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| gassho | :D | 01:27 |
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| snax | moin. | 05:57 |
| snax | Is it possible to use Qt 5.1 ? | 05:57 |
| snax | on kubuntu | 05:57 |
| snax | err is it in apt? | 05:58 |
| jalcine | snax: it's part of Ubuntu's SDK | 05:58 |
| jalcine | so you'd have to install Canonical's PPA for installing the Ubuntu SDK and then install Qt5.1 | 05:59 |
| jalcine | er, Qt5.0 | 05:59 |
| jalcine | I don't think 5.1 has been packaged as of yet | 05:59 |
| snax | Do most consumers still use Qt4 still ? | 06:00 |
| snax | There aren't even books on Qt5 yet. | 06:00 |
| jalcine | I'd lie if I said it's not widely available | 06:00 |
| valorie | or use Project Neon | 06:00 |
| valorie | #project-neon | 06:00 |
| jalcine | it's probably already packaged and ready in Arch Linux (I've attended a Tizen hackathon and saw it in a friend's package manager) | 06:01 |
| valorie | for more information | 06:01 |
| jalcine | snax: valorie's suggestion is a more natural and safer suggestion | 06:01 |
| snax | ok thanks | 06:01 |
| jalcine | also comes with the latest and greatest (though dangerous for production use) version of KDE | 06:01 |
| genii | !info libqt5core5 trusty | 06:01 |
| valorie | dailies, yes | 06:01 |
| ubottu | libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (trusty), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB | 06:01 |
| genii | Hm. | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | !info libqt5core5 unstable | 06:02 |
| ubottu | libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.1+dfsg-5 (unstable), package size 1588 kB, installed size 4721 kB | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | :D | 06:02 |
| * genii slides Unit193 a tasty coffee | 06:02 | |
| jalcine | !info libqt5core5 saucy | 06:21 |
| ubottu | libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (saucy), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB | 06:21 |
| jalcine | ah, so saucy comes with Qt5 (probably due to the inclusion of ubuntu-sdk) | 06:21 |
| jalcine | snax: if you're around and you're running 13.10/saucy, Qt5.0.2 is in your standard repos; | 06:21 |
| dragu | In new kubuntu release please extend apt-get by adding "apt-get downgrade" | 06:59 |
| genii | !downgrade | 07:05 |
| ubottu | Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. | 07:05 |
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| dragu | ubottu: I'm used after the last update | 07:39 |
| ubottu | dragu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:39 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:51 |
| lordievader | dragu: What do you want to downgrade exactly? From 13.10 to 13.04? | 07:52 |
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| dragu | lordievader: everything | 07:58 |
| lordievader | dragu: So from 13.10 to 13.04? Yes this is not supported. Only way to go would be a reinstall of Raring. | 08:01 |
| dragu | lordievader: I know, that's why I'm very unhappy | 08:02 |
| dragu | so many things doesn't work | 08:02 |
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| jalcine | dragu: it'd help us help you if you explained what wasn't working | 08:34 |
| excognac | hi all | 08:56 |
| dragu | jalcine: for example bluetooth mouse, after awake it's hard to make it work. When connection is fine, but mouse jams | 09:00 |
| excognac | I added multiply languages in kubuntu 13.10, for some reason my terminal started to use portuguese but all other applications are in English. (i want everything in English) how do i set it back? | 09:00 |
| jalcine | dragu: I can't remember 100% but I know some heavy bluetooth changes have been made in the upgrade | 09:01 |
| jalcine | I know because my phone and headphones got borked too | 09:01 |
| jalcine | but I just removed the old profiles from my config and addded them back in bluedevil and they worked | 09:01 |
| jalcine | excognac: I can understand the shell, if you do 'env | grep LC'; you'll see | 09:01 |
| jalcine | but you might have not set the default system language to be Portuguese | 09:02 |
| excognac | jalcine: i never did just added 4 languages in System Settings>Locale | 09:02 |
| excognac | jalcine: http://pastebin.kde.org/pd80mhyn7 | 09:03 |
| excognac | that's aint funny | 09:03 |
| jalcine | haha good one ;) | 09:04 |
| jalcine | I think changing the locale options *might* require a login/logoff to take full effect. kdeinit is still using the older LC_* values | 09:04 |
| jalcine | though I think it should be able to hotswap those values when you change the language | 09:05 |
| excognac | jalcine: shall i try to reboot and see what happens?M | 09:07 |
| jalcine | If a reboot isn't too long, otherwise a login/logout would be safe since it cycles kdeinit | 09:08 |
| excognac | jalcine: logged out and in, terminal does the same | 09:10 |
| excognac | jalcine: and the command has the same output | 09:10 |
| jalcine | very interesting. try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and select english as your default term locale | 09:11 |
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| lordievader | excognac: Or edit /etc/default/locale manually. | 09:13 |
| jalcine | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale#Troubleshooting might help as well | 09:14 |
| jalcine | ah, beat me to it | 09:14 |
| excognac | jalcine: ty worked | 09:18 |
| jalcine | excognac: sweet! | 09:22 |
