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wilee-nileeI assume more workspaces is more desktops here00:00
sedekifinally00:00
wilee-nileecool00:00
netm_Anybody know how to nest controllers intol folders?00:03
sybariteni have a packard bell USB drive thats attached. Its supposed to be 250 gb but im starting to wonder if the actual drive inside is a 120gb.  How do i determine physical drive size?00:04
sybaritenPreferable human readable format00:04
wilee-nileesybariten, gparted, disk app00:05
wilee-nileedisks*00:05
sybaritenwilee-nilee: ok...00:06
sybaritenthanks00:06
wilee-nileeno prob00:08
Serushi00:08
SerusI'm on a UEFI laptop trying to get grub to boot00:08
bag-manPing00:09
wilee-nileepong00:09
Seruscan somebody help me with boot-repair disk?00:09
wilee-nileeSerus, You have ubuntu installed and trying to get a grub prompt?00:09
Serusnot, ubuntu, but linux mint00:10
Serusbut yes00:10
SerusI'm trying to get the grub prompt yes00:10
wilee-nileeSerus, I would use the ubuntu forums for two reasons, 1 people focused on this area 2 mint is not supported here.00:11
lightntangyhi all00:11
Serusthe browser in boot-repair-disk doesn't work00:11
mrrcphi00:11
wilee-nileeSerus, Make a therad with uefi i it and post the bootinfo summary.00:11
wilee-nilees/thread/in00:12
lightntangydoes anyone know how to fix kernal panic?00:12
Omen_20Is it possible to have the Dash search files on other partitions? I have the partition mounted but nothing is coming up from it.00:12
Ari-Yang!kernelpanic00:12
Ari-Yang!panic00:12
Ari-Yang:X00:12
fishduckhello dire meatbags. Just installed ubuntu, and to my great surprise I've got an 'apache2' server running. Now, what is going on?00:12
wilee-nileelightntangy, Is it every time?00:13
fishduckalso, what's apache2?00:13
lightntangyit is everytime00:13
wilee-nileelightntangy, Has it always?00:13
lightntangyit has since last night00:13
lightntangyfresh install on a new machine00:14
wilee-nileelightntangy, Fixing it I would not know, any background leading to this? Is this a kernel update?00:14
lightntangyno, its a newly built machine00:14
Squigglehi00:14
lightntangyhas never had an os on it00:15
lightntangykernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on  unknown block(0,0)00:15
lightntangythat is the specific error00:15
wilee-nileelightntangy, This a uefi chip?00:15
lightntangyit is00:15
Omen_20I don't know about anyone else, but Ubuntu's dash search is incredibly slow for me. It just sits there and spins for almost all queries.00:16
wilee-nileelightntangy, Ah, oh boy what fun, hehe, not really the most known subject here, but that info will help.00:16
lightntangyha, thanks00:16
sanjaysir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.1000:16
Omen_20I have a feeling once I install 8.1 next week I'll never look back at Ubuntu's Dash and just run GNOME 3.1000:16
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wilee-nileeOmen_20, If you load a ppa it is basically not supported here, just info.00:17
wilee-nileeOmen_20, use the stock gnome-shell I do I like it.00:18
sanjaysir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10  even i can't install updates of ubuntu13.04 pls help me00:19
wilee-nileesanjay, YOu have software sources set to all jupdates and have removed the 3rd part repos and if ppa's with ppa-purge?00:19
wilee-nileeupdates*00:19
Squiggleo.o00:19
Omen_20I've also got a bug where I can only move windows to horizontal workspaces when using the hotkeys. So if I want to move one up or down, I have to drag and drop.00:19
wilee-nileesanjay, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.00:20
fishduckwhy is an apache server running on my ubuntu installation?00:21
wilee-nileeOmen_20, You can tweak compiz till it's broken and reset it.00:22
sybaritenfishduck: what kind of answer do you expect....?00:23
fishducksybariten: "it's there by default" ?00:24
packeteeris the saucy sources.list borken? I've just installed but updating is failing00:25
fishducksybariten: well, did you have any goal with your weird attitude or did you just want to throw that out for no reason at all?00:25
wilee-nileepacketeer, Can you do it from the cli and pastebin it, maybe change the repo from software sources, not broken no.00:26
Squigglehow do you fix the /usr/bin/mrtg00:27
Squiggle:/00:27
Squigglenow it won't work00:27
Squiggleafter removing and installing00:27
packeteerwilee-nilee: i am using command line. keep getting 404's. tried a few different mirrors00:27
packeteergonna recreate my sources.list and try again00:27
sybariteni just didnt know what you were looking for in terms of answer. Ofcourse its running by default, if you discovered that its... running by default. Maybe you wanted to know something about the philosophy of the ubuntu creators in terms of preinstalled services. F__k if i know....00:27
wilee-nileeSquiggle, Whats is /mrtg?00:28
SquiggleMulti Router Traffic Grapher00:28
Squiggleit's like cacti00:28
Squigglebut this one is uncool00:28
wilee-nileepacketeer, Is it showing errors at the end?00:28
wilee-nileeoh my uncool, heaven forbid, heh00:29
Squiggleheh00:29
Squiggleso00:30
Squigglenow crontab does nothing00:30
wilee-nileepacketeer, Here is a nice site for that. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/00:31
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packeteerthanks, i was just on there00:33
TetracommHello.00:33
wilee-nileepacketeer, Are you modifying the connect with a proxy...etc?00:34
packeteerno00:34
TetracommI bought a laptop a few weeks ago which came with Windows 8. It is a Toshiba Satellite L875D, but Wubi doesn't work, apparently due to UEFI. Can I safely install Ubuntu without Wubi on this Windows 8 machine, despite UEFI?00:34
wilee-nilee!uefi | Tetracomm rumor is yes.00:35
ubottuTetracomm rumor is yes.: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI00:35
packeteerwilee-nilee: seems to work now that I've used that site to generate a new sources.list00:35
wilee-nileeTetracomm, here is another link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729500:35
spilukAny idea why lightdm screen seems to reload itself when I come to login screen after restarting/booting?00:35
wilee-nileepacketeer, Cool, that's always nice.00:36
lightntangywilee-nilee i worked out the issue with the kernal panic00:36
wilee-nileelightntangy, That is awesome, good job.00:36
lightntangythe cd was recognised at boot, but disposed of right after00:36
n008besides ~/.bashrc file is there anywher I can add bash functions and make them callable from the shell?00:36
lightntangyso you need to use a bootable usb to bypass00:37
n008not scripts, but functions.00:37
lightntangyas far as i know so far00:37
Tetracommwilee-nilee: Thank you. I will try now.00:37
lightntangythanks for the help00:37
n008or perhaps make all functions in a script globally available ?00:37
packeteerthanks for the help wilee-nilee00:37
wilee-nileeno prob00:37
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spilukhey any idea how to use the "Add Event" menu in datetime-indicator?00:41
spilukwell nothing seems to happen when I click it00:42
bigbadbenSo I have this old project that when a button is pressed on my webpage it runs a script sudo /home/userName/myscript.sh  .  I am not prompted for a password because I edited out sudoers page no pass for only that command. Is this the most secure way to do this?00:44
wilee-nileeno lol00:45
wilee-nilee!sudo00:45
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo00:45
spiluk /facepalm00:46
guidovhello. just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a pc. hangs at a login screen, sometimes while the intro sound is played indefinitely until i reboot. strange thing is, if i boot into recovery mode and then choose "resume boot" it doesnt hang and i can use the system00:55
guidovhow can i find out what's causing this?00:56
marcos_boa noite preciso de ajuda com modem 3g  olivetti já encontrei na net algumas opções mas não sei como editar os arquivos00:56
genii!br | marcos_00:57
ubottumarcos_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.00:57
marcos_#ubuntu-br00:57
richringerHi, How can I see what is binding to port 23 and is there a way to disable it? i want to use it for my bbs instead.01:01
KingPinlsof -i :2301:02
richringerthanks..01:02
richringerstrange... nothing is bound to it...01:04
gimpygooHello all. Hope you guys are doing well tonight/today.01:14
gimpygooWhere ever you are : )01:14
deper29guidov: when it hangs, can you ctrl+alt+f1 into tty1?01:15
pseubodotis anyone else having breakage issues with sane after an upgrade to 13.10?01:16
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freemanjimcannot01:18
freemanjimsend01:18
freemanjimtest01:18
freemanjimcannot send to channel ubuntu01:18
wilee-nileeI disagree01:18
freemanjimyou saw my meg?01:19
freemanjimmessage?01:19
wilee-nileeyep01:19
freemanjimoh weird01:19
freemanjimok01:19
trippHi. I was wondering how i can get a weather applet indicator in my status bar? Using 13.10 I cant find an option. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?01:19
geniifreemanjim: Yes, we see what you type01:19
freemanjimthanks gents01:19
bigbadbenwilee-nilee, but if they can only not be prompt for a password when they run that whats it matter? It needs to be sudo because that script calls python scriptThatNeedsToBeRoot01:20
wilee-nileebigbadben, Not really an area I'm an expert in, it just seemed kinda funky, I should not have said anything really, my bad.01:21
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freemanjim#01:24
TetracommHello. The Ubuntu liveDVD detected my partitions on my Windows 8 UEFI laptop, but it said it didn't detect any operating systems. Should I go ahead and manually resize a partition to create free space for Ubuntu? (it doesn't offer to resize for me)01:25
freemanjim#ircbot01:26
wilee-nileeTetracomm, You want to resize windows from its partitioner in admin leaving a unallocated space.01:27
wilee-nileeTetracomm, Be sure to do a backup of it you are allowed at least one image/clone up to pro which had unlimited, and do a reboot so it run the autochkdsk.01:29
wilee-nileeruns*01:29
Tetracommwilee-nilee: Thanks. How do I get into the partitioner?01:29
wilee-nileeTetracomm, It's in admin I usually type disk and it shows, I think it's called disk manager.01:30
wilee-nileeor management01:31
andrericHi, I'm trying to make a dual-boot using Ubuntu 13.10 and Windows 8.1, but when I try to install Ubuntu 13.10 it doesn't recognize the Windows 8.1 installation. Can you help me?01:32
TetracommI think I found it. BRB01:32
wilee-nilee!uefi | andreric01:33
ubottuandreric: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:33
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wilee-nileeandreric, More uefi info be sure thats what it is a take a look at the bots info and this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729501:34
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wilee-nileeandreric, Is the second install W8.1 or ubuntu?01:38
iIlL10Oowhat is this mean ? debian-sa101:41
iIlL10Ooit is in cron , but can't find the man page01:42
iIlL10Oogoogle "debian-sa1" can't find man page too01:42
iIlL10Oo# Activity reports every 10 minutes everyday01:46
iIlL10Oo5-55/10 * * * * root command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 101:46
mjw65ssI had a successful LFS build using 13.10 as host. After reboot to LFS, was met wit a login screen. Now what.01:49
freemanjimmeh01:49
freemanjim1=101:49
freemanjim1+101:49
geniiiIlL10Oo: Might want to look up sat, sadd/sadc, sar01:49
geniisa1, not sat, rather01:50
wilee-nileemjw65ss, log in?01:50
wilee-nileemjw65ss, No user or password we assume right?01:51
iIlL10Oogenii: what is sadd/sadc01:51
mjw65ssBooted into new LFS and met by a login screen in terminal01:51
mjw65sscorrect01:51
mjw65ssI must have missed somethin01:51
mjw65sssomething01:51
wilee-nileemjw65ss, I would suspect more detail or yeah another try.01:52
geniiiIlL10Oo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/en/man8/sadc.8.html01:52
iIlL10Oogenii: thanks01:54
mjw65ssLFS booted perfect on first try to a login screen. I cant remember if there was any way to set a user and passw01:54
mjw65ssIt was pretty exciting seeing it boot up and work..then the login screen..01:57
bonhoefferdoes anyone know how to view my print jobs01:57
mjw65sserr prompt01:57
Foxhoundzi have a crap load of .tar.gz archives in a folder. Anyone know how to batch untar them all into their own folders?01:57
wilee-nileemjw65ss, I'm looking at the manual what does lfs do01:57
bkr4godgood evening all01:57
wilee-nileemjw65ss, as a user and myabe password01:58
bkr4godcan someone help me with a printing issue?01:58
mjw65ssits a completely base system.01:58
bcgrownI have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?01:58
wilee-nileebkr4god, Maybe, give the channel the issues identifying the printer of course in that.01:59
bonhoefferI can send a test page, but I can't actually send any print jobs02:01
bkr4godOk I have set up Ubuntu 12 in a VMWare and I am trying to connect to a shared printer on a windows computer that is shared.  I have edited the smb.conf file for the workgroup to ensure that it is in the same workgroup.  I have also installed the samba services. I just seem unable to see that Windows computer02:01
mjw65ssI'll mess with it some more I guess. BUT it's safe to say LFS can be built with Ubuntu 13.10 as a host!02:02
Slade-does ubuntu have a shortcut for 'adduser' for service accounts (no home directory, /bin/false login, etc)02:03
deper29mjw65ss: don't you just 'useradd USER'?02:03
CodeOmegaPrimeSlade deper29 is correct that is the best way to add users02:04
Arrowebhi!02:04
Slade-CodeOmegaPrime: err i think hes answering someone else. because it doesnt really answer my question ;)02:04
CodeOmegaPrimeSlade sorry misread :) been coding all day :\02:05
deper29Slade-: I think it still applies to you02:05
CodeOmegaPrime:P02:05
mjw65ssdeper29: Im stuck at the login/passw prompt02:05
Slade-deper29: or just 'no' would be fine02:05
Slade-used unix systems in the past that've had adddummyuser etc02:06
deper29Slade-: if you do useradd I don't believe it adds a home directory unless you give it the option02:06
deper29mjw65ss: can you log in as root?02:06
Slade-deper29: other way around. it adds a home unless you say not to02:06
mjw65sstried that02:06
deper29mjw65ss: did you create an account?02:06
deper29you could chroot the LFS system02:07
deper29in fact, that's what I would recommend02:07
Slade-deper29: i'm essentially doing sudo adduser apollo --no-create-home --disabled-login --disabled-password --shell /bin/false02:07
Slade-no packages for apollo so gotta install it myself ;/02:07
deper29Slade-: useradd02:08
deper29not adduser02:08
mjw65ssThanks for the help. Im going to mess with it some more.02:08
Slade-yea. sorry :)02:08
deper29mjw65ss: do you know how to chroot?02:08
Slade-ahh useradd has a -s02:09
Slade-for systema account02:09
mjw65ssI tried useradd...then it asked for a password02:09
Slade-err -r02:10
mjw65ssThe LFS is on its own partition, not on a VM02:10
deper29mjw65ss: I understand that02:10
deper29Do you know how to chroot the system?02:11
mjw65ssno02:11
deper29mjw65ss: okay, I'll walk you through then02:11
deper29you're in ubuntu right now?02:11
mjw65ssI cant get passed the login02:11
mjw65ssno02:12
deper29mjw65ss: what are you in right now?02:12
mjw65ssLFS02:12
deper29so you're logged in?02:12
mjw65ssits at terminal with prompt..02:12
deper29the computer you are chatting with me on right now02:12
bcgrownI have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?02:12
deper29is that a different computer?02:13
mjw65ssSorry Im on different computer02:13
deper29mjw65ss: okay, I was confused :P02:13
deper29mjw65ss: do you have a usb to boot from that has a linux distro on it?02:13
mjw65ssya02:14
mjw65ssits Linux lite02:14
deper29mjw65ss: okay, boot from that02:14
in_deep_thoughtwhat is the command to check different processes running on different ports of localhost?02:17
mjw65ssOk I have another Ubuntu booted02:17
gimpygooThe more I use Ubuntu.. The more I love it... Im so suprised more people arent on board with this amazing os.02:17
deper29mjw65ss: okay, go to one of those wonderful terminals02:17
mjw65ssOn the LFS computer02:17
gimpygooI cannot believe how fast it is....02:17
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mjw65ssits there02:17
deper29mjw65ss: yes02:17
deper29mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS02:18
gimpygooI have it installed on an old old comp and its suprisingly fast02:18
deper29mjw65ss: when you did LFS, did you just make one partition for everything?02:18
gimpygooI have I dont know how many applications running right now.. multiple desktops.. AWESOME!!02:18
gimpygooOk, ill stop gushing now.. sorry.. I just had to say it.02:18
deper29or did you make several partitions?02:19
mjw65ss1 partition and a shared swap02:19
mjw65sssda3 and shared sda5 swap :)02:20
deper29mjw65ss: okay, 'sudo mount /dev/SDX /mnt/LFS'02:20
mjw65ssX is partition?02:20
ianorlinx is drive letter a for first hard drive b for second02:21
mjw65ssso sda02:21
deper29mjw65ss: yeah, what ianorlin said02:23
deper29you got that done though?02:23
mjw65ssnot found02:23
gimpygoowhat is the terminal command to see the incoming and outgoing connections?02:25
deper29mjw65ss: not found?02:25
gimpygoothanks in advance btw..02:25
somsipgimpygoo: netstat maybe?02:25
gimpygoosomsip, i was wanting something that actively watches... do you know anything that does that ?02:26
somsipgimpygoo: netstat -c (try man netstat)02:27
gimpygoook i'll give it a shot.02:28
gimpygooThanks somsip02:28
mjw65ssdeper29: Let me switch comps and join irc there02:29
mjw65ssthanks02:29
deper29mjw65ss: join on the LFS one?02:30
vangelishello02:34
swebmy firefox geolocation dosnt work after update to 2302:36
sweband later02:36
swebcurrecnt is 2502:36
swebany of you guys have same problem?02:37
deper29sweb: I'm on 24, no issues here02:37
swebtry this to figure it out : http://www.openstreetmap.org/02:37
swebdeper29: so it seems be for my network ... isnt ?02:37
swebchromium also dosnt work02:38
mjw65ssdeper29: Back02:38
swebany depend on os ? or network ?02:38
fishcookerhow to secure ubuntu installation without copying?02:38
deper29sweb: wait, mine doesn't work02:38
hitsujiTMOsweb: go to google.com and search for "where am i"   is it accurate?02:38
Ben64sweb: you may want to try the #firefox channel02:38
deper29mjw65ss: it won't let you mount?02:39
mjw65ssIm on the LFS computer booted into 13.1002:39
mjw65ssnow02:39
deper29mjw65ss: can you mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS?02:39
mjw65ssI need the command again please02:40
deper29mjw65ss: mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS02:40
deper29if you've already made the LFS directory under /mnt02:40
geniimjw65ss: Perhaps add: sudo   ...before the command02:41
mjw65ssmount: mount point /mnt/LFS does not exist02:41
sweb1deper29: it seems be for network after changin my network from WiMAX to DSL ... DSL worked :|02:41
kalus302:41
sanjay Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me02:42
in_deep_thoughthow can I see what is running on a certain pid?02:42
in_deep_thoughtwhat would be the command02:42
deper29mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS02:42
fishcookerhow to make the ubuntu box can't copied even cloned?02:42
deper29mjw65ss: oh, yeah, do what genii said02:42
deper29mjw65ss: do sudo for everything I said02:43
Akinatopsiahey02:43
deper29I'll remember to put sudo in there from now on. I promise :)02:43
Akinatopsiarandom question: anyone here from oregon or california?02:43
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mjw65ssok now it says its already mounted02:43
ianorlinfishcooker I think live dvd can't be copied if you do not mount any writable media but that does not work as a full system and don't have a burner02:44
fishcookeri mean the ubuntu box ianorlin02:44
deper29mjw65ss: okay, perfect02:44
deper29mjw65ss: mount -t proc none /mnt/LFS/proc02:45
deper29mount --rbind /sys /mnt/LFS/sys02:45
sanjay Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me02:45
deper29mjw65ss: *do as sudo*02:45
deper29I forgot :(02:45
deper29mjw65ss: sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/LFS/dev02:46
deper29mjw65ss: tell me when you've done those02:46
mjw65ssmount: mount point /mnt/LFS/proc does not exist02:47
skelterjohnhi - I'm trying to install dolphin-emu via ppa (https://launchpad.net/~glennric/+archive/dolphin-emu). I've added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/glennric/dolphin-emu/ubuntu oneiric main" to the repositories via synaptic, but dolphin-emu doesn't show up in the package list. can anyone help me trouble-shoot?02:48
mjw65ssmount: mount point /mnt/LFS/dev does not exist02:48
kalusmas:hi02:48
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sanjaysudo apt-get02:48
mjw65ssok I mounted the LFS as per LFS book02:49
deper29mjw65ss: how do they do it out of curiosity?02:49
mjw65ssexport LFS=/mnt/lfs02:49
mjw65ssmkdir -pv $LFS02:50
mjw65ssmount -v -t ext4 /dev/<xxx> $LFS02:50
Ben64sanjay: "some error" isn't helpful. pastebin the full error02:50
deper29mjw65ss: you umounted /mnt/LFS though, yes?02:50
mjw65ssNo i am mounted now02:51
mjw65ssas root02:51
deper29mjw65ss: okay, then 'sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/lfs/proc'02:51
mjw65ssthat worked02:52
deper29'sudo mount --rbind /sys /mnt/lfs/sys'02:53
deper29'sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/lfs/dev'02:53
mjw65ssdone02:54
cortexA9hello all02:54
deper29mjw65ss: 'chroot /mnt/lfs /bin/bash'02:55
mjw65ssok at bash prompt02:55
deper29mjw65ss: are you root?02:55
yeyemanwhat is the intended gesture to make the launcher bar appear, if it's on auto hide?02:55
mjw65ssyes root02:55
deper29mjw65ss: 'passwd'02:55
deper29set your root password02:56
yeyemanit feels like i have to rub the cursor against the side for it to happen02:56
yeyemanand even then it does not always appear02:56
ianorlinthat isn't supported here ...02:56
mjw65ssok done02:56
deper29mjw65ss: okay, now do02:56
mjw65ssnow for passw02:56
wafflejockyeyeman: you can modify the sensitivity in system settings I believe02:57
deper29mjw65ss: wait, you did passwd already, yes?02:57
mjw65sssorry yes02:57
mjw65ssnow user name02:58
yeyemanwafflejock: yeah ok thanks02:58
deper29mjw65ss: you don't need to do that now02:58
deper29I mean, you *can*02:58
sanjayben  how to paste bin the02:58
deper29else, 'exit'02:58
mjw65ssmight as well02:58
yeyemanare there more themes than radiance and ambiance?02:58
deper29mjw65ss: okay, tell me when that's done02:58
mjw65sspasswd is done02:58
deper29mjw65ss: oh, I meant the useradd.02:59
Ben64!pastebin | sanjay02:59
ubottusanjay: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:59
deper29do you know how to do the useradd?02:59
sanjayBen64:E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)02:59
sanjayE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.02:59
sanjayE: _cache->open() failed, please report.02:59
mjw65ssno02:59
deper29mjw65ss: okay03:00
Ben64sanjay: PASTEBIN the whole thing, the command, the error, everything. do NOT paste in here03:00
wafflejockdeper29: what are you trying to do03:00
wafflejock!info useradd03:00
ubottuPackage useradd does not exist in saucy03:00
deper29mjw65ss: 'useradd -m -G group1,group2,... -s /bin/bash USERNAME03:01
deper29wafflejock: adding a user03:01
wafflejockdeper29: yeah looks fine03:01
sanjayBen64.. pls help  me...03:01
sanjay i didn't understand03:02
wafflejockdeper29: actually think you may need a -c in there03:02
wafflejockdeper29: ah no just for comment03:02
deper29wafflejock: not *necessary*03:03
wafflejockdeper29: yeah not necessary03:03
wafflejockdeper29: think I used adduser last time and it walks you through it a bit03:03
wafflejock!adduser03:03
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "sudo" - See !sudo03:03
deper29wafflejock: you can add to wheel to can you not?03:04
wafflejockdeper29: sorry not familiar with wheel?03:04
deper29wafflejock: I don't know if ubuntu uses the wheel group or not now that I think of it03:05
mjw65ssOk added group and user and passwd03:05
deper29mjw65ss: 'exit'03:05
geniideper29: No, doesn't use wheel group03:05
mjw65ssAnd that was into the LFS system correct?03:05
deper29mjw65ss: type the command 'exit'03:06
mjw65ssdone03:06
deper29'umount -l  /mnt/lfs/dev{/shm,/pts,}03:06
deper29'umount -l /mnt/lfs/proc03:07
deper29'reboot'03:07
mjw65ssok deper29 I'll tell ya how it goes03:07
deper29mjw65ss: sounds good03:08
mjw65ssthanks for the massive help03:08
wafflejockdeper29: ah just read back realized you were helping not asking... sorry bout that03:08
deper29wafflejock: no worries03:08
deper29wafflejock: you forced me to read the man pages to see what -c did :P03:08
wafflejockhaha :)03:08
deper29side note: I've never used LFS03:09
gimpygooHeya Waffle! How are ya bud ?03:09
deper29I'd like to try it sometime03:09
wafflejockgimpygoo: doing pretty well, putting off a battle with AngularJS and google maps03:09
gimpygoolol03:10
gimpygooAny recommendation for a webcam application ?03:12
gimpygooSo I can broadcast a webcam to my gf that is out of town ?03:13
gimpygooI want to broadcast on a self hosted webpage using dyns..03:13
gimpygooI also have to get my dyns working on ubuntu..03:14
gimpygooI need an app that I can redirect my page to this comp.. I know that apache ( at least I think ) is included with ubuntu.... Right ?03:14
mjw65ssdeper29 Thanks that worked like a champ03:15
deper29mjw65ss: perfect :)03:15
deper29mjw65ss: were you able to login as both root and your other user?03:15
mjw65ssNow i need to figure out how to choose between LFS and 13.1003:16
deper29mjw65ss: are you using grub?03:16
mjw65ssI logged in as other user and was happy with that03:16
mjw65ssyes grub203:17
deper29which of the two does your BIOS point to?03:17
deper29does it point to boot from lfs or ubuntu?03:17
mjw65ssim in 13.10 right now on same comp as LFS03:17
deper29which is the default now?03:17
mjw65ssLFS is default03:18
deper29okay, in your lfs system, I think if you do 'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' as root that *should* find ubuntu03:18
mjw65ssId rather have 13.10 as default03:19
deper29mjw65ss: are they installed on two separate drives?03:20
deper29or is it one drive 2 partitions?03:20
mjw65ss1 drive 2 partitions and a shared swap03:20
deper29mjw65ss: in all honesty, since you're in lfs I would just do the command I did and it should find ubuntu03:21
mjw65ssim in ubuntu now03:21
mjw65ssbut i will try that03:22
deper29then you just edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_DEFAULT to whichever menu entry is ubuntu03:22
deper29*however* that might not work. If it has alternate boot options under a submenu of a sort, then you have to edit /etc/grub.d/ stuff03:23
deper29and unfortunately that's out of my skill because I've never cared to do it.03:24
racecarHey! Whats up? 303:24
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mjw65ssI'll keep working on it and report back. You helped enough already Thanks03:25
deper29mjw65ss: lol, no problem03:25
racecarHey guys what is the best vm for ubuntu?03:25
deper29mjw65ss: out of curiosity, why did you install LFS?03:25
deper29!best03:26
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:26
deper29!best | racecar03:26
ubotturacecar: please see above03:26
mjw65ssJust to see ifI could do it and learn more03:26
mjw65ssthen I hit the login prompt haha03:26
deper29mjw65ss: that's fair. I've always wanted to try it. Keep considering it, just need the time03:26
racecaror a better question, can malware thats on a liveusb infect my windows/ubuntu drives? I think it cant, but need confirmation03:27
deper29yeah, haha, I've had that *exact* problem. I forgot to set my root password before during an install and couldn't do anythnig03:27
mjw65sstook me about 7 hours total03:27
deper29sounds right. I think my gentoo install was a bit shorter, but mind you I don't think I had to compile as much as you did03:27
wilee-nileeracecar, This is not the place for it to be honest.03:27
racecarok well thx03:28
racecarbye03:28
mjw65ssThats after 3 trys :)03:28
geniiracecar: Conceivably, if it's something you're running under Wine or such03:29
geniiHm, too late.03:29
mjw65ssOk thanks again deper2903:29
deper29mjw65ss: no probs03:29
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fishduckcan I press a F key in unity to create a new file?03:35
wilee-nileefishduck, why don;t you try them and tell us.03:37
fishduckbecause I didn't want to accidentally delete my CPU. But don't worry, nothing happened ^^03:37
muktiI need a way to instantly sync files across two servers as soon as changes are made on one. Initially I thought of using NFS; however, if the NFS server goes down, the files are not accessible. Is there a solution that would duplicate files across multiple servers near-instantly (or at least within a reasonable amount of time)?03:38
fishduckmukti: check rsync03:38
cfhowlettfishduck, wait, we can delete a cpu?03:40
muktifishduck: I had thought of rsync, but would I just set up a cron job to copy the files?03:40
deper29cfhowlett: yup. I deleted mine by accident last week. couldn't boot ever again.03:40
cfhowlettdeper29, pretty sure that's impossible.  I'm guessing you deleted the OPERATING SYSTEM ... the cpu is (probably) still comfortably seated on your motherboard.  details matter.03:41
fishduckmukti: I think rsync does exactly what you want. A cron job however, does it on a schedule.. and its effect depends on how you implement the job.03:41
deper29cfhowlett: nope, I meant what i said. It was why I could never boot again. I deleted the cpu from my life forever.03:42
hnhnhnHellllo03:42
cfhowlettdeper29, uh huh.  you realize the cpu - central processing unit, i.e. it's a CHIP on your motherboard?  so you ... transported it to the neutral zone?03:43
muktifishduck: okay, I'll read up on rsync more. I'm trying to implement this as a way to provide some sort of redundancy across servers (I'm going to have two servers running, and they need to always have the same files incase one goes down). Thanks03:43
deper29cfhowlett: no, this isn't star trek...03:43
deper29I just deleted it. You know, using an equivalent amount of anti-matter03:44
geniihnhnhn: Hello! If you have a support question regarding your Ubuntu, please just ask your question in the channel, so that someone may assist you.03:44
wilee-nileejust another dimension uh the 6th03:44
deper29or that03:44
deper29cfhowlett: I hope you knew I was joking...03:44
fishduckmukti: you could make a daily/hourly backup.. it depends on what you're up to. If a big file changes every minute, and rsync is unable to transfer just the small changes of it, perhaps rsync isnt the best idea.03:45
muktifishduck: the only other thing I was thinking of was maybe some type of distributed parallel fault-tolerant file system03:48
fishduckmukti: do you need a real time backup, or what?03:48
muktikind of. I'm trying to set up failover between two servers, and I want the data on one to be available on the other even if only one of them is up03:49
wafflejockmukti: how are you storing the data?03:50
wafflejockmukti: just curious if your using a DB engine for most of it, you may have better options available for replication in that case03:50
muktiwafflejock: right now, its just stored in a directory on the servers, nothing special03:51
Mace268Am I correct in assuming thew package updater has an error in the notification area because some ppa's haven't updated to saucy yet?03:53
fishduckmukti: if you use some kind of syncing software, and the files are many/big, they _will_ be out of sync and different versions will be presented by them. Sophisticated synchronization techniques could solve that though, but i.e. rsync does not do it.03:53
fishduckMace268: you shouldn't get an error if there's no updates for your dist.03:54
muktiThis is actually for a school project. I have owncloud set up on two VMs, and I was going to set them up for to failover; but I failed to think out how I would handle duplicating the data across the servers would work. I'm looking into other things like lustre or tahoe-lafs; but I'm not really sure if that is what I'm looking for, or if it is more complicated then what I really need03:54
fishduckMace268: if you add "incorrect" ppas for your software updater however, it's plausible (I don't know). Show the error message.03:54
Mace268fishduck, i get some like this: "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"03:55
Mace268they all worked in raring03:55
fishduckMace268: quite straight forward. The ppa does not exist. That url is invalid because there's no release for saucy03:56
wafflejockMace268: http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages03:56
wafflejockMace268: see how one has saucy and the other has raring03:56
yeyemanwhat does line 12 mean? http://files.aigamedev.com/tutorials/aap-AStarCode.png03:56
wafflejockMace268: means they don't have a repo setup for your version yet03:56
Mace268ok that's what i thought, thanks for clearing it up.03:56
wafflejockMace268: np yeah you can just try to load in a browser too, if it's giving you a 404 there you're not going to be able to get it basically03:57
Mace268i guess i can safely ignore the errors until saucy is set up in those ppa's03:58
wafflejockyeyeman: stackoverflow question not really suitable for the IRC I don't think... intriguing though03:58
fishduckmukti: it really depends on the kind of data and application.03:59
wilee-nileeMace268, I would comment that out till it's there.04:00
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wafflejockwilee-nilee: +1 better to just have it out for now04:01
lotuspsychjemorning to all04:04
fishducklotuspsychje: morning to you sir, how may I help you?04:04
lotuspsychjefishduck: tnx mate, no issues today04:05
lotuspsychjejust letting you guys know i enabled wobbly windows in 13.04 by installing compiz-plugins-extra in ccsm, works flawless after reboot!04:06
wafflejocklotuspsychje: nice always enjoy me some wobbly windows04:07
lotuspsychjewafflejock: me too, always loved that plugin (wobbly terminal : )04:07
muktifishduck: I don't expect huge files. Maybe just a couple mp3s, some pictures, and a few text documents. It's really just to see if we can get a failover setup for two systems, and have data duplicated across systems as close to real time as possible04:07
wafflejockactually have a minor annoyance in kubuntu can't use Ctrl+Alt+KP4 or KP6 to snap to sides of the screen... need xbindkeys I think04:08
lotuspsychje!info compiz-plugins-extra04:08
ubottucompiz-plugins-extra (source: compiz): transitional dummy package.. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.9.10+13.10.20131011-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 3 kB, installed size 103 kB04:08
lotuspsychjesomeone knows why they made this package extra and not default?04:09
lotuspsychjei read one day might have to do with this plugins eat memory to much?04:10
wilee-nileeIt's a bit finicky many mess with it and don't know of the reboot or reset and loose the desktop and some have come crying here.04:10
wafflejocklotuspsychje: yeah think just no need to bloat the system with stuff that isn't going to work well for everyone04:10
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: yes indeed i had to reboot also, makes sense04:11
ZiberI have an ubuntu server, with bridged interfaces (p1p1 is the physical ethernet interface, and I have it bridged to xenbr0 for Xen VM connectivity). When bridging interfaces, they both shouldn't show up with an IP, right?04:11
wilee-nileeI used to to use the unity desktop and saved the config, I like it but use the shell now with synapse and the cairo dock.04:12
