[00:25] <netrunner_> Thank you, i have problems with my kernel
[00:25] <netrunner_> can you help me?
[00:27] <valorie> netrunner_: how about telling us what is going wrong?
[00:46] <netrunner__> http://imagebin.org/275897
[00:47] <netrunner__> i can not boot to desktop it stuck at this screen
[00:47] <netrunner__> i can only see this screen if i press Ctrl + F7
[00:50] <netrunner__> any idea?
[00:51] <netrunner__> http://imagebin.org/275900
[00:52] <netrunner__> the kernel 3.2.0-52-generic-pae kernel works - but not the newer ones :-(
[00:52] <netrunner__> who writes the kernels?
[00:54] <valorie> netrunner__: it asks about dmseg
[00:54] <valorie> I mean dmsg -- did you try that?
[00:55] <valorie> the kernel team writes the kernels, but there is a channel for the Ubuntu kernel devels: #ubuntu-kernel
[00:55] <valorie> very helpful people
[00:56] <netrunner__> didnt try dmsg?
[00:56] <valorie> try that in a console and see what the output is
[00:56] <netrunner__> do i just have to write this in the terminal?
[00:56] <valorie> you'll need that to talk to the devels anyway
[00:57] <valorie> yes, as your error message says
[00:58] <netrunner__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367837/
[00:58] <netrunner__> thats the output
[00:58] <valorie> I'm sorry, my spelling was wrong
[00:59] <valorie> it is dmesg
[00:59] <valorie> just as your first paste showed
[01:00] <netrunner__> huh
[01:00] <netrunner__> the output is longer than my terminal can show
[01:00] <netrunner__> can i look back further in the terminal?
[01:02] <valorie> the most recent will be what is interesting, I assume
[01:03] <valorie> try man dmesg for more information, in another console
[01:03] <netrunner__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367846/
[01:03] <netrunner__> jep one moment
[01:05] <valorie> I am unqualified to comment on this, but the devels in #ubuntu-kernel might be helpful to you
[01:05]  * valorie goes to dinner; wishes netrunner__ the best of luck
[01:06] <netrunner__> ok, i will go there
[01:07] <netrunner__> thanks a lot! :-)
[01:07] <netrunner__> this is why i like linux so much
[04:23] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:31] <zztopless> hi
[05:31] <zztopless> I hope every love's helping stupid newbs....
[05:37] <zztopless> I had been ploying around with several files in order to see the console during boot and to end the boot phase in the console, without lightdm starting (was having issues with .Xauthority, as well as the issues that can come up when installing Nvidia drivers (including trying to get the Cuda Toolkit installed).  Anyway, it seemed to be working, I would see the console, had worked out where
[05:37] <zztopless> some issues were, but I wanted to test the boot phase wuth the normal splash screen, so I (thought I) correctly commented out changes I had made and uncommented out other lines I had replaced.
[05:38] <zztopless> Long story short, the caps lock, num lock and scroll lock lights are flashing in sync once it gets past the grub2 screen and the monitors freeze
[05:39] <zztopless> I can boot into windows without an issue on a different disk (and access the files on the ext4 Kubuntu system disk with Paragon extfs
[05:41] <zztopless> any advice would be greatly appreciated, have spent quite a bit of time setting up this particular install.  Although a bit flakey, I can use Paragon to edit files, but am setting up a kb vm to be safe.
[05:42] <zztopless> I have copied the /log directory if that helps, just struggling to make sense of what I'm looking at
[07:07] <excognac> hi all
[07:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:47] <eagles0513875> hey guys does anyone else here have an elantech track pad on their laptop?
[09:23] <Wizard> eagles0513875: What's wrong with your trackpad?
[09:27] <eagles0513875> Wizard: its basically disabled and it seems like the system sees it but doesnt work
[09:29] <Wizard> What does xinput say about it?
[09:31] <jussi> eagles0513875: system settings/input devices/touchpad? also, do you have a touchpad disable keyboard combo on you laptop?
[09:32] <eagles0513875> jussi: i have looked there in system settings and it seems like there is no way to turn it on from there. i do have a keyboard combo and when i press it nothing seems to happen
[09:33] <eagles0513875> its like the track pad is permanently disabled
[09:33] <jussi> eagles0513875: do you have an alternative OS still installed?
[09:33] <eagles0513875> jussi: no i do not sadly :(
[09:33] <eagles0513875> this was a fresh install of 13.10
[09:33] <valorie> is synaptiks installed, eagles0513875?
[09:33] <jussi> eagles0513875: it may be that it was turned off in the alt os and so therefore it now stays off
[09:34] <eagles0513875> !synaptiks
[09:34] <eagles0513875> [10:34:26] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synaptiks O_o it seems like synaptiks doesnt even exist
[09:34] <eagles0513875> ahh wait name changed
[09:35] <eagles0513875> valorie: its already installed
[09:35] <valorie> cool
[09:36] <valorie> name changed?
