[00:13] xnox: it looks like some problem exist with getting the sources. i get allways a error message while trying to fetch the sources as you have written. [00:13] xperia: can you copy your error to paste.ubuntu.com ? [00:14] its say: tag v1.12.7 tagger Conley Owens 1381959964 -0700 repo 1.12.7 error ... [00:21] xnox: could fix the problem! reason was that i used a older version of repo. downloaded the newest version of repo and everything works like it should now. thanks! lot of people have same problem it looks like. === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:54] xnox: do i understand it right that the next stept after downloading the sources is doing "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c new-ubunt-touch-build" ? [00:56] xperia: no. [00:57] xperia: phablet-dev-bootstrap is just a fancy wrapper to install build-depends, install repo, and do repo init & repo sync. [00:57] xperia: read it's code. [01:04] xnox: huh okay. It was the next step written in the Porting guide. Surprised now that you are right. Its written even. "This tool is a Python wrapper around repo and used to also check out bzr repositories before all code was managed by repo and git." but then what are the next steps? extracting the blobs ? [01:07] xperia: can you please follow guide from top to bottom? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting on the right hand side at the top of the page it has heading in-order. [01:07] 2.5 is "Building the Android pieces" and it has 7 steps in order as subheadings. [01:07] xperia: ^ [01:08] xperia: after dev environment is fully setup, proceed to "2.5.2 Enabling a new device" of which there are two ways to do. [01:11] ahh okay 2.5.2 is the next step after the dev enivronment is fully set up. to be 100% sure i ask this again. the step 2.5.1 "phablet-dev-bootstrap -c new-ubunt-touch-build" can be skipped right ? [01:17] xperia: if you don't understand remove everything. and start following the guide..... [01:18] xperia: or like read the whole step carefully instead of skimming [01:18] xperia: "You can check out the source code using the repo and git tools already familiar to Android ROM developers, as described here [01:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/AndroidDevel" [01:18] xperia: "Alternately, all the Android code can be downloaded using the phablet-dev-bootstrap tool....." [01:18] * xnox got to go. [01:19] xnox: okay thanks for the help! have a nice time. === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === bjf is now known as bjf[afk] [02:28] hello, i am trying to flash the stable version on ubuntu touch on my galaxy nexus [02:29] how ever it keeps saying device not detected or dosent have adb enabled [02:33] any ideas whats wrong? === duflu_ is now known as duflu === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha === SirCmpwn_ is now known as SirCmpwn === io is now known as IdleOne [06:25] ll === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === soul is now known as Guest21411 === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === iahmad_ is now known as iahmad === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [08:29] oSoMoN: hi! could you get https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/webbrowser-app/select-many-noorder-ap1.4/+merge/194031 to lp:webbrowser-app? [08:29] oSoMoN: I guess by merging that to your branch and then that to lp:webbrowser-app, so that it'd build in the PPA with AP1.4 like others [08:31] Mirv, I’d rather merge my branch first into trunk, then chris’ branch [08:32] Mirv, the two branches address completely separate issues === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === mandel` is now known as mandel_ [08:39] oSoMoN: ok, in whichever order, but please try to get them merged soon as we'd hope to release all apps with AP 1.4 support today (and we can't anymore release anything that doesn't have AP 1.4 support anyway) [08:40] Mirv, I’m on it [08:49] thanks === bob is now known as Guest44585 === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi [09:02] veebers: ping! [09:02] veebers: are you by any lucky chance still around? [09:07] Mirv, I’ve merged my MR into trunk, and resubmitted Chris’ MR against the trunk, here it is: https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/webbrowser-app/select-many-noorder-ap1.4/+merge/194081 === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [09:31] Does the SIM-lock work already on mako? [09:37] is ubuntu touch ready for daily use? or still pretty buggy [09:38] oSoMoN: hi! :D [09:38] oSoMoN: I guess soon [09:38] oSoMoN: argh, premature enter [09:38] sil2100, hey [09:39] oSoMoN: I guess soon you'll be sad every time I ping you ;) [09:39] sil2100, just shoot :) [09:39] oSoMoN: hi! We're doing the 1.4 transition - I got veebers branch in that was doing the transition, but we still have 2 failures there [09:40] sil2100, that’s in gallery-app, right? [09:40] oSoMoN: yes, and since you have experience in this already, I decided to poke you ;) [09:40] As you might be able to fix those 2 remaining ones [09:40] sil2100, sure, can you point me to the failures log? [09:40] oSoMoN: sure, thanks, let me fetch that [09:41] Good morning all; happy Stress Awareness Day! :-D [09:41] DJJeff, the basic functions work fine but there are still many missing bits (you can make and recieve calls but there is no vibration support yet for example ... ) [09:43] oSoMoN: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-trusty/464/? [09:43] oSoMoN: it might be a bit different, as this is already using 1.4 - so maybe it might be harder as I'm not sure how it's with 1.4 documentation [09:43] But it might not be related as well [09:44] sil2100, I’m looking into it [09:44] oSoMoN: thank you! [09:44] sil2100, have you seen my answer to Paul’s e-mail about the failures? [09:46] oSoMoN: didn't read it up yet, but I see you mentioned the two failures there ;) [09:46] oSoMoN: anyway, you think hiding-and-then-showing would fix it here as well? [09:47] sil2100, yep, the tldr is that similar failures might surface in the future, as they are inherently race conditions caused by the new default behaviour of the toolbar [09:47] Hi everyone! Just want to ask if there are any plans to support Nexus 5 in the future? [09:47] sil2100, let me check the logs, I guess so === timppa_ is now known as timppa [09:49] sil2100, first one is clearly an instance of such a race condition [09:52] oSoMoN: damn, well at least we know now that it's not 1.4's fault [09:52] sil2100, yeah === gusch is now known as gusch|brb === fmasi is now known as fmasi_afk [10:06] sil2100, I submitted https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/gallery-app/hide-toolbar/+merge/194094, let’s see if that does the trick [10:07] sil2100, where is the PPA where I can get autopilot 1.4 ? [10:07] oSoMoN: it's in daily-build [10:07] oSoMoN: i.e. ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build [10:07] sil2100, thanks [10:08] oSoMoN: just remember that it's always risky to use this PPA ;) [10:08] sil2100, I’ll hand-pick the packages I need [10:10] sil2100, it doesn’t seem to have it for saucy, is it for trusty only? [10:10] oSoMoN: ah, right, yes sadly - but you can download the deb packages and install them on saucy I guess [10:10] ;/ [10:10] ok, I’ll try that [10:10] Since 1.4 is exclusive for trusty I suppose, sorry for the trouble [10:11] ’tsalright === fmasi_afk is now known as fmasi === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:52] hu [10:52] hi* [10:52] i have a question, i got ubuntu touch, how do i dock? [10:53] guys? [10:54] people? [10:54] fta_96_: we haven't implemented the convergence / dock features yet === _salem is now known as salem_ [10:55] oh, ok [10:55] so when will it be available [10:55] ? [10:55] fta_96_, that is planned for october ... [10:56] october? [10:56] yes [10:56] like 2014? [10:56] right, the month :) [10:57] so i have to wait a whole year? [10:57] 14.04 (the april release) will se further finishing of the phone image ... 14.10 (the october release) will see the first convergence implementation [10:58] Morning all [10:58] oh ok thanx alot :) [10:58] ogra_: so image 12 looks good on the whole I've had a couple of niggles with it [10:58] davmor2, it looks very bad on the test front [10:58] (failures for maguro nearly doubled up) [10:59] ogra_: haha sounds about right :) === makimac_ is now known as makimac [11:11] I want to know is ubuntu touch supporting galaxy note 2 N7100 right now? [11:15] !devices | adi_ [11:15] adi_: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [11:15] oSoMoN: any luck with gallery-app? :) [11:16] how do I get autopilot 1.4 on my desktop? distupgrade to trusty? [11:16] t1mp: you can get it from ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build, but it's trusty only for now [11:16] t1mp: you can try installing the trusty packages on saucy though === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk [11:21] sil2100, CI job still running [11:22] sil2100: but soon it will come to trusty without a ppa? [11:22] then I'll wait until I