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| pitti | Good morning | 05:23 |
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| pitti | desrt: so it seems I found a hack for bug 1184262, but for fixing it properly we shouldn't set up the timeout at the beginning of shim_method_call() but at its end | 05:47 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1184262 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu) "[logind] times out too early, stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184262 | 05:47 |
| pitti | desrt: or somehow disable the timeout while a method call is pending | 05:47 |
| mlankhorst | morning! | 07:25 |
| sil2100 | Morning! | 07:47 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 10:00 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! | 10:01 |
| seb128 | didrocks, lut ;-) | 10:01 |
| didrocks | ;) | 10:01 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks et seb128, comment alles-vous ? avons-vous eu un bon voyage retour ? | 10:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: ça va bien, mais fatigué! bon voyage de retour, mais pas réussi à vraiment dormir :/ | 10:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: et toi? tout va bien? | 10:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ça va bien merci! J'ai dormis 4-5h dans l'avion, et hier soir de 22h à ce matin 9h30. Et toi, le W.E était bien ? | 10:18 |
| pitti | didrocks, seb128: oui, nous avons eu un grand week-end; lots of hiking through the Alps, some massages, sauna every day, great food, lots of time for reading and sleeping | 10:20 |
| didrocks | sounds excellent and relaxing! :) | 10:20 |
| seb128 | nice! | 10:20 |
| pitti | seb128, didrocks: did you enjoy the week, was it usefuL? | 10:21 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, happy about it. I guess good progress and more technical deep dive in particular issues | 10:22 |
| * didrocks also has high hope for the CI system evolution | 10:22 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I enjoyed it a lot, nice to see everyone, and it was quite useful for touch settings and for desktop LTS planning/discussing what we are going to do | 10:22 |
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| mlankhorst | everyone back yet? | 11:19 |
| davmor2 | chrisccoulson: in 13.10 is it me or is FF not using the right theme? | 11:20 |
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| xnox | seb128: re "Alt+Shift" shortcuts, do you know why each time I boot ubiquity I get a bubble notification from iBus "Default shortcut is now Super+Space" or something? is some-kind of migration running that pops that up? | 12:22 |
| xnox | seb128: and if the default changed to Super-Space, is bug #1242572 in ubiquity or something that provides ubuntu-desktop settings defaults? | 12:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1242572 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Ubiquity sets Alt+Shift shortcut for layout switching, while installed system uses Super+Space" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242572 | 12:23 |
| xnox | (do mind ubiquity is the same & i don't know what Ubuntu Gnome wants in this respect: e.g. more like GNOME default or more like across-Ubuntu default. | 12:24 |
| seb128 | xnox, I think the notification is a migration thing yes, I need to look a bit more into that | 12:24 |
| seb128 | xnox, not sure where "alt-shift" in ubiquity comes from, I guess from default xorg options or something | 12:25 |
| xnox | seb128: no, ubiquity hard-codes that. | 12:26 |
| xnox | seb128: but it should match the /everything-else/ on the desktop i think. | 12:26 |
| seb128 | well, GNOME changed the default to super-space in 3.8 | 12:26 |
| xnox | seb128: so from the bug, i'm not sure if ubiquity should stay at "alt-shift" or change to "super-space" | 12:26 |
| seb128 | well, I'm not decided on that | 12:26 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering changing back g-s-d to alt-shift | 12:26 |
| xnox | seb128: you only type in english these days? =) | 12:26 |
| seb128 | because super is already used by unity stuff | 12:26 |
| seb128 | so super-space some of conflicts with other super use | 12:27 |
| seb128 | and make the keybinding less reliable | 12:27 |
