[00:00] <wafflejock_> joossee: think I found the driver code.... unfortunately I'm not the C programmer I once was http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ar9003_phy.c
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> balM: first try syncing. then we'll see if it's right or not
[00:00] <Serus> bekks, lol. I'm running a samba server on the raspberry pi and I use it to upload torrents or stream anime to my laptop.
[00:01] <joossee> silveira, hitsujiTMO it is PCIe lspci --nn vendor ID is [168c:0030] ?
[00:01] <Serus> bekks, the nvidia card is in my laptop.
[00:01] <dalkeehon> hi everyone
[00:01] <wafflejock_> joossee: not in the list http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k/devices ?
[00:02] <wafflejock_> oh wait maybe
[00:02] <Serus> !cinnamon
[00:02] <Serus> !cinnamon | Serus
[00:02] <joossee> wafflejock_, "This page is horribly out of date. Please refer instead to the products page."
[00:02] <wafflejock_> Unex DNXA-116 PCI Express is in the list
[00:02] <Serus> !info cinnamon | Serus
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: this any good to you? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2032357
[00:03] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, im nottrying to setupan AP? just connect to router at 5ghz
[00:04] <joossee> this is a server so i really need max bw since i cant wire it which is "shame" i know.
[00:04] <silveira> my ath5k lets me do 5ghz
[00:04] <george_> hey
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: ahh sorry, didnt read it fully
[00:05] <silveira> sometimes the "country code" can effect which friequencies are available
[00:06] <joossee> silveira, thats onlyfor aditionall channels 13 and 14 and stuff.. notdual band. i knowmy network is good.
[00:06] <joossee> can kismet see 5ghz packets?
[00:07] <joossee> Rory, im willing to pull the card out and try to read it off the chip if you wanna keep going?
[00:08] <Rory> joossee: Honestly I should go to bed, when my IRC client tells me the day has changed, that's usually my cue
[00:08] <joossee> lol ok well ty.
[00:08] <bekks> joossee: that wont help.
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: actually the thing i just linked was a patch to enable 5ghz for AP mode that bypassed the eeprom restrictions
[00:08] <bekks> joossee: which wifi chipset is it?
[00:08] <wafflejock_> joossee: http://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/168c/0030
[00:09] <Rory> bekks: Basically the documentation for ath9k shows that his card could be one of 4 possibilities. One of those 4 is not supporting 5GHz in ath9k, and the other 3 are
[00:09] <joossee> bekks, ath9k with nohwcrypt=1 in modprobe
[00:09] <wafflejock_> joossee: yeah I linked that one above too although it's for hostapd I think the driver also works as a normal wifi driver
[00:09] <Rory> bekks: It's AR93xx
[00:09] <silveira> joosee, according to your pci id it's one of these - AR9380, AR9381, AR9382, AR9390, AR9392
[00:09] <joossee> wafflejock_, its notndiswrapper or anything like that is it?
[00:09] <wafflejock_> joossee: it's not that but I've never used it
[00:10] <Rory> bekks: If you can squeeze a more specific ID out of it somehow it'd be very useful. But I'm off now. Night
[00:10] <joossee> peace Rory
[00:10] <Pinkamena_D> What would be the syntax to ping a windows machine in a specific domain? (dots, slashes, etc?)
[00:10] <Power1> This is what I get when I run sudo apt-get install -f http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367659/ I think I need to free some space on /boot but I cannot use apt-get purge command this is what happens when I try  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367520/
[00:10] <bekks> joossee: pastebin "dmesg" please, and provide the URL
[00:10] <wafflejock_> joossee: http://hostap.epitest.fi/hostap-driver.html
[00:10] <dalkeehon> first time here, mind if i ask you something? Since I'm quite a rookie
[00:11] <bekks> dalkeehon: Sure, just ask.
[00:11] <dalkeehon> I need to make a copy of my ubuntu system from my laptop to an external hdd disk, but i have no idea on how to do it
[00:11] <bekks> !backup | dalkeehon
[00:12] <Jordan_U> Power1: You can manually rm old kernel versions as long as you're careful, but why do you have a separate /boot/ partition anyway?
[00:12] <Power1> thats how it was setup
[00:12] <dalkeehon> mm lemme check those links and the command thanks for the quick reply
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: if you do: lspci -k    is there a subsystem mentioned?
[00:12] <Power1> How would I remove the old kernals manually?
[00:13] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, wafflejock_ hey on this hostap thread how are they getting that "Band 2: output" they quote in posts?
[00:13] <dalkeehon> thanks a lot
[00:14] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, -k returns subsystem Qualcomm Atheros Device 3112
[00:15] <silveira> joosee, how's the data throughput at 2.4ghz?
[00:15] <joossee> between 177Mb/s and 405Mb/s
[00:15] <g0th> hi
[00:16] <g0th> there are so many nvidia drivers
[00:16] <g0th> which one should I use?
[00:16] <silveira> joosee, that's not bad do you expect 5ghz to make a big difference?
[00:16] <jfklingler> none of them work, I'd just stick with Nouveau.
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> g0th what graphics card do you have?
[00:16] <joossee> silveira, meh, id like to try it?
[00:16] <dalkeehon> well I might have expressed myself badly, what i want to do is not a simple backup i want to litteraly clone the disk to a hdd that is a attached to a usb 3 atm but then plug that hdd inside the laptop (mainly cause my disk atm is not an hdd)
[00:16] <jfklingler> Just went through that routine myself
[00:17] <joossee> silveira, theres a few walls between us but router is only 20 ft away and is asus 66n running tomato so... 5ghz has better penetration? ive got antennas aswell
[00:17] <dalkeehon> if that makes any sense at all...
[00:17] <g0th> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 670] (rev a1)
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> !dd | dalkeehon
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> dalkeehon: look up dd
[00:18] <dalkeehon> ok
[00:18] <g0th> from the numbers it seems -319 is the latest
[00:18] <g0th> but there is also -319-updates??
[00:18] <g0th> I have LOTS of bugs atm
[00:18] <bekks> g0th: -updates will receive updates, while -xyz will not.
[00:18] <g0th> last time I tried the later packages didn't work
[00:18] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, wafflejock_ should i gather from lcpci that this is 9331 atheros?? the subsytem is 'Qualcomm Atheros Device 3112" ?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> g0th you want the newest driver possible
[00:18] <g0th> so atm I am with 304
[00:18] <g0th> there was a recent update right?
[00:19] <g0th> so I have a chance that 319 might work?
[00:19] <joossee> this wpn4800 is otherwise an amazing card. supported directly in 12.04 installer
[00:19] <joossee> wdn4800 sorry
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> joossee i haven't seen anything concrete to match it to a specific chip yet
[00:19] <bekks> g0th: if 319 supports your hw, yes.
[00:19] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, ok well ty for trying
[00:19] <dalkeehon> hitsujiTM0 yeah dd will do the trick if is my disk and of is the output disk, i supose they don't need to be the same sinze and the command handles all that
[00:20] <joossee> i really should just move my damn router in here
[00:20] <dalkeehon> thanks again
[00:20] <joossee> but fuck... wives
[00:20] <joossee> they are always hardware incompatible
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> dalkeehon: boot a live cd and just dd the drive ... its ok if the target is larger
[00:20] <Jordan_U> joossee: Please watch your language and topic.
[00:20] <joossee> yes sorry
[00:20] <Tangy81> Hi guys. I teach a Computer Science class and I'm curious as the best way to approach a ubuntu-run classroom management system. I'm thinking Ofris for Deep Freeze, although this doesn't freeze essential root files but only home directories. Also, in order to send out updates to the computers, how would I approach this? Should I write a bash script that SSH's into each computer and runs the updates or is there a better approach?
[00:21] <dalkeehon> hitsujiTM0 seems like a good idea...
[00:21] <FukUmist> Ubuntu needs better apps, what's the point of an OS like Ubuntu if it doesn't have useful apps
[00:21] <joossee> FukUmist, what apps are you missing?
[00:21] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: not sure I wonder if Edubuntu or a thin client architecture might be a good idea though
[00:21] <joossee> gimp, openoffice pretty much make up 95% of it
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> dalkeehon: so if you internal drive is /dev/sda   and the target is /dev/sdc    dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc
[00:22] <dalkeehon> i see
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Power1: Please pastebin the output of "uname -r" "ls /boot/" and "df -h".
[00:22] <dalkeehon> cool thanks hitsuji
 i did a project last year and a part of it did exactly what you are asking, I could share it
[00:22] <g0th> bekks: well officially all newer versions should have worked but they didn't
[00:22] <silveira> joosee, switching between 2.4 and 5ghz on my ath5k, I've noticed the 2.4ghz actually gets a stronger signal for any given distance
[00:22] <Tangy81> dalkeehon: If you wouldn't mind that would be awesome.
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Tangy81: officialy landscape is the tool for managing multiple machines like that. but its a paid for service
[00:22] <bekks> g0th: Then you did something wrong :)
[00:23] <g0th> bekks: the nvidia binary drivers are just horribly buggy/bad/slow
[00:23] <joossee> bekks, you are my last hope man! wafflejock_ please... would it help if i told you i am belgian?
[00:23] <g0th> but still better than nouveau/etc
[00:23] <Jordan_U> dalkeehon: Be *very* careful with dd, one small typo and you could lose a lot of data.
[00:23] <Tangy81> hitsujiTMO: I'm trying to stay as open source as I can.
[00:23] <g0th> I hope they either make them open source (not gonna happen) or they put some more work in them
[00:23] <bekks> g0th: And the proprietary drivers do work fine - at least here, at least for me, at least for the last ten years.
[00:24] <wafflejock_> joossee: it helps a little I'm half belgian and half pakistani :) unfortunately I just don't know enough to help more, just offering what I've found
 that's why i asked if there was a NOOB friendly program lol
[00:25] <hitsujiTMO> goth: nvidia tend to have high quality proprietary drivers... especially compared to ati. and there's a lot of improvements expected in the next kernel
[00:25]  * colstrom waves.
[00:25] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
[00:27] <colstrom> Anybody knowledgeable about /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* ? I'm sifting through man apt.conf, but I'm more than a bit fuzzy on things.
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: you should really be messing with them directly, they're ppas that you've added
[00:27] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: we had a setup like this at Purdue in our Computer Science lab in 2002, it worked well, we were based on some Sun OS though, honestly not sure exactly what it was but ran emacs and gcc which was good enough
[00:27] <g0th> bekks: yeah in same cases they work but for me there are many bugs and only version 304 at least partially worked so far, trying 319 now
[00:28] <g0th> hitsujiTMO: no, not high quality
[00:28] <Tangy81> wafflejock_: I'm not looking for anything too complicated. Just something that resets the workstation at restart and that I can send out updates too. Ubuntu would be ideal.
[00:28]  * joossee is out for a bit but thanks guys I will be back. #ubuntu rocks.
[00:28] <g0th> there are dozens of reported/confirmed bugs that are just not fixed/addressed since ages
[00:29] <bekks> g0th: Never met even one bug until now :)
[00:29] <colstrom> hitsujiTMO: Huh? I think you're talking about /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*, I'm talking about /etc/apt.conf.d/*, which is very different.
[00:29] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: yeah the thin client architecture just seems a bit appealing because this way you're only maintaining one main system really everything else is a simpler... more difficult on the front to setup but ultimately sharing RAM and stuff for the same processes and easier to keep it up to date, your thought about ssh with a cron script or something would probably work out fine too
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: sorry my apologies
[00:30] <colstrom> Specifically, I'm looking for a way to trigger a command (a logging function, in my case) before/after calling apt for upgrades.
[00:32] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: depending on your scenario perhaps setting up a machine that you manually update and then using dd to transfer the images out to all the other machines could work too, all kind of depends on how you're going to manage users home folders and the like I would think... just throwing some ideas out there
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: i think you need to make Post-Invoke and Pre-Invoke configs for that
[00:33] <Tangy81> wafflejock_: Speaking of which, I need to clone about 36 computers. Can dd do it over the network?
[00:33] <Morgawr> I've been trying to upgrade to saucy and this is what I get http://i.imgur.com/tZ8Ibea.png
[00:33] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: yes I usually use Clonezilla bootable CD to help me with the network stuff
[00:33] <colstrom> hitsujiTMO: That's what it looks like.
[00:33] <Morgawr> is there a command line program I can use to do the release upgrade instead of using a shitty GUI?
[00:34] <wafflejock_> Tangy81: think you can probably just mount and dd though hitsujiTMO can probably clarify he's better with dd
[00:34] <Tangy81> Wow, I totally forgot about the network aspect of Clonezilla.
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConf
[00:34] <bekks> Morgawr: saucy is a pre-release currently.
[00:34] <Morgawr> wasn't it released?
[00:34] <Morgawr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SaucyUpgrades
[00:34] <Morgawr> says it's been released
[00:34] <colstrom> hitsujiTMO: I've read that page. Have you? It doesn't explain pre/post invocation hooks at all.
[00:35] <bekks> Morgawr: Ah, my fault. I thought of 14.04
[00:35] <g0th> bekks: http://pastebin.com/DNXS3Brb
[00:35] <Morgawr> tryingwith do-release-upgrade now
[00:35] <bekks> g0th: Thats a list of bugs - as I said, I wasnt affected by a single bug until now.
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> Tangy81: never tried anysort of mutlicast dd to be honest. not sure if that one is possible
[00:36] <xangua> Morgawr: I've been trying to upgrade to saucy - from what¿ do you have third party repositories/programs¿
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> multicast*
[00:36] <Morgawr> http://pastebin.com/fXshFTrY this is really helpful
[00:36] <Morgawr> xangua: I have added some ppas
[00:36] <Morgawr> and I have 13.04
[00:37] <bekks> Morgawr: Remove the PPA, remove all software installed from PPA, then try upgrading.
[00:37] <g0th> bekks: you're lucky :)
[00:37] <Cepi> is this support irc channel?
[00:37] <MKCoin> Is it possible to restart xorg without logging out?
[00:37] <wafflejock_> Cepi: yes !ask
[00:37] <Morgawr> bekks: I can't remove *all software installed from ppa*, it's way too much, I'd rather just format and reinstall everything
[00:37] <g0th> trying to reboot now (will probably fail to load the driver properly)
[00:38] <bekks> MKCoin: No.
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: well from the basic examples its it hints at post and pre invoke are restricted to DPkg calls ... bit you could simply try it with Apt::Post-Invoke {"command"}; and see if that works
[00:38] <MKCoin> ok thanks bekks
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> MKCoin, unity no the shell yes
[00:39] <Cepi>  i have samsung rv 518 laptop,i have problem with problem with graphic driver  nvidia 520m
[00:39] <Morgawr> so there's no way to upgrade from raring to saucy without pretty much formatting my PC? can't I just tell ubuntu to screw it and keep going?
[00:39] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: there doesn't seem to be any vars you can pass to it, but you could try using it to trigger a script that parse the log
[00:40] <bekks> Morgawr: I told you the way without reformatting or whatever.
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Morgawr, ppa-purge is designed to remove ppa's and restore the altered apps, generally it works.
[00:40] <Morgawr> bekks: yes, and that means removing a massive chunk of stuff I depend on
[00:40] <bekks> Morgawr: Thats the way to go then.
[00:40] <Morgawr> wilee-nilee: does it just remove the ppas or also the packages installed from those ppas?
[00:40] <dwarder> what is the easyest way to install LAMP on 13.10?
[00:40] <dwarder> fasterst
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> colstrom: some actual info here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man5/apt.conf.5.html
[00:41] <dwarder> there was ncurses tool
[00:41] <bekks> dwarder: apt-get install apache2 mysql php ...
[00:41] <dwarder> nah
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> Morgawr, both, and restores the stock apps, if one has not tweaked it all with other ppa's.
[00:41] <bekks> dwarder: Thats the fastest way.
[00:41] <dwarder> another one :)
[00:41] <bekks> dwarder: Otherwise, you can use tasksel.
[00:41] <dwarder> yep this is it
[00:41] <dwarder> bekks: thanks
[00:41] <g0th> damnit
[00:41] <g0th> 319 not working
[00:42] <g0th> it is constantly flickering
[00:42] <Morgawr> wilee-nilee: that means screwing with my whole DE (using gnome 3.8 that's not in the ubuntu repos), my music software, latest releases of blender, all other stuff I really need
[00:42] <g0th> wtf is going on I have to stay on the horribly buggy 304 forever?
[00:42] <wafflejock_> dwarder: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[00:42] <wafflejock_> dwarder: note the caret
[00:42] <wafflejock_> dwarder: it needs to be there
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> Morgawr, It is your mess in the end.
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:43] <wafflejock_> Morgawr: yeah really do you need the latest?
[00:44] <Morgawr> wafflejock_: yes I do because the latest mesa drivers don't work properly on 13.04 (and before you ask, it's drivers gotten from an external ppa)
[00:44] <wafflejock_> Morgawr: what features are you hoping to get out of it? why not go with something that's stable if you so desperately need it for work (like 12.04)
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: looks like you'll be waiting till the end of the month before intel release the next mesa driver
[00:46] <g0th> the flickering repeats in a 1 second interval roughly
[00:46] <triplc> Hi all
[00:46] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: and that should hit ubuntu 13.04 as well?
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: no, that won't hit ubuntu til 14.04 at least ... but there will be a ppa fairly quickly i guess, or there's building it yourself
[00:47] <malinus> Morgawr, you will need to format your computer, sorry.
[00:47] <triplc> What is gstreamer based browser plugin? i'd like to see an alternative for geck-mediaplayer
[00:47] <bekks> malinus: thats nonsense, honestly.
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: 27th Nov is the official date for 10.0
[00:48] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: the problem is that I already have 10.0 with a dev release on a ppa and it conflicts with some wayland-server0/wayland-client0 packages that force me to uninstall pretty much my DE
[00:48] <xangua> triplc: you mean you want to use mplayer plugin for the browser¿
[00:49] <Morgawr> so what guarantee do I have that it will work at all on ubuntu 13.04?
[00:49] <wafflejock_> Morgawr: I dunno the exact situation but you can just clone your existing system then install whatever you want to test
[00:49] <g0th> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/67567/en-us
[00:49] <g0th> this tells me to use 319 but that DOESN'T work
[00:49] <g0th> it is flickering
[00:49] <triplc> xangua: looking for gstreamer-based plugin instead of gecko-mediaplayer which is mplayer based
[00:50] <g0th> is there anything I can try?
[00:50] <g0th> otherwise I am forced to reboot and use 304
[00:50] <xangua> triplc: it already is installed on default ubuntu
[00:50] <triplc> oh
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> Morgawr, What don't you dual install 13.10 set it up and see if you get all you want, you seem to "need" stuff that interferes with the 13.04 upgrade, your best answre to these is knowing the limitations of this and adapting.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: you may need specific a xserver version for it too in that case.
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: if you really need it then you could try trusty considering that will have later versions of xorg and wayland libs
[00:53] <Jordan_U> Morgawr: Why do you want OpenGL 3.2?
[00:53] <wafflejock_> Got a question here, want to setup rsync in Kubuntu to just backup some folders to a NAS, anyone suggest a front-end or should I just go with a cron job?
[00:53] <g0th> any ideas?
[00:53] <Morgawr> Jordan_U: because I'm a game developer and I am tired of using GL11
[00:53] <g0th> what I see is a constant flickering
[00:53] <Morgawr> because it's stuff from decades ago
[00:53] <g0th> maybe it is related to some compiz/etc settings?
[00:53] <bekks> wafflejock_: I'd just use a cronjob.
[00:53] <wafflejock_> bekks: k thx
[00:54] <leb> having problems getting this to compile with gcc under 12.04, can anyone help? https://gist.github.com/tildeleb/7329005
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: when is this game going to be released. because you'll be alienating the vast majority of users by going for the absolute latest
[00:54] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: OpenGL 3.2 is far far far far from "the absolute latest"
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: hehe fair enough it's not.
[00:55] <wafflejock_> hitsujiTMO: Morgawr speaks the truth August 3, 2009 crazy how much I end up learning just watching this chat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#OpenGL_4.4
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: so what opengl are you on now?
[00:56] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: 3.0
[00:57] <Morgawr> but from 3.0 to 3.2 there's a huge change in shaders and development model
[00:57] <Morgawr> and performance implications
[00:58] <wafflejock_> leb: strange probably too deep for this channel honestly... might need to look for a developer oriented channel this is more general support
[00:58] <g0th> any ideas?
[00:58] <g0th> I have constant flickering
[00:58] <g0th> I didn't find anything on the web
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> I wanna fly without assistance the car is almost a 100 yeas old how do I do this, lol
[00:58] <wafflejock_> leb: apparently something wrong in the header file fcntl.h http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man2/fcntl.2.html but no idea why
[00:58] <g0th> I have the issue since years
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: looking through the change log now. 14 extensions introduced and some items depricated. and also changed how depricated items are handled
[00:59] <g0th> GTX 670, ubuntu all nvidia drivers above 304
[00:59] <wafflejock_> have yo had a GTX 670 for years?
[00:59] <wafflejock_> I feel like that came out last year
[00:59] <leb> thanks
[01:00] <wafflejock_> g0th: unfortunatley OS X wiped out my LInux partition on my computer with the GTX 670 but I guess that's maybe a blessing in disguise, didn't have driver problems initiially
[01:00] <alloyed> leb: waitup
[01:00] <alloyed> commenting out the fcntl works for me
[01:00] <leb> back
[01:00] <leb> right but I need that
[01:01] <alloyed> maybe gcc forward declares it?
[01:01] <leb> or rather the package I am trying to compile needs it
[01:01] <wafflejock_> can you open the header file
[01:01] <leb> not sure what you mean?
[01:01] <wafflejock_> if you check line 168
[01:01] <wafflejock_> in the console type
[01:01] <leb> how would gcc know about specific kernel heaers
[01:01] <wafflejock_> nano /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/fcntl.h
[01:02] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: there are no geometry shaders on GL3.0
[01:02] <wafflejock_> leb: sorry dunno again been out of C for a minute and I never wrote stuff to work with the system so I'm not sure how these resolve
[01:02] <wafflejock_> leb: I imagine an environment variable
[01:02] <Morgawr> but yeah, I guess I will be waiting for official mesa 10.0 release and then decide my future
[01:02] <g0th> wafflejock_: I have the issues since I bought the pc
[01:03] <g0th> arg
[01:03] <g0th> and now all my settings are gone in ccsm
[01:03] <g0th> I exported them
[01:03] <g0th> then imported them
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: have you checked to see what driver is on trust now?
[01:03] <wafflejock_> g0th: huh strange I never really encountered problems.... tbh though I may have been using an older GTX card when I had Ubuntu running there
[01:03] <g0th> but now everything stopped working
[01:03] <Serus> How can I see which graphics card is in use?
[01:03] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: trust?
[01:03] <g0th> don't trust ccsm import
[01:03] <g0th> it doesn't seem to work properly
[01:04] <alloyed> leb: an include from another header? I'm not sure what would pull from asm-generic though
[01:04] <daptordarattler> Does anybody know how to unfreeze the unity display manager.... I am doing a lot of work and I dont want to loose my active windows and programs
[01:04] <leb> right I don't get it
[01:05] <daptordarattler> Its just the display that is frozen.... I can still access the virtual terminals but the unity display is completely frozen
[01:05] <daptordarattler> any help ASAP
[01:05] <leb> going to try some other channels
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: trusty* sorry
[01:05] <g0th> how do I properly save my ccsm configuration for the future?
[01:06] <g0th> it took me hours to set it up
[01:06] <g0th> now I have to redo it again and it would be nice if I could somehow save it
[01:06] <wafflejock_> leb: yeah perhaps some form of #ifdef or the like can help
[01:06] <wafflejock_> leb: not sure about the whole headers referring to other headers business really though
[01:06] <Morgawr> hitsujiTMO: you mean on the official channels?
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> g0th, In the past using a import might need a logout or reboot to get right for me, compiz is a bit finicky.
[01:07] <g0th> I don't think so
[01:07] <g0th> the settings are gone
[01:07] <g0th> not the effects
[01:07] <g0th> even in ccsm
[01:07] <g0th> the shown settings are gone
[01:07] <g0th> arg
[01:07] <g0th> hours of work
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: ahh its 9 still atm
[01:08] <Morgawr> yeah
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> nothing like an emotional response here, hehe
[01:08] <Morgawr> I have the 10.0 git release from an unofficial ppa
[01:08] <Morgawr> but I can't upgrade the intel drivers
[01:08] <Morgawr> because they depend on some packge that cannot be installed
[01:08] <Morgawr> libwayland-server0 libwayland-client0
[01:08] <Morgawr> I mean, can't be upgraded
[01:08]  * wilee-nilee looks for his copy of the worlds smallest violin
[01:08] <Morgawr> because if I try to do so, it removes all my DE and a lot of applications
[01:08] <g0th> I hate this shit
[01:08] <Morgawr> typical dependency hell
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> Morgawr: you'll prob need to try trusty tbh. it prob needs later versions or xserver related goodies
[01:09] <g0th> never touch a running system _EVER_
[01:09] <wafflejock_> !language | g0th
[01:09] <g0th> kk sorry
[01:09] <alloyed> Morgawr: are you trying to upgrade with xorg-edgers installed?
[01:09] <g0th> *frustrated*
[01:09] <wafflejock_> g0th: know the feeling and hindsight is 20-20 but just backup like crazy
[01:09] <Morgawr> alloyed: yes
[01:10] <g0th> my system is too big to backup
[01:11] <wafflejock_> never too big just need a bigger NAS
[01:11] <wafflejock_> g0th: how big is too big?
[01:12] <g0th> around 500 GB
[01:12] <alloyed> I had to do the same thing: what worked was to backup my sources.list, ppa-purge xorg-edgers and a few other ppas, upgrade, and then copy over my old ppa-list
[01:12] <wafflejock_> g0th: I've got a 1TB RAID 1 NAS, it wasn't super expensive, couple hundo
[01:13] <g0th> but 500 GB backup is too damn slow/etc
[01:13] <g0th> not a nice solution
[01:13] <wafflejock_> g0th: you should store your data on the NAS
[01:13] <alloyed> It's time-intensive, but since xorg-edgers wasn't providing anything that wasn't already in the official repos my system came out the same way it went in
[01:13] <wafflejock_> then you're just backing up your system
[01:13] <wafflejock_> which is much smaller
[01:13] <g0th> how do I reset apt?
[01:13] <g0th> i had to kill it
[01:13] <g0th> and bnow
[01:13] <g0th> I got those lock issues
[01:14] <g0th> btw while I'm writing here I have a constant 1Hz flickering of my screen
[01:14] <g0th> it so gets on my nerves
[01:14] <ianmac1> g0th, if that 500GB includes media, you can also stream that from an NFS, thereby reducing the size of your backup
[01:14] <g0th> ok got it
[01:14] <g0th> dpkg + aptitude lock removal
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> how do i start cinnamon?
[01:15] <g0th> reboot back to 304
[01:15] <g0th> sigh
[01:15] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: are you in Ubuntu?
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> doing a sudo cinnamon --replace <--- doesnt seem to work
[01:15] <FLeiXiuS> How can i detect when a monitor is powered on then turn on x?
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, yes. ubuntu 12
[01:15] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: you can generally just log out and have the options for different DEs
[01:15] <xangua> AcidRain2012: log out and select 'cinnamon' session
[01:15] <AcidRain2012> actually, it DOES work, but i still have the bar at the top of the gnome2 shell
[01:15] <ianmac1> AcidRain2012, AFAIK, you have to log out of your desktop and log into cinnamon
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> xangua, i cant do that.
[01:16] <AcidRain2012> i uninstalled everything unity related.
[01:16] <maujhsn> Are there freenode channels dedicated to "network-manger" issues? Anybody know?
[01:16] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: hmm not sure I did the same and installed KDE and it worked out
[01:16] <xangua> AcidRain2012: you mean you uninstalled lightm or what¿
[01:17] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: ended up backing up data and reinstalling with Kubuntu myself
[01:17] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, xangua, if i log out. i am brought to a black screen with nothing on it
[01:17] <lotus-blade> is it possible to install sound drivers on ubuntu server edition?
[01:17] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: may be an easier option for you too
[01:17] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, what is the KDE repo?
[01:17] <AcidRain2012> i think if i can escape from this gnome2 shell then ill be able to start cinnamon
[01:17] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: still using the Ubuntu repos
[01:17] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: just kubuntu-desktop I believe
[01:18] <wafflejock_> !kde | AcidRain2012
[01:18] <AcidRain2012> E: Unable to locate package KDE
[01:18] <AcidRain2012> oh got ya ;)
[01:18] <AcidRain2012> hang on
[01:18] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: was really just saying you may be better off backing up your data and re-installing anyhow
[01:18] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: slowdown
[01:18] <wafflejock_> haah
[01:18] <xangua> AcidRain2012: do you really know what you are doing¿
[01:18] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: yeah wasn't saying you need to install KDE
[01:19] <AcidRain2012> yeah. i reinstalled the ubuntu-desktop so i could click on my desktop.
[01:19] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: just saying you may be better off using Mint Cinammon or something
[01:19] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, anything is better than unity. and if i cant get cinnamon to run, then i might as well use kde
[01:19] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: haha kinda know the feeling, there are some things I miss but mostly happier with KDE personally
[01:20] <AcidRain2012> yeah. i heard lots of good things about kde
[01:20] <wafflejock_> it worked fine when I installed KDE side by side but there was lots of extra stuff I felt from Unity
[01:20] <AcidRain2012> and this 'gnome2' shell is very laughable. its NOTHING like the good ole gnome2
[01:20] <wafflejock_> decided to go pure on it cause I was liking it... still dig it
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, gnome2 shell?
[01:21] <wafflejock_> biggest pain with KDE has been the numpad key mappings
[01:21] <AcidRain2012> yeah, it was an option by default when i installed ubuntu 12
[01:21] <wafflejock_> long standing bug, you have to use xbindkeys to fix it
[01:21] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, should i let lightdm or kdm ?
[01:21] <AcidRain2012> as default display manager
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> AcidRain2012, There has been the gnome 3 shell with a fall back.
[01:21] <AcidRain2012> i think ill use kdm
[01:22] <AcidRain2012> :) sounds less unity
[01:22] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: honestly not entirely sure on that one
[01:22] <wafflejock_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/260094/how-to-remove-unity-and-unity-2d-and-install-kde-in-ubuntu-12-10-64-bit < basically followed somethign like that
[01:23] <wafflejock_> I'm on lightdm but I'm not sure which is a better choice
[01:23] <AcidRain2012> but ya, that whole little greeting screen where i pick my DE. its not there no more. lol
[01:23] <wafflejock_> AcidRain2012: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987265
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> ignorance does seem to bliss, wish I had that
[01:24] <ianmac1> Does Ubuntu have any iTunes support yet?
[01:24] <AcidRain2012> wafflejock_, something told me chosing KDM was a bad idea. lol
[01:24] <AcidRain2012> too late now though
[01:24] <xangua> ianmac1: you mean¿
[01:24] <bekks> ianmac1: Nothing but Windows and MacOSX has iTunes support. Blame it on Apple.
[01:25] <ianmac1> bekks, ah, ok
[01:25] <AcidRain2012> ianmac1, u can find many itunes clones for ubuntu
[01:25] <AcidRain2012> they dont look as fancy. but they work
[01:25] <wafflejock_> ianmac1: yeah you're not going to find "iTunes" but you can make it work to some degree
[01:25] <bekks> AcidRain2012: And non of them works for saving, restoring, updating an Apple device.
[01:25] <ianmac1> AcidRain2012, Oh? Have any idea wher eI would find those for Ubuntu?
[01:25] <ianmac1> bekks, yeah, that's what I need
[01:25] <AcidRain2012> ianmac1, check software center
[01:26] <AcidRain2012> bekks, is right though. they dont offer any of that
[01:26] <kostkon> ianmac1, which ipod?
[01:26] <bekks> ianmac1: Dont search then, you will not find any.
[01:26] <AcidRain2012> ianmac1, i would suggest an android phone to replace your apple device
[01:26] <ianmac1> bekks, yeah, that's what I needpad 4 and mini
[01:26] <bekks> ianmac1: Then use Windows or MacOSX.
[01:27] <ianmac1> AcidRain2012, I'm an ex android dev, dropped it for a reason
[01:27] <wafflejock_> ianmac1: yeah can run linux in virtual box or dual boot
[01:27] <bekks> ianmac1++ :)
[01:27] <ianmac1> :)
[01:27] <AcidRain2012> ianmac1, yea. androi dis starting to be alot like apple ;)
[01:27] <AcidRain2012> i dont like it
[01:27] <bekks> ianmac1: Beware of vbox when trying to restore an Apple device. That particular thing doesnt work, you need a native Windows.
[01:27] <wafflejock_> oh yeah I mean putting ubuntu or linux in the vbox
[01:28] <bekks> ianmac1: And again, blame it on Apple for using weirdo multi-personality USB devices.
[01:28] <ianmac1> bekks, exactly
[01:28] <AcidRain2012> cant wait to reboot. lol.
[01:29] <ianmac1> bekks, yeah, I may dual boot Win and Ubuntu
[01:29] <bekks> ianmac1: Thats the way to go, yes.
[01:30] <ianmac1> But, I've been using Ubuntu since 5.04 (loved Dapper!), so using another OS is going to seem strange. /Haven't touched Windows since Win 98SE
[01:30] <bekks> ianmac1: Put iTunes in Autostart in Windows then - one OS, one task, one tool. :D
[01:31] <ianmac1> bekks, excellent idea, don't wanna be there long
[01:31] <wafflejock_> ianmac1: you'll probably be relatively happy if you go with Win7, but 8 is pretty wonky without a touchscreen, supposedly 8.1 fixes some of it but haven't updated mine yet
[01:31] <mlz> good luck dual win 8 and linux, never worked for me
[01:32] <mlz> just went with full ubuntu install
[01:32] <wafflejock_> I had win 8 with ubuntu
[01:32] <wafflejock_> then I wiped out win 8 and put it in a virtual box
[01:32] <wafflejock_> it's space in the universe is slowly being reduced :)
[01:33] <PDilyard> on 13.10, is there a way to remove the Keyboard indicator. I googled it and found someone that said "System Settings > Language > Show keyboard indicator" but that option didnt exist
[01:34] <PDilyard> nevermind, i found it under "Text Entry"
[01:34] <mlz> text entry settings toremove
[01:34] <PDilyard> mlz: yep, got it
[01:35] <mlz> no worries little slow on the typing
[01:35] <PDilyard> haha its cool
[01:43] <quinnwizard> anyone else having the problem with the cpu fan running really high on 13.10?
[01:45] <chull> my husband  has two brother printers and a scanner, the scanner and his new brother printer work fine together, but he's switched to the other printer, and now his ubuntu 13.04 isn't seeing the scanner – with either gscan2pdf v1.0.4 or Simple Scan. I'm not good at debugging this, please help?
[01:45] <chull> hi Jonathan1cClare :)
[01:45] <chull> hello lotus-blade
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> quinnwizard, You have lm-sensors installed? state the actual issue along with what you have tried IE details.
[01:46] <lotus-blade> hello chull
[01:46] <chull> hello wilee-nilee
[01:46] <lotus-blade> is it possible to install sound drivers on ubuntu server edition?
[01:47] <chull> i need some help with getting a scanner to work with a different printer on 23.04?
[01:47] <quinnwizard> wilee-nilee, just installed 13.10 64bit from the live cd.  It installed completely fine and after the first reboot, of course there were updates.  After update, I get a kernel panic (flashing caps key) and then the processor starting heating up quick.
[01:47] <chull> quinnwizard, ouches. did you get a good checksum on the install?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> !lm-sensors | quinnwizard
[01:48] <quinnwizard> wilee-nilee/ubottu, i am booting on the live cd now and will look at the crash logs.  i will then attempt to install the lmsensors package and get back with you guys.  thx
[01:48] <quinnwizard> ubottu, and yes, got a good md5
[01:49] <chull> quinnwizard, ah glad you did, good luck with the report
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> quinnwizard, kernel panic can cause anything, has this happened evrytime on thatb kernel?
[01:50] <quinnwizard> 3 times.  with this kernel.  of course, i just installed it 30 minutes ago.  the last time it wouldn't even get to the ubuntu splash screen and recovery didn't work either.
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> quinnwizard, Ah could be a bad update, you do any tweaking with say graphics drivers before the update?
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> kernel update that us
[01:51] <quinnwizard> and for anyone interested, 13.10 is being installed on a HP pavilion dm4-1160u with stock hardware of i5 processor, onboard graphics, and 4gb ram.
[01:51] <quinnwizard> The only thing I did was change the appearance settings from the stock ubuntu format.  then the update message poped up and i installed, restarted, then the panics started.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> quinnwizard, Appearance settings the unity panel hide, wallpaper and assorted?
[01:53] <quinnwizard> i believe that once i get into the system again, i am going to remove the linux headers and then do an update-grub.
[01:53] <PDilyard> should i use the open-source or the proprietary AMD/ATI drivers?
[01:54] <PDilyard> or is it more of a machine-specific question?
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, the general consensus here is open source, unless you have to use the proprietary which wont follow kernel upgrades at the least. We do see proprietary drivers in the additional drivers on occasion though.
[01:56] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ok cool, i'll stick with open-source. thanks
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> those I think follow kernel upgrades however
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, mainly know how to fix it if you tweak it. ;)
[02:01] <TheyTookErJobs> Question - can I get some ideas of what your top cpu usage says for your machine? I am running a machine with 8 core's, an ssd, and 24gigs of ram and my top only shows 3 cpu's idling around 1.0 usually. I don't run alot of programs just three chrome windows, kvirc and libre.
[02:01] <TheyTookErJobs> I would think the cpu usage for such a beast machine would be much lower
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookErJobs, generally most OS will use more if the hardware is there, and less if not.
[02:02] <quinnwizard> theytookerjobs: that is a heck of a machine.
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookErJobs, donate some of that to seti.
[02:02] <TheyTookErJobs> Yup, triple monitors and beautiful :) I bought it to run 10-15 VM's at a time
[02:03] <TheyTookErJobs> butttt with such high cpu averages without a single vm running.....
[02:03] <TheyTookErJobs> what's the max it can go to? 2.0?
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookErJobs, unity runs at about 300 cpu on my netbook and 791 gnome shell on my dualcore with more ram.
[02:04] <fishduck> hi, how do I get rid of the ubuntu spyware that's installed by default? Is the surveillance spyware installed in Precise?
[02:04] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm maybe I need to investigate the differences between the kbuntu type other flavors....
[02:05] <TheyTookErJobs> I just don't know how to accurately gaugage at what percentage my resource utilization is at
[02:05] <TheyTookErJobs> I went 100% ubuntu because I could just run windows in a VM If I really need it
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookErJobs, And how does that make you feel?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[02:06] <quinnwizard> theytookerjobs: i am 98% ubuntu.  i still have an older minipc running 7 for extreme cases of propritery software.
[02:06] <TheyTookErJobs> hah, well, it's been a battle :) I am studying for my LPIC and would like to eventually go into my RHCE. Windows Admins are a dim a dozen
[02:06] <kostkon> TheyTookErJobs, my netbook, just 1 ht cpu has 0.5-0.69, and im running regular ubuntu
[02:07] <gimmic> fishduck: it's pretty easy to find in system settings
[02:07] <TheyTookErJobs> Yeah I really need to figure out how to get my cpu usage down.
[02:07] <fishduck> gimmic: what do I search for? "ubuntu spyware"?
[02:07] <benjabean1> hello all!
[02:07] <kostkon> TheyTookErJobs, investigate more. something is eating your cpu. e.g. chrome, especially flash sites.
[02:07] <gimmic> fishduck: I don't know but I hope you can figure it out.
[02:07] <gimmic> fishduck: becauase it really just seems like troll bullshit and if you can't figure it out maybe you deserve to keep it enabled
[02:07] <TheyTookErJobs> What's the best way to get a list of programs running sorted by cpu usage?
[02:08] <kostkon> TheyTookErJobs, install htop, press F6
[02:08] <TheyTookErJobs> sweet :) Yeah I was just googling System Monitoring tools but that looks like a winner
[02:08] <fishduck> gimmic: stfu. Every time someone points out a deficit in some software on irc, some idiot has to go "troll troll!!!11". Please shut the cake hole (say nothing), or be helpful. But DON'T feed the troll.
[02:09] <kostkon> fishduck, calm down
[02:09] <fishduck> kostkon: kind of tired on the troll hyper phobia going around. Well, I'll just not feed the gimmic troll and be quiet.
[02:10] <fishduck> s/on/at/
[02:10] <IdleOne> !noads
[02:10] <IdleOne> hmm
[02:10] <TheyTookErJobs> chrome is def eating most of the cpu. Does firefox run better on ubuntu than it does on windows? Is Firefox really what most ubuntu users use?
[02:10] <gimmic> seriously dude I answered your question
[02:10] <kostkon> fishduck, anyway, use 12.04 if you don't like the new scope
[02:11] <kostkon> scopes*
[02:11] <fishduck> gimmic: you insulted me hard. Let's not do that anymore. Anyway, let's just cut that discussion.
[02:11] <gimmic> it is in system settings youfe the one with smartass spyware bits
[02:11] <fishduck> kostkon: is there a way to see what version you have?
[02:11] <kostkon> TheyTookErJobs, try installing adblock if you don't care about ads, that will get rid of all those nasty flash ads
[02:12] <fishduck> uname -a gives me a name, but "not" version
[02:12] <benjabean1> recently, when i installed google-chrome-beta, replacing google-chrome-stable. but when i did so, the Unity icon for Chrome took the title of the tab i had open when i installed chrome-beta. How do i get the title of my Unity launcher back?
[02:12] <kostkon> TheyTookErJobs, or the equivalent in chrome
[02:12] <gimmic> cat etc/issues fish
[02:12] <IdleOne> fishduck: lsb_release -a
[02:12] <fishduck> thanks
[02:12] <kostkon> fishduck, or lsb_release -a
[02:13] <fishduck> is there any spyware in the 12.04, that's not in the newer versions?
[02:13] <benjabean1> recently, when i installed google-chrome-beta, replacing google-chrome-stable. but when i did so, the Unity icon for Chrome took the title of the tab i had open when i installed chrome-beta. How do i get the title of my Unity launcher back?
[02:15] <IdleOne> fishduck: it isn't spyware
[02:15] <IdleOne> !adlens | fishduck
[02:15] <fishduck> thanks
[02:15] <chull> i need some help with getting a scanner to work with a different printer on 23.04?
