[05:51] morning all [06:22] o/ morning oom Kilos [06:22] morning nuvolari_ Private_User === nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [06:23] gaan dit goed nuvolari_ ? [06:23] hoekom die stert [06:23] dit gaan goed dankie en met oom? [06:23] nee ek weet nie oom [06:23] goed dankie [06:23] :P [06:24] Private_User, theres something i wanted to tell you, but forgotten atm , will try remember [06:25] ek het in die nag kubuntu 13.10 instaleer [06:25] baie vinnig. 12m install to reboot [06:25] maar hulle maak goed meer ingewikkeled met elke release [06:28] something to do with restricted and restricted-addons [06:28] im not sure if lubuntu has them or not [06:31] yes it does [06:32] Private_User, do sudo aptitude install lubuntu-restricted-extras lubuntu-restricted-addons [06:33] you might need them for design work [06:43] hi Vince-0 Resu_Etavirp [06:43] haha [06:49] Morning everyone [06:49] hi mazal [06:50] Does anybody know if wget will donwload a file again if it already exist ? [06:51] maybe if its not in the same place [06:51] but it should warn you anyway [06:52] you can rename the old one if its in /home [06:52] Same place , for example I add a wget script to cron , it downloads , I forget to remove it. Will it download the next day again ? [06:52] might offer to overwrite [06:52] Or will it see the same file is there already and just stop [06:52] havent got there yet [06:53] Remember this is via cron , so user not present to give inputs [06:53] why you wanna get another of the same files? [06:53] you gotta try it first then directly and see what happens [06:53] no I'm still battling with scheduled downloading. Seems Ubuntu doesn't have a proper download manager [06:54] Everything I tried so far either doesn't have scheduling , or the one that have just doesn't work at all [06:54] hmm... i looked at that the other day [06:54] Maaz, google downloadmanager for 12.04 [06:54] Kilos: "Download manager for Ubuntu 12.04 and Google Chrome - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/315056/download-manager-for-ubuntu-12-04-and-google-chrome :: "12.04 - What is the best downloading program for ubuntu? - Ask ..." http://askubuntu.com/questions/180397/what-is-the-best-downloading-program-for-ubuntu :: "Install uGet Download Manager 1.10.3 in [06:54] Ubuntu 12.10/12.04 and ..." http://www.tecmint.com/install-uget-download-manager-1-10-3-in-ub… [06:54] At this stage I actually do my scheduled downloads with my Win 7 partition as Ubuntu doesn't have a proper app for it [06:55] ouch [06:55] Best ones so far is downthemall ( firefox add-on ) and fatrat , but neither can schedule [06:56] just look in /home if you have that file already [06:56] and just rename it [06:56] So looks like the long time consuming way of a script with bunch of wget command for every file is the only way [06:57] also look at wget -c that might see the file is already there and add any extras [06:58] morning superfly [07:00] hi Kilos [07:06] mazal, you gotta give wget the direct link to the file you want to get. [07:07] G'day [07:07] so go to the site and get to the file you want then right click copy link or something and thats the link you give wget [07:09] hope that helps you [07:15] good mornings [07:15] oh and hi Kilos [07:23] ohi inetpro [07:24] inetpro, kubuntu 13.10 is very lekker but more involved to get 3g working [07:24] installs super fast [07:37] hi gerritfromsa welcome to ubuntu-za [07:37] Kilos, cheers [07:38] 1st time a join this one , whats the latest discussion ? [07:38] we help new peeps here [07:38] praat ook die taal [07:39] pragtag ! [07:39] is jy op ubuntu? [07:40] ons het ook n afrikaans kanaal #ubuntu-afr [07:40] eientlik Fedora/Centos user maar Linux is Linux ... [07:40] ja ons gebruik als en help waar ons kan [07:41] daar is ouens hier op mint en slitaz en ander snaakse goed [07:41] Mint is great [07:41] centos is harde werk [07:42] Scripts help baie ... [07:42] haha so jy is een van die slimmes [07:42] Hokaai [07:43] jy moet ons kom help hier. ek glo nie hier is n fedora gebruiker nie [07:44] verskille is maar klein ... [07:49] hi bduk1 [08:00] wbb gonna try sort modem [08:02] Good morning all [08:22] morning [09:08] good morning all [09:08] hi bduk1, gerritfromsa [09:09] charl_, morning [09:12] charl_, where from? [09:23] gerritfromsa: where what from? [09:23] looks like sql - select * from some_table where some_field = 1 [09:26] you [09:41] morning peeps [09:41] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:41] how's it going [09:42] all good this side, you? [09:52] i'm doing great thanks [09:54] hi maiatoday [09:57] hi charl_ [10:01] how's it going [10:17] back [11:22] inetpro, het jy al begin daai goed spyt? [11:22] tribulus