[00:00] <bekks> jc_: "burn image".
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> a 540line paste - that dosent really say a lot. ;)
[00:00] <umar343> am able to boot using a thumb drive.but cannot mount the hard disk even after booting using a thumb drive.
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: what exactly do you mean by "not able to boot"
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> i have a 'write to disk' on my nautilus right click menu..  not sure what added that.
[00:00] <jc_> k ty
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  i would boot the thumbdrive  then we can trouble shoot from there
[00:01] <umar343> the laptop switches on , instead of the ubuntu screeen displaying i get a error saying Atheros network is not connected.
[00:01] <umar343> mac id is displayed then.
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> so you see the grub/whatever boot menu? then the   Loading Ubuntu ......  screen?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: sounds like pxe boot. check the integrity of the .iso file ... how did you create the usb image?
[00:02] <umar343> i am supposed to see "Loading Ubuntu..." but i don't.also i remove the thumb drive once the laptop has booted.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> use the bios/whatever key the pc uses.. to select/be sure it is booting the USB
[00:03] <umar343> first used a live cd to boot the laptop then installed the live image to the thumb drive.
[00:03] <visceral> so this whole ubuntu spyware thing... to disable it, i just slide the slider in the privacy settings GUI, right?
[00:03] <visceral> i.e. is that the whole thing or is there more config?
[00:04] <umar343> whatever option i select , network boot is selected by default/
[00:04] <umar343> *default.
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have several articals on it.
[00:04] <visceral> Dr_Willis, but for 13.10?
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  it depends on your exact ubuntu release to disable  the ad lenss
[00:04] <visceral> 13.10 amd64
[00:04] <mrdeb> hi is uubntu 1404 the next lts
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> i dont memorize the steps.. and im on lubuntu ;)
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> the bot factoids are out of date i belive on the topic also
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok, unfortunately what your exactly saying isn't making much sense. so you can boot to the live cd ok right?
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> but those 2 blog sites had good articals on it.
[00:05] <umar343> i uninstalled a number of apps and even apt to prevent my laptop from attacking external network.
[00:05] <mrdeb> what
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> 0_O
[00:06] <visceral> i really wish all this stuff was off by default :(
[00:06] <umar343> how do i trouble shoot ?
[00:06] <umar343> once a sstem is compromised fully , no anti-virus can help.
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> umar343: its not clear what you mean by that last line. about uninstalling stuff
[00:06] <visceral> i have found the answer on the web but i have this uneasy feeling that i've missed something
[00:06] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  you seem to be sort of rambling.
[00:06] <visceral> or that it'll get turned back on with an update :(
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  its really not that big of an issue. its overhyped like crazy
[00:07] <visceral> Dr_Willis, it's the whole fact that i now have to be wary of things turning it back on on me
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  if you are that scared of it.. use a differnt non-unity desktiop
[00:08] <visceral> :-\
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> visceral: you can turn of all online dash activity in: system settings -> security & privacy -> search
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  cant say ive ever heard of a users setting in their HOME directory getting turned on or off by updates...
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> EVER..
[00:08] <umar343> i have uninstalled wireless drivers,games,libreoffice,remote desktop clients,desktop sharing and executed "sudo apt-get remove apt"
[00:08] <dimitrilc> Anybody know why Mark of the Ninja runs so sluggish on my Intel hd 4000?
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> the pacakge manager tools dont touch stuff in the users home.
[00:08] <umar343> to prevent ddos attacks.
[00:08] <visceral> Dr_Willis, the mechanism may change and thus ignore the local setting
[00:08] <visceral> theoretically speaking
[00:09] <umar343> refer onlne cves , i found a website about apt leading to ddos attacks.
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> visceral:  in theory they could replace busybox with some  folding@home app also.. but i doubt it..
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> in theory the only safe pc.. is one thats turned off...
[00:10] <tanuj> hello?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  perhaps you should step back and tell us why you think you need to do such weird things to 'prevent ddos' attacks
[00:10] <umar343> even a turned off pc is unsafe.i got the  info about ddos on packetstormsecurity
[00:10] <tanuj> hello?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> hello tanuj
[00:10] <tanuj> hi
[00:10] <tanuj> how aer things
[00:10] <tanuj> ae
[00:10] <tanuj> are
[00:10] <jmgk> great who are you again?
[00:10] <tanuj> me?
[00:11] <jmgk> yes
[00:11] <jmgk> I am Obama Barack Hussein
[00:11] <umar343> i once logged into the hacker's chat on gogloom.com
[00:11] <jmgk> :D
[00:11] <jmgk> heh umar343
[00:11] <tanuj> i am someone who just joined this channel
[00:11] <jmgk> awesome
[00:11] <umar343> it was in 2009
[00:11] <tanuj> cool
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  great - good for you.. now is there some actual ubuntu support question you had?
[00:11] <tanuj> what is gogloom
[00:11] <umar343> have been having different kinds of problems since then , involving social engineering as well.
[00:11] <tanuj> no, I'm just here to chat
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | tanuj jmgk this is a support channel not a chat channel
[00:12] <tanuj> welcome undert
[00:12] <jmgk> ok
[00:12] <tanuj> oh sorry
[00:12] <umar343> i need to access the hard disk and DVD writer to install another OS on another dvd.
[00:12] <umar343> how do i do it ?
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> boot a live-usb and you should have full access to the system umar343
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> you can install from a live-usb also
[00:13] <umar343> how do i create a live usb ?
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of tools and guides on making them.
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu  homepage also has a tool for it
[00:15] <umar343> i want to understand the hexadecimal output of the following command. sudo lspci -vvxxx  http://pastebin.com/cKsYpScq
[00:17] <lxle-fan> which white box in the alongside ubuntu represents the newer distro?
[00:18] <sisterFister> After installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default
[00:18] <sisterFister> anyone knwo what's going on ?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: considering you are running a ubuntu environment right now ... you can just install netbootin and use that to create a live usb
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> unetbootin*
[00:19] <Mentiroso> hola
[00:19] <umar343> why am i not able to access the content on the hard disk ? if i am allowed.
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: are you running the live cd now?
[00:20] <umar343> no on a usb
[00:20] <umar343> thumb drive.
[00:20] <umar343> i remove the thumb drive once the desktop appears.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  because you need to use sudo/root accessw as needed
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you need to keep the usb in.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> err.. You boot the thumbdrive... then remove it?
[00:21] <garcianc> I don't think you are supposed to remove the thumb drive without umount
[00:21] <umar343> i read online that sudo is not the ultimate command.
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> umar343:  i think you need to read more..
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | umar343
[00:23] <umar343> i want to know the specialities of nano editor.
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok. ok, so can you open the terminal run this and tell us the last line: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lsblk | pastebinit
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: it seems like you are just here to troll us
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> hitsujiTMO:  a grasshopper troll.
[00:26] <umar343> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333137/
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: can you also paste the output of: mount | pastebinit
[00:28] <umar343> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333143/
[00:28] <umar343> i  always set the swap to minimum.
[00:29] <sisterFister> anyone knwo what's going on ?
[00:29] <sisterFister> After installing xubuntu, when I boot only a black screen with a login prompt appears. Already tried to edit the grub file in /etc/default
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  sounds like its booting to the CONSOLE  if its  just saying 'login:'
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> and can you login?
[00:29] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: i can log in
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you have not booted from the usb, you have booted from the hard drive.
[00:30] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: and browse files normally, just no xfce environment
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  and this wasent a server install was it?  ;)
[00:30] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: no
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> had someond confused about that last week.. hehe
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  try 'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' and see if the gui starts up
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: can you please explain the exact problem again becaus ehtere doesn't seem to be one
[00:31] <umar343> the problem is not visible unfortunately,it is very complex.
[00:31] <umar343> i cannot boot using the hard disk or live cd.
[00:32] <umar343> there is a virus.i have files stored on the hard disk.
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: you have booted from the hard drive now
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> a virus on what os?
[00:32] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: 'startx' outputs Fatal server error: no screens found
[00:32] <umar343> ubuntu 13.04
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  sounds like you got some X configuration/Drivers issues going on
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if you have a 'virus' on ubuntu 13.04
[00:33] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: was hoping that wasn't it. Had no problem using normal ubuntu :\
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> umar343: ok, i'm definately calling troll now. i'm out.
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  what do you mean normal ubuntu?
[00:33] <umar343> the scroll key on touch pad does not work at times also.
[00:34] <umar343> inspite of removing apt,it is still present.
[00:34] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: i had ubuntu 12.04 installed before and never encountered this issue. Now i've just installed xubuntu
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  so this is a clean install that has never booted to the desktop?
[00:35] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: correct.
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  whats the video card/chipset?
[00:36]  * Dr_Willis gets ready to run away it its optimus based.. ;P
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: can you login and install pastebinit and run: cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit     and link us the result
[00:37] <Dr_Willis>  /var/log/   ;)
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sorry:  cat /vat/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> heh heh.., cat in the hat.. in a vat went splat
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sorry:  cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> ok, it's right that time
[00:38] <sisterFister> no...it's such a long output and on a laptop that has no gui lol
[00:38] <sisterFister> can't i grep the lines you need?
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> a real cli guru uses the tab key  so much..  they rarely need to spell everything
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit is a cli tool to post things to a pastebin site sisterFister  - no need for a gui
[00:39] <sisterFister> oh
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: that will produce a single url for us
[00:39] <sisterFister> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333197
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: seems it does not like you're graphics card.
[00:41] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: time to  install lubuntu?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> they really need to put pastebinit installed by default. ;)
[00:42] <sisterFister> pastebinit was installed by default
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> sisterFister:  if the gfx drives are the issue.. the desktop wont matter
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: you'll probably have the same problem ... what is the exact chipset you have?
[00:42] <sisterFister> never had this issue with Ubuntu 12.04
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit is not installed by defatult as far as ive seen.
[00:42] <sisterFister> Dr_Willis: I didn't have to install pastebinit to use it
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: maybe its installed on xubuntu
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> might be.   i got my 'install-my-stuff scripts' :0 that i always use to pull in things
[00:45] <gdos> *HELP* i find my self having to type 'sudo alsa force-reload' every time i login, either pulse audio and or alsa modules are not loading at boot up or when i log in or when they are supposed to be. how can i fix this?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: what's the output of: lspci | grep VGA
[00:46] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6333222/
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  try putting the command in /etc/rc.local      as a dirty quick fix perhaps.
[00:47] <gdos> Dr_Willis: 'sudo alsa force-reload' or 'alsa force-reload' ?
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  try one, or the other, or both..
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  rc.local runs as root. so no need for sudo in rc.local
[00:49] <gdos> ok. somehow my sound system crashed (using xubuntu 12.04.3) and having a heck of a time keeping it loaded. even tried 'sudo apt-get purge --reinstall pulseaudio' and now i lost my volume control in xubuntu.
[00:49] <gdos> let me try that first.
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: looks like the radeondriver or fglrx isn't recognising the card at all. you prob need newer drivers for that card
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: it's a 7000 series card right?
[00:51] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: don't know it's the one that came with the laptop.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: brand new laptop?
[00:51] <sisterFister> it's about 1-2 years old
[00:52] <YaMoonSun> Why is it that xfburn doesn't burn in a codec readable my most cd players?
[00:52] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Hey, can someone help me? I have a problem with a lost+found folder
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> lost+found how?
[00:52] <sisterFister> it's about 1-2 years old hitsujiTMO
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: what exact version of xubuntu are you trying to run?
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> problems with lost+found usually indicated a larger problem, such as a failing hard drive
[00:52] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Well, I am trying to build a cache.img using make_ext4fs
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> but whenever i do it an extra folder called lost+found is created
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> in the ache.img
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> so it messed up
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> *messes
[00:53] <bodhi_zazen> that is normal, to have an empty lost+found
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: thats part of the filesystem
[00:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yes, but how can i stop ths from hapening?
[00:53] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: 12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: you cant
[00:54] <Luigi2012SM64DS> dang it
[00:54] <bodhi_zazen> Luigi2012SM64DS: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2115/whats-lostfound-and-where-did-it-come-from
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Luigi2012SM64DS: it's not an actual folder ... is part of the filesystem
[00:54] <bodhi_zazen> http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Before I was able to make cache.img's using ubuntu with no problem
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> what is cache.img supposed to be for?
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> For Samsung Galaxy tab
[00:55] <Luigi2012SM64DS> im making a new root.
[00:55] <bodhi_zazen> it is an actual directory hitsujiTMO , used by fsck
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> lost+found is normally made when the filesystems get fscked.
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> you can delete the directory if you want
[00:55] <YaMoonSun> Is there a way to configure XFburn to burn media that can be played back on a regular cd player?
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: i'd say you'd have to go for 13.10 to get it running. ubuntu 13.04 didn't even have propper support for your gfx
[00:55] <bodhi_zazen> it is normal Luigi2012SM64DS , "ignore" it
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yes, but this directory is created whenever i make the cache.img.
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> YaMoonSun:   the buttons i see here in xfvurn says its playable in a normal cd player.. its always worked in my cd players
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> YaMoonSun: yea, you convert the say mp3 to a .wav
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> i delete it from the folder
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> i build cache
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> and poof
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> iut appears in
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> it*
[00:56] <FloodBot1> Luigi2012SM64DS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <bodhi_zazen> Luigi2012SM64DS: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> the tools making the cache are createing it i imagine Luigi2012SM64DS
[00:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> How is that possible if I have done this before with no problems?
[00:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont see why an empty directory would hurt anything
[00:57] <YaMoonSun> Well, it's a .wav after it's been converted, but it's taking Audacious ages to detect all the newly burned song and my CD players refuses to detect them at all.
[00:57] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Eh, maybe i'm just crazy, ill try it out and see if it works. I just had problems before.l
[00:58] <chsados> hey guys, how can I encrypt my home folder after the fact (ie during install i opted out to do so) and also is LUKS apart of ubuntu natively?  Does it allow for full disk encryption like truecrypt?
[00:59] <YaMoonSun> CD took 2 minutes to burn, and it's been nearly 10 minutes and the same computer that burned it has yet to detect the files on disc.
[00:59] <YaMoonSun> What do?
[00:59] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: xubuntu has 13.10?
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: http://xubuntu.org/news/saucy-salamander-final/
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> chsados: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostInstallationEncryption
[00:59] <chsados> ty bodhi_zazen
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> basically, recovery mode then "ecryptfs-migrate-home --user you"
[01:00] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: was that the correct link?
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> back up any data first "just in case"
[01:00] <Squarism> Hey.. when using CCSM.. as configuration is tedious i thought it would be a sane idea to export the configuration. Theres this choice to "include/exclude" defaults when doing that. But loading a configuarton wo defaults seems totally dangerous
[01:00] <bodhi_zazen> encryuption makes data recovery difficult to impossible
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> hitsujiTMO: the actual downlaod page: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/
[01:00] <Squarism> is there some good scheme for this
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:01] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: ty
[01:03] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, 12.04 i think
[01:04] <Squarism> good ubuntu behaving like a crack addict now
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: i presume when it says "export" without defaults ... the import will merge it with your current config
[01:05] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, yeah.. that was my idea too
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: just be careful what you do play with, as it can easily upset unity
[01:06] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: no way, tweak away, but use a test account =)
[01:06] <stianhj> anyone try out btsync? two pretty much identical machines, web gui won't show on one of them (i enter username and password and it's just blank)
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: please refrain from advertising and spamming users of this channel
[01:07] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, I just feel its VERY frustrating that most keybindings in ubuntu are not configurable wo ccsm. Further more.. the designers of unity/ubuntu seem to think people are using their computers to run an OS on vs and OS to run programs with.. ie ALL damn keykombinations are occupied by the OS making software that relies on hotkeys near unusable
[01:08] <Squarism> PLUS.. ubuntu/unity devs say CCSM "not supported"
[01:08] <bodhi_zazen> lol Squarism - use k/x/lubuntu or gnome =)
[01:08] <phyphor> Sorry to jump straight in and ask an annoying question - but has anyone got the time to help me with installing Ubuntu as a 2nd (dual boot) os on a desktop with pre-installed Win 8 (asus mobo if it matters)
[01:08] <Dr_Willis> CCSM will be getting phased out in the next few reeases as will compiz
[01:08] <phyphor> (I've read most of the pages I've found, but they seem to not be workign for me)
[01:09] <stianhj> phyphor: just ask your question and maybe someone can help you
[01:09] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: state what you tried and what problem you had
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> Squarism: yes ... its a pita. once mir is up and running they will be looking to do away with compiz and all those effects will be handled differently.
[01:09] <phyphor> Trying to install Ubuntu in UEFI mode, whichi I think I need to for Win 8 compatibility, I boot the dvd in UEFI mode
[01:09] <Squarism> mir?
[01:09] <phyphor> get teh text menu, but no options work
[01:10] <phyphor> If I boot the DVD as non-uefi then I don't htink it installs in UEFI mode
[01:10] <Squarism> hitsujiTMO, what is mir?
[01:10] <thiebaude> !mir
[01:10] <bodhi_zazen> did it boot to a black screen phyphor ?
[01:10] <phyphor> which time?
[01:11] <Squarism> oh, i thought "X window server" was removed by the switch to Unity
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: you must boot in uefi mode in order to install the boot loader. can you try adding the nomodeset kernel parameter
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: for better or worse, gnome2 and compiz are depreciated. While some tools such as ccsm may still work , anticipate more problems over time. Many users have had similar observations with Unity / Gnome 3, some use various other DE
[01:12] <phyphor> If I boot off the DVD in UEFI mode it gives me the plain text menu, but none of the options work.
[01:12] <phyphor> ok
[01:12] <phyphor> trying again - boting off DVD in UEFI mode. I get the GNU GRUB text menu
[01:13] <luckybunny> I'm having trouble getting an update through update-manager. I'm wondering if anyone can help
[01:13] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, my plan would be to only use it for keybindings
[01:13] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: so drop to the install option, press e to edit, right?
[01:13] <yeyeman> wow I'm elidgeble for a custom google url what a privilige
[01:13] <luckybunny> I've used Synaptic to look into it. Apparently the package conflicts with itself
[01:13] <gdos> Dr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[01:13] <luckybunny> or rather the earlier version
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes ... e to edit and after "quiet splash" add nomodeset
[01:13] <esde> Ok, I've been working at this for a bit now trying not to bug and ask questions.. but I cannot seem to get a persistent usb stick to boot in the machine im working with
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> gdos:  i know very little about sound trouble shooting
[01:13] <esde> I keep getting missing operating system
[01:14] <luckybunny> esde: have you tried configuring the BIOS to look for a USB device insteda of the hard drive?
[01:14] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: then F10 to boot
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes
[01:14] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: you might like http://askubuntu.com/questions/247331/how-do-i-remove-customize-unity-keyboard-shortcuts
[01:14] <esde> There is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB
[01:14] <phyphor> Booting a command list.
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> I have not looked, but you can remove key bindings and re-define them
[01:15] <phyphor> error: failure readinfg sector 0x6c00 from 'fd0'
[01:15] <phyphor> error: you need to load the kernel first
[01:15] <phyphor> I can't get past that in UEFI mode
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: what version of Ubuntu ?
[01:16] <phyphor> I'm not sure if it's a UEFI (bios) setting I need to change
[01:16] <phyphor> bodhi_zazen: 13.10
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you do a checksum on the iso.
[01:16] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, it relies on ccsm too?
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> ouch, you might have to fall back to 12.04, uefi can be a problem on some laptops
[01:16] <esde> luckybunny,  There is no hdd installed, and im F12 booting to USB
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: not to remove key bindings, and I bet you can write your own (not sure) without ccsm
[01:17] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: not from that screen - check disk for defects gives the same error
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> esde: looks like its not seeing the usb as a bootable device... how did you make it?
[01:17] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you do it in windows
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> I switched to an alternate DE ;)
[01:17] <phyphor> I had the same problem with 2 differetnt download and burns
[01:17] <phyphor> hrm
[01:17] <esde> gparted shows it with boot flag enable hitsujiTMO
[01:17] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: if you tell me how when I get back in abotu 15 minutes - sorry, got to go deal with a pressing matter
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: I have seen 2 laptops like that, uefi sometimes has bugs
[01:18] <shasf> how do i find the apt-get (name) of an app
[01:18] <Squarism> bodhi_zazen, thanx for the info!
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> esde: yes but it might not have an mbr installed
[01:18] <esde> shasf, apt-cache search
[01:18] <esde> ahh
[01:18] <esde> ty hitsujiTMO
[01:18] <shasf> apt-cache search
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> Squarism: I hope it at least gives you some more options is all, hope you can find something you like
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: np
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> esde: what tool did you use to create it
[01:20] <craigbass1976> anyone been able to place acestreams online?  I'm trying to watch the world series, and the acestream I found looks to be faster than the flash one I'm currently watching.  No love with these directions (adding a repo and apt-get install the -all option)
[01:24] <profligacy> craigbass1976: Red Sox just scored again.
[01:24] <profligacy> craigbass1976: 4-0
[01:24] <esde> I tried the usb startup disk tool first, then i tried unetbootin. I just opened gparted and tried setting the boot type to linux and got this error http://pastebin.com/8KBXs4r5 hitsujiTMO
[01:25] <phyphor> someone was messing with my motorcycle- sorry
[01:25] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: so, boot into windows and ... ??
[01:25] <craigbass1976> profligacy, I know.  Like I said, we're watching the flash version (@200kbps) but I'm hoping the acestream is better quality.  Watching the Bruins online is difficult -- can't see the puck on crappy streams.
[01:26] <profligacy> craigbass1976: Maybe it's a sign from God. He may want you to stop watching hockey altogether.
[01:26] <profligacy> Wow, the Cardinals really such.
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you open command line and type: FCIV        not sure if the tool is installed by default
[01:27] <bodhi_zazen> phyphor: just a cautionary note ... I installed Ubuntu on a uefi system with uefi disabled, and after windows would not boot, had to re-install . If the defaults are not working there is a problem that may not have a simple answer and you might break windows ;)
[01:27] <craigbass1976> profligacy, don't you blaspheme.  Don't you BLASPHEME in HE-AH!
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> esde: can you open gparted. delete the partition and create a new fat32 partition. don't mark it bootable or anything. then use netbootin
[01:28] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: no fciv on this version of windows
[01:28] <phyphor> bodhi_zazen: So far Windows is able to boot
[01:28] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, can ubuntu only be installed on it?
[01:28] <thiebaude> i might be getting a new laptop soon
[01:28] <phyphor> I have specifically not been ,essing with the efi partitiomn
[01:29] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: One laptop I coul ddual boot, windows with uefi enabled, ubuntu (or fedora) with uefi disabled
[01:29] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, but what if i wanted to just install ubuntu?
[01:30] <yiuss> how do i find my vnc host display name
[01:30] <bodhi_zazen> One laptop I broke bad, could boot linux without uefi, but was never able to recover windows, uefi broke and I did not have the windows recovery disk
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: try this tool then http://www.nullriver.com/downloads/Install-winMd5Sum.exe and install, then right click the iso and check the md5 ... compare it with the hash on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[01:30] <thiebaude> ok thanks bodhi_zazen
[01:30] <xdc> I dont know
[01:30] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: boot ubuntu (or other) with uefi enabled, if it boots you shoulb be good to go
[01:30] <xdc> I think Linux Mint is the right choise!
[01:30] <thiebaude> ok cool, just wated to know
[01:30] <thiebaude> wanted
[01:31] <bodhi_zazen> One laptop windows would boot with uefi disabled ("legacy" boot I think the bios called it) so I just left it disabled
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> bodhi_zazen: was it a non uefi windows install?
[01:31] <bodhi_zazen> and that sums up my experience with uefi
[01:32] <bodhi_zazen> hitsujiTMO: it booted both uefi and legacy, it was an early windows 7 release
[01:32] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I've just grabbed fciv anyway
[01:33] <bodhi_zazen> all I am really saying, ubuntu *should* boot and install with uefi enabled, if it does not, take care as you (or I) have broken windows by disabling uefi
[01:34] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, would be np for me since no other os besides ubuntu would be installed on it
[01:34] <thiebaude> wiped clean
[01:35] <bodhi_zazen> thiebaude: well, either buy with no os, or linux pre-installed then ;)
[01:35] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I don't have the ISO any more, just the burnt disc
[01:35] <bodhi_zazen> http://laclinux.com/en/Start
[01:35] <phyphor> Oh, wait, I have it on the other computer I burnt it on!
[01:35] <thiebaude> bodhi_zazen, i could just tell the store i dont agree with the ms terms of service,lol
[01:35] <thiebaude> :)
[01:36] <bodhi_zazen> yep, but you still pay for windows that way
[01:36] <profligacy> craigbass1976: There's another one.
[01:36] <profligacy> What a horrible series...
[01:36] <thiebaude> ^^
[01:36] <thiebaude> profligacy, i turned it off
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: just run fciv -md5 on the iso file. and match it correct entry in the hash list i gave you earlier
[01:38] <churly> Anyone know how to get the previously focused x window?  Ive used wmctrl and xdotool but am unsure if they can do this.
[01:39] <DrGrov> Hello. Just installed Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit on a new Acer TC-105. Did the partioning as intended. Not though I am not able to boot up the computer, can not get into BIOS either. Any thoughts what might have gone wrong?
[01:39] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: the iso file I downloaded matches the hash
[01:39] <phyphor> Downloads/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso) = 21ec41563ff34da27d4a0b56f2680c4f
[01:40] <phyphor> it was verified as burning correctlty
[01:40] <profligacy> thiebaude: Do you follow basketball?
[01:40] <KillSnooki> DrGrove, check your BIOS - do you have it in uefi and secureboot on or off?
[01:40] <thiebaude> not that much anymore
[01:40] <thiebaude> profligacy,
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you try to burn it again at a slower speed
[01:41] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: The problem is that I can not get into BIOS even :/ I can hopefully recover my Windows that I did a recovery on and try to install again.
[01:41] <phyphor> I burnt it at the slowest speed and verified after burning
[01:41] <grkblood> why when I add 0.0.0.0 www.google.com into /etc/hosts and then browse to google.com it loads fine? This should not be loading.
[01:41] <KillSnooki> DrGrov, did the laptop come with windows 8 installed on it?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: ok. in you're bios. enable legacy usb support (or disable it if it's already enbabled)
[01:41] <TalkingMuffin> grkblood: www.google.com is not the same as google.com for /etc/hosts
[01:42] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: It did come with Windows 8 installed on it. But definitely not my cup of tea.
[01:42] <grkblood> TalkingMuffin, I tried both
[01:42] <KillSnooki> Boot it up and try the F2 button instead of del to get into the uefi bios
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: then try boot the cd again
[01:42] <Rajat> hello if I make a wifi on ubuntu, I cannot see it on my android. Whats the solution?
[01:42] <dv9700> is there anyway to disable search suggestions for the newest version of chrome? I've googled it extensively and everything I find it for old versions, or the buttons they reference just aren't there
[01:42] <grkblood> TalkingMuffin, I also tried 0.0.0.0	*.google.com
[01:42] <esde> hitsujiTMO, unetbootin has since completed and is closed. im trying to safely remove the drive but i keep getting an error that one or more partitions on the drive are busy
[01:43] <esde> got it
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> esde: unmount if from command line
[01:43] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: usb support?
[01:43] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: Okay, I will try F2 then instead. Did nothing.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yes ... changes how your keyboard and touchpad are detected. and a fe other things depending on manufacturer
[01:44] <esde> Missing Operating System :(
[01:44] <rovian> good night
[01:45] <rovian> can someone help me
[01:45] <KillSnooki> DrGrov, when you shut down your windows 8 for the last time did you just turn the computer off or did you do a full shutdown?
[01:45] <rovian> I'm having trouble with virtual host ubuntu 13 someone had a problem like this
[01:45] <esde> I formatted to fat32 in gparted, opened unetnootin, chose ubuntu 12.04 desktop iso, selected usb device, set persistent storage to 512MB, let unetbootin do it's thing, unmounted the drive, detached the drive, tried booting to the drive, and got the same error hitsujiTMO
[01:45] <phyphor> done, and now trying to boot off dvd again
[01:46] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: Could I still reinstall Ubuntu 13.10 and get it right the partioning? I did a full shutdown. It installed updates for me and then it restarted and then I did a shutdown.
[01:46] <phyphor> same error
[01:46] <DrGrov> Full shutdown that is, did not know of any other way than the shutdown from the menu.
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> esde: and you've verified the iso hash?
[01:46] <esde> I will now
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: can you remind me what the error is again. just hanging at the grub screen?
[01:48] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: using 13.10 xubuntu works :D
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: sweet!
[01:49] <gdos> when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[01:49] <sisterFister> hitsujiTMO: yes! Ty for your help
[01:49] <esde> hitsujiTMO, yes md5sums match
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> sisterFister: np.
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> esde: is the usb devise showing up in the quick boot menu?
[01:50] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: If I boot off DVD with the DVD drive in UEFI mode I get the UEFI (plain text) boot menu, but no options work. If I try to instal I get a failure reading a sector and am told to install the kernel first
[01:50] <esde> Yes, and I can see it in the bios
[01:51] <phyphor> If I boot off DVD in plain SATA (no UEFI) mode then I don't know how to make Ubuntu bootable
[01:51] <DrGrov> KillSnooki: I am apparently stuck with this problem until I figure out how to get Windows back and redo the install of Ubuntu?
[01:51] <Rajat> hello my android device cannot detect wifi when i make it through ubuntu.plz help/
[01:52] <phyphor> huh, so now I'm in this channel I'm getting random spam - wewt
[01:52] <Rajat> though making ad-hoc on windows does detect, how?
[01:52] <phyphor> Welles_Lemuelson: quit the spam, ok?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> phyphor:  more pokemon spam?
[01:54] <phyphor> Rajat: why are you telling me to shut up. now?
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: looks like there's a compatibility issue with your uefi boot and either grub or the kernel them. if you boot in non uefi mode it it will not allow you to install a uefi setup and a non uefi setup most likely will break you're windows. if you wanted to try (and are able): you could try installing windows again as a non uefi install and then you should safely be able to install ubuntu
[01:54] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I don't have the installation media, alas
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: the other option would be to try ubuntu in a virtual machine
[01:55] <phyphor> I am wondering if it's one of the other boot options, but there are oh so many
[01:55] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I might have to, yes
[01:55] <phyphor> I was hoping to avoid another abstraction layer, but needs must I suppose
[01:55] <phyphor> thanks for your time and attention :)
[01:56] <esde> hitsujiTMO, im trying a different usb now
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: np at all
[01:57] <Romance> dont you guys ubuntu dev need to take a look at the tool apt-proz , i use it, it speeds up my update/upgrade process
[01:57] <jonLarley> would replacing windows with ubuntu, i.e. wiping my entire drive and installing ubuntu, make it run considerably faster?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> apt-fast here
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: no
[01:58] <jonLarley> hitsujiTMO: dual booting or not it has no affect on how fast ubuntu works?
[01:59] <Romance> wilee-nilee: its using aria2 right, the aria2 resume is so bad, i tried it with uget, many of the files were completed before they were really done
[01:59] <msdw> any one knows where can i get ubuntu mobile
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Romance, I'm not seeing a ppa with it above oneric
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: there's minimal effect. there can me a few small boosts from things like locating ubuntu on a part of the hdd thats fastest, but there would be no real noticable difference
[02:01] <jonLarley> hitsujiTMO:  and there are no significant advantages outside of speed to replace your windows7 with ubuntu?
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: there is not ubuntu mobile. unbuntu touch is probably what you're reffering to: #ubuntu-touch
[02:01] <msdw> the phone version
[02:01] <Romance> wilee-nilee: need to add its ppa ppa:tahutek-team/prozilla
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> yeah found it thanks
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> jonLarley: no, there's no advantage, except maybe not seeing the grub boot option on the screen on inital boot. saves you like .... 3 seconds
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> msdw: #ubuntu-touch as i said. go there
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> and try to not be dissapointed with ubuntu touch at this time. :)
[02:03] <msdw> ok thanks
[02:04] <esde> i wish i wouldve tested the usb in another machine sooner...... it boots on another machine, looks like im troubleshooting a hardware issue :/
[02:04] <msdw> why disapointed
[02:04] <pero> how can i remove one specific unity web app? (reddit) apt-get remove unity-webapps-reddit says that i don't have it, but i still see it in dash as well the mail-sys-tray-thing
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> esde:  i have a problem desktop box. it refused to boot any usb;s  i made.. even tho they all booted find in 4+ other machines i have.. i had to use dvd to install on that box.
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[02:05] <Dr_Willis> pero:  theres a webapps directory in the users home   .config/*  somewhere i recall seeing the oher day. it maybe cached in there
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> esde: go through every bios option. sometimes its an obscure one that causes the problem
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> budget casket hehe
[02:07] <pero> if only nautilus didn't suck so much it'd be a lot easier to find it
[02:09] <mheinke> hows it goin?!
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> pero: web apps aren't a installed package... they're the offline cache of a page. if you can't find it in that folder check firefox settings
[02:09] <gdos> Dr_Willis, it worked. but however when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error
[02:09] <gdos> oops.
[02:11] <Supermetalfreak> wowoo
[02:11] <pero> hitsujiTMO: i'm leveraging chromium for the webapps, and where? all i can find is the overarching unity web apps extensions, but i don't want to kill all of them - just one
[02:13] <fmedina> hello
[02:13] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I'm going to try one more thing, but I'd like to verify my understanding, or, more accurately, learn nw
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> pero: afaik any webapp on unity must run thru firefox (hence the dependancies on firefox)
[02:14] <phyphor> I am thiknign of instlaling Ubuntu in non legacy (non UEFI) mode then converting it
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> pero: wait no i'm wrong on that
[02:14] <greenhornlinux> I had a quick question about ppas (still trying to wrap my head around them). I know how to easily install them but I wanted to learn more on how to manage them. For example, if things went poorly and I wanted the older software what is the best way to handle this? Uninstall the new version of software, remove the ppa, then install the software from the unbuntu repositories? Is this the best approach to "roll" back to older
[02:14] <greenhornlinux>  software?
[02:14] <pero> hitsujiTMO: that's incorrect, it's either firefox or chromium - that's actually why chromium is still held back on 29 on the repo's (because of the downstream integration with the webapps)
[02:15] <bazhang> greenhornlinux, ppa-purge
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | greenhornlinux at your own risk
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: there's a good chance trying that will damage you're windows install.
[02:15] <phyphor> I wondered tha,t but if I don't tell it to touch the EFI partition it should be ok, right?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, most any install in the cli will give you a list of what is installed.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> being installed that is
[02:16] <greenhornlinux> okay thanks, if I didn't use ppa-purge would the above method I outlined do the same thing?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, if you can perfectly uninstall the new hardware and make sure the replaced was back sure.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> greenhornlinux, ppa-purge would be easier most likely, messing with ppa's has it's liabilities.
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, You have the windows backed up yet?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> or some plan incase bricked
[02:20] <greenhornlinux> wilee-nilee: hm... yeah, that is why I was trying to figure out the best way to manage them. I haven't had issues as of yet, just wanted to understand it a bit better. I suppose if I attempted manually I would have to make sure any of the newer libraries and such were purged too as to not cause conflict with the older software. I will have to read up more on ppa-purge but I am assuming all of that is taken care of for you.
[02:20] <mheinke> wilee-nilee, are you in here every night?
[02:20] <mheinke> :)
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> pretty much
[02:21] <phyphor> wilee-nilee: I have my documents, etc on a separate partition
[02:21] <phyphor> I guess I could dd the whole drive to a spare drive
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> and day, I have little other responsibilities and very little here. ;)
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: well, the problem is is that it needs to create a bios boot partition, and will not be efi aware at that time so may mess up.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, I would not dd it it has an imager built in for at least one backup up to the pro version, clonezilla will do it repeatedly.
[02:22] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I have the space to set up a bios boot partition
[02:22] <phyphor> if that's sensible
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> dd can destroy the original at times depending on how you use it
[02:22] <mheinke> wilee-nilee, awesome! im trying to insert myself into the ubuntu community, im a php (L.A.M.P) developer
[02:22] <phyphor> wilee-nilee: you need to get in and out the right way round :)
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> mheinke, I'm on the cursory, not a developr or IT person.
[02:23] <PCLinux> Can someone here refer me to a book and support for the Linux (Ubuntu) library? I have learned a lot on here, but I also want to learn "Hands-on" as I would like to use this OS and leave Windows in the closet.
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: i'm unsure what the restrictions are on it. have a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS_Boot_partition
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> !manual | PCLinux
[02:24] <mheinke> PCLinux, linux bible
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: seems the best to do is to create the bios boot partition manually before running the install.
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> PCLinux:  any printed book on 'ubuntu' might be a bit out of date. pay attention to the release. and dont expect a 'general' book to cover everything. ;)
[02:25] <mheinke> PCLinux, also..the Linux from scratch manual
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: but do try to dd the drive first
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> If I really wanted its skills I would grey hat and make some money from business or government by employment
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> PCLinux:  for real physical books. watch the bargin bins at the bookstores. :) anything by the Oreaily guys is worth checking out
[02:26] <mheinke> PCLinux, the two things i shared will: 1) give you tons of knowledge into linux, 2) give you the nessessary skills to run ANY linux system (and even roll your own)
[02:26] <PCLinux> I appreciate that, Dr._Willis and also do these books cover things like, Troubleshooting and Diagnostics?
[02:27] <mheinke> but you have to be a student..and really take some time. linux isnt learned in a day :P
[02:27] <Romance> how do i install gnome shell extension? ubuntu 12.04 here, gnome-shell-extensions : Depends: gnome-shell (>= 3.5) but 3.4.1-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Romance, go to their website is easiest
[02:28] <pero> i had to remove the associated .desktop file from ~/.local/applications
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> Romance, https://extensions.gnome.org/
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  if you want the most up to date gnome-shell experience - you may want to use ubuntu 13.10
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> some are up to some are not in all gnome 3 versions
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> some work higher not lower and the oppisiste
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> opposite*
[02:31] <donta12344> evening folks, anyone around?
[02:31] <Gerowen> There's been a few people in here over the past few minutes.
[02:32] <donta12344> its good to see people still using good old irc these days
[02:33] <Gerowen> I like it.  It's a quick and easy way to actually participate in the communities you're interested in.
[02:33] <KillSnooki> I haven't used IRC in about 10 years donta :) It's what desperation has made me resort too. Last time I was on IRC was when I was an IRCop on DALnet. Long long long time ago
[02:34] <donta12344> hmm, kind of ironic, thats pretty much when i am on it, ussualy get your conunndrum answered sooner or later
[02:34] <mheinke> donta12344, i love IRC! im in the drupal channels all day every day, and lately..im here as well most nights (PDT)
[02:34] <esde> hitsujiTMO, it's been a VERY long day. I just _assumed_ there werent any usb devices attached. I was wrong.
[02:35] <hitsujiTMO> o.O esde ? booting the wrong device?
[02:35] <Gerowen> KillSnooki: Your name reminds me of a video I saw shared on Facebook where Snooki said lobsters were the only animals that are alive when you kill them.
[02:36] <KillSnooki> Sound's about right for her :) Still not as bad as Jessica Simpson though
[02:36] <mheinke> Gerowen, hmmm lobster..sounds yummy
[02:37] <esde> Yep hitsujiTMO. rookie mistake, i was booting to a usb device i didn't know was connected.
[02:37] <esde>  :|
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> guess they never ate oysters
[02:37] <donta12344> my wonder is this, i have an old dell laptop that despite being an old dell and having been through its share of beatings, still seems to run like a clock. i want to convert it into a server for minecraft and some other games. now, i currently have xubuntu 13.4 installed and running, but i have messed around with the laptop quite a bit and the poor os is running like sh**. can i restore it to
[02:37] <donta12344> fresh install goodness without reinstalling? its all updated and my disk is shot, i am just wondering if i can get a fresh os feel without actually formatting it again.
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> esde: well, at least you should be able to fly from here
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  totally depends on what you messed around with. ;)
[02:38] <CrazyZurfer> hi, I've installed equalizer for  pulseaudio, I used a preset that I had on windows and it sounds much better, the problem is that I hear much noise with the music, noise like clicks and ticks, pretty weird :S
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  haveing /home/ on its own partion makes clean reinstalls much easier
[02:40] <donta12344> that is true, im half ways convinced to just do a full format and rework my partitions.... would it be a good idea to run the os off of a flashdrive to allow for greater speeds?
