[00:00] <wilee-nilee> I assume more workspaces is more desktops here
[00:00] <sedeki> finally
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:03] <netm_> Anybody know how to nest controllers intol folders?
[00:04] <sybariten> i have a packard bell USB drive thats attached. Its supposed to be 250 gb but im starting to wonder if the actual drive inside is a 120gb.  How do i determine physical drive size?
[00:04] <sybariten> Preferable human readable format
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> sybariten, gparted, disk app
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> disks*
[00:06] <sybariten> wilee-nilee: ok...
[00:06] <sybariten> thanks
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:08] <Serus> hi
[00:08] <Serus> I'm on a UEFI laptop trying to get grub to boot
[00:09] <bag-man> Ping
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> pong
[00:09] <Serus> can somebody help me with boot-repair disk?
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> Serus, You have ubuntu installed and trying to get a grub prompt?
[00:10] <Serus> not, ubuntu, but linux mint
[00:10] <Serus> but yes
[00:10] <Serus> I'm trying to get the grub prompt yes
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Serus, I would use the ubuntu forums for two reasons, 1 people focused on this area 2 mint is not supported here.
[00:11] <lightntangy> hi all
[00:11] <Serus> the browser in boot-repair-disk doesn't work
[00:11] <mrrcp> hi
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Serus, Make a therad with uefi i it and post the bootinfo summary.
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> s/thread/in
[00:12] <lightntangy> does anyone know how to fix kernal panic?
[00:12] <Omen_20> Is it possible to have the Dash search files on other partitions? I have the partition mounted but nothing is coming up from it.
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> !kernelpanic
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> !panic
[00:12] <Ari-Yang> :X
[00:12] <fishduck> hello dire meatbags. Just installed ubuntu, and to my great surprise I've got an 'apache2' server running. Now, what is going on?
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Is it every time?
[00:13] <fishduck> also, what's apache2?
[00:13] <lightntangy> it is everytime
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Has it always?
[00:13] <lightntangy> it has since last night
[00:14] <lightntangy> fresh install on a new machine
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Fixing it I would not know, any background leading to this? Is this a kernel update?
[00:14] <lightntangy> no, its a newly built machine
[00:14] <Squiggle> hi
[00:15] <lightntangy> has never had an os on it
[00:15] <lightntangy> kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on  unknown block(0,0)
[00:15] <lightntangy> that is the specific error
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, This a uefi chip?
[00:15] <lightntangy> it is
[00:16] <Omen_20> I don't know about anyone else, but Ubuntu's dash search is incredibly slow for me. It just sits there and spins for almost all queries.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, Ah, oh boy what fun, hehe, not really the most known subject here, but that info will help.
[00:16] <lightntangy> ha, thanks
[00:16] <sanjay> sir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10
[00:16] <Omen_20> I have a feeling once I install 8.1 next week I'll never look back at Ubuntu's Dash and just run GNOME 3.10
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, If you load a ppa it is basically not supported here, just info.
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, use the stock gnome-shell I do I like it.
[00:19] <sanjay> sir, i can't update from ubuntu 13.04 to ubuntu 13.10  even i can't install updates of ubuntu13.04 pls help me
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> sanjay, YOu have software sources set to all jupdates and have removed the 3rd part repos and if ppa's with ppa-purge?
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> updates*
[00:19] <Squiggle> o.o
[00:19] <Omen_20> I've also got a bug where I can only move windows to horizontal workspaces when using the hotkeys. So if I want to move one up or down, I have to drag and drop.
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> sanjay, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and pastebin all of it.
[00:21] <fishduck> why is an apache server running on my ubuntu installation?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> Omen_20, You can tweak compiz till it's broken and reset it.
[00:23] <sybariten> fishduck: what kind of answer do you expect....?
[00:24] <fishduck> sybariten: "it's there by default" ?
[00:25] <packeteer> is the saucy sources.list borken? I've just installed but updating is failing
[00:25] <fishduck> sybariten: well, did you have any goal with your weird attitude or did you just want to throw that out for no reason at all?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Can you do it from the cli and pastebin it, maybe change the repo from software sources, not broken no.
[00:27] <Squiggle> how do you fix the /usr/bin/mrtg
[00:27] <Squiggle> :/
[00:27] <Squiggle> now it won't work
[00:27] <Squiggle> after removing and installing
[00:27] <packeteer> wilee-nilee: i am using command line. keep getting 404's. tried a few different mirrors
[00:27] <packeteer> gonna recreate my sources.list and try again
[00:27] <sybariten> i just didnt know what you were looking for in terms of answer. Ofcourse its running by default, if you discovered that its... running by default. Maybe you wanted to know something about the philosophy of the ubuntu creators in terms of preinstalled services. F__k if i know....
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Squiggle, Whats is /mrtg?
[00:28] <Squiggle> Multi Router Traffic Grapher
[00:28] <Squiggle> it's like cacti
[00:28] <Squiggle> but this one is uncool
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Is it showing errors at the end?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> oh my uncool, heaven forbid, heh
[00:29] <Squiggle> heh
[00:30] <Squiggle> so
[00:30] <Squiggle> now crontab does nothing
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Here is a nice site for that. http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[00:33] <packeteer> thanks, i was just on there
[00:33] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Are you modifying the connect with a proxy...etc?
[00:34] <packeteer> no
[00:34] <Tetracomm> I bought a laptop a few weeks ago which came with Windows 8. It is a Toshiba Satellite L875D, but Wubi doesn't work, apparently due to UEFI. Can I safely install Ubuntu without Wubi on this Windows 8 machine, despite UEFI?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Tetracomm rumor is yes.
[00:35] <packeteer> wilee-nilee: seems to work now that I've used that site to generate a new sources.list
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, here is another link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:35] <spiluk> Any idea why lightdm screen seems to reload itself when I come to login screen after restarting/booting?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> packeteer, Cool, that's always nice.
[00:36] <lightntangy> wilee-nilee i worked out the issue with the kernal panic
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> lightntangy, That is awesome, good job.
[00:36] <lightntangy> the cd was recognised at boot, but disposed of right after
[00:36] <n008> besides ~/.bashrc file is there anywher I can add bash functions and make them callable from the shell?
[00:37] <lightntangy> so you need to use a bootable usb to bypass
[00:37] <n008> not scripts, but functions.
[00:37] <lightntangy> as far as i know so far
[00:37] <Tetracomm> wilee-nilee: Thank you. I will try now.
[00:37] <lightntangy> thanks for the help
[00:37] <n008> or perhaps make all functions in a script globally available ?
[00:37] <packeteer> thanks for the help wilee-nilee
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:41] <spiluk> hey any idea how to use the "Add Event" menu in datetime-indicator?
[00:42] <spiluk> well nothing seems to happen when I click it
[00:44] <bigbadben> So I have this old project that when a button is pressed on my webpage it runs a script sudo /home/userName/myscript.sh  .  I am not prompted for a password because I edited out sudoers page no pass for only that command. Is this the most secure way to do this?
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> no lol
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> !sudo
[00:46] <spiluk>  /facepalm
[00:55] <guidov> hello. just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a pc. hangs at a login screen, sometimes while the intro sound is played indefinitely until i reboot. strange thing is, if i boot into recovery mode and then choose "resume boot" it doesnt hang and i can use the system
[00:56] <guidov> how can i find out what's causing this?
[00:56] <marcos_> boa noite preciso de ajuda com modem 3g  olivetti já encontrei na net algumas opções mas não sei como editar os arquivos
[00:57] <genii> !br | marcos_
[00:57] <marcos_> #ubuntu-br
[01:01] <richringer> Hi, How can I see what is binding to port 23 and is there a way to disable it? i want to use it for my bbs instead.
[01:02] <KingPin> lsof -i :23
[01:02] <richringer> thanks..
[01:04] <richringer> strange... nothing is bound to it...
[01:14] <gimpygoo> Hello all. Hope you guys are doing well tonight/today.
[01:14] <gimpygoo> Where ever you are : )
[01:15] <deper29> guidov: when it hangs, can you ctrl+alt+f1 into tty1?
[01:16] <pseubodot> is anyone else having breakage issues with sane after an upgrade to 13.10?
[01:18] <freemanjim> cannot
[01:18] <freemanjim> send
[01:18] <freemanjim> test
[01:18] <freemanjim> cannot send to channel ubuntu
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> I disagree
[01:19] <freemanjim> you saw my meg?
[01:19] <freemanjim> message?
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> yep
[01:19] <freemanjim> oh weird
[01:19] <freemanjim> ok
[01:19] <tripp> Hi. I was wondering how i can get a weather applet indicator in my status bar? Using 13.10 I cant find an option. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?
[01:19] <genii> freemanjim: Yes, we see what you type
[01:19] <freemanjim> thanks gents
[01:20] <bigbadben> wilee-nilee, but if they can only not be prompt for a password when they run that whats it matter? It needs to be sudo because that script calls python scriptThatNeedsToBeRoot
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> bigbadben, Not really an area I'm an expert in, it just seemed kinda funky, I should not have said anything really, my bad.
[01:24] <freemanjim> #
[01:25] <Tetracomm> Hello. The Ubuntu liveDVD detected my partitions on my Windows 8 UEFI laptop, but it said it didn't detect any operating systems. Should I go ahead and manually resize a partition to create free space for Ubuntu? (it doesn't offer to resize for me)
[01:26] <freemanjim> #ircbot
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, You want to resize windows from its partitioner in admin leaving a unallocated space.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, Be sure to do a backup of it you are allowed at least one image/clone up to pro which had unlimited, and do a reboot so it run the autochkdsk.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> runs*
[01:29] <Tetracomm> wilee-nilee: Thanks. How do I get into the partitioner?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Tetracomm, It's in admin I usually type disk and it shows, I think it's called disk manager.
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> or management
[01:32] <andreric> Hi, I'm trying to make a dual-boot using Ubuntu 13.10 and Windows 8.1, but when I try to install Ubuntu 13.10 it doesn't recognize the Windows 8.1 installation. Can you help me?
[01:32] <Tetracomm> I think I found it. BRB
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | andreric
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> andreric, More uefi info be sure thats what it is a take a look at the bots info and this thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> andreric, Is the second install W8.1 or ubuntu?
[01:41] <iIlL10Oo> what is this mean ? debian-sa1
[01:42] <iIlL10Oo> it is in cron , but can't find the man page
[01:42] <iIlL10Oo> google "debian-sa1" can't find man page too
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> # Activity reports every 10 minutes everyday
[01:46] <iIlL10Oo> 5-55/10 * * * * root command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1
[01:49] <mjw65ss> I had a successful LFS build using 13.10 as host. After reboot to LFS, was met wit a login screen. Now what.
[01:49] <freemanjim> meh
[01:49] <freemanjim> 1=1
[01:49] <freemanjim> 1+1
[01:49] <genii> iIlL10Oo: Might want to look up sat, sadd/sadc, sar
[01:50] <genii> sa1, not sat, rather
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, log in?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, No user or password we assume right?
[01:51] <iIlL10Oo> genii: what is sadd/sadc
[01:51] <mjw65ss> Booted into new LFS and met by a login screen in terminal
[01:51] <mjw65ss> correct
[01:51] <mjw65ss> I must have missed somethin
[01:51] <mjw65ss> something
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, I would suspect more detail or yeah another try.
[01:52] <genii> iIlL10Oo: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/en/man8/sadc.8.html
[01:54] <iIlL10Oo> genii: thanks
[01:54] <mjw65ss> LFS booted perfect on first try to a login screen. I cant remember if there was any way to set a user and passw
[01:57] <mjw65ss> It was pretty exciting seeing it boot up and work..then the login screen..
[01:57] <bonhoeffer> does anyone know how to view my print jobs
[01:57] <mjw65ss> err prompt
[01:57] <Foxhoundz> i have a crap load of .tar.gz archives in a folder. Anyone know how to batch untar them all into their own folders?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, I'm looking at the manual what does lfs do
[01:57] <bkr4god> good evening all
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> mjw65ss, as a user and myabe password
[01:58] <bkr4god> can someone help me with a printing issue?
[01:58] <mjw65ss> its a completely base system.
[01:58] <bcgrown> I have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> bkr4god, Maybe, give the channel the issues identifying the printer of course in that.
[02:01] <bonhoeffer> I can send a test page, but I can't actually send any print jobs
[02:01] <bkr4god> Ok I have set up Ubuntu 12 in a VMWare and I am trying to connect to a shared printer on a windows computer that is shared.  I have edited the smb.conf file for the workgroup to ensure that it is in the same workgroup.  I have also installed the samba services. I just seem unable to see that Windows computer
[02:02] <mjw65ss> I'll mess with it some more I guess. BUT it's safe to say LFS can be built with Ubuntu 13.10 as a host!
[02:03] <Slade-> does ubuntu have a shortcut for 'adduser' for service accounts (no home directory, /bin/false login, etc)
[02:03] <deper29> mjw65ss: don't you just 'useradd USER'?
[02:04] <CodeOmegaPrime> Slade deper29 is correct that is the best way to add users
[02:04] <Arroweb> hi!
[02:04] <Slade-> CodeOmegaPrime: err i think hes answering someone else. because it doesnt really answer my question ;)
[02:05] <CodeOmegaPrime> Slade sorry misread :) been coding all day :\
[02:05] <deper29> Slade-: I think it still applies to you
[02:05] <CodeOmegaPrime> :P
[02:05] <mjw65ss> deper29: Im stuck at the login/passw prompt
[02:05] <Slade-> deper29: or just 'no' would be fine
[02:06] <Slade-> used unix systems in the past that've had adddummyuser etc
[02:06] <deper29> Slade-: if you do useradd I don't believe it adds a home directory unless you give it the option
[02:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: can you log in as root?
[02:06] <Slade-> deper29: other way around. it adds a home unless you say not to
[02:06] <mjw65ss> tried that
[02:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: did you create an account?
[02:07] <deper29> you could chroot the LFS system
[02:07] <deper29> in fact, that's what I would recommend
[02:07] <Slade-> deper29: i'm essentially doing sudo adduser apollo --no-create-home --disabled-login --disabled-password --shell /bin/false
[02:07] <Slade-> no packages for apollo so gotta install it myself ;/
[02:08] <deper29> Slade-: useradd
[02:08] <deper29> not adduser
[02:08] <mjw65ss> Thanks for the help. Im going to mess with it some more.
[02:08] <Slade-> yea. sorry :)
[02:08] <deper29> mjw65ss: do you know how to chroot?
[02:09] <Slade-> ahh useradd has a -s
[02:09] <Slade-> for systema account
[02:09] <mjw65ss> I tried useradd...then it asked for a password
[02:10] <Slade-> err -r
[02:10] <mjw65ss> The LFS is on its own partition, not on a VM
[02:10] <deper29> mjw65ss: I understand that
[02:11] <deper29> Do you know how to chroot the system?
[02:11] <mjw65ss> no
[02:11] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, I'll walk you through then
[02:11] <deper29> you're in ubuntu right now?
[02:11] <mjw65ss> I cant get passed the login
[02:12] <mjw65ss> no
[02:12] <deper29> mjw65ss: what are you in right now?
[02:12] <mjw65ss> LFS
[02:12] <deper29> so you're logged in?
[02:12] <mjw65ss> its at terminal with prompt..
[02:12] <deper29> the computer you are chatting with me on right now
[02:12] <bcgrown> I have Intel HDA (ALC887) sound and I can't play multiple audio sources at the same time after I upgraded to xubuntu 13.10.  It worked before.  How do I make it work again?
[02:13] <deper29> is that a different computer?
[02:13] <mjw65ss> Sorry Im on different computer
[02:13] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, I was confused :P
[02:13] <deper29> mjw65ss: do you have a usb to boot from that has a linux distro on it?
[02:14] <mjw65ss> ya
[02:14] <mjw65ss> its Linux lite
[02:14] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, boot from that
[02:17] <in_deep_thought> what is the command to check different processes running on different ports of localhost?
[02:17] <mjw65ss> Ok I have another Ubuntu booted
[02:17] <gimpygoo> The more I use Ubuntu.. The more I love it... Im so suprised more people arent on board with this amazing os.
[02:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, go to one of those wonderful terminals
[02:17] <mjw65ss> On the LFS computer
[02:17] <gimpygoo> I cannot believe how fast it is....
[02:17] <mjw65ss> its there
[02:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: yes
[02:18] <deper29> mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS
[02:18] <gimpygoo> I have it installed on an old old comp and its suprisingly fast
[02:18] <deper29> mjw65ss: when you did LFS, did you just make one partition for everything?
[02:18] <gimpygoo> I have I dont know how many applications running right now.. multiple desktops.. AWESOME!!
[02:18] <gimpygoo> Ok, ill stop gushing now.. sorry.. I just had to say it.
[02:19] <deper29> or did you make several partitions?
[02:19] <mjw65ss> 1 partition and a shared swap
[02:20] <mjw65ss> sda3 and shared sda5 swap :)
[02:20] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, 'sudo mount /dev/SDX /mnt/LFS'
[02:20] <mjw65ss> X is partition?
[02:21] <ianorlin> x is drive letter a for first hard drive b for second
[02:21] <mjw65ss> so sda
[02:23] <deper29> mjw65ss: yeah, what ianorlin said
[02:23] <deper29> you got that done though?
[02:23] <mjw65ss> not found
[02:25] <gimpygoo> what is the terminal command to see the incoming and outgoing connections?
[02:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: not found?
[02:25] <gimpygoo> thanks in advance btw..
[02:25] <somsip> gimpygoo: netstat maybe?
[02:26] <gimpygoo> somsip, i was wanting something that actively watches... do you know anything that does that ?
[02:27] <somsip> gimpygoo: netstat -c (try man netstat)
[02:28] <gimpygoo> ok i'll give it a shot.
[02:28] <gimpygoo> Thanks somsip
[02:29] <mjw65ss> deper29: Let me switch comps and join irc there
[02:29] <mjw65ss> thanks
[02:30] <deper29> mjw65ss: join on the LFS one?
[02:34] <vangelis> hello
[02:36] <sweb> my firefox geolocation dosnt work after update to 23
[02:36] <sweb> and later
[02:36] <sweb> currecnt is 25
[02:37] <sweb> any of you guys have same problem?
[02:37] <deper29> sweb: I'm on 24, no issues here
[02:37] <sweb> try this to figure it out : http://www.openstreetmap.org/
[02:37] <sweb> deper29: so it seems be for my network ... isnt ?
[02:38] <sweb> chromium also dosnt work
[02:38] <mjw65ss> deper29: Back
[02:38] <sweb> any depend on os ? or network ?
[02:38] <fishcooker> how to secure ubuntu installation without copying?
[02:38] <deper29> sweb: wait, mine doesn't work
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> sweb: go to google.com and search for "where am i"   is it accurate?
[02:38] <Ben64> sweb: you may want to try the #firefox channel
[02:39] <deper29> mjw65ss: it won't let you mount?
[02:39] <mjw65ss> Im on the LFS computer booted into 13.10
[02:39] <mjw65ss> now
[02:39] <deper29> mjw65ss: can you mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS?
[02:40] <mjw65ss> I need the command again please
[02:40] <deper29> mjw65ss: mount /dev/sdX /mnt/LFS
[02:40] <deper29> if you've already made the LFS directory under /mnt
[02:41] <genii> mjw65ss: Perhaps add: sudo   ...before the command
[02:41] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS does not exist
[02:41] <sweb1> deper29: it seems be for network after changin my network from WiMAX to DSL ... DSL worked :|
[02:41] <kalus> 3
[02:42] <sanjay>  Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me
[02:42] <in_deep_thought> how can I see what is running on a certain pid?
[02:42] <in_deep_thought> what would be the command
[02:42] <deper29> mjw65ss: mkdir /mnt/LFS
[02:42] <fishcooker> how to make the ubuntu box can't copied even cloned?
[02:42] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, yeah, do what genii said
[02:43] <deper29> mjw65ss: do sudo for everything I said
[02:43] <Akinatopsia> hey
[02:43] <deper29> I'll remember to put sudo in there from now on. I promise :)
[02:43] <Akinatopsia> random question: anyone here from oregon or california?
[02:43] <mjw65ss> ok now it says its already mounted
[02:44] <ianorlin> fishcooker I think live dvd can't be copied if you do not mount any writable media but that does not work as a full system and don't have a burner
[02:44] <fishcooker> i mean the ubuntu box ianorlin
[02:44] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, perfect
[02:45] <deper29> mjw65ss: mount -t proc none /mnt/LFS/proc
[02:45] <deper29> mount --rbind /sys /mnt/LFS/sys
[02:45] <sanjay>  Sir, I am using ubuntu13.04, since  its launching now i can't  update it to ubuntu 13.10  it showing  some error occured to run  package manager.. pls help me
[02:45] <deper29> mjw65ss: *do as sudo*
[02:45] <deper29> I forgot :(
[02:46] <deper29> mjw65ss: sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/LFS/dev
[02:46] <deper29> mjw65ss: tell me when you've done those
[02:47] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS/proc does not exist
[02:48] <skelterjohn> hi - I'm trying to install dolphin-emu via ppa (https://launchpad.net/~glennric/+archive/dolphin-emu). I've added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/glennric/dolphin-emu/ubuntu oneiric main" to the repositories via synaptic, but dolphin-emu doesn't show up in the package list. can anyone help me trouble-shoot?
[02:48] <mjw65ss> mount: mount point /mnt/LFS/dev does not exist
[02:48] <kalus> mas:hi
[02:48] <sanjay> sudo apt-get
[02:49] <mjw65ss> ok I mounted the LFS as per LFS book
[02:49] <deper29> mjw65ss: how do they do it out of curiosity?
[02:49] <mjw65ss> export LFS=/mnt/lfs
[02:50] <mjw65ss> mkdir -pv $LFS
[02:50] <mjw65ss> mount -v -t ext4 /dev/<xxx> $LFS
[02:50] <Ben64> sanjay: "some error" isn't helpful. pastebin the full error
[02:50] <deper29> mjw65ss: you umounted /mnt/LFS though, yes?
[02:51] <mjw65ss> No i am mounted now
[02:51] <mjw65ss> as root
[02:51] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, then 'sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/lfs/proc'
[02:52] <mjw65ss> that worked
[02:53] <deper29> 'sudo mount --rbind /sys /mnt/lfs/sys'
[02:53] <deper29> 'sudo mount --rbind /dev /mnt/lfs/dev'
[02:54] <mjw65ss> done
[02:54] <cortexA9> hello all
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'chroot /mnt/lfs /bin/bash'
[02:55] <mjw65ss> ok at bash prompt
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: are you root?
[02:55] <yeyeman> what is the intended gesture to make the launcher bar appear, if it's on auto hide?
[02:55] <mjw65ss> yes root
[02:55] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'passwd'
[02:56] <deper29> set your root password
[02:56] <yeyeman> it feels like i have to rub the cursor against the side for it to happen
[02:56] <yeyeman> and even then it does not always appear
[02:56] <ianorlin> that isn't supported here ...
[02:56] <mjw65ss> ok done
[02:56] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, now do
[02:56] <mjw65ss> now for passw
[02:57] <wafflejock> yeyeman: you can modify the sensitivity in system settings I believe
[02:57] <deper29> mjw65ss: wait, you did passwd already, yes?
[02:57] <mjw65ss> sorry yes
[02:58] <mjw65ss> now user name
[02:58] <yeyeman> wafflejock: yeah ok thanks
[02:58] <deper29> mjw65ss: you don't need to do that now
[02:58] <deper29> I mean, you *can*
[02:58] <sanjay> ben  how to paste bin the
[02:58] <deper29> else, 'exit'
[02:58] <mjw65ss> might as well
[02:58] <yeyeman> are there more themes than radiance and ambiance?
[02:58] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay, tell me when that's done
[02:58] <mjw65ss> passwd is done
[02:59] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, I meant the useradd.
[02:59] <Ben64> !pastebin | sanjay
[02:59] <deper29> do you know how to do the useradd?
[02:59] <sanjay> Ben64:E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_i18n_Translation-en (1)
[02:59] <sanjay> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:59] <sanjay> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[02:59] <mjw65ss> no
[03:00] <deper29> mjw65ss: okay
[03:00] <Ben64> sanjay: PASTEBIN the whole thing, the command, the error, everything. do NOT paste in here
[03:00] <wafflejock> deper29: what are you trying to do
[03:00] <wafflejock> !info useradd
[03:01] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'useradd -m -G group1,group2,... -s /bin/bash USERNAME
[03:01] <deper29> wafflejock: adding a user
[03:01] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah looks fine
[03:01] <sanjay> Ben64.. pls help  me...
[03:02] <sanjay>  i didn't understand
[03:02] <wafflejock> deper29: actually think you may need a -c in there
[03:02] <wafflejock> deper29: ah no just for comment
[03:03] <deper29> wafflejock: not *necessary*
[03:03] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah not necessary
[03:03] <wafflejock> deper29: think I used adduser last time and it walks you through it a bit
[03:03] <wafflejock> !adduser
[03:04] <deper29> wafflejock: you can add to wheel to can you not?
[03:04] <wafflejock> deper29: sorry not familiar with wheel?
[03:05] <deper29> wafflejock: I don't know if ubuntu uses the wheel group or not now that I think of it
[03:05] <mjw65ss> Ok added group and user and passwd
[03:05] <deper29> mjw65ss: 'exit'
[03:05] <genii> deper29: No, doesn't use wheel group
[03:05] <mjw65ss> And that was into the LFS system correct?
[03:06] <deper29> mjw65ss: type the command 'exit'
[03:06] <mjw65ss> done
[03:06] <deper29> 'umount -l  /mnt/lfs/dev{/shm,/pts,}
[03:07] <deper29> 'umount -l /mnt/lfs/proc
[03:07] <deper29> 'reboot'
[03:07] <mjw65ss> ok deper29 I'll tell ya how it goes
[03:08] <deper29> mjw65ss: sounds good
[03:08] <mjw65ss> thanks for the massive help
[03:08] <wafflejock> deper29: ah just read back realized you were helping not asking... sorry bout that
[03:08] <deper29> wafflejock: no worries
[03:08] <deper29> wafflejock: you forced me to read the man pages to see what -c did :P
[03:08] <wafflejock> haha :)
[03:09] <deper29> side note: I've never used LFS
[03:09] <gimpygoo> Heya Waffle! How are ya bud ?
[03:09] <deper29> I'd like to try it sometime
[03:09] <wafflejock> gimpygoo: doing pretty well, putting off a battle with AngularJS and google maps
[03:10] <gimpygoo> lol
[03:12] <gimpygoo> Any recommendation for a webcam application ?
[03:13] <gimpygoo> So I can broadcast a webcam to my gf that is out of town ?
[03:13] <gimpygoo> I want to broadcast on a self hosted webpage using dyns..
[03:14] <gimpygoo> I also have to get my dyns working on ubuntu..
[03:14] <gimpygoo> I need an app that I can redirect my page to this comp.. I know that apache ( at least I think ) is included with ubuntu.... Right ?
[03:15] <mjw65ss> deper29 Thanks that worked like a champ
[03:15] <deper29> mjw65ss: perfect :)
[03:15] <deper29> mjw65ss: were you able to login as both root and your other user?
[03:16] <mjw65ss> Now i need to figure out how to choose between LFS and 13.10
[03:16] <deper29> mjw65ss: are you using grub?
[03:16] <mjw65ss> I logged in as other user and was happy with that
[03:17] <mjw65ss> yes grub2
[03:17] <deper29> which of the two does your BIOS point to?
[03:17] <deper29> does it point to boot from lfs or ubuntu?
[03:17] <mjw65ss> im in 13.10 right now on same comp as LFS
[03:17] <deper29> which is the default now?
[03:18] <mjw65ss> LFS is default
[03:18] <deper29> okay, in your lfs system, I think if you do 'grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg' as root that *should* find ubuntu
[03:19] <mjw65ss> Id rather have 13.10 as default
[03:20] <deper29> mjw65ss: are they installed on two separate drives?
[03:20] <deper29> or is it one drive 2 partitions?
[03:20] <mjw65ss> 1 drive 2 partitions and a shared swap
[03:21] <deper29> mjw65ss: in all honesty, since you're in lfs I would just do the command I did and it should find ubuntu
[03:21] <mjw65ss> im in ubuntu now
[03:22] <mjw65ss> but i will try that
[03:22] <deper29> then you just edit /etc/default/grub and set GRUB_DEFAULT to whichever menu entry is ubuntu
[03:23] <deper29> *however* that might not work. If it has alternate boot options under a submenu of a sort, then you have to edit /etc/grub.d/ stuff
[03:24] <deper29> and unfortunately that's out of my skill because I've never cared to do it.
[03:24] <racecar> Hey! Whats up? 3
[03:25] <mjw65ss> I'll keep working on it and report back. You helped enough already Thanks
[03:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: lol, no problem
[03:25] <racecar> Hey guys what is the best vm for ubuntu?
[03:25] <deper29> mjw65ss: out of curiosity, why did you install LFS?
[03:26] <deper29> !best
[03:26] <deper29> !best | racecar
[03:26] <mjw65ss> Just to see ifI could do it and learn more
[03:26] <mjw65ss> then I hit the login prompt haha
[03:26] <deper29> mjw65ss: that's fair. I've always wanted to try it. Keep considering it, just need the time
[03:27] <racecar> or a better question, can malware thats on a liveusb infect my windows/ubuntu drives? I think it cant, but need confirmation
[03:27] <deper29> yeah, haha, I've had that *exact* problem. I forgot to set my root password before during an install and couldn't do anythnig
[03:27] <mjw65ss> took me about 7 hours total
[03:27] <deper29> sounds right. I think my gentoo install was a bit shorter, but mind you I don't think I had to compile as much as you did
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> racecar, This is not the place for it to be honest.
[03:28] <racecar> ok well thx
[03:28] <racecar> bye
[03:28] <mjw65ss> Thats after 3 trys :)
[03:29] <genii> racecar: Conceivably, if it's something you're running under Wine or such
[03:29] <genii> Hm, too late.
[03:29] <mjw65ss> Ok thanks again deper29
[03:29] <deper29> mjw65ss: no probs
[03:35] <fishduck> can I press a F key in unity to create a new file?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> fishduck, why don;t you try them and tell us.
[03:37] <fishduck> because I didn't want to accidentally delete my CPU. But don't worry, nothing happened ^^
[03:38] <mukti> I need a way to instantly sync files across two servers as soon as changes are made on one. Initially I thought of using NFS; however, if the NFS server goes down, the files are not accessible. Is there a solution that would duplicate files across multiple servers near-instantly (or at least within a reasonable amount of time)?
[03:38] <fishduck> mukti: check rsync
[03:40] <cfhowlett> fishduck, wait, we can delete a cpu?
[03:40] <mukti> fishduck: I had thought of rsync, but would I just set up a cron job to copy the files?
[03:40] <deper29> cfhowlett: yup. I deleted mine by accident last week. couldn't boot ever again.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> deper29, pretty sure that's impossible.  I'm guessing you deleted the OPERATING SYSTEM ... the cpu is (probably) still comfortably seated on your motherboard.  details matter.
[03:41] <fishduck> mukti: I think rsync does exactly what you want. A cron job however, does it on a schedule.. and its effect depends on how you implement the job.
[03:42] <deper29> cfhowlett: nope, I meant what i said. It was why I could never boot again. I deleted the cpu from my life forever.
[03:42] <hnhnhn> Hellllo
[03:43] <cfhowlett> deper29, uh huh.  you realize the cpu - central processing unit, i.e. it's a CHIP on your motherboard?  so you ... transported it to the neutral zone?
[03:43] <mukti> fishduck: okay, I'll read up on rsync more. I'm trying to implement this as a way to provide some sort of redundancy across servers (I'm going to have two servers running, and they need to always have the same files incase one goes down). Thanks
[03:43] <deper29> cfhowlett: no, this isn't star trek...
[03:44] <deper29> I just deleted it. You know, using an equivalent amount of anti-matter
[03:44] <genii> hnhnhn: Hello! If you have a support question regarding your Ubuntu, please just ask your question in the channel, so that someone may assist you.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> just another dimension uh the 6th
[03:44] <deper29> or that
[03:44] <deper29> cfhowlett: I hope you knew I was joking...
[03:45] <fishduck> mukti: you could make a daily/hourly backup.. it depends on what you're up to. If a big file changes every minute, and rsync is unable to transfer just the small changes of it, perhaps rsync isnt the best idea.
[03:48] <mukti> fishduck: the only other thing I was thinking of was maybe some type of distributed parallel fault-tolerant file system
[03:48] <fishduck> mukti: do you need a real time backup, or what?
[03:49] <mukti> kind of. I'm trying to set up failover between two servers, and I want the data on one to be available on the other even if only one of them is up
[03:50] <wafflejock> mukti: how are you storing the data?
[03:50] <wafflejock> mukti: just curious if your using a DB engine for most of it, you may have better options available for replication in that case
[03:51] <mukti> wafflejock: right now, its just stored in a directory on the servers, nothing special
[03:53] <Mace268> Am I correct in assuming thew package updater has an error in the notification area because some ppa's haven't updated to saucy yet?
[03:53] <fishduck> mukti: if you use some kind of syncing software, and the files are many/big, they _will_ be out of sync and different versions will be presented by them. Sophisticated synchronization techniques could solve that though, but i.e. rsync does not do it.
[03:54] <fishduck> Mace268: you shouldn't get an error if there's no updates for your dist.
[03:54] <mukti> This is actually for a school project. I have owncloud set up on two VMs, and I was going to set them up for to failover; but I failed to think out how I would handle duplicating the data across the servers would work. I'm looking into other things like lustre or tahoe-lafs; but I'm not really sure if that is what I'm looking for, or if it is more complicated then what I really need
[03:54] <fishduck> Mace268: if you add "incorrect" ppas for your software updater however, it's plausible (I don't know). Show the error message.
[03:55] <Mace268> fishduck, i get some like this: "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found"
[03:55] <Mace268> they all worked in raring
[03:56] <fishduck> Mace268: quite straight forward. The ppa does not exist. That url is invalid because there's no release for saucy
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: http://ppa.launchpad.net/brandonsnider/cdrtools/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: see how one has saucy and the other has raring
[03:56] <yeyeman> what does line 12 mean? http://files.aigamedev.com/tutorials/aap-AStarCode.png
[03:56] <wafflejock> Mace268: means they don't have a repo setup for your version yet
[03:56] <Mace268> ok that's what i thought, thanks for clearing it up.