| excognac | i'm trying to add a network printer. what's the differnce between PCX and PCL drivers? | 09:24 |
| excognac | *PXL and PCL | 09:24 |
| excognac | anybody has too much freetime and help me to set up a network printer? (Canon i-sensys MF9170 connected with X-cable to router) | 09:35 |
| jussi | excognac: where are you at with it ? | 09:35 |
| excognac | jussi: well, the printer has a superfancy panel, i can set shit load of things. i set now at Ipv4 settings>ip adress and BOOTP. i cant see it with ping <ip address> | 09:39 |
| jussi | excognac: have you installed the driver from canon on your PC? | 09:39 |
| excognac | jussi: i did, it worked fine on another machine with usb. | 09:40 |
| jussi | excognac: yeah, so the network thing is the issue. all I can say is "keep fiddling" - its a bit hard without having any of the interfaces in front of me/or experience with the printer | 09:41 |
| jussi | sorry :/ | 09:41 |
| excognac | jussi: np, just opne thing: which of these protocols should be the least problematic? DHCP BOOTP RARP? | 09:44 |
| jussi | dhcp | 09:44 |
| jussi | that means it takes the assigned address given by the router | 09:45 |
| excognac | jussi: how do i find what the router gives? | 09:47 |
| jussi | excognac: just go to localhost:631 and see if it detects the printer if you try add it ? | 09:48 |
| excognac | ok. it gave me an ip address it has a suubnet mask and now i can set vaules for pass which is currently 0.0.0.0. | 09:50 |
| excognac | jussi: shall ^ i set that? | 09:50 |
| jussi | excognac: did it find it from the web UI on your pc? | 09:50 |
| excognac | jussi: nope | 09:52 |
| jussi | excognac: youll have to ask someone with more experience than me. sorry | 09:53 |
| excognac | jussi: np, stilll thanks for giving it a try | 09:53 |
| excognac | jalcine: lol. now nano uses portuguese in the menu, otherwise konsole is in english | 09:57 |
| claycorn | mune software crash issue | 10:12 |
| claycorn | hello? | 10:14 |
| excognac | lordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc* | 10:19 |
| excognac | lordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc/default/locale http://pastebin.kde.org/pwoyjd8hv | 10:19 |
| lordievader | excognac: Did you reboot? I wouldn't be surprised if such a change does require you to reboot. | 10:21 |
| excognac | lordievader: i just logged in and out, but correc t i try to reboot now | 10:21 |
| excognac | lordievader: still the same after reboot. | 10:32 |
| lordievader | excognac: Are we talking about the Konsole or the shell? | 10:35 |
| excognac | lordievader: Well. the Konsole i guess. i installed something with muon and then everything appeared in English there ( i guess that was shell) | 10:36 |
| lordievader | excognac: Is the language in the menu and preferences (etc) from konsole wrong. Or the output language from commands. | 10:37 |
| lordievader | ? | 10:37 |
| excognac | lordievader: oh sorry with operating with wrong terms. just the output language appears in portugues (English would be desired) everzything else, menues etc. are inEnglish | 10:39 |
| Okitain | Hi peeps. I have a problem. | 10:39 |
| lordievader | excognac: Right, ok so it is the shell (bash probably). | 10:40 |
| Okitain | My flash drive, previously used by Ubuntu Live (via dd) still thinks there is an ubuntu there, after a format and a total partition table reinstall. | 10:40 |
| Okitain | How to make it not do that? | 10:40 |
| lordievader | excognac: Could you pastebin the output of "env|grep LANG"? | 10:41 |
| excognac | lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pvhjtf4ws | 10:42 |
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| lordievader | excognac: Hmm, you could try running 'sudo update-locale LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_GB"' to get rid of the 4 languages. | 10:48 |
| excognac | lordievader: and rebot? | 10:53 |
| lordievader | excognac: Yes, that is probably wise. | 10:55 |
| excognac | lordievader: output language is still the same. reboot will only happen a few hours later as I'm copying a huge load of data | 10:56 |
| lordievader | excognac: What does "locale" report? Still 4 languages? | 10:57 |
| apachelogger | cat ~/.kde/env/* | 10:57 |
| excognac | lordievader: env | grep LANG has the exact same output yes | 10:58 |
| lordievader | excognac: Have you done what apachelogger said? | 11:02 |
| excognac | lordievader: apachelogger: cat ~/.kde/env/* export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:pt:fr:hu:en | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | kcmshell4 language | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | second tab, left hand side | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | will only apply on next login though | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | eh, right hand side xD | 11:06 |
| excognac | apachelogger: yeah i have 4 (5 with British) here. As i use these 4, however, i would like to have English everywhere (output for shell and so) | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | oh, possibly there's a bug | 11:13 |
| lordievader | excognac: British is on top I suppose? | 11:15 |
| Okitain | apachelogger: you don't say | 11:15 |
