmatprofligacy: :)19:55
lmatprofligacy: Of course.19:55
lmatprofligacy: That's what I use for my IDE.19:55
lmatprofligacy: (I program java)19:55
reisiosubterfuge: so you want files in subdirectories into a new dir with no subdirectories?19:55
lmatprofligacy: Many use eclipse or whatever, but learn to use the shell (at least be able to)19:55
profligacyDo you know of any resources that I can use to learn how to be productive using shell?19:55
lmatsubterfuge: I've heard that the best way to do this is with tar. duckduckgo will show you.19:56
nightdreverhi again, how do i disable some startup items?19:56
lmatprofligacy: You can just start using the shell, but you'll want to do something in the shell.19:56
subterfugereisio: no I want to keep the directories and subdirectories intact19:56
profligacylmat: Who do you work for, anyone I might know?19:56
lmatprofligacy: That something should be programming since you want to learn to program :) Just realize that you're not *just* learning programming, but you're learning shell/filesystems , too.19:57
lmatprofligacy: Sure: Indiana University.19:57
profligacylmat: I underastand, but I just want to experiment and learn, perhaps heuristically19:57
lmatprofligacy: If you want to get good at Java, write a spring app (from scratch) to learn how it work.s19:57
lmatprofligacy: Everyone uses spring to manage their Java.19:57
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lmatprofligacy: Write the build script in shell (and the deploy script, too)19:58
lmatprofligacy: For instance,   find src -name '*.java' -exec javac -cp "$cp" -d dest {} \;19:58
lmatprofligacy: :)19:58
profligacyThanks lmat :)19:59
lmatprofligacy: Then you'll learn shell (you'll have to learn the find command, bash substitutions, quoting, and how to avoid globs to understand this example), java, and Spring all at the same time :)19:59
lmatprofligacy: yo.19:59
lmatprofligacy: the folks in #bash are masters.19:59
lmatprofligacy: If a little short-fused19:59
genii-o-lanternprofligacy , lmat .. Please remember this channel is for Ubuntu support. For programming, you might want to find a channel that's appropriate for the language you wish to use :)20:00
profligacyThanks lmat20:00
andrebhi all20:01
profligacyMy fault genii-o-lantern20:01
lmatgenii-o-lantern: Thanks.20:01
andrebi have mounted a network folder on a windows machine using dolphin .... how can i navigate to that share in the konsole ?20:01
genii-o-lanternDuring slow times it's not so bad for a bit, but overall it's better to just find the best channel for the questions you may have, etc20:02
nightdreveris there away to auto hide 'taskbar' at top of screen?20:03
genii-o-lanternandreb: just: mount     ...should tell you where the folder is mounted at, then you can do the cd  <directory-name-where-its-mounted>20:03
andrebgeni : i am not seeing it there...20:04
andrebi added it in dolphin under network20:05
nightdreveri dont mean the launcher just the bar at top of screen with time etc on it.....can i auto hide it?20:05
genii-o-lanternandreb: So you used some URL like:  smb://remote-machinename-or-ip/sharename   ?20:06
andrebgeni : i just used the gui in dolphin to add it20:08
andrebrm20:10
genii-o-lanternandreb: It might not actually be mounted then at the moment. If you want to access those types of shares from command-line, may want to look at the "Connecting using CIFS" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide20:11
andrebgeni : this is the command i have used/tried via command line to add the share from console : "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=bob //192.168.10.5/bob /media/samba20:11
andrebi can see and read teh folder.. but cant write to it :(20:11
hornypsychoguys20:12
hornypsychoi need help guys20:13
genii-o-lanternandreb: Sounds like the wherever the share is, the owner of the files and directories there is a different user than the one you are connecting with (or different group)20:13
hornypsychoi'm using xubuntu with 13.1020:13
hornypsychoand the xfce4-power-manager isn't working20:13
ceed^Is there a way to get an up arrow button to move up one level in the file manager in Ubuntu?20:14
hornypsychoanyone?20:16
genii-o-lanternhornypsycho: You're probably best to enquire in the #xubuntu channel, they are sure to know more than most of the helpers in here20:16
hornypsychothanks @genni-o-lantern20:17
TauNeutrinohey guys20:18
TauNeutrinoI need to do a freaking powerpoint presentation20:18
TauNeutrinoHow can I do this in freaking Ubuntu20:19
TauNeutrino?20:19
reisioTauNeutrino: with freaking LibreOffice20:19
hornypsychoinstall windows el o el20:19
TauNeutrinoI searched google and found this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Datenmigration/Powerpoint20:19
reisiololz20:19
wilee-nileewith freaking libreoffice20:19
TauNeutrinobut that's too much details20:19
TauNeutrinohm20:19
TauNeutrinono lo sucks20:19
wilee-nileereisio, beat me to it, lol. did not notice.20:20
reisioit does suck, just not compared to whatever you're comparing it to :p20:20
wilee-nileelol20:20
TauNeutrinoto powerpoint20:20
reisioright, that20:20
TauNeutrinooh ok20:20
TauNeutrinodamn I hate linux20:20
reisioikr20:20
reisioI do, too20:20
TauNeutrinobut I can't deinstall it20:20
TauNeutrinoI'm cursed20:20
TauNeutrinook wait20:20
TauNeutrinoany similar software like powerpoint?20:20
xangualibreoffice20:21
TauNeutrinoNO20:21
TauNeutrinoanother20:21
wilee-nileeare you like in hell TauNeutrino is this satans will20:21
TauNeutrinowhat?20:21
wilee-nileecursed20:21
TauNeutrinoyes20:21
wilee-nileeah say hi I will be by soon20:21
TauNeutrinook20:21
TauNeutrinowait20:21
trijntjeTauNeutrino: anything specific wrong with libreoffice?20:22
TauNeutrinocome on20:22
TauNeutrinoit's a text program20:22
TauNeutrinolike word20:22
trijntjelol20:22
trijntjeuse libreoffice impress20:22
TauNeutrinoimpress? As if it could impress me20:22
reisioahahahhaha20:22
bekkstrijntje: For creating slides instead of text?20:22
reisioclassic20:22
xanguaTauNeutrino: there is softmaker office, like 60 bucks20:22
TauNeutrinono20:22
TauNeutrinoI want everything free in live20:23
trijntjeTauNeutrino: use the program 'Libreoffice Impress' to make presentations, not 'Libreoffice writer', which is like word20:23
TauNeutrinoAh ok, I see the Libreoffice Impress icon on the left screen20:24
xangua......20:24
bekksTauNeutrino: Use Impress if you want to create slides...20:24
TauNeutrinook good, I'll try it, thanks :)20:25
TauNeutrinogee it looks similar to pp20:25
TauNeutrinogreat, good20:25
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ravenzzhello there20:28
trijntjehi ravenzz20:28
reisio'lo20:28
ravenzzhi trijntje20:28
ravenzzresio20:28
OxymoronDoes someone here use plex on Ubuntu?20:31
dimitrilcWhat is a good Linux-based centralized backup solution for enterprise?20:32
reisiocentralized?20:33
b1001do you guys know if its possible to pause/shutdown/poweroff a JUJU installation on localhost?20:33
bekksdimitrilc: bacula, areca, backuppc20:33
