[00:17] <noaxess_mobile> hey all
[00:18] <noaxess_mobile> upgraded to 13.10 now i see login screen but can't login.. i can enter password and press enter.. after 2seconds logon screen is back
[00:19] <noaxess_mobile> have nvidia on a asus n76vz
[00:38] <noaXess> hi there
[00:39] <noaXess> my problem.. upgraded right now a machine from 13.04 to 13.10.. and now i get X.Org Segmentation fault at address 0x88
[00:45] <noaXess> back.. grrr
[00:46] <noaXess> thats what i get, if i try to login on the upgraded 13.10 machine http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373686/
[00:46] <noaXess> any elp is welcome
[00:47] <gassho> aloha
[00:56] <noaXess> hey gassho
[00:56] <noaXess> any hint about my problem?
[01:06] <ablyss> noaXess, looks like you could disable glx
[01:06] <noaXess> how to?
[01:10] <ablyss> noaXess, see http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu:Saucy  search keyword "Reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:11] <ablyss> noaXess, maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg would reset to default mesa driver until you fix the other problem
[01:11] <noaXess> i dont have any /etc/X11/xorg.conf.. so just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[01:12] <ablyss> noaXess, i would guess yes, shouldn't hurt
[01:13] <noaXess> no way :(
[01:13] <gassho> how do i download complete kubuntu 13.10 source :V
[01:14] <noaXess> i also cant get into cli with CTRL+ALT+F1
[01:14] <noaXess> ablyss: restart after reconfigure or just restart lightdm?
[01:14] <jalcine> gassho: that's a lot of code; I can tell you how to get KDE's sources
[01:14] <ablyss> noaXess, yes that's good TTY1 works.  There you can sudo service lightdm restart
[01:15] <noaXess> ablyss: i can't to to tty.. i'm on the machine from remote over ssh..
[01:15] <noaXess> thats the prob..
[01:15] <noaXess> with 13.04 all has worked fine.. and the intel grafic too...
[01:15] <gassho> 'Could not download all repository indexes'
[01:15] <noaXess> and now.. nothing.. grrr
[01:16] <gassho> how dear jalcine
[01:16] <ablyss> noaXess, just sudo service lightdm restart will suffice
[01:16] <ablyss> noaXess,  no need to reboot
[01:17] <noaXess> but no luck.. same problem, error after enter password and login
[01:17] <jalcine> gassho: using kdesrc-build; a lá apt-get
[01:17] <noaXess> ablyss: reinstall anything? xorg. intel driver?
[01:17] <ablyss> noaXess, sounds like the video card is not supported fully.  hmmm
[01:17] <noaXess> ablyss: in this machine.. also a nvidia card is integrated..
[01:18] <noaXess> but main card is the intel..
[01:18] <noaXess> nvidia is only usable with bumblebee.
[01:18] <noaXess> ablyss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373815/
[01:18] <ablyss> noaXess, perhaps switch to VGI.  turn off DVI/hdmi in bios
[01:19] <ablyss> VGA sry
[01:19] <noaXess> ??
[01:19] <noaXess> the notebook display is connected to the intel card
[01:19] <ablyss> noaXess, oh... that's true..
[01:19] <noaXess> and i can't disable hdmi in bios..
[01:20] <ablyss> noaXess, righty.. you  might need to remvoe the nvidia module
[01:20] <noaXess> ablyss: all of them http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373820/
[01:21] <noaXess> all which ar ii, right=
[01:21] <noaXess> all which ar ii, right?
[01:21] <ablyss> noaXess, i would yes
[01:23] <ablyss> noaXess, i notice you dont have nvidia-current listed
[01:23] <noaXess> yes.. it a newer one..
[01:26] <noaXess> ablyss: still no luck ... uaaaa
[01:26] <noaXess> i think it a intel driver problem.. hm..
[01:28] <ablyss> noaXess, maybe this will help http://askubuntu.com/questions/307452/geforce-gt650m-laptop-driver
[01:28] <noaXess> ablyss: this is strange.. its a asus 76vz but look here: Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. N56VZ
[01:30] <noaXess> asus n76vz
[01:31] <ablyss> noaXess, also check this out http://www.nvidia.de/object/cuda_1_1_beta.html
[01:31] <noaXess> it's not nvidia specifix i think.. cause main grafic is intel..
