[00:00] holstein: it hangs, no output at all, i have to ctrl-c to do anything [00:00] nothing shows up in auth.log either [00:01] marklar: if you can log in in TTY, then its not a permission issue.. [00:01] holstein: interestingly, it doesn't work over ssh in tty or term emulator [00:02] marklar: then, that seems like a permission issue... so you *cannot* use sudo in virtual terminals? [00:02] holstein: correct in neither virtual terminals nor via ssh [00:03] marklar: what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ? [00:05] holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6338498/ [00:06] holstein: i have a much simpler set up on my laptop, if you'd like that output instead [00:06] marklar: so, you were promted for a password? [00:06] marklar: i was looking for a specific sudo error.. [00:06] oh, no, i did that in the virtual terminal [00:07] marklar: and, that doesnt matter, correct? [00:07] holstein: when i tried it in the terminal emulator, it hung [00:07] marklar: you cant do sudo *anywhere*, correct? [00:07] holstein: i can use sudo when i am in (i think they're called) virtual terminals, i.e. ctrl-F1 to ctlr-F6 [00:08] marklar: ok, so that means to me, you dont have a permissions issue [00:08] holstein: thanks for the help, btw, usually I can solve my own problems, but this one has me stumped [00:08] marklar: what i would do is sudo apt-get something like terminator, and test there.. then,, i think its safe to assume the issue is with the config for the xfce terminal [00:09] !info terminator [00:09] terminator (source: terminator): multiple GNOME terminals in one window. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 335 kB, installed size 2048 kB [00:09] holstein: i already tried that with sakura, no sudo there [00:10] marklar: anything else relevant you have tried? or specific output from anywhere? [00:11] holstein: that's it, as far as I can remember. I was updating late at night. The only other relevant fact is that it is affecting 2 computers [00:12] marklar: how about gksudo ? [00:12] holstein: that and policykit work fine [00:13] marklar: that, meaning, that you can run something as root with gksudo ? [00:13] holstein: correct [00:13] marklar: i would move the user .config files and test [00:14] holstein: seems to be still hanging... i moved them to .config_old [00:14] marklar: them, being *all* of the user home? [00:15] holstein: ohhh.. gotcha... one second [00:15] or, create another user and give it sudo privs [00:16] holstein: doesn't seem to help... I just did a quick and dirty move, it could require me to log out and back in. I'll try adding a user now === emma is now known as EmmyTheBee [00:19] holstein: new account is having the same issues [00:19] marklar: i know i prefer fresh installs.. they take about 8 minutes typically [00:19] you can try "sudo strace", but its seems like its not related to user config [00:20] marklar: do you have any errors with apt? [00:20] holstein: i prefer them as well, but I have a complex set up with raids, lvms, and luks with smart cards, so it's a pain [00:20] http://askubuntu.com/questions/326194/sudo-hangs-without-prompting-for-password [00:20] holstein: no problems w/ apt-get [00:21] marklar: i would try main ubuntu support.. [00:21] holstein: ok, thanks for your help, i really appreciate it [00:21] marklar: eh.. wish i had something that would help [00:31] hey guys, I goto sound settings and see the sound bar reporting sound but hear nothing, have 2 outputs hdmi and analog [00:33] lol nvm I just thougth of checking alsamixer, and sure enough analog channel was muted [01:28] Anybody know why, even though the option "Automatically Save Session on Logout" isn't checked, that every time I log in it opens up every single program I had running the last time I logged out or restarted the computer? [01:37] because at one time it did save a session [01:38] not checking the box doesn't erase the last session it saved [01:39] Gerowen: http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#session_manager might be relevant for you.. [01:47] holstein: Deleting the contents of ~/.cache/sessions fixed it, thanks, :-) [02:09] hi..anyone here to answer a basic question? [02:09] xubuntu922: ask and see [02:10] really...simple...how do I get unmuted!!!..no sound...! [02:10] running out of ideas [02:10] !sound [02:10] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [02:11] xubuntu922: i usually open alsamixer and trust no labels.. i try pavucontrol [02:11] kk [02:11] been