[03:57] <wafflejock> Mace268: np yeah you can just try to load in a browser too, if it's giving you a 404 there you're not going to be able to get it basically
[03:58] <Mace268> i guess i can safely ignore the errors until saucy is set up in those ppa's
[03:58] <wafflejock> yeyeman: stackoverflow question not really suitable for the IRC I don't think... intriguing though
[03:59] <fishduck> mukti: it really depends on the kind of data and application.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> Mace268, I would comment that out till it's there.
[04:01] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: +1 better to just have it out for now
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:04] <fishduck> lotuspsychje: morning to you sir, how may I help you?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> fishduck: tnx mate, no issues today
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know i enabled wobbly windows in 13.04 by installing compiz-plugins-extra in ccsm, works flawless after reboot!
[04:07] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: nice always enjoy me some wobbly windows
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: me too, always loved that plugin (wobbly terminal : )
[04:07] <mukti> fishduck: I don't expect huge files. Maybe just a couple mp3s, some pictures, and a few text documents. It's really just to see if we can get a failover setup for two systems, and have data duplicated across systems as close to real time as possible
[04:08] <wafflejock> actually have a minor annoyance in kubuntu can't use Ctrl+Alt+KP4 or KP6 to snap to sides of the screen... need xbindkeys I think
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !info compiz-plugins-extra
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> someone knows why they made this package extra and not default?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> i read one day might have to do with this plugins eat memory to much?
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> It's a bit finicky many mess with it and don't know of the reboot or reset and loose the desktop and some have come crying here.
[04:10] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: yeah think just no need to bloat the system with stuff that isn't going to work well for everyone
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes indeed i had to reboot also, makes sense
[04:11] <Ziber> I have an ubuntu server, with bridged interfaces (p1p1 is the physical ethernet interface, and I have it bridged to xenbr0 for Xen VM connectivity). When bridging interfaces, they both shouldn't show up with an IP, right?
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> I used to to use the unity desktop and saved the config, I like it but use the shell now with synapse and the cairo dock.
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> there is a config save when you get it all tweaked
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: is cairo dock more stable then docky?
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> I like it better, not sure if more stable but more tweaking, I save a config of it to.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: nice, ill try it
[04:14] <wafflejock> Ziber: basic understanding of bridging I would agree with what you're saying
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Ziber: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know it aswell?
[04:16] <wafflejock> Ziber: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[04:17] <Ziber> When I added "iface p1p1 inet manual", I lost connectivity to the box. Which is sitting my house... 200 miles away :(
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: looking nice: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=ubuntu+cairo+dock
[04:20] <babinlonston> Hi All , What is Reverse proxy and what the use of it , in which environment i need it ? and when i need to configure a reverse proxy , How to do it in ubuntu ?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | babinlonston
[04:20] <wafflejock> Ziber: were you typing these commands directly into ssh console
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: believe you told that interface to have no IP
[04:21] <babinlonston> ubottu: ???
[04:21] <Ziber> wafflejock: Well, yeah. You see my dilemma.
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, mines quite simple looking. http://imagebin.org/275701
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: I do
[04:21] <wafflejock> Ziber: unfortunately I have no idea what you can do except relax until you get home
[04:22] <buu> Ziber: Can you power cycle the machine?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: very nice! i like minimal
[04:22] <Ziber> Not remotely. I'm gonna see if my parents will fix it for me. And if I get it back up, I'll put the VPN on a VM, so I'm not messing with the network of the physical machine.
[04:22] <babinlonston> hey i'm asking for configuring in my office man
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, me to I have the top bar recessed, the shell has a lot of nice extensions.
[04:23] <buu> Ziber: That's what I meant, the parent power cycle =]
[04:23] <wafflejock> Ziber: yeah power cycle should do you good since nothing was being updated in the actual networking files yet
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: ill try it in a bit, always loved ubuntu eye candy :p will match the wobbly windows
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> The shell has a wobbly window extension, but not as nice as the compiz one.
[04:24] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: I used to dig the burning windows and exploding windows and everything too but found it was too distracting ultimately.... wobbly is still all good
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: did you try it on 13.04?
[04:25] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: no haven't used them in a bit probably 12.04
[04:25] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: have wobbly on
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: cool!
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: bummed about some of the keybinding issues in KDE it's the only down point I've found
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes, the compiz one is pretty stable
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: you on kubuntu?
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: like need scripts to use the super key by itself and keypad mapping issues
[04:26] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: yeah
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[04:27] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: went from 13.04 Ubuntu to Kubuntu, wanted to be able to customize, which I'm happy with but just bummed about a few of the keybinding issues
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> I used to have the cube and all the fun stuff in compiz, it did not work well on the transition to unity, but I think does again now to some extent.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: hows the speed for you on 13.04 kubuntu?
[04:27] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: speed isn't really much of an issue, SSD and 2.4 GHz Quad-Core with 8 GB of RAM
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: never been able to run cube properly with unity myself
[04:28] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: any linux has plenty of headroom
[04:28] <fishduck> just simply want to  tar -c compressed.tar /some/dir   .. but I'm doing something wrong, now do I not?
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> 11 something it got funky if I remember, sort of
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: nice specs, what ssd brand you run on kubuntu?
[04:28] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: not much for a graphics chipset but really can't notice really any lag doing anything, booting the Win 8 Virtual machine takes about 10 seconds
[04:29] <wafflejock> lotuspsychje: it's a crucial 128GB
[04:29] <wafflejock> always strapped for space
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> wafflejock: i still use an old transcend 8 gig slc on ubuntu 13.04 64bit, and goes rocketfast
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> sudo halt in 3sec
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> I think more would use the shell if they new of the extensions it is moving forward
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: indeed
[04:30] <soldierboy> wilee-nilee, how is it moving forward?
[04:31] <Hilikus> why isn't ubuntu persisting my nvidia-settings? i have 3 monitors attached but only use 1, every time i log in i have to re-disable the other two. I try apply and also "Save to x configuration file" but the settings are always lost after a reboot
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> soldierboy, Just getting better per edition and the independent users are making nice extensions, both unity and the shell are nice though.
[04:31] <wafflejock> Hilikus: believe you need to run nview as sudo for it to have write permissions to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> it sits under unity and compiz
[04:32] <Hilikus> wafflejock: when i do "save to x configuration" it asks for root password, i though it was doing it then
[04:32] <wafflejock> Hilikus: could be just a guess
[04:32] <Hilikus> i will try starting the process as root to see
[04:33] <itsnotlupus> dumb Q: just upgrade to 13.10, chrome refuses to start claiming it can't find libudev.so.0. libudev.so.0 is under /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ exactly where it should be. how would I get chrome to accept that simple fact?
[04:33] <wafflejock> itsnotlupus: take chrome aside and let it know you mean business and it's not getting any TV for a week
[04:33] <wafflejock> :)
[04:33] <itsnotlupus> but Chrome is how I watch all my TV :'(
[04:34] <itsnotlupus> no but seriously. tried ldconfig, no difference. it makes no sense.
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> itsnotlupus, Is it the latest chrome there was a missing something not long ago, I have not seen that complaint here in the last week.
[04:34] <itsnotlupus> fair point. maybe I need to download a new chrome and hope for the best.
[04:35] <the8thbit> My webcam doesn't work in firefox or chromium, but it does work on the desktop with cheese.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> the8thbit: did you select your webcam in the flash window onsite?
[04:35] <wafflejock> the8thbit: yeah was going to ask how are you testing in the browser
[04:36] <wafflejock> the8thbit: Google Hangouts I haven't seen any issues
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> yeah check the adobe controls
[04:36] <wafflejock> the8thbit: but has their own plugin and controls
[04:36] <the8thbit> lotuspsychje, wafflejock: I tried this site: http://webcamtoy.com/
[04:36] <wafflejock> adobe settings defintiely would block but should ask for access too
[04:36] <the8thbit> It says I have a webcam, and the little light on my laptop turns on, but all I get is black
[04:37] <the8thbit> and I think I'm using the HTML5 version
[04:37] <the8thbit> so it shouldn't be an issue with flash
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: all I get is black there too but I have two webcams
[04:37] <the8thbit> Ah
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: may be getting my laptop one instead of the main one but may just be broken
[04:37] <wafflejock> the8thbit: maybe wait for a few more to chime in but didn't work here after allowing
[04:37] <the8thbit> Well, in flash sites, I can't interact with the little popup that asks for my permission
[04:38] <the8thbit> does anyone know what coursera uses for signature track? (flash/html5) That's why I need my webcam
[04:42] <beepie> the8thbit, chrome has the lastest flash
[04:42] <beepie> ,/latest
[04:44] <the8thbit> beepie: I'm using chromium, does that also have the latest flash?
[04:45] <xangua> the8thbit: no
[04:45] <Shaunt> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx mate worked out great!! you made my day: http://oi44.tinypic.com/30wldmu.jpg
[04:48] <czhanacek> Hi everyone
[04:48] <czhanacek> So I managed to screw up one of our iMacs pretty well.
[04:49] <nucc1> hi, what user does cron run scripts as?
[04:50] <czhanacek> I dd'd to the wrong disk (accidentally) when cloning another disk, and that disk was my hard drive. My question is this: Can I just run a live cd to wipe the hard drive and then install Mac OS X fresh?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, cool I like it that setup, it is in .config now to just add to any new install.
[04:50] <czhanacek> Currently, I can't do that from the Recovery OS because it was also trashed.
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx for the hint!
[04:51] <xmetal> brb, trying to figure why my circuitry calculations are wrong again .. (and not even the same way they were wrong the first time)
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> hehe o prob
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> no*
[04:51] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, you'll have to re-grub / bootloader configuration
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> !cron | nucc1
[04:52] <czhanacek> cfhowlett: What is re-grubbing?
[04:52] <xmetal> going to the fridge for a second "fridge raid"
[04:52] <xmetal> :P sorry ... "ot " i know i know
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> That's why I never dd
[04:54] <wafflejock> czhanacek: do you have an OS X installation CD?
[04:54] <wafflejock> czhanacek: if you have that and Apple hardware I don't see why a clean install wouldn't work
[04:55] <czhanacek> wafflejock: Can't find it...
[04:55] <wafflejock> czhanacek: doing it on a hackintosh setup you just need a boot CD you use in advance of popping in the OS X setup disc
[04:55] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, grub tells the computer where to look when you boot.  usually, the last OS loaded writes the bootloader and ignores all the previous OS.  thus, install grub last or reconfigure if you install another OS
[04:55] <czhanacek> Also, I don't have a drive to burn dual-layer DVDs that all the Mac disks seem to be on.
[04:56] <wafflejock> czhanacek: you can order them this is what I started with to do a hackintosh setup http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard
[04:56] <czhanacek> cfhowlett: I'm not exactly looking to use Ubuntu long term
[04:56] <czhanacek> This was more to be an emergency setup
[04:57] <wafflejock> czhanacek: you may want to check out ubuntu while the CDz in the mail :), not sure what other alternatives you would have
[04:58] <wafflejock> czhanacek: if it's still under warranty maybe try to contact an apple store
[04:59] <czhanacek> Alright thanks wafflejock
[05:00] <wafflejock> czhanacek: np sorry it's not such a productive answer hope you get it worked out... dd is a double edge sword
[05:00] <cfhowlett> czhanacek, virtualbox is the way then
[05:04] <Shaunt> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble with my wifi. It'll connect to some signals, but with others it'll disconnect constantly or just repeatedly ask for a password. I'm on an HP Envy M6 using Ubuntu 13.04. Does anybody know how I can fix this issue?
[05:04] <mjw65ss> deper29  Ok,I can now choose between LFS 7.4  and  Ubuntu 13.10 .  Now onto BLFS.
[05:04] <deper29> mjw65ss: BLFS?
[05:05] <deper29> also, was it as simple as editing /etc/default/grub? or did you have to dabble in /etc/grub.d?
[05:05] <mjw65ss> Part 2 has all the goodies to add to base LFS
[05:06] <mjw65ss> I just reconfigured the config file by adding the 13.10 location and menu entry in grub
[05:07] <mjw65ss> Yes it was a simple edit
[05:08] <mjw65ss> BLSF = Beyond LFS
[05:09] <mjw65ss> Then I can get a desktop going
[05:09] <deper29> mjw65ss: ah, I see. So did you have to grab kernel source from kernel.org then?
[05:10] <mjw65ss> No i built one
[05:10] <deper29> no, I know.where did you get your source from though?
[05:10] <deper29> to build
[05:10] <mjw65ss> err..configured and then compiled
[05:10] <deper29> no, I know that. But where did you download the stuff to compile?
[05:11] <mjw65ss> one3 sec
[05:11] <BradTN> anyone know why or have an idea why.. i made my raid 5 on ubuntu
[05:11] <BradTN> but cant write to it...
[05:13] <BradTN> not understanding why!
[05:14] <mjw65ss> Linux-3.10.10  and used menuconfig. I downloaded it from LFS
[05:14] <mjw65ss> ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs/lfs-packages/7.4/      linux-3.10.10.tar.xz
[05:17] <deper29> mjw65ss: oh, cool. I didn't think they did it like that. I guess that makes sense though
[05:17] <deper29> anyway, I'm off to bed
[05:18] <mjw65ss> Thanks again Gnite
[05:23] <fishcooker> where is the /etc/grub.conf.. i want to give password on my grub
[05:23] <fishcooker> grub-md5-crypt
[05:24] <Thete> I'm trying to install 13.10 but the installer is sitting at "Running post-installation trigger update-notifier-common"
[05:24] <Thete> every time, multiple machines
[05:24] <ianorlin> did you check md5sum?
[05:24] <Thete> I'm assuming it's trying to get out to the internet to do something, but whatever the remote end is not responding
[05:24] <ianorlin> or do the self test on the install media
[05:24] <Thete> install media is fine
[05:26] <Thete> I remember this being an issue in previous versions as well, there was something you could do to get it to end the process and continue on
[05:26] <Thete> There a way to drop to a terminal during install?
[05:26] <xangua> hi everyone, after i upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stops being recognized, any suggestion on the issue?
[05:27] <Thete> Has something to do with update-manager trying to download something
[05:27] <Thete> and if you killed update manager it would continue on with install
[05:29] <Thete> Yep, that worked, thank you much :)
[05:35] <r000t> Hello. I'm having some issues adding a third monitor using my iGPU when two are already served by my NVIDIA card. I know the iGPU is turned on because Windows uses the third monitor, and because Ubuntu will display the splash, tty, and kernel messages on the 3rd monitor. The X server only displays on the first two.
[05:38] <BradTN> anyone plz
[05:39] <BradTN> help with a raid
[05:39] <BradTN> i beg!
[05:39] <cfhowlett> !raid
[05:39] <BradTN> im gonna blow my brains out over here
[05:39] <BradTN> i have it mounted
[05:39] <BradTN> but cant write
[05:39] <BradTN> nor figure out why...
[05:39] <FloodBot1> BradTN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <RudyValencia> Hi, I'm planning to set up Ubuntu on my desktop and I'm curious: do I need swap if I have 32GB RAM?
[05:41] <RudyValencia> If so, how much should I allocate?
[05:42] <ticamai> Rudy: With that much RAM, on a normal desktop machine, I doubt you will need swap for anything. I have 4gb of RAM with 4gb swap and can run multiple memory-heavy games at once, with no issues.
[05:43] <ticamai> rudy: If you want to allocate swap, I recommend the same amount of RAM you have, and maybe a tiny bit extra. I believe hibernation may require this, though i may be wrong.
[05:44] <BradTN> ticamai any raid knowledge?
[05:45] <ticamai> BradTN: I'm afraid not. I'm only still early in my RAID training in my job as a NOC technician
[05:50] <kalakadsn> is there any good application for photo viewer, i use gnome image viewer and it is working good only in one instance, when i open multiple windows of the program, cursor gets busy, and this is annoying, nautilus also behaves same, how to solve that, nautilus work fine when i click the icon on the unity panel and when i click icon on my dekstop, nautilus gets busy cursor
[05:51] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, shotwell is a good viewer.   darktable is for a bit more advanced editing
[05:51] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, but it sounds like your gpu might be a limiting factor.
[05:52] <xmetal> i use various viewers (just to try them) myself but for editing, i typically always go back to GIMP ..no matter which OS i am on
[05:52] <RudyValencia> So I need to allocate about 40GB to swap (ideally on another drive)
[05:52] <RudyValencia> ?
[05:52] <Waaan> Palembang
[05:52] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: why gpu is a limiting factor? when everything works fine in nautilus , when i click on the shortcut icon in panel(HOme)
[05:52] <Waaan> Gimana cara main di palembang
[05:52] <RudyValencia> (I'm going to be doing Android building on it)
[05:53] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, what are your system specs.
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Waaan, mmmm ... english?
[05:53] <kalakadsn> a simple dual core cpu  2.2 ghz
[05:53] <kalakadsn> 2 gb ram
[05:53] <kalakadsn> intel integrated graphics
[05:54] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, okay, so an older box with limited ram.  vanilla ubuntu used quite a lot of that.  I'd suggest you do a test.  sudo apt-get install xfce4 && sudo apt-get install lxde
[05:54] <iarinov> #zentyal
[05:54] <rawfodog> Im looking for a gui to edit my grub loader. I want it to skip the grub loader screen
[05:54] <rawfodog> or have the countdown time be 0
[05:55] <iarinov> fracking xchat connection procedures
[05:55] <iarinov> join in one tab, name of channel in other
[05:55] <genii> !info grubconf
[05:55] <genii> Hm.
[05:55] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  see what you think.  If you like, xubuntu and lubuntu might be in your future.  and if you really want to immersed in photo editing, see #ubuntustudio
[05:56] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: when i open file browser from home icon on panel, then there is no problem, even when 10 windows are opened, absolutely no problem, but when i open file browser from desktop icon(Command nautilus) , cursor gets busy, that's it
[05:56] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: no, i don't like lxde
[05:56] <kalakadsn> it's fast but it is not what i lookinng for
[05:56] <kalakadsn> and unity is quite fast on my system
[05:56] <kalakadsn> i am not facing any laggings
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub is the area and GRUB_TIMEOUT= is the time, but be aware if you set it to 0 you may not have access to grub at all.
[05:57] <BradTN> wilee-nilee can you help with raid??
[05:57] <RudyValencia> do western digital USB3 hard disks work on Ubuntu?
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> BradTN, Never touched raid.
[05:57] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: and i don't run too many applications at a time
[05:57] <BradTN> ive used other usb 3 disks on ubuntu fine
[05:57] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee, Id be able to fix it with a live cd thought right ?
[05:57] <rawfodog> ps, thanks
[05:58] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: i usually do file browsing, with internet browsing and chatting etc, sometimes along with music player
[05:58] <kalakadsn> otherwise , a movie player like vlc, with other applications off
[05:58] <RudyValencia> theirs use a "SES" interface along with the USB mass storage interface
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, with a chroot sure, not a good way to go, some can set it to 0 and still get grub I would test it and leave enough like 1-2 seconds, your choice.
[05:59] <kalakadsn> so, RAM is not a issue and CPU is never above 30-35%, so this is not a problem for me
[05:59] <rawfodog> Ill leave it at 1 I guess :)
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, You dual booting?
[06:00] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee,  nope
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, single install should bypass grub
[06:00] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: i tried lxde but it doesn't have any looks. I use dash to search for my favorite application, this is not in lxde and it is easy to find application in dash
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, Try sudo update-grub and see if still there.
[06:01] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: further PCMANFS doesn't have file search feature
[06:01] <rawfodog> wilee-nilee, I just changed it
[06:01] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: and file search is a big issue in ubuntu
[06:02] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, that was my best guess.  nothing more to add.  ask again in channel
[06:02] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: hmm, thanks
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, run a sudo update-grub so it set and see if grub shows at all a single install should not show grub anyway.
[06:03] <rawfodog> ran the update. wilee-nilee, what am I looking for ? its at 0 still
[06:03] <kalakadsn> leave that,  is there any way to improve read write performance to the NTFS file system
[06:03] <kalakadsn> i am getting half the performance , as compared with Windows
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> rawfodog: check /etc/default/grub and the line #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true should be uncommented
[06:04] <Ari-Yang> rawfodog: actually, pastebin /etc/default/grub let me see it
[06:04] <kalakadsn> where to add feature request to ubuntu
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> rawfodog, On a single install grub should not show at boot, what other OS is showing when you run the update? Have you had a dual boot, or removed another OS?
[06:05] <genii> kalakadsn: The traditional way is to fie a bug report against the package which you would like to have the feature, with the title something like "Feature Request" or "Wishlist"
[06:06] <kalakadsn> genii: is there any direct mailing system
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, This a shared ntfs for read and write?
[06:08] <genii> kalakadsn: Not really. Package maintainers ( groups or individuals) have emails but it is considered bad form to contact them directly in this way unless it concerns some dire issue, which a Feature Request is not
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, ntfs faster writes  sudo mount -o big_writes /dev/sdXX /media/tmp  the XX's are the HD and partition
[06:09] <kalakadsn> wilee-nilee: i am using ntfs-3g and there are 2 partitions of NTFS and i tried NTFS-EXT4, ext4-NTFS, NTFS-NTFS, speed are approximately 15 Mb/s for writing, 18 Mb for reading
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> kalakadsn, My concern is this to the windows OS mainly.
[06:12] <Linus> ping
[06:12] <Ari-Yang> :|
[06:12] <Linus> recieved pong :)
[06:13] <Linus> Just popped in to see how things are going with ubuntu
[06:14] <BradTN> not good
[06:14] <BradTN> no one knows raid
[06:14] <cfhowlett> BradTN, most here are desktop users.  ask in #ubuntu-server
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !raid
[06:15] <Linus> raid isnt really ubuntu or Linux related
[06:15] <kalakadsn> how many of you use mobile-broadband, i mean wireless 3g modem and how many of you think, there should be native support to check prepaid mobile balance when people are on metered connections
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !poll|kalakadsn,
[06:16] <BradTN> Linus from tech tips
[06:16] <Linus> It was a poor attempt to make people think I was the god, lol
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[06:17] <kalakadsn> i have a micromax mmx 352g 3g modem, and it is working well in ubuntu but i am not able to send USSD COMMANDs and check my data balance left . I tried Modem manager GUI, GSM USSD, Prepaid Manger, but none of them worked for me, they detect modem well, but when it come to receive USSD response, they fail
[06:17] <BradTN> lol
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> Linus: #ubuntu-offtopic is like a lounge
[06:17] <Ari-Yang> :D
[06:18] <cfhowlett> kalakadsn, suggest you contact the OEM on that.  sounds like they don't fully support linux
[06:18] <Linus> Im here to help if I can
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> Linus: that's fine too, but if you just want to chill as well feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <Ari-Yang> well I'm off~
[06:22] <Linus> Not really of topic for support as it could help with future support help if it happened. What will happen if Debian chooses systemd ?
[06:23] <ianorlin> not sure
[06:23] <Linus> I can see it causing havoc with ubuntu
[06:23] <Linus> thats if they dont choose upstart
[06:24] <kalakadsn> cfhowlett: yes, you are right, new manufacturer and their support is _____  , so no hope from them
[06:24] <kalakadsn> kalakadsn: their service is just a pain,  i am looking for the alternative, i should go with huawei at that time, but now i couldn't do anything
[06:33] <Linus> This channel used to be very busy
[06:33] <Linus> wheres mint chat?
[06:35] <BAMbanda> does anyone know of an irc app for the terminal
[06:35] <geirha> BAMbanda: irssi and weechat-curses are popular ones
[06:35] <BAMbanda> are they both available via apt-get?
[06:36] <Linus> BAMbanda you can use your terminal as an irc client you just need to know irc commands
[06:37] <BAMbanda> Linus, without install anything?
[06:37] <geirha> BAMbanda: Yes, those are the package names I listed
[06:37] <Hrakleaz> y
[06:37] <BAMbanda> Linus, you aren't linus torvalds are you?
[06:38] <Linus> BAMbanda you should without installing anything you will need to google some stuff though
[06:39] <Linus> BAMbanda No I was bored and thought I could trick people in to thinking it ;)
[06:39] <Linus> It worked but I got bored
[06:39] <BAMbanda> haha cool
[06:41] <Linus> ubuntu is dead
[06:41] <Linus> rip ubuntu
[06:42] <Linus> this channel used to be so busy , not looking good.
[06:42] <etfb> Is there a way to convert an Ubuntu system to Lubuntu without having to reinstall from a disk?
[06:42] <Linus> etfb yes there shoud be is it lxde?
[06:43] <etfb> Linus: I believe so.
[06:43] <etfb> I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a second-hand computer and it's too slow, but I can't make gnome-session-fallback work or switch off Compiz, so LXDE looks like the best option.
[06:43] <Linus> etfb then just install lxde from the repo. Removing unity might not be so easy but it shouldnt interfeer.
[06:45] <bazhang> lubuntu-desktop is the package etfb
[06:45] <Linus> etfb Ive done it with kde
[06:45] <Linus> no it isnt
[06:45] <etfb> bazhang: Aha! I was typing out a question to which that was the answer.
[06:46] <etfb> I couldn't find any package named lubuntu-*, but I was using the Software Center and it was slooooooow...
[06:46] <Linus> search for lxde
[06:47] <etfb> bazhang: Is it possible that the various *ubuntu-desktop packages are no longer included in the standard repos?
[06:47] <Linus> ^^ no bazhang is just wrong
[06:48] <bazhang> !info lubuntu-desktop | etfb
[06:48] <etfb> Linus: don't be rude. bazhang does a lot of selfless good work here. He/she deserves respect.
[06:48] <bazhang> etfb, you would need to update soureces.list first; sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:48] <Linus> ok sorry but try lxde
[06:49] <etfb> Linus: though if you're secretly THAT Linus, I guess that wasn't all that rude compared to your usual...  (I love Linus Torvalds, but man does he get grumpy...)
[06:50] <etfb> Trying both now.
[06:50] <Linus> etfb no Im not and yes he does. Got to love the guy though not just for what he created but his persona.
[06:50] <etfb> Linus: True.
[06:51] <etfb> So once it's installed (and yes, lubuntu-desktop does exist, and presumably loads LXDE as part of it, how do I make it the default? I remember something about having to manually enable a different login frontend.
[06:52] <bazhang> etfb, just select in the login window
[06:53] <d351r3d> What is the best way to download the repository for Ubuntu?  Debian has images that I can jigdo.
[06:53] <Linus> etfb its apt-get install lxde. I just did an apt-cache search an thats what came up.
[06:53] <etfb> bazhang: Oh cool. I've noticed that option appeared when I installed gnome-session-fallback (though the WM itself didn't work).
[06:54] <etfb> I wonder what the difference is.  Hmmm...
[06:54] <etfb> !info lxde
[06:55] <geirha> lubuntu-desktop is an empty package that depends on the lxde package, as well as the other packages that will be installed by a fresh lubuntu install
[06:55] <Linus> !info gentoo
[06:55] <etfb> Judging from the amount of stuff I'm getting through lubuntu-desktop, it appears that the -desktop one installs all the "standard" software, not just the basics of the WM.  Makes sense.
[06:55] <geirha> If you install only lxde, you'll be missing some packages you generally want
[06:56] <wafflejock> etfb: believe lots of the DEs have a -full package for getting it "all" in one shot
[06:56] <Linus> etfb you should have used lxde instead of lubuntu-desktop
[06:56] <Linus> ^^ using lubuntu-desktop your doing a Lubuntu install
[06:57] <d351r3d> Is there a somewhat easy process to getting all of Ubuntu repositories in one go or on dvd?
[06:57] <wafflejock> d351r3d: don't think all of the repo would fit on a DVD
[06:57] <etfb> Linus: I would rather get the full system, because then I don't have to deal with crummy apps that make certain assumptions about the WM they're running in.  It's nice to have the option, but for my 8-year-old daughter's computer this method makes more sense.
[06:57] <genii> d351r3d: The repositories are somewhere between 35-40G
[06:57] <d351r3d> Well 20+ dvds. I know.
[06:58] <Linus> etfb ubuntu is left behind
[06:58] <genii> d351r3d: You could use apt-mirror then copy all the files someplace else after
[06:58] <wafflejock> d351r3d: I have heard of programs for getting sets of packages together for an ISO but can't recall any names now, never tried myself
[06:58] <etfb> Linus: I know, but that's fine. This is still quicker than downloading, burning and installing a fresh Lubuntu system.
[06:59] <d351r3d> I'm not tripping on the size of the repository. I just know to me that it's mostly unknown to a mortal how to acquire it.
[06:59] <Linus> etfb maybe
[07:00] <wafflejock> genii: apt-mirror nice
[07:01] <wafflejock> genii: do you actively use this?
[07:01] <d351r3d> So apt-mirror is the way to go? Would it collect all of the repositories that are connected during?
[07:01] <genii> wafflejock: I've used apt-mirror previously to host a repository offline for computer labs which were not internet-connected
[07:02] <wafflejock> genii: cool... seems like it might be fun to do just for edutainment value... have a local mirror for doing setups faster too perhaps
[07:02] <Linus> Ive found the ubuntu mirrors hard to find. I tried finding the source for the ubuntu installer (forgot the name) ap....
[07:02] <wafflejock> currently learning the ropes on Grunt.js so one thing at a time but will try to stash that memory
[07:02] <geirha> d351r3d: #ubuntu-mirrors likely know the various way you can do the mirroring
[07:03] <babinlonston> Will DNS replace my system IP address by using my system name ? if i configured a Local DNS server ?
[07:03] <wafflejock> babinlonston: DNS only resolves a name to IP it doesn't replace the IP
[07:04] <babinlonston> wafflejock: then did i need to set the ip address for my host manually ?
[07:04] <d351r3d> Apt-mirror seems the way to go. I'll give it a shot after I jigdo the debian repos.
[07:04] <wafflejock> babinlonston: if you just want to change the setting for how you resolve a name locally you can use the /etc/hosts file
[07:05] <xino77> quick question. Is there a command to verify all packages in release is installed and if all packages are correct?
[07:05] <wafflejock> babinlonston: if you want everything on your network to resolve a particular name to a device then you'll want some sort of DNS
[07:05] <babinlonston> wafflejock: ok let me explain
[07:05] <chaotix> hey
[07:05] <Linus> babinloston What you mean by system ip? The world sees your router ip and no they cant route to your pc unless your router is missconfigured.
[07:07] <babinlonston> wafflejock: we have 20 ubuntu 12.04 client machines and a server , i need to get assign ip address automatically , every time it Don't need to rotate the ip other machine , how can i dot it
[07:07] <xino77> babin need to set that up at the dhcp server
[07:07] <babinlonston> Linus: I'm talking about local Ip address in my LAN
[07:07] <wafflejock> babinlonston: sorry don't understand why are you not using DHCP to assign addresses what does it have to do with DHCP?
[07:07] <xino77> and can set up the ip by mac address
[07:08] <xino77> or set up each machine with its own static ip
[07:08] <wafflejock> DNS rather
[07:08] <cloudgeek> open a port using iptables ? in ubuntu
[07:08] <wafflejock> babinlonston: yeah you use DHCP server to give out addresses
[07:08] <Linus> babinloston If you have that many machines that need to be public facing. You are in the wrong channel 2) You are useless
[07:08] <wafflejock> babinlonston: or assign static IPs per machine
[07:08] <babinlonston> wafflejock: will u please then explain what the need of DNS server ?
[07:08] <wafflejock> DNS is just to resolve a name to an address
[07:09] <wafflejock> so say you wanted to name them labComputer1 labComputer2 etc.
[07:09] <xino77> babin, DNS is domain name resolution.  Get's the IP of google.com or ubuntu.org
[07:09] <wafflejock> you would need DNS so you can reference by name to get the IP
[07:09] <wafflejock> xino77: example is good
[07:09] <babinlonston> Linus: close your trap , you too came to know and no one know every think by knowing new things only we can learn step by step
[07:09] <wafflejock> nslookup google.com
[07:09] <cloudgeek> where I can find the config file for iptables on ubuntu
[07:09] <wafflejock> resolves to 173.194.46.78
[07:09] <wafflejock> ns lookup utiltiy does DNS lookup so finds the IP from the name
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: what you need is DHCP but all routers will do this basically
[07:10] <Linus> babinloston well said
[07:10] <babinlonston> wafflejock: you right i need to asign the name as system1 system2 likewise i need to assign for 20 computers in my lan
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: okay if the goal is to have them by name then you are going to want to be messing with DNS
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: but realize this doesn't affect the IPs
[07:10] <wafflejock> babinlonston: it only  resolves to them
[07:11] <Linus> babinloston what your asking depends on your router
[07:11] <xino77> any one here know of a console command to check if all packages of a distro are installed correctly?
[07:11] <babinlonston> ok
[07:11] <wafflejock> your router basically is probably handling the DHCP if you're currently able to get online with multiple machines and haven't touched any of the router configuration yet
[07:12] <wafflejock> babinlonston: anything you do within the LAN won't be really visible from the outside without setting  up port forwarding and having external authoritative DNS servers updated to reflect name changes but you should be able to configure your own internally
[07:12] <babinlonston> yes i have automatic ip assign from router , but i need to assign hostname as you said lab1 lab2
[07:13] <babinlonston> ok
[07:13] <fishcooker> is there grub-md5-crypt comman on grub 2?
[07:13] <Linus> fishcooker hi, why you asking?
[07:13] <wafflejock> babinlonston: I don't have experience with doing this myself so I'll have to defer to anyone else here but I would probably start here if you don't get answers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[07:14] <fishcooker> i just want to our grub menu is not editable, Linus?
[07:15] <babinlonston> ok let me have a look
[07:15] <cloudgeek> I used on ubuntu 12.04
[07:15] <cloudgeek> Iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:15] <cloudgeek> iptables.save > /etc/iptables.rules
[07:15] <cloudgeek> still ssh port is not opened ??
[07:15] <FloodBot1> cloudgeek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:15] <Linus> babinloston what do you need dns for on a lan unless its enterprise?
[07:15] <multivak> babinlonston: it seems to me you are gonna need ddns for that
[07:16] <wafflejock> Linus: I've thought about doing it at home before just for consistent name resolution
[07:16] <babinlonston> Linus: Don't need your help , many people's are here to help me
[07:16] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:16] <babinlonston> iptables-save > /etc/iptables.up.rules
[07:17] <Linus> wafflejock if your askig advice how to setup dns on a LAN I wouldnt  use it as their are ways to spoof it.