| excognac | lordievader: yes | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | I mean, the KCM should probably map en_US to en for LANGUAGE values, it just doesn't xD | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | untested use case that is | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | excognac: if you export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en:pt:fr:hu:en the terminal apps are english I presume? | 11:17 |
| excognac | apachelogger:nope, nano's output/menu is still portuguese | 11:20 |
| excognac | and terminal output is still portuguese | 11:20 |
| apachelogger | excognac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+filebug bug report please, this will need some looking into | 11:21 |
| excognac | apachelogger: i'll copy there the output of commands too. | 11:23 |
| apachelogger | thanks | 11:23 |
| excognac | apachelogger: i'd use 12.04 if iut could handloe my processor+graphics but it simply can't. (Also, current 13.10 thinks i have 4 screens with 3 monitors) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1247802 | 11:33 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1247802 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "adding langues to locale changes terminal output language" [Undecided,New] | 11:33 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 11:33 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i'm sorry i had a disconnection yesterday; i tried to remove my thrid party ppas (just by deleting sources.list.d), but i'm still getting the same error during "do-release-upgrade" | 11:44 |
| miz | so i still cannot upgrade to 13.10 | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | miz .the ppas are in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d | 11:46 |
| miz | BluesKaj: yes i deleted that whole folder | 11:46 |
| miz | but i'm not sure it was enough to remove the associated packages | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | oops i misread , ok one doesn't delete the file , just the ppas located there | 11:47 |
| miz | BluesKaj: what can i do now? because i don't remember the dozens of ppa's that were there | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | the ppas are probly still in muon since you probly didn't update after deleting, correct? | 11:49 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i did update (and upgrade) and autoremove etc. but nothing much happened | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | vheck muon | 11:50 |
| BluesKaj | err check | 11:50 |
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| miz | in "Other Software" i have "canonical partners", "independent" and "independent source-code", should i uncheck these? | 11:53 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i tried to do that, and then apt-get upgrade and upgrade, but still getting the same error on do-release-upgrade | 11:55 |
| Caleb-- | hi | 11:58 |
| jussi | hi Caleb-- | 12:00 |
| Caleb-- | when i run "date", or for example "ls -l" the month is printed in hebrew instead of english for me (my country was set to Israel) | 12:00 |
| Caleb-- | is there a way for me to change that so it prints in english instead? | 12:00 |
| jussi | Caleb--: I do not know the answer to that one sorry, but have a look in the locale part of system settings as a guess | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | miz. , check muon sources >updtaes tab>"show new distribution releases , make sure it's set to normal releases | 12:02 |
| miz | BluesKaj: yes it is, muon does notify me of a new release, and i get the same error with the GUI updater | 12:02 |
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| BluesKaj | ok miz , what's the error ? | 12:04 |
| miz | BluesKaj: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.This can be caused by:* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu | 12:10 |
| Caleb-- | jussi, looks like the output of "locale" is LC_TIME=he_IL.UTF-8 | 12:10 |
| jussi | Caleb--: but did you look in the system settings "locale" section? | 12:11 |
| Caleb-- | the KDE Sysetm Settings don't have an option for changing that :S | 12:11 |
| Caleb-- | ^ in the locale section | 12:11 |
| Caleb-- | hm, i might need to edit /etc/default/locale | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | miz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade | 12:17 |
| excognac | apachelogger: lol, i have now 2 Konsole windows open. the second one has french output | 12:17 |
| miz | BluesKaj: sorry, had to reboot: http://pastebin.com/ycuh13t0 | 12:18 |
| BluesKaj | miz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade | 12:18 |
| miz | BluesKaj: yep, this is the pastebin for the first suggestion | 12:18 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i also tried the set-selections suggestion, but i have no package in "hold" state | 12:19 |
| miz | BluesKaj: and in main.log, i have: http://i.imgur.com/VXArV02.png | 12:20 |
| apachelogger | excognac: paste env of both | 12:20 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i'll try to horrible script of the rude guy | 12:22 |
| miz | s/to/the/ | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | well mix , suggest you backup your data and do a clean install | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | or ppa-purge every ppa | 12:23 |
| miz | apachelogger: i don't have the list of the ppa anymore | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | perhaps someone else recognizes a fix to your problem , miz , but I have no ideas | 12:24 |
| miz | np | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger. , miz deleted the sources.list.d folder | 12:24 |
