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gassho:D01:27
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snaxmoin.05:57
snaxIs it possible to use Qt 5.1 ?05:57
snaxon kubuntu05:57
snaxerr is it in apt?05:58
jalcinesnax: it's part of Ubuntu's SDK05:58
jalcineso you'd have to install Canonical's PPA for installing the Ubuntu SDK and then install Qt5.105:59
jalcineer, Qt5.005:59
jalcineI don't think 5.1 has been packaged as of yet05:59
snaxDo most consumers still use Qt4 still ?06:00
snaxThere aren't even books on Qt5 yet.06:00
jalcineI'd lie if I said it's not widely available06:00
valorieor use Project Neon06:00
valorie#project-neon06:00
jalcineit's probably already packaged and ready in Arch Linux (I've attended a Tizen hackathon and saw it in a friend's package manager)06:01
valoriefor more information06:01
jalcinesnax: valorie's suggestion is a more natural and safer suggestion06:01
snaxok thanks06:01
jalcinealso comes with the latest and greatest (though dangerous for production use) version of KDE06:01
genii!info libqt5core5 trusty06:01
valoriedailies, yes06:01
ubottulibqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (trusty), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB06:01
geniiHm.06:02
Unit193!info libqt5core5 unstable06:02
ubottulibqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.1+dfsg-5 (unstable), package size 1588 kB, installed size 4721 kB06:02
Unit193:D06:02
* genii slides Unit193 a tasty coffee06:02
jalcine!info libqt5core5 saucy06:21
ubottulibqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (saucy), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB06:21
jalcineah, so saucy comes with Qt5 (probably due to the inclusion of ubuntu-sdk)06:21
jalcinesnax: if you're around and you're running 13.10/saucy, Qt5.0.2 is in your standard repos;06:21
draguIn new kubuntu release please extend apt-get by adding "apt-get downgrade"06:59
genii!downgrade07:05
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.07:05
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draguubottu: I'm used after the last update07:39
ubottudragu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:39
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lordievaderGood morning.07:51
lordievaderdragu: What do you want to downgrade exactly? From 13.10 to 13.04?07:52
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dragulordievader: everything07:58
lordievaderdragu: So from 13.10 to 13.04? Yes this is not supported. Only way to go would be a reinstall of Raring.08:01
dragulordievader: I know, that's why I'm very unhappy08:02
draguso many things doesn't work08:02
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jalcinedragu: it'd help us help you if you explained what wasn't working08:34
excognachi all08:56
dragujalcine: for example bluetooth mouse, after awake it's  hard to make it work. When connection is fine, but mouse jams09:00
excognacI added multiply languages in kubuntu 13.10, for some reason my terminal started to use portuguese but all other applications are in English. (i want everything in English) how do i set it back?09:00
jalcinedragu: I can't remember 100% but I know some heavy bluetooth changes have been made in the upgrade09:01
jalcineI know because my phone and headphones got borked too09:01
jalcinebut I just removed the old profiles from my config and addded them back in bluedevil and they worked09:01
jalcineexcognac: I can understand the shell, if you do 'env | grep LC'; you'll see09:01
jalcinebut you might have not set the default system language to be Portuguese09:02
excognacjalcine: i never did just added 4 languages in System Settings>Locale09:02
excognacjalcine: http://pastebin.kde.org/pd80mhyn709:03
excognacthat's aint funny09:03
jalcinehaha good one ;)09:04
jalcineI think changing the locale options *might* require a login/logoff to take full effect. kdeinit is still using the older LC_* values09:04
jalcinethough I think it should be able to hotswap those values when you change the language09:05
excognacjalcine: shall i try to reboot and see what happens?M09:07
jalcineIf a reboot isn't too long, otherwise a login/logout would be safe since it cycles kdeinit09:08
excognacjalcine: logged out and in, terminal does the same09:10
excognacjalcine: and the command has the same output09:10
jalcinevery interesting. try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and select english as your default term locale09:11
