| valorie | apachelogger: I fooled it into thinking it was a final release | 00:20 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | valorie: nothing is ever final, who's final? | 00:21 |
| valorie | ScottK, I think it was, gave me an entry to put in my accept.hosts file | 00:21 |
| apachelogger | actually maybe it'd be final, but then it'd be dead, so probably not final considering there's a relase | 00:21 |
| valorie | now I've removed it, so I can't recall what it was exactly | 00:21 |
| ScottK | jr set up a fake metarelease file that valorie pointed at to simulate saucy having been released. | 00:22 |
| valorie | looked exactly like it's always looked when I waited for a notification rather than loading up the beta or whatever | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | ah, distro upgrade | 00:23 |
| * apachelogger almost had segfault there | 00:23 | |
| apachelogger | it's just a silly issue | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | chances are .1 fixes it though | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | or at least makes it less likely | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | that is if my guess at the cause is actually right | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | and if it's not that it would most likely be a bug in metarelease, which would be odd but at least out of our realm of responsiblity | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | -> bed | 00:25 |
| valorie | ok, final wasn't the right term, sorry | 00:26 |
| valorie | sweet dreams of unicorns | 00:26 |
| ahoneybun | on jury duty | 00:27 |
| ahoneybun | *oh | 00:27 |
| ahoneybun | hey valorie | 00:27 |
| valorie | oooo, they let you use your phone? | 00:27 |
| valorie | that's cool | 00:27 |
| valorie | I haven't done jury duty for years | 00:27 |
| valorie | and yet some get called every 6 months or so | 00:27 |
| valorie | wierd system we have | 00:28 |
| ahoneybun | no I'm home now | 00:33 |
| ahoneybun | but I got picked out of like 40 | 00:34 |
| ahoneybun | there are 8 of us in total | 00:34 |
| valorie | yes, it's odd how huge the pool is, and then how few are chosen | 00:35 |
| valorie | I was on a jury of 8 as well | 00:35 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 00:37 |
| ahoneybun | hey lordievader | 02:03 |
| manchicken | !seen jontheechidna | 02:07 |
| ubottu | I have no seen command | 02:07 |
| manchicken | Anybody seen Jon T? | 02:08 |
| ScottK | Not for awhile. | 02:21 |
| ahoneybun | hey Riddell | 02:54 |
| ahoneybun | hey valorie I got a answer back about ubuntuguide | 02:54 |
| valorie | cool | 02:54 |
| valorie | I was just now reading through it | 02:54 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 02:55 |
| valorie | what did s/he say? | 02:55 |
| ahoneybun | I got 2 emails from different people dealing with it | 02:55 |
| ahoneybun | one is a long and the other not so much | 02:55 |
| valorie | anything of significance? | 02:56 |
| ahoneybun | trying to put it in a pastie | 02:56 |
| ahoneybun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6362426/ | 02:57 |
| ahoneybun | but the short one says we should combine our effects | 02:58 |
| valorie | from two different people? | 02:58 |
| valorie | your pasted person sounds a bit grumpy | 02:58 |
| ahoneybun | yea I think one forwarded the other the email | 03:01 |
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| valorie | huh | 03:03 |
| ahoneybun | he is the main person in charge of the wiki | 03:03 |
| valorie | kde bnc was kicking up a fuss | 03:03 |
| ahoneybun | I emailed someone and then they forwarded it to the main man | 03:04 |
| valorie | ok | 03:05 |
| valorie | anyway, I think we should offer to join forces | 03:05 |
| valorie | because I like their system | 03:06 |
| valorie | and having grumpy people doing side projects sounds like a bad idea anyway | 03:06 |
| valorie | too much grumpiness already | 03:06 |
| ahoneybun | valorie, well he says he is doing maintenance of the site not really writing on it | 03:07 |
| valorie | somebody is doing the writing..... | 03:07 |
| ahoneybun | does it have the translation we need? | 03:09 |
| ahoneybun | so we want to host the docs there? | 03:11 |
| valorie | I don't see any translations for it | 03:11 |
| valorie | however, they could install the translation system that the KDE wiki uses | 03:12 |
| ahoneybun | oh | 03:12 |
| valorie | so I think it would be good to do a nice discussion with them | 03:13 |
| valorie | they may not know about the translation tool | 03:13 |
| ahoneybun | ok I sent a email about it | 03:14 |
| valorie | cool, please CC me on that stuff | 03:14 |
| valorie | so I can enter into the conversation | 03:14 |
| valorie | sec | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | oh the next email I'll add you into it | 03:15 |
| ahoneybun | sorry | 03:15 |
| valorie | np; I just thought of it | 03:22 |
| valorie | gonna watch the news for a bit; bbl | 03:22 |
| ahoneybun | ok | 03:23 |
| soee | good morning | 07:03 |
| Quintasan | \o | 07:07 |
| soee | o/ | 07:08 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:25 |
| menace | how can i change the status of a bug? i added the crash handler text as requested in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327130 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327130 in desktop "crash after clicking on "add widget" after clicking on "activity manager" in the taskbar-widget" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | menace: you cannot, that's up to a dev/triager | 10:47 |
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| === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback | ||
| yossarianuk | hi - a work colleague's machine is having an issue downloading the nvidia package (only) - he tried using additional drivers to install 319.60 | 14:16 |
| yossarianuk | it just stayed @ 0 % | 14:16 |
| yossarianuk | cancelled that, did apt-get clean - apt-get update - then tried to download with apt-get -d install nvidia-319-updates | 14:17 |
| yossarianuk | it just keeps downloading the package - over and over (and over, etc) forever | 14:17 |
| yossarianuk | its only nvidia packages this is occurring on - other packages download/install fine. | 14:18 |
| yossarianuk | any ideas why | 14:18 |
| Riddell | yossarianuk: I don't know I'm afraid, support in #kubuntu | 14:18 |
| yossarianuk | ok - i did ask there but didn;t get a solution... | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | yossarianuk: -d = download | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | as in: download-only | 14:22 |
| yossarianuk | apachelogger: sorry i should have said I was using the -d option. | 14:23 |
| yossarianuk | it gets to 100% and restarts | 14:23 |
| yossarianuk | only for nvidia packages | 14:23 |
| yossarianuk | and only for the driver packages, not the settings package | 14:24 |
| yossarianuk | which is odd | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | try another mirror then | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | kdesudo software-properties-kde | 14:24 |
| yossarianuk | ok - will do | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | it may well be that the download fails/aborts/corrupts and that's why it tries to download again | 14:24 |
| yossarianuk | I'll copy over my sources.list | 14:24 |