| ardian_ | Hi, I am using Kubuntu 12.04 is it a good idea to upgrade KDE ? | 12:24 |
| apachelogger | why that's unhelpful xD | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | miz: FWIW /var/log/updater or somesuch folder *may* contain a list | 12:25 |
| apachelogger | so you can add them back and then ppa-purge | 12:25 |
| miz | apachelogger: i'm running http://pastebin.com/5sqfXsJK right now | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | generally speaking new install is less of a hassle ;) | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | miz: ehm | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | that is not supported | 12:26 |
| apachelogger | also that will install ubuntu desktop :P | 12:26 |
| miz | ye i saw that too late :( | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | mh | 12:27 |
| apachelogger | there's so much wrong with that command I think my head will explode now | 12:27 |
| miz | meeh, it's going to be fine :) | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | miz don't do stuff we're not aware of . otherwisew how can anyone hrlp if they don't know the state of your install | 12:28 |
| BluesKaj | help | 12:28 |
| excognac | apachelogger: i cant paste it, kde.pastbin says i'm a spammer | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | excognac: paste.ubuntu.com | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | paste.kde is rubbish | 12:29 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i wasn't getting any new suggestion | 12:29 |
| apachelogger | don't use it | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | miz , i already told you , a clean install is probly your best alternative to the mess you have | 12:29 |
| miz | yes i agree, but that's not an option atm, i'd have too much backup to do | 12:30 |
| miz | don't have the time | 12:30 |
| * BluesKaj shrugs , well then don't upgrade until you have the time | 12:31 | |
| apachelogger | on the plus side, you can do a clean install with /home on a separate partitoin and once you have a clean install you can choose not to add all sorts of PPAs and thus enable flawless upgrades from hereon out :P | 12:31 |
| excognac | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/ | 12:31 |
| miz | apachelogger: do you prefer building external software from source rather than having them on ppa? | 12:31 |
| BluesKaj | don't think he has ? and /home partitions | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | miz: external software would not hold back upgrades | 12:32 |
| BluesKaj | correction / and /home | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | upgrades are only held back when you have a dependency graph that cannot be resolved | 12:32 |
| ardian_ | I am very new to KDE, and I use Firefox but I am having some problems with it like if I try to open an archive file, it asks me with what I want to open it | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | if the dependency of a third party application breaks the application will be removed to resolve the dependency graph | 12:32 |
| apachelogger | e.g. foobar -> kdelibs5 (=4.10.0) ... remove foobar to unbreak graph | 12:33 |
| miz | i think i'll move to debian for the next install | 12:34 |
| apachelogger | ppa provides kdelibs5 (4.14.0) but an official package requires kdelibs5 (4.11.0) ... dependency cannot be resolved as it would require a downgrade which may break part of the graph, whereas not downgraded breaks the other half of the graph | 12:34 |
| miz | yes i see | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | miz: that doesn't change anything | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | if a third party introduces crappy packages also debian will fall apart | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | miz. that won't solve your ppa issues if you add them again' | 12:35 |
| miz | i know, just a thought | 12:35 |
| apachelogger | ardian_: I think installing firefox-gnome-support should take care of that | 12:36 |
| miz | but they only have rolling upgrade right? no "distribution" upgrades? | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | miz. do yo have / and/home partitions? | 12:36 |
| miz | no just one | 12:36 |
| ardian_ | apachelogger: isn't there a packe for KDE ? | 12:36 |
| apachelogger | ardian_: no, what for if there is one that works just as well? :P | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | miz it's advisable you create a /home partition on your next clean install | 12:37 |
| miz | right | 12:37 |
| ardian_ | apachelogger: lol hopefully, I am just a bit afraid that it will crash something:P I am using kubuntu lts, is it a good idea to upgrade KDE to the last ver ? | 12:38 |
| miz | btw, when you build and install a software from source, should i install it on ~/bin? | 12:38 |
| apachelogger | ardian_: latest version being? | 12:38 |
| miz | s/you/i/ | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | ardian_: any upgrade you get out of the box is certainly a good idea | 12:39 |
| ardian_ | apachelogger: right now I am on kde 4.8.5, looking forward to add a repo for kde 4.11 | 12:39 |
| apachelogger | if the repo is our repo then the new version certainly will work, whether it's a good idea depends on how stable you want your system to be ;) | 12:40 |
| apachelogger | miz: containing software to ~/ certainly is a good idea | 12:41 |
| apachelogger | next best option would be /usr/local/ | 12:41 |
