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wolfy1339dos? no, i'm in ubuntu00:00
gndlpLOL00:00
Andenhow do i make my own device for inputattach? because my keypad seems to be unsupported00:00
joosseewolfy1339, and it said "command not found"?00:00
wilee-nileedorian, It's subjective, an opinion not support.00:00
jhutchinswolfy1339: What's a lua script?00:00
wolfy1339lua00:00
joosseethats sounds like windows!00:00
wolfy1339lua is programming language00:00
gndlpits what you use to hack payday 2 duh LOL00:00
Fruckiwackijoossee, yeah, installed saucy desktop beside an existing fully encrypted archlinux system. Due to the manual decryption and preparation of lvm volumes Ubuntu did know about lvm/luks and so kernel/initramfs modules were missing00:01
Fruckiwacki*did not know00:01
zykotick9jhutchins: fyi, awesome(wm) uses a lot of lua00:01
dorianso a coke/pepsi question. what are the options? strongswan and racoon? (i've only used openbsd isakmpd)00:01
Fruckiwackijoossee, i thought /etc/crypttab is unneded as it seems to be on at least Arch00:01
joosseeFruckiwacki, ive never had to use it00:02
wilee-nileeFruckiwacki, saucy desktop?00:02
Fruckiwackiwilee-nilee, that whatever its called 13.10 release cd with live desktop00:02
joosseeFruckiwacki, theres a bug in previous versions of ubuntu, depending on display drivers, the screen asking u for the encrypted partition passwords doesnt display until you hit esc or start typing the password... does itlook like u r getting thoseprompts?00:02
wilee-nileeubuntu hehe00:03
Fruckiwackiyeah, Saucy Salamander00:03
joosseeFruckiwacki, oh off a live CD? I have no idea.. i dont mess with that... make a bootstick instead00:03
gndlpFruckiwacki: press the down arrow when that happens. That is the workaround00:03
joosseeupvote gndlp00:03
gndlpFruckiwacki: I have the same issue00:04
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FruckiwackiQuote: If you replace the entries in /etc/crypttab , make sure to update the initramfs ( update-initramfs -u -k all )00:04
Fruckiwackishould create one first :)00:05
joosseeFruckiwacki, this bug especially happens with multipleencryptedpartitions00:05
sam113101guys00:05
gr33n7007hWill settle for this one as it's pretty cheap if it doesn't work http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-STRIKE-PC-Gamepad-Black/dp/B00422IDJC/ref=pd_cp_vg_h__1#productDetails00:05
sam113101are icons broken for all of you, or is it just me?00:06
wilee-nilee!details | sam11310100:06
ubottusam113101: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:06
Fruckiwackiyeah thanks for the infos, will bear that in mind once i get (physical) access to the pc again :)00:06
joosseecan i tell my wifi signal strength from the command line?00:07
wilee-nileesam113101, Yeah everyones icons are broken, lol.00:07
sam113101wilee-nilee: really?00:07
gndlpsam113101: I had that happen once what version are you running?00:07
joosseeUNITY: Now with even less icons (tm)00:07
sam113101gndlp: 13.1000:08
wilee-nileesam113101, You have frontal lobes, access them. ;)00:08
gndlpI could never get my frontal lobes to mount :-(00:08
hitsujiTMOsam113101: what icons exactly and how are they broken?00:08
Rorysam113101: No, not really00:08
Rorysam113101: Does the issue remain when you log in as another user, or as the Guest user?00:09
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I get icons from the ambiance theme although I'm using radiance00:09
joosseebad grampa = hilarious btw00:09
wolfy1339hey how do i use chmod to apply the mode R on a file00:09
joosseeOH THE HUMANITY!!! HE HAS THE WRONG SET OF ICONS!!00:09
sam113101and when I use the ambiance theme I get icons from the radiance theme00:09
hitsujiTMOsam113101: in pcmanfm by any chance?00:09
sam113101hitsujiTMO: no, in the top bar, nautilus, etc.00:10
gndlpsam113101: try this run $sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-asset-pool then reboot00:10
sam113101I'm trying to take a screenshot00:10
jhutchinsjoossee: Yes.00:10
joosseejhattara, just iwconfig or is there something better?00:10
sam113101but I can't take one when there's a context menu opened… lol00:10
gndlpjoossee: bad grandpa so worth seeing?00:11
joosseegndlp, ya theres one scene in particular that is worth the wholemovie00:11
wolfy1339how do i use chmod to apply the mode R on a file00:11
joosseewolfy1339, by typing man chmod00:11
jhutchinsCould we maybe get back to ubuntu support, and possibly "if you don't have something helpful to say, don't say anything"?00:12
cfhowlett!topic00:12
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic00:12
joosseehey im just waiting around re: command for seeing wireless strength other than iwconfig?00:12
sam113101"Imgur is over capacity!"00:13
sam113101ok, here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/x388mxf.png00:13
sam113101see the icon?00:13
cfhowlettsam113101, you mean the signal strength, yes?00:14
sam113101cfhowlett: no, the keyboard layout00:14
sam113101there's a faint "Fr"00:14
cfhowlettsam113101, OK00:14
sam113101it's supposed to be dark gray, same as other icons00:14
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FloodBot1education_cfp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:15
kyle__Does anyone here using ldap authenticaion on 13.10?  I've got clients that have been using it through 12.04, but now I just get "failed to bind to LDAP server ldap:///someserver: Can't contact LDAP server" in my auth.log00:16
sam113101cfhowlett: here's another example: http://i.imgur.com/Ww5rWBS.png00:16
salamandre43025Hi all, I'm getting 'upgrade-modifier-motd' errors 28 and 35 when I try to boot 12.04LTS00:18
salamandre43025It's forcing a read-only filesystem and there is no documentation about it00:18
hitsujiTMOsalamandre43025: can you post you dmesg please00:20
sam113101hitsujiTMO: did you see my screenshots?00:20
hitsujiTMOsam113101: yup, what tool are you using to change them, gnome-twaek-tool?00:21
sam113101hitsujiTMO: it's a bug, it's not supposed to be this way00:21
sam113101I want to fix it00:21
hitsujiTMOsam113101: how did you install the theme?00:22
salamandre43025hitsujiTMO: No dice. No access to the whole file system, it's all happening before the spash on boot00:22
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I didn't, comes with ubuntu00:22
gndlpsalamandre43025: can you go into recovery mode?00:22
hitsujiTMOsam113101: did you install the icon set to the /usr/share/icons folder?00:23
Mapleyuse gnome-tweak-tool to set 'show icons in menu'00:23
Mapleysam113101, ^00:23
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I didn't install anything, I just expect everything to work00:23
salamandre43025gndlp: I can go into recovery mode, but it won't allow me to use jockey-text to switch the drivers back from what killed the boot00:24
hitsujiTMOsam113101: you must manually put the icons there. then set them in gnome-tweak-tool00:24
salamandre43025gndlp: because that's also read only00:24
sam113101hitsujiTMO: where am I supposed to get them?00:25
hitsujiTMOsalamandre43025: have you tried remounting the filesystem? sudo mount -o remount,rw /00:25
Dresk|LaptopHow would someone switch the default window manager at auto-login via files (not using the GUI?)  Trying my best to automate something00:26
gndlpsalamandre43025: can you try and get a log out of the machine?00:26
gndlpfrom recovery00:26
hitsujiTMOsam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool with apt-get  ...    then wherever you downloaded the theme to, it prob has an icons folder that you need to copy to /user/share/icons00:27
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I don't think you understand my problem00:27
sam113101maybe "icon" wasn't the word00:27
gndlpsalamandre43025: /var/log/dmesg is the one i want00:27
sam113101hitsujiTMO: there's supposed to be a check mark besides "show sidebar", well it's there but it's faint… it's supposed to be gray/black00:28
salamandre43025gndlp: checking now00:28
sam113101also a dot beside "by name"00:28
Mapleysam113101, probably your icon theme's colors clashing with your GTK+ theme00:29
sam113101Mapley: it happens even with a new user00:30
sam113101and it's a new installation00:30
Mapleysam113101, fresh settings?00:30
sam113101Mapley: yep00:30
MapleyEh, derp, I'm stumped.00:30
sam113101even crazier things happen when I plug my ipod in00:31
sam113101(seriously)00:31
gndlpipods are not cool man00:31
salamandre43025gndlp: command not found00:31
sam113101why would unity even care about my ipod00:31
hitsujiTMOsam113101: that sounds like a problem with the icon pack? again. did you install it to the right folder? are there any dependencies for the pack that need to be installed?00:31
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I didn't install anything00:32
gndlpsalamandre43025: oh lol i want you to cat it and paste the input to paste.ubuntu.com or take a pic of it with your phone something00:32
sam113101it's the default theme00:32
hitsujiTMOsam113101: so you want to change the theme to a theme that isn't installed?00:32
gndlpsalamandre43025: we are looking for something out of the norm00:32
sam113101hitsujiTMO: no, the theme isn't working correctly00:32
sam113101hitsujiTMO: alright, let me draw you something, lol00:33
hitsujiTMOsam113101: ok ... so have you at least installed gnome-tweak-tool?00:33
salamandre43025gndlp: not possible. Once again: unity is not booting. Splash is not loading. There is a driver errorr with Nvidia 319 updates and the read only file system is stopping me from fixing it from a command shell00:34
stercorI upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 Upgrade Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10.  I have a brick. Message: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)  I searched the Internet but the solutions mentioned GRUB.  I have LILO.  What to do?00:35
gndlpsalamandre43025: just run $ cat /var/log/dmesg00:35
James_EppI installed the package nvidia-319 as per steam's suggestion through the software center. After this, I cannot get a GUI up on my system. Is there any way I can remove this package without access to the live system?00:35
gndlpin your root terminal on recovery boot00:35
salamandre43025gndlp: and now it's forcing fsck to access tty00:35
PDilyardis there a way to save the currently open applications between reboots?00:35
gndlpsalamandre43025: that is normal let it do its thing00:36
harrisfor ubuntu touch on the status page why are there still two broken features for the nexus 700:36
PDilyardso when i reboot it just reopens my workspace to what it was before00:36
hitsujiTMOsam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool00:36
PDilyardv 12.04 btw00:36
sam113101hitsujiTMO: http://i.imgur.com/XLpuNou.png00:38
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hitsujiTMOsam113101: its faint because it doesn't contrast well with you icon theme, so you need to change your icon theme00:39
sam113101hitsujiTMO: what icon theme, man? it's the default one…00:40
hitsujiTMOsam113101: exactly.00:40
hitsujiTMOsam113101: the default icon theme is ... WHITE00:40
sam113101hitsujiTMO: if I log out and log back in it's alright00:40
sam113101how do you explain that? lol00:40
hitsujiTMOsam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool and set the icon theme to ubuntu-mono-light00:41
sam113101hitsujiTMO: it's set to ubuntu-mono-light already00:41
hitsujiTMOsam113101: how did you set it?00:42
kindlereinstall/00:42
kindleThat's advice from a noob, though00:42
sam113101hitsujiTMO: http://i.imgur.com/BOtouMP.png00:43
sam113101hitsujiTMO: right click on desktop -> change desktop background -> theme -> radiance00:43
sam113101that's how I did it00:43
sam113101it worked fine on 13.04 and I expect it to work on 13.10 too00:44
sam113101it's not supposed to be sorcery00:44
sam113101(not blaming you for it btw)00:44
gndlpyes sorcery is reserved for upstart00:44
tjbiddleNot ubuntu specific - but this is driving me insane. Why does xargs keep leading with whitespace? git branch -a | grep __ | awk '{print $1}' | sed -e 's/remotes\/origin\///g' | grep -v 'storm' | xargs -t -n1 git push origin :00:45
tjbiddleit keeps giving me something like `git push origin : mybranch`00:45
sam113101what about systemd?00:45
hitsujiTMOsam113101: ok, but you didnt do it in gnome-tweak-tool , like i told you to 5 million times :P ... when you do it normally, it just changes a var that gets read upon application start. gnome-tweak-tool sends out a message that forces certain apps to refresh that var.00:45
tjbiddlenot supposed to be a space between the colon and branch00:45
sam113101hitsujiTMO: just tried it, doesn't work00:46
sam113101it changes other icons00:46
sam113101but not the ones that are broken00:46
salamandre43025I might have  found a work around00:46
hitsujiTMOsam113101: that might be an app dependant issue, that that particular app isn't refreshing til it's restarted00:47
sam113101hitsujiTMO: it's not just nautilus, it's the bar, too00:48
sam113101*the bar*00:48
maujhsnLike to know if there is a dedictated freenode channel for "network-manager" issues!00:49
gimpygooHoly jeeeez! Kde is incredibly cool!00:50
gimpygooThanks for the advice on how to switch desktops..00:50
sam113101gimpygoo: it's not00:50
sam113101it's heavy and ugly00:50
gimpygooI like it better then unity so far...00:50
gimpygooso HA!00:50
sam113101really?00:50
gimpygooI think i just like the fact i was able to change it .00:51
gimpygoo:)00:51
hitsujiTMOsam113101: just tried it myself. those items changed for me under gnome-tweak-tool. they are not part of the icon theme but the gtk+ theme00:51
gimpygooIts awesome that you can change the entire way a computer looks and you didnt change the os out... and I can change it back.00:51
gimpygooIm falling in love with linux.... I feel amazed at my computer again.00:51
gimpygooAmazing.00:52
gndlpgimpygoo: I am worried about you based on what you just said and your nick00:52
gimpygoolol00:52
sam113101I kind of like and hate linux both at the same time00:52
gimpygoooh come on now :)00:52
gimpygooi just think its super cool.00:52
gimpygoothats all.00:52
gimpygooIt kills windows.00:52
maujhsngimpygoo What do you like most about ubuntu?00:53
sam113101I like the freedom it gives me, but I can only choose between buggy software00:53
sam113101but if you forget about anything graphical00:53
sam113101and forget about sound00:53
gimpygooI like the fact that Im fairly new and its not as scary as I thought it would be... I feel like I have the ability to change EVERYTHING... at least i will once I learn.00:53
sam113101etc., it's all good00:53
sam113101CLI is good on linux00:54
hnszgimpygoo: I dare you to install linux commandline only00:54
gimpygooCLI?00:54
gimpygoonaahh.. hnsz...00:54
sam113101command line interface00:54
gndlpgimpygoo: google linux from scratch00:54
gimpygooI installed the desktop environments using the terminal.00:54
gndlpand install it00:54
gimpygoo.... :)00:54
myndzii uhh.. have some upstart job that appears to be stuck in a reboot loop and can't stop or kill it00:54
myndzihalp?00:54
hnszgimpygoo: Or try commandline only in a virtual machine00:55
gimpygooNahh.. I dont wanna go backwards :)00:55
gndlpmyndzi: what is the job00:55
hnszgimpygoo: Otherwise you can always install w3m browser ;)00:55
myndzione i was trying to create00:55
alumno__s00:55
alumno__que hacen chicos00:55
alumno__qe decis kṕo00:55
alumno__hola00:56
myndzihttp://pastie.org/845586700:56
gndlpmyndzi: PEBKAC..... lol jk what stanzas do you have00:56
geniigimpygoo, myndzi, gndlp ... For extended conversation about non-upoort issues, please consider using #ubuntu-offtopic, especially whn other users are asking actual support questions in the channel.00:56
cfhowlett!es00:56
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.00:56
alumno__hay alguien00:56
gimpygoook.. Sorry genii.00:56
alumno__i dont speaking english00:56
cfhowlett!es|alumno__,00:56
ubottualumno__,: please see above00:56
alumno__i from argentina00:56
wafflejock!ubuntues | alumno__00:56
cfhowlett!ar|alumno00:56
ubottualumno: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe00:56
myndzii'm not sure if that's the exact version that got run00:57
wafflejockalumno__: /join #ubuntu-es00:57
wafflejockah argentina00:57
alumno__alguien habla español XD00:57
myndzibut it seems silly to me if i can't just tell it "abort and die"00:57
cfhowlettwafflejock, yep00:57
alumno__HOLA00:57
myndzii've removed the script entirely and it's just cycling through process ids ;\00:57
alumno__A TODOS00:57
hnszportugees*00:57
alumno__HOLA ALGUIEN DE AMERICA DEL SUR00:57
myndziwait, what? it finally stopped o_O00:58
alumno__???? XD00:58
sam113101hitsujiTMO: is there a channel more appropriate for bug solving/development of ubuntu?00:58
FloodBot1!netsplit00:58
hitsujiTMOmyndzi: remove the respawn from the conf00:58
alumno__???? XD00:58
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit00:58
hitsujiTMOmyndzi: remove the respawn from the conf00:58
alumno__HI I DONT SPEAK SPANISH00:58
sam113101hitsujiTMO: is there a channel more appropriate for bug solving/development of ubuntu?00:58
alumno__Quit00:58
sam113101goddamn netsplit00:58
hitsujiTMOsam113101: nothing more relevant than here00:58
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alex_so. should i replace ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu or xubuntu or kubuntu?00:58
alumno__hii00:59
gndlpmyndzi: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#respawn00:59
sam113101hitsujiTMO: I want someone to guide me through debugging something00:59
gndlpmyndzi: see if that helps00:59
alumno__i dont speak english00:59
cfhowlettalex_, my crystal ball is too dusty to tell me your needs or specs, so ... how the heck would we know what works best for you?00:59
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wafflejocksam113101: depending on what you're looking for support on you may find more direct support channels but this is usually a good place to start00:59
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hnszSouth Americans are so obnoxious. They seem to have not gotten the memo yet on how talking in all caps is like shouting.00:59
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hitsujiTMOmyndzi: don't add a respawn until you know the script is stable01:00
cfhowletthnsz, not helpful01:00
Picihnsz: thats not appropriate for this channel01:00
myndzii learned that the hard way, but i still need(ed?) to know how to abort the script01:00
sam113101wafflejock: when I reboot my computer and my ipod touch is plugged in, weird things happen, I don't know where to start looking01:00
myndziit seems to have resolved itself but if there's an emergency stop button i'd still like to know about it ;)01:00
hnszcfhowlett: Pici Fair enough. I guess I'm just happy to have gotten it out of my system.01:00
wafflejocksam113101: be more specific about weird things01:01
wafflejock!details | sam11310101:01
ubottusam113101: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:01
gndlpmyndzi: kill -9 pid:1 that has always worked for me01:01
hitsujiTMOgndlp: :P01:01
sam113101wafflejock: theme inconsistency, wallpaper doesn't span across multiple monitors, the font isn't right in some apps01:02
sam113101and all of those issues vanish when I unplug my ipod and reboot01:02
ryanpriorWhen I hit Ctrl+Alt+Shift+(Left|Right) I am able to move windows to workspaces left or right. However, substitute (Up|Down) and nothing happens. Can anybody else reproduce this? Is it a bug or did they change the way keybindings work?01:02
sam113101I don't know why it would happen01:03
sam113101it doesn't make sense01:03
cfhowlettsam113101, so the OBVIOUS solution is ...01:03
wafflejocksam113101: do you encounter issues if you boot with it not plugged in but then plug it in?01:03
jhutchinssam113101: dmesg and /var/log/messages are where to start.01:03
jhutchinssam113101: Possibly Xorg.0.log or wherever the xserver logs these days.01:04
sam113101wafflejock: no, and if I log out and log back in, the issues vanish, too01:04
sam113101without rebooting01:04
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scottyobHowdy, I'm looking at seeing what users a package creates.  How would I go about this for the package say, 'rancid'01:04
jhutchinssam113101: So it's a GUI issue.01:04
sam113101config --replace also fixes the issues01:05
sam113101IIRC01:05
hitsujiTMOscottyob: as in: dpkg -L <package>01:05
sam113101jhutchins: compiz bug? unity bug? light dm bug?01:06
jhutchinshitsujiTMO: I believe that just shows files.01:06
scottyobhitsujiTMO: that shows all the files (handy)01:06
hitsujiTMOscottyob: woops, never read your question propperly01:06
jhutchinssam113101: Yes, probably.01:06
wafflejocksam113101: you may want to re-install your DE, but digging into logs is probably the only way you'll really see what's going wrong, as others have stated here quite a few places to check01:06
jhutchinssam113101: Probably not the dm.01:06
sam113101ok01:06
sam113101could it be the x server itself?01:06
jhutchinssam113101: Yes.01:07
sam113101brb, I'll investigate the thing01:07
sam113101wish me luck01:07
wafflejocksam113101: godspeed01:07
hitsujiTMOscottyob: you'd have to see the init scripts in the package itself afaik01:08
jhutchinssam113101: Sounds like you should be able to figure it out, document it if you can.01:09
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maujhsnubottu Can you send me help commands?01:11
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maujhsnubottu Hmmmm!01:12
x_roothey, i'm tryin' to mount a partition at startup01:13
x_roottried through the disk utility but this gives the permissions just to the root user..01:14
x_rooti give this up and tried the "normal" way by mounting by myself.. if i copy 'n paste the info from mount01:14
hitsujiTMOx_root: man fstab01:14
x_rootof this unity in the disk utility, can happen any problem?01:15
x_rooti know, but seems that can't be used without the UUID, which for some odd reason don't appear01:15
wafflejock!fstab | x_root01:16
ubottux_root: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions01:16
wafflejockx_root: The device/partition (by /dev location or UUID) that contain a file system.01:16
wafflejock!UUID | x_root01:18
ubottux_root: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:18
maujhsndr_willis How are you? It's been ages since I've communicated in #ubuntu!01:19
hitsujiTMOx_root: you can also get the UUID of a drive with: sudo blkid01:19
scottyobcheers hitsujiTMO01:19
wafflejockubottu has it all covered :)01:19
ubottuwafflejock: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:19
hitsujiTMObeat me to it :P01:19
x_rootthanks, blkid show01:19
PDilyardok i just got whatever the linux equivalent of a blue screen of death is01:20
wafflejockif only I could ubottu !buildAngularJSWebApplication although with yeoman.io it's getting close01:21
wafflejockPDilyard: kernel panic01:21
wafflejock?01:21
PDilyardscreen just went gray and sat there01:21
PDilyardim not sure what it was01:21
PDilyardbut i couldnt get out of it without powering off01:21
wafflejockCtrl+Alt+F1 will get you to a terminal if your X server poops out or DE is generally locked01:21
PDilyardok01:22
wafflejockPDilyard: were you able to boot back up okay?01:22
PDilyardyep everything seems normal01:22
PDilyarddo you think its anything to worry about?01:22
PDilyardi just installed yesterday01:22
PDilyardon this machine01:22
hitsujiTMOPDilyard: it was probably just the xserver choking on something01:23
PDilyardi see01:23
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah wouldn't worry unless it's happening consistently01:23
PDilyardok thank you01:23
hitsujiTMOPDilyard: if it happens again: thats when you need to worry01:23
PDilyardright01:24
wafflejockPDilyard: always good to back up though once you feel things are stable01:24
PDilyardyeah well the only stuff i have on this drive is windows, ubuntu, and some stuff thats on github01:24
wilee-nileePDilyard, you want to aware of, rather then a hard shutdown if possible.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key01:24
wilee-nilee!reisud01:24
PDilyardmy other drive has all important files on it01:25
PDilyardok01:25
wilee-nilee!reisub01:25
ubottuIn an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key01:25
wafflejockPDilyard: good move on the dedicated drives for OS vs data makes things easier I'm sure01:25
PDilyardwafflejock, yeah the OS drive is a 256GB SSD, the files drive is a 1TB HDD01:26
wilee-nileePDilyard, You have the ssd using a trim setup?01:26
PDilyardwhat do you mean? lol01:26
wilee-nilee!trim01:26
wafflejockPDilyard: will hopefully do that in my next laptop, for now just on a 128GB SSD, have an external NAS I backup to occasionally but really not making the best use of it... need to get rsync setup with cron but have been too lazy so far... mostly sync stuff to a remote git server too though so not too concerned01:27
wilee-nileeheh not in the bot, hold on01:27
daftykinsTRIM maintains your SSD by purging outdated 'dirty' blocks of data01:27
daftykinsfor data cannot be edited, only programmed or erased.01:27
wilee-nileePDilyard, Here is one I use, there are many on the web get a modern one, most are the same basically. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd01:28
wilee-nileePDilyard, Not necessarily attached to a fail as you describe but a tool you want to use.01:29
PDilyardok i'll look into it01:29
PDilyardthanks for the tip01:29
wilee-nileeI have a 256 gig ssd as my HD01:29
hitsujiTMOwilee-nilee: please tell me you didn't use noatime?01:29
PDilyardwilee-nilee, just follow all the steps on that page?01:30
wilee-nileePDilyard, Read carefully there is a section on a seperate home and a couple of options is all.01:30
hitsujiTMOPDilyard: where it says noatime use relatime instead01:30
PDilyardmmmk01:31
wilee-nileeI thin k it is fairly understandable but feel free to ask here if needed.01:31
wafflejockhitsujiTMO: what makes using noatime so bad? don't have it setup here and just read up on relatime so that makes sense but wondering what in particular breaks without the updated atime values?01:33
hitsujiTMOwafflejock: some apps use the atime, so using noatime breaks them. relatime has all the benefits of noatime and none of the cons.   some stuff that break are things like some mail tools, some backup tools, tmpwatch. most break silently, such that you'll ever see why its breaking so it can make those tools harder to debug.01:37
wafflejockhitsujiTMO: yeah was thinking backup programs but just curious.. thx will go relatime on this too then01:38
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hitsujiTMOwafflejock: popularity-contest uses it: http://popcon.ubuntu.com01:41
kriskropddoes anyone here use fbgs? can I use fbgs inside xorg to view pdfs? I'm getting this error "Unrecoverable error: undefined in .getdeviceparams"01:45
lecoeuskriskropd: i really don't think so01:48
lecoeuskriskropd: try zathura01:49
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lolhiimchrisUpgraded to 13.1 and can't connect to wifi anymore. Network shows up in the list, but it just repeatedly asks me for the password. Using an Encore Wireless N300 PCI. When I type lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net it shows rtl8192ce. Any ideas why it just won't connect? Currently on windows trying to figure it out.01:52
wilee-nileelolhiimchris, Can you boot to it and use another way to communicate, from windows is a hassle.01:53
wilee-nileejust a suggestion is all01:54
lolhiimchrisI can try to get on IRC on my phone, I wiped the ubuntu installation and put Windows back on because I needed a functional computer, so all I can do is boot into a LiveCD01:55
lolhiimchrisbut even on the live it doesn't connect01:55
XLVlolhiimchris use wired eth till you figure it out01:56
wilee-nileelolhiimchris, Ah, no actual install, well not sure what to say, realtec is a hassle they don't have linux drivers take a look here, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=rtl8192ce01:56
TrDhi all01:56
TrDi have a problem with my Wireless interface01:57
TrDit say connected but no internet01:57
wilee-nilee!details | TrD01:57
ubottuTrD: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."01:57
lolhiimchrisis there any reason it would just break like that though? it worked perfectly fine in 13.04 and the 12.04 LTS version works fine as well01:58
lolhiimchrisi'm assuming it's kernel related?01:58
wafflejockTrD: can you ping your router?01:58
TrDone second please wafflejock01:58
TrDyes i can wafflejock01:58
wilee-nileelolhiimchris, realtec have no linux drivers all that work are reverse or nd wrappers, I would get one that just works, these are one of the worst in general.01:59
wafflejockcan you nslookup an address01:59
LittleRedPanda(lurking for INFO324 anyone ?)01:59
TrDone sec please01:59
phixhey, in apparmor what is the difference between /var/lib/ and /var/lib/** when specifying a directory?01:59
maicodfor ubuntu 12.04 in what path are the static quicklist entries stored ?01:59
phixis ** mean all files in that directories? or recursive including directories and files within them?02:00
phixor is that what / means?02:00
TrDi cant wafflejock02:00
wilee-nileelolhiimchris, Just no real support is what you can assume.02:00
PDilyardwilee-nilee, is this a good option from TRIM? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html02:02
PDilyardthe cron job section02:02
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wafflejockTrD: can you ping 8.8.8.802:03
wafflejockit's a public DNS from google02:03
maicodhi I want to edit the command that loads the terminal from the Ubuntu 12.04 Quicklist (the side bar) . where is te config file located ?02:03
wafflejockTrD: if you can ping that you have a connection to the outside and DNS is breaking down somewhere if you can't ping that you may need to check out your WAN connection on the router, do you have other devices connected?02:04
wilee-nileePDilyard, That is the same as the link I gave you.02:04
PDilyardah ok02:04
PDilyardhaha sorry02:04
wilee-nileePDilyard, Basically, after you do this a couple of times it becomes more recognizable, I have 3 Linux installs so have done it a few times.02:05
phixok so does any one know all about apparmor?02:05
PDilyardi see02:05
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TrDyes i'm connected with a 3G dongle now wafflejock02:05
wilee-nilee!details | phix02:06
ubottuphix: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."02:06
wafflejockTrD: I mean are any other devices connected through the router, sorry for not specifying I realize you're here :)02:06
wilee-nileephix, You will know if you spell out the issues02:06
wafflejockphix generally speaking ** is all subdirectories02:07
wafflejock!apparmor | phix02:07
ubottuphix: For information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor02:07
phixwilee-nilee: I have already above, I got no answer so instead of repeating the question I bumped it :)02:07
phixwafflejock: thank you, that is all I wanted to know02:07
wilee-nileephix, Cool I missed that.02:08
kakakalhi alll, i have a dual boot system with win8 in it, i was comparing copy speed of my pendrive, pendrive file system is fat32 and it took 40 seconds to copy 2.8 Gb data in windows 8, then i tried same pendrive, in same port in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ext4 , desktop, it took 52 seconds to copy same data, why ext4 is slow as compared to NTFS and i tried the same with nautilus, dolphin and pcmanfs, all of them produced same results,02:08
wilee-nileekakakal, Not much can be done to speed this up I would not really spend to much time on it.02:09
phixwilee-nilee: If you are interested, apparmor is stopping bind from running when using samba4 in DLZ mode, I read the samba4 wiki first however it failed to mention I need MMAP and LOCK permissions on some of the libraries and ldb files.02:09
phixwilee-nilee: I now have it working :D  You would of thought the sernet packages would of included a samba apparmor file02:09
kakakalwilee-nilee: i am trying to prove that ubuntu is better than win8, but it is lagging02:10
wilee-nileephix, I never have messed with appamour02:10
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kakakallagging in terms of small benchmarks02:10
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wilee-nileekakakal, They both have a good, bad and ugly side, you can't empirically prove one is better than the other overall.02:10
wilee-nileethey have their individual uses02:11
kakakalwilee-nilee: it is okay that, it will not take much time but performance is performance, when hardware is capable of doing it, it should utilize the hardware to its fullest02:11
phixwilee-nilee: well it is on by default since Ubuntu 7.10 :)02:12
wafflejockkakakal: I'm sure this depends on a lot of factors you may be able to use iotop to glean some more information about the details of your disk access also some of the steps wilee-nilee had suggested above on mounting using relatime in fstab and the like may affect things02:12
wilee-nileeI think that goes in the Martin Luther King "I Have a Dream" category02:12
wilee-nileephix, On but blocked unless tweaked02:12
kakakalwafflejock: why not mount them automatically, without user's consent if performance can be improved this way02:13
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wafflejockkakakal: it depends on your use case scenario and they aren't going to have something in the system defaults that isn't going to work for everyone is my best guess02:14
wafflejockkakakal: I agree with wilee-nilee pretty much on this though there are bigger picture issues than a small performance gain on a huge data transfer depending on what your pitching it being used for02:14
kakakalthink about it, i am a normal user, a windows user and trying ubuntu first time, i will not such kind of tweaks or will get tired of somethings like that, because i never did such things,02:15
kakakal2.8G is normal now a days,02:15
buuOk why did my wireless suddenly turn into 24mbps02:16
daftykinsrate adaptive?02:16
buuIt was 480mbps last night02:16
KillBiebsI believe only users who want to know all the tweaks will really get the most out of linux. I am learning and it seem's like every little thing requires tweaking but I know once I get it configured right I will have uptimes of 100+ days02:16
buudaftykins: What's that?02:16
wafflejockkakakal: being a pretty hardcore windows user in the past I can tell you I ended up getting into the registry and system internals plenty of times02:16
daftykinsbuu: wireless connections change data speed depending on throughput typically02:16
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buudaftykins: I mean, when I run wget I'm only getting 24mbps02:17
daftykinsoic02:17
Skaparehas anyone installed either 13.10 or 12.04.3 on an 'ASUS Republic of Gamers G750JH-DB71 17.3" Notebook' ? ... I'm looking at maybe buying one of these and wonder if Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) will work on it with support for all the things (video, wifi, audio, etc) ... I'm looking at buying one of those (and not leave Windows 8 on it)02:17
daftykinspoor articulation sir!02:17
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kakakalwafflejock: most of peoples are not developer here, they are here to do their day to day task, like office and social media02:18
buudaftykins: One of the many amusing points is I get 24mbps ... with or without the antennas connected to the card. Heh.02:18
wafflejockkakakal: not to mention years of fixing driver issues for people, there are problems with all computer systems, most regular users really don't care about 12 seconds on a 2.8GB transfer, day to day I download e-mails listen to music and do development tasks and use git02:18
wafflejockkakakal: are they transferring DVDs on the regular?02:18
buuYou'd think three 8in antennas would make a slight difference02:18
kakakalsometask are fulfilled, some are at very down side, although alternative exists02:18
wafflejockkakakal: agree there are defintiely pitfalls to every system I've ever used02:19
lindarI'm about to headbutt a nail here. I've just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and now Anthy (Japanese) isn't working. Here's the weird thing, though... if I click on the Unity jigger at the top left and type in the search box, it works just as intended, but literally nowhere else will it input Japanese. Ideas?02:20
wafflejockkakakal: which covers quite a bit, SuSe, RedHat, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, OS X, MS-DOS up around 5.x, Windows 3.1 95, 98, XP, Vista, 7, 802:20
wafflejockkakakal: I've been through a lot of systems over time and not one is the silver bullet which is why they're still in competition and developing02:21
kakakalwafflejock: you are right, nothing is completely perfect but we can try to get best of it. Like facebook video calling isn't available, alternative exist in the world like skype, but why the all other people will signup and go to skype, when video call is directly available to them in their chat window02:21
wafflejockkakakal: I use Google Hangouts, I try to use services that are just available everywhere02:21
wafflejockkakakal: lots of great web based tools for sharing now that work regardless of system02:22
buuCan anyone give me some pointers as to how to fix the world's slowest fucking wifi connection?02:22
buuSpeed or rate or something?02:23
wafflejockkakakal: I also use DropBox (easy intergration everywhere) and Google Docs for collaborating with others to avoid the whole e-mailing documents rigamarol (sp?) and dealing with compatibility issues02:23
kakakalwhat if, when your friends doesn't use hangouts, it hardly works on slow internet connections02:23
Skaparelindar: no one on #ubuntu-jp knows about it?02:23
wilee-nileekakakal, One argument for open source or linux is it's generally safer, windows can be run safe however I rarely meet someone who is.02:23
lindarSkapare: I didn't know that was a thing.02:23
Skaparelindar: give it a try and see if02:24
kakakalwilee-nilee: libre office starts biting dust when it comes in front of office 2010 or 2013, microsoft has set standards in office02:24
Skaparelindar: you might need to explain why you cannot talk in Japanese there :)02:24
wafflejockkakakal: the 2010 office document format is open source the files are just zip files with a bunch of XML inside, I haven't had problems with interoperability with LibreOffice but again I just prefer online collaboration over time wasted e-mailing documents and trying to merge things02:25
kakakallicensing is the issue, but when people use it for free, (Pirated, why they will move to open source, only one argument, it is better, then we must prove them it is better, whether it is file transfer speed or anything else02:26
darkside_I'm trying to install the game "Ragnarok Online" but it's not working. I tried several tutorials from the internet, but did not succeed. My system is: Xubuntu 10.13 ... please someone help me.02:26
kakakalwafflejock: google docs is a good service02:26
trismlindar: did you add Japanese (Anthy) in the Text Entry settings? it is a new setup in 13.10, I had to add Japanese (mozc) before it worked02:26
cfhowlettdarkside_, get support from the game producers?02:27
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kakakalwafflejock: i am using it only to some extent02:27
lindartrism: Yes, I did. You see, Anthy actually works in the Unity search bar. I can type Japanese in there, and the shortcut key to switch roma/kana actually works.02:27
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lindartrism: It doesn't work anywhere else, though.02:27
wafflejockkakakal: yeah I'm lucky in that I'm starting my own thing so I'm not having to deal with all the migration issues you'll  face with moving a windows shop over02:27
Guest1302hola02:28
cfhowlett!es|Guest1302,02:28
ubottuGuest1302,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.02:28
trismlindar: strange, not sure then, I haven't tried anthy in 13.10 yet02:28
kdelwatI've been using 13.10 for a while now and the sound was working fine, however, since using it as a host system to build Linux for Scratch (don't know if it's related) the sound has stopped working completely. I encountered system errors on startup, but now they've disappeared. I've tried force-reloading alsa and removing and reinstalling both alsa and pulseaudio. Does anybody know what the problem could be?02:28
wafflejockkakakal: google docs has been pretty fantastic though... between that google drive, dropbox, springpad and slimtimer I have a pretty good workflow that is basically all online02:28
wilee-nileekakakal, I would agree on documents, I started on linux, however I use word to write my grad papers, as I said they both have their uses. This is a ubuntu support channel, you have another user who consistently does not follow off tropic rules here notice this.02:28
lindartrism: I'll have to try mozc.02:28
wilee-nileetopic*02:29
kevinhey guys. so, i am using my ubuntu desktop workstation as user 'Kevin' but i have another user that i use to share some files over sshfs. since technically that user is logged in, i can't do a normal shutdown as Kevin because another user is logged in, so i have to do it as root. any way around this?02:30
kevinand by 'normal shutdown', i mean, clicking the upper right corner of the desktop in the panel (i use gnome classic) and choosing 'Shut Down'02:31
Skaparejust logout then shutdown02:31
wilee-nileekevin, just logout, they login in the same area right?02:32
darkside_cfhowlett - actually the official maintainer of this game does not support linux ... 've seen several tutorials but even old users who have had success using the "Wine"02:32
cfhowlett!wine|darkside_, great! see wine support02:32
ubottudarkside_, great! see wine support: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:32
itnetsecdarkside:  maybe you should look into using wine then - did you research it at all?02:33
kevinhmmmmmmm02:33
darkside_thanks !02:35
PDilyardwilee-nilee, wafflejock: ok guys it froze again...but this time the screen didnt go grey, it just froze and i couldnt move the mouse or use the keyboard02:36
wilee-nileeahh shh kevin, I did not catch that02:36
wafflejockPDilyard: still have it running right now?02:37
PDilyardyes02:37
wafflejockPDilyard: go ahead and try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal02:37
buuWhat's the difference between broadcom-source and broadcom-dkms?02:37
wafflejockPDilyard: more than likel you're going to want to just re-install your DE, might be worth trying to back up your XOrg config though and just regenerate it too to see if it helps02:38
wilee-nileePDilyard, is it swapping?02:38
seliteGuys, can someone help me with adding code on github?02:38
seliteThis shit is rocket science.02:39
wafflejockselite: there is a #git channel but whats your problem?02:39
quickdry21any upstart gurus have thoughts on this? https://gist.github.com/quickdry21/731284102:39
cfhowlett!language|selite,02:39
ubottuselite,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:39
wafflejockselite: also try to mind the swearing channel rules it's public global and all ages02:39
selitewafflejock: Well, I have a folder filled with awesome code and I want to push it github. Is there an easy way to do this.02:39
selitewafflejock: Sorry about that. : (02:39
DareDevil_Does anybody knows how to fix the issue with ubuntu 12.04 and the retarded network-manager. I cannot connect to the internet because of the stupid error cable unplugged.02:40
DareDevil_dhclient eth0 does not work02:40
buuWhat exactly does broadcom-sta-source even do?02:40
DareDevil_Uninstall network-manager totally screw up the internet connection02:40
DareDevil_not even interfaces showing up in the ifconfig command02:40
wafflejockselite: generally speaking when I've used github.com I'll create the repository remotely check it out then move files into the folder where I checked it out, then add commit and push the changes02:41
PDilyard_wafflejock, im supposed to login with my normal user and pass in that terminal, right?02:41
cfhowlett!broadcom|buu,02:41
ubottubuu,: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:41
wafflejockPDilyard_: correct02:41
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PDilyardwafflejock, it didnt seem to let me02:41
DareDevil_Help with the network-manager cable unplugged issue in 12.04 please02:41
PDilyardmaybe num lock turned off somehow02:41
PDilyard?02:41
wafflejockPDilyard: it definitely will if you got user and password right02:41
selitewafflejock: My god this is so complicated.02:41
selitewafflejock: Ok, thanks.02:41
PDilyardwafflejock, ok. and then how can i get out of that terminal once im in?02:42
sam113101why does ubuntu keep turning off my monitors ;[02:42
wafflejockselite: recommend you check out http://git-scm.com/book/en/Getting-Started and http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/02:42
wafflejockPDilyard: Ctrl+Alt+F7 will get you back to the display that X is using by default02:43
selitewafflejock: Thank you sir.02:43
buucfhowlett: I've read that =[02:43
PDilyardwafflejock: ok, and what would you like me to do in there?02:43
wafflejockselite: np godspeed02:43
wafflejockPDilyard: in the terminal you can backup your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file and make a new one, so you're in there now?02:43
PDilyardno02:44
cfhowlettbuu, make it easy.  state exactly what issue you'r dealing with.  asking seemingly random, unrelelated questions leads to madmess02:44
PDilyardim talking to you on the same computer02:44
sam113101why does ubuntu keep turning off my monitors? ;[02:45
CrazyZurfergot an update downloaded and the internet went off for a sec, The updates software thinks it was downloaded correctly but it keeps failing in the moment of upgrading, this update is "librhythmbox-core7", anyway to delete that update and download it again?02:45
cfhowlettsam113101, check your power  settings02:45
sam113101cfhowlett: they look good02:45
cfhowlettsam113101, specifically behavior such as "shutdown if inactive for x minutes"02:45
sam113101it all looks good02:46
PDilyardwafflejock: brb02:46
sam113101"turn screen off when inactive for: Never"02:46
lindarI think I've figured it out maybe, because I'm using mozc and it's still not working. I think the correct fonts aren't installed, and that's why it won't type in terminal/chrome/etc.02:46
cfhowlettsam113101, so EXTERNAL monitors shutdown?02:46
Skapareit looks like from many postings found by google, ASUS ROG machines are failing widespread on 13.10 ... I wonder if that means 12.04.3 will not work on it, too02:46
PDilyardwafflejock: ok, what do you want me to do in the terminal. im talking to you on my laptop now02:46
sam113101cfhowlett: it's a desktop computer, I have two monitors02:47
sam113101not sure what external means in that context02:47
sam113101they really turn off, they don't just display a black image02:47
wafflejockPDilyard: alright so you're going to want to cd /etc/X11/02:47
cfhowlettsam113101, I've never done the multi-desktop configuration.  Best you ask someone else.02:47
PDilyardwafflejock: ok hang on, i cannot login for some reason02:48
buucfhowlett: Sorry, I've been reading wiki pages for a while now. For some reason my wireless connection has dropped down to 24-32mbps, tested via wget. A laptop next to the ubuntu machine gets 500mbps+ on the same network with the same file02:48
PDilyardi type in my username, press enter, type my password and it says login incorrect :(02:48
wafflejockPDilyard: did you get the X display back up by rebooting already if so you can do some of this from a terminal emulator instead of from the console here02:49
buucfhowlett: The ubuntu machine was happily doing 400mbps+ lastnight then I restarted, it, heh.02:49
cfhowlettbuu, sorry, not something I can address02:49
wafflejockPDilyard: not sure whats up with login though02:49
sam113101why am I the only one having issues with 13.10?02:49
buu=[02:49
wafflejocksam113101: not true how long have you been in this chat?02:49
PDilyardwafflejock: yeah, i originally restarted to get the X display back02:49
wafflejocksam113101: lots of wireless issues I'm hearing... haven't hit upgrade because of it... going to definitely be backing up before upgrading02:50
lindartrism: I think I don't have the correct fonts installed, because it's doing the exact same thing (types japanese in the unity search bar and nowhere else) with mozc. I think I'm missing a font. Do you know which and how to install it?02:50
wafflejockPDilyard: okay you can just Ctrl+Alt+T if you're in the X display (Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back there if not) the Ctrl+Alt+T will open a terminal emulator02:51
PDilyardwafflejock: yep im there and i change dirs into /etc/X1102:51
wafflejockPDilyard: so you should backup the existing Xorg.conf02:53
wafflejockcp sudo Xorg.conf Xorg.conf.bak02:53
wafflejockthat came out wrong02:53
wafflejocksudo cp Xorg.conf Xorg.conf.bak02:53
PDilyardsays no such file02:53
opc0d3hey guys, i had a server compromised and it had a weak ROOT password.  i was wondering. is it possible for an attacker to ssh root@server.com, get the public key, and then try to do a brute force or dictionary attack offline?  once they find the root pass they reconnect?02:53
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|opc0d3,02:54
ubottuopc0d3,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server02:54
opc0d3so, is that a yes or no?02:55
opc0d3can you do an offline ssh password attack?02:55
quickdry21opc0d3: If they can access /etc/passwd (which they could, as root)02:55
opc0d3quickdry21: no, they couldn't get that... just ssh@server.com... theres no way to crack the root pass offline right?02:56
PDilyardwafflejock: Xorg.conf doesnt exist in /etc/X11 for me02:56
pogiakohello people ;)02:56
quickdry21if they can ssh root@server.com, they can scp root@server.com:/etc/passwd /local/file02:56
cfhowlettpogiako, greetings02:56
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah for sure... huh so apparently this is moved... not sure how I haven't seen this recently http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html02:56
pogiakoi come in peace, how about u?02:56
wafflejockPDilyard: ah wrong link http://askubuntu.com/questions/304091/wheres-the-xorg-conf-d-in-13-04 I'm falling apart over here :)02:57
cfhowlettpogiako, great.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?02:57
PDilyardwafflejock: haha np02:57
kakakalhi all, i am trying my hand on ureadahead, whether it is actually working or not, how to know that? i put a command02:57
kakakalureadahead --force-trace02:57
kakakalnow terminal is not doing anything02:57
PDilyardwafflejock: i just dont want to kill my brand new ssd02:57
pogiakonah, just came by to say hi to our beatiful ubuntu people ;)02:57
quickdry21opc0d3: sorry, it's /etc/shadow, not /etc/passwd, but same concept02:57
opc0d3quickdry21:  they can't get a shell because they dont know the root password... im wondering if SSH key exchange gives some sort of hash that can be cracked offline to find the root pass?02:58
kakakalit pops up a message that counted 2 CPUS02:58
kakakalthat 's it and terminal cursor stopped blinking02:58
PDilyardwafflejock: ok, im in /usr/share/X1102:58
quickdry21opc0d3: how was your server compromised then?02:59
PDilyardwafflejock: is this a possibility? http://www.howtoeverything.net/linux/hardware/ubuntu-freeze-issue-after-ssd-upgrade03:00
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opc0d3quickdry21: i have no idea.  the database was dropped, and some bitcoin were stolen.  maybe it was an SQL injection or bug in my code ;(03:01
opc0d3using  FuelPHP03:01
wafflejockPDilyard: not sure about that... just trying to find some updated instructions for getting the X config now03:01
Nautilusanyone around that can help with spamassassin setup?03:01
wafflejockPDilyard: the old way would just be Xorg -configure03:02
wafflejockPDilyard: you on 13.04 or 13.10?03:02
PDilyardwafflejock: im on 12.0403:02
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wafflejockPDilyard: ah okay03:02
noagoreNautilus, go to linode library03:02
PDilyardwafflejock: i have 7.49 GB of swap, so i dont think thats a problem03:03
quickdry21opc0d3: to get root access to your server via. ssh, they need a way to access your server via ssh (password or key based authentication), and then root access on the server itself. they could get root access by having ssh allowing root login via. password (so ssh root@example.com), root login via. key (ssh root@example.com w/ them having the privat03:04
quickdry21e key with a public key allowed in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys) or user login (same method as last) that has access to the root password, or is allowed by sudo03:04