[09:36] <valorie> what's is called now?
[09:36] <eagles0513875> valorie: kde-config-touchpad - touchpad configuration tool (synaptiks)
[09:37] <valorie> ah, ok
[09:38] <valorie> I guess that's a better name
[09:38] <valorie> I dislike all the cute code names
[09:38] <eagles0513875> dont blame you. but still not working
[09:38] <valorie> Synaptiks always sounded like a 'cool jazz' band
[09:41] <jussi> valorie: synaptiks was pretty descriptive, given it was designed for synaptiks branded touchpads...
[09:42] <brake4711> hallo und guten Morgen
[09:42] <valorie> jussi: ah, I've never heard of them
[09:43] <lordievader> !de | brake4711
[09:43] <lordievader> eagles0513875: Does it work in a live-cd?
[09:43] <brake4711> thank you
[09:43] <eagles0513875> will try that next lordievader
[09:48] <Wizard> There is no Swiss channel?! :O
[09:50] <eagles0513875> !ch
[09:50] <eagles0513875> Wizard: ^ :p
[09:53] <Wizard> What about retoroman or how is this language caled? :P
[09:53] <Wizard> Discrimination! Not acceptable in EU.
[09:54] <lordievader> Wizard: You can start a ##kubuntu-ch channel ;)
[09:55] <Wizard> Hell no, I'm satisfied with trolls on -pl ;)
[10:22] <alvin> Am I the only one not liking the simplified UI of NetworkManager? Is there a way to get the old one back?
[10:25] <Wizard> alvin: You're not alone.
[10:26] <alvin> That's a relief :-)
[10:26] <alvin> I wonder if this is an upstream change, or just Kubuntu-only
[10:27] <valorie> upstream
[10:27] <valorie> it really is less buggy
[10:28] <alvin> I can believe that. It's just the looks
[10:29] <alvin> Well, actually the way you have to click more to get all settings.
[10:29] <jussi> alvin: I am with you on this. the other one was much better looking and nicer to use IMHO
[10:38] <kakakal> hello everyone, i am using UBuntu 12.04 LTS kernel 3.2 .0.52 and i installed KDE environment in it, KDE is very good in looks and i like it, but i am having two problems with it, 1. Fucntion keys are working very well when i login to UbUNTU ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEy are not working when i log back into KDE session, so this is the problem with KDE not with kernel. 2. HIbernations is not working, i enabled hibernation in Ubuntu and when i click to hibernate i just 
[10:39] <excognac> kakakal: funciton keys maybe different?
[10:39] <kakakal> excognac: volume keys are not working with KDE, while they are working in GNOMe,
[10:40] <kakakal> excognac: same hardware, just logging out and changing sesssion
[10:41] <excognac> btw is that normal in 13.10 kubuntu that at login screen I can't witch between environments. only kde plasma workspace is offered, if i click that it will become bold, is that the failsafe one?
[10:41] <excognac> kakakal: same with reboot?
[10:41] <kakakal> no, reboot is working fine
[10:41] <kakakal> shut down, lock, sleep to ram, all are working fine
[10:42] <kakakal> only hibernation is not working
[10:44] <lordievader> kakakal: Have you defined your fn keys in System Settings -> Shortcuts and Gestures. Might be that it simply uses a different keyboard shortcut for those actions.
[10:46] <excognac> lordievader: I forgot ? mark. what about 13.10 changeing session?
[10:47] <lordievader> excognac: What?
[10:48] <excognac> lordievader: at login screen under the password field I can't really change type of session. Why is that?
[10:49] <excognac> e.g. failsafe environment
[10:49] <lordievader> excognac: Can you send a screenshot?
[10:49] <lordievader> !paste
[10:50] <excognac> lordievader: not sure, i'll try
[10:53] <excognac> lordievader: i failed to make screenshot :(
[10:54] <lordievader> excognac: Make a picture ;)
[10:55] <excognac> lordievader: you want me to draw it lol?
[10:59] <excognac> why logout and and shutr down takes longer in 13.10 comparing to 12.04?
[11:03] <kakakal> hello everyone, i am using UBuntu 12.04 LTS kernel 3.2 .0.52 and i installed KDE environment in it, KDE is very good in looks and i like it, but i am having two problems with it, 1. Fucntion keys are working very well when i login to UbUNTU ENVIRONMENT, BUT THEy are not working when i log back into KDE session, so this is the problem with KDE not with kernel. 2. HIbernations is not working, i enabled hibernation in Ubuntu and when i click to hibernate i just 
[11:04] <kakakal> lordievader: let me check
[11:06] <kakakal> lordievader: i didn't find any shortcut for volume up
[11:06] <kakakal> or brightness
[11:09] <lordievader> kakakal: Global Shortcuts -> Kmix for the volume.
[11:09] <kakakal> there is no kmix
[11:09] <lordievader> kakakal: And Global Shortcuts -> KDE Daemon for the brightness.