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo apt-get install iptables-persistent
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent save
[07:17] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: sudo service iptables-persistent restart
[07:18] <Linus> the debian way of controlling iptables annoys me Red hat rule :)
[07:18] <babinlonston> cloudgeek: no need of restart upto save is enough
[07:18] <cloudgeek> babinlonston: thanks
[07:18] <wafflejock> Linus: nope wasn't really asking for advice though now I am a bit curious what do you mean about spoofing it?
[07:19] <wafflejock> Linus: I'm just saying so people within my LAN can use certain computer names for connecting to devices (I do web development stuff nice to be able to show people stuff on their devices without configuration)
[07:19] <Linus> wafflejock its about spoofing IP or UDP packets bitt to out of depth for ubuntu chst
[07:20] <babinlonston> Linus: Don't think yourself a Linus Torvalds
[07:20] <wafflejock> Linus: just don't see how spoofing would be relevant in a LAN situation
[07:20] <babinlonston> wafflejock: thanks mate
[07:20] <wafflejock> babinlonston: sure thing best of luck
[07:20] <Linus> wafflejock I have some experience in hacking. Never think your unbreakable!
[07:21] <Linus> No Im not the real, Linus
[07:21] <wafflejock> Linus: I just don't get paranoid behind my router... on my home network
[07:21] <babinlonston> Linus: if you do it , its not hacking , its mean baking lol
[07:21] <IdleOne> Linus: Would appreciate if you drop the condescension and elitist attitude. If you want to help in here please do it without being a jerk.
[07:21] <wafflejock> Linus: I get paranoid on my AWS server :)
[07:21] <fishcooker> kick Linus :-D
[07:21] <IdleOne> !guidelines > Linus
[07:23] <abyssus> whois xjiujiu
[07:24] <multivak> that was a lil drama
[07:25] <wafflejock> eh happens every few hours
[07:30] <jony_easyrider> after I reinstall Ubuntu 12.04, the EXE files doesn't appear with their own icon, please help
[07:31] <xmetal> eh?
[07:32] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: exe files are compiled executabled for windows they won't run in linux
[07:33] <xh_> cause .exe file cannot run in ubuntu without wine
[07:33] <wafflejock> yeah correction they won't run without wine
[07:33] <wafflejock> !wine | jony_easyrider
[07:34] <jony_easyrider> wafflejock, I'm old in linux :P I know about wine... The programs are running fine, but their icons all the same.
[07:34] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: okay the question was just stated in a weird way
[07:35] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: the .desktop files have an icon defined?
[07:36] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39394/change-icon-of-wine-application-in-unity-launcher
[07:36] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: it looks like quite a few people ran into this if that's your issue... seen a couple askubuntu posts about it
[07:37] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: I just depend on VirtualBox so wine stuff is mostly foreign ground
[07:40] <jony_easyrider> wafflejock, ty
[07:41] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: np that work out?
[07:57] <thomson112> what's the best desktop environment to use on a laptop?
[07:58] <bazhang> thomson112, that depends on the laptop, and your tastes
[07:58] <jnhghy> I've just received a ssd hdd that I want to use for my laptop and it is quite cold... should I wait for it to get to a room temerature before using it or can I use it as it is?
[08:06] <laosan> hello
[08:08] <laosan> quit
[08:08] <Eques> netsplit
[08:09] <laosan> quit: Ex-chat
[08:12] <buu> So I just spent 3+ hours assembling a computer and I just screwed the case in, and I just realized it has two hard drives in it. What do you think the odds of the ubuntu 13.10 installer not actually crashing are?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> buu, we betting on your skills or 13.10's stability?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[08:13] <sharnywoop> is it better to use the 'software center
[08:13] <sharnywoop> ' or sudo apt-get install?  which one will get you amore up to date program?
[08:14] <bazhang> no difference
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> sharnywoop, all the same repos use what you are comfortable with.
[08:14] <sharnywoop> crap really?   i've been listening to idiots...
[08:14] <cortexA9> hello
[08:14] <bazhang> !manual | sharnywoop
[08:15] <cortexA9> can i download old release of ubuntu ?
[08:15] <bazhang> cortexA9, how old
[08:15] <cortexA9> the first ubuntu ?
[08:15] <cortexA9> for testing
[08:16] <bazhang> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/  cortexA9
[08:16] <buu> cortexA9: Just download debian, it'll have about the same programs..
[08:17] <cortexA9> good thanks bazhang
[08:17] <jnhghy> is there an irc for hbcd?
[08:17] <bazhang> !alis | jnhghy
[08:17] <NGabi> Hi! I have a task in which I have  change the permission of the owners for their home directories. Then I am told that the GID of the folders should be right  set. What should I set the GID?
[08:19] <ripthejacker> If I have an unsolved problem about Ubuntu, where should I ask, askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums.org?
[08:19] <bazhang> ripthejacker, here and both of those
[08:19] <ripthejacker> bazhang: Ok thanks
[08:20] <helmut_> hi
[08:20] <ripthejacker> I have a .desktop file,  which when I try to run , fails silently.
[08:21] <ripthejacker> But when executing the 'Exec' entry from the command line, it works fine.
[08:21] <ripthejacker> And trying to open the .desktop with xdg-open opens the .desktop file in a text editor
[08:23] <you_> hello! is it best to install Oracle JDK or JRE first ?
[08:23] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5172/running-a-desktop-file-in-the-terminal  ripthejacker as detailed here?
[08:23] <you_> *better
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, can you right click then properties then navigate to the terminal in /usr/share/applications and have it open with it?
[08:25] <ripthejacker> bazhang: It's working that way, In short, the 'Exec' entry is not faulty
[08:25] <shadowflee> hey guys
[08:28] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: I cannot change the open with property of that file
[08:28] <ripthejacker> Actually It has no such property
[08:30] <wilee-nilee> ripthejacker, You had mentioned a text file openong thought maybe you could.
[08:30] <NGabi> What should a GID be when you change permissions for a folder?
[08:30] <ripthejacker> wilee-nilee: yes, by using xdg-open
[08:31] <ripthejacker> If i try to run that file in terminal directly , It parses the lines inside the file as shell commands.
[08:31] <juniour> hi how can i update my ruby ??
[08:33] <shadowflee> hey guys ?
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: install rbenv
[08:33] <dan> Hi
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: from the ppas
[08:33] <juniour> i need ruby 1.9.3
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: sudo apt-get install rbenv
[08:33] <jalcine> juniour: saucy/13.10 comes with that version
[08:34] <juniour> jalcine im on ubuntu 12.04.3
[08:34] <BanjoFrail> hi there
[08:36] <yeyeman> sometimes the unity launcher does not appear from autohide
[08:37] <yeyeman> how to restart it?
[08:39] <jalcine> juniour: look into using rbenv
[08:41] <BanjoFrail> I want to remove an custom installed font, but I just dont know how. I searched forums, but wihotu any solution that worked for me. Can someone help me?
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, The right click and tab area where you clicked the hide has a pressure adjuster to show it.
[08:42] <cartusia> I keep trying to pay for more space
[08:43] <cartusia> but it is not allowing me
[08:43] <cartusia> in ubuntu One
[08:43] <cartusia> is it down?
[08:43] <FloodBot1> cartusia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:43] <cartusia> this has been true the past couple of days
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, There are unity compiz resets for release's look up your if needed.
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> your's*
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Do you really need to remove it or just set what you want?
[08:47] <SMWim> hello
[08:47] <SMWim> I'm drunk
[08:47] <SMWim> as a skunk
[08:47] <SMWim> ufos are real
[08:49] <BanjoFrail> wilee-nilee: i want to replace the otf with ttf
[08:49] <Guest86861> My headphone is not showin in sound manager ! what should i do ?
[08:50] <multivak> SMWin: drunk on sunday? Really cool
[08:50] <SMWim> mondasy birtch
[08:53] <cortexA9> hello, how to suggests an idea for ubuntu ?
[08:53] <SMWim> SUXK ME DICK
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Out of my general area, all I can do is google, which I did and see various instructions, not sure whivh refer to exactly what would work for you.
[08:53] <cortexA9> *suggest
[08:54] <wilee-nilee> which*
[08:55] <BanjoFrail> wilee-nilee: all instructions are about on specific folder where custom fonts are placed. but just not on my ubuntu
[08:56] <cortexA9> hello, how to suggest an idea for ubuntu ??
[08:58] <sharpnel> hello i was just wandering if is there any way to make ubuntu make every new file and folder created under my home directory with modes 0700?
[08:59] <cortexA9> is it possible to make a Teamspeak server for Ubuntu ? like ts.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <uncle_ben> so i buy and install a geforce 6200 for an older system with dual boot xp and peppermint (an ubuntu derivative)...booting into xp i see a splash screen, then nothing...booting into peppermint, i see nothing...booting system rescue cd, i can boot into X normally...what's going on?
[09:00] <skebcio> how can I change the user postgresql is run as ?
[09:01] <geirha> sharpnel: put ''umask 077'' in your ~/.profile
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, neither supported here, you want to find a peppermint forumor channel.
[09:01] <sharpnel> geirha, thank you. it works
[09:01] <geirha> sharpnel: Note that files are generally not created with execute bit set, so files will end up with 600 and directories with 700 with that umask
[09:01] <daron> hello all
[09:02] <sharpnel> geirha, it is fine for me i just donw want others to see them
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, or ##windows if you are registered with freenode
[09:02] <sharpnel> i regulary run chomd -R 0700 * on my home folder but it has beign very anoying
[09:03] <geirha> sharpnel: Another way is to simply   chmod 700 "$HOME"  Then it doesn't matter what mode the files in your homedir has, since no one will be able to read or enter your homedir
[09:03] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, it's a simple hardware question...has nothing to do with the underlying OS although it seems to work with system-rescue-cd which is gentoo-based
[09:03] <sharpnel> yep :P
[09:03] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, anyway, does it matter much?  the channel is slow
[09:04] <geirha> sharpnel: chmod -R 0700 is a bad idea. That'll make all files executable; only files that are meant to be executable should be executable
[09:04] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, maybe ##hardware than, it is just a channel norm is all, nothing personal.
[09:04] <uncle_ben> wilee-nilee, already on that channel...anyway, i don't think you should stress about it so much
[09:05] <xmetal> uh
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> uncle_ben, Heh, I'm not.
[09:05] <uncle_ben> k
[09:05] <sharpnel> geirha, it is true but since i had no problems till now and i have alot of source codes and stuff it works fine for me to have them executable
[09:09] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, The repos are full of ttf fonts install what you want and use them, many install the restricted-extras to get the ttf-mscoreinstaller-fonts
[09:11] <excognac> ikonia: hi. the machine looks stable (i'm on it now)
[09:12] <BanjoFrail> in dotn understand, sry
[09:12] <cortexA9> sry changed idea, is it possible to make a Mumble server ?
[09:12] <BanjoFrail> but you mean i can just install them without removing the old one?
[09:12] <excognac> ikonia: but it had 4 kdesomtehing screens up upőon boot, blank bléack windows
[09:14] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Yes, probably easier to see them from synaptic install it sudo apt-get install synaptic and what desktop are you using?
[09:14] <BanjoFrail> iam using ubuntu since 1 week, i understand absolut nothing what your asking me
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, Ah, thats okay synaptic is a package manager, the command is for the terminal. The desktop is what you guided user interface is to use the computer.
[09:17] <buu> Can anyone point me at an easy way to get a single package+deps from 'trusty' if I'm on 13.10?
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> !manual | BanjoFrail this might help
[09:17] <BanjoFrail> thx
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> BanjoFrail, No problem, we want you to understand and have fun, but yes you can install fonts that you want and use them.
[09:18] <xx4h> "emits SOMETHING" in upstart can also be used for "stop on stopping SOMETHING" afterwards?
[09:20] <buu> Failing that, how the hell do I get broadcom wl to compile on ubuntu?
[09:21] <geirha> xx4h: For specifics about upstart, #upstart may be a better channel to ask
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> buu, you seen the broadcom wiki?
[09:22] <buu> wilee-nilee: No..
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> !bcm
[09:23] <xx4h> geirha, thx.
[09:23] <buu> Thanks
[09:23] <sajjad> I run this command: "nautilus -q" in terminal it showed this error: "sys:1: Warning: g_object_set: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed" what's the problem?
[09:24] <sajjad> is there anyone here?
[09:25] <buu> wilee-nilee: Oh, I have seen that. It doesn't really answer any of my questions. I need a more advanced version of the driver.
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> sajjad, why the -q
[09:25] <buu> So I either need to compile the broadcom one or get one from the next version of ubnutu
[09:25] <buu> ubuntu
[09:26] <sajjad> wilee-nilee, after adding an extension
[09:27] <tbird> where can i find the edubuntu wallpapers? i installed them from software center but they are not in my xfce desktop properties. where can i find them?
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: i tweaked things a little: http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zwg6xt.jpg
[09:36] <buu> Augh why won't this compile
[09:37] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, looks good more stuff, not the 3d look now.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: yes i like it to stay ontop, so smaller and not 3d
[09:38] <Guest82464> does zram offers any performance on xubuntu with 2gb ram?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: tnx again for hint, its very pro cairo dock
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Yeah I like it rather than all the panels, with synaptic its all I use.
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> synapse er
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: old skool mind :p
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Yeah, I sort of adapted to the new desktops, I don't complain about them, lol.
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: me neither :p
[09:42] <eutheria> i was wondering if there is a server like lync for linux
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> eutheria, what server there is a search in your irc app most likely.
[09:48] <wilee-nilee> I misread that sorry, never heard of lync
[09:49] <eutheria> wilee-nilee: lync is a ippbx, with im and video conferencing,
[09:51] <wilee-nilee> eutheria, If you are registered ##linux may have some users that would know, if you get no answers here.
[09:53] <eutheria> wilee-nilee: thanks
[09:53] <eutheria> very quiet in here
[09:53] <zaq_> по русски где спикают?
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> yeah this channel is busier daytime us and european time basically
[09:54] <k1l_> !ru | zaq_
[09:54] <wilee-nilee> should pick up soon
[09:56] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru нет в списке каналов
[10:00] <zaq_> russian speake - where????
[10:01] <k1l_> zaq_: like the bot said to you already: #ubuntu-ru
[10:02] <moppy> eutheria, I assume you want something you can run in-house and can't use google apps for that?
[10:02] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru  - not in list!! russian speak - where????
[10:03] <moppy> zaq_, #ubuntu-ru
[10:03] <eutheria> moppy: does google apps do an ippbx?
[10:03] <zaq_> ubuntu-ru  NON IN LIST
[10:03] <eutheria> moppy: running inhouse is best,
[10:03] <moppy> eutheria, voip exchange server?
[10:04] <eutheria> moppy: and exchange runs on linux?
[10:04] <moppy> eutheria, they have pretty good video conferencing with hangouts: they use it internally themselves
[10:04] <Debolaz> Hmm.... I have a directory that's g+s www-data, but when I rsync into it, the files becomes owned by my own group. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? I thought the setguid bit would force ownership to a specific group?
[10:05] <eutheria> moppy: i guess i should get out of the mentality of doing it all myself
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, i dont know of any traditional server that would do it on linux, but you might see if redhat has somethng
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, or ask ##linux
[10:05] <moppy> eutheria, or just use google apps, it does it or they couldnt do it themselves internally
[10:07] <k1l_> zaq_: "/join #ubuntu-ru" to join that russian channel
[10:08] <eutheria> thanks moppy
[10:08] <moppy> i've told ubuntu-ru (in english) they have a refugee lost here, and come and pick him u pplease
[10:08] <Ben64> Debolaz: you've got something wrong, check everything
[10:08] <selig5> d
[10:08] <zaq_>  #ubuntu-ru - this is chanell in what server??
[10:08] <Ben64> zaq_: this server, just type "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[10:08] <k1l_> zaq_: in freenode
[10:08] <moppy> freenode #ubuntu-ru
[10:09] <moppy> hopefully he should vanish in a cloud of PMs :-)
[10:09] <zaq_> NO ubuntu-ru this servtr!
[10:10] <Debolaz> I hate Linux filesystem permissions. :P
[10:10] <k1l_> zaq_: this is not true. i just joined the #ubuntu-ru channel.
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> zaq_: #ubuntu-ru is a channel on the freenode server which also has the #ubuntu channel on, which you are in now
[10:11] <moppy> Debolaz, they're a bit arcane, and hard to manage with large systems. But permissions are quite complex and i don't thnk there's an easy alternative. Remember it has to work for small and large systems
[10:11] <s1nce> testip
[10:12] <Fecondo> Hello! I got a problem: I try to compile a package (nginx) from sources but only usr/share/docs seem to be put into that package. Doesn't anybody know what can be a problem and where to look for a solution?
[10:12] <Debolaz> moppy: It shares the same problem as early java did: It's so simple that it doesn't really work well for anything, and the workarounds you have to go through as a result are incredibly complex.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Fecondo: is there not a deb?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !info nginx
[10:12] <caron_> l
[10:13] <moppy> Fecondo, are you saying the sources only have the docs and not the code?
[10:13] <Debolaz> moppy: Today, I learnt that the setgid bit on directories is useless, because it can be overridden and hence doesn't guarantee anything.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Fecondo: install using apt-get, why are you compiling?
[10:13] <Debolaz> moppy: And default behavior of rsync -avz is to override it.
[10:13] <Fecondo> moppy: I doubt it, there is also code, while compiling some .c files' names printing
[10:13] <moppy> i had to compile apache as i didnt like ubuntu's security options. i dont know what his use case is though
[10:14] <Fecondo> ActionParsnip: There is a deb with no binary executable (but exists in original package)
[10:14] <Fecondo> I'm getting sources by apt-get source nginx
[10:15] <moppy> Fecondo, is this a silly question, but how do you know it only builds the docs? did you check the paths, and do you on your system need sudo to install it?
[10:15] <sara_> why when i have a network speed of 16.6289062 Mbps am i not able to streem a bbc radio programme via iplayer
[10:15] <moppy> Fecondo, oh i've not sed apt-get source: i have no idea what it does. can you get the code from their repo?
[10:16] <Fecondo> moppy: After installing I didn't found it in FS, so I opened .deb as an archive and didn't find an executable there also
[10:16] <Ben64> Fecondo: you really should be using the repositories instead of compiling
[10:16] <moppy> not sure if there's supposed to be an executanle in a source deb.... just get the code form nginx's site/repo
[10:16] <Fecondo> Ben64: There is no way to install a module to nginx but compiling sources
[10:18] <Ben64> then find a ppa with the configuration you like? or use a different server?
[10:18] <zaq_> "/join #ubuntu-ru"
[10:18] <nii236|RPi> `/part
[10:18] <nii236|RPi> /part
[10:18] <Ben64> zaq_: without the quotes
[10:18] <Fecondo> Ben64: I didn't find ppa with this package. Using different server, heh? Amusing tip
[10:19] <moppy> Fecondo, http://wiki.nginx.org/Install#Source_Releases
[10:19] <Ben64> better than trying to compile something and trying to keep it updated
[10:19] <moppy> Fecondo, ppl here are afraid of compiling; if you get stuck try #nginx or something
[10:20] <Ben64> not afraid, but it can mess up the system
[10:21] <Fecondo> moppy: It happens to have its own repo... Cool, I didn't realize that. I'll try to deal with sources from their repo. Thank you.
[10:21] <moppy> Everyone who isn't nobody has their own repo these days
[10:22] <enyc> moppy: lol =)
[10:23] <k1l_> !register > zaq_
[10:23] <enyc> moppy: and many expeienced people seem to have given up on ubuntu as-is... hey-ho =(
[10:23] <moppy> i don't understand that
[10:24] <moppy> Ben64, can you try to get them to PM him in russian? it might be the only way
[10:24] <Debolaz> Would it be possible to use some other mechanism other than parentdir setgid to ensure the content of a directory is always owned by a specific group? ACL or something?
[10:25] <Fecondo> Ben64: "trying to keep it updated" - that's quite simple by the way, just use configuration management systems
[10:25] <Ben64> what? you'd need to recompile it for every bugfix
[10:26] <moppy> well it;s not hard once you done it once; make && make install, and go make coffee
[10:26] <Fecondo> Ben64: So what? You have to reinstall it for every bugfix. Difference just in minutes
[10:26] <moppy> s/you/you've
[10:26] <Ben64> well look at all the trouble you're having doing it once
[10:27] <moppy> Ben64, most packages are "clone from git (1 command); ./configure; make; sudo make install" and it;s done
[10:27] <Fecondo> Anyway, there is no way to install module to nginx dynamically, so we jsut must figure out a solution
[10:28] <Fecondo> as Nginx is a candy and almost an unique instrument
[10:28] <moppy> i've no experience with nginx, it's supposed to be faster and lower memory footprint than apache, right?
[10:29] <ljunggren> I can't start firefox unless "sudo firefox" how come? i haven't done anything really?
[10:29] <Fecondo> moppy: it's much faster there is load balancing etc
[10:29] <moppy> Fecondo, btw there are 500+ people in #nginx
[10:29] <moppy> Fecondo, probably >1 of them knows how to build it
[10:29] <Ben64> ljunggren: pastebin the error trying to run it from command line, and you should never run "sudo firefox"
[10:30] <ljunggren> ok
[10:30] <ljunggren> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/pvPqQ4Ap
[10:30] <Fecondo> moppy: Perfect, right, I'd better ask there
[10:31] <ljunggren> Ben64, basicaly "acces denied" lol
[10:31] <Ben64> are you on ubuntu?
[10:32] <ljunggren> Ben64, yes
[10:32] <moppy> ljunggren,  i had this discussion about a month ago with another python dev about whether or not you want to localise error messages :-)
[10:32] <moppy> ljunggren, we never agreed!
[10:33] <ljunggren> moppy, i don't really know what you are talking about lol
[10:33] <moppy> ljunggren, is when you write a program and translate all the menus etc into another language (localisation). do you do the error messages? if you do, it good for the user, but you no-longer understand their bug reports
[10:33] <Ben64> ljunggren: pastebin "ls -lad ~/.gnome2; ls -laR ~/.gnome2"
[10:34] <ljunggren> moppy, oh sorry
[10:34] <ljunggren> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/peL3jShv
[10:34] <moppy> if you dont the users cant fix it themselves. if you do, you cant fix it ;-)
[10:34] <ljunggren> it says
[10:35] <Ben64> ljunggren: well theres your problem, stop running stuff with sudo!
[10:35] <ljunggren> Ben64, what am i running with sudo
[10:35] <ljunggren> :(
[10:35] <Ben64> firefox i know for sure, but probably more
[10:35] <Ben64> if you absolutely need to run a graphical app with root privileges, which should be extremely rare, use gksudo
[10:36] <ljunggren> Ben64, i have ran "sudo nautilus" for copying into themes, i have run "sudo steam"  i think also.. but nothing else
[10:36] <Ben64> yep, don't do those
[10:36] <ljunggren> Sorry
[10:36] <Jeroi> hello
[10:36] <ljunggren> i didn't know it was bad for me
[10:36] <ljunggren> will stop now
[10:36] <Jeroi> I have problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/370875/workspeace-view-shows-first-workspaces-out-of-border-at-left
[10:36] <ljunggren> but how can i fix this?
[10:36] <Ben64> "gksudo nautilus" if you need, and you shouldn't need root for steam at all
[10:36] <marcx> hi, why is sudo bad?
[10:36] <Jeroi> Is there solution for this?
[10:36] <ljunggren> Ben64, it was giving me lot of headieachs
[10:37] <ljunggren> Ben64, i will never do it again swear!
[10:37] <ljunggren> Ben64, but is there a way to fix this easily?
[10:37] <Ben64> "sudo chown -R ljunggren /home/ljunggren/.gnome2"
[10:37] <ljunggren> no! i wont sudo again!
[10:37] <ljunggren> lol j/k
[10:38] <Ben64> sudo for command line apps, gksudo for graphical
[10:38] <ljunggren> Ben64, thank you thank you thank you! i was not aware of that
[10:38] <ljunggren> Ben64, gksudo gksudo. ..  will tatoo that one
[10:39] <Ben64> can actually prevent you from logging in under certain circumstances
[10:39] <ljunggren> Ben64, i think i have broken many ubuntu installs by NOT knowing this
[10:39] <ljunggren> because running lots os sudo nautilus etc
[10:39] <Ben64> yeah they should make it more apparent
[10:40] <ljunggren> ive heard of gksudo but never bothered about it ..
[10:40] <ljunggren> i will carry on this message
[10:41] <Okitain> Ben64: I'm not in on what you're talking about, what is it?
[10:42] <Ben64> Okitain: you should never use sudo for graphical applications
[10:42] <mojzesz> Hi all
[10:42] <Okitain> Ben64: I use gksu or kdesudo because X forwarding doesn't work otherwise, but what's the actual danger?
[10:43] <Ben64> Okitain: root can end up owning critical files or directories in your home, preventing things from working as they should
[10:43] <Myrtti> Okitain: files in your home directory that govern how stuff works after you login into your desktop session might get wrong permissions and so loading the session fails
[10:43] <moppy> solution is to run as root obviously :-) *hides*
[10:43] <Okitain> Ben64:  Oh, that? Yup, fixed those sometimes.
[10:44] <moppy> dont do that though!
[10:44] <mojzesz> I want to ask that can i during instalation of linux write commands to set correct place of instalation on hdd
[10:44] <ljunggren> ow i hate swedish bankid...
[10:44] <ljunggren> !
[10:45] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, of course.
[10:45] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, when you see the partition screen, you can choose where to put ubuntu
[10:48] <mojzesz> I have bad sectors at begin of hdd and i want to install linux in good part of disc
[10:50] <cfhowlett> mojzesz, ok.  hey when you disk fails, as it will, and soon, what are you plans?
[10:52] <moppy> install today, use until break, install again later
[10:53] <jiltdil> I have ubuntu 13.10 installed, when trying to connect through modem(BSNL broadband) it is not connecting, while using reliance usb modem it is working. How to resolve this. Thanks
[10:53] <cfhowlett> moppy, seems he took you at your word.  I'd have suggest install to USB
[10:56] <jiltdil> Any help guys
[11:01] <Paulus68_1> !patience|jiltdil
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> jilrun:   lsusb     use the 8 character hex id to find guides (I assume it is USB based)
[11:20] <Guest64270> hi! i'd like to set up a nas device using ubuntu, has anyone tried that?
[11:21] <sam113101> yes
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest64270  i couldnt pick one for you https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+nas
[11:23] <Mike_H1960_> lol
[11:23] <Mike_H1960_> morning everyone
[11:28] <starnix> Hello people
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest64270: install openssh-server   and you now have an SFTP server, simples
[11:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:37] <purezen> Hey guys..! I am a long-time Linux user.. mainly of Ubuntu.. though until now I used to do a fresh install whenever a new version of Ubuntu showed up.. Right now, I am using 13.04.. and want to upgrade it to 13.10.. If I do it from the software center in 13.04.. what all shall I loose/face issues compared to doing a fresh install..? Thanks..!!
[11:38] <purezen> I mean *software updater..!
[11:40] <Squarepy> purezen, f.i. if yyou run out of space
[11:41] <BluesKaj> purezen. in the terminal , sudo do-release-upgrade , then you can monitor the actual upgrade to 13.10 , but using the update manager works just as well, it's your choice
[11:42] <BluesKaj> purezen. you won't lose anything ..I didn't
[11:43] <purezen>  Squarepy, BluesKaj : Hey..! No, space doesn't seem to be an issue..! I have aplenty..;-) Cool.. I will try do-release upgrade.. Only thing I am bothered with is that I have a lot of development stuff installed on my machine.. Ruby on Rails, Android etc.. I just dont want to run into issues with using that later..
[11:44] <Squarepy> then why upgrade :)
[11:44] <Squarepy> fresh install, move over, then burn the ships
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> well, I can no longer boot from USB or CD on this old laptop, so i'm stuck with a Frankenstein-Ubuntu I wish to replace
[11:47] <purezen> Squarepy, Oh.. I hope that the new kernel brings hardware fixes to my machine..;-)
[11:47] <purezen> Squarepy, I'll do that in that case..
[11:48] <jony_easyrider> tips for online free strategy games under Ubuntu (not wine)?
[11:50] <bgardner> MonkeyDust: Got any other laptop hardware around?  You could pull the drive, install Ubuntu in another laptop, then return it to your case after the surgery.
[11:52] <Snowie> hi all. not a buntu question but im struggling to find an answer. im on porteus and i can get sshfs set to amazon ec2 (only as root however) but when mounted if i select the folder i get an error "/path/to/folder/ does not exist" if i unmount it the empty folder opens fine. any suggestions where to troubleshoot next?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> bgardner  tnx, found this... https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/installing-a-kernel-in-ubuntu/
[11:54] <Snowie> the amazon instance is Ubuntu lts, but from everything ive read the host setup only needs to support ssh, it is likely a client error, is that right?
[11:54] <Paulus68_1> MonkeyDust: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59347/is-it-possible-to-install-ubuntu-without-a-cd-or-usb-drive
[11:56] <xavkor> Hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS using wubi alongside windows 8 and would like to dist-upgrade to 13.10 but when i issue the command update-manager -d it says 14.04 is available. how do i upgrade to 13.10?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> xavkor  it's because wubi is not a Reacto l installation, it's not supposed to be upgraded, it's a windows application
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> real*
[11:59] <Snowie> can anyone recommend a good method to mount remote files on amazon ec2 ubuntu 12.04 locally for editing? is there a better option then sshfs?
[11:59] <buu> Snowie: Is there some reason you don't just ssh in and edit locally?
[12:00] <xavkor> =< guess i'm stuck with 12.04... thanks for explaining anyways =)
[12:00] <Snowie> buu: its a web server and i wnat to use highighted editor
[12:01] <Snowie> i have looked at options like c9.io but im not convinced it's as good as it says it is
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: its supported longer than any other current release, no bad thing
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: the -d is for (d)evelopment, the latest ddevel release is Trusty (14.04)
[12:02] <Snowie> buu: is there a method to open the remote file in the local editor?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: you can edit a text file so that the inbetween releases are recognised, then run:  sudo do-release-upgrade     but if you have the LTS, why move?
[12:03] <xavkor> ActionParsnip: yep just that 13.10 has more up to date software...
[12:04] <buu> Snowie: I guess this is why most of us just learn vim =]
[12:04] <eugene_> HI everyone! I have a problem that can be described in few words like that: Nvidea, iMac, stuck.
[12:04] <[twisti]> hi, trying to update today i get an error with the jenkins package, apt-get upgrade says "1 not fully installed or removed.", and when i tell it to proceed "Setting up jenkins (1.538) ... chown: cannot access `/var/run/jenkins': No such file or directory"
[12:04] <Snowie> buu: yeah, something i have avoided for my whole linux career.
[12:05] <Snowie> buu: time to nerd up and get my hands dirty i guess
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> xavkor: but does Precise work for you?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: nvidia, not nvidea
[12:06] <eugene_> indeed
[12:06] <eugene_> =D
[12:06] <SmokingFreak> hi guys
[12:06] <eugene_> but anyway, does anyone know a solution, how to set it up properly for iMac?
[12:06] <buu> Snowie: Once you go vim you'll never go back =]
[12:07] <eugene_> I've tried various suggestions from the web, but non of them helped
[12:08] <buu> eugene_: You have an imac.. running ubuntu.. with a nvidia graphics card?
[12:08] <eugene_> I know it sound strange
[12:08] <buu> Is it an intel imac?
[12:08] <eugene_> but it wasn't my choice
[12:08] <eugene_> yes
[12:08] <eugene_> a brand new one
[12:08] <buu> So there's like, 1400,000,000 pages on the internet about making nvidia cards work with linux
[12:08] <eugene_> I know
[12:09] <buu> and?
[12:09] <eugene_> I've tried some of the suggestions
[12:09] <eugene_> and it didn't help
[12:09] <buu> Then perhaps you should ask more specific questions.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: dos it have a model?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: does it use a switching GPU (Intel and Nvidia GPU)?
[12:10] <eugene_> of course it does have a model, it's Geforce 755M if I remember right, and yes, it uses a switching GPU
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you will need to use Bumblebee to get some sortr of support for your switching GPU mess
[12:11] <eugene_> I have installed official nvidia driver from the repository following instruction I found on the web, including the one you suggest
[12:11] <eugene_> but it didn't help
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: you need bumblebee
[12:12] <eugene_> aha, so I need it even for accelerated graphics?
[12:12] <deveras> hi guys, need a bug tracker, what's the suggestions? I can't find bugzilla in the default repos
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: yes to manage the switching
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> deveras: if you subscribe to a bug, you will get emails when it gets updated
[12:13] <deveras> ActionParsnip: that's not what i'm looking for, i need a client where i can keep track of my own software bugs
[12:13] <deveras> client/app
[12:13] <eugene_> okay, I will try this. I've heart about bumblebee, though I thought it's GPU-specific and I should not need for simple tastks
[12:13] <buu> deveras: trac is pretty simple and popular
[12:13] <eugene_> thank you very much, guys!
[12:14] <buu> bugzilla is kind of over kill
[12:14] <deveras> will have a look, thanks
[12:14] <buu> There's also jira but it's not particularly open
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> eugene_: the kernel will try and use it, so software is needed. Easier just to avoid the whole swapping debardcle altogether
[12:15] <xavkor> ActionParsnip: guess it should work..
[12:15] <deveras> buu: trac is a wiki, jira is commercial :S
[12:16] <deveras> surprised bugzilla is not there by default, are they commercial now? need to check
[12:16] <aFeijo> my crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?
[12:18] <tortal> i need gcc to run nicely so i virutalized xubuntu from windows - only experience in linux was installing LAMP and other putty stuff like python web servers etc.... NOW.. i want gedit, (or some other nice IDE i can work with C and gcc), but installing it from the software manager or whatever gives me some archaic version.. 2.x.. while one windoww it's 5.x atm. i followed instruction at
[12:18] <tortal> http://codelite.org/LiteEditor/Repositories#toc1 and added the saucy universe repo. now im getting some 3.x . So maybe there isn't even a 5.x ready in some repo. but im always perpexed to how apt-get makes it picks from the repo list.