Nautilusnoagore: looks like they just point to http://spamassassin.apache.org/03:04
wafflejockPDilyard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69076003:05
FukUmistwhat is the best Offline dictionary for Ubuntu? Artha isn't that good03:05
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah I doubt the SSD thing is your issue, unless you see very similar symptoms I wouldn't assume it's one bug or another, people experience various crashes and performance problems for different reasons (software/hardware combinations)03:05
wafflejockPDilyard: looks like everyone basically suggests what I passed you on that last link which is basically to do a few things to shutdown X then to run dpkg-reconfigure to setup the X file I guess now... not sure when this changed03:06
CrazyZurfergot an update downloaded and the internet went off for a sec, The updates software thinks it was downloaded correctly but it keeps failing in the moment of upgrading, this update is "librhythmbox-core7", anyway to delete that update and download it again?03:07
PDilyardwafflejock: both times its happened i've had Sublime Text and Chrome open in one workspace, Pandora open in another workspace, and Thunderbird and Xchat open in a third workspace03:07
cfhowlett!best|FukUmist,03:07
ubottuFukUmist,: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:07
PDilyardwafflejock: so there were several processes running, but none of them heavy03:07
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, I believe the command you want sudo apt-get upgrade -f             (-f to force the issue)03:08
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah I switched off of Unity because I was having some issues with the desktop not loading up entirely on first login, that was 13.04, I installed KDE side by side with Unity (lots of extra packages) then decided I like it better backed up and went with a fresh kubuntu install03:08
FukUmistcfhowlett are there any other Offline dictionaries other than Artha, which just seems to be a basic thesaurus03:08
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: Errors were encountered while processing:03:08
CrazyZurfer /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb03:08
CrazyZurferE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:08
wafflejockalso really liked KDE once I checked it out (hadn't looked at it in like 5 years or so)03:09
PDilyardwafflejock: wait arent these instructions wrong?03:09
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: I want the upgrade to download that .deb again03:09
lecoeusFukUmist: there is sdcv if you are okay with cli03:09
westyo03:09
wafflejockPDilyard: they talk about the old config file for backup03:09
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: since the one downloaded is corrupted03:09
wafflejockPDilyard: but I believe dpkg-reconfigure is still likely the way to go03:09
wafflejockPDilyard: and remainder of instructions are the same for shut down restart03:10
PDilyardok03:10
wafflejockPDilyard: I would probably just backup that x.org.conf folder believe that's everything it's changing or man dpkg-reconfigure03:10
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Nautilusfor spamassassin, do I have to config it for each user or is there a way to set it up the same for everyone?03:11
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, package name?03:11
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, sorry, my scrollback lost it03:11
PDilyardwafflejock: ok now do i have to install xserver-xorg?03:11
FukUmistbtw, does anyone here have a favorite PDF viewer they would recommend?03:11
wafflejockPDilyard: you should already have it03:12
wilee-nileeCrazyZurfer, If you lost the net on the update not instal just run a update in the cli and upgrade03:12
cfhowlett!poll|FukUmist,03:12
ubottuFukUmist,: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.03:12
westhow do i sign in with my registered nickname03:12
CrazyZurferwilee-nilee: doesn't work03:12
cfhowlettFukUmist, suggest you fire up the software center and search there.  lots of options!03:12
CrazyZurferwilee-nilee: says that there was an error upgrading03:12
CrazyZurfercfhowlett:   /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb03:12
cfhowlett!nick|west,03:12
ubottuwest,: Your nick is how people know you on IRC. Please don't change your nicknames too often (use /nick newnick), or it creates a lot of confusion. You should also !register your nick with freenode.03:12
wilee-nileeCrazyZurfer, ah the upgrade03:12
PDilyardwafflejock: it says "Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available...03:12
CrazyZurferwhat happens if I just delete   /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb?'03:12
testinghello there03:13
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, so it's actually a ppa then?03:13
westthanks ubottu03:13
cfhowlett!ppa|CrazyZurfer,  BUT if you insist, you could go sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox-core7     then reinstall03:14
ubottuCrazyZurfer,  BUT if you insist, you could go sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox-core7     then reinstall: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:14
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testingI want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.03:14
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: okay03:15
kakakalhi, all, is there any advantage of UEFI on UBUNTU, i am using Ubuntu 32 bit and system is capable of 64 bit but ubuntu 32 bit is more stable than 64 bit. Will i get any performance boost if i install it on UEFI Enabled, right now it is on legacy, i also have win8 installed but there is no efi boot partition on my system, advice??03:15
perocan i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?03:15
PDilyardwafflejock: i installed it with apt-get and ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and there was no error but nothing happened either03:15
cfhowlettkakakal, uefi or legacy have no impact on performance03:16
kakakalcfhowlett: why they are implemented03:17
wafflejockPDilyard: basically dpkg-reconfigure is just going to do the same thing as what that package would do during installation but now I'm bewildered as to how it wasn't present and what was being used?03:17
cfhowlett!uefi|kakakal, !03:17
ubottukakakal, !: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:17
kakakalcfhowlett: UEFI is for faster boot on windows , i think03:17
PDilyardwafflejock: im not sure03:18
testingI want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.03:18
r000tHello. I'm having some issues adding a third monitor using my iGPU when two are already served by my NVIDIA card. I know the iGPU is turned on because Windows uses the third monitor, and because Ubuntu will display the splash, tty, and kernel messages on the 3rd monitor. The X server only displays on the first two.03:18
PDilyardwafflejock: during the installation, i simply freed up 38 gigs on my ssd and left it unallocated. then i ran the installer and it automatically did everything03:19
x_roothey, i'll add this line in fstab03:19
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah wasn't asking you to answer... but just not sure what's up... unfortunately on Kubuntu 13.04 so things are a bit different on my setup too perhaps try just doing the full DE reinstall03:19
x_rootis this correct? /dev/sda3 /media/x_root/Files auto    defaults,uid=1000,umask=1 1 103:19
huwanlirtyuio03:19
x_rootto everyone act as owner of the directory03:19
PDilyardwafflejock: DE stands for?03:19
wafflejockwafflejock: honestly not sure if reinstalling the desktop environment (unity) will replace the underlying X server03:20
PDilyardah ok03:20
PDilyardPDilyard: yeah me either03:20
PDilyardwafflejock: would installing 13.04 or 13.10 make a difference?03:20
PDilyardor do you think it is just the DE that is causing the crashing03:21
wafflejockPDilyard: will definitely be different but not sure that it's a better move since 12.04 is LTS, have seen a fair amount of traffic through here of complaints about wifi on 13.10... I'm happy on 13.04 nothing major I've encountered but I have a System76 which is geared towards Linux03:21
wafflejockPDilyard: between different versions there are different code/program repositories so everything is different (shouldn't be drastic, but sometimes small changes make all the difference)03:22
PDilyardim on a desktop with an ethernet connection, so if wifi is the only big issue i'd be happier with that03:23
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah since you're on a pretty fresh install anyway maybe worth trying getting on the newest and seeing how that works out03:23
JokerSmilewoops03:23
PDilyardwafflejock: now what would be the best way to uninstall and reinstall?03:23
PDilyardwafflejock: delete the partition and boot to a live usb?03:23
PDilyardor is there an option to install on top of the current installation?03:24
wafflejockPDilyard: well if you're just going to wipe it out and put 13.10 just boot from the install and let it purge the disk when it asks where to install03:24
PDilyardwafflejock: well i have windows on the same drive03:24
wilee-nileeJokerSmile, you did it, you registered?03:24
Skapareso has anyone gotten Ubuntu 13.10 to work on an ASUS ROG?03:24
Skaparemaybe I should give up on wanting to buy that machine03:25
wafflejockPDilyard: yeah that's fine you can just boot to LiveCD/USB then and wipe the linux partitions leaving windows then re-run the installer03:25
PDilyardok03:25
PDilyardwafflejock: thanks for your help03:25
wafflejockPDilyard: no problem sorry that was so unproductive, sometimes I hit sometimes I miss03:25
wilee-nileeSkapare, its the hardware not the machine, look there grasshopper.03:26
JokerSmilewilee-nilee, I registered before so hopefully thats still my name but I'm trying to identify my self(sign in),03:26
Skaparewell hardware == machine ... if it can't be made to work, then no point buying it ... I'll look for something else03:26
Skapareany ideas for a high-end high-power laptop hardware that is Ubuntu friendly?03:27
buuSkapare: mbp?03:27
PDilyardwafflejock: yeah i always seem to have obscure issues03:27
cfhowlettSkapare, Dell Sputnik03:27
buuWHY IS THIS GODDAMN WIRELESS CARD NOT WORKING03:27
wilee-nileeSkapare, Right, however both are plurals, you have to be specific if you want a real answer.03:27
SkapareI don't know what 'mbp' means03:27
cfhowlett!SHOUT!buu,03:27
wafflejockSkapare: mac book pro03:27
wafflejockSkapare: I have a System76 and like it03:27
testingI want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.03:28
Skaparecfhowlett: ok ... but I'll skip that ... Dell is one of the companies I don't do business with03:28
Skaparewafflejock: a mac book? ??03:28
wafflejockSkapare: it's what mbp stands for03:28
wafflejockSkapare: I'm not suggesting it :)03:28
Skaparewafflejock: OK, didn't catch that03:28
wafflejockSkapare: not saying they're bad it's just not my thing03:29
buutesting: which command in specific?03:29
Skaparewafflejock: OK03:29
JokerSmilewilee-nilee, oh yeah it did work. but it printed ">NickServ< JokerSmile (and my strate out password)03:29
Skaparewafflejock: I'm not as anti-Apple as I am anti-Dell and anti-Sony03:29
wilee-nileeJokerSmile, If you have forgotten any sign in stuff #freenode will send a message to the registered email, if you are still in the system, I would speak with them.03:29
Ari-Yang[22:27:13] <Skapare> any ideas for a high-end high-power laptop hardware that is Ubuntu friendly? ---> this is an ubuntu technical support channel... your question isn't really technical support question03:29
Ari-Yangyou're better off googling03:29
* Skapare will take a look at System76 and see if their best laptop meets my wants03:30
JokerSmilewilee-nilee, then on next line NickServ "Invalid command. use .... lalalal for help03:30
SkapareAri-Yang: BTDT ... need PEOPLE's experience03:30
JokerSmilewilee-nilee, but it worked so i guess nothings wrong then.03:30
wilee-nileecool03:30
SkapareAri-Yang: but IMHO, finding hardware that matches software is a technical issue03:31
Ari-YangSkapare: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fcertification%2F&ei=bmZ4UpGlIKnMsQSav4CoBA&usg=AFQjCNH8GnqTak1gQTBkYbSKie0zc_g8IA&bvm=bv.55980276,bs.1,d.dmg03:31
Ari-Yangwups03:31
lindar>_< I'm going to bite Ubuntu. I've installed both Anthy and mozc and reinstalled ibus a billion times, but I can only write Japanese characters in Unity's search bar and not anywhere else. It always comes out in roman characters.03:31
Ari-YangSkapare: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/03:31
Ari-YangSkapare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13920/best-hardware-for-a-ubuntu-computer03:31
Ari-Yangall that found in google03:31
Ari-Yang:|03:31
wafflejockSkapare: yeah you may get more social feedback going to ubuntu-offtopic as well03:32
wafflejockSkapare: people try to keep this room open to technical support issues03:32
SkapareAri-Yang: seen that ... but I'm looking for a laptop03:32
Skaparewafflejock: OK03:32
wilee-nilee!manual | lindar03:33
ubottulindar: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/03:33
pogiakohow is 13.10 guys?03:33
Skaparelindar: no one on #ubuntu-jp knew how to make Japanese work?03:34
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: purged and tried to install it again and send same error as always.. and didn't download anything says that needs to download 0/812kb ... so It keeps trying to install the corrupted deb03:34
lindarSkapare: Nobody in #ubuntu-jp knew how to exist and type in the channel. =/03:34
Skapareoh03:34
pogiakoam still on 13.04, scared that i might have to reinstall 13.04 coz last time i installed it it gave me probs regarding my graphics card03:34
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, if you PURGED and it's still reported as corrupted, it is corrupted.03:34
lindarpogiako: Great unless you need to type in an Asian language. Video support is fine too, even though I had to reinstall the fglrx drivers.03:34
wafflejockpogiako: back up Clonezilla dd and/or rsync are your friends03:35
wilee-nileelindar, I can't imagine what you want is all that difficult, I can't say I have seen you detail it out either.03:35
pogiakoso which is more stable, 13.04 or 13.10?03:35
lindarwilee-nilee: I'm not asking *how to add* Japanese language support. I already know how it works. I'm saying it isn't working properly.03:35
pogiakoi'd go for the stable one03:35
Skaparewilee-nilee: he needs the ability to input Japanese in all places ... maybe he'd be better off finding some Ubuntu based distro specifically for Japanese03:36
wilee-nileethat lacks any real detail03:36
wafflejockpogiako: 12.04 is LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS03:36
lindar>.>03:36
pogiakocan i have all the features that i have right now on 12.04?03:36
Skaparelindar: but this is something that works OK in an earlier version of Ubuntu?03:36
Skaparelindar: have you tried 12.04 LTS?03:37
Ari-Yangpogiako: lts has longer support, but may have stale software packaged... non-lts has new features and updates software packaged03:37
wafflejockpogiako: totally depends on what features you use... different repositories for different versions of ubuntu have different packages available03:37
lindarSkapare / wilee-nilee : Please read very carefully. I had Japanese input on 13.04 working fine. I upgraded to 13.10 and now it isn't. If I click on the button at the top left of the unity task bar, which opens up a file search menu for programs and files on the machine, I can type Japanese there. With the Japanese input still on I cannot type Japanese in any other input.03:37
wafflejockpogiako: basically it's a toss up between stability and cutting edge... but 12.04 will be supported security wise for longer03:38
pogiakoaw man, thats knda sad coz its old :(03:38
wafflejockapril 201203:38
pogiakohuh?03:38
wafflejock12.04 stands for 2012 04 (april) it's not that old03:38
wafflejock14.04 will be the next LTS03:38
Skaparelindar: yeah, you explained that before ... probably broken software since you know how to set it up ... or broken software packaging ... I *am* suggesting running an earlier version until they can fix it03:39
wafflejock!lts | pogiako03:39
ubottupogiako: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)03:39
lindarpogiako: Just wait for the next LTS and stick with 13.04 or go crazy and get 13.10 and deal with the consequences. There's some new shiny stuff.03:39
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox-core7 --> not this says Package 'librhythmbox-core7' is not installed, so not removed -- Then sudo apt-get install librhythmbox-core7' should do the work....  Se encontraron errores al procesar:  /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:39
scriptThisAnyone know why this custom "add to panel" woun't open in the specified dir? (it just opens terminal at my base home dir not the full path I specify) gnome-terminal --working-directory=~/path/to/dir03:41
Ari-Yangpogiako: if you don't want 12.04 cuz the packaged software is old, I recommend you get 12.10... That expires april 2014, or you can get 13.04 but that expires really soon (next two months I think)03:42
awktiono:03:42
wilee-nileescriptThis, What desktop what release?03:42
scriptThisUbuntu 12.04 Gnome03:42
wilee-nileescriptThis, gnome 3 the fallbac\k or the shell03:42
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, tweak the command: sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox03:43
wilee-nileefallback*03:43
scriptThiswilee-nilee, I'm not sure?03:43
wafflejockpogiako: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes03:43
wilee-nileescriptThis, in the fallback you just use the alt key to add and remove I'm not sure there is a dir.03:43
JokerSmilecan i be signed in with this nick on Ubuntu and my android irc client03:44
cfhowlettJokerSmile, 1 login at a time03:44
scriptThisI can't "alt drag" the terminal window to the top panel though03:44
wilee-nileeJokerSmile, not at the same time register like JokerSmile1 as another with it.03:44
JokerSmilecool thanks03:45
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete librhythmbox --> that means like.. couldn't locate the packages librhythmbox03:45
wilee-nileeJokerSmile, More than one at a time is not really acceptable is all.03:45
Lyx925hello03:46
wafflejockHello Lyx92503:47
wilee-nileescriptThis, I have not used the fallback, I would look on the web for adding stuff.03:47
scriptThisFinally got it:  gnome-terminal --working-directory /home/name/path/to/folder03:48
cfhowlettCrazyZurfer, my last brilliant idea: spring cleaning.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean     THEN run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade03:48
wilee-nileescriptThis, you know ctrl-alt-t is a terminal load03:48
scriptThiswilee-nilee, right, but that takes you by default to home, I wanted something that goes to a specific directory03:51
wilee-nileehehe not quiet but nice try, see yah as you are gone.03:53
testinghello there can someone help me how to fix my problem it is right here. http://pastebin.com/c01UX1B803:53
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lotuspsychjemorning to all03:55
KillBiebsQuestion, how do I disable the magazines/books from coming up in the software center?03:56
Guest52101how do i access the boot menu for an acer aspire V5.  F12 hasn't worked. changing bios didn't either for some reason03:57
EmanonSo I'm running an encrypted 13.04 installation. Upon boot the encryption key prompt is in CLI. What do I have to install/change to make it use the GUItastic graphical decryption prompt?03:57
Emanon13.10 Sorry.03:57
lotuspsychjeGuest52101: try the ##hardware channel mate03:57
lotuspsychjeKillBiebs: not sure sugestions like that can be disabled, do they really bother you?03:58
cfhowlettGuest52101, ask #acer03:58
wilee-nileeKillBiebs, I doubt you can all of them.03:59
KillBiebshah yeah, it does ;\03:59
CrazyZurfercfhowlett: seems to work, but didn't install the update... I actually don't care about that update, just didn't wanted to have errors, thanks!03:59
Guest52101cfhowlett: no one is in that channel03:59
perocan i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?04:00
lotuspsychjeGuest52101: try a few, F2, DEL04:00
BradTNany mdadm experts around?04:00
wilee-nileeKillBiebs, I never use the software center myself just the cli.04:00
thx1138_i need to install an nvidia driver for a geforce 6200...what's the difference / advantages of installing nvidia-304 vs nvidia-304-updates vs the nvidia install run file from nvidia's website?04:00
lotuspsychjeBradTN: ask your issue in channel mate04:00
EmanonI'm somewhat familiar with it BradTN what do you need?04:01
BradTNmy issue is this raid isnt working04:01
lotuspsychje!raid | BradTN04:01
ubottuBradTN: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto04:01
BradTNand i need someone who knows what they are doing to take a look plz04:01
KillBiebscli as in apt-get? I'm brand new to Ubuntu so I have to use software center to see what kind of apps are available. I don't even know what I want yet ;)04:01
BradTNthx.. ive read and tried all this stuff thanks04:01
EmanonPerhaps if you gave some less ambiguous descriptions of your issue someone could help you BradTN.04:01
lotuspsychjeKillBiebs: what packages do you need? we might be able to find your right software04:02
wilee-nileeKillBiebs, Yeah the terminal, I can see the dilemma.04:02
BradTNthe raid has been created and mounted but gives no permissions to be wrote to at all04:02
BradTNive tried all commands found online for fstab04:02
BradTNmdadm.conf04:02
BradTNnothign works04:02
KillBiebsoh I don't know lotus, I just installed ubuntu 2 weeks ago so I am finding solutions to all of my small issues hah04:02
EmanonBradTN: Enter is not punctuation.04:02
jazzhi y'all!04:03
jazzso i'm getting some pretty serious screen tearing when mirroring to my HDTV in ubuntu04:03
jazzscreen tearing is only on PC monitor though04:04
jazznot HDTV04:04
lotuspsychjejazz: are you using xrandr?04:04
jazznon-free AMD drivers enabled, clnfigured through AMD control center04:04
EmanonAre you creating a raid during initial installation or on an existing install BradTN?04:04
jazzno idea what that is :)04:04
lotuspsychje!xrandr | jazz04:04
ubottujazz: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1204:04
jazzouuuuuuuuuuuuuu04:05
BradTNexisting install.04:05
* jazz checks it out04:05
BradTNraid not apart of the OS at all.04:05
jazzPackage xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:06
jazzThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:06
jazzis only available from another source04:06
jazzHowever the following packages replace it:04:06
jazz  x11-xserver-utils04:06
FloodBot1jazz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:06
jazzsorry flootbot04:06
lotuspsychjejazz: man xrandr04:06
jazzman?04:06
lotuspsychjejazz: open a terminal and type: man xrandr04:06
wilee-nileemanual04:06
jazzah, right04:07
jazzso... what am i looking for04:07
jazzby the way, i cheated, i'm using debian04:07
jazzbut the folks in #debian aren't being very helpful04:07
lotuspsychjejazz: this is an ubuntu channel ofcourse04:07
* jazz nods04:07
wilee-nileeoff with your head here. ;)04:07
lotuspsychje:p04:07
jazzi hope that's all right04:08
jazzi could really use the help04:08
lotuspsychjejazz: lucky for you we pointed you in the right direction already04:08
jazzno screen tearing when i unoplug the HDMI and don't mirror04:08
lotuspsychjejazz: but support ends here and goodle will be your xrandr friend04:09
lotuspsychjeand google also04:09
wilee-nileeAs a jazz musician I call Giant Steps to #debian04:09
EmanonSo presumably you're building your array via CLI correct BradTN?04:10
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BradTNyes04:12
EmanonBradTN: You might consider using LVM rather than RAID, it's more flexible and easier to configure providing most of the same functionality as the kind of software RAID you are trying to create. The package system-config-lvm provides a graphical tool by which to create and manage them. You might check it out before you continue.04:13
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EmanonBradTN: In my experience it's MUCH easier to create and manage Volume Groups and Logical Volumes than Arrays so that could be a better option for you.04:16
BradTNhows its redundancy and performance?04:16
BradTNmainly this is suppose to be storage for media to be streamed throughout house04:17
niftylettucecan anyone here make sense of what this means/does and how i can get it to work on my end with the TrustZone stuff?  http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html04:17
EmanonYou can set striping and (if I'm not mistaken) parity as you wish to replicate the functionality of popular RAID levels and though there may be some performance difference between LVM and RAID (I don't know if there is) I've never observed one.04:18
wilee-nileeniftylettuce, This a ubuntu-touch issue?04:18
niftylettucewilee-nilee: sort of, i am trying to get passed motorola's bootloader04:18
niftylettucewilee-nilee: apparently this guy figured it out by using a dev device and running through the Motorola Unlock Program -- he reverse engineered04:19
niftylettucewilee-nilee: i can't make sense of how to replicate his results and backdoor it04:19
wilee-nileeniftylettuce, YOu would want #ubuntu-touch for it and the desktop installs04:19
EmanonIn addition BradTN, LVM allows you to easily add to, remove from, resize and restructure your arrays while they are still running. So you can further reduce downtime while still allowing expansion or repair without any command line work.04:22
EmanonI'm running full encryption on 13.10 and the prompt for my encryption key is presented via CLI rather than the usual graphical mode. How do I fix this?04:25
Skaparesystem76.com rejected my email ... no such address as sales@system76.com ... guess they lose my business04:32
localhp_hello04:33
ianorlin!hi04:33
localhp_hi ok u see me04:33
localhp_whaaatup04:34
ianorlinhow can I help?04:34
localhp_ianorlin have some wine issues. i trade stocks , but do not care for microsoft so have switch to ubuntu04:35
localhp_have wine up and installed tda thinkorswim.exe and ran it but cannot find where wine is putting my installations04:35
localhp_i go to applications and c: program files x 86 bla and nothing04:36
cfhowlettlocalhp_, hidden folder in /home .wine04:36
localhp_also tried the cntl h thing too04:37
localhp_nothing04:37
localhp_crapppppp04:38
Omen_20Does anyone have a clue as to why the shortcut keys were changed for moving windows one workspace up/down? Left and right were kept the same for 13.1004:38
wilee-nileetax reasons04:39
quinnwizardanyone know if the wlan erratic blinking problem been fixed in the newest distro 13.10 desktop?04:39
localhp_OK IS THERE A ROOM FOR WINE CONFIGURATION04:40
cfhowlett!wine|localhp_,04:40
ubottulocalhp_,: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu04:40
localhp_please folks04:40
Skaparewow ... 10 captchas in a row on login.ubuntu.com are completely unreadable04:40
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localhp_ubottu thanks man i just wanted a quick fix... guess ill just dual boot and trade in windows becouse this one is a conundrum dichotomy. Thankyou for the help04:42
ubottulocalhp_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:42
EmanonSorry about dropping out, I crashed. Did I miss anything BradTN?04:42
localhp_cfhowlett thanks04:43
cfhowlettlocalhp_, good luck to you.04:45
thx1138_i'm trying to install an nvidia driver but i got this message, even though i have linux-source installed: Building for architecture i68604:45
thx1138_Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the04:45
thx1138_kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.04:45
quinnwizardwhat is with the dl speed from ubuntu?  I'm maxing out at 60 kb/s.04:45
quinnwizardthere we go, now I am getting dl of 3 mb/s04:47
cfhowlett!torrent|quinnwizard, you're downling the ISO?  Please use torrent instead.  usually faster and lightens the load on the servers.  PLUS torrent seems to do a better job of integrity checking the download in progress04:49
ubottuquinnwizard, you're downling the ISO?  Please use torrent instead.  usually faster and lightens the load on the servers.  PLUS torrent seems to do a better job of integrity checking the download in progress: Some torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus/Vuse (Java), !Frostwire (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent,04:49
quinnwizardthanks cfhowlett, switching over now.04:49
cfhowlett:)04:49
cfhowlettquinnwizard, don't forget to md5sum check once you get the download04:50
quinnwizardcfhowlett, yeah i learned to do that the hard way a few upgrades ago.04:50
perocan i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?04:53
ianorlinthey are not well documented but there are some in man chromium-browser|pero04:54
peroyeah, but where do i put them, ianorlin04:54
leif_is there a irc channel for people into coding04:59
ianorlinI am not sure but you can launch chromium browser through them05:00
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Odditylecoeus, I'm sure there's many. You could try ##programming or some language-specific channels on this network.05:02
leif_ok thanks05:03
admin1hi05:03
admin1hey05:03
webraikalguien me ayufa05:03
admin1hello05:04
webraikTENGO UN PROBLEMA COON MI UBUTNU 13.1005:04
ianorlin!es05:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.05:05
webraikok gracias05:05
webraikCOMO LO HAGO UBOTTU05:07
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testinghello there can someone help me how to use grep in this problem given . http://pastebin.com/c01UX1B805:17
Paulus68_1test05:33
trupheenixhello05:33
* Paulus68_1 thought I was all by myself :)05:33
ObrienDaveyou are ;)05:34
trupheenixis anyone here who can help me setup postfix? I seem to be failing on setting up saslauthd for authentication. It's unlcear to me how to setup the correct path to find saslauthd05:34
Paulus68_1ObrienDave: nah I 'm surrounded by nice support people of ubuntu but since I didn't get a refresh in the channel for about 5 mins I was getting scared that everybody run out of me05:36
cyruscloudhello?05:36
* xmetal thinks if i am all alone in this room that probably means some MS user broke the entire internet 05:37
HempathyG'day peeps, I hate to say this but I'm looking for help with Unity :)05:37
xmetal:P05:37
ObrienDavePaulus68_1 we try to scare off the trolls that way ;)05:37
HempathyAm I ok to shout out questions here?05:37
FreezingColdHow does Debian and Ubuntu's kernel differ?05:37
xmetali have to say the more i use uniity, the more i like it ... not my favorite DE,... but its not 1/2 bad05:37
xmetali hated it at first05:37
HempathyI've installed Gnome and can no longer see my mouse cursor in Unity, any ideas?05:38
corvolinoxmetal, the BRASnet?05:38
trupheenixdoes anyone here know how to get postfix working with sasl authentication on ubuntu?05:39
* Paulus68_1 is not a troll *tapping feet on the floor* at least not when I looked in the mirror today :p05:39
wilee-nileeHempathy, You have any other mouse to try?05:39
jotterbot1234testing: cat testfile.txt | egrep -o "(Signal level.......|ESSID......)"05:39
jotterbot1234testing: something like that?05:39
Hempathymouse works fine in Gnome, win7, and VM... and did untill the Gnome install05:40
webraikI HAVE PROBLM WITH USING THE LETER ENE IN LATIN05:40
Paulus68_1!caps05:40
ubottuPLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.05:40
xmetalhmm i was looking at ps/2 to usb (to use ps2 mice i have lying around in PC's without PS/2 ports) .. saw a few for between $2 and 3 bucks ... but to be honest i think it'd be better just looking at a new logitech mouse05:40
trupheenixI keep getting this error when trying to use postfix with saslauthd. warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory05:40
wilee-nileeHempathy, you say it worked in gnome in the last post then not, how did you install gnome, this the shell?05:41
Hempathysorry my bad grammer05:42
jotterbot1234testing: Or more specifically: cat testfile.txt | egrep -o "(Signal level.......|ESSID......)" | sed s'/:/=/'g | cut -d "=" -f205:42
Hempathyafter installing Gnome, I can no longer see the mouse cursor in Unity :)05:42
HempathyGnome all good05:42
Guest52101anyone familiar with booting a usb stick of mint on an acer aspire V5?  can't get to the boot menu and bios changes didn't affect startup going straight to winders05:43
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xmetalhmm i am not even sure which DE is "gnome" on the OS i use05:43
Guest52101here is a link to the issue i'm having:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214278605:43
xmetal!mint05:43
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org05:43
wilee-nileeHempathy, No biggie, what gnome, there is the shell and the fallback, neither should cause a loss of the cursor theoretically, what release?05:43
wilee-nileeGuest52101, Find the per-session boot prompt05:44
HempathyThanks for your help wilee-nilee, how would i find the release *blush*05:44
wilee-nileeHempathy, lsb_release -a05:44
HempathyBTW I'm using an ATI graphics card if that helps05:44
jonofolks, this might be off-topic, but I am having a fund-raise (I work as the Ubuntu Community Manager) - Creative Commons music to support WaterAid -http://www.gofundme.com/rockforwater05:45
HempathyAfrais that doesn't mention Gnome, just 13.1005:45
joosseedfgfdg05:45
wilee-nileeHempathy, 13.10?05:46
HempathyYeah Saucy05:46
wilee-nileeHempathy, do a ctrl-alt-t and run these reset commands and see if this fixes it, you may need to reboot afterwards. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/05:48
wilee-nileejust a guess, but one never knows05:48
Hempathythanks for your time & help I'll give it a try :)05:48
amitaHello to anyone!05:49
wilee-nileeHempathy, cool you can run sudo reboot at the end.05:49
Hempathy<wilee-nilee> Nice work05:51
wilee-nileeHempathy, That work?05:51
Hempathyeven before rbooting I'm back in a working Unity05:51
ObrienDaveanother happy customer :)05:51
Hempathywish I hadn't reset my icons though :)05:52
wilee-nileeHempathy, cool baby in the words of mike myers funky character I forget the name to.05:52
ObrienDaveLOL no good deed goes un-punished ;)05:52
HempathyAustin Powers baby!05:52
wilee-nileeHempathy, Yeah, messing with unity can be a learning experience, of yeah Austin Powers.05:53
HempathyThanks heaps05:53
wilee-nileeI like the mini me05:53
wilee-nileeno prob05:53
HempathyHow do I burn Amazon completely from Ubuntu?05:54
joosseewhat is the best vm host or server software to runon ubuntu?05:54
cfhowlettHempathy, logout.  choose a different desktop.  login.  no unity   OR05:54
cfhowlett!nounit05:54
cfhowlett!nounity05:54
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 an up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic05:54
cfhowlettOR use lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu05:54
Skaparewhat does "investigate" mean in that?05:55
cyruscloudI'm having problems using Skype and Google Plus. People can barely hear me. Is there a way I can fix this?05:55
joosseecan someone help me with the glorious task of getting my video working? I can get to CLI by editing grub but cant get video to work.. tries the fixes card is firemv 2250...?05:56
Hempathyrebooting - thanks agian for your help wilee05:56
cfhowlettcyruscloud, google plus has a chat function now - use that insated05:56
wilee-nileeHempathy, You can remove those links like amazon I forget their name I switched to the shell way back, someone here knows.05:56
cyruscloudFor video calls05:56
wilee-nileejoossee, You have X?05:57
joosseewilee-nilee, no GUI watsoever05:58
wilee-nileejoossee, All cli I'm not sure05:58
joossee12.0405:58
joosseeya i know right? all the forums tell me to install the driver thru gui05:58
joosseei cant seem to get it working05:58
joosseei just ran "apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-all" and everything comeplted successfully but no dice .. after grub just a blackscreen05:59
Hempathyhaha me again06:00
Hempathy:)06:00
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HempathyI've booted into Unity, looking good, but stil no mouse cursor?06:00
joosseei fixed the blackscreenby using nomodeset in grub and can get to CLI06:00
cyruscloudI'm trying to use google plus and/or Skype for video calling, but the other person's having problems hearing me. Any idea what I can do?06:00
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Foxhoundzadd-apt-repository: command not found06:01
Foxhoundzwhat gives?06:01
HempathyIcons react when i  'mouse over'... but no arrow to see06:01
wilee-nileeFoxhoundz, That's for adding ppa's06:01
FoxhoundzI know06:01
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FoxhoundzI'm wondering why the command is not presnet06:02
Guest3815Where can I download ZHackers ebook for free06:02
wilee-nileeFoxhoundz, what release?06:02
cfhowlett!hack|Guest3815, we don't know and why ask here.06:02
cfhowlett!hacker06:02
ubottuA hacker is a person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular, as defined by Request for Comments (RFC) 1392 - i.e. a good programmer  -- crackers on the other hand break systems, see also !piracy06:02
Foxhoundzwilee-nilee, 12.04, precise06:02
FoxhoundzLTS06:03
wilee-nileeFoxhoundz, you use sudo as in, sudo add-apt-repository ppa06:03
ObrienDaveHempathy try a different cursor scheme06:03
Guest3815ZHackers is a comic book on Zombies and Hackers06:03
Hempathyoooh how would one set that up?06:04
cfhowlettGuest3815, ??? pretty completely unrelated to the channel topic, yes?06:04
cfhowlett!topic06:04
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic06:04
ObrienDaveHempathy don't remember. I use Xubuntu ;)06:04
Hempathymay have to ;)06:05
Paulus68_1!offtopic| Guest381506:05
ubottuGuest3815: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:05
Hempathywhat do you think are the benefits?06:05
Hempathyand how do I direct coments to a user?... sorry for n00b Q's06:05
ianorlinmention there name and it will highlight them06:06
wilee-nilee!tab | Hempathy06:06
ubottuHempathy: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.06:06
ObrienDaveHempathy type their name in the line. use tab to auto-complete06:06
Guest3815ok then tell me how to start Internet pass-through for htc android phones in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?06:06
Hempathywi!06:06
Hempathywilee-nilee, ahhh06:07
ObrienDaveGuest3815 that is an Android setting06:07
cfhowlett!tether|Guest3815,06:07
wilee-nileeyou got it Hempathy06:07
Hempathy:)06:07
joosseehow do i find out my xorg version?06:07
cfhowlettGuest3815, read your * user manual06:07
wilee-nileejoossee, You have a end goal? like a gui, a desktop?06:08
Guest3815No for windows there is htc sync software available but not for Ubuntu06:08
joosseewilee-nilee, yes GUI!!06:08
wilee-nileejoossee, What did you install so far, was it the server?06:08
cfhowlettGuest3815, airdroid works nicely06:08
ObrienDaveGuest3815 start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php06:08
joosseeubuntu server 6406:08
wilee-nileejoossee, What desktop do you fancy?06:09
joosseewilee-nilee, hrmm no preference. was hoping for the default ... ?06:09
HempathyStill missing mouse cursor in Unity.. frustrating as I've just got past my love hate with the UI06:09
ObrienDaveUnity PFFFFFT06:09
joosseeGnome is it? (i usually run lubuntu)06:09
wilee-nileejoossee, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is the unity dektop06:09
joosseeok doing it now06:10
joosseeoh an additional 1.2gbs\06:10
wilee-nileejoossee, yeah06:10
joosseewilee-nilee, no biggie just being facetious06:11
joossee2,362 kbps over wireless. i love 201306:11
wilee-nileejoossee, There are lighter desktops, generally as they get lighter they are more config adjusted to tweak.06:11
joosseewilee-nilee, is there a light one you like? lxde any good?06:12
ObrienDavejoossee, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop would be my favorite ;)06:12
* ianorlin thinks lxde is good06:12
ObrienDaveXFCE06:12
testinghello there can someone help me how to use grep in order to get only the signal level and ESSSID when issuing iwlist command ? thanks.06:12
joosseeyes my friends who run arch say that as well06:12
wilee-nileejoossee, lxde or lubuntu are nice, but xfce xubuntu are as well.06:12
ObrienDaveok, ok, not trying to start a DE war here ;)06:12
joosseeok i will try out ubuntu first06:13
joosseebut i think my real problem is my video driver06:13
joosseebut just so were clear: ubuntu server does NOT install a window manager?06:13
lindarHey it's me again yay. So it seems like I have to force everything to use iBus by right clicking and going to "select input method". iBus seems to work just fine and xim(??) is the problem. How do I remove the Ubuntu default input manager and use iBus as the default?06:13
joosseemy god this machine is peppy06:14
wilee-nileejoossee, install the desktop the ubuntu-restricted-extras for flash, codecs, and the ms fonts if you want them.06:14
wilee-nileethen*06:14
joosseef*ck libreoffice!06:15
cfhowlett!language|joossee,06:15
ubottujoossee,: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.06:15
ObrienDaveloves libreoffice06:15
joosseeaw shucks sorry06:15
joosseedo any of you guys use vm's on ubuntu?06:16
ObrienDaveVbox06:16
joosseeObrienDave, is that the best one?06:16
ObrienDaveto each their own06:16
ianorlin!best06:16
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.06:16
joosseeomfg bot i know that06:16
xmetali dont get the people who say how "complicate" of a change going from MS to Libre office is ... i mean (I only have MS office 2013 cause i got it at a yard sale) there are probably differences... but i mean a spreedsheet is a spreedsheet06:16
joosseeits just subjective06:16
xmetaloops06:16
xmetal2003 *06:16
xmetalor "Office xp" i guess its called .06:17
joosseei am new to vms but have this honking server so i have newb questions06:17
ianorlinserver doesn't come with gui by default06:17
kakakalhi all, i have a very solid query, my sound is working fine in ubuntu but it is not good as windows, i mean in sweetness, clarity, i can directly distinguish between the two, windows music is great to listen but here it causes some irritation, tried the same in rhythmbox and vlc, no good effect seen, i also used equalizer but not as good as windows music, sweet and clear, how to improve that06:17
wilee-nilee best discussions run on  and on and on and on, best stopped in their tracks06:17
joosseefigured that... is openvm really open?06:17
joosseeok finished installing ubuntu desktop. just a reboot then?06:18
wilee-nileejoossee, probably easiest yeah.06:18
lindarkakakal: as an audio engineer, I have no idea what "sweetness" means from a technical standpoint.06:19
joosseexenserver is that free?06:19
ObrienDaveis jealous of joossee connection speed ;(06:19
lindarkakakal: Could you use more technical speech and less artsy description?06:19
joosseelol06:19
wilee-nileeAs long as one compares OS's it is a waste of time.06:19
joossee45$ A MONTH 25/1006:19
kakakallindar: sweetness means, that people love to hear,06:19
ObrienDavelives WAY out in the sticks. DSL :(06:19
joosseetplink wdn4800 wireless card06:19
kakakallindar: i am not an audio engineer, i can say less noise, better bass effect n all06:20
xmetali just happen to likely .. .a mintier OS06:20
* xmetal ducks06:20
cfhowlettkakakal, again: subjective.  you're accustomed to your pre-sets on windows media.  It's possible to do the same in linux but those SAME pre-sets do not exist.  make your own06:20
lindarkakakal: Yes, but subjective terms don't do anything for technical problems. It could just be your imagination. Have you tried using EQ?06:20
GeekDudeSometimes when I say "exit" over SSH, it replies "logout" and hangs. I assume this is because I left my browser connected via proxy? How do I fix it? I remove the browser post-issue, but it still just hangs06:20
kakakalyes, i used equalizer, built in the vlc06:20
joosseegrrrr installing ubuntu desktop didnt fix my blackscreen issue... i mentioned that i have to use nomodeset to get to CLI...?06:20
kakakalveromix in the KDE environment06:20
ObrienDavethrows more trout at xmetal06:21
kakakaland A plugin from third party source in rhythmbox06:21
lindarjoossee: What kind of video card?06:21
joosseefiremv 225006:21
kakakalnone of them served my purpose well06:21
lindarkakakal: Okay. Cool story, bro. You're not being very helpful.06:21
lindarjoossee: ATI?06:21
joosseelindar, there is a link here explaing problem with newer xorgs sez to run 7.006:21
joosseehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/109138006:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 1091380 in xserver-xorg-driver-ati "Xorg fails to start on ATI FireMV 2400 quad monitor video card" [High,Confirmed]06:21
joosseeAMD nee ATI, my friend :)06:21
joosseeso im wondering if i can revert to xorg 7.0 ?06:22
joosseeon 12.0406:22
lindarjoossee: Had almost the same problem. Just a black screen, possibly with a blinky dot? I had to root console and force install the closed drivers because the open ones wouldn't allow it to run.06:22
kakakallindar: i haven't created any story, this is true06:22
joosseelindar, thats what i need to do i think!! but no idea how to06:22
kakakalthe same hardware, same volume level, and the same song06:22
kakakalbut sound produced by windows is better06:23
lindarkakakal: Okay, I believe you. It doesn't sound as good on Ubuntu. You're also not giving us any helpful information. Vague subjective terms don't help troubleshoot technical problems.06:23
kakakalso what type of technical information you need06:23
* cfhowlett ... grabs a bowl of popcorn and some napkins, proceeds to watch06:24
xmetal!details06:24
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:24
lindarjoossee: You'll have to go into recovery from grub, load up root console, and manually install fglrx-updates.06:24
joosseeOH FUDGE COOKIES06:24
joosseeIT KINDA WORKED ALL OF A SUDDEN!!!\\06:24
joosseei have one screen on with gui!!!06:24
cfhowlett!caps|joossee,06:24
ubottujoossee,: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.06:24
kakakali am using pulse audio, i used equalizer in vlc, tried to change bass levels, tried some presets like rock, home, soft, techno, bass etc, but not equal to windows06:24
joosseeyayayayayay!06:24
xmetalhmm06:25
joosseeok lemme see if i can get drivers installed the proper way06:25
andryanyone uses google chrome? if yes, what is your ~/.xsession-errors file size?06:25
kermytkakakal, so why not just use windows?06:25
lindarkakakal: Actual technical information. "The bitrate is lower." or "The EQ is different." or anything helpful like that. If it's just that the EQ presets don't sound the same, copy them over or something...06:25
xmetali tried the pulse audio equalizer in the latest version of the distro i use but it doesn't work it seems ... was fine in the version prior06:26
joosseeok wow this gui is very different06:26
ObrienDavemuch more fun th complain about a FREE OS than try to adjust it properly LMAO06:26
ObrienDave*to06:26
cfhowlettObrienDave, are you speaking *sputter* LOGIC?06:27
ObrienDavethat would be WAY to easy ;))06:27
xmetallogic? .. what in the world is that?06:27
joosseeso lindar i just go to additional hardware?06:28
lindarxmetal: It's a program hipsters use to make music on overpriced computers.06:28
cfhowlettlindar, okay, that got a laugh.  Good one.06:28
ObrienDaveI could say to kakakal that windows is DESIGNED to be IDIOT proof. but, that would not be very nice06:28
xmetaloh ... is there a place where i can download this logic?06:28
xmetal:P06:29
lindarObrienDave: It's also not true. It's genius-proof. I can't figure out how to get it to do anything.06:29
ObrienDaveLOL06:29
lindar::cool_guy::06:29
kakakallindar: i am not an audio engineer and i told you what i know from a general user point of view, and kermyt , this is what linux is all about? to shift to windows? because of some sound problem, there are many issues still need to be resolved by linux community, if they are not resolved, why the normal user will shift to linux, when one can get a fully functional copy(Pirated windows) for free, via torrent or whatsoever, if a user is aware enough, his/her syste06:29
kakakalObrienDave: idiot proof, AND linux is GEEK PROOF :D06:30
kakakalbut more than 85% people in the world are using windows, because they are idiots???06:30
kermytgeek proof? my friend you are not the neckbeard you think you are.06:30
lindarkakakal: Okay, and your English skills are very poor, so you're not adequately communicating your problem. Windows sounds better and you can't explain what the difference is.06:30
lindarkakakal: We're not refusing to help you, it's just that you're not doing anything to actually allow us to help you. You're telling us it's broken, but you haven't told us anything else, and we can't help you without more information. Be more descriptive.06:31
xmetal64% of all stats are made up ... 95% of people know that06:31
ObrienDaveignores the troll06:31
kakakallindar: yes, i couldn't explain the difference in technical terms, in terms of bitrate and other things, i used same volume level, i used same song, so bitrate should be same, elsse i don't know06:32
ianorlinit might be quieter?06:32
joosseeok so i got ubuntu desktop running now i just need to install right drivers...06:32
cfhowlettkakakal, no one is going to jump through the computer to help you set your own sound preferences.06:32
lindarkakakal: Is the bitrate lower (does it sound like a fish-tank?)? Is the treble or bass different? Are the EQ levels different?06:32
xmetalbbiab.. want to try something06:33
ianorlindo you normally plug into speakers in the front and is it using worse built in speakers?06:33
kakakalcfhowlett: thanks06:33
lindarkakakal: Also, we're not required to help you. We're all random people who do this as a hobby, not official paid tech support representatives. We'll get along just fine if you get butt-hurt and decide to go back to Windows.06:33
cfhowlettkakakal, http://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/A_Digital_Media_Primer_For_Geeks06:33
wilee-nileeIt's the ubuntu-gang lol06:33
lindarkakakal: So how about you be a little fucking humble and don't act so entitle. We don't have to fix your problem, and we're not inclined to if you're not going to help us figure out what the problem is.06:34
joosseehey im humble and unintitled! lets go back to the sooting melodies of fixing a funky video card!06:34
* cfhowlett ... inserts "chillax" command into the thread.06:34
lindarjoossee: Did you get fglrx-updates installed?06:35
wilee-nileejoossee, Have you identified said card, look at lspci to do so.06:35
joosseelindar, hrmm dont think so..?06:35
joosseeapt-get install fglrx-updates ?06:35
joosseehow do i get command prompt? atl-f2?06:35
kermythas anyoe gotten fglrx to work with with the new AMD APU?06:35
lindarjoossee: That or ctrl+alt+t06:36
lindarjoossee: "sudo apt-get install --yes fglrx-updates"06:36
lindarkermyt: Haven't tried. Too poor. If you buy me one I'll try it out and let you know.06:37
rajuvmHi guys i have directory path /var/local/oab/src directory. In amazon instance its taking up more disk space of 2G, as we know its kind of very critical in prods. Could you help us in understanding, what this directory is and how can i handle it06:37
joosseelindar, ok comes up in lspci it seems right06:37
kermytI have an AMD A4-3300 APU and fglrx runs but with an "unsupported hardware" logo in the right corner.06:37
kermytthe radeon drivers jsut hard lock the machine06:38
joossee3,3 kbps wow!06:38
lindarkermyt: I get that same thing with fglrx, but fglrx-updates works great.06:38
joosseegigabit  cables definately worth the extra ten bucks06:38
kermythmm ok thanks lindar06:38
lindarkakakal: http://www.ubuntu.com/support06:39
lindarkakakal: "buy professional support services"06:39
joosseehrmmm lindar... the install seems stopped at 94% .. i hit enter it just repeats "94% [5 fglrx-updates 87.6 ... 100%]06:40
kakakallindar: NO problem, i don't have so much spare time to tweak, i will spend some more time on installing drivers in WIndows, next time, that's the only positive difference i could see in the linux. Otherwise, slow read write speed, even on ext4 partition as compared to NTFS, with same hardware, slow boot as compared to windows, slow application execution, like chrome, gimp, mozilla, they execute faster on windows, i installed preload, prelink,, ureadahead, and h06:40
joosseekakakal, yeah but i can copy all your files with a usb stick.\06:40