| xnox | seb128: yeah, and tbh, for all my live i've never did myself, nor seen anybody else use "super-space" to change layouts. | 12:27 |
| seb128 | xnox, seems like super-space is the default on macOS... | 12:27 |
| xnox | seb128: well "alt" can pop-up the "hud-completion thing" | 12:27 |
| seb128 | xnox, like the hud was not already an issue ... and everybody remap hud to a key they don't use right? :p | 12:28 |
| xnox | seb128: well, it's not really "super-space" wasn't it the mac-button which is at the place where our alt is? | 12:28 |
| xnox | seb128: cause hud only works in en_US.UTF-8? =)))) </trolling> | 12:28 |
| seb128 | xnox, yeah, google seems to suggest they use "command-space" | 12:31 |
| xnox | seb128: hm.... | 12:31 |
| * xnox ponders what's Windows 8 default these days. | 12:31 | |
| seb128 | xnox, http://blog.the-it-blog.co.uk/2013/02/22/some-windows-8-keybindings/ | 12:32 |
| seb128 | xnox, "Win+spacebar : Switch input language and keyboard layout" | 12:32 |
| xnox | seb128: i use emacs a lot, and back in the day when hud was introduced, it did "clash" with emacs M-x, but these days the detection is pretty good. And I'd expect the error rate of "super/alt" with/without modifier should be about the same. | 12:32 |
| xnox | seb128: right, so matching the $world makes sense, in that case ubiquity should change, | 12:32 |
| seb128 | xnox, right | 12:33 |
| * xnox will write a blog post for those who didn't know (like me) | 12:33 | |
| xnox | seb128: ok, then the bug is in ubiquity and i'll fix it there and also check up with d-i / console-setup and friends. | 12:33 |
| seb128 | xnox, thanks | 12:34 |
| seb128 | xnox, I still would like to see some confirmations that super-space works correctly | 12:34 |
| seb128 | I played a bit with it and it seemed it didn't work great, or you have to hold super for a bit | 12:35 |
| xnox | seb128: well holding it too long, unity help-shortcuts pop-up. | 12:36 |
| seb128 | right | 12:36 |
| seb128 | that's another issue | 12:36 |
| xnox | and changing keyboard layout should be added to it. | 12:36 |
| seb128 | but just "tapping" super-space was not reliable when I tried | 12:36 |
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| xnox | i think i need to boot into clean install, it's not changing anything for me. | 12:37 |
| Laney | hey ;-) | 12:43 |
| Laney | not really here today but I saw https://launchpadlibrarian.net/155743775/accountsservice_0.6.34-0ubuntu6_0.6.34-0ubuntu7.diff.gz go past | 12:43 |
| Laney | it's wrong, does someone want to deal with it? | 12:43 |
| Laney | first of all the dpkg -l isn't right, it matches too often, and secondly casing on the presence of a package to change tool behaviour is just plain bad | 12:45 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, had a good flight back? | 12:46 |
| seb128 | Laney, when are you back? I think that one can wait on you to be back ;-) | 12:46 |
| Laney | sure, just saw it and got slightly irritated :P | 12:47 |
| Laney | flight was good thanks, got back an hour or so ahead of schedule | 12:47 |
| seb128 | yeah, those accountsservice hacks are annoying, would be nice to clean :/ | 12:47 |
| Laney | maybe I'll work up an example patch | 12:49 |
| Laney | hope you had a nice trip back too! | 12:49 |
| seb128 | I did, we got an hour delay in SF but we got it back during the flight | 12:50 |
| seb128 | I also managed to sleep for half of the flight, which made easy to stay up on sunday and avoid jetlag | 12:50 |
| Laney | wow, impressive | 12:50 |
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| seb128 | Laney, you have the week off or just today? | 12:53 |
| Laney | just today | 12:53 |
| seb128 | k | 12:53 |
| Laney | doing a couple of Debian uploads then off to town | 12:54 |
| seb128 | have fun! | 12:54 |
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| attente | seb128, can we do another SRU for g-c-c? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | attente, hey, had a good flight back? | 14:04 |
| seb128 | attente, sure, what else did you get fixed? | 14:04 |
| attente | seb128, double modifiers like shift+shift_r | 14:05 |
| seb128 | attente, seems to be working for me already | 14:05 |
| attente | seb128, is it in saucy proposed? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | attente, we have that one in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/1:3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1 | 14:06 |
