[00:48] <xubuntu179> hello
[00:48] <cfhowlett> xubuntu179, greetings
[00:50] <xubuntu179> so I would like to start helping develop xubuntu and was wondering if someone could explain how getting involved works
[00:50] <cfhowlett> !contribute
[00:50] <ubottu> To see how you can help out with Xubuntu, please see http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[00:51] <xubuntu179> ok thanks
[00:57] <xubuntu179> #xubuntu-devel
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[01:22] <xubuntu293> hello
[01:22] <xubuntu293> how can i configure key bindings on xcfe or thunar??
[01:31] <David-A> xubuntu293: do assign keys to do window manager functions, see Settings>WindowManager>Keyboard, to run any command or program, see Settings>Keyboard>ApplicationShortcuts
[01:54] <xubuntu293> i want to bind buttons to specific events
[02:01] <David-A> events?
[02:08] <xubuntu293> yeah, i want to bind mouse click event that is already binded to button1 to button9, so the computer can recognize it as a click
[02:09] <xubuntu293> i used xev to know button's names
[02:21] <David-A> xubuntu293: you can configure xbindkeys to run a command when either a mouse button or a key or key-combo is pressed
[02:22] <David-A> xubuntu293: you install it from the repository and configure it with a text file ~/.xbindkeysrc
[03:04] <slash0mega> can i install xubuntu from withing a ubuntu instalation?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, yes.
[03:05] <slash0mega> how would i go about that?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, to get a taste of the look and feel, sudo apt-get install xfce4    logout change the desktop environment, login
[03:05] <cfhowlett> (for lubuntu) sudo apt-get lxde
[03:06] <cfhowlett> if you like what you see, I'd advise downloading the ISO and clean install
[03:06] <cfhowlett> but
[03:06] <cfhowlett> you could try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <cfhowlett> *clean install* really is better
[03:06] <slash0mega> well, i allready use xubuntu, the only problem is all i got is a old ubuntu live cd, and nothing more to burn on :(
[03:08] <slash0mega> is there a way to install the xubuntu iso into a partition on the hardrive and boot from there?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, so 2 ubuntus?
[03:08] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, if you only want to test try this:
[03:09] <cfhowlett> install virtualbox.  create a virtual machine.  install whatever on the machine.  fun!
[03:10] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, multiple OS's on one device are possible but very delicate.  virtualbox is *almost* idiot-proof and doesn't risk your system.
[03:10] <slash0mega> i used xubuntu in the past vie persistant usb disk, and now i am trying to install it to a old desktop,  but the old desktop dose not boot from usb :(
[03:10] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, so ... cdrom install?
[03:10] <slash0mega> no disks to burn to...
[03:11] <kryten> slash0mega: Please see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/340156/install-ubuntu-from-iso-image-directly-from-hard-disk-of-a-system-running-linux
[03:11] <cfhowlett> kryten, thanks!  (smeghead!(
[03:12] <kryten> Heh, welcome. :)
[03:14] <slash0mega> that looks like it will work, so i will give it a shot, thank you so much :D
[03:14] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, best of luck to you.
[03:15] <slash0mega> ill install ubuntu, then start trying to get the grub thing to work,
[03:16] <cfhowlett> slash0mega, this is an old box right?  xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older / lower spec devices.
[03:16] <slash0mega> yep :)
[03:55] <slash0mega> i do not have a grub.d folder
[03:58] <kryten> slash0mega: What version is your "old" Ubuntu then? (hopefully not too old)
[03:59] <slash0mega> 6.06
[03:59] <kryten> Holy crap. LOL
[03:59] <slash0mega> my unkle gave it to me, he had no idea how he got it. it was a offical install disk
[04:00] <kryten> It's from 1996... :D
[04:00] <slash0mega> HOLY CRAP
[04:00] <kryten> lol
[04:01] <Unit193> kryten: 2006.
[04:01] <kryten> Oh wait, no, it's from 2006, but still. :P
[04:01] <kryten> Yup. :D
[04:01] <slash0mega> ok,
[04:01] <slash0mega> still old, but not THAT old
[04:01] <kryten> Heh, too old though. :P
[04:01] <Unit193> Yeah, Xubuntu didn't exist back then, so yes old.
[04:02] <slash0mega> can i still add a iso to the grub menu in a less simple way?
[04:02] <kryten> Not with a Grub that old, nope.
[04:02] <slash0mega> how hard is it to update the grub?
