[06:29] oh yeah, I was going to mention this a while back, but forgot [06:30] wubi doesn't have Ubuntu GNOME in its list of Ubuntu flavours, but it does install after adding it in [09:32] Hello, is there anyone awake? === x-Na_ is now known as x-Na [09:33] I finally got around investigating my problem with gnome-shell crashing when changing users, as this is a multiuser computer. [09:33] And it seems that whenever I change from LightDM to GDM, it causes the gnome-shell of the first logged in user to crash [09:34] ...when user is switched [09:34] This does not happen when running same setup in Virtualbox, though [09:34] So first thought I get is that it is a combination of GDM and NVidia drivers, probably [09:36] I haven't found any relative bugs from launchpad, though. The problem is that it is REALLY hard to find any help with a multiuser setup, seems almost that it is not very common for people to run multiuser setups [09:37] But anyways, I want to file a bug about this, but I'd appreciate any help so that I get all the necessary information along so that it won't get just closed as invalid etc === rajasun is now known as Rajsun === rajasun is now known as Rajsun [16:55] Hi all. Are the instructions here the best way to go about checking out 3.10 on a fresh Ubuntu Gnome install? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/09/how-to-install-gnome-310-in-ubuntu-1310.html [16:55] short version: still need to add next and staging PPAs? [17:39] I'd be so happy to help answer if people would stick around long enough :( [17:58] roasted: it's hard [17:58] :) [18:18] hi [18:22] roasted, well I've been here all day after I explained my situation :D [18:27] hi MaverickPT [18:27] x-Na: and it got solved? :) [18:28] was just wondering how long each release is supported until but I found it all by myself [18:29] you guys running 13.10 yet? [18:31] MaverickPT: sticking on the LTS :) [18:45] teemperor, nobody answered anything :) [18:45] x-Na: that's sad, what's your problem? [18:46] Switching to GDM cause the gnome-shell of the first logged user to crash (disappear completely, leaving desktop unusable) when switching users [18:46] Happens on 3.8 and 3.10 [19:18] ...and silence again... [19:19] I am suspecting that at some point I will have explain to my wife why we do not use windows. And this does not really improve the situation... [19:20] +to [19:20] x-Na: GDM knocks off a current session? How? [19:20] One second... [19:20] session stays, but gnome-shell crashes and leaves an empty white backgound [19:20] x-Na: you can ping people :) [19:21] x-Na: sometimes people get busy anf forget stuff :D [19:21] i know [19:21] with kids and all [19:21] x-Na: using another greeter? lightdm has a lot of nice ones [19:22] hbut [19:22] lock screen works only with gdm, right? [19:22] wife was wondering where it had gone [19:22] hence this situation [19:22] x-Na: AFAIK it uses the gnome lockscreen even with lightdm [19:22] 3.8 does not [19:23] earlier the situation was different [19:23] It seems to have changed from 3.8 onwards [19:24] I would use 3.10 but it needs GDM [19:24] works like a charm as long as there is only one user logged on [19:24] cant reproduce on virtualbox [19:25] And I am losing my battery on my phone. [19:27] x-Na: hmm, weird [19:27] i'm using 3.4 [19:27] kinda [19:29] With 3.6 there were problems with GDM too, it had problems, but it worked in sense of logging and switching users [19:29] But as I said, usually multiuser setups get neglected, IMHO [19:29] x-Na: as the guy making the pantheon-greeter [19:29] yes [19:29] priority is low [19:29] :( [19:30] Which is sad, though [19:30] x-Na: yeah, multi-user systems with graphical display are not thaat common [19:30] I wouldn't want to switch to Windows for reasons like this, have been GNU/Linux only since 2004. [19:30] that* [19:30] But in 2004 things worked [19:30] What happened in these 9 years [19:31] x-Na: true, so much stuff gets broken [19:31] x-Na: i would say: use elementary OS but you were already in #elementary because of bugs ;) [19:31] and it's not my job to play the advocate in a gnome channel. Just helping out because it seems that gnome-ubuntu is low on manpower [19:32] I fell in love with Linux almost instantly, when I started back in 1998 [19:32] btw, is the bug also happening on other distros? [19:32] fedora? arch or something? [19:32] I haven't tried [19:32] As I have only one desktop-pc that needs to work [19:32] if you have another system, you can push that bug to the gnome devs (instead of the gnome-ubuntu devs) [19:32] And I really do not want to go rpm [19:33] nobody wants, rpm is fugly [19:33] you could try debian :) [19:33] It does not have 3.10 [19:33] I switched to ubuntu back in the old days as it got me the latest Gnome faster [19:33] yeah, not the latest, but you enjoy stability :) [19:34] ubuntu turned the non-LTS to a beta-test thingy [19:34] Well [19:34] No comment on that [19:34] So far everything else has worked [19:34] But as they focus on Unity... [19:34] Which just does not appeal to me at all [19:35] Debian might have 3.8, though [19:36] but I don't want to go through the hassle of installing and reinstalling just for test... [19:38] I did file a bug, but let's see what happens [19:39] x-Na: gnome bugtracker? [19:41] No, ubuntu-bug [20:07] hi where do i report a bug on the latest ISO [20:12] if anyone sees this later, the entire X Window System freezes when columns are dragged in GNOME System Monitor. This affects the 64 and 32 bit versions [22:26] hi