joosseeoh here we go install has resumed06:41
joosseedepmod.....06:41
kermytext4 isn't designed to be a high performance FS. it's a journaling FS and as a result it's a little slower than most non journaling FSs like ext206:41
kakakaljoossee: even with an encrypted hard drive?06:41
lindarkakakal: Okay, like I said, I don't care one way or another. It's not my job to force you to use Ubuntu.06:41
cfhowlettand now, moving on to ubuntu support ...06:41
lindarkakakal: You can't figure out how to get it to work and you won't explain what's actually wrong with it.06:42
kakakallindar: i am not complaining anything to you and why the hell you are getting angry06:42
ObrienDavebut he wants it fixed NOW06:42
joosseeok fglrx update installed reboot?06:42
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kakakallindar: calm down and enjoy your work06:42
kermytand using an encrypted file system is only going to make FS access times far worse.06:43
joosseeWindows 8: Now Banned in Germany for TPM violations06:43
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joosseewhere did lindar go?06:48
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rajuhi06:50
cfhowlettraju, greetings06:51
brian101Hi - I have a problem with UEFI booting. After the last update to (13.10 64amd) I no longer see my Windoze in Grub. I really need this. Can someone please assist me in getting it back.06:52
rajuhi, what does /var/local/oab directory is for. can i remove this if its not needed. its taking up more disk space in prod server06:52
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HempathyMe again!06:52
kakakalbrian101: use boot-repair06:52
HempathyI'd just like to pass on my thanks to the due/tte who suggested xubuntu... can't believe it has taken me so long to try it06:53
brian101kakakal: I take it I must perform this in a terminal window from Ubuntu?06:53
ObrienDaveHempathy YAY!06:53
Hempathyjust what i'm looking for in a UI... although I kinda miss the lens06:53
cfhowlettHempathy, sweet, ain't it?06:54
HempathyObrienDave, thanks man :)06:54
kakakalyes, it has a GUI, and it will do most of work automatically for you06:54
ObrienDaveno prob06:54
joosseeok now i am just having weirdest problem: trying to launch amd catalyst config and it asks for password to modify system settings but it keeps getting it wrong... i checked for caps lock and it stays on until i hit the shift key... is my keyboard configured incorrectly?06:54
Hempathylove it, it has the simplicity of the earlier versions of Ubuntu that I fell for06:54
cfhowlettHempathy, nice06:55
ObrienDaveHempathy that's why i can't stand Unity ;)06:55
HempathyI've never been a fan of Unity06:55
Hempathyalthough after the last few version it has been growing on me...06:55
Hempathylike a wart of athelets foot06:55
ObrienDaveLOL06:56
kakakalbrian101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair06:56
HempathyThanks again man, I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders06:56
brian101Thanx kakakal, I'll try it out tonight when I get back home after work.06:56
ObrienDaveHempathy welcome to Xubuntu ;))06:57
kakakalbrian101: no problem and i am shifting to windows :(06:57
ObrienDaveHempathy and join us on #xubuntu06:58
HempathyThanks for your help here though people as always06:58
cfhowlettHempathy, xubuntu is also the base of #ubuntustudio06:59
Hempathyubuntu studio???? is that the version with the audio visual plugins?06:59
Hempathy...software in the distro?07:00
brian101Ouch! I am considering going back to 12.04.03 LTS and staying there. Maybe looking for another distribution or following your path. Also :(07:00
cfhowlett!ubuntustudio|Hempathy,07:00
ubottuHempathy,: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org07:00
cfhowlettHempathy, much more than merely plugins07:00
Paulus68_1Hempathy: download size +/- 2,5 gig07:00
Hempathycfhowlett, so currently i play woth GIMP & a couple of audio suits... this has the best recommended benchmarks?07:01
ObrienDaveHempathy just look for ubuntustudio in synaptic. no need to re-install07:02
raju_Hello I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and I dont why its keep hanging for a while and then resuimng. could somebody help me ?07:02
Paulus68_1Hempathy: then my guess is that Ubuntu studio is gonna be your friend :)07:02
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cfhowlettHempathy, it all depends on what you plan to do.  you CAN get any of the packages that are in ubuntustudio without installing the distro.  US just puts it all together in a nice, tight, artfully arragned distro07:02
cfhowlett*BUT* I might be a tad biased ...07:02
ObrienDavejust a bit ;))07:03
Hempathyhaha ObrienDave  like you aint to Xu07:03
cfhowlettHempathy, you've got xubuntu.  Upgrading to US would be a trivial matter.  I'd recommend the LTS version which means ... I"m going to be all xmas-y next April 17!07:04
Hempathycfhowlett, ????07:04
Hempathyxmasy?07:04
Hempathyahhhh 14.04?07:04
cfhowlett:)07:04
ObrienDaveHempathy who, me? NEVER ;)07:05
cfhowlettindeed!  I do LTS only so I usually watch the biannual OMG!  It's 9:01!  Is it out yet? with great amusement.07:05
Hempathycool, I've only picked up a decent box in the last 12 months, so am looking to abuse what it's capable of07:06
ObrienDaveabuse LOL07:06
Hempathypissed that I picked up an ATI card07:06
cfhowlettHempathy, I'll warn you now, once you pick up US and actually create something cool ... you'll never look at a vanilla ubuntu variant the same again07:07
HempathyI've played with nearly every OS via V Box, stoked to finally find Xbb07:07
Hempathycfhowlett,  I'm game to try, my fav toy at min is the rockband drums & fightstick I play smaple thorugh07:08
Flaruphey is this a help chanal for ubuntu ?07:09
ObrienDaveyes, welcome07:09
HempathyXubuntu recruitment channel07:09
cfhowlettHempathy, the ubuntuaudio meta package would certainly be worth your examination then07:09
Flarupnice07:09
cfhowlett!ask|Flarup,07:09
ubottuFlarup,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:09
ObrienDaveHempathy SHHHH! don't tell everyone ;)07:10
FlarupLast nigth i wsa trying to config ethtool, so my XBMCBuntu would wake on lan07:10
Flarupbut I ran into a little problem that I hope you could help me with07:10
FlarupIM danish and total newbie with this, so i think im missunderstood some guides07:11
Flarupi followed this guidehttp://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=How-to:Set_up_Wake-On-Lan_(Ubuntu)#Install_ethtool07:12
cfhowlettFlarup, give us details.  we'll try to help07:12
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kgalahassajoin #virtualbox07:12
Flarupcould you please tell me what network interface number is ?07:12
Flarupis this the mac adress or the local ip adress07:13
cfhowlett!xbmc07:13
Flarup!xbmc07:15
Flarupdo you  understand my ?07:16
cfhowlettFlarup, understood.07:16
ObrienDave!4207:16
ubottuThe Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.07:16
cfhowlettFlarup, patience07:16
Flarupoki :) sorry07:17
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jony_easyriderin Ubuntu Server how can I see the path where is mounted my second partition?07:19
subatomichi07:19
hitsujiTMO!fstab | jony_easyrider07:20
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ubottujony_easyrider: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:20
cfhowlettsubatomic, treetings07:20
cfhowlettgreetings07:20
ObrienDavetourette's? ;)07:20
Flarup!ethtool07:20
subatomicN -> И, R -> Я, heh07:20
wafflejockjony_easyrider: mount command with no arguments will show all filesystem mounts07:21
subatomicamerican idiots, ha ha07:22
wafflejockFlarup: use man in the command line to lookup commands07:22
* cfhowlett throw insults and run. typical.07:22
jony_easyriderwafflejock, ty, it worked07:22
wafflejockjony_easyrider: np07:23
Flarup? sorry and do not know what you mean07:24
helmut_hi07:24
webdev13hi guys , i have no idea how to config apache in ubuntu , can you please help me how to set up virtual host ?07:25
hitsujiTMOFlarup: he mean type: man ethtool     to get the help docs for ethtool07:25
Flarupahh oki thanks07:25
Flarupman ethtool07:25
webdev13because im not familiar with ubuntu :(07:25
hitsujiTMOFlarup: in the terminal that is07:26
Flarupoki hehe07:26
Flarupbut could you please tell me what network interface is ? is it the local ip or the hardwares mac adress07:26
qwerty__ok guys i installed 12.04 on my desktop a while ago all i changed was the display manager and the window manager and now my sound dose not work07:27
hitsujiTMOFlarup: have a look at output of ifconfig07:27
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Flarupif i type ifconfig i got both the mac adress and the local ip, waht i need to no is what i have to write instead of eth0 when i config the ethtool07:29
FreezingColdCould someone run this for me?07:30
FreezingColdecho "`uname -s`//`uname -m`//`uname -r`//`uname -v`"07:30
webdev13my request ignored , because its silly ?07:31
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cfhowlett!patience|webdev13,07:31
ubottuwebdev13,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/07:31
cfhowlettwebdev13, ask in #ubuntu-server as well07:31
hitsujiTMOwebdev13: you can also ask in #httpd07:32
jnhghywebdev13: hope this helps: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts07:32
webdev13i'm not good at linux commands , and i'm afraid to do something will make our website down , in that time my boss will kick me07:34
qwerty__i read online that i should remove pulse audio?07:34
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: some apps require pulse audio07:35
jnhghywebdev13: fallowing the steps from digitalocean or given by a irc user has riscks.... set up a new computer set up the virtual host... (you can do it a few times...) get the handler... and the switch to the live site computer when you know that the steps you do work ... nobody will advice you to hit commands on a working web host when you don't know what thoes commands do ...07:36
qwerty__i have searched google and i cant seem to figure out why my sound has just stopped working07:37
qwerty__it is a ac9707:37
hitsujiTMO!sound: qwerty__07:37
lotuspsychjeqwerty__: did it happen after an update?07:37
hitsujiTMO!sound | qwerty__07:37
ubottuqwerty__: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.07:37
webdev13ok , i will test the commands first in development env.07:37
qwerty__i removed unity and am now using openbox so i cant do that07:38
webdev13but im bad at lunux commands07:38
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: have a look there. I'd start by seeing if you can play a sound directly with alsa: use aplay from command line to do that07:38
qwerty__i tryed aplay and nothing happens07:38
qwerty__like i said the sound worked fine before i removed unity and installed openbox07:39
qwerty__i also  removed lightdm if it matters07:39
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: did you try aplay /path/to/file07:39
qwerty__hitsujiTMO, yeah i tryed that before07:40
lotuspsychjeqwerty__: why did you remove unity, as you can login to openbox?07:40
qwerty__lotuspsychje, because i like using startx07:40
qwerty__lotuspsychje, with openbox07:40
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: have a look at alsamixer to see of its muted. hit m on a channel to mute/unmute.07:41
qwerty__cannot open mixer: No such file or directory07:41
lotuspsychjeqwerty__: maybe it removed needed files uninstalling unity07:41
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: install alsa-utils07:41
qwerty__alsa-utils is already the newest version.07:42
YowlMy browser has been freezing up, and its frozen up my system too, causing weird graphic problems, like where it shows chrome shrunk and semitransparent (can't take a screenshot of it because of PC being froze up every time this happens) Is there a log or something that could tell me what might be going on? Could I have malware attached to my browser?07:42
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: then try again: alsamixer07:42
lotuspsychjeYowl: when did this problem occur?07:42
qwerty__hitsujiTMO, same thing no such file or directory07:43
Yowllotuspsychje: plenty of times, including just before I came here. I was viewing a review site, and as I was scrolling down, the page would lock up and the browser would offer to kill the page after awhile.07:43
qwerty__hitsujiTMO, if i just type alsa i get something07:43
SolupusI installed citadel-suite and got everything working so far. When i tried to acess webcit via mydomain.com:8080 it works fine but when i try to access it through mydomain.com:4434 i get a connection timed out error07:43
lotuspsychje!details | Yowl07:43
ubottuYowl: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:43
Solupusi tried a test build without apache and https worked fine07:44
qwerty__Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}07:44
lotuspsychjeYowl: ubuntu version? upgrade? grafix card chipset and driver?07:44
Solupusbut once I added apache I started getting the connection was reset error07:44
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: looks like you messed something up if alsamixer is not there and alsa-utils is installed07:44
Solupustimed out = correction reset* sorry07:44
dreamy_what tag can i type on the command line to kow my internet ip? anyone helping?07:44
everesttjoin #cyanogenmod07:45
qwerty__hitsujiTMO, when trying to figure out whats going on i reinstalled alsa-utils07:45
everestt(oops..sorry)07:45
Yowllotuspsychje: radeon 6850, so it isnt necessarily maleware?07:45
ArchguyHow is there no one here?07:45
lotuspsychjeYowl: no i dont think its malware07:46
ArchguyAnyone know why this alias doesn't work: alias alias keymap="setxkbmap -layout 'fr,us' -option 'grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll'" I put it in .bash_aliases in Lubuntu 13.0407:46
Yowllotuspsychje: What would signs of maleware in a browser on ubuntu be?07:46
hitsujiTMOqwerty__: if you want to use openbox, you should install a minimal environment fisrt. then install the components on top of it so you know whats going on. so you should have installed ubuntu-server and install the packages on top of that07:46
wilee-nileeYowl, malware is not pointed at linux, not really the correct term07:47
qwerty__hitsujiTMO, ok ill start over then hahaha ill be back thanks07:47
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: my xchat icon on cairo dock doesnt start, and after running it from unity sidebar it opens second active icon in cairo, any clue?07:48
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, Hmm not sure I would drag it off when closed and make another launcher, have not really had that happen.07:49
lotuspsychjeYowl: you have system freezes when not browsing chrome?07:49
Yowlwilee-nilee: Well plugins don't care much about the OS because they interface with the browser, right? Couldn't it be some maleware installed in the browser so that the OS doesn't matter?07:49
xmetalhmm07:50
Yowllotuspsychje: I don't think so, but I often use my computer for browsing, so its hard to say for sure. Not sure if it happens in firefox or not, not been using it much07:50
ArchguyAnyone know why this alias doesn't work: alias alias keymap="setxkbmap -layout 'fr,us' -option 'grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll'" I put it in .bash_aliases in Lubuntu 13.0407:50
ArchguyHello, installed VMWare Tools and the CD mounts in Lubuntu but when I go into the folder /media/username/"Lubuntu 13.04" and try and read it I get ls: reading directory .: Input/output error07:50
wilee-nileeYowl, highly unlikely never seen one myself or here in 7 years of using open source.07:51
lotuspsychjeYowl: you might wanna dig in /var/log/syslog.1 to see if there are relevant errors maybe07:51
molavy1i can't understand why installtion of ubuntu on kvm take too long07:51
molavy1i have centos as host and want install ubuntu as guest access 3GB Ram and 4 core cpu07:51
molavy1i using libvirt and virtu manager07:52
molavy1i take too long to show each step07:52
GentoonStrangley my sound didnt work out of the box and I am having weird hibernation issues07:52
Gentoonanyways it didnt detect my sound, is there some simple app or script I can ru for it to try and detect it?07:53
GentoonI have installed Ubuntu on this machine so many times and never had issues this is weird07:53
Yowllotuspsychje: Considering it just happened, and considering there is no entries for today, it seems there are no answers in syslog.107:53
molavy1and use less than 10% of hardware assigned07:53
GentoonIt is 13.04 btw07:53
GentoonAnyone?07:54
lotuspsychjeYowl: your system freeze must have a cause, so somewhere it should have an error07:54
wilee-nileemolavy1, you sum it, ubuntu is not the best vm OS I have found anyway.07:54
molavy1for example it show me 5 minute a purple screen and then show select keyboard layout07:54
GentoonSureley there is some setup script or something that will attempt to find my sound card?07:54
molavy1which one is best to run web service on vm07:55
molavy1?07:55
GentoonOk btw it is sudo als force-reload07:56
Yowllotuspsychje: Not in syslog.1. What ever the issue, is, it seems to originate from the browser, ranging from momentary strange hickups to the aforementioned total system freezes. But its the browser that freezes first, then the rest of the system seems to panic and freeze up soon after.07:56
molavy1i don't know , that may cause of server host config , but it is default libvirt default config on centos and i don't change anything07:56
YowlI misspoke, the rest of the system doesn't necessarily freeze up soon after, it depends on a few factors, like how much else I try to do etc07:57
YowlI definitely haven't managed to get up system monitor during these browser freezeups though07:58
Nothing_MuchHow do I add a partition to the /home directory?07:58
jony_easyriderit's ok if I use "." in the a username in Ubuntu Server?07:58
ObrienDaveNothing_Much you don't add partitions to a directory. what do you mean07:59
YowlNothing_Much: I recommend naming the partition in gparted after making and formating to simply matters. You make the partition, format, mount it to /home, then you set ownership08:00
molavy1any idea ? best approach to make server visualize with two vm , one for web server and another for local network usage08:00
Nothing_MuchObrienDave, What I mean is I can cd into the partition without going to /media/08:00
YowlNothing_Much: I went through it with help here before, but I don't remember the particular commands for it.08:00
YowlNothing_Much: partitions are mounted whereever you want, whether it be /home or anywhere else08:01
Nothing_MuchSo how do I mount that partition on /home?08:01
jnhghyNothing_Much: see if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto08:01
yeyemansoftware updater wants to install something for chromium?? I don't even have chromium install to my knowledge08:02
yeyemanhow do I remove it?08:02
jnhghymolavy1: you have 1 server or 2 VMs?08:03
YowlNothing_Much: After that, if you can't add files to the partition, its because you haven't set ownership yet08:03
Nothing_MuchI am able to put files in the partition08:03
Nothing_MuchI just need to figure out how to mount them08:03
Nothing_Muchto /home08:04
jnhghyNothing_Much: using fstab, have you checked the webpage I've linked?08:04
Grimm_Hey , once again i will attempt to install ubuntu 13 next to my windows 7 , on a machine with UEFI . Last 2 times i tried , i gave up after a few days of frustration , but i found my courage again.08:04
Nothing_MuchI tried fstab08:04
Grimm_Is this the right channel for support for this ? i really would need step by step help08:04
Nothing_MuchAh08:04
MasterOfDisasterHey, I got a problem with polkit-kde: I installed the package, and the agent seems to get launched. But testing it with pkcheck says there's no agent to communicate with. If I use '--enable-internal-agent', the polkit related stuff works as expected, but KDE won't display any dialog.08:05
yeyemanhow do I remove "chromium security updates" from my software updates?08:05
Nothing_MuchI put it in the /home directory08:05
molavy1jnhghy: i have one server hp proliant dl380 g508:05
yeyemanI don't have chromium installed so I don't want it's security updates08:05
molavy1installed centos08:05
wafflejockGrimm_: yes, you're not likely to find someone who has your exact scenario but if you run thinigs by the chat and let people know when you're wary of a step you'll get feedback08:06
Nothing_MuchBut when I put it where my name is (where I wanna put it), it overwrites my documents, music, videos, etc folders08:06
Grimm_ok , im going to try. Last times everything got pretty messed up , and i am not that tech savy to understand everything , even i have been reading for ages about GRUB's , legacy modes , EFI partitions and whatever else , but i still feel my head can't undrstand all of it :p08:07
jnhghyNothing_Much: create a folder for it next to your name (I have a folder called RAID) in which you mount the partition...08:07
Nothing_MuchAh thanks08:07
wilee-nileeyeyeman, You ever install lubuntu, it used to have chromium?08:07
wafflejockGrimm_: yeah that's what I'm saying not sure any one person will have their head wrapped around every step but certainly a good place to get help along the way08:08
molavy1jnhghy: any idea?08:08
jnhghymolavy1: I still don't understand what is the exact issue: you host a website that is public and you can't access it from the localhost? or what? do you also have a gateway?08:09
Grimm_I got one SSD , split up in one small partition for the windows boot loader , and the rest of the SSD for windows 7 . On the second HDD i have in this machine , i create a GRUB boot partition of 500mb , a root partition , and a swap partition . Does this make sense ?08:09
molavy1again , i have raw server and want setup visualization on it, i install centos 6.4 as host08:10
wilee-nileeGrimm_, For what?08:10
molavy1then i setup libvirt on it and make vm machine08:11
Grimm_dual boot install of windows 7 and ubuntu 13 . windows on the SSD , and ubuntu on the HDD ?08:11
jony_easyriderI need a user friendly solution how can the users change their SSH password on my server08:11
molavy1i want setup ubuntu as web server08:11
wilee-nileeGrimm_, You mention efi earlier how is that related?08:11
Nmbr1jony_easyrider: do they login via CLI or GUI?08:12
roscogruenANYONE:  want to install linux on an acer aspire V5-122p-0643.  secure boot/uefi or something is blocking it.  ideas?08:12
jnhghymolavy1: now I undertand... sorry don't know...08:12
Grimm_i don't think its related , i was just stating that i have been reading a lot about all these things and EFI passed my mind ,08:12
Nmbr1jony_easyrider: if it is CLI why not have them type passwd?08:12
wilee-nilee!uefi | roscogruen08:12
ubotturoscogruen: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI08:12
Grimm_now im using this guide , i think its also applyable for the latest ubuntu ? http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/08:12
wafflejock!details | molavy1 where are you stuck?08:12
ubottumolavy1 where are you stuck?: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:12
molavy1but it take to long and i am in installation about 15 minute for each step showing08:12
molavy1i want install ubuntu version 13.10 , what command output you want know08:13
wafflejockmolavy1: are you installing ubuntu server edition or desktop edition?08:14
roscogruenwilee-nilee: what does that mean?  !uefi  ?08:14
wafflejockroscogruen: the !somethingHere are commands meant for the bot to respond to08:14
wilee-nileeroscogruen, Read what the bot says right after, about uefi, it is a bot prompt08:14
wafflejock!bot | roscogruen08:14
ubotturoscogruen: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots08:14
roscogruenoh, okay.  thank you.  i've been wondering08:15
roscogruenlol08:15
wafflejockroscogruen: no worries new to IRC I take it :)08:15
roscogruenquite08:15
roscogruenold user but not frequent08:15
wilee-nileeGrimm_, uefi is a bit of a mystery to most of us here, just a heads up really.08:15
wafflejockwilee-nilee: truth08:16
jony_easyriderNmbr1, what is CLI? Those user accounts are for accessing their own folders on the server. The server is like a file transfer server08:16
Grimm_yeah it seems to be :( and all these UEFI guides i find give different info as all systems seem to be slightly different08:16
RaginHamevening all08:17
wilee-nileeGrimm_, When it's an OEM they can be for sure.08:17
roscogruendo many people bypass this block easily when moving from Win8 to linux?08:17
Nmbr1jony_easyrider: CLI is command line interface. I would write a shell script and put it on their desktop that logs them in and issues the passwd command so they can type a new password08:18
wafflejockGrimm_: since you're in murky waters perhaps it's best to pull the SSD while doing the Linux install the do a bootrepair to get grub installed... just an idea08:18
scott_wroscogruen: running ubuntu on a UEFI system?08:18
hitsujiTMOroscogruen: uefi depends a lot on the motherboard manufacturer. For some it's simple, for others it difficult08:18
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ozgurhii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card?08:19
jony_easyriderNmbr1, do you recommend to give them a solution with using https://ssh.serverdo.in/ ?08:19
Grimm_ive tried running a USB with the boot repair disk (burned with unetbootin) , but all it does is show me some options at boot , if i select the boot repair option , it loads ubuntu and nothing happens , no reports of boot repair nothing..08:19
jony_easyriderNmbr1, it's safe to use that site?08:19
wilee-nileeGrimm_, bootrepair is run in the desktop08:19
ozguriwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?08:20
Grimm_ok , should i execute it from the command then ?08:20
Grimm_console i mean08:20
hitsujiTMOroscogruen: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?08:20
RaginHamanyone ever updated a network card in a lenovo? Switched out the RT3090 which came in my machine with a ThinkPenguin Atheros AR9285..... my speed tests are amazing. Perfect, consistent speed for over an hour (something I'd never get more than 1 minute worth before).08:20
roscogruengosh.   how could i determine beforehand if i should be making the switch?  (will i end up with tons of problems)08:20
wilee-nileeGrimm_, Is there a bootrepair option in grub now after running it? Is ubuntu installed?08:20
roscogruen14 i think08:21
wafflejockroscogruen: backup and don't worry08:21
Grimm_ubuntu is not yet installed , i want to first fresh format all drives and reinstall windows on the SSD as this current install has issues.08:21
hitsujiTMOroscogruen: the version number is on the iso (aything 14.xx) isnt released til next year08:21
roscogruenlooks like Grimm_ is having similar issue08:21
Grimm_i got tons of issues ! :D08:22
wafflejockand softwares only one of em :)08:22
wilee-nileeGrimm_, Bootrepair would be used to fix grub in general and the boots after all installs.08:22
Grimm_bloody modern systems what the hell was wrong with old bios :P08:22
RaginHamOnly problem, seems this BIOS has whitelisted devices. Keeps giving me a "140 - unsupported wireless device..." on the bootup, but seems to be working after each bootup.08:22
FargoneLs08:23
ozgurhii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card? iwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?08:23
Grimm_ok, so i can best format first , reinstall windows on the SSD , unplug the SSD , install linux on the HDD and THEN run boot repair ?08:23
roscogruenhitsujiTMO: i've no idea.  not important to me now08:23
wilee-nileeGrimm_, I have W8.1 on my msdos and 3 linux OS's I'm avoiding the uefi thang as long as I can.08:23
ikoniaGrimm_: don't unplug disks08:23
wafflejockGrimm_: yeah basically I was saying if you wanted to avoid tampering with the windows drive in case it had stuff you needed to keep08:23
wafflejockGrimm_: no need to unplug if it's all fresh08:23
ikoniaGrimm_: leave them both in at the same time, so that the driver order/list is the same all the way through08:23
Grimm_i got everything backed up on an external disk , and all external disks are disconnected now . Nothing too loose08:24
ikoniaGrimm_: to be honest, no real need to use boot repair, using the tool from within ubuntu and the install media should be enough, you also know you are using the same versions of things like grub as the ubuntu installer then08:24
wafflejockGrimm_: cool08:24
roscogruenGrimm_: are you having a hard time with uefi block?08:24
pouet78hello, does anyone knows where I can find help abous schroot?08:25
Grimm_terrible hard time. Last time i tried it , windows would immediatly boot , i could not get the boot loader to appear . Next to that having issues with graphics card and ubuntu , but that got solved with some command (nomodeset or soemthing)08:25
roscogruenis it Win8?08:25
RaginHampouet: what type of help?08:26
Grimm_win708:26
roscogruenk08:26
Grimm_aint touching windows 8 with a 50 feet pole hahaha08:26
RaginHampouet78: tried "man schroot" in terminal yet?08:26
roscogruenit looks like they've put roadblocks up so running linux on top of it is difficult.  very difficult08:27
pouet78I'd like t create a chroot which runs qemu automatically because it is armel on my amd6408:27
Grimm_yeah it feels like that they make it as hard as possible .08:27
roscogruenwell, at least we know the employees are actually working there now.08:28
Grimm_but anyway , just to summarize what im going to do , so if anything sounds wrong i hopefully know it before i start this process again.08:28
pouet78I already created one "from scratch" using mk-sbuild but now I have an armel image that I would likt to transform to a chroot08:29
roscogrueni'm thinking to pull out and not install ubuntu on this new laptop.  it is the girlfriend's anyhow08:30
pouet78I searched man and docs I don't understand how schroot knows to use qemu08:30
pouet78any clue?08:31
roscogruenGrimm_: and also make sure win8 isn't on any new machine i buy08:31
Grimm_1st format all drives . Then install windows 7 on the SSD , just like i would do standard without thinking about dual boot. If thats done , install linux on the HDD via 'something else' and create following partitions : 1= 500mb boot partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /boot.     2=root partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /     3=4 gig SWAP   ... Device for boot loader /dev/sdb08:32
Grimm_does that sound sensible ? or am i lost already08:32
SerusHi08:33
SerusI'm currently booted in a Live usb of ubuntu using UEFI08:33
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: if you're using uefi boot you need an efi system partition too (50mb should be enough)08:34
SerusI'm not Grimm_ But I am using UEFI boot08:34
Serusand I already have a UEFI partition08:34
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: ahh sorry, if you're installing win 7 then it will create it for you08:35
Grimm_ok , so i don't need to worry about EFI at all ? i still dont get the EFI thing fully im afraid08:35
Guest34904i am in greece and  i see official docs https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek. how can i see it in english?08:35
wilee-nileeGrimm_, So is this a uefi computer from a purchase and it had W8 or a custom build that happens to have a uefi setup?08:35
Grimm_custom build with a Asus Arock motherboard with UEFI on there when i got it08:36
hitsujiTMOgrimm_: instead of an mbr bootstrap, the OS looks for a EFI boot partition. when it finds it, it looks there for the various OS bootstraps. That's the only real difference.08:36
wilee-nileeGrimm_, I think you can set the bios as legacy and make msdos partition tables and just install like normal.08:36
SerusKinda the same here.08:36
Grimm_had windows 7 also preinstalled . machine comes from a site where you put your hardware together , they make the thing , install the windows you want and deliver it like that08:36
SerusYeah you probably already have an EFI partition then08:37
GnikHello IRC world08:37
SerusSame here.08:37
SerusHi Gnik08:37
wilee-nileeGrimm_, Ah, so the W7 was gpt uefi?08:37
Grimm_euhm not sure what to answer there08:38
Seruswilee-nilee, probably, it's the case with my laptop atleast08:38
SerusGrimm_, Are you in windows?08:38
Grimm_yup08:38
wilee-nileeGrimm_, Can you run the bootinfo summary on the bootrepair it would give us any info on gpt?08:38
DaxroJust had an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS production server become unresponsive, responded to pings no nginx, ssh, etc kinda weird not sure how to investigate this08:39
SerusOk click on start, then rightclick on computer and then click manage08:39
Grimm_ok im in computer management08:39
SerusOk then click on harddrive manager or anything that looks like that08:39
Grimm_i can try to run the bootinfo summary , if i figure out how to get the bootrepair to work in that ubuntu desktop08:39
Grimm_disk management? im there08:40
SerusMy windows is in dutch so it might not be completely accurate with other languages08:40
Grimm_i speak dutch , mine is english but i can follow i guess08:40
hitsujiTMO!bootrepair | Grimm_ info on installing it here08:40
wilee-nileeGrimm_, seems like Serus knows how to conform a gpt from windows.08:40
hitsujiTMO!boot-repair | Grimm_ info on installing it here08:40
wilee-nileeconfirm08:40
SerusOk do you have like a 100~200MB partition 1?08:40
Grimm_100mb system reserved08:40
Grimm_on disk 008:40
Serusdoes it have a label?08:41
Guest34904how can i see official documentation webpage in english?08:41
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair thats info on installing boot repair.08:41
Grimm_alright thanks for that link , ill read into it in a sec08:41
hitsujiTMOSerus: that 100mb is the efi system partition08:41
Nmbr1i've never used it.08:41
Nmbr1as a general rule i like to keep anything account related in house08:41
pouet78Daxro: you should have physical access08:41
SerushitsujiTMO, yes I think so too, but it's probably labeled SYSTEM.08:41
Grimm_im not sure if it has a label , don't know where too look fore08:41
Serusif it's labeled SYSTEM then it's the EFI partition08:42
Seruswell it says system reserved so I'm 90% sure you already have an EFI partition.08:42
hitsujiTMOSerus: afaik, there's usually no labels on efi partitions even with windows.08:42
Grimm_it just says " system reserved  100mb NTFS , healthy "08:42
wilee-nileeGuest34904, try bringing it up then add /en to the end08:42
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: of its NTFS then its not efi system partition08:43
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SerusGrimm_, NTFS? Hmm, I'm not completely sure if that's EFI.08:43
GnikCan I remove win7 off my laptop and make ubuntu my only OS?08:43
hitsujiTMOgnik: yes08:43
SerusGnik, yes, if you want to.08:43
Gnikhow? is there a tut?08:44
SerusIt's really easy.08:44
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: are you in the live cd now?08:44
SerusDo you have ubuntu installed or are you in a live environment?08:44
Grimm_no , im still in windows 7 , i havent started to format or anything yet , tried to figure out what road to take before i start walking08:44
SerusI see08:44
GnikI booted off a USB08:44
Grimm_im going to take my tablet in a second , to get on the IRC there , while i start the process on the machine im currently typing on08:45
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: can you boot the live cd. there's a few tools there that can show us exactly what you have08:45
wilee-nileeGnik, This computer ever have W8 a uefi setup?08:45
SerusOk Gnik are you familiar with linux?08:45
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: theres an irc client on the live cd (or at least you can install one)08:45
GnikI used kali linux but not alot08:45
Gnikso im a noob08:45
GnikXD08:45
SerushitsujiTMO, I installed hexchat on live usb08:46
SerusXchat*08:46
Grimm_ok , is it sensible to first already install Windows 7 on the SSD as i would normally do without considering the dual boot ? If thats done ill plug in the liveusb for ubuntu and get into that enviroment ?08:46
hitsujiTMOAhh, so it needs to be installed, but at least you can install it08:46
SerusGnik, that's OK, how is your understanding on computers?08:46
kubancHellow! I get this error after i installed extplorer in /var/www folder: failed to spawn mysql main process unable to execute: permission denied08:47
hitsujiTMOGrimm_: its easier to if windows is installed first.08:47
SerusGrimm_, Yes, ALWAYS install windows first. Windows "breaks" the old bootloader.08:47
Grimm_allright i start with that first. Nothing special i have to consider when installing windows ?08:47
SerusNope, just keep spamming Next08:47
Grimm_ok08:47
Seruswell08:47
Serusyou might consider not taking up the complete harddrive08:48
wilee-nileeGrimm_, If you are building partitions it is a manual install.08:48
Serussince resizing partitions can take a very long time.08:48
hitsujiTMOkubanc: I'm not sure extplorer is even being developed any more. might be an idea to try an alternative08:48
Grimm_I generally use the entire SSD for windows as i use windows often for gaming and some more heavy 3D modelling software08:49
GnikWhen I remove win7 will it also delete all the files/games/programs and viruses ?08:49
SerushitsujiTMO, What device should I select for bootloader installation? The EFI partition, or just /dev/sda?08:49
SerusGnik, everything will be gone.08:49
Gnikthats good08:49
hitsujiTMOSerus: if you see that then you're not in UEFI mode install08:49
Grimm_its a 128gig SSD drive , and next to that i got a 1TB HDD , that i wanted to split up in one part of 100gig for Ubuntu , and the rest of that drive in NTFS as a "data partition" that all OS could reach08:50
veryhappyhi guys, can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.08:50
SerusGnik, are you completely sure you want that?08:50
kubanchitsujiTMO: well it broke my http server08:50
kubanchitsujiTMO: i think permissions to my folders changed08:50
Gnikyes, im 100% sure08:50
SerushitsujiTMO, this command "dmesg | grep "EFI v"" gives me the EFI version I'm running.08:50
SerusGnik, Ok, you where in a live USB right?08:51
hitsujiTMOSerus: whats the output of: efibootmgr08:51
Seruslet me check08:51
Seruscurrently not installed :p08:51
hitsujiTMOSerus: you may need to do: sudo efibootmgr08:52
hitsujiTMOSerus: install it onto the live cd08:52
GnikWhen I turn on my laptop it gives me a choice to boot up in win7 or ubuntu, thats all i know Serus08:52
ZujkisNxHi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?08:52
Daxropouet78: Why would I need physical access to a server ?08:52
SerusGnik, I see, and you are in ubuntu?08:53
SerushitsujiTMO, installation failed O.o08:53
hitsujiTMOgnik: if you want ubuntu solely, i would suggest just backing everything up and doing aclean install08:53
Serusshould I do a apt-get update first?08:53
Gnikyes im in ubuntu now08:53
hitsujiTMOSerus: yup08:53
svectorwhat shall I configure so that programs shall have the file access permissions they need? Eclipse says it can access android sdk's adb...08:54
Gnikclean install?08:54
hitsujiTMOgnik: as in wipe your current install of windows and ubuntu and install a fresh copy of ubuntu08:54
SerushitsujiTMO, It's in use by the installer >.<08:54
hitsujiTMOserus :P08:55
Gnikand how do i do that?08:55
hitsujiTMOgnik: tell the install disk. it will give you that option when installing08:56
Serusrequesting permission to paste 8 lines of output08:56
hitsujiTMOSerus: paste.ubuntu.com08:56
GnikCan i do it via a USB?08:56
hitsujiTMO!usb | gnik yes you can!08:56
ubottugnik yes you can!: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:56
Serushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6363579/08:56
Gnikthanks everyone for the help08:57
devilskinI moved files from a ext3 file system to fat32 system and burned it to dvd and both comes up with files damaged. I know this because I md5sum the pictures on the source drive the ext3 drive and when I check them from this md5sum I get fails I get different files that fail when I do the backup again... does anyone know what I can do to get the files to another file system intacted?08:57
hitsujiTMOSerus: cool, so you're probably in uefi install so. did it actually ask you where to install grub to?08:57
devilskinwhat should I do?08:57
SerushitsujiTMO, uh, what install type? I selected manual08:58
SerusI want to make sure nothing gets overwritten :)08:59
SerusI mean I selected "Something else"08:59
hitsujiTMOserus: when you asked me where to install the bootloader to... did the installer ask you that?08:59
Serusyes, it asks that at the partition scheme09:00
WoodsmanDoes anyone in here have any idea why 250,000 insertions into a standard binary heap would complete half as quickly as 125,000 insertions followed by 125,000 deletions? I thought insertions were O(log(N)) and deletions were O(1), so it doesn't make sense that twice as many expensive operations takes half as long09:00
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ZujkisNxHi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?09:01
SerushitsujiTMO, sending you a screenshot in a sec09:01
hitsujiTMOSerus: that must be a bug in the installer then. it can only install the bootloader to the efi system partition. lol, was just going to ask you for one.09:01
hitsujiTMO!ot | Woodsman09:02
ubottuWoodsman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:02
hitsujiTMOZujkisNx: is something else using that port?09:02
SerushitsujiTMO, http://dragoon.genyaa.org/install.png09:03
RaginHamAlright, seems like alot of the major problem users are winding down.09:03
AndroUsertest09:03
AndroUserdmmed\09:03
RaginHamI'll try and address my problem again.09:03
RaginHamLenovo's darned blacklist wireless devices. Updating BIOS my only option?09:04
SerushitsujiTMO, WOW the site is SLOW, I need to tell my friend to restart his server.09:04
Ben64RaginHam: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, maybe try ##hardware ?09:05
RaginHamThe card seems to be working without a hitch... but I get the 104 - unsupported wireless on boot.09:05
RaginHamk09:05
RaginHamthanks Ben.09:05
Grimm3ok cool , i got on the irc on my tablet pc , im going to format my SSD and the HDD , install windows 7 on the SSD like nothing special09:05
hitsujiTMOserus: :) yeah that looks to be a bug in the installer. i would leave it as it is09:06
SerushitsujiTMO, Anyway you should be able to see it after a while.09:06
SerushitsujiTMO, I can also select /dev/sda109:06
richwhy does ubuntu suck so much?09:06
Serusrich, I think this is not the right channel to talk about why ubuntu is bad.09:06
richney jsut kidding im using ubuntu now for years...09:07
Serusoh lol09:07
richbut im not very happy....with it. the problem is im not very happy with any distro09:07
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* Serus was going to use linux mint until UEFI destroyed his linux dreams.09:08
hitsujiTMOrich this is a support channel, if you want to have a chat hop in #ubuntu-offtopic09:08
RaginHamVanilla Ubi? Tried Kubuntu or Xubuntu perhaps?09:08
pouet78Daxro, To understand why ping is ok and othe services are not09:09
SerusTo be honest I'm sceptical ubuntu will even run on my UEFI system. Seeing I tried to get that working for 24hours straight.09:09
Grimm3never loose hope young padawan , many have succceeded before you !09:09
svectorI can't copy files to directories in /  like /opt. how do i give the privilege to do so without going to the terminal and using sudo?09:10
ikoniaSerus: I'm sure it will run as an OS, getting the bootloader setup can be a problem depending on your EFI implementation provided by your vendor09:10
Grimm3maar ik begrijp je wel , erg demotiverend als het zo moeilijk gaat toch09:10
ikoniasvector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt09:10
SerusAnyway, hitsujiTMO, /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?09:10
wilee-nileeSerus, We see people dual boot on a uefi everyday here. its just a bit of work for some.09:10
hitsujiTMOserus /dev/sda09:10
SerusGrimm3, Yeah, but let's stick to English :)09:10
SerushitsujiTMO, Got it.09:11
Grimm3oki09:11
Seruswilee-nilee, a "bit" :p09:11
svectorikonia, chmod or chown?09:11
ikoniasvector: depends which you do09:11
Daxropouet78: But how would physical access help, when I have ssh access now ?09:12
ikoniasvector: could be one, both, neither, depending on your approach09:12
Serushow big should I make the swap partition? I have 12GB ram and I tend to never shut down my laptop. Just closing it.09:12
Grimm3ok stupid little question , but whats the IRC command if you want to send a message to another user in this window , without private chat (like you answer to me and i see it in red?)09:12
Ben64Serus: do you ever want to hibernate?09:12
svectorikonia, I just want to be able to move files to any directory that I want09:12
pouet78Daxro, Oh thought ssh were KO09:12
hitsujiTMOserus: if you want hibernation then same as ram, if not 4gb should be enough09:13
wilee-nilee!tab | Grimm309:13
ubottuGrimm3: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:13
svectorGrimm3, their name followed by comma or :09:13
pouet78Daxro, you only have nginx KO?09:13
svectorGrimm3, nickname09:13
SerusBen64, That's closing my laptop and it will go in a low power state right?09:13
Daxropouet78: It was during the non responsiveness for about 2 hours09:13
Grimm3svector, lets try that09:13
svectorGrimm3,  :)09:13
Ben64svector: the ability to move files wherever you want anytime is not very secure at all09:13
MasterOfDisasterI'm having a problem with polkit-kde-1, its agent doesn't register itself properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363652/09:13
Grimm3that worked ? Sweet , learned something new again09:13
ikoniasvector: if that's what you want without sudo - you're going to break your system, you need to apply thought to your file systems09:13
Daxropouet78: Everything was not responding apart from pings, got a data center dude to reboot it09:14
Ben64Serus: depends on your settings, hibernate is shutdown + save ram to HD to resume where you were at09:14
DaxroBut not sure what caused it09:14
svectorBen64, so what is a good approach to move around files in nautilus?09:14
hitsujiTMOIf you mention somesone name Grimm3, in a message, no matter where you put it, most irc clients will ping that user09:14
pouet78Daxro, ok so check in logs i you see anything special before reboot09:14
SerusThat's what I currently do in windows 7, but my swapfile isn't nearly as big. Iirc I only have 3GB swap on windows.09:14
Ben64svector: why would you want to move files randomly around? what are you trying to accomplish?09:14
DaxroEvery service we use was fine as far as the logs go09:14
Grimm3ok cool , really handy to know09:15
svectorikonia, that's right but that means I have to use the terminal all the time09:15
ikoniasvector: no it doesn't09:15
DaxroApart from about 2 hour gap in ever log kinda like the drive was read only for a while09:15
pouet78Daxro, what about system (/var/log/syslog)09:15
hitsujiTMOserus: closing lid defaults to suspend. you can change that to hibernation if you can get hibernation working09:15
SerusOk, then can somebody tell me the differences between them?09:16
svectorBen64, i wanted to move some files to /opt and couldn't do it in nautilus ...09:16
hitsujiTMOserus, windows has a seperate hibernation file to the swap09:16
Ben64svector: you were already given the answer to that specific thing09:16
svectorBen64, can you tell me how to accomplish that?09:17
SerushitsujiTMO, I see,I guess I'll google the differences for now.09:17
Ben64<ikonia> svector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt09:18
hitsujiTMOserus, in suspend the laptop is in a low sleep, but still somewhat running. hibernation is more like a shutdown, ram is dumped to the swap file.09:18
asdasdsvector: if you know password, try alt+f2 'gksu nautilus'09:18
svectorBen64,  on properties it says "You are not an owner so cannot change settings"09:19
Ben64svector: right. the easiest way to change owner is from the command line09:19
hitsujiTMOsvector: what they're trying to tell you to do is create a user group. add your user to that group. chown the /opt directory to root:that group. then chmod g+ws the /opt directory. then relog and you can safely do what you want09:20
Grimm3one last IRC noob question , can i turn these join quit messages off with a command ?09:20
SerushitsujiTMO, I guess to enable hibernation the only thing I can do is 12GB swap right?09:20
Daxropouet78: There is 1 hour gap in /var/log/syslog09:21
hitsujiTMOserus: its a bit more envolved then that, but you should at least give it 12gb swap if you do want to use it09:21
Serus12288 is 12GB? or 12000?09:21
Serusseeing a megabyte is a million bytes here.09:22
DJonesGrimm3: Which IRC client are you using09:22
hitsujiTMOserus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate        12288MB09:22
DanielFewYes, nickname worked this time :P09:22
Grimm3androIRC on my android tablet09:22
Grimm3its different for every client ? then i know to google on this client specificly09:23
Daxropouet78: Anyway cheers for the help, My manager is being an arse today so I cannot be bothered to help him anymore.09:23
svectorhitsujiTMO, thanks a lot09:23
svectorBen64, I now get it. Thanks09:23
DanielFewIf I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this?09:23
DJonesGrimm3: Grimm3 Yeah, every client is different09:23
hitsujiTMOserus: in that partition tool 1 MB = 1048576 B ... but 1G = 1000 MB ... its a really confused partitioner09:23
DanielFewOh, and the file they execute has to be able to interact with everything in /home/network and /home/network/directory09:24
SerushitsujiTMO, yeah lol09:24
DJonesGrimm3: Looks like there should be an option in the settings menu, buts that about all I can suggest09:25
hitsujiTMOserus: i normally setup may partitions with cfdisk, or cgdisk instead. much more sane09:25
SerusCan you help me find  the right keyboard layout?09:26
hitsujiTMOSerus: what country are you in?09:26
Grimm3cant find it , so be it09:26
hitsujiTMOserus: ahh nl09:26
hitsujiTMOserus: is there a euro symbol on 4?09:27
DanielFewIf I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory09:27
SerusNormally on windows 7 it's Dutch - English international. But that's not here. And now I'm doing annoying stuff like this: "Iḿ itś"09:27
SerushitsujiTMO, http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/158162.jpg09:28
hitsujiTMOserus: leave it as plain old dutch. you can change it after.09:28
buuWhat part of bash/ubuntu generates the "program X is not installed type apt-get.." ?09:28
brian101quit09:28
hitsujiTMOserus: that looks like a US layout09:28
buuAnd why is it going off when a program is actually installed09:29
wafflejockbuu: what program09:29
SerushitsujiTMO, Yeah, but I need it a little bit different, I normally can type these: ḿ ś09:29
wafflejockbuu: is which finding it?09:29
pouet78buu, command-not-found package09:30
buuOh, my fault!09:30
buuI had a bad alias, fixed!09:30
buuBut for the sake of curiosity, what does trigger that message/09:30
buuAnd how does it know?!09:30
simonsimcityHi, all09:30
wafflejockbuu: a package name is not necessarily a binary name and it may not be in the path09:30
Grimm3so i am in mu UEFI setup , and i found this setting 'launch EFI shell from filesystem device' , is that something usefull for my quest of installng windows 7 and ubuntu ?09:30
wim66Serus: Engels (US, internationaal met dode toetsen)09:31
wafflejockbuu: not sure exactly about it triggering the apt-get part but basically it's just looking for executable scripts and binaries on your path that match09:31
hitsujiTMOSerus: set it to dutch for now. you can easily change it later09:31
buucommand_not_found_handle09:31
Seruswim66, I'm in english ubuntu ^^, but that isn't completely the right one.09:31
simonsimcityI have a problem that seems to be quite strange ... I installed a fresh VM with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and set up the network env ...09:32
simonsimcityOnce in a while, the DHCP client jumps in and changes the IP address back ....09:32
ItsMeLennyi'm trying to compile http://fsv.sourceforge.net/ on 12.04 precise and i get configure: error: Cannot find proper GTK+ version and  checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1... no, any help would be much appreciated09:32
simonsimcityafter waiting for maybe 3min, it switches back, to what I configured as static-IP ...09:32
hitsujiTMOSerus: ask about the layout in #ubuntu-nl09:33
simonsimcityI just see, that sendmail is active at that time ...09:33
simonsimcityAnyone had this problem before?09:33
