| nuvolari | o/ morning | 05:15 |
|---|---|---|
| bduk | Good morning everyone | 05:19 |
| Kilos | morning superfly Private_User and others | 05:25 |
| Private_User | morning Kilos,hows it going? | 05:25 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 05:25 |
| Private_User | ah not too bad | 05:26 |
| Kilos | do you work from home doing web designs? | 05:26 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 05:27 |
| Kilos | hi bduk mazal | 05:27 |
| Kilos | werk wget nou soos jy dit wil he mazal ? ek sien nog tips in die pos | 05:28 |
| Private_User | yep I work from home | 05:29 |
| Private_User | sometimes doing web design | 05:29 |
| Kilos | wow how do you advertise? | 05:29 |
| mazal | Nope Kilos | 05:30 |
| Kilos | aw | 05:30 |
| Private_User | on the internet but currently need to set up my own website and once that is done I can do saome serious advertising/marketing | 05:31 |
| Kilos | ah | 05:31 |
| magespawn | good morning | 05:40 |
| Kilos | ohi magespawn | 05:41 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 05:41 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 05:46 |
| Kilos | haha the fools. telkom say their LTE is for areas where there is no adsl. liars. its all setup in cities | 05:51 |
| Squirm | morning | 05:58 |
| Kilos | and all on contract | 05:59 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 05:59 |
| Kilos | and Xethron | 05:59 |
| Kilos | inetpro, http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/547017-Telkom-Mobile- | 06:07 |
| inetpro | good morning Kilos | 06:07 |
| Kilos | if your modem can do the 2300 frequency you can go lte | 06:07 |
| Kilos | hi my friend | 06:07 |
| Kilos | without a contract | 06:07 |
| Squirm | magespawn: The Big Cat Sanctuary was worth it | 06:08 |
| Squirm | thanks for that | 06:08 |
| magespawn | Squirm, you are welcome | 06:08 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'm happy with my speed | 06:12 |
| Kilos | ok | 06:12 |
| inetpro | LTE will give me too much data too quickly | 06:12 |
| Kilos | dont work too hard | 06:12 |
| Kilos | i gotta do a reinstall here on unity to try get 12.04 working on the e220 | 06:13 |
| Kilos | sigh | 06:13 |
| Kilos | makes me wonder about the new unity if its also fast like the new kde | 06:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but thanks for the info anyway | 06:15 |
| Kilos | np | 06:15 |
| bmg505 | good morning | 06:21 |
| Kilos | hi bmg505 long time no hear | 06:21 |
| bmg505 | ja man, life is getting in the way | 06:22 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:22 |
| magespawn | is that genuine life or this thing we call work? | 06:24 |
| bmg505 | nah RL and work, ffs its killing me one day at a time :) | 06:25 |
| Kilos | ffs? | 06:25 |
| bmg505 | yanks just pasted this link and our internet connections chokes with it http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/308/b/d/untitled_317_by_dennisk4-d6t2m8t.gif | 06:26 |
| bmg505 | I'd rather meet my end happy living in a fruit paradize | 06:26 |
| Kilos | tropical island in the sun | 06:26 |
| bmg505 | but then that would be a bloody boring end | 06:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:26 |
| Symmetria | wow, I have been treated well by vendors in the past | 06:41 |
| Symmetria | but the lengths juniper has gone to to try and convince us that they are the right partner... is fucking mindblowing | 06:41 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:43 |
| magespawn | bmg505 i can't get it either | 06:44 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 06:59 |
| gerritfromsa | Good mornin ! | 07:00 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy gerritfromsa | 07:06 |
| Symmetria | hrm, this anonymous shit | 07:07 |
| Symmetria | is gonna get REAL interesting today | 07:07 |
| Symmetria | people already gathering in some pretty key locations and well, god knows how big this will get | 07:07 |
| Symmetria | and how much chaos will arise | 07:08 |
| gerritfromsa | long live anonymous | 07:08 |
| Symmetria | gerritfromsa heh anonymous is an interesting force, but on occasion, they can be... troublesome | 07:08 |
| Kilos | hi tal0n Symmetria | 07:09 |
| tal0n | hi all | 07:09 |
| gerritfromsa | it will always be the 1st group that do something that will make mistakes and get all the blame | 07:09 |
