=== soul is now known as Guest26633 === denysonique_ is now known as denysonique === odibilis_ is now known as odibilis === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === lu is now known as gassho [01:27] :D === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === lu is now known as gassho === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [05:57] moin. [05:57] Is it possible to use Qt 5.1 ? [05:57] on kubuntu [05:58] err is it in apt? [05:58] snax: it's part of Ubuntu's SDK [05:59] so you'd have to install Canonical's PPA for installing the Ubuntu SDK and then install Qt5.1 [05:59] er, Qt5.0 [05:59] I don't think 5.1 has been packaged as of yet [06:00] Do most consumers still use Qt4 still ? [06:00] There aren't even books on Qt5 yet. [06:00] I'd lie if I said it's not widely available [06:00] or use Project Neon [06:00] #project-neon [06:01] it's probably already packaged and ready in Arch Linux (I've attended a Tizen hackathon and saw it in a friend's package manager) [06:01] for more information [06:01] snax: valorie's suggestion is a more natural and safer suggestion [06:01] ok thanks [06:01] also comes with the latest and greatest (though dangerous for production use) version of KDE [06:01] !info libqt5core5 trusty [06:01] dailies, yes [06:01] libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (trusty), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB [06:02] Hm. [06:02] !info libqt5core5 unstable [06:02] libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.1.1+dfsg-5 (unstable), package size 1588 kB, installed size 4721 kB [06:02] :D [06:02] * genii slides Unit193 a tasty coffee [06:21] !info libqt5core5 saucy [06:21] libqt5core5 (source: qtbase-opensource-src): Qt 5 core module. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.2+dfsg1-7ubuntu11 (saucy), package size 1524 kB, installed size 4526 kB [06:21] ah, so saucy comes with Qt5 (probably due to the inclusion of ubuntu-sdk) [06:21] snax: if you're around and you're running 13.10/saucy, Qt5.0.2 is in your standard repos; [06:59] In new kubuntu release please extend apt-get by adding "apt-get downgrade" [07:05] !downgrade [07:05] Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [07:39] ubottu: I'm used after the last update [07:39] dragu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [07:51] Good morning. [07:52] dragu: What do you want to downgrade exactly? From 13.10 to 13.04? === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [07:58] lordievader: everything [08:01] dragu: So from 13.10 to 13.04? Yes this is not supported. Only way to go would be a reinstall of Raring. [08:02] lordievader: I know, that's why I'm very unhappy [08:02] so many things doesn't work === jayhunold is now known as jhunold [08:34] dragu: it'd help us help you if you explained what wasn't working [08:56] hi all [09:00] jalcine: for example bluetooth mouse, after awake it's hard to make it work. When connection is fine, but mouse jams [09:00] I added multiply languages in kubuntu 13.10, for some reason my terminal started to use portuguese but all other applications are in English. (i want everything in English) how do i set it back? [09:01] dragu: I can't remember 100% but I know some heavy bluetooth changes have been made in the upgrade [09:01] I know because my phone and headphones got borked too [09:01] but I just removed the old profiles from my config and addded them back in bluedevil and they worked [09:01] excognac: I can understand the shell, if you do 'env | grep LC'; you'll see [09:02] but you might have not set the default system language to be Portuguese [09:02] jalcine: i never did just added 4 languages in System Settings>Locale [09:03] jalcine: http://pastebin.kde.org/pd80mhyn7 [09:03] that's aint funny [09:04] haha good one ;) [09:04] I think changing the locale options *might* require a login/logoff to take full effect. kdeinit is still using the older LC_* values [09:05] though I think it should be able to hotswap those values when you change the language [09:07] jalcine: shall i try to reboot and see what happens?M [09:08] If a reboot isn't too long, otherwise a login/logout would be safe since it cycles kdeinit [09:10] jalcine: logged out and in, terminal does the same [09:10] jalcine: and the command has the same output [09:11] very interesting. try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and select english as your default term locale === ahmad_safty is now known as nsh [09:13] excognac: Or edit /etc/default/locale manually. [09:14] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale#Troubleshooting might help as well [09:14] ah, beat