[02:16] <kostkon> fishduck, actually you can disable it in system settings -> privacy
[02:16] <chull> 13.04 i mean
[02:16] <kostkon> fishduck, just one click away
[02:16] <benjabean1> chull: what seems to be the issue?
[02:17] <chull> benjabean1, the scanner worked fine with the new brother printer, but switching back to the older one.. it is crashing when we try to scan
[02:18] <benjabean1> sorry, i don't know how to fix those kinds of issues; i just asked on the slight chance that i could
[02:18] <chull> benjabean1, thanks a lot, really.
[02:18] <benjabean1> np
[02:18] <chull> i wish i could figuire it out, too
[02:20] <sam113101> why do my monitors keep turning off?
[02:21] <chull> i'm not sure what is different between brothers printer softeare for mfc-j6710dw and mfc-j435wj
[02:21] <chull> sam113101, do they come back on when you press a key?
[02:22] <sam113101> chull: yes
[02:22] <sam113101> or move my mouse
[02:22] <sam113101> they turn off when I lock my computer
[02:22] <IdleOne> that is a power saving feature
[02:23] <abaddon> Hey guys, ok, how does one pass an argument when running a command? For instance: xfce4-terminal mc and then open a folder to the location?
[02:24] <abaddon> I've tried xfce4-terminal mc Music/ but it wont open midnight commander to the folder
[02:24]  * tallis [MP³] Grupo Sambô - Estação Sambô - 11 - José.mp3 ( 4m 57s ) [tls]
[02:25] <sam113101> IdleOne: how do I disable it?
[02:25] <sam113101> doesn't seem enabled
[02:25] <glitch3d> is ubuntu the best linux distro and always will be?
[02:25] <sam113101> glitch3d: that's subjective
[02:26] <sam113101> what matters is what is best for you
[02:26] <IdleOne> sam113101: check the settings for monitor
[02:26] <glitch3d> i c thanks
[02:26] <sam113101> IdleOne: I did
[02:26] <sam113101> I checked everything
[02:26] <sam113101> brightness and lock, displays, power
[02:27] <sam113101> everything is disabled
[02:27] <sam113101> they shouldn't turn off
[02:27] <sam113101> YET THEY DO
[02:27] <IdleOne> don't know dude
[02:27] <sam113101> ;_;
 glitch3d: that's subjective... <-- best answer if anyone would ask me about distros haha
[02:29] <abaddon> Hey guys, ok, how does one pass an argument when running a command? For instance: xfce4-terminal mc and then open a folder to the location?
[02:29] <abaddon> I've tried xfce4-terminal mc Music/ but it wont open midnight commander to the folder
[02:29] <arityfn> Whats a pretty good pdf reader for linux? specially for ebook reading.
[02:29] <abaddon> arityfn: Calibre
[02:29] <abaddon> arityfn: or fbreader
[02:30] <sam113101> arityfn: evince
[02:30] <abaddon> arityfn: For pdf Evince is good
[02:30] <arityfn> *gulps* I am looking for something similar to sumatra, light and with plenty of features.
[02:30] <maujhsn> cyphermox Like to introduce myself!
[02:31] <Level15> hi, all. i have 12.04 server up and running. It comes w/ php 5.3, but my app requires php 5.4 or superior. I tried these instructions but they also installed newer apache which broke, among other things, the svn published via apache. Any hints on how to *just* install newer php but no other mods to system? Thanks.
[02:31] <abaddon> arityfn: Is it really pdf'f you're looking to read? Or actually ebooks like epubs, mobi' etc?
[02:31] <arityfn> abaddon, pdfs mostly
[02:32] <abaddon> arityfn: Evince is really good then
[02:32] <sam113101> abaddon: xfce4-terminal -x mc Music/
[02:32] <leeping> Hi there, is there a way for me to get MD5 checksums of my packages / installed libraries to see whether they have been modified?
[02:33] <intrader> Anyone, the resume from suspend bring up the login as it should but then the screen hangs
[02:33] <arityfn> abaddon, thanks
[02:34] <intrader> Anyone, this is 12.04.3
[02:34] <abaddon> sam113101: DX OMGJHYGFGDDFGGHJKHGFDFGHJK
[02:34] <abaddon> sam113101: Wow....thx....
[02:34] <sam113101> abaddon: np
[02:34] <leeping> Figured it out. Thanks :)
[02:34] <abaddon> arityfn: np, hope you like
[02:35] <Level15> or better, any directions on how to get php 5.4 on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:36] <Wicked-Nuts> hi
[02:36] <abaddon> Level15: you could try looking for a ppa for php5? Then upgrade the program?
[02:37] <Level15> abaddon: any ppa you can recommend besides the one that broke my svn?
[02:37] <abaddon> Level15: Bwahahahahahahaha What did you use?
[02:37] <Wicked-Nuts> does anyone know how to bypass anti virus with msf payload
[02:38] <Wicked-Nuts> microsoft antivirus
[02:38] <Wicked-Nuts> ?
[02:39] <abaddon> Level15: no...seriously?
[02:39] <Level15> yup
[02:39] <Level15> it took me all the way up to 5.5, apache 2.4 and screwed up my svn pretty bad
[02:39] <Level15> well, just the http publication of svn, of course
[02:39] <abaddon> Level15: no, what was the ppa though?
[02:40] <sejg> @Wicked-Nuts: Check out - https://community.rapid7.com/community/metasploit/blog/2012/12/14/the-odd-couple-metasploit-and-antivirus-solutions
[02:40] <Level15> abaddon: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5
[02:40] <abaddon> Level15: Did you use oldstable or the newer one?
[02:41] <abaddon> Level15: They have two versions so maybe try the other one?
[02:42] <Level15> i read somewhere it was better
[02:42] <Level15> hm, let me check on that
[02:42] <Level15> i just hope it won't screw my stuff up again :P
[02:42] <abaddon> Level15: Whach are you trying now? Make sure to remove the one that breaks your system too
[02:42] <maheanuu> I am having a problem connecting to a site that I have been using for several years now.  Starting last Sunday I can no longer connect to a site as it times out with the following error message  "Error loading stream: Could not connect to server"
[02:43] <abaddon> Level15: Then purge php5
[02:43] <abaddon> Level15: Also, are you installing this through cli or Synaptic?
[02:43] <Level15> cli
[02:44] <mdt87> hi at all
[02:44] <abaddon> Level15: Ahh.... You could try sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests install php5
[02:44] <abaddon> Level15: Or whatever the pkg name is you use to get php
[02:44] <mdt87> hi abaddon
[02:45] <Level15> thanks, abaddon, for your suggestions
[02:45] <mdt87> i need help about a module
[02:46] <abaddon> Level15: Np, the command i gave you should just install php, none of the pkgs recommended or suggested. The prog still works it's just leaner
[02:46] <abaddon> mdt87: yoo
[02:46] <mdt87> yo
[02:46] <abaddon> mdt87: ??
[02:46] <mdt87> sorry i'm a newbie
[02:46] <abaddon> mdt87: Sup? Chu need?
[02:46] <kostkon> !details| mdt87
[02:47] <Level15> abaddon: ok, thanks a lot
[02:47] <maheanuu> I did an Uninstall for Firefox and then did a re install and again installed Flash today , but nothing seems to work to get me on my streaming news site
[02:47] <mdt87> kostkon sure
[02:47] <mdt87> sorry
[02:47] <abaddon> Level15: I hope it works =p
[02:48] <jose> guys, I currently have the alx graphics driver enabled, but would like to use nouveau. How can I change the settings to use nouveau?
[02:48] <abaddon> mdt87: Sup? What's your prob?
[02:48] <zerocircle> Hi is there any tool in ubuntu which can create auto generate subtitles from audio or video???
[02:48] <zerocircle> or opensource
[02:48] <mdt87> so i have a problem with xbmcbuntu (ubuntu with xbmc), i'm running the latest version of xbmcbuntu, when i try to use my dvb card that doesn't work, but if i load manually the module "dvb-usb-technisat-usb2" the card works correctly
[02:49] <mdt87> so i just want to know how to load this module at system startup?
[02:49] <abaddon> mdt87: You'll need to find your session manager
[02:49] <abaddon> mdt87: then add that line as a startup option
[02:50] <mdt87> it's not that simple because xbmc miss all this utilities
[02:51] <abaddon> mdt87: can you open a term and type ll .xsession
[02:51] <mdt87> oh ok
[02:51] <abaddon> mdt87: hmmm, can you do the ll?
[02:51] <pogiako> hello
[02:52] <pogiako> guys i need to send some file via bluetooth
[02:52] <mdt87> wait a min i'm on windows now i'll restart on ubuntu and i'll see
[02:52] <pogiako> where do i get an adapter
[02:52] <mdt87> brb
[02:54] <Level15> abaddon: yeah, that worked, allright
[02:54] <Level15> thanks
[02:54] <GZA-Genius> any1 here have any experience with relinux?
[02:54] <abaddon> I've not worked with xbmcubuntu. There are methods to adding autostart commands. It's just a little diffrent. XD If there isn't a file called .xsession we can try installing xfce4-session which you could use then to manage the session and add the line to xfce4-session
[02:54] <abaddon> Level15: Sarcasem?
[02:54] <abaddon> Level15: oh, ok
[02:54] <Level15> abaddon: no, it did work :P
[02:55] <Level15> hahah
[02:55] <abaddon> Level15: Glad to help. =] cheers!!
[02:55] <Level15> sorry abt that :P
[02:55] <Level15> ok
[02:55] <Level15> PHP 5.4 and svn working
[02:55] <Level15> thanks for your help
[02:55] <abaddon> Level15: Woohoo!!
[02:56] <abaddon> mdt87: I've not worked with xbmcubuntu. There are methods to adding autostart commands. It's just a little diffrent. XD If there isn't a file called .xsession we can try installing xfce4-session which you could use then to manage the session and add the line to xfce4-session
[02:56] <Level15> cya guys later
[02:57] <Wicked-Nuts> can someone take me on as a apprentice
[02:58] <abaddon> mdt87: Mind, to install it you need to type sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests install xfce4-session
[02:58] <freetown2> anybody got preseed examples for wifi?
[02:58] <abaddon> Wicked-Nuts: To learn what?
[02:59] <zykotick9> jose: alx?  are you using ati or nvidia graphics card?
[02:59] <Wicked-Nuts> i wanna learn how to hack websites
[02:59] <Wicked-Nuts> and everything else
[02:59] <abaddon> Wicked-Nuts: look to hackthissite.org
[02:59] <jose> zykotick9: it's an nvidia graphics card, though the nvidia drivers won't install
[02:59] <Wicked-Nuts> so you up for it
[02:59] <Unicorn_> how do you customix the gru in 12.10 ubuntu
[02:59] <ukd1> I'm having some issues with packages being installed but not being 'seen' by dpkg / apt; https://gist.github.com/ukd1/23edecd34fc36c1a101a - could anyone help?
[02:59] <ztane> 9863 root      20   0 13.0g 3.9g 1.8g S  96.1 101.0  85:27.63 packagekitd
[03:00] <ztane> this is the second time this happens...
[03:00] <abaddon> Wicked-Nuts: Sorry, nope. try these sites though.   http://www.hackthissite.org/pages/index/index.php
[03:00] <ztane> kubuntu 1310
[03:00] <Unicorn_> does anybody know how to customiz the gru in 12.10 ubuntu
[03:00] <zykotick9> jose: what is alx driver then?  if you don't have nvidia propritary, you should be using nouveau by default.  "lspci -k" what does the VGA say it's using right now for a driver?
[03:01] <abaddon> Wicked-Nuts: https://www.hellboundhackers.org/
[03:01] <Unicorn_>  ?
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> Wicked-Nuts, You up for prison, you claim this on a worldwide channel with your IP seen by everyone.
[03:01] <jose> zykotick9: I uninstalled all nvidia drivers, installed nouveau and lspci -k shows alx
[03:01] <xangua> abaddon: Wicked-Nuts wrong channel, wrong network
[03:01] <abaddon> wilee-nilee: http://www.livehacking.com/
[03:01] <zykotick9> jose: what is alx?  i've never heard of it...
[03:01] <jose> zykotick9: me either, question is how can we turn it to nouveau
[03:02] <abaddon> zykotick9: True...
[03:02] <ztane> wilee-nilee: fast track to martyrdom
[03:02] <gimmic> he just wanted to be zerocool guys
[03:02] <gimmic> why you gotta stifle his l33t
[03:03] <abaddon> xangua: True...if he really wants to learn he'll look to the links I gave
[03:03] <abaddon> gimmic: loolzz
[03:03] <zykotick9> jose: is this a Alienware system?
[03:04] <jose> zykotick9: nope, it's a lenovo ideapad y410p
[03:04] <abaddon> gimmic: l33t $934k
[03:04] <abaddon> gimmic: I suck at it
[03:05] <zykotick9> jose: i have no idea then, sorry...  i'd think nouveau would be used by default?!  do you currently have an xorg.conf file and 2, have you removed the blacklist for nouveau the nvidia proprietary adds?
[03:05] <mdt> i'm back with a problem :(
[03:05] <abaddon> mdt87: back?
[03:05] <jose> zykotick9: oooh, the blacklist may be it, any idea on how to remove it?
[03:05] <abaddon> mdt: Sup?
[03:05] <zykotick9> jose: off the top of my head, no.  firing up search engine ;)
[03:05] <mdt> ls: cannot access .xsession: No such file or directory
[03:06] <abaddon> mdt: oh, figured,lol
[03:06] <abaddon> XD
[03:06] <mdt> :D
[03:06] <abaddon> mdt: try and type sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends --no-install-suggests install xfce4-session
[03:06] <zykotick9> jose: try /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[03:06] <jose> yeah, just found that too
[03:06] <jose> will try in a while
[03:06] <abaddon> mdt: this will act as a session mnger
[03:07] <mdt> interesting
[03:07] <mdt> thanks
[03:07] <abaddon> mdt: if it breaks anything then just remove it. Anyway, once installed, type xfce4-session
[03:07] <abaddon> mdt: then add that entry
[03:08] <ccbn4> I made some edits to ~/.Xdefaults to use Solarized color schemes in urxvtc. The colors are all wrong at startup, but after running 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults' results in different (expected and desired) colors on the next urxvtc instance i open.
[03:08] <mdt> i've wrote xfce4-session but i get some errors like this "(nm-applet:2871): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-widgets.css:119:16: Not using units is deprecated. Assuming 'px'."
[03:08] <abaddon> mdt: once added, restart and see if it fixes ayour issue
[03:08] <zykotick9> ccbn4: you probably need to be using .Xdefaults-$YOURHOSTNAME
[03:09] <abaddon> mdt: does it run though?
[03:09] <ccbn4> zykotick9: my other settings take effect, like enabling tabs and whatnot, but the colors change after running 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults', which is strange because it is the same file that's getting loaded when X starts
[03:09] <jarray52> I'm looking at the Ubuntu downloads, and the 32 bit version states for machines with less than 2gb of RAM. Can't the 32 bit version support upto 4gb?
[03:10] <zykotick9> ccbn4: as example, my computer is called "moss" so my .Xdefaults is .Xdefaults-moss
[03:10] <abaddon> mdt: did you use gksu xfce4-session?
[03:10] <xangua> jarray52: yes, it can
[03:10] <mdt> abaddon i think not because at the end says "xfsettingsd: Another clipboard manager is already running."
[03:10] <zykotick9> ccbn4: i dunno, i wouldn't expect ANY of the setting to work?
[03:11] <abaddon> mdt: ...so nothing launches?
[03:11] <maheanuu> Anyone here who can possibly steer me to where I can find out why my streaming news sites are not allowing me to open them.  I am running Ubuntu 12.04.2 and running the latest Firefox with Adobe Flash installed
[03:11] <abaddon> mdt: huh...well...remove it then.
[03:11] <mdt> no nothing
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, show us one?
[03:11] <mdt> ok
[03:11] <abaddon> mdt: OK...darn...well. Remove that and after that type touch .xsession
[03:12] <abaddon> mdt: then type nano .xsession
[03:12] <maheanuu> I cannot get rt.com to open all i get is an error message Error Loading Stream:Could Not Connect To Server
[03:12] <abaddon> mdt: then add that line you said worked
[03:12] <abaddon> mdt: after that reboot
[03:12] <mdt> abaddon there is another problem XD
[03:12] <abaddon> see if it works,lool
[03:12] <zykotick9> ccbn4: is urxvtc a typo, or is the c something different from regular urxvt?
[03:12] <abaddon> mdt: uhhh??
[03:12] <Nothing_Much> is there an alternative way to get ubuntu to run sgx 544 graphics?
[03:13] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, that last was meant for you
[03:13] <abaddon> mdt: OK?
[03:13] <abaddon> mdt: It is?
[03:13] <mdt> bash: .xsession: command not found
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, Opens here install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:13] <xangua> maheanuu: the only 'stream' i found is "Given the stream of NSA spy revelations since June, what impact will further leaks have?"
[03:14] <abaddon> mdt: What did you type?
[03:14] <zero_coder> hey smartmon tools is showing my harddisk is showing my harddisk failed self-assesment test
[03:14] <ccbn4> zykotick9: urxvtc is part of urxvtd which is a daemon that runs client terminals to save memory. I think I just needed to move the color definitions to ~/.Xresources though
[03:14] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, ok where are the extras located?
[03:14] <mdt> "sudo .xsession"
[03:14] <abaddon> mdt: OHH, LOL
[03:14] <ztane> :P
[03:14] <zykotick9> ccbn4: interesting... thanks.
[03:14] <mdt> i said i'm a newbie
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, In a terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:15] <abaddon> mdt: ok, type touch .xsession
[03:15] <abaddon> not sudo
[03:15] <mdt> done
[03:15] <abaddon> mdt: it's k dude. I was too
[03:15] <mdt> now nano .xsession?
[03:15] <abaddon> mdt: ok, now type nano .xsession
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, Normally the adobe flash is loaded with that, you will get a prompt for ms fonts accept or refuse.
[03:15] <abaddon> mdt: then add your line
[03:16] <mdt> i can add a line if the file is empty?
[03:16] <abaddon> mdt: ACTUALLY, TYPE: exec yourline &
[03:16] <abaddon> mdt: clearly your line is that line you lod me of
[03:16] <abaddon> mdt: yes
[03:16] <mdt> ok
[03:16] <mdt> let's see
[03:17] <Guest36522> Hey all. Is there anyone here that can help me get qt5 to work with codeblocks? Or is there a more appropriate channel for this?
[03:17] <zykotick9> mdt: i assume you are trying to start something automatically?!  be sure to put & after your command(s) example "grekllm &"
[03:17] <abaddon> mdt: Yes, add exec blah &
[03:17] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, am downloading and installing now, thanks I am on a small island and am one of a very few using linux and all others are only french speakers, and I am using my french as a secondary language and not a technicial one so I do have problems
[03:18] <abaddon> mdt: zykotick9 is correct
[03:18] <zykotick9> not that it matters, but s/grekllm/gkrellm/
[03:18] <mdt> done "exec dvb-usb-technisat-usb2 &"
[03:18] <mdt> ops
[03:18] <abaddon> mdt: ok restart and see if it works
[03:18] <zykotick9> mdt: i doubt you need exec there!?
[03:19] <abaddon> zykotick9: mdt : ohh? you don't?
[03:19] <zykotick9> s/doubt you need/don't think you should have/
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, If it helps I know virtually know one using linux and figured all this out myself, using the ubuntu forums and the irc.
[03:20] <abaddon> zykotick9: Why don't you need exec?
[03:20] <mdt> i've added that now
[03:20] <mdt> "exec modprobe dvb-usb-technisat-usb2 &   "
[03:20] <mdt> that's right?
[03:20] <abaddon> mdt: zykotick9 says you don't likely need exec infront
[03:20] <zykotick9> mdt: there is a more proper way to add a module to default boot
[03:21] <abaddon> mdt: As i understand it to be yes. but zykotick9 says otherswise with exedc being infront
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, However that's the general way I roll. ;)
[03:21] <mdt> zykotick9 if you know any other safe way to that please tell me
[03:21] <zykotick9> mdt: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[03:22] <mdt> uhm
[03:22] <mdt> interesting
[03:22] <abaddon> zykotick9: mdt : Wellp, you always learn somthing new. XD
[03:23] <abaddon> mdt: Sorry, looks like his method is better
[03:23] <mdt> WTF!!?!??!?!
[03:23] <ianmac1> My brightness settings won't stick. I have set the brightness in System Settings > Brightness & Lock but it returns to the default upon reboot. (Ubuntu 13.10, Toshiba Satelite, dual core Intel Celeron, 64 bit)
[03:23] <abaddon> mdt: mdt ??
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> !language | mdt
[03:24] <mdt> ok sorry
[03:24] <zykotick9> mdt: i'm not 100% sure if your .xsession method would even work.  that does require root privs to load modules, not sure Xorg startup would have that power (it "might", but i doubt it)
[03:24] <mdt> but i've opened the modules file
[03:24] <abaddon> mdt: ubottu is a bot
[03:24] <mdt> and i see this at the startup
[03:24] <mdt> "<pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">dvb-usb-technisat-usb2</pre>"
[03:25] <abaddon> mdt does it have a # infront?
[03:25] <mdt> no it doesn't
[03:25] <zykotick9> mdt: i could be wrong, but i doubt that is suppose to look like that...
[03:25] <abaddon> mdt: hur hur hur
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> ianmac1, Same here with the gnome shell, what desktop?
[03:25] <abaddon> mdt: Maybe...then again...maybe it is
[03:26] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, Finished that and still the same error message, it times out and nothing more......
[03:26] <Nothing_Much> is there an alternative way to get ubuntu to run sgx 544 graphics?
[03:26] <ianmac1> wilee-nilee, I haven't changed anything so I assume it's Unity
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, You just using the link you gave, how are you accessing it?
[03:26] <ianmac1> wilee-nilee, This is a laptop. Is this perhaps a bug wrt laptops?
[03:26] <abaddon> mdt: zykotick9 I've got mine working fine???
[03:27] <abaddon> zykotick9: my .xsession actually unloads a module
[03:27] <abaddon> zykotick9: still...
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> ianmac1, Not sure to be honest, the web will tell you if others have seen this and files a bug.
[03:28] <abaddon> mdt:  zykotick9  can we just try the .xsession method?
[03:28] <mdt> i think it's better XD
[03:28] <xangua> wilee-nilee: ianmac1 wasn't this a general bug for gnome3¿
[03:28] <maheanuu> I am too new to Ubuntu to really know how to trbleshoot this one I think that my problem might lie in Firefox, and so I uninstalled it and then re installed it and also Flash, just ran the sudo you gave me and it completed should I re start firefox and try it again?
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> xangua, Not sure let me looksie.
[03:28] <ianmac1> xangua, Not sure, I've never used gnome 3.. went frpom gnome 2.x to unity
[03:29] <abaddon> mdt: OK, so that's all been set with .xsession?
[03:29] <mdt> i know where is the problem
[03:29] <mdt> i know
[03:29] <mdt> i'm n00b
[03:30] <mdt> that's the problem XD
[03:30] <zykotick9> maheanuu: just an fyi, but uninstall/reinstall is "windows" troubleshoot, it almost never works in gnu/linux...  just sayin'
[03:30] <abaddon> mdt: We all are in some ways. I've got a lot a work to improve and it just takes time,lool
[03:31] <mdt> i'm adjusting modules file because i've broken it yesterday
[03:31] <mdt> tryng to add a module in that file i've opened it with a text editor like Gwrite
[03:31] <abaddon> mdt: ???
[03:31] <abaddon> mdt: errrrr...ok
[03:31] <mdt> so it added that lines "<pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; ">loop</pre>"
[03:32] <abaddon> mdt: um...I'm betting you need to run that with sudo or gksu.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> I am seeing the brightness not working with nvidia drivers, a search for a not the same setup on the reboot I'm not sure the google foo for that.
[03:32] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, I am accessing it by Firefox and going to rt.com/and on to the live radio button
[03:32] <abaddon> Editing root files requires root priviligs
[03:32] <ianmac1> wilee-nilee, it appears we're not alone, google is full of this issue for 13.10. I asked here because the ubuntu comunity is faster and smarter :)
[03:32] <zykotick9> mdt: gwrite is a HTML5 editor!!!  use a TEXT editor like gedit!!!
[03:33] <mdt> at the start of the file i read "OCTYPE html>"
[03:33] <mdt> lol
[03:33] <mdt> i've done a disaster
[03:33] <zykotick9> mdt: all that markup is gonna break the file!
[03:33] <abaddon> mdt: zykotick9 BWAHAHAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGA
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, So you get the site, I just checked the video, you had mentioned flash to begin with. What tab id the live radio I do not see it in the main page?
[03:33] <abaddon> mdt: zykotick9  just use terminal and nano
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> is*
[03:33] <mdt> deleting with nano :(
[03:34] <abaddon> mdt: to set the settings press ctrl and x.
[03:34] <mdt> oh i'm saving it and it asks "file names to write, mac format dos format" ?
[03:34] <abaddon> mdt: then press y and enter
[03:34] <maheanuu> zykotick9, Thanks, I guess that when you got a hammer the whole world looks like nails to you.....  Grin, like I said, "I am not at the end of the world, I am well over it....."
[03:35] <abaddon> mdt: ???
[03:35] <abaddon> uhhhhh
[03:35] <mdt> done ctrl+x and asks that :(
[03:35] <abaddon> mdt, ok, sorryu...where is the module file?
[03:35] <zykotick9> mdt: are you using "sudo nano foo"?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> ianmac1, I see not working not exactly what you describe with a quick look, although mine is showing this in general.
[03:36] <xangua> ianmac1: this looks promising (look don_crissti 2nd post) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=149316
[03:36] <mdt> i've wrote sudo nano /etc/modules
[03:36] <zykotick9> ok
[03:36] <abaddon> mdt: that's correct
[03:36] <zykotick9> isn't ctrl+o write changes?
[03:37] <abaddon> mdt: edit it then when done press ctrl+x
[03:37]  * zykotick9 hasn't used nano in a long time
[03:37] <mdt> ok done
[03:37] <mdt> now i suppose i have to restart
[03:37] <zero_coder> is there any hard disk repair tool for ubuntu??
[03:37] <abaddon> mdt: yup
[03:37] <mdt> ok brb
[03:37] <mdt> zero coder you can use hdd regenerator that works at boot
[03:37] <mdt> in dos i think
[03:37] <ianmac1> xangua, Thank you so very much! Good thing you showed me this while I still have some hair on my head, lol
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> zero_coder, If you disk is showing bad sectors it will only get worse, best if replaced before it fails.
[03:38] <abaddon> zykotick9: yess ctrl+o writes but doing ctrl+x will write then exit
[03:39] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee, i used smartmontools and it shows reallocated sector as 23
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> and
[03:39] <maheanuu> No when I go to rt.com I get the top header that has RT Question More and the LIVE button (Red Square) and click on it and it takes me out to On Air RT News and it tims out on a black screen that states the Following "Error loading stream: Could not connect to server and a Triangle with an explaination Point inside
[03:40] <zero_coder> wilee-nilee, and that it would fail soon , better back up
[03:40] <wafflejock_> !bootrepair | zero_coder
[03:40] <abaddon> zykotick9: it really doesn't matter as ctrl+o then ctrl+x will write and exit wheres as ctrl+x writes and then exits
[03:40] <wafflejock_> !fsck | zero_coder
[03:40] <zero_coder> wafflejock_, i tried that , but no use
[03:41] <zero_coder> wafflejock_, besides badblocks cant actually find any bad-block
[03:41] <wafflejock_> zero_coder: what's the issue?
[03:41] <wafflejock_> ah see
[03:41] <wafflejock_> reallocated
[03:41] <zero_coder> wafflejock_,  applications are freezing at times
[03:42] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, No when I go to rt.com I get the top header that has RT Question More and the LIVE button (Red Square) and click on it and it takes me out to On Air RT News and it tims out on a black screen that states the Following "Error loading stream: Could not connect to server and a Triangle with an explaination Point inside
[03:42] <wafflejock_> zero_coder: yeah probably good idea to just replace the disk if possible
[03:42] <mdt_> abaddon
[03:42] <mdt_> and the other guy
[03:42] <mdt_> zsomething
[03:42] <mdt_> i love you
[03:43] <zero_coder> wafflejock_, why is it that badblocks cant find any badblocks?
[03:43] <abaddon> mdt_: uhhhh...which worked?
[03:43] <mdt_> yeah works very well
[03:43] <abaddon> mdt_: cause zykotick9 probably did it if you used /etc/modules
[03:43] <wafflejock_> zero_coder: not really sure but if an HDD is acting wonky I usually stop trusting it and it become a thing to play with
[03:44] <xangua> maheanuu: it's working to me, something about mc donalds, walmart, apple, etc
[03:44] <mdt_> probably but thanks to both
[03:44] <abaddon> mdt_: it'd be me if you used .xsession method,ol
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, Works here as a video from live, you have adblock or noscript installed, any blockers?
[03:44] <zero_coder> wafflejock_, :) . no way to unmark the badblocks?
[03:44] <abaddon> mdt_: XD Np, i learned new stuff so it's all good
[03:44] <zykotick9> mdt_: glad you got it working!
[03:45] <mdt_> thanks zyko
[03:45] <zykotick9> !tab > mdt_
[03:45] <maheanuu> not to my knowledge, I didn't install anything or don't believe that I did
[03:45] <abaddon> zykotick9: thx for the knowledge boost. I'll store that method for future ref
[03:45] <maheanuu> wilee-nilee, not to my knowledge, I didn't install anything or don't believe that I did
[03:45] <mdt_> zyko i know the tab botton but in the webchat doesn't work
[03:45] <AnAlien> i need help finding themes and system monitors for ubuntu 13.04
[03:46] <zykotick9> mdt_: ahhh
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, here is additional dvd codecs worth running just to have. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  I also had a rts addon popup when I went there played with and without.
[03:46] <maheanuu> Where do I look for those in Firefox probably
[03:46] <mdt_> using chromium -.-
[03:46] <abaddon> mdt_: use xchat
[03:47] <abaddon> mdt_: or weechat if you love cli,lol
[03:47] <mdt_> i can't because this is a mediacenter and i don't want to install some programs to lave it clean :P
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> maheanuu, here is the addon. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rt-news/?src=api  the link is just commands
[03:47] <abaddon> mdt_: shrugs, it's your machine,lol
[03:48] <mdt_> about the mediacenter :D
[03:48] <mdt_> if anyone know how ti install cccam client or newcs i'll be happy to know something :D
[03:48] <AnAlien> i need help finding a good system monitors for ubuntu 13.04 that runs in the backgrounds.
[03:49] <joossee> how do i enumerate user accounts?
[03:49] <abaddon> mdt_: dunt know of the progs
[03:51] <AnAlien> anyone? bueler?
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> AnAlien, You come in peace for us humans right?
[03:52] <dwarder> how do you restart services in 13.10 ?
[03:52] <dwarder> service httpd restart ?
[03:52] <dwarder> doesn't seem to work
[03:52] <abaddon> AnAlien: use top or htop
[03:52] <zykotick9> joossee: enumerate?  "cat /etc/passwd | wc -l"
[03:53] <z8z> dwarder: /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[03:53] <dwarder> z8z: ubuntu way?
[03:53] <dwarder> z8z: why no service anymore?
[03:54] <abaddon> AnAlien: or gnome-system-monitor
[03:54] <z8z> dwarder: service should work
[03:55] <z8z> dwarder: don't know about 13.10
[03:55]  * zykotick9 UUOC award for myself, "wc -l /etc/passwd"
[03:55] <z8z> dwarder: i only use LTS versions
[03:56] <joossee> how do i uninstall something i got through the ubuntu sofwtare centre?
[03:56] <wafflejock_> dwarder: service works
[03:56] <wafflejock_> dwarder: sudo service apache restart
[03:57] <zykotick9> joossee: "sudo apt-get remove foo" or to remove config files in /etc "sudo apt-get purge foo"
[03:57] <kostkon> joossee, or use the software centre
[03:57] <wafflejock_> software center uses apt-get so one and the same basically
[03:57] <joossee> ty guys
[03:58] <z8z> dwarder: yeah make sure you are running as admin
[03:58] <zykotick9> wafflejock_: well SC uses apt, not sure it's apt-get ;)
[03:58] <joossee> kismet
[03:58] <wafflejock_> sorry right apt
[03:58] <wafflejock_> which uses dpkg
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> AnAlien, good is subjective, conky is good for me, depends on what you need.
[03:58] <zykotick9> wafflejock_: right ;)
[03:58] <wafflejock_> stuff that does stuff with stuff that does other stuff you know :)
[04:01] <joossee> guys when I add a repo to apt/USC, say the kismet repo, will apt-get know to use the newest version of kismet or do i have to tell it which repo to use?
[04:02] <AnAlien> wilee-nilee i installed conky fromt he app store and i couldnt find it so i could open it
[04:02] <zykotick9> joossee: 1) apt will use whatever is the "newest/highest" version number 2) be careful with 3rd party repos (and PPAs), they often lead to tears :|
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> AnAlien, You can get all kinds of conky scripts on the web, stick them in home as .conky and run conky & exit in the terminal and killall conky to close them
[04:04] <AnAlien> ok thx
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> AnAlien, That is abasically info so you can try them out till you have one you like.
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> basically*
[04:04] <wafflejock_> joossee: run sudo apt-get update after adding a PPA too to update your package list
[04:05] <AnAlien> im going for futuristic hacker look, so thats why i need it
[04:05] <AnAlien> anyway thx
[04:05] <AnAlien> bye
[04:05] <Foxhoundz> Is there any plans to move away from Canonical?
[04:05] <Foxhoundz> Are*
[04:05] <wafflejock_> for who?
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> AnAlien, There is a conky thread at the ubuntu forums as well where people put theres. these are highly twealkable once you know what's up.
[04:06] <wafflejock_> Foxhoundz: Linux Mint is a distro built from Ubuntu
[04:06] <Foxhoundz> For the core Ubuntu developers, just as the Open Office devs broke apart after Oracle took over
[04:06] <joossee> thx guys
[04:06] <Foxhoundz> wafflejock_, not officially supported by Ubuntu however
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> hehe  "futuristic hacker look" what is that exactly?
[04:07] <mdt_> sorry
[04:07] <mdt_> how to "chmod 755" a file?
[04:07] <wafflejock_> Foxhoundz: I don't think so I mean Ubuntu is really a bunch of small projects that aren't run/owned by Canonical being put together it's not really the same as Open Office... what makes you think they would abandon ship anyhow?
[04:08] <wafflejock_> mdt_: open a command prompt and type
[04:08] <wafflejock_> sudo chmod 755 someFileName.txt
[04:08] <xangua> AnAlien: 'conky colors' is preaty easy to setup, but not the only way  http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/CONKY-colors?content=92328
[04:09] <mdt_> thanks
[04:09] <RobbieCrash> hey there, I've got an issue with a samba mount. root can write to it, but everyone else gets denied. The permissions on the Windows share are full control to everyone in both ntfs and the sharing settings, and there are no errors when mounting the share.
[04:09] <xmetal> i fully understand the "we dont support Distro A or Distro B" here though as a ... Minty Linux user :P .. i have to say may things "under the hood" are so similiar, if no one is in the Mint room .. the user may find a solution here
[04:09] <wafflejock_> RobbieCrash: what does ls -al mean
[04:10] <zykotick9> wafflejock_: All (include hidden) and Long (all details)
[04:10] <wafflejock_> xmetal: yeah it's all based on Debianoh
[04:10] <wafflejock_> haha
[04:11] <wafflejock_> sorry I wrote that wrong wasn't asking
[04:11] <RobbieCrash> wafflejock_ I assume you mean say?
[04:11] <wafflejock_> was asking him to run that
[04:11] <wafflejock_> brain fart
[04:11] <RobbieCrash> drwxr-xr-x  2 rtpftp rtpftp    0 Nov  5 22:59 ftpdata
[04:11] <zykotick9> wafflejock_: ahh, sorry.
[04:11] <RobbieCrash> rtpftp is the user account
[04:11] <mdt_> well thanks at all i'll retry tomorrow
[04:12] <Foxhoundz> wafflejock_, the whole amazon ad-ware thing, Unity, etc.
[04:12] <RobbieCrash> chmod 777 as root or as rtpftp doesn't work.
[04:12] <wafflejock_> Foxhoundz: ah yeah I suppose that's some reason but I do imagine being a business some of them might understand the desire to make some money too
[04:13] <wafflejock_> RobbieCrash: Not really sure don't think I've had problems writing to samba shares though
[04:13] <PDilyard> wafflejock_: in case you were wondering, i installed 13.10, and so far i havent had any issues with system crashes (if you remember from last night)
[04:13] <wafflejock_> RobbieCrash: usually would just access it through my file browser but haven't run into issues
[04:13] <RobbieCrash> thanks
[04:14] <wafflejock_> PDilyard: I do indeed good to hear it's been more stable
[04:14] <PDilyard> wafflejock_: im getting really fast at setting up my complete environment (programs, directories, etc)
[04:14] <PDilyard> lol
[04:14] <wafflejock_> PDilyard: yeah it gets to be kinda fun after a while
[04:15] <wafflejock_> not sure if it's masochistic or what?
[04:15] <PDilyard> wafflejock_: installing things through the command line makes it really fast and easy
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Cool, you can also make an package install list for just such occasions and save any extra repos and keys.
[04:16] <wafflejock_> yeah definitely, I wrote up a guide to setup a bunch of stuff for development
[04:16] <PDilyard> wilee-nilee: ah yes, i was wondering about that, i'll look into it
[04:16] <PDilyard> wafflejock_: link me
[04:16] <wafflejock_> planning to make a video doing it and then post it
[04:16] <PDilyard> ok cool
[04:16] <PDilyard> be sure to let me know
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> PDilyard, Thats what I do generally to always fresh install.
[04:18] <wafflejock_> PDilyard: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13qRYXSYyAunclSOr-iLhpHa7A88MQXrO04B0n8pQPmA/edit#heading=h.bw2mdw5i1i9q just made the document public, still a few things to touch up before I post it and do a vid
[04:19] <xmetal> to avoid issues (maybe this is my "MS mentality showing :P " ), when upgrading an OS, i find Fresh installs to be better
[04:21] <xmetal> hmm @ what just happened
[04:23] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[04:24] <Foxhoundz> !netsplit
[04:24] <Foxhoundz> This is why IRC is flawed
[04:24] <Foxhoundz> it's a flawed distributed node system
[04:24] <Foxhoundz> if a node goes down, everyone else does
[04:25] <sam113101> Foxhoundz: if the node goes down, the node goes down
[04:25] <xmetal> hmm ... i mention "MS" in this room and theres a room split
[04:25] <sam113101> there's nothing flawed about it
[04:25] <xmetal> ironic timing
[04:25] <xmetal> :P
[04:25] <ianmac1> it's his fault!
[04:26]  * ianmac1 points to xmetal 
[04:26] <xmetal> lol
[04:26] <Foxhoundz> sam113101, what about a tor like peer-to-peer network without centralized servers?
[04:29] <Guest48915> Anyone familiar with apache2 around?
[04:29] <wafflejock_> Guest48915: somewhat
[04:30] <wafflejock_> !ask | Guest48915
[04:31] <nilo> I can't run any program for my cam in ubuntu 13.10
[04:31] <Guest48915> My problem I think is more with my router. Every time I goto my ip adress it sends me to my router. I turn http managment off. And it seems to make no difference.
[04:31] <nilo> i tried with cheese and guvcview
[04:31] <nilo> chees worked fine in ubuntu 13,04
[04:31] <nilo> when i try to run guvcview from console, i get this
[04:31] <nilo> http://paste.lisp.org/display/139714
[04:31] <nilo> please help me
[04:31] <photon> is gcc 4.9 available in 13.10 backports?
[04:32] <nianqiu> debian sid 分辨率不对，怎么搞？
[04:36] <Paulus68_1> !cn
[04:36] <qu> hi, my nvidia-settings cannot remember the settings, any idea? thanks.
[04:37] <qu> ubuntu 13.10 driver nvidia-319.32
[04:38] <joossee> anyone here familiar with iw reg set?
[04:38] <qu> i have to reset the display settings every time after reboot
[04:39] <leeping> Hi there, I have a problem with unmet package dependencies, can someone help out?
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> !details | leeping
[04:39] <leeping> It only happens when I try to remove a package:
[04:39] <leeping> http://bpaste.net/show/ZEScrv6USet2un8kQKqN/
[04:39] <qu> i have tried sudo it from terminal, still not work.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> leeping, Why would you remove adduser this a trimming ocd thang?
[04:42] <leeping> wilee-nilee, no .. I'm trying to reinstall some packages whose checksums have been modified
[04:42] <leeping> I recently had a breakin
[04:42] <leeping> and I want to mitigate some of the damage
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> leeping, adduser is a stick thnkg
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> thing*
[04:43] <anon-ymus1618> /mode $me +x
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> stock* lol
[04:43] <Guest48915> I did not turn a profit last year taking product off the shelf all wilee-nilee. Mom smokes in the car. Jesus is okay with it, but do not tell Dad.
[04:43] <joossee> hey guys i figured out how to get my 5ghz to work from earlier wafflejockTablet bekks Rory  wilee-nilee :you have to set your country using iw reg set <-- VERY IMPORTANT
[04:43] <zykotick9> leeping: personally, i'd suggest reinstalling / fixing whatever allowed "breakin" then restoring data from backup...  good luck.
[04:43] <leeping> zykotick9, I know that's the best advice
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Guest48915, Hehe, take your meds. ;)
[04:43] <leeping> but I don't want to spend a few days reinstalling just yet
[04:44] <leeping> wilee-nilee, I know it's a stock thing. I actually tried to remove and reinstall upstart, but it said there was this adduser dependency
[04:44] <kaitrek> need help with NFS: I have server+client of SL v6.4 both work fine, I have another client Kubuntu 13.10 which has wrong user:group id permissions (4294967294:4294967294), all computers have the same user/group lists, idmapd has the same domain configured and running
[04:44] <wafflejockTablet> joossee: strange the for the info
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> leeping, So you gonna break it more till you do, good luck with that. ;)
[04:46] <leeping> Thanks. :)
[04:46] <wilee-nilee> leeping, My pleasure. ;)
[04:46] <Jordan_U> leeping: You do *not* "fix" a system that has been compromised. Re-install from scratch or restore from backups that you *know* are from before the intrusion.
