[00:00] <wolfy1339> dos? no, i'm in ubuntu
[00:00] <gndlp> LOL
[00:00] <Anden> how do i make my own device for inputattach? because my keypad seems to be unsupported
[00:00] <joossee> wolfy1339, and it said "command not found"?
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> dorian, It's subjective, an opinion not support.
[00:00] <jhutchins> wolfy1339: What's a lua script?
[00:00] <wolfy1339> lua
[00:00] <joossee> thats sounds like windows!
[00:00] <wolfy1339> lua is programming language
[00:00] <gndlp> its what you use to hack payday 2 duh LOL
[00:01] <Fruckiwacki> joossee, yeah, installed saucy desktop beside an existing fully encrypted archlinux system. Due to the manual decryption and preparation of lvm volumes Ubuntu did know about lvm/luks and so kernel/initramfs modules were missing
[00:01] <Fruckiwacki> *did not know
[00:01] <zykotick9> jhutchins: fyi, awesome(wm) uses a lot of lua
[00:01] <dorian> so a coke/pepsi question. what are the options? strongswan and racoon? (i've only used openbsd isakmpd)
[00:01] <Fruckiwacki> joossee, i thought /etc/crypttab is unneded as it seems to be on at least Arch
[00:02] <joossee> Fruckiwacki, ive never had to use it
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> Fruckiwacki, saucy desktop?
[00:02] <Fruckiwacki> wilee-nilee, that whatever its called 13.10 release cd with live desktop
[00:02] <joossee> Fruckiwacki, theres a bug in previous versions of ubuntu, depending on display drivers, the screen asking u for the encrypted partition passwords doesnt display until you hit esc or start typing the password... does itlook like u r getting thoseprompts?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu hehe
[00:03] <Fruckiwacki> yeah, Saucy Salamander
[00:03] <joossee> Fruckiwacki, oh off a live CD? I have no idea.. i dont mess with that... make a bootstick instead
[00:03] <gndlp> Fruckiwacki: press the down arrow when that happens. That is the workaround
[00:03] <joossee> upvote gndlp
[00:04] <gndlp> Fruckiwacki: I have the same issue
[00:04] <Fruckiwacki> Quote: If you replace the entries in /etc/crypttab , make sure to update the initramfs ( update-initramfs -u -k all )
[00:05] <Fruckiwacki> should create one first :)
[00:05] <joossee> Fruckiwacki, this bug especially happens with multipleencryptedpartitions
[00:05] <sam113101> guys
[00:05] <gr33n7007h> Will settle for this one as it's pretty cheap if it doesn't work http://www.amazon.co.uk/Speedlink-STRIKE-PC-Gamepad-Black/dp/B00422IDJC/ref=pd_cp_vg_h__1#productDetails
[00:06] <sam113101> are icons broken for all of you, or is it just me?
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> !details | sam113101
[00:06] <Fruckiwacki> yeah thanks for the infos, will bear that in mind once i get (physical) access to the pc again :)
[00:07] <joossee> can i tell my wifi signal strength from the command line?
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Yeah everyones icons are broken, lol.
[00:07] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: really?
[00:07] <gndlp> sam113101: I had that happen once what version are you running?
[00:07] <joossee> UNITY: Now with even less icons (tm)
[00:08] <sam113101> gndlp: 13.10
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, You have frontal lobes, access them. ;)
[00:08] <gndlp> I could never get my frontal lobes to mount :-(
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: what icons exactly and how are they broken?
[00:08] <Rory> sam113101: No, not really
[00:09] <Rory> sam113101: Does the issue remain when you log in as another user, or as the Guest user?
[00:09] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I get icons from the ambiance theme although I'm using radiance
[00:09] <joossee> bad grampa = hilarious btw
[00:09] <wolfy1339> hey how do i use chmod to apply the mode R on a file
[00:09] <joossee> OH THE HUMANITY!!! HE HAS THE WRONG SET OF ICONS!!
[00:09] <sam113101> and when I use the ambiance theme I get icons from the radiance theme
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: in pcmanfm by any chance?
[00:10] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: no, in the top bar, nautilus, etc.
[00:10] <gndlp> sam113101: try this run $sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-asset-pool then reboot
[00:10] <sam113101> I'm trying to take a screenshot
[00:10] <jhutchins> joossee: Yes.
[00:10] <joossee> jhattara, just iwconfig or is there something better?
[00:10] <sam113101> but I can't take one when there's a context menu opened… lol
[00:11] <gndlp> joossee: bad grandpa so worth seeing?
[00:11] <joossee> gndlp, ya theres one scene in particular that is worth the wholemovie
[00:11] <wolfy1339> how do i use chmod to apply the mode R on a file
[00:11] <joossee> wolfy1339, by typing man chmod
[00:12] <jhutchins> Could we maybe get back to ubuntu support, and possibly "if you don't have something helpful to say, don't say anything"?
[00:12] <cfhowlett> !topic
[00:12] <joossee> hey im just waiting around re: command for seeing wireless strength other than iwconfig?
[00:13] <sam113101> "Imgur is over capacity!"
[00:13] <sam113101> ok, here's an example: http://i.imgur.com/x388mxf.png
[00:13] <sam113101> see the icon?
[00:14] <cfhowlett> sam113101, you mean the signal strength, yes?
[00:14] <sam113101> cfhowlett: no, the keyboard layout
[00:14] <sam113101> there's a faint "Fr"
[00:14] <cfhowlett> sam113101, OK
[00:14] <sam113101> it's supposed to be dark gray, same as other icons
[00:15] <education_cfp> Hello users..this is a really educational  facebook page for everyone and with variuos topics..please support it (like)  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Educationcomesfirst/582556008464181
[00:15] <education_cfp> Hello users..this is a really educational  facebook page for everyone and with variuos topics..please support it (like)  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Educationcomesfirst/582556008464181
[00:15] <FloodBot1> education_cfp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <kyle__> Does anyone here using ldap authenticaion on 13.10?  I've got clients that have been using it through 12.04, but now I just get "failed to bind to LDAP server ldap:///someserver: Can't contact LDAP server" in my auth.log
[00:16] <sam113101> cfhowlett: here's another example: http://i.imgur.com/Ww5rWBS.png
[00:18] <salamandre43025> Hi all, I'm getting 'upgrade-modifier-motd' errors 28 and 35 when I try to boot 12.04LTS
[00:18] <salamandre43025> It's forcing a read-only filesystem and there is no documentation about it
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> salamandre43025: can you post you dmesg please
[00:20] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: did you see my screenshots?
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: yup, what tool are you using to change them, gnome-twaek-tool?
[00:21] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: it's a bug, it's not supposed to be this way
[00:21] <sam113101> I want to fix it
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: how did you install the theme?
[00:22] <salamandre43025> hitsujiTMO: No dice. No access to the whole file system, it's all happening before the spash on boot
[00:22] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I didn't, comes with ubuntu
[00:22] <gndlp> salamandre43025: can you go into recovery mode?
[00:23] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: did you install the icon set to the /usr/share/icons folder?
[00:23] <Mapley> use gnome-tweak-tool to set 'show icons in menu'
[00:23] <Mapley> sam113101, ^
[00:23] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I didn't install anything, I just expect everything to work
[00:24] <salamandre43025> gndlp: I can go into recovery mode, but it won't allow me to use jockey-text to switch the drivers back from what killed the boot
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: you must manually put the icons there. then set them in gnome-tweak-tool
[00:24] <salamandre43025> gndlp: because that's also read only
[00:25] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: where am I supposed to get them?
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> salamandre43025: have you tried remounting the filesystem? sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[00:26] <Dresk|Laptop> How would someone switch the default window manager at auto-login via files (not using the GUI?)  Trying my best to automate something
[00:26] <gndlp> salamandre43025: can you try and get a log out of the machine?
[00:26] <gndlp> from recovery
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool with apt-get  ...    then wherever you downloaded the theme to, it prob has an icons folder that you need to copy to /user/share/icons
[00:27] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I don't think you understand my problem
[00:27] <sam113101> maybe "icon" wasn't the word
[00:27] <gndlp> salamandre43025: /var/log/dmesg is the one i want
[00:28] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: there's supposed to be a check mark besides "show sidebar", well it's there but it's faint… it's supposed to be gray/black
[00:28] <salamandre43025> gndlp: checking now
[00:28] <sam113101> also a dot beside "by name"
[00:29] <Mapley> sam113101, probably your icon theme's colors clashing with your GTK+ theme
[00:30] <sam113101> Mapley: it happens even with a new user
[00:30] <sam113101> and it's a new installation
[00:30] <Mapley> sam113101, fresh settings?
[00:30] <sam113101> Mapley: yep
[00:30] <Mapley> Eh, derp, I'm stumped.
[00:31] <sam113101> even crazier things happen when I plug my ipod in
[00:31] <sam113101> (seriously)
[00:31] <gndlp> ipods are not cool man
[00:31] <salamandre43025> gndlp: command not found
[00:31] <sam113101> why would unity even care about my ipod
[00:31] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: that sounds like a problem with the icon pack? again. did you install it to the right folder? are there any dependencies for the pack that need to be installed?
[00:32] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I didn't install anything
[00:32] <gndlp> salamandre43025: oh lol i want you to cat it and paste the input to paste.ubuntu.com or take a pic of it with your phone something
[00:32] <sam113101> it's the default theme
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: so you want to change the theme to a theme that isn't installed?
[00:32] <gndlp> salamandre43025: we are looking for something out of the norm
[00:32] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: no, the theme isn't working correctly
[00:33] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: alright, let me draw you something, lol
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: ok ... so have you at least installed gnome-tweak-tool?
[00:34] <salamandre43025> gndlp: not possible. Once again: unity is not booting. Splash is not loading. There is a driver errorr with Nvidia 319 updates and the read only file system is stopping me from fixing it from a command shell
[00:35] <stercor> I upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 Upgrade Ubuntu 13.04 to 13.10.  I have a brick. Message: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)  I searched the Internet but the solutions mentioned GRUB.  I have LILO.  What to do?
[00:35] <gndlp> salamandre43025: just run $ cat /var/log/dmesg
[00:35] <James_Epp> I installed the package nvidia-319 as per steam's suggestion through the software center. After this, I cannot get a GUI up on my system. Is there any way I can remove this package without access to the live system?
[00:35] <gndlp> in your root terminal on recovery boot
[00:35] <salamandre43025> gndlp: and now it's forcing fsck to access tty
[00:35] <PDilyard> is there a way to save the currently open applications between reboots?
[00:36] <gndlp> salamandre43025: that is normal let it do its thing
[00:36] <harris> for ubuntu touch on the status page why are there still two broken features for the nexus 7
[00:36] <PDilyard> so when i reboot it just reopens my workspace to what it was before
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool
[00:36] <PDilyard> v 12.04 btw
[00:38] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: http://i.imgur.com/XLpuNou.png
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: its faint because it doesn't contrast well with you icon theme, so you need to change your icon theme
[00:40] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: what icon theme, man? it's the default one…
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: exactly.
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: the default icon theme is ... WHITE
[00:40] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: if I log out and log back in it's alright
[00:40] <sam113101> how do you explain that? lol
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: install gnome-tweak-tool and set the icon theme to ubuntu-mono-light
[00:41] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: it's set to ubuntu-mono-light already
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: how did you set it?
[00:42] <kindle> reinstall/
[00:42] <kindle> That's advice from a noob, though
[00:43] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: http://i.imgur.com/BOtouMP.png
[00:43] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: right click on desktop -> change desktop background -> theme -> radiance
[00:43] <sam113101> that's how I did it
[00:44] <sam113101> it worked fine on 13.04 and I expect it to work on 13.10 too
[00:44] <sam113101> it's not supposed to be sorcery
[00:44] <sam113101> (not blaming you for it btw)
[00:44] <gndlp> yes sorcery is reserved for upstart
[00:45] <tjbiddle> Not ubuntu specific - but this is driving me insane. Why does xargs keep leading with whitespace? git branch -a | grep __ | awk '{print $1}' | sed -e 's/remotes\/origin\///g' | grep -v 'storm' | xargs -t -n1 git push origin :
[00:45] <tjbiddle> it keeps giving me something like `git push origin : mybranch`
[00:45] <sam113101> what about systemd?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: ok, but you didnt do it in gnome-tweak-tool , like i told you to 5 million times :P ... when you do it normally, it just changes a var that gets read upon application start. gnome-tweak-tool sends out a message that forces certain apps to refresh that var.
[00:45] <tjbiddle> not supposed to be a space between the colon and branch
[00:46] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: just tried it, doesn't work
[00:46] <sam113101> it changes other icons
[00:46] <sam113101> but not the ones that are broken
[00:46] <salamandre43025> I might have  found a work around
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: that might be an app dependant issue, that that particular app isn't refreshing til it's restarted
[00:48] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: it's not just nautilus, it's the bar, too
[00:48] <sam113101> *the bar*
[00:49] <maujhsn> Like to know if there is a dedictated freenode channel for "network-manager" issues!
[00:50] <gimpygoo> Holy jeeeez! Kde is incredibly cool!
[00:50] <gimpygoo> Thanks for the advice on how to switch desktops..
[00:50] <sam113101> gimpygoo: it's not
[00:50] <sam113101> it's heavy and ugly
[00:50] <gimpygoo> I like it better then unity so far...
[00:50] <gimpygoo> so HA!
[00:50] <sam113101> really?
[00:51] <gimpygoo> I think i just like the fact i was able to change it .
[00:51] <gimpygoo> :)
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: just tried it myself. those items changed for me under gnome-tweak-tool. they are not part of the icon theme but the gtk+ theme
[00:51] <gimpygoo> Its awesome that you can change the entire way a computer looks and you didnt change the os out... and I can change it back.
[00:51] <gimpygoo> Im falling in love with linux.... I feel amazed at my computer again.
[00:52] <gimpygoo> Amazing.
[00:52] <gndlp> gimpygoo: I am worried about you based on what you just said and your nick
[00:52] <gimpygoo> lol
[00:52] <sam113101> I kind of like and hate linux both at the same time
[00:52] <gimpygoo> oh come on now :)
[00:52] <gimpygoo> i just think its super cool.
[00:52] <gimpygoo> thats all.
[00:52] <gimpygoo> It kills windows.
[00:53] <maujhsn> gimpygoo What do you like most about ubuntu?
[00:53] <sam113101> I like the freedom it gives me, but I can only choose between buggy software
[00:53] <sam113101> but if you forget about anything graphical
[00:53] <sam113101> and forget about sound
[00:53] <gimpygoo> I like the fact that Im fairly new and its not as scary as I thought it would be... I feel like I have the ability to change EVERYTHING... at least i will once I learn.
[00:53] <sam113101> etc., it's all good
[00:54] <sam113101> CLI is good on linux
[00:54] <hnsz> gimpygoo: I dare you to install linux commandline only
[00:54] <gimpygoo> CLI?
[00:54] <gimpygoo> naahh.. hnsz...
[00:54] <sam113101> command line interface
[00:54] <gndlp> gimpygoo: google linux from scratch
[00:54] <gimpygoo> I installed the desktop environments using the terminal.
[00:54] <gndlp> and install it
[00:54] <gimpygoo> .... :)
[00:54] <myndzi> i uhh.. have some upstart job that appears to be stuck in a reboot loop and can't stop or kill it
[00:54] <myndzi> halp?
[00:55] <hnsz> gimpygoo: Or try commandline only in a virtual machine
[00:55] <gimpygoo> Nahh.. I dont wanna go backwards :)
[00:55] <gndlp> myndzi: what is the job
[00:55] <hnsz> gimpygoo: Otherwise you can always install w3m browser ;)
[00:55] <myndzi> one i was trying to create
[00:55] <alumno__> s
[00:55] <alumno__> que hacen chicos
[00:55] <alumno__> qe decis kṕo
[00:56] <alumno__> hola
[00:56] <myndzi> http://pastie.org/8455867
[00:56] <gndlp> myndzi: PEBKAC..... lol jk what stanzas do you have
[00:56] <genii> gimpygoo, myndzi, gndlp ... For extended conversation about non-upoort issues, please consider using #ubuntu-offtopic, especially whn other users are asking actual support questions in the channel.
[00:56] <cfhowlett> !es
[00:56] <alumno__> hay alguien
[00:56] <gimpygoo> ok.. Sorry genii.
[00:56] <alumno__> i dont speaking english
[00:56] <cfhowlett> !es|alumno__,
[00:56] <alumno__> i from argentina
[00:56] <wafflejock> !ubuntues | alumno__
[00:56] <cfhowlett> !ar|alumno
[00:57] <myndzi> i'm not sure if that's the exact version that got run
[00:57] <wafflejock> alumno__: /join #ubuntu-es
[00:57] <wafflejock> ah argentina
[00:57] <alumno__> alguien habla español XD
[00:57] <myndzi> but it seems silly to me if i can't just tell it "abort and die"
[00:57] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, yep
[00:57] <alumno__> HOLA
[00:57] <myndzi> i've removed the script entirely and it's just cycling through process ids ;\
[00:57] <alumno__> A TODOS
[00:57] <hnsz> portugees*
[00:57] <alumno__> HOLA ALGUIEN DE AMERICA DEL SUR
[00:58] <myndzi> wait, what? it finally stopped o_O
[00:58] <alumno__> ???? XD
[00:58] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: is there a channel more appropriate for bug solving/development of ubuntu?
[00:58] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> myndzi: remove the respawn from the conf
[00:58] <alumno__> ???? XD
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> myndzi: remove the respawn from the conf
[00:58] <alumno__> HI I DONT SPEAK SPANISH
[00:58] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: is there a channel more appropriate for bug solving/development of ubuntu?
[00:58] <alumno__> Quit
[00:58] <sam113101> goddamn netsplit
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: nothing more relevant than here
[00:58] <alex_> so. should i replace ubuntu 12.04 with lubuntu or xubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:59] <alumno__> hii
[00:59] <gndlp> myndzi: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#respawn
[00:59] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I want someone to guide me through debugging something
[00:59] <gndlp> myndzi: see if that helps
[00:59] <alumno__> i dont speak english
[00:59] <cfhowlett> alex_, my crystal ball is too dusty to tell me your needs or specs, so ... how the heck would we know what works best for you?
[00:59] <wafflejock> sam113101: depending on what you're looking for support on you may find more direct support channels but this is usually a good place to start
[00:59] <hnsz> South Americans are so obnoxious. They seem to have not gotten the memo yet on how talking in all caps is like shouting.
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> myndzi: don't add a respawn until you know the script is stable
[01:00] <cfhowlett> hnsz, not helpful
[01:00] <Pici> hnsz: thats not appropriate for this channel
[01:00] <myndzi> i learned that the hard way, but i still need(ed?) to know how to abort the script
[01:00] <sam113101> wafflejock: when I reboot my computer and my ipod touch is plugged in, weird things happen, I don't know where to start looking
[01:00] <myndzi> it seems to have resolved itself but if there's an emergency stop button i'd still like to know about it ;)
[01:00] <hnsz> cfhowlett: Pici Fair enough. I guess I'm just happy to have gotten it out of my system.
[01:01] <wafflejock> sam113101: be more specific about weird things
[01:01] <wafflejock> !details | sam113101
[01:01] <gndlp> myndzi: kill -9 pid:1 that has always worked for me
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> gndlp: :P
[01:02] <sam113101> wafflejock: theme inconsistency, wallpaper doesn't span across multiple monitors, the font isn't right in some apps
[01:02] <sam113101> and all of those issues vanish when I unplug my ipod and reboot
[01:02] <ryanprior> When I hit Ctrl+Alt+Shift+(Left|Right) I am able to move windows to workspaces left or right. However, substitute (Up|Down) and nothing happens. Can anybody else reproduce this? Is it a bug or did they change the way keybindings work?
[01:03] <sam113101> I don't know why it would happen
[01:03] <sam113101> it doesn't make sense
[01:03] <cfhowlett> sam113101, so the OBVIOUS solution is ...
[01:03] <wafflejock> sam113101: do you encounter issues if you boot with it not plugged in but then plug it in?
[01:03] <jhutchins> sam113101: dmesg and /var/log/messages are where to start.
[01:04] <jhutchins> sam113101: Possibly Xorg.0.log or wherever the xserver logs these days.
[01:04] <sam113101> wafflejock: no, and if I log out and log back in, the issues vanish, too
[01:04] <sam113101> without rebooting
[01:04] <scottyob> Howdy, I'm looking at seeing what users a package creates.  How would I go about this for the package say, 'rancid'
[01:04] <jhutchins> sam113101: So it's a GUI issue.
[01:05] <sam113101> config --replace also fixes the issues
[01:05] <sam113101> IIRC
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> scottyob: as in: dpkg -L <package>
[01:06] <sam113101> jhutchins: compiz bug? unity bug? light dm bug?
[01:06] <jhutchins> hitsujiTMO: I believe that just shows files.
[01:06] <scottyob> hitsujiTMO: that shows all the files (handy)
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> scottyob: woops, never read your question propperly
[01:06] <jhutchins> sam113101: Yes, probably.
[01:06] <wafflejock> sam113101: you may want to re-install your DE, but digging into logs is probably the only way you'll really see what's going wrong, as others have stated here quite a few places to check
[01:06] <jhutchins> sam113101: Probably not the dm.
[01:06] <sam113101> ok
[01:06] <sam113101> could it be the x server itself?
[01:07] <jhutchins> sam113101: Yes.
[01:07] <sam113101> brb, I'll investigate the thing
[01:07] <sam113101> wish me luck
[01:07] <wafflejock> sam113101: godspeed
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> scottyob: you'd have to see the init scripts in the package itself afaik
[01:09] <jhutchins> sam113101: Sounds like you should be able to figure it out, document it if you can.
[01:11] <maujhsn> ubottu Can you send me help commands?
[01:11] <wafflejock> !bot | maujhsn
[01:12] <maujhsn> ubottu Hmmmm!
[01:13] <x_root> hey, i'm tryin' to mount a partition at startup
[01:14] <x_root> tried through the disk utility but this gives the permissions just to the root user..
[01:14] <x_root> i give this up and tried the "normal" way by mounting by myself.. if i copy 'n paste the info from mount
[01:14] <hitsujiTMO> x_root: man fstab
[01:15] <x_root> of this unity in the disk utility, can happen any problem?
[01:15] <x_root> i know, but seems that can't be used without the UUID, which for some odd reason don't appear
[01:16] <wafflejock> !fstab | x_root
[01:16] <wafflejock> x_root: The device/partition (by /dev location or UUID) that contain a file system.
[01:18] <wafflejock> !UUID | x_root
[01:19] <maujhsn> dr_willis How are you? It's been ages since I've communicated in #ubuntu!
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> x_root: you can also get the UUID of a drive with: sudo blkid
[01:19] <scottyob> cheers hitsujiTMO
[01:19] <wafflejock> ubottu has it all covered :)
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> beat me to it :P
[01:19] <x_root> thanks, blkid show
[01:20] <PDilyard> ok i just got whatever the linux equivalent of a blue screen of death is
[01:21] <wafflejock> if only I could ubottu !buildAngularJSWebApplication although with yeoman.io it's getting close
[01:21] <wafflejock> PDilyard: kernel panic
[01:21] <wafflejock> ?
[01:21] <PDilyard> screen just went gray and sat there
[01:21] <PDilyard> im not sure what it was
[01:21] <PDilyard> but i couldnt get out of it without powering off
[01:21] <wafflejock> Ctrl+Alt+F1 will get you to a terminal if your X server poops out or DE is generally locked
[01:22] <PDilyard> ok
[01:22] <wafflejock> PDilyard: were you able to boot back up okay?
[01:22] <PDilyard> yep everything seems normal
[01:22] <PDilyard> do you think its anything to worry about?
[01:22] <PDilyard> i just installed yesterday
[01:22] <PDilyard> on this machine
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: it was probably just the xserver choking on something
[01:23] <PDilyard> i see
[01:23] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah wouldn't worry unless it's happening consistently
[01:23] <PDilyard> ok thank you
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: if it happens again: thats when you need to worry
[01:24] <PDilyard> right
[01:24] <wafflejock> PDilyard: always good to back up though once you feel things are stable
[01:24] <PDilyard> yeah well the only stuff i have on this drive is windows, ubuntu, and some stuff thats on github
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, you want to aware of, rather then a hard shutdown if possible.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !reisud
[01:25] <PDilyard> my other drive has all important files on it
[01:25] <PDilyard> ok
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> !reisub
[01:25] <wafflejock> PDilyard: good move on the dedicated drives for OS vs data makes things easier I'm sure
[01:26] <PDilyard> wafflejock, yeah the OS drive is a 256GB SSD, the files drive is a 1TB HDD
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, You have the ssd using a trim setup?
[01:26] <PDilyard> what do you mean? lol
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> !trim
[01:27] <wafflejock> PDilyard: will hopefully do that in my next laptop, for now just on a 128GB SSD, have an external NAS I backup to occasionally but really not making the best use of it... need to get rsync setup with cron but have been too lazy so far... mostly sync stuff to a remote git server too though so not too concerned
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> heh not in the bot, hold on
[01:27] <daftykins> TRIM maintains your SSD by purging outdated 'dirty' blocks of data
[01:27] <daftykins> for data cannot be edited, only programmed or erased.
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Here is one I use, there are many on the web get a modern one, most are the same basically. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Not necessarily attached to a fail as you describe but a tool you want to use.
[01:29] <PDilyard> ok i'll look into it
[01:29] <PDilyard> thanks for the tip
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> I have a 256 gig ssd as my HD
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: please tell me you didn't use noatime?
[01:30] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee, just follow all the steps on that page?
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Read carefully there is a section on a seperate home and a couple of options is all.
[01:30] <hitsujiTMO> PDilyard: where it says noatime use relatime instead
[01:31] <PDilyard> mmmk
[01:31] <wilee-nilee> I thin k it is fairly understandable but feel free to ask here if needed.
[01:33] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: what makes using noatime so bad? don't have it setup here and just read up on relatime so that makes sense but wondering what in particular breaks without the updated atime values?
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: some apps use the atime, so using noatime breaks them. relatime has all the benefits of noatime and none of the cons.   some stuff that break are things like some mail tools, some backup tools, tmpwatch. most break silently, such that you'll ever see why its breaking so it can make those tools harder to debug.
[01:38] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: yeah was thinking backup programs but just curious.. thx will go relatime on this too then
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: popularity-contest uses it: http://popcon.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <kriskropd> does anyone here use fbgs? can I use fbgs inside xorg to view pdfs? I'm getting this error "Unrecoverable error: undefined in .getdeviceparams"
[01:48] <lecoeus> kriskropd: i really don't think so
[01:49] <lecoeus> kriskropd: try zathura
[01:52] <lolhiimchris> Upgraded to 13.1 and can't connect to wifi anymore. Network shows up in the list, but it just repeatedly asks me for the password. Using an Encore Wireless N300 PCI. When I type lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net it shows rtl8192ce. Any ideas why it just won't connect? Currently on windows trying to figure it out.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> lolhiimchris, Can you boot to it and use another way to communicate, from windows is a hassle.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> just a suggestion is all
[01:55] <lolhiimchris> I can try to get on IRC on my phone, I wiped the ubuntu installation and put Windows back on because I needed a functional computer, so all I can do is boot into a LiveCD
[01:55] <lolhiimchris> but even on the live it doesn't connect
[01:56] <XLV> lolhiimchris use wired eth till you figure it out
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> lolhiimchris, Ah, no actual install, well not sure what to say, realtec is a hassle they don't have linux drivers take a look here, http://askubuntu.com/search?q=rtl8192ce
[01:56] <TrD> hi all
[01:57] <TrD> i have a problem with my Wireless interface
[01:57] <TrD> it say connected but no internet
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> !details | TrD
[01:58] <lolhiimchris> is there any reason it would just break like that though? it worked perfectly fine in 13.04 and the 12.04 LTS version works fine as well
[01:58] <lolhiimchris> i'm assuming it's kernel related?
[01:58] <wafflejock> TrD: can you ping your router?
[01:58] <TrD> one second please wafflejock
[01:58] <TrD> yes i can wafflejock
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> lolhiimchris, realtec have no linux drivers all that work are reverse or nd wrappers, I would get one that just works, these are one of the worst in general.
[01:59] <wafflejock> can you nslookup an address
[01:59] <LittleRedPanda> (lurking for INFO324 anyone ?)
[01:59] <TrD> one sec please
[01:59] <phix> hey, in apparmor what is the difference between /var/lib/ and /var/lib/** when specifying a directory?
[01:59] <maicod> for ubuntu 12.04 in what path are the static quicklist entries stored ?
[02:00] <phix> is ** mean all files in that directories? or recursive including directories and files within them?
[02:00] <phix> or is that what / means?
[02:00] <TrD> i cant wafflejock
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> lolhiimchris, Just no real support is what you can assume.
[02:02] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee, is this a good option from TRIM? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[02:02] <PDilyard> the cron job section
[02:03] <wafflejock> TrD: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[02:03] <wafflejock> it's a public DNS from google
[02:03] <maicod> hi I want to edit the command that loads the terminal from the Ubuntu 12.04 Quicklist (the side bar) . where is te config file located ?
[02:04] <wafflejock> TrD: if you can ping that you have a connection to the outside and DNS is breaking down somewhere if you can't ping that you may need to check out your WAN connection on the router, do you have other devices connected?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, That is the same as the link I gave you.
[02:04] <PDilyard> ah ok
[02:04] <PDilyard> haha sorry
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Basically, after you do this a couple of times it becomes more recognizable, I have 3 Linux installs so have done it a few times.
[02:05] <phix> ok so does any one know all about apparmor?
[02:05] <PDilyard> i see
[02:05] <TrD> yes i'm connected with a 3G dongle now wafflejock
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> !details | phix
[02:06] <wafflejock> TrD: I mean are any other devices connected through the router, sorry for not specifying I realize you're here :)
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> phix, You will know if you spell out the issues
[02:07] <wafflejock> phix generally speaking ** is all subdirectories
[02:07] <wafflejock> !apparmor | phix
[02:07] <phix> wilee-nilee: I have already above, I got no answer so instead of repeating the question I bumped it :)
[02:07] <phix> wafflejock: thank you, that is all I wanted to know
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> phix, Cool I missed that.
[02:08] <kakakal> hi alll, i have a dual boot system with win8 in it, i was comparing copy speed of my pendrive, pendrive file system is fat32 and it took 40 seconds to copy 2.8 Gb data in windows 8, then i tried same pendrive, in same port in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ext4 , desktop, it took 52 seconds to copy same data, why ext4 is slow as compared to NTFS and i tried the same with nautilus, dolphin and pcmanfs, all of them produced same results,
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> kakakal, Not much can be done to speed this up I would not really spend to much time on it.
[02:09] <phix> wilee-nilee: If you are interested, apparmor is stopping bind from running when using samba4 in DLZ mode, I read the samba4 wiki first however it failed to mention I need MMAP and LOCK permissions on some of the libraries and ldb files.
[02:09] <phix> wilee-nilee: I now have it working :D  You would of thought the sernet packages would of included a samba apparmor file
[02:10] <kakakal> wilee-nilee: i am trying to prove that ubuntu is better than win8, but it is lagging
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> phix, I never have messed with appamour
[02:10] <kakakal> lagging in terms of small benchmarks
[02:10]  * daftykins is now known as Mulder
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> kakakal, They both have a good, bad and ugly side, you can't empirically prove one is better than the other overall.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> they have their individual uses
[02:11] <kakakal> wilee-nilee: it is okay that, it will not take much time but performance is performance, when hardware is capable of doing it, it should utilize the hardware to its fullest
[02:12] <phix> wilee-nilee: well it is on by default since Ubuntu 7.10 :)
[02:12] <wafflejock> kakakal: I'm sure this depends on a lot of factors you may be able to use iotop to glean some more information about the details of your disk access also some of the steps wilee-nilee had suggested above on mounting using relatime in fstab and the like may affect things
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> I think that goes in the Martin Luther King "I Have a Dream" category
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> phix, On but blocked unless tweaked
[02:13] <kakakal> wafflejock: why not mount them automatically, without user's consent if performance can be improved this way
[02:14] <wafflejock> kakakal: it depends on your use case scenario and they aren't going to have something in the system defaults that isn't going to work for everyone is my best guess
[02:14] <wafflejock> kakakal: I agree with wilee-nilee pretty much on this though there are bigger picture issues than a small performance gain on a huge data transfer depending on what your pitching it being used for
[02:15] <kakakal> think about it, i am a normal user, a windows user and trying ubuntu first time, i will not such kind of tweaks or will get tired of somethings like that, because i never did such things,
[02:15] <kakakal> 2.8G is normal now a days,
[02:16] <buu> Ok why did my wireless suddenly turn into 24mbps
[02:16] <daftykins> rate adaptive?
[02:16] <buu> It was 480mbps last night
[02:16] <KillBiebs> I believe only users who want to know all the tweaks will really get the most out of linux. I am learning and it seem's like every little thing requires tweaking but I know once I get it configured right I will have uptimes of 100+ days
[02:16] <buu> daftykins: What's that?
[02:16] <wafflejock> kakakal: being a pretty hardcore windows user in the past I can tell you I ended up getting into the registry and system internals plenty of times
[02:16] <daftykins> buu: wireless connections change data speed depending on throughput typically
[02:17] <buu> daftykins: I mean, when I run wget I'm only getting 24mbps
[02:17] <daftykins> oic
[02:17] <Skapare> has anyone installed either 13.10 or 12.04.3 on an 'ASUS Republic of Gamers G750JH-DB71 17.3" Notebook' ? ... I'm looking at maybe buying one of these and wonder if Ubuntu (or Xubuntu) will work on it with support for all the things (video, wifi, audio, etc) ... I'm looking at buying one of those (and not leave Windows 8 on it)
[02:17] <daftykins> poor articulation sir!
[02:18] <kakakal> wafflejock: most of peoples are not developer here, they are here to do their day to day task, like office and social media
[02:18] <buu> daftykins: One of the many amusing points is I get 24mbps ... with or without the antennas connected to the card. Heh.
[02:18] <wafflejock> kakakal: not to mention years of fixing driver issues for people, there are problems with all computer systems, most regular users really don't care about 12 seconds on a 2.8GB transfer, day to day I download e-mails listen to music and do development tasks and use git
[02:18] <wafflejock> kakakal: are they transferring DVDs on the regular?
[02:18] <buu> You'd think three 8in antennas would make a slight difference
[02:18] <kakakal> sometask are fulfilled, some are at very down side, although alternative exists
[02:19] <wafflejock> kakakal: agree there are defintiely pitfalls to every system I've ever used
[02:20] <lindar> I'm about to headbutt a nail here. I've just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and now Anthy (Japanese) isn't working. Here's the weird thing, though... if I click on the Unity jigger at the top left and type in the search box, it works just as intended, but literally nowhere else will it input Japanese. Ideas?
[02:20] <wafflejock> kakakal: which covers quite a bit, SuSe, RedHat, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, OS X, MS-DOS up around 5.x, Windows 3.1 95, 98, XP, Vista, 7, 8
[02:21] <wafflejock> kakakal: I've been through a lot of systems over time and not one is the silver bullet which is why they're still in competition and developing
[02:21] <kakakal> wafflejock: you are right, nothing is completely perfect but we can try to get best of it. Like facebook video calling isn't available, alternative exist in the world like skype, but why the all other people will signup and go to skype, when video call is directly available to them in their chat window
[02:21] <wafflejock> kakakal: I use Google Hangouts, I try to use services that are just available everywhere
[02:22] <wafflejock> kakakal: lots of great web based tools for sharing now that work regardless of system
[02:22] <buu> Can anyone give me some pointers as to how to fix the world's slowest fucking wifi connection?
[02:23] <buu> Speed or rate or something?
[02:23] <wafflejock> kakakal: I also use DropBox (easy intergration everywhere) and Google Docs for collaborating with others to avoid the whole e-mailing documents rigamarol (sp?) and dealing with compatibility issues
[02:23] <kakakal> what if, when your friends doesn't use hangouts, it hardly works on slow internet connections
[02:23] <Skapare> lindar: no one on #ubuntu-jp knows about it?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> kakakal, One argument for open source or linux is it's generally safer, windows can be run safe however I rarely meet someone who is.
[02:23] <lindar> Skapare: I didn't know that was a thing.
[02:24] <Skapare> lindar: give it a try and see if
[02:24] <kakakal> wilee-nilee: libre office starts biting dust when it comes in front of office 2010 or 2013, microsoft has set standards in office
[02:24] <Skapare> lindar: you might need to explain why you cannot talk in Japanese there :)
[02:25] <wafflejock> kakakal: the 2010 office document format is open source the files are just zip files with a bunch of XML inside, I haven't had problems with interoperability with LibreOffice but again I just prefer online collaboration over time wasted e-mailing documents and trying to merge things
[02:26] <kakakal> licensing is the issue, but when people use it for free, (Pirated, why they will move to open source, only one argument, it is better, then we must prove them it is better, whether it is file transfer speed or anything else
[02:26] <darkside_> I'm trying to install the game "Ragnarok Online" but it's not working. I tried several tutorials from the internet, but did not succeed. My system is: Xubuntu 10.13 ... please someone help me.
[02:26] <kakakal> wafflejock: google docs is a good service
[02:26] <trism> lindar: did you add Japanese (Anthy) in the Text Entry settings? it is a new setup in 13.10, I had to add Japanese (mozc) before it worked
[02:27] <cfhowlett> darkside_, get support from the game producers?
[02:27] <kakakal> wafflejock: i am using it only to some extent
[02:27] <lindar> trism: Yes, I did. You see, Anthy actually works in the Unity search bar. I can type Japanese in there, and the shortcut key to switch roma/kana actually works.
[02:27] <lindar> trism: It doesn't work anywhere else, though.
[02:27] <wafflejock> kakakal: yeah I'm lucky in that I'm starting my own thing so I'm not having to deal with all the migration issues you'll  face with moving a windows shop over
[02:28] <Guest1302> hola
[02:28] <cfhowlett> !es|Guest1302,
[02:28] <trism> lindar: strange, not sure then, I haven't tried anthy in 13.10 yet
[02:28] <kdelwat> I've been using 13.10 for a while now and the sound was working fine, however, since using it as a host system to build Linux for Scratch (don't know if it's related) the sound has stopped working completely. I encountered system errors on startup, but now they've disappeared. I've tried force-reloading alsa and removing and reinstalling both alsa and pulseaudio. Does anybody know what the problem could be?
[02:28] <wafflejock> kakakal: google docs has been pretty fantastic though... between that google drive, dropbox, springpad and slimtimer I have a pretty good workflow that is basically all online
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> kakakal, I would agree on documents, I started on linux, however I use word to write my grad papers, as I said they both have their uses. This is a ubuntu support channel, you have another user who consistently does not follow off tropic rules here notice this.
[02:28] <lindar> trism: I'll have to try mozc.
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> topic*
[02:30] <kevin> hey guys. so, i am using my ubuntu desktop workstation as user 'Kevin' but i have another user that i use to share some files over sshfs. since technically that user is logged in, i can't do a normal shutdown as Kevin because another user is logged in, so i have to do it as root. any way around this?
[02:31] <kevin> and by 'normal shutdown', i mean, clicking the upper right corner of the desktop in the panel (i use gnome classic) and choosing 'Shut Down'
[02:31] <Skapare> just logout then shutdown
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> kevin, just logout, they login in the same area right?
[02:32] <darkside_> cfhowlett - actually the official maintainer of this game does not support linux ... 've seen several tutorials but even old users who have had success using the "Wine"
[02:32] <cfhowlett> !wine|darkside_, great! see wine support
[02:33] <itnetsec> darkside:  maybe you should look into using wine then - did you research it at all?
[02:33] <kevin> hmmmmmmm
[02:35] <darkside_> thanks !
[02:36] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee, wafflejock: ok guys it froze again...but this time the screen didnt go grey, it just froze and i couldnt move the mouse or use the keyboard
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> ahh shh kevin, I did not catch that
[02:37] <wafflejock> PDilyard: still have it running right now?
[02:37] <PDilyard> yes
[02:37] <wafflejock> PDilyard: go ahead and try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal
[02:37] <buu> What's the difference between broadcom-source and broadcom-dkms?
[02:38] <wafflejock> PDilyard: more than likel you're going to want to just re-install your DE, might be worth trying to back up your XOrg config though and just regenerate it too to see if it helps
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, is it swapping?
[02:38] <selite> Guys, can someone help me with adding code on github?
[02:39] <selite> This shit is rocket science.
[02:39] <wafflejock> selite: there is a #git channel but whats your problem?
[02:39] <quickdry21> any upstart gurus have thoughts on this? https://gist.github.com/quickdry21/7312841
[02:39] <cfhowlett> !language|selite,
[02:39] <wafflejock> selite: also try to mind the swearing channel rules it's public global and all ages
[02:39] <selite> wafflejock: Well, I have a folder filled with awesome code and I want to push it github. Is there an easy way to do this.
[02:39] <selite> wafflejock: Sorry about that. : (
[02:40] <DareDevil_> Does anybody knows how to fix the issue with ubuntu 12.04 and the retarded network-manager. I cannot connect to the internet because of the stupid error cable unplugged.
[02:40] <DareDevil_> dhclient eth0 does not work
[02:40] <buu> What exactly does broadcom-sta-source even do?
[02:40] <DareDevil_> Uninstall network-manager totally screw up the internet connection
[02:40] <DareDevil_> not even interfaces showing up in the ifconfig command
[02:41] <wafflejock> selite: generally speaking when I've used github.com I'll create the repository remotely check it out then move files into the folder where I checked it out, then add commit and push the changes
[02:41] <PDilyard_> wafflejock, im supposed to login with my normal user and pass in that terminal, right?
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|buu,
[02:41] <wafflejock> PDilyard_: correct
[02:41] <PDilyard> wafflejock, it didnt seem to let me
[02:41] <DareDevil_> Help with the network-manager cable unplugged issue in 12.04 please
[02:41] <PDilyard> maybe num lock turned off somehow
[02:41] <PDilyard> ?
[02:41] <wafflejock> PDilyard: it definitely will if you got user and password right
[02:41] <selite> wafflejock: My god this is so complicated.
[02:41] <selite> wafflejock: Ok, thanks.
[02:42] <PDilyard> wafflejock, ok. and then how can i get out of that terminal once im in?
[02:42] <sam113101> why does ubuntu keep turning off my monitors ;[
[02:42] <wafflejock> selite: recommend you check out http://git-scm.com/book/en/Getting-Started and http://pcottle.github.io/learnGitBranching/
[02:43] <wafflejock> PDilyard: Ctrl+Alt+F7 will get you back to the display that X is using by default
[02:43] <selite> wafflejock: Thank you sir.
[02:43] <buu> cfhowlett: I've read that =[
[02:43] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok, and what would you like me to do in there?
[02:43] <wafflejock> selite: np godspeed
[02:43] <wafflejock> PDilyard: in the terminal you can backup your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf file and make a new one, so you're in there now?
[02:44] <PDilyard> no
[02:44] <cfhowlett> buu, make it easy.  state exactly what issue you'r dealing with.  asking seemingly random, unrelelated questions leads to madmess
[02:44] <PDilyard> im talking to you on the same computer
[02:45] <sam113101> why does ubuntu keep turning off my monitors? ;[
[02:45] <CrazyZurfer> got an update downloaded and the internet went off for a sec, The updates software thinks it was downloaded correctly but it keeps failing in the moment of upgrading, this update is "librhythmbox-core7", anyway to delete that update and download it again?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> sam113101, check your power  settings
[02:45] <sam113101> cfhowlett: they look good
[02:45] <cfhowlett> sam113101, specifically behavior such as "shutdown if inactive for x minutes"
[02:46] <sam113101> it all looks good
[02:46] <PDilyard> wafflejock: brb
[02:46] <sam113101> "turn screen off when inactive for: Never"
[02:46] <lindar> I think I've figured it out maybe, because I'm using mozc and it's still not working. I think the correct fonts aren't installed, and that's why it won't type in terminal/chrome/etc.
[02:46] <cfhowlett> sam113101, so EXTERNAL monitors shutdown?
[02:46] <Skapare> it looks like from many postings found by google, ASUS ROG machines are failing widespread on 13.10 ... I wonder if that means 12.04.3 will not work on it, too
[02:46] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok, what do you want me to do in the terminal. im talking to you on my laptop now
[02:47] <sam113101> cfhowlett: it's a desktop computer, I have two monitors
[02:47] <sam113101> not sure what external means in that context
[02:47] <sam113101> they really turn off, they don't just display a black image
[02:47] <wafflejock> PDilyard: alright so you're going to want to cd /etc/X11/
[02:47] <cfhowlett> sam113101, I've never done the multi-desktop configuration.  Best you ask someone else.
[02:48] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok hang on, i cannot login for some reason
[02:48] <buu> cfhowlett: Sorry, I've been reading wiki pages for a while now. For some reason my wireless connection has dropped down to 24-32mbps, tested via wget. A laptop next to the ubuntu machine gets 500mbps+ on the same network with the same file
[02:48] <PDilyard> i type in my username, press enter, type my password and it says login incorrect :(
[02:49] <wafflejock> PDilyard: did you get the X display back up by rebooting already if so you can do some of this from a terminal emulator instead of from the console here
[02:49] <buu> cfhowlett: The ubuntu machine was happily doing 400mbps+ lastnight then I restarted, it, heh.
[02:49] <cfhowlett> buu, sorry, not something I can address
[02:49] <wafflejock> PDilyard: not sure whats up with login though
[02:49] <sam113101> why am I the only one having issues with 13.10?
[02:49] <buu> =[
[02:49] <wafflejock> sam113101: not true how long have you been in this chat?
[02:49] <PDilyard> wafflejock: yeah, i originally restarted to get the X display back
[02:50] <wafflejock> sam113101: lots of wireless issues I'm hearing... haven't hit upgrade because of it... going to definitely be backing up before upgrading
[02:50] <lindar> trism: I think I don't have the correct fonts installed, because it's doing the exact same thing (types japanese in the unity search bar and nowhere else) with mozc. I think I'm missing a font. Do you know which and how to install it?
[02:51] <wafflejock> PDilyard: okay you can just Ctrl+Alt+T if you're in the X display (Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back there if not) the Ctrl+Alt+T will open a terminal emulator
[02:51] <PDilyard> wafflejock: yep im there and i change dirs into /etc/X11
[02:53] <wafflejock> PDilyard: so you should backup the existing Xorg.conf
[02:53] <wafflejock> cp sudo Xorg.conf Xorg.conf.bak
[02:53] <wafflejock> that came out wrong
[02:53] <wafflejock> sudo cp Xorg.conf Xorg.conf.bak
[02:53] <PDilyard> says no such file
[02:53] <opc0d3> hey guys, i had a server compromised and it had a weak ROOT password.  i was wondering. is it possible for an attacker to ssh root@server.com, get the public key, and then try to do a brute force or dictionary attack offline?  once they find the root pass they reconnect?
[02:54] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|opc0d3,
[02:55] <opc0d3> so, is that a yes or no?
[02:55] <opc0d3> can you do an offline ssh password attack?
[02:55] <quickdry21> opc0d3: If they can access /etc/passwd (which they could, as root)
[02:56] <opc0d3> quickdry21: no, they couldn't get that... just ssh@server.com... theres no way to crack the root pass offline right?
[02:56] <PDilyard> wafflejock: Xorg.conf doesnt exist in /etc/X11 for me
[02:56] <pogiako> hello people ;)
[02:56] <quickdry21> if they can ssh root@server.com, they can scp root@server.com:/etc/passwd /local/file
[02:56] <cfhowlett> pogiako, greetings
[02:56] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah for sure... huh so apparently this is moved... not sure how I haven't seen this recently http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html
[02:56] <pogiako> i come in peace, how about u?
[02:57] <wafflejock> PDilyard: ah wrong link http://askubuntu.com/questions/304091/wheres-the-xorg-conf-d-in-13-04 I'm falling apart over here :)
[02:57] <cfhowlett> pogiako, great.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[02:57] <PDilyard> wafflejock: haha np
[02:57] <kakakal> hi all, i am trying my hand on ureadahead, whether it is actually working or not, how to know that? i put a command
[02:57] <kakakal> ureadahead --force-trace
[02:57] <kakakal> now terminal is not doing anything
[02:57] <PDilyard> wafflejock: i just dont want to kill my brand new ssd
[02:57] <pogiako> nah, just came by to say hi to our beatiful ubuntu people ;)
[02:57] <quickdry21> opc0d3: sorry, it's /etc/shadow, not /etc/passwd, but same concept
[02:58] <opc0d3> quickdry21:  they can't get a shell because they dont know the root password... im wondering if SSH key exchange gives some sort of hash that can be cracked offline to find the root pass?