there..just acted up yesterday.. [02:11] xubuntu922: been where? [02:12] to the mixer [02:12] acted up? you mean, sound worked and something broke it? what? [02:12] xubuntu922: to what mixer? [02:12] xubuntu922: pavucontrol *and* alsamixer? [02:12] probably me, messing around.. [02:41] i have a wireless logitech trackball and every so often i boot up and the cursor moves so slow that it's unusable. i reboot and it works fine again. i've seen the same problem on the latest ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu. any ideas what might be happening? [02:41] Logitech M570\ [02:41] bad hardware? driver support issue [02:41] definitely feels like a driver/software issue. [02:42] i wonder if there is some process i can restart instead of rebooting when it happens === TalkingMuffin is now known as Pici === z_ is now known as Guest10961 [07:05] Anyone else having issues with Xubuntu upgrade to 13.10 from 13.04. I hit the upgrade button and now everything out of whack. nm-applet crashes, my wifi wont connect and keeps reconnecting. [07:05] i tried sudo service network-manager restart and its running but not showing in panel [07:06] also 'notification area' is not showing under Panel->Add New Items I also changed the xfce panel icon size to 18px [07:06] Would Wicd be a solution or is this just an easy fix. thanks in advancer and i apologize if this is against the rules (asking for help). [07:06] let me guess, broadcom wifi? [07:06] yup howd you know [07:07] LOL lots of problems with broadcom. give me a min [07:07] drivers are working still [07:07] it was working smoothly in 13.04. thanks much appreciated [07:08] My b43 took it well. [07:08] !broadcom [07:08] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [07:11] Hello opensource people. I would like to know how can I have iTunes on xubuntu so I can sync my iphone? [07:11] it must be either broadcom or some kind of xfce setting error [07:11] my bluetooth icon wont right click either [07:12] !iphone | xubuntu782 [07:12] xubuntu782: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [07:13] broadcom coporation" BCM4313 802.11b/n/g wireless lan controller Using broadcom 802.11 linux sta wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernel-source (proprietary)/ 1 driver in use [07:15] Thanks for the link mines a bcm43xx. Any reason why 13.10 would mess it up? [07:16] or better yet could i burn a 13.04 disc and downgrade/repair [07:18] Netbook has that one IIRC, I'll find out when I update I guess. Sorry can't help, my other b43 uses the other driver. [07:19] !rockbox [07:19] rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started! [07:20] Fantastic firmware. ^ [07:20] also check into rhythmbox [07:24] no biggie thanks for the help i'm gonna be troubleshooting till it's fixed. maybe the open source driver will work although Proprietary Broadcom STA Wireless driver [07:24] installing rockbox means I will no longer have iOS 6? Sorry Iam noob [07:25] For Chip ID BCM4311 which is my chip and it seems to be working. no problems with router [07:25] xubuntu782: It's not for the iPhone, that'd be for the iPod. [07:25] just wont connect. but im off to bed night [07:29] thanks === batperson is now known as aperson [08:04] I am installing xbubuntu-restricted-extras and there is a pup-up about microsoft fonts or something, what should I do? What would Stallman do? :P [08:05] install the fonts. no biggie [08:08] okie [08:39] Hello [08:39] Loving Xubuntu so far :) [08:41] How do I install apps using tar.gz files? [08:41] illage2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25961/how-to-install-a-tar-gz-or-tar-bz2-file [08:41] Thanks :) [08:48] illage2: which app are you installing though? [08:48] Komodo edit. [08:49] illage2: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-komodo-ubuntu-13-04-12-04-12-10/ [08:49] the easy way [08:49] :) Ah thanks. [08:49] there usually is an easier way than compiling stuff yourself ;-) [08:50] Aye. I'm not a fan of compling stuff. I'm fairly new to Linux so [08:51] illage2: google search can help you alot :) [08:51] Aye, I'll have to try that next time lol [08:53] illage2: I'd always start from the premise that anything is available without having to compile and work backwards from there :) [08:54] Well that's what kinda drew me to linux in the first place. There's always a way. [08:54] it isn't always the case - but it's better in my opinion to assume compiling to be the last option :) [08:56] :) Agreed [09:03] Wait so its CTRL + Shift + V