[01:33] <ablyss> noaXess, nope its intel with nvidia VGA
[01:34] <noaXess> ablyss: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373871/
[01:34] <noaXess> ok.. so you mean nvidia driver need to be installed?
[01:34] <ablyss> noaXess, from what I can tell it's nvidia VGA
[01:35] <ablyss> noaXess, http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=N76VZ&os=30
[01:35] <noaXess> ill install back nvidia-current
[01:35] <noaXess> ablyss: i see.. but there are two grafic drivers..
[01:35] <noaXess> one for nvidia another for intel
[01:36] <ablyss> noaXess, oh sure is.  I see three. two for nvidia and one for intel
[01:36] <noaXess> but if i look at X.org.0.log it breaks on intel (0)
[01:36] <noaXess> WUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:37] <noaXess> installed nvida-current.. and YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[01:37] <noaXess> seas nvidia-319 is buggy for kernel 3.11
[01:37] <ablyss> noaXess, nvidia-current worked?
[01:38] <noaXess> wait.. gimme a minute.. right back ;)
[01:38] <noaXess1> here i am ;)
[01:38] <noaXess1> come back soon
[01:39] <noaXess> here i am realy ;)
[01:39] <noaXess> ablyss: thanks.. for hint ;)
[01:40] <ablyss> noaXess, sure thing..  i'm glad i could be hintful :-)
[01:40] <noaXess> whats now.. seams effects are not enabled .. hm.
[01:41] <noaXess> now just bring back desktop effects.. cause i love them.. now just a 2d desktop..
[01:41] <ablyss> noaXess, shift+Alt+F12
[01:41] <noaXess> no fading and so on..
[01:42] <noaXess> seams destkp effect system not running
[01:43] <noaXess> will try reinstall nvidia-319.. maybe if it is new compiled for kernel 3.11 it works...
[01:44] <gassho> :T
[01:45] <gassho> i meant the source for all the packages
[01:46] <noaXess> ok.. now also with nvidia-319 it works.. hm... bu no desktop effects..
[02:08] <trung_> exit
[02:28] <noaXess> ablyss: i got effects back ;) https://plus.google.com/105093959267719281067/posts/LcTyfzwcAXt
[04:00] <jalcine> noaXess: the best part of KDE ;)
[04:29] <Guest901> test
[04:30] <MangaKaDenza> test  denied
[04:39] <demsking__> hi
[05:39] <TheyTookErJobs> Hello all, I just installed Kubuntu and I must say - it's beautiful.
[05:44] <TheyTookErJobs> I don't see any file browsers though?
[05:44] <TheyTookErJobs> oh, Dolphin, n/m
[05:51] <TheyTookErJobs> Anyone alive?
[05:59] <MangaKaDenza> hai
[06:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Hey Manga, how are ya? This rooms a lively bunch at night ;)
[06:03] <MangaKaDenza> :P
[06:04] <TheyTookErJobs> I just installed Kubuntu for the first time tonight. First time experiencing KDE as well and it's beautiful.
[06:04] <TheyTookErJobs> It really is, it's fantastic
[06:04] <MangaKaDenza> yep
[06:04] <TheyTookErJobs> No need for unity or gnome hah
[06:05] <TheyTookErJobs> KDE was the last one I tried
[06:05] <TheyTookErJobs> I can't seem to get the right default sound output to show in my master volume though? I went into the mixer and set the right one as the master but it still controls some other sound device I didn't know I had
[06:11] <TheyTookErJobs> ah I got it. Had to select the other one even though it was showing as the master and then back to the real one. weird bug.
[07:50] <eagles0513875> hey all I have tried everything under the sun to get my track pad working even stuff I have found online its an elantech trackpad and im at my wits end. I have never had this happen in kubuntu with any release I have used. anyone have any ideas
[07:53] <jussi> eagles0513875: have you tired this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2071125 (youll need to translate the gnome specific commands, but otherwise should work
[07:53] <eagles0513875> jussi: yes and still nothing
[07:55] <jussi> eagles0513875: there are several solutions, the best on seems to be blacklisting, noted abit further down. also, note the turning it on at login item
[07:56] <eagles0513875> tried turning it on at login time and nothing, but how would i determine what i need to black list?
[07:57] <mah454> Hello
[07:58] <mah454> Please view this picture : http://pbrd.co/1iOrP4Z and this paste : http://pastebin.com/r70vbhQd
[07:58] <mah454> I can not use kaddressbook
[07:58] <mah454> How can fix it ?