| Kilos | what you on about Symmetria ? | 07:09 |
| tal0n | hi Kilos | 07:09 |
| gerritfromsa | at least someone is doing something | 07:09 |
| Symmetria | kilos anonymous is planning on putting a million+ people marching in the streets today world wide | 07:09 |
| Symmetria | *HUGE* demonstrations planned | 07:09 |
| Symmetria | they are calling it the million mask march | 07:09 |
| Kilos | for what goal? | 07:10 |
| Symmetria | and they have the numbers to actually do that | 07:10 |
| Symmetria | kilos general protest about censorship on the internet, violations of freedom, politics being played on the internet etc | 07:10 |
| Kilos | aha | 07:10 |
| Symmetria | they are basically going out to say "leave the internet for those that use it, and keep your government style bullshit off it" | 07:10 |
| Kilos | good luck to them and us | 07:11 |
| gerritfromsa | make sure you're surfing silent if youre using the word anonymous | 07:12 |
| gerritfromsa | anyone knows where can still find DDR2 server ram ? | 07:31 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:39 |
| Kilos | ask Symmetria gerritfromsa | 07:40 |
| Kilos | hes a server network man | 07:40 |
| Kilos | wbb. going to kde | 07:43 |
| Vince-0 | hi! | 07:45 |
| magespawn | hey Vince-0 | 07:47 |
| nuvolari | o/ hi Vince-0, oom kil<tab>, magespawn, maiatoday, gerritfromsa | 07:50 |
| magespawn | what up nuvolari ? | 07:51 |
| Vince-0 | nuvolari ! | 07:52 |
| * gerritfromsa is away: Hmmmm ... | 07:54 | |
| Kilos | hmm... | 08:30 |
| Kilos | stupid 13.04 dont see my arab modem | 08:30 |
| Kilos | and 12.04 dont see the other one | 08:32 |
| Kilos | grrr | 08:32 |
| Vince-0 | try fedora? | 08:33 |
| Kilos | no man, i love ubuntu | 08:41 |
| Kilos | no brain space to learn rpm stuffs too | 08:42 |
| Vince-0 | noo just use package manager | 08:44 |
| Kilos | just gotta find a way to hack into the E220 modem and turn off timeouts then i can use it through the router | 08:44 |
| Vince-0 | I've been running Fedora on my laptop at work for over a year now no problems | 08:44 |
| Kilos | better than kubuntu | 08:45 |
| Kilos | i just cured the modem auto start i think with a script i was given for 12.04 | 08:46 |
| Kilos | 13.04 mobile setup is too involved | 08:46 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed: what section of the buntu dev work do you do? | 08:47 |
| Kilos | good morning as well | 08:47 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: whatever I feel like - mostly archive maintainance | 08:47 |
| tumbleweed | but these days, not too much | 08:47 |
| Kilos | you still talk to them | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | occasionally | 08:48 |
| Kilos | ask them not to make things more difficult. and try follow the lines like with 10.10 where everything just worked | 08:48 |
| tumbleweed | hah | 08:49 |
| Kilos | not to make things more difficult to setup | 08:49 |
| tumbleweed | nobody is trying to make things more difficult | 08:49 |
| Kilos | noobs get frightened away like that | 08:49 |
| Kilos | sjoe you must see the involved setup needed to get 3g working | 08:50 |
| tumbleweed | plug in, connect? | 08:50 |
| tumbleweed | that's how it always used to work | 08:50 |
| Kilos | not anymore | 08:50 |
| Kilos | you used to get a popup about mobile broadband device detected, click to setup | 08:51 |
| Kilos | thats gone | 08:51 |
| tumbleweed | you only get that once, I think | 08:51 |
| Kilos | maybe i missed it, install goes too fast | 08:53 |
| Kilos | thats a very good thing. installs as fast as installing dos | 08:53 |
| Kilos | hehe | 08:53 |
| mazal | Does somebody know how do I move an already opened app to another workspace ? | 09:51 |
| mazal | on 12.04 | 09:51 |
| mazal | Nevermind , found it | 09:53 |
| tumbleweed | shift ctrl-alt-arrows? | 09:53 |
| mazal | I am so stupid | 09:53 |
| mazal | Forgot about the "hold super key in for shortcuts display " thing lol | 09:53 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: so, strace proved useful. I now know where the issue is occurring. Now to figure out how to fix it :-/ | 10:43 |
| tumbleweed | what was it? | 10:47 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn hi sakhi | 11:05 |
| Kilos | aw poor maia has a bad connection | 11:16 |