wilee-nileethere is a config save when you get it all tweaked04:12
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: is cairo dock more stable then docky?04:12
wilee-nileeI like it better, not sure if more stable but more tweaking, I save a config of it to.04:13
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lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: nice, ill try it04:14
wafflejockZiber: basic understanding of bridging I would agree with what you're saying04:14
lotuspsychjeZiber: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know it aswell?04:15
wafflejockZiber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge04:16
ZiberWhen I added "iface p1p1 inet manual", I lost connectivity to the box. Which is sitting my house... 200 miles away :(04:17
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: looking nice: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=ubuntu+cairo+dock04:17
babinlonstonHi All , What is Reverse proxy and what the use of it , in which environment i need it ? and when i need to configure a reverse proxy , How to do it in ubuntu ?04:20
lotuspsychje!proxy | babinlonston04:20
ubottubabinlonston: Several Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak04:20
wafflejockZiber: were you typing these commands directly into ssh console04:20
wafflejockZiber: believe you told that interface to have no IP04:21
babinlonstonubottu: ???04:21
Ziberwafflejock: Well, yeah. You see my dilemma.04:21
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, mines quite simple looking. http://imagebin.org/27570104:21
wafflejockZiber: I do04:21
wafflejockZiber: unfortunately I have no idea what you can do except relax until you get home04:21
buuZiber: Can you power cycle the machine?04:22
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: very nice! i like minimal04:22
ZiberNot remotely. I'm gonna see if my parents will fix it for me. And if I get it back up, I'll put the VPN on a VM, so I'm not messing with the network of the physical machine.04:22
babinlonstonhey i'm asking for configuring in my office man04:22
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, me to I have the top bar recessed, the shell has a lot of nice extensions.04:23
buuZiber: That's what I meant, the parent power cycle =]04:23
wafflejockZiber: yeah power cycle should do you good since nothing was being updated in the actual networking files yet04:23
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lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: ill try it in a bit, always loved ubuntu eye candy :p will match the wobbly windows04:24
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wilee-nileeThe shell has a wobbly window extension, but not as nice as the compiz one.04:24
wafflejocklotuspsychje: I used to dig the burning windows and exploding windows and everything too but found it was too distracting ultimately.... wobbly is still all good04:24
lotuspsychjewafflejock: did you try it on 13.04?04:25
wafflejocklotuspsychje: no haven't used them in a bit probably 12.0404:25
wafflejocklotuspsychje: have wobbly on04:25
lotuspsychjewafflejock: cool!04:25
wafflejocklotuspsychje: bummed about some of the keybinding issues in KDE it's the only down point I've found04:26
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: yes, the compiz one is pretty stable04:26
lotuspsychjewafflejock: you on kubuntu?04:26
wafflejocklotuspsychje: like need scripts to use the super key by itself and keypad mapping issues04:26
wafflejocklotuspsychje: yeah04:26
lotuspsychjenice104:26
wafflejocklotuspsychje: went from 13.04 Ubuntu to Kubuntu, wanted to be able to customize, which I'm happy with but just bummed about a few of the keybinding issues04:27
wilee-nileeI used to have the cube and all the fun stuff in compiz, it did not work well on the transition to unity, but I think does again now to some extent.04:27
lotuspsychjewafflejock: hows the speed for you on 13.04 kubuntu?04:27
wafflejocklotuspsychje: speed isn't really much of an issue, SSD and 2.4 GHz Quad-Core with 8 GB of RAM04:27
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: never been able to run cube properly with unity myself04:28
wafflejocklotuspsychje: any linux has plenty of headroom04:28
fishduckjust simply want to  tar -c compressed.tar /some/dir   .. but I'm doing something wrong, now do I not?04:28
wilee-nilee11 something it got funky if I remember, sort of04:28
lotuspsychjewafflejock: nice specs, what ssd brand you run on kubuntu?04:28
wafflejocklotuspsychje: not much for a graphics chipset but really can't notice really any lag doing anything, booting the Win 8 Virtual machine takes about 10 seconds04:28
wafflejocklotuspsychje: it's a crucial 128GB04:29
wafflejockalways strapped for space04:29
lotuspsychjewafflejock: i still use an old transcend 8 gig slc on ubuntu 13.04 64bit, and goes rocketfast04:29
lotuspsychjesudo halt in 3sec04:30
wilee-nileeI think more would use the shell if they new of the extensions it is moving forward04:30
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: indeed04:30
soldierboywilee-nilee, how is it moving forward?04:30
Hilikuswhy isn't ubuntu persisting my nvidia-settings? i have 3 monitors attached but only use 1, every time i log in i have to re-disable the other two. I try apply and also "Save to x configuration file" but the settings are always lost after a reboot04:31
wilee-nileesoldierboy, Just getting better per edition and the independent users are making nice extensions, both unity and the shell are nice though.04:31
wafflejockHilikus: believe you need to run nview as sudo for it to have write permissions to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:31
wilee-nileeit sits under unity and compiz04:32
Hilikuswafflejock: when i do "save to x configuration" it asks for root password, i though it was doing it then04:32
wafflejockHilikus: could be just a guess04:32
Hilikusi will try starting the process as root to see04:32
itsnotlupusdumb Q: just upgrade to 13.10, chrome refuses to start claiming it can't find libudev.so.0. libudev.so.0 is under /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ exactly where it should be. how would I get chrome to accept that simple fact?04:33
wafflejockitsnotlupus: take chrome aside and let it know you mean business and it's not getting any TV for a week04:33
wafflejock:)04:33
itsnotlupusbut Chrome is how I watch all my TV :'(04:33
itsnotlupusno but seriously. tried ldconfig, no difference. it makes no sense.04:34
wilee-nileeitsnotlupus, Is it the latest chrome there was a missing something not long ago, I have not seen that complaint here in the last week.04:34
itsnotlupusfair point. maybe I need to download a new chrome and hope for the best.04:34
the8thbitMy webcam doesn't work in firefox or chromium, but it does work on the desktop with cheese.04:35
lotuspsychjethe8thbit: did you select your webcam in the flash window onsite?04:35
wafflejockthe8thbit: yeah was going to ask how are you testing in the browser04:35
wafflejockthe8thbit: Google Hangouts I haven't seen any issues04:36
wilee-nileeyeah check the adobe controls04:36
wafflejockthe8thbit: but has their own plugin and controls04:36
the8thbitlotuspsychje, wafflejock: I tried this site: http://webcamtoy.com/04:36
wafflejockadobe settings defintiely would block but should ask for access too04:36
the8thbitIt says I have a webcam, and the little light on my laptop turns on, but all I get is black04:36
the8thbitand I think I'm using the HTML5 version04:37
the8thbitso it shouldn't be an issue with flash04:37
wafflejockthe8thbit: all I get is black there too but I have two webcams04:37
the8thbitAh04:37
wafflejockthe8thbit: may be getting my laptop one instead of the main one but may just be broken04:37
wafflejockthe8thbit: maybe wait for a few more to chime in but didn't work here after allowing04:37
the8thbitWell, in flash sites, I can't interact with the little popup that asks for my permission04:37
the8thbitdoes anyone know what coursera uses for signature track? (flash/html5) That's why I need my webcam04:38
beepiethe8thbit, chrome has the lastest flash04:42
beepie,/latest04:42
the8thbitbeepie: I'm using chromium, does that also have the latest flash?04:44
xanguathe8thbit: no04:45
ShauntHey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?04:45
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: tnx mate worked out great!! you made my day: http://oi44.tinypic.com/30wldmu.jpg04:48
czhanacekHi everyone04:48
czhanacekSo I managed to screw up one of our iMacs pretty well.04:48
nucc1hi, what user does cron run scripts as?04:49
czhanacekI dd'd to the wrong disk (accidentally) when cloning another disk, and that disk was my hard drive. My question is this: Can I just run a live cd to wipe the hard drive and then install Mac OS X fresh?04:50
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, cool I like it that setup, it is in .config now to just add to any new install.04:50
czhanacekCurrently, I can't do that from the Recovery OS because it was also trashed.04:50
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: tnx for the hint!04:50
xmetalbrb, trying to figure why my circuitry calculations are wrong again .. (and not even the same way they were wrong the first time)04:51
wilee-nileehehe o prob04:51
wilee-nileeno*04:51
cfhowlettczhanacek, you'll have to re-grub / bootloader configuration04:51
lotuspsychje!cron | nucc104:52
ubottunucc1: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto04:52
czhanacekcfhowlett: What is re-grubbing?04:52
xmetalgoing to the fridge for a second "fridge raid"04:52
xmetal:P sorry ... "ot " i know i know04:52
wilee-nileeThat's why I never dd04:54
wafflejockczhanacek: do you have an OS X installation CD?04:54
wafflejockczhanacek: if you have that and Apple hardware I don't see why a clean install wouldn't work04:54
czhanacekwafflejock: Can't find it...04:55
wafflejockczhanacek: doing it on a hackintosh setup you just need a boot CD you use in advance of popping in the OS X setup disc04:55
cfhowlettczhanacek, grub tells the computer where to look when you boot.  usually, the last OS loaded writes the bootloader and ignores all the previous OS.  thus, install grub last or reconfigure if you install another OS04:55
czhanacekAlso, I don't have a drive to burn dual-layer DVDs that all the Mac disks seem to be on.04:55
wafflejockczhanacek: you can order them this is what I started with to do a hackintosh setup http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard04:56
czhanacekcfhowlett: I'm not exactly looking to use Ubuntu long term04:56
czhanacekThis was more to be an emergency setup04:56
wafflejockczhanacek: you may want to check out ubuntu while the CDz in the mail :), not sure what other alternatives you would have04:57
wafflejockczhanacek: if it's still under warranty maybe try to contact an apple store04:58
czhanacekAlright thanks wafflejock04:59
wafflejockczhanacek: np sorry it's not such a productive answer hope you get it worked out... dd is a double edge sword05:00
cfhowlettczhanacek, virtualbox is the way then05:00
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ShauntHey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?05:04
mjw65ssdeper29  Ok,I can now choose between LFS 7.4  and  Ubuntu 13.10 .  Now onto BLFS.05:04
deper29mjw65ss: BLFS?05:04
deper29also, was it as simple as editing /etc/default/grub? or did you have to dabble in /etc/grub.d?05:05
mjw65ssPart 2 has all the goodies to add to base LFS05:05
mjw65ssI just reconfigured the config file by adding the 13.10 location and menu entry in grub05:06
mjw65ssYes it was a simple edit05:07
mjw65ssBLSF = Beyond LFS05:08
mjw65ssThen I can get a desktop going05:09
deper29mjw65ss: ah, I see. So did you have to grab kernel source from kernel.org then?05:09
mjw65ssNo i built one05:10
deper29no, I know.where did you get your source from though?05:10
deper29to build05:10
mjw65sserr..configured and then compiled05:10
deper29no, I know that. But where did you download the stuff to compile?05:10
mjw65ssone3 sec05:11
BradTNanyone know why or have an idea why.. i made my raid 5 on ubuntu05:11
BradTNbut cant write to it...05:11
BradTNnot understanding why!05:13
mjw65ssLinux-3.10.10  and used menuconfig. I downloaded it from LFS05:14
mjw65ssftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/lfs-packages/7.4/      linux-3.10.10.tar.xz05:14
deper29mjw65ss: oh, cool. I didn't think they did it like that. I guess that makes sense though05:17
deper29anyway, I'm off to bed05:17
mjw65ssThanks again Gnite05:18
fishcookerwhere is the /etc/grub.conf.. i want to give password on my grub05:23
fishcookergrub-md5-crypt05:23
TheteI'm trying to install 13.10 but the installer is sitting at "Running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common"05:24
Theteevery time, multiple machines05:24
ianorlindid you check md5sum?05:24
TheteI'm assuming it's trying to get out to the internet to do something, but whatever the remote end is not responding05:24
ianorlinor do the self test on the install media05:24
Theteinstall media is fine05:24
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TheteI remember this being an issue in previous versions as well, there was something you could do to get it to end the process and continue on05:26
TheteThere a way to drop to a terminal during install?05:26
xanguahi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?05:26
TheteHas something to do with update-manager trying to download something05:27
Theteand if you killed update manager it would continue on with install05:27
TheteYep, that worked, thank you much :)05:29
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r000tHello. I'm having some issues adding a third monitor using my iGPU when two are already served by my NVIDIA card. I know the iGPU is turned on because Windows uses the third monitor, and because Ubuntu will display the splash, tty, and kernel messages on the 3rd monitor. The X server only displays on the first two.05:35
BradTNanyone plz05:38
BradTNhelp with a raid05:39
BradTNi beg!05:39
cfhowlett!raid05:39
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto05:39
BradTNim gonna blow my brains out over here05:39
BradTNi have it mounted05:39
BradTNbut cant write05:39
BradTNnor figure out why...05:39
FloodBot1BradTN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:39
RudyValenciaHi, I'm planning to set up Ubuntu on my desktop and I'm curious: do I need swap if I have 32GB RAM?05:41
RudyValenciaIf so, how much should I allocate?05:41
ticamaiRudy: With that much RAM, on a normal desktop machine, I doubt you will need swap for anything. I have 4gb of RAM with 4gb swap and can run multiple memory-heavy games at once, with no issues.05:42
ticamairudy: If you want to allocate swap, I recommend the same amount of RAM you have, and maybe a tiny bit extra. I believe hibernation may require this, though i may be wrong.05:43
BradTNticamai any raid knowledge?05:44
ticamaiBradTN: I'm afraid not. I'm only still early in my RAID training in my job as a NOC technician05:45
kalakadsnis there any good application for photo viewer, i use gnome image viewer and it is working good only in one instance, when i open multiple windows of the program, cursor gets busy, and this is annoying, nautilus also behaves same, how to solve that, nautilus work fine when i click the icon on the unity panel and when i click icon on my dekstop, nautilus gets busy cursor05:50
cfhowlettkalakadsn, shotwell is a good viewer.   darktable is for a bit more advanced editing05:51
cfhowlettkalakadsn, but it sounds like your gpu might be a limiting factor.05:51
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xmetali use various viewers (just to try them) myself but for editing, i typically always go back to GIMP ..no matter which OS i am on05:52
RudyValenciaSo I need to allocate about 40GB to swap (ideally on another drive)05:52
RudyValencia?05:52
WaaanPalembang05:52
kalakadsncfhowlett: why gpu is a limiting factor? when everything works fine in nautilus , when i click on the shortcut icon in panel(HOme)05:52
WaaanGimana cara main di palembang05:52
RudyValencia(I'm going to be doing Android building on it)05:52
cfhowlettkalakadsn, what are your system specs.05:53
cfhowlettWaaan, mmmm ... english?05:53
kalakadsna simple dual core cpu  2.2 ghz05:53
kalakadsn2 gb ram05:53
kalakadsnintel integrated graphics05:53
cfhowlettkalakadsn, okay, so an older box with limited ram.  vanilla ubuntu used quite a lot of that.  I'd suggest you do a test.  sudo apt-get install xfce4 && sudo apt-get install lxde05:54
iarinov#zentyal05:54
rawfodogIm looking for a gui to edit my grub loader. I want it to skip the grub loader screen05:54
rawfodogor have the countdown time be 005:54
iarinovfracking xchat connection procedures05:55
iarinovjoin in one tab, name of channel in other05:55
genii!info grubconf05:55
ubottuPackage grubconf does not exist in saucy05:55
geniiHm.05:55
cfhowlettkalakadsn, logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  see what you think.  If you like, xubuntu and lubuntu might be in your future.  and if you really want to immersed in photo editing, see #ubuntustudio05:55
kalakadsncfhowlett: when i open file browser from home icon on panel, then there is no problem, even when 10 windows are opened, absolutely no problem, but when i open file browser from desktop icon(Command nautilus) , cursor gets busy, that's it05:56
kalakadsncfhowlett: no, i don't like lxde05:56
kalakadsnit's fast but it is not what i lookinng for05:56
kalakadsnand unity is quite fast on my system05:56
kalakadsni am not facing any laggings05:56
wilee-nileerawfodog, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub is the area and GRUB_TIMEOUT= is the time, but be aware if you set it to 0 you may not have access to grub at all.05:56
BradTNwilee-nilee can you help with raid??05:57
RudyValenciado western digital USB3 hard disks work on Ubuntu?05:57
wilee-nileeBradTN, Never touched raid.05:57
kalakadsncfhowlett: and i don't run too many applications at a time05:57
BradTNive used other usb 3 disks on ubuntu fine05:57
rawfodogwilee-nilee, Id be able to fix it with a live cd thought right ?05:57
rawfodogps, thanks05:57
kalakadsncfhowlett: i usually do file browsing, with internet browsing and chatting etc, sometimes along with music player05:58
kalakadsnotherwise , a movie player like vlc, with other applications off05:58
RudyValenciatheirs use a "SES" interface along with the USB mass storage interface05:58
wilee-nileerawfodog, with a chroot sure, not a good way to go, some can set it to 0 and still get grub I would test it and leave enough like 1-2 seconds, your choice.05:58
kalakadsnso, RAM is not a issue and CPU is never above 30-35%, so this is not a problem for me05:59
rawfodogIll leave it at 1 I guess :)05:59
wilee-nileerawfodog, You dual booting?05:59
rawfodogwilee-nilee,  nope06:00
wilee-nileerawfodog, single install should bypass grub06:00
kalakadsncfhowlett: i tried lxde but it doesn't have any looks. I use dash to search for my favorite application, this is not in lxde and it is easy to find application in dash06:00
wilee-nileerawfodog, Try sudo update-grub and see if still there.06:00
kalakadsncfhowlett: further PCMANFS doesn't have file search feature06:01
rawfodogwilee-nilee, I just changed it06:01
kalakadsncfhowlett: and file search is a big issue in ubuntu06:01
cfhowlettkalakadsn, that was my best guess.  nothing more to add.  ask again in channel06:02
kalakadsncfhowlett: hmm, thanks06:02
wilee-nileerawfodog, run a sudo update-grub so it set and see if grub shows at all a single install should not show grub anyway.06:02
rawfodogran the update. wilee-nilee, what am I looking for ? its at 0 still06:03
kalakadsnleave that,  is there any way to improve read write performance to the NTFS file system06:03
kalakadsni am getting half the performance , as compared with Windows06:03
Ari-Yangrawfodog: check /etc/default/grub and the line #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true should be uncommented06:04
Ari-Yangrawfodog: actually, pastebin /etc/default/grub let me see it06:04
kalakadsnwhere to add feature request to ubuntu06:04
wilee-nileerawfodog, On a single install grub should not show at boot, what other OS is showing when you run the update? Have you had a dual boot, or removed another OS?06:05
geniikalakadsn: The traditional way is to fie a bug report against the package which you would like to have the feature, with the title something like "Feature Request" or "Wishlist"06:05
kalakadsngenii: is there any direct mailing system06:06
wilee-nileekalakadsn, This a shared ntfs for read and write?06:06
geniikalakadsn: Not really. Package maintainers ( groups or individuals) have emails but it is considered bad form to contact them directly in this way unless it concerns some dire issue, which a Feature Request is not06:08
wilee-nileekalakadsn, ntfs faster writes  sudo mount -o big_writes /dev/sdXX /media/tmp  the XX's are the HD and partition06:08
kalakadsnwilee-nilee: i am using ntfs-3g and there are 2 partitions of NTFS and i tried NTFS-EXT4, ext4-NTFS, NTFS-NTFS, speed are approximately 15 Mb/s for writing, 18 Mb for reading06:09
wilee-nileekalakadsn, My concern is this to the windows OS mainly.06:09
Linusping06:12
Ari-Yang:|06:12
Linusrecieved pong :)06:12
LinusJust popped in to see how things are going with ubuntu06:13
BradTNnot good06:14
BradTNno one knows raid06:14
cfhowlettBradTN, most here are desktop users.  ask in #ubuntu-server06:14
cfhowlett!raid06:15
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto06:15
Linusraid isnt really ubuntu or Linux related06:15
kalakadsnhow many of you use mobile-broadband, i mean wireless 3g modem and how many of you think, there should be native support to check prepaid mobile balance when people are on metered connections06:15
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cfhowlett!poll|kalakadsn,06:15
ubottukalakadsn,: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.06:15
BradTNLinus from tech tips06:16
LinusIt was a poor attempt to make people think I was the god, lol06:16
Ari-Yang!offtopic06:17
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:17
kalakadsni have a micromax mmx 352g 3g modem, and it is working well in ubuntu but i am not able to send USSD COMMANDs and check my data balance left . I tried Modem manager GUI, GSM USSD, Prepaid Manger, but none of them worked for me, they detect modem well, but when it come to receive USSD response, they fail06:17
BradTNlol06:17
Ari-YangLinus: #ubuntu-offtopic is like a lounge06:17
Ari-Yang:D06:17
cfhowlettkalakadsn, suggest you contact the OEM on that.  sounds like they don't fully support linux06:18
LinusIm here to help if I can06:18
Ari-YangLinus: that's fine too, but if you just want to chill as well feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic06:18
Ari-Yangwell I'm off~06:18
LinusNot really of topic for support as it could help with future support help if it happened. What will happen if Debian chooses systemd ?06:22
ianorlinnot sure06:23
LinusI can see it causing havoc with ubuntu06:23
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Linusthats if they dont choose upstart06:23
kalakadsncfhowlett: yes, you are right, new manufacturer and their support is _____  , so no hope from them06:24
kalakadsnkalakadsn: their service is just a pain,  i am looking for the alternative, i should go with huawei at that time, but now i couldn't do anything06:24
LinusThis channel used to be very busy06:33
Linuswheres mint chat?06:33
BAMbandadoes anyone know of an irc app for the terminal06:35
geirhaBAMbanda: irssi and weechat-curses are popular ones06:35
BAMbandaare they both available via apt-get?06:35
LinusBAMbanda you can use your terminal as an irc client you just need to know irc commands06:36
BAMbandaLinus, without install anything?06:37
geirhaBAMbanda: Yes, those are the package names I listed06:37
Hrakleazy06:37
BAMbandaLinus, you aren't linus torvalds are you?06:37
LinusBAMbanda you should without installing anything you will need to google some stuff though06:38
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LinusBAMbanda No I was bored and thought I could trick people in to thinking it ;)06:39
LinusIt worked but I got bored06:39
BAMbandahaha cool06:39
Linusubuntu is dead06:41
Linusrip ubuntu06:41
Linusthis channel used to be so busy , not looking good.06:42
etfbIs there a way to convert an Ubuntu system to Lubuntu without having to reinstall from a disk?06:42
Linusetfb yes there shoud be is it lxde?06:42
etfbLinus: I believe so.06:43
etfbI just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a second-hand computer and it's too slow, but I can't make gnome-session-fallback work or switch off Compiz, so LXDE looks like the best option.06:43
Linusetfb then just install lxde from the repo. Removing unity might not be so easy but it shouldnt interfeer.06:43
bazhanglubuntu-desktop is the package etfb06:45
Linusetfb Ive done it with kde06:45
Linusno it isnt06:45
etfbbazhang: Aha! I was typing out a question to which that was the answer.06:45
etfbI couldn't find any package named lubuntu-*, but I was using the Software Center and it was slooooooow...06:46
Linussearch for lxde06:46
etfbbazhang: Is it possible that the various *ubuntu-desktop packages are no longer included in the standard repos?06:47
Linus^^ no bazhang is just wrong06:47
bazhang!info lubuntu-desktop | etfb06:48
ubottuetfb: lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.52 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 31 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf)06:48
etfbLinus: don't be rude. bazhang does a lot of selfless good work here. He/she deserves respect.06:48
bazhangetfb, you would need to update soureces.list first; sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade06:48
Linusok sorry but try lxde06:48
etfbLinus: though if you're secretly THAT Linus, I guess that wasn't all that rude compared to your usual...  (I love Linus Torvalds, but man does he get grumpy...)06:49
etfbTrying both now.06:50
Linusetfb no Im not and yes he does. Got to love the guy though not just for what he created but his persona.06:50
etfbLinus: True.06:50
etfbSo once it's installed (and yes, lubuntu-desktop does exist, and presumably loads LXDE as part of it, how do I make it the default? I remember something about having to manually enable a different login frontend.06:51
bazhangetfb, just select in the login window06:52
d351r3dWhat is the best way to download the repository for Ubuntu?  Debian has images that I can jigdo.06:53
Linusetfb its apt-get install lxde. I just did an apt-cache search an thats what came up.06:53
etfbbazhang: Oh cool. I've noticed that option appeared when I installed gnome-session-fallback (though the WM itself didn't work).06:53
etfbI wonder what the difference is.  Hmmm...06:54
etfb!info lxde06:54
ubottulxde (source: lxde-common): Meta-package for the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-4ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB06:54
geirhalubuntu-desktop is an empty package that depends on the lxde package, as well as the other packages that will be installed by a fresh lubuntu install06:55
Linus!info gentoo06:55
ubottugentoo (source: gentoo): fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.19.13-2 (saucy), package size 755 kB, installed size 1906 kB06:55
etfbJudging from the amount of stuff I'm getting through lubuntu-desktop, it appears that the -desktop one installs all the "standard" software, not just the basics of the WM.  Makes sense.06:55
geirhaIf you install only lxde, you'll be missing some packages you generally want06:55
wafflejocketfb: believe lots of the DEs have a -full package for getting it "all" in one shot06:56
Linusetfb you should have used lxde instead of lubuntu-desktop06:56
Linus^^ using lubuntu-desktop your doing a Lubuntu install06:56
d351r3dIs there a somewhat easy process to getting all of Ubuntu repositories in one go or on dvd?06:57
wafflejockd351r3d: don't think all of the repo would fit on a DVD06:57
etfbLinus: I would rather get the full system, because then I don't have to deal with crummy apps that make certain assumptions about the WM they're running in.  It's nice to have the option, but for my 8-year-old daughter's computer this method makes more sense.06:57
geniid351r3d: The repositories are somewhere between 35-40G06:57
d351r3dWell 20+ dvds. I know.06:57
Linusetfb ubuntu is left behind06:58
geniid351r3d: You could use apt-mirror then copy all the files someplace else after06:58
wafflejockd351r3d: I have heard of programs for getting sets of packages together for an ISO but can't recall any names now, never tried myself06:58
etfbLinus: I know, but that's fine. This is still quicker than downloading, burning and installing a fresh Lubuntu system.06:58
d351r3dI'm not tripping on the size of the repository. I just know to me that it's mostly unknown to a mortal how to acquire it.06:59
Linusetfb maybe06:59
wafflejockgenii: apt-mirror nice07:00
wafflejockgenii: do you actively use this?07:01
d351r3dSo apt-mirror is the way to go? Would it collect all of the repositories that are connected during?07:01
geniiwafflejock: I've used apt-mirror previously to host a repository offline for computer labs which were not internet-connected07:01
wafflejockgenii: cool... seems like it might be fun to do just for edutainment value... have a local mirror for doing setups faster too perhaps07:02
LinusIve found the ubuntu mirrors hard to find. I tried finding the source for the ubuntu installer (forgot the name) ap....07:02
wafflejockcurrently learning the ropes on Grunt.js so one thing at a time but will try to stash that memory07:02
geirhad351r3d: #ubuntu-mirrors likely know the various way you can do the mirroring07:02
babinlonstonWill DNS replace my system IP address by using my system name ? if i configured a Local DNS server ?07:03
wafflejockbabinlonston: DNS only resolves a name to IP it doesn't replace the IP07:03
babinlonstonwafflejock: then did i need to set the ip address for my host manually ?07:04
d351r3dApt-mirror seems the way to go. I'll give it a shot after I jigdo the debian repos.07:04
wafflejockbabinlonston: if you just want to change the setting for how you resolve a name locally you can use the /etc/hosts file07:04
xino77quick question. Is there a command to verify all packages in release is installed and if all packages are correct?07:05
wafflejockbabinlonston: if you want everything on your network to resolve a particular name to a device then you'll want some sort of DNS07:05
babinlonstonwafflejock: ok let me explain07:05
chaotixhey07:05
Linusbabinloston What you mean by system ip? The world sees your router ip and no they cant route to your pc unless your router is missconfigured.07:05
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babinlonstonwafflejock: we have 20 ubuntu 12.04 client machines and a server , i need to get assign ip address automatically , every time it Don't need to rotate the ip other machine , how can i dot it07:07
xino77babin need to set that up at the dhcp server07:07
babinlonstonLinus: I'm talking about local Ip address in my LAN07:07
wafflejockbabinlonston: sorry don't understand why are you not using DHCP to assign addresses what does it have to do with DHCP?07:07
xino77and can set up the ip by mac address07:07
xino77or set up each machine with its own static ip07:08
wafflejockDNS rather07:08
cloudgeekopen a port using iptables ? in ubuntu07:08
wafflejockbabinlonston: yeah you use DHCP server to give out addresses07:08
Linusbabinloston If you have that many machines that need to be public facing. You are in the wrong channel 2) You are useless07:08
wafflejockbabinlonston: or assign static IPs per machine07:08
babinlonstonwafflejock: will u please then explain what the need of DNS server ?07:08
wafflejockDNS is just to resolve a name to an address07:08
wafflejockso say you wanted to name them labComputer1 labComputer2 etc.07:09
xino77babin, DNS is domain name resolution.  Get's the IP of google.com or ubuntu.org07:09
wafflejockyou would need DNS so you can reference by name to get the IP07:09
wafflejockxino77: example is good07:09
babinlonstonLinus: close your trap , you too came to know and no one know every think by knowing new things only we can learn step by step07:09
wafflejocknslookup google.com07:09
cloudgeekwhere I can find the config file for iptables on ubuntu07:09
wafflejockresolves to 173.194.46.7807:09
wafflejockns lookup utiltiy does DNS lookup so finds the IP from the name07:09
wafflejockbabinlonston: what you need is DHCP but all routers will do this basically07:10
Linusbabinloston well said07:10
babinlonstonwafflejock: you right i need to asign the name as system1 system2 likewise i need to assign for 20 computers in my lan07:10
wafflejockbabinlonston: okay if the goal is to have them by name then you are going to want to be messing with DNS07:10
wafflejockbabinlonston: but realize this doesn't affect the IPs07:10
wafflejockbabinlonston: it only  resolves to them07:10
Linusbabinloston what your asking depends on your router07:11
xino77any one here know of a console command to check if all packages of a distro are installed correctly?07:11
babinlonstonok07:11
wafflejockyour router basically is probably handling the DHCP if you're currently able to get online with multiple machines and haven't touched any of the router configuration yet07:11
wafflejockbabinlonston: anything you do within the LAN won't be really visible from the outside without setting  up port forwarding and having external authoritative DNS servers updated to reflect name changes but you should be able to configure your own internally07:12
babinlonstonyes i have automatic ip assign from router , but i need to assign hostname as you said lab1 lab207:12
babinlonstonok07:13
fishcookeris there grub-md5-crypt comman on grub 2?07:13
Linusfishcooker hi, why you asking?07:13
wafflejockbabinlonston: I don't have experience with doing this myself so I'll have to defer to anyone else here but I would probably start here if you don't get answers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto07:13
fishcookeri just want to our grub menu is not editable, Linus?07:14
babinlonstonok let me have a look07:15
cloudgeekI used on ubuntu 12.0407:15
cloudgeekIptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT07:15
cloudgeekiptables.save > /etc/iptables.rules07:15
cloudgeekstill ssh port is not opened ??07:15
FloodBot1cloudgeek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:15
Linusbabinloston what do you need dns for on a lan unless its enterprise?07:15
multivakbabinlonston: it seems to me you are gonna need ddns for that07:15
wafflejockLinus: I've thought about doing it at home before just for consistent name resolution07:16
babinlonstonLinus: Don't need your help , many people's are here to help me07:16
babinlonstoncloudgeek: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT07:16
babinlonstoniptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules07:16
Linuswafflejock if your askig advice how to setup dns on a LAN I wouldnt  use it as their are ways to spoof it.07:17
babinlonstoncloudgeek: sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent07:17
babinlonstoncloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent save07:17
babinlonstoncloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent restart07:17
Linusthe debian way of controlling iptables annoys me Red hat rule :)07:18
babinlonstoncloudgeek: no need of restart upto save is enough07:18
cloudgeekbabinlonston: thanks07:18
wafflejockLinus: nope wasn't really asking for advice though now I am a bit curious what do you mean about spoofing it?07:18
wafflejockLinus: I'm just saying so people within my LAN can use certain computer names for connecting to devices (I do web development stuff nice to be able to show people stuff on their devices without configuration)07:19
