[00:00] <H0nyT4p> slax is ok
[00:00] <bekks> !ot | H0nyT4p
[00:01] <H0nyT4p> arch ( need to know. (bit leet)).
[00:01] <H0nyT4p> fedora (aka redhat)
[00:02] <bekks> H0nyT4p: The one who asked already left. So stop it please.
[00:03] <H0nyT4p> ok sorry bekks
[00:03] <H0nyT4p> need pay attention
[00:05] <new0> hitsujiTMO, minimec that weird, i just run netbeans i have downloaded (PHP) and it's seems to run it good and didn't say about no JDK
[00:08] <new0> hitsujiTMO, minimec ok. now i took the path that php-linux version i downloaded and put it in the one you give me (minimec) and this time it's giving me the msg of "The specified JDK folder contains JRE, but a full JDK is required.
[00:11] <new0> minimec, anyway i am running it now
[00:12] <manson452> hola que tal buenas tardes
[00:13] <new0> minimec, hitsujiTMO ok, sweeet :) NetBeans IDE 7.4 :)
[00:13] <SysNeko> https://gist.github.com/SysNeko/7260550 I dun goofed my unity panel. Any thoughts on how I can reinstall it?
[00:17] <minimec> SysNeko: reinstallation is useless, as your setting is a local settin gfor user 'reiji'. logout/login once. Maybe the value is recreated and reassined to defaults. Otherwise create it yourself with gconf-editor.
[00:18] <SysNeko> Yeah panel is completely missing in dconf. I tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop but that of course didn't work.
[00:18] <SysNeko> I just need it to fix my xchat systray icon and minimize.
[00:18] <SysNeko> Because I am too lazy to set up irsse on this install.
[00:20] <minimec> SysNeko: 'sudo apt-get install irssi' and copy over the .irssi folder isn't that hard... ;)
[00:20] <SysNeko> It is when you are a lazy student. :<
[00:20] <SysNeko> I'm just gonna do it
[00:20] <SysNeko> xchat is just blah
[00:22] <Ari-Yang> SysNeko: hexchat is better
[00:22] <Ari-Yang> SysNeko: http://hexchat.github.io/index.html
[00:22] <SysNeko> I haven't tried it. I use weechat or irssi mainly
[00:22] <SysNeko> I am trying ubuntu 13.10 though.
[00:27] <ubukou> hey folks, just an opinion im trying to overclock my pc. in the process of doing that i have a dilema that i dont know how to calculate. i have 4 x DDR2 800 CL4 1gb rams and 2 x ddr2 cl5 2gb rams. now im running a combination of cl5 and cl4 . do you think it would be best to run the cl4 and lose 2 gigs of ram ?
[00:27] <bekks> ubukou: Ask ##hardware
[00:28] <ubukou> bekks , thanks, wasnt sure.
[00:29] <wafflejock> ubukou: benchmarking will only tell
[00:29] <tvillerealest> does anyone know how to install the 64-bit distribution of skype on ubuntu?
[00:30] <ubukou> wafflejock, i ll se what i can find out.. :) thanks
[00:30] <SysNeko> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[00:31] <fatmandown> Is there a reason my USB wifi dongle would work on the LiveCD, but when I get the OS installed on my HD, it doesn't?
[00:31] <CoolmarioDude> Hi
[00:31] <CoolmarioDude> I have a technical question about ubuntu
[00:31] <wafflejock> !ask | CoolmarioDude
[00:32] <CoolmarioDude> Is VGA-s3, 512mb, amd athlon 2400+ XP, good enough to run latest ubuntu version? Current version on that PC Is 10.10
[00:32] <ctcb> I have a problem with Ubuntu. I bought a new laptop, and it was running slow on the internet, the internet speed test on it is at 1.0 Megabits Upload, whereas my PC gets 5.0 Megabits Upload.
[00:32] <CoolmarioDude> Its a 10 yr old compaq computer.. It don't have usb boot up support but it does support boot from live cd
[00:33] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[00:34] <stevecoh1> how, in xubuntu do I prevent it from launching on restart everything it had launched in the previous session?
[00:34] <CoolmarioDude> wafflejock thanks.. The machine did run windows xp sp3 about 3 years ago but it was slow.. :| I hated windows xp
[00:35] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: you're better off running Xubuntu
[00:35] <wafflejock> XFCE is lighter weight
[00:35] <histo> stevecoh1: configure xfce to not save your session
[00:35] <SysNeko> Steve just edit the startup items.
[00:35] <ctcb> The download Speed on my Laptop is capped at 128KB/s, whereas my PC gets 512KB/s. That "small" drop is enough to make loading websites, playing YT Videos and even playing Text MUD Games.
[00:35] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: not as pretty but will be faster
[00:35] <SysNeko> Oh he is talking about that.
[00:35] <stevecoh1> ok, where is that config?
[00:35] <SysNeko> That is annoying
[00:35] <histo> ctcb: wireless vs. wired?
[00:35] <CoolmarioDude> wafflejock, its my dad's computer we are very use to the look of ubuntu
[00:35] <ctcb> histo, Wireless.
[00:35] <histo> ctcb: yes is the desktop wired?
[00:36] <ctcb> histo, No, they are both Wireless.
[00:36] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: you can try with Unity  if it's too slow you can install gnome-desktop and choose that at login
[00:36] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: that should be close to what you have going right now
[00:36] <histo> ctcb: I would check your link quality perhaps one is getting a worse signal causing slower speeds
[00:36] <CoolmarioDude> Alright thanks :)
[00:36] <stevecoh1> In "Session and Startup" I find a list of things it will start, but the ones that keep starting are not listed there.
[00:37] <Axlin> CoolmarioDude: It won't perform well, especially considering Unity "requires" 1 GB RAM. Xubuntu or Lubuntu are better suited for those specs.
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> stevecoh1:  check /etc/xdg/autostart/
[00:37] <wafflejock> CoolmarioDude: np lots of options for DE too https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_Environment
[00:37] <ctcb> histo: How would I check the link quality on my Laptop?
[00:37] <stevecoh1> thank you dr willis
[00:37] <toafan> stevecoh1: are these things you've opened, or just stuff?
[00:38] <wafflejock> ctcb: iwconfig
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> stevecoh1:  some desktops have a session memory/save setting where it reopend stuff that was open when you quit.
[00:38] <histo> ctcb: iwconfig in a terminal
[00:39] <Boreeas> Is there a way to see what binary a window is coming from?
[00:39] <ctcb> histo: http://pastebin.com/szvLbAFL
[00:39] <toafan> Boreeas: like, what binary executable?  Like, what program?
[00:39] <gfallbackjcbv> im trying to install muse 2.1.2 from command line its not letting me make can someone help
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> Boreeas:  xwininfo from a terminal perhaps
[00:40] <stevecoh1> Yes, Dr. Willis, I'm looking for that setting and not finding it.
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> thats tives the window id.. now how to mapt that to a executable..
[00:40] <stevecoh1> Like, once, I opened KeePassx.  Now it opens every time I restart xubuntu.
[00:40] <wafflejock> yeah
[00:41] <wafflejock> that's a nice one though xwininfo
[00:41] <toafan> window title may say something useful
[00:41] <stevecoh1> Yet I don't see that listed anywhere
[00:41] <toafan> stevecoh1: that sounds like xfce is "saving your session", and re-opening it the next time you log in.
[00:41] <stevecoh1> Yes, it does.
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> stevecoh1:  if its not  in /etc/xdg/autostart/ or ~/.config/autostart/ im not sure where else to look. unless theres some saved sessions for uour desktop. What desktop are you using?
[00:41] <toafan> stevecoh1: that's a feature
[00:41] <toafan> supposedly
[00:42] <SysNeko> AN anooying feature.
[00:42] <wafflejock> in ksysmonitor you can right click a process and show window
[00:42] <stevecoh1> However, "Automatically save session on logout" is NOT checked.
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> look in .config/xfce4/*   perhaps
[00:42] <toafan> stevecoh1: is there a "select a session" popup or something like when you log in?
[00:42] <stevecoh1> no, toafan
[00:43] <toafan> I got nothing, then
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> if the thing starts for a newly made user. then that would point to a  system item starting it.
[00:43] <Boreeas> toafan: Yeah. I have multiple thunderbird binaries, and I want to see which one is executed when starting Thunderbird via Alt+F2
[00:44] <toafan> Boreeas: oh, that... I'm not sure
[00:44] <jeffrey_f> GnuPG question:  looking for a bash script to read a file holding only email addresses, search for and import keys if they exist.
[00:44] <toafan> Boreeas: there's a way to check terminal ones, you could try that
[00:44] <Boreeas> Actually, thinkiing about it, 'which thunderbird' might be easier
[00:45] <toafan> Boreeas: 'which thunderbird' should help, but if you're running a .desktop file, it may run something else
[00:46] <ctcb> What are some steps that I could do to make my Laptop not be slow on my Wireless Internet? Before I formatted it with Ubuntu (Instead of Windows 7), It was going at my normal speed. iwconfig gave me this: whttp://pastebin.com/szvLbAFL
[00:46] <wafflejock> stevecoh1: haha just tried logging into my remote desktop with XFCE to see if it had something in the settings similar to the options in KDE and I have no system settings manager installed in XFCE
[00:46] <SysNeko> Slow internet speed? Or system?
[00:46] <ctcb> SysNeko, Slow Internet Speed on Ubuntu.
[00:47] <Boreeas> Yeah, found it. Thanks toafan
[00:47] <fatmandown> Is there a reason my USB wifi dongle would work on the LiveCD, but when I get the OS installed on my HD, it doesn't?
[00:47] <toafan> ctcb, internet in general or just that computer?  Just ubuntu, or that computer period?
[00:47] <mjayk> fatmandown: any way the liveCD is using a different / older kernal?
[00:47] <wafflejock> ctcb: I'm getting 20Mbps down and 5Mbps up here :)
[00:47] <fatmandown> that'd be very strange
[00:48] <fatmandown> i don't think so
[00:48] <wafflejock> ctcb: check out ntop possibly
[00:48] <jeffrey_f> ctcb, what channel is your wireless on.  You may be sharing channels with others in your neighborhood, which will slow you down.
[00:48] <mjayk> fatmandown: if its an old iso could be possible but I agree would be strange
[00:48] <fatmandown> it's an old dell optiplex 170l- not TOO old, should be able to run 13 but it can't
[00:48] <toafan> fatmandown: did you install propritary/non-free drivers when you installed?
[00:48] <fatmandown> didn't have internet to do so
[00:48] <wafflejock> ctcb: also as jeffrey_f said here you can get a WifiAnalyzer app for a smartphone if you've got one and easily get a visual on what channels are used
[00:48] <ctcb> toafan, Just this laptop. It was running at 4Mb/s before I switched to Ubuntu, now it's at 1Mb/s.
[00:49] <SysNeko> Yeah I have never had a problem with ubuntu effecting my wifi speed
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> fatmandown:  boot the live cd. if wifi works.. see whta modules its loading/useing (save the output of lsmod)   then boot the system. and compare its lsmod output
[00:49] <topper4125> if he installed an LTS version then the downloaded iso *could* have an old kernal, that would be updated during install if he told the installer to update during install
[00:49] <ctcb> wafflejock, jeffrey_f: Channel 6.
[00:49] <fatmandown> topper4125, I didn't use the internet to update
[00:50] <wafflejock> ctcb: you need to scan to see if that's got a lot of other SSIDs around you on the same channel
[00:50] <fatmandown> this whole situation is very strange.
[00:50] <albeesco04> can any one help me with how to install skype
[00:50] <topper4125> fatmandown, try Dr_Willis suggestion... that would be useful
[00:50] <SysNeko> albeee what system are you running amd64 or?
[00:50] <ctcb> wafflejock, My device changes the WiFi Channel depending on which people are using their routers around me, so that isn't a problem.
[00:50] <jeffrey_f> ctcb;  in terminal:  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan | grep Frequency | sort | uniq -c | sort -n
[00:50] <jeffrey_f> Will show channels being used and how many.  Switch your router to a lesser or unused channel
[00:50] <ctcb> BT Call it "Smart Wireless"
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> unless its not so smart and  gets confused. ;)
[00:51] <fatmandown> another thing...i'm installing it to an external laptop hd booted via USB enclosure. is there a reason it would hang on creating the ext3 FS?
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> fatmandown:  i install/run from external usb flash. hard drive. and sd cards all the time - with few issues.
[00:52] <fatmandown> like, shouldn't that part take about a second?
[00:52] <jeffrey_f> fatmandown: are you encrypting your file system?
[00:52] <fatmandown> no
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> how big a ext3? :)
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> might take a few min.
[00:52] <fatmandown> 320GB?
[00:52] <jasabella> where would i find the source code for the man page reader?
[00:52] <fatmandown> i've been sitting here waiting for it for at least a minute and a half, I feel like it's hanging
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> 2min? id say give it about 10 befor worrying.
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> usb speeds can be very slow at times. :(
[00:53] <jeffrey_f> fatmandown:  does your system show disk activity?
[00:53] <fatmandown> i think this whole 'take old computer and make xfce server out of it' is dead
[00:54] <fatmandown> the external hd enclosure light is red, and my CD drive light isn't on
[00:54] <toafan> albeesco04: skype is non-free(dom) software, so I'm going to officially encourage you not to use it.  You have to get skype from their website, they should have a ubuntu version.  Download that (the one that matches your system) and double-click it, IIRC it should ask you for your password and ask if you want to install with Ubuntu Software Center or something else, maybe not in that order.  Beyond that I can't help you.
[00:55] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/jc7ic1y8
[00:55] <ctcb> See, it is smart, I'm the only one on Channel 6. :P
[00:55] <fatmandown> oh wait this is booting from a USB stick installing it on an external hard drive..might explain the time lag
[00:55] <jeffrey_f> could be either the USB is slow or you may have errors on the disk being formatted.
[00:56] <toafan> ...or he left.
[00:56] <wafflejock> fatmandown: yeah USB especially on an old machine probably isn't going to be blazing fast
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> jasabella: apt-get source manpages    or apt-get source man-db    ... not sure which one has the ninary
[00:56] <jeffrey_f> fatmandown:  You are moving data from USB to USB, it will be horribly slowed
[00:56] <wafflejock> fatmandown: expect lots of waiting
[00:57] <wafflejock> fatmandown: USB 1.0 11Mbps 2.0 peaks at 480Mbps
[00:57] <toafan> fatmandown: usb-usb is _slow_.  A gig took me like half an hour, I haven't tried the like since.
[00:57] <jeffrey_f> almost like dial-up
[00:58] <wafflejock> jeffrey_f: lets not get ridiculous :)
[00:58] <wafflejock> dial up I'd be waiting 40 minutes for an MP3
[00:58] <jeffrey_f> how many wireless devices are active on your router?
[00:58] <fatmandown> wafflejock, CD would be faster yeah?
[00:58] <jazz> Hey y'all, I've got an installation question
[00:59] <jeffrey_f> Wafflejock:  hehehe
[00:59] <wafflejock> fatmandown: yeah I almost always go CD if it's an option... only problems is lots of installs need DVD now and not all old machines have a DVD drive
[00:59] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, My iPad and my Laptop. And my iPad is going mega fast compared to my laptop.
[00:59] <fatmandown> i have a xubuntu 10 disk here
[00:59] <jasabella> thx
[00:59] <fatmandown> gues i'll uuse that
[01:00] <fatmandown> thanks guys I really appreciate it
[01:00] <jazz> Currently setting up partitions in Ubuntu installer. On /dev/sdd I have a windows partition and will be installing Linux (/dev/sdd2, /dev/sdd5)
[01:00] <wafflejock> fatmandown:  np best of luck
[01:00] <jeffrey_f> ctcb: how old is the system in question?
[01:01] <jazz> If I select /dev/sdd as where I want my bootloader... Is that safe?
[01:01] <jazz> Answers appreciated!
[01:01] <jazz> Or should I use /dev/sdd5
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: it will overwrite any boot lader that is ther
[01:01] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, Brand New, I think it was made late-2012, but this model is new, not second hand.
[01:01] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, Does this help at all? http://pastebin.com/GHGwXMuR &
[01:01] <jazz> But not any data?
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> jazz:: boot loader goes in the beginning of a drive not partition
[01:02] <jazz> I understand that /dev/sdd2 is my windows partition, but I'm not sure what /dev/sdd is
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: no wont overwrite data. its less than 512 bytes
[01:02] <jazz> Ah
[01:03] <jazz> So it'll install grub there and give me the option to boot Windows or Ubuntu?
[01:03] <jeffrey_f> ctcb: http://www.speedtest.net/
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: /dev/sdd is the drive upon which the /dev/sdd2 partition is
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: yes grub should give you that option if you boot to that drive
[01:04] <jazz> Right, which is why I was naively inclined to think it would replace everything on the drive with a bootloader. :)
[01:04] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, My internet is so slow that it won't even load speedtest.net!
[01:04] <ctcb> XD
[01:04] <jazz> So /dev/sdd it is then
[01:05] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, Luckily for you, I did one earlier: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3071889380.png
[01:05] <toafan> jazz: think of it as /dev/sdd is a physical drive, and /dev/sd1 /dev/sd2 are partitions
[01:05] <ctcb> And it was still in my browser history. :D
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  normally you do /dev/sdX   not /dev/sdX#  for grub
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: what grub installs is a tiny little bootstrap that tells the bios where to find grub
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> I think uefi might differ slightly
[01:05] <jeffrey_f> ctcb: what speed are you paying for?  just curious
[01:06] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, Up to 5Mb/s, I usually get around 4-4.5Mb/s.
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> Dr_Willis: uefi is veeeery different :P it looks for an efi partiton instead of looking at mbr
[01:06] <jazz> Eh..
[01:06] <wafflejock> ctcb: ping speedtest.net
[01:07] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, Because I'm in a coastal town, we're not getting the UK's Fibre Optic Broadband until 2015. :(
[01:07] <wafflejock> ctcb: I wonder if you're having some sort of DNS issue
[01:07] <jeffrey_f> ctcb: and how far from the access point is your system. (walls, floors, etc?)
[01:07] <jazz> Now I'm at the Where are you? screen
[01:07] <jazz> Can't click continue even after I select my city...
[01:07] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, I am literally in the living room, so one door away and a bit of a wall. I usally get 4Mb/s here with my iPad or PC.
[01:07] <toafan> ctcb, wafflejock: that might explain problems with speedtest.net, but not the general problem
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> jazz... yup should be smooth sailing from there... just DO NOT create or log into ubnutnu one
[01:08] <toafan> hitsujiTMO: why not ubuntu one?
[01:08] <Mapley> Hi. I've noticed that some GTK+ 3.10 applications using header bars contain certain menus. Would it be possible to hide them? See what I mean here - http://i.imgur.com/RVSLJ6E.png? [xpost]
[01:08] <Strav> Question (if anyone can help): Since a few weeks now, It seems I have to reset pulseaudio for it to recognize my usb headset when it's plugged in and Yet, it's detected by alsa's aplay -l. Is there any way I can fix this for pulseaudio to automatically add the usb headset? (resetting pulse cause kde's phonon to display pulseaudio as the only available "device" so the defined device preferrences do not apply anymore (I have to manually
[01:08] <Strav> switch which is the default output device with pavuconrol)
[01:08] <wafflejock> toafan: ctcbwell if he's relying on speedtest.net to check the speed then that could be an issue
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> toafan: theres a bug in the installer where it hangs at that point
[01:08] <jazz> Why is continue grayed out?
[01:09] <toafan> hitsujiTMO: ah
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: what point are you at exactly?
[01:09] <jazz> I type my city, get two drop-down options, click one, continue still grayed out
[01:09] <jazz> The map asking my location right after partitioning
[01:09] <wafflejock> jazz: you try just clicking your location on the map?
[01:09] <jazz> Yeah
[01:10] <toafan> Mapley: that looks like it's not exporting its menu over dbus.  No idea why, is dbus running?
[01:10] <DrGrov> Hello hello.
[01:10] <toafan> Mapley: also, you've got buttons in your titlebar.  I can't decide whether to be jealous.
[01:10] <DrGrov> How could I easily remove Ubuntu One and all Ubuntu cloud services on my 13.10 64-bit install? Not that I don't like them but I have no need.
[01:10] <jazz> Seems arbitrary, selects a city 8 hours away, sometimes it's greyed out, sometimes not.
[01:11] <Mapley> toafan, yes.
[01:11] <Mapley> I'm actually using a different WM, though I don't think that should affect it.
[01:11] <hitsujiTMO> reselect your city again. must be an odd bug. haven't come accross that yet
[01:11] <topper4125> Mapley, which DE are you using?
[01:11] <jazz> I'm in the same timezone as new York. I'm assuming I can select that and change it later?
[01:11] <Mapley> topper4125, MATE with Gala.
[01:11] <Mapley> Don't judge me!
[01:11] <wafflejock> DrGrov: http://askubuntu.com/questions/309122/removing-ubuntu-one
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: yes you can run: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata        to set the timezone later
[01:12] <DrGrov> My second question is regarding that I have 13.10 set as English US as system language but still it shows up in ex. irssi and file manager with the Finnish time stamps on everything :(
[01:12] <jazz> Thanks
[01:12] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Thank you, will look directly into that :)
[01:12] <toafan> Mapley: have you turned off something that would put menues elsewhere?  do other programs put their menus somewhere else the way you expect?
[01:12] <Mapley> Hrm.
[01:13] <Mapley> Will check back in a mo.
[01:13] <ctcb> jeffrey_f, wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/sanQuRGU
[01:13] <ctcb> There^
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: whats the output of: echo $LANG
[01:13] <wafflejock> ctcb: wow time is terrible
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: from terminal that is
[01:14] <Mapley> Shouldn't be any. I've got a bunch of modified settings in dconf - er, actually, a lot - but none should affect this.
[01:14] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Terminal says: en_US.UTF-8
[01:14] <Mapley> I've tried using gnome-tweak-tool and changing the 'applications menu' setting without any success.
[01:14] <Mapley> It /used/ to work.
[01:14] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Can I safely remove Ubuntu One even though I am in the middle of fiddling with the system?
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov and: echo $LANGUAGE
[01:14] <wafflejock> ctcb: getting this basically 64 bytes from redirector2.dynect.net (216.146.46.11): icmp_req=70 ttl=52 time=46.5 ms
[01:15] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Says en_US
[01:15] <wafflejock> DrGrov: not experienced with that, I removed unity myself and installed KDE then decided to just clean install Kubuntu cause I was liking KDE
[01:15] <toafan> Mapley: is there something set from within this aplication?
[01:15] <topper4125> I used to have a problem simular to this when running programs in sudo (Like the tab menu in gedit if I had more than one document open).. Trying to find out how it fixed it... maybe the fix is simular to the fix in mate
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov. that's bizarre. maybe irssi saves your lang on inital run. did you cange the lang after ruinning irssi for the first time?
[01:15] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Ok. Does a clean Kubuntu install remove Ubuntu One etc.?
[01:15] <Mapley> toafan: No.
[01:16] <Mapley> It's stock.
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov, ubuntu one can be safely removed
[01:16] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: No, I did not change it. Perhaps time to look into irssi.conf?
[01:16] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I can remove Ubuntu One even though I am now tweaking and doing other stuff? No reboot need?
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> DrGov.no reboot needed
[01:16] <toafan> Mapley: huh.  I got nothing.  Unless, like, it's run as the wrong user or something.
[01:17]  * Mapley grumbles
[01:17] <Jeroi> hello
[01:17] <Mapley> Eh, it's cosmetic, so it's fine.
[01:17] <Jeroi> is there really a way to open scite silently from terminal?
[01:17] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Great :) I shall remove Ubuntu One directly. How about Amazon then? I know the privacy I can get rid of online search results through there.
[01:17] <toafan> Mapley:
[01:17] <toafan> oop
[01:17] <Jeroi> default it blocks terminal access
[01:17] <topper4125> mapley see if anything here helps: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=7127
[01:17] <Mapley> Eh?
[01:17] <ctcb_> wafflejock, I switched over to my Super Long Ethernet Cable for a test, it doesn't get much more than my wireless does.
[01:17] <toafan> Mapley: I think I decided to turn 'globalmenus' off because it was so application-dependent
[01:17] <ctcb_> http://pastebin.com/AN9nnn9X < That was the result of my test.
[01:18] <Mapley> topper4125, not application-related nor theme-related.
[01:18] <ctcb_> Big Difference. Must be something with Ubuntu and my Wireless Chip.
[01:18] <wafflejock> DrGrov: well I mean I installed Kubuntu wiping out my old system (after backing up) doing it that way
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: i haven't found a package than can be removed safely that takes away the amazon thing. but you can stop online activity with the dash in: System Settings -> Security & Provacy -> Search
[01:18] <Mapley> Anyway, thanks for the attempted help anyway. :P
[01:19] <wafflejock> ctcb: not sure if it will help but I added a static DNS to my router config using 8.8.8.8
[01:19] <gfallbackjcbv> i need help installing software building and compiling
[01:19] <wafflejock> ctcb_: https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> jeroi:have you tried adding an ampersand after it?
[01:19] <toafan> hitsujiTMO: that sounds like a 'dependency' that doesn't actually depend on anything.  I noticed that with plymouth.  I don't want the gui-bootsplash, darn it!
[01:19] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Great. That fixed the Ubuntu One thing :) Thank you.
[01:20] <wafflejock> gfallbackjcbv: what are you trying to do specifically and where does it not work as expected
[01:20] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: That Amazon thing is just for purchasing basically?
[01:21] <wafflejock> DrGrov: yeah money
[01:21] <wafflejock> DrGrov: also tracks other info about usage
[01:21] <ctcb_> wafflejock, right now I need to figure out what's wrong with my Wireless Chip and why Ubuntu isn't liking it.
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> toafan: The problem is that they rolled all the dash scripts into the one package as far as i can see. so you can break other functionality in the dash by removing it
[01:21] <ctcb_> There wasn't any problems with the laptop before I went over to Ubuntu with internet speeds.
[01:22] <wafflejock> ctcb_: ah okay so you said the cable did help I didn't get that
[01:22] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: yup... just a sales pitch
[01:22] <ctcb_> wafflejock, The cable is giving me a lot faster speeds.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com and omgubuntu had an artical about the amazon search lens and how to  disable/remove/work arounds.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> or was it the webupd8 blog site..
[01:24] <Jordan_U> !adlens
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 changed some things. so the old wiki info might be invalid.
[01:24] <bindi> https://fixubuntu.com/
[01:24] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Great, that is a relief.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_: what wifi do you have?
[01:24] <Jeroi> hitsujiTMO: no I don't know what is it?
[01:25] <DrGrov> But the online search results is just from Privacy done as hitsujiTMO explained?
[01:25] <Jeroi> yeah
[01:25] <ctcb_> hitsujiTMO, The card in my laptop, or the router I have?
[01:25] <Jeroi> I have tried &
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> jeroi: as in scite &
[01:25] <Jeroi> no work
[01:25] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: Thank you.
[01:25] <wafflejock> ctcb_: can you paste the output of  iwconfig again can't find it
[01:25] <wafflejock> want to compare db values
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_ in laptop
[01:25] <nydel> running ubuntu quantal, how can i set my incoming ssh authentication method to password only?
[01:26] <DrGrov> That envelope thingie in the right corner, can that be removed somehow?
[01:26] <ctcb_> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/GHGwXMuR
[01:26] <toafan> DrGrov: the messaging menu thingie?
[01:26] <DrGrov> toafan: Yes, it is disturbing me :)
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  id just learn to leave things alone.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:27] <ctcb_> wafflejock: http://pastebin.com/szvLbAFL
[01:27] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: Haha :)
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html  DrGrov
[01:27] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: I just tend to keep things as minimalistic as possible. Thanks, will read into that directly.
[01:27] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: Been busy doing backup from my old HDD which mobo burned and the missus MacBook I had in use
[01:27] <toafan> DrGrov: probably not, actually.  Well, short of changing WMs.
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_: seems a lot of people are having problems with that one
[01:28] <wafflejock> ctcb_: not a lot different from mine but Bit Rate = 130 Mb/s for me
[01:28] <nydel> Dr_Willis: have you ever used a system76 system?
[01:28] <wafflejock> everything else it looks better on yours mostly but within a couple of values
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/how-to-disable-amazon-shopping.html   for 13.10
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> nydel:  i tend to buy windows machines that are on the clearance bin at the local stores.
[01:29] <wafflejock> Signal: -58dBm   Tx-Power=15dBm
[01:29] <wafflejock> Link Quality: 52/70
[01:29] <nydel> Dr_Willis: i love that i don't know whether you're joking. you rock
[01:29] <ctcb_> hitsujiTMO, What can I do?
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_ so far not seeing any solutions from anyone
[01:30] <irreverant> How can i remove an email account from the taskbar email connection shortcut?
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_ seems to ba an issue with later kernels too
[01:31] <wafflejock> yeah basically at this point I would probably see if I could try another wifi adapter
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_ what version ubuntu are you running?
[01:31] <ctcb_> hitsujiTMO, Ubuntu 13.10 64-Bit
[01:31] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: This is wondeful, I remembered webupd8 but not anymore. Been away too long. Thanks for the very good link :)
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> nydel:  my main desktop pc waS an asus - was a display model that was on the clearance table at best buy.  it was $100 cheaper then an identical  machine they had on display. :) as in totally identical..
[01:31] <ctcb_> wafflejock, Not sure how, since it's intergrated wireless.
[01:31] <wafflejock> ctcb_: here's the integrated I have
[01:31] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  about all i ever read is webupd8 and omgubuntu ;)
[01:31] <wafflejock> http://pastebin.com/31SYa95W
[01:32] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: ;)
[01:32] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: I gotta finish the backup first and getting that back and then start installing all the stuff I want :)
[01:32] <wafflejock> ctcb_: you can just disable that and use a USB one... at least to see if you can get around the issue even if it's not a permanent solution
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> ctcb_ you can buy one cheap on ebay.
[01:32] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: Do you know of any good stress test to measure CPU etc. on Ubuntu?
[01:33] <irreverant> DrGrov you can try burn In i believe that also works on linux distros
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  theres somej benchmark appsin the repos.  and i recall some of the hardware-testing web sites have their own benchmark sets ported to linux. but ive rarely used them
[01:34] <DrGrov> irreverant: Okay :)
[01:34] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: Okay :) I just wanted to really test this Intel Xeon E5 processor I bought today.
[01:35] <wafflejock> DrGrov: get to compiling
[01:35] <wafflejock> DrGrov: download Chromium
[01:35] <irreverant> Xeons are good
[01:36] <irreverant> i used two quad core xeon processors in a single build for a windows server box
[01:36] <DrGrov> wafflejock: And compile Chromium to test?
[01:36] <irreverant> really reliable and powerful
[01:36] <wafflejock> yeah I think on their site it said it takes a day or something
[01:36] <DrGrov> irreverant: The problem I just could afford one :(
[01:36] <irreverant> not a sillicon graphics computer but still gnarly
[01:36] <wafflejock> I was gonna do it for a minute but then read the build time and decided I best just download the package
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: wont the compiler only use a single core tho?
[01:36] <irreverant> can anyone recommend a good game from the ubuntu software center thats similar to warcraft/starcraft and thats free?
[01:37] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: depends on the compiler I believe
[01:37] <DrGrov> Do people usually buy Intel Xeon processors for everyday use?
[01:37] <wafflejock> not entirely sure about gcc tbh
[01:37] <DrGrov> I wanna have the best darn computer in my small village LOL
[01:37] <wafflejock> DrGrov: I have two in the other room :)
[01:37] <DrGrov> wafflejock: God damn you! :)
[01:37] <wafflejock> they are being sold though
[01:38] <wafflejock> just here for business, someone else downsizing
[01:38] <jazz> hi guys!
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: xeons tend to have a longer lifespan,
[01:38] <wafflejock> if anyone wants a server btw
[01:38] <jazz> need help again
[01:38] <wafflejock> we got 2
[01:38] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Now I know why you are present. Doing business :)
[01:38] <wafflejock> HP Proliant DL120 G7s
[01:38] <irreverant> i need a server
[01:38] <irreverant> what are the3 specs?
[01:38] <wafflejock> haha
[01:38] <jazz> so ubuntu seems to think my primary display is the 1080p TV (should be secondary) connected via HDMI
[01:38] <wafflejock> no just broed
[01:38] <wafflejock> bored*
[01:38] <FloodBot1> wafflejock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:38] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: But do people usually buy them for every day use?
[01:38] <jazz> I'd like to mirror my displays at 1080p
[01:39] <jazz> Weird thing is the login screen uses my 1080p TV as the main, yet Unity loads the Unity Bar on my comp screen....
[01:39] <toafan> jazz: is that just how it acts when you connect them, or does unplugging it give you problems?
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> DrGov, yes, some of the lower end ones are simplarly priced to the equivalent i5s or i7s ... so why not
[01:39] <jazz> When I select mirroring the highest resolution I can go is much lower than 1080p
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  the user can have differnt settings then the system (lightdm)
[01:39] <DrGrov> Should I really give compiling a go of something I really want to have?
[01:40] <DrGrov> Or is there any better way to test? :)
[01:40] <jazz> okay, then i'd like to have the system use compscreen as main
[01:40] <jazz> not that it matters if they're mirrored at 1080p
[01:40] <wafflejock> irreverant: ah they're 3.2GHz Intel Xeon (can't recall exact part number off hand) 2 x 1TB HDD 8 GB of RAM
[01:40] <jazz> though i guess it matters for the login screen...
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: you're system profile and personal profile are set differently.
[01:40] <irreverant> how much?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu (well the pc) decides my DVI connection is the primary by default. so i get  the login on the tv monitor here.  I then set it to auto login to my user. who has the nvidia settings set to only use the PC monitor.
[01:40] <wafflejock> irreverant: asking $1500 on ebay I believe
[01:40] <irreverant> is this yours?
[01:40] <wafflejock> irreverant: my brother/business partner posted em
[01:40] <wafflejock> irreverant: they're a non-profit that down sized
[01:41] <wafflejock> irreverant: I helped move some stuff "to the cloud"
[01:41] <jazz> Dr_Willis, sounds like what I have. Don't want to use autologin though. Solution?
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  swap video cables
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[01:41] <wafflejock> irreverant: they were running windows server 2008 I reinstalled win server 2008 with the keys they had
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: that seems a little high priced for such a system
[01:41] <jazz> One is HDMI, one is DVI...
[01:41] <toafan> jazz: autologin with autolock?
[01:41] <jazz> eh...
[01:41] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: if you compare to other ebay listings it's $500 cheaper
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  they have dvi->hdmi adaptors
[01:41] <wafflejock> the proc is pricey
[01:42] <wafflejock> like $300 still
[01:42] <jazz> I'd rather not bandaid this. Is there really no solution?
[01:42] <jazz> (Have the system use DVI as main over HDMI)
[01:42] <DrGrov> I really got a non Ubuntu related question. May I ask it here or should I switch to the offtopic channel?
[01:42] <toafan> jazz: is this a laptop-type system or a desktop-type?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  im not clear on the problem. my DVI port is decided its the main port if both are in use. I can plug it into  the HDMI monitor using a DVI-HDMI adaptor.
[01:42] <jazz> desktop
[01:42] <wafflejock> also to keep  it on topic I did install Ubuntu on these servers to play with and it works :)
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: hmm, still seems pricey... but then again i just buy blades. so pricing is a little different
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> newer cards have 2 hdmi ports these days.
[01:43] <toafan> I suspect you'll find a lot of stuff is bandaid-y
[01:43] <Shinobi> Is there a way to mount a dd image?
[01:43] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: who do you buy blades from?
[01:43] <jazz> There's my computer monitor always connected over DVI, and there's my TV always connected through HDMI
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> i cant really tell any differance with using the hdmi->dvi adaptor. I even have DVI ->hdmi video cables.
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  the mount commands loop back feature can do it. same as you do an ISO image
[01:43] <jazz> No adapters (my GPU has HDMI port)
[01:43] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: anywhere I can go for better price comparison? we're just going based on some knowledge of the hardware and other ebay listings
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> !iso | Shinobi
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> jazz: you could try set up an xorg.conf
[01:44] <jazz> sigh
[01:44] <toafan> jazz, hitsujiTMO: oh gad
[01:44] <toafan> jazz, hitsujiTMO: doesn't ubuntu come without a config nowadays?
[01:45] <Shinobi> Dr_Willis: So even though it's not an iso, just a raw dump of an hdd, it will still work?
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: i'm just going by what i have purchased in the past.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> toafan: it auto generates the data, but you can still use an xorg.conf to override it
[01:45] <Geo> Hi, when doing a ls -l /proc/pid/fd, I see 1 -> pipe:[105923324] ... how can I get more info on that pipe, ie, where is it pointing?
[01:46] <toafan> hitsujiTMO: right, but then you have to set everything that it autogenerates without it, don't you?
[01:46] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: ah was a bit off on the proc price is only $240 but close
[01:46] <wafflejock> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115083
[01:46] <jazz> guess i'll go ask on /r/ ubuntu. [rant]after 3 years without ubuntu, i was hoping it've matured more by now. bugs in installer, 5 minutes in desktop, and already it looks like i'll have to go muck around in xorg.conf again... sigh.[/rant]
[01:46] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: dunno they're decent machines I just have no need for them doing my stuff on AWS mostly or on my laptop or deskto
[01:46] <wafflejock> p
[01:47] <Shinobi> Dr_Willis: I converted this dd file to a .vdi file and attached to a vm. It didn't boot and when I ran a partition utility to check out the vdi drives, it showed them both as bad. They were NTFS partitions and the software would have know the partition type.
[01:47] <Shinobi> If the dd files are bad, can I salvage anything?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> toafan: yes i do. but if the default of what it generates isn't up to scratch then you need to use a xorg.conf
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  if its a dd image of a DRIVE - is one thing. if its a image of a PARTITION - is another thing.
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  its easier to mount an image of a PARTITION.
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  your original dd image would be a 'raw' image i think in vbox terms.
[01:48] <Shinobi> Dr_Willis: Which one is mountable? Partition, I assume?
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  you can mount either one. but for a drive image - you have to give dd some extra info i recall.
[01:49] <toafan> hitsujiTMO: no, I mean: if you set an xorg.conf, doesn't it not do any autogenerating, even if you only set one or two things?
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: what was the dd command you used?
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> toofan, it will do some. you can be minimalistic about the xorg.conf
[01:49] <Geo>  when doing a ls -l /proc/pid/fd, I see 1 -> pipe:[105923324] ... how can I get more info on that pipe, ie, where is it pointing?
[01:50] <Shinobi> hutsujiTM0: Not sure it was a long time ago, I forget if I dd the paritions separately, or just one big rip.
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Shinobi: To make partitions on a raw image of an entire hard drive available as device nodes so they can be mounted, run "sudo kpartx -a /path/to/disk.img".
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  i think you can do   sudo fdisk -l theimage.img   and it may give some info also
[01:51] <Shinobi> Jordan_U Dr_Willis: nice...
[01:51] <yeyeman> what the.. ubuntu seem to have changed by key shortcuts
[01:52] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: Note that that only applies to "vhd" images to the extent that the're just raw dumps of bits from the disk. What did you do to "convert" this image, and do you still have the original? What command did you use to create the original?
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: it should be possible to generate a working drive inage from the partition images. you'd prob have to create a dummy and on that create a partition of the same size of an image. then dd that image over that partition
[01:52] <yeyeman> how do I assign keyboard combinations for example open terminal?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/69363/mount-single-partition-from-image-of-entire-disk-device   Shinobi  for some reading. ;)
[01:52] <wafflejock> yeyeman: ubuntu
[01:53] <wafflejock> yeyeman: ?
[01:53] <Shinobi> Jordan_U: I used dd to create the original and VBoxManage convertdd to convert
[01:53] <yeyeman> I used to have super+t, but that opens trash suddenly for some reason
[01:53] <wafflejock> yeyeman: ctrl+alt+t usually be default
[01:53] <wafflejock> yeyeman: you can change in system setting
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall it ever being Super-T  ;)
[01:53] <Shinobi> As long as I can get data I don't care how I do it... I think the dds are bad though...
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> press and hold the SUPER key on unity to see a list of shortcits
[01:53] <yeyeman> no that's what i had set it to
[01:53] <yeyeman> but it has changed all of a sudden
[01:53] <cvtsx> sudo apt-get penis
[01:54] <wafflejock> yeyeman: yeah when you upgrade and whatnot it sometimes replaces those config settings
[01:54] <Geo>  when doing a ls -l /proc/pid/fd, I see 1 -> pipe:[105923324] ... how can I get more info on that pipe, ie, where is it pointing?
[01:54] <cvtsx> sudo apt-get penis
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> enough cvtsx
[01:55] <cvtsx> ok
[01:55] <insp1525> hi
[01:56] <cvtsx> sudo apt-get penis
[01:56] <cvtsx> i gtg bye
[01:56] <Guest6538> E: Invalid operation penis
[01:56] <wafflejock> great that was useful... hello insp1525 !ask
[01:57] <jazz> okay
[01:57] <Guest6538> lol
[01:57] <jazz> new question
[01:57] <Guest6538> lol
[01:57] <Guest6538> lol
[01:57] <FloodBot1> Guest6538: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:57] <jazz> can i "link" my steamapps folder with the one on windows
[01:57] <wafflejock> jazz: not likely and probably would end in disaster
[01:57] <jazz> my ubuntu partition is only ~12gb, not big enough to copy (14gb)
[01:58] <wafflejock> jazz: different binaries and whatnot
[01:58] <jazz> ah
[01:58] <wafflejock> jazz: maybe could share some data files
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> jazz:  soft links can go across filesystems
[01:58] <wafflejock> jazz: but it would probably get hairy
[01:58] <Shinobi> cvtsx: I think you mean: apt-get upgrade penis
[01:59] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: Dr_Willis: That AskUbuntu answer is the hard, less reliable method. Using kpartx is better in almost every way.
[01:59] <Shinobi> Jordan_U: I thought it didn't work with dd...
[02:00] <Guest6538> lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
[02:00] <wafflejock> jazz: yeah you're only going to be able to get some subset of the games on Linux most likely... unless you just play team fortress and kerbal space progrm all day
[02:00] <jazz> installing ksp now :)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: It does. It's a simple "mount -o loop /path/to/disk.img" that doesn't work.
[02:01] <jazz> now if i could just figure out how to set DVI as my primary over HDMI and mirror them in 1080p (gah!)
[02:01] <wafflejock> Jordan_U: ksp is great
[02:01] <jazz> help'd be appreciated :(
[02:02] <Jordan_U> wafflejock: ksp?
[02:02] <wafflejock> Jordan_U: ah sorry meant jazz
[02:02] <wafflejock> Jordan_U: Kerbal Space Program (KSP)
[02:03] <jazz> yes it is
[02:04] <Shinobi> Jordan_U: yeah looks the dd files aren't correct. Is there any other way to mine for data inside them. I'm assuming the boundaries may be off.
[02:04] <new0> how can i list all my drives?
[02:05] <Shinobi> new0: sudo fdisk -l
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> new0, drives or partitions?
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> fdisk does both
[02:06] <new0> Shinobi, tnx Willis drives
[02:06] <Shinobi> new0: the letter on the output is the drive, the number is the partition
[02:06] <new0> i have 2 HDD connected but only see one
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> new0: lsblk is a nice command for that
[02:07] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: What is the exact dd command you used to create the image? Are you now working with the original dd'd image or a "converted" one?
[02:07] <new0> well, my other HDD was working good until my pc feld on the floor and i was able to run it again and it give me the trying to repair window (win7) anyway after reboot i havn't see that drive anymore
[02:08] <Shinobi> JOrdan_U: I'm working with the original, but it was ripped years ago. I don't remember the actual command.
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> new0: sounds like the drive took a shock beyond what it can withstand. you'll need to replace it.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: Please pastebin the output of "file /path/to/disk.img".
[02:08] <new0> what this mean? http://pastebin.com/GEYpmjN9
[02:09] <new0> hitsujiTMO, sure, the Q how can i save that info
[02:09] <wafflejock> new0: 1 disk 2 paritions 1 rom
[02:09] <new0> if i can
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> new0: the hdd is not there.
[02:09] <wafflejock> new0: if it's a regular HDD can you feel it spin up?
[02:10] <new0> ho BUMMER it was 500GB HDD and it's really important for me all the info over there
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> new0: if its shock damage then the drive is no more. would have to be dissaseembled in a clean room to get the data.... beyond what you can afford
[02:10] <wafflejock> new0: yeah few Gs if it's worth it to yah
[02:10] <new0> wafflejock, i would try to open the case. it's laptop
[02:10] <arosen> Hi, is ubuntu13.10 to big to put on a cd and install?
[02:10] <wafflejock> new0: you can pick up an external reader for like $20
[02:10] <adamx> Ha! Who uses CDs anymore?
[02:10] <wafflejock> new0: will read anything
[02:10] <Shinobi> Jordan_U: hold on. Made a typo
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> new0: take the hhd out and shake it? is there any sound. if so its gone.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> arosen, I think lubuntu fits, you can use it then install ubuntu.
[02:11] <wafflejock> adamx: not all older PCs have a DVD drive
[02:11] <wafflejock> adamx: plus Ubuntu always used to fit on a CD
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> arosen, There are net installs 30 mib
[02:11] <wafflejock> till like 10 at least
[02:11] <new0> hitsujiTMO, well, how much do u think. it's really important. didn't back up that data. and i have there work more than a year
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> new0 several thousand for such damage:P
[02:12] <wafflejock> new0: it's thousands to have it clean room
[02:12] <wafflejock> new0: they charge per GB and recover the whole disk
[02:12] <kostkon> new0, try to read its smart data
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Shinobi, wafflejock can you take it to the bar where all the other old men reminisce, lol.
[02:12] <wafflejock> new0: they will send you DVDs
[02:13] <new0> kostkon, what is smart data?
[02:13] <arosen> wilee-nilee:  hrm i did an upgrade of 13.04->13.10 and it failed :/
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> kostkon: its not showing up at all
[02:13] <arosen> I'll see if i can recover that otherwise i'll probably do a fresh install
[02:13] <new0> is there any good software before that?
[02:13] <kostkon> hitsujiTMO, oh ok
[02:13] <new0> beside GET data back
[02:13] <kostkon> new0, nvm
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> new0, you install smartmontools for that.
[02:13] <new0> hitsujiTMO, in ubuntu?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> arosen, Any live cd I would use puppy linux it's in root to get out what you need to a external if needed.
[02:15] <Shinobi> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6344681/
[02:15] <new0> kostkon, can u give me some like to google for that smart data?
[02:15] <yfslient> hello,everyone
[02:15] <wafflejock> we gotta keep you young wipper snappers in line wilee-nilee
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> wafflejock, Heh, well I'm one year from 50 years old so you fail. ;)
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Shinobi: That is not a dd'd image of a whole drive, but of just one partition. Use "mount -o loop".
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> new0. the best thing to do is take it out of the laptop and shake it gently. if you can hear any rattling or anything then it's definately gone. if there's no noise you need to try it in an external cadd incase its the sata connector on the mobo thats gone or something else there. if it's still not showing up then you need to replace the board on the drive (you'll need to buy the exact same drive) and see if its just the controller that is
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> broken. if that fails ... you HAVE to go to a clean room
[02:16] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: calling me the old man I'm only 30 :)
[02:16] <kostkon> new0, you can use the disk utility in ubuntu, it can show the smart data and run the diagnostics
[02:16] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: why all the angst?
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> new0, in ubuntu yes ... yes, but if the device isn't even showing up then you cant read the smart data
[02:17] <new0> ok, i just touch that drive but don't feel it spin. i know that after it fold i start the laptop and i saw the OS only one time
[02:17] <kostkon> new0, maybe if you could remove the hdd, maybe connect it to an usb enclosure and/or also try to listen what sounds it makes rtc
[02:17] <kostkon> etc*
[02:17] <wafflejock> new0: yeah no spin means either no power or serious damage
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> It's the rhetoric that exposed you, wafflejock No angst just having some fun.
[02:18] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: ah k all good just thought I may have said something to offend, it happens occasionally
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> we all do
[02:18] <kostkon> new0, maybe the power connector has detacched or something. try to tske it out and connect it to another pc or something like that
[02:19] <new0> hitsujiTMO, external --cadd incase? what is mobo? and that's good idea. from clean room i think. even to start with.
[02:19] <Shinobi> Jordon_U: says wrong filetype or superblock...
[02:19] <Shinobi> I think this dd is hosed.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  you did tell it a filesystem type?