[08:02] <jussi> eagles0513875: the thread tells you which module (never mind the name)
[08:02] <eagles0513875> ok will try them out
[08:03] <eagles0513875> on a different note jussi is there a way in kmix to set permanently which master channel to use as it seems to revert to the one which doesnt work after a reboot
[08:03] <jussi> mah454: Ive no idea how to fix that, perhaps try #kontact ?
[08:04] <jussi> eagles0513875: system settings/multimedia/audio and video settings then make the one you want highest priority (I think that is what you are asking)
[08:05] <eagles0513875> O_o i changed the default in there already and its working just fine as i had no audio output when i first started.
[08:05] <eagles0513875> kmix on the other hand uses the channel which has no output as the master by default. I go in and change it from the kmix master channel select menu but on reboot it doesnt use that same setting
[08:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:09] <eagles0513875> hey lordievader
[09:31] <chuwie> hi guys! my setup: kubuntu 13.10, laptop and an external monitor, I want to have a panel on both Monitors (easy) but when I am using just the laptop the panel of my external monitor is shown on the laptop monitor - how can i change that?
[10:16] <Wizard> chuwie: I belive panel has an something like "omnipresent".
[10:16] <Wizard> "An something", sheesh ;P
[10:18] <Wizard> How did you set panel to appear on both screens? You added new panel?
[10:20] <chuwie> i added a new one on my 2nd screen
[10:21] <chuwie> and when I'm going out with my laptop the panel of the 2nd screen appears as well...
[10:21] <Wizard> That's quite logical, you have *two* panels, KDE rearanges them when you turn your seconf monitor off ;)
[10:22] <chuwie> i just switched from gnome to kde so everything is quite new (and better as far as i can see)
[10:22] <chuwie> ok... i didn't know that.. thx wizard
[10:22] <Wizard> Don't worry, I belive KDE has some setting for you.
[10:23] <Wizard> Either check in systemsettings, on click that blob at the end of your panel and look through "more options"
[10:23] <Wizard> There should be something like 'show on all screens'.
[10:24] <chuwie> I will check that out when I am back home! KDE has so much settings - but finally I can customize my desktop out of the box.
[10:34] <Wizard> chuwie: Some conside multitude of options as a blessing. Some - as a nightmare.
[10:37] <chuwie> Wizard: true.. I was quite happy with gnome - until the started to remove stuff...
[10:37] <chuwie> *they
[10:39] <Wizard> Same could be say about KDE. Things change. Some people are happy with changes, others aren't. Nothing unusual.
[10:39] <Wizard> For example, I was mad when linux distros started upgrading KDE 1 to KDE 2.
[10:40] <Wizard> Many people was.
[10:40] <Wizard> Same thing happened during 3 to 4 transition.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:21] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[12:58] <apel7> hi, is anybody there willing to help me? I'm doing a course about free software and I need to interview someone involved in free software projects. Is anybody interested in answering some questions? It's only about 15 questions. Thank you
[13:00] <chaudhary> I'm free right now apel7 :)
[13:00] <BluesKaj> apel7. best to ask the devs in #kubuntu-devel or #kde-devel
[13:00] <Wizard> Yup.
[13:00] <apel7> ok, thank you
[13:02] <Wizard> BluesKaj is involved in Kubuntu dev process too!
[13:02]  * Wizard hides.
[13:04] <[Raiden]> I want to install 4.11.3, but I have to wait ...
[13:04] <Wizard> Wait for what?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> I don't do polls , his request has nothing to do wit kubuntu support and I'm not developer , but I am a tester, Wizard
[13:05] <Wizard> :>
[13:06] <[Raiden]> Wizard: no builds for Kubuntu
[13:06] <Wizard> Well, since .3 is a patch release it should apear in main repos soon.
[13:06] <Wizard> No need to hurry.
[13:07] <[Raiden]> ok )
[13:07] <Wizard> In 13.10.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> [Raiden]. make sure you have your backport repos enabled and when it's available you'll just need to upgrade
[13:10] <Wizard> Oh, so .3 won't hit official repos?
[13:10] <Wizard> Or will, but later later?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> usually later
[13:12] <[Raiden]> t's all clear. I would like to say that makes longer than I would like. In opensuse already available.  :)
[13:13] <BluesKaj> but I'm not sure how much later since I don't pay much attention after I have it
[13:13] <Wizard> Well, since KDE is essential part of Kubuntu and it is big, adaptation can take some time.