Linuswafflejock its about spoofing IP or UDP packets bitt to out of depth for ubuntu chst07:19
babinlonstonLinus: Don't think yourself a Linus Torvalds07:20
wafflejockLinus: just don't see how spoofing would be relevant in a LAN situation07:20
babinlonstonwafflejock: thanks mate07:20
wafflejockbabinlonston: sure thing best of luck07:20
Linuswafflejock I have some experience in hacking. Never think your unbreakable!07:20
LinusNo Im not the real, Linus07:21
wafflejockLinus: I just don't get paranoid behind my router... on my home network07:21
babinlonstonLinus: if you do it , its not hacking , its mean baking lol07:21
IdleOneLinus: Would appreciate if you drop the condescension and elitist attitude. If you want to help in here please do it without being a jerk.07:21
wafflejockLinus: I get paranoid on my AWS server :)07:21
fishcookerkick Linus :-D07:21
IdleOne!guidelines > Linus07:21
ubottuLinus, please see my private message07:21
abyssuswhois xjiujiu07:23
multivakthat was a lil drama07:24
wafflejockeh happens every few hours07:25
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jony_easyriderafter I reinstall Ubuntu 12.04, the EXE files doesn't appear with their own icon, please help07:30
xmetaleh?07:31
wafflejockjony_easyrider: exe files are compiled executabled for windows they won't run in linux07:32
xh_cause .exe file cannot run in ubuntu without wine07:33
wafflejockyeah correction they won't run without wine07:33
wafflejock!wine | jony_easyrider07:33
ubottujony_easyrider: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu07:33
jony_easyriderwafflejock, I'm old in linux :P I know about wine... The programs are running fine, but their icons all the same.07:34
wafflejockjony_easyrider: okay the question was just stated in a weird way07:34
wafflejockjony_easyrider: the .desktop files have an icon defined?07:35
wafflejockjony_easyrider: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39394/change-icon-of-wine-application-in-unity-launcher07:36
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wafflejockjony_easyrider: it looks like quite a few people ran into this if that's your issue... seen a couple askubuntu posts about it07:36
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wafflejockjony_easyrider: I just depend on VirtualBox so wine stuff is mostly foreign ground07:37
jony_easyriderwafflejock, ty07:40
wafflejockjony_easyrider: np that work out?07:41
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thomson112what's the best desktop environment to use on a laptop?07:57
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bazhangthomson112, that depends on the laptop, and your tastes07:58
jnhghyI've just received a ssd hdd that I want to use for my laptop and it is quite cold... should I wait for it to get to a room temerature before using it or can I use it as it is?07:58
laosanhello08:06
laosanquit08:08
Equesnetsplit08:08
laosanquit: Ex-chat08:09
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buuSo I just spent 3+ hours assembling a computer and I just screwed the case in, and I just realized it has two hard drives in it. What do you think the odds of the ubuntu 13.10 installer not actually crashing are?08:12
wilee-nileebuu, we betting on your skills or 13.10's stability?08:13
wilee-nileehehe08:13
sharnywoopis it better to use the 'software center08:13
sharnywoop' or sudo apt-get install?  which one will get you amore up to date program?08:13
bazhangno difference08:14
wilee-nileesharnywoop, all the same repos use what you are comfortable with.08:14
sharnywoopcrap really?   i've been listening to idiots...08:14
cortexA9hello08:14
bazhang!manual | sharnywoop08:14
ubottusharnywoop: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/08:14
cortexA9can i download old release of ubuntu ?08:15
bazhangcortexA9, how old08:15
cortexA9the first ubuntu ?08:15
cortexA9for testing08:15
bazhanghttp://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/  cortexA908:16
buucortexA9: Just download debian, it'll have about the same programs..08:16
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cortexA9good thanks bazhang08:17
jnhghyis there an irc for hbcd?08:17
bazhang!alis | jnhghy08:17
ubottujnhghy: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*08:17
NGabiHi! I have a task in which I have  change the permission of the owners for their home directories. Then I am told that the GID of the folders should be right  set. What should I set the GID?08:17
ripthejackerIf I have an unsolved problem about Ubuntu, where should I ask, askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org?08:19
bazhangripthejacker, here and both of those08:19
ripthejackerbazhang: Ok thanks08:19
helmut_hi08:20
ripthejackerI have a .desktop file,  which when I try to run , fails silently.08:20
ripthejackerBut when executing the 'Exec' entry from the command line, it works fine.08:21
ripthejackerAnd trying to open the .desktop with xdg-open opens the .desktop file in a text editor08:21
you_hello! is it best to install Oracle JDK or JRE first ?08:23
bazhanghttp://askubuntu.com/questions/5172/running-a-desktop-file-in-the-terminal  ripthejacker as detailed here?08:23
you_*better08:23
wilee-nileeripthejacker, can you right click then properties then navigate to the terminal in /usr/share/applications and have it open with it?08:25
ripthejackerbazhang: It's working that way, In short, the 'Exec' entry is not faulty08:25
shadowfleehey guys08:25
ripthejackerwilee-nilee: I cannot change the open with property of that file08:28
ripthejackerActually It has no such property08:28
wilee-nileeripthejacker, You had mentioned a text file openong thought maybe you could.08:30
NGabiWhat should a GID be when you change permissions for a folder?08:30
ripthejackerwilee-nilee: yes, by using xdg-open08:30
ripthejackerIf i try to run that file in terminal directly , It parses the lines inside the file as shell commands.08:31
juniourhi how can i update my ruby ??08:31
shadowfleehey guys ?08:33
jalcinejuniour: install rbenv08:33
danHi08:33
jalcinejuniour: from the ppas08:33
juniouri need ruby 1.9.308:33
jalcinejuniour: sudo apt-get install rbenv08:33
jalcinejuniour: saucy/13.10 comes with that version08:33
juniourjalcine im on ubuntu 12.04.308:34
BanjoFrailhi there08:34
yeyemansometimes the unity launcher does not appear from autohide08:36
yeyemanhow to restart it?08:37
jalcinejuniour: look into using rbenv08:39
BanjoFrailI want to remove an custom installed font, but I just dont know how. I searched forums, but wihotu any solution that worked for me. Can someone help me?08:41
wilee-nileeyeyeman, The right click and tab area where you clicked the hide has a pressure adjuster to show it.08:41
cartusiaI keep trying to pay for more space08:42
cartusiabut it is not allowing me08:43
cartusiain ubuntu One08:43
cartusiais it down?08:43
FloodBot1cartusia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:43
cartusiathis has been true the past couple of days08:43
wilee-nileeyeyeman, There are unity compiz resets for release's look up your if needed.08:43
wilee-nileeyour's*08:43
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wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, Do you really need to remove it or just set what you want?08:46
SMWimhello08:47
SMWimI'm drunk08:47
SMWimas a skunk08:47
SMWimufos are real08:47
BanjoFrailwilee-nilee: i want to replace the otf with ttf08:49
Guest86861My headphone is not showin in sound manager ! what should i do ?08:49
multivakSMWin: drunk on sunday? Really cool08:50
SMWimmondasy birtch08:50
cortexA9hello, how to suggests an idea for ubuntu ?08:53
SMWimSUXK ME DICK08:53
wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, Out of my general area, all I can do is google, which I did and see various instructions, not sure whivh refer to exactly what would work for you.08:53
cortexA9*suggest08:53
wilee-nileewhich*08:54
BanjoFrailwilee-nilee: all instructions are about on specific folder where custom fonts are placed. but just not on my ubuntu08:55
cortexA9hello, how to suggest an idea for ubuntu ??08:56
sharpnelhello i was just wandering if is there any way to make ubuntu make every new file and folder created under my home directory with modes 0700?08:58
cortexA9is it possible to make a Teamspeak server for Ubuntu ? like ts.ubuntu.com08:59
uncle_benso i buy and install a geforce 6200 for an older system with dual boot xp and peppermint (an ubuntu derivative)...booting into xp i see a splash screen, then nothing...booting into peppermint, i see nothing...booting system rescue cd, i can boot into X normally...what's going on?09:00
skebciohow can I change the user postgresql is run as ?09:00
geirhasharpnel: put ''umask 077'' in your ~/.profile09:01
wilee-nileeuncle_ben, neither supported here, you want to find a peppermint forumor channel.09:01
sharpnelgeirha, thank you. it works09:01
geirhasharpnel: Note that files are generally not created with execute bit set, so files will end up with 600 and directories with 700 with that umask09:01
daronhello all09:01
sharpnelgeirha, it is fine for me i just donw want others to see them09:02
wilee-nileeuncle_ben, or ##windows if you are registered with freenode09:02
sharpneli regulary run chomd -R 0700 * on my home folder but it has beign very anoying09:02
geirhasharpnel: Another way is to simply   chmod 700 "$HOME"  Then it doesn't matter what mode the files in your homedir has, since no one will be able to read or enter your homedir09:03
uncle_benwilee-nilee, it's a simple hardware question...has nothing to do with the underlying OS although it seems to work with system-rescue-cd which is gentoo-based09:03
sharpnelyep :P09:03
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uncle_benwilee-nilee, anyway, does it matter much?  the channel is slow09:03
geirhasharpnel: chmod -R 0700 is a bad idea. That'll make all files executable; only files that are meant to be executable should be executable09:04
wilee-nileeuncle_ben, maybe ##hardware than, it is just a channel norm is all, nothing personal.09:04
uncle_benwilee-nilee, already on that channel...anyway, i don't think you should stress about it so much09:04
xmetaluh09:05
wilee-nileeuncle_ben, Heh, I'm not.09:05
uncle_benk09:05
sharpnelgeirha, it is true but since i had no problems till now and i have alot of source codes and stuff it works fine for me to have them executable09:05
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wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, The repos are full of ttf fonts install what you want and use them, many install the restricted-extras to get the ttf-mscoreinstaller-fonts09:09
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excognacikonia: hi. the machine looks stable (i'm on it now)09:11
BanjoFrailin dotn understand, sry09:12
cortexA9sry changed idea, is it possible to make a Mumble server ?09:12
BanjoFrailbut you mean i can just install them without removing the old one?09:12
excognacikonia: but it had 4 kdesomtehing screens up upőon boot, blank bléack windows09:12
wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, Yes, probably easier to see them from synaptic install it sudo apt-get install synaptic and what desktop are you using?09:14
BanjoFrailiam using ubuntu since 1 week, i understand absolut nothing what your asking me09:14
wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, Ah, thats okay synaptic is a package manager, the command is for the terminal. The desktop is what you guided user interface is to use the computer.09:16
buuCan anyone point me at an easy way to get a single package+deps from 'trusty' if I'm on 13.10?09:17
wilee-nilee!manual | BanjoFrail this might help09:17
ubottuBanjoFrail this might help: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/09:17
BanjoFrailthx09:17
wilee-nileeBanjoFrail, No problem, we want you to understand and have fun, but yes you can install fonts that you want and use them.09:18
xx4h"emits SOMETHING" in upstart can also be used for "stop on stopping SOMETHING" afterwards?09:18
buuFailing that, how the hell do I get broadcom wl to compile on ubuntu?09:20
geirhaxx4h: For specifics about upstart, #upstart may be a better channel to ask09:21
wilee-nileebuu, you seen the broadcom wiki?09:22
buuwilee-nilee: No..09:22
wilee-nilee!bcm09:22
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:22
xx4hgeirha, thx.09:23
buuThanks09:23
sajjadI run this command: "nautilus -q" in terminal it showed this error: "sys:1: Warning: g_object_set: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" what's the problem?09:23
sajjadis there anyone here?09:24
buuwilee-nilee: Oh, I have seen that. It doesn't really answer any of my questions. I need a more advanced version of the driver.09:25
wilee-nileesajjad, why the -q09:25
buuSo I either need to compile the broadcom one or get one from the next version of ubnutu09:25
buuubuntu09:25
sajjadwilee-nilee, after adding an extension09:26
tbirdwhere can i find the edubuntu wallpapers? i installed them from software center but they are not in my xfce desktop properties. where can i find them?09:27
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: i tweaked things a little: http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zwg6xt.jpg09:35
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buuAugh why won't this compile09:36
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, looks good more stuff, not the 3d look now.09:37
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: yes i like it to stay ontop, so smaller and not 3d09:38
Guest82464does zram offers any performance on xubuntu with 2gb ram?09:38
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: tnx again for hint, its very pro cairo dock09:38
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, Yeah I like it rather than all the panels, with synaptic its all I use.09:39
wilee-nileesynapse er09:39
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: old skool mind :p09:39
lotuspsychjebbl09:40
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, Yeah, I sort of adapted to the new desktops, I don't complain about them, lol.09:40
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: me neither :p09:40
eutheriai was wondering if there is a server like lync for linux09:42
wilee-nileeeutheria, what server there is a search in your irc app most likely.09:47
wilee-nileeI misread that sorry, never heard of lync09:48
eutheriawilee-nilee: lync is a ippbx, with im and video conferencing,09:49
wilee-nileeeutheria, If you are registered ##linux may have some users that would know, if you get no answers here.09:51
eutheriawilee-nilee: thanks09:53
eutheriavery quiet in here09:53
zaq_по русски где спикают?09:53
wilee-nileeyeah this channel is busier daytime us and european time basically09:54
k1l_!ru | zaq_09:54
ubottuzaq_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:54
wilee-nileeshould pick up soon09:54
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zaq_ubuntu-ru нет в списке каналов09:56
zaq_russian speake - where????10:00
k1l_zaq_: like the bot said to you already: #ubuntu-ru10:01
moppyeutheria, I assume you want something you can run in-house and can't use google apps for that?10:02
zaq_ubuntu-ru  - not in list!! russian speak - where????10:02
moppyzaq_, #ubuntu-ru10:03
eutheriamoppy: does google apps do an ippbx?10:03
zaq_ubuntu-ru  NON IN LIST10:03
eutheriamoppy: running inhouse is best,10:03
moppyeutheria, voip exchange server?10:03
eutheriamoppy: and exchange runs on linux?10:04
moppyeutheria, they have pretty good video conferencing with hangouts: they use it internally themselves10:04
DebolazHmm.... I have a directory that's g+s www-data, but when I rsync into it, the files becomes owned by my own group. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? I thought the setguid bit would force ownership to a specific group?10:04
eutheriamoppy: i guess i should get out of the mentality of doing it all myself10:05
moppyeutheria, i dont know of any traditional server that would do it on linux, but you might see if redhat has somethng10:05
moppyeutheria, or ask ##linux10:05
moppyeutheria, or just use google apps, it does it or they couldnt do it themselves internally10:05
k1l_zaq_: "/join #ubuntu-ru" to join that russian channel10:07
eutheriathanks moppy10:08
moppyi've told ubuntu-ru (in english) they have a refugee lost here, and come and pick him u pplease10:08
Ben64Debolaz: you've got something wrong, check everything10:08
selig5d10:08
zaq_ #ubuntu-ru - this is chanell in what server??10:08
Ben64zaq_: this server, just type "/join #ubuntu-ru"10:08
k1l_zaq_: in freenode10:08
moppyfreenode #ubuntu-ru10:08
moppyhopefully he should vanish in a cloud of PMs :-)10:09
zaq_NO ubuntu-ru this servtr!10:09
DebolazI hate Linux filesystem permissions. :P10:10
k1l_zaq_: this is not true. i just joined the #ubuntu-ru channel.10:10
ActionParsnipzaq_: #ubuntu-ru is a channel on the freenode server which also has the #ubuntu channel on, which you are in now10:11
moppyDebolaz, they're a bit arcane, and hard to manage with large systems. But permissions are quite complex and i don't thnk there's an easy alternative. Remember it has to work for small and large systems10:11
s1ncetestip10:11
FecondoHello! I got a problem: I try to compile a package (nginx) from sources but only usr/share/docs seem to be put into that package. Doesn't anybody know what can be a problem and where to look for a solution?10:12
Debolazmoppy: It shares the same problem as early java did: It's so simple that it doesn't really work well for anything, and the workarounds you have to go through as a result are incredibly complex.10:12
ActionParsnipFecondo: is there not a deb?10:12
ActionParsnip!info nginx10:12
caron_l10:12
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-3ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 90 kB10:12
moppyFecondo, are you saying the sources only have the docs and not the code?10:13
Debolazmoppy: Today, I learnt that the setgid bit on directories is useless, because it can be overridden and hence doesn't guarantee anything.10:13
ActionParsnipFecondo: install using apt-get, why are you compiling?10:13
Debolazmoppy: And default behavior of rsync -avz is to override it.10:13
Fecondomoppy: I doubt it, there is also code, while compiling some .c files' names printing10:13
moppyi had to compile apache as i didnt like ubuntu's security options. i dont know what his use case is though10:13
FecondoActionParsnip: There is a deb with no binary executable (but exists in original package)10:14
FecondoI'm getting sources by apt-get source nginx10:14
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moppyFecondo, is this a silly question, but how do you know it only builds the docs? did you check the paths, and do you on your system need sudo to install it?10:15
sara_why when i have a network speed of 16.6289062 Mbps am i not able to streem a bbc radio programme via iplayer10:15
moppyFecondo, oh i've not sed apt-get source: i have no idea what it does. can you get the code from their repo?10:15
Fecondomoppy: After installing I didn't found it in FS, so I opened .deb as an archive and didn't find an executable there also10:16
Ben64Fecondo: you really should be using the repositories instead of compiling10:16
moppynot sure if there's supposed to be an executanle in a source deb.... just get the code form nginx's site/repo10:16
FecondoBen64: There is no way to install a module to nginx but compiling sources10:16
Ben64then find a ppa with the configuration you like? or use a different server?10:18
zaq_"/join #ubuntu-ru"10:18
nii236|RPi`/part10:18
nii236|RPi/part10:18
Ben64zaq_: without the quotes10:18
FecondoBen64: I didn't find ppa with this package. Using different server, heh? Amusing tip10:18
moppyFecondo, http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Source_Releases10:19
Ben64better than trying to compile something and trying to keep it updated10:19
moppyFecondo, ppl here are afraid of compiling; if you get stuck try #nginx or something10:19
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Ben64not afraid, but it can mess up the system10:20
Fecondomoppy: It happens to have its own repo... Cool, I didn't realize that. I'll try to deal with sources from their repo. Thank you.10:21
moppyEveryone who isn't nobody has their own repo these days10:21
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enycmoppy: lol =)10:22
k1l_!register > zaq_10:23
ubottuzaq_, please see my private message10:23
enycmoppy: and many expeienced people seem to have given up on ubuntu as-is... hey-ho =(10:23
moppyi don't understand that10:23
moppyBen64, can you try to get them to PM him in russian? it might be the only way10:24
DebolazWould it be possible to use some other mechanism other than parentdir setgid to ensure the content of a directory is always owned by a specific group? ACL or something?10:24
FecondoBen64: "trying to keep it updated" - that's quite simple by the way, just use configuration management systems10:25
Ben64what? you'd need to recompile it for every bugfix10:25
moppywell it;s not hard once you done it once; make && make install, and go make coffee10:26
FecondoBen64: So what? You have to reinstall it for every bugfix. Difference just in minutes10:26
moppys/you/you've10:26
Ben64well look at all the trouble you're having doing it once10:26
moppyBen64, most packages are "clone from git (1 command); ./configure; make; sudo make install" and it;s done10:27
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FecondoAnyway, there is no way to install module to nginx dynamically, so we jsut must figure out a solution10:27
Fecondoas Nginx is a candy and almost an unique instrument10:28
moppyi've no experience with nginx, it's supposed to be faster and lower memory footprint than apache, right?10:28
ljunggrenI can't start firefox unless "sudo firefox" how come? i haven't done anything really?10:29
Fecondomoppy: it's much faster there is load balancing etc10:29
moppyFecondo, btw there are 500+ people in #nginx10:29
moppyFecondo, probably >1 of them knows how to build it10:29
Ben64ljunggren: pastebin the error trying to run it from command line, and you should never run "sudo firefox"10:29
ljunggrenok10:30
ljunggrenBen64, http://pastebin.com/pvPqQ4Ap10:30
Fecondomoppy: Perfect, right, I'd better ask there10:30
ljunggrenBen64, basicaly "acces denied" lol10:31
Ben64are you on ubuntu?10:31
ljunggrenBen64, yes10:32
moppyljunggren,  i had this discussion about a month ago with another python dev about whether or not you want to localise error messages :-)10:32
moppyljunggren, we never agreed!10:32
ljunggrenmoppy, i don't really know what you are talking about lol10:33
moppyljunggren, is when you write a program and translate all the menus etc into another language (localisation). do you do the error messages? if you do, it good for the user, but you no-longer understand their bug reports10:33
Ben64ljunggren: pastebin "ls -lad ~/.gnome2; ls -laR ~/.gnome2"10:33
ljunggrenmoppy, oh sorry10:34
ljunggrenBen64, http://pastebin.com/peL3jShv10:34
moppyif you dont the users cant fix it themselves. if you do, you cant fix it ;-)10:34
ljunggrenit says10:34
Ben64ljunggren: well theres your problem, stop running stuff with sudo!10:35
ljunggrenBen64, what am i running with sudo10:35
ljunggren:(10:35
Ben64firefox i know for sure, but probably more10:35
Ben64if you absolutely need to run a graphical app with root privileges, which should be extremely rare, use gksudo10:35
ljunggrenBen64, i have ran "sudo nautilus" for copying into themes, i have run "sudo steam"  i think also.. but nothing else10:36
Ben64yep, don't do those10:36
ljunggrenSorry10:36
Jeroihello10:36
ljunggreni didn't know it was bad for me10:36
ljunggrenwill stop now10:36
JeroiI have problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/370875/workspeace-view-shows-first-workspaces-out-of-border-at-left10:36
ljunggrenbut how can i fix this?10:36
Ben64"gksudo nautilus" if you need, and you shouldn't need root for steam at all10:36
marcxhi, why is sudo bad?10:36
JeroiIs there solution for this?10:36
ljunggrenBen64, it was giving me lot of headieachs10:36
ljunggrenBen64, i will never do it again swear!10:37
ljunggrenBen64, but is there a way to fix this easily?10:37
Ben64"sudo chown -R ljunggren /home/ljunggren/.gnome2"10:37
ljunggrenno! i wont sudo again!10:37
ljunggrenlol j/k10:37
Ben64sudo for command line apps, gksudo for graphical10:38
ljunggrenBen64, thank you thank you thank you! i was not aware of that10:38
ljunggrenBen64, gksudo gksudo. ..  will tatoo that one10:38
Ben64can actually prevent you from logging in under certain circumstances10:39
ljunggrenBen64, i think i have broken many ubuntu installs by NOT knowing this10:39
ljunggrenbecause running lots os sudo nautilus etc10:39
Ben64yeah they should make it more apparent10:39
ljunggrenive heard of gksudo but never bothered about it ..10:40
ljunggreni will carry on this message10:40
OkitainBen64: I'm not in on what you're talking about, what is it?10:41
Ben64Okitain: you should never use sudo for graphical applications10:42
mojzeszHi all10:42
OkitainBen64: I use gksu or kdesudo because X forwarding doesn't work otherwise, but what's the actual danger?10:42
Ben64Okitain: root can end up owning critical files or directories in your home, preventing things from working as they should10:43
MyrttiOkitain: files in your home directory that govern how stuff works after you login into your desktop session might get wrong permissions and so loading the session fails10:43
moppysolution is to run as root obviously :-) *hides*10:43
OkitainBen64:  Oh, that? Yup, fixed those sometimes.10:43
moppydont do that though!10:44
mojzeszI want to ask that can i during instalation of linux write commands to set correct place of instalation on hdd10:44
ljunggrenow i hate swedish bankid...10:44
ljunggren!10:44
cfhowlettmojzesz, of course.10:45
cfhowlettmojzesz, when you see the partition screen, you can choose where to put ubuntu10:45
mojzeszI have bad sectors at begin of hdd and i want to install linux in good part of disc10:48
cfhowlettmojzesz, ok.  hey when you disk fails, as it will, and soon, what are you plans?10:50
moppyinstall today, use until break, install again later10:52
jiltdilI have ubuntu 13.10 installed, when trying to connect through modem(BSNL broadband) it is not connecting, while using reliance usb modem it is working. How to resolve this. Thanks10:53
cfhowlettmoppy, seems he took you at your word.  I'd have suggest install to USB10:53
jiltdilAny help guys10:56
Paulus68_1!patience|jiltdil11:01
ubottujiltdil: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/11:01
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ActionParsnipjilrun:   lsusb     use the 8 character hex id to find guides (I assume it is USB based)11:18
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Guest64270hi! i'd like to set up a nas device using ubuntu, has anyone tried that?11:20
sam113101yes11:21
MonkeyDustGuest64270  i couldnt pick one for you https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+nas11:22
Mike_H1960_lol11:23
Mike_H1960_morning everyone11:23
starnixHello people11:28
ActionParsnipGuest64270: install openssh-server   and you now have an SFTP server, simples11:28
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:33
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purezenHey guys..! I am a long-time Linux user.. mainly of Ubuntu.. though until now I used to do a fresh install whenever a new version of Ubuntu showed up.. Right now, I am using 13.04.. and want to upgrade it to 13.10.. If I do it from the software center in 13.04.. what all shall I loose/face issues compared to doing a fresh install..? Thanks..!!11:37
purezenI mean *software updater..!11:38
Squarepypurezen, f.i. if yyou run out of space11:40
BluesKajpurezen. in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade , then you can monitor the actual upgrade to 13.10 , but using the update manager works just as well, it's your choice11:41
BluesKajpurezen. you won't lose anything ..I didn't11:42
purezen Squarepy, BluesKaj : Hey..! No, space doesn't seem to be an issue..! I have aplenty..;-) Cool.. I will try do-release upgrade.. Only thing I am bothered with is that I have a lot of development stuff installed on my machine.. Ruby on Rails, Android etc.. I just dont want to run into issues with using that later..11:43
Squarepythen why upgrade :)11:44
Squarepyfresh install, move over, then burn the ships11:44
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MonkeyDustwell, I can no longer boot from USB or CD on this old laptop, so i'm stuck with a Frankenstein-Ubuntu I wish to replace11:45
purezenSquarepy, Oh.. I hope that the new kernel brings hardware fixes to my machine..;-)11:47
purezenSquarepy, I'll do that in that case..11:47
jony_easyridertips for online free strategy games under Ubuntu (not wine)?11:48
bgardnerMonkeyDust: Got any other laptop hardware around?  You could pull the drive, install Ubuntu in another laptop, then return it to your case after the surgery.11:50
Snowiehi all. not a buntu question but im struggling to find an answer. im on porteus and i can get sshfs set to amazon ec2 (only as root however) but when mounted if i select the folder i get an error "/path/to/folder/ does not exist" if i unmount it the empty folder opens fine. any suggestions where to troubleshoot next?11:52
MonkeyDustbgardner  tnx, found this... https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/installing-a-kernel-in-ubuntu/11:52
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Snowiethe amazon instance is Ubuntu lts, but from everything ive read the host setup only needs to support ssh, it is likely a client error, is that right?11:54
Paulus68_1MonkeyDust: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59347/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-without-a-cd-or-usb-drive11:54
xavkorHi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS using wubi alongside windows 8 and would like to dist-upgrade to 13.10 but when i issue the command update-manager -d it says 14.04 is available. how do i upgrade to 13.10?11:56
MonkeyDustxavkor  it's because wubi is not a Reacto l installation, it's not supposed to be upgraded, it's a windows application11:57
MonkeyDustreal*11:57
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Snowiecan anyone recommend a good method to mount remote files on amazon ec2 ubuntu 12.04 locally for editing? is there a better option then sshfs?11:59
buuSnowie: Is there some reason you don't just ssh in and edit locally?11:59
xavkor=< guess i'm stuck with 12.04... thanks for explaining anyways =)12:00
Snowiebuu: its a web server and i wnat to use highighted editor12:00
Snowiei have looked at options like c9.io but im not convinced it's as good as it says it is12:01
ActionParsnipxavkor: its supported longer than any other current release, no bad thing12:01
ActionParsnipxavkor: the -d is for (d)evelopment, the latest ddevel release is Trusty (14.04)12:01
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Snowiebuu: is there a method to open the remote file in the local editor?12:02
ActionParsnipxavkor: you can edit a text file so that the inbetween releases are recognised, then run:  sudo do-release-upgrade     but if you have the LTS, why move?12:02
xavkorActionParsnip: yep just that 13.10 has more up to date software...12:03
buuSnowie: I guess this is why most of us just learn vim =]12:04
eugene_HI everyone! I have a problem that can be described in few words like that: Nvidea, iMac, stuck.12:04
[twisti]hi, trying to update today i get an error with the jenkins package, apt-get upgrade says "1 not fully installed or removed.", and when i tell it to proceed "Setting up jenkins (1.538) ... chown: cannot access `/var/run/jenkins': No such file or directory"12:04
Snowiebuu: yeah, something i have avoided for my whole linux career.12:04
Snowiebuu: time to nerd up and get my hands dirty i guess12:05
ActionParsnipxavkor: but does Precise work for you?12:05
ActionParsnipeugene_: nvidia, not nvidea12:06
eugene_indeed12:06
eugene_=D12:06
SmokingFreakhi guys12:06
eugene_but anyway, does anyone know a solution, how to set it up properly for iMac?12:06
buuSnowie: Once you go vim you'll never go back =]12:06
eugene_I've tried various suggestions from the web, but non of them helped12:07
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buueugene_: You have an imac.. running ubuntu.. with a nvidia graphics card?12:08
eugene_I know it sound strange12:08
buuIs it an intel imac?12:08
eugene_but it wasn't my choice12:08
eugene_yes12:08
eugene_a brand new one12:08
buuSo there's like, 1400,000,000 pages on the internet about making nvidia cards work with linux12:08
eugene_I know12:08
buuand?12:09
eugene_I've tried some of the suggestions12:09
eugene_and it didn't help12:09
buuThen perhaps you should ask more specific questions.12:09
ActionParsnipeugene_: dos it have a model?12:09
ActionParsnipeugene_: does it use a switching GPU (Intel and Nvidia GPU)?12:09
eugene_of course it does have a model, it's Geforce 755M if I remember right, and yes, it uses a switching GPU12:10
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ActionParsnipeugene_: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=112:11
ActionParsnipeugene_: you will need to use Bumblebee to get some sortr of support for your switching GPU mess12:11
eugene_I have installed official nvidia driver from the repository following instruction I found on the web, including the one you suggest12:11
eugene_but it didn't help12:11
ActionParsnipeugene_: you need bumblebee12:11
eugene_aha, so I need it even for accelerated graphics?12:12
deverashi guys, need a bug tracker, what's the suggestions? I can't find bugzilla in the default repos12:12
ActionParsnipeugene_: yes to manage the switching12:12
ActionParsnipdeveras: if you subscribe to a bug, you will get emails when it gets updated12:13
deverasActionParsnip: that's not what i'm looking for, i need a client where i can keep track of my own software bugs12:13
deverasclient/app12:13
eugene_okay, I will try this. I've heart about bumblebee, though I thought it's GPU-specific and I should not need for simple tastks12:13
buudeveras: trac is pretty simple and popular12:13
eugene_thank you very much, guys!12:13
buubugzilla is kind of over kill12:14
deveraswill have a look, thanks12:14
buuThere's also jira but it's not particularly open12:14
ActionParsnipeugene_: the kernel will try and use it, so software is needed. Easier just to avoid the whole swapping debardcle altogether12:15
xavkorActionParsnip: guess it should work..12:15
deverasbuu: trac is a wiki, jira is commercial :S12:15
deverassurprised bugzilla is not there by default, are they commercial now? need to check12:16
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aFeijomy crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?12:16
tortali need gcc to run nicely so i virutalized xubuntu from windows - only experience in linux was installing LAMP and other putty stuff like python web servers etc.... NOW.. i want gedit, (or some other nice IDE i can work with C and gcc), but installing it from the software manager or whatever gives me some archaic version.. 2.x.. while one windoww it's 5.x atm. i followed instruction at12:18
tortalhttp://codelite.org/LiteEditor/Repositories#toc1 and added the saucy universe repo. now im getting some 3.x . So maybe there isn't even a 5.x ready in some repo. but im always perpexed to how apt-get makes it picks from the repo list.12:18
MonkeyDusttortal  Saucy has gedit 3.8.312:20
tortalMonkeyDust: how do i get the latest then? and where can i probe for version numbers in apt-get ? the huge repo-list always perpexles me - i dont even know what saucy means12:21