| miz | apachelogger: are you talking about software built from source, or every software including packages? | 12:42 |
| apachelogger | how would you force a package to install to ~/? | 12:43 |
| miz | don't know, never tried | 12:44 |
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| BluesKaj | apachelogger. I think he said ~/bin , which i haven't heard of before | 12:45 |
| apachelogger | well, it's a bin in your home ;) | 12:46 |
| apachelogger | like /usr/bin, except not in /usr | 12:47 |
| BluesKaj | then you created that path ? | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | beause it doesn't exist by default in my seup | 12:49 |
| BluesKaj | because | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 12:49 |
| * BluesKaj searches for his glasses | 12:49 | |
| apachelogger | you could put exectuables into ~/fluffyunicornsonrainbows/ as long as it is in the PATH variable | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | I fail to see the advantage | 12:50 |
| miz | BluesKaj: i think this is where we're supposed to install the software we build from source, but i'm not sure | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: you don't need to sudo | 12:51 |
| miz | BluesKaj: it's so as not to interfere with the package installs | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | well it's not in /usr anyway if you compile from source | 12:52 |
| BluesKaj | apachelogger. I use aliases in ~/bashrc for a lot of apt-get commands , sudo isn't an issue for me | 12:54 |
| BluesKaj | err aliases | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | it's not that typing sudo that is the problem, it's running it at all | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | yes of course , but it's not a bother for me | 13:03 |
| xee | Hi, I would like to ask why backports(unsupported updates) is enabled by default in Kubuntu, it's not in Ubuntu as far as I know. | 13:24 |
| apachelogger | BluesKaj: it's a security problem, not a bother :P | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | xee: it's not | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | oh it is | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | peculiar | 13:38 |
| * apachelogger installs ubuntu | 13:39 | |
| yofel | IIRC it's enabled by default with a 100 pin | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | I seem to recall some discussion | 13:40 |
| yofel | so nothing's automatically updated | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | so that you can opt to install a specific version | 13:40 |
| menace | how can i reopen a bug in the kde bugtracker? activity manager -> add a widget still crashes with kde 4.11 (kubuntu saucy) (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283626) | 13:52 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 283626 in activities "plasma-desktop crashes when Adding Widget while ActivityManager is visible [@ ActivityManager::setLocation]" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | xee: yeah, works as expected | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | menace: file a new one, it's likely crashing for different reasons | 13:55 |
| menace | for which component/product does the activity manager belong to? | 13:56 |
| menace | kactivity? | 13:56 |
| apachelogger | menace: plasma-desktop activities | 13:56 |
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| zero_coder | hello | 14:11 |
| zero_coder | my computer is freezing at times | 14:11 |
| BluesKaj | zero_coder. have you updated/upgraed lately ? | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | upgraded | 14:12 |
| zero_coder | BluesKaj, yep | 14:12 |
| [Raiden] | hi | 14:12 |
| BluesKaj | zero_coder. which kubuntu version? | 14:13 |
| [Raiden] | from russia with love )) | 14:13 |
| zero_coder | kubuntu 13.10 | 14:13 |
| zero_coder | saucy :) | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | zero_coder. graphics card make ? | 14:13 |
| zero_coder | intel hd 3000 | 14:14 |
| zero_coder | BluesKaj, my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% most of the times in ubuntu and windows | 14:14 |
| zero_coder | i mean the disk transfer rate of hdd | 14:15 |
| BluesKaj | zero_coder. sudo lshw -C video just to make sure , then check your system monitor to see what's using up your resources, or ctrl+esc | 14:16 |
| lordievader | zero_coder: Or install iotop to see what process is generating the disk io. | 14:17 |
| frantic | 14:18 | |
| BluesKaj | ctrl+esc loads system activity on the desktop | 14:18 |
| [Raiden] | no russian channel about kubuntu on this server. This is no good | 14:18 |
| BluesKaj | !ru | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 14:19 |
| [Raiden] | ubottu: ok | 14:19 |
| ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 14:19 |
| [Raiden] | BluesKaj: ok )) | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | {r do you have a question , your english seems quite good | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | [Raiden].^ | 14:20 |
| [Raiden] | I am glad that my English language is clear. No questions asked yet, maybe later :) | 14:21 |
| BluesKaj | [Raiden]. ok :) | 14:21 |
| menace | well, created my first kde bug.. :> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327130 | 14:30 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327130 in desktop "crash after clicking on "add widget" after clicking on "activity manager" in the taskbar-widget" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 14:30 |