[04:47] <hncc> hello
[04:47] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: thanks for confirmation ;)
[04:47] <Jordan_U> leeping: http://serverfault.com/questions/218005/how-do-i-deal-with-a-compromised-server
[04:48] <leeping> I'll wait a few days and see if the machine starts sending ddos attacks again
[04:48] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, ya #kismet helped out a bit... they knew right away.. similar fix to that hostap ath9k compile link you guys posted
[04:48] <leeping> Jordan_U, thank you
[04:48] <Jordan_U> leeping: No. It doesn't work like that. You can't be sure that you actually control that machine until you re-install from scratch.
[04:49] <leeping> Jordan_U, I can't be 100% sure, but I can be 75% sure
[04:49] <qu> hi, my *nvidia-settings cannot remember the settings*, any idea? thanks.
[04:49] <joossee> wafflejockTablet, and the great irony is: 2.4ghz is way faster! lol
[04:49] <Danato_> anybody who can help me with wicd? I installed it but im getting an error
[04:49] <leeping> I mean, I know it sounds foolish, but why is everyone so black and white on this? I agree there are people who can compromise the kernel and hide all of their tracks, but that is not everyone
[04:49] <wafflejockTablet> Heh bummer
[04:50] <leeping> I'm not storing particularly sensitive information on this machine anyway
[04:50] <joossee> oh well at least now i know for sure
[04:50]  * zykotick9 is a bit frustrated reading right now...
[04:50] <joossee> funny story: you are thre second belgo pakistani ive met... and i live in canada!
[04:50] <wafflejockTablet> Must be some culture or chemistry
[04:52] <leeping> zykotick9, I understand you're frustrated that I don't fully agree with you, but I'd like to know why nobody ever says "This will clean up 80% of problems but you need to watch out for the 20% that will slip by"
[04:53] <qu> hi, my *nvidia-settings* cannot remember the settings, any idea? thanks. ubuntu 13.10 driver nvidia-319.32.
[04:53] <leeping> qu, check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old or orig or something.
[04:53] <joossee> qu, try editing your settings as root?
[04:54] <zykotick9> qu: start nvidia-settings with "gksudo nvidia-settings" then use the save to xorg.conf button.  restart xorg, does it work?
[04:54] <leeping> If someone was running a DDoS attack that was taking up 100% of my CPU, and I removed it, chances are that (though not 100%) if they broke again I'd see it again
[04:54] <qu> yes. i have tried as root, but not work.
[04:54] <zykotick9> qu: i got nothing then... good luck.
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:56] <qu> i have save to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, file generated well, but not work
[04:57] <zykotick9> qu: you might want to see both "/msg ubottu doesntwork" and "/msg ubottu details" - they will be in PM windows from ubottu
[04:58] <qu> zykotick9: no. i changed xorg.conf (only HorizSync and VertRefresh) to suit my monitor
[04:59] <qu> after that, i can select my right solusion, but i have to select it every time reboot.
[05:02] <qu> leeping: xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original are empty
[05:04] <leeping> qu, you can check if the drivers are being loaded correctly with "dmesg"
[05:04] <leeping> if the drivers aren't loading correctly then none of the nvidia settings will work
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> i recently tried to connect a wifi repeater from ubuntu 13.04 laptop with an eth cable, disabled wireless and could not connect the device on http://192.168.10.1 it kept searching for a network..any clues?
[05:08] <qu> leeping: might be. i notice few lines `[MSG]` warnings shows a second everytime reboot
[05:09] <leeping> are there any [EE] ?
[05:09] <qu> how i check it ?
[05:09] <leeping> also grep for the word nvidia, you should get something like NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module
[05:11] <leeping> Oh yeah, the [EE] should be in Xorg.0.log, not dmesg :)
[05:11] <qu> dmsg: [    8.479199] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[05:12] <qu> [    8.487531] [drm] Initialized nvidia-drm 0.0.0 20130102 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[05:13] <qu> (**) and (II) in Xorg.0.log, no (EE)
[05:14] <qu> LoadModule: "nvidia"
[05:14] <qu> Loading /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/nvidia_drv.so
[05:15] <qu> Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[05:15] <leeping> Can you pastebin it?
[05:15] <greeter> qu: could a paste bin be better for this?
[05:15] <qu> how to paste bin?
[05:16] <greeter> http://www.pastebin.com
[05:16] <greeter> basically, whatever you want to show the channel, you put on that website. then you share a link to your paste with the channel
[05:17] <greeter> the ubuntu operating system may have a command or program for that too... unfortunately i don't know enough about ubuntu to confirm that
[05:19] <qu> leeping: http://pastebin.com/ezfheRKH
[05:20] <qu> greeter: thanks
[05:20] <wafflejockTablet> !paste
[05:20] <zykotick9> greeter: debian's dpkg bot's <pastebin.com> factoid (adapted for ubuntu by me!)  <dpkg> pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads.  Please use a different site, like http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <leeping> That looks fine. I don't know how I can help. You can look at my Xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/uviAEr6b, that might help
[05:24] <qu> leeping: [my xorg.conf here](http://pastebin.com/3EvuG4Tf)
[05:45] <jeff__> Hey folks
[05:45] <jeff__> anybody here install ubuntu on Macbook air 6.x?
[05:46] <wafflejockTablet> !mac
[05:49] <zztopless> Hey smart people.  Apologies for those also in #kubuntu, but 250 vs 1718... I need those kind of numbers :/
[05:50] <zztopless> I had been ploying around with several files in order to see the console during boot and to end the boot phase in the console, without lightdm starting (was having issues with .Xauthority, as well as the issues that can come up when installing Nvidia drivers (including trying to get the Cuda Toolkit installed).  Anyway, it seemed to be working, I would see the console, had worked out where some
[05:50] <zztopless> issues were, but I wanted to test the boot phase wuth the normal splash screen, so I (thought I) correctly commented out changes I had made and uncommented out other lines I had replaced.
[05:51] <zztopless> Long story short, the caps lock, num lock and scroll lock lights are flashing in sync once it gets past the grub2 screen and the monitors freeze
[05:52] <zztopless> I can boot into windows without an issue on a different disk (and access the files on the ext4 Kubuntu system disk with Paragon extfs
[05:52] <zztopless> any advice would be greatly appreciated, have spent quite a bit of time setting up this particular install.  Although a bit flakey, I can use Paragon to edit files, but am setting up a kb vm to be safe.  I have copied the /log directory if that helps, just struggling to make sense of what I'm looking at.
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> !text | zztopless
[05:54] <zztopless> Hi ubottu, thanks for the help :)  Unfortunely have already tried that... :/ locks up immediately
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, can you like make that into an understandable problem and end goal deceleration. ;)
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> declaration*
[05:55] <zztopless> Oh I wish I could be more comprehensible lol
[05:55] <zztopless> sleep deprivation, living across the road from a 7-eleven, not a good combo.
[05:56] <zztopless> Basically I'd live to salvage this installation if possible
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, freezes on boot right?
[05:57] <zztopless> partly because my internet is shaped until tomorrow (hit my limit this morning).  Luckily my ISP is one of the major deb repository mirros, and that traffic isn't counted or shaped, but I don't believe I can get the installation process to use a mirror? Which will be it very slow (that and i would prefer not to reinstall)
[05:57] <vijaya> can anyone tell me how to crosscompile arora for arm....
[05:57] <zztopless> wilee-nilee: yes
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, You backed up?
[05:58] <zztopless> However, if I choose rescue mode from the grub menu it doesn't, but everything seems to be read only in resuce mode?
[05:59] <zztopless> no need, don't keep any documents on that hard drive and it's a new installation (well three or four days)
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, Did it ever run correctly?
[06:00] <zztopless> the end goal I suppose is to use have it replace windows for work, perhaps running a windows vm if needed
[06:00] <elementary-site4> Hi guys, I'm using eOS but no one there cares and it's built on ubuntu so I thought I'd ask here. I'm on a clean install and my cursor keeps flickering when I type and sometimes only appears when I move around on the touchpad.
[06:00] <zztopless> wilee: yes it did
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, slow down and just answer questions, no one will help without communicating in a straight forward way.
[06:01] <Jordan_U> elementary-site4: Unfortunately this channel only supports Ubuntu proper.
[06:01] <zztopless> hadn't managed to get the two gpu's and three monitors running with the nvidia addition drivers (works with nouveau)
[06:02] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, If it ran correctly at one time, reinstall clone it and do the destruction till you have to reload the clone till you get it right.
[06:02] <zztopless> of course.
[06:02] <zztopless> I know wish files I messed with
[06:03] <nginx-happy> hello
[06:03] <zztopless> the only thing is I need to be able to run "grub-update" if i do replace those files
[06:03] <zztopless> *which
[06:03] <Jordan_U> zztopless: Then boot into recovery mode, "mount -o remount,rw /", and restore your backups of the files in question.
[06:04] <nginx-happy> i create a folder named /var/www/javawiki/htdocs but now when i cd /var/www/javawiki/htdocs it says
[06:04] <nginx-happy> -bash: cd: /var/www/javawiki/htdocs: No such file or directory
[06:04] <zztopless> good idea
[06:04] <nginx-happy> way is that But i could Go To It by Midnight Commander
[06:04] <zztopless> Do you know if it's possible to modify the installation disks (usb stick in my case) to use a different mirror from the default?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> nginx-happy: My guess is that you just have a simple typo. Please pastebin the output of "find /var/www/" (which will list all the files in all of the directories and subdirectories in /var/www/)
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> zztopless, usb in software sources yes, however you would have to chroot to affect the install on HD.
[06:06] <zztopless> would mean the difference between a regular speed installation and one that takes four hours... unfortunately it's not a laptop, otherwise I'd go to the library etc...
[06:06] <nginx-happy> Jordan_U, let me check
[06:06] <zztopless> Do you know if there is a guide to doing that?  I've had a look around and am struggling to find any info on it
[06:06] <Jordan_U> zztopless: Internet access is not needed during installation. You could just update after you've booted into your newly installed system and changed the mirrors.
[06:07] <zztopless> really?  sweet, will just unplug
[06:08] <zztopless> haven't used ububuntu (or linux for that matter) in desktop form for 3-4 years... so impressed with how polished the desktops are, nto to mention the massively improved driver support.
[06:09] <zztopless> *Ubuntu
[06:11] <zztopless> Just hope I can get two monitors running off the Nvidia card and the other off the onboard Intel (as I do with Windows), that will seal it.  Seems people are able to without too much screwing around in 13.x
[06:13] <zztopless> nouveau actually does it flawlessly out of the box, however I'd like cuda (the the ability to play the odd game) to be available.  Having said that, I would only be needing use them occasionaly and don't need more than one monitor (and none for the stuff I use cuda for), assuming it be be set up so that switching between them is relatively straight forward.
[06:14] <Guest56385> bonjour à tous, je recherche le réseau sur les musiciens
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> !fr
[06:15] <sarnold> does anyone know the new name for this feature in 13.10? gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences auto-raise false
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> sarnold, Top panel hide in gnome-shell?
[06:15] <nginx-happy> Jordan_U,  Yes it was a typo; thank you
[06:16] <sarnold> wilee-nilee: no, prevent clicking in windows from raising them
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> ah not sure
[06:25] <zztopless> be back in a bit, thanks for the help, espexially Jordan and wilee, very much appreciated :)
[06:26] <NSA_Agent> muwhaha
[06:27] <Nautili> irc.hes.de.euirc.net
[06:31] <pbsurf> trying to get wacom intuos5 working; shows up in lsusb and lsmod shows wacom, but xinput and xsetwacom see nothing
[06:32] <Edward_Snowden> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010922 ??
[06:34] <pbsurf> yep - xsetwacom -V shows version 0.20.0 which should support intuos5
[06:35] <pbsurf> Report of Intuos5 working out of the box in 12.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055872
[06:35] <pbsurf> I have 13.04
[06:36] <pbsurf> Forgot to mention that it's running in Vmware, although device is showing up with lsusb (and works perfectly in Windows 8 guest VM )
[06:36] <qwebirc11634> hello guys, I have radeon 6990 card with dual GPU's, I notice the second gpu is not used when gaming, how would I enable this to use both gpu's for better proformance
[06:37] <Edward_Snowden> which driver are you using?
[06:37] <qwebirc11634> the flgrx
[06:37] <qwebirc11634> non free drivers
[06:37] <Edward_Snowden> hmm
[06:38] <qwebirc11634> i see both gpu in terminal but only see the first one using gpu % when gaming and temp going up, this means its only using the first gpu
[06:40] <zykotick9> Edward_Snowden: lame nic, don't reply.
[06:42] <levo> does thunderbird support yahoo mail?
[06:43] <sometux> kde+byobu=no vertical split, why????
[06:43] <sarnold> it sure should.. hard to imagine yahoo could screw it up badly enough to keep a standard mail client from working, anyway :)
[06:43] <zykotick9> sometux: honestly, learn to use tmux = be happy
[06:45] <sometux> zykotick9: tmux,new to me=I'll try it, thx
[06:46] <zykotick9> sometux: fyi, i used screen directly for years, but once i went tmux "i'd never go back"
[06:46] <xmetal> oh geez
[06:47] <zykotick9> sometux: fyi#2, my 1st config of tmux, is screen/vi keybindings
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> hi
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> anyone?
[06:50] <ola2> how to stop a daemon thread
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> hi
[06:50] <somsip> !anyone | linuxlite1983
[06:50] <ola2> i have a thread which calls another program
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> can anyone help?
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> hehehe\
[06:50] <ola2> how to stop it in between
[06:50] <bazhang> linuxlite1983, ubuntu support issue?
[06:50] <mercutio> ola2: echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> well its about metasploit
[06:51] <linuxlite1983> you wanna help?
[06:51] <linuxlite1983> ?
[06:51] <linuxlite1983> bazhang
[06:51] <linuxlite1983> http://askubuntu.com/questions/371900/metasploit-install
[06:51] <ola2> bash: /proc/sysrq-trigger: Permission denied
[06:51] <sarnold> ola2: good. that command would reboot your server.
[06:52] <linuxlite1983> hey ola2 type sudo -s
[06:52] <ola2> i have done that sir
[06:52] <ola2> im as root
[06:52] <sarnold> ola2: I strongly recommend reading some documentation on what you're about to type -before- typing it.
[06:52] <linuxlite1983> http://askubuntu.com/questions/371900/metasploit-install please read this
[06:52] <ola2> i have a question
[06:52] <linuxlite1983> help me
[06:52] <sarnold> ola2: what problem are you -really- trying to solve?
[06:52] <ola2> there is daemon thread
[06:52] <ola2> so it hangs my software
[06:52] <ola2> i want to stop it
[06:53] <IJNX> How to force dhclient to get really new IP? I already did if down/up + deleted /var/lib/dhcp/*.leases files and dhclient -r + dhclient eth1. It still get's the same old IP via DHCPREQUEST 10.0.2.6. (Using virtual box 4.3 + natnetwork)
[06:53] <linuxlite1983> can anyone help?
[06:53] <linuxlite1983> me?
[06:53] <linuxlite1983> me?
[06:53] <linuxlite1983> http://askubuntu.com/questions/371900/metasploit-install please read this
[06:53] <FloodBot1> linuxlite1983: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <sarnold> ola2: us 'ps auxw' to find the process id of the task you want to kill, then run "sudo kill -9 that_pid" -- it'll be dead. gone.
[06:54] <sarnold> linuxlite1983: use netstat -ltnp | grep 7337 to find the process id that has that port open. kill it with kill <pid>
[06:54] <ola2> sarnold: i am doing it by programming
[06:55] <ola2> and the problem is not only this
[06:55] <ola2> my program gets hang
[06:55] <ola2> so how could it be possible
[06:55] <zykotick9> sarnold: fyi, using -9 before using a regular "kill foo" is a bad suggestion...
[06:55] <linuxlite1983> sarnold thanks ill try it
[06:55] <sarnold> zykotick9: he wanted it dead. hehe. :)
[06:55] <sarnold> ola2: how are you starting the daemon process?
[06:58] <ola2> im doing this
[06:58] <ola2> python a.py
[06:58] <ola2> im starting a python program
[06:58] <ola2> this program is daemon
[06:58] <ola2> untill it finishes
[06:58] <ola2> i want to stop it in between
[06:59] <cloudgeek> There is some problem .. I have a domina name and A virtual machine ..Now I want map my DNS of domain name to the Virual Machine.How I can do that any tutorial or link or How to
[06:59] <cloudgeek> someone suggest to use bind server but I don't what to and how to do ?
[07:00] <linuxlite1983> sarnold its working now!!! hahaha thanks bro!!!
[07:00] <sarnold> IJNX: many dhcp servers will hand out IPs based on MAC address
[07:00] <sarnold> linuxlite1983: have fun :)
[07:01] <linuxlite1983> hahahah
[07:01] <linuxlite1983> thanks!!!
[07:01] <ola2> sarnold:any suggestion
[07:01] <linuxlite1983> im now installing metasploit!!!
[07:01] <sarnold> IJNX: or it'll hand out an address based on the client's requested hostname
[07:01] <linuxlite1983> hahaha
[07:01] <ola2> stopping that py file
[07:01] <ola2> i dont understand why software control passes to that file
[07:01] <IJNX> sarnold: yes, this is simple xbox dhcpserver and problem might just that it's too simple.
[07:02] <buu> AUGH
[07:03] <sarnold> ola2: can you pastebin your code?
[07:03] <ola2> code is so long
[07:03] <sarnold> ola2: oh :(
[07:03] <buu> How can I fix my network performance with a broadcom 4360 card?
[07:03] <qwebirc11634> hello guys, I have radeon 6990 card with dual GPU's, I notice the second gpu is not used when gaming, how would I enable this to use both gpu's for better preformance
[07:03] <ola2> very long code actually
[07:03] <ola2> ok im giving small portion
[07:04] <sarnold> cloudgeek: man, running bind is not for the faint of heart. here's some documentation but I stronglyu recommend trying to solve the problem some other way. :)  https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html
[07:04] <rrjason>  Hi, I have a question. Is there any way to have MAC inside a LXC container while using Apparmor? I'd like to have Apparmor protect both the host (from the container) and the container (from the software it will run); is that possible at all?
[07:04] <ola2> sarnold:http://pastebin.com/CVtwVzsf
[07:04] <ola2> but this is juct one line
[07:04] <ola2> this makes daemon after repetition
[07:06] <sarnold> ola2: probably you need to fork() a new process and run this code in the child process; http://docs.python.org/2/library/os#os.fork
[07:06] <zykotick9> rrjason: are you sure apparmor is even still relevant?
[07:06] <rrjason> zykotick9, what do you mean?
[07:07] <zykotick9> rrjason: i'm under the impression, perhaps incorrectly!, that apparmour is 1995
[07:08] <rrjason> zykotick9, close to that yeah, what about that?
[07:08] <zykotick9> rrjason: so, why use it now?  best of luck to you... i have no insights.
[07:08] <rrjason> zykotick9, it's still maintained/developed...
[07:10] <zykotick9> rrjason: well, if the developers are still alive, it's not "stable" enough for Debian <that a joke, and kinda funny i think>
[07:10] <rrjason> zykotick9, Apparmor is available on Debian aswell, that I'm aware of.
[07:11] <sarnold> zykotick9: heh, it's true apparmor has been around forever; I started working on it in 2000. but it's still under active development
[07:11] <zykotick9> you didn't get the joke, that's for sure ;)
[07:11] <sarnold> zykotick9: the sticking point for debian is that upstream apparmor has a bunch of patches that aren't yet in the mainline linux kernel, and the debian kernel team does not wish to support them out-of-tree. That position makes sense, some of the code is quite intricate.
[07:11] <zykotick9> sarnold: nice!  thanks (even though I've never personally used apparmor)
[07:12] <zykotick9> sarnold: debian is OT in this channel!  ;)
[07:12] <ola2> sarnold:fork is not working
[07:12] <sarnold> zykotick9: we're pushing more patches into the mainline kernel over time though, it's an arduous process :/ -- but hopefully we'll get to the point where apparmor support in debian is tolerable. :)
[07:12] <ola2> what im doing is call python code from python
[07:13] <ola2> and there is a function which takes time to execute
[07:13] <sarnold> ola2: yeah, that was why I had hopes for os.fork() -- the subprocess module would make it easy to spawn an external process without blocking your task, but native python needs to happen in another task explicitely
[07:18] <kgalahassa> I wanna install a virtualbox package downloaded on virtualbox website, but my system ubuntu12.10 is claiming that it breaks the existent package (virtualbox) each time i decide to install with my software manager
[07:20] <kgalahassa> bekks, I wanna install a virtualbox package downloaded on virtualbox website, but my system ubuntu12.10 is claiming that it breaks the existent package (virtualbox) each time i decide to install with my software manager
[07:20] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, so delete the present virtualbox
[07:20] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, sudo apt-get purge virtualbox
[07:21] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, then install the downloaded .deb
[07:21] <ObrienDave> that was easy ;)
[07:22] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, it's all in the wrist ...
[07:22] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, ok , in action.
[07:22] <ObrienDave> LOL
[07:22] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, be safe.   have fun.
[07:24] <zykotick9> sarnold: thanks again.  YOU made my night!
[07:25] <sarnold> zykotick9: hehe, woo :)
[07:25]  * cfhowlett slowly backs out of this thread ...
[07:28] <nginx-happy> what does www-data:x:33 means?
[07:28] <nginx-happy> espicially the x
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !x
[07:28] <Danato> can anybody give me a hand with wicd?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> !wicd
[07:29] <Danato> im installed but it doesnt work, it shows me an error when i try to open it
[07:29] <Danato> Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages.
[07:29] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, i've one another challenge , it says: impossible to install "libpython2.7:i386"
[07:30] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, over my head.  sorry.  ask again in channel.
[07:30] <sarnold> nginx-happy: that's complicated. the /etc/passwd user database used to store hashed passwords back in olden times. 'x' was a password "hash" that could never be generated, so it would prevent logins. These days the hashed passwords are stored in the /etc/shadow file instead and the 'x' is just a placeholder.
[07:30] <yeyeman> what do I do when the unity panel stops working?
[07:30] <yeyeman> which does quite often, actually
[07:30] <yeyeman> can I restart it somehow?
[07:30] <kgalahassa> bekks,  i've one another challenge  when installing the downloaded virtualbox(4.3) package, it says: impossible to install "libpython2.7:i386"
[07:31] <kgalahassa>   i've one another challenge  when installing the downloaded virtualbox(4.3) package, it says: impossible to install "libpython2.7:i386"
[07:32] <zykotick9> Danato: i'm afraid to ask, but what are you running?  if you ".. apt-get install wicd-curses" or the like, i wouldn't expect you to be getting such error messages?!?!
[07:32] <yeyeman> how do I restart unity-panel?
[07:32] <sarnold> kgalahassa: did you select an x86 package when you should have selected an x86-64 (amd64) package?
[07:33] <nginx-happy> sarnold,  so x doesn't tell about permission rights like read and erite of group www-data? if no so what does www-data:x:33 means
[07:33] <Danato> zykotick9: what do you mean by what am i running?
[07:33] <Danato> zykotick9: i followed these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD
[07:33] <sarnold> nginx-happy: it means a user with name 'www-data' and userid '33'.
[07:33] <buu> Can someone give me some help with getting asus pce-ac68 running?
[07:33] <zykotick9> Danato: 1) are you using ubuntu yes/no 2) are you using PPAs yes/no?
[07:34] <buu> For some reason it works with the latest asus drivers but I only get 30 mb
[07:34] <buu> *mbps
[07:34] <nginx-happy> sarnold, it is not a user it is a group
[07:34] <buu> Is there some way to compile the latest broadcom drivers under ubuntu?
[07:34] <sarnold> nginx-happy: aha, then www-data group, no password, group id 33 :)
[07:34] <nginx-happy> sarnold, i found it in /etc/groups
[07:34] <Danato> zykotick9: yes, ubuntu 13.04 upgrading now, and sorry idk what are PPAs, im a noob
[07:34] <yeyeman> how do I restart unity-panel?
[07:35] <zykotick9> !ppa
[07:35] <nginx-happy> sarnold, the x tells the no-pass part?
[07:35] <zykotick9> Danato: that might be a good thing ;)
[07:35] <nginx-happy> sarnold,  no password
[07:35] <pnorman> I have some propitery libraries I need to install (.so files, some headers, utility binaries). What are the best practices for installing libraries like these so that they're tracked by package management?
[07:35] <kgalahassa> sarnold, I have a ubuntu 12.10, and I downloaded this one: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ("Precise Pangolin")  i386
[07:35] <Danato> zykotick9: that I'm a noob? lol
[07:36] <sarnold> nginx-happy: correct, "no password". I haven't yet seen a group that required a password to use the group, but the feature's been there for a few decades. go figure.
[07:37] <zykotick9> Danato: sorry, i can't offer anything that isn't in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WICD best of luck!
[07:39] <Danato> zykotick9: that didnt work :/ but thanks anyways
[07:39] <zykotick9> Danato: and the "good thing" was that you didn't know what a PPA was, NOT that you where new to ubuntu
[07:39] <sarnold> bedtime for me, have fun everyone :)
[07:39] <Danato> zykotick9: ah lol so im pretty sure i ddnt mess with whatever that PPA is :P
[07:43] <Danato> soo is there anybody else who can help me with wicd?
[07:52] <pnorman> I have some propitery libraries I need to install (.so files, some headers, utility binaries). What are the best practices for installing libraries like these so that they're tracked by package management?
[07:53] <zykotick9> pnorman: my suggestion, they SHOULD be tracked by "package managment".  best of luck.
[07:54] <pnorman> zykotick9: well I agree, but don't know how to do it
[07:55] <pnorman> the install is a cp lib/x64/release/* /usr/lib/
[07:55] <zykotick9> pnorman: so these obviously aren't DEB files?  check out checkinstall for source installs <creation of LOCAL DEB files>.  best of luck.
[07:55] <pnorman> zykotick9: they're not deb files, they're .so files. checkinstall was what I was thinking
[07:57] <helmut_> hi
[07:57] <pnorman> but I know when it comes to *good* practices I'm out of my depths.
[08:01] <roshanpatel27> hi
[08:03] <AdityaRaj> hey guys i need help with setting up my inbuilt fingerprint reader, can anyone help me please ?
[08:05] <kakka> hi all , is there any feature like fastboot in ubuntu, i want to boot my system faster, like windows 8
[08:06] <kakka> there should be some way to keep a snapshot of system and just load that snapshot in to the memory
[08:06] <wilee-nilee> kakka, Not really the windows fast boot is a hybrid, a ssd makes a small diference
[08:06] <levo> thunderbird on fetching messages from yahoo mail account, says there's not enough space, but IT IS. and gmail mails were all retrieved
[08:07] <kakka> wilee-nilee: i have a simple HDD and i boot really fast into win8 as compared to ubuntu
[08:07] <StrangeNoises> hm. when i maximise, the window titlebar doesn't merge into the menubar any more
[08:07] <StrangeNoises> not sure what i did to break that
[08:07] <kakka> i turned on fast startup and it is working very well
[08:08] <kakka> actually i have triple boot system, with win7, win8 and ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> kakka, running the fast boot in windows and a dual boot with ubuntu is failure waiting to happen if windows is not fully shutting down
[08:08] <kakka> and all of them working fine except some performance issue in ubuntu as compared with windows
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> kakka, Can you time both times and report them?
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> we can than see if something is holding up the ubuntu, mine are about equal
[08:10] <kakka> i can live with that, but is there any way in ubuntu to take a snapshot of RAM contents, what need to be loaded in advance , like ureadahead but it doesn't seem to work as expected
[08:10] <kakka> yes , i timed them all
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> and
[08:11] <kakka> On windows 8 with fastboot disabled, 36-37 seconds, ubuntu 50 seconds
[08:11] <kakka> on windows 8 with fastboot enabled 20 seconds
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> oh my 13 seconds longer you will never get back
[08:11] <greyhatpython> I don't see that in Ubuntu.
[08:11] <kakka> and i have a simple HDD of 7200 RPM
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> kakka, Using fast boot with a dual boot is a bad idea.
[08:13] <jypie> @_@
[08:13] <kakka> wilee-nilee: i will turn that off, because i would like to boot mostly to UBUNTU
[08:13] <kakka> but
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> custom kernel? trim boot items?
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> kakka, okay if you go to windows, but from windows to ubuntu with fastboot on can lockup windows.
[08:13] <kakka> i want to acheive something like ubuntt fastboot
[08:14] <Serus> Hi
[08:14] <kakka> i want ubuntu to boot faster, as much as can, without compromising graphics
[08:15] <Serus> what part needs to be faster?
[08:15] <bouzerna> hi
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> is ubuntu on systemd yet?
[08:16] <West> Is there a way to keep Xchat minimzed to system tray ?  I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and it's seems to just quit.
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> West, unity and it is not coming up when clicked?
[08:17] <kakka> wilee-nilee: is there any program which make a snap shot of drivers which need to be loaded on startup, because i  think that as on startup ubuntu takes about 300 Mb of RAM, and this 300 Mb need to be loaded for the same system, each time, so if we load this 300 Mb directly in to the memory, without checking and initiliasing , this should work, very fast. I am not a developer , i am guessing though
[08:17] <ObrienDave> West there is a 'hide' command on the tray icon
[08:17] <iceroot_> kakka: you have a ssd?
[08:17] <kakka> iceroot_: no
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> kakka, none that I'm aware of, maybe others have ideas.
[08:17] <iceroot_> kakka: buy a ssd, that is 300% faster then any tuning you can do
[08:18] <kakka> iceroot_: it is a simple HDD and it is of 7200 RPM
[08:18] <West> ObrienDave: where do I enable that option ?
[08:18] <iceroot_> kakka: as i said, dont waste your time with tuning the start process, just get an ssd
[08:18] <ObrienDave> West click the icon
[08:19] <kakka> SSD are costly and out of my budget, i am using a laptop and couldn't replace
[08:19] <iceroot_> kakka: then what about suspend instead of a complete shutdown and boot again?
[08:20] <kakka> iceroot_: suspend is a good option to resume quickly but it will drain battery much faster
[08:20] <iceroot_> kakka: suspend to disc
[08:20] <iceroot_> kakka: not suspend to ram
[08:20] <kakka> iceroot_: Hibernation
[08:20] <StrangeNoises> SSDs really are the cheapest way to make a laptop or other computer that doesn't already have one faster. but i guess an old-fashioned way to speed things up would be to customise things to an enormous degree so almost everything needed to boot is in the imageramfs; as all the time is taken seeking around the disk for lots of different files
[08:21] <StrangeNoises> but i don't know if ubuntu allows for that much customisation
[08:21] <StrangeNoises> it is remarkable how much an ssd will make a system feel faster ;-)
[08:21] <kakka> iceroot_: i enabled and it is saving the state successfully but i have not seen any improvement in resume
[08:21] <StrangeNoises> because all those seek time delays are removed
[08:21] <StryKaizer> Being a webdeveloper, I'm running 13.04.    Many times after booting my apache service is not running (and I have to start it manually).   Anyone knows how to fix this?
[08:21] <kakka> iceroot_: it is same as reboot
[08:21] <Serus> kakka, suspending is faster
[08:22] <Serus> StryKaizer: many times or always?
[08:22] <kakka> Serus: time taken to resume from hibernation= reboot time
[08:22] <StryKaizer> Serus, many times :s
[08:23] <Serus> kakka: yes, that's why suspending is faster.
[08:23] <StrangeNoises> time taken to resume from hibernation should be quicker actually; again, because it's just loading one contiguous block of data from disk rather than darting all over the place for files
[08:23] <StrangeNoises> so it's down to the actual transfer rate of the disk
[08:23] <kakka> serus, there is no improvement in the startup time,
[08:23] <StrangeNoises> rather than that *and* seek times
[08:24] <Serus> StryKaizer: if it was always I would say install it as a service, but you might need to delay the service starting.
[08:24] <levo> doesn't have anybody a suggestoin for me? thunderbird warns about not enough disk space retrieving yahoo mail.
[08:24] <kakka> StrangeNoises: yes, that's what i am expecting, but it is not working
[08:25] <StrangeNoises> depends where the time is being taken i guess. i mean, if it takes a long time to get through the bios before you even get to the bootloader (as is the case with this machine) then hibernate doesn't help that at all
[08:25] <kakka> StrangeNoises: in my cases, both are equal and resume from hibernation should be better than clean reboot
[08:26] <Serus> kakka: suspending takes more energy, but resumes faster. (You also can't turn off power when suspending)
[08:27] <wilee-nilee> levo, And what is the disc space? separate home?
[08:27] <StrangeNoises> first machine i ever had that suspended properly in linux was the newest one, with uefi
[08:27] <kakka> StrangeNoises: hmm,, but i calculated all the times after selecting right boot loader
[08:27] <kakka> StrangeNoises: my machine also supports uefi
[08:27] <levo> wilee-nilee: on ntfs drive , but did work good on fetching gmail messages
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> kakka, grub defaults to a 10 sec wait, you can mess with that.
[08:28] <buu> Does anyone know how to compile the broadcom driver?
[08:28] <wilee-nilee> levo, This a wubi install?
[08:29] <kakka> StrangeNoises: in my case, i set it to 5 seconds and i excluded these seconds, in my startup times calculations,
[08:29] <levo> wilee-nilee: no,
[08:29] <Hempathy> hi guys, just like to thank those that suggested xubuntu and the benefits of Xfce yesterday... my machine is running sweet!
[08:29] <levo> wilee-nilee: i have both windows and ubuntu
[08:29] <ObrienDave> thanks for letting us know :))
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> levo, Not sure the ntfs references than in regards to question of ubuntu and thunderbird.
[08:30] <kakka> well thanks all, its time to have lunch
[08:30] <levo> wilee-nilee: what?
[08:30] <kakka> will mess with startup times, some other day, thanks to all
[08:30] <Hempathy> ObrienDave, my kerbals are no longer in bullet time :)
[08:30] <levo> wilee-nilee: but it works fine with gmail account
[08:30] <kakka> :D
[08:30] <ObrienDave> lol
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> levo, not sure.
[08:35] <help_me_boot> Hi all, hoping someone will be able to help me recover my MBR. I dual-boot windows7/Ubuntu and used grub2. I tried to reinstall windows but it gave me an error about the MBR, I booted into a live cd and removed the MBR (overwrote with /dev/zero) I now cannot boot anything... As last resort, I'd like to be able to recover my data off a seperate NTFS partition and start from scratch. I've tried "Boot Repair" but there is no 'reco
[08:36] <help_me_boot> I can't seem to be able to see my seperate NTFS partition from the live CD either
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, bootinfo summary url?
[08:37] <help_me_boot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369228/
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Shows no OS's at all, I suspect you broke the partition table using mbr overwrite, what was there before?
[08:39] <help_me_boot> Windows7/Ubuntu
[08:40] <help_me_boot> yeah I broke MBR, is there a way to fix it?
[08:40] <Morgawr> I am using an encrypted home directory but I want to remove the encryption and go back to a normal home directory, how do I do that?
[08:40] <Danato> i had a very similar problem till yesterday, but i cant tell for sure if its the same
[08:40] <help_me_boot> by pointing back to the partitions?
[08:41] <ObrienDave> have you tried boot-repair?
[08:41] <help_me_boot> yeah, but the 'recommended' option is missing altogether :/
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, This was a oem W8 to begin with, or a bulid with a uefi setup?
[08:42] <Danato> help_me_boot: my problem was that it would show all the disk as free space when i had it divided by partitions and one of the had windows installed, is that your case?
[08:42] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, gpt is "WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected"
[08:42] <help_me_boot> yes I believe so.. in GParted it shows as all unallocated space
[08:43] <Danato> yup probably the same
[08:43] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Is the bios set to legacy?
[08:43] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee, that was similiar to the error I got when trying to re-install windows on my windows partition
[08:43] <Danato> opening gparted would give me a warning that i had some gpt signature left
[08:43] <help_me_boot> I don't think so?
[08:44] <kaitrek> need help with NFS: I have server+client of SL v6.4 both work fine, I have another client Kubuntu 13.10 which has wrong user:group id permissions (4294967294:4294967294), all computers have the same user/group lists, idmapd has the same domain configured and running
[08:44] <kaitrek> solved it by changing group's name from nobody to nogroup in idmapd.conf
[08:44] <kaitrek> rpc.idmapd -fvvv showed me the problem right away, group doesn't exist
[08:45] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee, Danato -> is it normal for the recommended option of boot-repair to be missing altogether?
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, You are kinda lost, a sda mbr would be a msdos setup not a got which you had. In this circumstance I would set the bios to legacy, make a msdos partition table with gparted and install like normal. If the gpt is all cleaned out it should run in msdos like we all are familiar with with the mbr in the sda.
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> got=gpt*
[08:46] <ObrienDave> it's NOT an option. it's a package from a PPA
[08:46] <pnorman> !quantal
[08:46] <ObrienDave> help_me_boot it's NOT an option. it's a package from a PPA
[08:47]  * pnorman suspects those are not the right URLs
[08:47] <ObrienDave> pnorman those are correct for 12.04
[08:48] <pnorman> ObrienDave: sure, but not quantal which is what I asked about
[08:48] <ObrienDave> which would you like?
[08:49] <ObrienDave> OOPS, my bad LOL
[08:49] <pnorman> anyways, it's pretty obvious the URL pattern and I did manage to figure out the URL for 12.10
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !quantal
[08:49] <Danato> help_me_boot: ill try to find you what helped me solve my problem
[08:49] <ObrienDave> the URLs say 12.04 LMAO
[08:50] <buu> Can anyone tell me the difference between broadcom-sta-source and broadcom-sta-dkms?
[08:50] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: If I set the BIOS to legacy, how can I make a partition table with GParted. The main thing I am worried about is losing my data on my seperate NTFS partition
[08:51] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: Is there a way I can get to it from a live CD and copy it to an external before trying these changes?
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, does any partition show on the HD?
[08:52] <minimec> buu: the 'dkms' version should automatically generate a new kernel module on a kernel update... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS
[08:52] <StrangeNoises> help_me_boot, yes, using dd
[08:52] <StrangeNoises> ie: dd a whole partition to elsewhere
[08:52] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: In GParted the whole HD shows as 'unallocated' so I believe not
[08:53] <Danato> help_me_boot: is this similar to your problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/61939/ubuntu-installation-does-not-recognize-drive-partinioning
[08:53] <Guest16018> hello, after recent upgrade to ubuntu 13.10 i can't use buttons that bound to language switch in other apps
[08:53] <StrangeNoises> eg: soemthing like dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/mnt/ntfs-backup.dat
[08:53] <buu> minimec: And the -source one just generates the kernel module once?
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, exactly, so you are in recovery of some sort, not an area I can really advise with confidence.
[08:53] <StrangeNoises> (add a sensible bs param too to speed it up)
[08:53] <Guest16018> ie i had ctrl+alt+t in yakuake to create new tab
[08:54] <Guest16018> if i bind alt+shift to language switch i can't use nor alt nor shift in any other app
[08:54] <StrangeNoises> however, actual recovery process will still be fraught; eg: you'd need to recreate partition exact same as before to put the backup back, lots of ways it can go wrong, but that *is* how you can back up a partition with a live cd
[08:54] <minimec> buu: basically yes. I guess the 'source' package is also a dependency of the 'dkms' package.
[08:55] <buu> minimec: I see.
[08:55] <buu> minimec: I don't suppose you have any tips on debugging wireless speed?
[08:55] <Serus> Can anybody help me graphical artifacts when watching video on ubuntu? I'm on a laptop with 2 Graphics cards.
[08:55] <Serus> help me with*
[08:56] <Rory> Serus: Does your system have a make and model?
[08:56] <Danato> ok, ive got one problem with wicd. And a problem with the touchpad that showed up after the 13.10 update. Who can help me with one of them?
[08:56] <Serus> Rory: ?
[08:56] <Serus> Rory: you mean brand?
[08:56] <Rory> Serus: You're on "a laptop" - there are a lot of laptops out there, which one do you have? And which Ubuntu version?
[08:56] <Serus> Ah
[08:56] <paperke67> I have an Atheros Wireless Network Adapter (AR5212/AR5213), that I cann't get to work. This is the output of some statements : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/
[08:56] <minimec> buu: There are as much as 'solutions' as there are 'problems' when debbuging wireless...
[08:57] <buu> minimec: I'm using cutting edge tech and getting 30mbps =/
[08:57] <Serus> Rory: Asus K95VM-yz007v, ubuntu 12.04
[08:57] <help_me_boot> StrangeNoises: could you please tell me more,  How can I retrieve my data from my NTFS partition? should I be able to navigate to it by /dev/sda2
[08:57] <minimec> buu: Is the connection stable, once established?
[08:57] <Serus> help_me_boot: do you just want to access the data?
[08:58] <Rory> Serus: Do you have the Nvidia driver installed from the Additional Drivers tool?
[08:58] <buu> minimec: Sure
[08:58] <help_me_boot> Serus: I wish to copy my data from that NTFS partition to an ext HD and wipe my HD and start fresh. I just really need the data
[08:58] <Serus> Rory: yes
[08:58] <StrangeNoises> help_me_boot, because if you just want to backup *data*, just mount it in linux on the live cd and copy the files somewhere safe
[08:59] <Rory> Serus: What version, do you know? I think it says in the Additional Driver tool
[08:59] <Serus> help_me_boot: why? to get past EFI?
[08:59] <buu> minimec: And for some reason it can't see 2.4ghz networks ...
[08:59] <StrangeNoises> all my talk of dd is to preserve the whole partition intact while you repartition the drive. but that's complicated
[08:59] <Serus> Rory: 319 from the top of my head.
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> StrangeNoises, Serus his HS is unallocated from breaking the partition table.
[08:59] <s_faraday> hi guys
[08:59] <wilee-nilee> HD*
[09:00] <StrangeNoises> so it's already lost?
[09:00] <Serus> wilee-nilee: can you even mount correctly then?
[09:00] <help_me_boot> Serus: because I can no longer boot, Not sure my skills are up to re-building the partition table
[09:00] <s_faraday> how can I install boost library at ubuntu?
[09:00] <StrangeNoises> i don't know. i don't dual-boot to windows
[09:00] <help_me_boot> StrangeNoises: Sorry, could you please provide some steps for that?
