=== m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === tvoss|dinner is now known as tvoss [07:18] Hello, world!\n === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [09:05] morning! [09:20] Morning Laney ! [09:23] is anyone else having problems with trusty + pulseaudio ~today? [09:24] Mirv: let me upgrade to the todays version and I'll give you a sign [09:25] good morning desktopers [09:25] hey [09:25] hey sil2100 Mirv didrocks Laney [09:25] seb128: hi! Not sure if you saw, but I released libdbusmenu yesterday and it's in unapproved now [09:25] salut seb128! [09:25] Hi everyone! [09:26] sil2100, I noticed, thanks! [09:26] hey seb128 [09:27] hallo [09:54] Who changed indicator-datetime so that the calendar remembers where one left it off instead of reseting to today's month when one clicks on it? [09:55] There's no "Go to today" button either. [09:59] jpds, nobody, it's a bug not a wanted change [09:59] charles knowns about it [10:53] didrocks: are you ready for some packaging ACKs? ;) [10:54] sil2100: more than ready! [10:54] Laney, can dmz-cursor-theme be synced? [10:55] Didn't we change the alternate priority? [10:55] (yes) [10:55] Ignore that merge [10:55] Laney, you changed it in debian as well, but you lowered there when you bumped on our side, so I'm unsure (I've been too lazy to check why those are differentà [10:55] We use a different cursor theme to them [10:55] didrocks: actually, those changes are made by pitti, so I guess they're 'ACKed by core-dev' already, but anyway some additional eyeballs won't hurt: [10:55] remember the bug where it changed last cycle? [10:55] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-phone-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_dialer-app_0.1+14.04.20131104.1-0ubuntu1.diff [10:55] sil2100: yeah ;) [10:55] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-phone-head-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_messaging-app_0.1+14.04.20131104-0ubuntu1.diff [10:56] https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html ← I added a comment there last week or so, ignore that merge [10:56] Laney, yeah, that rings a bell, I'm unsure about the details (not really interested either, I'm just going through the red lines on versions ...;-) [10:56] sil2100: if they are made by pitti, you have your implicit +1 ;) [10:56] Laney, ok [10:56] ;p [10:56] will pick up versions / my merges in a minute after doing some MPs [10:57] ok [10:57] sil2100: once published, think about pinging upstream :) [10:57] didrocks, sil2100: mostly testing changes, so not *that* urgent to upload, but +1 on the packaging changes from me (although I shouldn't count here :) ) [10:57] didrocks: of course! [10:57] but I'm really happy that these tests landed at last [10:57] pitti: ;) [10:58] happyaron, hey, do you plan to merge the new ibus from Debian now that the t-cycle started? [10:58] happyaron, they have .4 and we are still on .3 [11:00] seb128: I plan to merge it soon, I'm triaging existing bugs since yesterday. [11:01] happyaron, ok, great, thanks === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:17] Laney, do you have an opinion on updating webkit? the s-c issue that was flagged as blocker seems like it's not specific to the new version (it's already ranking high on e.u.c) [12:18] seb128: I've got it on my list to test stuff against the new one [12:18] seems reasonable to do [12:18] is that bug forwarded? [12:18] Laney, I just noticed I still had the candidate build installed from since before saucy [12:19] Laney, yes, I did it last week [12:19] nice, can't be that bad then [12:19] @candidate build: didn't notice any issue during this time [12:19] seb128: Error: "candidate" is not a valid command. [12:19] yeah, seems alright [12:19] Laney, do you want to handle it or should I? [12:20] do you want a test round in the desktop ppa before upload or should we just go with it? [12:20] I can do [12:20] thanks [12:20] will do a test build in canonical-arm-dev at least [12:20] good idea [12:20] not