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> arg! why does thou hate me so much! ... turned on subpixel rendering to find one monitor is rgb and the other bgr ... grr
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> flash drive faster then an internal hd?  id test that theory first. ;)
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> on a usb 1 no less I would bet
[02:41] <donta12344> mm right i havent got the usb capacity to be faster, my bad :P
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> dont put swap in a ramdisk either? ;)
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: again i ask, please refrain from spamming people in this channel
[02:41] <donta12344> ill just bite it and clean setup for its final stage of life
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> Welles_Lemuelson: also, please refrain from PMing abuse
[02:42] <CrazyZurfer> donta12344, you mean installing ubuntu in a pendrive?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, report them to freenode or ubuntu-ops
[02:43] <donta12344> i just want to use the laptop for a server i can run games off my lan, and yeah, i thought if the server files are stored and running from the hdd and the os off of a flash drive i might be able to gain some system speed?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> donta12344:  ar you that limited in hd space?
[02:44] <donta12344> i have used linux for a wile, but my understanding is still so-so, and i have never seemed to have luck working with servers and networking >..<
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> plug the network cable in... start networking. ;)
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> a desktop install can work as a server also
[02:45] <donta12344> enough space, was just wondering if i could gain anything by it
[02:46] <CrazyZurfer> donta12344, as I know, USB drives are WAY slower
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> save the usb for imporntant things.. ;)
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> like err.. chargeing your phone
[02:46] <jmgk> hi
[02:47] <donta12344> kk, then i shall just reinstall and start fresh with my tinkering
[02:47] <Kromaz> I just read online that Thunderbird 24.1.0 was released for all platforms. When will we see it in the update manager??
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !latest | Kromaz
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> look for a ppa perhaps Kromaz
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> Kromaz, I got FF a day early yesterday, I suspect tbird will be fast.
[02:49] <Kromaz> okay will do thanks thats Dr_Willis
[02:49] <garcianc> Kromaz, I am waiting too. 13.10 broke the lightning calendar in tbird, 24.1 is supposed to fix that
[02:50] <Kromaz> wilee-nilee I also received firefox 25 yesterday
[02:51] <Br|aN> its 100% legal its written on legal paper which makes it legal
[02:51] <CrazyZurfer> is there a way to add an "execute as administrator" option in the context menu?
[02:51] <Br|aN> woops wrong window
[02:51] <Kromaz> garcianc , you can get the older plugin to get lighting to work again
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> garcianc, Kromaz if you can't wait. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa
[02:52] <garcianc> Kromaz, Thanks! If the waiting takes too long, I might try that.  Thanks wilee-nilee
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> no porob
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> prob*
[02:54] <Kromaz> Have anyone else noticed that with Thunderbird no notification for imap on gmail?
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> does ubuntu one have a cli?
[02:56] <CrazyZurfer> solved my issues :P
[02:56] <CrazyZurfer> !yay
[02:57] <KillSnooki> Hey just for clarification. Ubuntu uses partitions in what's called a gpt right? If I cannot see my windows partition for the life of me on the install would it be safe to say it's something with the gpt messing up?
[02:58] <Kromaz> whats the best file format for multi platforms?
[02:58] <xmetal> uh
[02:59] <Guest60707> hey guys can u help me installing vbadditions on ubuntu?
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> KillSnooki: ubuntu can use gpt or mbr ... if you can't see the windows partition, then yeah something is really messed up... best to cancel and have a look at it with gparted
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> !vbox | Guest60707
[03:00]  * xmetal agrees with hitsujiTMO , on that
[03:00] <KillSnooki> Okay, so I am getting somewhere with this troubleshoot philosphy :) I ran gparted and it tells me that /dev/sda contains GPT signatures but does not have valid fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupt, etc
[03:00] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: Bah, it won't install the bootloader/grub in legacy mode at all. Complete fialure. I think I'm going to,a s you sggested, resprt to a VM
[03:01] <KillSnooki> Now at this point I have no idea where to go
[03:01] <KillSnooki> Can someone kick Welles_Lemuelson please? That's the second spam
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: hopefully the vm will be less of a pain for you
[03:01] <sparks56> hello all => just entered     what is topic
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> KillSnooki: report him on #ubuntu-op and #freenode
[03:02] <Guest60707> hitsujiTMO: where can i get Vboxadditions?
[03:02] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: can't be much worse :)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> !vbox | Guest60707 did you read the vbox guides yet?
[03:02] <phyphor> just need to pick an appropraite vm management tool of choice
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> Guest60707: no idea, don't use vbox
[03:02] <Guest60707> ah okok ty
[03:02] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... at the Vbox website
[03:03] <phyphor> talking of, reminds me, Virtual box is better than VMware last time I tried
[03:03] <sparks56> what are you trying to accomplish with  Virtual Box   never used it myself
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> sparks56: /say /topic for the topic. this is a support channel not a talk channel.
[03:04] <ObrienDave> oh boy
[03:04] <phyphor> me? I can't install Ubuntu on this desktop because UEFI is being annoying. I like IDJC for internet DJ broacasting and I can't get rid of Windows because Steam
[03:05] <Romance> lol i messed with the gnome, i uninstalled the gnome shell (removed the noobslab ppa as well) and try to install it again but i got "gnome-shell : Depends: gnome-shell-common (= 3.4.1-0ubuntu2) but 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 is to be installed
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> been using he linux native steam client here ;)
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: sounds like you've been messing with some nasty ppa
[03:06] <willie_> hello.
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> Romance, 12.04 is funky with the shell, 3.4.1 in the repos is the best idea.
[03:06] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: the noobslab ppa, i followed exactly that website guide to install gnome extension shell under 12.04, no single step missed
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: did you install a ppa for 11.10?
[03:06] <some1033> hi
[03:07] <Romance> wilee-nilee: yes i removed the noobslab ppa and do update, but when i install gnome-shell, it gave me that error
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> gnome shell on 12.04 can be flakey i recall
[03:07] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: i dont know i followed exactly the guide from that website
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: put the ppa back in and use ppa purge
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> Romance, YOu did not run the purge?
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !ppa-purge
[03:07] <Romance> i did purge with autoremove as well
[03:07] <Romance> that --purge
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: looks like it was targeted for 11.10 -> 0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0
[03:08] <Romance> ye how do i fix this, im on recovery mode
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> Romance, ppa-purge not just purge
[03:08] <willie_> got a question concerning Ubuntu Studio, 13.10. It's  simple noob question
[03:09] <Romance> willie_: surpisingly ppa-purge is not come by default so i need to install ppa-purge
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Not the same, ppa-purge use sptitude and another to remove the installs and restore stock, generally.
[03:09] <some1033> hello,kelly,
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> aptitude*
[03:10] <marlon> hi
[03:10] <marlon> im new to this softwear
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> willie_, You aware of #ubuntustudio just in case?
[03:10] <some1033> hi,marmon
[03:11] <marlon> hi some1033
[03:11] <Guest60707> guys shouldn't Vboxadditions be in aplications/system/terminal???
[03:11] <willie_> No. I just hopped on Xchat and it shot me overhere.
[03:11] <willie_> but I will go over there.
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, Installed from the vbox gui I believe
[03:11] <Guest60707> yea
[03:11] <some1033> i am too.marmon
[03:11] <willie_> Thanks for the directions. Enjoy the evening!
[03:12] <Guest60707> only thing i couldn't install yet was vboxadditions,can't  find it anywhere
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, file-preferences-extensions
[03:12] <marlon> i dont know how to use this software
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> Guest60707, YOU add yourself to the vbox config?
[03:13] <Guest60707> think so
[03:13] <some1033> where are you from,marmon
[03:13] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... run Vbox, then add the additions ISO as a drive to the IDE controller
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> vbox homepage - has a very noice manual on using vbox
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest60707:  vbox addations - does not have a system/menu icon - since its  used by vbox. its not a stand alone app.
[03:14] <ObrienDave> Guest60707... after creating the VM
[03:14] <marlon> Australia
[03:14] <Guest60707> ahh...okok
[03:15] <marlon> i wish you could play minecraft on here
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> irc minecraft? ;)
[03:16]  * Dr_Willis runs from the creepers
[03:16] <some1033> can you speak chinese ,marmon
[03:16] <marlon> they have it on windows
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> marlon:  have what on windows exactly?
[03:16] <Romance> wilee-nilee: ok i ppa-purge and its updated the list but looks like i already removed the ppa (with that --purge) , so try with apt-get install gnome-shell, still giving me that same error
[03:16] <moppy> minecraft is java and runs on linux
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: apt-get update
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: wait!
[03:17] <Romance> oh sec
[03:17] <Romance> huh
[03:17] <marlon> i using virtualbox
[03:17] <Romance> hitsujiTMO:
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> did you use the ppa-purge tool or --purge?
[03:18] <moppy> marlon - install the java virtual machine (JVM) from the ubuntu software center, and minecraft will work just fine; it's the same as windows: install the JVM, then run minecraft
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> marlon:  you might want to be a bit more detailed in your statements.   we barely know what you are meaning
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> Romance, You would add the ppa back install the gnome shell then run the ppa-purge.
[03:20] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: sorry, one more question, how much space does the base OS usually take up?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> Romance, the ppa-purge need to see all the packages that should be there to run correctly basically.
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> in a perfect world antway, lol
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> anyway*
[03:21] <marlon> im installing java 7
[03:21] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: with purge, apt-get update and tried to install still give same error
[03:22] <Romance> wilee-nilee: huh need to add it back?
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: about 6gb + your swap file (swap is same as ram)   .... you should have a minimum of 10GB on top of that as free space (i'd recommend minimum of 20gb
[03:22] <marlon> im new
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Romance, that would be the logical move, have you ever heard of aptitude, it uses it and another package app
[03:22] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: even in a virtual environment?
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: you need to add it all back in ... then install the ppa-purge tool. then then ppa-purge.
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: yeah
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: should give it a 30gb drive minimum if you're going to use it a lot
[03:23] <Romance> wilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ah ok so i add the noobslab ppa again, install gnome-shell, and do a ppa-purge ?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Remember your question could you do this, I said yes if done perfectly, not really a option for most.
[03:23] <phyphor> it's not going to do much
[03:23] <phyphor> it's going to play music off the main system
[03:24] <phyphor> and stream it to teh woooorld
[03:24] <marlon> this is ard
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: you can cut it down to 20gb then.
[03:25] <marlon99> hard
[03:25] <phyphor> good plan
[03:25] <phyphor> on it now
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:28] <mheinke> evening
[03:28] <marlon99> hi
[03:28] <mheinke> night
[03:30] <garcianc> phyphor, you can make it 100gb and set it as dynamically allocated too
[03:32] <Romance> wilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO: ok now it installed the gnome shell for 11.10 , Setting up gnome-shell (3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0)
[03:32] <Romance> so i just ppa-purge ?
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Romance, waht release are you running?
[03:32] <Romance> 12.04
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> Romance, what was the ppa you used?
[03:33] <Romance> ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:33] <Romance> i think it takes from there
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Romance, So you had used this in 11.10 and upgraded to 12.04 and decided to mess with it right?
[03:34] <Romance> wilee-nilee: no, this is a fresh install 12.04
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> Romance, That ppa has a 12.04 version, which did you load?
[03:34] <Romance> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[03:35] <Romance> i followed exactly from that site
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Cool that should be the 12.04 version, so you have to ass the ppa-purge ppa I believe, here comes the bot
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge
[03:35] <marlon99> im new to this software
[03:36] <Romance> wilee-nilee: what should i ppa-puge
[03:36] <Romance> purge*
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Romance, 12.04 uses a ppa for the purge I believe and the later releases it is in the ubuntu repos I believe.
[03:37] <Romance> huh?
[03:37] <Vicfred> hi
[03:37] <Vicfred> I have two files and I want to compare them to know the line numbers in where they differ, is there a program to do that? I need to compare the output of my program with an online judge's output
[03:37] <Romance> wilee-nilee: i dont get it
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> Romance: install ppa-purge
[03:37] <Romance> hitsujiTMO: i already had ppa-purge
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> romance: sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:38] <ObrienDave> Romance... sudo ppa-purge ppa:noobslab/gnome
[03:39] <marlon99> im watching a movie
[03:39] <Romance> sec
[03:39] <linux_unix-10> hello
[03:39] <marlon99> hi
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> marlon99: plz keep this channel for support only, you can talk about movies in #ubuntu-offtopic mate
[03:41] <linux_unix-10> justasking, but, is there an irc channel for elementary os, an ubuntu distro?
[03:41] <linux_unix-10> *just asking
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !asis
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: yeah, seems nothing preserves file permissions :(
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  their homepage may mention their irc channel also.
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: #elementary
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: maybe we can ask here
[03:42] <mheinke> #elementaryos as well
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  and its not an ubuntu disrto. ;) its based on ubuntu  12.04 last i looked however. :)
[03:42] <Romance> why does it say "dpkg: warning: downgrading gnome-shell-common from 3.4.1+git20120521.41a14e80-0ubuntu1~11.10~ricotz0 to 3.4.1-0ubuntu2." , does it mean 11.10 got latest gnome compare to 12.04?
[03:42] <linux_unix-10> still based on ubuntu
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> any alternative for dropbox that could preserve ubuntu file permissions?
[03:42] <mheinke> linux_unix-10, join #elementaryos
[03:43] <linux_unix-10> thanks
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: they all ignore permissions for windows compat ... even ubuntu one :(
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  or that ppa had a newer version then whats the default in 12.04
[03:44] <delinquentme> ok soooo if after 20 minutes of non-use ... my screen dims ... to save power .... BUT when I use the brightness slider and nothing happens
[03:44] <delinquentme> what does this mean?
[03:44] <Romance> Dr_Willis: ah ok
[03:44] <Romance> time to reboot lets see if it fixed this
[03:45] <Kao_Yuu> night
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> oh the fun of ppa's
[03:46] <ObrienDave> don't ya just love it?
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> I rarely have problems but I keep package lists at times, and know how to use them in general.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> hehe and clones of the OS, jus in case
[03:49] <Romance> well it works now but lol i hate this one, no minimize button, only has exit button on window
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> my inflated ego rarely allows me to ask for help
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: lol
[03:50] <Romance> wilee-nilee: how do i get back the default gnome shell as is in fresh 12.04 , this one kinda weird for me
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> Romance, Should install now sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  use the gnome shell extensions and tweak tools
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> yeah the tweak and the exstensions
[03:52] <guest-77RakO> don't know why i can't login into my account, when i log in i get a dark screen some error are displayed for a sec and again return back to the login screen ?
[03:52] <guest-77RakO> how can i fix this prob ?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> if you really want the best gnome-shell experience you should be trying the latest ubuntu release. since it has the newer gnome shell
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, any history leading to this?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> guest-77RakO:  does the guest user work, does a newly made user work?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> wilee-nilee, currently logged in through the guest user account
[03:53] <linux_unix-10> how can i save my screen resolution configuration for a persistent live usb system?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> now i don't have any rights to add the user.
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, Is it a normal login?
[03:53] <guest-77RakO> yes it is a normal login
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> guest-77RakO, I suspect Dr_Willis may be better here, well I know it actually.
[03:54] <guest-77RakO> wilee-nilee, ok
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, how are you setting it/
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> guest-77RakO:  at the console. try logging in as your user.
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> never mind...
[03:55] <delinquentme> soo brand new laptop lenov Y510P ... and I cant seem to get the brightness keys to work ...  =[[[
[03:55] <linux_unix-10> manually using xrandr
[03:56] <linux_unix-10> i use the command :  xrandr --addmode VGA1 1280x800
[03:56] <vnc___> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis i can log into vnc account which has root priveledges
[03:56] <linux_unix-10> on next boot the config resets to 1024x800 , both VGA1 and LVDS1
[03:57] <xgeek-cub> where the gpg.conf file is located?
[03:57] <linux_unix-10> how can i save my display resolution config
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, Isn't there a message to hit a key to save when you run it, all I can do is google that.
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> I rarely have used xrandr
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: you need to add entries to xorg.conf
[03:58] <linux_unix-10> only apply, but resets on next boot
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> what? :(
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> xorg.conf?
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: yes.
[03:59] <vnc___> the errors in the .xsession-errors it seems dbus is not running.
[03:59] <linux_unix-10> please tell me how to do it, xorg.conf's syntax is unreadable to me
[04:00] <linux_unix-10> :(
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: i haven't had to set any config in xorg in years so i'm after forgetting. but you can ask those in #xorg
[04:00] <linux_unix-10> thank you :) :D
[04:01] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, man xrandr gives some info in the cli
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> hehe once you understand better probably though.
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> expain please
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> *explain
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, man is manual many apps have man pages cli is the terminal.
[04:02] <linux_unix-10> oh that
[04:03] <linux_unix-10> thanks for clearing that up
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> I figured you new with this nick linux_unix-10
[04:03] <linux_unix-10> not really, just haven't been here for a while
[04:03] <vnc___> which is the log file which i should see for xsession errors ? .xsession-errors ? or there is anyother log file ?
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> mines a joke I forget others may be as well
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vnc___:  id add a new user 'sudo adduser billgates'   and see if that user can log in.  you might want toinstall a minimal window manager and see if that one works instead of unity/ubuntu also 'sudo apt-get install jwm'
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> vnc___: A Common issue iw the permissions/ownership of the .Xauthority file. you can rename.remove it if you want to see if it helps
[04:04] <somsip> vnc___: ~/.xsession-errors is the correct one for me
[04:05] <xgeek-cub> where is the gpg.conf?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  try 'locate gpg.conf'
[04:06] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: would you believe it won't now install in a VM? did the Ubuntu One log in part of installation and it looks ot have hung.
[04:06] <vnc___> loggin out and checking that new user works or not
[04:06] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis: no look
[04:06] <xgeek-cub> Dr_Willis : no luck
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: thats a bug... restart and choose to skip the login
[04:06] <phyphor> You stop using Ubuntu for 18 months and it all goes ot pot :(
[04:07] <phyphor> I was using Ubuntu at home for a long, long time
[04:07] <phyphor> like, back in the 6.0sometihng days, maybe?
[04:07] <phyphor> all the way through to 12.04
[04:08] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: I'll give it another shot
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  if its was only recently made then you may need to update the locate database.   'sudo updatedb' then  the 'sudo locate gpg.conf' again
[04:08] <phyphor> (thanks)
[04:08] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, Dr_Willis after removing the .Xauthority file it worked
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> !yay
[04:08] <zexcriz> logged into my own account
[04:08] <zexcriz> Willis, :D
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> zexcriz:  ive no idea what messes up the .Xauthoruty file. I think its when people use 'sudo' when they should be using 'gksudo'
[04:15] <dewdrop> Hi, I don't find /etc/sysconfig in Ubuntu 12.04, was that moved somewhere else?
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: afaik, /etc/sysconfig is the redhat way of doing things. what exactly are you looking for?
[04:17] <dewdrop> hitsujiTMO:  oh right, actually I was trying to fix an rsyslog issue by following https://stomp.colorado.edu/blog/blog/2010/05/20/on-rsyslog-and-warnings/
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: /etc/rsyslog.d/
[04:19] <CoJaBo> !ops Welles_Lemuelson spamming in PM
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> dewdrop: parent ofc is /etc/rsyslog.conf
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> CoJaBo: report in #ubuntu-ops
[04:21] <IdleOne> handled for now
[04:24] <mlt-> How can I restore scrolling repeat on touch pad buttons with 13.10?
[04:24] <mlt-> I feel like it used to work on previous versions
[04:25] <mlt-> synclient -l does not event mention UpDownScrollRepeat anymore
[04:25] <dewdrop> hitsujiTMO: thanks, adding SYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-c3" to rsyslog.conf shows up an error"rsyslogd: unknown priority name "" I will go read the man pages
[04:26] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: 3.5 hours later I have an installed Ubuntu OS (albeit in a VM) - maybe in the future I can break out of the virtualised world, but it'll do for now
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: hehe, hopefully ... gz on getting something up at least
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> phyphor, here is a thread that might be helpful overall. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[04:28] <kb8wlu> Anyone help installing gtx 680 drivers in unbuntu
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> tha manufacturers have their own tweaked uefi setups, that is the context
[04:28] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: booed and I've now had the keyboard and software updater closed unexptedly :(
[04:28] <phyphor> wow
[04:29] <xgeek-cub> Does apt-get dist-upgrade change the ubuntu Versio from one to another
[04:29] <xgeek-cub> ?
[04:30] <xgeek-cub> ?
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> xgeek-cub, nope
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> !dist-upgrade | xgeek-cub
[04:31] <phyphor> and even though I told it to installupdates during installation, immeditely post install it has updates - hitsujiTMO is this common? I've never had this number of ussies with previous versions
[04:31] <wolftune> anyone have a clue how to start troubleshooting my machine that won't suspend? It suspends and then immediately wakes up on its own!
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> phyphor: i don't think i've ever actually see it update anything during installation.
[04:31] <kb8wlu> anyone know the process for installing gtx680 graphics drivers for unbuntu
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, unplug the mouse and see if it happens
[04:32] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: there's no mouse, no peripherals at all
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, Ah, hmm, laptop?
[04:32] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: laptop?
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> i think updated during install. updates a core set of packages.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> like security only updates
[04:33]  * mlt- is shocked... touchpad scroll repeat was ditched http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/10208/ Did this patch go through?
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: probably. even a debootstap install doesn't install the latest of everything
[04:33]  * Dr_Willis dosent even know what 'touchpad scroll repeat' would mean.
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> the daily do
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> touchpad scroll sucks.....oh wait, what is it.
[04:35] <mlt-> Dr_Willis: I have separate buttons for up/down scrolling. Now I have constantly to press those instead of holding, e.g. in a browser
[04:36] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: hmm, I wonder if my touchpad is sending signals when I don't touch it or something else…
[04:36] <mlt-> pretty annoying
[04:37] <wolftune> the question is: how can I check what signals that would wake the computer are being sent to troubleshoot??
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, That was my thought, as far as a mouse getting vibrations "man"
[04:37] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: more than likely its a kernel module not working properly
[04:37] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: ah, this did seem to happen with the 3.11 kernel I install as backport…
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: have you googled to see if others are having the same issue?
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: with your laptop model that is
[04:38] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: I don't google I duckduckgo. But yeah, I did some searches but don't know how to search
[04:38] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: like what to type
[04:38] <wolftune> I mean I did obvious searches
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: what is your laptop model?
[04:39] <wolftune> anyway, the same laptop (Thinkpad Twist) was fine before, so it does seem to be a 3.11 issue
[04:39] <wolftune> except sometimes with 3.11 it works correctly
[04:39] <wolftune> so it's not consistent always, it's sometimes ok
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, unity desktop?
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: whats the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep xmir
[04:40] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: so searching shows up all sorts of issues about waking and suspending but dunno how to isolate search to this issue
[04:41] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: not using mir
[04:41] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: I'm actually on KDE
[04:41] <wolftune> It's Ubuntu but I have KDE installed, not Unity
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, same in both de?
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: you should at least report a bug. only bugs im seeing are reported against xmir
[04:42] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: I only use KDE
[04:43] <garcianc> wolftune, I remember years ago I had a Thinkpad running Ubuntu and the touchpad was all over the place until I messed around with synaptics. I can't really remember what i did, but you could search for that.
[04:43] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: how can I clarify the bug? Is there a way to even figure out what is waking the computer up?
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: last comment here reports a *fix* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1213233
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> wolftune, You could make another user and see if it happens there.
[04:43] <wolftune> wilee-nilee: that's an interesting idea
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> check the bug though
[04:44] <kb8wlu> How do i install gtx680 nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: report the bug, then apport the bug id
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: that could just be miss assigned tho
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> yeah may be
[04:47] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: looks like that bug is my bug, I'll work from there, thanks!
[04:51] <kb8wlu> xxa
[04:51] <kb8wlu> Help installing gtx nvidia drivers
[04:51] <ssj5goku> i want to install dlna on my pc so that i can play songs and videos from my android phone .....how can i do that??
[04:52] <ssj5goku> +
[04:53] <Paulus68_1> kb8wlu: perhaps this can help you  http://askubuntu.com/questions/296422/nvidia-gtx-680-drivers-ubuntu-13-04-black-screen
[04:54] <wolftune> hitsujiTMO: thanks again, reported that it affects me too, and the fix did it, I'm happy yay!
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> wolftune: sweet
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> ssj5goku: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA
[04:58] <finetuner> Is there a torrent search downloader app for ubuntu 10.04 ??
[04:58] <finetuner> something that's easy to install and just works
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> finetuner: desktop or server?
[04:58] <finetuner> laptop
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | finetuner
[04:59] <somsip> !pinning
[04:59] <pero> !help
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  hmm.. cant say ive really noticed a torrent search front end..  theres several torrent-meta search sites like torrentpond.
[04:59] <pero> what's the command for package info?
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> i'm afraid 10.0 is eol. best to upgrade it to 12.04. there's transmission in that ( with the latest version available from ppa )
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> pero: !info packagename
[05:00] <pero> !info chromium-browser
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  with Unity and its Lens feature. there might be some Torrent Lenss available.
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> pero and you can do that in a provat emessage
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> private*
[05:01] <finetuner> I'm looking for a torrent app like frostwire for 10.04 that has a built-in search engine and downloading ability
[05:01] <finetuner> unfortunately frostwire doesn't work because it needs jre 7 which isn't available in 10.04
[05:01] <finetuner> <searches apt-cache for torrent.....
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> finetuner:  you really should update to a newer reelase
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> finetuner: nothing is being updated for 10.04 as its end of life. you need to upgrade to 12.04
[05:02] <ssj5goku> hitsujiTMO: i couldnt figure how to install it... i am new.....can you please help
[05:03] <alpha-android> Hey guys i need some help. Got a new system and it didnt come wigh an os.....
[05:04] <alpha-android> Ii wanted to load linux on it. However when he load screen comes up
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> alpha-android, linux or ubuntu?
[05:05] <alpha-android> Iit asks me if i want to install or run off cd. Doesnt matter what i choose it then voes to a grey screen hen nothing
[05:05] <alpha-android> Ubuntu
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | alpha-android
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | alpha-android
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> alpha-android, Make sure the disc is good check the sum
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Gotten where i dont need nomodeset for any of my nvidia systems any more. ;)
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> alpha-android: I also suggest nomodeset
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> alpha-android:  what is the video card/chipset on the pc?
[05:07] <alpha-android> My new system has an nvidia gf gt630
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> then nomodeset may be needed.
[05:08] <alpha-android> Running intel i3
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> still nomodeset
[05:08] <alpha-android> And how do i input this command
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> once you get the system installed. you may then need to install the proper nvidia drivers
[05:08] <qwebirc> When I try to run this command (sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs+504M) it outputs this: dd: memory exhausted by input buffer of size 528482304 bytes
[05:08] <qwebirc> bs=504M*
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> read  the url the bot pasted above.. shows how to enable nomodeset
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  you dont want to use 504mb for a Block size.
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: by such a high blocksize?
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  anything over 8mb is most likely pointless
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> why*
[05:09] <qwebirc> but someone told me I should put my ram size there?
[05:09] <qwebirc> my ram is 504 MB
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> qwebirc:  i dont know why someone would say such a silly thing
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: they wanted to kill your ram mostlikely
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> we are telling you to NOT use such a insane number
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> 4mb would be plenty
[05:10] <qwebirc> so 4MB is cool
[05:10] <qwebirc> Thanks
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: i've actualyl found not specifying a blacksize to be faster with some SSDs
[05:11] <qwebirc> while(true); do kill -USR1 `pgrep -l dd | egrep ' dd$' | awk '{ print $1 }'`; sleep 5m; done
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: but yeah. if you're going to specify something. 4M is good
[05:12] <qwebirc> Can this be used to check the status of the wipe?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> try it and see.
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:12] <qwebirc> well what would you suggest to check the status?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> id just start it running.. then to fix supper..
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> it will quit when its done..
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: ive only ever just ran and headed off to do somethign else and not worry about it
[05:13] <qwebirc> Okay then
[05:13] <qwebirc> wish me luck bye
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> qwebirc: you could also use offsets
[05:22] <daveyg> Popped my head in to say hi,
[05:22] <ganjaherbs> i dont know if this is modifiying a dev rule , BUT i figured out how to manually over ride the bluetooth. the command is <echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/bluetooth.override>
[05:22] <daveyg> Hi!
[05:23] <daveyg> What you trying to do ganjaherbs?
[05:24] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: just comletely disable bluetooth on start up.
[05:24] <ganjaherbs> ie not load the module or daemon
[05:25] <daveyg> Doesnt bluetooth load just the same as a wifi card?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, You have a gui?
[05:25] <ganjaherbs> right so we have to disable the daemon that handles the module and i also blacklisted the module as well
[05:25] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: yes
[05:26] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: 13.10 desktop on thinkpad x220
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, I turn it off in startup applications, not sure if that works for you.
[05:26] <daveyg> Only say that as i have a wifi card i dont like loading on boot so  i use a bash script to run on boot to kill it.
[05:26] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: well i ran the sed one liner to show hidden startup but bluetooth doesnt show up on saucy now
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> heh, not surprised
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> heaven forbid you need can you remember all that?
[05:27] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: i guess sure
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> ah long term is okay, hehe
[05:28] <ganjaherbs> well al it is is i have the echo manual over ride and the blacklist
[05:29] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: so far i only added uvcvideo  and bluetooth to the blacklist
[05:29] <wilee-nilee> ah
[05:31] <victor__> hi
[05:31] <victor__> I am here
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> finally
[05:31] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: i have noticed people getting the < | > command mixed up with the ">>" command
[05:31] <daveyg> easy done.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, Not sure what you mean, I'm just a bystander overall.
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> no code here
[05:33] <daveyg> i still dont understand the pipe command really, the > or >> ive just about got my head around.
[05:33] <ola2> how to run add-apt repository without asking for user permission
[05:33] <ola2> means i will run that in sh script
[05:33] <ganjaherbs> i am only 3 chapters in to this Linux command line book and its been 6 months i started trying to learn it.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> check its command line options
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> daveyg: just think of bash as a colection of rivers and you need to pipe a stream from one river to the next
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> ola2:  it may have some --yes option
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:   the basics shouldent take very long.. then you learn what you need as you need it
[05:35] <daveyg> ola2: do you have root privs?
[05:35] <ObrienDave> ganjaherbs... trying to remember all of it is the hard part ;)
[05:35] <Xirre> I'm using MonoDevelop as an IDE for Ubuntu and whenever I use "using System.Net.Sockets;" I get the following error: http://www.byond.com/members/Xirre/files/Net%20Namespace.png
[05:35] <Xirre> Any idea why?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> ola2:   add-apt-repository --help    shoes a --yes   option
[05:35] <ola2> thank you willis
[05:35] <daveyg> if so you can use sudo -s
[05:35] <ola2> u saved a lots of work
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> ola2:  all i did was read the docs. :)   well the --help outpuyt
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> most of the apt tools have a --yes option
[05:36] <daveyg> that will allow you root privs within that cli.
[05:36] <ola2> dr willis just i want to save day
[05:36] <ola2> so its like that asking experts
[05:36] <ola2> thanks a lot
[05:36] <Arch_NME> is there a CD sized iso for ubuntu 13.10?
[05:37] <Arch_NME> I don't have a dvd burner
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> bash 101 lesson #4      commandname --help    or  commandname -help       often gives a quick help guide.  ;)
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  you could use a flash drive
[05:37] <Arch_NME> I don't have one of those either
[05:37] <Snake2k> Hey everyone, my system already has 3 primary parititions (ntfs), I want to install ubuntu 13.10, how do I install it on a logical partition?
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  thats how most people install these days.
[05:37] <daveyg> Ive learnt so much from irc ola2
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> !mini | Arch_NME
[05:37] <Arch_NME> it's 1:37am at my location and all I have is a cd burner and blank CDs
[05:37]  * Dr_Willis looks at his necklace of 12+ flash drives....   ;)
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> Arch_NME, use the net install very tiny.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu Might fit on a cd.
[05:38] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: unlucky man, i found an 8 gb flash drive at a bus stop the other day....
[05:38] <Arch_NME> ahh, yes that sounds perfect
[05:38] <Paulus68_1> Dr_Willis:  and you look mighty pretty too :D with that necklace
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> i got a 16gb flash drive thats so tiny its  barely noticeable when plugged in. :)
[05:38] <hitsujiTMO> Arch_NME: the mini cd is no good if you want to do a uefi install tho
[05:38] <Arch_NME> or no wait, text basedis no god
[05:39] <Arch_NME> I need a live CD
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  then try lubuntu. why do you NEED a live cd to install?
[05:39] <daveyg> cant you install 10.04 off a cd then use then internet connection to upgrade? Arch_NME?
[05:39] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: external cdr/dvr drive?
[05:39] <Arch_NME> I needto run gparted to repartition my drive prior to the install
[05:39] <Snake2k> Anyone?
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, 10,04 would need a eol upgrade not really a positive.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  theres the cli fdisk and parted tools
[05:39] <daveyg> Sup Snake2k?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  and cfdisk.
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I got to do complicated stuff
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I want a gui
[05:40] <hitsujiTMO> Arch_NME: the mini cd is only a text based installer. you can still install the graphical environment with it
[05:40] <ganjaherbs> so you want to install from a hdd partition? can you do that?
[05:40] <Arch_NME> I've got a software raid5 thing going that I need to resize
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  theres a gparted live cd iso you can get
[05:40] <daveyg> Whats eol wilee-nilee?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> but i know nothing about raid. ;)
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, end of life
[05:40] <Arch_NME> it's ubuntu softwareraid so I thought I would need ubuntu to fix it
[05:40] <Arch_NME> no?
[05:40] <Snake2k> daveyg: I need to install ubuntu 13.10.. now the system already has 3 primary partitions, when i make logical parititions they don't show up on the installer, when there is unallocated space the ubuntu installer says "unusable".. So do i get this to work
[05:41] <Snake2k> daveyg: I cannot turn a whole physical parition into ext4
[05:41] <Arch_NME> maybe I will just try the gparted CD first, thanks
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, You need a extended to contain logicals
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> its a handy cd to have.
[05:42] <daveyg> def.
[05:42] <Arch_NME> I just hope it can resize a software raid
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> that grml live cd - is alwo handy. but its more for power-admin type users. ;)
[05:42] <Arch_NME> or even recognize it
[05:42] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: do I have to turn one of my physical partitions into extended? will there be data loss?
[05:42] <daveyg> i bet its something to do with the mbr rather than the way your formating the drive.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Snake2k:  you mean 'primary' not 'physical' i think
[05:42] <Snake2k> Dr_Willis: oh yea sorry lol
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> You can have 4 primary partions max on non-gpt systems.. ONE of those can be an extended that holds logicals
[05:43] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: as in raring ringtail eol is SOON !!!
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, It would help if we could see a screen shot of gparted, at least me anyway.
[05:43] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Im using windows to make those partitions.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, YOU can't make ext type partitions in windows
[05:44] <Snake2k> :/
[05:44] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Isn't there any way to just use the wubi way to install ubuntu on windows? :/ the alongside windows thing just reboots into windows..
[05:44] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee:  because they are Linux partitions right?
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, My bet is you have 4 primaries the boot does not show in it;s partitioner.
[05:44] <daveyg> although you should be able to drop ubuntu on a dis-used partion and format to ext?
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> ganjaherbs, loosely yes.
[05:45] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Yea i guess its 4 because of the system reserve thing too..
[05:45] <ganjaherbs> wilee-nilee: ie as in Unix/Linux and POSIX
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, Any one but the boot can go in the extended, the firmware is commonly used.
[05:46] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: HAVE YOU TRIED A LIVE USB CREATED WITH UNETBOOTIN?
[05:46] <ganjaherbs> ops caps
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, This is not a W8 uefi right?
[05:46] <daveyg> using gpart will def allow you to make an ext partion
[05:47] <daveyg> but ubuntu cd should do that for you anyway
[05:47] <ganjaherbs> you could create a ext partition running a live session from a flash drive created with unetbootin?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> backup everything.. befor messing with messing around your partions.. ;)
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> +1
[05:47] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: I made the usb from the "universal usb installer" from pendrivelinux.com
[05:47] <Arch_NME> where is the fun in that?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> ganjaherbs:  yes. ou can install/run gparted from a live usb
[05:47] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Nope
[05:47] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: unetbootin is better IMO
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, cool I have  short job I do in a moment nightly so others can help if needed.
[05:48] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Could that be the problem why alongside windows doesn't work?
[05:48] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: yes
[05:48] <daveyg> dont install linux to a pen drive etc and think it will keep working,
[05:48] <Snake2k> wilee-nilee: Thank :)
[05:48] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: try again using unetbootin and set the disk space allowed for file ..... to 9999
[05:48] <daveyg> unless you really know what your doing it will cause all kinds of problems in the near future
[05:48] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Will do that now :)
[05:49] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: ok
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> ive done full install to flash drives ;) ran fine..
[05:50] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Btw just need to know one thing.. when i do a alongside windows, and if the system reboots, should i just let it continue or make it boot from usb.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> live usb installs are best used for short term  tasks.
[05:50] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: choose the "install along side " option from the unetbootin grub menu
[05:50] <daveyg> Doe for a while Dr_Willis, but i find in the end it fails.
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Snake2k:  after it instgalls  and reboots you dont need the flash drive any more.
[05:50] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: no reset your bios to boot from hdd
[05:50] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: Dr_Willis: Thank you very much, I will do that now and let you guys know :)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  ran for almost 6 months+ that way. :)  not had my 16gb flash have issues..  but it was a big $8    so im not worried
[05:51] <ganjaherbs> $8
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> ive had more hard drive failures then i have had flash drive failures..  unless you count the flash drives going throught the clothes washer/dryer as a failure. ;)
[05:51] <daveyg> my problem happened if i changed usb port.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> change usb port? cant say ive ever had that be an issue. booted a full usb flash install on differnt machines and ports.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> just have to watch out what drivers you install ;) if switching machines.
[05:53] <Snake2k> Dr_Willis: ganjaherbs: unetbootin doesn't have options for 13.10 :/
[05:54] <ganjaherbs> Snake2k: i used it already.. are you sure?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> i use tools from the pendrivelinux site.. not unetbootin
[05:54] <ObrienDave> Snake2k... select the ISO.
[05:54] <daveyg> If your good with linux Dr_Willis then thats straight forward.
[05:54] <daveyg> but for most of us newbies it can be the end of the road.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> theres a multisystem tool i use that lets  me have several disrtos/isos on the same flash
[05:55] <ObrienDave> Snake2k... at the bottom of the unetbootin window
[05:55] <Snake2k> ganjaherbs: ObrienDave: found the thing lol
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  with the use of UUID's there sholdent be an issue with running from USB and changeing ports. unles theres some odd hardware quirk on the pc
[05:56] <Snake2k> Okay its creating the usb
[05:56] <daveyg> you seem to know what your talking about Dr_Willis.
[05:56] <rchavik> hi, is there away for apt-get to only 'update' specific repo?
[05:56] <daveyg> Im running ubuntu 12
[05:57] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: he is Linux certified if that is what you mean?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> im certified insane...
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[05:57] <Arch_NME> linux certified???
[05:57] <ganjaherbs> Dr Insane
[05:57] <ObrienDave> yes, we know LOL
[05:57] <daveyg> sometimes for no reason it freezes
[05:58] <daveyg> Is there a way to record the errors before i get locked out?
[05:58] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: compTiA LInux+ Certification
[05:58] <daveyg> If it was a windows pc i would turn on error reporting ? is there something simular?
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> daveyg:  install the ssh service. ssh in from another box and monitor the logs and see what happens when it freezes.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> if SSH also freezes then its a deep issue.. if its just X freezeing. then its a driver/X issue
[05:59] <daveyg> Wouldnt work.
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drink
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> Arch_NME: Dr Willis could probly pass it while drinknk
[06:00] <ganjaherbs> oops
[06:00] <daveyg> I would think that when the freeze happens you would not even get a ping back from the ip
[06:01] <ganjaherbs> Dr_Willis: could you take the test while drunk and pass it with flying colors?