terrestris [11:24] Kilos: what is that? [11:24] dubbeltjies [11:45] * nlsthzn hates dubbeltjies... [11:45] so many punchers when I was using a bike :p [11:55] s/spyt/spuit [11:58] lol [11:58] terrible things [11:58] arent you thinking of duiwel dorings [11:58] those three point things [12:00] anyone using utorrent from command line? [12:00] got some night owl bandwidth to kill [12:00] nlsthzn, say hi the new guy [12:00] lol [12:01] i downloaded an iso and upgraded it with mine last 2 nights [12:01] painful the late nights thought [12:02] though [12:02] hi ThatGraemeGuy [12:05] that why I want to crontab it [12:06] eztv.it for all the latest TV shows [12:09] lol [12:09] mazal, heres another crontab guy [12:10] I need a wget one :P [12:11] Have 2 wget problems [12:11] yes [12:11] wget is your friend [12:11] Struggling with it [12:12] First question gerritfromsa is just some info needed , haven't tested it yet : [12:12] what do you want to do? [12:12] I create a scrypt with 3 wget commands for 3 different files ok [12:12] I schedule that scrypt with cron [12:13] Now my question , let's say wget finishes those downloads , and I forget to remove scrypt from cron [12:13] Will it dl the files next day again ? Or will it see them there and just skip the commands and end ? [12:14] Basically using it as a scheduled download manager [12:15] yawn.. [12:15] hate being on leave I never wake up [12:15] until it is time for bed [12:16] hehe [12:17] you can use a switch in wget to ignore files you already have ... wait [12:17] just cheking the man page [12:18] mazal, OK if you add the -N switch it will not download the file again unless it's newer [12:19] Must be capital letter yes ? [12:19] mazal, so instead of wget http://URL/file use wget -N http://URL/file [12:20] mazal, Yes capital N and I would also add the -q switch when used in a cron for no output or 'quite' mode [12:20] mazal, wget -N -q http://URL/file [12:20] So for example , the following one will both continue if not finished as well as do nothing if it's already finished : ? [12:20] wget -cN --tries=0 --progress=bar -O /home/mazal/ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso http://ftp.is.co.za/linux/distributions/ubuntu/releases/precise/ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso [12:20] gerritfromsa, welcome to ubuntu-za [12:21] at least you understand man pages [12:22] i dont understand greek [12:22] watch out for combining switches unless they are specified to be used along one another , because some combination does something else [12:22] Yeah the man page for that switch just says " Turn on timestamping ". I would never figure that means " Don't download unless newer " [12:24] Remember that wget is actually a HTTP_GET request and in the same way your browser will include an "If not modified" in the TCP header when you surf a webpage [12:24] in the same way you add that to the wget request [12:24] Thank you gerritfromsa [12:25] Now my second one I been struggling for a while , have it on the mailing list as well [12:25] I want to download just 1 sub folder from a web site. [12:25] also remember that you can specify the month and day n cron so that it will only run once this year ... [12:26] with wget -R you can actually rip of the entire page [12:26] * nlsthzn is having a hard time with vbox >.< ... just can't seem to get the kernel module to work (not ubuntu, LMDE)... grrrr [12:26] That's not an option as sometimes the download don't finish in time and need to be continued the next day [12:26] UNLESS the web master has put a ROBOTS.txt fiel in his/her root folder [12:26] and sometimes it will be finished. All depends on the day and how many files I add [12:26] Ok , now that second question [12:27] I have tried the following 3 command , all without success : [12:27] wget -r my.example.com/folder [12:27] wget -rnH my.example.com/folder [12:27] wget -nh my.example.com/folder [12:28] In the first two cases it keeps downloading the whole site and in the 3rd case only 1 file [12:28] Sorry that 3rd one is also a caital H [12:28] capital even [12:28] OK the last makes sence - most likely the index.