me to it [09:18] jalcine: ty worked [09:22] excognac: sweet! [09:24] i'm trying to add a network printer. what's the differnce between PCX and PCL drivers? [09:24] *PXL and PCL [09:35] anybody has too much freetime and help me to set up a network printer? (Canon i-sensys MF9170 connected with X-cable to router) [09:35] excognac: where are you at with it ? [09:39] jussi: well, the printer has a superfancy panel, i can set shit load of things. i set now at Ipv4 settings>ip adress and BOOTP. i cant see it with ping [09:39] excognac: have you installed the driver from canon on your PC? [09:40] jussi: i did, it worked fine on another machine with usb. [09:41] excognac: yeah, so the network thing is the issue. all I can say is "keep fiddling" - its a bit hard without having any of the interfaces in front of me/or experience with the printer [09:41] sorry :/ [09:44] jussi: np, just opne thing: which of these protocols should be the least problematic? DHCP BOOTP RARP? [09:44] dhcp [09:45] that means it takes the assigned address given by the router [09:47] jussi: how do i find what the router gives? [09:48] excognac: just go to localhost:631 and see if it detects the printer if you try add it ? [09:50] ok. it gave me an ip address it has a suubnet mask and now i can set vaules for pass which is currently 0.0.0.0. [09:50] jussi: shall ^ i set that? [09:50] excognac: did it find it from the web UI on your pc? [09:52] jussi: nope [09:53] excognac: youll have to ask someone with more experience than me. sorry [09:53] jussi: np, stilll thanks for giving it a try [09:57] jalcine: lol. now nano uses portuguese in the menu, otherwise konsole is in english [10:12] mune software crash issue [10:14] hello? [10:19] lordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc* [10:19] lordievader: lol knsole still talks in portuguese here's ther output of /etc/default/locale http://pastebin.kde.org/pwoyjd8hv [10:21] excognac: Did you reboot? I wouldn't be surprised if such a change does require you to reboot. [10:21] lordievader: i just logged in and out, but correc t i try to reboot now [10:32] lordievader: still the same after reboot. [10:35] excognac: Are we talking about the Konsole or the shell? [10:36] lordievader: Well. the Konsole i guess. i installed something with muon and then everything appeared in English there ( i guess that was shell) [10:37] excognac: Is the language in the menu and preferences (etc) from konsole wrong. Or the output language from commands. [10:37] ? [10:39] lordievader: oh sorry with operating with wrong terms. just the output language appears in portugues (English would be desired) everzything else, menues etc. are inEnglish [10:39] Hi peeps. I have a problem. [10:40] excognac: Right, ok so it is the shell (bash probably). [10:40] My flash drive, previously used by Ubuntu Live (via dd) still thinks there is an ubuntu there, after a format and a total partition table reinstall. [10:40] How to make it not do that? [10:41] excognac: Could you pastebin the output of "env|grep LANG"? [10:42] lordievader: http://pastebin.kde.org/pvhjtf4ws === soul is now known as Guest17539 [10:48] excognac: Hmm, you could try running 'sudo update-locale LANG="en_GB.UTF-8" LANGUAGE="en_GB"' to get rid of the 4 languages. [10:53] lordievader: and rebot? [10:55] excognac: Yes, that is probably wise. [10:56] lordievader: output language is still the same. reboot will only happen a few hours later as I'm copying a huge load of data [10:57] excognac: What does "locale" report? Still 4 languages? [10:57] cat ~/.kde/env/* [10:58] lordievader: env | grep LANG has the exact same output yes [11:02] excognac: Have you done what apachelogger said? [11:05] lordievader: apachelogger: cat ~/.kde/env/* export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en_US:pt:fr:hu:en [11:05] kcmshell4 language [11:06] second tab, left hand side [11:06] will only apply on next login though [11:06] eh, right hand side xD [11:12] apachelogger: yeah i have 4 (5 with British) here. As i use these 4, however, i would like to have English everywhere (output for shell and so) [11:13] oh, possibly there's a bug [11:15] excognac: British is on top I suppose? [11:15] apachelogger: you don't say [11:16] lordievader: yes [11:16] I mean, the KCM should probably map en_US to en for LANGUAGE values, it just doesn't xD [11:16] untested use case that is [11:17] excognac: if you export LANGUAGE=en_GB:en:pt:fr:hu:en the terminal apps are english I presume? [11:20] apachelogger:nope, nano's output/menu is still portuguese [11:20] and terminal output is still portuguese [11:21] excognac: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+filebug bug report please, this will need some looking into [11:23] apachelogger: i'll copy there the output of commands too. [11:23] thanks [11:33] apachelogger: i'd use 12.04 if iut could handloe my processor+graphics but it simply can't. (Also, current 13.10 thinks i have 4 screens with 3 monitors) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/+bug/1247802 [11:33] Ubuntu bug 1247802 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "adding langues to locale changes terminal output language" [Undecided,New] [11:33] 'Morning folks [11:44] BluesKaj: i'm sorry i had a disconnection yesterday; i tried to remove my thrid party ppas (just by deleting sources.list.d), but i'm still getting the same error during "do-release-upgrade" [11:46] so i still cannot upgrade to 13.10 [11:46] miz .the ppas are in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d [11:46] BluesKaj: yes i deleted that whole folder [11:47] but i'm not sure it was enough to remove the associated packages [11:47] oops i misread , ok one doesn't delete the file , just the ppas located there [11:48] BluesKaj: what can i do now? because i don't remember the dozens of ppa's that were there [11:49] the ppas are probly still in muon since you probly didn't update after deleting, correct? [11:50] BluesKaj: i did update (and upgrade) and autoremove etc. but nothing much happened [11:50] vheck muon [11:50] err check === MostEvilRoey is now known as Roey [11:53] in "Other Software" i have "canonical partners", "independent" and "independent source-code", should i uncheck these? [11:55] BluesKaj: i tried to do that, and then apt-get upgrade and upgrade, but still getting the same error on do-release-upgrade [11:58] hi [12:00] hi Caleb-- [12:00] when i run "date", or for example "ls -l" the month is printed in hebrew instead of english for me (my country was set to Israel) [12:00] is there a way for me to change that so it prints in english instead? [12:02] Caleb--: I do not know the answer to that one sorry, but have a look in the locale part of system settings as a guess [12:02] miz. , check muon sources >updtaes tab>"show new distribution releases , make sure it's set to normal releases [12:02] BluesKaj: yes it is, muon does notify me of a new release, and i get the same error with the GUI updater === mgagne is now known as Guest40302 [12:04] ok miz , what's the error ? [12:10] BluesKaj: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.This can be caused by:* Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu* Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu [12:10] jussi, looks like the output of "locale" is LC_TIME=he_IL.UTF-8 [12:11] Caleb--: but did you look in the system settings "locale" section? [12:11] the KDE Sysetm Settings don't have an option for changing that :S [12:11] ^ in the locale section [12:15] hm, i might need to edit /etc/default/locale [12:17] miz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade [12:17] apachelogger: lol, i have now 2 Konsole windows open. the second one has french output [12:18] BluesKaj: sorry, had to reboot: http://pastebin.com/ycuh13t0 [12:18] miz. scroll about 1/3 down on this page , find 10 answers . http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/upgrading-13-04-to-13-10-could-not-calculate-the-upgrade [12:18] BluesKaj: yep, this is the pastebin for the first suggestion [12:19] BluesKaj: i also tried the set-selections suggestion, but i have no package in "hold" state [12:20] BluesKaj: and in main.log, i have: http://i.imgur.com/VXArV02.png [12:20] excognac: paste env of both [12:22] BluesKaj: i'll try to horrible script of the rude guy [12:22] s/to/the/ [12:22] well mix , suggest you backup your data and do a clean install [12:23] or ppa-purge every ppa [12:24] apachelogger: i don't have the list of the ppa anymore [12:24] perhaps someone else recognizes a fix to your problem , miz , but I have no ideas [12:24] np [12:24] apachelogger. , miz deleted the sources.list.d folder [12:24] Hi, I am using Kubuntu 12.04 is it a good idea to upgrade KDE ? [12:25] why that's unhelpful xD [12:25] miz: FWIW /var/log/updater or somesuch folder *may* contain a list [12:25] so you can add them back and then ppa-purge [12:26] apachelogger: i'm running http://pastebin.com/5sqfXsJK right now [12:26] generally speaking new install is less of a hassle ;) [12:26] miz: ehm [12:26] yeah [12:26] that is not supported [12:26] also that will install ubuntu desktop :P [12:27] ye i saw that too late :( [12:27] mh [12:27] there's so much wrong with that command I think my head will explode now [12:28] meeh, it's going to be fine :) [12:28] miz don't do stuff we're not aware of . otherwisew how can anyone hrlp if they don't know the state of your install [12:28] help [12:28] apachelogger: i cant paste it, kde.pastbin says i'm a spammer [12:29] excognac: paste.ubuntu.com [12:29] paste.kde is rubbish [12:29] BluesKaj: i wasn't getting any new suggestion [12:29] don't use it [12:29] miz , i already told you , a clean install is probly your best alternative to the mess you have [12:30] yes i agree, but that's not an option atm, i'd have too much backup to do [12:30] don't have the time [12:31] * BluesKaj shrugs , well then don't upgrade until you have the time [12:31] on the plus side, you can do a clean install with /home on a separate partitoin and once you have a clean install you can choose not to add all sorts of PPAs and thus enable flawless upgrades from hereon out :P [12:31] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/ [12:31] apachelogger: do you prefer building external software from source rather than having them on ppa? [12:31] don't think he has ? and /home partitions [12:32] miz: external software would not hold back upgrades [12:32] correction / and /home [12:32] upgrades are only held back when you have a dependency graph that cannot be resolved [12:32] I am very new to KDE, and I use Firefox but I am having some problems with it like if I try to open an archive file, it asks me with what I want to open it [12:32] if the dependency of a third party application breaks the application will be removed to resolve the dependency graph [12:33] e.g. foobar -> kdelibs5 (=4.10.0) ... remove foobar to unbreak graph [12:34] i think i'll move to debian for the next install [12:34] ppa provides kdelibs5 (4.14.0) but an official package requires kdelibs5 (4.11.0) ... dependency cannot be resolved as it would require a downgrade which may break part of the graph, whereas not downgraded breaks the other half of the graph [12:35] yes i see [12:35] miz: that doesn't change anything [12:35] if a third party introduces crappy packages also debian will fall apart [12:35] miz. that won't solve your ppa issues if you add them again' [12:35] i know, just a thought [12:36] ardian_: I think installing firefox-gnome-support should take care of that [12:36] but they only have rolling upgrade right? no "distribution" upgrades? [12:36] miz. do yo have / and/home partitions? [12:36] no just one [12:36] apachelogger: isn't there a packe for KDE ? [12:37] ardian_: no, what for if there is one that works just as well? :P [12:37] miz it's advisable you create a /home partition on your next clean install [12:37] right [12:38] apachelogger: lol hopefully, I am just a bit afraid that it will crash something:P I am using kubuntu lts, is it a good idea to upgrade KDE to the last ver ? [12:38] btw, when you build and install a software from source, should i install it on ~/bin? [12:38] ardian_: latest version being? [12:39] s/you/i/ [12:39] ardian_: any upgrade you get out of the box is certainly a good idea [12:39] apachelogger: right now I am on kde 4.8.5, looking forward to add a repo for kde 4.11 [12:40] if the repo is our repo then the new version certainly will work, whether it's a good idea depends on how stable you want your system to be ;) [12:41] miz: containing software to ~/ certainly is a good idea [12:41] next best option would be /usr/local/ [12:42] apachelogger: are you talking about software built from source, or every software including packages? [12:43] how would you force a package to install to ~/? [12:44] don't know, never tried === Steakanbake is now known as Steakanbake|slee [12:45] apachelogger. I think he said ~/bin , which i haven't heard of before [12:46] well, it's a bin in your home ;) [12:47] like /usr/bin, except not in /usr [12:48] then you created that path ? [12:49] beause it doesn't exist by default in my seup [12:49] because [12:49] yeah [12:49] * BluesKaj searches for his glasses [12:50] you could put exectuables into ~/fluffyunicornsonrainbows/ as long as it is in the PATH variable [12:50] I fail to see the advantage [12:51] BluesKaj: i think this is where we're supposed to install the software we build from source, but i'm not sure [12:51] BluesKaj: you don't need to sudo [12:51] BluesKaj: it's so as not to interfere with the package installs [12:52] well it's not in /usr anyway if you compile from source [12:54] apachelogger. I use aliases in ~/bashrc for a lot of apt-get commands , sudo isn't an issue for me [12:55] err aliases [12:59] it's not that typing sudo that is the problem, it's running it at all [13:03] yes of