sure about the aarch64 patch [12:20] but we'll see [12:20] it built on arm for debian so it's probably ok, but still good to test [12:21] oh that looks super simple [12:22] seb128: can you link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1163886 to the upstream bug? [12:22] Launchpad bug 1163886 in webkit (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 with WebKit 2.0+" [Critical,Confirmed] [12:23] Laney, oh, I used https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1211887 [12:23] Launchpad bug 1211887 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 in _XReadEvents()" [High,Confirmed] [12:23] Laney, not sure if we should dup, that might lead to lp timeouts [12:23] mmm [12:23] let's link both [12:23] Laney, the one I used is the one e.u.c is listing [12:24] Laney, yeah, that might be easier [12:25] Laney, E'No commit message was specified in the merge proposal.' ;-) [12:26] bah [12:26] done [12:26] Laney, thanks ;-) [12:27] Laney, what is "full country"? [12:27] like "United States" instead of "US" [12:28] hum [12:28] ideally that would be translated [12:28] I've no strong opinion on either, as long as the extra verbose isn't putting the string off screen [12:29] mmm [12:29] * seb128 get the new lib to test [12:29] It seemed alright on desktop but I'm not sure about the geometry [12:29] well, it's easy enough to change during the cycle if it turns out to be an issue [12:29] Like, some stuff does overflow but they are still usable AFAICT [12:30] could maybe do something smarter there [12:30] fall back to the shorter one or something [12:30] well, let's first see if that's an issue in practice [12:31] ya [12:31] but I somewhat wish the toolkit would be doing something smart about listitems where the label doesn't fit in the entry [12:31] like scroll when you press the entry and keep your finger on it === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:34] Laney, seb128: Hi [12:34] hey [12:35] hey [12:35] how's it going? [12:35] yeh good, just got back from a big long weekend of riding [12:35] nice [12:35] you people and your bikes ;-) [12:35] * Laney got some new climbing shoes yesterday [12:36] seb128, bikes are good! [12:36] * darkxst needs to actually go climbing again sometime! been MTB'ing too much [12:36] yeah, I guess they are ... I just find it boring biking for days ;-) [12:36] seb128, have you ever been Mountain Biking? [12:36] no [12:36] just road biking mostly [12:37] its a whole different sport ;) [12:38] Laney, did you try build gjs on debian ppc? [12:38] A bit, then I got stuck in build system blah [12:38] because I had to build mozjs and something else [12:38] then make configure use the local ones [12:39] then it failed to link because of some symbol issue [12:39] and then my plane got called :P [12:39] I see [12:39] will try again soon [12:40] I though I saw an email re mozjs 17 landing in debian over the weekend? [12:40] maybe so [12:40] this was friday [12:40] there was gobject-introspection too [12:40] which is also now in experimental! [12:41] those guys :-) [12:41] Laney, I marked your tz change needsfixing, let me know what you think [12:41] k [12:42] so rank by city, state, country? [12:42] I think that should be easy [12:42] that would be my preference [12:42] well, at least "new york" should list new york city at the top of the list [12:42] not in the middle of the lists of that state === slomo_ is now known as slomo [12:43] Laney, I'm not even sure if we want to include the state in the search? [12:44] well, the alternative is to only list it if the city is a duplicate [12:44] well, having it on the UI is fine [12:44] oh I see what you mean [12:44] that would be possible [12:44] but can we have the filter to only act on the city and country strings? [12:45] that would avoid having "new york" in the entry leading to list all the cities in the state [12:49] Laney, are you able to get a backtrace of the gjs ppc failure? 