[04:25] <pitti> Good morning
[06:21] <jibel> Good morning
[10:59] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:26] <jibel> balloons, do you know anything about Dan's ubiquity tests. I fixed the runner to work with his latest branch and trusty, but default installation is in Finnish. Do you know if it is expected?
[11:29] <xnox> jibel: it picks a random language (from a few sane ones) and executes test in different language each time.
[11:29] <xnox> jibel: i think that's good =) it's a bit of fuzzy testing ;-)
[11:29] <xnox> (sane, meaning that the first char of the language name in in ASCII, so no weird languages)
[11:31] <jibel> xnox, okay I see, but perhaps we should have a default installation in English so we have a base of comparison when this 'fuzzy' testing fails?
[11:32] <xnox> jibel: why? =) are the logs all in Finish as well? as a developer the messages I care about are emitted in english I think.
[11:33] <xnox> jibel: it would be nice to override a language, and force tests in a particular language. E.g. this jenkins job always tests english, this one french, and this one does a random one.
[11:35] <jibel> xnox, some of them are in Finnish, but the main issue I see is that we have no reference and don't know if it fails because of the language or because the core is broken (i.e it takes more time to identify the cause of the problem)
[11:36] <xnox> jibel: ack.
[12:02] <pitti> jibel: thanks for doing the discard tests! I'm slightly confused about them, particularly why the "read compiled tree" test is so much slower
[12:03] <pitti> jibel: AFAICS, "discard" should mostly make a difference (much slower) on deletion; without discarding, writing gets slower over the weeks/months, but reading should always be equally fast no matter how much garbage there is on the disk or whether or not you use dicard
[13:01] <jibel> pitti, agreed. The test does an os.walk on the kernel tree and a sync() at the end. The sync might explain the bug difference between the default options and noatime but I don't see why it would make a difference when adding discard.
[13:02] <jibel> s/bug/big/
[14:04] <elopio> good morning.
[14:37] <njin> ubuntukylin
[16:00] <jibel> balloons, I'm activating autopilot test of ubiquity for lubuntu, xubuntu and edubuntu. any other flavor you'd like to see?
[16:01] <balloons> oO :-) umm.. I believe you can do it for ubuntu gnome also
[16:04] <elfy> oooh - I like the sound of that :)
[16:07] <xnox> jibel: excellent. once they run green for a while, we'd want to start blocking proposed -> current migration, unless autopilot passes.
[17:16] <samgabbay> Hello Canonicallians And Ubuntunians
[17:38] <samgabbay> you have to be kidding me -_-
[17:55] <DanChapman> evening all :-)
[17:55] <elfy> hey DanChapman
[17:56] <DanChapman> heya elfy :-) hows things?
[17:56] <elfy> pretty good thanks
[17:56] <elfy> I am going to try and get to the membership meeting on the 7th to shout from the sidelines :)
[17:58] <elfy> DanChapman: word from the wise, or old, whichever you prefer - make sure your reference on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards actually points to you :)
[17:59] <DanChapman> elfy thanks :-) Oh i'm sure i did it correctly I'll fix that now. What does a membership meeting entail anyway?
[18:00] <elfy> well from memory - I went - answered some questions and that was it
[18:00] <elfy> might want to try and scrounge some testimonials up - even if you have got 2 excellent people there already lol
[18:02] <DanChapman> elfy yes I was going to get on that. Ive just got back from a trip to birmingham so just getting my self back in order :-)
[18:02] <elfy> yep - r/l trumps everything else :)
[18:02] <elfy> you like working with OU? I did some of that before I managed to go to a uni fulltime
[18:04] <DanChapman> The OU is ok I suppose it seems a bit of a long winded load of nothing at times. I was up in birmingham at computeach training centre i'm doing some extra courses with them something a bit more practical than theoretical stuff :-)
[18:06] <elfy> DanChapman: yea - I found that - but it is supposedly part time - I was glad I was in a position to go fulltime
[18:06] <elfy> even if I was 38
[18:08] <DanChapman> elfy I decided to study full-time doing the maximum amount of modules a year with them as I had funding for it and I could spend more time at home with the kids this way :-)
[18:09] <elfy> not too bad then - and time at home is great :)
[18:13] <balloons> DanChapman, howdy
[18:14] <balloons> did you see this? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot_ubiquity-devel/lastCompletedBuild/ARCH=i386,TESTNAME=test_custom_install,label=rabisu/testReport/ubiquity_autopilot_tests.tests.test_custom_install/CustomInstallTestCase/test_custom_install/
[18:18] <DanChapman> balloons, howdy :-) There running again, YAY!