MonkeyDusttortal  Sauce is the codename for 13.10 -- a repo is a software source12:21
MonkeyDustSaucy*12:21
tortaloh, so saucy is an ubuntu invention12:22
tortallike kitkat12:22
MonkeyDusttortal  it's just a name12:22
ActionParsniptortal: its the codename for Ubuntu 12.1012:22
tortali get it, but what abt apt-get . how does it make out what repo to download from12:23
tortalwhen having multiple in its sources list12:23
ActionParsniptortal: just like WinXP is called Whistler and Vista is called Longhorn12:23
ActionParsniptortal: the release name is in the file on each active line12:23
ActionParsniptortal: read the files, you'll see12:23
philinuxtortal: latest stable version is 3.10  https://projects.gnome.org/gedit/12:23
MonkeyDusttortal  scroll down to 'rpm.deb' ... http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html12:24
tortallsb_release -a gives me 13.10 but still saucy12:25
tortali figues that it's still "saucy" then12:25
MonkeyDusttortal  yes, Saucy is the more fancy name for 13.1012:25
tortalsomeone said 12.10, that's why i reacted12:26
MonkeyDustmust have been a typo12:26
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MonkeyDusttortal  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames12:27
ActionParsniptortal: yes, and if you read /etc/apt/sources.list     each line will have 'saucy' on it12:27
aFeijomy crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?12:27
ActionParsnipaFeijo: check the cron log12:27
purezenHey guys! I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and want to try a newer kernel on my computer.. Can I do it? Will I run into trouble..?12:28
aFeijoActionParsnip, in /var/log? let me check12:28
tortalActionParsnip: get it - does this mean that it will always default to the codename closest to itself when doing apt-get install ?12:28
tortallet12:28
manisabriI'm using 13.04 , recently all windows leave ghosts on wallpaper and I found out if I disable the framebuffer in OpenGL in ccsm the problem is kind of solved , except I dont have any wallpaper anymore , any ideas?12:28
tortallet's say there's a wheezy there aswell12:28
ActionParsnippurezen: you can run any kernel you can install but we can only support the kernels for your release from the official ubuntu repos here]12:28
ActionParsniptortal: by default, apt-get etc will only pull in packages from 'saucy' sources (in a saucy install)12:29
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excognachttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/12:29
ActionParsniptortal: then you will get issues as mixing debian and ubuntu packages causes problems12:30
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tortalActionParsnip: how so? debian can't be saucy right?12:30
tortali mean, non ubuntu debian12:30
ActionParsniptortal: no, its a different distro12:30
purezenActionParsnip: Hey! Thanks for informing.. Though, can you tell from your experience if it shall cause serious issues..12:30
MonkeyDusttortal  debian and ubuntu are similar, but not the same - or a different name would not be needed12:30
tortalyes, i've been running clean debian for servers before but always very high-level on the web server or so12:31
ActionParsniptortal: differnet packages have different dependancies, so you will make a mess of your packages12:31
excognacsry wrong channel12:31
tortalim aware of the differences of the distros . i just don't know the inner workings of debian. always been a script-kiddie you see12:32
ActionParsniptortal: the guys in #debian will tell you all you want to know about debian12:32
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tortalActionParsnip: thx, i came here mainly for the question about saucy etc. and how apt-get priotizes it12:33
MonkeyDusttortal  methinks you're on the verge of discovering a new world12:33
tortalMonkeyDust: :), it's funny.. i know fluent python, php and java et al. but NEVER touched UNIX hard core or even c/c++12:33
tortalim such a script kiddie12:34
tortali really want to read K&R ansi C.. but the web didnt even exist back then.. i wonder if there still is a point... like a cultural one12:35
manisabrighosts on wall paper , disable framebuffer in CCSM solves the ghost problem but no wallpaper and slow , any idea?12:35
ActionParsnipmanisabri: use a different WM ;)12:37
manisabriWM ? ; )12:38
cfhowlettwindows manager12:38
manisabrihmmmm12:38
manisabriit was ok till last week, I tried to ignore it but its really ugly !12:39
manisabriand why framebuffer? it seems it fails to clear the framebuffer because the ghosts are still there even after logout/login12:41
purezenAlso, guys.. which kernel shall 13.10 use..? Is 3.12 planned for it..? I know it uses 3.11 atm.. but have seen some links mentioning 3.12 for the same..12:42
bekkspurezen: 3.11 is the kernel used in 13.1012:43
bekks!mainline | purezen12:43
ubottupurezen: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds12:43
k1l_purezen: no, there is no kernel upgrade wanted in the regular (non lts) releases12:44
mole_12:44
purezenbekks, k1l_ : Thanks guys..!12:44
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Untouchab1eis Ubuntu using systemd yet?12:51
k1l_Untouchab1e: not as default. upstart is the default init system12:51
Untouchab1eah ok12:52
Untouchab1ewill be interesting to see what Debian decides to do, but Ill put my money on systemd12:52
minimecUntouchab1e: No. It is however using some additional components of systemd like logind.12:52
Untouchab1eDebian probably wont go for Upstart due to CLA12:53
k1l_this discussion will suit better into the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic since this topic is very controvers12:53
Guest34155Всем привет!12:53
Untouchab1egotcha12:53
Untouchab1eMy question was really just what Ubuntu is using, and now I know12:54
Untouchab1ethanks12:54
MonkeyDust!ru12:54
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.12:54
k1l_!ru | Guest3415512:54
ubottuGuest34155: please see above12:54
Guest34155Можете помочь с AverTV Studio 507?12:54
k1l_Untouchab1e: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to stick to technical support in here12:54
loahello, after some uptime my screensaver stop working...12:56
loaafter reboot all works again12:56
loai have 13.1012:56
loacan somebody confirm such behaviour?12:56
k1l_loa: no12:56
ActionPa1sniploa: are there any bugs already reported on Launchpad?12:56
Myrttiloa: had you used VLC before it stopped working?12:56
ActionPa1sniploa: which screensaver are you using?12:57
k1l_loa: see the logs what happend there12:57
loaok, then i go learning how to debug screensaver.12:57
loathx :)12:57
MonkeyDustis a screensaver still needed on modern screens?12:57
kakakalhello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i enabled hibernate and it is saving successfully , but i think that itt is simply restarting instead of hibernate, how to quickly resume session from hibernation12:58
loaMonkeyDust, blank screen is ok.12:58
loaMonkeyDust, where is your nick name?12:58
loai remember it from somewhere...12:58
loanostalgy about something.12:58
loawhere from *12:58
kakakali want to improve startup time of ubuntu, because it is taking longer than Windows, it should perform better (Atleast equal to )than windows on same hardware, isn't it?12:59
jpdskakakal: #ubuntu-boot.12:59
OerHeks!bootchart13:00
ubottubootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot13:00
MonkeyDustKabaka  some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt13:01
MonkeyDustkakakal   some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt13:01
ActionPa1snipkakakal: different OSes boot differently13:02
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kakakalMonkeyDust: what these lines are doing, i have preload already installed13:03
ActionPa1snipkakakal: you can always disable startup services you don't use13:03
kakakalActionPa1snip: yes, but more  people will move to linux, if it provide better speed and hardware support13:03
Guest271Hi, on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD, ''bzr branch lp:ubuntu/saucy/ubiquity'' returns error ''bzr: ERROR: Revision {package-import@ubuntu.com-20120711113620-v800iu2gzawm21xx} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(CallableToParentsProviderAdapter(<bound method CHKInventoryRepository._get_parent_map_no_fallbacks of CHKInventoryRepository('http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubiquit13:03
kakakalActionPa1snip: yes, i have disabled like printer, bluetooth etc13:04
ActionPa1snipkakakal: more the hardware support, boot time is quite transient as once the OS is booted, it is done, you only boot once13:04
kakakaland didn't disabled what i do not know13:04
MonkeyDustGuest271  next time, better use pastebin for such pastes, describe the issue in human words in the channel13:05
kakakalActionPa1snip: thanks, but i want to enable hibernate and it is enabled but not seems to working, to resume quickly, i need hibernation, instead of sleeping13:05
ActionPa1snipkakakal: why do you 'need' it?13:06
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kakakalActionPa1snip: either startup should be improved or hibernation should work to resume work quickly13:08
BCTv#ubuntu-кг13:10
cfhowlettkakakal, if you REALLY want that to happen then (1) choose hardware from the Certified Ubunut List or (2) petition your hardware builder to support linux.  Otherwise, wait patiently until someone hacks it for you.  for free.13:10
BCTv#ubuntu-ru13:10
cfhowlett!ru13:11
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:11
kakakalMonkeyDust: it is popping out a error while i pasted a command in terminal that there is no file or directory in/etc/default/prelink, tell me what to do, should a made a file or directory there13:11
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kakakalMonkeyDust: udo: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: command not found13:13
kakakalMonkeyDust: how to solve that13:13
makarahi. I'm looking for a simple file encryption tool to store passwords BUT it should just encryption the whole plain text collection of usernames, passwords, URLs, etc. I don't want to create hundreds of fields, and try to organise them, etc. Anything?13:14
cfhowlett!keepass13:14
ActionPa1snipkakakal: so you 'would like' it to work, there is a difference between that and 'need'13:14
makaraBUT13:14
kakakalMonkeyDust: i made a file  named in the /etc/default/13:14
MonkeyDustkakakal  install prelink, first13:14
reisiomakara: you could just put a text file in a 7z archive13:14
makarai use keepass already and I've had a look at others. They all do separate fields13:14
kakakalokay13:15
kakakalsudo apt-get install prelink ??13:15
reisiokakakal: ask ap t-file13:15
reisioapt-file, even13:15
makarareisio, I thought of that, but then every time I want to see the passwords I would be creating a plain text field on disk, which I must remember to delete, etc. Not such a good way to do passwords.13:15
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reisiomakara: not necessarily, but it's something you'd have to take into account, for sure13:17
reisiomakara: y'know if you choose your passwords algorithmically, or formulaicly, you only have to remember the formula13:17
Guest61179Hello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?13:18
sinkensabehi, I have an utf-8 error in /etc/environment which means that terminal does not handle åäö. And unfortunately my user password includes an å. The consequence of this is that I cant access sudo and fix the problem.. any ideas how I can get around this?13:20
flyn4x4is this a problem with just me or do i need to be concerned about it? when running apt get updates this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358707/13:20
ActionPa1snipflyn4x4: medibuntu is no more and should be removed13:21
reisiosinkensabe: mmm13:21
flyn4x4ok thanks13:21
reisiosinkensabe: can you copy & paste it in?13:21
MonkeyDustflyn4x4  FYI: http://www.medibuntu.org/13:22
sreedeviHello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?13:22
sinkensabereisio, the error?13:22
reisiosinkensabe: no, the character13:22
sinkensabeÅ13:23
sinkensabereisio, Å13:23
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sinkensabereisio, å13:23
reisiosinkensabe: can you paste it into your term13:23
sreedevihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1245415- This is the bug link13:24
ubottuUbuntu bug 1245415 in secure-delete (Ubuntu) "Spelling mistake in smem's page" [Undecided,In progress]13:24
sinkensabereisio, no it return a questionmark13:24
sreedeviUbottu: Can you please help me?13:24
ubottusreedevi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:24
reisiosinkensabe: okay, can you try copying your password in plaintext into a file on the system, then using cat file | sudo -S foo ?13:24
kakakalMonkeyDust:  Hi, i installed but i have chrome installed,13:25
sreedeviubottu: Whom should I subscribe to get the bug fixed?13:25
ubottusreedevi: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:25
kakakalthere is no file or folder named  In /etc/chromium-browser/default13:25
MonkeyDustkakakal  yes, chrome != chromium-browser, so that tip may not be valid for you13:26
sinkensabereisio, no didnt work13:27
kakakalMonkeyDust: what does prelink do actually, i have preload installed but i haven't seen any improvement in the chrome but see a lot of improvement in libreoffice and gimp13:27
reisiosinkensabe: well, might be simplest to fix it from a live OS, then13:27
sinkensabereisio, hmm ok13:28
sreedeviubottu: Thank you13:28
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)13:28
MonkeyDustkakakal  "Description-en: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking The prelink package contains a utility which modifies ELF shared libraries and executables, so that far fewer relocations need to be resolved at runtime and thus programs come up faster."13:28
ActionPa1snipkakakal: could set vm.swappiness lower, how much RAM do you have?13:28
etoiletchat francais ou pas13:29
cfhowlett!fr|etoile,13:30
ubottuetoile,: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.13:30
kakakalActionPa1snip: i set it to 513:30
kakakalas mentioned in the file13:30
kakakali have 2gb of ram13:30
kakakalpreviously it was at 60 and i changed it to 20, mentioned somewhere on the internet13:31
sinkensabereisio, in the command you proposed, what should "foo" be, the file ? might have used it incorrectly13:31
reisiosinkensabe: foo would be the command that comes after sudo13:32
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ActionPa1snipkakakal: how much swap space did you setup?13:35
kakakalActionPa1snip: it is of 3gb13:35
ActionPa1snipkakakal: thats good13:35
kakakalbut it remains free most of time13:36
kakakalsome KB there in the Swap space are used13:36
sinkensabereisio, it worked! many thanks!13:36
sai-shanahansaihow many of you guys use preload and would say it's good and worth it and works?13:36
ActionPa1snipsai-shanahansai: id say the benefits were slim now13:38
ActionPa1snipsai-shanahansai: the kernel disk caches things in RAM already13:39
sai-shanahansaiActionPa1snip, hm interesting. thanks13:40
ActionPa1snipsai-shanahansai: if you run:    free -m     you will see how much RAM is used for disk cache. there is a page called 'linux ate my ram' which explains it13:41
ActionPa1snip!atemyram13:41
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html13:41
ActionPa1snipsai-shanahansai: Windows does similar13:41
ActionPa1snipsai-shanahansai: unused RAM is wasted RAM :)13:41
geirhakakakal: Have you modify the swap partition after the initial install?13:42
kakakalgeirha: no13:42
kakakalgeirha: should i set it much higher or lower13:43
sai-shanahansaiActionPa1snip, nice, makes sense, thanks again, i'll keep it in mind13:43
kakakalgeirha: SWAP remains free almost all the time, after changing VM.SWappiness something to 20 , now 513:44
ActionPa1snipkakakal: yes, thats the percentage it will keep apps in RAM :)13:45
gbearhi im having a issue with ubuntu 12.10 and eggdrop13:45
kakakalActionPa1snip: we should keep it to high, only then apps will work fast13:46
streulmaAndroid people in the house ?13:46
sreedeviI have committed a fix in launchpad, Could anyone please verify it?13:46
sreedeviThis is bug link:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/124541513:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1245415 in secure-delete (Ubuntu) "Spelling mistake in smem's page" [Undecided,In progress]13:46
kakakalActionPa1snip: when ram is available then we should keep them in the RAM for a fast system13:47
wyldesreedevi: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-bugs13:48
kakakallet me restart and try, how much performance boost i got, after installing prelink and as suggested by MonkeyDust13:48
ActionPa1snipkaktuskuchen: that is default13:52
kaktuskuchenActionPa1snip, huh?13:52
sreedeviwylde:Thank you so much :)13:53
gbearanyone can help with installing TCL on ubuntu server? when i go to set up eggdrop its telling me there isnt any  C compiler found13:55
ikoniagbear: then you need a compiler, not tcl13:55
gbearok so what do I need to do to install it13:56
gbearwhen i installed the image it didnt ask me what extra packages I wanted to install13:56
gbearalso its installed in a virtual machine13:56
TonnyNerdI am trying to enable ssl on apache2, but 'a2enmod ssl' gives me 'ERROR: Module ssl does not exist!' on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. The ssl.{conf,load} files are nowhere to be found. Any ideas what is happening?13:57
TonnyNerdAnd dpkg -L apache2.2-common lists /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf as one of it's files. But it's not there13:57
TonnyNerdI tried reinstalling it. Didn't helped, the file is still missing13:58
TonnyNerd(also, maybe it's worth noticing it's a LXC container, although I don't think it makes difference)13:58
geirhagbear: apt-get build-dep eggdrop   will install the packages necessary for building the eggdrop package from the repository13:58
ikoniaTonnyNerd: have you actually got the ssl module installed ?13:59
gbearok13:59
TonnyNerdikonia, What package would that be?13:59
TonnyNerdIt says here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/apache2.2-common/filelist) the file should come with the apache2.2-common package, which I already installed14:00
zero_coderhello , my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% disk usage even though nothing much is running. and this is pretty much freezing my computer at times14:00
ikoniaTonnyNerd: no idea without looking, but add expect mod-ssl, or apache-ssl or something like that14:00
zeehow do I install a locale, thats not on the server?14:00
ikoniaTonnyNerd: which file exactly14:00
TonnyNerdikonia, there's no such package, mod-ssl. apt-cache search returns nothing on this14:01
zeei need fo_FO14:01
TonnyNerdikonia,  /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf and ssl.load14:01
ikoniaTonnyNerd: hang on....14:01
ikoniaTonnyNerd: can you show me the output of uname -a14:01
gbeargeirha: it worked, thanks. :)14:02
TonnyNerdikonia, sure: Linux owncloud-dev 3.8.0-32-generic #47~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 16:19:35 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:02
TonnyNerdikonia, as I said, it's a LXC container14:02
ikoniaTonnyNerd: that's part of the reason I'm asking I've seen some containers have certain file systems hardcoded with package contents,14:02
TonnyNerdikonia, but the base container I am using doesn't even comes with apache14:03
ikoniaTonnyNerd: ok, so you've manually installed it and the file is missing, correct14:03
starnixhello people.14:03
TonnyNerdI install it with puppet. Vanilla package, as far as know14:03
ikoniaTonnyNerd: so check the source repo where that package is coming from14:04
starnixI need little help here, I cannot upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10, error: No protocol specified..... some blah blah, gtk:critial error, some..14:04
ikoniastarnix: blah blah doesn't help14:05
ikoniastarnix: factual error message does14:05
starnixthanks, ikonia, pasting it.14:05
ikoniastarnix: use a pastebin14:05
starnixikonia, http://pastebin.com/W82Tf8fi14:06
ikoniastarnix: let me guess, you are running this as root ?14:07
starnixikonia, when I click upgrade button, It is asking me password?14:08
TonnyNerdikonia, according to apt-cache policy apache2.2-common, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages14:08
ikoniastarnix: ok, lets step back in time a little14:08
ikoniastarnix: what is the firt thing you do to get the upgrade button on screen14:08
ikoniaTonnyNerd: looks pretty solid14:08
hm76hi need help with driver install mint 15 G500 lenovo....14:09
ikoniahm76: try the mint support channel on sportnet irc network14:09
ikonia!mint | hm7614:09
ubottuhm76: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org14:09
MonkeyDusthm76  mint has its own support channel14:09
starnixikonia, I am following this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades14:09
hm76ok men14:09
ikoniastarnix: ok, so tell me the first thing YOU do14:09
starnixI opened a terminal, I typed update-manager -d14:10
ikoniastarnix: no sudo ?14:10
starnixno.14:10
ikoniastarnix: what is the username you are doing this as ?14:10
starnixthere is only one user14:11
ikoniastarnix: which is....14:11
starnixwhich i had created at the time of installation @ ikonia14:11
OerHeksoh old ubuntu upgrade  page > update-manager -d  = upgrade todevelopment release14:11
ikoniaOerHeks: yes, he's trying to go to saucy14:11
aethelrickbbitmq14:12
ikoniastarnix: ahhh I see what you mean14:12
ikoniastarnix: ok, so saucy is now released,14:12
ikoniastarnix: so -d = development release, not 13.10 - but 14.0414:12
ikoniaOerHeks: good spot14:13
MonkeyDustOerHeks  +114:13
starnixJust tried with sudo update-manager14:13
starnixgot a dialog for upgrade, and same error @ ikonia 0erHerks14:13
ikoniastarnix: the first thing that is worrying me is the complaint that it can't open an X display14:14
ikoniastarnix: can you open X11 apps from the terminal14:14
starnixwell, guys, I am using gnome 314:14
gbearok got another one since eggdrop successfully compiled. im running ubuntu server ina VM on vmware player. ive tried to enable the share folder but cant get it to be seen in the ubuntu VM because I need to transfer files to the eggdrop folder from the host. how do I mount the share folder14:14
ikoniastarnix: gnome3 is still an X11 app14:14
starnixdisplaymanager is kdm iguess.14:14
ikoniastarnix: so you've got kde display manager, but running gnome 3 ???14:14
ikoniastarnix: that is a very non-standard configuration14:15
starnixYeah.14:15
ikoniastarnix: why would you do that ?14:15
starnixikonia, I installed KDE desktop, at that time I used kdm and again, I didn't like KDM so, I simply used gnome session at the time of login.14:16
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ikoniastarnix: lets go back to the initial question, can you open X11 applications from the terminal14:16
starnixjust tried, gedit open fine14:16
ikoniastarnix: ok, so your user is ok at connecting to the running X11 server14:17
ikoniastarnix: so what happens if you launch update-manager now14:17
starnixikonia, it checks for updates14:18
ikoniastarnix: so it launches and behaves ok14:18
ikoniastarnix: I assume it tells you, you are up to date ?14:18
starnixyeah, it tell, however, Ubuntu 13.10 is now available (you have 13.04) and it has three button one "settings" two "Upgrade.." and third one ""ok"14:19
ikoniastarnix: you hit "upgrade" I assume ?14:19
starnixobviously.14:19
ikoniaand then it falls back to that error ?14:19
starnixit asks password.14:20
ikoniastarnix: ok, you enter that, and then it falls back to that error14:20
starnixthen at terminal it falls back to all these error.14:20
ikoniastarnix: and it still complains "could not open X display"14:21
starnixikonia, yep.14:21
ikoniastarnix: that is odd and a bit frustrating,14:21
starnixlol14:21
ikoniastarnix: out of interest, can you do "gksudo do-release-upgrade"14:21
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ikonia(I'll bet gksudo is not found)14:22
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awerzoiounkcan I change my audio driver in ubuntu 10.4 lxde?14:27
starnixikonia, http://pastebin.com/LMG5yTDB14:27
Lihis_Hi everyone! Does anyone else have problem with Empathy IRC-plugin in Ubuntu 13.10? I mean eg. you have registered a username in freenode but when you add it's credentials to Online accounts you got error message saying nickname is already in use?14:27
auronandaceawerzoiounk: 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop14:27
starnixikonia, after entering nothing happens...14:27
ikoniastarnix: ok, so the first thing to deal with is the 3rd party repos - the instructions say to get rid of them AND get rid of any software they have installed14:28
starnixikonia, what should I do? I just hit enter button?14:29
ikoniastarnix: no, re-read what I just said14:29
starnixinstruction tells that, third party tools are disabled for upgrade I guess?14:30
starnix^iko14:30
starnix^ ikonia14:30
ikoniastarnix: no, re-read what I said14:30
ikonianot what's on the screen14:30
starnixikonia, nothing? except my browser, terminal and this IRC client.14:31
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ikoniastarnix: I said you should remove all 3rd party repos AND any software they have installed14:31
auronandaceikonia: i admire your patience14:32
starnixlol, I have bitcoin apps and wallets :| @ ikonia14:32
ikoniastarnix: not sure what that has to do with anything14:32
fztorstarnix: back it up14:32
fztorlol or make a backup rather, poor choice of words there14:33
starnixThanks, ikonia, I can't risk it atleast not before my bit trade, I will use a spare partition and do a clean install. Thanks..14:34
ikoniaok14:35
siberiannerdthere is an app, which can read and store it's .config only under current user's home directory, i need it to run with another user which doesn't have it's own home dir, but keep it's ability to read/write own configuration file14:35
siberiannerdis that even possible?14:35
ikoniasiberiannerd: a user will have it's own home directory assigned, it may not be useable but it will have one14:37
OerHekssiberiannerd, other user without a /home/ ?? how did you managed that?14:37
ikoniasiberiannerd: where is it assigned14:37
siberiannerdnobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/false14:37
fztorsiberiannerd: first see if the app allows setting a custom config file destination14:37
ikoniasiberiannerd: that use is not an interactive user14:37
siberiannerdfztor, it doesn't allow setting custom config destination14:37
siberiannerdikonia, qbittorrent-nox14:38
fztorsiberiannerd: give it a home directory14:38
siberiannerdthat doesn't fit my end-goal14:38
ikoniasiberiannerd: firstly you're trying to do this with a non-interactive user, and the home directory is /noneistent14:38
siberiannerdikonia, i still need a user to store ~/.config right? i need to run it from interactive user but with other user's permissions14:39
ikoniasiberiannerd: it's not going to work like that14:39
fztorsiberiannerd: sometimes the application developers use $HOME or some other part, or fallback to the binary directory for storing files14:39
siberiannerdikonia, so it's not possible, right?14:39
siberiannerdfztor, man qbittorrent-nox14:39
fztorsiberiannerd: if it refuses to use something else than the users home dir, you have to create one14:39
siberiannerdgot it14:39
ikoniasiberiannerd: it is possible with some apps, but seeing as the path to the path is hardcoded and there are only 3 flags for the command -help -version -webui-port no14:39
siberiannerdso it's not possible14:40
siberiannerdikonia, well at least maybe i could read about those shady possibilities you're talking about? any hints?14:40
ikoniasiberiannerd: what possibilities, I've just told you there are only 3 options for your application, and the config path is hardcoded14:41
fztorsiberiannerd: what is that end-goal you mentioned?14:41
siberiannerdoh, sorry, but many thanks14:41
siberiannerdfztor, to run the app with nobody's permissions14:42
Toasty27I'm having some trouble installing the QXL driver in an Ubuntu VM (12.04.3). I grabbed the xserver-xorg-video-qxl package for Raring since 12.04.3 installs xserver-xorg-core-lts-raring, so the ABI version matches, but dpkg complains that the version of xserver-xorg-core is not >= 2:1.12.99.901. Even though core-lts-raring provides 2:1.13.314:42
Toasty27Has anyone else run into a problem like this?14:43
ikoniasiberiannerd: a work around would be to create a non-pirvileged user, with a locked password so it can't be used, set a valid home directory, lock the permissions on it, and then use "sudo" to run as that user,14:43
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siberiannerdikonia, yeah, i'm on the way currently14:43
siberiannerdi just thought there could be something like suid bit trick or :/14:44
ikoniasiberiannerd: wrong approach,14:45
siberiannerdgot it14:45
siberiannerdmany thanks!14:45
Toasty27Anyone else having trouble installing the QXL video driver?14:46
slshttp://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/Elections/2013/Proposals/ProposalFourFinal.pdf14:46
DJonessls: I think you've got the wrong channel for that14:47
acoliteHey folks. I'm trying to use Unity Tweak Tool to make the Unity launcher only appear on the primary desktop, but every time I make the change and close it, nothing is different -- it still appears on all desktop screens, causing the mouse to drag horribly between screens.14:50
acoliteWhen I open Unity Tweak Tool again, it is still in the previous configuration, not even having changed there.14:51
acoliteWhat can I do to ensure the launcher only appears on the primary desktop?14:52
r6xualhello all. would anyone have some time to help me with a radeon HD5450 driver install issue? I ran through this process https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but catn seem to get my second card (same model) to work14:56
r6xualPM is fine14:56
thomson112is Linux Live Usb Creator good for creating a bootable flash drive for ubuntu 13.10?14:57
nicholas_gcc photomanager.c -o photo `pkg-config --cflags --libs clutter-1.0`. how do i add gdk-pixbuf to the dependencies?15:02
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goldstarhey guys, how do I enable special fx for saucy /15:03
goldstar?15:03
MonkeyDustgoldstar  in KDE: alt-shift F1215:03
goldstarMonkeyDust, doesnt do anything15:04
MonkeyDustgoldstar  is it KDE, or Unity, or soemthing else?15:05
r6xualhey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working15:05
r6xuali only see display:0 and screen 0 and 115:05
goldstarMonkeyDust, unity15:06
zerocircleis SDL2 comes in ubuntu15:08
auronandace!find sdl2 | zerocircle15:09
ubottuzerocircle: Found: libsdl2-2.0-0, libsdl2-dbg, libsdl2-dev, libsdl2-image-2.0-0, libsdl2-image-dbg, libsdl2-image-dev, libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0, libsdl2-mixer-dbg, libsdl2-mixer-dev, libsdl2-net-2.0-0 (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sdl2&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all15:09
zerocirclemeans it comes :)15:09
zerocircleauronandace,15:09
r6xualhey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working15:14
r6xuali only see display:0 and screen 0 and 115:14
joosseethere is a list somewhere on ubuntu.com of JUST wireless adapters that work with the installers? does anyone know thelink?15:17
Xat`I'm using thousands of ldap user entries15:18
extremelyanonrymhi15:18
extremelyanonrymany buddy is there15:19
Xat`I have thousands of ldap user entries and I'm able to get them with "getent passwd" but this is very slow15:19
wyldejoossee: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS/ may be of interest.15:19
Xat`so when i'm trying to authenticate with ldap user, I get a timeout15:19
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tacotruck123Hello, how can I mount a lvm2 file system on ubuntu. Do I need to install some packages first?15:20
nopcalli just remove librhythmbo-core7 ,  will it harmful for my system?15:20
extremelyanonrymhey can anyone help me out15:20
MonkeyDustextremelyanonrym  start with a question15:21
extremelyanonrymthank bro15:21
extremelyanonrymhow to set monitor mode15:21
extremelyanonrymin backtrack15:22
bazhang!wifi | extremelyanonrym have a read first15:22
ubottuextremelyanonrym have a read first: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs15:22
joosseewylde, ty. the one i am thinking of is actually a shortlist with descriptions and contains a set of yes/nos forwether they work in the installer, in the OS, and the tweaking required...15:22
Sovngardeon a NIC?15:22
bazhangextremelyanonrym, thats not supported here, try #backtrack-linux15:22
MonkeyDustextremelyanonrym  backtrack is not supported here15:22
extremelyanonrymmeans15:23
bazhangextremelyanonrym, /join #backtrack-linux   this is ubuntu support only , not backtrack15:23
extremelyanonrymk got it thanks bro15:23
joosseewylde, found it ty\15:24
joossee12.04 is natty narwal right?15:24
joosseeshit precise penguin15:24
joosseemy bad15:24
auronandace!12.04 | joossee15:25
ubottujoossee: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120415:25
joossee!pangolin | joossee15:25
ubottujoossee, please see my private message15:25
r6xualhey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working15:25
r6xuali only see display:0 and screen 0 and 115:25
joosseewylde; when I look at the HW compatibilitylists for a manufacvturer, say Dlink, there are three columns: supports network install, supported in installed system, works out of the box. Which of these catagories might best indicate if the adapter works during the ubuntu installer?15:27
joosseewylde; im guess the 1st and third columns?15:28
wyldejoossee: I think that would be a fair assumption.15:30
Helsinkiiihi guys15:30
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HelsinkiiiI opened my Thunderbird this morning to find all my IMAP inbox empty15:31
Helsinkiiiat the same time, I went over my disk quota ... did that cause my emails to disappear?15:31
wagonboiI keep getting locked out from my ubuntu box by Fail2ban and denyhosts, but I can't whitelist my IP because it changes about every day. What free DNS service can i set up on my windows machine so that I can set it's address in the whitelist and not be blocked anymore?15:32
joosseewylde; many places it says I may need to flash the firmware for the USB but im not sure i understand theprocess? can i flash the firmware of the USB adapter on any OS? oris this a ubuntu specific thing?15:32
wagonboiDynDNS use to offer a free service, but they discontinued it and now I don't know what is available15:32
wyldejoossee: I've personally never had to do that. I have no experience with it.15:33
acoliteHey folks. I'm trying to use Unity Tweak Tool to make the Unity launcher only appear on the primary desktop, but every time I make the change and close it, nothing is different -- it still appears on all desktop screens, causing the mouse to drag horribly between screens.15:34
acoliteWhen I open Unity Tweak Tool again, it is still in the previous configuration, not even having changed there.15:34
acoliteWhat can I do to ensure the launcher only appears on the primary desktop?15:34
Helsinkiiianyone want to hazard a guess as to whether or not my going over my webserver quota made all my IMAP emails vanish?15:36
joosseeHelsinkiii, id wager you misconfigured your mail client15:37
Helsinkiiijoossee, last night they were there, this morning i got a disk quota overage email to my secondary email and all my IMAP emails were gone15:37
joosseeHelsinkiii, ok ... what makes this a ubuntu problem exactly? your using a hosted server yes?15:38