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lordievaderexcognac: Or edit /etc/default/locale manually.09:13
jalcinehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale#Troubleshooting might help as well09:14
jalcineah, beat me to it09:14
excognacjalcine: ty worked09:18
jalcineexcognac: sweet!09:22
excognaci'm trying to add a network printer. what's the differnce between PCX and PCL drivers?09:24
excognac*PXL and PCL09:24
excognacanybody has too much freetime and help me to set up a network printer? (Canon i-sensys MF9170 connected with X-cable to router)09:35
jussiexcognac: where are you at with it ?09:35
excognacjussi: well, the printer has a superfancy panel, i can set shit load of things. i set now at Ipv4 settings>ip adress and BOOTP. i cant see it with ping <ip address>09:39
jussiexcognac: have you installed the driver from canon on your PC?09:39
excognacjussi: i did, it worked fine on another machine with usb.09:40
jussiexcognac: yeah, so the network thing is the issue. all I can say is "keep fiddling" - its a bit hard without having any of the interfaces in front of me/or experience with the printer09:41
jussisorry :/09:41
excognacjussi: np, just opne thing: which of these protocols should be the least problematic?  DHCP BOOTP RARP?09:44
jussidhcp09:44
jussithat means it takes the assigned address given by the router09:45
excognacjussi: how do i find what the router gives?09:47
jussiexcognac:  just go to localhost:631 and see if it detects the printer if you try add it ?09:48
excognacok. it gave me an ip address it has a suubnet mask and now i can set vaules for pass which is currently 0.0.0.0.09:50
excognacjussi: shall ^ i set that?09:50
jussiexcognac: did it find it from the web UI on your pc?09:50
excognacjussi: nope09:52
jussiexcognac: youll have to ask someone with more experience than me. sorry09:53
excognacjussi: np, stilll thanks for giving it a try09:53
excognacjalcine: lol. now nano uses portuguese in the menu, otherwise konsole is in english09:57
claycornmune software crash issue10:12
claycornhello?10:14
excognaclordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc*10:19
excognaclordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc/default/locale http://pastebin.kde.org/pwoyjd8hv10:19
lordievaderexcognac: Did you reboot? I wouldn't be surprised if such a change does require you to reboot.10:21
excognaclordievader:  i just logged in and out, but correc t i try to reboot now10:21
excognaclordievader: still the same after reboot.10:32
lordievaderexcognac: Are we talking about the Konsole or the shell?10:35
excognaclordievader: Well. the Konsole i guess. i installed something with muon and then everything appeared in English there ( i guess that was shell)10:36
lordievaderexcognac: Is the language in the menu and preferences (etc) from konsole wrong. Or the output language from commands.10:37
lordievader?10:37
excognaclordievader: oh sorry with operating with wrong terms. just the output language appears in portugues (English would be desired) everzything else, menues etc. are inEnglish10:39
OkitainHi peeps. I have a problem.10:39
lordievaderexcognac: Right, ok so it is the shell (bash probably).10:40
OkitainMy flash drive, previously used by Ubuntu Live (via dd) still thinks there is an ubuntu there, after a format and a total partition table reinstall.10:40
OkitainHow to make it not do that?10:40
lordievaderexcognac: Could you pastebin the output of "env|grep LANG"?10:41
excognaclordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pvhjtf4ws10:42
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lordievaderexcognac: Hmm, you could try running 'sudo update-locale LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_GB"' to get rid of the 4 languages.10:48
excognaclordievader: and rebot?10:53
lordievaderexcognac: Yes, that is probably wise.10:55
excognaclordievader: output language is still the same. reboot will only happen a few hours later as I'm copying a huge load of data10:56
lordievaderexcognac: What does "locale" report? Still 4 languages?10:57
apacheloggercat ~/.kde/env/*10:57
excognaclordievader: env | grep LANG has the exact same output yes10:58
lordievaderexcognac: Have you done what apachelogger said?11:02
excognaclordievader: apachelogger: cat ~/.kde/env/* export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:pt:fr:hu:en11:05
apacheloggerkcmshell4 language11:05
apacheloggersecond tab, left hand side11:06
apacheloggerwill only apply on next login though11:06
apacheloggereh, right hand side xD11:06