[11:10] <excognac> also why LibreOffice docs are not opened upon Restore session and their window sizes' and apperance on virtual desktops are totally forgotten?
[11:10] <lordievader> excognac: Restore session as in after a reboot?
[11:11] <kakakal> lordievader: no kmix in drop down, kde daemon is there, but no kmix
[11:11] <excognac> lordievader: reboot, shutdown, logout/in all the same result
[11:11] <lordievader> kakakal: No kmix, hmm that is odd.
[11:11] <lordievader> excognac: Libre Office probably doesn't support it.
[11:12] <kakakal> yes vermix is there, in plasma desktop shell
[11:13] <lordievader> kakakal: Kmix was used in Precise I thought. How did you install kde? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:13] <kakakal> yes
[11:15] <kakakal> there is no shortcut assigned to volume down, and when i tried to assign my function keys with addition of function, it says, it is already assigned and name appear here as wakeup key
[11:18] <kakakal> lordievader: help me to enable hibernation, because it is more necessary, i can volume down using GUI but hibernation is more important
[11:18] <kakakal> hibernation is not working on KDE
[11:19] <kakakal> while it is working on GNOME login
[11:19] <lordievader> kakakal: Does it work when you issue "sudo pm-hibernate" through a terminal?
[11:20] <kakakal> lordievader: no, i never tried it, let me try that, i will come here again, if successfully  hibernated, otherwise tell you the results instantly
[11:28] <kakakal> lordievader: it didn't worked
[11:42] <collinaspire> Hello?
[11:43] <collinaspire> When my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS boots it flashes a static strip, and always says "System Error"
[11:58] <Wizard> eagles0513875: you still there?
[11:58] <Wizard> I had to abandon irc just after asking about your trachpad :P
[11:58] <Wizard> Sorry.
[12:33] <eldiabologr> hi
[12:34] <eldiabologr> any idea how to fix the cpu scalling "performance/powersave" only option with this kernel as with my current 3.11.0-12 (kubuntu 13.10) i got "conservative/ondemand" also?got a celeron g1610/h68 mobo....ty.
[12:34] <eldiabologr> kernel 3.12 i ment
[12:34] <Wizard> Hmm, old issues with "too slow reaction" or something like that?
[12:35] <eldiabologr> you mean?
[12:37] <Wizard> You mentioned that your cpu scaling is broken. Didn't mention *how* it is broken.
[12:41] <eldiabologr> oh...yesterday i installed kernel 3.12 and the only options i had on my cpufreq indicator was powersave/performance since with default kernel i have all the 4 options this problem happens if i remember correct since kernel 3.11.6 and then....hope it helps
[12:41] <eldiabologr> apologize for bad english too...ty
[12:46] <Wizard> Well, custom kernels are definitely not supported :P But since I'm bored at work, check your kernel config. Did you select ondemand anc conservative? Are they built in or just modules?
[12:50] <eldiabologr> dammmn...need to get wife to work....hope ill find you back wizard....thx for helping tho
[12:51] <Wizard> "Get wife to work"LOL
[12:53] <Wizard> Sounds like "where's my whip?! Oh, there is it.. Get to work, b****!" :D
[12:53]  * Wizard ruuuuuuuuns.
[12:53] <eldiabologr> ok ok ....to go wife to work :p
[12:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:15] <eagles0513875> Wizard: im back
[13:16] <eldiabologr> back
[13:26] <Wizard> Everybody's back!
[13:30] <Wizard> eldiabologr: So, answering my question?
[13:30] <Wizard> eagles0513875: Any success with this trackpad?
[13:31] <eagles0513875> Wizard: nope :(
[13:31] <eagles0513875> !ch | Wizard
[13:31] <eagles0513875> thats from earlier :p
[13:32] <Wizard> Meh. Just quit it :P
[13:32] <eldiabologr> wizard im trying to find an answer to your quesion above....not expert with linux sorry :(
[13:32] <Wizard> So how did you install this custom kernel?
[13:33] <eldiabologr> upubuntu.com site
[13:33] <Wizard> And what where the reasons for kernel upgrade?
[13:35] <eldiabologr> well....nothing special....by trying things you learn more....also like to have my pc uptodate
[13:35] <Wizard> Because if it was "just curiosity" than "just don't" :P
[13:36] <eldiabologr> newbie question....then why linux upgrade kernel so often if you cant use em with your distro?
[13:36] <Wizard> You'll better learn by building kernel yourself, but this knowlege isn't very helpful, tbh.
[13:37] <Wizard> If you want to learn Linux, learn things like system administration and so.
[13:37] <Wizard> Besides, best way to keep system up to day is using official repos.
