[04:59] <sally10> is this a South African channel?
[05:13] <Kilos> morning all
[05:13] <Kilos> hi sally10 welcome to ubuntu-za
[05:14] <sally10> hi Kilos
[05:14] <Kilos> are you here for ubuntu help or have you come to help us?
[05:15] <sally10> is this about the linux flavor, or the real Ubuntu?
[05:15] <Kilos> the linux flavour
[05:15] <sally10> oh
[05:15] <sally10> I was looking for South African channels
[05:16] <sally10> are there any? like social channels?
[05:16] <Kilos> hang around, someone will let you know.
[05:17] <sally10> ok, sure
[05:17] <Kilos> i see you know irc so thats good
[06:28] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:07] <Kilos> morning nlsthzn 
[07:11] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos 
[07:49] <kbmonkey> morning Kilos - I see your appeal
[07:50] <Kilos> ah thats good
[07:50] <Kilos> morning kbmonkey 
[07:50] <kbmonkey> yes
[07:50] <Kilos> hope it gets some results
[07:50] <kbmonkey> holds thumbs and tails
[07:50] <Kilos> hahaha
[07:51] <kbmonkey> I wish I had some breakfast today. I feel hungry!
[07:51] <Kilos> installing kubuntu 13.10 on other pc
[07:51] <kbmonkey> nice
[07:51] <kbmonkey> Im playing with Milkytracker
[07:51] <Kilos> aw aint you got pronutro?
[07:51] <kbmonkey> no man that is babys food
[07:52] <Kilos> it is the healthiest cereal out there
[07:52] <kbmonkey> ;)
[07:52] <Kilos> can be fed to anything even goldfish
[07:52] <kbmonkey> I got roasted and rolled oats muesli thing
[07:52] <Kilos> so pretend you a baby at times and get some
[07:52] <kbmonkey> I like that plan as long as I dont have to wear diapers
[07:53] <Kilos> rofl
[07:53] <kbmonkey> rofl
[07:53] <Kilos> seriously healthy food that you can live on it
[07:54] <Kilos> and its very lekker, 
[07:55] <kbmonkey> I just pulling my leg. I like pronuto I just don't have any today. needs shopping trip.
[07:55] <Kilos> lol
[07:56] <kbmonkey> fridge is empty!
[07:56] <Kilos> hey we gotta think about trying to promote this channel more
[07:56] <kbmonkey> I been very bad with it lately ha ha
[07:56] <Kilos> or make the existing adds or so more obvious
[07:57] <Kilos> shopping is a pain
[07:57] <Kilos> there are lotsa peeps using ubuntu that dont know we exist
[07:57] <kbmonkey> its all about numbers. most people wont bother as they on all the other IM and chats like fb or whatnot.
[07:58] <kbmonkey> so they are not curious enough to try something new
[07:58] <Kilos> no man some dont know we have a help channel
[07:58] <kbmonkey> I used 'buntu for maybe 2 years before I joined irc
[07:59] <Kilos> found a ballie on #libreoffice looking for help with a crashing unity
[07:59] <kbmonkey> maybe 1.5 years
[07:59] <kbmonkey> eish
[07:59] <kbmonkey> I get tired hearing somuch of crashing unity. it is very sad :(
[07:59] <Kilos> on our west coast
[08:00] <Kilos> no man they dont all know about update/upgrade and using ppas
[08:00] <Kilos> like he ppaed the latest libreoffice then unity kept hanging
[08:00] <Kilos> and that channel dont answer help much
[08:02] <Kilos> sjoe 13.04 is faster
[08:02] <Kilos> installed on old p4 in 15 mins about
[08:04] <Kilos> slow to reboot though
[08:04] <kbmonkey> remember Gnome is a mature project. It was born in 1997. It was a hasty move to push unity to the main stream so you get these problems now and then.
[08:05] <kbmonkey> wow that is quick Kilos !
[08:05] <Kilos> and no need to turn off desktop effects even with scrapped graphics card
[08:05] <Kilos> this is kde 
[08:05] <Kilos> 12.04 took 30 mins to install there
[08:06] <Kilos> just a bit blue the background. too close to win for me
[08:07] <Kilos> when you going to ubuntu kbmonkey ?
