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[13:24] <Legendario> Hi, I've made a simple package and uploaded to my ppa. I'd like some feedback. Can anyone help me? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1173327
[13:25] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1173327 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] fonts-oflb-gnutypewriter" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
[13:25] <cjwatson> Legendario: I suggest going through the Debian Fonts Team and getting it into Debian
[13:25] <cjwatson> They're fairly active AFAIK
[13:26] <Legendario> cjwatson, any useful url? I'm more used to the ubuntu community
[13:27] <cjwatson> I guess https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts is a good place to start
[13:28] <cjwatson> Links to the fonts packaging policy, the alioth project, etc.
[13:28] <cjwatson> https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts/PackagingPolicy
[13:29] <Legendario> cjwatson, hum... cool. I'll take a look at that
[13:35] <Legendario> cjwatson, how is the policy for new packages? Do they strictly need to get into debian first or can they make the opposite way?
[13:36] <cjwatson> Legendario: They don't *strictly*, but we strongly encourage them to go into Debian first.
[13:37] <cjwatson> If they do then (a) that benefits more people and (b) they will automatically get into Ubuntu without any extra review being required.
[14:23] <sreedevi> Hello, I am working on a minor bug in launchpad, I submitted a proposal to merge my branch to the main branch. This is pending for review, Could anyone please help me with this?
[14:48] <mapreri> hypera1r: do you want to upload the fixed nautilus-dropbox package to saucy-proposed? (I subscribed the sponsors anyway)
[14:54] <mitya57> Mirv: do you have anything against /me uploading a qtsensors merge with Debian (5.1.1-2ubuntu1)?
[14:54] <mitya57> I need the renamed -dev package for my PyQt5 sync
[14:54] <mitya57> oops, wrong channel
[15:44] <hypera1r> mapreri: eh yeah sure
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[17:01] <Legendario> hi, since ubuntu recommends people to submit packages to debian, in order to get them into Ubuntu, is it possible to use a PPA to test the Debian builds?
[17:04] <mitya57> Legendario: PPAs don't always match the Debian environment, it's better to use a tool like pbuilder for that
[17:07] <Legendario> mitya57, do you know if I can mix ubuntu and debian control files like I do to make multiples packages for diferent dists. Eg. saucy, raring, etc.
[17:15] <mitya57> Legendario: I don't understand the question. You of course can put whatever you want in the changelog, and control files are independent of the distro.
[17:17] <Legendario> mitya57, I can upload a package with multiple control files in order to build it for multiple versions. Eg. control.saucy, control.raring, control. control.quantal
[17:17] <Legendario> can I mix those with a control.unstable?
[17:18] <mitya57> That sounds like a Launchpad-specific hack I didn't know of. But Launchpad doesn't support Debian at all — so no.
[17:19] <Legendario> mitya57, ok. thanks! :-) That would be a great feature though since it's the recommended path to get a package into ubuntu
[17:20] <mitya57> I think Launchpad will never support Debian. There is a much bigger chance that Debian creates its own PPA system.
[17:22] <Legendario> mitya57, that would be also a great stuff. PPAs make packaging and distribution of software much easier. Is the ppa system part of the open source Launchpad app?
[17:24] <mitya57> I think yes, but it's practically impossible to create a Launchpad instance different from launchpad.net..
[17:29] <Legendario> mitya57, I don't believe so... I know a launchpad developer and she told me anyone can install your own instance  and that it's pretty much modular
[17:30] <Legendario> and it seems that it could be a lot easier for debian to have it's own ppa system if ubuntu one is open sourced
[17:32] <mitya57> Legendario: I googled and found https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/ which looks like a Launchpad instance with Debian support
[17:33]  * ogra_ wonders if you guys are aware of the #launchpad channel next door ;)
[17:39] <Legendario> mitya57, where have you found it has debian support? I can't find it
[17:45] <cjwatson> You *can* install your own instance, but it's a giant amount of work
[17:46] <cjwatson> If you just want to build a few Debian packages, just use sbuild - way easier
[17:52] <mitya57> $(whatCjwatsonSaid), and ignore the previous link — project looks dead
[17:54] <cjwatson> launchpad-buildd is just a smart-ish wrapper around sbuild, after all (admittedly an old version, but that's a bug)
[17:54] <cjwatson> the publication is harder work, but Debian already knows pretty well how to publish archives ;-)
[17:56] <cjwatson> control.$release isn't a Launchpad-specific hack; it's some kind of hack specific to a particular package.
[17:56] <cjwatson> And it's a bad idea since lots of things assume debian/control exists before any code in the package runs.
[17:57] <cjwatson> You're better off trying to ensure that debian/control matches for all releases you care about, and if you can't do that then use a VCS to maintain separate branches.
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