to paste in Xubuntu? O_O [09:03] * illage2 is a noob [09:04] or ctrl+shift+insert ? [09:05] :O [09:05] I didn't know that either [09:15] erm. it's prolly just shift+insert [09:15] it's possible also that copy/paste shortcuts are app dependant [09:17] Shift+Ins is secondary/sel clipboard. [09:22] What would be the best screen recording software for Linux? I've tried Record my Desktop and Kazam and they don't seem to work all that great. [09:37] Xubuntu je podle mě lepší než Ubuntu, co myslíte? [09:37] Xubuntu is better than Ubuntu, it's true? [09:38] it's up to you and your preferences. [09:38] for some people yes, probably, for some no. [12:10] Hello [12:11] JanShanghai, nihao [12:11] I have a red ! at the top right of my screen for about a month now. When I "check for updates" I get a report that says "this is a serious problems. Please contact the developers [12:11] JanShanghai, and did you? [12:11] I opened a terminal (not that I know what Im really doing) and typed sudo apt-get update [12:12] I will copy and paste what happened here, now (on the suggestion of someone here last time I logged on) [12:12] its not quite done yet, waiting [12:13] OK here it is. It's long [12:13] Err http://linux.dropbox.com precise Release.gpg Connection failed Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise Release Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg [72 B] Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise/main TranslationIndex Hit http:/ [12:13] Use a pastebin. [12:13] Err http://linux.dropbox.com precise Release.gpg Connection failed Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise Release Get:1 http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release.gpg [72 B] Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex Ign http://linux.dropbox.com precise/main TranslationIndex Hit http:/ [12:14] STOP IT [12:14] !pastebin | JanShanghai [12:14] JanShanghai: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:14] OK I'll try. sorry [12:14] JanShanghai, you were advised to contact the developers. that means: contact the developers. It's like the warning light on your car. If you see it, it does NOT mean, time to take a cross-country drive. [12:15] i remember this kind of friendliness last time i came into this support room [12:15] I will move on, thanks anyway [12:16] It is pretty unfriendly to spam a channel with random copy&pastes. [12:16] random? [12:16] i have a problem and am fairly computer illiterate [12:16] pardon me === aicasn-away is now known as aicasn === makimac is now known as makimac|afk [13:51] hi [13:52] Ubuntu freezes on battery. a problem that has existed since 10.10 [13:52] why dont anybody do something about that? [13:52] didn't know it did that [13:53] ubuntu is useless on laptops. what is the meaning of it if it doesnt run on battery [13:53] I tried tlp. same prolem [13:54] I have had no such problem. works fine for me [13:56] nobody has reported a bug, developers don't have access to a device so they could fix it or they just don't have time for it [13:56] Sysi: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+freesez+on+battery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#channel=fs&q=ubuntu+freezes+on+battery&spell=1 [13:57] that's still quite generic [13:58] and still not a bug report [13:58] and still doesn't have specific information from your case to help to identify and fix the problem for you [13:59] Myrtti: there are many bug reports you can see on the link I sent you [13:59] which one of them is yours? [13:59] Myrtti: Ubuntu 13.04 Thinkpad edge e330 [14:00] not that I can help - I can't. But just aimlessly saying "it's broken, why haven't you done something" is a bit useless [14:00] I google a lot. I dont bugreport [14:01] most people are the same - they've not really got much of a leg to stand on when complaining though [14:01] elfy: I use ubuntu in many years. I dont have time for htat [14:02] got time to pointlessly complain though [14:02] I can see that [14:03] "I don't know how to fix it or report it, but, I want it fixed NOW" sound about right? ;) [14:03] anyone with any actual support questions? [14:03] not at the moment Sysi === z is now known as Guest55501 [14:30] is it ok to update xubuntu 12.04 DE by using official xfce PPA? [14:31] xubuntu512: what do you mean by updating? and what PPA specifically? [14:32] Update xfce 4.8 to 4.10 with this ppa https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 [14:33] well it's ok, i've done it before but it's