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: how are you setting the ip?09:33
SerushitsujiTMO, OK :)09:34
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: I updated the /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted network-interface.09:35
simonsimcityWould you like to see a copy of that?09:35
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: what ubuntu is this? server or desktop?09:35
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: Ubuntu Server09:35
DarsVaedais there any fix or workaround for the apple io7 trust issue available yet?09:35
moondoggyHas anyone had errors with Perl doing a dist-upgrade on 12.04 recently?09:35
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: can you pastebin the interfaces config so please09:36
Grimm3im in the windows 7 install menu ,  just to be sure , i take the x64 architecture , not the x86 ?09:36
Ben64Grimm3: windows 7 install menu?09:37
Grimm3yeah fresh install of windows before i will install ubuntu , like i was saying earlier09:37
Grimm3just dont want to mess up here alreay09:37
Ben64well you should ask ##windows about windows stuff09:37
SerusGrimm3, most of the time it depends on the RAM you have09:37
Grimm38 gig ddr3 ?09:38
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/AxnbS0kb09:38
Grimm3ben64, im asking this here as i am in the process of installing windows 7 AND ubuntu on this machine with UEFI setup , and ive had a very hard time failing at this in the past , so i rather ask everything here now to be sure , please dont feel offennded09:40
SerusGrimm3, x6409:40
Grimm3ok thx09:40
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: that eth0:1 looks wrong. why is it a different network? you using bridged networking or nat?09:41
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: I use NAT. But I can't see what this does to the problem here. This network is stable. It's just eth0, that switches back to the ip-address this machine had during installation of Ubuntu.09:42
simonsimcityI also have another machine with exactly the same setup (different Ubuntu-version) that has the same network-settings. I don't have that kind of problems there...09:42
Grimm3in the partition table , it now created 100mb system reserved partition , and the rest of that SSD is fully for windows , primary. Is that ok , do i have to create that EFI thing here already or no worries ?09:42
simonsimcity->network-setup I mean :)09:43
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: have you installed network-manager or anything else similar?09:43
veryhappyhey guys, i know you're all reading and writing a lot and might miss something, but please take of this question that i already wrote before a while: can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.09:43
veryhappythanks09:43
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: If it was installed by default, yes :) Haven't installed anything like that by knowing ...09:44
SerushitsujiTMO, It's installed, what should I do now?09:44
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hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: can you comment out the eth0 and eth0:1 completely and see if it gets an ip after rebooting09:45
Serusanswering my own question: "reboot"09:45
SerusAwesome it got added to the EFI boot menu09:45
SerusOther distros can learn from this. (Looking at you linux mint)09:45
Grimm3serus, im at that partition table to install windows , anything special i have to look here in order to install ubuntu later ? it located 100mb syste reserved and the rest of the SSD is the main partition to install windows on. Nothing ele i got to fix here now ?09:46
hitsujiTMOSerus: if you want you can customise the efi boot menu entry (change it from ubuntu)09:46
Grimm3second HDD is just unallocated space for the moment09:46
hitsujiTMOGrimm3: just 2 partitions?09:47
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: nope - just the loopback-network that's loaded now ...09:47
ddaaaguys, how do I change the default apps in ubuntu?09:48
ddaaathey keep reverting back whenever I restart my computer09:48
Grimm3currently for the install of windows first . disk 0 partition 1 = 100mb system reserved , disk 0 partition 2 = 111.7gig primary ,     disk 1 unallocated space 931gig (this drive will get one partition for ubuntu , and another 500gig partition for data acesible from all os)09:49
Grimm3or should i make those partitions for ubuntu now already ?09:49
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: hmm, odd issue so, does the issue happen with just the eth0:1 commonented out?09:49
k3rv1nCan someone who's running 13.10 do me a favor and run this?... dpkg -S `ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime-service | grep libical.so.1 | cut -f3 -d' '` | head -109:49
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: or does it happen if you set the name of the virtual interface to eth0:0 instead of eth0:109:50
k3rv1nI'm trying to track a bug that's preventing my clock applet from displaying09:50
SerusGrimm3, which OS will you be using more?09:50
SerusDepending on that make the windows partition smaller or bigger.09:50
k3rv1nit seems my indicator-datetime-service is link against libical.so.0 and also libical.so.1 but my Ubuntu cames with libical.so.1 only09:51
Grimm3hard to say , both of them , windows for gaming and heavy software like video editing or 3d modelling , linux for 'daily' computing , like writing , internet09:51
ActionParsnipGrimm3: blender is good for 3d modelling etc09:51
Grimm3so i thought to allocate the entire SSD for windows , as the more demanding and large software would run from windows09:51
SerusGrimm3, Then I would make windows bigger.09:52
SerusOh you have 2 harddrives09:52
hitsujiTMOgrimm3: if windows is not making a 3rd partition then your installing as mbr not efi. leave ubuntu set up it's own partitions09:52
Grimm3yup , its the entire SSD now for windows09:52
Grimm3ok windows is not making that 3h partition. so i dont allocate anything yet for ubuntu , we will deal with that when i try to install ubuntu ?09:52
SerusGrimm3, Yes.09:53
Grimm3cool , installing windows started , and now for a smoke09:54
SerusGrimm3, Just do as you said, windows on SSD and ubuntu on the other hdd09:54
hitsujiTMOgrimm3: yeah, worry about the ubuntu partitions when your installing ubuntu. you can't specify linux filesystems in the windows installer so there's no point in setting it now09:54
SerusI'm rebooting.09:54
Serusbrb09:54
Grimm3allright , damm you guys are smart09:54
Grimm3im quite tech savy if it comes to windows , and my entire family knows when to reach me when something is wrong on windows , but if i get to these things , i feel such a dumb nooob09:55
hitsujiTMOgrimm3: you learn from doing it again and again :P    making mistakes is the best way to learn09:57
Grimm3thats true !09:58
Grimm3noooooooooooo09:59
ActionParsnipwhy not ubuntu and windows on the ssd with user data, /var and swap on the platter based drive?09:59
Grimm3windows cannot install required files , the file may be corrupt or missing09:59
ActionParsnipant windows swap and %temp% on the platter too09:59
Grimm3so my usb disk didnt write properly09:59
Grimm3damm you windows , damm you unetbootin10:00
ActionParsnipGrimm3: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?10:00
SerushitsujiTMO, IT WORKED!!!!!10:00
Grimm3nope :( lets do that now10:00
SerusWOOT10:00
Grimm3Omg your in serus ? you actually have them both running ?10:00
SerusGrimm3, Not sure if win7 is broken now :p10:01
SerusBut I think so10:01
Grimm3so there is ligth at the end of the tunnel ! hopefully..10:01
SerusThere is10:01
hitsujiTMO!yay | serus10:01
ubottuserus: Glad you made it! :-)10:01
SerusHoly.. I wanted to type I've and this is what I got. ǘ10:02
Seruswtf is that O.o10:02
Grimm3sanskrit ?10:02
hitsujiTMOserus: did you choose US - international?10:03
SerusGnash or adobe? (I care about what works best)10:03
SerushitsujiTMO, Yes.10:03
hitsujiTMOSerus the tick key is acting as a modifier key10:03
SerusI know10:04
SerusBut it works a bit different in windows as you can mix languages there.10:04
Grimm3o great , bootmrg is missing10:04
SerusI can also mix languages on the raspberry pi10:04
marlo\j #showoff-db10:04
hitsujiTMOserus: adobe don't support linux anymore. if you install chrome you get the flash pepper plugin which is the best one available10:05
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: Adding it as eth0:0 didn't help ... will now try to disable it ...10:05
vasislavHELP10:05
SerushitsujiTMO, Iḿ using FF10:05
vasislavintel 6205 wifi is giving me PROBLEMS10:05
vasislavits using the iwlwifi driver and "11n_disable=1" does not work10:06
vasislavis there some firmware?10:06
hitsujiTMOserus: i've no experience with gnash. but the adobe installer will install a slightly older flash player10:06
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SerusI'll try gnash10:07
dannymichelso ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?10:08
hitsujiTMOvasislav: what version of ubuntu are you on?10:08
vasislav13.1010:08
vasislavUbuntu Studio XFCE10:08
linuxuz3ris there skype for ubuntu10:08
linuxuz3rso dumb10:08
hitsujiTMOvasislav: is it working at all?10:09
vasislavyes but hangs all the time10:09
vasislavhave to keep reloading pages10:09
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dannymichellinuxuz3r, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/10:09
hitsujiTMOlinuxuz3r: yes, you can get it from skype webiste10:09
lecoeus Serus: i recommend that you do not try gnash10:09
vasislavswitched hard drive to something with ath9k driver (atheros card) and its perfect10:09
Seruslecoeus, why not?10:09
vasislavmeaning a machine with atheros instead of intel 620510:09
vasislavswitched card to intel 6300, problem persisted10:09
lecoeusit's a free replacement for flash from the fsf but it is not perfect10:09
lecoeusand when i say not perfect, i mean it is barely usable sometimes and not usable other times10:10
olf-folksok long story short i installed ubuntu server followed by xinit and openbox  my sound is not working10:10
hitsujiTMOvasislav: that's an old enough wireless card so you're prob on a decent driver for it. For issues like that it's simplest to just replace the card for one with better linux support10:11
olf-folksi installed alsa-utils  when i go to run alsamixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory10:11
vasislavhitsujiTMO, don't all intel cards have 11n problems?10:11
vasislavits gotten worse ever since kernel 3.510:11
vasislavproblem started in 3.8 kernel10:12
hitsujiTMOvasislav: anyone i've seen has had to disable n10:12
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, i installed the server edition like you said with the same results btw10:12
vasislavand in 3.11 is bad10:12
dannymichelso ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?10:12
linuxuz3rhow do i install deb pkgs?10:12
vasislavdisabling N only cut the problem in half10:12
vasislavping become 250 instead of 56010:12
olf-folkslinuxuz3r,  dpkg -i package.deb10:12
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: so you installed: alsa and alsa-utils right?10:13
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hitsujiTMOolf-folks: then you need to add yourself to the sound group and relog10:13
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, i installed alsa-utils is alsa a septate package?10:13
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: yes you need to install alsa and alsa-utils10:14
Grimm3hey , im again trying to install windows , but this time it made 2 extra partitions , one system , one MSR , and then the primary windows partition  Is that this EFI partition talked about earlier ?10:14
paperke67Hi everybody, I cann't get my Atheros Wireless Network Adapter to work. Searched the net for several days. Could not find solution. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/10:14
Grimm3( installing windows first before installing ubuntu , before i get shot here...)10:14
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok it says alsa is already newest ver10:14
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: once that is done add your user to sound group: sudo usermod -aG audio username                     make sure you do "-aG"10:15
vasislavHP in all its BRILLIANCE puts a wifi card LIST in the bios, so only approved cards will boot, otherwise it says to shutdown and remove the "unapproved" wifi card10:15
vasislavfor elitebooks10:15
vasislavlike some PROFITEERING GLUTTONS!10:15
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok i added myself to the group10:16
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: then try alsamixer again10:16
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory10:16
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: can you pastebin the exact output of: alsamixer10:17
ActionParsnipvasislav: pays to shop smart then :)10:17
vasislavi do!10:18
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, it works as root maybe i need to relogin after adding my self to sound?10:18
vasislavbut... but... i like those navpoint thing10:18
Grimm3hitsujiTMO, when im trying to install windows now , it created 3 partitions on the SSD , one 100mb system reserved , one 128mb MSR (reserved) , and then the primary partition. Is the MSR partition that EFI thing ? Is it ok like this ?10:18
vasislavonly HP and Lenovo seem to make the pointer in the keyboard thing10:18
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: yes you need to relog for groups to take place10:18
olf-folkskkbrb10:18
hitsujiTMOgrimm3: cool that first one should be the efi system partition10:18
Grimm3so just let be and install windows ?10:19
vasislavI"LL BE BACK, just wait for me here...10:19
hitsujiTMOgrimm3: msr is probably BCD. yes install windows away10:19
Grimm3ok sweet ,  found the liveCD and a usb dvd drive , the live USB didnt create 3th partition10:20
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olf-folksok now alsamixer is working10:20
SerusGrimm3, Ofcourse it didn't10:21
GnikQUIT10:21
Grimm3sounds like logic in your world , :D I have no idea whats going on hahahaha10:21
paperke67Need help. I'm not able to install my Atheros (AR5212/AR5213) wifi card. Can anybody help?10:22
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: make sure master is not muted. m key will mute unmute it10:22
simonsimcityhitsujiTMO: Do you know what those entries in the dmesg could mean? http://pastebin.com/KYKLz4Xf Think it has something to do with the problem, even so it didn't occur again until now.10:23
Grimm3ok i got to go to the doctor now , ill let windows install meantime , when im back ill start the ubuntu process ,thank you for all advice already !10:25
ActionParsnippaperke67: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue10:26
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: i'm not up on apparmor but i believe you must tell it to configure it with a profile before it will act upon anything. if you haven't configured one then it should not be causing you an issue.10:26
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: i could be wrong on that if there are default configurations set tho10:27
vmachineis it possible to open up a file in nano without the comment lines?10:27
thomson112does skype work on 13.10?10:27
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ljunggrenHow is there no triplebuffer support for Linux?10:29
ljunggrenNow when Steam for linux is released that should really come in handy10:29
hitsujiTMOsimonsimcity: hmm, just looked at my apparmor config files and there does seem to be some sort of default config there for dhclient10:31
paperke67ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l10:31
ActionParsnipthomson112: should do, yes10:31
DanielFewIf I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory10:32
ActionParsnippaperke67: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?10:32
paperke67ActionParsnip: yes I do.10:32
hitsujiTMOljunggren: steam for linux was released a long time ago, and there is triple buffering available on linux. usually you have to enable it seperately10:33
buuDanielFew: Uh, symlinks?10:33
hitsujiTMOljunggren: nvidia of ati?10:33
ljunggrenhitsujiTMO, ati, can't find the settings anywhere and ive google it also =/ you know something?10:34
ljunggrenhitsujiTMO, lack of it makes all my games totaly unplayable thou10:34
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, sound seems to not be working still10:35
paperke67ActionParsnip: this is output of scan http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363961/10:36
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, but when i unmute "PCM" and aplay a mp3 it makes a static noise from my speakers haha10:38
hitsujiTMOljunggren: forced tripple buffering seems to be removed from CCC. most games should have an option to enable triple buffering but you usually must have vsync enabled first10:39
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: can you take a screenshot of the alsamixer. and can you give me a pastebin of: aplay -l10:40
_dothello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?10:42
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64072/  and i dont know how to take a screenshot in ubuntu server with openbox10:42
ljunggrenhitsujiTMO, no game i tested have this option, foolishnes to remove that from CCC :(10:43
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64073/ hope this works10:43
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: you'll need to install something to take a sceenshot. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Taking_a_Screenshot just install the equivalent ubuntu package10:44
olf-folksi pasebined the alsamixer http://paste.debian.net/64073/10:45
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: unmute whatever master m    is10:45
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olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok i did and it says master mono10:46
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yeyemanwhat is plymouth?10:46
yeyemanI got 4 crashes when I logged in right now10:47
ianmac1!plymouth10:47
ubottuPlymouth is an application that runs very early in the boot process (even before the root filesystem is mounted!) that provides a graphical boot animation while the boot process happens in the background. To change your Plymouth theme use « sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth && sudo update-initramfs -u »10:47
yeyemantime to chop some heads10:47
yeyemanwell maybe it's not so wise to uninstall it then10:48
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: try changing the default pcm device to 4 in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf10:48
ianmac1yeyeman, good thing you asked first10:48
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hitsujiTMOyeyemen . plymouth can usually be safely uninstalled. it's a recommended package not a dependant10:49
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok done10:50
yeyemanit's just that there are few things I hate more than pop ups after login10:50
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: reboot and try again then10:50
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok ill be back10:51
Jpmhhow do I disable the colors in vi ?10:52
_dothello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?10:53
hitsujiTMO_dot: you're more likely to get help if you actually describe the problem10:55
malinusthis should be installed with ubuntu: http://qntm.org/suicide10:56
_dothitsujiTMO: i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories10:56
hitsujiTMO!ot | malinus and wouldn't work as linux protects you from running rm -rf /10:57
ubottumalinus and wouldn't work as linux protects you from running rm -rf /: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:57
Kartagishi10:58
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malinushitsujiTMO, it does? you mean you have to be root to run it, right?10:58
hitsujiTMOmalinus: sorry, ubuntu does... but yeah even as root it should not work10:58
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, was there anything else?10:59
Unkn0wn exit10:59
louis__hjoh10:59
malinushitsujiTMO, I don't feel like trying, what kind of error would I get?10:59
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hitsujiTMOolf-folks: enter alsamixer again and make sure master is unmuted11:00
olf-folksif 00 means unmuted then yeah11:00
Kartagisyesterday, I attempted to install cinnamon, but now there is nothing on my desktop. can I switch to gnome somehow. there is no "logout" either so I can't do it from there11:01
hitsujiTMOtill no sound?11:01
Danatois anybody available to help me with an installation issue?11:01
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: still no sound?11:01
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, nada11:01
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: what are you trying to play?11:02
olf-folksi have 2 mp3s and a wav and i also tryed chromeium-browser youtube and a few other things11:02
Danatoill wait till theres somebody available11:02
louis__golmjhfjhnpioj11:03
louis__,; ,:k nxnkb11:03
clijnenffkldfhh11:03
louis__yo11:03
clijnenyo11:03
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KartagisDanato: ask your real question11:03
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: hmm. what are you terying to play them with aplay?11:03
louis__bla11:03
clijnenbla11:03
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louis__spelletje spelen,11:03
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, the 2 mp3s and the wav file11:03
ragokhi all11:03
louis__sex11:04
louis__andµ11:04
DJoneslouis__: Please stop that, this is a support channel11:04
FudgeHi after upgrading some packages on a natty system ssh now gives this error11:04
FudgeLast login: Fri Oct 25 11:42:15 2013 from 147.69.69.9111:04
Fudge/bin/bash: No such file or directory11:04
louis__drugs11:04
louis__en rock n roll11:04
ragokhow to run a webcam in ubuntu11:04
louis__ok11:04
louis__you put them in the dishwasher11:04
Fudgeanyone have any ideas what could becausing this11:04
louis__and then you try again11:04
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: but you're using aplay to try and play them?11:04
DanatoKartagis: Im trying to install ubuntu but its not recognizing any of my partitions, it shows the whole disk as free space11:05
olf-folkslouis__, the bannhammer will get you if you dont be careful11:05
clijnendon't listen to louis_11:05
ragokanswer my question  how to run a webcam in ubuntu11:05
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, yeah i tryed aplay11:05
louis__dont listen to clijnen, he is a virgin11:05
clijnenlouis_ is gay11:05
Fudgeragok  bit rude, usually they just work, look at lsusb output to see if it has been detected11:05
ragokcan u explain me further fudge11:06
FudgeDanato  single hard drive?11:06
cheesecakesragok: you could optionally use cheese11:06
Fudgeragok  open a console or gnome terminal and type lsusb and look for something like your webcam11:06
cheesecakesstart it and you should see video11:06
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: can you screenshot / pastebin alsamixer again11:06
ragoki did but it did not display anything dude11:06
Kartagisragok: create a /etc/modprobe.d/uvcideo.conf and put the line options uvcvideo something=16 (I don't remember what the "something" is)11:07
Fudgelol11:07
cheesecakeswtf is happening here11:07
cheesecakeslolz11:07
ragokwat do u want to happen cheesecakes11:07
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64078/11:08
cheesecakesragok: people behaving themselves11:08
ragokbut iam and i dont know about others dear11:08
DanatoFudge: sory for taking too long, i was on the phone. so yeah, ive got win 7 installed in my pc, but it doesnt even see that with ubuntu live cd11:08
Danato*sorry11:08
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_dothello i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories11:09
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Danatomy laptop came pre-installed with windows 8.1, I uninstalled and installed windows 7 btw11:09
cheesecakesragok: opening a query is not called behaving yourself11:10
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: can you put defaults.pcm.device 0 back in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf and post the contents of /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf11:10
Jumuriis the NSA listening on this conv?11:10
cheesecakesJumuri: yes11:10
Jumurithis is important11:10
Pumpkin-who knows, maybe !11:10
ragokhello r u thrthen u teach me11:10
Jumuriim being attacked by a giant beaver11:10
Jumurinooooooooo11:10
DJonesJumuri: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support only11:11
ragokcheesecake teach me the manners11:11
IdleOnePlease stop with the nonsense, this is a support channel. Not a playground11:11
phixwhat's the go with the cyrus package?  I turn on altnamespace and unixheirarchy and when I create a folder it tried to create it at the root of the entire cyrus mail directory instead of within the user I am logged in as11:11
phixor would this be a mutt issue?11:11
ragoku do ur work idleone11:11
DJonesragok: Stop that. Please stay on topic which is Ubuntu support11:12
IdleOneragok: I am, part of that work is to try and keep this channel sane enough for people to get support.11:12
malinushecking gpg signature of some software I download. Shouldn't I just be able to do gpg --verify *.asc *.tar.xz ?11:12
malinusI just get gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Sep 2013 08:16:39 AM CEST using RSA key ID 969276F5  gpg: Can't check signature: public key not foun11:12
malinus*checking11:12
ragokk then tell me how to access my webcam in ubuntu 13.1011:12
IdleOneinstall the application called cheese and test it11:13
ragoki have tested but niothing happned11:13
DJonesragok: Please be patient, it would help if you can give details of the make & model of webcam etc first, give the details to the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help11:13
DJonesragok: Also pastebin the results of "lsusb"11:14
ragokmine is hp all in oine model and it is fine with  my win 7 dude11:14
EmayHi, I'm hoping to get some support on installing ubuntu 14.02.3 am I in the right place?11:14
cheesecakesEmay: yes11:15
Danatoim also waiting for that Emay11:15
DJonesEmay: There is no such thing as 14.02.311:15
EmayI'm new to linux and im having no luck installing11:16
ragokdude waht abt my problem djnes11:16
Emayok, maybe that's my problem11:16
IdleOneragok: your first problem is your txt typing, please use proper English in here. Second, you need to give more details11:17
ragokman u suck f--k --f11:17
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64082/11:17
EmayI got the link froma reliable friend which was to the ubuntu website & the file I dl was ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd6411:17
Danatocool down man11:17
Kartagishi again11:17
Danatoso how can i solve my problem? ubuntu doesnt recognize any partitions in my pc11:18
KartagisI installed cinnamon yesterday but now there is nothing on my desktop now. how can I switch back to gnome?11:19
Danatoive tried the solution from this page and it ddnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604074&page=411:19
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cheesecakesKartagis: log out and while entering password to log in , click on the ubuntu logo and choose gnome/unity or what ever you want to use11:19
Kartagischeesecakes: I can't logout, the icon is gone11:20
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: are you getting noise when running: speaker-test -c 211:21
CatKillerd11:21
cheesecakesKartagis: do you see the menu button?11:21
JumuriKartagis: the same thing happend to me :)11:21
Jumuriuse command shutdown -h now11:21
cheesecakesKartagis: no!11:22
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: ctrl + c to cancel the noise btw11:22
Kartagischeesecakes: by "there is nothing on my desktop" I mean "there is NOTHING on my desktop"11:22
cheesecakesKartagis: ok11:22
cheesecakesKartagis: are you talking from a second computer?11:22
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, OMG static :D we have made progress11:22
hitsujiTMODanato: what type of partitions are they?11:22
pers3usHey Guys! I am trying to find out what all devices (removable storage) are connected to my system, no matter mounted or unmounted. What is the best way to do so?11:22
Kartagischeesecakes: just the wallpaper11:22
cheesecakesKartagis: i see11:23
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: ok. seems alsa is able to output to your speakers alright.11:23
Kartagischeesecakes: I'm on MacOS now11:23
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, and to think i was about to slam my face on the desk and pull he power cable out of my computer11:23
cheesecakesKartagis: is ubuntu another partition on the same system?11:23
eraggopers3us: lsusb is one way (if them are usb storages)11:23
Kartagischeesecakes: yes11:23
Kartagischeesecakes: dualboot11:23
cheesecakesKartagis: do you have auto -login enabled?11:23
cheesecakesKartagis: if not you can change the window manager while logging in11:24
Kartagischeesecakes: sadly, yes11:24
pers3useraggo: This shows a lot of stuffs which aren't additional storages.11:24
cheesecakesKartagis: otherwise, change to another tty(ctrl+alt+f1), then login using your name and password11:24
cheesecakesKartagis: then run this command:service lightdm restart11:24
pers3useraggo: Which is kind of expected, as some internal devices are also connected via usb11:24
cheesecakesKartagis: i think that will log you out11:24
DanatohitsujiTMO: It had windows 8.1 pre-installed and i formated the whole disk to NTSF to install windows 711:24
olf-folkshitsujiTMO,  so if i can make static why cant i make music or other sounds?11:25
Kartagischeesecakes: can I somehow change the auto-login system whilst in the root shell?11:25
Kartagisor recovery11:25
eraggopers3us: yup. No idea how to show only storage devices11:25
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: have a look again in alsamixer: keep going right to see if there's other important channels that need unmuting.11:25
cheesecakesKartagis:i dont know the way sorry11:25
EmayI'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.11:25
cheesecakesKartagis: this is easy right?11:26
Kartagisservice lightdm restart, got it11:26
Kartagisbrb11:26
Kartagisthanks11:26
cheesecakesKartagis:just add sudo in front11:26
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, i unmuted everyting11:26
hitsujiTMODanato: you in the live cd now?11:26
Danatoyes11:26
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: aplay again11:26
cheesecakesKartagis: dont forget sudo11:27
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, ok it works now11:27
hitsujiTMODanato: can you tell me the output of: sudo fdisk -l11:27
hitsujiTMO!yay | olf-folks11:27
ubottuolf-folks: Glad you made it! :-)11:27
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, thanks a ton!11:28
hitsujiTMOnp11:28
DanatohitsujiTMO: ill put in pastebin for you11:28
Emaycan anyone help?11:29
DanatohitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/GhqqbEwc11:29
mjaykEmay: whats up11:29
EmayI'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.11:30
EmayI have never use linux b4, so it's realy been hard to troubleshoot on my own11:30
ActionParsnipEmay: what video chip are you using?11:31
eraggoit is used by mouse Emay ... jk11:31
ActionParsnipEmay: or chips11:31
EmayGeforce GT 63011:31
hitsujiTMODanato: looks like its visible alright. when you booted the usb did you boot as USB:device name    or UEFI:device name ?11:31
ActionParsnipEmay: does the system use a switchable GPU (Ivy/Sabybridge Intel CPU)?11:32
EmayNo idea11:32
ActionParsnipEmay: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=111:32
vijayacan anyone tell me how to crosscompile "arora" for arm....11:33
ActionParsnip!nomodeset11:33
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:33
ActionParsnipEmay: same method, different option :)11:33
Emay& I have a UEFI bios, so I have tried changing all from UEFI to Legacy only11:33
DanatohitsujiTMO:  cant tell for sure, is there a way to check that? because i ddnt have that option, and i used a dvd11:33
vijayacan anyone tell me how to crosscompile arora for arm....11:34
EmayI will try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 & see how it goes, tyvm11:35
hitsujiTMODonato: not sure how dvds boot options work. Ok, in what way does the installer not see windows partitions?11:36
yeyemananyway to change the start up loading screen? purple is getting kind of old11:36
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hitsujiTMODanato: is this 32bit or 64bit ubuntu btw?11:38
DanatohitsujiTMO:  its 64bit11:38
DanatohitsujiTMO:  ok when i choose the option Something else, it shows me a table. On device /dev/sda it only shows free space11:39
DanatohitsujiTMO:  the whole disk space is shown free11:39
hitsujiTMODanato: Thats either a bug in the installer, or ubuntu cannot work with a gpt filesytem that has an mbr bootstrap11:40
DanatohitsujiTMO:   do you think this can solve the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170532511:41
suigenerishi11:43
Kitar|sthttp://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!11:43
DJonesKitar|st: Please don't use this channel to advertise, its purely a support channel for Ubuntu11:43
suigenerischeesecakes: this is kartagis. I tried sudo lightdm restart but it did no good :S11:44
hitsujiTMODanato: possibly: but that could also damage your windows install. it does fit the issue that you are having11:44
suigenerisbtw, I'm on ubuntu now (irssi)11:44
MrQuistKitar|st, your dog dies.11:45
suigenerisshould I uninstall cinnamon? or is there a package called cinnamon-desktop?11:45
suigenerisJumuri: how did you fix your issue?11:46
hitsujiTMODanato: your main issue seems to be that you've a gpt partition scheme, but you've installed windows as if you're using mbr.11:46
suigenerisbrb11:47
DanatohitsujiTMO: is there a way to fix that?11:47
hitsujiTMODanato: the tool you mentioned seems to be built for such a task, but i've never testedd it or seen it before, so I don't know if it's reliable11:48
DanatohitsujiTMO: it seems that it has worked for some ppl, so id like to give it a shot, but im being able to install it11:49
Danatoi went to the download page http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.8/fixparts-binaries/11:50
ze_pistolasola povo... daqui fala da UBI... é so para avisar que quero é bola baixa aqui no canal!! e Fedora RULLEZZZ!!!11:50
DanatohitsujiTMO: and downloaded the amd64.deb one but it fails to install11:51
ze_pistolasFEDORA11:51
ze_pistolasFEDORA11:51
ze_pistolasFEDORA11:51
FloodBot1ze_pistolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:51
vijayais there any one can help in qt application cross compiling11:51
vijayafor arm11:51
hitsujiTMODanato: whats the error?11:51
DanatohitsujiTMO: (Reading database ... 100%11:52
Danato(Reading database ... 161628 files and directories currently installed.)11:52
DanatoUnpacking fixparts (from .../tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb) ...11:52
Danatodpkg: error processing /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):11:52
Danatodoes that mean that its already installed?11:53
hitsujiTMODanato: no. broken .deb file more likely. can you try redownload it?11:53
DanatohitsujiTMO: ok11:54
EmayHi, someone suggested to me to try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 to help solve a USB issue. For some reason (I must be doing something wrong) I can't get it to install with boot options11:56
hitsujiTMODanato: if that doesn't work try an earlier release: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.7/fixparts-binaries/fixparts_0.8.7-2_amd64.deb/download11:57
DanatohitsujiTMO: yeah it ddnt work. I will11:57
DanatohitsujiTMO: same error :/ btw im using Ubuntu Software Center11:58
suigenerischeesecakes: are you there?11:59
hitsujiTMODanato: can you try install it from command line: sudo dpkg -i /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb12:00
suigenerisjordan: maybe you can help me? you helped me in the past12:00
DanatohitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):12:02
Danato trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/fixparts', which is also in package gptfdisk 0.8.8-112:02
hitsujiTMODanato: seems to be installed already so :P12:02
DanatohitsujiTMO: ah ok then :)12:03
hitsujiTMODanato: follow the instructions here ... including backing up your current table12:04
hitsujiTMOhttp://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/12:04
suigeneriswho can help me switch back to GNOME?12:04
DanatohitsujiTMO: I was already at it, thanks :)12:04
cheesecakessuigeneris: ????12:07
mjayksuigeneris: what do you mean do you still have gnome installed12:07
EmayI can't install ubuntu via CD as USB KB stops working by the 2nd install screen. I have tried installing via windows (where my KB & mouse work) but fails everytime a few secons into installing. Anyone have any suggestions?12:07
mjaykEmay: you've got me stumped are you using any usb hubs like the usb ports on the front of the case ?12:08
ActionParsnipEmay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?12:08
suigenerischeesecakes: I did sudo lightdm restart, but it did no good12:08
EmayMjaka: No, im using rear ports12:08
cheesecakesmjayk: cinnamon is hanging on him, for some reason, and he wants to change his window manager12:08
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DanatohitsujiTMO: on the first backup step i got this error "bash: parts.txt: Permission denied"12:09
suigeneris(this is kartagis by the way)12:09
cheesecakessuigeneris: can you tell me what happened when you did that?12:09
cheesecakessuigeneris: i figured :)12:09
DanatohitsujiTMO: I already tried using sudo before the command btw12:09
mjaykEmay: not a usb 3.0 port or anything like that ?12:09
EmayMjayk: I did notice in the install log via windows repeated errors eg: checking whether D:\ is a valid Ubuntu CD wrong version: 12.04.3 != 12.04.212:10
hitsujiTMODanato: where are you trying to save parts to?12:10
hitsujiTMODanato: where are you trying to save parts.txt to?12:10
cheesecakessuigeneris: are you in ubuntu right now or another OS12:10
ActionParsnipEmay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?12:10
cheesecakessuigeneris: it would be better if you can do both12:10
cheesecakessuigeneris: i mean get a second machine to help you walk through it12:10
EmayMjayk: No I double checked that I was only using the USB 2.0 ports12:10
suigenerischeesecakes: went back to desktop, still no icons. I'm on ubuntu cli, irssi12:10
cheesecakesok good12:11
cheesecakesgive me a second12:11
hitsujiTMODanato: try: sfdisk -d /dev/sdc > ~/parts.txt12:11
suigenerischeesecakes: I'll get a second machine as soon as wife is done with hers12:11
EmayActionParsnip: I have tried different ports. I even bought a new wired USB KB today as my other was wireless12:11
DanatohitsujiTMO: I never specified the path, i guess i should12:11
cheesecakessuigeneris: this is also fine too12:12
ActionParsnipEmay: have you set the usb ports to legacy mode in BIOS?12:12
cheesecakessuigeneris: in the desktop does alt+f2 work?12:12
cheesecakesdoes it give you run command?12:12
suigenerisnope12:12
suigenerisactually, let me see again12:12
EmayActionParsnip: Yes, my bios is UEFI, so I changed all to Legacy only12:13
ActionParsnipsuigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     is Cinammon hanging?12:13
cheesecakesActionParsnip: yup cinnamon is hanging12:13
cheesecakeshe can see the wallpaper nothing more12:13
ActionParsnipcheesecakes: are you the one with the issue?12:13
EmayActionParsnip: Also as suggest in the install guide to try disabling Legacy. None of these options work12:13
taofuyuhello12:13
ActionParsnipcheesecakes: ah, that clarifies :)12:13
cheesecakesActionParsnip: no, sorry12:13
cheesecakesi was just helping12:13
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ActionParsnipcheesecakes: no worries, just wanted to make sure I was targetting correctly :)12:14
cheesecakes:)12:14
taofuyu?12:14
cheesecakessuigeneris: you back?12:14
taofuyuyes12:14
DanatohitsujiTMO: /dev/sdc: No such file or directory12:14
Danatosfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc for reading12:14
cheesecakestaofuyu: is that you suigeneris?12:14
hitsujiTMODanato: /dev/sda for your drive12:14
suigenerisno alt+f2 doesn't work12:15
cheesecakessuigeneris: ok here's what you do12:15
ActionParsnipsuigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    please, you can press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run it there12:15
suigenerisActionParsnip: 13.1012:15
olf-folksopenbox seems to not be starting ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh12:15
hitsujiTMODanato: when you're done that can you pastebin the contents of parts.txt12:15
taofuyu有中国的吗12:16
chemisthello hitsujiTMO12:16
chemistwhat's up12:16
hitsujiTMOchemist: hey12:16
ActionParsnipsuigeneris: thats not the output12:16
DanatohitsujiTMO: It jst says permission denied12:16
chemisthitsujiTMO i was wondering if you could help me out with something12:16
taofuyu有中国的吗12:16
taofuyu我想请教个问题12:16
hitsujiTMOchemist: spill away what the issue is12:16
ActionParsnipsuigeneris: it is a bit more complex than that12:16
hitsujiTMODanato: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda > ~/parts.txt                    that giving the permission denied error?12:17
hitsujiTMO!cn | taofuyu12:18
ubottutaofuyu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw12:18
chemisti'm using a windows vst-plugin with my ubuntu-studio ... i managed to get the plugin loaded and ready to play... i now need to load the instrument kits which are located on my wine c-drive ... but the application that uses the plugin in linux can not access this folder12:18
chemistis there a way to make a folder in my home folder that points to that folder on my wine disk?12:18
DanatohitsujiTMO: ah it worked with sudo12:18
DanatohitsujiTMO: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.12:18
chemistso that i don't have to copy/paste all those filex12:18
hitsujiTMOchemist: ahh, i've no experience with wine tbh.12:19
debnoobI am mounting an ext4 internal hdd partition with udisks. It mounts but but only root has write access. I tried the following commands : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364324/12:19
chemisthitsujiTMO the issue is that the application i use for making music can not access hidden folders.... (./wine) so i can not specify the location of my instrument kits12:19
hitsujiTMODanato: can you pastebin the full contents of the parts.txt12:19
ActionParsnipdebnoob: tried mounting using 'mount' instead...?12:20
tirengarfioI have to give the port of my monitor for a vnc connection, since I have two monitors, after installing vnc, I get this: VNC Display :0 corresponds to TCP port 5900, VNC Display :1 corresponds to TCP port 5901. How can I know what is my display 0 and my display 1?12:20
geirhadebnoob: sudo chown "$USER:" /media/dev # after it is mounted12:20
hitsujiTMOchemist: can you not symlink to the folder? does it follow symlinks?12:20
chemistthe question: is there a way to point a folder to that location? .... similar to mounting a disk in /media ?12:20
DanatohitsujiTMO: sure12:21
taofuyuclosed12:21
taofuyuubuntu 13.1012:21
taofuyu64bit12:21
chemisthitsujiTMO nevermind...i managed to make it work :D12:21
debnoobActionParsnip, geirha: I wanted to do the mounting inside a shell script, so sudo is not an option.12:22
chemisti just realized i haven't got any kits installed ;DDDDDDDD stupid12:22
DanatohitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/DPh7UxA212:22
DanatohitsujiTMO: give me a minute and ill be back12:22
geirhadebnoob: setting uid/username during mount is something you do with FAT and NTFS, since they don't support unix permissions. ext4 support unix permissions, so you change the ownership and permissions using chown and chmod to the desired ownership and permissions12:22
hitsujiTMODanato: looks like its a mbr partition layout allright ... just stuck with a gpt signature12:23
suigenerissorry, baby cried12:23
suigenerisActionParsnip: have to quit irssi then, just a sec12:23
geirhadebnoob: The sudo chown command I showed earlier is a one-time thing. Afterwards, it will be owned by your user.12:24
debnoobgeirha: but wouldn't that need root12:24
debnoobgeirha: doesn't udisk remove the mount point once its unmounted12:24
cheesecakessuigeneris: so any progress?12:25
suigenerisActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l12:25
geirhadebnoob: probably, but that's irrelevant12:25
indistyloYes12:25
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hitsujiTMODanato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed12:26
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geirhadebnoob: After doing the sudo chown on it (while it's mounted), next time you mount it, it will have that (new) ownership still.12:27
TrDhi all12:27
* cheesecakes afk12:27
geirhadebnoob: regardless of which user initiates the mounting12:27
EmayMaybe someone could look at my log file, it may explain why it's failing the install?12:27
RorySure Emay put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com12:28
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EmayRory: Ty, pated12:29
EmayPasted*12:29
debnoobgeirha: It worked! thanks, didn't think the folder would hold the permission once unmounted. Looks like a feature of ext12:29
ActionParsnipsuigeneris: tried something like XFCE as a desktop? You can install it by installing xfce4 package12:30
geirhadebnoob: This is common for unix-y filesystems. It's FAT and NTFS and similar that are exceptions12:30
RoryEmay: Waiting12:30
RoryEmay: You have to actually tell me what the URL is, I'm not a magician :)12:31
debnoobgeirha: been a win guy for so long :)12:31
geirhadebnoob: Since they don't support unix permissions and ownership, you instead say during mounting that all files shall be owned by foo and have mode 644 etc12:31
suigenerisActionParsnip: no, not yet. I'm now trying to recover by doing what you are telling me. let me try that12:31
EmayRory: Sorry, new to IRC & Linux http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364380/12:31
suigenerisbrb12:31
RoryEmay: Can you fill me in on some background to your problem, that looks like Windows stuff to me12:32
HounddogHello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...12:32
debnoobgeirha: my thought was the permission of mountpoint is only stored on the root filesystem. but now i know.12:33
Hounddogits directly login me in qt commqndline12:33
EmayRory: I had 1st tried to install via USB & CD. At the 2nd install screen my USB KB stops working. I also tried via windows which fail short way through install (the log is from the windows install).12:33
RoryEmay: Do you mean using Wubi?12:34
EmayRory: via the widows install, yes12:34
hounndo_2Hello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...12:34
gcdsHello, I need good HTTP proxy server for production use, maybe with even filtering and so on12:34
hounndo_2it is directly login me in to the commmandline and am a bit lost how to restore things again12:35
RoryEmay: It looks like Wubi is failing to download the disk image somehow. I'd recommend doing a "real" install (booting from a USB or CD) rather than using Wubi, because it can cause weird problems later down the line, has restrictions on total install size, and has theoretical performance issues12:35
Rory!md5 | Emay can you verify your installation .iso before burning it?12:35
ubottuEmay can you verify your installation .iso before burning it?: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:35
EmayRory: I did try via USB & CD install 1st. But my KB only works in the 1st part (with options like check disc integrity) then loads another screen with the options again to try or install, this is where my KB stops working12:37
sssssdfrciao!list12:37
cfhowlettwubi is for TESTING not for long-term installation.12:38
EmayRory: Yes, the USB failed, but the CD was verified12:38
RoryEmay: Do you have access to another keyboard?12:38
cfhowlettEmay, usb's do fail frequently and without warning ...12:38
sssssdfrno12:38
hitsujiTMOEmay: how did you create the usb?12:38
ActionParsniphounndo_2: what ATI GPU do you have?12:39
EmayRory: I have a wireless KB, so I bought a brand new wired USB KB today, same thing12:39
Emay& no, I didn't check the MD5 Checksome12:39
hitsujiTMOemay: you need to md5 sum the iso to make sure it was downloaded correctly12:39
EmayThank you, I will try that now.12:40
hounndo_2ActionParsnip:i have Hd 795012:41
Danato_hitsujiTMO: are you still there?12:41
hitsujiTMODanato_: yes12:41
troulouliou_devhi i have to repo for the same packets; hoiw can i set the pinning in preferences on one repos ?12:41
hitsujiTMODanato_: have you tried running fixparts yet?12:42
perishhello12:42
Danato_hitsujiTMO: isnt that what I trying to do when it told me that Ive got no permission for that?12:43
hitsujiTMODanato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed12:43
Danato_hitsujiTMO: ah wait that was the backup12:43
suigeneriswould things be fixed if I reinstalled gnome?12:43
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perishanyone can tell me how to install ATI driver for HD2600 on 12.04lts?12:44
suigeneris!ati | perish12:44
ubottuperish: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:44
Danato_hitsujiTMO: ill be pasting what im finding on pastebin12:45
suigenerisforget it, I'm reinstalling ubuntu12:45
cfhowlett!ati12:46
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:46
suigenerisbrb12:46
troulouliou_devis it a good pinning filter : Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/mint/ubuntu/12:49
Danato_hitsujiTMO: http://oi43.tinypic.com/x1j4tl.jpg12:49
Discordian93hello12:50
Discordian93I need some help with the propietary nvidia drivers12:50
cfhowlett!nvidia|Discordian93,12:50
ubottuDiscordian93,: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:50
gaetanBonjour12:50
cfhowlettgaetan, greetings12:50
Discordian93I have installed nvidia-current and now ubuntu won't boot unless I go from the recovery mode screen12:50
hitsujiTMODanato_: just hit w .... then reboot and try and boot to windows12:50
gaetanOh sorry, forgot this chat is in english12:51
hitsujiTMODanato_: if that works you should be able to install ubuntu propperly from the installer then12:51
hadifarnoudI just discovered hashcat. I understand it can crack WPA/WPA2 hashs too. how can I get WPA hash anyway? I'm going to experiment on home wifi12:51
Danato_hitsujiTMO:  that will overwrite existing partitions. . .12:53
Danato_hitsujiTMO:  ill still do it :P12:53
hounndo_2can anyone help me to get my desktop back after removing fglrx?12:53
hitsujiTMODanato_: it overwrite the table. you havent changed the partitions12:53
Discordian93ubottu: that page is of no help, my problem isn't listed12:53
TrDi'm using Ubuntu 12.04LTS i want ti activate my second Wifi adapter (usb dongle)12:54
Danato_hitsujiTMO:  done12:55
TrDi installed ndiswrapper and the driver12:55
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hitsujiTMODanato_: restart and hope windows boots :P12:55
Danato_hitsujiTMO:  everything is still there, ill try to boot windows, then use the life cd again12:55
Danato_hitsujiTMO:  ok hehe12:56
TrDbut Ubuntu dont enable this adapter12:56
Discordian93can't anybody help me? I have this really bizarre problem where ubuntu won't boot unless I do it from recovery mode after installing the nvidia driver, but the nvidia driver does work once I boot from recovery mode12:56
TrDanyone can help me ?12:56
hitsujiTMO!nomodeset | Discordian9312:57
ubottuDiscordian93: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter12:57
hitsujiTMODiscordian93: is the nomodeset doesn't work, come back to us and we'll try a few other things12:58
Discordian93kk, though according to that thread, nomodeset shouldn' be needed for the propietary drivers, but I'll try anyway12:58
perishwhere to find a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu12.04lts?13:01
EmayHi, someone suggested that I do a MD5Sum check, I did and it said it was correct. So I am still unsure why I can't install13:01
hitsujiTMOperish: it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers13:02
hitsujiTMOEmayL what tool are you using to create the bootable USB13:02
Discordian93_kthx guys, nomodeset worked13:03
hitsujiTMODiscordian93_: if its working then there's a chance that its not actually using the proprietary drivers. have a look in Xorg.0.log t see what driver is being used13:03