[06:01] <cindyP> Is there anyone who can help me set up a new partition in fstab? I've tried and it isn't working
[06:03] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: you should tell us what machine you are using
[06:03] <daveyg> cindyP: you tried something like gpart's boot cd?
[06:03] <cindyP> hmm machine? Lenovo
[06:03] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: OS?
[06:04] <cindyP> I have a working system working Ubuntu 12.04 just want to mount a partition ext4 for some extra space
[06:04] <ganjaherbs> gparted
[06:04] <cindyP> Did gparted to create and format the partition
[06:04] <daveyg> But just to load a drive.
[06:05] <daveyg> what about webmin?
[06:05] <cindyP> I created mount point in /media
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[06:05] <cindyP> I edited fstab but I can't access the drive - permission problem?
[06:05] <daveyg> makes loading a drive really easy without knowing what your really doing with linux mount options?
[06:06] <cindyP> don't think I have webmin
[06:06] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: there is a command you need to run and post the output to pastebin but i dont know the command.. they can help you then
[06:07] <daveyg> cindyP: maybe try http://www.webmin.com/deb.html
[06:07] <dmann> cindyP: what is the filesystem on the new partition?
[06:07] <Manson> hi there
[06:08] <daveyg> once you have it running you should be able to pick any drive, mount it and tell it to auto mount every time you boot.
[06:08] <cindyP> file system is ext4
[06:08] <daveyg> what you think ganjaherbs?
[06:09] <dmann> what partition /dev/# is it?
[06:09] <ganjaherbs> daveyg: it is out of my leaugeu right now but i suggest checking the ubuntu forums
[06:09] <Arch_NME> well, in case anyone is curious gaparted can see my software raid but it won't let me resize it
[06:10] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: http://askubuntu.com/questions/232790/automount-ext4-partition-with-user-permission-ownership-fstab
[06:10] <ganjaherbs> that should about sum it up
[06:10] <daveyg> Arch_NME:  there is a boot cd that will let you change partion size
[06:11] <cindyP> thanks ganjaherbs - let me digest that link for a moment
[06:11] <daveyg> i know its out there because ive done it before
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> !raid
[06:11] <ganjaherbs> cindyP: thats what its all about.. doing the homework.. no real way around it:)
[06:12] <daveyg> Whats the reason behind what your trying to do cindyP?
[06:12] <alpha-android> That command didnt qork
[06:13] <linux_is_my_hero> I'm having trouble with a dual-boot windows 7/ ubuntu 13.10 installation, if anyone can help me, here's my problem: after installing windows 7 ultimate N, I then proceeded to install ubuntu 13.10 and the partitioner created some strange soup sandwich of partitions and told me my swap file wasn't big enough. Before I made the swap file larger with the ubuntu installer's partition tool, I noticed that there were two rand
[06:13] <daveyg> hi alpha-android.
[06:13] <alpha-android> Hi davey
[06:14] <alpha-android> Im tryinv to get ubuntu to load on cd. It just wont do it. It goes to thw option screen then whatwver i choose it just voes to a grey screen and does nogi g
[06:15] <daveyg> whats up alpha-android? im an android fan so thought i would say hi.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> alpha-android:  try the mini cd perhaps? it uses a text based installer
[06:16] <alpha-android> Someone suggested unetbootin
[06:16] <ObrienDave> alpha-android... neither will help if you have a bad DL
[06:16] <Guest49416> HI, got a question regarding file sharing between ubuntu and windows.  I set it up, ubuntu can see the windows machine, but when I try to access it, it gives "Failed to retreive share list from server".  When I did a tcpdump to checkout what's happening, I see that the Login is failing.  It's not prompting me to enter the Windows user name, so windows is rejecting the connection.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[06:16] <daveyg> linux_is_my_hero: dont no if this would help but maybe,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:16] <ganjaherbs> ObrienDave: hash sum?
[06:16] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: thanks! :-)
[06:17] <ObrienDave> ganjaherbs... yep MD5 is your friend
[06:17] <anudas> guest, smb share
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !md5
[06:17] <Guest49416> anudas: what do you mean by "smb share"?
[06:18] <anudas> guest, try to learn somethink about sms or samba
[06:18] <anudas> smb
[06:18] <Guest49416> anudas: kinda trying to... any helpful hints?
[06:18] <cindyP> ganjaherbs: the chown command seems to have done the trick. Going to reboot now to recheck thanks
[06:18] <alpha-android> What was that command again for nvidia cards? I have my nvidia hooked into the monitor. Maybe i should hook it up to the onboard instead and see if it installs. But then i will have to try install dfivers
[06:19] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: how do i just remove all partitions except the one that windows is on, so i can force ubuntu to do a clean install with the remaining 70 of 320 GB? ubuntu never fully installed when i tried to install it
[06:20] <ganjaherbs> <sudo chown -R myname.myname /media/data/> may have solved cindy's issue
[06:20] <daveyg> just boot from the install cd.
[06:20] <Arch_NME> I think this is my answer: http://webapp5.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/SuSe-Dokumentation/manual/sles-manuals_en/manual/raidresize.html
[06:20] <daveyg> should allow you to pick where you install it to.
[06:21] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: i do that and it gives me some rubbish about partitions not being proper. i notice that the root partition is only 4GB and the swap is only 4GB. i can adjust the swap size, but not the root size.
[06:21] <daveyg> if i remember correctly you have to hit the advanced rather than clicking through
[06:22] <daveyg> You dont so happen to have a motherboard that is set to raid?
[06:22] <linux_is_my_hero> daveyg: no raid
[06:23] <daveyg> Do you have a spare hdd that you can put into that pc?
[06:23] <linux_is_my_hero> nope
[06:23] <linux_is_my_hero> i could format the hdd from the bios and start over and install windows and then ubuntu...any other ideas?
[06:24] <daveyg> You have windows running okay i guess?
[06:24] <linux_is_my_hero> yes :-)
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, can you screen shot gparted from the live cd and imagebin it?
[06:24] <daveyg> do you have a partion apart from windows to use?
[06:24] <anudas> ubuntu software center, system, NFS
[06:25] <linux_is_my_hero> wille-nilee: i can do that, but i have to log out and come back
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> format the hd from the bios?
[06:25] <linux_is_my_hero> Dr-Willis: yes, format the hd from the bios
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> cant sayive ever seen a bios that could format a Hard drive
[06:26] <daveyg> im with Dr_Willis!
[06:26] <Hai_Karate> test test
[06:26] <ubuntu_> Hi
[06:26] <daveyg> Hai_Karate: test 2 test 2
[06:26] <Hai_Karate> Thanks
[06:26] <daveyg> nps
[06:27] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me with ubuntu bootup issue I m facing.
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> !details
[06:27] <daveyg> Whats the problem ubuntu_?
[06:27] <R0b0t1> Hi, I am on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, how do I install SDL 2 development libraries? I need base, image, mixer, andI think one more.
[06:28] <ubuntu_> Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found.
[06:28] <ubuntu_> This is what I get when I try to boot 13.10
[06:28] <LuisGere> hi, i have a problem on ubuntu 13.10... why i can't erase a carpet on trash?
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> LuisGere, carpet on trash?
[06:29] <anudas> ubuntu software center, mixer in into search panel
[06:29] <ubuntu_> I get this error on booting 13.10 "Kernal panic- not syncing : No init found."
[06:30] <LuisGere> wilee-nilee i don't know how to explain... do you speak spanish? it was a carpet that i was erase and i can't erase de trash (vaciar papelera)
[06:30] <AngryNinja> hello all
[06:30] <Hai_Karate> Hi all
[06:30] <ObrienDave> !es | LuisGere
[06:30] <daveyg> Did it ever work ubuntu_?
[06:30] <AngryNinja> any geeks in here?
[06:31] <AngryNinja> lol
[06:31] <LuisGere> ubottu thanks!
[06:31] <xmetal> am i losing my mind or is this not making sense?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  use the package manager tools and look for the SDL* -dev packages
[06:31] <ubuntu_> yes it was working the first time I installed it.
[06:31] <anudas> english :-)
[06:32] <daveyg> I guess i fall into into the geek cat AngryNinja, why?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  or use the 'sudo apt-get build-deps packagename'  (or ws it build-dep) to pull in all needed dev packages for a package to compile
[06:32] <wilee-nilee> AngryNinja, just freaks
[06:32] <ubuntu_> I think windows might have something to do with changing the init file..
[06:32] <AngryNinja> lol daveyg, it was just a conv starter. I never know what to say in these things
[06:32] <ObrienDave> xmetal... since you haven't asked anything, you must be losing your mind
[06:32] <ObrienDave> ;)
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> xmetal:  did you look under the couch? theres where my mind normally is when loose it.
[06:33] <daveyg> Im in, What you up to AngryNinja?
[06:33] <xmetal> was talking about the "carpet on trash" type comments
[06:33] <xmetal> lol
[06:34] <michaela> how do you build software from source
[06:34] <ObrienDave> LMAO yup, gotcha
[06:34] <xmetal> i keep mine on a leash so if it trys to get away, it cant get far
[06:34] <AngryNinja> not much daveyg, just trying to figure out something in linux...was hoping I could come here and pick someones brain
[06:34] <AngryNinja> u?
[06:34] <ubuntu_> I believe it was because of dual boot of Windows and Ubuntu which might have caused the problem
[06:34] <daveyg> build software from source is easy, Save up and pay someone!
[06:34] <LuisGere> nobody talks on #ubuntu-es -.-
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_, Rather unlikely, but go ahead.
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> the dual boot sort of yes, windows unlikely
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu_, Have you checked the sum of the iso or disc? how fast was it burnt?
[06:36] <daveyg> AngryNinja: snet over a pm if that makes it easier for you to start.
[06:37] <ObrienDave> LuisGere... okay, what do you mean by 'carpet on trash'?
[06:38] <LuisGere> a file that i erase
[06:38] <daveyg> wilee-nilee: the amount of times if failed installing linux because of a poor download
[06:38] <LuisGere> and then i can't empty the trash
[06:38] <LuisGere> i don't know why
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> LuisGere, This root trash?
[06:39] <daveyg> from cli, rm -r then folder name
[06:39] <LuisGere> no root,
[06:39] <LuisGere> i try with rm -r and it don't works
[06:40]  * xmetal scratches head
[06:40] <anudas> rm -r :-) nonback command :-)
[06:40] <LuisGere> i think that i have to empty like a root user
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !trash
[06:40] <daveyg> sudo first?
[06:40] <ObrienDave> makes sense to me
[06:40] <LuisGere> thanks i going to try it ubottu
[06:42] <xmetal> okkkkkkkkk re-reading it i think i got it ... file got deleted, and its in the trash can but they want to empty the trash can it "something is not allowing it to empty" and that file is still there (in the can)
[06:42]  * xmetal yawns
[06:42] <LuisGere> what's it happens? a file was create only
[06:43] <LuisGere> and them i can't empty the trash, it can be virus?
[06:43] <LuisGere> yes xmetal
[06:43] <Quest> Is there a (or expected) problem if too many files are stored in one directory?
[06:43] <anudas> virus on linux?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  virus? Your windows mindset is showing
[06:43] <LuisGere> i don't think so, right?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  whats the exact path to the directory/file you are having issues with?
[06:44] <ObrienDave> Quest... there is NO limit to the number of files in one sub-directory
[06:44] <xmetal> lol @ "your windows mindset is showing"
[06:44] <daveyg> Windows rules
[06:44] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: It is a self-compiled package. How do I search available packages?
[06:45] <anudas> Quest, how many files you sugest?
[06:45] <LuisGere> ubottu thanks, i resolve the problem
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  Im no tsure what you mean. give the channel more details
[06:45] <LuisGere> but i don't know why the file create only
[06:45] <LuisGere> XD oks, the bot resolve my problem!
[06:46] <ObrienDave> *face palm*
[06:46] <xmetal> i know i am really tired right now, but i feel lost trying to follow this
[06:46] <xmetal> lol
[06:46] <LuisGere> i have to erase it like a root user on  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[06:47] <LuisGere> sorry for my english xmetal, i really have to practice.
[06:47] <xmetal> hmmm @ just got a spam PM for diapers
[06:48] <xmetal> oh no problem at all .. just trying to follow along to see if i can help
[06:48] <ObrienDave> xmetal... don't feel like the "Lone Ranger" LOL
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> its weird that trash gets owned by root.. unless you were using sudo and the file manager.. or somthing
[06:50] <LuisGere> i tried to erase it with bleachbit but it didn't work
[06:51] <xmetal> ah ... so a file got the deleted on a non-root acct and now its in the bin "root" is who the file belongs too
[06:51] <xmetal> hmm @ a command line way to empty the bin with "sudo" command in front
[06:52] <LuisGere> but when i try deleted on a non-root acct it didn't work. I can't delete that file
[06:52] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get install dyson "twice the suction"
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> sudo rm  /path/to/file   ;)
[06:52] <xmetal> hmm wonder if running Bleachbit as root would do it
[06:52] <xmetal> er
[06:52] <xmetal> with root permissions i mean
[06:52] <xmetal> not sure if i am saying that right
[06:52] <Snake2k> Im having some weird problems with ubuntu install, I can't see my mouse cursor anymore :/
[06:52] <Snake2k> That is when I made the iso from unetbootin
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> most likely they ran the file manager as root. and its in roots trash.. running th efile manager as root and using its 'empty the trash' would do it.
[06:53] <LuisGere> and i don't know why this file apears
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Best is to Not run nautilus as root.
[06:53]  * xmetal "Symathy laugh" at willie's joke
[06:53] <xmetal> :|
[06:53] <xmetal> and i typo'd that bad
[06:53] <wilee-nilee> I said was it root to start with
[06:53] <xmetal> Sympathy
[06:53] <ObrienDave> 'tis ok, we understand typonese ;)
[06:54] <xmetal> yep
[06:55] <victor__> hi
[06:55] <victor__> xmetal
[06:55] <victor__> exit
[06:56] <LuisGere> thanks everybody, i can empty the trash. But why that file apears only?
[06:56] <phyphor> hitsujiTMO: Virtual box really doesn't play nicely with sound. VMWare player finalyc racked it
[06:56] <phyphor> 6 hours after I started :)
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  as i said earlier. my guess.. You were playing around with Running the File Manager as root.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  since you havent vgiven us any real detaias as to the files name/path all we can do is guess
[06:58] <xmetal> !details
[06:58] <LuisGere> the file that apear only was MS hPnKoe
[06:59] <Quest> ObrienDave anudas 8 million
[06:59] <Quest> ObrienDave anudas http://www.olark.com/spw/2011/08/you-can-list-a-directory-with-8-million-files-but-not-with-ls/
[07:00]  * xmetal "throws in the towel"
[07:00] <LuisGere> and i don't playing with running the file manager as root, i play it as root when i read this here and delete the file, it works
[07:00] <ObrienDave> Quest... that is NOT the same as a file limit. that is a limit of the "ls" function
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> echo *
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ;)  that has a limit also
[07:02] <xmetal> true @ ObrienDave
[07:02] <Arch_NME> file manager?? you mean nuatilus?
[07:02] <LuisGere>  i don't understand =(
[07:02] <LuisGere> yes i mean nautilus
[07:03] <Arch_NME> just out of curiousity why would you not want to run that as root?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  why would you need to run the File manager as root?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  your user has full access to their own files just fine whenrunning it as the user.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> run Nautiuls as root.. one accidental deletion = system wont boot.. or worse
[07:04] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, to edit some system files or something idk, why not
[07:04] <ObrienDave> Quest... only the ROOT directory of a drive has an entry limit. SUB-directories have NO limit
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  use the shell as root to do those tasks. Not the gui tools.. thats the best way
[07:04] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, but why? It's easier to use gui tools
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  if you got a nautlius window running as root.. and one thats not.. which window is which? ;)
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> you come back 30 min later.. 2 nautiuls windows open..  one can potentially delte your entire system...
[07:05] <LuisGere> well i think i can't explain with details on english my problem, but you said me how to fix it. Very thanks to all! ;)
[07:05] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, lol, why would I attmpt to delete my entire system in any window
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> LuisGere:  if its owned by root.. you need sudo./root rights to delete it..
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  as i said.. one MISS CLICK - and it can be gone.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> compiz has a plugin to put  (ROOT) in the title of apps running as root.
[07:06] <ObrienDave> Arch_NME... funny things happen.....
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> too bad thats not enabled by default
[07:06] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, okay then, that answers my question I was just wondering if there was some other reason
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> ive seen windows systems broken by a mistaken drag/drop in the system dirs.
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> if i want to run a gui/file manager as root. I dont use nautilus. i use a shell with 'mc' ;)
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> a shell with BRIGHT PINK background colors
[07:07] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, I like to break things
[07:07] <Arch_NME> ;)
[07:07] <ObrienDave> Old Atari's did not have a trashcan. It was more like an Incinerator LMAO
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Os-9 you dragged/dropped the floppy disk icon onto the trash to 'eject' it......
[07:08] <anudas> somethink?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis>  /ignore add Welles_Lemuelson
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> oops. ;)
[07:10] <Arch_NME> Dr_Willis, he spamming you too, lol
[07:10] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: Trying to compile a game, it needs a newer SDL library than in the repo
[07:10] <abl_> hello
[07:10] <cfhowlett> abl_, greetings
[07:11] <abl_> I am seeking help to install Huawei Mobile Modem
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> R0b0t1:  find a ppa with the newer versions, or compile them from source also
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Arch_NME:  not any more. ;)
[07:12] <abl_> How can I do that at the terminal?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> abl_:  this is a 3g/4g cellphone usb dongle modem?
[07:14] <R0b0t1> Dr_Willis: Oh bother
[07:14] <R0b0t1> well, thank you
[07:14] <abl_> Willis, are u there?
[07:18] <ornj> Anyone wanna help w/ forensics on my system crash?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> abl_:  give the channel details..
[07:21] <ornj> was running a live distro ob a laptop, and a webpage caused the system to FREEZE. but I could Ctrl-Alt-F# to another terminal, which was VERY SLOW and showed kswapd0 consistently, tho it didn't say it was using much cpu.
[07:21] <linux_is_my_hero> Mr_Wills: you were correct, I cannot format my HDD from my bios.
[07:23] <ornj> thought I'd wait since sometimes I've had similar issues resolve themselves, but I fell asleep w/ laptop on my bed, and wgen I woke up, screen was black, not just no image, but not illuminated.
[07:23] <ornj> fan is still running, tho, machine is still hot
[07:24] <ornj> Is the CPU still working? is there any way to pull out of this nosedive?
[07:25] <ornj> did sys shut off from overheat? Am I potentially damaging my chip by letting it continue to run + not powering down?
[07:28] <linux_is_my_hero> if anyone can help me with my partition problem, i'd really appreciate it. this is what i have right now. http://imagebin.org/275331
[07:28] <linux_is_my_hero> I'd like to cahnge it to be just two partitions: one for windows, one for ubuntu
[07:28] <milamber> ornj: you were running a live distro? why not just do a hard power down? no one here can tell you if the machine powered down. what is your question?
[07:30] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: what is the problem? the ubuntu installer can automagically partition to install next to windows
[07:30] <ornj> my questions are: why do we think screen shut off tho fan is still running + processor is still warm?
[07:30] <kongthap> hi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????
[07:31] <ornj> am I damaging my CPU having let it continue to run after potentially having overheated?
[07:31] <milamber> ornj: the screen could have shut off due to power management settings and the fan is still running because the laptop temperature is hot. if the fan is running, then it probably didn't shut itself off.
[07:31] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: it seems to be unable to do so. :-( it wants me to manually adjust the swap size, and it wants to root size to be 4gb, when it has more availible. I also am unable to adjust the two free spaces to be one free space.
[07:31] <milamber> ornj: you probably aren't damaging it further if you have taken it off the bed and it is cooling down
[07:32] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: then you may want to look at !gparted
[07:32] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: is there a program that can completely format my hdd to be completely empty so I can start everything over?
[07:32] <milamber> !gparted | linux_is_my_hero
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, a screenshot of the gparted partitioner on the live cd would be better.
[07:33] <ornj> is there any hope that the system will eventually work thru whatever it's stuck on, or did it just run out of RAM and die? no hope of salvaging what I'd saved to the live disc?
[07:33] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: I'll try that
[07:33] <milamber> ornj: if it's an actual livecd you can't save anything to it
[07:33] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: can't i at least do an imagebin of gparted from the livecd?
[07:33] <milamber> ornj: it would all be gone when you restarted anyways
[07:34] <jnhghy> i'm on ubunut 12.04 and using gnome 3 desktop, I'd like to run the benchmark from disk utility, I've started disk utility, selected my hdd but I can't seem to find where the benchmark options are... can anyone help?
[07:34] <ornj> well, no, exactly. but there was stuff I'd "saved" to the live filesystem
[07:34] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: not sure what you are asking
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, top right the gear.
[07:35] <ornj> yes, exactly. which is why I'd like to recover this stuff before I do that.  ;)
[07:35] <milamber> ornj: did you install an ssh server? what version of ubuntu was the livecd of, and have you tried ctrl + alt + f2?
[07:35] <linux_is_my_hero> milamber: can't i load ubuntu from the livecd, then open gparted, and use the printscreen button on my keyboard and paste the screenshot to an imagebin? it's either that, or use my cheesy camera cellphone
[07:35] <milamber> linux_is_my_hero: yes, you should be able to do that
[07:35] <linux_is_my_hero> got it, be back ...
[07:36] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: that offers : 1) Format Disk 2) Create Disk Image 3) Restore Disk Image 4) View SMART Data ... nothing else
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, Live cd?
[07:36] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: nope regular install
[07:36] <ornj> i ctrl alt f5'd, as you'll see above
[07:37] <ornj> ubuntu studio, so if that doesn't come w an ssh server, no.
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, I think benchmark is a unmounted option, I see it in mine but I'm running 14.04
[07:37] <jnhghy> wilee-nilee: ok thanks ...
[07:38] <ornj> oh btw re pwr mgt... screen was set to go blank, but never actually went OFF. this is no light whatsoever, closing + opening lid doesn't help
[07:38] <milamber> ornj: did you ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to gnome?
[07:39] <ornj> a few times, it was still there before I fell asleep
[07:39] <ornj> (actually xfce, not gnome)
[07:40] <ornj> but i think it was on top/F5 when i passed out
[07:41] <milamber> ornj: well xfce has some issues with waking not working in general
[07:41] <daveyg> here's a linux question, when you boot straight to cli, you can press ctrl with maybe shift or alt and then the numbers or maybe the function keys to get a screen full of jargon or a new cli. Whats the point of this? I only use it if ive crashed on boot?
[07:41] <ornj> i mean, on a live distro w/ no swap disk, what happens if you run out of ram?
[07:41] <ornj> oh, oops
[07:42] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, some only use the cli.
[07:42] <ornj> well, as i said, screen powering off wasn't normal m.o.
[07:42] <linux_unix-10> i can't install broadcom sta wireless driver, here's the error given: Sorry, installation of this driver failed.
[07:42] <linux_unix-10> Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[07:43] <daveyg> Only people like you wilee-nilee.
[07:43] <linux_unix-10> what should i do?
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, lol not me.
[07:43] <ornj> have also tried Ctrl-Alt-backspace
[07:43] <kongthap> hi, why i cannot start vsftpd using "sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart", i cannot use "service vsftpd restart" too ????
[07:43] <milamber> ornj: http://superuser.com/questions/536901/what-happens-when-linux-os-out-of-ram-and-no-swap
[07:44] <auronandace> linux_unix-10: have you looked at the log file it told you to?
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> linux_unix-10, Have you seen the broadcom info from the bot?
[07:44] <ornj> thanky sir :)
[07:44] <daveyg> pm sent wilee-nilee
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> daveyg, I have pm blocked
[07:44] <MadTux> can someone tell me what the ubuntu archiving application package name is?
[07:45] <milamber> kongthap: we need more info, specifically - what are you typing into the terminal and what error message(s) are you getting?
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> pm has been tmi generally
[07:45] <ornj> milamber >> like the gb reference
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> hey, I have some input that has to be given to a program on the terminal
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> (the program does a call to gets)
[07:45] <SomeDamnBody> but the problem is, I also need to debug that program
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> I have contrived some input to give it
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> but it's not all printable
[07:46] <kongthap> milamber: "Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[07:46] <kongthap> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[07:46] <kongthap> e.g. stop vsftpd ; start vsftpd. The restart(8) utility is also available"
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> how can I give the program this input
[07:46] <Snake2k> Hey guys, my wifi isn't working, im using a dell inspiron n5520.. Like.. I can't see any networks and there is nothing in "Additional Drivers"
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> ? preferably in an automated way
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> here's the last 5 line from /var/log/jockey.log: 2013-10-31 15:41:42,835 WARNING: /sys/module/wl/drivers does not exist, cannot rebind wl driver
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:42,865 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,288 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <kongthap> milamber: i didn't understand what it said
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,346 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:41:58,389 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod disabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: enabled, b43legacy: enabled
[07:46] <FloodBot1> linux_unix-10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <linux_unix-10> 2013-10-31 15:42:03,293 DEBUG: Shutting down
[07:46] <SomeDamnBody> I would like to be able to pipe in to the clipboard, but apparently xsel and xclip don't work as advertised
[07:47] <milamber> kongthap: it wants you to use the format: sudo service vsftpd <command>
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | linux_unix-10
[07:47] <milamber> kongthap: where the <command> is usually start, stop, or restart
[07:48] <kongthap> milamber: the error i did paste came from "sudo service vsftpd restart"
[07:48] <linux_unix-10> here's the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334424/
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  theres the 'clipboard' then theres the 'x selection buffer'
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> Snake2k, can you find the wifi info by running lspci in the terminal and post it?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  theres tools that can sync the two i recall. :)
[07:49] <kongthap> milamber: oh after rebooting it seems working now... :)
[07:49] <antithesis> Hello
[07:49] <SomeDamnBody> how do I sync them Dr_Willis
[07:50] <makara> what does ![] mean in markdown?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  i recall some tools in the repos. not used it in ages. but if the input is not just text. what s it?  whitespace? binary data?
[07:50] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, binary
[07:50] <ornj> i guess that's my question. I've had JavaScript things lock up the system for quite some time, but recover later. how long should i give this oom killer to do its thing?
[07:50] <SomeDamnBody> I have to debug it while giving it the data on the fly
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:   you might need to use fifo's and pipes then. not the clipboard/selection buffer
[07:51] <kongthap> in common when setting up ftp server, where should be the home directory for anonymous access???
[07:51] <Gery> Hello guy can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?
[07:51] <milamber> ornj: i'd say if you haven't gotten a response now i would just say it's probably time
[07:51] <ornj> and even if it does, how do i see what I'm doing?  ;)
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> does this look like the solution: superuser.com/questions/68170/how-can-i-merge-the-gnome-clipboard-and-the-x-selection
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, fifos and pipes?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  with binary data.  i dont think you can use the clipboard
[07:51] <ornj> to restart?
[07:51] <SomeDamnBody> the clipboard works with binary data on mac
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  linux is not mac.
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, do you mean running the command like: "command" < "file"
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> because the command must be run under a debugger
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  somthing like that
[07:52] <milamber> kongthap: goog-fu yields /var/ftp/
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> meaning that the file input resolution occurs prior to launching gdb
[07:52] <ornj> all unsaved-to-the-cloud stuff go bye-bye?  :(
[07:52] <SomeDamnBody> so gdb --args "command" < "file"
[07:53] <leif_> greetins looking for a good ide for coding c for a newb
[07:53] <gordonjcp> IDEs suck
[07:53] <milamber> leif_: you are going to get a wide variety of opinions
[07:53] <gordonjcp> you've already got gedit
[07:53] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, so that won't work
[07:54] <leif_> milamber, ok
[07:54] <leif_> maybe eclipse
[07:54] <Gery> Hello guys can u help me  ....dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a... display when i am trying to install packeages,how can fix it this problem?
[07:54] <gordonjcp> leif_: if you really want an IDE, KDevelop is pretty good, Eclipse is sort of an industry standard but it's written in Java
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  no idea. you really havent given the channel much details. You might want to be asking this in a programmming channel
[07:54] <milamber> leif_: from ides suck you already have gedit | vi | emacs (which is kind of an ide) to fully integrated as eclipse, code::blocks, and even qt_builder
[07:54] <kongthap> milamber: thanks but what is goog-fu ??? :(
[07:54] <leif_> thanks
[07:54] <SomeDamnBody> what other details are needed?
[07:55] <gordonjcp> Eclipse is great if you have 32GB of RAM and maybe a couple of eight-core processors
[07:55] <milamber> kongthap: google-fu*, i just googled it
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> I need to do gdb --args "program" "binary input that can't be typed"
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> or wait...
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> I need to do gdb --args "program"
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> then after it executes for a bit
[07:55] <SomeDamnBody> give it the binary input
[07:55] <milamber> kongthap: http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/12/02/set-up-an-anonymous-ftp-server-with-vsftpd-in-less-than-a-minute/
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> SomeDamnBody:  so perhaps a fifo is what you need then
[07:56] <SomeDamnBody> fifo?
[07:56] <Gery> how can i fix ..dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/a...  error?
[07:56] <gordonjcp> leif_: do you really really need an IDE?  If you're just starting out, it's unlikely you're going to want to get your head around learning the IDE as well
[07:56] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, ok, so I looked up fifo
[07:56] <gordonjcp> leif_: and gedit has syntax highlighting, and it's already installed
[07:56] <ornj> i guess i also want to know what likely happened - did overheating cause something to fail/shut off?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFO
[07:57] <SomeDamnBody> Idk why you call them that, but I just told you that a fifo will *not work
[07:57] <leif_> gordonjcp, ok gonna try that
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> you dont even realize what a fifo is as far as i understand you...
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> and why wont it work.
[07:57] <kongthap> milamber: can i ask a little more, if i had some huge collection of files at /mnt/blahblah what technique should i use, such as symlink or what???
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, because a fifo is read into the program on the level of bash; it gets resolve so that what the program sees is it on the argument stack (if you do < that is)
[07:58] <kongthap> milamber: i meant, i don't prefer that /mnt/blahblah to be the home directory
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> but the data must be delivered after a prompt is made available
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> that's why would be best if it were in my clipboard
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> so I could just paste it when it's needed
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> and then press enter, its done
[07:58] <Dr_Willis>   SomeDamnBody  so  the app prints  a  'enter your data:' and you are supposed to type IN binary data?
[07:58] <SomeDamnBody> yes
[07:59] <SomeDamnBody> something like that
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> that sounds rather insane.
[07:59] <ObrienDave> sounds dangerous to me LMAO
[07:59] <SomeDamnBody> well I'm sure you would think so
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> and it could read from a fifo that you then spit the data into the fifo from a second program.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> i still wonder how you would type in a 'image.gif' like you were mentioning earlier.
[07:59] <milamber> kongthap: it depends on what you want the anonymous people to be able to do with them. i would not recommend allowing anonymous write access and if you are going to be working on the files you are just going to give yourself a headache if you have people accessing them at the same time. if you have enough space, it might be beneficial to just copy the files over and keep them sync'd w/ rsync. however, every use case is different. so i
[07:59] <SomeDamnBody> I'm doing the example protostar and nebula binary security tutorials and this is what is required
[08:00] <SomeDamnBody> Dr_Willis, well the way I would do it, is cat image.gif | clipboard
[08:00] <SomeDamnBody> then run the program
[08:00] <SomeDamnBody> enter your data: <ctrl+v>
[08:00] <SomeDamnBody> but that won't work
[08:00] <linux_is_my_hero> imagebin.net/275334
[08:00] <SomeDamnBody> because the xsel and xclip doesn't work out right
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> ...
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> so that last bit..
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> you think maybe I could spawn an interactive process
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> and pipe it's output to the second process that wants data
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> ?
[08:01] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, I get a website not available.
[08:01] <SomeDamnBody> I would just use python to print it in...
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> a fifo can print 'into it'
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-named-pipes-fifos-bash
[08:02] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero it's imagebin.ORG
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> command1 reads ffrom a fifo..   command2 spits the data into the fifo   and command1 reads the data as it goes in
[08:03] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: imagebin.org/275334 before i reboot again, gparted sees the windows partition and the two free space partitions and cannot edit the free space partitions. i tried adding another partition that is the same size as the two empty partitions, and it did nothing.
[08:03] <kongthap> milamber: i just want to serve only myself by using notebook to access my ubuntu desktop over ftp, i prefer ftp because the notebook will have to download huge stuff, don't care about the speed but just not to slow down my desktop too much that's all
[08:04] <milamber> !vnc | kongthap
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> simpiler fifo examples ->  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2156
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, So windows still boots, generally that 351MIB is the boot partition? you jsut need to choose the install alongside option.
[08:05] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero probably because the boundry is not on a cylinder. there is a setting for cylinder or megabytes. use cylinder if possible
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, Windows has a no read on it maybe needs a chkdsk
[08:05] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: yes, windows boots without issues
[08:05] <milamber> kongthap: ftp is really an outdated way to do that. trying to keep files synced using ftp is a nightmare. if you are just trying to remotely access your desktop, vnc is a much better option
[08:05] <linux_is_my_hero> obriendave: I don't know what that means, can you tell me a little more?
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, Not sure it will resize on a no read, but you would want to resize windows with its partitioner if needed.
[08:06] <gordonjcp> milamber: vnc and ftp are two totally different things
[08:06] <gordonjcp> kongthap: have you looked at sshfs?
[08:07] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: i already resized windows with its partitioner, then tried to install ubuntu with the alongside option.  Why would ubuntu installer want to make the ubuntu root partition be 4gb instead of the remaining 50GB?
[08:07] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: I can imagebin with my smartphone if that helps
[08:07] <milamber> gordonjcp: yes, it is. but if you look at the goal of "using notebook to access my ubuntu desktop" vnc makes more sense, which is why i am asking what he is actually trying to accomplish
[08:07] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero disks are defined by heads, cylinders, tracks and sectors.
[08:08] <milamber> or she*
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> ObrienDave:  even ssd's ;)
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, It would install a main partition and a swap, thats all you need really.
[08:08] <linux_is_my_hero> obriendave: is a cylinder just a platter in the hard drive?
[08:09] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: with the ubuntu installer partitioner, i can adjust the swap size, but not the root size. why?
[08:09] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero well, they are not physically made that way, it's mostly for backwards compatibility LOL
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> linux_is_my_hero:  it used to work that way. but these days - the drive controller might reinteperte the actual physical numers for the os to handle.
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> linux_is_my_hero:  like in the case of a SSD drive.
[08:10] <linux_is_my_hero> Dr_Willis: so the OS sticks with predetermined standards and therefore does less work?
[08:10] <kongthap> gordonjcp: i will try to google it :)
[08:10] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero LBA is sort of a disk defining emulator. to put it into very simple terms
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, One of the limitations here is only 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries anda extended with logicals, did you try and have more than 4 primaries or run all in one fell swoop from gparted.
[08:11] <linux_is_my_hero> ObrienDave: is there a free partitioning program that I can download and put on a cd or dvd so that I can properly partition everything?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> linux_is_my_hero, gparted is on the livecd
[08:12] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: I think theres only 4 partitions: windows boot, windows, linux swap, linux
[08:12] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero we all recommend gparted
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, You don't have a windows boot nor need one leave that 351mib area alone it is to small, put an extended in the unallocated, and fill it with logicals ans a swap.
[08:13] <kongthap> gordonjcp: if we're not talking about "secure things" is the operations are different between copying the files  over sshfs and normal netowork sharing???
[08:13] <jony_easyrider> which is the keyboard shortcut for copy and paste in terminal? (CTRL+C or +V not working)
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> and*
[08:13] <linux_is_my_hero> cfhowlett: imagebin.org/275334 gparted won't let me adjust the empty spaces, and ubuntu installer doesn't wanna use the full 59.33 gb to install swap and the ubuntu
[08:13] <milamber> jony_easyrider: try middle bouse button??
[08:14] <linux_is_my_hero> wilee-nilee: tell me a little more, this is my first dual-boot machine
[08:14] <milamber> mouse*
[08:14] <kongthap> milamber: i will google for vnc too, thanks
[08:14] <ObrienDave> jony_easyrider SHIFT-CTRL C and V
[08:14] <milamber> kongthap: the solution really depends on what you are ultimately trying to accomplish
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, what do you not undertand? have you used gparted before?
[08:14] <linux_is_my_hero> I have not used gparted before :-(
[08:14] <jony_easyrider> milamber, ty
[08:14] <jony_easyrider> ObrienDave, ty
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, Really you do not have to make partitions the installer will do it if you just choose install alongside.
[08:15] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero gparted is the way to go for a GUI
[08:16] <linux_is_my_hero> Obriendave: i don't know what an "extended" is, nor a "logical"
[08:16] <kongthap> milamber: nothing special i want to copy huge music files to my portable player, only my notebook has card reader, but the music files are update and always will at PC, so i'm looking for the way to use my notebook to get files from the PC and transfer it to the microSD...
[08:17] <linux_is_my_hero> obriendave:  if you can explain what these things are I'm sure I can figure out how to make it work :-)
[08:17] <milamber> kongthap: are they on the same network?
[08:17] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero think of a hard drive as a whole pie.......
[08:17] <kongthap> milamber: nothing over the internet just inside my home network via switch hub and access point
[08:18] <cfhowlett> linux_is_my_hero, you've got your 59 .3 gigs available.  install there and let the system allocate the partitions.  you'll be fine
[08:18] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero the "pie" can be split into only 4 "logical" pieces......
[08:18] <milamber> kongthap: then you should be able to right click on your music folder and then share it with whatever options you want. after that you can access it via the netbook and then you don't have to mess around with having multiple copies of things all over
[08:19] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero each piecs can be split into many "extended" pieces
[08:19] <ObrienDave> *piece
[08:19] <kongthap> milamber: during the copying process, the PC will get slowing down??? just asking
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> that's a really confusing description, and relates in no way to partitions
[08:20] <ObrienDave> tried to make it simple. oh well
[08:20] <linux_is_my_hero> obriendave: so I add a logical partition equal to the 59GB, then split it into a swap (equal to the amount of system RAM) and a root?
[08:20] <milamber> kongthap: possibly, but not for long. if you want to keep the notebook and the desktop synced up, you should look at rsync.
[08:20] <linux_is_my_hero> obriendave: this definately helps :-)
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, I would do a auto install and practice on a flash drive.
[08:21] <kongthap> milamber: ok i will look for both sharing and rsync
[08:21] <kongthap> milamber: lastly when setting sharing on PC, how can i find the shared folder, just using network browsing???
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> linux_is_my_hero, You will understand, however while dual booting with an OS you want to keep I would not mess aaround is all.
[08:22] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero basically, yes
[08:22] <milamber> kongthap: if you set up the shared folder to be accessible then that should be it
[08:22] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero and I agree with wilee-nilee
[08:23] <djangonoob> I had problems with the nvidia 319 update on ubuntu 12.04. now it is working again but I cant start the "nvidia x server settings"
[08:23] <djangonoob> and there are 2 icons in the starter. both are not working
[08:24] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero if you're not comfortable with this, practice on a USB stick. can't bugger up your OS that way
[08:26] <linux_unix-10> can some one help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334542/ | I was trying to install a broadcom driver for my laptop, then a segfault happened. Took me a while to get back to Xsince I tried many key combos. Dunno what I pressed but I was able to return to X. Someone please help
[08:26] <linux_unix-10> * X since
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> djangonoob:  try running it from the terminal? 'nvidia-settings'
[08:27] <husnainlatif> I need help installing a package, it doesn't have any extension but it was under "Download for linux" link :S Confused.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> husnainlatif:  and whats the file name edxactly and where did it come from?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> husnainlatif:  ive rarely seen a maker provide packages for ubuntu that work, or even are correct for ubuntu
[08:28] <linux_unix-10> This isn't the first time that it happened. This has happened in every Ubuntu release and distro that has run on my machine since 10.04
[08:28] <husnainlatif> It came from revolutionary.io and it's simply called 'revolutionary' with no extension
[08:28] <husnainlatif> I'm trying to root my android phone and having a hard time doing so
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> husnainlatif, #android-root
[08:29] <djangonoob> Dr_Willis: could not be found. if I want to install 'nvidia-settings'  it want to install the 304-version. nvidia-settings-319 is already installed
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> husnainlatif:  'file filename'  will give a small clue as to what it is.