[02:58] <kakakal> it pops up a message that counted 2 CPUS
[02:58] <kakakal> that 's it and terminal cursor stopped blinking
[02:58] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok, im in /usr/share/X11
[02:59] <quickdry21> opc0d3: how was your server compromised then?
[03:00] <PDilyard> wafflejock: is this a possibility? http://www.howtoeverything.net/linux/hardware/ubuntu-freeze-issue-after-ssd-upgrade
[03:01] <opc0d3> quickdry21: i have no idea.  the database was dropped, and some bitcoin were stolen.  maybe it was an SQL injection or bug in my code ;(
[03:01] <opc0d3> using  FuelPHP
[03:01] <wafflejock> PDilyard: not sure about that... just trying to find some updated instructions for getting the X config now
[03:01] <Nautilus> anyone around that can help with spamassassin setup?
[03:02] <wafflejock> PDilyard: the old way would just be Xorg -configure
[03:02] <wafflejock> PDilyard: you on 13.04 or 13.10?
[03:02] <PDilyard> wafflejock: im on 12.04
[03:02] <wafflejock> PDilyard: ah okay
[03:02] <noagore> Nautilus, go to linode library
[03:03] <PDilyard> wafflejock: i have 7.49 GB of swap, so i dont think thats a problem
[03:04] <quickdry21> opc0d3: to get root access to your server via. ssh, they need a way to access your server via ssh (password or key based authentication), and then root access on the server itself. they could get root access by having ssh allowing root login via. password (so ssh root@example.com), root login via. key (ssh root@example.com w/ them having the privat
[03:04] <quickdry21> e key with a public key allowed in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys) or user login (same method as last) that has access to the root password, or is allowed by sudo
[03:04] <Nautilus> noagore: looks like they just point to http://spamassassin.apache.org/
[03:05] <wafflejock> PDilyard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[03:05] <FukUmist> what is the best Offline dictionary for Ubuntu? Artha isn't that good
[03:05] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah I doubt the SSD thing is your issue, unless you see very similar symptoms I wouldn't assume it's one bug or another, people experience various crashes and performance problems for different reasons (software/hardware combinations)
[03:06] <wafflejock> PDilyard: looks like everyone basically suggests what I passed you on that last link which is basically to do a few things to shutdown X then to run dpkg-reconfigure to setup the X file I guess now... not sure when this changed
[03:07] <CrazyZurfer> got an update downloaded and the internet went off for a sec, The updates software thinks it was downloaded correctly but it keeps failing in the moment of upgrading, this update is "librhythmbox-core7", anyway to delete that update and download it again?
[03:07] <PDilyard> wafflejock: both times its happened i've had Sublime Text and Chrome open in one workspace, Pandora open in another workspace, and Thunderbird and Xchat open in a third workspace
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !best|FukUmist,
[03:07] <PDilyard> wafflejock: so there were several processes running, but none of them heavy
[03:08] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, I believe the command you want sudo apt-get upgrade -f             (-f to force the issue)
[03:08] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah I switched off of Unity because I was having some issues with the desktop not loading up entirely on first login, that was 13.04, I installed KDE side by side with Unity (lots of extra packages) then decided I like it better backed up and went with a fresh kubuntu install
[03:08] <FukUmist> cfhowlett are there any other Offline dictionaries other than Artha, which just seems to be a basic thesaurus
[03:08] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:08] <CrazyZurfer>  /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb
[03:08] <CrazyZurfer> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:09] <wafflejock> also really liked KDE once I checked it out (hadn't looked at it in like 5 years or so)
[03:09] <PDilyard> wafflejock: wait arent these instructions wrong?
[03:09] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: I want the upgrade to download that .deb again
[03:09] <lecoeus> FukUmist: there is sdcv if you are okay with cli
[03:09] <west> yo
[03:09] <wafflejock> PDilyard: they talk about the old config file for backup
[03:09] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: since the one downloaded is corrupted
[03:09] <wafflejock> PDilyard: but I believe dpkg-reconfigure is still likely the way to go
[03:10] <wafflejock> PDilyard: and remainder of instructions are the same for shut down restart
[03:10] <PDilyard> ok
[03:10] <wafflejock> PDilyard: I would probably just backup that x.org.conf folder believe that's everything it's changing or man dpkg-reconfigure
[03:11] <Nautilus> for spamassassin, do I have to config it for each user or is there a way to set it up the same for everyone?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, package name?
[03:11] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, sorry, my scrollback lost it
[03:11] <PDilyard> wafflejock: ok now do i have to install xserver-xorg?
[03:11] <FukUmist> btw, does anyone here have a favorite PDF viewer they would recommend?
[03:12] <wafflejock> PDilyard: you should already have it
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> CrazyZurfer, If you lost the net on the update not instal just run a update in the cli and upgrade
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !poll|FukUmist,
[03:12] <west> how do i sign in with my registered nickname
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> wilee-nilee: doesn't work
[03:12] <cfhowlett> FukUmist, suggest you fire up the software center and search there.  lots of options!
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> wilee-nilee: says that there was an error upgrading
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett:   /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !nick|west,
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> CrazyZurfer, ah the upgrade
[03:12] <PDilyard> wafflejock: it says "Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available...
[03:12] <CrazyZurfer> what happens if I just delete   /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb?'
[03:13] <testing> hello there
[03:13] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, so it's actually a ppa then?
[03:13] <west> thanks ubottu
[03:14] <cfhowlett> !ppa|CrazyZurfer,  BUT if you insist, you could go sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox-core7     then reinstall
[03:14] <testing> I want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.
[03:15] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: okay
[03:15] <kakakal> hi, all, is there any advantage of UEFI on UBUNTU, i am using Ubuntu 32 bit and system is capable of 64 bit but ubuntu 32 bit is more stable than 64 bit. Will i get any performance boost if i install it on UEFI Enabled, right now it is on legacy, i also have win8 installed but there is no efi boot partition on my system, advice??
[03:15] <pero> can i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?
[03:15] <PDilyard> wafflejock: i installed it with apt-get and ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and there was no error but nothing happened either
[03:16] <cfhowlett> kakakal, uefi or legacy have no impact on performance
[03:17] <kakakal> cfhowlett: why they are implemented
[03:17] <wafflejock> PDilyard: basically dpkg-reconfigure is just going to do the same thing as what that package would do during installation but now I'm bewildered as to how it wasn't present and what was being used?
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !uefi|kakakal, !
[03:17] <kakakal> cfhowlett: UEFI is for faster boot on windows , i think
[03:18] <PDilyard> wafflejock: im not sure
[03:18] <testing> I want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.
[03:18] <r000t> Hello. I'm having some issues adding a third monitor using my iGPU when two are already served by my NVIDIA card. I know the iGPU is turned on because Windows uses the third monitor, and because Ubuntu will display the splash, tty, and kernel messages on the 3rd monitor. The X server only displays on the first two.
[03:19] <PDilyard> wafflejock: during the installation, i simply freed up 38 gigs on my ssd and left it unallocated. then i ran the installer and it automatically did everything
[03:19] <x_root> hey, i'll add this line in fstab
[03:19] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah wasn't asking you to answer... but just not sure what's up... unfortunately on Kubuntu 13.04 so things are a bit different on my setup too perhaps try just doing the full DE reinstall
[03:19] <x_root> is this correct? /dev/sda3 /media/x_root/Files auto    defaults,uid=1000,umask=1 1 1
[03:19] <huwanli> rtyuio
[03:19] <x_root> to everyone act as owner of the directory
[03:19] <PDilyard> wafflejock: DE stands for?
[03:20] <wafflejock> wafflejock: honestly not sure if reinstalling the desktop environment (unity) will replace the underlying X server
[03:20] <PDilyard> ah ok
[03:20] <PDilyard> PDilyard: yeah me either
[03:20] <PDilyard> wafflejock: would installing 13.04 or 13.10 make a difference?
[03:21] <PDilyard> or do you think it is just the DE that is causing the crashing
[03:21] <wafflejock> PDilyard: will definitely be different but not sure that it's a better move since 12.04 is LTS, have seen a fair amount of traffic through here of complaints about wifi on 13.10... I'm happy on 13.04 nothing major I've encountered but I have a System76 which is geared towards Linux
[03:22] <wafflejock> PDilyard: between different versions there are different code/program repositories so everything is different (shouldn't be drastic, but sometimes small changes make all the difference)
[03:23] <PDilyard> im on a desktop with an ethernet connection, so if wifi is the only big issue i'd be happier with that
[03:23] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah since you're on a pretty fresh install anyway maybe worth trying getting on the newest and seeing how that works out
[03:23] <JokerSmile> woops
[03:23] <PDilyard> wafflejock: now what would be the best way to uninstall and reinstall?
[03:23] <PDilyard> wafflejock: delete the partition and boot to a live usb?
[03:24] <PDilyard> or is there an option to install on top of the current installation?
[03:24] <wafflejock> PDilyard: well if you're just going to wipe it out and put 13.10 just boot from the install and let it purge the disk when it asks where to install
[03:24] <PDilyard> wafflejock: well i have windows on the same drive
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> JokerSmile, you did it, you registered?
[03:24] <Skapare> so has anyone gotten Ubuntu 13.10 to work on an ASUS ROG?
[03:25] <Skapare> maybe I should give up on wanting to buy that machine
[03:25] <wafflejock> PDilyard: yeah that's fine you can just boot to LiveCD/USB then and wipe the linux partitions leaving windows then re-run the installer
[03:25] <PDilyard> ok
[03:25] <PDilyard> wafflejock: thanks for your help
[03:25] <wafflejock> PDilyard: no problem sorry that was so unproductive, sometimes I hit sometimes I miss
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> Skapare, its the hardware not the machine, look there grasshopper.
[03:26] <JokerSmile> wilee-nilee, I registered before so hopefully thats still my name but I'm trying to identify my self(sign in),
[03:26] <Skapare> well hardware == machine ... if it can't be made to work, then no point buying it ... I'll look for something else
[03:27] <Skapare> any ideas for a high-end high-power laptop hardware that is Ubuntu friendly?
[03:27] <buu> Skapare: mbp?
[03:27] <PDilyard> wafflejock: yeah i always seem to have obscure issues
[03:27] <cfhowlett> Skapare, Dell Sputnik
[03:27] <buu> WHY IS THIS GODDAMN WIRELESS CARD NOT WORKING
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> Skapare, Right, however both are plurals, you have to be specific if you want a real answer.
[03:27] <Skapare> I don't know what 'mbp' means
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !SHOUT!buu,
[03:27] <wafflejock> Skapare: mac book pro
[03:27] <wafflejock> Skapare: I have a System76 and like it
[03:28] <testing> I want to ask question how to grep in order to get only the essid and signal level when i issue the iwlist command.
[03:28] <Skapare> cfhowlett: ok ... but I'll skip that ... Dell is one of the companies I don't do business with
[03:28] <Skapare> wafflejock: a mac book? ??
[03:28] <wafflejock> Skapare: it's what mbp stands for
[03:28] <wafflejock> Skapare: I'm not suggesting it :)
[03:28] <Skapare> wafflejock: OK, didn't catch that
[03:29] <wafflejock> Skapare: not saying they're bad it's just not my thing
[03:29] <buu> testing: which command in specific?
[03:29] <Skapare> wafflejock: OK
[03:29] <JokerSmile> wilee-nilee, oh yeah it did work. but it printed ">NickServ< JokerSmile (and my strate out password)
[03:29] <Skapare> wafflejock: I'm not as anti-Apple as I am anti-Dell and anti-Sony
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> JokerSmile, If you have forgotten any sign in stuff #freenode will send a message to the registered email, if you are still in the system, I would speak with them.
[03:29] <Ari-Yang> [22:27:13] <Skapare> any ideas for a high-end high-power laptop hardware that is Ubuntu friendly? ---> this is an ubuntu technical support channel... your question isn't really technical support question
[03:29] <Ari-Yang> you're better off googling
[03:30]  * Skapare will take a look at System76 and see if their best laptop meets my wants
[03:30] <JokerSmile> wilee-nilee, then on next line NickServ "Invalid command. use .... lalalal for help
[03:30] <Skapare> Ari-Yang: BTDT ... need PEOPLE's experience
[03:30] <JokerSmile> wilee-nilee, but it worked so i guess nothings wrong then.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:31] <Skapare> Ari-Yang: but IMHO, finding hardware that matches software is a technical issue
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> Skapare: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CD8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu.com%2Fcertification%2F&ei=bmZ4UpGlIKnMsQSav4CoBA&usg=AFQjCNH8GnqTak1gQTBkYbSKie0zc_g8IA&bvm=bv.55980276,bs.1,d.dmg
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> wups
[03:31] <lindar> >_< I'm going to bite Ubuntu. I've installed both Anthy and mozc and reinstalled ibus a billion times, but I can only write Japanese characters in Unity's search bar and not anywhere else. It always comes out in roman characters.
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> Skapare: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> Skapare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13920/best-hardware-for-a-ubuntu-computer
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> all that found in google
[03:31] <Ari-Yang> :|
[03:32] <wafflejock> Skapare: yeah you may get more social feedback going to ubuntu-offtopic as well
[03:32] <wafflejock> Skapare: people try to keep this room open to technical support issues
[03:32] <Skapare> Ari-Yang: seen that ... but I'm looking for a laptop
[03:32] <Skapare> wafflejock: OK
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> !manual | lindar
[03:33] <pogiako> how is 13.10 guys?
[03:34] <Skapare> lindar: no one on #ubuntu-jp knew how to make Japanese work?
[03:34] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: purged and tried to install it again and send same error as always.. and didn't download anything says that needs to download 0/812kb ... so It keeps trying to install the corrupted deb
[03:34] <lindar> Skapare: Nobody in #ubuntu-jp knew how to exist and type in the channel. =/
[03:34] <Skapare> oh
[03:34] <pogiako> am still on 13.04, scared that i might have to reinstall 13.04 coz last time i installed it it gave me probs regarding my graphics card
[03:34] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, if you PURGED and it's still reported as corrupted, it is corrupted.
[03:34] <lindar> pogiako: Great unless you need to type in an Asian language. Video support is fine too, even though I had to reinstall the fglrx drivers.
[03:35] <wafflejock> pogiako: back up Clonezilla dd and/or rsync are your friends
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> lindar, I can't imagine what you want is all that difficult, I can't say I have seen you detail it out either.
[03:35] <pogiako> so which is more stable, 13.04 or 13.10?
[03:35] <lindar> wilee-nilee: I'm not asking *how to add* Japanese language support. I already know how it works. I'm saying it isn't working properly.
[03:35] <pogiako> i'd go for the stable one
[03:36] <Skapare> wilee-nilee: he needs the ability to input Japanese in all places ... maybe he'd be better off finding some Ubuntu based distro specifically for Japanese
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> that lacks any real detail
[03:36] <wafflejock> pogiako: 12.04 is LTS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[03:36] <lindar> >.>
[03:36] <pogiako> can i have all the features that i have right now on 12.04?
[03:36] <Skapare> lindar: but this is something that works OK in an earlier version of Ubuntu?
[03:37] <Skapare> lindar: have you tried 12.04 LTS?
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> pogiako: lts has longer support, but may have stale software packaged... non-lts has new features and updates software packaged
[03:37] <wafflejock> pogiako: totally depends on what features you use... different repositories for different versions of ubuntu have different packages available
[03:37] <lindar> Skapare / wilee-nilee : Please read very carefully. I had Japanese input on 13.04 working fine. I upgraded to 13.10 and now it isn't. If I click on the button at the top left of the unity task bar, which opens up a file search menu for programs and files on the machine, I can type Japanese there. With the Japanese input still on I cannot type Japanese in any other input.
[03:38] <wafflejock> pogiako: basically it's a toss up between stability and cutting edge... but 12.04 will be supported security wise for longer
[03:38] <pogiako> aw man, thats knda sad coz its old :(
[03:38] <wafflejock> april 2012
[03:38] <pogiako> huh?
[03:38] <wafflejock> 12.04 stands for 2012 04 (april) it's not that old
[03:38] <wafflejock> 14.04 will be the next LTS
[03:39] <Skapare> lindar: yeah, you explained that before ... probably broken software since you know how to set it up ... or broken software packaging ... I *am* suggesting running an earlier version until they can fix it
[03:39] <wafflejock> !lts | pogiako
[03:39] <lindar> pogiako: Just wait for the next LTS and stick with 13.04 or go crazy and get 13.10 and deal with the consequences. There's some new shiny stuff.
[03:39] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox-core7 --> not this says Package 'librhythmbox-core7' is not installed, so not removed -- Then sudo apt-get install librhythmbox-core7' should do the work....  Se encontraron errores al procesar:  /var/cache/apt/archives/librhythmbox-core7_3.0.1-0~13.10~ppa1_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <scriptThis> Anyone know why this custom "add to panel" woun't open in the specified dir? (it just opens terminal at my base home dir not the full path I specify) gnome-terminal --working-directory=~/path/to/dir
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> pogiako: if you don't want 12.04 cuz the packaged software is old, I recommend you get 12.10... That expires april 2014, or you can get 13.04 but that expires really soon (next two months I think)
[03:42] <awktion> o:
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> scriptThis, What desktop what release?
[03:42] <scriptThis> Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> scriptThis, gnome 3 the fallbac\k or the shell
[03:43] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, tweak the command: sudo apt-get purge librhythmbox
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> fallback*
[03:43] <scriptThis> wilee-nilee, I'm not sure?
[03:43] <wafflejock> pogiako: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> scriptThis, in the fallback you just use the alt key to add and remove I'm not sure there is a dir.
[03:44] <JokerSmile> can i be signed in with this nick on Ubuntu and my android irc client
[03:44] <cfhowlett> JokerSmile, 1 login at a time
[03:44] <scriptThis> I can't "alt drag" the terminal window to the top panel though
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> JokerSmile, not at the same time register like JokerSmile1 as another with it.
[03:45] <JokerSmile> cool thanks
[03:45] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: E: No se ha podido localizar el paquete librhythmbox --> that means like.. couldn't locate the packages librhythmbox
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> JokerSmile, More than one at a time is not really acceptable is all.
[03:46] <Lyx925> hello
[03:47] <wafflejock> Hello Lyx925
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> scriptThis, I have not used the fallback, I would look on the web for adding stuff.
[03:48] <scriptThis> Finally got it:  gnome-terminal --working-directory /home/name/path/to/folder
[03:48] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, my last brilliant idea: spring cleaning.  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean     THEN run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> scriptThis, you know ctrl-alt-t is a terminal load
[03:51] <scriptThis> wilee-nilee, right, but that takes you by default to home, I wanted something that goes to a specific directory
[03:53] <wilee-nilee> hehe not quiet but nice try, see yah as you are gone.
[03:53] <testing> hello there can someone help me how to fix my problem it is right here. http://pastebin.com/c01UX1B8
[03:54] <andross> exit
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:56] <KillBiebs> Question, how do I disable the magazines/books from coming up in the software center?
[03:57] <Guest52101> how do i access the boot menu for an acer aspire V5.  F12 hasn't worked. changing bios didn't either for some reason
[03:57] <Emanon> So I'm running an encrypted 13.04 installation. Upon boot the encryption key prompt is in CLI. What do I have to install/change to make it use the GUItastic graphical decryption prompt?
[03:57] <Emanon> 13.10 Sorry.
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Guest52101: try the ##hardware channel mate
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> KillBiebs: not sure sugestions like that can be disabled, do they really bother you?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Guest52101, ask #acer
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> KillBiebs, I doubt you can all of them.
[03:59] <KillBiebs> hah yeah, it does ;\
[03:59] <CrazyZurfer> cfhowlett: seems to work, but didn't install the update... I actually don't care about that update, just didn't wanted to have errors, thanks!
[03:59] <Guest52101> cfhowlett: no one is in that channel
[04:00] <pero> can i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Guest52101: try a few, F2, DEL
[04:00] <BradTN> any mdadm experts around?
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> KillBiebs, I never use the software center myself just the cli.
[04:00] <thx1138_> i need to install an nvidia driver for a geforce 6200...what's the difference / advantages of installing nvidia-304 vs nvidia-304-updates vs the nvidia install run file from nvidia's website?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> BradTN: ask your issue in channel mate
[04:01] <Emanon> I'm somewhat familiar with it BradTN what do you need?
[04:01] <BradTN> my issue is this raid isnt working
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> !raid | BradTN
[04:01] <BradTN> and i need someone who knows what they are doing to take a look plz
[04:01] <KillBiebs> cli as in apt-get? I'm brand new to Ubuntu so I have to use software center to see what kind of apps are available. I don't even know what I want yet ;)
[04:01] <BradTN> thx.. ive read and tried all this stuff thanks
[04:01] <Emanon> Perhaps if you gave some less ambiguous descriptions of your issue someone could help you BradTN.
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> KillBiebs: what packages do you need? we might be able to find your right software
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> KillBiebs, Yeah the terminal, I can see the dilemma.
[04:02] <BradTN> the raid has been created and mounted but gives no permissions to be wrote to at all
[04:02] <BradTN> ive tried all commands found online for fstab
[04:02] <BradTN> mdadm.conf
[04:02] <BradTN> nothign works
[04:02] <KillBiebs> oh I don't know lotus, I just installed ubuntu 2 weeks ago so I am finding solutions to all of my small issues hah
[04:02] <Emanon> BradTN: Enter is not punctuation.
[04:03] <jazz> hi y'all!
[04:03] <jazz> so i'm getting some pretty serious screen tearing when mirroring to my HDTV in ubuntu
[04:04] <jazz> screen tearing is only on PC monitor though
[04:04] <jazz> not HDTV
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> jazz: are you using xrandr?
[04:04] <jazz> non-free AMD drivers enabled, clnfigured through AMD control center
[04:04] <Emanon> Are you creating a raid during initial installation or on an existing install BradTN?
[04:04] <jazz> no idea what that is :)
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | jazz
[04:05] <jazz> ouuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[04:05] <BradTN> existing install.
[04:05]  * jazz checks it out
[04:05] <BradTN> raid not apart of the OS at all.
[04:06] <jazz> Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:06] <jazz> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:06] <jazz> is only available from another source
[04:06] <jazz> However the following packages replace it:
[04:06] <jazz>   x11-xserver-utils
[04:06] <FloodBot1> jazz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:06] <jazz> sorry flootbot
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> jazz: man xrandr
[04:06] <jazz> man?
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> jazz: open a terminal and type: man xrandr
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> manual
[04:07] <jazz> ah, right
[04:07] <jazz> so... what am i looking for
[04:07] <jazz> by the way, i cheated, i'm using debian
[04:07] <jazz> but the folks in #debian aren't being very helpful
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> jazz: this is an ubuntu channel ofcourse
[04:07]  * jazz nods
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> off with your head here. ;)
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:08] <jazz> i hope that's all right
[04:08] <jazz> i could really use the help
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> jazz: lucky for you we pointed you in the right direction already
[04:08] <jazz> no screen tearing when i unoplug the HDMI and don't mirror
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> jazz: but support ends here and goodle will be your xrandr friend
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> and google also
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> As a jazz musician I call Giant Steps to #debian
[04:10] <Emanon> So presumably you're building your array via CLI correct BradTN?
[04:12] <BradTN> yes
[04:13] <Emanon> BradTN: You might consider using LVM rather than RAID, it's more flexible and easier to configure providing most of the same functionality as the kind of software RAID you are trying to create. The package system-config-lvm provides a graphical tool by which to create and manage them. You might check it out before you continue.
[04:16] <Emanon> BradTN: In my experience it's MUCH easier to create and manage Volume Groups and Logical Volumes than Arrays so that could be a better option for you.
[04:16] <BradTN> hows its redundancy and performance?
[04:17] <BradTN> mainly this is suppose to be storage for media to be streamed throughout house
[04:17] <niftylettuce> can anyone here make sense of what this means/does and how i can get it to work on my end with the TrustZone stuff?  http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
[04:18] <Emanon> You can set striping and (if I'm not mistaken) parity as you wish to replicate the functionality of popular RAID levels and though there may be some performance difference between LVM and RAID (I don't know if there is) I've never observed one.
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> niftylettuce, This a ubuntu-touch issue?
[04:18] <niftylettuce> wilee-nilee: sort of, i am trying to get passed motorola's bootloader
[04:19] <niftylettuce> wilee-nilee: apparently this guy figured it out by using a dev device and running through the Motorola Unlock Program -- he reverse engineered
[04:19] <niftylettuce> wilee-nilee: i can't make sense of how to replicate his results and backdoor it
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> niftylettuce, YOu would want #ubuntu-touch for it and the desktop installs
[04:22] <Emanon> In addition BradTN, LVM allows you to easily add to, remove from, resize and restructure your arrays while they are still running. So you can further reduce downtime while still allowing expansion or repair without any command line work.
[04:25] <Emanon> I'm running full encryption on 13.10 and the prompt for my encryption key is presented via CLI rather than the usual graphical mode. How do I fix this?
[04:32] <Skapare> system76.com rejected my email ... no such address as sales@system76.com ... guess they lose my business
[04:33] <localhp_> hello
[04:33] <ianorlin> !hi
[04:33] <localhp_> hi ok u see me
[04:34] <localhp_> whaaatup
[04:34] <ianorlin> how can I help?
[04:35] <localhp_> ianorlin have some wine issues. i trade stocks , but do not care for microsoft so have switch to ubuntu
[04:35] <localhp_> have wine up and installed tda thinkorswim.exe and ran it but cannot find where wine is putting my installations
[04:36] <localhp_> i go to applications and c: program files x 86 bla and nothing
[04:36] <cfhowlett> localhp_, hidden folder in /home .wine
[04:37] <localhp_> also tried the cntl h thing too
[04:37] <localhp_> nothing
[04:38] <localhp_> crapppppp
[04:38] <Omen_20> Does anyone have a clue as to why the shortcut keys were changed for moving windows one workspace up/down? Left and right were kept the same for 13.10
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> tax reasons
[04:39] <quinnwizard> anyone know if the wlan erratic blinking problem been fixed in the newest distro 13.10 desktop?
[04:40] <localhp_> OK IS THERE A ROOM FOR WINE CONFIGURATION
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !wine|localhp_,
[04:40] <localhp_> please folks
[04:40] <Skapare> wow ... 10 captchas in a row on login.ubuntu.com are completely unreadable
[04:42] <localhp_> ubottu thanks man i just wanted a quick fix... guess ill just dual boot and trade in windows becouse this one is a conundrum dichotomy. Thankyou for the help
[04:42] <Emanon> Sorry about dropping out, I crashed. Did I miss anything BradTN?
[04:43] <localhp_> cfhowlett thanks
[04:45] <cfhowlett> localhp_, good luck to you.
[04:45] <thx1138_> i'm trying to install an nvidia driver but i got this message, even though i have linux-source installed: Building for architecture i686
[04:45] <thx1138_> Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[04:45] <thx1138_> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[04:45] <quinnwizard> what is with the dl speed from ubuntu?  I'm maxing out at 60 kb/s.
[04:47] <quinnwizard> there we go, now I am getting dl of 3 mb/s
[04:49] <cfhowlett> !torrent|quinnwizard, you're downling the ISO?  Please use torrent instead.  usually faster and lightens the load on the servers.  PLUS torrent seems to do a better job of integrity checking the download in progress
[04:49] <quinnwizard> thanks cfhowlett, switching over now.
[04:49] <cfhowlett> :)
[04:50] <cfhowlett> quinnwizard, don't forget to md5sum check once you get the download
[04:50] <quinnwizard> cfhowlett, yeah i learned to do that the hard way a few upgrades ago.
[04:53] <pero> can i "control" a chromium web app from the terminal? can i specify the command line parameters for the launch of just that specific chromium instance?
[04:54] <ianorlin> they are not well documented but there are some in man chromium-browser|pero
[04:54] <pero> yeah, but where do i put them, ianorlin
[04:59] <leif_> is there a irc channel for people into coding
[05:00] <ianorlin> I am not sure but you can launch chromium browser through them
[05:02] <Oddity> lecoeus, I'm sure there's many. You could try ##programming or some language-specific channels on this network.
[05:03] <leif_> ok thanks
[05:03] <admin1> hi
[05:03] <admin1> hey
[05:03] <webraik> alguien me ayufa
[05:04] <admin1> hello
[05:04] <webraik> TENGO UN PROBLEMA COON MI UBUTNU 13.10
[05:05] <ianorlin> !es
[05:05] <webraik> ok gracias
[05:07] <webraik> COMO LO HAGO UBOTTU
[05:17] <testing> hello there can someone help me how to use grep in this problem given . http://pastebin.com/c01UX1B8
[05:33] <Paulus68_1> test
[05:33] <trupheenix> hello
[05:33]  * Paulus68_1 thought I was all by myself :)
[05:34] <ObrienDave> you are ;)
[05:34] <trupheenix> is anyone here who can help me setup postfix? I seem to be failing on setting up saslauthd for authentication. It's unlcear to me how to setup the correct path to find saslauthd
[05:36] <Paulus68_1> ObrienDave: nah I 'm surrounded by nice support people of ubuntu but since I didn't get a refresh in the channel for about 5 mins I was getting scared that everybody run out of me
[05:36] <cyruscloud> hello?
[05:37]  * xmetal thinks if i am all alone in this room that probably means some MS user broke the entire internet 
[05:37] <Hempathy> G'day peeps, I hate to say this but I'm looking for help with Unity :)
[05:37] <xmetal> :P
[05:37] <ObrienDave> Paulus68_1 we try to scare off the trolls that way ;)
[05:37] <Hempathy> Am I ok to shout out questions here?
[05:37] <FreezingCold> How does Debian and Ubuntu's kernel differ?
[05:37] <xmetal> i have to say the more i use uniity, the more i like it ... not my favorite DE,... but its not 1/2 bad
[05:37] <xmetal> i hated it at first
[05:38] <Hempathy> I've installed Gnome and can no longer see my mouse cursor in Unity, any ideas?
[05:38] <corvolino> xmetal, the BRASnet?
[05:39] <trupheenix> does anyone here know how to get postfix working with sasl authentication on ubuntu?
[05:39]  * Paulus68_1 is not a troll *tapping feet on the floor* at least not when I looked in the mirror today :p
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, You have any other mouse to try?
[05:39] <jotterbot1234> testing: cat testfile.txt | egrep -o "(Signal level.......|ESSID......)"
[05:39] <jotterbot1234> testing: something like that?
[05:40] <Hempathy> mouse works fine in Gnome, win7, and VM... and did untill the Gnome install
[05:40] <webraik> I HAVE PROBLM WITH USING THE LETER ENE IN LATIN
[05:40] <Paulus68_1> !caps
[05:40] <xmetal> hmm i was looking at ps/2 to usb (to use ps2 mice i have lying around in PC's without PS/2 ports) .. saw a few for between $2 and 3 bucks ... but to be honest i think it'd be better just looking at a new logitech mouse
[05:40] <trupheenix> I keep getting this error when trying to use postfix with saslauthd. warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, you say it worked in gnome in the last post then not, how did you install gnome, this the shell?
[05:42] <Hempathy> sorry my bad grammer
[05:42] <jotterbot1234> testing: Or more specifically: cat testfile.txt | egrep -o "(Signal level.......|ESSID......)" | sed s'/:/=/'g | cut -d "=" -f2
[05:42] <Hempathy> after installing Gnome, I can no longer see the mouse cursor in Unity :)
[05:42] <Hempathy> Gnome all good
[05:43] <Guest52101> anyone familiar with booting a usb stick of mint on an acer aspire V5?  can't get to the boot menu and bios changes didn't affect startup going straight to winders
[05:43] <xmetal> hmm i am not even sure which DE is "gnome" on the OS i use
[05:43] <Guest52101> here is a link to the issue i'm having:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2142786
[05:43] <xmetal> !mint
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, No biggie, what gnome, there is the shell and the fallback, neither should cause a loss of the cursor theoretically, what release?
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest52101, Find the per-session boot prompt
[05:44] <Hempathy> Thanks for your help wilee-nilee, how would i find the release *blush*
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, lsb_release -a
[05:44] <Hempathy> BTW I'm using an ATI graphics card if that helps
[05:45] <jono> folks, this might be off-topic, but I am having a fund-raise (I work as the Ubuntu Community Manager) - Creative Commons music to support WaterAid -http://www.gofundme.com/rockforwater
[05:45] <Hempathy> Afrais that doesn't mention Gnome, just 13.10
[05:45] <joossee> dfgfdg
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, 13.10?
[05:46] <Hempathy> Yeah Saucy
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, do a ctrl-alt-t and run these reset commands and see if this fixes it, you may need to reboot afterwards. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> just a guess, but one never knows
[05:48] <Hempathy> thanks for your time & help I'll give it a try :)
[05:49] <amita> Hello to anyone!
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, cool you can run sudo reboot at the end.
 Nice work
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, That work?
[05:51] <Hempathy> even before rbooting I'm back in a working Unity
[05:51] <ObrienDave> another happy customer :)
[05:52] <Hempathy> wish I hadn't reset my icons though :)
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, cool baby in the words of mike myers funky character I forget the name to.
[05:52] <ObrienDave> LOL no good deed goes un-punished ;)
[05:52] <Hempathy> Austin Powers baby!
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, Yeah, messing with unity can be a learning experience, of yeah Austin Powers.
[05:53] <Hempathy> Thanks heaps
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> I like the mini me
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[05:54] <Hempathy> How do I burn Amazon completely from Ubuntu?
[05:54] <joossee> what is the best vm host or server software to runon ubuntu?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, logout.  choose a different desktop.  login.  no unity   OR
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !nounit
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !nounity
[05:54] <cfhowlett> OR use lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu
[05:55] <Skapare> what does "investigate" mean in that?
[05:55] <cyruscloud> I'm having problems using Skype and Google Plus. People can barely hear me. Is there a way I can fix this?
[05:56] <joossee> can someone help me with the glorious task of getting my video working? I can get to CLI by editing grub but cant get video to work.. tries the fixes card is firemv 2250...?
[05:56] <Hempathy> rebooting - thanks agian for your help wilee
[05:56] <cfhowlett> cyruscloud, google plus has a chat function now - use that insated
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> Hempathy, You can remove those links like amazon I forget their name I switched to the shell way back, someone here knows.
[05:56] <cyruscloud> For video calls
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> joossee, You have X?
[05:58] <joossee> wilee-nilee, no GUI watsoever
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> joossee, All cli I'm not sure
[05:58] <joossee> 12.04
[05:58] <joossee> ya i know right? all the forums tell me to install the driver thru gui
[05:58] <joossee> i cant seem to get it working
[05:59] <joossee> i just ran "apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-all" and everything comeplted successfully but no dice .. after grub just a blackscreen
[06:00] <Hempathy> haha me again
[06:00] <Hempathy> :)
[06:00] <Hempathy> I've booted into Unity, looking good, but stil no mouse cursor?
[06:00] <joossee> i fixed the blackscreenby using nomodeset in grub and can get to CLI
[06:00] <cyruscloud> I'm trying to use google plus and/or Skype for video calling, but the other person's having problems hearing me. Any idea what I can do?
[06:01] <Foxhoundz> add-apt-repository: command not found
[06:01] <Foxhoundz> what gives?
[06:01] <Hempathy> Icons react when i  'mouse over'... but no arrow to see
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> Foxhoundz, That's for adding ppa's
[06:01] <Foxhoundz> I know
[06:02] <Foxhoundz> I'm wondering why the command is not presnet
[06:02] <Guest3815> Where can I download ZHackers ebook for free
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> Foxhoundz, what release?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !hack|Guest3815, we don't know and why ask here.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !hacker
[06:02] <Foxhoundz> wilee-nilee, 12.04, precise
[06:03] <Foxhoundz> LTS
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> Foxhoundz, you use sudo as in, sudo add-apt-repository ppa
[06:03] <ObrienDave> Hempathy try a different cursor scheme
[06:03] <Guest3815> ZHackers is a comic book on Zombies and Hackers
[06:04] <Hempathy> oooh how would one set that up?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> Guest3815, ??? pretty completely unrelated to the channel topic, yes?
[06:04] <cfhowlett> !topic
[06:04] <ObrienDave> Hempathy don't remember. I use Xubuntu ;)
[06:05] <Hempathy> may have to ;)
[06:05] <Paulus68_1> !offtopic| Guest3815
[06:05] <Hempathy> what do you think are the benefits?
[06:05] <Hempathy> and how do I direct coments to a user?... sorry for n00b Q's
[06:06] <ianorlin> mention there name and it will highlight them
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> !tab | Hempathy
[06:06] <ObrienDave> Hempathy type their name in the line. use tab to auto-complete
[06:06] <Guest3815> ok then tell me how to start Internet pass-through for htc android phones in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[06:06] <Hempathy> wi!
[06:07] <Hempathy> wilee-nilee, ahhh
[06:07] <ObrienDave> Guest3815 that is an Android setting
[06:07] <cfhowlett> !tether|Guest3815,
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> you got it Hempathy
[06:07] <Hempathy> :)
[06:07] <joossee> how do i find out my xorg version?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> Guest3815, read your * user manual
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> joossee, You have a end goal? like a gui, a desktop?
[06:08] <Guest3815> No for windows there is htc sync software available but not for Ubuntu
[06:08] <joossee> wilee-nilee, yes GUI!!
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> joossee, What did you install so far, was it the server?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> Guest3815, airdroid works nicely
[06:08] <ObrienDave> Guest3815 start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php
[06:08] <joossee> ubuntu server 64
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> joossee, What desktop do you fancy?
[06:09] <joossee> wilee-nilee, hrmm no preference. was hoping for the default ... ?
[06:09] <Hempathy> Still missing mouse cursor in Unity.. frustrating as I've just got past my love hate with the UI
[06:09] <ObrienDave> Unity PFFFFFT
[06:09] <joossee> Gnome is it? (i usually run lubuntu)
[06:09] <wilee-nilee> joossee, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is the unity dektop
[06:10] <joossee> ok doing it now
[06:10] <joossee> oh an additional 1.2gbs\
[06:10] <wilee-nilee> joossee, yeah
[06:11] <joossee> wilee-nilee, no biggie just being facetious
[06:11] <joossee> 2,362 kbps over wireless. i love 2013
[06:11] <wilee-nilee> joossee, There are lighter desktops, generally as they get lighter they are more config adjusted to tweak.
[06:12] <joossee> wilee-nilee, is there a light one you like? lxde any good?
[06:12] <ObrienDave> joossee, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop would be my favorite ;)
[06:12]  * ianorlin thinks lxde is good
[06:12] <ObrienDave> XFCE
[06:12] <testing> hello there can someone help me how to use grep in order to get only the signal level and ESSSID when issuing iwlist command ? thanks.
[06:12] <joossee> yes my friends who run arch say that as well
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> joossee, lxde or lubuntu are nice, but xfce xubuntu are as well.
[06:12] <ObrienDave> ok, ok, not trying to start a DE war here ;)
[06:13] <joossee> ok i will try out ubuntu first
[06:13] <joossee> but i think my real problem is my video driver
[06:13] <joossee> but just so were clear: ubuntu server does NOT install a window manager?
[06:13] <lindar> Hey it's me again yay. So it seems like I have to force everything to use iBus by right clicking and going to "select input method". iBus seems to work just fine and xim(??) is the problem. How do I remove the Ubuntu default input manager and use iBus as the default?
[06:14] <joossee> my god this machine is peppy
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> joossee, install the desktop the ubuntu-restricted-extras for flash, codecs, and the ms fonts if you want them.
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> then*
[06:15] <joossee> f*ck libreoffice!
[06:15] <cfhowlett> !language|joossee,
[06:15] <ObrienDave> loves libreoffice
[06:15] <joossee> aw shucks sorry
[06:16] <joossee> do any of you guys use vm's on ubuntu?
[06:16] <ObrienDave> Vbox
[06:16] <joossee> ObrienDave, is that the best one?
[06:16] <ObrienDave> to each their own
[06:16] <ianorlin> !best
[06:16] <joossee> omfg bot i know that
[06:16] <xmetal> i dont get the people who say how "complicate" of a change going from MS to Libre office is ... i mean (I only have MS office 2013 cause i got it at a yard sale) there are probably differences... but i mean a spreedsheet is a spreedsheet
[06:16] <joossee> its just subjective
[06:16] <xmetal> oops
[06:16] <xmetal> 2003 *
[06:17] <xmetal> or "Office xp" i guess its called .
[06:17] <joossee> i am new to vms but have this honking server so i have newb questions
[06:17] <ianorlin> server doesn't come with gui by default
[06:17] <kakakal> hi all, i have a very solid query, my sound is working fine in ubuntu but it is not good as windows, i mean in sweetness, clarity, i can directly distinguish between the two, windows music is great to listen but here it causes some irritation, tried the same in rhythmbox and vlc, no good effect seen, i also used equalizer but not as good as windows music, sweet and clear, how to improve that
[06:17] <wilee-nilee>  best discussions run on  and on and on and on, best stopped in their tracks
[06:17] <joossee> figured that... is openvm really open?
[06:18] <joossee> ok finished installing ubuntu desktop. just a reboot then?
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> joossee, probably easiest yeah.
[06:19] <lindar> kakakal: as an audio engineer, I have no idea what "sweetness" means from a technical standpoint.
[06:19] <joossee> xenserver is that free?
[06:19] <ObrienDave> is jealous of joossee connection speed ;(
[06:19] <lindar> kakakal: Could you use more technical speech and less artsy description?
[06:19] <joossee> lol
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> As long as one compares OS's it is a waste of time.
[06:19] <joossee> 45$ A MONTH 25/10
[06:19] <kakakal> lindar: sweetness means, that people love to hear,
[06:19] <ObrienDave> lives WAY out in the sticks. DSL :(
[06:19] <joossee> tplink wdn4800 wireless card
[06:20] <kakakal> lindar: i am not an audio engineer, i can say less noise, better bass effect n all
[06:20] <xmetal> i just happen to likely .. .a mintier OS
[06:20]  * xmetal ducks
[06:20] <cfhowlett> kakakal, again: subjective.  you're accustomed to your pre-sets on windows media.  It's possible to do the same in linux but those SAME pre-sets do not exist.  make your own
[06:20] <lindar> kakakal: Yes, but subjective terms don't do anything for technical problems. It could just be your imagination. Have you tried using EQ?
[06:20] <GeekDude> Sometimes when I say "exit" over SSH, it replies "logout" and hangs. I assume this is because I left my browser connected via proxy? How do I fix it? I remove the browser post-issue, but it still just hangs
[06:20] <kakakal> yes, i used equalizer, built in the vlc
[06:20] <joossee> grrrr installing ubuntu desktop didnt fix my blackscreen issue... i mentioned that i have to use nomodeset to get to CLI...?
[06:20] <kakakal> veromix in the KDE environment
[06:21] <ObrienDave> throws more trout at xmetal
[06:21] <kakakal> and A plugin from third party source in rhythmbox
[06:21] <lindar> joossee: What kind of video card?
[06:21] <joossee> firemv 2250
[06:21] <kakakal> none of them served my purpose well
[06:21] <lindar> kakakal: Okay. Cool story, bro. You're not being very helpful.
[06:21] <lindar> joossee: ATI?
[06:21] <joossee> lindar, there is a link here explaing problem with newer xorgs sez to run 7.0
[06:21] <joossee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1091380
[06:21] <joossee> AMD nee ATI, my friend :)
[06:22] <joossee> so im wondering if i can revert to xorg 7.0 ?
[06:22] <joossee> on 12.04
[06:22] <lindar> joossee: Had almost the same problem. Just a black screen, possibly with a blinky dot? I had to root console and force install the closed drivers because the open ones wouldn't allow it to run.
[06:22] <kakakal> lindar: i haven't created any story, this is true
[06:22] <joossee> lindar, thats what i need to do i think!! but no idea how to
[06:22] <kakakal> the same hardware, same volume level, and the same song
[06:23] <kakakal> but sound produced by windows is better
[06:23] <lindar> kakakal: Okay, I believe you. It doesn't sound as good on Ubuntu. You're also not giving us any helpful information. Vague subjective terms don't help troubleshoot technical problems.
[06:23] <kakakal> so what type of technical information you need
[06:24]  * cfhowlett ... grabs a bowl of popcorn and some napkins, proceeds to watch
[06:24] <xmetal> !details
[06:24] <lindar> joossee: You'll have to go into recovery from grub, load up root console, and manually install fglrx-updates.
[06:24] <joossee> OH FUDGE COOKIES
[06:24] <joossee> IT KINDA WORKED ALL OF A SUDDEN!!!\\
[06:24] <joossee> i have one screen on with gui!!!
[06:24] <cfhowlett> !caps|joossee,
[06:24] <kakakal> i am using pulse audio, i used equalizer in vlc, tried to change bass levels, tried some presets like rock, home, soft, techno, bass etc, but not equal to windows
[06:24] <joossee> yayayayayay!
[06:25] <xmetal> hmm
[06:25] <joossee> ok lemme see if i can get drivers installed the proper way
[06:25] <andry> anyone uses google chrome? if yes, what is your ~/.xsession-errors file size?
[06:25] <kermyt> kakakal, so why not just use windows?
[06:25] <lindar> kakakal: Actual technical information. "The bitrate is lower." or "The EQ is different." or anything helpful like that. If it's just that the EQ presets don't sound the same, copy them over or something...
[06:26] <xmetal> i tried the pulse audio equalizer in the latest version of the distro i use but it doesn't work it seems ... was fine in the version prior
[06:26] <joossee> ok wow this gui is very different
[06:26] <ObrienDave> much more fun th complain about a FREE OS than try to adjust it properly LMAO
[06:26] <ObrienDave> *to
[06:27] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, are you speaking *sputter* LOGIC?
[06:27] <ObrienDave> that would be WAY to easy ;))
[06:27] <xmetal> logic? .. what in the world is that?
[06:28] <joossee> so lindar i just go to additional hardware?
[06:28] <lindar> xmetal: It's a program hipsters use to make music on overpriced computers.
[06:28] <cfhowlett> lindar, okay, that got a laugh.  Good one.
[06:28] <ObrienDave> I could say to kakakal that windows is DESIGNED to be IDIOT proof. but, that would not be very nice
[06:28] <xmetal> oh ... is there a place where i can download this logic?
[06:29] <xmetal> :P
[06:29] <lindar> ObrienDave: It's also not true. It's genius-proof. I can't figure out how to get it to do anything.
[06:29] <ObrienDave> LOL
[06:29] <lindar> ::cool_guy::
[06:29] <kakakal> lindar: i am not an audio engineer and i told you what i know from a general user point of view, and kermyt , this is what linux is all about? to shift to windows? because of some sound problem, there are many issues still need to be resolved by linux community, if they are not resolved, why the normal user will shift to linux, when one can get a fully functional copy(Pirated windows) for free, via torrent or whatsoever, if a user is aware enough, his/her syste
[06:30] <kakakal> ObrienDave: idiot proof, AND linux is GEEK PROOF :D
[06:30] <kakakal> but more than 85% people in the world are using windows, because they are idiots???
[06:30] <kermyt> geek proof? my friend you are not the neckbeard you think you are.
[06:30] <lindar> kakakal: Okay, and your English skills are very poor, so you're not adequately communicating your problem. Windows sounds better and you can't explain what the difference is.
[06:31] <lindar> kakakal: We're not refusing to help you, it's just that you're not doing anything to actually allow us to help you. You're telling us it's broken, but you haven't told us anything else, and we can't help you without more information. Be more descriptive.
[06:31] <xmetal> 64% of all stats are made up ... 95% of people know that
[06:31] <ObrienDave> ignores the troll
[06:32] <kakakal> lindar: yes, i couldn't explain the difference in technical terms, in terms of bitrate and other things, i used same volume level, i used same song, so bitrate should be same, elsse i don't know
[06:32] <ianorlin> it might be quieter?
[06:32] <joossee> ok so i got ubuntu desktop running now i just need to install right drivers...
[06:32] <cfhowlett> kakakal, no one is going to jump through the computer to help you set your own sound preferences.
[06:32] <lindar> kakakal: Is the bitrate lower (does it sound like a fish-tank?)? Is the treble or bass different? Are the EQ levels different?
[06:33] <xmetal> bbiab.. want to try something
[06:33] <ianorlin> do you normally plug into speakers in the front and is it using worse built in speakers?
[06:33] <kakakal> cfhowlett: thanks
[06:33] <lindar> kakakal: Also, we're not required to help you. We're all random people who do this as a hobby, not official paid tech support representatives. We'll get along just fine if you get butt-hurt and decide to go back to Windows.
[06:33] <cfhowlett> kakakal, http://wiki.xiph.org/Videos/A_Digital_Media_Primer_For_Geeks
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> It's the ubuntu-gang lol
[06:34] <lindar> kakakal: So how about you be a little fucking humble and don't act so entitle. We don't have to fix your problem, and we're not inclined to if you're not going to help us figure out what the problem is.
[06:34] <joossee> hey im humble and unintitled! lets go back to the sooting melodies of fixing a funky video card!