EmayUniversal-USB-Installer-1.9.4.4 after a few times getting an error I tried CD13:03
perishit keeps searching for eternity13:03
RoryEmay: As well as checking the integrity of the .iso file, it's important to check the burn was correct - when you first boot from the CD or USB, there'll be a purple screen with a keyboard symbol at the bottom - press any key to access a menu. One of the options will be to verify the integrity of the install medium13:03
Discordian93_where is that file?13:04
hitsujiTMOEmay: that has issues for most people. Try using linux live usb or unetbootin.13:04
RoryEmay: My favourite is this tool http://www.linuxliveusb.com/13:04
ActionPa1snipEmay: also burn as slowly as you can13:04
hitsujiTMODiscordian93: /var/log/Xorg.0.log13:04
perishdamn13:05
EmayRory: That is the screen where my KB still works & I did run the check CD integrity. The USB integrity did fail, not the CD13:05
perishanyone please tell me is there really a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu 12.04lts13:05
Discordian93_I don't understand that file, but the final line is [    50.405] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)13:05
hitsujiTMOEmay: most likely the problem is caused by universal usb installer. Most people that have been on here that have used it have had issues.13:06
ActionPa1snipperish: there is a legacy ppa fglrx13:06
Roryperish: A driver is included with Ubuntu, already installed13:06
Discordian93_so i guess that means the nvidia driver is active?13:06
ActionPa1snippathy: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx13:06
perishaction:where to find that?13:06
hitsujiTMOperish: As I've already said. it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers13:06
ActionPa1snipperish: knew you'd ask....people don't tend to search the web these days13:07
EmayhitsujiTMO: I am not using a USB hub, im using the rear USB 2.0 ports13:07
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perishfor your information for 2 days im searching for an working driver...13:07
perishbit cant find any13:07
hitsujiTMOEmay: not saying anything about a hub. talking about the software used to create the usd installer. try linuxliveusb.com13:07
perishthey are not getting installed13:08
hitsujiTMODiscordian93_: can you post the contents of the Xorg.0.log file in pastebin13:08
EmayhitsujiTMO: I just realised I read it wrong sorry, ok I will try linuxliveusb.com13:08
Discordian93http://pastebin.com/zPQb6E2P13:11
Discordian93that's my Xorg.0.log13:11
hitsujiTMODiscordian93: yes it seems to be using the proprietary driver alright13:12
hitsujiTMODiscordian93: you may need to look at the nomodeset instructions again to permanently enable nomodeset13:13
Discordian93Oh, I used the instruction for doing so permanently13:13
Discordian93else it wouldn't work after rebooting13:13
hitsujiTMODiscordian93: ah cool. you should be set so13:14
Kitar|sthttp://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!13:14
hounndo_2looks like i can only reinstall stuff... no matter what i am trying, i am not able to boot to desktop only to commandline13:15
jribKitar|st: that's not appropriate for this channel13:15
suigenerihi13:17
cfhowlettsuigeneri, greetings13:18
suigenerireinstalled ubuntu and disabled auto-login just in case13:18
Boogayes Hello13:18
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dolis there anyone who can help me with the alsa configuration?13:20
Discordian93well, thanks for everything, checked again another way and yup, i'm running the propietary driver. Hopefully now I'll be able to run DOTA 2 in peace.13:20
BoogaYes13:20
hounndo_2Discordian93:lol i also was trying for dota13:21
hounndo_2or still am... but my system is screwed currently not able to boot to desktop at all anymore13:21
BoogaYes I can help with ALSA config.13:21
dolBooga, I have a PCM hw type and I want to upscale my rate13:22
Discordian93hounndo_2: that sucks man. Are you using nvidia? have you tried following what I've done?13:22
hounndo_2ati13:22
dolI couldn't do it13:22
Discordian93hounndo_2: sucks. ati linux drivers are crap13:22
Boogayh13:23
doldo you want to see my config file?13:23
Discordian93hounndo_2: not venen webgl works with them, for fucks's sake!13:23
cfhowlett!language13:23
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:23
Discordian93sorry13:23
Discordian93won't happen again13:24
suigenerisI am trying install kvirc. it says no qt4 or qt5 found. I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.013:24
dolBooga, check this: http://pastebin.com/YNfamhnX13:24
dolso, I want to upscale the rate to 44800 for 0,3 hw13:24
user82does anyone have experience with wine regedit? do i need to point it to the windows path of the mounted drive, to mess with a existing windows registry?13:24
hounndo_2Discordian93:thats when i gave up and tried removing it again and now i am stuck on console13:25
dolBooga?13:26
BoogaYes13:26
dolhave you checked my config file?13:26
hounndo_2reconfigure xserver-xorg also just tells me it is not installed13:26
Discordian93hounndo_2: sorry man :(. I specifically bought nvidia because it works well with linux, have ran ubuntu for a year with no trouble until a couple of days ago. I guess you'll have to backup and reinstall, sometimes the xserver gets completely totalled and there's no way to restore it, happened to me a couple of times when i ran ATI13:27
hounndo_2would be great if anyone would be willing to help13:27
BoogaHav u checked it under the terminal command13:27
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: how did you install and uninstall the drivers?13:27
hounndo_2apt13:27
Boogaalsamixergui?13:28
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO: using apt13:28
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit13:28
Boogamkokl13:29
BoogaDol?13:29
hounndo_2seems i cannot run that...13:30
Boogaggyh13:30
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: whats the error?13:30
dolBooga, I don't have alsamixergui13:30
hounndo_2not using locking for readonly lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock13:31
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hitsujiTMOdol, booga: alsamixer13:31
BoogaCan you install it?13:31
dolI have alsamixer and everything is unmuted13:31
dolBooga, it will take too much time because I am actuially running in another operatuing system13:31
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: and you have no gui?13:31
hounndo_2none whatsoever13:32
adamkhounndo_2: Are you running dpkg or apt-get in another terminal?13:32
BoogaCheck the master sound settings and if not, check your cables.13:32
hounndo_2nope13:32
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hounndo_2i am only running 1 terminal not connected through ssh or anything13:33
adamkhounndo_2: Is it somehow possible for you to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?13:33
dolBooga, I guess you didn't get my question. My question is just how to convert the rate to another rate in asound.conf13:33
McManiaCany idea why my tmux wont show 256 colors in vim properly, even though i already setup TERM=screen-256color (shown by echo $TERM)?13:33
hounndo_2well it will take a while as i would need to manually copy it13:33
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: can you reboot and try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit13:34
dolhitsujiTMO, do you know how I can convert the rate in asound.conf?13:34
adamkhounndo_2: If you are unable to install pastebinit with apt-get, but you aren't running running another other package management utility, there's something wrong with your system.  Try rebooting and installing pastebinit.13:34
hitsujiTMOdol: fraid not, never messed with alsa in that way13:34
dolok thanks13:35
dolI tried #alsa irc but noone helps there13:35
hounndo_2i just rebootet and am now able to install it, even though before it was also freshly rebootet13:35
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: install pastebinit and then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit13:37
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/13:37
hounndo_2ups13:37
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/13:37
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: alst: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit13:37
ActionPa1sniphitsujiTMO: waste of a cat, pastebinit can take files as input.  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    will work too13:38
hitsujiTMOActionPa1snip: ahh didn't realise. thanks13:38
hounndo_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364698/13:39
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: fglrx is still installed. what gpu do you have?13:39
hounndo_2Ati Radeon hd 795013:39
adamkhounndo_2: Which driver are you trying to use: fglrx or radeon?13:39
wedgetailHi guys, i need help. i installed Ubuntu studio using Windows USB Creator. I have used it a few times and now when start it up it asks for a password?? I did not use a password. Anybody know this problem??13:39
cfhowlettwedgetail, you sure you didn't set a pwd on the usb?13:40
cfhowlettand what are you doing to invoke the pwd request?13:40
wedgetailyes cf i am sure13:41
goldstarhi guys, in my applications, when hovering over a menu item, either nothing shows or the menu drops down but no text. Pls advice13:41
goldstari am using saucy13:41
hounndo_2adamk:was trying to use fglrx13:41
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: the radeon driver doesn't support your gpu. you were probably running fglrx in the first place13:41
cfhowlettwedgetail, so in the LIVE session, you get a password request13:42
wedgetailjust loading cf13:42
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO:could be.13:42
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: what version of ubuntu is this?13:42
cfhowlettwedgetail, you mean on booting the USB?13:42
wedgetailyes13:42
cfhowlettwedgetail,  so you have NOT installed studio to your HDD, right?13:43
adamkhounndo_2: Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?13:43
hounndo_212.04.3 LTS13:43
wedgetailyes after booting right as the program is about to start at the desktop13:43
goldstaranyone?13:43
cfhowlettwedgetail, by any chance, are you using the windows installer/wubi?13:43
wedgetailno, not on hdd13:43
wedgetailno13:44
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: can you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx         failing that you may need a later driver13:44
cfhowlettwedgetail, not normal behavior.13:44
wedgetaili know i installed yesterday and have used it a dozen times, but now it wants a password??13:45
hounndo_2adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364717/13:45
cfhowlettwedgetail, I'm behind the great firewall, so my speeds are throttle.  search ubuntu + live + session + password      OR wipe the USB and create a new one13:45
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO:just a moment13:45
adamkhounndo_2: Did you modify that by hand?  It's a typical xorg.conf file generated by aticonfig, but with radeo ninstead of fglrx.13:45
cfhowlettwedgetail, wait, do you have persistence on the USB?  were you running update or something?13:46
wedgetailwill do cf, thanks for your help and have a good day13:46
hounndo_2i did not modify anything there13:46
cfhowlettwedgetail, or if you shutdown improperly that would make it act funky13:46
adamkhounndo_2: Well someone/something did :-)13:46
adamkhounndo_2: Change that file so that it loads the fglrx driver instead of the radeon driver.13:46
wedgetaili do have persistance, but no updates yet13:46
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User1985Hello folks13:47
wedgetaildid a proper shut down. always do as i am fussy about that13:47
cfhowlettwedgetail, yeah, you really have to be careful with not pulling the USB before it's COMPLETELY exited and shutdown.  otherwise strange things happen13:47
User1985I desperately need some help to mount a NTFS partition :s13:47
hounndo_2adamk just reinstalled fglrx also and rebooting13:47
cfhowlettwedgetail, so maybe actually install US to the HDD?13:47
hounndo_2and back to commandline13:47
hounndo_2...13:47
adamkhounndo_2: Just make sure that xorg.conf file says to use the fglrx driver and not the radeon driver.13:48
cfhowlettwedgetail, or if you want to only test further, install virtualbox on windows, and put US in the virtual machine13:48
hounndo_2adamk:did that13:48
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: check the xorg.conf again13:48
adamkhounndo_2: So pastebin your new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.13:48
adamkhounndo_2: And xorg.conf file.13:48
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: it may be the case that you need a newer fglrx that whats in the repo13:48
User1985"The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown13:48
User1985Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume13:48
User1985read-only with the 'ro' mount option.13:48
User1985" This is the message I get and I do not know what to do :s13:48
FloodBot1User1985: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:48
wedgetaili need it it on usb for security reasons. I have it also on the hdd and windows alongside13:48
adamkhitsujiTMO: Let's wait till he's actually using the fglrx driver before we tell him he might need a newer one.13:49
wedgetaili will try the search as you suggested. thanks cf13:49
cfhowlettUser1985, reboot windows and shut it down properly.  It's only in hibernate so ubuntu won't mess with it13:49
hitsujiTMOadamk: sorry your right13:49
User1985cfhowlett : here's the thing. I do not have windows installed and I cannot for some reason.13:50
cfhowlettUser1985, (and I hate myself already for asking ...) what?  why?13:50
hounndo_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/13:51
cfhowlettUser1985, but you DID have windows at some point, right?  format the HDD and reinstall.13:51
cfhowlettformat to kill any last windows artifacts13:51
User1985Yesterday, I did a clean install of windows on a dell XPS 14 and this morning, it refused to boot.13:51
cfhowlettUser1985, I'm betting UEFI issues.  the fact that you have NTFS means you had windows and STILL have the windows partition.13:52
cfhowlett!uefi13:52
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI13:52
User1985Dell told me this morning they will change the HDD because it might be dead but still, I see the partitions in Ubuntu live and I need to access them so that I can backup my date.13:52
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO: adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/13:52
adamkhounndo_2: Well at least you're attempting to use the fglrx driver now...  But it's encountering a serious crash.13:53
hounndo_2jup13:53
User1985Yes, I still have them, but some reason, it won't boot and whenever I try to reinstall Windows, the HDD doesn't show.13:53
cfhowlettUser1985, so boot a live cd/usb in Read Only mode as was suggested by the error message.  copy your date to another usb.13:53
User1985It only show on a ubuntu live CD13:53
User1985I'm not sure how to do that.13:53
cfhowlettUser1985, U - E - F - I issues.  windows 8, rigth?13:53
cfhowlettright?13:53
adamkhounndo_2: Can you run 'dmesg | pastebinit' ?13:53
User1985cfhowlett : I don't think so cause it used to work flawlessly. Plus, I am using legacy, not UEFI13:54
cfhowlettUser1985, so, as the error message said, mount read only.  copy to another usb.  done.13:55
hounndo_2adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364769/13:55
cfhowlett!mount13:55
ubottumount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount13:55
hounndo_2thx for your help btw, am loosing my mind over this13:55
User1985I don't know how to do that :s13:55
cfhowlettUser1985, read the link.  gtg13:56
adamkhounndo_2: Unfortunately I'm not sure there's much guidance I can give here.  The kernel module is getting loaded, xorg is attempting to use the fglrx driver (along with the fglrx drm module and fglrx glx module).  That all looks like it should.  Then suddenly the driver crashes. By all accounts, it looks like a bug in the driver.13:58
hounndo_2well t only started failing after i started messing with it13:58
User1985cfhowlett: this is the error message (http://bayimg.com/IAcHOaaFA) and this is what I did (http://pastebin.com/Ns75i9L7)13:59
User1985There is my masters thesis on that drive :s13:59
adamkhounndo_2: So this worked out of the box initially?  You were probably using the radeon driver.13:59
adamkhounndo_2: You could remove fglrx entirely and try with radeon again. I do not know if 3D acceleration is available for that GPU with the radeon driver currently installed, but I *believe* it is in the latest version of Ubuntu.14:00
hounndo_2adamk:yes it was working out of the box, then i thought lets try steam and it told me to run fglrx updates and such... and now i am here14:01
hounndo_2latest would be 13.x right?14:01
suigenerisI am trying to install kvirc. it says no qt4 or qt5 found. I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.014:01
User1985Please help me :s14:01
suigenerisshouldn't build-dep retrieve qt as well?14:01
adamkhounndo_2: Latest is 13.10, though it might work in 13.04.  What version are you using?14:01
hounndo_2maybe try a dist upgrade then?14:01
suigeneristhe first time I tried (cmake ..) it said -- Found Qt4: /usr/bin/qmake (found suitable version "4.8.4", minimum required is "4.6.0")  CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:403 (message):   No Qt4 or Qt5 found!. when I tried with -DWANT_QT4=1, it said   The use of Qt4 has been forced, but no Qt4 found on the system   (WANT_QT4=ON)14:01
hounndo_2adamk 12.04.314:02
suigeneriscan you help me guys?14:02
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: you graphics card was only released about 2.5 months before 12.04 so compatible drivers may not have made it in to the repos on time14:02
angsin order to have pcap.h library, what package do I need to install? I tried libpcap-dev but it did not work14:03
adamkhounndo_2: Personally, I'd upgrade unless there's a specific reason you need to stick with 12.04.  In any case, the first thing I'd do is uninstall fglrx and switch back to the radeon driver.14:03
hounndo_2adamk am upgrading right now14:03
hounndo_2or not...14:04
hounndo_2ack i should have allocated more space for linux...14:04
hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: is a clean install feasable?14:04
User1985Please Help me, I need to mount an "unsafe" NTSF partition without Windows :s14:04
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO: if i want to loose all my work yes... so on that note propably no14:05
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hitsujiTMOhounndo_2: try remove fglrx and delete the xorg.conf to get back to the vesa driver14:05
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Guest28556hi14:08
krabadorGuest28556, you're not properly anonymous14:08
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neurosnaplol14:09
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mozybonzheh14:09
hounndo_2hitsujiTMO: am just trying that now i have no disk space anymore... need to allocate some more first... il get back later maybee14:11
kblin_webhi folks14:14
kblin_webI'm trying to grab the davfs2 package from universe, but while it's listed on packages.ubuntu.com, I can't find it via apt-cache search14:15
hitsujiTMOkblin_web: is the universe repo enabled?14:16
deavHas anyone had any experience with Lenovo keyboards not responding after the login screen in 13.10?14:16
Fudustry another update , one of your mirrors might be down14:16
Fudusit shows up for me in 13.10: Candidate: 1.4.6-1ubuntu314:17
rokkahello. is it possible to edit which mounts can bee seen from landscape-sysinfo?14:17
kblin_webhitsujiTMO: there's a deb line for it in my sources.list14:18
zloohow can i see the contents of an apt package?14:18
DanatohitsujiTMO: im back, it worked! Thanks for everything man14:19
Fuduskblin_web, doing another update doesn't help?14:19
Fuduszloo, right click and open in archive manager14:19
zlooFudus: i don't have a file, just the name for apt-get14:19
hitsujiTMO!yay | Danato thanks for pointing that tool in my direction. I'll know that one for when others have similar problems in the future.14:19
ubottuDanato thanks for pointing that tool in my direction. I'll know that one for when others have similar problems in the future.: Glad you made it! :-)14:19
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Fuduslook it up in packages.ubuntu.com, then list of file contents14:20
ricciohallo14:20
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dcopehey all, are monit questions allowed in here?14:20
ObrienDave!it14:20
hitsujiTMOkblin_web: if the universe is not commented out then try switching to another set of repos14:20
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kblin_webFudus: I tried, doesn't seem like it.14:22
kblin_webhitsujiTMO: I'll give that a shot, maybe my mirror is bad14:22
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hitsujiTMOis ubuntu italian for warez or something? because soo many italians come here and !list14:23
DanatohitsujiTMO: good to know it can be helpful to someone out there. Cheers14:23
kblin_webhitsujiTMO: ok, switching to another mirror seems to have fixed it14:24
kblin_webthanks for the tip :)14:25
suigenerishitsujiTMO: could be14:25
suigeneriscan you guys help me install kvirc?14:26
kblin_webhitsujiTMO: funny thing is that switching back to my old mirror also works... weird.14:27
excognacsuigeneris: yes14:27
hitsujiTMOkblin_web: hehe that's weird alright14:28
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: sudo apt-get install kvirc14:28
excognacsuigeneris: open Terminal sudo apt-get install kvirc14:28
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suigenerishitsujiTMO, excognac: I'm trying to install from SVN, version in the repo is too old14:29
StrangeNoiseswhen oh when oh when will the startup disk creator work properly?14:29
StrangeNoises<sigh/>14:29
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: what version of ubuntu are you on?14:30
DrGrovHello. 13.10 running with Unity. I have the top bar everything as intended but not the power button so I can shutdown. How can I fix it back?14:30
suigenerisStrangeNoises: it has always worked properly for me14:30
hitsujiTMOStrangeNoises: 13.10?14:30
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: there's a bug in the 13.10 SDC14:30
suigenerishitsujiTMO: right now, 13.0414:30
gustavnikolaj_Hi. My toppanel in Unity has turned unresponsive. It shows the wrong alt-menus when I hover it, and I cant interact with it nor the icons near the clock. It's a fresh 13.10 running unity. the launcher is working. I couldnt find any mentions of similar issues on google. Anyone with any ideas?14:30
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: try unetbootin instead14:30
suigenerissdc?14:30
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: startup disk creator14:31
suigeneriswhat's SDC?14:31
StrangeNoiseswhen i say to erase disk, it asks for my password, i give it, and it fails horribly with a big ugly error message14:31
StrangeNoiseshave to reformat it elsewhere14:31
DrGrovI mean I do not see the power button as it was all the other times. Just now it disappared.14:31
suigenerishitsujiTMO: oh, it is StrangeNoises who has problems14:31
hitsujiTMOsuigeneris: ahh must have mis tabbed woops sorry14:31
suigenerisnp14:32
hitsujiTMOStrangeNoises: try unetbootin instead14:32
DrGrovShould I do a sudo reboot or sudo halt in a terminal? Is that the only solution and see if it comes back afterwards?14:32
suigeneris!info kvirc14:32
ubottukvirc (source: kvirc): KDE-based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.2.0-2 (saucy), package size 764 kB, installed size 2871 kB14:32
StrangeNoisesno no, i've seen this before. it works after that. i just have to use gparted or similar to format it as msdos, then erase disk in sdc works, then i can go ahead14:32
StrangeNoisesthat's how it was in 13.04 anyway, so far seems identical in 13.1014:33
hitsujiTMODrGrov: rebooting works for me ... try ctrl+alt+del and logout and log back in14:33
gustavnikolaj_DrGrov: seems like the same issue that I have14:33
gustavnikolaj_It's not really an option to reboot in the middle of my working day and it is a major annoyance not being able to use the top bar at all...14:34
* StrangeNoises received new ssd for the htpc today; getting ready for the reinstall, basically14:34
StrangeNoisesreminds me, need to back up ~/.xbmc14:34
gustavnikolaj_My icons just do not disappear - they just do not work14:34
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ah, there is the Ctrl+Alt+Del combination and it does not force restart the computer :)14:34
StrangeNoisesin theory it should just be possible to dd the whole thing across to the new disk, but bleh14:34
StrangeNoisesi'd rather reinstall14:34
gustavnikolaj_StrangeNoises: nothing like a fresh install to clear the clutter :)14:34
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: I did not try C+A+D just since I was afraid it would force restart like in good old days of DOS LOL14:35
StrangeNoisesnot even that much clutter on this one14:35
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Testing now.14:35
StrangeNoiseswas freshly installed with raring not long before saucy came out14:35
StrangeNoisesah, sdc just crashed. lovely.14:35
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ah but it does not give me the option to restart. That is strange. Just log out.14:35
StrangeNoisessegv14:36
hitsujiTMOStrangeNoises: dbus communicating error?14:36
StrangeNoisesthat's ungood14:36
kblin_webStrangeNoises: what filesystem are you creating?14:36
gustavnikolaj_StrangeNoises: unfortunately I often see issues when dist-upgrading ubuntu. It's not debian after all :p14:36
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Can I do a reboot somehow except a terminal+sudo reboot?14:36
StrangeNoisesgustavnikolaj_, actually tends to go well for me, although that's because i'm used to discounting a certain amount of post-upgrade fiddling14:36
hitsujiTMODrGrov: try logout and log back in and see if the power menu come back14:36
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok, will do.14:36
StrangeNoisesi'm not reinstalling this machine because it's got gnarly; just because i'm replacing an hdd with an ssd for its system drive14:37
hillary_kindly assist me with a command which will allow read write access  to all files and folders in /var directory14:37
kblin_webStrangeNoises: I seem to recall trouble with 13.04 trying to use btrfs for /14:37
gustavnikolaj_StrangeNoises: I make an effort to run as close to vanilla setup as possible, but still somehow manage to get in trouble. I have debian machines running without reinstalls for years - but I havent lasted more than a release for ubuntu yet :)14:37
StrangeNoiseskblin_web, well, that's an exotic thing to be doing tbf14:38
kblin_webStrangeNoises: why?14:38
gustavnikolaj_Anyway, did anyone of you have any other ideas about how to fix the unresponsive top panel in unity?14:38
StrangeNoisesgustavnikolaj_, for that kind of thing i actually used to really like gentoo. no such thing as a distro version upgrade14:38
gustavnikolaj_StrangeNoises: yea - rolling releases kind of do solve that problem14:38
StrangeNoiseskblin_web, isn't it still rather early days for btrfs?14:39
hitsujiTMOhillary_: thats far too dangerous. what exactly do you need it for?14:39
kblin_webStrangeNoises: it's been in the mainline kernel since 2009, iirc14:39
ObrienDavei think i heard that btrfs was still experimental14:40
StrangeNoisesright, here we go again, without extra space14:40
StrangeNoisesi thought it was still experimental. (lots of things in mainline kernel are 'experimental' for ages. after all, wasn't it mooted to be the new default, preferred filesystem? but ext4 still is that,presumably for a reason?14:41
hillary_i have a folder in /var named elgg and i need to do modification in some files. am getting unable to save cos of writes. It is in local host14:41
kblin_webStrangeNoises: arguably the kernel doesn't have a default filesystem14:41
hillary_am customizing a site14:41
StrangeNoisesi know almost nothing about btrfs btw, no axe to grind here, was just my impression of something i wasn't paying close attention to14:41
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StrangeNoiseswell no the *kernel* doesn't, but distro-makers make their choices...14:41
StrangeNoisesalso, available filesystems that grub can work with can be a factor14:42
kblin_webStrangeNoises: sure. I still think it's a bit rude to allow creating a btrfs / in the installer and then crash without a hint at a later step if you simply don't want to support btrfs /14:42
StrangeNoiseshm. crashed again. this isn't good14:42
hillary_if i can allow read write to all the folders  and files in the directory, it will make my work easy14:43
StrangeNoisesi think i may have to make this disk in  a mac at this rate14:43
hitsujiTMOhillary_: what tool are you using to edit the files?14:43
gustavnikolaj_DrGrov: I found a way to solve your issue without rebooting: killall unity-panel-service14:43
hillary_reg edit14:43
gustavnikolaj_it will force it to restart14:43
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hitsujiTMOhillary_: is it /var/www you need access to?14:43
hillary_exactly14:44
hillary_/var/www/elgg14:44
StrangeNoisesheh, my cat has found a spot *behind* my monitors, where she can peek over at me.14:44
maxiaojundoes anyone experience /etc/X11/X missing?14:45
hitsujiTMOhillary_: use gksudo gedit /var/www/elgg/path/to/filename14:45
maxiaojunthis happened when i did some "cleaning" in ubuntu tweak, my os is 12.04 running unity 2d14:47
maxiaojuni fixed this issue myself, but after an unsuccessful logout (freeze) the issue happens again14:47
hitsujiTMOhillary_: normally you should have set /var/www to be owned by a www group and added yourself to that group followed by setting permissions g+ws on /var/www.   all that BEFORE ever adding any site code. doing so now will unfortunately break the exising sites.14:47
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maxiaojunthis issue is rather annoying as the observed phenomenon is that the computer boots, then black screen without any error message14:48
wl-deavhillary_ ideally you should use virtualhosts14:49
hitsujiTMOmaxiaojun: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X                bizare how that could have happened14:49
hillary_<hitsujiTMO: i would mind how do i set it14:49
maxiaojunyes, i know this fix, but i wanna know what triggered the missing?14:50
hitsujiTMOhillary_: its too late now. as i said doing so will break exising sites. you need to do that before adding sites.14:50
hitsujiTMOmaxiaojun: can't think of anything that would cause it to be honest.14:51
uczen16kjh14:52
hitsujiTMOmaxiaojun: whats the exact tool you used? cannot find ubuntu tweak14:52
uczen16k14:53
maxiaojunhttp://ubuntu-tweak.com/14:53
StrangeNoisesaptitude search tweak14:53
StrangeNoisesit's right there14:53
uczen16u can suck my balls xd14:53
bekks!language | uczen1614:54
ubottuuczen16: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.14:54
BluesKaj'Morning all14:54
uczen16how about no /xd'14:54
uczen16u asshole14:54
ObrienDaveoh lordy, and so it begins14:54
uczen16XDXD14:54
DJonesuczen16: Please stop that14:54
nishttal2hello ppl.. sudo apt-get update is not finding some IP.. here is the output.. http://fpaste.org/51749/83663279/ how can i fix this?14:54
bekksuczen16: How about leaving this channel and trolling elsewhere?14:54
uczen16hmm14:55
uczen16no?14:55
Dai_1987way to feed the troll guys, lol14:55
IdleOne!guidelines > uczen1614:55
ubottuuczen16, please see my private message14:55
ObrienDavenishttal2 because that site does NOT support natty anymore?14:56
bekks!eolupgrades | nishttal214:56
ubottunishttal2: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades14:56
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nishttal2ObrienDave, hmm.. so I have to rebuild a otherwise fully functional production server?14:57
StrangeNoisesin short, if you're not the sort to jump on a new release every six months, you're probably better of sticking to the LTS versions :-)14:57
StrangeNoisesoff14:57
nishttal2StrangeNoises, and Natty isnt a LTS release?14:57
hitsujiTMOmaxiaojun: you sould report a bug on it at the least. i'd be careful of using any such software that's not in the main repos14:57
ObrienDavenishttal2 what version is the server running?14:57
StrangeNoisesnishttal2, no, it isn't14:57
nishttal2ObrienDave, StrangeNoises Linux bart 2.6.38-8-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:49:04 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:58
StrangeNoiseswhereas i have some servers deployed with Lucid, which is, and is still supported14:58
ObrienDavebart? oh my14:58
bekksnishttal2: lsb_release -sd14:58
maxiaojunhitsujiTMO: i know how to report bugs and reported many, but i'd try to find out the root cause first14:59
nishttal2bekks, Ubuntu 11.0414:59
nishttal2ObrienDave, rt :)14:59
bekksnishttal2: Thats not supported anymore. Upgrade to 12.04 at least.14:59
StrangeNoisesand 12.04 *is* an LTS release, so is supported for years14:59
nishttal2bekks, damn.. i hate changing OS when its not really broken15:00
StrangeNoisesso suits those that don't like upgrading often :-)15:00
ObrienDave5 years15:00
StrangeNoisessome of us are a bit crazy and do actually enjoy it ;-)15:00
ObrienDavelike me YEEHAAA15:00
bekksnishttal2: It isnt supported anymore. No updated, no security fixes, nothing. Use LTS 12.04 to get 5 years supports.15:00
bekks-s15:00
nishttal2bekks, StrangeNoises is there no way to just install gdb somehow (which is what I need)15:00
* StrangeNoises has been using saucy for probably around four months or so after all.... ;-)15:00
Aut0Exechi15:00
bekksnishttal2: No.15:00
Aut0Execwill ubuntu sausy run nice on a netbook?15:01
bekksnishttal2: 11.04 is not supported anymore. EOD.15:01
nishttal2StrangeNoises, ObrienDave oh my workstation is always bleeding edge (13.10 rt now).. but production servers i dont touch15:01
Aut0Execanswer this quick15:01
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StrangeNoisesnishttal2, same here, well, i plan for *eventual* upgrades, but i only install the LTS on those15:01
hitsujiTMOAut0Exec: probably not . depends on the cpu and gpu15:01
StrangeNoiseshence my own dedicated hosted server is on 12.04, and those i support for a client are 10.0415:01
MonkeyDust!requirements | Aut0Exec15:01
ubottuAut0Exec: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu15:01
Aut0ExecMonkeyDust: thank you brother15:02
ObrienDaveYAY Xubuntu15:02
ObrienDavesorry, I'm kinda partial as you probably guessed ;)15:03
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suigeneris!info kvirc raring15:04
ubottukvirc (source: kvirc): KDE-based next generation IRC client with module support. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.1.3+20111124.svn5988-2 (raring), package size 766 kB, installed size 2884 kB15:05
ObrienDavenishttal2 well, go to 12.04 for now, in April, go to 14.04 and you won't have to touch it for 5 years :)15:05
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nishttal2ObrienDave, rt.. but rt now.. i need to install gdb.. maybe I can download the .deb file for that somewhere15:06
Aut0Execso if the machine meets 2 times teh minimum requirements... it should run pretty smooth or what?15:06
bekksnishttal2: On servers, you should always use the LTS.15:06
Aut0Execanswer this quick15:06
StrangeNoisesAut0Exec, i would expect a netbook to run standard ubuntu ok tbh15:06
nishttal2bekks, yeah will keep in mind15:06
Aut0ExecStrangeNoises: I have another laptop ... its like a pentium 4 2.x mhz.. 2 gigs of memory15:07
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ObrienDavenishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu215:07
philinuxAut0Exec: running well on an ac er 1410 right now15:07
StrangeNoisesAut0Exec, limiting factor's probably graphics15:07
nightdreverany software i can use to mount iso file? im on ubuntu 12.0415:07
Aut0Execphilinux, StrangeNoises ok thanks.. i guess only one way to find out huh?15:08
Aut0Execjust install the damn thing i guess15:08
Aut0Execsee what happens15:08
StrangeNoisesAut0Exec, you can probably still *install* standard ubuntu, and if it's too sluggish on the desktop you can just install eg: lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop and use that from then on15:08
hitsujiTMOnightdrever: mount -o loop15:08
nishttal2ObrienDave, oh perfect... thanks much appreciated15:08
philinuxAut0Exec: 1.3 gig celeron and intel integrated gm4515:08
ObrienDaveno prob15:08
Aut0Execphilinux: is it smooth?15:08
philinuxAut0Exec: and 2 gig ram15:08
Aut0Execphilinux: is that 13.10? and is it smooth?15:09
nishttal2ObrienDave, its i386.. where can i find the 64-bit version15:09
philinuxAut0Exec: runs very well with default ubuntu install i.e unity15:09
ObrienDavepicky, PICKY ;)15:09
MonkeyDustAut0Exec  use a live dvd / usb to try it out, is my advice15:09
Aut0Execok15:09
Aut0Execinstallation prompts you for what type of install you want?15:10
philinuxAut0Exec: if it didn't run well i'd use something else15:10
Aut0Execstandard, unity, ... etc?15:10
StrangeNoisesAut0Exec, standard installer will just install unity15:10
Aut0Execok15:10
StrangeNoisesit will work, you then decide if it's smooth and responsive enough for you15:10
StrangeNoisesand if it is, you're done15:10
ObrienDavenishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu415:10
Aut0Execgatcha15:10
StrangeNoisesotherwise, you can just install one of the other desktop environments directly15:10
Aut0Execi will attempt the install15:10
StrangeNoisesno need to reinstall15:10
MonkeyDustAut0Exec  firdt try it, before you install15:11
Aut0ExecStrangeNoises: this can all be done from the same install media correct?15:11
philinuxAut0Exec: I can play hd videos etc15:11
Aut0ExecMonkeyDust: ok15:11
StrangeNoisesAut0Exec, no, the install media will install unity15:11
_JuJuBeeI cannot seem to get my motorola maxx to show on ubuntu as a USB device.  Syslog shows this when I connect phone... http://pastebin.com/EAjQkmqS15:11
StrangeNoisesbut once installed the install media is irrelevant15:11
StrangeNoisesit installs from net15:11
nishttal2ObrienDave, thanks again15:11
Aut0Execahh ok15:11
ObrienDaveyup15:11
Aut0Execi totally understand now15:11
philinuxAut0Exec: I only run browser and a bit of office stuff and xchat ,evolution etc15:12
StrangeNoisesfor P4 and netbook you want the 32-bit installer btw15:12
Aut0Execphilinux: and you find it very nice and smooth? then i shall use it as well15:12
Aut0Exec:)15:12
Aut0ExecStrangeNoises: indeed15:12
StrangeNoisesmentioning as it's no longer the default when you get to the download page15:12
Aut0ExecStrangeNoises: that goes without saying my friend15:12
Aut0Execok15:13
StrangeNoisesso you need to remember to select it15:13
Aut0Execyessir15:13
Aut0Execthey assume you have the latest and greatest hardware15:13
Aut0Execnoobs15:13
StrangeNoisesin fairness, more people do now i reckon15:13
StrangeNoiseseven recent atoms are 64-bit15:13
Aut0Execif ubuntu fails ... i'll probably go with a lighter distro15:13
Aut0Execperhaps debian15:13
Aut0Execor arch15:13
ripthejackerxubuntu?15:14
Aut0Execok15:14
Aut0Execyou think thats light?15:14
ObrienDaveYAY Xubuntu15:14
StrangeNoisesxubuntu is way lighter than unity, but unity is nicer if the system can cope with it :-)15:14
Aut0Execoh snap15:14
StrangeNoisesso worth the effort15:14
Aut0Execyessir15:14
Aut0Exectotally15:14
Aut0Exec+1 ubuntu fanbois15:15
ObrienDaveUnity PFFFFFT15:15
MonkeyDustAut0Exec  and KDE is faster, more responsive than Unity, in my experience, that is15:15
StrangeNoisesmy other computer is a mac, so unity is less of a wrench15:15
StrangeNoisesdock may be in the wrong place but at least the menus arent ;-D15:16
philinuxAut0Exec: I'm running the 64 bit version by the way15:16
dreamy_whats the command on the command line to know what processes are running?15:17
* StrangeNoises steps across to the mac to make an ubuntu usb bootable :-P15:18
geniidreamy_: ps15:18
StrangeNoisesdreamy_: ps15:18
StrangeNoiseswith various options15:18
FloodBot1StrangeNoises: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:18
StrangeNoiseseg:15:18
saviouse ps / top15:18
dreamy_ty all15:18
StrangeNoisesps aux15:18
StrangeNoisesi'm not bloody pasting, FloodBot1 i just type fast :-P15:18
philinuxAut0Exec: see this http://imagebin.org/27585715:18
ObrienDavefloodbot is SLOW! ;)15:19
MonkeyDustslowbot15:19
Aut0Execthank you guys15:20
dreamy_if i had a ftp server whould it show with "ps"15:20
dreamy_?15:20
StrangeNoisesprobably not *just* ps as that'll just show your processes15:20
StrangeNoiseshence ps aux, which shows all15:20
StrangeNoisesalso if you have a desktop, system monitor15:20
StrangeNoisestop for an ongoing display of the top running processes, but an ftpd probably won't often show up there unless it's being DOSed15:21
Aut0Execphilinux: i se15:21
Aut0Execphilinux: this is sweet breh15:21
Aut0Execphilinux: ok check this out.... I have a 32 bit machine tho...15:21
StrangeNoisesshould be fine15:22
StrangeNoisesjust get on with it ;-P15:22
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dreamy_ok, know what if i want to list the "services"?15:22
Aut0Execok15:22
gimmicanyone noticed issues with gimp and unity?15:23
gimmicI am having problems getting the menus to show up15:23
StrangeNoisesdreamy_: there's nothing special about service vs. foreground apps in linux. but you could ls /etc/init.d to remind yourself what there are launch scripts for15:23
* StrangeNoises tends to do that15:23
StrangeNoisesthough wouldn't be surprised if there's a nice way to query upstart for that kind of information that i never caught up with15:24
* StrangeNoises is old, /me remembers sysvinit15:24
x0011BFHey, I have a quick question about scripts that need to run as root.15:24
gimmicthat isn't that old StrangeNoises :(15:24
treatmastersomeone master in eclipse in ubuntu15:24
treatmaster???15:24
x0011BFI've got a script I need to run as root that I want to trigger on the creation of an interface (broadcasts a wifi signal using the tun0 interface)15:25
MonkeyDust!ask | treatmaster15:25
ubottutreatmaster: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:25
x0011BFIs there a way to give the script permissions to run as root without me having to do it myself, or is there alternatively a way to get a graphical pop-up asking for root password?15:25
treatmasteri got an issue15:25
treatmasteri open eclipse15:25
treatmasterand i cant interact with navigation menu15:26
olf-folksdose anyone know why terminator won read its config file?15:26
MonkeyDusttreatmaster  try to keep the question in one line, it's easier to read and repeat15:26
treatmastersorry monkeydust.this is the first time i join xchat15:27
treatmastersomeoneelse can answer my question.15:29
ObrienDave!patience15:29
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/15:29
treatmasterthank ObrienDave15:29
gimmicx0011BF: it doesn't prompt for sudo auth when it runs?15:30
x0011BFgimmic: I usually run it as like sudo ./runWifi15:31
x0011BFI'm not sure how to get it to prompt for sudo in the bash script itself.15:31
gimmicis it only for you?15:31
gimmicor is this for someone else.. can it be a hack15:31
bekksx0011BF: sudo cmd ...15:31
darth_damian_000Hello. I wanted to ask what is the best way to upgrade to 13.10? I did research and no method sounds convincing. In-system upgrade risks files being deleted, upgrading with a live USB is not a recommended method (as it will delete files), a clean install will definitely remove my files. Is there a way I can do this with keeping everything?15:31
gimmichttp://askubuntu.com/questions/303795/run-typical-sudo-commands-from-button-on-unity15:31
x0011BFJust for me.15:32
gimmicx0011BF: gksudo might be what you're looking for?15:32
xanguadarth_damian_000: updates have never deleter my files15:32
x0011BFOK, I'll try it out. I remember doing this a while back and finding that I generally needed to be running from a terminal.15:33
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x0011BFThat gksudo thing is probably right.15:33
x0011BFIs there a way to just give a script sudo permissions though?15:33
gimmicgksu: Description-en: graphical frontend to su15:33
gimmic(also does sudo)15:33
x0011BFIf it's owned by root you'd need sudo permissions to run it.15:33
x0011BFEr.15:33
x0011BFTo edit it.15:33
gimmicedit what15:33
x0011BFLike if I could set a flag on it so that it doesn't need the sudo password to run as root.15:34
bekksx0011BF: setuid15:34
x0011BFIt's not like an attacker could edit it without the sudo password anyway.15:34
huttanx0011BF: yeah, u can in the sudoers file.15:34
gimmicyou can save the password into a launcher, which is why I was asking aobut other users15:35
x0011BFah.15:35
gimmicor you can give passwordless sudo for that script in visudo15:35
x0011BFYeah I worry about saving the password somewhere.15:35
gimmicfor your user15:35
gimmicthen use visdo15:35
gimmic*visudo15:35
roflinmmm I've got an issue with my sound after resume. I probably need to unload the right modules on suspend, but I don't know which one.15:35
x0011BFAll of those things compromise security though.15:35
ObrienDavedarth_damian_000 In-system is safest15:35
gimmicset it so you can passwordlessly allow execution of that script, problem is that script can be anything15:35
roflinthe issue is that it doesn't work after a resume btw.15:35
huttanx0011BF: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130128020411AAZpsgc - i suggest you read the answer from, Chris D15:36
gimmicwell, what you're asking is for a way to execute a bash script as root without a password. ALL solutions will compromise security.15:36
ActionPa1sniproflin: if you run:   killall pulseaudio    after you resume, is it ok?15:36
x0011BFWhat the hell huttan? A thoughtful response on Yahoo! Answers?15:36
x0011BFI should write another answer telling the person that if they use sudo wrong they'll get pregnant just to balance it out.15:36
x0011BF:P15:36
huttanx0011BF: it happens =)15:37
roflinI tried with pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload, but that didn't bring it back.15:37
x0011BFgimmic: To some extent yeah, but if I write the script myself and it is owned by root it doesn't really compromise much.15:37
x0011BFBecause you'd need the sudo password to edit it.15:37
gimmicya15:37
gimmicthat's probably the best way- lock it down and set it for passwordless execution via visudo15:37
x0011BFOK, I'll read up on setuid, gksudo, visudo and that bizarro Yahoo! Answers thread.15:38
geirhax0011BF: The ownership and permissions on the directory the script is in also matters15:38
x0011BFThanks for the advice gimmic , huttan  and bekks.15:38
gimmicyou don't need any of that first stuff- just do visdo and proper permissions15:38
x0011BFI'll just read it anyway :P15:38
gimmicthe gksudo is only for the graphical password prompt, which you can bypass.15:38
skulltipwhen i upgrade by doing a format/install, i have a separate home partition. how do i keep it from messing up the installed GUI settings when I point the fstab to the new home folder? Won't the settings in new gnome/unity/whatever potentionally be impacted by the old settings in my home folder?15:38
bekksx0011BF: which gimmic?15:38
geirhaany user with write access to the directory can replace the script with their own15:38
holmsanybody tried to push alt+princscreen+c ?15:38
bekksholms: why?15:39
holmsbekks: new bug15:39
holms:D15:39
bekksholms: full sentence? :P15:39
holmsbekks: you will get kernel panic15:40
holmsthat why i hate this distro15:40
holmsthose idiots left sysq on by default15:40
holmseven if screen locked thiw will work15:40
abradleyI have mounted a password protected cifs share by adding to fstab. I can open files successfully but I cannot write to them15:41
abradleyand the creds used were for read/write15:41
abradleycifs share is from small business server 201115:41
ActionPa1snipholms: have you reported a bug?15:41
holmsActionPa1snip: i's reported already15:41
bekksholms: I didnt understand a single sentence of what you ranted, sorry.15:41
_joeyAfter upgrading to 13.10 all network connections are lost (eth0, wifi, wlan)15:41
MonkeyDustabradley  what's the line in fstab?15:41
holmsnobody cares15:41
_joeywhat's going on?15:41
bekks!details | holms15:41
ubottuholms: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:41
holmsubottu: lol i just came to say that there's kernel panic when you press alt+printscreen+c  :)15:42
ubottuholms: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:42
ActionPa1snipholms: good15:42
holmsrest i don't care15:42
holms:)15:42
holmsnice bot, turren test passed15:42
Piciholms: This is a support channel. Its not a place to leave complaints.15:42
abradleyMonkeyDust, //SBS2011.rxbenefits.local/proxmox /home/crash/mounts/sbs2011-proxmox cifs username=windows-username,password=password,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm   0   015:42
holmsit's just.. shows how secury this distro is on servers15:42
abradleyMonkeyDust, //SBS2011.rxbenefits.local/proxmox /home/crash/mounts/sbs2011-proxmox cifs username=<windows-username>,password=<password>,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm   0   015:43
MonkeyDustabradley  try 'defaults' instead of 'username=...' and 0 2 instead of 0 015:43
Flannel /lastlog jono15:43
_joeyAfter upgrading to 13.10 all network connections are lost (eth0, wifi, wlan)15:44
_joeycould someone help please?15:44
hitsujiTMOholms: sysreq is there for a reason sysreq + c performs a crash dump http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key15:44
gsoWhat would cause /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/build/include/linux/version.h to not contain KERNEL_VERSION definitions ?15:45
perishis there a task manager for ubuntu 12.04lts?15:45
MonkeyDustperish  system monitor15:45
abradleyMonkeyDust, I still get "Error creating directory: Permission denied"15:46
hitsujiTMOgso: the module you are trying to build is for an older kernel15:46
MonkeyDustabradley  have you rebooted or re-mounted ?15:46
abradleymount -a, yes15:46
MonkeyDustok15:47
hitsujiTMOgso: is it for vmware stuff by anychance?15:47
MonkeyDustabradley  still, try rebooting15:47
abradleydeal15:47
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gsohitsujiTMO: No, it's for some autoprotect modules for symantec15:49
perishis there a ati driver for old graphics card on ubuntu 12.04lts(Kernel Linux 3.8.0-32-generic)15:50
hitsujiTMOgso: ahh, not familiar with that. It's unfortunately targeting the 2.6 kernel15:50
gsoyeah, was wondering if I could point it to the generated/uapi.... But, does not smell like the right solution15:51
hitsujiTMOperish: legacy card requires 2.6 kernel? might work under 3.215:51
babinlonstonhi All , Will this command backup my  logcol00 to snap-shot ?   - ----------  >      dd if=/dev/vg_rhel/LogVol00 of=/dev/mapper/snap-shot15:53
hitsujiTMOgso: i use sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include/linux/version.h         to get the setup script to run on vmware tools (same issue) still doesn't build but gets it to at least detect the headers and run the setup script15:53
bekksbabinlonston: No. It will create an inconsistent whatever. When using LVM, create a snapshot, and backup the snapshot.15:53
nightdreveris there away to stop programs in wine accessing internet?15:54
perishis it possible to downgrade kernel without changing the os..??15:54
babinlonstonbekks: how to do it15:54
hitsujiTMOperish: you could try building the kernel yourself15:55
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moppynightdrever, i dont know if wine has a setting but SELINUX will allow you to create an application level firewall. standard ip tables can only block by things like port which might not help15:55
testpil0tnightdrever, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19346/how-to-block-internet-access-for-wine-applications15:55
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gsohitsujiTMO: The odd part is, the linux/version.h files DOES exist... But, it does not contain the kernel version...15:57
moppytestpil0t, nightdrever: interesing didnt know iptables could block by user id - wouldnt work on native apps as i need to be me, but i can see it working for wine15:57
babinlonston im using kvm and other Distribution were installed as Guest operating systems  there are  /dev/sda6 , /dev/sda7 /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 ,  there are upto /dev/sda15 available in my PC , i need to create a backup of /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda14 , if there is some issue i need to restore from that /dev/sda14 to /dev/sda6 , how can i Do it guide me to snapshot it ... I'm using LVM for /15:58