[09:00] <Rory> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot Testdisk may get you that partition back.
[09:01] <Serus> help_me_boot: There are drive recovery tools available.
[09:01] <Serus> brb rebooting into ubuntu.
[09:01] <StrangeNoises> help_me_boot, i don't know enough about windows at that level. i just gave generic linux-based idea for backing up a whole partition, but the partition already has to exist in the partition table; if it doesn't... i'm out of ideas
[09:01] <Rory> Serano: Can you try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" in a terminal?
[09:02] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Make sure people that want to help know you are unallocated.
[09:03] <s_faraday> Rory: I downloaded the source file, how can I install it manualy?
[09:03] <Rory> s_faraday: Why do you want to? It is in the repositories which will save you many headaches
[09:04] <Rory> s_faraday: There will be instructions in the downloaded packages, perhaps called INSTALL or README, if you want to install from source
[09:04] <Serus> And I'm back
[09:04] <BlackDalek> will someone please tell me how to install this http://people.via.ecp.fr/~remi/soft/gimp/gimp_plugin_en.php3 ? I am getting this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, If you have a bootinfo recovery before this happened with exact partition sizes you can fix with that, or testdisk is commonly used.  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk and the photrec portion for images.
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> sorry bootinfo summary help_me_boot
[09:06] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: unfortunately not
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Testdisk may do it just fine, you have not messed with that partition right?
[09:06] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: Can I not somehow manually mount the partition from the live cd and drag/drop files to ext HD?
[09:07] <yeyeman> I have a 200gb partition which, if I set auto mount on startup, will make an error on the purple ubuntu loading screen
[09:07] <yeyeman> what may be the reason?
[09:07] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: no messing with the partition
[09:07] <yeyeman> its no problem accessing it after I'm logged in
[09:07] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, Not if it shows as unallocated as far as I know.
[09:07] <Serus> Rory, using version 319 of nvidia drivers
[09:08] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, testdisk is for this sort of situation though, it finds the partitions.
[09:08] <ObrienDave> yeyeman what is the error?
[09:09] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: I downloaded it but not sure how to run it
[09:09] <yeyeman> ObrienDave: its something about 'failed to mount press S to skip' etc
[09:09] <MiteshShah> Is there a any wayt to display pv style progressbar when install package via apt-get install <package_name>
[09:10] <Danato> has anybody seen this error? "Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages."
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, follow the testdisk wiki its pretty straight forward. here is the one I think to start with, a link from the page I sent you originally. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[09:10] <Serus> Please help me with my graphics issues, I get errors when watching video.
[09:10] <MiteshShah> How to display progress bar when installating software from apt-get like yum style
[09:11] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: Thanks! I'll have a read
[09:13] <Danato> wicd? Anyone?
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, I think you are in okay shape here, just go slowly.
[09:13] <BlackDalek> will someone please tell me how to install this http://people.via.ecp.fr/~remi/soft/gimp/gimp_plugin_en.php3 ? I am getting this - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:13] <wilee-nilee> Danato, So If I can ask why wicd?
[09:14] <paperke67> I have an Atheros Wireless Network Adapter (AR5212/AR5213), that I cann't get to work. This is the output of some statements : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6363869/
[09:15] <Danato> wilee-nilee: im trying to connect to a network and it doesnt work, so id like to give it a try with wicd
[09:15] <buu> BlackDalek: It appears busted.
[09:15] <Serus> Help please, I have the Asus K95VM-yv007z and I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I have video problems.
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> Danato, you tried with samba? I suspect this is just a problem fixable without wicd, niether of which I'm real up on, but this is a rather unusual effort.
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, YOU checked the ubuntu repos for this plugin?
[09:17] <Danato> wilee-nilee: Im guessing samba is a network manager too? ill give it a try then
[09:17] <ObrienDave> yeyeman oh, I get that a lot. I don't worry about that error. seems to be some kind of timing error
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I believe so many use it for connection with windows.
[09:19] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, can't find it
[09:19] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, has to be installed.
[09:19] <Serus> Help please, I have the Asus K95VM-yv007z and I'm using ubuntu 12.04. I have video problems.
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, sorry I was not remembering your issue
[09:20] <Rory> Serus: Did you install nvidia-current?
[09:20] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, I am trying to install the script-fu descreen plugin in GIMP, this first requires the FFT fast fourier transform plugin to be installed.. my pastebin is giving an error at the make command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369406/
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, I find this see if it is relevant. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1923716
[09:23] <Serus> Rory, You mean the latest drivers?
[09:23] <Rory> Serus: What happens when you run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" ?
[09:24] <Serus> downloading it
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> Serus, by running *that* command?
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> do that, don't go to nvidia site to download driver
[09:24] <StrangeNoises> (it can work too but is actually more complicated)
[09:26] <Serus> StrangeNoises, I didn't
[09:26] <Serus> I downloaded the drivers from the additional drivers thingy from system settings
[09:27] <Serus> Rory, Ok it's installed, what now?
[09:27] <StrangeNoises> install nvidia-current, delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf if anything from earlier attempts created it, and reboot. (you did reboot?)
[09:27] <Serus> ok I'll do that now
[09:28] <Serus> brb rebooting
[09:28] <StrangeNoises> hate to say it as i constitutionally prefer open source solutions but if you have nvidia graphics, 9/10 times installing nvidia-current and rebooting is the fix :-)
[09:28] <starnix> hello people
[09:29] <help_me_boot> wilee-nilee: This looks promising! I have to reboot now to test
[09:29] <StrangeNoises> that is a chunky laptop...
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> help_me_boot, cool
[09:34] <BlackDalek> wilee-nilee, that didn't help - I checked the Makefile as suggested in the thread, and the recommended change was already present.
[09:34] <Serus> Ok, I think something went wrong
[09:35] <Serus> It asked me if I wanted to go in low-graphics mode
[09:35] <Serus> and then I had to wait practically for ever
[09:35] <Serus> but luckily I can ctrl+alt+f1 and start the x server
[09:36] <Serus> anyway, now it doesn't see my graphics card anymore, what should I do now?
[09:38] <Serus> brb
[09:38] <Danato> wilee-nilee: Samba is not really what i was looking for, I'm trying to connect to a wifi network and not share files and stuff with windows
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> BlackDalek, ah, not sure here, may take awhile to get an answer here if at all.
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Do you have wifi at all?
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> with the network manager
[09:42] <Danato> wilee-nilee: yes, right now im using a network, but i wanna use another one, i can use it with windows but its not working with my ubuntu
[09:43] <StrangeNoises> Danato, that's odd then, as your hardware presumably works. have to ask: you *are* sure you typed the passphrase right?
[09:43] <wilee-nilee> Danato, Ah, well have you addressed that on the channel before the wicd attempt, really is my interest. I have used wicd years ago if the network manager just did not work is all.
[09:44] <StrangeNoises> yeah wicd used to be a solution when network manager fails us, but hopefully obsolete now
[09:44] <Danato> StrangeNoises: yes ive retyped it many times
[09:44] <Serus> Great
[09:45] <Serus> the display is 640*480
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> Danato, I have had to clear the password out to get it to work on occasion.
[09:45] <StrangeNoises> Serus: make sure /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ~/.nv* are deleted; start from clean X config
[09:45] <Danato> wilee-nilee: making it work would be great but i dont know how to fix it, and yes im pretty sure about my password
[09:45] <Danato> wilee-nilee: in fact i have to use the very same password to login the network im using right now
[09:45] <wilee-nilee> Danato, right but you have a password there for another right?
[09:46] <Serus> StrangeNoises, ok /etc/X11/xorg.conf is deleted
[09:46] <wilee-nilee> Just saying that for a strange reason I have had to clear it to get it to work, makes no sense in general but worked.
[09:46] <Danato> wilee-nilee: another what?
[09:46] <Serus> and ~/.nv/ too
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> and ~/.nvidia-settings-rc too
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> probably isn't there, but make sure...
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> Danato, look at the times we type sometimes phrases folow each other but are not related.
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> then reboot
[09:47] <Serus> how does one show hidden folders again?
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> just do it in commandline in terminal
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Serus: ALT+H I believe
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> (so much easier)
[09:47] <StrangeNoises> :-)
[09:48] <Serus> I mean from command line
[09:48] <Serus> I tried ls -x
[09:48] <StrangeNoises> ls -a
[09:48] <Serus> ah
[09:48]  * StrangeNoises doesn't even know what ls -x does...
[09:48] <StrangeNoises> list entries by lines instead of columns
[09:48] <Danato> wilee-nilee: although ive done this before, ill try to reconnect to that network right now and test it again
[09:49] <wilee-nilee> Danato, try to clear out any auto password then try the log to the network, is my point.
[09:49] <StrangeNoises> Danato, could it be using a weird encryption system? (where "weird" == "not known to network manager")
[09:49] <Serus> .nvidia-settings-rc no such file or directory
[09:50] <StrangeNoises> right, reboot
[09:50] <Serus> OK
[09:56] <darkstream89> hi all
[09:56] <darkstream89> i need some help
[09:56] <darkstream89> if its possible
[09:58] <darkstream89> some one please?
[09:58] <Serus> why can't I talk?
[09:58] <StrangeNoises> darkstream89: ask the question
[09:58] <minimec> darkstream89: Well... it is not possible as long as you don't tell us, where your problem actually is...
[09:59] <Serus> oh I can now
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: bro
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> is it working?
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: good job, now I don't have a display at all :P
[09:59] <darkstream89> in new on ubuntu on linux and all and i need some help for the begining
[09:59] <Serus> StrangeNoises: nope
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> hm
[09:59] <StrangeNoises> how are you online now?
[09:59] <Serus> desktop
[10:00] <Rory> !details | darkstream89
[10:00] <darkstream89> im on ubuntu 13.10
[10:00] <StrangeNoises> serus. hmm. should just work
[10:00] <darkstream89> cant you come on private its easier for me please
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> darkstream89: no, not how it works
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> ask the damn question
[10:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: that helps
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> serus: can you ssh into it?
[10:01] <darkstream89> ya sorry i never use irc
[10:01] <darkstream89> i never use linux
[10:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: is it on by default?
[10:01] <StrangeNoises> no :-) i just tend to set that up first thing
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> ok, so you get nothing at all now. can you ctrl-alt-f1 and get to commandline?
[10:02] <minimec> darkstream89: Start with some 'sirst steps' tutorial... https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=ubuntu%20first%20steps&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=
[10:02] <Serus> I did that yes
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> ok, sudo apt-get install pastebinit ssh
[10:02] <darkstream89> i try but my english are not good
[10:02] <darkstream89> im french
[10:02] <Rory> darkstream89: You haven't actualy said what the problem is yet
[10:02] <darkstream89> ok one of my problem is
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> the first is a convenient pastebin utility, i'll ask you to paste something in a bit. the latter enables ssh server so you can log in remotely from your desktop, which will be more convenient while X isn't running
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I can ssh into my pi, doesn't that mean ssh is already installed?
[10:03] <darkstream89> i try to instal desura
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> not interestedin your pi
[10:03] <darkstream89> but its dont work
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I mean I can SSH from ubuntu to my pi
[10:03] <darkstream89> i get not loading image can be found
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> ssh *client* is installed by default, *server* isn't
[10:03] <darkstream89> something like this
[10:03] <minimec> darkstream89: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-desura-gaming-client-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[10:03] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I see
[10:04] <darkstream89> thanks i will look and i come back
[10:04] <EugenA> hi, we have PCs (windows) and I need to create centralized management of users which should be able to login on windows pc and have access to some shares
[10:04] <EugenA> what is the best way to do it?
[10:07] <cheesus> Does anyone here have experience with Ubuntu and dwm?
[10:07] <dmitry> Тут русские есть?
[10:08] <cheesus> nei, engelsk :<
[10:08] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Ok I'm in
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> installed pastebinit too?
[10:08] <Serus> yes
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> and paste the url here
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> also, lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:09] <Serus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369634/
[10:09] <StrangeNoises> but that'll just produce one line of output (if we're lucky) so no need for pastebin
[10:09] <Serus> nvidia               9430169  0 drm                   287564  3 nvidia,i915,drm_kms_helper
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> cheesus: too basic for me, openbox all the way :)
[10:10] <StrangeNoises> apt-cache policy nvidia-current | pastebinit
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Serus: looks like you have dual GPUs (Intel and Nvidia), is taht right?
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: correct
[10:11] <StrangeNoises> ActionParsnip: i was wondering if that, but asus page on the laptop didn't say it had that
[10:11] <StrangeNoises> that could explain a lot!
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Serus: do you have bumblebee installed?
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: no
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Serus: you'll need it to get some sort of support for that mess
[10:11] <kaitrek> i have a problem, i'm running ZFS, with tank/data which is mounted to /data, but I just tried putting lots of files in /data and it all got stored onto /, not /data on the ZFS
[10:11] <kaitrek> why is /data being stored into / and not onto ZFS which is mounted on /data
[10:11] <Serus> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> serus; sorry, i don't know anything about dual-gpu issues; this just went beyond me :-)
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> was looking for a more normal cause :-)
[10:12] <StrangeNoises> never tried installing linux on a machine that has that
[10:12] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Can I reset it back to install settings?
[10:13] <StrangeNoises> presumably that was unsatisfactory or you would have left it there
[10:13] <Serus> StrangeNoises: I atleast had the nividia driver working and I atleast had a display
[10:14] <StrangeNoises> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2177733 looks useful, first thing is as ActionParsnip says, bumblebee, whatever that is. also, you might have more luck with a newer ubuntu
[10:14] <StrangeNoises> if you're on 12.04 now
[10:15] <troulouliou_dev> hi i want to download the cinnamon official source code; what m a doing wrong ? : apt-get source -t o=Ubuntu cinnamon
[10:15] <troulouliou_dev> E: Ignore unavailable target release 'o=Ubuntu' of package 'cinnamon'
[10:16] <Rory> troulouliou_dev: Does it work without the "-t o=Ubuntu" ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: cinnamon is in the repos now....
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, yes but i have my pinning set on another ppa then the main repo for this package
[10:17] <StrangeNoises> serus: https://ananduvr.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/making-ubuntu-work-perfectly-on-asus-eeepc-1015pn/ probably also describes a fix to what you want; is also asus even though lower spec but good chance the same solution applies; but again, it boils down to using bumblebee
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, yes but it download the ppa package by default
[10:18] <troulouliou_dev> i want to download the one from the main repos
[10:18] <Rory> troulouliou_dev: is the "Ubuntu" there case-sensitive? Try with o=ubuntu
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: only is you add the ppa
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: remove the ppa then....
[10:18] <Serus> StrangeNoises: But I need a screen for that first don't I?
[10:18] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, ?? i just want the source of the main package to make a diff
[10:19] <StrangeNoises> well, hmm, i should have said rename xorg.conf to something else instead of deleting it. i don't suppose you did. :-}
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, in /var/lib/apt/lists/***Release ; the origin is Ubuntu
[10:19] <StrangeNoises> but you may not need a screen anyway; can probably do it all over ssh
[10:19] <Danato> im back
[10:19] <vijaya> I want to cross compile Arora browser for panda baord.
[10:19] <vijaya> I s there any can tell me
[10:20] <Danato> StrangeNoises: my network manager is freezing when i try to configure my network
[10:20] <troulouliou_dev> Rory, ha ok sources are not subject to pinning preferences ... got it
[10:20] <MarkDavis> Hi
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> vijaya: http://code.google.com/p/arora/wiki/source    may help
[10:20] <nicklas_> hello, if i install another de, like xfce or e, how can i make that start? i cant seem too find the session chooser at login screen
[10:21] <MarkDavis> I want to install windows, but I've already installed Ubuntu, can I restore the access to Ubuntu later?
[10:21] <Rory> !grub | MarkDavis the last link here
[10:21] <Rory> MarkDavis: Sorry the first one
[10:21] <MarkDavis> ok, thx
[10:21] <kaitrek> nvm looks like zfs wasn't mounted
[10:21] <MarkDavis> so that's not a problem
[10:21] <Guest36391> Hi. 12.04 LTS. How can I determine in a shell script what workspace number my video display is showing?  wmctrl didn't help
[10:21] <Serus> StrangeNoises: No I didn't, how do I get it back?
[10:21] <StrangeNoises> serus: maybe just try this over ssh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bumblebee; reboot. but you'll have to do your own reading really; i don't have a system i can try this stuff on, and i should stop googling for you now ;-P
[10:21] <vijaya_> not it was not help full
[10:21] <kaitrek> instead dirs were created on top
[10:22] <Serus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work
[10:22] <StrangeNoises> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[10:24] <dr_dissector> Hi all
[10:24] <dr_dissector> Has anybody tried Ubuntu phone yet?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> !phone
[10:26] <StrangeNoises> in other words, "no"
[10:26] <StrangeNoises> ;-)
[10:26] <dr_dissector> thx
[10:29] <Serus> Well I got a login screen
[10:29] <Serus> but now when I log it immedeately returns to the login screen
[10:30] <StrangeNoises> serus: try deleting ~/.Xauthority. rings a bell, possibly not related to the whole dual-gpu stuff as i think i had that
[10:34] <Rory> Serus: Yes, deleting ~/.Xauthority will fix that login issue
[10:35] <george_> hey how do I get name
[10:36] <george_> guess I got one
[10:36] <DJones> george_: You'll need to be a bit more specific, what name are you after
[10:36] <george_> nickname
[10:37] <Danato> StrangeNoises: I found a possible solution for my wifi problem, but i might need some help with it
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> Danato: i may not be of use; i don't have a lot of wifi/linux experience
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> (my laptop is a mac)
[10:37] <DJones> george_: If its you're IRC nickname you're asking about, the best place to ask would be in #freenode thats the support channel for this IRC network
[10:37] <StrangeNoises> and my linux machines are all wired
[10:38] <Danato> StrangeNoises: shouldnt be much of a problem, its not a linux specific problem
[10:38] <george_> thanks
[10:38] <Serus> Yeah, I'm reinstalling
[10:38] <Danato> StrangeNoises: just take a look https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1168293
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Serus: try using gksudo with GUI apps rather tahn sudo, you wont screw up the  ~/.Xauthority file
[10:39] <StrangeNoises> Serus: maybe install 13.10 then, if you're going to that trouble
[10:39] <StrangeNoises> but also, what ActionParsnip said. (the commands i was saying use sudo for weren't gui)
[10:40] <Danato> StrangeNoises: the last post, its similar to mine but idk exactly what to modify
[10:40] <Serus> I didn't use sudo for GUI
[10:40] <StrangeNoises> Danato: i don't know this stuff at all :-)
[10:40] <Danato> StrangeNoises: ok, thanks anyways
[10:43] <lone> Can I update from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to Ubuntu 13.10?Pls
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> lone: you will need to upgrade to 13.04 first
[10:44] <StrangeNoises> do it one version at a time basically
[10:44] <DJones> lone: You need to go to 12.10, then 13.04 then 13.10 (from 12.04)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> lone: 13.10 isnt LTS, so only supported 9 months. 12.04 is LTS and supported til April 2017
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> lone: why are you wanting to upgrade?
[10:45] <lone> I'm facing some problems in 12.04 LTS
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> lone: what problems?
[10:46] <ALESSIOITALIA> Ciao a tutti
[10:46] <lone> My 12.04 now for days dont recognise my speakers?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> lone: ran this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369779/
[10:47] <lone> So I can't control volume level or anything related to sound.
[10:48] <FTA_96> hello
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> lone: have you sen that command?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> FTA_96: hi
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> *seen
[10:48] <lone> no
[10:49] <FTA_96> i have a question, i got ubuntu touch, how do i dock?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> lone: so you havent read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> lone: what have you been doing to fix sound if you havent seen that page!?
[10:49] <cfhowlett> !touch|FTA_96,
[10:49] <lone> where to upload problem pic?
[10:49] <FTA_96> thx
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> lone: imageshack or similar
[10:58] <Danato> this network thing is biting my ass :/ after looking for a while i found that its a bug reported by some ppl already
[10:59] <ljunggren> what network thing
[10:59] <ljunggren> Danato,
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1242740
[11:01] <Serus> StrangeNoises: no offense, but I'm switching distros. I wanted to install linux mint at first, but seems mint debian (the distro I went with first) doesn't support EFI. So ubuntu was kind of a fallback, but seeing mint 15 works with EFI I'd rather use that. I'm more a fan of the cinnamon desktop. This has nothing to do with you, but seeing I need to reinstall anyway I rather go with I what I
[11:01] <Serus> wanted in the first place.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Danato: tried wicd instead of network manaer?
[11:02] <ljunggren> oh
[11:02] <Danato> been trying to get help to install it here for over 10 hours now but no luck
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> Serus: remember, mint's support is separate from Ubuntu's
[11:03] <Danato> I actually installed wicd but i get an error when i install it
[11:03] <ljunggren> Danato, i tought it was something different because i got issues with cable internet today.. can't play games because of network issues and i don'ät use a router
[11:03] <Danato> sorry *when i try to run it
[11:04] <Serus> ActionParsnip: Ofcourse, but I'm just notifying him I'm switching. Since I brought the current install into a state where I need to reinstall anyway if I don't want to put too much effort in it.
[11:04] <Danato> ActionParsnip do you know a thing or two about wicd? maybe you could help me
[11:05] <vijaya_> is there any one can provide me for steps for compiling any web browser for panda baord
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Danato: in what way
[11:06] <Danato> just running it would be great, i keep getting an error when i try
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Danato: install wicd, uninstall network-manager* and reboot
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Danato: you dont need to 'run it' just like you don't 'run' network manager
[11:07] <Danato> ActionParsnip this error Could not connect to wicd's D-Bus interface. Check the wicd log for error messages. site:ubuntuforums.org
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Danato: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:08] <Danato> ActionParsnip: wait i reinstalled network manager, should i have wicd installed again for that?
[11:08] <Serus> StrangeNoises: Anyway, thanks for the help.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Danato: no the comamnd will run even if you have neither :)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Danato: do you connect to the web with a wired connection or wireless?
[11:09] <Danato> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> Danato: do you connect to the web with a wired connection or wireless?
 wireless
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Danato: hmmm, which wifi chip?
[11:13] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  ok i forgot the command to check that
[11:13] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  im using a wifi network right now, but i wanna connect to another one, its not allowing me on ubuntu, i can connect with windows though
[11:14] <xyzwhatever> hi I freshly installed ubuntu 13.10,  and it keeps freezing for no reason or randomly when i try to click something like a text file.... then the mouse doesnt move anymore i can only hit the reset button....    how can I find a error log or anything I dont even know where to start?? ;(
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> Danato: sudo lshw -C network
[11:15] <Zorky> Can anyone answer this question. I want to create a custom desktop for when i create a new user. i searched the web. and could only find that i need to put files into /etc/skel But what files do i need to put in there?
[11:16] <akis63> hi all. does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:16] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  product: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[11:16] <Danato>        vendor: Qualcomm Atheros
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: those files will be put into every new user you make, so whatever you want. If you make a new user and setup the web browser, you can copy the browser config folder to /etc/skel and every new user will get that config folder
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: you may need to chown it to some other user but just use the other files etc as example
[11:19] <Zorky> so what file do i copy? everything inside the users folder in /home/user into /etc/skel/?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Danato: Zorky just the browser config folder if you only want to config browser, if you want to configure other apps, copy those to the same place in /etc/skel
[11:23] <Danato> ActionParsnip:  i wanna configure a wifi-network
[11:23] <sventon> hi all, I been following the tutorial at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but cant boot the USB
[11:23] <whitebyte> what does ls > dirlist 2>&1 mean ?
[11:24] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  thanks
[11:24] <akis63> does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:24] <sventon> MD5 sums are the same on my usb image and the ubuntu .iso file
[11:24] <Rory> sventon: Do you get an error message when you try?
[11:25] <sventon> I get a pop up in OSX saying that the disk is not readable. I think that is normal ?
[11:26] <rajrajraj> where are program files stored in ubuntu?
[11:26] <Rory> rajrajraj: in /usr/bin
[11:27] <rajrajraj> Rory: those are just executable files
[11:27] <Rory> rajrajraj: What are you looking for?
[11:27] <rajrajraj> Rory: the whole package/software with files that i have installed
[11:27] <Rory> sventon: That's probably normal. When you reboot and select to boot from USB, what happens?
[11:27] <whitebyte> in ls > dirlist 2>&1  what does 2>&1 mean ?
[11:27] <Rory> rajrajraj: The executable is in /usr/bin. Configuration files usually go somewhere in /etc
[11:28] <xyzwhatever> weird, my new ubuntu crashes al lthe time.... i go to my android phone, it also crashes - it never crashed before - ubuntu infected it??
[11:28] <Rory> rajrajraj: What are you actually looking for?
[11:28] <sventon> Rory: The disk can't be found. I can only select the disk with OSX installed
[11:28] <sventon> no errors
[11:28] <Rory> sventon: What hardware do you have?
[11:28] <rajrajraj> Rory: i am looking for the header files used in NS2 which is installed in my ubuntu 12.10
[11:29] <Rory> rajrajraj: Header files are usually in /usr/include/
[11:29] <bekks> xyzwhatever: "crashes" is pretty uncertain. What is happening exactly?
[11:29] <rajrajraj> Rory: how would i know which ones are related to ns2
[11:30] <sventon> Rory:  MacBook 7,1  OSX 10.6.8
[11:31] <rajrajraj> Rory: you there?
[11:31] <Rory> sventon: From Apple's docs: If you're using a MacBook or MacBook Pro, try using a different USB port if you cannot startup from the external USB storage device
[11:31] <bstarek> hello all
[11:31] <cfhowlett> bstarek, greetings
[11:32] <Rory> rajrajraj: I don't know which were put there by ns2
[11:32] <rajrajraj> Rory: you there??
[11:32] <rajrajraj> Rory: what do you mean?
[11:32] <Rory> Patience is a virtue, young padawan
[11:33] <sventon> Rory: I only have two ports and I think I tried both, Is there no way to test the USB stick using a vm. I have virutualbox installed
[11:33] <sventon> ?
[11:33] <bstarek> I have a general about CUPS, this might not be the place.....but im still going to ask it: I have a PPD file corresponding to my epson printer, would i just need to link through CUPS for it to work? :)
[11:33] <bekks> sventon: There is. Create a vm, create a raw device mapping, boot the vm. Not that easy as you think.
[11:33] <Rory> sventon: It's odd that it doesn't even show in the list of devices to boot from; it would show even if there was nothing at all on the USB drive
[11:34] <CatKiller> bstarek: Try ##cups
[11:34] <CatKiller> Rory: Startup disks on a Mac only show if there is something to boot from
[11:34] <buu> AUGH. LINUX.
[11:35] <sventon> Rory: hmm , wait
[11:35] <zzzz> ciao
[11:35] <zzzz> !list
[11:35] <CatKiller> Rory: Making a bootable Ubuntu USB key on Mac OS X is hard. It rarely works. Better use one made with pendrivelinux or something that works better
[11:35] <bstarek> CatKiller: will do thanks
[11:35] <CatKiller> Rory: I've had lots of trouble just making this work (by dd'ing the iso to the key) while when the key is made with a proper bootloader on a MBR (not an iso) it works fine.
[11:36] <Rory> rajrajraj: This is a list of every file created by installing the "ns2" package http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369966/
[11:36] <sventon> Rory:  I will try to use both my USB ports then rebooting, hope you are here if I have to come back
[11:37] <Rory> sventon: Sadly I have little else to do
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> ok my stupid ubuntu 13.10 keeps freezing after a few minutes, first the screen is frozen, i can still move the mouse arrow but nothing responds neither does any keyboard comman, after a minute or so also the mouse is frozen,  only way is hard reset....... what can I do??
[11:37] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Is it a fresh installation?
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> yes
[11:37] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Does the issue occur when you log in as the Guest user from the login screen?
[11:37] <xyzwhatever> I dont know, why should that be different? i can try...
[11:38] <akis63> does anyone know why 'activity log manager' cannot record browsers activity?
[11:38] <vijaya_> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/vijaya/screen/STB_VIKAS/openbricks_panda_new/build/build.pandaboard.eglibc/qt-4.7.4/config.tests/unix/mysql'
[11:38] <vijaya_> MySQL (thread-unsafe) disabled.
[11:38] <vijaya_> MySQL support cannot be enabled due to functionality tests!
[11:38] <vijaya_> i am not able to compile qt for pandabaord
[11:39] <bekks> vijaya_: Then you should contact the pandaboard support - or will the pandaboard run ubuntu?
[11:39] <samhi> hi
[11:39] <cfhowlett> samhi, greetings
[11:40] <xyzwhatever> Rory it also happens with guest user
[11:41] <xyzwhatever> maybe its faster if i install lubuntu and hope some bloatware thing of ubuntu is causing it...
[11:42] <Rory> xyzwhatever: Lubuntu or Xubuntu is often more appropriate for older hardware
[11:42] <xyzwhatever> well its a very new 8 core computer
[11:42] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, unlikely, but just in case .. the easy test is to install LXDE (lubuntu's window manager) into ubuntu.   Logout.  choose lxde session.  login.
[11:42] <ianmac1> I'll second that. xubuntu was quite ice the times I used it earlier this year
[11:43] <ianmac1> s/ice/nice/
[11:43] <rajrajraj> Rory: thanks but could you tell me how did you find tit
[11:43] <rajrajraj> Rory: thanks but could you tell me how did you find it*
[11:43] <xyzwhatever> oh cool how can I install lxle??
[11:43] <Rory> rajrajraj: I ran the command: dpkg-deb --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/ns2_2.35+dfsg-1_amd64.deb
[11:43] <Rory> xyzwhatever: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <mad_> Someone with a launchpad account could post to this bugreport: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+login?comments=all  and  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1028617  that the solution is:  http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/90w-UltraSlim-adapter-leads-to-unusable-jumpy-touchpad/m-p/436833#U436833  . I want to share the solution but do not w
[11:43] <mad_> register. Be nice and help the others by posting this link.
[11:43] <xyzwhatever> can I also get lxle instead of lxde?
[11:44] <bekks> xyzwhatever: whats "lxle"?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> xyzwhatever, of course
[11:44] <Rory> xyzwhatever: I'm not familiar with lxle
[11:44] <xyzwhatever> its more leightweight than lubuntu
[11:44] <rajrajraj> Rory: which does not work in mine, why ? :(
[11:44] <bekks> xyzwhatever: Which desktop environment is it using?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> xyzwhatever: you do need quite powerful hardware to run the standard Unity desktop - it's blazingly fast on my 1.8GHz Core 2 Duo with 1G of RAM, but much less than that and performance falls off rapidly
[11:44] <xyzwhatever> dunno
[11:44] <Rory> rajrajraj: Does that .deb file exist on your system?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> 8 core computer should run unity/ubuntu without hiccups
[11:45] <ikonia> the graphics card is more important than cpu
[11:45] <xyzwhatever> or maybe ubuntu didnt recognize the ssd
[11:45] <Rory> rajrajraj: /var/cache/apt/archives/ is where apt-get stores its downloaded packages. The actual deb file might be names differently on your system
[11:45] <rajrajraj> Rory:  i dont know if it does or not, all i know is i can run programms using ns prefix, that means ns is working
[11:45] <ianmac1> cfhowlett, I would think so. I'm running ubuntu 13.10 on a dual core celeron laptop
[11:45] <ianmac1> no probs here
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ianmac1, nice ...
[11:45] <Rory> rajrajraj: dpkg-deb --contents /var/cache/apt/archives/ns2 then hit [TAB] to complete the filename
[11:46] <Rory> rajrajraj: It won't be drastically different from the pastebin I gave you though
[11:46] <ianmac1> One thing I love about ubuntu.. it runs great on old hardware that other OS's won't even touch
[11:47] <rajrajraj> apt_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb apt-transport-https_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb apt-utils_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb gnupg_1.4.11-3ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb gpgv_1.4.11-3ubuntu4.3_amd64.deb libapt-inst1.5_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb libapt-pkg4.12_0.9.7.5ubuntu5.6_amd64.deb lock partial vim_2%3a7.3.547-4ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb vim-runtime_2%3a7.3.547-4ubuntu1.1_all.deb is the result of ls command in  /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:48] <Rory> rajrajraj: apt-get download ns2
[11:48] <Rory> rajrajraj: Then the .deb file will be placed in the current directory
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: then you can run "dpkg-deb --contents" on it
[11:49] <rajrajraj> Rory: but then how am i able to run ns
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: .deb files are just installer packages
[11:49] <rajrajraj> Rory: that means it is stored somewhere, like in windows we have "search" do we have it in here too'
[11:49] <Rory> rajrajraj: Once it's been installed you can delete them, you have probably run "sudo apt-get clean" which cleared out the cache
[11:50] <Rory> rajrajraj: I think this conversation is probably pointless, what is the actual goal you're trying to achieve overall?
[11:50] <rajrajraj> Rory: like in windows we have program files, what do we have in linux/ubuntu
[11:50] <rajrajraj> Rory: i need to manipulate the Agent.h file in NS2
[11:50] <bekks> rajrajraj: In linux we have a totally differeny hirarchy structure.
[11:51] <rajrajraj> bekks: i know but similar to program files we muct be having something, am i wrong
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: the file sructure is made so that shared libs are only stored once and only loaded into RAM once
[11:51] <bekks> rajrajraj: You are wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:51] <Zorky> Where is the file located in the users home folder. that controls the resolution?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: binaries will live in /usr/bin amonst other places and libs will be in a few agreed places too but there is no single folder where each application is stored, its very wasteful
[11:52] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip: ok fine could you just tell me where i can find header files related to NS2 , that is all i want
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> rajrajraj: what is NS2?
[11:53] <Rory> rajrajraj: If you want to change the source code before installing, you have to download the source, make your modifications, and then compile it
[11:53] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip: it is a software "Network Simulator" version 2, i installed it using sudo apt-get install ns
[11:53] <Rory> rajrajraj: apt-get install will install just already-compiled binaries
[11:54] <xyzwhatever> Rory , no problem with lubuntu desktop so far.... I suspect it was something with the nvidia driver   and the transparency stuff of ubuntu
[11:54] <Rory> !yay | xyzwhatever
[11:54] <rajrajraj> Rory: i know that, but it does have header files like we have in c/c++
[11:54] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you can look at the package contents.
[11:54] <Rory> rajrajraj: Yes but they are part of the source code used to compile the software
[11:54] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  You answered my question before. so maybe you can answer this. There is a file located in the users home folder. that controls the resolution that the user choosed for his user. do you know what file does this?
[11:54] <rajrajraj> ActionParsnip:  Rory its a programming languaage kind of thing
[11:55] <Rory> rajrajraj: So it's do do with the actual usage of ns2? I don't know anything about the program unfortunately so I can't help you use it
[11:55] <bekks> Rory: The package installs header files as well - thats not the same as "the source code".
[11:55] <Rory> bekks: This is a list of every file created by installing the "ns2" package http://paste.ubuntu.com/6369966/
[11:56] <rajrajraj> bekks: i have the source code too, there i can find the Agent.h , but then i shall have to re build the code, and that could be tedious job
[11:56] <rajrajraj> Rory:  do you know c/c++
[11:56] <Rory> rajrajraj: Not in-depth, it depends what you want to modify. #c will certainly be a more appropriate channel to ask about that than here
[11:56] <bekks> rajrajraj: If the package doesnt install the header files, you have to patch the package to do so.
[11:57] <Rory> rajrajraj: We can help you compile it as a package once you have made your changes, but as far as editing the code to make it do what you want goes, you're on your own :)
[11:58] <rajrajraj> Rory: where are the header files of gcc compiler stored in  ubuntu. that we include, for e.g. #include<stdio.h>
[11:58] <bekks> rajrajraj: You will not find your desired files there. Look at the content of your ns2 package please:
[11:58] <bekks> rajrajraj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/amd64/ns2/filelist
[11:58] <rajrajraj> bekks: it has installed the header file, all i do not know is where?
[11:59] <bekks> rajrajraj: It hasnt installed the header file, not at all.
[11:59] <Rory> rajrajraj: That link from bekks above shows every single file and folder that is created by installing the ns2 package
[11:59] <rajrajraj> bekks: how can you be so sure that header file does not exist in my pc,  but i can tell you that while making programs i have used Agent which is declared in Agent.h
[12:00] <bekks> rajrajraj: I am so sure because I looked at the content of the package, which I told you to do, too.
[12:00] <Rory> bekks: Yes but that's not created by ns2. You can find files by issuing "sudo updatedb" to update the indext and then "locate agent.h"
[12:00] <Rory> rajrajraj: ^
[12:00] <bekks> rajrajraj: If you manually created that file somewhere, thats your own job then.
[12:01] <bekks> rajrajraj: Whereever you created it, there you will find it.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Zorky: not sure tbh, i let udev do its thing, or use xorg.conf
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !find ns2
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !info ns2
[12:02] <rajrajraj> alright, thanks, i shall find out another way. thanks bekks , Rory , etc
[12:02] <Rory> good luck rajrajraj
[12:03] <rajrajraj> ty
[12:03] <bekks> rajrajraj: This is the list of files called "agent.h" installed by ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=agent.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=raring&arch=any
[12:03] <illizian> Morning, would anyone be able to advise on how to install a specific version of PHP on my laptop? I need to install 5.4.9-4ubuntu2.2 as this is the version on my web server at the moment
[12:03] <bekks> rajrajraj: So you put that file somewhere where it was found by locate, but that had nothing to do with ubuntu packages.
[12:04] <Zorky> ActionParsnip:  Hmm. my problem is. that each user gets the max resolution there is. so they can't click on anything. because the screen is centered im trying to set a default resolution for all users that is easy to change
[12:04] <bekks> illizian: So whats your webserver running, Ubuntu?
[12:04] <illizian> apologies - yes, it is
[12:04] <rajrajraj> bekks: you mean to say that none of them belong to ns2, and you are right. i am really running out of luck, by the way, how did you find all the Agent.h files
[12:04] <illizian> my laptop is technically Elementary which is based on 12.04
[12:04] <hangermeet_84f> (bsrdjwdzq3ch says) .
[12:05] <bekks> rajrajraj: I looked at the packages.ubuntu.com website.
[12:06] <illizian> bekks: The web server is running 12.04
[12:06] <rajrajraj> bekks: like in windows we have "search" for searching a particular file or folder, so do we have similar thing in ubuntu ?
[12:06] <bekks> illizian: Then ask the elementary support please, we dont support it in here. If you want the same packages, install Ubbuntu 12.04
[12:06] <bekks> rajrajraj: We have, the command is called "find".
[12:07] <rajrajraj> bekks: i find it very helpless, t always gives me no result or only the files and folders in current directory
[12:07] <photon> Is there any way I can install gcc 4.9 on 13.10 with backports?
[12:07] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you are not using it correctly. It always finds everything I need.
[12:08] <rajrajraj> could you tell me the way i should use it
[12:08] <rajrajraj> plz
[12:08] <krizoek> hi. anyone here know of any gui firewall log analyzer that would interpret network activities?
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: "find" on its own will list all the files in the current directory
[12:09] <bekks> rajrajraj: Say you want to search for "agent.h" or whatever it may be named (caps, mixed small letters and caps, etc), then you could use this: find / -type f -iname "agent.h"
[12:09] <bekks> Rory: Find does a lot more than just looking at the current directory.
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: A standard syntax for finding files across the system would be "sudo find / -type f -name *.h" which would find all the files ending in .h for example
[12:09] <Rory> rajrajraj: "find" on its own will list all the files in the current directory and all subdirectories, recursively
[12:10] <bekks> Rory: sudo find is bad idea, since it isnt needed.
[12:10] <Rory> bekks: Is that true? If you run "find" it won't traverse directories it has no read access to because it can't, surely?
[12:10] <nibbler_> bekks: it is needed to descend into certain directories
[12:10] <illizian> bekks: ok thanks... I have asked in there :P
[12:10] <nibbler_> Rory: but *.h should be quoted, to avoid possible shell expansion
[12:11] <bekks> Rory: NAme one directory where you havent read access by default. There is only one, and you will never need access to it as user. Do you know which is it?
[12:11] <Rory> /root
[12:11] <pers3us> rajrajraj: Both bekks and Rory explained you what find does, I actually want to tell you about man command. If you are not sure what a command should do, you should always do man <command name>, example:  man find
[12:11] <bekks> Rory: Correct. So you dont need sudo.
[12:12] <rajrajraj> Rory: bekks thanks it is working, but yeah slow, anyways i shall wait
[12:12] <bekks> rajrajraj: It searches all files, regardless of wether updatdb already put them into some database or whatever. find inspects your filesystem.
[12:12] <nibbler_> rajrajraj: you can use locate, this needs to update the db from time to time, which takes as much time a find i'd guess, but allows for quick searching
[12:13] <bekks> nibbler_: And, updatedb does not track all directories.
[12:13] <rajrajraj> pers3us: i know man and info both which gives too too much of information, if i need a para to read, i will have to read all the pages to exactly understand what it does, and  by the way for a new bie it is really difficult to understand what is returned by man or info
[12:13] <Rory> bekks: This is a list of "permission denied" errors resulting from running the command "find /" on this machine http://rory.sh/files/find_errors.txt
[12:14] <bekks> Rory: Do you really expect headers files to be in /var/spool /var/log /run /proc etc.?
[12:14] <rajrajraj> Rory: just use sudo then "permission denied" errror wont be there any more
[12:14] <pers3us> rajrajraj: True that, but that is how you improve yourself.
[12:14] <bekks> rajrajraj: If so, your system is broken hopelessly.
[12:14] <Rory> bekks: No of course not. And anyway the annoynance here is the peppering of the console with error output, so doing "find..." 2>/dev/null would be fine anyway
[12:15] <Rory> bekks: It was more to avoid having to pick useful results out of lines of errors, rather than actually needing to traverse those directories
[12:16] <rajrajraj> bekks: what does it mean by "broken helplessly"
[12:16] <bekks> Rory: For avoiding it, you would use: find /lib /lib32 /lib64 /usr /opt instead
[12:16] <bekks> rajrajraj: Wasnt for you, I mistabbed. :)
[12:17] <Rory> Anyway, this is why we have "locate" =)
[12:17] <rajrajraj> pers3us: you know we never had to read so hard to learn windows OS, its like very simple to use and every thing. dont get me wrong all i am saying is for me and other i know, it is really difficult to understand ubuntu
[12:18] <rajrajraj> bekks: ok
[12:18] <ianmac1> rajrajraj, yes, a skateboard is much easier to use than a fighter jet ;)
[12:18] <krizoek> hi. anyone here know of any graphical firewall log/realtime analyzer that would interpret network activities? like in this picture http://img.generation-nt.com/blackice-defender-567x438_09023701B600026169.png
[12:18] <bekks> rajrajraj: Thats because there is a learning curve in Ubuntu - if you want to knoe how things work, there is more to do than just clicking with your mouse.
