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meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov  7 16:03:34 2013 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:03
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slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:04
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slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu)16:04
slangasekdoko stgraber xnox cjwatson jodh barry stokachu slangasek bdmurray16:04
slangasekdoko_: please :)16:05
doko_- Linaro Connect16:07
doko_- visiting the client sprint on Friday16:07
doko_- some initial toolchain work16:07
doko_(done)16:07
stgraberMerges:16:08
stgraber - Done with most of my usual set, helping with a couple more16:08
stgraber - Slowly processing the resolvconf one16:08
stgraberLTSP hackfest (Wednesday afternoon till Sunday):16:08
stgraber - Discussed the plans for LTSP 616:08
stgraber - Made some progress on libnss-sshauth and libpam-sshauth (modules allowing a machine to authenticate based on the result of an ssh connection to another machine)16:08
stgraber - Worked with vagrant to try and reduce the Debian/Ubuntu delta16:08
stgraber - Looked into possible new features for LTSP, mostly per-user session containers and checkpoint/restart support16:08
stgraberLXC:16:08
stgraber - Reworked the whole LXC CI environment, triggered once per hour if a commit is there, uploading to our PPA up to twice a day, test building on Ubuntu and Debian for amd64, i386 and armhf, also building with coverity and doing a clang based test build16:08
stgraber - Various code reviews and bug fixes16:08
stgraber - Helped debug a few 3.12 related issues16:08
stgraber - Took a close look at lmctfy, trying to figure out a detailed plan for our own cgroup manager16:08
stgraberSystem images:16:08
stgraber - Introduced two new channels for a different set of customized images16:08
stgraber - Changed the devel-* aliases to point to trusty (expect a full update next time)16:08
stgraberRelease:16:08
stgraber - Tried to empty most of the queues as best I could, I think we're pretty much caught up on pending SRUs now at least16:08
stgraber - Planned a bunch of sessions for vUDS (release, lxc, cgroup management)16:08
stgraberOther:16:08
stgraber - Been working on IPv6 patches for a few server related packages I use and that were failing quite badly in IPv6-only environment16:08
stgraber 16:08
stgraberTODO this week:16:08
stgraber - resolveconf merge16:09
stgraber - Get Android test builds in the LXC CI infrastructure16:09
stgraber - Try to integrate Oracle RPM builds to the LXC CI infrastructure16:09
stgraber - LXC work on container autostart16:09
stgraber - Prepare for LXC 1.0~alpha216:09
stgraber(DONE)16:09
xnox* Transitions: bost1.49 removed, boost1.53 removal pending16:09
xnox  mini-transition resolutions, db5.1 removal pending ubuntu-keyboard16:09
xnox  release with fix to work with pinyin4.16:09
xnox* Many upstart code reviews done.16:09
xnox* Emulator:16:09
xnox  - does have adbd/networking, and in the archive.16:09
xnox  - rsalvetti/sergiusens is digging into GL issues (segfault when16:09
xnox  accessing ThreadLocalStorage OpenGL pre-allocated slots :-/) at the16:09
xnox  moment recompiling kernel & bionic and some such.16:09
xnox  - From segfault we are up at -> error EGL_NOT_INITIALIZED16:10
xnox* Doing merges, from interesting ones crytpsetup done (brings16:10
xnox  TrueCrypt support) and mdadm is still todo (also see mdadm fakeraid16:10
xnox  vUDS session)16:10
xnox* Next week Debian Mini-conf UK Thursday-Sunday.16:10
xnox* TODO: - ubiquity code reviews (not done from last meeting, more came16:10
jodhxnox: >Many upstart code reviews done: thanks!16:10
xnoxin)16:10
xnox(DONE)16:10
cjwatsonCanonical client planning sprint.16:10
cjwatsonMerged Brian's chroot management support into lp:click and got it working well enough for a sprint demo (which was well-received).  Generally updated people outside Foundations on our plan for cross-building/emulation for app testing.16:10
cjwatsonMerged ben from unstable and ported transition tracker to new version in trusty, gaining us Depends: foo:any support, better level calculation, and a better index.16:11
