[00:45] <cmaloney> greg-g: I wasn't aware of anything that I own that'll play FLAC via disc
[00:46] <cmaloney> Though I think there are some higher-end devices that will
[00:49] <cmaloney> http://xiph.org/flac/links.html
[00:51] <cmaloney> Honestly most of the FLAC compatible devices don't support discs or are "network players"
[00:51] <cmaloney> http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-n500_w/
[00:52] <cmaloney> Here you go: single CD Yamaha device. MSRP: $800
[00:57] <jrwren> can buy a USB cdrom drive and plug into an rpi for under $100
[00:57] <cmaloney> RPI's DAC is a piece of shit
[00:57] <cmaloney> you'd need an external one
[00:58] <cmaloney> http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/hifi-components/cd-players/cd-s3000_u/?mode=model
[00:58] <cmaloney> Doesnt' support FLAC, but at this price I don't think you'd be able to afford much else.
[00:59] <jrwren> is it?
[00:59] <jrwren> sad ot hear that.
[01:00] <jrwren> oh right...i've only listened to the digital audio coming out the hdmi :(
[01:00] <cmaloney> yeah, it's one of the compromises
[01:00] <jrwren> lame DACs take me back :]
[01:00] <jrwren> i called a buddy out on a bad DAC in a mobo that he had in his media server.
[01:01] <cmaloney> Well, and that's the thing that pisses me off about the "analog snobs" vs. CDs
[01:02] <cmaloney> I can get better and more consistent sound out of digital then you ever could out of analog
[01:03] <cmaloney> and if "analog snobs" spent as much on CD players / DACs and found CD albums that weren't direct ports of shoddy LP masters then there would be no contest.
[01:03] <jrwren> truth!
[01:03] <cmaloney> but I digress
[01:05] <cmaloney> I just laugh
[01:05] <cmaloney> And quietly download the FLAC file and buy the CD album
[01:52] <flipsidecreation> hello
[01:53] <cmaloney> Hello there
[01:53] <waldo323> my phone seems to think its time for a meeting soon :-P
[01:53] <cmaloney> We'll be starting the meeting in about 5 minutes
[01:53] <waldo323> due to the time change we get to start a couple minutes early? yay
[01:54] <cmaloney> Smartarse. :)
[01:56] <waldo323> sorry it is contagious...we are watching dvr'd craig ferguson
[02:00] <cmaloney> I <3 Craig Ferguson
[02:00] <cmaloney> OK, let's get started
[02:01] <cmaloney> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/521/detail/
[02:01] <cmaloney> That's the agenda
[02:02] <cmaloney> First order of business: Verification
[02:02] <cmaloney> We've been approached after our recent Approval expiration to come back into the verified loco fold
[02:03] <cmaloney> I told them we're an older loco and most of our folks have moved on to other projects, but they seemed to think we could still make verification
[02:03] <cmaloney> So with that in mind..
[02:03] <waldo323> i got an email about that i think
[02:03] <cmaloney> There's an application that we'll need to fill out and submit for verification
[02:04] <cmaloney> I can fill that out and submit it if there are no objections
[02:04] <cmaloney> I don't think it really gets us much of anything, but I think they want to encourage more groups to remain verified
[02:05] <cmaloney> And by extension active and vibrant and what-not.
[02:05] <cmaloney> So if there's no qualms about verification I'll start the paperwork.
[02:05] <cmaloney> Any questions?
[02:05] <waldo323> sounds good to me
[02:07] <cmaloney> Anyone else?
[02:09] <cmaloney> OK. Anything else we should cover?
[02:11] <waldo323> penguicon is open for talks
[02:11] <cmaloney> OK. Tell us more?
[02:12] <waldo323> http://2014.penguicon.org/get-involved/#presenting
[02:12] <gamerchick02> i've no issue about the verification.
[02:12] <gamerchick02> sorry i wandered off
[02:13] <waldo323> Kevin O'Brien and I and perhaps krunal are working on the tech track
[02:13] <waldo323> we would like to have a central theme on privacy and security but will certainly accept talks in other areas of computing and tech
[02:14] <cmaloney> waldo323: Maybe we could post this on the mailing list?
[02:14] <cmaloney> Ot
[02:14] <cmaloney> It'd be nice to have some of these talks nailed down sooner than later. :)
[02:15] <waldo323> we will, kevin has a draft of a call for talks so we'll hopefully have something out soon
[02:15] <cmaloney> Awesomesauce
[02:19] <flipsidecreation> Hello, I am planning on going to Penguincon, it will be my first one.  I seen some videos and talked to some people, sounds like a great time.
[02:19] <cmaloney> It is. It's a lot of fun
[02:21] <flipsidecreation> looks like it. :)
[02:21] <cmaloney> OK, unless there's anything else I think we can call this meeting adjourned.
[02:23] <waldo323> thanks for hosting :)
[02:23] <cmaloney> Thank you all for coming!
[02:39] <waldo323> it is a great day for america, have a good night
[13:55] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:55] <rick_h_> morning
[14:09] <cmaloney> Apparently JoDee is now on Kickstarter
[14:09] <cmaloney> Be afraid. Be very afraid.
[14:09] <brousch> What'd she kickstart?
[14:10] <rick_h_> lol
[14:10] <cmaloney> The Ladies of Science thing she shared on G+
[18:42] <cmaloney> https://twitter.com/creativecommons/status/397432611015884801
[18:43] <greg-g> cmaloney: nice!