[18:19] <TheLordOfTime> balloons: remind me about these vUDS things, when are they and where are they held?
[18:20] <elfy> on the interwebs TheLordOfTime
[18:20] <elfy> just saying ...
[18:21] <balloons> TheLordOfTime, uds.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <TheLordOfTime> elfy: yes, i know that, but *where* on the interwebs :P
[18:21] <elfy> community track generally
[18:22] <balloons> yes, elfy is correct again
[18:22] <balloons> 2/2
[18:22] <elfy> that's this week sorted then :p
[18:23] <TheLordOfTime> balloons: expect me to be in attendance, is this having a corresponding hangout?
[18:23] <balloons> TheLordOfTime, yes, irc and g hangout
[18:24] <TheLordOfTime> might i ask who all's in the hangout so far?  (if you even know)
[18:24] <elfy> not me
[18:24]  * elfy is unloved
[18:24] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[18:25] <balloons> haha, he could join if he wanted
[18:25] <elfy> :)
[18:25] <balloons> you can mute your video :-)
[18:25] <balloons> audio only is fine.. anyways, whoever wants to enter the hangout can do so
[18:25] <elfy> he turns up - he lurks on irc - he has no webcam :p
[18:26] <TheLordOfTime> hehe, well, i asked because i wouldn't mind being in attendance there, but of course, if there's people higher up the chain who need to be there then that's fine.
[18:26] <TheLordOfTime> now, if only i could tell the system that I was going to be in attendance >.>
[18:26] <balloons> DanChapman, yes they are running.. xnox and jibel had a bit of conversation this morning about them.. basically they want to start blocking migrations from proposed once they are fully vetted
[18:26] <balloons> so we've arrived.. I'm wondering why the non-fatal error occurs that we see
[18:27] <DanChapman> balloons, that non-fatal is the catching the known bug that for the 'Something else' page title switching back to the title of the page before :-)
[18:28] <balloons> Ohh.. :-) It wasn't obvious as the ref and actual are the "same"
[18:35] <DanChapman> balloons, yes ref and actual should not be the same on that one. I actually need to sort the error messages a bit to make them clearer :-)
[19:58] <elopio> can I get a review here, please?
[19:58] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-weather-app/fix1248296-button_objectName/+merge/193997
[19:58] <elopio> I don't know... maaaybeee, balloons?
[19:59] <balloons> o, o, pick me, pick me.. file manager hates me right now
[20:11] <elopio> :)
[20:12] <davmor2> elopio: don't pick balloons he seems to eager
[20:13] <balloons> davmor2, sadly it was a 2 line change.. i get no respite
[20:13] <davmor2> balloons: oh well that's okay then :D
[20:15] <davmor2> balloons: Filemanager hates me too so I don't think you are specifically singled out ;)
[20:18] <balloons> davmor2, :-)
[20:29] <balloons> buonasera Letozaf_
[20:29] <Letozaf_> balloons, buonasera :-)
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, yay!!
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, I fixed one of rssreader-app tests
[20:58] <balloons> Letozaf_, excellent ;-)
[20:58] <Letozaf_> balloons, I will propose for merge
[20:59] <balloons> tested on the phone eh?
[20:59] <Letozaf_> balloons, argh! not yes just on the desktop, I will do it now :P
[21:21] <Letozaf_> balloons, on the phone I got one failure on 3 tests now, used to be 3
[21:21] <balloons> Letozaf_, excellent
[21:50] <dkessel> good evening. does it help to get a bug fixed if i convince people to say "i am affected by this bug" on launchpad? balloons ? ;)
[21:50] <dkessel> oh... there goes indicator-datetime again....
[21:52] <balloons> dkessel, that turns up the bug heat
[21:53] <balloons> high heat / priority bugs would get looked at sooner :-) But developers are developers..
[21:54] <dkessel> mhh :/ well bug 1179180 is both old and annoying and has heat of 94 already....
[21:55] <dkessel> try convincing your gf that ubuntu is easy to use and she can simply chat with you by clicking..... "oh, well that does not work... let me see..." ....