cjwatsonWorking on FusionIO disk detection in GRUB (bug 1237519).16:11
ubottubug 1237519 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Grub2 fails to install to non-standard device path" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123751916:11
cjwatsonSome multiarch conversions to help with targeted cross-build situations.16:11
cjwatsonLP adjustment to rely only on one other machine for running germinate rather than two (https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/configurable-germinate-base/+merge/194340).16:11
cjwatsonTo do: finish FusionIO work, catch up on other GRUB OEM bugs, parallelise germinate across architectures in publisher, release new click version to trusty16:11
cjwatson..16:11
jodh* upstart16:11
jodh  - Reworked lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1238078 (now merged).16:11
jodh  - Merged lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-123564916:11
jodh  - Discussions with CI re Upstart DEP-8 testing.16:11
jodh  - Wrote script to detect new Upstart jobs hitting the archive16:11
cjwatsonoh, I also showed off the emulator in the sprint demo, albeit with a disclaimer about lack of graphics :-)16:11
jodh    (with a view to reviewing jobs):16:11
jodh    http://people.canonical.com/~jhunt/upstart/scripts/check_for_new_upstart_jobs.sh16:11
jodh    Now, just need to find a way to automatically detect changes to16:11
jodh    upstart jobs without having to parse trusty-changes. Ideas?16:11
jodh  - Overcoming ptrace limitations: Fixed 2 bugs in preliminary branch.16:11
jodh    Currently working adding additional ptrace tests to ensure expected behaviour.16:11
jodhʝ16:11
barrysystem-image: LP: #1217098.  system-image 2.0 testing (looking good - waiting on LP: #1215586 for u/i and landing slot).  nexus 10 installation and testing.16:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1217098 in Ubuntu system image "Avoid re-downloading data files" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121709816:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1215586 in Ubuntu system image "The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121558616:12
barryvUDS: core-1311-python3-roadmap.  re-engaging with xapian upstream (lots of progress there recently).  started updating python3 porting plan for 14.04 (spreadsheets, wiki).  http://tinyurl.com/mtf9jrb16:12
barryother: LP: #1248417.  started looking at LP: #1165104.  python-coverage sponsorship in debian.  converted enum34 (0.9.19-1) to pybuild and updated LibraryStyleGuide for pybuild.  PEP 8 updates.  dmb meeting.16:12
barrydone16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1248417 in python3-defaults (Ubuntu) "Sync python3-defaults 3.3.2-17 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124841716:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1165104 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf is only showing the pc you are on in raring and isn't sharing to other machines" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116510416:12
xnoxjodh: i thought we had deduplication running somewhere and possibly ability to fetch md5sums of files.16:13
xnoxjodh: as it md5sums of all /etc/init/*16:13
jodhxnox: sounds great - just define somewhere! :)16:13
xnoxjodh: conditional branch is out of range16:14
slangasekxnox: aha; the backtrace sergiusens first shared did look like it was pointing to a TLS problem, you've confirmed now and are making headway?  Is there anything I can do to help with that, or is the debugging env sufficiently arcane that I should just stay clear?16:14
jodhxnox: ?16:14
xnoxslangasek: there is progress, needs recompiled bionic. I didn't try it yet myself. serge and rsalveti are on it.... they did tweak TLS slots before to make bionic work at all.16:17
xnoxnot bionic, for hybris to work.16:17
slangasekxnox: ahh, ok16:17
slangasekjodh: without parsing trusty-changes> grab Contents-i386.gz for the list of all packages containing jobs, and download Packages.gz to get the list of current versions; at interval of your choice, re-download the Contents and Packages; for each newly-introduced job file, or for each package version that's changed, download and compare16:19