[13:14] <BluesKaj> [Raiden]. it's not a big change anyway , barely notice any difference
[13:14] <BluesKaj> the big changeis coming with KDE 5 methinks
[13:15] <jussi> nah, kde5 change wont be like the kde3->4 change
[13:15] <Wizard> Rather like 2->3.
[13:16] <BluesKaj> jussi. well I hope not , that was almost a complete disaster
[13:17] <BluesKaj> ruined kmail and kontact for me , just as an example
[13:17] <jussi> kmail is ok, works for me (Im using it on a daily basis at work)
[13:17] <jussi> kontact also
[13:18] <BluesKaj> not here , it segfaults after a week or so
[13:24] <alvin> Kmail works fine here (at the moment). But every hour or so, plasma-desktop crashes and comes back again.
[13:27] <student> tüdelü
[13:28] <student> whats up
[13:29] <BluesKaj> student. kubuntu support , if you need it :)
[13:29] <BluesKaj> alvin. have you updated/upgraded lately?
[13:30] <student> heuren david
[13:30] <student_> mooin
[13:30] <alvin> BluesKaj: Yes, to 13.10. But I remember it happening before. KDE version on raring was the same, right? (when using kubuntu-ppa)
[13:32] <BluesKaj> alvin. do you mean the backports ?
[13:33] <alvin> BluesKaj: yes
[13:34] <BluesKaj> could be a graphics glitch too , alvin , I don't recall many similar issues with other users, alvin
[13:34] <alvin> It's random. Several times during the day. Graphic driver is nouveau.
[13:36] <Wizard> alvin: Is anything being printed to .xsession-errors during crash?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> then you have an nvidia gpu , have you considered the additional drivers available in kmenu>apps>system ?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> alvin.^
[13:36] <alvin> BluesKaj: considered, yes. But I'd rather use the open source drivers for stability.
[13:36] <alvin> Let me see...
[13:37] <BluesKaj> uhm, well doesn't seem stable to me
[13:37] <alvin> Script for cjkv started at run_im.
[13:37] <alvin> Script for default started at run_im.
[13:37] <Wizard> Nothing special :(
[13:37] <alvin> That's the contents of .xsession-errors.
[13:37] <Wizard> When plasma crashes, does KDE spit its crash report window?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> alvin. have you even tried the proprietary drivers , they are very stable on most nvidia equipped pcs
[13:39] <alvin> I believe so. I normally read it every time nepomuk/virtuoso/akonadi crashes, but the plasma-desktop actually recovers. I'll see if I can read something next time.
[13:39] <alvin> BluesKaj: Yes, but it was years ago.
[13:39] <alvin> I believe in the open source drivers, so I use them. If something goes wrong, I'll be sure to report it :-)
[13:40] <BluesKaj> alvin. then don't carry an opinion for yrs that isn't valid anymore
[13:41] <alvin> I can imagine the nVidia drivers to be faster, but not to be more integrated with the rest of the system.
[13:42] <Wizard> I belive this may be bug.
[13:43] <alvin> Switching between X and the command line was easier with the open source drivers. It might be that this has changed of course. Still no reason to use proprietary software over open source.
[13:44] <student> schwulen joe
[13:44] <kubuntu> deng mam
[13:44] <student> wasch willscht dusch
[13:44] <Guest1593> dein mammesch
[13:45] <student> wien ass den schwulen gabu
[13:45] <Guest1593> du bass den schwulen gabu
[13:45] <student__> deng mamm
[13:45] <student> gue naicht
[13:45] <IdleOne> !german
[13:45] <student_> schwulen krystian
[13:46] <BluesKaj> well, that's your call alvin , but being an idealist is fine if stuff works , not so much if it doesn't , reality is that the proprietary drivers do better job than nouveau on most setups
[13:47] <student> tüdelü
[13:47] <student__> den polak luutscht dem luka seng chicken
[13:47] <student> deng mam ass neidesch well ech him seng aarbescht klauen
[13:47] <alvin> I don't game. This is my workstation at work. On my laptop the proprietary drivers don't detect the DPI correctly, while nouveau does. So, it's really easier.
[13:47] <student__> jo als pute
[13:48] <BluesKaj> student__. English please or join #ubuntu-de
[13:48] <alvin> I think nouveau as default was and is still a good choice.
