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* apachelogger shurgs at bug 119417900:03
ubottubug 1194179 in strigi (Ubuntu) "Strigi won't start: "unknown backend type: clucene"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119417900:03
xnoxapachelogger: i'm confused why the user would want strigi without kde.... and also how would one use it =/02:15
soeegood morning\07:18
lordievaderGood morning.07:51
jalcineMorning!08:34
jalcineI really should be sleeping, but the lure of IRC lol08:34
lordievaderHey jalcine, how are you? Tired?08:34
jalcineI'm actually not too tired08:35
jalcinelordievader: water and a bit of classical music always keeps me up08:35
jalcineI'm hoping to hel more people online so I can get more in tune with KDE users08:35
jalcine*help08:35
lordievaderjalcine: Your machine runs on water and classical music, nice ;)08:36
jalcineLol that'd be amazing but nah, just a plain i3 8GB here08:36
apacheloggerxnox: strigi (i.e. strigi-utils, strigi-plugins and strigi-daemon) is not even part of the plasma experience, nepomuk replaced that entirely. libstreams and libstramanalyzer OTOH provide general purpose stdlib c++ API for parsing files, much like taglib except more generic.08:56
apacheloggerso the actually strigi source package should be removed due to brokeness08:56
apacheloggerof course I had not had any coffee yet so I may be wrong ;)08:57
* jalcine slides mug of coffee over to apachelogger08:58
apachelogger\o/ thanks08:59
shadeslayermorning :)09:37
shadeslayerrbelem: happy birthday!09:38
Riddellmorning all09:39
Riddellhappy birthday yofel and rbelem!09:39
valorierbelem: I miss you too!09:40
valorieand happy birthday to you and Alex09:40
valorieand again to yofel09:40
Riddellwhich alex has a birthday?09:42
valorieafiestas09:42
valorieI guess09:42
shadeslayeryep09:42
valorieapachelogger threw him a party already 09:42
valorienot sure if he got that fine whisky though09:43
RiddellBon aniversari afiestas!09:43
afiestasRiddell: hehehehe gràcies ! 09:44
valorievery nice to have a triplet birthday!09:46
* valorie passes afiestas the Balvenie Doublewood and a glass09:46
smartboyhwHappy birthday yofel:)09:47
apacheloggeroh god09:51
apacheloggerthe madness continues09:52
apacheloggerwaaa09:52
* valorie shares the Balvenie Doublewood with apachelogger09:52
valoriehere, have a little splash of water with that09:53
apacheloggereww, water09:53
apacheloggerdo you want me to rust?09:53
valoriefine, neat09:54
valorieNO ICE09:54
apacheloggerhttps://www.ice.gov/09:58
valoriethey would be no fun either10:00
soeeyofel, when do you plan to move 4.11.3 to updates ?11:33
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:33
soeegi BluesKaj 11:33
BluesKajhet soee`11:34
BluesKaj:)11:34
shadeslayerRiddell: who was working on updating KDevelop?11:34
soeehat :)11:34
yofelsoee: tomorrow11:41
soeeyofel, nice thank you11:42
Riddellshadeslayer: nobody that I know of11:45
shadeslayerack11:45
shadeslayeronto it11:45
yofelhm.......11:47
yofeldoes someone by chance have an unused n900 that s/he could give/lend me? ^^"11:47
yofelI kinda have a problem here... http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/2013-11-04%2012.43.27.jpg11:48
shadeslayer0.o11:51
kubotu::runtime-bugs:: [1247802] language KCM sets incorrect LANGUAGE @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247802 (by Gabor Vas)11:56
apacheloggeryofel: time for a new phone12:01
apacheloggerIIRC jolla is supposed to come out with their meego bastard thing12:01
yofelack, still need to get my data off the current one though. Can't use usb for.. obvious reasons, and the battery is empty.12:02
yofelAs one of the pins is broken I'll get a new micro usb jack in town later and solder that on the board. *should* work - I hope12:02
apacheloggerwhere's the data stored anyway12:03
apacheloggeror on what12:03
smartboyhwyofel: Install Ubuntu Touch? ;) Or maybe Plasma Active?12:03
yofelpartly on microSD, partly on internal storage - latter is the hard part, as it includes the phone numbers etc.12:04
yofelsmartboyhw: uhm, I have a *hardware*, not software issue ;P12:04
smartboyhwyofel: I know, I mean after you fixed the phone;)12:04