[06:34]  * cfhowlett ... inserts "chillax" command into the thread.
[06:35] <lindar> joossee: Did you get fglrx-updates installed?
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> joossee, Have you identified said card, look at lspci to do so.
[06:35] <joossee> lindar, hrmm dont think so..?
[06:35] <joossee> apt-get install fglrx-updates ?
[06:35] <joossee> how do i get command prompt? atl-f2?
[06:35] <kermyt> has anyoe gotten fglrx to work with with the new AMD APU?
[06:36] <lindar> joossee: That or ctrl+alt+t
[06:36] <lindar> joossee: "sudo apt-get install --yes fglrx-updates"
[06:37] <lindar> kermyt: Haven't tried. Too poor. If you buy me one I'll try it out and let you know.
[06:37] <rajuvm> Hi guys i have directory path /var/local/oab/src directory. In amazon instance its taking up more disk space of 2G, as we know its kind of very critical in prods. Could you help us in understanding, what this directory is and how can i handle it
[06:37] <joossee> lindar, ok comes up in lspci it seems right
[06:37] <kermyt> I have an AMD A4-3300 APU and fglrx runs but with an "unsupported hardware" logo in the right corner.
[06:38] <kermyt> the radeon drivers jsut hard lock the machine
[06:38] <joossee> 3,3 kbps wow!
[06:38] <lindar> kermyt: I get that same thing with fglrx, but fglrx-updates works great.
[06:38] <joossee> gigabit  cables definately worth the extra ten bucks
[06:38] <kermyt> hmm ok thanks lindar
[06:39] <lindar> kakakal: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[06:39] <lindar> kakakal: "buy professional support services"
[06:40] <joossee> hrmmm lindar... the install seems stopped at 94% .. i hit enter it just repeats "94% [5 fglrx-updates 87.6 ... 100%]
[06:40] <kakakal> lindar: NO problem, i don't have so much spare time to tweak, i will spend some more time on installing drivers in WIndows, next time, that's the only positive difference i could see in the linux. Otherwise, slow read write speed, even on ext4 partition as compared to NTFS, with same hardware, slow boot as compared to windows, slow application execution, like chrome, gimp, mozilla, they execute faster on windows, i installed preload, prelink,, ureadahead, and h
[06:40] <joossee> kakakal, yeah but i can copy all your files with a usb stick.\
[06:41] <joossee> oh here we go install has resumed
[06:41] <joossee> depmod.....
[06:41] <kermyt> ext4 isn't designed to be a high performance FS. it's a journaling FS and as a result it's a little slower than most non journaling FSs like ext2
[06:41] <kakakal> joossee: even with an encrypted hard drive?
[06:41] <lindar> kakakal: Okay, like I said, I don't care one way or another. It's not my job to force you to use Ubuntu.
[06:41] <cfhowlett> and now, moving on to ubuntu support ...
[06:42] <lindar> kakakal: You can't figure out how to get it to work and you won't explain what's actually wrong with it.
[06:42] <kakakal> lindar: i am not complaining anything to you and why the hell you are getting angry
[06:42] <ObrienDave> but he wants it fixed NOW
[06:42] <joossee> ok fglrx update installed reboot?
[06:42] <kakakal> lindar: calm down and enjoy your work
[06:43] <kermyt> and using an encrypted file system is only going to make FS access times far worse.
[06:43] <joossee> Windows 8: Now Banned in Germany for TPM violations
[06:48] <joossee> where did lindar go?
[06:50] <raju> hi
[06:51] <cfhowlett> raju, greetings
[06:52] <brian101> Hi - I have a problem with UEFI booting. After the last update to (13.10 64amd) I no longer see my Windoze in Grub. I really need this. Can someone please assist me in getting it back.
[06:52] <raju> hi, what does /var/local/oab directory is for. can i remove this if its not needed. its taking up more disk space in prod server
[06:52] <Hempathy> Me again!
[06:52] <kakakal> brian101: use boot-repair
[06:53] <Hempathy> I'd just like to pass on my thanks to the due/tte who suggested xubuntu... can't believe it has taken me so long to try it
[06:53] <brian101> kakakal: I take it I must perform this in a terminal window from Ubuntu?
[06:53] <ObrienDave> Hempathy YAY!
[06:53] <Hempathy> just what i'm looking for in a UI... although I kinda miss the lens
[06:54] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, sweet, ain't it?
[06:54] <Hempathy> ObrienDave, thanks man :)
[06:54] <kakakal> yes, it has a GUI, and it will do most of work automatically for you
[06:54] <ObrienDave> no prob
[06:54] <joossee> ok now i am just having weirdest problem: trying to launch amd catalyst config and it asks for password to modify system settings but it keeps getting it wrong... i checked for caps lock and it stays on until i hit the shift key... is my keyboard configured incorrectly?
[06:54] <Hempathy> love it, it has the simplicity of the earlier versions of Ubuntu that I fell for
[06:55] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, nice
[06:55] <ObrienDave> Hempathy that's why i can't stand Unity ;)
[06:55] <Hempathy> I've never been a fan of Unity
[06:55] <Hempathy> although after the last few version it has been growing on me...
[06:55] <Hempathy> like a wart of athelets foot
[06:56] <ObrienDave> LOL
[06:56] <kakakal> brian101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:56] <Hempathy> Thanks again man, I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders
[06:56] <brian101> Thanx kakakal, I'll try it out tonight when I get back home after work.
[06:57] <ObrienDave> Hempathy welcome to Xubuntu ;))
[06:57] <kakakal> brian101: no problem and i am shifting to windows :(
[06:58] <ObrienDave> Hempathy and join us on #xubuntu
[06:58] <Hempathy> Thanks for your help here though people as always
[06:59] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, xubuntu is also the base of #ubuntustudio
[06:59] <Hempathy> ubuntu studio???? is that the version with the audio visual plugins?
[07:00] <Hempathy> ...software in the distro?
[07:00] <brian101> Ouch! I am considering going back to 12.04.03 LTS and staying there. Maybe looking for another distribution or following your path. Also :(
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio|Hempathy,
[07:00] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, much more than merely plugins
[07:00] <Paulus68_1> Hempathy: download size +/- 2,5 gig
[07:01] <Hempathy> cfhowlett, so currently i play woth GIMP & a couple of audio suits... this has the best recommended benchmarks?
[07:02] <ObrienDave> Hempathy just look for ubuntustudio in synaptic. no need to re-install
[07:02] <raju_> Hello I am running Ubuntu 13.10 and I dont why its keep hanging for a while and then resuimng. could somebody help me ?
[07:02] <Paulus68_1> Hempathy: then my guess is that Ubuntu studio is gonna be your friend :)
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, it all depends on what you plan to do.  you CAN get any of the packages that are in ubuntustudio without installing the distro.  US just puts it all together in a nice, tight, artfully arragned distro
[07:02] <cfhowlett> *BUT* I might be a tad biased ...
[07:03] <ObrienDave> just a bit ;))
[07:03] <Hempathy> haha ObrienDave  like you aint to Xu
[07:04] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, you've got xubuntu.  Upgrading to US would be a trivial matter.  I'd recommend the LTS version which means ... I"m going to be all xmas-y next April 17!
[07:04] <Hempathy> cfhowlett, ????
[07:04] <Hempathy> xmasy?
[07:04] <Hempathy> ahhhh 14.04?
[07:04] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:05] <ObrienDave> Hempathy who, me? NEVER ;)
[07:05] <cfhowlett> indeed!  I do LTS only so I usually watch the biannual OMG!  It's 9:01!  Is it out yet? with great amusement.
[07:06] <Hempathy> cool, I've only picked up a decent box in the last 12 months, so am looking to abuse what it's capable of
[07:06] <ObrienDave> abuse LOL
[07:06] <Hempathy> pissed that I picked up an ATI card
[07:07] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, I'll warn you now, once you pick up US and actually create something cool ... you'll never look at a vanilla ubuntu variant the same again
[07:07] <Hempathy> I've played with nearly every OS via V Box, stoked to finally find Xbb
[07:08] <Hempathy> cfhowlett,  I'm game to try, my fav toy at min is the rockband drums & fightstick I play smaple thorugh
[07:09] <Flarup> hey is this a help chanal for ubuntu ?
[07:09] <ObrienDave> yes, welcome
[07:09] <Hempathy> Xubuntu recruitment channel
[07:09] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, the ubuntuaudio meta package would certainly be worth your examination then
[07:09] <Flarup> nice
[07:09] <cfhowlett> !ask|Flarup,
[07:10] <ObrienDave> Hempathy SHHHH! don't tell everyone ;)
[07:10] <Flarup> Last nigth i wsa trying to config ethtool, so my XBMCBuntu would wake on lan
[07:10] <Flarup> but I ran into a little problem that I hope you could help me with
[07:11] <Flarup> IM danish and total newbie with this, so i think im missunderstood some guides
[07:12] <Flarup> i followed this guidehttp://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=How-to:Set_up_Wake-On-Lan_(Ubuntu)#Install_ethtool
[07:12] <cfhowlett> Flarup, give us details.  we'll try to help
[07:12] <kgalahassa> join #virtualbox
[07:12] <Flarup> could you please tell me what network interface number is ?
[07:13] <Flarup> is this the mac adress or the local ip adress
[07:13] <cfhowlett> !xbmc
[07:15] <Flarup> !xbmc
[07:16] <Flarup> do you  understand my ?
[07:16] <cfhowlett> Flarup, understood.
[07:16] <ObrienDave> !42
[07:16] <cfhowlett> Flarup, patience
[07:17] <Flarup> oki :) sorry
[07:19] <jony_easyrider> in Ubuntu Server how can I see the path where is mounted my second partition?
[07:19] <subatomic> hi
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> !fstab | jony_easyrider
[07:20] <cfhowlett> subatomic, treetings
[07:20] <cfhowlett> greetings
[07:20] <ObrienDave> tourette's? ;)
[07:20] <Flarup> !ethtool
[07:20] <subatomic> N -> И, R -> Я, heh
[07:21] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: mount command with no arguments will show all filesystem mounts
[07:22] <subatomic> american idiots, ha ha
[07:22] <wafflejock> Flarup: use man in the command line to lookup commands
[07:22]  * cfhowlett throw insults and run.  typical.
[07:22] <jony_easyrider> wafflejock, ty, it worked
[07:23] <wafflejock> jony_easyrider: np
[07:24] <Flarup> ? sorry and do not know what you mean
[07:24] <helmut_> hi
[07:25] <webdev13> hi guys , i have no idea how to config apache in ubuntu , can you please help me how to set up virtual host ?
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> Flarup: he mean type: man ethtool     to get the help docs for ethtool
[07:25] <Flarup> ahh oki thanks
[07:25] <Flarup> man ethtool
[07:25] <webdev13> because im not familiar with ubuntu :(
[07:26] <hitsujiTMO> Flarup: in the terminal that is
[07:26] <Flarup> oki hehe
[07:26] <Flarup> but could you please tell me what network interface is ? is it the local ip or the hardwares mac adress
[07:27] <qwerty__> ok guys i installed 12.04 on my desktop a while ago all i changed was the display manager and the window manager and now my sound dose not work
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> Flarup: have a look at output of ifconfig
[07:29] <Flarup> if i type ifconfig i got both the mac adress and the local ip, waht i need to no is what i have to write instead of eth0 when i config the ethtool
[07:30] <FreezingCold> Could someone run this for me?
[07:30] <FreezingCold> echo "`uname -s`//`uname -m`//`uname -r`//`uname -v`"
[07:31] <webdev13> my request ignored , because its silly ?
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !patience|webdev13,
[07:31] <cfhowlett> webdev13, ask in #ubuntu-server as well
[07:32] <hitsujiTMO> webdev13: you can also ask in #httpd
[07:32] <jnhghy> webdev13: hope this helps: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[07:34] <webdev13> i'm not good at linux commands , and i'm afraid to do something will make our website down , in that time my boss will kick me
[07:34] <qwerty__> i read online that i should remove pulse audio?
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: some apps require pulse audio
[07:36] <jnhghy> webdev13: fallowing the steps from digitalocean or given by a irc user has riscks.... set up a new computer set up the virtual host... (you can do it a few times...) get the handler... and the switch to the live site computer when you know that the steps you do work ... nobody will advice you to hit commands on a working web host when you don't know what thoes commands do ...
[07:37] <qwerty__> i have searched google and i cant seem to figure out why my sound has just stopped working
[07:37] <qwerty__> it is a ac97
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> !sound: qwerty__
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> qwerty__: did it happen after an update?
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> !sound | qwerty__
[07:37] <webdev13> ok , i will test the commands first in development env.
[07:38] <qwerty__> i removed unity and am now using openbox so i cant do that
[07:38] <webdev13> but im bad at lunux commands
[07:38] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: have a look there. I'd start by seeing if you can play a sound directly with alsa: use aplay from command line to do that
[07:38] <qwerty__> i tryed aplay and nothing happens
[07:39] <qwerty__> like i said the sound worked fine before i removed unity and installed openbox
[07:39] <qwerty__> i also  removed lightdm if it matters
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: did you try aplay /path/to/file
[07:40] <qwerty__> hitsujiTMO, yeah i tryed that before
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> qwerty__: why did you remove unity, as you can login to openbox?
[07:40] <qwerty__> lotuspsychje, because i like using startx
[07:40] <qwerty__> lotuspsychje, with openbox
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: have a look at alsamixer to see of its muted. hit m on a channel to mute/unmute.
[07:41] <qwerty__> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> qwerty__: maybe it removed needed files uninstalling unity
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: install alsa-utils
[07:42] <qwerty__> alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[07:42] <Yowl> My browser has been freezing up, and its frozen up my system too, causing weird graphic problems, like where it shows chrome shrunk and semitransparent (can't take a screenshot of it because of PC being froze up every time this happens) Is there a log or something that could tell me what might be going on? Could I have malware attached to my browser?
[07:42] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: then try again: alsamixer
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: when did this problem occur?
[07:43] <qwerty__> hitsujiTMO, same thing no such file or directory
[07:43] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: plenty of times, including just before I came here. I was viewing a review site, and as I was scrolling down, the page would lock up and the browser would offer to kill the page after awhile.
[07:43] <qwerty__> hitsujiTMO, if i just type alsa i get something
[07:43] <Solupus> I installed citadel-suite and got everything working so far. When i tried to acess webcit via mydomain.com:8080 it works fine but when i try to access it through mydomain.com:4434 i get a connection timed out error
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !details | Yowl
[07:44] <Solupus> i tried a test build without apache and https worked fine
[07:44] <qwerty__> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: ubuntu version? upgrade? grafix card chipset and driver?
[07:44] <Solupus> but once I added apache I started getting the connection was reset error
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: looks like you messed something up if alsamixer is not there and alsa-utils is installed
[07:44] <Solupus> timed out = correction reset* sorry
[07:44] <dreamy_> what tag can i type on the command line to kow my internet ip? anyone helping?
[07:45] <everestt> join #cyanogenmod
[07:45] <qwerty__> hitsujiTMO, when trying to figure out whats going on i reinstalled alsa-utils
[07:45] <everestt> (oops..sorry)
[07:45] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: radeon 6850, so it isnt necessarily maleware?
[07:45] <Archguy> How is there no one here?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: no i dont think its malware
[07:46] <Archguy> Anyone know why this alias doesn't work: alias alias keymap="setxkbmap -layout 'fr,us' -option 'grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll'" I put it in .bash_aliases in Lubuntu 13.04
[07:46] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: What would signs of maleware in a browser on ubuntu be?
[07:46] <hitsujiTMO> qwerty__: if you want to use openbox, you should install a minimal environment fisrt. then install the components on top of it so you know whats going on. so you should have installed ubuntu-server and install the packages on top of that
[07:47] <wilee-nilee> Yowl, malware is not pointed at linux, not really the correct term
[07:47] <qwerty__> hitsujiTMO, ok ill start over then hahaha ill be back thanks
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: my xchat icon on cairo dock doesnt start, and after running it from unity sidebar it opens second active icon in cairo, any clue?
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Hmm not sure I would drag it off when closed and make another launcher, have not really had that happen.
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: you have system freezes when not browsing chrome?
[07:49] <Yowl> wilee-nilee: Well plugins don't care much about the OS because they interface with the browser, right? Couldn't it be some maleware installed in the browser so that the OS doesn't matter?
[07:50] <xmetal> hmm
[07:50] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: I don't think so, but I often use my computer for browsing, so its hard to say for sure. Not sure if it happens in firefox or not, not been using it much
[07:50] <Archguy> Anyone know why this alias doesn't work: alias alias keymap="setxkbmap -layout 'fr,us' -option 'grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll'" I put it in .bash_aliases in Lubuntu 13.04
[07:50] <Archguy> Hello, installed VMWare Tools and the CD mounts in Lubuntu but when I go into the folder /media/username/"Lubuntu 13.04" and try and read it I get ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> Yowl, highly unlikely never seen one myself or here in 7 years of using open source.
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: you might wanna dig in /var/log/syslog.1 to see if there are relevant errors maybe
[07:51] <molavy1> i can't understand why installtion of ubuntu on kvm take too long
[07:51] <molavy1> i have centos as host and want install ubuntu as guest access 3GB Ram and 4 core cpu
[07:52] <molavy1> i using libvirt and virtu manager
[07:52] <molavy1> i take too long to show each step
[07:52] <Gentoon> Strangley my sound didnt work out of the box and I am having weird hibernation issues
[07:53] <Gentoon> anyways it didnt detect my sound, is there some simple app or script I can ru for it to try and detect it?
[07:53] <Gentoon> I have installed Ubuntu on this machine so many times and never had issues this is weird
[07:53] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: Considering it just happened, and considering there is no entries for today, it seems there are no answers in syslog.1
[07:53] <molavy1> and use less than 10% of hardware assigned
[07:53] <Gentoon> It is 13.04 btw
[07:54] <Gentoon> Anyone?
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> Yowl: your system freeze must have a cause, so somewhere it should have an error
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> molavy1, you sum it, ubuntu is not the best vm OS I have found anyway.
[07:54] <molavy1> for example it show me 5 minute a purple screen and then show select keyboard layout
[07:54] <Gentoon> Sureley there is some setup script or something that will attempt to find my sound card?
[07:55] <molavy1> which one is best to run web service on vm
[07:55] <molavy1> ?
[07:56] <Gentoon> Ok btw it is sudo als force-reload
[07:56] <Yowl> lotuspsychje: Not in syslog.1. What ever the issue, is, it seems to originate from the browser, ranging from momentary strange hickups to the aforementioned total system freezes. But its the browser that freezes first, then the rest of the system seems to panic and freeze up soon after.
[07:56] <molavy1> i don't know , that may cause of server host config , but it is default libvirt default config on centos and i don't change anything
[07:57] <Yowl> I misspoke, the rest of the system doesn't necessarily freeze up soon after, it depends on a few factors, like how much else I try to do etc
[07:58] <Yowl> I definitely haven't managed to get up system monitor during these browser freezeups though
[07:58] <Nothing_Much> How do I add a partition to the /home directory?
[07:58] <jony_easyrider> it's ok if I use "." in the a username in Ubuntu Server?
[07:59] <ObrienDave> Nothing_Much you don't add partitions to a directory. what do you mean
[08:00] <Yowl> Nothing_Much: I recommend naming the partition in gparted after making and formating to simply matters. You make the partition, format, mount it to /home, then you set ownership
[08:00] <molavy1> any idea ? best approach to make server visualize with two vm , one for web server and another for local network usage
[08:00] <Nothing_Much> ObrienDave, What I mean is I can cd into the partition without going to /media/
[08:00] <Yowl> Nothing_Much: I went through it with help here before, but I don't remember the particular commands for it.
[08:01] <Yowl> Nothing_Much: partitions are mounted whereever you want, whether it be /home or anywhere else
[08:01] <Nothing_Much> So how do I mount that partition on /home?
[08:01] <jnhghy> Nothing_Much: see if this helps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MoveMountpointHowto
[08:02] <yeyeman> software updater wants to install something for chromium?? I don't even have chromium install to my knowledge
[08:02] <yeyeman> how do I remove it?
[08:03] <jnhghy> molavy1: you have 1 server or 2 VMs?
[08:03] <Yowl> Nothing_Much: After that, if you can't add files to the partition, its because you haven't set ownership yet
[08:03] <Nothing_Much> I am able to put files in the partition
[08:03] <Nothing_Much> I just need to figure out how to mount them
[08:04] <Nothing_Much> to /home
[08:04] <jnhghy> Nothing_Much: using fstab, have you checked the webpage I've linked?
[08:04] <Grimm_> Hey , once again i will attempt to install ubuntu 13 next to my windows 7 , on a machine with UEFI . Last 2 times i tried , i gave up after a few days of frustration , but i found my courage again.
[08:04] <Nothing_Much> I tried fstab
[08:04] <Grimm_> Is this the right channel for support for this ? i really would need step by step help
[08:04] <Nothing_Much> Ah
[08:05] <MasterOfDisaster> Hey, I got a problem with polkit-kde: I installed the package, and the agent seems to get launched. But testing it with pkcheck says there's no agent to communicate with. If I use '--enable-internal-agent', the polkit related stuff works as expected, but KDE won't display any dialog.
[08:05] <yeyeman> how do I remove "chromium security updates" from my software updates?
[08:05] <Nothing_Much> I put it in the /home directory
[08:05] <molavy1> jnhghy: i have one server hp proliant dl380 g5
[08:05] <yeyeman> I don't have chromium installed so I don't want it's security updates
[08:05] <molavy1> installed centos
[08:06] <wafflejock> Grimm_: yes, you're not likely to find someone who has your exact scenario but if you run thinigs by the chat and let people know when you're wary of a step you'll get feedback
[08:06] <Nothing_Much> But when I put it where my name is (where I wanna put it), it overwrites my documents, music, videos, etc folders
[08:07] <Grimm_> ok , im going to try. Last times everything got pretty messed up , and i am not that tech savy to understand everything , even i have been reading for ages about GRUB's , legacy modes , EFI partitions and whatever else , but i still feel my head can't undrstand all of it :p
[08:07] <jnhghy> Nothing_Much: create a folder for it next to your name (I have a folder called RAID) in which you mount the partition...
[08:07] <Nothing_Much> Ah thanks
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> yeyeman, You ever install lubuntu, it used to have chromium?
[08:08] <wafflejock> Grimm_: yeah that's what I'm saying not sure any one person will have their head wrapped around every step but certainly a good place to get help along the way
[08:08] <molavy1> jnhghy: any idea?
[08:09] <jnhghy> molavy1: I still don't understand what is the exact issue: you host a website that is public and you can't access it from the localhost? or what? do you also have a gateway?
[08:09] <Grimm_> I got one SSD , split up in one small partition for the windows boot loader , and the rest of the SSD for windows 7 . On the second HDD i have in this machine , i create a GRUB boot partition of 500mb , a root partition , and a swap partition . Does this make sense ?
[08:10] <molavy1> again , i have raw server and want setup visualization on it, i install centos 6.4 as host
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, For what?
[08:11] <molavy1> then i setup libvirt on it and make vm machine
[08:11] <Grimm_> dual boot install of windows 7 and ubuntu 13 . windows on the SSD , and ubuntu on the HDD ?
[08:11] <jony_easyrider> I need a user friendly solution how can the users change their SSH password on my server
[08:11] <molavy1> i want setup ubuntu as web server
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, You mention efi earlier how is that related?
[08:12] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: do they login via CLI or GUI?
[08:12] <roscogruen> ANYONE:  want to install linux on an acer aspire V5-122p-0643.  secure boot/uefi or something is blocking it.  ideas?
[08:12] <jnhghy> molavy1: now I undertand... sorry don't know...
[08:12] <Grimm_> i don't think its related , i was just stating that i have been reading a lot about all these things and EFI passed my mind ,
[08:12] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: if it is CLI why not have them type passwd?
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | roscogruen
[08:12] <Grimm_> now im using this guide , i think its also applyable for the latest ubuntu ? http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/10/10/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-on-a-pc-with-uefi-board-ssd-and-hdd/
[08:12] <wafflejock> !details | molavy1 where are you stuck?
[08:12] <molavy1> but it take to long and i am in installation about 15 minute for each step showing
[08:13] <molavy1> i want install ubuntu version 13.10 , what command output you want know
[08:14] <wafflejock> molavy1: are you installing ubuntu server edition or desktop edition?
[08:14] <roscogruen> wilee-nilee: what does that mean?  !uefi  ?
[08:14] <wafflejock> roscogruen: the !somethingHere are commands meant for the bot to respond to
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> roscogruen, Read what the bot says right after, about uefi, it is a bot prompt
[08:14] <wafflejock> !bot | roscogruen
[08:15] <roscogruen> oh, okay.  thank you.  i've been wondering
[08:15] <roscogruen> lol
[08:15] <wafflejock> roscogruen: no worries new to IRC I take it :)
[08:15] <roscogruen> quite
[08:15] <roscogruen> old user but not frequent
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, uefi is a bit of a mystery to most of us here, just a heads up really.
[08:16] <wafflejock> wilee-nilee: truth
[08:16] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, what is CLI? Those user accounts are for accessing their own folders on the server. The server is like a file transfer server
[08:16] <Grimm_> yeah it seems to be :( and all these UEFI guides i find give different info as all systems seem to be slightly different
[08:17] <RaginHam> evening all
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, When it's an OEM they can be for sure.
[08:17] <roscogruen> do many people bypass this block easily when moving from Win8 to linux?
[08:18] <Nmbr1> jony_easyrider: CLI is command line interface. I would write a shell script and put it on their desktop that logs them in and issues the passwd command so they can type a new password
[08:18] <wafflejock> Grimm_: since you're in murky waters perhaps it's best to pull the SSD while doing the Linux install the do a bootrepair to get grub installed... just an idea
[08:18] <scott_w> roscogruen: running ubuntu on a UEFI system?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: uefi depends a lot on the motherboard manufacturer. For some it's simple, for others it difficult
[08:19] <ozgur> hii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card?
[08:19] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, do you recommend to give them a solution with using https://ssh.serverdo.in/ ?
[08:19] <Grimm_> ive tried running a USB with the boot repair disk (burned with unetbootin) , but all it does is show me some options at boot , if i select the boot repair option , it loads ubuntu and nothing happens , no reports of boot repair nothing..
[08:19] <jony_easyrider> Nmbr1, it's safe to use that site?
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, bootrepair is run in the desktop
[08:20] <ozgur> iwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?
[08:20] <Grimm_> ok , should i execute it from the command then ?
[08:20] <Grimm_> console i mean
[08:20] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[08:20] <RaginHam> anyone ever updated a network card in a lenovo? Switched out the RT3090 which came in my machine with a ThinkPenguin Atheros AR9285..... my speed tests are amazing. Perfect, consistent speed for over an hour (something I'd never get more than 1 minute worth before).
[08:20] <roscogruen> gosh.   how could i determine beforehand if i should be making the switch?  (will i end up with tons of problems)
[08:20] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Is there a bootrepair option in grub now after running it? Is ubuntu installed?
[08:21] <roscogruen> 14 i think
[08:21] <wafflejock> roscogruen: backup and don't worry
[08:21] <Grimm_> ubuntu is not yet installed , i want to first fresh format all drives and reinstall windows on the SSD as this current install has issues.
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> roscogruen: the version number is on the iso (aything 14.xx) isnt released til next year
[08:21] <roscogruen> looks like Grimm_ is having similar issue
[08:22] <Grimm_> i got tons of issues ! :D
[08:22] <wafflejock> and softwares only one of em :)
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Bootrepair would be used to fix grub in general and the boots after all installs.
[08:22] <Grimm_> bloody modern systems what the hell was wrong with old bios :P
[08:22] <RaginHam> Only problem, seems this BIOS has whitelisted devices. Keeps giving me a "140 - unsupported wireless device..." on the bootup, but seems to be working after each bootup.
[08:23] <Fargone> Ls
[08:23] <ozgur> hii anybody connect succesufly wireless network with İntel Centrino-N 6300 card? iwlwifi driver is very unstable for dhcp or internet speed what can i do ?
[08:23] <Grimm_> ok, so i can best format first , reinstall windows on the SSD , unplug the SSD , install linux on the HDD and THEN run boot repair ?
[08:23] <roscogruen> hitsujiTMO: i've no idea.  not important to me now
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, I have W8.1 on my msdos and 3 linux OS's I'm avoiding the uefi thang as long as I can.
[08:23] <ikonia> Grimm_: don't unplug disks
[08:23] <wafflejock> Grimm_: yeah basically I was saying if you wanted to avoid tampering with the windows drive in case it had stuff you needed to keep
[08:23] <wafflejock> Grimm_: no need to unplug if it's all fresh
[08:23] <ikonia> Grimm_: leave them both in at the same time, so that the driver order/list is the same all the way through
[08:24] <Grimm_> i got everything backed up on an external disk , and all external disks are disconnected now . Nothing too loose
[08:24] <ikonia> Grimm_: to be honest, no real need to use boot repair, using the tool from within ubuntu and the install media should be enough, you also know you are using the same versions of things like grub as the ubuntu installer then
[08:24] <wafflejock> Grimm_: cool
[08:24] <roscogruen> Grimm_: are you having a hard time with uefi block?
[08:25] <pouet78> hello, does anyone knows where I can find help abous schroot?
[08:25] <Grimm_> terrible hard time. Last time i tried it , windows would immediatly boot , i could not get the boot loader to appear . Next to that having issues with graphics card and ubuntu , but that got solved with some command (nomodeset or soemthing)
[08:25] <roscogruen> is it Win8?
[08:26] <RaginHam> pouet: what type of help?
[08:26] <Grimm_> win7
[08:26] <roscogruen> k
[08:26] <Grimm_> aint touching windows 8 with a 50 feet pole hahaha
[08:26] <RaginHam> pouet78: tried "man schroot" in terminal yet?
[08:27] <roscogruen> it looks like they've put roadblocks up so running linux on top of it is difficult.  very difficult
[08:27] <pouet78> I'd like t create a chroot which runs qemu automatically because it is armel on my amd64
[08:27] <Grimm_> yeah it feels like that they make it as hard as possible .
[08:28] <roscogruen> well, at least we know the employees are actually working there now.
[08:28] <Grimm_> but anyway , just to summarize what im going to do , so if anything sounds wrong i hopefully know it before i start this process again.
[08:29] <pouet78> I already created one "from scratch" using mk-sbuild but now I have an armel image that I would likt to transform to a chroot
[08:30] <roscogruen> i'm thinking to pull out and not install ubuntu on this new laptop.  it is the girlfriend's anyhow
[08:30] <pouet78> I searched man and docs I don't understand how schroot knows to use qemu
[08:31] <pouet78> any clue?
[08:31] <roscogruen> Grimm_: and also make sure win8 isn't on any new machine i buy
[08:32] <Grimm_> 1st format all drives . Then install windows 7 on the SSD , just like i would do standard without thinking about dual boot. If thats done , install linux on the HDD via 'something else' and create following partitions : 1= 500mb boot partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /boot.     2=root partition , primary , ext4 , mount point = /     3=4 gig SWAP   ... Device for boot loader /dev/sdb
[08:32] <Grimm_> does that sound sensible ? or am i lost already
[08:33] <Serus> Hi
[08:33] <Serus> I'm currently booted in a Live usb of ubuntu using UEFI
[08:34] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: if you're using uefi boot you need an efi system partition too (50mb should be enough)
[08:34] <Serus> I'm not Grimm_ But I am using UEFI boot
[08:34] <Serus> and I already have a UEFI partition
[08:35] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: ahh sorry, if you're installing win 7 then it will create it for you
[08:35] <Grimm_> ok , so i don't need to worry about EFI at all ? i still dont get the EFI thing fully im afraid
[08:35] <Guest34904> i am in greece and  i see official docs https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek. how can i see it in english?
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, So is this a uefi computer from a purchase and it had W8 or a custom build that happens to have a uefi setup?
[08:36] <Grimm_> custom build with a Asus Arock motherboard with UEFI on there when i got it
[08:36] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: instead of an mbr bootstrap, the OS looks for a EFI boot partition. when it finds it, it looks there for the various OS bootstraps. That's the only real difference.
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, I think you can set the bios as legacy and make msdos partition tables and just install like normal.
[08:36] <Serus> Kinda the same here.
[08:36] <Grimm_> had windows 7 also preinstalled . machine comes from a site where you put your hardware together , they make the thing , install the windows you want and deliver it like that
[08:37] <Serus> Yeah you probably already have an EFI partition then
[08:37] <Gnik> Hello IRC world
[08:37] <Serus> Same here.
[08:37] <Serus> Hi Gnik
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Ah, so the W7 was gpt uefi?
[08:38] <Grimm_> euhm not sure what to answer there
[08:38] <Serus> wilee-nilee, probably, it's the case with my laptop atleast
[08:38] <Serus> Grimm_, Are you in windows?
[08:38] <Grimm_> yup
[08:38] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, Can you run the bootinfo summary on the bootrepair it would give us any info on gpt?
[08:39] <Daxro> Just had an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS production server become unresponsive, responded to pings no nginx, ssh, etc kinda weird not sure how to investigate this
[08:39] <Serus> Ok click on start, then rightclick on computer and then click manage
[08:39] <Grimm_> ok im in computer management
[08:39] <Serus> Ok then click on harddrive manager or anything that looks like that
[08:39] <Grimm_> i can try to run the bootinfo summary , if i figure out how to get the bootrepair to work in that ubuntu desktop
[08:40] <Grimm_> disk management? im there
[08:40] <Serus> My windows is in dutch so it might not be completely accurate with other languages
[08:40] <Grimm_> i speak dutch , mine is english but i can follow i guess
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> !bootrepair | Grimm_ info on installing it here
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, seems like Serus knows how to conform a gpt from windows.
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> !boot-repair | Grimm_ info on installing it here
[08:40] <wilee-nilee> confirm
[08:40] <Serus> Ok do you have like a 100~200MB partition 1?
[08:40] <Grimm_> 100mb system reserved
[08:40] <Grimm_> on disk 0
[08:41] <Serus> does it have a label?
[08:41] <Guest34904> how can i see official documentation webpage in english?
[08:41] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair thats info on installing boot repair.
[08:41] <Grimm_> alright thanks for that link , ill read into it in a sec
[08:41] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: that 100mb is the efi system partition
[08:41] <Nmbr1> i've never used it.
[08:41] <Nmbr1> as a general rule i like to keep anything account related in house
[08:41] <pouet78> Daxro: you should have physical access
[08:41] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, yes I think so too, but it's probably labeled SYSTEM.
[08:41] <Grimm_> im not sure if it has a label , don't know where too look fore
[08:42] <Serus> if it's labeled SYSTEM then it's the EFI partition
[08:42] <Serus> well it says system reserved so I'm 90% sure you already have an EFI partition.
[08:42] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: afaik, there's usually no labels on efi partitions even with windows.
[08:42] <Grimm_> it just says " system reserved  100mb NTFS , healthy "
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest34904, try bringing it up then add /en to the end
[08:43] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: of its NTFS then its not efi system partition
[08:43] <Serus> Grimm_, NTFS? Hmm, I'm not completely sure if that's EFI.
[08:43] <Gnik> Can I remove win7 off my laptop and make ubuntu my only OS?
[08:43] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: yes
[08:43] <Serus> Gnik, yes, if you want to.
[08:44] <Gnik> how? is there a tut?
[08:44] <Serus> It's really easy.
[08:44] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: are you in the live cd now?
[08:44] <Serus> Do you have ubuntu installed or are you in a live environment?
[08:44] <Grimm_> no , im still in windows 7 , i havent started to format or anything yet , tried to figure out what road to take before i start walking
[08:44] <Serus> I see
[08:44] <Gnik> I booted off a USB
[08:45] <Grimm_> im going to take my tablet in a second , to get on the IRC there , while i start the process on the machine im currently typing on
[08:45] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: can you boot the live cd. there's a few tools there that can show us exactly what you have
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> Gnik, This computer ever have W8 a uefi setup?
[08:45] <Serus> Ok Gnik are you familiar with linux?
[08:45] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: theres an irc client on the live cd (or at least you can install one)
[08:45] <Gnik> I used kali linux but not alot
[08:45] <Gnik> so im a noob
[08:45] <Gnik> XD
[08:46] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I installed hexchat on live usb
[08:46] <Serus> Xchat*
[08:46] <Grimm_> ok , is it sensible to first already install Windows 7 on the SSD as i would normally do without considering the dual boot ? If thats done ill plug in the liveusb for ubuntu and get into that enviroment ?
[08:46] <hitsujiTMO> Ahh, so it needs to be installed, but at least you can install it
[08:46] <Serus> Gnik, that's OK, how is your understanding on computers?
[08:47] <kubanc> Hellow! I get this error after i installed extplorer in /var/www folder: failed to spawn mysql main process unable to execute: permission denied
[08:47] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: its easier to if windows is installed first.
[08:47] <Serus> Grimm_, Yes, ALWAYS install windows first. Windows "breaks" the old bootloader.
[08:47] <Grimm_> allright i start with that first. Nothing special i have to consider when installing windows ?
[08:47] <Serus> Nope, just keep spamming Next
[08:47] <Grimm_> ok
[08:47] <Serus> well
[08:48] <Serus> you might consider not taking up the complete harddrive
[08:48] <wilee-nilee> Grimm_, If you are building partitions it is a manual install.
[08:48] <Serus> since resizing partitions can take a very long time.
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> kubanc: I'm not sure extplorer is even being developed any more. might be an idea to try an alternative
[08:49] <Grimm_> I generally use the entire SSD for windows as i use windows often for gaming and some more heavy 3D modelling software
[08:49] <Gnik> When I remove win7 will it also delete all the files/games/programs and viruses ?
[08:49] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, What device should I select for bootloader installation? The EFI partition, or just /dev/sda?
[08:49] <Serus> Gnik, everything will be gone.
[08:49] <Gnik> thats good
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: if you see that then you're not in UEFI mode install
[08:50] <Grimm_> its a 128gig SSD drive , and next to that i got a 1TB HDD , that i wanted to split up in one part of 100gig for Ubuntu , and the rest of that drive in NTFS as a "data partition" that all OS could reach
[08:50] <veryhappy> hi guys, can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.
[08:50] <Serus> Gnik, are you completely sure you want that?
[08:50] <kubanc> hitsujiTMO: well it broke my http server
[08:50] <kubanc> hitsujiTMO: i think permissions to my folders changed
[08:50] <Gnik> yes, im 100% sure
[08:50] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, this command "dmesg | grep "EFI v"" gives me the EFI version I'm running.
[08:51] <Serus> Gnik, Ok, you where in a live USB right?
[08:51] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: whats the output of: efibootmgr
[08:51] <Serus> let me check
[08:51] <Serus> currently not installed :p
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: you may need to do: sudo efibootmgr
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: install it onto the live cd
[08:52] <Gnik> When I turn on my laptop it gives me a choice to boot up in win7 or ubuntu, thats all i know Serus
[08:52] <ZujkisNx> Hi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?
[08:52] <Daxro> pouet78: Why would I need physical access to a server ?
[08:53] <Serus> Gnik, I see, and you are in ubuntu?
[08:53] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, installation failed O.o
[08:53] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: if you want ubuntu solely, i would suggest just backing everything up and doing aclean install
[08:53] <Serus> should I do a apt-get update first?
[08:53] <Gnik> yes im in ubuntu now
[08:53] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: yup
[08:54] <svector> what shall I configure so that programs shall have the file access permissions they need? Eclipse says it can access android sdk's adb...
[08:54] <Gnik> clean install?
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: as in wipe your current install of windows and ubuntu and install a fresh copy of ubuntu
[08:54] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, It's in use by the installer >.<
[08:55] <hitsujiTMO> serus :P
[08:55] <Gnik> and how do i do that?
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> gnik: tell the install disk. it will give you that option when installing
[08:56] <Serus> requesting permission to paste 8 lines of output
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: paste.ubuntu.com
[08:56] <Gnik> Can i do it via a USB?
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> !usb | gnik yes you can!
[08:56] <Serus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363579/
[08:57] <Gnik> thanks everyone for the help
[08:57] <devilskin> I moved files from a ext3 file system to fat32 system and burned it to dvd and both comes up with files damaged. I know this because I md5sum the pictures on the source drive the ext3 drive and when I check them from this md5sum I get fails I get different files that fail when I do the backup again... does anyone know what I can do to get the files to another file system intacted?
[08:57] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: cool, so you're probably in uefi install so. did it actually ask you where to install grub to?
[08:57] <devilskin> what should I do?
[08:58] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, uh, what install type? I selected manual
[08:59] <Serus> I want to make sure nothing gets overwritten :)
[08:59] <Serus> I mean I selected "Something else"
[08:59] <hitsujiTMO> serus: when you asked me where to install the bootloader to... did the installer ask you that?
[09:00] <Serus> yes, it asks that at the partition scheme
[09:00] <Woodsman> Does anyone in here have any idea why 250,000 insertions into a standard binary heap would complete half as quickly as 125,000 insertions followed by 125,000 deletions? I thought insertions were O(log(N)) and deletions were O(1), so it doesn't make sense that twice as many expensive operations takes half as long
[09:01] <ZujkisNx> Hi, I'm trying to run clojure server and getting an error: "Could not bind to port: XXXXX".. do I need to configure something in OS?
[09:01] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, sending you a screenshot in a sec
[09:01] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: that must be a bug in the installer then. it can only install the bootloader to the efi system partition. lol, was just going to ask you for one.
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Woodsman
[09:02] <hitsujiTMO> ZujkisNx: is something else using that port?
[09:03] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, http://dragoon.genyaa.org/install.png
[09:03] <RaginHam> Alright, seems like alot of the major problem users are winding down.
[09:03] <AndroUser> test
[09:03] <AndroUser> dmmed\
[09:03] <RaginHam> I'll try and address my problem again.
[09:04] <RaginHam> Lenovo's darned blacklist wireless devices. Updating BIOS my only option?
[09:04] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, WOW the site is SLOW, I need to tell my friend to restart his server.
[09:05] <Ben64> RaginHam: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, maybe try ##hardware ?
[09:05] <RaginHam> The card seems to be working without a hitch... but I get the 104 - unsupported wireless on boot.
[09:05] <RaginHam> k
[09:05] <RaginHam> thanks Ben.
[09:05] <Grimm3> ok cool , i got on the irc on my tablet pc , im going to format my SSD and the HDD , install windows 7 on the SSD like nothing special
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> serus: :) yeah that looks to be a bug in the installer. i would leave it as it is
[09:06] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Anyway you should be able to see it after a while.
[09:06] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I can also select /dev/sda1
[09:06] <rich> why does ubuntu suck so much?
[09:06] <Serus> rich, I think this is not the right channel to talk about why ubuntu is bad.
[09:07] <rich> ney jsut kidding im using ubuntu now for years...
[09:07] <Serus> oh lol
[09:07] <rich> but im not very happy....with it. the problem is im not very happy with any distro
[09:08]  * Serus was going to use linux mint until UEFI destroyed his linux dreams.
[09:08] <hitsujiTMO> rich this is a support channel, if you want to have a chat hop in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <RaginHam> Vanilla Ubi? Tried Kubuntu or Xubuntu perhaps?
[09:09] <pouet78> Daxro, To understand why ping is ok and othe services are not
[09:09] <Serus> To be honest I'm sceptical ubuntu will even run on my UEFI system. Seeing I tried to get that working for 24hours straight.
[09:09] <Grimm3> never loose hope young padawan , many have succceeded before you !
[09:10] <svector> I can't copy files to directories in /  like /opt. how do i give the privilege to do so without going to the terminal and using sudo?
[09:10] <ikonia> Serus: I'm sure it will run as an OS, getting the bootloader setup can be a problem depending on your EFI implementation provided by your vendor
[09:10] <Grimm3> maar ik begrijp je wel , erg demotiverend als het zo moeilijk gaat toch
[09:10] <ikonia> svector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt
[09:10] <Serus> Anyway, hitsujiTMO, /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> Serus, We see people dual boot on a uefi everyday here. its just a bit of work for some.
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> serus /dev/sda
[09:10] <Serus> Grimm3, Yeah, but let's stick to English :)
[09:11] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Got it.
[09:11] <Grimm3> oki
[09:11] <Serus> wilee-nilee, a "bit" :p
[09:11] <svector> ikonia, chmod or chown?
[09:11] <ikonia> svector: depends which you do
[09:12] <Daxro> pouet78: But how would physical access help, when I have ssh access now ?
[09:12] <ikonia> svector: could be one, both, neither, depending on your approach
[09:12] <Serus> how big should I make the swap partition? I have 12GB ram and I tend to never shut down my laptop. Just closing it.
[09:12] <Grimm3> ok stupid little question , but whats the IRC command if you want to send a message to another user in this window , without private chat (like you answer to me and i see it in red?)
[09:12] <Ben64> Serus: do you ever want to hibernate?
[09:12] <svector> ikonia, I just want to be able to move files to any directory that I want
[09:12] <pouet78> Daxro, Oh thought ssh were KO
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> serus: if you want hibernation then same as ram, if not 4gb should be enough
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> !tab | Grimm3
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3, their name followed by comma or :
[09:13] <pouet78> Daxro, you only have nginx KO?
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3, nickname
[09:13] <Serus> Ben64, That's closing my laptop and it will go in a low power state right?
[09:13] <Daxro> pouet78: It was during the non responsiveness for about 2 hours
[09:13] <Grimm3> svector, lets try that
[09:13] <svector> Grimm3,  :)
[09:13] <Ben64> svector: the ability to move files wherever you want anytime is not very secure at all
[09:13] <MasterOfDisaster> I'm having a problem with polkit-kde-1, its agent doesn't register itself properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363652/
[09:13] <Grimm3> that worked ? Sweet , learned something new again
[09:13] <ikonia> svector: if that's what you want without sudo - you're going to break your system, you need to apply thought to your file systems
[09:14] <Daxro> pouet78: Everything was not responding apart from pings, got a data center dude to reboot it
[09:14] <Ben64> Serus: depends on your settings, hibernate is shutdown + save ram to HD to resume where you were at
[09:14] <Daxro> But not sure what caused it
[09:14] <svector> Ben64, so what is a good approach to move around files in nautilus?
[09:14] <hitsujiTMO> If you mention somesone name Grimm3, in a message, no matter where you put it, most irc clients will ping that user
[09:14] <pouet78> Daxro, ok so check in logs i you see anything special before reboot
[09:14] <Serus> That's what I currently do in windows 7, but my swapfile isn't nearly as big. Iirc I only have 3GB swap on windows.
[09:14] <Ben64> svector: why would you want to move files randomly around? what are you trying to accomplish?
[09:14] <Daxro> Every service we use was fine as far as the logs go
[09:15] <Grimm3> ok cool , really handy to know
[09:15] <svector> ikonia, that's right but that means I have to use the terminal all the time
[09:15] <ikonia> svector: no it doesn't
[09:15] <Daxro> Apart from about 2 hour gap in ever log kinda like the drive was read only for a while
[09:15] <pouet78> Daxro, what about system (/var/log/syslog)
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> serus: closing lid defaults to suspend. you can change that to hibernation if you can get hibernation working
[09:16] <Serus> Ok, then can somebody tell me the differences between them?
[09:16] <svector> Ben64, i wanted to move some files to /opt and couldn't do it in nautilus ...
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> serus, windows has a seperate hibernation file to the swap
[09:16] <Ben64> svector: you were already given the answer to that specific thing
[09:17] <svector> Ben64, can you tell me how to accomplish that?
[09:17] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I see,I guess I'll google the differences for now.
 svector: you put the user in the right group or open the permissions on /opt
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> serus, in suspend the laptop is in a low sleep, but still somewhat running. hibernation is more like a shutdown, ram is dumped to the swap file.
[09:18] <asdasd> svector: if you know password, try alt+f2 'gksu nautilus'
[09:19] <svector> Ben64,  on properties it says "You are not an owner so cannot change settings"
[09:19] <Ben64> svector: right. the easiest way to change owner is from the command line
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> svector: what they're trying to tell you to do is create a user group. add your user to that group. chown the /opt directory to root:that group. then chmod g+ws the /opt directory. then relog and you can safely do what you want
[09:20] <Grimm3> one last IRC noob question , can i turn these join quit messages off with a command ?
[09:20] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, I guess to enable hibernation the only thing I can do is 12GB swap right?
[09:21] <Daxro> pouet78: There is 1 hour gap in /var/log/syslog
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> serus: its a bit more envolved then that, but you should at least give it 12gb swap if you do want to use it
[09:21] <Serus> 12288 is 12GB? or 12000?
[09:22] <Serus> seeing a megabyte is a million bytes here.
