[00:00] <FireBeard> rightclick
[00:00] <set_> hi
[00:00] <bekks> amms: ls -lha directoryname
[00:00] <zykotick9> amms: "ls -ld foo"
[00:01] <adam_> Anyone know if there's a current ppa for vagrant?
[00:01] <ianmac1> There used to be a way to show extended perms upon right click in Nautilus, but I forgot how to implement that. Does gconf editor still exist? How does one find and set extended settings?
[00:02] <nilvando> Alguien tendría algún material sobre cómo montar sala de ordenadores con Ubuntu?
[00:02] <darth_damian_000> Trying to upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10. I did if through software updater, but nothing happens (It says there is an upgrade available, I see 13.10 release notes, the OS "downloads 2 files" and nothing happens afterwards). I try to do it through the terminal do-release-upgrade ... there are lots of errors and the upgrade is aborted. Can anyone help?
[00:03] <ianmac1> !es | nilvando
[00:03] <ianmac1> !es | nilvando
[00:03] <nilvando> si
[00:03] <FireBeard> darth_damian_000: I would not even bother
[00:04] <bekks> adam_: Vagrant ships .deb
[00:04] <amms> is possible to set, automatically, to some files rwx and for anothers -rw?
[00:04] <FireBeard> if this is your default install, get 12.04
[00:04] <sabgenton> bekks: after deleting I ran while : ; do tail -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock; done   in one terminal while apt-get installing in another
[00:04] <darth_damian_000> FireBeard, what do you mean? Why not?
[00:04] <sabgenton> the file was never created
[00:04] <amms> in the umask, i.e.
[00:04] <sabgenton> never tailed
[00:04] <darth_damian_000> Have you had the same issues?
[00:05] <Techman> Hello guys
[00:05] <Techman> I have an issue with procps
[00:05] <Techman> http://dpaste.com/1445903/
[00:05] <FireBeard> darth_damian_000: modern non-LTS versions have a life span of 9 months
[00:05] <xangua> !behelpful | FireBeard
[00:05] <Techman> Tried apt-get -f or whatever and that didn't work.
[00:05] <FireBeard> also, cut down your fucking nick
[00:05] <xangua> !language | FireBeard
[00:05] <FireBeard> xangua: I am behing helpful
[00:05] <sabgenton> bekks: opps my bad no sudo
[00:06] <FireBeard> if not, then not
[00:06] <FireBeard> fact remains: 9 months support per non-LTS release
[00:06] <FireBeard> which is idiotic
[00:06] <Techman> Anyone know how to fix this issue? If I can't find a way to fix this I can just reinstall the hub server.
[00:07] <darth_damian_000> So, no resolution to the problem I'm having, instead, you recommend I downgrade to 12.04 LTS ?
[00:07] <FireBeard> a 9 month lifespan is useless
[00:07] <FireBeard> darth_damian_000: yes
[00:07] <FireBeard> sorry
[00:07] <FireBeard> that is MY solution
[00:08] <FireBeard> the LTS will get updated to modern standards, without all the non-LTS hassle...
[00:08] <FireBeard> so yes
[00:08] <darth_damian_000> Thanks, FireBeard
[00:08] <FireBeard> :)
[00:08] <darth_damian_000> Too late to shorten my nick, I suppose
[00:08] <FireBeard> the point is
[00:09] <nilvando> anyone have suggestions for models of computer science laboratories with ubuntu
[00:09] <FireBeard> modern non LTS versions only have a 9 month life span
[00:09] <Techman> So I guess no one is available to help huh?
[00:09] <FireBeard> which, to me is completely useless
[00:10] <FireBeard> nilvando: depends on the hardware
[00:11] <amms> how do i change a directory user/owner using umask?
[00:11] <amms> is this possible?
[00:11] <FireBeard> it should not be
[00:11] <zykotick9> amms: it's not possible with umask (that for default permissions).  man chmod
[00:11] <FireBeard> but who knows in Ubu world
[00:12] <amms> what i want to do is mount a partition in log in
[00:12] <amms> but with my user being the owner..
[00:12] <amms> not the root (what i can do..)
[00:12] <nilvando> FireBeard: Understand, and currently teach with ruindows intend to reformulate the laboratory with ubuntu, but I'm having trouble finding material on the subject
[00:12] <FireBeard> :?
[00:13] <bekks> amms: Mount it as root, change permissions to your user, and add an fstab entry to always mount it.
[00:13] <amms> hm.. so how could i do it bekks? change the permissions with a script, for example?
[00:14] <bekks> amms: You only need to do it once.
[00:14] <maujhsn_maujhsn2>  /ns resetpass maujhsn maujhsn209@hotmail.com
[00:14] <FireBeard> /
[00:15] <amms> bekks: ok, i'll try to change the permissions now, with chown..
[00:15] <FireBeard> nobody will act on that, if it was indeed a boo-boo
[00:15] <FireBeard> just reset it again
[00:15] <FireBeard> you be golden
[00:15] <zykotick9> amms: what sort of file system is this?
[00:15] <amms> ntfs
[00:16] <Techman> Nevermind guys I fixed it
[00:16] <Techman> I download procps from launchpad directly and installed the package :)
[00:16] <zykotick9> amms: chown/chmod isn't gonna do anything for you.  it's all how you mount it.  i don't know the details - good luck.  (use a real POSIX filesystem for better results)
[00:17] <amms> zykotick9: thanks..
[00:23] <DiceDingus> I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 13.10, and every time I try to open gnome-control-center it crashes with a segmentation fault.
[00:23] <DiceDingus> Never run into anything like that,does anyone know how to fix it?
[00:25] <ianmac1> DiceDingus, what about System Settings from the ubuntu menu?
[00:26] <DiceDingus> ianmac1: That's the first place I tried to run it from. Doesn't work.
[00:26] <ianmac1> ouch
[00:27] <sabgenton> bekks, I'm on LTS and every time I delete it and then run apt-get install something it persists afterwards
[00:27] <ianmac1> since it's a fresh copy, I'd just do a reinstall rather than spending time trying to fix it. No telling what else was messed up
[00:27] <supNow>  I am having issues sharing folders through the right click context menu "sharing options" I get an error 255 and it requests this change 'Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"
[00:27] <supNow> 	to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this.' but that does not exist in the file?
[00:28] <sabgenton> hitsujiTMO: what part of that wiki applys to the lock file?
[00:28] <root> hello
[00:28] <ianmac1> DiceDingus,  since it's a fresh copy, I'd just do a reinstall rather than spending time trying to fix it. No telling what else was messed up
[00:28] <root> hi
[00:28] <emre_ozdn> hi
[00:28] <hydester> hey,  i had a udev rule for adb for android which worked until i upgraded to 13.10.  any ideas on why?
[00:28] <emre_ozdn> help me
[00:29] <ianmac1> !help | emre_ozdn
[00:29] <emre_ozdn> dpkg: error: `/var/lib/dpkg/status' paket bilgi dosyasını okumaya çalışırken hata oluştu: Böyle bir dosya ya da dizin yok
[00:29] <emre_ozdn> help me :/
[00:29] <tripelb2> I have wifi tethered from my phone. Can I get something on my panel that will show me the state, other than "connected" which persists for a long time so isnt a good indicator. I have 12.04 gnome
[00:29] <bekks> sabgenton: Then you are interrupting it somehow in the middle of the work.
[00:30] <bekks> sabgenton: And you should run sudo apt-get ...
[00:30] <yofun> How Do I see the current open terminals?
[00:32] <tripelb2> How much free disk space does ubuntu 12.04 need. How do I see how much ram I have? I used ot know.
[00:32] <bekks> tripelb2: "free -m"
[00:33] <sabgenton> bekks: nope delete lockfile >> run sudo apt-get install someting
[00:33] <sabgenton> check after back at prompt
[00:33] <tripelb2> emre there are other channels for different languages. type in !xx |emre to find out where to go when xx is the 2 letter code for your language.
[00:33] <sabgenton> file still there
[00:33] <bekks> sabgenton: Then check wether other processes of your package management system are still running.
[00:34] <amms> finally, i found. to mount as owner a ntfs just "udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/sda4".. thanks for those who try to help me :)
[00:34] <ianmac1> sabgenton, minimized Synaptic? terminal running apt-get somewhere?
[00:34] <amms> i'm really happy now, bye xD
[00:34] <emre_ozdn> dpkg: error: `/var/lib/dpkg/status' An error occurred while trying to read the package information file: No such file or directory
[00:34] <sabgenton> IanHernandez:nope only just turn computer on before coming here
[00:35] <emre_ozdn> please help me!
[00:35] <emre_ozdn> No such file or directory
[00:35] <emre_ozdn> dpkg: error: `/var/lib/dpkg/status' An error occurred while trying to read the package information file: No such file or directory
[00:35] <sabgenton> sudo pgrep apt-get
[00:35] <sabgenton> no results
[00:35] <sabgenton> don't use synaptic
[00:36] <tripelb2> How much free disk space does ubuntu 12.04 need. thanks bekks I have 999 total72 free swat 392 of 1019 free --- I had to kill chrome cause it was grinding to a halt. But the hexchat had gone dead.
[00:36] <emre_ozdn> is need to
[00:36] <tripelb2> bekks I have 3.x G of hard ddrive free.
[00:37] <sabgenton> IanHernandez: I just want to know if the mechanism is 'if file exists' or  'if file is locked somehow' (and what the lock is)
[00:37] <bekks> sabgenton: ps aux | grep dpkg
[00:37] <bekks> sabgenton: I told you how that lock works.
[00:37] <sabgenton> nope
[00:37] <emre_ozdn> help me! :/
[00:37] <bekks> sabgenton: I did. Read the back log again please.
[00:37] <ianmac1> !patience | emre_ozdn
[00:39] <Foxhoundz> !ask | ubottu
[00:39] <Foxhoundz> aww
[00:40] <Foxhoundz> I thought it would blow in a recursion
[00:40] <Foxhoundz> oh well
[00:40] <sabgenton> bekks: xchat seems to have taild it  :(
[00:40] <bekks> sabgenton: So whats the output of "ps aux | grep dpkg"?
[00:40] <ianmac1> Foxhoundz, Trying to kill the bot?! the person who programmed that bot wasn't stupid. Perhaps avoid malicious intent in the future.
[00:41] <Foxhoundz> ianmac1, he/she would only have themselves to blame for bad coding :3
[00:41] <sabgenton> bekks:just picks up the grep ran in the pipe
[00:41] <bekks> sabgenton: Then you are safe to remove the lockfile.
[00:42] <bekks> sabgenton: Do you use things like the update manage, which might be running, etc.?
[00:42] <sabgenton> yes I have removed it quit a few times
[00:42] <bekks> sabgenton: Or synaptic, or muon, or something like that?
[00:42] <sabgenton> no It only gets recreated after I run apt-get install
[00:43] <sabgenton> so it's apt get that' recreating (but not removing) it
[00:43] <sabgenton> must be
[00:43] <bekks> sabgenton: apt is calling dpkg ...
[00:43] <maujhsn> bekks Luv your free flow of information! Using a 12.04 liveUSB its sluggish & i need to purge packages!
[00:43] <bekks> maujhsn: What do I have to do with it then? :)
[00:43] <sabgenton> ok then it's dpkg via apt-gets request
[00:44] <maujhsn> bekks Check this out: http://pastebin.com/a4WJZ3D2
[00:44] <bekks> maujhsn: Why?
[00:44] <bekks> maujhsn: How about asking a precise question about a specific issue?
[00:45] <maujhsn> bekks Its that free -m command?
[00:45] <bekks> maujhsn: Yes, you asked on how to see how much RAM you have.
[00:45] <bekks> "Mem:" and "total" tell you how much MB you have.
[00:45] <sabgenton> bekks: I do  apologise (my history got cut) what is the mecanism that makes programs no the file is locked?
[00:46] <bekks> sabgenton: The existence of the lockfile is the notification for other programs that the package management system is currently locked.
[00:46] <sabgenton> is it a lock file in the true sence (not normal done in linux)  or is it 'if file exists etc'
[00:46] <sabgenton> bekks, ah ok thanks
[00:46] <bekks> sabgenton: Whats a "lockfile in the true sence"?
[00:46] <sabgenton> I will check this out on other ubuntu systems
[00:47] <sabgenton> bekks: I was thinking of windows  how you can delete a file thats in use
[00:47] <bekks> sabgenton: Those are filelocks, which you are mixing up with lockfiles.
[00:48] <Nate_> can anyone help me with a monitor issue
[00:48] <sabgenton> ah right thanks for liberating  me there
[00:49] <sabgenton> bekks: I will have to see this in another ubuntu install
[00:49] <xangua> how can I edit the quicklist displayed in the icons at the unity launcher¿
[00:50] <sabgenton> I'm gona restart this pc just incase anyways
[00:53] <maujhsn>  /ns list
[00:53] <Thunderkey> quit
[00:54] <vacho> anyone here running web servers ?? specifically with webmin/virtualmin?
[00:55] <savetheinternet> http://stopnerds.org/gnu-and-stalinism/
[00:55] <sabgenton> bekks: what befuddles me now is that as my lock file never gets deleted  how come I can still apt-get install things....
[00:56] <xangua> !ot | savetheinternet
[00:56] <sabgenton> bekks: so sudo tail /var/lib/dpkg/lock says no such file for you?
[00:57] <Guest79999> Can anyone help with installing NVIDIA drivers and setting up dual monitors on 12.04 LTS?
[00:57] <bekks> sabgenton: that file will always be empty, and always readable by all users. So bot sudo and tail are useless.
[00:57] <bekks> *both
[00:57] <sabgenton> bekks well then sudo file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:58] <ianmac1> sabgenton, you don't need sudo for that file. avoid using sudo unless you really need it
[00:58] <deezed> Guest79999: yes, whats the problem?
[00:59] <blacklist> hello i have one problem whit xubuntu 13.10
[00:59] <bekks> sabgenton: ls /var/lib/dpkg/lock is sufficient. "file" will not return usable output since taht file is empty.
[00:59] <Guest79999> @deezed, I have the .run file downloaded but I can't seem to install it right and ubuntu isn't detecting my 2nd monitor
[00:59] <ianmac1> blacklist, you need to be in #xubuntu, I believe
[01:00] <sabgenton> bekks: Yeah no I just mean right now does ls return the file does not exist in your case?
[01:00] <blacklist> ianmac1, this is problem : W: Impossibile recuperare gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_saucy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages  Somma hash non corrispondente
[01:00] <sabgenton> assuming your not using apt-get /synaptic /dpkg
[01:00] <ianmac1> blacklist, you need to be in #xubuntu, I believe
[01:01] <deezed> Guest79999: which .run file?
[01:01] <sabgenton> I just find it strange that my lock file still exists but sudo apt-get isntall work fine anyway
[01:01] <ianmac1> sabgenton, my lock file exists and the package managers work fine
[01:01] <deezed> Guest74251: you can install all the nvidia packages with the ubuntu default driver installer
[01:01] <Xero73> deezed, it's the .run file I downloaded from NVIDIA for drivers
[01:02] <deezed> Xero73:  you can install all the nvidia packages with the ubuntu default driver installer
[01:02] <sabgenton> ianmac1: ah so even when your not apt-get ing   you still have a lock file
[01:02] <sabgenton> ?
[01:02] <ianmac1> sabgenton, correct (had to check to see if the pm was runing, it's not)
[01:02] <deezed> Xero73: you dont have to download anything from a website
[01:02] <Xero73> deezed: how do I do that?
[01:03] <Xero73> deezed: software center?
[01:03] <deezed> Xero73: launch your "additional drivers" and add it
[01:03] <deezed> Xero73: no, its not the software center
[01:03] <sabgenton> ianmac1: you see at this point I start to question reality :)
[01:03] <Xero73> deezed: ok I am launching "additional drivers" now
[01:04] <deezed> Xero73: ok, and install nvidia packages
[01:04] <ianmac1> sabgenton, /var/lib/dpkg/lock shows up as binary on my system, rather than ascii
[01:04] <deezed> there will be some different packs like the beta group, and an advanced one, I would suggest the recommended
[01:05] <Xero73> deezed: should this fix my 2nd monitor not being detected>
[01:05] <deezed> Xero73: I think so
[01:05] <sabgenton> ianmac1: hmm I'm on LTS and its always empty
[01:05] <deezed> Xero73: just remember to reboot it before try
[01:06] <ianmac1> sabgenton, yes, it's always empty, but it shows up here as a binary file rather than an ascii file
[01:06] <sabgenton> implemention change maybe?
[01:06] <sabgenton> oh
[01:06] <Xero73> deezed: it says the recommended is activated but not currently in use
[01:06] <sabgenton> ianmac1: what tells you that, the file command?
[01:06] <deezed> Xero73: so select it to be in use, can you?
[01:06] <ianmac1> sabgenton, i.e. I couldn't open it in gedit even if I had perms to do so
[01:07] <sabgenton>  file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:07] <sabgenton> ?
[01:07] <Xero73> deezed: doesn't look like it. only remove, help, and close buttons
[01:07] <ianmac1> sabgenton, nautilus, right click that file and go to "Properties"
[01:07] <Guest31945> Trying to install Phusion Passenger, and it gives me this message:
[01:07] <Guest31945> Compiling Phusion Passenger works best when you have at least 1024 MB of virtual
[01:07] <Guest31945> memory. However your system only has 491 MB of total virtual memory (491 MB
[01:07] <Guest31945> RAM, 0 MB swap). It is recommended that you temporarily add more swap space
[01:07] <deezed> Xero73: which driver is currently in use?
[01:08] <Xero73> deezed: it says none are
[01:08] <ianmac1> sabgenton, Type: Binary (application/octet-stream)
[01:08] <Guest31945> It then suggests running these commands to give my VPS more swap space:  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap bs=1M count=1024
[01:08] <Guest31945>   sudo mkswap /swap
[01:08] <Guest31945>   sudo swapon /swap
[01:08] <Guest31945> First question, how do I revert my system to what it was like after the install of passenger?
[01:08] <Thunderkey> i keep getting (gedit:13598): Warning when trying to use gedit.  any suggestions?
[01:09] <rypervenche> Guest31945: Enjoy killing the other VPS users when you start swapping :D
[01:09] <Guest31945> Second question, is swap space basically virtual ram?
[01:10] <Xero73> deezed: still there?
[01:10] <ianmac1> sabgenton, tHIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE i ATTRIBUTE IT TO.. "MAGIC", LOL
[01:10] <Guest31945> rypervenche: What do you mean? :L Surely I'm using my own VPS' hd for swap space?
[01:10] <deezed> Thunderkey: did you do something with uid recently?
[01:10] <ianmac1> silly laptop keyboard.
[01:10] <sabgenton> :)
[01:11] <sabgenton> hehe
[01:11] <deezed> Xero73: yes, I'm trying to find something. But did you google how to check which driver are you using?
[01:11] <Thunderkey> deezed: not that i can remember.  this is a pretty fresh install...about 14 hours ago of 13.10 64bit
[01:11] <Guest31945> Third question, shall not tweak swap space and just install phusion passenger?
[01:12] <Guest31945> This isn't recommended
[01:12] <Xero73> deezed: No, just it says at the top of the window, "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[01:12] <Thunderkey> deezed: i first noticed it when i was trying to install Scrivener (novel writing software) and I was supposed to edit a file and got that error.
[01:12] <deezed> Xero73: so try to reinstall it maybe
[01:13] <Xero73> Thunderkey: I thought Scrivener was only for Windows and Mac?
[01:13] <deezed> Thunderkey: uhm. So I think thats the problem. You might have changed something related to who actually owns each files..
[01:13] <Thunderkey> xero73: they have a linux beta.
[01:14] <Xero73> Thunderkey: Awesome now I gotta go try it.
[01:14] <deezed> Xero73: but you can try a lspci | grep VGA
[01:14] <Thunderkey> deezed: how would i go about resetting the ownership?
[01:14] <Xero73> deezed: I just removed the driver to try activating it again, you wanted me to run that in terminal?
[01:15] <deezed> Xero73: that would be to check your graphic hardware
[01:15] <ianmac1> How do I disable the capslock key? tried keyboard settings and didn't see it.
[01:15] <Guest31945> I'm installing nginx and it goes: Where do you want to install Nginx to?
[01:15] <Guest31945> Please specify a prefix directory [/opt/nginx]:
[01:16] <Guest31945> does this mean, when I hit enter, it will be installed to what appears to be the default location of /opt/nginx ?
[01:16] <deezed> Thunderkey: its not about reset the ownership I think
[01:16] <Xero73> deezed: looks like it is recognizing my card properly
[01:16] <Thunderkey> deezed: okay, then what do you suggest?
[01:16] <deezed> Thunderkey: can you try to run libreoffice writer or any related and see if it comes out with the same message?
[01:17] <threex5> hi, I made an ubuntu instal usb and when i boot from it, I can choose to install or run it, but either way the screen goes black after that. Thing is, I hear the Ubuntu drum --- I just can't see anything
[01:17] <Thunderkey> deezed: i ran libreoffice from terminal and it starts right up.
[01:17] <deezed> Thunderkey: what about from gui?
[01:18] <Thunderkey> deezed: starts right up.
[01:18] <deezed> ianmac1: did you try to google it?
[01:18] <FireBeard> oh, am I here?
[01:18] <Thunderkey> deezed: no error messages or anything.
[01:18] <lotus-blade> can sound be enabled on server edition of 12.04?
[01:18] <deezed> Thunderkey: uhm... can you try to run gedit as sudo? (just to check)
[01:18] <FireBeard> wtf?
[01:19] <deezed> FireBeard: what?
[01:19] <bekks> deezed: use gksudo for graphical applications.
[01:19] <Xero73> deezed: I'm gonna re-activate and reboot and try it. I'll be back if it still isn't working. If it does, then thanks in advance
[01:19] <deezed> bekks: true
[01:19] <FireBeard> no server editions have any sound enabled... :?
[01:19] <ianmac1> deezed, Not yet, the folks in this channel are faster and smarter than google. Besides, people don't come here to be told to "google it", that defeats the purpose of this channel.
[01:19] <deezed> Xero73: ok, no problem
[01:19] <Thunderkey> deezed: please see output here...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373817/
[01:20] <FireBeard> that would be ridiculous
[01:20] <deezed> ianmac1: the point is that I dont actually know the imadiate question, but google could clarify us....
[01:21] <ianmac1> deezed, true
[01:23] <deezed> ianmac1: besides, I think one of the ubuntu channel advices in its rules is "try to google it before ask". LoL ;)
[01:23] <deezed> so Thunderkey, is gedit the only software you have this problem?
[01:24] <Thunderkey> deezed: yep, the only one.  everything else is working great.
[01:24] <ianmac1> deezed, I highly doubt the rules state to google before asking here. IF that were true then there would be no need for this channel
[01:28] <deezed> ianmac1: sorry to disagree with you. I do think this channel can help people, which does not mean that these people can not try looking for the answer of their question before come here. And I do think that most of simple questions you can find easier in google than to wait someone
[01:28] <mnathani> whats the best way to add multiple ipv6 addresses in the networking config?
[01:28] <xero73> deezed: I'm getting the same thing unfortunately
[01:28] <deezed> Thunderkey: since when its going on?
[01:29] <Thunderkey> deezed: since I tried to install Scrivener, that is when I first noticed it.  Haven't had to use gedit before then.  Like a said, this install is only 14 hours old.
[01:30] <deezed> Thunderkey: so you already rebooted it sometimes?
[01:30] <Thunderkey> deezed: yep, three times if i am not mistaken.
[01:30] <deezed> xero73: what about to select the advanced one?
[01:31] <rlw96> Any advice on how to access the USB drive (HP notebook) with an application under Wine? Specifically robot c.
[01:31] <xero73> deezed: There isn't an advanced one, only version 304, 304 post release, 319, and 319 post release
[01:32] <StRandEd> HEY ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THE BEST WAY TO DOWNLOAD BACKTRACK
[01:33] <deezed> Thunderkey: its really strange, can you pastebin the output of the message you're receiving?
[01:33] <xero73> deezed: it also seems that it thinks I'm running on a laptop, under settings for detecting displays it labeled my main monitor as Laptop
[01:34] <xero73> StRandEd: Kali is the most updated one, but if you want backtrack or kali go to the official site at offensivesecurity.com
[01:34] <Thunderkey> deezed: here is the pastebin output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373873/
[01:35] <Thunderkey> deezed: also, now when I type it, i get the error message, but gedit does start now.
[01:35] <LjL> StRandEd: it's probably not shouting in an unrelated channel, but other than that, not sure
[01:36] <deezed> Thunderkey: are you trying to launch it to open a specific file?
[01:37] <xero73> deezed: find out anything by chance?
[01:37] <deezed> xero73: I dont think I did
[01:37] <Thunderkey> deezed: i was, now i am just trying to open it blank
[01:37] <deezed> xero73: are you using unity?
[01:37] <deezed> Thunderkey: so?
[01:38] <xero73> deezed: yes, I'd prefer gnome but it appears that isn't really an option anymore
[01:38] <Thunderkey> deezed: like i said, it comes up now, but i still get the error that i put in pastebin.
[01:38] <Thunderkey> deezed: i think i am going to restart again and check and if that doesn't work, i will get back on.  thanks for your help :)
[01:39] <deezed> Thunderkey: ok
[01:39] <deezed> xero73: I truly prefer kde actually
[01:41] <xero73> deezed: either is better than unity in my opinion but anything that might help with this?
[01:41] <deezed> xero73: ok, did you try to run a different system in your machine?
[01:41] <deezed> xero73: even a live cd?
[01:42] <Thunderkey> deezed: i'm back.  the restart worked, no more error messages on gedit.  thanks again for your help.
[01:42] <xero73> deezed: the live cd is what I used to install and it does the same
[01:42] <deezed> Thunderkey: no problem! =)
[01:43] <deezed> xero73: uhm, funny. It seems to be something with ubuntu/unity and your pc configs, not properly with drivers
[01:43] <deezed> xero73: did you try with another distro?
[01:43] <xero73> deezed: no I haven't actually
[01:45] <deezed> xero73: I think the problem could be both: the compatibility btween your pc configs and ubuntu/unity; or a hardware issue. checking with another distro can maybe discard the second option
[01:45] <xero73> deezed: heck Mint might be better for me but last time I had it installed I couldn't figure out how to reformat windows back over it for like 2 days
[01:45] <deezed> xero73: really? what was the issue?
[01:46] <deezed> xero73: and btw, Mint is ubuntu-based, so its not the best one to check our shoot
[01:46] <xero73> deezed: I had to format using a live cd before running windows install
[01:47] <deezed> xero73: lol, I never heard about it.
[01:47] <deezed> xero73: I have to go...
[01:48] <deezed> good luck!
[01:48] <threex5> is anyone else having problems using the new sso system to get into ubuntuforums.org?
[01:48] <xero73> deezed: ok thanks
[01:48] <threex5> it's telling me my username can be no less than 3 characters, even though its 11 characters long
[01:48] <LarrySteeze> So what am I doing wrong when I type 'cp -ax /media/My\ Book/'?
[01:49] <Guest31945> On my local machine, my home directory contains Desktop  Documents  Downloads  examples.desktop  local  Music  node-latest-install  Pictures  Public  Templates  tmp  Videos
[01:49] <LarrySteeze> oh I think I got it figured out
[01:50] <Guest31945> On my vps, my home directory is empty, apart from some invisible files
[01:50] <Guest31945> does this mean, in my vps root user's home directory, I can mkdir a directory to store my projects in?
[01:51] <xuloplaya> hi
[01:51] <xuloplaya> im trying to share my internet with dhcp server but it doesnt work
[01:52] <xuloplaya> anyone could help me please?
[01:52] <wafflejock> xuloplaya: are you running an ubuntu machine as a linux server or using a router?
[01:52] <wafflejock> !details | xuloplaya
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> xuloplaya: can you please re-phase your question. what do you have and what do you want
[01:53] <xero73> Can anyone continue helping me with my graphic driver issue/dual monitor setup
[01:53] <Foxhoundz> What GPU?
[01:53] <xero73> NVIDIA 9800 gt
[01:54] <Foxhoundz> ugh
[01:54] <xero73> agreed
[01:54] <xuloplaya> im using a debian distro and i want to configure my dhcp server to share my internet conection from my debian
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: could help if you told us what the issue was
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> xuloplaya: this is #ubuntu support. maybe try #debian for debian support
[01:55] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: sorry was making sure someone could help, the additional drivers utility shows no proprietary drivers are in use and I have the recommended ones activated
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: can you post you Xorg.0.log
[01:56] <threex5> So I just got an msi slidebook s20 and it looks like the liveusb installer won't work because it doesn't have drivers for the display.. what can I do to move forward?