[04:04] <kryten> Honestly, I'd rather get some CDs/DVDs to burn. :P
[04:04] <bazhang> a usb stick or a dvd
[04:05] <slash0mega> sigh, this machine is thwarting all my attemps to get it working at every turn :/ used the last of my burnable disks to try to install xp, but it would not accept my licens key, found a unburned dvd, but xubuntu on it, couldent read it because it was double layed, looked like it could read a usb stick, but couldent.... and now this, sigh
[04:05] <kryten> bazhang: USB boot doesn't work with his old machine though.
[04:05] <bazhang> kryten, there are workaround s for that
[04:06] <kryten> Yeah, I know.
[04:06] <slash0mega> oh?
[04:06] <bazhang> sounds like the easiest would be to get a friend / LUG to burn a DVD for you though
[04:06] <kryten> But those aren't simpler than just getting and burning a CD/DVD. :P
[04:06] <slash0mega> of course
[04:07] <bazhang> so look into that
[04:12] <slash0mega> can doing this ruin my flash drive?
[04:12] <slash0mega> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/booting-linux-from-usb-zip-on-older-systems/
[04:16] <Unit193> http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/ ?
[04:19] <kryten> For that, you'll have to create a Plop CD though... :P
[04:19] <slash0mega> sadly, what i am trying to do is boot without any burning at all..... i am probaly going to have too, but i will keep working on this untill i am abile to get more dvds
[04:20] <slesher> slash0mega: i missed the first part of the conversation.  do you have a flash drive that you can boot off of instead of a cd?
[04:21] <slash0mega> i do have a flash drive, but my computer can not boot from it (though apparently it can boot from a "usb-zip")
[04:21] <slesher> ahh, ok
[04:21] <slash0mega> eh, its a 4gig flash drive, easily replacable, i am going to try that portable linux artical
[04:21] <slesher> slash0mega: is there an OS on that computer right now?
[04:22] <slash0mega> a really old ubuntu
[04:22] <slesher> see if this helps
[04:22] <slesher> http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Linux-without-a-CD-or-USB-Stick-Using-UNetBootIn
[04:25] <slash0mega> that.... looks like what i need, thank you very much :D
[04:25] <slesher>  np :)
[04:39] <slash0mega> how can i open a text editorr in root? i tried to add a packaged but failed, and now i am trying to remove them
[04:40] <slesher> nano is a pretty simple command line text editor
[04:40] <slesher> # nano filename
[04:40] <slesher> or sudo nano filename
[04:42] <slash0mega> how to save changes in nano?
[04:43] <slesher> ctrl+x, it will ask you if you want to save
[04:43] <slash0mega> thank you :D
[04:43] <slesher> np
[04:45] <slash0mega> hm, 7zip is not in my software installer
[04:45] <ObrienDave> try 7z
[04:47] <slash0mega> i think mits too old :( giving me 404 when i tried to update the list
[04:47] <slash0mega> trying command line
[04:47] <ObrienDave> try changing the version from saucy to raring
[04:49] <slash0mega> what i am needing are two programs for it , mtools and p7zip-full
[04:49] <slash0mega> i was hopping sudo apt-get mtools would get it
[04:50] <ObrienDave> let me check my source list, sec
[04:53] <bazhang> !info unp
[04:53] <ubottu> unp (source: unp): unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0~pre7+nmu1 (saucy), package size 16 kB, installed size 133 kB
[04:54] <ObrienDave> synaptic properties shows: Utilities (universe)
[04:54] <ObrienDave> for 7zip
[04:54] <ObrienDave> p7zip-full
[04:56] <slash0mega> what am i doing?
[04:56] <ObrienDave> which repo is giving you the 404?
[04:58] <slash0mega> universe main and restricted i think, its giving full urls
[04:59] <slash0mega> in the url is /dist/dapper/
[04:59] <slash0mega> they look like this fully
[05:00] <slash0mega> http://archive/ubuntu/com/ubuntu/dist/dapper/universe/binary-i386/packages/gz
[05:00] <slash0mega> .gz, not /gx
[05:00] <slash0mega> gz
[05:00] <ObrienDave> dapper is no longer supported
[05:00] <slash0mega> figured
[05:01] <ObrienDave> which Xubuntu you running?
[05:01] <ObrienDave> 13.10?