[13:39] <eldiabologr> y i think ill stay back to default kernel....thx duse
[13:39] <eldiabologr> *dude
[13:39] <Wizard> No big deal :)
[13:40] <Wizard> The fact is that kernel is like car's engine and so.. You start playing with it - expect troubles ;P
[13:41] <Wizard> Or, use ancient learning by breaking technique ;)
[13:42] <Wizard> In that way, try to fix your kernel yourself, otherwise you won't learn much :>
[13:42] <eldiabologr> hehe....got 4 pcs here running ubuntu* distros just perfect.....so perfect that im damm boring:p
[13:42] <Wizard> "Bored" rather ;P
[13:42] <Wizard> Well, kubuntu.org holds "get involved" link.
[13:43] <Wizard> And I belive, the best way unexperienced users may help is providing translations.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> that's why I run a dev OS, to keep things interesting
[13:43] <Wizard> Oh, that is a nice suggestion too.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> i have the latest stable release on another partition of course
[13:44] <Wizard> Upgrade one box to dev version (trusty, currently) and report bugs, provide feedback and so.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> yup
[13:45] <Wizard> You will learn sys internals quickly (even from hints from devs like where to get more info from and so), other will gain better os.
[13:45] <eldiabologr> y i wonna start learning reporting bugs
[13:45] <BluesKaj> and to avoid grub probs I put an old HDD in use for the W7 install
[13:46] <Wizard> Ok, time for my question. Do you know/use any GUI app for DLNA streaming?
[13:48] <Wizard> Shit :>
[13:48] <Wizard> Like allways.
[13:48] <Wizard> Seems minidlna is the only working app ;D
[13:50] <eldiabologr> not using dlna sorry
[13:52] <jussi> Wizard: server or client? ie. the one which sends the media or the one which receives?
[13:53]  * jussi slaps Wizard's hand for swearing :P
[13:53] <eagles0513875> Wizard: i 2nd what you said about the kernel but also if you know how to determine what you need you could probably really make a lightweight kernel
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Wizard. yeah , http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=151019
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Wizard. what about XBMC?
[13:54] <Wizard> Well.. it sucks :D
[13:55] <Wizard> jussi: Server.
[13:55] <ikonia> Wizard: considered using myth ?
[13:55] <ikonia> Wizard: you dont need "everything" from myth,
[13:55] <Wizard> BluesKaj: Thanks for that link!
[13:55] <BluesKaj> heh, I tried it , but it's like a windows media app, triedstake over your pc
[13:55] <Wizard> ikonia: Never tried it.
[13:56] <Wizard> BluesKaj: Myth or xbmc?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> tries to
[13:56] <ikonia> Wizard: it's a beast with a LOT of features, but with a bit of thought, you can just take the parts you want
[13:56] <BluesKaj> xbmc
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Wizard. ^
[13:56] <eldiabologr> xbmc too
[13:56] <eldiabologr> tones of addons
[13:57] <Wizard> Hmm.. All I actually need is streaming video and subtitles to TV :)
[13:57] <BluesKaj> I don't need dnla , my pc is our media server , connected directly to the TV and audio system
[13:57] <BluesKaj> or dlna
[13:58] <jussi> Wizard: vlc?
[13:58] <Wizard> VLC can stream?
[13:58] <jussi> yep
[13:58] <Wizard> Last I checked it couldn't.
[13:58] <Wizard> Vanilla VLC from ubu repos?
[13:58] <Wizard> How cool :)
[13:58] <Wizard> I'll check it out at home.
[13:58] <jussi> Wizard: media -> stream
[13:58] <BluesKaj> it's abit of clunky setup for streaming on vlc , not comprehensive '
[13:58] <Wizard> jussi: With subtitles?
[13:59] <jussi> Wizard: unsure about that
[13:59] <Wizard> I'll check.
[14:00] <jussi> I think theres a nice addon/fork for net streaming to vlc called Acestream. you can stream to the net from it p2p like
[14:00] <jussi> over and above what you need, but still
[14:19] <dillono> wow, so many people.
[14:20] <BluesKaj> Wizard. I think this site gives a better explanation and instructions on minidlna, http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Set-up-a-DLNA-Server-in-a-Minute
[14:33] <Wizard> BluesKaj: Well, I use minidlna daily. It just isn't very handy, as a deamon.
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Wizard. i see , that's too bad
[14:36] <Wizard> I asked about a tool, since as a unix geek I like "one tool which does one thingand does it good" :P
[15:01] <dillono> omg
[15:01] <lordievader> ?
[15:02] <dillono> stood for 20 minutes and noone is talking
[15:02] <lordievader> Lovely isn't it :)
[15:02] <lordievader> One of the reason I prefer #kubuntu over #ubuntu.
[15:03] <Erthe> Has anyone been able to get an iPod working with Amarok?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> dillono. , this isn't a chit chat room , it's kubuntu support , do you have a question about kubuntu ?
[15:03] <lordievader> BluesKaj: He's gone already...
[15:04] <BluesKaj> oh
[15:04] <Wizard> fail :>
[15:04] <BluesKaj> not anymore :)
[15:04]  * Wizard fail
[15:04] <BluesKaj> dillono. , this isn't a chit chat room , it's kubuntu support , do you have a question about kubuntu ?