Helsinkiiijoossee, yes. which runs Ubuntu. wasn't sure where to ask, but if it's not here I'll gladly go away15:39
ActionParsnipacolite: did you try logging off and on?15:39
joosseeHelsinkiii, well it just seems that your providerwouldbe abletoanswer this question a lotmore accurately than us speculating...?15:39
Helsinkiiijoossee, yeah, they're AWOL as they usually are and I'm dying to get a phone number of someone I need to call in about an hour15:40
joosseeHelsinkiii, ok cuz a disk quote problem generally the mail server will bounce the message with a quote error....?15:40
joosseequota error15:40
joosseenot just delete allyourmail15:40
acoliteActionParsnip, I haven't tried that -- you mean while the external display is still connected?15:40
acoliteI will update you when I do.15:41
thomson112do i need a swap partition if i have 4gb ram?15:41
joosseeHelsinkiii, might bepossible an attacker exploited a flaw in your IMAP to flood your server...do you have a lotofenemies?15:41
joosseethomi_, yes15:41
joosseethomson112, yes15:41
ActionParsnipacolite: after you make the change to the settings15:41
thomson112ok15:41
auronandacethomson112: if you want to hibernate then yes15:41
Helsinkiiijoossee, haha no but apparently my service provider has been hit with a lot of crap lately15:41
thomson112same rule apply with 2x the amount of ram?15:41
joosseeHelsinkiii, ya cuz your email wont disappear unless you have set the client to do so,,,?15:42
thomson112so an 8gb swap?15:42
joosseethomson112, no 4gb15:42
auronandacethomson112: no, just needs to be bigger than ram (2x would be a waste)15:42
thomson112ok15:42
joosseehey on that note... myserver has 32 GB of ram.. do I need a swapfile?15:42
acoliteActionParsnip, right after I make the change to settings, I open up unity tweak and it shows nothing changed, so I'm not sure how logging out will help... but I will try it.15:43
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Helsinkiiijoossee, thanks for the advice15:45
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Space_Nerdgente eu to com um problema eu uso kali linux no meu notebook e quando eu coloco um mouse usb ele funciona por pouco ai ele para15:46
Space_Nerdai tenho que tirar e colocalo novamente..15:47
MonkeyDust!it15:47
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:47
x_roottente ubuntu-br15:47
auronandaceSpace_Nerd: kali is not supported here15:47
x_roothe speaks portuguese xD15:47
MonkeyDustoops, it's portugese15:47
MonkeyDustx_root  yeah, saw it too late15:47
joosseeHelsinkiii, np. hope you find all your mail!15:47
Helsinkiiijoossee, i hope one day my mail finds me15:47
x_rootMonkeyDust, no problem it happens15:47
acoliteActionParsnip, it didn't work.15:48
acoliteI open Unity Tweak, change it to show launcher only on primary desktop, log out, back in and it's exactly the same.15:48
acoliteStill shows on every desktop.15:48
acoliteI open it, change, close, open it again and it still shows I didn't change it.15:48
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MonkeyDustacolite  screen/display or virtual desktop?15:49
acoliteMonkeyDust, physical displays. I'm trying to have the launcher only show on the primary (so my mouse doesn't stick horribly trying to go between them)15:50
Guest38073ciao!15:50
acoliteMonkeyDust, but after changing it in Unity Tweak, I can see nothing different, and re-opening Unity Tweak reveals the same setting as before I tried to change it.15:50
ActionParsnipacolite: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue15:50
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Guest38073list15:51
acoliteActionParsnip, "Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l"15:51
acoliteThis is on a freshly installed Ubuntu 13.10 installation. I may be downgrading to 13.04 again because 13.10 does not seem to support the 3-monitor setup I had in 13.04, but that's a separate issue.15:51
acoliteThis is more pertinent :)15:51
ActionParsnipacolite: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107583/how-can-i-remove-duplicate-second-unity-launcher-on-a-dual-screen-setup15:51
ActionParsnipacolite: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131868/how-do-i-remove-the-launcher-from-my-second-monitor-display15:52
acoliteActionParsnip, That is perfect, thank you... I must have simply forgotten that this is where this was set, not in Tweak Tool.15:53
acoliteActionParsnip, *hugs* :P15:53
joosseeActionParsnip, i tried adding my CDROM as a repo but now I get errors in apt-get saying redundant sources...?15:53
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acoliteActionParsnip, MonkeyDust do either of you think you might be able to help with this issue that I've documented on the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218578415:54
xanguahi everyone, after I upgraded ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stop being recognized; any suggestion on this issue¿15:54
MonkeyDustacolite  no, can't help sorry15:55
bgamariHow does pulseaudio get started in a modern Ubuntu environment?15:57
thneehow the heck do you turn off that annoying drum sound playing on alert windows??15:57
jhutchinsjoossee: That's because you have more than one source with the same repo on it.15:57
bgamariThe process appears to be owned by me yet has init as its parent15:57
gordonjcpthnee: up to the volume icon, bring up sound preferences, somewhere in there you'll find a thing to mute alert sounds15:58
jhutchinsjoossee: That's what "redundant" means.15:58
joosseejhutchins, so i needto comment out the similar sources?15:58
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bgamariI can kill it and it is restarted by someone15:58
jhutchinsjoossee: I don't think apt has the ability to weight them, so yes.15:58
thneegordonjcp: no, alert sounds in sound preferences is not it15:59
gordonjcpthnee: yes, it is15:59
gordonjcpbgamari: what exactly are you trying to do?15:59
thneegordonjcp: Is it you or me who is using my computer?15:59
ActionParsnipjoossee: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get update15:59
gordonjcpthnee: well, you're doing something odd then15:59
bgamarigordonjcp, I'm trying to determine why pulseaudio isn't present on my session debus15:59
bgamaridbus*15:59
bgamariI'm loading the module-dbus-protocol module in /etc/pulse/default.pa16:00
gordonjcpthnee: is this in Ubuntu?16:00
thneegordonjcp: obviously16:00
gordonjcpthnee: I'm looking at it right now16:00
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gordonjcpthnee: turning off the checkbox stops alert sounds16:01
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gordonjcpthnee: is it possibly a specific app that is making funny noises?16:01
ActionParsnipacolite: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried Lubuntu 13.10 as Gnome based Ubuntu 13.10 ships with XMir instead of Xorg (if memory serves) and may be causing the issue16:01
auronandaceActionParsnip: i thought xmir was postponed16:01
thneegordonjcp: firefox resubmit form alert question windows16:02
thneegordonjcp: goes badumdum16:02
ActionParsnipauronandace: cant fully remember16:02
popeyindeed, xmir didnt ship by default in 13.1016:02
ActionParsnipahh I see16:02
ActionParsnipthanks16:02
acoliteActionParsnip, bugs reported as in something generated on my system, or something in launchpad?16:02
ActionParsnipacolite: tried a differnet DE/WM anyways?16:02
ActionParsnipacolite: like xfce4 ?16:02
acoliteActionParsnip, I would rather not try a different DE, but I've been searching the issue to see if anyone else is suffering it.16:02
gordonjcpthnee: weird, it's not doing it here16:03
ActionParsnipacolite: then you will know if its the DE causing the issue16:03
gordonjcpthnee: you could always find and delete the sample... ;-)16:03
thneegordonjcp: also, unity-tweak-tool wont start, saying schema com.canonical.indicator.sound not installed16:03
giuseppe_ciao16:04
giuseppe_!list16:04
ubottugiuseppe_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:04
bgamarigordonjcp, I take it you don't know what is responsible for starting PulseAudio?16:04
r6xualhey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working16:04
r6xuali only see display:0 and screen 0 and 116:04
gordonjcpbgamari: it's something I should look into16:04
thneegordonjcp: I tried googling that, got nothing16:04
gordonjcpbgamari: I know it respawns constantly because it's a useless crashy piece of weirdness and Lennart couldn't code his way out of a paper bag16:05
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xanguahow can I enable mir on ubuntu 13.10¿ is it smooth¿16:05
gordonjcpbgamari: so whatever starts it, assumes that if the pulseaudio daemon isn't there it has crashed and must be restarted16:05
gordonjcpwhich is just wack16:05
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bgamarigordonjcp, Unfortunately it seems Ubuntu is increasingly reliant on such hacks16:07
bgamariand worse, not documenting them16:07
joosseeActionParsnip, cant pastebin from non connected machine :(16:07
tacotruck123I'm using a live cd to copy files from external hard drive to drobo...where is network smb drive mounted to when you connect to it?16:07
MonkeyDustxangua  better ask in #ubuntu-mir, i guess16:08
tacotruck123running sudo nautilus but dont see any network drive mounted in /media16:08
joosseejournal73newspaper35shinmoon16:08
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MonkeyDusttacotruck123  type   mount     to know where everything is mounted16:10
tacotruck123Okay. Do network drives get mounted?16:10
ikoniatacotruck123: why are you using "sudo" to launch nautlius16:11
tacotruck123because when i try to copy to drobo it says i dont have read access to copy the file.16:11
ikoniatacotruck123: that's a different issue16:12
MonkeyDustwhat's drobo?16:12
greporyI'm trying to install packages from our local deb repo during automated installation, but when I use pkgsel in pre-seed and try to include packages from our local repository, it can't find the packages. Does apt-setup only work for installing packages after installation has completed?16:12
tacotruck123ah just a network smb mount.16:12
ikoniatacotruck123: if you're mounting things with user-specific file systems like "fuse" then you're going to not see them as another user (eg: root when you run sudo)16:12
tacotruck123yep, that is exact issue ikonia.16:13
tacotruck123any work around?16:13
ikoniatacotruck123: ok, so now you understand any how to deal with it16:13
ikoniatacotruck123: "don't use "sudo" "16:13
tacotruck123Let me try. didn't think it would allow me access to read without.16:14
ikoniatacotruck123: you have two seperate issues, deal with them one at a time16:14
joosseeok off tobuy 100' cat5 in the hopes that will solvemy problem16:15
tacotruck123The folder libvirt cannot be handled because you don't have permissions to read it.16:15
ikoniatacotruck123: that is a different situation16:16
ikoniatacotruck123: deal with one at a time16:16
kakakalhello everyone, is there any application for facebook video calling,16:16
kakakali am using ubuntu 12.04 lts16:17
padrinoHi16:17
valeciao16:17
xanguakakakal: no16:17
ActionParsnipkakakal: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6dbYaFSBxY16:17
kakakalthere should be some plugin in pidgin messenger,16:17
vale!list16:17
ubottuvale: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:17
ActionParsnipkakakal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52054/is-it-yet-possible-to-use-facebook-video-chat-without-a-vm16:17
joechenjoin #g0v.tw16:17
padrinoI tried to just the general #linux channel but it wouldn't allow me to type so I have a question I'm going to post here. I'm thinking of buying the Android mini PC or the Pi, what'd be the best distro to run on it considering Ubuntu is a little slow because of the processor?16:17
CatKillerpadrino: Ubuntu16:18
ikoniapadrino: not really appropriate for this channel, try registering on Freenode, and then asking in ##linux16:18
auronandacepadrino: you need a registered nick to talk on ##linux16:18
ikoniaCatKiller: that's just silly advice, as ubuntu doesn't run on the pi16:18
padrinoalright, thanks guys. I'll register now16:18
xanguakakakal: you can use any xmpp client to basic chat https://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php16:19
CatKillerikonia: Sorry I was basing this on my experience with a board that uses practically the same SoC16:19
CatKillerwhich runs fine on Ubuntu16:19
bmcfeei'm still having trouble with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1220684 after upgrading to 13.10. anyone got a lead on a fix?16:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 1220684 in Ubuntu GNOME "pixman_region32_init_rect: Invalid rectangle passed when entering Sound menu in gnome-control-center" [Undecided,New]16:19
ikoniaCatKiller: sadly the pi fails16:19
punehi, i'm using kubuntu 13.10 x64.  up until today, multiarch was working and i was able to run 32bit programs on the 64bit OS.  then the updater came along and crapped on something and broke the multiarch support.16:19
CatKillerikonia: That's a surprise for me, the Marvel boards work fine16:19
punedose anybody happen to know what i should install to fix multiarch support?16:20
tacotruck123ikonia: so how do I mount fuse as root?16:20
CatKillerikonia: A quick google search confirms what you're saying. I'd say they should probably dedicate some ressources to make it work there, there's some potential16:20
kakakalxangua: i don't have any problem with chat, i am looking for video calling other than skype and google hangout16:20
ikoniatacotruck123: the root account is locked, so it's not really the intended approach16:20
tacotruck123So how else do I get read access to copy files over from external drive to network drive?16:21
auronandacekakakal: jitsi?16:21
kakakalauronandace: what is it? jitsi16:22
auronandacekakakal: an alternative to skype16:22
ikoniatacotruck123: what file system is on the external drive ?16:23
kakakalauronandace: no, never tried, hearing first time from you, how good it is, what about call quality on slow internet connections16:23
auronandacekakakal: i've never used it, i'm just aware of it (it uses java if thats an issue for you)16:24
kakakalno, i am using skype for linux, it is working okay, but UI is not that good as compared with windows16:25
tacotruck123ikonia: according to this ubuntu live cd it is cifs16:25
tacotruck123but to mount it I just used the connect to sever and chose smb share and typed username and password.16:25
ikoniatacotruck123: nah, the external drive would not be mounted on cifs - cifs is network file systems16:26
ikoniatacotruck123: that's not an extenral drive, that's a network share16:26
ZeThomashey, i'm trying to get bumblebee and the nvidia drivers running on my laptop, but at the suggestion to run nvidia-xconfig, this file seems nowhere to be found? I tried with installing (sequentially) nvidia-current, nvidia-current-upgrade, and nvidia-319-updates16:26
tacotruck123The external drive is vlm216:26
tacotruck123Think it may come from a redhat box..not sure.16:27
CatKillertacotruck123: lvm2 is not a filesystem16:28
ikoniatacotruck123: what you are saying doesn't make sense, it's either an extenral drive you plug into your computer, or it's on a network16:28
ikoniatacotruck123: which is it16:28
manisabriwindows leave shadow on wallpaper , CCSM-> OpenGL -> Dispable FrameBuffer and problem solved but desktop much slower and no wallpaper , any idea whats going on? ubuntu 13.04 64bit AMD APU HP laptop16:28
CatKillertacotruck123: Paste the output of "mount" in bpaste16:28
CatKillertacotruck123: And make sure both the external drive is plugged in (and hasn't been unmounted or "ejected" from the GUI)16:29
CatKilleras well as the network drive16:29
tacotruck123Sorry, the external drive is ext3. The network drive is cifs. I neet to copy from external to mounted network drive using this ubuntu live cd.16:30
CatKillerCatKiller> tacotruck123: Paste the output of "mount" in bpaste16:30
CatKillerplease16:30
ikoniatacotruck123: and where is the permissions problem, the external drive, or the network drive16:30
kakakal1jitsi seems fine and i will try it someday, i have added it todo list16:31
kakakal1auronandace:skype is well known standard in the world hehehe16:32
tacotruck123Catkiller: http://pastebin.com/RvxVLZP0 ikonia: looks like permissions problem is on external drive as I was able to read/write to network share. I'm able to copy from external drive but I think I need to do it from root since this is a live cd.16:36
lonewulf85Home partition did not mount with ubuntu how to make it mount each time?16:36
tacotruck123I can select copy and when I try to paste it says it can't read even though it lists the directory fine.16:36
CatKillertacotruck123: Is your external hd "sdd"?16:37
CatKillertacotruck123: Or is that "/dev/mapper/VolGroup.."?16:37
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CatKillertacotruck123: In any case, can you run "stat /mnt/*" and paste the output? We can check the permissions that way16:38
tacotruck123Catkiller: yep you are correct it is sdd16:39
CatKillersorry "stat /media/"16:39
CatKillersorry again "stat /media/*"16:39
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tacotruck123CatKiller: Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) to that external.16:44
tacotruck123If I could just mount the network drive as root that would solve all my problems.16:44
CatKillerdoesn't give me the info I need16:44
CatKillernamely the user and group16:44
tacotruck123sec pastebin16:44
tacotruck123CatKiller: http://pastebin.com/46fRthRY16:46
triplchi all16:46
reisiohi triplc16:47
CatKillertacotruck123: Ok so your external HD is mounted as root but it has read permissions set so you should be able to read16:47
oisaBefore 13.10, one had a GUI to change key mappings, e.g., CTRL is an extra ESCAPE. How can I do this easily in 13.10?16:47
CatKillertacotruck123: Can you try to "cp" a file to "/tmp" and paste the error16:47
triplcHi. How to select between gnash/adobe-flash when both are installed ?16:47
triplcHi. How to select between gnash/adobe-flash when both are installed ? (i am using 12.04)16:47
CatKillertacotruck123: If that works, try to "cp" a file to the network drive and paste the error there16:47
CatKillertacotruck123: use "cp" from the terminal16:47
CatKiller!cp | tacotruck12316:47
CatKillerthat doesn't work?16:48
CatKiller"cp /media/...../file destination"16:48
xanguatriplc: disable manually one of the plugins in your browser and restart it i guess, i would only use one16:49
triplcxangua: oh, thanks16:49
familiaubuntu16:49
familiairon euben trullo16:50
Zaq_по русски тут говорит кто?16:56
bekks!ru | Zaq_16:56
ubottuZaq_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.16:56
bobbiesaphi, what's the easiest way to migrate from evolution (maildir) to thunderbird ? I found some instructions but they either dont work (for maildir) or are too complicated for me16:56
reisiobobbiesap: check kb.mozillazine.org16:57
Zaq_не авторизирует на ubuntu-ru. пароль требует. чтоб простой вопрос задать головняка столько....16:58
MonkeyDust!ru16:58
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.16:58
Zaq_днем весь мозг вынес то ему мыло то подтверди. сейчас все по новой.16:58
tacotruck123catkiller: undadmin@undubuntu:/media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01$ cp home /media/7C8C88828C88392216:58
tacotruck123cp: omitting directory `home'16:58
CatKillertacotruck123: Where is the error message you mentionned earlier16:59
CatKillerabout not being able to read?16:59
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CatKilleranyways you tried to cp a directory16:59
tacotruck123That comes up when I copy and paste through nautilus16:59
CatKillercp a file insteadf16:59
CatKillerok16:59
bobbiesapHow To Migrate From Evolution To Thunderbird In Ubuntu Intrepid  describes how to migrate the mail, calender, tasks and address book. It  was written when Evolution defaulted to using mbox files, just like  Thunderbird does. Evolution 3.2.0 and later uses maildir files. If you  created your Evolution profile using a version that defaulted to maildir  you will need to use a tool to convert maildir files into mbox fi16:59
CatKilleror use "cp -r" to copy entire directories16:59
Zaq_дайте команду авторизации.17:00
bekks!ru | Zaq_17:00
ubottuZaq_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:00
bobbiesapreisio: i am not sure how to proceed with maildirarc or maildir2mbox17:00
Zaq_ /join #ubuntu-ru - HREN!17:00
bobbiesapreisio: what must i do exatcly?17:01
Zaq_ #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services17:01
tacotruck123CatKiller: admin@undubuntu:/media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01/home$ cd matt17:01
tacotruck123bash: cd: matt: Permission denied17:01
kostkon!register | ZadYree17:01
ubottuZadYree: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:01
kostkonoops17:01
kostkon!register | Zaq_17:01
ubottuZaq_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:01
lonewulf85I forgot to tell me Ubuntu to use a previous /home partition as my current home help please.17:01
Zaq_ #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services17:01
TheLordOfTimeZaq_, you need to register your nickname,17:01
kostkonZaq_, ^^17:02
TheLordOfTime!register > Zaq_17:02
ubottuZaq_, please see my private message17:02
reisiobobbiesap: probably have man pages or --help info17:02
TheLordOfTimeZaq_, read the private message Gribble just sent you it gives you links to explain things17:02
Zaq_i am register!17:02
familiano17:02
bekksZaq_: you are not registered.17:02
bobbiesapreisio: which is easier between the two?17:02
reisiobobbiesap: no idea17:02
familiannO17:02
Zaq_i am email verefi17:02
deper29I like to use man pages17:02
kostkonactually ns info says he/she actually is17:03
bobbiesapreisio: ok, will try, thqnks17:03
tacotruck123CatKiller: This would be easily fixed if I could mount network drive as root and then sudo nautilus from external to network drive.17:03
CatKillertacotruck123: The opposite actually17:03
kostkonZaq_, you need to identify yourself first:  /ns identify yourpassword17:04
CatKillertacotruck123: Anyways: "stat matt"17:04
CatKillertacotruck123: You are lacking permissions to access a specific directory from your external drive, that's all17:04
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tacotruck123stat matt?17:04
kostkonZaq_, do that in the freenode tab, not here17:04
zee_no matter what I try, I can not change the keyboard input from US to e.g. danish17:04
bekkstacotruck123: dont sudo nautilus, use gkse instead.17:04
bekks!sudo | tacotruck12317:04
ubottutacotruck123: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo17:04
CatKillertacotruck123: You can change permissions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions17:05
zykotick9!gksudo | tacotruck12317:05
ubottutacotruck123: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:05
lonewulf85set ubuntu to use old /home partition in current isntall17:05
zee_ive managed to change the system default language.. Ive edited the user .profile.. everything.. But i cant change keyboard input..17:05
zee_What should I do?17:05
zykotick9lonewulf85: edit /etc/fstab17:05
matziehi, 13.10, Behringer UCA-222 usb sound, want 5.1 over optical but no surround profile listed in pacucontrol.  Totally lost, any pointers please?17:06
lonewulf85zykotick9, Is that all no cp /dev/sda1/home needed?17:06
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matzie*pavucontrol17:06
zykotick9lonewulf85: sure that's an option as well...17:06
zykotick9lonewulf85: well, you obviously can't copy from the /dev directory like that, but mount it to /mnt then copy away...17:07
lonewulf85zykotick9, So something like this /dev/sda2 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2 added to /etc/fstab17:07
zee_anyone?17:08
zykotick9lonewulf85: looks about right...17:08
lonewulf85so i do need the UUID of the old partition?17:08
zykotick9lonewulf85: using LABELS is best, then UUID, dev names SHOULD be avoided.17:08
tacotruck123catkiller: sudo chmod 777 -R or do I use 755?17:08
bekkstacotruck123: You dont use -R normally.17:09
bekkstacotruck123: Whats the directory you want to change the permissions?17:09
lonewulf85okay thanks17:09
vov__zee_, go to System Settings > Keyboard > Input Sources or something like that17:09
zee_vov, tried it. I only see US language. Not the other languages installed in the system.17:10
tacotruck123bekks, /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe0117:10
CatKillertacotruck123: "sudo chown user:group" maybe instead17:10
vov__zee_, there should be a '+' icon on the bottom17:11
CatKillerif that external HD is only used on your machine17:11
zee_yes17:11
bekkstacotruck123: sudo chown youruser:yourgroup /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe0117:11
bekkstacotruck123: Thats all you need.17:11
CatKilleror else use a user that's likely to be the default user everywhere17:11
zee_vov__: yes, but theres no languages to add17:11
vov__Use that to install new layouts17:11
tacotruck123no idea what group is.17:11
CatKillerbekks: Yes but here it's a directory within that directory that's problematic17:12
bekkstacotruck123: The main group your user is in.17:12
bekksCatKiller: ?17:12
bekkstacotruck123: Pastebin "id" please, run it as your current user.17:12
vov__Weird when I do it I see a lot of languages17:12
lzjqsddhi17:13
lzjqsdd新手刚过来17:14
CatKillerbekks: That command will change the perms for one directory and he actually is trying to copy a directory within that directory which itself has no permissions set17:14
MonkeyDust!cn | lzjqsdd17:14
ubottulzjqsdd: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw17:14
tacotruck123bekks, http://pastebin.com/FryL9JHv17:14
bekkstacotruck123: And which directory inside /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01 has no permissions to be copied?17:15
lonewulf85I need to look at someones /etc/fstab that is using a separate /home partition could someone toss in a pastebin link to it please?17:15
tacotruck123bekks, I need to copy everything so might as well change permissions for everything.17:15
BlueFalcon2872Hey, I was looking for some help with getting virtual box running automatically upon reboot so I can feed it into cuckoo. There are two routes that I see presently, the first is a sudo ifconfig vboxnet0 192.168.56.1, however this doesn't keep when you reboot... the second is to start up a VM and then turn around and stop it. Both of these routes work if done manually, but one seems really clumsy (basically would have to sleep the syst17:16
ActionParsnipBlueFalcon2872: add them in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line17:16
bekkstacotruck123: You are making things more complicated than needed. Either you use gksudo nautilus and you can copy everything, or you just chown everything to your user. No need for chmod.17:17
MonkeyDustlonewulf85  UUID=e4e3877b-bc56-4b59-931d-7c3de52b7db8 /home           ext4    defaults        0       217:17
lonewulf85MonkyDust, thanks a bunch17:17
Zaq_help register my nickname...17:17
ActionParsnip!register17:17
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode17:17
Zaq_!register17:18
bgardnerZaq_: She doesn't like to repeat herself.17:18
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BlueFalcon2872ActionParsnip: does this file execute with normal user rights then?17:18
ActionParsnipBlueFalcon2872: as root, but you can use su to run as any user you desire17:19
BlueFalcon2872as opposed to say init.d somescript17:19
BlueFalcon2872cause I think that may have been the problem lol, I was trying to sort out some complicated init.d method lol17:19
Zaq_In order to complete your registration, you must send the following17:20
Zaq_command on IRC:17:20
Zaq_Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!17:20
BlueFalcon2872in the order of execution upon booting, does init.d execute all startup services first, and then it runs rc.local?17:20
Zaq_#ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services17:21
thanielPlHey, when i try to set up a VPN in 13.10 i get  only the option to do this by adding a config file(no forms available). And even with a config file i get an "unknown error". what could have caused this?17:23
MonkeyDustthanielPl  did you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN17:23
SemajnadWhat chmod parameter can I use to give permissions on all files in a folder, but not folders and not recursive.17:25
tacotruck123looks like gksudo nautilus can pick up network share drive...looks to have solved my issue.17:25
tacotruck123Thanks.17:25
thanielPlMonkeyDust, yeah i installed all of them. when i try to connect via openvpn on the console it works with the same config17:25
bekksSemajnad: sudo chown myuser:mygroup *17:25
tacotruck123not sure how gksudo nautilus is different than sudo nautilus17:25
bekksSemajnad: or better use find . -type f ...17:26
bekkstacotruck123: sudo on graphical applications breaks things.17:26
bekks!gksudo tacotruck12317:26
bekkshmm.17:26
Semajnadbekks: Yes, they are in the group, but the group needs it's permissions changed for all the files in that folder.17:26
bekks!gksudo | tacotruck12317:26
ubottutacotruck123: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)17:26
andryfind . -type f -name '*' -maxdepth 1 -exec chmod 777 {}17:26
Semajnadbekks: So i've got root:thenetwork, thenetwork needs read write and execute permissions on all files in the folder usr00117:26
lonewulf85anyone know what res the login screen needs to be for Ubuntu 12.04?17:26
andryfor find17:26
ActionParsniptacotruck123: sudo doesnt setup the environment and you can mangle the ownership of fles in $HOME for your user, preventing use of sudo at all17:26
bekksSemajnad: Because...? You are the owner then, you can do whatever you want with the files.17:26
GeorgesLeYetiHi17:27
ActionParsniplonewulf85: do you mean the wallpaper?17:27
bekksandry: thats the worst approach possible.17:27
Semajnadbekks: But lets say the owner is root, and the group ownership is thenetwork, doesn't it need to be say rwxrwxr-- so the group can r w and x17:27
bekksandry: without a good reason, you dont all users being able to modify your files.17:27
GeorgesLeYetiI have a problem i wanna rename my user account so i used this tutorial: http://www.unixmen.com/how-rename-change-user-name-linux/17:28
GeorgesLeYetiIt seems to works17:28
andrybekks .. i was just pointing out how to chmod all files, not recursive, no folders17:28
bekksSemajnad: No. For files, you only need 0664 then, and not 0774.17:28
lonewulf85well the login screen wallpaper. I want to change it and I am unsure about the res I think it is 468X800 or something small.17:28
Semajnadisn't 6 only r + w?17:28
bekksandry: You were pointing out on how to make all files modifiable by everyone.17:28
ActionParsniplonewulf85: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm17:28
GeorgesLeYetibut then i try to reinstall rvm with curl ...17:28
ubuntuuserhappyhello17:28
ActionParsnipSemajnad: yes r + w = 617:28
bekksSemajnad: Sure. You dont need x on files, unless they are executables.17:28
andrybekks, again, i was pointing out how to chmod all files, no folders, recursive .. this was an example17:29
andry777 as place-holder17:29
andryokay?17:29
lonewulf85ActionParsnip, Thanks and cool name although I dislike parsnips :)17:29
Semajnadbekks:  Yes they are, so my question is, if the ownership of the folder usr001 is root:thenetwork, and I need thenetwork to have rwx permissions, what chmod command can I use to change all files in usr001 to rwxrwxr--17:29
ubuntuuserhappyim having an issue with nautilus (at least i think it is nautilus) im not getting it to display applications when i select properties and then open with17:29
GeorgesLeYetiand it says that the path of my previous user is protected why ? I mean why did he kept the name and path of my previous user and it didn't completly change the informations.17:29
bekksSemajnad: then use 077517:30
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maujhsnI am running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB and have not solved shutdown issues! HELP!17:30
Semajnadbekks: Yes, but instead of doing it individually for all files, what command will do it for all files in that folder I mean.17:30
bekksSemajnad: the command was already given.17:30
ubuntuuserhappyim running on 13.10, and the application has a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications17:30
Semajnadbekks: I know I could use chmod 775 file1, chmod 775 file2, but is there a way to do it for all files in that folder at once, rather then individually.17:31
bekksSemajnad: The command for doing it on all files was already given.17:31
ubuntuuserhappysemajnad: just do chmod 775 *17:31
Semajnadubuntuuserhappy: Thank you ubuntuuserhappy17:31
bekksubuntuuserhappy: That will catch all directories too, which is unwanted.17:32
bekksSemajnad: Do not do that.17:32
Semajnadbekks:  I can't see where it was given, unless I'm missing it.17:32
rypervencheSemajnad: You should do a find command like...17:32
bekksSemajnad: anry gave you a find ... command.17:32
rypervencheSemajnad: find . -mindepth 1 -type f -exec chmod 775 {} \;17:32
Semajnadrypervenche: And i run that in the folder I want to change all the files to?17:32
rypervencheSemajnad: Make sure you're cd'ed into the correct directory though.17:32
ubuntuuserhappysemajnad: if you dont want dirrectories to change use the one from ryper17:32
Semajnadrypervenche: , ubuntuuserhappy , bekks Thank you very much.17:33
rypervencheSemajnad: Otherwise, you can change the . to the actual directory name and it will work from anywhere.17:33
maujhsnAny users here in chat an expert with xchat in linux?17:33
Semajnadrypervenche: Awesome, thanks, that's helped loads :)17:33
bekks!anyone | maujhsn17:33
ubottumaujhsn: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.17:33
geniiGeorgesLeYeti: The usermod commands given in that tutorial do not have the -a switch meaning "append" the group or name. So what happened is that whatever group or name you used in the commands is now the ONLY group or name the username belongs to17:34
bazhangmaujhsn, try #xchat17:34
_Zaq!ru17:35
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:35
maujhsnbazhang Thanks!17:35
bazhang_Zaq, join #freenode for help with registering17:35
RudyValenciaHi, how do I change the home directory path for AD users in likewise-open 6.0?17:36
fengshaun_hi all, where are windows shares automounted in ubuntu?17:37
GeorgesLeYetigenii: is there any way to fix this ?17:37
fengshaun_so I can access them in terminal17:37
fengshaun_I can't find anything in the output of 'mount' and neither in /mnt nor /media17:37
reisiofengshaun_: then they aren't mounted17:38
fengshaun_reisio: but I can access them in nautilus and browse17:38
geniiGeorgesLeYeti: It is a case now of where you need to access the system from recovery boot and manually add the groups back to the user17:38
bekksfengshaun_: Then they are mounted using gvfs.17:38
reisiofengshaun_: they might be mounted after you do that17:38
fengshaun_bekks: where do I find the mount point?17:38
bekksfengshaun_: BAsically nowhere.17:38
fengshaun_bekks: oh...17:39
serpicolista film17:39
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maujhsnIs there a separate channel in ubuntu dedicated to "network-manager" issues?17:40
syeekickAsus CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA 890FX Socket AM3 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard   is this motherboard any good for running linux? along side the 290x ati carD?17:40
bekks!it > bekks17:42
ubottubekks, please see my private message17:42
maujhsnubottu Is there a separate channel in freenode  dedicated to "network-manager" issues?17:43
ubottumaujhsn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:43