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> external caddy/enclosure ... mobo = motherboard
[02:19] <Shinobi> iso9660
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  whats the exact command you are using?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  i thought you said it was a NTFS drive?
[02:20] <Shinobi> sudo mount -o loop file.dd /mnt -t iso9660
[02:20] <Shinobi> It is
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  then.. its not iso9660 ;)
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> its 'ntfs'
[02:21] <Shinobi> haha
[02:21] <Shinobi> it's getting late...
[02:21] <Shinobi> I need beer
[02:21] <Dr_Willis>  -t auto        <---- does wonders
[02:21] <new0> wafflejock, kostkon hitsujiTMO, tnx i just save this log on my correct HDD and will follow ur advice. thank you so much
[02:22] <kostkon> new0, good luck
[02:22] <Shinobi> I think I know what I did
[02:22] <wafflejock> Shinobi: beer fixes everything
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: you dd'd the parttion?
[02:23] <Shinobi> I think I ripped the boot sector and then the rest of the image...
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -lu image.dd           should give some info
[02:25] <intrader> Anyone, how do I repair a non-booting image (12.04) - I am on a malfunctioning 13.10 to do this chat
[02:25] <Shinobi> Dr_Willis: yeah it's saying that it doesn't look like a partition table
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: boot-repair
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: then its a partition image
[02:26] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, issue from 13.10?
[02:26] <Shinobi> can I do this: cat mbr.dd otherfile.dd > new.dd
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: no ...
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: how big is the mbr.dd?
[02:27] <Shinobi> 256
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> 512 bytes?
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> s56 byte?
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> 256*
[02:27] <Shinobi> my bad it's 512
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> intrader, This a boot problem, some back on what led you here.
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi:  if you got the hd space.. tyr it and see.
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: partitions are usually restricted to 1MiB boundaries ... so a straight dd is not possible
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: do you have a drive that they will fit on that you can use to rebuild?
[02:30] <Shinobi> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I can setup a vm
[02:30] <Shinobi> I can create a virtual disk, dd the mbr back, then dd the partitions back.
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: you will need to load a live distro ... and you will need to create the HDD as a bit bigger than the total size of the 2 images
[02:31] <Shinobi> oh wait
[02:31] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: ignore the mbr ... it's no use to you
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> !find ntfsmount
[02:32] <Shinobi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6344720/
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> just saw mention of a ntfsmount command in a help guide
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: what is the EXACT size of the partition images in bytes?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> Shinobi, The mbr is the easy part if the OS is usable, not really a dd needed there.
[02:33] <Shinobi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6344723/
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> with the right tools
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: did you say this was a windows image?
[02:33] <Shinobi> yes
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> ooh feynman
[02:34] <Shinobi> that's the system name
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> yours or the physicists
[02:34] <Shinobi> it was named after the physicist
[02:34] <Shinobi> all my pcs are
[02:35] <Shinobi> well... now I'm branching into mathematicians
[02:35] <Shinobi> and I had one named babbage
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> whitten?
[02:36] <Shinobi> huh?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> Edward Whitten, Mr. M-theory
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> ok. so boot the live cd and install load up fdisk
[02:37] <Shinobi> oh, no not yet
[02:37] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, boot-repair not found
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> !boot-repair | intrader
[02:37] <lukasubo> hi
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> !bootrepair | intrader
[02:37] <fluxxe> hi guys. Looking for some byobu user here. needs some help please
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:38] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | fluxxe
[02:38] <lukasubo> !patience
[02:38] <lukasubo> !help
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> Shinobi: just let me know when you have the live cd up and running in the vm
[02:38] <lukasubo> !list
[02:39] <Tex_Nick> why does ubuntu install apache by default ? does the system use it for documentation or something ?
[02:39] <lukasubo> !ulist
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: it doesn't
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: it only installs apache if you tell it to
[02:39] <TCKB> Opa
[02:40] <Tex_Nick> it installed by default on some of my 12.04 box's and about an hour ago on a clean install of 13.10 ?
[02:40] <DrGrov> What could be regarded as the best burning software on 13.10?
[02:40] <DrGrov> k3b?
[02:40] <fluxxe> ubottu: sorry. In a terminal emulator the spliting with byobu work fine but in the console (tty) can't do it. shift+f2 doesn't work.
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> Tex_Nick, #ubuntu-server maybe
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: did you select web server in tasksel during the install?
[02:41] <Tex_Nick> no
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: thats the only way it would install it
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: is this a vm from a hosting company?
[02:42] <wafflejock> Tex_Nick: yeah definitely no apache by default in ubuntu
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> hitsujiTMO:  no this new install is a new box im' building\
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Best is an subjective, only exists in  your own reality.
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: then you selected web server (or what ever its called in the list) on tasksel during the install
[02:43] <kingbeast> DrGrov,  Brasero is what I use. It does everything I ask of it.
[02:43] <DrGrov> kingbeast: It does easily .iso burning?
[02:43] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, sudo: boot-repair: command not found
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: did you install it?
[02:43] <kingbeast> DrGrov, just rick click the .iso and choose open with brasero
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> turn off the sum check if you want any speed
[02:44] <kingbeast> DrGrov, right click*
[02:44] <Tex_Nick> hitsujiTMO:  i did a standard install from a live usb built with unetbootin ... only thing i did custom was drive partitioning
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: you have have selected lamp server on this menu for it to install: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e6fKn9jsr5M/T6lJ4TKRx2I/AAAAAAAACyE/LalwpBP-RSg/s1600/tasksel_ui.png
[02:45] <Tex_Nick> hitsujiTMO:  hmmm ok let me have a lookat that
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> intrader, boot repair is in a ppa.
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> Might be part of later releases not sure
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: reread the link i gave you. it tells you how to add the ppa and then apt-get update && apt-get install boot-repair
[02:47] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, boot-repair: command not found - do I download and install it?
[02:48] <DrGrov> kingbeast: Okay, thank you :)
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> intrader, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> intrader, Save the bootinfo summary url when run.
[02:49] <Guest10608> what are the minimum requirements for an ubuntu server
[02:49] <Tex_Nick> hitsujiTMO: hey thanks for the input
[02:49] <kingbeast> DrGrov, You're welcome.
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> Tex_Nick: no problem
[02:50] <Kajunfiend> sorry about that :)
[02:51] <Guest10608> ?
[02:51] <wafflejock> !patience | Guest10608
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> Guest10608: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest10608, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=minimum+requirements+for+an+ubuntu+server&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[02:52] <Guest10608> thank you
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> wrong link wilee-nilee: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+are+the+minimum+requirements+for+an+ubuntu+server
[02:53] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: exactly what I was thinking :)
[03:02] <rawfodog> is there a flavor of ubuntu that comes with MATE preinstalled ?
[03:02] <jeffrey_f>  
[03:02] <Ben64> rawfodog: no, mate is unsupported and a terrible zombie, it should not be used
[03:02] <rawfodog> Why Ben64 ?
[03:03] <SchrodingersScat> rawfodog: probably not enough people/money to support it.
[03:03] <rawfodog> What about Cinnamon?
[03:04] <Ben64> rawfodog: mate is trying to resurrect gnome2, its not going to happen
[03:04] <rawfodog> but its lite weight ?
[03:04] <udhgbuhegnbhp> USERLIST
[03:04] <Ben64> there are plenty of modern lightweight DEs
[03:04] <rawfodog> and way better than xfce
[03:05] <rawfodog> imo
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> rawfodog: by all means use it away, bot don't expect it to survive for long.
[03:05] <dogarrhea_> i installed the lib essentials for c++ yet cout is not a member of std when i compile
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, Mate is based on gnome 2 is all not really used in ubuntu.
[03:05] <dogarrhea_> what is wrong with the compilers on ubuntu?
[03:05] <SysNeko> i3
[03:05] <SysNeko> awesome
[03:06] <SysNeko> Well
[03:06] <dmp450> from a live cd, do you not have access to the standard repositories?
[03:06] <SysNeko> Window managers :I
[03:06] <dmp450> I'm trying to walk somenoe through something, but they cant' install ia32-libs-multiarch.
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea_: what compiler are you using?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, You do but need to open the software sources and tick it and run a update, whay would you need them?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> why*
[03:07] <Ben64> theres pretty much no reason to ever install ia32-libs-multiarch
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> untick the cd and tick the ubuntu repos
[03:07] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: trying to help someone fix their phone. adb needs that apparently
[03:08] <intrader> Anyone, I had to reboot to try sudo apt-get-repository  ---> command not found. I am having problems booting 12.04  image - I am on 13.10 (that has many problwms)
[03:08] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: do you know how to do that from command line? You'll have to excuse me, I haven't used ubuntu for a long time
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, Ask then what release they are running?
[03:08] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: 12.04
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> them*
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader its apt=ADD-repository
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, dmp450 This a cli with a gui?
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> apt-ADD-repository*
[03:09] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:09] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: but I'm talking to them on irc and it's easier to just give them the command
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/software.list
[03:09] <dmp450> hitsujiTMO: what is the ppa I'm looking for?
[03:10] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, try againg - rebooting
[03:10] <dmp450> sorry ,wrong one :P
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> dmp450: ppa for what? no idea haven't been following your convo
[03:10] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: can't you just 'sudo apt-add-repository ppa:<something>' then update?
[03:11] <dmp450> hitsujiTMO: sorry, your message actually pertained partially to what I'm doing :P
[03:11] <Geo>  when doing a ls -l /proc/pid/fd, I see 1 -> pipe:[105923324] ... how can I get more info on that pipe, ie, where is it pointing?
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, For a ppa yes, we were talking about the ubuntu repos you and I
[03:11] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: I see. so if they open the software center they can check something off?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, software sources reached from the softwrae center edit
[03:12] <HaltingState> i have password protected zip; cant unzip it
[03:12] <HaltingState> Archive:  ./w.zip
[03:12] <HaltingState>    skipping: wallet.dat              unsupported compression method 99
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> geo: it's not pointing anywhere ,.. something else reads it from that location
[03:12] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: ??
[03:12] <HaltingState> the launcher unzip does not work either; this is insane
[03:12] <HaltingState> on 13.10 i cant unzip zip files with password created on 11.10
[03:12] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: then what would the select in there?
[03:13] <SysNeko> Halting do you have the tools to unzip it?
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, Heh, notice the word differences software center software sources totally different things
[03:13] <HaltingState> SysNeko, unzip, nautelus/launcher, 7z, unrar, gunzip; tried everything
[03:13] <SysNeko> Hmmm
[03:13] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: yeah, caught me off gaurd at first
[03:13] <dmp450> then I realized :P
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:13] <SysNeko> And it is password protected yeah?
[03:14] <dmp450> I used the software center once long ago, so it kind of rings a bell :P
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> geo: info on them: http://linux.die.net/man/7/pipe
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> I never use it
[03:14] <HaltingState> "error occourred while extracting files" in the GUI thing and then on command line error is "unsupported compression method 99"
[03:14] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: is it just 'ubuntu repositories' or something in there?
[03:14] <dmp450> or canonical repos or something
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> HaltingState: what compression method was used?
[03:15] <HaltingState> 9.10 zip through gui
[03:15] <HaltingState> just zip file with password
[03:15] <SysNeko> try install p7zip p7zip-plugins
[03:15] <SysNeko> then retry extracting it
[03:15] <SysNeko> via 7z
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> dmp450,  software-properties-gtk brings up the software sources, untick the cd and tick the repos then run a update for access.
[03:16] <HaltingState> SysNeko, p7zip plugins is now p7zip -full
[03:16] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: alright. You the best, thanks a bunch :)
[03:16] <SysNeko> Oh well yeah
[03:16] <SysNeko> Then try that
[03:17] <HaltingState> SysNeko, works, for 7z t w.zip
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, I would take note 0f Ben64's comment on needing it though, ubuntu changes package names in lieu of other package sets that do the same in general is all.
[03:18] <HaltingState> SysNeko, error when i try to extract through gui still
[03:18] <SysNeko> try cmd line
[03:18] <SysNeko> Oh wait
[03:18] <HaltingState> SysNeko, command line worked
[03:18] <HaltingState> gui fails
[03:18] <SysNeko> You need a gui huh
[03:18] <SysNeko> Well darn
[03:18] <SysNeko> Hmmm
[03:18] <HaltingState> it would be nice if the unzip worked in ubuntu; yes
[03:18] <SysNeko> I dont know mayne
[03:18] <SysNeko> I do most stuff via cmdline so
[03:19] <HaltingState> so this is definately but in naeutlus
[03:19] <SysNeko> I am not sure how you would fix that issue
[03:19] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: that is noted then
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:19] <HaltingState> also in empathy with logging off, i get "-4 unread messages" and cant read messages
[03:19] <SysNeko> lol
[03:19] <dmp450> I'm just going off of a guide I found online that says to install it
[03:19] <HaltingState> which is another bug in 13.10
[03:19] <SysNeko> report em
[03:19] <SysNeko> Always good to get that stuff reported asap
[03:19] <dmp450> with my distro, using adb 'just worked'
[03:19] <SysNeko> For a fix asap
[03:19] <zerocircle> ubuntu 3.10 runs very fast and smooth in comp as compare to 3.4
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> HaltingState: its using a larger than standard keysize ( norm in 7zip ) just unzip it and rezip it with another zip tool
[03:20] <HaltingState> 13.10 is my favorite release so far, but one with worst bugs
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> adb worked here just easier to use windows for my needs though
[03:20] <SysNeko> Well i think the point is that this bug exists
[03:20] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: we ran into drivers issues with windows
[03:21] <SysNeko> I would just use cmd line for extraction and what not and report it for it to be fixed when possible
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> ah, it happens I did a couple of times with my Nexus 7
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> HaltingState: dont report the zip bug ... its not a bug, it's just that you used a non standard compression. do report the empathy bug tho
[03:21] <HaltingState> hitsujiTMO, its not non-standard compression, it was compressed through 9.10 gui
[03:22] <jsmith__> hey hey
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> HaltingState: ok, sorry, thought you meant a z7ip gui.
[03:22] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: yeah, nice thing with Linux is that you don't get those drivers issues
[03:22] <HaltingState> the naeutelous or whatever/unity gui
[03:22] <dmp450> you get nvidia driver issues instead :P
[03:23] <HaltingState> this was my bitcoin wallet too, so i was freaking out
[03:23] <jsmith__> im trying to use a chmod group user but i want to do it at the room and let it propigate to all other folders
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> dmp450, Heh, hang here another 5 min you will see them.
[03:23] <SysNeko> HAling have you looked around in dconf?
[03:23] <dmp450> jsmith__: add -R
[03:23] <jsmith__> home directory rather
[03:23] <HaltingState> i tried brute forcing password etc and crazy stuff but it was zip program being idiot; now i am going to use GPG or something
[03:23] <jsmith__> kk
[03:24] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: yeah, haha, this was the first place I came when I had them
[03:24] <dmp450> love my nvidia
[03:25] <dmp450> I was really new to linux back then. dr willis helped me back then.
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> very helpful user for sure, helped me as well
[03:28]  * Dr_Willis exersizes his right to remain silent.
[03:28] <jeetpei> Hi All
[03:28] <SysNeko> Hey bud.
[03:28] <JohnnyFive5> Howdy!
[03:29] <enav_lt> hello, i got ubuntu 12.10 in my laptop and after i installed the updates my wallpaper is gone, unity is quite unstable and crash often, this is my laptop is E1-531, with an intel video card, all used to work perfect till today
[03:29] <jeetpei> i have a ddebian installer .. but it does not check version while instaling
[03:29] <jeetpei> and i can upgrdae newr version with older :)
[03:29] <jeetpei> so how would i check version and abort installing
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> enav_lt:  most people stick to the LTS release. or the latest release. sticking to a release in between is not really that good an idea.
[03:30] <jeetpei> SysNeko: ?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> enav_lt:  but you may want to make a new user. and see if th eproblems still happen to them
[03:30] <enav_lt> i understand that but i was working in this machine and got some work pending
[03:31] <dmp450> wilee-nilee: ^ the doctor at work
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> if a new user works properly, try resetting your problem users config/settings perhaps.
[03:31] <suiang> :-P
[03:32]  * Dr_Willis reallyh needs to make up a flow chart for this debugging routine.. anyone seen a site that can do interactive flow charts? that would be sort of neat way to help walk people through trouble shooting
[03:32] <enav_lt> i already reset unity and all the compiz config but the problem persist
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> enav_lt:  id test with a new user in that case. if the new user has the same issue - that points to it being to some sort of driver/system setting issue
[03:33] <enav_lt> my wallpaper is black and when i move a window i left behind a trial of pictures like that old solitaire game or the classic video win xp bug
[03:33] <enav_lt> check out
[03:33] <enav_lt> http://imagebin.org/275492
[03:34] <SchrodingersScat> enav_lt: very modern art, i like it
[03:34] <enav_lt> heh
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> sounds like nautilus may not be manageing the desktop
[03:35] <SysNeko> Oh man loving that art enav_lt
[03:35] <enav_lt> looks like im a bit screwed
[03:35] <SysNeko> 2 cool 4 me
[03:35] <jeetpei> enav_lt : cool desktop
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> enav_lt: were you playing with compiz settings?
[03:36] <jeetpei> SysNeko: any answer for me ?
[03:37] <SysNeko> Sorry i was mia for awhile repeat?
[03:37] <SysNeko> Nvm I will scroll lol
[03:37] <SysNeko> Check version for what?
[03:37] <SysNeko> Your debian version?
[03:37] <enav_lt> no, i was on the ravel work with the laptop for a month and then i got home to install those pending updates, the normal routine, and when i restart BANG the desktop went nuts, and unity crash some times for no aparent reason
[03:38] <enav_lt> i followed some tutorials on how restart compiz and unity
[03:38] <enav_lt> reinstall the whole thing, delete the config files and the laptop came back to like but still unstable
[03:38] <dogarrhea> where can i find where something has been installed?
[03:38] <dogarrhea> locate lapack shows nothing
[03:39] <jeetpei> Yes
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: dpkg-query -L <package_name>
[03:39] <suiang> :-O
[03:39] <dogarrhea> hitsujiTMO: this has been installed from source/make
[03:39] <dogarrhea> https://github.com/xianyi/OpenBLAS
[03:40] <enav_lt> brb
[03:40] <dogarrhea> not a package manager
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: look in the makefile then
[03:40] <SysNeko> jeetpei have you tried cat /etc/issue
[03:40] <jeetpei> SysNeko: i built a debian package for wheezy now if i upgrade a newer version of this package with older .. i see i can do this.. so what i want is check package version and abort install if already newer
[03:40] <SysNeko> Ohhhhh
[03:41] <SysNeko> I see now
[03:41] <SysNeko> I am not sure sorry lol
[03:41] <jeetpei> :) np
[03:41] <SysNeko> I was confused on what you wanted
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> jeetpei: apt-mark hold <packagename>
[03:41] <jeetpei> where should i place this code
[03:41] <jeetpei> ?
[03:41] <jeetpei> in prerm ?
[03:42] <dogarrhea> what is the purpose of locate if it can't find anything
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> jeetpei: yes in the terminal
[03:42] <dogarrhea> not even sudo locate lapack does anything from /
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: it has a database then needs to periodically refreshed
[03:42] <jeetpei> i guess i am still confusing for you guys
[03:42] <dogarrhea> so it's useless for me when it's not refreshed?
[03:42] <dogarrhea> and it's not refreshed by default so it's useless for me
[03:43] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, actually i used add-apt-repository - has rewritten the boot; however 12.04 does not boot -same behavior as before boot repair. ----> it hangs; when I type CR I get 'acpid:exiting' perhaps indicating where the problem lies. How do I repair the 12.04 image
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: its faster than find
[03:43] <jeetpei> i want to check version in debian package ..which i built
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> jeetpei, This is ubuntu not debian support
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> dogarrhea:  update the locate database
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: where exactly is it hanging?
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> dogarrhea:  locate uses a database.. find does not.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> dogarrhea:  'sudo updatedb'  ; this is auto ran every day by cron
[03:43] <jeetpei> wilee-nilee : np thanks for informing
[03:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, for more than a minute I get a blank screen with a _ cursor.
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: try booting with nomodeset
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | Internet13
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: if that doesn't work, come back and we'll go to the next step
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> jeetpei, If you speak in a accusatory many times people respond, (the player method}
[03:45] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, first time I hear of nomodeset. How do I do this
[03:46] <jeetpei> wilee-nilee, got it
[03:46] <jeetpei> :) thanks
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> read the url the bot gave intrader .
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: when you get to the grub menu, press 'e'    ... it opens an editor and you need to append the word nomodeet after "quiet splash"
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> s/nomodeet/nomodeset
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> then press f10 to boot
[03:47] <demon> Hi I have Dell inspirion N7110 laptop. Ubuntu does not boot whenever anything is plugged in USB 3.0 port. There is perpetual blank screen with very loud purring of the fan No problem with USB 2.0 Port. It is a bug mentioned in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/978891. No activity in the problem. So can I selectively disable USB 3.0 port at boot adding kernel parameters?
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> demon: you should have a usb 3.0 legacy mode in your bios menu
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> demon, or at least some options for it there
[03:49] <intrader> Dr_Willis, hitsujiTMO the screen is garbled ---> lines unreadable. hitsujiTMO , I will follow with boot sequence
[03:49] <demon> hitsujiTMO, I have the latest bios flashed. I could not find any? I will recheck.
[03:51] <enav_lt> here i am again, i i switch to the guest account, looks like the problem goes away, how i can truly restore my user configurations
[03:52] <jsmith__> why do files turn green?
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> enav_lt: should be sometihng in your .config
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> jsmith__: they do that just be fore they get sick
[03:52] <SchrodingersScat> jsmith__: what is permissions?
[03:52] <wafflejock> jsmith__: perhaps they have some mold on them? in what context
[03:52] <wafflejock> haha
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> enav_lt, Reverse what you have done,
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> jsmith__: most likely its that its set as an executable
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> jsmith__: depends on your terminal colour config
[03:53] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat: I'll take permissions for 500
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> jsmith__, When and where, never heard of this.
[03:53] <jsmith__> cuase when i put permissions on them they trun green
[03:53] <enav_lt> i dont even know what i did
[03:53] <enav_lt> i use this computers for web development
[03:53] <enav_lt> that is all
[03:54] <wafflejock> enav_lt: is it a big deal to just switch users.. not sure how easy it will be to properly clean up your user config files
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> enav_lt, Ah, that is the crux of manipulating the OS to some extent.
[03:54] <SchrodingersScat> wilee-nilee: sorry, now I can't read the answer.
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> jsmith__: the termal uses colours to describe attributes for file.... by default bold green is usually an executable
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> enav_lt, Ubuntu does not have a recovery to an earlier working set up you have to be aware of your work.
[03:55] <wafflejock> jsmith__: man ls
[03:55] <wafflejock> jsmith__: color is an option for ls
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> enav_lt: try reanming a folder at a time in your .config directory ... until you find the config causing it
[03:56] <jsmith__> thanks wafflejock
[03:56] <enav_lt> if i delete it, ubuntu will create a new with default values?
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> enav_lt: it should, yes
[03:56] <wafflejock> jsmith__: np
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> enav_lt: but some of those configs you want to keep, so just rename
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> changing the admin name has a set of problems
[03:57] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: if you make the new user a sudoer are there still issues?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> wafflejock, Depends on what you want to do in the end, but yes.
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> sudo is not the whole pie
[04:00] <Dr_Willis> sudo is more of a cake. it has a lot of layers
[04:00] <TDJACR> Has anybody noticed a slow-down of Firefox recently
[04:00] <TDJACR> (In the last two weeks)
[04:00] <wafflejock> TDJACR: don't use firefox personally but you prob need to be more specific, using lots of RAM, CPU or internet is slow
[04:01] <TDJACR> wafflejock: The UI is not very responsive (at all). It's using average RAM and CPU
[04:01] <wafflejock> TDJACR: ah meant is the process using a lot of CPU/RAM if you watch in htop or system monitor?
[04:02] <TDJACR> wafflejock: Not more than it used to, and I certainly have plenty of resources left
[04:02] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I did not find where I should insert nomodset; to you mean at the word splash? . By the way when I try to boot 12.04 I get the message 'checking for unatended upgrades'. This is what is interrupted when I type CR
[04:02] <TDJACR> wafflejock: I also tried a new FF profile (no history, plugins, etc). Same result.
[04:03] <blausand> Hi there. After reinstalling nvidia drivers GUI is starting for Guest, but not for me. How do i reset personal settings for Unity or whatever is troubling?          (System will not run in X-failsafe mode at all! root shell of recovery mode doesn't mount my root file system)        (System: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with nVidia Geforce 485GTX, iirc)
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: after the the word splash .... so it should read: kernel  something something something    quiet nosplash nomodeset
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: after the the word splash .... so it should read: kernel  something something something    quiet splash nomodeset
[04:03] <wafflejock> TDJACR: not sure like I  said don't use it much but I just popped it open had some updates that had just come in but has been snappy otherwise... maybe need to check with firefox channel or something?
[04:04] <intrader> hitsujiTMO sorry my ignorance. I will try again.
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: damn, i hate when you say morning, it means i've been up too late ... again
[04:07] <wafflejock> TDJACR: yeah really only problems can be CPU maxed RAM maxed (therefore using swap on HDD) or else some sort of blocking operation is occuring that is waiting for some resource to become available and doesn't realize it is available
[04:07] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: lotuspsychje yeah had to check my clock
[04:07] <dogarrhea> blah
[04:07] <wafflejock> five past 11 here
[04:07] <dogarrhea> it doesn't install to /usr/lib but i don't know where it installs
[04:07] <wafflejock> pm
[04:08] <dogarrhea> maybe there was some error during make that didn't halt
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> 4:07am here :P
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: those ubuntu timezones are fantastic :p
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> always someone around
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: if there was an error duing make install then it would tell you
[04:09] <dogarrhea> the make took 30 minutes
[04:09] <dogarrhea> i can't find that error
[04:09] <dogarrhea> in all of the output that it has been producing
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: the error would be near the end
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: did you look at the makefile for the install path?
[04:10] <dogarrhea> it's $(BLHAHAHAFINDME)
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: can you post it?
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: did you just do make? or sudo make install?
[04:11] <dogarrhea> sudo make
[04:11] <blausand> I got my / remounted as rw. Now: What file do i have to mv given my UI login fails due to nvidia driver removal? (Guest login works fine)
[04:11] <dogarrhea> quick install instructions
[04:11] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteall.org/46964
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: make shouldnt install it  ... sudo make install shoul install it
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> i tryed to connect a wifi repeater yesterday with ubuntu laptop, disabled wifi connection and it was still searching for a network..i could not connect the http://192 with eth cable on this device..any clues?
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: try sudo make install now
[04:13] <dogarrhea> said "Install OK!"
[04:13] <dogarrhea> something was installed at /opt/OpenBLAS/lib but it wasn't lapack
[04:14] <santosh> How do I rotate OpenOffice Writer page at 90 deg?
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> santosh what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[04:15] <dogarrhea> bah
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> santosh, right click  choose landscape
[04:16] <dogarrhea> why can't i sudo make > someFile.txt
[04:16] <dogarrhea> i thought the whole purpose of sudo was to give permission
[04:16] <dogarrhea> this seems quite annoying
[04:16] <santosh> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> !eol | santosh
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> 11.10 is EOL
[04:17] <arosen1> Does ubuntu have a way to do revdep-rebuild ?
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> we're all on libreoffice now adays
[04:17] <santosh> Oh no! Now I can't install newer version for this very task.
[04:17] <arosen1> I'm running into this issue: root@arosen-laptop:/home/arosen# qemu
[04:17] <arosen1> qemu: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:18] <santosh> wilee-nilee: there is no landscape in right click menu.
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> santosh: i'll see if i can find out how to to it for libre office, buit its prob different for openoffice
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> santosh: format -> page -> page is whats in libreoffice
[04:19] <dogarrhea> sudo -s "make" > stupidPermissionDeniedError        Permission denied
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> santosh, click page-page
[04:19] <dogarrhea> why isn't it letting me pipe
[04:19] <dogarrhea> this seems like usability bug
[04:20] <santosh> OK! thanks, it worked..
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> santosh, an eol OS and a 3rd party app hmm, nice.
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> dogarrhea: because the sudo doesnt follow the pipe. sudo make | sudo tee ouputfile
[04:22] <dogarrhea> is there a way to alt + f2 and sudo gedit
[04:22] <dogarrhea> sudo gedit in terminal blocks the terminal
[04:22] <dogarrhea> so annoying
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> gksudo
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> sorry, if you dont want to block the terminal, gksudo gedit &
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> dogarrhea, Can you just list all your annoyances in one post and get it over with, its rather boring.
[04:24] <dogarrhea> wilee-nilee: i don't know when i'll be annoyed until I get annoyed
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> a terrible nick and complaining, its as if the world revolves around just you.
[04:25] <dogarrhea> ignored i have things to do
[04:27] <santosh> I want to erase vertical lines (coulmns) for a particular row in a table.
[04:27] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteall.org/46965
[04:28] <ProjectRec0n> so, I have a question - I installed fglrx (I have an ATI HD 6450) and steam - and I guess I borked my video drivers, cause on the reboot, on booting my distro(Kubuntu), after the name splash, when KDE is supposed to start, my display just goes blank/black. I"m now booted into a live session. How can I fix the install on my HDD from the live-session?
[04:28] <dogarrhea> in all of this output i could not find liblapack or lapack.so or lapack.a or whatever the lbirary is
[04:28] <hitsujiTMO> santosh: #openoffice.org would be a better place to be asking these questions
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> ProjectRec0n, You would have to chroot easier done from the desktop do a nomodeset boot.
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | ProjectRec0n try this first
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset
[04:30] <dubby> anyone with some server knowledge, the `sudo service --status-all` command seems to not come through stdout so i am having trouble redirecting it
[04:30] <dubby> anyone got some hints
[04:33] <dogarrhea> guess the installer included for openblas is broken
[04:33] <dogarrhea> had to install the packages from some ubuntu repository
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> dubby: what exactly is happening?
[04:33] <santosh> hitsujiTMO: very less peoples, no reply :(
[04:34] <dubby> when i do service --status-all > file i get only the services in the - and + states (not the ? states) as content of the file
[04:34] <dubby> same if i do service --status-all | less
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> ? state goes to stderr
[04:35] <DrGrov> Quick question. Can I remove the ubuntu-scope lenses without breaking anything?
[04:35] <ProjectRec0n> wilee-nilee, hitsujiTMO : so, I use chroot after mnting my linux install drv using the live session, change the grub config and update grub, got it, but how do I say for sure, it's my video drivers? I mean, I'm not sure. Is there a particular log I can look for : Xorg.0.log?
[04:35] <DrGrov> Running 13.10.
[04:36] <wafflejock> DrGrov: if you don't want the lense altogether you should probably just go with a different DE
[04:36] <BlueProtoman> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10.  I love the return of the terminal built in to Nautilus.  Problem is, when I type slash ("/"), rather than the terminal outputting "/" the breadcrumbs at the top of the window prompt me to enter a new path.  Any tips?
[04:36] <dubby> @hitsujiTMO thank you
[04:36] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Ok. They are not disturbing me anymore. They are just in there but luckily Privacy did the trick.
[04:36] <x_root> Hello, how could i mount a disc/partition in startup?
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> ProjectRec0n, You can use nomodeset from the grub boot menu.
[04:37] <dubby> @x_root add to fstab
[04:37] <n0per> Okay, i'm new to ubuntu, how do i install stuff?
[04:37] <x_root> because, i did from the disks and now everytime i create a file/folder there is created as root
[04:37] <ProjectRec0n> wilee-nilee, I got that part, I'm kinda wanting to see the error from the last logs..
[04:37] <DrGrov> wafflejock: But I can remove them without problems?
[04:37] <wafflejock> DrGrov: http://askubuntu.com/questions/358989/install-gnome-3-10-in-ubuntu-13-10-without-breaking-unity
[04:37] <wafflejock> DrGrov: you can use other DEs instead of or along side Unity
[04:38] <dubby> @n0per ubuntu software center
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> dubby: np
[04:38] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Ok. Probably that is what I would do then. Is Gnome a suitable candidate if I do not want to switch to KDE?
[04:38] <wafflejock> DrGrov: if you install another DE you'll end up with lots of packages from both though depending on how much crossover they have
[04:38] <xmetal> if you want to try different DE's .. there is no need to (if you dont want to) remove the ones already instealled
[04:38] <wafflejock> DrGrov: sorry not sure about current stat of gnome
[04:38] <wafflejock> state*
[04:38] <xmetal> <~~has many installed
[04:38] <sr20dett> how do i add the #include <qurlquery> class to my app in the sdk, i want to replace two variables in a url and have it open that url
[04:39] <DrGrov> wafflejock: No problem. I will stick with Unity for the time being. I like it more and more after every Ubuntu release.
[04:39] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Thank you for the help.
[04:39] <wafflejock> DrGrov: using Kubuntu 13.04 right now and happy with it, I had installed gnome with 13.04 previously but only briefly
[04:39] <wafflejock> DrGrov: np
[04:39] <wafflejock> actually doing my first from minimal install CD on a real old Dell C600 laptop right now
[04:39] <wafflejock> just for the heck of it
[04:40] <xmetal> i have a different OS installed here .. .not even sure which DE would be considered "gnome" on it
[04:40] <ProjectRec0n> ilee-nilee, ok I just re-read your last comment again (I missed that part), but GRUB menu doesn't even show up on boot -is it because while installing kubuntu I said auto-login - and the grub menu timeout is too low??
[04:40] <wafflejock> picked Xubuntu packages for it since it's an old dog... used a 2.5" HDD I had previously worn as part of a halloween costume but worked better than the one that was in there
[04:40] <ProjectRec0n> wilee-nilee, ok I just re-read your last comment again (I missed that part), but GRUB menu doesn't even show up on boot -is it because while installing kubuntu I said auto-login - and the grub menu timeout is too low??
[04:41] <wafflejock> ProjectRec0n: auto login isn't to do with grub
[04:41] <DrGrov> wafflejock: What is your take on different media players, mainly for video?
[04:41] <xmetal> i go from DE to DE ... whatever i feel like at the time
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> ProjectRec0n, If the linux install is the only one use the shift key at powering on the trigger grub.
[04:41] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Any own personal preferences?
[04:41] <wafflejock> DrGrov: no real good opinion I just listen to stuff on Pithos and use the netflix wrapper
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> to*
[04:41] <wafflejock> DrGrov: VLC
[04:42] <ProjectRec0n> wilee-nilee, thanks gonna try right away
[04:42] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Ok. As I thought, VLC gets the job done. '
[04:42] <wafflejock> DrGrov: I use VLC just about everywhere and it works for everything... in terms of more media center I would go XMBC
[04:42] <karthik> nable to install or update or remove any packages ion UBUNTU 12.04 . The error is http://pastebin.com/3EkcfbDD Please lemme know how do i set it alright . I dont want to reinstall since there are lots of apps that i have downloaded and i dont prefer to redownload all of it again. Please help me .i tried for the update manager , apt-get upgrade , adn even synaptic .. nothing helped . dpkg --configure -a gave me " Setting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu2
[04:42] <karthik> ) ... /etc/environment: line 1: ﻿PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing install-info (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1=Errors were encountered while processing:install-info"  PLEASE HELP
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> ProjectRec0n: if you have only one OS the grub menu will stay hidden unless you hold shift (or esc) during the boot, or on the previous attempt the OS has failed to boot
[04:42] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, same results - hang
[04:43] <xmetal> for videos i use smplayer (mplayer frontend if i am not mistaken) but no matter what os i am on, i find myself going back to VLC most of the time
[04:43] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Would it be easy in 13.10 to attach another monitor to my 42" Full HD TV? Got a LG 23,5" IPS Cinema display. Using nVidia on a GT 620 1GB.
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:ok, can you mount the drive an chroot to it
[04:43] <xmetal> i use SMPlayer sometimes *
[04:43] <xmetal> <~~forgot a word or two there
[04:43] <blausand> <-- crying! "Die Sau lässt mich nicht mehr rein!" Ubuntu login screen keeps throwing me back. Just killed /h/me/.config/some/nvidia-autostart.desktop without success. Any help much appreciated.
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> blausand:  try renameing your .Xauthority file
[04:43] <wafflejock> DrGrov: should be like I said Kubuntu 13.04 here I'm just on a laptop but running two external monitors one through HDMI the other on VGA
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or removeing it blausand
[04:44] <wafflejock> DrGrov: I just used the regular display settings in the settings manager to adjust the position, it kicked on as soon as plugged in
[04:44] <DrGrov> wafflejock: So then it mainly a question about finding the right place for the 2nd monitor. Or first monitor, which ever is more suited.'
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> karthik: what did yu do to get that? did you try uninstall the language pack?
[04:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, from terminal I issue ...
[04:44] <wafflejock> DrGrov: you may have to mess with the nvidia control panel nview thingy
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: yes
[04:44] <wafflejock> DrGrov: yeah
[04:45] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Is there any tweaks I could do from the nVidia control panel?
[04:45] <blausand> ah, oh. Can it be done else than rebooting in recovery mode?
[04:45] <karthik> nope i just upgraded
[04:45] <DrGrov> wafflejock: You got any clue about BIOS and adjusting fans? I completely lost on these new BIOS and machine setups.
[04:45] <karthik> i never removed any packages
[04:45] <wafflejock> DrGrov: not too privvy on that myself I've just gotten it working using that panel but don't know enough about the options to say what would help
[04:46] <wafflejock> DrGrov: usually not a lot of options for fans just Full or Auto sometimes
[04:46] <DrGrov> wafflejock: No problem :) I might just stay on one monitor after all.
[04:46] <wafflejock> DrGrov: BIOS really vary a lot too
[04:46] <wafflejock> two montiors is nice especially for just having media on one
[04:46] <wafflejock> or having code on one screen and output on the other
[04:46] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Oh, I see. It seems like on the pictures in this mobo model guide that it is GUI based with A LOT of stuff in there.
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> karthik: update-locale LANG=n_IN.ISO8859-1 LANGUAGE=n_IN
[04:47] <wafflejock> two monitors and I still need two virtual desktops for it all :)
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> karthik: update-locale LANG=en_IN.ISO8859-1 LANGUAGE=en_IN
[04:47] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Yes, this would be my dream. To keep all regular stuff such as surfing and writing on the smaller and the bigger for movies etc.
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> karthik: type the second one i posted there ... with sudo ofc
[04:47] <DrGrov> wafflejock: I am just too worried to go in the BIOS and start fiddling around LOL'
[04:48] <raedov> hello
[04:48] <raedov> I've another laptop comes with windows 7 preinstalled, in this laptop I've two hard drive, the first one with windows 7 use "the whole space", the second one is 500GB  I want to install Manjaro on a partition of my 500GB, The Q is: Can I dual boot Manjaro and windows 7 on 2 separate hard drives? if yes please tell me what should i do now.
[04:48] <wafflejock> DrGrov: yeah it can be somewhat detrimental mostly things are fine as long as you don't get into changing voltages or modes for the HDD controller
[04:49] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, there are several partitions, which is the partition no mount?
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[04:49] <DrGrov> wafflejock: Yeah, that is my main concern LOL
[04:49] <wafflejock> raedov: you know this is an ubuntu forum yeah?
[04:49] <wafflejock> raedov: you may be better off in the archlinux channel
[04:50] <raedov> wafflejock, ops my mistake thank you
[04:50] <DrGrov> wafflejock: The reason I ask is because this machine is running with a lot of noise somehow. It is not using much CPU power at all but it keeps making a lot of sound. So that is why I thought about the fan system.
[04:50] <ProjectRec0n> okay, so pressing 'right shift' key didnt seem to bring up the grub menu
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> of course the arch linux channel will tell him to go read the wiki pages ;)
[04:51] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6345132/
[04:51] <wafflejock> DrGrov: hmm yeah not so sure about that, I know you can modify the governer values on the CPU to limit it's max frequency and whatnot
[04:51] <deper29> Dr_Willis: they don't do that there
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> ProjectRec0n:  press and HOLD the shift key as it boots.
[04:51]  * deper29 rolls eyes
[04:51] <DrGrov> wafflejock: It feels too much somehow at the moment.
[04:51] <intrader> HisaoNakai, I guess it is sda5
[04:51] <existensil> your still on DrGrov?! haven't you had enough ubuntu installing and tweaking for one day?
[04:52] <sr20dett> can you guys see me posts?
[04:52] <wafflejock> I think tweaking has become a 24/7 endevaour for me
[04:52] <wafflejock> sr20dett: yes we see you you are not a ghost :)
[04:53] <sr20dett> haha i was grey and this is a new client......thanks
[04:53] <existensil> any deviation from irssi is a mistake :-P
[04:53] <intrader> HisaoNakai, according to mtab, /dev/sda5 is already mounted
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> i will stick to Weechat ;)
[04:56] <DrGrov> wafflejock: One nice surprise I see in 13.10 is the absolutely gorgeous implementation of wallpapers, this edition is the sexiest thus far since my Ubuntu days from 12.04 :)
[04:56] <existensil> DrGrov: you mean the included wallpapers are beautiful, or the UI to select a wallpaper is beautiful?
[04:56] <blausand> Dr_Willis: After 24 DuckDuckGo queries, 4 chat rooms, 6 operational approaches, 12 reboots, YOU MADE MY DAAY! removing .Xauthority helped me get back in. YOU GET A BEER IN COLOGNE, DE!
[04:58] <karthik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/369610/package-unable-to-install-or-remove-or-update
[04:58] <karthik> please have a look
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> blausand:  now if you could figurre out WHY  .Xauthority seems to be the issue  for what seems 1/5 the problems like that.. i would love to know
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> DrGrov:  make me feel guilty that i always select a rather minimal solid color wallpaper....   ;)
[05:04] <blausand> Dr_Willis: How can i help you? What i did was i updated from non proprietary graphic drivers to nvidia ones, couldn't launch any X-server, apt purged any nvidia stuff wildly, reboot and could learn as guest from system information that graphics were working as "unknown"...
[05:05] <intrader> HisaoNakai, could I refresh the 12.04 image - I have the CD for 12.04.3
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: erm, did you try to mount chomething as root already? or chroot?
[05:09] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, tells me that /dev/sda5 is already mounted and therefor I can't mount is
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> but why is it mounted as /????
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: did you already chroot?
[05:10] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I am confused, /dev/sda5 is already mounted - how do I chroot
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> intrader ... keep typing exit a few times till the terminal closes. then open the terminal again and type: lsblk       is the output the same?
[05:12] <Guest79747> español ??
[05:12] <hitsujiTMO> !es | Guest79747
[05:13] <existensil> that's handy
[05:13] <Pr0jectRec0n> okay, I tried nomodeset - and that didnt solve the issue - Back to using a live session now. So these are the symptoms - Kubuntu splash screen --> to immediately monitor/display powered off (not just going blank/black - I know as the connected audio speakers get powered off too, however the OS is up, disk activity LED is on and if I press and hold the power button to shutdown, I see the Kubuntu logo again and the PC gracefully s
[05:14] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, exits the terminal - upon restart lsblk get the same
[05:16] <Pr0jectRec0n> wilee-nilee: okay - I looked at the Xorg.0.log  from the failed session and it definitely seems to be from fglrx and/or the ati driver..
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: this the normal live cd?
[05:17] <wafflejock> profligacy: can you get to a a terminal Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[05:17] <wafflejock> profligacy: wrong perosn
[05:17] <wafflejock> Pr0jectRec0n: can you get to a terminal Ctrl+Alt+F1?
[05:17] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, no, not the live CD, it is 13.10 running. what I want is 12.04
[05:18] <Pr0jectRec0n> wafflejock: C+A+F1 - when ? right a tthe point of the kubuntu logo being displayed?
[05:18] <nugroho> WHA420355
[05:18] <nugroho> SOC155694
[05:18] <FloodBot1> nugroho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <wafflejock> Pr0jectRec0n: no when you get to the black screen where it seems to be running but no display
[05:18] <Pr0jectRec0n> wafflejock: wilee-nilee - i am thinking of just deleting/uninstalling fglrx - would that solve my issue?
[05:18] <ionutica-99> I have the following problem if I use nouveau unity runs just fine if I install any nvidia proprietary driver it slows down
[05:18] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I don't know how to start Xchat with the live CD - it does not find Xchat
[05:19] <Pr0jectRec0n> wafflejock: I can try that, but like I said, the monitor powers off - how would launching a terminla help?
[05:19] <BradTN> anyone here really good with software raids :)
[05:19] <wafflejock> it switches to a terminal display so it doesn't rely on the graphics drivers
[05:19] <wafflejock> er at least not on the desktop environment and have gotten in there when having driver issues
[05:20] <ubuntu_user> hello, can anyone please help? what should i check if i'm not able to use 'service' command on particular daemon (munin), it just gives no output at all
[05:20] <wafflejock> can at least see what's going on from there... if you're using a liveCD I suppose that worsk fine to fix things too
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  you can use the freenode web chat. or whatever irc client is on the cd you have. or install xchat
[05:20] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: ahh ok, now i get you
[05:20] <existensil> ubuntu_user: starting/stopping/restarting many services results in no output
[05:21] <ubuntu_user> existensil: and retrieving 'status'?
[05:21] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: more than likely sda1 id your root so try that
[05:21] <Pr0jectRec0n> wilee-nilee: wafflejock - here is the Xorg log wit hteh errors : http://pastebin.com/g5z814kd
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  check the munin logs   and the service status* options to verify the service is running
[05:21] <DrGrov> existensil: The wallpapers are beautiful, the selection UI is sexy as well :)
[05:21] <DrGrov> Dr_Willis: LOL :)
[05:21] <existensil> ubuntu_user: yeah, that should probably give you something, but it all depends on the services upstart script
[05:21] <intrader> Dr_Willis, thanks
[05:22] <wafflejock> are all upstart scripts in /etc/init.d/  ?
[05:22] <DrGrov> existensil: Hi again and a really big thank you for the kind help you provided with making the 1TB into /home. Got all stuff back from the old drive. Had to improvise with the 2,5" drive in the 3,5" USB holder LOL
[05:22] <intrader> Dr_Willis, can firefox do irc?
[05:23] <Kajunfiend> hallowed be the Ori
[05:23] <existensil> lol. watching stargate right now Kajunfiend
[05:23] <Kajunfiend> got another movie to watch on netflix
[05:23] <topper4125> intrader, chatzilla plugin for firefox does irc
[05:23] <ubuntu_user> existensil: status didn't output anything too, and there are no useful info in munin logs unfortunately
[05:24] <Pr0jectRec0n> intrader: FF doesn't need to do IRC, what Dr_Willis suggested was webIRC
[05:24] <ubuntu_user> existensil: could it be because i created a dummy initctl as a symlink to /bin/true when some commands were giving errors?
[05:24] <existensil> ubuntu_user: have you tried tailing /var/log/syslog and seeing if anything useful pops up there when you run service munin something?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  there are irc extgensions . but the freenode website has an irc client as well
[05:25] <Kajunfiend> I wish netflix had stargate atlantis... they just started the movies on there so im expecting the series to be up soon
[05:25] <existensil> ubuntu_user: hehehe. that sounds like it could cause issues. no idea though.
[05:25] <Pr0jectRec0n> intrader: for example you   could use mibbit.com or Freenode's own wechat  http://pastebin.com/g5z814kd
[05:25] <topper4125> Freenode has a online client on their website, no need to install addons to a browser if you don't want to
[05:25] <Pr0jectRec0n> intrader: sorry that link was supposed to be freenode's webchat's : https://webchat.freenode.net/
[05:26] <Pr0jectRec0n> any help with my Xorg log?
[05:27] <intrader> Pr0jectRec0n, thanks
[05:28] <jje_> mibbet is banned on freenode.
[05:28] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, where do I go from here - I want to boot to 12.04 as 13.10 is faulty and unusable to eclipse or android work.
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> Kajunfiend:  heh. did that series actually end.. or just fade away.. i so lost interest in it..
[05:29] <hitsujiTMO> have you mounted /dev/sda1 ?
[05:29] <Kajunfiend> atlantis did
[05:29] <Kajunfiend> but i dont know about stargate universe
[05:29] <topper4125> intrader, do you have them both installed or did you upgrade from 12.04 to 13?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> intrader:  if you use  the freenode webchat. be sure to look in the settings  to disable the part/join messages
[05:30] <wjm9119> hello
[05:30] <wjm9119> 你们好
[05:31] <existensil> Kajunfiend, Dr_Willis ... SGU was cancelled after just 2 seasons, SG1 went on to 9, and I think atlantis went to 7 seasons or so?
