[00:06] bekks: tried both setting nomodeset and nomodeset acpi_osi=\"Linux\"" [00:35] <`Fibz`> i have a few systems where i've done everything recommended to get boot splash working and still, its just a blank screen untill the system is fully booted [00:36] <`Fibz`> actually, this is true for all of my systems. boot splash doesnt work on *any* of my systems. the ones where is does "work" its a blank screen untill the very last second, then 1 get a quick flash of the bootsplash then lightdm login screen [00:38] <`Fibz`> if i try to attempt a fix, it'll be the same blank screen (no blinking cursor) then just before lightdm login a get a 1 second splash of loading text === Pici is now known as TalkingMuffin [01:01] Anyone up to helping out a guy who upgraded from 13.4 to 13.10 with some minor issues [01:02] 1. How to configure login window, so that a different user auto-logins, and that it doesn't require password for this user? (this is how it was configured in 13.4, before upgrade.) I can't find out how to do it in 13.10 [01:02] 2. Torrentflux does not work in 13.10. Anyone using it here? [01:04] I forgot to purge the x-swat ppa with nvidia drivers before upgrading. Any way to fix it? [01:11] the xfce4-plugin for audio which displays audio devices and apps (such as rythmbox, pithos, etc.) what is it called? [01:15] when i try and run pavucontrol it hangs on connecting to audio sever (exactly like this error): http://askubuntu.com/questions/70560/why-am-i-getting-this-connection-to-pulseaudio-failed-error === map is now known as Guest58863 [03:08] the xfce4-plugin for audio which displays audio devices and apps (such as rythmbox, pithos, etc.) what is it called? [05:18] hi [05:19] how can i get closer to xfce updates? How often do app updates get rolled out? [05:19] thanks [05:20] app updates usually appear in the repos shortly after being released [05:22] which apps are you referring to? [05:22] I see how about apps like gpodder, or parole? How long do you think it will take to be updated? [05:22] give it a day or two. not familiar with gpodder [05:25] or, if you want the latest and greatest, see if there is a PPA available for the package [05:28] 13.04 is the last system available for gpodder [05:29] Ok [05:29] gpodder hasn't been updated since April 20th [05:29] !info gpodder [05:29] gpodder (source: gpodder): podcast client and feed aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.5.1-1 (saucy), package size 747 kB, installed size 2816 kB [05:29] lucky everything is working really solid for my workflow, but gpodder has a point release with YouTube support. [05:30] For what ever reason they didn't push that to Ubuntu, but they did push it to Debian so it would stand to reason the thing would probably work in Xubuntu 13.10? [05:31] I really like everything being solid and don't want to go installing PPAs [05:31] Although I know sometimes I have to [05:31] not necessarily, Debian is different than Ubuntu [05:31] Ubuntu doesn't actually pull in updates as they come, that would be a rolling release. It'll be sync'd in for Trusty, or maybe you can request abackport. [05:32] (It has already been sync'd in for Trusty, that is.) [05:32] ahh ok..so 6 months? [05:44] goddard, if there are no ubuntu changes, you could always install debian's version [06:17] is there any way to get XFCE to display the full name of an icon on the desktop? [06:18] instead of the ellipsis [06:18] not that I know of [06:18] :( [06:18] sigh [06:19] you could edit the Icon name to something shorter [09:03] Howdy - hopefully a quick question - I've googled, but all I can find is how to enable the compose key, which I've already done. Can someone point me how to add a custom sequence? For example, to get ñ it's Compose+(+tilde)+n, which is a pain. I'd like to make a custom sequence so I can just do Compose+n (which doesn't currently seem to be mapped) - since I'm learning Spanish. :) Can someone point me where or at least bet === benjick_ is now known as benjick [09:16] ObrienDave test [09:16] oops LOL [09:25] IF anyone sees this later and has a quick answer, feel free to spam me at reddit.com/u/polyolyver or polyolyver@polyolyver.com. <3 === map is now known as Guest11619 [10:39] !info firefox [10:39] firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 25.0+build3-0ubuntu0.13.10.1 (saucy), package size 27917 kB, installed size 57522 kB === Myrtti_ is now known as Myrtti === aicasn-away is now known as aicasn === map is now known as Guest68281 [13:40] Can somebody help me with this printer problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/367867/hp-deskjet-1050a-does-not-print-or-scan-in-lubuntu [13:40] xubuntu145, is this for a production, i.e. work machine? [13:41] Home! [13:41] Cool. and this is with 13.10 or ... [13:42] Lubuntu 13.10 ( Saucy Salamander ). [13:42] Please do help. [13:43] ok. did it work in a previous ubuntu? if so, I'd suggest you consider going to that version. you DID know that 13.10 has only 9 months support, right? 