wilee-nileeOxymoron, They seem to have a forum, have you looked for a IRC channel?20:34
Lopehi I think my ubuntu 13.04 is missing the repository keys for raring http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Raring_Repositories#Add_repository_keys20:34
Lopecan you plz tell me what path to use to re-add them20:34
genii-o-lanternOxymoron: They do seem to have a channel with about 70-90 users in it at #plex20:35
Oxymoronwilee-nilee: Found one, but this seems to be some kind of ext4 or Ubuntu permissions error, as always. Frreaking HATE permissions in Linux, worst implementation ever. Soon I do chmod 777 / to open up everything, so all software can access everything.20:35
wilee-nileeyay more freaking20:36
xanguaLope: !gpgerr20:36
xanguatried the 'standard ones'¿20:36
xangua!gpgerr20:36
ubottuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »20:36
LopeI saw a command like sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 3B4FE6ACC0B21F3220:36
Lopebut I dunno what code to use.20:36
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bekksLope: then read what ubottu just said ;)20:36
Lopecool, we wrote at the same time sort of.20:37
Lopeso is that "standard repo" for raring?20:37
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tirengarfiomy upgrading to 13.10 has stopeed..20:37
wilee-nileeLope, a custom repo?20:37
LopeI'm running ubuntu 13.0420:37
Lopebut I've upgraded my kernel to 3.11.620:38
LopeI'm trying to install the apt package called dmidecode and apt says it can't be authenticated. I did apt-cache policy dmidecode Nd I see its coming from 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages20:39
wilee-nileetirengarfio, Look for any hidden popups hiding.20:39
pogiakohello20:39
automatikcan someone please help me to format my thumb drive. in the terminal under fdisk -l it tells me the drive is fat32 but is read only20:39
pogiakohow do i run c app in terminal?20:39
pogiakovia gedit20:39
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bekkspogiako: write it in gedit, save it, compile it, run it.20:40
Lopexangua: okay I loaded that standard key you mentioned but still getting an authentication error.20:41
pogiakoi compiled it via "gcc 'appname'" then trying to run a.out20:41
pogiakotyping a.out but aint any good20:41
bekks"aint any good" means what?20:42
pogiakohaha20:42
pogiakoi mean20:42
xbhyawhat would be the best distro to try out on a convertible ultrabook (lenovo helix)?  Something that handles touch pretty well along with regular mouse/keyboard.20:42
pogiakoit doesnt run20:42
bekks"doesnt run" means what?20:42
wilee-nileexbhya, Hmm, this is the ubuntu channel guess.20:42
bekks!details | pogiako20:42
ubottupogiako: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."20:42
pogiakohttp://bpaste.net/show/otxvGylXdUa24Y1ZpBhY/20:42
tirengarfiowilee-nilee, yes that is true, but the upgrading has crasheed, it has shown an message that it couldn't finish the upgrading..20:43
pogiakoa.out: command not found20:43
bekkspogiako: run: "./a.out"20:44
pogiakothen trying gcc with a.out,20:44
wilee-nileetirengarfio, Can you share it in a pastebin?20:44
pogiakoa.out: file not recognized: File truncated20:44
pogiakocollect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status20:44
xbhyahaha, I guess I should be more specific.  Does ubuntu handle touch gestured scrolling pretty well?  I think that's the big issue I saw in my youtubing.  People were visibly having a lot of trouble grabbing the scroll bars with their index fingers.20:44
tirengarfioit has dissapeared, sorry20:44
pogiakoomg20:44
tirengarfioi closed it..20:44
pogiakolove yah bekks!20:44
pogiakomwah!20:44
pogiakohahahaa! thanks! ;)20:44
FloodBot1pogiako: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:44
melkorAnybody here having an issue with nautilus consuming large amounts of CPU?20:44
pogiakosure sure ;)20:44
wilee-nileetirengarfio, This the download or install portion, and are you backed up?20:45
tirengarfio?20:45
tirengarfiothe upgrade to 13.1020:45
tirengarfioyes, I have backed up20:45
Lopewhere can I find the GPG keys for this repo? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/20:46
wilee-nileetirengarfio, There is a portion when it is just downloading then it installs, does this make sense?20:46
tirengarfioit was installing20:47
tirengarfioim going to reboot im scared..20:48
wilee-nileetirengarfio, A crash in the download is less problematic than the install is all. Ah the install, on the few times I have done upgrades and had problems I have run this command. sudo apt-get -f install to restart the install in the upgrade or from a command line in the reboot.20:48
wilee-nileesudo apt-get -f install20:48
wilee-nileecan I openly say upgrades suck. ;)20:50
orangepickdoes anyone use (ppa:ondrej/php520:52
orangepick) for php 5.4, is it safe to get code there?20:52
daftykinsno idea how to verify the legitimacy of a PPA20:53
reisiolegitimacy?20:53
wilee-nileeDressed as the queen of england for Halloween I say all you subjects do the time warp again, happy halloween.20:53
orangepicki don't want to download virus or malware :)20:54
reisiosure you do :)20:54
orangepicklol20:54
reisiooh actually20:54
daftykinsreisio: yip that's the word i used! :P20:54
reisioif you're trying to use PHP20:54
pogiakodo i still use return 0?20:54
reisioyou actually do20:54
pogiakowhen i write c in gedit?20:54
tirengarfioI have rebooted, till now, no problem20:55
reisio'cause PHP is all about making things insecure20:55
pogiakocoz whenever i do, it doesnt work right in terminal lol20:55
tirengarfioIm on 13.1020:55
pogiakowhats good in 13.10?20:55
pogiakocompared to .04 btw?20:55
daftykinspogiako: the website has answers to such questions20:55
bazhang!notes20:56
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.1020:56
pogiakoi dont use 'return 0' to finish my c code20:57
pogiakois that fine?20:57
pogiakocoz when i do put 'return 0', the app doesnt work20:57
bekkspogiako: You should ask a c language channel, since it isnt related to ubuntu.20:58
pogiakohaha20:58
bekkspogiako: That was no joke.20:58
pogiakothey were actually the ones who told me to go here20:58
pogiakothey mightbe windows users'20:58
pogiakoam just a jolly person ;)20:58
bekkspogiako: So in which channel did you ask?20:58
pogiakoc20:58
pogiakothen they told me wrong channel lol20:59
pogiakothey might be using windows20:59
bekkspogiako: They told you to join this channel to learn how to execute a program you just compiled.20:59
pogiakolol no20:59
pogiakothey told me to com here to get help20:59
bekkspogiako: You got help here - you learned how to execute a compiled program.21:00
pogiakoyeah i did thanks ;)21:00
pogiakowhat am asking now is, do i need to type return 0?21:00
bekkspogiako: That has nothing to do with ubuntu support.21:00
pogiakolol ikr21:01
cowbacon!offtopic | pogiako21:01
ubottupogiako: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:01
pogiakoback to c channel then ;)21:01
hggdhpogiako: but, to answer: no, you do not.21:02
pogiakocool ;)21:02
pogiakothanks21:02