[05:31] <existensil> they are all gone now though
[05:31] <Kajunfiend> SGU was unbearable
[05:31] <intrader> Dr_Willis, topper4125, for now I will boot to 13.10. Thanks
[05:31] <topper4125> !cn
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: have you mounted /dev/sda1 ?
[05:31] <existensil> i really liked parts of SGU. i liked the approach of filming it in a more dramatic fashion like Battlestar... they just had some crappy actors and writers mess up the idea
[05:32] <existensil> though i liked the main plumpy young guy
[05:32] <snyh>  #go-nuts
[05:32] <wjm9119> 有谁知道QQ那下啊
[05:33] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, from which environment?. sda1 is likely to be an NTSF windows partition
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: from whatever your in ... mount it and we'll fiund out: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> int intrader look in /mnt and tell me what you see
[05:35] <hitsujiTMO> o.O some indian repos have gone down :P
[05:36] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, it looks green all over! it appears to be the windows partition
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:  cd ~; sudo umount /mnt; sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt; cd /mnt; cat /etc/issue
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:  cd ~; sudo umount /mnt; sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt; cd /mnt; cat etc/issue
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: use the second one
[05:40] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, sda7 is ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[05:41] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cat /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[05:41] <A_J_> Hey all, my auto DHCP for my ubuntu pc is not working.. the network connection place keeps loading. please can someone help me
[05:43]  * A_J_ looks around
[05:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I think you are a wizard - the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6345273/
[05:45] <A_J_> HisaoNakai can you assist me
[05:46] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: where did you get the nvidia driver from?
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> A_J_, You are not new here and know the rules, follow them.
[05:46]  * A_J_ nods
[05:47] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, it was offered as the preferred driver and I activated it
[05:47] <existensil> A_J_: just to clarify (not an ubuntu networking expert) are you saying your ubuntu system is not accessing your DHCP server and obtaining a lease, or are you trying to use ubuntu as a DHCP server?
[05:47] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: hmm, ok... the kernel module isn't working ... try reinstalling it
[05:47] <A_J_> existensil not able to get on the DHCP network at my home.
[05:48] <A_J_> it used to work fine till yesterday on auto DHCP. now it's not
[05:48] <OptimizedCoder> wilee-nilee, wafflejock : I fixed my video driver issue - it was fglrx :D
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> A_J_:  ran the dhclient program yet and see if any error messages come up?
[05:49] <OptimizedCoder> Ctrl+Alt+F1 -- magically did bring up the console :D - and I just removed fglrx and other dependencies and purged them :D
[05:49] <OptimizedCoder> now I'm happily booted into my os..
[05:50] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, to do it: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-.*-generic    is this Ok
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> wait ...
[05:50] <hitsujiTMO> your in the wrong system ..
[05:50] <A_J_> Dr_Willis a second. just trying to see if it works with a static ip
[05:51] <existensil> A_J_: what do you get from these two commands: `ifconfig` and `cat /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier` ? (assuming ethernet at eth0)
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: can you run these commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6345288/
[05:52] <A_J_> existensil i won't be able to pastebin you the results as the pc is offline sadly
[05:52] <existensil> A_J_: so, it does work with a static IP? just not on auto?
[05:52] <A_J_> nop it's not working..
[05:52] <A_J_> even though i've specified the IP. the router can't seem to see itr
[05:52] <existensil> A_J_: the output from `cat /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier` is only a single character
[05:53] <existensil> ideally it should be "1". if its "0" then your network card doesn't even think its plugged in.
[05:53] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, would this preserve the 13.10?
[05:53] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: you're not touching 13.10 at all
[05:54] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, Ok, here we go
[05:54] <A_J_> 0
[05:55] <existensil> A_J_: well, there you go. for whatever reason (possibly driver, maybe hardware problem, most likely a bad cable/connecter) your network card says its not plugged into anything
[05:55] <A_J_> the light is blinking at the back though.
[05:56] <existensil> A_J_: you are using ethernet, right? and when you do ifconfig you only get "eth0" and not some other device starting with "eth", right?
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: that last line i made a mistake on, so you'll just get an error
[05:56] <A_J_> Dr_Willis a dhclient using sudo doesnt do anything.  hangs the terminal
[05:56] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: do the others: then it's: sudo chroot /mnt
[05:56] <A_J_> eth0 and l0 existensil
[05:57] <existensil> hmm. do you know what network card/chip is being used?
[05:57] <existensil> was this working previously?
[05:58] <existensil> if the lights are blinking that at least suggests a driver issue
[05:58] <A_J_> it's a stock intel board.
[05:58] <A_J_> yea it was working till yesterday
[05:59] <existensil> hmm
[05:59] <A_J_> thing is this problem comes along every now and then
[05:59] <A_J_> and resolves itself.
[05:59] <existensil> that's weird. ok, now i'm back to thinking its faulty hardware.
[05:59] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, no error after sudo chroot /mnt
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> wired network A_J_ ?
[05:59] <A_J_> yes Dr_Willis
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> made sur the dog or kids havent chewed on the cables? ;) (personal expernence)
[06:00] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: ok, you're now int the 12.04 install ... you can verify this with: cat /etc/issue
[06:00] <A_J_> Dr_Willis i went over with a continuity tester
[06:00] <existensil> A_J_: yeah, sounds like all thats left to do is start ruling things out
[06:00] <A_J_> it seems fine.. plus it works perfectly well in windows
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> A_J_:  a test with a live cd - IF the live cd works fine. would verify also i think that the wires are ok.
[06:01] <existensil> try another cable. then i'd try another network card, to hopefully determine if its software or just that one network card
[06:01] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, yes it is ubuntu 12.04.3
[06:01] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: make sure the usual culprits are installed: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:01] <existensil> yeah, if live cd works its obviously something in the OS
[06:02] <existensil> it works fine in windows, eh? have you tried selecting an older kernel on boot with ubuntu and see if it resolves itself again?
[06:03] <wafflejock> holy XFCE troubles batmant
[06:03] <wafflejock> didn't have an xorg.conf for some reason
[06:03] <A_J_> okie. the wired network keeps conecting and disconnecting in windows
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: actually that uname -r might cause problems. sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source linux-headers
[06:04] <wafflejock> finally got that minimal boot CD install actually working yay! more linux
[06:04] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I am unclea about linux-headers- ...
[06:04] <A_J_> so i should order a new NIC then existensil.
[06:04] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-source linux-headers
[06:04] <existensil> A_J_: ah, so its again looking like hardware
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> A_J_:  id swap out some cables also.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> might get lucky
[06:05] <existensil> i'd at least try another cable if you have one. conductivity tests don't always tell you what you need.
[06:05] <topper4125> !yay | wafflejock
[06:05] <A_J_> problem is it's a conceled network, my router is in the other room
[06:05] <A_J_> close to 15-20m away
[06:05]  * topper4125 loves minimal installs
[06:06] <existensil> ah, i see. old laptop that can confirm the cable is GTG?
[06:06] <gster> Hi all, does any of you have experience recovering deleted ecryptfs data ?
[06:06] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: once that's done give me the output of: uname -r
[06:06]  * lifebird64 recently upgraded to 13.10. Now unable to play DVD disks even though he's got libdvdread4 installed; color him cornfused. ideas?
[06:06] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I get a bunch of Failed to fetch ....
[06:07] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what servers are you using?
[06:07] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, what do you mean 'servers I am using'
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what repos are you using? indian repos by any chance?
[06:08] <existensil> gster: that sounds like it would be really hard
[06:08] <existensil> gl
[06:08] <A_J_> existensil let me check
[06:08] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I don't know - I downloaded 12.03.3 iso
[06:08] <gster> existensil: I have the encryption key though
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what country did you set during the install?
[06:09] <existensil> gster: ah. wouldn't it be similar to regular file recovery then? you'll just have to unencrypted the recovered file
[06:09] <kingbeast> 12.03?
[06:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: a better question: what country are you in :P
[06:10] <existensil> i thought encryptfs was still writing to actual files in an actual directory... they just had encrypted filenames and values
[06:10] <gster> existensil: this is what I am hoping but I am entirely sure
[06:10] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, USA
[06:10] <existensil> but i'm not sure
[06:10] <heed> how do i upgrade to 13.10 ;-;
[06:10] <A_J_> existensil it's giving the same problem on annother pc too.
[06:10] <cfhowlett> heed, download 13.10.  clean install is the recommended option
[06:10] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: hmm ... there's no way 2 sets of server haves gone down  ...
[06:10] <topper4125> !upgrade
[06:10] <existensil> A_J_: oh noes... time to open the wall.
[06:10] <existensil> or maybe just remake the ends of the cable
[06:11] <existensil> or, if its wall outlets, you know, cut them and repatch them to the outlet
[06:11] <A_J_> i don't think i made them that well the first time
[06:11] <existensil> lol
[06:11] <topper4125> heed, you really only want to upgrade from LTS to LTS for other versions... full install is always recommended
[06:11] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, are you suggesting that the iso is bad?
[06:12] <existensil> make sure you have the crossover thing!
[06:12] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: no. can you try pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:12] <existensil> i haven't made an ethernet cable in years
[06:12] <cfhowlett> heed, what ubuntu do you have installed?
[06:12] <A_J_> you don't need a crossover from modem -> pc existensil
[06:12] <A_J_> atleast i think so
[06:13] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: aaah ... the us archive is syncing atm ... thats the problem
[06:13] <existensil> sure you do. straight-through is only meant for direct pc-to-pc linking
[06:13] <existensil> i think
[06:13] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, it finished installing Ok and came up ok. Only after running 13.10 I coule not reboot 12.04
[06:13] <existensil> hahaha. that was like a decade ago, so...
[06:13] <heed> edubuntu 13.04
[06:13] <heed> gonna install plain ubuntu 13.10
[06:14] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, ping: unknown host us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <kamori> man ls
[06:14] <kamori> woops
[06:14] <A_J_> existensil can you help me set it up via wifi
[06:14] <existensil> A_J_: set what up via wifi?
[06:14] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: thats weird ... try pinging ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:14] <A_J_> connect the pc to the network
[06:15] <existensil> DHCP should work over wifi just the same as ethernet... the only difference is the extra step of selecting a network
[06:15] <existensil> assuming drivers are all setup
[06:15] <A_J_> i don't think for linux they have been setup
[06:15] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, --->unknown host
[06:16] <kamori> Question, when I read a man page at the bottom it says "See Also" what does the (#) mean next to the names... like, mount(2) umount(2) fstab(5)
[06:16] <hitsujiTMO> crap ... ok, looks like the chroot might not be picking uo the net for some reason .... what way are you connected to the net ... wiki or wired?
[06:16] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:^
[06:16] <A_J_> existensil so i plugged in the USB dongle
[06:17] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, don't understand
[06:17] <topper4125> heed, you could upgrade edubuntu to 13.10, and install ubuntu-desktop...  best of both worlds...
[06:17] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what was is that pc connected to the network ... wifi or ethernet?
[06:18] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, don't understand - can you explain what you are driving at?
[06:18] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, wifi for this conversation. ethernet for the install of 12.04.3
[06:19] <existensil> A_J_: yeah, i just plugged in my linux compatible wifi usb dongle, and immediately the networking menu has wifi stuff and a list of SSIDs being broadcast
[06:19] <hitsujiTMO> sorry, i'm mistyping a lot on this keyboard ... different layout to what i'm used to. I need you to boot your pc to text mode on the 12.04 ... but you're going to need net access ...
[06:19] <existensil> if you aren't getting that then you'll have to figure out what you need to do to get your wifi drivers setup
[06:19] <aditya007> hello guys can any1 help me out please??
[06:19] <heed> y yes aditya007
[06:20] <topper4125> aditya007, just ask... if anyone can answer, they will ;)
[06:20] <A_J_> this is what i got : http://www.flipkart.com/tp-link-150-mbps-tl-wn721n-wireless-n/p/itmd8rrpdjyrtcwn?pid=USBD8RRP4ZEZVS98&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=wifi+usb&ref=422469c4-d7af-4022-9d61-5763d3a56f4e
[06:21] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what you'll need to do is to the way you did 'nomodeset' ... you'll need to do 'text' instead. then once your in you need to update your apt and install the necessary tools to reinstall the graphics. then you're gonna reinstall the grpahics
[06:21] <aditya007> i have win vista bu want to install ubuntu 13.10 wubi isnt working for me its downloading 13.10 iso whre as i already hav a 13.10 iso...I also put them in same folder too...so im gonna install by usb stick using unetbootin but my question is will my win vista will be wiped out?? and will my F:/ drive files be gone??(im installing ubuntu on F:/ drive help please
[06:22] <existensil> A_J_: that adapter should be supported natively by any kernel since at least like 11.10
[06:22] <A_J_> existensil how do i check if the wifi thing is installed
[06:22] <heynow> hey all
[06:22] <existensil> A_J_: the networking menu should just have wifi stuff in it
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  i think wubi is not designed to work with 13.10  - and wubi is a dead project as far as i know.
[06:22] <existensil> it should happen within a couple seconds of plugging it in
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  best to not use wubi any more
[06:22] <A_J_> you mean the dropdown from the taskbar ( using xbuntu)
[06:23] <aditya007> ok thank you and can you please tell the ans o second question if possible?? please
[06:23] <existensil> ah, yeah, don't know about xubuntu
[06:23] <existensil> ifconfig shows a wlan0?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  you can resize the windows partions and install alongside windows
[06:23] <A_J_> no wlan0 existensil
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  you have one hard DRIVE with several partions? or several hard drives?
[06:23] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: are you still in the chroot?
[06:23] <existensil> ah, then drivers aren't working... which is weird, that adapter is said to have good kernel support
[06:24] <aditya007> ok so and what about my F drive?? will its contents be gone?? or i can install on F: drive without losing what is on it?/
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  #1 lesson.. BACKUP anything you cant afford to loose.
[06:24] <aditya007> i have 1 hard drive 320 GB with  5 partitions of 60~ gb
[06:24] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, it is now 11:30PM - how long will it take
[06:24] <A_J_> looks like it work in the past though. i have a saved config for that wifi passowrd
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> its only a few commands ...
[06:24] <topper4125> aditya007, how much avail space do you ahve on your 60 Gig F Drive?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:   you can resize, or remove an existing partion and install linux into a logical partion.
[06:25] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: would you prefer to wait til tomorrow?
[06:25] <aditya007> 25 gb is available and i want to give 15-20 GB to UBUNTU
[06:25] <topper4125> During install you can specify that ;)
[06:26] <aditya007> for example if i have a movie on my F drive will it get deleted whn i install UBUNTU on it??
[06:26] <existensil> A_J_: maybe worth restarting, just in case?
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  why do you have so many tiny partitions
[06:26] <A_J_> tried didnt work
[06:26] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, tomorrow I am busy until 3PM
[06:26] <A_J_> says wireless is disabled
[06:26] <existensil> sorry man. not having much luck to day it sounds like.
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> thats no problem
[06:27] <A_J_> in the drop down
[06:27] <aditya007> umm..i was a noob back then :P, the computer guy made all these partitions...
[06:27] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: i should be around after that to continue
[06:27] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, is it not possible to just install 12.04.3 again on top of itself
[06:28] <aditya007> OK DR. Willis thank you for helping man and yout too taopper...Im installing with us stick and will take backup of F drive just in CASE TY :D
[06:28] <existensil> A_J_: try this: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:28] <aditya007> *topper
[06:28] <aditya007> *USB
[06:28] <existensil> see if you get wlan0 in your ifconfig afterwards, and if the menu changes
[06:28] <topper4125> good luck aditya007 (backups always a good idea;) )
[06:28] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: kind of .but you'll still need to reinstall all apps
[06:28] <aditya007> yeah thank you :)
[06:28] <A_J_> existensil operation not possible due to RF-kill
[06:29] <existensil> lol
[06:29] <existensil> whatever that means
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: it would only allow you keep some configs
[06:29] <existensil> A_J_: so it sounds like maybe it sees the adapter just fine but its refusing to bring up wlan for some reason
[06:30] <A_J_> i might have disabled it i think
[06:30] <A_J_> in the past
[06:30] <A_J_> idk how though
[06:30] <existensil> oh, wait, do you have it switched off on the adapter?
[06:30] <existensil> that's what rfkill is supposed to be fore
[06:30] <A_J_> not physically on ubuntu
[06:30] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: can you paste the output of thsi from the chroot: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[06:30] <existensil> like a physical switch on the adapter?
[06:31] <A_J_> no.. in ubuntu
[06:31] <topper4125> oh... Dr_Willis, wanted to thank you for finding that arcade distro, that arcade machine is coming along nicely now.
[06:31] <existensil> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill
[06:31] <existensil> i'm just pointing out that RFKill is often an actual hardware switch. you sure the adapter isn't turned off?
[06:32] <A_J_> there is just one button on the adapter a QSS button
[06:33] <existensil> try: rfkill unblock all
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  its working fine with a normal pc monitor? the docs i saw were a little vague on that. ;)
[06:34] <existensil> hehe. i'm reaching. i have no idea what the problem is, but these are random commands i'd be trying from google
[06:34] <existensil> lol
[06:34] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I don't follow chroo: dpkg ...
[06:34] <existensil> might need sudo in front of that last one
[06:34] <A_J_> it recongines the adapter. but in the network menu says wireless is disabled
[06:34] <topper4125> I have in on a 34" tv that has an SVGA port, worked like a champ.
[06:34] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: in the choot you were in in the terminal and you run the command:  dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[06:34] <existensil> A_J_: right, i'm trying to think of ways to enable it
[06:35] <A_J_> yea i got wlan0 is ifoconfig existensil
[06:35] <existensil> awesome
[06:35] <existensil> was it the rfkill command?
[06:35]  * A_J_ thinks so.
[06:37] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6345423/
[06:37] <tucemiux> anyone knows if it's possible to login to a windows 7 machine using openvpn?  rdp works but now I want to put a little more security and use openvpn
[06:37] <topper4125> installed the OS on a 60 gig SolidState drive, and home is on a 2TB... Its not real pretty at the moment to look at, but i'm going all in with the box images, banners, game histories etc.
[06:37] <A_J_> existensil it yet says wireless connection disable
[06:39] <cfhowlett> tucemiux, don't see why not.  the vpn doesn't care what the OS of the machine you're looking at is.
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: cool. i need to head to bed now. we can continue tomorrow, unless someone else can chime in and talk you thru getting to text mode ... the commands yopu need to run are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6345425/
[06:40] <tucemiux> cfhowlett, well the configuration on ubuntu might complain?  anyone ever tried it?
[06:40] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, Ok - thanks so much - get a good sleep!
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: nite mate
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> night guys
[06:49] <Ziber> I'm running a dualboot with windows 7 and ubuntu 13.04 and in the last few days I've noticed that, on boot, my laptop will take an inordinate amount of time to boot, mostly seemingly frozen at a blank screen with a cursor. What might some commons reasons for this be?
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  but eventually it does get past it and boots up?
[06:51] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: usually I don't have the patience and just force-reboot it (hold power button and then reboot)... it takes a few tries, but eventually it comes back.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> so some times it DOES boot up quickly?
[06:52] <topper4125> Ziber, don't know if its related or not, but my boot time has increased a bit since the last kernal update (running 12.04.3 in a single OS enviroment)... but not really delayed enough to be annoying, just noticeable.
[06:53] <Ziber> Dr_Willis: Yes, sometimes. Like 1 in 4 times.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> It might be worth while to give the pc a good cleaning/dusting and if you can reseat any cards/chips.. that sounds like a potential hardware/flakey connection going on.
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> or else the HD is having a really hard time getting up to speeds. (that would be weird)
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Dr_Willis, unless the HDD was failing
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> also try it with any usb devices Unplugged.
[06:54] <Ziber> I suppose I could look into the HD side of things.
[06:54] <Ziber> I've never had this problem before... and I typically keep the USB portion of my wireless mouse plugged in...
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> ive also seen slightly nicked hard drive cables. or flakey power supplies.
[06:55] <Ziber> Nothing's changed in my laptop, I've never done any HD modifications to it.
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> or it could be somthing on the MB is slowly dieing a sad death. I have a old PC thats  fails to boot up at times.. i let it sit and warm up.. and then it reboots fine. Im thinking the heat makes some cold-solder/shorts start working
[06:56] <Ziber> This laptop is only like... 2ish years old.. D:
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> be a ineresting test to see if you canmake a live cd that also repeates the same oddity
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> 'only'  :)
[06:57] <ripthejacker> Why do we have two different sites. askubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org? They both do the same?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> 2 yrs is a lifetime for some devices.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  they are not the same.. One is a Forum that has been around for years.. askubuntu uses stack exchange and has been around for just a few years.
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> 2 years? perhaps 3.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> and the format of how the sites  work  are totally differnt
[06:58] <ripthejacker> Dr_Willis: Ok so I cannot use askubuntu account to login to ubuntu forums?
[06:58] <Ziber> I'll have to try that in the morning.. it's nearly 3am here and time for bed. Just wanted to get some thoughts.
[06:58] <Ziber> Thanks though.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> ripthejacker:  never really noticed.  If they both use that SingleSignON  think you could use the same account
[06:59]  * topper4125 isn't registered on them :'(
[06:59] <ripthejacker> Both of my account are linked to the same email, yet they are different accounts
[07:11] <FireSlox> my ubuntu is running really slow (new install) and I recall there being a command I could run to reset unity? I think? it was something:something typed in dashboard I think
[07:12] <FireSlox> *:config or some such.
[07:12] <deper29> FireSlox: what do you mean, reset?
[07:12] <deper29> like, restart it? or reset settings to default?
[07:12] <FireSlox> I dont know really. I just recall another user in here once telling me to run this '*:*' command and it fixed this lag issue im having
[07:12] <FireSlox> and i recall it being related to resetting unity
[07:13] <FireSlox> i looked up resetting to default and followed that but it did not work
[07:13] <FireSlox> but also it was not the same thing that i was told before to run, that did end up fixing my lag issues
[07:16] <deper29> FireSlox: can you do unity --reset?
[07:23] <xangua> FireSlox: what ubuntu release¿ you mean the unity panel¿
[07:31] <mnathani> Whats the best way to check what applications run on boot, or as services and possibly add / remove them from that list
[07:32] <faysal> any game to play in ubuntu 13
[07:43] <automatik> my thumb drive is messed up, i try to format it with gparted but it tells me the drive is in read only mode. could someone help me?
[07:43] <ubuntu_user> existensil: thanks for your help. actually, i can't say for sure if it would help since i decided to reboot server in order to restart munin service and the server went down right after restart. but thanks
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> automatik, Is it unmounted?
[07:45] <automatik> yes
[07:45] <automatik> the data is there at least most of it is
[07:45] <automatik> the other half is completely corrupted
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> .automatik, This has been a issue for a couple of days here right? They do fail
[07:45] <automatik> made the mistake of writing to and reading from the drive at the same time
[07:46] <existensil> ubuntu_user: sorry you didn't have more luck man
[07:46] <automatik> wilee-nilee: sorry?
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> automatik, You have posted this before right?
[07:46] <ubuntu_user> now, if anybody still free to help on the channel, can you tell me please what my problem can be in this case? after the reboot the server can't start any of services (http://s22.postimg.org/uedgto8sx/4_QI6j.png )
[07:47] <automatik> um no
[07:47] <ubuntu_user> the support offers to reinstall os and erase all the data
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> automatik, Ah, thought you had, Reading and writing to how, standard data would not matter.
[07:47] <ubuntu_user> but i think it's more like ms windows-way - to reinstall os as often as with any problem
[07:48] <ubuntu_user> maybe there is something they can do? if they has the access to the VPS
[07:48] <automatik> just looking at a video and storing video onto the drive
[07:48] <automatik> just need to know how to take it out of read only mode
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> automatik, As far as I know not a problem, I would dd clear it make a new partiton table and see kif that works.
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> partition if*
[07:50] <automatik> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4M <- use this?
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> automatik, I have not had to use dd very often, and generally don't so another would need to confirm your command
[07:51] <automatik> wilee-nilee: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=4M <- like this?
[07:52] <automatik> ok
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> I don't think you need a sudo though, it looks right, but get it confirmed.
[07:53] <automatik> the drive is 32G do i need to replace 4M with 32G?
[07:53] <wilee-nilee> my mistake sudo is used, doh
[07:54] <automatik> the drive is 32G do i need to replace 4M with 32G?
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> automatik, http://askubuntu.com/questions/185815/how-do-i-clear-everything-data-viruses-from-a-thumbdrive  might help
[07:55] <wafflejock> automatik: no
[07:55] <wafflejock> the 4M is block size
[07:56] <Zaigham> yo
[07:56] <wafflejock> automatik: from what I've been told you just don't want it extremely small or else it will take forever, too high and it will exhaust RAM
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> automatik: definatly dont use a super high # for Bs
[07:56] <wafflejock> you may be able to go higher than 4M but I don't think 32GB is the way to go
[07:56] <aditya007> hey dr. willis?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  4mb is  all i ever use.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  Whats up?
[07:58] <automatik> ok so i used blkid
[07:58] <automatik> it tells me the drive name is sdd1
[07:59] <aditya007> i really F'ed up maan, i installed ubuntu alongside vista, after the installation was finished it asked me to reboot(13.10) so i rebooted then it directly booted into vista without asking to boot in ubuntu....the partition i created is still there, i cannot see it in vista (obviously cause its ext4) but help me how do i open ubuntu now?
[07:59] <automatik> i have the following in the terminal sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd1 bs=4M <- correct so far?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you deant to delete the partition?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you wannt to delete the partition?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> that will zero out the partion /dev/sdd1  correct.
[08:00] <automatik> i want to simply get the drive to read/write again if it means deleting or formatting the drive then yes
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  you may want to use /dev/sdd  not sdd1 if you want to erase the WHOLE drive
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> not just the one partition
[08:00] <automatik> ok
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> You will then need to repartition the drive with gparted
[08:00] <TOM_otakux> i see a news about the kde main developer will give up the ubuntu ?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> you are SURE its sdd?   dd will erase whatever you tell it to.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> TOM_otakux:  such is the nature of open source stuff.. people come. people go.
[08:01] <wafflejock> yeah dd is unforgiving
[08:01] <automatik> yes i entered 'blkid' and that was what it returned
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  as long as you are sure its sdd.
[08:01] <automatik> Dr_Willis: gparted is a no go, the drive is in read only mode
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  if its truely 'read only' then dd wont be able to write to it either.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> automatik:  so i guess try dd and see.
[08:02] <Lupus> Hello everyone
[08:02] <Lupus> I am need of Partitioning assistance
[08:02] <aditya007> hi
[08:02] <Jordan_U> automatik: There is no such thing as "read only mode" for a drive (with the exception of some SD cards). GParted will refuse to do anything to a drive with mounted partitions, but the solution to that is to just unmount those partitions.
[08:02] <automatik> http://paste.debian.net/63445/ <- have a look
[08:03] <aditya007> can any1 help me with this i really F'ed up maan, i installed ubuntu alongside vista, after the installation was finished it asked me to reboot(13.10) so i rebooted then it directly booted into vista without asking to boot in ubuntu....the partition i created is still there, i cannot see it in vista (obviously cause its ext4) but help me how do i open ubuntu now?
[08:03] <Lupus> Ah, others with the same  problem
[08:03] <automatik> Jordan_U: i did that as well
[08:03] <Jordan_U> aditya007: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> !fixboot | aditya007
[08:03] <wafflejock> aditya007: you need to fix your grub install
[08:03] <aditya007> no one hard drive with 5 partitions now 6 as i installed ubuntu
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | aditya007
[08:04] <Jordan_U> automatik: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and /etc/mtab.
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  normally it would want a swap partion also.. so 7 ;)
[08:04] <aditya007> so now i have 7 partitions??
[08:04] <Lupus> My problem - i am booting ubuntu from a  livestick, and gparted canntor esize the (virus ridden) unmounted Windows XP partition.
[08:04] <automatik> Jordan_U: what should i type into the terminal?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Lupus:  be sure the xp partion is not mounted./in use.   use the mount and umount command to verify its not mopunted
[08:05] <aditya007> and please tell me what is !fixboot and !fixgrub where do i put these commands>>>
[08:05] <theadmin> I have both openjdk-7-jre and openjdk-6-jre installed. The "java" command defaults to Java 6. How can I change that to point to Java 7?
[08:05] <Lupus> Rgr Dr_Willis, will try now
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  you dont use them.. you read what the bot says when it sees those triggers in the channelk
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | aditya007
[08:05] <Jordan_U> automatik: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /proc/mounts && pastebinit /etc/mtab
[08:05] <aditya007> oh so ubottu is the bot?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !bot
[08:06] <wafflejock> aditya007: exactly
[08:06] <aditya007> oh ok ill read that article TY
[08:06] <wafflejock> aditya007: you can talk to ubottu but it will let you know it is not smart
[08:06] <aditya007> haha lol ok
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> aditya007:  there is a 'boot-repair' live cd - that you can download that will be a handy tool to have in your pc-toolbox ;)
[08:07] <Lupus> How can i tell where my windows aprtition is to umount it?
[08:07] <aditya007> ok so after i do the boot repair thing ill be able to selecet what to boot??
[08:07] <Lupus> it isnt mounted according to Nautilus
[08:07] <wafflejock> Lupus: check fdisk -l
[08:07] <Lupus> ty
[08:07] <wafflejock> Lupus: should show all disks and partitions and figure out based on size
[08:08] <wafflejock> Lupus: np
[08:08] <theadmin> Lupus: Simply run "mount" with no arguments. It will list all mounted partitions and their mountpoints.
[08:08] <wafflejock> ah
[08:08] <wafflejock> better solution ^
[08:08] <wafflejock> theadmin: oh wait he wants to know before its mounted
[08:08] <Lupus> /dev/sda2 it is
[08:08] <Lupus> its unmounted
[08:08] <Lupus> still cannot resize in gParted
[08:09] <TOM_otakux_> i only use kde for my desktop.....
[08:09] <wafflejock> yeah sudo fdisk -l should show it
[08:09] <Lupus> already done. then used sudo umount /dev/sda2
[08:09] <Lupus> is unmounted
[08:09] <Lupus> gparted cannot resize windwos xp partition
[08:09] <theadmin> Lupus: Is the partition damaged by any chance? Happens often to NTFS partitions for example.
[08:09] <wafflejock> ah yeah
[08:09] <Lupus> possible causes - virus.
[08:09] <Lupus> was hit by virus earlier, hence ubuntu :P
[08:09] <wafflejock> Lupus: have you run chkdsk or fsck on it?
[08:10] <Lupus> cannot access file system
[08:10] <Lupus> -.-
[08:10] <theadmin> Lupus: Yeaah, that would do that... You can't really "fix" a NTFS partition from Linux, sadly, you do need a Windows CD. Windows PE, for example.
[08:10] <Lupus> as i said - a real [badword]  of a virus
[08:10] <wafflejock> right but chkdsk can do from safemode I think
[08:10] <Lupus> which we dont have. buggery. wafflejock - no safe mode available. see above comment on nature of virus :P
[08:11] <Lupus> ok, so, possible solutions. delete windows. wubi from livestick. buy new pc.
[08:11]  * Lupus sighs
[08:11] <wafflejock> Lupus: right as theadmin says Windows PE
[08:11] <Lupus> wafflejock - we have no cd's, came preloaded with xp years ago
[08:11] <wafflejock> ugg
[08:11] <wafflejock> haha sorry
[08:11] <Lupus> (oldoldoldodlodld laptop)
[08:11] <Lupus> :P
[08:12] <wafflejock> you can download Hiren's boot cd
[08:12] <Lupus> Ah.
[08:12] <Lupus> good point
[08:12] <wafflejock> or ERD
[08:12] <Lupus> think i still  have hiren around
[08:12] <wafflejock> emergency repair disk
[08:12] <theadmin> Lupus: Why not just install Ubuntu as the main OS? Would work nicely... Better than XP anyway.
[08:12] <wafflejock> wait still boot CD problem
[08:12] <wafflejock> doh
[08:12] <wafflejock> oh no you're good on that right
[08:12] <wafflejock> just no CDs
[08:12] <wafflejock> you have a CD-rom?
[08:12] <wafflejock> I hope
[08:12] <FloodBot1> wafflejock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:12] <wafflejock> sorry FloodBot
[08:13] <Lupus> theadmin - stubborn parents refuse to be converted to the SudoRace
[08:13] <Lupus> :P
[08:13] <wafflejock> yeah might be worth it to just get another HDD
[08:14] <wafflejock> Lupus: ah parents
[08:14] <theadmin> Lupus: Ah. Zorin? (not supported derivative, but it *looks* like WinXP)
[08:14] <theadmin> Lupus: Which is rather neat for new users.
[08:14] <Lupus> was thinking more making a poster for the study with this was x in windows, its now y in ubuntu
[08:14] <theadmin> Lupus: Would do too, honestly Ubuntu's easier to use than Windows in my opinion.
[08:15] <Lupus> they only need lbrewriter, calc, scan and firefox anyway. im a tinkerer, so i can mess later
[08:15] <Lupus> my current pc dual boots inwdows and ubuntu fine though
[08:15] <Lupus> anyway
[08:15] <Lupus> floodbot gonn ahte me in a sec
[08:15] <wafflejock> Lupus: I put Mint on my parents computer they're pretty happy with it
[08:15] <Lupus> and keyboard battery dying
[08:15] <Lupus> thanks people. probs back later with problems
[08:15] <wafflejock> lupfantomo: good luck
[08:16] <wafflejock> gone too quick
[08:16] <theadmin> Yeah they do that :D
[08:19] <wafflejock> time for a bit of KSP
[08:24] <Jordan_U> automatik: Are you still there?
[08:24] <automatik> yeah, it was taking a long time to install the software so then I restarted
[08:24] <automatik> it keeps stalling
[08:30] <automatik> Jordan_U: ok
[08:30] <automatik> i think it's finished
[08:31] <automatik> http://pastebin.com/VVc1wjZ6
[08:31] <automatik> http://pastebin.com/NS7JY72E
[08:35] <Jordan_U> automatik: That says that /dev/sdd1 is mounted to /media/FLASH\040DRIVE. Unmount it and GParted should allow you to repartition.
[08:35] <Jordan_U> automatik: sudo umount /dev/sdd1
[08:35] <automatik> ok so should i enter umount /dev/sdd1 or, oh ok
[08:37] <dr_willis_fan> dr willis?
[08:38] <dr_willis_fan> man i wanted to thank DR. willis :( he helped me so muchg
[08:40] <theadmin> dr_willis_fan: /msg memoserv send USERNAME MESSAGE will send a message to a user currently offline.
[08:40] <theadmin> dr_willis_fan: They'll see it when they come online
[08:40] <dr_willis_fan> dr willis!!??
[08:40] <theadmin> Well, maybe to them too.
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Huh>
[08:40] <theadmin> Oh there (s)he is :)
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> cant even go to the bathroom without this channel falling apart? ;)
[08:41] <dr_willis_fan> THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN THNX FOR the help :D :) :') this username is temporary BTW dont worry - aditya007
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> i cant even rember the original problem. ;)
[08:42]  * Dr_Willis guesses its eitehr grub. or login falires..
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> those are the 2 main issues of the week it seems. ;P
[08:42] <dr_willis_fan> no problem man you have to deAl with so many things...you are the real pillar of community :) bye
[08:42] <auronandace> !cookie | dr_willis_fan
[08:42] <auronandace> oops
[08:43] <auronandace> !cookie | Dr_Willis
[08:43] <dr_willis_fan> !cookie Dr_Willis
[08:43] <dr_willis_fan> ok bye guys have a nice day
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> i still dont rember what his problem was. ;)
[08:44]  * Dr_Willis scrolls up
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> I got 20$ on' remove xauthority
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> the return of the desktop makes people gleeful
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> giddy
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> I really have to figure out what .Xauthority actually does some time.
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> i know its somthing to do with X security/access to the display
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> when you find out tell us, hehe
[08:47] <Z3R0> hey guys im new to ubuntu, is this the right place to ask ultra noob queries??
[08:47] <theadmin> Z3R0: Go right ahead.
[08:48] <Z3R0> Umm so i have 3 partitions on my HDD i want them to show on my desktop as shortcuts, how can i do that?
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Z3R0:  you could just make a link from /media/ to your /home/yourusername/Desktop/media   but if you look in the file manager - the drives should allready be listed at the left side.
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> also i think theres a 'show drives' option somewhere to make the icons appear on the desktop.
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive gone the 'no icons on the desktop' route these days. ;) they are just clutter
[08:50] <ztane>  8386 root      20   0 19.7g 2.5g 382m S  99.0 66.0 247:40.15 packagekitd
[08:50] <ztane> ahem, kubuntu 1310
[08:50] <ztane> whatsit doin
[08:50] <Z3R0> yes, all the drives are listed on the right side on the launcher but it takes too much space...do you remember where is the "show drives" option?
[08:51] <Z3R0>  only want to Link one partitioned drive not all
[08:51] <Z3R0> @willis
[08:51] <Z3R0> oops
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Z3R0:  you could link /media/Yourusername to /home/yourusername/Desktop or some other directory if you wanted
[08:51] <Z3R0> yhow to reply to someone?
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> the Unity-tweak tool in the repos and the ubuntu-tweak tool (not in the repos) let you tweak most of these settings Z3R0
[08:52] <Z3R0> how do i "link" them?? sorry for the annoying questions
[08:53] <theadmin> Z3R0: Hey, that's what we're here for. Right click on any folder and choose "Make Link", then drag the link anywhere.
[08:53] <theadmin> Z3R0: Oh wait, that wouldn't work well for drives.
[08:53] <Z3R0> No no i want to link the whole drive
[08:54] <Z3R0> yeah
[08:54] <theadmin> Z3R0: Drives are folders in Linux :P
[08:54] <Z3R0>  want to make the drive, "computer" appear on my desktop
[08:54] <theadmin> Z3R0: Ah, the "Computer" thing...
[08:54] <Z3R0> Yeah the one with  bin dev boot etcc
[08:55] <theadmin> Z3R0: Ah, that's called "Filesystem" here.
[08:55] <theadmin> Z3R0: Okay, ln -s / ~/Desktop/Computer
[08:55] <Z3R0> oh, so can you make it appear on your desktop? or you have to go to it evry time?
[08:55] <Z3R0> in console?
[08:55] <theadmin> Z3R0: Yeah. Be careful not to delete it, as that will (I think) delete the actual folder the link goes to.
[08:56] <xll11> whats the -s flag
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> ln -s => make a soft link
[08:56] <theadmin> xll11: symbolic. I've no idea what the difference between symlinks and hardlinks is, but you can't hardlink folders.
[08:56] <Z3R0> oh, how do i soft link it?
[08:56] <theadmin> Z3R0: See above, the command I gave will do it
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> open file manager.. go to /media/whatever   click, hold, drag  to desktop - HOLD  CTRL and i think it will ask what to do.. when you drop on the desktop (it will show a ? mark) it might be drag/drop+hold alt...
[08:57] <theadmin> Ah, okay, yeah Dr_Willis that's a more userfriendly advice
[08:57] <wiiguy> what is this interface called ? > http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/sites/default/files/.imce/1/1204_ubuntu_klein.png
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> or just put the /media/whatever as a shortcut in your file manager bookmarks
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Im not on Unity/Gnome - so am not usiong Nautilus ;)
[08:57] <trijntje> wiiguy: unity
[08:58] <wiiguy> ty :)
[08:58] <Z3R0> Thank you guys and is it possible to put the min. max. and close buttons to the right side?
[08:59] <theadmin> Z3R0: In Unity, no. It breaks window maximization.
[08:59] <theadmin> Z3R0: As you see, the buttons merge with the top panel when you maximize a window, placing them on the right would give them no place there
[08:59] <theadmin> Z3R0: As that's where the notification area is
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> Z3R0:  its possible.. but i say just get used to them being on the left
[09:00] <Z3R0> aah
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> when you fullscreen an app they will jump around. ;)
[09:00] <theadmin> Yeah that's just annoying
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> the whole 'moveing the controlls for win-lets'  (if i rember the blog posting ages ago) never did pan out...
[09:01] <theadmin> Z3R0: Ubuntu has alternative desktops, some of them feel more windows-like, KDE for instance.
[09:01] <Z3R0> ll just get used to it...i am not going back to windows..except maybe emergency
[09:01] <Z3R0> but the one im using right now(default) looks so good :) is it gome or unity?
[09:01] <theadmin> Z3R0: But it actually makes more sense on the left. That's where all the other controls are aligned, so why on Earth would those 3 be on the right?
[09:02] <theadmin> Z3R0: Unity is the Ubuntu's default desktop.
[09:02] <auronandace> Z3R0: unity is the default for ubuntu
[09:02] <Z3R0> hehe i used to use windows before, installed ubuntu today :P
[09:02] <Z3R0> and last question, whats the best irc client for ubuntu
[09:02] <philip_> xchat
[09:03] <Z3R0> ok TY downloading it now
[09:03] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: the thing is though, every other window manager in existence has the controls on the right
[09:03] <theadmin> Z3R0: There's no real "best" out there. I use Quassel here.
[09:03] <gordonjcp> well, except maybe OSX, but that's an abberation
[09:03] <Z3R0> philip_: do i download the parent directory?
[09:03] <theadmin> Z3R0: Open the software center and search for IRC and you'll find tons
[09:04] <Z3R0> ok ill download it from there then
[09:04] <theadmin> Z3R0: With ratings and reviews, so you can tell for yourself :)
[09:04] <auronandace> !software | Z3R0
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> gordonjcp:  actually i seem to recall some others not that way. ;) i just cant rember what ones.
[09:05] <Z3R0> and my shift+i isnt working i cant type capital i theadmin Iwithout capslock is there any shortcut assigned to it by default??
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> Gnome has slimmed it down to just a close button.. ;)
[09:05] <theadmin> Z3R0: Now that's weird.
[09:05] <Z3R0> IIIIoops
[09:05] <Z3R0> worked now
[09:06] <theadmin> Z3R0: Check if you have the right keyboard layout selcted for your keyboard model in System Settings -> Keyboard layout.
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> heh heh.
[09:06] <theadmin> Z3R0: Oh, never mind
[09:06] <gordonjcp> Z3R0: turn your keyboard upside down and give it a tap
[09:07] <Z3R0> and where is the ubuntu equivalent of program files??
[09:07] <Z3R0> gordonjcp: lol
[09:08] <theadmin> Z3R0: Nowhere, to be entirely honest.
[09:08] <Z3R0> so where can i open xchat?
[09:08] <theadmin> Z3R0: Just search the Dash
[09:08] <Z3R0> i donwloaded it and unpinned it from laucher
[09:08] <Z3R0> ok
[09:09] <gordonjcp> Z3R0: tap the flag key and in the search box at the top start typing "xchat"
[09:09] <Dr_Willis> flag key? ;)
[09:09] <theadmin> Z3R0: In Linux files are grouped by their purpose, rather than by belonging to some app, so you'll find that binaries (similar to windows .exes) are installed to /usr/bin, configs to /etc, some other data might go to /var or /usr/share, and so on and so forth...
[09:09]  * Dr_Willis puts a skull and crossbones on his.
[09:09] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: the one with a flag on it, beside ctrl and alt
[09:10] <theadmin> gordonjcp: Is called "Super".
[09:10] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[09:10] <gordonjcp> theadmin: that doesn't really help to identify it, though
[09:10] <gordonjcp> it doesn't have "Super" on it, it has a flag on it
[09:11] <theadmin> gordonjcp: Well, not always. On Macs it has some weird butterfly.
[09:11] <Z3R0> it s a window IMO
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> cant say ive ever seen it called a flag.
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Dr_Willis: <shrug> It looks like a flag
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> its the MOD4 key! ;)
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> or was it mod3
[09:11] <gordonjcp> Z3R0: doesn't look much like a window, it's all squint
[09:11] <gordonjcp> you'd never get it to seal properly in the frame
[09:11] <Dr_Willis> lookls sort of like a weird X here  in a circle
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> thats why they changed the logo in win8 ;)
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> better sealing.
[09:12] <Z3R0> 3d flag :P
[09:12] <Z3R0> anyone using Xchat here?
[09:12] <theadmin> Some might find a penguin or even an Ubuntu logo on their keyboards, depends entirely on the manufacturer ;)
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> Z3R0:  lots of people use xchat. Its got some well done docs at its homepage/help menus also.
[09:13] <philip_> Z3R0: me
[09:13]  * Dr_Willis puts a superman logo on his.
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> mine is zippy the pin head
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> you sick little monkey! ;)
[09:15] <Z3R0> philip_:  how to connect to ubuntu channle i type /join #Ubuntu it gives error
[09:15] <theadmin> Z3R0: That's odd, it should work...
[09:15] <Dr_Willis> Z3R0:  you are connected to an irc server?
[09:15] <wildc4rd> am I able to move the launcher over to the Right hand side of a double monitor setup? (12.04 LTS)
[09:16] <Z3R0> it says this Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?  Not connected. Try /server <host> [<port>]
[09:16] <philip_> Z3R0: try #
[09:16] <philip_> ubuntu
[09:16] <Z3R0> yeah tried
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> wildc4rd:  the unity left side launcher can go on the left side of a 2nd monitor..
[09:16] <Z3R0> no im using mozilla to IRC chat via freenode.net
[09:16] <Dr_Willis> wildc4rd:  you cant move it to the top or bottom or right side
[09:16] <theadmin> Z3R0: Ah. /server irc.freenode.net then
[09:16] <Z3R0> 1 min
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Zippy is my hero, I just go to laundry and watch the dryers go round and round. ;)
[09:17] <ZeR0> Thank you!! im in
[09:18] <Guest98708> hello?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> it would be a good idea to read the 'xchat' docs at its homepage/help menu. ;)
[09:18] <Guest98708> im zer0
[09:19] <Guest98708> but it said you failedd to identify in time nickname zer0
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> we saw your nick change Guest98708
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> do /nick Yournick
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> then /msg nickserv identify whateveryourpassword    IN THE SERVER window.. not the Channel window
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> in case you mess it up ;)
[09:20] <Z3R0> testing
[09:20] <Z3R0> now?
[09:20] <paresh> hello
[09:20] <Z3R0> hi
[09:21] <nexussage02> yo
[09:21] <Z3R0> are you guys not talking/
[09:21] <Z3R0> or
[09:22] <paresh> testing
[09:22] <gordonjcp> Z3R0: yes, the channel has gone a bit quiet
[09:23] <Z3R0> oh man i thought xchat problem
[09:23] <paresh> bye
[09:24] <wilee-nilee> Z3R0, What you wanna talk about volcanoes, rocks.....the beaver.......;)
[09:24] <Z3R0> :| waht does that mean?
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> Z3R0, I was copying a few lines from the big bang series, just a joke.
[09:25] <Z3R0> ooh, sorry im not a fan
[09:25] <user> clefebvre, are u there clem ??
[09:26] <Z3R0> does xchat only show messages addressed to you>
[09:26] <theadmin> Z3R0: No, I don't think so
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> it would be a good idea to read the 'xchat' docs at its homepage/help menu. ;)  .......
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[09:26] <Z3R0> ok i will
[09:28] <Z3R0> how do i shutdown ubuntu??
[09:29] <Z3R0> haha just trolling ;)
[09:32] <francesco__> irc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy
[09:34] <cold> ~~
[09:38] <francesco__> irc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy
[09:39] <francesco__> irc://irc.openjoke.org/enjoy
[09:39] <xll11> what's there?
[09:40] <francesco__> irc://irc.openjoke.org/0DayZ
[09:40] <bekks> francesco__: Please stop advertising
[09:42] <francesco__> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[09:42] <francesco__> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[09:42] <bekks> !it | francesco__
[09:45] <barkofink> hi no sound in xubuntu
[09:45] <barkofink> sound icon does not work
[09:49] <nibbler> hi. i'm copying files over from my ubuntu to my xbian (rpi). using scp or scp -c blowfish, the rpi iowait goes up to 50% and throughput is at 500kBps. using rsync iowait is at 0, and throughput is at 2500kBps. how comes?
[09:50] <bekks> nibbler: ssh uses encryption.
[09:51] <Z3R0> guys please help me with youtube
[09:52] <nibbler> bekks: calling rsync uses ssh, thous encryption, too?
[09:52] <nibbler> bekks: and it also does not explain the difference in iowait
[09:52] <bekks> Z3R0: First, please describe your problem.
[09:52] <ecsi> Hi guys!
[09:52] <bekks> nibbler: you could strace both variants.