am sure that I need it [11:23] t1mp: yes, we're working on the transition now [11:23] okay === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === gusch|brb is now known as gusch === soul is now known as Guest83880 === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [11:48] ricmm: ping === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:21] boiko: hello! [12:21] hi sil2100! [12:23] boiko: sooo! Do you have a moment for some dialer-app autopilot help by any chance? [12:24] sil2100: sure === iahmad__ is now known as iahmad [12:53] tvoss_, poke [12:53] ogra_, pong [12:54] tvoss_, soo ... in the light of the backgrouns services discussion ... i have that self written "ebook reader" ... [12:54] tvoss_, and reading a book with it is pretty annoying because the screen always dims and shuts down ... [12:55] what are our plans for foregrounded apps to inhibit suspend in such a case [12:55] ogra_, they have to be able to do so, but we need to define the integration points between apps and powerd -> UDS discussion, would need to look for the blueprint [12:56] ogra_, less a lifecycle, more a power mgmt question from my pov [12:56] (i guess there are more use cases where an app wants to override default behavior) [12:56] robru: image 12 with the new friends app (mentions tab) I'm not seeing friends-service in top now except now and then it uses around 12% then drops of the visible list again [12:56] well, i didnt see it in context with lifecycle but with background services ... [12:56] i think its a similar thing ... just that the service listens to foregrounded apps instead [12:57] tvoss_, great, if there is an UDS discussion i'll try o be ther [12:57] e [12:58] ogra_, I think what the app should be able to do is influence the idle timeout if it is in the foreground [12:58] ogra_, which is then translated by the shell, which never jumps to idle and dims the screen [12:58] (i think it should extend to a lot of other spaces ... i.e. someone could write a scheduler app that overrides the ringtone default based on a scedule etc) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:01] oSoMoN: jenkins doesn't like the branch, let's see the failures [13:02] sil2100, yeah, looks like a stupid mistake on my part [13:03] sil2100, I’ll hold off on this one because timp is working on a fix for the uitk emulators, if he manages to make it then the gallery-app won’t need any changes after all [13:07] bfiller: ping! [13:07] bfiller: hi! [13:08] bfiller: so, we're ongoing the migration to 1.4, and it seems the ubuntu-keyboard migration didn't get merged in - I tried approving it, but I get strange failures from CI (looks like a FTBFS, not even a test errror) [13:08] tmoenicke: ^ [13:08] https://code.launchpad.net/~veebers/ubuntu-keyboard/port_to_1.4/+merge/193514 [13:14] ogra_: hey, got a sec for an MR? [13:15] sure [13:20] ogra_: https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/ubuntu/trusty/initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch/no-hardcoding-user/+merge/194004 [13:23] cwayne, approved ... will take a while to go in though, i assume didrocks wants to finish the AP 1.4 transition before we rebuild android [13:23] cwayne: ogra_: right :) [13:23] knowing that we have fun with other moving parts [13:23] ogra_: thanks! that's totally fine with me, no rush here at all :) [13:23] k [13:24] just been on my team's plate for awhile, figured i should at least get an MR in === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:29] popey, can you look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/118/feedback/ ? [13:29] popey, and good day to you :-) [13:30] :D [13:30] oSoMoN: hi [13:31] sergiusens: done [13:31] thanks [13:36] sergiusens: hey! got an MR if you have time.. if not that's fine, this one's not particularly urgent :) https://code.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/phablet-tools/phablet-backup/+merge/194053 [13:37] cwayne, saw it last night ;-) [13:37] :) [13:37] cwayne, I actually have an MR I need to iron out for the backup locations to be better [13:38] cwayne, and you just beat me to this :-P [13:38] cwayne, oh, there's a bug number I think you might want to attach the branch to [13:38] ah, i didn't realize there was a bug [13:38] video recording mode not working on Maguro. Is that a known issue anyone? [13:38] matv1, yes [13:39] ogra cool thnx [13:39] cwayne, nevermind, I dreamt it [13:39] sergiusens, whee, so cwayne made your dreams come true ! [13:40] i didnt see it on the last version of the online excel sheet that was put out