pogiakowont that do something with memory?21:02
bekksNo.21:02
pogiakocoz return 0 tells c to stop right?21:02
pogiakoso it jsut stops without retunr 0?21:02
hggdhpogiako: now you are really off-topic21:02
pogiakohaha ok ill stop21:03
hplcwhats the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?21:03
bekkspogiako: Thank you.21:03
reisiohplc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random#Linux21:03
hggdhhplc: dev/random will only return if there is enough entropy to generate a new random value. /dev/urandom will *always* return, even with bad entropy21:03
hplcso urandom is not the one to use for making a encryption pad?21:04
wilee-nileetirengarfio, have you run a update to make sure you up to date?21:04
wilee-nileeyou're21:05
slnshankara21:07
Duggyd21:09
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Eth0R3heyo21:11
slnHi, everyone, Can I discuss problem with graphics here?21:11
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tirengarfiowilee-nilee, I have tried to upgrade to 13.10 but it says im on the last version21:12
k1l_tirengarfio: please pastebin "lsb_release -a"21:13
FruckiwackiHello, is it possible to install Ubuntu with alternate cd on a existing harddrive that has LVM volumes on LUKS?21:13
wilee-nileetirengarfio, try running sudo apt-get -f install21:13
Ari-Yangsln: yes, just state your problem...21:14
slnI am using precise 3rd service pack. It was working great from past 2 years, now, sometimes every new window appears blank and white in colour21:14
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, which release the alternate has been changed to a net install in 12.10 I believe.21:14
Ari-Yangsln: you should also state what driver you are using and what gpu you have.21:15
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, it was some recent saucy-alternate-amd64.iso21:15
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, Look at the the size is it about 30MIB?21:15
slnI am using atom 410 processor.21:15
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, ~700mb21:15
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wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, Ah, hmm is this a canonical?21:16
slnAri-yang: I am using Atom 410 processor.21:16
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, Is it ubuntu or lubuntu or another?21:16
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, oh - its lubuntu - just noticed21:17
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, Is that what you want, I'm not sure on the actual question, just noticed the alternate reference is all, the net does not encrypt I believe21:18
slnAri-yang : I don't know which GPU it has, I may be inbuilt  in the Atom processor.21:19
slnAri-yang: If I guess I am using intel graphics driver.21:19
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, the situation is: I have 1 hdd which is fully encrypted via Luks, LVM is on top of it. Under Archlinux i created a logical volume for the Ubuntu installation.21:19
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Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, Starting the Ubuntu alternate installer it cannot find the logical volume because its under the decrypted cryptroot21:20
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, I would assume this is possible, however get the right disc, and confirmation for what you want and need, all those tools I see here used. I would advise against encryption in general, but its a bit late for that now, lol. ;)21:21
pardusehi , i have sudo apt-get install pisg 'ed but cant find the pisg.cfg file anywahere on my pc21:21
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, Be careful caling it a ubuntu alternate, it does not exist in that release.21:22
duxbHey, ever since I upgraded to 13.10, my custom keyboard shortcuts, through the keyboard system properties dialog don't work, any ideas? Known bug?21:22
trijntjeparduse: dpkg -L psig21:22
wilee-nileeduxb, You probably have to re do them, have you?21:23
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, oh ok. So what version to choose? Desktop Version? I guess its able to build a minimal system?21:23
slnAri-Yang:  "jockey-text -l"  is not giving any aoutput21:23
duxbin 13.04, I'd have to reset them every time I restarted, since I upgraded I have completely removed and readded, still nothing.21:23
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, I'm not sure really, I was mainly concerned with accurate communication, I know nothing on this setup.21:23
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Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, ok, i will start over with a 13.10 release .iso :)21:25
pardusety trijntje21:25
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, A net install the new alternative with ubuntu is a minimal if you want, however I don't know if it will encrypt, or be actually the best here.21:25
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wilee-nileetirengarfio, That command restart the upgrade?21:26
freeleechyoutube-viewer seems to need a perl update. I can't seem to find it by googling it21:27
duxbany ideas on the keyboard shortcut thing?21:27
wilee-nileeduxb, You might describe how you are assigning the keys, details rule here.21:28
slnI am using ubuntu 12.04.3 on an atom processor(410), Know, after using some after logging in every new windows appears white and blank. How to check which graphics driver I am using?21:28
wilee-nileesln, lspci will name the hardware, you aware of a the nomodeset option.21:29
slnI tried "jockey-text -l" , but, got an error message.21:29
pipsqueakerCan anyone help me with this problem http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1pn41f/i_just_installed_ubuntu_on_my_macbook_pro_and_im/21:29
pipsqueakerInstaled Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro, wireless has been giving me trouble21:29
pipsqueakerIf you could look at the reddit thread above and give me feedback, I'd love the help21:30
wilee-nilee!bcm | pipsqueaker21:30
ubottupipsqueaker: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx21:30
duxbI'm using the system settings menu > keyboard > shortcuts > custom shortcuts > add, using a command that I've tested from terminal, and a binding of Super+Enter( keypad )21:30
slnwilee-nilee, sorry, I don't know nomodset option.21:30
daftykins!nomodeset | sln21:31
ubottusln: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:31
pipsqueakerubottu what's the command to check wireless card model?21:31
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:31
hayspipsqueaker: do you have 4313 by chance and updated to saucy and things broke?21:31
wilee-nilee!nomodeset | sln a low graphic boot21:31
ubottusln a low graphic boot: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:31
daftykinspipsqueaker: lspci / lsusb21:31
pipsqueaker<hays> no21:31
pipsqueakerHave you read it?21:31
pipsqueakerIt's a wierd situation where wireless actually works21:31
pipsqueakerbut all networks are hidden unless I connect to one21:32