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> tortal  Saucy has gedit 3.8.3
[12:21] <tortal> MonkeyDust: how do i get the latest then? and where can i probe for version numbers in apt-get ? the huge repo-list always perpexles me - i dont even know what saucy means
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> tortal  Sauce is the codename for 13.10 -- a repo is a software source
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> Saucy*
[12:22] <tortal> oh, so saucy is an ubuntu invention
[12:22] <tortal> like kitkat
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> tortal  it's just a name
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> tortal: its the codename for Ubuntu 12.10
[12:23] <tortal> i get it, but what abt apt-get . how does it make out what repo to download from
[12:23] <tortal> when having multiple in its sources list
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: just like WinXP is called Whistler and Vista is called Longhorn
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: the release name is in the file on each active line
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> tortal: read the files, you'll see
[12:23] <philinux> tortal: latest stable version is 3.10  https://projects.gnome.org/gedit/
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> tortal  scroll down to 'rpm.deb' ... http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/32474-a-windows-users-guide-to-linux.html
[12:25] <tortal> lsb_release -a gives me 13.10 but still saucy
[12:25] <tortal> i figues that it's still "saucy" then
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> tortal  yes, Saucy is the more fancy name for 13.10
[12:26] <tortal> someone said 12.10, that's why i reacted
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> must have been a typo
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> tortal  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> tortal: yes, and if you read /etc/apt/sources.list     each line will have 'saucy' on it
[12:27] <aFeijo> my crontab is no longer working!!! how can I investigate it?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> aFeijo: check the cron log
[12:28] <purezen> Hey guys! I am using Ubuntu 13.04 and want to try a newer kernel on my computer.. Can I do it? Will I run into trouble..?
[12:28] <aFeijo> ActionParsnip, in /var/log? let me check
[12:28] <tortal> ActionParsnip: get it - does this mean that it will always default to the codename closest to itself when doing apt-get install ?
[12:28] <tortal> let
[12:28] <manisabri> I'm using 13.04 , recently all windows leave ghosts on wallpaper and I found out if I disable the framebuffer in OpenGL in ccsm the problem is kind of solved , except I dont have any wallpaper anymore , any ideas?
[12:28] <tortal> let's say there's a wheezy there aswell
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> purezen: you can run any kernel you can install but we can only support the kernels for your release from the official ubuntu repos here]
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> tortal: by default, apt-get etc will only pull in packages from 'saucy' sources (in a saucy install)
[12:29] <excognac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358506/
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> tortal: then you will get issues as mixing debian and ubuntu packages causes problems
[12:30] <tortal> ActionParsnip: how so? debian can't be saucy right?
[12:30] <tortal> i mean, non ubuntu debian
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> tortal: no, its a different distro
[12:30] <purezen> ActionParsnip: Hey! Thanks for informing.. Though, can you tell from your experience if it shall cause serious issues..
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> tortal  debian and ubuntu are similar, but not the same - or a different name would not be needed
[12:31] <tortal> yes, i've been running clean debian for servers before but always very high-level on the web server or so
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> tortal: differnet packages have different dependancies, so you will make a mess of your packages
[12:31] <excognac> sry wrong channel
[12:32] <tortal> im aware of the differences of the distros . i just don't know the inner workings of debian. always been a script-kiddie you see
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> tortal: the guys in #debian will tell you all you want to know about debian
[12:33] <tortal> ActionParsnip: thx, i came here mainly for the question about saucy etc. and how apt-get priotizes it
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> tortal  methinks you're on the verge of discovering a new world
[12:33] <tortal> MonkeyDust: :), it's funny.. i know fluent python, php and java et al. but NEVER touched UNIX hard core or even c/c++
[12:34] <tortal> im such a script kiddie
[12:35] <tortal> i really want to read K&R ansi C.. but the web didnt even exist back then.. i wonder if there still is a point... like a cultural one
[12:35] <manisabri> ghosts on wall paper , disable framebuffer in CCSM solves the ghost problem but no wallpaper and slow , any idea?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> manisabri: use a different WM ;)
[12:38] <manisabri> WM ? ; )
[12:38] <cfhowlett> windows manager
[12:38] <manisabri> hmmmm
[12:39] <manisabri> it was ok till last week, I tried to ignore it but its really ugly !
[12:41] <manisabri> and why framebuffer? it seems it fails to clear the framebuffer because the ghosts are still there even after logout/login
[12:42] <purezen> Also, guys.. which kernel shall 13.10 use..? Is 3.12 planned for it..? I know it uses 3.11 atm.. but have seen some links mentioning 3.12 for the same..
[12:43] <bekks> purezen: 3.11 is the kernel used in 13.10
[12:43] <bekks> !mainline | purezen
[12:44] <k1l_> purezen: no, there is no kernel upgrade wanted in the regular (non lts) releases
[12:44] <mole_> lç
[12:44] <purezen> bekks, k1l_ : Thanks guys..!
[12:51] <Untouchab1e> is Ubuntu using systemd yet?
[12:51] <k1l_> Untouchab1e: not as default. upstart is the default init system
[12:52] <Untouchab1e> ah ok
[12:52] <Untouchab1e> will be interesting to see what Debian decides to do, but Ill put my money on systemd
[12:52] <minimec> Untouchab1e: No. It is however using some additional components of systemd like logind.
[12:53] <Untouchab1e> Debian probably wont go for Upstart due to CLA
[12:53] <k1l_> this discussion will suit better into the offtopic channel: #ubuntu-offtopic since this topic is very controvers
[12:53] <Guest34155> Всем привет!
[12:53] <Untouchab1e> gotcha
[12:54] <Untouchab1e> My question was really just what Ubuntu is using, and now I know
[12:54] <Untouchab1e> thanks
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:54] <k1l_> !ru | Guest34155
[12:54] <Guest34155> Можете помочь с AverTV Studio 507?
[12:54] <k1l_> Untouchab1e: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to stick to technical support in here
[12:56] <loa> hello, after some uptime my screensaver stop working...
[12:56] <loa> after reboot all works again
[12:56] <loa> i have 13.10
[12:56] <loa> can somebody confirm such behaviour?
[12:56] <k1l_> loa: no
[12:56] <ActionPa1snip> loa: are there any bugs already reported on Launchpad?
[12:56] <Myrtti> loa: had you used VLC before it stopped working?
[12:57] <ActionPa1snip> loa: which screensaver are you using?
[12:57] <k1l_> loa: see the logs what happend there
[12:57] <loa> ok, then i go learning how to debug screensaver.
[12:57] <loa> thx :)
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> is a screensaver still needed on modern screens?
[12:58] <kakakal> hello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i enabled hibernate and it is saving successfully , but i think that itt is simply restarting instead of hibernate, how to quickly resume session from hibernation
[12:58] <loa> MonkeyDust, blank screen is ok.
[12:58] <loa> MonkeyDust, where is your nick name?
[12:58] <loa> i remember it from somewhere...
[12:58] <loa> nostalgy about something.
[12:58] <loa> where from *
[12:59] <kakakal> i want to improve startup time of ubuntu, because it is taking longer than Windows, it should perform better (Atleast equal to )than windows on same hardware, isn't it?
[12:59] <jpds> kakakal: #ubuntu-boot.
[13:00] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> Kabaka  some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> kakakal   some tips: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: different OSes boot differently
[13:03] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: what these lines are doing, i have preload already installed
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: you can always disable startup services you don't use
[13:03] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: yes, but more  people will move to linux, if it provide better speed and hardware support
[13:03] <Guest271> Hi, on Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD, ''bzr branch lp:ubuntu/saucy/ubiquity'' returns error ''bzr: ERROR: Revision {package-import@ubuntu.com-20120711113620-v800iu2gzawm21xx} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(CallableToParentsProviderAdapter(<bound method CHKInventoryRepository._get_parent_map_no_fallbacks of CHKInventoryRepository('http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/ubiquit
[13:04] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: yes, i have disabled like printer, bluetooth etc
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: more the hardware support, boot time is quite transient as once the OS is booted, it is done, you only boot once
[13:04] <kakakal> and didn't disabled what i do not know
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Guest271  next time, better use pastebin for such pastes, describe the issue in human words in the channel
[13:05] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: thanks, but i want to enable hibernate and it is enabled but not seems to working, to resume quickly, i need hibernation, instead of sleeping
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: why do you 'need' it?
[13:08] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: either startup should be improved or hibernation should work to resume work quickly
[13:10] <BCTv> #ubuntu-кг
[13:10] <cfhowlett> kakakal, if you REALLY want that to happen then (1) choose hardware from the Certified Ubunut List or (2) petition your hardware builder to support linux.  Otherwise, wait patiently until someone hacks it for you.  for free.
[13:10] <BCTv> #ubuntu-ru
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !ru
[13:11] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: it is popping out a error while i pasted a command in terminal that there is no file or directory in/etc/default/prelink, tell me what to do, should a made a file or directory there
[13:13] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: udo: /etc/cron.daily/prelink: command not found
[13:13] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: how to solve that
[13:14] <makara> hi. I'm looking for a simple file encryption tool to store passwords BUT it should just encryption the whole plain text collection of usernames, passwords, URLs, etc. I don't want to create hundreds of fields, and try to organise them, etc. Anything?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !keepass
[13:14] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: so you 'would like' it to work, there is a difference between that and 'need'
[13:14] <makara> BUT
[13:14] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: i made a file  named in the /etc/default/
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  install prelink, first
[13:14] <reisio> makara: you could just put a text file in a 7z archive
[13:14] <makara> i use keepass already and I've had a look at others. They all do separate fields
[13:15] <kakakal> okay
[13:15] <kakakal> sudo apt-get install prelink ??
[13:15] <reisio> kakakal: ask ap t-file
[13:15] <reisio> apt-file, even
[13:15] <makara> reisio, I thought of that, but then every time I want to see the passwords I would be creating a plain text field on disk, which I must remember to delete, etc. Not such a good way to do passwords.
[13:17] <reisio> makara: not necessarily, but it's something you'd have to take into account, for sure
[13:17] <reisio> makara: y'know if you choose your passwords algorithmically, or formulaicly, you only have to remember the formula
[13:18] <Guest61179> Hello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?
[13:20] <sinkensabe> hi, I have an utf-8 error in /etc/environment which means that terminal does not handle åäö. And unfortunately my user password includes an å. The consequence of this is that I cant access sudo and fix the problem.. any ideas how I can get around this?
[13:20] <flyn4x4> is this a problem with just me or do i need to be concerned about it? when running apt get updates this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/6358707/
[13:21] <ActionPa1snip> flyn4x4: medibuntu is no more and should be removed
[13:21] <reisio> sinkensabe: mmm
[13:21] <flyn4x4> ok thanks
[13:21] <reisio> sinkensabe: can you copy & paste it in?
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> flyn4x4  FYI: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:22] <sreedevi> Hello, I am  trying to fix one minor bug in launchpad,  I committed my fix, pushed my branch to launchpad, linked the branch to the bug, Could anyone please tell me whom should I subscribe ?
[13:22] <sinkensabe> reisio, the error?
[13:22] <reisio> sinkensabe: no, the character
[13:23] <sinkensabe> Å
[13:23] <sinkensabe> reisio, Å
[13:23] <sinkensabe> reisio, å
[13:23] <reisio> sinkensabe: can you paste it into your term
[13:24] <sreedevi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1245415- This is the bug link
[13:24] <sinkensabe> reisio, no it return a questionmark
[13:24] <sreedevi> Ubottu: Can you please help me?
[13:24] <reisio> sinkensabe: okay, can you try copying your password in plaintext into a file on the system, then using cat file | sudo -S foo ?
[13:25] <kakakal> MonkeyDust:  Hi, i installed but i have chrome installed,
[13:25] <sreedevi> ubottu: Whom should I subscribe to get the bug fixed?
[13:25] <kakakal> there is no file or folder named  In /etc/chromium-browser/default
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  yes, chrome != chromium-browser, so that tip may not be valid for you
[13:27] <sinkensabe> reisio, no didnt work
[13:27] <kakakal> MonkeyDust: what does prelink do actually, i have preload installed but i haven't seen any improvement in the chrome but see a lot of improvement in libreoffice and gimp
[13:27] <reisio> sinkensabe: well, might be simplest to fix it from a live OS, then
[13:28] <sinkensabe> reisio, hmm ok
[13:28] <sreedevi> ubottu: Thank you
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> kakakal  "Description-en: ELF prelinking utility to speed up dynamic linking The prelink package contains a utility which modifies ELF shared libraries and executables, so that far fewer relocations need to be resolved at runtime and thus programs come up faster."
[13:28] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: could set vm.swappiness lower, how much RAM do you have?
[13:29] <etoile> tchat francais ou pas
[13:30] <cfhowlett> !fr|etoile,
[13:30] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: i set it to 5
[13:30] <kakakal> as mentioned in the file
[13:30] <kakakal> i have 2gb of ram
[13:31] <kakakal> previously it was at 60 and i changed it to 20, mentioned somewhere on the internet
[13:31] <sinkensabe> reisio, in the command you proposed, what should "foo" be, the file ? might have used it incorrectly
[13:32] <reisio> sinkensabe: foo would be the command that comes after sudo
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: how much swap space did you setup?
[13:35] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: it is of 3gb
[13:35] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: thats good
[13:36] <kakakal> but it remains free most of time
[13:36] <kakakal> some KB there in the Swap space are used
[13:36] <sinkensabe> reisio, it worked! many thanks!
[13:36] <sai-shanahansai> how many of you guys use preload and would say it's good and worth it and works?
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: id say the benefits were slim now
[13:39] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: the kernel disk caches things in RAM already
[13:40] <sai-shanahansai> ActionPa1snip, hm interesting. thanks
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: if you run:    free -m     you will see how much RAM is used for disk cache. there is a page called 'linux ate my ram' which explains it
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> !atemyram
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: Windows does similar
[13:41] <ActionPa1snip> sai-shanahansai: unused RAM is wasted RAM :)
[13:42] <geirha> kakakal: Have you modify the swap partition after the initial install?
[13:42] <kakakal> geirha: no
[13:43] <kakakal> geirha: should i set it much higher or lower
[13:43] <sai-shanahansai> ActionPa1snip, nice, makes sense, thanks again, i'll keep it in mind
[13:44] <kakakal> geirha: SWAP remains free almost all the time, after changing VM.SWappiness something to 20 , now 5
[13:45] <ActionPa1snip> kakakal: yes, thats the percentage it will keep apps in RAM :)
[13:45] <gbear> hi im having a issue with ubuntu 12.10 and eggdrop
[13:46] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: we should keep it to high, only then apps will work fast
[13:46] <streulma> Android people in the house ?
[13:46] <sreedevi> I have committed a fix in launchpad, Could anyone please verify it?
[13:46] <sreedevi> This is bug link:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/secure-delete/+bug/1245415
[13:47] <kakakal> ActionPa1snip: when ram is available then we should keep them in the RAM for a fast system
[13:48] <wylde> sreedevi: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[13:48] <kakakal> let me restart and try, how much performance boost i got, after installing prelink and as suggested by MonkeyDust
[13:52] <ActionPa1snip> kaktuskuchen: that is default
[13:52] <kaktuskuchen> ActionPa1snip, huh?
[13:53] <sreedevi> wylde:Thank you so much :)
[13:55] <gbear> anyone can help with installing TCL on ubuntu server? when i go to set up eggdrop its telling me there isnt any  C compiler found
[13:55] <ikonia> gbear: then you need a compiler, not tcl
[13:56] <gbear> ok so what do I need to do to install it
[13:56] <gbear> when i installed the image it didnt ask me what extra packages I wanted to install
[13:56] <gbear> also its installed in a virtual machine
[13:57] <TonnyNerd> I am trying to enable ssl on apache2, but 'a2enmod ssl' gives me 'ERROR: Module ssl does not exist!' on a fresh ubuntu 12.04 install. The ssl.{conf,load} files are nowhere to be found. Any ideas what is happening?
[13:57] <TonnyNerd> And dpkg -L apache2.2-common lists /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf as one of it's files. But it's not there
[13:58] <TonnyNerd> I tried reinstalling it. Didn't helped, the file is still missing
[13:58] <TonnyNerd> (also, maybe it's worth noticing it's a LXC container, although I don't think it makes difference)
[13:58] <geirha> gbear: apt-get build-dep eggdrop   will install the packages necessary for building the eggdrop package from the repository
[13:59] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: have you actually got the ssl module installed ?
[13:59] <gbear> ok
[13:59] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, What package would that be?
[14:00] <TonnyNerd> It says here (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/apache2.2-common/filelist) the file should come with the apache2.2-common package, which I already installed
[14:00] <zero_coder> hello , my disk usage analyzer is showing 100% disk usage even though nothing much is running. and this is pretty much freezing my computer at times
[14:00] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: no idea without looking, but add expect mod-ssl, or apache-ssl or something like that
[14:00] <zee> how do I install a locale, thats not on the server?
[14:00] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: which file exactly
[14:01] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, there's no such package, mod-ssl. apt-cache search returns nothing on this
[14:01] <zee> i need fo_FO
[14:01] <TonnyNerd> ikonia,  /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf and ssl.load
[14:01] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: hang on....
[14:01] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: can you show me the output of uname -a
[14:02] <gbear> geirha: it worked, thanks. :)
[14:02] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, sure: Linux owncloud-dev 3.8.0-32-generic #47~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 16:19:35 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:02] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, as I said, it's a LXC container
[14:02] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: that's part of the reason I'm asking I've seen some containers have certain file systems hardcoded with package contents,
[14:03] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, but the base container I am using doesn't even comes with apache
[14:03] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: ok, so you've manually installed it and the file is missing, correct
[14:03] <starnix> hello people.
[14:03] <TonnyNerd> I install it with puppet. Vanilla package, as far as know
[14:04] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: so check the source repo where that package is coming from
[14:04] <starnix> I need little help here, I cannot upgrade ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10, error: No protocol specified..... some blah blah, gtk:critial error, some..
[14:05] <ikonia> starnix: blah blah doesn't help
[14:05] <ikonia> starnix: factual error message does
[14:05] <starnix> thanks, ikonia, pasting it.
[14:05] <ikonia> starnix: use a pastebin
[14:06] <starnix> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/W82Tf8fi
[14:07] <ikonia> starnix: let me guess, you are running this as root ?
[14:08] <starnix> ikonia, when I click upgrade button, It is asking me password?
[14:08] <TonnyNerd> ikonia, according to apt-cache policy apache2.2-common, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main amd64 Packages
[14:08] <ikonia> starnix: ok, lets step back in time a little
[14:08] <ikonia> starnix: what is the firt thing you do to get the upgrade button on screen
[14:08] <ikonia> TonnyNerd: looks pretty solid
[14:09] <hm76> hi need help with driver install mint 15 G500 lenovo....
[14:09] <ikonia> hm76: try the mint support channel on sportnet irc network
[14:09] <ikonia> !mint | hm76
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> hm76  mint has its own support channel
[14:09] <starnix> ikonia, I am following this --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[14:09] <hm76> ok men
[14:09] <ikonia> starnix: ok, so tell me the first thing YOU do
[14:10] <starnix> I opened a terminal, I typed update-manager -d
[14:10] <ikonia> starnix: no sudo ?
[14:10] <starnix> no.
[14:10] <ikonia> starnix: what is the username you are doing this as ?
[14:11] <starnix> there is only one user
[14:11] <ikonia> starnix: which is....
[14:11] <starnix> which i had created at the time of installation @ ikonia
[14:11] <OerHeks> oh old ubuntu upgrade  page > update-manager -d  = upgrade todevelopment release
[14:11] <ikonia> OerHeks: yes, he's trying to go to saucy
[14:12] <aethelrick> bbitmq
[14:12] <ikonia> starnix: ahhh I see what you mean
[14:12] <ikonia> starnix: ok, so saucy is now released,
[14:12] <ikonia> starnix: so -d = development release, not 13.10 - but 14.04
[14:13] <ikonia> OerHeks: good spot
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  +1
[14:13] <starnix> Just tried with sudo update-manager
[14:13] <starnix> got a dialog for upgrade, and same error @ ikonia 0erHerks
[14:14] <ikonia> starnix: the first thing that is worrying me is the complaint that it can't open an X display
[14:14] <ikonia> starnix: can you open X11 apps from the terminal
[14:14] <starnix> well, guys, I am using gnome 3
[14:14] <gbear> ok got another one since eggdrop successfully compiled. im running ubuntu server ina VM on vmware player. ive tried to enable the share folder but cant get it to be seen in the ubuntu VM because I need to transfer files to the eggdrop folder from the host. how do I mount the share folder
[14:14] <ikonia> starnix: gnome3 is still an X11 app
[14:14] <starnix> displaymanager is kdm iguess.
[14:14] <ikonia> starnix: so you've got kde display manager, but running gnome 3 ???
[14:15] <ikonia> starnix: that is a very non-standard configuration
[14:15] <starnix> Yeah.
[14:15] <ikonia> starnix: why would you do that ?
[14:16] <starnix> ikonia, I installed KDE desktop, at that time I used kdm and again, I didn't like KDM so, I simply used gnome session at the time of login.
[14:16] <ikonia> starnix: lets go back to the initial question, can you open X11 applications from the terminal
[14:16] <starnix> just tried, gedit open fine
[14:17] <ikonia> starnix: ok, so your user is ok at connecting to the running X11 server
[14:17] <ikonia> starnix: so what happens if you launch update-manager now
[14:18] <starnix> ikonia, it checks for updates
[14:18] <ikonia> starnix: so it launches and behaves ok
[14:18] <ikonia> starnix: I assume it tells you, you are up to date ?
[14:19] <starnix> yeah, it tell, however, Ubuntu 13.10 is now available (you have 13.04) and it has three button one "settings" two "Upgrade.." and third one ""ok"
[14:19] <ikonia> starnix: you hit "upgrade" I assume ?
[14:19] <starnix> obviously.
[14:19] <ikonia> and then it falls back to that error ?
[14:20] <starnix> it asks password.
[14:20] <ikonia> starnix: ok, you enter that, and then it falls back to that error
[14:20] <starnix> then at terminal it falls back to all these error.
[14:21] <ikonia> starnix: and it still complains "could not open X display"
[14:21] <starnix> ikonia, yep.
[14:21] <ikonia> starnix: that is odd and a bit frustrating,
[14:21] <starnix> lol
[14:21] <ikonia> starnix: out of interest, can you do "gksudo do-release-upgrade"
[14:22] <ikonia> (I'll bet gksudo is not found)
[14:27] <awerzoiounk> can I change my audio driver in ubuntu 10.4 lxde?
[14:27] <starnix> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/LMG5yTDB
[14:27] <Lihis_> Hi everyone! Does anyone else have problem with Empathy IRC-plugin in Ubuntu 13.10? I mean eg. you have registered a username in freenode but when you add it's credentials to Online accounts you got error message saying nickname is already in use?
[14:27] <auronandace> awerzoiounk: 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop
[14:27] <starnix> ikonia, after entering nothing happens...
[14:28] <ikonia> starnix: ok, so the first thing to deal with is the 3rd party repos - the instructions say to get rid of them AND get rid of any software they have installed
[14:29] <starnix> ikonia, what should I do? I just hit enter button?
[14:29] <ikonia> starnix: no, re-read what I just said
[14:30] <starnix> instruction tells that, third party tools are disabled for upgrade I guess?
[14:30] <starnix> ^iko
[14:30] <starnix> ^ ikonia
[14:30] <ikonia> starnix: no, re-read what I said
[14:30] <ikonia> not what's on the screen
[14:31] <starnix> ikonia, nothing? except my browser, terminal and this IRC client.
[14:31] <ikonia> starnix: I said you should remove all 3rd party repos AND any software they have installed
[14:32] <auronandace> ikonia: i admire your patience
[14:32] <starnix> lol, I have bitcoin apps and wallets :| @ ikonia
[14:32] <ikonia> starnix: not sure what that has to do with anything
[14:32] <fztor> starnix: back it up
[14:33] <fztor> lol or make a backup rather, poor choice of words there
[14:34] <starnix> Thanks, ikonia, I can't risk it atleast not before my bit trade, I will use a spare partition and do a clean install. Thanks..
[14:35] <ikonia> ok
[14:35] <siberiannerd> there is an app, which can read and store it's .config only under current user's home directory, i need it to run with another user which doesn't have it's own home dir, but keep it's ability to read/write own configuration file
[14:35] <siberiannerd> is that even possible?
[14:37] <ikonia> siberiannerd: a user will have it's own home directory assigned, it may not be useable but it will have one
[14:37] <OerHeks> siberiannerd, other user without a /home/ ?? how did you managed that?
[14:37] <ikonia> siberiannerd: where is it assigned
[14:37] <siberiannerd> nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/false
[14:37] <fztor> siberiannerd: first see if the app allows setting a custom config file destination
[14:37] <ikonia> siberiannerd: that use is not an interactive user
[14:37] <siberiannerd> fztor, it doesn't allow setting custom config destination
[14:38] <siberiannerd> ikonia, qbittorrent-nox
[14:38] <fztor> siberiannerd: give it a home directory
[14:38] <siberiannerd> that doesn't fit my end-goal
[14:38] <ikonia> siberiannerd: firstly you're trying to do this with a non-interactive user, and the home directory is /noneistent
[14:39] <siberiannerd> ikonia, i still need a user to store ~/.config right? i need to run it from interactive user but with other user's permissions
[14:39] <ikonia> siberiannerd: it's not going to work like that
[14:39] <fztor> siberiannerd: sometimes the application developers use $HOME or some other part, or fallback to the binary directory for storing files
[14:39] <siberiannerd> ikonia, so it's not possible, right?
[14:39] <siberiannerd> fztor, man qbittorrent-nox
[14:39] <fztor> siberiannerd: if it refuses to use something else than the users home dir, you have to create one
[14:39] <siberiannerd> got it
[14:39] <ikonia> siberiannerd: it is possible with some apps, but seeing as the path to the path is hardcoded and there are only 3 flags for the command -help -version -webui-port no
[14:40] <siberiannerd> so it's not possible
[14:40] <siberiannerd> ikonia, well at least maybe i could read about those shady possibilities you're talking about? any hints?
[14:41] <ikonia> siberiannerd: what possibilities, I've just told you there are only 3 options for your application, and the config path is hardcoded
[14:41] <fztor> siberiannerd: what is that end-goal you mentioned?
[14:41] <siberiannerd> oh, sorry, but many thanks
[14:42] <siberiannerd> fztor, to run the app with nobody's permissions
[14:42] <Toasty27> I'm having some trouble installing the QXL driver in an Ubuntu VM (12.04.3). I grabbed the xserver-xorg-video-qxl package for Raring since 12.04.3 installs xserver-xorg-core-lts-raring, so the ABI version matches, but dpkg complains that the version of xserver-xorg-core is not >= 2:1.12.99.901. Even though core-lts-raring provides 2:1.13.3
[14:43] <Toasty27> Has anyone else run into a problem like this?
[14:43] <ikonia> siberiannerd: a work around would be to create a non-pirvileged user, with a locked password so it can't be used, set a valid home directory, lock the permissions on it, and then use "sudo" to run as that user,
[14:43] <siberiannerd> ikonia, yeah, i'm on the way currently
[14:44] <siberiannerd> i just thought there could be something like suid bit trick or :/
[14:45] <ikonia> siberiannerd: wrong approach,
[14:45] <siberiannerd> got it
[14:45] <siberiannerd> many thanks!
[14:46] <Toasty27> Anyone else having trouble installing the QXL video driver?
[14:46] <sls> http://www.elections.ny.gov/NYSBOE/Elections/2013/Proposals/ProposalFourFinal.pdf
[14:47] <DJones> sls: I think you've got the wrong channel for that
[14:50] <acolite> Hey folks. I'm trying to use Unity Tweak Tool to make the Unity launcher only appear on the primary desktop, but every time I make the change and close it, nothing is different -- it still appears on all desktop screens, causing the mouse to drag horribly between screens.
[14:51] <acolite> When I open Unity Tweak Tool again, it is still in the previous configuration, not even having changed there.
[14:52] <acolite> What can I do to ensure the launcher only appears on the primary desktop?
[14:56] <r6xual> hello all. would anyone have some time to help me with a radeon HD5450 driver install issue? I ran through this process https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but catn seem to get my second card (same model) to work
[14:56] <r6xual> PM is fine
[14:57] <thomson112> is Linux Live Usb Creator good for creating a bootable flash drive for ubuntu 13.10?
[15:02] <nicholas_> gcc photomanager.c -o photo `pkg-config --cflags --libs clutter-1.0`. how do i add gdk-pixbuf to the dependencies?
[15:03] <goldstar> hey guys, how do I enable special fx for saucy /
[15:03] <goldstar> ?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> goldstar  in KDE: alt-shift F12
[15:04] <goldstar> MonkeyDust, doesnt do anything
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> goldstar  is it KDE, or Unity, or soemthing else?
[15:05] <r6xual> hey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working
[15:05] <r6xual> i only see display:0 and screen 0 and 1
[15:06] <goldstar> MonkeyDust, unity
[15:08] <zerocircle> is SDL2 comes in ubuntu
[15:09] <auronandace> !find sdl2 | zerocircle
[15:09] <zerocircle> means it comes :)
[15:09] <zerocircle> auronandace,
[15:14] <r6xual> hey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working
[15:14] <r6xual> i only see display:0 and screen 0 and 1
[15:17] <joossee> there is a list somewhere on ubuntu.com of JUST wireless adapters that work with the installers? does anyone know thelink?
[15:18] <Xat`> I'm using thousands of ldap user entries
[15:18] <extremelyanonrym> hi
[15:19] <extremelyanonrym> any buddy is there
[15:19] <Xat`> I have thousands of ldap user entries and I'm able to get them with "getent passwd" but this is very slow
[15:19] <wylde> joossee: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/category/WIRELESS/ may be of interest.
[15:19] <Xat`> so when i'm trying to authenticate with ldap user, I get a timeout
[15:20] <tacotruck123> Hello, how can I mount a lvm2 file system on ubuntu. Do I need to install some packages first?
[15:20] <nopcall> i just remove librhythmbo-core7 ,  will it harmful for my system?
[15:20] <extremelyanonrym> hey can anyone help me out
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> extremelyanonrym  start with a question
[15:21] <extremelyanonrym> thank bro
[15:21] <extremelyanonrym> how to set monitor mode
[15:22] <extremelyanonrym> in backtrack
[15:22] <bazhang> !wifi | extremelyanonrym have a read first
[15:22] <joossee> wylde, ty. the one i am thinking of is actually a shortlist with descriptions and contains a set of yes/nos forwether they work in the installer, in the OS, and the tweaking required...
[15:22] <Sovngarde> on a NIC?
[15:22] <bazhang> extremelyanonrym, thats not supported here, try #backtrack-linux
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> extremelyanonrym  backtrack is not supported here
[15:23] <extremelyanonrym> means
[15:23] <bazhang> extremelyanonrym, /join #backtrack-linux   this is ubuntu support only , not backtrack
[15:23] <extremelyanonrym> k got it thanks bro
[15:24] <joossee> wylde, found it ty\
[15:24] <joossee> 12.04 is natty narwal right?
[15:24] <joossee> shit precise penguin
[15:24] <joossee> my bad
[15:25] <auronandace> !12.04 | joossee
[15:25] <joossee> !pangolin | joossee
[15:25] <r6xual> hey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working
[15:25] <r6xual> i only see display:0 and screen 0 and 1
[15:27] <joossee> wylde; when I look at the HW compatibilitylists for a manufacvturer, say Dlink, there are three columns: supports network install, supported in installed system, works out of the box. Which of these catagories might best indicate if the adapter works during the ubuntu installer?
[15:28] <joossee> wylde; im guess the 1st and third columns?
[15:30] <wylde> joossee: I think that would be a fair assumption.
[15:30] <Helsinkiii> hi guys
[15:31] <Helsinkiii> I opened my Thunderbird this morning to find all my IMAP inbox empty
[15:31] <Helsinkiii> at the same time, I went over my disk quota ... did that cause my emails to disappear?
[15:32] <wagonboi> I keep getting locked out from my ubuntu box by Fail2ban and denyhosts, but I can't whitelist my IP because it changes about every day. What free DNS service can i set up on my windows machine so that I can set it's address in the whitelist and not be blocked anymore?
[15:32] <joossee> wylde; many places it says I may need to flash the firmware for the USB but im not sure i understand theprocess? can i flash the firmware of the USB adapter on any OS? oris this a ubuntu specific thing?
[15:32] <wagonboi> DynDNS use to offer a free service, but they discontinued it and now I don't know what is available
[15:33] <wylde> joossee: I've personally never had to do that. I have no experience with it.
[15:34] <acolite> Hey folks. I'm trying to use Unity Tweak Tool to make the Unity launcher only appear on the primary desktop, but every time I make the change and close it, nothing is different -- it still appears on all desktop screens, causing the mouse to drag horribly between screens.
[15:34] <acolite> When I open Unity Tweak Tool again, it is still in the previous configuration, not even having changed there.
[15:34] <acolite> What can I do to ensure the launcher only appears on the primary desktop?
[15:36] <Helsinkiii> anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether or not my going over my webserver quota made all my IMAP emails vanish?
[15:37] <joossee> Helsinkiii, id wager you misconfigured your mail client
[15:37] <Helsinkiii> joossee, last night they were there, this morning i got a disk quota overage email to my secondary email and all my IMAP emails were gone
[15:38] <joossee> Helsinkiii, ok ... what makes this a ubuntu problem exactly? your using a hosted server yes?
[15:39] <Helsinkiii> joossee, yes. which runs Ubuntu. wasn't sure where to ask, but if it's not here I'll gladly go away
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> acolite: did you try logging off and on?
[15:39] <joossee> Helsinkiii, well it just seems that your providerwouldbe abletoanswer this question a lotmore accurately than us speculating...?
[15:40] <Helsinkiii> joossee, yeah, they're AWOL as they usually are and I'm dying to get a phone number of someone I need to call in about an hour
[15:40] <joossee> Helsinkiii, ok cuz a disk quote problem generally the mail server will bounce the message with a quote error....?
[15:40] <joossee> quota error
[15:40] <joossee> not just delete allyourmail
[15:40] <acolite> ActionParsnip, I haven't tried that -- you mean while the external display is still connected?
[15:41] <acolite> I will update you when I do.
[15:41] <thomson112> do i need a swap partition if i have 4gb ram?
[15:41] <joossee> Helsinkiii, might bepossible an attacker exploited a flaw in your IMAP to flood your server...do you have a lotofenemies?
[15:41] <joossee> thomi_, yes
[15:41] <joossee> thomson112, yes
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> acolite: after you make the change to the settings
[15:41] <thomson112> ok
[15:41] <auronandace> thomson112: if you want to hibernate then yes
[15:41] <Helsinkiii> joossee, haha no but apparently my service provider has been hit with a lot of crap lately
[15:41] <thomson112> same rule apply with 2x the amount of ram?
[15:42] <joossee> Helsinkiii, ya cuz your email wont disappear unless you have set the client to do so,,,?