[09:22] <DJones> Grimm3: Which IRC client are you using
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> serus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate        12288MB
[09:22] <DanielFew> Yes, nickname worked this time :P
[09:22] <Grimm3> androIRC on my android tablet
[09:23] <Grimm3> its different for every client ? then i know to google on this client specificly
[09:23] <Daxro> pouet78: Anyway cheers for the help, My manager is being an arse today so I cannot be bothered to help him anymore.
[09:23] <svector> hitsujiTMO, thanks a lot
[09:23] <svector> Ben64, I now get it. Thanks
[09:23] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this?
[09:23] <DJones> Grimm3: Grimm3 Yeah, every client is different
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> serus: in that partition tool 1 MB = 1048576 B ... but 1G = 1000 MB ... its a really confused partitioner
[09:24] <DanielFew> Oh, and the file they execute has to be able to interact with everything in /home/network and /home/network/directory
[09:24] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, yeah lol
[09:25] <DJones> Grimm3: Looks like there should be an option in the settings menu, buts that about all I can suggest
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> serus: i normally setup may partitions with cfdisk, or cgdisk instead. much more sane
[09:26] <Serus> Can you help me find  the right keyboard layout?
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: what country are you in?
[09:26] <Grimm3> cant find it , so be it
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> serus: ahh nl
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> serus: is there a euro symbol on 4?
[09:27] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory
[09:27] <Serus> Normally on windows 7 it's Dutch - English international. But that's not here. And now I'm doing annoying stuff like this: "Iḿ itś"
[09:28] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/158162.jpg
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> serus: leave it as plain old dutch. you can change it after.
[09:28] <buu> What part of bash/ubuntu generates the "program X is not installed type apt-get.." ?
[09:28] <brian101> quit
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> serus: that looks like a US layout
[09:29] <buu> And why is it going off when a program is actually installed
[09:29] <wafflejock> buu: what program
[09:29] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Yeah, but I need it a little bit different, I normally can type these: ḿ ś
[09:29] <wafflejock> buu: is which finding it?
[09:30] <pouet78> buu, command-not-found package
[09:30] <buu> Oh, my fault!
[09:30] <buu> I had a bad alias, fixed!
[09:30] <buu> But for the sake of curiosity, what does trigger that message/
[09:30] <buu> And how does it know?!
[09:30] <simonsimcity> Hi, all
[09:30] <wafflejock> buu: a package name is not necessarily a binary name and it may not be in the path
[09:30] <Grimm3> so i am in mu UEFI setup , and i found this setting 'launch EFI shell from filesystem device' , is that something usefull for my quest of installng windows 7 and ubuntu ?
[09:31] <wim66> Serus: Engels (US, internationaal met dode toetsen)
[09:31] <wafflejock> buu: not sure exactly about it triggering the apt-get part but basically it's just looking for executable scripts and binaries on your path that match
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: set it to dutch for now. you can easily change it later
[09:31] <buu> command_not_found_handle
[09:31] <Serus> wim66, I'm in english ubuntu ^^, but that isn't completely the right one.
[09:32] <simonsimcity> I have a problem that seems to be quite strange ... I installed a fresh VM with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and set up the network env ...
[09:32] <simonsimcity> Once in a while, the DHCP client jumps in and changes the IP address back ....
[09:32] <ItsMeLenny> i'm trying to compile http://fsv.sourceforge.net/ on 12.04 precise and i get configure: error: Cannot find proper GTK+ version and  checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.1... no, any help would be much appreciated
[09:32] <simonsimcity> after waiting for maybe 3min, it switches back, to what I configured as static-IP ...
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: ask about the layout in #ubuntu-nl
[09:33] <simonsimcity> I just see, that sendmail is active at that time ...
[09:33] <simonsimcity> Anyone had this problem before?
[09:33] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: how are you setting the ip?
[09:34] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, OK :)
[09:35] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: I updated the /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted network-interface.
[09:35] <simonsimcity> Would you like to see a copy of that?
[09:35] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: what ubuntu is this? server or desktop?
[09:35] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu Server
[09:35] <DarsVaeda> is there any fix or workaround for the apple io7 trust issue available yet?
[09:35] <moondoggy> Has anyone had errors with Perl doing a dist-upgrade on 12.04 recently?
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: can you pastebin the interfaces config so please
[09:36] <Grimm3> im in the windows 7 install menu ,  just to be sure , i take the x64 architecture , not the x86 ?
[09:37] <Ben64> Grimm3: windows 7 install menu?
[09:37] <Grimm3> yeah fresh install of windows before i will install ubuntu , like i was saying earlier
[09:37] <Grimm3> just dont want to mess up here alreay
[09:37] <Ben64> well you should ask ##windows about windows stuff
[09:37] <Serus> Grimm3, most of the time it depends on the RAM you have
[09:38] <Grimm3> 8 gig ddr3 ?
[09:38] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/AxnbS0kb
[09:40] <Grimm3> ben64, im asking this here as i am in the process of installing windows 7 AND ubuntu on this machine with UEFI setup , and ive had a very hard time failing at this in the past , so i rather ask everything here now to be sure , please dont feel offennded
[09:40] <Serus> Grimm3, x64
[09:40] <Grimm3> ok thx
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: that eth0:1 looks wrong. why is it a different network? you using bridged networking or nat?
[09:42] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: I use NAT. But I can't see what this does to the problem here. This network is stable. It's just eth0, that switches back to the ip-address this machine had during installation of Ubuntu.
[09:42] <simonsimcity> I also have another machine with exactly the same setup (different Ubuntu-version) that has the same network-settings. I don't have that kind of problems there...
[09:42] <Grimm3> in the partition table , it now created 100mb system reserved partition , and the rest of that SSD is fully for windows , primary. Is that ok , do i have to create that EFI thing here already or no worries ?
[09:43] <simonsimcity> ->network-setup I mean :)
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: have you installed network-manager or anything else similar?
[09:43] <veryhappy> hey guys, i know you're all reading and writing a lot and might miss something, but please take of this question that i already wrote before a while: can i anywhere get the bfq scheduler for ubuntu? cause i'm using this scheduler on my android phone and i'm very happy about it but linus torvalds "doesn't want to have to do with more than one kernel" like he stated.
[09:43] <veryhappy> thanks
[09:44] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: If it was installed by default, yes :) Haven't installed anything like that by knowing ...
[09:44] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, It's installed, what should I do now?
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: can you comment out the eth0 and eth0:1 completely and see if it gets an ip after rebooting
[09:45] <Serus> answering my own question: "reboot"
[09:45] <Serus> Awesome it got added to the EFI boot menu
[09:45] <Serus> Other distros can learn from this. (Looking at you linux mint)
[09:46] <Grimm3> serus, im at that partition table to install windows , anything special i have to look here in order to install ubuntu later ? it located 100mb syste reserved and the rest of the SSD is the main partition to install windows on. Nothing ele i got to fix here now ?
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: if you want you can customise the efi boot menu entry (change it from ubuntu)
[09:46] <Grimm3> second HDD is just unallocated space for the moment
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm3: just 2 partitions?
[09:47] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: nope - just the loopback-network that's loaded now ...
[09:48] <ddaaa> guys, how do I change the default apps in ubuntu?
[09:48] <ddaaa> they keep reverting back whenever I restart my computer
[09:49] <Grimm3> currently for the install of windows first . disk 0 partition 1 = 100mb system reserved , disk 0 partition 2 = 111.7gig primary ,     disk 1 unallocated space 931gig (this drive will get one partition for ubuntu , and another 500gig partition for data acesible from all os)
[09:49] <Grimm3> or should i make those partitions for ubuntu now already ?
[09:49] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: hmm, odd issue so, does the issue happen with just the eth0:1 commonented out?
[09:49] <k3rv1n> Can someone who's running 13.10 do me a favor and run this?... dpkg -S `ldd /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime-service | grep libical.so.1 | cut -f3 -d' '` | head -1
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: or does it happen if you set the name of the virtual interface to eth0:0 instead of eth0:1
[09:50] <k3rv1n> I'm trying to track a bug that's preventing my clock applet from displaying
[09:50] <Serus> Grimm3, which OS will you be using more?
[09:50] <Serus> Depending on that make the windows partition smaller or bigger.
[09:51] <k3rv1n> it seems my indicator-datetime-service is link against libical.so.0 and also libical.so.1 but my Ubuntu cames with libical.so.1 only
[09:51] <Grimm3> hard to say , both of them , windows for gaming and heavy software like video editing or 3d modelling , linux for 'daily' computing , like writing , internet
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Grimm3: blender is good for 3d modelling etc
[09:51] <Grimm3> so i thought to allocate the entire SSD for windows , as the more demanding and large software would run from windows
[09:52] <Serus> Grimm3, Then I would make windows bigger.
[09:52] <Serus> Oh you have 2 harddrives
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: if windows is not making a 3rd partition then your installing as mbr not efi. leave ubuntu set up it's own partitions
[09:52] <Grimm3> yup , its the entire SSD now for windows
[09:52] <Grimm3> ok windows is not making that 3h partition. so i dont allocate anything yet for ubuntu , we will deal with that when i try to install ubuntu ?
[09:53] <Serus> Grimm3, Yes.
[09:54] <Grimm3> cool , installing windows started , and now for a smoke
[09:54] <Serus> Grimm3, Just do as you said, windows on SSD and ubuntu on the other hdd
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: yeah, worry about the ubuntu partitions when your installing ubuntu. you can't specify linux filesystems in the windows installer so there's no point in setting it now
[09:54] <Serus> I'm rebooting.
[09:54] <Serus> brb
[09:54] <Grimm3> allright , damm you guys are smart
[09:55] <Grimm3> im quite tech savy if it comes to windows , and my entire family knows when to reach me when something is wrong on windows , but if i get to these things , i feel such a dumb nooob
[09:57] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: you learn from doing it again and again :P    making mistakes is the best way to learn
[09:58] <Grimm3> thats true !
[09:59] <Grimm3> noooooooooooo
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> why not ubuntu and windows on the ssd with user data, /var and swap on the platter based drive?
[09:59] <Grimm3> windows cannot install required files , the file may be corrupt or missing
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ant windows swap and %temp% on the platter too
[09:59] <Grimm3> so my usb disk didnt write properly
[10:00] <Grimm3> damm you windows , damm you unetbootin
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Grimm3: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:00] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, IT WORKED!!!!!
[10:00] <Grimm3> nope :( lets do that now
[10:00] <Serus> WOOT
[10:00] <Grimm3> Omg your in serus ? you actually have them both running ?
[10:01] <Serus> Grimm3, Not sure if win7 is broken now :p
[10:01] <Serus> But I think so
[10:01] <Grimm3> so there is ligth at the end of the tunnel ! hopefully..
[10:01] <Serus> There is
[10:01] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | serus
[10:02] <Serus> Holy.. I wanted to type I've and this is what I got. ǘ
[10:02] <Serus> wtf is that O.o
[10:02] <Grimm3> sanskrit ?
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> serus: did you choose US - international?
[10:03] <Serus> Gnash or adobe? (I care about what works best)
[10:03] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Yes.
[10:03] <hitsujiTMO> Serus the tick key is acting as a modifier key
[10:04] <Serus> I know
[10:04] <Serus> But it works a bit different in windows as you can mix languages there.
[10:04] <Grimm3> o great , bootmrg is missing
[10:04] <Serus> I can also mix languages on the raspberry pi
[10:04] <marlo> \j #showoff-db
[10:05] <hitsujiTMO> serus: adobe don't support linux anymore. if you install chrome you get the flash pepper plugin which is the best one available
[10:05] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Adding it as eth0:0 didn't help ... will now try to disable it ...
[10:05] <vasislav> HELP
[10:05] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, Iḿ using FF
[10:05] <vasislav> intel 6205 wifi is giving me PROBLEMS
[10:06] <vasislav> its using the iwlwifi driver and "11n_disable=1" does not work
[10:06] <vasislav> is there some firmware?
[10:06] <hitsujiTMO> serus: i've no experience with gnash. but the adobe installer will install a slightly older flash player
[10:07] <Serus> I'll try gnash
[10:08] <dannymichel> so ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?
[10:08] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[10:08] <vasislav> 13.10
[10:08] <vasislav> Ubuntu Studio XFCE
[10:08] <linuxuz3r> is there skype for ubuntu
[10:08] <linuxuz3r> so dumb
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: is it working at all?
[10:09] <vasislav> yes but hangs all the time
[10:09] <vasislav> have to keep reloading pages
[10:09] <dannymichel> linuxuz3r, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> linuxuz3r: yes, you can get it from skype webiste
[10:09] <lecoeus>  Serus: i recommend that you do not try gnash
[10:09] <vasislav> switched hard drive to something with ath9k driver (atheros card) and its perfect
[10:09] <Serus> lecoeus, why not?
[10:09] <vasislav> meaning a machine with atheros instead of intel 6205
[10:09] <vasislav> switched card to intel 6300, problem persisted
[10:09] <lecoeus> it's a free replacement for flash from the fsf but it is not perfect
[10:10] <lecoeus> and when i say not perfect, i mean it is barely usable sometimes and not usable other times
[10:10] <olf-folks> ok long story short i installed ubuntu server followed by xinit and openbox  my sound is not working
[10:11] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: that's an old enough wireless card so you're prob on a decent driver for it. For issues like that it's simplest to just replace the card for one with better linux support
[10:11] <olf-folks> i installed alsa-utils  when i go to run alsamixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[10:11] <vasislav> hitsujiTMO, don't all intel cards have 11n problems?
[10:11] <vasislav> its gotten worse ever since kernel 3.5
[10:12] <vasislav> problem started in 3.8 kernel
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> vasislav: anyone i've seen has had to disable n
[10:12] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i installed the server edition like you said with the same results btw
[10:12] <vasislav> and in 3.11 is bad
[10:12] <dannymichel> so ubuntu 13.10 is QT now, which means gtk3x themes wont work very well on it to change my theme, so where do i get ubuntu 13.10 themes?
[10:12] <linuxuz3r> how do i install deb pkgs?
[10:12] <vasislav> disabling N only cut the problem in half
[10:12] <vasislav> ping become 250 instead of 560
[10:12] <olf-folks> linuxuz3r,  dpkg -i package.deb
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: so you installed: alsa and alsa-utils right?
[10:13] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: then you need to add yourself to the sound group and relog
[10:13] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i installed alsa-utils is alsa a septate package?
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yes you need to install alsa and alsa-utils
[10:14] <Grimm3> hey , im again trying to install windows , but this time it made 2 extra partitions , one system , one MSR , and then the primary windows partition  Is that this EFI partition talked about earlier ?
[10:14] <paperke67> Hi everybody, I cann't get my Atheros Wireless Network Adapter to work. Searched the net for several days. Could not find solution. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/
[10:14] <Grimm3> ( installing windows first before installing ubuntu , before i get shot here...)
[10:14] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok it says alsa is already newest ver
[10:15] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: once that is done add your user to sound group: sudo usermod -aG audio username                     make sure you do "-aG"
[10:15] <vasislav> HP in all its BRILLIANCE puts a wifi card LIST in the bios, so only approved cards will boot, otherwise it says to shutdown and remove the "unapproved" wifi card
[10:15] <vasislav> for elitebooks
[10:15] <vasislav> like some PROFITEERING GLUTTONS!
[10:16] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok i added myself to the group
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: then try alsamixer again
[10:16] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you pastebin the exact output of: alsamixer
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> vasislav: pays to shop smart then :)
[10:18] <vasislav> i do!
[10:18] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, it works as root maybe i need to relogin after adding my self to sound?
[10:18] <vasislav> but... but... i like those navpoint thing
[10:18] <Grimm3> hitsujiTMO, when im trying to install windows now , it created 3 partitions on the SSD , one 100mb system reserved , one 128mb MSR (reserved) , and then the primary partition. Is the MSR partition that EFI thing ? Is it ok like this ?
[10:18] <vasislav> only HP and Lenovo seem to make the pointer in the keyboard thing
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: yes you need to relog for groups to take place
[10:18] <olf-folks> kkbrb
[10:18] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: cool that first one should be the efi system partition
[10:19] <Grimm3> so just let be and install windows ?
[10:19] <vasislav> I"LL BE BACK, just wait for me here...
[10:19] <hitsujiTMO> grimm3: msr is probably BCD. yes install windows away
[10:20] <Grimm3> ok sweet ,  found the liveCD and a usb dvd drive , the live USB didnt create 3th partition
[10:20] <olf-folks> ok now alsamixer is working
[10:21] <Serus> Grimm3, Ofcourse it didn't
[10:21] <Gnik> QUIT
[10:21] <Grimm3> sounds like logic in your world , :D I have no idea whats going on hahahaha
[10:22] <paperke67> Need help. I'm not able to install my Atheros (AR5212/AR5213) wifi card. Can anybody help?
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: make sure master is not muted. m key will mute unmute it
[10:23] <simonsimcity> hitsujiTMO: Do you know what those entries in the dmesg could mean? http://pastebin.com/KYKLz4Xf Think it has something to do with the problem, even so it didn't occur again until now.
[10:25] <Grimm3> ok i got to go to the doctor now , ill let windows install meantime , when im back ill start the ubuntu process ,thank you for all advice already !
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> paperke67: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[10:26] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: i'm not up on apparmor but i believe you must tell it to configure it with a profile before it will act upon anything. if you haven't configured one then it should not be causing you an issue.
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: i could be wrong on that if there are default configurations set tho
[10:27] <vmachine> is it possible to open up a file in nano without the comment lines?
[10:27] <thomson112> does skype work on 13.10?
[10:29] <ljunggren> How is there no triplebuffer support for Linux?
[10:29] <ljunggren> Now when Steam for linux is released that should really come in handy
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> simonsimcity: hmm, just looked at my apparmor config files and there does seem to be some sort of default config there for dhclient
[10:31] <paperke67> ActionParsnip : Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> thomson112: should do, yes
[10:32] <DanielFew> If I wanted a user jailed in SFTP to say /home/network/directory, but needed them to be able to execute a file in SSH that's located in /home/network, what's the best way to go about doing this? Also the file they are executing in /home/network needs to be able to read and write to /home/network and /home/network/directory
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> paperke67: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[10:32] <paperke67> ActionParsnip: yes I do.
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: steam for linux was released a long time ago, and there is triple buffering available on linux. usually you have to enable it seperately
[10:33] <buu> DanielFew: Uh, symlinks?
[10:33] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: nvidia of ati?
[10:34] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, ati, can't find the settings anywhere and ive google it also =/ you know something?
[10:34] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, lack of it makes all my games totaly unplayable thou
[10:35] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, sound seems to not be working still
[10:36] <paperke67> ActionParsnip: this is output of scan http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363961/
[10:38] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, but when i unmute "PCM" and aplay a mp3 it makes a static noise from my speakers haha
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> ljunggren: forced tripple buffering seems to be removed from CCC. most games should have an option to enable triple buffering but you usually must have vsync enabled first
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you take a screenshot of the alsamixer. and can you give me a pastebin of: aplay -l
[10:42] <_dot> hello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?
[10:42] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64072/  and i dont know how to take a screenshot in ubuntu server with openbox
[10:43] <ljunggren> hitsujiTMO, no game i tested have this option, foolishnes to remove that from CCC :(
[10:43] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64073/ hope this works
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: you'll need to install something to take a sceenshot. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Taking_a_Screenshot just install the equivalent ubuntu package
[10:45] <olf-folks> i pasebined the alsamixer http://paste.debian.net/64073/
[10:45] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: unmute whatever master m    is
[10:46] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok i did and it says master mono
[10:46] <yeyeman> what is plymouth?
[10:47] <yeyeman> I got 4 crashes when I logged in right now
[10:47] <ianmac1> !plymouth
[10:47] <yeyeman> time to chop some heads
[10:48] <yeyeman> well maybe it's not so wise to uninstall it then
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: try changing the default pcm device to 4 in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[10:48] <ianmac1> yeyeman, good thing you asked first
[10:49] <hitsujiTMO> yeyemen . plymouth can usually be safely uninstalled. it's a recommended package not a dependant
[10:50] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok done
[10:50] <yeyeman> it's just that there are few things I hate more than pop ups after login
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: reboot and try again then
[10:51] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok ill be back
[10:52] <Jpmh> how do I disable the colors in vi ?
[10:53] <_dot> hello, does anyone else have problem locking user in his home directory with vsftpd ?
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> _dot: you're more likely to get help if you actually describe the problem
[10:56] <malinus> this should be installed with ubuntu: http://qntm.org/suicide
[10:56] <_dot> hitsujiTMO: i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories
[10:57] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | malinus and wouldn't work as linux protects you from running rm -rf /
[10:58] <Kartagis> hi
[10:58] <malinus> hitsujiTMO, it does? you mean you have to be root to run it, right?
[10:58] <hitsujiTMO> malinus: sorry, ubuntu does... but yeah even as root it should not work
[10:59] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, was there anything else?
[10:59] <Unkn0wn>  exit
[10:59] <louis__> hjoh
[10:59] <malinus> hitsujiTMO, I don't feel like trying, what kind of error would I get?
[11:00] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: enter alsamixer again and make sure master is unmuted
[11:00] <olf-folks> if 00 means unmuted then yeah
[11:01] <Kartagis> yesterday, I attempted to install cinnamon, but now there is nothing on my desktop. can I switch to gnome somehow. there is no "logout" either so I can't do it from there
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> till no sound?
[11:01] <Danato> is anybody available to help me with an installation issue?
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: still no sound?
[11:01] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, nada
[11:02] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: what are you trying to play?
[11:02] <olf-folks> i have 2 mp3s and a wav and i also tryed chromeium-browser youtube and a few other things
[11:02] <Danato> ill wait till theres somebody available
[11:03] <louis__> golmjhfjhnpioj
[11:03] <louis__> ,; ,:k nxnkb
[11:03] <clijnen> ffkldfhh
[11:03] <louis__> yo
[11:03] <clijnen> yo
[11:03] <Kartagis> Danato: ask your real question
[11:03] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: hmm. what are you terying to play them with aplay?
[11:03] <louis__> bla
[11:03] <clijnen> bla
[11:03] <louis__> spelletje spelen,
[11:03] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, the 2 mp3s and the wav file
[11:03] <ragok> hi all
[11:04] <louis__> sex
[11:04] <louis__> andµ
[11:04] <DJones> louis__: Please stop that, this is a support channel
[11:04] <Fudge> Hi after upgrading some packages on a natty system ssh now gives this error
[11:04] <Fudge> Last login: Fri Oct 25 11:42:15 2013 from 147.69.69.91
[11:04] <Fudge> /bin/bash: No such file or directory
[11:04] <louis__> drugs
[11:04] <louis__> en rock n roll
[11:04] <ragok> how to run a webcam in ubuntu
[11:04] <louis__> ok
[11:04] <louis__> you put them in the dishwasher
[11:04] <Fudge> anyone have any ideas what could becausing this
[11:04] <louis__> and then you try again
[11:04] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: but you're using aplay to try and play them?
[11:05] <Danato> Kartagis: Im trying to install ubuntu but its not recognizing any of my partitions, it shows the whole disk as free space
[11:05] <olf-folks> louis__, the bannhammer will get you if you dont be careful
[11:05] <clijnen> don't listen to louis_
[11:05] <ragok> answer my question  how to run a webcam in ubuntu
[11:05] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, yeah i tryed aplay
[11:05] <louis__> dont listen to clijnen, he is a virgin
[11:05] <clijnen> louis_ is gay
[11:05] <Fudge> ragok  bit rude, usually they just work, look at lsusb output to see if it has been detected
[11:06] <ragok> can u explain me further fudge
[11:06] <Fudge> Danato  single hard drive?
[11:06] <cheesecakes> ragok: you could optionally use cheese
[11:06] <Fudge> ragok  open a console or gnome terminal and type lsusb and look for something like your webcam
[11:06] <cheesecakes> start it and you should see video
[11:06] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you screenshot / pastebin alsamixer again
[11:06] <ragok> i did but it did not display anything dude
[11:07] <Kartagis> ragok: create a /etc/modprobe.d/uvcideo.conf and put the line options uvcvideo something=16 (I don't remember what the "something" is)
[11:07] <Fudge> lol
[11:07] <cheesecakes> wtf is happening here
[11:07] <cheesecakes> lolz
[11:07] <ragok> wat do u want to happen cheesecakes
[11:08] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64078/
[11:08] <cheesecakes> ragok: people behaving themselves
[11:08] <ragok> but iam and i dont know about others dear
[11:08] <Danato> Fudge: sory for taking too long, i was on the phone. so yeah, ive got win 7 installed in my pc, but it doesnt even see that with ubuntu live cd
[11:08] <Danato> *sorry
[11:09] <_dot> hello i am using vsftpd and i'd like to lock user to his home directory, but it does not work he can list all other directories
[11:09] <Danato> my laptop came pre-installed with windows 8.1, I uninstalled and installed windows 7 btw
[11:10] <cheesecakes> ragok: opening a query is not called behaving yourself
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: can you put defaults.pcm.device 0 back in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf and post the contents of /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf
[11:10] <Jumuri> is the NSA listening on this conv?
[11:10] <cheesecakes> Jumuri: yes
[11:10] <Jumuri> this is important
[11:10] <Pumpkin-> who knows, maybe !
[11:10] <ragok> hello r u thrthen u teach me
[11:10] <Jumuri> im being attacked by a giant beaver
[11:10] <Jumuri> nooooooooo
[11:11] <DJones> Jumuri: Please stay on topic, this is Ubuntu support only
[11:11] <ragok> cheesecake teach me the manners
[11:11] <IdleOne> Please stop with the nonsense, this is a support channel. Not a playground
[11:11] <phix> what's the go with the cyrus package?  I turn on altnamespace and unixheirarchy and when I create a folder it tried to create it at the root of the entire cyrus mail directory instead of within the user I am logged in as
[11:11] <phix> or would this be a mutt issue?
[11:11] <ragok> u do ur work idleone
[11:12] <DJones> ragok: Stop that. Please stay on topic which is Ubuntu support
[11:12] <IdleOne> ragok: I am, part of that work is to try and keep this channel sane enough for people to get support.
[11:12] <malinus> hecking gpg signature of some software I download. Shouldn't I just be able to do gpg --verify *.asc *.tar.xz ?
[11:12] <malinus> I just get gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Sep 2013 08:16:39 AM CEST using RSA key ID 969276F5  gpg: Can't check signature: public key not foun
[11:12] <malinus> *checking
[11:12] <ragok> k then tell me how to access my webcam in ubuntu 13.10
[11:13] <IdleOne> install the application called cheese and test it
[11:13] <ragok> i have tested but niothing happned
[11:13] <DJones> ragok: Please be patient, it would help if you can give details of the make & model of webcam etc first, give the details to the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help
[11:14] <DJones> ragok: Also pastebin the results of "lsusb"
[11:14] <ragok> mine is hp all in oine model and it is fine with  my win 7 dude
[11:14] <Emay> Hi, I'm hoping to get some support on installing ubuntu 14.02.3 am I in the right place?
[11:15] <cheesecakes> Emay: yes
[11:15] <Danato> im also waiting for that Emay
[11:15] <DJones> Emay: There is no such thing as 14.02.3
[11:16] <Emay> I'm new to linux and im having no luck installing
[11:16] <ragok> dude waht abt my problem djnes
[11:16] <Emay> ok, maybe that's my problem
[11:17] <IdleOne> ragok: your first problem is your txt typing, please use proper English in here. Second, you need to give more details
[11:17] <ragok> man u suck f--k --f
[11:17] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.debian.net/64082/
[11:17] <Emay> I got the link froma reliable friend which was to the ubuntu website & the file I dl was ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64
[11:17] <Danato> cool down man
[11:17] <Kartagis> hi again
[11:18] <Danato> so how can i solve my problem? ubuntu doesnt recognize any partitions in my pc
[11:19] <Kartagis> I installed cinnamon yesterday but now there is nothing on my desktop now. how can I switch back to gnome?
[11:19] <Danato> ive tried the solution from this page and it ddnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604074&page=4
[11:19] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: log out and while entering password to log in , click on the ubuntu logo and choose gnome/unity or what ever you want to use
[11:20] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: I can't logout, the icon is gone
[11:21] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: are you getting noise when running: speaker-test -c 2
[11:21] <CatKiller> d
[11:21] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: do you see the menu button?
[11:21] <Jumuri> Kartagis: the same thing happend to me :)
[11:21] <Jumuri> use command shutdown -h now
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: no!
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ctrl + c to cancel the noise btw
[11:22] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: by "there is nothing on my desktop" I mean "there is NOTHING on my desktop"
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: ok
[11:22] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: are you talking from a second computer?
[11:22] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, OMG static :D we have made progress
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what type of partitions are they?
[11:22] <pers3us> Hey Guys! I am trying to find out what all devices (removable storage) are connected to my system, no matter mounted or unmounted. What is the best way to do so?
[11:22] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: just the wallpaper
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: i see
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: ok. seems alsa is able to output to your speakers alright.
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: I'm on MacOS now
[11:23] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, and to think i was about to slam my face on the desk and pull he power cable out of my computer
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: is ubuntu another partition on the same system?
[11:23] <eraggo> pers3us: lsusb is one way (if them are usb storages)
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: yes
[11:23] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: dualboot
[11:23] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: do you have auto -login enabled?
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: if not you can change the window manager while logging in
[11:24] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: sadly, yes
[11:24] <pers3us> eraggo: This shows a lot of stuffs which aren't additional storages.
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: otherwise, change to another tty(ctrl+alt+f1), then login using your name and password
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: then run this command:service lightdm restart
[11:24] <pers3us> eraggo: Which is kind of expected, as some internal devices are also connected via usb
[11:24] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: i think that will log you out
[11:24] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: It had windows 8.1 pre-installed and i formated the whole disk to NTSF to install windows 7
[11:25] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO,  so if i can make static why cant i make music or other sounds?
[11:25] <Kartagis> cheesecakes: can I somehow change the auto-login system whilst in the root shell?
[11:25] <Kartagis> or recovery
[11:25] <eraggo> pers3us: yup. No idea how to show only storage devices
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: have a look again in alsamixer: keep going right to see if there's other important channels that need unmuting.
[11:25] <cheesecakes> Kartagis:i dont know the way sorry
[11:25] <Emay> I'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.
[11:26] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: this is easy right?
[11:26] <Kartagis> service lightdm restart, got it
[11:26] <Kartagis> brb
[11:26] <Kartagis> thanks
[11:26] <cheesecakes> Kartagis:just add sudo in front
[11:26] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i unmuted everyting
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: you in the live cd now?
[11:26] <Danato> yes
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: aplay again
[11:27] <cheesecakes> Kartagis: dont forget sudo
[11:27] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, ok it works now
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you tell me the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | olf-folks
[11:28] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, thanks a ton!
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> np
[11:28] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ill put in pastebin for you
[11:29] <Emay> can anyone help?
[11:29] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  http://pastebin.com/GhqqbEwc
[11:29] <mjayk> Emay: whats up
[11:30] <Emay> I'm trying to install ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64. At the first purple screen (with options like check disc integrity) my usb KB is working & I can navigate just find to install ubuntu. It then loads to another screen giving me the options again to Try or install, but my KB is no longer working.
[11:30] <Emay> I have never use linux b4, so it's realy been hard to troubleshoot on my own
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Emay: what video chip are you using?
[11:31] <eraggo> it is used by mouse Emay ... jk
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Emay: or chips
[11:31] <Emay> Geforce GT 630
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its visible alright. when you booted the usb did you boot as USB:device name    or UEFI:device name ?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Emay: does the system use a switchable GPU (Ivy/Sabybridge Intel CPU)?
[11:32] <Emay> No idea
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Emay: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[11:33] <vijaya> can anyone tell me how to crosscompile "arora" for arm....
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Emay: same method, different option :)
[11:33] <Emay> & I have a UEFI bios, so I have tried changing all from UEFI to Legacy only
[11:33] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  cant tell for sure, is there a way to check that? because i ddnt have that option, and i used a dvd
[11:34] <vijaya> can anyone tell me how to crosscompile arora for arm....
[11:35] <Emay> I will try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 & see how it goes, tyvm
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> Donato: not sure how dvds boot options work. Ok, in what way does the installer not see windows partitions?
[11:36] <yeyeman> anyway to change the start up loading screen? purple is getting kind of old
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: is this 32bit or 64bit ubuntu btw?
[11:38] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  its 64bit
[11:39] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  ok when i choose the option Something else, it shows me a table. On device /dev/sda it only shows free space
[11:39] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:  the whole disk space is shown free
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: Thats either a bug in the installer, or ubuntu cannot work with a gpt filesytem that has an mbr bootstrap
[11:41] <Danato> hitsujiTMO:   do you think this can solve the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705325
[11:43] <suigeneris> hi
[11:43] <Kitar|st> http://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!
[11:43] <DJones> Kitar|st: Please don't use this channel to advertise, its purely a support channel for Ubuntu
[11:44] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: this is kartagis. I tried sudo lightdm restart but it did no good :S
[11:44] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: possibly: but that could also damage your windows install. it does fit the issue that you are having
[11:44] <suigeneris> btw, I'm on ubuntu now (irssi)
[11:45] <MrQuist> Kitar|st, your dog dies.
[11:45] <suigeneris> should I uninstall cinnamon? or is there a package called cinnamon-desktop?
[11:46] <suigeneris> Jumuri: how did you fix your issue?
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: your main issue seems to be that you've a gpt partition scheme, but you've installed windows as if you're using mbr.
[11:47] <suigeneris> brb
[11:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: is there a way to fix that?
[11:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: the tool you mentioned seems to be built for such a task, but i've never testedd it or seen it before, so I don't know if it's reliable
[11:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: it seems that it has worked for some ppl, so id like to give it a shot, but im being able to install it
[11:50] <Danato> i went to the download page http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.8/fixparts-binaries/
[11:50] <ze_pistolas> ola povo... daqui fala da UBI... é so para avisar que quero é bola baixa aqui no canal!! e Fedora RULLEZZZ!!!
[11:51] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: and downloaded the amd64.deb one but it fails to install
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <ze_pistolas> FEDORA
[11:51] <FloodBot1> ze_pistolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:51] <vijaya> is there any one can help in qt application cross compiling
[11:51] <vijaya> for arm
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: whats the error?
[11:52] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: (Reading database ... 100%
[11:52] <Danato> (Reading database ... 161628 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:52] <Danato> Unpacking fixparts (from .../tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb) ...
[11:52] <Danato> dpkg: error processing /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):
[11:53] <Danato> does that mean that its already installed?
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: no. broken .deb file more likely. can you try redownload it?
[11:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ok
[11:56] <Emay> Hi, someone suggested to me to try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 to help solve a USB issue. For some reason (I must be doing something wrong) I can't get it to install with boot options
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: if that doesn't work try an earlier release: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/files/gptfdisk/0.8.7/fixparts-binaries/fixparts_0.8.7-2_amd64.deb/download
[11:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: yeah it ddnt work. I will
[11:58] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: same error :/ btw im using Ubuntu Software Center
[11:59] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: are you there?
[12:00] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you try install it from command line: sudo dpkg -i /tmp/fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb
[12:00] <suigeneris> jordan: maybe you can help me? you helped me in the past
[12:02] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: dpkg: error processing fixparts_0.8.8-1_amd64.deb (--install):
[12:02] <Danato>  trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/fixparts', which is also in package gptfdisk 0.8.8-1
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: seems to be installed already so :P
[12:03] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah ok then :)
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: follow the instructions here ... including backing up your current table
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[12:04] <suigeneris> who can help me switch back to GNOME?
[12:04] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I was already at it, thanks :)
[12:07] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: ????
[12:07] <mjayk> suigeneris: what do you mean do you still have gnome installed
[12:07] <Emay> I can't install ubuntu via CD as USB KB stops working by the 2nd install screen. I have tried installing via windows (where my KB & mouse work) but fails everytime a few secons into installing. Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:08] <mjayk> Emay: you've got me stumped are you using any usb hubs like the usb ports on the front of the case ?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Emay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?
[12:08] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: I did sudo lightdm restart, but it did no good
[12:08] <Emay> Mjaka: No, im using rear ports
[12:08] <cheesecakes> mjayk: cinnamon is hanging on him, for some reason, and he wants to change his window manager
[12:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: on the first backup step i got this error "bash: parts.txt: Permission denied"
[12:09] <suigeneris> (this is kartagis by the way)
[12:09] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: can you tell me what happened when you did that?
[12:09] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: i figured :)
[12:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I already tried using sudo before the command btw
[12:09] <mjayk> Emay: not a usb 3.0 port or anything like that ?
[12:10] <Emay> Mjayk: I did notice in the install log via windows repeated errors eg: checking whether D:\ is a valid Ubuntu CD wrong version: 12.04.3 != 12.04.2
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: where are you trying to save parts to?
[12:10] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: where are you trying to save parts.txt to?
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: are you in ubuntu right now or another OS
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Emay: did you try unplugging and replugging in the keyboard?
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: it would be better if you can do both
[12:10] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: i mean get a second machine to help you walk through it
[12:10] <Emay> Mjayk: No I double checked that I was only using the USB 2.0 ports
[12:10] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: went back to desktop, still no icons. I'm on ubuntu cli, irssi
[12:11] <cheesecakes> ok good
[12:11] <cheesecakes> give me a second
[12:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try: sfdisk -d /dev/sdc > ~/parts.txt
[12:11] <suigeneris> cheesecakes: I'll get a second machine as soon as wife is done with hers
[12:11] <Emay> ActionParsnip: I have tried different ports. I even bought a new wired USB KB today as my other was wireless
[12:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I never specified the path, i guess i should
[12:12] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: this is also fine too
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Emay: have you set the usb ports to legacy mode in BIOS?
[12:12] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: in the desktop does alt+f2 work?
[12:12] <cheesecakes> does it give you run command?
[12:12] <suigeneris> nope
[12:12] <suigeneris> actually, let me see again
[12:13] <Emay> ActionParsnip: Yes, my bios is UEFI, so I changed all to Legacy only
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue     is Cinammon hanging?
[12:13] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: yup cinnamon is hanging
[12:13] <cheesecakes> he can see the wallpaper nothing more
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: are you the one with the issue?
[12:13] <Emay> ActionParsnip: Also as suggest in the install guide to try disabling Legacy. None of these options work
[12:13] <taofuyu> hello
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: ah, that clarifies :)
[12:13] <cheesecakes> ActionParsnip: no, sorry
[12:13] <cheesecakes> i was just helping
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> cheesecakes: no worries, just wanted to make sure I was targetting correctly :)
[12:14] <cheesecakes> :)
[12:14] <taofuyu> ?
[12:14] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: you back?
[12:14] <taofuyu> yes
[12:14] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: /dev/sdc: No such file or directory
[12:14] <Danato> sfdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc for reading
[12:14] <cheesecakes> taofuyu: is that you suigeneris?
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: /dev/sda for your drive
[12:15] <suigeneris> no alt+f2 doesn't work
[12:15] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: ok here's what you do
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue    please, you can press CTRL+ALT+F1   and run it there
[12:15] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: 13.10
[12:15] <olf-folks> openbox seems to not be starting ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: when you're done that can you pastebin the contents of parts.txt
[12:16] <taofuyu> 有中国的吗
[12:16] <chemist> hello hitsujiTMO
[12:16] <chemist> what's up
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: hey
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: thats not the output
[12:16] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: It jst says permission denied
[12:16] <chemist> hitsujiTMO i was wondering if you could help me out with something
[12:16] <taofuyu> 有中国的吗
[12:16] <taofuyu> 我想请教个问题
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: spill away what the issue is
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: it is a bit more complex than that
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda > ~/parts.txt                    that giving the permission denied error?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> !cn | taofuyu
[12:18] <chemist> i'm using a windows vst-plugin with my ubuntu-studio ... i managed to get the plugin loaded and ready to play... i now need to load the instrument kits which are located on my wine c-drive ... but the application that uses the plugin in linux can not access this folder
[12:18] <chemist> is there a way to make a folder in my home folder that points to that folder on my wine disk?
[12:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: ah it worked with sudo
[12:18] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util sfdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[12:18] <chemist> so that i don't have to copy/paste all those filex
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: ahh, i've no experience with wine tbh.
[12:19] <debnoob> I am mounting an ext4 internal hdd partition with udisks. It mounts but but only root has write access. I tried the following commands : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364324/
[12:19] <chemist> hitsujiTMO the issue is that the application i use for making music can not access hidden folders.... (./wine) so i can not specify the location of my instrument kits
[12:19] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: can you pastebin the full contents of the parts.txt
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> debnoob: tried mounting using 'mount' instead...?
[12:20] <tirengarfio> I have to give the port of my monitor for a vnc connection, since I have two monitors, after installing vnc, I get this: VNC Display :0 corresponds to TCP port 5900, VNC Display :1 corresponds to TCP port 5901. How can I know what is my display 0 and my display 1?
[12:20] <geirha> debnoob: sudo chown "$USER:" /media/dev # after it is mounted
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> chemist: can you not symlink to the folder? does it follow symlinks?
[12:20] <chemist> the question: is there a way to point a folder to that location? .... similar to mounting a disk in /media ?
[12:21] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: sure
[12:21] <taofuyu> closed
[12:21] <taofuyu> ubuntu 13.10
[12:21] <taofuyu> 64bit
[12:21] <chemist> hitsujiTMO nevermind...i managed to make it work :D
[12:22] <debnoob> ActionParsnip, geirha: I wanted to do the mounting inside a shell script, so sudo is not an option.
[12:22] <chemist> i just realized i haven't got any kits installed ;DDDDDDDD stupid
[12:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/DPh7UxA2
[12:22] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: give me a minute and ill be back
[12:22] <geirha> debnoob: setting uid/username during mount is something you do with FAT and NTFS, since they don't support unix permissions. ext4 support unix permissions, so you change the ownership and permissions using chown and chmod to the desired ownership and permissions
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its a mbr partition layout allright ... just stuck with a gpt signature
[12:23] <suigeneris> sorry, baby cried
[12:23] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: have to quit irssi then, just a sec
[12:24] <geirha> debnoob: The sudo chown command I showed earlier is a one-time thing. Afterwards, it will be owned by your user.
[12:24] <debnoob> geirha: but wouldn't that need root
[12:24] <debnoob> geirha: doesn't udisk remove the mount point once its unmounted
[12:25] <cheesecakes> suigeneris: so any progress?
[12:25] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[12:25] <geirha> debnoob: probably, but that's irrelevant
[12:25] <indistylo> Yes
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed
[12:27] <geirha> debnoob: After doing the sudo chown on it (while it's mounted), next time you mount it, it will have that (new) ownership still.
[12:27] <TrD> hi all
[12:27]  * cheesecakes afk
[12:27] <geirha> debnoob: regardless of which user initiates the mounting
[12:27] <Emay> Maybe someone could look at my log file, it may explain why it's failing the install?
[12:28] <Rory> Sure Emay put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <Emay> Rory: Ty, pated
[12:29] <Emay> Pasted*
[12:29] <debnoob> geirha: It worked! thanks, didn't think the folder would hold the permission once unmounted. Looks like a feature of ext
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> suigeneris: tried something like XFCE as a desktop? You can install it by installing xfce4 package
[12:30] <geirha> debnoob: This is common for unix-y filesystems. It's FAT and NTFS and similar that are exceptions
[12:30] <Rory> Emay: Waiting
[12:31] <Rory> Emay: You have to actually tell me what the URL is, I'm not a magician :)
[12:31] <debnoob> geirha: been a win guy for so long :)
[12:31] <geirha> debnoob: Since they don't support unix permissions and ownership, you instead say during mounting that all files shall be owned by foo and have mode 644 etc
[12:31] <suigeneris> ActionParsnip: no, not yet. I'm now trying to recover by doing what you are telling me. let me try that
[12:31] <Emay> Rory: Sorry, new to IRC & Linux http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364380/
[12:31] <suigeneris> brb
[12:32] <Rory> Emay: Can you fill me in on some background to your problem, that looks like Windows stuff to me
[12:32] <Hounddog> Hello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...
[12:33] <debnoob> geirha: my thought was the permission of mountpoint is only stored on the root filesystem. but now i know.
[12:33] <Hounddog> its directly login me in qt commqndline
[12:33] <Emay> Rory: I had 1st tried to install via USB & CD. At the 2nd install screen my USB KB stops working. I also tried via windows which fail short way through install (the log is from the windows install).
[12:34] <Rory> Emay: Do you mean using Wubi?
[12:34] <Emay> Rory: via the widows install, yes
[12:34] <hounndo_2> Hello, i am not able to start my desktop anymore after trying to install fglrx and removing it again...
[12:34] <gcds> Hello, I need good HTTP proxy server for production use, maybe with even filtering and so on
[12:35] <hounndo_2> it is directly login me in to the commmandline and am a bit lost how to restore things again
[12:35] <Rory> Emay: It looks like Wubi is failing to download the disk image somehow. I'd recommend doing a "real" install (booting from a USB or CD) rather than using Wubi, because it can cause weird problems later down the line, has restrictions on total install size, and has theoretical performance issues
[12:35] <Rory> !md5 | Emay can you verify your installation .iso before burning it?
[12:37] <Emay> Rory: I did try via USB & CD install 1st. But my KB only works in the 1st part (with options like check disc integrity) then loads another screen with the options again to try or install, this is where my KB stops working
[12:37] <sssssdfr> ciao!list
[12:38] <cfhowlett> wubi is for TESTING not for long-term installation.
[12:38] <Emay> Rory: Yes, the USB failed, but the CD was verified
[12:38] <Rory> Emay: Do you have access to another keyboard?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Emay, usb's do fail frequently and without warning ...
[12:38] <sssssdfr> no
[12:38] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: how did you create the usb?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hounndo_2: what ATI GPU do you have?
[12:39] <Emay> Rory: I have a wireless KB, so I bought a brand new wired USB KB today, same thing
[12:39] <Emay> & no, I didn't check the MD5 Checksome
[12:39] <hitsujiTMO> emay: you need to md5 sum the iso to make sure it was downloaded correctly
[12:40] <Emay> Thank you, I will try that now.
[12:41] <hounndo_2> ActionParsnip:i have Hd 7950
[12:41] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: are you still there?
[12:41] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: yes
[12:41] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have to repo for the same packets; hoiw can i set the pinning in preferences on one repos ?
[12:42] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: have you tried running fixparts yet?
[12:42] <perish> hello
[12:43] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: isnt that what I trying to do when it told me that Ive got no permission for that?
[12:43] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: try running fixparts now: sudo fixparts /dev/sda                     once that's done reboot and make sure windows still works. then boot the installer and see if it's fixed
[12:43] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: ah wait that was the backup
[12:43] <suigeneris> would things be fixed if I reinstalled gnome?
[12:44] <perish> anyone can tell me how to install ATI driver for HD2600 on 12.04lts?
[12:44] <suigeneris> !ati | perish
[12:45] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: ill be pasting what im finding on pastebin
[12:45] <suigeneris> forget it, I'm reinstalling ubuntu
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !ati
[12:46] <suigeneris> brb
[12:49] <troulouliou_dev> is it a good pinning filter : Pin: origin ppa.launchpad.net/noobslab/mint/ubuntu/
[12:49] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO: http://oi43.tinypic.com/x1j4tl.jpg
[12:50] <Discordian93> hello
[12:50] <Discordian93> I need some help with the propietary nvidia drivers
[12:50] <cfhowlett> !nvidia|Discordian93,
[12:50] <gaetan> Bonjour
[12:50] <cfhowlett> gaetan, greetings
[12:50] <Discordian93> I have installed nvidia-current and now ubuntu won't boot unless I go from the recovery mode screen
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: just hit w .... then reboot and try and boot to windows
[12:51] <gaetan> Oh sorry, forgot this chat is in english
[12:51] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: if that works you should be able to install ubuntu propperly from the installer then
[12:51] <hadifarnoud> I just discovered hashcat. I understand it can crack WPA/WPA2 hashs too. how can I get WPA hash anyway? I'm going to experiment on home wifi
[12:53] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  that will overwrite existing partitions. . .
[12:53] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  ill still do it :P
[12:53] <hounndo_2> can anyone help me to get my desktop back after removing fglrx?
[12:53] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: it overwrite the table. you havent changed the partitions
[12:53] <Discordian93> ubottu: that page is of no help, my problem isn't listed
[12:54] <TrD> i'm using Ubuntu 12.04LTS i want ti activate my second Wifi adapter (usb dongle)
[12:55] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  done
[12:55] <TrD> i installed ndiswrapper and the driver
[12:55] <hitsujiTMO> Danato_: restart and hope windows boots :P
[12:55] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  everything is still there, ill try to boot windows, then use the life cd again
[12:56] <Danato_> hitsujiTMO:  ok hehe
[12:56] <TrD> but Ubuntu dont enable this adapter
[12:56] <Discordian93> can't anybody help me? I have this really bizarre problem where ubuntu won't boot unless I do it from recovery mode after installing the nvidia driver, but the nvidia driver does work once I boot from recovery mode
[12:56] <TrD> anyone can help me ?