Zaq_what is this - "Please log in before attempting to verify your registration." ?17:44
geniiGeorgesLeYeti: So you boot to recovery, choose console login. Issue: mount -a -o remount,rw     ..and then: usermod -a G adm,dialout,cdrom,sudo,plugdev,users,lpadmin  <the-username>  ( this assumes the username is the one which was first made and had uid of 1000 and sudo/admin priveleges)17:44
bazhangZaq_, join #freenode17:44
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bazhangZaq_, /join #freenode17:45
jasonlfunkI just did a fresh install of 12.04 on a new server. Curl/Wget are failing to verify Verisign certificates. I've tried running c_rehash, update-ca-certificates, etc and nothing seems to work. Does anyone know how to fix this?17:46
Zaq_" /msg NickServ identify <password>" wrote - "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Zaq_ kfrzzzzzzzz" - answer - "Please log in before attempting to verify your registration."17:47
GeorgesLeYetigenii: ok ty.17:47
geniiGeorgesLeYeti: I forgot the - before the G in that command, apologies17:47
geniiGeorgesLeYeti: So it would be usermod -a -G <etc...?17:48
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LjLZaq_: *first* you need to "/msg nickserv identify yourpassword", and *then* do the "verify register" thing17:49
compdochttp://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Linux-Kerrnel-3-12-in-Ubuntu-13-10-397013.shtml17:50
Zaq_Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!17:50
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ninjahattorihi, which css file controls gnome appearance? i'm trying to modify the headerbars but dunno where to start17:51
Zaq_" -NickServ- Invalid password for Zaq_."17:51
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wadWhat's a good way to cause my CPU to be heavily used for a while?17:57
wadWanting to try some power tests.17:57
ActionParsnipwad: mencoder17:58
reisiowad: power tests?17:58
wadYeah, want to burn the cpus and watch what happens.17:58
wadFanks kicking on, battery usage, etc.17:58
wadlooking at stress.17:59
ActionParsnipwad: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/stress.1.html18:00
wadAh, stress is what I needed.18:00
wad:) thanks!18:00
wadstress -c 418:00
ActionParsnip!info stress18:00
ubottustress (source: stress): A tool to impose load on and stress test a computer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB18:00
wadsweet18:00
ActionParsnipwad: found that using The Internet.....18:00
wadMe too.18:00
Bonsonhallo zusammen18:01
wadI did a google search, didn't immediately come up with gold, so I asked here, then continued to look online.18:01
ubuntuuserhappyi need some help getting an application to be recognized as a possible default application for a file type18:01
ubuntuuserhappythis is for a 13.10 system18:01
ubuntuuserhappyif anyone things they could help it would be appriciated18:02
ubuntuuserhappy*appreciated18:02
chemistHi everyone... i've got a silly problem which is not actually ubuntu-related .. but more hardware related18:02
MonkeyDustubuntuuserhappy  right click on the file, open with, 'always use this'18:02
chemistcan i ask for advice anyway? :)18:02
bazhangchemist, ##hardware has a channel18:03
MonkeyDustchemist  if you're sweet18:03
Bonsonwürde als ubuntu 12.04 anfänger hilfe brauchen (ubuntu 12.04 usbdatenkabel xp sp3pc verbinden)18:03
MonkeyDust!de18:03
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!18:03
chemistI've got an "old" computer which won't start when i press the power-on button.... but if i heat it up with a heater for about 10-15 minutes it turns on :)18:03
chemist(when i press the button)18:03
Bonsonthanks18:03
chemistI tried looking at the cables on the back side of the power-on button, but everything seems to be ok18:04
gimmicchemist: that is stereotypical of a cold solder issue18:04
ubuntuuserhappymonkeyoust: yes, the problem is getting the application to show up in the list of available applications18:05
chemistmy guess is that a random cable is somewhere exposed (not isolated) and it absorbs water...when i heat it up, the water evaporates and there is current flowing again18:05
chemistgimmic what's that?18:05
chemista bad solding point?18:06
chemistok probable .. but where?18:06
serpico!list18:06
ubottuserpico: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:06
chemistgimmic in the power supply?18:06
chemistsomewhere on the mb18:07
ubuntuuserhappymonkeydust:  yes, the problem is getting the application to show up in the list of available applications, and 13.10 is different from what ever you are recomending, the always use is buried in preferneces for the file18:07
gimmicin wherever you're heating it up18:07
chemistthe heater is pretty big18:07
chemistit's heating the whole side of the computer box18:07
ubuntuuserhappyis anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?18:08
geniichemist: I think you would probably get more appropriate help for your issue in the ##hardware channel18:08
chemistgenii just joined... thanks18:08
geniichemist: Good luck!18:08
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ubuntuuserhappyanyone good with nautilus or really familiar with how default applications are set and configured? need help with 13.1018:14
templercan anyone help? installed xubuntu 12.04 for my parents and they love it compared to their windows experience however installed evolution for email as its closer to what they are used to and want but it isnt printing to our network printer lexmark t640. most programs print no problem had an issue with the default pdf viewer not printing either but installed acrobat reader and it prints now.... anyone have any ideas.... is this a gnome issue seeing evolutio18:15
templern is not native to xfce... still cannot find a way to get evolution to print after much searching18:15
Ubuntubruger5hello i have a question about software installing on a XBMCubunto machine18:16
goldstarI have installed saucy, it takes like 5 min for it to resolve to the network whenever I startup the PC18:16
Ubuntubruger5wah i need is to install ethool on my Zotac Zbox ID11 with XBMCubunto, is this possible ?18:17
OkitainUbuntubruger5: depends on whether you have console.18:19
Ubuntubruger5oki don't know what you mean sorry, but i was hoping it was possible to install it from my terminal on my macbook18:20
Ubuntubruger5is this possible and could you help me please ;)18:23
OkitainUbuntubruger5: can you somehow run some sort of a terminal application on the XBMCbuntu?18:23
cgosgreetings18:24
Ubuntubruger5sorry i don't know im total newbe18:24
cgosby change any idea why "if [! -f "file.txt"]  would throw a "command not found" in bash?18:24
Ubuntubruger5i had a friend back in time who installed some application to my xbmcubunto via my macbook18:25
Palmertreehowdy18:26
cpinedhello, I have an issue with virtual box and Mint as the guest OS...When I start Mint from my windows host and connect via RDP from my Ununtu desktop the log in flow start off ok but then the guest OS appears on the windows lap top and not in the RDP session...this only happens with Mint18:26
genii!mintsupport | cpined18:26
ubottucpined: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org18:26
cpinedthanks18:27
ubuntuuserhappy is anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?18:27
templercan anyone help? installed xubuntu 12.04 for my parents and they love it compared to their windows experience however installed evolution for email as its closer to what they are used to and want but it isnt printing to our network printer lexmark t640. most programs print no problem had an issue with the default pdf viewer not printing either but installed acrobat reader and it prints now.... anyone have any ideas.... is this a gnome issue seeing evolutio18:33
templern is not native to xfce... still cannot find a way to get evolution to print after much searching18:33
ActionParsnipEminentDomain: did you install the Lexmark driver from the Lexmark site? They do make drivers for some of their products18:33
templerwill try that agin but didnt help last time18:35
templermost applications can print to it but just evolution and evince i think18:35
templerso makes me think its not a lexmark driver issue18:35
templerevolution and evince cannot18:36
flash_Hi guys. I'm having some strange trouble with my laptop. It's a core i7, so 64 bit, and as far as I can recall I installed 64 bit Ubuntu. Today I downloaded a 64 bit setup for Qt and it wouldn't install, saying "Cannot execute binary file". I then downloaded another program, also in 64 bit and same error. I then tried the 32bit versions of both and they worked. Can someone help me debug this?18:40
ianorlincan you run uname -a from the terminal |18:41
ianorlinflash_18:41
flash_Linux staple 3.12.0-1-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 29 18:42:35 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux18:41
xanguaflash_: looks like 32 bit18:41
x_rootprobably, in settings>details appears if is 32 or 64 bit, right?18:42
flash_Ah yes, I see it now. It thinks it's 32 bit.18:42
ObrienDave64 bit would look something like this: Linux david-vaio 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:43
flash_Is there any way I can change to 64bit without reformatting?18:43
x_roottry to save your files in another partition18:43
xanguaflash_: no18:43
Ari-Yangflash_: uhhh.. so you installed a 64bit ubuntu on a 32?18:43
Ari-Yangflash_: I recommend you just re-install and this time make sure it's 32bit ubuntu...18:43
flash_Ari-Yang, other way around. 32bit on a 64.18:44
Ari-Yangoh18:44
Ari-Yangwell nab a 64bit ubuntu then :b18:44
flash_I suppose I'll have to18:44
flash_Darn18:44
flash_Just as I had everything nicely set up18:44
xanguaflash_: i don't see any issues in using 32bit18:45
ObrienDaveno issues until you want to run a 64bit app. LMAO18:46
flash_heh, indeed.18:47
IsmAvatarHey guys. Recently upgraded to 13.10 and now I'm getting slowness between graphics and the mouse in glxgears and other graphically intensive apps.18:47
flash_Oh well... let the process begin.18:47
flash_Thanks for the help18:47
joosseeIsmAvatar, opensource or proprietary driver?18:47
IsmAvatarproprietary18:47
IsmAvatardesktop won't even show with open source driver18:48
joosseeIsmAvatar, there is much in the forums about this issue... including like 800 ways to install the proper driver.. which have you tired?18:49
ObrienDaveall 799 of them ;)18:49
ActionParsnipIsmAvatar: what video chip(s)?18:49
joosseelol18:49
gendlHi, has anyone seen these major NFS hangs in 12.04, as described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1046285 and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1006446  ?18:49
everaldHello. The "Dash home" has gotten very slow in Ubuntu 13.10, and I notice that the search results that it shows are first internet stuff, then local documents, then programs. Exactly the wrong order, I'd say... it should find programs first. When I hit enter before the programs are displayed, it opens some random other stuff.18:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 1046285 in linux (Ubuntu) "NFS client hang with lots of simultaneous operations" [Medium,Triaged]18:50
ubottuUbuntu bug 879334 in nfs-utils (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1006446 nfsd from nfs-kernel-server very slow and system load from 25%-100% from nfsd" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:50
IsmAvatarCaicos XT Radeon HD 747018:50
ActionParsnipIsmAvatar: no Intel GPU as well?  sudo lshw -C display       will show you18:51
IsmAvatarActionParsnip: it only lists the Radeon 7470.18:52
ActionParsnipIsmAvatar: if you remove then readd the driver, does it help?18:52
IsmAvataryou want me to try resintalling the proprietary driver? I suppose I could give it a shot.18:53
joosseeIsmAvatar, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Saucy_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.2918:53
gendlubottu: I have seen those NFS bug reports, but is there an official workaround or configuration setting to avoid the problem?18:53
ubottugendl: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:53
ghanhass_hello18:53
joosseeIsmAvatar, my understanding is that some ATI drivers just arent availabledue to AMD's policies and you are doomed to shitty specson some cards, notnecessarilyyours18:53
joosseeman i need a new spacebar18:54
IsmAvatarjoossee: would this matter over a 13.04 -> 13.10 upgrade? Because everything was working beautifully before the upgrade.18:54
ubuntu-addictHello. How can I use awk to read 2 files simultaneously. I want to  get the 2 term of 1st line and sum. I tried awk 'NR=1 {A=$1,next}  {B=$1} {print A+B}' file1 file2. But the B is not correct. Any  help?18:55
OxymoronCould someone help me understand this. My router even though firewall was off, blocked only my Ubunut computer in network. Then I accidently found know Computers in firewall and added my computer there. Then suddenly Internet access again. Why does this ONLY happen to Ubuntu and no other OS? Internet was working on the other Windows 8.1 and my iPhone 5.18:55
joosseeIsmAvatar, i run 12.04 so.. i dunno  actionparsnip is the master here18:55
OxymoronI am using latest Ubuntu 13.1018:55
joosseeOxymoron, could be a hundred reasons. you can spoof MAC in ubuntu not in windows and so on..18:56
joosseeOxymoron, is there a question in there somewhere? seems like everything is resolved?18:57
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ubuntuuserhappy is anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?18:57
xangua!anyone | ubuntuuserhappy18:58
ubottuubuntuuserhappy: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:58
joosseeubuntuuserhappy, google knows18:58
Oxymoronjoossee: Well I have been arguing like 100 times with my ISP and complaining about their router. Now it seems to be something with Ubuntu. I would like to know exactly why Ubuntu is blocked and not any other OS.18:58
ubuntuuserhappyjoossee: no google does not know18:58
joosseeOxymoron, dump the isps router or plug your own router into ISPS router\18:58
IsmAvatarjoossee: lol, reading through that page you linked, I realize how old it is by the fact that it references the old Menu18:58
ubuntuuserhappyxangua: because ive asked the question and got nothing with that either, ill try again18:58
joosseeubuntuuserhappy, wanna bet on it?18:58
ubuntuuserhappyjoosee: yep18:59
xanguahi everyone, after I upgraded ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stop being recognized; any suggestion on this issue¿18:59
joossee1 bitcoin sez googleknows18:59
Oxymoronjoossee: Is it somekind of security in Router to automaticly block Linux and Ubuntu devices? This is very weird also, because this block only happens sometimes and if you restart router it freeze the wifi name detection etc.18:59
BluesKaj!google18:59
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.18:59
BluesKajjoossee.^18:59
Oxymoronjoossee: The router system log doesnt help.18:59
ubuntuuserhappyjoossee: you want to see if you can google my problem?19:00
Oxymoronjoossee: Usually this happens ONLY if Transmission start a download, then it kind of get blocked by router and screw around with the network. Sometimes all devices get blocked, but usually only Ubuntu device.19:00
joosseeubuntuuserhappy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/66524/why-cant-i-make-a-file-association-in-nautilus19:00
joosseeubuntuuserhappy, GOOGLE sez us PCmanFM or install tweak19:01
xanguaOxymoron: only if transmission is open¿ maybe too many petitions¿19:01
joosseeubuntuuserhappy, usePCmanFm to set the associations then switch back to nautilus.. or just install tweak19:01
joosseeOxymoron, what xangua said19:02
Oxymoronxanguam, joossee: whats petitions?19:02
joosseeOxymoron, if i remember correctly, windows can use way less open tcp connections then ubuntu so you are likely activaiting a security trigger in your rotuer19:02
semajnad_Does anyone know what this message means in vi when doing :wq " Cannot write viminfo file /home/thenetworkadmin/.viminfo!"19:03
joosseeOxymoron, your router will have some anti flooding parameters setup which may be triggered by ubuntus speed. (simple answer)19:03
Oxymoronjoossee: Which mean Ubuntu is opening up too many TCP connections? :S19:03
joosseeSemajnad, use sudo before launching vmi19:03
joosseevim19:03
joosseeOxymoron, "too many" is a relative term. morelikelyyour isp hates torrent traffic19:04
Oxymoronjoossee: Alright, techiniquans on ISP suck ashole then. They said they didnt have that kind of security in the router.19:04
joosseeSemajnad, u probablydont have write permissions on the file19:04
Oxymoronjoossee: I explicity asked ISP about that, and they said NOT limits.19:04
Oxymoronjoossee: I presume the CIO didnt tell them or something ....19:05
joosseeOxymoron, honestlybro, ditch the ISP's router and get yourselfan ASUS 66N andput tomato on it... a$150 router just became a $3000 switch19:05
Oxymoronjoossee: Well yes, I have my own Netgear DualBand Gigabit router, BUT problem is that it doesnt support 4g. I dont have fiber.19:06
joosseeOxymoron, if the router is necessary for whatever reason, just plud a new routerintothe isp router and DMZ it, then use your router for all security19:06
Oxymoronjoossee: Which would explain why they have built in flood protection in 4G router.19:06
Oxymoronjoossee: Dual plug two routers? :S19:06
joosseeOxymoron, yes exactly... the fact that your are using a cellular connection certainlywont help thruput wise19:06
joosseeOxymoron, more like serial plug, but yes19:07
OxymoronIsnt that very slow to have two routers? :D19:07
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joosseeOxymoron, not atall...19:07
GZA-GeniusOxymoron: nope19:07
joosseeOxymoron, i mean are you getting more than 100mbps off your 4g connection? i doubt it!19:07
Oxymoronjoossee: No I do not, but I do not understand why it shouldnt be slower latency if you let network traffic pass through 2 routers instead of one?19:08
npc_Hi, how i can create backup on ubuntu server ?19:08
joosseeOxymoron, do you have any idea howmany routers your netflix packet goes thru beforehittingyours? 1 or10morein the chain wontmatter19:09
joosseeOxymoron, the typeof latency your describing is sosmall in a commercial internet access context as to be irrelevant19:10
Oxymoronjoossee: Well hehe, a lot :P But my point is, two gateways through is more likely it cause some kind of error then one gateway?19:10
joosseeOxymoron, once you get on google fiber we can talk, but even then its just a matter of getting gigabit routers instead of 100mbit19:10
moondogbut isn't NAT on NAT bad?19:11
Oxymoronjoossee: Google Fiber?19:11
joosseemoondog, no NAT, just DMZ19:11
moondogprobably can't turn off NAT on the ISP router19:11
joosseemoondog, onlybecomes a problem for inbound connections19:11
joosseemoondog, and even that is just a matter of sorting your routing tables19:12
moondogk, just curious19:12
Oxymoronmoondog: I can switch to bridgemode instead of NAT, which is DMZ I think, joossee?19:12
sirronbI need help. Grub is not showing my windoze installation anymore. I need to get my Windoze installation going. Please!!!19:12
moondogbridge mode would be nice19:12
joosseeOxymoron, yes tHAT SHOULD WORK19:13
Oxymoronjoossee: So my issue is torrent teqnique "flood" my router with too many TCP connection, which is more than Windows can handle. In other ways, Ubuntu can handle more connections then my router, but Windows do not and never trigger anything.19:13
joosseeOxymoron, im still confused though.. i thought everything was working now?19:14
joosseeOxymoron, if youre question  is "are tech supportpeoplechumps?"the answer is yes19:14
Oxymoronjoossee: Yes, at the moment. Not sure if the setting I added is permanently, it just added my current IP to know computers in firewall of router.19:15
joosseeOxymoron, in both windows and ubuntu the machine is using DHCP yes?19:15
mmazingi'm trying to get better popup notifications for skype, after receiving a message nothing flashes etc with unity so if i don't see the initial notification, i don't notice the message until later - skype can run a command when a message is received, i'm just not sure what to use19:15
mmazingim on 12.0419:15
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Oxymoronjoossee: yes and i prefer not use static ip.19:15
joosseeyes no i agree19:16
mmazingand yes, i know skype is a POS, etc, i unfortunately have to use it for work reasons19:16
joosseethen here is why u had problem: you prolly boot into ubuntu before DHCP has released the IP your windows os was using? ergo firewall gets confused... again 100's of possible reasons19:16
mmazingi'm mainly looking for some sort of command that will pop up a notification (not modal or a dialog box) that will stay there until i click it19:17
Oxymoronjoossee: Yes, I guess I jiopöåä19:17
Oxymoronjoossee: hate network*19:17
Oxymoronjoossee: My dog mistyped :D19:18
Oxymoronjoossee: Quite ironic, because I am educate myself in computer engineering :P19:19
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IsmAvatarreinstalling the proprietary driver didn't help, and now Action's gone, looks like19:19
joosseeOxymoron, well if you wanna add network engineer to your resume look into wireshark and then youll be able to see exactly what is making your router trip balls19:20
joosseeIsmAvatar, hell be back19:21
Oxymoronjoossee: Yes I know how to use wireshark, however its quite hard to filter this issue I am having. Even if I filter to tcp, its A LOT of traffic.19:22
joosseeanyone here using a TPLINK WDN419:22
joosseeanyone here using a TPLINK WDN480019:23
joosseeOxymoron, there are way more filters you can put in place19:23
joosseeOxymoron, id start with ICMP and broadcast packets personally19:23
mirakWould there be a way to import pictures directly from google photo to shotwell ?19:24
CodeOmegaPrimeI am running Ubuntu 13.04 and have the gnome3-team PPAs installed. My mouse keeps freezing randomly for 1 - 20 secs and then resuming. I have searched launchpad and have found a reference to the PPAs causing this behavior however this makes little sense to me as the PPA is not even used unless I am accessing its software through aptitude or synaptic package manager unless I am not understanding something properly. Has anyone19:24
CodeOmegaPrimeelse experienced this issue?19:24
MonkeyDustCodeOmegaPrime  why do you use the PPA's?19:26
tasslehoffis there a dedicated channel for MacTel? I'm considering upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10, and want to check if there are any hurdles/roadblocks to be expected.19:27
mirakI can't change my screen refresh rate to 24hz on 13.04 and 13.1019:27
tasslehoff(on a retina MacBook Pro)19:27
mirakwhat is the issue ??19:27
CodeOmegaPrimeMonkeyDust because I hate Unity and I like gnome3 and do not want to use gnome2. Unless there is someting "wrong" with using PPA's as I have done so many times in the past please enlighten me.19:28
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OerHeks!nounity19:29
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic19:29
xanguaCodeOmegaPrime: have you tried to remove that ppa¿19:29
Linuxuser10000hello19:31
Linuxuser10000i've set my clock to 12 hour time but now my am/pm part is gone19:32
Linuxuser10000is there any way to fix it19:32
Linuxuser10000?19:32
geniimirak: I am unaware of any monitors which are able to do such a slow refresh rate. Perhaps you are mixing the idea of frames per second with refresh rate of the monitor.19:32
reisioLinuxuser10000: no windows?19:32
CodeOmegaPrimexangua that was my next step but was seeing first if anyone had experienced the same behavior. Only dumb question is an unasked one. I will attempt to remove the PPA's and their packages and install the appropriate Ubuntu package I would take it in 13.04 that would be just install gnome-shell19:32
Luc111anyone can help me with draftsight?19:32
Linuxuser10000what do you mean by no windows reisio19:33
Linuxuser10000?19:33
Oxymoronjoossee: Yes, maybe I do it later.19:34
reisioit's usually obvious whether it's day or night, if you don't live in a prison cell :)19:34
SemajnadWhy is it when I make a user called networkadmin and assign them to the home directory of /home/networkadmin, I then login as networkadmin and create a folder, why is that folder then owned by root:root?19:34
lmatI have a server to which someone has sftp access. He would like to change his password (but only has sftp access), how should I proceed?19:35
Linuxuser10000i've checked my dconf and the setting for the am pm stuff is there19:35
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad does it belong to the root "group"19:35
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SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: What? The folder?>19:35
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mirakgenii, so are you gong to play 1080p 24fps movies ?19:35
Semajnadls19:36
Oxymoronjoossee: Thank you for helping me understand :) Now I know what the problem is, Ubuntu is to high tech for my router :D19:36
bekkslmat: Convince him to use public key authentication.19:36
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad well sorry should have been more specific. The folder and the user networkadmin19:36
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lmatbekks: hmmm...I'm the server admin. Is public key more secure ?19:36
bekkslmat: Yes, it is.19:36
mirakgenii, if youy have an home theater computer, then changes are that it's connected to a HDTV, wich all support 24hz, and every modern monitor support 24hz as well to play bluray movies.19:36
lmatbekks: The password isn't written down anywhere, but the private key is on his hard drive. In what way is it more secure (besides brute force attacks) ?19:37
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: networkadmin is the home directory of networkadmin by using useradd -d /home/networkadmin -m networkaadmin19:37
SemajnadBut it's saying it's owned by root:root and everything inside it even though I made it all while logged in as networkadmin19:37
jaminI've got a W530 that was working fairly well under 13.04 with the nvidia graphics in discrete mode.  After upgrading to 13.10, I find that unless I'm connected to AC the driver refuses to acknowledge my GPU, anyone else seen this?19:37
geniimirak: Most modern monitors begin at refresh rates of 60Hz and progress from there upwards.19:37
untohello19:38
mirakgenii, internally the minotors and hdtv probably work at 48hz or 72hz or even 96hz, but they will report a 24hz mode to the graphic card19:38
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad run "sudo groups networkadmin" without the quotes and run a "ls -al" without the quotes on the directory and what is the owner of the folder.19:38
reisiounto: hi19:38
mirakgenii no you are wrong, you know nothing, so please stop talking19:38
Linuxuser10000so what should i do to fix my tiem19:38
kostkongenii, he talks about vsync i guess19:38
Linuxuser10000*time19:38
bekkslmat: The key is far more complex. And in addition, the key itself can be protected by the nowhere-written-down password. So an attacker would both need the secret password of the key (which you as the admin will never get) and the complex key to authenticate.19:38
OxymoronI would like to know, is it possible to fix automaticly switch screen/audio to external, when plugin HDMI?19:38
geniikostkon: Seems like something other than "refresh rate", yes.19:38
lmatbekks: Right, thanks.19:38
Linuxuser10000can anyone help me fix it19:39
Linuxuser10000?19:39
gordonjcp!help | Linuxuser1000019:39
ubottuLinuxuser10000: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:39
kostkongenii, actually it's about syncing fps with the refresh rate or i guess even the opposite is possible19:39
mirakkostkon, no i am talking about refresh rate. The OS doesn't care if the TV works at 200hz internally, it just care about the reported refresh rates availables, wich 24hz is part of.19:39
lmatbekks: With public key authentication, the way to log in from different devices is to copy the private key to those devices, right ?19:39
mirakgenii, NO YOU ARE WRONG19:40
Semajnadthenetworkadmin can create folders inside his home directory but anything deeper down the folder tree gets given perms of root:root even though thenetworkadmin makes it19:40
mirakgenii, you just don't know what you are talking about19:40
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime:19:40
bekkslmat: No, no, no. The privat key always stays private. The public key component is copied to the server, and when login in, the user has to enter his secret password to unlock the secret key, which is then used to authenticate against his public key.19:41
Linuxuser10000!patience19:41
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/19:41
bekkslmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys19:41
lmatbekks: Right, so the private key is on his computer (A). When he is using a different computer (B), he needs to copy the private key from A to B in order to login to the server (C), right ?19:41
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad ?19:42
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: Ah, hold on I think I got it. :P19:43
bekkslmat: No. :) The user can create as many secret/public key pairs, and is just required to provide you (as the admin for being able to initially enter them to "/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys") those public keys.19:43
lmatbekks: AH. So he can create more than one private key for one public key ? Or he would send me another public key (for his other computer, B)?19:44
jaminif I boot the laptop on battery only, I get the following in Xorg.0.log:19:44
hitsujiTMOlmat you can have separate private keys for different machines. the authorized keys can take a list of different public keys19:44
jamin(EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0 is not supported by the 319.6019:44
bekkslmat: No. One public key belongs to one private key and vice versa.19:44
jaminbut if I reboot with AC power, all is fine.  This used to work either way under 13.0419:44
lmatbekks: Okay. If I have any other questions, I will ask you :)19:44
bekkslmat: He would send you the public keys for A and B, you enter them, and thats it. BEfore asking, just read the link given ;)19:44
lmatbekks: heh, okay :)19:45
joosseejournal73newspaper35shinmoon19:45
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad Cool, let me know what it was :)19:45
hitsujiTMOjamin: what nvidia gpu is this? I would suspect something is being disabled of battery mode, but i've never seen such an issue before.19:46
hitsujiTMOs/of/on19:47
IzarrenHautsaHi, can someone translate this to me please: Size: 4 3/4”W x 6 1/2”L x 3 1/2”H19:47
jaminhitsujiTMO: $ lspci -vv -s 01:00.019:47
jamin01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)19:47
jamin!!! Unknown header type 7f19:47
ubottujamin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:47
IzarrenHautsato centimeters19:47
jaminthere is indeed something being disabled in battery mode, based on the lspci output19:47
MonkeyDustjamin  better use !pastebin19:47
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: I stupidly logged in as root and created and installed everything, just my mind went to mush when I logged in, instead of logging into thenetworkadmin ;)19:47
jaminhitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360607/19:48
AlanBellmirak: you have a display that accepts inputs at 24Hz?19:48
jaminif I boot with AC connected, the output looks more like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360613/19:48
AlanBellmirak: can you do sudo apt-get install read-edid then "sudo get-edid |parse-edid |pastebinit" and tell me the url you get, that will dump your monitor timings19:49
joosseewow! looks like this card TPLINK WDN4800 worked rightout the box innative 12.04installed system!!19:49
AlanBellgenerally monitor timings don't matter unless you have a CRT, everything else sorts itself out just fine without messing about, I am guessing it is an esoteric display of some kind mirak19:50
joosseeWOOOOOOOWWWW19:53
joosseeThis TPLINK WDN4800 works right even in 12.04 installer!!19:53
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad : I have been there glad you got it fixed!19:54
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: Haha, thanks anyway :P19:54
CodeOmegaPrimeSemajnad : any time!19:55
mirakAlanBell, please do research on google before doing like you know what you are talking about19:56
mirakAlanBell, because I tell you here, that you don't.19:56
jaminseems like the new nvidia driver in 13.10 is trying to be too intelligent, possibly powering off the GPU even though it's in discrete mode19:56
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mirakAlanBell, since around 2007, HDTVs support 24hz. This is obviously to be able to play 24 frame per seconds movies wich is the cinéma standard. Many monitors supports this as well. My Sony KDL W4000 supports this.19:58
mirakAlanBell, my monitor Asus VG23AH supports this as well. There is nothing spectacular.19:58
AlanBellso lets see the edid then19:58
mirakAlanBell, what's the point ?19:58
mirakAlanBell, I have this working since Ubuntu 8.04 or something19:59
mirakAlanBell, but it's broken since 13.0419:59
mirakthe edid is really no the issue.20:00
mirakIf i do xrandr I clearly see 60 50 24 but it won't switch to 2420:00
OerHeksmirak, the EDID can help searching for an answer, you want that, don't you?20:00
mirakOerHeks, you want the edid from a ubuntu version that can switch to 24hz or the one of an ubuntu that can't switch to 24hz ?20:02
Skaparehas anyone installed either 13.10 or 12.04.X on 'ASUS Republic of Gamers G750JH-DB71 17.3" Notebook' ? ... I'm looking at maybe buying one of these and wonder if Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) will work on it with support for all the things (video, wifi, audio, etc)20:03
OerHeksmirak from the monitor you are trying to switch to 24 hz20:03
lmatI'm trying to set up ssh public key authentication for another user, but it doesn't looks like the server recognizes the fact that he has keys20:04
mirakOerHeks, i have actually a TV and a monitor that can switch to 24hz, and both are cloned20:04
Skaparelmat: specific message?20:04
lmatSkapare: It asks for a password.20:04
lmatSkapare: The user is using sftp to connect to the server.20:05
mirakOerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360703/20:05
lmatThe user (steve) is set up with a chroot during ssh.20:05
Skaparedid you try batch mode to see if that would fail? ... -o 'BatchMode yes'20:05
mirakAlanBell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360703/20:05
Skaparelmat: do tests with normal ssh client first ... once that works, try other stuff20:05
lmatSkapare: ok20:06
* Skapare has seen sftp fail when ssh works20:06
mirakfrom xrandr I have20:06
mirakHDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1600mm x 900mm20:06
mirak   1920x1080      60.0*+   59.9     50.0     24.0     30.0     30.0     25.020:06
* Skapare didn't have the time to debug why20:06
lmatSkapare: okay, I changed his shell (in /etc/passwd) to bash and it doesn't work.20:06
lmatsame behaviour :)20:06
lmathis key is installed at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys20:07
lmatshould it be in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key or something ?20:08
Picilmat: no20:08
lmatPici: okay, thanks :)20:09
lmatwell crap. I logged into the server using public key...20:10
lmatoh, perhaps the problem is this20:10
lmatI'm logging in as steve (not me), and I put his public key in *my* ~/.ssh .20:11
jaminhitsujiTMO: if I reboot the same laptop with an older kernel (3.8.0-32-generic) the card is not disabled20:11
joosseehow do i contribute to the HWcompatibility list20:11