[15:42] <thomson112> so an 8gb swap?
[15:42] <joossee> thomson112, no 4gb
[15:42] <auronandace> thomson112: no, just needs to be bigger than ram (2x would be a waste)
[15:42] <thomson112> ok
[15:42] <joossee> hey on that note... myserver has 32 GB of ram.. do I need a swapfile?
[15:43] <acolite> ActionParsnip, right after I make the change to settings, I open up unity tweak and it shows nothing changed, so I'm not sure how logging out will help... but I will try it.
[15:45] <Helsinkiii> joossee, thanks for the advice
[15:46] <Space_Nerd> gente eu to com um problema eu uso kali linux no meu notebook e quando eu coloco um mouse usb ele funciona por pouco ai ele para
[15:47] <Space_Nerd> ai tenho que tirar e colocalo novamente..
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> !it
[15:47] <x_root> tente ubuntu-br
[15:47] <auronandace> Space_Nerd: kali is not supported here
[15:47] <x_root> he speaks portuguese xD
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> oops, it's portugese
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> x_root  yeah, saw it too late
[15:47] <joossee> Helsinkiii, np. hope you find all your mail!
[15:47] <Helsinkiii> joossee, i hope one day my mail finds me
[15:47] <x_root> MonkeyDust, no problem it happens
[15:48] <acolite> ActionParsnip, it didn't work.
[15:48] <acolite> I open Unity Tweak, change it to show launcher only on primary desktop, log out, back in and it's exactly the same.
[15:48] <acolite> Still shows on every desktop.
[15:48] <acolite> I open it, change, close, open it again and it still shows I didn't change it.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> acolite  screen/display or virtual desktop?
[15:50] <acolite> MonkeyDust, physical displays. I'm trying to have the launcher only show on the primary (so my mouse doesn't stick horribly trying to go between them)
[15:50] <Guest38073> ciao!
[15:50] <acolite> MonkeyDust, but after changing it in Unity Tweak, I can see nothing different, and re-opening Unity Tweak reveals the same setting as before I tried to change it.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> acolite: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:51] <Guest38073> list
[15:51] <acolite> ActionParsnip, "Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l"
[15:51] <acolite> This is on a freshly installed Ubuntu 13.10 installation. I may be downgrading to 13.04 again because 13.10 does not seem to support the 3-monitor setup I had in 13.04, but that's a separate issue.
[15:51] <acolite> This is more pertinent :)
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> acolite: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107583/how-can-i-remove-duplicate-second-unity-launcher-on-a-dual-screen-setup
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> acolite: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131868/how-do-i-remove-the-launcher-from-my-second-monitor-display
[15:53] <acolite> ActionParsnip, That is perfect, thank you... I must have simply forgotten that this is where this was set, not in Tweak Tool.
[15:53] <acolite> ActionParsnip, *hugs* :P
[15:53] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i tried adding my CDROM as a repo but now I get errors in apt-get saying redundant sources...?
[15:54] <acolite> ActionParsnip, MonkeyDust do either of you think you might be able to help with this issue that I've documented on the forums? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185784
[15:54] <xangua> hi everyone, after I upgraded ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stop being recognized; any suggestion on this issue¿
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> acolite  no, can't help sorry
[15:57] <bgamari> How does pulseaudio get started in a modern Ubuntu environment?
[15:57] <thnee> how the heck do you turn off that annoying drum sound playing on alert windows??
[15:57] <jhutchins> joossee: That's because you have more than one source with the same repo on it.
[15:57] <bgamari> The process appears to be owned by me yet has init as its parent
[15:58] <gordonjcp> thnee: up to the volume icon, bring up sound preferences, somewhere in there you'll find a thing to mute alert sounds
[15:58] <jhutchins> joossee: That's what "redundant" means.
[15:58] <joossee> jhutchins, so i needto comment out the similar sources?
[15:58] <bgamari> I can kill it and it is restarted by someone
[15:58] <jhutchins> joossee: I don't think apt has the ability to weight them, so yes.
[15:59] <thnee> gordonjcp: no, alert sounds in sound preferences is not it
[15:59] <gordonjcp> thnee: yes, it is
[15:59] <gordonjcp> bgamari: what exactly are you trying to do?
[15:59] <thnee> gordonjcp: Is it you or me who is using my computer?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> joossee: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo apt-get update
[15:59] <gordonjcp> thnee: well, you're doing something odd then
[15:59] <bgamari> gordonjcp, I'm trying to determine why pulseaudio isn't present on my session debus
[15:59] <bgamari> dbus*
[16:00] <bgamari> I'm loading the module-dbus-protocol module in /etc/pulse/default.pa
[16:00] <gordonjcp> thnee: is this in Ubuntu?
[16:00] <thnee> gordonjcp: obviously
[16:00] <gordonjcp> thnee: I'm looking at it right now
[16:01] <gordonjcp> thnee: turning off the checkbox stops alert sounds
[16:01] <gordonjcp> thnee: is it possibly a specific app that is making funny noises?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> acolite: are there any bugs reported? Have you tried Lubuntu 13.10 as Gnome based Ubuntu 13.10 ships with XMir instead of Xorg (if memory serves) and may be causing the issue
[16:01] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: i thought xmir was postponed
[16:02] <thnee> gordonjcp: firefox resubmit form alert question windows
[16:02] <thnee> gordonjcp: goes badumdum
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: cant fully remember
[16:02] <popey> indeed, xmir didnt ship by default in 13.10
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ahh I see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> thanks
[16:02] <acolite> ActionParsnip, bugs reported as in something generated on my system, or something in launchpad?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> acolite: tried a differnet DE/WM anyways?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> acolite: like xfce4 ?
[16:02] <acolite> ActionParsnip, I would rather not try a different DE, but I've been searching the issue to see if anyone else is suffering it.
[16:03] <gordonjcp> thnee: weird, it's not doing it here
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> acolite: then you will know if its the DE causing the issue
[16:03] <gordonjcp> thnee: you could always find and delete the sample... ;-)
[16:03] <thnee> gordonjcp: also, unity-tweak-tool wont start, saying schema com.canonical.indicator.sound not installed
[16:04] <giuseppe_> ciao
[16:04] <giuseppe_> !list
[16:04] <bgamari> gordonjcp, I take it you don't know what is responsible for starting PulseAudio?
[16:04] <r6xual> hey all. does anyone have some time to help me with dual ATI videocards? Cant seem to get the second one working
[16:04] <r6xual> i only see display:0 and screen 0 and 1
[16:04] <gordonjcp> bgamari: it's something I should look into
[16:04] <thnee> gordonjcp: I tried googling that, got nothing
[16:05] <gordonjcp> bgamari: I know it respawns constantly because it's a useless crashy piece of weirdness and Lennart couldn't code his way out of a paper bag
[16:05] <xangua> how can I enable mir on ubuntu 13.10¿ is it smooth¿
[16:05] <gordonjcp> bgamari: so whatever starts it, assumes that if the pulseaudio daemon isn't there it has crashed and must be restarted
[16:05] <gordonjcp> which is just wack
[16:07] <bgamari> gordonjcp, Unfortunately it seems Ubuntu is increasingly reliant on such hacks
[16:07] <bgamari> and worse, not documenting them
[16:07] <joossee> ActionParsnip, cant pastebin from non connected machine :(
[16:07] <tacotruck123> I'm using a live cd to copy files from external hard drive to drobo...where is network smb drive mounted to when you connect to it?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> xangua  better ask in #ubuntu-mir, i guess
[16:08] <tacotruck123> running sudo nautilus but dont see any network drive mounted in /media
[16:08] <joossee> journal73newspaper35shinmoon
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> tacotruck123  type   mount     to know where everything is mounted
[16:10] <tacotruck123> Okay. Do network drives get mounted?
[16:11] <ikonia> tacotruck123: why are you using "sudo" to launch nautlius
[16:11] <tacotruck123> because when i try to copy to drobo it says i dont have read access to copy the file.
[16:12] <ikonia> tacotruck123: that's a different issue
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> what's drobo?
[16:12] <grepory> I'm trying to install packages from our local deb repo during automated installation, but when I use pkgsel in pre-seed and try to include packages from our local repository, it can't find the packages. Does apt-setup only work for installing packages after installation has completed?
[16:12] <tacotruck123> ah just a network smb mount.
[16:12] <ikonia> tacotruck123: if you're mounting things with user-specific file systems like "fuse" then you're going to not see them as another user (eg: root when you run sudo)
[16:13] <tacotruck123> yep, that is exact issue ikonia.
[16:13] <tacotruck123> any work around?
[16:13] <ikonia> tacotruck123: ok, so now you understand any how to deal with it
[16:13] <ikonia> tacotruck123: "don't use "sudo" "
[16:14] <tacotruck123> Let me try. didn't think it would allow me access to read without.
[16:14] <ikonia> tacotruck123: you have two seperate issues, deal with them one at a time
[16:15] <joossee> ok off tobuy 100' cat5 in the hopes that will solvemy problem
[16:15] <tacotruck123> The folder libvirt cannot be handled because you don't have permissions to read it.
[16:16] <ikonia> tacotruck123: that is a different situation
[16:16] <ikonia> tacotruck123: deal with one at a time
[16:16] <kakakal> hello everyone, is there any application for facebook video calling,
[16:17] <kakakal> i am using ubuntu 12.04 lts
[16:17] <padrino> Hi
[16:17] <vale> ciao
[16:17] <xangua> kakakal: no
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> kakakal: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6dbYaFSBxY
[16:17] <kakakal> there should be some plugin in pidgin messenger,
[16:17] <vale> !list
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> kakakal: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52054/is-it-yet-possible-to-use-facebook-video-chat-without-a-vm
[16:17] <joechen> join #g0v.tw
[16:17] <padrino> I tried to just the general #linux channel but it wouldn't allow me to type so I have a question I'm going to post here. I'm thinking of buying the Android mini PC or the Pi, what'd be the best distro to run on it considering Ubuntu is a little slow because of the processor?
[16:18] <CatKiller> padrino: Ubuntu
[16:18] <ikonia> padrino: not really appropriate for this channel, try registering on Freenode, and then asking in ##linux
[16:18] <auronandace> padrino: you need a registered nick to talk on ##linux
[16:18] <ikonia> CatKiller: that's just silly advice, as ubuntu doesn't run on the pi
[16:18] <padrino> alright, thanks guys. I'll register now
[16:19] <xangua> kakakal: you can use any xmpp client to basic chat https://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php
[16:19] <CatKiller> ikonia: Sorry I was basing this on my experience with a board that uses practically the same SoC
[16:19] <CatKiller> which runs fine on Ubuntu
[16:19] <bmcfee> i'm still having trouble with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1220684 after upgrading to 13.10. anyone got a lead on a fix?
[16:19] <ikonia> CatKiller: sadly the pi fails
[16:19] <pune> hi, i'm using kubuntu 13.10 x64.  up until today, multiarch was working and i was able to run 32bit programs on the 64bit OS.  then the updater came along and crapped on something and broke the multiarch support.
[16:19] <CatKiller> ikonia: That's a surprise for me, the Marvel boards work fine
[16:20] <pune> dose anybody happen to know what i should install to fix multiarch support?
[16:20] <tacotruck123> ikonia: so how do I mount fuse as root?
[16:20] <CatKiller> ikonia: A quick google search confirms what you're saying. I'd say they should probably dedicate some ressources to make it work there, there's some potential
[16:20] <kakakal> xangua: i don't have any problem with chat, i am looking for video calling other than skype and google hangout
[16:20] <ikonia> tacotruck123: the root account is locked, so it's not really the intended approach
[16:21] <tacotruck123> So how else do I get read access to copy files over from external drive to network drive?
[16:21] <auronandace> kakakal: jitsi?
[16:22] <kakakal> auronandace: what is it? jitsi
[16:22] <auronandace> kakakal: an alternative to skype
[16:23] <ikonia> tacotruck123: what file system is on the external drive ?
[16:23] <kakakal> auronandace: no, never tried, hearing first time from you, how good it is, what about call quality on slow internet connections
[16:24] <auronandace> kakakal: i've never used it, i'm just aware of it (it uses java if thats an issue for you)
[16:25] <kakakal> no, i am using skype for linux, it is working okay, but UI is not that good as compared with windows
[16:25] <tacotruck123> ikonia: according to this ubuntu live cd it is cifs
[16:25] <tacotruck123> but to mount it I just used the connect to sever and chose smb share and typed username and password.
[16:26] <ikonia> tacotruck123: nah, the external drive would not be mounted on cifs - cifs is network file systems
[16:26] <ikonia> tacotruck123: that's not an extenral drive, that's a network share
[16:26] <ZeThomas> hey, i'm trying to get bumblebee and the nvidia drivers running on my laptop, but at the suggestion to run nvidia-xconfig, this file seems nowhere to be found? I tried with installing (sequentially) nvidia-current, nvidia-current-upgrade, and nvidia-319-updates
[16:26] <tacotruck123> The external drive is vlm2
[16:27] <tacotruck123> Think it may come from a redhat box..not sure.
[16:28] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: lvm2 is not a filesystem
[16:28] <ikonia> tacotruck123: what you are saying doesn't make sense, it's either an extenral drive you plug into your computer, or it's on a network
[16:28] <ikonia> tacotruck123: which is it
[16:28] <manisabri> windows leave shadow on wallpaper , CCSM-> OpenGL -> Dispable FrameBuffer and problem solved but desktop much slower and no wallpaper , any idea whats going on? ubuntu 13.04 64bit AMD APU HP laptop
[16:28] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Paste the output of "mount" in bpaste
[16:29] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: And make sure both the external drive is plugged in (and hasn't been unmounted or "ejected" from the GUI)
[16:29] <CatKiller> as well as the network drive
[16:30] <tacotruck123> Sorry, the external drive is ext3. The network drive is cifs. I neet to copy from external to mounted network drive using this ubuntu live cd.
[16:30] <CatKiller> CatKiller> tacotruck123: Paste the output of "mount" in bpaste
[16:30] <CatKiller> please
[16:30] <ikonia> tacotruck123: and where is the permissions problem, the external drive, or the network drive
[16:31] <kakakal1> jitsi seems fine and i will try it someday, i have added it todo list
[16:32] <kakakal1> auronandace:skype is well known standard in the world hehehe
[16:36] <tacotruck123> Catkiller: http://pastebin.com/RvxVLZP0 ikonia: looks like permissions problem is on external drive as I was able to read/write to network share. I'm able to copy from external drive but I think I need to do it from root since this is a live cd.
[16:36] <lonewulf85> Home partition did not mount with ubuntu how to make it mount each time?
[16:36] <tacotruck123> I can select copy and when I try to paste it says it can't read even though it lists the directory fine.
[16:37] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Is your external hd "sdd"?
[16:37] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Or is that "/dev/mapper/VolGroup.."?
[16:38] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: In any case, can you run "stat /mnt/*" and paste the output? We can check the permissions that way
[16:39] <tacotruck123> Catkiller: yep you are correct it is sdd
[16:39] <CatKiller> sorry "stat /media/"
[16:39] <CatKiller> sorry again "stat /media/*"
[16:44] <tacotruck123> CatKiller: Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) to that external.
[16:44] <tacotruck123> If I could just mount the network drive as root that would solve all my problems.
[16:44] <CatKiller> doesn't give me the info I need
[16:44] <CatKiller> namely the user and group
[16:44] <tacotruck123> sec pastebin
[16:46] <tacotruck123> CatKiller: http://pastebin.com/46fRthRY
[16:46] <triplc> hi all
[16:47] <reisio> hi triplc
[16:47] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Ok so your external HD is mounted as root but it has read permissions set so you should be able to read
[16:47] <oisa> Before 13.10, one had a GUI to change key mappings, e.g., CTRL is an extra ESCAPE. How can I do this easily in 13.10?
[16:47] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Can you try to "cp" a file to "/tmp" and paste the error
[16:47] <triplc> Hi. How to select between gnash/adobe-flash when both are installed ?
[16:47] <triplc> Hi. How to select between gnash/adobe-flash when both are installed ? (i am using 12.04)
[16:47] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: If that works, try to "cp" a file to the network drive and paste the error there
[16:47] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: use "cp" from the terminal
[16:47] <CatKiller> !cp | tacotruck123
[16:48] <CatKiller> that doesn't work?
[16:48] <CatKiller> "cp /media/...../file destination"
[16:49] <xangua> triplc: disable manually one of the plugins in your browser and restart it i guess, i would only use one
[16:49] <triplc> xangua: oh, thanks
[16:49] <familia> ubuntu
[16:50] <familia> iron euben trullo
[16:56] <Zaq_> по русски тут говорит кто?
[16:56] <bekks> !ru | Zaq_
[16:56] <bobbiesap> hi, what's the easiest way to migrate from evolution (maildir) to thunderbird ? I found some instructions but they either dont work (for maildir) or are too complicated for me
[16:57] <reisio> bobbiesap: check kb.mozillazine.org
[16:58] <Zaq_> не авторизирует на ubuntu-ru. пароль требует. чтоб простой вопрос задать головняка столько....
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[16:58] <Zaq_> днем весь мозг вынес то ему мыло то подтверди. сейчас все по новой.
[16:58] <tacotruck123> catkiller: undadmin@undubuntu:/media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01$ cp home /media/7C8C88828C883922
[16:58] <tacotruck123> cp: omitting directory `home'
[16:59] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Where is the error message you mentionned earlier
[16:59] <CatKiller> about not being able to read?
[16:59] <CatKiller> anyways you tried to cp a directory
[16:59] <tacotruck123> That comes up when I copy and paste through nautilus
[16:59] <CatKiller> cp a file insteadf
[16:59] <CatKiller> ok
[16:59] <bobbiesap> How To Migrate From Evolution To Thunderbird In Ubuntu Intrepid  describes how to migrate the mail, calender, tasks and address book. It  was written when Evolution defaulted to using mbox files, just like  Thunderbird does. Evolution 3.2.0 and later uses maildir files. If you  created your Evolution profile using a version that defaulted to maildir  you will need to use a tool to convert maildir files into mbox fi
[16:59] <CatKiller> or use "cp -r" to copy entire directories
[17:00] <Zaq_> дайте команду авторизации.
[17:00] <bekks> !ru | Zaq_
[17:00] <bobbiesap> reisio: i am not sure how to proceed with maildirarc or maildir2mbox
[17:00] <Zaq_>  /join #ubuntu-ru - HREN!
[17:01] <bobbiesap> reisio: what must i do exatcly?
[17:01] <Zaq_>  #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:01] <tacotruck123> CatKiller: admin@undubuntu:/media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01/home$ cd matt
[17:01] <tacotruck123> bash: cd: matt: Permission denied
[17:01] <kostkon> !register | ZadYree
[17:01] <kostkon> oops
[17:01] <kostkon> !register | Zaq_
[17:01] <lonewulf85> I forgot to tell me Ubuntu to use a previous /home partition as my current home help please.
[17:01] <Zaq_>  #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:01] <TheLordOfTime> Zaq_, you need to register your nickname,
[17:02] <kostkon> Zaq_, ^^
[17:02] <TheLordOfTime> !register > Zaq_
[17:02] <reisio> bobbiesap: probably have man pages or --help info
[17:02] <TheLordOfTime> Zaq_, read the private message Gribble just sent you it gives you links to explain things
[17:02] <Zaq_> i am register!
[17:02] <familia> no
[17:02] <bekks> Zaq_: you are not registered.
[17:02] <bobbiesap> reisio: which is easier between the two?
[17:02] <reisio> bobbiesap: no idea
[17:02] <familia> nnO
[17:02] <Zaq_> i am email verefi
[17:02] <deper29> I like to use man pages
[17:03] <kostkon> actually ns info says he/she actually is
[17:03] <bobbiesap> reisio: ok, will try, thqnks
[17:03] <tacotruck123> CatKiller: This would be easily fixed if I could mount network drive as root and then sudo nautilus from external to network drive.
[17:03] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: The opposite actually
[17:04] <kostkon> Zaq_, you need to identify yourself first:  /ns identify yourpassword
[17:04] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: Anyways: "stat matt"
[17:04] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: You are lacking permissions to access a specific directory from your external drive, that's all
[17:04] <tacotruck123> stat matt?
[17:04] <kostkon> Zaq_, do that in the freenode tab, not here
[17:04] <zee_> no matter what I try, I can not change the keyboard input from US to e.g. danish
[17:04] <bekks> tacotruck123: dont sudo nautilus, use gkse instead.
[17:04] <bekks> !sudo | tacotruck123
[17:05] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: You can change permissions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[17:05] <zykotick9> !gksudo | tacotruck123
[17:05] <lonewulf85> set ubuntu to use old /home partition in current isntall
[17:05] <zee_> ive managed to change the system default language.. Ive edited the user .profile.. everything.. But i cant change keyboard input..
[17:05] <zee_> What should I do?
[17:05] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: edit /etc/fstab
[17:06] <matzie> hi, 13.10, Behringer UCA-222 usb sound, want 5.1 over optical but no surround profile listed in pacucontrol.  Totally lost, any pointers please?
[17:06] <lonewulf85> zykotick9, Is that all no cp /dev/sda1/home needed?
[17:06] <matzie> *pavucontrol
[17:06] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: sure that's an option as well...
[17:07] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: well, you obviously can't copy from the /dev directory like that, but mount it to /mnt then copy away...
[17:07] <lonewulf85> zykotick9, So something like this /dev/sda2 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2 added to /etc/fstab
[17:08] <zee_> anyone?
[17:08] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: looks about right...
[17:08] <lonewulf85> so i do need the UUID of the old partition?
[17:08] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: using LABELS is best, then UUID, dev names SHOULD be avoided.
[17:08] <tacotruck123> catkiller: sudo chmod 777 -R or do I use 755?
[17:09] <bekks> tacotruck123: You dont use -R normally.
[17:09] <bekks> tacotruck123: Whats the directory you want to change the permissions?
[17:09] <lonewulf85> okay thanks
[17:09] <vov__> zee_, go to System Settings > Keyboard > Input Sources or something like that
[17:10] <zee_> vov, tried it. I only see US language. Not the other languages installed in the system.
[17:10] <tacotruck123> bekks, /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01
[17:10] <CatKiller> tacotruck123: "sudo chown user:group" maybe instead
[17:11] <vov__> zee_, there should be a '+' icon on the bottom
[17:11] <CatKiller> if that external HD is only used on your machine
[17:11] <zee_> yes
[17:11] <bekks> tacotruck123: sudo chown youruser:yourgroup /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01
[17:11] <bekks> tacotruck123: Thats all you need.
[17:11] <CatKiller> or else use a user that's likely to be the default user everywhere
[17:11] <zee_> vov__: yes, but theres no languages to add
[17:11] <vov__> Use that to install new layouts
[17:11] <tacotruck123> no idea what group is.
[17:12] <CatKiller> bekks: Yes but here it's a directory within that directory that's problematic
[17:12] <bekks> tacotruck123: The main group your user is in.
[17:12] <bekks> CatKiller: ?
[17:12] <bekks> tacotruck123: Pastebin "id" please, run it as your current user.
[17:12] <vov__> Weird when I do it I see a lot of languages
[17:13] <lzjqsdd> hi
[17:14] <lzjqsdd> 新手刚过来
[17:14] <CatKiller> bekks: That command will change the perms for one directory and he actually is trying to copy a directory within that directory which itself has no permissions set
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> !cn | lzjqsdd
[17:14] <tacotruck123> bekks, http://pastebin.com/FryL9JHv
[17:15] <bekks> tacotruck123: And which directory inside /media/46f4436e-16d6-42e5-9557-8a5ab3b6fe01 has no permissions to be copied?
[17:15] <lonewulf85> I need to look at someones /etc/fstab that is using a separate /home partition could someone toss in a pastebin link to it please?
[17:15] <tacotruck123> bekks, I need to copy everything so might as well change permissions for everything.
[17:16] <BlueFalcon2872> Hey, I was looking for some help with getting virtual box running automatically upon reboot so I can feed it into cuckoo. There are two routes that I see presently, the first is a sudo ifconfig vboxnet0 192.168.56.1, however this doesn't keep when you reboot... the second is to start up a VM and then turn around and stop it. Both of these routes work if done manually, but one seems really clumsy (basically would have to sleep the syst
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> BlueFalcon2872: add them in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line
[17:17] <bekks> tacotruck123: You are making things more complicated than needed. Either you use gksudo nautilus and you can copy everything, or you just chown everything to your user. No need for chmod.
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> lonewulf85  UUID=e4e3877b-bc56-4b59-931d-7c3de52b7db8 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[17:17] <lonewulf85> MonkyDust, thanks a bunch
[17:17] <Zaq_> help register my nickname...
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !register
[17:18] <Zaq_> !register
[17:18] <bgardner> Zaq_: She doesn't like to repeat herself.
[17:18] <Zaq_> <Zaq_ :Erroneous Nickname
[17:18] <BlueFalcon2872> ActionParsnip: does this file execute with normal user rights then?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> BlueFalcon2872: as root, but you can use su to run as any user you desire
[17:19] <BlueFalcon2872> as opposed to say init.d somescript
[17:19] <BlueFalcon2872> cause I think that may have been the problem lol, I was trying to sort out some complicated init.d method lol
[17:20] <Zaq_> In order to complete your registration, you must send the following
[17:20] <Zaq_> command on IRC:
[17:20] <Zaq_> Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!
[17:20] <BlueFalcon2872> in the order of execution upon booting, does init.d execute all startup services first, and then it runs rc.local?
[17:21] <Zaq_> #ubuntu-ru :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[17:23] <thanielPl> Hey, when i try to set up a VPN in 13.10 i get  only the option to do this by adding a config file(no forms available). And even with a config file i get an "unknown error". what could have caused this?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> thanielPl  did you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[17:25] <Semajnad> What chmod parameter can I use to give permissions on all files in a folder, but not folders and not recursive.
[17:25] <tacotruck123> looks like gksudo nautilus can pick up network share drive...looks to have solved my issue.
[17:25] <tacotruck123> Thanks.
[17:25] <thanielPl> MonkeyDust, yeah i installed all of them. when i try to connect via openvpn on the console it works with the same config
[17:25] <bekks> Semajnad: sudo chown myuser:mygroup *
[17:25] <tacotruck123> not sure how gksudo nautilus is different than sudo nautilus
[17:26] <bekks> Semajnad: or better use find . -type f ...
[17:26] <bekks> tacotruck123: sudo on graphical applications breaks things.
[17:26] <bekks> !gksudo tacotruck123
[17:26] <bekks> hmm.
[17:26] <Semajnad> bekks: Yes, they are in the group, but the group needs it's permissions changed for all the files in that folder.
[17:26] <bekks> !gksudo | tacotruck123
[17:26] <andry> find . -type f -name '*' -maxdepth 1 -exec chmod 777 {}
[17:26] <Semajnad> bekks: So i've got root:thenetwork, thenetwork needs read write and execute permissions on all files in the folder usr001
[17:26] <lonewulf85> anyone know what res the login screen needs to be for Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:26] <andry> for find
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> tacotruck123: sudo doesnt setup the environment and you can mangle the ownership of fles in $HOME for your user, preventing use of sudo at all
[17:26] <bekks> Semajnad: Because...? You are the owner then, you can do whatever you want with the files.
[17:27] <GeorgesLeYeti> Hi
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: do you mean the wallpaper?
[17:27] <bekks> andry: thats the worst approach possible.
[17:27] <Semajnad> bekks: But lets say the owner is root, and the group ownership is thenetwork, doesn't it need to be say rwxrwxr-- so the group can r w and x
[17:27] <bekks> andry: without a good reason, you dont all users being able to modify your files.
[17:28] <GeorgesLeYeti> I have a problem i wanna rename my user account so i used this tutorial: http://www.unixmen.com/how-rename-change-user-name-linux/
[17:28] <GeorgesLeYeti> It seems to works
[17:28] <andry> bekks .. i was just pointing out how to chmod all files, not recursive, no folders
[17:28] <bekks> Semajnad: No. For files, you only need 0664 then, and not 0774.
[17:28] <lonewulf85> well the login screen wallpaper. I want to change it and I am unsure about the res I think it is 468X800 or something small.
[17:28] <Semajnad> isn't 6 only r + w?
[17:28] <bekks> andry: You were pointing out on how to make all files modifiable by everyone.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> lonewulf85: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64001/how-do-i-change-the-wallpaper-in-lightdm
[17:28] <GeorgesLeYeti> but then i try to reinstall rvm with curl ...
[17:28] <ubuntuuserhappy> hello
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Semajnad: yes r + w = 6
[17:28] <bekks> Semajnad: Sure. You dont need x on files, unless they are executables.
[17:29] <andry> bekks, again, i was pointing out how to chmod all files, no folders, recursive .. this was an example
[17:29] <andry> 777 as place-holder
[17:29] <andry> okay?
[17:29] <lonewulf85> ActionParsnip, Thanks and cool name although I dislike parsnips :)
[17:29] <Semajnad> bekks:  Yes they are, so my question is, if the ownership of the folder usr001 is root:thenetwork, and I need thenetwork to have rwx permissions, what chmod command can I use to change all files in usr001 to rwxrwxr--
[17:29] <ubuntuuserhappy> im having an issue with nautilus (at least i think it is nautilus) im not getting it to display applications when i select properties and then open with
[17:29] <GeorgesLeYeti> and it says that the path of my previous user is protected why ? I mean why did he kept the name and path of my previous user and it didn't completly change the informations.
[17:30] <bekks> Semajnad: then use 0775
[17:30] <maujhsn> I am running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB and have not solved shutdown issues! HELP!
[17:30] <Semajnad> bekks: Yes, but instead of doing it individually for all files, what command will do it for all files in that folder I mean.
[17:30] <bekks> Semajnad: the command was already given.
[17:30] <ubuntuuserhappy> im running on 13.10, and the application has a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[17:31] <Semajnad> bekks: I know I could use chmod 775 file1, chmod 775 file2, but is there a way to do it for all files in that folder at once, rather then individually.
[17:31] <bekks> Semajnad: The command for doing it on all files was already given.
[17:31] <ubuntuuserhappy> semajnad: just do chmod 775 *
[17:31] <Semajnad> ubuntuuserhappy: Thank you ubuntuuserhappy
[17:32] <bekks> ubuntuuserhappy: That will catch all directories too, which is unwanted.
[17:32] <bekks> Semajnad: Do not do that.
[17:32] <Semajnad> bekks:  I can't see where it was given, unless I'm missing it.
[17:32] <rypervenche> Semajnad: You should do a find command like...
[17:32] <bekks> Semajnad: anry gave you a find ... command.
[17:32] <rypervenche> Semajnad: find . -mindepth 1 -type f -exec chmod 775 {} \;
[17:32] <Semajnad> rypervenche: And i run that in the folder I want to change all the files to?
[17:32] <rypervenche> Semajnad: Make sure you're cd'ed into the correct directory though.
[17:32] <ubuntuuserhappy> semajnad: if you dont want dirrectories to change use the one from ryper
[17:33] <Semajnad> rypervenche: , ubuntuuserhappy , bekks Thank you very much.
[17:33] <rypervenche> Semajnad: Otherwise, you can change the . to the actual directory name and it will work from anywhere.
[17:33] <maujhsn> Any users here in chat an expert with xchat in linux?
[17:33] <Semajnad> rypervenche: Awesome, thanks, that's helped loads :)
[17:33] <bekks> !anyone | maujhsn
[17:34] <genii> GeorgesLeYeti: The usermod commands given in that tutorial do not have the -a switch meaning "append" the group or name. So what happened is that whatever group or name you used in the commands is now the ONLY group or name the username belongs to
[17:34] <bazhang> maujhsn, try #xchat
[17:35] <_Zaq> !ru
[17:35] <maujhsn> bazhang Thanks!
[17:35] <bazhang> _Zaq, join #freenode for help with registering
[17:36] <RudyValencia> Hi, how do I change the home directory path for AD users in likewise-open 6.0?
[17:37] <fengshaun_> hi all, where are windows shares automounted in ubuntu?
[17:37] <GeorgesLeYeti> genii: is there any way to fix this ?
[17:37] <fengshaun_> so I can access them in terminal
[17:37] <fengshaun_> I can't find anything in the output of 'mount' and neither in /mnt nor /media
[17:38] <reisio> fengshaun_: then they aren't mounted
[17:38] <fengshaun_> reisio: but I can access them in nautilus and browse
[17:38] <genii> GeorgesLeYeti: It is a case now of where you need to access the system from recovery boot and manually add the groups back to the user
[17:38] <bekks> fengshaun_: Then they are mounted using gvfs.
[17:38] <reisio> fengshaun_: they might be mounted after you do that
[17:38] <fengshaun_> bekks: where do I find the mount point?
[17:38] <bekks> fengshaun_: BAsically nowhere.
[17:39] <fengshaun_> bekks: oh...
[17:39] <serpico> lista film
[17:40] <maujhsn> Is there a separate channel in ubuntu dedicated to "network-manager" issues?
[17:40] <syeekick> Asus CROSSHAIR IV FORMULA 890FX Socket AM3 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard   is this motherboard any good for running linux? along side the 290x ati carD?
[17:42] <bekks> !it > bekks
[17:43] <maujhsn> ubottu Is there a separate channel in freenode  dedicated to "network-manager" issues?
[17:44] <Zaq_> what is this - "Please log in before attempting to verify your registration." ?
[17:44] <genii> GeorgesLeYeti: So you boot to recovery, choose console login. Issue: mount -a -o remount,rw     ..and then: usermod -a G adm,dialout,cdrom,sudo,plugdev,users,lpadmin  <the-username>  ( this assumes the username is the one which was first made and had uid of 1000 and sudo/admin priveleges)
[17:44] <bazhang> Zaq_, join #freenode
[17:45] <Zaq_> Вы не зашли на канал. Наберите /join #<канал
[17:45] <bazhang> Zaq_, /join #freenode
[17:46] <jasonlfunk> I just did a fresh install of 12.04 on a new server. Curl/Wget are failing to verify Verisign certificates. I've tried running c_rehash, update-ca-certificates, etc and nothing seems to work. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:47] <Zaq_> " /msg NickServ identify <password>" wrote - "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Zaq_ kfrzzzzzzzz" - answer - "Please log in before attempting to verify your registration."
[17:47] <GeorgesLeYeti> genii: ok ty.
[17:47] <genii> GeorgesLeYeti: I forgot the - before the G in that command, apologies
[17:48] <genii> GeorgesLeYeti: So it would be usermod -a -G <etc...?