[01:56] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: it also shows under displays that my main monitor is labeled "Laptop" and I'm on a desktop
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: what drivers did you activate
[01:56] <xero73> version
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: yes
[01:57] <xuloplaya> well, what i want is just to share my conection with dhcp server i dnt mater if debian or ubuntu
[01:57] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: version 319
[01:57] <xuloplaya> im also trying to do it in ubuntu and doesnt works for me
[01:57] <parad0xx> hi, I just installed 12.04 lts on an old xp box, dual boot, but ubuntu doesn't see my 2nd hard drive, xp still sees it fine, any ideas?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> xuloplaya: yes it does. different base software. different basic configs. different packages in the repos
[01:57] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: how do I find and post the log? terminal?
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | threex5 start with trying nomodeset
[02:01] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: ok I ran that and installed now what?
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: can you post the link it generated here
[02:02] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373946/
[02:02] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the tip, but when I boot from USB, I get the text-only boot menu and f6 doesn't work there
[02:02] <parad0xx> I'm kind of a *nix novice, so not exactly sure what I'm doing
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: when you've highlighted "Try ubuntu" hit e and you can add in the nomodeset that way
[02:03] <threex5> ah, thanks hitsujiTMO
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: can you also give me the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA          and: cat /etc/issue
[02:04] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, can i just go to a new line and type nomodeset? I did go on the usb and go to syslinux/txt.cfg
[02:05] <threex5> and on here, hitsujiTMO, on line 5 I added nomodeset -- but this didn't make a difference
[02:05] <threex5> oh
[02:05] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GT] [10de:0614] (rev a2) and Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: append nomodeset after quiet splash
[02:06] <threex5> nevermmind, hitsujiTMO, I see where the flag is supposed to go: on the second line, right before 'quiet splash --'
[02:06] <threex5> ok thanks hitsujiTMO
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: something gone wrong with loading the nvidia module. can you give me: dmesg | pastebinit
[02:07] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I am in business. thanks so much
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: you'll need nomodeset each boot until you get the drivers installed
[02:07] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373966/
[02:08] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, thanks. maybe I spoke too soon, because I did get the logo when it was loading, then a command line full of commands, and now a blank screen again
[02:09] <threex5> nevermind, hitsujiTMO. I booted again, but this time used the 'install ubuntu' option with the flag you recommended and now I can get to the install menu
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: try acpi=off    instead of nomodeset            is this a haswell cpu?
[02:10] <XMLnewbi> what the command for moving all the files in a folder up a level?  mv * .. or something
[02:11] <XMLnewbi> lol, nm
[02:11] <guest0000001> hi.  i am trying to delete every other partition on my hard drive except for windows 7, and then install ubuntu 13.10 alongside windows..  i am booted into the live usb now, and selected try ubuntu..  then i openned gparted..  i deleted my two linux filesystems, however, i am unable to delete sdb3, which is an extended partition, containing 1.00 GiB linux swap, and the 192.73 GiB unallocated space...  can someone help me to delete
[02:11] <guest0000001>  the extended partition?  it has an icon of a key next to it
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, You have to delete the swap inside.
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: seems that driver doesn't support that card. remove it and install the 304
[02:12] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: Thanks I'll try that and reboot and let you know
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: the relevant lines in your dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6373978/
[02:13] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, thanks
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, unmount the swap of needed.
[02:13] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, it worked after i right clicked the swap, and selected swap-off
[02:13] <guest0000001> then it let me delete the swap, and then the ext part.
[02:13] <guest0000001> thanks
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: you should report that as a bug considering that aditional softeware should not have offered you an unsupported driver
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[02:14] <xero73> hitsujiTM0: Will do thanks, just it seems now my system is running slow
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: hopefully will be back to normal when you get the right driver installed
[02:15] <lotus-blade> can sound be enabled on server edition of 12.04?
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: install alsa and alsa-utils
[02:15] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, i now have unalocated before and after sdb4...  is there a way to combine them?    they are 193 GB and 1.34 MB
[02:15] <lotus-blade> tried that and can not find alsamixer
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: then go into alsamixer and make sure the relevant channels arent muted
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, Lets see a screenshot of gparted in an imagebin
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: have you added yourself to the audio group?
[02:16] <lotus-blade> yes
[02:16] <guest0000001> ok, wilee-nilee
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: have you relogged so that the system sees you as being in that group?
[02:16] <lotus-blade> command not found is all i get
[02:17] <lotus-blade> have rebooted as well
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: try: sudo alsamixer
[02:17] <parad0xx> I've tried a few things, but can still just see my 1st/main/C: drive, not E:
[02:17] <lotus-blade> command not found
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: run that and paste the link it generates
[02:19] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/275997
[02:19] <mikey__> im login in rite?
[02:20] <mikey__> neo?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, So sdb2 is not showing data and has a red explanation, this is the windows OS right
[02:20] <lotus-blade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374024/
[02:21] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, yeah
[02:21] <icy`> hi, do you guys support slim now?   SLiM (Simple Login Manager)
[02:21] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, i need to run chkdsk when i restart back into windows
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: you haven't installed alsa-utils
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, YOU would need to fix it probably needs a chkdsk yeah, so what is it you want to do otherwise, keeping the partitions in order numerically from left to right looking at gparted is a important point.
[02:23] <lotus-blade> alsa-tools is already the newest version.
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: alsa-utils !!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:23] <guest0000001> wilee-nilee, i just was wondering if i am able to combine those two unalocateds into one
[02:24] <ianorlin> alsa-utils is not alsa-tools
[02:24] <lotus-blade> is there a way to force reinstall?
[02:24] <Guest31945> How can I change the background color of a terminal window?
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: INSTALL alsa-utils !!!!!!!!!
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> Guest31945: what terminal emulator?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, If it were me I would clone that sdb4 then delete it put it back in as a sdb3 next to sdb2, and make an extended in the rest for logicals.a extended
[02:25] <parad0xx> hi, I just installed 12.04 lts on an old xp box, dual boot, but ubuntu doesn't see my 2nd hard drive, xp still sees it fine, any ideas?
[02:25] <guest0000001> ok
[02:25] <guest0000001> thanks, wilee-nilee
[02:25] <parad0xx> sorry to repeat myself
[02:26] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: the dual monitors still don't work and the additional drivers utility still shows drivers aren't in use
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, Sure actually I would probably just clone the windows and remove the recovery all together, its been moved around and changing its partition number may make it a bit of a challenge to use anyway.
[02:26] <lotus-blade> ok thank you. that was what was wrong with that
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: ok, can you post Xorg.0.conf again
[02:26] <Guest31945> hitsujiTMO: Just the normal, standard, purple with white text terminal :)
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:27] <Guest31945> Would like change the background to a different color
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> guest0000001, Hard to say in general has it always been sdb4?
[02:27] <aFeijo> hi folks, is it possible to write something that will watch a file and if it is changed, copy it to another folder?
[02:27] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374051/
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> Guest31945: what distro are you using ? ubuntu xubuntu? lubuntu?
[02:28] <Guest31945> ubuntu 13.04
[02:28] <hitsujiTMO> Guest31945: edit -> profile preferences -> colours
[02:29] <Guest31945> hitsujiTMO: great, thankyou
[02:29] <Guest31945> can I switch between two themes on an existing terminal window?
[02:29] <Guest31945> right click on a window and select a second theme?
[02:30] <Guest31945> oh wait I got it
[02:30] <Guest31945> :D
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: problem with the kernel module again: can you post: dmesg | pastebinit
[02:30] <MrMonkey31> question about dev packages: so these contain some headers and like, other stuff?  is it as big a deal for installation as binary packages would be, in other words can I take dev packages from distro A and use them in distro B, or is that gonna kill me?
[02:30] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374057/
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:31] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: 12.04.3 LTS
[02:31] <huttan> MrMonkey31: If you compile it with the correct dependencies, u can use it on any dist.
[02:31] <huttan> MrMonkey31: might have to compile it again on the other tho
[02:32] <MrMonkey31> huttan: think that was for src packages; I'm talking about dev packages
[02:32] <aFeijo> hi folks, is it possible to write something that will watch a file and if it is changed, copy it to another folder?
[02:32] <huttan> MrMonkey31: oh sorry, misread some
[02:32] <lotus-blade> is there a way to set also up so that I do not have to use alsamixer everytime I reboot the system?
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: ok, remove 304, this time you need to go for the legacy 173...  nvidia-173 package
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: third times a charm
[02:33] <huttan> MrMonkey31: you should get the specific dev package for ur distro, it can have some difference in where it puts the headers etc.
[02:33] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: I don't have that as an option
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: install with the command line
[02:34] <MrMonkey31> huttan: thanks bro :)
[02:34] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: do you have a command string for that?
[02:35] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: this should do the trick:  sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-173
[02:36] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: Reading package lists... Done
[02:36] <xero73> Building dependency tree
[02:36] <xero73> Reading state information... Done
[02:36] <xero73> E: Unable to locate package nividia-304
[02:36] <xero73> xero@Xero-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-173Reading package lists... Done
[02:36] <xero73> Building dependency tree
[02:36] <FloodBot1> xero73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:36] <xero73> Reading state information... Done
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: you shouldn't need to run alsamixer after the reboot. are you having that issue?
[02:37] <lotus-blade> not yet, but I had that on my las computer
[02:37] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: you put an extra i in nvidia-304
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: i'm sure nividia is some sort of beauty product not graphics card manufacture
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> manufacturer*
[02:38] <lotus-blade> currently getting no sound either
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: have you unmuted everything?
[02:40] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374102/
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: try install nvidia-173 again
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: just: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173
[02:41] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: same issue
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: what do you get from: sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-11
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: pastebin everything please
[02:44] <joedoe47>  /join #ubuntu-us-fl 
[02:46] <MrMonkey31> lotus-blade: when I lost sound and had to reinstall alsa, I wound up going to the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and adding the line with my board's name, so: "options snd-ac79-codec index=0" where "realtek-codec" is the module name for my chip and "index=0" means the default snd source.  that could be the answer you want
[02:46] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374119/
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: can you try installing nvidia-173 now
[02:48] <MrMonkey31> ahem, that should read "options snd-realtek-codec index=0" where "realtek-codec" is the module name for my chip
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: once that's done cross your fingers and restart and hope you don't need to reinstall the system
[02:49] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: lol ok I'll let you know when I boot back up
[02:50] <MrMonkey31> but hey I'm a noob.  one day, my advice is gonna end the world as we know it.  that would be par for the course, pretty much
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: there's one more to try if that's not working
[02:52] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: it came up with a prompt: "System program problem detected. Do you wanna report the problem now?"
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: hmm, crap
[02:52] <aFeijo> hi folks, is it possible to write something that will watch a file and if it is changed, copy it to another folder?
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: ok try 1 more thing
[02:53] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: bad sign assume
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: somethings not compatable with the xorg that's running
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: try: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173 && sudo apt-get install nvidia-173-updates
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: pastebin the complete text if you can
[02:55] <glitsj16> aFeijo: you could use the command 'inotifywait' in a bash script for that; if not already installed, run 'sudo apt-get install inotifytools' to get it ... take some time to read the man inotifywait to get the specifics to use in your script
[02:55] <FlipNixon> hello can you help me?
[02:56] <aFeijo> glitsj16, thanks! I will check it
[02:56] <FlipNixon> i need help, anyone?
[02:56] <plut0> does ubuntu have an app to configure /etc/pam.d files? kinda like authconfig for centos/redhat
[02:57] <FlipNixon> anyone expert on ubuntu that can help me?
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> plut0: just your favourite text editor
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | FlipNixon
[02:57] <glitsj16> aFeijo: sudo apt-get install inotify-tools (forgot the -)
[02:58] <plut0> hitsujiTMO: was looking for something a little more sophisticated
[02:58] <FlipNixon> ok ubottu
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> plut0: afraid not
[02:58] <plut0> no authconfig equivalent huh?
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> plut0: nope
[02:58] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374147/
[02:58] <lotus-blade> negative on the sound still after reinstall
[02:59] <lotus-blade> from any of my speakers
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: ok reboot and hope for the best
[02:59] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: ok, are the speakers turned on and connected correctly?
[03:00] <acecabana_> I've never noticed this before, but after moving all my media from my windows machine over to my ubuntu box, I've noticed all my music/videos just sound better for some reason
[03:00] <acecabana_> like crisper
[03:00] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: ok be right back
[03:00] <lotus-blade> yes
[03:00] <FlipNixon> yesterday i tried to install windows xp witch had an error and now my hard drive is formatted and no os on it.So, i wanted to install ubuntu, downloaded unetbootin for mac and made a usb boot.When i try too boot(changing the bios) it gives me the error missing operating system.Nothing I've tried works, anyone can help?
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: are you getting noise from running: speaker-test -c 2
[03:01] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: From my experience with unetbootin and and MBP 8,1, it won't work via USB
[03:01] <plut0> hitsujiTMO: found my answer, pam-auth-update
[03:01] <acecabana_> I had to burn to a dvd and install that way
[03:01] <acecabana_> it's not the fastest or most efficient way, but after a lot of research, it was the only way available for me
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> plut0: o.O thats a new one for me
[03:01] <FlipNixon> ace cabana my macbook is MacBook Pro 7,1 and im not trying to install here, im trying to install on an asus eeepc 1005px
[03:02] <acecabana_> but anyone who may have a more updated solution, please feel free
[03:02] <lotus-blade> nothing
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: can you send me a screenshot of your alsamixer
[03:02] <acecabana_> oh I see
[03:03] <acecabana_> And you tried reformatting your USB stick and throwing ubuntu back on?
[03:03] <FlipNixon> the thing is the asus eeepc doesn't have cd drive
[03:03] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I don't know if you're still around, but I was able to install the os; however, on reboot I just get a blank purple screen
[03:03] <hitsujiTMO> lotus-blade: and can you pastebin: aplay -l
[03:03] <acecabana_> yea no worries on the cd front. That issue was only for MBPs
[03:03] <FlipNixon> yes i tried, i formatted with disk utility, then i run unetbootin and load it again, and nothin on the boot
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: try again with the nomodeset... etc... you'll need it till you get drivers installed for whatever is causing the problem
[03:04] <acecabana_> ok, forget unetbootin this time and just throw the whole download on the formatted stick
[03:04] <acecabana_> but make sure you format the usb stick to fat 32
[03:04] <acecabana_> if it's formatted to mac's filesystem then it won't recognize
[03:04] <FlipNixon> i guess fat_32 is ms-dos right?
[03:05] <acecabana_> what are your choices?
[03:05] <acecabana_> i don't have a mac in front of me
[03:05] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I get that. the purple screen is when i use nomodeset
[03:05] <threex5> otherwise I get a black screen
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: try acpi=off
[03:05] <FlipNixon> the only choice for windows is ms-dos
[03:05] <FlipNixon> ill try
[03:05] <acecabana_> ok
[03:05] <threex5> acpi=off in place of nomodeset gives me a black screen, hitsujiTMO
[03:05] <acecabana_> try that
[03:05] <acecabana_> and get back to me
[03:05] <threex5> i am in recovery mode now
[03:05] <threex5> that works
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: what cpu do you have?
[03:06] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, intel core i5
[03:06] <FlipNixon> another fact i just noticed, after unetbootin i can't format the ssd on disk utility, thats weird :s
[03:06] <ubuntunewbies> Hello, I figured this would be the right place to ask. I am currently looking for a new laptop; and I would like to run a linux destro (ubuntu) on it as the only os; however all the laptops I have looked at recently seem to have issues getting ubuntu installed, Any suggestions?
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: whats the exact model? is it a haskell cpu?
[03:08] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, it is an msi slidebook s20
[03:08] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: hmm yea I'm not sure about that one
[03:08] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: try for the usb stick and see what happens
[03:08] <threex5> i don't know if it's a haskell cpu
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> ubuntunewbies: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[03:08] <ubuntunewbies> I heard lenovo seem to be the brand has the best support
[03:08] <FlipNixon> i formatted the usb, putting now the installation iso straight into the usb
[03:09] <FlipNixon> i don't know if it ill work since there no boot "file"
[03:09] <ubuntunewbies> But reading about the y510p seems to be a pain in the ass to install
[03:09] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: you have to boot directly from the usb stick. When your computer boots up hit whatever 'f
[03:09] <acecabana_> 'f' key that corresponds to your boot choices
[03:10] <FlipNixon> on the asus the boot choices are on esc
[03:10] <acecabana_> ok so do that
[03:10] <FlipNixon> ok ill try that
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: that unforunately does not tell me the cpu. can you run this from recovery: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[03:10] <FlipNixon> i really hope that the hdd is not broken...
[03:10] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, one sec
[03:11] <lotus-blade> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374180/
[03:11] <lotus-blade> where do you want the screen shot?
[03:11] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, where 'model name' is s20?
[03:11] <threex5> or do you want me to literally type 'model name'
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: no. exactly what it wrote
[03:11] <FlipNixon> ok so i formatted the usb, put the iso straight into it, open boot option, boot usb and nothing happened
[03:12] <FlipNixon> just a black screen
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> ubuntunewbies, There are a number of computers that have ubuntu installed, you might google for those.
[03:12] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, ok
[03:12] <acecabana_> how big is your usb stick
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: that should tell you the exact model of cpu
[03:13] <FlipNixon> 4gb
[03:13] <acecabana_> which ubuntu version are u downloading
[03:13] <ubuntunewbies> wilee-nilee: I have looked at system76
[03:13] <acecabana_> i think the versions are all under 1 gig right?
[03:13] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, the iso file is a collection of files, you have to "write" the iso file to the usb stick with an app like unetbootin. putting the iso file itself on the usb will not do anything. or, am i confused?
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> ubuntunewbies,  They seem nice, problem here is this is support so this is a bit off topic is all.
[03:14] <acecabana_> he's saying unetbootin isn't working for him
[03:14] <FlipNixon> the latest one, ubunto 12.04 LTS
[03:14] <acecabana_> so I told him to just dump the file directly on the usb stick
[03:14] <ubuntunewbies> This a support only irc?
[03:14] <kakaka> hi all, after two days of headache, i got my hibernation to work, tried a lot of things and get finally did it with native , now i am resuming my session within 15 seconds but the problem is that when i resume from hibernate and try to shutdown, it didn't shutdown, i had to do press power button for 10 seconds to shut it down. why it is happening, i also tried alt+ctrl+delete and messages stop at stopping hardware clock, that's it, how to solve that
[03:14] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, i5-3337U
[03:14] <ianmac1> acecabana_, ah, ok. so what we need to kow is what does "not working" mean
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> ubuntunewbies, There is #ubuntu-offtopic I bet you can get some help there.
[03:15] <ianmac1> acecabana_, dumping an iso file directly to the usb stick won't work, he needs to expand the iso file into its included files for the live system to boot into
[03:15] <ubuntunewbies> Ok, sorry. Thanks for the redirect!
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> no prob enjoy. ;)
[03:15] <dannymichel> im trying to install this app, but there are no install instructions. i can't ./configre make make install either http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186335&p=12840937#post12840937
[03:16] <FlipNixon> ianmac1 i tryed to install xp and it failed after disc formatting, so no os is on pc.When i use my mac with unetbootin to install ubunto on a usb to install on the asus pc the ubuntu doesn't load and it says operating system missing
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: what version of ubuntu are you installing?
[03:16] <kakaka> wilee-nilee: system is not shutting down after resuming from hibernation, how to solve that error, or i should try tux on ice??
[03:16] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, yeah, that's what happens when you try to boot into an iso file itself, there is no OS to boot into
[03:16] <FlipNixon> 12.04 LTS
[03:17] <acecabana_> ianmac1: that's what he means by not working
[03:17] <ianmac1> acecabana_, ah, ok, go it. thanks for that
[03:17] <acecabana_> ianmac1: I remember having similar issues a few months back using unetbootin
[03:17] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: during the reboot I froze at a purple screen and am on the live cd now
[03:18] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: I take it you've already followed the instructions here right? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[03:18] <FlipNixon> i usually experience these kind of problems using software that its non mac osx on mac osx
[03:18] <ianmac1> acecabana_, FlipNixon , I bought this laptop two days ago. it had winodws 8, i installed unetbootin to create the ubuntu usb live env. Then booted into it and installed ubuntu 13.10 over win 8. so, I'm not sure why unetbootin didn't work
[03:18] <FlipNixon> me not having another windows pc its a real pain
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> xero73: crap. might need to do a reinstall and try the nvidia-173-updates again. if that doesn't work then your gpu will have to use the radeon driver
[03:19] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:19] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: try there too for windows specific machines
[03:19] <lotus-blade> thanks for the help. got it working now
[03:19] <xero73> hitsujiTMO: crap..I guess I will set it to reformat and try again in the morning
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> kakaka, No idea.
[03:20] <FlipNixon> maybe the problem is not converting the iso file to img?
[03:20] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: that would work if you're installing on a mac machine
[03:20] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: but you said this is for an acer so that won't work
[03:20] <FlipNixon> i tried another tutorial, thing is im not english, and sometimes my terminal doesn't accept the codes they give
[03:21] <FlipNixon> thing im not very good at
[03:21] <FlipNixon> this is for an asus
[03:21] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: asus sorry
[03:21] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: either way, converting to an img won't work for an asus
[03:21] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, and the asus has no working OS?
[03:22] <FlipNixon> no
[03:22] <FlipNixon> because the xp installation formatted the previous 7
[03:22] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, does the asus have a dvd drive?
[03:22] <FlipNixon> unfurtunally no
[03:22] <FlipNixon> i wish at this point
[03:22] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, i assume it has usb2/3 ports?
[03:23] <FlipNixon> yes it does
[03:23] <FlipNixon> this kind of problems remind me why i changed to osx
[03:23] <FlipNixon> now not even ubuntu loading
[03:24] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, if worst comes to worst, you can always buy a usb stick with ubuntu pre-loaded and ready to run. that would be a great way to install ubuntu on that asus
[03:24] <FlipNixon> without unetbootin solving my problem i don't know how to create a bootable usb, since i don't have any other computer at home
[03:25] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I opted to encrypt the filesystem, and encrypt my home folder, and I am on a SSD. does that mean anything?
[03:25] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, may i pm you?
[03:25] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[03:26] <FlipNixon> ianmac1 im from portugal and the usb would take too long to arrive, and im in such a hurry cuz i need the pc for tomorrows important class, its already 3:30 am and the class is at 9am
[03:26] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, ok, well that answers the question i was going to ask in pm. wish i could be more help
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: that should not cause problem. if you're getting stuck after that. i presume there's no thernet port on that device is there?
[03:27] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, do you have any friends who have a linux or windows box?
[03:27] <FlipNixon> acecabana i can't run that program since its windows only(.exe)
[03:28] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: yea i realized that...I'm trying to think of something else
[03:28] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, there is an ethernet port
[03:28] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: unetbootin gave me all kinds of headaches a few months ago. I had to stop using it
[03:28] <FlipNixon> ianmac1 i have, not at this hour unfurtunally
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: can you reboot and add the kernel option text  instead of nomodeset
[03:28] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, ah, ok
[03:29] <FlipNixon> i wouldn't be awake at this point if it wasn't so important, believe me
[03:29] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, ok but how does an ethernet port relate to that, i'm curious
[03:29] <joossee> in network manager how can i tell which interface corresponds to which wlan adapter?
[03:29] <FlipNixon> acecabana unebotin is giving me a real hard time right now
[03:30] <FlipNixon> since its the only real liable program i can possible use for my problem
[03:30] <rlw96> how do you use blue tooth
[03:30] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, should I remove 'quiet splash' and put in 'text' instead?
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: its easy to get ethernet up and running in cli. quite difficult to get wifi running
[03:30] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: if you want you can allow me to remote control your mac and see if I can diagnose it that way
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: no, just add text. also, i presume you have an ethernet cable?
[03:30] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, easy if you config during install!
[03:30] <kc97ble> hello everyone
[03:30] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: last ditch effort
[03:31] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I see. well ethernet is not plugged in right now because I'm using the cable on another computer to chat with you. I can go get another cable, though
[03:31] <FlipNixon> if you promise not to mess with my personal info, go ahead bro
[03:31] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: yea I won't...go to www.join.me
[03:31] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: and start a meeting then send me the code
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: he could only get gui with install ubuntu, not with try ubuntu for some bizarre reason
[03:31] <joossee> threex5, what kind of card is it?
[03:32] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, send the code to acecabana_ via pm, though
[03:32] <FlipNixon> how do i send pas here?
[03:32] <FlipNixon> pm*
[03:32] <acecabana_> ianmac1: pm is just clicking on the username right? first time using this irc
[03:32] <threex5> joossee, I'm not sure. it's a brand new computer. hitsujiTMO just adding 'text' gives me a black screen
[03:33] <joossee> threex5, i had a similar problem. you can go out and buy a cable andsolve your rpoblem or you can buy a wireless card that works during the install. once you set it up it will be primary interface for all boots, regardless
[03:33] <acecabana_> i think if you type a name then a : it'll send a pm to that person
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: give it a second .. should have a text login
[03:33] <acecabana_> FlipNixon: so acecabana: message
[03:33] <ianmac1> FlipNixon, in your irc client, type this: /msg acecabana_ messagehere
[03:33] <joossee> threex5, you mean in grub you hold shift then e ?
[03:33] <joossee> and added the text thing?
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: the wireless aint the problem, its lack of a gui
[03:33] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, no such luck, even while waiting. joossee, I'm not holding shift---just going to 'ubuntu' and typing e
[03:33] <joossee> ok well you wanna set it to "nomodeset| not text
[03:34] <joossee> nomodeset
[03:34] <ianmac1> acecabana_, in xchat, right click a username and choose open dialog window
[03:34] <joossee> threex5, then you can edit interfaces
[03:34] <threex5> joossee, hitsujiTMO, I also have a flag called $vt_handoff. Not sure if that's supposed to be in there
[03:34] <joossee> threex yes instead of entring text or quiet splash enter nomdeset at the very end of the line, typical after "ro"
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: tried that and some of the usual other kernel flags
[03:35] <joossee> nomodeset
[03:35] <joossee> oh ok
[03:35] <sharnywoop> has anyone here used YUMI for usb installation?  I can't get my dban iso to work correctly with it, it says it's not supported
[03:35] <FlipNixon> how do i start the meeting?
[03:35] <joossee> he could just be putting it in the wrong place hitsujiTMO ?
[03:35] <threex5> joossee, should i remove 'quiet splash $vt_handoff'?
[03:35] <joossee> no
[03:35] <joossee> try putting nomodeset in between the two
[03:35] <hitsujiTMO> joossee its a intel hd 4000 for gpu so shouldn't be needed. something else is causing the problem
[03:35] <joossee> after queit spalsh
[03:36] <FlipNixon> ace?
[03:36] <joossee> what version of ubuntu is this?
[03:36] <acecabana_> yea, I'm messaging you in the pm window
[03:36] <joossee> cuz if its server he wont have the gui installed...
[03:36] <acecabana_> did you get my messages
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: its desktop ofc
[03:36] <threex5> joossee. it doesn't work. i get stuck on the purple screen. it's ubuntu 13.10 x64
[03:36] <sharnywoop> anyone use YUMI on ubuntu and install DBAN?
[03:36] <joossee> threex5, are you using necrypted volumes?
[03:37] <joossee> more than just home i mean
[03:37] <threex5> joossee, I am, yes. the whole filesystem
[03:37] <joossee> ok
[03:37] <joossee> put nomodeset in there
[03:37] <joossee> and then at the purple screen try typing some shit, like you password for encrypted volumes
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: heres a thought ... so "install ubuntu" worked that one time right?      try it again but quit the installer and that should bring you to the live mode
[03:37] <joossee> there is a bug where this doesnt dipslay right. youve updated fglrx or whatever?
[03:38] <threex5> joossee, it sounds like you're pinpointing the issue for me, which is great
[03:38] <joossee> ive had this same problem
[03:38] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, that's a good idea
[03:38] <joossee> just honestly try typing some shit and you should see the enter passphrase prompt come up
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: try joossees idea first
[03:38] <joossee> sorry language
[03:38] <threex5> joossee, i typed my password at the purple screen but nothing happened
[03:39] <threex5> but I would just as soon reinstall, non-encrypted
[03:39] <joossee> threex5, ok so have you updated fglrx ?
[03:39] <threex5> joossee, no
[03:39] <threex5> how do i do that?
[03:39] <IdleOne> joossee: Please keep the language clean
[03:39] <joossee> because u dont have internet access?
[03:40] <threex5> joossee, i dont even know what fglrx is
[03:40] <joossee> hitsujiTMO, do u know apt-get update fglrx?
