=== Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [00:35] on the status page why are there still two broken features for the nexus 7 [00:37] on the status page why are there still two broken features for the nexus 7 === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [01:35] mardy: i don't suppose you're still around? [01:37] has anyone here tried running ubuntu-touch on a chromebook pixel? [01:57] well.. I got mer with hybris working.. interesting... my surface test fails... Hmmm Still waiting for video hardware decoding and ubuntu touch.. =) [01:57] test_glesv2 works [01:57] I think I know why the test failed.. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === jono is now known as Guest6286 [03:11] @harris... broken would assume that it was working at one time.. [04:09] hi all [04:09] ubuntu touch is in final release right ? [04:21] am I envoking this QtQuick application incorrectly? [04:22] marked image r/w, rebooted and installed python3-pyqt5.qtquick and downloaded the example pyqmldemo.py and pyqmldemo.qml mentioned in https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg04281.html [04:23] created an ~phablet/.local/share/applications/pyqml.desktop per https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg04491.html [04:24] added execute permissions to /home/phablet/pyqmldemo.py [04:24] but when running $ ./pyqmldemo.py --desktop_file_hint=pyqml from either adb shell, or from the Touch terminal app [04:24] i am presented with only a blank grey screen, i can minimize, and re-focus the app through Unity shell [04:24] but no components are visible [04:25] (this is image 11 on maguro) [04:26] I suspect i am not envoking the QtQuick application correctly, because I can swipe away swipe the left launcher [04:27] tap the .desktop icon to bring up the grey QtQuick canvas, or return to the home screen and click the thumbnail to bring up the same [04:27] but if i swipe to another running task [04:27] i am *not* able to right-swipe and rotate through [04:28] QtQuick app is only focusable via 2 of the 3 unity shell multitasking mechanisms [04:28] *and doesnt seem to actually be running/painting any components === tvoss|dinner is now known as tvoss [07:28] hi [07:29] trying to get touch to run on nexus7 with jdk8 -- its working [07:29] jkd8 and javafx is not working yet. === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [08:11] why doesn't android touch come pre installed in my phone? [08:17] holymac: can you be more specific? [08:17] holymac: what is android touch? [08:17] I meant android touch [08:18] ahhh... i meant ubuntu touch [08:18] sorry, i am kind of tipsy. [08:18] bed is -> that way [08:19] It is <-- way === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad === Guest38376 is now known as Zic [09:54] cjwatson, ping about fat click packages. Specifically, I have a binary QML plugin. I can happily create folders named for an architecture triplet, and put the appropriate compiled binary plugin into each triplet folder, and I can make my startup script actually be a script rather than just "qmlscene whatever.qml". What I don't know is how I find my architecture: I can run dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH but is [09:54] a click package allowed to do that? Does the click stuff provide any help here, or is working out my architecture at runtime and loading appropriate architecture-specific stuff something I need to do by hand? [09:57] aquarius: That was one of the things I was dropping heavy hints about at the Canonical planning sprint last week :-) [09:58] heh :) [09:58] aquarius: We need some kind of dispatcher, ideally centralised [09:58] dpkg-architecture is in dpkg-dev, so isn't the ideal base [09:59] I think we need a common dispatcher somewhere that's Architecture: any, built with knowledge of the correct multiarch triplet, and sets up some appropriate LD_LIBRARY_PATHs or whatever; but that has to go with some conventions for actually laying out the package [09:59] So I attempted to punt that to the SDK guys; dunno if I succeeded [09:59] cjwatson, yeah. In theory I can do all the work myself in my startup script, but it would be much much nicer if it somehow all worked by magic... so I provide in my click package a folder named "architecture-specific-stuff" and then "architecture-specific-stuff/arm-linux-gnueabihf" and "architecture-specific-stuff/x86_64-linux-gnu" and the app runner magically makes sure that the arch folder is on the ld_library_path [09:59] and the qml_import_path and etc. [10:00] we seem to have arrived at the same place, which is good [10:00] just to confirm: this is just a good idea at this point rather than anything that works, yes? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:06] aquarius: Right. If I get my way it will be s/architecture-specific-stuff/lib/g [10:07] well, I concede that my name is not actually a good one :) Not too sure about "lib", since lots of QML stuff seems to use that, but whatever the name is, not worried. [10:07] QML stuff isn't going to use lib/ surely [10:08] Now, if it weren't an insufficiently-caffeinated morning I might be able to remember how to get the multiarch triplet without dpkg-dev === t1mp_ is now known as t1mp [10:08] pure QML stuff isn't, indeed -- but it may be weird to have a "lib" folder which the QML bit of your app puts a bunch of QML in *and* which contains arch-specific folders [10:09] I dunno, seems no less weird than /usr/lib/ having both random package-specific helper directories and libraries [10:09] seems precisely cognate in fact :) [10:09] a reasonable point, although I'm not sure that "/usr/lib? wild wild west! do whatever you want" is the ideal role model ;-) [10:10] I suspect we might want lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/so and lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt or something, and the dispatcher puts lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/so on LD_LIBRARY_PATH and lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt on QML2_IMPORT_PATH or something. [10:10] (handwaving the actual names) [10:10] * popey pictures aquarius handwaving [10:10] oh, I see, you're talking about overlap between random other libraries and QML .sos [10:10] ah, not quite [10:12] three things here: random libraries, QML plugins, and importable QML library scripts (such as a useful JavaScript thing which many people import into a project). People writing QML stuff who import scripts quite often stick them in a folder called lib/. But I think you're right: the package can use the lib folder for whatever it wants, and *in addition* there are specially named subfolders which the dispatcher puts [10:12] on various paths [10:13] and that way we can support different "types" of binary thingies. So lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/bin would contain executables and the dispatcher would put it on $PATH if it exists. That sorta thing. [10:13] I think I'd prefer bin/, but yeah, whatever [10:13] https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/Tuples gives two existing interfaces for getting the multiarch triplet: dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_MULTIARCH and gcc -print-multiarch. Neither is on the default touch image AFAICS from a quick look at seeded-in-ubuntu [10:14] Still, I'm inclined to maintain that the triplet is the right thing to use by analogy with existing library directories, and we should make it workable :) [10:23] cjwatson: getting triplet without dpkg-dev >> wasn't this direct parsing of e.g. /usr/share/dpkg/archtable? [10:27] lool: EWW [10:28] No, definitely not [10:43] i dont have an ubuntu computer ..cant i flash my phone with a windows laptop? [10:57] Hello guys, how can i add ringtones on ubuntu touch? have you a solution? [10:59] iirc cjwatson and jdstrand were talking about hooks for click packages that could copy wallpapers or sounds in place so you could package them [10:59] Morning all [10:59] not sure where that stands or how hard it would be to implement yourself [11:00] which image should i download for samsung galaxy note 2? [11:00] !devices| pk__ [11:00] pk__: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [11:00] pk__, see the link on that wikipage, it should point to an xda thread [11:00] okay === soul is now known as Guest60865 === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [11:15] cjwatson: then I cant find how this was done either; it does ring a bell, but I didnt find what provided this [11:15] maybe it was some libc thing instead === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === _salem is now known as salem_ [11:29] Good morning all; happy Guy Fawkes Day! :-D [11:29] remember remember ... [11:29] :) [11:32] there? [11:32] how can i add ringtones on ubuntu touch? have you