jodhslangasek: ack - thanks!16:19
cjwatsonnote that Contents is only updated daily as it's pretty expensive to compute16:20
slangasekxnox: right, TLS for bionic + hybris is something special... the work they did there is actually quite scary ;)16:20
jodhcjwatson: ack16:20
slangasekxnox: hmm, I wonder if that work could actually be interfering with native thread support on the bionic side?  Since most of it *did* involve "neutering threads"16:20
slangasek * Client sprint last week, lots of discussions... won't try to give you a systematic update here, you'll certainly see the discussions reflected in the UDS sessions coming up in two weeks16:21
slangasek  * good discussions about how to support go on the client, which we will see more of this cycle16:21
slangasek * dates set for the Ubuntu Core sprint, please get your travel approvals in :)16:21
slangasek * helped with upstart MP reviews, we finally have the queue under control (mostly due to xnox!) and will see a new upstream release soon16:21
slangasek * upstart discussions in Debian: the question of default init system has now gone to the Debian Technical Committee16:21
slangasek * was out sick Tuesday - too much travel is bad for the body16:21
slangasek * upcoming:16:21
slangasek  * Monday is Veterans' Day16:21
slangasek  * I'm up for jury duty on Tuesday (and possibly longer)16:21
slangasek  * looking at the emulator, and possibly even helping16:21
slangasek(done)16:21
bdmurrayubuntu-release-upgrader bug triage16:22
bdmurrayset up ubuntu security team virtual machine environment for bug testing16:22
bdmurraySRU verification of bug 45941816:22
bdmurraySRU verification of update-manager bug 107105716:22
bdmurraytested slangasek's fix for bug 1069019 (didn't seem to work)16:22
slangasekbdmurray:16:22
bdmurrayuploaded and tested SRU fixes for unzip bug 580961 and bug 119923916:22
ubottubug 459418 in lazr.restfulclient (Ubuntu Quantal) "Cache is not safe for concurrent use (by processes or threads)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45941816:22
slangasekoops :)16:22
ubottubug 1071057 in update-manager (Ubuntu Saucy) "people report bugs about update-manager thinking it still does dist upgrades" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107105716:22
ubottubug 1069019 in python-apt (Ubuntu Saucy) "[software-properties-gtk] can not delete, enable or modify any software source with non-ASCII characters in the comment" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106901916:22
ubottubug 580961 in unzip (Ubuntu) "unzip fails to deal correctly with filename encodings" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58096116:22
ubottubug 1199239 in unzip (Ubuntu Raring) "[SRU] unzip list utf-8 (non-ascii) filenames as ??" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119923916:22
bdmurrayinvestigation into apt bug 957231 / bug 85409016:22
bdmurrayinvestigation into bug 984785 regarding glib2-0 (hot bug)16:22
bdmurrayirc discussion with pitti regarding bug 108497916:22
bdmurrayinvestigation into foundations-bugs currently receiving the most duplicates16:22
ubottubug 957231 in apt (Ubuntu Trusty) "update-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95723116:22
bdmurraysubmitted a merge proposal for ubiquity fixing bug 105193516:22
ubottubug 854090 in apt (Ubuntu) "aptd crashed with SIGSEGV in debListParser::LoadReleaseInfo()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85409016:22
ubottubug 984785 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Precise) ".goutputstream files polluting $HOME" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98478516:22
ubottubug 1084979 in apport (Ubuntu) "Submitting error report asks confounding questions" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108497916:22
ubottubug 1051935 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Saucy) "Fails with SystemError when too many files are open" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105193516:22
bdmurrayphased-updater work:16:22
bdmurrayresearch into contact person issue with packages sync'ed from a staging ppa (e.g. hud)16:22
bdmurrayupdated phased-updater to add in Reply-To header and also CC me16:22