* file [12:29] yep [12:29] try this quickly wget -r my.example.com.folder/* [12:29] k [12:30] not found error [12:30] ubuntu ? [12:31] http://guides.gamepressure.com/resistance3/* [12:31] Without the star it works , but downloads whole site [12:31] with start I get 404 not found [12:31] both works with centos , OK hang in there we'll find a way [12:39] mazal, OK try this #wget -nh --cut-dirs=1 my.example.com/folder [12:39] mazal, this stop at 1 directory deep [12:41] Does nothing , only creates the subfolder name and downloads nothing [12:42] And it creates the folder name in an html file ? [12:42] try =2 [12:42] only downloads index.html [12:45] Seems I will have to dl the whole site and delete afterwards what I don't want lol [12:46] i'm on it [12:47] Time to go for me , thanx for the help gerritfromsa , can you tell maaz to tell me if you got the right combo please [12:48] Maaz, wil do [12:48] gerritfromsa: Huh? [12:48] Maaz, check msg from mazal [12:48] gerritfromsa: Huh? [12:48] Like in so : [12:48] Maaz tell mazal " whatever " [12:48] mazal: Got it, I'll tell mazal on freenode [12:49] . [12:49] mazal: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell mazal " whatever "" 22 seconds ago [12:49] gerritfromsa, you type in Maaz tell nick on freenode "message" [12:49] oh my [12:50] Cheers everyone , enjoy your evening [12:50] Bye oom [12:50] Bye all [12:57] so anyone here checked out makulu linux yet? [12:58] sounds makulukulu [13:02] don't know about that but thus far there seems to much emphasis on cosmetics and not enough on anything else :/ [13:03] Maaz, you can tell your connection there isn't a way to just get 1 folder with wget but you can specify that it only goes 1 folder deep [13:03] gerritfromsa: I already know stuff about you [13:03] Maaz, thats the wonder of the internet my friend [13:03] gerritfromsa: *blink* [13:04] Maaz, tell mazal you can also set wget to ignore certain file types - that will also save him downloading unwanted files [13:04] gerritfromsa: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode [13:05] * nlsthzn sees some confusion [13:10] you mean like your name and stuff Mr.Snyman [13:10] and you friend Mr.Sharpe [13:11] ? [13:51] sigh power went off and when returned i thought lets try new kde but couldnt get here because the keyboard gave a pound sign instead of a hash [13:51] what a battle to find id chosen english uk instead of us [13:52] what a twit [13:52] now to configure konversation from scratch [13:53] hate it when that happens [13:55] crossover being so annoying... every now and again I can't launch it from the menu or synapse etc... it just goes missing and then I install again and it carries on where it was :/ [13:57] eish nlsthznyou dont often struggle [13:57] thats my domain [13:57] eish no space after tab complete [13:57] sigh [13:59] im too old for this [13:59] i go fetch sheep, them i can kick if they dont listen [13:59] :0 [13:59] :0 [13:59] :) [13:59] haha [14:00] at least everything installed with crossover is still there and working... if I had to re-install all that I would go nuts [14:05] hiya maiatodayyou ok girl? [14:05] ai! [14:12] nlsthzn: ha thats fixed [14:13] hiya maiatoday [14:13] hi Kilos [14:13] you ok girl? [14:13] still busy all the time [14:13] hehe always Kilos, it never stops [14:13] but I like it like that [14:14] ya but we miss you man [14:14] girl [14:14] I can't do Monday evenings anymore, which is a sad thing. But I am around [14:15] what is a good day for you? [14:15] ill start a petition and go on strike [14:16] charl_: ping [14:18] Not Mondays or Thursdays, but I don't want everybody to shift just because of me. [14:26] i do [14:26] i miss you [14:29] oh gerritfromsa we have community meetings here once a month, everyone welcome [14:32] whereat ? [14:34] here [14:34] what irc client do you use? [14:34] irssi i spose [14:35] without a topic panel [14:36] xchat ;) not that backward [14:42] oh my thats lekker [14:42] i love xchat and second is conversation [14:42] konversation [14:43] kde rules [14:43] you must try the new kubuntu [14:43] installed here in 12 minutes [14:43] ond this pc is old [14:45] but they hid the workspace switcher and now gotta use ctrl+F1-10 [14:52] Kilos, when is the meeting ? [14:53] next one on the 25th [14:53] time? [14:53] dont you see it in the topic at the top? [14:53] 20.30 [14:53] links to our mailing list andagenda for the meet and so on [14:54] got it ... saw the topic ... I'll try be there [14:54] cool [14:54] if you got any ideas to discuss you can add to the agenda [14:54] we need new ideas [15:02] Squirm: you on holiday yet? [15:13] meh, anyone with ontology/openrdf knowledge around? [15:13] pleeeze [15:27] Kilos: i'm back [15:28] ohi what did they do with the workspace switcher in 13.10 kde [15:28] gerritfromsa: using irssi is backward according to you? [15:28] i dont like to remember ctrl+F1-10 [15:28] haha [15:29] Kilos: coming to think of it, haven't used it long enough to bother checking [15:29] kde on ubuntu 13.10 i mean [15:29] hi charl_ [15:29] i installed it inside a VM a week or two ago and was just playing with it for a while [15:29] couple of changes but very fast [15:29] hi Kilos [15:29] hi psyatw :) [15:29] how's it going [15:29] :) [15:29] hi psyatw [15:29] doing well [15:29] still stuck in Poland [15:30] ah [15:30] well here it's raining right now [15:30] and you? [15:30] big surprise lol [15:30] haha [15:30] no i'm doing really well actually [15:30] be glad it´s not the UK [15:30] exciting times for me [15:30] oh [15:30] tell me more [15:30] charl_, no harm intended [15:30] yeah indeed the uk people never even see the sunlight [15:30] gerritfromsa: right... right... [15:30] too late now :P [15:30] hoi gerritfromsa [15:30] haha [15:31] Loving AndoiIRC on my Galaxy Note ... [15:31] charl_: be nice to our new member [15:31] oh gerritfromsa i tried the android pc iso but coundnt get it to work [15:32] installed but then hung [15:32] I got it running on a VM but then sat back and I was like - what the hell ? [15:32] my sis has a tablet thing and always asking for help [15:33] If you have touch it's better .. [15:33] isnt it the same as the mobile version [15:33] na pc old [15:33] charl_: find the workspace switcher man [15:33] I got a chrome book and it was the same thing ... [15:33] hard work using kboard [15:34] I have a saying : If you can't open it -it's not yours [15:34] them tablets are horrible imo [15:34] and I like to fiddle ... [15:34] thats lekker another fiddler [15:35] Hacked my chromebook to run Linux ... cheapest laptop EVER [15:35] lol [15:35] Was $199 and I bought it there .. so no import duties etc etc [15:35] im a hardware fiddler [15:35] break things often [15:36] Raspberry PI is the no1 thing to fiddle with ... [15:37] Only R449 incl VAT from pifactory.co.za [15:38] Now there's an idea for the Nov 25th meeting ! [15:39] Building a video server with a Pi ... so relevant to South Africa ... [15:40] Pi and a few usb cams linux running motion and voila ! [15:41] there must be a project page for this , let me google ... [15:42] * gerritfromsa is back (gone 00:23:37) [15:43] hmm... [15:43] quite a few of the guys have them [15:44] found a link but they're using vnc , can do better with apache or mini-httpd .... [15:44] http://pingbin.com/2012/12/raspberry-pi-web-cam-server-motion/ [15:45] but its way to easy - will only take 5 minutes ... [15:47] would be nice if you combine asterisk so that it calls you when there's movement in your yard ! [15:49] Kilos: sorry i don't have it here right now... at home atm and my laptop isn't upgraded yet [15:49] np charl_ [15:49] gerritfromsa: you know asterisk? [15:50] one of the guys is battling with the one he has to keep going [15:50] very well yes [15:50] cool when magespawn gets here tell him [15:50] he does it at a game ranch [15:50] game park [15:53] magespawn - from PE right ? [15:53] seen him on #asterisk [15:54] * gerritfromsa is away: Taking a walk outside ... [15:58] hluhluwe [16:01] * gerritfromsa is back (gone 00:06:59) [16:06] hehe [16:06] can one get one of those google sites and sell stuff from there [16:22] * gerritfromsa is away: Taking a walk outside ... [16:25] haha [16:26] hi Mezenir [16:57] hmm... [17:04] hey kilos [17:04] hows it going ? [17:04] good ty and you? [17:04] good thanks [17:37] yo Snowy2 [17:38] wb nlsthzn [17:38] thanks [17:38] :) [18:12] good evening [18:12] Kilos: sorry for not getting back to you this morn [18:12] was another tough day [18:13] np inetpro [18:13] im playing on 13.10 kde [18:14] Kilos: well done! [18:15] but they hid the workspace switcher [18:15] * inetpro will wait for 14.04 [18:15] and setting up 3g is an art [18:15] Kilos: nee man [18:15] ya man [18:15] what you mean? [18:16] i dont know why they moving away from stuff that works [18:16] its not all in nm [18:16] what you mean with workspace switcher? [18:17] you gotta go settings then open something and move mobile stuffs to the right block and then make it work in there and then only connect [18:17] and no auto connect button anymore [18:17] grrrrr [18:18] its getting like modern cars. you cant fix it yourself [18:18] need a special computer to tell you whats wrong [18:18] Kilos: what do you mean with workspace switcher? [18:18] those little black blocks next to the launcher [18:19] that hidden now [18:19] gotta ctrl=F1 and more [18:19] you mean the pager? [18:19] ctrl+F1-10 here [18:20] eish is it called a pager now [18:20] remember this is kubuntu [18:20] it's never been called the workspace something meggafter [18:20] but it installs super fast [18:21] 15 mins on single core p4 and 12 mins on here [18:21] what hot keys did you used to use? [18:21] on 12.04 kde there are them little black blocks on the left on the bottom panel [18:21] i used them before [18:22] all keys cool here [18:22] no hot keys i type to slow [18:23] Kilos: here's an old page talking about the Desktop Pager: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s02.html [18:23] anyway im working through things [18:23]