[08:29] <husnainlatif> I'm already thre wilee
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> !find nvidia-settings
[08:29] <husnainlatif> and wow, I know you wilee-nilee  o.O
[08:29] <husnainlatif> I've read several forums posts by wilee
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> I have been on that channel at times
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> hmm dont even see a 319 in the repos
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> ah the UF
[08:30] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero looking at your screenshot again, sda is your FIRST physical partition. sda1 is the FIRST logical partition. any sdax would be more logical partitions under sda
[08:31] <ObrienDave> linux_is_my_hero OOPS looking at your screenshot again, sda is your FIRST LOGICAL partition. sda1 is the FIRST EXTENDED partition. any sdax would be more EXTENDED partitions under sda
[08:31] <husnainlatif> One of your posts have actually helped me a lot recently wilee-nilee :) Thanks
[08:32] <husnainlatif> Dr_Willis,  revolutionary: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> !yay | husnainlatif
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> husnainlatif:  so its a binary you run.. hope you got a 32bit system instgalled not  64.. but it still might run on 64
[08:32] <husnainlatif> how do I know if I have it installed :S
[08:33] <husnainlatif> I'm sorry but I'm a newbie
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> husnainlatif:   make that thing executable. and run it.. and hope it works.. but i would be suprised if it did.
[08:33] <husnainlatif> Please dumb that down for me.
[08:33] <wilee-nilee> ObrienDave, They are gone and it's just one primary.
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> logicals are inside an extended
[08:34] <ObrienDave> yep, that's right. long night ;)
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> hehe it happens
[08:34] <ObrienDave> *more coffee*
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> I need a caffeine drip
[08:35] <xgeek-cub> how to make vi the default editor for visudo?
[08:36] <aeon-ltd> xgeek-cub: it is
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:   i think theres a system variable you can set.
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> xgeek-cub:  check  man visudo
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> VISUAL           Invoked by visudo as the editor to use
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> export VISUAL=vi
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> i think.
[08:38] <esmic> hey
[08:38] <xgeek-cub> aeon-ltd: what is the difference between vim.basic and vim.tiny?
[08:39] <linux_unix-10> can someone please help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334542/ | I was trying to install bcmwl-kernel-source for my system when my screen suddenly showed fullscreen command line info and stuff. Took me a while before I could return to X. Please help. :(
[08:39] <aeon-ltd> i don't think i've ever chosen them, unless vim by default is basic
[08:40] <linux_unix-10> I really need a solution. This has happened on every Ubuntu release and distro that my system has run since 10.04.
[08:41] <sgo11> hi, can I use ufw redirect all traffic from port 80 to port 3128? I see there are examples on how to do this in iptable online. thanks.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  showed 'full screen command line' = You mean the alt-ctrl-f1 through F6 Consoles?
[08:41] <otak> vim.basic has more features like syntax highlighting, when you install it changes symlinks like sudo update-alternatives
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  and you get bac to X with alt-ctrl-f7 (or restarting X)
[08:42] <pogiako> hello
[08:42] <linux_unix-10> YES!
[08:42] <pogiako> how do i make chrome to adjust its size depending on how i want my window to be big?
[08:42] <pogiako> like on windows?
[08:42] <linux_unix-10> hmm, so that's how you go back to X...
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  X runs on tty7 by default - normally
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> pogiako, same way from the edge or the buttons top panel.
[08:43] <pogiako> when i resize it, i have to release my mouse before i even get to see the result whereas in windows as you resize it it shows you already the result
[08:43] <pogiako> u know how u resize windows in Windows?
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> pogiako, Ubuntu does not have the empty resize
[08:43] <linux_unix-10> Dr_Willis: how can this problem be solved?
[08:43] <pogiako> u can see change as ur resize it
[08:44] <pogiako> thats what i want so i no longer need to unclick the mouse just to see what my window looks like
[08:44] <pogiako> instead of showing me this orange background, i want it to be like Windows'
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  i would suggest checking askubuntu.com on how to install the drivers for your chipset.  and the ubuntu forums.wiki page. I dont see how installing a 'source' package would cause X to crash at all. or how any wireless drivers would affect X at all.
[08:45] <phyphor> pogiako: http://askubuntu.com/questions/291386/how-do-i-enable-live-window-resizing-in-ubuntu-13-04
[08:45] <phyphor> I believe it's the same in 13.10
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  what ubuntu release are you currently useing?
[08:45] <pogiako> is compiz stable?
[08:46] <pogiako> i've had problems with it and is the reason why i had to reinstall ubuntu for a couple of times lol
[08:46] <ObrienDave> pogiako I have no problems updating windows on the fly. but, I run Xubuntu ;)
[08:46] <pogiako> btw, how is 13.10 guys?
[08:46] <pogiako> am still on 03
[08:46] <pogiako> 04*
[08:46] <pogiako> last time i installed .10, it had bugs in it
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> pogiako, You must free yourself from the binds of the windows OS in ubuntu grasshopper.
[08:47] <pogiako> haha
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> pogiako:  all software has bugs in it.
[08:47] <ObrienDave> LOL grasshopper
[08:47] <pogiako> no i mean
[08:47] <pogiako> i just want that resizing stuff
[08:47] <phyphor> pogiako: you've been given two ways to get it
[08:48] <cfhowlett> pogiako, read more ...
[08:48] <pogiako> especially that i'm mkaing site
[08:48] <pogiako> making*
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> pogiako:  i would think thats a feature of the window manager more then anything else..  i  cant really recall seeing it ever used.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> xfce seems to do it that way.
[08:48] <phyphor> Dr_Willis: it's different in Xubuntu, and it can ebe changed using Compiz, both of which have been suggested
[08:49] <pogiako> coz i find it annoying to unclick it before i get to see changes i make on the site am doing
[08:49] <donkarlo> hello
[08:49] <ObrienDave> love my Xubuntu ;)
[08:49] <pogiako> how is Xubuntu btw?
[08:49] <ObrienDave> LOVE IT!
[08:49] <pogiako> heard its awesome, from Spatry if anyone here knows him, lol probably
[08:50] <donkarlo> this is killing, I cant see my ubuntu desctop, when starting the computer it says Disconnected from plymouth
[08:50] <ObrienDave> 'nuff said
[08:50] <pogiako> what does xubuntu have?
[08:50] <pogiako> compare ubuntu from xubuntu ;)
[08:50] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment. That's all
[08:51] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, well, and a different set to default apps
[08:51] <ObrienDave> ok, ok, small details
[08:51] <angs> on what case, a wifi interface is named "rename4"?  normally they are named wlan0, wlan1, ...
[08:52] <donkarlo> someone answer me please
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|donkarlo,
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | donkarlo
[08:52] <ObrienDave> I run kde and gnome services on startup. I can run anything you can PFFFFFT ;)
[08:53] <freddddiiii> I am having an extremely annoying issue. Every boot my keyboard will not work until three minutes have passed, when asked to enter passphrase at encryption unlock. This has not always been the case and I do not know what is causing it. I tried to find logs but could not find the appropriate log file to diagnose.
[08:53] <pogiako> also
[08:53] <pogiako> i can see that ubuntu has  small wifi range
[08:53] <pogiako> comparing it to fedora
[08:53] <pogiako> thats a downside to it
[08:54] <pogiako> all in all, its cool ;)
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> if the kernels are the same.. the drivers should be the same.. i dont see why the range would differ
[08:54] <pogiako> only the wifi range upsets me
[08:54] <pogiako> it does differ
[08:54] <ObrienDave> pogiako WIFI range has NOTHING to do with the OS you're running LMAO
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> unless theres some wonky power saveer mode kicking in.
[08:54] <pogiako> when i use fedora, i get a longer range
[08:54] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I dont understand. What do u think I should do to have my desktop back and create some backups?
[08:54] <pogiako> haha
[08:54] <pogiako> thats the case with me lol
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  you could boot to text mode to get to files. and try to fix things cvia the command line
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> !text | donkarlo
[08:55] <pogiako> whenever i use fedora, or mint i get a longer range of wifi
[08:55] <ObrienDave> ok fine, whatEVER
[08:55] <cfhowlett> pogiako, no need to repeat, we saw it the first time
[08:55]  * Dr_Willis has his doubts also on that.
[08:55] <donkarlo> I hate Ubuntu
[08:55] <pogiako> ;)
[08:55] <cfhowlett> donkarlo, feel free to not use it.
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  demand a refund?
[08:56] <ObrienDave> LOL foss software
[08:56] <pogiako> where can i get themes for my ubuntu?
[08:56] <donkarlo> U are using then it goes black and you dont have any Idea what to do
[08:56] <pogiako> donkarlo: haha happened to me lol
[08:57] <pogiako> so annoying
[08:57] <pogiako> what happened anyway?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  we suggested trying the NOMODESET option. which often fixs the black screen issue. Or using TEXT mode to try to trouble shoot things.. theres no magic 'do this' command
[08:57] <donkarlo> It was working slow I tried to change  NVidia driver, I restarted and now it says disconnected from plymouth
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> sounds lik eyour video drivers are broken, use text mode, try to fix them.
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> or try nomodeset to see if you get a working desktopo
[08:58] <weasel> at.archive.ubuntu.com is broken for me.
[08:58] <ObrienDave> Dr_Willis "no magic 'do this' command"??? be still my heart
[08:58] <jnhghy> what is the ubuntu non ubuntu channel?
[08:58] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I hope you could understand that I have no idea what you are saying.
[08:58] <weasel> will that be fixed automatically, and/or is there a way to report this?
[08:59] <jnhghy> I mean where  i can relax about other things...:)
[08:59] <husnainlatif> Dr_Willis, Thanks a lot, installing 32-bit libraries worked.
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> jnhghy, ##linux
[08:59] <ObrienDave> jnhghy or #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:59] <jnhghy> thanks
[08:59] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: What is NOMODESET ? how can I run it ?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|donkarlo,
[09:00] <ObrienDave> *face palms and walks away*
[09:00] <linux_unix-10> Dr_Willis: sorry, i was away for a while. Anyway, I'm using elementary os luna, based off Ubuntu 12.04
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | donkarlo  for the 2nd time now..
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  they have their own support channels.
[09:01] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I dont understand anything. I dont know what grub is and how edit it
[09:02] <donkarlo> i think people are sick here
[09:02] <Guest23822> hi, for ufw, I have put http://paste.ubuntu.com/6334657/ to before.rules, and then stop ufw and start ufw. it does not work. I can still access websites 80 ports directly in chrome browser. can anyone help? thanks.
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:   time to learn and read the urls given they include screenshots,, or use a live cd. backup your data and reinstall i guess.
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> trying the text or nomodeset option is rather quickly done.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !attitude|donkarlo,
[09:03] <linux_unix-10> those were what i call "unhelpful help" since nobody's responding, i only see connect/disconnect status indicators, nothing else
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  we cant really support unoffiical ubuntu variants.
[09:03]  * cfhowlett shakes head sadly, reaches for the eject handle ...
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> linux_unix-10:  the ubuntu wikis and askubuntu.com info may still apply . but may need some interperation for the differances in the os's
[09:04] <linux_unix-10> well since it's still based on ubuntu and i know there are no drastic differences, the instruction are the same
[09:05] <Guest23822> hi, which channel is the best place to ask ufw related questions? thanks.
[09:05] <linux_unix-10> only intructions that require unity do not work
[09:05] <linux_unix-10> :|
[09:05] <cfhowlett> linux_unix-10, except that we don't support unofficial distros.  AND if your distro doesn't supply help ... why are you using it?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Guest23822, ask here for now ...
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> elemtary os is nice looking but is a bit of a letdown in many ways.
[09:06] <aeon-ltd> Guest23822: #netfilter has iptables(the backend of ufw) related chat
[09:06] <Guest23822> aeon-ltd, thanks a lot. I will ask there.
[09:07] <linux_unix-10> only Ubuntu distro so far after 10.04 to have a working, persistent, live usb environment
[09:07] <linux_unix-10> compared to even "light" distros, it doesn't lag that much
[09:08] <linux_unix-10> i've tried a lot, believe me
[09:09] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: Is there a file I shoud edit to enable nomodeset ?
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|donkarlo, please read: full how to enclosed.
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  at the grub boot menu. like the guide shows.. you hit 'e' to edit the options
[09:12] <cyclist_2> hello, there! my problem began this week and it has ocurred twice -- a few minutes ago being the second time; suddenly, but slowly, the graphics on my monitor begin to de-pixelate [if that is the right word...], turning impossible to read or see the images properly; it is progressive, i.e., it does not reach a peak before a certain time; I tried restarting the GDM  [graphic desktop manager], but that does not solve the problem; only by rest
[09:12] <donkarlo> where is the grub boot menu
[09:12] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, could your monitor/graphics card be failing?
[09:12] <phyphor> So lettin Rhythmbox pick up a year's worth of music has caused my machine to hang. oops
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> if you dont see the grub menu by default when you boot up. press and hold the SHIFT key when you boot up to make it show
[09:13] <hornypsycho> lol
[09:14] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: alas, I do not know anything about that subject; what do you mean? is it a common problem? if so, how frequent?
[09:15] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I think I found what you meant and I pressed e, what should I do now?
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  err..you did read the guide posted above.. it tells you exactly what to edit..
[09:15] <Dr_Willis>  'quiet splash'   becomes 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[09:15] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I dont really understand it. if you can help me
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> then you boot the modified entry
[09:15] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: about the monitor: I use 2, one is of the laptop and the second is an older one connected to the laptop; but both are affected, so I don't think it is hardware related...
[09:15] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, you didn't describe your hardware, so hazarding a guess based on the behavior your described ... graphics cards handle the picture/images.  they do fail.  monitors get banged around and fail as well.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  the url even shows a screeshot of what the edited line looks like..
[09:16] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, little details do matter.  could be OS related but I've not encountered it before.  restate your query here from time to time.  Someone else may know.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> and press END keys to position your cursor at the end of the that line usually ending with “quiet splash”.
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> Now you can type in additional kernel options like nomodeset (
[09:17] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: is there a test I can perform to find if the graphics card is failing?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, flgrx or similar I think
[09:18] <cfhowlett> fglrx
[09:18] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I think the pictures are filtered in my country wait ...
[09:19]  * Dr_Willis w8's
[09:19]  * Dr_Willis wonders if youtube has videos of nomodeset...
[09:20] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: Ok I can see shots now. his grub iis not like mine
[09:20] <donkarlo> I dont see splash anywhere
[09:21] <Dr_Willis> the line that begins with  'linux .......' is the critical line
[09:22] <karab44> hello
[09:22] <karab44> is there Mir on 13.10??
[09:22] <cfhowlett> karab44, nope
[09:22] <karab44> how can I switch to that?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !mir
[09:23] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: thank you
[09:23] <karab44> it was told that there will be choice in 13.10 and next releases would have it by default
[09:23] <karab44> oh
[09:23] <RevJoe> How do i install Java?  I downloaded it on my other pc and extracted it  dont know what to do next
[09:24] <cfhowlett> !java|RevJoe,
[09:24] <karab44> I have xorg 100% cpu utilization when moving a mouse so I thought Mir could help me
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  sounds like a x driver bug. or you are useing the vesa driver.
[09:25] <karab44> Nvidia propiretary
[09:25] <karab44> yes it could be a bug, I did distro upgrade from 13.04
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> karab44:  run nvidia-settings and see if it confirms the driver is in use
[09:26] <karab44> I am just wondering is this visible on fresh install but I have too many things on my system to do format
[09:26] <donkarlo> Dr_Willis: I did what it said and after pressing ctrl+x it is just blinking
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> to many things - bah.
[09:26] <kn0thing> Hey guys, I just finished an install of 13.10 on a raid 1 array but the system is failing to boot. I'm getting dropped to the grub rescue screen with an error 'disk mduuid/[somehex]' not found. I can find my partitions (ie. hd0,msdos1) but I get the error "invalid filename `'" when i try and ls (hd0,msdos1). Any thoughts as to how to fix?
[09:27] <Guest23822> hi, I execute "sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 3128". does not work. I can still access websites directly in chrome browser. my 3128 port is squid proxy which deny all outgoing access. thanks.
[09:27] <karab44> Dr_Willis: right
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> donkarlo:  you could also try the 'text' mode option to get to a console. same as you did befor only use 'noquiet nosplash text nofb nomodeset ' instead of just  nomodeset
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> bbl.. got a job to do.
[09:32] <vxl_> ing ubuntu 12.04, I installed squid in it I want to configure that could anyone help me in that
[09:33] <cfhowlett> !squid
[09:38] <ReCXy> hi
[09:38] <karab44> can I just simply downgrade xorg? from 13.10 to 13.04?
[09:39] <meet> when will the next intel graphics installer be released supporting  13.10?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> !intel
[09:41] <vxl_> ing ubuntu 12.04, I installed squid in it I want to configure that could anyone help me in that
[09:42] <meet> cfhowlett, that did not return anyting .. ?
[09:42] <ctrlbyte> vxl_: What do you need help with?
[09:42] <RevJoe> Anyone here do BTC Mining with this ?
[09:42] <vxl_> I got struck in configuring squid3 in ubuntu
[09:43] <vxl_> ctrlbyte,
[09:43] <ctrlbyte> vxl_: what part of the config did you get stuck at?
[09:44] <RevJoe> Whats the command to make it showing who is entering and exiting?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> meet  nothing.  sorry.
[09:45] <cfhowlett> RevJoe, depends on your chat client.  I can tell you about xchat ...
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> RevJoe, You want to bless them going both ways? ;)
[09:46] <vxl_> I allowed  "http_access allow localnet" in squid but still im unable to access  it by configuring the ip in firefox
[09:46] <vxl_> ctrlbyte,
[09:46] <ctrlbyte> give me a second vxl_
[09:46] <vxl_> sure
[09:48] <ctrlbyte> vxl_: did you restart squid? sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart after you made the config changes?
[09:48] <vxl_> ctrlbyte, ya I did that
[09:49] <ctrlbyte> vxl_: can you paste your config?
[09:49] <vxl_> ya sure
[09:50] <vxl_> http://pastebin.com/2NJ6z8Hs
[09:51] <vxl_> you can check the  config in above link
[09:51] <vxl_> ctrlbyte,
[09:51] <vxl_> ctrlbyte, http://pastebin.com/2NJ6z8Hs
[09:52] <RevJoe> !xchat
[09:55] <milamber> !squid | vxl_
[09:55] <milamber> vxl_: your config doesn't look right. you allow localnet, but i don't think you set localnet properly higher up
[09:56] <karab44> I found out that using my logitech G5 causes xorg to use 100%cpu but when I use bluetooth mouse it acts normally. How is that?
[09:56] <karab44> Any hints to fix that?
[09:58] <vxl_> milamber, let me follow the steps which you have provided and then
[10:00] <RevJoe_> Howdy
[10:00] <karab44> Hey Joe
[10:01] <RevJoe_> Just getting this laptop setup and this feels like using a mac all over
[10:02] <nils-> is that a good thing or a bad thing?
[10:03] <RevJoe_> i hate apples lol
[10:03] <RevJoe_> but this software is better for what i need it to do though
[10:03] <RevJoe_> than a windows based
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: why, because the non-running and running apps are in a dock?
[10:08] <nils-> never been a fan of unity personally, haven't tried it in a while though
[10:08] <RevJoe_> i need to beable to use bitminter for myself and backtrack for work.
[10:09] <etfb> Is there anyone lurking who can help me get Unity working properly on my laptop? I tried upgrading my Nvidia drivers and now I have the usual login screen but then I just get a black screen with a mouse cursor when I log in.
[10:09] <oO0Oo> when i run  /bin/sh -c 'recode  windows-1256 "'\''/home/ariyan/a.srt'\''"' it says file not found but file is there and running the command in a terminal window works; Why?
[10:10] <etfb> Wait, no... now I have the desktop and no dash or top menu bar.
[10:10] <etfb> It's an improvement at least...
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: backtrack support is in #backtrack-linux
[10:11] <themhz> hp scanjet 200 how to install on ubuntu 12.04?
[10:13] <themhz> scanner*
[10:14] <excognac> ikonia: hi, did you find anyting useful?
[10:14] <ikonia> excognac: a few things, mostly around the intel modules in xorg and their versioning, although nothing to explain why you're display is so messed up with vesa
[10:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:20] <e11bits> j
[10:20] <OnkelTem> Hi. I have a set of images from which I need to create PDF and then comment images and send to my partner who may use Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is there a tool for Ubuntu for doing this?
[10:20] <excognac> ikonia: if it helps,i run on this acer-aspire5570 laptop kubuntu12.04 kde ppa, and it also had trouble with the samsung display. Also,  when i could use gui on the problematic one, it was because of lightdm. however all effects were trouble, it sicked to Xrender and there was no way to cange it OpenGL
[10:20] <excognac> ikonia: *sticked
[10:21] <cfhowlett> OnkelTem, libreoffice will export .pdf
[10:22] <SPEEDWAVE> how to flashdns in ubuntu 12.04
[10:23] <e11bits> since 13.10. the initialization of my usb camera takes about 10 to 15 seconds. On 13.04 this wasn't noticeable  (or at least did take only a few seconds). This happens when lightdm presents the login screen AND during login. When I remove the camera the delay is gone. What bit is responsible for the delay, so that I can file a bug report? (Or how can I find out?)
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> e11bits: I suggest you report a bug
[10:25] <e11bits> ActionParsnip: Yes, but I'm not sure which package to choose for the bug report
[10:26] <timstermatic> Hi all. I've just upgraded to 13.10 and all of my Apache2 mod rewrites have stopped working. Has anyone else had similar issues.
[10:26] <timstermatic> I've tried a2enmod and it's already loaded
[10:27] <michael__> \join #diku13
[10:28] <Ny0> hi to all. I would like to setup ubuntu as an AP Repeater. does anyone knows how to do that?
[10:28] <excognac> ikonia: do you advice me to try to install 13.10 then? Don't get me wrong, i'm not inpatient butmy colleagues are not super happy that we bought a fancy new machine and  it hasn't been setup yet.
[10:28] <ikonia> excognac: what maybe interesting (something I was going to ask about) was if you could install 13.10 and dump the xorg config
[10:29] <excognac> ikonia: you mean i install it and paste you it's xorg.config?
[10:30] <excognac> *ts
[10:33] <MrQuist> We should create a new e-mail protocol. One that is secure, where signatures are linked to adresses, where everything is automatically encrypted, where no double information is sent, and where we will get rid of "RE:" or "FW:" emails. Look at it as "Conversations". Open up a "Conversation" with users, and all messages will be stored in there. Kind of like a forum, but for business use, webservers, and, ofcourse, all open-sourced. Who's with me?
[10:33] <MrQuist> get rid of SMTP / EMAIL!
[10:33] <nils-> MrQuist: write up an RFC
[10:33] <MrQuist> most of all pop
[10:33] <MrQuist> I suck at writing RFC'
[10:33] <MrQuist> s
[10:33] <nils-> people still use POP?
[10:33] <MrQuist> yes.
[10:33] <MrQuist> You'd be scared if you heard the amount of internet users using POP3.
[10:34] <MrQuist> with Outlook Express
[10:34] <columb> Why every ubuntu update is so painful? After recent 13.10 update my unity is missing and I already tried to reinstall compiz and ubuntu desktop. Any other ideas?
[10:34] <MrQuist> columb, its like upgrading from win 3.1 -> 95 -> 98 -> 2000 -> xp -> 7 -> 8
[10:35] <MrQuist> there usually is crap happening. Clean install is always better
[10:35] <RevJoe_> So having ubuntu installed how doi update my graphics drivers since the toshiba website doesnt have linux drivers
[10:35] <columb> At least XP haven't bugged me to update it after Vista release.
[10:35] <MrQuist> RevJoe_, you're lost
[10:36] <MrQuist> there probably are no drivers
[10:36] <MrQuist> and if there are,  they are general buggy drivers that you
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> columb: if you make a fresh Ubuntu user to test, log in as the new user, is it ok?
[10:36] <MrQuist> will have to compile yourself
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: what video chip?
[10:36] <RevJoe_> Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:36] <MrQuist> is that a GPU..?
[10:36] <columb> ActionParsnip, how do I switch to "Guest" account? It's enabled.
[10:37] <Swarnava> hi i bought a dell laptop which came preinstalled with ubuntu, i installed windows 8 in separate partion but after installing the windows 8, icant log in to my ubuntu anyymore
[10:37] <Swarnava> can anyone help me?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> MrAlexandro: Intel drivers are part of the default install and Intel love supporting Linux
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Swarnava, yep
[10:37] <MrQuist> Swarnava, you should do it the other way around..
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> columb: make a new user
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Swarnava, now you'll have to reinstall grub
[10:37] <Ny0> I would like to setup ubuntu as an AP Repeater. does anyone knows how to do that?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: Intel drivers are part of the default install and Intel love supporting Linux
[10:37] <MrQuist> Swarnava, ubuntu creates a dualboot for windows / ubuntu. Windows isn't that kind, and throws away the ubuntu bootloader and won't let you load it.
[10:37] <cfhowlett> Swarnava why?  cuz windows overwrote your boot loader
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !grub
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: yes, SandyBridge CPUs have an inbuilt INtel GPU
[10:38] <MrQuist> Wow, didn't know that. Im an AMD user
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: so how is RevJoe_ 'lost'?
[10:38] <MrQuist> Since 80% of the GPU's arent (properly) supported by ubuntu
[10:38] <MrQuist> or the other way around
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> MrQuist: most GPUs are supported, your installcomes with a tonne of video drivers installed by default
[10:39] <MonkeyDu1t> Swarnava  first install windows, then ubuntu, as windows ruins grub and you must repair it
[10:39] <RevJoe_> p755-s5380 is what i am using
[10:39] <MrQuist> MonkeyDu1t, thats not gonna help him. Swarnava you should install GRUB
[10:39] <Guest23822> any squid users here? I am getting crazy with one issue. I have spent a whole day. no luck. squid channel is in sleep mode. THANKS.
[10:39] <MrQuist> GRUB can let you boot windows or ubuntu
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:39] <Swarnava> MrQuist: okay thanks all
[10:39] <Swarnava> i am checking those documentation
[10:40] <Swarnava> thanks for help :)
[10:40] <Swarnava> much apricate
[10:40] <RevJoe_> no idea what you are asking action
[10:40] <Swarnava> appriciate*
[10:40] <MrQuist> :)
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Guest23822, also check in the #ubuntu-server channel
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: copy the command and press CTRL+ALT+T   paste the comamand there and press ENTER
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: what is output?
[10:40] <Guest23822> cfhowlett, thanks. I did that. ubuntu-server seems in sleep mode too.
[10:40] <Guest23822> nobody says a single word.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> Guest23822, all those sysadmins must be asleep under the server
[10:41] <RevJoe_> i am using 13.10
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: what does the command output please
[10:42] <RevJoe_> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: thats' all I asked for....when someone asks 'what is the output' they want the actual output, not an interpretation
[10:43] <RevJoe_> i know i amdumber than shit on this
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: its following instructions..in English
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: ok, so when you log in, what is the graphical issue you are having?
[10:45] <RevJoe_> i just installed this tonight while im here at work i have no idea the lingo for linux
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: again, reread, what I am asking is what you see with your eyes, nothing technical.
[10:47] <excognac> ikonia: installing now 13.10 Kubuntu(sic!), pasting you the /etc/X11/xorg.conf asap ok?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> RevJoe_: why do you always haveto say "im not good with Linux" despite what I am asking you to describe is what you see onscreen, as long as you have some sort of vision, you are technical enough
[10:47] <excognac> lol
[10:49] <sam113101> are the socket files on ubuntu only for unix sockets or are they also used for other kinds of sockets?
[10:49] <donkarlo> hello my ubuntu machine doesn't boot. I mean after the choosing the operating system, it shows me mohammad-desktop login: _
[10:49] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip. you scared him off with your technical response :)
[10:49] <donkarlo> what should I do ?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: looks like it
[10:50] <excognac> was epic still
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: "I cant say what's happening onscreen as I am not 100% fluent with my OS"...weirdest attitude
[10:50] <BluesKaj> linux lingo , heh
[10:51] <BluesKaj> defeated before even trying
[10:51] <dannymichel> i use "back in Time' to basically backup my whole '/' root folder and whole '/home' folder. i want to be able to have my  install the exact same way it was in case anything goes down, but i remember someone saying that wasnt enough
[10:51] <dannymichel> someone said i need to make a script to backup the names of my packages or something?
[10:51] <donkarlo> hello my ubuntu machine doesn't boot. I mean after the choosing the operating system, it shows me mohammad-desktop login: _
[10:51] <sam113101> donkarlo: enter your login
[10:51] <dannymichel> so the apps that i had installed will restore as well?
[10:52] <donkarlo> sam113101: I did, so what should I do now?
[10:52] <excognac> in 13.10 kubuntu fresh install if separate / and /home and swap all should be primary partitions, right?
[10:52] <sam113101> donkarlo: did you also enter your password?
[10:52] <donkarlo> yes
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> excognac: doesnt make any difference at all
[10:53] <llutz> dannymichel: "dpkg --get-selections >mypackages.list"
[10:53] <donkarlo> sam113101: I can login as root too, but where  is desktop, it happens all in a huge black screen
[10:54] <sam113101> donkarlo: type "startx"
[10:54] <dannymichel> llutz: is that a way to automate some list of applications i have installed periodically?
[10:54] <excognac> ActionParsnip: swap area should be set Location for new partiton> end?
[10:54] <donkarlo> sudo startx ?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> excognac: it doesnt matter, as long as it exists
[10:54] <sam113101> not sudo
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> donkarlo: no, that will runXOr as root which is far from smart
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> dannymichel  this is another way to do it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335092/
[10:55] <bignonoatbuntu5> how can i update the package manager ? sudo apt-get no go
[10:55] <llutz> dannymichel: make a cronjob of it, "@daily dpkg --get-selections >$(date +'%Y%m%d'-packages.list)
[10:55] <bignonoatbuntu5> using ubuntu 5
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> bignonoatbuntu5: how do you mean by "update the package manager" ?
[10:56] <donkarlo> sam113101: I ran startx and it gives me bunch of out put finishing with xinit: server error
[10:56] <bignonoatbuntu5> old buntu
[10:56] <cfhowlett> bignonoatbuntu5, time to upgrade then.  your ubuntu has reached end of life and is no longer supported
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> bignonoatbuntu5  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[10:57] <Paulus68_1> llutz: how do you re install the packages that you have in that package list?
[10:57] <bignonoatbuntu5> i dont give up so easy
[10:57] <bignonoatbuntu5> thanks MonkeyDust
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> bignonoatbuntu5: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:58] <bignonoatbuntu5> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[10:58] <llutz> Paulus68_1: dpkg --set-selections <packages.list && apt-get -u dselect-upgrade
[10:59] <BluesKaj> donkarlo. try sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> bignonoatbuntu5: dude you are so far behind. You will get a more stable OS and faster if you do a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[10:59] <Paulus68_1> llutz: thanks
[10:59] <donkarlo> BluesKaj: What would that do ?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> bignonoatbuntu5  Breezy has been a corpse for a long time now
[11:00] <cfhowlett> bignonoatbuntu5, you might find the 12.04 lubuntu or xubuntu makes your machine run like new
[11:00] <excognac> any rumors about next LTS?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !lts
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !tahr
[11:00] <bignonoatbuntu5> i know yes but this crapy laptop keeps crashing on me so i said i try something really old
[11:01] <BluesKaj> OnkelTem. upgrade your packages and bring any fixes in
[11:01] <sam113101> donkarlo: did you install ubuntu server instead of ubuntu desktop, lol? because I don't see why you'd end up with no display manager
[11:01] <cfhowlett> bignonoatbuntu5, --- that's one kind of logic
[11:01] <bignonoatbuntu5> the problem is in the gpu
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> excognac: its called Trusty Tahr and is version 14.04
[11:01] <cfhowlett> sam113101, you might have hit it!
[11:02] <excognac> ActionParsnip: planned release date?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> excognac  april 2014
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !trusty
[11:02] <excognac> MonkeyDust:  cool
[11:03] <cfhowlett> bignonoatbuntu5, you're not giving any workable information but ... using a dead and done distro is not advised.  If you decide to go that way, expect little in the way of support.  and check out lubuntu and xubuntu
[11:04] <bignonoatbuntu5> i guess its stupid yes, so its lubuntu then
[11:05] <donkarlo> sam113101: no, I was using ubuntu 12.04 for months tody I installed fluxbox, then I didnt like it, i returned back to ubuntu I wanted to update the display driver, I chose something like NVIDIA 314 etc, and it was in middle of some updates that I restarted, and from then I end up to these black screens after choosing ubuntu az my operating system in boot menu
[11:05] <cfhowlett> bignonoatbuntu5, xubuntu and lubuntu are both optimized for older and lower spec devices.  xubuntu is arguably the more mature distro
[11:05] <bignonoatbuntu5> xubuntu?
[11:05] <donkarlo> sam113101: I have very important PHP and mysql projects on this machine. help me if you can
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !xubuntu|bignonoatbuntu5,
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu|bignonoatbuntu5,
[11:06] <bignonoatbuntu5> oh , that one
[11:06] <bignonoatbuntu5> i did use it
[11:07] <zetheroo1> I am trying to install Samba 4 from the repositories on Ubuntu 12.04 but the install finishes with http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335128/
[11:07] <sam113101> donkarlo: you restarted your computer in the middle of an update?
[11:07] <bignonoatbuntu5> thank you all , will give xfce a shot , cheers
[11:07] <donkarlo> sam113101: yes, unfortunately
[11:07] <cfhowlett> donkarlo, unwise
[11:08] <donkarlo> cfhowlett: it was by a mistake, hppened suddenly,
[11:09] <cfhowlett> donkarlo, suggest you finish your updating process.  go into text mode, run it. reboot.  you might be surprised
[11:09] <donkarlo> cfhowlett: how can I go to text mode?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !text
[11:12] <donkarlo> cfhowlett: right now it has written donkarlo@mohammad-desktop^$   maybe I am already in text mode, Am I?
[11:13] <lesshaste> how do you tell the resolution of a jpg?
[11:14] <nils-> count the pixels
[11:16] <lesshaste> is it something like "type" from the command line?
[11:17] <lesshaste> ah.. file
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> lesshaste  try    identify [file]
[11:18] <lesshaste> MonkeyDust, thanks.. file worked too
[11:19] <jjavaholic> In 13.10 where do you go to change the default file manager app?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: i believe imagemagik can tell you
[11:26] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip, :) thanks.. file worked too
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: coolio
[11:29] <excognac> ikonia: i tried to pastbin for you the output of sudo X -configure but i couldn't: it says Number of created screens does not match with the number of devices Configuration failed
[11:29] <ikonia> excognac: yeah, it's not going to work like that
[11:31] <excognac> ikonia: although, gui looks smooth and nice.  so what shall i do? just use this is install as it were stable?
[11:31] <ikonia> give me a minute
[11:33] <excognac> k
[11:33] <kn0thing> Hey guys, is stable-4.3 meant to compile stubdom cleanly? I'm getting a compilation error that doesn't look like a bad build environment (fbfront.c:108:5: error: format ‘%u’ expects argument of type ‘unsigned int’, but argument 5 has type ‘long unsigned int’ [-Werror=format=] )
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> kn0thing  sure you're asking in the right channel?
[11:34] <kn0thing> Oh wait, sorry
[11:35] <ikonia> excognac: ok, sorry, where are you up to, you've got 13.10 installed and its "ok" correct ?
[11:35] <kn0thing> Actually, whilst i'm here. Is there any reason why the xen packages for ubuntu are missing like half the tools?
[11:35] <excognac> ikonia: it looks like. how do i convince ourselves?
[11:36] <ikonia> excognac: well, is it running ok, in general,
[11:37] <excognac> ikonia: yap. don't really know how to test. try to suspend or so?
[11:37] <ikonia> no no lets not get that far ahead, I'm just talking about visual working
[11:38] <excognac> ikonia: cube animation works, resolution everything looks nice in gui
[11:38] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so lets try to get that as a "basic" configuration, you're still in kubuntu right ?
[11:39] <excognac> ikonia: yes
[11:40] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so lets stop kdm, "sudo service kdm stop" and generate the xorg.conf file again as we did before "sudo X -configure"
[11:40] <excognac> ikonia: so go to text mode?
[11:41] <ikonia> excognac: correct
[11:41] <cgt> After upgrading to 13.10 I get boxes instead of letters in evince's GUI (though not in the documents I open with it)
[11:42] <excognac> ikonia: kdm unrecognized service
[11:42] <excognac> so i do lightdm?
[11:43] <ikonia> ooh, is it lightdm, sorry
[11:43] <ikonia> yes
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> cgt: have you tried other doc viewer apps?
[11:46] <cgt> ActionParsnip: no
[11:48] <excognac> ikonia: it says: (++)Using config file: "/home/<user>/xorg.conf.new" (==)Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" Number of detected screens does not match the number of detected devices. Configuration failed. (EE) Server terminated ewith error (2). Closing log file.
[11:48] <cgt> It just seems weird. It shouldn't mess up characters like that.
[11:48] <cgt> Doesn't happen in any other app
[11:49] <excognac> ikonia: (i copied this manually from the other computer's screen) it lists drivers before this message. you want the /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[11:51] <parparazac> Hello. I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. My problem is the following. I have a folder containing many files in many subfolders and subsubfolders. I would like to create a new folder containing all the files and just the files (none of the subfolders). How do you do this? If there are different ways to do it, I prefer the easiest one (not from terminal).
[11:52] <reisio> parparazac: find folder/ -type f -exec mv -n {} ~/newfolder/ \;
[11:52] <ikonia> excognac: hmmm, that's interesting
[11:53] <ikonia> excognac: so it didn't make the xorg.conf.new as before then
[11:53] <parparazac> reisio: is that exactly what i type in the terminal?
[11:53] <excognac> ikonia: yeah. well, as i understand this version knows something is messed up but it works
[11:53] <parparazac> reisio: Is there a way to do it not from terminal? like an app or something?
[11:53] <reisio> parparazac: substituting 'folder/' and '~/newfolder/' as desired, yes
[11:53] <ikonia> excognac: can I have a look at the xorg.conf.new it created
[11:53] <reisio> parparazac: it's really safer from a terminal
[11:53] <mIKEjONES> holy hell, ubuntu is getting worse and worse with each release
[11:54] <ikonia> excognac: I'm assuming this is because parts have been split out into xorg.conf.d
[11:54] <parparazac> does that move or copy the files?
[11:54] <reisio> parparazac: mv is for moving
[11:54] <parparazac> i want to copy
[11:54] <reisio> parparazac: okay, cp -n instead of mv -n then
[11:55] <reisio> parparazac: find path/to/folder/with/files/ -type f -exec cp -n {} /path/to/newfolder/ \;
[11:55] <excognac> ikonia: paste.ubuntu.com/6335322
[11:55] <ikonia> excognac: whoaaa this time it thinks there are 3 displays
[11:56] <excognac> ikonia: i rofled
[11:56] <ikonia> excognac: with 4 monitors !
[11:56] <parparazac> ok i will go try that, thanks
[11:56] <mIKEjONES> does ubuntu go through any sort of quality control anymore?
[11:56] <mIKEjONES> like _any_?
[11:56] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: there are other distros if you don't like ubuntu, ranting in here won't change anything so please don't
[11:57] <lesshaste> I would like to zero-out unused memory pages to reduce the size of VM snapshots. The hypervisor saves all non-zero pages in the snapshot, so freed, non-zero, but unused pages are stored in the snapshot when they needn't be.
[11:57] <lesshaste> is this possible?
[11:57] <ikonia> excognac: ok, so the card settings are different, this is all intereting to  me as I've not usd the "on cpu" graphics before with xorg, certainly not in any real detail
[11:57] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: unfortunately its appeal to non-linux users has made this abomination of an OS a standard
[11:57] <nils-> I'm wondering, can I put up some sort of message on the regular console login screen (where it says Ubuntu $version $hostname $tty)?