[05:02] <slash0mega> latest, got the .iso last week
[05:02] <slash0mega> 12.10 sounds right
[05:02] <slash0mega> 13.10
[05:02] <ObrienDave> then, where did you get the dapper repo? that does not make sense
[05:03] <slash0mega> currently though, the computer is running a acent 6.06 ubuntu install
[05:03] <slash0mega> which i am trying to use unetbootin to fix, but it needs those two programs installed to work right
[05:05] <ObrienDave> oh, I don't think you can go from dapper to saucy. too far apart
[05:06] <ObrienDave> that's like 7 years difference. you might have to go to an older version first
[05:07] <ObrienDave> look here for later versions
[05:07] <slash0mega> a older 7zip or a older unetbootin
[05:07] <ObrienDave> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[05:07] <slash0mega> can only use the disk i have, no blank medias
[05:10] <ObrienDave> no USB stick?
[05:10] <ObrienDave> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lucid/p7zip-full/
[05:11] <ObrienDave> oldest version I can find
[05:12] <slash0mega> is arch linux a distribution?
[05:12] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:15] <slash0mega> ok, can do without the mtools then, as that is only needed for arch linux, now i just need to figur out how to get 7zip on here
[05:15] <slash0mega> found the package from the website, but it returend a error
[05:16] <ObrienDave> have you tried a dist-upgrade?
[05:16] <slash0mega> error: dependancy is not satisfiable: libc6
[05:16] <slash0mega> will that upgrade ubuntu as a whole?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, from 6.05?  unlikely
[05:17] <cfhowlett> 6.06
[05:17] <ObrienDave> was not really sure. thought it might be worth a shot ;)
[05:18] <slash0mega> sigh, might jsut have to wait till i can get some dvd... i was really hoping i could get this wokring tonight, oh well...
[05:19] <ObrienDave> how are you running the 13.10 ISO?
[05:20] <slash0mega> havent ran the iso yet. thats what i was trying to get working
[05:21] <slash0mega> using this tutoreal http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Linux-without-a-CD-or-USB-Stick-Using-UNetBootIn
[05:21] <slash0mega> but if the old ubuntu wont install 7zip, cant use that program to install xubuntu
[05:25] <ObrienDave> do you have a USB stick available?
[05:26] <slash0mega> yes, but the computer will only accept a usb-zip :( got this tutoreal but not sure if it can ruin my thmbstick
[05:26] <slash0mega> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/booting-linux-from-usb-zip-on-older-systems/
[05:29] <ObrienDave> sorry, my Xchat went wonky
[05:29] <ObrienDave> yea, I'm not liking the Zip drive kludge.
[05:30] <slash0mega> tis ok
[05:30] <ObrienDave> I would suggest buying a 8GB USB stick. less than 10 bucks at walmart
[05:31] <slash0mega> how would i use the stick? wont accept normal usb
[05:32] <ObrienDave> oh dang, yea sorry. still tired from work
[05:32] <slash0mega> i will probaly have to buy some burnable dvds
[05:32] <ObrienDave> yea, get the RWs. I've used the same one for 2 or 3 years ;)
[05:35] <slash0mega> oh? defenetly getting one of those then
[05:36] <ObrienDave> check your burner specs. make sure you get either +RW or -RW depending on the specs
[05:36] <ObrienDave> some burners support both formats. not all do
[05:37] <slash0mega> no label on my laptop :/ but it is pretty new
[05:37] <slash0mega> what about reading?
[05:37] <slash0mega> i had a double layer dvd, and it failed to work in it
[05:38] <ObrienDave> depends on the drive specs. you will have to look them up
[05:38] <slash0mega> burning worked, but not playback on the computer i am trying to install too
[05:38] <ObrienDave> you need the reader's specs
[05:39] <slash0mega> well, its late. goodnight, and thanks for all the help
[05:40] <ObrienDave> better yet, look at BOTH drives specs. buy the disks that match both drives
[05:40] <ObrienDave> No prob. good night
[06:16] <galvanize> anyone upgraded Chromium to version 30 recently?
[06:17] <galvanize> a mysterious line appears at the top
[06:18] <galvanize> 1 pixel height. which is a menu bar without text
[06:18] <ObrienDave> uses Google Chrome
[06:19] <galvanize> ObrienDave: which version?
[06:20] <ObrienDave> 30.0.1599.114
[06:21] <galvanize> ObrienDave: what happens when you click top left pixel in the maximized Chrome window?
[06:22] <ObrienDave> umm, nothing
[06:22] <galvanize> weird. it's chromium specific bug then
[06:23] <galvanize> mine triggers the "File" menu
[06:23] <ObrienDave> sorry, I do get some kind of window menu. max, min, close, etc.