apacheloggeryofel: you should learn to sync phone numbas into the cloud12:15
apacheloggeranyway I should have an n900 somewhere12:16
shadeslayer^^12:22
shadeslayergive your data to Google12:22
shadeslayermuwhahaha12:22
yofelwell, I guess the fact that I try not to do that makes me an odd person these days12:23
apacheloggerwell doesn't have to be google really12:24
apacheloggernot having looked into it at some point phones were able to import vcards, and since everyone can export vcards you don't necessarily need the cloud at all12:25
shadeslayercould setup a CardDAV 12:25
shadeslayerusing kolab12:25
yofelgood point, I'll look into that12:30
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1247827] plasma-desktop hang. with kernel callstack @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1247827 (by Albert Zeyer)13:51
shadeslayerkubotu: np13:59
shadeslayer~np13:59
shadeslayer....13:59
Riddellshadeslayer: you're telling kubotu no problem?14:02
kubotuafternoon, Riddell14:02
shadeslayernow playing]14:02
Riddellsee he likes me :)14:02
Riddellaah14:02
shadeslayersilly broken bot14:02
shadeslayerapachelogger probably fed him too much whisky14:02
apachelogger*shrug*14:03
apacheloggerkubotu: plugin list14:03
apacheloggerbrr14:03
apacheloggerkubotu: help lastfm14:03
kubotuno help for topic lastfm14:03
apacheloggerkubotu: help14:03
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apacheloggerkubotu: help failed plugins14:03
kubotushortenurls.rb in /home/apachelogger/rbot/data/rbot/plugins failed with error LoadError: no such file to load -- shorturl14:03
kubotutwitter.rb in /home/apachelogger/rbot/data/rbot/plugins failed with error LoadError: no such file to load -- oauth14:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: no such plugin14:04
apacheloggeryou are drunk14:04
apacheloggergo to bed14:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: no lastfm plugin? :O14:08
shadeslayerIt was there14:08
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RiddellI stopped using lastfm when they killed off the desktop client14:10
RiddellI feel a little bad for not just getting a subscription14:11
Riddellbut only a little14:11
* shadeslayer just uses spotify now14:13
Riddellproprietary software makes me feel dirty14:15
apacheloggerwell14:16
apacheloggerthe music aint free14:16
apacheloggerwhy should the service feeding it to you be? :P14:17
apacheloggerpyth0rn is giving me headaches14:17
Riddellcreative vs technical content14:18
apacheloggerdunno about you, but my code most certainly is proper art14:19
shadeslayerheh14:19
* Riddell strokes apachelogger's goatie14:19
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm368W0OsHo14:20
tester56hi, kubuntu uses for oxygen icons a folder structure like: 8x8, 16x16, ... scalable and this folders contain subfolders like actions, emblems etc. but there are also icon themes that structure in another way (first actions, emblems and then the resolutions) ... now I would like to know: which way the deprecated one?14:57
Riddelltester56: oxygen follows the freedesktop icon name spec15:01
Riddellif it's the other way around then it's wrong15:01
tester56kfaenza from kdelook structes first things like actions etc. and then the resolutions as subfolders15:02
tester56Riddell: could you provide a link to that specification?15:03
Riddellgg:freedesktop icon name spec15:03
Riddellhttp://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html15:03
tester56thank you!15:04
tester56Riddell: When the icon theme is changed, the applications categories icons shown in the applications tab of kickoff are changed according to the icon theme. Is this upstream behaviour or part of the kubuntu conifiguration? (asking because in other distros that does not work, I am gald it works in kubuntu thogh :-))15:18
Riddelltester56: doesn't sound like one of our patches15:22
Riddelltester56: probably something to do with file watches which can be flakey, nice we're doing it right in kubuntu :)15:23
tester56but the categories specified for apps is not distro specific? (the things you can define in kmenuedit)15:24