[11:58] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: as I said, you're free to chose a different distribution, but complaining in here won't do anything so, please don't continue
[11:58] <mIKEjONES> I'm on my 3rd reinstall of 13.10 this week
[11:58] <mIKEjONES> first installing ia31-libs-multiarch packages destroyed my system
[11:58] <mIKEjONES> to the point that I could even launch a shell anymore
[11:58] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: stop
[11:59] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: if you want help, ask a support question, if you want to complain, this is not the channel
[11:59] <excognac> mIKEjONES: raging here won't help
[11:59] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: I'm trying to be helpful and provide feedback to the developers
[11:59] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: as I said, this is not the channel for it
[11:59] <mIKEjONES> like, they should probably consider total and complete career changes
[11:59] <ikonia> mIKEjONES: final warning - please stop
[12:00] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: alright, but I would very strongly suggest looking at what nvidia-opencl-dev & opencl-headers do to X
[12:00] <ikonia> excognac: from my point of view, I don't see why it's detecting the on cpu graphics so many times
[12:00] <ikonia> excognac: I'm not sure how much of a problem that's actually creating, but it doesn't seem good
[12:01] <excognac> ikonia: it has a fancy BIOS with 5000000 settings.
[12:01] <guest1010> hey guys one quick question, can i test a malware using ubuntu on vmware without actually harming my host pc?
[12:01] <ikonia> excognac: no doubt.
[12:02] <ikonia> guest1010: if you are careful and isolate the guest yes
[12:02] <parparazac> reisio: it says missing argument for -exec
[12:02] <guest1010> by isolate you mean not have a shared folder? ( im sort of new to this :/
[12:03] <ikonia> excognac: two things stick out in your current situation 1.) the version of the intel module that ships with 12.04/13.10 - and what/how it supports 2.) the terible detection of multiple devices
[12:03] <reisio> parparazac: then you copied it wrong
[12:03] <mIKEjONES> ikonia: it's infuriating spending 20 hours rebuilding a ton of packages from scratch only to have some poorly maintained package come buy and completely wreck a system to the point that you can't log in with lightgdm
[12:03] <mIKEjONES> and opencl pacakages are likely to be used by people in the scientific community
[12:05] <Xecuter> anyone here using Ubuntu 13.10 on a Macbook Pro? I'm having several problems, firstly, I can't seem to install wifi-drivers. Secondly, there are lots of graphical glitches around, haven't installed any proprietary drivers yet.
[12:05] <parparazac> reisio: find /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/ \;
[12:06] <__raven_> 13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve
[12:06] <parparazac> reisio: what's wrong?
[12:06] <excognac> ikonia: shall i put it on lauchpad? shall i try to use it but keep here my private laptop in case it collapses?
[12:06] <reisio> parparazac: looks fine to me
[12:07] <parparazac> but i get >>>  find: manca l'argomento per «-exec»
[12:07] <parparazac> missing argument for exec
[12:07] <ikonia> excognac: if you want to put it on launchpad sure, I'm sure we can work it through, it's an interesting learning experience for me too
[12:08] <reisio> parparazac: try it just up to and including -type f
[12:08] <parparazac> that works, it gives me a list of all files
[12:09] <excognac> ikonia: ok let's work it through if you have time. i don't really need to work now, settingup my new machine looks like an acceptable task. i don't put it on launchpad yet.
[12:09] <reisio> parparazac: alright, add -exec file {} \;
[12:09] <ikonia> excognac: lets ask reisio to play, hes knowledgable and may find this interesting
[12:09] <__raven_> 13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve
[12:10] <parparazac> that works too, i get the same list with more information (i think)
[12:10] <reisio> parparazac: well then -exec cp -n {} /new/path/ \; should also work
[12:11] <excognac> reisio: can you help me and ikonia please? on core i5 desktop with cpu integrated graphics xorg thinks i have 4 screens with 3 displays.
[12:11] <ikonia> reisio: interesting in something a bit out of the norm ?
[12:11] <reisio> parparazac: what's the output of echo $SHELL?
[12:11] <reisio> ikonia: like what? :p
[12:11]  * reisio reads
[12:11] <excognac> ikonia: i hope it's not because i set 4 virtual desktops
[12:11] <parparazac> reisio: /bin/bash
[12:12] <reisio> what makes you think Xorg thinks you have 4 screens and 3 displays?
[12:12] <reisio> parparazac: should be fine, then
[12:12] <ikonia> reisio: been working through this with excognac for a day or so, he's swapping between 12.04 and 13.10, xorg is messed up on 12.04 but it looks like it's a.) detection of the gpu - which is on cpu graphics 2.) the actual intel module from xorg not supporting it
[12:12] <r2d2__> bakr2d2
[12:12] <excognac> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335322/
[12:12] <parparazac> but if we changed nothing then i will get the same error
[12:12] <ikonia> reisio: when you do the X -configure and it does detection it detects 3 cards at the same pci address and 4 monitor definitinos
[12:13] <reisio> what happens when you start X without a xorg.conf?
[12:13] <excognac> reisio: how do i do that?
[12:13] <ikonia> reisio: 13.10 it works, 12.04 it doesn't, but that appears to be down to the intel module shipped with xorg in 12.04 - but vesa also fails
[12:13] <ikonia> excognac: you've already done it
[12:14] <reisio> okay, so... try the kernel from the working one with the non-working one?
[12:14] <reisio> it could just be the intel driver
[12:15] <ikonia> reisio: that was my initial thought, but vesa also failing to actually display anything usable seems odd
[12:16] <parparazac> reisio: does the command create the folder fpone or do i need to create it before?
[12:16] <excognac> reisio: however, i could have a gui with installing lightdm in 12.04 please note both are kubuntu!
[12:17] <ikonia> reisio: I'm partially wondering if because it's detecting 3 cards the auto detection is not picking up vesa to the right address and using one of the other modules, but I'm not convinced by that
[12:17] <reisio> parparazac: ah, yes you need to create it beforehand
[12:18] <reisio> what about editing this xorg.conf so it isn't crazy? :)
[12:18] <r2d2__> h
[12:18] <parparazac> reisio: ok i did. but i still get the same error. missing argument for -exec   .  could it be because my ubuntu is in italian?
[12:19] <parparazac> maybe the command is different or something
[12:19] <reisio> parparazac: maybe indirectly, it could be it's mixed up about the chars
[12:19] <ikonia> reisio: I've been playing with that with him, but the problem I'm seeing is forcing pci:0:2:0 to vesa doesn't seem to have an impact
[12:20] <parparazac> what does it mean mixed up about the chars? how do i fix it?
[12:21] <sam113101> can you create hard links of directories on ubuntu?
[12:21] <guest1010> is it possible to completely isolate my ubuntu guest os from the host in VM even when it comes to rootkits?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> sam113101: yes as long as they are on the same physical disk
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> sam113101: symlinks can traverse different drives
[12:22] <sam113101> ActionParsnip: ok
[12:22] <sam113101> thanks
[12:23] <reisio> parparazac: if you wget http://dpaste.com/1436261/plain/ and then run sh on it, that could be useful
[12:23] <reisio> guest1010: badware escaping from a VM guest is pretty unheard of
[12:23] <parparazac> find /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/\;
[12:24] <parparazac> find: manca l'argomento per «-exec»
[12:24] <parparazac> (missing argument for «-exec») ????
[12:24] <reisio> parparazac: that's so far out
[12:24] <guest1010> thanks
[12:24] <parparazac> reisio: that's so far out? dont understand what you mean
[12:25] <reisio> parparazac: odd
[12:25] <reisio> parparazac: how about opening up the file manager, going to the top dir and hitting 'Search'
[12:25] <reisio> parparazac: and just putting in '*'
[12:28] <parparazac> reisio: i get nothing, not sure i did what you wanted me to though
[12:31] <excognac> ikonia: reisio thanks for trying to help, i'm afk for max.40 mins. i leave chat on so i don't miss anything
[12:31] <parparazac> reisio: it works if i write jpg, but i dont get all files because not all files are jpg
[12:31] <ikonia> excognac: don't give up yet, I'm just reading more about on board cpu graphics
[12:32] <Michael1234> has anyone successfully installed nvidia-opencl/opencl-headers on the latest ubuntu?
[12:32] <parparazac> find /media/PENR/fpss -type f -exec cp -n {} /media/PENR/fpone/\;
[12:32] <parparazac> find: manca l'argomento per «-exec»
[12:32] <parparazac> (missing argument for «-exec») ????
[12:32] <reisio> parparazac: yeah, what about '**'
[12:32] <parparazac> oops
[12:33] <reisio> parparazac: um, I mean '*.*'
[12:36] <parparazac> reisio: doesnt work, tried both with and without quotes
[12:37] <reisio> parparazac: alright, well maybe someone else can help you with a GUI method
[12:38] <reisio> it's not great that your terminal/shell is broken
[12:38] <parparazac> broken?
[12:38] <parparazac> why broken?
[12:38] <parparazac> everything works fine on this comp
[12:38] <reisio> the 'find' command doesn't
[12:39] <parparazac> yes it worked when we didnt put in the rest of the line, remember?
[12:39] <reisio> right, but the rest of the line you need :)
[12:40] <parparazac> ok well thanks anyways for your help :)
[12:40] <reisio> parparazac: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/findwild-is-gui-wildcard-file-search.html maybe
[12:41] <parparazac> ok
[12:41] <parparazac> thanks
[12:46] <Sungam> Hi, Linux noob here. I installed Ubuntu server on a laptop yesterday and connected it to wifi. I have moved the server to a different network, and want to connect it through ethernet. Is there a command to change the network settings?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !wireless
[12:47] <rory> Sungam: Look at the file /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <rory> Sungam: See here for the exact syntax of how to define network interfaces http://linux.about.com/od/ubusrv_doc/a/ubusg16t02.htm
[12:54] <linux_unix-10> hi
[12:55] <cfhowlett> linux_unix-10, greetings
[12:55] <reisio> linux_unix-10: salutations
[12:56] <linux_unix-10> I'm trying to install deb files through gdebi, but it keeps saying that there is another package manager running even though none is seen running in top. What should I do?
[12:56] <reisio> linux_unix-10: software center? synaptic?
[12:57] <linux_unix-10> I'm using deb files on an external disk
[12:57] <linux_unix-10> can you use synaptic for that?
[12:58] <reisio> linux_unix-10: I'm saying make sure they aren't running
[12:59] <linux_unix-10> gdebi is the only one running
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> linux_unix-10: why would you need to? If you want to install them all just use:  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[12:59] <linux_unix-10> oh
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> waaaaaay easier
[12:59] <linux_unix-10> but I need a graphical one
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> linux_unix-10: why?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> linux_unix-10, dpkg works.  use it.
[13:00] <linux_unix-10> I need it to associate deb files to
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> linux_unix-10: why do you 'need' a graphical one?
[13:00] <cfhowlett> ^^^^ this ...
[13:01] <linux_unix-10> thanks for the tip though
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> linux_unix-10: why do you 'need' a graphical one?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> linux_unix-10  paste this line in Terminal, then run gdebi again    sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix
[13:02] <smoothgent83> hello
[13:03] <cfhowlett> smoothgent83, greetings
[13:03] <smoothgent83> new here
[13:03] <MrQuist> Humble greetings to smoothgent83
[13:03] <linux_unix-10> maybe that's why, I tried to install a wireless driver, but it failed, miserably
[13:03] <MrQuist> new to #ubuntu? or also to ubuntu?
[13:03] <cfhowlett> smoothgent83, have you an ubuntu problem?
[13:03] <MrQuist> you have* not have you
[13:03] <smoothgent83> not yet
[13:03] <MrQuist> "do you have" actually
[13:04] <smoothgent83> just install yesterday
[13:04] <MrQuist> even better: "Do you experience"
[13:04] <cfhowlett> MrQuist, I beg to differ.
[13:04] <MrQuist> "Do you experience any Ubuntu related problems?"
[13:04] <smoothgent83> no
[13:04] <cfhowlett> MrQuist, offtopic, but as an English teacher, I can assure, that structure is acceptable.
[13:05] <linux_unix-10> ubottu: do I still include the »'s?
[13:05] <nils-> What is the nature of your ubuntu emergency?
[13:05] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:05] <MrQuist> it sounds old. It sounds like a Dutch person literally translating words without applying grammar.
[13:05] <MrQuist> "Have ye troubles, ol sport?"
[13:06] <linux_unix-10> yeah, right... \:)
[13:06] <MrQuist> anyhow, lets go to ##linguistics
[13:06] <MasterOfDisaster> nils-: wasn't the line "State the nature..."?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> MrQuist, and yet, he understood it perfectly.  Go figure.
[13:06] <nils-> MasterOfDisaster: indeed
[13:06] <MonkeyDust> "what do you lack, Sir?"
[13:06] <MrQuist> decency
[13:06] <MasterOfDisaster> nils-: :D
[13:07]  * cfhowlett ... thinks we just scared away a new user.  
[13:07]  * MrQuist too
[13:10] <__raven_> 13.10 segmentation fault in x264 with avconv and ffmpeg - how to solve
[13:11] <cfhowlett> __raven_, I don't know, but I'm on Ubuntustudio 12.04 and haven't had a single issue with avconv or ffmpeg
[13:12] <emr> Hello, trying to update my sys. h/e google-chrome-stable and google-talkplugin packages updating very slowly (from dl.google.com) is it any idea?
[13:12] <MasterOfDisaster> __raven_: we need more data. reproducable? got a backtrace? any test data?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> emr, but it is downloading?  live with it.
[13:13] <excognac>  ikonia sure, thanks, i'm back
[13:13] <MasterOfDisaster> emr: we can't do anything about a lousy connection on your end, sorry.
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> what's h/e ?
[13:13] <MasterOfDisaster> MonkeyDust: typo, most likely
[13:14] <emr> cfhowlett, nope i cant say its download, MasterOfDisaster my connection is good on other repos
[13:15] <emr> MonkeyDust, h/e however i guess (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/H%2FE)
[13:16] <cfhowlett> emr, new one on me.   doubt the h/e is going to see much use ...
[13:16] <Kihokki> I tried to download Google Music Manager from google, the download got stuck often so I had to cancel it and then continue downloading it
[13:16] <Kihokki> this happened yesterday
[13:16] <Earlo> Hello, exuse me. I just changed my motherboard and processor. and i was told that i could use Ubuntu after it just fine. But, now when i try to enter, the mouse does not respond at all. It works just fine in bios.
[13:16] <Earlo> What should i do?
[13:17] <emr> Kihokki, maybe temp. network problem on google side, i hope
[13:17] <Logi> I've got some i/o heavy processes failing in odd ways and I suspect that something is wrong with the NFS mount it'sworking on. Is there a suitable test utility for that? My google skills fail me :-/
[13:17] <cfhowlett> Earlo, reinstall
[13:17] <MasterOfDisaster> Kihokki, emr: perhaps it's nsa hogging google's bandwidth.
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Logi  i use NFS, what goes wrong?
[13:18] <emr> MasterOfDisaster, :d
[13:18] <Earlo> ok. : /
[13:18] <cfhowlett> MasterOfDisaster, ah, man! You NEVER say their name!  There scans ping and they start a new monitoring plug
[13:19] <MasterOfDisaster> Earlo: check whether your mouse is detected by running 'dmesg'
[13:19] <Earlo> MasterOfDisaster, How?
[13:19] <k-joseph> hi guys
[13:19] <MasterOfDisaster> cfhowlett: Voldemort! NSA! Bloody Mary! There, you made me do it :D
[13:19] <reisio> k-joseph: hi
[13:20] <MasterOfDisaster> Earlo: open a terminal, type in 'dmesg' and press enter
[13:20] <cfhowlett> MasterOfDisaster, *smite*
[13:20] <k-joseph> do 32-bit softwares work on 64-bit OS of ubuntu
[13:20] <k-joseph> ?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, greetings
[13:20] <k-joseph> reisio, cfhowlett: thanks :)
[13:21] <MasterOfDisaster> k-joseph: depends, standalone sw likely, plugins depend on the software they run in to be available as 32 bit version.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> k-joseph, they do
[13:21] <Earlo> MasterOfDisaster, I am not sure if my keyboard is responding either. at least Ctr+Alt+T does not work.
[13:21] <Earlo> Do i need to be logged in to do that?
[13:22] <MasterOfDisaster> Earlo: yes
[13:22] <MrQuist> Earlo, weird. Im also not sure if my keyboard works.
[13:22] <reisio> k-joseph: the architecture is actually frequently called x86_64, it's backwards compatible
[13:22] <reisio> k-joseph: 86 for 32, 64 for 64
[13:23] <k-joseph> great, am advising some one that wants to run eclipse, and i had suggested a 32-bit version, after i learnt that he runs 64-bit
[13:23] <MrQuist> Earlo, i think my display is also not working.... Not sure tho.
[13:23] <reisio> k-joseph: why's tat
[13:23] <reisio> that*
[13:23] <Earlo>  /___\
[13:23] <MasterOfDisaster> Earlo: look out for a line like this: [260584.020201] input: Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.7 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb1/1-1/1-1.5/1-1.5.1/1-1.5.1:1.0/input/input24
[13:24] <MasterOfDisaster> k-joseph: eclipse comes as a 64 bit version too, iirc
[13:24] <k-joseph> thanks guys, am contented, regards reisio, cfhowlett, MasterOfDisaster, etc
[13:25] <liu> hello
[13:25] <MasterOfDisaster> liu: hi
[13:25] <k-joseph> MasterOfDisaster: since he is already downloading 32-bit, i i think he can use that one
[13:26] <fengshaun> I'm trying to download ubuntu 13.10, but the iso is labeled 12.04!  Is that a mislabel or what?
[13:26] <MasterOfDisaster> fengshaun: nope
[13:26] <fengshaun> ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop
[13:27] <reisio> fengshaun: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/13.10/
[13:27] <fengshaun> reisio: much better!  Am I missing something on the website?
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> fengshaun  there's a bug, if you diabled javascript in you browser, it downloads the wrong version
[13:27] <TalkingMuffin> fengshaun: do you know what mirror you grabbed that from?
[13:27] <fengshaun> oh
[13:28] <TalkingMuffin> MonkeyDust: is that logged?
[13:28] <fengshaun> TalkingMuffin: no
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> TalkingMuffin  there's a launchpad bug, moment, searching
[13:28] <wylde> TalkingMuffin, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/1193761
[13:28] <TalkingMuffin> wylde: great, thanks. Just wanted to make sure it was in the right place.
[13:29] <fengshaun> oh, the website needs yahooapis to work!  Thanks!
[13:30] <wylde> __raven_, also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x264/+bug/1241772 , if you're still here. It's fixed in the proposed repos from what I read.
[13:31] <Logi> MonkeyDust: It's simply as if the last chunk of some files is missing. It's mostly just weird.
[13:31] <Logi> (sorry, got distracted for a moment)
[13:31] <Earlo> ok, now i can't get into bios either. :-l
[13:31] <Logi> MonkeyDust: There are other things for me to test out, but a utility that just does a bunch of i/o testing would be useful.
[13:31] <Earlo> what do?
[13:33] <excognac> ikonia: i'm afk again, will pm u when back
[13:35] <packardbell> Hey. Where can i find the install-manual from the Ubuntu 13 server ?
[13:36] <packardbell> ow, nvm. Found it
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !manual|packardbell,
[13:43] <santo_> hi. Hopefully it's possible to get a hand with a minor issue in here :)
[13:44] <cfhowlett> !details|santo_,
[13:46] <santo_> my bad. I have an issue with downloading videos from a certain webpage. At this time I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 or so. It seems to be out of my reach to aqquire the wanted video
[13:46] <pacgone> &j \archlinux
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> santo_  how do you try to download the video? sure it's not website related?
[13:47] <cfhowlett> download?  see firefox add-ons to get videos
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> santo_  with firefox, chromium, some other browser?
[13:49] <santo_> I'm wondering if it could be website related due to miner videoclips appearing using software suitable for chrome
[13:50] <santo_> files are sized from 625 kb to 2-3mb
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> santo_  si it's with chrome?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> so*
[13:52] <cfhowlett> santo_, probably not a size issue ...
[13:52] <okarin21> May be you should try flareget
[13:53] <santo_> I mainly use chrome yes, but alongsided chromium and firefox. No size issue, got it. Never heard of flareget
[13:54] <sam113101> what's ubuntu's bootsplash?
[13:55] <motaka3> hello, my ubuntu 12.04 seems to be very unstable and maybe i loose it the next time I reboot, do you know what I should back up so later I can have ubuntu with the same backups?
[13:55] <linux_unix-10> hi
[13:56] <motaka3> sam113101: do u remember my problem ?
[13:56] <sam113101> motaka3: who are you?
[13:56] <bean__> motaka3: i'd just backup your home folder
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> motaka3  rsync -a is a quick way to backup
[13:56] <bean__> unless you have service configurations
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> okarin21  keep it in the channel please
[13:56] <motaka3> sam113101: the who had a blank page with a blinking cursor
[13:57] <linux_unix-10> i still can't use gdebi after applying the following commands: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock and sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:57] <sam113101> I vaguely remember
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> linux_unix-10  what happens when you try?
[13:58] <motaka3> sam113101: nomodeset didnt work for me, I saw ubuntu had sveral backups in boot list so I tried the last one, now I am in with. but the system is very slow and I think the next reboot I will endup the same problem
[13:59] <bean__> motaka3: that sounds like a hardware problem
[13:59] <linux_unix-10> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335810/
[13:59] <motaka3> bean__: yes, i think ubuntu doesnt like my graphic card.
[14:00] <bean__> motaka3: no, i'm talking about hardware failure, not just a GPU
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> linux_unix-10  if that's elementary os, type /join #elementaryos for support
[14:00] <motaka3> bean__: like what ?
[14:00] <bean__> motaka3: hard drive, anything really. A computer usually isn't made slow by a GPU
[14:00] <motaka3> bean__: will loose ububtu in next boot?
[14:01] <linux_unix-10> it's not, just disguised as such so i can receive their custom tweaks and stuff like that
[14:01] <sam113101> yeah sounds like a failing hard drive
[14:01] <bean__> motaka3: lose* ubuntu*, theres no way of knowing.
[14:01] <linux_unix-10> it's still ubuntu 12.04
[14:01] <motaka3> bean__: I have windows als on the same PC but it is not slow at all
[14:01] <bean__> motaka3: hmm, try installing graphics drivers then if its a non intel card.
[14:02] <bean__> linux_unix-10: I'd wager you won't get support from either doing it that way, as no one has the same setup as you in these channels
[14:02] <motaka3> bean__: I am doing it. it is NVidia I think
[14:02] <linux_unix-10> i can still switch back to original config
[14:02] <linux_unix-10> as in pure ubuntu 12.04
[14:03] <linux_unix-10> the tweaks will be hidden or disabled
[14:03] <cfhowlett> linux_unix-10, if they don't support the distro, maybe you shouldn't be using it.  choose wisely
[14:03] <linux_unix-10> i'm still seein which setup works best
[14:03] <linux_unix-10> *seeing
[14:04] <linux_unix-10> hold on...
[14:05] <samgabbay> Hello World!
[14:05] <bean__> samgabbay: Feel free to ask any questions you might have
[14:05] <linux_unix-10> ok i did it again with pure ubuntu, here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335828/
[14:06] <samgabbay> i dont need questions im here to help lol
[14:06] <bean__> linux_unix-10: how much memory is in that machine?
[14:07] <linux_unix-10> 1GB, it's running off a persistent live usb environment, but i gave it lots of swap on my local hard drive
[14:07] <longviewbits> I have a system with 8GB of RAM in it. Will Ubuntu only see/use 4GB if I stick with the 32-bit distro?
[14:07] <bean__> linux_unix-10: it looks like it runs out of memory when you try to do what you're doing.
[14:08] <mar09> !list
[14:08] <linux_unix-10> how can you tell?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> longviewbits, your system can run 64 bit  - so ...
[14:08] <bean__> linux_unix-10: it says unable to allocate memory
[14:08] <bean__> !pae | longviewbits if you really want to run a 32bit OS
[14:09] <linux_unix-10> where does it say that?
[14:09] <linux_unix-10> can't find it
[14:09] <bean__> linux_unix-10: line 53
[14:10] <linux_unix-10> found it
[14:10] <linux_unix-10> how do i solve this?
[14:10] <bean__> Not sure. It looks like it works the 2nd time?
[14:10] <bean__> wait, nope it doesnt
[14:10] <linux_unix-10> i can't add ram,my machine's is a laptop
[14:11] <SuperLag> bean__: tmux is acting weird on my work system... (longviewbits == SuperLag) so I'm connected back to home.
[14:12] <bean__> SuperLag: Ah okay. yeah if you really need to run 32 bit with > 3.2 GB of ram you can install a PAE kernel.
[14:12] <SuperLag> bean__: I don't *really* want to run 32-bit... but I just tried to get Adobe Reader working on my 64-bit system, and it requires a bunch of 32-bit libs, and in installing those... it looked like I *REMOVED* several critical packages on the system.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: PAE will present 3.2Gb per process
[14:13] <okarin21> I have 1.5GB of ram with ubuntu 13.10
[14:13] <linux_unix-10> bean_: how can i solve this problem?
[14:13] <SuperLag> bean__: and I'm just tried of fighting this crap. I just want it to *JUST WORK* and stay the hell out of my way.
[14:13] <cfhowlett> okarin21, pretty minimal but it'll workk
[14:13] <samgabbay> Teachers these days.
[14:14] <samgabbay> teachers these days
[14:14] <samgabbay> teachers these days
[14:14] <cfhowlett> samgabbay, stop please
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: then use Evince or xpdf etc
[14:15] <SuperLag> Time to break out the /ignore. :/
[14:15] <bean__> SuperLag: I don't doubt that. there used to be a compatibility layer (ia32-libs) but I'm not sure if that still exists.
[14:15] <SuperLag> bean__: no, that's gone
[14:15] <bean__> thats what I thought
[14:16] <SuperLag> you have to specify :i386 for the 32-bit versions you want to install
[14:16] <shaharnyhan> how do i reset my keyring phrase in 13.10?
[14:16] <SuperLag> I wish 32-bit would just die
[14:16] <SuperLag> (already)
[14:16] <bean__> SuperLag: :) don't we all.
[14:16] <SuperLag> enough of this mix and match crap
[14:16] <samgabbay> cfhowlett: stop what?
[14:17] <TheGhostOfLjL> samgabbay: repeating the same (not-really-on-topic) message multiple times, i suppose
[14:17] <cfhowlett> ^^^^
[14:17] <k5673> a
[14:17] <samgabbay> TheGhostOfLjL: i thought it simply did not sent
[14:19] <santo_> Now, I tested flareget, but no additional help on my issue
[14:19] <excognac>  i'm trying to set up a network printer. it has an IP adress. if things are correct i should be able to ping it from Konsole (terminal) right?
[14:20] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: usually yes. Some more fancy printers might have an integrated filter, or some device on the way might drop packets.
[14:21] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: telnet on the printer's service port should yield some result at least.
[14:22] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster: ok, unssuccesful. if router has a usb port, shall i try to connect priter to that? (i'm a hard noob with printers, never in my life set up such thing)
[14:24] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: which protocol are you using to set it up? ipp?
[14:25] <linux_unix-10> is is safe to delete the "lock" file at /var/lib/dpkg? I've tried many methods told to me and none seem to work
[14:25] <andybrine> A quick question, Is there a way to automount a hardrive on startup?
[14:25] <reisio> andybrine: usually /etc/fstab's task
[14:25] <MasterOfDisaster> andybrine: yes
[14:26] <mar09> !list
[14:26] <andybrine> thanks
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[14:26] <shaharnyhan> how do you access/reset/change keyring in 13.10?
[14:26] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: "telnet <printer ip> 631" yields what?
[14:26] <Guest81939> hi all, i have got a twinview setup, but when i launch anything the app is no longer centerd on the screen , it is off to the right edge of the screen , can someone assist
[14:26] <esde> when I click on a linked resource on a webpage in FireFox and the "Opening" dialogue appears, then select "Open With..." a file browser pops up. It seems there's quite a history of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995 Has any patch or official fix been released?
[14:27] <andybrine> Thanks MonkeyDust :)
[14:27] <esde> This is especially disappointing since there's a commercial user I'd like to migrate to ubuntu, but they're not savvy enough to find the executable for the application  they want to open a file with.
[14:29] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster:  Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out maybe i just but the cable in the wrong hole. i sould use the one with network sing, right? (squares connected with lines)
[14:29] <samgabbay> #ubuntu-discuss
[14:29] <excognac> * should sign
[14:29] <excognac> put
[14:30] <linux_unix-10> can i delete "lock" file at /var/lib/dpkg? I can't use gdebi because of it, and i've tried other methods to solve my problem.
[14:31] <SuperLag> I'm trying to fix this mess I've made with installing Adobe Reader, and I'm going to reinstall all the packages that were removed. I got that list from the apt history.log
[14:32] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: -> query
[14:32] <SuperLag> I'm just not sure about the sed-fu I need to remove some stuff from this list. language-selector-gnome:amd64 (0.116) <-- how do I remove everything after the ":"?
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> linux_unix-10: i presume you mean /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[14:33] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster: lol no wonder, i'm not dumb just have no experience with printers
[14:33] <Guest81939> i am not running compiz, so this should not be happening
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> SuperLag: | grep "^.*:"
[14:35] <gebbione> hi anyway i can see the version of packages when doing at apt-cache just like synaptic?
[14:35] <SuperLag> hitsujiTMO: sorry, that didn't work.
[14:35] <SuperLag> hitsujiTMO: it still shows the entire line
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> SuperLag: sorry yeah, realised after
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> gebbione: apt-cache show
[14:35] <esde> when I click on a linked resource on a webpage in FireFox and the "Opening" dialogue appears, then select "Open With..." a file browser pops up. Is there any way to replace that file browser with some sort human-friendly menu?
[14:35] <bgardner> gebbione: apt-cache policy packagename
[14:36] <TomyWork> before i kill my system: Does "update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/shinyprogram shinyprogram /usr/lib/shinyprogram-1.0/bin/shinyprogram" sound reasonable?
[14:36] <gimmic> How can I manually fire off the debconf script for ldap-auth-config?
[14:36] <gimmic> the installer is supposed to fire it off per documentation but doesn't
[14:36] <gebbione> ok i ll try both
[14:36] <SuperLag> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6335983/
[14:37] <wiiguy> hello, i have a laptop(HP dv6 2120ed) where i installed ubuntu 12.04 on, but whenever i close the lid and later oen it again, the screen stays black
[14:37] <wiiguy> what can i do about this ?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !suspend|wiiguy,
[14:37] <cfhowlett> wiiguy, sounds like a wake from suspend issue
[14:37] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster: ok, dont be nervous. it's a fancy Canon i-sensys mf9710, i'm using the right hole. (at least the one where my cable without aid of a hammer) it has menu to set things up. trying to find out the protocoll. i can't see it on my wireless network.
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !hibernate
[14:38] <TomyWork> or is it "update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/shinyprogram-1.0/bin/shinyprogram shinyprogram /usr/bin/shinyprogram"?
[14:38] <wiiguy> anyway to fix it ?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> wiiguy, looking
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> SuperLag: | grep -oh "^.*:"
[14:38] <wiiguy> ok
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> wiiguy  system settings > power > "when the lid is closed, do nothing"
[14:39] <wiiguy> MonkeyDust > that way it will just use power the whole time
[14:39] <wiiguy> when closed it should go in standby(that is what i want)
[14:39] <esde> Is it truly assumed everyone using ubuntu desktop "just knows" where the executable for the program they wish to use to open a file is located? This is actually pretty disappointing :(
[14:39] <sam113101> what's ubuntu's bootsplash?
[14:40] <MasterOfDisaster> esde: that's what $PATH is for...
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> wiiguy  ok, then "when the lid is closed, suspend"
[14:40] <sam113101> does ubuntu use plymouth?
[14:40] <wiiguy> let em try
[14:40] <chro> "Package rstudio has no available version, but exists in the database."
[14:40] <wiiguy> gimme a couple sec
[14:40] <k1l> sam113101: yes
[14:40] <MasterOfDisaster> esde: or rather the .desktop files for the gui iirc :D
[14:40] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: plymouth is what shows the splashscreen during boot and shutdown
[14:41] <sam113101> I thought it used xsplash
[14:41] <esde> MasterOfDisaster, motorcycle mechanics dont have time to open a terminal and find the path to the program they need to use. They need to be able to just click and open files from technical resource sites.
[14:42] <whoever> hi all need some help  with daul display , my launcher is on screen 0. and if i launch libre office  it will show on screen 1, if i launch something that has a splash screen , the splash screen shows on screen 0 and the app opens on screen 1. can someone assist , i think it should all happen on the same screen
[14:42] <esde> I could just imagine the grease laden keyboard now.
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: i don't exen think xsplash is in the repos
[14:42] <MasterOfDisaster> esde: ah, open a file in the browser? Well, next time lead with that. Have a look at mozplugger
[14:42] <esde> I DID! lopl
[14:42] <wiiguy> MonkeyDust > it is already on suspend
[14:42] <esde> see my previous messages
[14:42] <wiiguy> and hibernate option is disabled
[14:42] <k1l> sam113101: that was ages before plymouth
[14:42] <sam113101> k1l: ok
[14:43] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster: not sure but i think it uses some sort of http or dhcp or multiply protocols.
[14:44] <esde> Ty MasterOfDisaster this may be what I need
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> wiiguy  and you want hibarnation? if yes, this mayb be useful : http://www.howtogeek.com/113923/how-to-re-enable-hibernate-in-ubuntu-12.04/
[14:44] <gimmic> by the way, I had a question earlier
[14:44] <gimmic> how to re-run the debconf script
[14:45] <gimmic> for ldap-auth-config.. the answer is: dpkg-reconfigure -plow ldap-auth-config
[14:45] <wiiguy> let me read
[14:45] <MasterOfDisaster> esde: sorry, didn't want to be mean - I must have missed this.
[14:46] <esde> MasterOfDisaster, just tested it on a PDF link that I had an issue with before, opens the PDF up right in the browser! Thank you :)
[14:46] <utahcon> is it a known issue that the pub key is not available to apt for installs?
[14:46] <SuperLag> utahcon: that sounds like a PPA problem :)
[14:47] <utahcon> SuperLag: Its the main ubuntu archives that are bitching
[14:47] <excognac> MasterOfDisaster: it has some sort of SNB and SNmp set on it. shall i turn those off?
[14:47] <MasterOfDisaster> esde: Great that I could help :D
[14:47] <SuperLag> utahcon: interesting... I use the kernel.org mirrors, so I'm not seeing it
[14:47] <packardbell> I want to install a Ubuntu server on my old XP computer. How do i remove the XP software and stuff from my HD ?
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> utahcon: whats the exact error?
[14:48] <MasterOfDisaster> packardbell: during setup, ubuntu will give you the option to wipe your computer.
[14:48] <cfhowlett> packardbell, format it during ubuntu installation : poof.  gone.
[14:48] <packardbell> kk. thx
[14:48] <packardbell> :)
[14:49] <utahcon> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40967EAF437D05B5
[14:49] <utahcon> hitsujiTMO: ^
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> packardbell  boot from usb > use gparted to delete XP partition > create new partition and install ubuntu
[14:49] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: verify that it gets an ip address, the protocol to use with network printers is usually IPP (Port 631)
[14:49] <wiiguy> MonkeyDust > hibern ate will just shutdown my laptop without recovering the programs that were running(just tested)
[14:50] <MasterOfDisaster> excognac: don't touch anything else if you don't know what it is.
[14:50] <utahcon> hitsujiTMO: I get that for us.archivce.ubuntu.com, security, and ppa.launchpad
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> utahcon: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40967EAF437D05B5
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> utahcon: then run sudo apt-get update again and you should be fine
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> wiiguy  that's odd, the idea of hibernation is to recover running apps
[14:50] <MannerMan> Im looking for a solution to authenticate around 80 linux servers (centos & ubuntu) centrally, which solution would be suitable? ldap is not required.
[14:50] <packardbell> urgh... dam pc won't burn it >.>
[14:50] <wiiguy> dont think my laptop support it then
[14:50] <angus_> hey guys. is mint very different from ubuntu?
[14:50] <CorpusCallosum> Hi guys i am trying to change my current username but could not do it, can anyone help me out on that?
[14:51] <somsip> !mint
[14:51] <angus_> thx somsip
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> CorpusCallosum: create a new account. move your docs over. add it to sudo and what ever groups. then delete the old account
[14:52] <somsip> CorpusCallosum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[14:52] <CorpusCallosum> hitsujiTMO, problem there is too much modification on the current user such as menus, splashes etc
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> angus_  plenty reviews, here's one: http://lifehacker.com/5993297/ubuntu-vs-mint-which-linux-distro-is-better-for-beginners
[14:52] <MasterOfDisaster> CorpusCallosum: or, if you are very careful, edit /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and move your homedirectory.
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> CorpusCallosum: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username   its a dangerous process
[14:53] <angus_> thx MonkeyDust
[14:53] <angus_> looking at it now
[14:53] <utahcon> hitsujiTMO: the keyserver connection was refused...
[14:53] <MasterOfDisaster> CorpusCallosum: beware though, very dangerous if you mess up.
[14:54] <CorpusCallosum> MasterOfDisaster, actually i tried adding new user and copying all home stuff into new user's home directory but dd not work :)
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> utahcon: could be something wrong with that repo ... try changing
[14:54] <MasterOfDisaster> CorpusCallosum: did you move the dotfiles too?
[14:55] <rosipov> hey #ubuntu, any tip with this guy - http://askubuntu.com/questions/369057/apache-still-running-after-uninstalling
[14:55] <packardbell> when installing ubuntu via USB. Does the USB has to be empty (besides the .iso) or can i leave my other folders on it?
[14:55] <CorpusCallosum> MasterOfDisaster, yes but did not work
[14:55] <CorpusCallosum> even gnome did not open
[14:55] <cfhowlett> packardbell, you can have other files on the usb ...
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: how did you install apache2?
[14:56] <packardbell> and how do i burn the file? Cause I can only burn it to a CD. Or should i just copy-paste it onto the sticK?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> !usb|packardbell,
[14:56] <packardbell> :)
[14:58] <rosipov> hitsujiTMO: idk, it's been preinstalled on a VPS
[14:59] <jduhh4cw> hi
[14:59] <lmat> jduhh4cw: hi
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: can you run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: just post the link here
[15:00] <Radkos> hello
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> hitsujiTMO  tip: && is not needed here, a ; is enough
[15:01] <helmut_> hi
[15:02] <rosipov> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/PwTwgJgR
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: i use && so it will gracefully fail if an earlier command fails :P
[15:02] <Radkos> I've a problem with suspend on ubuntu 12.04 when a lid is closed or manually activate a suspend command it's going to sleep but the scheduled operation doesn't work
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Radkos  what command do you use? pm-suspend ?
[15:03] <Radkos> yes
[15:03] <jduhh4cw> Hi
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Radkos  as a cron task? is the cron syntax correct?
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: whats the output of: ls -l /usr/sbin/httpd
[15:05] <yesyayen> hi, as Ubuntu One is present in the right side of global menubar, how to add our application there? how to deploy the code?
[15:05] <Radkos> I didn't check that but I think it should be since I made a fresh install when find out on live session ot suspends but after install the problem didn't solve
[15:05] <GAYLORD> Hi, I have a small problem
[15:05] <rosipov> hitsujiTMO: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4503379 Oct 30 18:54 /usr/sbin/httpd
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> Radkos  how do you schedule it?
[15:06] <Radkos> should I check the default cron configuration or the user's one
[15:06] <h00k> yesyayen: those are app indicators, https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[15:06] <GAYLORD> my nic, I can't get it up
[15:06] <Radkos> well using the gnome-power-manager
[15:06] <k1l> GAYLORD: "/nick newnickname"
[15:07] <yesyayen> h00k: thank you so much for tht hint, i can see they have provided python API to write the code :)
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> Radkos  sudo crontab -e ... enter the command manually
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: i don't think they've installed apache via the package ... what version of ubuntu is this?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> Radkos  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab_Sections
[15:09] <GAYLORD> k1l: sorry?
[15:10] <rosipov> hitsujiTMO: 12.04.3 LTS
[15:10] <GAYLORD> cum again?