for dev images [13:40] lol [13:40] lol not [13:40] :-P [13:41] :) [13:41] in fact it says working perfectly. someone should take that offline. LP is the only bugtracker now i presume [13:41] oSoMoN: did you have a free moment to get this hide-toolbar branch repaired? :) === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:45] ogra_ sorry I am having trouble finding that bug on LP. Can you maybe give me a link or a bug nmbr? [13:46] hmm, no, i just know it is known ... no idea what bug number that is [13:46] popey, do you happen to know ? [13:46] (video recording not working) [13:46] its deliberately disabled [13:47] bug 1227293 [13:47] bug 1227293 in camera-app "Recording video in camera-app hangs the application on N4" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227293 [13:52] bfiller: do you have a moment to get this reviewed? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/camera-app/autopilot_1.4_fixes/+merge/194141 [13:58] pete-woods: maybe you have a moment for a quick AP-related review? ^ [13:59] sil2100: not sure about the ubuntu-keyboard FTBS. related to mterry's fix at rev 97 [14:00] bfiller: you think a re-run will help? It was building fine during the release yesterday [14:00] sil2100: might need this MR merged? https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/clean-home/+merge/193979 [14:00] sil2100: xnox was seeing an issue when running in sbuild, might be related [14:01] okay thnx popey [14:01] but as i said to ogra_ a minute ago: it says on the excel sheet status of the last preview image video is working perfectly [14:01] sil2100: xvfb-run: error: Xvfb failed to start seems to be the error [14:01] might be thought to take that offline [14:02] bfiller: ok, I'll check if it bails out now and if it does, I'll top-approve this one (as it was reviewed already) to get things building again [14:03] sil2100: just approved the camera autopilot MR [14:03] bfiller: thanks! [14:03] sil2100, hide-toolbar branch repaired, let’s see if CI likes it better [14:04] oSoMoN: awesome, thanks :) [14:07] sil2100: maybe just trigger the build again? [14:07] tmoenicke: retriggered, but it was already the second time I did it - although the first time it happened it was an LP issue [14:07] tmoenicke: anyway, if it fails now I'll get the test-fixer approved as well [14:07] ok cool [14:08] I guess we can approve it anyway [14:08] tmoenicke: any concerns on getting https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/clean-home/+merge/193979 in, or do you give green light? [14:08] popey, just added a bunch more apps [14:09] \o/ [14:09] sergiusens: ok [14:09] gusch: ^^^^ [14:09] sil2100: bfiller: i'd rather see https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/libpinyin4/+merge/193859 merged. But that will make the built binary gain a dependency on a package from -proposed. [14:10] sil2100: bfiller: but it will migrate fine, as ubuntu-keyboard is the last one holding up to libpinyin2 (both will migrate together) [14:10] hmmm [14:11] sil2100: not sure if I need a landing ask / further planning on landing that one though. Not sure how everything else will react. [14:11] Not sure what to do in this case, since we're right now in the 'autopilot 1.4' phase [14:11] sil2100: alternative is to copy libpinyin4 into the daily-landing ppa. [14:11] sil2100: tmoenicke https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubuntu-keyboard/clean-home/+merge/193979 looks ok for me [14:11] So I'd like to merge only as much as we need actually, without touching any code at best [14:12] xnox: so maybe like this: [14:12] sil2100: clean-home only affects local sbuild, sbuild on launchpad defines a writable $HOME. [14:12] xnox: is the problem only happening in the CI builder? [14:12] sil2100: that problem does not happen in the CI builder. [14:12] xnox: it suddently did, at least bfiller identified it as 'probably the same', for instance: [14:12] sil2100: it only happens so far on my local machine / in the mk-sbuild (which is not used by CI, PPA, distro builders) [14:13] sil2100: oh, did he?! nevermind me then. [14:13] xnox: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-keyboard-trusty-amd64-autolanding/16/console [14:13] xnox: maybe it's not that? But I'm wondering [14:13] I just want to get it merged in - I can merge it in manually as well if it still fails (as I did a re-approval) [14:13] And we can try fixing it after we're done with migrating to 1.4 [14:14] So like tomorrow [14:14] Since I just want the bare minimum to get 1.4 working right now [14:14] sil2100: well if i386 builder is different from armhf/amd64 (both define writable $HOME), then yes, it could be the same issue. [14:14] sil2100: sounds good. [14:15] sergiusens: all done. [14:15] popey, thanks === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [15:03] sil2100: sorry, missed your ping, probably better that bill reviewed it, though [15:04] pete-woods: yes, np! ;) [15:09] beuno_: ping [15:10] beuno_: sergiusens has me editing the text on http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/get-started/ ‎ about icons and screenshots [15:10] beuno_: I wanted to check if all icons and screenshots needed to be PNG, or if other formats were supported [15:17] mhall119, the server doesn't care, so it depends on what the client support [15:17] alecu would know === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [15:21] alecu: ^^ [15:22] mhall119: I'm checking [15:24] thanks [15:24] beuno_, alecu mhall119; wrt to png/svg, matiasb told me the svg icons are converted to png on upload; so it shouldn't be an issue client side [15:24] I tested an upload and that is indeed the case [15:26] mhall119: it seems that the click scope and click preview are just passing the icons to the dash, so our code would not be affected by it. I would ask saviq if the dash prefers any other formats [15:28] mhall119: in any case, I think the docs should just request a PNG. It's not that we want to encourage devs to start uploading TIFFs nor animated GIFs, right? [15:28] and [15:28] sorry === ramsey_ is now known as Guest88254 [15:29] mhall119, alecu: There was a design clinic today where the designers mentioned that the icon format should ideally be svg, png or jpg [15:29] What is the status of Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 5? [15:29] svg is the recommended format since it scales automatically [15:29] and regarding jpegs, my feeling is that they end up looking ugly at some point... but they might make sense for the increasing icon sizes [15:30] nik90: where did that design clinic take place? [15:31] alecu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHs0bYWcq-E [15:31] Sorry if this has been asked 1million times already :) [15:33] Guest88254: I heard its being investigated :) [15:36] I just found the porting page [15:36] And I got a Nexus 5 yesterday [15:36] Maybe I can port it myself [15:37] Guest88254: the Nexus 5 was just released, give us some time to evaluate it [15:37] or port it yourself, that would be awesome [15:37] is there a CyanogenMod image for it yet? [15:39] Doesn't look like it :/ [15:40] mhall119, our android tree is still on 4.2.2 ... to make N5 work the first thing to do would be to bring it to 4.4 [15:42] I saw that janimo` did some work to make it easy to base out of aosp again; so it will be easier to not wait for cyanogenmod === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [15:42] but there's been a couple of code changes which would need to be redone [15:44] gtg, but thanks for the info. [15:45] iBelieve, ping [15:46] sergiusens, I started working on 4.3 too before kitkat got released. I did not finish it yet though, not everything builds with 4.3 [15:47] janimo`, bionic has changed in 4.4 [15:47] We probably need to set up another tree for AOSP. 4.2.2 could be pushed in the CM-based tree since it already had most of android-4.2.2 in it. [15:50] sergiusens: hey, i think there's an issue with the calendar app's translations, i vaguely remember you doing some MR's to core apps enabling translations (maybe setting the gettext domain?), I wonder if that never happened for calendar [15:51] cwayne, it depends on a ui toolkit feature (I saw a change to that yesterday); does it work for other apps? [15:52] sergiusens: yeah, other apps are at least partially translated, calendar app seems to be not at all [15:52] cwayne, my change was just to make sure $click_app/locale/com.ubuntu.calendar had the mo files [15:52] cwayne, let me check === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:53] sergiusens: thanks [15:54] i see 4.4 has a screen recorder function.. that would be awesome if it wasn't android specific... https://plus.google.com/u/0/108191112950724576986/posts/YRRKQxxoit4 [15:55] balloons: pong [15:56] iBelieve, so I found something interesting with the FM ap tests. They are failing on devices and in the lab, and it's because fm is not seeing new files and folders in some cases [15:56] cwayne, at least the layout is correct http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371175/ [15:56] iBelieve, have a