[09:52] <ecsi> Pls help me
[09:52] <ecsi> http://kepfeltoltes.hu/131102/proxy_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png
[09:52] <FloodBot1> ecsi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:52] <ecsi> How to in ubuntu system?
[09:53] <nibbler> bekks: good point, i'll try
[09:53] <bekks> ecsi: Configure a VPN connection, then use a ssh connection.
[09:57] <max_> test?
[09:57] <wilee-nilee> Z3R0, You missing flash?
[09:59] <wilee-nilee> Z3R0, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras     gotta go time to crash
[09:59] <Cuppa_coffee> max, works
[10:03] <tjad> Please sign the following petition ... save our(South African) education... http://t.co/pPkbqEl7dl .. if you are not a developer and need a reason, just say "It would be in the best interest of the students to use Java over delphi"
[10:04] <tjad> Seriously .. I know this is a linux channel .. but we need to set our department of education right, so i'm calling out to everyone I can
[10:04] <tjad> Delphi is windows only ;-) if it makes it any better :)
[10:04] <gordonjcp> tjad: possibly #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <ljunggren_> was just about to suggest this
[10:05] <tjad> right
[10:05] <tjad> Sorry thanks
[10:05] <Ycarene> What can I use to play wma9dmo files?
[10:06] <Z3R0> hey guys how to open apt files??
[10:06] <bekks> Z3R0: There are no apt files.
[10:06] <bekks> Z3R0: Which files do you mean, excatly?
[10:06] <Z3R0> 1 min
[10:07] <Z3R0> http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/  THIS
[10:07] <bekks> Z3R0: Thats a website - and?
[10:07] <bekks> Z3R0: what are you trying to do?
[10:07] <Z3R0> im trying to download flash
[10:07] <Z3R0> because youtube wont work
[10:07] <bekks> !flash | Z3R0
[10:08] <Z3R0> so ill be ablee to play youtube
[10:08] <Z3R0> ?
[10:08] <bekks> Z3R0: Please read the link given by ubottu
[10:08] <Z3R0> yeah reading
[10:08] <Z3R0> ty
[10:08] <Ycarene> will pulling in ubuntu-restricted-extras work?
[10:08] <Z3R0> !flash | bekks
[10:09] <Z3R0> hue hue hue
[10:09] <bekks> Z3R0: I have a working flash - you dont. :>
[10:09] <bekks> Ycarene: Will it work for what?
[10:09] <Ycarene> bekks - playing files in the wma9dmo format?
[10:09] <Z3R0> i was just messing with you while i download the restricted thingy from the link you gave :P :v
[10:10] <bekks> Ycarene: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127608/cant-play-wma-files-12-04
[10:10] <giwrgaras> hi ive got a 13.04 ubuntu freshly installed, as a second operating system to my windows 8. i like better to work in ubuntu but i want to use my office and the visual studio
[10:10] <giwrgaras> is there any way to run them from ubuntu?
[10:10] <Z3R0> hey @ bekks
[10:10] <bekks> giwrgaras: Create a virtual machine inside ubuntu.
[10:11] <giwrgaras> is it quick enough? ive got 4gigs of ram
[10:11] <Z3R0> @bekks i have downloaded the restricted formats thru cconsole but it is wshowing a user agreement after the download with OK button i cant clik the OK button (in console)
[10:12] <cfhowlett> Z3R0, space bar will click
[10:12] <giwrgaras> from virtual machines what do you reccomend, Xen or virtual boX
[10:12] <gillo> ciao
[10:12] <Z3R0> ooh damn it i exited
[10:12] <bekks> giwrgaras: virtualbox. Use the latest official version 4.3.2
[10:13] <giwrgaras> and then i can connect to my alternative operating system and just work from it inside of ubuntu?
[10:14] <Z3R0> @bekks when i install the restricted packages itsas saying the package is broken
[10:14] <bekks> giwrgaras: No. You will have to install a "new" OS inside the virtual machine.
[10:14] <high_fiver> giwrgaras, Xen run off bare metal, VirtualBox does't
[10:14] <bekks> Z3R0: Which restricted package?
[10:14] <Z3R0> *the package system is broken
[10:14] <bekks> !details | Z3R0
[10:15] <Z3R0> ubuntu resctricted extras
[10:15] <Z3R0> oh sorry i was continuing the earlier question ubot
[10:15] <giwrgaras> ah so thats a problem cause ive got only 30gigs of space allocated to ubuntu
[10:15] <bekks> Z3R0: Why do you install that?
[10:15] <ljunggren> im sorry but what is the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates? is -updates less stable or is it just a newer versoin?
[10:15] <Z3R0> because i want to play youtube
[10:15] <giwrgaras> theres no way to log in to my other os inside of ubuntu and work there?
[10:16] <Z3R0> * i want to play youtube videos
[10:16] <bekks> ljunggren: -updates will be updated during the lifetime of your release.
[10:16] <Z3R0> please help me
[10:16] <Z3R0> please help me
[10:16] <bekks> Z3R0: Then read the link given and do what it tells you. It does not tell you to install "ubuntu restirected extras".
[10:16] <ljunggren> bekks, oh, then thanks
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !patience|Z3R0,
[10:17] <ljunggren> lets do it
[10:18] <Z3R0> oh sorry bekks
[10:18] <ljunggren> i just installed chromium
[10:18] <ljunggren> its so much more responsive on my system.. i always tought firefox to be more lightweight thou
[10:19] <Z3R0> @bekk it says to install it " Search for 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' "
[10:20] <bekks> Z3R0: What is "it"?
[10:20] <bekks> !details | Z3R0
[10:20] <Z3R0> the link you gave to me
[10:21] <Z3R0> @bekk you said visit this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash    i am following the instructions there and it says to install resctricted package
[10:21] <bekks> Z3R0: Do you have 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu?
[10:21] <Z3R0> 32 bit
[10:22] <Z3R0> @bekks after i do this  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:22] <Z3R0> @bekks it says
[10:22] <Z3R0> @bekks
[10:22] <Z3R0> @bekks E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:22] <Z3R0> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:23] <bekks> Z3R0: Then use sudo.
[10:23] <bekks> Z3R0: And please dont use "@". This isnt quakenet.
[10:23] <Z3R0> ??
[10:23] <Z3R0> i tohught u tped in red with @
[10:23] <Z3R0> *typed
[10:24] <bekks> Z3R0: just use my name, the @ is irrelevant.
[10:24] <Ycarene> The red is client side
[10:24] <Ycarene> It's the irc client highligting your name for you.
[10:24] <Z3R0> ok i didnt realize
[10:29] <Z3R0> bekks, can you tell me how you got youtube vids running on your PC wehn you installed ubuntu?
[10:30] <bekks> Z3R0: I am using google chrome, and not the outdated native flash.
[10:31] <Z3R0> bekks,  please tell how to login as sudop please
[10:31] <Z3R0> *sudo
[10:31] <bekks> You cannot login as sudo. You login as user, then use sudo.
[10:31] <bekks> !sudo | Z3R0
[10:31] <Z3R0> sorry i meant root
[10:32] <Z3R0> sorry imeant rot
[10:32] <bekks> !root | Z3R0
[10:32] <Z3R0> *i meant root
[10:32] <Lupus> Hello again
[10:32] <roop> hello every one
[10:32] <roop> im new to ubuntu
[10:32] <roop> my sys got win 8 when i brought
[10:32] <Z3R0> "Login with "root" user on your Ubuntu 12.04"  i want to do this
[10:32] <roop> i want to install win 8
[10:33] <roop> in it with win 8
[10:33] <bekks> Z3R0: You dont want to log in as root.
[10:33] <bekks> Z3R0: You want to read:
[10:33] <roop> i downloaded ubuntu 13 file
[10:33] <bekks> !root | Z3R0
[10:33] <Lupus> is there any way i can check if i have wifi capabillities on this laptop?
[10:33] <roop> how to install ??
[10:33] <Z3R0> roop burn it on a CD and install :)]
[10:33] <Lupus> roop - we talk about ubuntu here, not win8.
[10:33] <Lupus> but yes. how to check wifi capabilities of laptop?
[10:33] <Lupus> it had wifi on windows. deleted windows for salamander.
[10:34] <Lupus> now no wifi, but ehternet
[10:34] <Lupus> *ethernet
[10:34] <Z3R0> you want to check if you have wifi?? most probably yes, do a google search with ur model
[10:34] <Lupus> no, i mean
[10:34] <roop> cant i install it without a cd/pen drive ??
[10:34] <Z3R0> !root
[10:34] <bekks> Z3R0: Thats nonsense. :)
[10:34] <Z3R0> yes roop with WUBI
[10:34] <Lupus> i want to check if i have drivers and such
[10:35] <bekks> Z3R0: wubi isnt available with ubuntu 13.04 anymore.
[10:35] <roop> i extracted and clicked wubi
[10:35] <cfhowlett> Z3R0, wubi is for TESTING ubuntu, not for long-term installation.
[10:35] <Lupus> and if i have a wifi card that ubuntu recognises - if so why can i not connect to wifi in any way
[10:35] <Z3R0> yes get drivers from your company site
[10:35] <bekks> roop: Dont listen to him.
[10:35] <roop> but i'm not able to install :(
[10:35] <Z3R0> OOH
[10:35] <giwrgaras> is there a google lens for ubuntu/
[10:35] <Lupus> Z3R0 - i want to see if i have them in here already.
[10:35] <bekks> roop: Because of what? Burn the iso to a cd, boot it, install it.
[10:35] <Z3R0> but i installed 13.04 with wubi :|
[10:35] <bekks> Lupus: lspci -k; lsusb; lsmod
[10:35] <Lupus> ty
[10:36] <roop> ok ok
[10:36] <roop> ty
[10:36] <bekks> Z3R0: Its for testing puposes, not for longterm installations.
[10:36] <Z3R0> bekks,  but it installs on your system and then it didtn give me any problems in the long term
[10:37] <bekks> Z3R0: It is not designed for more than testing. Everything else is your choice, but do not recommend it to others please.
[10:37] <Z3R0> ok i wont
[10:37] <Z3R0> bekks,  but please help me with this flash problem
[10:38] <bekks> Z3R0: I already did. I told you to read the link from ubottu, and I told you how I am using flash.
[10:38] <Lupus> shit. still nothing
[10:39] <Z3R0> bekks,  i did read the link it said to install restricted formats for ubuntu which give me errors like this one :'( -E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:39] <Z3R0> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:39] <bekks> Lupus: Then pastebin the following outputs please: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lspci -k; lsusb; lsmod" - into a pastebin, and give us the URL.
[10:39] <bekks> Z3R0: Use sudo.
[10:39] <bekks> !sudo | Z3R0
[10:39] <Lupus> rgr bekks
[10:39] <Z3R0> bekks, i used the command-  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[10:39] <Z3R0>  which already has sudo in it, is tht what you mean?]
[10:40] <Lupus> to get flash - look in software centre? i got it fine
[10:40] <bekks> Z3R0: Do you have to sooftware center open?
[10:40] <Z3R0> nope
[10:40] <Nitin144> hey any software like idm ?
[10:40] <bekks> Nitin144: Whatever "idm" might be.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> Z3R0, here's the fix    http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !idm
[10:41] <cfhowlett> never heard of it
[10:41] <Nitin144> ya internet download manager
[10:41] <Z3R0> cfhowlett, bekks  im getting this when i try to install from soft. cente Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[10:41] <Z3R0> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[10:41] <ljunggren> hey i just installed fglrx-updates but if i check "graphics" in "details" menu it says VESA: standard" is something wrong?
[10:41] <bekks> Z3R0: Read the link to fix that problem.
[10:41] <cfhowlett> Z3R0, did you even read the link I sent?
[10:42] <Nitin144> not yet
[10:42] <Z3R0> no i mreading it now
[10:42]  * cfhowlett ... grips cluebat ...
[10:42] <bekks> Nitin144: You dont have to read the links intended for Z3R0 ;)
[10:42] <Nitin144> ok
[10:42] <Z3R0> lol
[10:43] <Nitin144> 0
[10:44] <Lupus> bekks - confirm command, lsmod" or lsmod   ?
[10:44] <bekks> Lupus: lsmod
[10:44] <Lupus> ty
[10:44] <ljunggren> how can i see what driver for gpu is in use right now?
[10:45] <Z3R0> im getting new software cant be installed because there is a problewm with a software already installed , then i clicked repair
[10:45] <Z3R0> how to exit dpkg??
[10:45] <bekks> Z3R0: dpkg has no prompt, so you cannot exit it. What are you doing?
[10:45] <Nitin144> why to exit
[10:45] <Nitin144> ?
[10:45] <Nitin144> just shut down
[10:46] <Lupus> bekks - AS REQUESTED; paste.ubuntu.com/6346226/
[10:46] <Z3R0> when i open the ubuntu soft. centre
[10:46] <bekks> Nitin144: Thats nonsense.
[10:46] <Z3R0> i get this
[10:46] <bekks> Z3R0: Forget the software center.
[10:46] <Z3R0> new software cant be installed because there is a problewm with a software already installed , then i clicked repai
[10:46] <Z3R0> o then?
[10:46] <Z3R0> *ok then how?
[10:46] <Nitin144> u know NOTHING
[10:46] <bekks> Z3R0: use a terminal and sudo apt-get ...
[10:46] <Z3R0> yes i installed ubuntu today :'(
[10:46] <Nitin144> welcome moonk
[10:46] <Z3R0> sudo apt-get flash?
[10:46] <Nitin144> yaa
[10:47] <Z3R0> invalid operation flash
[10:47] <bekks> Z3R0: No. Read the links given.
[10:47] <Z3R0> can you post the link again its lost :(
[10:47] <Nitin144> use USC
[10:47] <bekks> Nitin144: Again, incorrect.
[10:47] <bekks> !flash | Z3R0
[10:47] <bekks> !sudo | Z3R0
[10:47] <Z3R0> sudo apt-get USC??
[10:47] <Lupus> Z3R0 - my version is called flashplugin-installer 11.2.202.310ubuntu1
[10:48] <Lupus> bekks = pastebin above
[10:48] <bekks> Lupus: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 - thats your wifi.
[10:48] <Lupus> Right
[10:48] <Lupus> then why do i have no connection options inthe drop down menu at top of screen
[10:48] <Lupus> at all
[10:48] <Lupus> only ethernet
[10:48] <bekks> !wifi | Lupus
[10:48] <Lupus> ty bekks
[10:49] <Nitin144> HEY EVERYONE TEll ur internet speed
[10:49] <bekks> !ot | Nitin144
[10:49] <Mantissa> #thunderbird
[10:49] <Nitin144> ohh
[10:49] <Nitin144>  k
[10:49] <Z3R0> bekks, ithe link  gave about flash says to instal ubuntu restricted packages from software centre
[10:50] <bekks> Z3R0: I know it. Just do it.
[10:50] <Z3R0> but when i open software centre
[10:50] <bekks> Z3R0: Forget the software center.
[10:50] <bekks> Z3R0: We have been going through that just a minute ago.
[10:50] <Nitin144> any software to download online streaming videos ?
[10:50] <Z3R0> you said just do it and are saying forget the soft. center
[10:51] <Nitin144> any software to download online streaming videos ?
[10:51] <bekks> Z3R0: I told you the alter^native, too.
[10:51] <Z3R0> bekks, wait ill tell the problem short and simple k?
[10:51] <bekks> Z3R0: No. You already did three times.
[10:52] <RaginHam> morning all.
[10:52] <RaginHam> need a bit of help... hopefully someone can figure out this conundrum I've got
[10:53] <RaginHam> trying to lock the CD tray from ejecting. Beginning to think it might not be possible.
[10:53] <Z3R0> bekks, i want to get flash to play youtube, i go to software centre it says new soft. cant be installed coz thrs a prob. with exisating soft. K?? so i click repair, in progress bar it says repairing n says waitong for dpkg to exit...so i open terminal and type in the code for flash, i get the long eror i sated b4, so u tell use sudo, i already am using sudo then too i type it again with sudo...it gives the same error now what please tell
[10:53] <Lupus> RaginHam - cut the wires
[10:53] <Nitin144> will anyone tell? any app to download online streaming videos?
[10:53] <RaginHam> tried the "man eject -o" trick... also "ctcrl --lockdoor"
[10:53] <Lupus> Dammit. Still no luck with the wifi
[10:54] <RaginHam> hahaha
[10:54] <RaginHam> Lupus: what card?
[10:54] <Lupus> nitin - such apps are usually illegal. Keep it clean in here, please/
[10:54] <Lupus> RaginHam - not sure. paste.ubuntu.com/6346226
[10:54] <Lupus> i have the card
[10:54] <Lupus> windows xp ran wifi
[10:54] <Nitin144> what card?
[10:54] <bekks> Z3R0: I am out of your problem. You are asking the same questions on and on again, ignoring everything people tell you to solve your problem, and instead starting over again. Good luck for the future.
[10:54] <Nitin144> cid card?
[10:54] <Lupus> virus hit, moved to raging, now no wifi
[10:55] <Nitin144> then go off
[10:55] <Z3R0> bekks, what i am tryin to say is i do ur suggested methods im getting the same error still :'(
[10:55] <bekks> Z3R0: Because you are ignoring what people tell you.
[10:56] <Nitin144> u both are mad
[10:56] <Lupus> Z3RO - have you tried visiting adobe.com and looking there?
[10:56] <Lupus> or, yknow
[10:56] <Lupus> justfuckinggoogleit.com
[10:56] <Z3R0> bekks man I DID what you said i didnt ignore it..i still get the same prob man im not ignoring shit
[10:56] <Nitin144> leave it yaar
[10:57] <Z3R0> BC
[10:57] <Nitin144> zero u all need is just a plugin
[10:57] <RaginHam> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-bcm43xx
[10:57] <RaginHam> check that
[10:58] <RaginHam> P.s. You have the BCM4311 card
[10:58] <Nitin144> do anyone here download videos?
[10:59] <Z3R0> nitin see, i want flash plugin so i ask questions here, people answer so i visit the links and try their solutions but the same prob still exists, so i ask again and they tell me im ignorant and asking same thing again??
[11:00] <Z3R0> bekks, man please help :'(
[11:00] <RaginHam> nitin: what type of videos? what format? source?
[11:00] <Z3R0> *sigh* no helpers here :'(
[11:01] <Nitin144> any video youtube or other websites like facebook
[11:01] <RaginHam> so flash
[11:01] <Nitin144> no link
[11:01] <gordonjcp> Nitin144: you could try googling for something like "download youtube video on linux"
[11:01] <RaginHam> running firefox?
[11:02] <Nitin144> isn't something like IDM?
[11:02] <RaginHam> iceweasel? chromium?
[11:02] <Nitin144> chromium too
[11:02] <RaginHam> look at the extensions/add-ons
[11:02] <RaginHam> normally a quick addon will make that possible
[11:02] <Nitin144> which one?
[11:03] <RaginHam> youtube center, perhaps?
[11:03] <Nitin144> and what for other web sites?
[11:03] <Nitin144> there are other too
[11:04] <otak> also package youtube-dl, get the new version from their site
[11:05] <RaginHam> try Download Flash and Video 1.42
[11:05] <RaginHam> best I got.
[11:05] <RaginHam> I don't actually download flash... but that seems to serve your purpose
[11:05] <Z3R0> @ NITIN AND @ BEKKS MY BAD A SIMPLE RESTART FIXED THE ISSUES :D
[11:07] <RaginHam> thus, why we always suggest a restart first. :)
[11:12] <Ycarene> where can I get win64codecs now that medibuntu is gone?
[11:14] <giwrgaras> does it worth the effort to go from 13.04 to 13.10?
[11:14] <giwrgaras> i browse for changes but i see its just the same thing
[11:16] <prodigel> hi all. ubuntu 13.10 questions here or in #ubuntu+1?
[11:16] <gordonjcp> prodigel: 13.10 is current
[11:16] <sifocools> hello :)
[11:17] <sifocools> any port ubuntu torch to xperia?
[11:17] <veikka> hello
[11:18] <uuser100> This is my first IRC entry. I hope I do everything right. I have Ubuntu 12.10. and an echo problem with Jitsi. I read on the internet that an upgrade of PulseAudio might solve the problem. Is it advisable to do that? My current version of Pulseaudio is 2.1.
[11:19] <veikka> what´s up you guys
[11:22] <zergut> sometimes,i got error it says that i have ubuntu 3.3 (not exactly) but it's not true
[11:22] <zergut> when grub starts
[11:23] <sifocools> i have problem with hdmi sound in ubuntu 13.04
[11:23] <RaginHam> 3.3?
[11:23] <sifocools> hdmi sound not working
[11:23] <RaginHam> sifo: what distro?
[11:23] <zergut> i cant remember exact version
[11:23] <prodigel> Using ubuntu 13.10/awesome WM, since upgrading I have this sound card problem when booting up: no sound available, I need to fire gnome-control-center and select "speakers - built in Audio" from the output list (it always defaults to hdmi/display port -built-in audio". Also, using pacmd to list sinks from cli before I fire gnome-control-center, the speakers sink is missing.
[11:23] <zergut> but it's about it
[11:23] <RaginHam> ubuntu 13.04 ? and what card?
[11:24] <sifocools> linux mint :)
[11:24] <zergut> The problem is recurrent and not constant
[11:25] <zergut> iI haven't yet figured out
[11:25] <sifocools> nvidia gt 440
[11:26] <RaginHam> do you know how to use terminal ?
[11:26] <zergut> why it's appears
[11:26] <sifocools> i am using nvidia driver
[11:26] <zergut> i suspect hard drive
[11:26] <RaginHam> go to terminal, type this: sudo add-apt-repository https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/alsa-daily/+packages
[11:27] <sifocools> on booard sound work fine but nvidia hdmi sound does not work
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> jumping to the alsa-daily builds.. may be a bit extreme..  for what may be simple setting issue
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> sifocools:  you have tried the pavucontrol       tool yet?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[11:28] <sifocools> ok i will try it :) thanks
[11:28] <Con7e1> Hello
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> howdy
[11:29] <Con7e1> I need a help.
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> Give the channel details of the problem
[11:30] <sifocools> volume applet not working either
[11:30] <Con7e1> At every startup I have to run a terminal command to force my network card to work.
[11:30] <sifocools> nvidia hdmi sound detectec in applet but not working
[11:30] <Con7e1> How can I execute the command automaticly at startup?
[11:31] <Con7e1> I already tried rc.local
[11:31] <POVaddct> Con7e1: rc.local should work
[11:31] <Con7e1> and putting it in the startup applicazion
[11:31] <Con7e1> *applications
[11:31] <faugusztin> Con7e1: that covers your options
[11:31] <sifocools> i will try ubuntu 13.08 or mint :)
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Con7e1:  what exactly did you put in rc.local?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> sifocools:  there is no 13.08 ubuntu
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[11:31] <Con7e1> "ethtool -s eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg on"
[11:32] <Con7e1> w/ the quotes
[11:32] <Con7e1> without the quotes
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Con7e1:  that command works after you login?
[11:32] <POVaddct> Con7e1: try the full path to ethtool
[11:32] <faugusztin> Con7e1: sounds to me it should be in post network  scripts
[11:33] <Con7e1> Yeah, if I do it in the terminal it works
[11:33] <faugusztin> Con7e1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/268200/how-to-automate-ethtool
[11:33] <POVaddct> faugusztin: are they executed if networkmanager manages eth0?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> if it work after you login. You may just need to do a  'sleep 120'  (or some other # of seconds) befor the command. to let networking get all setup
[11:33] <faugusztin> POVaddct: not sure, in that case there are similar things for networkmanager
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> but faugusztin  seems to have a better hit :)
[11:33] <ggherdov> hi all. Link to ubuntu doc explaining commands to do upgrade LTS to LTS, from 11.04 to 12.04 ? thank you
[11:34] <POVaddct> faugusztin: that's why i don't like network manager. everything goes automatic, and you lose control.
[11:34] <ggherdov> damn 11.04 is not LTS...
[11:34]  * ggherdov prepared to spend the day hopping from release to release, dammit
[11:34] <Con7e1> faugusztin: thank you for the link, I will try :)
[11:34] <thnee> I updated to 13.10, now none of my disks are mounted when I reboot.. wtf
[11:34] <faugusztin> Con7e1: do you use networkmanager ?
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> thnee:  check your fstab?  give us details as to what disks you mean
[11:35] <faugusztin> Con7e1: in case of NetworkManager you should try to put that command in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d
[11:35] <v0lZy> hi
[11:35] <thnee> Dr_Willis: fstab is empty except / partition.. I have one disk with a ntfs on it and another with like 4 different partitinos, some ntfs, some ext3
[11:36] <Con7e1> faugusztin: I am on elementary os luna, which is Ubuntu 12.04
[11:36] <yeehi> What is the application that Ubuntu has built in that is similar to vnc? is it available in 12.04 as well as 13.10?
[11:36] <Con7e1> faugusztin: I'll try, thank you again
[11:36] <thnee> Dr_Willis: Is fstab where ubuntu normally puts all it's auto detected drives? I though that was some gnome-find-all-disks-automagically-daemon?
[11:36] <faugusztin> Con7e1: you still know what are you using - networkmanager or sysconfig for network :)... The docs are from Arch, but the point stands https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NetworkManager#Network_services_with_NetworkManager_dispatcher
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> thnee:  depends on how you want to mount them. You can put them in fstab and they will mount at BOOTUP befor the user logs in
[11:37] <thnee> Dr_Willis: I know that... thats not what I asked
[11:37] <faugusztin> Con7e1: that is a link for the Network manager case, you will create a script like the one for OpenNTPD, and you will issue your ethtool commands for up
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> thnee:  othere wise the desktop normally mounts them on the fly using the gvfs stuff
[11:37] <v0lZy> I'm looking for some help in recovering grub... I had a machine that was dualbooting windows and ubuntu 10.04 LTS, now what I did was i used a live cd and the dd command to store the root partition of the ubuntu install (it was in an extended logical partition, which then held 2 partitions, first was root other was swap and i didn tcopy swap cause ill use a swapfile)
[11:38] <Con7e1> faugusztin: Thank you man, really. It's been 3 days with this problem lol
[11:38] <v0lZy> Now I took the dd image of Ubuntu's root partition and mounted it as an iso in a virtualmachine.. then copied all the files to /dev/sda2 and made /dev/sda2 bootable
[11:38] <uuser100> Or does it make more sense to install webrtc and not to upgrade Pulseaudio?
[11:39] <v0lZy> What I want to do next, is boot ubuntu from /dev/sda2 ... but obviously, I have to fix grub
[11:39] <v0lZy> Can anyone help me fix grub2 so that it will boot from /dev/sda2
[11:39] <bekks> !grub2 | v0lZy
[11:40] <v0lZy> bekks: yeah im reading that but my scnerio is a bit specific...
[11:41] <Con7e1> v0lZy: can't you simply edid the grub conf file with the partition u want to boot?
[11:41] <v0lZy> Con7e1: Grub is not installed on the virtual machine at all
[11:41] <bekks> v0lZy: Then install it...
[11:41] <v0lZy> Con7e1: I first need to install just grub
[11:42] <v0lZy> bekks: yeah, but how, I cant boot the machine to apt-get it
[11:42] <v0lZy> I have an archlinux iso here and i can chroot to the mounted partition where i have ubuntu's root
[11:42] <bekks> v0lZy: Thats why you shoudl read the links on how to repair grub ;)
[11:42] <v0lZy> but after chrooting, i cant really run grub-install ... it says something about boot not being readable et.c
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> you need to set things up befor you chroot.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> There is a boot-repair/ubuntu live cd. that has the boot-repair tool that may be a good idea to use. Instead of an arch live cd.
[11:43] <b1> teating 123
[11:43] <v0lZy> it says error can not find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev/ mounted?)
[11:43] <bekks> !chroot | v0lZy
[11:44] <sifocools> anyone heard about ufi/safeboot?
[11:44] <sifocools> can we isntall ubuntu in ufi notebook enable?
[11:44] <bekks> sifocools: Yes.
[11:44] <v0lZy> bekks: yeah i know that... its just that i was hoping to use grub-install in the ubuntu system..
[11:45] <bekks> v0lZy: Then chroot, and before setup the chroot accordingly.
[11:45] <v0lZy> bekks: as in... symlink the /dev to /mnt/dev ?
[11:45] <adamkex> If one creates a live Ubuntu USB will changes be saved on it once I use it and download a file on it?
[11:45] <bekks> v0lZy: No symlinking, but mounting.
[11:45] <Con7e1> adamkex: no
[11:46] <adamkex> Con7e1: As I suspected, how can I actually install Ubuntu on a USB?
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> adamkex:  if you make it with a perssitant save file on the usb. it can save changes.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> adamkex:  OR you can do a full normal install to a usb flash drive if its big enough
[11:46] <Con7e1> adamkex: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[11:46] <adamkex> Dr_Willis: How big must the USB be?
[11:47] <adamkex> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[11:47] <adamkex> ops sorry
[11:47] <Con7e1> adamkex: that's the tool you need
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> adamkex:  for a full normal install. id say at least 8gb.. 16+ if you want a useable system for  more normal ussage.
[11:47] <adamkex> Con7e1: Thank you
[11:48] <adamkex> Dr_Willis: I see, thank you for your help
[11:48] <v0lZy> bekks: how can i mount an already mounted /dev into a /mnt/dev to be seen in the chroot?
[11:48] <Con7e1> adamkex: The USB should have at least the size of the ISO + the storage space for the files that you may want to save in the live session
[11:49] <adamkex> Con7e1: Ok, thank you for your help :)
[11:49] <Con7e1> adamkex: No prob.
[11:50] <adamkex> Con7e1: Isn't Kubuntu 12.04 LTS stilla available?
[11:51] <v0lZy> never mind, silly question
[11:51] <v0lZy> got grub installed and booting
[11:51] <v0lZy> now  i just need to reconfigure it
[11:51] <v0lZy> last time i worked with grub was before it became grub2
[11:51] <v0lZy> grub2 stinks :D
[11:52] <Con7e1> adamkex: It should be. Why, u can't find it?
[11:52] <v0lZy> at least in legacy you could just edit some files
[11:52] <v0lZy> now its ... fugly.
[11:53] <v0lZy> i think my kernel line is messed up
[11:53] <Con7e1> adamkex: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download-lts#download-block
[11:53] <v0lZy> but now that theres no longer a grub config file in /boot ... where do i fix it?
[11:53] <adamkex> Con7e1: 12.04
[11:53] <CavaliereOscuro> !paste
[11:54] <Con7e1> adamkex: yeah, my bad
[11:54] <adamkex> Con7e1: Is it completely unsupported or can I download it from certain torrent websites?
[11:56] <Con7e1> adamkex: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/
[11:56] <CavaliereOscuro> cristian_c ?
[11:56] <adamkex> Con7e1: Thanks! :)
[11:56] <Con7e1> adamkex: By the end of the page, you get the download links for the version u are looking for
[11:57] <ZeThomas> hey, can anybody help me, I made a bootable usb with the lubuntu iso (via unetbootin), but my computer doesn't boot in it
[11:57] <cfhowlett> ZeThomas, more details ...
[11:57] <ZeThomas> md5 checks out, boot flag is set, i select usb as to boot from in bios
[11:58] <adamkex> Con7e1: Yeah I saw that now. Thank you for helping me, it is strange that it wasn't available on the first download page.
[11:58] <Con7e1> adamkex: Yeah... who knows why :D
[11:58] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: What do u mean?
[11:58] <cfhowlett> ZeThomas, new computer with windows 8?
[11:58] <v0lZy> ok
[11:58] <v0lZy> nevermind
[11:58] <adamkex> Con7e1: Who knows! Thank you :)
[11:58] <v0lZy> fixed it
[11:59] <ZeThomas> i formatted the usb stick before putting the iso on it, and my current lubuntu (13.4) reads and mounts the usb just fine
[11:59] <v0lZy> thanks bekks
[11:59] <FloodBot1> v0lZy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <v0lZy> bye all
[11:59] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Do you get any kind of error at boot?
[12:00] <ZeThomas> cfhowlett, Con7e1, it's a computer which has already lubuntu 13.4 on it, but because of mess and trouble i wanted to do a clean install of lubuntu 13.10
[12:01] <Con7e1> Con7e1: Ok, so you stick the USB in the PC, boot it, and what? Nothing happens?
[12:01] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Ok, so you stick the USB in the PC, boot it, and what? Nothing happens?
[12:01] <ZeThomas> cfhowlett, Con7e1, no error, but the weird thing is that normally the boot selection screen shows the label of the disks, but it doesn't show the label for the usb one here
[12:02] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: I can't understand. On my pc, if the USB is not recognized, it just boots the default OS.
[12:02] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, then after I select usb, it immediately proceeds to try and boot via LAN (next in order), and finally just goes on to boot from my HD
[12:04] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, so, in fact, exactly as you describe
[12:05] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: so your bios lets you decide what to boot, fromn like a menu?
[12:06] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, the only problem is, I don't know how to get it recognised anymore; also it booted just fine from this usb before i re-formatted it (with gparted) and put the new iso on (with unetbootin)
[12:06] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, yes, I press f10 to select what to boot from
[12:06] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: try to format the USB in FAT32
[12:06] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, it is in fat32
[12:08] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: I think the problem is unetbootin
[12:08] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: I alsways had problem with that program.
[12:08] <swood> join #android
[12:08] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[12:08] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Could you try that software?
[12:10] <dsirijus> could someone help me with this error message http://pastie.org/8450144
[12:10] <dsirijus> those locale entries look very fishy to me
[12:10] <dsirijus> for instance, LANGUAGE and LC_CTYPE
[12:12] <Con7e1> dsirijus: maybe see here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162391/how-do-i-fix-my-locale-issue
[12:12] <dsirijus> Con7e1: yeh, been there
[12:12] <dsirijus> didn-t help
[12:12] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, your link leads me to a .exe? I am on linux...
[12:13] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: I know man, but is the best software for this kind of thing that I can think of. I use it on my linux too LOL. In wine, of course
[12:13] <ZeThomas> ok, let me get wine first then..
[12:14] <dsirijus> Con7e1: i have some of those entries within quotations, some without, there's en_US:en which i don't know what is for, and also just UTF-8 for LC_CTYPE :/
[12:14] <dsirijus> (it's vanilla install, i haven't messed with it besides that link you've provided)
[12:15] <Con7e1> dsirijus: mmm, that's really strange. On the virtual machine are you connected to the internet?
[12:16] <dsirijus> Con7e1: yes
[12:16] <Con7e1> Con7e1: could you try: "export LANGUAGE=’en_US’" in the terminal?
[12:16] <dsirijus> Con7e1: i'd rather global solution, not per-user
[12:17] <Con7e1> dsirijus: sudo locale-gen el_CY.UTF-8 ?
[12:17] <dsirijus> CY?
[12:18] <dsirijus> wow, all these quits and joins are really annoying in this chan
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> dsirijus: you can hide joins/parts with your client
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> dsirijus  you can hide them, find out how to do it with your irc client
[12:20] <geirha> dsirijus: Did you ssh in from OSX?
[12:21] <dsirijus> geirha: yes, that's how i'm accessing it now
[12:21] <geirha> dsirijus: That's why, then. LC_CTYPE=UTF8 is valid on OSX, but not in Ubuntu.
[12:22] <tominos_> anyone know how to get iphones working?
[12:22] <geirha> if you change LC_CTYPE to en_US.UTF-8 on your OSX system, it should work for both
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !iphone
[12:22] <dsirijus> geirha: interesting. lemme try that
[12:22] <tominos_> ty
[12:23] <Con7e1> dsirijus: U could also try this: http://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=ik81ccvp78k4euhva3mrvm0oc2&topic=3367.msg29322#msg29322
[12:23] <Con7e1> dsirijus: adapting it with the settings for your language.
[12:25] <morph-> hey anyone here know much about dhcp?
[12:25] <morph-> im having a ton of trouble
[12:26] <reisio> morph-: define ton
[12:26] <morph-> like
[12:26] <morph-> my eth0 etc is missing
[12:26] <ikonia> how is that anything to do with dhcp ?
[12:26] <morph-> reisio http://pastebin.com/f8y9pced
[12:27] <ikonia> morph-: thats a virtual machine, where does dhcp come in ?
[12:27] <morph-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/dhcp3-server
[12:27] <dsirijus> Con7e1, geirha. thank you. the solution was just to untick "send enviroment variables to the client" in my terminal emulator in host os
[12:27] <morph-> I just did all of that
[12:27] <morph-> the thing is
[12:27] <morph-> its not a virtual machine
[12:27] <FloodBot1> morph-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:27] <dsirijus> geirha: on the right track, thanks :)
[12:27] <ikonia> morph-: just explain the problem/fault
[12:27] <ikonia> morph-: it is, its an openvz container
[12:27] <morph-> its an OVH server
[12:28] <Con7e1> dsirijus: Didn't knew u were on mac, I assumed windows, lol
[12:30] <dsirijus> Con7e1: yeh, i wasn't clear about most of my question. a lot of relevant info not presented
[12:30] <alazyworkaholic> On a new install with / as btrfs, but without any options at install-time, will I save space if I remove as many packages as possible, set mount option compress, then reinstall after remounting/rebooting?
[12:31] <reisio> how would that save space?
[12:32] <morph-> u guys got any idea?
[12:33] <ikonia> morph-: what's the actual question
[12:33] <morph-> why is the real ip not showing up?
[12:33] <j-stuff> hi, I have updated to saucy but there were some errors during the update (my fault). Is there a way to force a new "update" to saucy?
[12:33] <reisio> which ip do you want to show up?
[12:34] <ikonia> morph-: what real IP
[12:34] <alazyworkaholic> reisio: afaik, btrfs has the option for automatically compressing files. I think that if the compression is not enabled when files are written, theyĺl be on the disk in uncompressed size, but if compression is enabled when something is written to the disk, it´ll take up less space. (guessing)
[12:35] <reisio> alazyworkaholic: you'd only have to mv them if that were the case
[12:35] <morph-> ikonia i just pm'd u iut
[12:35] <ikonia> morph-: just say in the channel
[12:35] <morph-> I dont want to post the servers real IP in here
[12:35] <ikonia> morph-: you already have the servers IP in the pastebin
[12:35] <morph-> no
[12:35] <morph-> its not in there
[12:36] <ikonia> morph-: the interefaces in pastebin all have IP's
[12:36] <hello_hi_etc> hi
[12:36] <morph-> oh crap ikonia
[12:36] <morph-> lol
[12:36] <morph-> ok so why is it under venet0:0
[12:37] <morph-> instead of like eth0 or eth1 or something
[12:37] <ikonia> why is what ?
[12:37] <ikonia> morph-: because it's a openvz container...a virtual machine
[12:37] <morph-> is it?
[12:37] <morph-> i know the server is OVH
[12:37] <ikonia> I don't know what OVH means
[12:37] <morph-> I guess maybe my buddy put a VM on it
[12:37] <morph-> www.ovh.ie
[12:37] <morph-> dedicated servers
[12:37] <FloodBot1> morph-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:37] <ikonia> morph-: show me the output of uname -a please
[12:38] <morph-> Linux 11 2.6.32-20-pve #1 SMP Wed May 15 08:23:27 CEST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:38] <ikonia> do'nt know what the pve extension is, but that looks like an openvz container
[12:38] <Ben64> Proxmox VE kernels are optimized for the use with KVM and OpenVZ running on server hardware
[12:38] <ikonia> and seeing as they are offering "dedicated" servers for33.99 per month, I'd be VERY surprised if that was physical tin
[12:39] <ikonia> Ben64: thank you
[12:39] <ikonia> morph-: so it looks like a virtual machine, a container
[12:39] <ikonia> the words "dedicated server" appear to be a wording/marketing lie
[12:39] <Ben64> and ovh does provide actual servers for a good price too, but that one looks virtual
[12:39] <reisio> if it's something you're paying for, you probably get included support
[12:39] <morph-> ah okay
[12:39] <morph-> ty
[12:39] <rypervenche> OVH's support is very bad though. Great servers, bad support.
[12:39] <wiehan> does anyone know of a nice music streaming app that can run off an ubuntu server box (headless), and be set up via command line; and able to play through smartphones/tablets... Am I asking for to much? I tried forked-daapd, but that thing just doesn't wanna play nice.
[12:40] <reisio> wiehan: icecast
[12:40] <Ben64> meh, i've never needed support on servers
[12:40] <rypervenche> wiehan: Probably mpd.
[12:40] <morph-> true that rypervenche
[12:41] <reisio> course if you can just mount a network share, that's better than a streaming server
[12:41] <morph-> they are slow support wise
[12:46] <AJH101> Hi I have a clean installation of 13.10 but when I try to update the software I get the message: Failed to download respository information - check you internet connection. I am connected fine - any other ideas please?
[12:47] <luke777scope> I think that there is a trouble inside on one of the files that make the connection with the server where is the repository
[12:47] <hello_hi_etc> AJH101:  your source list got a unuseable mirror
[12:48] <compdoc> AJH101, first try: sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <AJH101> thanks - do i reinstall? i also have a blue login screen
[12:48] <luke777scope> maybe could be true hello_hi_etc ...
[12:48] <luke777scope> try with that...
[12:48] <hello_hi_etc> AJH101: why install again dont disturb haddisc sector :)
[12:49] <rypervenche> AJH101: Ubuntu is not windows. Rarely would you need to re-install.
[12:49] <aib> hi, I have problems mounting my digital camera. anyone able to help?
[12:49] <AJH101> Hmm: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:50] <hello_hi_etc> AJH101:  check your gpg key some problem resolved
[12:50] <AJH101> sorry how do i do that?!
[12:52] <hello_hi_etc> AJH101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[12:53] <hello_hi_etc> aib: usb camera ? try lsusb and find driver
[12:54] <hello_hi_etc> aib: always show lsusb your usb device manufact..
[12:55] <aib> it's a Nikon D7k in PTP mode. gphoto2 --auto-detect: Nikon DSC D7000 (PTP mode)     usb:001,004
[12:55] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  USB all using same device function but only have a different buss addresses
[12:56] <aib> I can see my sd cards as folders with gphoto2 -l, but I'd rather have it mounted
[12:56] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  its already knowing your pc. try some codec and emulation programs (simple amsn)
[12:57] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  if you want auto munt mode pls check your camera working mode
[12:58] <aib> hello_hi_etc: how would I do that?
[12:59] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  open a browser(vlc,conqueror etc) and  paste your device address
[13:00] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  if you got a codec problem allready warn to you
[13:00] <hello_hi_etc> aib: sorry for my bad english
[13:00] <aib> gphoto2://[usb:001,004] ? Dolpin says "invalid protocol"
[13:00] <aib> np
[13:01] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  you need instal codec for which used apps
[13:01] <aib> same with "camera:/"
[13:03] <hello_hi_etc> your camera is work but dont know pc which type your stream
[13:05] <aib> yes. gphoto2 can see the files. the mount used to work, too
[13:05] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  try to install mpeg (2,4) codec
[13:06] <rularula> hello, i would like to use pidgin to chat with friends privately and am unsure on how to do it. i heard there's a special plugin to install (otr). could somebody please clarify me how this works and how to proceed? please note i am a beginner :)
[13:06] <rypervenche> AJH101: Yeah, your sources are probably not working. Can you do us a favor and install pastebinit and run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit"
[13:06] <aib> mpeg? sorry, what?
[13:08] <hello_hi_etc> aib: apt-cache search mpeg //which you need ?
[13:08] <AJH101> pastebinit here i come...
[13:09] <rularula> is pidgin not the preferred chat method for ubuntu users?
[13:10] <hello_hi_etc> aib:  try ; sudo apt-get install libmpeg2-4
[13:10] <rularula> how do ubuntu users normally set things up to chat (via instant messaging) privately with friends?
[13:10] <AJH101> rypervench: Here you go! http://paste.ubuntu.com/6346851/
[13:11] <sarah33> hi everyone, I need a little help, I have installed fglrx on my ubuntu but now I have a black screen after grub and nothing happends, I have seen that I must look at Xorg log and I have found the error: /dev/dri/card0 no device found, could anyone help me
[13:11] <aib> "gphotofs <some_directory>" worked.... I can see the files
[13:11] <rularula> somebody knows?
[13:13] <rularula> ubuntu support: please note i exist :)
[13:13] <hello_hi_etc> sarah33: you need reback xserver configuration
[13:14] <aib> rularula: there's a package called "pidgin-otr".. maybe that's what you need?
[13:14] <reisio> rularula: that would be for encrypted chat
[13:14] <reisio> ordinary chat you can just use pidgin
[13:14] <rypervenche> AJH101: Yeah, I would change your sources file to use a different mirror.
[13:14] <sarah33> hello_hi_etc, are you sure there is no other options I have found that it can be a grub problem like here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37755/fglrx-fails-to-load-causing-black-screen-on-boot
[13:14] <rularula> aib: thank you, was starting to get sad :) yes i think that's it but what to do exactly? i have never done it before...
[13:15] <ajf> Now I'm angry
[13:15] <reisio> rularula: install, follow instructions
[13:15] <AJH101> rypervench: i have no idea how to do that?! :-)
[13:15] <reisio> ajf: :)
[13:15] <ajf> You can't add custom commands to Open With on Ubuntu any more
[13:15] <ajf> And there is absolutely no good reason for it
[13:15] <ripthejacker> how do add the ppa for the latest kernel ? the one that includes ver 3.12?
[13:15] <ajf> Now you have to use a 3rd-party utility or the Terminal
[13:15] <ripthejacker> do I*
[13:15] <rularula> reisio: thanks, just would like to chat privately with friends, but i mean there are no big secrets or things to hide :)
[13:15] <aib> rularula: there are a number of options for you. let me see... "apt-get" "aptitude" "ubuntu software center" "synaptic" any of these sound familiar?
[13:16] <reisio> ajf: or another DE, of which there are many available?
[13:16] <hello_hi_etc> sarah33:  dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg is a tricks not apliable command
[13:16] <aib> rularula: all of these are used to install official packages from Ubuntu, like pidgin-otr
[13:16] <reisio> rularula: it's not a bad idea, looking ahead, to encrypt your communication
[13:16] <ajf> reisio: true
[13:16] <ripthejacker> !mainline
[13:16] <ajf> But there is no good reason to remove this
[13:16] <ajf> :/
[13:16] <reisio> rularula: of course, the other people you're conversing with could always be logging your conversations to an extremely insecure place, so it's kind of a crap shoot
[13:17] <rularula> reisio: so what would you do? how would you organize an im chat with a friend of yours?
[13:18] <rularula> would you use pidgin?
[13:18] <reisio> I've yet to meet a friend as technophilic as myself, they tend to use IM networks supported by major corporations
[13:18] <rularula> :)
[13:18] <reisio> skype, aim, yahoo, etc.
[13:18] <reisio> so the only real choice without upgrading them is to use what they use
[13:18] <rularula> also i am confused about the room/channel. which room/channel to use or create a new one or what....
[13:18] <zack6849> reisio, write one of your own or force them to use a good one :D
[13:19] <reisio> rularula: hrmm?
[13:19] <reisio> zack6849: forcing isn't always so easy :)
[13:19] <hello_hi_etc> sarah33: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[13:19] <zack6849> beat them until they comply :D
[13:19] <rularula> hrmm? dont understand
[13:19] <reisio> zack6849: good idea
[13:19] <AJH101> rypervench: sorry being dense. sorted now, thanks
[13:19] <reisio> rularula: that's my line
[13:20] <rularula> that's your line? still dont understand :)
[13:20] <aib> rularula: did you read my thing about the software tools?
[13:20] <hello_hi_etc> rularula:  if you dont want any login use ssh chat, you already use a aplication all got logging menu
[13:20] <reisio> rularula: what do you want? :p
[13:21] <rularula> aib: yes, thanks
[13:21] <hello_hi_etc> reisio:  private chat no logging no dump no traceable
[13:22] <reisio> hello_hi_etc: why do you have two nicks, rularula?
[13:22] <rularula> reisio: what server/channel should i use to chat? anyone? create a new one? sorry i am a beginner...
[13:22] <aib> rularula: I use aptitude myself, from a terminal window, because I'm used to it and I sometimes manage remote servers. I think "Ubuntu Software Center" is the one people are encouraged to use. find "pidgin-otr" and install it, should be straightforwar
[13:22] <sarah33> hello_hi_etc, thanks it seems a good way, I will try it
[13:22] <reisio> rularula: for what, IRC?
[13:22] <rularula> yes i think :)
[13:22] <ajf> anyhow
[13:22] <reisio> rularula: did you want to talk about something in particular?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> rularula  #ubuntu-offtopic is more for social chat
[13:23] <ajf> How can I associate .exe files with Wine without using 3rd-party software on Ubuntu?