| seb128 | attente, diff is http://launchpadlibrarian.net/155443518/gnome-control-center_1%3A3.6.3-0ubuntu45_1%3A3.6.3-0ubuntu45.1.diff.gz | 14:06 |
| attente | oh. ok | 14:07 |
| seb128 | attente, is that the one you wanted? | 14:07 |
| attente | seb128, yes | 14:07 |
| seb128 | great | 14:07 |
| attente | sorry, i didn't see it | 14:08 |
| seb128 | no worry | 14:08 |
| seb128 | you asked about it during the sprint and we got it uploaded midweek | 14:08 |
| seb128 | attente, I've been triaging a bit the keyboard bugs today btw | 14:08 |
| attente | seb128, i noticed, thanks for that | 14:09 |
| seb128 | attente, yw | 14:09 |
| seb128 | attente, not sure which ones are on your list, but I've noticed 2 that are easy to confirm | 14:09 |
| attente | which ones? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | - on my keyboard the numlock led is turned off when cycle layouts (but it keeps acting if it was on) | 14:10 |
| seb128 | (I'm using an usb keyboard while docked) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1247363 | 14:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1247363 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Japanese keyboard layout intercepts caps lock key in ubuntu 13.10 " [Low,Confirmed] | 14:11 |
| seb128 | e.g settings "capslock" for switching works | 14:11 |
| seb128 | but for some reason not with japanese | 14:12 |
| seb128 | e.g it cycles fine fr->en->ru->pinyin here | 14:12 |
| seb128 | but once you hit japanese/anthi it doesn't move | 14:12 |
| seb128 | that one is probably low importance, I guess using capslock is not a common config | 14:13 |
| attente | yeah, i'm not too sure | 14:15 |
| attente | maybe that input method is setting an xkb option | 14:16 |
| attente | there's an xkb option to switch the position of the ctrl and caps lock keys | 14:17 |
| seb128 | attente, not that I can see in "setxkbmap -print" | 14:21 |
| seb128 | attente, sorry, -print doesn't print option, -query does | 14:25 |
| seb128 | attente, indeed | 14:25 |
| seb128 | options: grp_led:caps,compose:rwin | 14:25 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:28 |
| seb128 | but that's the case for other keymaps as well | 14:28 |
| sil2100 | alex-abreu: ping | 14:30 |
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| seb128 | attente, is super-space working for you? it seems to not cycle layout for me with the current versions... | 14:49 |
| attente | seb128, it's working for me | 14:51 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, it's working now, I had to disable it from ibus-setup though | 14:51 |
| attente | like changing the switching shortcut under ibus? | 14:52 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:52 |
| attente | because right now both are set to super space for me | 14:52 |
| seb128 | I wonder if there is a "whatever starts first gets to grab that key" | 14:53 |
| attente | it might be | 14:53 |
| seb128 | attente, do you think that moving the keys grabbing to unity and using the next group stuff is going to be enough to put us back in shape? | 15:00 |
| attente | seb128, it should be, but i'm wondering if there's any low-hanging fruit left that we can fix right now | 15:01 |
| seb128 | attente, I start wondering if we should go back to the old libgnomekbd-use way, at least as a backend (e.g keeping the indicator and new UI), though I'm not sure how compatible that would be with the new ibus stuff | 15:01 |
| seb128 | attente, I'm not sure even sure what GNOME tried to resolve there, they basically moved away from xkb but they went back to use it with their nextgroup etc | 15:02 |
| attente | i guess there's the four groups limitation | 15:03 |
| attente | i'm not sure | 15:03 |
| attente | i wonder if the concerns are based on what's in -proposed or what's currently in archive | 15:04 |
| seb128 | attente, some of the users are just in ranting mode, it's hard to know what is really frustrating them | 15:05 |
| seb128 | to me the current situation seems usable | 15:05 |
| seb128 | out of the fact that the "modifier only" actions eat keybindings using the same modifiers | 15:06 |
| mlankhorst | vila: enjoy, I found a fix for glamor-egl :P | 15:23 |
| mlankhorst | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=88619 | 15:23 |
| vila | mlankhorst: \o/ | 15:27 |