[12:18] <ianmac1> bekks +1
[12:19] <bekks> ianmac1: Looking at 1280 jumps or stuff - I prefer the jet.
[12:19] <ianmac1> me too
[12:19] <Rory> rajrajraj: For what it's worth, if I tried doing anything in-depth like this on Windows I'd be worse than useless. One isn't inherently easier than the other; it's just that you learned computers on Windows and not Linux
[12:19] <cfhowlett> rajrajraj, windows was designed to be idiot proof.  Also, you have much more experience with windows but you weren't BORN knowing it.  There was a learning curve whether you recall it or not.
[12:19] <rajrajraj> bekks:  i understand that, thats why i am using ubuntu now a days, but due to some resposibility i have to do things which i am not even aware of, for e.g. "finding the agent.h file and changing its content"
[12:19] <ianmac1> I learned more about hardware and software in my first year of using Ubuntu than I did in 10 years of using Windows
[12:20] <rajrajraj> cfhowlett: i know that
[12:20] <cfhowlett> ianmac1, that's what happens when you become your own sysadmin
[12:20] <cfhowlett> :0
[12:20] <Rory> krizoek: You could maybe take a look at Snort https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SnortIDS
[12:21] <krizoek> ty :)
[12:21] <bekks> rajrajraj: Then you should be the one who knows where you put it, since Ubuntu didnt do it.
[12:23] <rajrajraj> bekks:  alright i gotta go now thanks for your kind help
[12:23] <rajrajraj> gotta go bye
[12:24] <simonsimcity> Hi, all
[12:24] <simonsimcity> Is there a reason, why a fresh Ubuntu Server installation should not answer to a ping?
[12:25] <bekks> simonsimcity: There is a firewall, that may prevent it. Or you misconfigured the network settings.
[12:25] <simonsimcity> Yesterday I already had an issue with this machine, that it constantly switched back to an address it once received by the DHCP-server, even so I put in a static address ...
[12:26] <Rory> simonsimcity: Can you ping other machines on the network *from* the server? ie is it actually sucesfully connected to your network?
[12:26] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then you have a network configuration issue most likely.
[12:26] <simonsimcity> Rory: I can ping other machines in this network and can neither ping the machine from one of the others in the same network.
[12:27] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then you have a network configuration issue most likely.
[12:27] <Rory> simonsimcity: You can run the "sudo ifconfig" command and look for the "inet address" field that will tell you the machine's IP, is it what you are expecting?
[12:27] <simonsimcity> bekks: Do you have an idea, where I could start? For example yesterday, I found out, that the DHCP client jumped in when I sent a mail (sendmail got in action) ...
[12:27] <bekks> simonsimcity: ifconfig -a; disable network-manager, configure a static ip, test again.
[12:27] <Rory> simonsimcity: Is it only ping that isn't responding, or can you not access anything on the server at all (ssh, http etc)
[12:28] <simonsimcity> Rory: According to that, it is in the same subnet as all the others of my servers. I tried to ping it after ssh failed to connect.
[12:28] <Zorky> What file in the users home folder controls resolution for that user?
[12:28] <bekks> simonsimcity: So you issue is "I cannot connect to my server at all" and not "it isnt answering to ping".
[12:29] <bekks> simonsimcity: So start with the approach I told you :)
[12:29] <simonsimcity> bekks: network-manager is disabled in ubuntu-server, isn't it? I already configured a static ip-address, but it (seems random when ...) switches back to the dynamic address and back again.
[12:29] <bekks> simonsimcity: I am not using ubuntu server, I cant tell. Just doublecheck it. :)
[12:30] <bekks> simonsimcity: And where/how did you configure the static IP?
[12:30] <bekks> simonsimcity: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[12:30] <sventon> Rory:  are you still here ?  , did try to boot from both my USB ports without sucess
[12:30] <simonsimcity> bekks: edited /etc/network/interface and restarted the machine.
[12:31] <bekks> simonsimcity: What did you put in /etc/network/interface ? Can you pastebin it, unless it is a publicly reachable IP?
[12:31] <simonsimcity> bekks: network-manager is not running (I at least got "Unknown job")
[12:31] <bekks> simonsimcity: Then disable it, as described in the link.
[12:32] <Rory> sventon: You could perhaps try this program for Mac http://penguintosh.com/tag/linux-usb-creator/
[12:33] <Zorky> Does anyone know what file controls the resolution in the users home folder?
[12:34] <simonsimcity> bekks: according to apt-get, it isn't installed - got it confirmed now.
[12:34] <bekks> simonsimcity: Thats good so far. Then can you pastebin your network config, unless it is a publicly reachable server?
[12:36] <simonsimcity> bekks: Here's the pastebin I posted yesterday. It's the same now, just that eth0:1 is disabled: http://pastebin.com/PMsDKs87
[12:37] <simonsimcity> The public ip-address is not the one used - just changed it to something random ...
[12:37] <ianmac1> heh, just found the Super+w key combo. nice
[12:38] <bekks> simonsimcity: But you ensured that the address, netmask and gateway are correct?
[12:40] <impradeepy> pls tell me data recovery software
[12:40] <simonsimcity> bekks: That's what I have on another machine, that I can connect to. They're physically all in the same network.
[12:41] <bekks> impradeepy: Please tell us what happened before so we can tell you which software to use.
[12:41] <simonsimcity> ifconfig shows the same settings, so ... the configuration-file is loaded ...
[12:41] <impradeepy> i want to recover deleted files from an external hdd
[12:43] <simonsimcity> bekks: that's crazy ... I have a script here trying to ping this server. After I first tried to ping some other server from this broken one, the ping got through ...
[12:43] <bekks> simonsimcity: Do you have control over the switch where your servers are connected to?
[12:44] <ubuntu> how to download themes for ubuntu
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> !theme
[12:45] <simonsimcity> bekks: I have the contact of the one who does, but he affirmed that everything should be correct from his side ...
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: use your backups, you have backups right?
[12:46] <simonsimcity> Anyways. I'll try to work with it and will come back if the DHCP client takes over again - or something else rare happens ... :)
[12:46] <bekks> simonsimcity: Maybe he can take a look / monitor whats happening on the port(s) where the server in question is connected to?
[12:47] <bekks> simonsimcity: And you could uninstall the dhcp client too :)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> impradeepy: if not, why not?
[12:49] <jacobi> 有人没有？
[12:50] <DJones> !cn | jacobi
[12:50] <ianmac1> !cn
[12:50] <simonsimcity> bekks: If I remove isc-dhcp-client, it also want's to remove ubuntu-minimal (worry)
[12:51] <ianmac1> simonsimcity, ubuntu-minimal is just a meta package, it's safe to remove. just remember to reinstall it before you upgrade ubuntu
[12:51] <simonsimcity> q
[12:52] <simonsimcity> ianmac1: will try that ...
[12:59] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:00] <nuthatch> f11 on my keboard does not scroll nicklist it just makes weechat fullscreen?
[13:00] <konamiko> morning
[13:00] <nuthatch> morning
[13:01] <konamiko> so I have an odd issue I've never seen before
[13:01] <konamiko> I don't have the menu bar at the top of xchat
[13:01] <konamiko> how do I open the channel list again?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> konamiko, you changed the setting to hide it
[13:02] <konamiko> how do I change it back? I only just downloaded it on this PC
[13:02] <ianmac1> konamiko, the menus should be in the unity menubar at the top of the screen
[13:03] <konamiko> oh! Ubuntu does weird things to my userbars
[13:04] <konamiko> thank you
[13:15] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[13:22] <s_faraday> hi
[13:22] <s_faraday> I'm making a source package
[13:23] <s_faraday> and having this error
[13:23] <s_faraday> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[13:23] <s_faraday> how can I fix it?
[13:23] <loa> hello
[13:23] <cfhowlett> loa, greetings
[13:23] <loa> how i can add user to group using ubuntu?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !source
[13:23] <loa> using gui in ubuntu *
[13:23] <loa> i have 13.10
[13:23] <loa> i can do this on 10.04, but how in 13.10
[13:24] <cfhowlett> loa, system.users and groups>users>manage groups
[13:24] <StrangeNoises> wow, haha. radeon 7750 installed, and after getting the nvidia stuff out of the way and reverting stuff to defaults, it just works, multiscreen and all
[13:24] <sciuscia> ciao
[13:24] <sciuscia> !list
[13:24] <StrangeNoises> i was expecting a day-long struggle there, what with amd reputation
[13:25] <pc100_> HELO
[13:25] <loa> cfhowlett, can't understand where is that menu?
[13:25] <loa> cfhowlett, i opened system users, but can't found anything about groups
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> loa: why not use cli, bit easier.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> loa: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[13:27] <StrangeNoises> hm, no dropshadows around windows. took me a moment to notice. am i on llvmpipe here?
[13:27] <OerHeks> users/groups menu is not standard installed, sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools
[13:27] <ObrienDave> LOL is this the Italian warez channel? ;)
[13:27] <konamiko> yay, I figured out how to disable the global menu
[13:28] <StrangeNoises> entirely possible. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says this card only via llvmpipe but references a bug which claims to have had a fix released before saucy got out the door
[13:28] <StrangeNoises> question is, how do i tell definitively?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> loa, try user settings choose a user and then go to advanced settings
[13:30] <s_faraday> a complete output is here:
[13:30] <s_faraday> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6370455/
[13:31]  * photon hears StrangeNoises 
[13:32] <StrangeNoises> photon, oh good, was hoping someone would ;-)
[13:32] <StrangeNoises> aha, glxgears -info
[13:33] <photon> I'm sorry, couldn't resist ;)
[13:33]  * StrangeNoises sees what photon did there ;-P
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> hm, well, it's *not* saying it's using llvmpipe, but it is saying it's using mesa
[13:34] <onthestairs> Hello, I'm looking into buying a lenovo thinkpad s440. I notice that is certified hardware, but only when pre-installed by the manufacturer (http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201306-13872/). I am not receiving the option to buy with ubuntu pre-installed. Am I likely to run into any issues installing it myself?
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> everything actually seems happy tbh, i just noticed the lack of window ddropshadows etc
[13:34] <StrangeNoises> stuff like active blur behind the dash still works though
[13:36] <OerHeks> onthestairs, you'll be fine
[13:36] <onthestairs> OerHeks: brilliant thanks :)
[13:38] <loa> cfhowlett, i can't see where i can add user to group here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/system-sesstings.png
[13:39] <loa> where are "advanced settings"?
[13:40] <StrangeNoises> ah, transparent windows aren't, either
[13:41] <akis63> hi. anyone can help me with an issue at GNOME Activity Journal (formerly known as GNOME Zeitgeist)?
[13:42] <loa> cfhowlett, ah ok, i search "users and groups"
[13:42] <loa> and found it
[13:42] <cfhowlett> loa, :)
[13:43] <kskka> hello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i am trying to hibernate, it is saving successfully, when i try to resume, it just freezes, i read it in grub that it is reading from hibernation, how to solve that issue, i read somewhere on the internet and installed USWSUSP, earlier it was not working at all
[13:43] <kskka> i hae 2 gb of RAM and 4gb of swap
[13:44] <minimec> loa: 'sudo gedit /etc/group' syntax: To add 'minimec' to the gorup vboxusers 'vboxusers:x:125:minimec' in my case...
[13:44] <kskka> saved state size was of just 600 Mb, and during startup i shows that behind splash screen that it read contents from the disk
[13:44] <k1l_> minimec: that is so wrong. please dont advice to run GUI with sudo
[13:44] <kskka> successfully
[13:45] <loa> minimec, i need to give permissions to use printers, i even don't know how group is called...
[13:45] <s_faraday> guys..
[13:45] <k1l_> minimec: and to add users to a group that is way easier to use the command ActionParsnip gave some minutes ago. (when using the temrinal anyway)
[13:45] <loa> lpadmins or somethings.
[13:45] <kskka> help guys
[13:45] <s_faraday> can u help me?
[13:46] <kskka> s_faraday: what is your problem, just type it, if someone aware of it, they will answer
[13:46] <loa> i have ubuntu crash with no information in logs and i decide to do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/CrashdumpRecipe?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FCrashdumpRecipe
[13:47] <loa> but looks like installer don't add this "crashkernel=" into grub parameter to kernel
[13:47] <loa> how i can do this by hand in ubuntu way?
[13:47] <s_faraday> i know
[13:47] <s_faraday> kskka: i got this error
[13:48] <loa> this param "crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M"
[13:48] <s_faraday> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[13:48] <s_faraday> kskka: and this is full output:
[13:48] <s_faraday> ]http://paste.ubuntu.com/6370455/
[13:49] <s_faraday> how can i fix it? :/
[13:49] <MrQuist> crashkernel is a nice function
[13:49] <abradley> autofs problem: nfs share not mounting. auto.master: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367032/ . auto.nfs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6367033/ .  /mnt/nfs/proxmox exists locally already. when autofs starts /proxmox disappears
[13:49] <MrQuist> i use it all the time in windows
[13:49] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: looks like you have none of the dependencies for your package installed
[13:50] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: none of them?
[13:51] <Acony> my printscreen btn is not working 13.04 gnome
[13:52] <Acony> can somebody help me to fix that since I need it badly for real
[13:52] <minimec> loa: for cups configuration: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf The group in /etc/group would be 'lpadmin'.
[13:53] <kskka> guys , help me to sort out system freeze while resuming from hibernation,  i have 2 gb RAM and 4gb swap and it is saving system state successfully, now i installed uswsusp and but it freeze while resuming, how to sort out that
[13:54] <minimec> k1l_: I somehow accept the 'sudo' comment. It's an old habit. And 'usermod' is cool, if you know the name of the group... ;)
[13:54] <k1l_> loa: did you try that one? <ActionParsnip> loa: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[13:55] <k1l_> minimec: using sudo with GUI will break things. that is why there is gksu and gksudo
[13:56] <minimec> k1l_: I know it 'can' break things, but it never does on my machines... ;)
[13:56] <guest-MmKq7e> ers
[13:56] <guest-MmKq7e> 49ers
[13:57] <xyzwhatever> ok, for whatever reason ubuntu created for me (by default) a tiny home folder and the rest of the harddisk is under /media/username/hdname        now when i want to copy something with ssh on my computer i can only access the home folder not the /media stuff how can I solve this?? ;(
[13:58] <bittyx-work> Hi all. A quick question about symlinks - if I have a symlink /path/link that points to, say, /home/user, and i create a symlink /path/link/otherlink (that points to something else entirely), will the "otherlink" actually be created in /home/user ?
[13:58] <julian_> Hello all
[13:58] <julian_> can somebody explain environment variables to me?
[13:59] <julian_> I'm installing postgres, and all of the commands it's installed are unavailable. However, they work, but I need to specify the path to each command
[13:59] <julian_> Apparently, altering the .bash_profile of a user will fix this
[13:59] <julian_> can someone explain, why, and what's the syntax of the .bash_profile ?
[14:00] <bittyx-work> julian_: Google "bashrc vs bash_profile" - the first few links explain not only the differences, but what the files themselves are used for.
[14:01] <bittyx-work> julian_: But yes, you probably need to add the path to your commands in your PATH environment variable (PATH is a special environment variable, so search for that too).
[14:01] <julian_> bittyx-work: Okay, cool. I have a user, 'postgres'. Where would I find 'postgres' .bash_profile ?
[14:02] <xyzwhatever> this is suckkk :D
[14:02] <xyzwhatever> i mean :(
[14:02] <julian_> indeed.
[14:03] <xyzwhatever> why scp only works for home foler???
[14:04] <Myrtti> xyzwhatever: depends on which way you're doing it, but usually it could be about write permissions?
[14:04] <bittyx-work> julian_: Check this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868728
[14:04] <zhr0> whats lubuntu root password?
[14:04] <Myrtti> zhr0: there is none
[14:04] <zhr0> on live cd
[14:04] <StrangeNoises> hm, noisy fan in this card
[14:04] <StrangeNoises> used to graphics cards without fans (muttergrumble)
[14:04] <bittyx-work> julian_: It seems to be *exactly* your problem.
[14:05] <zhr0> got it just needs a sudo
[14:08] <Igor__> hello, can i get some help, i was updating my ubuntu 12.04, and after, i did restart, and then i removed old kernel via synaptic. now i cant boot into it any more...
[14:09] <nibbler_> Igor__: are you sure you have some recent kernel still on the system?
[14:09] <cfhowlett> Igor__, and that's why you always keep at least ONE old kernel in reserve ...
[14:09] <xyzwhatever> Myrtti i use     scp file adminusername@mycomputer:/media/stupidhisnothomefolder   and then it says permission denied :(
[14:09] <Igor__> yes i am sure, because, two kernels was checked in synaptic
[14:09] <Igor__> yes i learned a lesson now
[14:09] <Igor__> :/
[14:11] <Igor__> there was 4 things checked in synaptic two of them where about 3.5-041, a two of them where 3.5-042, and i checked only 3.5-041 for complete removeal
[14:12] <nibbler_> Igor__: its easy to fix anyway, just boot from usbstick/cd, chose to rescue system, chroot to the system and use apt-get / aptitude to reinstall the kernels needed
[14:12] <xyzwhatever> or how can I add another harddisk to my home folder? is that possible ?
[14:13] <Igor__> thank you going to try that right now
[14:13] <Igor__> :)
[14:13] <rollin> hi
[14:13] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: you can mount any drive/partition to any folder. copy over the files first and mount it (use /etc/fstab to make it permanent). if you employ lvm its even possible on the fly
[14:13] <xyzwhatever> when I do this??       ln -s /media/stupidHD  ~/newfolder         ?
[14:13] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: that might be sufficient
[14:14] <xyzwhatever> is it permanent?
[14:14] <xyzwhatever> ill check it out
[14:15] <_aziz_> #italy
[14:15] <nibbler_> xyzwhatever: thats permanent, yes. but maybe not optimal. i'd suggest putting all of /home on the other harddrive
[14:15] <RandomTghts> Hey I'm having problems staying connected with pci wireless can anyone help
[14:15] <cfhowlett> _aziz_, !it|
[14:15] <azizLIGHTS> ?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !it
[14:16] <_aziz_> LOL
[14:16] <_aziz_> thanks
[14:17] <RandomTghts> Hey I'm having problems staying connected with pci wireless can anyone help
[14:17] <_aziz_> bye
[14:19] <minimec> RandomTghts: wireless 'g' or 'n' connection? If you have unstable wifi connections, I would 1. limit connections to 'g' on the router or computer , 2. choose 5ghz band if possible, 3. test different channels on the 2.4 band.
[14:19] <chi_>  ого
[14:20] <RandomTghts> anyone know how to fix wireless from dropping please pm me thanks
[14:20] <chi_> Сколько народу
[14:20] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: you want some -dev packages there
[14:20] <gordonjcp> !pm | RandomTghts
[14:20] <cfhowlett> !ru|chi_,
[14:20] <RandomTghts> oh ok thanks
[14:20] <chi_> А ЗА МАТ ТУТ БЛЯТЬ НЕ БАНЯТ?
[14:20] <chi_> оу
[14:20] <chi_> круто:)
[14:20] <FloodBot1> chi_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <cfhowlett> !pl
[14:21] <Rory> 3I don't think that's Polish cfhowlett
[14:21]  * LjL stares at everyone
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Rory, it was a W.A.G.
[14:21] <tibor> hey guys, does anyone know what's the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ?
[14:21] <Rory> man w.a.g
[14:21] <RandomTghts> wireless g and I have two different routers that i have tried both with the same results
[14:21] <RandomTghts> also tried different channels as well
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Rory, wild arsed guess
[14:22] <Rory> !ru | maybe it's russian chi_
[14:22]  * LjL keeps staring - wooohooo, the !ru was already sent!
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Rory, that was my first guess ...
[14:22] <tibor> anybody knows the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ?
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ggggggl
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ñ
[14:24] <tibor> ?
[14:24] <GUSALJR> ola
[14:25] <Pici> !es | GUSALJR
[14:25] <minimec> RandomTghts: So you think the linux wifi driver is not reliable. Ok. If it is a pci card, you can verify the card with 'lspci' (lsusb for usb dongle). Check the device you have and search the internet with something like "YOURCARD driver ubuntu". Maybe there are some options for your device.
[14:26] <tibor> i guess nobody knows the difference between apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng ...
[14:26] <RandomTghts> ok thanks
[14:27] <realma10094> hello
[14:27] <cfhowlett> realma10094, greetings
[14:28] <realma10094> hello,everyone~~is someone has met two essid problems before?
[14:28] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I don't know which packeages I need
[14:28] <minimec> tibor: 'ng' normally stands for 'next generation' Often those packages become 'transitional dummy' packages after a while. Example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=scribus-ng&searchon=names
[14:29] <realma10094> I use: iwlist wlan0 scanning
[14:29] <realma10094> but there are two essid in one cell
[14:30] <realma10094>  two ESSID's (or maybe I should say an extra ESSID) being broadcast by the router for the same MAC
[14:30] <realma10094> anyone knows?
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> how can i extract a tar in a certiain folder a.k.a specify the path where to extract?
[14:31] <tibor> thanks minimec
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install unp and use that, unp extracts to pwd :)
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> :o
[14:32] <chi_> hello.
[14:34] <marcos> cmd
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: eg, if the file is /$HOME/Downloads/filename.tar.gz   and you want the extracted data on your desktop, use:   cd $HOME/Desktop; unp /$HOME/Downloads/filename.tar.gz
[14:34] <articulas> I really really love Ubuntu. So im not giving up. My wifi picks up networks but never connects. Do I need to configure something?
[14:35] <marcos> boa tarde estou tendo dificuldade em fazer funcionar meu modem olicard no ubuntu apesar de ler vários docs a ignorancia  me impede o progresso alguém pode me ajudar ?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: unp makes life easy
[14:35] <realma10094> iwlist shows multiple SSIDs in a single CELL
[14:36] <realma10094> anyone can help me?
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> and tar command does not have this by default ActionParsnip ? :o
[14:36] <craigbass1976> I'm about to become a caregiver for an adult with developmental disabilities (mentally retarded has historically been the diagnosis) because I didn't punish myself doing treatment level foster care a few years ago...  I can either communicate with the rest of the team with a fax (bleah) or encrypted emails.  Is that something I can do at a client level, or the server?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: install unp, then use it
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> ;)))
[14:37] <llucasbrasill> bom dia!
[14:38] <ashu11> Hi , i need to run one of my custom service at startup without any user been logged in
[14:38] <ashu11> where should i add an entry for this.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: you can add scripts in /etc/rc.local  above the 'exit 0' line and it will run just before the login request, you will need to background it with an ampersand and it will run as root unless you use 'su'
[14:39] <craigbass1976> ashu11, Used to be the /etc/rcx.d directories, but I haven't had to maintain a regular server since before 10.04...
[14:39] <ashu11> thanks ActionParsnip
[14:40] <ashu11> thanks craigbass1976
[14:40] <ashu11> i dont have to login to any user at all
[14:40] <craigbass1976> ashu11, whoah ho, I guess it still is that way...
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: it will run before anyone logs in, as root
[14:40] <ashu11> i just want that even if i do not login, my system has that service up
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: again, backgroud it if the command runs a long time (or forever) as it will hang the boot
[14:41] <ashu11> thanks craigbass1976 ,
[14:42] <ashu11> ActionParsnip, , would it run when i try login  ?? just before login .....
[14:42] <ashu11> is it what you mean
[14:43] <ashu11> or it will run anyway as root
[14:43] <ashu11> whether i login or not.
[14:43] <ashu11> i guess u meant it will run as root , whether or not anyone logs in
[14:43] <ashu11> i just have to remember to make it as background
[14:43] <ashu11> right ??
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: before any login prompt (lightdm, or server prompt for login) it will run, as root
[14:44] <realma10094> anyone uses wicd to configure wireless card?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> ashu11: if nobody logs in, it will still run
[14:44] <ashu11> okay , thanks, it would work for me :) thanks
[14:45] <allaire> No matter if my LANG is set in /etc/default/locale (LANG=en_US.UTF-8), `locale` always returns nothing, any ideas?
[14:46] <s_faraday> how can I found the complete name of a package that have a specific file
[14:46] <s_faraday> like lXt
[14:46] <s_faraday> cause the package name is not the same
[14:51] <nibbler_> s_faraday: apt-file search /usr/bin/gedit
[14:54] <KeyboardNotFound> Emergency! I need to encrypt all my files and protect from copying, can i do? I have installed ubuntu 13.10
[14:55] <ObrienDave> turn off Wi-Fi, unplug Ethernet, wear a foil hat :)
[14:56] <Rory> KeyboardNotFound: The best way is to back up your data and reinstall, selecting the LVM With Encryption option during the installation
[14:57] <KeyboardNotFound> is there other way to encrypt files without reinstalling ?
[14:58] <xyzwhatever> why does it take ages to delete a bunch of files (shift+del) in ubuntu?
[15:00] <_joey> how do I toggle between desktop workspaces?
[15:00] <_joey> thanks
[15:01] <xyzwhatever> np
[15:02] <minimec> _joey: That depends on the windows manager. Normally <ctrl><alt>arrow left/right (<super> left/right in Elementary).
[15:03] <princef> hi, how can i add the rhytmbox (or other) to sound indicator in xfce? with libindicator?
[15:03] <sventon> Rory: still here ?  I downloaded the "Linux USB Builder" as you suggested and have now a bootable USB stick.  THANKS!
[15:03] <Rory> !yay | sventon
[15:03] <sventon> Unfortunately then I try to start the OS I got a flickering screen.  Have now checked the md5 sums on the ubuntu.iso and USB  ( /Volumes/LINUXDISK1 )  and they do not match.   Should they do that  ?  or do the "usb builder"  make some changes ?
[15:03] <Rory> oh
[15:04] <Rory> sventon: When you first boot from the iso, there's a purple screen with a keyboard icon at the bottom. Press any key to access a menu. One of the options will check the integrity of the USB drive. This is the best way to check
[15:04] <Rory> sventon: Although it's flickering, can you see enough to install Ubuntu?
[15:05] <sventon> no I can't see anything
[15:06] <Rory> OK so check the integrity using the method I described above
[15:06] <madalin> hello
[15:07] <madalin> i'm trying to port forward from public ip to local, but BLOCK a specific ip..anyone ?
[15:07] <sventon> Rory: sorry, do you mean that I will be able to access a menu even if i can't see anything ?
[15:09] <nibbler_> madalin: thats easy, first -A INPUT -s ip.to.block.here -j DROP, then something containging DNAT
[15:09] <_aziz_>  /j #ubuntu-ita
[15:09] <Rory> sventon: Do you get as far as a purple screen?
[15:10] <MindSpark> does anyone know of an open source web publishing tool? Something that keeps mirrors a staging version into a live version and denies access to changes to the live system?
[15:10] <nibbler_> _andyj_: its #ubuntu-it - and without space or anything before the /
[15:10] <sventon> unfortunately not
[15:10] <Rory> sventon: Do you have another USB drive you can try? Or a blank DVD?
[15:14] <sventon> I have been able to boot this ubuntu iso image using virtualbox,  so I think the image are fine. Do you know if the md5 sum on the image and usb should match ?
[15:14] <Rory> I don't know
[15:14] <Rory> I don't know how the process of copying to the flash drive works
[15:16] <julian> where are users located?
[15:16] <sventon> Rory: thank you for taking me this far : )   do you know if/how  I can log in using a shell ?
[15:17] <Rory> Guest42365: User's home directories are located in the /home directory
[15:17] <Guest42365> Rory: I navigate to filesystem > home
[15:17] <sventon> MindSpark: maybe you can use github to push to github-pages or your own server ?
[15:17] <Guest42365> but there's only my root directory there
[15:17] <Guest42365> Rory: And yet if I run ' su - postgres ' I change to the postgres user
[15:17] <Rory> Guest42365: If you are the only user, that is to be expected
[15:18] <Rory> Guest42365: The postgres user doesn't have a home directory
[15:18] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: do you know what the name of the package is?  Something like "apt-get build-dep <name>" will pull in the build dependencies
[15:18] <Rory> Guest42365: Run the command "cat /etc/passwd" to see all users
[15:18] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: hence "build-dep"
[15:18] <MindSpark> sventon: that would be for versioning I guess… I need a publishing tool. A system that copies files from staging into live. So one can have a testing environment, and the live environment would be an identical copy on a different server
[15:19] <Guest42365> Rory: OKay, thanks. I created postgres using the useradd command. Does the postgres user have a bash file and all the rest of it?
[15:19] <Guest42365> Rory: How do I create a user properly?
[15:19] <Colt7w> boa tarde!
[15:20] <Rory> Guest42365: the "adduser" command
[15:20] <NotreDev> i want to discover what interfaces my ubuntu host has, how do i do that? ifconfig doesn't seem to show down interfaces
[15:20] <sventon> MindSpark: I have not done this but you can push directly from github to your server. why do you need a publishing tool ?
[15:20] <Guest42365> Rory: I think 'useradd' was a type...I think I did create the postgres user using the "adduser" command. Where is postgres' home directory?
[15:20] <Guest42365> *was a typo
[15:21] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I fix it
[15:21] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: here was the answer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-*-4175419164/
[15:21] <Pici> Guest42365: keep in mind that both 'adduser' and 'useradd' are both valid commands.
[15:21] <Rory> Guest42365: Home directories are defined in /etc/passwd if you find the line for the postgres user you can see
[15:21] <loa> hello, how i can see if kernel panic, if i was in gnome?
[15:21] <MindSpark> sventon: how do you go about pushing from github?
[15:21] <Guest42365> Pici: Rory: Okay, thanks both, I'll have a look
[15:21] <sventon> MindSpark: have you tried out Docker.io ?
[15:21] <Rory> Guest42365: For example, my user's line is "rory:x:1000:1000:Rory Holland,,,:/home/rory:/bin/bash" which shows my home directory is /home/rory
[15:21] <loa> for example i execute this command echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger
[15:22] <loa> my system freez/
[15:22] <loa> what i can do next?
[15:22] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: tnx :)
[15:22] <loa> how i can see kernel panic message?
[15:22] <Rory> loa: sudo dmesg
[15:22] <MindSpark> sventon: no, I'll have a look at it
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Rory: why sudo for dmesg?
[15:23] <loa> Rory, hm? dmesg just record current kernel log
[15:23] <Rory> ActionParsnip: When I try it without on my system I get: dmesg: klogctl failed: Operation not permitted
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Rory: sounds broken, users can run dmesg
[15:24] <Guest42365> Rory: Um.I don't have a passwd directory? :P I have an etc directory, but no passwd directory inside that
[15:24] <loa> so again, how i can see terminal if i had kernel panic?
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: The command "cat /etc/passwd"
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: passwd is a text file
[15:24] <Guest42365> cool :L
[15:24] <loa> now my system just freez.
[15:24] <Guest42365> what does cat do? Is it like nano?
[15:24] <Rory> Guest42365: it just prints that file to the console
[15:24] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: it conCATenates files
[15:24] <Guest42365> ah I see
[15:25] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: you can type cat thing1.txt thing2.txt thing3.txt > allthings.txt
[15:25] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: and get all three files run end-to-end
[15:25] <denis_> l
[15:25] <Guest42365> gordonjcp: it creates an allthings.txt file?
[15:25] <goldstar> I cant copy values from keepass to terminal, suggestions ?
[15:26] <Ubuntucharge> Plop
[15:26] <Rory> Guest42365: Yes that is what the > character does - it redirects the output of the command(s) on the left, to the file on the right
[15:26] <sventon> MindSpark: sorry for dragging in docker in this,, docker let you build self contained images that you can upload. In other words you will have exactly the same environment on your local machine developing as on the server. Docker is still beta but a very interesting project. Using github you can push your repos and live update for example your website but it don't give you the same environment locally and on the server. Two diff
[15:26] <sventon> rent tools and sorry if I confused you with my earlier answer
[15:26] <Ubuntucharge> Some french here?
[15:27] <Rory> !fr | Ubuntucharge
[15:27] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: the "> allthings.txt" does
[15:27] <gordonjcp> Guest42365: ">" in this sense means "redirect to this file"
[15:27] <Pici> !bash
[15:27] <dmavroid> Hello!! i just bought a graphics card (GeForce 210) and i dont know which driver should i choose from my additionla drivers option, in order to make use of my graphics card. can someone help me plz
[15:27] <MindSpark> sventon: this sounds interesting, does it make an image of the entire running system?
[15:27] <Rory> Guest42365: Note that > will overwrite the contents of the file if it already exists. If you wanted to append to the end of an existing file you would use >>
[15:28] <Rory> dmavroid: the "nvidia-current" one is usually best
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> dmavroid: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    will install it for you
[15:28] <dmavroid> Rory: therefore i am using the appropriate one without changing anything?
[15:28] <Guest42365> gordonjcp: Okay cool. I'll probably forget it when it comes to use cat again x) But thanks
[15:29] <dmavroid> ActionParsnip: this ommand will select the best one?
[15:29] <sventon> MindSpark: it use linux containers, I don't exactly know the technology but as I understand it will sandbox everything.
[15:29] <Guest42365> Rory: PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> dmavroid: it will install the driver for you, it will also update along with your other packages
[15:29] <Guest42365> so the postgre's home folder in var/lib/postgresql ?
[15:30] <Guest42365> isn't that a weird place :L ?
[15:30] <dmavroid> ActionParsnip: fantastic. Somoething else now. how can i test that i am getting the most out of my graphics card?
[15:30] <nopcall> how can i disable the launcher ? I really hate it
[15:31] <nopcall> ubuntu 13.10
[15:32] <dmavroid> Someone plz... How can i test if i am getting the most out of my graphics card? is there any way?
[15:33] <Guest42365> Rory: I'm looking for the bashrc file..inside postgres there is this: 9.1 > main . I cd into main it says permission denied. I sudo cd into main and it says the command cd isn't found!
[15:35] <bekks> Guest42365: Whats the actual issue you want to solve by using your postgres user?
[15:37] <Guest42365> bekks: The command 'create role' is unavailable to the postgres user
[15:38] <Guest42365> bekks: I want to find postgres ' bashrc file, and change the environment file so that the command is available to it.
[15:38] <xyzwhatever> does scp ignore already existing files by default?? im copying a huge folder and want to restart in between
[15:38] <Hodapp> by default, no
[15:39] <Hodapp> why not use rsync?
[15:40] <esde> in http://pastebin.com/B2fuRXTP is the variable NOW represented as =$(..) because the system is supposed to evaluate everything after $ as if it were entered into a shell and then the output is the value for the variable? and FILE=".." is written like that because it's simply setting a text value?
[15:40] <bekks> xyzwhatever: scp doesnt ignore files by default.
[15:40] <bekks> xyzwhatever: Use rsync for your purposes, which uses sftp by default.
[15:40] <Guest42365> rory: What's going on? PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[15:41] <xyzwhatever> is rsync syntax the same?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> xyzwhatever: you could use grsync as a GUI, it shows the rsyc command in the footer :)
[15:41] <Guest42365> rory: /var/lib/postgresql doesn't contain any bashrc, and bin/bash can't seem to be read by nano. All goobeldgook
[15:43] <Marlenee> i cant use cluster shell from command line it require GUi x11 or something like that can some one help me to use it
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: cssh is awesome
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: run:   cssh server1 server2 server3    and you will get the connections, what you type in the little box goes to all servers
[15:45] <Marlenee> ActionParsnip ; can I PM You
[15:47] <dmavroid> Hello again! i just typed the following command in a terminal (sudo apt-get install nvidia current) in order to install the appropriate driver for my graphics card. I have noticed that there is a problem because i have the bubling windows effect and after the installation it seems like there is a lag. I suppose something is not working well
[15:50]  * joossee waves to #ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Marlenee: its that simple but sure if you want
[15:50] <dmavroid> Someone plzzzzzzzzzzzz
[15:51] <deper29> dmavroid: okay, first off you need a bit of patience. Second, did you type 'nvidia current' or 'nvidia-current'?
[15:51] <joossee> hey ActionParsnip , file away in your memory banks: iw reg set US very important for many wNIC's to work in 5ghz mode
[15:51] <dmavroid> deper29: Sorry. 'nvidia-current'
[15:52] <Guest42365> COULD SOMEONE ANSWER THIS PLEASE? http://askubuntu.com/questions/372085/locate-a-users-bashrc-file
[15:52] <gordonjcp> !caps | Guest42365
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> joossee: I haveno idea what that means
[15:54] <joossee> ActionParsnip, many wireless nics, like TPLINK WDN4800, will be set to world while a ubuntu install will be set to US. For some reason the 5ghz mode will not be enabled by default. "iw set reg US" will fix this problem
[15:54] <deper29> dmavroid: what kind of video card do you have?
[15:54] <rypervenche> Guest42365: That's for the PostgreSQL user. When you installed the package it created the user for you.
[15:54] <dmavroid> deper29: geforce 210
[15:54] <joossee> ActionParsnip, i figure this is gonnacome up quite a bit as/if people transition to 5ghz
[15:54] <dmavroid> deper29: gigabyte geforce 210
[15:55] <deper29> dmavroid: gksudo nvidia-settings
[15:55] <joossee> ActionParsnip, the other fix is recompiling the drivers, in my case ath9k
[15:55] <joossee> which is much much harder :)
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> joossee: i see, weird
[15:55] <deper29> look in there and see if you can change the performance settings of your card.
[15:55] <joossee> ActionParsnip, yes we spent quite a bit of time on this yesterday. many helped but that is for sure a fix
[15:56] <rypervenche> Guest42365: You shouldn't need to change environment variables for the user, but you could add a .bashrc file yourself to its home directory I suppose.
[15:56] <dmavroid> deper29: what should i do with that?
[15:56] <willmore> Hello, all.  I'm tuning a 13.10 install which uses an nVidia GPU to drive a TV.  The TV overscans and I've managed to correct that with a metamode setting in my xorg.conf fine.  The login screen (gdm?) looks perfect, but once I start my xfce session, the display reverts to the old (no metamode) setting.
[15:56] <rypervenche> Guest42365: "psql -U postgres" should work fine though.
[15:56] <willmore> Is something in the window manager startup running an xrandr command that undoes my metamode setting?
[15:57] <willmore> xrandr says that the current mode was set by xrandr, so that makes me suspicious.
[15:57] <deper29> dmavroid: I can't remember where in there, but there are performance settings. just set it to high performance and see what happens
[15:58] <dmavroid> deper29: is it propable to be the OpenGL settings?
[15:58] <deper29> dmavroid: hold on, I'll get up and go look on my desktop
[15:59] <dmavroid> deper29: thank you for that
[16:00] <deper29> dmavroid: powermizer
[16:02] <dmavroid> deper29: unfortunately i am still getting the lag!
[16:03] <deper29> dmavroid: I'm not sure then. That seemed to do it for me. I just changed powermizer settnigs from adaptive to maximum performance.
[16:04] <mehdi> Is there a way for me to envoke upstart to increase it's logging levels on a running system?
[16:04] <dmavroid> deper29: thank you again. should i choose another drivers?
[16:04] <hardy1> !weather KRAT
[16:04] <dmavroid> deper29: from additional drivers?
[16:05] <zexcriz> experiencing mir and it's good now probs till now :D
[16:05] <deper29> dmavroid: hmm, if you're running nvidia-current that should be good
[16:05] <hardy1> !weather krasnoyarsk
[16:05] <dcope> will monit actually restart a process if it has crashed
[16:05] <dcope> ?
[16:05] <zexcriz> anyone noticed performance difference in 13.10 ?
[16:06] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | zexcriz
[16:06] <zykotick9> zexcriz: 13.10 doesn't use mir... just sayin'
[16:06] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, ok
[16:07] <wilee-nilee> zexcriz, For what it's worth this is support not chat, that is a chat prompt that could go on forever. ;)
[16:07] <zexcriz> zykotick9, really ? i thought MIR has been introduced in ubuntu 13.10..!! thanks for that info.
[16:07] <zykotick9> zexcriz: it was suppose to be, delayed though
[16:08] <tux2> xmir Was supposed to be there but no..
[16:08] <zexcriz> wilee-nilee, :)
[16:08] <tux2> o think they'll just do mir instead of xmir now
[16:09] <dmavroid> deper29: what should be the normal temperature for the Graphic card? i get a constant 43. is that normal?
[16:09] <bekks> dmavroid: Depends on you hardware, the cooler, and the fans used.
[16:09] <joossee> anything under 95 is good
[16:09] <wilee-nilee> dmavroid,  That is not a bad temp.
[16:10] <dmavroid> deper29: active fan on the module of the graphic card. astandard cpu coller and an  additional case fan!
[16:10] <dmavroid> deper29: active fan on the module of the graphic card. astandard cpu coller and an  additional case fan!
[16:10] <dmavroid> sorry
[16:11] <dmavroid> wilee-nilee: i had to ask because temp. is an indicator that something is not working properly! but it is good to know
[16:11] <bekks> dmavroid: So why are you concerned? If you have high temperatures, most likely you fans need to be cleaned. Nothing an OS can do about.
[16:12] <s_faraday> hi , I need the Boost C++ libraries, but this command got some errors :
[16:13] <s_faraday> sudo apt-get install libboost-*
[16:13] <ztane> yay help, after upgrading to 1310 my ubuntu-unity is now stuck to vietnamese TELEX ime and I donot have any clue as to how unconfigure it anymore
[16:13] <deper29> dmavroid: 43 should be fine.
[16:13] <s_faraday> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[16:13] <s_faraday> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[16:13] <s_faraday> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[16:13] <s_faraday> or been moved out of Incoming.
[16:13] <FloodBot1> s_faraday: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <ztane> used to be ibus-setup but it does not work...
[16:13] <ztane> I have no tray icon, nothing
[16:13] <jayar> why is it my windows computer can go into a ubuntu share on another computer and change files, but this ubuntu laptop can't?
[16:14] <NotreDev> i used `lshw -class network` to check for an interface that's present (eth1). however, ifconfig doesn't list it, and `sudo ifup eth1` returns "Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1." how do i get this up?
[16:14] <s_faraday> why i see this??
