[01:13] <bluesabre> Noskcaj, congrats!
[01:13] <bluesabre> You're welcome to maintain catfish there
[01:14] <bluesabre> But what steps do you have to take to become part of that team?
[05:29] <Noskcaj> bluesabre, Thanks. All you should have to do is show them a few package updates. Saying you are upstream and downstream for catfish and being willing to maintain it should be enough. Join #debian-python on OFTC for more info
[06:58] <leif_> greetings
[07:04] <leif_> :)
[09:00] <elfy> anyone else getting problems with pkexec? isn't it supposed to be a drop in for gksudo? 
[09:01] <elfy> cos it drops out here ... 
[09:03] <Unit193> Never has worked for me, and saw a note in ubi quity that it didn't on Lubuntu and Xubuntu.
[09:03] <Unit193> !info gksu
[09:03] <ubottu> gksu (source: gksu): graphical frontend to su. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-6ubuntu2 (saucy), package size 26 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:04] <elfy> yea - I don't actually use pkexec or I'd have said something earlier ;)
[09:06] <Unit193> Bug 1193526 points to https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9626#c2  And of course you don't, it doesn't work, nobody uses it. :D
[09:06] <ubottu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 9626 in Applications Menu "Don't double-fork when spawning from menu." [Normal,New]
[09:06] <ubottu> bug 1193526 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Clicking "Install Xubuntu 13.10" in live session doesn't work." [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193526
[09:10] <elfy> I remember that one Unit193 
[09:10] <Unit193> But, my guess is unrelated. :P
[09:10] <elfy> I think so 
[09:10] <Unit193> Panel != xfce menu after all.
[09:17] <elfy> mmm from what I can see replace gksu with sudo ... 
[09:25] <Unit193> What a great fix in bug 1241210 - https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/software-properties/dont-use-deprecated-reboot-commands that suuuure is fixed...
[09:25] <ubottu> bug 1241210 in software-properties (Ubuntu Saucy) "shouldn't use deprecated gtk-logout-helper" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1241210
[09:54] <ochosi> Unit193: i use it with synaptic (via appfinder, "pkexec synaptic") and it works for me
[09:58] <elfy> ochosi: try thunar
[09:58] <elfy> Thunar: Cannot open display:
[09:58] <ochosi> why would i? i never use my filemanager for that rooty stuff :)
[09:58] <elfy> from a terminal 
[09:58] <elfy> you might not :p
[09:58] <elfy> people do that sort of thing though :)
[09:59] <Unit193> apport, gparted, synaptic, release-upgrader, update-notifier, pklalockdown, and xfpm-power-backlight-helper is a complete list of everything on this system that will work.
[10:00] <Unit193> grep policykit.exec.allow /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/*
[10:03] <Unit193> Less useful to me, as you can't  sudo echo  to "unlock" the graphical one first.
[10:07] <slickymaster> morning all
[10:08] <elfy> morning slickymaster 
[10:11] <slickymaster> hi elfy, how are you?
[10:13] <elfy> ok thanks - calm before the storm probably :)
[10:14] <slickymaster> :) it's always like that
[10:25] <ochosi> hey slickymaster 
[10:25] <slickymaster> ochosi: morming
[10:25] <ochosi> you might've seen already, most of your docs are now on docs.xfce.org
[10:25] <ochosi> thanks a lot for the great work!