90% sure it will be a seg fault [12:49] ^test failure [12:49] yeah, give me a minute [12:53] seb128: try that [12:53] not sure if it'll be confusing that the search acts on different text to what's displayed [12:54] also it probably doesn't sort exactly how you want, could fix that by reimplementing sorting somehow [12:54] Laney, our GNOME ui does "City (State, Country)" and only matches on the City [12:54] Laney, but I guess that's a question for mpt [12:54] one way would be to use the population [12:54] which we have [12:54] isn't indicator-datetime doing that? [12:55] dunno [12:58] Laney, ok, that version works fine for me, let's get that in ... we can always adapt later with feedback from design/users if needed [12:58] cool, thanks [12:59] would be nice to get a release of u-s-s at some point [12:59] are dailies ever going to be re-enabled? [13:01] not sure how the workflow is going to change and when [13:01] the plan is to use bugs for tracking features landing and make easier to land bug fixes again, but not sure how we get there [13:02] mmm [13:02] sil2100, Mirv, didrocks: what do we need to do if we want an ubuntu-system-settings landing? use the gdoc to ask for landing still? [13:02] seb128: for now, yeah [13:02] didrocks, ok, thanks [13:02] thanks to you :) [13:03] ;-) [13:03] Laney, I'm going to do that today [13:03] cool, thanks [13:03] need to test trunk on the device first though [13:03] pleaseeee ;) [13:04] seb128: we'll just fast-track it, if it's in the daily-build ppa, you can publish it yourself [13:04] (just mention it in the spreadsheet so that we can know what's in) [13:07] didrocks, great, thank you [13:15] darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364570/ [13:16] installed tests faiiiiiiiillllllllllll [13:17] actually I bet I ran it wrong === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:21] seb128: hey, so I get a reliable crash in unity-panel-service, but when I click 'Send an error report to help fix this problem' is checked and I click 'Continue', it seems to upload it, but I don't have a way to report the bug in lp. am I missing something? [13:21] seb128: this is on trusty btw [13:21] jdstrand, we turn apport off before release, you are reporting to whoopsie [13:22] /etc/default/apport has enabled=1 [13:22] jdstrand, right, pitti said some other file is to edit nowadays [13:22] Laney, pitti: ^ what file was it again? (that's confusing, why did we change it from using the default config?) [13:22] apport is on [13:22] you just have to tell it /where/ to report to [13:23] comment out problem_types in /etc/apport/crashdb.conf [13:23] that's the confusing bit ;-) [13:23] I thought we were supposed to be fixing people who want to report their bugs to launchpad [13:23] jdstrand, ^ edit that file (not sure in which way though) [13:23] me either [13:24] why isn't it already edited for trusty? [13:24] because we just started and nobody turned it on [13:24] databases = { [13:24] 'ubuntu': { [13:24] 'problem_types': ['Bug', 'Package'], [13:24] that should be changed to what? [13:24] comment out or delete it [13:24] I'm also wondering if we still benefit from launchpad reporting... looking to bug backlog after saucy, there is lot of noise, and we look mostly at e.u.c [13:26] seb128: are you saying I should not report the bug? [13:26] jdstrand, no, it's fine, you are likely to follow up on questions etc [13:27] jdstrand, but most of the bugs turn out to not be useful, so I'm not sure having it turned on by default makes sense [13:27] Laney, running lt-jsunit directly should be ok [13:27] darkxst: You have to set GJS_USE_UNINSTALLED_FILES [13:27] Laney, seb128, jdstrand: /e/d/apport is now always enabled=1, we edit /etc/apport/crashdb.conf to disable uploading crashes to LP [13:28] jdstrand, btw I suspect your report might turn out to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ido/+bug/1246536 but the stacktrace should tell for sure [13:28] Launchpad bug 1246536 in ido (Ubuntu) "segfault in menu_hidden()" [High,In progress] [13:28] darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364646/ [13:28] how do I make it give more useful output? [13:28] backtrace is not useful [13:28] hmm, maybe it is actually [13:29] darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364651/ [13:29] seb128: it probably is. it is the second time I launch rhythmbox from the sound indicator. then I get unity-panel-ser[4688]: segfault at 5c ip 00007fd78341e1f4 sp 00007fff62272aa0 error 4 in libido3-0.1.so.0.0.0[7fd783411000+21000] [13:29] sil2100, Mirv, cyphermox: can we get current ido trunk published to trusty? (we already have a SRU to saucy) ... that's not impacting touch since ido is desktop specific, so it should be safe [13:30] * Laney shrugs [13:30] jdstrand, yeah, same issue, ^ should fix it [13:30] Laney, that is not helpful ;( [13:30] yeah ... [13:30] sil2100, Mirv, cyphermox: I could pocket copy the SRU but then you guys are going to complain about the changelog not being commited back to your trunk ;-) [13:30] seb128: seems errors.ubuntu.com doesn't have 14.04 yet... [13:31] "oh hey, something failed" [13:31] seb128: let me check the commit and try doing that ;) [13:31] jdstrand, hum, not sure how that's set up, I guess that's a question for ev [13:31] sil2100, thanks [13:32] Laney, installed-tests framework was all new for this version [13:33] can you try run a gjs program against the build (like gnome-documents or gnome-weather or something) [13:33] not really [13:34] seb128: you're correct, thanks for asking us to do the release :) [13:34] sil2100: sou you're handing ido? [13:35] Mirv: yep [13:35] seb128: looking good, as soon as the indicator stack finishes I'll get it released === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:36] Laney, try build with --disable-installed-tests, then run gdb on lt-jsunit again? [13:36] sil2100, thanks [13:39] darkxst: same [13:40] also libtool --mode=execute gdb jsunit is the approved™ way to do that [13:43] same as in it fails of read_all_dir from first trace [13:43] ? [13:43] no, the second pastebin [13:45] although weirdly it does fail in the same way without GJS_USE_UNINSTALLED_FILES=1 (in read_all_dir_sorted) [13:47] that's probably a red herring though [13:47] make check DTRT [13:49] seb128: fyi, I filed a bug, I'll let the retrace handle it, but the fix in your bug seems to fix mine [13:50] * jdstrand will keep an eye on both [13:50] jdstrand, ok, thanks, let me know how it goes [13:50] Laney, huh? make check passes? [13:52] no [13:52] it does the right thing with the installed tests stuff [13:55] darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364646/ had the most information, but that's not very much [13:55] if you know how to make gjs/mozjs show more stuff then let me know [14:04] Laney, will get back to you tomorrow, too tired now ;) [14:05] basically the test runs the simplest js program, and that fails [14:05] so the problem is quite fundamental :-) === Maple__ is now known as Guest7013 [14:06] Laney, yes, I do wonder if its a regression in the new testing framework [14:06] nah [14:06] I get it if I run gjs-console manually on the file [14:06] hmm ok [14:07] wait [14:08] normally there is more info when JS_EvaluateScript fails, but I do run debug builds of mozjs, not sure if that makes a difference [14:08] but really gotta go, will follow up tomorrow ;) [14:12] darkxst, can you upstream your g-s-d suggested fix for that segfault btw? === Guest7013 is now known as Mapley === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [15:12] seb128: the ido thing will have to wait an hour or so if you don't mind, as we had a blocker in our stacks and all will be unblocked only in some nearest time === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [15:12] sil2100, ok, thanks for letting me know === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [15:22] qengho, Sweetshark, mlankhorst, Laney, tkamppeter, desrt, attente, larsu: the meeting is in 10min (just a reminder since the time changed with DST) [15:22] muhahaha, just back from lunch in time [15:22] Laney, start writing your