Riddelltester56: nope, they're from the freedesktop menu spec15:28
tester56Riddell: do you know where the settings of kmenuedit are saved? (both icon settings and categories) 15:29
Riddellhmm, is it ~/.config15:31
Riddellsomething like that15:31
Riddellagain, it'll be in the freedesktop menu spec15:31
apacheloggerScottK: did you see a muon notification for available distro upgrade on saucy?15:31
Riddellapachelogger: I did test for that and it did appear, I've also seen other people report it appear valorie I think15:32
apacheloggerI was hoping I am imagining things -.- 15:32
apacheloggerRiddell, valorie: did you notice anything out of the ordinary when that happened?15:32
Riddellapachelogger: nope, press systray icon and upgrade tool appears15:34
apacheloggermh15:34
apacheloggerbut it shouldn't happen :P15:35
apachelogger    if (exitStatus == 0)15:35
apachelogger        m_distUpgradeEvent->show();15:35
Riddellwhat shouldn't?15:35
apacheloggerit only ever exits with 0 when the python thing actually found a new dist15:35
apacheloggerRiddell: the notification shouldn't appear15:35
Riddellwhy not?15:35
apacheloggerthey are different noticiations15:36
Riddellwhat is?15:36
apacheloggerthe systray notification15:36
apacheloggeryou can get one for upgrades15:36
apacheloggerand you can get one for distro upgrades15:36
Riddellyes15:36
apacheloggerthe distro upgrade one is bound to python update-manager thingum finding a new_dist15:36
apacheloggerwhich it can't because muon does not support checking for devel releases15:37
apacheloggerso it should not show that notification15:37
apacheloggerbecause the python thing never exists with 0 because there is no new dist15:37
apacheloggerit all makes no sense15:37
Riddellit should if there's a new final release15:38
Riddellnot if there's a devel release15:38
apacheloggermy point is, it cannot detect the devel release15:39
apacheloggerit's hardcoded to only check for stable15:39
Riddellwell yes, that's all anyone running muon cares about15:41
Riddellwant a devel release use kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade15:41
apacheloggerright15:52
apacheloggerso why does the notification come up :P15:52
tester56Riddell: thx so far: the menu structure is defined in /etc/xdg/menus/kde4-applications.menu ... but I cannot figure out which file configures the icons for that15:53
apacheloggertester56: /usr/share/desktop-directories/ IIRC15:55
Riddellyep15:55
Riddelle.g. Icon=applications-education15:55
tester56GREAT: thx guys15:56
tester56I really appreciate the great support here!15:56
Riddelltester56: it's all in the expectation that you become an elite kubuntu contributor soon :)16:10
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger any ideas why qapt generates a dbgsym package for each binary package?16:10
shadeslayerInstead of just one for the entire source16:11
yofelbecause you're building with pkg-create-dbgsym or something like that?16:11
apacheloggerbecause dbgsym works like that :P16:12
tester56Riddell: I will try my best ... though I have to learn a lot before ... atm I am busy with graduating from school, but as soon as that is finished I could seriously focus in getting involved ... in the meantime I will try to test and write bug reports16:16
shadeslayeryofel: sure, I just thought dbgsym makes one dbg package for each source16:16
shadeslayeror atleast that's what I remember?16:16
ScottKapachelogger: No.16:33
yofelshadeslayer: nope, one for each binary18:59
Blizzzi believe my graphics card hates external monitors. fan is going full-steam while cpu tempareture is just below 90°C19:07
Blizzzwell around 78-85°C19:07
ovidiu-florinquick question: whatdo you guys use for IM (instant messaging) ?? What protocol, service?19:14
ovidiu-florinbesides IRC19:15
geniiovidiu-florin: Jabber and ICQ here.19:20
BluesKajICQ ...wow there's a blast form the past19:22
geniiBluesKaj: My ICQ number is really old, only 5 digits19:22
BluesKajwhat jabber client , genii ?19:23
geniiBluesKaj: Actually right now I'm using btlbee to redirect it to my Quassel19:23
BluesKajtried jabber for a while waaaayback19:24
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