[06:24] <ObrienDave> it's the same menu clicking on the chrome icon
[06:27] <galvanize> ObrienDave: could you move the mouse horizontally after clicking there?
[06:27] <ObrienDave> yea sure
[06:30] <user> hi all. is there any way to prevent (as administrator super-user) all other users to delete chrome's history and prevent them to manage the deleting history chrome's option?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> user, I saw something like this the other day.  The sysadmin had removed the "delete history" option from the browswer.  so probably a browser specific setting
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[06:39] <akis63> fhowlett: so, what do i have to do? remove what?
[06:40] <cfhowlett> akis63, if it's a browser setting, you're going to have to check there.  Chromium is a google product, so ask google.
[06:43] <akis63> cfhowlett: chrome offers the option to any user to delete history and its contents. there is the possibility to disable this option, but any user can enable it again using his account. my question is if the admin can disable this option with a command or any otehr action using the privileges of admin.
[06:43] <cfhowlett> I know. I am not a chrome developer.  This is not chrome support.  Ask google.  They'll know how.
[06:44] <akis63> i mean if there a way for admin to stop users managing their chrome browser
[06:44] <cfhowlett> *yes it can be done.  NO I don't know how*
[06:45] <qwerty__> what all is needed for the sound to work in xfce4?
[06:45] <ObrienDave> try xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:46] <ObrienDave> contains codecs, etc.
[06:47] <qwerty__> i have an ac97 sound card i think
[06:47] <ObrienDave> not sure about that card
[06:47] <cfhowlett> qwerty__, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:48] <well_laid_lawn> qwerty__:  I'd start by opening alsamixer in a terminal and unmuting everything and turning everything up
[06:48] <qwerty__> http://paste.debian.net/64041/
[06:49] <leif_> greetings
[06:49] <qwerty__> how do i open alsamixer in a terminal?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> leif_, greetings
[06:49] <leif_> :)
[06:50] <leif_> how does xubuntu dif from ubuntu gnome
[06:50] <well_laid_lawn> qwerty__:  in a terminal type   alsamixer   and hit enter
[06:50] <qwerty__> ok thats what i thought, its not there
[06:50] <well_laid_lawn> !info alsa-utils
[06:50] <ubottu> alsa-utils (source: alsa-utils): Utilities for configuring and using ALSA. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.27.1-1ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 1087 kB, installed size 2048 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[06:51] <well_laid_lawn> qwerty__:  looks like you'll have to install alsa-utils
[06:51] <qwerty__> it says alsa-utils is the newest version but i cant run alsamixer
[06:52] <well_laid_lawn> what happens when you try ?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> leif_, essentially gnome = ubuntu with gnome desktop, xubuntu = xfce4 desktop.  beyond that, xubuntu is loads lighter on your system
[06:52] <leif_> ok
[06:53] <leif_> maybe a day i can help whit dev of xubuntu
[06:53] <cfhowlett> leif_, lubuntu / xubuntu are optimized for older/slower machines
[06:53] <leif_> ok
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !contribute
[06:53] <ubottu> To see how you can help out with Xubuntu, please see http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[06:53] <leif_> cool
[06:53] <qwerty__> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[06:53] <leif_> thanks
[06:54] <well_laid_lawn> qwerty__:  sounds like there isn't a kernel module being loaded for the sound card
[06:54] <well_laid_lawn> try   lsmod | grep snd
[06:55] <qwerty__> http://paste.debian.net/64043/
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> looks like there's enough modules there
[06:57] <qwerty__> thats what i thought haha
[06:57] <qwerty__> i messed around with my window manager and display manager quite a bit if that matters
[06:57] <well_laid_lawn> shouldn't
[06:58] <well_laid_lawn> try    lspci | grep -i audio   to get the audio card
[06:58] <well_laid_lawn> and we'll see if there's any known issues with it
[06:59] <qwerty__> http://paste.debian.net/64044/
[06:59] <ObrienDave> can't understand why alsamixer wont run for you
[07:01] <qwerty__> im using openbox if that matters
[07:01] <qwerty__> with xfce4 panel
[07:04] <akis63> does 'Activities and Privacy Manager Tool' actually record any URL visited?
[07:07] <well_laid_lawn> qwerty__:  the one issue I found on the net about that card had removing pulseaudio as the solution
[07:08] <qwerty__> ill give it a go
[07:11] <qwerty__> i removed it, should i reboot now?
[07:12] <well_laid_lawn> I would just to make sure
[07:12] <qwerty__> ok ill be back
[07:12] <Hempathy> Hi guys, n00b to Xu... where do I find synaptic?