excognacapachelogger: yeah i have 4 (5 with British) here. As i use these 4, however, i would like to have English everywhere (output for shell and so)11:12
apacheloggeroh, possibly there's a bug11:13
lordievaderexcognac: British is on top I suppose?11:15
Okitainapachelogger: you don't say11:15
excognaclordievader: yes11:16
apacheloggerI mean, the KCM should probably map en_US to en for LANGUAGE values, it just doesn't xD11:16
apacheloggeruntested use case that is11:16
apacheloggerexcognac: if you export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en:pt:fr:hu:en the terminal apps are english I presume?11:17
excognacapachelogger:nope, nano's output/menu is still portuguese11:20
excognacand terminal output is still portuguese11:20
apacheloggerexcognac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+filebug bug report please, this will need some looking into11:21
excognacapachelogger: i'll copy there the output of commands too.11:23
apacheloggerthanks11:23
excognacapachelogger: i'd use 12.04 if iut could handloe my processor+graphics  but it simply can't. (Also, current 13.10 thinks i have 4 screens with 3 monitors) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/124780211:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 1247802 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "adding langues to locale changes terminal output language" [Undecided,New]11:33
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:33
mizBluesKaj: i'm sorry i had a disconnection yesterday; i tried to remove my thrid party ppas (just by deleting sources.list.d), but i'm still getting the same error during "do-release-upgrade"11:44
mizso i still cannot upgrade to 13.1011:46
BluesKajmiz .the ppas are in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d11:46
mizBluesKaj: yes i deleted that whole folder11:46
mizbut i'm not sure it was enough to remove the associated packages11:47
BluesKajoops i misread , ok one doesn't delete the file , just the ppas located there11:47
mizBluesKaj: what can i do now? because i don't remember the dozens of ppa's that were there11:48
BluesKajthe ppas are probly still in muon since you probly didn't update after deleting, correct?11:49
mizBluesKaj: i did update (and upgrade) and autoremove etc. but nothing much happened11:50
BluesKajvheck muon11:50
BluesKajerr check11:50
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mizin "Other Software" i have "canonical partners", "independent" and "independent source-code", should i uncheck these?11:53
mizBluesKaj: i tried to do that, and then apt-get upgrade and upgrade, but still getting the same error on do-release-upgrade11:55
Caleb--hi11:58
jussihi Caleb--12:00
Caleb--when i run "date", or for example "ls -l" the month is printed in hebrew instead of english for me (my country was set to Israel)12:00
Caleb--is there a way for me to change that so it prints in english instead?12:00
jussiCaleb--: I do not know the answer to that one sorry, but have a look in the locale part of system settings as a guess12:02
BluesKajmiz. , check muon sources >updtaes tab>"show new distribution releases , make sure it's set to normal releases12:02
mizBluesKaj: yes it is, muon does notify me of a new release, and i get the same error with the GUI updater12:02
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BluesKajok miz ,  what's the error ?12:04
mizBluesKaj: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.This can be caused by:* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu12:10
Caleb--jussi, looks like the output of "locale" is LC_TIME=he_IL.UTF-812:10
jussiCaleb--: but did you look in the system settings "locale" section?12:11
Caleb--the KDE Sysetm Settings don't have an option for changing that :S12:11
Caleb--^ in the locale section12:11
Caleb--hm, i might need to edit  /etc/default/locale12:15
BluesKajmiz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade12:17
excognacapachelogger: lol, i have now 2 Konsole windows open. the second one has french output12:17
mizBluesKaj: sorry, had to reboot: http://pastebin.com/ycuh13t012:18
BluesKajmiz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade12:18
mizBluesKaj: yep, this is the pastebin for the first suggestion12:18
mizBluesKaj: i also tried the set-selections suggestion, but i have no package in "hold" state12:19
mizBluesKaj: and in main.log, i have: http://i.imgur.com/VXArV02.png12:20
apacheloggerexcognac: paste env of both12:20
mizBluesKaj: i'll try to horrible script of the rude guy12:22