12.04 has 5 years (LongTermSupport). and the next LTS will out in April - 14.04. [13:44] Lubuntu does not have LTS on 12.04. [13:44] true. but you could install xubuntu or any buntu, add lxde (lubuntu desktop environment) [13:45] I do not have the internet at home to do that. [13:45] xubuntu145, ah. sorry. forgot. [13:46] I prefer Lubuntu over the other Ubuntu's. [13:46] xubuntu145, understood === Diomedes_ is now known as Diomedes [13:47] you've done all the things I would have tried. Sorry, but I have no solution. please ask in #ubuntu. Lots more people there [13:48] Thank you. [14:26] .clear [14:26] d'oh! Sorry. [14:49] okay, let me try this again. Just upgraded to an xfce version of 13.10 a week ago and am still having difficulty maintaining a consistent connection to the internet. internet connects and will stay connected for anywhere from 5 minutes to two hours but then goes down. last time it did this, I pinged 8.8.8.8 and this is what I got: [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=16 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=17 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=18 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=19 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=20 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=21 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=22 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=23 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=24 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=25 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=26 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] enough [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=27 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=28 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=29 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=30 Destination Host Unreachable [14:50] From 192.168.1.102 icmp_seq=31 Destination [14:50] but then I got this [14:50] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=36 ttl=43 time=36.4 ms [14:50] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=37 ttl=43 time=34.9 ms [14:50] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=38 ttl=43 time=36.0 ms [14:50] haven: stop it!!! [14:50] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=39 ttl=43 time=43.4 ms [14:51] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=40 ttl=43 time=37.2 ms [14:51] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=41 ttl=43 time=36.0 ms [14:51] 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=42 ttl=43 time=37.0 ms [14:51] !paste|haven [14:51] haven: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:51] I've ruled out it being a mozilla problem. xchat went down briefly, but then re-logged in. [14:51] haven. stop flooding this channel. [14:51] use paste and we'll try to help. [14:53] haven: ping is a tool that can help you find where the issue is.. you can ping the gateway, your router, then try and ping something like google.com [14:54] haven: i would reboot, after having applied upgrade, and booting the most recent, up to date kernel with *all* upgrades applied, use the machine, and when you experience an issue, ping those 2 places.. [14:57] okay, I'll do that. [14:57] 8.8.8.8 is google [14:58] moondog: google's dns server.. [14:58] although might be nice to make sure dns is working === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|Werehog [14:58] moondog: how do I do that? [15:00] i say, if you come back, and cant ping the gateway, or something outside the lan, you can check that then [15:01] you can connect the machine wired, and use it and if it works, its not a DNS issue [15:03] the xfce4-plugin for audio which displays audio devices and apps (such as rythmbox, pithos, etc.) what is it called? [15:04] gdos: indicator-sound [15:05] ochosi: thanks. mine crashed in xubuntu 12.04.3 and i want to find out why and probably recompile it. :) [15:06] gdos: it's not really a part of xfce though, it's a part of unity that can be used via the xfce4-indicator-plugin [15:06] why would you have to recompile it? [15:07] it crashed and i cant get it to display again. what unity libraries does it use? maybe i could try reinstalling those. [15:11] hey folks. Xubuntu 13.10. My update notifier is no longer appearing in the notifications area, but is popping up automatically as a normal app [15:12] i normally use apt-get update/upgrade, but the notification area used to go away automatically [15:12] zukeprime: bug 1246364 [15:12] and now its just not there at all? [15:12] now the window pops up (not in notifications) and won't go away [15:12] bug 1246364 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "update-notifier does not show a tray icon in xubuntu 13.