[12:57] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | Discordian93
[12:58] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: is the nomodeset doesn't work, come back to us and we'll try a few other things
[12:58] <Discordian93> kk, though according to that thread, nomodeset shouldn' be needed for the propietary drivers, but I'll try anyway
[13:01] <perish> where to find a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu12.04lts?
[13:01] <Emay> Hi, someone suggested that I do a MD5Sum check, I did and it said it was correct. So I am still unsure why I can't install
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> perish: it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[13:02] <hitsujiTMO> EmayL what tool are you using to create the bootable USB
[13:03] <Discordian93_> kthx guys, nomodeset worked
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93_: if its working then there's a chance that its not actually using the proprietary drivers. have a look in Xorg.0.log t see what driver is being used
[13:03] <Emay> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.4.4 after a few times getting an error I tried CD
[13:03] <perish> it keeps searching for eternity
[13:03] <Rory> Emay: As well as checking the integrity of the .iso file, it's important to check the burn was correct - when you first boot from the CD or USB, there'll be a purple screen with a keyboard symbol at the bottom - press any key to access a menu. One of the options will be to verify the integrity of the install medium
[13:04] <Discordian93_> where is that file?
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: that has issues for most people. Try using linux live usb or unetbootin.
[13:04] <Rory> Emay: My favourite is this tool http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> Emay: also burn as slowly as you can
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:05] <perish> damn
[13:05] <Emay> Rory: That is the screen where my KB still works & I did run the check CD integrity. The USB integrity did fail, not the CD
[13:05] <perish> anyone please tell me is there really a driver for ati hd2600 for ubuntu 12.04lts
[13:05] <Discordian93_> I don't understand that file, but the final line is [    50.405] (**) NVIDIA(0):     been enabled on all display devices.)
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: most likely the problem is caused by universal usb installer. Most people that have been on here that have used it have had issues.
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> perish: there is a legacy ppa fglrx
[13:06] <Rory> perish: A driver is included with Ubuntu, already installed
[13:06] <Discordian93_> so i guess that means the nvidia driver is active?
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> pathy: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[13:06] <perish> action:where to find that?
[13:06] <hitsujiTMO> perish: As I've already said. it should be in the repos. Goto System Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[13:07] <ActionPa1snip> perish: knew you'd ask....people don't tend to search the web these days
[13:07] <Emay> hitsujiTMO: I am not using a USB hub, im using the rear USB 2.0 ports
[13:07] <perish> for your information for 2 days im searching for an working driver...
[13:07] <perish> bit cant find any
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> Emay: not saying anything about a hub. talking about the software used to create the usd installer. try linuxliveusb.com
[13:08] <perish> they are not getting installed
[13:08] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93_: can you post the contents of the Xorg.0.log file in pastebin
[13:08] <Emay> hitsujiTMO: I just realised I read it wrong sorry, ok I will try linuxliveusb.com
[13:11] <Discordian93> http://pastebin.com/zPQb6E2P
[13:11] <Discordian93> that's my Xorg.0.log
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: yes it seems to be using the proprietary driver alright
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: you may need to look at the nomodeset instructions again to permanently enable nomodeset
[13:13] <Discordian93> Oh, I used the instruction for doing so permanently
[13:13] <Discordian93> else it wouldn't work after rebooting
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> Discordian93: ah cool. you should be set so
[13:14] <Kitar|st> http://www.twitch.tv/kitarist88 right now i'm playing Call of Duty: Ghosts so if you are interested please join in!!!
[13:15] <hounndo_2> looks like i can only reinstall stuff... no matter what i am trying, i am not able to boot to desktop only to commandline
[13:15] <jrib> Kitar|st: that's not appropriate for this channel
[13:17] <suigeneri> hi
[13:18] <cfhowlett> suigeneri, greetings
[13:18] <suigeneri> reinstalled ubuntu and disabled auto-login just in case
[13:18] <Booga> yes Hello
[13:20] <dol> is there anyone who can help me with the alsa configuration?
[13:20] <Discordian93> well, thanks for everything, checked again another way and yup, i'm running the propietary driver. Hopefully now I'll be able to run DOTA 2 in peace.
[13:20] <Booga> Yes
[13:21] <hounndo_2> Discordian93:lol i also was trying for dota
[13:21] <hounndo_2> or still am... but my system is screwed currently not able to boot to desktop at all anymore
[13:21] <Booga> Yes I can help with ALSA config.
[13:22] <dol> Booga, I have a PCM hw type and I want to upscale my rate
[13:22] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: that sucks man. Are you using nvidia? have you tried following what I've done?
[13:22] <hounndo_2> ati
[13:22] <dol> I couldn't do it
[13:22] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: sucks. ati linux drivers are crap
[13:23] <Booga> yh
[13:23] <dol> do you want to see my config file?
[13:23] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: not venen webgl works with them, for fucks's sake!
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !language
[13:23] <Discordian93> sorry
[13:24] <Discordian93> won't happen again
[13:24] <suigeneris> I am trying install kvirc. it says no qt4 or qt5 found. I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.0
[13:24] <dol> Booga, check this: http://pastebin.com/YNfamhnX
[13:24] <dol> so, I want to upscale the rate to 44800 for 0,3 hw
[13:24] <user82> does anyone have experience with wine regedit? do i need to point it to the windows path of the mounted drive, to mess with a existing windows registry?
[13:25] <hounndo_2> Discordian93:thats when i gave up and tried removing it again and now i am stuck on console
[13:26] <dol> Booga?
[13:26] <Booga> Yes
[13:26] <dol> have you checked my config file?
[13:26] <hounndo_2> reconfigure xserver-xorg also just tells me it is not installed
[13:27] <Discordian93> hounndo_2: sorry man :(. I specifically bought nvidia because it works well with linux, have ran ubuntu for a year with no trouble until a couple of days ago. I guess you'll have to backup and reinstall, sometimes the xserver gets completely totalled and there's no way to restore it, happened to me a couple of times when i ran ATI
[13:27] <hounndo_2> would be great if anyone would be willing to help
[13:27] <Booga> Hav u checked it under the terminal command
[13:27] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: how did you install and uninstall the drivers?
[13:27] <hounndo_2> apt
[13:28] <Booga> alsamixergui?
[13:28] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: using apt
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you run: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[13:29] <Booga> mkokl
[13:29] <Booga> Dol?
[13:30] <hounndo_2> seems i cannot run that...
[13:30] <Booga> ggyh
[13:30] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: whats the error?
[13:30] <dol> Booga, I don't have alsamixergui
[13:31] <hounndo_2> not using locking for readonly lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> dol, booga: alsamixer
[13:31] <Booga> Can you install it?
[13:31] <dol> I have alsamixer and everything is unmuted
[13:31] <dol> Booga, it will take too much time because I am actuially running in another operatuing system
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: and you have no gui?
[13:32] <hounndo_2> none whatsoever
[13:32] <adamk> hounndo_2: Are you running dpkg or apt-get in another terminal?
[13:32] <Booga> Check the master sound settings and if not, check your cables.
[13:32] <hounndo_2> nope
[13:33] <hounndo_2> i am only running 1 terminal not connected through ssh or anything
[13:33] <adamk> hounndo_2: Is it somehow possible for you to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[13:33] <dol> Booga, I guess you didn't get my question. My question is just how to convert the rate to another rate in asound.conf
[13:33] <McManiaC> any idea why my tmux wont show 256 colors in vim properly, even though i already setup TERM=screen-256color (shown by echo $TERM)?
[13:33] <hounndo_2> well it will take a while as i would need to manually copy it
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you reboot and try: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[13:34] <dol> hitsujiTMO, do you know how I can convert the rate in asound.conf?
[13:34] <adamk> hounndo_2: If you are unable to install pastebinit with apt-get, but you aren't running running another other package management utility, there's something wrong with your system.  Try rebooting and installing pastebinit.
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> dol: fraid not, never messed with alsa in that way
[13:35] <dol> ok thanks
[13:35] <dol> I tried #alsa irc but noone helps there
[13:35] <hounndo_2> i just rebootet and am now able to install it, even though before it was also freshly rebootet
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: install pastebinit and then: dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[13:37] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/
[13:37] <hounndo_2> ups
[13:37] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364683/
[13:37] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: alst: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[13:38] <ActionPa1snip> hitsujiTMO: waste of a cat, pastebinit can take files as input.  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    will work too
[13:38] <hitsujiTMO> ActionPa1snip: ahh didn't realise. thanks
[13:39] <hounndo_2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364698/
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: fglrx is still installed. what gpu do you have?
[13:39] <hounndo_2> Ati Radeon hd 7950
[13:39] <adamk> hounndo_2: Which driver are you trying to use: fglrx or radeon?
[13:39] <wedgetail> Hi guys, i need help. i installed Ubuntu studio using Windows USB Creator. I have used it a few times and now when start it up it asks for a password?? I did not use a password. Anybody know this problem??
[13:40] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, you sure you didn't set a pwd on the usb?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> and what are you doing to invoke the pwd request?
[13:41] <wedgetail> yes cf i am sure
[13:41] <goldstar> hi guys, in my applications, when hovering over a menu item, either nothing shows or the menu drops down but no text. Pls advice
[13:41] <goldstar> i am using saucy
[13:41] <hounndo_2> adamk:was trying to use fglrx
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: the radeon driver doesn't support your gpu. you were probably running fglrx in the first place
[13:42] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, so in the LIVE session, you get a password request
[13:42] <wedgetail> just loading cf
[13:42] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:could be.
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, you mean on booting the USB?
[13:42] <wedgetail> yes
[13:43] <cfhowlett> wedgetail,  so you have NOT installed studio to your HDD, right?
[13:43] <adamk> hounndo_2: Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file ?
[13:43] <hounndo_2> 12.04.3 LTS
[13:43] <wedgetail> yes after booting right as the program is about to start at the desktop
[13:43] <goldstar> anyone?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, by any chance, are you using the windows installer/wubi?
[13:43] <wedgetail> no, not on hdd
[13:44] <wedgetail> no
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: can you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall fglrx         failing that you may need a later driver
[13:44] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, not normal behavior.
[13:45] <wedgetail> i know i installed yesterday and have used it a dozen times, but now it wants a password??
[13:45] <hounndo_2> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364717/
[13:45] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, I'm behind the great firewall, so my speeds are throttle.  search ubuntu + live + session + password      OR wipe the USB and create a new one
[13:45] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO:just a moment
[13:45] <adamk> hounndo_2: Did you modify that by hand?  It's a typical xorg.conf file generated by aticonfig, but with radeo ninstead of fglrx.
[13:46] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, wait, do you have persistence on the USB?  were you running update or something?
[13:46] <wedgetail> will do cf, thanks for your help and have a good day
[13:46] <hounndo_2> i did not modify anything there
[13:46] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, or if you shutdown improperly that would make it act funky
[13:46] <adamk> hounndo_2: Well someone/something did :-)
[13:46] <adamk> hounndo_2: Change that file so that it loads the fglrx driver instead of the radeon driver.
[13:46] <wedgetail> i do have persistance, but no updates yet
[13:47] <neurosnap> o7
[13:47] <User1985> Hello folks
[13:47] <wedgetail> did a proper shut down. always do as i am fussy about that
[13:47] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, yeah, you really have to be careful with not pulling the USB before it's COMPLETELY exited and shutdown.  otherwise strange things happen
[13:47] <User1985> I desperately need some help to mount a NTFS partition :s
[13:47] <hounndo_2> adamk just reinstalled fglrx also and rebooting
[13:47] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, so maybe actually install US to the HDD?
[13:47] <hounndo_2> and back to commandline
[13:47] <hounndo_2> ...
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: Just make sure that xorg.conf file says to use the fglrx driver and not the radeon driver.
[13:48] <cfhowlett> wedgetail, or if you want to only test further, install virtualbox on windows, and put US in the virtual machine
[13:48] <hounndo_2> adamk:did that
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: check the xorg.conf again
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: So pastebin your new /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:48] <adamk> hounndo_2: And xorg.conf file.
[13:48] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: it may be the case that you need a newer fglrx that whats in the repo
[13:48] <User1985> "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[13:48] <User1985> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[13:48] <User1985> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[13:48] <User1985> " This is the message I get and I do not know what to do :s
[13:48] <FloodBot1> User1985: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:48] <wedgetail> i need it it on usb for security reasons. I have it also on the hdd and windows alongside
[13:49] <adamk> hitsujiTMO: Let's wait till he's actually using the fglrx driver before we tell him he might need a newer one.
[13:49] <wedgetail> i will try the search as you suggested. thanks cf
[13:49] <cfhowlett> User1985, reboot windows and shut it down properly.  It's only in hibernate so ubuntu won't mess with it
[13:49] <hitsujiTMO> adamk: sorry your right
[13:50] <User1985> cfhowlett : here's the thing. I do not have windows installed and I cannot for some reason.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> User1985, (and I hate myself already for asking ...) what?  why?
[13:51] <hounndo_2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/
[13:51] <cfhowlett> User1985, but you DID have windows at some point, right?  format the HDD and reinstall.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> format to kill any last windows artifacts
[13:51] <User1985> Yesterday, I did a clean install of windows on a dell XPS 14 and this morning, it refused to boot.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> User1985, I'm betting UEFI issues.  the fact that you have NTFS means you had windows and STILL have the windows partition.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> !uefi
[13:52] <User1985> Dell told me this morning they will change the HDD because it might be dead but still, I see the partitions in Ubuntu live and I need to access them so that I can backup my date.
[13:52] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364741/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364764/
[13:53] <adamk> hounndo_2: Well at least you're attempting to use the fglrx driver now...  But it's encountering a serious crash.
[13:53] <hounndo_2> jup
[13:53] <User1985> Yes, I still have them, but some reason, it won't boot and whenever I try to reinstall Windows, the HDD doesn't show.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> User1985, so boot a live cd/usb in Read Only mode as was suggested by the error message.  copy your date to another usb.
[13:53] <User1985> It only show on a ubuntu live CD
[13:53] <User1985> I'm not sure how to do that.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> User1985, U - E - F - I issues.  windows 8, rigth?
[13:53] <cfhowlett> right?
[13:53] <adamk> hounndo_2: Can you run 'dmesg | pastebinit' ?
[13:54] <User1985> cfhowlett : I don't think so cause it used to work flawlessly. Plus, I am using legacy, not UEFI
[13:55] <cfhowlett> User1985, so, as the error message said, mount read only.  copy to another usb.  done.
[13:55] <hounndo_2> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6364769/
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !mount
[13:55] <hounndo_2> thx for your help btw, am loosing my mind over this
[13:55] <User1985> I don't know how to do that :s
[13:56] <cfhowlett> User1985, read the link.  gtg
[13:58] <adamk> hounndo_2: Unfortunately I'm not sure there's much guidance I can give here.  The kernel module is getting loaded, xorg is attempting to use the fglrx driver (along with the fglrx drm module and fglrx glx module).  That all looks like it should.  Then suddenly the driver crashes. By all accounts, it looks like a bug in the driver.
[13:58] <hounndo_2> well t only started failing after i started messing with it
[13:59] <User1985> cfhowlett: this is the error message (http://bayimg.com/IAcHOaaFA) and this is what I did (http://pastebin.com/Ns75i9L7)
[13:59] <User1985> There is my masters thesis on that drive :s
[13:59] <adamk> hounndo_2: So this worked out of the box initially?  You were probably using the radeon driver.
[14:00] <adamk> hounndo_2: You could remove fglrx entirely and try with radeon again. I do not know if 3D acceleration is available for that GPU with the radeon driver currently installed, but I *believe* it is in the latest version of Ubuntu.
[14:01] <hounndo_2> adamk:yes it was working out of the box, then i thought lets try steam and it told me to run fglrx updates and such... and now i am here
[14:01] <hounndo_2> latest would be 13.x right?
[14:01] <suigeneris> I am trying to install kvirc. it says no qt4 or qt5 found. I do have qt4 and its version is 4.8.4 but install quits saying minimum required is 4.6.0
[14:01] <User1985> Please help me :s
[14:01] <suigeneris> shouldn't build-dep retrieve qt as well?
[14:01] <adamk> hounndo_2: Latest is 13.10, though it might work in 13.04.  What version are you using?
[14:01] <hounndo_2> maybe try a dist upgrade then?
[14:01] <suigeneris> the first time I tried (cmake ..) it said -- Found Qt4: /usr/bin/qmake (found suitable version "4.8.4", minimum required is "4.6.0")  CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:403 (message):   No Qt4 or Qt5 found!. when I tried with -DWANT_QT4=1, it said   The use of Qt4 has been forced, but no Qt4 found on the system   (WANT_QT4=ON)
[14:02] <hounndo_2> adamk 12.04.3
[14:02] <suigeneris> can you help me guys?
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: you graphics card was only released about 2.5 months before 12.04 so compatible drivers may not have made it in to the repos on time
[14:03] <angs> in order to have pcap.h library, what package do I need to install? I tried libpcap-dev but it did not work
[14:03] <adamk> hounndo_2: Personally, I'd upgrade unless there's a specific reason you need to stick with 12.04.  In any case, the first thing I'd do is uninstall fglrx and switch back to the radeon driver.
[14:03] <hounndo_2> adamk am upgrading right now
[14:04] <hounndo_2> or not...
[14:04] <hounndo_2> ack i should have allocated more space for linux...
[14:04] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: is a clean install feasable?
[14:04] <User1985> Please Help me, I need to mount an "unsafe" NTSF partition without Windows :s
[14:05] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: if i want to loose all my work yes... so on that note propably no
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> hounndo_2: try remove fglrx and delete the xorg.conf to get back to the vesa driver
[14:08] <Guest28556> hi
[14:08] <krabador> Guest28556, you're not properly anonymous
[14:09] <neurosnap> lol
[14:09] <Xz> hi
[14:09] <mozybonz> heh
[14:11] <hounndo_2> hitsujiTMO: am just trying that now i have no disk space anymore... need to allocate some more first... il get back later maybee
[14:14] <kblin_web> hi folks
[14:15] <kblin_web> I'm trying to grab the davfs2 package from universe, but while it's listed on packages.ubuntu.com, I can't find it via apt-cache search
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: is the universe repo enabled?
[14:16] <deav> Has anyone had any experience with Lenovo keyboards not responding after the login screen in 13.10?
[14:16] <Fudus> try another update , one of your mirrors might be down
[14:17] <Fudus> it shows up for me in 13.10: Candidate: 1.4.6-1ubuntu3
[14:17] <rokka> hello. is it possible to edit which mounts can bee seen from landscape-sysinfo?
[14:18] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: there's a deb line for it in my sources.list
[14:18] <zloo> how can i see the contents of an apt package?
[14:19] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: im back, it worked! Thanks for everything man
[14:19] <Fudus> kblin_web, doing another update doesn't help?
[14:19] <Fudus> zloo, right click and open in archive manager
[14:19] <zloo> Fudus: i don't have a file, just the name for apt-get
[14:19] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Danato thanks for pointing that tool in my direction. I'll know that one for when others have similar problems in the future.
[14:20] <riccio> ciao
[14:20] <riccio> !list
[14:20] <Fudus> look it up in packages.ubuntu.com, then list of file contents
[14:20] <riccio> hallo
[14:20] <riccio> !lista
[14:20] <dcope> hey all, are monit questions allowed in here?
[14:20] <ObrienDave> !it
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: if the universe is not commented out then try switching to another set of repos
[14:22] <kblin_web> Fudus: I tried, doesn't seem like it.
[14:22] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: I'll give that a shot, maybe my mirror is bad
[14:22] <riccio> !list
[14:22] <riccio> !alis
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> is ubuntu italian for warez or something? because soo many italians come here and !list
[14:23] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: good to know it can be helpful to someone out there. Cheers
[14:24] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: ok, switching to another mirror seems to have fixed it
[14:25] <kblin_web> thanks for the tip :)
[14:25] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: could be
[14:26] <suigeneris> can you guys help me install kvirc?
[14:27] <kblin_web> hitsujiTMO: funny thing is that switching back to my old mirror also works... weird.
[14:27] <excognac> suigeneris: yes
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> kblin_web: hehe that's weird alright
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: sudo apt-get install kvirc
[14:28] <excognac> suigeneris: open Terminal sudo apt-get install kvirc
[14:29] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO, excognac: I'm trying to install from SVN, version in the repo is too old
[14:29] <StrangeNoises> when oh when oh when will the startup disk creator work properly?
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[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[14:30] <DrGrov> Hello. 13.10 running with Unity. I have the top bar everything as intended but not the power button so I can shutdown. How can I fix it back?
[14:30] <suigeneris> StrangeNoises: it has always worked properly for me
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: 13.10?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: there's a bug in the 13.10 SDC
[14:30] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: right now, 13.04
[14:30] <gustavnikolaj_> Hi. My toppanel in Unity has turned unresponsive. It shows the wrong alt-menus when I hover it, and I cant interact with it nor the icons near the clock. It's a fresh 13.10 running unity. the launcher is working. I couldnt find any mentions of similar issues on google. Anyone with any ideas?
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: try unetbootin instead
[14:30] <suigeneris> sdc?
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: startup disk creator
[14:31] <suigeneris> what's SDC?
[14:31] <StrangeNoises> when i say to erase disk, it asks for my password, i give it, and it fails horribly with a big ugly error message
[14:31] <StrangeNoises> have to reformat it elsewhere
[14:31] <DrGrov> I mean I do not see the power button as it was all the other times. Just now it disappared.
[14:31] <suigeneris> hitsujiTMO: oh, it is StrangeNoises who has problems
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> suigeneris: ahh must have mis tabbed woops sorry
[14:32] <suigeneris> np
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: try unetbootin instead
[14:32] <DrGrov> Should I do a sudo reboot or sudo halt in a terminal? Is that the only solution and see if it comes back afterwards?
[14:32] <suigeneris> !info kvirc
[14:32] <StrangeNoises> no no, i've seen this before. it works after that. i just have to use gparted or similar to format it as msdos, then erase disk in sdc works, then i can go ahead
[14:33] <StrangeNoises> that's how it was in 13.04 anyway, so far seems identical in 13.10
[14:33] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: rebooting works for me ... try ctrl+alt+del and logout and log back in
[14:33] <gustavnikolaj_> DrGrov: seems like the same issue that I have
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> It's not really an option to reboot in the middle of my working day and it is a major annoyance not being able to use the top bar at all...
[14:34]  * StrangeNoises received new ssd for the htpc today; getting ready for the reinstall, basically
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> reminds me, need to back up ~/.xbmc
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> My icons just do not disappear - they just do not work
[14:34] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah, there is the Ctrl+Alt+Del combination and it does not force restart the computer :)
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> in theory it should just be possible to dd the whole thing across to the new disk, but bleh
[14:34] <StrangeNoises> i'd rather reinstall
[14:34] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: nothing like a fresh install to clear the clutter :)
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: I did not try C+A+D just since I was afraid it would force restart like in good old days of DOS LOL
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> not even that much clutter on this one
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Testing now.
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> was freshly installed with raring not long before saucy came out
[14:35] <StrangeNoises> ah, sdc just crashed. lovely.
[14:35] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ah but it does not give me the option to restart. That is strange. Just log out.
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> segv
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: dbus communicating error?
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> that's ungood
[14:36] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: what filesystem are you creating?
[14:36] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: unfortunately I often see issues when dist-upgrading ubuntu. It's not debian after all :p
[14:36] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Can I do a reboot somehow except a terminal+sudo reboot?
[14:36] <StrangeNoises> gustavnikolaj_, actually tends to go well for me, although that's because i'm used to discounting a certain amount of post-upgrade fiddling
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: try logout and log back in and see if the power menu come back
[14:36] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, will do.
[14:37] <StrangeNoises> i'm not reinstalling this machine because it's got gnarly; just because i'm replacing an hdd with an ssd for its system drive
[14:37] <hillary_> kindly assist me with a command which will allow read write access  to all files and folders in /var directory
[14:37] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: I seem to recall trouble with 13.04 trying to use btrfs for /
[14:37] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: I make an effort to run as close to vanilla setup as possible, but still somehow manage to get in trouble. I have debian machines running without reinstalls for years - but I havent lasted more than a release for ubuntu yet :)
[14:38] <StrangeNoises> kblin_web, well, that's an exotic thing to be doing tbf
[14:38] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: why?
[14:38] <gustavnikolaj_> Anyway, did anyone of you have any other ideas about how to fix the unresponsive top panel in unity?
[14:38] <StrangeNoises> gustavnikolaj_, for that kind of thing i actually used to really like gentoo. no such thing as a distro version upgrade
[14:38] <gustavnikolaj_> StrangeNoises: yea - rolling releases kind of do solve that problem
[14:39] <StrangeNoises> kblin_web, isn't it still rather early days for btrfs?
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: thats far too dangerous. what exactly do you need it for?
[14:39] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: it's been in the mainline kernel since 2009, iirc
[14:40] <ObrienDave> i think i heard that btrfs was still experimental
[14:40] <StrangeNoises> right, here we go again, without extra space
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> i thought it was still experimental. (lots of things in mainline kernel are 'experimental' for ages. after all, wasn't it mooted to be the new default, preferred filesystem? but ext4 still is that,presumably for a reason?
[14:41] <hillary_> i have a folder in /var named elgg and i need to do modification in some files. am getting unable to save cos of writes. It is in local host
[14:41] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: arguably the kernel doesn't have a default filesystem
[14:41] <hillary_> am customizing a site
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> i know almost nothing about btrfs btw, no axe to grind here, was just my impression of something i wasn't paying close attention to
[14:41] <StrangeNoises> well no the *kernel* doesn't, but distro-makers make their choices...
[14:42] <StrangeNoises> also, available filesystems that grub can work with can be a factor
[14:42] <kblin_web> StrangeNoises: sure. I still think it's a bit rude to allow creating a btrfs / in the installer and then crash without a hint at a later step if you simply don't want to support btrfs /
[14:42] <StrangeNoises> hm. crashed again. this isn't good
[14:43] <hillary_> if i can allow read write to all the folders  and files in the directory, it will make my work easy
[14:43] <StrangeNoises> i think i may have to make this disk in  a mac at this rate
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: what tool are you using to edit the files?
[14:43] <gustavnikolaj_> DrGrov: I found a way to solve your issue without rebooting: killall unity-panel-service
[14:43] <hillary_> reg edit
[14:43] <gustavnikolaj_> it will force it to restart
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: is it /var/www you need access to?
[14:44] <hillary_> exactly
[14:44] <hillary_> /var/www/elgg
[14:44] <StrangeNoises> heh, my cat has found a spot *behind* my monitors, where she can peek over at me.
[14:45] <maxiaojun> does anyone experience /etc/X11/X missing?
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: use gksudo gedit /var/www/elgg/path/to/filename
[14:47] <maxiaojun> this happened when i did some "cleaning" in ubuntu tweak, my os is 12.04 running unity 2d
[14:47] <maxiaojun> i fixed this issue myself, but after an unsuccessful logout (freeze) the issue happens again
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: normally you should have set /var/www to be owned by a www group and added yourself to that group followed by setting permissions g+ws on /var/www.   all that BEFORE ever adding any site code. doing so now will unfortunately break the exising sites.
[14:48] <maxiaojun> this issue is rather annoying as the observed phenomenon is that the computer boots, then black screen without any error message
[14:49] <wl-deav> hillary_ ideally you should use virtualhosts
[14:49] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X                bizare how that could have happened
[14:49] <hillary_> <hitsujiTMO: i would mind how do i set it
[14:50] <maxiaojun> yes, i know this fix, but i wanna know what triggered the missing?
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> hillary_: its too late now. as i said doing so will break exising sites. you need to do that before adding sites.
[14:51] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: can't think of anything that would cause it to be honest.
[14:52] <uczen16> kjh
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: whats the exact tool you used? cannot find ubuntu tweak
[14:53] <uczen16> k
[14:53] <maxiaojun> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:53] <StrangeNoises> aptitude search tweak
[14:53] <StrangeNoises> it's right there
[14:53] <uczen16> u can suck my balls xd
[14:54] <bekks> !language | uczen16
[14:54] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[14:54] <uczen16> how about no /xd'
[14:54] <uczen16> u asshole
[14:54] <ObrienDave> oh lordy, and so it begins
[14:54] <uczen16> XDXD
[14:54] <DJones> uczen16: Please stop that
[14:54] <nishttal2> hello ppl.. sudo apt-get update is not finding some IP.. here is the output.. http://fpaste.org/51749/83663279/ how can i fix this?
[14:54] <bekks> uczen16: How about leaving this channel and trolling elsewhere?
[14:55] <uczen16> hmm
[14:55] <uczen16> no?
[14:55] <Dai_1987> way to feed the troll guys, lol
[14:55] <IdleOne> !guidelines > uczen16
[14:56] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 because that site does NOT support natty anymore?
[14:56] <bekks> !eolupgrades | nishttal2
[14:57] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, hmm.. so I have to rebuild a otherwise fully functional production server?
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> in short, if you're not the sort to jump on a new release every six months, you're probably better of sticking to the LTS versions :-)
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> off
[14:57] <nishttal2> StrangeNoises, and Natty isnt a LTS release?
[14:57] <hitsujiTMO> maxiaojun: you sould report a bug on it at the least. i'd be careful of using any such software that's not in the main repos
[14:57] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 what version is the server running?
[14:57] <StrangeNoises> nishttal2, no, it isn't
[14:58] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, StrangeNoises Linux bart 2.6.38-8-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:49:04 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:58] <StrangeNoises> whereas i have some servers deployed with Lucid, which is, and is still supported
[14:58] <ObrienDave> bart? oh my
[14:58] <bekks> nishttal2: lsb_release -sd
[14:59] <maxiaojun> hitsujiTMO: i know how to report bugs and reported many, but i'd try to find out the root cause first
[14:59] <nishttal2> bekks, Ubuntu 11.04
[14:59] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, rt :)
[14:59] <bekks> nishttal2: Thats not supported anymore. Upgrade to 12.04 at least.
[14:59] <StrangeNoises> and 12.04 *is* an LTS release, so is supported for years
[15:00] <nishttal2> bekks, damn.. i hate changing OS when its not really broken
[15:00] <StrangeNoises> so suits those that don't like upgrading often :-)
[15:00] <ObrienDave> 5 years
[15:00] <StrangeNoises> some of us are a bit crazy and do actually enjoy it ;-)
[15:00] <ObrienDave> like me YEEHAAA
[15:00] <bekks> nishttal2: It isnt supported anymore. No updated, no security fixes, nothing. Use LTS 12.04 to get 5 years supports.
[15:00] <bekks> -s
[15:00] <nishttal2> bekks, StrangeNoises is there no way to just install gdb somehow (which is what I need)
[15:00]  * StrangeNoises has been using saucy for probably around four months or so after all.... ;-)
[15:00] <Aut0Exec> hi
[15:00] <bekks> nishttal2: No.
[15:01] <Aut0Exec> will ubuntu sausy run nice on a netbook?
[15:01] <bekks> nishttal2: 11.04 is not supported anymore. EOD.
[15:01] <nishttal2> StrangeNoises, ObrienDave oh my workstation is always bleeding edge (13.10 rt now).. but production servers i dont touch
[15:01] <Aut0Exec> answer this quick
[15:01] <StrangeNoises> nishttal2, same here, well, i plan for *eventual* upgrades, but i only install the LTS on those
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> Aut0Exec: probably not . depends on the cpu and gpu
[15:01] <StrangeNoises> hence my own dedicated hosted server is on 12.04, and those i support for a client are 10.04
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | Aut0Exec
[15:02] <Aut0Exec> MonkeyDust: thank you brother
[15:02] <ObrienDave> YAY Xubuntu
[15:03] <ObrienDave> sorry, I'm kinda partial as you probably guessed ;)
[15:04] <suigeneris> !info kvirc raring
[15:05] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 well, go to 12.04 for now, in April, go to 14.04 and you won't have to touch it for 5 years :)
[15:06] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, rt.. but rt now.. i need to install gdb.. maybe I can download the .deb file for that somewhere
[15:06] <Aut0Exec> so if the machine meets 2 times teh minimum requirements... it should run pretty smooth or what?
[15:06] <bekks> nishttal2: On servers, you should always use the LTS.
[15:06] <Aut0Exec> answer this quick
[15:06] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, i would expect a netbook to run standard ubuntu ok tbh
[15:06] <nishttal2> bekks, yeah will keep in mind
[15:07] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: I have another laptop ... its like a pentium 4 2.x mhz.. 2 gigs of memory
[15:07] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/i386/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu2
[15:07] <philinux> Aut0Exec: running well on an ac er 1410 right now
[15:07] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, limiting factor's probably graphics
[15:07] <nightdrever> any software i can use to mount iso file? im on ubuntu 12.04
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> philinux, StrangeNoises ok thanks.. i guess only one way to find out huh?
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> just install the damn thing i guess
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> see what happens
[15:08] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, you can probably still *install* standard ubuntu, and if it's too sluggish on the desktop you can just install eg: lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop and use that from then on
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> nightdrever: mount -o loop
[15:08] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, oh perfect... thanks much appreciated
[15:08] <philinux> Aut0Exec: 1.3 gig celeron and intel integrated gm45
[15:08] <ObrienDave> no prob
[15:08] <Aut0Exec> philinux: is it smooth?
[15:08] <philinux> Aut0Exec: and 2 gig ram
[15:09] <Aut0Exec> philinux: is that 13.10? and is it smooth?
[15:09] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, its i386.. where can i find the 64-bit version
[15:09] <philinux> Aut0Exec: runs very well with default ubuntu install i.e unity
[15:09] <ObrienDave> picky, PICKY ;)
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  use a live dvd / usb to try it out, is my advice
[15:09] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> installation prompts you for what type of install you want?
[15:10] <philinux> Aut0Exec: if it didn't run well i'd use something else
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> standard, unity, ... etc?
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, standard installer will just install unity
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> it will work, you then decide if it's smooth and responsive enough for you
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> and if it is, you're done
[15:10] <ObrienDave> nishttal2 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdb/7.2-1ubuntu4
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> gatcha
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> otherwise, you can just install one of the other desktop environments directly
[15:10] <Aut0Exec> i will attempt the install
[15:10] <StrangeNoises> no need to reinstall
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  firdt try it, before you install
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: this can all be done from the same install media correct?
[15:11] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I can play hd videos etc
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> MonkeyDust: ok
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> Aut0Exec, no, the install media will install unity
[15:11] <_JuJuBee> I cannot seem to get my motorola maxx to show on ubuntu as a USB device.  Syslog shows this when I connect phone... http://pastebin.com/EAjQkmqS
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> but once installed the install media is irrelevant
[15:11] <StrangeNoises> it installs from net
[15:11] <nishttal2> ObrienDave, thanks again
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> ahh ok
[15:11] <ObrienDave> yup
[15:11] <Aut0Exec> i totally understand now
[15:12] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I only run browser and a bit of office stuff and xchat ,evolution etc
[15:12] <StrangeNoises> for P4 and netbook you want the 32-bit installer btw
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> philinux: and you find it very nice and smooth? then i shall use it as well
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> :)
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: indeed
[15:12] <StrangeNoises> mentioning as it's no longer the default when you get to the download page
[15:12] <Aut0Exec> StrangeNoises: that goes without saying my friend
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> so you need to remember to select it
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> yessir
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> they assume you have the latest and greatest hardware
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> noobs
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> in fairness, more people do now i reckon
[15:13] <StrangeNoises> even recent atoms are 64-bit
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> if ubuntu fails ... i'll probably go with a lighter distro
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> perhaps debian
[15:13] <Aut0Exec> or arch
[15:14] <ripthejacker> xubuntu?
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> you think thats light?
[15:14] <ObrienDave> YAY Xubuntu
[15:14] <StrangeNoises> xubuntu is way lighter than unity, but unity is nicer if the system can cope with it :-)
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> oh snap
[15:14] <StrangeNoises> so worth the effort
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> yessir
[15:14] <Aut0Exec> totally
[15:15] <Aut0Exec> +1 ubuntu fanbois
[15:15] <ObrienDave> Unity PFFFFFT
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> Aut0Exec  and KDE is faster, more responsive than Unity, in my experience, that is
[15:15] <StrangeNoises> my other computer is a mac, so unity is less of a wrench
[15:16] <StrangeNoises> dock may be in the wrong place but at least the menus arent ;-D
[15:16] <philinux> Aut0Exec: I'm running the 64 bit version by the way
[15:17] <dreamy_> whats the command on the command line to know what processes are running?
[15:18]  * StrangeNoises steps across to the mac to make an ubuntu usb bootable :-P
[15:18] <genii> dreamy_: ps
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> dreamy_: ps
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> with various options
[15:18] <FloodBot1> StrangeNoises: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> eg:
[15:18] <savio> use ps / top
[15:18] <dreamy_> ty all
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> ps aux
[15:18] <StrangeNoises> i'm not bloody pasting, FloodBot1 i just type fast :-P
[15:18] <philinux> Aut0Exec: see this http://imagebin.org/275857
[15:19] <ObrienDave> floodbot is SLOW! ;)
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> slowbot
[15:20] <Aut0Exec> thank you guys
[15:20] <dreamy_> if i had a ftp server whould it show with "ps"
[15:20] <dreamy_> ?
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> probably not *just* ps as that'll just show your processes
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> hence ps aux, which shows all
[15:20] <StrangeNoises> also if you have a desktop, system monitor
[15:21] <StrangeNoises> top for an ongoing display of the top running processes, but an ftpd probably won't often show up there unless it's being DOSed
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: i se
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: this is sweet breh
[15:21] <Aut0Exec> philinux: ok check this out.... I have a 32 bit machine tho...
[15:22] <StrangeNoises> should be fine
[15:22] <StrangeNoises> just get on with it ;-P
[15:22] <dreamy_> ok, know what if i want to list the "services"?
[15:22] <Aut0Exec> ok
[15:23] <gimmic> anyone noticed issues with gimp and unity?
[15:23] <gimmic> I am having problems getting the menus to show up
[15:23] <StrangeNoises> dreamy_: there's nothing special about service vs. foreground apps in linux. but you could ls /etc/init.d to remind yourself what there are launch scripts for
[15:23]  * StrangeNoises tends to do that
[15:24] <StrangeNoises> though wouldn't be surprised if there's a nice way to query upstart for that kind of information that i never caught up with
[15:24]  * StrangeNoises is old, /me remembers sysvinit
[15:24] <x0011BF> Hey, I have a quick question about scripts that need to run as root.
[15:24] <gimmic> that isn't that old StrangeNoises :(
[15:24] <treatmaster> someone master in eclipse in ubuntu
[15:24] <treatmaster> ???
[15:25] <x0011BF> I've got a script I need to run as root that I want to trigger on the creation of an interface (broadcasts a wifi signal using the tun0 interface)
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> !ask | treatmaster
[15:25] <x0011BF> Is there a way to give the script permissions to run as root without me having to do it myself, or is there alternatively a way to get a graphical pop-up asking for root password?
[15:25] <treatmaster> i got an issue
[15:25] <treatmaster> i open eclipse
[15:26] <treatmaster> and i cant interact with navigation menu
[15:26] <olf-folks> dose anyone know why terminator won read its config file?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> treatmaster  try to keep the question in one line, it's easier to read and repeat
[15:27] <treatmaster> sorry monkeydust.this is the first time i join xchat
[15:29] <treatmaster> someoneelse can answer my question.
[15:29] <ObrienDave> !patience
[15:29] <treatmaster> thank ObrienDave
[15:30] <gimmic> x0011BF: it doesn't prompt for sudo auth when it runs?
[15:31] <x0011BF> gimmic: I usually run it as like sudo ./runWifi
[15:31] <x0011BF> I'm not sure how to get it to prompt for sudo in the bash script itself.
[15:31] <gimmic> is it only for you?
[15:31] <gimmic> or is this for someone else.. can it be a hack
[15:31] <bekks> x0011BF: sudo cmd ...
[15:31] <darth_damian_000> Hello. I wanted to ask what is the best way to upgrade to 13.10? I did research and no method sounds convincing. In-system upgrade risks files being deleted, upgrading with a live USB is not a recommended method (as it will delete files), a clean install will definitely remove my files. Is there a way I can do this with keeping everything?
[15:31] <gimmic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/303795/run-typical-sudo-commands-from-button-on-unity
[15:32] <x0011BF> Just for me.
[15:32] <gimmic> x0011BF: gksudo might be what you're looking for?
[15:32] <xangua> darth_damian_000: updates have never deleter my files
[15:33] <x0011BF> OK, I'll try it out. I remember doing this a while back and finding that I generally needed to be running from a terminal.
[15:33] <xangua> deleted*
[15:33] <x0011BF> That gksudo thing is probably right.
[15:33] <x0011BF> Is there a way to just give a script sudo permissions though?
[15:33] <gimmic> gksu: Description-en: graphical frontend to su
[15:33] <gimmic> (also does sudo)
[15:33] <x0011BF> If it's owned by root you'd need sudo permissions to run it.
[15:33] <x0011BF> Er.
[15:33] <x0011BF> To edit it.
[15:33] <gimmic> edit what
[15:34] <x0011BF> Like if I could set a flag on it so that it doesn't need the sudo password to run as root.
[15:34] <bekks> x0011BF: setuid
[15:34] <x0011BF> It's not like an attacker could edit it without the sudo password anyway.
[15:34] <huttan> x0011BF: yeah, u can in the sudoers file.
[15:35] <gimmic> you can save the password into a launcher, which is why I was asking aobut other users
[15:35] <x0011BF> ah.
[15:35] <gimmic> or you can give passwordless sudo for that script in visudo
[15:35] <x0011BF> Yeah I worry about saving the password somewhere.
[15:35] <gimmic> for your user
[15:35] <gimmic> then use visdo
[15:35] <gimmic> *visudo
[15:35] <roflin> mmm I've got an issue with my sound after resume. I probably need to unload the right modules on suspend, but I don't know which one.
[15:35] <x0011BF> All of those things compromise security though.
[15:35] <ObrienDave> darth_damian_000 In-system is safest
[15:35] <gimmic> set it so you can passwordlessly allow execution of that script, problem is that script can be anything
[15:35] <roflin> the issue is that it doesn't work after a resume btw.
[15:36] <huttan> x0011BF: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130128020411AAZpsgc - i suggest you read the answer from, Chris D
[15:36] <gimmic> well, what you're asking is for a way to execute a bash script as root without a password. ALL solutions will compromise security.
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> roflin: if you run:   killall pulseaudio    after you resume, is it ok?
[15:36] <x0011BF> What the hell huttan? A thoughtful response on Yahoo! Answers?
[15:36] <x0011BF> I should write another answer telling the person that if they use sudo wrong they'll get pregnant just to balance it out.
[15:36] <x0011BF> :P
[15:37] <huttan> x0011BF: it happens =)
[15:37] <roflin> I tried with pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload, but that didn't bring it back.
[15:37] <x0011BF> gimmic: To some extent yeah, but if I write the script myself and it is owned by root it doesn't really compromise much.
[15:37] <x0011BF> Because you'd need the sudo password to edit it.
[15:37] <gimmic> ya
[15:37] <gimmic> that's probably the best way- lock it down and set it for passwordless execution via visudo
[15:38] <x0011BF> OK, I'll read up on setuid, gksudo, visudo and that bizarro Yahoo! Answers thread.
[15:38] <geirha> x0011BF: The ownership and permissions on the directory the script is in also matters
[15:38] <x0011BF> Thanks for the advice gimmic , huttan  and bekks.
[15:38] <gimmic> you don't need any of that first stuff- just do visdo and proper permissions
[15:38] <x0011BF> I'll just read it anyway :P
[15:38] <gimmic> the gksudo is only for the graphical password prompt, which you can bypass.
[15:38] <skulltip> when i upgrade by doing a format/install, i have a separate home partition. how do i keep it from messing up the installed GUI settings when I point the fstab to the new home folder? Won't the settings in new gnome/unity/whatever potentionally be impacted by the old settings in my home folder?
[15:38] <bekks> x0011BF: which gimmic?
[15:38] <geirha> any user with write access to the directory can replace the script with their own
[15:38] <holms> anybody tried to push alt+princscreen+c ?
[15:39] <bekks> holms: why?
[15:39] <holms> bekks: new bug
[15:39] <holms> :D
[15:39] <bekks> holms: full sentence? :P
[15:40] <holms> bekks: you will get kernel panic
[15:40] <holms> that why i hate this distro
[15:40] <holms> those idiots left sysq on by default
[15:40] <holms> even if screen locked thiw will work
[15:41] <abradley> I have mounted a password protected cifs share by adding to fstab. I can open files successfully but I cannot write to them
[15:41] <abradley> and the creds used were for read/write
[15:41] <abradley> cifs share is from small business server 2011
[15:41] <ActionPa1snip> holms: have you reported a bug?
[15:41] <holms> ActionPa1snip: i's reported already
[15:41] <bekks> holms: I didnt understand a single sentence of what you ranted, sorry.
[15:41] <_joey> After upgrading to 13.10 all network connections are lost (eth0, wifi, wlan)
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> abradley  what's the line in fstab?
[15:41] <holms> nobody cares
[15:41] <_joey> what's going on?
[15:41] <bekks> !details | holms
[15:42] <holms> ubottu: lol i just came to say that there's kernel panic when you press alt+printscreen+c  :)
[15:42] <ActionPa1snip> holms: good
[15:42] <holms> rest i don't care
[15:42] <holms> :)
[15:42] <holms> nice bot, turren test passed
[15:42] <Pici> holms: This is a support channel. Its not a place to leave complaints.
[15:42] <abradley> MonkeyDust, //SBS2011.rxbenefits.local/proxmox /home/crash/mounts/sbs2011-proxmox cifs username=windows-username,password=password,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm   0   0
[15:42] <holms> it's just.. shows how secury this distro is on servers
[15:43] <abradley> MonkeyDust, //SBS2011.rxbenefits.local/proxmox /home/crash/mounts/sbs2011-proxmox cifs username=<windows-username>,password=<password>,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm   0   0
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> abradley  try 'defaults' instead of 'username=...' and 0 2 instead of 0 0
[15:43] <Flannel>  /lastlog jono
[15:44] <_joey> After upgrading to 13.10 all network connections are lost (eth0, wifi, wlan)
[15:44] <_joey> could someone help please?
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> holms: sysreq is there for a reason sysreq + c performs a crash dump http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[15:45] <gso> What would cause /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/build/include/linux/version.h to not contain KERNEL_VERSION definitions ?
[15:45] <perish> is there a task manager for ubuntu 12.04lts?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> perish  system monitor
[15:46] <abradley> MonkeyDust, I still get "Error creating directory: Permission denied"
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> gso: the module you are trying to build is for an older kernel
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> abradley  have you rebooted or re-mounted ?
[15:46] <abradley> mount -a, yes
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> ok
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> gso: is it for vmware stuff by anychance?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> abradley  still, try rebooting
[15:47] <abradley> deal
[15:49] <gso> hitsujiTMO: No, it's for some autoprotect modules for symantec
[15:50] <perish> is there a ati driver for old graphics card on ubuntu 12.04lts(Kernel Linux 3.8.0-32-generic)
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> gso: ahh, not familiar with that. It's unfortunately targeting the 2.6 kernel
[15:51] <gso> yeah, was wondering if I could point it to the generated/uapi.... But, does not smell like the right solution
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> perish: legacy card requires 2.6 kernel? might work under 3.2
[15:53] <babinlonston> hi All , Will this command backup my  logcol00 to snap-shot ?   - ----------  >      dd if=/dev/vg_rhel/LogVol00 of=/dev/mapper/snap-shot
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> gso: i use sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r)/include/linux/version.h         to get the setup script to run on vmware tools (same issue) still doesn't build but gets it to at least detect the headers and run the setup script
[15:53] <bekks> babinlonston: No. It will create an inconsistent whatever. When using LVM, create a snapshot, and backup the snapshot.
[15:54] <nightdrever> is there away to stop programs in wine accessing internet?
[15:54] <perish> is it possible to downgrade kernel without changing the os..??
[15:54] <babinlonston> bekks: how to do it
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> perish: you could try building the kernel yourself
[15:55] <moppy> nightdrever, i dont know if wine has a setting but SELINUX will allow you to create an application level firewall. standard ip tables can only block by things like port which might not help
[15:55] <testpil0t> nightdrever, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19346/how-to-block-internet-access-for-wine-applications
[15:57] <gso> hitsujiTMO: The odd part is, the linux/version.h files DOES exist... But, it does not contain the kernel version...
[15:57] <moppy> testpil0t, nightdrever: interesing didnt know iptables could block by user id - wouldnt work on native apps as i need to be me, but i can see it working for wine
[15:58] <babinlonston>  im using kvm and other Distribution were installed as Guest operating systems  there are  /dev/sda6 , /dev/sda7 /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 ,  there are upto /dev/sda15 available in my PC , i need to create a backup of /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda14 , if there is some issue i need to restore from that /dev/sda14 to /dev/sda6 , how can i Do it guide me to snapshot it ... I'm using LVM for /
[15:58] <gso> hitsujiTMO: Ohh well nevermind.. I've manually fixed those parts now, but the filesystem API has too many changes... I'll not waste my time porting this.. it's too damn much work.