[16:14] <s_faraday> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371278/
[16:14] <ztane> I have run_im ibus but i cant configure it in any way
[16:14] <bekks> NotreDev: ifconfig -a will show you all valid interfaces.
[16:14] <ztane> unity SUCKS
[16:14] <NotreDev> bekks: what makes an interface in/valid?
[16:15] <bekks> NotreDev: Being detected and being assigned an interface name makes it valid.
[16:15] <bekks> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ... instead of sudo apt-get install package*
[16:15] <wilee-nilee> ztane, making mindless declarations knocks out a percentile of any help.
[16:15] <ztane> ok now I noticed that i can change between chinese and vietnamese ime with shift - super - space
[16:16] <ztane> wilee-nilee: hardly mindless
[16:17] <ztane> wilee-nilee: then explain to me why the unity update after another is harder to configure
[16:17] <s_faraday> bekks: tnx
[16:17] <bekks> ztane: "harder to configure"? In which manner?
[16:17] <ztane> bekks: i have bên linux user for 15 years
[16:17] <bekks> ztane: That doesnt explain what you are talking about :)
[16:18] <ztane> and now I have not any clue as to what IME i am using anymore
[16:18] <NotreDev> bekks: it seems to have a name. what am i missing? http://pastebin.com/LHNkTKn5
[16:18] <ztane> I have no tray icon from ibus even though it seems to be on
[16:18] <bekks> ztane: Whats "IME"?
[16:18] <ztane> Input Method Êditor
[16:18] <bekks> NotreDev: thats not the output of "ifconfig -a".
[16:18] <ztane> see
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: it's because you're trying to download conflicting packages. there are multiple versions of libboost in the repos, each conflict with each other. you need to choose 1 of them and install the dev packages for that. sudo apt-get install libboost1.54-dev
[16:19] <NotreDev> bekks: you are correct
[16:19] <ztane> why there is no icon from ibus
[16:19] <bekks> ztane: As far as I remember, I never configured an IME at all. Maybe it wasnt just clear to me that the thing I was configuring was an input method :)
[16:20] <NotreDev> bekks: so ifconfig -a shows the interface.
[16:20] <ztane> bekks: that is bc you do not write vietnames eand chinese
[16:20] <bekks> ztane: that may apply, yes.
[16:20] <bekks> NotreDev: Pastebin the output of ifconfig -a please.
[16:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO:  yes it says about confilicts
[16:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.54-dev'
[16:21] <bekks> s_faraday: apt-cache search libboost will show you alle valid packages.
[16:21] <ztane> ok I managed to install Finnish as ibus ime, so I can actually type with finnish keyboar
[16:21] <ztane> however
[16:21] <ztane> there is still no tray icon from Ibus
[16:22] <rantic> I have a bit of a dumb question as a newbie. I am learning about file permissions and usage of the ls command but had a question. I don't understand the group permissions for a file? If I create a file as the user kevin, how are group permissions automatically assigned to this file as well? As far as I understand, I'm part of a ton of groups?
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: 1.54 is whats on 13.10.    libboost-dev is the default (prob latest version)
[16:22] <NotreDev> http://pastebin.com/hJdrtQXP
[16:22] <ztane> even though [×] show icon on system tray
[16:22] <NotreDev> bekks: sorry, didn't tag you on that link -
[16:23] <bekks> NotreDev: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[16:23] <Guest20539> PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[16:23] <ztane> time to file a bug i guess
[16:23] <Guest20539> in order to create a .bashrc file for the postgres, I create it in /var/lib/postgresql ?
[16:23] <Guest20539> is the right or wrong?
[16:23] <NotreDev> bekks: dude, totally worked. guess i read the man pages wrong
[16:23] <Guest20539> PostgreSQL administrator,,,:/var/lib/postgresql:/bin/bash
[16:24] <Guest20539> < that's from the etc/passwd file
[16:24] <ztane> Guest20539: yes...
[16:24] <Guest20539> ztane. right, cool
[16:24] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: my distro is 13.04
[16:24] <ztane> Guest20539: though just sudo su -Hu postgres; cd and you are in the home directory
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[16:25] <Guest20539> ztane. awesome! thanks for that tip
[16:25] <Guest20539> ztane: Actually no, invalid option H apparently :/
[16:26] <sam113101> how can I change the primary monitor in lightdm?
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: xorg.conf
[16:26] <sam113101> hitsujiTMO: I thought this config file was dead
[16:26] <ztane> Guest20539: sorry mistype just sudo su postgres
[16:26] <ztane> Guest20539: then cd
[16:28] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: done that,
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: not dead, just not always needed
[16:28] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: trying to configure a source package, got this error : configure: error: Could not link against boost_system !
[16:28] <jonat625> help: I updated chromium a few minutes ago and now i only see white pages
[16:29] <enlighter> hi all
[16:29] <enlighter> its enlighter
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> !yay | enlighter
[16:31] <NotreDev> bekks: so now the output of ifconfig is this http://pastebin.com/1QvcFvtX
[16:31] <NotreDev> i still don't have an address right?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: whats the exact error?
[16:31] <bekks> NotreDev: Correct. You need to configure it.
[16:34] <jonat625> what did i do wrong?
[16:34] <wilee-nilee> jonat625, This using the stable ppa?
[16:35] <frog_> wilee-nilee: i changed my nick. i think. but i could look if you tell me how to
[16:36] <Hansford> I am having problems here...new to ubuntu and with my cd roms . At startup they light up but once log in I cant get them to open ..can someone help me
[16:36] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: have a look at this: http://notes.benv.junerules.com/blast-its-boost-slackware64-and-deluge-libtorrent-rasterbar/
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> frog_, Look up chromium ppa and read the instructions, ppa's are not really supported here is all.
[16:37] <zykotick9> Hansford: what happens if you run "eject" from a terminal?
[16:38] <kriskropd> I set up a ubuntu 13.10 minimal vm on a macintosh 10.8 host and am having trouble with the audio. The vm sees AC'97 audio controller provided by virtual box, but deemed it as multimedia UNCLAIMED - pavucontrol just sends to "dummy output" - does nayone have any experience or pointers that might help with this?
[16:38] <wilee-nilee> frog_, If I was going to use that browser I would just use the chrome version from google.
[16:38] <ztane> http://www.localizingjapan.com/blog/2013/10/20/japanese-input-on-ubuntu-linux-13-10-saucy-salamander/
[16:38] <ztane> how do i get that language icon in my tray ...
[16:39] <zykotick9> Hansford: in channel, or not at all.  your choice.
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: its there by default on 13.10
[16:40] <zykotick9> Hansford: so, not at all then.  best of luck.
[16:41] <Hansford> eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: try: alsactl init
[16:42] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: not for me after upgrade
[16:43] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: maybe i need to remove my xinputrc
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: try restarting , didn't show up for me on first boot
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> frog_, before you add any ppa make sure its version is any different than what you have from the ubuntu repos.
[16:44] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: 'alsactl: init:1758 No Soundcards found'
[16:44] <Hansford> zykotick9 this is the message : eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: i believe the applet is: indicator-keyboard
[16:46] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: ok appeared after relogin thanks
[16:46] <ztane> but now facing another problem again - there was an option to
[16:47] <ztane> ah 2 problems
[16:47] <ztane> I added Finnish there but it is now using US layout for it too
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: what's output of:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[16:47] <ztane> hmmhhm
[16:48] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: "No such file or directory" :/
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lspci
[16:48] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: it seems like I still have 2 layers of input - I have 5 IME in the dropdown menu, but when i change using alt+super+space as configured in there, i see only 3... and yet then they are not consistent
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: might not have loaded propperly, try another reboot
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> relog*
[16:50] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: I couldent underestand what he said! http://notes.benv.junerules.com/blast-its-boost-slackware64-and-deluge-libtorrent-rasterbar/
[16:50] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: it shows up in lspci as '00:05:0 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev01)'
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: what command are you running to get that error?
[16:52] <HelloWorld321> I've been given a bunch of data files that don't have a linefeed at the end, but the library that reads them needs the linefeed.  How can I append a linefeed to "file*.dat" ?
[16:53] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: ~/Desktop/robomoon/rcssbase-12.1.3$ ./configure
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you run alsamixer   and see if it allows you to configure the audio
[16:53] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: nope
[16:54] <kriskropd> i tried alsamixer as user and sudo and both times received "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory"
[16:54] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: i have 5 imes in the dropdown menu, it shows FI always; when i switch by super+shift+space as configured in the settings - i can choose between 3 of these, but the icon always shows FI despite what IME is in use...
[16:54] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: is alsa-utils installed?
[16:54] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: as if there are 2 layers of IBUS at the same time
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> ztane: that's a little bizarre
[16:55] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: yes, alsa-utils has been installed already
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you post the config.log
[16:55] <NotreDev> this is my host-only network interface for vmware: http://pastebin.com/9bY3GgDq / i'm trying to configure my ubuntu instance's /etc/network/interfaces for eth1 to have a static ip address, and stuck here http://pastebin.com/3A6Z6K8g
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you post you dmseg
[16:56] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/fJNc
[16:57] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371490/
[16:58] <Igor__> after update, i cleaned my old kernels via synaptic, and after that i couldnt boot. then earlier today i wrote here, and i got advice to boot from live usb, chroot into my system, and then instal kernel. i did that, but with no success...i still cant boot
[17:00] <daftykins> Igor__: have you tried holding down shift on startup to select kernel?
[17:01] <Igor__> i can select kernel, and i have 3 kernels to choose (dont know how, because i deleted them via synaptic) but neither is working
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: what happens when you try to boot?
[17:01] <Igor__> just hangs on splash screen
[17:02] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: try ./configure --with-boost-libdir=/usr/lib64
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: what video chip do you use?>
[17:02] <Igor__> AMD Radeon 7750
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: do you use the poprietary video driver?
[17:03] <Igor__> before i updated my ubuntu i removed all video drivers, and after reboot, i updated system, and after that i deleted old kernels (while there was no video driver at all)
[17:03] <Igor__> i was using proprietary drivers
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Igor__: try the boot option:   radeon.blacklist=1
[17:04] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: got new errors :/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371527/
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: I don't recommend you use the fglrx anyway... terrible 2d acceleration :/
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> unless you're a gamer... don't use it
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> but even then you could game on the open source radeon driver
[17:04] <moorehead> I have made a modification to my local /etc/hosts file when I try to do host that.domain.com it shows me the External IP and not the one I configured in the /etc/hosts file.
[17:04] <moorehead> Is that intended behavior? is there a way to fix it
[17:04] <Igor__> hm i dont game on linux anyway...so you suggest open source driver?
[17:04] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: indeed
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: what ubuntu version are you on?
[17:05] <Igor__> 12.04
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: and is this a laptop?
[17:05] <Igor__> no desktop
[17:05] <Igor__> amd based desktop, phenom II X4 965...so on...
[17:05] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: alright, well start using the open source radeon driver, and if you realize that your desktop's fan is loud let me know...
[17:07] <Cepi> Hi all
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, When you removed those partitions did you run a sudo update-grub after?
[17:07] <Cepi> i have problem with skype
[17:07] <Cepi> i install him but wont start
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, Er kernels sorry
[17:07] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: the way I uninstalled fglrx (installed with apt-get) was sudo aptitude purge fglrx*
[17:07] <Igor__> no i did not
[17:07] <Igor__> #Ari_Yang yes something like that
[17:07] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, If you don;t they still will show in the grub menu.
[17:08] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee but new one was added
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: what's the output of  dpkg -l | grep linux-image ?
[17:08] <Igor__> just a moment
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, In an update, you k now whats in the grub menu so I was just checking.
[17:08] <Ari-Yang> it will list what kernels you have installed
[17:09] <Igor__> i know, used that already but cant remember exatly
[17:09] <Igor__> there are 3 or 4 different kernels
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: sorry try ./configure --with-boost-libdir=/usr/lib
[17:09] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: so what's your problem?
[17:09] <Igor__> just a sec
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, If you do not fully remove the kernels they will still show and not be usable.
[17:10] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: :) thnaks
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: can you tell me which module was loaded for your sound device: lspci -k
[17:11] <Igor__> here i am again via laptop
[17:11] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: it results like ./configure
[17:11] <xentity1x> Hi, I have a somewhat urgent matter. I'm giving a presentation in an hour, and my laptop decided it doesn't want to output display to the projector anymore.
[17:11] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: configure: error: Could not link against boost_system !
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you give me the full output of ./configure
[17:12] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/ZUXe doesn't seem to really suggest which modue, or maybe I'm not reading it right
[17:12] <xentity1x> I'm running bumblebee, when I I go nvidia settings -display configuration, it says dfp-1 is disabled. Anyone know how I can enable it?
[17:12] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: if you want the radeon driver... sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev* then sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: seems it hasn't loaded a driver for it
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> oh and run sudo apt-get --purge fglrx* just in case
[17:13] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371593/
[17:13] <Igor__> yes but first i need to boot into my machine
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> 'k, good luck
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> afk
[17:13] <Igor__> where can i add boot parametars?
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: /etc/default/grub
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " line
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, tap shift if grub does not show at powering on and e for edit
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> e.g. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> then run sudo update-grub
[17:14] <Ari-Yang> (afk)
[17:15] <Igor__> thank you i going to try now
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, This for the addition ActionParsnip gave you?
[17:15] <xentity1x> I really need to get this figured out within 45 mins. Can someone please assist?
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you give me the output of: ls -l /usr/lib
[17:17] <Igor__> no
[17:19] <Atluxity> anyone know where I should look for the desktop wallpapers in the latest ubuntu?
[17:19] <Atluxity> they used to be in .gnome2
[17:20] <Igor__> i am noticing quite odd thing here... my latest two kernels where 3.5.0-41 and 42.... but when i chroot-ed and updated it, the new version that appears is 3.2.0-55
[17:20] <theadmin> Atluxity: /usr/share/backgrounds/
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> Atluxity, right click deskto-change background, you can make anything the image there though with a right click on it.
[17:20] <kriskropd> xentity1x: you should have 'nvidia-settings' or something, have oyu looked at that yet?
[17:20] <kriskropd> you*
[17:20] <xentity1x> kriskopd, yes
[17:21] <frog_> Atluxity: go to dash and type appearence. there you can change the background
[17:21] <xentity1x> kriskopd, Here's what it looks like http://i.imgur.com/zs2seYQ.png.
[17:21] <Atluxity> thanks theadmin
[17:22] <xentity1x> kriskopd, The dvi output to the projector is disabled, but I don;t know how to enable it.
[17:22] <theadmin> frog_: (s)he was looking for the actual pictures
[17:22] <Atluxity> wilee-nilee and frog_ : thats not what I asked
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> Atluxity, One never knows to be honest here if what one ask for is what they really want.
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: yep :D
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: well gotta debug it tomorrow
[17:23] <ztane> hitsujiTMO: atleast I have the icon...
[17:23] <Atluxity> wilee-nilee: I can see that :) ty for trying at least
[17:23] <kriskropd> xentity1x: does that DFP-1 item under GPU-0 conntain anything about neabling? and the dropdown in Layout that says "disabled", does it give any options?
[17:23] <frog_> theadmin: then did misunderstand her(him)
[17:23] <kriskropd> enabling*
[17:24] <xentity1x> kriskopd, one other option: seperate xscreen (requires xserver restart)
[17:24] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee i tried changing boot parameters, but no luck same thing, hangs on splash screen
[17:25] <Cepi> hello
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: have you installed the guest additions on the guest os?
[17:25] <Cepi> can some one help
[17:25] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: no not yet :/
[17:25] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371660/
[17:25] <Cepi>  i have problem with skype
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, YOu try nomodeset?
[17:25] <xentity1x> kriskrpod, but if i select it nothing happens
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: try that, it may contain the audio driver
[17:25] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: thanks, I'll get to it in a bit and see
[17:26] <Cepi> i install, but cant start
[17:26] <Igor__> wait, just to be sure, i have to boot via live usb, and than find on hdd my original grub file, and than change there?
[17:26] <Cepi> skype
[17:26] <kriskropd> xentity1x: it says you would need to restart xorg, right? so you might need to log out and back in for it to work
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, from a live cd that would need a chroot
[17:26] <frog_> Cepi: how did you install it?
[17:27] <Cepi> From .deb and i try later form terminal
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: thats not the full list. sudo apt-get install pastebinit; ls -l /usr/lib | pastebinit
[17:27] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: are you expecting it to mirror or share a single desktop? i don't think you want a seperate xscreen, if I'm understanding correctly
[17:28] <kriskropd> sorry hitsujiTMO , I meant htat for xentity1
[17:28] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> Igor__, I have an appointment, however I can't tell what it is your trying to do and or the actual problem, I'm not sure anyone else can, you might detail this out.
[17:29] <Cepi> frog_ i cant start skype
[17:30] <xangua> Cepi: did you install skype from software center¿
[17:30] <Cepi> i start but dont have him in processes
[17:30] <frog_> Cepi: did you restart since you installed it
[17:30] <Cepi> i restart
[17:30] <xentity1x> i tried restarting whenver I switch it just goes back to being disabled
[17:30] <Igor__> #wilee-nilee thanks for your help
[17:30] <Cepi> and nothing, no i remove him
[17:31] <Igor__> il figured it out somehow i hope
[17:31] <jhutchins_wk> We have something strange going on with multipath.  When we pull a cable to test failover, I/O hangs for 255 seconds consistently.
[17:31] <kriskropd> xentity1x: it might not be saving your configuration when you close nvidia-settings
[17:31] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: thanks for healping
[17:32] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371694/
[17:32] <Cepi> frog_ i dont know what is a problem
[17:32] <kriskropd> xentity1x: are you using the default ubuntu unity environment?
[17:33] <kriskropd> xentity1x: there should be some display controls in the control panel, did you try any of those?
[17:33] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: sorry!
[17:33] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: that's it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371699/
[17:33] <Cepi> i install again but wont to start
[17:33] <blake> Is there a more in depth way of seeing which patches have been applied to installed packages?
[17:34] <yeyeman> give me tips for a good irc client
[17:34] <xangua> !irc | yeyeman
[17:34] <Razkin> Does shutting down a Ubuntu computer without using shutdown, like just, clicking the power button and shutting it down by force, harm or interrupt my distro?
[17:34] <Rory> yeyeman: xchat, weechat, pidgin are probably the three most popular
[17:34] <Rory> Razkin: Potentially yes
[17:34] <Razkin> how, Rory?
[17:35]  * blake loves xchat
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: It can leave your filesystem in an inconsistent state if it was party-way through writing
[17:35]  * Razkin also loves xchat
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: Why do you ask? You might as well use shutdown
[17:35]  * kriskropd is happy with irssi over ssh
[17:35] <Razkin> when my laptop runs out of distro
[17:35] <Razkin> it shuts down by force
[17:35] <Rory> Razkin: If you're asking because you did it once it won't be a huge issue, just best not to make a habit of it
[17:36] <Rory> Razkin: of battery?
[17:36] <Razkin> yes, battery
[17:36] <Razkin> sorry
[17:36] <Razkin> is this harmful
[17:36] <xentity1x> kriskropd, yeah im using unity. i tried display settings. not much there
[17:36] <Rory> Razkin: If you go to the power options in Ubuntu you should find an option to shut down the system when the battery is critically low
[17:36] <yeyeman> is pidgin a irc client??
[17:36] <xentity1x> kriskropd, i tried saving the changes to the xorg file. didnt seem to take
[17:36] <theadmin> yeyeman: It can be used as one, but isn't a good idea to do so, it doesn't support many IRC things.
[17:36] <Rory> yeyeman: It supports multiple protocols. It's quite simple as an IRC client but there are many in here who use it full-time with no problems
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> when amarok is playing a stream. how do i make it continue to play the next song? it reads the song title and gets lyrics. but it doesnt play
[17:37] <blake> I have looked at lsb-release and /etc/os-releas but for certain security compliance I need to see the patches added to versions of some of the packages.  Any idea how to get that information?
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> i have to press stop/play to make it work
[17:37] <Rory> blake: If you look at the page for the package on launchpad you can see the original package, and a diff with ubuntu patches I believe
[17:37] <yeyeman> well I'm currently using kvirc and it's the most bloated piece of crapware ever
[17:37] <AcidRain2012> im switching to amarok from rhythmbox because rhythmbox says i have to login to the .fm to play my own streams now
[17:37] <kriskropd> xentity1x: I don't know much about fancy display layouts or modifying them flexibly, but it seems like it shouldn't be that hard :/
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: can you try these 2 commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371729/    then try ./configure                again
[17:38] <xentity1x> kriskropd, yeah i know. Funny thing is its worked before. It just stopped suddenly
[17:38] <kriskropd> xentity1x: is there nowhere else in nvidia-settings that suggests how to enable DFP-1?
[17:38] <blake> Rory: thanks!  Does it make a difference how the packages were installed?
[17:38] <Rory> yeyeman: xchat is a powerful, relatively easy to use graphical client which has a lot of users and is well supported
[17:39] <Rory> blake: I am assuming they were installed from the repositories
[17:39] <blake> Rory: thanks... I'll look into it.
[17:41] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: takes no differense http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371745/
[17:41] <s_faraday> :(
[17:41] <AcidRain2012> hmmm... idk what i did to amarok. but it plays fine now
[17:42] <drake_> Hey i want to learn programming for device drivers on ubuntu
[17:42] <drake_> is there any good book??
[17:42] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: actually it did make a difference: 1st error was Could not link against boost_system ! now its: Could not link against boost_filesystem !   :) so we're on the right track
[17:42] <ikonia> drake_: any kernel programming introduction book
[17:42] <drake_> Okay..
[17:42] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: :D
[17:43] <drake_> so there isn't any specific to ubuntu
[17:43] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: i'm tired it tooks me one hole day!
[17:43] <ikonia> drake_: ubuntu uses the linux kernel....
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: 2 secs
[17:43] <drake_> okay gotcha
[17:43] <drake_> ikonia: thanks
[17:43] <ikonia> drake_: perhaps a basic level of understanding of how the operating system works, would be a better time investment before you consider trying to write "driver" for it
[17:44] <Rory> drake_: This book is often referenced [ http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ ] but you have to be an extremely competant user-space programmer already
[17:44] <bekks> drake_: just for the logs, there is a kernel driver cookbook.
[17:44] <charge> hey guys a have a problem with xubuntu 13.10.
[17:44] <Igor__> here is my detailed problem. i am runing ubuntu 12.04 with amd radeon 7750 graphic, and proprietary drivers from amd (not from repository), i wanted to update my system, but as i already had a lot of problems, first i removed all fglrx drivers from ubuntu, rebooted, and then let update do his thing. after that, my kernel moved from version 3.5.0-41 to 3.5.0-42, and after reboot i removed my...
[17:44] <Igor__> ...old kernel (41) via synaptic manager...after that i cant boot my system... earlier today, one member told me to boot from live usb, and chroot to my system, and than install kernel, i did that by following this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels   and all it happened, is that new kernel (3.2.0-55) appears in...
[17:44] <Igor__> ...'Previous linux version' grub option. Cant give more detailed explanation than this...thank you
[17:44] <FloodBot1> Igor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <drake_> okay.. well luckily i have this subject in my semester
[17:45] <Rory> drake_: Basically, don't try to run before you can walk :)
[17:45] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: so, I mounted the guest addition dist and tried 'sudo /mnt/cdrom/runasroot.sh' and got some goofy message instead http://sprunge.us/QdOS
[17:45] <kriskropd> disk*
[17:46] <drake_> Rory: hahah.. i'll be careful
[17:46] <drake_> :)
[17:46] <Rory> kriskropd: That's not the file you want to run, it's called VBoxLinuxAdditions or similar
[17:46] <blake> Rory: export OUT=`dpkg --get-selections | awk '{ print $1 }' -`;for A in $OUT;do dpkg -l $A >> mypkgs.txt; done
[17:46] <Rory> kriskropd: "runasroot.sh" is just *used* by that program for some part of its functionality
[17:46] <kriskropd> Rory: ah, oops
[17:46] <Igor__> here is my detailed problem. i am runing ubuntu 12.04 with amd radeon 7750 graphic, and proprietary drivers from amd (not from repository), i wanted to update my system, but as i already had a lot of problems, first i removed all fglrx drivers from ubuntu, rebooted, and then let update do his thing. after that, my kernel moved from version 3.5.0-41 to 3.5.0-42, and after reboot i removed my...
[17:46] <Igor__> ...old kernel (41) via synaptic manager...after that i cant boot my system... earlier today, one member told me to boot from live usb, and chroot to my system, and than install kernel, i did that by following this tutorial http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371774/   and all it happened, is that new kernel (3.2.0-55) appears in 'Previous linux version' grub option. Cant give more detailed explanation...
[17:46] <Igor__> ...than this...thank you
[17:46] <FloodBot1> Igor__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:46] <kriskropd> Rory: I see, thanks
[17:47] <charge> why the sound plugin in xubuntu 13.10 doesnt work ?
[17:47] <Rory> Igor__: You say you can't boot your system, what happens when you try?
[17:47] <kriskropd> Rory: I'm not sure how I missed that, must've blended in with allt he other .exe files included
[17:47] <Rory> !xubuntu | charge
[17:48] <Igor__> just hangs on splash screen
[17:49] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: instlaling guest additions dind't seem to help the audio drivr situation at all
[17:50] <kriskropd> wow typoes ._.
[17:50] <charge> btw can any1 redirect me to the linux mint chat also ?
[17:50] <Rory> !mint | charge
[17:50] <charge> thank you Rory
[17:50] <Rory> !nomodeset | Igor__ might be worth trying this before anything more complicated
[17:50] <Rory> I'm like the bot master tonight
[17:53] <daftykins> Rory: just don't go abusing ubottu now ;)
[17:53] <Igor__> #ubottu there is nomodeset parametar in my grub for new kernel
[17:53] <Rory> Igor__: ubottu is a bot, I am the human
[17:53] <Igor__> #Rory sorry
[17:54] <suyash1629> can any one please help me.. i was working on android sources but because of getting problems in ubuntu, i backuped the source codes and reinstalled the ubuntu. i backuped the source code to my external hardisk which was FAT32 system and i once mistakely connected it to windows too. Since i restored the source codes i m getting errors: fatal: unable to start /media/Stockage/source/.repo/repo/main.py fatal: [Errno 13] Permission den
[17:54] <Rory> Igor__: If you remove the "quiet" and "splash" parameters, and try booting, do you see any error?
[17:54] <theadmin> suyash1629: FAT can't into UNIX permissions. Tweak files which need to be executable so that they are: chmod +x filename
[17:54] <Igor__> leave with just nomodeset?
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: now try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371800/   then ./configure
[17:55] <theadmin> suyash1629: Any scripts (.py, .sh, .pl, .rb, ...) will likely need that permission.
[17:55] <suyash1629> theadmin: there are lots of scripts, how can i change permissions of all of them
[17:56] <Igor__> #Rory it just logs in tty1 and says no caching mode page present
[17:56] <esde> i have a question about email, regarding DNS and A entries, where would be a good channel to seek information? #email seems to bedefunct
[17:56] <Rory> Igor__: Can you switch to a different console(TTY)?
[17:56] <esde> *be defunct
[17:56] <theadmin> suyash1629: eeeh. That'd be difficult. You can make the entire directory executable recursively: chmod -R +x /media/Stockage/source
[17:56] <theadmin> suyash1629: That may have negative side effects, but I don't see what kind to be honest.
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: restarted the vm and all?
[17:56] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: yeah, did nothing :/
[17:56] <Rory> esde: If you're setting it up on an Ubuntu machine, no harm in asking here.
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: ok, once more try: alsactl init
[17:58] <suyash1629> theadmin: so what should i use in place of /media/Stockage/source my source codes are on User/android/system
[17:58] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: same error 'alsactl: init:1758: no soundcards found
[17:58] <Igor__> #Rory yes i can , this time he told me something about unknowsn parametar nomodeset
[17:58] <Igor__> unknown*
[17:58] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: done! I can't believe :D
[17:58] <theadmin> suyash1629: Ah, well, whatever directory they are in
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: :)
[17:58] <Rory> Igor__: Did you perhaps misspell nomodeset ?
[17:58] <esde> Nah, I moved my DNS from my old hosting provider to the registrar I purchased the domains from. Then I setup third-party email hosting. The third-party email host had me add an mx entry for their service. However, there are A records under the dns for email and webmail of my domain registrar. My third-party email host seems to think those A entries are necessary, but I can't see why. And their recommendation is to host DNS with them. I'm very confused.
[17:59] <Rory> !nomodeset | Igor__ follow these instructions very carefully
[17:59] <suyash1629> theadmin: ok well m trying that..
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[17:59] <esde> I'd like to remove the A entries and be done with it
[18:00] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: didn't spit out anything back in return
[18:00] <Igor__> #Rory no its not misspelled but i will try some other options shown on those instructions
[18:00] <Rory> esde: You'll need a DNS entry for the webmail because it's just a webpage; the fact it's something vaguely to do with email is irrelevant
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lsmod | grep ^snd
[18:00] <Rory> esde: Without an A record for, (eg) webmail.esde.com how will your browser know where to go when you type that?
[18:01] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/eHER
[18:01] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: so why 'make' still has these errors again? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371858/
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: lspci -k   again
[18:02] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: same old :/
[18:02] <Chat7202> Hi guys
[18:02] <diminoten> upgrading the version of glibc isn't going to cause problems is it?
[18:02] <theadmin> diminoten: As long as the update comes from the repos.
[18:02] <diminoten> that's the problem
[18:02] <suyash1629> theadmin: not working. terminal returns chmod: cannot access `/xist/android/system': No such file or directory. xist is the home directory
[18:03] <diminoten> I need 2.15 but only 2.11 is in the repos
[18:03] <esde> So those A records /are/ just there if i chose to use my domain registrars crappy webmail?
[18:03] <iceroot_> diminoten: dont ever update glibc if it is not from the repos
[18:03] <diminoten> so what do I do?
[18:03] <theadmin> suyash1629: "/xist" is unlikely to be the home directory. It's /home/username most of the time. Or you can just use ~ to address the current user's home directory.
[18:03] <theadmin> suyash1629: So ~/android/system
[18:03] <esde> I visit webmail.esde.com and it takes me to netfirms webmail which is not useful to me at all
[18:03] <diminoten> is there a repo I can add?
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: that seems to be an error in the code itself
[18:03] <hellangel> diminoten, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/847179/multiple-glibc-libraries-on-a-single-host
[18:03] <iceroot_> diminoten: dont update it, as i said :) everything else is not supported here and normally may/will bremak the system
[18:04] <diminoten> haha but I *need* 2.15
[18:04] <theadmin> diminoten: If it's not from the repos, then it's a terrible idea as it will likely break about everything.
[18:04] <hellangel> diminoten, build it and dont install it, but give the compiler the new path of the library
[18:04] <theadmin> diminoten: How do you "need" 2.15? What for?
[18:04] <Chat7202> Goodbye not that anyone noticed I wa here
[18:04] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: oops, I got it from sourceforge
[18:04] <esde> bye Chat7202
[18:04] <kriskropd> Chat7202: this is a support channel
[18:04] <hellangel> Chat7202, this is more of a support channel than a social channel ;)
[18:05] <diminoten> testing software that was build with 2.15
[18:05] <diminoten> built*
[18:05] <kriskropd> !offtopic | Chat7202
[18:05] <suyash1629> theadmin: will it take long time? source code is around 34GBs
[18:05] <Chat7202> Thanks esde
[18:05] <iceroot_> diminoten: ubuntu 12.04 has Version: 2.15-0ubuntu10
[18:05] <theadmin> suyash1629: wat. That's huge for a source code.
[18:05] <diminoten> 10.04
[18:05] <diminoten> is the version I'm using
[18:05] <hellangel> diminoten, time to update your ubuntu ;)
[18:05] <theadmin> diminoten: Ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported.
[18:05] <Chat7202> Ok thanks guys now inunderstand
[18:05] <diminoten> isn't 10.04 lts?
[18:05] <hellangel> i thought 12.04 is LTS
[18:06] <Ari-Yang> !10.04 | diminoten
[18:06] <iceroot_> diminoten: server edition is still supported not the deskop version
[18:06] <theadmin> diminoten: Yes, but it's already too old anyway. It's out of the LTS support date even.
[18:06] <diminoten> that's actually good news
[18:06] <theadmin> diminoten: You need to update to 12.04.
[18:06] <diminoten> because now I can say that
[18:06] <diminoten> heh
[18:06] <Ari-Yang> 10.04 desktop is eol
[18:06] <iceroot_> theadmin: no its not, server is supported 5 years and server also includes libc6
[18:06] <Ari-Yang> !eol
[18:06] <suyash1629> theadmin: thats a huge one.. ok well its just complelted.. i m trying to repo init the source code
[18:06] <linuxuser1000> hello
[18:06] <linuxuser1000> i want to upgrade my kernel to the newest
[18:06] <theadmin> iceroot_: Eh, valid point, sorry
[18:07] <iceroot_> diminoten: i would suggest upgrade to 12.04 instead of upgrading libc6
[18:07] <linuxuser1000> which headers package should i use
[18:07] <diminoten> ah yeah ubuntu 10.04 lts server is still supported
[18:07] <linuxuser1000> the amd64 or all
[18:07] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[18:07] <linuxuser1000> i'm on 64 bit
[18:07] <Igor__> nothing changed...tried radeon.modeset=0, nomodeset, with and withoud quiet and splash
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: could be a broken build, try a different version of the code
[18:07] <Igor__> same thing all the time...
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371884/
[18:07] <diminoten> heh the fact is, I can either upgrade these 8 boxes to 12.04 *or* just downgrade the build server to 10.04
[18:07] <diminoten> and I don't have infinite time
[18:07] <Tetracomm> I am using Ubuntu 13.10 on a new computer. How do I contribute my feedback of its performance and malfunctions to the Ubuntu developers?
[18:07] <Rory> Igor__: Is a reinstall out of the question? It might be simpler to boot from a LiveUSB/CD and back up your data and reinstall
[18:07] <iceroot_> diminoten: both ok but dont mess with libc6
[18:08] <Rory> Tetracomm: File bugs, mark existing bugs as affecting you
[18:08] <diminoten> okay that's good info to know
[18:08] <theadmin> Tetracomm: If you find a bug, run "ubuntu-bug packagename" from a terminal.
[18:08] <iceroot_> diminoten: that is the most critical package if that is broken, everything is broken
[18:08] <diminoten> I figured there was something special about it
[18:08] <Rory> Tetracomm: I can help you with those things if you provide a little more info
[18:08] <Igor__> as far i see, that is the only option right now
[18:08] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: each one: "FATAL: Module $1 not found."
[18:08] <theadmin> Tetracomm: packagename is the name of the application package that the bug is on, usually matches the app name
[18:08] <theadmin> Tetracomm: So for example, ubuntu-bug firefox
[18:08] <linuxuser1000> what's the difference between the kernel headers all and the amd64 ones
[18:08] <linuxuser1000> ?
[18:08] <Igor__> but i really have a lot of programs, and it will be huge job to install them again, and do all the setup
[18:08] <Rory> Igor__: I also recommend a) only installing the fglrx driver if you really absolutely need to, and b) only installing it from the repositories
[18:08] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: the $1 not literal, of course
[18:08] <linuxuser1000> if you have a 64 bit machine
[18:09] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: what are you trying to do?
[18:09] <Igor__> i am trying to boot my system after removing old kernels
[18:10] <Tetracomm> Rory: Ok. It isn't a package i'm aware of. When am at the login screen, it often hangs when I try to type in the password, it does this abut half the time. I just installed it a few days ago. It also cannot wake from suspend (this never worked). I am not sure how to get the error data for these issues.
[18:10] <Ari-Yang> linuxuser1000:  use the headers and headers all
[18:10] <Ari-Yang> you need both
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: damn, running out of ideas so :P whats in?: ls -l /dev/snd
[18:11] <suyash1629> theadmin: Thanks a lot.. it worked for me.. i was so scared that i have to download those source codes again.. many many thanks..
[18:11] <linuxuser1000> after installing them i'm gonna go and remove the 3.11
[18:11] <linuxuser1000> one
[18:11] <theadmin> suyash1629: No problems
[18:11] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: http://sprunge.us/UBOE
[18:11] <Ari-Yang> linuxuser1000: okay, you're installing kernel 3.12?
[18:11] <linuxuser1000> yep
[18:12] <Igor__> #Ari-Yang here is my detailed explanation
[18:12] <Rory> Tetracomm: FYI that is still a package, it is lightdm. After you log in, you could check the files /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[18:12] <Igor__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6371928/
[18:12] <Ari-Yang> linuxuser1000: I will too later
[18:12] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: I've had sound issues before, but this one has been pretty unique as virtualbox ubuntu guest vms hav enever had this problem withme
[18:12] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: I'm not sure :/
[18:12] <Tetracomm> Rory: Ok, should I just copy those files into pastebin? I don't know how to interpret those things.
[18:13] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: the only difference is I'm using macintosh 10.8 as the host, which is a first for me
[18:13] <Rory> Tetracomm: Absolutely please do
[18:13] <Ari-Yang> linuxuser1000: does your computer have amd or nvidia?
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: defo not loading. i've a feeling it needs those oss modules, but they need to be loaded in a particular way. I'm out of ideas on this. hopefully someone else can shed some light. the only other thing you can try is if virtualbox offers other sound devices to be emulated
[18:13] <Igor__> no playing with kernels any more :/
[18:13] <linuxuser1000> i have intel currently
[18:13] <linuxuser1000> intel integrated on a laptop
[18:13] <thekkid> If I needed to recompile mysql from source would I just first do a apt-get purge mysql
[18:13] <Rory> Igor__: I'm a huge fan of the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" philosophy
[18:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: I mess with my kernels all the time and have never had a problem. I think you removed something you should've have removed
[18:14] <thekkid> Then download the source and compile it.
[18:14] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: I also use the terminal to uninstall kernels
[18:14] <Rory> Ari-Yang: Igor__ : Part of the problem was you installed the new kernel, and then removed the old ones without checking that the new one worked! Now you have nothing to fall back to
[18:14] <Rory> thekkid: Yes
[18:15] <Igor__> yes that is exactly the problem
[18:15] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: wait what, is this true? yeah that's a bad move; never ever remove old kernels when updating to a new one, and you should always have 1 or 2 kernels installed that you know work
[18:15] <Ari-Yang> Igor__: just in case you have to fallback and use it, you can.
[18:15] <linuxuser1000> ok so now if i reboot it should in theory go into the new kernet
[18:15] <linuxuser1000> *kernel
[18:16] <Rory> linuxuser1000: Correct, you can verify this yourself by looking at the Grub boot menu
[18:16] <Igor__> learned a lesson harder way
[18:16] <Ari-Yang> linuxuser1000: once you install the kernel image, headers, and headers all, the new kernel will be default
[18:16] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: trying an older version did the same
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: just noticed its from 2008 ... a lot could have changed with gcc or libboost etc since then.
[18:16] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: yes too old
[18:16] <wilee-nilee> I'm a big fan of clone the working OS.
[18:17] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO:  hmm :/ so what should I do.. there is no earlier code
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: wouldn't hurt to give try and give them a email
[18:17] <kriskropd> hitsujiTMO: looking at vbox settings for the vm, there are two controllers I've not tried yet: Intel HD Audio and SoundBlaster 16 - so I'll try looking into those next -- It's past lunch now and I'm hungry, so afk :) thansk for the helpful attempt
[18:17] <s_faraday> yes
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> kriskropd: np
[18:18] <Igor__> problem is that i use ssd for my system, and its only 64 gb, so im pretty tied with space, and every ~100 mb means to me...that is the reason i am removing old kernels...
[18:18] <Tetracomm> Rory: http://pastebin.com/kqcXA16u
[18:18] <twilight_> it worked
[18:18] <twilight_> uname -r prints out 3.12.0-031200-generic
[18:19] <linuxuser1000> the kernel upgrade worked
[18:19] <linuxuser1000> it prints out 3.12.0-031200-generic
[18:19] <linuxuser1000> the uname -r command
[18:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: thanks for help me
[18:20] <linuxuser1000> i see it fixed that missing letter bits problem
[18:20] <xeno_> Say, my npm installs of node and nodeunit both result in non-functional commands at the shell.  Is this a known problem?  http://pastebin.com/WbUj7EnW
[18:20] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: so kind are you :)
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: lol, np at all
[18:21] <s_faraday> :D
[18:21] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: bye
[18:21] <Rory> Hmm Tetracomm I can't see anything out of the ordinary in there. Does it do it every time without fail?
[18:21] <linuxuser1000> now to remove that old 3.11
[18:21] <linuxuser1000> one
[18:21] <xangua> linuxuser1000: why do you want to remove the kernel¿
[18:21] <linuxuser1000> i upgraded
[18:21] <designbybeck> HP EliteBook 2760p I can't install any version of Ubuntu 12.04.3 or 13.10 here is what I get after grub: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=62081
[18:21] <linuxuser1000> to 3.12
[18:21] <linuxuser1000> and it works
[18:22] <xangua> linuxuser1000: 3.12 doesn't seems to be on saucy repository
[18:22] <linuxuser1000> i downloaded it from the ppa
[18:22] <linuxuser1000> the kernel mainline
[18:22] <linuxuser1000> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[18:23] <iceroot_> i am totally confused, kernel.org now has bugzilla for tracking bugs and not LKML :)
[18:23] <xangua> linuxuser1000: if you are using a kernel not incluided in ubuntu repository you are mostly on your own and remove the kernel from official repository doesn't sound loke a Good Idea
[18:23] <fishduck> if you apt-get install something, will it download the source and compile, or download the binaries?
[18:23] <iceroot_> fishduck: binaries
[18:23] <hellangel> fishduck, binaries in debian packages
[18:24] <iceroot_> fishduck: ubuntu is a binary distribution and not compiling stuff, it will also not download the source, if you want the sourcecode apt-get source packagename
[18:24] <fishduck> aight
[18:24] <Rory> fishduck: binaries. If you want the source you do "sudo apt-get build-dep foo && sudo apt-get -b source foo"
[18:24] <xeno_> I'm using 13.10.
[18:25] <Tetracomm> Rory: No, it does it about half the time. It did it a while ago, so I restarted, and it worked this time. The screen never turns back on when waking from suspend, though.
[18:26] <Rory> Tetracomm: What graphics hardware do you have?
[18:27] <designbybeck> Anyone get Ubuntu installed on an HP EliteBook?