[13:48] <student> safd
[13:48] <student___> 8[13:48] <student___> decken bunnes
[13:48] <student> penisverlängerungsgerär
[13:48] <student___> xD
[13:48] <student__> deng mamm jitzt op dech
[13:48] <student> Blueskaj shudup bitsch
[13:48] <student> *bitch
[13:48] <BluesKaj> alvin. not if plasma keeps crashing intermittently
[13:49] <alvin> I doubt that that's the reason, but I'll try to find out.
[13:49] <BluesKaj> !COC | student
[13:52] <BluesKaj> alvin. it's certainly worth a try tho.
[13:53] <alvin> BluesKaj: True. i'll wait for another crash and after that, I'll switch the driver. That's still by using jockey, no?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> alvin , the additional drivers GUI in kmenu>apps>system, is the best method and it uses jockey
[13:56] <alvin> thx
[14:09] <BluesKaj> IdleOne. , ah , you picked up on all the joins from one IP ...good eyes
[14:10] <IdleOne> I figured they might get bored, they didn't :/
[14:10] <Wizard> IdleOne++
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yeah , silly stuff , thinking all those joins would muck things up for us
[14:11] <eagles0513875> hey agai n
[14:21] <konsu> Wizard: then let us be happy about how things are now... and welcome change :D
[14:26] <Wizard> konsu: ?
[14:27] <konsu> Wizard: former chuwie
[14:28] <Wizard> You change nicks often than I change pants.
[14:29] <konsu> lolz - just forgot to change it back and now i am to lazy to do it...
[14:39] <Wizard> konsu: So, did you find this setting?
[14:57] <konsu> Wizard: not home yet.. still sitting in Uni, Software Quality lecture
[14:57] <Wizard> Boring! Go home and code something useful.
[14:57] <Wizard> Nobody cares about software quality. Trust me. I'm an engeeneer.
[14:58] <konsu> Wizard: I can't otherwise i will not get a mark
[14:58] <Wizard> (And let's take it to #kubuntu-offtopic)
[14:58] <konsu> k
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> I just installed a 12.04.3 at someone, and installed all the updates using a 3G modem. I can't get the DSL connection to work. it just won't connect. what am I missing? is there something broken?
[15:17] <alvin> I haven't used DSL in years. Maybe an extra package is needed? Let's see...
[15:17] <genii> ovidiu-florin: Did you go through the checklist: Cord is good? Ethernet adapter works? Router/modem is doing the authentication and just giving DHCP to computer? Ethernet adapter is brought up last so that it's settings are the ones being used?
[15:18] <ovidiu-florin> genii: Everything works on windows. There is no router/modem envolved. It's a direct connection using pppoe
[15:18] <alvin> My first idea was a missing network-manager-pptp package, but that seems to be installed by default
[15:19] <alvin> No modem involved?
[15:19] <alvin> ovidiu-florin: Do you mean, a LAN connection? What device creates the connection? The pc?
[15:20] <ovidiu-florin> alvin: yes. maybe it's the internal "modem" of the laptop. But I'm connecting using an standard RJ-45 cable
[15:20] <ovidiu-florin> alvin: yes
[15:21] <alvin> If you're using RJ45 the modem creates the connection.
[15:21] <genii> There must be a modem of some sort in the equation. Perhaps it's in bridged mode and the PC has to do the auth
[15:21] <alvin> So, what network devices do you have? eth0 I suppose?
[15:21] <ovidiu-florin> I have a cable that comes from a ISP device on the hallway to all the neighbours as an upt cable with an rj-45 at the end
[15:21] <CollinAspire> Hi
[15:22] <alvin> ovidiu-florin: Try the command nm-tool and look for "Device"
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> alvin: I'm not at that computer right now
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> but I've also found that problem with every Kubuntu I've used on that tipe of connection
[15:24] <alvin> Oh, ok. Well, if you don't have to do any settings in Windows, it should be the same in Kubuntu. Kubuntu uses NetworkManager, and when you put in a cable, that'll ask an address by DHCP.