[15:10] <zerowaitstate> time for an op
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> zerowaitstate  just ignore it
[15:10] <packardbell> haha
[15:11] <k1l> GAYLORD: sorry, i read "nick" in your question. please stick to the guidelines in here and use family friendly language
[15:11] <GAYLORD> fuck im so sorry
[15:11] <GAYLORD> you cunt
[15:11] <packardbell> :)
[15:11] <zerowaitstate> thanks man
[15:11] <packardbell> gj k1
[15:11] <packardbell> gj k1l
[15:11] <packardbell> *
[15:12] <hitsujiTMO> rosipov: then that's not apache from the package. you'll have to contact the hosting company for help on that
[15:12] <k1l> guys, lets focus on support in here :)
[15:13] <packardbell> hmmm... I put the .iso on USB with Lili - when i start the XP and try to run the Virtual Box it says " Can't find MSVCR100.dll blabla"...
[15:13] <packardbell> Am i doing it wrong?
[15:13] <rosipov> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[15:14] <bananapie> Is it possible to disable a iptables nf_conntrack_ module that I compiled into the kernel without recompiling or rebooting ?
[15:14] <zerowaitstate> MSVCR100.dll is the Visual C++ runtime package.  You may need to download that and install it in your VM (OT i know)
[15:14] <packardbell> kk
[15:20] <gebbione> any idea why i cannot install this deb
[15:20] <gebbione> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6336175/
[15:20] <inktechnkikov> hi guys.can somebody how do i increase battery life in my laptop
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> gebbione  my guess: it's a non-debian package, that's been renamed with alien
[15:21] <BooeyOH> !topic
[15:22] <BooeyOH> I was able to follow the directions here (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys) to connect, using keys, to an ecrypted home directory.  But the data is still encrypted even after I get authenticated via keys.  Any ideas of why that is?
[15:24] <howefield> gebbione: try downloading the package again.
[15:25] <gebbione> definitely a broken download
[15:25] <gebbione> i get only a few bites back
[15:25] <gebbione> need to check url
[15:26] <packardbell> When i start my XP the "BOOT" menu is gone... Can't access it and google is dissappointing...
[15:26] <packardbell> How can in enable it again?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> packardbell: if you run:  sudo update-grub   do you see it?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> packardbell: XP is dead on 1st April 2014
[15:27] <nils-> is there a way to get an unpatched version of grub?
[15:27] <packardbell> i know
[15:27] <gimmic> anyone familiar with LDAP binding to AD?
[15:27] <packardbell> that's why i wanna run linux on it
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> nils-: how do you mean 'unpatched'
[15:27] <packardbell> but i can't open the BIOS settings when i start my PC
[15:27] <gimmic> i'm not getting a uidNumber from AD so I'm not sure how to generate the local uid
[15:28] <nils-> ActionParsnip: well ubuntu ships grub with a bunch of patches, many of which seem to disable any debug output
[15:28] <nils-> ActionParsnip: I'm looking around for a binary package without those patches applied
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> nils-: maybe the guys in #grub will know
[15:29] <nils-> ActionParsnip: yeah well they pretty much told me the last time that the ubuntu version sucks because they remove all the output
[15:30] <Guest56889> hi all is there a way to change the possision of 2d unity doc, i would rather use 2d then 3d if possible . can someone assist
[15:31] <esde> If a user was running Arch with Unity would it have the same ubuntu software center icon in the launcher?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Guest56889: there used to be a 3rd party PPA which had it on the bottom but it is known to cause issues
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> esde: depends on the icon theme, and Arch is not supported here
[15:32] <gdos> how do i re-install base unity?
[15:32] <esde> ActionParsnip, I realize that. This was not a request for support in any way.
[15:32] <Guest56889> ActionParsnip: was that bu chance "mario chavero" ?
[15:33] <Radkos> hallo
[15:33] <Radkos> i've tried editing crontab user's file
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> esde: you were asking about icons in Arch for an application...so yes, you did
[15:33] <Radkos> but didn't work scheduling suspend
[15:33] <ripthejacker> how do I use drag and drop in ubuntu?
[15:33] <cdwSymfony> Got an issue with apache2 on 13.10... How can I get mod_rewrite to log what it's doing?   I have tried the recommended configs but I may it in the wrong place?  Where is the appropriate place to put the config?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: drag and drop to what?
[15:34] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: drag from nautilus into firefox
[15:34] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: a file.
[15:35] <ripthejacker> I am using unity
[15:35] <esde> Thanks for pointing that out ActionParsnip. To better phrase the query for the channel. Is the icon set for unity in ubuntu unique to ubuntu?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: to open the file you mean?
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> esde: no, you can use it in any distro or desktop envirnoment you like
[15:35] <ripthejacker> yes or whatever the page can do with the file
[15:36] <gebbione> hi i have ubuntu/linaro installe
[15:36] <gebbione> d
[15:36] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: it's so easy in KDE
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest56889: Pavel Golikov   but the PPA only suports Oneiric which is EOL
[15:36] <gebbione> and not sure what package i should pick up amongst these
[15:36] <gebbione> http://apt.puppetlabs.com/
[15:37] <gebbione> any clue?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest56889: what you can do is run another dock on the bottom and disable the Unity plugin in ccsm
[15:37] <ripthejacker> http://trapcity.tv/
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> gebbione  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:38] <ripthejacker> how can I drag and drop to this page
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: even if you have the apps side by side?
[15:38] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: it covers the whole screen
[15:38] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: both are full screen
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> ripthejacker: then window it, does it work?
[15:39] <ripthejacker> ActionParsnip: any shortcut to make the window half screen? left or right?
[15:39] <gebbione> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \
[15:39] <packardbell> urgh...
[15:39] <packardbell> How to change the BIOS settings if you can't open BIOS on boot? >.>
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> gebbione  that's raring, choose the file accordingly
[15:40] <gebbione> MonkeyDust, yes i just googled that
[15:40] <nils-> I hate debugging boot problems. This box takes ages to boot.
[15:40] <gebbione> thanks
[15:40] <gebbione> i didn't know about /etc/issue
[15:40] <packardbell> lol nils-
[15:40] <packardbell> when i start my XP the screen stays blank, and only after couple of seconds i see the windows startup thingie
[15:41] <packardbell> so i don't see the screen where to enter BIOS
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> gebbione: you can also check the distro codename with: lsb_release -a
[15:41] <hexhaxtron> Can I give the link to my wiki?
[15:41] <oisa> I had my keyboard go wonky after installing a set of packages... e.g., CTRL was always on. It persisted even after reboot. Has anyone encountered this?
[15:41] <Radkos> I've tried to fix that sleepy thing by reinstalling cron and anacron but still no effect
[15:42] <gebbione> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> hexhaxtron: this is not a place for advertising
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> oisa: what packages did you install?
[15:44] <oisa> hitsujiTM0: mozilla's firefox bootstrap, so I frankly didn't even watch which packages
[15:47] <user32> Hi Can anyone tell why unix systems have group with user's name for every user? I guess it is to allow other users to access this file as well, but is there any other reasons?
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> oisa: seems thats unlikely to have caused it ... but may be a bug in one of the packages. I know there is a ctrl lock key sequence in windows, but not sure if it exists in ubuntu
[15:48] <oisa> hitsujiTMO: yeah I'
[15:48] <oisa> m at a loss too. thanks
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> user32: you must be part of a primary group. this questions is better asked in ##linux
[15:50] <packardbell> Boot error... hmmmpf
[15:51] <bgardner> packardbell: You may need to hit a hidden key to enter the BIOS.
[15:51] <bgardner> packardbell: Which key that is differs by hardware manufacturer
[15:51] <packardbell> found that
[15:51] <packardbell> it's de DEL key
[15:51] <XLV> user32 a group with user name isnt needed for other users to access a file owned by other users
[15:52] <Lynx_> Hi all! I need java 1.7 for a program. I did "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre" and it installed fine, but "java -version" still shows 1.6. How to I install 1.7 properly?
[15:52] <user32> Tnx for information.
[15:52] <XLV> user32 where have you seen unix systems by default create a group for each user? thats just a design decision by the distrib makers
[15:52] <packardbell> but can't find the option to boot from USB
[15:52] <packardbell> >.>
[15:52] <SuperLag> Lynx_: update-alternatives, look into that
[15:53] <SuperLag> Lynx_: if you install galternatives, it's a GUI version of the CLI command
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> Lynx_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/272187/setting-jdk-7-as-default
[15:53] <XLV> user32 distribs nowadays do it, ubuntu eg.. because theres no root user accessible in ubuntu too.. other unixes even other linux distribs dont.. they put all users into users group
[15:53] <TalkingMuffin> Lynx_: Theres a update-java-alternatives command
[15:53] <bgardner> packardbell: Old enough systems may not have the ability, or may call it something non-obvious.
[15:53] <SuperLag> TalkingMuffin: oh? I didn't know that
[15:54] <TalkingMuffin> SuperLag: it does all the java things at once, jdk, jre, etc.
[15:54] <XLV> user32 but thats a design decision by the ubuntu distib packagers.. they could very well put all users into a users group as well and it would work also ok
[15:54] <packardbell> hmmm
[15:54] <packardbell> in the Boot section there is 1: Removable Device - i can choose between Legacy Floppy, LS120, ZIP, ATAPI MO, USB FDD and USB ZIP
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> XLV it's not an ubuntu support question. If you want to continue discussion of it do it in  a more suitable channel
[15:55] <XLV> hitsujiTMO a few lines of general unix qa isnt the end of the world
[15:55] <Lynx_> TalkingMuffin, SuperLag, hitsujiTMO: update-java-alternatives worked, thanks!
[15:55] <user32> because theres no root user accessible in ubuntu << what does that mean? I can use sudo...
[15:55] <XLV> user32 yes  but you cant login as root
[15:56] <user32> oh
[15:56] <TalkingMuffin> Not directly anyway.
[15:56] <bgardner> packardbell: Any other choices for non-removable?
[15:56] <user32> tnx
[15:57] <packardbell> 2: IDE Hard Drive 3: ATAPI CD-ROM and 4: Other Boot Device -  (SCSI Boot Device or INT18 Device (Network) )
[15:58] <packardbell> and in the ATAPI i can choose from AOPEN CRW5232/AAO PRO or the AOPEN DVD1648/AAP PRO
[15:58] <user32> How to create new files with ubuntu's default file browser?
[15:59] <user32> I am used to have it by clicking with right click on free space but context menu does not have new file
[15:59] <packardbell> grmblf
[16:00] <bgardner> packardbell: I'd boot a CD and use a LiveCD to rewrite GRUB, if I were in your shoes.
[16:00] <packardbell> hmmm
[16:00] <packardbell> IC
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> user32  up right, the round thingy
[16:01] <packardbell> ain't gonna waste more time on dat old machine ... Fuck it
[16:01] <packardbell> :3
[16:01] <xangua> !language | packardbell
[16:01] <packardbell> sry xangua
[16:02] <user32> It only allows me to create new dir
[16:02] <bgardner> packardbell: Or boot a LiveCD and simply blank the drive and install new.  For an older machine, maybe Xubuntu or Lubuntu would suit you better.
[16:02] <Guest56889> i have an app that is launching on the extended screen vs the screen where the launcher resides, must i use compiz or there another wa9y to fix this
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> user32  New document > sub menu
[16:02] <packardbell> i tried that once... didn't work either
[16:03] <lmat> How do I make my terminal beep ?
[16:03] <philinux> user32: use gedit and create a blank file in Templates
[16:03] <lmat> I looked it up the last couple days and it's pretty confusing. Shouldn't I be able to do something like    $ \e[35 or something?
[16:03] <lmat> (send the control code to the terminal)
[16:04] <lmat> The biggest thing is that I want a beep to happen when I get a message in IRC (irssi). I think it uses terminal beeps, and I think (since I use the terminal all day and have never heard one) ubuntu is eating them up.
[16:04] <user32> where's templates?
[16:04] <lmat> user32: probably ~/Templates ?
[16:04] <bgardner> lmat: I did this yesterday for irssi - you need the beep.pl script
[16:04] <Radkos> do you have any suggestions fixing problem with my ubuntu 12.04 64bit since it doesn't goes to sleep using inactive period of time, manually running pm-suspend or closing a lid made it but the other didn't
[16:04] <lmat> bgardner: Thanks, I'll check it out.
[16:05] <bgardner> lmat: http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/beep.pl
[16:05] <philinux> user32: or ina terminal  touch filename.txt
[16:05] <lmat> bgardner: oh, dude, I am so far ahead of you :P
[16:05] <user32> tnx
[16:05] <lmat> bgardner: Where do I put it ?
[16:06] <bgardner> lmat: ~/.irssi/scripts
[16:06] <lmat> bgardner: Oh yeah, what does this do ? (after you tell me where to put it :P). Does it make the beep happen in gnome ?
[16:06] <philinux> user32: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nautilus#Nautilus_3.6_create_an_empty_document
[16:06] <lmat> bgardner: don't press enter yet. I'm going to restart irss.
[16:06] <lmat> irssi.
[16:06] <lmat> bgardner:
[16:06] <lmat> okay...no beeps
[16:07] <bgardner> lmat: Then do /set beep_command = command that makes a beep
[16:07] <lmat> bgardner: thanks
[16:07] <bgardner> lmat: for me, this is ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[16:07] <lmat> bgardner: OOO
[16:07] <philinux> user32: mind you i have nothing in Templates but right click has the option. The bug also says fix released. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1113648
[16:07] <lmat> bgardner: thanks thanks
[16:09] <lmat> bgardner: dude ,you've opened a world to me :)
[16:09] <bgardner> lmat: You may also want a symlink for beep.pl in ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun so you don't have to load it each time you start up.
[16:10] <lmat> bgardner: Can i put it in my rc
[16:10] <lmat> bgardner: I'm currently running   find '/usr/share/sounds' -name '*.ogg' -exec ogg123 {} \;
[16:10] <marz__> I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop version, is it possible for me to convert it to server version?
[16:10] <bgardner> lmat: What is it you want in your rc?
[16:11] <jefffan24> I'm having a problem with the unity bar after dragging a file from the file manager to any program...when I do that the unity bar stays opaque
[16:11] <lmat> bgardner: how do I test it?
[16:11] <lmat> bgardner: the autorun command.
[16:12] <lmat> bgardner: I'm in freenode as lmat_ (so I don't have to keep quitting and rejoining as lmat)
[16:12] <bgardner> lmat: Not a command, it's a subfolder beneath ~/.irssi/scripts
[16:12] <lmat> oh... /msg lmat_ doh
[16:12] <lmat> bgardner: autorun is a folder ?  so I'll put a file in there like    echo "/set beep_command=ogg123 .." > ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/setthebeep" ?
[16:12] <lmat> bgardner: (I basically did   echo "beep_command..." > ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun)
[16:13] <bgardner> lmat: Slow down, you're kinda getting ahead of yourself
[16:13] <bgardner> lmat: Just /set beep_command=ogg123 whatever then do /save and irssi will remember what you want
[16:14] <bgardner> lmat: Put beep.pl in ~/.irssi/scripts and ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun and then forget about it
[16:14] <lmat> bgardner: ooooo
[16:14] <lmat> bgardner: so "unknown setting beep_command" shouldn't be happening ? ^_^
[16:15] <lmat> bgardner: Maybe the beep_beep.pl I got is busted...
[16:15] <bgardner> lmat: No, should not happen.  Did you get the right one?  See the link I posted above.
[16:15] <lmat> bgardner: hmm, I'll check it out.
[16:16] <lmat> bgardner: would you please repost that ? (I left the room since then)
[16:16] <bgardner> lmat: Sure: http://scripts.irssi.org/scripts/beep.pl
[16:16] <bgardner> And you did get the wrong one - beep_beep.pl != beep.pl
[16:16] <lmat> :(
[16:18] <bgardner> lmat: Got it sorted out?
[16:19] <lmat> bgardner: no :(  Here's what's in my ~/.irssi/config     beep_command = "\"ogg123 /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Message-In.ogg\"";
[16:19] <santo_> Hi. I'm still having issues with downloading a video from a website on ubuntu 12.04 I've tried out several softwares with no luck so far. Any ideas?
[16:19] <lmat> bgardner: I've tried lots of iterations (it looks like I shouldn't be putting    beep_command = ogg... , there should be no equals, just space)
[16:20] <lmat> bgardner: Maybe irssi isn't beeping...
[16:21] <bgardner> lmat: Let's move over to pm
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> lmat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1640012
[16:21] <thomast1> trying to get irc working on empathy - I added the account-plugin-irc pkg, and added a freenode account, which is "On," but when I try to Join a Room in empathy, the freenode acct is greyed out.
[16:24] <zarnywoop> how do i remove the keyring on ubuntu13.10?
[16:24] <arcimboldo> Hi all, I am in a panic :)
[16:24] <arcimboldo> my openstack folsom is unable to create VMs anymore
[16:25] <excognac> is there any way to check if i plug a device into usb if it's 3.0? (yes, i know they are mostly blue)
[16:25] <TalkingMuffin> arcimboldo: Try #ubuntu-server
[16:25] <arcimboldo> ops, I thought I was in the #openstack channel
[16:25] <arcimboldo> sorry
[16:28] <daixtr> how do use 'sshuttle'? i'm connected to server but 'ping www.google.com' does not work
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> daixtr: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> daixtr  why do you want to use it, if you don't know what it does?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sshuttle is a proxy
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> daixtr  examples are shown below: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/sshuttle.8.html
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> why not use squid like everyone else
[16:33] <TalkingMuffin> ActionParsnip: because you'd need to install squid on the server then. sshuttle is just like setting up an ssh tunnel
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TalkingMuffin: you can ssh tunnel to sqiud, its what I do
[16:34] <TalkingMuffin> ActionParsnip: That would still require that you have the permission to install something on the server.
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> TalkingMuffin: means the squid doesnt have to be web facing
[16:34] <TuttoIRC> ciao
[16:34] <TuttoIRC> !list
[16:35] <daixtr> numeric ipaddrs does connect (though ping 8.8.8.8 does return much)...
[16:36]  * lmat bows down and kisses bgardner 's feet
[16:36] <lmat> bgardner: Thanks for your help on the irssi beep! It works perfectly now !!
[16:36] <bgardner> lmat: My pleasure, enjoy!
[16:36] <daixtr> MonkeyDust: my laptop is connected to the server machine via bluetooth only
[16:37] <lmat> daixtr: that's a problem
[16:37] <daixtr> `ping 8.8.8.8` does not exit, does not scroll, but it works..partially..
[16:39] <burkinanonymous> hello world
[16:40] <bgardner> burkinanonymous: world says hello back
[16:42] <MrMonkey31> is uh, mount not *supposed* to be able to work with samba urls?  I spent all this time troubleshooting my connection to the roommate's windows box, only to not be able to mount their ISO's
[16:42] <Rory> MrMonkey31: What is the mount command you are running?
[16:43] <MrMonkey31> Rory: mount isopathnname destpath
[16:43] <pero> !info gnome-settings-daemon
[16:43] <daixtr> i think, it's the dns part that is not work working...
[16:43] <Rory> MrMonkey31: Does isopathname look like /path/to/image.iso ?
[16:44] <Rory> MrMonkey31: You could try with mount -o loop /path/to/iso /path/to/mountpoint
[16:45] <bgardner> MrMonkey31: And /path/to/iso.iso *cannot* be a samba url, like //host/share/path/to/iso.iso
[16:45] <Rory> MrMonkey31: That's right. You need to already mount your samba share to a proper mountpoint, *then* mount the iso from there
[16:45] <TalkingMuffin> MrMonkey31: If its a network path to a samba share, you need to provide the type in the command and possibly pass your credentials. mount -t cifs //ip/path/ -o user=monkey
[16:46] <Rory> TalkingMuffin: There's two mounts that TalkingMuffin needs to do - firstly to mount the Samba share to his filesystem tree, and then to mount the image
[16:46] <MrMonkey31> thanks Rory and TalkingMuffin, it's as I thought.  hm complexity...
[16:47] <Rory> MrMonkey31: Not so much. How are you mounting the samba share?
[16:47] <Rory> !samba | MrMonkey31 you might want to see this first
[16:48] <pero> how would i go about upgrading gnome-settings-daemon to a newer version than in repo?
[16:48] <audun_> I put this in crontab and it doesn't work (but works in terminal): (ifconfig | grep inet) > /home/me/ipadresse.txt
[16:48] <audun_> gives empty file. Why?
[16:49] <Rory> pero: You would have to obtain a newer version, probably from upstream, and install (or compile and install) it. Alternatively, you could search to see if the version you want to install is included in a PPA. What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what version of gnome-settings-daemon do you want to upgrade to?
[16:49] <MrMonkey31> Rory: I was just doing everything via drag + drop out of nautilus, TalkingMuffin says I's gotta specify a cifs type so I reckon I'll try that first?
[16:49] <Rory> MrMonkey31: You still can't mount the iso in one step
[16:49] <pero> Rory: 13.10, and 3.8.6 - which includes a patch for the 'do nothing on close lid' bug patched 6 months ago
[16:50] <Rory> MrMonkey31: If you're using Nautilus already, why can't you just mount the .iso from nautilus as well? Right-click it and choose mount image (or similarly worded)
[16:50] <MrMonkey31> Rory: ohh ok.  yeh I've got this.  just my first time taking this in, that's all. gracias
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> Rory: is that a default feature?
[16:50] <MrMonkey31> why can't I?  er.  good question!
[16:50] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Is what, sorry? Mounting isos through nautilus? I believe it is
[16:51] <Rory> MrMonkey31: Well then a better question would be: what happens when you try? Do you get an error?
[16:51] <Private_User> so which flavour of ubuntu do people here recommend?
[16:52] <Private_User> just curious to get the opinions of you guys cause I have been trying to read as much as I can from the internet
[16:52] <MrMonkey31> Rory: I haven't found the menu spot *blushes*
[16:52] <reisio> Private_User: you can try each and switch to and from each regardless of which you install
[16:52] <Rory> MrMonkey31: How were you trying to do it before, when you were saying it wasn't working
[16:53] <MrMonkey31> but I've had good results with mount.  going to build on that as of right now.  next year, maybe I'll diversify
[16:53] <Rory> MrMonkey31: In that case you need to browse to where nautilus really mounts that Samba share, which I think is in /run/user/$USER/gvfs
[16:53] <MrMonkey31> Rory: oh, basically Click network, browse to appropriate WG/path/file, drag that guy into a terminal window after typing mount
[16:53] <Rory> MrMonkey31: Or maybe in /home/$USER/.gvfs I'm not sure which is which it changed at some point
[16:54] <Quinto> hi, i need libusb 1.0.16 which is apt package?
[16:54] <Rory> Quinto: What Ubuntu version?
[16:54] <Private_User> thanks reisio maybe I will, but just wanted to get others opinions what they prefer
[16:54] <luxgeek> Struggling to remember how to get my AR9565 internal wifi working with 12.04? I've been googling but no joy yet…suggestions?
[16:54] <Hoinom_Kitt> HELLO, WORLD! How to asm all interfaces ubu(g2,g3,u,c, etc) on same architecture a once dvd5? thx
[16:55] <Rory> Quinto: You can install it with the package libusb-1.0-0 or if you need the development libraries to compile software which uses libusb it's libusb-1.0-0-dev
[16:55] <MrMonkey31> Rory: it expanded it to a smb: url which you said was not gonna go through. I'm actually fine with the info I've gotten. I don't mind puzzling it out on my own.  gives me a sense of accomplishment.  nice to have this channel as a lifeline too 8   )
[16:55] <reisio> Private_User: Unity/GNOME will be more familiar to those coming from Mac OS, and KDE for those coming from Windows; Xfce can mimic either well enough, LXDE more like older Windows
[16:56] <luxgeek> Anyone?
[16:56] <Quinto> Rory: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[16:56] <Quinto> when i go in my app dont exist in include libusb.h
[16:56] <Rory> !info lubusb-1.0-0 lucid
[16:56] <Private_User> thanks reisio
[16:57] <Rory> Quinto: Then you need to install libusb-1.0-0-dev
[16:57] <Rory> !info libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid
[16:57] <Hoinom_Kitt> thx. im novice. decided to withdraw from the mask show.
[16:57] <Quinto> Rory: Couldn't find package libusb-1.0.0-dev
[16:58] <Rory> Quinto: Can you run "sudo apt-get update" first
[16:58] <Rory> Quinto: If you get any erorrs, please paste the full output from that command onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel so I can see
[16:58] <Quinto> same error arghhh
[16:59] <Quinto> Rory: Couldn't find package libusb-1.0.0-dev
[16:59] <Rory> Quinto: Server questions should go to #ubuntu-server in future by the way
[16:59] <Rory> Quinto: Can you pastebin the output from "sudo apt-get update"
[17:00] <Quinto> http://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4JRory:
[17:00] <Quinto> http://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4J
[17:00] <Quinto> Rory: http://pastebin.com/PhuvEa4J
[17:02] <andybrine> Quick question, im having problems automounting a hd, is there a graphical way to mount drives?
[17:02] <Rory> andybrine: Through the file manager, in the left hand side, or through the Disk Utility
[17:02] <audun_> can anyone help with crontab?
[17:03] <andybrine> Rory, I would lik it to mount on startup
[17:03] <Rory> Quinto: Are you sure you're typing libusb-1.0-0-dev correctly? The package does exist for your distro
[17:03] <Quinto> ah
[17:03] <Rory> andybrine: I believe the Disk Utility can do this
[17:03] <Quinto> libusb-1.0.0-dev or libusb-1.0-0-dev?
[17:04] <Rory> erm... whatever one Ubottu said was OK above
[17:04] <Rory> info libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid
[17:04] <Rory> !!info libusb-1.0-0-dev lucid
[17:04] <Rory> ugh sorry. anyway, that one
[17:04] <Quinto> libusb-1.0-0-dev is already the newest version.
[17:04] <Quinto> i have already this
[17:04] <Quinto> where is header files?
[17:05] <Rory> Quinto: try "sudo updatedb && locate libusb.h" or whaver the file is called
[17:05] <andybrine> Rory: Thanks
[17:05] <tsimpson> Quinto: /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[17:05] <Quinto> tsimpson: yes !
[17:06] <Quinto> but in my app on qt i dont view this header file
[17:07] <Quinto> tsimpson: but in my app on qt i dont view this header file
[17:08] <tsimpson> Quinto: which app?
[17:08] <Quinto> i want include this in my QT
[17:08] <Quinto> app
[17:08] <tet3> what's the correct URI syntax for connecting to  WebDAV share from the Files app -> Connect to Server dialog? It no longer allows to to select WebDAV from a drop-down.
[17:09] <tsimpson> Quinto: then you probably want to add /usr/include/libusb-1.0 to the include path and #include <lubusb.h>
[17:09] <Quinto> yes it work
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> tet3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233242/how-do-i-establish-a-webdav-connection-in-gnome-3
[17:12] <yesyayen> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/python/AppIndicator3-0.1.html - Internal Server Error , where else can i get the info in that page, kinda urgent
[17:13] <ljunggren> I accidentaly made my USB none-bootable.. i tried to format the whole shebang but i somehow failed.. and when i tried with usb-imagewriter and write ISO on it it just boots up normal session. There was several partitions on it before and now it only gets one big partition instead..what have i done? do i need to reformat it some format? I tought usb-imagewriter was doing that
[17:15] <bgardner> yesyayen: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BNt3bHruaN4J:developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.04/python/AppIndicator3-0.1.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[17:15] <Rory> ljunggren: Try a different writing tool? And yes, all those sorts of tools completely wipe the device each time (including partition table usually)
[17:16] <ljunggren> Rory, thats the only writing tool ive had luck with.. the ordinary from ubuntu always fails on something
[17:17] <ljunggren> Rory, in the one comes with ubuntu it just "fail" i have no idea why lol
[17:18] <MrMonkey31> ok I got to the bottom of that samba's sharing w your help and the useful link from chan bot!  what I needed was to install the cifs-utils package, then do the mount command using the -t cifs invocation.  now I can mount whatever stuff I'll need to from that shared folder
[17:18] <gordonjcp> ljunggren: I just use dd to transfer a hybrid ISO to the stick
[17:19] <ubuntu_> e ae galera
[17:19]  * MrMonkey31 dances extatically
[17:19] <ubuntu_> uma pergunta
[17:19] <ubuntu_> se eu tiver um processador amd athon x2 64 com 2 gb de memoria ram
[17:19] <danial> Which is the best software available in Ububntu to creat book (200-300 pages) related to theology?
[17:19] <ubuntu_> posso colocar a versao 64 ou 32
[17:19] <MrMonkey31> s/extatic/ecstatic
[17:20] <ljunggren> gordonjcp, perhaps i was using faulty ISO
[17:21] <danial> Which is the best software available in Ububntu to creat book (200-300 pages) related to theology?
[17:22] <Rory> danial: Do you mean you want to format a document as an ebook? Could you rephrase the question maybe?
[17:23] <vmachine> how can i perform a ping from a secondary address in ubuntu
[17:23] <kmyst> vmachine: what do you mean?
[17:23] <dv-> vmachine: ping -I
[17:23] <alex88> vmachine: ping -I interface address destination
[17:24] <kmyst> yeah what they said
[17:24] <danial> yes, i want to create an ebook.
[17:25] <vmachine> doesnt work... its still goes from primary address
[17:25] <vmachine> its one physical card but logical address
[17:26] <Rory> danial: The "calibre" program has a process to convert from various popular formats to the epub format
[17:26] <luxgeek> Struggling to remember how to get my AR9565 internal wifi working with 12.04? I've been googling but no joy yet…suggestions?
[17:26] <Rory> danial: It's not as simple as that though, read this first (it's about using Calibre to format an epub) http://www.teleread.com/drm/the-abcs-of-format-conversion-for-the-kindle-sony-and-nook-plus-some-calibre-tips/
[17:27] <danial> not for converting,
[17:27] <Rory> danial: What do you mean then?
[17:27] <yesyayen> bgardner: thank you!!! how did i forget that ??!!  :)
[17:27] <kmyst> vmachine: as long as your routing table is set right you should be able to ping an address on the same network your virtual interface is on
[17:27] <danial> I am looking for something like latex
[17:27] <Rory> danial: But not latex?
[17:28] <danial> I do not know how to do it on latex
[17:28] <bgardner> yesyayen: :)
[17:28] <Rory> danial: There is a program called Sigil I have found which helps you format an ebook https://github.com/user-none/Sigil
[17:28] <Rory> danial: Sorry you can download it here https://code.google.com/p/sigil/
[17:29] <Rory> danial: If you aren't comfortable compiling it from source, there are instructions on using a PPA here http://askubuntu.com/questions/297286/how-do-i-install-sigil
[17:30] <danial> ok, is more suitable than libre office?
[17:30] <benzrf> hello, I'm on saucy & I need adobe air
[17:30] <benzrf> all of the guys seem to require i32libs or something
[17:30] <Rory> danial: Yes because LibreOffice doesn't support epub format I believe, and this is a dedicated tool. I've not used it however
[17:30] <benzrf> *not guys
[17:30] <benzrf> instructions
[17:30] <Rory> benzrf: What Ubuntu version?
[17:31] <benzrf> Rory: 13:30 < benzrf> hello, I'm on saucy & I need adobe air
[17:31] <danial> is latex like a markup language? like html?
[17:32] <benzrf> danial: not exactly
[17:32] <benzrf> wait im not sure I know nothing about it
[17:32] <benzrf> ignore me please
[17:32] <Rory> benzrf: Follow the instructions you were using, but use this guide to install ia32-libs. Adobe discontinued support for AIR on Linux quite a while ago  http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-13-10
[17:33] <benzrf> it's... asking me to add raring as a package source
[17:33] <benzrf> that seems incredibly dangerous
[17:33] <danial> thank you Rory
[17:35] <Rory> benzrf: I believe you install ia32-libs from raring, then remove the source
[17:35] <Rory> benzrf: Yes it's dangerous, unsupported etc
[17:35] <benzrf> :I
[17:35] <Rory> But Adobe aren't going to start making nice 13.10 64-bit versions of Air ever
[17:35] <benzrf> ik
[17:36] <benzrf> alright, just this once
[17:36] <benzrf> >.>
[17:37] <yeyeman> how do I uninstall from terminal?
[17:37] <aswj> I can't get access to many sites from Ubunt 13.10
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> yeyeman: uninstall what?
[17:38] <Rory> yeyeman: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> aswj: what exactly do you mean?
[17:40] <yeyeman> what is the ubuntu equivilent of something like ccleaner?
[17:40] <benzrf> yeyeman: why would you need that?
[17:40] <Rory> yeyeman: bleachbit
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> yesyayen  or ubuntu-tweak janitor
[17:44] <benzrf> it didn't work
[17:44] <benzrf> im going to go to adobe hq
[17:44] <benzrf> and punch everybody there in the fac
[17:45] <benzrf> e
[17:51] <yeyeman> the clock sometimes doesn't start
[17:51] <luxgeek> what do I need to run on this brand new machine so that my 12.04 install will use the built in AR9565 wifi??
[17:51] <yeyeman> or does not show in the top right corner
[17:51] <jpedroza2k> apt-get is failing to import a ppa with a certificate validation error. I can hit the URL in a browser no problem, but apt doesn't like the SSL cert. Has anyone seen that before?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> yesyayen  in 13.10? that's reported as a launchpad bug
[17:53] <OerHeks> jpedroza2k, PPA's are officialy not supported here, but what ppa are you referring to? and what ubuntu version?
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> yeyeman  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1228360
[17:54] <jpedroza2k> OerHeks, atlassian and 13.10. I have asked in there as well.
[17:54] <delinquentme> soo this is the command I run to adjust my screen brightness: xrandr --output eDP-1 --brightness 0.52 I'd like to macro it to a few keys and 1) get the current brightness and then decrement/increment  that 10%
[17:54] <delinquentme> is this simple?
[17:54] <OerHeks> jpedroza2k, what url for that ppa ?
[17:55] <fatih> #ubuntu
[17:55] <jpedroza2k> OerHeks, https://sdkrepo.atlassian.com/debian/
[17:56] <yeyeman> MonkeyDust: thanks
[17:56] <jpedroza2k> It is the only https source I have.
[17:57] <jpedroza2k> Switching to straight http seems to work.
[17:59] <gugaua> Hello I have got a problem, i cannot authenticate cyrus-imapd with sasldb I use AUXPROP with SASLDB plugin and here are some logs
[17:59] <gugaua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6336922/
[18:00] <Mantissa> I accidentally was viewing the lenses I had when searching for something in the dash. How do I see all my lenses in the dash?
[18:01] <OerHeks> jpedroza2k, not really a PPA from launchpad, that ssl can be fixed easily.
[18:03] <joshua_Bishop> ay
[18:04] <ClientAlive> My friend has an old, old thinkpad (I think manufactured in 2001). I've convinced him to try a lightweight linux distro and have decided on Lubuntu for him. I read that older chipsets stopped being supported with the introduction of 10.10 but that 10.04 is no longer supported. Can someone advise?
[18:05] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: I think something from 2001 would be struggling even with Lubuntu
[18:06] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: can you find out the exact spec of the laptop?
[18:07] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: I could but not certain where to find the correct information. The only thing I can find is on the backside manufacturer's label, says: Type: 2628-75u
[18:07] <DarkSteel> hello
[18:07] <jmgk> hi
[18:07] <DarkSteel> thanks
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> ClientAlive: do you know what processor or how much ram the system has?
[18:07] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: bangin', that's all I need
[18:07] <DarkSteel> how are you talking about ?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> DarkSteel: this is a support channel not a talk channel
[18:07] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: if you had the serial number too, I could tell you exactly right down to who bolted it together in the factory :-D
[18:08] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: I have the s/n:
[18:08] <ClientAlive> one sec
[18:08] <DarkSteel> oke bY
[18:08] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: I'd need to poke someone at IBM
[18:08] <gordonjcp> it is a Thinkpad A22M, Pentium III 850MHz which had 64MB of RAM as stock
[18:09] <gordonjcp> they were nice in their day, but I doubt even Lubuntu would run
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: thats not even enough for 12.04 cli
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> ClientAlive: ^
[18:09] <gordonjcp> hitsujiTMO: well
[18:09] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: 78-KXYAH 09/01
[18:09] <gordonjcp> if you boot off the 32-bit mini iso which doesn't require PAE then you'll get somewhere
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> gordonjcp: 12.04 minimal server uses 50mb ram
[18:09] <gordonjcp> it will definitely need more RAM
[18:10] <ClientAlive> hitsujiTMO: I'm not certain. Trying to find more out now.
[18:10] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: maybe try something like Puppy Linux?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: fire it up and see how much RAM is in it?
[18:10] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: agh, good idea
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> ClientAlive: or damnsmalllinux ... maybe something with a 2.4 kernel
[18:11] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: Do you know if puppy is hard to install on the hard drive? And, if it runs entirely in ram and ram is minimal… well… what's left of ram for using the computer then?
[18:11] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: haven't tried
[18:11] <ee12025> hi
[18:11] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: it's worth a shot though
[18:11] <ClientAlive> hitsujiTMO: Good one too, thx
[18:12] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: It is, will do and thx.
[18:13] <gordonjcp> ClientAlive: if you're really hardcore you can get something like miniroot and compile your own tiny "embedded-ish" distro for it :-)
[18:14] <ClientAlive> gordonjcp: The problem is he's erally not very skilled on the computer. It came with win 98 (but we have no installation media for that). He need's to be able to click around and use it easy.
[18:16] <intrader> Anyone, Showstopper issues in ubuntu 13.10;  have come to the conclusion that I must reinstall 12.04 on top of 13.10 on account of the numerous problems with 13.10. Is there a way to reinstall 13.10 - to give it one more try (upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10 generated many errors)
[18:17] <boze> any one figured out how to get everpad to work on 13.10?
[18:18] <trupheenix> anyone here who can help me with postfix?
[18:19] <gugaua> ask the question then we will see
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> holy crap i just found my old redhat 6.0 cds + licence
[18:23] <intrader> Anyone, Showstopper issues in ubuntu 13.10;  have come to the conclusion that I must reinstall 12.04 on top of 13.10 on account of the numerous problems with 13.10. Is there a way to reinstall 13.10 - to give it one more try (upgrading from 12.04->12.10->13.04->13.10 generated many errors) - If I reinstall 12.04 will ubuntu offer all the updates?
[18:24] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: first: whats the actual problem with 13.10?
[18:25] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:25] <Ari-Yang> intrader: if you install 12.04 LTS, ofc you'd get updates.... it's LTS
[18:26] <s2013> how do i add custom resolution to the display menu
[18:26] <s2013> i was able to use xrandr to get it working but it didnt persist
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> s2013: for persistence you need to generate a xorg.conf
[18:27] <s2013> how do i do that
[18:27] <Ari-Yang> s2013: what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:27] <Ari-Yang> !xorg.conf
[18:27] <Ari-Yang> ^ s2013
[18:28] <jedimind> i need a magical all encompasing solution for imap / pop3 on ubuntu with email users (that arent system-level) and ideally a web interface to add/remove email accounts. any suggestions?
[18:28] <s2013> k thanks ill look at it
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> s2013: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config is a good starting point too
[18:28] <intrader> Ari-Yang, I have a 12.04 ISO, is it for lts?
[18:29] <s2013> thanks
[18:29] <Ari-Yang> intrader: 12.04 is LTS....
[18:29] <paulus68> is there a program available for file decryption?
[18:29] <Ari-Yang> !12.04 > intrader
[18:29] <Ari-Yang> !12.04
[18:29] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks
[18:29] <Ari-Yang> intrader: I recommend you install 12.04.3
[18:31] <intrader> Ari-Yang, where do I get 12.04.3 (i have not noticed the .x before)
[18:31] <hallagulla> i was giving command chmod -R 777 ./  but instead i accedantly did chmod -R 777 /  for just one or two seconds
[18:31] <Ari-Yang> intrader: did you even bother checking the link ubottu has in the resposne to !12.04 trigger?
[18:32] <hallagulla> it effected /usr directory only (i guess)
[18:32] <intrader> Ari-Yang, yes, but I must have missed the .x
[18:32] <hallagulla> now my sudo command is not working..can i revert back old permissions for /usr directory and its files? or my system is broke?
[18:34] <Quinto> hi, i need libusb 1.0.16 which is apt package?
[18:34] <hallagulla> can someonehelp me?
[18:34] <TalkingMuffin> hallagulla: You're pretty much out of luck.  A reinstall is your best bet.