| BluesKaj | menace. , just right click on the desktop , all those options will show | 14:34 |
| menace | it still should not crash when i use it with the taskbar-version of the activity manager. either that, or that button is removed in the standard distribution? | 14:35 |
| BluesKaj | oops , gotta go ...BBL | 14:35 |
| menace | did i say something wrong? | 14:36 |
| === soul is now known as Guest42900 | ||
| MangaKaDenza | odd | 14:58 |
| MangaKaDenza | none of the things that require authentication are qorking | 14:58 |
| drbobb | has the alternate (text-mode) installer been discontinued in 13.10? | 14:58 |
| MangaKaDenza | and none of the Password Required prompts are up | 14:58 |
| * genii makes more coffee and stares at MangaKaDenza | 14:59 | |
| * MangaKaDenza makes more MangaKaDenza and stares at coffee | 14:59 | |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: What was the last non-sanctioned operation you did to your poor computer? ;) | 14:59 |
| MangaKaDenza | I installed windows using wine | 15:00 |
| * BluesKaj shakes his head in disbelief | 15:00 | |
| BluesKaj | must be a joke' | 15:00 |
| genii | BluesKaj: Probably not, unfortunately | 15:01 |
| drbobb | the new installer doesn't understand the concept of a statically assigned IP? | 15:01 |
| MangaKaDenza | but seriously though... none of the auth prompts are showing up | 15:01 |
| MangaKaDenza | so I cant install anything in gui mode | 15:01 |
| MangaKaDenza | er | 15:01 |
| MangaKaDenza | or change any system settings | 15:02 |
| MangaKaDenza | ;-; | 15:02 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: Usually has to do with whatever frontend you need to policykit | 15:02 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: I know you're probably not using KDE right now... what desktop are you running? | 15:02 |
| MangaKaDenza | actually KDE finally | 15:03 |
| genii | Hah. | 15:03 |
| MangaKaDenza | 4srs | 15:03 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: Probably need to install polkit-kde-1 package | 15:03 |
| drbobb | power management settings don't work in 13.10? | 15:03 |
| MangaKaDenza | already installed | 15:04 |
| drbobb | no matter how I change the settings, they revert to defaults anyway | 15:04 |
| drbobb | adding the fact that neither video nor wifi work correctly on my laptop any longer, I'm finding 13.10 pretty much broken for me | 15:06 |
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| BluesKaj | drbobb. have you updated and upgraded since the install? | 15:07 |
| drbobb | BluesKaj: sure I have | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | in the last few days ? | 15:08 |
| drbobb | like yesterday | 15:08 |
| BluesKaj | ok , which graphics? | 15:09 |
| drbobb | GeForce 310M | 15:09 |
| BluesKaj | drbobb. then check in the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers | 15:10 |
| drbobb | and tell me, does the installer really not know the concept of a static IP, or am I missing something? | 15:11 |
| drbobb | BluesKaj: I already did, tried all permutations | 15:11 |
| drbobb | nothing works | 15:11 |
| drbobb | tried PPA's as well | 15:11 |
| BluesKaj | are you using network manager or the network/interfaces file settings for setting a static IP | 15:12 |
| MangaKaDenza | sorry, desktop froze | 15:13 |
| drbobb | BluesKaj: afaics, there's no way to do it through the GUI | 15:13 |
| drbobb | so I edit /etc/network/interfaces | 15:13 |
| drbobb | then the installer fails to recognize a network is available | 15:15 |
| drbobb | but anyway, that's rather minor | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | drbobb. yeah , there used to be , but I see that option is removed, then obviously you have to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces ...is this wfi or ethernet? | 15:16 |
| drbobb | in the current case it's eth0 | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | which installer do you mean ? | 15:16 |
| drbobb | the one in the installation image | 15:18 |
| drbobb | there seems to be only one now, the alternate images are gone | 15:18 |
| drbobb | (I really don't like any of these changes, in case you wonder) | 15:18 |
| BluesKaj | which images , the isos ? | 15:19 |
| drbobb | yes, those you reach by following download links on the site | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | they're called packages if you mean apps etc that one installs from the repositories | 15:21 |
| drbobb | BluesKaj: I've been using (k)ubuntu since, like, 2006? | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | download links on what site ? if you continue to be obtuse or don't undestand the nomenclature for OS iso and images then I can't help | 15:24 |
| drbobb | I mean kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso, to be as precise as possible | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | ok , now we're getting somewhere | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | ubiquity doesn't connect to the internet ? | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | live cd or usb? | 15:26 |
| drbobb | live dvd | 15:26 |
| BluesKaj | so it gives an error message that the repos aren't available , correct ? | 15:27 |
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| BluesKaj | the live media doesn't use your static IP settings | 15:28 |