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> I have to do something in windows
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> alvin: here: http://tutoriale.eul.ro/aplicatii/cum-se-creeaza-conexiune-de-internet-pppoe-de-la-rds-in-windows-xp-tutorial/
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> it's in romanian
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> but the images are in english
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> this is how it must be done on windows
[15:26]  * Wizard lurks only to check how does Romanian langage look :>
[15:27] <alvin> ovidiu-florin: I see. Well, then Kubuntu is more or less the same. There's a DSL type in NetworkManager
[15:27] <genii> So the modem is in bridged mode and the computers all authenticate to the ISP
[15:28] <genii> With this type of way, if you have more than 2-3 computers hooked up each authenticating, the ISP normally will only let only 2 connect at the same time. This is why most people would use a router in between to do the authentication instead.
[15:28] <ovidiu-florin> I know that
[15:28] <ovidiu-florin> the router is broken
[15:28] <ovidiu-florin> they'll get a new one later this month
[15:28] <alvin> That is correct. The trick is to let Windows end the connection and release the IP. (ipconfig /release)
[15:29] <ovidiu-florin> but this still needs to work.
[15:29] <alvin> ovidiu-florin: Have you tried using NetworkManager (Add Connection > DSL)
[15:29] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[15:29] <ovidiu-florin> and I've added the Username and password
[15:30] <ovidiu-florin> and used the defaults for the rest
[15:30] <ovidiu-florin> does not connect
[15:30] <alvin> ovidiu-florin: If that didn't work, look in /var/log/syslog what goes wrong when making the connection
[15:30] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried to check and uncheck the authentication and other things and still it does not connect
[15:30] <ovidiu-florin> aham
[15:30] <ovidiu-florin> I always forget about the logs
[15:31] <alvin> They can come in handy :-)
[15:31] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> hey lordievader
[15:31] <ovidiu-florin> any experience in pppoe connections in Kubuntu?
[15:31] <lordievader> Nope, sorry.
[15:36] <genii> ovidiu-florin: The alternate way is to use pppoeconf at commandline to set up the connection, then in /etc/network/interfaces to put a post-up directive of pon dsl-provider and a post-down directive of poff dsl-provider
[15:37] <genii> The pppoeconf package is usually on the CD/DVD so that you don't require a connection to install it
[15:38] <ovidiu-florin> I made it work like that once before, but why does  network manager work?
[15:38] <ovidiu-florin> still
[15:39] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I tried to kill and restart plasma-desktop and no difference
[15:40] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: And restarting lightdm?
[15:41] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: haven't tried that
[15:41] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Also kill sigint (thought that was default) or sigkill (-9?) (not sure of the conversion.. let me check)
[15:42] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: I use pkill
[15:43] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: But just pkill? No additional flags?
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: killed and started again plasma-desktop
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: yup
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> and it works now
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> yeeey
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[15:43] <ovidiu-florin> so it was owncloud
[15:44] <ovidiu-florin> aparently there is a probem in owncloud it it looses the connection to the server, it breaks plasma
[15:44] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: That is odd, file a bug ;)
[15:45] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know if I can deplicate this environment
[15:47] <bjrohan> For those who were helping me get my graphics and sound back on track after the 13.10 upgrade. They now work . .  I think. I have yet to replug into the HDMI output to TV, but it is all back to normal. For beats audio in the sound settings I changed from the intel =ref to hp_dv something or other
[15:52] <bjrohan> Hey everyone. I have been a Kubuntu user for a little over a year.  I like it. That being said I want to get more into the nuts and bolts of Linux, and honestly will need something that forces me to do so, or at least gives me more of a reason to. Does that make sense? Would arch do this
[15:53] <genii> bjrohan: For a good learning exercise about Linux in general, I would recommend to do at least once the Linux From Scratch
[15:53] <genii> !lfs
[15:55] <bjrohan> I had used Linux from scratch . . . in 1996 when I first used Linux via RedHat :-)
[15:55] <bjrohan> had to compile my own kernel with the correct drivers. But, that was long ago
[15:57] <bjrohan> genii: Another question, can I save the file in my home dir, and then reuse them when I switch to a new distro?
[15:58] <genii> bjrohan: If you are again using KDE desktop, all the stuff in /home/yourname/.kde   directory should still be relevant. But since different distros often use different paths for things, there may be some breakage on other things.
[15:59] <bjrohan> genii: gotcha, but if I install LibreOffice, all of those files will still work, mp3's etc
[16:00] <bjrohan> May have to redo desktop settings, etc
[16:00] <genii> bjrohan: LibreOffice I'm not sure. But if you just have say a bunch of mp3 in your Downloads folder or so, those will still be good of course
[16:01] <bjrohan> I figured as much, but just wanted some thoughts
[16:02] <bjrohan> I imagine I could use a Live USB to test it out and see?