gsohitsujiTMO: Ohh well nevermind.. I've manually fixed those parts now, but the filesystem API has too many changes... I'll not waste my time porting this.. it's too damn much work.15:58
GimmiLFactorYHello governors, anyone point me to some PID control or # obtaining documentation?15:59
perishis it possible to downgrade kernel without changing the os..?? mean without downgrading the os??anyone here??15:59
GimmiLFactorYPerish are you talking about the headers?16:00
perishman i dont know what im talking about16:00
perishim new with ubuntu16:00
GimmiLFactorYI've been with it for just under a year16:01
GimmiLFactorYPerish, open terminal and type uname -r16:01
perishi just need a driver for my ati driver which is not available for my current kernel version 3.816:01
GimmiLFactorYis that the kernal versioning you are trying to downgrade from?16:01
usersdsdsdhello to all16:02
perishyeah..16:02
GimmiLFactorYperish - private msg16:03
hitsujiTMOgso: hmm, odd, that file doesn't exist on any of my systems. I'm wondering have you run into this problem before with another app16:04
babinlonstonim using kvm and other Distribution were installed as Guest operating systems  there are  /dev/sda6 , /dev/sda7 /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 ,  there are upto /dev/sda15 available in my PC , i need to create a backup of /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda14 , if there is some issue i need to restore from that /dev/sda14 to /dev/sda6 , how can i Do it guide me to snapshot it ... I'm using LVM for /16:04
irgautvolHi - How do I get rid of Session=gnome-fallback in .dmrc in personel folder - without being overwritten again16:04
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: why do you want to change remove that?16:07
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irgautvolhitsujiTMO When I login to gui I got logged out after upgrade to 13.1016:09
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: try changing it to Ubuntu16:09
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: sorry: ubuntu      small u16:10
techlordHello all I have issue that the image thumbnails are showing as clocks for the icons anyone have a idea how to fix this?16:10
irgautvolhitsujiMTO yes, but it gets over written.16:10
irgautvolhitsujiTMO gui is just balck with mouse pointer16:11
perishGimmiLFactorY you there?16:11
Aut0ExecI hate how the download sections asks for donation16:11
perishi need to downgrade my kernel16:11
Aut0Execyet its free16:11
Aut0Execi'm not donating anything16:11
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: is your system capable of running unity3d?16:11
GimmiLFactorYyeah, I private messaged you, need resend?16:11
Aut0Execbecause i like free16:11
perishanyone help me with that\16:11
Aut0Execperish: did you donate?16:12
perishdonate for what?16:12
Aut0Execubuntu16:12
irgautvolhitsujiTMO Other users have no problem , unity3d - I think so16:12
cordycepsRunning Ubuntu 13.04 FWIW, was having trouble with mplayer installed using apt-get, "mis-matching header". Searched and learned mplayer prefers to be installed via svn. So I purged ubu-mplayer and used svn. So far so good. But now must enter /usr/local/bin/mplayer explicitly at the CLI. Or I get "command not found"  My other "local" stuff doesn't need the whole path spelled out. Why? Yes, I "own" /usr/local/bin.16:12
Aut0Execwhen you downloaded it16:12
perishno..i didnt16:12
Aut0Execperish: then no support for you sir16:12
perishno16:12
cordycepsRunning Ubuntu 13.04 FWIW, was having trouble with mplayer installed using apt-get, "mis-matching header". Searched and learned mplayer prefers to be installed via svn. So I purged ubu-mplayer and used svn. So far so good. But now must enter /usr/local/bin/mplayer explicitly at the CLI. Or I get "command not found"  My other "local" stuff doesn't need the whole path spelled out. Why? Yes, I "own" /usr/local/bin.16:12
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: what gpu do you have?16:12
cordycepsoops!16:12
GimmiLFactorYperish - private message16:12
skinnkavajHello how do I install ubuntu from USB? I have downloaded an iso file, should I just move it to a usb and then boot from usb? Is that the only thing?16:13
GimmiLFactorYAut0Exec, this program is GNU, donating is not required for you to have free information given to you that is already available to others.16:13
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: looks like you were forced to unity2d before the upgrade, which is usually because your gpu cannot handle unity3d. which would explain the black screen you are getting now.16:14
ActionParsnipskinnkavaj: install and use unetbootin16:14
irgautvolhitsujiTMO how do I check again? lshw |grep ??? -16:14
zykotick9cordyceps: your user shouldn't own /usr/local/bin that's for sure. (not related to your issue at hand)16:14
perishGimmiLFactorY check your private16:14
sirronbNeed some help with Grub booting. Tried Boot-Repair and it did not make any changes. Can't see my Windoze installation. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365288/16:14
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: lspci | grep VGA16:14
cordycepszykotick9: yeah, I did that just in case.16:14
Aut0ExecGimmiLFactorY: yeah i just hate begging16:14
cordycepsskinnkavaj: unetbootin16:15
marcomexciao16:15
StrangeNoisesoh that's unpleasant. saucy installer's gone into a sulk because i tried saying 'log in later' at the ubuntu one screen16:15
StrangeNoisesthat is not cool16:15
skinnkavajcordyceps: unetbootin?16:16
cordycepslook it up16:16
MonkeyDust!info unetbootin16:16
ubottuunetbootin (source: unetbootin): installer of Linux/BSD distributions to a partition or USB drive. In component universe, is optional. Version 575-1ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 284 kB, installed size 830 kB16:16
zykotick9unetbootin is weak.  the ubuntu isos are hybrid, you can use cat/cp/dd to move them to the root of your USB drive and they should boot.  cordyceps skinnkavaj16:17
irgautvolhitsujiTMO grep -A 3 -B 3 - gives product RV370 [Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series] but other users can get to gui - just with lots of flickering but maybe this can be set off?16:17
hitsujiTMOStrangeNoises: normall it locks there if you try to login or create an account. you'd be the first to have it lock there when trying to skip it16:17
ActionParsnipskinnkavaj: unetbootin also runs on mac and windows16:18
skinnkavajweak?16:19
StrangeNoisesweird thing too, when i *tried* to type in the email field, the characters appeared to the right of the cursor16:19
skinnkavajzykotick9: what do you mean with weak?16:19
zykotick9ActionParsnip: it's unetbootin on windows, i fear the most... ;)16:19
ActionParsnipzykotick9: works fine here16:19
skinnkavajzykotick9: can you get virus or what?16:19
davidwI fished a few packages out of debian unstable - now it's time to downgrade - what's the most efficient way of doing so?16:19
MonkeyDusthilite virus16:19
zykotick9skinnkavaj: create the usb, then reboot to the ISO not being able to find the cdrom... is the most common.16:19
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: you probably need to be running a different driver to get it working. what driver are you on now?16:20
zykotick9skinnkavaj: s/the ISO/the installer/16:20
zykotick9!virus > skinnkavaj16:20
ubottuskinnkavaj, please see my private message16:20
skinnkavajzykotick9: so what is a better way to do it?16:21
skinnkavajim installing ubuntu first time on an old computer16:22
zykotick9skinnkavaj: are you on windows or gnu/linux to create the usb?16:22
skinnkavajwindows16:22
techlordHello all I have issue that the image thumbnails are showing as clocks for the icons anyone have a idea how to fix this?16:22
irgautvolhitsujiTMO driver=pcieport Do you know command for setting Session=ubuntu for unity?16:22
zykotick9skinnkavaj: are you sure that "old computer" supports booting usb?  if you are on windows, use unetbootin...16:22
skinnkavajalright16:22
skinnkavaji will use unebootin even though it is "weak16:22
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: it should automatically be trying to run standard unity. its probably failing hence the black screen16:23
StrangeNoisesat this rate i might dig out the 13.04 installer, because that worked completely smoothly. they do seem to have broken stuff16:24
StrangeNoiseshangs for ages at various points of the install16:24
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: try this: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf                   change it there to: user-session=ubuntu16:25
irgautvolhitsujiTMO if I stop lightdm as root and start again I can select another user or a new user and can get to normal gui. How can I also switch to gnome for myself?16:25
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: or try: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s ubuntu16:25
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: that should set the default for a;;16:26
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irgautvolhitsujiTMO no.1 was already set. no. 2: responds with Cannot open for reading: "ubuntu"16:28
StrangeNoisesok, let me past the second time16:29
sirronbLooking for help with the grub2 bootloader. I do not have the option to boot Windoze7. Can someone please help. I'm a nuby novice and dont know what to do. :(16:29
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: so if you create a new user, that user can get to unity?16:29
irgautvolhitsujiTMO sorry I did a vim before16:29
irgautvolhitsujiTMO yes. something specific to my user - me16:30
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: you must have some other incompatible configuration causing the problem so16:30
hitsujiTMOdo you have a .xsession file?16:31
Aut0Execsirronb: did you pay a donation when you downloated?16:32
StrangeNoiseshehe16:32
StrangeNoisesaaah, that's what the problem is16:32
Aut0Execo__016:32
PiciAut0Exec: knock it off.16:32
ikoniaAut0Exec: can you please stop asking that, it's none of your business16:32
Aut0Execok16:32
StrangeNoisesi didn't either16:32
Aut0Execnp16:32
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: also can you pastebin .xsession-errors16:32
sirronbAut0Exec: No sir16:33
Aut0Execsirronb: thats unfortunate :)16:33
deper29sirronb: do you have os-prober16:33
irgautvolhitsujiTMO .xsession-errors show crash stuff. Now I got to the background screen in gui after restarting lightdm - still without any controls16:33
sirronbAut0Exec: No sir - never heard of. I was told this morning to use "boot-repair-disk". It did nothing. I can send you the paste.ubuntu16:34
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: can you still post .xsession-errors    might give a clue as to whats preventing unity from loading16:34
irgautvolhitsujiTMO .dmrc is still Session=gnome-fallback16:34
deper29sirronb: I would try os-prober. That's what I use. I think it's just 'sudo os-prober'16:35
sirronbdeper29:  No sir - never heard of. I was told this morning to use "boot-repair-disk". It did nothing. I can send you the paste.ubuntu16:36
Lars_GOk, sorry but what IS the right toold to change what's run on each runlevel with upstart?16:36
irgautvolhitsujiTMO I have to retype here.. at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawing (multple) then update-notifier-crash (.... terminated with status 127) (multiple)16:36
sirronbdeper29: tried that - no repsonse16:36
deper29sirronb: hold on a second, let me dig out the docs16:37
hitsujiTMOLars_G: vim, nano, gedit... what ever you prefer. just remember that there is only 1 runlevel that you're running in16:37
sirronbdeper29: Okay16:37
Lars_GhitsujiTMO: You mean edit the runlevel on the init file itself? ugh. So there's no tool to disable an init in a runlevel?16:37
StrangeNoisesdo runlevels even exist any more? thought just services had dependencies and it sorted itself out16:37
deper29sirronb: try mounting the drive with Windows on it16:37
ActionParsnip!runlevel16:38
ubottuIn Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.16:38
ActionParsnipdeper29: partition ;)16:38
Lars_G!Upstart16:38
ubottuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/16:38
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Lars_Glets see I saw those docs and I saw no reference on disabling stuff but I'll see again16:38
deper29ActionParsnip: oh, I did not know it was a partition. derp.16:38
deper29sirronb: s/drive/partition/16:38
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors16:39
deper29ActionParsnip: ugh, you know what I meant.16:39
jubaleI created a symlink between /usr/bin/something and /opt/something/something, but using symlink returned command not found.16:40
* deper29 gets coffee16:40
sirronbdeper29: The drive is mounted and I can see the directories and files. GParted show all the drives and the structure looks okay.16:40
ikoniajubale: what was the command you linked16:40
Lars_Gjubale: the command is "ln -s" for a symbolic link16:40
irgautvolhitsujiTMO : /var/crash/_usr_lib_i386-linux-gnu_indicator-sound..     ok give me some time16:40
Lars_GOh I get it now.16:40
deper29sirronb: you just mounted now?16:40
deper29or was it mounted when you ran os-prober?16:40
hitsujiTMOlars_g: you edit the config files in /etc/init but everything is effective running in runlevel 2. you have more control with upstart where you can start and stop services based on other services being active, or a network interface going up. have a look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/16:41
Lars_Gjubale: Make sure a) /opt/something/something is +x  b) /usr/bin is in PATH and c) You symlinked in the right direction16:41
jubaleI did 'sudo ln -s ./manager-linux-x64.run /usr/bin/lampp-manager ', but calling lampp-manager returned command not found.16:41
sirronbdeper29: It is always there. Just cannot see it on the GRUB2 bootloader. So I donb't have the option to boot to Windoze16:41
StrangeNoisesouch if c: is no :-)16:41
StrangeNoisesjubale: you should use the full path16:42
Lars_Gjubale: Ok, then, a) use full path for symlinking, b) check manager-linux-x64.run has the executable flag set16:42
StrangeNoisesit's looking for manager-linux-x64.run in /usr/bin16:42
ikoniajubale: you'll find that link is wrong16:42
StrangeNoisesyeah16:42
ikoniajubale: ls -la .//usr/bin/lampp-manager16:42
ikoniajubale: ls -la /usr/bin/lampp-manager16:43
jubaleUsed full path and now it says permission denied.16:43
StrangeNoisesalso, /usr/local/bin might be a better choice16:43
StrangeNoisesfor your link16:43
Lars_GStrangeNoises: c should only be harmfull if both files exist, so symlinking would fail anyhow16:43
ikoniajubale: right, so look at the permissions on the target, not the link16:43
hitsujiTMOjubale: give the full math for manager-linux-x64.run16:43
Lars_Gjubale: And if you're symlinking again, remove the link you created wrongly first16:44
jubaleIt is owned by root16:44
ikoniajubale: ok, you're not root16:44
deper29sirronb: hmm, I do not know why os-prober doesn't see windows16:44
jubaleI used sudo16:44
ikoniajubale: and.....16:44
jubaleand it said not permitted16:45
ikoniajubale: what does it actually say - word for word16:45
hitsujiTMOdeper29: what's the output of: sudo fdisk -l16:45
jubaleUnable to initialize installer.16:45
jubaleIs /tmp writable ?16:45
jubaleIs SELinux enabled? You may need to disable it temporarily16:45
jubalePlease see below for details16:45
jubalehttp://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc3/index.html#id282605616:45
FloodBot1jubale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:45
deper29sirronb: see what hitsujiTMO said16:46
ikoniajubale: ok, so work through those problmes, 1.) is /tmp writable for you, 2.) are you using selinux (no as you're using ubuntu I assume)16:46
irgautvolhitsujiTMO /636559816:46
sirronbdeper29: I have 3 drives installed. 1 for Ubuntu; 1 for Windoze; 1 for databackups16:46
deper29sirronb: I believe you. can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'16:47
sirronbdeper29: It used to work until the last update. Then no more Windoze.16:47
Lars_Girgautvol: Is that md5?16:47
irgautvolLars_G no, ref for pastebinit16:48
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: must be some part of you gnome config causing the crash.16:48
jubaleYes, /tmp is world writable.16:49
irgautvolhitsujiTMO : Yes I agree, but how do I debug?16:49
ikoniajubale: can I just ask why you are not just using a standard lamp install ?16:49
sirronbdeper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365615/16:49
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: the norm is to start resetting the configs by remaning them16:50
jubaleBecause I choose not to deal with the configurations.16:50
ikoniaconfigurations ?16:50
btorchwhere does upstart keeps track of when a service is up ? I'm having some issues with it16:50
jubaleBecause I chose to use XAMPP. It is not a crime.16:50
deper29sirronb: can I see your /etc/fstab?16:50
irgautvolhitsujiTMO : Ok which? I started renaming folders.16:50
ikoniajubale: no, it's not a crime, it just makes things a lot harder for you, so I was just offering some advice that may make it better for you16:51
btorchit thinks the service is up and running when in fact it isn't .. I see no pid for the service where it should be16:51
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: try starting with .config16:51
jubaleI've found at easier to use XAMPP for now. I'll probably use lampp in the future.16:51
ikoniajubale: not sure how you've found it easier when you've not got it installed16:52
jubaleIt is installed, I shut down standard lamp services.16:52
hitsujiTMOsirronb: can you tell us the output of: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda | pastebinit16:52
ikoniajubale: standard lamp services ? they should not be installed unless you installed them16:52
davidwis there a way to show all packages that have a version greater than that in the repository?16:52
ikoniajubale: why would you install lamp to then install xamp16:53
jubaleYes, I did install them. I just haven't been using them.16:53
ikoniathis is a bad configuration16:53
sirronbdeper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365636/16:53
jubaleMy problem isn't specific to XAMPP, nor is this channel. And, I do not believe I have to justify my choice to anyone.16:53
deper29sirronb: 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'16:54
ikoniajubale: your problem startin Xammp IS specific to Xammp. that's why you are asking for help running it16:54
ikoniajubale: you don't have to justify anything - so I'll wish you good luck moving forward.16:54
sirronbhitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365637/16:54
bozeWhen I left click it often registers a double-click on my logitech mx5500 wireless mouse. Not sure where to start. Is that a hardware, driver, or ubuntu  problem?16:54
hitsujiTMOsirronb: your windows install is an mbr install and your ubuntu install is a uefi install16:54
jubaleNo. I asked for help getting a symlink to work. I've been using XAMPP for weeks.16:55
irgautvolhitsujiTMO ok that did not work. I mv .config to _oldconfig. switched user and after login have black screen again for me (gui) Other gui user is ok16:55
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: try some of the other .folders16:55
ikoniajubale: the symlink works, thats why you are getting the error - because it's executing16:55
sirronbhitsujiTM0: What must I do to fix it16:55
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jubaleOkay.16:55
hitsujiTMOsirronb: you may need to reinstall ubuntu can you tell us the output of: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda | pastebinit16:56
MonkeyDustjubale  xampp does not even have its own dedicated channel (anymore)16:56
MonkeyDustjubale  that is: there's no one there16:57
jubaleManager launches if I execute it directly. Launching via symlink is what has an issue.16:57
Grimm0hey , im trying to install Ubuntu 13 on a machine with UEFI  , next to a windows 7 (dual boot), can i get support through this process ?16:57
sirronbhitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365656/16:57
irgautvolhitsujiTMO how do I kill that vt8 session for me - to make sure I can move the .Xauth folder and restart the login16:58
ikoniajubale: it maybe statically linked16:58
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: .Xauth isnt a folder16:58
jubaleWhy would that matter?16:58
Grimm0so ive formatted all drives , windows 7 is fresh installed on my SSD drive , it has one partition with 100mb EFI system partition. Now i want to install ubuntu on my secondary HDD16:58
ikoniajubale: is this ubuntu ?16:59
MisioPysioHello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help16:59
ikoniajubale: is this on ubuntu16:59
jubaleYes.16:59
ikoniajubale: what version16:59
jubale13.0416:59
Grimm0anything special i have to take in mind now ?16:59
anon12I removed bumblebee and installed nvidia-prime. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-prime did not work and only provided a login shell at startup. I replaced the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.backup file in /etc/X11 after rebooting the laptop's builtin monitor is in a low resolution mode of 640x480 but the external monitor on the HDMI1 output is at the right resolution. How do I get the xorg.conf file settings right to have the main monitor at 1366x716:59
anon1268?16:59
ikoniajubale: is it on a desktop or a virtual host16:59
jubaleLaptop, not virtual host16:59
hitsujiTMOsirronb: sudo lsblk | pastebinit16:59
StrangeNoisesGrimm0: you can pick the drive to install on, and the drive to put the bootloader on, during the install process. you probably want to put the bootloader on the win7 ssd, but the ubuntu install itself on the drive you have ready for it.17:00
ikoniajubale: ok, so there should be nothing like apparmor blocking it, so if it's staticlly linked it's expecting files to be in a certain place, normally from an absoloute path reference17:00
ikoniajubale: if your running it from a differnet working directory, eg: a symlink, those paths maybe wrong17:00
jubaleOh.17:00
sirronbhitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365674/17:00
Grimm0Stranngenoises, i will try this now , last time i had issues as the GRUB didnt load so it would always start up windows , not giving me the choice of which OS to boot17:01
MisioPysioHello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help17:01
bozexev is cool17:01
hitsujiTMOsirronb: finally: mount | pastebinit17:02
Grimm0ok the GRUB loaded , so try ubuntu without installing , or straight to Install ubuntu ?17:02
loizbekHi everyone, I have a DELL XPS 13z under ubuntu (with cinnamon) that behaves very strangely… 70GB are unaccounted for17:02
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jaminanyone have advice on how to debug policykit issues?  I'd like to dig further into bug #1248249 but haven't found any resource on how to debug policy kit17:03
ubottubug 1248249 in policykit-desktop-privileges (Ubuntu) "regression: local admin not authorized for many tasks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124824917:03
hitsujiTMOsirronb: have at some stage reinstalled windows?17:03
Roryloizbek: Can you please run the command "sudo df -h" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com then put the resulting URL in this channel?17:03
sirronbhitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365681/17:03
Grimm0last time i tried this , i also had issues with my graphics card , and there was a command i had to use , was it denomoset ?17:03
Rory!nomodeset | Granis17:03
ubottuGranis: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:03
paramhow to install make in ubuntu 12.0417:03
samuelqI just installed 13.10 with encryted LVM but at boot it's not letting me enter a password. I don't think it's accepting any keyboard input. Any ideas?17:03
RorySorry Granis that was meant for Grimm017:03
irgautvolhitsujiTMO sorry I meant as group ..     .Xauthority .Xauthority-c and .Xauthority-l17:04
Grimm0Rory, thank you for the link , exactly what i needed17:04
Roryparam: sudo apt-get install make17:04
sirronb hitsujiTM0: I have not re-installed no17:04
loizbekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6365690/17:04
samuelqKeyboard works fine pre-boot, selecting the OS to boot, and in the live CD. It's only the crypt password entry that doesn't work. I tried with a wireless USB keyboard and a cabled USB keyboard.17:04
loizbekRory Iput the pastebin a couple lines above17:05
irgautvolhitsujiTMO  the latter two is anyway zero size17:05
parammake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.17:05
paramRory : make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.17:05
Roryparam: Looks like you already have "make" installed then :) What are you actually trying to do by the way?17:05
Roryloizbek: What do you mean by "70G unaccounted for" ?17:06
DamienCassouhi17:06
loizbekRory: I have used baobab that says my home directory weighs 195 GB.17:07
DamienCassousince recently (probably update to 13.10), I can't enter accented characters through a dead key in Emacs anymore. It works in all other apps, even in Emacs in a terminal. I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and Emacs 24.3.1. I use the "English (international AltGr dead keys)" input source17:07
MisioPysioHello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help17:07
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: ignore them for now and try other .files and folders17:07
Roryloizbek: Probably means you have something mounted somewhere in your home directory. Could you run the command "mount" and pastebin it for me again please?17:08
irgautvolhitsujiTMO I think I have tried all the resent ones17:08
Grimm0ok , im at the partition table in ubuntu intallation (something else at install) , here is where i really need help as i never got properly passed this step17:09
RoryMisioPysio: The brightness levels are generally under ACPI control with the levels defined in firmware. For example the ACPI control method _BCL "Query List of Brightness Control Levels Supported" informs the kernel how many brightness levels are supported. You can't realistically change this.17:09
hitsujiTMOMisioPysio: have a look at the scripts in /etc/acpi/events/17:10
loizbekRory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365711/17:10
Grimm0currently i see this = /dev/sda1 EFI 100mb ,    /dev/sda2  134mb  unknown      ,  /dev/sda3 ntfs 119793mb ( this is the main SSD partition with Windows7 on)      /dev/sdb  = 1tb free space17:10
loizbekAccording to baobab that 195 GB folder contains :  59.8 + 27.2 + 16.9 + 12.9 + 3.4 + 1.5 + 0.23 + 0.2 + 0.13 + 0.1 + 51 folders < 100 M → total < 128 GB17:11
MisioPysioRory i meant i have 8 brightness levels(from 0 to 7) accesable by program (i've forgot the name looks like sunshine) but when im using Fn keys its jumping to much17:11
Grimm0so i select the free space under /dev/sdb , i click the + sign , the create partition dialog pops up17:11
loizbek=> 67 GB that my home folder contains are in no folder scanned by baobab17:11
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RoryMisioPysio: You could install the xbacklight application http://askubuntu.com/questions/103249/how-to-increase-brightness-in-smaller-steps17:12
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MisioPysioi've tried it nothing changes17:12
loizbek+ I've cleared 30+ GB this week end haven't added data and today I've had to make space again, which is really really unusual17:12
Grimm0so i give 200000mb for the first partition (where i want ubuntu installed) , thats 200gig right ?17:12
Roryloizbek: Probably means you have something mounted somewhere in your home directory. Could you run the command "mount" and pastebin it for me again please?17:12
irgautvol<hitsujiTMO   .dmrc still says gnome-fallback ; I am sure I can get this out of the way it will be solved ;^) .....?17:12
MisioPysioRory i mean i have all this things working, but only intervals when im using Fn keys are incorrect... - weird17:13
Grimm0and i make it Primary , beginneing of this space ,  ext4 . What do i use as mount point ?17:13
Grimm0just / ?17:13
RoryMisioPysio: Those intervals are defined in your laptop's firmware and can't be realistically changed17:13
irgautvol<hitsujiTMO It seems like user specific setting outside of user folder17:13
loizbekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6365736/17:14
RoryGrimm0: / is the mountpoint where Ubuntu is installed yes17:14
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irgautvol<hitsujiTMO I may be wrong ...ofcourse17:14
Grimm0Rory, ok so i can create this partition , i dont need to create a boot partition before i do this ??17:14
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: ok create a user and add it to the sudo group. then log into that and rename your home folder. then: sudo cp -r /etc/skel /home/<yourhomefoldername>17:14
Roryloizbek: Yes there's something mounted there, you can see by the line "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/loizbek/.gvfs" - look in the sidebar of Nautilus and you will see what is mounted. Be aware it's not actually taking any space on your hard drive, it's just mounted under /home and so is being counted by baobab17:15
hitsujiTMOMisioPysio: you can try playing with xrandr --output <yourdisplay> --brightness <level>               valid levels are from 0 to 1.17:16
loizbekRory: really I believe it goes beyond mounted drives… I would not have used 25 GB over two days without copying anything on the computer17:16
irgautvol<hitsujiTMO YES! I think that is the better way... Thanks I will try that.  I am leaving for now... Will let you know if the login has worked17:16
samgabbayHello Canonicallians And Ubuntunians17:16
Chat2235Hi17:16
Roryloizbek: Do you have a network share mounted? What is actually in the folder "/home/loizbek/.gvfs" ?17:16
anon12I removed bumblebee and installed nvidia-prime. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-prime did not work and only provided a login shell at startup. I replaced the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.backup file in /etc/X11 after rebooting the laptop's builtin monitor is in a low resolution mode of 640x480 but the external monitor on the HDMI1 output is at the right resolution. How do I get the xorg.conf file settings right to have the main monitor at 1366x717:16
anon1268?17:16
pizzasauceis it possible to create an aliase for all users? for example, I would like to create the aliase chromium for chromium-browser --proxy-server=example:808017:16
Rorypizzasauce: Yes, in the file /etc/bashrc17:17
hitsujiTMOirgautvol: you will need to sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser             after you you do all that y17:17
Rorypizzasauce: sorry /etc/bash.bashrc - or similar17:17
Grimm0so now it looks like /dev/sdb1 ext4 , mount point / , 200000mb . What do i do next , boot partition , or swap ? do i need swap ? i got 8 gig ram ddr3 and i can still physically add more , but i have enough HDD space to allocate SWAP space if its better17:17
loizbekRory: can't see it on the side : I have unmounted my iPod and the DELL utility which were not in home17:18
RoryGrimm0: You don't *need* swap. YOu don't *need* a boot partition17:18
loizbekRory: but i know nothing of that fuse daemon17:18
loizbekwhich is not displayed17:18
Roryloizbek: Can you run the command: "ls -alh ~/.gvfs" and pastebin it please?17:18
hitsujiTMOanon12: have you tried without an xorg.conf ?17:18
abradleyFiles are read-only when mounted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365754/17:19
Grimm0oh ok ,  i understood something else . But where does it install the GRUB 2 then ? on the ubuntu partition17:19
Grimm0?17:19
abradleyHow can I get rw access?17:19
loizbekRory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365756/17:19
RoryGrimm0: Yes it will install it to the MBR, and files in /boot - whether that is a separate parttion or not makes no difference17:19
Grimm0keep in mind i have this UEFI setup.. dont know if thats the game changer , but had a lot of issues with it in the past17:19
anon12hitsujiTMO, should I rm/mv xorg.conf and restart?17:20
Roryloizbek: So now you have unmounted everything, does your file usage tool still over-report space?17:20
hitsujiTMOanon12: mv17:20
pizzasauceRory: thank you.17:20
anon12hitsujiTMO, what should happen after reboot?17:20
Grimm0is it still wise to add 8gig SWAP space , just to play safe ? or is that nonsense ?17:20
hitsujiTMOanon12: hopefully you should get a normal desktop17:21
loizbekRory: Yep 195 GB… with the same folder sizes17:21
anon12hitsujiTMO, can I restart the xserver from a terminal without reboot?17:21
hitsujiTMOanon12: its more or less a reboot, considering that its up before you login17:22
Grimm0device for boot loader installation goes to /dev/sda ? (thats where windows is installed)17:22
hitsujiTMOabradley: if you are just getting ro when specifying rw then thats probably an issue with config on serverside17:22
anon12hitsujiTMO, I will be back in about 5~10 minutes to let you know if it worked17:22
paramhttp://tinypic.com/r/kbcf85/5  Rory I get this error17:23
abradleyhitsujiTMO, thanks for your input. THe share is setup correctly. Other windows machines can rw correctly17:23
loizbekRory: when I first noticed this, the free space of the HD was changing in nautilus, each time I was updated…17:23
hitsujiTMOare they able to write when the machine itself is not authed with the domain tho?   the server may have seperate permissions for machine and user auth17:26
SerusHi17:26
SerusI was thinking I wasn't feeling well, so I went to sleep for a "bit"17:27
Serusslept for 8 hours O.O17:27
Kartagisat last I'm back with kvirc17:28
Serushow is kvirc?17:28
Grimm0Can someone please tell me i got my partitions ok before i click install now , i had so much issues with it in the past , never got it right . So machine with UEFI , 128gig SSD with windows 7 installed and a EFI partition. Secondary HDD for ubuntu /dev/sdb1 = ext 4 , 200gig , mount point /        . /dev/sdb2 SWAP 8 gig , primary    , and then i got 800gig of free space i would like to partition in windows as NFTS for data sharing between 17:28
anon12hitsujiTMO, removing xorg.conf worked17:28
e-coffeeO_O wow 1848 people in here17:29
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SerusGrimm0, Are you the Grimm3 I talked with?17:29
Pici7017:29
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: us the isntaller in uefi mode?17:29
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: is the isntaller*17:29
SerushitsujiTMO, typing is hard isn't it :P17:30
Grimm0ow damm it wasnt loading the screen here lol . Serus , yeah thats me , same guy of this midda17:31
Grimm0hitsujiTMO , how can i know ?17:31
SerusGrimm0, mind if I talk with you in private? (in dutch)17:32
hitsujiTMOGrimm): when you booted the isntaller from the boot menu did you choose: UEFI17:32
loizbekRory : I see you are very solicitated, I guess I haven't been able to state my problem well enough for you to figure out what's wrong…17:32
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: are you also mount the efi system partition as /boot/efi    ?17:32
Grimm0i dont think i had that option , i am installing from a liveUSB , and when in UEFI choosing boot priority , it just gave the Sandisk USB as a possibility , but i dont think it said UEFI with it17:33
SerusGrimm0, I have a command for you that can tell you that17:33
Grimm0the efi system partition was created with the install of windows automaticly , i dint create ay EFI partition myself , but i do have the option to do that in the partition table17:34
bendoghy17:34
Grimm0Serus, can i use a command while in the partition table screen of ubuntu ?17:34
SerusGrimm0, open a terminal in ubuntu17:34
bendogkann mir jemand bissi helfen? hab internetprobleme17:34
Serusbendog, please speak english in this channel17:35
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: you still need to mount the efi system partition as /boot/efi    .... just don't format it17:35
Grimm0serus, while in the install dialog ?17:35
bendogoh, ok. i see.17:35
Grimm0hitsujiTMO, the one that windows created right ?17:35
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: yes17:35
SerusGrimm0, click on the home dash and then type terminal17:35
bendogis there an german channel or someone who may help me?17:35
Pici!de  | bendog17:36
ubottubendog: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!17:36
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Grimm0serus, i dont have that home dash i think , i got the black bar on top , all the way right i have this blue guy symbol and internet symbol next to it , no home or command anywhere to be found17:37
Grimm0hitsujiTMO , if i click the EFI partition that windows created while in the ubuntu partition table , i cant edit anything except size and Use as17:37
SerusGrimm0, when you press the windows button you can see a menu right?17:37
Grimm0only hgh cntrasst , screen reader , keyboard modifier and on screen keyboard17:38
Serusbut you can search right?17:38
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: you just want to tell it to mount it as /boot/efi  thats it17:39
Grimm0nope , im thinking its because i have a second monitor , should maybe try again and unplug that one first as the resolution is not all the way ok , thats maye why its hiding the rest of the bar17:39
SerusGrimm0, what did you select? Try ubuntu or install ubuntu?17:39
hitsujiTMOSerus he's in the installer mode,not live mode17:39
Grimm0hitsujiTMO, i dont find how to add the mount point ..17:39
Grimm0Serus, install ubuntu . Should have gone for try ubuntu without installing ?can start over17:40
SerusGrimm0, Too hard17:40
SerusYes do that17:40
strixUK1hi.  i have a from-scratch ubuntu 12.04 server installation, and i am scratching my head why it doesn't perform comparably to the machine it's replacing (hostgator-configured, centos 5.9-based thing).17:40
hitsujiTMOGrimm0: hmm, all i can say is hopefully the installer automatically mounts it for you17:40
SerushitsujiTMO, It only does when he is in UEFI mode17:40
strixUK1example: loading a 230-odd MB SQL dump takes 45 sec on new machine, and 30 on old.17:40
Grimm0lets try again from try ubuntu first , sounds like more options there17:40
Serusyes17:40
loizbekRory : I'm a dumb fuck, it was a 70 GB file not folder…17:41
strixUK1any pointers as to what sort of tuning i should be looking at?17:41
h00kloizbek: please keep the lanauge appropriate in here17:41
loizbekRory: yet I don't understand how I get 70 GB worth of xsession-errors17:41
Grimm0i can check if its booting the drive in UEFI maybe now as wel17:42
loizbekh00k: sorry about that17:42
hitsujiTMOstrixUK1: you may want to ask the same question in #ubuntu-server too17:42
Grimm0yes , boot order says boot option one = UEFI: sandisk (the live usb)17:42
loizbekh00k: kind of got mad at myself for not seeing something obvious and having people loose time over it17:42
loizbekRory: thanks for the help anyway…17:42
h00k:) been there17:42
SerusGrimm0, If that works it will boot in UEFI mode (unless it has a fallback mode)17:43
Grimm0and thats a good thing ? =D17:43
strixUK1hitsujiTMO: ah bonus, thank you17:43
Serusnot really :p17:43
SerusBecause that will make you think it's in UEFI mode when it's not.17:43
Grimm0mmm , can i switch it is the question then17:43
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SerusGrimm0, it depends on the files that are on the USB17:44
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loizbekwell good night to you guys and gals…17:44
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Serusgood night17:44
SerusGrimm0, you should also have a tab in your irc that says "Serus"17:45
Grimm0yes i can change it , in the Hard drive BBS priorities , i could bring the 'normal' Usb : sandisk up , and its now boot option one17:45
SerusGrimm0, boot it in UEFI mode17:45
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Tested to log out, did nothing. When I get to the login screen I see the power button in the top bar but not after logging in anymore.17:45
Grimm0allright17:46
hitsujiTMODrGrov: have a look at the ~/.xsession-errors file17:46
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok.17:46
MisioPysioHey im having some troubles with adjusting brightness with Fn keys, http://oi42.tinypic.com/4rax53.jpg - to ilustrate what im talking about. there are 8 levels (from 0 to 7 fully accesable by indicator brightness but not through Fn) it seems like its jumping through more than 12,5 % - like it shoudl be. Any ideas?17:46
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Nothing much there.17:47
hitsujiTMODrGrov: thats the only log i can think of that would give a clue17:47
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: It says at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning a few times until the last line where it says, respwaning too fast, stopped.17:47
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Could it be a setting somehow somewhere+17:48
DrGrov?17:48
hitsujiTMODrGrov: its a common bug tbh. i have random indicators not load for mee all the time. for some they never see certain indicators17:49
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: But how come it was visible until now then?17:50
olf-folksok guys say i accidentally apt-get installed something   and it ended up installing something that broke my computer, were would one find a log that shows what got installed and now needs to be removed17:50
hitsujiTMOMisioPysio: did you have a look at the scripts in /etc/acpi/events/     ?17:50
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: /var/log/apt/history.log17:51
MisioPysiohitsujiTMO: forgot about it give me a sec17:51
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Could I sort this problem out by switching to something else than Unity?17:51
hitsujiTMODrGrov: you could try standard gnome17:51
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: How stable is XFCE? That should be fine with the top bar stuff?17:51
Arrowebhi, one question, anybody has test a minimal iso of ubuntu 12.04? for any reason it stuck on sreen, but with latest version works fine17:51
hitsujiTMODrGrov: xfce should be quite stable, but i've never used it. I would try gnome first17:52
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok. GNOME meaning what exactly? The Classic something?17:52
MisioPysiohitsujiTMO:  i have files like these in there : asus-keyboard-backlight-down and asus-keyboard-backlight-up (ironically im runing on fujitsu-siemens)17:52
ActionParsnipArroweb: did you MD5 test the 12.04 mini ISO you downloaded?17:53
olf-folkshitsujiTMO,  your the best17:53
hitsujiTMODrGrov: not classic just gnome: without the unity theme17:53
ActionParsnipolf-folks: you're17:53
pizzasaucehas anyone successfully used Privoxy? I couldn't not make whitelist work17:53
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Do I need to download that at all?17:53
ArrowebActionParsnip: yes, could you test it and tell me if to you works?17:53
olf-folksActionParsnip, i am not good with english17:53
ActionParsnipArroweb: I have it running now, i always use minimal to avoid bloat17:53
ActionParsnipolf-folks: its cool :)17:54
ArrowebActionParsnip: the 12.04 version?17:54
ActionParsnipArroweb: yes, I like to stick with LTS17:54
ArrowebO_o17:54
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Well I am off to test.17:54
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Thanks again :)17:54
ActionParsnipArroweb: what video chip do you use?17:54
ArrowebActionParsnip: NVIDIA, but with the latest version for example, it works without problems, I think could be the urls to repos from iso maybe?17:55
hitsujiTMODrGrov: there's a package or an alternative installer ... i think the package might be gnome-panel17:55
ActionParsnipArroweb: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=117:56
ActionParsnipArroweb: I assume you are not using an Optimus system17:56
ArrowebActionParsnip: in vbox, the same problem17:56
MisioPysiohitsujiTMO: i've found script doing the brightness up/down thing17:56
Arrowebis something strange lol17:57
hitsujiTMOMisioPysio: you may need to follow that to the actual script doing the work and modify the script. failing that you could play with xrandr .... you can get your display name from the output of: xrandr            and then run: xrandr --output <displayname> --brightness <level>       valid levels are from 0.0 to 1.017:58
TJ-In Empathy chat client, how do we disable the automatic translation of text into emoticons? It interferes with copying/pasting code fragments, especially grep expressions17:58
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Strange. I logged out, did not see the power button at login screen but now when I logged in without a reboot it shows up properly17:58
ActionParsnipArroweb: maybe the newer xorg is needed for your particular nvidia chip17:59
ActionParsnipArroweb: i use an nvidia 6150LE onboard, works well17:59
hitsujiTMODrGrov: as i said earlier: its a common random bug... it happens mainly for the clock for me.17:59
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok. Would all other DE's have that same problem?17:59
ArrowebActionParsnip: ok, but not works in vbox neitger (in other pc with Intel card neither)18:00
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: In case it does not happen with other DE's I will switch. How do I select another WM/DE at the login screen btw? Did not see anything.18:00
Arrowebfor that, is something strange18:00
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ActionParsnipArroweb: very18:01
Arrowebthought that could be other url on iso18:01
bekksArroweb: Its not strange but perfectly intended that you cannot use your hosts GPU in a virtualbox vm.18:01
hitsujiTMODrGrov: no. gnome might as its the same base code, but they don't start apps early like what happens in unity. you can install gnome with: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel         i think     and xfce is: sudo apt-get install xfce418:01
Arrowebbekks: In both pcs? hmm18:02
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok, it is gnome-panel that I want. Thanks :)18:02
bekksArroweb: Of course. Due to the nature of virtualization.18:03
thoonaihey18:03
bekksArroweb: You can read more about that in the vbox manual.18:03
Arrowebbekks: no, but in other pc with intel is same18:03
thoonaimy ubuntu 12.04 won't detect my wireless card with lspci18:03
thoonaiits an intel wifi 510018:03
Arrowebbut thanks anyway, I will tray to find the problem18:03
bekksArroweb: there is no problem.18:04
bekksArroweb: You cannot use the hosts GPU in a virtualbox vm.18:04
ArrowebI know that18:04
ArrowebI say with other pc (intel card, normal) not works neither18:04
bekksArroweb: Do you talk about a vm "not workin"?18:05
Arrowebthen for me is strange18:05
Arrowebbekks: in pc (not vm) and vm, both18:05
thoonaidoes someone uses a intel wifi link 5100 in an x200s?18:05
bekksArroweb: In a vm, just forget about it.18:05
lotuspsychjethoonai: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/261988/no-longer-able-to-use-wifi-adapter-intel-wifi-link-5100-ubuntu-12-0418:06
Arrowebbekks: yes, but the latest works fine, in both :)18:06
bekksArroweb: You should clarify what you are talking about.18:06
Arrowebbekks: ok I will star again hehehe18:07
Arrowebstart*18:07
thoonailotuspsychje: thanks, but this doesn work18:07
Arrowebok, I have a pc with nvidia card and other pc with intel card18:07
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Arrowebright?18:07
Arrowebso18:08
bekksArroweb: Dont use enter that often :P18:08
Arrowebsorry18:08
lotuspsychjethoonai: did you card work before on ubuntu?18:08
ArrowebI had downloaded de minimal iso of 12.04 (first, to test)18:09
thoonailotuspsychje: the output of lshw -c network doesnt display the wiki crd18:09
thoonailotuspsychje: nope18:09
bekksArroweb: Start stating your issue please, for clarification.18:09
lotuspsychjethoonai: did you check your additional drivers section?18:09
hitsujiTMOthoonai: can you pastebin the output of lspci18:09
thoonaihitsujiTMO: sure18:09
Arrowebbekks: 12.04 stuck screen, and 13.04 works fine18:10
bekksArroweb: Solvable with installing the graphics driver.18:10
AJH101IHi I have a clean install of 13.10 but there seems to be a problem with my repos. I have installed Y PPA Manager but this cannot seem to solve the issues. Any ideas?#18:10
Arrowebhmm18:10
hitsujiTMOArroweb: what exactly do you mean by stuck screen?18:11
bekksArroweb: Just in a vm, you have to use the guest additions, to install the graphics driver  for the vbox graphics adapter.18:11
thoonaihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6366016/18:11
thoonailotuspsychje: I tried once but it doesnt found any hardware for additional drivers18:11
Arrowebbekks: ahm I talking about my pc, not vm18:11
ArrowebhitsujiTMO: purple screen18:11
hitsujiTMOArroweb: boot with nomodeset18:12
ArrowebhitsujiTMO: ok, I'll try18:12
lotuspsychjethoonai: you did not accidentaly push the wifi button off, or disable in bios?18:12
bekksArroweb: Then install the correct graphics driver, after booting with the nomodeset option, e.g.18:12
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thoonailotuspsychje: nope and nope I checked both18:13
DrGrovSo if I install XFCE4 on 13.10 it is only "sudo apt-get install xfce4"?18:13
Arrowebbekks: That isn't that I mind18:13
thoonaii have no Idea. normally lspci should recognize the card even if there no drivers available18:13
Neobenedict!uptime18:13
lotuspsychje!info xfce418:14
ubottuxfce4 (source: xfce4): Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.10.1 (saucy), package size 4 kB, installed size 31 kB18:14
hitsujiTMOthoonai: is there a hardware switch turned off on the laptop?18:14
Neobenedictdamn 0 people, impressive18:14
thoonaiso but ive to go in few minutes so I'll get back later18:14
thoonaihitsujiTMO: no there isnt18:15
lotuspsychjethoonai: wifi card dead maybe?18:15
olf-folksis there a more good way to remove alot of packages at one time other than apt-get remove etc18:16
thoonailotuspsychje: I guess so and im quite unhappy bout this ida18:16
thoonaiidea18:16
bekksolf-folks: That is the best way.18:16
ActionParsnipolf-folks: you can list multiple packages in apt-get18:16
ActionParsnipolf-folks: sudo apt-get --purge remove package1 package2 package318:16
MagBoGreetings, I'm installing Ubuntu LTS, it generates valid crypttab for swap, but by the looks of it it fails to read it.18:17
lotuspsychjethoonai: you could try the livedvd and see if wifi works there maybe18:17
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: remove the main page that you installed and the dependents will also get removed18:17
olf-folkshitsujiTMO, i installed gnome-tweak-tool and right after that i rebooted and my sound no longer works18:18
ActionParsnipolf-folks: try:  killall pulseaudio18:18
hitsujiTMOolf-folks: that's the weirdest one yet18:18
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MagBoAlso, I'd like to have a shared encrypted /home with another Linux distro and I'd like to be queried for pasword when Ubuntu loads but — again — it fails to recoginze crypttab, so I need to go to tty1, luskOpen my device and mount it manually during each boot.18:19
AJH101Hi I have a clean install of 13.10 but there seems to be a problem with my repos so that they cannot update. I have installed Y PPA Manager but this cannot seem to solve the issues. Any ideas?18:19
MagBoolf-folks: pgrep pulseaudio?18:19
yeatsAJH101: can you pastebin the error you receive?18:20
hitsujiTMOAJH101: indian repos by any chance?18:20
AJH101hitsujiTMO: UK18:20
AJH101yeats: happy to - how?! :-)18:20
yeatshttp://paste.ubuntu.com18:21
hitsujiTMOAJH101: copy and paste :P18:21
AJH101hitsujiTMO: Failed to dowload repository information.18:22
hitsujiTMOAJH101: can you ping uk.archive.ubuntu.com ?18:23
AJH101hitsujiTMO: er...18:23
lotuspsychjeAJH101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363496/errors-while-updating-ubuntu-13-1018:24
olf-folkshttp://paste.debian.net/64151/18:24
ActionParsnipAJH101: can you pastebin the FULL output of:  sudo apt-get update     close software centre if you have it open18:24
ActionParsnipmy money is on medibuntu but lets see :)18:24
ActionParsnipolf-folks: what is the output of:   cat .etc.issue18:25
ActionParsnipolf-folks: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue18:25
ActionParsnipolf-folks: 2nd command please :) typo in the first one18:25