[21:57] <dkessel> ok checking the list... heat of 94 is nothing for the empathy package... top heat entry is 1586...
[22:19] <balloons> dkessel, weird bug
[22:20] <dkessel> annoying one :p
[22:20] <balloons> nice workaround someone posted, heh
[22:21] <dkessel> yup :) we can make that a patch for the empathy package then :p... a modified .desktop file
[22:22] <balloons> lol.. I use pidgin :-)
[22:22] <balloons> althought honestly I mostly just use IRC..
[22:22] <balloons> which is netheir pidgin nor empathy
[22:22] <dkessel> thinking of switching back to pidgin too...
[22:31] <balloons> elopio, wjat
[22:31] <balloons> is up with the weather app?
[22:31] <dkessel> sigh... finding my phone using my laptop's bluetooth is broken too...
[22:31] <samgabbay> anyone know how to decrpt a openpgp key?
[22:31] <samgabbay> for launchpad
[22:38] <elopio> balloons: it's using a lot of indexes, that now are not returning the right components.
[22:38] <elopio> thomi: I think you can also approve the clock branch.
[22:38] <balloons> elopio, everything is still unamed eh?
[22:39] <balloons> dkessel, broken as in broken by the update to saucy or ?
[22:39] <elopio> balloons: yes, this is not an easy app.
[22:40] <dkessel> balloons, not sure if it was already broken in raring tbh
[22:41] <elopio> take a look at my workaround: today_item.get_parent().get_children_by_type('QQuickItem', focus=False, z=1)
[22:48] <balloons> elopio, whoa.. is that for the search
[22:49] <elopio> I'm not proud of what I'm doing :(
[22:49] <elopio> that's because we have two quickitems, one for today and one for tomorrow.
[22:50] <elopio> I don't know how to assign the object names for them on QML. I'll report a bug, but for now we need to work it around for autopilot 1.4.
[23:04] <balloons> elopio, which
[23:30] <elopio> balloons: which what?
[23:30] <elopio> sorry, I didn't see the ping.
[23:30] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-weather-app/autopilot-1.4/+merge/194036
[23:30] <elopio> is it too bad? ^
[23:33]  * balloons looks
[23:34] <balloons> hmm.. we should be able to get objectnames for labels
[23:38] <elopio> balloons: yes, but I'm not sure how to do that. robotfuel has a branch that adds an emulator for the comboboxes
[23:38] <elopio> but he's also using the text of the labels.
[23:38] <balloons> elopio, I can add them..
[23:38]  * balloons grabs branch
[23:39] <elopio> :D
[23:39] <robotfuel> balloons: ping me if you want help :D
[23:44] <robotfuel> elopio: you have to add the OptionSelectorDelegate and ListElement options as a dictionary
[23:45] <elopio> that sounds nice.
[23:45] <robotfuel> elopio: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/view/head:/examples/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery/OptionSelectors.qml if you look at the custom model here you can see where it needs the objectName
[23:45] <elopio> robotfuel: I think the optionselector emulator is pretty high priority. Would you be able to push that branch this week?
[23:46] <robotfuel> elopio: I have a bug open ithikar said we were not suppose to update the examples
[23:46] <robotfuel> elopio: the devs had to do it.
[23:46] <balloons> robotfuel, elopio it seems the objectnames exist for what i'm seeing atm in your branch elopio
[23:47] <robotfuel> elopio: after 1.4 stuff lands I will push the branch
[23:47] <elopio> thanks robotfuel
[23:48] <elopio> balloons: like where? the unit combo boxes?
[23:48] <balloons>             OptionSelector {
[23:48] <balloons>                 id: unitsSelector
[23:48] <balloons>                 objectName: "UnitsSelector"
[23:49] <balloons> indeed you are doing units_selector.select_single
[23:50] <robotfuel> balloons: I think he means the labels in the option selector does not have object names.
[23:50] <robotfuel> elopio: ^ you want objectNames for the labels in the option selector?
[23:51] <elopio> robotfuel, balloons, yes, for the options in the selector.
[23:53] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1234020
[23:54] <balloons> I'm not sure I've ever needed to go beyond that.. hmm
[23:55] <balloons> I think I tried to abstract it a bit more and grab based on the order