[17:49] <LjL> Zaq_: *first* you need to "/msg nickserv identify yourpassword", and *then* do the "verify register" thing
[17:50] <compdoc> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Linux-Kerrnel-3-12-in-Ubuntu-13-10-397013.shtml
[17:50] <Zaq_> Thank you for registering your nickname on the freenode IRC network!
[17:50] <Zaq_> Thank you for your interest in the freenode IRC network.
[17:51] <ninjahattori> hi, which css file controls gnome appearance? i'm trying to modify the headerbars but dunno where to start
[17:51] <Zaq_> " -NickServ- Invalid password for Zaq_."
[17:57] <wad> What's a good way to cause my CPU to be heavily used for a while?
[17:57] <wad> Wanting to try some power tests.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> wad: mencoder
[17:58] <reisio> wad: power tests?
[17:58] <wad> Yeah, want to burn the cpus and watch what happens.
[17:58] <wad> Fanks kicking on, battery usage, etc.
[17:59] <wad> looking at stress.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> wad: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/stress.1.html
[18:00] <wad> Ah, stress is what I needed.
[18:00] <wad> :) thanks!
[18:00] <wad> stress -c 4
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> !info stress
[18:00] <wad> sweet
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> wad: found that using The Internet.....
[18:00] <wad> Me too.
[18:01] <Bonson> hallo zusammen
[18:01] <wad> I did a google search, didn't immediately come up with gold, so I asked here, then continued to look online.
[18:01] <ubuntuuserhappy> i need some help getting an application to be recognized as a possible default application for a file type
[18:01] <ubuntuuserhappy> this is for a 13.10 system
[18:02] <ubuntuuserhappy> if anyone things they could help it would be appriciated
[18:02] <ubuntuuserhappy> *appreciated
[18:02] <chemist> Hi everyone... i've got a silly problem which is not actually ubuntu-related .. but more hardware related
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> ubuntuuserhappy  right click on the file, open with, 'always use this'
[18:02] <chemist> can i ask for advice anyway? :)
[18:03] <bazhang> chemist, ##hardware has a channel
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> chemist  if you're sweet
[18:03] <Bonson> würde als ubuntu 12.04 anfänger hilfe brauchen (ubuntu 12.04 usbdatenkabel xp sp3pc verbinden)
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> !de
[18:03] <chemist> I've got an "old" computer which won't start when i press the power-on button.... but if i heat it up with a heater for about 10-15 minutes it turns on :)
[18:03] <chemist> (when i press the button)
[18:03] <Bonson> thanks
[18:04] <chemist> I tried looking at the cables on the back side of the power-on button, but everything seems to be ok
[18:04] <gimmic> chemist: that is stereotypical of a cold solder issue
[18:05] <ubuntuuserhappy> monkeyoust: yes, the problem is getting the application to show up in the list of available applications
[18:05] <chemist> my guess is that a random cable is somewhere exposed (not isolated) and it absorbs water...when i heat it up, the water evaporates and there is current flowing again
[18:05] <chemist> gimmic what's that?
[18:06] <chemist> a bad solding point?
[18:06] <chemist> ok probable .. but where?
[18:06] <serpico> !list
[18:06] <chemist> gimmic in the power supply?
[18:07] <chemist> somewhere on the mb
[18:07] <ubuntuuserhappy> monkeydust:  yes, the problem is getting the application to show up in the list of available applications, and 13.10 is different from what ever you are recomending, the always use is buried in preferneces for the file
[18:07] <gimmic> in wherever you're heating it up
[18:07] <chemist> the heater is pretty big
[18:07] <chemist> it's heating the whole side of the computer box
[18:08] <ubuntuuserhappy> is anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?
[18:08] <genii> chemist: I think you would probably get more appropriate help for your issue in the ##hardware channel
[18:08] <chemist> genii just joined... thanks
[18:08] <genii> chemist: Good luck!
[18:14] <ubuntuuserhappy> anyone good with nautilus or really familiar with how default applications are set and configured? need help with 13.10
[18:15] <templer> can anyone help? installed xubuntu 12.04 for my parents and they love it compared to their windows experience however installed evolution for email as its closer to what they are used to and want but it isnt printing to our network printer lexmark t640. most programs print no problem had an issue with the default pdf viewer not printing either but installed acrobat reader and it prints now.... anyone have any ideas.... is this a gnome issue seeing evolutio
[18:15] <templer> n is not native to xfce... still cannot find a way to get evolution to print after much searching
[18:16] <Ubuntubruger5> hello i have a question about software installing on a XBMCubunto machine
[18:16] <goldstar> I have installed saucy, it takes like 5 min for it to resolve to the network whenever I startup the PC
[18:17] <Ubuntubruger5> wah i need is to install ethool on my Zotac Zbox ID11 with XBMCubunto, is this possible ?
[18:19] <Okitain> Ubuntubruger5: depends on whether you have console.
[18:20] <Ubuntubruger5> oki don't know what you mean sorry, but i was hoping it was possible to install it from my terminal on my macbook
[18:23] <Ubuntubruger5> is this possible and could you help me please ;)
[18:23] <Okitain> Ubuntubruger5: can you somehow run some sort of a terminal application on the XBMCbuntu?
[18:24] <cgos> greetings
[18:24] <Ubuntubruger5> sorry i don't know im total newbe
[18:24] <cgos> by change any idea why "if [! -f "file.txt"]  would throw a "command not found" in bash?
[18:25] <Ubuntubruger5> i had a friend back in time who installed some application to my xbmcubunto via my macbook
[18:26] <Palmertree> howdy
[18:26] <cpined> hello, I have an issue with virtual box and Mint as the guest OS...When I start Mint from my windows host and connect via RDP from my Ununtu desktop the log in flow start off ok but then the guest OS appears on the windows lap top and not in the RDP session...this only happens with Mint
[18:26] <genii> !mintsupport | cpined
[18:27] <cpined> thanks
[18:27] <ubuntuuserhappy>  is anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?
[18:33] <templer> can anyone help? installed xubuntu 12.04 for my parents and they love it compared to their windows experience however installed evolution for email as its closer to what they are used to and want but it isnt printing to our network printer lexmark t640. most programs print no problem had an issue with the default pdf viewer not printing either but installed acrobat reader and it prints now.... anyone have any ideas.... is this a gnome issue seeing evolutio
[18:33] <templer> n is not native to xfce... still cannot find a way to get evolution to print after much searching
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> EminentDomain: did you install the Lexmark driver from the Lexmark site? They do make drivers for some of their products
[18:35] <templer> will try that agin but didnt help last time
[18:35] <templer> most applications can print to it but just evolution and evince i think
[18:35] <templer> so makes me think its not a lexmark driver issue
[18:36] <templer> evolution and evince cannot
[18:40] <flash_> Hi guys. I'm having some strange trouble with my laptop. It's a core i7, so 64 bit, and as far as I can recall I installed 64 bit Ubuntu. Today I downloaded a 64 bit setup for Qt and it wouldn't install, saying "Cannot execute binary file". I then downloaded another program, also in 64 bit and same error. I then tried the 32bit versions of both and they worked. Can someone help me debug this?
[18:41] <ianorlin> can you run uname -a from the terminal |
[18:41] <ianorlin> flash_
[18:41] <flash_> Linux staple 3.12.0-1-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 29 18:42:35 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:41] <xangua> flash_: looks like 32 bit
[18:42] <x_root> probably, in settings>details appears if is 32 or 64 bit, right?
[18:42] <flash_> Ah yes, I see it now. It thinks it's 32 bit.
[18:43] <ObrienDave> 64 bit would look something like this: Linux david-vaio 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:43] <flash_> Is there any way I can change to 64bit without reformatting?
[18:43] <x_root> try to save your files in another partition
[18:43] <xangua> flash_: no
[18:43] <Ari-Yang> flash_: uhhh.. so you installed a 64bit ubuntu on a 32?
[18:43] <Ari-Yang> flash_: I recommend you just re-install and this time make sure it's 32bit ubuntu...
[18:44] <flash_> Ari-Yang, other way around. 32bit on a 64.
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> oh
[18:44] <Ari-Yang> well nab a 64bit ubuntu then :b
[18:44] <flash_> I suppose I'll have to
[18:44] <flash_> Darn
[18:44] <flash_> Just as I had everything nicely set up
[18:45] <xangua> flash_: i don't see any issues in using 32bit
[18:46] <ObrienDave> no issues until you want to run a 64bit app. LMAO
[18:47] <flash_> heh, indeed.
[18:47] <IsmAvatar> Hey guys. Recently upgraded to 13.10 and now I'm getting slowness between graphics and the mouse in glxgears and other graphically intensive apps.
[18:47] <flash_> Oh well... let the process begin.
[18:47] <flash_> Thanks for the help
[18:47] <joossee> IsmAvatar, opensource or proprietary driver?
[18:47] <IsmAvatar> proprietary
[18:48] <IsmAvatar> desktop won't even show with open source driver
[18:49] <joossee> IsmAvatar, there is much in the forums about this issue... including like 800 ways to install the proper driver.. which have you tired?
[18:49] <ObrienDave> all 799 of them ;)
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: what video chip(s)?
[18:49] <joossee> lol
[18:49] <gendl> Hi, has anyone seen these major NFS hangs in 12.04, as described here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1046285 and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1006446  ?
[18:50] <everald> Hello. The "Dash home" has gotten very slow in Ubuntu 13.10, and I notice that the search results that it shows are first internet stuff, then local documents, then programs. Exactly the wrong order, I'd say... it should find programs first. When I hit enter before the programs are displayed, it opens some random other stuff.
[18:50] <IsmAvatar> Caicos XT Radeon HD 7470
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: no Intel GPU as well?  sudo lshw -C display       will show you
[18:52] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: it only lists the Radeon 7470.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: if you remove then readd the driver, does it help?
[18:53] <IsmAvatar> you want me to try resintalling the proprietary driver? I suppose I could give it a shot.
[18:53] <joossee> IsmAvatar, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Saucy_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29
[18:53] <gendl> ubottu: I have seen those NFS bug reports, but is there an official workaround or configuration setting to avoid the problem?
[18:53] <ghanhass_> hello
[18:53] <joossee> IsmAvatar, my understanding is that some ATI drivers just arent availabledue to AMD's policies and you are doomed to shitty specson some cards, notnecessarilyyours
[18:54] <joossee> man i need a new spacebar
[18:54] <IsmAvatar> joossee: would this matter over a 13.04 -> 13.10 upgrade? Because everything was working beautifully before the upgrade.
[18:55] <ubuntu-addict> Hello. How can I use awk to read 2 files simultaneously. I want to  get the 2 term of 1st line and sum. I tried awk 'NR=1 {A=$1,next}  {B=$1} {print A+B}' file1 file2. But the B is not correct. Any  help?
[18:55] <Oxymoron> Could someone help me understand this. My router even though firewall was off, blocked only my Ubunut computer in network. Then I accidently found know Computers in firewall and added my computer there. Then suddenly Internet access again. Why does this ONLY happen to Ubuntu and no other OS? Internet was working on the other Windows 8.1 and my iPhone 5.
[18:55] <joossee> IsmAvatar, i run 12.04 so.. i dunno  actionparsnip is the master here
[18:55] <Oxymoron> I am using latest Ubuntu 13.10
[18:56] <joossee> Oxymoron, could be a hundred reasons. you can spoof MAC in ubuntu not in windows and so on..
[18:57] <joossee> Oxymoron, is there a question in there somewhere? seems like everything is resolved?
[18:57] <ubuntuuserhappy>  is anyone here really familiar with nautilus and setting default applications for file types?
[18:58] <xangua> !anyone | ubuntuuserhappy
[18:58] <joossee> ubuntuuserhappy, google knows
[18:58] <Oxymoron> joossee: Well I have been arguing like 100 times with my ISP and complaining about their router. Now it seems to be something with Ubuntu. I would like to know exactly why Ubuntu is blocked and not any other OS.
[18:58] <ubuntuuserhappy> joossee: no google does not know
[18:58] <joossee> Oxymoron, dump the isps router or plug your own router into ISPS router\
[18:58] <IsmAvatar> joossee: lol, reading through that page you linked, I realize how old it is by the fact that it references the old Menu
[18:58] <ubuntuuserhappy> xangua: because ive asked the question and got nothing with that either, ill try again
[18:58] <joossee> ubuntuuserhappy, wanna bet on it?
[18:59] <ubuntuuserhappy> joosee: yep
[18:59] <xangua> hi everyone, after I upgraded ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 my bluetooth dongle stop being recognized; any suggestion on this issue¿
[18:59] <joossee> 1 bitcoin sez googleknows
[18:59] <Oxymoron> joossee: Is it somekind of security in Router to automaticly block Linux and Ubuntu devices? This is very weird also, because this block only happens sometimes and if you restart router it freeze the wifi name detection etc.
[18:59] <BluesKaj> !google
[18:59] <BluesKaj> joossee.^
[18:59] <Oxymoron> joossee: The router system log doesnt help.
[19:00] <ubuntuuserhappy> joossee: you want to see if you can google my problem?
[19:00] <Oxymoron> joossee: Usually this happens ONLY if Transmission start a download, then it kind of get blocked by router and screw around with the network. Sometimes all devices get blocked, but usually only Ubuntu device.
[19:00] <joossee> ubuntuuserhappy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/66524/why-cant-i-make-a-file-association-in-nautilus
[19:01] <joossee> ubuntuuserhappy, GOOGLE sez us PCmanFM or install tweak
[19:01] <xangua> Oxymoron: only if transmission is open¿ maybe too many petitions¿
[19:01] <joossee> ubuntuuserhappy, usePCmanFm to set the associations then switch back to nautilus.. or just install tweak
[19:02] <joossee> Oxymoron, what xangua said
[19:02] <Oxymoron> xanguam, joossee: whats petitions?
[19:02] <joossee> Oxymoron, if i remember correctly, windows can use way less open tcp connections then ubuntu so you are likely activaiting a security trigger in your rotuer
[19:03] <semajnad_> Does anyone know what this message means in vi when doing :wq " Cannot write viminfo file /home/thenetworkadmin/.viminfo!"
[19:03] <joossee> Oxymoron, your router will have some anti flooding parameters setup which may be triggered by ubuntus speed. (simple answer)
[19:03] <Oxymoron> joossee: Which mean Ubuntu is opening up too many TCP connections? :S
[19:03] <joossee> Semajnad, use sudo before launching vmi
[19:03] <joossee> vim
[19:04] <joossee> Oxymoron, "too many" is a relative term. morelikelyyour isp hates torrent traffic
[19:04] <Oxymoron> joossee: Alright, techiniquans on ISP suck ashole then. They said they didnt have that kind of security in the router.
[19:04] <joossee> Semajnad, u probablydont have write permissions on the file
[19:04] <Oxymoron> joossee: I explicity asked ISP about that, and they said NOT limits.
[19:05] <Oxymoron> joossee: I presume the CIO didnt tell them or something ....
[19:05] <joossee> Oxymoron, honestlybro, ditch the ISP's router and get yourselfan ASUS 66N andput tomato on it... a$150 router just became a $3000 switch
[19:06] <Oxymoron> joossee: Well yes, I have my own Netgear DualBand Gigabit router, BUT problem is that it doesnt support 4g. I dont have fiber.
[19:06] <joossee> Oxymoron, if the router is necessary for whatever reason, just plud a new routerintothe isp router and DMZ it, then use your router for all security
[19:06] <Oxymoron> joossee: Which would explain why they have built in flood protection in 4G router.
[19:06] <Oxymoron> joossee: Dual plug two routers? :S
[19:06] <joossee> Oxymoron, yes exactly... the fact that your are using a cellular connection certainlywont help thruput wise
[19:07] <joossee> Oxymoron, more like serial plug, but yes
[19:07] <Oxymoron> Isnt that very slow to have two routers? :D
[19:07] <joossee> Oxymoron, not atall...
[19:07] <GZA-Genius> Oxymoron: nope
[19:07] <joossee> Oxymoron, i mean are you getting more than 100mbps off your 4g connection? i doubt it!
[19:08] <Oxymoron> joossee: No I do not, but I do not understand why it shouldnt be slower latency if you let network traffic pass through 2 routers instead of one?
[19:08] <npc_> Hi, how i can create backup on ubuntu server ?
[19:09] <joossee> Oxymoron, do you have any idea howmany routers your netflix packet goes thru beforehittingyours? 1 or10morein the chain wontmatter
[19:10] <joossee> Oxymoron, the typeof latency your describing is sosmall in a commercial internet access context as to be irrelevant
[19:10] <Oxymoron> joossee: Well hehe, a lot :P But my point is, two gateways through is more likely it cause some kind of error then one gateway?
[19:10] <joossee> Oxymoron, once you get on google fiber we can talk, but even then its just a matter of getting gigabit routers instead of 100mbit
[19:11] <moondog> but isn't NAT on NAT bad?
[19:11] <Oxymoron> joossee: Google Fiber?
[19:11] <joossee> moondog, no NAT, just DMZ
[19:11] <moondog> probably can't turn off NAT on the ISP router
[19:11] <joossee> moondog, onlybecomes a problem for inbound connections
[19:12] <joossee> moondog, and even that is just a matter of sorting your routing tables
[19:12] <moondog> k, just curious
[19:12] <Oxymoron> moondog: I can switch to bridgemode instead of NAT, which is DMZ I think, joossee?
[19:12] <sirronb> I need help. Grub is not showing my windoze installation anymore. I need to get my Windoze installation going. Please!!!
[19:12] <moondog> bridge mode would be nice
[19:13] <joossee> Oxymoron, yes tHAT SHOULD WORK
[19:13] <Oxymoron> joossee: So my issue is torrent teqnique "flood" my router with too many TCP connection, which is more than Windows can handle. In other ways, Ubuntu can handle more connections then my router, but Windows do not and never trigger anything.
[19:14] <joossee> Oxymoron, im still confused though.. i thought everything was working now?
[19:14] <joossee> Oxymoron, if youre question  is "are tech supportpeoplechumps?"the answer is yes
[19:15] <Oxymoron> joossee: Yes, at the moment. Not sure if the setting I added is permanently, it just added my current IP to know computers in firewall of router.
[19:15] <joossee> Oxymoron, in both windows and ubuntu the machine is using DHCP yes?
[19:15] <mmazing> i'm trying to get better popup notifications for skype, after receiving a message nothing flashes etc with unity so if i don't see the initial notification, i don't notice the message until later - skype can run a command when a message is received, i'm just not sure what to use
[19:15] <mmazing> im on 12.04
[19:15] <Oxymoron> joossee: yes and i prefer not use static ip.
[19:16] <joossee> yes no i agree
[19:16] <mmazing> and yes, i know skype is a POS, etc, i unfortunately have to use it for work reasons
[19:16] <joossee> then here is why u had problem: you prolly boot into ubuntu before DHCP has released the IP your windows os was using? ergo firewall gets confused... again 100's of possible reasons
[19:17] <mmazing> i'm mainly looking for some sort of command that will pop up a notification (not modal or a dialog box) that will stay there until i click it
[19:17] <Oxymoron> joossee: Yes, I guess I jiopöåä
[19:17] <Oxymoron> joossee: hate network*
[19:18] <Oxymoron> joossee: My dog mistyped :D
[19:19] <Oxymoron> joossee: Quite ironic, because I am educate myself in computer engineering :P
[19:19] <IsmAvatar> reinstalling the proprietary driver didn't help, and now Action's gone, looks like
[19:20] <joossee> Oxymoron, well if you wanna add network engineer to your resume look into wireshark and then youll be able to see exactly what is making your router trip balls
[19:21] <joossee> IsmAvatar, hell be back
[19:22] <Oxymoron> joossee: Yes I know how to use wireshark, however its quite hard to filter this issue I am having. Even if I filter to tcp, its A LOT of traffic.
[19:22] <joossee> anyone here using a TPLINK WDN4
[19:23] <joossee> anyone here using a TPLINK WDN4800
[19:23] <joossee> Oxymoron, there are way more filters you can put in place
[19:23] <joossee> Oxymoron, id start with ICMP and broadcast packets personally
[19:24] <mirak> Would there be a way to import pictures directly from google photo to shotwell ?
[19:24] <CodeOmegaPrime> I am running Ubuntu 13.04 and have the gnome3-team PPAs installed. My mouse keeps freezing randomly for 1 - 20 secs and then resuming. I have searched launchpad and have found a reference to the PPAs causing this behavior however this makes little sense to me as the PPA is not even used unless I am accessing its software through aptitude or synaptic package manager unless I am not understanding something properly. Has anyone
[19:24] <CodeOmegaPrime> else experienced this issue?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> CodeOmegaPrime  why do you use the PPA's?
[19:27] <tasslehoff> is there a dedicated channel for MacTel? I'm considering upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10, and want to check if there are any hurdles/roadblocks to be expected.
[19:27] <mirak> I can't change my screen refresh rate to 24hz on 13.04 and 13.10
[19:27] <tasslehoff> (on a retina MacBook Pro)
[19:27] <mirak> what is the issue ??
[19:28] <CodeOmegaPrime> MonkeyDust because I hate Unity and I like gnome3 and do not want to use gnome2. Unless there is someting "wrong" with using PPA's as I have done so many times in the past please enlighten me.
[19:29] <OerHeks> !nounity
[19:29] <xangua> CodeOmegaPrime: have you tried to remove that ppa¿
[19:31] <Linuxuser10000> hello
[19:32] <Linuxuser10000> i've set my clock to 12 hour time but now my am/pm part is gone
[19:32] <Linuxuser10000> is there any way to fix it
[19:32] <Linuxuser10000> ?
[19:32] <genii> mirak: I am unaware of any monitors which are able to do such a slow refresh rate. Perhaps you are mixing the idea of frames per second with refresh rate of the monitor.
[19:32] <reisio> Linuxuser10000: no windows?
[19:32] <CodeOmegaPrime> xangua that was my next step but was seeing first if anyone had experienced the same behavior. Only dumb question is an unasked one. I will attempt to remove the PPA's and their packages and install the appropriate Ubuntu package I would take it in 13.04 that would be just install gnome-shell
[19:32] <Luc111> anyone can help me with draftsight?
[19:33] <Linuxuser10000> what do you mean by no windows reisio
[19:33] <Linuxuser10000> ?
[19:34] <Oxymoron> joossee: Yes, maybe I do it later.
[19:34] <reisio> it's usually obvious whether it's day or night, if you don't live in a prison cell :)
[19:34] <Semajnad> Why is it when I make a user called networkadmin and assign them to the home directory of /home/networkadmin, I then login as networkadmin and create a folder, why is that folder then owned by root:root?
[19:35] <lmat> I have a server to which someone has sftp access. He would like to change his password (but only has sftp access), how should I proceed?
[19:35] <Linuxuser10000> i've checked my dconf and the setting for the am pm stuff is there
[19:35] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad does it belong to the root "group"
[19:35] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: What? The folder?>
[19:35] <mirak> genii, so are you gong to play 1080p 24fps movies ?
[19:36] <Semajnad> ls
[19:36] <Oxymoron> joossee: Thank you for helping me understand :) Now I know what the problem is, Ubuntu is to high tech for my router :D
[19:36] <bekks> lmat: Convince him to use public key authentication.
[19:36] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad well sorry should have been more specific. The folder and the user networkadmin
[19:36] <lmat> bekks: hmmm...I'm the server admin. Is public key more secure ?
[19:36] <bekks> lmat: Yes, it is.
[19:36] <mirak> genii, if youy have an home theater computer, then changes are that it's connected to a HDTV, wich all support 24hz, and every modern monitor support 24hz as well to play bluray movies.
[19:37] <lmat> bekks: The password isn't written down anywhere, but the private key is on his hard drive. In what way is it more secure (besides brute force attacks) ?
[19:37] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: networkadmin is the home directory of networkadmin by using useradd -d /home/networkadmin -m networkaadmin
[19:37] <Semajnad> But it's saying it's owned by root:root and everything inside it even though I made it all while logged in as networkadmin
[19:37] <jamin> I've got a W530 that was working fairly well under 13.04 with the nvidia graphics in discrete mode.  After upgrading to 13.10, I find that unless I'm connected to AC the driver refuses to acknowledge my GPU, anyone else seen this?
[19:37] <genii> mirak: Most modern monitors begin at refresh rates of 60Hz and progress from there upwards.
[19:38] <unto> hello
[19:38] <mirak> genii, internally the minotors and hdtv probably work at 48hz or 72hz or even 96hz, but they will report a 24hz mode to the graphic card
[19:38] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad run "sudo groups networkadmin" without the quotes and run a "ls -al" without the quotes on the directory and what is the owner of the folder.
[19:38] <reisio> unto: hi
[19:38] <mirak> genii no you are wrong, you know nothing, so please stop talking
[19:38] <Linuxuser10000> so what should i do to fix my tiem
[19:38] <kostkon> genii, he talks about vsync i guess
[19:38] <Linuxuser10000> *time
[19:38] <bekks> lmat: The key is far more complex. And in addition, the key itself can be protected by the nowhere-written-down password. So an attacker would both need the secret password of the key (which you as the admin will never get) and the complex key to authenticate.
[19:38] <Oxymoron> I would like to know, is it possible to fix automaticly switch screen/audio to external, when plugin HDMI?
[19:38] <genii> kostkon: Seems like something other than "refresh rate", yes.
[19:38] <lmat> bekks: Right, thanks.
[19:39] <Linuxuser10000> can anyone help me fix it
[19:39] <Linuxuser10000> ?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> !help | Linuxuser10000
[19:39] <kostkon> genii, actually it's about syncing fps with the refresh rate or i guess even the opposite is possible
[19:39] <mirak> kostkon, no i am talking about refresh rate. The OS doesn't care if the TV works at 200hz internally, it just care about the reported refresh rates availables, wich 24hz is part of.
[19:39] <lmat> bekks: With public key authentication, the way to log in from different devices is to copy the private key to those devices, right ?
[19:40] <mirak> genii, NO YOU ARE WRONG
[19:40] <Semajnad> thenetworkadmin can create folders inside his home directory but anything deeper down the folder tree gets given perms of root:root even though thenetworkadmin makes it
[19:40] <mirak> genii, you just don't know what you are talking about
[19:40] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime:
[19:41] <bekks> lmat: No, no, no. The privat key always stays private. The public key component is copied to the server, and when login in, the user has to enter his secret password to unlock the secret key, which is then used to authenticate against his public key.
[19:41] <Linuxuser10000> !patience
[19:41] <bekks> lmat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:41] <lmat> bekks: Right, so the private key is on his computer (A). When he is using a different computer (B), he needs to copy the private key from A to B in order to login to the server (C), right ?
[19:42] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad ?
[19:43] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: Ah, hold on I think I got it. :P
[19:43] <bekks> lmat: No. :) The user can create as many secret/public key pairs, and is just required to provide you (as the admin for being able to initially enter them to "/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys") those public keys.
[19:44] <lmat> bekks: AH. So he can create more than one private key for one public key ? Or he would send me another public key (for his other computer, B)?
[19:44] <jamin> if I boot the laptop on battery only, I get the following in Xorg.0.log:
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> lmat you can have separate private keys for different machines. the authorized keys can take a list of different public keys
[19:44] <jamin> (EE) NVIDIA(0): The NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0 is not supported by the 319.60
[19:44] <bekks> lmat: No. One public key belongs to one private key and vice versa.
[19:44] <jamin> but if I reboot with AC power, all is fine.  This used to work either way under 13.04
[19:44] <lmat> bekks: Okay. If I have any other questions, I will ask you :)
[19:44] <bekks> lmat: He would send you the public keys for A and B, you enter them, and thats it. BEfore asking, just read the link given ;)
[19:45] <lmat> bekks: heh, okay :)
[19:45] <joossee> journal73newspaper35shinmoon
[19:45] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad Cool, let me know what it was :)
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> jamin: what nvidia gpu is this? I would suspect something is being disabled of battery mode, but i've never seen such an issue before.
[19:47] <hitsujiTMO> s/of/on
[19:47] <IzarrenHautsa> Hi, can someone translate this to me please: Size: 4 3/4”W x 6 1/2”L x 3 1/2”H
[19:47] <jamin> hitsujiTMO: $ lspci -vv -s 01:00.0
[19:47] <jamin> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M] (rev ff) (prog-if ff)
[19:47] <jamin> 	!!! Unknown header type 7f
[19:47] <IzarrenHautsa> to centimeters
[19:47] <jamin> there is indeed something being disabled in battery mode, based on the lspci output
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> jamin  better use !pastebin
[19:47] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: I stupidly logged in as root and created and installed everything, just my mind went to mush when I logged in, instead of logging into thenetworkadmin ;)
[19:48] <jamin> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360607/
[19:48] <AlanBell> mirak: you have a display that accepts inputs at 24Hz?
[19:48] <jamin> if I boot with AC connected, the output looks more like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360613/
[19:49] <AlanBell> mirak: can you do sudo apt-get install read-edid then "sudo get-edid |parse-edid |pastebinit" and tell me the url you get, that will dump your monitor timings
[19:49] <joossee> wow! looks like this card TPLINK WDN4800 worked rightout the box innative 12.04installed system!!
[19:50] <AlanBell> generally monitor timings don't matter unless you have a CRT, everything else sorts itself out just fine without messing about, I am guessing it is an esoteric display of some kind mirak
[19:53] <joossee> WOOOOOOOWWWW
[19:53] <joossee> This TPLINK WDN4800 works right even in 12.04 installer!!
[19:54] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad : I have been there glad you got it fixed!
[19:54] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: Haha, thanks anyway :P
[19:55] <CodeOmegaPrime> Semajnad : any time!
[19:56] <mirak> AlanBell, please do research on google before doing like you know what you are talking about
[19:56] <mirak> AlanBell, because I tell you here, that you don't.
[19:56] <jamin> seems like the new nvidia driver in 13.10 is trying to be too intelligent, possibly powering off the GPU even though it's in discrete mode
[19:58] <mirak> AlanBell, since around 2007, HDTVs support 24hz. This is obviously to be able to play 24 frame per seconds movies wich is the cinéma standard. Many monitors supports this as well. My Sony KDL W4000 supports this.
[19:58] <mirak> AlanBell, my monitor Asus VG23AH supports this as well. There is nothing spectacular.
[19:58] <AlanBell> so lets see the edid then
[19:58] <mirak> AlanBell, what's the point ?
[19:59] <mirak> AlanBell, I have this working since Ubuntu 8.04 or something
[19:59] <mirak> AlanBell, but it's broken since 13.04
[20:00] <mirak> the edid is really no the issue.
[20:00] <mirak> If i do xrandr I clearly see 60 50 24 but it won't switch to 24
[20:00] <OerHeks> mirak, the EDID can help searching for an answer, you want that, don't you?
[20:02] <mirak> OerHeks, you want the edid from a ubuntu version that can switch to 24hz or the one of an ubuntu that can't switch to 24hz ?
[20:03] <Skapare> has anyone installed either 13.10 or 12.04.X on 'ASUS Republic of Gamers G750JH-DB71 17.3" Notebook' ? ... I'm looking at maybe buying one of these and wonder if Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) will work on it with support for all the things (video, wifi, audio, etc)
[20:03] <OerHeks> mirak from the monitor you are trying to switch to 24 hz
[20:04] <lmat> I'm trying to set up ssh public key authentication for another user, but it doesn't looks like the server recognizes the fact that he has keys
[20:04] <mirak> OerHeks, i have actually a TV and a monitor that can switch to 24hz, and both are cloned
[20:04] <Skapare> lmat: specific message?
[20:04] <lmat> Skapare: It asks for a password.
[20:05] <lmat> Skapare: The user is using sftp to connect to the server.
[20:05] <mirak> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360703/
[20:05] <lmat> The user (steve) is set up with a chroot during ssh.
[20:05] <Skapare> did you try batch mode to see if that would fail? ... -o 'BatchMode yes'
[20:05] <mirak> AlanBell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6360703/
[20:05] <Skapare> lmat: do tests with normal ssh client first ... once that works, try other stuff
[20:06] <lmat> Skapare: ok
[20:06]  * Skapare has seen sftp fail when ssh works
[20:06] <mirak> from xrandr I have
[20:06] <mirak> HDMI-0 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1600mm x 900mm
[20:06] <mirak>    1920x1080      60.0*+   59.9     50.0     24.0     30.0     30.0     25.0
[20:06]  * Skapare didn't have the time to debug why
[20:06] <lmat> Skapare: okay, I changed his shell (in /etc/passwd) to bash and it doesn't work.
[20:06] <lmat> same behaviour :)
[20:07] <lmat> his key is installed at ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[20:08] <lmat> should it be in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key or something ?
[20:08] <Pici> lmat: no
[20:09] <lmat> Pici: okay, thanks :)
[20:10] <lmat> well crap. I logged into the server using public key...
[20:10] <lmat> oh, perhaps the problem is this
[20:11] <lmat> I'm logging in as steve (not me), and I put his public key in *my* ~/.ssh .
[20:11] <jamin> hitsujiTMO: if I reboot the same laptop with an older kernel (3.8.0-32-generic) the card is not disabled
[20:11] <joossee> how do i contribute to the HWcompatibility list
[20:11] <lmat> OH... perhaps I need -i
[20:11] <Semajnad> CodeOmegaPrime: Sorry to bother you again, but if I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/usrdir/Minecraft - if all of that is owned by thenetworkadmin:thenetwork, usr001 is part of the group thenetwork, finally if in sshd_config I have thenetwork group jailed to /home/thenetwork/%u/usrdir, why can't usr001 log into SFTP now?
[20:12] <tozen> hi all! ubuntu 12.10 has been updated till 13.04 as result got a problem with Shift+Prt Sc and Alt+Prt Sc combinations... login onto guest all works fine... so any ideas of what config file need to be deleted, please. thx
[20:12] <Fruckiwacki> Can the Ubuntu installation media mount luks encrypted harddisks so i can install it onto overlying lvm volumes?
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> jamin: can you file a bug report. I haven't been able to find any info as regards what the cause could be.
[20:12] <lmat> okay, this time the client said "Enter passphrase for key './stevesprivate':". I did, then it asked me for steve's password at the server.
[20:13] <lmat> So the server isn't authenticating properly :(
[20:13] <jamin> hitsujiTMO: will do... right now I have two theories...  it's either the nvidia module doing something on load or the newer Linux kernel
[20:13] <jamin> the 3.8 kernel doesn't have the module built for it and I don't currently have the headers installed for it, so I'm going to get those and build the module for it
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> jamin. I suspect some sort of power management changes.