[13:23] <ajf> Anyone know how?
[13:23] <reisio> ajf: does Ubuntu even come with wine?
[13:23] <reisio> technically it's 3rd party
[13:23] <ajf> reisio: I've installed it
[13:23] <reisio> ajf: then it's 3rd party
[13:23] <rularula> reisio: no just general private chat with  a friend
[13:23] <ajf> No I mean
[13:23] <ajf> Setting the file association without using a 3rd-party utility
[13:23] <hello_hi_etc> i am start while True:pass not equal while 1 : pass i got 1 nickname
[13:23] <reisio> rularula: have you chatted with this friend in the past?
[13:23] <ajf> I don't want to have to install "Ubuntu Tweak" or any of that nonsense
[13:24] <reisio> ajf: that's an odd requirement, having already installed 3rd party software
[13:24] <reisio> ajf: should be able to do it from nautilus
[13:24] <ajf> Can't
[13:24] <aib> ajf: it's happened to me automatically. try right click, "open with", "always use" and stuff? in any case it should be your desktop system's (Gnome?) responsibility
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> ajf  right click on the .exe, then select 'Open with Wine'
[13:24] <ajf> MonkeyDust: I want it to by default
[13:24] <rularula> reisio: yes but using crappy webchats... i want to change
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> ajf  then take aib 's advice
[13:25] <reisio> rularula: what did you find crappy about them?
[13:25] <ajf> aib: not sure what you're on about
[13:25] <ajf> there is no "Always Use"
[13:25] <ajf> Are you thinking of Windows?
[13:25] <hello_hi_etc> reisio:  maybe a bad boy/girl lol
[13:25] <rularula> advertising, sometimes there were other people, general sense of not being in a private environment
[13:26] <reisio> hello_hi_etc: ?
[13:26] <aib> ajf: try fiddling with your file manager's settings is what I'm talking about. which desktop system do you use?
[13:26] <ajf> Ubuntu's default, GNOME
[13:26] <ajf> Nautilus is the file manager... I think
[13:26] <aib> doesn't it have another default nowadays?
[13:26] <ajf> It feels rather un-nautilus-y now, as if Canonical had rewrote it. probably just my imagination, now
[13:26] <ajf> *though
[13:26] <reisio> aib: it uses a modified version of GNOME
[13:26] <reisio> the file manager is not modified AFAIK
[13:26] <ajf> It's called "Files"
[13:27] <reisio> that's just a genericized title
[13:27] <ajf> Which appears to be nautilus, as calling "nautilus" on terminal launches it
[13:27] <rularula> reisio: advertising, sometimes there were other people, general sense of not being in a private environment
[13:27] <aib> anyway, try including Nautilus or GNOME in your question. I use KDE and can't help you there (System Settings -> File Assoc. did it for me, though. just switched *.exe from Mono to Wine)
[13:27] <reisio> rularula: ah
[13:27] <ajf> aib: OK
[13:27] <reisio> rularula: well you could, for example, start a channel here on freenoe
[13:27] <ajf> Re-phrased:
[13:27] <reisio> rularula: and make it private
[13:28] <rularula> reisio: how do you make it private?
[13:28] <ajf> How on earth do you change the default file associations to something not listed in the Open With tab on Ubuntu 13.10 in Unity Nautilus?
[13:28] <ajf> (without having to install 3rd-party Ubuntu configuration editors)
[13:28] <reisio> rularula: +i, I believe; see http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml or #freenode
[13:28] <ajf> (I actually already know the answer to this: You can't! The feature was removed!)
[13:28] <aib> afj: and I have right click -> Open With -> Other... -> Remember app. assoc. so no, I wasn't thinking of Windows. How dare you!
[13:28] <hello_hi_etc> rularula: you need use a encoder/decoder scrip
[13:29] <reisio> ajf: you can, but that's not really the issue
[13:29] <rularula> reisio: ok thanks, will take a look
[13:29] <ajf> reisio: No you can't, there's no option to add something that's not listed
[13:29] <reisio> rularula: i for 'invite-only', etc.
[13:29] <rularula> hello_hi_etc: thanks
[13:29] <reisio> ajf: it wouldn't matter if there were an option or not, you can
[13:29] <reisio> but I'd be surprised if there weren't an option
[13:29] <ajf> By terminal, maybe
[13:30] <ajf> reisio: There was an option and it has been removed
[13:30] <reisio> by terminal absolutely
[13:30] <reisio> ajf: you keep saying that
[13:30] <rularula> reisio: do i need otr for that or not? sorry i am confused
[13:30] <reisio> did you want to focus on fixing your issue, or just saying the same thing over and over?
[13:30] <ripthejacker> how can I uninstall a kernel I installed using deb?
[13:30] <ajf> Mostly on fixing it
[13:30] <reisio> rularula: no, pidgin-otr is for encrypting IM stuff using pidgin
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ajf  yes, more options have been removed, like F3-multi-panel
[13:31] <rularula> reisio: so i can have a private conversation without otr?
[13:31] <reisio> ajf: 13.10 you said?
[13:31] <ajf> MonkeyDust: Huh, I didn't know Nautilus ever had that
[13:31] <ajf> reisio: Yes
[13:31] <reisio> rularula: private and encrypted are different
[13:31] <reisio> rularula: otr is for encrypted
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> ajf  so you can't miss it, but i do
[13:31] <ajf> Yeah :/
[13:32] <rularula> reisio: so if it's just a regular chat with a friend i dont need otr for supersecurity i guess
[13:32] <ajf> The thing that annoys me is that Ubuntu's default setup is even less customisable than OS X and Windows in some areas, which is frankly quite bizzare.
[13:32] <reisio> rularula: probably not
[13:33] <reisio> rularula: even if you did encrypt your chat connection, that wouldn't be a guarantee that what you said remained secret
[13:33] <reisio> although it'd be a start
[13:33]  * ajf will shut up about being annoyed that basic features were removed and try to solve her own issue some other way
[13:33] <alazyworkaholic> I have a couple secondary hard drives. I changed ownership of them so that the first user has rw access, but the 2nd user on the computer doesn´t have rw access. I don´t understand groups too well. What do I have to do to let the 2nd user access the hard drives rw?
[13:33] <reisio> ajf: maybe you should switch to ordinary GNOME, then
[13:33] <hays> ajf: it could be that unity doesn't match your own design aesthetic and you could try maybe one of the other many options available
[13:33] <ajf> hays: I have no problem with Unity, I quite like it
[13:33] <rularula> reisio: thank you, i am less confused now :)
[13:33] <reisio> ajf: except for all that complaining...
[13:34] <DrGrov> Hi. Is anyone using Sopcast here on 13.10?
[13:34] <ajf> reisio: I'm complaining about one specific feature :P
[13:34] <reisio> ajf: of Unity
[13:34] <ajf> Well, I assume it's Unity. Maybe GNOME removed it
[13:34] <reisio> I doubt it
[13:34] <rularula> reisio: what is the most popular irc client for ubuntu? is it pidgin?
[13:34] <DrGrov> rularula: XChat
[13:35] <DrGrov> rularula: Or if in terminal, irssi probably.
[13:35] <hello_hi_etc> ajf:  http://www.sofacreator.com/koltukkumasgiydirme.php some comments ?
[13:35] <reisio> rularula: for IRC, what DrGrov said
[13:35] <new0> what is the best way to rdp to win7?
[13:35] <new0> on local network
[13:35] <reisio> new0: with freerdp or rdesktop
[13:35] <rularula> DrGrov: which is better for a simple beginner user? pidgin or xchat?
[13:35] <new0> reisio, not sure what they are both
[13:35] <reisio> rularula: they have largely different applications
[13:35] <aib> ahh, Unity. that's the name. meh.
[13:35] <reisio> pidgin is more for IM protocols, XChat for IRC
[13:36] <rularula> reisio: so pidgin is more general? is that what you mean?
[13:36] <hays> if you like unity you would also like macosx+macports
[13:36] <DrGrov> rularula: XChat
[13:36] <reisio> new0: well try remina, it has a GUI
[13:36] <aib> rularula: pidgin has plugins for everything, from, say Skype to MSN
[13:36] <DrGrov> reisio: Sorry for hijacking your question :(
[13:36]  * reisio shrugs
[13:37] <new0> reisio, ho. right. u just told me the answer :) remina. ok, how to download? sudo apt...?
[13:37] <rularula> aib: so you can videochat with pidgin?
[13:37] <reisio> new0: yes
[13:37] <DrGrov> reisio: No no, come here now. I will shag you.. No I mean hug you LOL
[13:37] <reisio> new0: remmina, that is, two m's
[13:37] <reisio> DrGrov: :p
[13:37]  * DrGrov is blaming the keyboard for everything happening now
[13:37] <reisio> rularula: you can, yes
[13:37] <new0> reisio, sudo apt-get install remina?
[13:37] <new0> reisio, not working from the termianl
[13:37] <reisio> new0: r-e-m-m-i-n-a
[13:37] <ajf> Anyway, does anyone know the solution?
[13:38] <rularula> reisio: do i need to have both installed to videochat? i mean both pidgin and skype? or just pidgin?
[13:38] <aib> rularula: in theory. don't know how advanced their plugins are. last I used it was ages ago. (before you ask, I use Skype and Mumble and the web-based chat for facebook and gtalk. all insecure.)
[13:38] <new0> reisio, right. it's installed already.
[13:38] <reisio> ajf: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/238013
[13:39] <reisio> rularula: you need skype to use skype
[13:39] <DrGrov> What would be a good WM/DE? Preferrably sexy and beautiful (or at least possible to make sexy and beautiful)
[13:39] <reisio> rularula: pidgin supports other networks
[13:39] <reisio> DrGrov: whichever
[13:39] <DrGrov> reisio: Oh, true. I will just gotta test everything out there.
[13:40] <new0> reisio, tnx. now about Num Lock "On" i had some software to turn it on once i start the OS. (working my last issues on ubuntu)
[13:40] <rularula> ok thank you reisio and thank you everybody, i am good for the moment :)
[13:42] <aib> DrGrov: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18273
[13:43] <aib> DrGrov: me, I just tried the first 5-6 I knew the names of, then settled with KDE, my ex-lover
[13:43] <ajf> welp, I'm installing XFCE
[13:43] <ajf> I hear it's nice
[13:43] <reisio> ajf: it is, that seems quite wise
[13:43] <new0> what software i need to turn on the Num Lock on system boot?
[13:43] <mrafiq> hi iam in pakistan and youtube is blocked i want to access how i can access
[13:43] <mrafiq> using ubuntu
[13:43] <ajf> mrafiq: use a proxy
[13:43] <reisio> ajf: and they don't seem to abandon their design goals every other release like GNOME and Ubuntu :)
[13:43] <dashavoo> Does scanning from all in one printers work in ubuntu?
[13:43] <DrGrov> aib: Thank you :) That is a nice link.
[13:43] <mrafiq> what kind of proxy
[13:44] <ajf> reisio: haha
[13:44] <mrafiq> can u guide me how to set up a vpn
[13:44] <ajf> No
[13:44] <ajf> mrafiq: Find a proxy or somehow get Tor to work
[13:44] <ajf> Your question isn't really an Ubuntu one, is it, though?
[13:45] <mrafiq> i have downloaded tor but it contains a folder with text files with code
[13:45] <mrafiq> i could not understand the code and how to setup the tor
[13:46] <mrafiq> can some one guide me how to setup pptp
[13:46] <aib> ciao
[13:46] <yeats> dashavoo: it does work, though you might need to track down drivers
[13:47] <MonkeyDust> mrafiq  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[13:47] <groleo> hi.on pandaboard,  i'm seeing "Illegal instruction" in gdb, even with simple test as just the main function
[13:50] <dashavoo> yeats, I am guessing that scanning isn't included in the ppd file for printing? I am looking into an OKI mc342dnw
[13:51] <Foxhoundz> whatever happened to Linux "not needing to restart everytime there's an update"
[13:52] <reisio> Foxhoundz: the traditional method to utilize an updated kernel is to restart
[13:52] <reisio> some upfront work to not have to do that
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Foxhoundz  there's ksplice, if you don't want to restart after a kernel upgrade
[13:52] <Foxhoundz> But there was no kernel upgrade
[13:52] <Foxhoundz> all it did was updated a few libs and firefox
[13:52] <reisio> Foxhoundz: then you didn't have to reboot
[13:53] <Foxhoundz> and it's giving me a modal box with no way of closing it
[13:53] <reisio> xkill
[13:53] <Foxhoundz> ...
[13:53] <Foxhoundz> Surely you realize the usability considerations in this situation, no?
[13:53] <reisio> Foxhoundz: hrmm?
[13:54] <duisebekov> Всем привет
[13:54] <Foxhoundz> Perhaps this is a bug? No window control being shown for the restart mesage?
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[13:54] <cfhowlett> MD beat me to it!
[13:54] <cfhowlett> fast fingering there
[13:54] <Foxhoundz> !es @ cfhowlett
[13:55] <reisio> Foxhoundz: no they probably did it on purpose to avoid people complaining about applications not working after an update
[13:55] <rypervenche> !es | cfhowlett
[13:57] <ulik> how do I view the version number of a package that i have not installed but would like to
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> ulik  apt-cache show
[13:57] <ulik> from the command line, i search for a package using sudo aptitude search. but i want to see the version numbers associated with those packages
[13:57] <ulik> thanks
[13:58] <rypervenche> ulik: aptitude show packagename will do the same thing if you prefer to use aptitude. Note that you don't need to use sudo with the search function on either aptitude or apt-cache.
[13:58] <levo> my laptop can't detect one of the wifi networks in Uni, could it be due to my network adapter, being old for example? (have this problem on Windows as well)
[13:58] <stormchaser3000> hi
[13:58] <ulik> rypervenche: ah, thank you.
[13:58] <stormchaser3000> i need help with my system
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> stormchaser3000  let's hear it!
[13:59] <stormchaser3000> ok
[13:59] <stormchaser3000> i want to acces a file as root
[13:59] <stormchaser3000> that i locked on acident
[14:00] <stormchaser3000> and i don't know my root password
[14:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !sudo | stormchaser3000
[14:00] <stormchaser3000> i know
[14:00] <stormchaser3000> ok i will try
[14:01] <SonikkuAmerica> stormchaser3000: The "[sudo] password" is your account password (if you have one)
[14:01] <stormchaser3000> i use lucid ubuntu 10.04
[14:01] <stormchaser3000> not the latest
[14:01] <gordonjcp> stormchaser3000: not even supported, any more
[14:01] <andrea> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[14:01] <stormchaser3000> lol i know
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> stormchaser3000  desktop or server?
[14:01] <stormchaser3000> but i have 14.7 kb a sec internet
[14:02] <stormchaser3000> desktop
[14:02] <stormchaser3000> so i can't download the latest iso
[14:02] <stormchaser3000> i want 13.40
[14:02] <neoromance> Hi, I've got an issue on ubuntu 13.10 with launching wmfs from .xinitrc.
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> stormchaser3000  10.04 desktop is a corpse, fit for halloween
[14:02] <stormchaser3000> 13.10*
[14:03] <stormchaser3000> i want 13.10
[14:03] <neoromance> $ ck-launch-session dbus-launch wmfs &
[14:03] <stormchaser3000> but i use 10.04 desktop
[14:03] <neoromance> it doesn't work.
[14:03] <ozberk> hi guys I have an Asus EEE r101 with two GB RAM but
[14:03] <ozberk> ubuntu 12.04 has still some lag issues
[14:03] <ozberk> what should I do
[14:03] <neoromance> Any Idea what' I'm doing wrong?
[14:03] <andrea> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[14:04] <ozberk> I optimized it as best as I can disabled all of the animations -
[14:04] <stormchaser3000> ok no wi need to know how to cd to a file and delete it
[14:04] <Guest24088> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[14:04] <stormchaser3000> i know how to cd
[14:05] <stormchaser3000> but not delete
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> stormchaser3000  sudo rm [file]
[14:05] <stormchaser3000> ok
[14:06] <neoromance> $ ck-launch-session dbus-launch wmfs & # It doesn't work, any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[14:07] <stormchaser3000> i want to download 13.10 but i only have 14.7 kb a sec internet should i do wget and just wait for like 3 days
[14:07] <UrielVigilant> dpkg error using Lubuntu on persistent mode to try  install espon driver : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347122/
[14:08] <ajf> Ahh, XFCE. Much better :)
[14:09] <ajf> And XFCE's file manager isn't insane, so I can actually set the default file association to Wine like I wanted to
[14:09]  * rypervenche shivers.
[14:09] <ozberk> guys I'm totally hopeless over there :(
[14:09] <ozberk> I tried all of the lighweight distros
[14:10] <reisio> ajf: :)
[14:10] <ozberk> but all distros makes LAG :/
[14:10] <new0> is there any remote control for win7?
[14:10] <ajf> ozberk: are you using a 386DX processor, per chance?
[14:10] <reisio> new0: ?
[14:10] <new0> from ubuntu of course
[14:10] <stormchaser3000> i lag on windows milions more then on linux distros you should be happy
[14:10] <reisio> new0: to do what
[14:10] <ozberk> ajf ?
[14:10] <ajf> I was making a joke
[14:11] <ajf> If all the lightweight distros are slow for you, maybe your PC is quite old?
[14:11] <stormchaser3000> i have a omputer with 2 gigs of ram
[14:11] <new0> reisio, instead of rdp i want to remote control a remote pc on my local network
[14:11] <new0> reisio, ^
[14:11] <ozberk> ajf: I don't know what is it it's an Asus EEE r101
[14:11] <ozberk> mee too
[14:11] <stormchaser3000> and a 500 hz
[14:11] <stormchaser3000> i1 core
[14:11] <ajf> Oh, EEEPC
[14:11] <stormchaser3000> and i lag
[14:11] <ajf> It's... not very fast
[14:11] <ozberk> so many people are logingin and out
[14:12] <texas_214> does anyone know how to change the graphics from gallium 0.4 to Intel Sandy bridge?  ever since I updated to saucy the graphics changed & now Ubuntu is extremely slow
[14:12] <ozberk> because I can'tyt follow all of them :S
[14:12] <reisio> new0: yeah, to do what
[14:12] <UrielVigilant> Sorry i put -l instead -i to use dpkg  for unpack deb files :   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347122/
[14:12] <ozberk> ajf can I text to you as a pm
[14:13] <texas_214> on lts & raring mine showed intel & ran perfect now it shows gallium
[14:13] <faugusztin> ozberk: a single core atom will lag whatever you do
[14:14] <aleksejs_> Hi!
[14:14] <ozberk> it's dualcore intel atom
[14:14] <texas_214> ?  anyone?
[14:15] <stormchaser3000> ok i got this error when trying to remove this file
[14:15] <stormchaser3000> http://pastebin.com/Ww0tb1Bd
[14:15] <faugusztin> ozberk: no, it is singlecore atom n450 with hyperthreading... and it is only the 2nd gen atom, so superold. try something like XFCE, maybe it will run better. but GMA3150 is simply not powerfull enough for all these compositing effects
[14:15] <hellangel> stormchaser3000, try it without the file://
[14:15] <stormchaser3000> ok
[14:15] <texas_214> ?  graphics?
[14:16] <hellangel> stormchaser3000, also since you are already a root, you do not require "sudo"
[14:16] <hellangel> -a
[14:16] <stormchaser3000> oh ok
[14:16] <aleksejs_> I have a asus x550c laptop with GF720m video, which is disabled by default. I tried to enable it, and now desktop ofers only 640x480 resolution and doesnt allow to change it
[14:17] <aleksejs_> does anyone have an idea, how to fix it?
[14:17] <UrielVigilant> dpkg need lsb, when i did sudo apt-get install lsb , on terminal, terminal said to type:  sudo apt-get -f  , with out packages, this is rigt ?
[14:17] <stormchaser3000> it says i cannot remove a directory
[14:18] <hellangel> stormchaser3000, you forgot to use the -r argument
[14:18] <stormchaser3000> ?
[14:19] <stormchaser3000> can i have an exampel code
[14:19] <stormchaser3000> for that use
[14:19] <aleksejs_> anyone?
[14:19] <hellangel> stormchaser3000, im very worried if you dont know the RM command but are logged in somewhere as root.. anyway, rm -r /path/to/folder
[14:19] <stormchaser3000> oh ok
[14:20] <Con7e1> aleksejs_: have you tried installing some video drivers?
[14:20] <texas_214> no help?
[14:20] <tirta-lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10
[14:20] <stormchaser3000> thanks
[14:20] <stormchaser3000> it worked (i am a noob still)
[14:21] <texas_214> con7e1 could you help me?
[14:21] <hellangel> stormchaser3000, no worries =)
[14:21] <Con7e1> texas_214: what's the prob?
[14:21] <aleksejs_> Con7e1, one guy told mento try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee, I did and after that, I got that bug
[14:21] <tirta-lalondong> and i've just installed LAMP, i tried to make symbolic link to /var/www but it seems not working when i try to open it on the browser. . . but instead it's working if it's the real copy of the file.
[14:22] <texas_214> I updated to 13.10 & now under graphics it shows gallium & it runs really slow
[14:22] <tirta-lalondong> how can i fix this?
[14:22] <texas_214> con7e1
[14:23] <Con7e1> texas_214: So you are on a laptop?
[14:23] <hellangel> someone is holding a power plug in their hand :p
[14:23] <texas_214> before it showed Sandy bridge intel
[14:23] <texas_214> yeah chromebook to be exact
[14:23] <texas_214> con7e1
[14:24] <Con7e1> texas_214: what model exactly?
[14:24] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, I have installed wine and run this program from it, and it gives an error: "Failed to open device - close any files before formatting and make sure you have Admin rights when using fat32format"
[14:25] <texas_214> con7e1 chromebook model is acer c710
[14:25] <ZeThomas> but I can't run wine as root; this is disallowed...
[14:25] <texas_214> con7e1 if that's what you meant for model
[14:25] <Con7e1> texas_214: Yeah, that's what I meant
[14:26] <UrielVigilant> lubuntu is real faster then ubuntu ? in usb persistent mode, it seems to be close faster ubuntu then lubuntu. this is normal ?
[14:26] <tirta-lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 and i've just installed LAMP, it's working perfectly, then i tried to make symbolic link to /var/www/ but it's not working on the browser, i've changed to permission, still not working. Then i tried to copy the real file to the /var/www and it's working. How do i fix this symbolic link?
[14:26] <faugusztin> tirta-lalondong: does the Apache config have enabled Symlinks ?
[14:26] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: That's really odd
[14:26] <tirta-lalondong> how to check that?
[14:27] <faugusztin> tirta-lalondong: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#directory <-- FollowSymlinks
[14:27] <tirta-lalondong> i'll go try it.
[14:27] <faugusztin> tirta-lalondong: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#options
[14:27] <UrielVigilant> I need restricted extras for lubuntu ?  i cant find this package on lubuntu software ...
[14:27] <texas_214> con7e1 yeah I've upgraded the chromebook for better hardware = 60gb ssd & 4gb of ram
[14:27] <Con7e1> texas_214: Could you run this command and tell me the output? "lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3"
[14:28] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, after that, it proceeded to install the iso, and the files seem to be present... I'll try it out, see you in a bit (if it didn't work)
[14:28] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Ok, let me know.
[14:30] <texas_214> con7e1 could you give me one moment bc im using irc on my phone so I need to log off & long my chromebook so I can copy & paste
[14:31] <UrielVigilant> sudo gedit blacklist.conf   not work on lubuntu ? what works instead ?
[14:31] <Con7e1> texas_214: No prob, I am here
[14:31] <aleksejs_> Con7e1, I've fixed my problem with resolution by deleting xorg.conf. Now I have another problem
[14:32] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Hey guys, i need some help. I made a Windows XP VM in virtualbox with direct 3d and 3d and 2d acceleration enabled and all that stuff but when i load a direct 3d app it is not accelerated.
[14:32] <Con7e1> aleksejs_: tell me
[14:32] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, doesn't boot...
[14:32] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Ok, format it again in fat32
[14:32] <semajnad> Hello. I've stoped a user having SSH access (as they don't need to access the command line) but need to run a executable as that user. How can this be done?
[14:33] <faugusztin> UrielVigilant: use any other text editor... maybe nano ?
[14:33] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, with gparted or in the wine'd .exe?
[14:33] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: With gparted
[14:33] <texas_214> con7e1 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0106] (rev 09)
[14:33] <texas_214> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0106]
[14:33] <texas_214> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[14:33] <texas_214> 00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 [8086:1e2d] (rev 04)
[14:33] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: what it is the command line in that case ?
[14:33] <Luigi2012SM64DS> I have an Nvidia Quadro4 580 XGL graphics card.
[14:33] <faugusztin> UrielVigilant: sudo nano blacklist.conf
[14:34] <UrielVigilant> thanks
[14:34] <Luigi2012SM64DS> And on the Nvidia website the driver is made for xorg 1.12 and not 1.13
[14:34] <semajnad> Hey wafflejock , want another thing to work your mind ;)
[14:34] <CorpusCallosum> Hi guys, what i wonder is i install ubuntu 12.04 in vm and gave 20 gb hdd space, even i did not install so much thing, it says hdd is full. is that normal ?
[14:34] <aleksejs_> I've installed steam via winetricks to get my windows games working. Some games crashed, because there are not enough vga ram in intel vga. That's why I tried to install that Bumblebee. But now, after deleting xorg, those games don't even start
[14:35] <Luigi2012SM64DS> how can i get acceleration working?
[14:35] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: what does the df and df -i commands say in available column for your disk ?
[14:35] <semajnad> I've stoped a user having SSH access (as they don't need to access the command line) but need to run a executable as that user. How can this be done?
[14:35] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: *available for df and IFree for df -i
[14:36] <faugusztin> semajnad: sudo su - username -c command
[14:36] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Hey guys, i need some help. I made a Windows XP VM in virtualbox with direct 3d and 3d and 2d acceleration enabled and all that stuff but when i load a direct 3d app it is not accelerated.
[14:36] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, there, formatted; i try the .exe again now?
[14:36] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: ask in #vbox
[14:36] <Luigi2012SM64DS> ok
[14:36] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: i modifyed the file now how to sae it with nano ?
[14:37] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: i modifyed the file now how to save it with nano ?
[14:37] <tcstory> 8-)
[14:37] <faugusztin> UrielVigilant: do you see the bottom lines ? :)
[14:37] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: i modifyed the file now how to save it with nano ?
[14:37] <CorpusCallosum> Hi guys, what i wonder is i install ubuntu 12.04 in vm and gave 20 gb hdd space, even i did not install so much thing, it says hdd is full. is that normal ? it seems it is using too much hdd space
[14:37] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: i see but save optinos is isn t there
[14:38] <faugusztin> UrielVigilant: press Ctrl+X, then Y, Enter
[14:38] <faugusztin> UrielVigilant: Writeout = save :)
[14:38] <UrielVigilant> faugusztin: thanks once again
[14:38] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: No, it seems that on your system it has some problems
[14:38] <texas_214> con7e1 did you see my post of info?
[14:38] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Do you have "Startup disk creator"
[14:38]  * Tex_Nick is back (gone 00:02:02)
[14:38] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: It should be on all Ubuntu's
[14:39] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: i did answer your question - what are the outputs of df|pastebinit and df -i|pastebinit
[14:39]  * Tex_Nick is away: Tex_Nick is AFK ATM, BBL
[14:39] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: either your disk space or your inodes are used up
[14:39] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: You could give it a try. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[14:39] <shf> 有说中文的没
[14:39] <Con7e1> texas_214: Yes, I am searching the net right now
[14:40] <CorpusCallosum> faugusztin, sorry i was disconnected thats why could not see http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347307/
[14:41] <tcstory> shf: me ~!
[14:41] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: so you got 1.2GB Free space, is the file you are trying to copy bigger than 1.2GB ?
[14:41] <tcstory> i get problem with multiple-cursors-vim
[14:41] <Luigi2012SM64DS> No one on #vbox is active and i believe this is a graphics driver problem not a virtualblox problem
[14:41] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Hey guys, i need some help. I made a Windows XP VM in virtualbox with direct 3d and 3d and 2d acceleration enabled and all that stuff but when i load a direct 3d app it is not accelerated.
[14:41] <CorpusCallosum> yes. faugusztin the problem i used 2.6 gb disk ubuntu. and gave 20 gb hdd how come it uses 19 gb disk
[14:42] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: are ubuntu graphics accelerated?
[14:42] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats how do I tell? I am runniong Lubuntu
[14:43] <tcstory> :-(
[14:43] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: well you either copied something large there, or something is eating your disk space. time to pull out one of the disk visualizer utilities and find out what is the culprit
[14:43] <Luigi2012SM64DS> Corpus I'm just saying but Im running lubuntu on a 10 gb partition
[14:44] <semajnad> Does anyone know what the permission would be to let a specific user have read write and execute permissions?
[14:44] <semajnad> What number would that be?
[14:44] <faugusztin> CorpusCallosum: something like https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/natty/baobab/ could help you, see the 2nd screenshot
[14:44] <Con7e1> texas_214: Can you try to run "sudo apt-get install intel-linux-graphics-installer" ?
[14:45] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: what graphics card do you have?
[14:45] <DrGrov> How big difference is themes in 13.04 and 13.10 with GTK 3.6 and 3.8 respectively?
[14:45] <Con7e1> texas_214: Tell me if it works and what it does
[14:45] <Luigi2012SM64DS> semajnad: semajnad
[14:45] <Luigi2012SM64DS> faik
[14:45] <DrGrov> Trying to find some new theme
[14:45] <UrielVigilant> in Lubuntu, where it goes the icon of the installed app to let us runs it ? i installed playonlinux, but i cant see the icon to start it ! the only solution is typ the name Playonlinux on Run ?
[14:45] <DrGrov> Sorry if OT
[14:45] <Luigi2012SM64DS> semajnad: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_Permissions_and_Attributes#Changing_permissions_using_the_chmod_command
[14:45] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: Nvidia Quadro4 580 XGL
[14:46] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: and you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[14:46] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: No I did not touch the drivers at all after installing
[14:47] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: I think lubuntu installs nouveau drivers by default
[14:47] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: there should be a "software and updates" programs somewhere - find that and click the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[14:47] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: but they do not accelerate for me. And the drivers on nvidias website are for xorg 1.12
[14:47] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Still here? How did it go?
[14:47] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: Ubuntu in general installes nouveau by default
[14:47] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: ive looked there is nothing there
[14:48] <tcstory> who can speak chinese?
[14:48] <kelt_> hello, could anyone help me? im trying to install alsa drivers
[14:48] <CorpusCallosum> faugusztin, i think i found that. thanks for the application i created custom iso ve relinux. normally i deleted the iso but there some mirrors in  dot file folders which were hidden
[14:48] <kelt_> i have ubuntu 12.04, installed realtek hd drivers but having issues with alsa
[14:48] <Luigi2012SM64DS> kelt_: Alsa should be installed by default
[14:49] <kelt_> how do i start it? because alsamixer isnt here
[14:49] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: Yep, no drivers avalible
[14:49] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, i finally got usb-creator-gtk running, i'm prepping the usb now
[14:49] <kelt_> when i'll type "alsa" in main panel nothing shows up
[14:50] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, i finally got usb-creator-gtk running, i'm prepping the usb now
[14:50] <kelt_> homever im sure i installed realtek drivers correctly
[14:50] <elisinventordgre> hello room
[14:50] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Ok, keep me updated
[14:50] <kelt_> anyway im following this: http://www.linwik.com/configuring_the_audio_and_updating_alsa_for_ubuntu_12.04
[14:50] <texas_214> con7e1 one second had to attend something but im running it now
[14:50] <Luigi2012SM64DS> kelt_: sudo apt-get install alsamixer?
[14:50] <elisinventordgre> what is the discussion in this room
[14:51] <BluesKaj> Luigi2012SM64DS. alsa-base alsa-utils
[14:51] <kelt_> Luigi2012SM64DS: cant find alsamixer packet
[14:51] <jonascj> Hi all. I have booted to the 12.04 desktop live cd, installed lvm2, created a pv, vg and some lv's. Then I started the installer from within the live cd and choose /dev/vg0/root as / (ext4) and  /dev/vg0/home as /home (ext4) and proceeded with the install. After completion I cannot boot to the newly installed Ubuntu 12.04 desktop.
[14:51] <Luigi2012SM64DS> kelt_: what BluesKaj said
[14:51] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: 64-bit?
[14:51] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: 32
[14:52] <jonascj> What can I do to debug this? It's probably something with the bootloader
[14:52] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/48996/en-us
[14:52] <kelt_> ok you were right, it's installed and working..
[14:52] <texas_214> con7e1 E: Unable to locate package intel-linux-graphics-installer
[14:52] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: Added support for X.Org xserver versions 1.11 and 1.12.
[14:53] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: I have the latest lubuntu with xorg 1.13
[14:53] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: the upside is you'd be running supported nvidia driver - the downside is you'll need to reinstall after every kernel update - you might look into dmks to avoid that but I've never gotten it working...
[14:53] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: I would try that driver anyway
[14:54] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: you will probably need to blacklist nouveau
[14:54] <Junka> ubuntu is so heavy :(
[14:55] <kelt_> whew im so happy this damned alsamixer is working afterall.. now fastboot drivers
[14:55] <Con7e1> texas_214: What about "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel" ?
[14:56] <UrielVigilant> Junka: people say Lubuntu is lighter, iam testing Lubuntu 13.10 on usb persitent, but i want a test it soon in a low spec pc of a friend of mine , with around 300 mb of ram
[14:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: I HAVE tried it once. After messing around with x servers and finally got it working everything seemed to work but the resolution was messed up. And i couldnt use xrandr for some reason
[14:56] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: this is an older computer, yes?
[14:56] <Junka> UrielVigilant, I tested, there are some bugs that are annoying
[14:56] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: of couse
[14:57] <UrielVigilant> Junka: real?
[14:57] <ZeThomas> Junka, like what?
[14:57] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: ok - well I think your best course of action is to get the nvidia driver working if you want acceleration working anywhere
[14:57] <yeats> Luigi2012SM64DS: nouveau won't cut it :-)
[14:58] <Junka> when i open a video with big resolution like a 720p it does not fit my screen
[14:58] <texas_214> con7e1 Reading package lists... Done
[14:58] <texas_214> Building dependency tree
[14:58] <texas_214> Reading state information... Done
[14:58] <texas_214> xserver-xorg-video-intel is already the newest version.
[14:58] <texas_214> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[14:58] <FloodBot1> texas_214: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <texas_214>   nautilus-sendto printer-driver-min12xxw printer-driver-pnm2ppa
[14:58] <yeats> !pastebin | texas_214
[14:58] <Luigi2012SM64DS> yeats: Ahh ill try it again
[14:58] <UrielVigilant> ZeThomas:   Junka said, when i open a video with big resolution like a 720p it does not fit my screen
[14:58] <Luigi2012SM64DS> maybe things have changed
[14:59] <Junka> yeah that it on every lubuntu release
[14:59] <texas_214> my bad . Im very sorry. wont happen again
[14:59] <ZeThomas> Junka, Luigi2012SM64DS, this is an annoyance in gnome mplayer, I have found
[15:00] <ZeThomas> Junka, Luigi2012SM64DS, vlc in lubuntu scales video nicely
[15:00] <Con7e1> texas_214: http://pastebin.com/e1DJRYx8
[15:00] <Razkin> What is the EXACT release date of Ubuntu 14.14?
[15:00] <texas_214> con7e1  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347392/
[15:01] <yeats> !14.04 | Razkin
[15:01] <Junka> ZeThomas, if i use lubuntu I use it because i lack hardware. VLC shutters if i do not have enough cpu power, and if I have I would not bother with lubuntu
[15:01] <Con7e1> texas_214: try executing one line at a time in the terminal
[15:01] <Con7e1> texas_214: tell me if error occur
[15:01] <jonascj> I have looked at the directory structure created on /dev/vg0/root and it contains boot and boot seems to contain all the required vmlinuz but /boot/grub is empty apart from a text file gfxblacklist.txt
[15:02] <Razkin> !15.15
[15:02] <texas_214> ok one second
[15:02] <Razkin> !14.14
[15:02] <yeats> !msgthebot | Razkin
[15:03] <ZeThomas> Junka, what is your alternative for lightweight? xubuntu? I have good experience with crunchbang also..
[15:04] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Crunchbang is awesome, too bad I had a lot of problems with my keyboard
[15:05] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, damn, now you make me hesitate to put #! on my laptop instead of upgrading my lubuntu...
[15:05] <Junka> ZeThomas, I can;t decide yet. I am jumping from distro to distro. I am finding openbox very boring configuring the menu
[15:06] <chiel> hi guys, i have a line like this in my /etc/fstab: `192.168.2.2:/volume1/blackhole   /mnt/bh   nfs   defaults,hard,bg   0   0`, but it doesn't seem to be mount
[15:06] <chiel> is there any way to run fstab again, someho?
[15:06] <yeats> chiel: 'sudo mount -a'
[15:06] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Sorry, but had a lot of pain in the butt with it because it didn't want my keyboard. Which is odd, since on Elementary OS runs perfectly
[15:06] <chiel> ah, thanks
[15:06] <ZeThomas> Junka, you are right there... anybody experience with xubuntu?
[15:06] <gordonjcp> !anyone | ZeThomas
[15:07] <chiel> yeats: works now, is there any reason why this wouldn't run properly on boot?
[15:07] <yeats> chiel: try rebooting and see if it's mounted
[15:07] <chiel> hmm alright, will check
[15:07] <gordonjcp> chiel: possibly because the network wasn't up?
[15:08] <chiel> hmm, network should've been up, but i did just reboot the nas.. so perhaps not available or so, ill try a reboot and see if it gets mounted properly now
[15:08] <chiel> ty
[15:08] <Con7e1> texas_214: any news?
[15:08] <UrielVigilant> ZeThomas: Kobalt said in this forums,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1273594  , "..... Re: xubuntu vs. crunchbang
[15:08] <UrielVigilant>  Crunchbang is a lot lighter than XFCE (Xubuntu, to be correct). It's actually more minimalistic.
[15:08] <texas_214> con7e1 yeah i got error on last line ,im about to post it up
[15:09] <gordonjcp> UrielVigilant: have they got past the obsession with tiny pixelly grey-on-grey fonts yet?
[15:09] <chiel> mounted proper now, thanks guys, must've rebooted the htpc too soon so it didn't see the nas yet
[15:09] <texas_214> con7e1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347449/
[15:10] <gordonjcp> chiel: I have a funny feeling that the two numbers at the end are something to do with the order in which fstab is read
[15:11] <chiel> gordonjcp: oh, could well be, i'm pretty new to this stuff, i just got this from a mate :)
[15:12] <Con7e1> texas_214: try doing this:
[15:12] <Con7e1> texas_214: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:12] <Con7e1> texas_214: and paste to me what it's in that file
[15:14] <falematte> \join #bu,blebee
[15:14] <falematte> \join #bumblebee
[15:14] <FloodBot1> falematte: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> falematte  it's the other slash
[15:17] <texas_214> idk if i did some thing but it doesnt show anything , I mean it opened  the program if thats what you call & it gave me options but nothing to select
[15:17] <kelt_> is there anyone familiar with android fastboot drivers ?
[15:17] <texas_214> con7e1 ^^^
[15:18] <kelt_> i was following this guide to install it, everything done properly but the device is not detected in fastboot mode
[15:18] <kelt_> http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/245-ubuntu-precise-install-android-sdk
[15:18] <texas_214> con7e1 *idk if i did it right
[15:18] <kelt_> homever it's detected in "normal" mode in qtadb, and also in adb
[15:18] <Con7e1> texas_214: yeah, it seems that it isn't in that directory
[15:18] <groleo> kelt_: is the device in fastboot mode ?
[15:19] <kelt_> groleo: yes
[15:19] <groleo> kelt_: also, try running fastboot with sudo
[15:19] <texas_214> yup
[15:19] <texas_214> *con7e1 ^
[15:19] <groleo> kelt_: you also want to check lsusb
[15:20] <kelt_> groleo: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0bb4:0fff High Tech Computer Corp. Android Fastboot Bootloader
[15:20] <kelt_> homever i noticed, the ID has changed
[15:20] <Con7e1> texas_214: what about sudo nano /etc/xorg.conf ?
[15:21] <groleo> kelt_: so, in this case, check your udev rules
[15:21] <Marlenee> anyone here can use cssh AKA cluster SSH i need some help .
[15:21] <Con7e1> texas_214: even better, this should do:
[15:22] <kelt_> groleo: changed udev rule and it seems to be working now, thanks
[15:22] <groleo> kelt_: welcome
[15:23] <Con7e1> texas_214: Try this command and tell me what happens: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:25] <tirta-lalondong> Actually how can i activate apache symbolic link
[15:25] <tirta-lalondong> i don't really get the clue on the site.
[15:25] <tirta-lalondong> i'm newbie to Ubuntu
[15:25] <texas_214> con7e1 i did not get anything back
[15:25] <semajnad> Can someone give me a hand with directory permissions please?
[15:26] <kelt_> ok another question, i have apt: link in firefox homever there is no application i can open it with
[15:26] <kelt_> software center is installed, but i cant choose it
[15:26] <kelt_> apt://wine1.5 to be precise
[15:27] <Con7e1> texas_214: Post to me the content of the /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d directory. Do this: "cd /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d" and then "ls". Paste to me what u see
[15:28] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: news?
[15:30] <texas_214> con7e1 sh: 3: cd: can't cd to /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d
[15:30] <texas_214> might be in another folder?
[15:30] <meway> anyone know how to get minecraft to work?
[15:30] <Con7e1> texas_214: what about "sudo nano /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d" ?
[15:31] <tirta-lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 and how to enable apache for symbolic link
[15:31] <meway> I looked up how to on google but it doesn't work or I'm confused cause I have a newer version of ubuntu
[15:32] <Luigi2012SM64DS> so who was the one who as just helping me with graphics card problems?'
[15:32] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, usb-creator-gtk ran fine, so it should work, i am rebooting now
[15:32] <texas_214> con7e1 thank you for the help but i have to urgent matters that just came up so i must leave . ill be on later... didnt mean to waste your tiem or nothing but something urgent came up
[15:32] <Con7e1> texas_214: No problem, that's life.
[15:33] <sara_> I have a major issue with the display manager. when i log into my asus k53u running ubuntu 13.10 I have a black screen with no curser.
[15:33] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: Ok, hope it works.
[15:33] <Con7e1> sara_: try "nomodeset" option when you boot at the grub menu
[15:33] <Con7e1> sara_: it seems like u don't have the right video drivers yet
[15:34] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | sara_ for some details
[15:34] <sara_> Con7e1: it was working fine before and havent changed anything other than installing TOR
[15:35] <sara_> Con7e1:  the splash screen is ok, its just after logging in the "fun begins"
[15:35] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, nothing... I will try with a different usb stick
[15:35] <tirta-lalondong> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10 and how to enable apache for symbolic link
[15:35] <meway> Hello can somebody Help me install minecraft? I have wine installed, tried to install some icetea java app and looked up how to on google but everything I find seems to be out dated.
[15:35] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: I think that's one possible solution. I don't think every program is bugged, more likely is your USB.
[15:36] <Con7e1> sara_: did you update something?
[15:36] <xofaw> heelo
[15:36] <ZeThomas> Con7e1, what is weird is that it worked with the very same key only a few hours ago... can something that i did have permanently 'broken' it???
[15:37] <heed> heedy he
[15:37] <heed> hidey ho
[15:37] <cloudgeek> how to open port 35357 on ubuntu
[15:37] <Luigi2012SM64DS> GUys i'm having problems installing nvidia drivers for my graphics card
[15:37] <Luigi2012SM64DS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6347590/
[15:38] <Con7e1> ZeThomas: No, it's very unlikely. One thing you could do is grab a Windows PC and run that .exe I told you. If that doesn't work, it's or your USB or something with your BIOS
[15:38] <DrGrov> How is themes built for Ubuntu 13.10 and GTK 3.8? Could there be conflicts in displaying themes on a general way? Sorry if off-topic.
[15:38] <zykotick9> Luigi2012SM64DS: using nvidia.com's driver is a bad idea....  us Ubuntu's nvidia driver, if at all possible...
[15:38] <Luigi2012SM64DS> ahh fuck it i don't need this
[15:39] <Con7e1> Luigi2012SM64DS: well, seeing that /var/log/nvidia-installer.log file would help
[15:39] <ZeThomas> too late, he rage-quit... understandable, with nvidia :)
[15:39] <xofaw> i wanted to install ubuntu from harddrive on a macbook. i tried with unetbootin on a special partition but after grub cfg changes it didnt boot. I also dd'ed the iso file to a directory previous made in /boot but get error message: file not found disk not found load kernel image
[15:39] <xofaw> what to do
[15:40] <toafan> xofaw: out of curiosity, what did you expect dd'ing the iso to do?
[15:40] <xofaw> booting the iso from grub2
[15:41] <toafan> xofaw: ...why would it do that?
[15:41] <xofaw> toafan: after i adjustet 40_custom of grub
[15:41] <xofaw> toafan: it should load
[15:42] <xofaw> i want to reinstall the system i have on my macbook
[15:42] <xofaw> i can only boot in recovery mode
[15:42] <xofaw> normal mode is fcked up
[15:43] <xofaw> well
[15:43] <xofaw> any ideas?
[15:43] <xofaw> ts precise pangolin
[15:43] <xofaw> *its
[15:45] <xofaw> i tried alrdy with the options: acpi=off / nomodeset
[15:45] <xofaw> they wont change any of my results
[15:45] <jitu> can anyone help me with weblogic & CXF?
[15:45] <bekks> !anyone | jitu
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> jitu  start with a question
[15:48] <xofaw> does anyone know how i can reinstall a broken ubuntu on a macbook wout usb and cd
[15:48] <jitu> I am new to WebService. When I  tried to deploy a CXF war in weblogic 12c I got this exception - javax.xml.ws.WebServiceException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Cannot create URL for this address soap.udp://239.255.255.250:3702.
[15:49] <bekks> xofaw: pxe boot
[15:49] <toafan> xofaw: I just wouldn't expect grup to boot a iso file.  Did you update grub back when you changed it?
[15:49] <ikonia> jitu: are you trying to deploy it directly into a managed server or from the admin server into the managed server
[15:49] <jitu> I am not able to understand whats the problem is?
[15:50] <jitu> @ikonia from admin server
[15:50] <h00k> xofaw: you could do a net install, if that's a possibility
[15:50] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone know why libboost isn't working in 12.04.3? I'm getting the following error when trying to play SMC. Initialization: Exception raised: boost::filesystem::directory_iterator::construct: No such file or directory: "/usr/share/games/smc/campaign"
[15:51] <ikonia> jitu: is the managed server listening on the address ?
[15:51] <h00k> ubottu: netinstall | xofaw this may help
[15:51] <bekks> ubottu: libboost is working fine - smc is missing a file.
[15:52] <jitu> no its not listening on 239.255.255.250:3702. actually i've not specified that address anywhere. managed server is listening on port 9001
[15:52] <xofaw> akrdy checked out
[15:52] <ZeThomas> guys, i can't boot from a usb stick, i don't know what's going on... I tried 2 different sticks, I tried unetbootin and usb-create-gtk, i don't know what to do...
[15:52] <ikonia> jitu: ok, so it's likley that address appears to be built into the war
[15:53] <ikonia> jitu: so I would investigate that war, as it looks like it's trying to start a service at deployment as part of the activation.
[15:53] <vlad_112> s
[15:53] <bekks> jitu: thats a multicast address, isnt it?
[15:53] <jitu> ikonia: yes
[15:53] <Wobbo> How to find the current screen-settings (example: 1920*1080 to 1080*1920) and make it the default setting.
[15:53] <ikonia> jitu: yes what ?
[15:53] <jitu> its multicast address
[15:54] <ikonia> jitu: are you running weblogic as a multicast cluster ?
[15:54] <xofaw> ISO booting with Grub2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[15:54] <jitu> yes
[15:54] <ikonia> jitu: come on then !!!
[15:54] <ikonia> jitu: you've not setup the cluster correctly.
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> Wobbo, desktop settings
[15:55] <jitu> ikonia: but when I tried with an simple application , it's woking perfectly
[15:55] <ikonia> jitu: yes, but CXF isn't a simple web service
[15:56] <Wobbo> Yes, to make de desktop setting the default.