wilee-nileepipsqueaker, Your wifi should show if you run lspci in the cli21:32
haysto get my bcm4313 working i had to move to a newer kernel.. there was some regression in the 3.8 series kernels  and i think 3.9 and 3.10 also21:32
pipsqueakerit;s not a simple driver issue, give it a read will you?21:32
pipsqueakerLast time spamming the link:21:32
pipsqueakerhttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1pn41f/i_just_installed_ubuntu_on_my_macbook_pro_and_im/21:32
wilee-nileepipsqueaker, Its rather uncommon to use a link this way.21:32
pipsqueakerwhy?21:33
wilee-nileepipsqueaker, we communicate the details on the channel is all.21:33
pipsqueakerI'm sorry21:33
pipsqueakerit's just that I would have liked a permanent place to have the solution stored21:33
wilee-nileeno biggie, just pushing it will get no where in general.21:33
hayslspci | grep -i bcm21:33
slnI entered "lspci" in the command line,21:34
hayspipsqueaker: lspci | grep -i bcm21:34
wilee-nileesln, hit enter look for the wifi info21:34
pipsqueakerNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM433121:35
wilee-nileesln,er graphic doh21:35
pipsqueakerSo just to get the details on this channel21:35
pipsqueakerI installed 12.04 on my macbook pro, wireless drivers were missing21:35
pipsqueakergoogled it, typed in a few commands21:35
pipsqueakerto install drivers21:35
pipsqueakerrebooted, and none of networks showed up21:36
hayspipsqueaker: so you are using the b43 drivers?21:36
wilee-nileepipsqueaker, sounds like hays may have some answers, not sure if apples are any different, but most use the bots link I sent you. although it seems to be working just everything is hidden.21:36
pipsqueakerI could connect to my home network by the "connect to hidden networks" submenu,21:36
slnwilee-nilee: ok. It says "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller"21:36
pipsqueakerwhen that happened, all the other ones showed up21:36
ratsilvaportugal21:36
ratsilvahelp21:37
pipsqueakerwilee-nilee the networks were never hidden when I ran windows or Mac OSX on the same device21:37
wilee-nileesln, generally intel stuff works, have you tweaked the desktop, say compiz...etc?21:37
hayspipsqueaker: are you using the b43 drivers21:37
slnwilee-nilee: yes.21:38
wilee-nileepipsqueaker, It is rather unusual yes.21:38
pipsqueakerhays fwcutter-b43 and firmware-b43-installar?21:38
wilee-nileesln, Did you have a normal desktop at some point?21:38
pipsqueakerUsing those21:38
slnwilee-nilee, Yes, It is working now also ,21:38
hayspipsqueaker: you are on 12.04?21:38
pipsqueakerYes21:38
wilee-nileesln, So fixed?21:38
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hayspipsqueaker: that sounds like the packages for 8 ans 1021:39
kostkonsln, you could try resetting unity/compiz21:39
pipsqueakerhays I followed instructions from this website http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/macbook-pro-wifiwireless-drivers-for.html21:39
sln<wilee-nilee: but, after running some time, every message box appears only white21:39
slnI could not reset unity.21:39
kriskropddoes anyone know of a midi editor with a piano roll appearance (such as in fl studio or lmms or most midi editors), however is built on ncurses and runs in a bash shell?21:39
duxbcan anybody set a keyboard shortcut in 13.10 and see if it works, just to see if it's a bug, or a problem with my settings?21:39
pipsqueakerhays: I followed instructions from this website http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/macbook-pro-wifiwireless-drivers-for.html21:39
wilee-nileesln, seems the tweaking has done this can you detail all that out?21:39
hayspipsqueaker: try uninstalling thouse and install linux-firmware-nonfree21:40
kostkonsln, l'd say it's a problem with compiz21:40
pipsqueakerI've tried that21:40
* wilee-nilee puts on his carnac cap21:40
kostkoni'd*21:40
pipsqueakerhays still doesnt work21:40
hayspipsqueaker: no effect?21:40
hayssame problem?21:40
pipsqueakersame problems21:40
slncan it be reinstalled? konstkon: wilee-nilee21:40
kostkonsln, reset21:40
wilee-nileesln, Try the reset, what release is this?21:41
slnyes, wilee-nilee, I can tell21:41
slnhow to reset?21:41
wilee-nileesln, different per releases, what release?21:41
kostkonsln, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html21:41
pipsqueakerhays you still there?21:41
slnwilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04.321:42
hayspipsqueaker: yep. not sure what to say.. the bcm4331 drivers are reverse engineered so..21:42
hayspipsqueaker: you could try the latest kernel but i don't think that will help21:42
pipsqueakeryeah, it hasnt21:42
wilee-nileesln, That link should work.21:43
pipsqueakerhays the odd this is that I've installed Ubuntu on this Mac before21:43
wilee-nileeor at least is correct21:43
hayspipsqueaker: you tried the latest kernel? 3.11.4?21:43
pipsqueakerhays I've come up against the drivers msiing issue, but this is the first time that I'm getting this hidden-network iddue21:43
wilee-nileesln, Problem here really is, lack of any details.21:43
pipsqueakerhays I have, is there a command to check kernel version?21:43
hayspipsqueaker: uname -a21:44
bekkspipsqueaker: "uname -a"21:44
kostkonpipsqueaker, uname -a21:44
kostkon:P21:44
slnOK. I will try that now. wilee-nilee: kostkon.21:44
pipsqueakeroutput from said command21:44
pipsqueaker 3.8.0-32-generic #47~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 16:19:35 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux21:44
slncan I do that while I am here?21:44
wilee-nileesln, May need a reboot most likely as well after21:44
Ari-Yang[17:43:37] <hays> pipsqueaker: you tried the latest kernel? 3.11.4? ---> latest stable kernel is 3.11.621:44
duxbcan I please get someone to confirm that keyboard shortcuts set through the system settings > keyboard > shortcuts > custom shortcuts dialog is broken in general or just me?21:44
hayspipsqueaker: ok this is a longshot. but grab debs for 3.11.421:44
pipsqueakerhow?21:45
haysAri-Yang: oh ok even better21:45
pipsqueakerI'm a noob to linux21:45
slnok. Thanks. wilee-nilee, kostkon.21:45
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.6-saucy/21:45
hayspipsqueaker: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/linux-kernel-3-11-6-upgrade-ubuntu-linux-mint/21:45
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: download the .deb of the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd6421:46
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: put it all in a folder, cd into using terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb21:46
Ari-Yangthen reboot21:46
hayspipsqueaker: im suggesting this because there was something funky for me that was fixed in 3.11 with my broadcom. for me it was showing hardware disabled21:46
pipsqueakerwhy are these all named saucy though?21:46
pipsqueakerI'm precise21:46
hayspipsqueaker: because you are running a newer kernel21:46
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: that's the name of the kernel...21:47