a solution? [11:34] as I just wasted time on trying to do "touch /userdata/writable_image" which was mistyped into a pastebin… is there any chance of getting a command line that can fail if it's wrong? [11:34] it's not fun to work with silent failures [11:37] marsee what i wrote above [11:37] marinellafor, ^^^ [11:38] uogra [11:38] ogra [12:02] oSoMoN: ping! === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:43] Hi, I just installed touch (trusty-devel), it stopped to: ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? THIS CANNOT BE UNDONE. [12:43] should I enter yes or no to that? [12:43] Device = grouper [12:45] At the bottom of the screen it says: Ubuntu update complete. [12:46] Options are No and Yes - Disable recovery flash [12:46] I don't want to brick the device === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [12:53] took my changes :) [12:53] It's working now === soul is now known as Guest14418 [12:56] How does one remove a click package? [12:56] shell command is ok. [12:56] (It's not showing up in the UI) [12:56] eraserhd: press and hold the app then select uninstall [12:57] davmor2: Unfortunately, I'm trying to reinstall because the first click package I made didn't give me an icon. [12:58] eraserhd: ah no idea then sorry, I'm assuming click --help might point you in the right direction though === nerochiaro is now known as nerochiaro_lunch [12:58] adb shell [12:58] sudo -u phablet -i [12:58] click list [12:58] then find the package you want to remove [12:58] davmor2: OK, weird. It worked the second time I tried to reinstall over top (or at least didn't error out this time). [12:58] sudo click --unreigster appname verno [12:59] popey: Oh, thanks. [12:59] popey: Does 'click install' imply 'click register'? [13:00] timppa, for the future: you cant brick nexus devices with any of the ubuntu tools :) (you would have to screw around with the bootloader itself, which we dont touch at all) [13:01] eraserhd: not if the package isn't installed [13:01] eraserhd: you need to install the package, then register it to a user [13:03] popey: Is this the usual way to try a phone app when developing?: adb push *.click /tmp/; adb shell click install /tmp/*.click; adb shell click register ; ? [13:04] that's not a correct way to install a package [13:04] popey: (I wouldn't recommend the "install, then register" language, it just confuses people) [13:04] use pkcon install-local foo.click === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [13:04] does that actually work now? [13:04] has for ages [13:05] hm [13:05] it's the recommended CLI method [13:05] * ogra_ uses it all the time [13:05] ok. thanks [13:05] eraserhd: ^ [13:05] cjwatson: as root? [13:05] no [13:05] as phablet [13:06] What he said [13:06] i wiish we had a similar easy way to uninstall though ... [13:06] The only problem I'm aware of with pkcon install-local on the phone is bug 1245677 [13:06] bug 1245677 in click-apparmor (Ubuntu) "fails to load UTF-8 manifests when not in a UTF-8 locale" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245677 [13:07] ogra_: It can be done through pkcon too, but the interface is annoying, I'll grant [13:07] yeah, i usually do it as root with unregister --user=phablet ... [13:07] I was a bit disappointed that grouper did not have the tablet version of touch, should it have? [13:07] timppa: no [13:08] timppa: aiui the screen isn't wide (tall) enough [13:08] popey: If you must use the low-level click interface for some reason, then "click install --user=phablet foo.click" - no reason to expose the install/register separation to people [13:08] cjwatson: and what about removal is there a similar pkcon for that? Or is click --unregister the correct way? [13:08] popey: why? [13:08] ok [13:08] the sidestage needs some space [13:08] davmor2: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00553.html [13:08] thanks cjwatson [13:08] * popey updates his scripts [13:09] davmor2: i.e. pkcon remove 'com.ubuntu.test;1.3;all;local:click' to translate that last bullet point [13:09] So if I do sudo -u phablet pkcon install-local /tmp/*.click, I still don't see the icon on the home screen. [13:10] I suspect that's the click scope not refreshing properly [13:10] cjwatson: thanks it was only if the question came up again the correct advice could be given :) [13:10] you might find that a session restart (simplest: reboot) shows the icon [13:10] eraserhd, do a search [13:10] eraserhd, that forces a refresh of the click lens [13:17] ogra_: er, well rebooting the phone worked [13:18] eraserhd, well, i dont like to wait minutes to test my change to an app :) [13:18] i usually use the search === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:20] Yay! My Starbucks app works! [13:20] cool [13:21] \o/ [13:21] Is there a non-gui way to build the click installer? [13:21] popey, btw, i shold have a usable qml wrapper for webapps ready by the weekend ... (already have a back button working, just need to read into url-dispatcher fro opening external links) [13:21] (It's time to automate some steps.) [13:22] oh nice [13:23] eraserhd: click build ./appfolder [13:25] popey: When I build through the GUI, I get 45K package. When I use click build, I get a 27K package. [13:25] ogra_, why that and not the webbrowser --webapp method? [13:25] eraserhd: I'd unpack each and look at the difference, then maybe file a bug against the sdk [13:25] it rpobably adds the project files if you use the UI [13:26] sergiusens, because you cant set a UA string without having it added to the system wide override file [13:26] I figured out that click packages are .debs, but I don't remember that toolchain 'cause I haven't used it in ages. [13:27] sergiusens, i have a bug open for this against webbrowser-app (to add a cmdline option) but want to use certain apps before that appears [13:27] and it is a nice fingertraining too ;) [13:27] getting warm with QML and all [13:35] Where does the app title come from? It doesn't seem to be picked up from the manifest. === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [13:36] eraserhd, it is specified in the web ui on upload [13:37] beuno: So there's no way to specify for pkcon? [13:37] eraserhd, well, the .desktop file has a field for this as well [13:37] not sure pkcon would be able to read that [13:38] cjwatson may know [13:44] pkcon doesn't care what the app title is [13:44] But indeed I suspect you just need a suitable .desktop file [13:51] cjwatson: I see you assigned yourself to bug #1245677 [13:51] cjwatson: is there more needed for that? [13:51] bug 1245677 in click-apparmor (Ubuntu) "fails to load UTF-8 manifests when not in a UTF-8 locale" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1245677 === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [13:53] cjwatson: I ask because I was writing ci testing for click-apparmor and was going to upload it once that was in place [13:53] and I plan to have that in place today [13:58] jdstrand: I just assigned myself for completeness [13:58] Nothing more needed AFAIK [13:59] cjwatson: ok. like I said, I'll upload that in a bit [14:00] Sure [14:00] I only fixed the metadata because I wanted to mention the bug in IRC so I wanted the bot to show it as fix-committed, really :) [14:01] :) [14:01] cjwatson: np and thanks for the patch :) === soul is now known as Guest66228 [14:18] Ok, so how do I specify to pkcon the package to remove? [14:18] Alternately: are there any road-tested scripts or make targets for installing to a phone? [14:19] eraserhd: I mentioned the pkcon remove interface above [14:19] 13:09 davmor2: i.e. pkcon remove 'com.ubuntu.test;1.3;all;local:click' to translate that last bullet point [14:20] (it's not ideal, pkcon has funny ideas about this) [14:20] eraserhd: You probably just need to substitute the first and second field there [14:22] cjwatson: Ok, thanks. [14:25] cjwatson: Would you expect this to work in r100? [14:26] definitely [14:26] xnox: hey [14:26] xnox: trying the emulator, it gets a bit confused while generating apparmor profiles [14:26] xnox: I've noticed some kernel warnings in dmesg related to this, are these known / did you already pass these to security team? [14:27] lool: yep known, I'm looking into it [14:27] jjohansen: cool thanks [14:27] cjwatson, ogra_: I'm getting: Command failed: This tool could not find the installed package: could not find net.eraserhead.ubuntu-touch.starbucks-app;0.1;all;local;click [14:28] 'click list' shows net.eraserhead.ubuntu-touch.starbucks-app 0.1 [14:28] eraserhd: local:click not local;click [14:29] oh [14:29] i.e. replace last semicolon with colon [14:29] and yes, should work in r100 [14:30] cjwatson: Thanks, that works. [14:33] I need some help with the nexus 4. When I power it on, it shows the google logo and then after a