[20:15] <Semajnad> If I've got a folder structure of /home/thenetwork/usr001/usrdir/Minecraft - if all of that is owned by thenetworkadmin:thenetwork, usr001 is part of the group thenetwork, finally if in sshd_config I have thenetwork group jailed to /home/thenetwork/%u/usrdir, why can't usr001 log into SFTP now?
[20:17] <mmazing> Semajnad: does Minecraft have group read permissions?
[20:17] <mmazing> or, usrdir
[20:17] <Semajnad> mmazing: Yes, drwxr-xr-x
[20:18] <mmazing> have you checked your ssh logs?
[20:18] <Semajnad> mmazing: Would that show failed sftp login attempts?
[20:18] <mmazing> that usually gives me the info i need when dicking with stuff like that
[20:18] <Semajnad> mmazing: Would it be a problem that thenetwork is thenetworkadmin's home directory?
[20:19] <Guest6175> Anyone:  what is command in terminal to check md5sum on usb stick?  < sudo !md5 > doesn't work
[20:19] <mmazing> semajnad: probably not
[20:19] <mmazing> Semajnad: check /var/log/auth.log
[20:19] <cpuguy83> Trying to write an upstart job that wraps starting a bunch of other jobs.  The other jobs do not detach (running docker start -a container_name).  I can run the separate tasks individually from the command line and they all return as expected.  When I wrap them in a pre-start script the job never returns, though it does fire off the other jobs
[20:19] <Mage_Dude> Can anyone think of a reason why running 'apt-get install some_package' from a script would fail (with cannot find package), while running the exact same command finds the package just fine?
[20:19] <IsmAvatar> Guest6175: if I want an md5, I usually go with openssl md5
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | Guest6175
[20:21] <lmat> okay, I can ssh as steve using keys.
[20:21] <Guest6175> wilee-nilee: i'm in the home directory.  what was the command you gave me the other day to check it throughout system?
[20:21] <Guest6175> i don't know how to check directories or change them.  wilee-nilee
[20:22] <Semajnad> mmazing: http://pastie.org/8455343 So it's having a problem with thenetwork folder, if thenetwork group does not have read permissions on thenetwork folder, will it complain with anything futher down?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest6175, I don't recall giving you any command.
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> but I barely remember my own name. ;)
[20:23] <Guest6175> a week ago maybe.  the commands i found on the links ubottu provided don't work. i have a learning disability
[20:24] <mmazing> Semajnad: what version of openssh do you have ? (sshd -v)
[20:24] <Semajnad> mmazing: "OpenSSH_6.2p2 Ubuntu-6, OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013"
[20:24] <Guest6175> IsmAvatar: i've typed <openssl md5 >  it has not responded
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: you will need read permission all the way up the directory chain to the root ssh folder.
[20:26] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: It's complaining about thenetwork folder
[20:26] <mmazing> semajnad : this may be useful - http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes - good luck, i have to AFK for a bit
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> Semajnad: what are the permissions on that folder?
[20:26] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: "drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork"
[20:26] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: and usr001 is a member of thenetwork group
[20:27] <Guest6175> IsmAvatar: how long does terminal take to respond to that command?  its been a while
[20:28] <jmesta_> exit
[20:28] <Guest6175> i'll try another way.  bbl
[20:28] <_JuJuBee> Is there any software for malware checking for Ubuntu?
[20:28] <IsmAvatar> Guest6175: it's waiting for input
[20:29] <reisio> _JuJuBee: clamav
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> !av | _JuJuBee
[20:29] <Semajnad> hitsujiTMO: Apparently the chroot directory has to be owned by root?
[20:30] <Barrytheboy> hi I need some help my terminal is saying some mad stuff when I open it
[20:30] <jamin> hitsujiTMO: just confirmed that the same nvidia module version works fine with the older kernel version.  So, something between 3.8.0-32 and 3.11.0-13 has broken it.  Should I file the bug against 3.11.0-13?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  define "mad stuff"
[20:30] <Barrytheboy> No command '“alias' found, did you mean:
[20:30] <Barrytheboy>  Command '0alias' from package 'zeroinstall-injector' (universe)
[20:30] <Barrytheboy> “alias: command not found
[20:30] <Barrytheboy> “alias android-disconnect=”fusermount -u /media/lenovo”
[20:30] <Barrytheboy> No command '“alias' found, did you mean:
[20:30] <Barrytheboy>  Command '0alias' from package 'zeroinstall-injector' (universe)
[20:30] <FloodBot1> Barrytheboy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:30] <ianorlin> !pasteinit
[20:31] <ianorlin> !pastebinit
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> jamin: yes, if it belongs elsewhere it will get moved to the relevant place at least
[20:31] <reisio> Barrytheboy: can you use your terminal at all?
[20:31] <Barrytheboy> yes
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> Barrytheboy: have you modified .bashrc or .profile?
[20:32] <Semajnad> http://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork
[20:32] <Barrytheboy> im not really tech savvy lucky to make it this far lol
[20:32] <reisio> Barrytheboy: seems like you put a quotation mark in your ~/.bashrc
[20:32] <reisio> probably from an imperfect copy & paste
[20:32] <reisio> or from a shell script from one
[20:33] <Barrytheboy> I was trying to mount my ibm tablet
[20:33] <reisio> that's not really relevant
[20:33] <reisio> open up ~/.bashrc, find the quotation mark before the occurrence of 'alias', remove the quotation mark
[20:33] <Wiz_KeeD> What do you guys recommend as a dlna service to stream video to a smart tv?
[20:34] <RayWizard> what application displays login screen where you can select kde,gnome,unity,...? i messed up system and it displays cross cursor and nothing on logon
[20:34] <gimli_> anyone - want to check md5sum on usb stick.  what is the command in terminal?
[20:34] <Barrytheboy> do i just type ~/.bashrc
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  you put a " before the command 'alias', hence the error
[20:34] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> Barrytheboy: nano ~/.bashrc
[20:34] <LjL> Wiz_KeeD: i usually don't "recommend" but instead tell people to research their requirements. but, i'd probably start with minidlna, which is simple to configure and kinda tends to work
[20:35] <LjL> Wiz_KeeD, let someone type
[20:35] <Barrytheboy> so type "~/.bashrc
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  don't type the "
[20:36] <Barrytheboy> i've typed nano ~/.bashrc
[20:36] <Barrytheboy> and it brings up more stuff
[20:36] <Semajnad> http://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  tou don't need all that, just type 'alias' in the terminal, without the quotes
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> Wiz_KeeD: personally I avoid dlna, as a protocol it sucks. I try to go with players that support smb or nfs. But if you want something quick and easy to confure there's: minidlna
[20:37] <Barrytheboy> done
[20:37] <Barrytheboy> what next
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  whaqt do you want to do with alias?
[20:38] <Barrytheboy> when I open terminal i get all the text I sent you ealier I want to get rid of it
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: the problem is with his .bashrc having a invalid alias command, so it spouts a number of errors when he opens there terminal
[20:39] <reisio> Barrytheboy: open ~/.bashrc with a text editor
[20:39] <Barrytheboy> reisio how to I do that
[20:40] <Barrytheboy> sorry I'm not the best with this stuff
[20:40] <reisio> Barrytheboy: you don't know how to open a text editor?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Barrytheboy: either: nano ~/.bashrc    or gedit ~/.bashrc
[20:40] <Barrytheboy> lol nope
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> the basics of the basics :)
[20:40] <reisio> Barrytheboy: send this as an IRC message: /exec -o egrep -i '^.alias' ~/.bashrc | tail -1
[20:41] <Barrytheboy> i told u guys I know nothing lol
[20:41] <Semajnad> http://pastie.org/8455343 Does anyone know why this is happening, usr001 is part of the group 'thenetwork' and 'thenetwork' folder is the home directory of 'thenetworkadmin'. Finally, 'thenetwork' folder has the permissions : drwxr-xr-x 4 thenetworkadmin thenetwork 4096 Nov  4 19:58 thenetwork
[20:41] <Barrytheboy> see words like IRC mean nothing to me lol do I type all that stuff in terminal
[20:41] <reisio> Barrytheboy: where you typed 'see words like IRC'
[20:42] <reisio> Barrytheboy: copy & paste in what I said, after the colon
[20:42] <Rory> Semajnad: sshd's strict ownership/permissions requirements dictate that every directory in the chroot path must be owned by root and only writable by the owner.
[20:42] <PATRINOS-45> kanas elinas;
[20:42] <acuitus> I just wanted to thank you guys for your help the other day with the grub issue
[20:42] <tozen> Barrytheboy: the best way to how to rid off all unwanted .bashrc configs you've got is just delete current .bashrc file from your home dirrectory so just tipe in console rm .bashrc and restart console. profit
[20:42] <Barrytheboy> dont it said no such file or dicectory
[20:42] <reisio> acuitus: yw
[20:42] <Rory> Semajnad: From here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP-chroot#Troubleshooting
[20:42] <acuitus> the server cd evidently has had that problem before, since it has a "reinstall grub" option on it
[20:43] <PATRINOS-45> kanas elinas;;
[20:43] <acuitus> reisio: yeah you're the man, took two seconds and it worked like a champ
[20:43] <acuitus> now I am running web, tftp, and virtualbox headless on that thing and it runs like a top
[20:44] <Barrytheboy> i typed in rm .bashrc nothing happended
[20:44] <reisio> Barrytheboy: what does 'pwd' say?
[20:45] <Barrytheboy> guys I'm find this hard to follow thanks for the help but I'll see if their is something else I can do to get help lol
[20:45] <Barrytheboy> god knows I need it lol
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Barrytheboy: cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/
[20:45] <reisio> :/
[20:45] <Barrytheboy> hitsujTMO i tried it nothing happened
[20:46] <_JuJuBee> reisio: wilee-nilee:  I received an email "You have 24 hours to send 5 bitcoins to this address or i will release the
[20:46] <_JuJuBee> information below." followed by ALL of my personal information like bank account numbers and social security numbers and drivers license number etc....  I was instructed to make sure there is no malware on my computer.   Just wondered if it is possible in linux.
[20:46] <reisio> Barrytheboy: start a new terminal
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> Barrytheboy: retart the terminal now
[20:46] <Semajnad> Rory: Thank you for explaining that. Is there a way to do what I want to do then? I've tried so many different ways lol
[20:46] <abradley> anyone recommend an app to run on ubudesktop that will sync a destination cifs share with a local folder?
[20:46] <Barrytheboy> its gone lol
[20:46] <Barrytheboy> cheers guys :)
[20:46] <reisio> _JuJuBee: the only way to be 100% sure is to reinstall, but if they already have your information it's already out there
[20:46] <Barrytheboy> your amazing thanks
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Barrytheboy  is that a live session ("try ubuntu") or an "installed ubuntu"?
[20:47] <Barrytheboy> can I ask if anyone know how to install dmg2img on ubunut 13.10
[20:47] <reisio> abradley: rsync -av source/ destination/
[20:48] <abradley> reisio, I didn't realize that rsync could handle cifs. thanks a lot
[20:48] <reisio> abradley: rsync sees what the system sees
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> abradley  --progress is a nice option you can add with rsync
[20:48] <_JuJuBee> reisio:  I am in the process of changing bank accounts etc... Just want to make sure there is nothing capturing key strokes etc....
[20:49] <reisio> _JuJuBee: as I said, the only way to be sure is to reinstall the OS, and keep track from the point of installation forward
[20:49] <[Gentoo]> _JuJuBee: where do you store all this info?
[20:49] <XLV> i noticed that when i use eg unetbootin or universal usb installer, the install media has less boot options than the burned to cd same iso
[20:50] <XLV> eg the expert boot option which allows text boot and install for ubuntu server is missing, and others
[20:50] <_JuJuBee> [Gentoo]: noplace that I store it has all of it.  I am thinking a bank got hacked since all of this information is used for a mortgage application and we recently purchased a home
[20:50] <XLV> any tools that can write the iso to usb with the same boot optiosn provided?
[20:50] <hitsujiTMO> XLV: what OS are you on?
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> XLV  there's multisystem
[20:51] <reisio> _JuJuBee: the information you listed, however
[20:51] <reisio> _JuJuBee: anybody can get that info
[20:51] <XLV> HisaoNakai you mean the OS that the writing of the iso to usb is done?
[20:51] <XLV> HisaoNakai i suppose you propose dd the iso to usb?
[20:51] <killer> hey , How can i submit my software for ubuntu software center ,I don't know how create a .deb file ,can i directly send source code or something?
[20:51] <XLV> MonkeyDust with YUMI? i tried it too, same deal
[20:52] <reisio> bank account #, driver's license, social security number, these are easy to obtain
[20:52] <HisaoNakai> XLV: ???
[20:52] <kostkon> killer, http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[20:52] <_JuJuBee> reisio Social security and bank accounts?
[20:52] <XLV> HisaoNakai i tried using iso to usb tools over windows
[20:52] <reisio> and consequently you shouldn't really worry that someone has them (not worry anymore anyways)
[20:52] <kostkon> killer, you'll need to create a source package
[20:52] <Ubuntivity> Hello, can a Windows executable (running on Ubuntu through Wine) set itself to run at startup of Ubuntu?
[20:52] <reisio> _JuJuBee: anybody who's seen a check of yours, for example, has your bank account number
[20:52] <[Gentoo]> _JuJuBee: account number is not as bad as card number
[20:53] <reisio> _JuJuBee: social security is even easier to obtain
[20:53] <Semajnad> Rory: Sorry do you know how I can do what I want ?
[20:53] <HisaoNakai> XLV: It seems you want to talk to hitsujiTMO , not me :p
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntivity  i guess #winehq would be a better place to ask
[20:53] <reisio> it's not great that a person would have this information, but it's not like they would have had to infiltrate your OS to get it
[20:53] <kostkon> killer, or maybe not, if they already support click packages. not sure, read the guides on that page
[20:53] <[Gentoo]> Ubuntivity: dont think so
[20:53] <_JuJuBee> reisio: [Gentoo]:  I don't write checks from the accounts listed (only 1) so where would they get those account #'s?
[20:54] <reisio> _JuJuBee: a question worth asking
[20:54] <reisio> but you can't really do that much to a person with their bank account number
[20:54] <Ubuntivity> thanks MonkeyDust, [Gentoo]
[20:54] <reisio> not that anyone else couldn't do, anyways
[20:54] <XLV> hitsujiTMO you mean the OS that the writing of the iso to usb is done? i suppose you propose dd the iso to usb?
[20:54] <[Gentoo]> im no wine expert but im pretty sure it cant go outside... actually i think it depends what drives are set in the wine options
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> XLV: what OS are you on now and what iso do you want to burn
[20:54] <XLV> HisaoNakai sorry dude. they all seem greek to me
[20:54] <XLV> hitsujiTMO ubuntu 13.10 server 64bit, and a windows computer used
[20:54] <killer> kostkon: source package?
[20:54] <_JuJuBee> reisio: I realize that, just taking precautionary steps
[20:55] <kostkon> killer, nvm about that, read the guides at http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[20:55] <[Gentoo]> Ubuntivity: but wine is generally run as a unpriv user so it shouldnt be able to go anywhere near root system files
[20:55] <reisio> _JuJuBee: well don't waste your time on data that any random joe can get on you
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> XLV: dd is your only option. No tools have special support for 13.10 yet, so it defaults to a generic menu
[20:56] <reisio> _JuJuBee: but obviously if you can recall who you've _volunteered_ that information to recently, you can maybe inform the authorities that that person is trying to shake people down
[20:56] <XLV> hitsujiTMO i figured, in the end
[20:57] <_JuJuBee> reisio: I only gave that much info to a mortgage application recently
[20:57] <reisio> _JuJuBee: there you go
[20:58] <_JuJuBee> I doubt they are trying to extort bitcoins from me
[20:58] <reisio> _JuJuBee: probably some low level paper pusher
[20:58] <reisio> _JuJuBee: happens every day
[20:58] <reisio> it doesn't have to be the owner of the bank you applied for a mortgage with
[20:58] <reisio> it could be any random janitor or file copiest
[20:58] <[Gentoo]> _JuJuBee: whatever it is, im 99% sure its nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:58] <reisio> anybody who has access to the information
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> _JuJuBee: or they could have really bad security. Could even be a child of an employee using the bank laptop and copying the info from it.
[21:00] <_JuJuBee> I realize all of this, but still do not want to take chances.  I want to make sure there was no malware sending out my personal information like passwords etc...
[21:00] <irgautvol> Please help with lightdm not logging in anymore for main user only after upgrade to 13.10. I used gnome-fallback before upgrade and can't remember other personlised settings.
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> _JuJuBee: really unlikely
[21:00] <reisio> _JuJuBee: sure, just saying
[21:00] <_JuJuBee> I appreciate the support.
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> in fact i never heard of it happening to someone on linux
[21:00] <_JuJuBee> I feel the same, but don't want to take chances.
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> _JuJuBee: reinstall the OS if you don't want to take chances
[21:00] <[Gentoo]> not in real life
[21:01] <reisio> _JuJuBee: backup your personal files, reinstall the OS, install something like AIDE to keep track of system integrity, clamscan all your personal data
[21:01] <_JuJuBee> I am fairly certain Ubuntu is fine.
[21:01] <reisio> probably
[21:01] <[Gentoo]> if you're paranoid go ahead and reinstall anyway and backup if it will give you peace of mind
[21:02] <reisio> it's like these people think the people they're trying to shake down won't even remember they just filled out a form with all that information :p
[21:02] <_JuJuBee> So should I still install clamav? or is it a waste of my time?
[21:03] <reisio> _JuJuBee: both
[21:03] <_JuJuBee> So it is really moral support :)
[21:03] <[Gentoo]> to me it sounds more like a user typed thing than a virus type thing
[21:04] <_JuJuBee> I feel a little better, thanks
[21:04] <reisio> _JuJuBee: what I would do is assess if any of that information is even that personal, because it doesn't really sound like it is
[21:04] <jalcine> reisio: your here too
[21:04] <reisio> then I'd report to the authorities the institution you gave the information to
[21:04] <reisio> then I'd sit back and sip a cocktail
[21:04] <_JuJuBee> LOL
[21:05] <_JuJuBee> I brew my own beer... just sayin...
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> while they sip theirs on your money lol
[21:05] <reisio> if you were really bored, you could totally screw with the person trying to shake you down with information that isn't even personal
[21:05] <PDilyard> this is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right
[21:05] <reisio> you can't magically steal someone's money with their bank account number, driver's license, or social security number
[21:05] <PDilyard> graphics card problem?
[21:05] <TheSov> hello all i just updated ubuntu and now i cant get a gui, something about nvidia drivers mismatch
[21:05] <[Gentoo]> reisio: i know i was joking
[21:05] <reisio> and even if you could, you don't need to infiltrate someone's OS to get that information
[21:06] <reisio> [Gentoo]: jokes are better if they follow :p
[21:06] <TheSov> i remember i had to do something with dkms last time does anyone know what to do?
[21:06] <[Gentoo]> TheSov: tried the latest nvidia drivers?
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> TheSov how did you install the driver in the first place?
[21:07] <TheSov> yeah, my error message is nvidia kernel mod is 319.32 but driver component is 304.88
[21:07] <TheSov> from the restricted drivers gui
[21:09] <roscogruen> what is terminal command to get md5sum off usb stick?  i don't know how to determine or change directories.
[21:09] <TheSov> i reinstalled 304 but there was a dkms command i neede
[21:09] <reisio> roscogruen: of what?
[21:09] <TheSov> anyone know it?
[21:09] <chimeracoder> roscogruen: df will tell you where it's mounted
[21:09] <roscogruen> want to check md5sum of a new usb install stick
[21:09] <chimeracoder> oh
[21:10] <roscogruen> ok.  it gives info but this is all greek to me
[21:10] <[Gentoo]> the command md5sum might be useful
[21:11] <roscogruen> i tried that.  terminal doesn't reply with anything. not even a prompt
[21:11] <zykotick9> roscogruen: i've never heard of someone checking the md5 of a USB before?!?  you "might" try md5sum'ing the device, or mount point... but i'm not sure either will work?  good luck.
[21:12] <chimeracoder> I'm still getting wifi problems connecting to my university's wifi - it got better after I disabled ipv6, but the problem still happens
[21:12] <irgautvol> cheers, i'll try again later - same PAM problem?? /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log DEBUG: Session: Failed during authentication
[21:12] <chimeracoder> actually, it's not problems connecting (that usually works) - it's that I get disconnected, and can't reconnect without restarting
[21:12] <roscogruen> zykotick9:  the mdsum checked out before i put it on the stick.  should it be good then?
[21:12] <derptatsic> Hello, I need help with grub bootloader. It is booting into grub rescue. Here is my grub.conf file http://pastebin.com/YSmQS0d7 any help would be appreciated.
[21:12] <chimeracoder> jhutchins_wk: ^ if you're there - your suggestion helps, but I still get reason=2 disconnects
[21:13] <zykotick9> roscogruen: i'd assume so, or on boot isn't there a "verify this media" option?
[21:13] <roscogruen> isn't md5sum just a set of numbers.  like a long serial number?
[21:13] <mfilipe> hey! I wanna install kde but the bare minimum install. which meta-package do I have to choose?
[21:13] <zykotick9> roscogruen: it's called a hash
[21:13] <roscogruen> never seen that in boot.  but maybe.
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> derptastic: this is #ubuntu support not RHEL support
[21:14] <roscogruen> if the iso was goodbefore i burned it to the stick, should it now be good?
[21:14] <derptatsic> register
[21:14] <derptatsic> oops
[21:14] <tag> Is there a way to make unity not take over my keyboard?
[21:15] <zykotick9> roscogruen: what "should be" and "what is" are not always the same ;)  but yes, assuming your ISO was correct, and your where successful in transfereing it to the USB...
[21:15] <killer> ubuntu registration service says to submit "your application" and "yur application source" ,  what it means by your application
[21:15] <chad_c> I have a dumb question about symlinks, or what I think are symlinks.  I've uninstalled a tool that was installed using easy_install, but the symlink for the utility still exists.
[21:16] <roscogruen> ok.  thank you zykotick9
[21:16] <chad_c> I've checked my bash profiles, but I do not see the link in there anywhere
[21:16] <chimeracoder> I can turn power management off with 'iwconfig wlan0 power off', but that won't persist the next time wlan0 is brought up. Is there a way to turn power management off permanently?
[21:16] <Pici> killer: What is "ubuntu registration service"?
[21:16] <TheSov> can someone please help me, i installed updates and it trashed my nvidia drivers, when i startx it says that my kernel module is 319.32 but my driver components are 304.88
[21:17] <killer> Pici: I mean ubuntu website
[21:17] <zykotick9> TheSov: did you install the nvidia driver manually from nvidia.com?
[21:17] <Pici> killer: Can you provide a link as to what exactly you are referring to?
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> killer: maybe ask in #ubuntu-website
[21:19] <TheSov> no no i just want to go back to the 304 driver i had
[21:20] <Pici> killer: are you talking about creating a new project on launchpad?
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> theSov: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[21:21] <killer> Pici: http://tinypic.com/r/2qnvzub/5
[21:21] <PDilyard> this is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right
[21:21] <PDilyard> this is a minor issue, but when i shut down, the screen that says "Ubuntu" is messed up... it flashes another "Ubuntu" made up of a bunch of lines off to the right
[21:21] <keyna> ive installed webalizer just over apt and its running, but it doesnt generate webpage...any ideas?
[21:21] <TheSov> nevermind i fixed it, i just had to type apt-get install nvidia-304 --reinstall
[21:21] <PDilyard> oops sorry for double post
[21:22] <Pici> killer: Likely the source code for your application, if you choose to distribute it.  I suspect that #ubuntu-app-devel might be able to provide more information.
[21:22] <chimeracoder> hm
[21:22] <killer> Pici: Nope , It is a proprietary app , that I intent to submit to software center
[21:22] <chimeracoder> how can I find out the maximum Tx-Powe my card will support?
[21:22] <chimeracoder> * Tx-Power
[21:22] <Pici> killer: It says its optional to provide that, so you don't need to include it.
[21:24] <docdriza> does anyone happen to know how to send Ubuntu system logs to a SIEM?
[21:32] <xuorx_> hello all, i have a problem with ubuntu 13.10, i can set backlight with touch FN + left right. Acer aspire V5 Intel HD 3000 + Nvidia 620M
[21:32] <killer> Can I simply submit source and let ubuntu package it for me(proprietary license) ,I read it somewhere
[21:33] <yannacko> xuorx when you make your install press F10 and select driver
[21:34] <xuorx_> i have already install ubuntu 13.10
[21:36] <kostkon> killer, ask in #ubuntu-app-devel, this channel is for general support
[21:37] <xuorx_> nothing can help me ?
[21:37] <kostkon> !patience | xuorx_
[21:38] <lukodiablo> hi guis... why my aircrack-ng doesnt collect any ivs or packet injection?
[21:38] <iwo> hey, does anyone know what might be wrong with my system (13.10)? all my status bar icons have reset to old, awful looking ones, my title bar is now an old-fashioned gray...
[21:38] <iwo> my terminal text is invisible, only the prompt shows
[21:39] <iwo> basically my whole UI has just suddenly degenerated to completely broken
[21:39] <adamk> iwo: Sounds like your video drivers are broken.  Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[21:39] <yeshh> :)
[21:39] <reisio> lukodiablo: 'cause you're using it wrong
[21:40] <adamk> xuorx_: You haven't really said what your problem is.
[21:40] <lukodiablo> iwo:  look in the setting
[21:40] <iwo> lukodiablo: which setting?
[21:41] <xuorx_> i can't set backlight when i press FN + Down or up
[21:41] <lukodiablo> reisio: i dont know... in ubuntu its work good... but in bt i dont see the line with
[21:41] <iwo> adamk: http://pastebin.com/F31rLKWJ
[21:41] <jhutchins_wk> xuorx_: That's because it's not a standard keycode.
[21:42] <iwo> adamk: am i in some kind of failsafe UI mode?
[21:42] <xuorx_> i have a acer aspire v5
[21:42] <xuorx_> on ubuntu 13.04 no problem
[21:42] <adamk> iwo: That was my guess, but your video drivers appear to be fine so far.
[21:43] <adamk> iwo: Certainly nothing jumps out at me in the log file.
[21:43] <iwo> i've tried deleting all my compiz and dconf settings, still no difference
[21:43] <adamk> iwo: Pastebin the output of 'glxinfo'
[21:45] <bratner> hi all! i'm trying to run tombraider aniversery in wine(ubuntu 12.04) and when it starts the icon bar on the left stays and the mouse pointer in the game is pulled to the left. Anyway i can make proper full screen?
[21:45] <iwo> adamk: http://pastebin.com/Kjayjndh
[21:46] <marko-_-> hello i am using ubuntu 13.04 and am just wondering if there's a GUI to add programs to start up?
[21:46] <adamk> iwo: Alright, my guess was wrong.  Your drivers are working just fine.
[21:46] <adamk> Hopefully someone else has an idea.
[21:47] <iwo> adamk: ah, i think i may have removed some essential component...
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> marko-_-: open the dash and type: startup applications
[21:47] <iwo> i tried to remove mono using apt-get remove mono-*
[21:47] <iwo> and i think this may have removed an essential package... maybe
[21:47] <marko-_-> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[21:48] <kostkon> marko-_-, click on the gear icon in the corner, then "start up applications..."
[21:48] <iwo> adamk: time to reboot to see if i'm right :)
[21:48] <lukodiablo> reisio: i see the bssid.. station.. PWR .. rate.. lost.. frame .. probe... but where are the packets???? i dont see them, i've try upbgrade the aircrack-ng but in output i get its latest version
[21:49] <KillBiebs> Question, I am running 13.10 with triple monitors and Chrome. When I click and drag a tab to open up a new window on the right monitor it always defaults to the left one. Any idea how to set it to open up on whatever monitor I drag it too?
[21:49] <jhutchins_wk> KillBiebs: Dunno, you're the first person I've seen who got three monitors working on 13.10!
[21:49] <KillBiebs> hah, I had no problems getting three monitors working :) That was easy. I am just having difficulty getting default programs to open up on what monitor, etc
[21:50] <lukodiablo> the aircrack in ubuntu 13.04 fork almost fine...
[21:50] <kostkon> KillBiebs, is the issue specific only to chrome
[21:50] <KillBiebs> hrm, let me check firefox...
[21:50] <iwo> adamk: yes, apt-get remove mono-* is not a good way to uninstall mono :)
[21:50] <iwo> looks like that was the problem
[21:51] <iwo> TIL unity cannot function without parts of mono :(
[21:51] <KillBiebs> Ah, yes it is with Chrome only :) I didn't even think to try another browser. Should have done that first. Thanks for the suggestion
[21:51] <kostkon> iwo, ?
[21:51] <msassak> does anyone know how to automatically accept oracle's license when installing the JDK from webupd8team's PPA?
[21:51] <iwo> kostkon: ?
[21:51] <kostkon> iwo, mono isn't installed by deafult in ubuntu anymore
[21:52] <iwo> ah, i think i managed to uninstall the Ubuntu Mono icon theme xD
[21:52] <lmat> I use cairo-dock and would like to install the cpu-freq indicator. It goes on the bar at the top with the time, right ?
[21:52] <kostkon> iwo, oh we are talking about the icon theme ok...
[21:53] <xangua> msassak: automatically accept a licence agreement withoud 'reading it' doesn't sounds good
[21:53] <lorundrik> lmat, correct
[21:53] <iwo> and probably other parts of the UI that are 'Mono' the theme, not mono the .Net framework
[21:53] <lmat> I have that bar and it looks like (from DDG), I'm supposed to right-click and add the indicator
[21:53] <lmat> But when I right click the bar, nothing happens :(
[21:53] <lmat> Is there another way to install indicators ?
[21:53] <lmat> (I sudo apt-get install indicator-cpufreq  already)
[21:53] <Semajnad> What's the best way to have a user chrooted to a directory, so they can upload files etc, but have an executable in the directory above that still runnable by a user?
[21:53] <iwo> kostkon: in trying to uninstall the .net library, i accidentally destroyed unity
[21:53] <msassak> xangua thanks--i've read it, but now i want to automate it :-)
[21:53] <kostkon> iwo, ah
[21:53] <lorundrik> lmat, try reboot.
[21:53] <kostkon> iwo, hmm
[21:54] <lmat> lorundrik: um... how about service lightdm restart ?
[21:54] <lmat> lorundrik: So after a reboot, you're hoping that right click will result in the desired action ?
[21:54] <lmat> lorundrik: (I have much too much programs open now that I need to keep open, so I'll reboot later)
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> lmat: try running it from the console: indicator-cpufreq &
[21:56] <Semajnad> What's the best way to have a user chrooted to a directory, so they can upload files etc, but have an executable in the directory above that still runnable by a user?
[21:56] <lmat> hitsujiTMO: yeah, that failed.   Warning **: Could not connect: Connection refused.
[21:56] <KillBiebs> I found a patch for my triple monitor issue that I believe I need to apply using diff. I have never done this soooo wish me luck.  Thanks for your help
[21:56] <lmat> I then did dbus-launch indicator-cpufreq &
[21:56] <lmat> And no errors, but no indicator, either.
[21:56] <lmat> KillBiebs: you use patch to apply patches :)
[21:56] <lmat> KillBiebs: use diff to create patches.
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> lmat: is it compatable with cairo?
[21:57] <KillBiebs> oh hah, so patch command? :)
[21:57] <lmat> hitsujiTMO: I don't know. I assume so since the bar with the time is up there ...
[21:57] <KillBiebs> Shows how long this will take lol
[21:57] <lmat> KillBiebs: yeah   patch -p<path level to ignore> < patchfile.patch
[21:57] <little_shira> morning
[21:57] <lmat> KillBiebs: You're not alone :)
[21:57] <little_shira> can anyone tell me the package for the mate display manager, please?^^
[21:57] <lmat> hitsujiTMO: I see the wireless network indicator, time, keyboard indicator, etc...
[21:58] <KillBiebs> so if the patch is in trunk/src/ui/gfx/screen_gtk.cc would I just do patch -p trunk/src/ui/gfx/screen_gtk.cc gtk.patch?
[21:58] <lmat> little_shira: apt-cache search mate     ?
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> lmat: fair enough, looks like a restart would have to do then
[21:58] <lmat> hitsujiTMO: :(  Will it start up automatically, or will I need to run it ?
[21:59] <little_shira> got it... i am so unfocused today <.< thank you
[22:00] <stianz> windows disk shows up as SFS-file system cant seem to mount them with "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda etc". Any tips ?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> stianz: /dev/sda is a drive. you want to mount the partition on that drive
[22:01] <techlord> Hello I have just installed 12.04 on a laptop and run updates but the next reboot I am getting error e: malformed line 56 in source list /ect/apt/sources.list and when I open the file it is blank. Any ideas
[22:02] <stianz> hitsujiTMO: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt/Windows1 like that
[22:03] <techlord> Or how can I fix the error
[22:03] <k1l> techlord: where do you get which error? (please put it into a nopaste)
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> stianz: effectively, but you need to know what node is the windows partition
[22:04] <stianz> hitsujiTMO: I think its some kind of windows dynamic volume format, that i have to convert to ntfs first
[22:05] <techlord> I get the error as soon as I start the PC with a red circle in the system line and updates will not run and I get the error line when I run sudo apt-get update from trminal
[22:05] <techlord> Sorry dont understand the please put in into a nopaste?
[22:05] <k1l> !paste | techlord
[22:06] <buu> Is there a way to force a cpu fan to spin up from the desktop level?
[22:07] <IsmAvatar> hold down the control key :-p
[22:07] <IsmAvatar> (points if you get the reference)
[22:07] <techlord> Well it is not this PC I am geting them on
[22:07] <buu> IsmAvatar: I don't =[
[22:07] <techlord> Ok I will try and get them on there
[22:08] <IsmAvatar> buu: http://xkcd.com/1172/
[22:08] <IsmAvatar> spacebar, not control key
[22:08] <calwig> Hi
[22:08] <buu> Cute
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> buu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed   but you really should not be playing with the cpufan
[22:09] <calwig> what is that app that allows you to to do a benchmark on the HDD?
[22:09] <techlord> paste.ubuntu.com/6361365
[22:09] <buu> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, its a brand new system and so far the fan hasn't spun up that I can tell, just want to make sure it works
[22:09] <compdoc> calwig, Disk Util does
[22:09] <techlord> is the paste of the terminal lines from the PC with issues
[22:09] <krabador> i need to know where watch the log
[22:10] <calwig> compdoc, name?