olf-folkssuperuser@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue18:26
olf-folksUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l18:26
olf-folksActionParsnip, i just installed it this morning18:28
ActionParsnipolf-folks: fully updated?18:29
olf-folksActionParsnip, yeah i ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade18:29
AJH101ActionParsnip: Cannot find the Pastebin link address and i do not want to paste directly here - can you help?18:29
olf-folksright after i installed it18:29
lotuspsychje!paste | AJH10118:29
ubottuAJH101: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:29
ActionParsnipAJH101: use http://pastie.org18:30
tony__i should be able to uninstall ati's vid drivers under software center shouldnt i ?18:30
DrGrovI am about to switch from Unity to XFCE4 on 13.10. Do settings and such what I have done now in programs and other settings be the same even though I change WM or DE?18:30
AJH101ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6366096/18:30
reisioDrGrov: your preferences won't disappear18:31
reisioDrGrov: even for applications you uninstall they won't18:31
DrGrovreisio: Good if that is the case. I am a bit paranoid about that kind of stuff.18:31
ActionParsnipAJH101: disable the CD as a package source, the rest is fine18:31
hitsujiTMOAJH101: comment out the cdrom in your apr sources18:31
SDrwhat's the argument for zip to compress the current directory only, without subdirectories?18:31
reisioDrGrov: data in ~/ (that is, /home/yourUser/) is usually not altered unless you ask for it to be18:31
lotuspsychjeDrGrov: are you planning to remove unity completly or not?18:31
DrGrovreisio: Is there any internet interaction or such in other WM or DE ?18:31
reisioSDr: the files in the current directory?18:32
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SDrreisio, yes18:32
reisioSDr: if they have a . in them, you could do zip foo.zip *.*18:32
DrGrovlotuspsychje: I am not sure if I should completely remove Unity. I hope that bugs would be fixed with the top bar and disappearing icons.18:32
reisioSDr: otherwise: zip foo.zip $(find . -maxdepth 1 -type f)18:32
ActionParsnipAJH101: you can use software centre to do it, or comment out the top few lines in /etc/apt/sources.list18:33
DrGrovSo the reason I asked is that I spent countless of hours tweaking Unity to my liking and if I switch I hope it won18:33
olf-folksi think it may be faster to format and reinstall rather than remove all of thoes packages18:33
reisioDrGrov: is there what now?18:33
DrGrovreisio: Huh?18:33
reisioDrGrov: no settings should be altered, they'll just sit there and wait for Unity, even if you uninstall Unity18:33
reisioDrGrov: and if they don't, you don't want to use such daft software anyways18:34
DrGrovreisio: Ok, but probably would be the best to completely remove Unity? Just to be on the safe side and start fresh so to speak?18:34
AJH101ActionParsnip: Thanks for the advice :-)18:34
reisioDrGrov: I don't know about safe, but it will help keep Xfce uncluttered18:34
reisioDrGrov: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu18:34
reisioDrGrov: might be out of date, now, but you get the idea18:34
lotuspsychjewe had a few users having issues here removing unity18:35
DrGrovreisio: Yes, probably uncluttered is the best for me. I do not like stuff hanging around from before.18:35
SDrreisio, yup, that works, thanks18:35
DrGrovreisio: Ok. Will look into that. Thanks18:35
Martinjo84Then install xubuntu :D18:35
olf-folksim thinking about installing xu18:35
lotuspsychje!xubuntu18:36
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels18:36
ActionParsnipAJ_Z0: no worries dude, the CLI will nearly always give more useful output than GUI things18:36
DrGrovlotuspsychje: But would I still need to keep Unity around?18:36
Martinjo84if you need it18:36
lotuspsychjeDrGrov: thats up to you mate, i would not do it personaly18:36
DrGrovlotuspsychje: You would leave Unity stuff around?18:37
lotuspsychjeDrGrov: yes, or switch to xubuntu like Martinjo84 suggests18:37
DrGrovlotuspsychje: I think I know what I do until I get some peace of mind. Fluxbox.18:37
DrGrovWhat risks are there when removing Unity?18:38
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sam113101I find ubuntu gnome to be more stable than ubuntu, is that weird?18:39
lotuspsychjeDrGrov: its supposed to all go flawless, but we had users removing unity and break stuff18:39
DrGrovlotuspsychje: Is there users who have actually managed to get it completely removed without issues?18:39
hitsujiTMODrGrov the risk is being stuck with just a kernel after apt-get messes up and uninstalls every dependency18:39
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok, that is then a no-go for me.18:40
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lotuspsychjeDrGrov: im sure there are many succesfull18:40
DrGrovlotuspsychje: That is a relief :)18:40
hitsujiTMODrGrov: if you install xfce or whatever first, its usually ok18:40
DrGrovI just can not stand Unity now with this missing power button.18:40
lotuspsychjeDrGrov: check the pure link from reisio18:40
reisiosam113101: not when you consider what Unity is based off, no18:41
DrGrovlotuspsychje: Will do.18:41
MagBo!crypttab18:41
lotuspsychje!info crypttab18:41
ubottuPackage crypttab does not exist in saucy18:41
sam113101reisio: what is it based off?18:42
MagBolotuspsychje: yeah, it's not a package. Do you know anything about how does Ubuntu handle crypttab though?18:42
SemajnadHello, can someone help me with the best way to do the following : /home/thenetwork/usr001 - this has to have an executable in that usr001 needs to be able to run, but I want the user jailed tto /home/thenetwork/usr001/directory - this directory. Plus, the executable in usr001 folder needs to be able to access the files in the /usr001/directory18:42
lotuspsychjeMagBo: sorry no18:42
DrGrovThis is too complicated anyhow.18:43
MagBook, sorry.18:43
DrGrovProbably best to just reinstall everything from scratch.18:43
reisiosam113101: Unity? GNOME 3 and compiz, a barely maintained buggy fancy window manager18:43
ActionParsnipreisio: barely maintained?18:43
MagBoSemajnad: is the binary in question the only thing user should be capable of running?18:43
ActionParsnipreisio: really?18:44
* lotuspsychje is happy with unity, compiz and wobbly windows :p18:44
MagBoSemajnad: can you copy files? If so, just copy it over and do chroot jail.18:44
* DrGrov is out18:44
* ActionParsnip uses OpenBox and enjoys no crashes and lots of free resources :)18:44
reisioActionParsnip: compared to other window managers, I'd say so yes18:44
lotuspsychje!info openbox > lotuspsychje18:44
sam113101unity next won't be a compiz plugin, right?18:45
SemajnadMagBo:  The directory structure /home/thenetwork/usr001 - this has an executable in and /home/thenetwork/usr001/directory - has files in the executable needs to access. So really I need those two folders available, but I don't want the user accessing the files in the usr001 folder. Plus the user needs sftp access into the second folder.18:45
k1lsam113101: right18:46
DoomaHello. I have a question. Is the dhcp server necessary for pxe install if I have both computers behind a router?18:46
ActionParsnipDooma: as long as you can get dhcp, its fine18:46
JokesOnYou77Hi all18:46
TJ-Dooma: PXE needs a BOOTP/DHCP server somewhere on the network segment, or else a DHCP relay/proxy if via a router18:47
hitsujiTMOon my low powered largenetbook/minilaptop i use unity quite happily, and on my large overly powered desktop (i7 + 32gb ram) i use openbox? Does any of that seem wrong to you guys?18:47
ActionParsniphitsujiTMO: seems fine to me. I'd always use openbox, even with 1Tb RAM18:47
MagBoSemajnad: well, you can simply use two ssh-commands attached to two keys. This way when user will run ssh -i /path/to/thenetwork_sftp_key thenetwork sftp wrapper will get executed, when she runs ssh -i /path/to/thenetwork_binary_key thenetwork, binary in question will be executed.18:47
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lotuspsychjeopenbox lookin neat here: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=openbox&offset=7218:48
MagBoSemajnad: I would strongly suggest using multiple keys and ssh-command over chroot jails, even though chroot-jails are the easiest thing to do.18:48
MagBoSemajnad: do you need any clarification, or everything that I said is understandable?18:48
hitsujiTMOlotuspsychje: i dont even have a background18:48
DoomaHmm, the router has dhcp, and it define ips automatically to computer. But, I set the TFPT server and when I start the PC to boot from network, it doesn't18:48
lotuspsychjehitsujiTMO: lol, i always loved ubuntu eyecandy..18:49
MagBoI really  need some halp with this — Ubuntu generates valid crypttab for swap, but by the looks of it it fails to read it. What's more: I'd like to have a shared encrypted /home with another Linux distro and I'd like to be queried for pasword when Ubuntu loads but — again — it fails to recoginze crypttab, so I need to go to tty1, luskOpen my device and mount it manually during each boot.18:49
snakeds_Hi guys. Is Deluge the best offer for a client bittorrent to put into my ubuntu server 12.04 (i'm a student) and plug-in with my iphone/chrome/firefox for download things direct in my server? Or should i maybe try something else?18:49
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/raring.png   :)18:50
lotuspsychjesnakeds_: i like transmission the most18:50
snakeds_another guy adviced me for transmission too18:50
hitsujiTMOSnake2k: transmission-daemon18:50
MagBosnakeds_: if you ask me, you should use rtorrent. You can simply manage it over SSH. Transmission is another great option as you run a headless instance and control it over a thin HTTP client.18:50
JokesOnYou77snakeds_: I use transmission and set up a password pretected frontend with apache18:50
MagBosnakeds_: but I personally use rtorrnt.18:50
MagBoJokesOnYou77: is Apache HTTP server still alive? o_018:51
snakeds_I need use what is more easyer to install, i'm jsut a student with very low experience18:51
TJ-MagoBo .... you'll need to be more specific about how you determine the 'failure to read' ... For a boot-time LUKS the initrd needs to include cryptsetup and crypttab entries and supporting kernel modules and binaries18:51
snakeds_install and run, ofcourse...18:51
JokesOnYou77MagBo: that was a joke, right?18:51
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: i have transmission also with password prteded frontend + ssl proxied thru nginx18:51
lotuspsychjeActionParsnip: nice1 !18:52
snakeds_most people are telling transmission, i'll call for it18:52
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: How often did you get that problem with the top bar in 13.10 Unity?18:52
snakeds_i think it'll take me 2 hours to install completely18:52
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snakeds_I didn't catch what transmission-daemon have to do with Web UI ?18:53
JokesOnYou77snakeds_: It's not overly complicated.  There is documentation on the transmission website and if you follow along and do some googleing oyu should be ok18:53
snakeds_Is web Ui the manager?18:53
hitsujiTMODrGrov: not too often. but then again this laptop can be on for days at a time18:53
lotuspsychjeActionParsnip: here's mine: http://oi41.tinypic.com/14vqqdf.jpg18:53
MagBoTJ-: great! Thanks, I'll look at initrd. Sorry, I really didn't thought that Ubuntu doesn't load all the needed stuff. But in case of encrypted swap it's just very strange because I have literally untouched fstab and cryptsetup generated by Ubuntu installer and it says "Failed to mount cryptswap1 S to skip, ...". I can lurk the logs but I thought that it's a common problem :)18:53
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: Ok. I just am testing now to see how many times it goes missing. Now 2 times already without it missing.18:54
MagBosnakeds_: it's backend for WebUI.18:54
DrGrovhitsujiTMO: If it continues probably will go with xfce.18:54
JokesOnYou77snakeds_: When you install the program you have the option of just running a background daemon that will download torrents for you and then you connect to that daemon from another computer over the web18:54
perois there anyway i can control the CLI parameters that the gmail unity web app is launched with?18:54
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: transmission-daemon comes with a web interface ... its safest to reverse proxy it thru a real web server18:54
DrGrovBrb18:54
snakeds_got it18:54
mammuthbonsoir j'ai des difficulté a me connecter a mon compt  admin  je ne peut pas changer mon password non plus que dois-je faire ? merci18:54
snakeds_but i don't have a real web server..18:54
lotuspsychje!fr | mammuth18:54
ubottumammuth: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:54
bitnumusHi, i'm having an issue with ubuntu 13.10, i'm getting a read-only file system issue randomly18:54
bitnumusany known bugs?18:55
snakeds_So i must install apache first?18:55
mammuthmerci18:55
snakeds_if i need apache i guess i'll wait for a moment18:55
TJ-MagBo: Ubuntu does correctly set-up the initrd image for cryptsetup... I used it extensively. However, you might have a syntax error in the crypttab that prevents the initramfs hooks from working as expected. To check that, I often do "update-initramfs -vuk all 2>&1 | tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then review the log afterwards, searching for "crypt"18:55
snakeds_I just put samba for work with 4 users here in my flathome18:55
hitsujiTMOlotuspsychje: ActionParsnip ... i don't have anything installed to take screen shots :(18:55
Jordan_Ubitnumus: That usually means that you have hardware problems. Check the disk's S.M.A.R.T status with gnome-disks.18:55
snakeds_It took me a 4 weeks18:55
MagBoTJ-: thank you so much, sir!18:55
mammuth /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc18:55
JokesOnYou77snakeds_: you don't have to.  It can run on its own without and you can password protect it.  It's more secure with a web server because you can use ssl18:56
Msido i need a firewall or antivirus on my ubuntu laptop18:56
bitnumusJordan_U, i checked, it says Disk OK. would this rule the drive out ?18:56
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lotuspsychje!info scrot | hitsujiTMO18:56
ubottuhitsujiTMO: scrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-13 (saucy), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB18:56
snakeds_Very thank you guys!18:56
Jordan_UMsi: You already have a firewall, and no you don't need an antivirus.18:56
bitnumusi don't want to go and buy a new HDD tomorrow (this is an SSD) if there is a new bug18:56
Msido i need to enable the firewall or does it work from its own18:56
snakeds_I'll go up for the install. My thanks for all the asnkwers18:56
brontosHey guys, I am running 13.10 but my window management seems to be missing.  minimize max, bar all that.  Do you know how to reset it?18:57
MagBosnakeds_: you should go for nginx+SSL with self-signed certificate, I would say. I haven't heard anything about Apache for quite a while and it's quite a whale.18:57
Jordan_Ubitnumus: Could you please pastebin the contents of /var/log/dmesg?18:57
Ziberwith PS1, is there a way to set my SSH client's titlebar? I'm using termional, and I'd like the tabs to be set to the name of the remote server I'm connecting to.18:57
snakeds_last question Ubuntu server does have a irc chat?18:57
Calinouthis channel?18:57
snakeds_omg18:58
snakeds_sorry18:58
bitnumushmm, Jordan_U the SMART utility says 'Disk OK' but at the top, there is 'Read/Write errors' > Normalised 94, Threshold 5018:58
JokesOnYou77snakeds_: are you asking if there's a channel, or if the server edition comes with an IRC client?18:58
bitnumusdoesn't that indicate its screwed ?18:58
Jordan_UZiber: You wouldn't use $PS1 for that, but it is possible to change the title of your terminal window/tab.18:58
Jordan_Ubitnumus: It may be that the drive is fine, but the cable connecting it is loose.18:59
snakeds_JokesOnYou77 If there's a channel just for ubuntu server, but i guess it is this one18:59
ZiberJordan_U: How would you recommend I do that then?18:59
bitnumusJordan_U, thats odd as i haven't touched it in ages!18:59
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: if your downloading 100gb / day from a vps/dedicated server via college/work and you don't want the it department asking why you're downloading xxxx.mpg then you want ssl. you can also get actual ssl certs for free from startssl.com18:59
bitnumusJordan_U, i'll shut it down and check cabling19:00
lotuspsychjesnakeds_: #ubuntu-server19:00
snakeds_HitSujiTMO but the server is in my home, and i guess the download i'll be done by here19:00
snakeds_will*19:00
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: you'll be fine without and web server so19:00
snakeds_\o/19:01
snakeds_Thanks dudes19:01
MagBohitsujiTMO: yeah, but snakeds_ will leak his password in coffeeshops et al.19:01
snakeds_shit...19:01
joosseecan anyone recommend a good replacement for ubuntu desktop? somethingpowerful for hands on administration?19:01
hitsujiTMOMagBo: but he'll not be portforwarding his router will he?19:02
ct529_joossee: try e17.19:02
TJ-joossee: administration? Use the command line19:02
ct529_joossee: as long as it is on ubuntu.19:02
lotuspsychjejoossee: just install administration packages19:02
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: do you plan on portforward the server so you can access it out of home?19:02
SerusCan I switch from Unity to Cinnamon on ubuntu?19:02
joosseect529_, looking that up now ty19:02
snakeds_I connect my server with SSH with one port i open-up in my router19:02
joosseelotuspsychje, those are for ubuntu desktop?19:03
MagBohitsujiTMO: hopefully.19:03
lotuspsychje!cinnamon | Serus19:03
lotuspsychjehmm19:03
Msiany tips on how to secure my laptop? always using a public wifi on my ubuntu laptop every day19:03
Seruslol19:03
snakeds_My plan was start the download in another place using my laptop or iphone and then get home my movie be here...19:03
ZiberMsi: openvpn19:03
Msino vpn just settings or etc19:03
lotuspsychjejoossee: what kind of administration are you looking for?19:03
MagBoMsi: use a non-persistant tails image. Dixi.19:03
MagBo!next19:04
lotuspsychje!info cinnamon | Serus19:04
ubottuSerus: cinnamon (source: cinnamon): Innovative and comfortable desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.4-2ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 604 kB, installed size 2464 kB19:04
snakeds_!next or !back Magbo? xD19:04
ubottusnakeds_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:04
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: theres a cli for transmission-daemon too, or you can go the route and add the web server + ssl cert and port forward the web server from the router19:04
TJ-snakeds_: If you're connecting to home over ssh, then use the transmission-cli client to start the sessions19:05
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Jordan_UZiber: It looks like Ubuntu does have bash configured with a terminal setting escape in $PS1, so modifying $PS1 would make sense. What is the output of "echo $PS1" for you?19:05
snakeds_sounds complicated for me hitsujiTMO.19:05
MagBosnakeds_: really simple way to access your stuff would be to ssh-tunnel. I made a simplistic autossh wrapper that does that — https://github.com/manpages/tunnel19:05
TJ-snakeds_: I use that to my server for having it mirror important/rare ISOs19:05
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: its actually really easy.19:05
lotuspsychjeSerus: install the package, logout ubuntu and re-login to cinnamon19:05
SerusAwesome19:05
snakeds_ok i'll install the transmission-daemon with the web UI19:06
snakeds_And after i think about some ssh-tunnel19:06
ZiberJordan_U: I have set it custom: [\u@\h] (\w) $19:06
hitsujiTMOsnakeds_: just do it one step at a time. get the daemon running. get the interface running. get the reverse proxy running. add the auth. add the ssl.19:06
Seruslotuspsychje, awesome, thanks19:06
snakeds_I guess in maybe 2 hours i'm done19:06
snakeds_I guess i'll have to come back here in the reverse proxy step19:07
lotuspsychjeSerus: same works for lubuntu-desktop, e17, openbox etc19:07
Corvetteare you allowed to ask offtopic questions in here19:07
snakeds_Thank you for all19:07
lotuspsychje!ot | Corvette19:07
ubottuCorvette: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:07
snakeds_hitsujiTMO-Mabo-TJ very thanks!!19:08
Seruslotuspsychje, I see, but I'm normal ubuntu :)19:08
SerusIs there a dev channel for ubuntu?19:08
SerusI'm on normal*19:08
MagBosnakeds_: just add your public key to your server, then put "forward yourserver 9050" in your .xinitrc (or whatever you use to bootstrap your X server at your laptop), do "sudo apt-get install proxychains" and now you can say "proxychains firefox" and open there http://localhost:$transmission_port and connect to your server's WebUI over encrypted channel, not running SSL.19:08
lotuspsychjeSerus: i think its #ubuntu-devel19:08
Serusok19:08
snakeds_I'll put this in some file MagBo Thank you19:09
lotuspsychjewell arent the users very polite tonight :p19:10
Hounddogwhy does linux hate me so much19:10
Jordan_UZiber: Try running this command, I expect it will set the title for five seconds and then change back but I am not at an Ubuntu machine to test: echo -ne "\033]0;SOME TITLE HERE\007"; sleep 519:10
Hounddogi cant even get gparted live to run now19:10
ZiberJordan_U: I'm also so timid about a bunch of control characters in a command like that.19:11
Jordan_UHounddog: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD?19:11
lotuspsychjeHounddog: welcome to ubuntu where it get easy :p19:11
Hounddognope19:11
Hounddogi cant boot any live stuff as seems19:11
lotuspsychje!details | Hounddog19:11
ubottuHounddog: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:11
Jordan_UZiber: Understandable. I got them from http://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title if that makes you feel more comfortable.19:12
Hounddogubottu ok, full details,, i plug in usb key start my comp select load ubuntu and nothing happens19:12
ubottuHounddog: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:12
lotuspsychjeHounddog: how did you create the usb?19:12
Hounddoglotuspsychje: does that information help you now?19:12
Hounddoglinuxlive19:12
Hounddogas always19:12
lotuspsychjeHounddog: ubuntu version you try to install?19:13
Hounddogi didnt mention instqlling19:13
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Hounddogi am trying to run the live version as i currently have a fucked up version of 12.0419:13
ct529_Hounddog: did you check that the system can boot in usb?19:13
Strider_afternoon everyone19:13
lotuspsychje!language | Hounddog19:14
ubottuHounddog: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.19:14
joosseelotuspsychje, honestly just something better than gnome. i like and know lxkd ...?19:14
Hounddogct529_:no havent checked but as i installed windows 8 and ubuntu previously through usb i would think it can19:14
joosseelotuspsychje, ideally i want to have a nice virtualization server...19:14
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licnepis it normal for "Building database of manual pages" to take REALLY long?19:14
BluesKajHounddog. , the "F" word isn't tolerated here19:16
ZiberJordan_U: Sorry, I'm trying to do too many things at once. I'll work on this later. Thanks for the link though.19:16
Jordan_UZiber: You're welcome.19:16
sam113101what's unity-system-compositor?19:18
fcgilooking for help with libfcgi I got this channel... is there anyone here who knows about using libfcgi?19:18
Strider_Is this the right channel to ask questions about debian-install preseed configurations on Ubuntu 13.10?19:19
ct529_Strider_: you can try .... :) ....19:20
sventonhi all, Is it possible to install ubuntu on a bootable usb stick? I can only find tutorials for live disk and vagrant/VM setup19:20
sventon?19:20
hitsujiTMOsam113101: xmir19:21
MonkeyDust!persistent | sventon19:21
ubottusventon: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent19:21
sam113101hitsujiTMO: it's going to give me a seizure19:22
sam113101it keeps flickering19:22
hitsujiTMOsam113101: remove it then19:23
Strider_My un-assisted Ubuntu install keeps dying during partman... the problem is that Ubuntu has mounted the /dev/sda drive at some point.19:23
hitsujiTMOsventon: yes you can. just don't do a uefi install19:24
hitsujiTMOStrider_: uefi setup?19:24
Strider_It will ask to unmount the drive (which works) but kinda not-the-point of an unassisted install.  The normal options in the preseed file to pre-answer the question is 'd-i partman/unmount_active boolean false' but that seems to be getting ingored19:25
Strider_hitsujiTMO: I don't think so, right now I am just testing the install on VirtualBox19:26
hitsujiTMOStrider_: if it was its because its looking for the efi system partition19:27
Strider_Here is a copy of my current partman configuration in preseed.cfg https://gist.github.com/brockers/732452519:27
Strider_hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to tell it NO to look for the efi system partition?19:27
Strider_s/NO/NOT/ ?19:28
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joosseehey guys can someone help me troubleshoot display issue? trying to get firemv 2250 to work in dual screen. i am making some progress after editing xorg.conf but ubuntu desktop keeps warning me on boot that "the system is running in low graphics mode" and then presents me 4 options... cant figure out what to do. ironically, warning sign is on both screens in highres graphical mode...?19:34
SourceSlayerHeyo,I can't run games on steam so I uninstalled it, but there still remians a steam file under ~/.local/share/steam that's using 15 gb, is it safe to uninstall it? And why wasn't it gone when I uninstalled steam?19:36
MonkeyDustSourceSlayer  tip: there's also #ubuntu-steam19:37
_joeywhat happened to 'software-properties' package?19:37
SourceSlayerMonkeyDust: Oh, thank you.19:37
PiciSourceSlayer: Because package uninstalls don't touch things in user's home directories.19:37
ClientAliveIs there an easy way to determine whether Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is booted in efi mode? What was that path to  *efi/vars  ??19:37
SourceSlayerPici: So I can just remove it, right?19:37
PiciSourceSlayer: It is likely your downloaded games, so thats up to you.19:38
PiciSourceSlayer: No harm will come if you delete it.19:38
fish__help19:38
k1l!details | fish__19:38
ubottufish__: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:38
sventonubottu: Are any of the methods on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent up to date. It is a lot of dead links and old repos19:39
ubottusventon: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:39
ClientAliveSo If there is content in that location does it definitively mean that my system is booted in efi mode?19:40
_joeywhat happened to 'software-properties' package?19:41
ClientAliveIn here ""/sys/firmware/efi/vars: Unknown command.19:41
_joeyI need to rconfigure installation of third party packages19:41
ClientAlivefor cripe sake!! Chanel doen't like my path (syntax issue)...19:41
gvoI'm trying to do a bridged network for an lxc container and it's not working. ifconfig reports a lxcbr0 at 10.0.3.1 but that's not the address of the container. I can't figure out where that ip is being set. Ubuntu lxc, ubuntu container.19:42
sventonhitsujiTMO: do you know about any up to date tutorials ? running OSX19:42
goldstarwith 13.10 I have a very strange issue with apache 2.4, the mime types for css are not being set. SO doing AddType text/css .css does not fix it. THe error is: Resource interpreted as Script but transferred with MIME type text/html19:42
trism_joey: it is still there, but that's the source package name, what are you looking for? the gui is in software-properties-gtk, add-apt-repository is in software-properties-common19:43
UrielVigilantshould i type this command to improve speed of my intel GMA 950 in ubuntu 13.10 ?  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:43
SerusHi19:46
SerusI installed ubuntu, but now my sound isn't working in windows19:46
SerusIs there a connection between them?19:46
maujhsnubottu I don't have two way communication?19:46
ubottumaujhsn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:46
pbxis this guide also suitable for prepping a usb key that will be used to boot a non-mac? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx19:47
pbxbecause i'm getting tired of "operation system not found"  :\19:48
wafflejockPBX should be fine19:48
pbxtx wafflejock19:48
Serusfound a work aroung19:48
Serusaround*19:48
Serusbrb back to ubuntu19:48
wafflejockPBX not finding bootable USB check bios.... On phone here19:48
UrielVigilantThis command is dangerous in ubuntu 13.10 with intel GMA 950  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:49
UrielVigilantHow i know if i have th eright driver ?19:49
pbxwafflejock - yeah. it's set up right and i've booted fine with good images, but have somehow made many bad ones too19:49
wafflejockPBX happens to me with USB sometimes too just stick to discs when I can19:50
pbxwafflejock - yeah. no optical on this machine tho19:51
snakeds_I'm back 1 hour after doing the transmission-daemon questions19:53
snakeds_I did configured by how-to tutorials, but didn't work19:54
snakeds_I don't know what to do...19:54
bekks!doesntwork | snakeds_19:54
ubottusnakeds_: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.19:54
tripelbupdate woeking. 12.04. had been complini.g re illegal repositories for almost a week.19:54
snakeds_Thank you bekks19:55
bekkstripelb: Pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" and provide the URL of your pastebin then.19:55
snakeds_The problem is: i cound't connect to see the transmission working19:55
tripelbi wish I could pause the applying changes so I could do something else.19:55
bekks!details | snakeds_19:55
ubottusnakeds_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."19:55
snakeds_he is "working" to the pc, but using v3m -v IPhere i found unknow url19:56
snakeds_i mean, he's actived...19:56
snakeds_i really have to reformule my sentenses19:56
Tr_OLLHello19:56
Tr_OLLI'm a troll.19:57
bekkssnakeds_: Who is "he"?, where did you find an unknown URL doing what, entering which where?19:57
ro9hi troll19:57
Tr_OLLro9: hello19:57
snakeds_Transmission is actived, trying 0.0.0.0:9091 = no sucess, 127.0.0.1:9091, routerip:9091 = no sucess, ipforserver:9091 didn't worked too19:58
snakeds_And thank you for the attention bekks19:58
bekkssnakeds_: "0.0.0.0:9091" is an invalid URL.19:58
bekkssnakeds_: Use the IP of your computer, and port 909119:59
Tr_OLLhow can i do my best trolling job but do not get kicked out of this channel?19:59
snakeds_i did, unknow url is the msg19:59
bekkssnakeds_: In which message? What do you do where entering what to get which message?20:00
snakeds_w3m -v 192.168.1.4:9091 -> unknow urli 192.168.1.4:909120:01
ikoniasnakeds_: telnet to the port - make sure it's listening on that ip / port20:01
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geirhasnakeds_: You're missing the first part of the uri. http://20:05
joosseeany masters of xorg.conf in here?20:05
snakeds_gerha: lol it worked20:05
bekks!anyone | joossee20:05
ubottujoossee: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:05
geirhaIf you want to control transmission via a terminal emulator, consider using transmission-remote (command part of transmission) or transmission-remote-cli (third-party curses client)20:07
StrangeNoisesdoes anyone know the list of keywords recognised by ubottu for mild chastisement purposes? ;-)20:07
joosseeDear #ubuntu, I am getting a parsing error in xorg on boot "SubSection" is not e problema valid keyword in this section. googled it and syntax all looks legit. Cant figure out th20:08
ikoniajoossee: I'd suggest pastebinning your xorg.conf file20:08
spartacurseI changed my display driver from fglrx to x and now I won't reach the login screen. Could anyone help?20:09
geirhaStrangeNoises: /msg ubottu !factoids20:09
brontosI have 13.10 installed and my title bar is no longer there and I am unable to resize windows.  Do you guys know how to reset/fix this?20:09
joosseeikonia, its basically just the section mentioned here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35968/multi-screen-problems-virtual-size-does-not-fit-available-size20:09
ikoniajoossee: please pastebin the whole file20:09
joosseeikonia, gimme 1 min will do20:10
jonneburgerif i have application, which starts from terminal, can i make some quick-launch file wich would run terminal line when clicked?20:12
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jonneburgerwhich*20:13
thekkidWhat's the best way to give my upstart script and user the ability to write to a log file in /var/log/20:13
ikoniathekkid: just set the permissions20:14
thekkidOn the log file?20:14
ikoniathekkid: well the directory to create the log file, and then the log file to write to it20:14
thekkidikonia: Thanks20:14
siwicaI just got a new Laptop (Lenovo, 64 bit, nvidea gpu, freedos operating system). When inserting my ubuntu 13.10 live cd I can select to try ubuntu or install it, but whatever option I choose the screen turns black and there is no way for me to proceed. Any hints?20:15
auronandace!nomodeset | siwica20:16
ubottusiwica: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:16
joosseeikonia, http://pastebin.com/Qte1ZfHT20:16
jonneburgerhow can i get terminal to show content of folder where it currently is?20:17
ikoniajoossee: who set that up, Display is not a valid subsection,20:17
bekksjonneburger: "ls"20:17
jonneburgerokay, thanks20:18
joosseeikonia, i found it on a ubuntu forum? in regards to getting dual displays to work?20:18
ikoniajoossee: actually is is valid, as a subsection, but I don't think you can just use it like that on it's own20:18
joosseeikonia, do i have to incluide as part of inputsection or something like that?20:19
ikoniajoossee: it's normally the subsection to a section20:19
samuelqHi, I installed 13.10 with LVM and an encrypted root (not just home directory) and at boot I cannot enter my password. The keyboard doesn't seem to recognize input. This is only for the crypt init page. The keyboard works fine in the live-CD and selecting the boot prompt. Any ideas?20:19
ikoniaeg: Section "Display" could contain the subsection, but you can't have the subsection on it's own20:19
samuelqFyi, it's a wireless USB keyboard though I had the same issue with a cabled USB keyboard as well.20:19
joosseeikonia, the "Screen" section perhaps?20:20
ikoniajoossee: it's valid for a few sections20:20
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: can you try with legacy usb option in bios20:20
joosseeikonia, can i revert xorg 7.0 instead of whatever 12.04 uses?20:21
samuelqhitsujiTMO: I tried that as well. It's the same whether legacy USB is "enabled" or "disabled" in the BIOS20:21
ikoniajoossee: no, you need to use the version that comes with the distro20:21
joosseeikonia, ok... so do you know how i can structure this so it doesnt generate a parsing error? so i need to next it in a Screen and Monito section?20:22
samuelqThough with legacy disabled I can't even select Ubuntu from the boot menu. With it enabled (the default on my system) I can get past the boot menu and even enter modify the boot menu (the emacs-like window) ... it's only the crypt password entry that doesn't work20:22
Frank81can some one help me20:22
ikoniajoossee: you need to put it in a valid section.20:22
joosseeikonia, sorry.. nest it in a Screen and Monitor section20:22
Frank81since i upgraded to 13.10 my usb keyboard don't works any more on boot20:22
joosseeikonia, ok i will try that now20:22
samuelqFrank81: I think I'm having the same issue20:22
Frank81any ideas how i could fix that ? it only works with the old 3.8 kernel image20:23
samuelqI just did a fresh install and my USB keyboard doesn't work for entering the crypt password20:23
Frank81samuelq maybe you got the same i have it since half a year20:23
Frank81samuelq then you got same issu right20:23
Frank81you got a logitech keyboard?20:24
Frank81do you know what motherboard you got ?20:24
samuelqFrank81: Yes I think so. I've never had issues like this before though I've never had a fully encrypted LVM volume as my root partition. Only used encrypted home directories before. I really like this better (if it actually works!)20:24
Frank81coz i checked the ini ram disk and the usb drivers get loaded i think its a complet usb stack problem20:24
samuelqFrank81: Hang on I'll get the model number ...20:24
Frank81i am so glad that i found you samuelq coz together we can make a bug submission :D i alone couldnt do that since i cant reproduce the error to verfiy it i have no secund pc with same config20:26
samuelqFrank81: It's a Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H20:26
Frank81ya20:26
Frank81jackpot20:26
Frank81we got the problem20:26
samuelqLol ... well happy to help20:27
Frank81i have a Gigabyte Mainboard too20:27
samuelqNice!20:27
samuelqWell nice that we can actually figure out the cause at least!20:27
bekksI dont think your problems are hardware related at all.20:27
Frank81bekks nope but the bug is related to the mainboard or chipset some how20:27
bekksYou both have harddisks, CPU, RAM, too. :P20:27
bekksFrank81: I dont think so.20:27
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Frank81Ok  Then tell me why does it work with kernel 3.8 and not with 3.8 +20:28
bekksFrank81: Basically, you have no proof for that assumption.20:28
Frank81if all drivers got loaded?20:28
samuelqIs it possible that a kernel moduel for USB keyboard support isn't loaded?  I also found this regarding a similar issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/106637620:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 1066376 in base-installer (Ubuntu Precise) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with panda and encrypted partitions ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:28
supercom32When I used "windows_package" to do an install using Chef, I noted it leaves the install package on your machine. If you run the recipe a second time, it fails (I assume because it cannot clobber the existing install file)? Anyone have experience with this?20:28
bekksFrank81: I know several people using encrypted setup with kernels > 3.820:28
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: might be an old bug re-occuring https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/22973220:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 229732 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "USB Keyboard drivers not loaded in initramfs" [Low,Fix released]20:28
bekksFrank81: So that doesnt qualify it to be a "gigabyte hardware releated issue".20:29
Frank81samuelq thats not the problem i checked the init initram disk the drivers are in and even get loaded20:29
Frank81the problem is even more tricky the keyboard works in grub befor drivers get loaded ^^20:30
samuelqFrank81: Yes same here. Keyboard is fine pre-boot, in grub, and after boot (live CD)20:30
Frank81there is a problem with the USB Implamentation it self some of the core coders a girl don't remember the name whanted to fix it befor some month20:30
Frank81and fixed her issus but still don't works for me20:30
Frank81ya for any reason it don't uses bios method to access the keyboard20:31
Frank81there are tips to disable nativ USB Support and then it should work but it dosn't20:31
samuelqWhen I tried that I couldn't use my keyboard in grub either20:31
Frank81right that20:31
Frank81exactly same here and i got this problem as soon as kernel got newer as 3.820:32
Frank81i even installed the pre versions of 13.1020:32
Frank81but couldn't submit a bug since all always say i can't verify it20:32
Frank81now i can with you20:33
Frank81and you even did fresh install20:33
david38400Can anyone help please. I have just changed from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 12, but I need to feel my way around. I use Thunderbird and can't find any addresses. Is there any way I can get access to my old addresses or have I lost them forrever?20:33
samuelqYes this is a fresh 13.10 install as of a few hours ago.20:33
Frank81submit a bug report20:33
Frank81on lunchpad20:33
Frank81and tell me link i verfiy it20:33
bean__david38400: is this a fresh install?20:33
joosseeikonia, http://pastebin.com/Qte1ZfHT UPDATED20:33
david38400Complete fresh20:34
jeff__i use cinnamon 2.0 as my desktop , love it!20:34
david38400sorry completely fresh20:34
jeff__using ubuntu 13.1020:34
bean__david38400: so your data that thunderbird had on your old install is gone then, no?20:34
david38400It seems that way...... yes20:34
hitsujiTMOare ye able to chroot in and run an apt-get upgrade incase the affect package has already been fixed?20:35
david38400bean__ Can you help at all?20:35
hitsujiTMOFrank81: samuelq ^^20:35
bean__david38400: I'd say you're probably out of luck there unless you have a backup. They were likely stored locally in thunderbird.20:35
samuelqWait what?20:35
rustuptwisti am using a Mac but I want to create a bootable USB stick for a windows PC laptop. the OSX usb instructions seem off. What is the best way to achieve what I am wanting?20:35
samuelqFrank81 hitsujiTMO: Should I create the launchpad issue?20:36
david38400bean__ A shame, I will have to check on Thunderbird web...... Thanks a lot20:36
bekksrustuptwist: do you use ubuntu?20:36
joosseerustuptwist, why are you here?20:36
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: can you try and chroot in first and ensure all packages are up to date. there has already been a fix released for a similar issue20:37
HecterHi! can you give me a headstart on finding what i miss, i am following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-0420:37
adamkjoossee: You need to put that Display SubSection inside a Screen Section.20:37
rustuptwistbekks:  not currently. I am planning to put it on a Compaq laptop. I have used in the past. I am here to get help, info, empowerment.20:37
Frank81hitsujiTMO: ya i am in no problem i simply boot old kernel20:37
rustuptwistjoossee:  ^^20:37
Frank81samuelq: make the bug20:37
samuelqhitsujiTMO: It's a fresh install of 13.10  ... you want me to boot via the live CD again and try to update the packages?20:37
jamescarrW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/r-lts-backport/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found20:37
jamescarrdid it change?20:37
hitsujiTMOFrank81: and your's is completely uptodate?20:37
Frank81since month its updated to the edge20:38
HassanJCan anyone help, please?20:38
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: please, there was an update to intramfs-tools after the cd release for a similar issue20:38
bekksHecter: whats the exact issue?20:38
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Okay I'll try updating it first then ...20:38
foghshoI have a (hopefully) quick question. I have 3x Apple Xserve 2,2. They have OSX Server on them, and I want to install Ubuntu... however I am told that there is an EFI Boot issue. Just wondering if anyone has any idea on what I'm talking about, and how to move forward with the installs20:38
joosseeadamk, i did? does the pastebin not reflect that?20:38
adamkjoossee: The xorg.conf file you pasted is only three lines long...20:39
joosseeoh my bad20:39
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Maybe a stupid question ... what would be the easiest way to do that? Boot into the live-CD and chroot to the encrypted fresh install?20:39
Frank81samuelq: no need since month i update and reboot always when changes to he kernel or init happen20:39
Frank81nothing changed20:39
HassanJI have a WD external HDD and when I plug it, it doesn't get detected by Ubuntu. How can I browse the disk content?20:39
joosseeadamk, ikonia http://pastebin.com/wxFPYFVH20:39
Hecterbekks : im trying to use my SSH access to allow ftp uploads for /var/www20:39
HassanJThe HDD has in-built driver but it's for windows, of course.20:39
bekksHecter: and whats the exact issue?20:40
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: would seem to be ... i don't use encryption so i don't know whats invovled in mounting the encrypted partition20:40
adamkjoossee: I *believe* every Screen section needs at least an Identifier.20:40
joosseeadamk, like monitor-id ?20:40
joosseesamuelq, i can help you in a few mins probably20:40
MonkeyDustadamk  screen -S [name]20:41
samuelqFrank81: It shouldn't take too long to test. Either way I think i'll file a bug as if this is really the fix they need a new live install CD. This is a show stopper for anybody using encrypted root partitions.20:41
adamkMonkeyDust: What?20:41
adamkjoossee: Just some generic identifier.  Can be anything, really.20:41
Hecterwhen i try to log in im getting : ERROR:>   [11/6/2013 4:30:20 AM] Control connection closed.20:41
adamkjoossee: And I'm not even completely sure it's necessary now.  It certainly was a while ago.20:41
Frank81samuelq:  do so i ll watch joossee so he cant run away and he helps us the n20:41
joosseeadamk, iam looking at the xorg documentation but i am not clear ongeneric identifier?20:41
adamkjoossee: Give it a name.  Any name.20:42
adamkIdentifier "SomeName"20:42
bekksHecter: then your overall setup is wrong. Most likely a firewall is blocking port 20, e.g.20:42
joosseeadamk just after the screen section declaration?20:42
ShadowStriderCan someone help me with KDE problem?20:42
adamkjoossee: Yep.20:43
ShadowStriderI can't log in to kde because I messed up with amd driver update20:43
Hecterbekks : i will look into solving the firewall, im following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-0420:43
bekksHecter: Basically forget that guide.20:43
Hecteryou have a better guide?20:43
foghshoAnyone have experience with installing to a mac machine? I'm concerned with the EFI20:44
adamkShadowStrider: So the problem isn't really with KDE, but with your driver?20:44
ShadowStrideryeah I think so20:44
bekksHecter: you dont need a guid for changing five well documented options in the config file.20:44
ShadowStriderand my wlan is not working when I'm not logged in KDE20:44
adamkShadowStrider: Does your X server just not start up?20:45
ShadowStriderno20:45
ShadowStriderstartx20:45
bekksShadowStrider: No. Dont use startx.20:45
ShadowStriderwhat then?20:45
joosseesamuelq, `what problem are you having?20:45
adamkShadowStrider: We'll have to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file that is generated after you boot up.20:46
Hecterbekks : yeah but the problem is, im a newbie of newbies. i dont know where to look for  the config file. :/20:46
ShadowStriderand how do I recover that file?20:46
bekksShadowStrider: start your desktop environment, like sudo service lightdm start20:46
kgalahassawhy do not  command "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"  work on my ubuntu 12.1020:46
bekksHecter: /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf20:46
ShadowStridersudo service lightdm start20:46
ShadowStriderok20:46
Hecterbekks : copy that :)20:47
bekkskgalahassa: We dont know? Tell us which error you get.20:47
ShadowStriderWill do20:47
ShadowStriderbe back soon --->20:47
samuelqjoossee: At boot I cannot enter the password for my root partition. The keyboard doesn't work.20:48
Frank81Joossee Samuelq and me have the same problem NO USB Keyboard works after grube since Ubuntu Kernel Newer then 3.820:48
joosseesamuelq, o...k. you have an unencrypted boot partition yes?20:48
samuelqjoossee: USB keyboard ... Works fine pre-boot, grub, and live CD. Only doesn't work when entering the root partition decryption key.20:48
Frank81the usb hid driver get loaded20:48
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joosseesamuelq, ok so everything works fine up until "Enter passphrase: "?20:48
Frank81we both have full encrypted LVM20:48
samuelqjoossee: Yes boot is unencrypted (I'm assuming!), the root is encrypted.20:48
samuelqjoossee: Yes.20:49
Frank81joossee thats right20:49
Frank81and even after boot all works right20:49
samuelqFyi, fresh install of 13.10 and I just checked the "Encrypt the entier disk ..." checkbox20:49
kgalahassabekks, ok, see: http://pastebin.com/sCr2jq3A20:49
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: Frank81 actually looking again, the fix still hasn't been pushed through20:49
samuelqhitsujiTMO: :(20:49
Frank81where is it20:49
Frank81i patch my self20:49
joosseesamuelq, and youve tried just entering the correct passphrase and hitting enter at the prompt?20:49
Frank81i only need to know what is happening20:50
bekkskgalahassa: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup20:50
samuelqIt doesn't accept any keyboard input.20:50
Frank81joossee even the keyboard led's don't works and even strg + alt + entf20:50
joosseecuz i am using that exact same system right now with usb keyboard and works fine. ive never had a problem with this on any bootsticks either20:50
Frank81don't works20:50
samuelqjoossee: ^ ... I tried with two USB keyboards. One wireless and one cabled.20:50
Frank81so entering key brings nothing20:50
Frank81my is cabled too20:50
kgalahassabekks, it does'nt work.20:50
joosseeok what kind of screen are you in when entering the passphrase?20:50
joosseelike graphical ornomodeset or what?20:51
samuelqI would have tried a PS2 keyboard but I don't have one anymore20:51
bekkskgalahassa: then pastebin the entire output of that command please20:51
Frank81the same screen a alwys the normal enter passpharse screen20:51
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: Frank81: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/0.103ubuntu1.120:51
samuelqI forget the exact text but it's a black boot screen and it asks for the password to decrypt the partition. It's after grub.20:51
Frank81the blue one and even if i got directly into the console20:51
Frank81it works20:51
Frank81as in screen so the usb driver has a problem20:51
joosseesamuelq, huh that weird. you installed from a LiveCD?20:52
samuelqjoossee: Yes 13.10 live CD20:52
DJJeffdoes anyone know what happen to the ubuntu version of inssider20:52
samuelqI just booted into the live CD fine and am able to decrypt/access the root partition. I just can't enter the password at boot.20:52
bekksDJJeff: Whats that?20:52
kgalahassabekks, ok see this : http://pastebin.com/KZ7ELksv20:53
DJJeffor have a suggestion for an alt program like (inssider, netstumbler)20:53
joosseesamuelq, hrmmm... you using a US intl keyboard in which USB port?20:53
Frank81Urgency:20:53
Frank81    Low Urgency20:53
samuelqjoossee: Yes wireless USB Microsoft comfort keyboard 500020:53
bekkskgalahassa: I doubt thats the entire output.20:53
Frank81lol that is urgs20:53
Frank81i should shoot the person who rated that as not urgent20:54
joosseeikonia, adamk new parsing error in xorg "virtual keyword must be followed by height and width value"20:54
Frank81since half a year20:54
kgalahassabekks, but this is the full output20:54
samuelqI tried it with a cabled/wired USB keyboard as well though exact same results.20:54
Frank81samuelq20:54
hitsujiTMOthe actual bug listing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/123819420:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 1238194 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Saucy) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with encrypted partitions ubuntu 13.10 saucy" [Critical,Fix committed]20:54
Frank81you need to add the ohci_pci driver20:54
kgalahassabekks, why are not you sure?20:55
joosseesamuelq, im unlcear on something: these encrypted volumes were made in what exactly? You booted the livecd then made the encrypted volumes then installed from livecd?20:55
Frank81maybe coz the usb gets routed in our case over the pci20:55
kgalahassabekks, is there any problem with my system?20:55
joossee<-- has never installed from a livecd20:55
joosseeever.20:55
bekkskgalahassa: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep virtual" and "lsb_release -a; uname -a" please.20:55
Frank81samuelq: 21:54:35 - hitsujiTMO: […] he actual bug listing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/123819420:55
Frank8121:54:36 - Pancakez_ has left the room (Quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).20:55
ubottuUbuntu bug 1238194 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu Saucy) "keyboard doesn't work to enter password with encrypted partitions ubuntu 13.10 saucy" [Critical,Fix committed]20:55
samuelqjoossee: I forget the exact name for it but it's a checkbox in the live CD install process that asks if you want to encrypt the root partition (vs just your home directory). I believe it's a LUKS partition20:55
