[00:01] kubotu: topic restore [00:01] Quintasan, you don't have 'topic' permissions here [00:01] hurr === Quintasan changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.2 notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ | === Quintasan changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.2 notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ === emma is now known as EmmyTheBee === micahg_ is now known as micahg [00:55] yofel, Quintasan: you should probably register :P [01:53] Hello people [02:35] hey valorie [02:40] hi ahoneybun [02:40] happy halloween [02:41] was thick with kids here for a few mins [02:41] half the candy is left though! [02:41] * valorie scatters candy throughout the channel [02:43] valorie, same to you :) [02:43] I went out as V from "V for the Vendetta [02:44] nice [02:45] so you were seen as part of Anon, I guess [02:45] lol [02:46] http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2097113_2097114_2097120,00.html [02:47] yea some people said that [02:48] that was a long meeting yesterday lol [02:48] * valorie is still waiting for a file or notes [02:49] yea yofel is handling that I think [02:50] cool [02:50] maybe I can answer a few questions? [02:51] he recorded the whole thing even before the meeting started [02:51] ok [02:51] we were talking a bit before hand [02:51] great! [02:51] what was not clear in the google docs? [02:51] doc [02:52] I just want to hear the discussion, or see more details [02:52] it was frustrating to have to miss it [02:55] ok [02:56] most of it was about the docs [02:56] lol [02:57] so I heard [02:57] most of the people at my job dressed up for halloween [02:57] cool [02:58] yep [03:02] valorie, ovidiu-florin is going to give us some notes from his site about partitioning for the Disk Setup page [03:02] yes, I replied to him on the mail list [03:04] yea we are hiding the Installation page from the wiki because then it would show up everywhere else [03:11] why? [03:11] why would it show up everywhere else? [03:13] sorry, going afk for a few mins [03:13] well the wiki is synced to the server then the server is copied to the docs package [03:13] ah [03:13] got it [03:18] yep [03:18] it is still there just commented out [03:23] anyway off to bed work tomorrow [04:04] ahoneybun: There should probably be a separate working entry point page that doesn't cause stuff to get synced to the web site for work in progress pages so they are discoverable by people working on docs. [04:10] good idea, ScottK === TalkingMuffin is now known as Pici [08:15] kubotu: topic learn [08:15] Quintasan, you don't have 'topic' permissions here [08:15] apachelogger: fix it ^ [08:49] how do I download the source of the development version of a package (let's say digikam 3.5.0) into a kubuntu 13.10 installtion? [08:49] you'll have to build it from source [08:50] digikam's docs on probably techbase will tell you how [08:50] I build amarok from source [08:50] oh, a released version? [08:50] easier-- just get the tarball [08:51] but usually you want the latest, and that's in git [08:51] if you want a lot of that, use project neon [08:51] #project-neon for more [08:57] ahoneybun: Just a little nitpick: both the server (docs.k.o) and the package draw their content directly from the wiki. [08:57] Good morning to all ;) [09:00] morning [09:01] Hey Riddell, how are you? [09:01] bright and breezy ready for another day of Kubuntu! [09:01] although actually I'm looking at KDE frameworks today [09:03] Have fun ;) [09:19] hello world [09:19] thank you to the KC for the support [09:20] Hey ovidiu-florin, how are you? [09:20] hey lordievader [09:20] I'm great [09:21] ovidiu-florin: :) [09:21] you? [09:21] ovidiu-florin: I'm doing good too. For an assignment I'm allowed to program. I quite like that. [09:22] lordievader: for school, or? [09:22] ovidiu-florin: University. I'm doing an artistic minor program. [09:23] But first I should reinstall Kubuntu on my laptop. Unity is causing problems... [10:10] rshort: ping [10:12] Riddell, how can i help? [10:12] rshort: yo, I want to send some money from the kubuntu donations in the withsupport paypal account [10:12] rshort: it says paypal wants to phone for a