[18:34] <paulus68> is there a program available for file encryption
[18:35] <hallagulla> okay
[18:35] <tsimpson> Quinto: you asked that already
[18:35] <reisio> paulus68: so many
[18:35] <Quinto> yes but i have a problem
[18:35] <Quinto> my library is 1.0.0
[18:35] <Quinto> and i need 1.0.16 for use some function in new version
[18:36] <intrader> Ari-Yang, what did you mean with the .x in 12.04.3
[18:36] <paulus68> reisio: I know there are a lot of possible programs available however I need one which is easy and when possible to do on the fly
[18:36] <hallagulla> TalkingMuffin: i did chmod -R 755 /usr   and sudo is working again..let us see how far i go
[18:36] <reisio> paulus68: on the fly?
[18:36] <silidan1> hi, where can i download a safe super grub disk? all i found so far is a virus infected one on sourceforge
[18:36] <reisio> silidan1: what do you need super grub disk for?
[18:36] <paulus68> reisio: if possible :p
[18:36] <reisio> paulus68: meaning what
[18:37] <silidan1> reisio: a friend of mine fucked his boot manager
[18:37] <reisio> silidan1: for Ubuntu?
[18:37] <paulus68> reisio: well that for instance when I close the file it encrypts directly
[18:37] <reisio> paulus68: ah
[18:37] <Quinto> tsimpson: do you can help me?
[18:37] <paulus68> reisio: but if this is not possible I'm not to lazy to use terminal or gui
[18:37] <silidan1> well he had win7 and ubunut paralell install then had the bright idea to delete the whole linux partition from windows and reboot#
[18:38] <reisio> paulus68: I don't know, you could maybe use 7z
[18:38] <reisio> paulus68: I think encfs would be less awful in the long run
[18:38] <silidan1> so all that can be saved now is his windows install
[18:39] <ripthejacker> !LTS
[18:39] <tsimpson> Quinto: libusb-1.0-0 and libusb-1.0-0-dev
[18:39] <FiremanEd> paulus68: Might want to look at TrueCrypt
[18:39] <paulus68> reisio: 7z is just compression I use already truecrypt but I use that mostly for creating virtual drives
[18:39] <reisio> silidan1: Windows install media would be good for that, see #windows
[18:39] <Quinto> tsimpson: i have already download it with sudo apt-get install
[18:39] <reisio> paulus68: no 7z does encryption as well
[18:40] <Quinto> but i need 1.0.16
[18:40] <paulus68> FiremanEd: I'm not sure if  truecrypt can encrypt files only
[18:40] <paulus68> reisio: Ok wasn't aware of that option with 7z
[18:40] <silidan1> reisio: dunno if it will, he said repair didnt work... i dont know shit about that one, i once had a super grub disk, but cant find it, id prefer the supergrub way...
[18:40] <Quinto> tsimpson: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~jwrdegoede/libusb-reference/group__hotplug.html#ga556d598ca379618a41bbec3597f55dcf
[18:40] <intrader> Ari-Yang, what did you mean with the .x in 12.04.3 - ubottu does not specify 12.04.3
[18:40] <Quinto> do you can view and read : Since version 1.0.16, LIBUSBX_API_VERSION >= 0x01000102.
[18:41] <Quinto> i have error infact in my software
[18:41] <reisio> silidan1: doesn't make any sense to use it for that, but what makes you think it has viruses?
[18:41] <kardan> What could be the reason that my screenshot of mplayer is just blue?
[18:41] <kardan> Maybe this is related: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files
[18:41] <silidan1> because when i booted from this cd it started deleting stuff on my harddrives and wasnt too shy to tell me about it
[18:41] <howefield> intrader: 12.04.3 is the latest point release in the LTS series
[18:41] <silidan1> i got the image from: http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/
[18:42] <kardan> ~/lc
[18:42] <reisio> kardan: try using glc
[18:43] <intrader> howfield, where do I get it? I have the original .iso for 12.04
[18:43] <sjmikem> Anyone know why my status bar keeps freezing in SS?
[18:43] <sjmikem> Clock update stops, can't click on any items in it
[18:43] <howefield> intrader: you can use that and updating will mean that you end up on 12.04.3 with the 3.2 kernel
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem  probably this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1228360
[18:44] <tsimpson> Quinto: 1.0.16 is only available in saucy
[18:45] <Quinto> tsimpson: saucy?
[18:45] <howefield> intrader: 12.04.3 is 12.04 with all the updates since 12.04 was released, except installing from that will give you the 3.8 (?) kernel
[18:45] <tsimpson> Quinto: 13.10
[18:45] <kostkon> Quinto, codename for 13.10
[18:45] <Quinto> ubuntu 13.10?
[18:45] <kostkon> Quinto, yes
[18:45] <Quinto> ah
[18:45] <kardan> reisio: which package is this? Could not find it with dpkg -S bin/glc
[18:45] <lmat> I'm trying to set up an ssh environment for a user on a server, but it's not quite working.
[18:46] <intrader> howefield, so I best download; thanks
[18:46] <lmat> After the user puts in his password, he gets "Connection closed"
[18:46] <lmat> I think I have the server set up properly
[18:46] <lmat> Lord knows I've tried.
[18:46] <Quinto> oh no!
[18:46] <lmat> in passwd, the user is set for /usr/bin/sftp  shell.
[18:47] <howefield> intrader: yes, also if you plan on trying 13.10 again, I'd recommend taking an image of your install with something like Clonezilla, then when you break your install, it is an easy matter to get back to your starting point, or of course dual boot :)
[18:47] <sjmikem> MonkeyDust: Mine is a little different.  The clock was there, was working fine.  Then suddenly froze.  It's visible, but not updating.
[18:47] <lmat> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I have Match group groupname    ChrootDirectory /mnt
[18:47] <sjmikem> Also can't click on anything else in status bar
[18:47] <lmat> mnt is owned by root:root.
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem  yeah, it must be related to the reported bug
[18:47] <reisio> kardan: I'm not sure it's in any repos, actually
[18:48] <tsimpson> lmat: sftp is for non-interactive file transfer, not a login shell
[18:48] <reisio> kardan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970105
[18:48] <lmat> tsimpson: oh.
[18:48] <lmat> tsimpson: um.. really ?
[18:48] <CatKiller> lmat: Yes, you can even use filezilla
[18:48] <sjmikem> MonkeyDust: killall unity-panel-service did not work for me.  Any suggestions for kicking the status bar back into working order?
[18:48] <tsimpson> lmat: yes, see man sftp
[18:48] <kardan> reisio: the problem is with gnome-screenshot, gpe-screenshot is fine BTW.
[18:48] <Quinto> tsimpson: but hotplaug is only from 1.0.16
[18:48] <lmat> tsimpson: "sftp is an interactive file transfer program"
[18:48] <Quinto> and i must develop a software
[18:48] <lmat> tsimpson: Oh, so I should leave his shell as bash or whatever ?
[18:49] <tsimpson> lmat: yes, I mean it's not an interactive shell
[18:49] <tsimpson> lmat: yeah, just bash is fine
[18:49] <Quinto> how i can do?
[18:49] <lmat> tsimpson: okay.
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem  no, i havent switched to 13.10 yes
[18:49] <tsimpson> Quinto: upgrade to saucy...
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> yet*
[18:49] <Quinto> tsimpson: i cant
[18:49] <Quinto> i have a beagle board
[18:49] <reisio> kardan: no problem at all, then, is it? :p
[18:49] <kardan> reisio: thanks!
[18:49] <silidan1> reisio: i used the image file http://sourceforge.net/projects/supergrub.berlios/files/super_grub_disk_0.9800.iso , try it in virtualbox, youll see, i made the mistake to use it on my pc first, it deleted some files before i could reset
[18:49] <tsimpson> Quinto: the other option is trying to compile it yourself
[18:50] <kardan> will try glc anyway :)
[18:50] <reisio> silidan1: I don't have to try it, I can scan it with a virus scanner
[18:50] <Quinto> tsimpson: what?
[18:50] <lmat> tsimpson: Well, I changed the shell to bash, and I use  sftp -P port user@server  and it connects just fine. When I pwd, it shows /home/user (rather than /mnt)
[18:50] <Ari-Yang> [14:43:15] <intrader> howfield, where do I get it? I have the original .iso for 12.04v ---> Like I said before, you obviously didn't read nor check out the link ubottu gave you otherwise you wouldn't be asking that question.
[18:50] <tsimpson> Quinto: compiling libusb locally
[18:50] <CatKiller> good luck with that ;)
[18:50] <lmat> tsimpson: Perhaps it's not matching?  I have "Match group groupname" in sshd_config, but how do I tell if it's matching?
[18:50] <reisio> silidan1: pretty sure sf.net distributing virus-laden files is unheard of, though
[18:50] <Quinto> tsimpson: what do you want say me?
[18:51] <silidan1> reisio: dunno, but the files that got mentioned are gone
[18:51] <reisio> silidan1: but again, it's the wrong tool for the job anyways, so that it does something strange is no surprise
[18:51] <tsimpson> lmat: perhaps there's something useful in /var/log/auth.log
[18:51] <silidan1> reisio: actually i picked it cause it was said i can repair mbr with ti...
[18:52] <trupheenix> hello anyone here who can help me with a postfix setup issue?
[18:52] <Quinto> do you say compile libusb on ubuntu on beagle board?
[18:52] <tsimpson> Quinto: if you can't upgrade to saucy, and you must have 1.0.16, then you'll have to download the source code for libusb and compile it yourself
[18:52] <reisio> silidan1: maybe so, but the correct tool to fix Windows' booter is a Windows install image
[18:52] <Quinto> tsimpson: but work?
[18:53] <tsimpson> Quinto: I don't know
[18:53] <lmat> tsimpson: Nothing. accepted password, sshd:session... "subsystem request for sftp by user"
[18:54] <compdoc> trupheenix, will another, easier to use mail transport agent work? or does it have to be postfix?
[18:54] <silidan1> reisio: ok, gonna try it that way then
[18:54] <Pavol> Hello , somebody who recording on ubuntu guitar ?
[18:54] <lmat> tsimpson: The maddening thing is that I set this up on a local virtual machine and it works just fine.
[18:55] <trupheenix> compdoc, i don't know maybe you can suggest
[18:56] <tsimpson> lmat: if you set chroot it'll still show /home/user, but it'll be /mnt/home/user on the system. does that sound plausible to you?
[18:56] <lmat> tsimpson: yes it does, Thanks so much. I'll take a look.
[18:56] <lmat> tsimpson: (of course /mnt/home doesn't exist, but I'll go with it)
[18:56] <compdoc> trupheenix, well, you might need to remove postfix first. But I love nullmailer. you just tell it the name of your pc, and the name/address of your mail server, and boom! you can send mails
[18:57] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone?
[18:57] <trupheenix> compdoc, I need to receive mails as well
[18:57] <lmat> tsimpson: No, that doesn't work.   cd ../../  then ls shows bin boot cdrom, etc.
[18:57] <lmat> tsimpson: I'm really thinking it's not matching.
[18:57] <compdoc> trupheenix, thats a function of your email client. you sure you need postfix?
[18:57] <tsimpson> lmat: sounds like it
[18:57] <lmat> tsimpson: back to duckduck
[18:58] <trupheenix> compdoc, let me explain in more detail
[18:58] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone? - have now opened the link, and indeed the .x is clear
[18:58] <trupheenix> compdoc, I am trying to set up postfix on my application server; so that the application can send emails to users in my domain.
[18:58] <compdoc> trupheenix, I use nullmailer so my ubuntu servers can send informational emails to me
[18:58] <trupheenix> compdoc, the application also would require it's own user id and pop support.
[18:58] <trupheenix> compdoc, ok
[18:59] <compdoc> I could use postfix, but its too difficult for me to set up
[18:59] <trupheenix> compdoc, ok
[18:59] <trupheenix> compdoc, so does nullmailer want to use a relay to send e-mails?
[19:00] <compdoc> trupheenix, it uses an email server to send. either local or romote
[19:00] <compdoc> remote
[19:01] <trupheenix> compdoc, ok
[19:01] <compdoc> do you have your own email server?
[19:01] <trupheenix> compdoc, does it have user management? like login with password?
[19:01] <compdoc> trupheenix, no, its just an agent. its not an email server
[19:01] <trupheenix> compdoc, ah...
[19:02] <trupheenix> compdoc, I require an e-mail server
[19:02] <compdoc> what do you use for emails now?
[19:04] <streulma> hello Ubuntu people :)
[19:04] <compdoc> Postfix is a free and open-source mail transfer agent (MTA) that routes and delivers electronic mail  <- which is the same as nullmailer. I dont think postfix is an email server if used by itself
[19:04] <trupheenix> compdoc, ok
[19:04] <trupheenix> compdoc, right now i use Google Apps for e-mails
[19:05] <streulma> trupheenix compdoc https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[19:05] <streulma> this is what I use for mailserver
[19:05] <trupheenix> compdoc, postfix works fine. it sends out e0mails to anyother domain except my own. :(
[19:05] <compdoc> yeah, thats what its for
[19:06] <trupheenix> compdoc, ok I am using dovecot behind postfix
[19:06] <streulma> trupheenix: use my tutorial ?
[19:06] <nightdrever> nstalled Xubuntu which also installed xfce how do i remove them and THIR packages?
[19:06] <trupheenix> streulma, i using postgresql instead of mysql
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nightdrever  what's thir?
[19:07] <nightdrever> thier sorry
[19:07] <Ari-Yang> [14:58:18] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for your help - why do you take such a tone? - have now opened the link, and indeed the .x is clear ---> You are welcome. Excuse the "tone" but I just don't like bothering with people that don't even think or ask for answers when it's right there in front of them, in this case you clicking on that link :|
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, what release and end goal?
[19:08] <nightdrever> 12.04 ubuntu install xunbutu too so i could select at log in
[19:08] <bazhang> !puregnome | nightdrever
[19:09] <trupheenix> streulma, suppose the user is not on my postfix user table how do i send e-mail to him? the email id is valid.
[19:09] <brokedown> hi
[19:09] <nightdrever> thanks ill try
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, you want xubuntu and ubuntu right? xfce is part of the xubuntu base.
[19:09] <nightdrever> i dont want them i just use ubuntu
[19:09] <reisio> brokedown: hi
[19:10] <streulma> trupheenix: don't understand
[19:10] <trupheenix> streulma, let me explain
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Ah, reead your posts it does not say that.
[19:10] <trupheenix> streulma, so i have setup postfix+dovecot on my server at mydomain.com so that my web application can use it to send e-mails to users on my domain.
[19:10] <trupheenix> streulma, but the users on my domain have their accounts on a different mail server altogether.
[19:11] <brokedown> how do you navigate by keyboard between a virtualhost guest (at fullscreen on one monitor) and the ubuntu host running in both monitors?
[19:11] <nightdrever> wille-nilee    so is http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu  safe? and ill still have my normal ubuntu?
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Yeah excellent removal lists.
[19:11] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for 'sort of excuse' - the linke should says 12.04.3 to avoid clicking the link.
[19:12] <nightdrever> Reading state information... Done
[19:12] <nightdrever> E: Unable to locate package fonts-lyx
[19:12] <nightdrever> E: Unable to locate package libxfce4ui-utils
[19:12] <nightdrever> E: Unable to locate package libxfce4util6
[19:12] <nightdrever> E: Unable to locate package xbrlapi
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Be sure you are using the correct release is all, and it is what you want as far as its description.
[19:12] <trupheenix> streulma, so when I try to send e-mail to my users using postfix, postfix refuses to do so because those user ids are not in the user table of the postgresql db.
[19:13] <nightdrever> ok brb
[19:13] <streulma> trupheenix: then tyou need a send mail only server?
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> heh the bots link is 12.10, gotta check
[19:14] <trupheenix> streulma, need to receive mails as well
[19:14] <Ari-Yang> [15:11:45] <intrader> Ari-Yang, thanks for 'sort of excuse' - the linke should says 12.04.3 to avoid clicking the link. ---> what? ._.
[19:15] <lmat> tsimpson: Does sshd automatically re-read the /etc/sshd_config ?
[19:15] <howefield> brokedown: have you tried using the Right Ctrl key to move between the two ?
[19:15] <streulma> trupheenix: you cannot receive mail on 1 server and other server at the same time, you can only have 1 mx-server once
[19:16] <trupheenix> streulma, nope. you can have multiple delivery apparently.
[19:16] <intrader> Ari-Yang, the text for the link (as in html <a>)
[19:18] <intrader> Ari-Yang, a constructive suggesting is beyond your current ugly mood
[19:18] <lmat> After modifying /etc/ssh/sshd_config, do I have to tell sshd to re-read the configuration ?
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> !12.04
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> intrader: there are links in that trigger, you didn't bother exploring
[19:19] <Ari-Yang> intrader: quit trying to justify your stupidity.
[19:19] <lmat> was that a netsplit (recovery) or did I just have a personal network problem ?
[19:19] <Ari-Yang> now, moving on~
[19:19] <howefield> Ari-Yang: why are you being obnoxious ? cut him/her some slack..
[19:21] <Ari-Yang> howefield: I'm not being obnoxious; I already told intrader why I don't bother helping those who want answers when it's right in front of them.
[19:21] <Ari-Yang> he's the one who continues to respond to me :|
[19:22] <intrader> Ari-Yang, learn to handle your answer helpfully and courteously. It is not usual to run into someone in your kind of mood
[19:23] <howefield> Ari-Yang: watch your blood pressure, ;-) you do have a choice in what you respond to... anyway I'm off for dinner. Have a good one :)
[19:23] <intrader> Ari-Yang, you helped -------> THANKS
[19:23] <Ari-Yang> howefield: you too~
[19:24] <lmat> tsimpson: dude, I think the problem was that sshd wasn't reading my freaking sshd_config
[19:24] <intrader> howefield, thanks to you too - I am downloading 12.04.3
[19:24] <lmat> tsimpson: Be sure the next time you help some one, have them do a little sudo service ssh restart !! ^_^
[19:25] <Ari-Yang> intrader: noted; It's also not usual to run into someone with your level of curiosity and intelligence. You're welcome, happy to help~
[19:26] <intrader> Ari-Yang, enough - you evidently have a bad day
[19:26] <Ari-Yang> intrader: Nah, my day has been good so far~ If you don't want anymore response for me, I suggest you don't reply to me :3
[19:31] <Dudytz> hi all! I have a Ubuntu 13.10 installation and my login user is the one created in the standard installation. I have been created a new user and the only group created is the group with the same same of the user. What's the recomended groups to add the user to permit all the users tasks like mount SD cards, use the camera, ecc ... where can I find information related of this configuration?
[19:32] <nightdrever> hi im on ubuntu 12.04 and i get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 27 not upgraded.
[19:32] <nightdrever> how do i fix?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Sometimes there are partial upgrades, this is most likely do to the packages not be in yet (dependencies) there are many independent teams.
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> being*
[19:33] <Dudytz> anyone?
[19:33] <nightdrever> wildee i added sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[19:33] <nightdrever> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nautilus
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Usually this resolves it self within a day or to, being specific though here really helps.
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | nightdrever
[19:34] <nadeem> heeey
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> hoooo
[19:35] <nadeem> do anyone have a problem with ubuntu after last night updates?
[19:35] <nightdrever> ok how do i remove sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[19:35] <Dudytz> ok .. thanks all .. no support
[19:35] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever: sudo apt-add-repository --remove ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, 4 release right now can you like give details, and 1000's of package's.
[19:36] <nadeem> it installed like 171 update
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | nightdrever
[19:36] <nadeem> then fire fox stopped working
[19:36] <nightdrever> thanks
[19:36] <Ari-Yang> nightdrever: if you want to purge the ppa and revert to ubuntu's own packages then ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[19:36] <nadeem> and i close it stay on my screen
[19:36] <nadeem> and sotware manager the same
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, Oh the 171 install and firefox stops working, sounds like a bewitching.
[19:37] <nadeem> i cant even use the thing that im using my windows again
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> oh no not windows
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:37] <nadeem> yeah!!!
[19:37] <nadeem> its all errors that i have to keep logg in and out
[19:38] <nadeem> to remove the screen that stuck on my screen
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, sounds like a partial update, did you use the update manager?
[19:38] <nadeem> yeah it was a partial update
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, Bad, never run partials.
[19:39] <nadeem> i cant use the update manger anymore
[19:39] <nadeem> so what i have to do ?
[19:39] <nadeem> im new to ubuntu
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, You have missing dependencies, you can try and get it to regroup by waiting.
[19:40] <nadeem> but the update manger isnt working
[19:40] <nadeem> so how much i should wait
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> we all do this at least once unless warned it seems
[19:40] <lmat> nadeem: um... did you use the console?
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, Hard to say if it will regroup to be honest, usually this if you had waited resolves it self rather soon.
[19:41] <lmat> nadeem: run   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  ?
[19:41] <lmat> nadeem: Welcome to Ubuntu! Have you used linux much before ?
[19:41] <nadeem> nop
[19:41] <nadeem> no experiance what so ever
[19:41] <lmat> nadeem: How old are you ? And what systems have you used before ?
[19:41] <lmat> nadeem: Ahh, new to computing ?
[19:41] <nadeem> 29
[19:42] <nadeem> 12.04 lts i guess
[19:42] <nadeem> my major was information technology
[19:42] <nadeem> but never used linux
[19:42] <lmat> nadeem: ahh, nice. So you have a clue :)
[19:42] <nadeem> yeah somtimes
[19:42] <lmat> nadeem: Go ahead and run the command I gave above (with && in it), and see what you get ?
[19:42] <nadeem> ok
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> nadeem, Hmm information tech, and it did not occur to google partial upgrade ubuntu. ;)
[19:43] <nadeem> ill get back to u on that one
[19:43] <lmat> haha
[19:43] <lmat> nadeem: I don't use the GUI for things like updates, etc. and I would guess it's 1) more reliable and 2) more informative
[19:43] <nadeem> naaa i thought ubuntu only do the good stuff and i trusted it
[19:43] <ubukou> anyone knows how to maximize my fps on gaming in ubuntu .. im running gtx 650 and i play with playonlinux. the game im trying to play is League of legends...
[19:43] <ubukou> any tips?
[19:44] <nadeem> ubuntu reputation stopped me from google
[19:44] <profligacy> Ha, what?
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> google runs on open source
[19:45] <lmat> ubukou: new graphics card ?
[19:45] <Lope> I want to install kvm on ubuntu, but when I type which kvm it says kvm not found.
[19:46] <ubukou> lmat, yes.. got an nvidia hoping i could use linux as my only desktop
[19:46] <lmat> ubukou: Good idea. What problems are you having ?
[19:47] <ubukou> lmat, well lol runs well. but i cant get past 30 fps and medium quality
[19:47] <lmat> ubukou: ahh, that's a problem :)
[19:47] <ubukou> lmat, i know its "good" but in a competitive game its not...
[19:48] <lmat> ubukou: I have no idea. I barely use something more graphically featured than a framebuffer :o
[19:48] <ubukou> lmat, thanks anyway, i ll keep tinkering..
[19:49] <yeyeman> what is a better version of pidgin?
[19:49] <yeyeman> as in a better program
[19:49] <lmat> ubukou: Don't neglect duckduckgo :)
[19:49] <lmat> yeyeman: What does pidgin do ?
[19:49] <lmat> yeyeman: Microsoft Lync ?
[19:49] <lmat> hahahahahaha!!
[19:49]  * lmat is soooo funny
[19:49] <yeyeman> HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
[19:50] <ubukou> lmat,  i ll give it a go... i used it for some time but i got a bit tired for some results..
[19:50] <yeyeman> good one man!!!
[19:50] <lmat> ubukou: I understand. You're sure your computer can do better ?
[19:50] <lmat> yeyeman: ^_^
[19:51] <profligacy> What is the best way to get practical experience programming?
[19:51] <ubukou> lmat,  well its a really good card...so..
[19:51] <reisio> profligacy: by programming
[19:51] <lmat> ubukou: And the rest of the system ?
[19:51] <profligacy> What is a good small-scale project that I can do just to familiarize myself with different components?
[19:51] <reisio> profligacy: any particular language/s?
[19:51] <lmat> profligacy: Are you trying to learn a language, or a framework,.. or OS ?
[19:52] <profligacy> reisio: Java or C#
[19:52] <lmat> profligacy: Or technology
[19:52] <reisio> ew
[19:52] <lmat> profligacy: ahh
[19:52] <ubukou> lmat, quad core intel, 6 gigs ram plenty of watts... not convinced i cant do better
[19:52] <lmat> profligacy: Those are very different. What are you wanting?
[19:52] <lmat> ubukou: Sure. That sounds fine. (plenty of watts, really? :P)
[19:53] <profligacy> Just want to do be proficient, contribute on gitub projects, etc.
[19:53] <lmat> profligacy: Are you wanting to be a professional programmer ? Or just explore the idea /
[19:53] <profligacy> lmat: Professional
[19:53] <lmat> profligacy: ah, good idea :) Have you ever written a java programmer ?
[19:53] <lmat> s/programmer/program
[19:53] <profligacy> lmat: Nothing exciting, no.
[19:53] <profligacy> lmat: Just standard, undergrad assignments.
[19:53] <lmat> profligacy: The first thing I think you need to do is learn how to use a computer. This is overlooked by *way* too many people. Don't neglect this part of learning how to program.
[19:54] <lmat> profligacy: Learn how to use the shell (and of course, a good way to do that is to use it to write programs!)
[19:54] <lmat> profligacy: So you know how to  javac and  java -cp, etc.
[19:54] <nyjkkyjn> Good evening to all.. Does anyone know if there is a way to change gdm background and font..?
[19:54] <subterfuge> using cp I want to copy all files in one dir in to another dir (for a backup) -- I want to follow all links even symbolic and copy all data in all sub dir.  I don't want it to delete anything anywhere, if any file name exsist more than once I want it to amend the new file with something line .001 and so on...   I am reading the man file for cp and I have googled but i am a little lost on the arguments and how they work together -- can anyone help?
[19:54] <ubukou> lmat, not sure if underpowering a GPU can reduce the performance hahahhahaha.. nice way to put it tho, right????
[19:55] <profligacy> lmat: This is exactly the type of advice I need.
[19:55] <lmat> ubukou: ahh, watts going to your cpu/gpu, gotcha :)
[19:55] <profligacy> lmat: Can the shell function as an IDE, or?
[19:55] <lmat> profligacy: :)
[19:55] <lmat> profligacy: Of course.
[19:55] <lmat> profligacy: That's what I use for my IDE.
[19:55] <lmat> profligacy: (I program java)
[19:55] <reisio> subterfuge: so you want files in subdirectories into a new dir with no subdirectories?
[19:55] <lmat> profligacy: Many use eclipse or whatever, but learn to use the shell (at least be able to)
[19:55] <profligacy> Do you know of any resources that I can use to learn how to be productive using shell?
[19:56] <lmat> subterfuge: I've heard that the best way to do this is with tar. duckduckgo will show you.
[19:56] <nightdrever> hi again, how do i disable some startup items?
[19:56] <lmat> profligacy: You can just start using the shell, but you'll want to do something in the shell.
[19:56] <subterfuge> reisio: no I want to keep the directories and subdirectories intact
[19:56] <profligacy> lmat: Who do you work for, anyone I might know?
[19:57] <lmat> profligacy: That something should be programming since you want to learn to program :) Just realize that you're not *just* learning programming, but you're learning shell/filesystems , too.
[19:57] <lmat> profligacy: Sure: Indiana University.
[19:57] <profligacy> lmat: I underastand, but I just want to experiment and learn, perhaps heuristically
[19:57] <lmat> profligacy: If you want to get good at Java, write a spring app (from scratch) to learn how it work.s
[19:57] <lmat> profligacy: Everyone uses spring to manage their Java.
[19:58] <lmat> profligacy: Write the build script in shell (and the deploy script, too)
[19:58] <lmat> profligacy: For instance,   find src -name '*.java' -exec javac -cp "$cp" -d dest {} \;
[19:58] <lmat> profligacy: :)
[19:59] <profligacy> Thanks lmat :)
[19:59] <lmat> profligacy: Then you'll learn shell (you'll have to learn the find command, bash substitutions, quoting, and how to avoid globs to understand this example), java, and Spring all at the same time :)
[19:59] <lmat> profligacy: yo.
[19:59] <lmat> profligacy: the folks in #bash are masters.
[19:59] <lmat> profligacy: If a little short-fused
[20:00] <genii-o-lantern> profligacy , lmat .. Please remember this channel is for Ubuntu support. For programming, you might want to find a channel that's appropriate for the language you wish to use :)
[20:00] <profligacy> Thanks lmat
[20:01] <andreb> hi all
[20:01] <profligacy> My fault genii-o-lantern
[20:01] <lmat> genii-o-lantern: Thanks.
[20:01] <andreb> i have mounted a network folder on a windows machine using dolphin .... how can i navigate to that share in the konsole ?
[20:02] <genii-o-lantern> During slow times it's not so bad for a bit, but overall it's better to just find the best channel for the questions you may have, etc
[20:03] <nightdrever> is there away to auto hide 'taskbar' at top of screen?
[20:03] <genii-o-lantern> andreb: just: mount     ...should tell you where the folder is mounted at, then you can do the cd  <directory-name-where-its-mounted>
[20:04] <andreb> geni : i am not seeing it there...
[20:05] <andreb> i added it in dolphin under network
[20:05] <nightdrever> i dont mean the launcher just the bar at top of screen with time etc on it.....can i auto hide it?
[20:06] <genii-o-lantern> andreb: So you used some URL like:  smb://remote-machinename-or-ip/sharename   ?
[20:08] <andreb> geni : i just used the gui in dolphin to add it
[20:10] <andreb> rm
[20:11] <genii-o-lantern> andreb: It might not actually be mounted then at the moment. If you want to access those types of shares from command-line, may want to look at the "Connecting using CIFS" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[20:11] <andreb> geni : this is the command i have used/tried via command line to add the share from console : "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=bob //192.168.10.5/bob /media/samba
[20:11] <andreb> i can see and read teh folder.. but cant write to it :(
[20:12] <hornypsycho> guys
[20:13] <hornypsycho> i need help guys
[20:13] <genii-o-lantern> andreb: Sounds like the wherever the share is, the owner of the files and directories there is a different user than the one you are connecting with (or different group)
[20:13] <hornypsycho> i'm using xubuntu with 13.10
[20:13] <hornypsycho> and the xfce4-power-manager isn't working
[20:14] <ceed^> Is there a way to get an up arrow button to move up one level in the file manager in Ubuntu?
[20:16] <hornypsycho> anyone?
[20:16] <genii-o-lantern> hornypsycho: You're probably best to enquire in the #xubuntu channel, they are sure to know more than most of the helpers in here
[20:17] <hornypsycho> thanks @genni-o-lantern
[20:18] <TauNeutrino> hey guys
[20:18] <TauNeutrino> I need to do a freaking powerpoint presentation
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> How can I do this in freaking Ubuntu
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> ?
[20:19] <reisio> TauNeutrino: with freaking LibreOffice
[20:19] <hornypsycho> install windows el o el
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> I searched google and found this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Datenmigration/Powerpoint
[20:19] <reisio> lolz
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> with freaking libreoffice
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> but that's too much details
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> hm
[20:19] <TauNeutrino> no lo sucks
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> reisio, beat me to it, lol. did not notice.
[20:20] <reisio> it does suck, just not compared to whatever you're comparing it to :p
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> lol
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> to powerpoint
[20:20] <reisio> right, that
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> oh ok
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> damn I hate linux
[20:20] <reisio> ikr
[20:20] <reisio> I do, too
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> but I can't deinstall it
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> I'm cursed
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> ok wait
[20:20] <TauNeutrino> any similar software like powerpoint?
[20:21] <xangua> libreoffice
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> NO
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> another
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> are you like in hell TauNeutrino is this satans will
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> what?
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> cursed
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> yes
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> ah say hi I will be by soon
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> ok
[20:21] <TauNeutrino> wait
[20:22] <trijntje> TauNeutrino: anything specific wrong with libreoffice?
[20:22] <TauNeutrino> come on
[20:22] <TauNeutrino> it's a text program
[20:22] <TauNeutrino> like word
[20:22] <trijntje> lol
[20:22] <trijntje> use libreoffice impress
[20:22] <TauNeutrino> impress? As if it could impress me
[20:22] <reisio> ahahahhaha
[20:22] <bekks> trijntje: For creating slides instead of text?
[20:22] <reisio> classic
[20:22] <xangua> TauNeutrino: there is softmaker office, like 60 bucks
[20:22] <TauNeutrino> no
[20:23] <TauNeutrino> I want everything free in live
[20:23] <trijntje> TauNeutrino: use the program 'Libreoffice Impress' to make presentations, not 'Libreoffice writer', which is like word
[20:24] <TauNeutrino> Ah ok, I see the Libreoffice Impress icon on the left screen
[20:24] <xangua> ......
[20:24] <bekks> TauNeutrino: Use Impress if you want to create slides...
[20:25] <TauNeutrino> ok good, I'll try it, thanks :)
[20:25] <TauNeutrino> gee it looks similar to pp
[20:25] <TauNeutrino> great, good
[20:28] <ravenzz> hello there
[20:28] <trijntje> hi ravenzz
[20:28] <reisio> 'lo
[20:28] <ravenzz> hi trijntje
[20:28] <ravenzz> resio
[20:31] <Oxymoron> Does someone here use plex on Ubuntu?
[20:32] <dimitrilc> What is a good Linux-based centralized backup solution for enterprise?
[20:33] <reisio> centralized?
[20:33] <b1001> do you guys know if its possible to pause/shutdown/poweroff a JUJU installation on localhost?
[20:33] <bekks> dimitrilc: bacula, areca, backuppc
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Oxymoron, They seem to have a forum, have you looked for a IRC channel?
[20:34] <Lope> hi I think my ubuntu 13.04 is missing the repository keys for raring http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Raring_Repositories#Add_repository_keys
[20:34] <Lope> can you plz tell me what path to use to re-add them
[20:35] <genii-o-lantern> Oxymoron: They do seem to have a channel with about 70-90 users in it at #plex
[20:35] <Oxymoron> wilee-nilee: Found one, but this seems to be some kind of ext4 or Ubuntu permissions error, as always. Frreaking HATE permissions in Linux, worst implementation ever. Soon I do chmod 777 / to open up everything, so all software can access everything.
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> yay more freaking
[20:36] <xangua> Lope: !gpgerr
[20:36] <xangua> tried the 'standard ones'¿
[20:36] <xangua> !gpgerr
[20:36] <Lope> I saw a command like sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 3B4FE6ACC0B21F32
[20:36] <Lope> but I dunno what code to use.
[20:36] <bekks> Lope: then read what ubottu just said ;)
[20:37] <Lope> cool, we wrote at the same time sort of.
[20:37] <Lope> so is that "standard repo" for raring?
[20:37] <tirengarfio> my upgrading to 13.10 has stopeed..
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Lope, a custom repo?
[20:37] <Lope> I'm running ubuntu 13.04
[20:38] <Lope> but I've upgraded my kernel to 3.11.6
[20:39] <Lope> I'm trying to install the apt package called dmidecode and apt says it can't be authenticated. I did apt-cache policy dmidecode Nd I see its coming from 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, Look for any hidden popups hiding.
[20:39] <pogiako> hello
[20:39] <automatik> can someone please help me to format my thumb drive. in the terminal under fdisk -l it tells me the drive is fat32 but is read only
[20:39] <pogiako> how do i run c app in terminal?
[20:39] <pogiako> via gedit
[20:40] <bekks> pogiako: write it in gedit, save it, compile it, run it.
[20:41] <Lope> xangua: okay I loaded that standard key you mentioned but still getting an authentication error.
[20:41] <pogiako> i compiled it via "gcc 'appname'" then trying to run a.out
[20:41] <pogiako> typing a.out but aint any good
[20:42] <bekks> "aint any good" means what?
[20:42] <pogiako> haha
[20:42] <pogiako> i mean
[20:42] <xbhya> what would be the best distro to try out on a convertible ultrabook (lenovo helix)?  Something that handles touch pretty well along with regular mouse/keyboard.
[20:42] <pogiako> it doesnt run
[20:42] <bekks> "doesnt run" means what?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> xbhya, Hmm, this is the ubuntu channel guess.
[20:42] <bekks> !details | pogiako
[20:42] <pogiako> http://bpaste.net/show/otxvGylXdUa24Y1ZpBhY/
[20:43] <tirengarfio> wilee-nilee, yes that is true, but the upgrading has crasheed, it has shown an message that it couldn't finish the upgrading..
[20:43] <pogiako> a.out: command not found
[20:44] <bekks> pogiako: run: "./a.out"
[20:44] <pogiako> then trying gcc with a.out,
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, Can you share it in a pastebin?
[20:44] <pogiako> a.out: file not recognized: File truncated
[20:44] <pogiako> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[20:44] <xbhya> haha, I guess I should be more specific.  Does ubuntu handle touch gestured scrolling pretty well?  I think that's the big issue I saw in my youtubing.  People were visibly having a lot of trouble grabbing the scroll bars with their index fingers.
[20:44] <tirengarfio> it has dissapeared, sorry
[20:44] <pogiako> omg
[20:44] <tirengarfio> i closed it..
[20:44] <pogiako> love yah bekks!
[20:44] <pogiako> mwah!
[20:44] <pogiako> hahahaa! thanks! ;)
[20:44] <FloodBot1> pogiako: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <melkor> Anybody here having an issue with nautilus consuming large amounts of CPU?
[20:44] <pogiako> sure sure ;)
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, This the download or install portion, and are you backed up?
[20:45] <tirengarfio> ?
[20:45] <tirengarfio> the upgrade to 13.10
[20:45] <tirengarfio> yes, I have backed up
[20:46] <Lope> where can I find the GPG keys for this repo? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, There is a portion when it is just downloading then it installs, does this make sense?
[20:47] <tirengarfio> it was installing
[20:48] <tirengarfio> im going to reboot im scared..
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, A crash in the download is less problematic than the install is all. Ah the install, on the few times I have done upgrades and had problems I have run this command. sudo apt-get -f install to restart the install in the upgrade or from a command line in the reboot.
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> sudo apt-get -f install
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> can I openly say upgrades suck. ;)
[20:52] <orangepick> does anyone use (ppa:ondrej/php5
[20:52] <orangepick> ) for php 5.4, is it safe to get code there?
[20:53] <daftykins> no idea how to verify the legitimacy of a PPA
[20:53] <reisio> legitimacy?
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Dressed as the queen of england for Halloween I say all you subjects do the time warp again, happy halloween.
[20:54] <orangepick> i don't want to download virus or malware :)
[20:54] <reisio> sure you do :)
[20:54] <orangepick> lol
[20:54] <reisio> oh actually
[20:54] <daftykins> reisio: yip that's the word i used! :P
[20:54] <reisio> if you're trying to use PHP
[20:54] <pogiako> do i still use return 0?
[20:54] <reisio> you actually do
[20:54] <pogiako> when i write c in gedit?
[20:55] <tirengarfio> I have rebooted, till now, no problem
[20:55] <reisio> 'cause PHP is all about making things insecure
[20:55] <pogiako> coz whenever i do, it doesnt work right in terminal lol
[20:55] <tirengarfio> Im on 13.10
[20:55] <pogiako> whats good in 13.10?
[20:55] <pogiako> compared to .04 btw?
[20:55] <daftykins> pogiako: the website has answers to such questions
[20:56] <bazhang> !notes
[20:57] <pogiako> i dont use 'return 0' to finish my c code
[20:57] <pogiako> is that fine?
[20:57] <pogiako> coz when i do put 'return 0', the app doesnt work
[20:58] <bekks> pogiako: You should ask a c language channel, since it isnt related to ubuntu.
[20:58] <pogiako> haha
[20:58] <bekks> pogiako: That was no joke.
[20:58] <pogiako> they were actually the ones who told me to go here
[20:58] <pogiako> they mightbe windows users'
[20:58] <pogiako> am just a jolly person ;)
[20:58] <bekks> pogiako: So in which channel did you ask?
[20:58] <pogiako> c
[20:59] <pogiako> then they told me wrong channel lol
[20:59] <pogiako> they might be using windows
[20:59] <bekks> pogiako: They told you to join this channel to learn how to execute a program you just compiled.