few seconds reboots to show the battery icon. Doesn't go all the way to the ubuntu welcome screen. [14:33] Do I leave it to charge for few hours before trying again? [14:34] sounds like you are very low on battery [14:34] ogra_: ah okay .. I thought I messed it up or something [14:34] well, did you hack your image in rw mode ? [14:35] then this indeed can be :0 [14:35] :) [14:35] just revert what you did then *g* [14:35] ogra_: yes I did to test an upstream package MP [14:35] ogra_: I cant adb shell until it boots to ubuntu though to undo it [14:36] you should have adb access when the google logo is up [14:36] adbd is started as one of the very first services [14:36] ogra_: yay ubuntu started up [14:36] i see the welcome screen [14:36] great [14:36] * nik90 sighs a relief [14:36] so it just took long [14:36] So I figured out the size thing: .excludes doesn't seem to like wildcards (or the CLI click build doesn't listen to it). [14:37] So I'm putting click packages inside click packages. [14:38] ogra_: no the first few times it kept rebooting itself...only now it goes all the way to the ubuntu welcome screen..I guess you were right about the battery [14:38] well, check the indicator [14:38] it should tell you [14:38] 1% battery [14:38] yeah [14:38] charge it [14:39] quickly, before it reboots again ;) [14:39] ;) [14:39] and on a proper wallcharger ... [14:39] the number of things firing on first boot is impressive [14:39] USB ports only provide 500mA ... thats about as much as the device uses when idling [14:39] when you check it out with the emulator :-) [14:39] * lool watches gst-plugin-registry and click grind through the initial setup [14:40] lool, noticing my calendar, we shoulld probably drop that system image meeting :) [14:40] * ogra_ doesnt think we need it anymore [14:40] oh yeah [14:41] doesnt' seem like anyone missed it [14:41] yeah === nerochiaro_lunch is now known as nerochiaro [14:41] system-image works pretty reliable nowadays ... [14:43] ogra_: there are some things we might want to discuss at vUDS [14:43] yup [14:43] for instance, supporting community ports isn't great right now; perhaps we can do things to allow system-image to work with just the ubuntu bits [14:43] there's a saucy SRU underway for download manager [14:44] lool, we need to generally focus on helping ports more this cycle [14:44] we kind of left them behind [14:44] the question of x86 images, emulator imagees [14:44] due to everyone working like crazy in the last weeks of the cycle [14:44] We could pregenerate emulator images too [14:44] lool, we need x86 images,. but the issues start on a different level before we can even think about system-image support [14:45] wow, emulator actually starts unity8 and maliit [14:45] on a black screen though [14:45] packaging on x86 etc [14:45] rootfs creatiion ... [14:45] its all focused on arm and android containers atm === rachelliu_ is now known as rachelliu [14:48] sergiusens: do you know what's the way to launch a qml app with qmlscene from an adb shell these days ? [14:49] nerochiaro, same as usual, with the desktop file hint [14:49] sergiusens: i keep getting "QUbuntu: Could not create application instance" when i do that [14:49] lool: starting or starting and generating crash files in /var/crash/ for both unity8 and maliit? [14:49] =) [14:50] sergiusens: from an image flashed this morning [14:50] xnox: yeah generating crash files is what it seems to be mostly doing :-) [14:51] xnox, sergiusens: Do we want to keep the build-emulator-sdcard.sh and run-emulator.sh as shell scripts in the future, or would we want to move them to python, perhaps even in phablet-tools? [14:51] asking cause I think it would be nice to avoid too many different places to know about the internals of how filesystems are laid out [14:54] lool: once they actually work, we will be generating images on cdimage / system-image. And one would just fetch the lot with phablet-flash. [14:54] lool: at the moment, it doesn't make sense to invest much time into that, since we still do not have graphical output / unity8 running. [14:54] ack [14:55] yeah [14:55] I started with chmod -x /etc/init.d/apparmor and enabled=0 in /etc/default/apport [14:55] lool, phablet-tools but encapsulated in the sdk as well [14:55] xnox, do you think it's worth trying TLS_REG_EMUL y in the kernel? [14:57] xnox, sergiusens: Are you guys debugging the video output