[03:40] <joossee> sudo apt-get updare fglrx i think?
[03:40] <joossee> update
[03:40] <okarin21> Upgrade
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> joossee threex5 theres also a bug where the usb driver isn't included in initramfs for some usb hosts, and you cant enter encryption password,  so it could be 2 bugs causing a complete showstopper
[03:41] <joossee> oh wait its intel video
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> joossee he doesnt have an amd gfx card
[03:41] <joossee> ya what hitsujiTMO said happened to a guy yesterday
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> joossee 2 guys
[03:42] <joossee> threex5, when u did the install where you net connected?
[03:42] <Frank81> can some one tell me why chromium is always writing?
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: heres what your gonna do, try booting the installer again and quit and from there we can chroot and try and fix the problem
[03:42] <joossee> Frank81, it is writing to google and telling them what porn you watch.
[03:42] <Frank81> joossee no no joke i am running iotop
[03:43] <joossee> Frank81, what do you mean writing?
[03:43] <Frank81> and the most disk writes happen by chromium even if cashe is zero
[03:43] <Frank81> It Writes to any files
[03:43] <threex5> joossee, I was. hitsujiTMO, let's try it. if it fails, I will install again w/o encrypted filesystem and just encrypt /home
[03:43] <joossee> GUYS: how can i tell which wlan interface is which in network manager? i have 3 in the system identical
[03:43] <ianmac1> Frank81, you're the third person today to report that type of bug. I'm thinking there is a big bug in the recent chromium.
[03:43] <joossee> threex5, encryption isnt the problem here i figures. you should stick to that part!!
[03:44] <Frank81> ianmac1 ya i am on 14.04
[03:44] <Frank81> i only whanted to reduce a bit some other disk io
[03:44] <ianmac1> Frank81, then you should be in #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <Frank81> and then i regonized that chromium makes much io
[03:44] <Frank81> it don't slows my system or else
[03:44] <threex5> joossee, ok. hitsujiTMO, the install prompt runs fine, looks fine, and when I quit it takes me out to a black, blank screen
[03:45] <Frank81> but i am wondering why should my browser write to disk when i don't surf the web and cache is offline
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> the chrome io is probably RNG, firefox had the same problem a few years back
[03:45] <Frank81> in iotop i see some realy funny process names
[03:45] <Frank81> like chromium~rBlocked
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: grrrr. this is fairly frustrating
[03:46] <Frank81> not blocked blocking sorry
[03:46] <ianmac1> Frank81, are you on ubuntu 14.04?
[03:46] <joossee> threex5, when you edit the grub loader thing... what is the line say before quiet splash?
[03:46] <Frank81> ya
[03:46] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, you're telling me! although I really appreciate the help
[03:46] <ianmac1> Frank81, then you should be in #ubuntu+1. They may have a work around
[03:46] <Frank81> but i think this happens generaly
[03:46] <Frank81> ianmac the people in +1 don't have anything forget em
[03:46] <joossee> lol
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: its looking for data for entrophy for RNG is my guess.
[03:47] <Frank81> as 13.04 started my usb keyboard don't worked
[03:47] <Frank81> yesterday hitsujiTMO got the workaround
[03:47] <ianmac1> ah, ok
[03:47] <joossee> da ding here he is
[03:47] <Frank81> so you know this is more then half a year back
[03:47] <Frank81> the people in +1 never cleard any bugs
[03:48] <threex5> joossee, you mean the line above it? it just says fi
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: can you try the lts and see if you're getting the same problem?
[03:49] <joossee> theline that has quiet splash and $vt what else is in that same line?
[03:49] <Frank81> thereex5
[03:49] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, I would actually prefer to use the lts. the only reason I decided to try this is that the new computer is a convertible notebook and I assumed a newer release would be more touch/tablet friendly
[03:49] <Frank81> the problem is the ohci_pci driver
[03:49] <Frank81> add it to initrd img
[03:49] <Frank81> :D
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: try remove the $vt bit ... that video settings
[03:49] <Frank81> same like me
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: yes, i'm finging 13.10 a lot better with touchscreen support
[03:50] <Guest4807> How can I debug why my apache is not starting up?  Also Webmin, not sure what else...
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> finding*
[03:50] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO:  why didn't you told him to add ohci_pci?
[03:50] <Frank81> it will fix his keyboard error
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> Guest4807: webmin isn't compatable with ubuntu
[03:51] <Frank81> its not in the lts still
[03:51] <joossee> threex5, replace the quiet splash and $vt with "nomodeset"
[03:51] <dotnetted1> does ubuntu 13.04 require a reboot after removing apparmor via apt-get?
[03:51] <threex5> joossee, sorry. let me tell you what else is on that line
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: can't even get there to do that
[03:51] <Frank81> dotnetted1:  it requires never reboot
[03:52] <harlequin516> hitsujiTMO: I had it all running fine for a few months then soemthing happened and my services have top be started amanually after reboot
[03:52] <harlequin516> I'm rather confused about the new startup system.
[03:52] <Frank81> hitsujiTMO: then a workaround will be to install 12.04
[03:52] <threex5> joossee /vmlinuz-3.11.0-12-generic.efi.signed root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff
[03:53] <Frank81> and upgrade it to 13.10 and then edit befor rebot the modules
[03:53] <Frank81> since in 12.04 all is ok
[03:53] <dotnetted1> Frank81: I have a permissions problem preventing mysql starting - Trying to change my tmpdir to ramdisk and am getting permission denied on Ubuntu 12 | fstab contains "tmpfs /var/mysqltmp tmpfs rw,gid=116,uid=107,size=20G,nr_inodes=10k,mode=0700 0 0" | /var/mysqltmp/ is drwx------  mysql:mysql | AppArmor is disabled -- what else can I check?
[03:53] <harlequin516> I am used to using /etc/init.d/<files>
[03:53] <Frank81> dotnetted your totally wrong
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: upstart is sooo much better. but yeah, webmin has a lot of incompatibilities so its not supported on ubuntu.
[03:53] <dotnetted1> mysqld is running as the mysql user and the uis/gid in fstab are correct: mysql uid=107 mysql gid=116
[03:53] <threex5> Frank8, you're addressing hitsujiTMO but it sounds like you're talking about my problem so i'm confused. are you talking about my problem or something else?
[03:54] <dotnetted1> Frank81: what am I totally wrong about?
[03:54] <harlequin516>  /etc/init.d/apache2 starts fine with no errors.  No t really concerned about webmin, but apache2 is a pain that it doesn't start
[03:54] <Frank81> threex ya i only verfiy my toughts
[03:54] <Frank81> i got same problems like you
[03:54] <Frank81> on 12.04 all works
[03:54] <Frank81> you can install it and then upgrade when its running
[03:54] <harlequin516> Just want to know steps to trace why it is not starting up when boot
[03:54] <Frank81> then after upgrade add the ohci_pci and then reboot
[03:54] <Frank81> and all will work with 13.10
[03:55] <harlequin516> I don't see anything about httpd in the /var/log/syslog
[03:55] <threex5> Frank81, where do i add ohci_pci
[03:55] <Frank81> harlequin
[03:55] <Frank81> this is not apache support but i work for apache
[03:55] <Frank81> write apachectl -V
[03:55] <Frank81> and you will see why it not starts
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> Frank81: hes having other problems too where hes not getting any graphical output at all
[03:55] <harlequin516> Frank81 No Apache starts fine no config problems.  Its just not runbning as part of init.
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: start with the logs
[03:56] <harlequin516> How do I know that apache is scheduled to start upon init?
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: apache uses old system V init
[03:57] <Frank81> harlequin to check if init works simply run 2x terminal
[03:57] <dotnetted1> is there anything outside of apparmor that could be preventing mysql from writing to tmpfs device mounted via fstab (/var/mysqltmp) ?
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: have a look at the global apache log in /var/log
[03:57] <Frank81> in one you do htop (Programm for watching whats running)
[03:57] <Frank81> and then in other console try telenet localhost 80
[03:57] <Frank81> telnet i mean
[03:58] <Frank81> then you see if it starts in the htop window
[03:58] <harlequin516> I have sym link of /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2 pointing to /etc/init.d/apache2
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> dotnetted1: permissions.
[03:58] <Frank81> harlequin thats probally not enought to know that he should start on port 80
[03:58] <Frank81> when connect
[03:58] <harlequin516> Apache does not fail.  It is not being called by init.
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> dotnetted1: whats it writing to and whats it running as?
[03:59] <skypce> guys
[03:59] <skypce> i want add this command to startup session
[03:59] <skypce> setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp
[03:59] <skypce> how can i do
[03:59] <skypce> ?
[03:59] <FloodBot1> skypce: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <skypce> i was edited rc.conf and .xinitrc but it doesnt work
[04:00] <harlequin516> Frank81: apache starts fine using /etc/init.d/apache2 start.  The problem is that I want it to start from init when rebooting.
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: rc2.d is the correct statup for apache. so it should be getting called?
[04:00] <Frank81> harlequin516:  sudo apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
[04:01] <harlequin516> runlevel gives me : N 2     Is this normal?
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516 have you get webmin installed via ppa?
[04:01] <Frank81> use sysv-rc-conf
[04:01] <Frank81> maybe it helps
[04:01] <harlequin516> Has nothing to do with webmin.  Should not have mentioned webmin.
[04:01] <ianmac1> skypce, YOU CANT TO ENABLE CTRL ALT BACKSPACE TO BE ABLE TO TERMINATE UBUNTU?
[04:01] <harlequin516> I am trying to trace init to find out wha tis being called and what is not being called.
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: actually webmin can interfere with the startups so could be
[04:01] <skypce> harlequin516, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:01] <harlequin516> How can I do this?
[04:02] <skypce> ianmac1, try this command in your terminal
[04:02] <skypce> it works
[04:02] <skypce> i was test and it works
[04:02] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: everything in rc2.d gets called on bootup
[04:02] <ianmac1> skypce, yes, what are you trying to do, disable it?
[04:02] <skypce> nono
[04:02] <skypce> i want enable
[04:02] <skypce> control alt backspace = logout
[04:03] <skypce> i have ubuntu 12.04
[04:03] <Frank81> hold i am probally wrong !
[04:03] <harlequin516> OK will trace by writing to log from apache init file
[04:03] <harlequin516> See you after reboot
[04:03] <Frank81> harlequin516: on what condition do you whant to start apache?
[04:03] <Frank81> maybe we understand you wrong
[04:03] <harlequin516> Frank81: Always after reboot.
[04:04] <harlequin516> Just as a stnadard service nothing fancy
[04:04] <joossee> did threex5 solve his thing?
[04:04] <harlequin516> Its not being started
[04:04] <ianmac1> skypce, I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1777197
[04:04] <Frank81> /etc/rcS.d 
[04:04] <harlequin516> I have to start it manually as root from the command line after booting.
[04:04] <bsmith093> im freaking out, ummm, what happens if im booting a system into ram, and suddenly after days of working flawlessly, the whole thing freezes solid, not even clock movment, and whwn im forced to reboot it, the hardrive has logically ( not physically) vanished as far as the booted-to-ram OS is concerned???!?! how screwed am I?
[04:04] <threex5> joossee, it sounded like the next step is to install 12.04
[04:04] <dotnetted1> Frank81: you were wrong :) - had to reboot for apparmor to fully remove
[04:04] <Frank81> dotnetted that can't be true
[04:05] <joossee> threex5, i run 12.04 server 64 and its pretty awesome
[04:05] <dotnetted1> mysqld was getting blocked to my ramdisk after fully purging and uninstall apparmor - working now with the same fstab line mounted the same way with mysql running as the same user
[04:05] <joossee> threex5, you can save a lot of heartache by going out and buying yourself a TPLINK WDN4800
[04:06] <threex5> joossee, i like 12.04 a lot
[04:06] <Frank81> hmmmm i never got problems with apparmor
[04:06] <skypce> thank you ianmac1
[04:06] <Frank81> wirred stuff
[04:06] <joossee> threex5, sorry i asked this before: when you were installing where you connected to internet?
[04:06] <ianmac1> skypce, I'm not sure if it will work, I'm on ubuntu 13.10, but you're welcome :)
[04:06] <threex5> but like i said to hitsujiTMO, I have a touchscreen device and so i wanted the newest release
[04:06] <Frank81> i runned over 1000 ubuntu servers with over 1000 diffrent mysql confs
[04:06] <Frank81> :D
[04:06] <Frank81> but ok i learn every day
[04:06] <threex5> joossee, yes
[04:07] <joossee> ah ok
[04:07] <joossee> threex5, try one last thing: in the line i asked you to post, erase everythign starting at the "q" in quietsplash and replace with "nomodeset" ?
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: 2 things i'd try. 12.04 lts, or the trusty beta. even if you can get either to the live boot, it can help debug the issue with 13.10 install
[04:08] <joossee> threex5, remove $vt as well.. should read somethinglike "ro    nomodeset"
[04:08] <rumpfundler> yo
[04:09] <threex5> joossee, I did this with no luck. hitsujiTMO, i'm making the 12.04 usb now so i will try first to live boot it and let you know if it works
[04:09] <bsmith093> nvm its back, just rebooted again
[04:09] <threex5> thanks so much everyone for your help
[04:11] <kevin__> hey guys. i'm trying to find out where this mime type is defined "application/x-sqlite3"... i've checked in /etc/mime.types , /usr/share/applications , and ~/.local/share/applications ... am  i missing somehting?
[04:11] <sethj> amithkk around?
[04:12] <joossee> guys seriouslythough: howcan i tell which wlan devices are which in networkmanager???
[04:12] <ianmac1> kevin__, ~/.local/share/mime ?
[04:12] <joossee> i have three identical cards
[04:13] <kevin__> ianmac1: nothing there either
[04:14] <kevin__> basically doing a find -print0 | xargs -0 grep -sli sqlite3
[04:14] <ianmac1> kevin__, ok, I only mentiioned it because mine has seeral files there
[04:14] <Frank81> joossee drop the network manager
[04:14] <trism> kevin__: /usr/share/mime/application/x-sqlite3.xml ?
[04:14] <Frank81> its bugged use ifconfig
[04:14] <Frank81> it will get you working like you need it
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> joossee: i don't think networkmanager is built with multiple wlans in mind. that's something to report a bug on
[04:15] <Frank81> always when there is more then one network device use ifconfig
[04:15] <kevin__> trism: that's it. thanks
[04:15] <Frank81> there is much the network manager can't handle
[04:16] <nissim> Hey guys! I'm having an issue with my wireless card/drivers and was wondering if I could get some help. The wireless card is a rtl8188ce
[04:16] <Frank81> realtek :D
[04:17] <nissim> Essentially, when trying ti connect wirelessly, the computer is not able to authenticate the connection and then it ends up getting stuck in a loop of trying to connect
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: the drivers are released for 2.6 only
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: what driver are you running now?
[04:17] <nissim> Isn't there 2 versions? One for 2.6 and below and one for 2.6 and above?
[04:18] <harlequin516> Okay so I added echo "Boo `date` $0" > /var/log/test to my /etc/init.d/apache2 file.  It shuts down fine.  It does not run when booting up even though the file is symlinked from rc2.d, and the reunlevel of my boot is at 2.
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: ahh didn't see that
[04:18] <nissim> Sorry for being a bit of a noob at this, but what command do I type in to see what driver I'm running?
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: lspci -k
[04:19] <harlequin516> Frank: any ideas?
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: what kernel are you running? uname -r
[04:19] <nissim> Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01) Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8195 Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce Kernel modules: rtl8192ce
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: your init process is broken then
[04:20] <harlequin516> Haha yes, I know, how can I fix it?  Or trace whats going on?
[04:20] <harlequin516> Where is the code tyhat calls all of the rc2.d/S99Myservice scripts?
[04:21] <lapidary> Has anyone ever had problems with locale settings?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374396/  I'm getting messages with most / all install scripts
[04:21] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: the sysv init process is triggered in the config file in /etc/init
[04:22] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: and what kernel?: uname -r
[04:22] <nissim> 3.5.0-42-generic
[04:22] <harlequin516>  /etc/init is a directory
[04:25] <trism> lapidary: sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8;
[04:25] <harlequin516> Okay looks like `telinit 2` would be is called from rc-sysinit.conf
[04:25] <nissim> hitsujiTMO, not sure is this is relevant, but I ran the lshw -c network command and got the following output: configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8192ce driverversion=3.5.0-42-generic firmware=N/A latency=0 link=no multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
[04:25] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: theres a number of configs there that call the sysv related services. rc.conf rcS.conf rc-sysinit.conf
[04:25] <harlequin516> But htat is a binary file.
[04:26] <acecabana> Anyone else experience periodic random reboots?
[04:26] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, the lts stick booted fine, and quitting took me to the live disk just fine
[04:26] <nissim> where would I find those configs?
[04:26] <lapidary> TY trism that fixed it!!
[04:26] <threex5> and I didn't have to add any boot flags
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: can you mount the 13.10 root
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: no they are not binary files
[04:27] <wafflejock> acecabana: check your logs...  cat /var/log/system
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> harlequin516: ahh sorry misread that
[04:27] <acecabana> wafflejock: how do i do that
[04:28] <YUKEY> who‘s here
[04:28] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, the result: 'not a mountable file system'
[04:28] <reisio> YUKEY: me
[04:28] <wafflejock> acecabana: to get a terminal hit Ctrl+Alt+T
[04:28] <harlequin516> I am going to reboot telinit is binary file.
[04:28] <wafflejock> then use the command I wrote above... cat /var/log/system
[04:28] <wafflejock> that will show you your system log in the console
[04:28] <harlequin516> I think telinit 2 will be called. I am going to reboot and test this.  Then the problem will be proven to lie within telinit.
[04:28] <YUKEY> 有说汉语的么？
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !jp|YUKEY,
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !cn
[04:29] <wafflejock> acecabana: there's also some tools built into the OS for viewing system logs in a more user friendly way if you're not familiar with the command line
[04:29] <acecabana> wafflejock: cat: /var/log/system: No such file or directory
[04:29] <cfhowlett> sorry, got my kanji confused
[04:29] <wafflejock> sorry
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: its encrypted so you'll have to mount it with the tools for that (not familiar with encrypted drives) someone else hopefully can help you with that
[04:29] <wafflejock> acecabana: cat /var/log/syslog
[04:29] <wafflejock> not system
[04:29] <acecabana> wafflejock: ah ok, yea i like the command line better
[04:30] <acecabana> wafflejock: less hassle
[04:30] <wafflejock> acecabana: usually true yeah
[04:30] <wafflejock> acecabana: basically just look for anything suspicious around the time of the reboots
[04:30] <wafflejock> acecabana: if this is happening pretty often try to note the time of the next shut down
[04:30] <nissim> Any ideas what would cause this issue or being stuck in  a loop of trying to authenticate the wireless connection using a rtl8818ce wireless card?
[04:30] <threex5> hitsujiTMO, it identifies that it's encrypted and prompts me for a password, but when i enter the correct one it then says it's not a mountable file system --- not 'password incorrect'
[04:31] <wafflejock> acecabana: you may also want to run fsck and a RAM test
[04:34] <wafflejock> !fsck | acecabana
[04:34] <wafflejock> awe
[04:34] <acecabana> wafflejock: how do i do each one
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> nissim: can you have a look at the last answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342076/step-by-step-ubuntu-12-04-install-of-realtek-rtl8188ce-driver
[04:34] <wafflejock> acecabana: basically you'll want a boot CD/USB with ubuntu on it (basically any distro should do though)
[04:34] <wafflejock> acecabana: the memory test will be one of the options in the first boot menu from the CD
[04:34] <acecabana> ok
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> threex5: try an incorrect password to see for sure
[04:34] <wafflejock> acecabana: some tips on fsck here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1508294
[04:34] <wafflejock> acecabana: going from the bootcd and choosing livecd instead of install will give you the tools you need but keep the hard disk from being mounted
[04:34] <wafflejock> finally ubottu
[04:34] <acecabana> wafflejock: kernel: [  299.988075] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged
[04:34] <abd-allah> my ubuntu 12.04 LTS does not recognise my speaker.So I've no control over sound settings.Where to seek help?pls
[04:34] <digitalw00t> Guys.. I need some help resurrecting some braincells.
[04:34] <nissim> I'll give it a try. Thanks hitsujiTMO
[04:34] <acecabana> wafflejock: don't know if that's it, but it looks suspicious
[04:34] <digitalw00t> I'm trying to get linux to connect to a 2g edge modem with pppd.
[04:34] <digitalw00t> I haven't done this in over 20 years..
[04:35] <wafflejock> acecabana: yeah sounds like RAM according to some googles
[04:35] <digitalw00t> Tried for a few days now..  nada.
[04:35] <acecabana> no reboot yet, but I'm not holding my breath
[04:35] <wafflejock> acecabana: definitely doesn't sound great but if it's RAM not to expensive
[04:35] <abd-allah> digitalw00t:I'm also using 2G EDGE modem.
[04:35] <wafflejock> acecabana: would just run the mem test for 10 min or something to see if it can tell you for sure
[04:35] <acecabana> wafflejock: ugh, yea I installed ubuntu today because windows 7 was randomly rebooting and at one point even BSOD'd on me
[04:36] <wafflejock> acecabana: you can find other memtest ISOs online if you just need that
[04:36] <acecabana> wafflejock: so memtest can be run using the live cd?
[04:36] <wafflejock> acecabana: yeah very likely some hardware issue and RAM tends to be it
[04:36] <wafflejock> acecabana: yeah
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: can you pastebin your /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/syslog for us
[04:36] <digitalw00t> nissim says he'll try to help, then vanishes.
[04:37] <digitalw00t> Anyone else wanna give it a crack?
[04:37] <wafflejock> acecabana: also if you have multiple sticks of RAM you can try the system with just one stick in at a time
[04:37] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: permission denied
[04:37] <abd-allah> I don't have control over sound settings.What to do?
[04:38] <wafflejock> !details | abd-allah
[04:38] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: sorry i reran the command and it came through
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: you need to read syslog as root. have you pastebinit installed?
[04:38] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: was that message for me?
[04:39] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: no i don't have that installed
[04:39] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: then: dmesg | pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: that should produce 2 urls on the console. can you post them here please
[04:41] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: what an awesome tool!
[04:41] <acecabana> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374446/
[04:41] <acecabana> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374447/
[04:41] <abd-allah> where to upload problem pictures?
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: you gpu is having issues
[04:43] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: how can you tell?
[04:43] <reisio> abd-allah: http://imgur.com/
[04:44] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: what line on which link?
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: showing errors in both logs. hitting over 90C
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: around 1073 in dmesg and 6589 and on in syslog
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: what gpu do you have?
[04:46] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: if I knew I'd tell ya
[04:46] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: how do I find out
[04:47] <qubey> hi guys
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: lspci | grep VGA
[04:47] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86M [Quadro NVS 135M] (rev a1)
[04:48] <FlipNixon> acecabana
[04:49] <qubey> how do you stop the dns from being pushed that is listed in resolv.conf as it shows like search mydomain.com? I thought I could create this commented out in the  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base but not working....
[04:49] <acecabana> FlipNixon: whats up
[04:51] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: just checked and my software center says I'm using the open source drivers
[04:51] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: should I be using the proprietary, tested ones
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: ok, cab you boot to the live cd and run the tests that wafflejock asked you to do.
[04:51] <acecabana> memtest and ram test?
[04:51] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: memtest and fsck.
[04:52] <acecabana> ok
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: this is a laptop right?
[04:53] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: can you pm me
[04:53] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: i can't. have to keep it to this channel
[04:53] <yeyeman> deluge does not allow for selecting 'do not download' of individual files?
[04:54] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: yes this is a laptop
[04:54] <yeyeman> can someone confirm?
[04:55] <FlipNixon> somebody know about the error installing with Unetbootin (unitframps)_?
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: the big problem with your gpu running so hot all the time is the its on the same heatsink as the cpu. the gpu might be able to take the constantly hitting over 90C temperatures, but your cpu can take that heat. so it could be causing the cpu to overheat which would definately be causing your problems
[04:56] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: sounds good. Would switching the drivers used resolve the issue?
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: it might aleviate some of the issues but cpu over heating over time could have caused permanent issues.
[04:57] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: I see
[04:57] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: defo try the proprietary driver tho. you really need to get those temeratures down
[04:57] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: doing that right now
[04:58] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: haven't gotten a reboot so far since the last one so knock on wood
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> thats an old gpu right? 2007/2008ish era?
[04:59] <FlipNixon> anyone can help e with (initramfp)_ installing ubunto with Unetbootin?
[04:59] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: the reboots would be explainable by the cpu overheating. there a safety cut off that shuts the cpu when it hits a threshold
[05:00] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: I changed the drivers and now I have a green light saying I'm using the recommended drivers. Hopefully that will alleviate that.
[05:00]  * xmetal agrees with what hitsujiTMO has been saying
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: hopefully. have a look for some software to monitor the temperatures too. have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[05:06] <kelvinella> hello, how to map a NAS drive?
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella: samba or nfs shares?
[05:07] <YUKEY> 空间和
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !cn
[05:08] <kelvinella> dont know, its synology NAS server
[05:08] <kelvinella> its unix like
[05:08] <kelvinella> i think samba?? no idea
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella: samba then. install cifs-utils
[05:09] <kelvinella> earlier i can still browse it in Network, now it is gone?
[05:09] <reisio> kelvinella: what hitsujiTMO said
[05:09] <ObrienDave> yeyeman afaik, you can select which files to D/L when you open the torrent
[05:09] <kelvinella> sometimes I am able to see it in network, sometimes dont, wondering why?
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella: do you have cifs-utils installed already?
[05:10] <xmetal> oops @ playing with my logitech trackball's ... ball ... rolled out of my hand. and off the desk across the room
[05:11] <xmetal> woops
[05:12]  * cfhowlett snide, nsfw comment blocked by user
[05:13] <wad> I've been doing backups from the command line. It's annoying in some way, though, because I can't just copy / from my mounted drive to my external USB hard drive: a bunch of stuff errors out (/proc, /dev, etc.)
[05:13] <wad> Is there a better solution?
[05:13] <wad> In the past I've written scripts to just grab certain pieces.
[05:13] <Paulus68_1> xmetal: hope you didn't kill anything in the process lol
[05:13] <reisio> wad: you could exclude them, but
[05:13] <kelvinella> hitsujiTMO, dont know
[05:13] <reisio> wad: there's really no need to backup the entire OS
[05:13] <digitalw00t> Does anyone remember how to connect via modem over ppp?
[05:13] <reisio> wad: all of that data is already mirrored by Canonical
[05:13] <wad> But it seems like someone should have made a more "push the button and it will do the Right Thing" solution....
[05:14] <reisio> wad: just backup /home/
[05:14] <wad> reisio, yes, but I need /etc because it has a bunch of my customizations in it.
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella: what's the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep "cifs-utils"
[05:14] <reisio> wad: it shouldn't, but you can back that up as well
[05:14] <wad> reisio, disk space is not an issue. Better to just back up everything, even the 1% of stuff that is OS, and not risk missing something important.
[05:14] <Paulus68_1> wad: or make sure you have a seperate partition for your homedrive
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> wad what are you using to backup? tar?
[05:15] <wad> hitsujiTMO, some of my scripts use rsync.
[05:15] <kelvinella> hitsujiTMO, I just installed cifs-utils now
[05:15] <xmetal> lol
[05:15] <kelvinella> hitsujiTMO, now what do I do?
[05:15] <xmetal> this is taking "getting use to" after using a regular mouse for years
[05:15] <reisio> wad: well just exclude /dev/* /proc/* /sys/*
[05:16] <Paulus68_1> wad: and by preference a seperate drive
[05:16] <wad> I'm backing up to an external hdd.
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> wad some tools have a --one-file-system for such a backup
[05:16] <wad> I could use dd. -_-
[05:16] <wad> ok
[05:16] <Paulus68_1> xmetal: it's like learning how to ride a bike once you know it you never forget :p
[05:18] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella: hopefully that should solve your problem with nautilus network browsing. Do you want to mount the network drive permanently?
[05:18] <xmetal> had this for years (trackball from logitech) .. .just decided to really use it now for some reason
[05:18] <kelvinella> hitsujiTMO, I am running xubuntu
[05:18] <reisio> wad: rsync's --exclude is really straightforward, IME
[05:18] <kelvinella> hitsujiTMO, thunar
[05:18] <wad> Yeah.
[05:19] <wad> That's what I usually use.
[05:19] <wad> I was just wondering if there were some snazzy GUI-based Ubuntu backup utility.