[10:26] <ochosi> there are still some small bits and pieces missing, but it's already starting to look good
[10:26] <slickymaster> ochosi: but it's still missing two items, "Save playlist" and "Audio track"
[10:27] <ochosi> slickymaster: yes i know, we decided to copy things over gradually
[10:27] <slickymaster> ochosi: TBH I didn't knew that they were already moved to xfce.docs.org
[10:27] <ochosi> oh, i didn't notice you don't have a remote login so i guess you didn't see the backlog
[10:27] <slickymaster> ochosi: well, I'm planning on finishing it this week
[10:27] <ochosi> sweet
[10:27] <ochosi> other than that, only the plugins are missing i think
[10:28] <slickymaster> ochosi: but I'm not being able to fully understand the "Auio track" option, to be honest
[10:28] <ochosi> (we're currently looking into getting one more plugin into the 0.6 release, not sure yet whether we'll make it)
[10:28] <slickymaster> ochosi: can you shed same light on it, for me
[10:28] <ochosi> slickymaster: if a video-file has more than one audio-track included, you can switch languages there
[10:29] <ochosi> so e.g. if a movie is originally in chinese, but there's english dubbing and you have both of that in your video-container, you can switch via the menu
[10:29] <ochosi> same thing exists in vlc and in totem, i guess
[10:29] <slickymaster> ochosi: that was my assumption, but as I don't have presently video files with separate audio tracks I couldn't confirm it
[10:30] <ochosi> right
[10:30] <ochosi> anyway, i gotta run and check a few things
[10:30] <slickymaster> ochosi: thanks for the heads up on docs.xfce.org
[10:30] <ochosi> no problem, sorry you didn't hear it before
[10:31] <ochosi> bbl
[10:31] <slickymaster> ochosi, cy then
[12:55] <davmor2> oh interesting direction that debian have chosen it should help you guys out :)
[12:56] <knome> ?
[12:56] <ochosi> well it's 1) not for sure that xfce will be the default debian DE
[12:56] <ochosi> and 2) i'm not sure about the beneficial effect of that
[12:57] <knome> what are we referring to?
[12:57] <ochosi> it probably won't hurt, but "helping out" might be a bit over-the-top
[12:57] <ochosi> knome: there are discussions in the debian desktop-team about using xfce over gnome3 by default
[12:57] <knome> wasn't there discussions about that looong time ago, like half a year?
[12:57] <ochosi> (there were already in the previous cycle, and nothing is decided yet)
[12:57] <knome> yeah
[12:58] <knome> i was thinking whether davmor2 was referring to systemd/Upstart discussion
[12:58] <knome> (which is what i found with a little poking)
[13:00] <davmor2> knome: no I was going for the xfce by default :)  
[13:06] <ochosi> knome: poking or puking?
[13:07] <pleia2> haha
[13:12] <davmor2> ochosi, knome: by helping I was thinking more that the packages may be easier to import and might receive slightly more attention if it is the default desktop
[13:23] <ochosi> possbile
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[14:29] <jjfrv8> afternoon, slickymaster. sorry you didn't get the word about the docs getting copied.
[14:32] <jjfrv8> but I guess you know that from here on out we'll be working on the real sections
[14:32] <jjfrv8> I see that the edits you made today are in the Usage section, so that's good.
[14:34] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: hi jack, hope everything is alright with you
[14:35] <jjfrv8> hey, yup, fine thanks
[14:36] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: well, truth is that's my fault, as I can always browse through the logs, but TBH this last weekend I hardly had time to seat down and open my computer
[14:36] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: yes, I've worked on it this morning, and I'm planning on finishing it by the endo of the day
[14:37] <jjfrv8> np. I didn't know if you would have a chance to see the backlog but I didn't have an e-mail address for you
[14:37] <jjfrv8> so I couldn't warn you that way
[14:37] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: slickymaster at gmail
[14:37] <jjfrv8> ok
[14:38] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: do you need some help on anything else? I'll be more than willing to help
[14:39] <jjfrv8> well, when we split up the menu selections, we didn't mention the DVD one, 'cause it's not always visible.
[14:40] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: If you want me I'll take a stab at it
[14:40] <jjfrv8> I'd like to try that one, so if you want to take Video, you can have that one. If you won't have time, I can do them both.
[14:40] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: ok, we've got a deal :) I'll take the video and you'll get stuck with the DVD
[14:40] <jjfrv8> :)
[14:41] <jjfrv8> I saw ochosi's explanation about audio tracks earlier today. I'm going to see if I can simulate that on a dvd and get a screenshot of it.
[14:42] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: I was planning on doing it later on, at home as I don't have any DVDs with me, here at work
[14:43] <jjfrv8> ok, let me know how it turns out.
[14:44] <slickymaster> jjfrv8: will do
[14:49] <jjfrv8> bbl
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[22:00] <slickymaster> good night all