lmatOH... perhaps I need -i20:11
SemajnadCodeOmegaPrime: Sorry to bother you again, but if I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/usrdir/Minecraft - if all of that is owned by thenetworkadmin:thenetwork, usr001 is part of the group thenetwork, finally if in sshd_config I have thenetwork group jailed to /home/thenetwork/%u/usrdir, why can't usr001 log into SFTP now?20:11
tozenhi all! ubuntu 12.10 has been updated till 13.04 as result got a problem with Shift+Prt Sc and Alt+Prt Sc combinations... login onto guest all works fine... so any ideas of what config file need to be deleted, please. thx20:12
FruckiwackiCan the Ubuntu installation media mount luks encrypted harddisks so i can install it onto overlying lvm volumes?20:12
hitsujiTMOjamin: can you file a bug report. I haven't been able to find any info as regards what the cause could be.20:12
lmatokay, this time the client said "Enter passphrase for key './stevesprivate':". I did, then it asked me for steve's password at the server.20:12
lmatSo the server isn't authenticating properly :(20:13
jaminhitsujiTMO: will do... right now I have two theories...  it's either the nvidia module doing something on load or the newer Linux kernel20:13
jaminthe 3.8 kernel doesn't have the module built for it and I don't currently have the headers installed for it, so I'm going to get those and build the module for it20:13
hitsujiTMOjamin. I suspect some sort of power management changes.20:13
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SemajnadIf I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/usrdir/Minecraft - if all of that is owned by thenetworkadmin:thenetwork, usr001 is part of the group thenetwork, finally if in sshd_config I have thenetwork group jailed to /home/thenetwork/%u/usrdir, why can't usr001 log into SFTP now?20:15
mmazingSemajnad: does Minecraft have group read permissions?20:17
mmazingor, usrdir20:17
Semajnadmmazing: Yes, drwxr-xr-x20:17
mmazinghave you checked your ssh logs?20:18
Semajnadmmazing: Would that show failed sftp login attempts?20:18
mmazingthat usually gives me the info i need when dicking with stuff like that20:18
Semajnadmmazing: Would it be a problem that thenetwork is thenetworkadmin's home directory?20:18
Guest6175Anyone:  what is command in terminal to check md5sum on usb stick?  < sudo !md5 > doesn't work20:19
mmazingsemajnad: probably not20:19
mmazingSemajnad: check /var/log/auth.log20:19
cpuguy83Trying to write an upstart job that wraps starting a bunch of other jobs.  The other jobs do not detach (running docker start -a container_name).  I can run the separate tasks individually from the command line and they all return as expected.  When I wrap them in a pre-start script the job never returns, though it does fire off the other jobs20:19
Mage_DudeCan anyone think of a reason why running 'apt-get install some_package' from a script would fail (with cannot find package), while running the exact same command finds the package just fine?20:19
IsmAvatarGuest6175: if I want an md5, I usually go with openssl md520:19
wilee-nilee!md5sum | Guest617520:19
ubottuGuest6175: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows20:19
lmatokay, I can ssh as steve using keys.20:21
Guest6175wilee-nilee: i'm in the home directory.  what was the command you gave me the other day to check it throughout system?20:21
Guest6175i don't know how to check directories or change them.  wilee-nilee20:21
Semajnadmmazing: http://pastie.org/8455343 So it's having a problem with thenetwork folder, if thenetwork group does not have read permissions on thenetwork folder, will it complain with anything futher down?20:22
wilee-nileeGuest6175, I don't recall giving you any command.20:22
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wilee-nileebut I barely remember my own name. ;)20:23
Guest6175a week ago maybe.  the commands i found on the links ubottu provided don't work. i have a learning disability20:23
mmazingSemajnad: what version of openssh do you have ? (sshd -v)20:24
Semajnadmmazing: "OpenSSH_6.2p2 Ubuntu-6, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013"20:24
Guest6175IsmAvatar: i've typed <openssl md5 >  it has not responded20:24
hitsujiTMOSemajnad: you will need read permission all the way up the directory chain to the root ssh folder.20:25
SemajnadhitsujiTMO: It's complaining about thenetwork folder20:26
mmazingsemajnad : this may be useful - http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes - good luck, i have to AFK for a bit20:26
hitsujiTMOSemajnad: what are the permissions on that folder?20:26
SemajnadhitsujiTMO: "drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork"20:26
SemajnadhitsujiTMO: and usr001 is a member of thenetwork group20:26
Guest6175IsmAvatar: how long does terminal take to respond to that command?  its been a while20:27
jmesta_exit20:28
Guest6175i'll try another way.  bbl20:28
_JuJuBeeIs there any software for malware checking for Ubuntu?20:28
IsmAvatarGuest6175: it's waiting for input20:28
reisio_JuJuBee: clamav20:29
wilee-nilee!av | _JuJuBee20:29
ubottu_JuJuBee: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus20:29
SemajnadhitsujiTMO: Apparently the chroot directory has to be owned by root?20:29
Barrytheboyhi I need some help my terminal is saying some mad stuff when I open it20:30
jaminhitsujiTMO: just confirmed that the same nvidia module version works fine with the older kernel version.  So, something between 3.8.0-32 and 3.11.0-13 has broken it.  Should I file the bug against 3.11.0-13?20:30
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MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  define "mad stuff"20:30
BarrytheboyNo command '“alias' found, did you mean:20:30
Barrytheboy Command '0alias' from package 'zeroinstall-injector' (universe)20:30
Barrytheboy“alias: command not found20:30
Barrytheboy“alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/lenovo”20:30
BarrytheboyNo command '“alias' found, did you mean:20:30
Barrytheboy Command '0alias' from package 'zeroinstall-injector' (universe)20:30
FloodBot1Barrytheboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:30
ianorlin!pasteinit20:30
ianorlin!pastebinit20:31
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com20:31
hitsujiTMOjamin: yes, if it belongs elsewhere it will get moved to the relevant place at least20:31
reisioBarrytheboy: can you use your terminal at all?20:31
Barrytheboyyes20:31
hitsujiTMOBarrytheboy: have you modified .bashrc or .profile?20:32
Semajnadhttp://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork20:32
Barrytheboyim not really tech savvy lucky to make it this far lol20:32
reisioBarrytheboy: seems like you put a quotation mark in your ~/.bashrc20:32
reisioprobably from an imperfect copy & paste20:32
reisioor from a shell script from one20:32
BarrytheboyI was trying to mount my ibm tablet20:33
reisiothat's not really relevant20:33
reisioopen up ~/.bashrc, find the quotation mark before the occurrence of 'alias', remove the quotation mark20:33
Wiz_KeeDWhat do you guys recommend as a dlna service to stream video to a smart tv?20:33
RayWizardwhat application displays login screen where you can select kde,gnome,unity,...? i messed up system and it displays cross cursor and nothing on logon20:34
gimli_anyone - want to check md5sum on usb stick.  what is the command in terminal?20:34
Barrytheboydo i just type ~/.bashrc20:34
MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  you put a " before the command 'alias', hence the error20:34
Wiz_KeeDanyone?20:34
hitsujiTMOBarrytheboy: nano ~/.bashrc20:34
LjLWiz_KeeD: i usually don't "recommend" but instead tell people to research their requirements. but, i'd probably start with minidlna, which is simple to configure and kinda tends to work20:34
LjLWiz_KeeD, let someone type20:35
Barrytheboyso type "~/.bashrc20:35
MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  don't type the "20:35
Barrytheboyi've typed nano ~/.bashrc20:36
Barrytheboyand it brings up more stuff20:36
Semajnadhttp://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork20:36
MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  tou don't need all that, just type 'alias' in the terminal, without the quotes20:36
hitsujiTMOWiz_KeeD: personally I avoid dlna, as a protocol it sucks. I try to go with players that support smb or nfs. But if you want something quick and easy to confure there's: minidlna20:37
Barrytheboydone20:37
Barrytheboywhat next20:37
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MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  whaqt do you want to do with alias?20:38
Barrytheboywhen I open terminal i get all the text I sent you ealier I want to get rid of it20:38
hitsujiTMOMonkeyDust: the problem is with his .bashrc having a invalid alias command, so it spouts a number of errors when he opens there terminal20:39
reisioBarrytheboy: open ~/.bashrc with a text editor20:39
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Barrytheboyreisio how to I do that20:39
Barrytheboysorry I'm not the best with this stuff20:40
reisioBarrytheboy: you don't know how to open a text editor?20:40
hitsujiTMOBarrytheboy: either: nano ~/.bashrc    or gedit ~/.bashrc20:40
Barrytheboylol nope20:40
MonkeyDustthe basics of the basics :)20:40
reisioBarrytheboy: send this as an IRC message: /exec -o egrep -i '^.alias' ~/.bashrc | tail -120:40
Barrytheboyi told u guys I know nothing lol20:41
Semajnadhttp://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork20:41
Barrytheboysee words like IRC mean nothing to me lol do I type all that stuff in terminal20:41
reisioBarrytheboy: where you typed 'see words like IRC'20:41
reisioBarrytheboy: copy & paste in what I said, after the colon20:42
RorySemajnad: sshd's strict ownership/permissions requirements dictate that every directory in the chroot path must be owned by root and only writable by the owner.20:42
PATRINOS-45kanas elinas;20:42
acuitusI just wanted to thank you guys for your help the other day with the grub issue20:42
tozenBarrytheboy: the best way to how to rid off all unwanted .bashrc configs you've got is just delete current .bashrc file from your home dirrectory so just tipe in console rm .bashrc and restart console. profit20:42
Barrytheboydont it said no such file or dicectory20:42
reisioacuitus: yw20:42
RorySemajnad: From here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP-chroot#Troubleshooting20:42
acuitusthe server cd evidently has had that problem before, since it has a "reinstall grub" option on it20:42
PATRINOS-45kanas elinas;;20:43
acuitusreisio: yeah you're the man, took two seconds and it worked like a champ20:43
acuitusnow I am running web, tftp, and virtualbox headless on that thing and it runs like a top20:43
Barrytheboyi typed in rm .bashrc nothing happended20:44
reisioBarrytheboy: what does 'pwd' say?20:44
Barrytheboyguys I'm find this hard to follow thanks for the help but I'll see if their is something else I can do to get help lol20:45
Barrytheboygod knows I need it lol20:45
hitsujiTMOBarrytheboy: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/20:45
reisio:/20:45
BarrytheboyhitsujTMO i tried it nothing happened20:45
_JuJuBeereisio: wilee-nilee:  I received an email "You have 24 hours to send 5 bitcoins to this address or i will release the20:46
_JuJuBeeinformation below." followed by ALL of my personal information like bank account numbers and social security numbers and drivers license number etc....  I was instructed to make sure there is no malware on my computer.   Just wondered if it is possible in linux.20:46
reisioBarrytheboy: start a new terminal20:46
hitsujiTMOBarrytheboy: retart the terminal now20:46
SemajnadRory: Thank you for explaining that. Is there a way to do what I want to do then? I've tried so many different ways lol20:46
abradleyanyone recommend an app to run on ubudesktop that will sync a destination cifs share with a local folder?20:46
Barrytheboyits gone lol20:46
Barrytheboycheers guys :)20:46
reisio_JuJuBee: the only way to be 100% sure is to reinstall, but if they already have your information it's already out there20:46
Barrytheboyyour amazing thanks20:46
MonkeyDustBarrytheboy  is that a live session ("try ubuntu") or an "installed ubuntu"?20:47
Barrytheboycan I ask if anyone know how to install dmg2img on ubunut 13.1020:47
reisioabradley: rsync -av source/ destination/20:47
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abradleyreisio, I didn't realize that rsync could handle cifs. thanks a lot20:48
reisioabradley: rsync sees what the system sees20:48
MonkeyDustabradley  --progress is a nice option you can add with rsync20:48
_JuJuBeereisio:  I am in the process of changing bank accounts etc... Just want to make sure there is nothing capturing key strokes etc....20:48
reisio_JuJuBee: as I said, the only way to be sure is to reinstall the OS, and keep track from the point of installation forward20:49
[Gentoo]_JuJuBee: where do you store all this info?20:49
XLVi noticed that when i use eg unetbootin or universal usb installer, the install media has less boot options than the burned to cd same iso20:49
XLVeg the expert boot option which allows text boot and install for ubuntu server is missing, and others20:50
_JuJuBee[Gentoo]: noplace that I store it has all of it.  I am thinking a bank got hacked since all of this information is used for a mortgage application and we recently purchased a home20:50
XLVany tools that can write the iso to usb with the same boot optiosn provided?20:50
hitsujiTMOXLV: what OS are you on?20:50
MonkeyDustXLV  there's multisystem20:51
reisio_JuJuBee: the information you listed, however20:51
reisio_JuJuBee: anybody can get that info20:51
XLVHisaoNakai you mean the OS that the writing of the iso to usb is done?20:51
XLVHisaoNakai i suppose you propose dd the iso to usb?20:51
killerhey , How can i submit my software for ubuntu software center ,I don't know how create a .deb file ,can i directly send source code or something?20:51
XLVMonkeyDust with YUMI? i tried it too, same deal20:51
reisiobank account #, driver's license, social security number, these are easy to obtain20:52
HisaoNakaiXLV: ???20:52
kostkonkiller, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/20:52
_JuJuBeereisio Social security and bank accounts?20:52
XLVHisaoNakai i tried using iso to usb tools over windows20:52
reisioand consequently you shouldn't really worry that someone has them (not worry anymore anyways)20:52
kostkonkiller, you'll need to create a source package20:52
UbuntivityHello, can a Windows executable (running on Ubuntu through Wine) set itself to run at startup of Ubuntu?20:52
reisio_JuJuBee: anybody who's seen a check of yours, for example, has your bank account number20:52
[Gentoo]_JuJuBee: account number is not as bad as card number20:52
reisio_JuJuBee: social security is even easier to obtain20:53
SemajnadRory: Sorry do you know how I can do what I want ?20:53
HisaoNakaiXLV: It seems you want to talk to hitsujiTMO , not me :p20:53
MonkeyDustUbuntivity  i guess #winehq would be a better place to ask20:53
reisioit's not great that a person would have this information, but it's not like they would have had to infiltrate your OS to get it20:53
kostkonkiller, or maybe not, if they already support click packages. not sure, read the guides on that page20:53
[Gentoo]Ubuntivity: dont think so20:53
_JuJuBeereisio: [Gentoo]:  I don't write checks from the accounts listed (only 1) so where would they get those account #'s?20:53
reisio_JuJuBee: a question worth asking20:54
reisiobut you can't really do that much to a person with their bank account number20:54
Ubuntivitythanks MonkeyDust, [Gentoo]20:54
reisionot that anyone else couldn't do, anyways20:54
XLVhitsujiTMO you mean the OS that the writing of the iso to usb is done? i suppose you propose dd the iso to usb?20:54
[Gentoo]im no wine expert but im pretty sure it cant go outside... actually i think it depends what drives are set in the wine options20:54
hitsujiTMOXLV: what OS are you on now and what iso do you want to burn20:54
XLVHisaoNakai sorry dude. they all seem greek to me20:54
XLVhitsujiTMO ubuntu 13.10 server 64bit, and a windows computer used20:54
killerkostkon: source package?20:54
_JuJuBeereisio: I realize that, just taking precautionary steps20:54
kostkonkiller, nvm about that, read the guides at http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/20:55
[Gentoo]Ubuntivity: but wine is generally run as a unpriv user so it shouldnt be able to go anywhere near root system files20:55
reisio_JuJuBee: well don't waste your time on data that any random joe can get on you20:55
hitsujiTMOXLV: dd is your only option. No tools have special support for 13.10 yet, so it defaults to a generic menu20:55
reisio_JuJuBee: but obviously if you can recall who you've _volunteered_ that information to recently, you can maybe inform the authorities that that person is trying to shake people down20:56
XLVhitsujiTMO i figured, in the end20:56
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_JuJuBeereisio: I only gave that much info to a mortgage application recently20:57
reisio_JuJuBee: there you go20:57
_JuJuBeeI doubt they are trying to extort bitcoins from me20:58
reisio_JuJuBee: probably some low level paper pusher20:58
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reisio_JuJuBee: happens every day20:58
reisioit doesn't have to be the owner of the bank you applied for a mortgage with20:58
reisioit could be any random janitor or file copiest20:58
[Gentoo]_JuJuBee: whatever it is, im 99% sure its nothing to do with ubuntu20:58
reisioanybody who has access to the information20:58
hitsujiTMO_JuJuBee: or they could have really bad security. Could even be a child of an employee using the bank laptop and copying the info from it.20:59
_JuJuBeeI realize all of this, but still do not want to take chances.  I want to make sure there was no malware sending out my personal information like passwords etc...21:00
irgautvolPlease help with lightdm not logging in anymore for main user only after upgrade to 13.10. I used gnome-fallback before upgrade and can't remember other personlised settings.21:00
[Gentoo]_JuJuBee: really unlikely21:00
reisio_JuJuBee: sure, just saying21:00
_JuJuBeeI appreciate the support.21:00
[Gentoo]in fact i never heard of it happening to someone on linux21:00
_JuJuBeeI feel the same, but don't want to take chances.21:00
hitsujiTMO_JuJuBee: reinstall the OS if you don't want to take chances21:00
[Gentoo]not in real life21:00
reisio_JuJuBee: backup your personal files, reinstall the OS, install something like AIDE to keep track of system integrity, clamscan all your personal data21:01
_JuJuBeeI am fairly certain Ubuntu is fine.21:01
reisioprobably21:01
[Gentoo]if you're paranoid go ahead and reinstall anyway and backup if it will give you peace of mind21:01
reisioit's like these people think the people they're trying to shake down won't even remember they just filled out a form with all that information :p21:02
_JuJuBeeSo should I still install clamav? or is it a waste of my time?21:02
reisio_JuJuBee: both21:03
_JuJuBeeSo it is really moral support :)21:03
[Gentoo]to me it sounds more like a user typed thing than a virus type thing21:03
_JuJuBeeI feel a little better, thanks21:04
reisio_JuJuBee: what I would do is assess if any of that information is even that personal, because it doesn't really sound like it is21:04
jalcinereisio: your here too21:04
reisiothen I'd report to the authorities the institution you gave the information to21:04
reisiothen I'd sit back and sip a cocktail21:04
_JuJuBeeLOL21:04
_JuJuBeeI brew my own beer... just sayin...21:05
[Gentoo]while they sip theirs on your money lol21:05
reisioif you were really bored, you could totally screw with the person trying to shake you down with information that isn't even personal21:05
PDilyardthis is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right21:05
reisioyou can't magically steal someone's money with their bank account number, driver's license, or social security number21:05
PDilyardgraphics card problem?21:05
TheSovhello all i just updated ubuntu and now i cant get a gui, something about nvidia drivers mismatch21:05
[Gentoo]reisio: i know i was joking21:05
reisioand even if you could, you don't need to infiltrate someone's OS to get that information21:05
reisio[Gentoo]: jokes are better if they follow :p21:06
TheSovi remember i had to do something with dkms last time does anyone know what to do?21:06
[Gentoo]TheSov: tried the latest nvidia drivers?21:06
hitsujiTMOTheSov how did you install the driver in the first place?21:07
TheSovyeah, my error message is nvidia kernel mod is 319.32 but driver component is 304.8821:07
TheSovfrom the restricted drivers gui21:07
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roscogruenwhat is terminal command to get md5sum off usb stick?  i don't know how to determine or change directories.21:09
TheSovi reinstalled 304 but there was a dkms command i neede21:09
reisioroscogruen: of what?21:09
TheSovanyone know it?21:09
chimeracoderroscogruen: df will tell you where it's mounted21:09
roscogruenwant to check md5sum of a new usb install stick21:09
chimeracoderoh21:09
roscogruenok.  it gives info but this is all greek to me21:10
[Gentoo]the command md5sum might be useful21:10
roscogrueni tried that.  terminal doesn't reply with anything. not even a prompt21:11
zykotick9roscogruen: i've never heard of someone checking the md5 of a USB before?!?  you "might" try md5sum'ing the device, or mount point... but i'm not sure either will work?  good luck.21:11
chimeracoderI'm still getting wifi problems connecting to my university's wifi - it got better after I disabled ipv6, but the problem still happens21:12
irgautvolcheers, i'll try again later - same PAM problem?? /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication21:12
chimeracoderactually, it's not problems connecting (that usually works) - it's that I get disconnected, and can't reconnect without restarting21:12
roscogruenzykotick9:  the mdsum checked out before i put it on the stick.  should it be good then?21:12
derptatsicHello, I need help with grub bootloader. It is booting into grub rescue. Here is my grub.conf file http://pastebin.com/YSmQS0d7 any help would be appreciated.21:12
chimeracoderjhutchins_wk: ^ if you're there - your suggestion helps, but I still get reason=2 disconnects21:12
zykotick9roscogruen: i'd assume so, or on boot isn't there a "verify this media" option?21:13
roscogruenisn't md5sum just a set of numbers.  like a long serial number?21:13
mfilipehey! I wanna install kde but the bare minimum install. which meta-package do I have to choose?21:13
zykotick9roscogruen: it's called a hash21:13
roscogruennever seen that in boot.  but maybe.21:13
hitsujiTMOderptastic: this is #ubuntu support not RHEL support21:14
roscogruenif the iso was goodbefore i burned it to the stick, should it now be good?21:14
derptatsicregister21:14
derptatsicoops21:14
tagIs there a way to make unity not take over my keyboard?21:14
zykotick9roscogruen: what "should be" and "what is" are not always the same ;)  but yes, assuming your ISO was correct, and your where successful in transfereing it to the USB...21:15
killerubuntu registration service says to submit "your application" and "yur application source" ,  what it means by your application21:15
chad_cI have a dumb question about symlinks, or what I think are symlinks.  I've uninstalled a tool that was installed using easy_install, but the symlink for the utility still exists.21:15
roscogruenok.  thank you zykotick921:16
chad_cI've checked my bash profiles, but I do not see the link in there anywhere21:16
chimeracoderI can turn power management off with 'iwconfig wlan0 power off', but that won't persist the next time wlan0 is brought up. Is there a way to turn power management off permanently?21:16
Picikiller: What is "ubuntu registration service"?21:16
TheSovcan someone please help me, i installed updates and it trashed my nvidia drivers, when i startx it says that my kernel module is 319.32 but my driver components are 304.8821:16
killerPici: I mean ubuntu website21:17
zykotick9TheSov: did you install the nvidia driver manually from nvidia.com?21:17
Picikiller: Can you provide a link as to what exactly you are referring to?21:17
hitsujiTMOkiller: maybe ask in #ubuntu-website21:18
TheSovno no i just want to go back to the 304 driver i had21:19
Picikiller: are you talking about creating a new project on launchpad?21:20
hitsujiTMOtheSov: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia21:20
killerPici: http://tinypic.com/r/2qnvzub/521:21
PDilyardthis is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right21:21
PDilyardthis is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right21:21
keynaive installed webalizer just over apt and its running, but it doesnt generate webpage...any ideas?21:21
TheSovnevermind i fixed it, i just had to type apt-get install nvidia-304 --reinstall21:21
PDilyardoops sorry for double post21:21
Picikiller: Likely the source code for your application, if you choose to distribute it.  I suspect that #ubuntu-app-devel might be able to provide more information.21:22
chimeracoderhm21:22
killerPici: Nope , It is a proprietary app , that I intent to submit to software center21:22
chimeracoderhow can I find out the maximum Tx-Powe my card will support?21:22
chimeracoder* Tx-Power21:22
Picikiller: It says its optional to provide that, so you don't need to include it.21:22
docdrizadoes anyone happen to know how to send Ubuntu system logs to a SIEM?21:24
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xuorx_hello all, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10, i can set backlight with touch FN + left right. Acer aspire V5 Intel HD 3000 + Nvidia 620M21:32
killerCan I simply submit source and let ubuntu package it for me(proprietary license) ,I read it somewhere21:32
yannackoxuorx when you make your install press F10 and select driver21:33
xuorx_i have already install ubuntu 13.1021:34
kostkonkiller, ask in #ubuntu-app-devel, this channel is for general support21:36
xuorx_nothing can help me ?21:37
kostkon!patience | xuorx_21:37
ubottuxuorx_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/21:37
lukodiablohi guis... why my aircrack-ng doesnt collect any ivs or packet injection?21:38
iwohey, does anyone know what might be wrong with my system (13.10)? all my status bar icons have reset to old, awful looking ones, my title bar is now an old-fashioned gray...21:38
iwomy terminal text is invisible, only the prompt shows21:38
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iwobasically my whole UI has just suddenly degenerated to completely broken21:39
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adamkiwo: Sounds like your video drivers are broken.  Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.21:39
yeshh:)21:39
reisiolukodiablo: 'cause you're using it wrong21:39
adamkxuorx_: You haven't really said what your problem is.21:40
lukodiabloiwo:  look in the setting21:40
iwolukodiablo: which setting?21:40
xuorx_i can't set backlight when i press FN + Down or up21:41
lukodiabloreisio: i dont know... in ubuntu its work good... but in bt i dont see the line with21:41
iwoadamk: http://pastebin.com/F31rLKWJ21:41
jhutchins_wkxuorx_: That's because it's not a standard keycode.21:41
iwoadamk: am i in some kind of failsafe UI mode?21:42
xuorx_i have a acer aspire v521:42
xuorx_on ubuntu 13.04 no problem21:42
adamkiwo: That was my guess, but your video drivers appear to be fine so far.21:42
adamkiwo: Certainly nothing jumps out at me in the log file.21:43
iwoi've tried deleting all my compiz and dconf settings, still no difference21:43
adamkiwo: Pastebin the output of 'glxinfo'21:43
bratnerhi all! i'm trying to run tombraider aniversery in wine(ubuntu 12.04) and when it starts the icon bar on the left stays and the mouse pointer in the game is pulled to the left. Anyway i can make proper full screen?21:45
iwoadamk: http://pastebin.com/Kjayjndh21:45
marko-_-hello i am using ubuntu 13.04 and am just wondering if there's a GUI to add programs to start up?21:46
adamkiwo: Alright, my guess was wrong.  Your drivers are working just fine.21:46
adamkHopefully someone else has an idea.21:46
iwoadamk: ah, i think i may have removed some essential component...21:47
hitsujiTMOmarko-_-: open the dash and type: startup applications21:47
iwoi tried to remove mono using apt-get remove mono-*21:47
iwoand i think this may have removed an essential package... maybe21:47
marko-_-hitsujiTMO, thanks21:47
kostkonmarko-_-, click on the gear icon in the corner, then "start up applications..."21:48
iwoadamk: time to reboot to see if i'm right :)21:48
lukodiabloreisio: i see the bssid.. station.. PWR .. rate.. lost.. frame .. probe... but where are the packets???? i dont see them, i've try upbgrade the aircrack-ng but in output i get its latest version21:48
KillBiebsQuestion, I am running 13.10 with triple monitors and Chrome. When I click and drag a tab to open up a new window on the right monitor it always defaults to the left one. Any idea how to set it to open up on whatever monitor I drag it too?21:49
jhutchins_wkKillBiebs: Dunno, you're the first person I've seen who got three monitors working on 13.10!21:49
KillBiebshah, I had no problems getting three monitors working :) That was easy. I am just having difficulty getting default programs to open up on what monitor, etc21:49
lukodiablothe aircrack in ubuntu 13.04 fork almost fine...21:50
kostkonKillBiebs, is the issue specific only to chrome21:50
KillBiebshrm, let me check firefox...21:50
iwoadamk: yes, apt-get remove mono-* is not a good way to uninstall mono :)21:50
iwolooks like that was the problem21:50
iwoTIL unity cannot function without parts of mono :(21:51
KillBiebsAh, yes it is with Chrome only :) I didn't even think to try another browser. Should have done that first. Thanks for the suggestion21:51
kostkoniwo, ?21:51
msassakdoes anyone know how to automatically accept oracle's license when installing the JDK from webupd8team's PPA?21:51
iwokostkon: ?21:51
kostkoniwo, mono isn't installed by deafult in ubuntu anymore21:51
iwoah, i think i managed to uninstall the Ubuntu Mono icon theme xD21:52
lmatI use cairo-dock and would like to install the cpu-freq indicator. It goes on the bar at the top with the time, right ?21:52
kostkoniwo, oh we are talking about the icon theme ok...21:52
xanguamsassak: automatically accept a licence agreement withoud 'reading it' doesn't sounds good21:53
lorundriklmat, correct21:53
iwoand probably other parts of the UI that are 'Mono' the theme, not mono the .Net framework21:53
lmatI have that bar and it looks like (from DDG), I'm supposed to right-click and add the indicator21:53
lmatBut when I right click the bar, nothing happens :(21:53
lmatIs there another way to install indicators ?21:53
lmat(I sudo apt-get install indicator-cpufreq  already)21:53
SemajnadWhat's the best way to have a user chrooted to a directory, so they can upload files etc, but have an executable in the directory above that still runnable by a user?21:53
iwokostkon: in trying to uninstall the .net library, i accidentally destroyed unity21:53
msassakxangua thanks--i've read it, but now i want to automate it :-)21:53
kostkoniwo, ah21:53
lorundriklmat, try reboot.21:53
kostkoniwo, hmm21:53
lmatlorundrik: um... how about service lightdm restart ?21:54
lmatlorundrik: So after a reboot, you're hoping that right click will result in the desired action ?21:54
lmatlorundrik: (I have much too much programs open now that I need to keep open, so I'll reboot later)21:54
hitsujiTMOlmat: try running it from the console: indicator-cpufreq &21:56
SemajnadWhat's the best way to have a user chrooted to a directory, so they can upload files etc, but have an executable in the directory above that still runnable by a user?21:56
lmathitsujiTMO: yeah, that failed.   Warning **: Could not connect: Connection refused.21:56
KillBiebsI found a patch for my triple monitor issue that I believe I need to apply using diff. I have never done this soooo wish me luck.  Thanks for your help21:56
lmatI then did dbus-launch indicator-cpufreq &21:56
lmatAnd no errors, but no indicator, either.21:56
lmatKillBiebs: you use patch to apply patches :)21:56
lmatKillBiebs: use diff to create patches.21:56
hitsujiTMOlmat: is it compatable with cairo?21:57
KillBiebsoh hah, so patch command? :)21:57
lmathitsujiTMO: I don't know. I assume so since the bar with the time is up there ...21:57
KillBiebsShows how long this will take lol21:57
lmatKillBiebs: yeah   patch -p<path level to ignore> < patchfile.patch21:57
little_shiramorning21:57
lmatKillBiebs: You're not alone :)21:57
little_shiracan anyone tell me the package for the mate display manager, please?^^21:57
lmathitsujiTMO: I see the wireless network indicator, time, keyboard indicator, etc...21:57
KillBiebsso if the patch is in trunk/src/ui/gfx/screen_gtk.cc would I just do patch -p trunk/src/ui/gfx/screen_gtk.cc gtk.patch?21:58
lmatlittle_shira: apt-cache search mate     ?21:58
hitsujiTMOlmat: fair enough, looks like a restart would have to do then21:58
lmathitsujiTMO: :(  Will it start up automatically, or will I need to run it ?21:58
little_shiragot it... i am so unfocused today <.< thank you21:59
stianzwindows disk shows up as SFS-file system cant seem to mount them with "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda etc". Any tips ?22:00
hitsujiTMOstianz: /dev/sda is a drive. you want to mount the partition on that drive22:01
techlordHello I have just installed 12.04 on a laptop and run updates but the next reboot I am getting error e: malformed line 56 in source list /ect/apt/sources.list and when I open the file it is blank. Any ideas22:01
stianzhitsujiTMO: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt/Windows1 like that22:02
techlordOr how can I fix the error22:03
k1ltechlord: where do you get which error? (please put it into a nopaste)22:03
hitsujiTMOstianz: effectively, but you need to know what node is the windows partition22:04
stianzhitsujiTMO: I think its some kind of windows dynamic volume format, that i have to convert to ntfs first22:04
techlordI get the error as soon as I start the PC with a red circle in the system line and updates will not run and I get the error line when I run sudo apt-get update from trminal22:05
techlordSorry dont understand the please put in into a nopaste?22:05
k1l!paste | techlord22:05
ubottutechlord: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:05
buuIs there a way to force a cpu fan to spin up from the desktop level?22:06
IsmAvatarhold down the control key :-p22:07
IsmAvatar(points if you get the reference)22:07
techlordWell it is not this PC I am geting them on22:07
buuIsmAvatar: I don't =[22:07
techlordOk I will try and get them on there22:07
IsmAvatarbuu: http://xkcd.com/1172/22:08
IsmAvatarspacebar, not control key22:08
calwigHi22:08
buuCute22:08
hitsujiTMObuu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed   but you really should not be playing with the cpufan22:08
calwigwhat is that app that allows you to to do a benchmark on the HDD?22:09
techlordpaste.ubuntu.com/636136522:09
buuhitsujiTMO: Thanks, its a brand new system and so far the fan hasn't spun up that I can tell, just want to make sure it works22:09
compdoccalwig, Disk Util does22:09
techlordis the paste of the terminal lines from the PC with issues22:09
krabadori need to know where watch the log22:09
calwigcompdoc, name?22:10
k1ltechlord: can you paste a "cat /etc/apt/sourceslist"?22:11
hitsujiTMOtechlord: cat /etc/apt/sources.list22:12
techlordLet me get that22:12
k1ltechlord: o sorry, missed the "." in the filename22:12
Jordan_Ubuu: Running "yes > /dev/null" Should peg (one core of) your CPU, causing it to heat up and the fan to run.22:12