[15:56] <jitu> So, where do u suggest i shall look for the problem?
[15:56] <xofaw> ZeThomas: ur bios may not allow usb bootin
[15:56] <Crimson> Hello
[15:56] <ikonia> jitu: another thing to consider is the ubuntu firewall, could be blocking the creation of the url for distribution to the managed servers, especially if it has a hardcoded port
[15:57] <ZeThomas> xofaw: it allowed usb booting a few hours ago...
[15:57] <Wobbo> I am using xserver-xorg-video-ati
[15:58] <xofaw> zethomas: what system do u try  to boot?
[15:59] <ZeThomas> xofaw: lubuntu 13.10 iso from a clean fat32 formatted drive
[15:59] <xofaw> zethomas: does unetbootin finish its work remarkably fast?
[15:59] <xofaw> Zethomas: i mean like finished in 10seconds
[16:00] <ZeThomas> xofaw: no, it takes a while; also all files seem to be present on the drive, my os reads it just fine
[16:02] <Con7e_> ZeThomas: Did you grabd another USB?
[16:02] <ZeThomas> Con7e_, yes i did
[16:03] <ZeThomas> Con7e_, it installed fine, but my bios doesn't recognise that one either...
[16:13] <b80905> help me: ls /dev/audio produces
[16:13] <b80905> ls: cannot access /dev/audio: No such file or directory
[16:14] <kostkon> b80905, and?
[16:15] <b80905> kostkon: where should i find the audio device
[16:15] <kostkon> b80905, what are you trying to do
[16:15] <Guest6381> hi to everyone... some help how enable my wlan0 to monitor mode? chipset 8812au ( usb sitecom WLA 7100 )
[16:15] <b80905> kostkon: cat lol.mp3 > /dev/audio
[16:16] <kostkon> b80905, don't think there is a way to do it like that, but you could try with aplay or paplay:  paplay path_to_file
[16:18] <bl4ckdu5t> how do I update a package
[16:18] <bl4ckdu5t> I want to update my php to a higher version and I don't know how I'll just do that
[16:19] <thnee> bl4ckdu5t: you want to update to a version that is not the official ubuntu repos?
[16:20] <bl4ckdu5t> ye
[16:20] <bl4ckdu5t> yea
[16:20] <bl4ckdu5t> I got php 5.3.10 from ubuntu repo
[16:21] <thnee> bl4ckdu5t: well you could check if there is some ppa that has it. But I would just install it from source from php.net
[16:21] <bl4ckdu5t> and I need to upgrade to php5.5
[16:21] <thnee> why do you need that_
[16:21] <thnee> ?
[16:21] <bl4ckdu5t> so I can use more functions included in php5.5
[16:22] <thnee> you could try this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[16:22] <bl4ckdu5t> and I keep being told that I'm using an old version
[16:22] <lukodiablo> hi guys... someone can help how enable wlan0 for monitor mode? chipset 8812au ( model usb sitecom WLA 7100 wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-7100 )
[16:22] <Lars_G_> Hello,.
[16:22] <thnee> he has packaged 5.5.5
[16:22] <jmgk> hi
[16:22] <jmgk> hoo
[16:22] <bl4ckdu5t> Thanks thnee
[16:22] <jmgk> np
[16:22] <Lars_G_> Does anyone have more information on this issue with 12.04 and xenserver? http://askubuntu.com/questions/126631/why-do-i-get-disk-i-o-errors-booting-the-3-2-kernel-on-a-xen-vps-server
[16:23] <thnee> bl4ckdu5t: np :) I just googled "php ppa"
[16:23] <bl4ckdu5t> oh! hehe
[16:25] <fmedina> hello
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> Could anyone offer any thoughts about tihs laptop regarding compatibility with ubuntu?
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> http://www.emag.ro/laptop-asus-cu-procesor-intel-174-core-small-sup-tm-sup-small-i7-3632qm-2-20ghz-ivy-bridge-4gb-750gb-intel-174-hd-graphics-free-dos-matte-smoky-black-k55a-so708d/pd/DQV2JBBBM/
[16:26] <fmedina> is there a channel for php?   the php channel seems invite only
[16:26] <fmedina> other suggestions?
[16:26] <thnee> fmedina: are you registered with nickserv?
[16:26] <Wiz_KeeD> just register you nickname, should work
[16:26] <fmedina> cool
[16:26] <Wobbo> How to change the desktop setting, alredy at login?
[16:27] <Jeroi> hello
[16:28] <Bio615> howdi
[16:28] <thnee> Wiz_KeeD: try googling "asus k55a ubuntu"
[16:28] <Jeroi> I have huge problems with ubuntu desktop boot
[16:28] <Con7e> IRC is so damn confusing. It's like beeing in public.
[16:28] <Wiz_KeeD> will do thee
[16:28] <Jeroi> Firstly I instaled nvidia latest
[16:28] <Jeroi> then Amarok
[16:28] <Jeroi> then Knversation
[16:28] <thnee> Wiz_KeeD: otherwise I recommend thinkpads, they have great linux compatibility
[16:29] <Jeroi> Thunderbirs 5 emails
[16:29] <Jeroi> Then I started to hassle with system font.conf
[16:29] <Jeroi> I installed Arimo fotn
[16:29] <Jeroi> and replaced in font.conf Sans with Arimo
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> thnee, that's lenovo right?
[16:29] <Jeroi> then I sun some update command for fonts
[16:29] <ggherdov> how come that on my ubuntu 12.04 I get zero results for `apt-cache search trac` while the trac package do exist for 12.04 http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/trac ?
[16:29] <Wiz_KeeD> lenovo thinkpad
[16:30] <thnee> indeed
[16:30] <Jeroi> run*
[16:30] <Jeroi> then I wanted to reboot to see xorg changes
[16:30] <Martinjo84> The 40 series of lenovo is coming in a few days :D
[16:30] <thnee> ggherdov: apt-get update?
[16:30] <Jeroi> but for my misery bootup fails to "stopping save kernel messages"
[16:31] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD. well , looks fine ., dual gpu optimus system to muck things up
[16:31] <Jeroi> I then used live usb binded my linux drive folder as system folders and removed nvidia*
[16:31] <BluesKaj> no dual gpus
[16:31] <Jeroi> re installed xorg-conf
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it has optimus BluesKaj ??
[16:31] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to avoid :D
[16:31] <BluesKaj> no it doesn't
[16:31] <Jeroi> and now my linux boot hangs in samller window loading screen wihtout any messages...
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why I liked it, and since I do coding and never games or rendering, it's the perfect laptop
[16:32] <BluesKaj> it's intel onboard graphics
[16:32] <Wiz_KeeD> Just linux compatibility
[16:32] <mrafiq> how to access desktop in terminal
[16:32] <Jeroi> gdm restart
[16:32] <BluesKaj> should be fine , Wiz_KeeD
[16:32] <mrafiq> when ever i tried to access the desktp via terminal it gives no sucn directory exists
[16:33] <mrafiq> i type cd/home/Desktop
[16:33] <ggherdov> thnee: i did `apt-get update`. Either I have a custom /etc/sources.list, either it's voodoo (it a dedicated server, I didn't set it up myself)
[16:33] <bl4ckdu5t> sorry for this weird question but I just forgot where the sources.lst file is located
[16:33] <mrafiq> can any body help me
[16:33] <Random832> mrafiq: you need your username
[16:33] <bl4ckdu5t> where can I find it?
[16:33] <Random832> mrafiq: or type cd ~/Desktop
[16:33] <lukodiablo> hwo to enable wlan0 for monitor mode ( driver 8812au model usb sitecom WLA 7100 http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Sitecom_WLA-7100 )
[16:33] <thnee> ggherdov: obviously if you modified sources.list this will affect it
[16:33] <Random832> bl4ckdu5t: /etc/apt
[16:33] <Random832> and i tihnk there's a sources.list.d now
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> BluesKaj, last one had the optimus crap and other issues with it, still trying to return it
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> never again shall I touch that optimus crap
[16:34] <mrafiq> \i have also typed my user name as cd/home/mrafiq/desktop
[16:34] <BluesKaj> Wiz_KeeD. ahh
[16:34] <Wiz_KeeD> Satan's tool I tell you...
[16:34] <Random832> mrafiq: you're being sloppy in typing in chat, are you this sloppy on the command line? Desktop is capitalized, and you need a space after cd
[16:35] <bl4ckdu5t> thanks
[16:35] <mrafiq> i also did so by typing Desktop
[16:35] <mrafiq> thank you i have acced my desktop
[16:37] <ggherdov> how different is this http://paste.debian.net/63518/ from a "sane" sources.list for ubuntu precise ?
[16:37] <lukodiablo> where i can get the right mac80211 driver for my card?
[16:37] <DrGrov> Anyone in here speak fluent German and could help with an app I want from a PPA? The instructions I need to translate somehow. Not sure if it is for 64-bit or not.
[16:38] <thnee> ggherdov: here is mine http://paste.debian.net/63519/
[16:38] <mrafiq> how can i start tor
[16:38] <ggherdov> thnee: thanks
[16:38] <thnee> ggherdov: from 13.10 (upgraded from 13.04)
[16:39] <niez> hi, how can I make bootable usb using linux?
[16:39] <niez> i have ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> Niedar: inetbootin
[16:39] <thnee> niez: just dd it onto the device
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> Niez^
[16:39] <niez> hitsujiTMO, didn't work
[16:40] <niez> thnee, didn't wor too
[16:40] <mrafiq> how to start tor in ubuntu
[16:40] <zykotick9> thnee: cat or cp, is easier then dd IMO.  niez
[16:40] <thnee> "didnt work" is not an acceptable problem description
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> niez: what exactly didn't work? how didn't it work?
[16:40] <niez> zykotick9, tried cat, also doesn't work
[16:40] <zykotick9> !doesntwork
[16:40] <thnee> niez: you are most likely doing it wrong
[16:41] <niez> ok, i'll give you eror message, but i'll need to make this usb stick one again
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> niez: if you're not doing it wrong, then you've the pc set up wrong
[16:41] <mrafiq> how to setup tor browser in ubuntu
[16:41] <zykotick9> niez: do you know the device of your USB?  /dev/sdb for example.
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> niez: you should check the hash of the iso file too
[16:42] <niez> ok, i'm making it once again, trying with dd...
[16:42] <GingerGeek> Hi, I'm writing a script and I have a logic understanding problem: https://gist.github.com/GingerGeek/7280848 Am I missing something, I execte the script with bash ScriptName.sh - Note that this is a logic test after I had an issue with a larger script Im writing
[16:42] <niez> oh, yes, first md5
[16:42] <GingerGeek> *execute
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> niez: what is the exact command you're using to dd?
[16:43] <thnee> GingerGeek: I fail do see an actual question
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> GingerGeek: #bash is a more suitable place to ask that question
[16:44] <Marlenee> anyone here can use cssh AKA cluster SSH i need some help .
[16:44] <thnee> !ask
[16:46] <niez> whare can i find checksum for ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:46] <new0> wow, just finish this reading. awesome :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[16:46] <thnee> niez: in the place you downloaded it...
[16:46] <niez> ?
[16:47] <niez> thnee, i have only .iso file, downloaded form web page
[16:47] <thnee> what web page?
[16:47] <zykotick9> !md5sums | niez
[16:48] <niez> ubuntu.com
[16:48] <niez> great, thanks!
[16:48] <niez> that should be somwhere on download page!
[16:49] <Wobbo> Can anyone help me hou to change the default desktop screensetting, to make sure new users having the right setting? My settings are good, how can I copy that setting... but where is that setting? lol
[16:50] <lukodiablo> please help.. how i can enable my 8812au for monitor mode? i guess i have run differend driver bud dont know which mac80211 driver have choice...
[16:50] <bekks> Wobbo: For copying it, you have to create a new user first.
[16:50] <enen92> hey there, I've ubuntu 12.04 installed but my wifi drops connection randomly. Once it goes out I only get the connection again after rebooting the machine. Any hints on how to trace the problem?
[16:50] <enen92> found in the web the solution is to downgrade openssl and libssl
[16:50] <enen92> how can I do that?
[16:50] <bekks> enen92: You dont want to do that, because of security fixes, etc.
[16:51] <enen92> ok so what options do I have
[16:51] <enen92> ?
[16:51] <enen92>  Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10)
[16:51] <enen92> this is my wifi controler
[16:51] <pfifo> hello world
[16:52] <enen92> or there is any way I can reboot the wifi without rebooting the pc?
[16:53] <GingerGeek> thanks hitsujiTMO Im there now
[16:53] <GingerGeek> thnee: the question was how do I get the expeted output
[16:56] <thnee> GingerGeek: then I would like to see an explanation of why, if you can't boil it down further
[16:56] <Lars_G_> Does anyone have more information on this issue with 12.04 and xenserver? http://askubuntu.com/questions/126631/why-do-i-get-disk-i-o-errors-booting-the-3-2-kernel-on-a-xen-vps-server
[16:56] <babinlonston> Hi Installed Wordpress in a Hosting  , i have installed in a directory wp , how to access my site using www.example.com
[16:57] <babinlonston> always its  opening as www.example.com/wp
[16:57] <bekks> babinlonston: So which Ubuntu are you running on your server?
[16:58] <yeats> babinlonston: does http://localhost/wp work?
[16:58] <babinlonston> bekks: its Ubuntu  12.04
[16:58] <pfifo> GingerGeek: because your setting the value of i at the start of the for loop, try making an 'oldi' value that gets set to i at the beginning, and then at the end of the for loop make i=oldi
[16:58] <babinlonston> yes its works
[16:59] <yeats> babinlonston: you can add something like '127.0.1.2 www.example.com' to /etc/hosts?
[16:59] <GingerGeek> pfifo, thnee: Thanks for help but I've sorted it now!
[16:59] <babinlonston> k
[17:00] <pfifo> GingerGeek: usually its a bad idea to use a recursive function though, you might want to redesign
[17:00] <hitsujiTMO> babinlonston: so you installed it to a folder wp so you have to access it thru example.com/wp    but you want to access thru example.com/       maybe not put it in that folder wp?
[17:00] <GingerGeek> pfifo: This is my first Bash Script ever, but thanks for tip
[17:00] <babinlonston> hitsujiTMO: u understood me :)
[17:02] <new0> how to ps -aux for specific program?
[17:02] <pfifo> new0: 'ps aux | grep specific\ program'
[17:02] <zykotick9> new0: fyi it's "ps aux" the - is an error, in this case.  see the top of your current output for confirmation.
[17:03] <DrGrov> Is 13.10 known as Saucy?
[17:03] <bekks> Yes.
[17:03] <zykotick9> !13.10
[17:03] <yeats> new0: 'ps aux' OR 'ps -elf' no dash on the first variant
[17:03] <thnee> ps auxww :)
[17:03] <new0> zykotick9, i noted that. pfifo tnx ps aux | grep apache2?
[17:04] <new0> can i have some link like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:04] <Frank81> new 0
[17:05] <Frank81> you don't need that now i answer you ubuntu related stay cool
[17:06] <ozbrk> ok guys I installed xubuntu and it shines like sun but I have a video problem with the internet
[17:06] <Frank81> you do following "chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/"
[17:06] <ozbrk> I can't watch videos because of the lagging
[17:06] <Frank81> then you can go into /etc/apache2/sites-aviable/000-default is the default host you can edit it and make it catch all host
[17:06] <new0> Frank81, right tnx
[17:07] <fa485> Hello
[17:07] <Frank81> and simply copy it to add new vhosts
[17:07] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: Sometimes the browser freezes, right?
[17:07] <Frank81> then after that do a2ensite /etc/apache2/sites-available/testsite.com
[17:07] <ripthejacker> or is it just the buffering problem?
[17:07] <Frank81> and after that sudo service apache2 restart
[17:07] <Frank81> to make the changes take effect
[17:08] <new0> chown -R www-data:www-data www/ is that good too?
[17:08] <Frank81> not good
[17:08] <ozbrk> ripthejacker first question how can you write it like that and second one is an answer
[17:08] <ozbrk> nope
[17:08] <Frank81> since your www root is /var/www
[17:08] <niez> ms5sum is ok: ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso: OK
[17:08] <ozbrk> I just can't watch videos and it's hard to surfing into the heavy websites like facebook
[17:09] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: write like what?
[17:09] <ozbrk> red
[17:09] <bekks> ozbrk: So which CPU and how much RAM do you have?
[17:09] <mojtaba> Hi, I have run firefox and another program via command line. with the jobs command I can see the list. Is there any command related to jobs which can help me to kill one of the jobs?
[17:09] <new0> Frank81, ok. if u can, wait. i need one step at the time. first i do chown -R www-data:www-data ~/home/www/ ?
[17:09] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: It's probably your irc client , I am writing plain text
[17:09] <Frank81> nope
[17:09] <thnee> mojtaba: look into bg, fg, jobs
[17:10] <pfifo> ozbrk: when someone puts 'ozbrk' into a line of text you IRC client makes it red so you can spot it easilly
[17:10] <Frank81> ./home/www
[17:10] <thnee> mojtaba: for killing use ps auxww|grep firefox, killall, pkill, kill, etc
[17:10] <Frank81> isn't existing normaly
[17:10] <mojtaba> thnee: There is no man entry for jobs!
[17:10] <Frank81> ubuntu standart apache www dir is /var/www
[17:10] <Frank81> nothing else
[17:10] <ozbrk> 'ripthrjacket' likethat
[17:10] <ozbrk> nope
[17:10] <ozbrk> :S
[17:10] <ozbrk> whatever
[17:10] <FloodBot1> ozbrk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: use tab completion on names
[17:11] <ozbrk> guys  I have 2 GB Ram and an asus eee r101
[17:11] <thnee> mojtaba: try google
[17:11] <zykotick9> !tab
[17:11] <ripthejacker> ozbrk: bekks had asked you a question, Maybe he has some solution
[17:11] <Frank81> and that don't means /home/user/var/www
[17:11] <bekks> ozbrk: thats a very slow computer.
[17:11] <Frank81> it means /var/www
[17:11] <Calinou> ozbrk: eeePCs have slow CPUs. nothing to do agaisnt that
[17:11] <mojtaba> thnee: Thank you. Best answer.
[17:11] <ozbrk> thats why I'm using xubuntu
[17:11] <bekks> ozbrk: xubuntu will not make your CPU faster.
[17:11] <ozbrk> I sloved all other problesm except this
[17:11] <Frank81> apache on ubuntu is not configured for running user sites maybe you should install something like webmin
[17:11] <Calinou> no OS will
[17:12] <bekks> ozbrk: It is that slow that you wont be able to use facebook without heavy lagging.
[17:12] <ozbrk> so you say I'm just hopeless :D
[17:12] <bekks> !webmin | Frank81
[17:12] <bekks> Frank81: Do not recoomend webmin please.
[17:13] <new0> Frank81, ok, i just did: sudo chown -R www-data:www-data ~/www/ and no change are made
[17:13] <ozbrk> bekks: ok what should I do
[17:13] <bekks> ozbrk: Get faster hardware.
[17:13] <thnee> mojtaba: you are welcome
[17:13] <pfifo> ozbrk: ditch firefox and try chromuim
[17:13] <pfifo> ozbrk: remove flash, its a resource hog
[17:14] <joe___> hey all -I've got windows installed on a first hard drive & I want to install 12.04 on a separate drive but gparted doesn't seem to show a mount point option anywhere for me set a root partition on this second drive...any ideas/
[17:14] <joe___> ?
[17:14] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:14] <ozbrk> pfifo: without flash I can't watch flash videos
[17:14] <ozbrk> simple locig
[17:14] <zykotick9> ozbrk: flash takes a lot of CPU power :(  1) are you using non-free flash version?  it's much faster then gnash  2) use the lowest quality available, does that help?  try youtube html5 at youtube.com/html5  - best of luck, i doubt anything will "solve" the problem, but something might improve it!
[17:14] <new0> Frank81, than what do i need to do?
[17:14] <ripthejacker> bekks: I wanted to know something similar, What is a good linux distro for an Windows User, with a netbook, RAM 1 GB, Intel Atom Processor 1.6 Ghz?
[17:15] <pfifo> ozbrk: drop flash from your eee and only watch flash on your fast desktop computer
[17:15] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:15] <new0> Frank81, ok. i just look at ur answer above. but my www is at my home folder
[17:15] <ripthejacker> Ubuntu is out of the question
[17:15] <hitsujiTMO> ripthejacker: try ##linux
[17:15] <bekks> ripthejacker: Then your question is offtopic in here :)
[17:15] <ozbrk> zykotick9: 1)adobeflash with opera   -  2)simply NO :)
[17:15] <ripthejacker> bekks: :P ok
[17:16] <Frank81> new
[17:16] <Frank81> then you don't installed ubuntu sorry
[17:16] <thnee> ripthejacker: why not ubuntu? you do realize you can install any GUI you want right?
[17:16] <ozbrk> maybe opera browser causes it
[17:16] <Frank81> then you probally installed apache your self?
[17:16] <aFeijo> folks, got a big problem in my ubuntu server... I run apt-get update -y and since then the cron isnt working properly, I have a php script running every 5 minutes, but its no longer working
[17:16] <Frank81> the standart apache ubuntu package makes no www root in your home
[17:16] <ripthejacker> you mean DE?
[17:16] <NTFS83> will kim kardashian save me from sins?
[17:16] <thnee> aFeijo: don't use PHP for that
[17:17] <aFeijo> thnee, hehe, not an option
[17:17] <new0> Frank81, no no. i did, but i change my htdocs to home/www location also by the sites-avalible/deafult
[17:17] <joe___> hey all -I've got windows installed on a first hard drive & I want to install 12.04 on a separate drive but gparted doesn't seem to show a mount point option anywhere for me set a root partition on this second drive...any ideas?
[17:17] <joe___> 
[17:17] <thnee> ripthejacker: whatever floats your boat
[17:18] <RealOpty> hello :)
[17:18] <thnee> joe___: do you see the parition that you want to install on?
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> joe___  what's the output of lsblk ? use pastebin
[17:19] <joe___> I can see the drive - and I can't create an ext4 partition etc - but I thought I'd have the options to define it as root etc?
[17:20] <NTFS83> DID KIM KARDASHIAN DIE ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US FROM SINS?
[17:20] <xofaw> joe___: try parted magic
[17:20] <pfifo> joe___: gparted dosent do that, you define it as root during the install process
[17:20] <new0> Frank81, ok. i had only one DIR at ~/home/www/site and i can see it on my localhost. but the other DIRs i can't see. as i did ls -o the site have drwxrwxr-x and the others have: drwx
[17:20] <new0> Frank81, ok. i had only one DIR at ~/home/www/site and i can see it on my localhost. but the other DIRs i can't see. as i did ls -o the site have drwxrwxr-x and the others have: drwx------
[17:20] <niez> after using dd i get: (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[17:20] <joe___> weird as when I run the install and select the ext4 drive it says there's no root partition...
[17:20] <matrei> quit
[17:21] <NTFS83> DID KIM KARDASHIAN DIE ON THE CROSS TO SAVE US FROM SINS?
[17:21] <bekks> !ot || NTFS83
[17:21] <pfifo> !repeat | NTFS83
[17:21] <thnee> omg what is it with some people in this channel
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> où
[17:22] <LjL> !ops | NTFS83 seems like this is the usual person
[17:22] <pfifo> niez: what wrong?
[17:22] <xofaw> joe___: have you tried to isntall with custom settings and partitioned ur drive urself
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> thnee  with some people in general, so here too
[17:22] <NTFS83> ljl your an op so you ban me
[17:23] <LjL> (sorry, i mean, *obviously* this is the usual person)
[17:23] <xofaw> NTFS83: ure dunk go somewhere else
[17:23] <NTFS83> !ops | ljl spammer
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> NTFS83  you've had our attention, now go back to mommy and ask some hot milk
[17:23] <joe___> just partitioned in gparted...
[17:24] <jmgk> heh Monkey
[17:24] <wdonkey> hello, i want to make a backup image of a system on a usb stick, what are my options (needs to be easy)
[17:25] <pfifo> joe___: gparted is a partitioning tool. it dosent install ubuntu
[17:25] <bekks> !backup | wdonkey
[17:25] <joe___> I was trying to create the root partition the 12.04 installer asks for -
[17:26] <bekks> joe___: you need to assign a partition for /
[17:26] <pfifo> joe___: gparted can do that (create a partition) but to use it as root you will have to tell the installer to use it as root
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> joe___  no, create a partition with gparted, then assign it to / during installation
[17:27] <RealOpty> xofaw, i was going to ask the room for a ubuntu server guide for seting up a redundant website.
[17:27] <Chat8991> Hi
[17:27] <ozbrk> ok guys I can't buy a new netbook
[17:27] <RealOpty> I have 6 VPS boxes
[17:27] <joe___> I shall go back to drawing board and try again. Thanks all
[17:27] <ozbrk> I can't upgrade to a new cpu
[17:27] <bekks> ozbrk: a new netbook is the only option to speed up things.
[17:28] <new0> Frank81, ok got it. sudo chmod 775 file and now i can see it in file listing on brower, but i just did it for one DIR and now i can see them all. weird.
[17:28] <new0> how can i connect to mysql?
[17:28] <bekks> new0: by using the "mysql" application.
[17:29] <grendal-prime> grrrrr.
[17:29] <grendal-prime> i cannot get nicserve to work
[17:29] <ozbrk> bekks:  I don't have much money for that
[17:29] <bekks> ozbrk: Then you have to live with the current situation.
[17:29] <new0> bekks, tnx. is there a guide for commands?
[17:29] <bekks> new0: "mysql" is the command.
[17:30] <new0> bekks, right. now it's the mysql queies. tnx
[17:30] <bekks> new0: you will find a full blown mysql documenation on www.mysql.com
[17:30] <pfifo> ozbrk: I would remove flash, and use the lightest browser available. If you have to watch a flash video, download the video and play it with mplayer or some other video player that your system can run properly. If your so addicted to flash that you absolutly must have it, buy a new computer that can run it
[17:30] <byllgrim> so mad
[17:31] <new0> bekks, tnx
[17:31] <byllgrim> "im sick of fighting with linux. ill install ubuntu. thatl probably be pretty streamlined because of the fuckload of users"
[17:31] <bekks> !language | byllgrim
[17:32] <byllgrim> oh, family friendly. sorry
[17:32] <byllgrim> does that mean my message didnt arrive?
[17:32] <pfifo> byllgrim: 99% of freenode is
[17:32] <bekks> byllgrim: It arrived, otherwise I wouldnt have read it.
[17:32] <pfifo> byllgrim: not sure what your asking though
[17:32] <xofaw> byllgrim: you dont fight with linux. you just havent figured it out yet
[17:33] <byllgrim> yeah, i just havent figured it out yet
[17:33] <new0> how can i fix that errror on boot: ta_id[279]: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb': Invalid argument?
[17:34] <byllgrim> i just have to type in a lot of commands to fix my super huge cursors, that i now have because the installer wouldnt allow me to turn of handicaped mode
[17:35] <byllgrim> its nessesary to do such a simple task in a hard way because i havent figured out linux
[17:36] <psusi> new0, you mean ata_id?
[17:37] <byllgrim> having to use google to find a page on ubuntu.com, not because ubuntu.com is traded being retarded for user friendlyness, but because i havent figured out linux
[17:37] <new0> psusi, yes
[17:37] <psusi> new0, what kind of drive is sdb?
[17:38] <new0> psusi, i have External USB 1TB
[17:38] <byllgrim> as expected, this channel is flooded with "how do i fix..."
[17:38] <pfifo> most people dont come in to say everything is working right
[17:39] <Jeakle> pfifo <- +1
[17:39] <psusi> new0, well, it isn't hurting anything so you can just ignore it, or file a bug report
[17:39] <pfifo> but just for reference, im running 12.04 and 13.10 and both are operating 100%
[17:40] <psusi> new0, if you file a bug report it would be against the udev package
[17:40] <new0> psusi, well, it's not really bother. but i would want my system to load as fast as it can :)
[17:40] <new0> psusi, can u guide me?
[17:41] <psusi> new0, at filing a bug report?
[17:42] <intrader> Anyone, hitsujiTMO and I interacted last night about the failure of graphics to come alive at the end of boot of 12.04.3. However, I observed that the the an unfinished upgrade from 13.10 is the cause of the failure of 12.10.3 to finish coming up; a message from acpid: exiting\n\lUpgrading in progress... leads to believe that the problem for 12.04 was cause by 13.10
[17:42] <new0> psusi, not sure what u said but i guess so
[17:42] <new0> psusi, i want to solve it
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: a bit odd considering that it should not have touched your 12.04 install at all
[17:43] <psusi> new0, you can file a bug report at launchpad.net/ubuntu, but there isn't really anything to solve other than making the error message shut up
[17:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, you are awake - it is repeatable an perhaps worth pursuing.
[17:44] <psusi> not all usb drives report that information and apparently yours is one that does not... that's ok, it just shouldn't complain about it is all
[17:44] <new0> psusi, maybe i can tell my ubuntu to boot from the right location and load the system faster?
[17:45] <quest88> Is anyone running a laptop with 16GB+ ram and a SSD as their primary drive? If so, what laptop did you go with?
[17:45] <psusi> new0, what disk you are booting from and how fast is neither here nor there... the error message is just saying it couldn't query some esoteric information from that drive
[17:46] <wdonkey> is there some app to make a backup & recovery img of my system i could lunch out of a usb stick ?
[17:46] <new0> psusi, right so it's just a msg. ok tnx
[17:46] <wdonkey> there use to be one but im not sure anymore
[17:47] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, the 12.04.3 install went Ok - I worked on 12.04.3 for a while until I failed to restore tomboy's notes. I decided to look in 13.10, and booted 13.10 - found where tomboy notes are stored, made a copy, and then shutdown 13.10 to restart 12.04. Then 12.04 fails.
[17:47] <psusi> new0, right... the system is just trying to find out details about that drive when it is connected and complaining because it doesn't support some details
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: thats abit bizare ... a 13.10 install should not effect the 12.04 install at all.  How did you make the partition for 13.10?
[17:50] <ermac_> with x11vnc server in softcenter can someone else in another computer remote view me?
[17:53] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, you are awake and going!. In the meantime I considered reinstalling 12.04.3 on to of it after reading  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation. The install of 12.043. was done after 13.10 was shakily running.  The 12.04.3 install found space tor 12.04.3
[17:53] <thnee> quest88: can't go wrong with a thinkpad
[17:54] <Shinobi> I've got a dd image I can't mount because it can't read the last bock. Can I add a null block to the end somehow?
[17:54] <thnee> Harvt: normally you would need to install a program in order to use it
[17:54] <Harvt> thnee: if i want another person that is not in my network to remote me then i would ahve to port forward?
[17:55] <thnee> Harvt: obviously that depends on your network?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: doing such an install can lead to other problems, but it might be worth a try
[17:55] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, the history: upgrade 12.04 -->12.10-->13.04-->13.10. Troubles with 13.10 leads me to install 12.04.3.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: tbh, i'd almost try a clean install altogether ... get ridf of 13.10 and 12.04 and start from scratch
[17:58] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Sorry to disturb in the middle. You have any good guides on tweaking in Ubuntu related to CPU, fans and so forth?
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: install indicator-cpufreq
[17:58] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How would you do with fans otherwise? Change in the BIOS something or just leave it be?
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: never mess with the fan.
[17:59] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I thought of that route also. However, I tried restoring the tomboy notes from a backup and did not find in the backup on account of not being in the backup.
[17:59] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, will try indicator-cpufreq. It seems like the darn thing is not "slowing down" at all. It keeps running at maximum all the time. Noise wise at least.
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: is it definately the cpu and not the gpu generating the heat?
[18:00] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone I am trying ..bashrc and .~/.bashrc and both dont seem to work. says command not found . ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> drGrov: what gpu do oyu have?
[18:00] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I have a nVidia GT 620 1GB.
[18:00] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I think that 13.10 is shaky - problems with Eclipse, problems with garbled lines in Xchat and other applications, problems with android SDK, etc
[18:01] <anternat> is there a default irc client that comes in 12.04 server install?
[18:01] <trism> Vivekananda: you need a space between the first dot and the file you want to source
[18:01] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I doesn't seem to be the heat. It seems to be the overall noise level, gives a feel that it is running very hard somehow even though it is not using much CPU nor mem at all.
[18:01] <trism> Vivekananda: . .bashrc
[18:02] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, so my preference would be to install 12.04.3 destroying both 13.10 and 12.04. But first update th backup to contain the tomboy notes.
[18:02] <jmgk> hey Vivek
[18:02] <jmgk> Vivekananda,
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: normally for noise pollution like that i just buy a silent fan :P  but it's best to make sure that the cpu isn't on full... install indicator-cpufreq and you can manually set the cpu to its lowest speed. are you on the proprieTARY DRIVERS FOR THE GRAPHICS CARD AT ALL?
[18:04] <zero_coder> hello
[18:04] <zero_coder> my computer is freezing at times
[18:04] <zero_coder> i am runnning ubuntu 13.10
[18:04] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Yes, I am on nvidia-319-updates.
[18:04] <SPEEDWAVE> what date release of steam os? is that linux?
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: do you have an external drive that you can images the partitions too?
[18:05] <Vivekananda> trism: thanks. Also after this line in the bashrc -- export CATALINA_HOME=/media/Yojimbo/installationFiles/apache-tomcat-7.0.33/   I try $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh it says  --  bash: /bin/startup.sh: No such file or directory
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> DrGov, so at least you should have propper power management for the gpu at least. try playing with indicator-cpufreq so
[18:05] <apb1963> so I just had another system freeze... had to do a hard reboot.  ubuntu 12.04 with kde
[18:05] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Yes, just installed indicator-cpufreq. Will start it now to see.
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | SPEEDWAVE: try #steamos
[18:06] <Vivekananda> I guess I am not executing it by just typing that. right ?
[18:06] <kostkon> apb1963, avoid hard reboots, always REISUB
[18:06] <apb1963> kostkon: What is REISUB?
[18:06] <apb1963> well of course I'm going to try and avoid it...  but the system locked up.
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: you mey need to reboot for ti to show up in the systray
[18:07] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: It showed up without reboot. Started it from terminal.
[18:07] <Radkos> hello
[18:07] <trism> Vivekananda: can you pastebin the end of the bashrc so we can look at it?
[18:07] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: It is set to "ondemand" by default now.
[18:07] <Vivekananda> trism sure
[18:07] <apb1963> luckily I was able to open a virtual terminal briefly (you know, with function keys).
[18:07] <kostkon> apb1963, keep pressing left ALT + PRNT SCR and then R+E+I+S+U+B waiting 2-3 secs between presses
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Is there any easy way to add that indicator-cpufreq to run at startup when I log in to Unity?
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: set it to the lowest cpu freq and see if the fans start to slow down
[18:08] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, a use hard disk may have enough space. You are suggesting to backup the sda5 (13.10) and sda7 (12.04.3)partitions to the hard drive
[18:08] <apb1963> during that brief time I was able to start TOP... and see the load climb to over 30
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, I will set it to the lowest.
[18:08] <SPEEDWAVE> ubottu, uhmm... ok
[18:08] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, 'usb' instead of 'use'
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it will run on startup anyway
[18:08] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How long should it take for them to slow done?
[18:09] <apb1963> everytime I killed a process that was hogging the CPU, a different process would hog the CPU until I killed it.
[18:09] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah, it will keep itself there all the time. That is convinient :)
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: if you dd the partitions you can load them later with mount loop
[18:09] <apb1963> first I killed skype... then chrome.... then Libreoffice (soffice.bin)... the load kept climbing.
[18:09] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Nothing happens really. It makes all the noise anyhow. So it is not a cpu thing :)
[18:09] <t38> apb1963:  how's that VOIP working?
[18:10] <Vivekananda> trism: https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/7281753
[18:10] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, 'mount loop'?
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it should slow failrly quickly. depends on if your cpu is generating heat or not
[18:10] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: So I should keep it there for quite some time at the lowest?
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> drgrov you shjould have noticed somethign by now... any difference?
[18:11] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, learning something new every time that I read your stuff
[18:11] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: No, I already switched it to "powersave". No difference.
[18:11] <apb1963> then the system froze completely and even the keyboard didn't respond anymore... no numlock or capslock, mouse was frozen....  oh and... I use a clock as my screen saver... when I first looked at the screen this morning the clock was frozen... so now it returned to that screen all by itself and was totally locked.... that's when I did my power out/reboot.
[18:12] <apb1963> so to me, it kind of looks like it might be X related... I didn't have these problems until I installed kde desktop
[18:12] <apb1963> but then, DBUS is and/or was broken which we all know, right?
[18:12] <apb1963> t38:  that works fine, thanks for asking
[18:12] <kostkon> apb1963, or something kde related then
[18:13] <apb1963> t38: unfortunately... as you notice... I have other problems :(
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: might be an idea to get a new cpufan so then. might be an idea to have a look at lm-sensors to make sure the temps are ok: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto    but i'm presuming that the cpu fan is just too noisy
[18:13] <apb1963> kostkon: like DBUS?
[18:13] <kostkon> apb1963, dbus is DE agnostic
[18:13] <kostkon> apb1963, some kde process/app
[18:13] <kostkon> maybe
[18:14] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I hope so. I bought it yesterday this machine, completely built from scratch. The guy building has a 30 years experience with computers.
[18:14] <kostkon> apb1963, i know for example that akonadi was causing problems in the past, for example
[18:14] <apb1963> kostkon: well, everytime I reboot the network fails to completely start
[18:14] <trism> Vivekananda: it looks fine, so you sourced the bashrc first? or started a new shell
[18:14] <Guest48141> y'all I have a Seagate Hard Drive and while it shows up in disk utility it will not let me mount with the message "daemon is inhibited" what does that mean?
[18:14] <ozberk> guys I installed chromium and it sloved a lot of problem but still thre is one little thing I can't login to chromim
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> the fan that came with the processor might not be intended for workstation use considering that its a xeon processor. so hopefully swapping that out should be ok
[18:15] <ozberk> it refreshes the page :S
[18:15] <apb1963> kostkon: I do have akonadi running yes
[18:15] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, that is feasible if I find the space in the drive. The drive currenly backs up an Windows XP drive
[18:15] <domann> hello
[18:15] <zero_coder> domann, hi
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> intrader:  boot the live cd and come back to us then. i'll give you the dd instructions then
[18:16] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, otherwise, I need to create a new backup that contains the tomboy files and all the rest I need to save
[18:16] <Vivekananda> trism: I changed bashrc and restarted it
[18:16] <apb1963> kostkon: so how do I get this fixed?
[18:17] <ozberk> anyone who now how can I login to chromium :S
[18:17] <pfifo> ozberk: you need a google id or gmail or youtube account to login to chromium
[18:17] <ozberk> pfifo
[18:17] <ozberk> I have to pm
[18:17] <Vivekananda> then went to Home/ and tried to execute the startup but I guess I am doing the startup thing wrong. dont I need --- sh $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh  instead of just  $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh ?
[18:17] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, first find the room in the drive... then I have a business lunch and I will be back at about 3PM CA time. THanks for your help and knowledge
[18:17] <kostkon> apb1963, you'll have to find out which proc is hogging your cpu, using tools e.g. like htop
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: np
[18:18] <pfifo> ok i guess
[18:18] <trism> Vivekananda: the problem seems to be that CATALINA_HOME isn't set, based on the error message you get
[18:18] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How expensive would fans like this be then for a Xeon?
[18:18] <ljunggren> how do i know what driver im using right now? gpu i mean
[18:19] <trism> Vivekananda: try: . ~/.bashrc; then run: echo $CATALINA_HOME;
[18:19] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I wonder if I could even ask them to switch it for free since I paid much for the machine?
[18:19] <apb1963> kostcon: luckily I was able to open a virtual terminal briefly (you know, with function keys). during that brief time I was able to start TOP... and see the load climb to over 30  everytime I killed a process that was hogging the CPU, a different process would hog the CPU until I killed it. first I killed skype... then chrome.... then Libreoffice (soffice.bin)... the load kept climbing. then the system froze completely and even the keyboard didn't respond
[18:19] <apb1963> anymore... no numlock or capslock, mouse was frozen....  oh and... I use a clock as my screen saver... when I first looked at the screen this morning the clock was frozen... so now it returned to that screen all by itself and was totally locked.... that's when I did my power out/reboot.
[18:19] <apb1963> so to me, it kind of looks like it might be X related... I didn't have these problems until I installed kde desktop
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: not very. just look for a silent one with a decent brand
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: it's alway worth a try
[18:20] <Linuxlou> hello
[18:20] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Can I change it even by myself?
[18:20] <semajnad> wafflejock: hey are you there?
[18:20] <Radkos> I've tried to configure ubuntu 12.04 to sleep after a period of time I set (5 min. etc.) but from System settings > Power didn't get to sleep, however trying to schedule with cron didn't make it too. Running it manually are making a miracle or closing a lid too but how can I schedule that task. Is there known problem with a cron (I've tried with reinstall too, reinstall the whole system didn't help as well since from live session it's working). user's setting
[18:20] <Radkos> s isn't the reason, so what may be the reason? can you help me with that? Note: this laptop isn't available to me by now so if you can just navigate me with a solution(s) I can try it later
[18:21] <semajnad> Anyone here able to give me a hand with file permissions?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: its easy enough to change. just have to be careful that you turn the catches the right way and that it locks in propperly when you swap in the new one.
[18:21] <semajnad> I'm getting an access denied error.
[18:21] <OmegaVII> w
[18:21] <apb1963> semajnad: Provide more info.
[18:21] <killmachine> hi
[18:21] <dreamy_> have i got voice?
[18:22] <Vivekananda> trism: trying now!
[18:22] <Doink> ¿ ʇᴉ xᴉɟ ᴉ op ʍoɥ uʍop ǝpᴉsdn sᴉ ʇxǝʇ ʎɯ llɐ puɐ nʇunqn pǝllɐʇsuᴉ ʇsnɾ ᴉ ǝuoʎɹǝʌǝ ᴉH
[18:22] <apb1963> so now I'm running MINT
[18:22] <kostkon> dreamy_, ?
[18:22] <apb1963> Doink: hahah... cool  can't read it... but cool
[18:22] <Radkos> :D \
[18:22] <Radkos> Doink how i can configure that :D
[18:22] <Radkos> awesome
[18:23] <semajnad> apb1963:  I have a user called admn001 and a user called net001. Net001's home directory is called net001 and I need admn001 to have read right and execute permissions to it.
[18:23] <Doink> dn pǝssǝɯ llɐ sʇᴉ snɔ ɔd ʎɯ ǝsn ʇuɐɔ ᴉ snoᴉɹǝs ɯᴉ oN
[18:23] <kostkon> Doink, hmmm
[18:23] <Jeakle> apb1963: Doink's text is upside down.
[18:23] <kostkon> Doink, dont believe you
[18:23] <Radkos> did you saw that issue from live session or it was different
[18:23] <semajnad> apb1963: I've put them both in a group called 001, then given net001's home directory permission of 770. I thought this would work as they are both in the same group, but when I CD net001 it says permission denied.
[18:23] <apb1963> Jeakle: Yes, I see that
[18:23] <Doink>  ʇnʍ ʇᴉɐʍ
[18:24] <bekks> apb1963: So you are running Mint currently?
[18:24] <dreamy_> im running an unsuported version of ubuntu, can i install software?
[18:24] <Random832> apb1963: he's using unicode characters from exotic sections of the Latin Ext B and IPA Extension sections to simulate upside-down writing.
[18:24] <bekks> Doink: Stop it please.
[18:24] <Radkos> yes you can
[18:24] <Ziber> Everytime I run apt-get, I encounter issues with my mysql server, leading me to reinstall it. There has to be some fix for this, right? http://pastebin.com/Dwu8WpDg
[18:24] <apb1963> semajnad: chgrp 001 <files>
[18:24] <Vivekananda> trism: thanks that got it to work. Can see my homepage now
[18:24] <apb1963> Random832: Interesting... I've never seen those characters
[18:25] <apb1963> bekks: Yes I am
[18:25] <Radkos> so can someone help me with my issue
[18:25] <semajnad> apb1963:  will that provide permissions for the admn001 user to execute net001's files?
[18:25] <bekks> apb1963: Then you'd have to ask the mint support about a solution for your issue.
[18:25] <kostkon> Ziber, apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5
[18:26] <Furai> exit
[18:26] <apb1963> bekks: I was running kde when my system froze,... i'm running mint BECAUSE my system froze, in an attempt to narrow down the problem.
[18:26] <dreamy_> i know that i cant run apt, but maybe i could compile
[18:26] <bekks> !mint | apb1963
[18:26] <apb1963> bekks: stop trying to pass the buck
[18:26] <Ziber> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/71imvWTn
[18:26] <semajnad> apb1963: I'm not sure I understand...
[18:27] <bekks> apb1963: I just informed you about the fact to not expect any help in here.
[18:27] <apb1963> semajnad: if you do an ls -l you'll see that the files have both an owner and a group
[18:27] <apb1963> bekks: I didn't ask for help with mint.  stop talking.
[18:28] <semajnad> apb1963: So do I needd to set the files group to the group that admn001 and net001 are in?
[18:28] <bekks> apb1963: You arent the person to tell me when I have to stop talking. Another thing you should realize. And for not getting annoyed by you anymore: ignore set.
[18:28] <kostkon> Ziber, the simplest thing you could try is to clear your cache, and try to apply the update again i.e.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:28] <apb1963> semajnad: in some way shape or form, they all have to be in sync
[18:28] <zero_coder> hello
[18:28] <apb1963> yay
[18:28] <krz> what yall use instead of skype?
[18:28] <zero_coder> my os is getting unresponsive at times for a couple of seconds
[18:28] <zero_coder> especially firefox
[18:28] <semajnad> apb1963:  Ye i thought setting the directory and subdirectory to 770 would do it but apparently not :P
[18:28] <kostkon> Ziber, without sudo in your case
[18:29] <apb1963> krz: something SIP related
[18:29] <krz> apb1963: be specific
[18:29] <apb1963> krz: I use sflphone and sometimes zoiper
[18:29] <Ziber> kostkon: I think I figured it out for now, but I'll do that if I run into the problem again. Thanks.
[18:29] <apb1963> semajnad: still missing one piece of the puzzle
[18:29] <kostkon> Ziber, ok np
[18:30] <semajnad> apb1963:  so how come when I'm logged in as admn001 and I use chmod 770 -R /home/net001 does it not let me enter net001 anymore on admn001?
[18:30] <ljunggren> is there any difference between downloading and installing gpu drivers from amd website and enable fglrx-updates ?
[18:31] <apb1963> semajnad: I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "enter net001"
[18:31] <semajnad> apb1963:  as In cd to it
[18:32] <Tomfoolery> i'm having some issues with my sound preferences, on my user sound isn't working at all, but if I use guest user the sound is fine. I'm struggling to figure out how to fix it, anyone got any advice?
[18:32] <zero_coder> hello  , can anyone help?
[18:32] <bekks> zero_coder: Depends on your specific issue.
[18:32] <semajnad> apb1963:  Okay so if I'm understanding correctly. Take admn001 and net001 and put them in a group called 001. Then assign the files in net001 to the group 001 and admn001 should then be able to interact with them?
[18:32] <zero_coder> bekks : applications are freezing at tikmes
[18:32] <zero_coder> times*
[18:33] <apb1963> semajnad: yes
[18:33] <zero_coder> bekks : especially firefox
[18:33] <bekks> zero_coder: Does it happen on sites using flash only?
[18:33] <zero_coder> bekks : nope.
[18:33] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, open your home folder, press ctrl+h, delete the .pulse folder, log out, log back in and then try to configure your sound again in the sound settings
[18:34] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ok cheers, let me give that a go
[18:34] <zero_coder> bekks, besides most of the applications are also facing the same problem , but its less frequent , and for a shorter time only
[18:34] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, It seems I don't have a .pulse folder
[18:34] <semajnad> apb1963:  Thank you very much for your help, I'll give that try.
[18:35] <apb1963> semajnad: sure
[18:35] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, using ubuntu or some other flavour?
[18:35] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ubuntu
[18:35] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm, did you press ctrl+h or select edit -> view hidden files from the menu?
[18:36] <Tomfoolery> It brought up my hidden folders
[18:36] <krz> what mouseless games are good these days? i like realm of the mad god, before it sold out to kabam
[18:36] <krz> any others?
[18:36] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yeah. Try opening the sound settings
[18:37] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, k, they're open
[18:37] <zero_coder> bekks ??
[18:37] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, do you see any devices listed there
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963:
[18:38] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, my output can either me digital output or headphones, is that what you mean?