[20:59] <pogiako> lol no
[20:59] <pogiako> they told me to com here to get help
[21:00] <bekks> pogiako: You got help here - you learned how to execute a compiled program.
[21:00] <pogiako> yeah i did thanks ;)
[21:00] <pogiako> what am asking now is, do i need to type return 0?
[21:00] <bekks> pogiako: That has nothing to do with ubuntu support.
[21:01] <pogiako> lol ikr
[21:01] <cowbacon> !offtopic | pogiako
[21:01] <pogiako> back to c channel then ;)
[21:02] <hggdh> pogiako: but, to answer: no, you do not.
[21:02] <pogiako> cool ;)
[21:02] <pogiako> thanks
[21:02] <pogiako> wont that do something with memory?
[21:02] <bekks> No.
[21:02] <pogiako> coz return 0 tells c to stop right?
[21:02] <pogiako> so it jsut stops without retunr 0?
[21:02] <hggdh> pogiako: now you are really off-topic
[21:03] <pogiako> haha ok ill stop
[21:03] <hplc> whats the difference between /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
[21:03] <bekks> pogiako: Thank you.
[21:03] <reisio> hplc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random#Linux
[21:03] <hggdh> hplc: dev/random will only return if there is enough entropy to generate a new random value. /dev/urandom will *always* return, even with bad entropy
[21:04] <hplc> so urandom is not the one to use for making a encryption pad?
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, have you run a update to make sure you up to date?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> you're
[21:07] <sln> shankara
[21:09] <Duggy> d
[21:11] <Eth0R3> heyo
[21:11] <sln> Hi, everyone, Can I discuss problem with graphics here?
[21:12] <tirengarfio> wilee-nilee, I have tried to upgrade to 13.10 but it says im on the last version
[21:13] <k1l_> tirengarfio: please pastebin "lsb_release -a"
[21:13] <Fruckiwacki> Hello, is it possible to install Ubuntu with alternate cd on a existing harddrive that has LVM volumes on LUKS?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, try running sudo apt-get -f install
[21:14] <Ari-Yang> sln: yes, just state your problem...
[21:14] <sln> I am using precise 3rd service pack. It was working great from past 2 years, now, sometimes every new window appears blank and white in colour
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, which release the alternate has been changed to a net install in 12.10 I believe.
[21:15] <Ari-Yang> sln: you should also state what driver you are using and what gpu you have.
[21:15] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, it was some recent saucy-alternate-amd64.iso
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, Look at the the size is it about 30MIB?
[21:15] <sln> I am using atom 410 processor.
[21:15] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, ~700mb
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, Ah, hmm is this a canonical?
[21:16] <sln> Ari-yang: I am using Atom 410 processor.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, Is it ubuntu or lubuntu or another?
[21:17] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, oh - its lubuntu - just noticed
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, Is that what you want, I'm not sure on the actual question, just noticed the alternate reference is all, the net does not encrypt I believe
[21:19] <sln> Ari-yang : I don't know which GPU it has, I may be inbuilt  in the Atom processor.
[21:19] <sln> Ari-yang: If I guess I am using intel graphics driver.
[21:19] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, the situation is: I have 1 hdd which is fully encrypted via Luks, LVM is on top of it. Under Archlinux i created a logical volume for the Ubuntu installation.
[21:20] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, Starting the Ubuntu alternate installer it cannot find the logical volume because its under the decrypted cryptroot
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, I would assume this is possible, however get the right disc, and confirmation for what you want and need, all those tools I see here used. I would advise against encryption in general, but its a bit late for that now, lol. ;)
[21:21] <parduse> hi , i have sudo apt-get install pisg 'ed but cant find the pisg.cfg file anywahere on my pc
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, Be careful caling it a ubuntu alternate, it does not exist in that release.
[21:22] <duxb> Hey, ever since I upgraded to 13.10, my custom keyboard shortcuts, through the keyboard system properties dialog don't work, any ideas? Known bug?
[21:22] <trijntje> parduse: dpkg -L psig
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> duxb, You probably have to re do them, have you?
[21:23] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, oh ok. So what version to choose? Desktop Version? I guess its able to build a minimal system?
[21:23] <sln> Ari-Yang:  "jockey-text -l"  is not giving any aoutput
[21:23] <duxb> in 13.04, I'd have to reset them every time I restarted, since I upgraded I have completely removed and readded, still nothing.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, I'm not sure really, I was mainly concerned with accurate communication, I know nothing on this setup.
[21:24] <Chat7440> http://youthwealth.com/?myrefcode=1781 try this
[21:24] <Chat7440> Free money
[21:24] <duxb> die
[21:25] <trijntje> !ops Chat7440
[21:25] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, ok, i will start over with a 13.10 release .iso :)
[21:25] <parduse> ty trijntje
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, A net install the new alternative with ubuntu is a minimal if you want, however I don't know if it will encrypt, or be actually the best here.
[21:25] <trijntje> !ops | Chat7440
[21:25] <Chat7440> http://youthwealth.com/?myrefcode=1781 really works I'm doing it right now
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> mmm free money yipee
[21:25] <duxb> go away, and never come back Chat7440
[21:25] <Chat7440> Freeeeeeeeeee money no scam
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> tirengarfio, That command restart the upgrade?
[21:27] <freeleech> youtube-viewer seems to need a perl update. I can't seem to find it by googling it
[21:27] <duxb> any ideas on the keyboard shortcut thing?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> duxb, You might describe how you are assigning the keys, details rule here.
[21:28] <sln> I am using ubuntu 12.04.3 on an atom processor(410), Know, after using some after logging in every new windows appears white and blank. How to check which graphics driver I am using?
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> sln, lspci will name the hardware, you aware of a the nomodeset option.
[21:29] <sln> I tried "jockey-text -l" , but, got an error message.
[21:29] <pipsqueaker> Can anyone help me with this problem http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1pn41f/i_just_installed_ubuntu_on_my_macbook_pro_and_im/
[21:29] <pipsqueaker> Instaled Ubuntu on my Macbook Pro, wireless has been giving me trouble
[21:30] <pipsqueaker> If you could look at the reddit thread above and give me feedback, I'd love the help
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> !bcm | pipsqueaker
[21:30] <duxb> I'm using the system settings menu > keyboard > shortcuts > custom shortcuts > add, using a command that I've tested from terminal, and a binding of Super+Enter( keypad )
[21:30] <sln> wilee-nilee, sorry, I don't know nomodset option.
[21:31] <daftykins> !nomodeset | sln
[21:31] <pipsqueaker> ubottu what's the command to check wireless card model?
[21:31] <hays> pipsqueaker: do you have 4313 by chance and updated to saucy and things broke?
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | sln a low graphic boot
[21:31] <daftykins> pipsqueaker: lspci / lsusb
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[21:31] <pipsqueaker> Have you read it?
[21:31] <pipsqueaker> It's a wierd situation where wireless actually works
[21:32] <pipsqueaker> but all networks are hidden unless I connect to one
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> pipsqueaker, Your wifi should show if you run lspci in the cli
[21:32] <hays> to get my bcm4313 working i had to move to a newer kernel.. there was some regression in the 3.8 series kernels  and i think 3.9 and 3.10 also
[21:32] <pipsqueaker> it;s not a simple driver issue, give it a read will you?
[21:32] <pipsqueaker> Last time spamming the link:
[21:32] <pipsqueaker> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1pn41f/i_just_installed_ubuntu_on_my_macbook_pro_and_im/
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> pipsqueaker, Its rather uncommon to use a link this way.
[21:33] <pipsqueaker> why?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> pipsqueaker, we communicate the details on the channel is all.
[21:33] <pipsqueaker> I'm sorry
[21:33] <pipsqueaker> it's just that I would have liked a permanent place to have the solution stored
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> no biggie, just pushing it will get no where in general.
[21:33] <hays> lspci | grep -i bcm
[21:34] <sln> I entered "lspci" in the command line,
[21:34] <hays> pipsqueaker: lspci | grep -i bcm
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> sln, hit enter look for the wifi info
[21:35] <pipsqueaker> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4331
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> sln,er graphic doh
[21:35] <pipsqueaker> So just to get the details on this channel
[21:35] <pipsqueaker> I installed 12.04 on my macbook pro, wireless drivers were missing
[21:35] <pipsqueaker> googled it, typed in a few commands
[21:35] <pipsqueaker> to install drivers
[21:36] <pipsqueaker> rebooted, and none of networks showed up
[21:36] <hays> pipsqueaker: so you are using the b43 drivers?
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> pipsqueaker, sounds like hays may have some answers, not sure if apples are any different, but most use the bots link I sent you. although it seems to be working just everything is hidden.
[21:36] <pipsqueaker> I could connect to my home network by the "connect to hidden networks" submenu,
[21:36] <sln> wilee-nilee: ok. It says "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller"
[21:36] <pipsqueaker> when that happened, all the other ones showed up
[21:36] <ratsilva> portugal
[21:37] <ratsilva> help
[21:37] <pipsqueaker> wilee-nilee the networks were never hidden when I ran windows or Mac OSX on the same device
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> sln, generally intel stuff works, have you tweaked the desktop, say compiz...etc?
[21:37] <hays> pipsqueaker: are you using the b43 drivers
[21:38] <sln> wilee-nilee: yes.
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> pipsqueaker, It is rather unusual yes.
[21:38] <pipsqueaker> hays fwcutter-b43 and firmware-b43-installar?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> sln, Did you have a normal desktop at some point?
[21:38] <pipsqueaker> Using those
[21:38] <sln> wilee-nilee, Yes, It is working now also ,
[21:38] <hays> pipsqueaker: you are on 12.04?
[21:38] <pipsqueaker> Yes
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> sln, So fixed?
[21:38] <Chat8923> If u want to make money click this link, get some money just for sitting on your ass!! http://youthwealth.com/?myrefcode=987
[21:39] <hays> pipsqueaker: that sounds like the packages for 8 ans 10
[21:39] <kostkon> sln, you could try resetting unity/compiz
[21:39] <pipsqueaker> hays I followed instructions from this website http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/macbook-pro-wifiwireless-drivers-for.html
[21:39] <sln> <wilee-nilee: but, after running some time, every message box appears only white
[21:39] <sln> I could not reset unity.
[21:39] <kriskropd> does anyone know of a midi editor with a piano roll appearance (such as in fl studio or lmms or most midi editors), however is built on ncurses and runs in a bash shell?
[21:39] <duxb> can anybody set a keyboard shortcut in 13.10 and see if it works, just to see if it's a bug, or a problem with my settings?
[21:39] <pipsqueaker> hays: I followed instructions from this website http://www.techlw.com/2012/06/macbook-pro-wifiwireless-drivers-for.html
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> sln, seems the tweaking has done this can you detail all that out?
[21:40] <hays> pipsqueaker: try uninstalling thouse and install linux-firmware-nonfree
[21:40] <kostkon> sln, l'd say it's a problem with compiz
[21:40] <pipsqueaker> I've tried that
[21:40]  * wilee-nilee puts on his carnac cap
[21:40] <kostkon> i'd*
[21:40] <pipsqueaker> hays still doesnt work
[21:40] <hays> pipsqueaker: no effect?
[21:40] <hays> same problem?
[21:40] <pipsqueaker> same problems
[21:40] <sln> can it be reinstalled? konstkon: wilee-nilee
[21:40] <kostkon> sln, reset
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> sln, Try the reset, what release is this?
[21:41] <sln> yes, wilee-nilee, I can tell
[21:41] <sln> how to reset?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> sln, different per releases, what release?
[21:41] <kostkon> sln, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[21:41] <pipsqueaker> hays you still there?
[21:42] <sln> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04.3
[21:42] <hays> pipsqueaker: yep. not sure what to say.. the bcm4331 drivers are reverse engineered so..
[21:42] <hays> pipsqueaker: you could try the latest kernel but i don't think that will help
[21:42] <pipsqueaker> yeah, it hasnt
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> sln, That link should work.
[21:43] <pipsqueaker> hays the odd this is that I've installed Ubuntu on this Mac before
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> or at least is correct
[21:43] <hays> pipsqueaker: you tried the latest kernel? 3.11.4?
[21:43] <pipsqueaker> hays I've come up against the drivers msiing issue, but this is the first time that I'm getting this hidden-network iddue
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> sln, Problem here really is, lack of any details.
[21:43] <pipsqueaker> hays I have, is there a command to check kernel version?
[21:44] <hays> pipsqueaker: uname -a
[21:44] <bekks> pipsqueaker: "uname -a"
[21:44] <kostkon> pipsqueaker, uname -a
[21:44] <kostkon> :P
[21:44] <sln> OK. I will try that now. wilee-nilee: kostkon.
[21:44] <pipsqueaker> output from said command
[21:44] <pipsqueaker>  3.8.0-32-generic #47~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 16:19:35 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:44] <sln> can I do that while I am here?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> sln, May need a reboot most likely as well after
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> [17:43:37] <hays> pipsqueaker: you tried the latest kernel? 3.11.4? ---> latest stable kernel is 3.11.6
[21:44] <duxb> can I please get someone to confirm that keyboard shortcuts set through the system settings > keyboard > shortcuts > custom shortcuts dialog is broken in general or just me?
[21:44] <hays> pipsqueaker: ok this is a longshot. but grab debs for 3.11.4
[21:45] <pipsqueaker> how?
[21:45] <hays> Ari-Yang: oh ok even better
[21:45] <pipsqueaker> I'm a noob to linux
[21:45] <sln> ok. Thanks. wilee-nilee, kostkon.
[21:45] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.6-saucy/
[21:45] <hays> pipsqueaker: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/linux-kernel-3-11-6-upgrade-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[21:46] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: download the .deb of the headers amd64, the headers all, and the image amd64
[21:46] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: put it all in a folder, cd into using terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[21:46] <Ari-Yang> then reboot
[21:46] <hays> pipsqueaker: im suggesting this because there was something funky for me that was fixed in 3.11 with my broadcom. for me it was showing hardware disabled
[21:46] <pipsqueaker> why are these all named saucy though?
[21:46] <pipsqueaker> I'm precise
[21:46] <hays> pipsqueaker: because you are running a newer kernel
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: that's the name of the kernel...
[21:47] <hays> there are no deps for the kernel it shouldnt be a problem
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.11.4-031104-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> ^ pipsqueaker
[21:47] <pipsqueaker> kk
[21:47] <Ari-Yang> I'm on quantal and running on 3.11.4
[21:47] <hays> i dont think even saucy is doing 3.11 yet.. at least when i was running it
[21:48] <hays> had to add those myself
[21:48] <pipsqueaker> downloading kernel now
[21:48] <Ari-Yang> hays: ubuntu 13.10 is running on kernel 3.11
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> saucy is 3.11.0-12
[21:48] <hays> Ari-Yang: hm. weird that it wasn't for me
[21:48] <k1l_> hays: when did you run saucy? 3.11 is long time in saucy, at least since alpha
[21:48] <hays> but irrelevant now.. im on 3.11.4
[21:48] <hays> a few days ago
[21:49] <Ari-Yang> hays: why are you running 3.11.4?
[21:49] <pipsqueaker> hays Ari-Yang will the drivers I have installed interfere with the functioning of the new kernel, once it's installed?
[21:49] <k1l_> hays: then there was something wrong with the version you used
[21:49] <hays> Ari-Yang: because I thought it was the latest when I struggled with this issue a few days ago
[21:49] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: that depends.... are you using proprietary dirvers?
[21:49] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: if they are proprietary drivers, you'll have to use the free/open source drivers
[21:49] <hays> pipsqueaker: i think you will want to uninstall and reinstall the linux-nonfree-firmware package (or wahtever it was called)
[21:50] <pipsqueaker> got it
[21:50] <duxb> Last call for someone to help me with the keyboard shortcut thing before I leave?
[21:50] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: what graphics card do you have?
[21:50] <Chat8923> If u want to make money click this link, get some money just for sitting on your ass!! http://youthwealth.com/?myrefcode=987
[21:50] <pipsqueaker> nvidia 650m 1gb
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> duxb:  you did search on askubuntu.com ?
[21:51] <duxb> no, just googled and searched launchpad, I'll try there
[21:51] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: go to software-sources and go to the 'Additional drivers' tab and make sure that it doesn't say proprietary drivers are in use.
[21:51] <Ari-Yang> if it doesn't, you're good to go
[21:52] <hays> i believe he needs to be using this b43 drivers
[21:52] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: see, this is what mine looks like http://gyazo.com/ce84017b9822cee41c254d375bd43110
[21:52] <hays> which are open source but maybe nonfree?
[21:53] <pipsqueaker> none in use
[21:53] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: 'k, you're good to go.
[21:54] <pipsqueaker> isnt it unsafe to be able to see the IPs of users when they join?
[21:54] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: make sure to download the headers too after downloading the image
[21:54] <pipsqueaker> (I dont understand the internet all that much)
[21:54] <Ari-Yang> meh
[21:54] <Ari-Yang> no big deal
[21:54] <pipsqueaker> Ari-Yang I just used instructions from http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/linux-kernel-3-11-6-upgrade-ubuntu-linux-mint/
[21:54] <pipsqueaker> that good?
[21:55] <pipsqueaker> Commands done, I'm ready to reboot
[21:55] <hays> go for it
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: I guess...
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> go on ahead, reboot
[21:55] <sln> wilee-nilee: I reset the unity, It changed everything to default. but, the command is not completed.
[21:55] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: you did make sure to download the right ones right?
[21:55] <sln> it hung at "Setting Update "run_key"/
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> seeing how you're on 64bit you'd download the amd64
[21:56] <Dr_Willis> pipsqueaker:  irc has been around for decades (i used to irc in the 1980's) :) if you want to hide your ip theres ways to do it.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> sln, I Believe thats how it run, close it and reboot and make sure it's normal.
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> runs*
[21:56] <sln> There was also an error: G_IS_OBJECT failed
[21:56] <kostkon> sln, yeah it's normal. it restarted unity
[21:56] <kostkon> sln, ignre the errors and warnings
[21:57] <sln> ok. many thanks. wilee-nilee: and kostkon
[21:57] <hays> i have a feeling this kernel upgrade isn't going to help pipsqueaker, but its worth a shot
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> hays: what's his problem again?
[21:58] <pipsqueaker_> I just rebooted, unfortunately the all-networks-hidden problem persists
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker: what's the output of uname -r ?
[21:58] <hays> Ari-Yang: his networks are all hidden
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> huh
[21:59] <pipsqueaker_> 3.11.6-031106-generic
[21:59] <Ari-Yang> you mean like in network manager?
[21:59] <pipsqueaker_> Yeah
[21:59] <Ari-Yang> yeah uhh... upgrading the kernel wouldn't help much I doubt in this case.
[21:59] <pipsqueaker_> I can connect to them through the "hidden networks" submenu
[21:59] <alazyworkaholic> My computer won't boot from its HDDs anymore and I wasn't able to repair it with 'boot-repair'. Would someone be willing to help me out & take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6337966/
[21:59] <pipsqueaker_> and then all available networks show up and I can connect
[21:59] <hays> its possible an API call in the driver is broken
[21:59] <pipsqueaker_> but I need to do the connect via hidden network thig every time
[22:00] <Ari-Yang> dunno...
[22:00] <pipsqueaker_> I might try just reinstalling Ubuntu at this point honestly
[22:00] <Ari-Yang> one would update the kernel for e.g. better/improved hardware support...
[22:00] <pipsqueaker_> see but that's the thing
[22:00] <hays> pipsqueaker_: try iwlist
[22:01] <Ari-Yang> like the reason why I upgraded was so that I can have dynamic power management on the open source radeon driver, and hardware video decoding support.
[22:01] <pipsqueaker_> typing that gave me a list of options
[22:01] <pipsqueaker_> which one do I pick hays
[22:01] <hays> Ari-Yang: i had to upgrade because for whatever reason the brcmsmac driver was disabling my wireless card
[22:02] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[22:02] <pipsqueaker_> Remind me- if I reinstall 12.04 and upgrade my kernel is that basically the same as getting 13.04 w/o the UI changes?
[22:02] <hays> iwlist scan maybe?
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, Have you tried booting from the sdc HD first?
[22:03] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker_: if you install 12.04 LTS, you can upgrade the kernel like you did just now
[22:03] <Ari-Yang> 12.04.3 runs on kernel 3.8
[22:03] <hays> pipsqueaker_: that's incorrect but close to correct
[22:03] <pipsqueaker_>  hays Ari-Yang here's my iwlist scan http://pastebin.com/Q6A6ZbqB
[22:03] <kostkon> pipsqueaker_, as getting 13.10*
[22:03] <Private_User> hi guys, Dr_Willis, how do you hide the IP. I remember back in the days when I used to use IRC I had a IRC client that did it for me... or was it one of the administrators that sorted that out for me mmm... cannot remember now its been that long ago now
[22:03] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker_: you are still running on 12.04 if you upgrade the kernel to 3.11
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, windows is in sda the windows boot id sdc, and sdc has the only grub in the mbr, that is one messed up setup.
[22:03] <Ari-Yang> you're just running on a different kernel is all.
[22:04] <pipsqueaker_> k
[22:04] <k1l_> Private_User: register with freenode and ask for a cloak  in #freenode
[22:04] <pipsqueaker_> *sigh* I wish Ubuntu played well with macs
[22:04] <hays> well it shows one network.. heh
[22:04] <pipsqueaker_> all I want is linux on this thing
[22:04] <pipsqueaker_> yeah, because I'm connected to it
[22:04] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker_: file a bug report?
[22:04] <hays> the problem is broadcom
[22:04] <pipsqueaker_> where?
[22:05] <Private_User> thanks k1l_ much appreciated
[22:05] <hays> if iwlist doesn't show it seems like the problem is lower than ubuntu and likely in the b43 driver
[22:05] <pipsqueaker_> hays well I've used those drivers before on this very mac, never had a problem with it
[22:05] <hays> you could maybe try an older version.. dunno
[22:05] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: the set-up worked for ages like this: a 64GB SSD (sdd) holds /boot (ext4) and / for linux. I keep /home as a raid0 on the pair of large drives (sda, sdc), sdb & sde are for backups.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, actually you have grub in the sdb sdc and sde, must be one of them to boot hopefully
[22:06] <Ari-Yang> pipsqueaker_: file a bug report?
[22:06] <pipsqueaker_> Ari-Yang where?
[22:06]  * Ari-Yang shrugs
[22:06] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: and I kept windows around on a little part of the bigger drives
[22:06] <pipsqueaker_> alright guys, thanks for the help
[22:06] <pipsqueaker_> I gtg
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, sdd has syslinux now, I know m=nothing about raid is all.
[22:07] <hays> pipsqueaker_: try #bcm-users maybe
[22:07] <elaleph1971> #ubuntu-es
[22:07] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks. I don't recall doing anything to make "cannot locate bootmgr" appear at boot time, but what do I have to do with boot-repair now to put grub in its proper place?
[22:07] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: sdd has syslinux now ?huh?
[22:08] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: when I installed 13.10 I told the installer to put the boot loader on the 64 gb ssd (sdd)
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, Not sure really, sdd has syslinux in the mbr its on that script at the top. Two linux install and a windows with the boot partition split off and a raid. All I can say is just because it worked did not mean you would ahve any easy fix if broken, or was even optional.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, the bootrepair puts the syslinux in when fixing at times, I would find the bopotrepair thread at the ubuntu forums and post that script.
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> bootrepair*
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, the inventor (I use that phrase loosly, lol) of the boot repair has a thread and is pretty good at clean up yo might talk with them. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1769482
[22:15] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: thanks. I'll try that if necessary. If I could just get grub to install on the right drive I'd be happy. boot-repair has so many "restore the mbr of" options, even for sdd, that I'm a tad lost.
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, You can chroot to the sdd install and put grub in the mbr.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> sort of odd to be using syslinux to boot a hard drive. :)
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> normally only see that on usb-live, or optical disks.
[22:17] <devilcode> hello
[22:17] <alazyworkaholic> wilee-nilee: that vaguely sounds like a good idea. How would I go about that?
[22:17] <Resu_Etavirp> brb
[22:18] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_Willis: what is syslinux? what's its relation to boot?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, read carefully not real hard and a single command to do the chroot. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_Boot-Repair_Graphical_Tool-1
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  its a bootloader like grub and lilo. its normally used on cds
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, YannBuntu is an odd person, although this tool is helping many, a whole lotta cleanup is still done, glad I know at least this much of the cli.
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> SYSLINUX is a boot loader for the Linux operating system which runs on an MS-DOS/Windows FAT filesystem. It is intended to simplify first-time installation of Linux, and for creation of rescue and other special purpose boot disks.
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> those french you know, hehe
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> ISOLINUX is a boot loader for Linux/i386 that operates off ISO 9660/El Torito CD-ROMs in "no emulation" mode. This avoids the need to create an "emulation disk image" with limited space (for "floppy emulation") or compatibility problems (for "hard disk emulation".)
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> most live cd's use isolinux.
[22:21] <bekks> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the explanation, I didnt know that.
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> well - bbl
[22:21] <alazyworkaholic> I guess it may have been installed when I first tried using the standard repair options of boot-repair with my complicated setup
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu live usb - ive had to tweak their rathe complex syslinux setup files befor..
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> alazyworkaholic, You can move that windows boot to the C partition of windows to have it on the same HD if needed with a recovery or install disc if your booting it or want to.
[22:30] <CharlieSu> How can I install MySQL without having it start after install?
[22:31] <bekks> CharlieSu: Install it regurlarly, then configure it to not start automatically.
[22:31] <duxb> does unity-panel-service have a memory leak in 13.10? when I first log in, mine uses 5.7M, but after a few days, it's over 500M
[22:32] <CharlieSu> bekks: I want to install it regularly but I don't want it to start after the install is done..  Apache and MySQL are exampels of services that automatically start upon installation..
[22:33] <bekks> CharlieSu: Why dont you just stop it after the installation?
[22:33] <xangua> duxb: mine is at 66M currently
[22:33] <xangua> even more than compiz
[22:33] <duxb> xangua, how long have you been logged in?
[22:34] <xangua> duxb: almost half a day, i upgrade to 13.10 yesterday
[22:34] <CharlieSu> bekks: That is an option, but I'd rather not have to do that..  Seems silly.. Especially things like MySQL where I may want to init my DB differently.
[22:34] <bekks> CharlieSu: Then let ot start, shut it down, and configure it the way you want.
[22:35] <CharlieSu> bekks: lol.. ok. you obviously don't have an answer..  thx
[22:35] <bekks> CharlieSu: There is no way to regularly install it but having it not starting after installation.
[22:36] <bekks> CharlieSu: The only way would be to create a custom installation package. Which is FAR more effort then just shutting it down after installation. Did you want to hear that=
[22:36] <duxb> Yeah, unity-panel-service adds about 200-300K every time a program is launched, never deletes
[22:36]  * wilee-nilee puts 20$ on bekks argument
[22:37] <peyam> Hi, If I install tlp , do I have to uninstall the powermanager ?
[22:37] <duxb> CharlieSu, if you can find the system file that contains all the programs launched on boot and remove mysql from that
[22:38] <duxb> I can't remember what the file is though
[22:38] <bekks> duxb: Which will not inhibit mysql to be started right after the installation.
[22:38] <duxb> true
[22:38] <bekks> wilee-nilee: ;)
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> I'm in for the win. ;)
[22:39] <peyam> Anybody? if I install TLP, do I have to uninstall the default power manager?
[22:39] <duxb> CharlieSu, can you tell us why you don't want it to start the first time after install?
[22:39] <bekks> duxb: He wants to initialize the db differently.
[22:40] <yeyeman> how do I bind backspace to go back one step in the file manager?
[22:40] <duxb> what if you preconfigure all it's files, installler asks if you want to overwrite them, don't then blam, launches after install with your desired settings
[22:40] <yeyeman> didn't ubuntu used to have this feature? hmm
[22:41] <yeyeman> I mean it's pretty basic, even xubuntu has it
[22:41] <yeyeman> or rather xfce then
[22:41] <k1l_> yeyeman: gnome reduced the functions in nautilus
[22:41] <duxb> different file manager, yeyem
[22:41] <duxb> or at least different default file manager
[22:41] <yeyeman> can I easily implement it?
[22:42] <duxb> You could just use thundar, or whatever filemanager XFCE4 uses
[22:45] <yeyeman> and can I set it as system default then somehow?
[22:45] <yeyeman> I haven't tried changeing it before
[22:45] <yeyeman> but get the feeling that if i click 'open directory' from some application nautilus will open anyway
[22:46] <yeyeman> and that inconsistency would be worse than not being able to backspace
[22:46] <yeyeman> you know what I mean?
[22:51] <duxb> have you tried googling "change default file browser in ubuntu"?
[22:51] <duxb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[22:52] <sam113101> on linux you use the file manager you want, unlike on windows
[22:52] <sam113101> apps shouldn't call a particular browser directly
[22:52] <sam113101> they call some app that selects the default browser
[22:52] <okay19> I just finished installing Ubuntu 13.10 alongside Windows 8.1, but I can't get the GRUB menu to appear.
[22:52] <sam113101> wow
[22:53] <sam113101> why am I even talking of browsers
[22:53]  * sam113101 is extremely sleep deprived
[22:53] <duxb> did you try grub repair from a live cd?
[22:53] <okay19> duxb: I ran boot repair, which did not fix it.
[22:54] <sam113101> okay19: does windows or ubuntu boot?
[22:54] <okay19> sam113101: Windows
[22:54] <okay19> sam113101: This is UEFI by the way
[22:54] <duxb> doesn't 8 have a locked bootloader?
[22:54] <sam113101> how many drives do you have on your machine?
[22:54] <okay19> duxb: I disabled secure boot
[22:54] <okay19> sam113101: Just 1
[22:55] <okay19> sam113101: Boot repair gave me a paste link, do you want it?
[22:55] <sam113101> ok
[22:55] <okay19> sam113101: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338196/
[23:02] <bigmac> Is there a way of determine which kernel headers are needed and install them?
[23:03] <bekks> sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[23:06] <KotaroDesign> Hello, I got a slight problem with the Mailserver. I am using postfix and courier, in order to get IMAP working. Unfortunately everytime I try to login with telnet localhost 143, it doesn't let me. POP3 works, but IMAP doesn't. Can anyone help?
[23:07] <sam113101> okay19: I'd try putting the boot flag on sda8 instead
[23:09] <dr_willis> !headers
[23:09] <okay19> sam113101: How would I do that?
[23:10] <sam113101> okay19: boot on the ubuntu live cd and run gparted
[23:17] <Arpad2> mouse not working after upgrade
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> run xev from a terminal. see if it spits out any mouse info  perhaps?
[23:19] <Arpad2> ok, terminal is also in a very small window
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> thats the xev input window. any input it gets from anything - it will print info out to the terminal
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> sudo cat /dev/input/mice         normally prints out 'gibberish'  when you move the mouse around also.
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> if neither of those show mouse movements with some output.. thats a sign of  what i would think would be a kernel type issue.
[23:21] <Arpad2> but don't know how to resize terminal window without mouse
[23:21] <Arpad2> or how to move the wondow
[23:22] <jasic> clefebvre: dude
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> sudo cat /dev/input/mice     try this command. it should work form any terminal. or  console
[23:22] <jasic> clefebvre: are u there?
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> also look at what devices are in /dev/input    i got a mouse1 mouse0 and mice     devices
[23:24] <Arpad2> it is showing some strange signs
[23:26] <Arpad2> its not showing anything
[23:27] <Arpad2> if I move the mouse the strange signs appears in the terminal
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> thats showing the mice device is working then.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> so its aparently X thats not reading the right device.
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> if so - look in it - with a text editor. see if thers some line  mentioning /dev/input/mouse1 or mouse0 or mice,  it may be its not set to be reading from /dev/input/mice like it should
[23:31] <Arpad2> ok
[23:33] <Arpad2> there is no xorg.conf, only xorg.conf.backup
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> as a test you could cp the xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf and try restarting the x server.
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> most machines dont need an xorg.conf these days - X auto configures
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> be back in a bit
[23:34] <jimmyjames> guys I got a transparent box on my unity desktop, when I reboot is the only time I can see it, I can't figure out what it is.
[23:35] <TauNeutrino> Hey ubuntians
[23:35] <johnny86> hi
[23:35] <TauNeutrino> Hey Ubuntians
[23:35] <impossible> how do i execute jar file from terminal?
[23:36] <impossible> does java -jar (file) work?
[23:36] <bekks> impossible: java -jar jarfile
[23:36] <impossible> bekks thanks
[23:36] <TauNeutrino> How can I convert *.odt in *.doc ?
[23:38] <scottalan> after a reboot on ubuntu 12.04 LTS I can't ping nor ssh into the box. Has anyone experienced this that would mind telling me what it might have been for them. I've tried everything I could think of.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> TauNeutrino, In or to and in what app word or freaky libreoffice
[23:39] <scottalan> I've booted into a rescue mode and removed/reset everything I could think of including removing iptables
[23:40] <TauNeutrino> what?
[23:40] <TauNeutrino> can you rephrease this in english?
[23:40] <TauNeutrino> rephrase lol
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> TauNeutrino, funny that's what I said on your post "odt in doc"
[23:41] <TauNeutrino> ;D
[23:41] <TauNeutrino> come ooonn, how??
[23:41] <TauNeutrino> freaking how
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> TauNeutrino, odt TO doc?
[23:41] <TauNeutrino> yeaaass
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> TauNeutrino, Save ass has an option.
[23:42] <TauNeutrino> how can I transmutate odt in freaking doc
[23:42] <TauNeutrino> what ass?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> oops save as
[23:42] <TauNeutrino> lol
[23:42] <TauNeutrino> xD
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> just following your lead
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> scottalan: can you ssh with the -v flag
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> scottalan: whats the exact error you get with that?
[23:43] <z1haze> im in desperate need of help :(
[23:44] <z1haze> i run a minecraft server on a ubuntu server and now whenever i try to access the control panel from the web the screen terminates with an error saying:
[23:44] <z1haze> Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates
[23:44] <z1haze> a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries
[23:44] <z1haze> used by your application.
[23:44] <FloodBot1> z1haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <loganrun> how do I resetup video card drivers
[23:44] <loganrun> things are screwed up after upgrade
[23:44] <z1haze> would anyone have a clue how to help me out?
[23:45] <pfifo> trick, treat or ubuntu support :D
[23:45] <z1haze> its been down for almost a full day, and i have many players that play and this is very bad
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> loganrun, drivers generally don't follow a distro upgrade, these ppa fetched drivers or proprietary, details work here..
[23:45] <pfifo> z1haze: i have the best luck with minecraft by running the latest java from oracle
[23:46] <z1haze> the java is up to date
[23:46] <TauNeutrino> hey libre Office is not that bad
[23:46] <bekks> z1haze: Which version is your java?
[23:46] <loganrun> well I did some apt-get command which apparently removed a bunch of linux-headers-3.2.0-XX-generic-pae that could have done it also
[23:46] <loganrun> in any event what the heck do I do to set the video back up
[23:47] <TauNeutrino> How is libre pronaunced?
[23:47] <z1haze> i assume 7
[23:47] <z1haze> how do i check to be sure
[23:47] <TauNeutrino> laybrii?
[23:47] <bekks> z1haze: "java -version"
[23:47] <z1haze> this has been fine then all of the sudden yesterday it happened
[23:47] <z1haze> java version "1.7.0_40"
[23:47] <loganrun> how do I set up the video card
[23:47] <bekks> thats not current ;)
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> TauNeutrino, like dracula on halloween
[23:48] <z1haze> but i mean it was fine
[23:48] <TauNeutrino> what?
[23:48] <z1haze> this is what happened
[23:48] <TauNeutrino> I'm a freaking german
[23:48] <z1haze> a few days ago i installed mono-complete
[23:48] <z1haze> and launched the .exe version of the server
[23:48] <z1haze> because i dont know what im doing
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> not far from Transylvania eh, closer than me
[23:48] <TauNeutrino> hehe
[23:49] <z1haze> but i closed all that, or at least i think so, and now i run the right process and it was fine for a few days
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> dräkular
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> no wait
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> dracular is dracular
[23:49] <z1haze> not all of the sudden it messs up every time i access the URL of the control panel
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> can you see the letters: öööööööööääääääääää
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> ?
[23:49] <z1haze> if i start the process in a new screen the server stays online
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: libre is french ... that should give you an idea on the pronunciation
[23:49] <z1haze> and u can get on and play, BUT if i try to access the internet control panel for the server, it crashes
[23:49] <z1haze> please help
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> hm
[23:49] <TauNeutrino> not sure
[23:50] <TauNeutrino> what's wrong z1haze?
[23:51] <TauNeutrino> what's cracking?
[23:51] <jimmyjames> just checking : none knows what the transparent box is on unity? only visible when I reboot or shutdown. I have looked for docs and searched google with no luck, its just bugging me I got to know lol
[23:51] <z1haze> i run a minecraft server, and for some reason now anytime i access the cpanel from the web, it crashes the server, by terminating the screen
[23:51] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338447/
[23:51] <TauNeutrino> I typed libre in some language speaking website
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: http://translate.google.com/#fr/en/libre
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> TauNeutrino:  Liiii-Brrrrrrr
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:52] <z1haze> can u help?
[23:52] <TauNeutrino> ahh
[23:52] <TauNeutrino> yees
[23:52] <z1haze> it does then when i access the url of the control panel from the web
[23:52] <TauNeutrino> yes, right Dr
[23:52] <z1haze> just closes right exactly when u load the page
[23:52] <z1haze> its really weird
[23:53] <bekks> z1haze: SIGSEGV appearingall of a sudden most likely indicate defective RAM.
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> My Brother in law is a french chef.. we always try to annoy him by miss-pronounceing french terms in the worst possible way. ;)
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> lol
[23:53] <TauNeutrino> ;D
[23:53] <z1haze> bekks, its been fine
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> chefs are all high strung not to hard eh
[23:53] <z1haze> what else can this be
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: why are you running minecraft on root? or even logged in as root?
[23:54] <Arpad2> Dr_Willis: it didn't work the cp, the resolution went down. the mouse work as guest login
[23:54] <z1haze> root
[23:54] <z1haze> yes
[23:54] <dannymichel> I'm coming from OS X where I would use MPlayer X' next button to go to the next episode. This was completely dynamic. I didnt have to make playlists or anything. It knew what the next episode was.
[23:54] <dannymichel> Any apps like that? http://goo.gl/GCiiOw
[23:54] <z1haze> if i start the server
[23:54] <z1haze> it works
[23:54] <z1haze> but if i access the control panel
[23:54] <z1haze> it closes
[23:54] <FloodBot1> z1haze: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <z1haze> instantly
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> Arpad2:  try makign a new user 'sudo adduser billgates' if the new user works - that points to it being some problem setting in the problem users home directory. No idea where that would be at however. You could just reset everything back to defaults for the problem user.
[23:55] <TauNeutrino> billgates xD
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> z1haze:  it closes..  whats 'it' ? the server crashes? the browser window crashes? the pc crashes?
[23:55] <z1haze> the screen aborts
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: reinstall the control panel I would guess.. it's clearly sending the wrong command to screen
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> 'the screen' - meaning what exactly?
[23:55] <z1haze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338467/
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: it's not 'the screen' it's screen. screen is an application
[23:56] <TauNeutrino> byebye and thx :)
[23:56] <z1haze> well before it would just said [screen is terminating]
[23:56] <z1haze> as soon as i access the url for the control panel
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> 'screen' is a terminal multiplexer ;)
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> tmux and byou are alternatives
[23:57] <z1haze> how can i get this working because its reallying screwing me and my community of players
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> you are accessing the control panel in the browser.. and its killing a shell?
[23:57] <z1haze> yes
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> or its killing the  server thats running in the shell.
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: reinstall the control panel.
[23:57] <z1haze> how? sorry i dont really know what im doing.
[23:58] <z1haze> do i have to remove the old one first?
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> z1haze: is this mineos?
[23:58] <z1haze> mcmyadmin
[23:58] <adamdicarlo> i'm trying to compile PHP 5.4 for Saucy... using debuild... "can't find gmp.h" but i have libgmp-dev installed... any ideas anybody?
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> adamdicarlo: did you check to make sure its the right version of libgmp-dev? and that it's looking in the right place for it?