still a bit at your own risk [14:33] but if you're not satisfied, you should be able to downgrade the packages again [14:34] either by using a tool like ppapurge or doing it by hand [14:34] depending on your experience [14:35] ok sure [14:36] what about 4.12? i dont get this timeline https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.12/roadmap [14:41] xubuntu512: well it'll get released when it's ready [14:42] is it ok to update kernel manually? [14:42] what do you mean with "is it ok"? "is it safe"? no. [14:46] I downloaded xubuntu 12.04.3 but it installs the old 3.2 kernel, the releae notes state kernel 3.8 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu [14:53] xubuntu512: are you sure you've installed all updates? [14:53] you might have to enable some update channels in settings > software sources > updates tab [14:54] ochosi: Nope, I just tested on livecd [15:01] should i go with 12.04 or 13.10? [15:04] xubuntu512 do you want LTS or no? [15:05] i cant decide [15:05] xubuntu512, is this install for work? or something? or just for fun and personal use [15:06] fun, personal use and little school work [15:07] xubuntu512, then i would just use 13.10 honestly [15:08] 32 bit or 64 bit? [15:08] 64bit if you have the hardware [15:09] i have only 2GB ram [15:09] my cpu supports 64bit though [15:09] xubuntu512, you can run on as low as 512mb === makimac|afk is now known as makimac [15:10] 2GB of RAM is fine considering this is Xfce were talking here [15:12] encryptin home folder would reduce performance? [15:14] i have low spec netbook [15:19] xubuntu512 it will run just fine === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [15:55] can i uninstall abiword and gnumeric? or are those packages part of xfce? [16:00] xubuntu512: yes you can [16:05] ubuntu software center crushes uppon uninstall and i get an error about not having available memory to create a crush report [16:09] xubuntu512: can you run this in a terminal please and then paste the url you get here [16:09] df -h | pastebinit [16:09] how can i create notification by terminal? for example on ubuntu I would run indicator-message "Thunderbird" "New Mail" [16:10] Ok sure [16:12] wrong package actually it's not indicator-message rather notifyosd [16:21] elfy: Sorry, the program "software-center" closed unexpectedly Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers. [16:21] elfy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6342034/ [16:29] hola [16:29] hay alguien en español [16:29] aaah - refers to RAM possibly, run it from a terminal, command is software-center [16:30] xubuntu512: once it's crashed - copy the output you seen in the terminal - all of it to paste.ubuntu.com [16:30] alguien en español [16:30] !es | roberto__ [16:30] roberto__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [16:56] elfy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6342221/ [16:58] this i tried to uninstall gnumeric, but there was no message this time about not enough memory [16:58] this is the first time i face just an error, on ubuntu i had no such problem [17:03] I mean crush not error [17:04] xubuntu512: i dont use the software center.. you might be trying to compare differnt version of the software center, not xubuntu vs ubuntu [17:04] xubuntu512: you can still install and use synaptic.. [17:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6342316/ [17:11] xubuntu512: have you tested the memory? [17:11] how [17:11] xubuntu512: there is one at boot time in grub, and from each live CD [17:12] no never [17:14] xubuntu512: you might want to test the hardware.. the memory and the hard drive.. or, use apt-get and see if you see the same errors [17:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6342350/ [17:20] xubuntu512: i would run "sudo apt-get autoremove".. then, i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [17:24] The following packages will be upgraded: grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common [17:24] Software Updater says that my computer is up to date though [17:25] xubuntu512: igrnore that.. do the command i gave to upgrade and reboot.. and consider not using the auto updater and software center [17:27] okie. How can I produce a notification via terminal? [17:28] xubuntu512: i dont know what you are asking.. but, feel free and use the GUI tools.. you can file bugs against them if you find issues that you can reproduce [17:31] I wanna a have a notification when I have a new mail. So I need to insert a command line on Xfce4 