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963: Sorry, when I do that, then I jail the user to the directory /home/net001/001 it then doesn't let me log into ftp
[18:38] <semajnad> apb1963:  do you know why this might be>?
[18:39] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yeah ok
[18:39] <krz> well?
[18:40] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, try every possible configuration, try every device, port, etc and see if that will change anything
[18:40] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, already done before hand sadly. It's only with this user I have the problem with. Guest user has no problems
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, you aren't logged in as root, are you?
[18:41] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, no
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, ok
[18:41] <sedeki> where is xorg.conf on ubuntu 13.10?
[18:41] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, maybe pastebin:  lsb_release -a  and   ps -A | grep pulse
[18:41] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, I found some solutions on the ubuntu forums but I'm really really bad at understanding how to use terminal and that's what the solutions utilise
[18:42] <Tomfoolery> ok
[18:42] <zykotick9> sedeki: not used/created by default.
[18:42] <sedeki> zykotick9, what's in /usr/share/X11/corg.conf.d?
[18:42] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, actually i find it strange that you don't have a .pulse folder
[18:43] <zykotick9> sedeki: asking me is useless ;)  i doubt there is anything there by default either?!
[18:43] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, well, I've never deleted any of my hidden folders or even looked at them before
[18:43] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, but yeah you could try checking your volume levels and state of your switches in alsamixer. open a terminal and give: alsamixer
[18:44] <apb1963> semajnad: What is it yo're trying to accomplish?  What is your end goal?
[18:45] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, press F5 to view everything, also F6 to view all the available devices you can configure
[18:45] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, I'm not familiar with what it's meant to look like. All the numbers are "00" should I manually change them to fix it?
[18:45] <zykotick9> sedeki: sorry, perhaps i misunderstood - i thought you where asking what is in my xorg.conf.d directory (i'm not on ubuntu, thus my useless reply).  xorg.conf.d is used for "snippets" to config Xorg (it's the modern replacement for xorg.conf)
[18:46] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, press left right arrows to go through them, then the up down arrows to chage the levels, yeah 00 is bad, try increasing it
[18:47] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, depends of the volume, if it is an volume level for an output channel try increasing to 100
[18:47] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, oh ok, my bad,  maste ris actually at 100
[18:47] <kostkon> type of*
[18:47] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, check all the channels
[18:48] <Tomfoolery> "headphone" does have a number and won't allow me to change it
[18:48] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm
[18:49] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, This will be the problem. Because I play my music through my speakers, which is what I'm assuming it means by headphones
[18:49] <Tomfoolery> I disabled the master manually in the tower
[18:49] <semajnad> apb1963: This pastie should explain at the top what i want to achieve, and the commands I've used to achieve it. If you wouldn't mind taking a look and telling where I go wrong I'd be very grateful.http://pastie.org/8450765
[18:49] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, what have you done exactly
[18:50] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, oh I did this when I first built my computer. I couldn't turn off sound coming fromt he tower so I just unplugged it because I wanted to use my speakers
[18:50] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, so the tower speaker isn't connected to anything
[18:50] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, you mean the pc speaker?
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> Yes
[18:51] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, oh ok. that isn't considered a audio device nowadays
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> oh ok then, so master could still be referring to my speakers?
[18:51] <Tomfoolery> hmm
[18:52] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, yes. master volume
[18:52] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, sorry for my lack of knowledge. My dad installed ubuntu for me, I'm not exactly... computer savvy
[18:53] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, np
[18:54] <semajnad> apb1963: Hopefully that makes sense :P
[18:55] <anonymous> f
[18:55] <bootloop_> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and whenever I hit shutdown my system reboots.  I cannot get it to power off.  Wat do?
[18:57] <adamu> bootloop does 'sudo shutdown -h now' work?
[18:58] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, ok, I found a fix here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143157 (second to last answer) that people agree works, but I don't have that file/directory when I type all of that in... am I being dense?
[18:58] <krz> assuming ive got all my applications closed. is there a "safe" way to shut down in the terminal without having to use the mouse to shutdown via the menu on the top right?
[18:58] <pfifo> krz 'exit' or ctrl+d
[18:58] <pfifo> krz: n/m read that wrong
[18:59] <apb1963> krz: shutdown -h now is what I use... or -r to reboot
[18:59] <pfifo> krz: i always shutdown my system from the command line, i use 'sudo init 0'
[18:59] <apb1963> semajnad: makes my head hurt
[18:59] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, when you type sudo cat /etc/default/speech-dispatcher ?
[18:59] <semajnad> apb1963:  Does the idea make sense?
[18:59] <krz> so sudo shutdown -h is fine?
[18:59] <semajnad> apb1963: Or is there a better way to do it.
[18:59] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, yes, that
[19:00] <apb1963> krz: "shutdown -h now" if you don't want to give any warnings... i.e. no other users
[19:00] <semajnad> apb1963: Basically, very simply I need net001 to be able to run MCMA2_Linux_x86_64 somehow, while not having access to command line. But also net001 needs to be locked to his home directory in FTP which is /home/net001
[19:00] <krz> what is -h?
[19:00] <adamu> krz:   -h     Halt or power off after shutdown. (man shutdown)
[19:01] <Doink> -h now
[19:01] <bootloop_> adamu: it shuts me down but the system still auto-reboots
[19:01] <apb1963> semajnad: When you talk about locking to directories, chroot comes to mind... apparently there's some kind of newfangled jk_jailuser and other associated commands none of which I've ever used.
[19:01] <bootloop_> so, it's no different than just hitting the shutdown button in ubuntu
[19:01] <Doink> bios settings
[19:02] <Doink> you have a bios setting that
[19:02] <adamu> bootloop: do you have multiple operating systems installed does this happen with other ones maybe it is something in the bios
[19:02] <Doink> reboots on power back
[19:02] <krz> kk so sudo shutdown -h now is safe ya?
[19:02] <semajnad> apb1963:  I did look into chroot, but in the end this method seemed to work, just not when I put them other user in the picture. I've found a way to lock them to the directory, but the problem is the login details for FTP still let them log into something like Putty. Can you think of a way around this?
[19:02] <bootloop_> adamu: no, this is a brand new system I just put together about an hour ago.  No other operating systems besides Ubuntu 13.10
[19:02] <bekks> Doink: There is no such bios setting, since that would make it impossible to power off a computer.
[19:02] <krz> just the same way as doing it from the menu on the to right?
[19:02] <semajnad> apb1963:  I just can't have the FTP user getting command line access.
[19:02] <Doink> omg
[19:03] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, actually, do the cmd: ps -ef | grep pulseaudio  give you 3 lines of output?  when changing users do you log out first or you just use the menu in the upper right to select users
[19:03] <Doink> i have in my bios
[19:03] <pfifo> semajnad: you could set his shell to /bin/false
[19:03] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, does the command*
[19:03] <delinquentme> has anyone gotten ubuntu 12.04 up and running installed on a lenovo IdeaPad ?
[19:03] <semajnad> pfifo:  That's true, the only issue is that I need to run a executable in his home directory
[19:04] <semajnad> pfifo: So don';t I need command line access to do that? Or can you do it some other way?
[19:04] <bootloop_> adamu: any other ideas?
[19:04] <adamu> bootloop: I would check in the bios then
[19:04] <delinquentme> I keep having these silly startup issues on this lenovo  Y510P
[19:04] <pfifo> semajnad: how is he running it now if he dosent have command line?
[19:04] <bootloop_> adamu: what should I be looking for?
[19:05] <Doink> bootloop_, cycle power and enter bios, search for power on boot / reboot after power fail ,, something like this
[19:05] <Doink> chage it to not boot after power off on
[19:05] <adamu> bootloop: as Doink said look for power on after power fail
[19:05] <semajnad> pfifo: This is all just theory at the moment I'm trying to work out how to do this before I hand it over to him. Theres an executable in net001's home directory that i need to run, without letting net001 have SSH access
[19:05] <usuario> hola
[19:05] <apb1963> semajnad: personally I don't see a way to avoid giving the user command line access unless he's running a restricted shell.  Maybe someone else can think of something.
[19:06] <apb1963> semajnad: If you just want to restrict ssh access, that's different from not giving him command line access.
[19:06] <pfifo> semajnad: so how are you proposing to get the file to run?
[19:06] <Doink> page 3 on dells
[19:06] <semajnad> pfifo: That's my issue. apb1963 Can you stop a user using ANY commands except 1?
[19:07] <apb1963> semajnad: If I only needed to run one command, I would probably make that command his shell.
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: All I need them to be able to do is ./MCMA2_x86_64
[19:07] <eer> Is there an upper limit of RAM for Ubuntu? I mean is the more the better or is there a limit where it doesn make sense to add more RAM.
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: His shell?>
[19:07] <semajnad> apb1963: This sounds promising :P What does that mean?
[19:07] <bootloop_> Doink:  I figured it out.
[19:07] <bootloop_> Doink:  it was a setting called "Wake on LAN"
[19:07] <Doink> cool
[19:07] <pfifo> semajnad: why dont you just run it for him, it is a server after all, you could start it from rc.local or something
[19:07] <Doink> yer that will do it
[19:08] <Doink> lol
[19:08] <bootloop_> Thanks for the help Doink  and adamu
[19:08] <bootloop_> I appreciate it
[19:08] <semajnad> pfifo: That's true, but whenever i've given another user permission to read/write/execute his files, it stops his FTP access for some reason :/
[19:08] <Doink> yw
[19:08] <apb1963> semajnad: yah.  Instead of /bin/false or /bin/ksh or whatever, just change his shell to /home/user/MCMA2 whatever
[19:08] <adamu> bootloop: np
[19:08] <semajnad> apb1963: So what would that do exactly?
[19:08] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, It give me 4 lines and I use the menu
[19:08] <apb1963> semajnad: but I'm not sure what that would do to ftp access
[19:08] <lukodiablo> guys... where i can find mac80211 driver for usb 8812au ( sitecom WLA 7100 )
[19:09] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, hmm could you paste it on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:09] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, There's a special way to copy things from terminal right?
[19:09] <apb1963> semajnad: because now you've restricted to that one program... running ftp...  I think that requires a normal shell of some type
[19:09] <kostkon> Tomfoolery, select the text with your mouse, right click and select copy
[19:09] <pfifo> semajnad: setting his shell to it would require him to be looged in iver ssh constantly
[19:10] <Tomfoolery> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6348688/
[19:10] <semajnad> pfifo: Can I set a users home directory to a folder in someone elses home directory?
[19:10] <Doink> !buddha
[19:10] <Doink> The Buddha once said. "A wise man knows nothing and talks little about it."
[19:10] <apb1963> semajnad: the shell is just a program that runs.. ksh, csh, tcsh, sh, bash... .... change that program - the shell - to the program you want.
[19:10] <pfifo> semajnad: no not a good idea
[19:11] <Doink> infinite loops
[19:11] <pfifo> apb1963: how do you keep the program running upon logout though? mcma is server software
[19:11] <PhonicUK> pfifo, using screen
[19:11] <semajnad> apb1963: pfifo I'm really stuck on how to do this haha can another use be allwoed to run an executable in another users home directory?
[19:12] <apb1963> pfifo: oh, I didn't know that was a requirement.  the requirements keep changing.
[19:12] <semajnad>  Hey PhonicUK  :P This is whith MCMA. I'm stumped ;)
[19:12] <pfifo> PhonicUK: how do you run screen without giving shell access?
[19:12] <PhonicUK> eh?
[19:12] <PhonicUK> how are you starting it in the first place?
[19:13] <apb1963> semajnad:  of course... but you're asking for more than that apparently.
[19:13] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Right, basically. I'm setting up a server for someone. They need to have FTP access to the folder with MCMA in. So they can upload files. But I don't want them having command line access. So I need a way to run MCMA installed in this other users home directory, if that makes sense.
[19:13] <PhonicUK> right, so what's the problem?
[19:13] <pfifo> semajnad: I would make an initscript to start mcma
[19:14] <mal10c> anyone know how to use ubuntu nautilus to browse files on iphone via bluetooth?
[19:14] <PhonicUK> semajnad, use the users crontab
[19:14] <PhonicUK> semajnad, http://wiki.phonicuk.com/Start-McMyAdmin-automatically-on-server-boot-Linux.ashx
[19:15] <semajnad> PhonicUK:  Does that mean I can block the users SSH access with usermod net001 -s /bin/false but still run MCMA automatically?
[19:15] <PhonicUK> yes
[19:15] <semajnad> PhonicUK:  If this works, I'll love you forever. Let me go off and try it ;)
[19:17] <eer> Is there an upper limit of RAM for Ubuntu? I mean is the more the better or is there a limit where it doesn't make sense to add more RAM?
[19:18] <bekks> eer: Technically, its somewhere in the region of 16EB or something.
[19:18] <PhonicUK> lol
[19:19] <pfifo> whats recommended amount of swap with 16eb of ram?
[19:20] <bekks> pfifo: depends on your requirements.
[19:20] <daftykins> pfifo: match it if you want to sleep/hibernate
[19:21] <pfifo> wonder how long it wold take to copy 16eb of ram to swap
[19:21] <apb1963> pfifo: depends on the speed of the disk
[19:22] <PhonicUK> and the speed of the controller, PCI-E bus, CPU...
[19:22] <apb1963> the disk is generally the slowest component
[19:22] <daftykins> ...and the award for most obvious statement go to apb1963!
[19:22] <DrGrov> 13.10, that message type of indicator. What does that actually refer to?
[19:22] <DrGrov> daftykins: Oh oh, can I also participate? I guarantee I have a good answer :)
[19:22] <apb1963> daftykins: thanks!
[19:23] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Okay, question then. Once i've done all that, and I've used the command usermod net001 -s /bin/false to block their access to command line SSH. How can I reverse that. Do you know?
[19:23] <pfifo> a 16eb external usb thumbdrive
[19:23] <semajnad> apb1963: same as above if you know please pfifo
[19:23] <PhonicUK> semajnad, replace /bin/false with /bin/bash
[19:23] <daftykins> DrGrov: there was only one award :( time taken being linked to speed was the winner already ;)
[19:23] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Excellent, thank you.
[19:23] <eer> Will Ubuntu perform better with 64GB RAM than with 32GB ?
[19:24] <DrGrov> daftykins: Daaamn yoooou... :( Well, let me know when you got another award coming up. I seldomly win anything :/
[19:24] <PhonicUK> eer, depends what you're doing
[19:24] <eer> PhonicUK, web surfing
[19:24] <PhonicUK> no.
[19:24] <DrGrov> eer: Definitely 64GB then.
[19:24] <PhonicUK> lol
[19:24] <eer> :P
[19:24] <DrGrov> eer: Without a question. Make it 128GB x 8 just to be sure
[19:24] <pfifo> eer: are you running out of memory?
[19:24] <PhonicUK> maybe if you were editing 4K video it would
[19:25] <DrGrov> eer: I just realized that I really did not need a Xeon processor, a i5/i7 would have been sufficient. But I still bought it. So, if you ask me. 64GB FTW! :)
[19:26] <eer> No, seriously. I want to run a few virtualbox instances, do web surfing, some web development, watch videos
[19:26] <pfifo> eer: you might get better performance by installing faster ram
[19:26] <DrGrov> eer: How fast is your RAM if I may ask, DDR3 I presume?
[19:27] <eer> Would 32GB suffice or should I go for a motherboard that supports 64GB?
[19:27] <delinquentme_> how do I get the lucid package version of this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libjpeg8
[19:27] <DrGrov> eer: It could be worth while later to have the option to upgrade to 64GB if you deem it necessary at a later stage.
[19:27] <pfifo> eer: having lots of ram helps out when running virtual machines
[19:28] <DrGrov> eer: pfifo Sorry for disturbing. Carry on.
[19:28]  * DrGrov runs to the forest
[19:28] <lukodiablo> someone knows where i can find driver mac80211 for my wireless RTL 8812au ?
[19:29] <apb1963> so now that there's more people here...  Anyone have any thoughts as to why my system periodically freezes up... or better yet, how to get it fixed?
[19:29] <bob__> does it freeze totaly or just get very slow?
[19:30] <eer> DrGrov, no the thing is that I want to build a new PC and I have some money to spend. I will be installing Ubuntu on it and I am trying to figure out what components I need. I build my last one in 2007.
[19:30] <apb1963> bob__: total freeze
[19:30] <sanspot_> Hoi|
[19:30] <apb1963> apb1963: I had to hard reboot
[19:30] <bob__> apb1963, try to see if you can ssh into it from another computer
[19:30] <bob__> apb1963, sometimes you can still get in that way
[19:30] <sanspot_> Looking for a movie but I'm new to IRC, anyone has an idea of how to do that?
[19:31] <apb1963> bob__: I had to hard reboot... and I don't have another computer currently... plus I've already rebooted it.
[19:31] <DrGrov> eer: Ok. Sorry for getting it wrong then in the beginning.
[19:31] <apb1963> bob__: I managed to open a VT ... ran top... the load  hit 30 when it finally froze completely
[19:31] <pfifo> eer: i would go for fast and expensive ram over cheap and plentiful ram. go with something you can over clock too, you likely will never need 32gb of ram, let alone 64, those amounts are more for servers than desktops
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, you can try checking /var/log/syslog for signs of trouble
[19:32] <daftykins> sanspot_: what do #ubuntu support channels, movies and IRC have in common? D:
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, and google what you see
[19:32] <bob__> apb1963, but random crashing is pretty hard to troubleshoot
[19:33] <tdn> Hi. I have just installed 13.10 on a new Dell E6430 laptop with nvidia NVS 5200M graphics. I have tried installing the proprietary drivers using additional drivers program (jockey). However, it does keeps being "Not in use". How do I utilize my Nvidia graphics card in 13.10?
[19:34] <daftykins> tdn: it's probably too old, you might have to stick to the default driver
[19:35] <eer> Does Ubuntu have any issues with SSD disks or can I buy any good one?
[19:35] <OerHeks> eer linux has no issues with SSD, so go ahead
[19:35] <apb1963> bob__: Yeah I know... and I have a variety of problems I've never gotten around to fixing when I added new ones by installing kde desktop
[19:35] <lukodiablo> how or where i can find mac80211 driver for chipset RTL 8812au ????
[19:36] <eer> OerHeks, thx
[19:36] <daftykins> eer: computers work to standards, a different OS won't stop an SSD working
[19:36] <daftykins> lukodiablo: google is your friend
[19:36] <DrGrov> eer: I am running 13.10 with a 120GB Kingston SSD. Works brilliantly.
[19:36] <apb1963> bob__: so there's no telling if the old is affecting the new, or unrelated...  just kind of overwhelmed with all the things I need to fix :/
[19:37] <RipresaTecn> join #sabayon
[19:37] <eer> Are SSD really that much fast than normal disks? Don have one, yet.
[19:37] <RipresaTecn> oops lol
[19:37] <daftykins> eer: if you get a good one you will be shocked
[19:37] <daftykins> your jaw will be sitting on the floor throughout the first hours of use
[19:37] <eer> daftykins, cool.
[19:37] <DrGrov> I did the Kingston 120GB for the Ubuntu 13.10 OS and a 1TB for home.
[19:37] <apb1963> bob__: I'm not sure if I still have dbus issues... sflphone was triggering a bug in dbus and crashing my system... but the developer says he made changes so as not to trigger the bug....   did he get them all?  who knows.
[19:38] <apb1963> bob__: dhcp client is busted...  my network config doesn't come up properly on reboot... blah.
[19:38] <eer> I can not put home on a different spinning drive. Because my entire system is encrypted.
[19:39] <delinquentme_> OK so R code base which is relying on a libjpeg8 for building of the r-base-core ... however I'm on ubunut 10.04 and I'm trying to locate where these packages are being sourced from
[19:39] <lukodiablo> daftykins:  :D yea... i keep my ey on google... but i didnt find nothing about 8812au and mac80211... by the way.. about mac80211 is there a lot... but nothing what can belong to my wireless
[19:39] <apb1963> bob__: nothing terribly obvious in syslog that wasn't there before kde desktop was installed.
[19:39] <tdn> daftykins, you mean a non-nvidia driver? That is horribly slow.
[19:39] <apb1963> bob__: I think it's X and/or dbus
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, lspci says:         Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, so I think it uses some intel card instead of the nvidia card.
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, how do I change it?
[19:40] <lukodiablo> daftykins: i am happy that my rt3573sta work in monitor mode... but the 8812au doesnt.. :(
[19:40] <tdn> daftykins, I should be able to use the official nvidia driver from nvidia.com, right?
[19:41] <daftykins> tdn: not if it's an ancient 5200
[19:41] <daftykins> tdn: they might've dropped support
[19:42] <tdn> daftykins, what? Ancient? This is a brand new Dell Latitude.
[19:42] <daftykins> "5200M" 0o
[19:42] <tdn> It appears to be from 09/2012.
[19:42] <daftykins> hang on did you typo 520M...
[19:42] <DrGrov> That little mail box I have in 13.10 sitting in the right corner up on the screen. How can I remove that?
[19:43] <hkan> hello, i have a serious problem with my graphics card driver on ubuntu, and I couldnt find anything that solves my problem on internet
[19:43] <pfifo> DrGrov: just put a piece of duct tape over it
[19:43] <hkan> I have a vaio which has this optimus thing
[19:43] <Shinobi> I have a link that shows perms 777 but the target has perms 700 is that normal?
[19:43] <hkan> I tried to turn back to default drivers of ubuntu but i blowed it
[19:44] <DrGrov> pfifo: No but seriously, I want to get rid of it. I do not use any of those instant messaging/e-mail stuff that it would show me.
[19:44] <ripthejacker> has anyone installed f.lux on Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:45] <pfifo> DrGrov: I remember removing all the stuff I didnt want by right clicking them and adjusting the settings or preferences, but im not running my 13.10 install right now so cant say exactly what todo
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, unity? I can google that for you eh.
[19:45] <ripthejacker> How do I install f.lux on Ubuntu 13.10
[19:46] <DrGrov> pfifo: No worries. I thought it could be done somehow. Googling as we speak for an answer.
[19:46] <PDilyard> is 30 GB enough for an ubuntu partition that i use for web development only?
[19:46] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, I am using the power of Google to find the solution. It is just mostly old posts thus far, eventually I will find an answer. Just thought I would ask around here, could be faster sometimes.
[19:47] <thnee> JacksonIsaac: Installation or the menu applet doesnt work well. I just run it from my .xinitrc
[19:47] <auronandace> PDilyard: sounds plenty
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Unity desktop?
[19:47] <thnee> ripthejacker: ^^
[19:47] <PDilyard> auronandace, thank you
[19:47] <jediael> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:47] <pfifo> ripthejacker: they have instructions it seems http://justgetflux.com/linux.html
[19:47] <ripthejacker> thnee: ?
[19:48] <thnee> ripthejacker: Installation or the menu applet doesnt work well. I just run it from my .xinitrc
[19:48] <ripthejacker> pfifo: not for 13.10
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Generally the help is attached to details, you said 13.10 this the unity desktop. ;)
[19:48] <tdn> daftykins, it appears that I have two graphics cards installed. It is using the wrong one. I might need something called bumblebeed(?) to make it work...
[19:48] <ripthejacker> pfifo: I get an error Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages
[19:48] <daftykins> tdn: yeah sounds like you have an nvidia optimus setup. good luck!
[19:48] <daftykins> !optimus
[19:49] <daftykins> ubottu you are useless on this matter
[19:49] <ripthejacker> thnee: the command line version?
[19:49] <hkan> My problem is written here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6348877/
[19:49] <thnee> ripthejacker: sure..
[19:49] <jediael> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:50] <thnee> ripthejacker: you could also try redshift
[19:50] <ripthejacker> thnee:  https://justgetflux.com/linux/xflux.tgz or https://justgetflux.com/linux/xflux-pre.tgz?
[19:50] <ripthejacker> thnee: have you tried both?
[19:50] <thnee> ripthejacker: I'm terribly sorry but I don't know the actual URLs from the top of my head
[19:50] <ripthejacker> one is dated 2009 and the other dated 2013
[19:51] <yeyeman> good morning #ubuntu
[19:52] <thnee> yeyeman: it's 9 PM :P
[19:52] <eer> Is it possible to put an encrypted Ubuntu LVM over a hardware RAID?
[19:52] <pfifo> eer: yes
[19:53] <yeyeman> thnee: yep that's right
[19:53] <semajnad> PhonicUK: I've done what you've said, and it's great, however when I CHROOT the user to a directory it won't let them log into FTP, I must be doing something wrong, can you take a look at this: https://bensmann.no/restrict-sftp-users-to-home-folder/ but I changed GROUP in the first part to USER and then skipped the two seconds about groups.
[19:53] <semajnad> PhonicUK: Sorry also meant to say yes MCMA is starting up on restart :D
[19:54] <eer> pfifo, What I want to do is the following. I will buy a brand new PC and I am trying to figure out what hw to buy. I want a fully encrypted Ubuntu (except for boot). This should run on a hardware fail safe RAID. Do all of the hard disks then have to be SSD?
[19:54] <PhonicUK> not right now sorry
[19:55] <pfifo> eer: no you can mix and match SSD and HDD on a raid, if you get a good controller it will take advantage of this too
[19:55] <zero_coder> hello , my cpu core temprature > 60 degree Celcius
[19:55] <zero_coder> what can i do about it?
[19:56] <pfifo> eer: the raidarray (if its truly a hardraid and not a softraid or fakeraid) should appear to ubuntu as a single drive that you can then use normal LVM on
[19:56] <semajnad> Who knows a good way to lock someone to a directory in FTP, I've got a user called mcsn01 and I want them to not being able to go any higher then /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft
[19:56] <bekks> zero_coder: clean the fans and coolers.
[19:56] <zero_coder> bekks : will that be reason , for freezing?
[19:56] <eer> pfifo, So I have to buy a RAID controller or is that usually on the motherboard? How do I install Ubuntu on this? Never did a RAID install.
[19:56] <zero_coder> and slowing down?
[19:57] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: what was your highest temp?
[19:57] <bekks> zero_coder: it may be.
[19:57] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, higest temp?
[19:57] <pfifo> eer: if its built into the motherboard than it is a fakeraid. a realraid controller should cost 300-500+ USD
[19:57] <eer> pfifo, can you recommend one?
[19:58] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: 60 is not that much
[19:58] <pfifo> eer: i reccommend ZFS over raid now though, you might want ZFS if you want redundancy and encryption
[19:58] <bekks> pfifo: areca or lsi.
[19:58] <pfifo> eer: I reccommend ASUS products
[19:58] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, usually my home pc runs at < 40
[19:58] <eer> pfifo, you have a link? Is ZFS a file system?
[19:58] <jediael_> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[19:59] <pfifo> eer: yes its a filesystem, wikipedia has a good article
[19:59] <bekks> eer: I wont use ZFS on linux due to its limitations which still exist.
[19:59] <eer> pfifo, thx
[19:59] <bekks> eer: limitations on non-Solaris.
[19:59] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, it is Unity :)
[19:59] <zero_coder> bekks : can u tell me what ur cpu temp is?
[19:59] <semajnad> Does anyone know if this is meant to work? It doesn't seem to be? https://bensmann.no/restrict-sftp-users-to-home-folder/
[19:59] <bekks> zero_coder: it doesnt matter since I have a different computer.
[20:00] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: check with lm sensors your hardware spec
[20:00] <zero_coder> bekks, but how will i know 60 is too much?
[20:00] <bekks> zero_coder: Because thats quite common.
[20:00] <zero_coder> bekks : okay
[20:01] <jediaelo> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:01] <pfifo> semajnad: if you skipped the group part, then its no wonder why it failed
[20:02] <semajnad> pfifo: But I read somewhere you could skip the group part and change the top bit to Match User USERNAME
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, Easily done in the gnome shell it's not there and added with extension, the unity desktop has the top panel hard connected is all, probably a config at best will remove it.
[20:02] <jediael09123> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:02] <pfifo> semajnad: then follow the instructions that gave you that information
[20:03] <lukodiablo> daftykins: the driver mac80211 is supported for 8812au?
[20:03] <zero_coder> bekks , the high is +86 and critical is 100
[20:03] <bekks> zero_coder: 86 is far too much :)
[20:04] <bekks> zero_coder: Just clean your fans and coolers.
[20:04] <semajnad> pfifo: Do you know if that tutorial I sent is mean tto work?
[20:04] <jediael09123> My video card is not installing and everytime i try to install it i cant log in please help! ATI Radeon 3200 ubuntu 13.10
[20:04] <zero_coder> bekks : its a laptop , i have to dimantle it?
[20:04] <jediael09123> PLEASE HELP
[20:04] <bekks> !patience | jediael09123
[20:05] <pfifo> semajnad: it seems reasonable, restrict users in sftponly group to a chroot jail
[20:05] <zero_coder> bekks,  : what does that high mean?
[20:05] <jediael09123> bekks
[20:05] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: on mý laptop the temp is around 54-65
[20:05] <jediael09123> i try but i seem to be ignored
[20:05] <bekks> zero_coder: High means: a lot, not just a bit, mucho, etc.
[20:05] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12, what does high mean?
[20:05] <bekks> jediael09123: You waited just ONE minute.
[20:05] <semajnad> pfifo: "If the chroot environment is in a user’s home directory both /home and /home/username must be owned by root and should have permissions along the lines of 755 or 750." Does that mean that /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft - the place where I want them chrooted to, needs to be owned by root?
[20:06] <zero_coder> bekks : okay
[20:07] <pfifo> semajnad: it means all directories upto their home folder need to be owned by root, and their home folder and everything in it can be owned by the user
[20:07] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: usually the pc is shutting down by himself if it reaches high tem
[20:07] <semajnad> pfifo: So in this case /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin is not owned by mcsn01, but the next directory which is called Minecraft where I want them chrooted to needs to be owned by mcsn01?
[20:08] <semajnad> pfifo: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin all needs to be owned by root?
[20:08] <zero_coder> liahimcociuba12,  but it slows down if temprature is more than what it should be, right?
[20:08] <pfifo> semajnad: /home is owned by root, this applies more to ftp users that need to be jailed to a folder in /var/www which is owned by www-data
[20:08] <pfifo> semajnad: what is their hole folder?
[20:08] <liahimcociuba12> you can clear your laptop with compressed air, just blow in the fan
[20:08] <pfifo> home*
[20:08] <semajnad> pfifo: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft - that Minecraft folder is where I want them jailed to, don't want them getting any higher then that.
[20:09] <liahimcociuba12> zero_coder: yep
[20:09] <jediael09123> anyone ?
[20:09] <pfifo> semajnad: then yes, /home /home/mcsn01 and /home/mscn01/McMyAdmin must all be owned by root
[20:10] <semajnad> pfifo: And how do I make that ownership?
[20:10] <bekks> semajnad: chown
[20:10] <vov_> with chown
[20:10] <pfifo> !chown | semajnad
[20:10] <semajnad> pfifo: Awesome, thanks.
[20:11] <semajnad> pfifo: So is that the reason why it's not letting me log into FTP? That all those are owned by the person meant to be CHROOTED?
[20:11] <pfifo> semajnad: I dont know
[20:11] <pfifo> semajnad: if /home is owned by anyone but root you are doing something very wrong
[20:12] <semajnad> pfifo: No it's owned by root :P
[20:12] <semajnad> pfifo:  I get this on filezilla Error:	Network error: Software caused connection abort Error:	Could not connect to server when trying to connect with mcsn01
[20:12] <bekks> semajnad: What are the permissions and ownerships of the thre mentioned directories?
[20:13] <pfifo> semajnad: semajnad pastebin the output of 'id mcsn01'
[20:14] <semajnad> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/EmZCDWLv
[20:14] <semajnad> bekks: /home/mcsn01 and /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin are owned by root and set to 750
[20:14] <semajnad> bekks: /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft is owned by mcsn01 and is meant to be where they are jailed to in FTP
[20:15] <pfifo> semajnad: what is mcsn01's home folder?
[20:15] <semajnad> I believe it is /home/mcsn01/McMyAdmin/Minecraft
[20:15] <Kid_Matthew> i get an error when trying to make files for a game called sauerbraten make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[20:16] <pfifo> semajnad: why isnt it /home/mcsn01
[20:16] <semajnad> pfifo: Because I thought to CROOT them to the Minecraft folder that had to be their home directory?
[20:16] <bekks> Kid_Matthew: then contact the sauerbraten support :)
[20:16] <hitsujiTMO> Kid_Matthew: don't make clean then ... just make
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Was the command you used just make or make clean?
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: You should conclude that this package may not be very well built if it lacks make clean.
[20:17] <pfifo> semajnad: changing that persons home folder is definatly NOT the way to go
[20:17] <Kid_Matthew> i just used make clean
[20:17] <semajnad> pfifo: Oh right okay, I'll change it back to /home/mcsn01
[20:17] <Kid_Matthew> using these instructions http://cube.wikispaces.com/Building+and+Compiling
[20:17] <pfifo> semajnad: it will start putting dotfiles in the minecraft folder
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Consider what might happen if this package breaks something, how will you remove all of it?
[20:18] <Kid_Matthew> what do you mean?
[20:18] <pfifo> semajnad: use a ftp daemon that supports jailing users to any arbrity folder
[20:18] <pfifo> arbatrary
[20:18] <semajnad> pfifo: Can you suggest any?
[20:18] <pfifo> arbitary
[20:18] <jpds> semajnad: sftpd.
[20:18] <bekks> semajnad: vsftpd
[20:18] <pfifo> semajnad: no
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: Before you install it, have a look at what it's going to do, and figure out how you can remove it if it causes problems.  (Rather than figuring it out _after_ it causes problems.)
[20:18] <pfifo> ask bestbot
[20:19] <jhutchins_wk> Kid_Matthew: There should be a README file included, and possibly an INSTALL file, you should read those before you run make.
[20:19] <semajnad> bekks: The problem is, when I bought this server, it came pre-installed with a FTP server even though they said it didnt, how can I make sure it's using VSFTPD instead?
[20:19] <pfifo> semajnad: openssh's sftp isnt a ftpd
[20:19] <bekks> semajnad: uninstall all other ftp servers, install vsftpd.
[20:20] <semajnad> bekks: Is there any easy way to see what ftp servers you have installed?
[20:20] <reisio> but openssh's sshd is, technically
[20:20] <bekks> semajnad: use your package manager
[20:20]  * pfifo goes to smoke
[20:20] <semajnad> bekks:  I don't know how :/ sorry not being very helpful here.
[20:21] <semajnad> bekks: I thought this would be easier to do haha, been at it all day :P
[20:21] <semajnad> bekks:  I did install vsftpd but I think it must still be using the old one.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: There is a lot of great documentation on the ubuntu websites, including a wiki.
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: For a server, it's best not to rely on a GUI, but learn console management commands.,
[20:22] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: I am, haven't even touched a GUI
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: To see what software is installed, you can use dpkg -l <string> to search for packages that begin with <string>,
[20:23] <jpds> semajnad: dpkg -l | grep ftp
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> or dpkg -l | grep <string> to find packages that contain <string>.
[20:23] <semajnad> jpds: jhutchins_wk It says vsftpd and ftp
[20:23] <jpds> semajnad: Cool.
[20:24] <semajnad> jpds: So ftp is listed as "classical file transfer client"
[20:24] <semajnad> say so I can uninstall that?
[20:24] <jpds> semajnad: Yes, that's just a FTP client.
[20:24] <reisio> classical, AKA insecure
[20:24] <jpds> reisio: CLIENT.
[20:24] <semajnad> jpds: not a server? before I installed vsftpd I could still connect to ftp :/
[20:24] <reisio> jpds: okay film
[20:24] <ubut22> hello. when i set the screen size of my laptop to 800x600 then i have black boarders on both side of the screen. how to "stretch the screen, so that there are no boarders anymore?
[20:25] <reisio> ubut22: how'd you set it?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> !xrandr | ubut22
[20:25] <JesperHeads> on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and having trouble using skype...
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: That's just the client, not a server.
[20:25] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: I don't get how I could connect to FTP before I installed vsftpd then :/
[20:25] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: vsftpd provides an ftp service.
[20:25] <jpds> sam113101: So you have a client and server installed.
[20:26] <jhutchins_wk> vsftpd probably replaced ftpd.  Or maybe it was already installed.
[20:26] <ubut22> reisio, i set it with the displays tool and tried with randr as well
[20:26] <semajnad> jhutchins_wk: can't even see ftpd on that list
[20:26] <JesperHeads> at first, I thought I didnt have skype installed, so I downloaded a fresh .deb from their website. trying to install it meets with "cannot install 'libqt4-webkit:i386'
[20:27] <JesperHeads> which I have reinstalled...
[20:27] <reisio> JesperHeads: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[20:27] <bekks> semajnad: pastebin the output please
[20:27] <jhutchins_wk> semajnad: It wouldn't make sense to have both installed, so if you installed vsftpd, it would have removed any ftp server that was there previously.
[20:27] <JesperHeads> reisio: ty looking
[20:27] <jpds> semajnad: sudo netstat -ltnp | grep 23
[20:27] <bekks> jpds: 22, not 23
[20:27] <jpds> semajnad: Sorry, grep 21.
[20:28] <jpds> bekks: No.
[20:28] <bekks> geez, yes 21.
[20:28] <semajnad> bekks: http://pastie.org/8450938
[20:28] <jpds> semajnad: Oh, so it's been Removed.
[20:29] <jpds> semajnad: Hence the r in rc.
[20:29] <semajnad> jpds: ftpd apparently has if I ever had it.
[20:29] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Okay, I have to switch then to gnome shell apparently. But I still like Unity after being away from Ubuntu for about 6 months or so.
[20:29] <semajnad> jpds: Ok so how can I uninstall whatever I'm using and install vsftpd
[20:29] <JesperHeads> reisio: Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[20:29] <JesperHeads> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[20:29] <JesperHeads> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[20:29] <jpds> semajnad: So, sudo apt-get install vsftpd.
[20:29] <JesperHeads> or been moved out of Incoming.
[20:30] <JesperHeads> sry, will use pastebin btw
[20:30] <ubut22> how to stretch 800x600 resolution to native screen resolution. I want to get rid of black borders on both sides.
[20:31] <pfifo> jpds: netstat is old, learn and love ss
[20:31] <semajnad> jpds: http://pastie.org/8450946 all done
[20:31] <jpds> pfifo: Still does the job.
[20:31] <jpds> semajnad: Cool, so done.
[20:31] <semajnad> jpds: Okay, so now I need to learn how to jail someone into a directory, any suggestions on where to start?
[20:32] <jpds> semajnad: Looks easy: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/vsftp-chroot-users-limit-to-only-their-home-directory.html
[20:33] <DrGrov> Is there any potential setbacks when using different themes in 13.10, Unity specifically? Something being messed up, ex. colours or so?
[20:33] <pfifo> semajnad: vsftpd can be setup so that it does NOT use the systems users, and it can also be configured so that the users root is anywhere in the system, I recommend both, and both are documented in the vsftpd manual, you should read through it before asking for help
[20:34] <pfifo> jpds: hes not trying to jail users to their home folder, he wants to jail users to a specific folder elsewhere
[20:34] <jpds> I also recommend putting vsftpd under apparmor.
[20:34] <stblack_> hi anyone know how to enter in #ubuntu-beginners-dev? it's always full
[20:35] <semajnad> jpds: I've done that before but it doesn't seem to work :/ although I did notice my vsftpd.conf is not located in /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf but rather in /etc/vsftpd.conf
[20:35] <reisio> stblack_: not sure anybody's in there anyways
[20:37] <reisio> stblack: /msg chanserv info #ubuntu-beginners-dev, +l 1 means only one person is allowed
[20:38] <pfifo> a closed channel
[20:38] <semajnad> jpds:  Do you know why it's not running haha "service vsftp restart vsftp: unrecognized service"
[20:38] <stblack> thanks reisio
[20:38] <pfifo> i think its vsftpd
[20:39] <semajnad> pfifo: oops thanks
[20:39] <PDilyard> would it be easier for me to create a 30GB partition in windows, and then choose that partition when i run the ubuntu installer from a USB drive?
[20:40] <PDilyard> the installer defaulted to my HDD but i want to install on my SSD
[20:40] <semajnad> pfifo: See even though I follow the tutorial about the CHROOT_LIST_ENABLED and added my name to it, it still lets me go out of my home directory
[20:40] <adamu> If i remember correctly when chrooting sftp users to Minecraft the McMyAdmin directory must be owned by root
[20:40] <pfifo> PDilyard: no, the installer allows for manual partitioning, which saves you the windows step so hence is 'easier' imo
[20:40] <mynameis> police took my phone
[20:40] <mynameis> can they charge me with a crime if they find pirated music on it?
[20:41] <pfifo> mynameis: yes, also this is offtopic
[20:41] <DJones> mynameis: This is Ubuntu support, thats not something we can advise you on
[20:41] <reisio> mynameis: not really, no
[20:41] <mynameis> anyone know of a good suicide method?
[20:41] <reisio> not in the USA, anyways
[20:42] <jpds> So.
[20:42] <PDilyard> pfifo, my SSD (C:\) has 3 partitions (SYSTEM, OS, and RECOVERY). when i run the ubuntu installer, would i just click on the OS partition and click "new table"?
[20:43] <reisio> stblack: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-beginners/2013-August/002541.html
[20:43] <Ben64> PDilyard: "new table" will erase everything
[20:43] <PDilyard> how should i do it then?
[20:43] <Ben64> make a new partition
[20:43] <pfifo> PDilyard: no, that would delete your existing partitions, you might need to use gparted (ion the livecd) to resize a partition to make room for a new one.
[20:43] <PDilyard> ok
[20:44] <JesperHeads> im having serious dependency issues with skype :-\ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6349172/
[20:44] <JesperHeads> typing y installs nothing
[20:44] <JesperHeads> typing n offers to name some 400 packages
[20:44] <JesperHeads> rename*
[20:44] <PDilyard> pfifo, and with gparted, i could also make a partition on my other drive for /home, right?
[20:45] <ubuntu_> can someone help me install ubuntu? i belive my partitions is a mess.. i have one 64gb ssd and one 500gb hdd ( movies and pics) and i want to replace win8 with ubuntu (which is installed on ssd)
[20:45] <pfifo> PDilyard: correct
[20:45] <PDilyard> pfifo, and the installer allows me to choose where /home is?
[20:45] <Geronimo> hi
[20:46] <pfifo> PDilyard: yes, just have to assign a mount point to te partition
[20:46] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: is your bios uefi?
[20:46] <Geronimo> is openjdk the only available jdk for Ubuntu?
[20:46] <pfifo> Geronimo: no, oracle
[20:46] <PDilyard> pfifo, alright cool. thank you
[20:46] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, no.. but i fear that somehow if i just presss "replace win8 with ubuntu" it will try to install ubuntu on my 500gb hdd"
[20:46] <pfifo> s jdk is available too
[20:46] <lukodiablo> can someone help if my wireless RTL 8812au is supp
[20:47] <lukodiablo> pcan someone help if my wireless RTL 8812au is supported for mac80211 driver ?
[20:47] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: if it finds win8 on the ssd, im fairly confident it will try to replace it on that drive. I think it will end up giving you an option as well? though I may be mistaken. its been a while since I performed an install.
[20:47] <Geronimo> pfifo: I don't seem to find the oracle package
[20:47] <bradhe> Anyone have any ideas why openjdk-7-jre isn't in apt-cache by default on 13.04 anymore? It suddenly disappeared it seems...
[20:47] <yeats> ubuntu_: is the 500G drive internal or external?
[20:47] <trism> JesperHeads: what is: apt-cache policy libtiff4 libtiff4:i386;
[20:48] <JesperHeads> trism: god if i only knew
[20:48] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, actually win8 made a patition on my 500gb HDD which says "windows 8 loader" and is 387MB .. i have no idea why
[20:48] <rypervenche> What is the name of the Xorg package in Ubuntu?
[20:48] <pfifo> Geronimo: i *think* there is a partner repo for it. but if your intrested in a jdk then your a power user and should just get it direct from oracle
[20:48] <JesperHeads> trism: i think i needed tiff for tesseract
[20:48] <bradhe> I added the PPA ppa:openjdk/ppa, but I get the following when I try to install: http://pastebin.com/16yjBb6x
[20:49] <reisio> rypervenche: xserver-xorg ?
[20:49] <Geronimo> pfifo: ok, thanks. yes, I was thinking there might be another repo for it. I might as well download from oracle directly.
[20:49] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: win8 bootloader, no?
[20:49] <trism> JesperHeads: I mean, what is the output of the command, I want to know what repositories they are installed from
[20:49] <stblack> reisio: It's a sad news. So I'd like to understand through the wiki the steps to begin dev career....;-)
[20:49] <JesperHeads> trism: ah, k, incoming
[20:50] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, perhaps?
[20:50] <reisio> stblack: for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <pfifo> bradhe: what is the output of 'lsb_release -sa'
[20:50] <reisio> stblack: for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <bradhe> pfifo: lemme check
[20:50] <stblack> reisio : Yes!
[20:51] <JesperHeads> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6349222/
[20:51] <reisio> stblack: /msg ubottu contribute
[20:51] <bradhe> https://gist.github.com/bradhe/b4317e8a695339ef6073
[20:51] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, will it destroy stuff sitting there?
[20:51] <JesperHeads> ubuntu_: im dualbooting ubuntu and win7 with grub. During boot, to load windows the option is "win7 loader". so it would make sense to me
[20:51] <bradhe> pfifo: https://gist.github.com/bradhe/b4317e8a695339ef6073 -- er, maybe I'm NOT on 13.04...I might have the wrong AMI
[20:51] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, oh ok
[20:52] <pfifo> bradhe: your running 10.04 lucid, which is end of life and which is why you can download the dependacies you need
[20:52] <pfifo> why you CANT download..
[20:52] <bradhe> pfifo: Makes sense, thanks for pointing that out...I thought I was on 13.04, but I must have copy-pasta'd the wrong AMI
[20:52] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, will it put grub on my 2nd HDD also ? i just want ubuntu on my ssd..
[20:53] <ubuntu_> JesperHeads, should i press "something else" chose my SSD  - format ext4 - use as / and install?
[20:53] <JesperHeads> grub is only offered to be installed if you ask ubuntu to dual boot if i recall correctly
[20:53] <trism> JesperHeads: alright first try: sudo apt-get install libtiff4/precise; if that succeeds you'll probably be able to install skype
[20:53] <JesperHeads> trism: trying now
[20:53] <trism> JesperHeads: it looks like a leftover from some ppa unless you manually installed it
[20:54] <JesperHeads> trism: you wonderful person.
[20:54] <JesperHeads> trism: its at least installing now. will report when I try to launch
[20:54] <JesperHeads> well... donwloading
[20:56] <yeyeman> whats the difference between json and cpickle?
[20:56] <yeyeman> i mean functionally
[20:56] <TJ-> With  "ssh -X host /path/to/executable" the exported window is blank but renders fine on the local host. Where should I start looking for clues to solve this?
[20:56] <JesperHeads> trism: confirmed working. your assistance was greatly appreciated
[20:56] <dogarrhea> ?
[20:56] <yeyeman> people keep telling me not to use cpickle, but I don't see any reason why json is preferable
[20:57] <pfifo> yeyeman: json cant pickle an entire class with functions
[20:57] <dogarrhea> i did a sudo apt-get install gcc and it says i'm up to date.  C++ people say i'm NOT up to date
[20:57] <dogarrhea> what gives?
[20:57] <trism> JesperHeads: excellent
[20:57] <bekks> dogarrhea: you have the latest version from the ubuntu repos installed, which is not necessarily the latest version released.
[20:57] <pfifo> yeyeman: pickels can be modified to contain malicaous data, json not so much
[20:58] <dogarrhea> bekks: how do i get to them
[20:58] <reisio> yeyeman: I'd ask #python about that
[20:58] <bekks> dogarrhea: Why do you need it?
[20:58] <dakotawulfy> when mapping a mouse  are the buttons the same out put on all  of them like i mapped one of the side button on a mouse works on that one but not the other mouse i have hooked up  i used the btnx?
[20:58] <dogarrhea> bekks because 4.4.3 is not sufficient it appears
[20:58] <pfifo> yeyeman: you should never unpickel data that you didnt pickle yourself
[20:58] <dogarrhea> g++ 4.4.3
[20:58] <Geronimo> bye
[20:58] <bekks> dogarrhea: Not sufficient for what?
[20:58] <dogarrhea> compiling <mutex> and <thread>
[20:59] <bekks> dogarrhea: I bet those arent inventions introduced with 4.4.3
[20:59] <pfifo> bekks: lol
[20:59] <dogarrhea> bekks which is why I need a newer compiler...