| Kilos | or a 5 min timeout | 11:16 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: basically, this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171 | 11:27 |
| superfly | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171/comments/47 | 11:28 |
| * gerritfromsa is back (gone 03:41:28) | 11:36 | |
| mazal | Cheers everyone , enjoy your evening | 12:33 |
| gerritfromsa | \quit | 13:07 |
| Kilos- | hmm... | 14:24 |
| Vince-0 | home time! | 14:50 |
| Symmetria | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYTkUhdCcAEnGkS.jpg:large | 15:09 |
| Kilos- | yay its summer time again. 17/34°c | 16:01 |
| Kilos- | Symmetria: ping | 16:01 |
| Kilos- | hey Private_User see here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu:Saucy#Hardware_requirements | 16:08 |
| Kilos- | looks like the new kubuntu can run on 384m ram minimum | 16:08 |
| Kilos- | or are you happy with lubuntu | 16:09 |
| Tonberry | i would not run kubuntu on less than 1gb of ram | 16:11 |
| Kilos- | me neither even though this one is fast | 16:31 |
| Kilos- | some things still open slowly even with 1.5g ram | 16:31 |
| Kilos- | but he also wants to install to his lappy so it should be great there | 16:32 |
| Kilos- | unless thats also only got 512m ram | 16:35 |
| kbmonkey | 0/ lo | 16:50 |
| Kilos- | hi kbmonkey | 16:53 |
| Kilos- | hows my monkey | 16:53 |
| kbmonkey | you got a tail Kilos- | 16:55 |
| Kilos- | oh my | 16:55 |
| Kilos- | sorry | 16:55 |
| kbmonkey | are you a monkey too? | 16:56 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| kbmonkey | apie | 16:56 |
| kbmonkey | if I lie down now I will fall asleep | 16:56 |
| Kilos | me too | 17:08 |
| Kilos | long day | 17:08 |
| Kilos | hi psy | 18:01 |
| Kilos | oh my | 18:01 |
| Kilos | oh that was leaving not joining | 18:01 |
| Kilos | twit | 18:01 |
| kbmonkey | yup, you missed it man | 18:06 |
| kbmonkey | better luck next time :] | 18:07 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:14 |
| Kilos | hi psychicist | 18:14 |
| Kilos | you well apart from tired kbmonkey ? | 18:14 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 18:14 |
| Kilos | i got a pretty 13.04 kde. 10 workspaces each with a different wallpaper | 18:15 |
| Kilos | and no blue | 18:15 |
| kbmonkey | good work Kilos | 18:16 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:16 |
| Kilos | took long enough | 18:16 |
| kbmonkey | I am sure, phew | 18:17 |
| kbmonkey | too much of work that is for me. | 18:17 |
| Kilos | yo aquarat | 18:21 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:35 |
| Kilos | lo the pro | 18:36 |
| inetpro | hello Kilos | 18:36 |
| Kilos | hello inetpro | 18:36 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:36 |
| inetpro | have you recovered from the late nights yet? | 18:36 |
| Kilos | yeah i kinda good today ty and you? | 18:38 |
| inetpro | tired | 18:38 |
| Kilos | you do nothing all day how can you be tired | 18:39 |
| Kilos | make the appies work harder | 18:39 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, having a nice rooi bos tea | 18:40 |
| Kilos | good man | 18:40 |
| Kilos | i just gotta still sort one prob here | 18:40 |
| Kilos | unity sees my arab modem only and kde sees the e220 0nly | 18:40 |
| Kilos | sigh | 18:40 |
| kbmonkey | sounds like a missing udev rule | 18:41 |
| Kilos | so drive swop means sim change as well | 18:41 |
| kbmonkey | eish, | 18:41 |
| Kilos | explain? | 18:41 |
| kbmonkey | each usb device has a model code built into it. when you connect it, the kernel looks in it's little database for known device codes... | 18:42 |
| Kilos | ok and then? | 18:43 |
| kbmonkey | let me see.. | 18:44 |
| Kilos | oh if i run lsusb on both it shows them there | 18:44 |
| Kilos | kde even tries to dial out but fails everytime | 18:45 |
| Kilos | but works perfect with the e220 | 18:45 |
| kbmonkey | on the pc where e220 works run 'dmesg'. then do the same on the other os. compare. | 18:47 |
| kbmonkey | you might see the one recognizes it's "zero-cd" a fake cd that has the windows setup files. it swithces over to modem mode. | 18:48 |
| kbmonkey | but sometimes it won't switch and gets stuck on zero-cd mode | 18:48 |
| kbmonkey | installing usb-modeswitch helps with this | 18:49 |
| Kilos | i have that | 18:49 |
| Kilos | anyway dont worry | 18:50 |