haysthere are no deps for the kernel it shouldnt be a problem21:47
Ari-YangAkaigo-Arc 3.11.4-031104-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal21:47
Ari-Yang^ pipsqueaker21:47
pipsqueakerkk21:47
Ari-YangI'm on quantal and running on 3.11.421:47
haysi dont think even saucy is doing 3.11 yet.. at least when i was running it21:47
hayshad to add those myself21:48
pipsqueakerdownloading kernel now21:48
Ari-Yanghays: ubuntu 13.10 is running on kernel 3.1121:48
wilee-nileesaucy is 3.11.0-1221:48
haysAri-Yang: hm. weird that it wasn't for me21:48
k1l_hays: when did you run saucy? 3.11 is long time in saucy, at least since alpha21:48
haysbut irrelevant now.. im on 3.11.421:48
haysa few days ago21:48
Ari-Yanghays: why are you running 3.11.4?21:49
pipsqueakerhays Ari-Yang will the drivers I have installed interfere with the functioning of the new kernel, once it's installed?21:49
k1l_hays: then there was something wrong with the version you used21:49
haysAri-Yang: because I thought it was the latest when I struggled with this issue a few days ago21:49
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: that depends.... are you using proprietary dirvers?21:49
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: if they are proprietary drivers, you'll have to use the free/open source drivers21:49
hayspipsqueaker: i think you will want to uninstall and reinstall the linux-nonfree-firmware package (or wahtever it was called)21:49
pipsqueakergot it21:50
duxbLast call for someone to help me with the keyboard shortcut thing before I leave?21:50
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: what graphics card do you have?21:50
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pipsqueakernvidia 650m 1gb21:50
Dr_Willisduxb:  you did search on askubuntu.com ?21:50
duxbno, just googled and searched launchpad, I'll try there21:51
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: go to software-sources and go to the 'Additional drivers' tab and make sure that it doesn't say proprietary drivers are in use.21:51
Ari-Yangif it doesn't, you're good to go21:51
haysi believe he needs to be using this b43 drivers21:52
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: see, this is what mine looks like http://gyazo.com/ce84017b9822cee41c254d375bd4311021:52
hayswhich are open source but maybe nonfree?21:52
pipsqueakernone in use21:53
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: 'k, you're good to go.21:53
pipsqueakerisnt it unsafe to be able to see the IPs of users when they join?21:54
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: make sure to download the headers too after downloading the image21:54
pipsqueaker(I dont understand the internet all that much)21:54
Ari-Yangmeh21:54
Ari-Yangno big deal21:54
pipsqueakerAri-Yang I just used instructions from http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/linux-kernel-3-11-6-upgrade-ubuntu-linux-mint/21:54
pipsqueakerthat good?21:54
pipsqueakerCommands done, I'm ready to reboot21:55
haysgo for it21:55
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: I guess...21:55
Ari-Yanggo on ahead, reboot21:55
slnwilee-nilee: I reset the unity, It changed everything to default. but, the command is not completed.21:55
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: you did make sure to download the right ones right?21:55
slnit hung at "Setting Update "run_key"/21:55
Ari-Yangseeing how you're on 64bit you'd download the amd6421:56
Dr_Willispipsqueaker:  irc has been around for decades (i used to irc in the 1980's) :) if you want to hide your ip theres ways to do it.21:56
wilee-nileesln, I Believe thats how it run, close it and reboot and make sure it's normal.21:56
wilee-nileeruns*21:56
slnThere was also an error: G_IS_OBJECT failed21:56
kostkonsln, yeah it's normal. it restarted unity21:56
kostkonsln, ignre the errors and warnings21:56
slnok. many thanks. wilee-nilee: and kostkon21:57
haysi have a feeling this kernel upgrade isn't going to help pipsqueaker, but its worth a shot21:57
Ari-Yanghays: what's his problem again?21:58
pipsqueaker_I just rebooted, unfortunately the all-networks-hidden problem persists21:58
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker: what's the output of uname -r ?21:58
haysAri-Yang: his networks are all hidden21:58
Ari-Yanghuh21:58
pipsqueaker_3.11.6-031106-generic21:59
Ari-Yangyou mean like in network manager?21:59
pipsqueaker_Yeah21:59
Ari-Yangyeah uhh... upgrading the kernel wouldn't help much I doubt in this case.21:59
pipsqueaker_I can connect to them through the "hidden networks" submenu21:59
alazyworkaholicMy computer won't boot from its HDDs anymore and I wasn't able to repair it with 'boot-repair'. Would someone be willing to help me out & take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6337966/21:59
pipsqueaker_and then all available networks show up and I can connect21:59
haysits possible an API call in the driver is broken21:59
pipsqueaker_but I need to do the connect via hidden network thig every time21:59
Ari-Yangdunno...22:00
pipsqueaker_I might try just reinstalling Ubuntu at this point honestly22:00
Ari-Yangone would update the kernel for e.g. better/improved hardware support...22:00
pipsqueaker_see but that's the thing22:00
hayspipsqueaker_: try iwlist22:00
Ari-Yanglike the reason why I upgraded was so that I can have dynamic power management on the open source radeon driver, and hardware video decoding support.22:01
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pipsqueaker_typing that gave me a list of options22:01
pipsqueaker_which one do I pick hays22:01
haysAri-Yang: i had to upgrade because for whatever reason the brcmsmac driver was disabling my wireless card22:01
Ari-Yang*nod*22:02
pipsqueaker_Remind me- if I reinstall 12.04 and upgrade my kernel is that basically the same as getting 13.04 w/o the UI changes?22:02
haysiwlist scan maybe?22:02
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, Have you tried booting from the sdc HD first?22:02
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker_: if you install 12.04 LTS, you can upgrade the kernel like you did just now22:03
Ari-Yang12.04.3 runs on kernel 3.822:03
hayspipsqueaker_: that's incorrect but close to correct22:03
pipsqueaker_ hays Ari-Yang here's my iwlist scan http://pastebin.com/Q6A6ZbqB22:03
kostkonpipsqueaker_, as getting 13.10*22:03
Private_Userhi guys, Dr_Willis, how do you hide the IP. I remember back in the days when I used to use IRC I had a IRC client that did it for me... or was it one of the administrators that sorted that out for me mmm... cannot remember now its been that long ago now22:03
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker_: you are still running on 12.04 if you upgrade the kernel to 3.1122:03
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, windows is in sda the windows boot id sdc, and sdc has the only grub in the mbr, that is one messed up setup.22:03
Ari-Yangyou're just running on a different kernel is all.22:03