[15:59] <GimmiLFactorY> Hello governors, anyone point me to some PID control or # obtaining documentation?
[15:59] <perish> is it possible to downgrade kernel without changing the os..?? mean without downgrading the os??anyone here??
[16:00] <GimmiLFactorY> Perish are you talking about the headers?
[16:00] <perish> man i dont know what im talking about
[16:00] <perish> im new with ubuntu
[16:01] <GimmiLFactorY> I've been with it for just under a year
[16:01] <GimmiLFactorY> Perish, open terminal and type uname -r
[16:01] <perish> i just need a driver for my ati driver which is not available for my current kernel version 3.8
[16:01] <GimmiLFactorY> is that the kernal versioning you are trying to downgrade from?
[16:02] <usersdsdsd> hello to all
[16:02] <perish> yeah..
[16:03] <GimmiLFactorY> perish - private msg
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> gso: hmm, odd, that file doesn't exist on any of my systems. I'm wondering have you run into this problem before with another app
[16:04] <babinlonston> im using kvm and other Distribution were installed as Guest operating systems  there are  /dev/sda6 , /dev/sda7 /dev/sda8 /dev/sda9 ,  there are upto /dev/sda15 available in my PC , i need to create a backup of /dev/sda6 to /dev/sda14 , if there is some issue i need to restore from that /dev/sda14 to /dev/sda6 , how can i Do it guide me to snapshot it ... I'm using LVM for /
[16:04] <irgautvol> Hi - How do I get rid of Session=gnome-fallback in .dmrc in personel folder - without being overwritten again
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: why do you want to change remove that?
[16:09] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO When I login to gui I got logged out after upgrade to 13.10
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: try changing it to Ubuntu
[16:10] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: sorry: ubuntu      small u
[16:10] <techlord> Hello all I have issue that the image thumbnails are showing as clocks for the icons anyone have a idea how to fix this?
[16:10] <irgautvol> hitsujiMTO yes, but it gets over written.
[16:11] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO gui is just balck with mouse pointer
[16:11] <perish> GimmiLFactorY you there?
[16:11] <Aut0Exec> I hate how the download sections asks for donation
[16:11] <perish> i need to downgrade my kernel
[16:11] <Aut0Exec> yet its free
[16:11] <Aut0Exec> i'm not donating anything
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: is your system capable of running unity3d?
[16:11] <GimmiLFactorY> yeah, I private messaged you, need resend?
[16:11] <Aut0Exec> because i like free
[16:11] <perish> anyone help me with that\
[16:12] <Aut0Exec> perish: did you donate?
[16:12] <perish> donate for what?
[16:12] <Aut0Exec> ubuntu
[16:12] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO Other users have no problem , unity3d - I think so
[16:12] <cordyceps> Running Ubuntu 13.04 FWIW, was having trouble with mplayer installed using apt-get, "mis-matching header". Searched and learned mplayer prefers to be installed via svn. So I purged ubu-mplayer and used svn. So far so good. But now must enter /usr/local/bin/mplayer explicitly at the CLI. Or I get "command not found"  My other "local" stuff doesn't need the whole path spelled out. Why? Yes, I "own" /usr/local/bin.
[16:12] <Aut0Exec> when you downloaded it
[16:12] <perish> no..i didnt
[16:12] <Aut0Exec> perish: then no support for you sir
[16:12] <perish> no
[16:12] <cordyceps> Running Ubuntu 13.04 FWIW, was having trouble with mplayer installed using apt-get, "mis-matching header". Searched and learned mplayer prefers to be installed via svn. So I purged ubu-mplayer and used svn. So far so good. But now must enter /usr/local/bin/mplayer explicitly at the CLI. Or I get "command not found"  My other "local" stuff doesn't need the whole path spelled out. Why? Yes, I "own" /usr/local/bin.
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: what gpu do you have?
[16:12] <cordyceps> oops!
[16:12] <GimmiLFactorY> perish - private message
[16:13] <skinnkavaj> Hello how do I install ubuntu from USB? I have downloaded an iso file, should I just move it to a usb and then boot from usb? Is that the only thing?
[16:13] <GimmiLFactorY> Aut0Exec, this program is GNU, donating is not required for you to have free information given to you that is already available to others.
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: looks like you were forced to unity2d before the upgrade, which is usually because your gpu cannot handle unity3d. which would explain the black screen you are getting now.
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> skinnkavaj: install and use unetbootin
[16:14] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO how do I check again? lshw |grep ??? -
[16:14] <zykotick9> cordyceps: your user shouldn't own /usr/local/bin that's for sure. (not related to your issue at hand)
[16:14] <perish> GimmiLFactorY check your private
[16:14] <sirronb> Need some help with Grub booting. Tried Boot-Repair and it did not make any changes. Can't see my Windoze installation. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365288/
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: lspci | grep VGA
[16:14] <cordyceps> zykotick9: yeah, I did that just in case.
[16:14] <Aut0Exec> GimmiLFactorY: yeah i just hate begging
[16:15] <cordyceps> skinnkavaj: unetbootin
[16:15] <marcomex> ciao
[16:15] <StrangeNoises> oh that's unpleasant. saucy installer's gone into a sulk because i tried saying 'log in later' at the ubuntu one screen
[16:15] <StrangeNoises> that is not cool
[16:16] <skinnkavaj> cordyceps: unetbootin?
[16:16] <cordyceps> look it up
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> !info unetbootin
[16:17] <zykotick9> unetbootin is weak.  the ubuntu isos are hybrid, you can use cat/cp/dd to move them to the root of your USB drive and they should boot.  cordyceps skinnkavaj
[16:17] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO grep -A 3 -B 3 - gives product RV370 [Radeon X300/X550/X1050 Series] but other users can get to gui - just with lots of flickering but maybe this can be set off?
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> StrangeNoises: normall it locks there if you try to login or create an account. you'd be the first to have it lock there when trying to skip it
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> skinnkavaj: unetbootin also runs on mac and windows
[16:19] <skinnkavaj> weak?
[16:19] <StrangeNoises> weird thing too, when i *tried* to type in the email field, the characters appeared to the right of the cursor
[16:19] <skinnkavaj> zykotick9: what do you mean with weak?
[16:19] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: it's unetbootin on windows, i fear the most... ;)
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: works fine here
[16:19] <skinnkavaj> zykotick9: can you get virus or what?
[16:19] <davidw> I fished a few packages out of debian unstable - now it's time to downgrade - what's the most efficient way of doing so?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> hilite virus
[16:19] <zykotick9> skinnkavaj: create the usb, then reboot to the ISO not being able to find the cdrom... is the most common.
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: you probably need to be running a different driver to get it working. what driver are you on now?
[16:20] <zykotick9> skinnkavaj: s/the ISO/the installer/
[16:20] <zykotick9> !virus > skinnkavaj
[16:21] <skinnkavaj> zykotick9: so what is a better way to do it?
[16:22] <skinnkavaj> im installing ubuntu first time on an old computer
[16:22] <zykotick9> skinnkavaj: are you on windows or gnu/linux to create the usb?
[16:22] <skinnkavaj> windows
[16:22] <techlord> Hello all I have issue that the image thumbnails are showing as clocks for the icons anyone have a idea how to fix this?
[16:22] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO driver=pcieport Do you know command for setting Session=ubuntu for unity?
[16:22] <zykotick9> skinnkavaj: are you sure that "old computer" supports booting usb?  if you are on windows, use unetbootin...
[16:22] <skinnkavaj> alright
[16:22] <skinnkavaj> i will use unebootin even though it is "weak
[16:23] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: it should automatically be trying to run standard unity. its probably failing hence the black screen
[16:24] <StrangeNoises> at this rate i might dig out the 13.04 installer, because that worked completely smoothly. they do seem to have broken stuff
[16:24] <StrangeNoises> hangs for ages at various points of the install
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: try this: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf                   change it there to: user-session=ubuntu
[16:25] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO if I stop lightdm as root and start again I can select another user or a new user and can get to normal gui. How can I also switch to gnome for myself?
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: or try: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s ubuntu
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: that should set the default for a;;
[16:28] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO no.1 was already set. no. 2: responds with Cannot open for reading: "ubuntu"
[16:29] <StrangeNoises> ok, let me past the second time
[16:29] <sirronb> Looking for help with the grub2 bootloader. I do not have the option to boot Windoze7. Can someone please help. I'm a nuby novice and dont know what to do. :(
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: so if you create a new user, that user can get to unity?
[16:29] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO sorry I did a vim before
[16:30] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO yes. something specific to my user - me
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: you must have some other incompatible configuration causing the problem so
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> do you have a .xsession file?
[16:32] <Aut0Exec> sirronb: did you pay a donation when you downloated?
[16:32] <StrangeNoises> hehe
[16:32] <StrangeNoises> aaah, that's what the problem is
[16:32] <Aut0Exec> o__0
[16:32] <Pici> Aut0Exec: knock it off.
[16:32] <ikonia> Aut0Exec: can you please stop asking that, it's none of your business
[16:32] <Aut0Exec> ok
[16:32] <StrangeNoises> i didn't either
[16:32] <Aut0Exec> np
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: also can you pastebin .xsession-errors
[16:33] <sirronb> Aut0Exec: No sir
[16:33] <Aut0Exec> sirronb: thats unfortunate :)
[16:33] <deper29> sirronb: do you have os-prober
[16:33] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO .xsession-errors show crash stuff. Now I got to the background screen in gui after restarting lightdm - still without any controls
[16:34] <sirronb> Aut0Exec: No sir - never heard of. I was told this morning to use "boot-repair-disk". It did nothing. I can send you the paste.ubuntu
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: can you still post .xsession-errors    might give a clue as to whats preventing unity from loading
[16:34] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO .dmrc is still Session=gnome-fallback
[16:35] <deper29> sirronb: I would try os-prober. That's what I use. I think it's just 'sudo os-prober'
[16:36] <sirronb> deper29:  No sir - never heard of. I was told this morning to use "boot-repair-disk". It did nothing. I can send you the paste.ubuntu
[16:36] <Lars_G> Ok, sorry but what IS the right toold to change what's run on each runlevel with upstart?
[16:36] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO I have to retype here.. at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawing (multple) then update-notifier-crash (.... terminated with status 127) (multiple)
[16:36] <sirronb> deper29: tried that - no repsonse
[16:37] <deper29> sirronb: hold on a second, let me dig out the docs
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> Lars_G: vim, nano, gedit... what ever you prefer. just remember that there is only 1 runlevel that you're running in
[16:37] <sirronb> deper29: Okay
[16:37] <Lars_G> hitsujiTMO: You mean edit the runlevel on the init file itself? ugh. So there's no tool to disable an init in a runlevel?
[16:37] <StrangeNoises> do runlevels even exist any more? thought just services had dependencies and it sorted itself out
[16:37] <deper29> sirronb: try mounting the drive with Windows on it
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> deper29: partition ;)
[16:38] <Lars_G> !Upstart
[16:38] <Lars_G> lets see I saw those docs and I saw no reference on disabling stuff but I'll see again
[16:38] <deper29> ActionParsnip: oh, I did not know it was a partition. derp.
[16:38] <deper29> sirronb: s/drive/partition/
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors
[16:39] <deper29> ActionParsnip: ugh, you know what I meant.
[16:40] <jubale> I created a symlink between /usr/bin/something and /opt/something/something, but using symlink returned command not found.
[16:40]  * deper29 gets coffee
[16:40] <sirronb> deper29: The drive is mounted and I can see the directories and files. GParted show all the drives and the structure looks okay.
[16:40] <ikonia> jubale: what was the command you linked
[16:40] <Lars_G> jubale: the command is "ln -s" for a symbolic link
[16:40] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO : /var/crash/_usr_lib_i386-linux-gnu_indicator-sound..     ok give me some time
[16:40] <Lars_G> Oh I get it now.
[16:40] <deper29> sirronb: you just mounted now?
[16:40] <deper29> or was it mounted when you ran os-prober?
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> lars_g: you edit the config files in /etc/init but everything is effective running in runlevel 2. you have more control with upstart where you can start and stop services based on other services being active, or a network interface going up. have a look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[16:41] <Lars_G> jubale: Make sure a) /opt/something/something is +x  b) /usr/bin is in PATH and c) You symlinked in the right direction
[16:41] <jubale> I did 'sudo ln -s ./manager-linux-x64.run /usr/bin/lampp-manager ', but calling lampp-manager returned command not found.
[16:41] <sirronb> deper29: It is always there. Just cannot see it on the GRUB2 bootloader. So I donb't have the option to boot to Windoze
[16:41] <StrangeNoises> ouch if c: is no :-)
[16:42] <StrangeNoises> jubale: you should use the full path
[16:42] <Lars_G> jubale: Ok, then, a) use full path for symlinking, b) check manager-linux-x64.run has the executable flag set
[16:42] <StrangeNoises> it's looking for manager-linux-x64.run in /usr/bin
[16:42] <ikonia> jubale: you'll find that link is wrong
[16:42] <StrangeNoises> yeah
[16:42] <ikonia> jubale: ls -la .//usr/bin/lampp-manager
[16:43] <ikonia> jubale: ls -la /usr/bin/lampp-manager
[16:43] <jubale> Used full path and now it says permission denied.
[16:43] <StrangeNoises> also, /usr/local/bin might be a better choice
[16:43] <StrangeNoises> for your link
[16:43] <Lars_G> StrangeNoises: c should only be harmfull if both files exist, so symlinking would fail anyhow
[16:43] <ikonia> jubale: right, so look at the permissions on the target, not the link
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> jubale: give the full math for manager-linux-x64.run
[16:44] <Lars_G> jubale: And if you're symlinking again, remove the link you created wrongly first
[16:44] <jubale> It is owned by root
[16:44] <ikonia> jubale: ok, you're not root
[16:44] <deper29> sirronb: hmm, I do not know why os-prober doesn't see windows
[16:44] <jubale> I used sudo
[16:44] <ikonia> jubale: and.....
[16:45] <jubale> and it said not permitted
[16:45] <ikonia> jubale: what does it actually say - word for word
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> deper29: what's the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[16:45] <jubale> Unable to initialize installer.
[16:45] <jubale> Is /tmp writable ?
[16:45] <jubale> Is SELinux enabled? You may need to disable it temporarily
[16:45] <jubale> Please see below for details
[16:45] <jubale> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/selinux-faq-fc3/index.html#id2826056
[16:45] <FloodBot1> jubale: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <deper29> sirronb: see what hitsujiTMO said
[16:46] <ikonia> jubale: ok, so work through those problmes, 1.) is /tmp writable for you, 2.) are you using selinux (no as you're using ubuntu I assume)
[16:46] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO /6365598
[16:46] <sirronb> deper29: I have 3 drives installed. 1 for Ubuntu; 1 for Windoze; 1 for databackups
[16:47] <deper29> sirronb: I believe you. can you pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l'
[16:47] <sirronb> deper29: It used to work until the last update. Then no more Windoze.
[16:47] <Lars_G> irgautvol: Is that md5?
[16:48] <irgautvol> Lars_G no, ref for pastebinit
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: must be some part of you gnome config causing the crash.
[16:49] <jubale> Yes, /tmp is world writable.
[16:49] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO : Yes I agree, but how do I debug?
[16:49] <ikonia> jubale: can I just ask why you are not just using a standard lamp install ?
[16:49] <sirronb> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365615/
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: the norm is to start resetting the configs by remaning them
[16:50] <jubale> Because I choose not to deal with the configurations.
[16:50] <ikonia> configurations ?
[16:50] <btorch> where does upstart keeps track of when a service is up ? I'm having some issues with it
[16:50] <jubale> Because I chose to use XAMPP. It is not a crime.
[16:50] <deper29> sirronb: can I see your /etc/fstab?
[16:50] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO : Ok which? I started renaming folders.
[16:51] <ikonia> jubale: no, it's not a crime, it just makes things a lot harder for you, so I was just offering some advice that may make it better for you
[16:51] <btorch> it thinks the service is up and running when in fact it isn't .. I see no pid for the service where it should be
[16:51] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: try starting with .config
[16:51] <jubale> I've found at easier to use XAMPP for now. I'll probably use lampp in the future.
[16:52] <ikonia> jubale: not sure how you've found it easier when you've not got it installed
[16:52] <jubale> It is installed, I shut down standard lamp services.
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: can you tell us the output of: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda | pastebinit
[16:52] <ikonia> jubale: standard lamp services ? they should not be installed unless you installed them
[16:52] <davidw> is there a way to show all packages that have a version greater than that in the repository?
[16:53] <ikonia> jubale: why would you install lamp to then install xamp
[16:53] <jubale> Yes, I did install them. I just haven't been using them.
[16:53] <ikonia> this is a bad configuration
[16:53] <sirronb> deper29: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365636/
[16:53] <jubale> My problem isn't specific to XAMPP, nor is this channel. And, I do not believe I have to justify my choice to anyone.
[16:54] <deper29> sirronb: 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[16:54] <ikonia> jubale: your problem startin Xammp IS specific to Xammp. that's why you are asking for help running it
[16:54] <ikonia> jubale: you don't have to justify anything - so I'll wish you good luck moving forward.
[16:54] <sirronb> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365637/
[16:54] <boze> When I left click it often registers a double-click on my logitech mx5500 wireless mouse. Not sure where to start. Is that a hardware, driver, or ubuntu  problem?
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: your windows install is an mbr install and your ubuntu install is a uefi install
[16:55] <jubale> No. I asked for help getting a symlink to work. I've been using XAMPP for weeks.
[16:55] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO ok that did not work. I mv .config to _oldconfig. switched user and after login have black screen again for me (gui) Other gui user is ok
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: try some of the other .folders
[16:55] <ikonia> jubale: the symlink works, thats why you are getting the error - because it's executing
[16:55] <sirronb> hitsujiTM0: What must I do to fix it
[16:55] <jubale> Okay.
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: you may need to reinstall ubuntu can you tell us the output of: sudo sfdisk -d /dev/sda | pastebinit
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> jubale  xampp does not even have its own dedicated channel (anymore)
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> jubale  that is: there's no one there
[16:57] <jubale> Manager launches if I execute it directly. Launching via symlink is what has an issue.
[16:57] <Grimm0> hey , im trying to install Ubuntu 13 on a machine with UEFI  , next to a windows 7 (dual boot), can i get support through this process ?
[16:57] <sirronb> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365656/
[16:58] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO how do I kill that vt8 session for me - to make sure I can move the .Xauth folder and restart the login
[16:58] <ikonia> jubale: it maybe statically linked
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: .Xauth isnt a folder
[16:58] <jubale> Why would that matter?
[16:58] <Grimm0> so ive formatted all drives , windows 7 is fresh installed on my SSD drive , it has one partition with 100mb EFI system partition. Now i want to install ubuntu on my secondary HDD
[16:59] <ikonia> jubale: is this ubuntu ?
[16:59] <MisioPysio> Hello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help
[16:59] <ikonia> jubale: is this on ubuntu
[16:59] <jubale> Yes.
[16:59] <ikonia> jubale: what version
[16:59] <jubale> 13.04
[16:59] <Grimm0> anything special i have to take in mind now ?
[16:59] <anon12> I removed bumblebee and installed nvidia-prime. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-prime did not work and only provided a login shell at startup. I replaced the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.backup file in /etc/X11 after rebooting the laptop's builtin monitor is in a low resolution mode of 640x480 but the external monitor on the HDMI1 output is at the right resolution. How do I get the xorg.conf file settings right to have the main monitor at 1366x7
[16:59] <anon12> 68?
[16:59] <ikonia> jubale: is it on a desktop or a virtual host
[16:59] <jubale> Laptop, not virtual host
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: sudo lsblk | pastebinit
[17:00] <StrangeNoises> Grimm0: you can pick the drive to install on, and the drive to put the bootloader on, during the install process. you probably want to put the bootloader on the win7 ssd, but the ubuntu install itself on the drive you have ready for it.
[17:00] <ikonia> jubale: ok, so there should be nothing like apparmor blocking it, so if it's staticlly linked it's expecting files to be in a certain place, normally from an absoloute path reference
[17:00] <ikonia> jubale: if your running it from a differnet working directory, eg: a symlink, those paths maybe wrong
[17:00] <jubale> Oh.
[17:00] <sirronb> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365674/
[17:01] <Grimm0> Stranngenoises, i will try this now , last time i had issues as the GRUB didnt load so it would always start up windows , not giving me the choice of which OS to boot
[17:01] <MisioPysio> Hello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help
[17:01] <boze> xev is cool
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: finally: mount | pastebinit
[17:02] <Grimm0> ok the GRUB loaded , so try ubuntu without installing , or straight to Install ubuntu ?
[17:02] <loizbek> Hi everyone, I have a DELL XPS 13z under ubuntu (with cinnamon) that behaves very strangely… 70GB are unaccounted for
[17:03] <jamin> anyone have advice on how to debug policykit issues?  I'd like to dig further into bug #1248249 but haven't found any resource on how to debug policy kit
[17:03] <hitsujiTMO> sirronb: have at some stage reinstalled windows?
[17:03] <Rory> loizbek: Can you please run the command "sudo df -h" and paste the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com then put the resulting URL in this channel?
[17:03] <sirronb> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365681/
[17:03] <Grimm0> last time i tried this , i also had issues with my graphics card , and there was a command i had to use , was it denomoset ?
[17:03] <Rory> !nomodeset | Granis
[17:03] <param> how to install make in ubuntu 12.04
[17:03] <samuelq> I just installed 13.10 with encryted LVM but at boot it's not letting me enter a password. I don't think it's accepting any keyboard input. Any ideas?
[17:03] <Rory> Sorry Granis that was meant for Grimm0
[17:04] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO sorry I meant as group ..     .Xauthority .Xauthority-c and .Xauthority-l
[17:04] <Grimm0> Rory, thank you for the link , exactly what i needed
[17:04] <Rory> param: sudo apt-get install make
[17:04] <sirronb>  hitsujiTM0: I have not re-installed no
[17:04] <loizbek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365690/
[17:04] <samuelq> Keyboard works fine pre-boot, selecting the OS to boot, and in the live CD. It's only the crypt password entry that doesn't work. I tried with a wireless USB keyboard and a cabled USB keyboard.
[17:05] <loizbek> Rory Iput the pastebin a couple lines above
[17:05] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO  the latter two is anyway zero size
[17:05] <param> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[17:05] <param> Rory : make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[17:05] <Rory> param: Looks like you already have "make" installed then :) What are you actually trying to do by the way?
[17:06] <Rory> loizbek: What do you mean by "70G unaccounted for" ?
[17:06] <DamienCassou> hi
[17:07] <loizbek> Rory: I have used baobab that says my home directory weighs 195 GB.
[17:07] <DamienCassou> since recently (probably update to 13.10), I can't enter accented characters through a dead key in Emacs anymore. It works in all other apps, even in Emacs in a terminal. I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 and Emacs 24.3.1. I use the "English (international AltGr dead keys)" input source
[17:07] <MisioPysio> Hello! Does anybody know how to change intervals in brightness controlled by Fn+ keys ? I'd be glad for help
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: ignore them for now and try other .files and folders
[17:08] <Rory> loizbek: Probably means you have something mounted somewhere in your home directory. Could you run the command "mount" and pastebin it for me again please?
[17:08] <irgautvol> hitsujiTMO I think I have tried all the resent ones
[17:09] <Grimm0> ok , im at the partition table in ubuntu intallation (something else at install) , here is where i really need help as i never got properly passed this step
[17:09] <Rory> MisioPysio: The brightness levels are generally under ACPI control with the levels defined in firmware. For example the ACPI control method _BCL "Query List of Brightness Control Levels Supported" informs the kernel how many brightness levels are supported. You can't realistically change this.
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> MisioPysio: have a look at the scripts in /etc/acpi/events/
[17:10] <loizbek> Rory http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365711/
[17:10] <Grimm0> currently i see this = /dev/sda1 EFI 100mb ,    /dev/sda2  134mb  unknown      ,  /dev/sda3 ntfs 119793mb ( this is the main SSD partition with Windows7 on)      /dev/sdb  = 1tb free space
[17:11] <loizbek> According to baobab that 195 GB folder contains :  59.8 + 27.2 + 16.9 + 12.9 + 3.4 + 1.5 + 0.23 + 0.2 + 0.13 + 0.1 + 51 folders < 100 M → total < 128 GB
[17:11] <MisioPysio> Rory i meant i have 8 brightness levels(from 0 to 7) accesable by program (i've forgot the name looks like sunshine) but when im using Fn keys its jumping to much
[17:11] <Grimm0> so i select the free space under /dev/sdb , i click the + sign , the create partition dialog pops up
[17:11] <loizbek> => 67 GB that my home folder contains are in no folder scanned by baobab
[17:12] <Rory> MisioPysio: You could install the xbacklight application http://askubuntu.com/questions/103249/how-to-increase-brightness-in-smaller-steps
[17:12] <MisioPysio> i've tried it nothing changes
[17:12] <loizbek> + I've cleared 30+ GB this week end haven't added data and today I've had to make space again, which is really really unusual
[17:12] <Grimm0> so i give 200000mb for the first partition (where i want ubuntu installed) , thats 200gig right ?
[17:12] <Rory> loizbek: Probably means you have something mounted somewhere in your home directory. Could you run the command "mount" and pastebin it for me again please?
[17:12] <irgautvol> <hitsujiTMO   .dmrc still says gnome-fallback ; I am sure I can get this out of the way it will be solved ;^) .....?
[17:13] <MisioPysio> Rory i mean i have all this things working, but only intervals when im using Fn keys are incorrect... - weird
[17:13] <Grimm0> and i make it Primary , beginneing of this space ,  ext4 . What do i use as mount point ?
[17:13] <Grimm0> just / ?
[17:13] <Rory> MisioPysio: Those intervals are defined in your laptop's firmware and can't be realistically changed
[17:13] <irgautvol> <hitsujiTMO It seems like user specific setting outside of user folder
[17:14] <loizbek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365736/
[17:14] <Rory> Grimm0: / is the mountpoint where Ubuntu is installed yes
[17:14] <irgautvol> <hitsujiTMO I may be wrong ...ofcourse
[17:14] <Grimm0> Rory, ok so i can create this partition , i dont need to create a boot partition before i do this ??
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: ok create a user and add it to the sudo group. then log into that and rename your home folder. then: sudo cp -r /etc/skel /home/<yourhomefoldername>
[17:15] <Rory> loizbek: Yes there's something mounted there, you can see by the line "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/loizbek/.gvfs" - look in the sidebar of Nautilus and you will see what is mounted. Be aware it's not actually taking any space on your hard drive, it's just mounted under /home and so is being counted by baobab
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> MisioPysio: you can try playing with xrandr --output <yourdisplay> --brightness <level>               valid levels are from 0 to 1.
[17:16] <loizbek> Rory: really I believe it goes beyond mounted drives… I would not have used 25 GB over two days without copying anything on the computer
[17:16] <irgautvol> <hitsujiTMO YES! I think that is the better way... Thanks I will try that.  I am leaving for now... Will let you know if the login has worked
[17:16] <samgabbay> Hello Canonicallians And Ubuntunians
[17:16] <Chat2235> Hi
[17:16] <Rory> loizbek: Do you have a network share mounted? What is actually in the folder "/home/loizbek/.gvfs" ?
[17:16] <anon12> I removed bumblebee and installed nvidia-prime. The xorg.conf file generated by nvidia-prime did not work and only provided a login shell at startup. I replaced the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.backup file in /etc/X11 after rebooting the laptop's builtin monitor is in a low resolution mode of 640x480 but the external monitor on the HDMI1 output is at the right resolution. How do I get the xorg.conf file settings right to have the main monitor at 1366x7
[17:16] <anon12> 68?
[17:16] <pizzasauce> is it possible to create an aliase for all users? for example, I would like to create the aliase chromium for chromium-browser --proxy-server=example:8080
[17:17] <Rory> pizzasauce: Yes, in the file /etc/bashrc
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> irgautvol: you will need to sudo chown -R youruser:youruser /home/youruser             after you you do all that y
[17:17] <Rory> pizzasauce: sorry /etc/bash.bashrc - or similar
[17:17] <Grimm0> so now it looks like /dev/sdb1 ext4 , mount point / , 200000mb . What do i do next , boot partition , or swap ? do i need swap ? i got 8 gig ram ddr3 and i can still physically add more , but i have enough HDD space to allocate SWAP space if its better
[17:18] <loizbek> Rory: can't see it on the side : I have unmounted my iPod and the DELL utility which were not in home
[17:18] <Rory> Grimm0: You don't *need* swap. YOu don't *need* a boot partition
[17:18] <loizbek> Rory: but i know nothing of that fuse daemon
[17:18] <loizbek> which is not displayed
[17:18] <Rory> loizbek: Can you run the command: "ls -alh ~/.gvfs" and pastebin it please?
[17:18] <hitsujiTMO> anon12: have you tried without an xorg.conf ?
[17:19] <abradley> Files are read-only when mounted: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365754/
[17:19] <Grimm0> oh ok ,  i understood something else . But where does it install the GRUB 2 then ? on the ubuntu partition
[17:19] <Grimm0> ?
[17:19] <abradley> How can I get rw access?
[17:19] <loizbek> Rory : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6365756/
[17:19] <Rory> Grimm0: Yes it will install it to the MBR, and files in /boot - whether that is a separate parttion or not makes no difference
[17:19] <Grimm0> keep in mind i have this UEFI setup.. dont know if thats the game changer , but had a lot of issues with it in the past
[17:20] <anon12> hitsujiTMO, should I rm/mv xorg.conf and restart?
[17:20] <Rory> loizbek: So now you have unmounted everything, does your file usage tool still over-report space?
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> anon12: mv
[17:20] <pizzasauce> Rory: thank you.
[17:20] <anon12> hitsujiTMO, what should happen after reboot?
[17:20] <Grimm0> is it still wise to add 8gig SWAP space , just to play safe ? or is that nonsense ?
[17:21] <hitsujiTMO> anon12: hopefully you should get a normal desktop
[17:21] <loizbek> Rory: Yep 195 GB… with the same folder sizes
[17:21] <anon12> hitsujiTMO, can I restart the xserver from a terminal without reboot?
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> anon12: its more or less a reboot, considering that its up before you login
[17:22] <Grimm0> device for boot loader installation goes to /dev/sda ? (thats where windows is installed)
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> abradley: if you are just getting ro when specifying rw then thats probably an issue with config on serverside
[17:22] <anon12> hitsujiTMO, I will be back in about 5~10 minutes to let you know if it worked
[17:23] <param> http://tinypic.com/r/kbcf85/5  Rory I get this error
[17:23] <abradley> hitsujiTMO, thanks for your input. THe share is setup correctly. Other windows machines can rw correctly
[17:23] <loizbek> Rory: when I first noticed this, the free space of the HD was changing in nautilus, each time I was updated…
[17:26] <hitsujiTMO> are they able to write when the machine itself is not authed with the domain tho?   the server may have seperate permissions for machine and user auth
[17:26] <Serus> Hi
[17:27] <Serus> I was thinking I wasn't feeling well, so I went to sleep for a "bit"
[17:27] <Serus> slept for 8 hours O.O
[17:28] <Kartagis> at last I'm back with kvirc
[17:28] <Serus> how is kvirc?
[17:28] <Grimm0> Can someone please tell me i got my partitions ok before i click install now , i had so much issues with it in the past , never got it right . So machine with UEFI , 128gig SSD with windows 7 installed and a EFI partition. Secondary HDD for ubuntu /dev/sdb1 = ext 4 , 200gig , mount point /        . /dev/sdb2 SWAP 8 gig , primary    , and then i got 800gig of free space i would like to partition in windows as NFTS for data sharing between 
[17:28] <anon12> hitsujiTMO, removing xorg.conf worked
[17:29] <e-coffee> O_O wow 1848 people in here
[17:29] <Serus> Grimm0, Are you the Grimm3 I talked with?
[17:29] <Pici> 70
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: us the isntaller in uefi mode?
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: is the isntaller*
[17:30] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, typing is hard isn't it :P
[17:31] <Grimm0> ow damm it wasnt loading the screen here lol . Serus , yeah thats me , same guy of this midda
[17:31] <Grimm0> hitsujiTMO , how can i know ?
[17:32] <Serus> Grimm0, mind if I talk with you in private? (in dutch)
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm): when you booted the isntaller from the boot menu did you choose: UEFI
[17:32] <loizbek> Rory : I see you are very solicitated, I guess I haven't been able to state my problem well enough for you to figure out what's wrong…
[17:32] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: are you also mount the efi system partition as /boot/efi    ?
[17:33] <Grimm0> i dont think i had that option , i am installing from a liveUSB , and when in UEFI choosing boot priority , it just gave the Sandisk USB as a possibility , but i dont think it said UEFI with it
[17:33] <Serus> Grimm0, I have a command for you that can tell you that
[17:34] <Grimm0> the efi system partition was created with the install of windows automaticly , i dint create ay EFI partition myself , but i do have the option to do that in the partition table
[17:34] <bendog> hy
[17:34] <Grimm0> Serus, can i use a command while in the partition table screen of ubuntu ?
[17:34] <Serus> Grimm0, open a terminal in ubuntu
[17:34] <bendog> kann mir jemand bissi helfen? hab internetprobleme
[17:35] <Serus> bendog, please speak english in this channel
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: you still need to mount the efi system partition as /boot/efi    .... just don't format it
[17:35] <Grimm0> serus, while in the install dialog ?
[17:35] <bendog> oh, ok. i see.
[17:35] <Grimm0> hitsujiTMO, the one that windows created right ?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: yes
[17:35] <Serus> Grimm0, click on the home dash and then type terminal
[17:35] <bendog> is there an german channel or someone who may help me?
[17:36] <Pici> !de  | bendog
[17:37] <Grimm0> serus, i dont have that home dash i think , i got the black bar on top , all the way right i have this blue guy symbol and internet symbol next to it , no home or command anywhere to be found
[17:37] <Grimm0> hitsujiTMO , if i click the EFI partition that windows created while in the ubuntu partition table , i cant edit anything except size and Use as
[17:37] <Serus> Grimm0, when you press the windows button you can see a menu right?
[17:38] <Grimm0> only hgh cntrasst , screen reader , keyboard modifier and on screen keyboard
[17:38] <Serus> but you can search right?
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: you just want to tell it to mount it as /boot/efi  thats it
[17:39] <Grimm0> nope , im thinking its because i have a second monitor , should maybe try again and unplug that one first as the resolution is not all the way ok , thats maye why its hiding the rest of the bar
[17:39] <Serus> Grimm0, what did you select? Try ubuntu or install ubuntu?
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> Serus he's in the installer mode,not live mode
[17:39] <Grimm0> hitsujiTMO, i dont find how to add the mount point ..
[17:40] <Grimm0> Serus, install ubuntu . Should have gone for try ubuntu without installing ?can start over
[17:40] <Serus> Grimm0, Too hard
[17:40] <Serus> Yes do that
[17:40] <strixUK1> hi.  i have a from-scratch ubuntu 12.04 server installation, and i am scratching my head why it doesn't perform comparably to the machine it's replacing (hostgator-configured, centos 5.9-based thing).
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm0: hmm, all i can say is hopefully the installer automatically mounts it for you
[17:40] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, It only does when he is in UEFI mode
[17:40] <strixUK1> example: loading a 230-odd MB SQL dump takes 45 sec on new machine, and 30 on old.
[17:40] <Grimm0> lets try again from try ubuntu first , sounds like more options there
[17:40] <Serus> yes
[17:41] <loizbek> Rory : I'm a dumb fuck, it was a 70 GB file not folder…
[17:41] <strixUK1> any pointers as to what sort of tuning i should be looking at?
[17:41] <h00k> loizbek: please keep the lanauge appropriate in here
[17:41] <loizbek> Rory: yet I don't understand how I get 70 GB worth of xsession-errors
[17:42] <Grimm0> i can check if its booting the drive in UEFI maybe now as wel
[17:42] <loizbek> h00k: sorry about that
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> strixUK1: you may want to ask the same question in #ubuntu-server too
[17:42] <Grimm0> yes , boot order says boot option one = UEFI: sandisk (the live usb)
[17:42] <loizbek> h00k: kind of got mad at myself for not seeing something obvious and having people loose time over it
[17:42] <loizbek> Rory: thanks for the help anyway…
[17:42] <h00k> :) been there
[17:43] <Serus> Grimm0, If that works it will boot in UEFI mode (unless it has a fallback mode)
[17:43] <Grimm0> and thats a good thing ? =D
[17:43] <strixUK1> hitsujiTMO: ah bonus, thank you
[17:43] <Serus> not really :p
[17:43] <Serus> Because that will make you think it's in UEFI mode when it's not.
[17:43] <Grimm0> mmm , can i switch it is the question then
[17:44] <Serus> Grimm0, it depends on the files that are on the USB
[17:44] <loizbek> well good night to you guys and gals…
[17:44] <Serus> good night
[17:45] <Serus> Grimm0, you should also have a tab in your irc that says "Serus"
[17:45] <Grimm0> yes i can change it , in the Hard drive BBS priorities , i could bring the 'normal' Usb : sandisk up , and its now boot option one
[17:45] <Serus> Grimm0, boot it in UEFI mode
[17:45] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Tested to log out, did nothing. When I get to the login screen I see the power button in the top bar but not after logging in anymore.
[17:46] <Grimm0> allright
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: have a look at the ~/.xsession-errors file
[17:46] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok.
[17:46] <MisioPysio> Hey im having some troubles with adjusting brightness with Fn keys, http://oi42.tinypic.com/4rax53.jpg - to ilustrate what im talking about. there are 8 levels (from 0 to 7 fully accesable by indicator brightness but not through Fn) it seems like its jumping through more than 12,5 % - like it shoudl be. Any ideas?
[17:47] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Nothing much there.
[17:47] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: thats the only log i can think of that would give a clue
[17:47] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: It says at-spi2-registryd main process ended, respawning a few times until the last line where it says, respwaning too fast, stopped.
[17:48] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Could it be a setting somehow somewhere+
[17:48] <DrGrov> ?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: its a common bug tbh. i have random indicators not load for mee all the time. for some they never see certain indicators
[17:50] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: But how come it was visible until now then?
[17:50] <olf-folks> ok guys say i accidentally apt-get installed something   and it ended up installing something that broke my computer, were would one find a log that shows what got installed and now needs to be removed
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> MisioPysio: did you have a look at the scripts in /etc/acpi/events/     ?
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:51] <MisioPysio> hitsujiTMO: forgot about it give me a sec
[17:51] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Could I sort this problem out by switching to something else than Unity?
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: you could try standard gnome
[17:51] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How stable is XFCE? That should be fine with the top bar stuff?
[17:51] <Arroweb> hi, one question, anybody has test a minimal iso of ubuntu 12.04? for any reason it stuck on sreen, but with latest version works fine
[17:52] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: xfce should be quite stable, but i've never used it. I would try gnome first
[17:52] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok. GNOME meaning what exactly? The Classic something?
[17:52] <MisioPysio> hitsujiTMO:  i have files like these in there : asus-keyboard-backlight-down and asus-keyboard-backlight-up (ironically im runing on fujitsu-siemens)
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: did you MD5 test the 12.04 mini ISO you downloaded?
[17:53] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO,  your the best
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: not classic just gnome: without the unity theme
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: you're
[17:53] <pizzasauce> has anyone successfully used Privoxy? I couldn't not make whitelist work
[17:53] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Do I need to download that at all?
[17:53] <Arroweb> ActionParsnip: yes, could you test it and tell me if to you works?
[17:53] <olf-folks> ActionParsnip, i am not good with english
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: I have it running now, i always use minimal to avoid bloat
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: its cool :)
[17:54] <Arroweb> ActionParsnip: the 12.04 version?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: yes, I like to stick with LTS
[17:54] <Arroweb> O_o
[17:54] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Well I am off to test.
[17:54] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Thanks again :)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: what video chip do you use?
[17:55] <Arroweb> ActionParsnip: NVIDIA, but with the latest version for example, it works without problems, I think could be the urls to repos from iso maybe?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: there's a package or an alternative installer ... i think the package might be gnome-panel
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: I assume you are not using an Optimus system
[17:56] <Arroweb> ActionParsnip: in vbox, the same problem
[17:56] <MisioPysio> hitsujiTMO: i've found script doing the brightness up/down thing
[17:57] <Arroweb> is something strange lol
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> MisioPysio: you may need to follow that to the actual script doing the work and modify the script. failing that you could play with xrandr .... you can get your display name from the output of: xrandr            and then run: xrandr --output <displayname> --brightness <level>       valid levels are from 0.0 to 1.0
[17:58] <TJ-> In Empathy chat client, how do we disable the automatic translation of text into emoticons? It interferes with copying/pasting code fragments, especially grep expressions
[17:58] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Strange. I logged out, did not see the power button at login screen but now when I logged in without a reboot it shows up properly
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: maybe the newer xorg is needed for your particular nvidia chip
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: i use an nvidia 6150LE onboard, works well
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: as i said earlier: its a common random bug... it happens mainly for the clock for me.
[17:59] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok. Would all other DE's have that same problem?
[18:00] <Arroweb> ActionParsnip: ok, but not works in vbox neitger (in other pc with Intel card neither)
[18:00] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: In case it does not happen with other DE's I will switch. How do I select another WM/DE at the login screen btw? Did not see anything.
[18:00] <Arroweb> for that, is something strange
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Arroweb: very
[18:01] <Arroweb> thought that could be other url on iso
[18:01] <bekks> Arroweb: Its not strange but perfectly intended that you cannot use your hosts GPU in a virtualbox vm.
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: no. gnome might as its the same base code, but they don't start apps early like what happens in unity. you can install gnome with: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel         i think     and xfce is: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[18:02] <Arroweb> bekks: In both pcs? hmm
[18:02] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, it is gnome-panel that I want. Thanks :)
[18:03] <bekks> Arroweb: Of course. Due to the nature of virtualization.
[18:03] <thoonai> hey
[18:03] <bekks> Arroweb: You can read more about that in the vbox manual.
[18:03] <Arroweb> bekks: no, but in other pc with intel is same
[18:03] <thoonai> my ubuntu 12.04 won't detect my wireless card with lspci
[18:03] <thoonai> its an intel wifi 5100
[18:03] <Arroweb> but thanks anyway, I will tray to find the problem
[18:04] <bekks> Arroweb: there is no problem.
[18:04] <bekks> Arroweb: You cannot use the hosts GPU in a virtualbox vm.
[18:04] <Arroweb> I know that
[18:04] <Arroweb> I say with other pc (intel card, normal) not works neither
[18:05] <bekks> Arroweb: Do you talk about a vm "not workin"?
[18:05] <Arroweb> then for me is strange
[18:05] <Arroweb> bekks: in pc (not vm) and vm, both
[18:05] <thoonai> does someone uses a intel wifi link 5100 in an x200s?
[18:05] <bekks> Arroweb: In a vm, just forget about it.
[18:06] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: maybe here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/261988/no-longer-able-to-use-wifi-adapter-intel-wifi-link-5100-ubuntu-12-04
[18:06] <Arroweb> bekks: yes, but the latest works fine, in both :)
[18:06] <bekks> Arroweb: You should clarify what you are talking about.
[18:07] <Arroweb> bekks: ok I will star again hehehe
[18:07] <Arroweb> start*
[18:07] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: thanks, but this doesn work
[18:07] <Arroweb> ok, I have a pc with nvidia card and other pc with intel card
[18:07] <Arroweb> right?
[18:08] <Arroweb> so
[18:08] <bekks> Arroweb: Dont use enter that often :P
[18:08] <Arroweb> sorry
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: did you card work before on ubuntu?
[18:09] <Arroweb> I had downloaded de minimal iso of 12.04 (first, to test)
[18:09] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: the output of lshw -c network doesnt display the wiki crd
[18:09] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: nope
[18:09] <bekks> Arroweb: Start stating your issue please, for clarification.
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: did you check your additional drivers section?
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> thoonai: can you pastebin the output of lspci
[18:09] <thoonai> hitsujiTMO: sure
[18:10] <Arroweb> bekks: 12.04 stuck screen, and 13.04 works fine
[18:10] <bekks> Arroweb: Solvable with installing the graphics driver.
[18:10] <AJH101> IHi I have a clean install of 13.10 but there seems to be a problem with my repos. I have installed Y PPA Manager but this cannot seem to solve the issues. Any ideas?#
[18:10] <Arroweb> hmm
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> Arroweb: what exactly do you mean by stuck screen?
[18:11] <bekks> Arroweb: Just in a vm, you have to use the guest additions, to install the graphics driver  for the vbox graphics adapter.
[18:11] <thoonai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6366016/
[18:11] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: I tried once but it doesnt found any hardware for additional drivers
[18:11] <Arroweb> bekks: ahm I talking about my pc, not vm
[18:11] <Arroweb> hitsujiTMO: purple screen
[18:12] <hitsujiTMO> Arroweb: boot with nomodeset
[18:12] <Arroweb> hitsujiTMO: ok, I'll try
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: you did not accidentaly push the wifi button off, or disable in bios?
[18:12] <bekks> Arroweb: Then install the correct graphics driver, after booting with the nomodeset option, e.g.
[18:13] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: nope and nope I checked both
[18:13] <DrGrov> So if I install XFCE4 on 13.10 it is only "sudo apt-get install xfce4"?
[18:13] <Arroweb> bekks: That isn't that I mind
[18:13] <thoonai> i have no Idea. normally lspci should recognize the card even if there no drivers available
[18:13] <Neobenedict> !uptime
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> thoonai: is there a hardware switch turned off on the laptop?
[18:14] <Neobenedict> damn 0 people, impressive
[18:14] <thoonai> so but ive to go in few minutes so I'll get back later
[18:15] <thoonai> hitsujiTMO: no there isnt
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: wifi card dead maybe?
[18:16] <olf-folks> is there a more good way to remove alot of packages at one time other than apt-get remove etc
[18:16] <thoonai> lotuspsychje: I guess so and im quite unhappy bout this ida
[18:16] <thoonai> idea
[18:16] <bekks> olf-folks: That is the best way.
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: you can list multiple packages in apt-get
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: sudo apt-get --purge remove package1 package2 package3
[18:17] <MagBo> Greetings, I'm installing Ubuntu LTS, it generates valid crypttab for swap, but by the looks of it it fails to read it.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> thoonai: you could try the livedvd and see if wifi works there maybe
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: remove the main page that you installed and the dependents will also get removed
[18:18] <olf-folks> hitsujiTMO, i installed gnome-tweak-tool and right after that i rebooted and my sound no longer works
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: try:  killall pulseaudio
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> olf-folks: that's the weirdest one yet
[18:19] <MagBo> Also, I'd like to have a shared encrypted /home with another Linux distro and I'd like to be queried for pasword when Ubuntu loads but — again — it fails to recoginze crypttab, so I need to go to tty1, luskOpen my device and mount it manually during each boot.
[18:19] <AJH101> Hi I have a clean install of 13.10 but there seems to be a problem with my repos so that they cannot update. I have installed Y PPA Manager but this cannot seem to solve the issues. Any ideas?
[18:19] <MagBo> olf-folks: pgrep pulseaudio?
[18:20] <yeats> AJH101: can you pastebin the error you receive?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> AJH101: indian repos by any chance?
[18:20] <AJH101> hitsujiTMO: UK
[18:20] <AJH101> yeats: happy to - how?! :-)
[18:21] <yeats> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> AJH101: copy and paste :P
[18:22] <AJH101> hitsujiTMO: Failed to dowload repository information.
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> AJH101: can you ping uk.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[18:23] <AJH101> hitsujiTMO: er...
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> AJH101: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363496/errors-while-updating-ubuntu-13-10
[18:24] <olf-folks> http://paste.debian.net/64151/
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> AJH101: can you pastebin the FULL output of:  sudo apt-get update     close software centre if you have it open
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> my money is on medibuntu but lets see :)
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: what is the output of:   cat .etc.issue
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: 2nd command please :) typo in the first one
[18:26] <olf-folks> superuser@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue
[18:26] <olf-folks> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[18:28] <olf-folks> ActionParsnip, i just installed it this morning
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> olf-folks: fully updated?
[18:29] <olf-folks> ActionParsnip, yeah i ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[18:29] <AJH101> ActionParsnip: Cannot find the Pastebin link address and i do not want to paste directly here - can you help?
[18:29] <olf-folks> right after i installed it
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> !paste | AJH101
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> AJH101: use http://pastie.org
[18:30] <tony__> i should be able to uninstall ati's vid drivers under software center shouldnt i ?