[15:04] <Wizard> dillono: We were waiting till you quit ;)
[15:04]  * Wizard hides.
[15:05] <Wizard> dilfridge: If you need chit chat, #kubuntu-offtopic is for you.
[15:06] <Wizard> Not much going on there today, but still..
[15:06] <Erthe> When I plug in my iPod to my PC Amarok says it failed to connect
[15:06] <Erthe> Any ideas as to why?
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Erthe. have you checked amarok >settings>configure amarok>plugins>upnp collection
[15:16] <Erthe> Lemme see, one sec
[15:17] <Erthe> I hadn't, no, checked now.  Think that'll do the trick?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> dunno , but it seems logical :)
[15:17] <Erthe> OK, lemme see what happens..
[15:24] <Erthe> Well, it didn't complain this time; on the other hand, nothing at all happened.
[15:24]  * Erthe sighs
[15:33] <lordievader> Erthe: I thought you needed some lib package. I have done this once, but that is long ago. Not sure if that lib still applies.
[15:33] <lordievader> Erthe: libimobiledevice4 was that lab.
[15:34] <lordievader> Erthe: Let me see if I can get my ipad to work.
[15:40] <Erthe> 12.04 has libmobiledevice2 out of the box
[15:40] <Erthe> I need a ppa
[15:41] <lordievader> Erthe: Not sure if the version matters...
[15:41] <Erthe> libmobiledevice2 is installed
[15:42] <Erthe> It could matter depending on the vesrion of iOS
[15:43] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  I'm trying out kubuntu.  I'm wondering if there is a good mysql gui client
[15:43] <josePHPagoda> anyone found one that they like?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !mysql
[15:57] <lordievader> Erthe: Ugh what a mess. My ipad needs to trust the computer but when I press "thrust" the dialog would come back a few seconds later. I'm afraid I cannot help you :(
[16:04] <josePHPagoda> BluesKaj: unfortunately, that isn't all that helpful.
[16:04] <lordievader> josePHPagoda: I like phpmyadmin, it is in the repo.
[16:05] <josePHPagoda> lordievader: i've used phpmyadmin, unfortunately, that isn't the best for connecting to a large database, since you are limited by the webserver.
[16:06] <josePHPagoda> (importing multiple GB worth of data is problematic on phpmyadmin)
[16:06] <josePHPagoda> so I was hoping for something similar to heidisql on windows
[16:06] <josePHPagoda> which does work under WINE, but I want to use native apps when possible.
[16:08] <lordievader> josePHPagoda: Perhaps you are better of in #ubuntu-server.
[16:08] <josePHPagoda> I'll drop by there, but I think their focus is the server aspect.
[16:09] <lordievader> josePHPagoda: True but the ppl there might know better than us desktop folk ;)
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> :)
[16:09] <josePHPagoda> the community rocks everywhere to be honest :)
[16:10] <BluesKaj> is there no mysql linux chat , one would think there is one
[16:10] <rebeliantau> witam witam. mam problem z rythmboxem... czy ktoś pomoze? :D
[16:11] <lordievader> Jup there is ##mysql, josePHPagoda, BluesKaj.
[16:12] <rebeliantau> hi. do smbd speak english?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> rebeliantau. is that supposed to be English?
[16:12] <rebeliantau> it should be
[16:12] <rebeliantau>  :>
[16:12] <josePHPagoda> lordievader: that's just mysql general chat, not linux specific
[16:12] <BluesKaj> we don't use short texting lingo here
[16:12] <rebeliantau> ohhh. ok..
[16:13] <rebeliantau> i didn`t know
[16:13] <rebeliantau> :)
[16:13] <rebeliantau> i just want to ask about something... but it is wrong room I guess :)
[16:14] <BluesKaj> rebeliantau. ask about kubuntu , go ahead
[16:15] <rebeliantau> hmm... a was thinking about rythmbox... it is a software of kubuntu :) is it ok?
[16:16] <BluesKaj> rebeliantau. ask in #ubuntu
[16:35] <baxeico_> hi guys, anyone using Kubuntu 12.04 with KDE SC 4.11.2 (backports ppa) is affected by this bug? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327228
[16:38] <dillono> no, I dont have it
[16:40] <baxeico_> dillono: you are not affected by the bug?
[16:41] <dillono> what bug?
[16:41] <baxeico_> sorry, I misundertood your answer, maybe was not directed to me
[16:42] <dillono> it wasn't
[16:42] <baxeico_> ok :)
[16:42] <dillono> sry
[16:44] <dillono> I do have the bug if I reporduce the problem.
[16:44] <dillono> reproduce*
[16:58] <bukai> Hi, i want to contribute to open source software but i am not sure how to proceed. Can someone please guide me?