issue? It sounds like you're into a lower level problem with thread local storage, but I guess that might be a result of your debugging into the GL video output? [14:59] lool, well my crash on surfaceflinger which has a nice backtrace leads to http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_development.git;a=blob;f=tools/emulator/opengl/system/OpenglSystemCommon/HostConnection.cpp;h=940f5aeab4500381495595fb2a4bfdc66d3cdb27;hb=refs/heads/phablet-trusty#l52 [14:59] http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_development.git;a=blob;f=tools/emulator/opengl/system/OpenglSystemCommon/ThreadInfo.h;h=032873340c654d5d54967ac1212aeca17de346d4;hb=refs/heads/phablet-trusty [15:01] sergiusens: Do you have a link to your nice crash? [15:03] lool, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365082/ === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [15:04] lool, you might find this useful http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365090/ [15:11] Can't run unity8 from trunk using ./run_on_device. Known issue guys? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365123/ === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [15:12] sergiusens: thanks === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [15:20] bzoltan1: hey, so it seems Mirv couldn't release ubuntu-ui-toolkit, is that work ongoing? [15:20] bzoltan1: remember we really do need to release it today to not block thomi on AP 1.4 transition :) [15:20] Hmm how does one enter the android container now that it's not running adb anymore? [15:21] am I supposed to kill the host adbd to get to the android one? === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [15:21] didrocks: I rememer that i have promised to you not to release anything from Tuesday noon [15:21] lool, yeah, thats the only safe way ... [15:21] bzoltan1: yeah, we have 2 releases [15:21] one with 1.3 (this is today) [15:22] but for that, we need trunk to be releasable [15:22] and then, one with AP 1.4 (tomorrow) [15:22] ogra_: hmm for some reason that didn't work immediately in the emulator [15:22] but it seems we are blocked on the first step, right? [15:22] perhaps I havent waited long enough [15:22] lool, you need to drop the snippet from /var/lib/lxc/android/pre-start.d/ [15:22] and reboot [15:22] mardy: ping [15:23] ah right [15:23] lool, if you dont care about being under the init session you can determine the PID of the container with lxc-info -n android and chroot into /proc/$PID/rootfs [15:23] click build won't make a valid package without the '-m', I guess? [15:24] bzoltan1: ? [15:24] (that is essentially what android_chroot used to do ... but as i mentioned, wont actually get youo inside the container) === codinho_ is now known as codinho [15:25] didrocks: yes,we are blocked .. let me check out the situation [15:26] bzoltan1: thanks, just keep me posted :) [15:26] kenvandine: hey, i fixed the fitbit account plugin :D got time for an MR by any chance? [15:26] didrocks:I am a little bit worried that we do not push the fix in the middle of the AP migration [15:26] cwayne, sure! [15:26] sergiusens: you released all click apps (after ensuring they passed autopilot 1.3 tests of course) [15:26] cwayne, i am very curious what the fix was [15:26] bzoltan1: we need to have the fix before [15:26] bzoltan1: remember my email? all components need to be released first [15:26] kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/account-plugin-fitbit/qml-plugins/+merge/193870 [15:27] kenvandine: writing a qml plugin to do another api call to pull the username :) [15:27] didrocks, except for sudoku, yes [15:27] bzoltan1: and I don't want the toolkit being the one blocking even starting the migration :) [15:27] didrocks, but that was ages ago [15:27] cwayne, that's annoying [15:27] didrocks, almost like 2 weeks ago [15:27] sergiusens: great! what about notes-app btw? I see it's a click and in the archive? [15:28] kenvandine: very [15:28] didrocks, I think bfiller still wanted the apps as deb too for desktop use [15:28] sergiusens: I'm not sure when we run AP tests here, we test the click one or the new .deb we just installed, do you know? [15:28] (it's confusing in some words) [15:29] didrocks, the infra doesn't support click testing yet; I thought I mentioned that to you yesterday [15:29] sergiusens: hi! [15:29] hey [15:30] sergiusens: not sure about "the infra", but