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qwebirc98279I am trying to install mythplugins, but it keeps getting stuck at the flash installation. Please help!01:13
sabhain Hi,  what's the magic argument for mythfilldatabase to force it to pull the program data without updating the channel list?01:15
sabhainI really need it to stop resurrecting deleted channels based on the guide data.01:15
skd5anersabhain: are you using schedules direct?01:21
skd5anersabhain: if so, hide the channels there, and then once deleted in myth they'll never re-populate01:21
skd5anersabhain: that's the correct way to do it... otherwise, i think you can use "--remove-new-channels"01:24
sabhainskd5aner: thanks.  Yes, using schedules direct, but have 3 different tuner types (just added a new one).01:41
sabhainCan I have multiple lineups at SD?01:41
sabhainall based on their existing?01:41
sabhainfor example, i don't want my HD-PVR/STB combo to use channels that my HDHR's can use, so I delete them in the setup for the HD-PVR, but they keep coming back.  Schedules direct doesn't seem to let me add my digital lineup twice, and rename it.01:46
skd5anersabhain: yes, you can have multiple listings on SD01:46
skd5anersabhain: I have a listing for just my analog tuners, a listing for my HDPVR, and a listing for my HDHR01:47
skd5anerthey each only provide the channels relavent to that particular tuner that would use it01:47
sabhainthats precisely my setup too.  The analogs are easy, as there's a separate lineup.01:47
skd5anerI believe you can have up to 4 lineups01:47
sabhainbut how do you keep the HDHR and HDPVR apart if they have some of the same channels?01:48
sabhainare you using Antenna for the HDHR?01:48
skd5anerQAM01:48
sabhainI mean the lineup.01:48
sabhainFor me, the HDHR and HDPVR are both linked to the same digital cable lineup.  How do I separate them if I can't add the same digital lineup twice and edit them differently?01:49
skd5anersabhain: I have a video source in mythtv set up for each type of tuning - analog, HD-PVR, and QAM...01:50
sabhainand on Schedules Direct, what do each of those point to?01:51
skd5anersabhain: I actually am looking now01:51
skd5anerI have 2 lineups on SD, one for the analog, and one for the digital cable01:52
skd5anerif you had an antenna, you'd have one for that01:52
sabhainOk, that reflects what I have (1 analog, one digital)01:52
skd5anermy qam and HDPVR one both use the "digital cable" one, but what I did is HIDE channels for each tuner the channels that I don't want (or can't tune) that tuner too01:53
skd5anersorry, I'm kind of remembering how I set this up as I talk through it outloud - I don't have to think about it very often01:53
sabhaingot it .. hide.01:53
skd5aneryes...01:53
skd5anerHide allows the tuner to not use it, even though SD provides data for it01:53
skd5anerbut it will not show up in the guide and it will not use the data to schedule recordings - it's as if the channel doesn't exist from a scheduler or live tv perspective01:54
sabhainI understand completely.  I had set it up 6 years ago, and forgot it (just analog and HDHR at the time).  Just did the upgrade to 12.04 and added 2 HD-PVR's .. and now have this new scenario that I wasn't prepared for.01:54
sabhainbut if it's hidden, and you're on the HD-PVR, and tune directly to a number that is hidden, I believe it will still try to tune it.01:54
skd5anerso, for example...01:55
skd5anerI have SD provide analog and digital lineups, but I have 3 video sources01:55
sabhainYou and I have what sound like "exactly" the same scenario.01:55
skd5anereach video source will have it's own channel lineup... so you can hide a channel associated with 1 video source,, but not the other01:56
skd5aneras an FYI, I use the channel editor in mythweb to flip the hide bit01:56
skd5anerquicker that way01:56
skd5anerbut you have to be more careful01:56
sabhainyep ..01:56
skd5aneryou could also do it directly in the db, but that's not recommended01:57
skd5aneryou do have to know your video source ID though to make that work01:57
sabhainwhile you're here .. you're not by chance running your HD-PVR off a slave backend are you?01:57
skd5anerwhich input ID is associated with which video source ID....01:57
skd5anerha, yes... I am01:57
skd5anerSlave Backend/frontend01:57
sabhaintoo funny ..01:57
sabhainany problems getting the slave backend to connect to the master when it's run as a service in the usual fashion?01:58
sabhainin my setup right now, the HD-PVR appears as  "unavailable" unless, I kill the startup mythbackend, and run mythbackend from inside a console.01:58
sabhainthe auto-start backend doesn't appear to be able to connect with the master .. but if I log a user in, open a terminal and run mythbackend .. connects fine.01:59
tgm4883sabhain, sounds like incorrect credentials in config.xml02:00
sabhainon the slave backend?02:00
tgm4883could be. What happens if you log in as the mythtv user and start the backend?02:00
skd5aneryea, what's your backend log say?02:01
sabhainhmmm ... let me check .. what's the mythtv user password if it hasn't been changed?02:01
tgm4883sabhain, it's generated on install02:01
tgm4883there is no default pass02:01
sabhainany text file I can drag that from?02:02
sabhainnm I'll just change it.02:02
tgm4883sabhain, well if it works for your user02:03
tgm4883then /home/<your user>/.mythtv/config.xml02:03
skd5anertgm4883: did you happen to see my update on my upstart script issues the other day?02:03
tgm4883no02:03
skd5anertgm4883: it was in mythtv-users...02:04
skd5anerthought I fixed it, but no luck...02:04
sabhaintgm4883: thanks!  The xml files were different.  Copied the one from the user that worked and now trying to restart to see if it works02:07
sabhaintgm4883: tremendous help.  Thanks .. can't believe I didn't think of that .. was so focused on the other setup file ..02:10
sabhainof course it shows up as available ..  now tuning doesn't seem to be working, but I have some progress.02:17
sabhainone step forward, 3 steps back02:25
sabhainnow the slave backend process starts & connects.  Thanks for the help on that.02:29
sabhainbut with the reboot, I'm now getting the dreaded "irsend: hardware does not support sending"02:29
sabhaindmesg reports the zilig initiation wen't ok, and the blaster appears as lirc0 ..02:30
sabhainI can't described how much I despise TWC and their QAM practices.02:30
sabhainif anyone can point me to the best resource for lirc debugging, that'd be great.  I appear to have the modules loaded correctly, dmesg reports successful load.02:51
sabhainbut I'm getting "irsend: could not connect to socket" which is typically indicative of lircd not running (it is) or (/var/run/lirc/lircd lacking write permissions .. it has them).02:52
sabhain1 hour ago, before fixing my problem with the backend automatic startup, lirc was working fine.  I would periodically need to kick it .. but it functioned.  Now, not so much.02:53
sabhainCan't get anything out of even command line irsend02:53
sabhainsorry to flood the channel.02:53
sabhainskd5aner: thanks for the recommendations on the guide data, went with your approach and it seems to have resolved the channel issues.  Thanks so much.04:23
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TandyUKhey guys, having some issues with a myth box not working with its remote, ive done all the usual diags but im missing something somewhere...14:45
TandyUKits a new windows mce ir blaster, which is showing up, and using irw i can see keypresses14:45
TandyUKits also seen by mcc and dkpg-reconfigure and i have tried setting it up as an mce remote, as well as /dev/input...14:46
TandyUKbut mythtv is not seeing the keypresses that irw does14:46
TandyUKmythfrontend rather14:46
TandyUKany suggestionswhat to check next?14:47
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