[18:27] <designbybeck> After a reboot this is what I get http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=62081
[18:27] <Rory> designbybeck: Does it come with Windows 8 by default?
[18:28] <designbybeck> Has a windows 7 sticker on it, not sure what it originally came with Rory
[18:28] <Rory> designbybeck: The simplest way to install Linux on such machines is to disable SecureBoot in the BIOS before installation
[18:28] <Tetracomm> Rory: AMD Radeon HD 7640G
[18:28] <Rory> Oh sorry my mistake
[18:28] <designbybeck> I'll have to search for how to do that on this HP Bios, didn't seem straight forward Rory
[18:28] <Rory> designbybeck: No ignore me, I made an assumption
[18:29] <Rory> Tetracomm: Do you have the proprietry drivers (fglrx) installed, or just the open-source radeon one that comes already with Ubuntu?
[18:30] <Rory> designbybeck: If you still have your installation media available you can boot from it and use a tool called BootRepair which might do the trick https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:31] <designbybeck> I've tried that Rory  I thought it was going to be my Saviour but it didn't work
[18:31] <Tetracomm> Rory: I'll assume it was the one that came with Ubuntu since I never did any video driver installations.
[18:31] <designbybeck> That did help with a few others I tried Rory
[18:32] <Rory> designbybeck: When you are on the Grub boot menu, press E on the default boot option to edit it. Then find the line that says "root=UUID=xxxxxxxxx" and remove that part. Then press ctrl-x to boot and see if that works
[18:33] <Rory> designbybeck: Only remove the text that says "root=UUID=blahblahblah" not any of the rest
[18:33] <Rory> designbybeck: If it boots like that, I will tell you how to make that change permanant
[18:33] <Geyverson> Instalei o ubuntu x64, o trclado está normal e rápido, mais o ponteiro do mouse trava... testei outros mouse mesma coisa...
[18:34] <Rory> !portuguese | Geyverson
[18:34] <martinrame> After "pvresize" I'm getting "sda5 too small for target". Help please!.
[18:34] <Rory> My sincere apologies if that wasn't actually Portuguese
[18:35] <bekks> martinrame: So what was the exact command you issued?
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: have you tried chrooting in and running update-grub   ?
[18:35] <DJones> Rory: Google translate says it was, good call
[18:36] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO, i think  Idid try that
[18:36] <designbybeck> Rory let me try
[18:36] <martinrame> bekks: sorry, I did "pvresize --setphysicalvolumesize 850G /dev/sda5", then lvextend -L +830G /dev/mydisk"
[18:37] <linuxuser1000> yay my kernel is at the newest version
[18:37] <xeno_> so when I remove, then reinstall nodejs from root with apt-get install nodejs, I get a node command on /usr/sbin/node which does nothing.  node -v does nothing.  Also, it does not show up immediately in my path.  It appears the debian install for nodejs on 13.10 is broken.
[18:37] <martinrame> bekks: the problem is that is the / partition.
[18:37] <diminoten> heh I just started a release upgrade on 9 servers at once... I *really* hope no one minds I did that
[18:37] <Hansford> having a hard time with ubuntu finding my cdroms...they light up at boot time but cant open both once I get to the log on screen
[18:37] <xeno_> I have rhino installed on my ubuntu, and it appears to run fine.
[18:37] <Hansford> can someone help me
[18:38] <designbybeck> Rory, it just goes to the blinking prompt, but it is a differnet error message now
[18:38] <Rory> designbybeck: What error message now?
[18:39] <Rory> Hansford: If you open a terminal and type in the command: "eject" and press Enter, do either of your drives eject?
[18:39] <designbybeck> Rory, http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=62082
[18:39] <Hansford> nope
[18:39] <Rory> Hansford: Do you get an error message?
[18:40] <martinrame> After "lvextend" I'm getting "sda5 too small for target". Help please!.
[18:40] <designbybeck> Rory should I tri hitsujiTMO  suggetsion and try update-grub?
[18:40] <Hansford> unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:40] <designbybeck>  though I'll have to find those instructions again
[18:40] <Rory> designbybeck: It's a little convuluted, but there are some instructions here http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: can post the output of: sudo blkid       and and post the /etc/fstab from the root of the drive?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: kinda looks like the fstab is broken
[18:41] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO,  I can't log in at all,
[18:41] <designbybeck> or do you mean from a livedisk?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: boot a live cd
[18:41] <Hansford> Rory , I took the cpu apart , clean, double check the cables, and slave/master settings
[18:42] <Rory> Hansford: Can you try "sudo eject -i off"
[18:42] <designbybeck> Doing that now Hi
[18:43] <Hansford> sud276-783-2057
[18:43] <Tetracomm> Rory: :(
[18:43] <Rory> Hansford: What's the context of your last message?
[18:43] <designbybeck> ok hitsujiTMO  I'm in
[18:44] <Hansford> CD-Drive may be ejected with device button
[18:44] <Hansford>  
[18:44] <Hansford> press both cd's buttons and no luck
[18:45] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO,  here is the output of blkid: http://pasteall.org/47071
[18:47] <alex11481> salve
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Hansford: try:  sudo eject /dev/sr0
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: mount sda6 and post the etc/fstab from there
[18:47] <Hansford> Rory , I have switched from debain to ubunta studio...
[18:47] <designbybeck> says it can mount it hitsujiTMO
[18:48] <designbybeck> can't find sda6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:48] <hellangel> designbybeck, sudo fdisk -l  | grep /dev/
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: sudo mkdir /mnt/sda6; sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sda6
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: sould be /mnt/sda6/etc/fstab then
[18:49] <alex11481> salve saluti a tutti, sono nuovo di xchat e di ubbuntu, avrei bisogno di un italiano che mi dia una mano
[18:49] <Hansford> nothing
[18:49] <hellangel> !italian | alex11481
[18:49] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO,  in green is the new code: http://pasteall.org/47073
[18:49] <alex11481> grazie
[18:50] <crashtester> salve
[18:50] <hellangel> nessu problema
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: this should work:    sudo mkdir /mnt/sda6; sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/sda6
[18:51] <designbybeck> yes that worked hitsujiTMO  wiouth error
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: post /mnt/sda6/etc/fstab then
[18:52] <designbybeck> is post a command? because it didn't find post hitsujiTMO  or are you meaning post the results here?
[18:52] <hellangel> post the content of fstab
[18:52] <Nick___> How would I find some technical help to figure out why Ubuntu 12 LTS is locking up.
[18:52] <Lewes> Help! My FTP user cannot upload jar files.
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: lol sorry mean post the contents of /dev/sda6/etc/fstab
[18:52] <Lewes> Error is 550.
[18:52] <designbybeck> do I just cat it?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Nick___: test ram using memtest86+ and try the Unity2D session instead of the Compiz nonsesne
[18:53] <designbybeck> cat /dev/sda6/etc/fstab ? hitsujiTMO ?
[18:53] <Nick___> unity 2d ok... thanks
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Nick___: selectable from the login page
[18:53] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO,  http://pasteall.org/47075
[18:54] <Nick___> give it a try thanks.
[18:54] <Lewes> How do I increase my FTP file max size?
[18:55] <PDilyard> is 'suspend' the same as 'sleep' in windows?
[18:55] <fishduck> so when you've installed something, should you remove the directory you installed it form? (some gz.tar file.. compiled with make)
[18:55] <soultrap> hello, can anybody tell me how to turn off hotkeys in ubuntu, please?
[18:55] <silidan1> fishduck: how did you install it exactly?
[18:55] <CatKiller> PDilyard: PRetty much
[18:56] <fishduck> silidan1: unpack. ./config .. make .. make install
[18:56] <PDilyard> CatKiller: so, unlike hibernation, it doesnt cause wear on an SSD?
[18:56] <CatKiller> PDilyard: hibernation doesn't really cause wear
[18:56] <hellangel> soultrap, open "keyboard", disable what you dont want
[18:56] <CatKiller> it just writes crap to the drive
[18:56] <silidan1> fishduck: id suggest not to use make install, use instead checkinstall it will pack everything up in a nice and sleek debian package so you can uninstall it later via package manage
[18:57] <CatKiller> I suppose it will wear it out less ues
[18:57] <CatKiller> *yes
[18:57] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO, because we mounted it, do I run the update-grub ?
[18:57] <kriskropd> PDilyard: suspend should save only to the RAM, hibernation will save to disk and ram
[18:57] <PDilyard> CatKiller: i meant unnecessary writes
[18:57] <PDilyard> kriskropd: ok thanks for the clarification
[18:58] <CatKiller> PDilyard: Sure
[18:58] <PDilyard> CatKiller: thanks
[18:58] <silidan1> hint at all: if anyone asks how to fix no sound in ubuntu 13.10 first advice: deinstall pulseaudio fixed all my problems now sound works fine
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: no... thats not a chroot
[18:58] <silidan1> and i really mean PURGE PULSEAUDIO
[18:59] <fishduck> silidan1: but I don't need the installation directory, do I?
[18:59] <soultrap> hellangel, not sure which one I must disable... every time I play dota and press alt, game screen shrinks and I can't restore it
[18:59] <Hansford> no luck here
[18:59] <silidan1> fishduck: make install can produce a mess, dont use it, if you used it first try to uninstall with make uninstall, then go the checkinstall way and you can then delete the source
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: can you cat the grub config: cat /mnt/sda6/boot/grub.cfg
[19:00] <hellangel> soultrap, well, alt is a shortcut for the unity desktop to run a command..
[19:00] <hellangel> soultrap, im not really sure if you can disable it, but i would just recommend you to switch desktops :>
[19:00] <fishduck> silidan1: not that important. It's a virtual machine that I'm playing around with
[19:01] <Hansford> Rory....no luck with cdroms here....
[19:01] <soultrap> is there a way to disable them all at once before I start game and reenable after?
[19:01] <soultrap> huh
[19:01] <silidan1> fishduck: yea but maybe one day it will get important and then you have the habbit of doing messy things
[19:01] <soultrap> switch desktops?
[19:01] <fishduck> silidan1: but do you still need to keep the install dir? or can you delete it?
[19:02] <designbybeck> hitsujiTMO,  http://pasteall.org/47076
[19:03] <silidan1> fishduck: in theory you can delete it, BUT no one will know then where it installed what files... this clutters your system sooner or later, thats why i advised you to use checkinstall which produces a .deb package you can use to install/deinstall then you can get rid of source directory without fear
[19:03] <fishduck> ah, now I get it. Makes sense silidan1
[19:03] <silidan1> fishduck: no offense, but was about time...
[19:04] <silidan1> fishduck: :D
[19:04] <fishduck> ;p
[19:05] <makara> hi. I thought SSH was easy to do but I have problems adding authorized keys. Anyone?
[19:05] <fishduck> makara: first time you connect, one is automatically created. However, you can do it manually, is that what you want?
[19:06] <hellangel> makara, have a file ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, and use "chmod og-rwx ~/.ssh -R"
[19:06] <AceKing> I just put a new sound card into my PC. I was having too much trouble with the built in card. Is there a way to delete it, or comment it out?
[19:07] <silidan1> AceKing: why dont you rip out the old card?
[19:07] <AceKing> silidan1: it's built into the MB
[19:08] <silidan1> AceKing: well bit big sound card then... hope your strong enough
[19:08] <makara> hellangel, still..
[19:08] <Trudko> guys I have 13.10 but I cant seem to be able to install apache2 2.2.22 version from repository
[19:08] <Trudko> i am new to ubuntu, does this mean that it is  missing from packages?
[19:08] <AceKing> silidan1: Not a good answer. LOL
[19:08] <hellangel> makara, well what is not working?
[19:08] <makara> fishduck, added to known_hosts
[19:08] <hellangel> makara, any more information than "doesnt work" would be helpful..
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: hmm, your boot.cfg seems correct, and your fstab seems correct. were there any updates installed before the issue occurred?
[19:09] <silidan1> AceKing: you could blacklist the module for the old card... you could also tell alsa which one to pick per default... but i dont know how
[19:09] <makara> fishduck, hellangel, I copy the contents of id_dsa.pub on the remote machine, and create authorized_keys files and paste into that.
[19:09] <xangua> Trudko: apache version of saucy is 2.4.6
[19:09] <xangua> !info apache2 | Trudko
[19:10] <makara> but when I login with "ssh name@host" it asks me for password
[19:10] <minimec> AceKing: You can configure 'alsa' on boot and choose the card you want to use per default settings... This could be a start... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=922860
[19:10] <hellangel> makara, in the home directory of the right user and it having the right permissions and SSHD started
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: can you: cat /mnt/sda6/var/log/apt/history.log
[19:10] <AceKing> minimec: Thank you
[19:11] <hellangel> makara, so you have your id_dsa file in your ~/.ssh folder localy and the public key in the "authorized_keys" file in the home folder of "name" on the remote host, right?
[19:11] <silidan1> AceKing: or if you use pulseaudio and it happens to work, you could just pick the new card as its output...
[19:11] <Trudko> xangua, does this mean i cant istall older versions from repository?
[19:11] <AceKing> silidan1: I tried that, but it keeps defauling back to the built in card
[19:11] <TheyTookerJobs2> Hi :) I was wondering if I could get some assistance on figuring out how to create event listeners? For example if I hit Fn+down I want to dim my screen. I have the codes from the acpi listen I just don't know how to assign it to editing the brightness
[19:12] <silidan1> AceKing: then revert to my solution to pulseaudi problem: purge pulseaudio
[19:12] <Hansford> ok at boot time the computer is checking both cd drives to boot up but once I get the grub and log on cant do nothing with them...
[19:12] <AceKing> silidan1: OK, I will try that. Thank you
[19:12] <makara> hellangel, no. I have id_dsa and id_dsa.pub on remote machine, and I copy id_dsa.pub to local authorized_keys.
[19:13] <silidan1> AceKing: you know what i meant with purge exactly?
[19:13] <hellangel> makara, and you are trying to connect from your remote machine to your local? oO
[19:13] <Tetracomm> Rory?
[19:13] <AceKing> silidan1: Through the package manager, right?
[19:13] <makara> hellangel, no. Connecting from local to remote
[19:13] <silidan1> AceKing: yep
[19:13] <hellangel> makara, the private key is your personal authentication, that needs to be on your local host and the public key on the servers you want access to..
[19:13] <AceKing> silidan1: Thanks
[19:14] <hellangel> makara, so you did it the wrong way, your private key should never be anywhere but your local host (and in your backup)
[19:14] <makara> hellangel, i see. Let me fix this
[19:15] <Pies> hellangel: dsa wasn't insecure?
[19:15] <makara> hellangel, private key is id_dsa right? then I haven't moved it anywhere. Public is id_dsa.pub
[19:15] <hellangel> makara, yes, also like pies mentioned, an rsa key would probably be better =)
[19:16] <NotreDev> is there a log of this chat?
[19:16] <vooze> Hey.. So I have a problem with my webcam and microphone.. Please check it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372189/clevo-w740su-galago-ultrapro-webcam-and-mic-not-working
[19:19] <silidan1> AceKing: report back when it worked, or when it didnt
[19:19] <Pies> on what depends with users ubuntu shows as possible to log in? Like, why I don't see suggestion to log in as pulse, but I saw lightdm?
[19:20] <silidan1> NotreDev: what client do you use? did you activate logging?
[19:21] <NotreDev> silidan1: no logging on this client :)
[19:22] <AceKing> silidan1: OK, purged it, but still the same. Did I need to reboot?
[19:22] <silidan1> AceKing: normaly logout login should do
[19:22] <Ziber> I have the power settings of my laptop set to "when lid closes (only on battery power) -> sleep" suspend. But when I open it again, none of my programs are running. Is there a "sleep" function/
[19:22] <ztane>  5721 root      20   0 5369m 1.4g  55m S  99.1 35.0   4:23.66 packagekitd
[19:22] <AceKing> silidan1: OK, I'll be back
[19:23] <ztane> ok now seriously?!
[19:23] <ztane> whats wrong with my packagekitd
[19:23] <xcalibur> hi, i am trying to add a resolution for my telivision with xrandr. The problem is I don't know which resolution i need. Is there any tool to check the screensize of (old) televisions?
[19:24] <xcalibur> my resolution is now set to 1280 x 720 (which is too wide and too high)
[19:24] <zykotick9> xcalibur: "old" tvs typically had 800x600 resolution
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> xcalibur: pal or ntsc?
[19:25] <xcalibur> western europe, so i believe pal !?
[19:25] <ruskeejoo> fresh install of ubuntu 12.10 LTS, how do I get a terminal running?
[19:25]  * zykotick9 knows nothing of european TVs... old or new 
[19:25] <ruskeejoo> its a messed up desktop
[19:25] <pnorman> !saucy
[19:26] <xcalibur> zykotick9 its a flatscreen television, so its not THAT old ;)
[19:26] <bekks> ruskeejoo: ctrl+alt+f1 and login as user.
[19:26] <silidan1> ruskeejoo: ctrl+alt+t or ctrl+alt+f1 for the console
[19:26] <xangua> ruskeejoo: 12.10 is not LTS if that is what you think
[19:26] <ruskeejoo> THANKS
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> xcalibur: 720 x 576
[19:28] <xcalibur>  hitsujiTMO: isn that a bit small?
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> xcalibur: that is pal tho
[19:30] <ruskeejoo> is 12.04 LTS ?
[19:30] <bekks> ruskeejoo: Yes.
[19:30] <xcalibur> ok, thanks pal :)
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[19:30] <ruskeejoo> now to install a standard gnome desktop
[19:31] <bgardner> ruskeejoo: For reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:31] <makara> hellangel, I can't ssh into remote anymore. Connection closed by xx.xx.xx.xx every time i try
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> makara  make sure the ip address and/or user name is correct
[19:31] <hellangel> makara, that is very weird, did you change anything in the sshd_conf?
[19:31] <makara> hellangel, no
[19:33] <edux> i am having problems to boot a paravirtualized vm on ubuntu 13.10 using blktap driver
[19:33] <hellangel> makara, try the "-v" parameter with ssh when connecting
[19:33] <edux> it just crashes
[19:33] <edux> any idea?
[19:33] <makara> hellangel, i killed ssh-agent and tried again. same thing. I'm guessing there's something on hostmonster side that doesn't like me creating holes in their hosting.
[19:35] <makara> hellangel, the line just before it closes: "Offering RSA public key: /home/makara/.ssh/id_rsa"
[19:36] <hellangel> makara, offering RSA public key and next line is connection closed?
[19:36] <NotreDev> when i have two interfaces active (one is a local interface, the other is a public interface), i'm unable to ping google. if i disconnect my local interface (eth1) then i can reach the outside world. here is my config: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6372319/
[19:36] <makara> hellangel, yes. (there's no ssh-agent anymore)
[19:36] <kriskropd> does anyone here know how to install audio drivers for either Intel HD Audio or ICH AC'97 in virtualbox guest instlal of ubuntu 13.10 minimal/server?
[19:37] <makara> hellangel, I left the dsa public/private key combo on the server
[19:37] <hellangel> makara, login to your root localy and try to connect again
[19:37] <hellangel> again, the private key should NOT be on the server.
[19:38] <bgardner> NotreDev: Can you ping by IP when both are up?
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> NotreDev: can you post your /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <makara> hellangel, there was always a public/private key on the server. I didn't create it
[19:38] <gvo> NotreDev: wonder what his routing looks like.
[19:39] <AceKing> silidan1: I ended up rebooting, and still same problem with sound card
[19:39] <silidan1> AceKing: so did you reinstall ubunTU?
[19:39] <makara> hellangel, are you saying I can just delete everything in the .ssh folder on the server side?
[19:39] <bgardner> NotreDev: Might also post output of route -n
[19:39] <silidan1> AceKing: http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards
[19:39] <hellangel> makara, no, im saying "dont share your personal private key"
[19:39] <AceKing> silidan1: Thank you
[19:39] <silidan1> AceKing: hope it helps you
[19:39] <NotreDev> this is my /etc/network/interfaces file http://paste.ubuntu.com/6372358/
[19:40] <AceKing> silidan1: I appreciate your help today
[19:40] <liquidee> hello. I know it's not make support channel but maybe someone could take a look at my simple makefile and help me figure out how to solve the problem? http://pastebin.com/Y7k6AbD1
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> NotreDev: remove the gateway from eth1  .... you cant have 2 default gateways
[19:40] <NotreDev> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
[19:40] <silidan1> AceKing: well once you get alsa running you have a pretty good idea about it.. unless of course it keeps working, like for me... then you will forget how you have done it :D
[19:41] <hellangel> to set up:  a) create your own private and public key group and have it in your ~/.ssh folder, b) connect to remote host, c) create a .ssh folder in the user you want to connect as if it does not exist, d) create a file authorized_keys within that .ssh folder and add your public key to that, e) make sure group and others dont have any permissions to your .ssh folder (same is for your local machine)
[19:41] <hellangel> f) enjoy your working ssh :)
[19:41] <makara> hellangel, ok: personal private key = "id_rsa"
[19:41] <makara> hellangel, I'm sorted
[19:41] <makara> hellangel, the key wasn't on a single line
[19:41] <makara> thankx
[19:42] <hellangel> makara, youre welcome
[19:42] <makara> awesomeness!!
[19:43] <silidan1> liquidee: try #gcc channel
[19:44] <silidan1> liquidee: beside who wrote that makefile?
[19:44] <liquidee> silidan1: i wrote that
[19:44] <AceKing> silidan1: That happens to me all the time. I get something to work, and then I forgot how I did it. LOL
[19:45] <liquidee> silidan1: based on some stuff on inet ofc
[19:45] <sam113101> how can I increase the speed of my mouse pointer?
[19:45] <deezed> sam113101: mouse settings should work
[19:45] <hitsujiTMO> sam113101: have a look in: system settings -> mouse and touchpad
[19:47] <vacho> guys, I have two similar installs of ubuntu on linode (same datacenter), one is 10.04 and the other one is 12.04 ... 12.04 runs way slower than 10.04..why is this?
[19:47] <silidan1> liquidee: try the make manual on gcc it should give you a better idea...  im no expert for makefiles... but mine never looked like yours... i normaly end up with a variable to hold my .o files which i generate from a variable which lists my .c files, the inlcude directorys i add with -I switch for compiler, and the linker gets the pre build libs...
[19:47] <deezed> vacho: which kernel are you using in 12.04?
[19:47] <MindUser26886> !list
[19:47] <vacho> deezed: whatever is default on linod?
[19:48] <vacho> deezed: how can I find otu?
[19:48] <vacho> deezed: I am using it for a web server, sites run so much smoother on 10.04
[19:48] <silidan1> liquidee: but really /join #gcc they can be of more help there...
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> vacho: uname -r
[19:48] <dmsa> what do I need to install in order to have #include <net/ieee80211_radiotap.h>  ?
[19:48] <deezed> vacho: uname -a
[19:49] <deezed> vacho: lol, r should work as well, is more specific
[19:49] <silidan1> dmsa: i dont know, you have to google to which lib or something this include belongs
[19:49] <liquidee> silidan1: thanks :p
[19:49] <vacho> 3.11.6-x86_64-linode35 | DT 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:50] <dmsa> I google, some other people also have the same problem, but nobody wrote any answer
[19:50] <dmsa> googled
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: thats in kernel headers i do believe
[19:50] <silidan1> dmsa: my first google hit indicates somehtin like linux/blabla which is a strong suggestion that you need your linux headers installed
[19:51] <vacho> deezed: 3.11.6-x86_64-linode35 | DT 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:51] <silidan1> dmsa: or what hitsujiTMO said :D
[19:51] <dmsa> I already have kernel headers installed, when I use locate, it shows on "/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-32/include/net/ieee80211_radiotap.h"
[19:51] <sam113101> deezed: hitsujiTMO: I can only change the double-click speed
[19:51] <Hansford> Hey can someone help me....does Grub have a line for cd roms? I lose my CD Drives after Grub is run and I am new to ubuntu
[19:51] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: if you have kernel headers installed (which you already should) then it because its targeting a much older version of the kernel
[19:52] <dgarstang3> Is there a way in the shell to return 0/1 if a directory is owned by a user?
[19:52] <deezed> Hansford: no, you have to do it in bios config
[19:52] <silidan1> dmsa: try linux-headers-generic
[19:52] <dmsa> I use the default kernel that comes with ubuntu 13
[19:52] <bekks> dgarstang3: yes, "man test" :)
[19:52] <dmsa> 3.8
[19:52] <silidan1> dmsa: the kernel headers you have to install yourself
[19:52] <deezed> vacho: you can try to install a new kernel in synaptics, and see how it goes
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: what are you trying to install?
[19:52] <dgarstang3> bekks: test takes -O, but it has to be run as that user, and since this is a system user without a shell, I don't think that will work
[19:52] <vacho> deezed: hmm
[19:53] <silidan1> dmsa: build-essentials are also a good idea
[19:53] <Hansford> ok deezed...at boot up lights comes on then after logging on I cant do nothing with them
[19:53] <deezed> vacho: the point is, there are some kernels that are faster than others, depending the computer u are using
[19:53] <dmsa> I also did build*essentials
[19:53] <bekks> dgarstang3: you can run the test as every user you like.
[19:53] <dmsa> I Want to have #include <net/ieee80211_radiotap.h>, the header is on /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-32/include/net/ieee80211_radiotap.h
[19:53] <dmsa> but include does not show the header
[19:54] <dgarstang3> bekks: "FILE exists and is owned by the effective user ID" .. I can't run the test command as that user
[19:54] <deezed> Hansford: I dont think so. I'm not sure if I understood what you just said, but, the point is to access your bios config as soon as you boot your pc, before any login screen
[19:54] <silidan1> dmsa: why should it?
[19:54] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: what are you trying to build?
[19:54] <dmsa> I am trying to build a code that use radiotap on libpcap
[19:55] <alkamid> Hi. In 13.10, when I open bluetooth manager and switch the button to "ON", it switches back immediately to "OFF". I found a similar case here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153384/trouble-turning-on-bluetooth-in-12-04 but "sudo hciconfig hci0 reset" doesn't work for me (it says "Can't get device info: No such device")
[19:55] <bekks> dgarstang3: then you have to write a shell function that evaluates the user of a file and returns 0/1.
[19:55] <silidan1> dmsa: what you refer to maybe more like code completion...
[19:56] <silidan1> dmsa: are your headers in the system include path?
[19:56] <xangua> alkamid: does this happened after a major Upgrade¿
[19:56] <deezed> vacho: I use debian, and different kernels of ubuntu for example. One of those is low latency, other is real time, and another one is generic. After all they are truly different in speed, and usage.
[19:57] <deezed> sam113101: did you figure it outm?
[19:57] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: whats giving you the error the compiler or the linker?
[19:57] <Hansford> deezed  Bio is searching both cd for boot up....but after installing ubuntu studio I cant even open them,  pressed the buttons but nothing
[19:57] <dmsa> silidan1, it is on /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-32/include/net/ieee80211_radiotap.h how can I include the kernel header's include to the system's include path?
[19:57] <alkamid> xangua, no. It worked yesterday, it doesn't today. I might have updated a few packages last night though -- I'll check what they were
[19:57] <silidan1> dmsa: there should be an environment variable i guess...
[19:58] <deezed> Hansford: ok, but are you sure the order is right? I mean, cd and pen before the hd?
[19:58] <dmsa> hitsujiTMO, I get this error if I type "gcc test.c -o test", the output test.c:4:36: fatal error: net/ieee80211_radiotap.h: No such file or directory
[19:58] <Hansford> took both out and double checked the master and slave...
[19:58] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: try "#include <ieee80211_radiotap.h>" instead
[19:58] <silidan1> dmsa: try printenv
[19:59] <dmsa> it outputs the same
[19:59] <alkamid> xangua, none of the updates seems to be bluetooth-related
[19:59] <kutchbhi> quick question: which version of ubuntu do I need grab if I want to install ubuntu WITHOUT it touching my mbr ?
[19:59] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: add -l/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-32/include   to compiler
[20:00] <dmsa> hitsujitmo I tried that one as well, but I guess I need to pass the library's name as well, I dont know the name
[20:00] <alkamid> I have bluetooth disabled by default on startup (echo disable > /proc/acpi/ibm/bluetooth)
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: thats at linker level not comiler
[20:00] <dmsa> the code on http://www.opennet.ru/man.shtml?topic=ieee80211_radiotap&category=9&russian=1 has already #include <net/ieee80211_radiotap.h>
[20:01] <silidan1> dmsa: only the linker needs the librarys name, the compiler gets a long with the header
[20:01] <sam113101> deezed: nope
[20:01] <deezed> sam113101: ok, so are you using unity, right?
[20:01] <sam113101> deezed: yes
[20:01] <silidan1> dmsa: you should listen to hitsujiTMO hes faster today :D
[20:01] <dmsa> :)
[20:01] <designbybeck> sorry hitsujiTMO  faculty came in to chat. If you are still there here is the history.log: http://pasteall.org/47078
[20:02] <deezed> sam113101: and if you go to advanced settings of your mouse, you cant see anything like pointer acceleration?
[20:02] <minimec_> kutchbhi: doesn't matter if you use a virtual machine like vmware. Otherwise there is the 'wubi'-option in 12.04.
[20:02] <ikonia> w/window 14
[20:02] <ikonia> oop/window 14
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: you do know your example is for a different operating system right?
[20:02] <deezed> ikonia: what?
[20:02] <alkamid> Oh, and "sudo service blueetoth start" gives me "start: Job is already running: bluetooth"
[20:03] <deezed> alkamid: has it already worked before?
[20:03] <dmsa> hitsujiTMO, yeah I know it is freebsd, but http://www.radiotap.org/ says it supports linux as well
[20:03] <alkamid> deezed, yes, no problems before today
[20:03] <dmsa> but they did not mention how to include or link the library :
[20:04] <deezed> alkamid: I know is a stupid question, but did you try to killall it now, and reboot?
[20:05] <deezed> alkamid: I mean, "kill" it
[20:05] <alkamid> deezed, er... I know this might help, but I am reluctant to solve such issues by rebooting (;
[20:05] <alkamid> I'd rather find out what's wrong
[20:05] <silidan1> dmsa: i would suggest to you too you try #gcc
[20:06] <alkamid> if it helps, rfkill list all shows "Soft blocked: yes"
[20:06] <sam113101> deezed: http://i.imgur.com/Z44svhC.png
[20:06] <deezed> alkamid: I also like to do this.. so did you figure out something in logs?
[20:06] <dmsa> I am trying my chance on linux-wireless, but I feel like I am the only one in the world who tries to use radiotap
[20:06] <Sanga> /quit
[20:07] <silidan1> dmsa: your problem is more a general hot to build source files problem than actually a radiotap problem
[20:07] <delinquentme> so I want to run if [ -a "$which rvm" ]; then   and get a TRUE if the path exists ... and FALSE if its empty ... the -a isn't doing this
[20:07] <delinquentme> what am i missing?
[20:08] <minimec_> kutchbhi: You could also install a full version and use the MBR of a USB stick as place for the Ubuntu grub boot manager. You would then have to choose the USB stick as boot device in the BIOS options.
[20:09] <silidan1> dmsa: you need to understand what a compiler does and needs and what a linker does and needs
[20:09] <vooze> Hey I can't seem to get the internal microphone working.. I can see it in sound options like this: http://imgur.com/CKcNLzx I have tried in both Audacity and Skype... Am I missing somthing?
[20:09] <mads-> Hi. with tail or head or something similar, how do I get all the lines of a file but the first 10?
[20:09] <Cepi> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[20:10] <deezed> sam113101: what about mouse tweak?
[20:10] <Cepi> skype problems hot to fix this
[20:10] <Cepi> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[20:10] <alkamid> deezed, from dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6372488/ (when I click the on/off button in bluetooth manager)
[20:10] <sam113101> where's that?
[20:10] <deezed> sam113101: can I confess something to you? Thats one of the huge list of why I actually prefers kde than unity........
[20:11] <Jpmh> i have a system that had windoze on it - i have run a full disk analysis, every sector, all good.  When i try to install ubuntu I get the message: can nit create ext4 fs on /dev/sad1 - what is the issue?
[20:11] <Cepi> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[20:11] <sam113101> not sure if you can't change the pointer speed, or it's just that it's not available currently with the specific mouse I have
[20:12] <sam113101> anyway, something happened, I was using my mouse and it kind of slowed down, I don't know why
[20:12] <Cepi> can some come on pvt with me i have problem with skype
[20:12] <hitsujiTMO> dmsa: i sugguest you learn how to build kernel modules before learning how to use radiotap
[20:12] <sam113101> I'm going to reboot and it's probably going to be back to normal
[20:12] <sam113101> I have that kind of bug
[20:13] <mads-> Hi. with tail or head or something similar, how do I get all the lines of a file but the first 10? - just got a netsplit, so didn't see if anyone answered
[20:13] <deezed> sam113101: there is this bug reported if you google it
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: can you install pastebinit: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:14] <sam113101> brb
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> designbybeck: then: pastebinit /mnt/sda6/var/log/apt/history.log                    can you paste the generated link here
[20:14] <deezed> alkamid: I know none of your updates are actually related to bluetooth. But one of them can changed one config file that could get conflit with bluetooth
[20:15] <Cepi> deezed can u help me
[20:15] <deezed> Cepi: whats the problem?
[20:15] <Cepi> skype
[20:15] <Cepi> wont satart
[20:15] <Cepi> start*
[20:15] <silidan1> dmsa: why did you not ask a single question in #gcc?
[20:15] <Cepi> ok
[20:15] <alkamid> deezed, ok, I guess I may as well reboot. Let's give it another chance - if it doesn't work, then I'll worry. Thanks for trying to help
[20:16] <Cepi> skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[20:16] <sam113101> it's still slow ;_;
[20:16] <dmsa> silidan1 it requires registration to be able to write on that channel
[20:16] <deezed> Cepi: has it already worked before?
[20:17] <Cepi> yes
[20:17] <silidan1> Cepi: looks like you use a 32bit skype, try installing the ia 32 libs and the 32bit gl libs from nvidia
[20:17] <berni_> could anybody help me with partitioning of ubuntu?
[20:17] <Nok> Hi all, I have a desktop with a nvidia 9800GT. I installed yesterday xubuntu 13.10. After the fresh installation, i go to additional driver to install propriatary driver (I want to play steam game for linux) It says no driver available. Sorry for my english.
[20:17] <silidan1> dmsa: it requires taht you set up an account on freenode... so you have a username and password...
[20:17] <Cepi> ok thx il try
[20:18] <deezed> Cepi: but your os is 64 right?
[20:18] <Cepi> yes is 64
[20:18] <deezed> berni_: what exactly do you want to know?
[20:18] <deezed> Cepi: so you could open synaptics and see all the skype packages you are actually using
[20:18] <Cepi> deezed: yea is 64, he work few weeks
[20:19] <deezed> Cepi: then, try to reinstall it
[20:19] <Cepi> deezed: al try now
[20:19] <deezed> Cepi: but first of all, I know its a stupid thing, but try to kill skype, and reboot your pc
[20:19] <deezed> Cepi: and see what's going on
[20:20] <alkamid> deezed, reboot didn't help with bluetooth... what a pity
[20:20] <silidan1> dmsa: if you want to solve your problem on your own http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/index.html
[20:20] <deezed> alkamid: wow, so let me ask again, did you update your system meanwhile?
[20:20] <minimec> Nok: It is possible that ubuntu doesn't ship a driver for your card anymore. Look here http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[20:20] <Cepi> deezed: i cant find in processe him
[20:21] <deezed> Cepi: did you try pstree?
[20:21] <silidan1> liquidee: just in case you didnt find it yet: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/index.html
[20:22] <Cepi> deezed i didn try
[20:22] <Guest90716> I've signed up for a free ubuntu vps, and I'm trying to log into it via ssh
[20:22] <rlw96> why wont my lego nxt load to ubuntu
[20:22] <Guest90716> I'm using ubuntu locally, btw
[20:23] <Guest90716> however, I'm a little confused
[20:23] <Guest90716> I need to have a domain assosiated with the vps it seems?
[20:23] <alkamid> deezed, yes I did. Here is the list of updates: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6372543/
[20:23] <Guest90716> why is this? I would have thought I would need would be the ip of the vps
[20:23] <Nok> minimec : that is what i though at first so I did find the page you just linked. Thing is, I was on the xubuntu desktop. I did the installation like they say on that page. Upon reboot, i get to a desktop with no more icon on it no menu... Well there is a right click menu and that's it. When i open a terminal, nvidia driver are loaded. But the desktop is not really working... I got confused and removed the nvidia driver. rebooted to load back nouveau driver an
[20:23] <Nok> d I was back on the real desktop. Again sorry for my english
[20:24] <deezed> alkamid: so you are using gnome?
[20:24] <alkamid> deezed, unity
[20:26] <minimec> Nok: If you start with a clean /home/user directory. Maybe some config files are not compatible? I would test that.
[20:27] <Nok> minimec : I did a fresh install of xubuntu (clean /home/) first thing i did after the first boot was to install the driver like they say on the page you linked
[20:27] <deezed> alkamid: ok, I'm actually not sure what it can be...
[20:27] <alkamid> deezed, guess what: I just typed my wireless on/off combination on the keyboard (fn+f5), my wireless and bluetooth restarted and... voila, it works now
[20:27] <Cepi> deezed skype isnt start in proces
[20:27] <deezed> alkamid: its really strange
[20:27] <deezed> alkamid: hahaha good!!
[20:28] <silidan1> Nok: it is recommended to purge the nuveau driver before installing the  nvidia driver
[20:28] <deezed> Cepi: ok, so just try to kill it with killall skype
[20:28] <Cepi> deezed: in synaptic have skype:i386
[20:28] <deezed> Cepi: if its not running at all, ok
[20:28] <deezed> Cepi: this is the 32bit install
[20:28] <Nok> silidan1: really?! Would you happen to have a page that talk about it. I was not aware of that. I though installing nvidia driver would just add a blacklist option for the nouveau driver
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> silidan1: no need to purge, if anything just blacklist so there's a fallback
[20:29] <deezed> Cepi: try to uninstall it, then go to skype web page and download and install the 64bit one
[20:29] <alkamid> deezed, but it would be nice if I knew how to do this without going offline
[20:29] <alkamid> i.e. do the same thing only for bluetooth
[20:29] <Cepi> deezed: ok thx il try
[20:29] <minimec> Nok: Do you have 'composite' enabled on your window manager? Maybe that is the problem?
[20:29] <deezed> ok!!
[20:30] <silidan1> Nok, hitsujiTMO well i had problems once with nouveau and nvidia driverinstallation too, and deinstalling nuveau helped me, so i would recommend it
[20:30] <vooze> Hey I can't seem to get the internal microphone working.. I can see it in sound options like this: http://imgur.com/CKcNLzx I have tried in both Audacity and Skype... Am I missing somthing?
[20:30] <alkamid> deezed, do you know how to check what this key combination actually sends to the system?
[20:30] <deezed> alkamid: maybe you could bug report it, and they will probably fix it for the next update
[20:30] <deezed> alkamid: try lspci after doing that to check the logs
[20:31] <deezed> alkamid: you can also write an executable script, to do all this at once
[20:31] <Nok> silidan1, hitsujiTMO : I will try first manualy blacklisting it and then if it still does not work I will purge it. Silidan1: was your problem that you had a wierd desktop after the installation of nvidia driver and a reboot?
[20:32] <deezed> alkamid: I have to go! good luck though
[20:32] <alkamid> thanks deezed
[20:33] <silidan1> Nok: yes, that happens if it fails to load the driver...
[20:33] <deezed> alkamid: and writing a script is also a nice thing to learn about linux and stuff
[20:33] <deezed> bye
[20:33] <silidan1> ok, im out now bb
[20:33] <Nok> silidan1: many thanks i will try that out ! :D
[20:34] <berni_> could anybody help me which partitioning of ubuntu?
[20:34] <Nok> Just curious, for gaming under linux, would you say it is better to install 32bit as all the game use 32bits library? Or would you still install 64bits plus the 32bits library?
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> berni_: what exactly is the problem? can you not just leave the installer do the partitioning for you?
[20:38] <tripelb> 12.04 -- so update couldnt download all. so i said try one. it said already downloaded, will install. Question if already downloaded hiw come it disnt already install. Help me oit on this one. There must be other files that got downloaded and not installed. This is linux amd not ttansparent? What do I need to learn to get past this fud?
[20:39] <ovnicraft> hi i hava problems with video botting a live cd, what arg pass to kernel to load a generic driver? macbook pro as device
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: can you explain better?    you tried running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it didn't update? can you also pastebin the error?
[20:43] <nAn00k> does ld put symbols in the output by default?
[20:43] <nAn00k> anyone know?
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> nok: 64bit, some games are compiled for 64bit
[20:50] <berni_> could anybody help me with ubuntu installation?
[20:51] <k1l> !details | berni_
[20:55] <TomAstro> Hello folks...  Is there any up to date information for setting up 5.1 surround sound in 13.10?   All I can find is older posts.  I'm having issues with not seeing Digital 5.1 in Pulse or Alsa.  Standard sounds work and only Stereo.
[20:55] <Nok> hitsujiTMO: so going 64bit and then installing ia32-libs should be more then enough?
[20:55] <chaotix> hello..  at ubuntu.com, i am trying to download a 64 bit ubuntu 13.10 iso, but i keep getting a pop up to download something called uplayer instead
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> nok: dont install ia32-libs. if libs are needed let steam install them
[20:56] <hitsujiTMO> nok: or whatever game you are playing
[20:56] <Nok> hitsujiTMO: Ok thanks. Sounds good I will try it that way :D
  are you on the proper download link?     http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[20:58] <chaotix> TomAstro, yeah...  nvm i got it with chrome...  i only was getting the popup in firefox
[20:59] <TomAstro> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[21:00] <TomAstro> That is a direct link to the desktop Iso 13.10 / 64bit
[21:00] <TomAstro> Actually use this one...   http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=64&release=latest
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> TomAstro: fyi: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/ would be a better link
[21:05] <Guest90716> How do I make a user an admin?
[21:05] <Rory> !sudo | Guest90716
[21:05] <Guest90716> adduser mrfoobar admin
[21:05] <TomAstro> Anyone on my Sound issue for a updated link for setup for 13.10??
[21:06] <Guest90716> ubottu very fast off the keyboard!