mizs/to/the/12:22
BluesKajwell mix , suggest you backup your data and do a clean install12:22
apacheloggeror ppa-purge every ppa12:23
mizapachelogger: i don't have the list of the ppa anymore12:24
BluesKajperhaps someone else recognizes a fix to your problem , miz , but I have no ideas12:24
miznp12:24
BluesKajapachelogger. , miz deleted the sources.list.d folder12:24
ardian_Hi, I am using Kubuntu 12.04 is it a good idea to upgrade KDE ?12:24
apacheloggerwhy that's unhelpful xD12:25
apacheloggermiz: FWIW /var/log/updater or somesuch folder *may* contain a list12:25
apacheloggerso you can add them back and then ppa-purge12:25
mizapachelogger: i'm running http://pastebin.com/5sqfXsJK right now12:26
apacheloggergenerally speaking new install is less of a hassle ;)12:26
apacheloggermiz: ehm12:26
apacheloggeryeah12:26
apacheloggerthat is not supported12:26
apacheloggeralso that will install ubuntu desktop :P12:26
mizye i saw that too late :(12:27
apacheloggermh12:27
apacheloggerthere's so much wrong with that command I think my head will explode now12:27
mizmeeh, it's going to be fine :)12:28
BluesKajmiz don't do stuff we're not aware of . otherwisew how can anyone hrlp if they don't know the state of your install12:28
BluesKajhelp12:28
excognacapachelogger: i cant paste it, kde.pastbin says  i'm a spammer12:28
apacheloggerexcognac: paste.ubuntu.com12:29
apacheloggerpaste.kde is rubbish12:29
mizBluesKaj: i wasn't getting any new suggestion12:29
apacheloggerdon't use it12:29
BluesKajmiz , i already told you , a clean install is probly your best alternative to the mess you have12:29
mizyes i agree, but that's not an option atm, i'd have too much backup to do12:30
mizdon't have the time12:30
* BluesKaj shrugs , well then don't upgrade until you have the time12:31
apacheloggeron the plus side, you can do a clean install with /home on a separate partitoin and once you have a clean install you can choose not to add all sorts of PPAs and thus enable flawless upgrades from hereon out :P12:31
excognacapachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/12:31
mizapachelogger: do you prefer building external software from source rather than having them on ppa?12:31
BluesKajdon't think he has  ? and /home partitions12:31
apacheloggermiz: external software would not hold back upgrades12:32
BluesKajcorrection / and /home12:32
apacheloggerupgrades are only held back when you have a dependency graph that cannot be resolved12:32
ardian_I am very new to KDE, and I use Firefox but I am having some problems with it like if I try to open an archive file, it asks me with what I want to open it12:32
apacheloggerif the dependency of a third party application breaks the application will be removed to resolve the dependency graph12:32
apacheloggere.g. foobar -> kdelibs5 (=4.10.0) ... remove foobar to unbreak graph12:33
mizi think i'll move to debian for the next install12:34
apacheloggerppa provides kdelibs5 (4.14.0) but an official package requires kdelibs5 (4.11.0) ... dependency cannot be resolved as it would require a downgrade which may break part of the graph, whereas not downgraded breaks the other half of the graph12:34
mizyes i see12:35
apacheloggermiz: that doesn't change anything12:35
apacheloggerif a third party introduces crappy packages also debian will fall apart12:35
BluesKajmiz. that won't solve your ppa issues if you add them again'12:35
mizi know, just a thought12:35
apacheloggerardian_: I think installing firefox-gnome-support should take care of that12:36
mizbut they only have rolling upgrade right? no "distribution" upgrades?12:36
BluesKajmiz. do yo have / and/home partitions?12:36
mizno just one12:36
ardian_apachelogger: isn't there a packe for KDE ?12:36
apacheloggerardian_: no, what for if there is one that works just as well? :P12:37
BluesKajmiz it's advisable you create a /home partition on your next clean install12:37
mizright12:37
ardian_apachelogger: lol hopefully, I am just a bit afraid that it will crash something:P I am using kubuntu lts, is it a good idea to upgrade KDE to the last ver ?12:38
mizbtw, when you build and install a software from source, should i install it on ~/bin?12:38
apacheloggerardian_: latest version being?12:38
mizs/you/i/12:39
apacheloggerardian_: any upgrade you get out of the box is certainly a good idea12:39
ardian_apachelogger: right now I am on kde 4.8.5, looking forward to add a repo for kde 4.1112:39