| vila | mlankhorst: how will that found its way in trusty ? | 15:28 |
| mlankhorst | probably on next upload, I want to hear from upstream first | 15:33 |
| vila | mlankhorst: ok, ping me or Mirv when that happens | 15:34 |
| mlankhorst | that's what the bug is for, I'll just mention it in the changelog and you'll get a email when it happens | 15:34 |
| mlankhorst | :P | 15:34 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, sil2100: can we get an sru out for indicator-sound13.10? | 15:42 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, sil2100: sorry, I meant to ask for ido-13.10 | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | seb128: didn't we do ido on thursday? | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | I think it's in the queue | 15:43 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, right, it's still in the queue | 15:43 |
| seb128 | need to chase SRU team | 15:43 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey btw, had a good trip back? | 15:43 |
| cyphermox | yeah | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | how about you? | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | I wasn't going through LAX :) | 15:44 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, mine was good, I managed to sleep in the plane enough to not fall asleep before 10pm yesterday night | 15:46 |
| seb128 | qengho, hey | 15:49 |
| qengho | seb128: hi | 15:50 |
| seb128 | qengho, did you have a good flight back? | 15:50 |
| seb128 | qengho, I saw you set that chromium segfault fix commited, good work. Do you have a pointer to the fix for it? (it would also be nice to update the upstream bug status if you have a fix, so others don't dup the work you did) | 15:51 |
| qengho | seb128: flights were okay. between flights not okay. :) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | oh? did you connect in lax? | 15:54 |
| qengho | seb128: Yes. Had to exit airport, walk along sidewalk, and reenter somewhere else to get to plane. I ran 0.5 km and made it by 10 seconds. No exaggeration. | 15:55 |
| seb128 | qengho, urg, at least you didn't miss it... | 15:56 |
| qengho | seb128: For that bug, i backported a fix. https://codereview.chromium.org/23461032/ | 15:56 |
| seb128 | qengho, k, I was mostly curious, maybe it would make sense to add a comment in the upstream bug as well? | 15:57 |
| qengho | seb128: Makes sense. | 15:58 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:58 |
| qengho | seb128: De rien. | 15:58 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 15:58 |
| seb128 | qengho, is there a SRU/security upload scheduled for saucy (just wondering when/how that one is going to land) | 15:58 |
| qengho | I gave #security these last Thursday. | 15:59 |
| qengho | I suspect very soon should land. | 15:59 |
| seb128 | including the fix we are talking about? | 15:59 |
| qengho | Yes. | 15:59 |
| seb128 | excellent | 15:59 |
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| xnox | "<cyphermox> I wasn't going through LAX :)" - that's only your alibi at this point ;-) | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | qengho and i flew through LAX the day before that shooting | 16:20 |
| * qengho blames kenvandine. | 16:21 | |
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| seb128 | sil2100, cyphermox: can we get libdbusmenu 13.10 srued? | 16:35 |
| sil2100 | seb128: I can push that, yes - are all the changes in lp:libdbusmenu/13.10 good? | 16:43 |
| seb128 | sil2100, yes, https://code.launchpad.net/~dbusmenu-team/libdbusmenu/trunk.13.10 ... it's one commit (r462) | 16:44 |
| sil2100 | Aaah, 460 was directly pushed to distro | 16:45 |
| sil2100 | Ok | 16:45 |
| sil2100 | Let me spin cu2d | 16:45 |
| seb128 | sil2100, thanks | 16:47 |
| cyphermox | alright, so sil2100 took care of it | 16:55 |
| cyphermox | thanks! | 16:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1247904, let me know what you think | 17:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1247904 in apport (Ubuntu) "Reporting the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP value would be useful" [Low,New] | 17:23 |
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| sil2100 | seb128, cyphermox: libdbusmenu in saucy unapproved queue, if anything | 17:47 |
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