[21:00] <pfifo> dogarrhea: to get help from gcc people you have to be running the latest version of gcc, but that dosent mean the version your using isnt capable of doing what you want
[21:00] <delinquentme> deactivate sudo su  from the command line without exit or Ctrl+d ???
[21:01] <dogarrhea> pfifo i need c++11
[21:01] <dogarrhea> and 4.4.3 doesn't have it
[21:01] <dogarrhea> no compile support for it
[21:01] <pfifo> dogarrhea: gcc that comes with 13.10 can do c++11, mir is pure c++11
[21:01] <bekks> so thats totally different from asking for mutex and thread.
[21:01] <dogarrhea> it's the same bekks
[21:01] <dogarrhea> go talk to the c++ people
[21:02] <Vivekananda> This is not a ubuntu specific question but related to ubuntu. I have tomcat and I deployed a webapp by putting my .war file inside the webapp/ folder in ubunutu. I remembered that there is aslo a folder called var/www/ on ubuntu where I can put files but have forgotten what it was and how to use it . Can someone tell me the diff between var/www/ and webapp/ folders ?
[21:02] <dogarrhea> mutex and thread depend on c++11
[21:02] <pfifo> dogarrhea: no the dont
[21:02] <dogarrhea> are you serious?
[21:02] <bekks> they dont. or there wouldnt have been SMP before.
[21:02] <einstein> hello
[21:02] <bekks> dogarrhea: yes, we are.
[21:02] <reisio> 'lo einstein
[21:02]  * pfifo puts on his srs face
[21:03] <bekks> pfifo: dont laugh, we're at the good cop, bad cop level now ;P
[21:03] <einstein> how are you?
[21:04] <pfifo> no still bad cop and bad cop
[21:04] <bekks> :D
[21:04] <TJ-> dogarrhea: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain for using development releases of GCC
[21:04] <dogarrhea> bekks, pfifo, again, they are repeating that mutex and thread were introduced in c++11
[21:04] <dogarrhea> so either they are wrong or you are wrong
[21:05] <dogarrhea> it can't be both but someone has to figure this out
[21:05] <pfifo> dogarrhea: can you pastebin your code
[21:05] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteal.org/46974
[21:05] <moppy> dogarrhea, my udnerstanding is that gcc current version is compliant with c++11. are you asking how to update gcc?
[21:05] <dogarrhea> yes I am moppy
[21:06] <pfifo> dogarrhea: can you pastebin it somewhere else, that link isnt working for me
[21:06] <moppy> dogarrhea, Oh sec, i see their stblib is behind
[21:07] <moppy> dogarrhea, but it has mutex, cool
[21:07] <dogarrhea> http://www.pasteall.org/46974
[21:07] <dogarrhea> so i just need to update my gcc. but not sure how
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i have some ubuntu 10 version..
[21:08] <moppy> dogarrhea, silly question, being a c/c++ dev and all that but have you tried building it from source? :-)
[21:08] <dogarrhea> making the gcc compilers?
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i haven't
[21:08] <kostkon> dogarrhea, your ubuntu is eol anyway, you nned to upgrade to a newer version
[21:08] <dogarrhea> i thought i'd do it the ubuntu way but it appears this is a useless way
[21:08] <moppy> dogarrhea, ##c++ on here should know where to get a PPA from
[21:09] <moppy> dogarrhea, the problem is you need an updated ppa for it, to use the package manager, but it will depend on libraries newer than ubuntu 10, so its a bit of effort
[21:10] <moppy> dogarrhea, i've found the PPA for the latest version of gcc but (4.8.something) it's not going work on Ubuntu 10
[21:10] <dogarrhea> ok.  I'll look for the actual source and make
[21:10] <TJ-> dogarrhea: Maybe you could create a 13.10 chroot using debootstrap where the up-to-date GCC is installed by default?
[21:10] <dogarrhea> ugh. this is taking too much time. I need to download and install for a few hours?
[21:11] <dogarrhea> dogarrhea: Maybe you could create a 13.10 chroot using debootstrap where the up-to-date GCC is installed by default? <---- how much time?
[21:11] <pfifo> dogarrhea: the easiest way to updeate your gcc is to install ubuntu 13.10. your gcc is pretty outdates
[21:11] <dogarrhea> seriously?
[21:11] <TJ-> dogarrhea: I created one early in about 5 minutes
[21:11] <dogarrhea> i need to reinstall an os to use an application?
[21:11] <dogarrhea> that sounds entirely useless
[21:12] <pfifo> dogarrhea: you dont 'need' but im giving you the 'fastest' option
[21:12] <karab44> hello
[21:12] <mrpanda> hey
[21:12] <marahin> Hey guys. I've been trying to install Ubuntu minimal; though my installation hangs at "Intsalling the base system\n Retrieveing file 7 of 12 (10s remaining)"
[21:12] <OerHeks> dogarrhea, if you want that latest software, yes. and it is free
[21:12] <marahin> it froze there for like ~10 minutes already
[21:12] <karab44> How to watch things that are in silverlight?
[21:12] <mrpanda> anybody know about libnih ?
[21:12] <marahin> is there any way to *restart* the installation? :P
[21:12] <dogarrhea> every 3 years i need to reinstall os and test all my applications?
[21:12] <dogarrhea> this is seriously a bad release strategy
[21:13] <pfifo> wants the latestes greatest features of software... refuses to upgrade software
[21:13] <OerHeks> dogarrhea, well, what version are you running actually ? 10.04 desktop is EOL
[21:13] <pfifo> cant have both man
[21:14] <kostkon> dogarrhea, lts releases are supported for 5y, starting from 12.04
[21:14] <moppy> dogarrhea, Just build gcc from source or install 12.10 in a virtual machine or chroot or something
[21:14] <moppy> Although I admit building gcc is a major pain in the backside
[21:14] <pfifo> dogarrhea: how about this, instead of using c++11 revert to just plain c which has threads and mutices and is supported by your old gcc
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I would give it a little more time, the net connection may be slow....etc
[21:15] <dogarrhea> pfifo that sounds like not an option either
[21:15] <TJ-> dogarrhea: "sudo mkdir -p /chroot/13.10; sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd saucy /chroot/13.10 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu"
[21:15] <dogarrhea> i'm hearing things like "reinstall os" and "rewrite your code from scratcH" i'm very curious now heh
[21:15] <pfifo> TJ-: lucid debootstrap dosent have saucy script
[21:15] <PDilyard> ok so i partitioned a 30gb volume with ext3. should i select that as the "Device for boot loader installation"?
[21:16] <dogarrhea> buildd with two 'd's?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> marahin, From my net installs I noticed a bit longer time for finishing is all, it is downloading the info.
[21:16] <moppy> dogarrhea, I dont think anyone told you to rewrite the code. It's silly idea anyway
[21:16] <dogarrhea> moppy:  <pfifo> dogarrhea: how about this, instead of using c++11 revert to just plain c which has threads and mutices and is supported by your old gcc
[21:16] <moppy> dogarrhea, Wow ok that was a bit crazy :-)
[21:17] <dogarrhea> debootstrap command not found
[21:17] <Vivekananda> anyone could tell me in ubuntu 12.04 what is the diff between var/www/ folder and the webapp/ folder for tomcat
[21:17] <moppy> dogarrhea, once you get to 12.04 or later, it should be fine: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/install-gcc-4-8-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-12-04-13-04/
[21:17] <PDilyard> pfifo: ok so i partitioned a 30gb volume with ext3. should i select that as the "Device for boot loader installation"?
[21:17] <PDilyard> e.g. /dev/sda4
[21:18] <Anony_Black> Mahlzeit ist das hier das Deutsche Forum
[21:18] <moppy> dogarrhea, ubuntu is quite fast moving anyway, debian is an option if you want more long term stability
[21:20] <Anony_Black> lol
[21:20] <marahin> wilee-nilee, well, it's staying for 15 minutes already like taht.
[21:20] <dogarrhea> i'm going to try to make from source
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, You installing a OS to this partition, is it on the HD, do you want it to have the boot control? 3 questions here.
[21:20] <marahin> wilee-nilee, so it doesn't really seem like it's downloading any info
[21:20] <marahin> rather like it lost connection and it can't resolve it back on
[21:21] <marahin> is there any way to interrupt the process and start it over again (but from the "download the base system" part further on)?
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> marahin, You can start over if you feel that is the case, I'm not sure on any restart from there, never had to myself
[21:22] <marahin> well i guess that's the solution, since it hadn't moved on...
[21:22] <marahin> let me try.
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> marahin, Is the router blinking like it's downloading?
[21:23] <Vivekananda> join #php
[21:23] <soman> I read a news about LO release and now I have next available version in update manager for libreoffice => 1:4.1.3~rc2-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa1. Does it final release or release candidate?
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> Vivekananda,  /join #php
[21:23] <marahin> wilee-nilee, seriously with that question? :D
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I'm quite serious, hehe.
[21:24] <m3kk> how a
[21:24] <Vivekananda> yep got it
[21:24] <m3kk> hey
[21:24] <m3kk> how come i get grubmenu each time i boot
[21:24] <m3kk> i just want uubntu to boot?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, You dual booting?
[21:25] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: I replaced win8 with ubuntu
[21:25] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: I am installing ubuntu on the 30gb partition, its on my SSD, and im not sure what you mean by boot control
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, run sudo update-grub in ubuntu, if it's the only OS with no other bootloaders present you should not see the grub menu, run it check it out and repoert if you still see it and what;s there.
[21:26] <owen__> Hello all. I'm trying to create an installer that will prepare the local user environment for a script. I would also like the installer to add the user to the /etc/incron.allow and /var/spool/userName files. Is it possible to do this considering the installer script will have to run as root?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, When you have multiple OS say several linux using grub, I have 3 on my HD whatever one has the grub in the mbr, or boot area has the boot control. This a uefi setup?
[21:28] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: correct
[21:28] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i think the installer left a win8 loader on a partition.. i should just format that little sucker?
[21:29] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: right now im just running win7, after the install i'll be dual booting
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, Yeah if not needed do it but to keep the partition numbers numerically in order don;t delete it just format it.
[21:29] <m3kk> ok
[21:29] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: thanks
[21:30] <m3kk> is it same drivers i install from ubuntu-software or if i install it from synaptic?
[21:30] <m3kk> same source?
[21:30] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Cool this a uefi though, grub would go to the mbr if not no partition # just sda as you mention sda4 so I assume the ssd is sda.
[21:32] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ok and should i disable secure boot before i install?
[21:32] <m3kk> guysguy should i remove drivers in use before installing fglrx drivers?`should i disable/uninstall opensoruce drivers before i install them
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, secure boot is part of uefi THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFO CAN YOU CONFIRM IT< lol.
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Be very careful here in not answering questions if you do not understand.
[21:34] <PDilyard> i just remember from installing on my laptop that i installed ubuntu, and then my pc would go to the grub terminal, and i had to disable secure boot before running the grub fix program
[21:34] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ^^
[21:34] <PDilyard> srry meant ^ ^
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | PDilyard
[21:34] <mooperd> Hey, does anyone know anythig about kvm machines not rebooting; just stopping on guest os reboot
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Mainly here we want your install to be correct, same reason your here is all.
[21:36] <moppy> PDilyard, no-one is persecuting you, just that there was an issue a while ago with machines bricking as a result of messing with UEFI, so wilee-nilee just wants to be careful
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, If this is uefi sda for grub is incorrect is all, it has a boot partition.
[21:36] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: im not really following you guys, sorry
[21:37] <moppy> (canonical should buy some UEFI machines for the regulars on here: there's about 3 people in the whole channel who know UEFI and 2 of them don't want to talk about it :-)
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> did someone say uefi?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> moppy, Heh, this is the last place one should come with a uefi for sure.
[21:38] <PDilyard> all i know is that on my laptop (HP) i had to change secure boot in the bios settings before grub would work. and now, on my laptop, grub has an entry "Windows UEFI Boot Loader" that boots into windows.
[21:38] <moppy> PDilyard, ok, but what is the problem? Does it not boot?
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> is there a problem?
[21:39] <PDilyard> haha i dont have a problem, my original question was making sure i selected the right partition to install on
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> ahh cool
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, What you know is good, it is a uefi, so a little different install schema is all, here is a thread I think that is quite helpful beyond the bots info.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  This mod is focused on this and will help you at the ubuntu forums.
[21:40] <PDilyard> i made a new partition (ext3) and its now called /dev/sda4. Is this the "Device for bootloader installation" i should select?
[21:40] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i formated that one but it still shjows up in grub.. can i just  edit the grub to boot ubuntu direct=
[21:41] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: wait how do we know its UEFI?
[21:41] <PDilyard> is there a way i can check to be sure?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, What would be helpful is if you ran the bootrepair app just the bootinfo summary it kick out a script that shows what is where and what its doing is this possible?
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you don't specify a decive for the bootloader in uefi. I installs to ( what should be ) the only efi system partition.
[21:41] <m3kk> wilee-nilee: i have that app? :P
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> s/decive/device/
[21:42] <Zeranoe> After running several tests, I've noticed that the terminal emulator that comes with Ubuntu actually works faster than one of the virtual terminals (ctrl+alt+f1). I was testing make -j 4 commands on both, and the Ubuntu terminal emulator was faster each time. Does anyone have any idea whats going on here? I thought the virtual terminal would be faster seeing it's "lower end".
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: run: efibootmgr
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, secure boot is uefi at the least, you get a screen that says uefi, and as I said this is the last place uefi is really a top issue approached with any real empirical help.
[21:43] <owen__> If I run a script with sudo, it is possible to include in the script the local environment of the user that ran the sudo command?
[21:43] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: how do you guys know i have uefi? lol
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> m3kk, You can install it, just run the bootinfo summary and post the url to it, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:44] <PDilyard> can i just check for secure boot somehow
[21:44] <Jordan_U> owen__: What part of the "environment" do you want? Environment variables are specifically sanitized and removed by sudo for security reasons.
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: secure boot is an optional part of the uefi spec. if you have to disable it then you have to have uefi :P
[21:44] <PDilyard> i know but im not sure if i have to disable it lol
[21:44] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: What problem are you having?
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you have to disable secure boot because the ubuntu bootloaders aren't signed by microsoft
[21:45] <PDilyard> i havent installed it yet lol. Jordan_U: none other than being really confused lol :P
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, SECURE BOOT IS UEFI< IT IS ON YOUR SCREEN THAT YOU HAVE SEEN, no really we have carnac powers. Honestly confirming uefi is your responsibility, and it is ours to not go wilee-nilee on your install and break it.
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> the caps are a joke here
[21:46] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: im totally agree, and im sorry for asking, im just trying to make sure i dont mess anything up
[21:46] <LXDE_LUBUNTU> hi all. I made a live usb key, with Lubuntu 12.04. I used to install xmms.The problem is: I can't start it. It is not in the start menu.How can I start it? Thank you
[21:46] <owen__> Jordan_U: The user ID and the /home directory. So that when the user runs the install script using sudo, the local user's ID is added to certain files within the /etc and /var directories as well as creating .directories in the users /home directory.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: PDilyard: Ubuntu's shim is signed by microsoft, and so Ubuntu can boot perfectly well with secure boot enabled.
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, I'm with you bro. ;)
[21:47] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: ah ok thanks for the clarification
[21:47] <Jordan_U> owen__: What is your end goal? What does this script do?
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: yes, but not the installer
[21:47] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: Of course the install image is signed also.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Take a look at the bots uefi and the thread I sent you, if you need them again just say so.
[21:47] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: You're welcome.
[21:47] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee:alright thanks!
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: since when? refuses to boot for me with secure boot
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[21:48] <PDilyard> ok let me attempt this and i'll be back to let you guys know how it went
[21:48] <PDilyard> lol
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:48] <Jordan_U> hitsujiTMO: For multiple releases. What image are you trying to boot, and is it on a CD or a USB? (If USB, what tool did you use to load the image onto the drive?)
[21:49] <marahin> wilee-nilee, now it stops at "Configuring linux-image-3.8(...)-generic"
[21:49] <marahin> :P
[21:49] <marahin> gaaaay
[21:49] <AlanBell> hitsujiTMO: 32bit image or the 64bit iso?
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> marahin, gaaaay? this amaking fun of a marginalized group?
[21:50] <semajnad> jpds: Here another question. I create a user called testingaccount and give it a password of 1, I then create a group called testinggroup and usermod testingaccount -g testinggroup. I then do usermod testingaccount -s /bin/false - and after a short time do the same again but bash. However when I load putty and login, it instantly closes or says access denied.
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> jordan_U usb, 64bit, ... i can boot it as uefi no problem.
[21:50] <owen__> Jordan_U: Add the local user who ran the script as sudo into a file /etc/incron.allow and name a file after the local user that will reside in the /var/spool/incrond/localUser. The installer script would also add two .directories in the users /home directory
[21:50] <marahin> wilee-nilee, no offense, of course - rather as "haaa! gaaay" meme. :P
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> marahin, I'm straight, but find that really offensive I can't help you.
[21:51] <marahin> :DD
[21:51] <semajnad> Why is saying gay offensive lol
[21:52] <yeats> !guidelines
[21:52] <megalodon> Hi, when I set the filemanager to show detailed list - view, via Settings Manager, nautilus still shows icons instead of list view. Anyone know why?
[21:52] <megalodon> Ubuntu Studio 10.10
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> Jordan_U: what do you know, just retried and it does boot on 13.10 ... must have been an earlier version that wasn't booting.
[21:53] <owen__> Jordan_U: Is there a way to trace the local user that ran the sudo command?
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> owen__: should show up in auth log
[21:54] <Jordan_U> !eol | megalodon
[21:54] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: Where would I find the auth log file?
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> owen__: /var/log/auth.log
[21:55] <megalodon> OK
[21:55] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, I'll check that out
[21:55] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[21:55] <polter> I'm having some issues with my wifi. It's incredibly slow, and the only thing that seems to fix it is to disable 802.11N networking, which really isn't an optimal solution
[21:56] <Jordan_U> owen__: What is this script installing? It seems clear to me that rather than try to get info on the user that ran the script using sudo, you should fix your app to store user specific preferences in the user's home directory, and not populate those directories from a script run as root.
[21:56] <wafflejock> polter: are you  on 13.10?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> owen fastest way to find the entry is: sudo cat /var/log/auth.log | grep "<command>"
[21:56] <polter> wafflejock, yep
[21:56] <PDilyard> ok hang on here...on my SSD my new partition is /dev/sda4, which is where i want / to be. i think i understand what you guys were saying now...but im not sure how to proceed. wilee-nilee, Jordan_U
[21:56] <polter> I was running 13.10 for quite a while, but there must have been a kernel update or something because it stopped working a couple of weeks ago or so
[21:57] <wafflejock> polter: not sure what to tell you except a lot of people are having problems on 13.10 with wireless and I personally installed from a minimal disc last night on some old beater laptop and can't get it to connect to wifi though it sees the networks
[21:57] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: Please post a screenshot of the part of the installer you're having trouble with.
[21:57] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | PDilyard
[21:57] <wafflejock> polter: tried with multiple USB adapters, and could scan to see networks but could never join.... I'm probably gonna grab a 12.04 LTS disc and see if it's still a problem will take a while but if you're still here I'll let you know
[21:57] <PDilyard> ok
[21:57] <barkofink>  hello vlc can't find aac h264 decoder same in dragon player
[21:57] <megalodon> actually, I use Ubuntu 12.10
[21:58] <megalodon> not 10.10
[21:58] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Can you give an example of a video that's not playing for you?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, For sure Jordan_U Is your best help between the two of us, I'm not real up on uefi.
[21:59] <barkofink> evryone but avi contener
[21:59] <polter> wafflejock, you will probably not have any issues on 12.04. As I wrote, I had no issues until lately with 13.10
[21:59] <bet0x> Hello, my volumen indicator is empty on my panel, how can i fix this? i installed xubuntu-desktop from console
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> bet0x, Are you booted to it from the login?
[22:00] <bet0x> i logged in normally
[22:00] <barkofink> Jordan_U can't decode aac but can play musepack files crazy..
[22:00] <bet0x> changed from Gnome due crash and crash
[22:01] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/275569
[22:01] <wyatt> hey everyone im having problems with my  skype can anyone help me
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> bet0x, Cool, someone can probably help, however another crashed desktop may be a factor as they may share.
[22:02] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> can't decode aac but can play musepack files crazy..
[22:02] <bet0x> i won't waste my time triying to fix Gnome with Unity, is always broken nor have issues, i switched to Xface wich works like a charm, but i got that tiny issue
[22:02] <Jordan_U> barkofink: You still haven't provided an example I can look at that fails for you.
[22:02] <wyatt> Pulseaudio is showing in my audio setting in skype as pulse audio server (local) there is not way of changing the settings no one can hear me
[22:02] <owen__> Jordan_U: I have a script that performs a basic task. That part works OK. The problem is that this script is triggered using incron. I want to bundle all this up into a .deb package. Basically I want this to install and run with the least amount of effort for the user. I have this entire thing almost working, except the root user is being used in incron(since the script is being run as sudo) and not the local user.
[22:03] <itaylor57> I can't seem to find the REST::Cllent perl module
[22:03] <intrader> Anyone, my mistake cp -r instead
[22:03] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> I think I answered you read more
[22:04] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: The "device for bootloader installation" option is meaningless on UEFI systems, select "sda" just because that's the value that would make sense for a BIOS based system (where it matters). You also need to set the mountpoint of the partition you want to be your root partition to '/', and you need to create an EFI System Partition (assuming your machine is currently configured to boot via UEFI).
[22:04] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> [22:59] <barkofink> evryone but avi contener
[22:04] <wyatt> Pulseaudio is showing in my audio setting in skype as pulse audio server (local) there is not way of changing the settings no one can hear me
[22:04] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Please post a link to a single video that I can download, that doesn't work for you.
[22:04] <wafflejock> polter: ah okay perhaps you'd have better luck attempting to use NDISwrapper to get some drivers loaded instead of depending on whatever you've got going now
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: select /dev/sda4 and choose change ... you should be able to tell it to mount as root then
[22:06] <owen__> Jordan_U: The .deb package does its thing it installs the main script, man pages, incron etc.. But incron needs the local user ID. The installer script preinst is doing everything as root for the incron settings, when it should be using the local user who installed the .deb package
[22:06] <Jordan_U> owen__: The way that all sane apps work is that they install via a .deb file, managing only those parts of the app that are not specific to a single user, then when the app is first run by a user any needed configuration for that user is done at that time, touching only files in the user's home directory.
[22:06] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: i want it to be an EFI boot partition, correct?
[22:06] <polter> wafflejock, that's not a bad idea. I might just do that.
[22:07] <Jordan_U> PDilyard: Why aren't you just allowing the installer to partition things automatically?
[22:07] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> i can't i told you ALL mp4 contener with aac + h264 inside or mkv (with same codecs)
[22:08] <PDilyard> Jordan_U: because for some reason the "Install Ubuntu alongside them" option doesnt recognize my SSD
[22:08] <Jordan_U> barkofink: Can you provide a link to a single video with an mp4 container and aac audio + h.264 video for me to download?
[22:08] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> h264 works in the video but not the audio same for the other player
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: no ... it seems our windows install is not a uefi install considering that you don't already have an efi partition. you can either set /dev/sda4 as ext2 ext3 or ext4, what ever your preference. ext4 would be the norm
[22:08] <owen__> Jordan_U: I got that far, so I thought the .deb package could install the ground work stuff and then there could be an installer that the local user would run to install it locally, but again I'm back to the sudo problem.
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> s/our/your
[22:09] <howefield> .quit
[22:09] <Jordan_U> owen__: No, if your app is designed correctly you're not back at any sudo problem. The user specific portion of your program's setup shouldn't touch anything outside the user's home directory, and thus should not require the use of sudo.
[22:10] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:10] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: ok so then how do i install ubuntu in that partition?
[22:10] <moppy> owen__, maybe do what apache does and create a user account for itself?
[22:10] <owen__> Jordan_U: A local user cannot configure the /etc/incron.allow file
[22:10] <bet0x> Fixed the sound issue myself, creating a patch now for the rest of the hoomans! :P
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: its not seeing your windows environment as its not a uefi install. reboot and load the usb in legacy mode ( you should have 2 boot options usb:DEVICE NAME  or UEFI:DEVICE NAME, choose the usb option
[22:11] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> i don't have virtual dub here i just install a new distro. it's working under windows,all movies
[22:11] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:13] <barkofink> < Jordan_U> it has nothing to do with the movies
[22:13] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: hmm when i press esc while booting it takes me straight to the "Try Ubuntu without installing screen"
[22:13] <PDilyard> i havent seen the option to choose between usb and uefi
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you should have a seperate key for boot menu ... else your should be able to select it in the bios
[22:14] <PDilyard> ah ok
[22:14] <PDilyard> brb then
[22:14] <owen__> hitsujiTMO: I think using awk on the /var/log/auth.log to get the user ID is the solution to my problem, thanks :)
[22:15] <ljunggren_> i got both xserver and fglrx drivers installed in synaptic.. should i remove xserver ? if i want to use only fglrx?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: no, have you installed fglrx already?
[22:17] <bet0x> patch published: http://www.barrahome.org/2013/11/02/parche-indicador-de-sonido-en-xubuntu-13-10.html bug can be close now lol
[22:17] <bet0x> :D
[22:17] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[22:18] <jubale> How can we get some kind of a start menu or GUI program list for programs installed under WINE?
[22:18] <polter> is there any downside to adding the kernel ppa? I want to see if my networking issues are fixed
[22:18] <semajnad> Can someone please give me a hand with this, this is what i'm trying to do : http://pastie.org/8451103
[22:18] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, yeah just installed them..
[22:18] <Jordan_U> owen__: Please do *not* consider that a solution.
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: just restart and it should pickup fglrx.   what gpu do you have?
[22:19] <garcianc> semajnad, on your note when you say that the user has access to ftp, I am not sure if that's what you meant. Aren't you chrooting ssh?
[22:20] <garcianc> semajnad, oops, I just read it again, you mean FTP is locked, got it
[22:20] <semajnad> garcianc: Ye, they get locked in FTP to that directory perfectly, it's just that when I set them back to /bin/bash so I can login as them, it doesn't let me log in
[22:21] <semajnad> garcianc: Unless there's another way to lock a user our of command line
[22:21] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, radeon 7950
[22:21] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, trying to get steam working ;)
[22:21] <Jordan_U> owen__: If users aren't normally allowed to use incron (is that the case?) then /etc/incron.allow should be configured to allow access for users that are members of a specific group, and all users wanting to use your app should be added to that grub. Adding the user to that group should be the only thing done as root, everything else should be done as a normal user, and /etc/incron.allow should *NOT* be modified every time a new ...
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: what version of ubuntu?
[22:21] <Jordan_U> ... user wants to use your app.
[22:21] <ljunggren_> 13.10
[22:21] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, 13.10
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: reboot, hopefully you won't need a newer version than what's in the repository
[22:22] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, i have rebooted
[22:22] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: Jordan_U: ok i went into the BIOS, and found that my SSD was under legacy boot options, but my USB was under both UEFI and Legacy. I disabled UEFI, and i booted from my usb. the installer still doesnt recognize my SSD.
[22:23] <PDilyard> it wants to install on my terabyte HDD
[22:23] <garcianc> semajnad, so let me get this straight. You are chroot'ing ssh but do not want your users to access the command line?
[22:23] <PDilyard> even after yelling at it, the installer still doesnt seem to be listening to me :P
[22:23] <semajnad> garcianc: Basically I'm chrooting ssh ( which locks them in FTP to their home directory ) but don't want them access to command line.
[22:23] <semajnad> garcianc: It all works perfectly, until I set their shell back to bash
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: ok. whats's the output of: fglrxinfo
[22:24] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, sec
[22:24] <semajnad> garcianc: Would using AllowUsers option in sshd_config do?
[22:24] <semajnad> garcianc: Only just seen it on a webpage.
[22:25] <semajnad> garcianc: Just allow the users I want access
[22:25] <owen__> Jordan_U: OK point taken. I can work option into the installer. Thanks
[22:25] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, ljunggren@ljunggren-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo
[22:25] <ljunggren_> display: :0  screen: 0
[22:25] <ljunggren_> OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
[22:25] <ljunggren_> OpenGL renderer string: AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series
[22:25] <ljunggren_> OpenGL version string: 4.2.12337 Compatibility Profile Context 13.101
[22:25] <FloodBot1> ljunggren_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <ljunggren_> Sorry for no paste..
[22:25] <ljunggren_> sorry
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: looks like its loaded propperly
[22:25] <ljunggren_> awesome
[22:25] <ljunggren_> steam does not however
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren_: in what way is steam not finding your gpu?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> owen__: You're welcome.
[22:27] <ljunggren_> hitsujiTMO, nothing
[22:28] <itaylor57> I can't seem to find the REST::Cllent perl module is it there and i am just not finding it?
[22:28] <garcianc> semajnad, who owns the testing directory?
[22:29] <semajnad> Oh damn, probs is root.
[22:29] <semajnad> So they wouldn't be able to access it?
[22:29] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1484448.html would this be worth a try? the installer is not recognizing my ssd, but its recognizing my hdd
[22:30] <garcianc> semajnad, try giving that directory to the test user and see if that works
[22:30] <semajnad> garcianc: YES!
[22:30] <semajnad> garcianc: Drinks all around!
[22:31] <semajnad> garcianc: Thanks a lot, damn I know 0 about linux and having been doing this all day my minds gone to mush :/
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: not sure ... but .... can you that /dev/sda4 and try again. it might be ignoring the ssd if it thinks there's not room for it
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: can you delete that^^^^
[22:31] <PDilyard> yeah, sure.
[22:32] <garcianc> semajnad, you are welcome. You can also create a chroot directory (i.e. /home/chroot/) then a directory for each user, then in the config file use /home/chroot/%u
[22:32] <OerHeks> PDilyard, is your SSD is encrypted with windows bitlocker?
[22:32] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: just to make sure we're on the same page, i should be using the "Install Ubuntu alongside them" option right?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: yup
[22:33] <semajnad> garcianc:
[22:33] <PDilyard> OerHeks: i dont think so, its a relatively fresh install of windows. i just got the ssd earlier this week
[22:33] <semajnad> garcianc: Last problem, is I can now log in again, however when I set the user up in ssh_config and try to login to filezilla with their login it says : "Network error: Software caused connection abort"
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> OerHeks: PDilyard    he can manually install it to the sdd, the installer just won't give him the option to auto install to the ssd
[22:34] <semajnad> garcianc: It seems as though the testingaccount home directory has to be owned by root for them to be able to connect to ftp
[22:34] <semajnad> garcianc: So that's fine, I can just switch back and forth when needed
[22:35] <shevek> I'm trying to contact from my xfce desktop to an Ubuntu 13.04 standard desktop (with the icons on the left) using gajim.  Text works fine, but when I try a video call, there is a popup saying that I request a call, but there is no way to actually accept it.  On xfce, I can click on the gajim icon in the notification area to make a button appear where I can accept or reject the call.  How can I get to this button in Ubuntu?
[22:35] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: http://imagebin.org/275573
[22:36] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: i dont think the partition i created even matters unless i choose the "Something else" option
[22:38] <garcianc> semajnad, I am a little fuzzy but could you try creating a directory under /home/testing that is owned by the test user, then give /home/testing to root?
[22:38] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: http://imagebin.org/275574
[22:39] <PDilyard> thats the "Something else" option
[22:45] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: any other ideas or should i just give up and install on hdd?
[22:48] <PDilyard> http://imagebin.org/275578  this is the result of   $ sudo parted -l
[22:49] <PDilyard> but the installer doesnt show "sda" it only gives me the option of "sdb"
[22:51] <moppy> PDilyard, is this a samsung ultrabook?
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: just go ahead and install as "something else". install to /dev/sda4, tell it to mount as /, and install the bootloader to /dev/sda
[22:51] <PDilyard> moppy: its an HP Pavilion G7
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: i don't think an ultrobook comes with enough space for a second hdd :P
[22:52] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, many of them have hybrid SSD/hdd
[22:52] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: so i install bootloader to /dev/sda, then it gives me an option on where to put / ?
[22:52] <PDilyard> (i just want to make sure i dont erase anything)
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: sorry yes, forgot those exist
[22:52] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, anyway i asked as the samsung ones have this odd little bug that looks like this sometimes
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: put root in /dev/sda3
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> moppy: could be the same issue, might have common hardware
[22:53] <PDilyard> its a SanDisk 256 GB SSD and it came with a Hitachi 1 TB HDD
[22:54] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: you mean put root in /dev/sda4, right?
[22:54] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, it's basically stuff don't want to install on the  SSD part of the hybrid SSD/Hdd due to some firmware issue
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: yes, sorry
[22:54] <PDilyard> and i get that option after clicking "install now" ?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> moddy: ahh i see.. then not same issue
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: select /dev/sda4 and choose change
[22:55] <arvut> heya, a friend of mine just installed ubuntu 13.10 and stumbled upon some problems with skype, so I helped him to uninstall skype via terminal (he installed it via softwarecentre). then he installed it from this guide
[22:55] <arvut> http://www.linuxsystemhacks.com/2013/06/how-to-install-skype-42-in-ubuntu-1310.html
[22:55] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: ok
[22:55] <arvut> and it screwed up reps pretty badly
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: actualy, wait, you have no swap partiton
[22:55] <PDilyard> lol
[22:56] <PDilyard> idk what im doing if you cant tell
[22:56] <moppy> hitsujiTMO, Basically it doesnt detect it properly and you have do some weird hacks even with win7 to get it to install to the SSD; installing to the HDD is no problem. *BUT* win7 likes to create a 100MB reserved partition on the primary drive, which will fail as it's the ssd
[22:56] <moppy> so even hdd installs are a bit weird
[22:56] <moppy> anyway im going back to lurking now as he's not a samsung
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: delete /dev/sda4, create a 4gb partition for the swap as swapfs, and then create another partition for the root as ext4
[22:57] <PDilyard> ok hang on
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: another rason why it might not be allowing you to install is because the partitions are out of order.
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> reason*
[22:58] <PDilyard> how do i put them back in order?
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> you'd need to move remove /dev/sda4... move /dev/sda3 so that it's right after /dev/sda2
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: and then create /dev/sda4 and /dev/sda5 after it
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> (assuming its a gpt partition layout
[23:00] <PDilyard> how can i move it to line up against sda2?
[23:01] <PDilyard> how can i move it to line up against sda3? *
[23:01] <sourcecoy> mister synaptic wont let me check the source code on the main tab :c
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you'll have to use gparted
[23:01] <PDilyard> i am
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: drag it so it's right beside /dev/sda2
[23:04] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: should the swap be File system: linux-swap?
[23:04] <PDilyard> and label "swapfs"
[23:04] <arvut> anyone got a fresh sources.list file to share? need a new one
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you can create those in the installer.
[23:04] <PDilyard> so just leave it unformatted?
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: just leave the space unallocated
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: dont even create the partitions
[23:05] <PDilyard> just open up space
[23:05] <PDilyard> ?
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: yup... then with that try the "install alongside". and again if it won't leave you install to the sdd, choose somethign else and it will allow you to make the partitions then
[23:06] <PDilyard> okl
[23:06] <PDilyard> ok*
[23:08] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: ok so this is what i want right? http://imagebin.org/275581
[23:08] <PDilyard> 30 GB for root + 4 GB for swap?
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: yup
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: how much ram do you have?
[23:09] <PDilyard> 8 gb
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> 4gb, should be enough swap but you won't be able to hibernate
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> arvut: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[23:09] <reisio> won't be able to reliably hibernate, anyways
[23:09] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: should i up it to 8 then?
[23:10] <reisio> PDilyard: if you want to reliably hibernate
[23:10] <PDilyard> ok
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: if you don't hibernate then it's a waste of disk space
[23:11] <PDilyard> swap is used for what, exactly?
[23:11] <reisio> you could totally fit four 720p films in that much space :p
[23:11] <MonkeyDust> !swap
[23:11] <reisio> PDilyard: it's like virtual memory on Windows
[23:11] <PDilyard> ah ok
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: its virtual memeory, (if you start to run out of main memory) and the ram gets dmped there for hibernate
[23:12] <PDilyard> gotcha
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: its usually not used at all, so tends to be a waste. if you end up using swap a lot, then that means you need more ram
[23:12] <PDilyard> i think 8 is plenty for now :P
[23:13] <reisio> and for always :)
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> i never really use more than 3gb :P
[23:13] <PDilyard> the SSD is so awesome...this is the first one ive ever had
[23:13] <reisio> arguably oversized swap partitions can come in handy for more than swap, though
[23:13] <reisio> PDilyard: :)
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> swapping is a beautiful thing on a ssd
[23:14] <PDilyard> well would you guys recommend 8 gb or 4 gb then....i dont really hibernate my desktop too much
[23:15] <PDilyard> well i take that back i do at night actually
[23:16] <reisio> PDilyard: how big is the disk?
[23:16] <PDilyard> 256 GB
[23:16] <reisio> then you won't likely miss the 4gb difference, stick to 8
[23:16] <PDilyard> ok
[23:16] <_3o3_> i only have 1gb swap
[23:16] <reisio> _3o3_: super interesting
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> lol bazinga
[23:17] <_3o3_> but i never hibarnate
[23:17] <reisio> _3o3_: I'm going to put this in my memoir
[23:17] <PDilyard> not even at work? I hibernate all the time at work
[23:18] <_3o3_> i work at home :)
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> I hibernate in the winter only
[23:18] <PDilyard> im not talking about my pc
[23:18] <PDilyard> right, i hibernate during the 2:00 - 5:00 lull
[23:22] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: ok now i clicked "install alongside" and it went straight to selecting time zone...can i assume its going to the SSD?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> erm ... not sure ... i thought it did the partitioning after timezone tho.
[23:24] <PDilyard> im up to the configuring account part and it hasnt given me anything about partitioning
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> continue on, it hasn't done anything destructive yet
[23:25] <PDilyard> ok
[23:26] <CorpusCallosum> Hi Guys, using 12.04 ubuntu with gnome classic no effect. Trying to change theme with ubuntu tweak, when i add new theme folder into usr/share/themes/ even i can see it in the list of ubuntu tweak, when i change the theme, nothing change in desktop or partially change. theme is not changing fully. is this a bug or am i missing something?
[23:26] <PDilyard> it says installing system now lol
[23:26] <ozberk> hi guys I need ask a question I can^t login to google chrome browser
[23:26] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO: never gave me the option
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: ok thats very weird
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> and you definitely choose install alongside windows?
[23:27] <PDilyard> i mean i have some hope, when i was trying before, it was asking me to choose a partition size on my HDD
[23:27] <PDilyard> yes
[23:27] <PDilyard> its definitely not erasing anything
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> hopefully it could see the free space and just installed to there
[23:28] <PDilyard> and like i said, its a fresh windows install, im not afraid to do it again if this all goes horrible wrong
[23:28] <PDilyard> yeah keep your fingers crossed
[23:28] <PDilyard> lol
[23:29] <samnew> hi all
[23:29] <PDilyard> ok i'll be back to let you know how it goes
[23:29] <ozberk> are there anyone who can help me for google chrome
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: btw, when you get to the ubuntu one bit ... do not log in, and do not create an account. it can stall if you do
[23:29] <samnew> what about it
[23:30] <samnew> where can i find password list
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> !details | ozberk
[23:30] <hitsujiTMO> samnew: password list for what exactly?
[23:30] <ozberk> ok guys read my previouss message
[23:30] <ozberk> I had already wrote them
[23:30] <samnew> for using with hydra
[23:30] <ozberk> I can't login to google chrome browser
[23:31] <ozberk> because it's refresh the login page
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> ozberk: not sure what exactly you mean by can't log in. please give details
[23:32] <ozberk> hisufiTMO: ok on the google chrome click the menu button and clik that login here : google chrome
[23:32] <ozberk> that gives you a login page
[23:32] <samnew> how can unzip bz2 file in backtrack 5r3
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | samnew
[23:32] <ozberk> I wrote my password and nickname true and it refreshed the page
[23:32] <samnew> i am new
[23:33] <k1l> samnew: for backtrack support please see the backtrack channels. and cracking is not supported in here.
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> ozberk: doe sit give you an error?
[23:33] <samnew> ok
[23:33] <samnew> thanks
[23:33] <ozberk> what ? oh no there is no error
[23:33] <k1l> !backtrack | samnew
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> ozberk: if it brings you back to the login page, then there should be some sort of error message
[23:34] <ozberk> do I have to take a screen video
[23:34] <ozberk> wait a minute maybe it could be work
[23:35] <PDilyard> well im not 100% sure its on the SSD but that was the fastest boot i've ever seen so im guessing it worked
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: if it botts in about 6 seconds its prob on the ssd
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> boots*
[23:35] <PDilyard> yeah i think it was less than that even
[23:35] <PDilyard> incredibly fast
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: you can install gparted and have a look
[23:36] <PDilyard> i will
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> i presume the reason why it wasn't allowing you to install on the ssd, is because of the drives being out of order so
[23:37] <PDilyard> maybe
[23:37] <reisio> lsblk -f
[23:37] <PDilyard> sda 5 /
[23:38] <PDilyard> sda6 swap
[23:38] <PDilyard> so it worked
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: sweet
[23:38] <reisio> 5?
[23:38] <reisio> oh uefi you said?
[23:38] <PDilyard> not sure what size the swap is though
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> sda4 is prob an extended partition
[23:38] <jje_> free -h
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: no it's turns out it wasn't an uefi install
[23:39] <PDilyard> sda1 is SYSTEM, sda2 is OS, sda3 is recovery, not sure what sda4 is
[23:39] <reisio> ah
[23:39] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: you could see that from the lack of a efi system partition in gparted
[23:39] <reisio> PDilyard: lsblk -f doesn't say?
[23:39] <PDilyard> nope
[23:39] <ozberk> hitsujiTMO: I gonna give you a video link which let you see my problem clearly then you can help with it
[23:39] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: mmm, maybe if I had gparted and his system I could :)
[23:40] <PDilyard> im installing gparted now
[23:40] <reisio> PDilyard: sudo fdisk -l, then, maybe
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: he posted many inages of his filesytem on gparted :P i presumed you saw them
[23:40] <reisio> yup, I saw the creation of the world, too
[23:40] <PDilyard> sda4 is an extended partition
[23:41] <reisio> 'cause it took place in the past, like his screenshot posting
[23:41] <PDilyard> with sda5 and sda6
[23:41] <reisio> PDilyard: coo
[23:41] <PDilyard> and sda6 is swap with 7.49 GB
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: yes, you have a mbr partition table , not gpt
[23:41] <PDilyard> so it automatically worked
[23:41] <reisio> automagick
[23:41] <PDilyard> no kidding
[23:42] <PDilyard> i was scared when hitsujiTMO told me "yeah dont worry about just click next it wont do any damage yet"
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[23:42] <PDilyard> and i clicked next and it all started to install
[23:42] <reisio> heh
[23:42] <PDilyard> lol :)
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> it didn't did it? :P
[23:42] <logicals_> Hello everyone, week ago I switched to elementaryOS (I'm new linux user, I am still looking for "my linux version"). I encountered 2 funny problems, but the elementaryOS chat room isnt helping (people afk). Because elementary is based on Ubuntu may I ask here for help?
[23:42] <reisio> think if you do 'alongside' it's still automated
[23:42] <reisio> and if you do custom you get the partitioner
[23:42] <PDilyard> hitsujiTMO, well yeah, technically you were right
[23:42] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, I have purchased a 32G usb and made backup. I would like to install 12.04 to wipe 12.04.3 and 13.10, keeping Windows XP
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> logicals_: elementaryos is not supported here
[23:43] <logicals_> ok :S
[23:43] <zykotick9> logicals_: #ubuntu ONLY supports official ubuntu releases... so NO, don't ask here.
[23:43] <ozberk> still uplo<ading ( oh God it's so slow for 6 seconds video )
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> intrader, YOU gots a XP disc to reload the mbr so you can actually boot it?
[23:43] <PDilyard> and whoever told me not to sign into ubuntu one right before i left, im installing 12.04, it didnt try to get me to login to One
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: alongside was initially giving him the option of putting it on sdb ... it didn't even give him that option
[23:43] <reisio> think ubuntu one postdates 12.04?
[23:43] <logicals_> Well its more about software, not system problem
[23:43] <kamori> I'm starting my first LFS install.. And trying wget-list will wget tell me if one of my download fails?
[23:44] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: what didn't?
[23:44] <PDilyard> reisio, the installer wasnt showing sda
[23:44] <PDilyard> only sdb
[23:44] <reisio> kamori: yup
[23:44] <beepbeep> quick question.  my keyboard has volume control buttons on it. whenever i hit volume up/down, ubuntu plays a beep.  How can I turn this beeping off?
[23:44] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, no I don't - previous installs have been able to boot into Windows XP. What is the problem?
[23:44] <kamori> reisio, thank you
[23:44] <reisio> PDilyard: in the partitioning phase?
[23:44] <PDilyard> yeah
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: the install "alongside"
[23:45] <reisio> beepbeep: it's coming from your speakers?
[23:45] <reisio> PDilyard: neat
[23:45] <beepbeep> reisio:  yeah
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: as he didn't see phase 5 here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[23:46] <PDilyard> well thank you guys so much. this community is really helpful! especially hitsujiTMO ;)
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: i presumed you were installing 13.10, which has the ubuntu one bug
[23:46] <PDilyard> np
[23:47] <PDilyard> brb restarting...time me
[23:47] <jubale> Is it possible to have the old gnome menus at top and also have unity launcher as a "quick start" area?
[23:47] <intrader> hitsujiTMO, yesterday I repaired the boot record thinking that was the problem with 12.04.3. I will try to boot into XP now to verify
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> jubale, No.
[23:48] <PDilyard> not bad
[23:48] <reisio> jubale: probably be a fair amount of work
[23:48] <reisio> jubale: there are a lot of other launchers though
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Heh, empty promises. ;)
[23:48] <reisio> wilee-nilee: ?
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Old gnome, a gnome2 menu, in unity is my interpretation.
[23:50] <tfh> hi, after I upgraded ubuntu to 13.10, my keyboard layout (language) switching shortcut stopped working. I looked online and found a few entries on askubuntu about a bug and that there is an unofficial patch to fix it, I tried that and it still doesn't work ... or I don't understand what the words mean in the short cut, so I want to be able to switch by pressing the Left Alt and Shit keys, but that doesn't work
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> could be wrong been before. ;)
[23:51] <reisio> wilee-nilee: yeah, and?
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> reisio, It was a joke man.
[23:51] <semajnad> garcianc: Looks like for now I need to comment out the lines in ssh_config if I wanna connect through SSH then uncomment them to let FTP access lock to directory again.
[23:53] <garcianc> semajnad, I am convinced that it is a permissions issue. Take a look at this article, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/ . It gives a pretty good idea of what the permissions should look like.
[23:53] <gassho> how come synaptic package manager not make a select on the source code
[23:53] <gassho> in the preferencerences
[23:53] <semajnad> garcianc: Okay, thanks.
[23:53] <reisio> wilee-nilee: just didn't make sense :p
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> A user that has to ask to begin with is a big red flag, will they follow through I doubt it, that is a bit oh tweaking.
[23:54] <garcianc> semajnad, look at step 6.
[23:55] <semajnad> garcianc: Thanks a lot for that, that's a great detailed guide. Think i'll follow that one tomorrow with a new test user and see how it goes, otherwise I think my brains will start leaking out my ears.
[23:55] <reisio> wilee-nilee: not sure where that leaves people in a channel for answering questions... :p
[23:56] <garcianc> semajnad, no problem. Good luck tomorrow
[23:56] <semajnad> garcianc: Thanks, and thanks again for all the help.
[23:56] <blurkis> Hi!  Is there some guide on how to install gnome 3.10 in ubuntu 13.10?
[23:57] <ozberk> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByocQCqkVwW_QW9hQnJZaERlNmM/edit?usp=sharing
[23:57] <ozberk> ok guys
[23:58] <ozberk> that's my issue
[23:58] <ozberk> with google chrome
[23:58] <ozberk> if anyone watch this video please help me :S
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> reisio, mixing gnome2 and 3 is not really a channel issue, I was just joking, and typing while you answered with " there are a lot of other launchers though" I saw just "probably be a fair amount of work" the channel can seem detached at times if you type slow like I do.
[23:59] <reisio> blurkis: some reason you need 3.10?
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> I have to look at the keys when I type in other words