apacheloggerif the repo is our repo then the new version certainly will work, whether it's a good idea depends on how stable you want your system to be ;)12:40
apacheloggermiz: containing software to ~/ certainly is a good idea12:41
apacheloggernext best option would be /usr/local/12:41
mizapachelogger: are you talking about software built from source, or every software including packages?12:42
apacheloggerhow would you force a package to install to ~/?12:43
mizdon't know, never tried12:44
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BluesKajapachelogger. I think he said ~/bin , which i haven't heard of before12:45
apacheloggerwell, it's a bin in your home ;)12:46
apacheloggerlike /usr/bin, except not in /usr12:47
BluesKajthen you created that path ?12:48
BluesKajbeause it doesn't exist by default in my seup12:49
BluesKajbecause12:49
apacheloggeryeah12:49
* BluesKaj searches for his glasses12:49
apacheloggeryou could put exectuables into ~/fluffyunicornsonrainbows/ as long as it is in the PATH variable12:50
BluesKajI fail to see the advantage12:50
mizBluesKaj: i think this is where we're supposed to install the software we build from source, but i'm not sure12:51
apacheloggerBluesKaj: you don't need to sudo12:51
mizBluesKaj: it's so as not to interfere with the package installs12:51
BluesKajwell it's not in /usr  anyway if you compile from source12:52
BluesKajapachelogger. I use aliases in ~/bashrc for a lot of apt-get commands , sudo isn't an issue for me12:54
BluesKajerr aliases12:55
apacheloggerit's not that typing sudo that is the problem, it's running it at all12:59
BluesKajyes of course , but it's not a bother for me13:03
xeeHi, I would like to ask why backports(unsupported updates) is enabled by default in Kubuntu, it's not in Ubuntu as far as I know.13:24
apacheloggerBluesKaj: it's a security problem, not a bother :P13:37
apacheloggerxee: it's not13:37
apacheloggeroh it is13:38
apacheloggerpeculiar13:38
* apachelogger installs ubuntu13:39
yofelIIRC it's enabled by default with a 100 pin13:40
apacheloggerI seem to recall some discussion13:40
yofelso nothing's automatically updated13:40
apacheloggerso that you can opt to install a specific version13:40
menacehow can i reopen a bug in the kde bugtracker? activity manager -> add a widget still crashes with kde 4.11 (kubuntu saucy) (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283626)13:52
ubottuKDE bug 283626 in activities "plasma-desktop crashes when Adding Widget while ActivityManager is visible [@ ActivityManager::setLocation]" [Crash,Resolved: fixed]13:53
apacheloggerxee: yeah, works as expected13:54
apacheloggermenace: file a new one, it's likely crashing for different reasons13:55
menacefor which component/product does the activity manager belong to?13:56
menacekactivity?13:56
apacheloggermenace: plasma-desktop activities13:56
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zero_coderhello14:11
zero_codermy computer is freezing at times14:11
BluesKajzero_coder. have you updated/upgraed lately ?14:12
BluesKajupgraded14:12
zero_coderBluesKaj, yep14:12
[Raiden]hi14:12
BluesKajzero_coder. which kubuntu version?14:13
[Raiden]from russia with love ))14:13
zero_coderkubuntu 13.1014:13
zero_codersaucy :)14:13
BluesKajzero_coder.  graphics card make ?14:13
zero_coderintel hd 300014:14
zero_coderBluesKaj, my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% most of the times in ubuntu and windows14:14
zero_coderi mean the disk transfer rate of hdd14:15
BluesKajzero_coder. sudo lshw -C video just to make sure , then check your system monitor to see what's using up your resources, or ctrl+esc14:16
lordievaderzero_coder: Or install iotop to see what process is generating the disk io.14:17
frantic 14:18
BluesKajctrl+esc loads system activity on the desktop14:18
[Raiden]no russian channel about kubuntu on this server. This is no good14:18
BluesKaj!ru14:19
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:19
[Raiden]ubottu: ok14:19
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)14:19
[Raiden]BluesKaj: ok ))14:19
BluesKaj{r do you have a question , your english seems quite good14:19
BluesKaj[Raiden].^14:20
[Raiden]I am glad that my English language is clear. No questions asked yet, maybe later :)14:21
BluesKaj[Raiden]. ok :)14:21
menacewell, created my first kde bug.. :> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32713014:30
ubottuKDE bug 327130 in desktop "crash after clicking on "add widget" after clicking on "activity manager" in the taskbar-widget" [Normal,Unconfirmed]14:30