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pipsqueaker_k22:04
k1l_Private_User: register with freenode and ask for a cloak  in #freenode22:04
pipsqueaker_*sigh* I wish Ubuntu played well with macs22:04
hayswell it shows one network.. heh22:04
pipsqueaker_all I want is linux on this thing22:04
pipsqueaker_yeah, because I'm connected to it22:04
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker_: file a bug report?22:04
haysthe problem is broadcom22:04
pipsqueaker_where?22:04
Private_Userthanks k1l_ much appreciated22:05
haysif iwlist doesn't show it seems like the problem is lower than ubuntu and likely in the b43 driver22:05
pipsqueaker_hays well I've used those drivers before on this very mac, never had a problem with it22:05
haysyou could maybe try an older version.. dunno22:05
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: the set-up worked for ages like this: a 64GB SSD (sdd) holds /boot (ext4) and / for linux. I keep /home as a raid0 on the pair of large drives (sda, sdc), sdb & sde are for backups.22:05
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, actually you have grub in the sdb sdc and sde, must be one of them to boot hopefully22:05
Ari-Yangpipsqueaker_: file a bug report?22:06
pipsqueaker_Ari-Yang where?22:06
* Ari-Yang shrugs22:06
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: and I kept windows around on a little part of the bigger drives22:06
pipsqueaker_alright guys, thanks for the help22:06
pipsqueaker_I gtg22:06
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, sdd has syslinux now, I know m=nothing about raid is all.22:07
hayspipsqueaker_: try #bcm-users maybe22:07
elaleph1971#ubuntu-es22:07
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: ok, thanks. I don't recall doing anything to make "cannot locate bootmgr" appear at boot time, but what do I have to do with boot-repair now to put grub in its proper place?22:07
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: sdd has syslinux now ?huh?22:07
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: when I installed 13.10 I told the installer to put the boot loader on the 64 gb ssd (sdd)22:08
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, Not sure really, sdd has syslinux in the mbr its on that script at the top. Two linux install and a windows with the boot partition split off and a raid. All I can say is just because it worked did not mean you would ahve any easy fix if broken, or was even optional.22:09
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, the bootrepair puts the syslinux in when fixing at times, I would find the bopotrepair thread at the ubuntu forums and post that script.22:10
wilee-nileebootrepair*22:10
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wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, the inventor (I use that phrase loosly, lol) of the boot repair has a thread and is pretty good at clean up yo might talk with them. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=176948222:13
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: thanks. I'll try that if necessary. If I could just get grub to install on the right drive I'd be happy. boot-repair has so many "restore the mbr of" options, even for sdd, that I'm a tad lost.22:15
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, You can chroot to the sdd install and put grub in the mbr.22:16
Dr_Willissort of odd to be using syslinux to boot a hard drive. :)22:16
Dr_Willisnormally only see that on usb-live, or optical disks.22:17
devilcodehello22:17
alazyworkaholicwilee-nilee: that vaguely sounds like a good idea. How would I go about that?22:17
Resu_Etavirpbrb22:17
alazyworkaholicDr_Willis: what is syslinux? what's its relation to boot?22:18
wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, read carefully not real hard and a single command to do the chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_Boot-Repair_Graphical_Tool-122:18
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Dr_Willisalazyworkaholic:  its a bootloader like grub and lilo. its normally used on cds22:19
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, YannBuntu is an odd person, although this tool is helping many, a whole lotta cleanup is still done, glad I know at least this much of the cli.22:19
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Dr_WillisSYSLINUX is a boot loader for the Linux operating system which runs on an MS-DOS/Windows FAT filesystem. It is intended to simplify first-time installation of Linux, and for creation of rescue and other special purpose boot disks.22:19
wilee-nileethose french you know, hehe22:20
Dr_WillisISOLINUX is a boot loader for Linux/i386 that operates off ISO 9660/El Torito CD-ROMs in "no emulation" mode. This avoids the need to create an "emulation disk image" with limited space (for "floppy emulation") or compatibility problems (for "hard disk emulation".)22:20
Dr_Willismost live cd's use isolinux.22:20
bekksDr_Willis: Thanks for the explanation, I didnt know that.22:21
Dr_Williswell - bbl22:21
alazyworkaholicI guess it may have been installed when I first tried using the standard repair options of boot-repair with my complicated setup22:21
Dr_Willisubuntu live usb - ive had to tweak their rathe complex syslinux setup files befor..22:21
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wilee-nileealazyworkaholic, You can move that windows boot to the C partition of windows to have it on the same HD if needed with a recovery or install disc if your booting it or want to.22:29
CharlieSuHow can I install MySQL without having it start after install?22:30
bekksCharlieSu: Install it regurlarly, then configure it to not start automatically.22:31
duxbdoes unity-panel-service have a memory leak in 13.10? when I first log in, mine uses 5.7M, but after a few days, it's over 500M22:31
CharlieSubekks: I want to install it regularly but I don't want it to start after the install is done..  Apache and MySQL are exampels of services that automatically start upon installation..22:32
bekksCharlieSu: Why dont you just stop it after the installation?22:33
xanguaduxb: mine is at 66M currently22:33
xanguaeven more than compiz22:33
duxbxangua, how long have you been logged in?22:33
xanguaduxb: almost half a day, i upgrade to 13.10 yesterday22:34
CharlieSubekks: That is an option, but I'd rather not have to do that..  Seems silly.. Especially things like MySQL where I may want to init my DB differently.22:34
bekksCharlieSu: Then let ot start, shut it down, and configure it the way you want.22:34
CharlieSubekks: lol.. ok. you obviously don't have an answer..  thx22:35
bekksCharlieSu: There is no way to regularly install it but having it not starting after installation.22:35
bekksCharlieSu: The only way would be to create a custom installation package. Which is FAR more effort then just shutting it down after installation. Did you want to hear that=22:36
duxbYeah, unity-panel-service adds about 200-300K every time a program is launched, never deletes22:36