[08:07] <kbmonkey> the last one I used was 10.10 (I think)
[08:08] <kbmonkey> or 11.04
[08:08] <Kilos> oh if you know of irc social channels in za tell sally
[08:08] <kbmonkey> I am not sure I am going back to Ubuntu Kilos - Once Unity came in I decided to adventure into new territory
[08:08] <Kilos> this 13.04 kde looks good
[08:09] <kbmonkey> that kde plasma
[08:09] <Kilos> i also have a prob with unity later than 12.04 but the kde has got better imo
[08:09] <Kilos> yeah
[08:09] <Kilos> will do update/upgrade if i can stay awake tonight
[08:10] <Kilos> kde has got more tools for your kinda clever peeps i think
[08:10] <kbmonkey> I tell my pc to turn off in x hours at night. it is useful.
[08:11] <kbmonkey> kde has a lot of 'widgets' and 'applets' and things
[08:11] <kbmonkey> not an applet man myself. 
[08:11] <kbmonkey> I like the simple things in life ;)
[08:13] <kbmonkey> irc social channels? can you explain a bit more please?
[08:16] <Kilos> i dunno i suppose she meant where peeps get together and just chat
[08:16] <Kilos> we must try get her to use ubuntu
[08:17] <kbmonkey> chat here :D
[08:17] <Kilos> hehe
[08:17] <kbmonkey> there are 100's of channels here for various projects. freenode is for project discussion.
[08:17] <Kilos> this new kde is really good
[08:18] <kbmonkey> other irc servers exist - enter at your own risk
[08:18] <Kilos> im sorry now i didnt use that data to upgrade my 12.04 kde
[08:18] <Kilos> she seems to know irc because i see she is masked
[08:19] <Kilos> oh not anymore
[08:19] <Kilos> maybe im mistook
[08:20] <Kilos> hey kbmonkey you must study man
[08:20] <Kilos> there linux engineer jobs going there in durbs
[08:21] <kbmonkey> like the first time I see a linux job position in years
[08:23] <kbmonkey> this job thing is really a waste of one's life
[08:24] <kbmonkey> at least the current job is
[08:25] <Kilos> ya but difficult to start on your own until everyone knows about you
[08:37] <kbmonkey> what if you have a condition where you dont want everyone to know about you Kilos ?
[08:37] <kbmonkey> then is it impossibly difficult?
[08:38] <Kilos> yeah but thats where the work comes from
[08:38] <Kilos> hard to start off on your own
[08:38] <Kilos> no income for a long time
[09:04] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[12:19] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[12:19] <charl_> and everyone else
[12:19] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[12:19]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:23] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[12:25] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[12:26] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[12:26] <Kilos> hi charl the new kubuntu is lekker hey
[12:29] <charl_> exactly, it's really smooth and fast !
[12:39] <Kilos> yeah installed in 15 mins on my slower pc
[12:48] <Kilos> now i want it here but will need to wait for 11pm to do update/upgrade
[12:50] <charl_> i am pretty happy right here with i3 on my laptop because i like to use keyboard navigation (using the touchpad sucks)
[12:51] <charl_> at work i'm using gnome3 on debian7 atm which is also good enough
[12:51] <charl_> but i still think kde4 is all-round the best desktop there is at the moment
[12:52] <Kilos> i will see after an upgrade so i can see how everything works
[12:55] <magespawn> Howdy all
[12:56] <Kilos> hi magespawn howsit
[12:56] <magespawn> Good and you?