[05:19] <Paulus68_1> wad look at grsync
[05:19] <wad> ok
[05:20] <Paulus68_1> !grsync|wad
[05:20] <Paulus68_1> crap
[05:20] <visceral> for the love of all that is holy, can someone please tell me why system settings window crashes when i click the network icon?
[05:20] <visceral> this is a completely fresh install of 13.10 amd64
[05:20] <visceral> nothing done to it outside of the installer
[05:21] <hitsujiTMO> kelvinella, hopefully the cifs solves the issue with thunar. could be because you didn't have it installed was the problem. if you want to mount the drive permanently have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[05:21] <george_> george
[05:22] <wad> visceral, you're clicking the mouse too hard.
[05:23] <hitsujiTMO> wad would be an idea to do the backup offline, or when mounted readonly so your getting a propper snapshot
[05:23] <wad> That network icon is sensitive. You must click it gently.
[05:23] <xangua> !behelpful | was
[05:23] <wad> hitsujiTMO, I was just thinking that. Boot to CD or something, then dd to the drive.
[05:23] <wad> !befunny | wad
[05:23] <hitsujiTMO> wad: dd | gzip
[05:23] <wad> drat.
[05:24]  * wad nods
[05:24] <reisio> wad: that's some kind of "gui"
[05:24] <wad> heh
[05:25] <wad> I dunno. Was just fishing for a better way. I think I'll just rsync to the drive.
[05:25] <Paulus68_1> wad grsync is a gui based on rsync
[05:25] <s_faraday> hi guys
[05:26]  * wad nods. But for rsync, I might as well just use my script, than mess with a gui. It's just rsync.
[05:26]  * wad shrugs
[05:26] <s_faraday> how can I install GL libraries?
[05:26] <crankharder> when I installed Ubuntu on a VM I turned on home directory encryption.  Now, 'git status' is showing me messages like this if I leave a terminal session open for a period of time:  "fatal: Could not change back to '(unreachable)/my_repo': No such file or directory" -- it's as if the path disappaered out from under git.  if I cd back into the directory things work again.  I'm wondering if the encryption may be the cause somehow?
[05:26] <reisio> wad: yup, embrace sanity :)
[05:27] <wad> exactly.
[05:27] <Onixs> is there a prebuilt NAS based on ubuntu
[05:27] <wad> Hey, here's a question. I just unmounted an external USB drive, how do I remount it?
[05:27] <wad> "mount -a" doesn't find it again.
[05:27] <reisio> Onixs: 'nas' basically means 'proprietary awful OS with hard drive'
[05:27] <reisio> Onixs: otherwise it'd just be a 'hard drive'
[05:27] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: sudo apt-get install freeglut3 freeglut3-dev       i do believe
[05:27] <wad> I was about to just cycle the power on it, then I realized I was sitting here on IRC.... in #ubuntu... :)
[05:27] <ianorlin> why not hook up an old box to an external hard drive with lubuntu
[05:28] <Guerrilla> how do you get screensavers?
[05:28] <reisio> Guerrilla: install them
[05:28] <wad> !behelpful | reisio
[05:28]  * wad snickers
[05:28] <Guerrilla> reiso considered joining #smartasses?
[05:28] <Guerrilla> or perhaps #captainobviouses
[05:29] <Onixs> yeah. agree
[05:29] <wad> Actually, I want to know how to get screensavers too. A while back, I managed to (painfully) get one to work. It was a horrendous experience, and the thing crashed my box multiple times.
[05:29] <wad> I finally had to do surgery to remove it, and this poor laptop hasn't been the same since.
[05:30] <wad> Now I get errors at random times, having to do with some video thingamabob.
[05:30] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: hi :)
[05:30] <Paulus68_1> Guerrilla: perhaps this might be helpfull http://askubuntu.com/questions/64086/how-can-i-change-or-install-screensavers
[05:30]  * wad clicks
[05:30] <hitsujiTMO> what do you want screensavers for ... they come on when your NOT using the computer.
[05:30] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday: hey again
[05:31] <hitsujiTMO> and screensavers go off when you ARE using the computer
[05:31] <wad> Avoid xscreensaver !!!
[05:31] <wad> That was the awful thing that screwed me up so hard.
[05:31] <wad> A screensaver is Important for me.
[05:31] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: I see this while configuring a package configure: error: need GL stuff to build monitor
[05:31] <s_faraday> , so I install freeglut libraries but it dose'nt work
[05:31] <wad> When I step away from my computer at work, I lock the screen.
[05:31] <wad> But I need to know if it was locked, or it's off.
[05:32] <wad> A screensaver tells me which laptop is mine, and that it's locked.
[05:32]  * wilee-nilee hums "nobody knows the trouble i've seen"
[05:32] <Paulus68_1> hitsujiTMO: people use them as photo frame :p
[05:32] <hitsujiTMO> s_faraday:  sudo apt-get install binutils-gold      might help
[05:32] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: memtest run, no errors
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> Paulus68_1: silly people
[05:33] <reisio> one or two screensavers actually do useful things
[05:33] <reisio> like crunch numbers for worthy causes
[05:33] <reisio> but in general yeah I hateses them
[05:33] <reisio> I used to replace the default screensaver file for Windows installs with the blank one at work
[05:34] <reisio> seeing that stupid logo appearing and reappearing out of the corner of my eye
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: i'm putting my money on the gpu heating cpu problem then. a failing harddrive wouldn't normally cause a reboot
[05:34]  * reisio stabs
[05:34] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: any recommendation for temp monitor
[05:34] <Paulus68_1> wilee-nilee: describe trouble?
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> acecabana: have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[05:35]  * hitsujiTMO needs to go to bed. 
[05:35] <Paulus68_1> hitsujiTMO: goodnight
[05:35] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: goodnight :)
[05:35] <hitsujiTMO> night guuuuuuuuys
[05:35] <xmetal> was a time i managed to trick MYSELF with the "BSOD Screen saver" ... forgot i installed it and saw BSOD  on screen
[05:35] <xmetal> lol
[05:35] <reisio> heh
[05:35] <ObrienDave> LMAO
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Paulus68_1, Heh, none here, just my oblique comment on wad's need to share theirs.
[05:36] <Paulus68_1> xmetal:  that might have caused you a hart attack :p
[05:37] <digitalw00t> Guys..does anyone remember how to connect a linux box with pppd?  Trying to get a 2g edge device to connect.
[05:37] <ObrienDave> or a quick change of pants
[05:37] <ianorlin> I wonder if you could do that with tilda
[05:37] <acecabana> hitsujiTMO: sensors reporting normal temps 55 degree range
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:38] <Paulus68_1> lotuspsychje: my man :)
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Paulus68_1: hello mate :p
[05:40] <xmetal> "oh for god sakes ... what did windows do now?!... oh yes ... the screen saver "
[05:40] <xmetal> lol
[05:41] <Corey> Sorry, I'm a bit behind the curve. Am I to understand that the release that just came out is EOL in 9 months?
[05:41] <ObrienDave> yes
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !releasenotes | Corey
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> Corey, Yes but one released about a year and a half ago is is good for 3 1/2 years 12.04 a long term release.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> 3 1/2 form now
[05:44]  * lotuspsychje is waiting to install 14.04 alpha
[05:44] <Corey> wilee-nilee: Yes, I'm vaguely aware of the LTS model. But 9 months seems to be a bit of a departure from the way things used to be if I'm not mistaken.
[05:44] <ObrienDave> new model
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> true
[05:45] <xmetal> i am waiting for ubuntu and mint (may grab both ISO's) 14.04 and 16, respectively
[05:45] <xmetal> next  year
[05:45] <reisio> xmetal: why's that
[05:45] <xmetal> both are going to be LTS's
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> xmetal: im thinking of installing 14.04 alpha and contribute and bug fixing
[05:46] <reisio> xmetal: so?
[05:46] <moondog> I think Mint 16 will be based on 13.10
[05:46] <ObrienDave> I get the 14.04 daily for testing
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: got an url for that mate?
[05:47] <xmetal> usually i'd say away from alpha, but that (contributing to bug fixes) may be a good idea if your willing to do it
[05:47] <ObrienDave> sure, sec
[05:47] <ObrienDave> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: tnx mate
[05:48] <ObrienDave> np
[05:48] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje let me get you a rsych command. sec
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: did you test trusty desktop yet?
[05:49] <ObrienDave> run it in Vbox everyday
[05:50] <ObrienDave> cd /home/david/Downloads && zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync && rm *.zs-old
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: first impressions?
[05:50] <ObrienDave> looks like 13.10
[05:50] <ianorlin> art is updated later
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: buggy in your case?
[05:50] <ObrienDave> nope
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: tnx for feedback ill install it :p
[05:51] <ObrienDave> welcome
[05:52] <ObrienDave> sorry that rsync is for Xubuntu. adjust as needed
[05:53] <s_faraday> hi guys
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: i can just click n save the iso right
[05:53] <b1454_4tj4> hoola
[05:53] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje yup, burn to DVD or USB as you like
[05:54] <s_faraday> i'm trying to compile a package for installing and see this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374619/
[05:54] <s_faraday> what's wrong with that?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: i like the sound of 5 years support :p and if it looks like 13.10 even more great
[05:54] <b1454_4tj4> help?
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !ask | b1454_4tj4
[05:55] <b1454_4tj4> how to rebuild ubuntu or remastering
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !remastersys | b1454_4tj4
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[05:55] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje sorry, I've been using the Xubuntu daily. Your mileage may vary ;)
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> !remaster
[05:55] <b1454_4tj4> !remaster
[05:56] <ObrienDave> !42
[05:56] <ObrienDave> sorry, just HAD to
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: np ill use the ubuntu desktop trusty
[05:56] <linuxlite1969> 42 ubottu
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: im little confused, site said alpha comes out in december, in what stage is it now?
[05:57] <ObrienDave> lotuspsychje just a daily build afaik
[05:57] <Corvette> If you install Ubuntu 13 on a new Windows 8 Touch laptop will the touch-screen just work?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> !touch | Corvette
[05:58] <FailDrain> My left and right and middle mouse button stop working on every single sesssion type for some reason is there a way to reset it?
[05:58] <FailDrain> I'm using a wacom tablet mouse
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: regular ubuntu desktop doesnt support touchscreen mate
[05:58] <Corvette> lotuspsychje thank you
[05:58] <xmetal> hmm
[05:59] <Corvette> second question if you install windows 7 on a windows 8 touch pc will the touch screen just work
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: some devices can be installed with ubuntu touch
[05:59] <xmetal> try unplugging it and plugging it b ack in
[05:59] <FailDrain> and I had to nagivate to terminal through key presses not fun
[05:59] <FailDrain> I'll try again :)
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> !nexus7 | Corvette
[05:59] <FailDrain> nope still doesn't work only thing that works is mouse movement
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Corvette: thats a question for ##windows channel mate :p
[06:00] <FailDrain> xmetal
[06:00] <Corvette> k
[06:00] <ObrienDave> Corvette If the OS does not support touch, it will probably NOT work
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: so its in a test build stage, before alpha comes out?
[06:00] <ObrienDave> yep
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> ObrienDave: tnx
[06:01] <wafflejock> believe Win 7 has touch support to some degree but a others say you'll need to look for support from MS channels most likely
[06:01]  * lotuspsychje is excited :p
[06:01] <FailDrain> xmetal: what do you suggest I do now :< I need a solution before my os becomes unusable mouse wise
[06:01] <ObrienDave> wafflejock that's why I said 'probably'
[06:02] <FailDrain> can someone help me with my mouse problem
[06:03] <FailDrain> left , right and middle button don't work only mouse movement :/ it doesn't work on any other my sessions types gnome classic , gnome , cairo dock , ubuntu , system default all have the issue
[06:03] <wafflejock> FailDrain: has it ever worked?
[06:04] <FailDrain> wafflejock: yes but then something happens that I'm not really sure what and it doesn't work anymore and keeps bringing up system problem error
[06:04] <xmetal> if it did work before i'd back track what i did (say a kernel upgrade via package manager) to try to find the solution
[06:04] <wafflejock> FailDrain: having details on the system problem may help
[06:04] <FailDrain> wafflejock: I can't really do much to help my mouse don't work
[06:04] <FailDrain> I can go through terminal maybe
[06:05] <ianorlin> control alt t
[06:05] <wafflejock> yeah basically Ctrl+Alt+T
[06:05] <wafflejock> then you can do stuff from there
[06:05] <ianorlin> you can even do irc with weechat with no mouse
[06:05] <wafflejock> what model wacom device?
[06:05] <FailDrain> brillant thanks for that tip with the ctrl alt t
[06:05] <wafflejock> do lsusb in the console if it's usb to get details
[06:06] <FailDrain>  wacom CTE  650
[06:06] <deper29> FailDrain: mice are overrated.
[06:06] <FailDrain> bamboo wacom
[06:07] <wafflejock> FailDrain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967147&page=28 <may help
[06:07] <FailDrain> how would I go to that link through keyboard presses? :<
[06:07] <wafflejock> agree mice are overrated but if he has a wacom he probably disagrees :)
[06:07] <xmetal> have another mouse to try ... or another OS (say windows) ..if it fails in windows too .. maybe the mouse "is going bad"
[06:07] <wafflejock> Alt+F2 believe is default for run command
[06:07] <wafflejock> winkey if you're in unity to get to search
[06:07]  * xmetal hmmm did i just say that last part
[06:07] <wafflejock> hold winkey then number for launcher
[06:07] <xmetal> ?
[06:07] <deper29> wafflejock: that is true :P
[06:07] <FailDrain> how is that run command going to help :< I can't copy the link
[06:08] <FailDrain> THIS IS PISSING ME OFF GUYS LOL royally
[06:08] <deper29> !caps | FailDrain
[06:08] <wafflejock> FailDrain: no backup mouse?
[06:08] <FailDrain> this mouse is the only one that works
[06:08] <FailDrain> the other one got a usb wire shortage from rough use :/
[06:08] <deper29> FailDrain: is the mouse not working at all?
[06:09] <FailDrain> it doesn't even light up that trust mouse don't
[06:09] <FailDrain> I'll try it
[06:09] <ianorlin> can you run lsusb
[06:09] <ianorlin> assuming is usb mouse
[06:09] <xmetal> hmm just found a few mice here i didn't reemmber having
[06:09] <xmetal> lol
[06:09] <deper29> wafflejock: the mouse he's using now, does it not work at all?
[06:09] <wafflejock> deper29: he said moves on screen but no buttons
[06:09] <deper29> ahh
[06:09] <wafflejock> deper29: has worked in teh past and stops after some time
[06:10] <wafflejock> deper29: not really sure?
[06:10] <kelly69> hello guys, I've a notebook with these specs : CPU: 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U , 120gb SSD , 2GB RAM , intel vga is it good to run ubuntu 13,10? if yes what should i install 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:10] <FailDrain> trust mouse is fuzzed -____-
[06:10] <FailDrain> WAIT
[06:10] <ObrienDave> FailDrain new mouse, 15 bucks
[06:10] <FailDrain> hold on
[06:10] <FailDrain> haha omg it lit up
[06:10] <Romance> kelly69: 2gb ram, go for 32bit
[06:10] <FailDrain> found the trick postion for the wire to work again ;>
[06:10] <kelly69> Romance, thank you
[06:10] <wafflejock> FailDrain: ah hardware
[06:11] <Guest97607> i m using ubuntu 13.10...i m unable to connet to my wifi..can any body help me how
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> kelly69: your system will rock with ubuntu and ssd
[06:11] <wafflejock> indeed
[06:11] <ianorlin> lsusb if it is detected
[06:11] <wafflejock> Guest97607: what kind of wifi card, have you checked compatibility...
[06:11] <kelly69> lotuspsychje, thanx i will download it not *_*
[06:11] <wafflejock> !details | Guest97607
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> kelly69: not?
[06:12] <wafflejock> Guest97607: if you're just not sure where to start that's fine too just want to know if you have debugged at all yet?
[06:12] <FailDrain> fuck you wacom tablet hello trust mouse <3
[06:12] <Guest97607> i m using 13.10
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !language | FailDrain
[06:12] <FailDrain> sorry about that
[06:12] <kelly69> lotuspsychje, sorry :) i mean i download it now
[06:13] <Guest97607> i m new to ubuntu
[06:13] <FailDrain> so weird using this mouse haha
[06:14] <wafflejock> Guest97607: okay do you know what kind of wireless adapter you have? if not we can do a few things to find out
[06:14] <Guest97607> cisco
[06:14] <wafflejock> Guest97607: are you familiar with using the terminal?
[06:14] <Guest97607> i m a docter
[06:14] <Romance> ...
[06:14] <wafflejock> Guest97607: basically just hit Ctrl+Alt+T to get a terminal
[06:14] <s_faraday> how can I enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories?
[06:14] <deper29> Guest97607: do all doctors spell doctor wrong?
[06:15] <Guest97607> sry
[06:15] <FailDrain> Guest97607: is that a I am doctor reference from that song :P{
[06:15] <FailDrain> Ohh!
[06:15] <Guest97607> typing mistake
[06:15] <FailDrain> nevermind
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> !repo | s_faraday
[06:15] <wafflejock> Guest97607: in the window that pops up type lsusb if it's a usb adapter or lcpci if it's a built in or card adapter
[06:15] <ObrienDave> s_faraday software updater, settings
[06:15] <deper29> Guest97607: 'lspci | grep -i network'
[06:16] <deper29> er, I'm assuming it's built in with my command
[06:16] <s_faraday> ObrienDave: thanks
[06:16] <wafflejock> Guest97607: what deper29 said will narrow down to just stuff that says network in it
[06:16] <wafflejock> oh and he's gone
[06:16] <Romance> he's a docter, he got patients to handle
[06:16] <deper29> wafflejock: guess his problem was solved
[06:16] <wafflejock> haha
[06:16] <deper29> Romance: Lol!
[06:16] <ObrienDave> another happy customer ;))
[06:17] <wafflejock> apparently the emergency pager went off
[06:17] <deper29> I don't even know why I'm here. I don't even use Ubuntu
[06:17] <wafflejock> ah doctors so kind and intelligent and so technolgically lost
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:18] <deper29> I guess I just like helping people who use the distro I started with
[06:19] <TheyTookErJobs> deper, thank you for helping us out :) I am brand new to linux and it's extremely frustrating getting help oonline when you don't even know what to look for hah
[06:20] <TheyTookErJobs> I wish they had an online help desk to save you in emergencies. I'd pay a good $15/hr
[06:20] <TheyTookErJobs> $20 if you explain it while you fix my messups :)
[06:20] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: this place helped me so much when I first started. I don't mind sitting in here and paying it back
[06:21] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah Ubuntu is a good starting point, I started with Red Hat way back when, but didn't like KDE then switched to SuSe then around version 6 I think I checked out Ubuntu but it was flaky, lived in windows for a few years and have moved back to Ubuntu and now Kubuntu
[06:21] <TheyTookErJobs> Question - is swap suppose to be a primary or logical partition?
[06:21] <TheyTookErJobs> and does it matter if it's at the beginning or end?
[06:21] <TheyTookErJobs> same question with /
[06:21] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: primary is how I've always set it up
[06:22] <TheyTookErJobs> yeah I don't really know the difference between primary or logical
[06:22] <xmetal> first linux i tried was RH, though it didn't support my graph. card so EVERYTHING was in command line
[06:22] <xmetal> lol
[06:22] <xangua> TheyTookErJobs: canonical offers pay support
[06:22] <deper29> wafflejock: I've never used redhat. I guess my desktop runs mint, but I just use that to ssh into and talk to you guys. My mom runs Kubuntu oddly enough. Now I can help her when she has issues :)
[06:22] <xmetal> i agree ... Ubuntu is a good starting point
[06:22] <TheyTookErJobs> canonical huh....
[06:23] <deper29> I'm currently using Gentoo and I love it. I can't provide much help in #gentoo though. those guys are wizards sometimes
[06:23] <xangua> TheyTookErJobs: yes, you kno, the company that develops ubuntu huh... ;)
[06:23] <deper29> I usually recommend people start with Ubuntu.
[06:23] <TheyTookErJobs> ah, good to know this stuff. This is how new I am.
[06:23] <wafflejock> deper29: yeah gentoo is a hardcore community like arch
[06:24]  * xmetal agree's with deper
[06:24] <TheyTookErJobs> Now, if I have 2 ntfs partitions on /dev/sda, put the swap on /dev/sda3 and the root on /dev/sda4 should I put the device for boot loader on /dev/sda?
[06:24] <TheyTookErJobs> or /dev/sda4?
[06:24] <deper29> wafflejock: man, they are insane. I tried arch before. they have *great* documentation. their community is no good in irc though :(
[06:24] <deper29> and I really do not like pacman
[06:24] <wafflejock> deper29: ah bummer I hear the wiki is great I haven't dove in yet though
[06:25] <xmetal> i plan to learn Arch, though dont have the patiences atm
[06:25] <xmetal> -s
[06:25] <deper29> wafflejock: it's the best documentation I've seen. I still refer back to it sometimes because of how good it is. I mean, the Gentoo docs are good for stuff specific to Gentoo(use flags and such), but for setting things up arch wiki is great
[06:26] <deper29> xmetal: It's worth it I think. I just hated pacman so much.
[06:26] <TheyTookErJobs> any suggestions on my question? I'm going to throw it on /dev/sda because I think that's where the master boot record would be
[06:27] <xmetal> not counting  "debian-branch" distros ... i have used slack for a bit and am comfortable with it
[06:27] <Erealz> hi everyone i have a quick question i recently reinstall ubuntu on my desktop pc to use as my home server i installed ssh i however dont know what i have to edit to allow remote login for the first time around can some one please help tia.
[06:27] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: why two NTFS partitions? also curious are you setting this up manually?
[06:28] <xmetal> i think (please someone correct me if i am wrong) thats where grub goes
[06:28] <deper29> Erealz: you want port forward for one
[06:28] <TheyTookErJobs> I am. I just whiped my drive and trying to install kubuntu. It does not give me the option to install next to windows like ubuntu does
[06:28] <xmetal> i always use gparted first and set up the partitions, manually myself
[06:28] <xmetal> of course i know exsactly how i want it on my own system
[06:28] <Erealz> i shouldnt leave the defoult port of 22
[06:28] <Erealz> ?
[06:28] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: ah okay was curious because of this http://askubuntu.com/questions/149821/my-laptop-already-has-4-primary-partitions-how-can-i-install-ubuntu
[06:28] <deper29> Erealz: meh, I leave it as 22
[06:29] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: know others have run into issues because of the number of partitions
[06:29] <deper29> you should be using ssh keys instead of password anyway
[06:29] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: believe it was windows that was complaining though
[06:29] <Erealz> please pvt msg me bro
[06:29] <deper29> Erealz: then you want to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:29] <Erealz> ok
[06:29] <wafflejock> indeed keys
[06:30] <deper29> Erealz: no need to pm. Someone else in here might benefit from the same question you have
[06:30] <Erealz> ok
[06:30] <TheyTookErJobs> Probably, windows automatically creates a second partition of like 104 megs or so. One partition is 104 while the other is 54gigs. I don't know if kubuntu supports automatic installation next to windows or if you have to always manually config it. I just installed windows 30 minutes ago on a fresh drive so...
[06:30] <xmetal>  wipes your drive .. well then thats why its not seeing windows
[06:30] <Erealz> ill try to keep up
[06:30] <xmetal> its not there
[06:30] <Erealz> but please for now with password what part needs the editing
[06:30] <Erealz> or line...?
[06:31] <xmetal> (i always say install MS OS's first, THEN Linux)
[06:31] <xmetal> while its not impossible to fix grub the other-way-around ... its just eaiser
[06:31] <TheyTookErJobs> but install the boot loader on /dev/sda or the /dev/sda4 where the / partition is?
[06:31] <deper29> Erealz: hold on, let me look at mine
[06:32] <xmetal> i think /dev/sda (but as I said folks, if i am wrong, please correct me)
[06:32] <xmetal> (for the boot loader)
[06:32] <Erealz> k
[06:32] <Erealz> thank
[06:32] <deper29> Erealz: you want to uncomment the line that has your port
[06:32] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[06:32] <Erealz> k
[06:32] <Erealz> hold let me login and check
[06:32] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: yeah not sure I ended up wiping my dual boot and putting windows in a VM
[06:33] <TheyTookErJobs> yeah. I know windows is there. Fresh drive and fresh windo See I would do that if it wasn't for Steam and Star Citizen ;\
[06:33] <TheyTookErJobs> It's amazing how many games run on Linux now but not all of them
[06:33] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: I'm trying to figure it out honestly not entirely sure about the MBR location vs /boot folder that grub depends on and which one you're referring to or if it matters... someone else chime in??
[06:33] <deper29> wafflejock: ?
[06:34] <deper29> what is trying to be done?
[06:34] <wafflejock> deper29: installing windows with Kubuntu but just a question about where grub is installed and if the MBR portion lives on the first partition?
[06:34] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: install grub on /dev/sda most likely
[06:34] <deper29> wafflejock: I think ubuntu only has one partition by default, no?
[06:35] <TheyTookErJobs> k, giving it a whirl.... Hopefully it sees it
[06:35] <deper29> so it would live on the first partition. Unless you are manually making partitions
[06:35] <ianorlin> doesn't it also create a swap
[06:35] <wafflejock> yeah swap is separate
[06:35] <deper29> yeah, that's right
[06:35] <wafflejock> windows doesn't see it as a separate partition but to Linux it is
[06:35] <wafflejock> boot is usually on the main partition I believe
[06:35] <TheyTookErJobs> I wonder if I should have created the / partition right after the windows partitions and then the swap at the end
[06:35] <deper29> wafflejock: that's correct
[06:35] <wafflejock> but not sure about the MBR... always gone with the auto side by side
[06:36] <Erealz> deper29 under where it says what ports , ip and protocols we listen for it uncomment port set to 22
[06:36] <wafflejock> or clean install
[06:36] <Erealz> is that it?
[06:36] <deper29> Erealz: yeah
[06:36] <Erealz> ok hold on a tic there somehting wrong here
[06:36] <deper29> Erealz:  are you on this machine now?
[06:37] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I don't think it's happy. The install already froze... something's wrong.
[06:37] <Erealz> yyea bro what up?
[06:37] <Erealz> im sitting infront since i cant remote in ....yet....
[06:37] <deper29> Erealz: once you do that, save the file and let me know
[06:37] <Erealz> iiiiiight
[06:38] <Erealz> let me see cuz like i said there somthing wrong here checking
[06:38] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[06:38] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: are you trying to install grub?
[06:38] <Erealz> and what i mean that the file was already uncommented and set to 22
[06:38] <TheyTookErJobs> nah I'm installing KuBuntu which is KDE
[06:38] <Erealz> but again hold on let me check
[06:38] <deper29> Erealz: oh, if that's the case
[06:38] <TheyTookErJobs> oh grub is the bootloader...
[06:39] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: yeah not gnome :)
[06:39] <deper29> correct :)
[06:39] <TheyTookErJobs> hah too many different things :) Blows my mind
[06:39] <deper29> do people stil use lilo?
[06:39] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: I'd suggest just reading through that page though to be sure you get it right
[06:39] <wafflejock> deper29: not sure heard about that for like 10 minutes :)
[06:40] <deper29> I've actually never used lilo
[06:40] <s_faraday> lotuspsychje: i already enable universe and multiserver, and want to do this:
[06:40] <s_faraday> ObrienDave:      $ sudo apt-add-repository ppa:gnurubuntu/rubuntu      $ sudo apt-get update      $ sudo apt-get install rcssserver3d
[06:40] <Erealz> havnt use lilo in years....still checking
[06:40] <wafflejock> LILO is an alternative for GRUB. It is the LInux boot LOader. Because GRUB is has more features it is commonly used with most distributions. LILO is smaller, brilliant for booting from floppy disk, but otherwise legacy. (I'm sure some people will get angry with me for saying LILO is legacy, but for current full blown desktop distributions it can be considered as such)
[06:41] <s_faraday> ObrienDave: but the last command show Unable to locate package rcssserver3d-dev
[06:41] <s_faraday> this:
[06:41] <deper29> wafflejock: lol, it's totally legacy
[06:41] <wafflejock> SO post
[06:41] <wafflejock> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135426/what-is-lilo-and-its-uses
[06:42] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I restarted and choose to wipe it and it still froze. Must be b/c I had fedora on it and is probably getting confused on the gpt tables
[06:42] <Erealz> yea
[06:43] <Erealz> nop not working
[06:43] <linuxlite1983> hi
[06:43] <xmetal> i think even recent versions of slackware use lilio, though i installed grub on it
[06:43] <linuxlite1983> anyone here knows how to use metasploit?
[06:43] <deper29> Erealz: you uncommented it?
[06:44] <deper29> or was it commented?
