[01:14] <gamerchick02> has anyone in here tried a chromebook?
[02:24] <cmaloney> Evening
[02:24] <cmaloney> rick_h_ had one of the early Chromebooks
[03:00] <brousch7> I have a cr-48 chromebook. It's my son's regular-use computer
[03:08] <rick_h_> yep, <3 the chromebook idea
[03:08] <rick_h_> would happily give one to my wife tbh
[03:08] <rick_h_> if she didn't need the windows VM
[03:21] <shakes808> hello all
[03:22] <shakes808> I got a question, don't I always?
[03:23] <shakes808> To have one of these irc channels up and have more than 5 people in it, how do I do that?
[03:30] <cmaloney> Not sure I follow.
[03:43] <shakes808> This IRC chat that we are in currently. If i join a random one there is a limit to how many people can be in it
[03:43] <shakes808> but there is no limit to this one or the CHC one
[03:43] <cmaloney> I think that's a freenode limitation?
[03:44] <cmaloney> You may need to look into how to create a group channel for your project
[03:46] <cmaloney> Though it could also be something simple like etting the channel limit
[03:46] <cmaloney> setting
[03:47] <cmaloney> https://www.alien.net.au/irc/chanmodes.html
[03:49] <shakes808> ... :/ blocked at work
[03:49] <shakes808> haha
[03:49] <shakes808> will have to look at it later
[03:50] <cmaloney> Lovely.
[05:07] <shakes808> leaving work finally, have a good night
[05:08] <shakes808> haha timed that perfectly ;)
[14:31] <jrwren> good morning!
[14:32] <rick_h_> ugh
[14:33]  * ColonelPanic001 seconds rick_h_ 
[14:57] <jrwren> happy happy!
[14:58] <rick_h_> :P
[15:10] <jrwren> made a rackspace account this morning and got nova talking to it. muhuwahahahah!
[15:14] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:16] <cmaloney> They're doing email upgrades at work. This little nugget showed up in the email: "As a performance recommendation, please always try to keep your Inbox under 200 or so."
[15:16] <cmaloney> Seriously, if my inbox wasn't zero before the end of the day I would go insane.
[15:30] <jrwren> i wonder why it matters if inbox has 200 messages, when archive folders have thousands.
[15:30] <rick_h_> because the inbox folder is requested and refreshed every time you check email
[15:31] <rick_h_> and probably re-indexed, search updated, etc
[15:32] <jrwren> i thought most mail clients request and refresh all folders at the same period as inbox these days.
[15:32] <jrwren> i'm likely wrong
[15:32] <rick_h_> no, most have the list of folders to check. I know on my phone I only sync 3 folders auto
[15:32] <rick_h_> and that's in gmail (labels)
[15:32] <rick_h_> no wait, that's the tablet with the manual imap stuff to gmail
[16:20] <greg-g> well, my offlineimap checks everything every 10 minutes :)
[16:20] <greg-g> but yeah, still, don't tell me how to manage my inbox, you figure out how to do indexing right
[16:20] <greg-g> (not that I would ever have >200 in my inbox, good gosh)
[16:24] <brousch> greg-g: My wife says she has 10,000 emails in her Inbox at work because she never files or archives them. She must drive her Outlook admin nuts
[16:25] <jcastro> outlook gets even worse
[16:25] <jcastro> because if you run out of room on the server
[16:25] <jcastro> people put things in PST files
[16:25] <jcastro> and _screw_ everything about those
[16:25] <jcastro> jrwren, wanna go to AACS tonight?
[16:30] <jrwren> jcastro: nope. you going?
[16:31] <jcastro> yeah
[16:31] <jcastro> I got voted president
[16:31] <jcastro> so I need to go
[16:31] <jrwren> yes, you should go.
[16:31] <jrwren> what is the topic?
[16:31] <jrwren> i participated in AACS for a long time, but now I do other groups, like SEMJS this Monday.
[16:32] <jrwren> I can't be away from family every night of the week, so I have to prioritize
[16:32] <jcastro> which one is SEMJS?
[16:32] <jcastro> some html thing is the topic
[16:32] <jcastro> I don't remember
[16:32] <jrwren> javascript
[16:33] <jrwren> Monday is Joe Fiorni from Cleveland talking about ember js
[16:33] <jrwren> should be interesting. he has been doing ember for a while and ember is intereesting
[16:33] <rick_h_> jrwren: you go to SEMJS? I keep wanting to head out for it but it's on the one night I can't get away
[16:34] <jrwren> i go when arbor hosts it.