| Kilos | i will try putting the e220 in the router and getting connected that way | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | ... | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | (net down?) | 18:51 |
| Kilos | im sure both will accept that | 18:51 |
| kbmonkey | eish | 18:51 |
| Kilos | router rsting because i was getting timeouts then found it was the e220 not the router | 18:52 |
| Kilos | so flash again and upgraded first to vmc that voda then then flashed and put mobile partner and it didnt timeout today | 18:53 |
| Kilos | eish eish eish | 18:54 |
| kbmonkey | it's modem makers not helping to keep their device codes up to date with our nice operating system :( | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i see 13.10 only supported till dec this year | 18:54 |
| Kilos | that sucks | 18:54 |
| Kilos | Raring Ringtail is not an LTS (Long Term Support) release. It will be supported with security updates for both the desktop and server versions until December 2013. | 18:54 |
| kbmonkey | sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x12d1 -p 1003 -V 0x12d1 -P 1003 -R | 18:55 |
| kbmonkey | and remove the modem and connect again. | 18:55 |
| Kilos | ty i will save that | 18:55 |
| kbmonkey | that only works until reboot | 18:55 |
| Kilos | oh you mean for the one that dont see the e220 | 18:55 |
| kbmonkey | those are the numbers that need to be added to the device database I spoke of earlier :) | 18:55 |
| kbmonkey | yes, for that one | 18:56 |
| Kilos | oh | 18:56 |
| Kilos | thats only on 12.04 | 18:56 |
| kbmonkey | you want the other way around? | 18:56 |
| Kilos | ill save that onna stick | 18:56 |
| Kilos | what you mean? | 18:56 |
| kbmonkey | those are the same numbers you see in "lsusb" by the way | 18:56 |
| kbmonkey | 0x12d1 and 1003 | 18:57 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 18:57 |
| Kilos | vendor and product | 18:57 |
| kbmonkey | so you can try the other modem on 13.?? if you run lsusb and replace those numbers accordingly (gulp) | 18:58 |
| Kilos | the other modem has different numbers | 18:58 |
| kbmonkey | I hope that helps you Kilos - sorry if that command looks very scary. | 18:59 |
| Kilos | 0000 was the product | 18:59 |
| Kilos | ty kbmonkey thats lekker | 18:59 |
| Kilos | its not serious, im not offline just need sim swop | 18:59 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:59 |
| kbmonkey | it tells your computer to see the usb device as a modem. like an order. | 18:59 |
| Kilos | aha | 19:00 |
| Kilos | even if the modem shows different numbers in lsusb? | 19:00 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 19:00 |
| kbmonkey | yes | 19:00 |
| kbmonkey | use the number in lsusb if you can | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | also try it before and after connecting the modem too. it might need the modem connected to run. | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | then remove and reconnect modem | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | like tuning spark plugs. engine must be running to tune it. haha. | 19:02 |
| kbmonkey | ..or not? | 19:02 |
| Kilos | ive tried the numbers in the modem but didnt reconnect it | 19:02 |
| kbmonkey | maybe I electrocute myself | 19:02 |
| Kilos | maybe thats where i went wrong | 19:02 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:02 |
| Kilos | you dont tune spark plugs man | 19:02 |
| kbmonkey | "no switching method given. Resetting usb device. Ok, device was reset. Run lsusb to note any changes. Bye."? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | where you read that? | 19:03 |
| kbmonkey | http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/386769-Vodacom-E220-Usb-Modem-on-Ubuntu-11-10?p=7333553&viewfull=1#post7333553 | 19:04 |
| Kilos | ty | 19:04 |
| kbmonkey | its not very helpful | 19:05 |
| Kilos | never mind man i fought modems since i got the arab one remember | 19:06 |
| Kilos | had to unlock it from ahab land too | 19:06 |
| Kilos | so im learning | 19:06 |
| Kilos | just slowly | 19:06 |
| Kilos | ty for the help kbmonkey | 19:08 |
| Kilos | i go sleep | 19:08 |
| Kilos | nag inetpro lekker slaap | 19:08 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 19:08 |
| kbmonkey | gn Kilos | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | good luck oom :) | 19:09 |
| Kilos | ty lad | 19:10 |
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