[12:57] <Kilos> good ty, 13.04 kde is great
[12:57] <Kilos> will geive more feedback tomorrow
[12:57] <Kilos> very fast
[12:59] <magespawn> Cool beans, i saw the request for hard drives, i only have very old ones
[13:00] <Kilos> i have everything from 40g's that need parts
[13:00] <Kilos> but just keep eyes open everywhere. dont let others throw away drives please
[13:07] <magespawn> Will do, allm
[13:07] <Kilos> and seagate 500g seem to have had a bad spell . have 2 here
[13:07] <magespawn> All the old ones are really small
[13:07] <Kilos> one with card messed up and other with reader bust
[13:07] <Kilos> ah ok np
[13:07] <Kilos> ill keep hoping
[13:08] <Kilos> hows things there lad
[13:08] <magespawn> Hah, bonamanzi.co.za just got cracked
[13:08] <Kilos> oh my
[13:08] <Kilos> no security
[13:09] <Kilos> mind you launchpad also got cracked a while back
[13:09] <magespawn> Not sure but will have to sort it out, it did have joomla asma cms
[13:10] <Kilos> thats to help you to get them to go all linux
[13:10] <magespawn> S/asma/ as a
[13:10] <Kilos> im sure there are linux crackers out there as well though
[13:11] <Kilos> cant all be good peeps that get IT training
[13:11] <magespawn> Just not as many, i think is was just a bored kid or something like that
[13:13] <magespawn> S/is/it
[13:13] <Kilos> ya acting clever
[13:13] <Kilos> is it sposed to be capital S/
[13:13] <Kilos> i always use small one
[13:14] <Kilos> hate using caps
[13:16] <magespawn> No small is right, this program i am using makes the first one a capital automatically
[13:16] <Kilos> eish
[13:16] <Kilos> like cell fones
[13:18] <magespawn> I am taking the kids down to the river , chat later
[13:19] <Kilos> cool
[15:26] <Kilos> too much stress here. need to replace my 12.04 kde with 13.10
[15:27] <Kilos> bbl
[16:04] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:04]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:08] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks man
[16:08] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[16:09] <Kilos> no bunch
[16:38] <Kilos> haha got a 80g samsung that only shows as 38g with disk utility
[17:01] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn wb
[17:01] <Kilos> you having a good break
[17:01] <Kilos> ?
[17:02] <nlsthzn> alo, thanks 
[17:02] <nlsthzn> always :)
[17:02] <Kilos> haha
[17:15] <Kilos> wbb
[17:45] <magespawn> evening all
[17:47] <kbmonkey> hello magespawn 
[17:48] <kbmonkey> how goes it? can you also hear fireworks this entire weekend?
[17:48] <magespawn> hey kbmonkey 
[17:48] <magespawn> not here in hluhluwe, not many Hindu people here
[17:50] <magespawn> i have a general sort of question: if i have root accessto your bare metal server how do you get me off?
[17:51] <kbmonkey> oh yes, I though it was for guy falkes or some other.
[17:51] <magespawn> Diwali I think
[17:52] <kbmonkey> if you have root's password to my server, I can block your IP from ssh'ing in - best protection is to change the password though
[17:52] <magespawn> okay assume that if i had root access i will have locked you out
[17:52] <kbmonkey> if it is via ssh you should not use passwords anyway - use gpg keys for authentication and disable remote password logins
[17:53] <kbmonkey> oh, I see..
[17:53] <kbmonkey> If you locked me out? that is pretty serious - reboot the server in recovery mode and reset root password from there (single user mode)
[17:54] <kbmonkey> you need physical access to do that
[17:54] <magespawn> which yuo could only really do if you had physical access to the machine?
[17:54] <kbmonkey> recovery mode boots to a root console, thenyou can "passwd root"
[17:55] <magespawn> right just wanted some conformation of what i suspected, lots of politics at work
[17:55] <kbmonkey> correct. without physical access and no way to log in, you cannot recover the root account.
[17:55] <kbmonkey> hmm, it sounds harsh.
[17:58] <magespawn> right back just had to change connection
[17:58] <kbmonkey> roger
[18:03] <kbmonkey> so magespawn are you the one locked out, or was it a question to see if somebody else could get back in?
[18:03]  * kbmonkey puts the monocale on
[18:06] <magespawn> no i am not the one locked out
[18:07] <magespawn> the works joomla website was cracked today, and the 'other' it person claims it was done by a script on the server with root access
[18:08] <kbmonkey> man, that is some claim, and how did it get on there in the first place. 