course , but it's not a bother for me [13:24] Hi, I would like to ask why backports(unsupported updates) is enabled by default in Kubuntu, it's not in Ubuntu as far as I know. [13:37] BluesKaj: it's a security problem, not a bother :P [13:37] xee: it's not [13:38] oh it is [13:38] peculiar [13:39] * apachelogger installs ubuntu [13:40] IIRC it's enabled by default with a 100 pin [13:40] I seem to recall some discussion [13:40] so nothing's automatically updated [13:40] so that you can opt to install a specific version [13:52] how can i reopen a bug in the kde bugtracker? activity manager -> add a widget still crashes with kde 4.11 (kubuntu saucy) (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283626) [13:53] KDE bug 283626 in activities "plasma-desktop crashes when Adding Widget while ActivityManager is visible [@ ActivityManager::setLocation]" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [13:54] xee: yeah, works as expected [13:55] menace: file a new one, it's likely crashing for different reasons [13:56] for which component/product does the activity manager belong to? [13:56] kactivity? [13:56] menace: plasma-desktop activities === Steakanbake|slee is now known as Steakanbake [14:11] hello [14:11] my computer is freezing at times [14:12] zero_coder. have you updated/upgraed lately ? [14:12] upgraded [14:12] BluesKaj, yep [14:12] <[Raiden]> hi [14:13] zero_coder. which kubuntu version? [14:13] <[Raiden]> from russia with love )) [14:13] kubuntu 13.10 [14:13] saucy :) [14:13] zero_coder. graphics card make ? [14:14] intel hd 3000 [14:14] BluesKaj, my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% most of the times in ubuntu and windows [14:15] i mean the disk transfer rate of hdd [14:16] zero_coder. sudo lshw -C video just to make sure , then check your system monitor to see what's using up your resources, or ctrl+esc [14:17] zero_coder: Or install iotop to see what process is generating the disk io. [14:18] [14:18] ctrl+esc loads system activity on the desktop [14:18] <[Raiden]> no russian channel about kubuntu on this server. This is no good [14:19] !ru [14:19] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [14:19] <[Raiden]> ubottu: ok [14:19] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [14:19] <[Raiden]> BluesKaj: ok )) [14:19] {r do you have a question , your english seems quite good [14:20] [Raiden].^ [14:21] <[Raiden]> I am glad that my English language is clear. No questions asked yet, maybe later :) [14:21] [Raiden]. ok :) [14:30] well, created my first kde bug.. :> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327130 [14:30] KDE bug 327130 in desktop "crash after clicking on "add widget" after clicking on "activity manager" in the taskbar-widget" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [14:34] menace. , just right click on the desktop , all those options will show [14:35] it still should not crash when i use it with the taskbar-version of the activity manager. either that, or that button is removed in the standard distribution? [14:35] oops , gotta go ...BBL [14:36] did i say something wrong? === soul is now known as Guest42900 [14:58] odd [14:58] none of the things that require authentication are qorking [14:58] has the alternate (text-mode) installer been discontinued in 13.10? [14:58] and none of the Password Required prompts are up [14:59] * genii makes more coffee and stares at MangaKaDenza [14:59] * MangaKaDenza makes more MangaKaDenza and stares at coffee [14:59] MangaKaDenza: What was the last non-sanctioned operation you did to your poor computer? ;) [15:00] I installed windows using wine [15:00] * BluesKaj shakes his head in disbelief [15:00] must be a joke' [15:01] BluesKaj: Probably not, unfortunately [15:01] the new installer doesn't understand the concept of a statically assigned IP? [15:01] but seriously though... none of the auth prompts are showing up [15:01] so I cant install anything in gui mode [15:01] er [15:02] or change any system settings [15:02] ;-; [15:02] MangaKaDenza: Usually has to do with whatever frontend you need to policykit [15:02] MangaKaDenza: I know you're probably not using KDE right now... what desktop are you running? [15:03] actually KDE finally [15:03] Hah. [15:03] 4srs [15:03] MangaKaDenza: Probably need to install polkit-kde-1 package [15:03] power management settings don't work in 13.10? [15:04] already installed [15:04] no matter how I change the settings, they revert to defaults anyway [15:06] adding the fact that neither video nor wifi work correctly on my laptop any longer, I'm finding 13.10 pretty much broken for me === odibilis_ is now known