[16:09] <ronnoc> Hi all. Can someone remind me of the app that lets you take 2 or 3 pictures and merges them into one allowing you to adjust the angles of the pictures, etc? Like the one used in the latest KDE announcement: http://kde.org/announcements/4.11/screenshots/jpg/send-later.jpg
[16:09] <ronnoc> I totally forgot the name >.<
[16:24] <genii> !info enblend
[16:28] <eagles0513875> any audio experts in here i change the master channel that kmix should use but on reboot it reverts to previous setting
[16:29] <eagles0513875> it seems like the settings for audio in system settings are totally ignored and at least what ever i change to there are ignored
[16:33] <wissam> Hi,kubuntu 13.10 freezes completely when unplugging charger at random times ,i try to boot with "edd=off" and so far no freezes happenned. so what does edd=off means?
[16:47] <george_> hello. where is the location folder of kde weather icons?
[17:14] <genii> george: It uses the icons of the theme you use. So /usr/share/icons/<theme-name>/ <icon-dimensions>/status/
[17:14] <ronnoc> thx genii!
[17:15] <genii> ronnoc: You're welcome
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> genii: I have a kubuntu 13.10 in forn ot fme with the same pppoe connection
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> how do I do this in the new interface?
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> I don't see a connect button
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> the eth0 network devide does not apear in the NM
[17:17] <ronnoc> genii: There was / is a GUI app for this as well, but the console version will work for me & is already installed by default.
[17:18] <ovidiu-florin> alvin: ^^
[17:19] <genii> ovidiu-florin: Probably will be not named eth0 but ppp0
[17:19] <genii> Apologies on lag, my work is somewhat busy right now.
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> genii: I've added a dsl connection in the new network manager
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> what now?
[17:24] <genii> ovidiu-florin: Can you ping any place?
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> I'm also using wireless
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> wireless is connected and it works
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> and in the edit connections in NM it shows that the DSL is not connected
[17:27] <genii> ovidiu-florin: My connections are manually set in interfaces file so I don't normally bother with the network manager. But I think you can connect if it is double-clicked, or perhaps it's right click for context menu of connect/disconnect
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> there is no context menu
[17:28] <genii> alvin or some other who uses NM regularly could probably assist more
[17:29] <genii> ovidiu-florin: Apologies on not being of more assistance, but as I said, I don't even normally use it :)
[18:17] <volkan> hello, do you know the reason why kde 4.11. update did not arrive for Kubuntu?
[18:25] <ovidiu-florin> volkan: not packaged yet?
[18:28] <soee> 4.11.3 ?
[18:53] <volkan> ovidiu-florin: i dont know, i guess, i have backports enabled but have not come yet
[18:53] <volkan> soee: yes
[18:56] <DarthCodus> My kubuntu freezes on wakeup from sustpend after the 13.10 upgrade
[18:56] <DarthCodus> the dmesg has:
[18:57] <DarthCodus> *ERROR* atombios stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
[18:57] <DarthCodus> errors
[18:57] <DarthCodus> thinsg have been fine with the 3.8.0-19 kernel though
[18:58] <Rory> DarthCodus: Just to clarify, you mean things are now fine, or things are now broken?
[18:58] <DarthCodus> Rory: they are broken on the newer kernel
[18:59] <Rory> DarthCodus: What hardware do you have, is it a laptop?
[18:59] <DarthCodus> yep
[19:04] <DarthCodus> it's a dell 7520, gpu: amd 7730m, cpu: i7-3612qm
[19:16] <DarthCodus> Rory: ^
[19:56] <gassho> how do i play a dvd on this here dragon player
[20:10] <genii> gassho: Usually Play Media... then choose Disc
[20:22] <Gabriella-Keilan> Why is it that every time I join a channel there is absolutely nothing going on? There are a lot of people here, but absolutely no activity other than xxx has joined, yyy has left.
[20:24] <Gabriella-Keilan> This is no use, I am out of here. Goodbye.
[20:28] <genii> No news is usually good news.
[20:29]  * genii goes back to coffee
[21:12] <glenrock> when i right click an open window and choose "Show a launcher when not running", how do you control the size of those launcher icons?