slangasekxnox: have your fixes for upstart ppa recipe builds landed?  Because I still get an awful lot of build failure spam :)16:22
bdmurrayerrors work:16:22
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding updating errors and daisy revisions16:22
bdmurraysubmitted a fix for bug 1191182 (regarding version appending when selecting a package)16:22
ubottubug 1191182 in Errors "choosing a period on the main page appends a version to the query" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119118216:23
bdmurrayreported and submitted a fix for errors bug 1248259 (package version drop down not displayed)16:23
ubottubug 1248259 in Errors "package_versions drop down not displayed if you use the &package url parameter" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/124825916:23
bdmurraytriaged errors bug 121970616:23
ubottubug 1219706 in Errors "Follow state of bugs marked as duplicates" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121970616:23
bdmurrayinvestigation into errors bug 1218670 regarding date range calendar16:23
ubottubug 1218670 in Errors "date range calendar does not work in firefox" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121867016:23
bdmurraypushed a daisy branch to enable saucy-proposed in the retracers16:23
bdmurrayplanned rls:pkg:pkg_version counter changes16:23
bdmurray✔ done16:23
slangasekany questions over the above?16:25
slangasekjodh: and nicely done, taking my ptrace branch off the floor and making it un-broken :)  Will be so nice to have that bug finally fixed16:25
doko_slangasek, did I miss any message about the sprint?16:25
jodhslangasek: thanks - most of the credit goes to you though :)16:26
slangasekdoko_: what kind of message?  were you cc:ed on msm's mail?16:26
cjwatson17025 N T Nov 05 Michelle Surtee        PLEASE READ: Ubuntu Core sprint - 27 - 31 Jan 2014 - London, Bluefin16:27
cjwatson(no comments on my lack of inbox zero please :-P)16:27
xnoxslangasek: almost, there was broken commit on trunk. next set should be fine.16:27
bdmurraycjwatson: wow, that makes me feel better16:27
doko_slangasek, can't find it. forward would be appreciated16:27
slangasekxnox: whoops. whose commit was broken?16:28
slangasekdoko_: does 'doko@canonical.com' reach you?16:28
doko_should16:28
slangasekdoko_: forwarded16:29
slangasekjodh, xnox: does it actually make sense to do these upstart recipe builds across the set of releases we currently build for?  (raring,saucy,trusty?)16:31
xnoxslangasek: integration issue. trunk & MPs passed everything, the combination of the two with new automake in trusty did not, however.16:31
slangasekah16:31
slangasekok, cool :)16:31
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:31
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xnoxslangasek: yes it does. I want to go back all the way to precise actually.16:31
slangasekanything else?16:31
slangaseknow's a great time to discuss16:31
slangasekxnox: hmm.  I think we should build for precise, but not for raring16:31
xnoxslangasek: ok.16:32
xnoxslangasek: i'll check that it still works with quantal, then step down to precise, and then disable quantal & raring dailies.16:32
slangasekok16:32
cjwatsonare these recipe builds on devirt?16:34
cjwatson(either way, it's good to be economical with builder time, although the virt pool is worse off at the moment and probably will be until we get scalingstack)16:35
xnoxcjwatson: well upstart is ~8minute build.16:35
stgraberwe at least have one devirt PPA with builds, not sure if we still also have a virt one16:35
cjwatsonxnox: sure, it does add up though16:36
xnoxcjwatson: and armhf devirt has plenty of builders.16:36
cjwatsonand it's easier to argue against builds that are genuinely abusive when we're more consistent :)16:36
cjwatsonI agree it's not the worst problem by any means16:36
xnoxok.16:37
slangasekalrighty, guess we've exhausted our capacity for conversation today ;)16:39
slangasek#endmeeting16:39
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Nov  7 16:39:57 2013 UTC.16:39
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slangasekthanks, everyone!16:39
barrythanks!16:39
jodhthanks!16:40
stgraberthanks!16:41