| yossarianuk | thanks | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: could you test muon from the 2.1 branch? | 14:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: some fixes are done? | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 14:30 |
| Riddell | lovely | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | and could you reproduce kde bug 327125 | 14:31 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327125 in updater "muon-updater never finishes updating packages" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327125 | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | because I can, but it should be fixed | 14:31 |
| Riddell | I'll try | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | so maybe its just my system being weird | 14:31 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: umm well first thing is muon-updater has the banner saying "A new version of Kubuntu is available." which isn't true | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | I don't have that here | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | omgomogmgomg | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: paste .cache/upstart/startkde.log | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | maybe because of http://pastebin.kde.org/pugpuag13 | 14:54 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 14:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: sometimes it also gives a python traveback on startup http://pastebin.kde.org/pdpqmrwh4 | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: and try python3 /usr/share/kde4/apps/muon-notifier/releasechecker; echo $? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: snap | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | that traceback is normal | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | metarelease seems overly shitty | 14:54 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: releasechecker gives me that traceback and $? is 1 | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | :@ | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | sillest issue in the world | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, startkde.log plz | 14:57 |
| * apachelogger ponders enabling debug on releasechecker | 14:57 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw kde bug 326178 seems like a issue in s-p-k | 14:57 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 326178 in discover "No feedback provided when retrieving updated sources after sources change" [Major,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326178 | 14:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/startkde.log if you really want it | 14:58 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: no | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: discover invokes spk with the flag that makes it not update the cache | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | but discover itself does not update the cache | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | so no one updates the cache | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | except that I think that s-p-k ignores that flag | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: it's very fortunate that I removed the related debug ysterday xD | 15:05 |
| apachelogger | ok, log doesn't help | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: can you reproduce the distro version thing across restarts of muon? | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | easy enough to tesT? | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: ^ | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | I cannot | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | I am on trusty | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | and trust doesnt have spk? | 15:08 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it sometimes has that new disto notice and sometimes gives the python traceback | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | that's better than what I get | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | lemme fix you up a new relesechecker real quick | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: all I get is the traceback and no new release | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | actually | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | because I am on the latest release maybe? | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: export DEBUG_UPDATE_MANAGER=1 | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: then try to trigger the bogus notification and paste the CLI output | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: for spk? what? | 15:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: for muon checking release | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | I am talking about spk with you and about relesechecking with Riddell :P | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | see, I am supposed to get confused, not you :P | 15:11 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365144/ | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: oh and please open ksysguard and filter for muon ... check that there is only ever one python3 running | 15:16 |
| * apachelogger needs to fix his name resolution | 15:16 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: looks like only one python3 is run, tried it three times | 15:17 |
| * genii kicks repeatedly and viciously at his Muon | 15:17 | |
| apachelogger | what if it is not the script that causes the race condition but metarelease itself | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | hmmmmmmmmmmm | 15:18 |
| apachelogger | or what if it used to be a script race and I turned it into a thread race yesterday | 15:19 |
| Riddell | you are making muon threaded? | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365183/ | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | no, metareleas is threaded | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | in the worst possible way | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | __init__ starts download in a thread | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | but there is no way to tell when that thread/download is done through inter-locking because metarelease is no qobject or has callbacks or anything | 15:24 |
| apachelogger | so if you call download while the threaded download is running it will most certainly have reentrancy problems because download most likely writes to members (most certainly bool downloading) | 15:25 |
| apachelogger | all of the above is why sane code would not flipping thread a function call through __init__ | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | but how oftne do I get to deal with sane code :( | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | interestingly enough aptdaemon-packagekit compat thing also manually calls download() so it supposedly has the same problem | 15:26 |
| apachelogger | anyway | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please try that new releasechecker see if it also exhibits the problem | 15:28 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: on the pastebin? | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 15:29 |
| Riddell | ok, am also following frameworks meeting, will be slow | 15:30 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365229/ | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: still reproting bogus availability? | 15:36 |