BluesKajmenace. , just right click on the desktop , all those options will show14:34
menaceit still should not crash when i use it with the taskbar-version of the activity manager. either that, or that button is removed in the standard distribution?14:35
BluesKajoops , gotta go ...BBL14:35
menacedid i say something wrong?14:36
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MangaKaDenzaodd14:58
MangaKaDenzanone of the things that require authentication are qorking14:58
drbobbhas the alternate (text-mode) installer been discontinued in 13.10?14:58
MangaKaDenzaand none of the Password Required prompts are up14:58
* genii makes more coffee and stares at MangaKaDenza14:59
* MangaKaDenza makes more MangaKaDenza and stares at coffee14:59
geniiMangaKaDenza: What was the last non-sanctioned operation you did to your poor computer? ;)14:59
MangaKaDenzaI installed windows using wine15:00
* BluesKaj shakes his head in disbelief15:00
BluesKajmust be a joke'15:00
geniiBluesKaj: Probably not, unfortunately15:01
drbobbthe new installer doesn't understand the concept of a statically assigned IP?15:01
MangaKaDenzabut seriously though... none of the auth prompts are showing up15:01
MangaKaDenzaso I cant install anything in gui mode15:01
MangaKaDenzaer15:01
MangaKaDenzaor change any system settings15:02
MangaKaDenza;-;15:02
geniiMangaKaDenza: Usually has to do with whatever frontend you need to policykit15:02
geniiMangaKaDenza: I know you're probably not using KDE right now... what desktop are you running?15:02
MangaKaDenzaactually KDE finally15:03
geniiHah.15:03
MangaKaDenza4srs15:03
geniiMangaKaDenza: Probably need to install polkit-kde-1 package15:03
drbobbpower management settings don't work in 13.10?15:03
MangaKaDenzaalready installed15:04
drbobbno matter how I change the settings, they revert to defaults anyway15:04
drbobbadding the fact that neither video nor wifi work correctly on my laptop any longer, I'm finding 13.10 pretty much broken for me15:06
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BluesKajdrbobb. have you updated and upgraded since the install?15:07
drbobbBluesKaj: sure I have15:08
BluesKajin the last few days ?15:08
drbobblike yesterday15:08
BluesKajok , which graphics?15:09
drbobbGeForce 310M15:09
BluesKajdrbobb. then check in the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers15:10
drbobband tell me, does the installer really not know the concept of a static IP, or am I missing something?15:11
drbobbBluesKaj: I already did, tried all permutations15:11
drbobbnothing works15:11
drbobbtried PPA's as well15:11
BluesKajare you using network manager or the network/interfaces file settings for setting a static IP15:12
MangaKaDenzasorry, desktop froze15:13
drbobbBluesKaj: afaics, there's no way to do it through the GUI15:13
drbobbso I edit /etc/network/interfaces15:13
drbobbthen the installer fails to recognize a network is available15:15
drbobbbut anyway, that's rather minor15:16
BluesKajdrbobb. yeah , there used to be , but I see that option is removed, then obviously you have to set it up in  /etc/network/interfaces ...is this wfi or ethernet?15:16
drbobbin the current case it's eth015:16
BluesKajwhich installer do you mean ?15:16
drbobbthe one in the installation image15:18
drbobbthere seems to be only one now, the alternate images are gone15:18
drbobb(I really don't like any of these changes, in case you wonder)15:18
BluesKajwhich images , the isos ?15:19
drbobbyes, those you reach by following download links on the site15:20
BluesKajthey're called packages if you mean apps etc that one installs from the repositories15:21
drbobbBluesKaj: I've been using (k)ubuntu since, like, 2006?15:23
BluesKajdownload links on what site ? if you continue to be obtuse or don't undestand the nomenclature for OS iso and images then I can't help15:24
drbobbI mean kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso, to be as precise as possible15:24
BluesKajok , now we're getting somewhere15:25
BluesKajubiquity doesn't connect to the internet ?15:25
BluesKajlive cd or usb?15:26
drbobblive dvd15:26
BluesKajso it gives an error message that the repos aren't available , correct ?15:27
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BluesKajthe live media doesn't use your static IP settings15:28
drbobbthe installer fails to recognize a network is available15:28
drbobbalthough the connection work fine15:28
MangaKaDenzaalso, I replaced the linux kernel with an old windows kernel15:28
drbobbbut that's a very minor issue15:29