week summary then ;-) [15:22] seb128: weird!! [15:23] hung around with some strange guys in oakland, done [15:23] ? [15:23] desrt, hey, had a good trip back? [15:23] Laney, hehe [15:23] yup [15:23] kenvandine, ! [15:23] took a very-much-needed swap day yesterday [15:23] did laundry all day :) [15:23] desrt, nice, I though you would be swapping today as well [15:23] haha [15:23] desrt, did you get your washing machine back? ;-) [15:23] seb128: meh. i may not be at the peak of my productivity but i have work to do [15:24] i was confused... i thought since the meeting was UTC it would be an hour later for me [15:24] so i'd rather get some of it out of the way [15:24] k [15:24] * kenvandine still has a mild fever :) [15:24] a little fuzzy here :-p [15:24] kenvandine, winter time is one hour closer from UTC [15:24] hey [15:24] e.g for Europe summer time is +2, winter +1 [15:24] yeah, i did change my clock back an hour... but still was thinking it was an hour later [15:24] kenvandine: the meeting is at a fixed point in (UTC) space. your clock moved backwards. therefore your clock has a lower number at the time of the meeting. [15:25] gcal got it right for me [15:25] ie: it's earlier [15:25] desrt, yeah yeah... i know... just confused myself earlier when i read the email [15:25] indicator-datetime too :qualitycode: [15:25] you're still reading mails? [15:25] that's your problem! [15:25] haha [15:25] * desrt just assumes seb will tell him if anything important is about to happen [15:25] hey, friday i was at inbox unread 0! [15:26] seb128: I was wrong about that SIGSYS stack overflow bug being fixed in yesterday's release. I was thinking of another bug when I answered. I put SIGSYS fix in a PPA to get testers, not the security release, but it will be in the next release, which should be end of this week. Cr31 is due then. [15:26] * desrt only has 43 this morning [15:26] first time in ages... [15:26] Mark all as read is a great feature [15:26] that's cheating :) [15:26] qengho, ok, thanks, shame that it didn't make it this one seeing the number of users hiting it:/ [15:30] qengho, Sweetshark, mlankhorst, Laney, tkamppeter, desrt, attente, larsu: hey, it's meeting time! [15:30] I hope everybody travelled back without issue [15:30] lets get started [15:30] qengho, hey [15:30] Hi hi. [15:30] - done: sprint; Cr release 30.0.1599.114. [15:30] - todo: preparing for chromium-browser v31 release. [15:30] - todo: starting work to get multitouch gestures working in chromium-browser. Just acquired APPL (shudder!) touchpad thing to test. [15:30] EOL [15:31] qengho, thanks, good work getting the update one, I'm looking forward the next one with that segfault fix included ;-) [15:31] :( Me too. [15:31] Sweetshark, there or not? (he emailed earlier saying he was fighting ubuflu and might not be there) [15:31] Also, a tab-text disappearing bug. [15:31] Two big ones. [15:32] great [15:32] no Sweetshark I guess [15:32] mlankhorst, hey [15:32] glamor-egl bugfixing, sru'ing some of it back to saucy. Working on converting android syncpoint to get my own code closer to upstream kernel. [15:32] what is glamor-egl? [15:33] it's used to enable radeonsi support [15:33] a xorg ddx driver based on egl [15:33] ok [15:33] mlankhorst, thanks [15:33] Laney, hey [15:34] one sec [15:34] * desrt finishes a 'transaction' [15:34] • Short week; travelling Friday & off Monday but some of this covers the previous week too [15:34] • Take care of a lot of outstanding merges, still a lot to do :( [15:34] • Some desktop updates / sponsoring: [15:34] ∘ Rhythmbox 3.0 [15:34] ‣ Tweak rhythmbox-ubuntuone to work with the py3 peas loader [15:34] ∘ vala 0.22 [15:34] ∘ gmime [15:34] ∘ gjs (fails on ppc; debugging with Tim a little bit) [15:35] ∘ p11-kit [15:35] • Some users/upstream developers pinged me for help with a texlive issue - dig out a patch and SRU it for them. Failed on ppc; sent back to them for a fix. [15:35] • Tracked packages where trusty < saucy and copied as appropriate [15:35] • Help a bit with