[16:59] <genii> !contribute
[17:03] <Riddell> bukai: find a bug and fix it :)
[17:04] <Riddell> bukai: make our website more useful
[17:04] <Riddell> bukai: fix our wiki pages
[17:04] <Riddell> bukai: hanging around in developer channels is a good way to soak up the atmosphere, #kubuntu-devel for us
[17:05] <bukai> Riddell: how do i get the source code in which the bug is present?
[17:08] <Riddell> bukai: depends on the package
[17:08] <Riddell> apt-get source ${package}  is one way
[17:09] <bukai> Riddell: thank you :)
[17:17] <MangaKaDenza> say
[17:17] <MangaKaDenza> did the "Get new widgets thing" on the add widgets panel not show anything for anyone else after upgrading to saucy?
[18:17] <fransuva> hi, i'm using kubuntu 13.10 and i tried to install latest amd radeon beta driver(amd radeon hd6950)
[18:17] <fransuva> than i activated additinal drivers, but i have so bad performance in 3d games.
[18:17] <fransuva> how can i get higher performance with my system?
[19:02] <AceKing> I just put a new sound card into my PC. I was having too much trouble with the built in card. Is there a way to delete it, or comment it out?
[19:03] <progers> Hello
[19:05] <progers> How i can change the default sound card from gk104 hdmi audio controller to build in audio?
[19:07] <eagles0513875> progers: its under system settings
[19:07] <eagles0513875> multimedia -> audio and video settings progers
[19:14] <progers> eagles0513875: I have triyed to change it but it doesn't save the configuration
[19:14] <eagles0513875> progers: did you hit apply for me it works no problem changing it and then hitting apply
[19:17] <progers> eagles0513875: Ok,but when i click on the button "volum up" or "volume down" on my keyboard, he change just to gk104 hdmi audio controller but i want to make sound changer to build in audio
[19:17] <eagles0513875> i think that is a bug to be honest as I have the same issue where the keyboard shortcuts do not work.
[19:17] <eagles0513875> to put the volume up or down
[19:18] <progers> so volume up and volume down works with build in audio not with gtk104
[19:18] <progers> But the shortcuts works, but not with the right sound card
[19:19] <eagles0513875> progers: im not sure the shortcuts for me dont work at all :( not to mention i have track pad issues which im still trying to solve
[19:19] <progers> volume change just for gtk104
[19:19] <progers> ok
[19:19] <progers> How to remove this sound card?
[19:19] <eagles0513875> sorry i cannot be of more help
[19:20] <eagles0513875> !sound
[20:11] <eagles0513875> !livecd
[20:12] <cid420> I am having issues installing Kubuntu i386 desktop on vmware is there a workaround?
[20:12] <sithlord48> what kind of issue are you having?
[20:12] <cid420> it hangs
[20:12] <sithlord48> is you vm set up as ubuntu ?
[20:13] <cid420> back screen and hangs
[20:13] <cid420> yea
[20:13] <cid420> black*
[20:13] <sithlord48> check the md5 of the iso ?
[20:13] <cid420> no i havent
[20:13] <cid420> i'll check that
[20:13] <sithlord48> i would check it just incase..
[20:13] <cid420> thanks
[20:14] <sithlord48> i have not use vmware in some time but never had an issue using it when i have nor any issues in virtualbox
[20:54] <gassho> why muon
[20:54] <gassho> why not synaptic ;-;
[20:54] <gassho> if i wanted to buy software i'd go to pirate bay >8C
[20:54] <lordievader> gassho: Synaptic is GTK+, muon is Qt :)
[20:55] <gassho> :|
[20:56] <gassho> cute?
[20:56] <gassho> cute :3
[20:57] <lordievader> gassho: That is the way it is pronounced ;)
[20:58] <gassho> i thought it was pronounced cutie :c
[20:58] <MangaKaDenza> cut
[20:58] <gassho> because it does look cute
[20:58] <gassho> what
[20:58] <gassho> gross
[20:58] <FloodBotK1> gassho: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <gassho> on the condition that you send me some K FloodBotK1
[21:06]  * genii sips his coffee 
[21:06]  * MangaKaDenza sips his genii 
[22:04] <duckx0r> I'm having a problem on this computer. I recently updated from 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 and I added a new user, but when I try to log in with that user the computer hangs with a distorted login screen image. Of the 3 users I have set up, I can only log in with this one. Any ideas what could be causing the system to hang and only for certain users?
[22:17] <eagles0513875> hey guys im back again i tested my track pad issue with a live usb and the issue persists i have no track pad what so ever :(
[22:17] <eagles0513875> any ideas as how to proceed woudl be greatly appreciated
[22:20] <basse> eagles0513875: what does your "xinput --list" say?
[22:21] <eagles0513875> basse: it lists it there ↳ ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad                  id=11   [slave  pointer  (2)]
[22:21] <eagles0513875> the system seems to find it
[22:22] <basse> eagles0513875: does it show up in system settings?
[22:22] <eagles0513875> basse: yes but no way to enable it though
[22:23] <eagles0513875> as well in system settings its showing the right button as disabled
[22:23] <basse> eagles0513875: have you tried enabling it with xinput ?   just thought..