[18:30] <DrGrov> I am about to switch from Unity to XFCE4 on 13.10. Do settings and such what I have done now in programs and other settings be the same even though I change WM or DE?
[18:30] <AJH101> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6366096/
[18:31] <reisio> DrGrov: your preferences won't disappear
[18:31] <reisio> DrGrov: even for applications you uninstall they won't
[18:31] <DrGrov> reisio: Good if that is the case. I am a bit paranoid about that kind of stuff.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> AJH101: disable the CD as a package source, the rest is fine
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> AJH101: comment out the cdrom in your apr sources
[18:31] <SDr> what's the argument for zip to compress the current directory only, without subdirectories?
[18:31] <reisio> DrGrov: data in ~/ (that is, /home/yourUser/) is usually not altered unless you ask for it to be
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: are you planning to remove unity completly or not?
[18:31] <DrGrov> reisio: Is there any internet interaction or such in other WM or DE ?
[18:32] <reisio> SDr: the files in the current directory?
[18:32] <SDr> reisio, yes
[18:32] <reisio> SDr: if they have a . in them, you could do zip foo.zip *.*
[18:32] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: I am not sure if I should completely remove Unity. I hope that bugs would be fixed with the top bar and disappearing icons.
[18:32] <reisio> SDr: otherwise: zip foo.zip $(find . -maxdepth 1 -type f)
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> AJH101: you can use software centre to do it, or comment out the top few lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:33] <DrGrov> So the reason I asked is that I spent countless of hours tweaking Unity to my liking and if I switch I hope it won
[18:33] <olf-folks> i think it may be faster to format and reinstall rather than remove all of thoes packages
[18:33] <reisio> DrGrov: is there what now?
[18:33] <DrGrov> reisio: Huh?
[18:33] <reisio> DrGrov: no settings should be altered, they'll just sit there and wait for Unity, even if you uninstall Unity
[18:34] <reisio> DrGrov: and if they don't, you don't want to use such daft software anyways
[18:34] <DrGrov> reisio: Ok, but probably would be the best to completely remove Unity? Just to be on the safe side and start fresh so to speak?
[18:34] <AJH101> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the advice :-)
[18:34] <reisio> DrGrov: I don't know about safe, but it will help keep Xfce uncluttered
[18:34] <reisio> DrGrov: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[18:34] <reisio> DrGrov: might be out of date, now, but you get the idea
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> we had a few users having issues here removing unity
[18:35] <DrGrov> reisio: Yes, probably uncluttered is the best for me. I do not like stuff hanging around from before.
[18:35] <SDr> reisio, yup, that works, thanks
[18:35] <DrGrov> reisio: Ok. Will look into that. Thanks
[18:35] <Martinjo84> Then install xubuntu :D
[18:35] <olf-folks> im thinking about installing xu
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> !xubuntu
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> AJ_Z0: no worries dude, the CLI will nearly always give more useful output than GUI things
[18:36] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: But would I still need to keep Unity around?
[18:36] <Martinjo84> if you need it
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: thats up to you mate, i would not do it personaly
[18:37] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: You would leave Unity stuff around?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: yes, or switch to xubuntu like Martinjo84 suggests
[18:37] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: I think I know what I do until I get some peace of mind. Fluxbox.
[18:38] <DrGrov> What risks are there when removing Unity?
[18:39] <sam113101> I find ubuntu gnome to be more stable than ubuntu, is that weird?
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: its supposed to all go flawless, but we had users removing unity and break stuff
[18:39] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: Is there users who have actually managed to get it completely removed without issues?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov the risk is being stuck with just a kernel after apt-get messes up and uninstalls every dependency
[18:40] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok, that is then a no-go for me.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: im sure there are many succesfull
[18:40] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: That is a relief :)
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: if you install xfce or whatever first, its usually ok
[18:40] <DrGrov> I just can not stand Unity now with this missing power button.
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> DrGrov: check the pure link from reisio
[18:41] <reisio> sam113101: not when you consider what Unity is based off, no
[18:41] <DrGrov> lotuspsychje: Will do.
[18:41] <MagBo> !crypttab
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !info crypttab
[18:42] <sam113101> reisio: what is it based off?
[18:42] <MagBo> lotuspsychje: yeah, it's not a package. Do you know anything about how does Ubuntu handle crypttab though?
[18:42] <Semajnad> Hello, can someone help me with the best way to do the following : /home/thenetwork/usr001 - this has to have an executable in that usr001 needs to be able to run, but I want the user jailed tto /home/thenetwork/usr001/directory - this directory. Plus, the executable in usr001 folder needs to be able to access the files in the /usr001/directory
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> MagBo: sorry no
[18:43] <DrGrov> This is too complicated anyhow.
[18:43] <MagBo> ok, sorry.
[18:43] <DrGrov> Probably best to just reinstall everything from scratch.
[18:43] <reisio> sam113101: Unity? GNOME 3 and compiz, a barely maintained buggy fancy window manager
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> reisio: barely maintained?
[18:43] <MagBo> Semajnad: is the binary in question the only thing user should be capable of running?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> reisio: really?
[18:44]  * lotuspsychje is happy with unity, compiz and wobbly windows :p
[18:44] <MagBo> Semajnad: can you copy files? If so, just copy it over and do chroot jail.
[18:44]  * DrGrov is out
[18:44]  * ActionParsnip uses OpenBox and enjoys no crashes and lots of free resources :)
[18:44] <reisio> ActionParsnip: compared to other window managers, I'd say so yes
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> !info openbox > lotuspsychje
[18:45] <sam113101> unity next won't be a compiz plugin, right?
[18:45] <Semajnad> MagBo:  The directory structure /home/thenetwork/usr001 - this has an executable in and /home/thenetwork/usr001/directory - has files in the executable needs to access. So really I need those two folders available, but I don't want the user accessing the files in the usr001 folder. Plus the user needs sftp access into the second folder.
[18:46] <k1l> sam113101: right
[18:46] <Dooma> Hello. I have a question. Is the dhcp server necessary for pxe install if I have both computers behind a router?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Dooma: as long as you can get dhcp, its fine
[18:46] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:47] <TJ-> Dooma: PXE needs a BOOTP/DHCP server somewhere on the network segment, or else a DHCP relay/proxy if via a router
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> on my low powered largenetbook/minilaptop i use unity quite happily, and on my large overly powered desktop (i7 + 32gb ram) i use openbox? Does any of that seem wrong to you guys?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> hitsujiTMO: seems fine to me. I'd always use openbox, even with 1Tb RAM
[18:47] <MagBo> Semajnad: well, you can simply use two ssh-commands attached to two keys. This way when user will run ssh -i /path/to/thenetwork_sftp_key thenetwork sftp wrapper will get executed, when she runs ssh -i /path/to/thenetwork_binary_key thenetwork, binary in question will be executed.
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> openbox lookin neat here: http://www.deviantart.com/?q=openbox&offset=72
[18:48] <MagBo> Semajnad: I would strongly suggest using multiple keys and ssh-command over chroot jails, even though chroot-jails are the easiest thing to do.
[18:48] <MagBo> Semajnad: do you need any clarification, or everything that I said is understandable?
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: i dont even have a background
[18:48] <Dooma> Hmm, the router has dhcp, and it define ips automatically to computer. But, I set the TFPT server and when I start the PC to boot from network, it doesn't
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: lol, i always loved ubuntu eyecandy..
[18:49] <MagBo> I really  need some halp with this — Ubuntu generates valid crypttab for swap, but by the looks of it it fails to read it. What's more: I'd like to have a shared encrypted /home with another Linux distro and I'd like to be queried for pasword when Ubuntu loads but — again — it fails to recoginze crypttab, so I need to go to tty1, luskOpen my device and mount it manually during each boot.
[18:49] <snakeds_> Hi guys. Is Deluge the best offer for a client bittorrent to put into my ubuntu server 12.04 (i'm a student) and plug-in with my iphone/chrome/firefox for download things direct in my server? Or should i maybe try something else?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/raring.png   :)
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> snakeds_: i like transmission the most
[18:50] <snakeds_> another guy adviced me for transmission too
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> Snake2k: transmission-daemon
[18:50] <MagBo> snakeds_: if you ask me, you should use rtorrent. You can simply manage it over SSH. Transmission is another great option as you run a headless instance and control it over a thin HTTP client.
[18:50] <JokesOnYou77> snakeds_: I use transmission and set up a password pretected frontend with apache
[18:50] <MagBo> snakeds_: but I personally use rtorrnt.
[18:51] <MagBo> JokesOnYou77: is Apache HTTP server still alive? o_0
[18:51] <snakeds_> I need use what is more easyer to install, i'm jsut a student with very low experience
[18:51] <TJ-> MagoBo .... you'll need to be more specific about how you determine the 'failure to read' ... For a boot-time LUKS the initrd needs to include cryptsetup and crypttab entries and supporting kernel modules and binaries
[18:51] <snakeds_> install and run, ofcourse...
[18:51] <JokesOnYou77> MagBo: that was a joke, right?
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: i have transmission also with password prteded frontend + ssl proxied thru nginx
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: nice1 !
[18:52] <snakeds_> most people are telling transmission, i'll call for it
[18:52] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: How often did you get that problem with the top bar in 13.10 Unity?
[18:52] <snakeds_> i think it'll take me 2 hours to install completely
[18:53] <snakeds_> I didn't catch what transmission-daemon have to do with Web UI ?
[18:53] <JokesOnYou77> snakeds_: It's not overly complicated.  There is documentation on the transmission website and if you follow along and do some googleing oyu should be ok
[18:53] <snakeds_> Is web Ui the manager?
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> DrGrov: not too often. but then again this laptop can be on for days at a time
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: here's mine: http://oi41.tinypic.com/14vqqdf.jpg
[18:53] <MagBo> TJ-: great! Thanks, I'll look at initrd. Sorry, I really didn't thought that Ubuntu doesn't load all the needed stuff. But in case of encrypted swap it's just very strange because I have literally untouched fstab and cryptsetup generated by Ubuntu installer and it says "Failed to mount cryptswap1 S to skip, ...". I can lurk the logs but I thought that it's a common problem :)
[18:54] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: Ok. I just am testing now to see how many times it goes missing. Now 2 times already without it missing.
[18:54] <MagBo> snakeds_: it's backend for WebUI.
[18:54] <DrGrov> hitsujiTMO: If it continues probably will go with xfce.
[18:54] <JokesOnYou77> snakeds_: When you install the program you have the option of just running a background daemon that will download torrents for you and then you connect to that daemon from another computer over the web
[18:54] <pero> is there anyway i can control the CLI parameters that the gmail unity web app is launched with?
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: transmission-daemon comes with a web interface ... its safest to reverse proxy it thru a real web server
[18:54] <DrGrov> Brb
[18:54] <snakeds_> got it
[18:54] <mammuth> bonsoir j'ai des difficulté a me connecter a mon compt  admin  je ne peut pas changer mon password non plus que dois-je faire ? merci
[18:54] <snakeds_> but i don't have a real web server..
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> !fr | mammuth
[18:54] <bitnumus> Hi, i'm having an issue with ubuntu 13.10, i'm getting a read-only file system issue randomly
[18:55] <bitnumus> any known bugs?
[18:55] <snakeds_> So i must install apache first?
[18:55] <mammuth> merci
[18:55] <snakeds_> if i need apache i guess i'll wait for a moment
[18:55] <TJ-> MagBo: Ubuntu does correctly set-up the initrd image for cryptsetup... I used it extensively. However, you might have a syntax error in the crypttab that prevents the initramfs hooks from working as expected. To check that, I often do "update-initramfs -vuk all 2>&1 | tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then review the log afterwards, searching for "crypt"
[18:55] <snakeds_> I just put samba for work with 4 users here in my flathome
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: ActionParsnip ... i don't have anything installed to take screen shots :(
[18:55] <Jordan_U> bitnumus: That usually means that you have hardware problems. Check the disk's S.M.A.R.T status with gnome-disks.
[18:55] <snakeds_> It took me a 4 weeks
[18:55] <MagBo> TJ-: thank you so much, sir!
[18:55] <mammuth>  /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc
[18:56] <JokesOnYou77> snakeds_: you don't have to.  It can run on its own without and you can password protect it.  It's more secure with a web server because you can use ssl
[18:56] <Msi> do i need a firewall or antivirus on my ubuntu laptop
[18:56] <bitnumus> Jordan_U, i checked, it says Disk OK. would this rule the drive out ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !info scrot | hitsujiTMO
[18:56] <snakeds_> Very thank you guys!
[18:56] <Jordan_U> Msi: You already have a firewall, and no you don't need an antivirus.
[18:56] <bitnumus> i don't want to go and buy a new HDD tomorrow (this is an SSD) if there is a new bug
[18:56] <Msi> do i need to enable the firewall or does it work from its own
[18:56] <snakeds_> I'll go up for the install. My thanks for all the asnkwers
[18:57] <brontos> Hey guys, I am running 13.10 but my window management seems to be missing.  minimize max, bar all that.  Do you know how to reset it?
[18:57] <MagBo> snakeds_: you should go for nginx+SSL with self-signed certificate, I would say. I haven't heard anything about Apache for quite a while and it's quite a whale.
[18:57] <Jordan_U> bitnumus: Could you please pastebin the contents of /var/log/dmesg?
[18:57] <Ziber> with PS1, is there a way to set my SSH client's titlebar? I'm using termional, and I'd like the tabs to be set to the name of the remote server I'm connecting to.
[18:57] <snakeds_> last question Ubuntu server does have a irc chat?
[18:57] <Calinou> this channel?
[18:58] <snakeds_> omg
[18:58] <snakeds_> sorry
[18:58] <bitnumus> hmm, Jordan_U the SMART utility says 'Disk OK' but at the top, there is 'Read/Write errors' > Normalised 94, Threshold 50
[18:58] <JokesOnYou77> snakeds_: are you asking if there's a channel, or if the server edition comes with an IRC client?
[18:58] <bitnumus> doesn't that indicate its screwed ?
[18:58] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You wouldn't use $PS1 for that, but it is possible to change the title of your terminal window/tab.
[18:59] <Jordan_U> bitnumus: It may be that the drive is fine, but the cable connecting it is loose.
[18:59] <snakeds_> JokesOnYou77 If there's a channel just for ubuntu server, but i guess it is this one
[18:59] <Ziber> Jordan_U: How would you recommend I do that then?
[18:59] <bitnumus> Jordan_U, thats odd as i haven't touched it in ages!
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: if your downloading 100gb / day from a vps/dedicated server via college/work and you don't want the it department asking why you're downloading xxxx.mpg then you want ssl. you can also get actual ssl certs for free from startssl.com
[19:00] <bitnumus> Jordan_U, i'll shut it down and check cabling
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> snakeds_: #ubuntu-server
[19:00] <snakeds_> HitSujiTMO but the server is in my home, and i guess the download i'll be done by here
[19:00] <snakeds_> will*
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: you'll be fine without and web server so
[19:01] <snakeds_> \o/
[19:01] <snakeds_> Thanks dudes
[19:01] <MagBo> hitsujiTMO: yeah, but snakeds_ will leak his password in coffeeshops et al.
[19:01] <snakeds_> shit...
[19:01] <joossee> can anyone recommend a good replacement for ubuntu desktop? somethingpowerful for hands on administration?
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> MagBo: but he'll not be portforwarding his router will he?
[19:02] <ct529_> joossee: try e17.
[19:02] <TJ-> joossee: administration? Use the command line
[19:02] <ct529_> joossee: as long as it is on ubuntu.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> joossee: just install administration packages
[19:02] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: do you plan on portforward the server so you can access it out of home?
[19:02] <Serus> Can I switch from Unity to Cinnamon on ubuntu?
[19:02] <joossee> ct529_, looking that up now ty
[19:02] <snakeds_> I connect my server with SSH with one port i open-up in my router
[19:03] <joossee> lotuspsychje, those are for ubuntu desktop?
[19:03] <MagBo> hitsujiTMO: hopefully.
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> !cinnamon | Serus
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[19:03] <Msi> any tips on how to secure my laptop? always using a public wifi on my ubuntu laptop every day
[19:03] <Serus> lol
[19:03] <snakeds_> My plan was start the download in another place using my laptop or iphone and then get home my movie be here...
[19:03] <Ziber> Msi: openvpn
[19:03] <Msi> no vpn just settings or etc
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> joossee: what kind of administration are you looking for?
[19:03] <MagBo> Msi: use a non-persistant tails image. Dixi.
[19:04] <MagBo> !next
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> !info cinnamon | Serus
[19:04] <snakeds_> !next or !back Magbo? xD
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: theres a cli for transmission-daemon too, or you can go the route and add the web server + ssl cert and port forward the web server from the router
[19:05] <TJ-> snakeds_: If you're connecting to home over ssh, then use the transmission-cli client to start the sessions
[19:05] <Jordan_U> Ziber: It looks like Ubuntu does have bash configured with a terminal setting escape in $PS1, so modifying $PS1 would make sense. What is the output of "echo $PS1" for you?
[19:05] <snakeds_> sounds complicated for me hitsujiTMO.
[19:05] <MagBo> snakeds_: really simple way to access your stuff would be to ssh-tunnel. I made a simplistic autossh wrapper that does that — https://github.com/manpages/tunnel
[19:05] <TJ-> snakeds_: I use that to my server for having it mirror important/rare ISOs
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: its actually really easy.
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> Serus: install the package, logout ubuntu and re-login to cinnamon
[19:05] <Serus> Awesome
[19:06] <snakeds_> ok i'll install the transmission-daemon with the web UI
[19:06] <snakeds_> And after i think about some ssh-tunnel
[19:06] <Ziber> Jordan_U: I have set it custom: [\u@\h] (\w) $
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> snakeds_: just do it one step at a time. get the daemon running. get the interface running. get the reverse proxy running. add the auth. add the ssl.
[19:06] <Serus> lotuspsychje, awesome, thanks
[19:06] <snakeds_> I guess in maybe 2 hours i'm done
[19:07] <snakeds_> I guess i'll have to come back here in the reverse proxy step
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Serus: same works for lubuntu-desktop, e17, openbox etc
[19:07] <Corvette> are you allowed to ask offtopic questions in here
[19:07] <snakeds_> Thank you for all
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Corvette
[19:08] <snakeds_> hitsujiTMO-Mabo-TJ very thanks!!
[19:08] <Serus> lotuspsychje, I see, but I'm normal ubuntu :)
[19:08] <Serus> Is there a dev channel for ubuntu?
[19:08] <Serus> I'm on normal*
[19:08] <MagBo> snakeds_: just add your public key to your server, then put "forward yourserver 9050" in your .xinitrc (or whatever you use to bootstrap your X server at your laptop), do "sudo apt-get install proxychains" and now you can say "proxychains firefox" and open there http://localhost:$transmission_port and connect to your server's WebUI over encrypted channel, not running SSL.
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Serus: i think its #ubuntu-devel
[19:08] <Serus> ok
[19:09] <snakeds_> I'll put this in some file MagBo Thank you
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> well arent the users very polite tonight :p
[19:10] <Hounddog> why does linux hate me so much
[19:10] <Jordan_U> Ziber: Try running this command, I expect it will set the title for five seconds and then change back but I am not at an Ubuntu machine to test: echo -ne "\033]0;SOME TITLE HERE\007"; sleep 5
[19:10] <Hounddog> i cant even get gparted live to run now
[19:11] <Ziber> Jordan_U: I'm also so timid about a bunch of control characters in a command like that.
[19:11] <Jordan_U> Hounddog: Can you boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Hounddog: welcome to ubuntu where it get easy :p
[19:11] <Hounddog> nope
[19:11] <Hounddog> i cant boot any live stuff as seems
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> !details | Hounddog
[19:12] <Jordan_U> Ziber: Understandable. I got them from http://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title if that makes you feel more comfortable.
[19:12] <Hounddog> ubottu ok, full details,, i plug in usb key start my comp select load ubuntu and nothing happens
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Hounddog: how did you create the usb?
[19:12] <Hounddog> lotuspsychje: does that information help you now?
[19:12] <Hounddog> linuxlive
[19:12] <Hounddog> as always
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> Hounddog: ubuntu version you try to install?
[19:13] <Hounddog> i didnt mention instqlling
[19:13] <Hounddog> i am trying to run the live version as i currently have a fucked up version of 12.04
[19:13] <ct529_> Hounddog: did you check that the system can boot in usb?
[19:13] <Strider_> afternoon everyone
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | Hounddog
[19:14] <joossee> lotuspsychje, honestly just something better than gnome. i like and know lxkd ...?
[19:14] <Hounddog> ct529_:no havent checked but as i installed windows 8 and ubuntu previously through usb i would think it can
[19:14] <joossee> lotuspsychje, ideally i want to have a nice virtualization server...
[19:14] <licnep> is it normal for "Building database of manual pages" to take REALLY long?
[19:16] <BluesKaj> Hounddog. , the "F" word isn't tolerated here
[19:16] <Ziber> Jordan_U: Sorry, I'm trying to do too many things at once. I'll work on this later. Thanks for the link though.
[19:16] <Jordan_U> Ziber: You're welcome.
[19:18] <sam113101> what's unity-system-compositor?
[19:18] <fcgi> looking for help with libfcgi I got this channel... is there anyone here who knows about using libfcgi?
[19:19] <Strider_> Is this the right channel to ask questions about debian-install preseed configurations on Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:20] <ct529_> Strider_: you can try .... :) ....
[19:20] <sventon> hi all, Is it possible to install ubuntu on a bootable usb stick? I can only find tutorials for live disk and vagrant/VM setup
[19:20] <sventon> ?
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: xmir
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | sventon
[19:22] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: it's going to give me a seizure
[19:22] <sam113101> it keeps flickering
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: remove it then
[19:23] <Strider_> My un-assisted Ubuntu install keeps dying during partman... the problem is that Ubuntu has mounted the /dev/sda drive at some point.
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: yes you can. just don't do a uefi install
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> Strider_: uefi setup?
[19:25] <Strider_> It will ask to unmount the drive (which works) but kinda not-the-point of an unassisted install.  The normal options in the preseed file to pre-answer the question is 'd-i partman/unmount_active boolean false' but that seems to be getting ingored
[19:26] <Strider_> hitsujiTMO: I don't think so, right now I am just testing the install on VirtualBox
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> Strider_: if it was its because its looking for the efi system partition
[19:27] <Strider_> Here is a copy of my current partman configuration in preseed.cfg https://gist.github.com/brockers/7324525
[19:27] <Strider_> hitsujiTMO: Is there a way to tell it NO to look for the efi system partition?
[19:28] <Strider_> s/NO/NOT/ ?
[19:34] <joossee> hey guys can someone help me troubleshoot display issue? trying to get firemv 2250 to work in dual screen. i am making some progress after editing xorg.conf but ubuntu desktop keeps warning me on boot that "the system is running in low graphics mode" and then presents me 4 options... cant figure out what to do. ironically, warning sign is on both screens in highres graphical mode...?
[19:36] <SourceSlayer> Heyo,I can't run games on steam so I uninstalled it, but there still remians a steam file under ~/.local/share/steam that's using 15 gb, is it safe to uninstall it? And why wasn't it gone when I uninstalled steam?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> SourceSlayer  tip: there's also #ubuntu-steam
[19:37] <_joey> what happened to 'software-properties' package?
[19:37] <SourceSlayer> MonkeyDust: Oh, thank you.
[19:37] <Pici> SourceSlayer: Because package uninstalls don't touch things in user's home directories.
[19:37] <ClientAlive> Is there an easy way to determine whether Ubuntu 12.04 LTS is booted in efi mode? What was that path to  *efi/vars  ??
[19:37] <SourceSlayer> Pici: So I can just remove it, right?
[19:38] <Pici> SourceSlayer: It is likely your downloaded games, so thats up to you.
[19:38] <Pici> SourceSlayer: No harm will come if you delete it.
[19:38] <fish__> help
[19:38] <k1l> !details | fish__
[19:39] <sventon> ubottu: Are any of the methods on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent up to date. It is a lot of dead links and old repos
[19:40] <ClientAlive> So If there is content in that location does it definitively mean that my system is booted in efi mode?
[19:41] <_joey> what happened to 'software-properties' package?
[19:41] <ClientAlive> In here ""/sys/firmware/efi/vars: Unknown command.
[19:41] <_joey> I need to rconfigure installation of third party packages
[19:41] <ClientAlive> for cripe sake!! Chanel doen't like my path (syntax issue)...
[19:42] <gvo> I'm trying to do a bridged network for an lxc container and it's not working. ifconfig reports a lxcbr0 at 10.0.3.1 but that's not the address of the container. I can't figure out where that ip is being set. Ubuntu lxc, ubuntu container.
[19:42] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: do you know about any up to date tutorials ? running OSX
[19:42] <goldstar> with 13.10 I have a very strange issue with apache 2.4, the mime types for css are not being set. SO doing AddType text/css .css does not fix it. THe error is: Resource interpreted as Script but transferred with MIME type text/html
[19:43] <trism> _joey: it is still there, but that's the source package name, what are you looking for? the gui is in software-properties-gtk, add-apt-repository is in software-properties-common
[19:43] <UrielVigilant> should i type this command to improve speed of my intel GMA 950 in ubuntu 13.10 ?  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:46] <Serus> Hi
[19:46] <Serus> I installed ubuntu, but now my sound isn't working in windows
[19:46] <Serus> Is there a connection between them?
[19:46] <maujhsn> ubottu I don't have two way communication?
[19:47] <pbx> is this guide also suitable for prepping a usb key that will be used to boot a non-mac? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:48] <pbx> because i'm getting tired of "operation system not found"  :\
[19:48] <wafflejock> PBX should be fine
[19:48] <pbx> tx wafflejock
[19:48] <Serus> found a work aroung
[19:48] <Serus> around*
[19:48] <Serus> brb back to ubuntu
[19:48] <wafflejock> PBX not finding bootable USB check bios.... On phone here
[19:49] <UrielVigilant> This command is dangerous in ubuntu 13.10 with intel GMA 950  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:49] <UrielVigilant> How i know if i have th eright driver ?
[19:49] <pbx> wafflejock - yeah. it's set up right and i've booted fine with good images, but have somehow made many bad ones too
[19:50] <wafflejock> PBX happens to me with USB sometimes too just stick to discs when I can
[19:51] <pbx> wafflejock - yeah. no optical on this machine tho
[19:53] <snakeds_> I'm back 1 hour after doing the transmission-daemon questions
[19:54] <snakeds_> I did configured by how-to tutorials, but didn't work
[19:54] <snakeds_> I don't know what to do...
[19:54] <bekks> !doesntwork | snakeds_
[19:54] <tripelb> update woeking. 12.04. had been complini.g re illegal repositories for almost a week.
[19:55] <snakeds_> Thank you bekks
[19:55] <bekks> tripelb: Pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" and provide the URL of your pastebin then.
[19:55] <snakeds_> The problem is: i cound't connect to see the transmission working
[19:55] <tripelb> i wish I could pause the applying changes so I could do something else.
[19:55] <bekks> !details | snakeds_
[19:56] <snakeds_> he is "working" to the pc, but using v3m -v IPhere i found unknow url
[19:56] <snakeds_> i mean, he's actived...
[19:56] <snakeds_> i really have to reformule my sentenses
[19:56] <Tr_OLL> Hello
[19:57] <Tr_OLL> I'm a troll.
[19:57] <bekks> snakeds_: Who is "he"?, where did you find an unknown URL doing what, entering which where?
[19:57] <ro9> hi troll
[19:57] <Tr_OLL> ro9: hello
[19:58] <snakeds_> Transmission is actived, trying 0.0.0.0:9091 = no sucess, 127.0.0.1:9091, routerip:9091 = no sucess, ipforserver:9091 didn't worked too
[19:58] <snakeds_> And thank you for the attention bekks
[19:58] <bekks> snakeds_: "0.0.0.0:9091" is an invalid URL.
[19:59] <bekks> snakeds_: Use the IP of your computer, and port 9091
[19:59] <Tr_OLL> how can i do my best trolling job but do not get kicked out of this channel?
[19:59] <snakeds_> i did, unknow url is the msg
[20:00] <bekks> snakeds_: In which message? What do you do where entering what to get which message?
[20:01] <snakeds_> w3m -v 192.168.1.4:9091 -> unknow urli 192.168.1.4:9091
[20:01] <ikonia> snakeds_: telnet to the port - make sure it's listening on that ip / port
[20:05] <geirha> snakeds_: You're missing the first part of the uri. http://
[20:05] <joossee> any masters of xorg.conf in here?
[20:05] <snakeds_> gerha: lol it worked
[20:05] <bekks> !anyone | joossee
[20:07] <geirha> If you want to control transmission via a terminal emulator, consider using transmission-remote (command part of transmission) or transmission-remote-cli (third-party curses client)
[20:07] <StrangeNoises> does anyone know the list of keywords recognised by ubottu for mild chastisement purposes? ;-)
[20:08] <joossee> Dear #ubuntu, I am getting a parsing error in xorg on boot "SubSection" is not e problema valid keyword in this section. googled it and syntax all looks legit. Cant figure out th
[20:08] <ikonia> joossee: I'd suggest pastebinning your xorg.conf file
[20:09] <spartacurse> I changed my display driver from fglrx to x and now I won't reach the login screen. Could anyone help?
[20:09] <geirha> StrangeNoises: /msg ubottu !factoids
[20:09] <brontos> I have 13.10 installed and my title bar is no longer there and I am unable to resize windows.  Do you guys know how to reset/fix this?
[20:09] <joossee> ikonia, its basically just the section mentioned here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35968/multi-screen-problems-virtual-size-does-not-fit-available-size
[20:09] <ikonia> joossee: please pastebin the whole file
[20:10] <joossee> ikonia, gimme 1 min will do
[20:12] <jonneburger> if i have application, which starts from terminal, can i make some quick-launch file wich would run terminal line when clicked?
[20:13] <jonneburger> which*
[20:13] <thekkid> What's the best way to give my upstart script and user the ability to write to a log file in /var/log/
[20:14] <ikonia> thekkid: just set the permissions
[20:14] <thekkid> On the log file?
[20:14] <ikonia> thekkid: well the directory to create the log file, and then the log file to write to it
[20:14] <thekkid> ikonia: Thanks
[20:15] <siwica> I just got a new Laptop (Lenovo, 64 bit, nvidea gpu, freedos operating system). When inserting my ubuntu 13.10 live cd I can select to try ubuntu or install it, but whatever option I choose the screen turns black and there is no way for me to proceed. Any hints?
[20:16] <auronandace> !nomodeset | siwica
[20:16] <joossee> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/Qte1ZfHT
[20:17] <jonneburger> how can i get terminal to show content of folder where it currently is?
[20:17] <ikonia> joossee: who set that up, Display is not a valid subsection,
[20:17] <bekks> jonneburger: "ls"
[20:18] <jonneburger> okay, thanks
[20:18] <joossee> ikonia, i found it on a ubuntu forum? in regards to getting dual displays to work?
[20:18] <ikonia> joossee: actually is is valid, as a subsection, but I don't think you can just use it like that on it's own
[20:19] <joossee> ikonia, do i have to incluide as part of inputsection or something like that?
[20:19] <ikonia> joossee: it's normally the subsection to a section
[20:19] <samuelq> Hi, I installed 13.10 with LVM and an encrypted root (not just home directory) and at boot I cannot enter my password. The keyboard doesn't seem to recognize input. This is only for the crypt init page. The keyboard works fine in the live-CD and selecting the boot prompt. Any ideas?
[20:19] <ikonia> eg: Section "Display" could contain the subsection, but you can't have the subsection on it's own
[20:19] <samuelq> Fyi, it's a wireless USB keyboard though I had the same issue with a cabled USB keyboard as well.
[20:20] <joossee> ikonia, the "Screen" section perhaps?
[20:20] <ikonia> joossee: it's valid for a few sections
[20:20] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: can you try with legacy usb option in bios
[20:21] <joossee> ikonia, can i revert xorg 7.0 instead of whatever 12.04 uses?
[20:21] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: I tried that as well. It's the same whether legacy USB is "enabled" or "disabled" in the BIOS
[20:21] <ikonia> joossee: no, you need to use the version that comes with the distro
[20:22] <joossee> ikonia, ok... so do you know how i can structure this so it doesnt generate a parsing error? so i need to next it in a Screen and Monito section?
[20:22] <samuelq> Though with legacy disabled I can't even select Ubuntu from the boot menu. With it enabled (the default on my system) I can get past the boot menu and even enter modify the boot menu (the emacs-like window) ... it's only the crypt password entry that doesn't work
[20:22] <Frank81> can some one help me
[20:22] <ikonia> joossee: you need to put it in a valid section.
[20:22] <joossee> ikonia, sorry.. nest it in a Screen and Monitor section
[20:22] <Frank81> since i upgraded to 13.10 my usb keyboard don't works any more on boot
[20:22] <joossee> ikonia, ok i will try that now
[20:22] <samuelq> Frank81: I think I'm having the same issue
[20:23] <Frank81> any ideas how i could fix that ? it only works with the old 3.8 kernel image
[20:23] <samuelq> I just did a fresh install and my USB keyboard doesn't work for entering the crypt password
[20:23] <Frank81> samuelq maybe you got the same i have it since half a year
[20:23] <Frank81> samuelq then you got same issu right
[20:24] <Frank81> you got a logitech keyboard?
[20:24] <Frank81> do you know what motherboard you got ?
[20:24] <samuelq> Frank81: Yes I think so. I've never had issues like this before though I've never had a fully encrypted LVM volume as my root partition. Only used encrypted home directories before. I really like this better (if it actually works!)
[20:24] <Frank81> coz i checked the ini ram disk and the usb drivers get loaded i think its a complet usb stack problem
[20:24] <samuelq> Frank81: Hang on I'll get the model number ...
[20:26] <Frank81> i am so glad that i found you samuelq coz together we can make a bug submission :D i alone couldnt do that since i cant reproduce the error to verfiy it i have no secund pc with same config
[20:26] <samuelq> Frank81: It's a Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
[20:26] <Frank81> ya
[20:26] <Frank81> jackpot
[20:26] <Frank81> we got the problem
[20:27] <samuelq> Lol ... well happy to help
[20:27] <Frank81> i have a Gigabyte Mainboard too
[20:27] <samuelq> Nice!
[20:27] <samuelq> Well nice that we can actually figure out the cause at least!
[20:27] <bekks> I dont think your problems are hardware related at all.
[20:27] <Frank81> bekks nope but the bug is related to the mainboard or chipset some how
[20:27] <bekks> You both have harddisks, CPU, RAM, too. :P
[20:27] <bekks> Frank81: I dont think so.
[20:28] <Frank81> Ok  Then tell me why does it work with kernel 3.8 and not with 3.8 +
[20:28] <bekks> Frank81: Basically, you have no proof for that assumption.
[20:28] <Frank81> if all drivers got loaded?
[20:28] <samuelq> Is it possible that a kernel moduel for USB keyboard support isn't loaded?  I also found this regarding a similar issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1066376
[20:28] <supercom32> When I used "windows_package" to do an install using Chef, I noted it leaves the install package on your machine. If you run the recipe a second time, it fails (I assume because it cannot clobber the existing install file)? Anyone have experience with this?
[20:28] <bekks> Frank81: I know several people using encrypted setup with kernels > 3.8
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: might be an old bug re-occuring https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/229732
[20:29] <bekks> Frank81: So that doesnt qualify it to be a "gigabyte hardware releated issue".
[20:29] <Frank81> samuelq thats not the problem i checked the init initram disk the drivers are in and even get loaded
[20:30] <Frank81> the problem is even more tricky the keyboard works in grub befor drivers get loaded ^^
[20:30] <samuelq> Frank81: Yes same here. Keyboard is fine pre-boot, in grub, and after boot (live CD)
[20:30] <Frank81> there is a problem with the USB Implamentation it self some of the core coders a girl don't remember the name whanted to fix it befor some month
[20:30] <Frank81> and fixed her issus but still don't works for me
[20:31] <Frank81> ya for any reason it don't uses bios method to access the keyboard
[20:31] <Frank81> there are tips to disable nativ USB Support and then it should work but it dosn't
[20:31] <samuelq> When I tried that I couldn't use my keyboard in grub either
[20:31] <Frank81> right that
[20:32] <Frank81> exactly same here and i got this problem as soon as kernel got newer as 3.8
[20:32] <Frank81> i even installed the pre versions of 13.10
[20:32] <Frank81> but couldn't submit a bug since all always say i can't verify it
[20:33] <Frank81> now i can with you
[20:33] <Frank81> and you even did fresh install
[20:33] <david38400> Can anyone help please. I have just changed from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 12, but I need to feel my way around. I use Thunderbird and can't find any addresses. Is there any way I can get access to my old addresses or have I lost them forrever?
[20:33] <samuelq> Yes this is a fresh 13.10 install as of a few hours ago.
[20:33] <Frank81> submit a bug report
[20:33] <Frank81> on lunchpad
[20:33] <Frank81> and tell me link i verfiy it
[20:33] <bean__> david38400: is this a fresh install?
[20:33] <joossee> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/Qte1ZfHT UPDATED
[20:34] <david38400> Complete fresh
[20:34] <jeff__> i use cinnamon 2.0 as my desktop , love it!
[20:34] <david38400> sorry completely fresh
[20:34] <jeff__> using ubuntu 13.10
[20:34] <bean__> david38400: so your data that thunderbird had on your old install is gone then, no?
[20:34] <david38400> It seems that way...... yes
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> are ye able to chroot in and run an apt-get upgrade incase the affect package has already been fixed?
[20:35] <david38400> bean__ Can you help at all?
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: samuelq ^^
[20:35] <bean__> david38400: I'd say you're probably out of luck there unless you have a backup. They were likely stored locally in thunderbird.
[20:35] <samuelq> Wait what?
[20:35] <rustuptwist> i am using a Mac but I want to create a bootable USB stick for a windows PC laptop. the OSX usb instructions seem off. What is the best way to achieve what I am wanting?
[20:36] <samuelq> Frank81 hitsujiTMO: Should I create the launchpad issue?
[20:36] <david38400> bean__ A shame, I will have to check on Thunderbird web...... Thanks a lot
[20:36] <bekks> rustuptwist: do you use ubuntu?
[20:36] <joossee> rustuptwist, why are you here?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: can you try and chroot in first and ensure all packages are up to date. there has already been a fix released for a similar issue
[20:37] <Hecter> Hi! can you give me a headstart on finding what i miss, i am following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[20:37] <adamk> joossee: You need to put that Display SubSection inside a Screen Section.
[20:37] <rustuptwist> bekks:  not currently. I am planning to put it on a Compaq laptop. I have used in the past. I am here to get help, info, empowerment.
[20:37] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: ya i am in no problem i simply boot old kernel
[20:37] <rustuptwist> joossee:  ^^
[20:37] <Frank81> samuelq: make the bug
[20:37] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: It's a fresh install of 13.10  ... you want me to boot via the live CD again and try to update the packages?
[20:37] <jamescarr> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/r-lts-backport/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:37] <jamescarr> did it change?
[20:37] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: and your's is completely uptodate?
[20:38] <Frank81> since month its updated to the edge
[20:38] <HassanJ> Can anyone help, please?
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: please, there was an update to intramfs-tools after the cd release for a similar issue
[20:38] <bekks> Hecter: whats the exact issue?
[20:38] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Okay I'll try updating it first then ...
[20:38] <foghsho> I have a (hopefully) quick question. I have 3x Apple Xserve 2,2. They have OSX Server on them, and I want to install Ubuntu... however I am told that there is an EFI Boot issue. Just wondering if anyone has any idea on what I'm talking about, and how to move forward with the installs
[20:38] <joossee> adamk, i did? does the pastebin not reflect that?
[20:39] <adamk> joossee: The xorg.conf file you pasted is only three lines long...
[20:39] <joossee> oh my bad
[20:39] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Maybe a stupid question ... what would be the easiest way to do that? Boot into the live-CD and chroot to the encrypted fresh install?
[20:39] <Frank81> samuelq: no need since month i update and reboot always when changes to he kernel or init happen
[20:39] <Frank81> nothing changed
[20:39] <HassanJ> I have a WD external HDD and when I plug it, it doesn't get detected by Ubuntu. How can I browse the disk content?
[20:39] <joossee> adamk, ikonia http://pastebin.com/wxFPYFVH
[20:39] <Hecter> bekks : im trying to use my SSH access to allow ftp uploads for /var/www
[20:39] <HassanJ> The HDD has in-built driver but it's for windows, of course.
[20:40] <bekks> Hecter: and whats the exact issue?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: would seem to be ... i don't use encryption so i don't know whats invovled in mounting the encrypted partition
[20:40] <adamk> joossee: I *believe* every Screen section needs at least an Identifier.
[20:40] <joossee> adamk, like monitor-id ?
[20:40] <joossee> samuelq, i can help you in a few mins probably
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> adamk  screen -S [name]
[20:41] <samuelq> Frank81: It shouldn't take too long to test. Either way I think i'll file a bug as if this is really the fix they need a new live install CD. This is a show stopper for anybody using encrypted root partitions.
[20:41] <adamk> MonkeyDust: What?
[20:41] <adamk> joossee: Just some generic identifier.  Can be anything, really.
[20:41] <Hecter> when i try to log in im getting : ERROR:>   	[11/6/2013 4:30:20 AM] Control connection closed.
[20:41] <adamk> joossee: And I'm not even completely sure it's necessary now.  It certainly was a while ago.
[20:41] <Frank81> samuelq:  do so i ll watch joossee so he cant run away and he helps us the n
[20:41] <joossee> adamk, iam looking at the xorg documentation but i am not clear ongeneric identifier?
[20:42] <adamk> joossee: Give it a name.  Any name.
[20:42] <adamk> Identifier "SomeName"
[20:42] <bekks> Hecter: then your overall setup is wrong. Most likely a firewall is blocking port 20, e.g.
[20:42] <joossee> adamk just after the screen section declaration?
[20:42] <ShadowStrider> Can someone help me with KDE problem?
[20:43] <adamk> joossee: Yep.
[20:43] <ShadowStrider> I can't log in to kde because I messed up with amd driver update
[20:43] <Hecter> bekks : i will look into solving the firewall, im following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[20:43] <bekks> Hecter: Basically forget that guide.
[20:43] <Hecter> you have a better guide?
[20:44] <foghsho> Anyone have experience with installing to a mac machine? I'm concerned with the EFI
[20:44] <adamk> ShadowStrider: So the problem isn't really with KDE, but with your driver?
[20:44] <ShadowStrider> yeah I think so
[20:44] <bekks> Hecter: you dont need a guid for changing five well documented options in the config file.
[20:44] <ShadowStrider> and my wlan is not working when I'm not logged in KDE
[20:45] <adamk> ShadowStrider: Does your X server just not start up?
[20:45] <ShadowStrider> no
[20:45] <ShadowStrider> startx
[20:45] <bekks> ShadowStrider: No. Dont use startx.
[20:45] <ShadowStrider> what then?
[20:45] <joossee> samuelq, `what problem are you having?
[20:46] <adamk> ShadowStrider: We'll have to see the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file that is generated after you boot up.
[20:46] <Hecter> bekks : yeah but the problem is, im a newbie of newbies. i dont know where to look for  the config file. :/
[20:46] <ShadowStrider> and how do I recover that file?
[20:46] <bekks> ShadowStrider: start your desktop environment, like sudo service lightdm start
[20:46] <kgalahassa> why do not  command "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup"  work on my ubuntu 12.10
[20:46] <bekks> Hecter: /etc/vsftpd/vsftpd.conf
[20:46] <ShadowStrider> sudo service lightdm start
[20:46] <ShadowStrider> ok
[20:47] <Hecter> bekks : copy that :)
[20:47] <bekks> kgalahassa: We dont know? Tell us which error you get.
[20:47] <ShadowStrider> Will do
[20:47] <ShadowStrider> be back soon --->
[20:48] <samuelq> joossee: At boot I cannot enter the password for my root partition. The keyboard doesn't work.
[20:48] <Frank81> Joossee Samuelq and me have the same problem NO USB Keyboard works after grube since Ubuntu Kernel Newer then 3.8
[20:48] <joossee> samuelq, o...k. you have an unencrypted boot partition yes?
[20:48] <samuelq> joossee: USB keyboard ... Works fine pre-boot, grub, and live CD. Only doesn't work when entering the root partition decryption key.
[20:48] <Frank81> the usb hid driver get loaded
[20:48] <joossee> samuelq, ok so everything works fine up until "Enter passphrase: "?
[20:48] <Frank81> we both have full encrypted LVM
[20:48] <samuelq> joossee: Yes boot is unencrypted (I'm assuming!), the root is encrypted.
[20:49] <samuelq> joossee: Yes.
[20:49] <Frank81> joossee thats right
[20:49] <Frank81> and even after boot all works right
[20:49] <samuelq> Fyi, fresh install of 13.10 and I just checked the "Encrypt the entier disk ..." checkbox
[20:49] <kgalahassa> bekks, ok, see: http://pastebin.com/sCr2jq3A
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: Frank81 actually looking again, the fix still hasn't been pushed through
[20:49] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: :(
[20:49] <Frank81> where is it
[20:49] <Frank81> i patch my self
[20:49] <joossee> samuelq, and youve tried just entering the correct passphrase and hitting enter at the prompt?
[20:50] <Frank81> i only need to know what is happening
[20:50] <bekks> kgalahassa: sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:50] <samuelq> It doesn't accept any keyboard input.
[20:50] <Frank81> joossee even the keyboard led's don't works and even strg + alt + entf
[20:50] <joossee> cuz i am using that exact same system right now with usb keyboard and works fine. ive never had a problem with this on any bootsticks either
[20:50] <Frank81> don't works
[20:50] <samuelq> joossee: ^ ... I tried with two USB keyboards. One wireless and one cabled.
[20:50] <Frank81> so entering key brings nothing
[20:50] <Frank81> my is cabled too
[20:50] <kgalahassa> bekks, it does'nt work.
[20:50] <joossee> ok what kind of screen are you in when entering the passphrase?
[20:51] <joossee> like graphical ornomodeset or what?
[20:51] <samuelq> I would have tried a PS2 keyboard but I don't have one anymore
[20:51] <bekks> kgalahassa: then pastebin the entire output of that command please
[20:51] <Frank81> the same screen a alwys the normal enter passpharse screen
[20:51] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: Frank81: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/0.103ubuntu1.1
[20:51] <samuelq> I forget the exact text but it's a black boot screen and it asks for the password to decrypt the partition. It's after grub.
[20:51] <Frank81> the blue one and even if i got directly into the console
[20:51] <Frank81> it works
[20:51] <Frank81> as in screen so the usb driver has a problem
[20:52] <joossee> samuelq, huh that weird. you installed from a LiveCD?
[20:52] <samuelq> joossee: Yes 13.10 live CD
[20:52] <DJJeff> does anyone know what happen to the ubuntu version of inssider
[20:52] <samuelq> I just booted into the live CD fine and am able to decrypt/access the root partition. I just can't enter the password at boot.
[20:52] <bekks> DJJeff: Whats that?
[20:53] <kgalahassa> bekks, ok see this : http://pastebin.com/KZ7ELksv
[20:53] <DJJeff> or have a suggestion for an alt program like (inssider, netstumbler)
[20:53] <joossee> samuelq, hrmmm... you using a US intl keyboard in which USB port?
[20:53] <Frank81> Urgency:
[20:53] <Frank81>     Low Urgency
[20:53] <samuelq> joossee: Yes wireless USB Microsoft comfort keyboard 5000
[20:53] <bekks> kgalahassa: I doubt thats the entire output.
[20:53] <Frank81> lol that is urgs
[20:54] <Frank81> i should shoot the person who rated that as not urgent
[20:54] <joossee> ikonia, adamk new parsing error in xorg "virtual keyword must be followed by height and width value"
[20:54] <Frank81> since half a year
[20:54] <kgalahassa> bekks, but this is the full output
[20:54] <samuelq> I tried it with a cabled/wired USB keyboard as well though exact same results.
[20:54] <Frank81> samuelq
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> the actual bug listing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[20:54] <Frank81> you need to add the ohci_pci driver
[20:55] <kgalahassa> bekks, why are not you sure?
[20:55] <joossee> samuelq, im unlcear on something: these encrypted volumes were made in what exactly? You booted the livecd then made the encrypted volumes then installed from livecd?
[20:55] <Frank81> maybe coz the usb gets routed in our case over the pci
[20:55] <kgalahassa> bekks, is there any problem with my system?
[20:55] <joossee> <-- has never installed from a livecd
[20:55] <joossee> ever.
[20:55] <bekks> kgalahassa: pastebin "dpkg -l | grep virtual" and "lsb_release -a; uname -a" please.