sponsoring (queue is huge, please give 30 minutes to it if you can) [15:35] • Some u-s-s fixes [15:35] ∘ Parse click package desktop files to get metadata for Storage subpanel [15:35] ∘ Add API to libtimezonemap to get more data for manual timedatescreen (hereafter known as The Springfield Problem) [15:35] • Ping upstream to get gnome-desktop-testing to exit with a bad exit code on failure(!) & upload this [15:35] • g-c-c bugfixing & more g-s-d keygrabber iterations (still needs re-SRUing to 13.10) [15:35] • Sprint: discussions around the LTS desktop & u-s-s testing; should be good [15:35] • TODO: vUDS planning, webkitgtk update, moar merges [15:36] what? that's it? [15:36] * desrt whips Laney to work harder [15:36] Laney, rhythmbox-ubuntuone? isn't that deprecated? [15:36] we didn't have a meeting last week :P [15:36] haha [15:36] I think it does something like auto-import songs you buy? [15:36] larsu: you used this... [15:37] the webview thing is gone [15:37] but there is still certainly something there [15:37] Laney, what's the keygraber stuff you're working on? [15:37] desrt: I used to, yes [15:37] attente: starting it in all sessions, should be fixed in T now [15:37] desrt: stopped after it wasn't supported anymore and crashed rb regularily [15:37] for media keys [15:37] oh right [15:37] shouldn't interfere with your stuff [15:38] attente, it's the patch that makes g-s-d not grab keys under gnome-shell (since they do it there) [15:39] Laney, not sure about autoimport, I though that the sync daemon would sync files and that rb would watch the directory simply, but I didn't look into it [15:39] Laney, thanks [15:39] tkamppeter, hey [15:39] - cups-filters: Released 1.0.41 with framework for PPD-/configuration-less printing on mobile devices. cups-browsed automatically creates queues for IPP printers with known page description languages which advertise thenmselves vis Bonjour. [15:39] - cups: Final 1.7.0 release. [15:39] - cups-filters: Review of contributed patch to improve bannertopdf [15:39] - cups-filters: Investigated whether foomatic-rip can be merged into cups-filters after the GSoC changes [15:39] - cups-filters, ghostscript: Applied contributed bug fixes. [15:39] - Bugs. [15:41] tkamppeter, thanks [15:41] desrt, hey [15:41] hey [15:41] just lots of bugfixing [15:41] mostly gsettings [15:41] wrote a new markup parser for rewriting the glib-compile-schemas to fix a lot of more difficult gsettings bugs [15:42] (end) [15:42] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/trunk/view/head:/ubuntuone/ubuntuone.py [15:43] desrt, thanks [15:43] attente, hey [15:43] seb128, hi [15:44] * played super hexagon [15:44] * eow [15:44] lol [15:44] fixes for gnome-screensaver, i-keyboard, maliit settings [15:44] lol [15:44] writing the unity key grabber right now [15:45] (trying to at least...) [15:45] attente, oh, you are doing the work for the unity guys? didn't they say they would do it? [15:45] for? [15:45] Laney, ? [15:45] [what's that] for? [15:45] * Laney brevity [15:45] Laney, my understand was that brandon would write the unity side of those changes [15:45] the keygrabber for moving the input-source switching into the unity shell [15:46] understanding [15:46] oh [15:46] oh, that, cool [15:46] Laney, do you ask what that's about? basically doing what gnome-shell is doing [15:46] yeah [15:46] the grabbing in the shell [15:46] then talking to g-s-d via dbus [15:46] I was wondering for which bit of functionality [15:46] same as gnome-shell [15:47] since we have the legacy key grabber, we want to move away from that [15:47] otherwise these keyboard shortcut bugs are not going away :( [15:47] attente: ah, will that fix the problem of many things in the session registering global grabs? [15:47] attente, thanks for working on that, but feel free to bounce that part to bregma's team, they said they would do it [15:48] larsu, i think so [15:48] i *hope* so [15:48] seb128, will do [15:48] attente: cool! Did you tell the unity8 guys about this as well? [15:48]