[22:23] <eagles0513875> no i have not how would i go about doing that
[22:24] <basse> eagles0513875: xinput set-int-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 8 1
[22:24] <eagles0513875> with sudo?
[22:24] <basse> no need
[22:24] <eagles0513875> nothing
[22:25] <basse> :(  that is weird.
[22:25] <eagles0513875> this is a first for me as well
[22:25] <basse> eagles0513875: acer laptop?
[22:25] <eagles0513875> no
[22:26] <eagles0513875> toshiba satellite s75-a7221 to be exact
[22:26] <eagles0513875> very nice specced machine and great value for money for what i got it at price wise
[22:27] <basse> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2071125  here is something for etps/2 elantech  have you tried?
[22:28] <eagles0513875> basse: gtried it but it didnt work either :(
[22:32] <eagles0513875> dunno what else could be the issue here
[22:34] <basse> eagles0513875: and surely you have tried fn key shortcut?
[22:34] <eagles0513875> yes i have
[22:34] <eagles0513875> and nothing
[22:35] <eagles0513875> i have issues with those as well
[22:35] <eagles0513875> not even the sound shortcuts work
[22:35] <eagles0513875> as well as an issue with kmix
[22:35] <basse> oh so there are other issues too?
[22:35] <eagles0513875> yes quite a few i hate to say
[22:36] <eagles0513875> i am wondering if the hardware is too new or what
[22:39] <eagles0513875> basse: i had even setup xen hypervisor which when booting onto the xen kernel was causing a kernel panic
[22:39] <Level15> hi, all. I have KVM on a 4 network interfaces server. i want my vms to have bridged network to my lan. should i set up a single bridge with all 4 nics or 1 bridge per nic?
[22:39] <eagles0513875> Level15: that sounds more like an ubuntu-server question
[22:42] <basse> eagles0513875: yea .. maybe it's loading wrong driver, or no driver..
[22:42] <eagles0513875> how would i determine what its doing basse
[22:45] <basse> eagles0513875: hmm.. well maybe checking the logs.. if dmesg has anything about input regarding your touchpad for example
[22:46] <eagles0513875> basse: [   14.710268] psmouse serio2: elantech: assuming hardware version 4 (with firmware version 0x463f03) [   14.722774] psmouse serio2: elantech: Synaptics capabilities query result 0x10, 0x15, 0x0d.
[22:47] <basse> eagles0513875: if you grep "Touchpad" ?
[22:47] <eagles0513875> [   14.784544] input: ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad as /devices/platform/i8042/serio2/input/input12  basse
[22:51] <basse> eagles0513875: do you get anything from "xev" ?
[22:52] <eagles0513875> i do but no response from the track pad
[22:54] <basse> eagles0513875: what if you do : sudo od -x /dev/input/event11
[22:54] <basse> and then try to pad
[22:55] <eagles0513875> nothing
[22:55] <basse> nothing in the console?
[22:56] <basse> i even get stream when ive disabled the pad
[22:56] <basse> it was event11 right?
[22:56] <eagles0513875> id 11 yes
[22:57] <genii> touchpad worked before?
[23:00] <basse> eagles0513875: what does Xorg.0.log say about it?  no errors there?
[23:00] <eagles0513875> genii: with windows yes but kubuntu 13.04 and 13.10 it doesnt
[23:00] <eagles0513875> O_o
[23:00] <eagles0513875> basse: its event 12 at least that is what is showing up in the log
[23:01] <basse> eagles0513875: so if event 12?  so if you do the sudo od -x /dev/input/event12  and try the pad you get stream?
[23:02] <eagles0513875> nothing
[23:02] <genii> Sounds disabled
[23:02] <basse> yea, sounds like it.. so you should get your fn keys working so you can switch it on
[23:02] <eagles0513875> let me paste bin the log
[23:03] <eagles0513875> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373282/
[23:03] <genii> eagles0513875: What is result from: xinput    (eg: what id# is it?)
[23:04] <eagles0513875> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373284/
[23:05] <genii> eagles0513875: I might try: xinput set-prop 11 "Device Enabled" 1
[23:06] <eagles0513875> nothing
[23:06] <genii> Hm.
[23:06]  * genii ponders syndaemon
[23:08] <eagles0513875> yofel: poke
[23:08] <eagles0513875> maybe yofel might be able to help us shed some light as to my track pad issue
[23:09] <yofel> I'm rather bad when it comes to input handling :/
[23:09] <yofel> but let me read the backlog
[23:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[23:10] <eagles0513875> yofel: at this point i would appreciate any help i can get, and that isnt the only issue either the keyboard shortcuts on top of the fn keys dont do anything they dont lower or raise the volume. also kmix doesnt work or display the correct channels to adjust the sound either
[23:10] <eagles0513875> you have to open the full mixer to be able to adjust the levels
[23:11] <yofel> did you try to select the master channel for kmix?