| drbobb | the installer fails to recognize a network is available | 15:28 |
| drbobb | although the connection work fine | 15:28 |
| MangaKaDenza | also, I replaced the linux kernel with an old windows kernel | 15:28 |
| drbobb | but that's a very minor issue | 15:29 |
| drbobb | vs. the fact the I can no longer use my laptop's wifi | 15:29 |
| drbobb | because it connects only to a few select AP's, against most it fails | 15:30 |
| MangaKaDenza | at this point... I'm just throwing stuff around and hoping it doesn't break | 15:31 |
| drbobb | (right now I'm using my android phone as a wifi interface, over usb) | 15:31 |
| drbobb | it's been years since I last had to struggle with ndiswrapper | 15:32 |
| drbobb | but looks like it's the last resort once again | 15:32 |
| BluesKaj | drbobb. which wifi chip? | 15:34 |
| drbobb | BCM4313 | 15:35 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: Is this with the default user that was created or a user which was created afterwards? eg: Subsequent users don't have admin rights by default, only the first user which was made at install time does | 15:35 |
| genii | !bcm | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 15:36 |
| drbobb | thanks, but those docs are outdated | 15:36 |
| genii | drbobb: Yes, they are getting pretty antiquated, unfortunately :-/ | 15:36 |
| drbobb | and this did work pretty well two releases ago | 15:37 |
| drbobb | not quite so well in the previous really | 15:37 |
| drbobb | and not much in the current | 15:37 |
| drbobb | yes I have done my research and I think I tried all options, other than ndiswrapper | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | http://askubuntu.com/questions/94021/how-do-i-get-the-broadcom-bcm4313-wireless-working-on-an-asus-1015px , this one too ? | 15:39 |
| drbobb | BluesKaj: that is pretty old as well | 15:42 |
| BluesKaj | old might work tho | 15:44 |
| BluesKaj | BCM should connect , it's one of the most common | 15:44 |
| drbobb | anyhow: FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found. | 15:44 |
| drbobb | the usual recommendation is to use Broadcom's STA driver, the 'wl' module | 15:45 |
| drbobb | in my case, it works against only one of several AP's I tried it against | 15:46 |
| drbobb | (and not too well in fact) | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | are you on a wan ? | 15:46 |
| BluesKaj | wide area network | 15:47 |
| drbobb | by which you mean? | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | in an office situation with many pcs and APs to the net | 15:50 |
| drbobb | yes in the office we have about a dozen APs spread around the building | 15:51 |
| drbobb | afaik they are cisco, coordinated by a cisco controller | 15:52 |
| BluesKaj | ok , I'm not experienced with that situation | 15:52 |
| drbobb | at home I have some run-of-the-mill linksys, and it works(somewhat) | 15:53 |
| drbobb | meaning it connects ok, but disconnects in a while | 15:53 |
| drbobb | anyhow, for some time each release was better than the previous, but now it seems to be the other way around | 15:58 |
| drbobb | more and more becomes broken | 16:00 |
| drbobb | looks like krdc doesn't work anymore | 16:32 |
| MangaKaDenza | Guys I have another question | 16:34 |
| MangaKaDenza | So I'm trying to play TF2, but when I try to open it, it says I need S3TC support | 16:34 |
| lordievader | MangaKaDenza: http://askubuntu.com/questions/231176/how-do-i-install-s3tc might help. | 16:35 |
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| yossarianuk | MangaKaDenza: what GOU do you have ? | 16:40 |
| yossarianuk | *GPU* | 16:40 |
| MangaKaDenza | AMD APU | 16:40 |
| yossarianuk | MangaKaDenza: if your not already using the binary driver - install it. | 16:43 |
| MangaKaDenza | er | 16:44 |
| MangaKaDenza | using X.Org X server | 16:45 |
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| === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off | ||
| gassho | muon package manager could not download packages | 17:08 |
| gassho | ;-; | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | maybe you're up to date | 17:09 |
| * gassho imagines BluesKaj making a jedi gesture while saying that | 17:16 | |
| genii | gassho: Do you know what packages it's having issue with? | 17:16 |
| genii | ( eg: from the stock repositories, or are these from PPA which were added ) | 17:17 |
| gassho | dunno | 17:17 |
| genii | gassho: I would close Muon for now, and try in Konsole: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ....and then see if any errors are reported | 17:18 |
| gassho | y thank u | 17:20 |
| gassho | it says 'hash sum mismatch | 17:20 |
| gassho | W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages | 17:21 |
| genii | gassho: I recommend: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages ...and then to re-run the commands I gave just earlier | 17:22 |
| genii | ( the lists sometimes become corrupt but the apt-get update will make a new list if one does not exist) | 17:22 |
| Gatak | Hi. I just unstalled kubuntu. KDE seems much more feature-ful than the unity interface. =) | 17:32 |
| gassho | whee | 17:32 |
| gassho | thanks genii | 17:32 |
| Gatak | One thing I noticed though is a lag when opening kontacts and moving the mouse over the menus. They often lag before showing. Is that normal? | 17:33 |
| genii | gassho: You're welcome :) | 17:34 |
| genii | gassho: Your Muon should probably work again now. | 17:35 |