techlordhere is the screen shot of the error imagebin.org/27579322:13
buuJordan_U: There's a thought =]22:13
kostkontechlord, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin its contents22:14
tagIs there a way to keep the unity plugin from interfering with super?22:14
techlordIt says there is no such directory22:14
techlordlostkon it is blank22:14
k1ltechlord: yes, there seems to be a problem in that textfile, which is used as config file for updates.22:14
techlordthere is nothing to post22:14
kostkontechlord, try again, the cmd is:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list22:14
k1ltechlord: please again: do a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"22:14
fr0ggieSo... I bought this webcam. It's got LEDs around the outside, lsusb says its: 0461:4d22  -- [260179.651379] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (1871:0101)22:15
techlordblank22:15
techlordnothing at all.22:15
fr0ggieI want the LEDs on and also, its supposedly more than 1MP, but 640x480 is max res cheese shows. Hmm?22:15
k1ltechlord: if that brings no output please do a "ls -al /etc/apt/"22:15
kostkontechlord, it's case sensitive, make sure caps lock is off etc22:16
fr0ggiethe chinese folks that sold me it claimed 12mp and its definitely a sharp picture for 640x480 lol22:16
techlordthe last command you asked says no such directory again22:16
kostkonfr0ggie, 12mp with software interpolation maybe?22:16
techlordI have checks and redone several time22:16
k1ltechlord: please put that all into a pastebin again22:17
kostkonfr0ggie, actually is at most 1mp?22:17
techlordI can post the terminal in the pastebin if you like to check :)22:17
techlordWill do22:17
parker____hi22:18
radiokills_radiokills22:18
fr0ggiekostkon: Dunno but its decent enough pic. My main issue is the lights. I'll hack on the rest22:18
techlordpaste.ubuntu.com/6361406 is the link22:18
fr0ggiekostkon: I want to use this to see if people come near my computer :P22:18
kostkonfr0ggie, that;s another storry yeah22:18
fr0ggieNothing interesting in uvcdynctrl -c22:19
k1ltechlord: mind the typo in the cat command. "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"22:19
kostkontechlord, not "ect", "etc" and not "atp", but "apt"22:20
kostkontechlord, typos22:20
fr0ggiePS they work in windows :P22:20
fr0ggietested it on some poor sod's laptop22:21
techlordSorry got this time, paste.ubuntu.com/6361429/22:21
jhutchins_wkfr0ggie: At least it's recognized as a camera.  cheeze is probably not the most versitile program to explore it with, you can probably find some stuff by tracking down whatever the current version of v4l is.22:22
techlordAnd I have the other file now22:23
jhutchins_wkfr0ggie: You can also track down the USB ID for the chipset and see what other people have done with it.22:23
k1ltechlord: ok i see the problem22:23
hitsujiTMOtechlord: lines 56 + 57 should not be there22:23
techlordNot at all?22:24
hitsujiTMOtechlord: not at all, did you add them in?22:24
techlordNo22:24
k1ltechlord: see the line 56 and 57. there is a "precise" missing between the canonical.com and the partner22:24
mikesplain /msg nickserv identify street91122:24
techlordI jsut installed OS and then tryed to install skype22:24
k1lmikesplain: change the password :/22:24
mikesplainclose22:24
IsmAvatarfacepalm22:25
hitsujiTMOk1l: the repos are present on 50+5122:25
techlordSorry to sound like a idiot how can I add the line count on the editor?22:25
k1lhitsujiTMO: right, just did a look at the error lines22:25
k1ltechlord: see the paste you gave us :)22:25
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wafflejocktechlord: depends on the editor, usually shows line number in a status bar at the bottom if not showing line numbers22:26
techlordYes I am looking at the gedit as well as the paste :)22:26
kostkontechlord, because i am not sure about the state of gksudo, give in the terminal:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, scroll down and delete those lines, then press CTRL+X and then 'Y'.22:26
techlordI am using the default for ubuntu22:26
cyberhackhey people can tell me something?22:26
hitsujiTMOtechlord: sudo sed -i 's/deb http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list22:26
k1ltechlord: see kostkons advice. it will remove the lines22:26
cyberhack??22:27
cyberhack?22:27
wafflejocktechlord: using kubuntu here don't have gedit to check, not sure if it has the option but I imagine it might, geany definitely does, and I mostly use sublime for development stuff which also definitely does22:27
s5fsI'm running stock 12.04, can anyone recommend a simple, drop-in tiling wm? i mostly work in terminals and want them to auto-layout, basically.22:27
k1l!details | cyberhack22:27
ubottucyberhack: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:27
cyberhacki have 1 problem22:27
hitsujiTMOtechlord: also: sudo sed -i 's/deb-src http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list22:27
cyberhacki have the problem with virtual machine and wmware22:28
techlordOk I am running you line from above for the sudo nano22:28
k1lwafflejock: gedit can do this too. but i think we should focus on the problem first and then go for the bonus :)22:28
cyberhacki try to open wheezy but not open22:28
wafflejockk1l: I get distracted easily :D22:28
Dresk|LaptopHey, I'm Googling this as well, I'm getting some old threads, but what's the proper way to do an Ubuntu update, say from 13.04 to 13.10?  The best thread I've found so far is from 2009, advising apt-get install update-manager-core and do-release-upgrade22:28
hitsujiTMODresk|Laptop: yup still the same22:29
OerHeksDresk|Laptop, 'sudo do-release-upgrade"  will do22:29
k1lDresk|Laptop: you can run that from gui. or in terminal with do-release-upgrade22:29
Dresk|LaptophitsujiTMO / OerHeks / k1l : Thanks guys, trying it out now22:30
k1lDresk|Laptop: "update-manager" is the gui version22:30
hitsujiTMODresk|Laptop: well actually the propper way is to backup, then sudo do-release-upgrade22:30
jhutchins_wkDresk|Laptop: DANGER WILL ROBINSON!  MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!22:30
Dresk|LaptopNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo22:30
kostkontechlord, after you finish, give: sudo apt-get update and see if you'll get any error messages22:30
sam113101my wallpaper is gone22:31
sam113101and I can't change it22:31
sam113101I don't get any menu when I right click on the background, either22:31
sam113101help is required22:32
hitsujiTMOsam113101: have you looked into .xsession-errors for any error reports?22:32
techlordI tried to run the command line sudo sed -i 's/deb http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list but it still giving error22:32
filipe_my compiz special effects don t work why ?  I already installed compiz- config, i installed synaptic and compiz extra effects , i reebot , but i selected cube and other effects but it dont work . what iam missing . iam uing 13.10 ?22:33
filipe_!22:33
arpad2when can the kernel version be updated next time?22:33
k1lsam113101: see .xsession-errors in /home. but i suggest you should set nautilus to handle the desktop22:33
techlordThere is no way to scroll the chat room up is there?22:33
sam113101k1l: how do I do that22:33
sam113101I installed pcmanfm and that's what broke it22:34
hitsujiTMOtechlord: also run: sudo sed -i 's/deb-src http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list22:34
sam113101at least I think22:34
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k1larpad2: 13.10 will stay in 3.11 the next new kernel version comes with the next release22:34
sam113101http://pastie.org/845565022:34
UrielVigilantmy compiz special effects don t work why ? I already installed compiz- config, i installed synaptic and compiz extra effects , i reebot , but i selected cube and other effects but it dont work . what iam missing . iam uing 13.10 ?22:34
techlordThat was the line I run22:34
lmatI forgot who helped me on this, but a restart did make the cpufreq indicator show up :)22:34
techlordas I posted right above your last post22:35
hitsujiTMOsam113101: is the background just black?22:35
techlord all togetherthe lines on the gedit and what do I need to change there or do I jsut delete the lines  and22:35
techlordthe lines on the gedit and what do I need to change there or do I jusdelete the lines  and  all together22:36
Hawkeye0914I have a GTX 550ti and a GTX 8800 using 4 monitors. But I am having trouble getting two of the monitors to work. Could someone help me out?22:36
sam113101hitsujiTMO: yep22:36
hitsujiTMOtechlord: there s a slight difference in the second command i posted. it seens to be run aswell22:36
arpad2<k1l>: thank you22:36
msbrownUrielVigilant: perhaps you could reset Unity/compiz to defaults, then try again one piece at at time?22:36
techlordof ok22:36
sam113101just black (  .____.)22:36
techlordoh ok22:37
lmatlogout22:37
lmatdoh..22:37
hitsujiTMOsam113101: you've nothing drawing the background. install something to draw it or reinstall nautilus22:37
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I already have nautilus22:37
arpad2<k1l>:  if Optimus is supported in 3.12, does it mean Nvidia drivers will be installed automatically?22:37
simoneb_does anybody know which is the channel for linux mint?22:37
sam113101how do I force it to draw the wallpaper?22:37
hitsujiTMOsam113101: reinstall it22:37
hitsujiTMOsam113101: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus22:38
lvl1roguehello, I'm having difficulty with gnome-terminal (and, in fact any terminal program). When I start one up I'm presented with only a "$" as the prompt and I do not have tab completion, so everytime I start a terminal I have to run "bash" to get the normal directory prompt and tab completion.22:38
UrielVigilantmsbrown:  how to do that ?=22:38
techlordyou are the man22:38
techlordI got the updates running again now22:38
techlordI want to thank you very much22:39
hitsujiTMO!mint | simoneb_22:39
ubottusimoneb_: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org22:39
sam113101be right bac22:39
k1larpad2: there will be no default 3.12 in 13.1022:39
msbrownUrielVigilant: well, I was just testing out the things I wanted to have you do -- but they don't work on 13.10.22:40
k1ltechlord: be more aware if you change something at files where you need root/sudo priveleges.22:40
sam113101hitsujiTMO: didn't fix it22:40
msbrownUrielVigilant: give me a seco22:40
techlordSee that is what I dont know how it got changed22:40
wafflejocklvl1rogue: you may not have bash set as the shell for your user22:41
wafflejockgetent passwd $LOGNAME | cut -d: -f722:41
wafflejock^ check the current shell for your user22:41
hitsujiTMOlvl1rogue: sounds like you've changed your default shell.22:41
techlordthe only thing I did after the install and first update was try and add repository from the terminal and it errored so that must have been the issue time22:41
arpad2mouse not working in one user profile, I don't know how to solve this22:41
SerusHi22:42
ZeThomashello; i have installed the latest nvidia-drivers, but i can't seem to get them working, in the sense that they don't get loaded. can someone help me?22:42
SerusDoes ubuntu support out of the box EFI?22:42
wafflejocklvl1rogue: http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/822-How-to-change-the-login-shell-for-Linux-user <- to change your shell if necessary22:42
lvl1roguewafflejock:  getent passwd depersio | cut -d: -f7 returns "/bin/sh". how do i go about changing that?22:42
techlordBut I do see my issue now thank you for your time22:42
lvl1roguewafflejock:  thanks, ill checkout the link22:43
hitsujiTMOserus: yes22:43
SerusI have been struggling for literally a day straigh with getting different distros to install with EFI22:43
Serusbut no success on all the other distros22:43
OerHeks!uefi | Serus22:44
ubottuSerus: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:44
SerushitsujiTMO: cool, maybe there is a linux future for this laptop aferall22:44
Obscene_CNNMy machine slows down when I type this performance script someone gave me in a shell ":(){ :|:& };:" I have a video of the result http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA022:45
msbrownUrielVigilant: I'm at a loss & having to go to google, not going to be much help here22:45
bekks!danger | Obscene_CNN22:45
ubottuObscene_CNN: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!22:45
techlordDoes anyone know how I can scroll up in the chat room?22:45
techlordI am using XChat22:46
lvl1roguewafflejock, using "chsh" tells me "user '$username' does not exist in /etc/passwd". my account is stored remotely on a university network22:46
bekksObscene_CNN: That command is known as a fork bomb intended to crash your computer. DO NOT RUN IT.22:46
Obscene_CNNso that is why it slows down?22:46
sam113101how do I set nautilus to handle the wallpaper?22:46
bekksObscene_CNN: Correct.22:46
msbrownbekks: I think he knows, & is trolling22:46
hitsujiTMOObscene_CNN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb22:46
Obscene_CNNsomeone fooled me  :(22:47
SerushitsujiTMO: should I delete the old grub install from the EFI partition?22:47
msbrownUrielVigilant: this is basically what I was going to get you to do... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/22:47
Obscene_CNNI better remove it from my start up script22:48
hitsujiTMOSerus: if its not needed anymore you can delete it safely with efibootmgr22:48
Jordan_UObscene_CNN: Don't run random commands that you don't understand. Always try to understand what the command is doing before you run it, and if you can't do that at least get confirmation from multiple people (who you are reasonably sure aren't colluting) that it's a safe command.22:48
SerusAlso other distros tried to acces MBR on the HDD so the tests are not accurate22:48
Jordan_USerus: This channel only supports Ubuntu.22:49
myndzianybody got a link to some kind of upstart boilerplate for wrapping a binary?22:50
rhaguhi I run a small ubuntu server and found this with smartctl: http://pastebin.com/FFGKDgFc the status is PASSED what should I make of this?22:50
hitsujiTMOmyndzi: read through http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  there's a few examples there22:50
k1ltechlord: just use the scroll-whell of the mouse? or move the slider up?22:50
wafflejocklvl1rogue: so you aren't an administrator on the computer storing the user accounts? if not think you can modify your ~/.login or ~/.profile to use bash http://www.unixguide.net/unix/bash/A7.shtml22:50
techlordWow I should have caught on to that :)22:51
SerusJordan_U: I know, but I was stating stuff other distros did, so the tests hitsujiTMO linked might not be accurate.22:51
myndzii'm on that page, but it's rather all-encompassing in scope22:52
compdocrhagu, not the smart data I use to make sense of it. try: smartctl -a /dev/xxx22:52
myndziwhat am i looking for to just create 'service x start/stop/restart' commands?22:53
rhagucompdoc http://pastebin.com/u6BBeA2H22:53
s5fsCan anyone recommend a simple, drop-in tiling window manager?22:54
hitsujiTMOmyndzi: have a look in /etc/init/ for some other examples22:54
TheLordOfTimeIs there a way to specifically tell update manager in 12.04 to ignore updating on a specific repository?  I've got Opera's repositories in the system, but they're returning "Connection Refused" and it's throwing off the updates data...22:54
hitsujiTMOs5fs: dwm22:54
k1lTheLordOfTime: comment that sources out22:55
hitsujiTMOTheLordOfTime: remove the opera repos22:55
compdocrhagu, looks fine:  Reallocated_Sector_Ct, G-Sense_Error_Rate, Reallocated_Event_Count, Current_Pending_Sector , and Offline_Uncorrectable  are all zero22:55
s5fshitsujiTMO: okay i'll give it a look22:55
k1lTheLordOfTime: PPAs repos should be deactivated while upgrading anyway22:55
msbrownTheLordOfTime: the software updater gui has settings for that22:55
TheLordOfTimek1l: wasn't talking about upgrading...22:55
SerushitsujiTMO: Can I make the bootable USB with universal usb installer?22:55
deper29s5fs: I like awesome22:55
jhutchins_wkrhagu: That only shows two errors.  Probably nothing to worry about, but it does not that you've never run a test.22:55
TheLordOfTimek1l: was talking about updates, not upgrading.22:55
TheLordOfTimek1l: there's a distinction between the two words..22:56
compdocPower_On_Hours is only 81 hrs22:56
jhutchins_wkrhagu: THe main thing about smart is to keep an eye on your logs, and if you start seeing errors there start shopping.22:56
k1lTheLordOfTime: ok, sorry. the see apt-pinning or set that package on hld22:56
hitsujiTMOSerus: others have had trouble with it. unetbootin tends to be good overall22:56
jhutchins_wkrhagu: If the errors start getting worse, BUY NOW!22:56
s5fsdeper29: i'm looking for something that requires the lowest investment of effort to get up and running22:56
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rhagucompdoc I am just curious where these two come frome especially because their timestamp is 0hours22:56
Jordan_Us5fs: Why do you want a tiling window manager?22:57
k1lTheLordOfTime: if that still causes error, because its checking that repos you need to disable that.22:57
deper29s5fs: I see. I've never used dwm myself, so I can't speak for it. Of the window managers I've used most of them seem to require some configuration22:57
SerushitsujiTMO: Ok, 12.04 or 3.10?22:57
rhagujhutchins_wk I will have a look at them, it is not too serious right now, because they are in a raidz2 setup, but what do you mean with "but it does not that you've never run a test"?22:58
jhutchins_wks5fs: This should remind us that the timestamp is just another series of binary digits.22:58
krabadori need to know where i can look logs for wireless disconnections22:58
jhutchins_wkrhagu: You've never used one of the self-tests available in smartctl.22:58
s5fsJordan_U: i work mostly in terminals and am sick of laying them out by hand22:58
jhutchins_wkrhagu: You don't have any scheduled tests (probably not necessary).  There are no stored results.22:58
zykotick9deper29: i believe awaesome is based off of dwm (but i think most tiling wms are...)22:58
hitsujiTMOserus: 12.04 if you want absolute stability. 13.10 if you want the latest of everything possible.22:58
rhagujhutchins_wk what is the difference between running a self test and looking at the results of smartctl -all ?22:59
s5fsJordan_U: i use four virtual desktops in a 2x2 grid, each with 2-4 terminals, that sort of thing.22:59
k1ls5fs: take a look at awesome22:59
deper29zykotick9: is it?I thought it was based off openbox or something22:59
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deper29not that it matters. I really like awesome22:59
s5fsI'll give awesome and dwm a look, thanks everyone!23:00
hitsujiTMOs5fs: dwm and awesome are both good for keyboard only setups.    however i recently switched to openbox (not a tiling window manager) as the configs in it allow for far superior keyboard shourcuts and tools23:01
krabadori've wifi disconnection, many times , how can i look logs?23:02
krabadorubuntu 13.1023:02
moondoghitsujiTMO: so if you run openbox on ubuntu... what is your initial install like... you just do a regular install and ignore unity?23:03
moondogor is there some sort of minimal install media?23:04
deper29!minimal | moondog23:04
ubottumoondog: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:04
moondogthank you :)23:04
deper29you bet23:04
gimpygooHow are you all doing today ?23:04
moondogso that's the thing if you don't want to use a pre-selected DE than?23:05
moondogthen....23:05
wafflejockmoondog: if you want ubuntu/debian base yes23:05
hitsujiTMOmoondog: debootstrap install23:05
wafflejockmoondog: lots of people go archlinux if they want to start very raw I believe23:06
gimpygoo Anyone have a suggestion for a different window manager other then the one that ships with regular ubuntu ?23:06
TheLordOfTimek1l: yeah i'll disable the repo for now, check back in a couple weeks or smth23:06
gimpygooOne that would be a good learning experience to install as well.23:06
hitsujiTMOmoondog: can also be done with ubuntu server as a base23:06
k1lTheLordOfTime: check the opera community if there were changes or other news23:07
deper29gimpygoo: I recommend awesome23:07
deper29it is awesome23:07
TheLordOfTimei might23:07
gimpygoodeper29, I hope so :)23:07
gimpygoowith a name like that :)23:07
hitsujiTMOgimpygoo: what are your requirements?23:07
sam113101hitsujiTMO: help me ;_;23:08
gimpygoohitsujiTMO, I would like one that would be a bit easier on my older equipment...23:08
nieeHi folks :)) Any one to help me pls? I have a problem to my Google Chrome browser after try to play Video Clip in youtube (ubuntu 11.04). The sound is "stuttering". Any ideas how to fix this problem?23:08
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gimpygooThis comp is not handling compiz horribly... but I think that it could be doing better.23:09
gimpygoowith what Ive heard about linux running better on older hardware I am a bit underwhelmed to be honest.23:09
gimpygooIt is majorly slow sometimes.23:09
deper29gimpygoo: tbh, it depends on the distro but I find it depends a lot on the desktop manager.23:09
hitsujiTMOgimpygoo: xfce is a good start. just install xubuntu. or lxde if you need something lighter (lubuntu). after that you want to start looking at something lighter again, openbox or fluxbox23:10
gimpygooNow, that could be me ( prob is) but Im trying to optimize the system. My lack of experience on linux def plays a part I would think .23:10
deper29If you're trying to run the latest ubuntu with unity and everything on old hardware: don't23:10
gimpygooim on 12.04 .23:10
gimpygooSo not THE latest.23:10
deper29and what hitsujiTMO said. Try something like xfce or lxde23:10
gimpygooxfce , lxde... Could you extrapolate the differences quickly ? Or is that better something I read about ?23:11
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deper29gimpygoo: better yet, try them out23:11
gimpygoooh , ok.23:11
deper29I think they are very user friendly23:11
gimpygooIs it an easy process switching them out ?23:11
ZeThomasgimpygoo, some lighter distros are, in order of lightness: crunchbang, lubuntu, xubuntu23:11
deper29yeah23:11
gimpygooIve never tried a different windows system .23:12
deper29I don't know the command off hand, but I imagine it's sudo apt-get install lxde or something23:12
gimpygoooh ok .23:12
gimpygoothanks .23:12
gimpygooOnce again, you guys rock in this channel. .. So damn helpful it makes m e sick to my stomach :)23:12
hitsujiTMOxfce is heavier than lxde, but still a lot lighter than unity/gnome. lxde is missing a bit from being a total DE. best way to install either is to install from their official distros : xubuntu or lubuntu23:13
deper29hitsujiTMO: it shouldn't make a difference installing from repos or installing their distro should it?23:14
Rorydeper29: the "lubuntu-desktop" package includes a lot more than just lxde23:14
deper29that's fair23:14
lvl1roguewafflejock, I've tried the link you gave for changing the login shell but none of the methods work. Does this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1932504) seem like a reasonable method to get my default shell to be bash?23:14
hitsujiTMOdeper29: you'll have a small bit of an extra bloat installing from repos (background services that may not be needed, heavier login manager)23:15
deper29I guess. but you can disable the background services too23:15
deper29mind you, I don't expect that from a beginner23:15
wafflejocklvl1rogue: may work not sure if there are any caveats to setting up a symbolic link for the shell23:15
wafflejocklvl1rogue: did you log out an in after the .profile changes and .login changes23:16
wafflejocklvl1rogue: if not you wouldn't have seen any effect23:16
lvl1roguewafflejock, yes and no. I do not have a .login file in my home directory.23:16
UrielVigilantits a good idea install ubuntu restricted extras on ubuntu 13.10 ?23:16
lvl1roguewafflejock, I do have a .k5login if that helps?23:17
lvl1roguewafflejock, I think that points to the authentication server23:17
Jordan_Ulvl1rogue: If this is really the university's default I would talk to the sysadmin, as it's silly.23:17
RoryUrielVigilant: It's a good idea if you need it. It isn't a *bad* idea and won't break things23:17
cpinedhello I have a flash issue...a while back I lost the ability to watch youtube videos after upgrading my OS...the solution was to insall Nvidia drivers and that worked, although I don't have a Nvidia driver I have an Integrated driver from Intel.  I modified the xorg.conf( I think that is what it is called) and now it behaves like it used to.  The video appears small and with pink,blue tints.  How can I get it to work properly w23:17
cpinedith my real card?23:17
hitsujiTMOlvl1rogue: usermod -s /bin/bash useraccount23:17
cpined00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])23:17
Rorycpined: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what web browser?23:18
cpinedthat is my card23:18
wafflejockhitsujiTMO: account is apparently on university computer system so he can't just change the shell. tried chsh already23:18
cpinedKubuntu 13.10...chrome or firefox23:18
KillBiebsQuestion, I have been trying to apply a patch to Chrome for the first time ever (never patched before) and keep getting an error message that it cannot find file to patch at input line 3. I am typing sudo patch -p162 screen_gtk.patch. Here's the patch file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361661/ Any suggestions? :)23:19
wafflejocklvl1rogue: yeah don't think the .k5login will help, as Jordan_U said this might be something to contact the university tech department about and see what the reasoning is and if they can offer an "official" solution for you23:19
Rorycpined: Can you try installing the package "flashplugin-installer"23:19
cpinedsudo apt-get install ?23:19
lvl1roguewafflejock, hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help... I'll ask the system admins23:20
cpinedrory:flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.23:20
UrielVigilantRory: but when i try to install restrited extras on ubuntu 13.10 it says i must remove first libavutil51 and libavcodec5323:21
UrielVigilantRory: this is a bad thing ?23:22
RoryUrielVigilant: How did you install those packages? Are you using any third-party repositories (PPAs)?23:22
deper29See you later, everyone.23:22
wafflejocklater deper2923:22
UrielVigilantRory iam using playonlinux, epson scan and driver23:23
jharleyhey, I have a box that just elected to start renaming a network interface from 'p2p2' to 'rename5'.. I can't find the udev rule doing this 'move', but it shows up in /var/log/udev.  Help?23:23
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jharley( there is nothing in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules )23:23
RoryUrielVigilant: Can you please run the command : "sudo apt-get install -s ubuntu-restricted-extras" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com then put the resulting URL in this channel23:24
Rory!pm | niee23:24
ubottuniee: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.23:24
cpinedRory:is there anything else I can do?23:25
nieeok23:25
nieeHi folks :)) Any one to help me pls? I have a problem to my Google Chrome browser after try to play Video Clip in youtube (ubuntu 11.04). The sound is "stuttering". Any ideas how to fix this problem?23:25
pouet78Hello I created a schroot with "mk-sbuild --arch armel" it works well by running qemu automatically. Now I have a rootfs already built and would like to work the same way23:25
Rorycpined: Can you go to the page "about:plugins" in Firefox and scroll down to "Shockwave Flash" - What is the value next to "Path:"23:25
pouet78how schroot knows it needs to run qemu?23:26
jhutchinsniee: Try different videos, try different browsers.23:26
UrielVigilantRory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361697/23:26
nemoSo this guy was installing linux for first time.  Wubi.  He ran jockey-gtk to see if by any chance there were any recommended drivers for his graphics card.23:26
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nemoIt recommended a wifi driver, so he installed it.  it installed bcmwl-kernel-source:amd6423:26
nemoAaaand, completely messed up his wifi23:27
nemohe uninstalled it, but wifi is still messed up23:27
nemoany ideas on what I might suggest to try and fix?23:27
nieejhutchins: in different browser i dont have a problem, but i want to use google chrome.23:27
RoryUrielVigilant: It looks like it's OK to remove those packages; they are just differently named in a different repository23:27
nemoniee: google chrome's just a waste of memory :)23:28
cpinedRory:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so23:28
UrielVigilantnemo: but it startup faster then mozzila23:28
nemoUrielVigilant: eh. I hardly ever start up my browser, so haven't noticed.23:28
nemoUrielVigilant: besides fact once it is in mem, doesn't matter much23:28
wafflejock+1 chrome/chromium-browser I just like the debugging tools better23:29
* nemo can't be bothered to check those speeds23:29
nieenemo: good :)23:29
nemowafflejock: firebug ?23:29
nemook. sorry for browser war thing. *shuts up*23:29
UrielVigilantRory so i will remove it, then i will install restrited23:29
nemowell. still interested in suggestions on the broadcom screwup jockey-gtk instigated23:29
nemopuzzled why removing the package did not fix things23:29
RoryUrielVigilant: Insyall restricted, and let it remove the packages23:29
UrielVigilanton terminal or software center it will do it anyay ?23:30
Roryniee: Try reading here http://askubuntu.com/questions/157082/how-do-i-configure-chrome-to-use-the-system-installed-flash-instead-of-the-bundl to see if disabling Chrome's built-in flash, and using the system-installed flash fixes the issue23:30
wafflejocknemo: I do AngularJS stuff Batarang and other AngularJS extension stuff in Chrome makes it much easier23:30
nieeok tnx Rory23:30
wafflejocknemo: don't get me wrong before Chrome I was all about Firebug, it's still nice23:30
RoryUrielVigilant: I'd recommend the terminal: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" - however, you could just install the parts from that package that you actually need - what are you trying to achieve overall?23:30
nemowafflejock: ah. have never used AngularJS23:31
nieeRory: some time sount play good, but some time is "stuttering". problem is not evry time.23:32
XLV!extras23:32
ubottuextras.ubuntu.com is an external !repo for new software made available after the Ubuntu release.  This repository is not part of the Ubuntu distribution and the software is completely unsupported by the Ubuntu team, but the original authors may offer some support.23:32
XLV!repo23:32
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.23:32
nemowafflejock: there's an angularjs firebug addon, but unfamiliar w/ it.23:32
UrielVigilantRory: i did it on terminal. I just want have sure, things will work when i am browsing or playing or working or listen music or dvd in future ..23:33
wafflejocknemo: still getting my feet wet but it's been awesome so far, ramping up on grunt/karma stuff right now for making my builds cleaner and getting some testing going for the client side code... will check that out, with Angular things can get mysterious so the more probing tools the better23:33
nemowafflejock: glanced on AMO before typing :)23:33
RoryUrielVigilant: To install everything from ubuntu-restricted-extras *except* those two problematic packages, you can run: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 liboil0.3 libopenjpeg2 ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-restricted-addons update-notifier-common23:34
UrielVigilantRory: i can do it now , after i already installed in terminal ?23:35
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UrielVigilantRory: or should i remove the package first , then sudo apt-get update and then that command you sugested ?23:36
cpinedRory:was that path correct?23:37
RoryUrielVigilant: If you do the long command I most recently said, you won't have to remove anything because there will be no conflicts23:38
UrielVigilantROry: i did it, and i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361757/23:40
RoryUrielVigilant: Then you already have it installed, and don't need to do anything at all. There are no errors there :) (I don't speak Portugese but I do speak apt)23:43
UrielVigilantRory:  thank your for all ! ;o)23:44
RoryYou're welcome UrielVigilant23:44
gr33n7007hWill any generic joypad work in linux?23:45
wilee-nileegr33n7007h, Do you have one, or are looking for one?23:46
gr33n7007hwilee-nilee, Looking for one which will knowingly work23:47
wilee-nileegr33n7007h, Ah, I would suspect some do. some don't, would be my guess, generally at least on amazon you can find ones that list the IS that will work.23:48
wilee-nileeOS*23:48
jhutchinsgr33n7007h: Most of them are made by or imitate synaptic.  You might get some offbeat one that didn't work.23:48
Andeni've got a keypad (separate numpad) that connects over serial, how can i set it up to work? i've tried inputattach -ps2ser /dev/ttyUSB0 but that didn't work23:48
gr33n7007hwilee-nilee, Will have a look on amazon see what I find23:49
Rorygr33n7007h: I'd recommend shopping around for one as normal, and then quickly searching the Internet to see if it works23:49
wilee-nileegr33n7007h, I buy just about everything on amazon if I need it good return policies.23:49
Rorygr33n7007h: A lack of a large number of results is probably a *good* thing in this case, since it means people didn't have problems to post about :P23:49
FruckiwackiDoes Ubuntu require /etc/crypttab when using lvm on luks?23:50
gr33n7007hwilee-nilee, Good to know cheers23:50
fk_007is there anyway to stop video0 from being used, i just ran motion web cam software and it was working fine but i don't know how to stop it so i hit ctrl+z to stop but webcam is still on and video0 is in use23:50
gr33n7007hRory, Yeah will have search online then check with google23:50
gndlpFruckiwacki: no idea :-/23:51
fk_007so i'm not really looking for how to use motion or anything but in general is there a way to "reset" video0 without restarting the pc23:51
gndlpFruckiwacki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto323:54
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joosseeman i hate to be  dick but canonical needs to pull its head out of its ass as far as hardwaregoes23:54
gndlpFruckiwacki: According to that I think you must use luks23:54
Fruckiwackiyeah.. i was just confused because on Archlinux its enough to supply cryptdevice= as boot parameter23:55
Fruckiwackion Ubuntu it /etc/crypttab seems to be read by initramfs23:55
Fruckiwacki-it23:55
gndlpyeah archlinux is a beast23:55
gndlpthat is what i understand23:56
FruckiwackiArchlinux simply asks for password on boot, Ubuntu doesnt, it just says it cannot find /dev/mapper/x, initramfs has dm-crypt as module loaded. /etc/crypttab is the only thing i havent set yet23:56
Fruckiwackiwill try that next23:57
gndlpI am not sure every reference in that doc is dead23:57
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wolfy1339how do i run a lua script in elevated permissions?23:57
gndlpwolfy1339: what is launching the lua script?23:58
dorianwhat's our favourite ipsec package for ubuntu? or is that like a coke/pepsi question?23:58
wolfy1339i'm launching it in console23:58
joosseeFruckiwacki, you are getting an eror moun ting encrypted volumes preloging?23:58
joosseewolfy1339, sudo doesnt work?23:59
wilee-nileedorian, not support more like. ;)23:59
wolfy1339i tried sudo23:59
gndlpwolfy1339: what happend23:59
wolfy1339command not found23:59
joosseeyour in dos it lookslike23:59
joosseelol23:59
dorianwilee-nilee: hmm?23:59

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