look: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty/56/ [15:56] balloons: not even after a few seconds? I think the backend is set up to check for files every 5 seconds. I'll take a look at the link [15:57] cwayne, applicationName mathces too [15:57] iBelieve, no.. for example the test delete: http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty/56/artifact/ubuntu_filemanager_app.tests.test_filemanager.TestFolderListPage.test_delete_file%20%28with%20mouse%29.ogv [15:57] and, http://91.189.93.70:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-trusty/56/testReport/junit/ubuntu_filemanager_app.tests.test_filemanager/TestFolderListPage/test_delete_file_with_mouse_/ [15:57] cwayne, aside from that not really sure what else needs to be in place; dpm would know; or I guess kalikiana [15:57] I added some debugging lines in there to prove the file is created, and to have the system list the files in home afterward to ensure that is the case [15:58] kalikiana: ping [15:58] iBelieve, I also increased the timeouts to 1 min.. nothing, it never sees the new file/folder [15:58] sergiusens: huh, that's odd. thanks for checking [15:58] cwayne, do you know of any tool to inspect mo files? [15:59] sergiusens: i do not === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:00] sergiusens: actually now that i'm looking at it, id on't think any of the clicks are properly translated [16:00] the apps that are properly translated are debs it seems [16:01] cwayne, ah, well that explains it [16:01] balloons: strange. Are you using Trusty? I will install the app in my Saucy VM and see if it works there. [16:01] sergiusens: sorry, hadn't realized that all core apps weren't clicks yet\ [16:02] iBelieve, yes I'm in trusty [16:04] cwayne, you might want this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/0.1.46+14.04.20131105.1-0ubuntu1 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1239627 [16:04] Ubuntu bug 1239627 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Install translations (po/mo files)" [Medium,Fix committed] [16:05] sergiusens: that's what i have [16:10] kenvandine: image 12 is much better for friends-service, on the top list it shows up from time to time using about 12% then drops off the viewable apps about a second latter :) [16:10] great [16:11] davmor2, does click-update-manager work for you? [16:12] kenvandine: yes 9 apps updated earlier [16:12] davmor2, it finds updates for me, but doesn't apply the updates [16:12] and the log shows errors with signond [16:12] makes me wonder if ubuntuone-credentials is broken [16:13] kenvandine: ah u1 creds had an issue for some as the passwords and creds got rehashed just remove the account and readd it and you should be good to go [16:13] kenvandine: check u1 on your desktop too [16:13] davmor2, ok... [16:14] kenvandine: that will like need you to re sign in [16:16] nik90: great, thanks! [16:17] kenvandine: is it working now? [16:18] davmor2, well it's different now ;) [16:18] haha [16:18] now clicking install all updates [16:18] all the update buttons turn to "Retry" buttons [16:18] haha [16:19] balloons: just tested the File Manager in Saucy, it works fine. Could you create an LP bug, and then I will assign it to the backend developer. [16:19] iBelieve, yes it works on the desktop [16:19] but it fails on the phone and in the lab [16:19] iBelieve, make sense? on my trusty desktop it works [16:20] balloons: weird. how is the lab different from your desktop? [16:20] davmor2, now the download service is timing out [16:20] oSoMoN: you got down the number of gallery-app failures to one \o/ [16:20] iBelieve, well... my biggest concern is that it fails on the phone [16:20] sigh [16:20] oSoMoN: anyway, what I would recommend is - since the two failures that you were fixing they weren't related to the 1.4 transition, right? [16:21] balloons: I don't have a Ubuntu phone at all, so I can't test it on the phone. I'll take a look at the code, though. [16:21] oSoMoN: as I guess we have had them failing yesterday as well [16:21] sil2100, yeah, that one is really tricky, that’s purely a timing issue, there’s not much I can do about it other than significantly changing the test itself [16:21] mandel_, ping [16:21] oSoMoN: ok, so if you don't mind, let's hold this merge for a moment then [16:21] sil2100, yeah, the failures are due to the change in the default behaviour of the toolbar, so that’s a UITK change, not related to autopilot [16:21] sil2100, sure [16:22] oSoMoN: I'll release gallery-app as it is now, and then when the 1.4 transition is