[21:06] <Guest90716> oh
[21:06] <Guest90716> :(
[21:06] <Guest90716> How do I make a user an admin? adduser mrfoobar admin
[21:06] <Guest90716> the group admin doesn't exist apparently
[21:07] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: running gui. error was break in continuity of wifi signal. My wifi is fron phone only. And I cann ot copy from dialog box IIR. AND since I need SASL for Freenode irc amd there are no clients or scripts that work for linux (Have asked here Many Times about this) I could not pastebon even if I could copy since this irx andchat is on my phone. -- poor in the USA. alas.           i
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: add them to the sudo group
[21:07] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: adduser mrfoobar sudo
[21:07] <Guest90716> is that right?
[21:08] <Rory> Guest90716: What do you mean by "make a user an admin" what would you like them to be able to do, that they can't currently do?
[21:08] <creek> Hai all ubuntu users!
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: most linux clients work with sasl: hexchat for instance.
[21:08] <Guest90716> Rory: fair point, simply allow them to run sudo commands
[21:08] <Guest90716> so it makes sense adding them to the sudo group
[21:09]  * creek is lurking...
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: i still don't understand what the exact problem is tho? can you try: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: is there any error with that?
   Try this page...  https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/user-management.html
[21:10] <DrGrov> What might be a good video editor for all most common files, especially 720p and 1080p?
[21:10] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: most? haha i have tried many. i can try that but of i have to compile and link, make?, that is beyond me.
[21:11] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: i will use the twrminal commanda
[21:11] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: you can get it from a ppa. https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[21:12] <FuqUmist> is there a ubuntu dictionary app where i can add my own dictionary database, most of the stock dictionaries for ubuntu are not good
[21:12] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: i will use the terminal commands. i will try the hit--- irc client. s
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: when you have created a user. to add them to the sudo group use: sudo usermod -aG sudo mrfoobar            make user you do -aG    exactly like that not -G not -ag    -aG
[21:15] <TomAstro> Who ever was looking for a Video editor.... OpenShot, Cinelarra, Avidemux, Kdenlive, Kino, LiVES and even Blender.  Check this info out http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/top5-linux-video-editing-system-software/
[21:15] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: i have l/4 inch of irc scroll when I type so I miss what you type while I type. i will try the client you mentioned. (oh and i cannot copy from backscroll. android is crippled.)           chars i cant get to-->el
[21:18] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: re can i get it from a ppa? i have to look up whay a ppa is. if i had irc on ubuntu (with SASL) life would be muxh easier so i want to follow your lead in that after soing thw apt-commands before they roll iff the backscroll.
[21:19] <hitsujiTMO> tripelb: run these commands: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6372815/
[21:20] <teratoma> can i get this android device to be mountable in ubuntu ? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5c31922732282a609bc8
[21:20] <TomAstro> <Dr Grove>  Did you get my info for the video editors?
[21:22] <AJH101> Hi I have a fresh install of 13.10 complete with the stock wallpaper. How do I change the login screen from the rather naff blue please?
[21:23] <TomAstro> Hang on AJ   I think I have that bookmarked
  are you looking for a theme or are you looking at the dotted log in/out screen?
[21:24] <AJH101> the login screen
[21:24] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: this may drop.me here when i turn on the horspot. will return
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> np
[21:25] <TomAstro> Hang on  PM me so I don't lose you in the text here
[21:25] <AJH101> TomAstro: the login screen :-)
[21:26] <Guest90716> How can I block root access on my VPS? I've edited PermitRootLogin no
  Just PMed you
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> AJH101: gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter background '/foo/wallpaper.png'
[21:26] <Guest90716> * I've edited nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[21:26] <Guest90716> and change PermitRootLogin no
[21:27] <Guest90716> but root@<ip> still gets in
[21:27] <Guest90716> do I need to reboot the vps?
[21:27] <teratoma> Guest90716: sounds great.  did you service restart sshd
[21:27] <bekks> Guest90716: No.
[21:27] <teratoma> Guest90716: sounds great.  did you: service restart sshd
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: have you created a sudo user and tested to make sure it works?
[21:27] <Tinybird> Guest90716: restart sshd
[21:27] <bekks> Guest90716: You need to restart sshd and you need to make sure that root cannot use a public key.
[21:27] <Guest90716> haah excellent point hitsujiTMO. I have tested twice :)
[21:28] <Guest90716> okay service restart ssh thanks guys
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: in the sudo account use: sudo passwd -l root
[21:28] <Guest90716> what will that do?
[21:28] <Guest90716> change the password to root?
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: that will expire the root account, the way its intended in ubuntu by default
[21:29] <bekks> Guest90716: It will lock the root account. You will have to check wether "sudo -i" works for a user before locking the root account.
[21:29] <teratoma> Guest90716: you changed the configuration file for sshd.  reloading or restarting sshd will make it read in the new sshd config file
[21:29] <Guest90716> okay, service restart ssh I'll do that
[21:29] <Guest90716> bekks: I can run sudo commands as other users as I've added them to the sudo group. Is that what you mean?
[21:29] <bekks> Guest90716: First, ensure that you have a user capable of sudo -i for gaining root privileges.
[21:30] <bekks> Guest90716: Double check it, since you may lock out yourself.
[21:30] <creek> I saw this movie last week about googel...the intern.. where they ask "Why not change to emacs as default editor in ubuntu?"
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> creek  #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | creek this is a support channel, not a discussion channel. you can ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux
[21:32] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin lovers
[21:32] <Guest90716> bekks: okay
[21:32] <Guest90716> :)
[21:33] <TauNeutrino> tomorrow I'm going to give presentation with some kind of "projector"(beamer), is there any good tool you can recomend for me to switch between the screens fast and so on?
[21:33] <creek> haha sorry, last time I was here was 2006
[21:33] <TauNeutrino> a *
[21:34] <Guest90716> bekks: I ran sudo -i as a user and it moved me into the root user. Is that what should happen?
[21:34] <bekks> Guest90716: yes.
[21:34] <Guest90716> cool.
[21:34] <Guest90716> I'll service restart ssh
[21:34] <creek> TauNeutrino: xinerama kan do that
[21:35] <TauNeutrino> what?
[21:35] <TauNeutrino> ah ok
[21:35] <k1l> TauNeutrino: use xrandr. or the tool that you driver manufacturer provides
[21:35] <TauNeutrino> driver?
[21:36] <TauNeutrino> Do I need a driver for a projector? like vga
[21:36] <NotreDev> i'm deploying a server on a client site. the only constraint is that connections may only be established internally. how can i still get external DB access?
[21:36] <creek> TauNeutrino: I think he ment nvidia or ati
[21:36] <k1l> TauNeutrino: video-driver
[21:36] <TauNeutrino> I'm using a foreign projector
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: i suggest testing the projector well before the presentation
[21:36] <TauNeutrino> uaagh
[21:36] <TauNeutrino> :(
[21:37] <k1l> TauNeutrino: as explained days ago. the projector doesnt matter, when its vga
[21:37] <Guest90716> hold on..will I be able to sudo stop ssh
[21:37] <Guest90716> sudo start ssh
[21:37] <Guest90716> remotely?
[21:37] <TauNeutrino> yees that's what I thought
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: by the default it should just be a mirror of what you see on your screen
[21:37] <bekks> Guest90716: No.
[21:37] <Guest90716> bekks: Can I stop and start ssh remotely via ssh? seems like a catch 22 :)
[21:37] <TauNeutrino> so it should not be a problem right?
[21:37] <TauNeutrino> jop
[21:37] <k1l> TauNeutrino: just use the tool in system settings.
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: NO!
[21:37] <bekks> Guest90716: You will have to issue "service restart ssh", in a screen session.
[21:38] <TauNeutrino> hm , well ok
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: if you sudo stop ssh, the only way you'll be able to get back in is by remotely restarting the vps
[21:38] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO I asked!
[21:38] <Guest90716> I know that's why I was thinking :L
[21:38] <teratoma> screen session wont help if hes really screwed things up
[21:38] <Guest90716> but thanks for warning me
[21:38] <tripelb> hitsujiTMO: update gaing well. terminal ftw. bbl
[21:39] <Guest90716> restart is an unrecognized service?
[21:40] <k1l> Guest90716: please read exactly what is written here. you were given the right command quite often now.
[21:40] <TauNeutrino> maybe I scarifice some goat tonight that everything will work
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: you never gave the name of the service ... sudo service ssh restart
[21:41] <Guest90716> k1l: service restart ssh
[21:41] <Guest90716> oh
[21:41] <Guest90716> okay thanks
[21:41] <Guest90716> sorry x)
[21:41] <k1l> Guest90716: yes, that is the wrong command
[21:42] <Guest90716> awesome permission denied for root, thanks guys!
[21:43] <valencij_> hello everybody =)
[21:43] <TauNeutrino> ok I'm at the university at 9 am which is like 15 pm in the US, presentation is at ca. 11 am, so I can test it, if nothing works, I'll ask here for help :)
[21:44] <xangua> 15pm¿ o_O
[21:44] <TauNeutrino> ;D I mean 3 pm
[21:45] <TauNeutrino> we have 24 hours ^^
[21:46] <bekks> And there are 12 hours am, and 12 hours pm. So 15pm is unclear :)
[21:46] <maheanuu> I have a new Toshiba Laptop Satellite PSKFLU-00C0058 and want to install ubuntu only on this machine.  Which version would be the best for me to install,  12.04.2 LTS or 13.xx?
[21:46] <bekks> maheanuu: 12.04.3
[21:46] <TauNeutrino> we have no am and pm
[21:46] <TauNeutrino> just 0-24
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> 0 is actually called 24 :)
[21:47] <maheanuu> bekks,  Can you give me some reasons so I can make a educated decision please
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> 23 o clock -> 0 o clock, or 24 o clock, the 1,2,3,4 ect
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> the=tehn
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> then
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> lo
[21:47] <TauNeutrino> l
[21:47] <FloodBot1> TauNeutrino: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:47] <bekks> TauNeutrino: Stop the OT finally.
[21:48] <TauNeutrino> ok sry guys
[21:49] <bekks> maheanuu: The fact that you are asking implies that it will be quite a lot of work (learning, looking, trying, etc.) for you to update to a new release every 6 months. So I am suggesting to use the LTS version, which has support until 2017.
[21:50] <TauNeutrino> byebye
[21:51] <maheanuu> bekks, Ok, thank you very much for your succinctness.  I was wondering why, and truly I do not need to be updating software every month or so.   I didn't realize that there was a 12.04.3 out there and will download it...   Thanks much
[21:52] <TomAstro> Can anyone point me to a updated link for 13.10  5.1 surround sound setup  13.04 may work.  I only find real old links for Alsa and Pulse
[21:52] <Rory> TomAstro: 13.10 uses Pulse
[21:52] <tripelb2> hitsujiTMO, Bingo. On with hexchat. TY very much. Everything updated wonderfully. You have solved problems for me that no one else responded to in a way that helped me. Double Bingo to you.
[21:52] <Rory> !cookie | hitsujiTMO
[21:52] <hitsujiTMO> \o/
[21:53] <tripelb2> next, do I' need' to use wind to install picasa?  (rory you fun guy too)
[21:53] <Rory> TomAstro: This guide should be relevant http://www.webupd8.org/2009/06/enable-surround-sound-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:53] <TomAstro> Hi Rory   Yes it does but I only see Analog 5.1 and no more digital 5.1 in Pavucontrol.  12.04LTS and 13.04 was fine here now I can't get 5.1 anymore on a fresh install of 13.10
[21:54] <Rory> tripelb2: Google dropped Picasa for Linux in April 2012, so yes you do need to use Wine
[21:54] <sventon> hi all,  I can't make up my mind about what way to run ubuntu on my macbook. I want to start using Ubuntu for all my web development tasks but still have OSX installed for some tasks.
[21:54] <sventon> The alternatives I have is to dual boot, run using a WM or run fit rom a USB stick.
[21:54] <sventon> what should you do ?
[21:54] <Rory> sventon: The best way to learn it, is to install it (dual boot) and force yourself, when you come across a problem, to solve it in Ubuntu, and not give up and go back to OSX
[21:54] <tripelb2> So off I go to install skype with dpkg for deb and picasa with wine. New horizons.
[21:54] <k1l> maheanuu: the LTS version get "servicepacks" which bundeld all the updates from the meantime. its actually called "pointrelease" in ubuntu
[21:55] <TomAstro> Thanks Rory...
[21:56] <Rory> TomAstro: No need to be sarcastic please. What sound hardware or motherboard/laptop do you have?
[21:56] <sventon> Rory: yes it was what happened last time I try a few years ago : ) , I did set up a dual boot then but it was very unstable
[21:57] <Rory> TomAstro: Apologies if your thanking was sincere, but late ;)
  Is that still good for 13.10  That is dated 2009?
[21:57] <x_root> i getting display(null) after install a amd/ati driver in ubuntu 13.10
[21:57] <Rory> TomAstro: Yes, the pulseaudio config file is still the same
[21:58] <x_root> also, the display shows only the pointer
[21:58] <TomAstro> Cool beans...   Thanks again  I'll try this out
[21:58] <x_root> how can i fix this?
[22:00] <sventon> what benefits are there to run dual boot compared with WM or USB ? are WM / USB much slower or are there some other disadvantages ?
[22:00] <ianorlin> VM uses more resources
[22:01] <ianmac1> sventon,  live cd or usb environments are slower than installed systems
[22:02] <sventon> ianorlin: but for web development will it be a problem ? Is it much slower or just a bit slower ?
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: what processor do you have and how much ram?
[22:02] <ianorlin> not that expirenced with it myself
[22:05] <ianmac1> sventon, just keep in mind that you won't be able to sace your work on a live cd (closed file system) or a live usb env (unless you have a persistence area), so you'll need to save your work off-system somewhere.
[22:05] <ianmac1> s/sace/save/
[22:06] <sventon> yes, do you run a dualboot on OSX ?
[22:07] <sventon> It seems to be a real hassle to get OSX and ubuntu to play well together. I remember then I tried this out a few years ago I ended up reinstalling OSX and ditching ubuntu
[22:07] <Guest90716> so I'm trying to install rvm
[22:07] <Guest90716>  sudo \curl -L https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable --ruby=2.0.0
[22:07] <Guest90716> that gives me this error message:
[22:07] <Guest90716> Error running 'requirements_debian_update_system ruby-2.0.0-p247',
[22:07] <Guest90716> Requirements installation failed with status: 100.
[22:07] <ianmac1> sventon, no, laptop with Ubuntu 13.10, ipad 4, ipad mini, iphone 5, iphone 4S. Working on buying a Mac mini
[22:07] <Guest90716> There's an installation log..hold on
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: what version of ubuntu?
[22:09] <sventon> Guest90716: are you sure you want to use RVM ? I swift over to rbenv and that is not something i regret
[22:09] <Guest90716> the log keeps saying this over and over again: W: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/raring-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to mirror.umd.edu:http: [Mirror: http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu/]
[22:09] <ianmac1> sventon, did you see the question from hitsujiTMO ? he makes a good point
[22:10] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: 13.04
[22:10] <DrGrov> Curious to know what I should do to get DPI higher when running 1920x1080 on my 42" TV? It is FullHD compatible and turns up really nice but text etc seems so small.
[22:10] <Guest90716> sventon: I do want to use rvm...purely because most people do so there's more support
[22:10] <k1l> Guest90716: raring looses support in 3 month.
[22:11] <Guest90716> k1l: What do you mean?
[22:11] <Guest90716> People stop developing for it?
[22:12] <k1l> Guest90716: you get no updates then. no security ones and no program updates. so think on upgrading to 13.10 in that time or better stick to 12.04LTS
[22:13] <k1l> Guest90716: 12.04 got rvm in the repos, btw
[22:13] <sventon> ianmac1: unfortunately not, I logged in at 22:30 Central European time
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: non lts versions only have 9 months support. for server you're better going with 12.04
[22:13] <Guest90716> right. good advice!
[22:13] <Guest90716> thanks
[22:13] <ianmac1> sventon, hitsujiTMO> sventon: what processor do you have and how much ram?
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: what processor do you have and how much ram
[22:15] <Guest90716> Why can't I install rvm, though?
[22:15] <Guest90716> regardless of version?
[22:15] <sventon> I have an old macbook (7.1) upgraded to  8 GB ram
[22:16] <Guest90716> the logs keep saying W: Failed to fetch mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt/dists/raring-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to mirror.umd.edu:http: [Mirror: http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu/]
[22:16] <Guest90716> is my provider stopping this or something?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: from that error looks like an issue with your mirrors. can you start by running: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade       and tell us if there's any errors there
[22:17] <Guest90716> I get this error:
[22:17] <Guest90716> Err http://mirror.symnds.com/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages Unable to connect to mirror.umd.edu:http: [Mirror: http://mirror.umd.edu/ubuntu/]
[22:18] <bekks> Guest90716: Then use another mirror.
[22:18] <xangua> Guest90716: have you tried to change the mirror sources¿ either use the main or another country
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: do you know the cpu tho? that could be a big issue
[22:19] <Guest90716> /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:19] <Guest90716> sorry
[22:19] <Guest90716> hold on
[22:19] <Guest90716> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring main restricted universe multiverse
[22:19] <Guest90716> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[22:19] <Guest90716> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[22:19] <Guest90716> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt raring-security main restricted universe multiverse
[22:19] <FloodBot1> Guest90716: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:20] <Frank81> Hello my frinds little question i am running ubuntu and wanna change current user homedir
[22:20] <bekks> Guest90716: Use a pastebin please.
[22:20] <Guest90716> okay
[22:20] <Frank81> but that can't be done when i run in X since it is used then
[22:20] <Frank81> how can i close X so i get a normal shell
[22:20] <bekks> Frank81: Correct. It cant be done while the user is logged in.
[22:20] <Guest90716> sorry x)
[22:20] <vng> hey everyone, my mac laptop is next to me and I am able to do a speed test at 23.53 Mbps while my ubuntu machine can only do 1.97 Mbps download. I have a dell desktop and I am not sure what network drivers I am using. Any guides to recommend to help me debug this problem?
[22:21] <Frank81> bekks oh good your there any suggestion how i could change the home dir?
[22:21] <Guest90716> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7345202
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: a quick google suggests a 7,1 is a core 2 duo/extreme which would not be good for using as a virtual host (most likely your bios is not set to support vt-x)
[22:21] <Frank81> or is closing X realy the best way?
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: create a new user, add that user to the sudo group. log into that user. change your actual users shell.
[22:22] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: what do you mean with "cpu tho" ? My machine have a Intel Core 2 Duo processor 2.4 GHz Processor Number Of Processors:	1  Bus Speed:	1.07 GHz
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: sorry home directory not shell
[22:23] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: like always the best idea
[22:23] <bekks> Frank81: Not running X is the only way :)
[22:23] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: oh, did not see you answer, sorry
[22:23] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7345202
[22:23] <SubCool> can someone help with gespeak mbrola voices? i install everything, and the voices. .and no matter what i do, i cant get the path to stick and detect the voices.
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: highly recommend dualbooting that machine
[22:23] <Guest15334> hello, i am looking for a rolling release distro that you can install gnome 3.8
[22:24] <t4hrip> merhaba
[22:24] <t4hrip> türk varmı?
[22:24] <bekks> Guest90716: Ubuntu isnt a rolling release distro.
[22:24] <bekks> !tr | t4hrip
[22:24] <Guest15334> ok, any suggestions then?
[22:24] <k1l> Guest15334: better ask in ##linux for that topic.
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: thats a completely invalid source.list file... who is your hosting provider?
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: what country is the server in?
[22:25] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: http://www.a2hosting.com/
[22:25] <Guest90716> it's an America
[22:25] <Guest90716> *in America
[22:25] <sventon> hitsujiTMO:  I see, I did actually try to run using a WM earlier today and it was painfully slow. I thought I done something wrong during the install but maybe it is a hardware limitation then
[22:26] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: Ah..liked how cheap they were. Maybe that's why. Can I ammend this problem or will I run into more? Maybe I should switch
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: your bios prob has vt-x disabled and usually with that era of cpus prob doesn't allow you to turn it on either. but even if you had that, any virtualization you do is still gonna run slow very slow. I would suggest installing x64 dual boot for that reason
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: if they can't even get a apt mirror right then i'd say there's prob other issues with the vm. https://www.digitalocean.com/ tend to be popular with the cheap crowd. https://www.linode.com/ tend to be popular with those who want absolute stability.
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: i'll give you a valid sources.list in a sec
[22:30] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot for your input !
[22:30] <sventon> so running from a WM is not an option for me, what is your opinion about running from a USB stick ?  I like the Idea that I should be able to have a portable environment
[22:31] <norbert__> Hello guys
[22:31] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: Thanks very much for your help and advice, I have to say. But darn it! Done a bit of work with this VPS. Do you think I could ammend the sources.list file myself? I only want to run rails apps off the vps, nothing crazy
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: running form usb is a viable option. just don't know how that would work with a mac. use a decent speed usb for it, and use ext2 filesystem.
[22:33] <norbert__> I have a problem with bidirectional pipes program. It seems i don't work properyl. Namely if i don't close CHILD_WRITE pipe in the parent process it seems to work otherwise it gives the impression like there is no input pipe at all
[22:33] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, ext2, good suggestion
[22:34] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: heres a valid raring sources.list for us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373170/
[22:35] <quinnwizard> i have to say that i am absolutely loving 13.10
[22:35] <ianmac1> quinnwizard, it's quite nice, ubuntu devs rock!
[22:36] <ubuntu-help1> Hi guys, can I ask about my issue with installing with EFI?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | ubuntu-help1
[22:36] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: THankyou very very much. Do I need to reboot?
[22:36] <quinnwizard> 100% correct.  I am now officially 98% ubuntu now.  I still have one minipc running 7 for proprietary software that won't work with wine.
[22:36] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: did not know different USB sticks had different speed. I did try this as well earlier today without succeeding. Maybe I didn't use ext2 filesystem and that was a reason.  thanks again
[22:37] <disappearedng> Hey if my ubuntu can't shut down properly, what log should I look at?
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> Guest90716: no just try again: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:38] <ubuntu-help1> I've tried installing from a usb and disk after disabling secure boot in my bios and fast boot from Win8. Everytime I go 'Try Ubuntu' after booting into the installer with UEFI, there's only a black screen. I've read all the help pages and some forums, but I can't find a solution.
[22:38] <Level15> hi, all. I have KVM on a 4 network interfaces server. i want my vms to have bridged network to my lan. should i set up a single bridge with all 4 nics or 1 bridge per nic?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: cheap usb stills will have miserable read and write speeds. you can get decentones with 30mb/s read and write for relatively cheap. ext2 will reduce the wearing of the usb and one other thing you can do is set the relatime mounting option on the filesystem too
[22:39] <bekks> Level15: That depends on your requirements and the capabilities of the switch when going to use LACP.
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | ubuntu-help1 this is probably what you need
[22:40] <Level15> bekks: is it mandatory to use LACP?
[22:40] <bekks> Level15: No, it just depends on your requirements.
[22:40] <Guest90716> hitsujiTMO: You are a bit of a genius. Thanks for that, it all works now. Worrying about this VPS provider though.
[22:41] <Level15> bekks: I was kind of hoping I didn't have to. Whay do you say it depends? What are my options? I would prefer to not use LACP
[22:41] <bekks> Level15: So currently you have set up a 4-link active-active bridge?
[22:42] <Level15> yep. set up a single br0 interface with brdige_ports eht0 eth1 ... eth3
[22:42] <Level15> eth...
[22:42] <bekks> Level15: Then you are aware of the fact that your nominal link speed is still the maximum of one interface, are you?
[22:42] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, I've tried that. I get the ubuntu logo for a couple of seconds and then it just disappears again
[22:42] <Level15> bekks: yes
[22:42] <Level15> bekks: not really concerned about that
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: what graphics card do you have?
[22:43] <bekks> Level15: Then I am wondering why you are using 4 links at all :)
[22:43] <bekks> Level15: Either use a 4-link link aggregation, or just a 2-link active-standby bonding.
[22:43] <Level15> bekks: i was hoping traffic from one vm would go up one link, other vm up other link and so on
[22:43] <bekks> Level15: Thats a wrong assumption.
[22:45] <Level15> bekks: can you please explain? not sure i understand what is wrong, and how would i go about setting that 2 active -standby bonding
[22:45] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: Haswell CPU with nvidia GT740M as a dedicated GPU. In windows I can switch between them if it means anything.
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:46] <ubuntu-help1> 13.10
[22:46] <bekks> Level15: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding Mode 1 active-backup
  Any other suggestions for 5.1 sound?  still stuck with stereo?
[22:46] <siwica> I just installed ubuntu 13.10 on my lenovo having an Nvidia GeForce GT 720M. I can just boot using nomodeset, but Even after that i am just getting the Console. I am getting "Error: unable to open Display" after Running "/usr/Lib/nux/unity_support_test -p". Any hints on hoe to geht the GUI
[22:47] <bekks> Level15: Mode 4 would provide LACP.
[22:47] <Level15> bekks: from first sentence, I understand it would require LACP, yes?
[22:47] <bekks> Level15: Mode 4 only.
[22:47] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: 13.10 64-bit
[22:47] <siwica> * how to geht the GUI
[22:47] <bekks> Level15: Just ignore the first sentence, its technically wrong.
[22:48] <XMLnewbi> man I wish I knew about  git clone a long time ago
[22:48] <bekks> Level15: Only Mode 4 will provide an overall link speed of 4x interface speed, all other modes will operate on an overall speed of 1x link-speed.
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: can you try booting with acpi_osi=Linux
[22:49] <Level15> bekks: not so concerned about speed, more about availability. Can I set up a bonding interface with 1 active and three slave nics? like the first example, except with two extra nics?
[22:50] <bekks> Level15: Yes, correct.
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> siwica: what processor? haswell cpu aswell?
[22:50] <savetheinternet> http://stopnerds.org/gnu-and-stalinism/
[22:51] <arpad2> when I login as a certain user the desktop doesn't appear, only tty
[22:51] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: Tried that and acpi_osi="Linux", just goes black
[22:52] <Level15> hmm, ok, thanks. In the meantime, my predicament is the following. If I do not use the bridge interfaces but instead set each ethX to get IP from DHCP, it works fine, all IPs reply to ping. But if I set up 1 bridge per interface and tell the bridge to use dhcp, it takes forever to get an IP, and when it does, other machines can't ping the server... not sure i get what is wrong
[22:52] <Level15> any ideas, bekks?
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: what resolutions is your screen?
[22:52] <bekks> Level15: Using bonding, you cannot use DHCP.
[22:53] <Level15> bekks: that's fine, I can make them static
[22:53] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: 1920x1080
[22:53] <ferruccio> ciao
[22:53] <Level15> bekks: what do you think my current issue is? It worked fine for 6 months until today when we rtebooted the server
[22:53] <quinnwizard> what is the maximum number of displays that a single 13.10 unit can support
[22:54] <bekks> Level15: DHCP on bonded interfaces is just not supported. It may work, but its not supported.
[22:54] <Level15> bekks: yeah, but right now I am not using bonds, I am using the 4 bridges...
[22:54] <Level15> or is that unsupported, too?
[22:54] <bekks> Level15: Where did you setup the bridges?
[22:55] <bekks> Level15: Where and how?
[22:55] <Level15> /etc/network/interfaces
[22:55] <bekks> Level15: Why?
[22:55] <bekks> Level15: You dont need that for vbox vms at all.
[22:55] <Level15> hm, that's where I read I should do it on the documentation
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: try:    video=VGA-1:1920x1080-24@60 i915.i915_enable_rc6=1          failing that try: acpi=off
[22:55] <Level15> yeah, but i am using kvm, and for kvm, i do need that
[22:56] <Frank81> next more complex question
[22:56] <Frank81> i try to use geparted with one of my additional disks
[22:56] <Frank81> but it don't whants to work when i unmount the disk it cant resize it
[22:56] <bekks> Level15: I guess you are experiencing a routing issue when more than one interface is using DHCP and sets a default route.
[22:56] <Frank81> and when i mount it it cant resize it
[22:56] <Frank81> whats wrong
[22:57] <Level15> bekks: but ping also fails inside the same LAN... no routing involved there, if i  understand correctly
[22:57] <Frank81> Level15 maybe join #networking
[22:57] <k1l> Frank81: maybe other partitions are still mounted, like swap etc
[22:57] <bekks> Level15: The interfaces just dont know which interface should be used to answer.
[22:57] <Frank81> they can debug such issus well
[22:58] <Frank81> k1l nope its a ntfs partition
[22:58] <k1l> Frank81: and dont ever resize mounted partitions
[22:58] <Level15> Frank81: thanks, will try that, too
[22:58] <Frank81> and when i unmount it i can click on resize but don't apply changes all is greyed out
[22:58] <Level15> bekks: in the meantime, tomorrow I will set up the active-backup bond and see what happens
[22:58] <Frank81> when i unmount it it tells me it can't read files
[22:58] <Frank81> and so don#t resize it
[22:58] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: acpi=off worked. Is ACPI something I need?
[22:59] <Frank81> ubuntu-help1:  nope you don't need ACPI :D
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: unfortunately for a notebook yes
[23:00] <buu_> If I'm on amd64 and I have a "ELF 32-bit LSB executable", is there someway to get ldd to tell me which libraries its looking for?
[23:00] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: I'm using a notebook. If it only works without acpi should I just give up on ubuntu altogether?
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: its your power management. it depends on the cause, try installing bumblebee + you nvidia drivers first. if you still need it to boot then you'll prob need newer drivers for both the haswell gpu and nvidia gpu
[23:02] <SubCool> anyone have a better expereince with the TTS programs?
[23:02] <ubuntu-help1> hitsujiTMO: Alright, I'll try that out. Thanks so much for your help
[23:02] <SubCool> i feel like im working with Windows 95 again
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntu-help1: if that still fails, you may have to wait for trusty which will come with better support for that hardware
[23:02] <sakhr> Hi
[23:04] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: can you suggest for me a way to resize NTFS Partition without reboot?
[23:04] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: can you post a screenshot of your gparted view
[23:04] <Frank81> sure i should be able to do so :D
[23:06] <buu> So uh, how can I execute: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped ?
[23:07] <Frank81> http://www.picamatic.com/view/9794810_2013-11-07-000506_1280x1024_scrot/
[23:07] <Frank81> http://www.picamatic.com/view/9794851_2013-11-07-000635_1280x1024_scrot/
[23:07] <FloodBot1> Frank81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: It is a really huge difference in speed then comparing USB drivers, the one I bought today seems to only have 10mb/s read. Did you  misspell "decentones" ? . I can't find any drivers with that name
[23:08] <Frank81> this both sorry for the german error messages but i think your professional enought to ignore that the error only complains about ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g but ntfs-3g is installed and in trusty there is no ntfsprogs anymore
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: do you have ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs installed?
[23:09] <Frank81> only ntfs-3g
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: decentones = decent ones
[23:09] <Frank81> ntfsprogs is not in the ubuntu trusty repos
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: what brand?
[23:09] <Frank81> and got probally replaced by ntfs-3g since mounting and all works realy well
[23:09] <k1l> Frank81: trusty ist just started in development
[23:10] <k1l> Frank81: so please use ubuntus, that are actually in support
[23:10] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: hehe,  I thought you meant an brand name called "decentones"  : )
[23:11] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: when i do apt-get install ntfsprogs it tells me its not in repos but its referenzed so probally got replaced
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: hmm, its not detecting ntfs-3g and needs that to safely resize the partition.
[23:11] <k1l> Frank81: again: please use a stable ubuntu. noone knows why that error occurs in trusty
[23:11] <Frank81> ok so i probally should remove the ubuntu geparted package
[23:11] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: lol sorry. what brand did you buy?
[23:11] <Frank81> and compile my self and suppyl right ntfs-3g
[23:12] <Frank81> k1l all know why thats happen coz geparted don't detects ntfs-3g as the error says
[23:12] <Frank81> why all don't whant that i use current ubuntu
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: the guys in #ubuntu+1 would be better with trusty specific issues
[23:12] <Frank81> :D
[23:12] <Frank81> i don't think its a trusty issu
[23:13] <k1l> Frank81: there is a reason why its not labled "released"
[23:13] <k1l> !trusty | Frank81
[23:13] <Frank81> k1l i don't care i need to use it since it fixes some errors i got befor
[23:13] <Frank81> so this is the right way
[23:13] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: this one http://uk.maxell.eu/en/products/maxell-usb-venture-maxell-venture-usb-16gb-39.aspx , it was only 8 $ so it is no disaster
[23:13] <Frank81> but ok i now understood resizing will not work as easy thats ok
[23:14] <k1l> Frank81: as mentioned: #ubuntu+1 is the way to go for you, then
[23:14] <Frank81> i waited half a year to enter a password on boot via usb with the new kernel so i can wait or buy new harddisks too now
[23:19] <Frank81> other question how can i stop and get to stable after 14.04 got stable?
[23:20] <creek> Anyone know a good mail client that support functions for maillists kind of what operas does?
[23:20] <k1l> Frank81: all unstable will get stable with the updates at the day of release
[23:21] <norbert__> hello
[23:21] <norbert__> Is there anybody can help me with creating two-ways pipe that redirect standart stdin/out in c ?
[23:22] <jrib> norbert__: ##c for help with programming in C
[23:22] <sam113101> norbert__: pipes or one way only IIRC
[23:22] <sam113101> pipes are*
[23:22] <Frank81> k1l i know that i mean how can i tell apt-get to don't do distupgrades
[23:22] <Frank81> :D
[23:23] <sam113101> oh, sorry I misread your question
[23:23] <Frank81> i don't even regonized that i got to 14.04
[23:24] <creek> I got lost if anyone answerd..
[23:25] <amms> is possible to install this: "xvba-va-driver libva-glx1 libva-egl1 vainfo" with x.org driver?
[23:27] <FireBeard> 'lo
[23:27] <orangerobot> hi there. up until yesterday, i was able to enter my account directly as soon as ubuntu booted up (no login screen). However, since a few hours ago I'm being directed to a login screen and, upon trying to log into my account, I get redirected to the login screen, time and again. Funny thing is that i'm able to log into my account via CLI and then startx.. Any ideas? Seems the problem I have is a  "login loop"
[23:28] <orangerobot> any ideas?
[23:28] <amms> orangerobot: maybe
[23:28] <amms> this: http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F223501%2Fubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop&ei=ldB6UvbDH9LqkAeYvYDoCw&usg=AFQjCNFQKq9oiVlHQZiJp-7W1y3h1wrMmA&bvm=bv.55980276,d.eW0
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> orangerobot: sounds like an issue with some config in your account. can you login via terminal <ctrl>+<alt>+<f1>
[23:29] <Elhich> hello world ! ?
[23:30] <Elhich> @nya : are you a live person ?
[23:30] <FireBeard> this PC will run 24/7 but I will be shutting down the monitors myself. How can I make the pc 'sleep' without being completely inactive [I like my browser to still be active]
[23:30] <FireBeard> 12.04
[23:31] <FireBeard> what are the settings I can use?
[23:31] <Elhich> FireBeard,  what are you willing to do ? :)
[23:31] <buu> FireBeard: What exactly does an active browser do while its asleep?
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> FireBeard: there's no such sleep state, but you can user indicator-cpufreq to set your cpu to powersave mode
[23:31] <FireBeard> true
[23:31] <FireBeard> ok, were can I chose settings from?
[23:32] <FireBeard> sorry if I were vague
[23:32] <buu> FireBeard: What are you trying to accomplish?
[23:32] <FireBeard> buu: have it in s sleep state
[23:32] <FireBeard> I think
[23:32] <FireBeard> 12.04 version
[23:32] <buu> FireBeard: Then what is the browser supposed to be doing?
[23:33] <FireBeard> nothing, sorry
[23:33] <buu> oh
[23:33] <buu> Isn't there a menu option: go to sleep?
[23:33] <buu> Or hibernate.. or whatever?
[23:34] <FireBeard> I want it to hybernate by itself after a certain time of inactivity
[23:34] <FireBeard> I just can't find where I can set it to
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> FireBeard: you can set that in the power settings, but it will kill your network card too
[23:34] <FireBeard> ok
[23:35] <savetheinternet> END FREE SOFTWARE
[23:35] <FireBeard> my 'power' settings hardly have ANY choices
[23:35] <FireBeard> I used to use this all the time !! :?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> FireBeard: you should be able to say: suspend when inactive for xx minutes
[23:35] <FireBeard> I must be going nuts...
[23:36] <FireBeard> under system settings, right?
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> FireBeard: yes
[23:36] <FireBeard> I'm going nuts..
[23:36] <FireBeard> sorry
[23:36] <FireBeard> I am a moron
[23:38] <FireBeard> I've been using Ubu for 5 years, and ALL the sudden I can't even find the most basic stuff...
[23:38] <benjabean1> My unity icon for Chrome once got its title changed. I can't seem to change it back. How can I?
[23:39] <FireBeard> rename?
[23:39] <FireBeard> sorry, I'm hating Ubu right now, do not pay attention to me
[23:39] <benjabean1> how? i've tried editing /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop, but that wasn't changed
[23:39] <FireBeard> have you tried rightclicking?
[23:40] <benjabean1> yes
[23:40] <benjabean1> it even appears in the dash that way
[23:40] <FireBeard> well, I'm out
[23:40] <FireBeard> I'm just a user
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> benjabean1: sounds like a bug, unlock it from the unity launcher, close chrome, then relaunch and lock it again
[23:41] <benjabean1> i did that too
[23:42] <nilvando> Hi, galera blz
[23:42] <benjabean1> i figured it out
[23:42] <FireBeard> strange, my install seems to think this is a laptop or so
[23:42] <benjabean1> it was in my ~/.local/share/applications folder
[23:43] <FireBeard> or is the suspend option the ONLY option?
[23:43] <FireBeard> :?
[23:43] <Frank81> hi my frinds any one knows a way to visual all disk writes?
[23:43] <Frank81> i mean what file gets written where and when?
[23:44] <FireBeard> why?
[23:45] <Frank81> i need to have less diskwrites
[23:45] <FireBeard> there's loads of programs to check what files are where, and how big
[23:45] <Frank81> to speed the system up and i don't know what packages do write what
[23:45] <FireBeard> why>
[23:45] <Frank81> not where and how big
[23:45] <FireBeard> I think whatever writes the system does, it needs
[23:45] <Frank81> i need a real time history of writing to files
[23:45] <Frank81> last hour or else
[23:46] <FireBeard> *to
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: try iotop
[23:46] <Frank81> ok sure i can do find last edited filles but thats not enought
[23:46] <Frank81> iotop sounds like htop
[23:46] <Frank81> so its probally good thx a lot
[23:46] <FireBeard> I think you are asking for something impossible
[23:46] <redtriangleofdoo> Hi guys
[23:47] <Frank81> FireBeard: like hitsujiTMO sayed its not impossible to watch IN OUTPUT :D
[23:47] <FireBeard> Frank81: on the fly?
[23:47] <FireBeard> I'd like to see that
[23:47] <Frank81> ya firebeard it works nice this iotop
[23:48] <Frank81> only need to watch for option to show what he writes where
[23:48] <Frank81> but iotop shows real time what writes
[23:48] <Frank81> thats a good starting point
[23:48] <redtriangleofdoo> do any of you know how to fix the red triangle that keeps happening?
[23:48] <FireBeard> including the coordinates where it writes to>
[23:48] <redtriangleofdoo> it just started for me today
[23:48] <FireBeard> in real time?
[23:49] <bekks> iotop doesnt show realtime values... in the best case, the values are quite usable, but not realtime.
[23:49] <FireBeard> that's one fucking fast program, man
[23:49] <FireBeard> ...
[23:49] <Frank81> bekks good enought if it would show what it writes
[23:49] <sabgenton> how does apt-get use /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[23:49] <ianmac1> !language
[23:49] <Frank81> sabgenton it creats a file and then tells that dpkg is running
[23:49] <Frank81> and dels it after its runned complet
[23:49] <bekks> Frank81: Good enough to get an impression of whats going on, but not in realtime ;)
[23:50] <sabgenton> Frank81: that file always exists...
[23:50] <Frank81> bekks thats right but for my task it works realy well when it now would show what files it writes or has written to
[23:50] <Frank81> sabgenton then it writes in that file if its locked or not
[23:50] <Frank81> but thats what it is for so you don't run dpkg twice
[23:51] <nilvando> Alguem teria um modelo para criar sala de aula com ubuntu?
[23:51] <ianmac1> !es | nilvando
[23:51] <FireBeard> nilvando: prima, ik kan net zo goed nederlands gaan lullen dan, als jij denkt dat wij jouw taal zo ff begrijpen
[23:51] <sabgenton> Frank81: Is the the main idea so that an other instants of apt-get knows an install is in progress
[23:51] <FireBeard> eikel
[23:51] <amms> is allow_other a fstab allow command?
[23:51] <amms> allowed*
[23:51] <Frank81> wow
[23:52] <Frank81> the netherlands are in here
[23:52] <Frank81> :D
[23:52] <sabgenton> and therefore stops new instants?
[23:52] <FireBeard> Frank81: present !
[23:52] <bekks> sabgenton: basically, yes.
[23:52] <Frank81> i am german i cant even read that nl stuff
[23:52] <sabgenton> ok
[23:52] <Frank81> i understand ever 5th word
[23:52] <Frank81> :D
[23:52] <daftykins> Dutch is poor man's German though :(
[23:52] <FireBeard> Dutch is a Germanic language
[23:53] <Frank81> don't looks like a germanic language
[23:53] <Frank81> :D
[23:53] <Frank81> looks morelike crypto german
[23:53] <FireBeard> I need more beer...
[23:53] <sabgenton> Frank81: I don't quite understand what you where saying,  I mean theres no file lock in linux extX normally.  I'm just asking how do programs know the file is locked?
[23:54] <Frank81> sabgenton maybe coz its content
[23:54] <Frank81> simply read it
[23:54] <sabgenton> it was empty
[23:54] <bekks> sabgenton: They check for the existance of the lockfile.
[23:54] <Frank81> then maybe coz its mod?
[23:54] <sabgenton> ok I did a watch cat file
[23:54] <sabgenton> I should have tailed it I guess
[23:54] <Frank81> bekks but he told us its always there
[23:55] <Frank81> the lockfile
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> sabgenton: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_locking#In_Unix-like_systems
[23:55] <bekks> sabgenton: Then some process that created it was killed without removing it.
[23:55] <bekks> sabgenton: For your package management system, check wether some process is still running, and if noone is running, you can remove that lockfile.
[23:59] <amms> how know the permissions of a directory?