[18:46] <cmaloney> Feel like an idiot that I didn't look at the FB post before responding. :)
[18:46] <cmaloney> Ah well
[18:48] <greg-g> yeah, was going to say ;)
[18:56] <cmaloney> http://decafbad.net/2013/11/04/one-week-of-living-mostly-creative-commons-follow-along-at-home/
[19:10] <greg-g> jcastro: you in HK this week?
[19:10] <jcastro> no unfortunately
[19:11] <greg-g> Ryan Lane is
[19:11] <greg-g> if you want to tell people to bum rush him
[19:11] <jcastro> we have people there
[19:11] <rick_h_> yea, smoser is there I think
[19:15] <rick_h_> jcastro: so your bundle works with the deployer. I can't debug it in the gui atm. There's still an issue with the quickstart. So I'll file a card with the bundle and some info. It's definitely not you though since the deployer takes it.
[19:15] <jcastro> ta
[19:15] <jcastro> thanks for looking into it
[19:17] <rick_h_> well not just me fighting npm today yay https://twitter.com/search?q=npm
[19:18] <jcastro> well, when you deploy dependent on a 3rd party ... it happens
[19:18] <jcastro> the best is when github is down and people are like "I can'
[19:18] <jcastro> t get any work done!"
[19:18] <jcastro> it's like dude, _distributed_ version control
[19:18] <greg-g> I laugh at those people
[19:18] <rick_h_> well, this is why amazon is brilliant. Check out their home page today http://www.amazon.com/
[19:19] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, though to be fair. When launchpad is down you can't land branches, look up issues, etc.
[19:19] <greg-g> yeah, same here with gerrit
[19:19] <rick_h_> jcastro: so yes, you can commit and work on your current work, but if you fetch other branches, need to trigger CI with a pull request, etc you're fubar. Lot more than git commit out there
[19:19] <jcastro> rick_h_, I am saying if your job depends on something you don't host that's a bad place to be
[19:19] <rick_h_> right, everyone has the central place
[19:19] <jcastro> this is why our IS team is so picky with charms
[19:20] <rick_h_> meh
[19:20] <greg-g> but at least I can phyiscally kick the person who should kick gerrit ;)
[19:20] <rick_h_> jcastro: you bought a laptop from someone :P
[19:20] <jcastro> things needs to deploy from internal resources so when an external thing goes down we're not sitting around sword fighting
[19:20] <greg-g> heh, nice
[19:20] <cmaloney> sword fighting.
[19:20] <greg-g> "compiling" joke
[19:20] <jcastro> "compiling!"
[19:20] <rick_h_> now right, that's what annoys me. I've fought to try to get us to setup npm in full offline mode but "well just setup a cache" won out.
[19:20] <jcastro> rick_h_, yeah but today is what you needed to win that fight!
[19:21] <rick_h_> though it took me two years to make bookie use a download-cache offline
[19:21] <cmaloney> Yep, because caches are great when you haven't accessed a resource before
[19:21] <cmaloney> Oh wait, that's backwards.
[19:21] <rick_h_> this is why I had 30GB of disk filled with a pypi miffor
[19:21] <cmaloney> just like relying on caches.
[19:21] <jcastro> it's trivial to update caches regularly
[19:21] <jcastro> cron job, done
[19:22] <cmaloney> jcastro: so is rsync. ;)
[19:22] <jcastro> sure, whatever floats your boat
[19:51] <rick_h_> ooh, lastpass 3 is out and it's less fugly!
[20:15] <PainBank> anyone around here doing some Qt develoment? or in the detroit area?
[20:16] <cmaloney> I haven't touched Qt in a long time
[20:16] <cmaloney> and even then it was mostly "hello world"
[20:17] <jrwren> cmaloney: have a favorite Ravel performance recording?
[20:17] <cmaloney> Not really. I can't get past another re-tread of "Bolero"
[20:17] <cmaloney> Which is a pity because Ravel isn't bad.
[20:18] <jrwren> i heard a great performance of a Ravel song at Umich Halloween Concert
[20:18] <jrwren> i thought i'd pick up something
[20:19] <cmaloney> There's two recordings that I have. One is "French Favourites" which has two tracks of Ravel (along with Milhaud and Debussy) but the second track is fucking Bolero
[20:19] <cmaloney> But it's the DSO with Jaarvi, so it's awesome. :)
[20:19] <cmaloney> The second recording is Ravel's "Daphnis Et Chloe"
[20:20] <cmaloney> it's conducted by Charles Munch and the Boston Symphony Orchestra
[20:20] <cmaloney> It's a Living Stereo Release and should be pretty easy to pick up locally at Barnes and Noble.
[20:20] <cmaloney> The others that I have are a best-of that JoDee has that's "meh"
[20:21] <jrwren> cool
[20:21] <cmaloney> And Martha Agerich's Solo Piano which has some of his piano works.
[20:21] <cmaloney> But generally speaking I don't go out of my way for Ravel.
[20:22] <PainBank> cmaloney: thanks
[20:22] <cmaloney> NP
[20:23] <cmaloney> jrwren: I think there's a separate disc of Martha Agerich playing Ravel, but honestly I love all of her playing enough to recommend just getting the solo works 1 collection
[20:23] <cmaloney> She's a rock star.
[20:24] <cmaloney> http://www.amazon.com/Martha-Argerich-Collection-Solo-Recordings/dp/B001BWQVSG
[20:27] <cmaloney> Allegedly Horowitz never recorded any Ravel.
[20:27] <cmaloney> http://www.gramophone.co.uk/features/focus/vladimir-horowitz-remembered-%E2%80%93-on-his-birthday
[22:55] <shakes808> Hello cmaloney, it has been awhile.
[22:55] <shakes808> How are you doing?