[18:08] <magespawn> quote 'this is a script that some one have run in the server with root access that affects every one on that server
[18:08] <magespawn> '
[18:09] <magespawn> exactly you would need some sort of access alrready that you could somehow elevate to root
[18:12] <kbmonkey> indeed.
[18:13] <magespawn> it was a joomla cms, on apache, presumable on some sort of linux os
[18:15] <magespawn> I think they host themselves, though how and where I have no idea
[18:16] <magespawn> I feel a little like a mushroom sometimes, lol
[18:18] <kbmonkey> A goomba mushroom?
[18:18] <kbmonkey> those guys in Mario Bros 
[18:19] <magespawn> if they are kept in the dark and fed on manure
[18:23] <kbmonkey> they love that though, so it may not be your calling if that is the case :p
[18:52] <magespawn> how do you do your job if that is the case then?
[18:56] <magespawn> brb
[18:56] <magespawn> exit
[19:01] <Kilos> guten abend mein herren
[19:01] <Kilos> abent
[19:02] <Kilos> daai ding
[19:02] <Kilos> herren is more than one her hey?
[19:04] <Kilos> hey kbmonkey 
[19:05] <Kilos> you okes all in suspended animation
[19:05] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos - magespawn was just in. said brb
[19:05] <Kilos> such weird things happen here
[19:06] <Kilos> 13.04 kde installed like a bomb on old single core pc but here it sukkels and hangs
[19:06] <kbmonkey> good night Kilos I am off
[19:06] <Kilos> almost like the old one bust the boot stick
[19:06] <Kilos> night kbmonkey sleep tight
[19:07] <kbmonkey> feeling hot and dizzy
[19:07] <Kilos> oh no
[19:07] <kbmonkey> going to step away from the screen
[19:07] <Kilos> good
[19:07] <Kilos> rest well work tomorrow
[19:07] <kbmonkey> yup. gonna make more tea.
[19:07] <Kilos> hope you get better
[19:07] <kbmonkey> hope magespawn comes back.
[19:08] <Kilos> whew you worry me
[19:08] <Kilos> not enough pronutro
[19:26] <superfly> kbmonkey: I don't use the "widgets and applets and things" in KDE
[19:26] <Kilos> lol hes just looking for excuses not to use ubuntu superfly good evening
[19:27] <Kilos> all good there with you and family?
[19:33] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[19:33] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[19:33] <magespawn> did not see you lurking there
[19:33] <Kilos> hehe i was away earlier
[19:33] <magespawn> ah right
[19:33] <Kilos> monkey sick
[19:34] <Kilos> hot and dizzy
[19:34] <magespawn> ahh, nice to have a bit of a chat though
[19:34] <magespawn> needs a doctor then
[19:34] <Kilos> he opened the window and influenza
[19:34] <Kilos> he isnt a well guy
[19:35] <Kilos> shame
[19:35] <Kilos> you ready for another week of it
[19:36] <magespawn> indeed, altough i was at work briefly today
[19:36] <Kilos> ah with the hacking prob
[19:37] <magespawn> no strangely enough not, those computers are nowhere near the property, this was a failed network cable
[19:37] <Kilos> ai!
[19:37] <Kilos> how do cables fail
[19:37] <Kilos> what do they make then out of
[19:38] <magespawn> this was an ethernet cable, might be at one or other of the ends, or from electricity or such
[19:38] <magespawn> copper and plastic
[19:39] <Kilos> ai!
[19:39] <magespawn> it can happen
[19:39] <Kilos> without movement?
[19:40] <magespawn> yup but there are also some seriously funny ways of putting in cable
[19:41] <Kilos> ai!. ok then lad have a good evening
[19:41] <Kilos> last night was too late for me
[19:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:41] <magespawn> all sorts of way for a cable to fail
[19:41] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[19:41] <magespawn> good night Kilos 
[19:42] <Kilos> ya man but not normally if the dont move or get rust and stuff
[19:42] <Kilos> um
[19:42] <Kilos> tarnish oxidization etc
[19:42] <Kilos> sleep tight