[06:44] <linuxlite1983> anyone?
[06:44] <linuxlite1983> hahaha
[06:44] <deper29> Erealz: wait, you installed openssh, yes?
[06:44] <Erealz> the port it self yes was uncommented
[06:44] <Erealz> yes
[06:44] <linuxlite1983> i managed to install nmap and metasploit on my machine
[06:44] <xmetal> hmm ...cant remember what they changed the name to, but that sounds like a back trace question
[06:44] <deper29> Erealz: no, the line needs to be uncommented
[06:44] <Erealz> otherwise wouldnt that folder ssh not be in etc
[06:44] <linuxlite1983> now my question is how can i get started?
[06:45] <xmetal> (metaspoilt
[06:45] <xmetal> )
[06:45] <deper29> Erealz: ...good point :P
[06:45] <Erealz> wait
[06:45] <deper29> Erealz: 'sudo service sshd start'
[06:45] <linuxlite1983> xmetal can u help?
[06:45] <xmetal> google is a good start
[06:45] <starnix1> linuxlite1983: Its a nmap a port scanner and metasploit a frame work for exploitation for vuln. in applications/OS.
[06:46] <Erealz> shouldnt it be ssh?
[06:46] <linuxlite1983> well it appears google cant help.
[06:46] <Erealz> not sshd?
[06:46] <linuxlite1983> can you tell me the things i need to know or need to learn? b4 using metasploit
[06:46] <starnix1> linuxlite1983: may I know the reason you installed it ?
[06:47] <Erealz> matter fact i try that ssh without the D and it saying job is already running
[06:47] <ObrienDave> s_faraday no new packages since quantal. change the version to quantal
[06:47] <linuxlite1983> for educational purposes only. by the way im a student
[06:47] <linuxlite1983> IT student to be specific
[06:48] <deper29> Erealz: no, sshd
[06:48]  * xmetal thinks "good grief" 
[06:48] <starnix1> linuxlite1983: http://www.securitytube.net/groups?operation=view&groupId=10 <-- this might help you.
[06:48] <TheyTookErJobs> linuxlite I doubt alot of people here know metasploit ;)
[06:48] <wafflejock> jacktheripper ?
[06:48] <TheyTookErJobs> Although I would encourage you to try BackTrack
[06:48] <Erealz> negativ bro
[06:48] <deper29> Erealz: it's the ssh daemon
[06:48] <Erealz> i know bro
[06:48] <linuxlite1983> ok thanks. ill try
[06:48] <xmetal> hmm ... they did change the name
[06:48] <xmetal> cant remember to what though
[06:49] <wafflejock> sry john*
[06:49] <Erealz> but i just typed it like you wanted and it says unrecognized service
[06:49] <linuxlite1983> i think i need to know the metasploit basics first b4 going to backtrack
[06:49] <wafflejock> jack is the other guy :(
[06:49] <pradeep> pradeep
[06:49] <Erealz> and i did it my way and it say job already running soooo?...yeah....
[06:49] <deper29> Erealz: okay, 'sudo service sshd restart'
[06:49] <deper29> then try 'ssh localhost'
[06:49] <starnix1> linuxlite1983: metasploit and backtrack/kali -linux now is two different things.
[06:50] <Erealz> sshd unrecognized service
[06:50] <linuxlite1983> ok.
[06:50] <Erealz> sotmhing funky here bro
[06:50] <s_faraday> ObrienDave: do you mean I should install ubuntu 12.10??
[06:51] <wafflejock> linuxlite1983: also I totally am not a criminal hacker and don't advocate criminal hacking whatsoever but crackstation.net is interesting to see MD5 hashes solved instantly, good to understand how you may be attacked if you are planning for any sort of security
[06:51] <xmetal> kali
[06:51] <xmetal> thats it
[06:51] <ObrienDave> NO, change the repo source to quantal
[06:51] <deper29> Erealz: 'sudo apt-get install openssh-client openssh-server'
[06:51] <Erealz> ill try right now hold on
[06:51] <linuxlite1983> ok thanks waffle
[06:52] <deper29> kali, that's the new backtrack yes?
[06:52] <deper29> wafflejock: Interesting. I'm going to check that site out
[06:53] <Erealz> says both is already the newest version
[06:53] <ObrienDave> s_faraday change the repo source to quantal
[06:53] <linuxlite1983> anyone knows a site that covers the metasploit basics in a shorter way?
[06:53] <deper29> Erealz: 'sudo service ssh restart'
[06:53] <deper29> though I could have sworn it was sshd.
[06:54]  * xmetal sighs
[06:54] <Erealz> yea its just ssh bro
[06:54] <deper29> Erealz: 'ssh localhost'
[06:54] <Erealz> ssh top waiting assh start/running
[06:54] <Erealz> ill try hold plz
[06:55] <deper29> I'm not goingg anywhere. It's only 1am here
[06:55] <TheyTookErJobs> grrr ubuntu and NVIDIA HATE each other
[06:55] <TheyTookErJobs> like, absolutely hate
[06:55] <s_faraday> ObrienDave: oh, thanks, how can I do that?
[06:55] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: what's the issue?
[06:55] <linuxlite1983> anyone?
[06:55] <deper29> nvidia and 3.11 kernel hate each other more
[06:55] <linuxlite1983> anyone knows a site that covers the metasploit basics in a shorter way?
[06:56] <Erealz> ok i think i know i fuckt around with somthing about public key witch i never use ...
[06:56] <ObrienDave> s_faraday software updater, settings
[06:56] <Erealz> let me see if  i find that line
[06:56] <TheyTookErJobs> I am trying to install kubuntu on my desktop but it freezes after it formats the drive. I checked the log and tons of modules fail to load with the first one being nvidia
[06:56] <deper29> Erealz: what is it saying?
[06:56] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: you could blacklist the nvidia module for the time being?
[06:56] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: are you using 13.10?
[06:57] <xmetal> bad burn?
[06:57] <ObrienDave> s_faraday find the PPA listing, change sourse to quantal
[06:57] <xmetal> or ISO ?
[06:57] <ObrienDave> *source
[06:57] <TheyTookErJobs> Not sure what the most recent kubuntu flavor is
[06:57] <xmetal> (assuming this is not a flash drive)
[06:57] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: if so I would probably go 13.04 or earlier I imagine 13.10 may still be a bit shaky
[06:57] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: or try nouveau?
[06:57] <apb1963> On Windoze I'm able to select "stereo mix" to pipe music into a chat room... does anyone know the equivalent way to do that with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:58] <apb1963> I'm using amarok
[06:58] <wafflejock> 12.04 is the latest LTS (long term support) release 13.10 is brand new (october 2013) I'm running 13.04 but on my laptop so intel graphics
[06:58] <TheyTookErJobs> hah I have no idea how to do any of this waffle/deper ;) I assume put nomodeset=1 in the boot grub?
[06:58] <apb1963> to play music of the Net
[06:58] <reisio> apb1963: with jack, or some pulse extension/config
[06:58] <apb1963> reisio: hmm
[06:59] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: wafflejock might know more. I can't remember how to blacklist a module.
[06:59] <deper29> hold on, I'll find out
[06:59] <deper29> :P
[06:59] <apb1963> guess i'll go google jack... thank you
[07:00] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[07:00] <wafflejock> TheyTookErJobs: should just be nodemodeset as an option no =
[07:00] <Erealz> daper you there?
[07:01] <sasuke> hi
[07:01] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I'll give it a go. I remember using the nomodeset was when getting a blank screen. Not freezing.
[07:01] <TheyTookErJobs> Hey sasuke
[07:01] <sasuke> hi
[07:01] <deper29> Erealz: here
[07:01] <Erealz> k
[07:01] <sasuke> this is cool
[07:02] <Erealz>  i think i screw the pooch on this one
[07:02] <deper29> Erealz: why?
[07:02] <xmetal> ah ha ...
[07:02] <Erealz> it giveing a public key error i think fuckt up the config file
[07:02] <Erealz> so
[07:02] <xmetal> !nomodeset
[07:03] <Erealz> i i just uninstall the service and reinstall and start again would that work
[07:03] <xmetal> i had to do that on one of my pc's with a modern distro
[07:03] <deper29> Erealz: no, no need to do that
[07:03] <Erealz> to get the original config file  i mean?
[07:03] <deper29> that wouldn't do it anyway
[07:03] <deper29> pastebin your config
[07:04] <Erealz> i commented publicatuthentication and still wtf!!!
[07:04] <Erealz> k
[07:04] <Erealz> hold
[07:04] <Erealz> wait
[07:04] <Erealz> how
[07:04] <Erealz> im on the console
[07:04] <Erealz> there no gui
[07:05] <deper29> Erealz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:06] <Erealz> deper29 listen i think ill do a reinstall
[07:06] <Erealz> i have nothing on the server
[07:06] <Erealz> anyways
[07:07] <Erealz> it it as simple as uncommented the port
[07:07] <sasuke> this is cool wow
[07:07] <Erealz> witch not for nothing i dont think will work cuz i can almost suar that it waslready uncommented
[07:08] <sasuke> lol
[07:09] <Erealz> daper ill try this last thing but iv never used itb4
[07:09] <sasuke> HI
[07:09] <Erealz> what is command line syntax?
[07:09] <abdullatif> 14.04 start alpha?
[07:10] <k1l_> abdullatif: that needs some time, still
[07:10] <alusion> my friend is having networking issues connecting to wifi
[07:10] <alusion> this is a tail from dmesg http://i.imgur.com/tpILina.png
[07:10] <sasuke> anyone wanna help me instal windows 7 ?
[07:10] <alusion> I already went through standard troubleshooting
[07:10] <k1l_> sasuke: ask in ##windows for windows support
[07:11] <Erealz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6374845
[07:11] <alusion> and tried sudo rfkill unblock all
[07:11] <xmetal> uh
[07:11] <xmetal> wrong room
[07:11] <k1l_> abdullatif: alpha1 14.04 is scheduled for 19th december
[07:11] <xmetal>  /channel... whatever
[07:12] <Erealz> can some one please help me with my ssh config file
[07:12] <deper29> Erealz: you have password authentication disabled
[07:13] <deper29> if you want to login with a password, change no to yes
[07:13] <deper29> and restart ssh
[07:13] <Erealz> k hold let me check that
[07:14] <deper29> alusion: shouldn't it be wlan0?
[07:14] <alusion> yeah
[07:14] <alusion> but it's not
[07:14] <alusion> I sometimes get that error message too on my debian machine
[07:14] <deper29> strange. Correct drivers?
[07:14] <alusion> otheres have had issues with his particular thinkpad
[07:15] <alusion> im gunna find out about drivers tomorrow if i cant troubleshoot now
[07:15] <alusion> im troubleshooting over instant messaging and hes just on an iphone
[07:15] <deper29> alusion: that's strange. Usually thinkpad is pretty good. is it intel wireless?
[07:15] <alusion> Yes deper29
[07:15] <LuvLinuxOS> #start-ubuntu
[07:15] <alusion> it's intel wireless
[07:15] <alusion> ;_;
[07:16] <deper29> alusion: what is the card from lspci?
[07:16] <alusion> just type lspci?
[07:16] <deper29> alusion: 'lspci | grep -i network'
[07:16] <parad0xx_> Hi, I installed 12.04 today alongside my xp pro install, but ubuntu can't see my 2nd hard drive (internal), xp still can.  Any ideas?
[07:16] <ASHER1> hello i need please help about vnc log how i can see history if someone connect in my ubuntu from vnc?
[07:17] <Erealz> now it works
[07:17] <Erealz> yeiiiii
[07:17] <deper29> Erealz: I *strongly* recommend that you consider using ssh keys and disable password authentication though.
[07:17] <Erealz> i know iv herd
[07:17] <kingbeast_> what do you guys use to rip a dvd to avi with in Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Erealz> however iv never used them b4 dont know anyting about them
[07:18] <ASHER1> ?
[07:18] <deper29> Erealz: they are really easy to use. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html#openssh-keys
[07:19] <xmetal> i think VLC can do it
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: mplayer -dumpstream dvd:// -dumpfile foo
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: and then transcode foo as desired
[07:19] <Erealz> dud that pastebinit app is cool
[07:19] <deper29> you generate a public and private key. Your public key goes on the client, and the private key stays on the server.
[07:19] <reisio> kingbeast_: that's only good for a feature film, though, for lots of small titles you'd want dvdbackup or dvdrip or something
[07:19] <Erealz> i just figured out the syntax simple i know but i just guessed it
[07:19] <ASHER1> someone please can help me about that?
[07:20] <Erealz> so proud of my self
[07:20] <Erealz> and thanks for the help pro
[07:20] <Erealz> i know it a small thing
[07:20] <Erealz> but
[07:20] <reisio> ASHER1: what's up?
[07:20] <Erealz> it very much apreciated
[07:21] <deper29> Erealz: no problem :)
[07:21] <ASHER1> good i need please help about VNC Viewer 4
[07:21] <ASHER1> hello i need please help about vnc log how i can see history if someone connect in my ubuntu from vnc?
[07:21] <ASHER1> how i can see from ubuntu log how its connect
[07:21] <ASHER1> like see ip
[07:21] <kingbeast_> nvr mnd I'll just use handbrake
[07:22] <deper29> parad0xx_: does it just not show up in nautilus?
[07:22] <reisio> ASHER1: if there's an extant log, it'd be in /var/log/, otherwise you might have to configure logging
[07:22] <ASHER1> ok
[07:23] <ASHER1> but i can see from there ip ?
[07:23] <parad0xx_> I'm sorry, what is nautilus?  I know very little about *nix
[07:23] <ASHER1> if someone inside to my system then i see information?
[07:23] <k1l_> parad0xx: its the file-manager
[07:23] <deper29> parad0xx_: nautilus is just the file manager.
[07:23] <parad0xx_> yes, I see nothing in the file manager
[07:24] <reisio> ASHER1: you can configure such a thing, sure
[07:24] <deper29> parad0xx_: can you pastebin 'fdisk -l'?
[07:24] <ASHER1> what configure? you can please explain to me what i need to do for i can see history how connect from VNC Viewer
[07:28] <ASHER1> someone please help to me i try to find help about look history connect from VNC Viewer  remote desktop someone maybe to know about this?
[07:30] <abd-allah> hey ! my ubuntu 12.04 LTS can't find my speakers or headphones as output devices so I've no control over sound settings. What to do?
[07:31] <abd-allah> help me. Pls................
[07:32] <limace255> abd-allah: try to install/launch alsamixer
[07:32] <limace255> good tool to see what is available, but quite clear
[07:33] <limace255> depending on what you use, pavucontrol is helpful too
[07:33] <abd-allah> limace255: how?
[07:34] <limace255> apt-get install alsamixer, or
[07:34] <limace255> aptitude install alsamixer, or
[07:34] <limace255> launch synaptic, or any package manager
[07:36] <Rooey> hey peeps! 12.04 here too, with gnome shell. been using scangearmp with canon 2160 printer. now trying to install it for a canon mp640. it's .deb installed with ubuntu software centre
[07:36] <Rooey> *scangearmp-mp640series_1.40-1_i386.deb
[07:37] <Rooey> i see lucid users had used getlibs
[07:40] <TheyTookErJobs> I really wish I could just get ubuntu installed so I can start learning to use it instead of fighting just getting it running :(
[07:41] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: the fight is the learning :)
[07:41] <deper29> what are you running into now?
[07:41] <TheyTookErJobs> Same thing, the install get's frozen choosing the timezone
[07:41]  * xmetal agrees with deper
[07:41] <xmetal> :)
[07:41] <nikolam> hi, why packages.ubuntu.com display package names in a form 'Package <packagename> details' . It is rather annoying not to se package name at the firs place in line
[07:42] <nikolam> I visually need a lot time to read them
[07:42] <TheyTookErJobs> I've wiped the drive, wiped the gpt and mbr, tried to have it automatically partition, manually partitioned, put nomodeset on turned on the achi flag
[07:42] <xmetal> sounds like a bad burn/download (whatever) or hardware problems on the PC your trying to install on
[07:42] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: does the install complete at least?
[07:42] <TheyTookErJobs> nope. I just used this same burn to install it on my laptop just fine
[07:43] <deper29> I feel like I had this problem when I started using ubuntu
[07:44] <xmetal> had issues with mint 15 here (had to use nomodeset on desktop) ... same PC here mint 14 was fine
[07:44] <xmetal> but nomodeset did help
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> When I log at the /var/log/installer/debug I get Error opening file for reading: Permission denied, three invalid socket 15's, and a ton of warnings for nvidia driver
[07:44] <xmetal> alotof the issues are "cross-distro" if yoiu ask me
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> no :(
[07:44] <TheyTookErJobs> I set nomodeset = same thing
[07:44] <abd-allah> my default sound settings is not working on my ubuntu 12.04 LTS.It does not find any output device. .HOw to fix it.???
[07:45] <xmetal> i have never seen that before
[07:46] <Rooey> abd-allah: using a sound card?
[07:46] <TheyTookErJobs> I've gotten to the point of making a craigslist add offering $20/hr to help install and configure everything. I have been trying for months now every single day.
[07:46] <abd-allah> Rooey: No . It's integrated with motherboard on PC.
[07:47] <TheyTookErJobs> It's either power issues or install issues or this or that hah
[07:47] <TheyTookErJobs> I really don't think linux works ;\\
[07:47] <Rooey> "for months now every single day" i don't think you work
[07:48] <TheyTookErJobs> I do. I have just spent all my time off after work on it
[07:48] <reisio> TheyTookErJobs: find a LUG
[07:48] <Rooey> hehe ok
[07:48] <TheyTookErJobs> which is why I am so fustrated by it :(
[07:49] <Rooey> i installed 10.10 i think next to xp. have been upgrading til 12.04 so far
[07:49] <ASHER1> someone please help to me i try to find help about look history connect from VNC Viewer  remote desktop someone maybe to know about this?
[07:50] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: pay someone $20/hr to fix it? that is unacceptable. Let's fix this
[07:50] <reisio> it's not really
[07:50] <reisio> someone was paid to install the OS his computer came with
[07:51] <ianmac1> deper29, That's the Linux spirit!
[07:51] <deper29> reisio: ^
[07:51] <deper29> this
[07:51] <TheyTookErJobs> it's true. I see something on the web about removing ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[07:51] <TheyTookErJobs> buttonctl
[07:51] <reisio> it can be both :)
[07:52] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: so it stops as soon as you get to choose the timezone?
[07:52] <TheyTookErJobs> Yes Sir.
[07:52] <reisio> ASHER1: ls ~/.vnc/*.log
[07:53] <ASHER1> thanls
[07:53] <reisio> ASHER1: oh that's probably errors
[07:53] <ASHER1> thanks
[07:54] <ASHER1> cannot access /root/.vnc/*.log: No such file or directory
[07:54] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: argh, I can't remember what I did to fix that. I remember having that issue with 11.10, but I just gave up on the install and went with 10.04 at the time
[07:55] <ASHER1> reisio
[07:55] <deper29> so I never really fixed it. I think it was hardware?
[07:55] <ASHER1> how i can go there?
[07:56] <reisio> ASHER1: /home/foo/.vnc/
[07:57] <ASHER1> :\ not work
[07:57] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: nomodeset didn't fix it?
[07:57] <ASHER1> ash: /home/asher/vnc/: No such file or directory
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> It's weird because it is not actually frozen. I can move the mouse and select different timezones but the screen will not go on
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> the curser is just rotating
[07:57] <TheyTookErJobs> nomodeset did not fix it
[07:58] <reisio> TheyTookErJobs: try the minimalcd
[07:58] <deper29> !minimal
[07:58] <deper29> yeah, that could be a solution actually
[07:59] <TheyTookErJobs> It's the same exact problem in this thread but no answer: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1968722.html
[08:00] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56451/installer-hangs-get-stuck-at-where-are-you
[08:00] <deper29> does that work?
[08:00] <deper29> it seems too easy...
[08:01] <TheyTookErJobs> lol if this works....
[08:01] <TheyTookErJobs> one moment
[08:02] <TheyTookErJobs> gosh my desktop is so dusty
[08:02] <TheyTookErJobs> I need an aircompressor, can in a bottle is so expensive
[08:02] <frdmn> hello
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Hi frdmn
[08:03] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: if you go to Costco they have aircans 6 for $20
[08:03] <deper29> not a bad price
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> I did notice that kubuntu is not choosing to make a swap are.a This might be b/c I have 24gigs of ram but.... I tried making one manually and same thing
[08:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Yeah.... I need to find someone with a costco card then hah
[08:03] <deper29> aircans double up as a spray bottle for a cat if they are up to no good too
[08:04] <TheyTookErJobs> no deper, same thing :( frozen on where are you
[08:04] <deper29> dammit
[08:04] <deper29> !language | deper29
[08:05] <deper29> :P
[08:05] <TheyTookErJobs> lol
[08:05] <ianmac1> maybe it just can't find you. are you hiding on purpose?
[08:05]  * ianmac1 runs
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> I am actually :'(
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> but kubuntu doesn't have to know that
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> it's just so weird. It installed so perfectly on my laptop
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> not so much on the desktop
[08:06] <TheyTookErJobs> How am I suppose to hack the planet if I can't get it installed hrm?
[08:07] <ianmac1> I'd be willing to bet it's a hardware issue
[08:07] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I see another solution. Some people are switching their bios setting from ahci to raid. It installs, then they switch it back
[08:07] <deper29> seems like a nasty hack
[08:07] <deper29> but if it works
[08:07] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm, I did switch it from ahci to ide
[08:07] <TheyTookErJobs> but have not tried raid
[08:08] <Rooey> have u tried removing some of the 24gig ram?
[08:08] <frdmn> I have a problem while updating aptitude, yesterday I noticed I had a lot of packages to update so I updated the sources and issued an upgrade, this failed with the following error messages: http://hastebin.com/ritayecote
[08:09] <frdmn> its a productive customer system and I cant install any package right now
[08:09] <TheyTookErJobs> I am going to try the 13.10 installation. I thought that's what I've been using but just noticed it's 12.04 which I would prefer but...
[08:10] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs:
[08:10] <deper29> dammit
[08:10] <deper29> this is a good way to debug
[08:10] <TheyTookErJobs> It probably wouldn't hurt to do a memtest Rooey. I was getting several errors with Ubuntu 13.10. Not any with 12.04 though so I chalked it up to just being a beta
[08:11] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: boot up the kubuntu liveusb, click "try kubuntu"
[08:11] <TheyTookErJobs> erm, give me a minute deper. Memtest is running and I'm going to go make some tea :) Thank you so much for your help btw! I really REALLY appreciate it. I wish I could give you IRC gold
[08:12] <JOhnnyDepp> *cry*
[08:13] <JOhnnyDepp> ubuntu installation didnt format the harddisk instead it put itself in a tiny spot and the rest is still NTFS...
[08:13] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: then you click install kubuntu. If it freezes, you should still be able to access terminal and get some logs :)
[08:13] <TheyTookErJobs> frdmn, I am afraid that's way out of my own ballpark :(
[08:13] <JOhnnyDepp> how can I fix it and make the full harddsik my /home folder?
[08:13] <TheyTookErJobs> I've been getting to the terminal by doing ctrl+alt+f2 and getting logs. That's how I got the permission denied error
[08:16] <TheyTookErJobs> J0hnny, just wanted to let you know I am not ignoring you. I am just a newbie myself
[08:16] <JOhnnyDepp> :(
[08:16] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: ahh, I see. I did not know you had logs :'(
[08:17] <TheyTookErJobs> 00:44:37] <TheyTookErJobs> When I log at the /var/log/installer/debug I get Error opening file for reading: Permission denied, three invalid socket 15's, and a ton of warnings for nvidia driver
[08:17] <TheyTookErJobs> log=tired for look
[08:17] <JOhnnyDepp> should i use ntfs for compatibility with windows, or is ext2/3/4 sooo much better?
[08:18] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: try the minimal cd then
[08:18] <deper29> I want to get linux working on your computre
[08:18] <jnhghy> J0hnnyDepp: I use ntfs and works as expected...
[08:18] <JOhnnyDepp> okk
[08:19] <TheyTookErJobs> I'll wait until I can get 13.10 on a usb stick but it's a 20 minute download sooo break time ;)
[08:19] <mee_> helff
[08:19] <TheyTookErJobs> ugh my cpu fan needs replaced and is cherping too. I'm about to shoot it
[08:19] <mee_> ;/whois mee_
[08:20] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I don't know how much longer I can stay awake :/
[08:21] <deper29> I suppose if I get up and go download battlefield 4, I can stay awake as long as I want :D
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> No worries deper, I'll be back on tomorrow trying to figure it out again I'm sure :)
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> Atleast I made a big breakthough on my laptop today
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> installed kubuntu and the power options work! dim screen and battery reporting
[08:21] <deper29> nice :D
[08:21] <TheyTookErJobs> which I have been battling with ubuntu. Ubuntu was destroying my battery
[08:21] <deper29> I have dual battery
[08:22] <TheyTookErJobs> How the heck does that work?
[08:22] <deper29> but kde doesn't play properly with that sometimes :(
[08:22] <deper29> I have a second slice battery
[08:22] <deper29> attaches under the laptop
[08:22] <TheyTookErJobs> wow that's gotta make it heavy
[08:22] <siwica> I have just installed Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo G700 machine with nvidia GPU. However I just get the text mode and can't start unity. When I run unity I get "WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0". Running "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p" gives "Error: unable to open display".
[08:22] <deper29> yeah, but it's a thinkpad, so it's already heavy kind of :P
[08:22] <siwica> Any hints on how to get a GUI?
[08:22] <deper29> and it's worth not having to plug the thing in ever
[08:23] <JOhnnyDepp> lol i have 2 car batteries duct taped to my netbook very portable
[08:23] <TheyTookErJobs> heh my laptop has 4 processors each with hypervisors so 8 cores plus sli so it drains battery like nothing
[08:23] <TheyTookErJobs> :P J0hnny
[08:23] <deper29> siwica: do you run 'sudo service lightdm start'?
[08:24] <siwica> deper29: what does it do?
[08:24] <deper29> siwica: it's how you start your desktop manager
[08:24] <TheyTookErJobs> heh with my PC I ordered 16gigs of ram from amazon and they sent me an entire box of 16gb sticks. I returned it but when I opened it I was like 'omg'
[08:24] <TheyTookErJobs> It was over 300gb of memory
[08:24] <pers3us> siwica: Is it a fresh install, or were you trying to play with Graphics Drivers
[08:24] <deper29> and that ^
[08:26] <siwica> pers3us: fresh install, although I did install nvidia-current and one other driver, none of them helped though
[08:26] <deper29> siwica: did you disable nouveau when you did that?
[08:26] <pers3us> siwica: So the desktop never came up?
[08:27] <siwica> pers3us: right! pressing STRG+ALT+F7 just gives a black screen with a black cursor
[08:27] <pers3us> deper29: When you install nvidia driver it automatically disables nouveau.
[08:28] <deper29> pers3us: does it? I'm out of the loop then. I thought you had to disable nouveau
[08:28] <pers3us> siwica: So you installed it using command line. hmm... This sounds like a problem with xorg.
[08:28] <pers3us> do one thing, kill Xorg. and use startx from tty1 and see what the error is
[08:28] <deper29> could you pastebin your xorg log?
[08:28] <siwica> pers3us: I installed it having a gui. (could only run it with nomodeset active)
[08:29] <TheyTookErJobs> What kind of video card siwica?
[08:29] <pers3us> nvidia
[08:29] <TheyTookErJobs> right, but which one? :)
[08:30] <TheyTookErJobs> the nomodeset will get you back to graphical. When I was running nvidia if I tried to install the newest drivers I got a blank black screen
[08:30] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Its nothing fancy, an entry level gpu
[08:30] <siwica> I am running it using nomodeset right now
[08:30] <siwica> still no gui
[08:30] <deper29> siwica: can you pastebin your xorg log?
[08:31] <siwica> deper29: hm, i am quite new to linux, have to figure out, how to put it on a usb stick using the command line
[08:31] <deper29> siwica: ctrl + alt + f1 into tty1
[08:32] <deper29> 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[08:32] <TheyTookErJobs> siwica, also when you choose the other kernel does it do the same thing?
[08:32] <siwica> its not hooked up to the internet unfortunately. I am at uni right now and cant log in into vpn using the command line
[08:33] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: siwica: I guess your problem can be resolved if you try other drivers for nvidia
[08:33] <siwica> what does choosing the other kernel mean?
[08:33] <deper29> 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:33] <pers3us> your graphics card is GT720M
[08:33] <siwica> yes, graphic card is correct!
