[05:15] o/ morning [05:19] Good morning everyone [05:25] morning superfly Private_User and others [05:25] morning Kilos,hows it going? [05:25] good ty and you? [05:26] ah not too bad [05:26] do you work from home doing web designs? [05:27] Morning everyone [05:27] hi bduk mazal [05:28] werk wget nou soos jy dit wil he mazal ? ek sien nog tips in die pos [05:29] yep I work from home [05:29] sometimes doing web design [05:29] wow how do you advertise? [05:30] Nope Kilos [05:30] aw [05:31] on the internet but currently need to set up my own website and once that is done I can do saome serious advertising/marketing [05:31] ah [05:40] good morning [05:41] ohi magespawn [05:41] hey Kilos [05:46] hi psychicist [05:51] haha the fools. telkom say their LTE is for areas where there is no adsl. liars. its all setup in cities [05:58] morning [05:59] and all on contract [05:59] hi Squirm [05:59] and Xethron [06:07] inetpro, http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/547017-Telkom-Mobile- [06:07] good morning Kilos [06:07] if your modem can do the 2300 frequency you can go lte [06:07] hi my friend [06:07] without a contract [06:08] magespawn: The Big Cat Sanctuary was worth it [06:08] thanks for that [06:08] Squirm, you are welcome [06:12] Kilos: I'm happy with my speed [06:12] ok [06:12] LTE will give me too much data too quickly [06:12] dont work too hard [06:13] i gotta do a reinstall here on unity to try get 12.04 working on the e220 [06:13] sigh [06:14] makes me wonder about the new unity if its also fast like the new kde [06:15] Kilos: but thanks for the info anyway [06:15] np [06:21] good morning [06:21] hi bmg505 long time no hear [06:22] ja man, life is getting in the way [06:22] haha [06:24] is that genuine life or this thing we call work? [06:25] nah RL and work, ffs its killing me one day at a time :) [06:25] ffs? [06:26] yanks just pasted this link and our internet connections chokes with it http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/308/b/d/untitled_317_by_dennisk4-d6t2m8t.gif [06:26] I'd rather meet my end happy living in a fruit paradize [06:26] tropical island in the sun [06:26] but then that would be a bloody boring end [06:26] hehe [06:41] wow, I have been treated well by vendors in the past [06:41] but the lengths juniper has gone to to try and convince us that they are the right partner... is fucking mindblowing [06:43] hiya maiatoday [06:44] bmg505 i can't get it either [06:59] mornings [07:00] Good mornin ! [07:06] hi ThatGraemeGuy gerritfromsa [07:07] hrm, this anonymous shit [07:07] is gonna get REAL interesting today [07:07] people already gathering in some pretty key locations and well, god knows how big this will get [07:08] and how much chaos will arise [07:08] long live anonymous [07:08] gerritfromsa heh anonymous is an interesting force, but on occasion, they can be... troublesome [07:09] hi tal0n Symmetria [07:09] hi all [07:09] it will always be the 1st group that do something that will make mistakes and get all the blame [07:09] what you on about Symmetria ? [07:09] hi Kilos [07:09] at least someone is doing something [07:09] kilos anonymous is planning on putting a million+ people marching in the streets today world wide [07:09] *HUGE* demonstrations planned [07:09] they are calling it the million mask march [07:10] for what goal? [07:10] and they have the numbers to actually do that [07:10] kilos general protest about censorship on the internet, violations of freedom, politics being played on the internet etc [07:10] aha [07:10] they are basically going out to say "leave the internet for those that use it, and keep your government style bullshit off it" [07:11] good luck to them and us [07:12] make sure you're surfing silent if youre using the word anonymous [07:31] anyone knows where can still find DDR2 server ram ? [07:39] hi Vince-0 [07:40] ask Symmetria gerritfromsa [07:40] hes a server network man [07:43] wbb. going to kde [07:45] hi! [07:47] hey Vince-0 [07:50] o/ hi Vince-0, oom kil, magespawn, maiatoday, gerritfromsa [07:51] what up nuvolari ? [07:52] nuvolari ! [07:54] * gerritfromsa