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IdleOneDanChapman: you here?21:56
DanChapmanIdleOne, yes I am :-)21:57
IdleOneok cool, meeting will be starting in just a few21:57
DanChapman:-)21:57
* hggdh awakes, like the kraken21:59
PabloRubianeswell here we go21:59
PabloRubianes#startmeeting 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board22:00
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Nov  7 22:00:30 2013 UTC.  The chair is PabloRubianes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.22:00
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=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 2200 UTC Ubuntu Membership Board Meeting | Current topic:
PabloRubianesHello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board for the 2200 UTC meeting for November 7, 2013.22:00
PabloRubianesThe wiki page for the Review Board is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards22:00
PabloRubianesWe will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.22:00
PabloRubianesThe format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).22:00
PabloRubianesEach applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.22:00
PabloRubianesDuring this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.22:00
PabloRubianesWhen the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)22:00
PabloRubianes#voters IdleOne hggdh cyphermox PabloRubianes22:01
meetingologyCurrent voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes cyphermox hggdh22:01
PabloRubianesNow, without any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant22:01
PabloRubianes#subtopic DanChapman22:01
PabloRubianesDanChapman,  are you here?22:02
* hggdh kicks meetingology22:02
DanChapmanPabloRubianes, I am indeed22:02
hggdhDanChapman: please go ahead and introduce yourself22:02
DanChapmanWell my name is Daniel Chapman I live in the UK and am currently studying CS at university. I've been using Ubuntu since 10.10 and have been getting involved in the community for the last 6-7 months22:03
DanChapmanthe link for my wiki page is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/dpniel and my launchpad page is launchpad.net/~dpniel22:04
IdleOneDanChapman: Your main focus has been on the QA team, are there any other parts of the Ubuntusphere you contribute in?22:05
DanChapmanIdleOne, so far not really, I've spent most of my time writing tests for ubiquity, I plan to spread my contributions across the Ubuntusphere as time progresses, but my main focus atm is to get quality tests for ubiquity across all flavors :-)22:06
IdleOneImportant work for sure.22:07
hggdhDanChapman: I see you proposed a humongous marge on ubiquity ;-)22:07
xnoxI'd like to second DanChapman for Ubuntu Membership.22:07
DanChapmanhggdh, It's still growing ;-p22:08
* xnox would have thought DanChapman would be applying via Developer Membership Board as a contributing member =)22:08
PabloRubianes#voters IdleOne hggdh cyphermox PabloRubianes freeflying22:08
meetingologyCurrent voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes cyphermox freeflying hggdh22:08
xnoxcontributing developer that is.22:08
IdleOneAnybody else here to cheer for DanChapman ?22:08
hggdh+1 without questions. Thank you!22:08
IdleOnehggdh: vote has not started yet :P22:09
cyphermox#vote22:09
JoseGutierrezhello all22:09
hggdhduh22:09
hggdh+1 without questions. Thank you!22:09
xnoxIdleOne: I'm ubiquity developer =) so I simply got highlighted on "ubiquity" keyword. And DanChapman is amazing and is running in jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com22:09
PabloRubianes#vote DanChapman  to obtain Ubuntu Membership22:09
meetingologyPlease vote on: DanChapman  to obtain Ubuntu Membership22:09
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)22:09
cyphermox+122:09
meetingology+1 received from cyphermox22:09
freeflying+122:09
meetingology+1 received from freeflying22:09
PabloRubianes+122:09
meetingology+1 received from PabloRubianes22:09
IdleOne+1 keep up the good work.22:09
meetingology+1 keep up the good work. received from IdleOne22:09
hggdhbloody hell, meetingology is really slow today. Third time is the charm, I guess22:09