[08:33] <pers3us> siwica: IIRC, the compatible version of propriety driver is 314
[08:35] <pers3us> siwica: So a quick google search shows its version 319. I don't know if it is there in repository, check it out and install that. It should fix the ui problem
[08:35] <siwica> pers3us: i actually thought i had done this. any way to find out which driver is currently active?
[08:37] <pers3us> siwica: having wrong driver can cause the problem you are facing. And I am not sure how you can see currently installed nvidia driver, you can probably do dpkg --get-selections |grep nvidia and have a look there, but I am not sure
[08:38] <JOhnnyDepp> heeelp....   my /etc/hostname file is completely messed up, how should it look like normally?  starting first line with 127.0.0.1 localhost ???
[08:38] <TheyTookErJobs> deper, the 13.10 installer disk is being created right meow
[08:38] <TheyTookErJobs> If your still awake :)
[08:39] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> nah your hostname file should just be your machine name
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> atleast that's it on mine
[08:39] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: /etc/hostname should have machine name
[08:39] <TheyTookErJobs> ubuntu hostname is not the same as windows hosts :)
[08:39] <JOhnnyDepp> ah ok nothing else?
[08:40] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: I am for now :P
[08:40] <siwica> pers3us: ok, this shows nvidia-304 and nvidia-settings-304
[08:40] <pers3us> JOhnnyDepp: no
[08:40] <JOhnnyDepp> but i get error cannot resolve hostname when using sudo
[08:40] <siwica> pers3us: this is probably too old?
[08:40] <pers3us> siwica: Okay, so i guess this could be a problem. Again, I am not sure, just speculating.
[08:40]  * deper29 compiles a 3.12 kernel
[08:40] <JOhnnyDepp> can I delete hostname and restart to get it normal again?
[08:41] <siwica> pers3us: ok, thanks! I will try this when I am home.
[08:41] <pers3us> siwica: Uninstall all nvidia drivers and install the latest one, i guess, the latest one is 319 if not 319, then 325 or 310
[08:41] <siwica> pers3us: what would be the way to uninstall them?
[08:42] <pers3us> siwica: I had 310 it worked fine. To uninstall sudo apt-get remove <package>  doesn't that work?
[08:43] <st0rm> JOhnnyDepp: use the hostname command
[08:43] <pers3us> siwica: when you will run an install it will call update-alternative which should fix all other problems. (Again I am not sure :) )
[08:43] <parapan> hi fellows > how do I "identity" a specific ppa to add to the source code ???
[08:43] <TheyTookErJobs> ugh someday I'll grow up to compile my own kernel
[08:43] <siwica> pers3us: ok, thanks! I have a lecture right now, but ill try this when being home
[08:44] <pers3us> siwica: sure np! :)
[08:44] <TheyTookErJobs> pers3us, do you use ati?
[08:44] <siwica> pers3us: I hope the new driver will do the job. Have a good day!
[08:44] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: nah, two of my devices have intel, and one of them has nvidia
[08:45] <Oxymoron> Hi, I need to ask, does someone looking into system problem regarding wpa_supplicant, debService/config.dat and lightdm? Pretty important bugs which need to be fixed. I have send a lot of error reports, but nothing happens. My desktop freeze once in a while, wifi hangs and problem sometimes to install new packages with apt and debian handler.
[08:45] <Oxymoron> Problem occured after upgrading to 13.10 ....
[08:45] <TheyTookErJobs> hrm. When I was running ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop the nvidia 319 was crashing it. I had to downgrade it to get it to work. So many varients in linux hah
[08:46] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Ya, same happened to me while running Arch. 319 has 3 or 4 versions though.
[08:46] <deper29> nvidia 331 just came out
[08:46] <deper29> supports 3.12 kernel
[08:46] <deper29> 331.20
[08:47] <TheyTookErJobs> How do you opt out of kernel updates if they are going to break things until drivers catch up?
[08:47] <wilee-nilee> Oxymoron, File bugs so you get an answer whether valid, your experiences maybe isolated to a borked upgrade.
[08:47] <pers3us> deper29: lol, they keep on updating these releases, not all of them are stable. I would rather stick with nouveau.
[08:47] <ASHER1> why i cant see log vnc?
[08:47] <ASHER1> i doing everything and i not see nothing
[08:47] <pers3us> Oxymoron: IIRC, (not from ubuntu dev team) there was a but related to wpa_supplicant, dunno what happened to it. Moreover, I don't think any devs are around atm.
[08:48] <deper29> pers3us: I'd totally do nouveau if they gave near the performance of nvidia proprietary
[08:48] <parapan> hi fellows > does someone upgraded to evolution 3.10.1 in ubuntu 12.04 LTS ????
[08:49] <pers3us> deper29: Well, if you play games, nouveau isn't your answer. You will have to tweak around with nvidia propriety. But for everything else, I never had problems with nouveau
[08:49] <pers3us> parapan: i use mutt. Sorry! :)
[08:49] <deper29> pers3us: I play games :P Even for extra effects nouveau didn't cut it
[08:49] <deper29> which is too bad
[08:49] <DarthDepa> Hi guys :) I've a problem with GRUB update on Ubuntu 13.10... On My HDD there are: Ubuntu 13.10, Debian 6.0.8, BackTrack 5R2 and Winzozz... When, on Ubuntu, a grub-update is needed, at restart I can't see "Ubuntu" on the menu... I have to re-install grub, from another OS (using chroot on Ubuntu partition)
[08:49] <pers3us> deper29: then you don't have a choice! :D
[08:50] <parapan> pers3us: I need evolution for it's EWS integration with Microsoft exchange ....
[08:50] <jimmy__> Hello, my ubuntu 12.04 can't connect to the vpn (pptpd) I just set up on our server. The windows pc of my collegue can. What could cause this.
[08:50] <jimmy__> ?
[08:50] <bexline> it is possible to play terraria on linux
[08:50] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, What is the os at the top of the grub menu?
[08:50] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: It may be Ubuntu... If Ubuntu isn't on GRUB menu, is BackTrack
[08:51] <deper29> pers3us: I know :(
[08:51] <pers3us> parapan: Thunderbird had that right? Exchange integration
[08:51] <DarthDepa> pers3us: with a plugin
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, Then backtrack has the grub in the mbr, you can change whatever one you want to control grub from its desktop.
[08:51] <TheyTookErJobs> Okay deper, let's see if 13.10 makes any difference
[08:51] <pers3us> deper29: Are you on this IRC often? This gets spammed of questions.
[08:52] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: but I run "grub2-install" on Ubuntu and get no errors
[08:52] <pers3us> parapan: as DarthDepa  said, using a plugin you can have the same functionality on Thunderbird. About your question, I have no idea.
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, it would be sudo grub-install /dev/sdX ; sudo update-grub the X is the HD
[08:53] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Did you do update-grub?
[08:53] <TheyTookErJobs> heh deper, the 13.10 kubuntu live-cd doesn't even boot....
[08:53] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: yes :)
[08:53] <TheyTookErJobs> freezes at the logo screen
[08:53] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Okay, that is weird.
[08:53] <parapan> pers3us: don't know about thunderbird ....I am addicited to evolution :D
[08:54] <pers3us> DarthDepa: what was the output of update-grub?
[08:54] <DarthDepa> pers3us: lol :) infact...
[08:55] <deper29> pers3us: lately I've been on here often. Why?
[08:55] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: does it make it to grub?!
[08:55] <pers3us> deper29: Don't you find it overwhelming
[08:55] <TheyTookErJobs> I am loading it with nomodeset
[08:55] <TheyTookErJobs> looks like it's loading atleast...
[08:56] <pers3us> deper29: This is my first few hours on this IRC. :D i am mostly on #go-nuts
[08:56] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: for example: yesterday I had some ubuntu updates... I run aptitude and installed them (one, is grub)... at reboot, I couldn't see Ubuntu... So, I run BackTrack to re-install Grub on Ubuntu and all works fine
[08:56] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: keep us posted :D
[08:56] <DarthDepa> pers3us: wait... I run it again, now...
[08:56] <parapan> what is the meaning of this waoring ? Installing this PPA on 13.04 (Raring) will switch your system to use logind instead of consolekit. ... ????
[08:56] <deper29> pers3us: I find this channel a bit overwhelming sometimes. I'm usually in #gentoo
[08:57] <pers3us> deper29: Wow, getoo user! :)
[08:57] <deper29> :)
[08:57] <deper29> I don't get the "wow" part though :P
[08:57] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: I have "update-grub" and "update-grub2"... Which is the correct one??
[08:57] <pers3us> deper29: I always wanted to try gentoo, but the learning curve and time held me back.
[08:58] <pers3us> update-grub
[08:58] <JOhnnyDepp> damnit, why does my stupid harddsik not mount, i enter this kube in fstab:    /dev/sdd1	/BigHDD	ntfs	defaults	0	0
[08:58] <deper29> pers3us: it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
[08:58] <JOhnnyDepp> i mean line not kube wtf
[08:59] <s_faraday> hi all
[08:59] <pers3us> deper29: Okay then, some day I will definately try. :)
[08:59] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375218/
[08:59] <s_faraday> why this command cd simspark/trunk/spark
[08:59] <JOhnnyDepp> are these tabs or spaces in fstab?
[08:59] <s_faraday> tells me No such file or directory
[08:59] <s_faraday> this directory already exist
[08:59] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Well, i can't read the language but seeing the general response, it should work.
[09:00] <pers3us> try rebooting
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, YOu ned to read the grub commands for each linux install debian I believe is grub2 ubuntu is not but wint error. Honestly I think your a bit lost with grub controls.
[09:00] <hahmed> JOhnnyDepp: doesn't matter both tabs/spaces are accepted
[09:00] <JOhnnyDepp> should I write NTFS in caps?
[09:00] <deper29> pers3us: just took a bit of reading. You seem like you know your stuff so you'd probably be fine. Requires regular maintenance though
[09:00] <JOhnnyDepp> something must be wrong
[09:00] <deper29> but that's why I like it
[09:00] <hahmed> JOhnnyDepp: ntfs is in lowercase
[09:00] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: anything?
[09:00] <TheyTookErJobs> nope
[09:01] <pers3us> deper29: Oh, what do you mean requires regular maintainence? I thought Gentoo was more like install and then forget, it will work perfect for rest of your life.
[09:01] <TheyTookErJobs> atleast with 12.04 I could get to the install. This one just freezes at the logo screen
[09:01] <Rooey> Synaptic Package Manager shows scangearmp-mp640series 1.40-1 as "installed". Have tried to launch via Terminal. any ideas?
[09:01] <TheyTookErJobs> mouse still moves though
[09:01] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: I really don't know... :(
[09:01] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: umm, try booting in verbose.
[09:01] <Guest59638> ;)
[09:02] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Did you restart? Your grub install looks fine to me.
[09:02] <deper29> pers3us: haha, I wish :P
[09:02] <TheyTookErJobs> what do these options mean acpi=off, noapic, nolapic, edd=on, nodmraid, nomodeset
[09:02] <TheyTookErJobs> should I just check them all and go into it? hah
[09:03] <pers3us> deper29: what is TheyTookErJobs trying to do?
[09:03] <TheyTookErJobs> Get Kubuntu to install on my PC
[09:03] <pers3us> Ah
[09:03] <DarthDepa> pers3us: I can't restart now... But I will check... The problem is that I runned this procedure a lot of time and always, when automated grub-update start, I lose Ubuntu... :(
[09:04] <pers3us> So what happens.
[09:04] <TheyTookErJobs> I have been trying every night for over a month to get a solid distribution to work.
[09:04] <pers3us> DarthDepa: you ran with grub-install and then update-grub before?
[09:04] <TheyTookErJobs> When I boot up with 13.10 now it loads the Kbuntu screen and the dots cycle on the bottom but nothing else
[09:04] <DarthDepa> pers3us: yes... always
[09:06] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Okay, when you are ready to reboot, do it again and paste both the outputs and /boot/grub/grub.cfg file.
[09:06] <acmiyaguchi> hey, I was wondering if I could install a package from a 13.10 repo selectively on my 12.04 lts system?
[09:06] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: That is why I said boot in verbose mode, and see what the error is
[09:06] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs:  Or where it is stuck
[09:06] <TheyTookErJobs> I mashed a bunch of buttons and got into an install...
[09:07] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Oh, the Live CD is not booting?
[09:07] <TheyTookErJobs> right
[09:07] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: you didn't do the minimal, you went full ubuntu?
[09:07] <deper29> you'll likely get the same error
[09:08] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: Okay, did you use unetbootin to build the live cd?
[09:08] <pers3us> or dd?
[09:08] <st0rm> acmiyaguchi: the dependencies will probably be wrong
[09:08] <TheyTookErJobs> deper, I didn't see any options for a minimal with ku
[09:09] <poorlinuxnoog> is it allowed to mount harddisk like this (in home folder):      /dev/sdd1	~/BigHDD	ntfs	defaults	0	0
[09:09] <TheyTookErJobs> I used whatever poorlinuxnoog: startup boot disk is in ubuntu
[09:09] <pers3us> TheyTookErJobs: deper29 There isn't one in Ubuntu. In arch they have a package called kde-base
[09:09] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: either way, is the ubuntu one working?
[09:09] <poorlinuxnoog> talking to me TheyTookErJobs ??
[09:09] <deper29> pers3us: ubuntu has a minimal
[09:09] <pers3us> deper29: Really?
[09:09] <deper29> !minimal
[09:10] <futurestack> is there an IRC for the ubuntu forums specifically?
[09:10] <deper29> pers3us: if you use arch, gentoo is the same difficulty
[09:10] <pers3us> deper29: Oh, no. I am not talking about that. KDE minimal package installation. not the minimal disk
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> futurestack, #ubuntuforums
[09:10] <futurestack> danke
[09:10] <wilee-nilee> shane
[09:10] <deper29> pers3us: ahh, I see. I was talking minimal disk. He's having trouble installing
[09:10] <pers3us> deper29: Really. :O Why didn't I try it before then.
[09:11] <poorlinuxnoog> can i automount hdd in fstab too ~/hdd  ?
[09:11] <pers3us> deper29: Actually minimal disk will cause more problems for him.
[09:11] <pers3us> deper29:  A, he will have to download everything, B, he will have same problems as the full install, as they are pretty much the same.
[09:12] <pers3us> poorlinuxnoog: yes you can
[09:12] <s_faraday> hi
[09:12] <s_faraday> why I see this message? CMake Error: The source directory "/home/faraday/simpark/trunk" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.
[09:12] <s_faraday> Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
[09:12] <allu2> Hey, could someone point me on how to find if a certain bug is already reported?
[09:13] <pers3us> s_faraday: Shouldn't you be asking this to the developer.
[09:13] <deper29> pers3us: he won't have the same problems if we can at least get things installed.
[09:13] <pers3us> deper29: hmm...
[09:13] <pers3us> deper29: Where is he stuck?
[09:13] <allu2> when I log in Ubuntu 13.10 shows my default layout icon at the layout switcher (FI) but in reality the layout is still US till i go to the menu and select FI again
[09:13] <deper29> pers3us: it hangs when he has to choose his timezone
[09:14] <s_faraday> pers3us: what?
[09:14] <deper29> or, uh, TheyTookErJobs could be a female as well. Maybe I'm wrong when I say "he"
[09:14] <poorlinuxnoog> ok since im being ignored, i just tried it,   automounting to ~/HDD gives error during startup
[09:14] <TheyTookErJobs> I is a hes...
[09:14] <deper29> there we go
[09:14] <pers3us> s_faraday: you are trying to compile a package? That package has issues.
[09:14] <tomboy64> is it normal for ubuntu (precise) to install and start apache per default?
[09:14] <savetheinternet> why doesn't RMS lose weight?
[09:14] <allu2> poorlinuxnoog: which error? logs in pastebin would be nice
[09:14] <pers3us> poorlinuxnoog: I replied to you,but you already had dcd.
[09:14] <savetheinternet> he is a fat disgusting fuck
[09:14] <savetheinternet> a communist too
[09:14] <FloodBot1> savetheinternet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:14] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | poorlinuxnoog
[09:15] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: pers3us: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375299/
[09:15] <s_faraday> pers3us: yes, I got it by svn
[09:16] <TheyTookErJobs> it's gotta be something witht he slideshow
[09:16] <bingo> Hello. When I restart with the newest graphics driver, the OS wont start. I get a black screen. What can i type to save myself to boot in ?
[09:16] <bingo> ill have to write it down on paper
[09:17] <pers3us> s_faraday: I guess, you should ask the developer who created this package. I don't think we support compiling packages here. (But I am new, post your question again, may be someone will answer)
[09:17] <deper29> bingo: let me guess: nvidia?
[09:17] <wilee-nilee> DarthDepa, I know nothing about uefi.
[09:17] <ball> hello
[09:17] <bingo> yes
[09:17] <tomboy64> s_faraday: does that svn have a web-frontend? can you give me the url?
[09:17] <DarthDepa> wilee-nilee: me too ahahahahah
[09:18] <pers3us> DarthDepa: What all os's you had?
[09:18] <allu2> bingo: on grub2 select the ubuntu you normally use, press e, search line with ro quiet and add behind it nomodeset noacpi and press ctrl+x
[09:18] <s_faraday> tomboy64: svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/simspark/svn/ simpark
[09:18] <DarthDepa> pers3us: what? :) Sorry... I didn't understand...
[09:18] <TheyTookErJobs> Now I am getting error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kubuntu" is owned by uid 999 instead of uid 0
[09:18] <deper29> bingo: when you boot, edit the grub line and add nomodeset
[09:18] <pers3us> i can see a backtrack, debian, ubuntu and windows7
[09:19] <DarthDepa> pers3us: yes... are all...
[09:19] <bingo> ty
[09:19] <pers3us> DarthDepa: They are all there in the menuentry, don't you see them in grub menu?
[09:19] <Matriks404> why Ubuntu still have outdated wine 1.4.1 ? lol
[09:19] <DarthDepa> pers3us: no, I see them in the grub's menu
[09:20] <DarthDepa> always...
[09:20] <pers3us> DarthDepa: So what is the problem again? What is not getting added?
[09:20] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu :) The one that may have MBR :)
[09:20] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You aren't able to boot into one? or Ubuntu is not coming in the grub  menu?
[09:20] <deper29> s_faraday: where did you get the package?
[09:21] <DarthDepa> Ubuntu is not present on grub's menu
[09:21] <pers3us> DarthDepa: its there right, menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.6 (su /dev/sda8)"
[09:21] <DarthDepa> pers3us: no... /dev/sda8 is BackTrack
[09:22] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu 13.10 is on /dev/sda6
[09:22] <s_faraday> deper29: svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/simspark/svn/ simpark
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: if you run:   sudo update-grub   do you see the entries added?
[09:22] <s_faraday> at Home/simspark
[09:22] <pers3us> DarthDepa: This is weird.
[09:22] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: yes :) But not Ubuntu 13.10
[09:22] <allu2> Matriks404: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=saucy
[09:22] <deper29> s_faraday: let me try this. You're just trying to compile, yes?
[09:23] <tomboy64> s_faraday: go into the subdirectories. you need to compile the components individually, it seems. start with spark. but unless you really are on an exotic configuration, i'd recommend using the provided packages.
[09:24] <s_faraday> deper29: yes
[09:24] <TheyTookErJobs> Going to try one more thing before going to bed. Burning it to a DVD
[09:24] <deper29> theas opposed to usb?
[09:24] <poorlinuxnoog> goshdarnit, now I mounted my  harddisk and it says permission denied when i want to copy to it
[09:24] <s_faraday> tomboy64: there is no package for ubuntu 13.04
[09:25] <s_faraday> they are for 12
[09:25] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I saw your update-grub again, I don't see /dev/sda6 on os-prober response.
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> yeah
[09:25] <DarthDepa> pers3us: infact :(
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> I need more ram on my laptop... 8gb is just not enough hah
[09:25] <TheyTookErJobs> give me MAX or give me death
[09:26] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Google around, for reasons why an OS is being picked up by os-prober
[09:26] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I will too.
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> TheyTookErJobs: may as well, average RAM is cheap
[09:26] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: yeah, I got 16 geebees on my laptop. 10GB tmpfs...
[09:26] <deper29> lol
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: what file system is the partition?
[09:26] <TheyTookErJobs> I will Action, right after I build myself a treadmill desk
[09:26] <DarthDepa> pers3us: thanks .)
[09:26] <poorlinuxnoog> its ntfs ActionParsnip
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: is it USB based?
[09:27] <anurag> HIafcose
[09:27] <poorlinuxnoog> no its SATA
[09:27] <anurag> hi
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: is teh NTFS healthy? When did you last chkdsk it?
[09:27] <poorlinuxnoog> ActionParsnip: never cause i just bought it :D
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> poorlinuxnoog: I'd run a quick check in Windows, may help
[09:28] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Umm, after Installing ubuntu did you try to install grub from any other OSes
[09:28] <poorlinuxnoog> nah i'd rather risk it, not much time
[09:28] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You can do the same from Debian. Does that work?
[09:28] <ZeThomas> hello, I'm having trouble getting this whole optimus-thing going on my laptop (intel 4000 and geforce 740m); I installed bumblebee, and the nvidia drivers, but i get: primus: fatal: broken GLX on main X display
[09:29] <poorlinuxnoog> ActionParsnip: dont i have to do some linux permission stup in some remote hidden txt files?
[09:29] <deper29> ugh, kde takes so long to build and update. I'm going to bed to let it do its thing.
[09:29] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: best of luck on the install. I'll be back in twelve hours
[09:29] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ubuntu is the last one that I installed... :( If I run "grub-install" from Debian, It works but I can't see Windows and Ubuntu 13.10
[09:30] <deper29> good night, all
[09:30] <TheyTookErJobs> thanks for your help deper. I haven't made up my mind if I am going to work or not but I will be on after work at the worse
[09:30] <deper29> TheyTookErJobs: no problem! hopefully you can get it installed. if not, a fresh mind tomorrow might be best :)
[09:30] <pers3us> DarthDepa: This gets weirder and weirder, It actually doesn't depend on the order of your installation. If you run grub-install at any point, it will make menu entry for all the OSes
[09:31] <deper29> in the meantime, I'll hope I don't break my system upgrading
[09:31] <deper29> *updating
[09:32] <DarthDepa> pers3us: infact... Maybe something in Ubuntu 13.10 is wrong?
[09:32] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Doesn't look like.
[09:33] <pers3us> Can you give this thing a try. Bactrack installs grub for all oses except fro ubuntu right?
[09:33] <pers3us> So install grub on /dev/sda6 from ubuntu
[09:33] <pers3us> not /dev/sda
[09:33] <pers3us> then run update-grub in backtack, and see if this works.
[09:34] <pers3us> I faced a similar problem, long time back.
[09:34] <s_faraday> deper29: tomboy64 I fix it and could cmake
[09:34] <pers3us> DarthDepa: You got that?
[09:34] <s_faraday> but have this error
[09:34] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: if there's a simpark package for 12.04, get the source for the package and adapt it to compile on 13.10
[09:34] <s_faraday> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:
[09:35] <DarthDepa> pers3us: install grub on /dev/sda6?
[09:35] <pers3us> ya
[09:35] <cfhowlett> !grub
[09:35] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I have that how can I adapt that?
[09:36] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: well, look up how to compile packages from source
[09:36] <DarthDepa> pers3us: but why run update-grub from BackTrack?
[09:36] <aeon-ltd>  /j bitcoin
[09:36] <DarthDepa> pers3us: I would use Ubuntu 13.10 GRUB
[09:36] <s_faraday> gordonjcp: I tryed that
[09:36] <aeon-ltd> sorry, added a space by mistake
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: tried:  sudo os-probe; sudo update-grub
[09:36] <s_faraday> it has so many errors and dependensy
[09:36] <s_faraday> :/
[09:36] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Whichever grub you are running at the moment, you should go to that distro and do an update
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: might be os-prober   (use TAB to autocomplete)
[09:36] <pers3us> after installing the grub on /dev/sad6
[09:37] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: "os-prober" find Windows, Backtrack, Debian but not Ubuntu 13.10 :(
[09:37] <pers3us> ActionParsnip: os-prober is actually part of grub-install isn't it
[09:37] <gordonjcp> s_faraday: yes, well, you need to install all the dependencies too
[09:38] <DarthDepa> pers3us: so I run "grub-install /dev/sda6" and "update-grub" on the same OS, in this case (Ubuntu 13.10)
[09:38] <pers3us> DarthDepa: Try what I said, It might work.
[09:38] <pers3us> DarthDepa: yes
[09:38] <pers3us> Then go to the OS which has grub right now, and run update-grub
[09:38] <DarthDepa> pers3us: Ok... :)
[09:40] <DarthDepa> pers3us: it tolds me that is not possible to proced because there are "blocklist"
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> pers3us: not 100% sure
[09:40] <pers3us> DarthDepa: umm, something is wrong somewhere! :(
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: could try grub-install from Ubuntu, use a chroot from Backtrack
[09:41] <pers3us> DarthDepa: I give up, sorry. I have to go now! ciao.
[09:41] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: and when I will on BackTrack?
[09:41] <DarthDepa> pers3us: thanks pers3us :) thanks a lot
[09:41] <DarthDepa> pers3us: have a nice day
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: thats not a question
[09:42] <poorlinuxnoob> if anyone knows rsync,   when i use the -h parameter it should give some text status output, but it doesn't why not??
[09:42] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: I will install grub from ubuntu and chroot on BackTrack... and after that? What I have to do when I will be inside BackTrack?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: Backtrack boots ok, right?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> DarthDepa: boot to backtrack and chroot to the unbootable Ubuntu install, then run update-grub from there
[09:43] <DarthDepa> ActionParsnip: yes... I always do that... Fix my problem...
[09:44] <Hempathy> Hi all Virtual Box question
[09:45] <Hempathy> I've an official version of Win7 installed, plus same in VB, but it won't let me register VBversion, any ideas?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> Hempathy, sounds like a VB issue.  best ask them
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: what does "register VBversion" mean?
[09:47] <Hempathy> It claims it's not an official version on Windows when loaded in virtual box
[09:47] <t0by> Hello people. I've just installed Xubuntu 13.10, but hibernate is seemingly disabled from the guy out of the box (pm-hibernate works just fine). How do I reenable it? The various instructions I found around are for 12.04 and 13.04 and he wiki explicitly tells it won't work.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: have you registered windows and activated it online?
[09:47] <Hempathy> cfhowlett, cheers will do
[09:47] <parad0xx_> deper29: how do I pastebin?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> t0by: does the system have a make and model?
[09:48] <parad0xx_> sorry, got busy unexpectedly
[09:48] <parad0xx_> back now
[09:48] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, yeah on a dual boot, same version loaded on virtual box
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: but did you activate the virtualbox OS online?
[09:48] <Hempathy> not keen on using it at home, but useful to log onto work network
[09:49] <parad0xx_> fdisk -l shows nothing
[09:49] <parad0xx_> just returns a new prompt
[09:49] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, tried to but it asks if I've changed  / upgraded hardware... and I'm not keen on invalidating my hard install
[09:50] <DarthDepa> Thanks a lot to all of you :)
[09:50] <DarthDepa> I have to go :)
[09:50] <DarthDepa> Have a nice day :)
[09:50] <t0by> ActionParsnip: Thinkpad T61
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: maybe you cannot use the same license in a virtual system. I'd query it in ##windows
[09:50] <t0by> ActionParsnip: supported since forever, I think, and in fact pm-hibernate works just fine
[09:50] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, cheers will do
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: are you running windows as host and as guest?
[09:51] <makara> hi. I have an EC2 instance without DNS pointing to it. I want a memorable domain name. How can I set an alias for it?
[09:51] <fishcooker1> i have box behind the adsl modem how to remote it from internet?
[09:51] <fishcooker1> i have box behind the adsl modem how to remote it from internet?
[09:51] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, nah xfce host
[09:51] <t0by> fishcooker1: you need to set port forwarding on your modem. Refer to the modem's manual.
[09:51] <Hempathy> but I do boot into win7 when needed
[09:52] <makara> so instead of going "ssh name@some.horribly.long.domain.name.which.is.hard.to.remember.com" I would go "ssh name@shorty.com"
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: i'd ask in ##windows regarding licensing. This is nothing to do with Ubuntu
[09:53] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, see if they're as helpful as here :) Thanks again
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: could always call microsoft, you are paying for support from them
[09:54] <makara> and without using external resolution like bit.ly or whatever. I need to ssh into this thing. Change in iptables?
[09:54] <parad0xx_> I installed ubuntu 12.04 today alongside xp pro, but in ubuntu I can't see my 2nd hard drive, xp still can see it.  fdisk -l returns nothing, how do I fix this?