Mailwatch Plugin where it says "Run on new messages". For example, on Ubuntu which uses notify-osd for notifications I give on terminal "notify-osd "Thunderbird" "New mail" and I have a preview notification of just that [17:32] xubuntu512: use notify-osd if you prefer.. [17:33] I gave it a go but it's a bit out of place [17:33] xubuntu512: then, you just have to decide which you prefer.. i personally switch to it, and prefer it [17:34] elijah@netbook:~$ xfce4-notifyd hi xfce4-notifyd: command not found [17:34] see what i mean? [17:34] it does not work [17:35] xubuntu512, what are you trying todo [17:35] sorry came in just now [17:35] make a notification [17:35] awesome [17:35] manually by terminal [17:35] notifyd hi [17:36] notifyd: command not found [17:36] notify-send "hi" [17:37] finally! tanks brainwash :D [17:37] :) [17:37] and everyone ofc for their effort [17:41] how long does Memtest86 take? [17:42] as long as you let it run [17:42] I usually recommend at minimum overnight [17:43] does it ever end? [17:44] xubuntu512: not that im aware of.. [17:46] should I reduce swap? [17:46] xubuntu512: not to address anything you have mentioned above [17:59] brainwash: there was a command to add an icon to the notification message but i dont remember it and i cant find it. Do you know how? [18:00] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/notify-send.1.html says -i xubuntu512 [18:02] rigt holstein but where are the default icons located? [18:02] right* [18:02] xubuntu512: i would just search for icons, or make a directory and put my own in [18:03] /usr/share/icons maybe [18:10] thanks holstein :) [18:25] Shumway + firefox <3 [18:25] good-bye adobe :P [18:29] Hi i'm currently reinstalling 13.04 on my old pc.. do you think stepping to 13.10 is useful? === xb13 is now known as matricule728 [18:31] with 13.04 you will have support for 3 more months [18:31] you will lose support for 13.04 in a few months, but 14.04 will be release a few later, so its up to you. [18:31] there is no reason *not* to move to 13.10 [18:32] *cough* gtk3 indicators *cough* [18:32] *sigh* :D [18:32] thx [18:39] omg [18:39] == Noskcaj [~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj] [18:39] your IP is hidden :p [18:40] hey xubuntu512. You get that cloak when you become an ubuntu member. But you can get a hidden one by asking [18:41] like mine :) [18:41] what are the system requirements for running xubuntu? [18:42] xubuntu721, 8gb HD, more than 512mb ram, and a processor that supports PAE [18:42] GridCube: :o amazon knows who you are tough :P [18:42] xubuntu512, google, might, amazon not so much [18:43] amazon-lens-shopping :P [18:43] no idea what is that [18:43] heh [18:43] xubuntu512: the lenses aren't part of xubuntu [18:43] oh, you mean the unity thing, you don't have to worry about that on xubuntu [18:44] I know elfy, I was just kidding :) === xubuntu is now known as Guest6225 [18:48] football manager 2014 also available for linux people!! \o/ [18:51] !ot | xubuntu512 [18:51] xubuntu512: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [18:51] i should join then :p === xubuntu512 is now known as Junka === Junka is now known as Guest30221 === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U === alan5 is now known as eipi === eipi is now known as alan5 === map is now known as Guest5980 === Punna is now known as Pwnna === makimac_ is now known as makimac [23:26] does XUBUNTU load on CISCO UCS? [23:28] check the requirements of xubuntu and the specs of cisco ucs. [23:31] the specs match fine [23:31] theres a problem recognizing the raid controller [23:31] on v. 12.04 [23:31] is there any work around for that? thanks! [23:31] Then you know the answer to your question. [23:32] So, the only problem is the raid controller? Could you install another? [23:33] unfortunately no [23:33] it is the only raid controller driver supported by cisco [23:33] ls [23:34] heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [23:34] xubuntu325: Ignore set. [23:36] posioned_dragon [23:36] do you ahve any other ideas? [23:37] sorry, no. [23:37] No experience with raids [23:38] xubuntu634: which raid controller exactly is it? [23:41] Intel ICH10R [23:41] xubuntu634 [23:42] Thats a fakeraid controller, isnt it? [23:42] Yes, it is. Just dont use it. [23:44] unfortunately its what is built into the service profiles in the cisco ucs === lechunx is now known as le_chunx [23:56] He will notice that you dont have to use that raid function. [23:58] * Poisoned_Dragon shrugs.