[17:54] hi there :) [17:57] hello! [18:00] Hello all [18:01] hello ara [18:02] I think there is only three of us for the meeting, but we should get started [18:02] let see how the bot works [18:02] [STARTMEETING] [18:02] mmm [18:02] didn't work [18:02] #startmeeting ? [18:02] Meeting started Mon Nov 4 18:03:10 2013 UTC. The chair is toddy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:02] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:03] :) [18:03] #endmeeting [18:03] Meeting ended Mon Nov 4 18:03:49 2013 UTC. [18:03] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-for-all/2013/ubuntu-for-all.2013-11-04-18.03.moin.txt [18:03] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-for-all/2013/ubuntu-for-all.2013-11-04-18.03.html [18:03] and now you, ara [18:03] cool! [18:03] #startmeeting [18:03] Meeting started Mon Nov 4 18:04:05 2013 UTC. The chair is ara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [18:03] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [18:03] Agenda: [18:03] Goals of the group. How we are going to decide on them. -- [ara] [18:03] Next meeting -- [ara] [18:03] IRC channel -- [ara] [18:03] Intertech panel? -- [ara] [18:04] mmm, I think I was the only one submitting topics :) [18:04] so, let's hope the any other business show something else [18:04] would we wait a minute? [18:04] sure [18:05] we are not that many people [18:05] if that's fine with toddy as well [18:05] maybe someone is still around [18:05] ok [18:10] OK; it is ten past, I think we can get started [18:10] #topic Goals of the group. How we are going to decide on them. [18:11] I think we need two things: [18:11] * The "BIG" goal for the group (why we exist) [18:11] * How we plan to accomplish that goal (the little steps towards that goal). [18:11] How we are going to define the "BIG" goal? Shall someone give it a try and propose it to the mailing list? [18:11] well, first of all maybe we should decide whether meetings are the best communication channel [18:11] it is difficult to make decision with only 3 people showing [18:11] what do you guys think? [18:12] I think that generally IRC works fine [18:13] For the goals we should use the mailinglist, i think [18:14] but do we agree that we need those two things? maybe we need to set up a wiki or something for people to put the ideas there [18:16] Yes I think that we need these things. A wikipage is good to collective some suggestions [18:17] toddy, do you want to give it a try? or do you prefer someone else to create the initial content (by content I mean, the needed sections, etc) [18:18] I can do this. But not today. [18:18] toddy, sure, no pressure :) [18:18] ok :) [18:18] toddy, thanks! [18:19] #action toddy to create a basic wiki page as a placeholder for people to collaborate on the BIG goal and how to get there and share it in the mailing list when done (no deadline) [18:19] ACTION: toddy to create a basic wiki page as a placeholder for people to collaborate on the BIG goal and how to get there and share it in the mailing list when done (no deadline) [18:20] OK, anything else on this topic? [18:21] OK, moving on [18:21] #topic Next meeting -- [ara] [18:21] OK, I was going to propose this same hour, every other week, or monthly, but it seems that it may not work so well [18:23] maybe. but it was the best date (doodle) [18:23] yes, but, again, I don't think we are enough people to decide [18:23] Let's defer it [18:24] ok [18:24] #topic IRC channel -- [ara] [18:25] I wanted to discuss the IRC channel [18:25] when I tried to join #ubuntu-lgbt, it redirected me to #ubuntu-for-all [18:25] we need a topic :) [18:25] hey koen_ [18:25] heya [18:25] sorry I'm late [18:25] hi koen_ [18:25] koen_, no worries [18:25] koen_, we are discussing the irc channel [18:26] when I tried to join #ubuntu-lgbt, it redirected me to #ubuntu-for-all [18:26] so, someone already created this link [18:26] if we think we need our own channel, I can try to discover who is in charce of #ubuntu-for-all [18:26] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuForAll [18:27] what do you guys think? [18:27] ara: is this channel logged? [18:28] not sure, let's see [18:28] the mail-list of those group is nearly dead: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-for-all/ [18:28] it is: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/11/04/%23ubuntu-for-all.html [18:29] ok [18:29] Deindre, what do you think? [18:30] I think we should set a unique brand: Ubuntu for all sounds very good to me, it's very inclusive [18:31] ubuntu-for-all is okay for me. [18:31] do you want to use LGBT list for mailing list and Ubuntu for all as IRC channel? [18:32] I think it could be confusing, but it seems useless open a new channel [18:32] I guess both should be the same, right? [18:32] I would prefer to keep ubuntu-lgbt for both, but that's just a personal preference [18:32] I think we should use the same name for both [18:32] that is not optimal if it has not the same name [18:33] I think we could vote on ML which name is more suitable for the most of us [18:34] sounds good [18:34] yes [18:34] OK, I will send the options to the mailing list [18:34] thank you ara [18:35] #action ara to send a poll to the ML on whether to use ubuntu-lgtb (both ML and IRC channel) or ubuntu-for-allç [18:35] ACTION: ara to send a poll to the ML on whether to use ubuntu-lgtb (both ML and IRC channel) or ubuntu-for-allç [18:35] OK, let's move on [18:35] #topic Intertech [18:35] through a friend, I found this panel: http://www.intertechlgbt.com [18:36] it is a bit UK centric, but I was wondering whether we should contact them to let them know we are around, in case we can collaborate or learn from them [18:36] Moreover I'm a close friend of one of the most important LGBT activist in Italy. I would like to ask her tips to how to build our community [18:36] what's your take on it? [18:39] sounds good to me, any help is always welcome [18:40] definitely [18:40] yes [18:41] what about intertech? do you think it could be helpful? [18:41] could we get any help from someone from the Ubuntu community/Canonical as well? [18:42] it seems that building a worldwide digital network is a whole different story from setting up a national & offline one [18:42] I think intertech could be really useful [18:42] agree [18:43] yes, I agree, too. Maybe we can learn something from the intertechs. [18:43] btw, is this meeting logged (live) anywhere? [18:44] koen_, once finished, it will have a link [18:45] OK, I will contact intertech and see what they are about [18:45] ah, thanks ara [18:46] and I can contact Jono's team as well if needed/wanted [18:47] Anything else on this topic? [18:48] OK [18:48] #topic Any Other business [18:49] Anything else we should be discussing today? [18:49] I'm fine :) [18:49] I have nothing. [18:49] me neither [18:49] Ok, let's wrap up, then [18:49] #endmeeting [18:49] Meeting ended Mon Nov 4 18:50:05 2013 UTC. [18:49] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-for-all/2013/ubuntu-for-all.2013-11-04-18.04.moin.txt [18:49] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-for-all/2013/ubuntu-for-all.2013-11-04-18.04.html [18:50] thanks to all [18:50] yes, thanks [18:50] thanks!