[07:12] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:12] <ObrienDave> terminal
[07:13] <Hempathy> already installed man
[07:13] <Hempathy> where do I pull in=t from the gui?
[07:13] <ObrienDave> system menu
[07:14] <Hempathy> doh! swear it wasn;t there the last 5 times I looked
[07:16] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio
[07:16] <Hempathy> haha just checking
[07:16] <Hempathy> I already have the bits of the studio installed that I use
[07:16] <Hempathy> is the desktop worthwhile?
[07:17] <ObrienDave> it will kill XFCE. You just need the studio packages
[07:18] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, XFCE is the desktop environment - you already have tit
[07:18] <cfhowlett> *IT*
[07:18] <cfhowlett> sorry.  tourette's
[07:18] <ObrienDave> typos, gotta love them ;)
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[07:19] <qwerty__> ok with pulseaudio removed
[07:19] <ObrienDave> sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[07:20] <qwerty__> well_laid_lawn: im back
[07:21] <Hempathy> churs man, already have those
[07:21] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, as I said, US is not the plug-ins, it's the apps.
[07:21] <ObrienDave> qwerty__ sound working now?
[07:22] <qwerty__> when i click on the xfce-mixer plugin it says  Gstreamer was unable to detect any sound devices ....
[07:23] <ObrienDave> install gstreamer ugly plugins
[07:24] <ObrienDave> might as well do the good and bad plugins as well. can't hurt
[07:24] <Hempathy> cfhowlett, coolio, I have the audio too
[07:24] <cfhowlett> hemphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu%20Studio%20Upgrade%20from%20Ubuntu
[07:24] <Hempathy> & I have no need for video,
[07:25] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, sudo apt-get install audio meta-package      would pull only those
[07:25] <ObrienDave> you can always install that package later if need be
[07:25] <cfhowlett> but I'd go for the desktop meta as well to get the menu integrations
[07:26] <cfhowlett> and change to the US theme for full effect
[07:31] <Shirakawasuna> does anyone know how to disable thunderbird's taskbar entry flashing when new mail is received? I recently cleaned out ~/.config and am not sure what would have done it
[08:39] <_william_> salut
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[16:42] <brauleinchen> could not apply changes, fix broken packages first, that is when I try to install vlc from the repo: xubuntu 13.10 64 bits, recently upgraded
[16:42] <brauleinchen> what do I do?
[16:54] <GridCube> do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq package name
[16:54] <GridCube> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947124
[17:49] <xubuntu789> i'm new to xubuntu. i have it installed on my laptop and want to access my nas, but i'm not sure how to do that?
[17:50] <slesher> xubuntu789: if you open file manager and click on Browse Network at the bottom, does it show up automatically?
[17:52] <xubuntu789> nope, it's not there.
[17:57] <xubuntu789> found it
[17:58] <xubuntu789> user error :)
[17:59] <xubuntu218> ?upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10, now get gray screen + mouse (cant do anything). what to do?
[19:00] <toumbo> Hi to all! I want to make some of hardware keys of my keyboard to work. fujitsu SK-2500-2D
[19:00] <toumbo> however I don't now how to do it :(
[19:01] <toumbo> In gnome and kde works though
[19:02] <toumbo> the keys are: play, stop, pause
[19:03] <toumbo> rewind and fast forward
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[20:12] <ThomasD_> Hallo, ist hier jemand, der mir bei der installtion von xubuntu helfen kann?
[20:13] <ThomasD_> Is ther somebody who can help me?
[20:14] <bekks> ThomasD_: Start asking a question about your real problem doing so then :)
[20:15] <ThomasD_> i want to install xubuntu, but the setup stops at the point of formatting the hd
[20:15] <bekks> So which settings did you choose?
[20:16] <bekks> And which version of xubuntu are you using?
[20:16] <ThomasD_> ive tryed v13.10 and 12.04
[20:18] <ThomasD_> now i'm running the system without the hd in live mode
[20:18] <ThomasD_> this seems to be ok
[20:18] <ThomasD_> but if i put the hd into the laptop an boot with it, then i got also some errors
[20:19] <elfy> ThomasD_: what people need to know - is what type of formatting did you choose and what sort of errors do you get
[20:19] <elfy> try and be specific - we see all sorts of issues :)
[20:20] <Poisoned_Dragon> Makes me wonder if the hdd is flaky
[20:22] <ThomasD_> at first i have create a new partition table. Then i create 4 partitions. 1. /boot ext2  2. /swap swap 3. / ext4  4. /home ext4
[20:22] <bekks> ThomasD_: Which partition types? primary/extended?