* wilee-nilee puts 20$ on bekks argument22:36
peyamHi, If I install tlp , do I have to uninstall the powermanager ?22:37
duxbCharlieSu, if you can find the system file that contains all the programs launched on boot and remove mysql from that22:37
duxbI can't remember what the file is though22:38
bekksduxb: Which will not inhibit mysql to be started right after the installation.22:38
duxbtrue22:38
bekkswilee-nilee: ;)22:38
wilee-nileeI'm in for the win. ;)22:38
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peyamAnybody? if I install TLP, do I have to uninstall the default power manager?22:39
duxbCharlieSu, can you tell us why you don't want it to start the first time after install?22:39
bekksduxb: He wants to initialize the db differently.22:39
yeyemanhow do I bind backspace to go back one step in the file manager?22:40
duxbwhat if you preconfigure all it's files, installler asks if you want to overwrite them, don't then blam, launches after install with your desired settings22:40
yeyemandidn't ubuntu used to have this feature? hmm22:40
yeyemanI mean it's pretty basic, even xubuntu has it22:41
yeyemanor rather xfce then22:41
k1l_yeyeman: gnome reduced the functions in nautilus22:41
duxbdifferent file manager, yeyem22:41
duxbor at least different default file manager22:41
yeyemancan I easily implement it?22:41
duxbYou could just use thundar, or whatever filemanager XFCE4 uses22:42
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yeyemanand can I set it as system default then somehow?22:45
yeyemanI haven't tried changeing it before22:45
yeyemanbut get the feeling that if i click 'open directory' from some application nautilus will open anyway22:45
yeyemanand that inconsistency would be worse than not being able to backspace22:46
yeyemanyou know what I mean?22:46
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duxbhave you tried googling "change default file browser in ubuntu"?22:51
duxbhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager22:51
sam113101on linux you use the file manager you want, unlike on windows22:52
sam113101apps shouldn't call a particular browser directly22:52
sam113101they call some app that selects the default browser22:52
okay19I just finished installing Ubuntu 13.10 alongside Windows 8.1, but I can't get the GRUB menu to appear.22:52
sam113101wow22:52
sam113101why am I even talking of browsers22:53
* sam113101 is extremely sleep deprived22:53
duxbdid you try grub repair from a live cd?22:53
okay19duxb: I ran boot repair, which did not fix it.22:53
sam113101okay19: does windows or ubuntu boot?22:54
okay19sam113101: Windows22:54
okay19sam113101: This is UEFI by the way22:54
duxbdoesn't 8 have a locked bootloader?22:54
sam113101how many drives do you have on your machine?22:54
okay19duxb: I disabled secure boot22:54
okay19sam113101: Just 122:54
okay19sam113101: Boot repair gave me a paste link, do you want it?22:55
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sam113101ok22:55
okay19sam113101: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338196/22:55
bigmacIs there a way of determine which kernel headers are needed and install them?23:02
bekkssudo apt-get install linux-headers23:03
KotaroDesignHello, I got a slight problem with the Mailserver. I am using postfix and courier, in order to get IMAP working. Unfortunately everytime I try to login with telnet localhost 143, it doesn't let me. POP3 works, but IMAP doesn't. Can anyone help?23:06
sam113101okay19: I'd try putting the boot flag on sda8 instead23:07
dr_willis!headers23:09
ubottuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages23:09
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okay19sam113101: How would I do that?23:09
sam113101okay19: boot on the ubuntu live cd and run gparted23:10
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Arpad2mouse not working after upgrade23:17
Dr_Willisrun xev from a terminal. see if it spits out any mouse info  perhaps?23:18
Arpad2ok, terminal is also in a very small window23:19
Dr_Willisthats the xev input window. any input it gets from anything - it will print info out to the terminal23:20
Dr_Willissudo cat /dev/input/mice         normally prints out 'gibberish'  when you move the mouse around also.23:20
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Dr_Willisif neither of those show mouse movements with some output.. thats a sign of  what i would think would be a kernel type issue.23:21
Arpad2but don't know how to resize terminal window without mouse23:21
Arpad2or how to move the wondow23:21
jasicclefebvre: dude23:22
Dr_Willissudo cat /dev/input/mice     try this command. it should work form any terminal. or  console23:22
jasicclefebvre: are u there?23:22
Dr_Willisalso look at what devices are in /dev/input    i got a mouse1 mouse0 and mice     devices23:22
Arpad2it is showing some strange signs23:24
Arpad2its not showing anything23:26
Arpad2if I move the mouse the strange signs appears in the terminal23:27
Dr_Willisthats showing the mice device is working then.23:29
Dr_Willisso its aparently X thats not reading the right device.23:29
Dr_Willisdo you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?23:29
Dr_Willisif so - look in it - with a text editor. see if thers some line  mentioning /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0 or mice,  it may be its not set to be reading from /dev/input/mice like it should23:30
Arpad2ok23:31
Arpad2there is no xorg.conf, only xorg.conf.backup23:33
Dr_Willisas a test you could cp the xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf and try restarting the x server.23:33
Dr_Willismost machines dont need an xorg.conf these days - X auto configures23:33
Dr_Willisbe back in a bit23:33
jimmyjamesguys I got a transparent box on my unity desktop, when I reboot is the only time I can see it, I can't figure out what it is.23:34
TauNeutrinoHey ubuntians23:35
johnny86hi23:35
TauNeutrinoHey Ubuntians23:35
impossiblehow do i execute jar file from terminal?23:35
impossibledoes java -jar (file) work?23:36
bekksimpossible: java -jar jarfile23:36
impossiblebekks thanks23:36
TauNeutrinoHow can I convert *.odt in *.doc ?23:36
scottalanafter a reboot on ubuntu 12.04 LTS I can't ping nor ssh into the box. Has anyone experienced this that would mind telling me what it might have been for them. I've tried everything I could think of.23:38
wilee-nileeTauNeutrino, In or to and in what app word or freaky libreoffice23:39
scottalanI've booted into a rescue mode and removed/reset everything I could think of including removing iptables23:39
TauNeutrinowhat?23:40
TauNeutrinocan you rephrease this in english?23:40
TauNeutrinorephrase lol23:40
wilee-nileeTauNeutrino, funny that's what I said on your post "odt in doc"23:40
TauNeutrino;D23:41
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TauNeutrinocome ooonn, how??23:41
TauNeutrinofreaking how23:41
wilee-nileeTauNeutrino, odt TO doc?23:41
TauNeutrinoyeaaass23:41
wilee-nileeTauNeutrino, Save ass has an option.23:42
TauNeutrinohow can I transmutate odt in freaking doc23:42