drbobbvs. the fact the I can no longer use my laptop's wifi15:29
drbobbbecause it connects only to a few select AP's, against most it fails15:30
MangaKaDenzaat this point... I'm just throwing stuff around and hoping it doesn't break15:31
drbobb(right now I'm using my android phone as a wifi interface, over usb)15:31
drbobbit's been years since I last had to struggle with ndiswrapper15:32
drbobbbut looks like it's the last resort once again15:32
BluesKajdrbobb. which wifi chip?15:34
drbobbBCM431315:35
geniiMangaKaDenza: Is this with the default user that was created or a user which was created afterwards? eg: Subsequent users don't have admin rights by default, only the first user which was made at install time does15:35
genii!bcm15:36
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:36
drbobbthanks, but those docs are outdated15:36
geniidrbobb: Yes, they are getting pretty antiquated, unfortunately :-/15:36
drbobband this did work pretty well two releases ago15:37
drbobbnot quite so well in the previous really15:37
drbobband not much in the current15:37
drbobbyes I have done my research and I think I tried all options, other than ndiswrapper15:38
BluesKajhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/94021/how-do-i-get-the-broadcom-bcm4313-wireless-working-on-an-asus-1015px , this one too ?15:39
drbobbBluesKaj: that is pretty old as well15:42
BluesKajold might work tho15:44
BluesKajBCM should connect , it's one of the most common15:44
drbobbanyhow: FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found.15:44
drbobbthe usual recommendation is to use Broadcom's STA driver, the 'wl' module15:45
drbobbin my case, it works against only one of several AP's I tried it against15:46
drbobb(and not too well in fact)15:46
BluesKajare you on a wan ?15:46
BluesKajwide area network15:47
drbobbby which you mean?15:48
BluesKajin an office situation with many pcs and APs to the net15:50
drbobbyes in the office we have about a dozen APs spread around the building15:51
drbobbafaik they are cisco, coordinated by a cisco controller15:52
BluesKajok , I'm not experienced with that situation15:52
drbobbat home I have some run-of-the-mill linksys, and it works(somewhat)15:53
drbobbmeaning it connects ok, but disconnects in a while15:53
drbobbanyhow, for some time each release was better than the previous, but now it seems to be the other way around15:58
drbobbmore and more becomes broken16:00
drbobblooks like krdc doesn't work anymore16:32
MangaKaDenzaGuys I have another question16:34
MangaKaDenzaSo I'm trying to play TF2, but when I try to open it, it says I need S3TC support16:34
lordievaderMangaKaDenza: http://askubuntu.com/questions/231176/how-do-i-install-s3tc might help.16:35
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yossarianukMangaKaDenza: what GOU do you have ?16:40
yossarianuk*GPU*16:40
MangaKaDenzaAMD APU16:40
yossarianukMangaKaDenza: if your not already using the binary driver - install it.16:43
MangaKaDenzaer16:44
MangaKaDenzausing X.Org X server16:45
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gasshomuon package manager could not download packages17:08
gassho;-;17:08
BluesKajmaybe you're up to date17:09
* gassho imagines BluesKaj making a jedi gesture while saying that17:16
geniigassho: Do you know what packages it's having issue with?17:16
genii( eg: from the stock repositories, or are these from PPA which were added )17:17
gasshodunno17:17
geniigassho: I would close Muon for now, and try in Konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     ....and then see if any errors are reported17:18
gasshoy thank u17:20
gasshoit says 'hash sum mismatch17:20
gasshoW: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages17:21
geniigassho: I recommend: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages      ...and then to re-run the commands I gave just earlier17:22
genii( the lists sometimes become corrupt but the apt-get update will make a new list if one does not exist)17:22
GatakHi. I just unstalled kubuntu. KDE seems much more feature-ful than the unity interface. =)17:32
gasshowhee17:32
gasshothanks genii17:32
GatakOne thing I noticed though is a lag when opening kontacts and moving the mouse over the menus. They often lag before showing. Is that normal?17:33
geniigassho: You're welcome :)17:34
geniigassho: Your Muon should probably work again now.17:35
genii( if the apt-get commands are finished)17:35
gasshoyup yup yup17:37