is away: Hmmmm ... [08:30] hmm... [08:30] stupid 13.04 dont see my arab modem [08:32] and 12.04 dont see the other one [08:32] grrr [08:33] try fedora? [08:41] no man, i love ubuntu [08:42] no brain space to learn rpm stuffs too [08:44] noo just use package manager [08:44] just gotta find a way to hack into the E220 modem and turn off timeouts then i can use it through the router [08:44] I've been running Fedora on my laptop at work for over a year now no problems [08:45] better than kubuntu [08:46] i just cured the modem auto start i think with a script i was given for 12.04 [08:46] 13.04 mobile setup is too involved [08:47] tumbleweed: what section of the buntu dev work do you do? [08:47] good morning as well [08:47] Kilos: whatever I feel like - mostly archive maintainance [08:47] but these days, not too much [08:48] you still talk to them [08:48] occasionally [08:48] ask them not to make things more difficult. and try follow the lines like with 10.10 where everything just worked [08:49] hah [08:49] not to make things more difficult to setup [08:49] nobody is trying to make things more difficult [08:49] noobs get frightened away like that [08:50] sjoe you must see the involved setup needed to get 3g working [08:50] plug in, connect? [08:50] that's how it always used to work [08:50] not anymore [08:51] you used to get a popup about mobile broadband device detected, click to setup [08:51] thats gone [08:51] you only get that once, I think [08:53] maybe i missed it, install goes too fast [08:53] thats a very good thing. installs as fast as installing dos [08:53] hehe [09:51] Does somebody know how do I move an already opened app to another workspace ? [09:51] on 12.04 [09:53] Nevermind , found it [09:53] shift ctrl-alt-arrows? [09:53] I am so stupid [09:53] Forgot about the "hold super key in for shortcuts display " thing lol [10:43] tumbleweed: so, strace proved useful. I now know where the issue is occurring. Now to figure out how to fix it :-/ [10:47] what was it? [11:05] wb magespawn hi sakhi [11:16] aw poor maia has a bad connection [11:16] or a 5 min timeout [11:27] tumbleweed: basically, this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171 [11:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171/comments/47 [11:36] * gerritfromsa is back (gone 03:41:28) [12:33] Cheers everyone , enjoy your evening [13:07] \quit [14:24] hmm... [14:50] home time! [15:09] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYTkUhdCcAEnGkS.jpg:large [16:01] yay its summer time again. 17/34°c [16:01] Symmetria: ping [16:08] hey Private_User see here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu:Saucy#Hardware_requirements [16:08] looks like the new kubuntu can run on 384m ram minimum [16:09] or are you happy with lubuntu [16:11] i would not run kubuntu on less than 1gb of ram [16:31] me neither even though this one is fast [16:31] some things still open slowly even with 1.5g ram [16:32] but he also wants to install to his lappy so it should be great there [16:35] unless thats also only got 512m ram [16:50] 0/ lo [16:53] hi kbmonkey [16:53] hows my monkey [16:55] you got a tail Kilos- [16:55] oh my [16:55] sorry [16:56] are you a monkey too? === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [16:56] apie [16:56] if I lie down now I will fall asleep [17:08] me too [17:08] long day [18:01] hi psy [18:01] oh my [18:01] oh that was leaving not joining [18:01] twit [18:06] yup, you missed it man [18:07] better luck next time :] [18:14] haha [18:14] hi psychicist [18:14] you well apart from tired kbmonkey ? [18:14] hi Kilos [18:15] i got a pretty 13.04 kde. 10 workspaces each with a different wallpaper [18:15] and no blue [18:16] good work Kilos [18:16] haha [18:16] took long enough [18:17] I am sure, phew [18:17] too much of work that is for me. [18:21] yo aquarat [18:35] good evening [18:36] lo the pro [18:36] hello Kilos [18:36] hello inetpro [18:36] hehe [18:36] have you recovered from the late nights yet? [18:38] yeah i kinda good today ty and you? [18:38] tired [18:39] you do nothing all day how can you be tired [18:39] make