| genii | ( if the apt-get commands are finished) | 17:35 |
| gassho | yup yup yup | 17:37 |
| murali | hi friends. please help me how to install drivers for my new graphic card. i donloaded a file from the website for linux OS. dont know wat to do with it. | 17:40 |
| BluesKaj | Gatak. how long is the lag ? | 17:41 |
| BluesKaj | murali. which graphics card? | 17:41 |
| murali | BluesKaj: Its Zotac Geforce 210 | 17:42 |
| Gatak | BluesKaj: It is tenth of a second or so perhaps and sometimes more | 17:42 |
| Gatak | BluesKaj: Running on a laptop with core2 and ssd disk. fresh install. it seems like kmail has to read some settings before showing some menus. Then it works ok for a bit until it flushes out the setting/menu and it lags again | 17:43 |
| BluesKaj | murali. no need to use your downloaded driver , the right driver in located in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | Gatak. well if you have nepomuk indexer and akonadi running then =you may suffer a slight lag | 17:45 |
| Gatak | How can I tell? :) | 17:47 |
| Gatak | If they are default in kubuntu, then yes I do have them | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | murali. Geforce 210 uses the nvidia gpu | 17:47 |
| murali | BluesKaj, i have got a list of nvedia graphics driver. which once shud i opt for? | 17:48 |
| BluesKaj | Gatak. if you have kmail installed and the desktop search is enabled in system settings | 17:48 |
| BluesKaj | murali. look at the info about the drivers , the 319 driver should listed there , install / activate it | 17:49 |
| murali | BluesKaj: Its downloading now. is there anything that needs to be done installation??? | 17:51 |
| BluesKaj | murali. it will self install the dialog you were just using is the installer as well | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | murali. most likely a reboot will be required | 17:52 |
| murali | BluesKaj: Thank you so much for helping me out. | 17:53 |
| BluesKaj | a notifier will pop up once it's finished installing | 17:53 |
| BluesKaj | np murali , it should work for you | 17:54 |
| murali | BluesKaj, thank you. if any issue, i will get back. | 17:54 |
| BluesKaj | murali. ok | 17:55 |
| Gatak | BluesKaj: ok thanks. I disabled email search | 17:57 |
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| BluesKaj | Gatak. i'm not sure how much difference that will make , it's trade off | 17:58 |
| MangaKaDenza | so I'm using the open source X.Org server thing graphics driver | 18:09 |
| MangaKaDenza | but anywho... it still don't work | 18:09 |
| MangaKaDenza | :< | 18:09 |
| Wizard | Hi. | 18:15 |
| Wizard | Kubuntu 13.10 is not available for amd64? | 18:16 |
| MangaKaDenza | wait what? | 18:16 |
| MangaKaDenza | I just got a notify that there's a new kubuntu | 18:16 |
| MangaKaDenza | but... I already have 13.10 | 18:16 |
| MangaKaDenza | wat | 18:16 |
| Okitain | Hey, does anyone know how to make Firefox use xdg-open? | 18:17 |
| Okitain | Wizard: it totally is. | 18:17 |
| Okitain | I just downloaded it. | 18:17 |
| [Raiden] | Wizard: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.10/release/kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso | 18:18 |
| Wizard | Meh. | 18:18 |
| BluesKaj | Wizard. of courswe it is | 18:18 |
| genii | !doesntwork | MangaKaDenza | 18:19 |
| ubottu | MangaKaDenza: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. | 18:19 |
| MangaKaDenza | genii, TF2 needs some S3TC support thing | 18:19 |
| Wizard | Nah, than either something is wrong or the download link on the website is broken. | 18:19 |
| BluesKaj | Wizard. that URL above posted by [Raiden] should open a downloader | 18:21 |
| genii | Wizard: If you went through the kubuntu site download, it's possible the mirror it redirected you to is currently down/broken. Have you tried directly downloading it from the url [Raiden] just supplied? | 18:21 |
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| Wizard | BluesKaj: Yes, it did. Thanks, [Raiden]. | 18:21 |
| [Raiden] | np | 18:21 |
| Wizard | genii: Yes, that is probable. | 18:21 |
| Okitain | MangaKaDenza: there is libtxc, tried it? | 18:22 |
| Wizard | I didn't know cdimage.ubuntu.com redirects. | 18:22 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: Have you tried picking one of the proprietary drivers from System...Additional Drivers ? | 18:22 |
| MangaKaDenza | genii, would that do the trick | 18:22 |
| PT_Dreamer_ | new plasma-nm is awful | 18:22 |
| genii | MangaKaDenza: Hopefully :) | 18:23 |
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| fusano | salve | 22:31 |
| fusano | !list | 22:31 |
| ubottu | fusano: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». | 22:31 |
| MangaKaDenza | :> | 22:32 |
| MangaKaDenza | Sammael k | 22:44 |
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| === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off | ||
| * Wizard yawns | 23:23 | |
| user___ | hi | 23:48 |
| user___ | want an english/spanish offline translator - google not exceedingly helpful - please help | 23:48 |
| user____ | want an english/spanish offline translator - google not exceedingly helpful for kubuntu 13 - please help | 23:53 |
| MangaKaDenza | plzno | 23:53 |
| user____ | why isn't muon installing apps in kubuntu 13 | 23:53 |
| user____ | MangaKaDenza: plzno at me? | 23:54 |
| MangaKaDenza | uh.. wrong window | 23:54 |
| user____ | k | 23:55 |
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