[20:55] <Frank81> samuelq: 21:54:35 - hitsujiTMO: […] he actual bug listing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[20:55] <Frank81> 21:54:36 - Pancakez_ has left the room (Quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
[20:55] <samuelq> joossee: I forget the exact name for it but it's a checkbox in the live CD install process that asks if you want to encrypt the root partition (vs just your home directory). I believe it's a LUKS partition
[20:55] <Frank81> download and apply that
[20:56] <ShadowStrider> Hey I tried sudo service lightdm startbut it said unknow service
[20:56] <samuelq> Frank81: Can I just add the module at boot for now?
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> seems its missing the usb host driver required for your chipsets
[20:57] <ShadowStrider> any ideas how to proceed?
[20:57] <Frank81> samuelq right that
[20:57] <Frank81> you need to add it to the intiram disk
[20:57] <Frank81> tutorials are around
[20:57] <ShadowStrider> And btw I've Kxstudio 64 bit 12.04.3 installed
[20:57] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Ok ... this is progress now
[20:57] <bekks> ShadowStrider: You have to install lightdm first...
[20:58] <kgalahassa> bekks, ok, a minute please
[20:58] <Frank81> i will probally wait till the commited fix is aviable
[20:58] <joossee> samuelq, ok my only suggestion is to install from an actuall install CD and do the paritioning mnually or barring that using guided.
[20:58] <joossee> good luck
[20:58] <ShadowStrider> but my internet connection doesn't work if I'm not on KDE
[20:58] <Frank81> and update then but good to know that some one has done something
[20:58] <Frank81> after half a year
[20:58] <ShadowStrider> I can't locate eg www.google.com
[20:58] <bekks> ShadowStrider: And I strongly doubt kxstudio is supported in here.
[20:58] <Frank81> today is a good day
[20:58] <ShadowStrider> yeah but it's ubuntu based
[20:58] <samuelq> joossee: Yeah I don't think that'll work as the end result would be the same. The encyrpted disk won't be able to be decrypted at boot because of the missing USB support. Looks like hitsujiTMO has a possible fix though.
[20:59] <bekks> ShadowStrider: Doesnt matter, it isnt supported in here.
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: chroot to the drive, edit /etc/initramfs-tools/modules      add:     ohci_pci       run: update-initramfs -u   and you should be ok hopefully
[20:59] <ShadowStrider> So what should I do?
[20:59] <bekks> ShadowStrider: It isnt an official derivative.
[20:59] <bekks> ShadowStrider: you should contact the kxstudio support.
[20:59] <samuelq> Frank81 hitsujiTMO: Anything special for the chroot  (like making sure /dev etc are avail) or vanilla "chroot ." is fine?
[20:59] <Hecter> bekks : this made the fix -> chown root:root /home/username
[20:59] <Hecter> @_@
[21:00] <ShadowStrider> eh I've tried but I don't seem to get any help
[21:00] <bekks> Hecter: Thats the worst idea ever.
[21:00] <bekks> Hecter: Actually, that breaks things.
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: not sure what's needed exactly for initramfs
[21:00] <Frank81> samuel q
[21:00] <Frank81> wait short
[21:00] <Frank81> i do that and reboot
[21:00] <Frank81> and after that you see if it works or not
[21:00] <Frank81> wait 2 min
[21:00] <FloodBot1> Frank81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:01] <samuelq> Ok I'll try it ... it's a fresh install so no issue if I break something
[21:01] <samuelq> brb
[21:01] <Frank81> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-13-generic
[21:01] <Frank81> soon we will know it
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> Hecter  can you still work as non-root, now?
[21:01] <Hecter> bekks : "Because of a recent vsftpd upgrade, vsftpd is "refusing to run with writable root inside chroot" -> so its a bad guide
[21:01] <kgalahassa> bekks, ok see: http://pastebin.com/WQwjsjtx
[21:01] <ShadowStrider> Is there other options than contacting kxstudio supoort?
[21:02] <joossee> WOOOOHHOOOO thanks #ubuntu got my firemv 2260 working with both monitors!! kudos!
[21:02] <bekks> Hecter: Thats not a bad guide. We told it to you yesterday already, that it isnt possible.
[21:02] <bekks> ShadowStrider: We dont know.
[21:02] <joossee> thanks to adamk and ikonia andall others
[21:02] <bekks> ShadowStrider: And no, there arent other options. It is their spin off, it is their support.
[21:02] <joossee> its been a three day odyssey and i am changed man. thank you and goodnight!
[21:02] <bekks> ShadowStrider: You could just use Ubuntu.
[21:03] <ShadowStrider> well
[21:03] <ShadowStrider> Uninstall that and then install kxstudio on top of ubuntu?
[21:03] <bekks> ShadowStrider: We dont support kxstudio.
[21:03] <bekks> ShadowStrider: Thats a distro, not an addon.
[21:03] <superjoe> I have a fresh installation of saucy. I compiled and installed some stuff which went into /usr/local/lib and then tried to run a program which depends on that library and I get "cannot open shared library"
[21:04] <superjoe> why is this? I thought /usr/local/lib was the correct place to put compiled libraries?
[21:05] <ShadowStrider> It's possible to install on top of the ubuntu when installing all the binaries
[21:06] <TheyTookErJobs> Hey are any adjustments required to have ubuntu process 8 core processors? my top shows all three load averages around 1.0 and with an 8 core 4.0 with 24 gigs of ram it should be much lower ;)
[21:07] <bekks> ShadowStrider: That5s your choice. Every problem arising from doing so is unsupported in here.
[21:07] <TJ-> TheyTookErJobs: It depends whether one or more processes may be hogging cores
[21:07] <ShadowStrider> eh going with clean reinstall
[21:07] <ShadowStrider> problem solved
[21:07] <ShadowStrider> almost
[21:07] <ShadowStrider> :D
[21:07] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, alright. I've gotta go but when I come back I will troubleshoot this :)
[21:08] <TJ-> superjoe: use "ldd $BINARY" to find out which libraries the exectuable is linked to
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> TheyTookErJobs: what speed is each core running at? are they hitting 100% while being underclocked by anychance?
[21:10] <superjoe> TJ-, ok I did and everything looks fine: https://gist.github.com/superjoe30/7326369
[21:11] <superjoe> wait, wtf, it works now
[21:11] <TJ-> superjoe: Is there another library the binary depends upon, too? "ldd $BINARY" will show any missing links
[21:11] <superjoe> the hell? I didn't change anything
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> superjoe, This is a world wide channel crossing cultural, ethnic, age lines please keep the language appropriate.
[21:13] <mercutio> is anyone here using ubuntu trusty?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> were not interested in you emotions honestly
[21:14] <ianorlin> !anyone
[21:14] <mercutio> my X broke and i had to downgrade.
[21:14] <hitsujiTMO> mercutio: #ubuntu+1
[21:14] <mercutio> heh oops :)
[21:14] <mercutio> err i just had to downgrade the X package
[21:14] <HaveFantasy> ernet.org
[21:15] <mercutio> but it segfaults when trying to start
[21:15] <hitsujiTMO> HaveFantasy: this is not a place for advertising!
[21:15] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Crap I screwed up something trying to add the module in the chroot
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: in what way? how did you screw up?
[21:16] <mercutio> ok so probably no-one using trusty with X :)
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> mercutio: try #ubuntu+1
[21:16] <mercutio> what's #ubuntu+1?
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> mercutio, 14.04? I am
[21:17] <foghsho> Anyone have experience with installing to a mac machine? I'm concerned with the fact that Macs run EFI (no BIOS) and was curious about it
[21:17] <samuelq> Not sure exactly but I don't think I properly created the initrd ... it's a clean install so if i can't fix it'm just going to reinstall and try again
[21:17] <mercutio> ohh
[21:17] <hitsujiTMO> mercutio: #ubuntu+1 is for the beta
[21:17] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: ^^
[21:17] <mercutio> thanks
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: are you still in the chroot?
[21:18] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: No I rebooted and it didn't boot. I just restarted into the live CD again.
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: can you remember the exact commands you did?
[21:19] <supNow> could use some help and am hoping not to be tossed around to other channels due to the nature of the issue. I'm getting an issue when trying to import a file to sql on ubuntu server. It's suggesting that it might be file size setting in the php.ini. I went ahead and ajusted anything related to the max file size and still get the same error. The php.ini file I edited was found in etc/php5/apache2 is that the one I should edit or does ubuntu server 13.10 have
[21:19] <supNow> it located somewhere else?
[21:19] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Yes. 1) I mounted the encrypted partition (worked). 2) Mounted /boot to it (worked). 3) Added ochi_pci to the module list 4) Ran update-initramfs -u
[21:19] <daftykins> supNow: did you restart the daemons after the config file change?
[21:19] <supNow> the sql file is only 5.4m
[21:20] <andreb> hi all
[21:20] <supNow> daftykins, I ended up rebooting the entire system, would that do it?
[21:20] <daftykins> supNow: so what was the *actual* error? rather than what it suggested
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: try doing a full mount set for the chroot.   mount /dev /sys /proc and /dev/pts
[21:21] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Oh yeah I did /dev, /sys, and /proc. I didn't do /dev/pts though
[21:22] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Let me try it again with all four. Hang on
[21:22] <hitsujiTMO> i've found i've needed /dev/pts with uefi, can't remember exactly what for
[21:22] <andreb> question : i am trying to mount a ntfs share from one of my windows box ... i am using this command "sudo mount -t cifs -o username=test,dir_mode=0775,gid=1005 //192.168.10.1/backups /media/winshare" .... I created a group call cifshares and added my user to it.... i run the command it prompts for the password i enter it..and it mounts the drive.,... but my user cant write to the share... if
[21:22] <andreb> i use the same command and do uid=1000 and remove gid=1005 .. the user can write... any ideas what i am doign wrong ?
[21:22] <supNow> daftykins, let me try again so I can pull up the exact error
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> andreb add rw to the options
[21:24] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Should I include my /boot mounted as well?
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: if its a seperate mount then yeah
[21:24] <kgalahassa> bekks, ok see: http://pastebin.com/WQwjsjtx
[21:24] <andreb> hitsujiTmo : it still doesnt work
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> andreb does it work for other users?
[21:25] <andreb> one sec
[21:25] <bekks> kgalahassa: Uninstall the ubuntu packages for virtualbox and install the latest official packages from the official vbox website.
[21:27] <andreb> hitsuj : it works for the other user... and not mines... they are both in the same group :(
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> andreb what os is the other user using?
[21:29] <andreb> hitsu : its a windows 7 box
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> andreb: is the account on a domain?
[21:29] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Ok I re-ran update-initramfs but I'm getting an error message too
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: whats the error?
[21:30] <samuelq> I can't copy paste (different computer) but it's approx: Invalid line in /etc/cryptab ... LUKS- ....
[21:30] <andreb> hitsuj : the account that is able to write to the share isnt on the domain.. the account that cant write is on the domain
[21:30] <samuelq> I can get the full message if you'd like ... will take a minute to type it (across the room)
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> andreb: in that case you're missing the domain= option
[21:31] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Actually I think it's just a warning
[21:31] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/332950
[21:31] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: I'm going to try rebooting again
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> if it still doesn't work let me know, there's one modification to try
[21:34] <andreb> hitsujitmo : still no luck... the user thats not on the domain can write.. and the other user cant
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> andreb: anything in the logs in the server give any indication?
[21:37] <andreb> hrm..
[21:37] <Silvio-> Hey guys i have a question: http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/29290/ One of my sites was just hit with this, i updated my php version but i do not fully understand if im still vulnerable?
[21:38] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: Okay yeah I must have screwed something up before because now it won't boot. It's complaining lvm volume does not exist
[21:39] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: I think I'm just going to reinstall everything
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> samuelq: ach ... maybe that wasn't a warning afterall
[21:39] <Silvio-> this is my current PHP version: PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.21 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Sep  4 2013 19:13:13) and its below 5.3.12 which that exploit db says is vuln, does that mean my current php is also bad?
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> Silvio-  is that ubuntu server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[21:39] <samuelq> hitsujiTMO: lol ... now he tells me! ;-)
[21:39] <Rory> Silvio-: I recommend all sysadmins read the first answer here http://serverfault.com/questions/218005/how-do-i-deal-with-a-compromised-server
[21:39] <samuelq> no worries ... it's a new install so nothing lost
[21:41] <andreb> hitsujitmo : hrm.. but all the other users in teh group can.. i will double check to ensure my user is there.. thanks for all the help
[21:41] <abradley> autofs nfs share not mounting. auto.master: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367032/
[21:41] <abradley> auto.nfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367033/
[21:42] <abradley>  /mnt/nfs/proxmox exists locally already
[21:42] <abradley> when autofs starts /proxmox disappears
[21:43] <ianmac1> I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?
[21:43] <joossee> is there a trick for getting your network card into 5ghz?
[21:44] <histo> joossee: all devices on the network need to be N based or whatever
[21:45] <joossee> histo, ya on the network side everything is fine. im connected to 5ghz now
[21:45] <joossee> histo, but network manager not seeing 5ghz network?
[21:46] <hackujin> I'm trying to do a release-upgrade on 12.04.3 but it's saying no new release found
[21:46] <daftykins> hackujin: there's no new LTS version right now.
[21:47] <auronandace> hackujin: by default it would look for the next lts (14.04 isn't released yet)
[21:47] <hackujin> I also edited /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set to normal but that upgrade fails
[21:47] <WobbleHeadDoll> Greetings everybody.
[21:47] <hackujin> I'd like to get it to 13.10 if possible
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> hackujin, wait till 14.04 is out for the lts
[21:48] <hackujin> is it impossible to upgrade to 13.10 ?
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> hackujin: getting to 13.10 involves 3 upgrades
[21:48] <WobbleHeadDoll> Has anybody had any luck getting ATI Legacy drivers to work on XServer 1.13?
[21:48] <Calinou> you need to do 12.04 to 12.10 then 12.10 to 13.04 then 13.04 then 13.10 :)
[21:48] <Calinou> lengthy, but possible
[21:48] <wilee-nilee> hackujin, dual boot 13.10 transfer your stuff, and get it setup how yo like.
[21:49] <hackujin> it's a server :/
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: what kernel do you have?
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: uname -r
[21:49] <hackujin> so how do i make it detect 12.10 update?
[21:49] <Calinou> or stay on 12.04
[21:49] <geirha> hackujin: Any reason you can't wait for 14.04?
[21:50] <Calinou> non-LTS is less useful on a server :P
[21:50] <hackujin> trying to install libapache2-mod-fastcgi
[21:50] <WobbleHeadDoll> uname -r yields 3.8.0-32-generic.
[21:50] <hackujin> but I have a custom apache 2.4 installed and it's not working with it
[21:50] <hackujin> but on another 13.10 server it works fine
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: ati legacy targets 2.6 and wont build on 3.8
[21:50] <LeMike> Simple problem and I always forget: While editing files in /var/www with my IDE they all become user and group me:me . So just +r for www-data. How do I accomplish that www-data can +rwx at any time?
[21:51] <WobbleHeadDoll> How would I be able to get drivers for my ATI Mobility Radeon HD4xxx series card then?
[21:51] <hackujin>  libapache2-mod-fastcgi : Depends: apache2.2-common (>= 2.2.4) but it is not going to be installed
[21:52] <Frank81> Hi
[21:52] <Frank81> samuelq: all works
[21:52] <WobbleHeadDoll> I heard it may also be because the XServer is 1.13 and the legacy drivers only support XServer 1.12.
[21:52] <Frank81> i am so happy more then happy after more then 6 month i have now the new kernel and all works with usb
[21:52] <hackujin> Problem is I'm using this https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/apache2 for apache 2.4.x
[21:53] <hackujin> You guys know of any way to fix the conflict?
[21:53] <samuelq> Frank81: Everything worked?
[21:53] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: thx you 100 times for posting this bug link it worked 100% well i am so happy if you need anything coding related add me ask me i can help you probally
[21:53] <Frank81> samuelq: all like a charm now
[21:53] <samuelq> Can you share exactly what you did for chroot/update? I tried it an bonked my install :/
[21:53] <Frank81> adding the ohci_pci driver is 100% the problem
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> seems last supported version that can run that card is 12.04 (not 12.04.2 or 12.04.3)
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: ^
[21:54] <Frank81> i don't needed to chroot into my install i got a old working 3.8 kernel i booted it and it worked
[21:54] <Frank81> but since your is a fresh install i give you now one big advice
[21:54] <WobbleHeadDoll> Is it possible to downgrade my 12.04.3 LTS 64-Bit installing to a 12.04 installation without having to go through the process of downloading and reinstalling the entire OS?
[21:54] <Frank81> reinstall without LVM
[21:54] <samuelq> Frank81: lol
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | Frank81 unfortunately didn't go so smoothly for samuelq
[21:55] <Frank81> it makes only problems and if you realy whant some parts un encrypted encrypt em
[21:55] <Frank81> but i can tell you sha1 is cracked allready
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> WobbleHeadDoll: not sure tbh, it's not something i've ever tried
[21:55] <Frank81> and you don't need the NSA for that since people like me have amazon accounts the encryption is not worth it
[21:55] <WobbleHeadDoll> Ok, thank you hitsujiTMO. Perhaps some research on Google might be able to provide me with answers. Thank you for all your help!
[21:56] <Frank81> there are realy effectiv matching attaks against the encryption
[21:59] <Frank81> ok hitsujiTMO lets solv my next problem
[21:59] <brontosaurusrex> jawohl
[21:59] <Frank81> i use skype on ubuntu and its wine ported when it makes sounds
[22:00] <Frank81> i get a realy bad signal sound that don't stops until i stop the application
[22:00] <Frank81> a realy realy bad sound realy hurting
[22:00] <Frank81> it has something to do with pulse audio driver i think :D what can i do
[22:00] <Frank81> and one other big big problem if me is i have one Application that window the top of it is always out of screen so i cant realy move it
[22:01] <Frank81> how can i get it back into the screen :D
[22:01] <daftykins> Frank81: hold left Alt, click and drag
[22:02] <Frank81> daftykins: wunderfull thx
[22:02] <Frank81> today is a good day today all my dreams become reality
[22:02] <Frank81> all works
[22:02] <Frank81> :D
[22:02] <Frank81> i am so happy cant stop typing that sorry
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: not very knowledgeable about wine i'm afraid. I avoid it like the plague. Why not use the native binary?
[22:03] <Rory> hitsujiTMO: The version of Skype for Linux just flat out isn't as good as the Windows version
[22:03] <Rory> It's about 2 years behind
[22:03] <Frank81> Rory: its a wine port there is no skype for linux
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> I see ...
[22:03] <Frank81> you can do a find and see it
[22:03] <Frank81> it creates wine dirs
[22:03] <Rory> Well TIL
[22:03] <Rory> !info skype
[22:04] <asc232> -topic
[22:04] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: i would love to use skype linux nativ binary maybe you can support microsoft with doing one
[22:04] <Frank81> :D
[22:04] <Jpmh> Frank81 and Rory www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/‎
[22:05] <Frank81> Jpmh:  ITS a WINE Version !
[22:05] <Frank81> Download it install it look whats get created with checkinstall or else you will see it
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> frank most of my audio issues are with pulse audio ... i have 2 installs with the same intel audio. crackling on the install that has pulse, crisp clean sound on the one without.  dropping the audio levels in the pam control fixes the issue for others
[22:05] <bekks> Frank81: There is no such thing as a "skype wine version". There is a windows binary that may be executed under wine.
[22:05] <Frank81> thx a lot hitsujiTMO
[22:06] <Jpmh> Frank81:  I have not tested it recently but I certainly in the past have run skype on both Macs and Ubuntu and have NEVER installed wine
[22:06] <Frank81> bekks ok there is a Skype Package that uses WINE
[22:06] <Frank81> Jpmh look do find / -iname 'wine'
[22:06] <Frank81> and look what you get :D
[22:07] <Frank81> i examined the skype port early coz i try since years to reverse engeneere some parts of it
[22:07] <bekks> Frank81: There isnt. You can use the Windows binary using wine, thats all.
[22:07] <Frank81> it was more easy to get a real windows source code then the one of skype
[22:08] <Jpmh> you CAN use the windoze version under wine or you can go to the page i gave you and get the correct version for your distro
[22:08] <auronandace> !skype
[22:09] <andyc> are there normally any problems adding a desktop file to /usr/share/applications?  I'm just trying to add eclipse but it wont appear - do I need to run somethign to update the list?
[22:10] <kostkon> Frank81, the linux version is not a wine port
[22:10] <Frank81> ill verfiy that
[22:10] <Jpmh> kostkon: that's what I keep telling him - I even gave him the download page - he choses to ignore facts
[22:11] <kostkon> Jpmh, :/
[22:11] <auronandace> Frank81: perhaps you are thinking of teamviewer, that uses its own custom wine directory
[22:13] <FrancisH> hey guys, ive tried setting up ircd-hybrid, and the ports are open within my home network, but I get connection refused.
[22:13] <JPSman> so i'm using gdm and I have "free'd the fish" - how do I kill the fish without having to killall gnome-panel ?
[22:14] <FrancisH> any help with my irc problem?
[22:14] <kgalahassa> bekks, I'm trying.
[22:15] <Rory> FrancisH: Can you see the port is open when you use nmap? (nmap hostname -p portnum)
[22:15] <Rory> FrancisH: Or try telnetting to that port and see if you get immediately kicked off (telnet hostname portnum)
[22:15] <FrancisH> one sec rory
[22:16] <FrancisH> yeah i get right away kicked off
[22:17] <FrancisH> what does that mean?
[22:18] <Rory> FrancisH: It means there's nothing actually listening on that port
[22:19] <FrancisH> ok…so what do i have to do?
[22:19] <Rory> FrancisH: If you run "netstat -tulpn" you can see what port (if any) it's listening on. Are you sure it's actually even running?
[22:19] <Rory> FrancisH: Might have to use sudo netstat -tulpn
[22:20] <FrancisH> no I see the ranges set in the conf file, so 6665 to 6669
[22:20] <Frank81> wow
[22:20] <Rory> FrancisH: Do you see that in the output of netstat -tulpn?
[22:20] <FrancisH> yes
[22:20] <Frank81> htop now shows each cpu core
[22:20] <Rory> Frank81: Which actual port is it listening on?
[22:20] <Rory> Frank81: sorry that was intended for you
[22:21] <Rory> FrancisH: ^^^
[22:21] <Rory> wow
[22:21] <Frank81> Rory i know i have no port problems any more
[22:21] <Rory> Yes Frank81 I was just hitting Fr[tab] but it fills in the most recent nick. My messages were both intended for FrancisH
[22:21] <Frank81> in the last 4 month i made networking my primary knowleg fild coz i created a totally new way to send data accross networks
[22:22] <Frank81> i wanna offer it as SaaS
[22:22] <Frank81> it speeds up tcp traffic by more then 600%
[22:22] <Rory> FrancisH: If you look in the "PID/ProgramName" column to find your IRC daemon, then look at the corresponding entry in the "Local Address" column, what does that say?
[22:22] <Rory> !ot > Frank81
[22:23] <Frank81> cool !ot > Rory
[22:23] <bubba> ciao
[22:23] <Frank81> ehm wait
[22:23] <Frank81> !ot > Rory
[22:23] <bubba> !list
[22:23] <FrancisH> it just says tcp
[22:23] <Frank81> cool i can use the bot too today is realy a good day
[22:24] <Rory> FrancisH: Could you copy the full output of "sudo netstat -tulpn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in channel?
[22:25] <FrancisH> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367246/ there you are rory
[22:25] <Rory> OK FrancisH I can see from the first line in the table that ircd-hybrid is listening on port 6667
[22:26] <FrancisH> ok...
[22:26] <Rory> FrancisH: Is that the port you have been trying to connect to?
[22:26] <FrancisH> yes i believe so let me try again
[22:26] <Frank81> Rory who runs that bot? called ubuntu?
[22:26] <Frank81> its vulunerible
[22:27] <FrancisH> in adium it still says connecting
[22:27] <Rory> FrancisH: Can you connect to that port on telnet?
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: if you want to report any vulnerabilities about the bot, do so in #ubuntu-ops
[22:27] <LeMike> what's with that pem_umask? i edit the /etc/login.defs changed UMASK to 0002 but it is still 022 ...
[22:27] <Rory> FrancisH: FYI being able to PM someone without having to say it in this channel is not a vulnerability, it's a feature
[22:27] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: thx again your today realy my bestfrind :D
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Looking up your hostname...
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** Checking Ident
[22:28] <FrancisH> :hybrid7.debian.local NOTICE AUTH :*** No Ident response
[22:28] <Frank81> you made the keyboards working again :D
[22:28] <FrancisH> that what it gives me
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: Well in that case it is actually connecting to the server perfectly fine
[22:28] <FrancisH> cool so its just my irc client that is weird?
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: lol, np
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: I'd recommend finding the help channel or other documentation for the IRC daemon and asking there
[22:28] <FrancisH> ok cool thanks alot Rory i appreciate it
[22:28] <Rory> FrancisH: Those messages are coming from the IRC daemon you see, so if it wasn't connecting you wouldn't see them
[22:29] <FrancisH> cool thanks!
[22:29] <Rory> FrancisH: Also I'm not totally up on IRC, but it seems like you're trying to identify or something, but haven't set up anything to recognise what that means "No ident response"
[22:29] <FrancisH> ok ill look it up
[22:30] <eer> How can I change the vars shown with locale permanently? I can not find the vars in ~/.bashrc /etc/profile or ~/.profile
[22:31] <samgabbay> does anyone know how to decrypt a opepgp key?
[22:32] <Rory> samgabbay: What do you mean by "decrypt" do you mean decrypt a file which has been encrypted using that key?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> eer: $LANGUAGE and $LANG?
[22:33] <eer> hitsujiTMO, but the scheme is territory.codeset, right?
[22:33] <eer> hitsujiTMO, where is the codeset stored?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> eer: example: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE
[22:34] <samgabbay> nevermind got it
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> eer: that will work if you have the en language pack installed.
[22:34] <disappearedng> Hey everyone. I have a windows 8 desktop which I just freed up 100 gb and installed ubuntu on it (mount point was '/'). I chose /dev/sda for the boot loader and when ubuntu has finished installing I arrive at just the grub menu when I reboot my computer (just grub >). Any ideas on how I can boot into ubuntu?
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> eer: when you install a language pack it should list the supported locales
[22:34] <eer> hitsujiTMO, I don't have an update-locale command. Is it not installed by default?
[22:35] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Try the bootrepair app, and save the bootinfo summary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> eer: it should be. it works on a debootstrap install so it should be there for all
[22:36] <JoeyJoeJo> I'm running out of disk space and I'm trying to track down large files and folders. Is there a program that can scan my hard drive and show a graph of filesizes?
[22:36] <eer> hitsujiTMO, is there a way I can change the way date is displayed system wide? I want everything to be in English but the US American way of displaying the date drives me nuts. It is not logical to me month/day/year. I want day/month/year
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, this a W8 install you did and no uefi?
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> eer: update-locale should address all of that
[22:37] <mads-> JoeyJoeJo, disk usage analyzer. Comes with Ubuntu
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> eer: you need to run it as root too
[22:37] <eer> man update-locale -> No manual found
[22:38] <sharpnel> eer,  custom format
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> eer: the command is there on 12.04 and 13.10 what version are you running?
[22:38] <eer> 13.10
[22:38] <eer> The program seems to be there but no man page.
[22:39] <eer> I can run the command but it doesn do anything
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> eer: whats the output of update-locale without sudo?
[22:40] <Pinkamena_D> What would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu
[22:40] <eer> hitsujiTMO, update-locale: Unable to write /etc/default/locale: Permission denied
[22:40] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: I think there is EFI
[22:40] <disappearedng> how can I cehck
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, If this is a OEM it is.
[22:40] <disappearedng> it is OEM
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> eer: its working alright. you just need to reboot to see the effect of the changes
[22:41] <eer> hitsujiTMO, what changes?
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Try the bootrepair app it is set for these sort of problema and others, and kicks out that bootinfo summary for analyses.
[22:41] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: I just did, still ended up at this grub> menu
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> eer: whatever changes you set here ->: update-locale LANG=en_IE.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_IE
[22:41] <disappearedng> so annoying
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, You save the bootinfo?
[22:42] <eer> hitsujiTMO, how about the date?
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> eer: it takes it from that info
[22:42] <disappearedng> I pressed ok then the dialog closed. Let me redo it
[22:42] <eer> I mean date format
[22:43] <Trudko> hi guys, I am going to install bunch of stuff regarding Ruby On rails development on my env, thing is I done this few times already, including installation on ubuntu server. What is best way how to automate installation ? I need to install Ruby, apache, mysql, rbevn etc etc
[22:43] <Guest54735> anyone have trouble with wifi connection dropping with the new slackamander 13.10?
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> eer: the format is assumed to be the same as LANG, unless you specify otherwise so you could add LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 to the list above if you wanted everthing irish except LC_TIME
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, This is not the best place for this problem at times, the ubuntu forum has a couple of people focused on this, that boot summary and uefi in a thread header will have them stop by a thread.
[22:44] <eer> hitsujiTMO, will try. Gotta run now. Thx for your help.
[22:51] <jayar> anyone having wifi issues with the new saucy 13.10?
[22:51] <ianmac1> I really like the hover menu in the panel at the top of the screen in Saucy. Is there a way to make that menu (File, Edit, etc) visible ALL the time, not just on hover?
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> jayar, State the issues with the wifi hardware info for help.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: unfortunately no. it;s been brought up as a usability issue a few times but so movement on that.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: the argument is that they want to get people to use the hud instead
[22:52] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, Ah, thank you. Hopefully they'll add an option to turn it on.
[22:53] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, Hmm.. perhaps they should focus on letting the user personalize the desktop they way they want instead of trying to get people used to something.
[22:53] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: well if you have time please take a look: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371774/windows-8-oem-on-dell-desktop-installed-ubuntu-on-partition-reboot-to-see-only
[22:53] <ianmac1> just my $0.02
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: you're absolutely right on that
[22:54] <ianmac1> :)
[22:54] <reisio> ¢
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: Did you read the documentation on installing ubutntu to a uefi system?
[22:54] <disappearedng> jhutchins_wk: what's a uefi system?
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: What you've got.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> disappearedng: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:55] <ianmac1> disappearedng, I believe UEFI is secure boot
[22:55] <Rory> disappearedng: The easiest way is to disable Secure Boot in your BIOS and reinstall Ubuntu
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> !uefi
[22:55] <disappearedng> jhutchins_wk: eh, no, since I don't even know what UEFI is
[22:55] <ianmac1> jhutchins_wk, thaks for that
[22:55] <jayar> having troubles with my wifi dropping "out of range" randomly, even when right next to router - 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, uefi is a mystery for most of us, the manufacturers have their own versions, as I stated the ubuntu forum has a couple of people on every day focused on this. They use the bootinfo summary to get this stuff fixed, you would make sure to have uefi in a thread to get their attention.
[22:56] <bekks> jayar: Beeing too close to the router heavily impacts signal strength.
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> ianmac1: It's part of how secureboot is implemented, but it's been around for a while.  IBM uses it, Intel Macs use it.
[22:56] <jayar> it doesnt matter how close or far i am...
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> jayar try disabling n on the module
[22:56] <ianmac1> jhutchins_wk, Ah, yes, I remeber having to disable it to install an old Ubuntu version on a laptop earlier this year
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Thread header that is.
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> ianmac1: Linux/grub have been able to work with it for several years now.
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1994792
[22:58] <disappearedng> ok thanks guys, will reinstall. Seriously I had no idea about UEFI lol
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> jayar: sorry that should be 11n_disable=1                https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1034740
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, If you are getting a grub> I doubt you need to reinstall, but do what suits you.
[22:58] <Pinkamena_D> What would I have to do to get windows domain computer names to resolve correctly from ubuntu? Usually I need to register with the domain on the windows computers. (I have the username and password for this)
[22:59] <disappearedng> and install the bootloader on /dev/sda right?
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, in a msdos yes, uefi I don't think so.
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> Pinkamena_D: https://www.zulius.com/how-to/resolve-windows-netbios-names-from-linux/
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, Do you have the W8 backed up?
[23:02] <Kardinal> Good evening all.  Has anyone else experienced the problem of their mouse disappearing (becoming invisible) in Unity and LightDM?  I'm able to log into an account I have setup with Gnome shell and once this loads the mouse icon appears.  This happened this evening after I applied some updates and then did a reboot.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Have you modified unity, and were you on with another nick yesterday with this issue?
[23:03] <Pinkamena_D> it always says "ping: unknown host"
[23:03] <VlanX> hello... any idea how i can expand the used ext3 partition inside a virtual machine?
[23:03] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: actually I don't care much about the w8
[23:03] <disappearedng> I only use it for age of empires
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, I only use mine for word and grad papers, however that is enough for me to keep it usable, could this be the same basically for you.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> is age of empires something you want in other words
[23:05] <disappearedng> serious when can steam port age of empires to steam on linux?
[23:05] <disappearedng> yeah
[23:05] <disappearedng> I haven't touched windows in a long long time
[23:05] <joossee> hey guys trying to get a TPLINK WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks? everything else working fine... notmuch help on google
[23:05] <disappearedng> mostly mac as I am a developer, and goobuntu at work
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> VlanX: expand virtual drive first, then boot the vm with a live cd and expand the partition with gparted. unless you're using lvm, which you have to expand with the lvm tools. ALWAYS do a backup first.
[23:06] <Kardinal> Hi Wilee-nilee:  Answer : No - no Unity tweaking.  No - first time I'm reporting this issue as I've just hit it this evening.  BTW - It is Ubuntu 13.10.  The Gnome shell is 3.8
[23:06] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, So I'm assuming there is no way to disable the dash altogether. I don't use it, I find it annoying. I've hidden it but it still pops out on file drag and drop and other times.
[23:06] <Calinou> disappearedng: google employee... prepare for fans and the NSA running to you
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Is 3.8 a ppa version?
[23:06] <joossee> it uses ath9k i do believe
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> ianmac1: unfortunately i haven't heard of a way. should be possible, but have no idea if its an easy fix or not
[23:07] <Kardinal> yes, 3.8 PPA version.  I have it on my ToDo list to check out Gnome 3.10 in a Virtual Machine build.
[23:07] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, ok, I'll keep researching. Thank you very much for your help.
[23:07] <glassres1stor> im having an issue with the Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 on 12.04, basically it works at some wifi but not others where its gets allot of excessive retries and misc errors'
[23:07] <disappearedng> Calinou: Ex, now I am running my own startup
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, Nice dreams, however ppa's are not supported here and I suspect the root of the missing cursor, you aware of ppa-purge?
[23:08] <glassres1stor> the general search results are to turn off power mgmt and disable N11 which i've done without much help
[23:08] <disappearedng> wow linux mint is nice
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> disappearedng, mint is ubuntu in drag and not supported
[23:10] <Rory> wilee-nilee: That's certainly a unique description of Mint.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> my own, lol
[23:10] <Kardinal> Correction - mymistake - I should have stated that Gnome-shell was installed via Software Centre, PPA is what is required for 3.10.  Gnome is fine with the mouse cursor - it is Unity that seems to have done the vanishing act!
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, What releases you running?
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> release*
[23:12] <disappearedng> wilee-nilee: if I reboot and I don't see grub at all (booting straight into ubuntu), is it correct that I assume that 1. Grub is installed, 2. Grub just doesn't present me the selection screen because it couldn't detect the partition for windows?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> 12.04 to 13.10 which is it
[23:12] <Kardinal> Base install was Ubuntu 13.10 desktop i386.
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> Kardinal: the gnome ppas usually aren't compatible with unity as they replace common dependencies
[23:13] <dkb0> my audio stopped working
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> !sound | dkb0
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> kardan, try a reset on unity and compiz. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[23:13] <dkb0> tried rebooting, tried resetting pulseaudio, looked at alsamixer, everything's fine
[23:14] <dkb0> nothing wrong with my hardware
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> Kardinal, sorry look at the message to kardan
[23:14] <Kardinal> Thanks for that link - I'll check it out and see if that helps.  Much appreciated.
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> kardan, Sorry.
[23:14] <glassresistor> whats the best way to reinstall completely remove and readd the iwlwifi drivers etc.
[23:16] <Rory> glassresistor: It depends how you installed them in the first place
[23:16] <dkb0> hitsujiTMO: already went through the troubleshooting
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> dkb0: where is the sound braking so?
[23:17] <hitsujiTMO> breaking?
[23:17] <dkb0> sorry, i'll be back later
[23:17] <glassresistor> Rory: using apt-get might have used a ppa trying to back to default settings and see how it looks
[23:17] <Rory> glassresistor: You can use "sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename"
[23:17] <joossee> Can anyone help me get WDN4800 to see 5ghz networks?
[23:19] <Rory> joossee: Can other devices connect to the network at 5ghz?
[23:19] <joossee> yup.. like this laptop im on right now!
[23:20] <joossee> Rory, dualband router, one is named "-2" other isnamed "-5" so i know for sure..
[23:21] <Rory> joossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it
[23:21] <Rory> joossee: Also can you just clarify what Ubuntu version you're using, sorry if you already said
[23:22] <joossee> Rory, 12.04
[23:23] <Rory> joossee: Is it that the -5 SSID doesn't show up, or is it that it *does* show up, but you can't connect to it
[23:23] <Rory> joossee: Also could you please put the output from the command: "lspci -nn" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the resulting URL in this channel?
[23:23] <joossee> Rory, doesnt show up in the list in network manager...
[23:25] <Rory> joossee: OK so as well as "lspci -nn" I would like to see the output from "sudo iwlist scan"
[23:25] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/pnE6jAXC
[23:28] <joossee> Rory, can I do a sduo iwlist scan | grep Frequency:5 instead?
[23:29] <Rory> joossee: No because that would only show the line that says "Frequency 5" and not the surrounding info. Feel free to censor SSIDs and MAC addresses if you are worried
[23:29] <joossee> Rory, iwscan doesnt return any 5ghz networks, just 2.4
[23:30] <Rory> Right OK
[23:30] <joossee> Rory, `does kismet pickup 5ghz? perhaps i can see more details...?
[23:30] <Power1> Is there a fast way to remove old kernals from /boot to free some space?
[23:31] <Rory> joossee: By the way, do you know this device supports 5Ghz? Just because it says "wireless n" doesn't mean it does - did you have it working in Windows or something?
[23:31] <joossee> it clearly sez 5ghz on the box?
[23:31] <joossee> tp-link wdn4800
[23:31] <joossee> its pretty recommended in all the forums and stuff, i researched quite a while i am certain it does 5ghz
[23:32] <Rory> Power1: use uname -r to find your current version. Then "dpkg --list | grep linux-image" to view all installed kernel packages
[23:32] <Rory> Power1: Then "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic" for each one apart from the one you're using
[23:32] <joossee> Rory, no windows on this server, but if it helpsmy phone and my laptop can both see and connect to 5ghz from same location...?
[23:32] <joossee> (laptop is 5ghz)
[23:32] <Power1> it wont let me remove them with sudo apt-get purge
[23:32] <joossee> i have low gain atennas hooked up to the card as well\
[23:32] <bekks> Power1: Why not?
[23:33] <Power1> is there a pastebin site?
[23:33] <bekks> Power1: Pastebin the full output please and give us the URL.
[23:33] <dkb0> okay
[23:33] <bekks> !paste | Power1
[23:33] <Rory> Power1: It might be "sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename"
[23:33] <dkb0> so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked.
[23:34] <dkb0> anybody able to help?
[23:34] <joossee> Rory, WDN4800 uses ath9k chipset and i disabled hwcrypt in modeprobe since this chipset is known for lagging...?
[23:34] <silveira> usb speakers?
[23:34] <dkb0> silveira: regular sound jack, i don't know the technical term
[23:35] <Power1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:35] <Power1> and im out of space on boot
[23:35] <Rory> joossee: I'm researching currently
[23:36] <joossee> Rory, ty .. ill be at this for a while so do your thing..
[23:36] <Rory> joossee: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo iwconfig" ?
[23:36] <joossee> yes
[23:36] <joossee> sudo iwconfig
[23:36] <joossee> oops
[23:36] <Serus> Has anybody installed teamspeak?
[23:36] <Rory> !anybody | Serus
[23:37] <dkb0> anyone?
[23:37] <Serus> lol
[23:37] <silveira> dbk0, if speakers plug into a standard audio jack, then the next thing to check would be sound card function, using headphones perhaps
[23:37] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/zwq1qTdT
[23:37] <Serus> "Who installed teamspeak" doesn't sound right
[23:38] <bekks> !anyone | Serus
[23:38] <Rory> Serus: Yes, some people in the world have installed teamspeak, to answer your question
[23:39] <dkb0> ...okay, let me restate it then
[23:39] <dkb0> "so my sound isn't working. my computer recognizes the speakers, and there's nothing wrong with the speakers themselves. i tried rebooting, resetting pulseaudio and checking alsamixer to see if it's muted, and nothing worked."
[23:39] <silveira> dbk0, what chipset of soundcard do you have?
[23:40] <Serus> How do I install teamspeak? It shows up in the software center, but it doesn't give me the option to install it.
[23:40] <Rory> OK joossee here's where I'm at with my google-fu: Your output of "lspci -nn" shows that your device is a "AR93xx" - according to the information here (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k) it could be one of four devices. Three of them support dual-band, but one of them (AR9331) does not - I'm trying to determine if your chip is that one
[23:40] <dkb0> silveira: not sure, how do i check? it was working fine for ages before this happened.
[23:40] <sventon> hi all, I followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx to create a bootable USB stick but then rebooting the USB are not found
[23:40] <joossee> Rory, ok awesomethank you. to help: from what ive read this is a newish card and thepeoplemakingpsots dont seem to clear about whether thevy connected a 2 or 5 ghz...
[23:41] <silveira> dbk0, a "lspci" might tell you what ubuntu sees as your sound chipset
[23:41] <rch-matt> having an issue with ubuntu laptop switching screens on ubuntu 13.04.03 lts. gives the error: requested position/size for crtc 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1366,0) size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920,1920)
[23:41] <Rory> joossee: Can you pastebin "sudo lspci -vvv" it will be very long
[23:41] <Rory> joossee: You might have to do "sudo lspci -vvv > outputfile" and then open "outputfile" ina  text editor, to stop the terminal chopping off the start of the output
[23:42] <joossee> Rory, roger thAT
[23:42] <Pinkamena_D> I am sorry for my jumpy responses in the past. I am still looking for how to resolve hostnames of windows machines on my ubuntu box. From another windows box which is not registered to the domain, the names will still work and ping correctly, so this should not be as complicated as I throught at first
[23:42] <chomwitt> i always see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/index.html  in greek language. how can i see it in english?
[23:42] <Pinkamena_D> when I use the ping command, am I supposed to be putting just the name or smb:\\thename or something else?
[23:43] <Pinkamena_D> (I have tried both of those)
[23:43] <silveira> Pinkamena_D, have you tried putting entires for the windows machines in your "hosts" file?
[23:43] <Power1> it looks like i need to rub apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:43] <Pinkamena_D> they have dynamic ips
[23:43] <dkb0> silveira: hmm, my headphones do work actually. i don't think there's anything wrong with my speakers though.
[23:44] <dkb0> anyway, here's this: http://pastebin.com/NkSLNbnD
[23:44] <Rory> chomwitt: When you visit that page, does the URL change?
[23:44] <silveira> dbk0, in that case there might be a mixer setting for output level, to switch between the low output range good for headphones and the higher output range needed for speakers.
[23:45] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/yelmJ9LQ i pasted the part for the NIC in question, which convenenitly appeared at the very bottom. can report wholeif necessary
[23:45] <Guest6558> ciao a tutti
[23:45] <Guest6558> !list
[23:45] <chomwitt> Rory: no
[23:45] <silveira> dbk0, sometimes it's called "external amp" or something like that
[23:46] <dkb0> silveira: where would that be configured? didn't find anything in alsamixer.
[23:46] <Rory> joossee: Says it's been removed
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, let me see again.. i have tomanually type pastebin urls
[23:47] <Rory> joossee: Use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:47] <silveira> dbk0, it would be configured somewhere in alsamixer, usually
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, http://pastebin.com/yeimJ9LQ
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, ^^ thats the right one
[23:47] <joossee> Rory, sorry im ircingonphysicallyseperate machine
[23:48] <silveira> dbk0, are these speakers with a builin amp which might not be getting powerright now, or something like that?
[23:48] <dkb0> silveira: dammmnnn, i feel incredibly dumb. the speakers became unplugged, that should have been the first thing i checked for.
[23:49] <dkb0> thanks for the help
[23:49] <silveira> a ha :)
[23:49] <wafflejock_> dkb0: haha always step 1 check for power :)
[23:49] <Rory> joossee: Hmmm, still nothing more specific to be gleaned from that. Does it have a more specific model number on the box or on the card itsself?
[23:49] <dkb0> i'll keep that in mind next time
[23:49] <wafflejock_> dkb0: I always laugh when I see that in troubleshooting manuals but apparently it's a good idea :)
[23:50] <joossee> Rory, what wouldi belooking for... it came with a CD for windows, might those inf files have morespecificity? i can read the card but i will have topower down server and remove it which is kinda pain in butt?
[23:50] <Power1> it looks like i need to run apt-get -f install but I have no space on boot to install the new kernel. Here is the paste bin when running the perge command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[23:51] <joossee> Rory, they only make one model of this card, again its relatively new
[23:51] <Rory> joossee: Basically, I've reached the limit of my ability. Go on this page [ http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k ] and ctrl-F for AR93 - you will see 4 possible models highlighted. If you can somehow determine if your card is a AR9331 you will know that dual-band isn't suported by the driver
[23:52] <Rory> joossee: But I can't work out how to make it give anything more specific than "AR93XX"
[23:52] <joossee> Rory, from reading the inf files i believe it is 9330 does thay make sense?
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: lscpi -nn
[23:53] <wafflejock_> joossee: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2032357
[23:53] <silveira> joossee, if this is a pci card, you could get the pci id numbers at boot time, and from that know your model number
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: lscpi -nn | Network             that will give the pci and ven ids
[23:54] <Power1> I think my apt-get is broken
[23:54] <Rory> joossee: Ah then that probably means it's not supported at 5GHz since in the context of that inf file, 9330 probably means "933X" and the only chip matching that in the driver is the AR9331 which has single-band support only
[23:54] <joossee> Rory, ok but I mean... are you saying the hardware doesnt physically support 5ghzor just the driver im running?
[23:54] <Serus> is it me, or is VLC's quality worse on linux?
[23:55] <Rory> joossee: I mean the ath9k driver doesn't support it; the hardware does, physically, in theory
[23:55] <joossee> Serus, display drivers on ubuntu are wrose..specially amd
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> Serus: vlc just sucks in general
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> ive made full backups of all of my files. i would like to completely reinstall the unity desktop. how can i do this?
[23:55] <Serus> I use nvidia drivers I think
[23:55] <pero> hitsujiTMO: do reco something better...
[23:55] <AcidRain2012> when i boot into unity, every window leaves trails. looks like the entire desktop is fully broken
[23:55] <Serus> hitsujiTMO, that's not true, recent updates made it allot better.
[23:55] <bekks> Serus: Works fine here
[23:56] <Geo_> it works fine here too
[23:56] <Serus> Could be me
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> Power1: why do you think apt-get is broken
[23:56] <balM> Hello, I'm trying to set the correct time on my box but it doesnt work, I'm using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set the timezone. Any help would be appreciated, thanx.
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> I've always had issues with vlc over the last 10 or so years (or however long its been around) mainly syncing issues
[23:56] <joossee> Rory, Rory
[23:57] <wafflejock_> hitsujiTMO: has been much better in recent times
[23:57] <wafflejock_> hitsujiTMO: not sure what changed
[23:57] <joossee> Rory, looking at that link you posted... Mine is a PCIe model, which are all marked DB or dual band?
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> in fairness i havent used it in a few years but
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> balM: have you sync the time with an npt server?: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[23:58] <Serus> bekks, yeah, it was the video. I do get a tiny bit stuttering in the beginning, but that's because the raspberry pi
[23:58] <Morgawr> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the proper place to ask for this question but I have an intel HD4000 integrated GPU and I wanted to use OpenGL 3.2 but apparently mesa only supports OpenGL 3.0, I read that it's coming out with mesa 10 that has support for OpenGL 3.2
[23:59] <Rory> joossee: I'm only going by the number, and also by the fact that you are using the ath9k driver, and clearly 5GHz isn't working :P
[23:59] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, does anyone in here know how I can kill X with a shortcut key in Ubuntu?
[23:59] <Morgawr> I installed the mesa drivers from a more up-to-date ppa that says I have mesa 10 but it still reports opengl 3.0, does anybody know where I can check and find the 3.2 drivers?
[23:59] <bekks> Serus: So how did you get the nvidia chipset onto a raspi? And do you run Ubuntu on your raspi?
[23:59] <balM> hitsujiTMO: No I didnt, I tought there is another way to do this like date ..