Frank81download and apply that20:55
ShadowStriderHey I tried sudo service lightdm startbut it said unknow service20:56
samuelqFrank81: Can I just add the module at boot for now?20:56
hitsujiTMOseems its missing the usb host driver required for your chipsets20:56
ShadowStriderany ideas how to proceed?20:57
Frank81samuelq right that20:57
Frank81you need to add it to the intiram disk20:57
Frank81tutorials are around20:57
ShadowStriderAnd btw I've Kxstudio 64 bit 12.04.3 installed20:57
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Ok ... this is progress now20:57
bekksShadowStrider: You have to install lightdm first...20:57
kgalahassabekks, ok, a minute please20:58
Frank81i will probally wait till the commited fix is aviable20:58
joosseesamuelq, ok my only suggestion is to install from an actuall install CD and do the paritioning mnually or barring that using guided.20:58
joosseegood luck20:58
ShadowStriderbut my internet connection doesn't work if I'm not on KDE20:58
Frank81and update then but good to know that some one has done something20:58
Frank81after half a year20:58
ShadowStriderI can't locate eg www.google.com20:58
bekksShadowStrider: And I strongly doubt kxstudio is supported in here.20:58
Frank81today is a good day20:58
ShadowStrideryeah but it's ubuntu based20:58
samuelqjoossee: Yeah I don't think that'll work as the end result would be the same. The encyrpted disk won't be able to be decrypted at boot because of the missing USB support. Looks like hitsujiTMO has a possible fix though.20:58
bekksShadowStrider: Doesnt matter, it isnt supported in here.20:59
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: chroot to the drive, edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules      add:     ohci_pci       run: update-initramfs -u   and you should be ok hopefully20:59
ShadowStriderSo what should I do?20:59
bekksShadowStrider: It isnt an official derivative.20:59
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bekksShadowStrider: you should contact the kxstudio support.20:59
samuelqFrank81 hitsujiTMO: Anything special for the chroot  (like making sure /dev etc are avail) or vanilla "chroot ." is fine?20:59
Hecterbekks : this made the fix -> chown root:root /home/username20:59
Hecter@_@20:59
ShadowStridereh I've tried but I don't seem to get any help21:00
bekksHecter: Thats the worst idea ever.21:00
bekksHecter: Actually, that breaks things.21:00
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: not sure what's needed exactly for initramfs21:00
Frank81samuel q21:00
Frank81wait short21:00
Frank81i do that and reboot21:00
Frank81and after that you see if it works or not21:00
Frank81wait 2 min21:00
FloodBot1Frank81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:00
samuelqOk I'll try it ... it's a fresh install so no issue if I break something21:01
samuelqbrb21:01
Frank81update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-13-generic21:01
Frank81soon we will know it21:01
MonkeyDustHecter  can you still work as non-root, now?21:01
Hecterbekks : "Because of a recent vsftpd upgrade, vsftpd is "refusing to run with writable root inside chroot" -> so its a bad guide21:01
kgalahassabekks, ok see: http://pastebin.com/WQwjsjtx21:01
ShadowStriderIs there other options than contacting kxstudio supoort?21:01
joosseeWOOOOHHOOOO thanks #ubuntu got my firemv 2260 working with both monitors!! kudos!21:02
bekksHecter: Thats not a bad guide. We told it to you yesterday already, that it isnt possible.21:02
bekksShadowStrider: We dont know.21:02
joosseethanks to adamk and ikonia andall others21:02
bekksShadowStrider: And no, there arent other options. It is their spin off, it is their support.21:02
joosseeits been a three day odyssey and i am changed man. thank you and goodnight!21:02
bekksShadowStrider: You could just use Ubuntu.21:02
ShadowStriderwell21:03
ShadowStriderUninstall that and then install kxstudio on top of ubuntu?21:03
bekksShadowStrider: We dont support kxstudio.21:03
bekksShadowStrider: Thats a distro, not an addon.21:03
superjoeI have a fresh installation of saucy. I compiled and installed some stuff which went into /usr/local/lib and then tried to run a program which depends on that library and I get "cannot open shared library"21:03
superjoewhy is this? I thought /usr/local/lib was the correct place to put compiled libraries?21:04
ShadowStriderIt's possible to install on top of the ubuntu when installing all the binaries21:05
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TheyTookErJobsHey are any adjustments required to have ubuntu process 8 core processors? my top shows all three load averages around 1.0 and with an 8 core 4.0 with 24 gigs of ram it should be much lower ;)21:06
bekksShadowStrider: That5s your choice. Every problem arising from doing so is unsupported in here.21:07
TJ-TheyTookErJobs: It depends whether one or more processes may be hogging cores21:07
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ShadowStridereh going with clean reinstall21:07
ShadowStriderproblem solved21:07
ShadowStrideralmost21:07
ShadowStrider:D21:07
TheyTookErJobshrm, alright. I've gotta go but when I come back I will troubleshoot this :)21:07
TJ-superjoe: use "ldd $BINARY" to find out which libraries the exectuable is linked to21:08
hitsujiTMOTheyTookErJobs: what speed is each core running at? are they hitting 100% while being underclocked by anychance?21:09
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superjoeTJ-, ok I did and everything looks fine: https://gist.github.com/superjoe30/732636921:10
superjoewait, wtf, it works now21:11
TJ-superjoe: Is there another library the binary depends upon, too? "ldd $BINARY" will show any missing links21:11
superjoethe hell? I didn't change anything21:11
wilee-nileesuperjoe, This is a world wide channel crossing cultural, ethnic, age lines please keep the language appropriate.21:13
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mercutiois anyone here using ubuntu trusty?21:13
wilee-nileewere not interested in you emotions honestly21:13
ianorlin!anyone21:14
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.21:14
mercutiomy X broke and i had to downgrade.21:14
hitsujiTMOmercutio: #ubuntu+121:14
mercutioheh oops :)21:14
mercutioerr i just had to downgrade the X package21:14
HaveFantasyernet.org21:14
mercutiobut it segfaults when trying to start21:15
hitsujiTMOHaveFantasy: this is not a place for advertising!21:15
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samuelqhitsujiTMO: Crap I screwed up something trying to add the module in the chroot21:15
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: in what way? how did you screw up?21:16
mercutiook so probably no-one using trusty with X :)21:16
hitsujiTMOmercutio: try #ubuntu+121:16
mercutiowhat's #ubuntu+1?21:16
wilee-nileemercutio, 14.04? I am21:16
foghshoAnyone have experience with installing to a mac machine? I'm concerned with the fact that Macs run EFI (no BIOS) and was curious about it21:17
samuelqNot sure exactly but I don't think I properly created the initrd ... it's a clean install so if i can't fix it'm just going to reinstall and try again21:17
mercutioohh21:17
hitsujiTMOmercutio: #ubuntu+1 is for the beta21:17
samuelqhitsujiTMO: ^^21:17
mercutiothanks21:17
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: are you still in the chroot?21:18
samuelqhitsujiTMO: No I rebooted and it didn't boot. I just restarted into the live CD again.21:18
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: can you remember the exact commands you did?21:18
supNowcould use some help and am hoping not to be tossed around to other channels due to the nature of the issue. I'm getting an issue when trying to import a file to sql on ubuntu server. It's suggesting that it might be file size setting in the php.ini. I went ahead and ajusted anything related to the max file size and still get the same error. The php.ini file I edited was found in etc/php5/apache2 is that the one I should edit or does ubuntu server 13.10 have21:19
supNowit located somewhere else?21:19
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Yes. 1) I mounted the encrypted partition (worked). 2) Mounted /boot to it (worked). 3) Added ochi_pci to the module list 4) Ran update-initramfs -u21:19
daftykinssupNow: did you restart the daemons after the config file change?21:19
supNowthe sql file is only 5.4m21:19
andrebhi all21:20
supNowdaftykins, I ended up rebooting the entire system, would that do it?21:20
daftykinssupNow: so what was the *actual* error? rather than what it suggested21:20
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: try doing a full mount set for the chroot.   mount /dev /sys /proc and /dev/pts21:21
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Oh yeah I did /dev, /sys, and /proc. I didn't do /dev/pts though21:21
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Let me try it again with all four. Hang on21:22
hitsujiTMOi've found i've needed /dev/pts with uefi, can't remember exactly what for21:22
andrebquestion : i am trying to mount a ntfs share from one of my windows box ... i am using this command "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=test,dir_mode=0775,gid=1005 //192.168.10.1/backups /media/winshare" .... I created a group call cifshares and added my user to it.... i run the command it prompts for the password i enter it..and it mounts the drive.,... but my user cant write to the share... if21:22
andrebi use the same command and do uid=1000 and remove gid=1005 .. the user can write... any ideas what i am doign wrong ?21:22
supNowdaftykins, let me try again so I can pull up the exact error21:22
hitsujiTMOandreb add rw to the options21:23
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Should I include my /boot mounted as well?21:24
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: if its a seperate mount then yeah21:24
kgalahassabekks, ok see: http://pastebin.com/WQwjsjtx21:24
andrebhitsujiTmo : it still doesnt work21:24
hitsujiTMOandreb does it work for other users?21:25
andrebone sec21:25
bekkskgalahassa: Uninstall the ubuntu packages for virtualbox and install the latest official packages from the official vbox website.21:25
andrebhitsuj : it works for the other user... and not mines... they are both in the same group :(21:27
hitsujiTMOandreb what os is the other user using?21:28
andrebhitsu : its a windows 7 box21:29
hitsujiTMOandreb: is the account on a domain?21:29
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Ok I re-ran update-initramfs but I'm getting an error message too21:29
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: whats the error?21:29
samuelqI can't copy paste (different computer) but it's approx: Invalid line in /etc/cryptab ... LUKS- ....21:30
andrebhitsuj : the account that is able to write to the share isnt on the domain.. the account that cant write is on the domain21:30
samuelqI can get the full message if you'd like ... will take a minute to type it (across the room)21:30
hitsujiTMOandreb: in that case you're missing the domain= option21:31
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Actually I think it's just a warning21:31
samuelqhitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/33295021:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 332950 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu Lucid) "Misleading "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab - "" [Low,Triaged]21:31
samuelqhitsujiTMO: I'm going to try rebooting again21:31
hitsujiTMOif it still doesn't work let me know, there's one modification to try21:32
andrebhitsujitmo : still no luck... the user thats not on the domain can write.. and the other user cant21:34
hitsujiTMOandreb: anything in the logs in the server give any indication?21:35
andrebhrm..21:37
Silvio-Hey guys i have a question: http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/29290/ One of my sites was just hit with this, i updated my php version but i do not fully understand if im still vulnerable?21:37
samuelqhitsujiTMO: Okay yeah I must have screwed something up before because now it won't boot. It's complaining lvm volume does not exist21:38
samuelqhitsujiTMO: I think I'm just going to reinstall everything21:39
hitsujiTMOsamuelq: ach ... maybe that wasn't a warning afterall21:39
Silvio-this is my current PHP version: PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.21 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep  4 2013 19:13:13) and its below 5.3.12 which that exploit db says is vuln, does that mean my current php is also bad?21:39
MonkeyDustSilvio-  is that ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess21:39
samuelqhitsujiTMO: lol ... now he tells me! ;-)21:39
RorySilvio-: I recommend all sysadmins read the first answer here http://serverfault.com/questions/218005/how-do-i-deal-with-a-compromised-server21:39
samuelqno worries ... it's a new install so nothing lost21:39
andrebhitsujitmo : hrm.. but all the other users in teh group can.. i will double check to ensure my user is there.. thanks for all the help21:41
abradleyautofs nfs share not mounting. auto.master: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367032/21:41
abradleyauto.nfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367033/21:41
abradley /mnt/nfs/proxmox exists locally already21:42
abradleywhen autofs starts /proxmox disappears21:42
ianmac1I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?21:43
joosseeis there a trick for getting your network card into 5ghz?21:43
histojoossee: all devices on the network need to be N based or whatever21:44
joosseehisto, ya on the network side everything is fine. im connected to 5ghz now21:45
joosseehisto, but network manager not seeing 5ghz network?21:45
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hackujinI'm trying to do a release-upgrade on 12.04.3 but it's saying no new release found21:46
daftykinshackujin: there's no new LTS version right now.21:46
auronandacehackujin: by default it would look for the next lts (14.04 isn't released yet)21:47
hackujinI also edited /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set to normal but that upgrade fails21:47
WobbleHeadDollGreetings everybody.21:47
hackujinI'd like to get it to 13.10 if possible21:47
wilee-nileehackujin, wait till 14.04 is out for the lts21:47
hackujinis it impossible to upgrade to 13.10 ?21:48
hitsujiTMOhackujin: getting to 13.10 involves 3 upgrades21:48
WobbleHeadDollHas anybody had any luck getting ATI Legacy drivers to work on XServer 1.13?21:48
Calinouyou need to do 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04 then 13.04 then 13.10 :)21:48
Calinoulengthy, but possible21:48
wilee-nileehackujin, dual boot 13.10 transfer your stuff, and get it setup how yo like.21:48
hackujinit's a server :/21:49
hitsujiTMOWobbleHeadDoll: what kernel do you have?21:49
hitsujiTMOWobbleHeadDoll: uname -r21:49
hackujinso how do i make it detect 12.10 update?21:49
Calinouor stay on 12.0421:49
geirhahackujin: Any reason you can't wait for 14.04?21:49
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Calinounon-LTS is less useful on a server :P21:50
hackujintrying to install libapache2-mod-fastcgi21:50
WobbleHeadDolluname -r yields 3.8.0-32-generic.21:50
hackujinbut I have a custom apache 2.4 installed and it's not working with it21:50
hackujinbut on another 13.10 server it works fine21:50
hitsujiTMOWobbleHeadDoll: ati legacy targets 2.6 and wont build on 3.821:50
LeMikeSimple problem and I always forget: While editing files in /var/www with my IDE they all become user and group me:me . So just +r for www-data. How do I accomplish that www-data can +rwx at any time?21:50
WobbleHeadDollHow would I be able to get drivers for my ATI Mobility Radeon HD4xxx series card then?21:51
hackujin libapache2-mod-fastcgi : Depends: apache2.2-common (>= 2.2.4) but it is not going to be installed21:51
Frank81Hi21:52
Frank81samuelq: all works21:52
WobbleHeadDollI heard it may also be because the XServer is 1.13 and the legacy drivers only support XServer 1.12.21:52
Frank81i am so happy more then happy after more then 6 month i have now the new kernel and all works with usb21:52
hackujinProblem is I'm using this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/apache2 for apache 2.4.x21:52
hackujinYou guys know of any way to fix the conflict?21:53
samuelqFrank81: Everything worked?21:53
Frank81hitsujiTMO: thx you 100 times for posting this bug link it worked 100% well i am so happy if you need anything coding related add me ask me i can help you probally21:53
Frank81samuelq: all like a charm now21:53
samuelqCan you share exactly what you did for chroot/update? I tried it an bonked my install :/21:53
Frank81adding the ohci_pci driver is 100% the problem21:53
hitsujiTMOseems last supported version that can run that card is 12.04 (not 12.04.2 or 12.04.3)21:53
hitsujiTMOWobbleHeadDoll: ^21:54
Frank81i don't needed to chroot into my install i got a old working 3.8 kernel i booted it and it worked21:54
Frank81but since your is a fresh install i give you now one big advice21:54
WobbleHeadDollIs it possible to downgrade my 12.04.3 LTS 64-Bit installing to a 12.04 installation without having to go through the process of downloading and reinstalling the entire OS?21:54
Frank81reinstall without LVM21:54
samuelqFrank81: lol21:54
hitsujiTMO!yay | Frank81 unfortunately didn't go so smoothly for samuelq21:54
ubottuFrank81 unfortunately didn't go so smoothly for samuelq: Glad you made it! :-)21:54
Frank81it makes only problems and if you realy whant some parts un encrypted encrypt em21:55
Frank81but i can tell you sha1 is cracked allready21:55
hitsujiTMOWobbleHeadDoll: not sure tbh, it's not something i've ever tried21:55
Frank81and you don't need the NSA for that since people like me have amazon accounts the encryption is not worth it21:55
WobbleHeadDollOk, thank you hitsujiTMO. Perhaps some research on Google might be able to provide me with answers. Thank you for all your help!21:55
Frank81there are realy effectiv matching attaks against the encryption21:56
Frank81ok hitsujiTMO lets solv my next problem21:59
brontosaurusrexjawohl21:59
Frank81i use skype on ubuntu and its wine ported when it makes sounds21:59
Frank81i get a realy bad signal sound that don't stops until i stop the application22:00
Frank81a realy realy bad sound realy hurting22:00
Frank81it has something to do with pulse audio driver i think :D what can i do22:00
Frank81and one other big big problem if me is i have one Application that window the top of it is always out of screen so i cant realy move it22:00
Frank81how can i get it back into the screen :D22:01
daftykinsFrank81: hold left Alt, click and drag22:01
Frank81daftykins: wunderfull thx22:02
Frank81today is a good day today all my dreams become reality22:02
Frank81all works22:02
Frank81:D22:02
Frank81i am so happy cant stop typing that sorry22:02
hitsujiTMOFrank81: not very knowledgeable about wine i'm afraid. I avoid it like the plague. Why not use the native binary?22:02
RoryhitsujiTMO: The version of Skype for Linux just flat out isn't as good as the Windows version22:03
RoryIt's about 2 years behind22:03
Frank81Rory: its a wine port there is no skype for linux22:03
hitsujiTMOI see ...22:03
Frank81you can do a find and see it22:03
Frank81it creates wine dirs22:03
RoryWell TIL22:03
Rory!info skype22:03
ubottuPackage skype does not exist in saucy22:03
asc232-topic22:04
Frank81hitsujiTMO: i would love to use skype linux nativ binary maybe you can support microsoft with doing one22:04
Frank81:D22:04
JpmhFrank81 and Rory www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/‎22:04
Frank81Jpmh:  ITS a WINE Version !22:05
Frank81Download it install it look whats get created with checkinstall or else you will see it22:05
hitsujiTMOfrank most of my audio issues are with pulse audio ... i have 2 installs with the same intel audio. crackling on the install that has pulse, crisp clean sound on the one without.  dropping the audio levels in the pam control fixes the issue for others22:05
bekksFrank81: There is no such thing as a "skype wine version". There is a windows binary that may be executed under wine.22:05
Frank81thx a lot hitsujiTMO22:05
JpmhFrank81:  I have not tested it recently but I certainly in the past have run skype on both Macs and Ubuntu and have NEVER installed wine22:06
Frank81bekks ok there is a Skype Package that uses WINE22:06
Frank81Jpmh look do find / -iname 'wine'22:06
Frank81and look what you get :D22:06
Frank81i examined the skype port early coz i try since years to reverse engeneere some parts of it22:07
bekksFrank81: There isnt. You can use the Windows binary using wine, thats all.22:07
Frank81it was more easy to get a real windows source code then the one of skype22:07
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Jpmhyou CAN use the windoze version under wine or you can go to the page i gave you and get the correct version for your distro22:08
auronandace!skype22:08
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga22:08
andycare there normally any problems adding a desktop file to /usr/share/applications?  I'm just trying to add eclipse but it wont appear - do I need to run somethign to update the list?22:09
kostkonFrank81, the linux version is not a wine port22:10
Frank81ill verfiy that22:10
Jpmhkostkon: that's what I keep telling him - I even gave him the download page - he choses to ignore facts22:10
kostkonJpmh, :/22:11
auronandaceFrank81: perhaps you are thinking of teamviewer, that uses its own custom wine directory22:11
FrancisHhey guys, ive tried setting up ircd-hybrid, and the ports are open within my home network, but I get connection refused.22:13
JPSmanso i'm using gdm and I have "free'd the fish" - how do I kill the fish without having to killall gnome-panel ?22:13
FrancisHany help with my irc problem?22:14
kgalahassabekks, I'm trying.22:14
RoryFrancisH: Can you see the port is open when you use nmap? (nmap hostname -p portnum)22:15
RoryFrancisH: Or try telnetting to that port and see if you get immediately kicked off (telnet hostname portnum)22:15
FrancisHone sec rory22:15
FrancisHyeah i get right away kicked off22:16
FrancisHwhat does that mean?22:17
RoryFrancisH: It means there's nothing actually listening on that port22:18
FrancisHok…so what do i have to do?22:19
RoryFrancisH: If you run "netstat -tulpn" you can see what port (if any) it's listening on. Are you sure it's actually even running?22:19
RoryFrancisH: Might have to use sudo netstat -tulpn22:19
FrancisHno I see the ranges set in the conf file, so 6665 to 666922:20
Frank81wow22:20
RoryFrancisH: Do you see that in the output of netstat -tulpn?22:20
FrancisHyes22:20
Frank81htop now shows each cpu core22:20
RoryFrank81: Which actual port is it listening on?22:20
RoryFrank81: sorry that was intended for you22:20
RoryFrancisH: ^^^22:21
Rorywow22:21
Frank81Rory i know i have no port problems any more22:21
RoryYes Frank81 I was just hitting Fr[tab] but it fills in the most recent nick. My messages were both intended for FrancisH22:21
Frank81in the last 4 month i made networking my primary knowleg fild coz i created a totally new way to send data accross networks22:21
Frank81i wanna offer it as SaaS22:22
Frank81it speeds up tcp traffic by more then 600%22:22
RoryFrancisH: If you look in the "PID/ProgramName" column to find your IRC daemon, then look at the corresponding entry in the "Local Address" column, what does that say?22:22
Rory!ot > Frank8122:22
ubottuFrank81, please see my private message22:22
Frank81cool !ot > Rory22:23
bubbaciao22:23
Frank81ehm wait22:23
Frank81!ot > Rory22:23
ubottuRory, please see my private message22:23
bubba!list22:23
FrancisHit just says tcp22:23
ubottububba: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».22:23
Frank81cool i can use the bot too today is realy a good day22:23
RoryFrancisH: Could you copy the full output of "sudo netstat -tulpn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?22:24
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FrancisHhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6367246/ there you are rory22:25
RoryOK FrancisH I can see from the first line in the table that ircd-hybrid is listening on port 666722:25
FrancisHok...22:26
RoryFrancisH: Is that the port you have been trying to connect to?22:26
FrancisHyes i believe so let me try again22:26
Frank81Rory who runs that bot? called ubuntu?22:26
Frank81its vulunerible22:26
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FrancisHin adium it still says connecting22:27
RoryFrancisH: Can you connect to that port on telnet?22:27
hitsujiTMOFrank81: if you want to report any vulnerabilities about the bot, do so in #ubuntu-ops22:27
LeMikewhat's with that pem_umask? i edit the /etc/login.defs changed UMASK to 0002 but it is still 022 ...22:27
RoryFrancisH: FYI being able to PM someone without having to say it in this channel is not a vulnerability, it's a feature22:27
Frank81hitsujiTMO: thx again your today realy my bestfrind :D22:27
FrancisH:hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...22:28
FrancisH:hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking Ident22:28
FrancisH:hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** No Ident response22:28
Frank81you made the keyboards working again :D22:28
FrancisHthat what it gives me22:28
RoryFrancisH: Well in that case it is actually connecting to the server perfectly fine22:28
FrancisHcool so its just my irc client that is weird?22:28
hitsujiTMOFrank81: lol, np22:28
RoryFrancisH: I'd recommend finding the help channel or other documentation for the IRC daemon and asking there22:28
FrancisHok cool thanks alot Rory i appreciate it22:28
RoryFrancisH: Those messages are coming from the IRC daemon you see, so if it wasn't connecting you wouldn't see them22:28
FrancisHcool thanks!22:29
RoryFrancisH: Also I'm not totally up on IRC, but it seems like you're trying to identify or something, but haven't set up anything to recognise what that means "No ident response"22:29
FrancisHok ill look it up22:29
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eerHow can I change the vars shown with locale permanently? I can not find the vars in ~/.bashrc /etc/profile or ~/.profile22:30
samgabbaydoes anyone know how to decrypt a opepgp key?22:31
Rorysamgabbay: What do you mean by "decrypt" do you mean decrypt a file which has been encrypted using that key?22:32
hitsujiTMOeer: $LANGUAGE and $LANG?22:32
eerhitsujiTMO, but the scheme is territory.codeset, right?22:33
eerhitsujiTMO, where is the codeset stored?22:33
hitsujiTMOeer: example: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE22:33
samgabbaynevermind got it22:34
hitsujiTMOeer: that will work if you have the en language pack installed.22:34
disappearedngHey everyone. I have a windows 8 desktop which I just freed up 100 gb and installed ubuntu on it (mount point was '/'). I chose /dev/sda for the boot loader and when ubuntu has finished installing I arrive at just the grub menu when I reboot my computer (just grub >). Any ideas on how I can boot into ubuntu?22:34
hitsujiTMOeer: when you install a language pack it should list the supported locales22:34
eerhitsujiTMO, I don't have an update-locale command. Is it not installed by default?22:34
wilee-nileedisappearedng, Try the bootrepair app, and save the bootinfo summary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair22:35
hitsujiTMOeer: it should be. it works on a debootstrap install so it should be there for all22:36
JoeyJoeJoI'm running out of disk space and I'm trying to track down large files and folders. Is there a program that can scan my hard drive and show a graph of filesizes?22:36
eerhitsujiTMO, is there a way I can change the way date is displayed system wide? I want everything to be in English but the US American way of displaying the date drives me nuts. It is not logical to me month/day/year. I want day/month/year22:36
wilee-nileedisappearedng, this a W8 install you did and no uefi?22:37
hitsujiTMOeer: update-locale should address all of that22:37
mads-JoeyJoeJo, disk usage analyzer. Comes with Ubuntu22:37
hitsujiTMOeer: you need to run it as root too22:37
eerman update-locale -> No manual found22:37
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sharpneleer,  custom format22:38
hitsujiTMOeer: the command is there on 12.04 and 13.10 what version are you running?22:38
eer13.1022:38
eerThe program seems to be there but no man page.22:38
eerI can run the command but it doesn do anything22:39
hitsujiTMOeer: whats the output of update-locale without sudo?22:39
Pinkamena_DWhat would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu22:40
eerhitsujiTMO, update-locale: Unable to write /etc/default/locale: Permission denied22:40
disappearedngwilee-nilee: I think there is EFI22:40
disappearednghow can I cehck22:40
wilee-nileedisappearedng, If this is a OEM it is.22:40
disappearedngit is OEM22:40
hitsujiTMOeer: its working alright. you just need to reboot to see the effect of the changes22:40
eerhitsujiTMO, what changes?22:41
wilee-nileedisappearedng, Try the bootrepair app it is set for these sort of problema and others, and kicks out that bootinfo summary for analyses.22:41
disappearedngwilee-nilee: I just did, still ended up at this grub> menu22:41
hitsujiTMOeer: whatever changes you set here ->: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE22:41
disappearedngso annoying22:41
wilee-nileedisappearedng, You save the bootinfo?22:42
eerhitsujiTMO, how about the date?22:42
hitsujiTMOeer: it takes it from that info22:42
disappearedngI pressed ok then the dialog closed. Let me redo it22:42
eerI mean date format22:42
Trudkohi guys, I am going to install bunch of stuff regarding Ruby On rails development on my env, thing is I done this few times already, including installation on ubuntu server. What is best way how to automate installation ? I need to install Ruby, apache, mysql, rbevn etc etc22:43
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Guest54735anyone have trouble with wifi connection dropping with the new slackamander 13.10?22:43
hitsujiTMOeer: the format is assumed to be the same as LANG, unless you specify otherwise so you could add LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 to the list above if you wanted everthing irish except LC_TIME22:43
wilee-nileedisappearedng, This is not the best place for this problem at times, the ubuntu forum has a couple of people focused on this, that boot summary and uefi in a thread header will have them stop by a thread.22:44
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eerhitsujiTMO, will try. Gotta run now. Thx for your help.22:44
jayaranyone having wifi issues with the new saucy 13.10?22:51
ianmac1I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?22:51
wilee-nileejayar, State the issues with the wifi hardware info for help.22:51
hitsujiTMOianmac1: unfortunately no. it;s been brought up as a usability issue a few times but so movement on that.22:52
hitsujiTMOianmac1: the argument is that they want to get people to use the hud instead22:52
ianmac1hitsujiTMO, Ah, thank you. Hopefully they'll add an option to turn it on.22:52
ianmac1hitsujiTMO, Hmm.. perhaps they should focus on letting the user personalize the desktop they way they want instead of trying to get people used to something.22:53
disappearedngwilee-nilee: well if you have time please take a look: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371774/windows-8-oem-on-dell-desktop-installed-ubuntu-on-partition-reboot-to-see-only22:53
ianmac1just my $0.0222:53
hitsujiTMOianmac1: you're absolutely right on that22:53
ianmac1:)22:54
reisio¢22:54
jhutchins_wkdisappearedng: Did you read the documentation on installing ubutntu to a uefi system?22:54
disappearedngjhutchins_wk: what's a uefi system?22:54
jhutchins_wkdisappearedng: What you've got.22:54
jhutchins_wkdisappearedng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:55
ianmac1disappearedng, I believe UEFI is secure boot22:55
Rorydisappearedng: The easiest way is to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS and reinstall Ubuntu22:55
jhutchins_wk!uefi22:55
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI22:55
disappearedngjhutchins_wk: eh, no, since I don't even know what UEFI is22:55
ianmac1jhutchins_wk, thaks for that22:55
jayarhaving troubles with my wifi dropping "out of range" randomly, even when right next to router - 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)22:55
wilee-nileedisappearedng, uefi is a mystery for most of us, the manufacturers have their own versions, as I stated the ubuntu forum has a couple of people on every day focused on this. They use the bootinfo summary to get this stuff fixed, you would make sure to have uefi in a thread to get their attention.22:55
bekksjayar: Beeing too close to the router heavily impacts signal strength.22:56
jhutchins_wkianmac1: It's part of how secureboot is implemented, but it's been around for a while.  IBM uses it, Intel Macs use it.22:56
jayarit doesnt matter how close or far i am...22:56
hitsujiTMOjayar try disabling n on the module22:56
ianmac1jhutchins_wk, Ah, yes, I remeber having to disable it to install an old Ubuntu version on a laptop earlier this year22:56
wilee-nileedisappearedng, Thread header that is.22:56
jhutchins_wkianmac1: Linux/grub have been able to work with it for several years now.22:57
hitsujiTMOjayar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199479222:57
disappearedngok thanks guys, will reinstall. Seriously I had no idea about UEFI lol22:58
hitsujiTMOjayar: sorry that should be 11n_disable=1                https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/103474022:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 1034740 in Linux "8086:4238 iwlwifi drops connection when using 802.11n" [High,Confirmed]22:58
wilee-nileedisappearedng, If you are getting a grub> I doubt you need to reinstall, but do what suits you.22:58
Pinkamena_DWhat would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu? Usually I need to register with the domain on the windows computers. (I have the username and password for this)22:58
disappearedngand install the bootloader on /dev/sda right?22:59
wilee-nileedisappearedng, in a msdos yes, uefi I don't think so.23:00
hitsujiTMOPinkamena_D: https://www.zulius.com/how-to/resolve-windows-netbios-names-from-linux/23:01
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wilee-nileedisappearedng, Do you have the W8 backed up?23:01
KardinalGood evening all.  Has anyone else experienced the problem of their mouse disappearing (becoming invisible) in Unity and LightDM?  I'm able to log into an account I have setup with Gnome shell and once this loads the mouse icon appears.  This happened this evening after I applied some updates and then did a reboot.23:02
wilee-nileeKardinal, Have you modified unity, and were you on with another nick yesterday with this issue?23:03
Pinkamena_Dit always says "ping: unknown host"23:03
VlanXhello... any idea how i can expand the used ext3 partition inside a virtual machine?23:03
disappearedngwilee-nilee: actually I don't care much about the w823:03
disappearedngI only use it for age of empires23:03
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wilee-nileedisappearedng, I only use mine for word and grad papers, however that is enough for me to keep it usable, could this be the same basically for you.23:04
wilee-nileeis age of empires something you want in other words23:05
disappearedngserious when can steam port age of empires to steam on linux?23:05
disappearedngyeah23:05
disappearedngI haven't touched windows in a long long time23:05
joosseehey guys trying to get a TPLINK WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks? everything else working fine... notmuch help on google23:05
disappearedngmostly mac as I am a developer, and goobuntu at work23:05
hitsujiTMOVlanX: expand virtual drive first, then boot the vm with a live cd and expand the partition with gparted. unless you're using lvm, which you have to expand with the lvm tools. ALWAYS do a backup first.23:06
KardinalHi Wilee-nilee:  Answer : No - no Unity tweaking.  No - first time I'm reporting this issue as I've just hit it this evening.  BTW - It is Ubuntu 13.10.  The Gnome shell is 3.823:06
ianmac1hitsujiTMO, So I'm assuming there is no way to disable the dash altogether. I don't use it, I find it annoying. I've hidden it but it still pops out on file drag and drop and other times.23:06
Calinoudisappearedng: google employee... prepare for fans and the NSA running to you23:06
wilee-nileeKardinal, Is 3.8 a ppa version?23:06
joosseeit uses ath9k i do believe23:06
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hitsujiTMOianmac1: unfortunately i haven't heard of a way. should be possible, but have no idea if its an easy fix or not23:06
Kardinalyes, 3.8 PPA version.  I have it on my ToDo list to check out Gnome 3.10 in a Virtual Machine build.23:07
ianmac1hitsujiTMO, ok, I'll keep researching. Thank you very much for your help.23:07
glassres1storim having an issue with the Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 on 12.04, basically it works at some wifi but not others where its gets allot of excessive retries and misc errors'23:07
disappearedngCalinou: Ex, now I am running my own startup23:07
wilee-nileeKardinal, Nice dreams, however ppa's are not supported here and I suspect the root of the missing cursor, you aware of ppa-purge?23:08
glassres1storthe general search results are to turn off power mgmt and disable N11 which i've done without much help23:08
disappearedngwow linux mint is nice23:08
wilee-nileedisappearedng, mint is ubuntu in drag and not supported23:09
Rorywilee-nilee: That's certainly a unique description of Mint.23:10
wilee-nileemy own, lol23:10
KardinalCorrection - mymistake - I should have stated that Gnome-shell was installed via Software Centre, PPA is what is required for 3.10.  Gnome is fine with the mouse cursor - it is Unity that seems to have done the vanishing act!23:10
wilee-nileeKardinal, What releases you running?23:11
wilee-nileerelease*23:11
disappearedngwilee-nilee: if I reboot and I don't see grub at all (booting straight into ubuntu), is it correct that I assume that 1. Grub is installed, 2. Grub just doesn't present me the selection screen because it couldn't detect the partition for windows?23:12
wilee-nilee12.04 to 13.10 which is it23:12
KardinalBase install was Ubuntu 13.10 desktop i386.23:12
hitsujiTMOKardinal: the gnome ppas usually aren't compatible with unity as they replace common dependencies23:12
dkb0my audio stopped working23:13
hitsujiTMO!sound | dkb023:13
ubottudkb0: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:13
wilee-nileekardan, try a reset on unity and compiz. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/23:13
dkb0tried rebooting, tried resetting pulseaudio, looked at alsamixer, everything's fine23:13
dkb0nothing wrong with my hardware23:14
wilee-nileeKardinal, sorry look at the message to kardan23:14
KardinalThanks for that link - I'll check it out and see if that helps.  Much appreciated.23:14
wilee-nileeno prob23:14
wilee-nileekardan, Sorry.23:14
glassresistorwhats the best way to reinstall completely remove and readd the iwlwifi drivers etc.23:14
Roryglassresistor: It depends how you installed them in the first place23:16
dkb0hitsujiTMO: already went through the troubleshooting23:16
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hitsujiTMOdkb0: where is the sound braking so?23:16
hitsujiTMObreaking?23:17
dkb0sorry, i'll be back later23:17
glassresistorRory: using apt-get might have used a ppa trying to back to default settings and see how it looks23:17
Roryglassresistor: You can use "sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename"23:17
joosseeCan anyone help me get WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks?23:17
Roryjoossee: Can other devices connect to the network at 5ghz?23:19
joosseeyup.. like this laptop im on right now!23:19
joosseeRory, dualband router, one is named "-2" other isnamed "-5" so i know for sure..23:20
Roryjoossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it23:21
Roryjoossee: Also can you just clarify what Ubuntu version you're using, sorry if you already said23:21
joosseeRory, 12.0423:22
Roryjoossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it23:23
Roryjoossee: Also could you please put the output from the command: "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel?23:23
joosseeRory, doesnt show up in the list in network manager...23:23
Roryjoossee: OK so as well as "lspci -nn" I would like to see the output from "sudo iwlist scan"23:25
joosseeRory, http://pastebin.com/pnE6jAXC23:25
joosseeRory, can I do a sduo iwlist scan | grep Frequency:5 instead?23:28
Roryjoossee: No because that would only show the line that says "Frequency 5" and not the surrounding info. Feel free to censor SSIDs and MAC addresses if you are worried23:29
joosseeRory, iwscan doesnt return any 5ghz networks, just 2.423:29
RoryRight OK23:30
joosseeRory, `does kismet pickup 5ghz? perhaps i can see more details...?23:30
Power1Is there a fast way to remove old kernals from /boot to free some space?23:30
Roryjoossee: By the way, do you know this device supports 5Ghz? Just because it says "wireless n" doesn't mean it does - did you have it working in Windows or something?23:31
joosseeit clearly sez 5ghz on the box?23:31
joosseetp-link wdn480023:31
joosseeits pretty recommended in all the forums and stuff, i researched quite a while i am certain it does 5ghz23:31
RoryPower1: use uname -r to find your current version. Then "dpkg --list | grep linux-image" to view all installed kernel packages23:32
RoryPower1: Then "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic" for each one apart from the one you're using23:32
joosseeRory, no windows on this server, but if it helpsmy phone and my laptop can both see and connect to 5ghz from same location...?23:32
joossee(laptop is 5ghz)23:32
Power1it wont let me remove them with sudo apt-get purge23:32
joosseei have low gain atennas hooked up to the card as well\23:32
bekksPower1: Why not?23:32
Power1is there a pastebin site?23:33
bekksPower1: Pastebin the full output please and give us the URL.23:33
dkb0okay23:33
bekks!paste | Power123:33
ubottuPower1: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:33
RoryPower1: It might be "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename"23:33
dkb0so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked.23:33
dkb0anybody able to help?23:34
joosseeRory, WDN4800 uses ath9k chipset and i disabled hwcrypt in modeprobe since this chipset is known for lagging...?23:34
silveirausb speakers?23:34
dkb0silveira: regular sound jack, i don't know the technical term23:34
Power1http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/23:35
Power1and im out of space on boot23:35
Roryjoossee: I'm researching currently23:35
joosseeRory, ty .. ill be at this for a while so do your thing..23:36
Roryjoossee: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo iwconfig" ?23:36
joosseeyes23:36
joosseesudo iwconfig23:36
joosseeoops23:36
SerusHas anybody installed teamspeak?23:36
Rory!anybody | Serus23:36
ubottuSerus: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:36
dkb0anyone?23:37
Seruslol23:37
silveiradbk0, if speakers plug into a standard audio jack, then the next thing to check would be sound card function, using headphones perhaps23:37
joosseeRory, http://pastebin.com/zwq1qTdT23:37
Serus"Who installed teamspeak" doesn't sound right23:37
bekks!anyone | Serus23:38
ubottuSerus: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:38
RorySerus: Yes, some people in the world have installed teamspeak, to answer your question23:38
dkb0...okay, let me restate it then23:39
dkb0"so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked."23:39
silveiradbk0, what chipset of soundcard do you have?23:39
SerusHow do I install teamspeak? It shows up in the software center, but it doesn't give me the option to install it.23:40
RoryOK joossee here's where I'm at with my google-fu: Your output of "lspci -nn" shows that your device is a "AR93xx" - according to the information here (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k) it could be one of four devices. Three of them support dual-band, but one of them (AR9331) does not - I'm trying to determine if your chip is that one23:40
dkb0silveira: not sure, how do i check? it was working fine for ages before this happened.23:40
sventonhi all, I followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx to create a bootable USB stick but then rebooting the USB are not found23:40
joosseeRory, ok awesomethank you. to help: from what ive read this is a newish card and thepeoplemakingpsots dont seem to clear about whether thevy connected a 2 or 5 ghz...23:40
silveiradbk0, a "lspci" might tell you what ubuntu sees as your sound chipset23:41
rch-matthaving an issue with ubuntu laptop switching screens on ubuntu 13.04.03 lts. gives the error: requested position/size for crtc 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1366,0) size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920,1920)23:41
Roryjoossee: Can you pastebin "sudo lspci -vvv" it will be very long23:41
Roryjoossee: You might have to do "sudo lspci -vvv > outputfile" and then open "outputfile" ina  text editor, to stop the terminal chopping off the start of the output23:41
joosseeRory, roger thAT23:42
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Pinkamena_DI am sorry for my jumpy responses in the past. I am still looking for how to resolve hostnames of windows machines on my ubuntu box. From another windows box which is not registered to the domain, the names will still work and ping correctly, so this should not be as complicated as I throught at first23:42
chomwitti always see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek language. how can i see it in english?23:42
Pinkamena_Dwhen I use the ping command, am I supposed to be putting just the name or smb:\\thename or something else?23:42
Pinkamena_D(I have tried both of those)23:43
silveiraPinkamena_D, have you tried putting entires for the windows machines in your "hosts" file?23:43
Power1it looks like i need to rub apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/23:43
Pinkamena_Dthey have dynamic ips23:43
dkb0silveira: hmm, my headphones do work actually. i don't think there's anything wrong with my speakers though.23:43
dkb0anyway, here's this: http://pastebin.com/NkSLNbnD23:44
Rorychomwitt: When you visit that page, does the URL change?23:44
silveiradbk0, in that case there might be a mixer setting for output level, to switch between the low output range good for headphones and the higher output range needed for speakers.23:44
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joosseeRory, http://pastebin.com/yelmJ9LQ i pasted the part for the NIC in question, which convenenitly appeared at the very bottom. can report wholeif necessary23:45
Guest6558ciao a tutti23:45
Guest6558!list23:45
ubottuGuest6558: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».23:45
chomwittRory: no23:45
silveiradbk0, sometimes it's called "external amp" or something like that23:45
dkb0silveira: where would that be configured? didn't find anything in alsamixer.23:46
Roryjoossee: Says it's been removed23:46
joosseeRory, let me see again.. i have tomanually type pastebin urls23:47
Roryjoossee: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com23:47
silveiradbk0, it would be configured somewhere in alsamixer, usually23:47
joosseeRory, http://pastebin.com/yeimJ9LQ23:47
joosseeRory, ^^ thats the right one23:47
joosseeRory, sorry im ircingonphysicallyseperate machine23:47
silveiradbk0, are these speakers with a builin amp which might not be getting powerright now, or something like that?23:48
dkb0silveira: dammmnnn, i feel incredibly dumb. the speakers became unplugged, that should have been the first thing i checked for.23:48
dkb0thanks for the help23:49
silveiraa ha :)23:49
wafflejock_dkb0: haha always step 1 check for power :)23:49
Roryjoossee: Hmmm, still nothing more specific to be gleaned from that. Does it have a more specific model number on the box or on the card itsself?23:49
dkb0i'll keep that in mind next time23:49
wafflejock_dkb0: I always laugh when I see that in troubleshooting manuals but apparently it's a good idea :)23:49
joosseeRory, what wouldi belooking for... it came with a CD for windows, might those inf files have morespecificity? i can read the card but i will have topower down server and remove it which is kinda pain in butt?23:50
Power1it looks like i need to run apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel. Here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/23:50
joosseeRory, they only make one model of this card, again its relatively new23:51
Roryjoossee: Basically, I've reached the limit of my ability. Go on this page [ http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k ] and ctrl-F for AR93 - you will see 4 possible models highlighted. If you can somehow determine if your card is a AR9331 you will know that dual-band isn't suported by the driver23:51
Roryjoossee: But I can't work out how to make it give anything more specific than "AR93XX"23:52
joosseeRory, from reading the inf files i believe it is 9330 does thay make sense?23:52
hitsujiTMOjoossee: lscpi -nn23:52
wafflejock_joossee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203235723:53
silveirajoossee, if this is a pci card, you could get the pci id numbers at boot time, and from that know your model number23:53
hitsujiTMOjoossee: lscpi -nn | Network             that will give the pci and ven ids23:53
Power1I think my apt-get is broken23:54
Roryjoossee: Ah then that probably means it's not supported at 5GHz since in the context of that inf file, 9330 probably means "933X" and the only chip matching that in the driver is the AR9331 which has single-band support only23:54
joosseeRory, ok but I mean... are you saying the hardware doesnt physically support 5ghzor just the driver im running?23:54
Serusis it me, or is VLC's quality worse on linux?23:54
Roryjoossee: I mean the ath9k driver doesn't support it; the hardware does, physically, in theory23:55
joosseeSerus, display drivers on ubuntu are wrose..specially amd23:55
hitsujiTMOSerus: vlc just sucks in general23:55
AcidRain2012ive made full backups of all of my files. i would like to completely reinstall the unity desktop. how can i do this?23:55
SerusI use nvidia drivers I think23:55
perohitsujiTMO: do reco something better...23:55
AcidRain2012when i boot into unity, every window leaves trails. looks like the entire desktop is fully broken23:55
SerushitsujiTMO, that's not true, recent updates made it allot better.23:55
bekksSerus: Works fine here23:55
Geo_it works fine here too23:56
SerusCould be me23:56
hitsujiTMOPower1: why do you think apt-get is broken23:56
balMHello, I'm trying to set the correct time on my box but it doesnt work, I'm using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set the timezone. Any help would be appreciated, thanx.23:56
hitsujiTMOI've always had issues with vlc over the last 10 or so years (or however long its been around) mainly syncing issues23:56
joosseeRory, Rory23:56
wafflejock_hitsujiTMO: has been much better in recent times23:57
wafflejock_hitsujiTMO: not sure what changed23:57
joosseeRory, looking at that link you posted... Mine is a PCIe model, which are all marked DB or dual band?23:57
hitsujiTMOin fairness i havent used it in a few years but23:57
hitsujiTMObalM: have you sync the time with an npt server?: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com23:58
Serusbekks, yeah, it was the video. I do get a tiny bit stuttering in the beginning, but that's because the raspberry pi23:58
MorgawrHello, I'm not sure if this is the proper place to ask for this question but I have an intel HD4000 integrated GPU and I wanted to use OpenGL 3.2 but apparently mesa only supports OpenGL 3.0, I read that it's coming out with mesa 10 that has support for OpenGL 3.223:58
Roryjoossee: I'm only going by the number, and also by the fact that you are using the ath9k driver, and clearly 5GHz isn't working :P23:59
HomelessSantaHowdy all, does anyone in here know how I can kill X with a shortcut key in Ubuntu?23:59
MorgawrI installed the mesa drivers from a more up-to-date ppa that says I have mesa 10 but it still reports opengl 3.0, does anybody know where I can check and find the 3.2 drivers?23:59
bekksSerus: So how did you get the nvidia chipset onto a raspi? And do you run Ubuntu on your raspi?23:59
balMhitsujiTMO: No I didnt, I tought there is another way to do this like date ..23:59

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