security check [10:12] number is 0203 137 5342 [10:12] rshort: do you know if someone can answer and confirm? [10:13] I'll chek just about to take a call bear with me [10:19] hi vinay_ [10:19] just pasting him the details [10:19] gonna get him to call tariq [10:21] Hi Riddel, when do you want to send the donation? Tariq should be in the office soon if you can hold a bit? [10:22] vinay_: ok should be fine [10:22] ovidiu-florin: how's that? [10:33] Riddell: I have to book it in max 2 hours [10:33] or else it expires [10:47] kubotu: permissions view for Quintasan [10:47] couldn't find botuser Quintasan [10:47] Quintasan: ENOUSER [11:05] good morning [11:12] ahoneybun, valorie: my recording (uncut) is on http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/misc/Mumble-2013-10-30-20-41-53-kyofel.dyndns.org-Mixdown.mp3 [11:13] kubotu: register [11:14] kubotu: help [11:14] help topics: 10 core modules: auth, basics, config, filters, httputil, irclog, remote, unicode, userdata, wordlist; 56 plugins: alias, autoop, autorejoin, bans, bar, botsnack, chanserv, debug, dns, eightball, excuse, factoids, googlefight, greed, greet, hangman, host, identica, insult, iplookup, karma, keywords, lart, map, markov, modes, newpackage, nickrecover, nickserv, note, poll, q, quote, reaction, remind, ri, [11:14] roshambo, rot, rss, salut, script, search, sed, seen, shiritori, spotify, time, topic, translator, tumblr, uno, urban, usermodes, wheeloffortune, wserver, youtube (help for more info) [11:14] kubotu: auth [11:14] incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help auth' [11:15] apachelogger: how *does* one register? [11:21] Hey folks [11:22] yofel: Wow, long meeting 2:38 O.o [11:23] I think the core meeting is ~1:40, the rest is the docs folks talking [11:29] Munich, here I come :D [11:31] ovidiu-florin: Have fun ;) [11:32] ovidiu-florin: excellent news [11:33] yofel: I have no idea :P [11:33] kubotu: help auth [11:33] auth : log in as the bot owner; other commands: login, whoami, permissions syntax, permissions [re]set, permissions view, user, meet, hello, allow, deny [11:33] kubotu: help login [11:33] login [] []: logs in to the bot as botuser with password . 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[11:58] lordievader: thank you [12:05] Riddell: Should I forward you the bill and ticket? or just the bill? [12:07] ovidiu-florin: just the bill is fine [12:08] ok, you'll get it in a few moments [12:08] they'll sign and stamp it first [12:08] and then scan it and send it to me, then I'll forward it [12:09] this all seems very old fashioned [12:09] you know there's websites who do it without the faff of paper? :) [12:09] yeah,,, [12:09] they had this to [12:10] but they gave it up since not many people used it [12:10] don't ask me why [12:21] Riddell: sent === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [15:02] ktp 0.7.0 has been released. any plans of backporting it to saucy? [15:03] petersaints: anything good in it was want to backport? [15:03] martin is top of HN right now, neat [15:04] HN? [15:04] hacker news: https://news.ycombinator.com/news [15:04] actually, it's more like "startup news" [15:10] ah, sad result [15:14] I wonder if Google employees ever use G+, the whole UI is a mess, cant properly read longer postings because of the silly screen split, blech [15:14] at least on my laptop it's annoying [15:16] Riddell it now has metacontacts. It's useful to group the same person using different networks. [15:17] martin would have been better off perhaps by just doing the censoring/ignoring in silence. long detailed blog posts just give new ammunition [15:17] I wonder if someone told him that … [15:17] mikhas: G+ UI confuses me but it's the fashion these days, facebook's timeline is similar [15:17] FB chats are especially bad [15:18] those small windows at the bottom? and even if "fullscreened" it's like 25% of screen space === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina [15:45] ScottK: I just read the message on the mailing list. Isn't Muon being developed by echidnaman and aleixpol having a specific roadmap for 2.1? http://community.kde.org/Muon/2.1 Did something change? I see there is no commit activity (and in the past I submitted a patch for a bug I reported that hasn't been tested yet) [15:47] mikhas: that's why I use KDE Telepathy ;) [15:48] ovidiu-florin, some hotels etc. block that [15:48] in which case you have to use the websites [15:51] mikhas: hotels? [15:51] block what? the ports for the facebook and Google Talk ports? [15:51] yep [15:51] protocols* [15:52] so you cant use desktop apps [15:52] why would they block outgoing ports? [15:53] dunno, do I operate a hotel with crappy internet access? [15:53] ;-) [15:53] be what it may, I often cant use jabber etc [15:53] sometimes not even IRC [16:01] To the ninjas: I committed r278 of kubuntu-automation which changes kubuntu-inital-upload --sru to use bzr branches instead of operation on packages, I would appreciate it if someone could review that to make sure I didn't make a mistake in the logic [16:01] (that or let me do the upload for 4.11.3 saucy so I can test) [16:01] bbl [17:51] Riddell: Could you please add me to the attendants list on https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2013/11/de/Munich ? [17:56] or can I add myself? [18:03] I've added myself to the list. I hope that's ok. [18:21] hi, I've had several plasma-desktop crashes during a month or so, all of them having /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtScript.so.4 without debug symbols [18:21] I'm bit lost how I can install required debug package to get useful backtrace [18:32] Are there any Kubuntu-specific Easter Eggs? [18:43] anyone running the script? [18:45] for t or s? [18:45] either? [18:45] well, S first I suppose [18:45] I'll give s a try with my script modifications [18:45] okay [18:49] Guys! [18:49] Hey! [18:49] hmm [18:49] hey sheytan ! [18:50] Quick question: can i already use nvidia optimus with 13.10? [18:50] yofel: how well would upgrades ( from S to T ) work if we upload 4.11.3 for saucy first then work on T ? [18:50] ( not well I presume ) [18:50] sheytan: wrong channel [18:50] #ubuntu or #kubuntu [18:50] come on. You as devs should know that ;) [18:51] shadeslayer: not too well I think, t has a different boost version etc. [18:51] sheytan: maybe, but this is the wrong channel :) [18:51] I'll still upload s first to ninjas, t is pre-alpha, so if people use it, their proplem ;P [18:51] I for one do not know [18:51] hahah :) [18:52] * shadeslayer is on t [18:54] anyone want to test ktp 0.7 for saucy? [18:54] me! :D [18:54] if you answer my previous question :D [18:54] can I lie? :P [18:55] sure :D [18:55] yes [18:55] it works [18:55] and it's awesome [18:55] etc etc [18:55] damn [18:55] but the kernel already supports it, does it? [18:56] well, another question. If I install the nvidia driver, it will break X, right? [18:56] * sheytan did it in 13.04 and it broke X [18:57] no clue [18:59] * sheytan is going to try out the new nvidia drivers === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.11.3 notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs http://goo.gl/vHRjj | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | Shirts! https://holvi.com/shop/Kubuntu/ [19:20] shadeslayer: do you actually want to bother with trusty? unless you want to shove it in right before 4.12b1 [19:20] good point [19:20] lets just upload 4.12 to Trusty [19:21] doing some package comparison with debian might be more useful [19:21] esp. for the 4.11 split stuff [19:24] at least my sru changes seem to do what they're supposed to do. I still need to write a mail to explain what I did though. [19:27] * shadeslayer can get on it on Monday, not before [19:38] I'm off the whole day tomorrow, but maybe I'll find some time on sunday === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U [20:48] thanks, yofel [21:03] hey val [21:03] valorie, [21:04] hi [21:04] I saw that the audio is out now === jmux_ is now known as jmux [21:05] yes, I've not had a chance to listen yet [21:33] jussi: I got my shirt! [21:33] it's beautiful [21:33] even my windows-hubby says so [21:33] :-) [22:50] howdy [23:03] valorie, I want to get one [23:08] hurry up if you want a polo [23:08] they are almost gone afaik [23:09] next jussi will do tshirts or hoodies, I think [23:18] hoodies! [23:18] well XL are gone