[23:11] <yofel> maybe it's using the wrong one
[23:12] <eagles0513875> yep that was that issue :) kmix issue sorted
[23:12] <eagles0513875> now the other two im not sure about
[23:12] <basse> eagles0513875: one more.. what you get with "synclient -l"
[23:13] <eagles0513875> basse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373322/
[23:13] <basse> eagles0513875: grr.. i was hoping for touchpadoff=1 :)
[23:14] <basse> aynways you can always try.. "synclient TouchpadOff=0"
[23:14] <basse> or toggle it .. =1  then =0
[23:15] <eagles0513875> nothing at all
[23:17]  * genii puts the Elantech people on his "bad, don't use" list
[23:17] <eagles0513875> genii: tell me bout it
[23:17] <basse> eagles0513875: well.. what if..
[23:17] <eagles0513875> basse: what if what?
[23:17] <eagles0513875> oh do tell ilove what ifs
[23:18] <basse> eagles0513875: 1) sudo modprobe -r psmouse   2) sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps
[23:18] <eagles0513875> ok now what
[23:18] <eagles0513875> as its still not doing anything
[23:18] <basse> any difference?
[23:18] <eagles0513875> no
[23:19] <eagles0513875> yofel: i hope you devs can get things sorted for elantech touchpads
[23:20] <yofel> me certainly not, stuff like that would be the field of ubuntu-x I think
[23:20] <yofel> file a bug at least please
[23:21] <genii> There seems to be one against elantech pads for xubuntu
[23:21] <eagles0513875> yofel: i will let the triagers get that sorted out.
[23:22] <genii> Also this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1219708
[23:22] <eagles0513875> Riddell: just wanted to let you know :) keep up the great work with kubuntu you have me hooked on it as a distro :). except this current trackpad issue as well as the keyboard shortcut keys not working
[23:22] <eagles0513875> that is exactly the issue i think
[23:22] <eagles0513875> cuz this was a clean install but also occured after an upgrade
[23:23] <eagles0513875> from 13.04 to 13.10
[23:23] <genii> eagles0513875: I think you should probably add to the bug report above
[23:23] <eagles0513875> ya i will
[23:24] <eagles0513875> what else should i add?
[23:24] <eagles0513875> the poster already posted alot of the stuff that could be of any use
[23:27] <genii> eagles0513875: You should do at Konsole: ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-input-synaptics      and then it will gather stuff. Maybe add to the report some of the steps that were taken here in the channel as well that also did not work.
[23:28] <basse> heh.. there was one post on ubuntuforums where a guy was able to use the fn-shortcut while in login prompt to enable the touchpad which was disabled by default..
[23:28] <eagles0513875> O_O
[23:28] <eagles0513875> sigh
[23:28] <basse> yea
[23:28] <eagles0513875> that is just messed up lol
[23:30] <basse> what if your shortcut for disabling the pad?
[23:30] <basse> what is*
[23:31] <eagles0513875> FN+f5
[23:31] <eagles0513875> basse: remember though i have shortcuts which arent working either
[23:31] <eagles0513875> input is being taken
[23:32] <basse> what you mean by input ?
[23:36] <genii> Hm
[23:36] <genii> !info fnfxd
[23:36] <genii> eagles0513875: I might try installing that.
[23:37] <eagles0513875> brb again
[23:39] <basse> genii: well that sounds like a hit!
[23:40] <genii> There is also toshset but I think it's more about other Toshiba-specific hardware than the keyboards
[23:40] <eagles0513875> ya i hope so
[23:40] <genii> !info toshset
[23:43] <eagles0513875> genii: ill owe you a few mugs of coffee and a few pints if that solved my shortcut issue
[23:43] <genii> eagles0513875: Yer on! :)
[23:46] <eagles0513875> genii: that didnt do anything :(
[23:46] <basse> kind of funny that this came up today.. because ealier today i made myself a script to quickly turn off the keyboard and touchpad of my laptop when i'm using my external keyboard and wacom..   (i can then stack things on top of my laptops keyboard without it pressing anything down.. heh)
[23:46] <genii> eagles0513875: Might need a reboot to work, actually
[23:47] <eagles0513875> i did that
[23:47] <eagles0513875> damn thing whn i hit fn f3 locks the computer and then it goes to black screen like its locked up horrendously
[23:48] <eagles0513875> heading home talk later
[23:48] <genii> Hm
[23:51] <basse> eagles0513875: driver issues i'm sure.. maybe if you have time, and fast connection.. download some other distro live cd and try with that.. something completely different like fedora or.. i dont know..
[23:52] <basse> if they work fine there.. see what different drivers are loaded.. compare.. something.
[23:53] <basse> i'm lucky to have everything working out of the box.. and with this new kubuntu version i again have wireless light showing up again too :) that was the last thing that didn't work.. wireless worked fine, but led didn't.. now i have that too..