over, let's fix that up completely ;) Without needing to haste or anything [16:22] iBelieve, sure understandable.. just thoughts on why? I can open a proper bug, just thought I would ask you first [16:22] oSoMoN: thanks for taking care of this! [16:22] kenvandine: have you thought about joining QA with those kinda of breakage skills :D [16:22] haha [16:23] ogra_: do any of your devices seemingly randomly wake up when they have suspended? [16:24] popey: ^ [16:24] ogra_: specifically you maguro [16:24] davmor2, do you have any SMS notification service set up ? [16:24] these SMS done get routed through and only cause a screen awkeup atm [16:25] ogra_: not that I'm aware of === fmasi is now known as Guest16174 [16:26] davmor2: no [16:27] mterry: looks like the xvfb is causing problems now when building ubuntu-keyboard. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-keyboard-trusty-i386-autolanding/17/console [16:28] xvfb-run: error: Xvfb failed to start [16:28] balloons: not quite sure what it could be, maybe something to do with the folder modified time not changing (but that is just a wild guess). [16:28] mterry: looks to be i386 specific [16:29] other arches seem to work === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [16:31] bfiller, geeze man [16:34] lots of packages use xvfb for tests... [16:39] mterry: any ideas why it would be failing to start in this case? [16:39] mterry, certainly none for the phone :) [16:40] rsalveti: you know the screen resolution of the old N7? [16:40] 720p [16:40] kenvandine, pong [16:40] tvoss_: right why are we doing tests that need xvfb for phone [16:40] for osk [16:40] ogra_: thx [16:40] yup [16:42] mandel_, hey, i'm seeing timeouts in the downloader service when attempting to update with click-update-downloader [16:42] mandel_, any tips on how i can get more debug info to see where the problem is? [16:43] kenvandine, yes, check under XDG_CACHE/ubuntu-download-manager/ubuntu-download-manager for the logs (I know, two times the same, is a bug, is fixed in trunk ;) ) [16:43] mandel_, i did... all it says is the download service timed out [16:44] 2013-11-06 11:21:21,119 - DEBUG - Timeout reached, shutdown service. [16:44] 3 lines for each attempt, registered the service, true then that === ryukafalz_ is now known as ryukafalz [16:45] kenvandine, ah, but the timeout means (atleast that timeout) that because there are no downloads we are shutting down to safe resources [16:45] is there a way to remove a click package from a phone? (click -h shows 'install', 'register' and 'unregister', but no 'uninstall') [16:45] kenvandine, you have around 15s to create a download or the daemon is killed [16:46] mandel_, ok... so maybe the problem is in the click updater? [16:46] yes [16:46] kenvandine, pastebin the logs, just to make sure [16:47] sergiusens, do you know anything more about disabling MTP? you mentioned it last week, just want to know if you know any details [16:47] mandel_, /home/phablet/.cache/ubuntu-download-manager/ubuntu-download-manager.log [16:47] davmor2, good to hear [16:47] is webkit (that's src:webkit in the archive, not any other fork) actually used on touch anywhere [16:47] whoops [16:47] ? [16:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371449/ [16:47] http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371454/ [16:47] mandel_, ^^ [16:48] robru: it's amazing the battery life difference :) [16:48] fginther, since the sprint was last week; my normal reviewers weren't available; stuff should start soon again [16:48] fginther, do you want a temp hack? [16:48] davmor2, hahaha, yeah. it's gonna get even better with the next patch that reduces battery usage even further [16:49] robru: ohhhh [16:49] sergiusens, sure, I'm always interested in a hack [16:49] fginther, just adb shell echo manual > /etc/init/mtp-server-bootup.override [16:52] sergiusens, ohhh, this is per device, I thought it had to be disabled on the USB host. Will this be added to phablet-flash? The problem we see is that devices don't come back to adb after phablet-flash (even though it appears to be successful) [16:52] kenvandine, that looks, but I might be wrong, that an error occurs in the updater app, so we have to ask gatox_lunch or maybe dobey because it looks like an issue with the libsignon [16:52] sergiusens, so we can't adb shell to the device [16:52] mandel_, that's what i thought, but other things that use signon are working [16:52] kenvandine, lets ask mmcc [16:52] but maybe it is something in ubuntuone-credentials [16:52] mmcc, ^^ [16:52]