the appies work harder [18:40] Kilos, having a nice rooi bos tea [18:40] good man [18:40] i just gotta still sort one prob here [18:40] unity sees my arab modem only and kde sees the e220 0nly [18:40] sigh [18:41] sounds like a missing udev rule [18:41] so drive swop means sim change as well [18:41] eish, [18:41] explain? [18:42] each usb device has a model code built into it. when you connect it, the kernel looks in it's little database for known device codes... [18:43] ok and then? [18:44] let me see.. [18:44] oh if i run lsusb on both it shows them there [18:45] kde even tries to dial out but fails everytime [18:45] but works perfect with the e220 [18:47] on the pc where e220 works run 'dmesg'. then do the same on the other os. compare. [18:48] you might see the one recognizes it's "zero-cd" a fake cd that has the windows setup files. it swithces over to modem mode. [18:48] but sometimes it won't switch and gets stuck on zero-cd mode [18:49] installing usb-modeswitch helps with this [18:49] i have that [18:50] anyway dont worry [18:51] i will try putting the e220 in the router and getting connected that way [18:51] ... [18:51] (net down?) [18:51] im sure both will accept that [18:51] eish [18:52] router rsting because i was getting timeouts then found it was the e220 not the router [18:53] so flash again and upgraded first to vmc that voda then then flashed and put mobile partner and it didnt timeout today [18:54] eish eish eish [18:54] it's modem makers not helping to keep their device codes up to date with our nice operating system :( [18:54] i see 13.10 only supported till dec this year [18:54] that sucks [18:54] Raring Ringtail is not an LTS (Long Term Support) release. It will be supported with security updates for both the desktop and server versions until December 2013. [18:55] sudo usb_modeswitch -v 0x12d1 -p 1003 -V 0x12d1 -P 1003 -R [18:55] and remove the modem and connect again. [18:55] ty i will save that [18:55] that only works until reboot [18:55] oh you mean for the one that dont see the e220 [18:55] those are the numbers that need to be added to the device database I spoke of earlier :) [18:56] yes, for that one [18:56] oh [18:56] thats only on 12.04 [18:56] you want the other way around? [18:56] ill save that onna stick [18:56] what you mean? [18:56] those are the same numbers you see in "lsusb" by the way [18:57] 0x12d1 and 1003 [18:57] oh ya [18:57] vendor and product [18:58] so you can try the other modem on 13.?? if you run lsusb and replace those numbers accordingly (gulp) [18:58] the other modem has different numbers [18:59] I hope that helps you Kilos - sorry if that command looks very scary. [18:59] 0000 was the product [18:59] ty kbmonkey thats lekker [18:59] its not serious, im not offline just need sim swop [18:59] haha [18:59] it tells your computer to see the usb device as a modem. like an order. [19:00] aha [19:00] even if the modem shows different numbers in lsusb? [19:00] sjoe [19:00] yes [19:01] use the number in lsusb if you can [19:01] also try it before and after connecting the modem too. it might need the modem connected to run. [19:01] then remove and reconnect modem [19:02] like tuning spark plugs. engine must be running to tune it. haha. [19:02] ..or not? [19:02] ive tried the numbers in the modem but didnt reconnect it [19:02] maybe I electrocute myself [19:02] maybe thats where i went wrong [19:02] hahaha [19:02] you dont tune spark plugs man [19:03] "no switching method given. Resetting usb device. Ok, device was reset. Run lsusb to note any changes. Bye."? [19:03] where you read that? [19:04] http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/386769-Vodacom-E220-Usb-Modem-on-Ubuntu-11-10?p=7333553&viewfull=1#post7333553 [19:04] ty [19:05] its not very helpful [19:06] never mind man i fought modems since i got the arab one remember [19:06] had to unlock it from ahab land too [19:06] so im learning [19:06] just slowly [19:08] ty for the help kbmonkey [19:08] i go sleep [19:08] nag inetpro lekker slaap [19:08] night all sleep tight [19:09] gn Kilos [19:09] good luck oom :) [19:10] ty lad