smoke testing do test them, right? [15:30] (once released) [15:30] the image tests do [15:30] but not the ci/autolanding I guess [15:30] sergiusens: I tested calendar-app and from my side it's good for release, not sure if you already pushed the new version today? [15:30] didrocks, yes, smoke image testing yes [15:30] sergiusens: so, you are running the AP tests manually before releasing, right? [15:30] didrocks, yes [15:30] ok, great, thanks :) [15:31] Hey guys, anyone familiar with unity8's ./run_on_device? [15:31] sil2100, no I haven't; didrocks where was the pad with the status of transition? === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [15:32] sergiusens: http://pad.ubuntu.com/autopilot-1-4 [15:32] thanks [15:32] you have the list of all packages [15:32] I think we need to sort the click vs packages in the archive [15:32] seems we test/release multiple times (for click and for .debs) [15:32] didrocks, I was hoping for that to be sorted during the sprint [15:32] not even sure if we install the new debs, what we do test it the .debs version or the .click [15:32] didrocks, I'll do whatever is required btw [15:32] sergiusens: wasn't discussed AFAIK [15:33] sil2100: do you know, once you install, let's say notes-app on device, if we test the .debs notes-app or the click one? [15:33] didrocks, today's image in proposed already has autopilot 1.4? [15:34] sergiusens: no, we do the release *before* 1.4 [15:34] and then tomorrow, we'll have 1.3 [15:34] (if we can release the toolkit today, before) [15:34] didrocks, so I need to go into writable image mode to test the clicks? :-/ [15:34] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/pending/trusty-preinstalled-touch-armhf.manifest has python-autopilot 1.3.1+13.10.20131003.1-0ubuntu2 [15:34] sergiusens: what I want you to test today is without 1.3 [15:35] so no need to go in writable mode [15:36] didrocks, I think I'm confused, but I'll reread to understand the objectives here [15:36] didrocks: no idea, but I was guessing we're testing the one that was installed last [15:36] sergiusens: easy, we want a snapshot before 1.3 and after 1.4 [15:36] Due to the desktop file being installed from the last install [15:36] cwayne, reviewed... needs fixing [15:36] sil2100: can you check? (I guess cjwatson and popey would be the best to ask about it ;)) [15:36] cwayne, ping me when you need another, it is minor things [15:37] sergiusens: today, we try to do the snapshot before moving to 1.4 [15:37] to ensure we have a clean baseline [15:37] didrocks: I don't know, sorry [15:37] didrocks, ok, and sil2100 you want a calendar app with ap 1.3 tests? [15:37] maybe lool would know then? [15:37] sergiusens: exactly, like for all the other click apps that are going to be impacted with that transition [15:38] didrocks, nah, I just read sil2100 say it's ready and not sure the 'what' part of the 'ready' he was referring to; I'll just manually inspect the code [15:39] sergiusens: I guess he installed it and tried AP tests [15:39] sergiusens: yes, I meant it is ready since I ran the 1.3 AP tests on it and I didn't see any regressions [15:39] didrocks: the question is whether we test .deb or .click? [15:40] right [15:40] how to know? [15:40] There were failures, yes, but nothing regressing, as they were from the new parts - dogfooding showed things working as before [15:40] didrocks: you should be calling into the specific test script and that should do the right thing [15:40] didrocks: IIUC, the image tests are manually switched over from .deb to click [15:40] didrocks: and they should all be up to date since we dont include the debs which are clicks [15:41] It is the right channel to ask unity8 related questions, isn't it? [15:41] * karni double checking [15:41] didrocks: we should not have both the .deb and .click installed ever [15:41] didrocks: if it's a click, we run ./phablet-click-test-setup first to set tests up [15:42] if it's a .deb we install the -autopilot .deb [15:42] then we run ./phablet-test-run [15:42] karni: hard to tell, depends on the question ;-) [15:42] karni: also, depends if the right person to answer is around or not [15:43] kenvandine: pushed :) [15:43] lool: 1) can't run unity from trunk 2) yeah, probably that's the reason noone's picking up my question ;) === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:44] karni: you might want to try pinging Saviq [15:44]