[22:11] <k1l> techlord: can you paste a "cat /etc/apt/sourceslist"?
[22:12] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:12] <techlord> Let me get that
[22:12] <k1l> techlord: o sorry, missed the "." in the filename
[22:12] <Jordan_U> buu: Running "yes > /dev/null" Should peg (one core of) your CPU, causing it to heat up and the fan to run.
[22:13] <techlord> here is the screen shot of the error imagebin.org/275793
[22:13] <buu> Jordan_U: There's a thought =]
[22:14] <kostkon> techlord, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin its contents
[22:14] <tag> Is there a way to keep the unity plugin from interfering with super?
[22:14] <techlord> It says there is no such directory
[22:14] <techlord> lostkon it is blank
[22:14] <k1l> techlord: yes, there seems to be a problem in that textfile, which is used as config file for updates.
[22:14] <techlord> there is nothing to post
[22:14] <kostkon> techlord, try again, the cmd is:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:14] <k1l> techlord: please again: do a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:15] <fr0ggie> So... I bought this webcam. It's got LEDs around the outside, lsusb says its: 0461:4d22  -- [260179.651379] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB2.0 Camera (1871:0101)
[22:15] <techlord> blank
[22:15] <techlord> nothing at all.
[22:15] <fr0ggie> I want the LEDs on and also, its supposedly more than 1MP, but 640x480 is max res cheese shows. Hmm?
[22:15] <k1l> techlord: if that brings no output please do a "ls -al /etc/apt/"
[22:16] <kostkon> techlord, it's case sensitive, make sure caps lock is off etc
[22:16] <fr0ggie> the chinese folks that sold me it claimed 12mp and its definitely a sharp picture for 640x480 lol
[22:16] <techlord> the last command you asked says no such directory again
[22:16] <kostkon> fr0ggie, 12mp with software interpolation maybe?
[22:16] <techlord> I have checks and redone several time
[22:17] <k1l> techlord: please put that all into a pastebin again
[22:17] <kostkon> fr0ggie, actually is at most 1mp?
[22:17] <techlord> I can post the terminal in the pastebin if you like to check :)
[22:17] <techlord> Will do
[22:18] <parker____> hi
[22:18] <radiokills_> radiokills
[22:18] <fr0ggie> kostkon: Dunno but its decent enough pic. My main issue is the lights. I'll hack on the rest
[22:18] <techlord> paste.ubuntu.com/6361406 is the link
[22:18] <fr0ggie> kostkon: I want to use this to see if people come near my computer :P
[22:18] <kostkon> fr0ggie, that;s another storry yeah
[22:19] <fr0ggie> Nothing interesting in uvcdynctrl -c
[22:19] <k1l> techlord: mind the typo in the cat command. "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:20] <kostkon> techlord, not "ect", "etc" and not "atp", but "apt"
[22:20] <kostkon> techlord, typos
[22:20] <fr0ggie> PS they work in windows :P
[22:21] <fr0ggie> tested it on some poor sod's laptop
[22:21] <techlord> Sorry got this time, paste.ubuntu.com/6361429/
[22:22] <jhutchins_wk> fr0ggie: At least it's recognized as a camera.  cheeze is probably not the most versitile program to explore it with, you can probably find some stuff by tracking down whatever the current version of v4l is.
[22:23] <techlord> And I have the other file now
[22:23] <jhutchins_wk> fr0ggie: You can also track down the USB ID for the chipset and see what other people have done with it.
[22:23] <k1l> techlord: ok i see the problem
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: lines 56 + 57 should not be there
[22:24] <techlord> Not at all?
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: not at all, did you add them in?
[22:24] <techlord> No
[22:24] <k1l> techlord: see the line 56 and 57. there is a "precise" missing between the canonical.com and the partner
[22:24] <mikesplain>  /msg nickserv identify street911
[22:24] <techlord> I jsut installed OS and then tryed to install skype
[22:24] <k1l> mikesplain: change the password :/
[22:24] <mikesplain> close
[22:25] <IsmAvatar> facepalm
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> k1l: the repos are present on 50+51
[22:25] <techlord> Sorry to sound like a idiot how can I add the line count on the editor?
[22:25] <k1l> hitsujiTMO: right, just did a look at the error lines
[22:25] <k1l> techlord: see the paste you gave us :)
[22:26] <wafflejock> techlord: depends on the editor, usually shows line number in a status bar at the bottom if not showing line numbers
[22:26] <techlord> Yes I am looking at the gedit as well as the paste :)
[22:26] <kostkon> techlord, because i am not sure about the state of gksudo, give in the terminal:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, scroll down and delete those lines, then press CTRL+X and then 'Y'.
[22:26] <techlord> I am using the default for ubuntu
[22:26] <cyberhack> hey people can tell me something?
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: sudo sed -i 's/deb http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:26] <k1l> techlord: see kostkons advice. it will remove the lines
[22:27] <cyberhack> ??
[22:27] <cyberhack> ?
[22:27] <wafflejock> techlord: using kubuntu here don't have gedit to check, not sure if it has the option but I imagine it might, geany definitely does, and I mostly use sublime for development stuff which also definitely does
[22:27] <s5fs> I'm running stock 12.04, can anyone recommend a simple, drop-in tiling wm? i mostly work in terminals and want them to auto-layout, basically.
[22:27] <k1l> !details | cyberhack
[22:27] <cyberhack> i have 1 problem
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: also: sudo sed -i 's/deb-src http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:28] <cyberhack> i have the problem with virtual machine and wmware
[22:28] <techlord> Ok I am running you line from above for the sudo nano
[22:28] <k1l> wafflejock: gedit can do this too. but i think we should focus on the problem first and then go for the bonus :)
[22:28] <cyberhack> i try to open wheezy but not open
[22:28] <wafflejock> k1l: I get distracted easily :D
[22:28] <Dresk|Laptop> Hey, I'm Googling this as well, I'm getting some old threads, but what's the proper way to do an Ubuntu update, say from 13.04 to 13.10?  The best thread I've found so far is from 2009, advising apt-get install update-manager-core and do-release-upgrade
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> Dresk|Laptop: yup still the same
[22:29] <OerHeks> Dresk|Laptop, 'sudo do-release-upgrade"  will do
[22:29] <k1l> Dresk|Laptop: you can run that from gui. or in terminal with do-release-upgrade
[22:30] <Dresk|Laptop> hitsujiTMO / OerHeks / k1l : Thanks guys, trying it out now
[22:30] <k1l> Dresk|Laptop: "update-manager" is the gui version
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> Dresk|Laptop: well actually the propper way is to backup, then sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> Dresk|Laptop: DANGER WILL ROBINSON!  MAKE A BACKUP FIRST!
[22:30] <Dresk|Laptop> Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:30] <kostkon> techlord, after you finish, give: sudo apt-get update and see if you'll get any error messages
[22:31] <sam113101> my wallpaper is gone
[22:31] <sam113101> and I can't change it
[22:31] <sam113101> I don't get any menu when I right click on the background, either
[22:32] <sam113101> help is required
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: have you looked into .xsession-errors for any error reports?
[22:32] <techlord> I tried to run the command line sudo sed -i 's/deb http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list but it still giving error
[22:33] <filipe_> my compiz special effects don t work why ?  I already installed compiz- config, i installed synaptic and compiz extra effects , i reebot , but i selected cube and other effects but it dont work . what iam missing . iam uing 13.10 ?
[22:33] <filipe_> !
[22:33] <arpad2> when can the kernel version be updated next time?
[22:33] <k1l> sam113101: see .xsession-errors in /home. but i suggest you should set nautilus to handle the desktop
[22:33] <techlord> There is no way to scroll the chat room up is there?
[22:33] <sam113101> k1l: how do I do that
[22:34] <sam113101> I installed pcmanfm and that's what broke it
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: also run: sudo sed -i 's/deb-src http:\/\/archive.canonical.com\/ partner//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:34] <sam113101> at least I think
[22:34] <k1l> arpad2: 13.10 will stay in 3.11 the next new kernel version comes with the next release
[22:34] <sam113101> http://pastie.org/8455650
[22:34] <UrielVigilant> 	my compiz special effects don t work why ? I already installed compiz- config, i installed synaptic and compiz extra effects , i reebot , but i selected cube and other effects but it dont work . what iam missing . iam uing 13.10 ?
[22:34] <techlord> That was the line I run
[22:34] <lmat> I forgot who helped me on this, but a restart did make the cpufreq indicator show up :)
[22:35] <techlord> as I posted right above your last post
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: is the background just black?
[22:35] <techlord>  all togetherthe lines on the gedit and what do I need to change there or do I jsut delete the lines  and
[22:36] <techlord> the lines on the gedit and what do I need to change there or do I jusdelete the lines  and  all together
[22:36] <Hawkeye0914> I have a GTX 550ti and a GTX 8800 using 4 monitors. But I am having trouble getting two of the monitors to work. Could someone help me out?
[22:36] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: yep
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> techlord: there s a slight difference in the second command i posted. it seens to be run aswell
 thank you
[22:36] <msbrown> UrielVigilant: perhaps you could reset Unity/compiz to defaults, then try again one piece at at time?
[22:36] <techlord> of ok
[22:36] <sam113101> just black (  .____.)
[22:37] <techlord> oh ok
[22:37] <lmat> logout
[22:37] <lmat> doh..
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: you've nothing drawing the background. install something to draw it or reinstall nautilus
[22:37] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I already have nautilus
  if Optimus is supported in 3.12, does it mean Nvidia drivers will be installed automatically?
[22:37] <simoneb_> does anybody know which is the channel for linux mint?
[22:37] <sam113101> how do I force it to draw the wallpaper?
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: reinstall it
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[22:38] <lvl1rogue> hello, I'm having difficulty with gnome-terminal (and, in fact any terminal program). When I start one up I'm presented with only a "$" as the prompt and I do not have tab completion, so everytime I start a terminal I have to run "bash" to get the normal directory prompt and tab completion.
[22:38] <UrielVigilant> msbrown:  how to do that ?=
[22:38] <techlord> you are the man
[22:38] <techlord> I got the updates running again now
[22:39] <techlord> I want to thank you very much
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | simoneb_
[22:39] <sam113101> be right bac
[22:39] <k1l> arpad2: there will be no default 3.12 in 13.10
[22:40] <msbrown> UrielVigilant: well, I was just testing out the things I wanted to have you do -- but they don't work on 13.10.
[22:40] <k1l> techlord: be more aware if you change something at files where you need root/sudo priveleges.
[22:40] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: didn't fix it
[22:40] <msbrown> UrielVigilant: give me a seco
[22:40] <techlord> See that is what I dont know how it got changed
[22:41] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: you may not have bash set as the shell for your user
[22:41] <wafflejock> getent passwd $LOGNAME | cut -d: -f7
[22:41] <wafflejock> ^ check the current shell for your user
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> lvl1rogue: sounds like you've changed your default shell.
[22:41] <techlord> the only thing I did after the install and first update was try and add repository from the terminal and it errored so that must have been the issue time
[22:41] <arpad2> mouse not working in one user profile, I don't know how to solve this
[22:42] <Serus> Hi
[22:42] <ZeThomas> hello; i have installed the latest nvidia-drivers, but i can't seem to get them working, in the sense that they don't get loaded. can someone help me?
[22:42] <Serus> Does ubuntu support out of the box EFI?
[22:42] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: http://nixcraft.com/showthread.php/822-How-to-change-the-login-shell-for-Linux-user <- to change your shell if necessary
[22:42] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock:  getent passwd depersio | cut -d: -f7 returns "/bin/sh". how do i go about changing that?
[22:42] <techlord> But I do see my issue now thank you for your time
[22:43] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock:  thanks, ill checkout the link
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> serus: yes
[22:43] <Serus> I have been struggling for literally a day straigh with getting different distros to install with EFI
[22:43] <Serus> but no success on all the other distros
[22:44] <OerHeks> !uefi | Serus
[22:44] <Serus> hitsujiTMO: cool, maybe there is a linux future for this laptop aferall
[22:45] <Obscene_CNN> My machine slows down when I type this performance script someone gave me in a shell ":(){ :|:& };:" I have a video of the result http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[22:45] <msbrown> UrielVigilant: I'm at a loss & having to go to google, not going to be much help here
[22:45] <bekks> !danger | Obscene_CNN
[22:45] <techlord> Does anyone know how I can scroll up in the chat room?
[22:46] <techlord> I am using XChat
[22:46] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, using "chsh" tells me "user '$username' does not exist in /etc/passwd". my account is stored remotely on a university network
[22:46] <bekks> Obscene_CNN: That command is known as a fork bomb intended to crash your computer. DO NOT RUN IT.
[22:46] <Obscene_CNN> so that is why it slows down?
[22:46] <sam113101> how do I set nautilus to handle the wallpaper?
[22:46] <bekks> Obscene_CNN: Correct.
[22:46] <msbrown> bekks: I think he knows, & is trolling
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Obscene_CNN: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb
[22:47] <Obscene_CNN> someone fooled me  :(
[22:47] <Serus> hitsujiTMO: should I delete the old grub install from the EFI partition?
[22:47] <msbrown> UrielVigilant: this is basically what I was going to get you to do... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[22:48] <Obscene_CNN> I better remove it from my start up script
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: if its not needed anymore you can delete it safely with efibootmgr
[22:48] <Jordan_U> Obscene_CNN: Don't run random commands that you don't understand. Always try to understand what the command is doing before you run it, and if you can't do that at least get confirmation from multiple people (who you are reasonably sure aren't colluting) that it's a safe command.
[22:48] <Serus> Also other distros tried to acces MBR on the HDD so the tests are not accurate
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Serus: This channel only supports Ubuntu.
[22:50] <myndzi> anybody got a link to some kind of upstart boilerplate for wrapping a binary?
[22:50] <rhagu> hi I run a small ubuntu server and found this with smartctl: http://pastebin.com/FFGKDgFc the status is PASSED what should I make of this?
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> myndzi: read through http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  there's a few examples there
[22:50] <k1l> techlord: just use the scroll-whell of the mouse? or move the slider up?
[22:50] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: so you aren't an administrator on the computer storing the user accounts? if not think you can modify your ~/.login or ~/.profile to use bash http://www.unixguide.net/unix/bash/A7.shtml
[22:51] <techlord> Wow I should have caught on to that :)
[22:51] <Serus> Jordan_U: I know, but I was stating stuff other distros did, so the tests hitsujiTMO linked might not be accurate.
[22:52] <myndzi> i'm on that page, but it's rather all-encompassing in scope
[22:52] <compdoc> rhagu, not the smart data I use to make sense of it. try: smartctl -a /dev/xxx
[22:53] <myndzi> what am i looking for to just create 'service x start/stop/restart' commands?
[22:53] <rhagu> compdoc http://pastebin.com/u6BBeA2H
[22:54] <s5fs> Can anyone recommend a simple, drop-in tiling window manager?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> myndzi: have a look in /etc/init/ for some other examples
[22:54] <TheLordOfTime> Is there a way to specifically tell update manager in 12.04 to ignore updating on a specific repository?  I've got Opera's repositories in the system, but they're returning "Connection Refused" and it's throwing off the updates data...
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> s5fs: dwm
[22:55] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: comment that sources out
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> TheLordOfTime: remove the opera repos
[22:55] <compdoc> rhagu, looks fine:  Reallocated_Sector_Ct, G-Sense_Error_Rate, Reallocated_Event_Count, Current_Pending_Sector , and Offline_Uncorrectable  are all zero
[22:55] <s5fs> hitsujiTMO: okay i'll give it a look
[22:55] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: PPAs repos should be deactivated while upgrading anyway
[22:55] <msbrown> TheLordOfTime: the software updater gui has settings for that
[22:55] <TheLordOfTime> k1l: wasn't talking about upgrading...
[22:55] <Serus> hitsujiTMO: Can I make the bootable USB with universal usb installer?
[22:55] <deper29> s5fs: I like awesome
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> rhagu: That only shows two errors.  Probably nothing to worry about, but it does not that you've never run a test.
[22:55] <TheLordOfTime> k1l: was talking about updates, not upgrading.
[22:56] <TheLordOfTime> k1l: there's a distinction between the two words..
[22:56] <compdoc> Power_On_Hours is only 81 hrs
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> rhagu: THe main thing about smart is to keep an eye on your logs, and if you start seeing errors there start shopping.
[22:56] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: ok, sorry. the see apt-pinning or set that package on hld
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: others have had trouble with it. unetbootin tends to be good overall
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> rhagu: If the errors start getting worse, BUY NOW!
[22:56] <s5fs> deper29: i'm looking for something that requires the lowest investment of effort to get up and running
[22:56] <rhagu> compdoc I am just curious where these two come frome especially because their timestamp is 0hours
[22:57] <Jordan_U> s5fs: Why do you want a tiling window manager?
[22:57] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: if that still causes error, because its checking that repos you need to disable that.
[22:57] <deper29> s5fs: I see. I've never used dwm myself, so I can't speak for it. Of the window managers I've used most of them seem to require some configuration
[22:57] <Serus> hitsujiTMO: Ok, 12.04 or 3.10?
[22:58] <rhagu> jhutchins_wk I will have a look at them, it is not too serious right now, because they are in a raidz2 setup, but what do you mean with "but it does not that you've never run a test"?
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> s5fs: This should remind us that the timestamp is just another series of binary digits.
[22:58] <krabador> i need to know where i can look logs for wireless disconnections
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> rhagu: You've never used one of the self-tests available in smartctl.
[22:58] <s5fs> Jordan_U: i work mostly in terminals and am sick of laying them out by hand
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> rhagu: You don't have any scheduled tests (probably not necessary).  There are no stored results.
[22:58] <zykotick9> deper29: i believe awaesome is based off of dwm (but i think most tiling wms are...)
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> serus: 12.04 if you want absolute stability. 13.10 if you want the latest of everything possible.
[22:59] <rhagu> jhutchins_wk what is the difference between running a self test and looking at the results of smartctl -all ?
[22:59] <s5fs> Jordan_U: i use four virtual desktops in a 2x2 grid, each with 2-4 terminals, that sort of thing.
[22:59] <k1l> s5fs: take a look at awesome
[22:59] <deper29> zykotick9: is it?I thought it was based off openbox or something
[22:59] <deper29> not that it matters. I really like awesome
[23:00] <s5fs> I'll give awesome and dwm a look, thanks everyone!
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> s5fs: dwm and awesome are both good for keyboard only setups.    however i recently switched to openbox (not a tiling window manager) as the configs in it allow for far superior keyboard shourcuts and tools
[23:02] <krabador> i've wifi disconnection, many times , how can i look logs?
[23:02] <krabador> ubuntu 13.10
[23:03] <moondog> hitsujiTMO: so if you run openbox on ubuntu... what is your initial install like... you just do a regular install and ignore unity?
[23:04] <moondog> or is there some sort of minimal install media?
[23:04] <deper29> !minimal | moondog
[23:04] <moondog> thank you :)
[23:04] <deper29> you bet
[23:04] <gimpygoo> How are you all doing today ?
[23:05] <moondog> so that's the thing if you don't want to use a pre-selected DE than?
[23:05] <moondog> then....
[23:05] <wafflejock> moondog: if you want ubuntu/debian base yes
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> moondog: debootstrap install
[23:06] <wafflejock> moondog: lots of people go archlinux if they want to start very raw I believe
[23:06] <gimpygoo>  Anyone have a suggestion for a different window manager other then the one that ships with regular ubuntu ?
[23:06] <TheLordOfTime> k1l: yeah i'll disable the repo for now, check back in a couple weeks or smth
[23:06] <gimpygoo> One that would be a good learning experience to install as well.
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> moondog: can also be done with ubuntu server as a base
[23:07] <k1l> TheLordOfTime: check the opera community if there were changes or other news
[23:07] <deper29> gimpygoo: I recommend awesome
[23:07] <deper29> it is awesome
[23:07] <TheLordOfTime> i might
[23:07] <gimpygoo> deper29, I hope so :)
[23:07] <gimpygoo> with a name like that :)
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> gimpygoo: what are your requirements?
[23:08] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: help me ;_;
[23:08] <gimpygoo> hitsujiTMO, I would like one that would be a bit easier on my older equipment...
[23:08] <niee> Hi folks :)) Any one to help me pls? I have a problem to my Google Chrome browser after try to play Video Clip in youtube (ubuntu 11.04). The sound is "stuttering". Any ideas how to fix this problem?
[23:09] <gimpygoo> This comp is not handling compiz horribly... but I think that it could be doing better.
[23:09] <gimpygoo> with what Ive heard about linux running better on older hardware I am a bit underwhelmed to be honest.
[23:09] <gimpygoo> It is majorly slow sometimes.
[23:09] <deper29> gimpygoo: tbh, it depends on the distro but I find it depends a lot on the desktop manager.
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> gimpygoo: xfce is a good start. just install xubuntu. or lxde if you need something lighter (lubuntu). after that you want to start looking at something lighter again, openbox or fluxbox
[23:10] <gimpygoo> Now, that could be me ( prob is) but Im trying to optimize the system. My lack of experience on linux def plays a part I would think .
[23:10] <deper29> If you're trying to run the latest ubuntu with unity and everything on old hardware: don't
[23:10] <gimpygoo> im on 12.04 .
[23:10] <gimpygoo> So not THE latest.
[23:10] <deper29> and what hitsujiTMO said. Try something like xfce or lxde
[23:11] <gimpygoo> xfce , lxde... Could you extrapolate the differences quickly ? Or is that better something I read about ?
[23:11] <deper29> gimpygoo: better yet, try them out
[23:11] <gimpygoo> oh , ok.
[23:11] <deper29> I think they are very user friendly
[23:11] <gimpygoo> Is it an easy process switching them out ?
[23:11] <ZeThomas> gimpygoo, some lighter distros are, in order of lightness: crunchbang, lubuntu, xubuntu
[23:11] <deper29> yeah
[23:12] <gimpygoo> Ive never tried a different windows system .
[23:12] <deper29> I don't know the command off hand, but I imagine it's sudo apt-get install lxde or something
[23:12] <gimpygoo> oh ok .
[23:12] <gimpygoo> thanks .
[23:12] <gimpygoo> Once again, you guys rock in this channel. .. So damn helpful it makes m e sick to my stomach :)
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> xfce is heavier than lxde, but still a lot lighter than unity/gnome. lxde is missing a bit from being a total DE. best way to install either is to install from their official distros : xubuntu or lubuntu
[23:14] <deper29> hitsujiTMO: it shouldn't make a difference installing from repos or installing their distro should it?
[23:14] <Rory> deper29: the "lubuntu-desktop" package includes a lot more than just lxde
[23:14] <deper29> that's fair
[23:14] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, I've tried the link you gave for changing the login shell but none of the methods work. Does this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1932504) seem like a reasonable method to get my default shell to be bash?
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> deper29: you'll have a small bit of an extra bloat installing from repos (background services that may not be needed, heavier login manager)
[23:15] <deper29> I guess. but you can disable the background services too
[23:15] <deper29> mind you, I don't expect that from a beginner
[23:15] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: may work not sure if there are any caveats to setting up a symbolic link for the shell
[23:16] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: did you log out an in after the .profile changes and .login changes
[23:16] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: if not you wouldn't have seen any effect
[23:16] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, yes and no. I do not have a .login file in my home directory.
[23:16] <UrielVigilant> its a good idea install ubuntu restricted extras on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[23:17] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, I do have a .k5login if that helps?
[23:17] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, I think that points to the authentication server
[23:17] <Jordan_U> lvl1rogue: If this is really the university's default I would talk to the sysadmin, as it's silly.
[23:17] <Rory> UrielVigilant: It's a good idea if you need it. It isn't a *bad* idea and won't break things
[23:17] <cpined> hello I have a flash issue...a while back I lost the ability to watch youtube videos after upgrading my OS...the solution was to insall Nvidia drivers and that worked, although I don't have a Nvidia driver I have an Integrated driver from Intel.  I modified the xorg.conf( I think that is what it is called) and now it behaves like it used to.  The video appears small and with pink,blue tints.  How can I get it to work properly w
[23:17] <cpined> ith my real card?
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> lvl1rogue: usermod -s /bin/bash useraccount
[23:17] <cpined> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[23:18] <Rory> cpined: What version of Ubuntu are you using, and what web browser?
[23:18] <cpined> that is my card
[23:18] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: account is apparently on university computer system so he can't just change the shell. tried chsh already
[23:18] <cpined> Kubuntu 13.10...chrome or firefox
[23:19] <KillBiebs> Question, I have been trying to apply a patch to Chrome for the first time ever (never patched before) and keep getting an error message that it cannot find file to patch at input line 3. I am typing sudo patch -p162 screen_gtk.patch. Here's the patch file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361661/ Any suggestions? :)
[23:19] <wafflejock> lvl1rogue: yeah don't think the .k5login will help, as Jordan_U said this might be something to contact the university tech department about and see what the reasoning is and if they can offer an "official" solution for you
[23:19] <Rory> cpined: Can you try installing the package "flashplugin-installer"
[23:19] <cpined> sudo apt-get install ?
[23:20] <lvl1rogue> wafflejock, hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help... I'll ask the system admins
[23:20] <cpined> rory:flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[23:21] <UrielVigilant> Rory: but when i try to install restrited extras on ubuntu 13.10 it says i must remove first libavutil51 and libavcodec53
[23:22] <UrielVigilant> Rory: this is a bad thing ?
[23:22] <Rory> UrielVigilant: How did you install those packages? Are you using any third-party repositories (PPAs)?
[23:22] <deper29> See you later, everyone.
[23:22] <wafflejock> later deper29
[23:23] <UrielVigilant> Rory iam using playonlinux, epson scan and driver
[23:23] <jharley> hey, I have a box that just elected to start renaming a network interface from 'p2p2' to 'rename5'.. I can't find the udev rule doing this 'move', but it shows up in /var/log/udev.  Help?
[23:23] <jharley> ( there is nothing in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules )
[23:24] <Rory> UrielVigilant: Can you please run the command : "sudo apt-get install -s ubuntu-restricted-extras" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com then put the resulting URL in this channel
[23:24] <Rory> !pm | niee
[23:25] <cpined> Rory:is there anything else I can do?
[23:25] <niee> ok
[23:25] <niee> Hi folks :)) Any one to help me pls? I have a problem to my Google Chrome browser after try to play Video Clip in youtube (ubuntu 11.04). The sound is "stuttering". Any ideas how to fix this problem?
[23:25] <pouet78> Hello I created a schroot with "mk-sbuild --arch armel" it works well by running qemu automatically. Now I have a rootfs already built and would like to work the same way
[23:25] <Rory> cpined: Can you go to the page "about:plugins" in Firefox and scroll down to "Shockwave Flash" - What is the value next to "Path:"
[23:26] <pouet78> how schroot knows it needs to run qemu?
[23:26] <jhutchins> niee: Try different videos, try different browsers.
[23:26] <UrielVigilant> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361697/
[23:26] <nemo> So this guy was installing linux for first time.  Wubi.  He ran jockey-gtk to see if by any chance there were any recommended drivers for his graphics card.
[23:26] <nemo> It recommended a wifi driver, so he installed it.  it installed bcmwl-kernel-source:amd64
[23:27] <nemo> Aaaand, completely messed up his wifi
[23:27] <nemo> he uninstalled it, but wifi is still messed up
[23:27] <nemo> any ideas on what I might suggest to try and fix?
[23:27] <niee> jhutchins: in different browser i dont have a problem, but i want to use google chrome.
[23:27] <Rory> UrielVigilant: It looks like it's OK to remove those packages; they are just differently named in a different repository
[23:28] <nemo> niee: google chrome's just a waste of memory :)
[23:28] <cpined> Rory:/usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[23:28] <UrielVigilant> nemo: but it startup faster then mozzila
[23:28] <nemo> UrielVigilant: eh. I hardly ever start up my browser, so haven't noticed.
[23:28] <nemo> UrielVigilant: besides fact once it is in mem, doesn't matter much
[23:29] <wafflejock> +1 chrome/chromium-browser I just like the debugging tools better
[23:29]  * nemo can't be bothered to check those speeds
[23:29] <niee> nemo: good :)
[23:29] <nemo> wafflejock: firebug ?
[23:29] <nemo> ok. sorry for browser war thing. *shuts up*
[23:29] <UrielVigilant> Rory so i will remove it, then i will install restrited
[23:29] <nemo> well. still interested in suggestions on the broadcom screwup jockey-gtk instigated
[23:29] <nemo> puzzled why removing the package did not fix things
[23:29] <Rory> UrielVigilant: Insyall restricted, and let it remove the packages
[23:30] <UrielVigilant> on terminal or software center it will do it anyay ?
[23:30] <Rory> niee: Try reading here http://askubuntu.com/questions/157082/how-do-i-configure-chrome-to-use-the-system-installed-flash-instead-of-the-bundl to see if disabling Chrome's built-in flash, and using the system-installed flash fixes the issue
[23:30] <wafflejock> nemo: I do AngularJS stuff Batarang and other AngularJS extension stuff in Chrome makes it much easier
[23:30] <niee> ok tnx Rory
[23:30] <wafflejock> nemo: don't get me wrong before Chrome I was all about Firebug, it's still nice
[23:30] <Rory> UrielVigilant: I'd recommend the terminal: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" - however, you could just install the parts from that package that you actually need - what are you trying to achieve overall?
[23:31] <nemo> wafflejock: ah. have never used AngularJS
[23:32] <niee> Rory: some time sount play good, but some time is "stuttering". problem is not evry time.
[23:32] <XLV> !extras
[23:32] <XLV> !repo
[23:32] <nemo> wafflejock: there's an angularjs firebug addon, but unfamiliar w/ it.
[23:33] <UrielVigilant> Rory: i did it on terminal. I just want have sure, things will work when i am browsing or playing or working or listen music or dvd in future ..
[23:33] <wafflejock> nemo: still getting my feet wet but it's been awesome so far, ramping up on grunt/karma stuff right now for making my builds cleaner and getting some testing going for the client side code... will check that out, with Angular things can get mysterious so the more probing tools the better
[23:33] <nemo> wafflejock: glanced on AMO before typing :)
[23:34] <Rory> UrielVigilant: To install everything from ubuntu-restricted-extras *except* those two problematic packages, you can run: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 liboil0.3 libopenjpeg2 ttf-mscorefonts-installer ubuntu-restricted-addons update-notifier-common
[23:35] <UrielVigilant> Rory: i can do it now , after i already installed in terminal ?
[23:36] <UrielVigilant> Rory: or should i remove the package first , then sudo apt-get update and then that command you sugested ?
[23:37] <cpined> Rory:was that path correct?
[23:38] <Rory> UrielVigilant: If you do the long command I most recently said, you won't have to remove anything because there will be no conflicts
[23:40] <UrielVigilant> ROry: i did it, and i get this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6361757/
[23:43] <Rory> UrielVigilant: Then you already have it installed, and don't need to do anything at all. There are no errors there :) (I don't speak Portugese but I do speak apt)
[23:44] <UrielVigilant> Rory:  thank your for all ! ;o)
[23:44] <Rory> You're welcome UrielVigilant
[23:45] <gr33n7007h> Will any generic joypad work in linux?
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> gr33n7007h, Do you have one, or are looking for one?
[23:47] <gr33n7007h> wilee-nilee, Looking for one which will knowingly work
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> gr33n7007h, Ah, I would suspect some do. some don't, would be my guess, generally at least on amazon you can find ones that list the IS that will work.
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> OS*
[23:48] <jhutchins> gr33n7007h: Most of them are made by or imitate synaptic.  You might get some offbeat one that didn't work.
[23:48] <Anden> i've got a keypad (separate numpad) that connects over serial, how can i set it up to work? i've tried inputattach -ps2ser /dev/ttyUSB0 but that didn't work
[23:49] <gr33n7007h> wilee-nilee, Will have a look on amazon see what I find
[23:49] <Rory> gr33n7007h: I'd recommend shopping around for one as normal, and then quickly searching the Internet to see if it works
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> gr33n7007h, I buy just about everything on amazon if I need it good return policies.
[23:49] <Rory> gr33n7007h: A lack of a large number of results is probably a *good* thing in this case, since it means people didn't have problems to post about :P
[23:50] <Fruckiwacki> Does Ubuntu require /etc/crypttab when using lvm on luks?
[23:50] <gr33n7007h> wilee-nilee, Good to know cheers
[23:50] <fk_007> is there anyway to stop video0 from being used, i just ran motion web cam software and it was working fine but i don't know how to stop it so i hit ctrl+z to stop but webcam is still on and video0 is in use
[23:50] <gr33n7007h> Rory, Yeah will have search online then check with google
[23:51] <gndlp> Fruckiwacki: no idea :-/
[23:51] <fk_007> so i'm not really looking for how to use motion or anything but in general is there a way to "reset" video0 without restarting the pc
[23:54] <gndlp> Fruckiwacki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3
[23:54] <joossee> man i hate to be  dick but canonical needs to pull its head out of its ass as far as hardwaregoes
[23:54] <gndlp> Fruckiwacki: According to that I think you must use luks
[23:55] <Fruckiwacki> yeah.. i was just confused because on Archlinux its enough to supply cryptdevice= as boot parameter
[23:55] <Fruckiwacki> on Ubuntu it /etc/crypttab seems to be read by initramfs
[23:55] <Fruckiwacki> -it
[23:55] <gndlp> yeah archlinux is a beast
[23:56] <gndlp> that is what i understand
[23:56] <Fruckiwacki> Archlinux simply asks for password on boot, Ubuntu doesnt, it just says it cannot find /dev/mapper/x, initramfs has dm-crypt as module loaded. /etc/crypttab is the only thing i havent set yet
[23:57] <Fruckiwacki> will try that next
[23:57] <gndlp> I am not sure every reference in that doc is dead
[23:57] <wolfy1339> how do i run a lua script in elevated permissions?
[23:58] <gndlp> wolfy1339: what is launching the lua script?
[23:58] <dorian> what's our favourite ipsec package for ubuntu? or is that like a coke/pepsi question?
[23:58] <wolfy1339> i'm launching it in console
[23:58] <joossee> Fruckiwacki, you are getting an eror moun ting encrypted volumes preloging?
[23:59] <joossee> wolfy1339, sudo doesnt work?
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> dorian, not support more like. ;)
[23:59] <wolfy1339> i tried sudo
[23:59] <gndlp> wolfy1339: what happend
[23:59] <wolfy1339> command not found
[23:59] <joossee> your in dos it lookslike
[23:59] <joossee> lol
[23:59] <dorian> wilee-nilee: hmm?