[09:55] <parad0xx_> deper29 started to help me a few hours ago but I had to go quickly, sorry deper29
[09:55] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, true man, would you know if I'm allowed multiple installs on the same machine?
[09:56] <ljunggren> Hempathy, multiple installs at the same time?
[09:56] <t0by> Ah, seems like Hibernate in GUI is unsupported period due to change to logind.
[09:56] <Hempathy> ljunggren, yeah one hard install, other virtual Box... and I might have it on another personal laptop ;)
[09:56] <t0by> Stupid question: will hibernate in GUI EVER be fixed (I mean, is anybody working on it right now) or I should just wipe everything and install LTS?
[09:57] <Hempathy> ironic, you guys here are quicker answering mywin7 questions than the windows room :)
[09:57] <ljunggren> Hempathy, you want XP hard install .. then also in virtual box... in ubuntu?
[09:58] <excognac> t0by: i wish i could install lts xd
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Hempathy: no idea matey. Ive completely missed Vista and Win7 so far, doing well
[09:58] <cfhowlett> t0by, if you NEED the latest/greatest shiny stuff and dont' mind a 9 month lifecycle then install the interim releases.  Otherwise LTS is the way to go.  IMO.
[09:58] <Hempathy> ljunggren, yeah win7 already both installed
[09:58] <Hempathy> ActionParsnip, lucky you :)
[09:59] <Hempathy> I'll tackle it tomorrow, thanks for your time guys
[09:59] <zetheroo> is the trim feature for SSD's enabled by default in Ubuntu 12.04?
[10:00] <StrangeNoises> no. add 'discard' to mount options in fstab after installation
[10:00] <minimec> zetheroo: Not at my knowledge. Add discard in /etc/fstab
[10:01] <zetheroo> ok
[10:01] <t0by> cfhowlett: thanks. No, I don't need the shiny stuff, I'm an ex-debian user. It's just that 13.10 is the thing pointed by the download link.
[10:01] <t0by> Oh, well, LTS fun tonight.
[10:01] <zetheroo> minimec: just checked my fstab file and discard was already there ...
[10:02] <minimec> zetheroo: Ok.
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> interesting
[10:02] <StrangeNoises> it didn't put it in by itself on my recent 13.10 install onto an ssd
[10:02] <zetheroo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375486/
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> yeah that's right; looks just like mine, except i had to put it in myself
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> wonder what the difference was so it knew
[10:03] <StrangeNoises> probably the model: a kingston v300 in my case
[10:03] <zetheroo> mine is corsair ... forget the model
[10:04] <cfhowlett> t0by, understood.  your choice but my stress level dropped to near zero once I adopted an LTS only policy.  Of course, I'm now getting a teeny bit antsy waiting for next 14.04
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> heh
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> some of us enjoy upgrading so much we do it months before the next release ;-)
[10:04] <StrangeNoises> desperate for some excitement in our lives i guess :-}
[10:04] <bingo> how can i change which OS default boots in LTS?
[10:05] <bingo> is there a GUI?
[10:05] <StrangeNoises> ubuntu versions get boring once they're actually out
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> bingo: do you dual boot Windows and Ubuntu and want Windows as default?
[10:05] <bingo> yes
[10:05] <bingo> yes please
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> bingo: let me get you the command
[10:05] <bingo> ty
[10:05] <bingo> cant seem to find the GUI in software center
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why would you need a GUI?
[10:06] <bingo> cause i dont feel comfortable in terminal
[10:06] <bingo> and they used to offer one i guess, cant find it
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why not? I just gave you the EXACT command, so it's literally copying and pasting a command
[10:07] <bingo> ill do it
[10:07] <bingo> ty
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> bingo: why is that not 'comfortable'?
[10:07] <bingo> it is now :)
[10:07] <vsMS> I would like to install my 12.04 server based on LVM. I have two block devices /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. /dev/sda will only be used for /boot while /dev/sdb must be a complete pv without a partition. How is this possible?
[10:07] <zetheroo> I am waiting for the next LTS ;)
[10:07] <bingo> would you like to see what it spits out?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> bingo: i can imagine what it spits out
[10:07] <StrangeNoises> if you're going to use a linux or unix and you don't feel 'comfortable' at the commandline, you're going to miss out on so much
[10:08] <bingo> ActionParsnip, ty looks good
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> the number of the file dictates it's position in Grub, the Linux ones are number 10 so by putting it at 09, it will appear above the Linux entries
[10:08] <StrangeNoises> yes there's a bit of a steep learning curve, and yes, with modern linux/osx etc you can usually get by in other ways, but it's still worth the effort
[10:08] <bingo> i lso fixed my problem not being able to boot after using nvidia driver 319!
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> bingo: its extremely simple
[10:08] <bingo> ActionParsnip, yes, ty it worked. you are right it was simple
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> bingo: update-grub processes those files in order and so if you change the order, they appear at different points in the final grub file
[10:09] <quantumtonto> anyone have a clue as to why awesome wm is not available as a login option .. ubu 13.04 ?
[10:09] <bingo> StrangeNoises, i guess, i mean i use linux for a game thts all. the gamee gets better fps on linux
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: sounds like abug, you could make the session file yourself
[10:10] <parad0xx_> shouldn't 2nd hd be sdb1? or something?  very new to this
[10:10] <quantumtonto> ActionPartnership ty .. any tuts may help me do that ?
[10:10] <quantumtonto> actionparsnip .. srry ty =D
[10:10] <yeyeman> any modular synth software for ubuntu? Or anything used for making generating synthezied sounds?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, dozenz
[10:11] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, several package sfor that.  more info in #ubuntustudio
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=2827    not dissimilar to this, just change the commands etc
[10:11] <quantumtonto> ActionParsnip ty will give it a go =D
[10:16] <undaunted> what
[10:16] <StrangeNoises> that
[10:18] <Solarnight> Hello
[10:18] <Solarnight> I'm new here
[10:19] <Solarnight> Well its been years since I've used this thing. Anyone willing to speed me up to the commands and rooms here?
[10:20] <ObrienDave> anything in particular?
[10:20] <Solarnight> just the room names and commands for now
[10:20] <Solarnight> i've been looking for this thing for 5 years now. I cam across it on youtube
[10:21] <DJones> !alis | Solarnight
[10:21] <minimec> Solarnight: Don't use '/part' and '/quit', unless ... ;)
[10:21] <Solarnight> Thank you
[10:24] <tomboy64> is it normal for ubuntu (precise) to install and start apache per default?
[10:28] <quantumtonto> ActionParsnip /usr/share/xsessions/awesome .. NoDisplay=true .. AHA !! =D
[10:29] <Solarnight> I feel like in all the wrong rooms lol.
[10:31] <Solarnight> I'll just say random stuff until someone decides to chat with me
[10:31] <DJones> Solarnight: What sort of channel were you looking for, this channel is just for Ubuntu support
[10:31] <Solarnight> nothing specific. I just wanna chat
[10:32] <ObrienDave> then try #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <keyfur> How do I install wacom tablet drivers on Ubuntu? I expected it to auto-recognize, but it hadn't.
[10:33] <quantumtonto> woo hoo im in awesome =D .. now i get to learn how to use it =D
[10:33] <DJones> Solarnight: Maybe try "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" Thats a general chat channel
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: d'oh
[10:33] <cfhowlett> keyfur, there's a driver for that on edubuntu so it should be in software center repo's
[10:34] <quantumtonto> lol =D
[10:34] <quantumtonto> ty actionparsnip fot the direction =D
[10:34] <quantumtonto> for*
[10:34] <Solarnight> dankie
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> quantumtonto: no worries dude
[10:36] <keyfur> cfhowlett:  Thank you I'll give that a try.
[10:37] <cfhowlett> keyfur, best of luck
[10:44] <SDr>  hi there, http://pastebin.com/2Guq0Afb   is my /etc/init.d/nginx  file; however, upon reboot , it fails to bring nginx up
[10:44] <SDr> update-rc.d nginx defaults   says System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/nginx already exist.
[10:46] <keyfur> cfhowlett No dice. The libs and drivers were already installed. Also I see a "wacom.ko" under /lib/modules/3.8.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/input/tablet/
[10:47] <keyfur> Is that a driver? I'm not familiar with *.ko files
[10:47] <Danato> can anybody tell me whats the difference between installing kde-full and installing kde-desktop?
[10:48] <xyzwhatever> hey how can I turn on network recognition or something,     that tells other computers in the LAN to find me by my hostname instead of the IP ???
[10:48] <parad0xx_> how can I get ubuntu to see my 2nd hd?  dual booting with xp pro, which can still see it, but ubuntu can't, any ideas?
[10:48] <parad0xx_> just installed 12.04 yesterday
[10:48] <keyfur> In a virtualbox, I can pass the USB port to a Windows7 guest with no issues. So the device itself and usb port are functioning
[10:49] <cfhowlett> keyfur, I've not yet used wacom.  see the ubuntustudio forums for wacom and the #ubuntustudio irc channel
[10:49] <quentin_1> test
[10:49] <cfhowlett> quentin_1, fail
[10:49] <keyfur> cfhowlett ok, thank you
[10:49] <olf-folks> quentin_1, works
[10:50] <parad0xx_> fdisk -l shows nothing, just returns a new prompt
[10:50] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, use ' sudo fdisk -l  "
[10:50] <quentin_1> thx, it's my fist attempt to use it
[10:51] <qolund> hello
[10:51] <qolund> I'm running a live USB and am unable to update my grub
[10:52] <qolund> I just resized and moved my ubuntu partition (my unique OS)
[10:52] <excognac> hi all if java: not found, how do install java in kubuntu13.10
[10:52] <qolund> Is there a way to perhaps remove grub (since i don't need it) or update it from my live boot ?
[10:52] <parad0xx_> OerHeks: ok, that returned a bunch of stuff
[10:53] <parad0xx_> but I don't think my 2nd hd is showing up
[10:53] <parad0xx_> my c: drive, and a usb stick
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !java|excognac,
[10:53] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the url here
[10:53] <iceroot_> excognac: sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre-7
[10:53] <excognac> iceroot_: ty
[10:55]  * qolund had xchat-gnome segfaulting :/
[10:58] <keyfur> Is there a way I can digitally inspect a USB device's model number, and then compare that to a currently installed driver? To see if the driver I have is appropriate?
[10:58] <olf-folks> dose ubuntu have a rolling development release?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> olf-folks, no.
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !release
[10:59] <olf-folks> is it possible to hop off the LTS train?
[10:59] <minimec> keyfur: 'lsusb' in a terminal. Look for the number like this... 046d:c041 ...
[10:59] <OerHeks> keyfur, lsusb should give you enough details, look for the 8 digit hex number
[10:59] <cfhowlett> olf-folks, sure.  download the ISO you want, clean install.
[10:59] <parad0xx_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/
[11:00] <parad0xx_> OerHeks: there
[11:00] <olf-folks> blah
[11:01] <parad0xx_> booted back into xp, it sees both drives just fine
[11:01] <keyfur> Thank you minimec / OerHeks. Is it possible to compare that to a driver? I'm troubleshooting a USB device
[11:01] <parad0xx_> ubuntu can just see the boot drive + flash drives
[11:02] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, sda1 is your windows partition, so i guess you have used the 2nd windows partition to install ubuntu on
[11:02] <minimec> keyfur: With that number you can search the internet in combination with 'ubuntu' or 'linux' to get further information.
[11:03] <parad0xx_> yeah, I had no idea what I was doing, so not sure how I installed it
[11:03] <keyfur> minimec; copy. thank you for the help
[11:03] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, i am sorry to confirm this :-(
[11:03] <cfhowlett> keyfur, also see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wacom_Tablet
[11:04] <parad0xx_> so what did I do?
[11:04] <parad0xx_> no easy way to fix it?
[11:04] <parad0xx_> w/o losing data?
[11:05] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, no, i am afraid your data is gone
[11:05] <keyfur> cfhowlett: brilliant. I'm exploring both those now
[11:05] <parad0xx_> hmm..but xp still sees it
[11:05] <jcrom> howdy
[11:05] <parad0xx_> no way to fix it so ubuntu does too?
[11:06] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, "xp sees it"  did you check it by opening a file?
[11:06] <parad0xx_> no...but I saw all the folders
[11:06] <parad0xx_> didn't actually open a file, no
[11:06] <olf-folks> cfhowlett, what about sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[11:06] <parad0xx_> but the folders were there, isn't that evidence enough?
[11:07] <OerHeks> parad0xx_, xp is fooling you, i guess. try opening a file from within xp
[11:08] <parad0xx_> ok, bbiaf, let me boot in to xp
[11:08] <Ycarene> I'm running an Nvidia Geforce 210 with two monitors, HDMI for my primary and dvi for my secondary.  I'd like to use the HDMI monitor for when I switch to a text console but it seems that it only shows on the DVI monitor, is there a way to use the HDMI for the text console?
[11:09] <creek> OerHeks: I missed the start but did he have win on sda1 and data on sda2 and than install ubuntu on sda2 or something?
[11:09] <OerHeks> creek, yeah, something like that, and there is an cryptswap also
[11:09] <creek> oh :) nice..
[11:10] <creek> Ycarene: swith to text console?
[11:10] <jcrom> what do you all use for IRC? I am using the default Empathy messaging... I'd never heard of it before installing Ubuntu
[11:10] <Guest18080> I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 12.04. My display resolution is stuck at 1024x768. But my Acer monitor supports higher resolutions. I have tried adding new resolutions through xrandr. "xrandr -q" shows: xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[11:10] <Guest18080> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[11:10] <Guest18080> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[11:10] <Guest18080>    1024x768       61.0*
[11:10] <Guest18080>    800x600        61.0
[11:10] <Guest18080>    640x480        60.0
[11:10] <FloodBot1> Guest18080: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <Ycarene> creek using ctrl-alt-f1 thru f6
[11:11] <creek> Ycarene: ah tty... why do you want to use tty?
[11:12] <creek> Why not use a fullscreen terminal?
[11:12] <ola2> how to make a sh script wiht launching a terminal in background with command
[11:12] <ola2> sh script - open terminal in background with command
[11:12] <ola2> help
[11:13] <creek> ola usualy you can start apps with terminal -e appname...
[11:13] <Ycarene> creek - troubleshooting purposes, or if something breaks I'd like to type without craning my neck to look over at the other monitor.
[11:13] <creek> Ycarene: hehehe
[11:13] <Ycarene> creek - does it really matter why though?
[11:14] <Danato> i thought installing kde-full would automatically install me a kde desktop :/
[11:14] <creek> Ycarene: well is the dvi monitor somehow the first hardware monitor?
[11:14] <ola2> ubuntu make sh script to open terminal in background running a command
[11:14] <ola2> help
[11:14] <ola2> ??
[11:15] <Parad0xx> OerHeks: yup, xp sees everything on E: just fine
[11:15] <Parad0xx> in windows now
[11:15] <creek> Ycarene: well its easy to just open a terminal from X and use that. but if you try to fix some X error or other then thats a other matter..
[11:15] <geirha> ola2: gnome-terminal -x the_command &
[11:15] <Parad0xx> opened several files
[11:15] <creek> Parad0xx: than you did not install ubuntu on E:
[11:15] <minimec> Guest18080: Are you sure you use the appropriate driver for you GPU? Did you check 'additional drivers' in 'Software&updates'?
[11:15] <Ycarene> creek - I'm guessing, since that's what shows the bios startup.  In the past with older nvidia cards (using vga+dvi) I got the same thing on both monitors until the graphics driver loaded.
[11:15] <Parad0xx> creek: didnt know I had to :(
[11:15] <Parad0xx> assumed it would see all drives
[11:16] <geirha> ola2: For learning shell scripting with bash, see http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[11:16] <marlo> trying to run 'apt-get install mc --fix-missing' and am getting 'Size mismatch' on .deb files and 'Unable to correct missing packages'
[11:16] <Parad0xx> no way to fix it...beyond reinstalling somehow?
[11:16] <creek> Parad0xx: Nu but you did not overwrite your data...
[11:16] <ola2> i did what u said
[11:16] <ola2> iots working fine
[11:16] <ola2> but a terminal opens
[11:16] <Parad0xx> just want to be able to access files on E: from within ubuntu
[11:16] <ola2> i dont want to see that
[11:16] <creek> Parad0xx: or maybe... I missed the start of what you tried to do..
[11:16] <Guest18080> I am new to Linux. I am using Ubuntu 12.04. My display resolution is stuck at 1024x768. But my Acer monitor supports higher resolutions. I have tried adding new resolutions through xrandr. "xrandr -q" shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375780/
[11:16] <ola2> means terminal invisible
[11:16] <geirha> ola2: You specifically said you wanted a terminal to open ...
[11:17] <ola2> ya
[11:17] <Parad0xx> creek:  I had xp pro on c:, c: was mainly just OS files, and E: used for data
[11:17] <ola2> what u said is working
[11:17] <Parad0xx> 2 drives
[11:17] <ola2> but i want terminal to be invisible
[11:17] <Parad0xx> physical
[11:17] <ola2> means just run that command
[11:17] <ola2> terminal should be invisible
[11:17] <geirha> ola2: so run the command without a terminal
[11:17] <Parad0xx> installed via iso/cd 12.04 yesterday
[11:17] <OerHeks> Parad0xx, odd your paste gives 1 hdd and 1 usb device only
[11:17] <ola2> ya like that
[11:17] <ObrienDave> jcrom a lot of people here use Xchat or HexChat
[11:17] <geirha> ola2: the_command &
[11:17] <ola2> if i run the command the terminal would stuck
[11:17] <Parad0xx> OerHeks: exactly
[11:18] <ola2> ok let me try
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ola2: what does the command do?
[11:18] <Parad0xx> for some reason ubuntu is only seeing the windows C: drive
[11:18] <creek> Parad0xx: and its not jsut two partitions on one drive?
[11:18] <OerHeks> Parad0xx, to enable ntfs partitions, install ntfs-3g ( i hope this works for you)
[11:18] <Parad0xx> no, there are 2 physical drives in the machine
[11:18] <ola2> thanx a lot problem solved with just &
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Parad0xx: is the other healthy?
[11:18] <OerHeks> creek i wonder too, his paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/
[11:18] <Parad0xx> should be
[11:19] <ola2> ActionParsnip : im opening python program
[11:19] <Parad0xx> opened several files just now
[11:19] <jatt> how can I get the capacity of my laptop's hard disk from the command line?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> have had no issues in xp with it
[11:19] <ola2> geirha : thank you very much
[11:19] <ola2> u saved my day
[11:19] <creek> Ycarene: Im not a nvida person.. so I cant help you with that...
[11:19] <creek> Parad0xx: what filesystem is it on E:?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> ntfs?
[11:19] <Parad0xx> I think
[11:20] <Parad0xx> both are
[11:20] <keyfur> Figured it out. My question earlier was how to install wacom drawing tablet drivers. I solved it by typing "lsusb" and googling the 8-digit hex. The "Pen & Touch" model I have is too new and not supported in ubuntu, yet. Confirmation: http://sourceforge.net/p/linuxwacom/mailman/message/31485674/
[11:20] <Ycarene> creek - ahh, well, not a big deal, just a peeve for me.
[11:20] <creek> Parad0xx: its probobly /dev/sdb1 or so...
[11:20] <Parad0xx> yup, both show as ntfs via my computer
[11:20] <creek> Ycarene: It must be possible. ;)
[11:20] <Parad0xx> 300 gb
[11:20] <ljunggren> anyone else cant get restricted drivers to show since 13.10?
[11:20] <Parad0xx> c: is 80
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Parad0xx: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l    do you see the partitions?
[11:21] <Parad0xx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6375719/ was the result of that
[11:21] <Parad0xx> in xp now, both drives functioning normally
[11:21] <creek> I need to install me a webbrowser ^^
[11:22] <Parad0xx> from my little *nix know-how, I see my c: and a flash drive...but I could be wrong
[11:22] <minimec> Ycarene: If I remember well, disable the HDMI output once and only use the DVI one. Like that DVI is set as 'primary' monitor. Now you open the xrandr GUI and activate the HDMI output. Like that HDMI is set 'secondary' monitor. If you switch to console, the console should be shown on the 'primary' DVI output.
[11:22] <DJones> Parad0xx: Is your data drive not the one listed at the bottom /dev/sdb1             248     1965055      982404    b  W95 FAT32
[11:22] <Parad0xx> umm
[11:23] <Parad0xx> e: is 300 gb, with about 100 free
[11:23] <Parad0xx> would that be it?
[11:23] <Parad0xx> according to xp/my computer
[11:23] <creek> Parad0xx: try to mount /dev/sdb1 /media/somplace..
[11:23] <Parad0xx> how?
[11:23] <creek> and than look in to that ls /media/sameplace...
[11:24] <jcrom> going to be trying out bumblebee with my Nvidia switching graphics... wish me luck
[11:24] <Parad0xx> exact command creek?
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: Open terminal, type: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:24] <Parad0xx> ok
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: In same terminal type: ls /mnt
[11:24] <Parad0xx> booting back into ubuntu
[11:24] <creek> Parad0xx: look if you see the files...
[11:25] <auronandace> Parad0xx: if you are using a wubi install i highly recommend you do a normal install
[11:25] <Parad0xx> don't think it's wubi
[11:25] <Parad0xx> I burned an iso from a wubi install on another box...and used that
[11:26] <Parad0xx> booted up from the cd and installed that way on here
[11:26] <minimec> Ycarene: nvidia-settings, not xrandr ... ;)
[11:26] <Parad0xx> k, brb, rebooting back to ubuntu
[11:26] <ljunggren> anyone else cant get restricted drivers to show since 13.10?
[11:28] <minimec> ljunggren: It is possible that the restricted driver for your card has been removed due to incompatibility with the xserver used in 13.10
[11:28] <ljunggren> minimec, it it the same in my laptop with 13.10 not the same gpu
[11:29] <ljunggren> minimec, and i can install them in synaptics... its just software-properties-gtk that crashes while i search for them
[11:29] <minimec> ljunggren: ok. I cannot help you further then.
[11:30] <parad0xx> back
[11:30] <DJones> Parad0xx: Looking at it, the sdb1 looks too small to be your data drive
[11:30] <parad0xx> nope, sdb1 is the flash drive
[11:30] <parad0xx> heh gmta
[11:30] <creek> do you have a sdc?
[11:31] <minimec> ljunggren: Can you open the GPU configuration software of the card. I mean the installation of the package should do a default configuration, and the driver restricted driver would be used automatically.
[11:32] <creek> or maybe its a lod drive with a hda... i dont know if ubuntu still mapps hda
[11:32] <creek> lod/old
[11:32] <parad0xx> what's sdc?
[11:32] <sl1de> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu to an USB stick so i could use that awesome system everywhere :) and thinks i have to be aware of?
[11:32] <sl1de> any*
[11:33] <creek> parad0xx: In linux, scsi and sata drives show up as devices in /dev/sdx* ie /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdc3 and so on...
[11:33] <parad0xx> do I? :)  no idea what I'm doing
[11:33] <minimec> sl1de: Verify to choose the correct MBR to install grub on...
[11:33] <parad0xx> how would I check?
[11:33] <creek> parad0xx: sd is driver type, a,b,c is the drive in order and the number is partition..
[11:33] <minimec> sl1de: No swap.
[11:34] <ljunggren> minimec, what? say that again i dont really got you
[11:34] <parad0xx> I also have a cd/dvd drive, if that matters
[11:34] <ljunggren> minimec, you mean amd catalyst control center?
[11:34] <parad0xx> I did that sudo fdisk -l
[11:34] <parad0xx> and pasted the output
[11:34] <sl1de> minimec: okay got that :)
[11:34] <olf-folks> i was do-dist-upgrade and i tryed the dragndrop feature in terminator and it went a way but it says apt is still running? what should i do now xD
[11:34] <ljunggren> Oh
[11:34] <ljunggren> Dont use terminator
[11:35] <creek> parad0xx: I dont have a webbrowser yet so I cant look at that yet...
[11:35] <parad0xx> o
[11:35] <parad0xx> what else can I try?
[11:35] <creek> parad0xx: if you typ ls /dev/ | grep sd*
[11:36] <creek> and ls /dev/ | grep hd*
[11:36] <minimec> ljunggren: If you installed the fglrx package, it should do an initial configuration I guess. Otherwise you would have to do a 'sudo aticonfig --initial' or something. And yes... Can you open the catalyst center? Do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[11:36] <sl1de> minimec: is it just as easy as that? i always thought it would be a mindkilling process..
[11:36] <creek> you might be able to see what hardware drives there are...
[11:36] <olf-folks> is there a way to use tail or something to see what apt is doing and finnish my install?
[11:36] <parad0xx> I have sda, sda1,2,5,6
[11:37] <parad0xx> sdb, sdb1
[11:37] <SDr> so, I've added a new nginx.conf upstart job; and did an  initctl reload-configuration   ;however, no dice after restarting -it fails to come up automatically
[11:37] <parad0xx> no hd anything
[11:38] <minimec> sl1de: Well. Pay attention to choose the right installation device and the right MBR. That's all it takes. Your stick is seen as normal harddrive.
[11:38] <creek> parad0xx: So your first drive have 4 partitons and the 2nd have one and thats the sdcard/usb...
[11:38] <ljunggren> minimec, i do, but the problem im having is opening restricted drivers too se which is availble in "updates and drivers" .. i installed drivers from amd website but it would be nice to just enable whichever suits my needs
[11:38] <sl1de> minimec: Ah okay thats cool :) Thanks a lot!
[11:38] <parad0xx> so now what?
[11:39] <creek> so ubuntu only see the first drive, sda1 is windows? sda2 is? sda5 is linux maybe? and sda6 is swap?
[11:39] <creek> or where did you install ubuntu?
[11:39] <thunder1212> hi
[11:39] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, greetings
[11:39] <parad0xx> not sure, wherever it defaulted to want to
[11:39] <ljunggren> minimec, i suppose its not a issue since i can install whatever in synaptic anyway.. but still
[11:39] <minimec> ljunggren: There is only one restricted driver available for AMD/ATI. So I don't see the problem. If you don't want to use that one... 'sudo apt-get purge fglrx'...
[11:40] <parad0xx> there was some sort of slider thing...something about choose size of partition?
[11:40] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: should i install openjdk or oracle jdk ?
[11:40] <creek> parad0xx: if you type df -hT
[11:40] <parad0xx> pick like 50 for the left side, 30 for the right
[11:40] <creek> you can see where / is mounted
[11:40] <creek> and what device it is
[11:40] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, I installed openjdk for an adobe online app and it ran great
[11:40] <Hejkki> hi, is there a way to install ubuntu-gnome 13.10 i386 from cd without graphical interface
[11:40] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, of course, YMMV
[11:40] <Hejkki> install from command line
[11:41] <DJones> !minimal | Hejkki
[11:41] <parad0xx> is ext4
[11:41] <ljunggren> minimec, oh ok.. two actually.. the one installed from amd website and the one that comes with ubuntu installable.. i don't know
[11:41] <parad0xx> er, /
[11:41] <parad0xx> and is /sda5
[11:41] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: which is more advanced?
[11:41] <parad0xx> well, /dev/sda5
[11:41] <Hejkki> but minimal can install gnome straight from installation?
[11:41] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: is oracle java secure?
[11:42] <creek> parad0xx: so linux is sda5 and windows C: is sda1... whats sda2?
[11:42] <parad0xx> size 18 gig 3 used
[11:42] <cfhowlett> thunder1212, IDK, IDC, I just wanted it to work.  Ask someone smarter than I
[11:42] <DJones> Hejkki: You can also install 13.10 as normal but just boot up in text mode
[11:42] <DJones> !text | Hejkki
[11:42] <ljunggren> How can i know which version of CCC will be installed by fgrlx-updates? is it far behind from the one from AMD website? anyone?
[11:42] <thunder1212> cfhowlett: ok thanks!
[11:42] <parad0xx> that df line doesn't show sda2
[11:42] <creek> parad0xx: umount /mnt && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt && ls /mnt
[11:43] <Hejkki> i'm going to use the gnome but for some reason the ubuntu-gnome 13.10 installation cd will not start the graphical installation program
[11:43] <minimec> ljunggren: Having two version of fglrx might cause problems with the fglrx kernel module I guess.
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, well i don't have them installed at the same time.. im sorry i already got my answer thanks!
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: I would only use the one provided by ubuntu...
[11:44] <parad0xx>  /mnt is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: ok.
[11:44] <parad0xx> wait, sudo in front of all that?
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, you would eh... must i completely remove the one from amd website?
[11:44] <DJones> Hejkki: Do you mean Gnome or the normal Unity interface, I'm not certain about Ubuntu-Gnome itself, but I would have thought it had a similar minimal install iso
[11:44] <creek> parad0xx: oh..