muralihi friends. please help me how to install drivers for my new graphic card. i donloaded a file from the website for linux OS. dont know wat to do with it.17:40
BluesKajGatak. how long is the lag ?17:41
BluesKajmurali. which graphics card?17:41
muraliBluesKaj: Its Zotac Geforce 21017:42
GatakBluesKaj: It is tenth of a second or so perhaps and sometimes more17:42
GatakBluesKaj: Running on a laptop with core2 and ssd disk. fresh install. it seems like kmail  has to read some settings before showing some menus. Then it works ok for a bit until it flushes out the setting/menu and it lags again17:43
BluesKajmurali. no need to use your downloaded driver , the right driver in located in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers17:44
BluesKajGatak. well if you have nepomuk indexer and akonadi running then =you may suffer a slight lag17:45
GatakHow can I tell? :)17:47
GatakIf they are default in kubuntu, then yes I do have them17:47
BluesKajmurali. Geforce 210 uses the nvidia gpu17:47
murali   BluesKaj, i have got a list of nvedia graphics driver. which once shud i opt for?17:48
BluesKajGatak. if you have kmail installed and the desktop search is enabled in system settings17:48
BluesKajmurali. look at the info about the drivers , the 319 driver should listed there , install / activate it17:49
muraliBluesKaj: Its downloading now. is there anything that needs to be done installation???17:51
BluesKajmurali. it will self install the dialog you were just using is the installer as well17:52
BluesKajmurali. most likely a reboot will be required17:52
muraliBluesKaj: Thank you so much for helping me out.17:53
BluesKaja notifier will pop up once it's finished installing17:53
BluesKajnp murali , it should work for you17:54
muraliBluesKaj, thank you. if any issue, i will get back.17:54
BluesKajmurali. ok17:55
GatakBluesKaj: ok thanks. I disabled email search17:57
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BluesKajGatak. i'm not sure how much difference that will make , it's trade off17:58
MangaKaDenzaso I'm using the open source X.Org server thing graphics driver18:09
MangaKaDenzabut anywho... it still don't work18:09
MangaKaDenza:<18:09
WizardHi.18:15
WizardKubuntu 13.10 is not available for amd64?18:16
MangaKaDenzawait what?18:16
MangaKaDenzaI just got a notify that there's a new kubuntu18:16
MangaKaDenzabut... I already have 13.1018:16
MangaKaDenzawat18:16
OkitainHey, does anyone know how to make Firefox use xdg-open?18:17
OkitainWizard:  it totally is.18:17
OkitainI just downloaded it.18:17
[Raiden]Wizard: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.10/release/kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso18:18
WizardMeh.18:18
BluesKajWizard. of courswe it is18:18
genii!doesntwork | MangaKaDenza18:19
ubottuMangaKaDenza: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.18:19
MangaKaDenzagenii, TF2 needs some S3TC support thing18:19
WizardNah, than either something is wrong or the download link on the website is broken.18:19
BluesKajWizard. that URL above posted by [Raiden] should open a downloader18:21
geniiWizard: If you went through the kubuntu site download, it's possible the mirror it redirected you to is currently down/broken. Have you tried directly downloading it from the url [Raiden] just supplied?18:21
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WizardBluesKaj: Yes, it did. Thanks, [Raiden].18:21
[Raiden]np18:21
Wizardgenii: Yes, that is probable.18:21
OkitainMangaKaDenza: there is libtxc, tried it?18:22
WizardI didn't know cdimage.ubuntu.com redirects.18:22
geniiMangaKaDenza: Have you tried picking one of the proprietary drivers from System...Additional Drivers ?18:22
MangaKaDenzagenii, would that do the trick18:22
PT_Dreamer_new plasma-nm is awful18:22
geniiMangaKaDenza: Hopefully :)18:23
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fusanosalve22:31
fusano!list22:31
ubottufusano: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».22:31
MangaKaDenza:>22:32
MangaKaDenzaSammael k22:44
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* Wizard yawns23:23
user___hi23:48
user___want an english/spanish offline translator - google not exceedingly helpful - please help23:48
user____want an english/spanish offline translator - google not exceedingly helpful  for kubuntu 13 - please help23:53
MangaKaDenzaplzno23:53
user____why isn't muon installing apps in kubuntu 1323:53
user____MangaKaDenza:  plzno at me?23:54
MangaKaDenzauh.. wrong window23:54
user____k23:55

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