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1246364 [15:12] ahh thanks brainwash [15:18] ouch...a lot of update-notifier bug reports. Should have checked there first. [15:20] holstein: my machine is weird. the wireless networking is supported by almost every distro... but the ethernet adapter is only supported by about 50% [15:20] I think it's a new chipset [15:20] newer [15:21] moondog: i had one like that.. its been a while though.. i put it in the charity bin [15:23] I'm thinking another 6 months to a year and all the current distros will probably support it. kinda like EFI... things will catch up. [15:24] i hope so.. its not really the responsbility (as i see it) for the OS to support the hardware, though linux distros do a great job at supporting most hardware out-of-the-box. === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [17:14] I accidentaly made my USB none-bootable.. i tried to format the whole shebang but i somehow failed.. and when i tried with usb-imagewriter and write ISO on it it just boots up normal session. There was several partitions on it before and now it only gets one big partition instead..what have i done? do i need to reformat it some format? I tought usb-imagewriter was doing that === ljunggren is now known as m3kk [17:21] Have anyone tried voyager linux? [17:26] I haev [17:26] *have [17:28] Poisoned_Dragon, whats your .. opinion? [17:28] Poisoned_Dragon, good alternative to xubuntu? [17:29] During the time I used it I liked it. Because of it, I still use plank in other distros. [17:29] It also has the slingshot launcher [17:29] aha [17:29] it is pretty neat, if you don't like gnome-shell [17:29] but not as slow as in elementary i hope [17:30] I honestly don't know. I was using it on a quad core system [17:30] that's probably a conversation for -offtopic [17:30] i tought i was in offtopic sorry [17:30] :) [17:30] im always in the wrong room === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|Werehog [17:31] hey how should USB be formated for livesesison? [17:32] my usb is all of the sudden not bootable.. it was three partitions on it at first and it worked like a charm and then i messed up.. now there is only gets "partiton 1 FAT" with usb-imagewriter === genii is now known as genii-o-lantern [17:50] is there a known issue with the 13.10 installer where it hangs when trying to partition? I get to the partitioning screen and there are no partitions listed. When I click "+" to add a partition the installer crashes [17:52] ssfrr: I vaugely remember seeing something like that on the release notes, have you looked at them? [17:52] !notes [17:52] Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) release notes can be found here http://ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/13.10 [17:52] ubottu: I hadn't checked yet, doing so now [17:52] ssfrr: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [17:56] TalkingMuffin: not seeing anything that seems to relate to this issue. There's some stuff about a large number of partititions, but I don't think that's the issue here. [17:57] I'm installing on a brand-new Dell. I would expect to see my existing partitions in the list, but I'm seeing nothing. [17:58] encrypted drive ? [17:58] would a new machine come with encrypted drives by default? I suppose it's possible, I'll check. [17:59] just a guess... ;) [18:02] Hey, I am having a small problem with my touchpad, I like the tap to click feature, but when I want to move my cursor a tiny bit it also thinks it's a tap (I guess since I didn't move the cursor much). Can I decrease the allowed movement for it to be considered a tap? [18:02] hrm, not seeing anything that makes me think any of the partitions are encrypted [18:08] phasip: see if this helps - http://www.ubuntuask.com/q/answers-synaptics-touchpad-sensitivity-issue-128023.html [18:14] seems to be this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/pygobject/+bug/939450. Trying the workaround (installing from the "Try Xubuntu" environment instead of directly) [18:14] Ubuntu bug 939450 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity crashed with TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable in ubi-partman.py" [Critical,Fix released] [18:23] well_laid_lawn: I don't think it works but my FingerLow & FingerHigh was 1, not sure what I should change them to (Tried 35,40 and 9,10 but noticed not difference) [18:24] phasip: that web site also mentioned another setting to try changing [18:27] well_laid_lawn: HorizHysteresis and Vert only seem to change how easy it is to move the cursor, I seem to want a slightly different thing than most. Most seem to have problems with the cursor moving when they tap while I am having problem with the cursor taping when I move, reversing their soultion would result in my touchpad to get more movement sensitive which is not what I want =/ [18:32] Thanks anyway! [18:33] phasip: if you run synclient -l you will see the options you can change [18:33] try changing singletaptimeout [18:34] TheSheep: it appears that you actually have to burn an iso image for it to work properly :/ usb install doesn't work on my hardware [18:35] Makdaam: there are programs for that [18:36] !install | Makdaam [18:36] Makdaam: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate [18:38] TheSheep: yes, I actually read that one [18:39] usb-create, unetbootin and a few others created the same image [18:39] it failed in exactly the same place [18:39] on different usb drives [18:40] I mean, the binaries differed (unetbootin ads its own bootloader) but the emulated iso image had the same discrepancies [18:41] well_laid_lawn: Thanks! Seems like reducing MaxTapTime solves my problem. I guess that is because a longer movement will be too long in time. [18:47] do you guys get the same i/o performance from a VM running in qemu(kvm) w/ vertio that you get from vbox? [18:48] disk i/o in my debian vm maxes out the 2 CPU cores i gave it [18:48] just doing something as simple as apt-get install [19:09] ah, OK. turns out the issue was that this machine is set up with a hybrid drive using an SSD as a cache, which I had to disable in the BIOS so now they're just two separate drives [19:28] hello xubuntu pals [19:29] I wonder will the bug with the audio indicator will be fixed by software updates? [19:31] Are you alive people? [19:32] xubuntu787: yes.. [19:34] That's good to hear [19:37] Is xubuntu made by calonical? On distrowatch it's says as origin Isle of Man.. [19:38] Which "the bug" do you talk about? [19:39] !xubuntu [19:39] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [19:39] On the top panel, there is a volume indicator which is not working [19:40] bug 1208204 [19:40] xubuntu is an official ubuntu derivitive that shares the same sources [19:40] bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 [19:41] yeah i got a lot crash messages about xfce4-indicator-plugin the other day, I used this plugin to inform me about new mails [19:42] xubuntu787: Did you read up the entire bug comments? [19:42] indicator-messages from xubuntu lts was nice at least even though it did not alert for incoming mail if thunderbird was closed [19:43] not all, there a was a fix but i dont wanna mess with my system I prefer something official [19:44] xubuntu787: Then you have to wait until the bug is closed with a fix. [19:45] excellent [19:45] that's as official as it will get for the time being - you can see the same thing on the release notes [19:47] that bug hit my home desktop, too. it really sucks [19:47] I never ever needed that plugin, actually :) [19:48] aicasn: that would have hit everyone afaik [19:48] xfce does have a mail watcher plugin [19:48] That's what I use to get inbox notices [19:48] No issues there [19:57] hi all [19:58] is it ok to use PPAs? [19:58] I mean is it safe ans secure? or should I only trust the ubuntu repos? [19:58] !ppa [19:58] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [19:58] xubuntu787, we don't generally recommend using them unless you really need them; and even then, it's not supported [20:00] I installed xubuntu does not work the volume control on the panel number 0 [20:01] xubuntu-ukraine: :D wait for an official fix or do it yourself :P [20:01] xubuntu-ukraine, have you read the release notes? [20:01] bug 1208204 [20:01] bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1208204 [20:02] Read comment #5, xubuntu-ukraine [20:03] that's not all, often crash the network manager [20:03] I had not such issue [20:04] network manager + usb modem cdma network [20:04] I currently use a 3g