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[20:24] <ThomasD_> 1. is primary and 2. - 4. logical
[20:25] <bekks> ThomasD_: Thats impossible.
[20:26] <bekks> ThomasD_: logical partitions can be created in an extended partition only. So whats your real partition layout please?
[20:29] <ThomasD_> i've followed the instructions on this site (right row): http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Manuelle_Partitionierung#Neue-Partitionstabelle-erstellen
[20:34] <ThomasD_> i take a photo of the screen and upload it. Please wait, because i have to reboot the system.
[21:04] <ThomasD_> I'm back. Here are the photos of my installation screen: http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/2tlynq6icbv9syxpheqft6w55du8o0dq/
[21:08] <ThomasD_> Are these the correct settings?
[21:10] <TheSheep> ThomasD_: looks good, I would make the swap at least as big as your whole ram, so that you can hibernate though
[21:11] <ThomasD_> i got 512 mb ram.
[21:11] <TheSheep> oh
[21:11] <ThomasD_> i think 1024 its enough
[21:11] <TheSheep> it looks good then
[21:12] <ThomasD_> its a very old notebook
[21:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> can't be as old as my eeepc 701, or this Gateway 450sx4 I'm using right now.
[21:12] <TheSheep> I have a 386 here somewhere...
[21:13] <ThomasD_> after clicking install i got the screen to select my time zone, but after that the installation stucks
[21:13] <TheSheep> ThomasD_: anything in the console?
[21:13] <TheSheep> ThomasD_: you can switch to text console with alt+ctrl+f1, f2, etc.
[21:14] <TheSheep> alt + ctrl + f7 goes back to the graphical environment
[21:14] <ThomasD_> i have to try.
[21:14] <TheSheep> by the way, formatting can take a while
[21:15] <ThomasD_> but i should see the blinking of the hd led, or?
[21:15] <TheSheep> yeah, probably
[21:16] <TheSheep> there should be a log file there too
[21:16] <ThomasD_> because the system do nothing.
[21:16] <TheSheep> which has detailed information
[21:16] <TheSheep> ubiquity.log or something like that
[21:19] <ThomasD_> i got also problems to get into the live mode
[21:20] <TheSheep> any error messages?
[21:20] <ThomasD_> not on screen
[21:21] <ThomasD_> maybe in log files, but i don't reach the point to open this files
[21:21] <TheSheep> you could experiment with some kernel boot options, maybe
[21:21] <TheSheep> !boot
[21:21] <ubottu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[21:21] <ThomasD_> could it be that my hd is damaged?
[21:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> I did suggest that earlier
[21:22] <TheSheep> It could be anything, from faulty hardware, through non-standard or badly supported hardware, to just simply a bug in ubuntu itself
[21:22] <TheSheep> it's hard to say without any hints
[21:23] <TheSheep> if it's badly supported hardware or a bug, there may be a workaround
[21:23] <ThomasD_> ok, i will try to start with other boot options and open some log files
[21:23] <TheSheep> ThomasD_: did you try googling for "ubuntu" and your laptop's make and model?
[21:24] <TheSheep> ThomasD_: or searching the forums? often there are people who had similar problems but found a solution
[21:25] <ThomasD_> i have searched for it on google
[21:25] <ThomasD_> but that are older versions
[21:26] <ThomasD_> for a long time i had installed ubuntu 8 on this noteboot and there were no problems
[21:28] <ThomasD_> now i've tried to get into the console while the installation stucks. But the system don't react.
[21:29] <ThomasD_> the problem is bigger and i will use a forum to get some help. Thanks all for your help. Bye
[22:22] <roninn> next debian will be with xfce4?
[22:23] <bekks> roninn: Doesnt matter in here.
[22:32] <teratoma> im running latest xubuntu, on thinkpad x201 with Intel 6200 AGN wireless using iwlwifi driver.  wireless works after boot.  wireless stops working after suspend.  what do i do?
[22:39] <brainwash> teratoma: that's most likely bug 1184262
[22:39] <ubottu> bug 1184262 in systemd-shim (Ubuntu Trusty) "[logind] times out too early, stuck in PrepareForSleep, causing network and other services to not resume" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1184262
[22:40] <teratoma> i will try  like it says
[22:40] <teratoma> nmcli nm sleep false
[22:41] <brainwash> please read comment #73
[22:42] <brainwash> for a proper fix
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