| * apachelogger needs to figure out how ubuntu checks for releases | 15:36 | |
| Riddell | the same way isn't it? | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | well, but what calls it | 15:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: release upgrade banner does not show yay | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | the only reference I found was the packagekit compat and I am not sure that is used | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: best try for the next hour or so :P | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | so I think it can be a file race, but I turned it into a thread race yesterday, which made it more reliably reproducible | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | # this is needed because gtk is not thread-safe | 15:51 |
| apachelogger | haha | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | so this is really how they are using it | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | basically a 1 second timer calling a function to check if the other thread is done yet | 15:52 |
| * apachelogger has headache now | 15:52 | |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: stop banging your head on the desk then | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | butbutbut | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: git pull | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | should be fixed again | 16:08 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: muon? | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | yes | 16:09 |
| apachelogger | alas, you can still get a race however it's extremely unlikely and not very trivial to prevent | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: + # MetaReleaseCore internally runs .download() in a thraed. It has however no | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | thraed | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | ... | 16:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: hmm I'm having it hang on Loading Software List http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/muon.png | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | same as me then | 16:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: plz comment on https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327125 | 16:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327125 in updater "muon-updater never finishes updating packages" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: can you try deleting a PPA from muon-discover -> Sources | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | because it crashes for me here | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | I can also not disable PPA's in discover by unchecking the tickbox next to them | 16:23 |
| shadeslayer | see KDE bug 327178 | 16:24 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327178 in discover "Cannot disable extra PPA's under "Sources tab"" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327178 | 16:24 |
| * Riddell tries | 16:28 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes I get a crash on deleteing one | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yep, that's another one | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | haven't reported a bug for that one | 16:30 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: is there a bug or shall I report one? | 16:30 |
| Riddell | ok I'll do it | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | http://pastebin.kde.org/poatgfnaf#line-84 | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | go ahead | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | hummm | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | works for me now | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | okay nope | 16:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: kde bug 327179 | 16:33 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 327179 in discover "Crash when deleteing a PPA from muon-discover sources" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327179 | 16:33 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: plz install dbg symbols? | 16:34 |
| Riddell | ah hmm, it's self compiled | 16:35 |
| Riddell | hmm crash seems to be in qt | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | more like libqapt? | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | #6 0x00007f298713ceaf in debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo(pkgCache::PkgFileIterator&, FileFd&, std::string) () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-pkg.so.4.12 | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | for me | 16:42 |
| Riddell | nothing about qapt in my backtrade, maybe you should add yours to the bug report | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | will do once I compile qapt with dbg symbols | 16:47 |
| === cmagina_ is now known as cmagina | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: I have a fix for the crash-on-removing-ppa's | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://pastebin.kde.org/pczpi1lkq | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | ideally I'd disable the add source button till the user is done adding everything, or, only reload the list once the user is done adding everything | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: Riddell what's the policy on LGPL libs linking against openSSL? | 18:50 |
| soee | ee does the muon updater works ? | 19:00 |
| soee | looks like ... not | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | soee: still fixing things | 19:24 |
| shadeslayer | 2.1 branch has alot of fixes | 19:24 |
| soee | shadeslayer, ok :) for me its not a problem :) i can do updates from muon or terminal -.- | 19:25 |
| soee | just clicked now updater when i saw it | 19:25 |
| soee | thers no 4.11.3 release info yet ? | 20:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: LGPL is fine with SSL I'm pretty sure | 20:37 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | d_ed is/was moaning about how the qcal ssl plugin is split from qca2 | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | on the ktp mailing list | 20:43 |
| shadeslayer | and I was curious as to why it's split into its own plugin when according to him it was inside qca2 at one point | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | anyway, dinner | 20:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so GPL code can us eit | 20:44 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: so GPL code can use it | 20:44 |
| Riddell | Qt was GPL until recently | 20:44 |
| Riddell | many applications are GPL | 20:44 |
| shadeslayer | ack | 21:16 |
| === taiji_ is now known as bwolfe | ||
| mamarley | debfx: I just posted an updated Upstart script for Quassel. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/+bug/1244036 | 22:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1244036 in quassel (Ubuntu) "Quasselcore should use an Upstart script instead of a sysv initscript" [Undecided,In progress] | 22:15 |
| mamarley | It uses start-stop-daemon now, so it should solve the problem you were having. | 22:15 |
| mamarley | Also, I had to hardcode the path to quasselcore, otherwise start-stop-daemon wouldn't find it. | 22:15 |
| mamarley | Sorry for the delay; I have been quite busy with school. | 22:15 |
| mamarley | ScottK: You might be interested in this too^ | 22:25 |
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