usb modem too :D [20:04] no problems at all [20:05] not once? [20:05] ah I am in a netbook, should I install laptop-mode-tools or something similar or I am good ootb [20:05] nope, never [20:07] !laptop [20:07] Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org [20:07] damn :P [20:08] why not use wvdial as the standard for connectivity, it works stabilization... [20:16] I have Ubuntu 11.10 was stable [20:18] hey guys [20:18] i need help with the xfce4-power-manager [20:18] its not working [20:18] i'm using xubuntu with 13.10 [20:23] hornypsycho: Now the waiting starts ;) [20:23] lol yeah [20:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2036759 [20:24] yeah i saw that already [20:24] tried it [20:24] didn't work [20:24] plus my problem is a little different than his [20:25] hornypsycho: what is your *exact* problem? [20:25] power manager isn't running at all [20:26] hornypsycho: have you tried as a different user? i would make a new user, or try the guest account and see if the powerapplet starts or is there, to remove your configuration from the equation [20:26] and when i go open the power manager settings from the settings [20:26] it says . power manager is not running. would you like to start it? i press start and nothing happens [20:27] holstein: no i haven't [20:27] i'll give that a try [20:27] if the user account makes no difference, then i would look for and apply any upgrades and reboot, if taking a kernel upgrade, and test again. remove or undo any ppa's or other sources [20:27] try starting the manager from the terminal and see what the error messages are and share them via ubuntu paste [20:28] the user account made no difference [20:29] running the power manager from the terminal doesn't do anything [20:29] if i start the power manager settings through the terminal then i get the same prompt [20:29] i have no problems with power manager [20:30] lucky me [20:30] hornypsycho: what prompt? [20:30] but i faced the prompt on lubuntu 13.10! [20:30] but it worked no problems there too [20:30] "power-manager is not running" would you like to start it? [20:30] then 2 buttons. cancel and start it [20:31] even if i click start. nthing happens .-. [20:31] shit happens [20:31] are you from a clean install or upgraded? [20:32] clean install [20:32] cleanest possible install ever [20:32] i even destroyed all my partitions [20:32] and made new ones :P [20:32] I dont bother choose "Something else" :P I let it do it automatically :D [20:33] !language [20:33] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [20:33] hornypsycho: you have applied all upgrades? [20:33] ubottu: sorry :( [20:33] holstein: yes [20:35] hornypsycho: do you have any ppas? [20:38] holstein: default ppa [20:38] by default, there is no ppa. [20:38] yes there is! [20:38] oh my bad then :P [20:39] Ubuntu partners! and Independent! :D [20:39] those are no ppa, but official repos. === aperson is now known as batperson [20:40] right... [20:40] :D [20:43] I would like a subtitles downloader plugin for parole! It's amazing media player :) === ssfrr is now known as ssfrr_afk [20:46] Ah question! When I started the usb installer of xubuntu at the point where I should choose between Try Xubuntu and Install there is a pop-up from i-Bus for changing shortcut to super+space but it does not work :/ [20:48] also software updater no longer asks for admin password, that's good i guess? [20:50] anyway bb === lasdkjglkj is now known as mike-kasome [21:07] will xubuntu switch to the mir after it becomes stable ? [21:07] no decision has been made regarding that. [21:07] ok === aicasn is now known as aicasn-away [21:29] i wish they don't :P [21:29] gnights ;) === GP-mike is now known as GP-Mike [22:19] hi [22:20] xubuntu freezes sometimes I donno why [22:20] it might make the processor overhot [22:26] how to install software updates from terminal? [22:26] Arpad2: sudp apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade === GP-Mike is now known as GP-mike [22:28] bekks: thank you :) [22:42] If I install TLP do I have to uninstall power manager? [23:11] after sudo apt-get upgrade system program problem detected. for instance mouse not working [23:52] Hello! I recently upgraded from Precise to Saucy on two computers. Now I am unable to use 'sudo' from the terminal emulator, however I can use it in the virtual terminals (I think that's what they're called, ctrl-alt-F1, etc). Any ideas what's going on? [23:59] marklar: open a terminal and run "sudo -i" and share the ouput via paste [23:59] !paste [23:59] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.