as odibilis [15:07] drbobb. have you updated and upgraded since the install? [15:08] BluesKaj: sure I have [15:08] in the last few days ? [15:08] like yesterday [15:09] ok , which graphics? [15:09] GeForce 310M [15:10] drbobb. then check in the kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers [15:11] and tell me, does the installer really not know the concept of a static IP, or am I missing something? [15:11] BluesKaj: I already did, tried all permutations [15:11] nothing works [15:11] tried PPA's as well [15:12] are you using network manager or the network/interfaces file settings for setting a static IP [15:13] sorry, desktop froze [15:13] BluesKaj: afaics, there's no way to do it through the GUI [15:13] so I edit /etc/network/interfaces [15:15] then the installer fails to recognize a network is available [15:16] but anyway, that's rather minor [15:16] drbobb. yeah , there used to be , but I see that option is removed, then obviously you have to set it up in /etc/network/interfaces ...is this wfi or ethernet? [15:16] in the current case it's eth0 [15:16] which installer do you mean ? [15:18] the one in the installation image [15:18] there seems to be only one now, the alternate images are gone [15:18] (I really don't like any of these changes, in case you wonder) [15:19] which images , the isos ? [15:20] yes, those you reach by following download links on the site [15:21] they're called packages if you mean apps etc that one installs from the repositories [15:23] BluesKaj: I've been using (k)ubuntu since, like, 2006? [15:24] download links on what site ? if you continue to be obtuse or don't undestand the nomenclature for OS iso and images then I can't help [15:24] I mean kubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso, to be as precise as possible [15:25] ok , now we're getting somewhere [15:25] ubiquity doesn't connect to the internet ? [15:26] live cd or usb? [15:26] live dvd [15:27] so it gives an error message that the repos aren't available , correct ? === bubo is now known as Guest18709 [15:28] the live media doesn't use your static IP settings [15:28] the installer fails to recognize a network is available [15:28] although the connection work fine [15:28] also, I replaced the linux kernel with an old windows kernel [15:29] but that's a very minor issue [15:29] vs. the fact the I can no longer use my laptop's wifi [15:30] because it connects only to a few select AP's, against most it fails [15:31] at this point... I'm just throwing stuff around and hoping it doesn't break [15:31] (right now I'm using my android phone as a wifi interface, over usb) [15:32] it's been years since I last had to struggle with ndiswrapper [15:32] but looks like it's the last resort once again [15:34] drbobb. which wifi chip? [15:35] BCM4313 [15:35] MangaKaDenza: Is this with the default user that was created or a user which was created afterwards? eg: Subsequent users don't have admin rights by default, only the first user which was made at install time does [15:36] !bcm [15:36] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [15:36] thanks, but those docs are outdated [15:36] drbobb: Yes, they are getting pretty antiquated, unfortunately :-/ [15:37] and this did work pretty well two releases ago [15:37] not quite so well in the previous really [15:37] and not much in the current [15:38] yes I have done my research and I think I tried all options, other than ndiswrapper [15:39] http://askubuntu.com/questions/94021/how-do-i-get-the-broadcom-bcm4313-wireless-working-on-an-asus-1015px , this one too ? [15:42] BluesKaj: that is pretty old as well [15:44] old might work tho [15:44] BCM should connect , it's one of the most common [15:44] anyhow: FATAL: Module brcm80211 not found. [15:45] the usual recommendation is to use Broadcom's STA driver, the 'wl' module [15:46] in my case, it works against only one of several AP's I tried it against [15:46] (and not too well in fact) [15:46] are you on a wan ? [15:47] wide area network [15:48] by which you mean? [15:50] in an office situation with many pcs and APs to the net [15:51] yes in the office we have about a dozen APs spread around the building [15:52] afaik they are cisco, coordinated by a cisco controller [15:52] ok , I'm not experienced with that situation [15:53] at home I have some run-of-the-mill linksys, and it works(somewhat) [15:53] meaning it connects ok, but disconnects in a while [15:58] anyhow, for some time each release was better than the previous, but now it seems to be the other way around [16:00] more and more becomes broken [16:32] looks like krdc doesn't work anymore [16:34]