cyphermoxIdleOne: xnox is part of the Canonical Foundations team22:09
hggdh+1 without questions. Thank you!22:09
meetingology+1 without questions. Thank you! received from hggdh22:09
PabloRubianes#endvote22:09
meetingologyVoting ended on: DanChapman  to obtain Ubuntu Membership22:09
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:09
meetingologyMotion carried22:09
PabloRubianescongrats DanChapman22:10
hggdhDanChapman: welcome in!22:10
cyphermoxcongrats DanChapman22:10
IdleOneCongrats DanChapman. You are now an Ubuntu member!22:10
DanChapmanThanks everyone :-D22:10
* xnox \o\ \o/ /o/22:10
cyphermoxdon't forget to add your blog to planet.ubuntu.com :)22:10
hggdhxnox: :-)22:10
DanChapmancyphermox, I will do.22:10
IdleOneand request your /ubuntu/member cloak in #ubuntu-irc22:10
DanChapmanxnox thanks for the support :-)22:10
PabloRubianesand with this we end the meeting for today22:10
PabloRubianes#endmeeting22:10
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meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Nov  7 22:11:24 2013 UTC.22:10
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IdleOnequick and dirty. Just how it should be :)22:11
DanChapmanWow that was quick22:11
hggdhindeed.22:12
IdleOnethere was very little to discuss, strong testimonials22:12
freeflyingjust got my coffe :)22:12
hggdhDanChapman: you can go right now and ask for your cloak, you *are* a member (via ~dpniel)22:12
DanChapmanhggdh i will get on that now22:13
DanChapmanThanks22:13
hggdhyw22:13
DanChapmanxnox, i didn't realise I could have applied through the Developer Membership Board22:14
hggdhDanChapman: you should still apply for developer status, though. It just happens that being a dev would also give you Ubuntu membership (but being an Ubuntu member does not give you dev status)22:15
DanChapmanhggdh oh i see, awesome I might just do that then :-)22:16
hggdhDanChapman: and, methinks, xnox might be willing to help you navigate to it22:17
xnoxDanChapman: "Contributing Developer" is essentially Ubuntu Membership + A badge that you are a contributing developer.22:18
xnoxDanChapman: i think the only "added" benefit is by default access to bugsquad team or something like that. There is no upload rights.22:18
* DanChapman likes badges22:19
xnoxDanChapman: i think it should be trivial to receive Contributing Developer. stgraber - how does one get contributing developer, if they are ubuntu member already, and said person contributes like 3k LOC to ubiquity? =)22:19
xnoxstgraber: can you just add him please? =)22:20
JoseGutierrezthe meeting to apply for membership and ended?22:20
TheLordOfTimeJoseGutierrez: quick and dirty it was, but to apply for membership you have to add your name for consideration ahead of time i think...22:21
TheLordOfTime(I dunno, though, been a while since i had to fiddle with applying for membership xD)22:21
DanChapmanxnox, well I will apply for the next meeting if I need to. See what stgraber says first ;-)22:21
JoseGutierrezTheLordOfTime https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards/SittingMembers    I was on the list but apparently touched another day22:24
TheLordOfTimeah22:24
TheLordOfTimeJoseGutierrez: missed that, but yeah you missed the meeting :)22:25
* TheLordOfTime just lurks in here BTW... :)22:25
TheLordOfTimeshort summary, this vote:22:25
TheLordOfTime[13/11/07 17:09:58] <meetingology> Voting ended on: DanChapman  to obtain Ubuntu Membership22:25
TheLordOfTime[13/11/07 17:09:58] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:022:25
TheLordOfTime[13/11/07 17:09:58] <meetingology> Motion carried22:25
JoseGutierrezTheLordOfTime arrive on time but apparently they had finished another day will be as according to time conversion teniaque be present at 17:00 hours of Colombia22:29
JoseGutierrezthe next meeting to apply for membership when is it?22:30
hggdhJoseGutierrez: first Thrusday of the month for the 2200 UTC, third Wednesday for the 1200 UTC22:31
JoseGutierrezubuntera family thanks :)22:33
hggdhJoseGutierrez: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards for more details22:33
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JoseGutierrezok22:34
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