[16:34] <jrwren> the organizers are friends.
[16:35] <rick_h_> ah, it moves around?
[16:40] <jrwren> yes
[16:45] <cmaloney> I'm not going to tell you how to run your inbox, but I'm going to nag you that you're probably better off having a filter rule that automatically deletes anything in your inbox that is older than 7 days
[16:45] <cmaloney> because the world from when that email was sent has likely changed, and you're not appropriately engaged enough with it to start with.
[16:46] <cmaloney> So who cares what it was. Delete it.
[16:46] <cmaloney> And yeah, I think the big problem is because people use Outlook with it, and Outlook is a PITA with large .pst files.
[16:47] <cmaloney> Seriously, archive mail if you can help it.
[17:54] <jrwren> baracuda IPO today
[17:54] <jrwren> http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/06/us-barracudanetworks-ipo-idINBRE9A50O520131106
[17:56] <cmaloney> NOTTWITTERNOCARE
[18:10] <jrwren> not sure if htey are MI based company, but they have a large AA presence.
[18:14] <rick_h_> yay pebble updates.
[18:20] <rick_h_> ooh, that's cool. Your watch can say "Oh hey, you left your phone back there dude"
[18:20] <brousch> Are updates making it bigger, like a rock, or smaller, like a sand grain?
[18:21] <rick_h_> updates mean new apis, accelerometer support, and big software companies putting out apps for it
[18:21] <greg-g> the proximity warning is neat
[18:21] <rick_h_> yea
[18:23] <rick_h_> http://r.bmark.us/u/a87669a975bdc7
[18:28] <brousch> rick_h_: Going to take up Android dev now?
[18:28] <rick_h_> brousch: no, pebble is its own sdk in C
[18:28] <rick_h_> brousch: I'm just happy to buy something that gets better with time
[18:28] <rick_h_> they're not releasing a second device you have to buy to get cool nicer features
[18:28] <brousch> ah
[18:29] <rick_h_> #happy-kickstarter-user
[18:29] <brousch> Hm, I thought it ran Android. So it runs some other OS?
[18:29] <rick_h_> yea, it's own low level os
[18:29] <rick_h_> galaxy gear does android but has to charge every day/etc
[18:29] <rick_h_> pebblie is nice, light, charge once a week
[18:29] <brousch> open source?
[18:30] <rick_h_> hmm, I don't think their base system is OSS
[18:30] <brousch> CUT OFF YOUR ARM NOW
[18:30] <rick_h_> brousch: look around and point at your non-oss stuff :P
[18:31]  * brousch pokes his damn Windows computer
[18:42] <jrwren> how can I see the definition of a purely virtual package?
[18:42] <jrwren> all of my iOS devices have only gotten better with time :)
[18:43] <brousch> Even when they removed google maps?
[18:43] <jrwren> yes
[18:44] <jrwren> although I'll conciede that in that case "better" is highly subjective.
[20:46] <rick_h_> and this is why we <3 google http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/googlers-say-f-you-to-nsa-company-encrypts-internal-network/
[20:57] <cmaloney> I think I just figured out what those barges in the water are for: sailing their datacenter out of the USA. :)
[22:01] <jrwren> but we dont' <3 google
[22:01] <jrwren> and the scarier part is that they didn't have that setup already
[22:04] <rick_h_> I don't know, at that scale things like ssl penalties hurt
[22:04] <rick_h_> and they've had it in progress
[22:05] <greg-g> ugh, I really fucking dislike passive-aggressive cc'ing on emails. Thread starts with 3 people on it, as I point out someone's lack of understanding, they keep adding managers to the cc list..
[22:05] <rick_h_> greg-g: ugh, hate that (though I've pulled that move once or twice)
[22:05] <rick_h_> but that's typicaly a bcc :)
[22:05] <greg-g> confession: we don't have ipsec setup between our datacenters yet :(
[22:22] <jrwren> i hate email
[22:41] <rick_h_> cmaloney: waf no CHC for me tonight. Work fires are a burning
[22:41] <greg-g> weee, not just me!
[22:42] <rick_h_> greg-g: nope! we've missed release by one day, headi1ng on two, and if we can't get it done soon it'll bump to next week yay!
[22:43] <waf> bummer, rick_h_. i'll be at chc, hope your work fires die down.
[22:43] <rick_h_> waf: cool, wish you guys luck with space
[23:24] <jrwren> nor me... libtool is NOT fun
[23:30] <rick_h_> it's like they built me into a python library! https://pypi.python.org/pypi/autopep8