TauNeutrinowhat ass?23:42
wilee-nileeoops save as23:42
TauNeutrinolol23:42
TauNeutrinoxD23:42
wilee-nileejust following your lead23:42
hitsujiTMOscottalan: can you ssh with the -v flag23:42
hitsujiTMOscottalan: whats the exact error you get with that?23:43
z1hazeim in desperate need of help :(23:43
z1hazei run a minecraft server on a ubuntu server and now whenever i try to access the control panel from the web the screen terminates with an error saying:23:44
z1hazeGot a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates23:44
z1hazea fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries23:44
z1hazeused by your application.23:44
FloodBot1z1haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:44
loganrunhow do I resetup video card drivers23:44
loganrunthings are screwed up after upgrade23:44
z1hazewould anyone have a clue how to help me out?23:44
pfifotrick, treat or ubuntu support :D23:45
z1hazeits been down for almost a full day, and i have many players that play and this is very bad23:45
wilee-nileeloganrun, drivers generally don't follow a distro upgrade, these ppa fetched drivers or proprietary, details work here..23:45
pfifoz1haze: i have the best luck with minecraft by running the latest java from oracle23:45
z1hazethe java is up to date23:46
TauNeutrinohey libre Office is not that bad23:46
bekksz1haze: Which version is your java?23:46
loganrunwell I did some apt-get command which apparently removed a bunch of linux-headers-3.2.0-XX-generic-pae that could have done it also23:46
loganrunin any event what the heck do I do to set the video back up23:46
TauNeutrinoHow is libre pronaunced?23:47
z1hazei assume 723:47
z1hazehow do i check to be sure23:47
TauNeutrinolaybrii?23:47
bekksz1haze: "java -version"23:47
z1hazethis has been fine then all of the sudden yesterday it happened23:47
z1hazejava version "1.7.0_40"23:47
loganrunhow do I set up the video card23:47
bekksthats not current ;)23:47
wilee-nileeTauNeutrino, like dracula on halloween23:47
z1hazebut i mean it was fine23:48
TauNeutrinowhat?23:48
z1hazethis is what happened23:48
TauNeutrinoI'm a freaking german23:48
z1hazea few days ago i installed mono-complete23:48
z1hazeand launched the .exe version of the server23:48
z1hazebecause i dont know what im doing23:48
wilee-nileenot far from Transylvania eh, closer than me23:48
TauNeutrinohehe23:48
z1hazebut i closed all that, or at least i think so, and now i run the right process and it was fine for a few days23:49
TauNeutrinodräkular23:49
TauNeutrinono wait23:49
TauNeutrinodracular is dracular23:49
z1hazenot all of the sudden it messs up every time i access the URL of the control panel23:49
TauNeutrinocan you see the letters: öööööööööääääääääää23:49
TauNeutrino?23:49
z1hazeif i start the process in a new screen the server stays online23:49
hitsujiTMOTauNeutrino: libre is french ... that should give you an idea on the pronunciation23:49
z1hazeand u can get on and play, BUT if i try to access the internet control panel for the server, it crashes23:49
z1hazeplease help23:49
TauNeutrinohm23:49
TauNeutrinonot sure23:49
TauNeutrinowhat's wrong z1haze?23:50
TauNeutrinowhat's cracking?23:51
jimmyjamesjust checking : none knows what the transparent box is on unity? only visible when I reboot or shutdown. I have looked for docs and searched google with no luck, its just bugging me I got to know lol23:51
z1hazei run a minecraft server, and for some reason now anytime i access the cpanel from the web, it crashes the server, by terminating the screen23:51
z1hazehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6338447/23:51
TauNeutrinoI typed libre in some language speaking website23:51
hitsujiTMOTauNeutrino: http://translate.google.com/#fr/en/libre23:51
Dr_WillisTauNeutrino:  Liiii-Brrrrrrr23:52
Dr_Willis;)23:52
z1hazecan u help?23:52
TauNeutrinoahh23:52
TauNeutrinoyees23:52
z1hazeit does then when i access the url of the control panel from the web23:52
TauNeutrinoyes, right Dr23:52
z1hazejust closes right exactly when u load the page23:52
z1hazeits really weird23:52
bekksz1haze: SIGSEGV appearingall of a sudden most likely indicate defective RAM.23:53
Dr_WillisMy Brother in law is a french chef.. we always try to annoy him by miss-pronounceing french terms in the worst possible way. ;)23:53
wilee-nileelol23:53
TauNeutrino;D23:53
z1hazebekks, its been fine23:53
wilee-nileechefs are all high strung not to hard eh23:53
z1hazewhat else can this be23:53
hitsujiTMOz1haze: why are you running minecraft on root? or even logged in as root?23:54
Arpad2Dr_Willis: it didn't work the cp, the resolution went down. the mouse work as guest login23:54
z1hazeroot23:54
z1hazeyes23:54
dannymichelI'm coming from OS X where I would use MPlayer X' next button to go to the next episode. This was completely dynamic. I didnt have to make playlists or anything. It knew what the next episode was.23:54
dannymichelAny apps like that? http://goo.gl/GCiiOw23:54
z1hazeif i start the server23:54
z1hazeit works23:54
z1hazebut if i access the control panel23:54
z1hazeit closes23:54
FloodBot1z1haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:54
z1hazeinstantly23:54
Dr_WillisArpad2:  try makign a new user 'sudo adduser billgates' if the new user works - that points to it being some problem setting in the problem users home directory. No idea where that would be at however. You could just reset everything back to defaults for the problem user.23:54
TauNeutrinobillgates xD23:55
Dr_Willisz1haze:  it closes..  whats 'it' ? the server crashes? the browser window crashes? the pc crashes?23:55
z1hazethe screen aborts23:55
hitsujiTMOz1haze: reinstall the control panel I would guess.. it's clearly sending the wrong command to screen23:55
Dr_Willis'the screen' - meaning what exactly?23:55
z1hazehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6338467/23:55
hitsujiTMOz1haze: it's not 'the screen' it's screen. screen is an application23:56
TauNeutrinobyebye and thx :)23:56
z1hazewell before it would just said [screen is terminating]23:56
z1hazeas soon as i access the url for the control panel23:56
Dr_Willis'screen' is a terminal multiplexer ;)23:56
Dr_Willistmux and byou are alternatives23:56
z1hazehow can i get this working because its reallying screwing me and my community of players23:57
Dr_Willisyou are accessing the control panel in the browser.. and its killing a shell?23:57
z1hazeyes23:57
Dr_Willisor its killing the  server thats running in the shell.23:57
hitsujiTMOz1haze: reinstall the control panel.23:57
z1hazehow? sorry i dont really know what im doing.23:57
z1hazedo i have to remove the old one first?23:58
hitsujiTMOz1haze: is this mineos?23:58
z1hazemcmyadmin23:58
adamdicarloi'm trying to compile PHP 5.4 for Saucy... using debuild... "can't find gmp.h" but i have libgmp-dev installed... any ideas anybody?23:58
hitsujiTMOadamdicarlo: did you check to make sure its the right version of libgmp-dev? and that it's looking in the right place for it?23:59

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