[11:44] <ljunggren> minimec, i want to use the one that came with ubuntu
[11:44] <ljunggren> even if its behind
[11:44] <Hejkki> DJones: not unity
[11:44] <DJones> parad0xx: sda2 is just the extended partition
[11:44] <creek> parad0xx: sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt && ls /mnt
[11:44] <minimec> ljunggren: I would remove the one of the website.
[11:45] <creek> ah
[11:45] <jamie42> I actually have a relevant question that you might be able to answer!!!
[11:45] <Hejkki> and dmesg says something like nouveau E[  PFIFO] ..... CACHE_ERROR - ch 2 [gnome-shell... and so on.....
[11:45] <creek> parad0xx: what DJones says..
[11:45] <DJones> parad0xx: sda2 is split into two partitions sda5 & sda6
[11:45] <Hejkki> in the installation
[11:45] <parad0xx> so wait, still do that command, but with sudo? or don't do it now
[11:45] <jamie42> there is some kind of command that gives the Ubuntu code name (ie lucid) and the version (ie 10.04)
[11:45] <jamie42> what is this command????
[11:45] <creek> parad0xx: so somehow your "E" drive is not at all
[11:46] <creek> parad0xx: Dont!
[11:46] <cfhowlett> jamie42, lsb_release -a
[11:46] <parad0xx> ok
[11:46] <chrys-studio> 'llo v'rybody
[11:46] <parad0xx> didn't
[11:46] <Mimmo> ciao
[11:46] <parad0xx> whew ;), well, did, but w/o sudo
[11:46] <creek> :P
[11:46] <parad0xx> so, don't think it did anything
[11:46] <chrys-studio> hello wimmo
[11:46] <Mimmo> !list
[11:46] <jamie42> cfhowlett: Thanks!  That's just what I wanted
[11:46] <creek> nop
[11:46] <DJones> Hejkki: I would assume that you can use the minimal iso to get a text based system, then install the gnome desktop fairly easily
[11:46] <parad0xx> yeah, E: doesn't appear to be seen at all
[11:46] <ljunggren> minimec, just uninstall by synaptics?
[11:46] <parad0xx> by ubuntu
[11:46] <Hejkki> DJones: ok
[11:46] <jamie42> cfhowlett: if you have any perl questions then please just ask
[11:47] <parad0xx> no clue why...what else can I try?
[11:47] <creek> parad0xx: so... is it some special kind of drive that the ubuntu kernel does not have drivers for?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> jamie42, thanks, none at the moment or foreseeable future
[11:47] <parad0xx> shouldn't be
[11:47] <chrys-studio> have connection troubles. i installed, connected, switch on ufw during install, reboot, and US refused my very same connection PW
[11:47] <jamie42> cfhowlett: I also do C / python / Scala / shell but perl is easiest :)
[11:47] <parad0xx> random 300 gb drive I got off ebay
[11:47] <jamie42> cfhowlett: NP :) thanks again
[11:47] <cfhowlett> jamie42, good to know
[11:47] <creek> parad0xx: and its connected how?
[11:47] <parad0xx> 2nd sata port on mobo?
[11:48] <chrys-studio> wifi working during install but not after
[11:48] <MarkDavis> Hi.
[11:48] <creek> than it sould be sdb..
[11:48] <chrys-studio> sdb, pls ?
[11:48] <matthias_arch> my cronjob runs a bash script which runs a python script. the python script does not get completely run. when i run the bash script from various paths there is no problem
[11:49] <creek> parad0xx: but that was the usb/sdcard?
[11:49] <parad0xx> right, odd, right? :)
[11:49] <chrys-studio> creek, sdb, , pls ?
[11:49] <somsip> matthias_arch: environmental variable problem?
[11:49] <MarkDavis> I have installed drivers for a Brother multifunctional device, but it doesn't work. Can somebody help me? I haven't installed those from Brother's repository but those from Ubuntu native packages.
[11:49] <creek> chrys-studio: I was talking to parad0xx ...
[11:49] <parad0xx> pissing me off, no idea why it won't see it
[11:49] <matthias_arch> my crontab -e line. */1 * * * * /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.sh
[11:49] <chrys-studio> ok
[11:49] <parad0xx> ::sigh::
[11:49] <creek> try remove all usb and such and reboot?
[11:49] <parad0xx> ok
[11:49] <chrys-studio> creek : what u mean by sdb, pls
[11:50] <somsip> matthias_arch: you need to pastebin the script, and * * * * * is the same as */1 * * * *
[11:50] <creek> chrys-studio: sdb is a haddrive...
[11:50] <parad0xx> wait, do I have to umount anything?
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i think not, because when i type /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.sh in the console it is executed fine
[11:50] <chrys-studio> ha, sdb 4 paradox, ok
[11:50] <chrys-studio> lol
[11:50] <creek> parad0xx: no
[11:50] <parad0xx> ok
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i modified it from 30 to 1 because of testing
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:50] <creek> shutdown, unplugg boot...
[11:50] <matthias_arch> somsip: i can paste the sh script
[11:50] <somsip> matthias_arch: and it's running as your user, in your current shell. When run as a cronjob, this is not necessarily the same
[11:50] <parad0xx> brb, unpluggng usb drive, and rebooting
[11:51] <chrys-studio> any idea, creek ?
[11:51] <creek> chrys-studio: why wifi dont work?
[11:52] <creek> chrys-studio: why wifi dont work?
[11:52] <matthias_arch> somsip: http://pastebin.com/VVuuYsKd
[11:52] <Hejkki> brasero crashed, great
[11:53] <matthias_arch> somsip: if there is a environment variable error, how can i catch it?
[11:53] <somsip> matthias_arch: not sure why you don't just have 'python /mnt.hdd/..etc' in your crontab... But at what point does this fail?
[11:53] <parad0xx> k, done
[11:54] <creek> parad0xx: and now? only sda?
[11:54] <parad0xx> not showing up in nautilus yet
[11:54] <parad0xx> fdisk -l again?
[11:54] <parad0xx> sudo
[11:54] <cfhowlett> chrys-studio, plug in a hardwired network.  run the system>additional drivers tool    and that might install your wifi correctly
[11:54] <matthias_arch> somsip: at the beginning i had python ... The bot goes on 4 links, afterthat he does some calculations and then the execution stops
[11:54] <chrys-studio> creek : it catch networks but refused the same PW accepted during install process
[11:55] <creek> parad0xx: if you typ ls /dev/ | grep sd*
[11:55] <parad0xx> sda 1, 2, 5 and 6
[11:55] <parad0xx> o
[11:55] <chrys-studio> creek : wifi installed correctly, wifi fetects but refuse PW
[11:55] <geirha> matthias_arch: * * * * * python /mnt/hdd/stundenplan/bot.py >/tmp/botoutput 2>&1       # then wait for it to run once and see what output you got in /tmp/botoutput
[11:56] <creek> pw? so... you cant enter the password?
[11:56] <parad0xx> yeah, sda, and then 1,2,5,6
[11:56] <creek> parad0xx: well... sorry :P
[11:56] <somsip> matthias_arch: does your bot.py output any logging anywhere?....oh, as geirha has said, or something like that to catch output
[11:56] <parad0xx> o, when I boot..I get something about cryptswapper drive not ready or not present...
[11:56] <parad0xx> continue to wait, press s, or m for manual recovery
[11:56] <creek> parad0xx: Its probobly some harware or driver thing...
[11:56] <parad0xx> I think I picked to encrypt my home dir
[11:57] <geirha> matthias_arch: On a side note, don't run bash scripts with sh. sh != bash
[11:57] <DJones> parad0xx: Just a daft thought, you said the 2nd drive is connected to the 2nd sata port on the motherboard, is your first drive conected to the 1st sata port
[11:57] <creek> parad0xx: cryptoswap is the swap partition
[11:57] <matthias_arch> somsip: it logs the 4 links and then after the calculations. wait a second
[11:57] <parad0xx> DJones: I assume so, pretty sure
[11:57] <creek> DJones: thinking hardware... :)
[11:57] <parad0xx> came with 1 drive, I bought one off of ebay, and a sata cable
[11:57] <parad0xx> installed it
[11:57] <sl1de> parad0xx: what are you trying to do?
[11:58] <chrys-studio> crrek, sorry, deconected. did u get it ?
[11:58] <parad0xx> sl1de: ubuntu can't see my 2nd hard drive
[11:58] <creek> chrys-studio: pw? so... you cant enter the password?
[11:58] <parad0xx> xp sees both physical drives fine
[11:58] <creek> sl1de: his missing a harddrive..
[11:58] <parad0xx> ubuntu just sees the boot drive
[11:58] <creek> sl1de: it does not show up in /dev..
[11:58] <thunder1212> which is better (performance wise) oracle java or openjdk java?
[11:58] <matthias_arch> somsip: geirha: http://pastebin.com/cLSKn7zq
[11:59] <DJones> parad0xx: THe only reason I asked was in case the two drives were connected to two different sata pieces of hardware and the driver for the 2nd one wasn;t being detected, but if they're both running off the same sata card that shouldn't be the case
[11:59] <sl1de> creek: okay, that seems to be strange..
[11:59] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, should be
[11:59] <geirha> matthias_arch: does it do setlocale(LC_ALL,"") ?
[12:00] <parad0xx> xp sees em both fine, I never installed any special drivers..not like it's some obscure drive
[12:00] <parad0xx> random 300 gb western digital I think
[12:00] <parad0xx> sata
[12:00] <matthias_arch> geirha: you mean in bot.py ? if so no
[12:01] <chrys-studio> ok, somebdy ? i connected internet during install, then switch on UFW, then reboot after install from hd, the founded out wifi works but refused the very same pw given during install that did connect to internet
[12:01] <parad0xx> so, I'm pretty much screwed? :)
[12:01] <geirha> matthias_arch: Then there's a bug in your python script, failing to convert unicode to str correctly
[12:01] <creek> thunder1212: no java ;)
[12:01] <parad0xx> might give up on ubuntu then, I need access to that drive
[12:01] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:01] <parad0xx> creek :(
[12:02] <matthias_arch> geirha: ok i haven't found it because the python script runs fine in terminal
[12:02] <DJones> parad0xx: Hopefully not, I'd say ask the question again in little while, somebody may join the channel between now and then that can help
[12:02] <parad0xx> wb creek
[12:02] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, I posted on some web forum too
[12:02] <creek> wb?
[12:02] <parad0xx> welcome back
[12:02] <creek> ah
[12:02] <parad0xx> sorry
[12:03] <thunder12121> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java is this repo secure?
[12:03] <chrys-studio> some 1 can help me, pliz ?  somebdy ? i connected internet during install, then switch on UFW, then reboot after install from hd, the founded out wifi works but refused the very same pw given during install that did connect to internet
[12:03] <sl1de> chrys-studio: spamming wont solve your problem
[12:03] <cfhowlett> !patience|chrys-studio,
[12:03] <sl1de> chrys-studio: did u check your spelling?
[12:03] <chrys-studio> pw spelling ? yes
[12:04] <creek> chrys-studio: it can be any number of problems..
[12:04] <chrys-studio> switching on ufw during install , maybe ?
[12:04] <parad0xx> DJones: yeah, I will ask again in a bit
[12:04] <thunder12121> ?
[12:04] <parad0xx> thanks DJones and creek for trying
[12:04] <parad0xx> :)
[12:04] <thunder12121> is adding repos secure?
[12:05] <creek> thunder12121: if you trust the creator..yes
[12:05] <buu> parad0xx: Have you tried swapping which ports and cables the drives are plugged into? Along with trying different cables and drives entirely?
[12:05] <OerHeks> thunder12121, adding PPA's is at your own risk.
[12:05] <thunder12121> creek: how about this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[12:05] <chrys-studio> ok, i see, i reboot n reinstall w/out ufw switching on, i understand, tx 4 help
[12:05] <parad0xx> buu: no, I have not opened up the box and done anything
[12:06] <thunder12121> OerHeks: ok
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Does dmesg say anything?
[12:06] <parad0xx> go to a term prompt and type: dmesg
[12:06] <parad0xx> ?
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Just to verify, when in linux, you only see /dev/sda and no /dev/sd* anything else?
[12:06] <parad0xx> newbie here :)
[12:06] <thunder12121> OerHeks: it falls outside ubuntu right?
[12:06] <creek> yes
[12:06] <buu> parad0xx: Yes, it is a console command.
[12:06] <creek> parad0xx: yes
[12:06] <parad0xx> ok
[12:06] <creek> maybe sudo dmesg
[12:07] <parad0xx> wow
[12:07] <OerHeks> thunder12121, yes, we cannot give support, evenit is a well known ppa
[12:07] <parad0xx> lots of stuff that printed out
[12:07] <creek> parad0xx: and than maybe do a | grep for somethig ;)
[12:07] <thunder12121> OerHeks: is canonical partners ok?
[12:07] <sl1de> During my installation of Ubuntu i got a fatal error: Executing 'grub-install /dev/sdb' failed.   any piece of advice?
[12:07] <parad0xx> creek: ?
[12:08] <buu> parad0xx: If you can manage it, paste it all to a site, otherwise scan it for lines that involve the string 'dev' and 'sd'
[12:08] <OerHeks> thunder12121, any repository in softwarecenter is oke.
[12:08] <buu> parad0xx: dmesg | grep sd
[12:08] <cfhowlett> sl1de, more than 1 hdd?
[12:08] <thunder12121> OerHeks: is openjdk and oracle java the same?
[12:09] <parad0xx> ok, that was a lot less output ;)
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !openjdk
[12:09] <OerHeks> no, openJDK is the open source version for java.
[12:09] <osubuntu> who created openjdk anyways?
[12:09] <thunder12121> OerHeks: ok , which is more advanced?
[12:09] <creek> osubuntu: google it ;)
[12:09] <OerHeks> if a website demands to install oracle java, i leave it.
[12:10] <creek> osubuntu: its probobly on wikipedia too.
[12:10] <parad0xx> buu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6376010/
[12:10] <parad0xx> was the dmesg & gred sd
[12:10] <parad0xx> want the whole dmesg too?
[12:11] <buu> parad0xx: Welp. That's not terribly helpful. Sure, the whole *might* help a tad more.
[12:11] <parad0xx> k
[12:11] <buu> You're sure they're both sata drives?
[12:11] <thunder12121> OerHeks: i guess that majority websites require oracle java because i had to use a web site called cisco webex and it reqiured java and it wasnt working fine and kept crashing..
[12:12] <sl1de> cfhowlett:  i tried to install ubuntu to an USB Stick
[12:12] <parad0xx> yes
[12:12] <parad0xx> both sata
[12:12] <parad0xx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6376017/
[12:12] <creek> buu: is there a boot log in ubunt.. one that logs the hardware derection betofe dmesg?
[12:12] <cfhowlett> sl1de, okay ...
[12:12] <buu> creek: Uh, I don't think so...
[12:12] <sl1de> cfhowlett: i got some apple partitions, my ubuntu live stick (sdc) and  sdb which is the stick i want to install ubuntu on..
[12:13] <sl1de> cfhowlett:  sdb got 2 partitions, boot and root
[12:13] <cfhowlett> sl1de, right
[12:13] <ObrienDave> sl1de, what are you using to make the USB stick?
[12:13] <matthias_arch> geirha: Thanks for your support! ;) Working again now! I had to add this lines reload(sys)
[12:13] <matthias_arch> sys.setdefaultencoding("UTF-8")
[12:13] <matthias_arch> print sys.getdefaultencoding()
[12:13] <sl1de> ObrienDave: the live stick?
[12:13] <ObrienDave> yes
[12:13] <sl1de> i used dd
[12:13] <parad0xx> there
[12:14] <ObrienDave> sl1de, have you tried using unetbootin
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> creek: how would that happen? it could only really occur in BIOS
[12:15] <cfhowlett> sl1de, unetbootin ^^^
[12:15] <sl1de> ObrienDave: cfhowlett :  i guess my livestick works properly, because i used it to install ubuntu to another laptop which worked fine
[12:15] <parad0xx> buu: see anything unusual in there?
[12:16] <buu> parad0xx: This is a long shot but can you boot into windows and run fsck on your second hd?
[12:16] <ObrienDave> sl1de, but that is still a live system, different than INSTALLING to a USB stick
[12:17] <creek> parad0xx: you have a typical "i tried linux and it did not work" kind of error ;)
[12:17] <sl1de> ObrienDave: i know, thats why i tried following:  Booting from SDC (my live stick) on my laptop (sda)  and trying to INSTALL ubuntu to another stick (sdb)
[12:17] <parad0xx> creek: haha
[12:17] <parad0xx> yeah
[12:18] <parad0xx> was all excited when I finally decided to try it...now I'm scared ;)
[12:18] <DJones> parad0xx: Which Ubuntu version are you using
[12:18] <parad0xx> 12.04 lts
[12:18] <parad0xx> buu: I suppose
[12:19] <ObrienDave> sl1de, thinking *smell the smoke?*
[12:19] <buu> parad0xx: The other suggestions seem to involve changing to 'compatability mode' for your sata drives in the vios
[12:19] <buu> bios*
[12:20] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:20] <buu> "if you change at the BIOS the options of the SATA from "AHCI" to "COMPATIBILITY", the problem is solved"
[12:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:20] <parad0xx> hmm
[12:20] <parad0xx> ok, I will try that
[12:20] <sl1de> ObrienDave: installation went fine till it wanted to install grub.. i just choose  sdb as i would normally do it.. then i got some fatal error and the system kills itself :S
[12:20] <parad0xx> brb
[12:20] <parad0xx> rebooting
[12:21] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:21] <ObrienDave> sl1de, have you tried using the ISO and unetbootin to make the new USB stick?
[12:22] <sl1de> ObrienDave: so i could create a Portable USB stick with unetbooting?  (which i can work with, etc )
[12:23] <ObrienDave> yep, I have several
[12:23] <sl1de> ObrienDave: oh okay, thats nice.. didnt knew that. i Gonna give it a try :)
[12:24] <enchie>  Hey guys just wondering if someone could assist me in "installing" (not too sure what the process involves) a wireless network adapter on Lubuntu, cause the IRC over there seems to dead air (nooones replying)
[12:24] <enchie>  Its a DLINK DWA-510 wireless adapter, lspci shows the firmware to be RaLink Rt2561/RT61 and where it says Capabilities it states <access denied> anyone know where i move forward from here?
[12:26] <enchie> hello?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|enchie,
[12:27] <enchie> lol just checking that people can actually see that im sending something
[12:29] <rneese> mornin
[12:29] <rneese> on ubuntu whay is the proper repo for firmware for wifi devices ?
[12:30] <bekks> rneese: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware :P
[12:32] <rneese> ok well on dbe it apt-get install firmware-(NAME)
[12:32] <rneese> so a little diff
[12:33] <ObrienDave> sl1de, better yet, burn ISO to DVD, boot DVD, use that to install to USB
[12:34] <sl1de> ObrienDave: That is nearly the same as what i just did
[12:34] <sl1de> ObrienDave:  but i used 2 usb sticks :D
[12:35] <ObrienDave> sorry, early morning here. tired :/
[12:35] <elisuccia> una spia al liceo
[12:36] <cfhowlett> !it|elisuccia,
[12:41] <jatt`> which is the fastest way to clone a home directory to an external SATA drive?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jatt`: copy it using nautilus, or rsync, or grsync
[12:44] <creek> channel died.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !netsplit
[12:49] <Rootza> Hi there i run dual displayes on my AMD HD6670 using the catalyst software the laucher is on my descondary display and the option to slect where the laucnher goes is not in the display settings and i cant seem to find it in catalyst can anybody help?
[12:51] <creek> Rootza: sounds like your 2nd display is the first in ubuntu..
[12:51] <Rootza> seems that way
[12:51] <Rootza> any idea how to set it as my 2ed?
[12:52] <creek> well not sure.. but it can be as simpel as to change it in settings in ubuntu or in catalyst or you might have to rearrange the screens in Xorg?
[12:53] <Rootza> i did look in both catlyst and the ubuntu display settings for a way to do this but no luck
[12:53] <creek> xrandr?
[12:53] <Rootza> nope
[12:54] <creek> you cant change display 1 to 2?
[12:54] <Rootza> actually
[12:54] <Rootza> just checked on catalyst
[12:54] <Rootza> seems my screen 1 is screen 1 and my secondsary is 2
[12:54] <juanmi513> hi
[12:54] <enchie> Can anyone see this?
[12:54] <creek> Maybe the driver loads them in the other way..
[12:55] <creek> yes we can enchie
[12:55] <creek> or I can
[12:55] <thunder12121> hi can i disable suggestions from firefox to install gmail plugin , youtube plugin, facebook plugin etc?
[12:55] <Rootza> possibly so what would you sugest removing and reinstalling the driver?
[12:55] <creek> Rootza: no
[12:55] <Rootza> ok
[12:55] <enchie> thank god, is the lubuntu IRC down?
[12:55] <creek> Rootza: is it hdmi and dvi?
[12:56] <bekks> Rootza: This is not Windows, reinstalling software most likely doesnt fix a problem ;)
[12:56] <Rootza> main is vga (crap ikr) seconday is DVI
[12:56] <creek> DVI takes precense over vga..
[12:56] <bekks> Rootza: Why is VGA crap?
[12:56] <creek> DVI loads as first and vga as 2nd..
[12:56] <Rootza> because i have the option of HDMI :p
[12:56] <Rootza> but im just slightly lazy
[12:56] <bekks> creek: Thats not true :)
[12:56] <creek> Move your screens around ;)
[12:57] <enchie> Do I need to install drivers for a wireless pci adapter? I read somewhere they should already be in the kernel
[12:57] <iceroot_> bekks: vga is analog, dvi is (normally) digital
[12:57] <bekks> creek: The first adapter, most likely the internal one, takes precedence.
[12:57] <Rootza> lol
[12:57] <Rootza> but one is tiny
[12:57] <Rootza> other is masive
[12:57] <NCsaba> thunder12121: http://askubuntu.com/questions/214755/how-to-remove-unity-web-apps
[12:57] <bekks> iceroot_: I know that.
[12:57] <creek> bekks: yes true..
[12:57] <juanmi513> i have installed VM Virtual Box in a W7 PC. My first installation on VM is Ubuntu Studio 13. I was set VM (U-Studio profile) to share a folder, it's ok. The problem is that i don't found that folder into the Ubuntu filesystem. Somebody knows where can be? Thanks
[12:57] <Rootza> hence why its my main
[12:57] <Rootza> secondary is only for monitoring servers and a spare for other things
[12:57] <Rootza> as its tiny :p
[12:57] <bekks> juanmi513: You have to mount it.
[12:57] <juanmi513> thanks!
[12:57] <juanmi513> but.. how? xD
[12:58] <NCsaba> thunder12121: if you don't want to unuinstall just disable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206710/how-do-i-disable-unity-webapps-notifications-from-popping-up-everytime-i-visit-a
[12:58] <creek> Rootza: I was thinking of some graphics card with dvi and vga...
[12:58] <Rootza> oh
[12:58] <creek> dvi takes precents in most cases..
[12:58] <bekks> juanmi513: Like this: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#sharedfolders
[12:58] <Rootza> mine has vga dvi and hdmi :p
[12:58] <thunder12121> NCsaba: thnx the disable one is the best..:)
[12:59] <enchie> Do I need to install drivers for a wireless pci adapter? I read somewhere they should already be in the kernel :/
[12:59] <juanmi513> thanks a lot bekks!
[12:59] <Rootza> so you sugest i stop being lazy and plug in my hdmi
[12:59] <Rootza> that should work correct?
[12:59] <bekks> enchie: Depends on your adapter.
[12:59] <NCsaba> enchie: I think that depends on your adapted
[12:59] <Rootza> or move the dvi to my main
[12:59] <bekks> !wifi | enchie
[12:59] <creek> Rootza: maybe.
[12:59] <Rootza> hmm
[12:59] <Rootza> 2 mins
[13:00] <enchie> ubottu, can you see anything I write in the lubuntu irc?
[13:00] <enchie> rofl
[13:00] <esde> i suspended my computer last night and this morning didn't get on it like I normally do, and now I'm at work with the computer still suspended and no access to it as a result. I have teamviewer installed but it's obviously not running right now :/ I do have remote access to a pc on the same lan, is there anyway I could send some packet to the suspended ubuntu box to make it "wake up'/
[13:00] <esde> wol is not configured
[13:00] <Rootza> ah.... actually i cant :/
[13:00] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm..didn't see anything for ahci/compat...but saw normal/legacy...tried legacy...no dice
[13:00] <NCsaba> juanmi513: try this https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15868
[13:01] <Rootza> creek any other ideas?
[13:01] <bekks> esde: Shutdown your computer, restart it.
[13:01] <creek> Rootza: man xrandr mayby?
[13:01] <Rootza> ok
[13:01] <bekks> NCsaba: He should read the official documentation first, since it even provides examples.
[13:01] <esde> bekks i cant. no ssh or remote access
[13:02] <Rootza> nothing
[13:02] <bekks> esde: Then you have to get physical access anyways.
[13:02] <bekks> esde: Without a chance to get onto the server, you cant solve a problem.
[13:02] <esde> ah. thats what i thought but figured id ask. thank you
[13:02] <NCsaba> bekks: right
[13:02] <creek> Rootza: archwiki has a nice article on this ;)
[13:03] <Rootza> ok :p
[13:03] <Rootza> *googles*
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> k, have to get some work done...I'll ask around in here later
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> ::sigh::
[13:03] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks for trying guys
[13:03] <CatKiller> esde: If "Wake On Lan" is enabled and you have a compatible NIC
[13:03] <CatKiller> esde: It might work
[13:04] <CatKiller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[13:04] <bekks> CatKiller: The box didnt come up correctly. Not a WOL issue :)
[13:04] <esde> No it's not that it didn't come up properly. I didn't wake it before I left. So it's just sitting there suspended and asleep :(
[13:04] <CatKiller> I hadn't read "wol is not configured" sorry
[13:04] <esde> And my SO wont be home for like another 4 hours to wake up
[13:05] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: Still the same issue with the 2nd drive?
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> in xp now
[13:05] <PaRaD0xxR> tried legacy mode, nothing
[13:05] <enchie> According to the docs my wifi card should be detected automotically on boot and the network should just connect with no addtional actions....that's not the case, also im on lubuntu (which their docs direct me to the ubunutu ones which have a completely different interface, i have no idea whats going on)
[13:06] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR:: I'm wondering whether the two drives are connected to different sata connections, the 2nd of which may not be supported in 12.04, it might be worth downloading 13.10 and putting it on a usb stick and just booting up with that in the try Ubuntu mode and seeing if that detects both disks.  As its the latest version, it may have a different/additional driver that lets it detect the other drive
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> hmmm
[13:06] <bekks> enchie: So which wifi chipset do you have, and did you configure it correctly?
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, I guess I could try that
[13:06] <DJones> PaRaD0xxR: Thats about my last thought on the issue
[13:06] <PaRaD0xxR> it's just connected to another port on the motherboard, stock
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> but I will try 13.10 on a flash drive to check
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> sometime
[13:07] <PaRaD0xxR> thanks DJones for trying anyways ;)
[13:07] <esde> CatKiller, that worked :D
[13:07] <enchie> bekks, my chipset is RaLink RT2561/RT61 rev B (an DLINK DWA 510), where would I configure it?
[13:08]  * esde adds to bag of tricks :)
[13:08] <bekks> enchie: By checking wether the driver is loaded, by setting up the connnection, etc.
[13:08] <bekks> enchie: I had the DWA510 myself, and threw it away after three days.
[13:08] <hayer> Will a service (that I wrote) which uses 30secs to startup get a timeout when booting?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> hayer: what would the timeout be caused by? what is it trying to do?
[13:10] <enchie> bekks, well when I lspci -v where it says Capabilities it states <access denied>. This isnt going to be doing any "heavy lifting" it's simply for my mom to go on facebook on a crappy 1mbps connection
[13:10] <creek> dfrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr[13:10] <creek> sorry, cat on keyboard..
[13:10] <bekks> enchie: Then check wether the driver is loaded, by setting up the connnection, etc.
[13:10] <PaRaD0xxR> creek: haha
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> hayer: services will continue to start even if the user has logged in etc, it doesnt give up because a user logged in, or the login prompt was presented before it completed
[13:10] <savetheinternet> yoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyoloyolo
[13:10] <hayer> ActionParsnip: Well, the service daemon uses about 30sec to start -- I thought the OS might kill it since it uses so long
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> hayer: as long as it is active, its fine. Just background the process so the boot doesn't hang
[13:11] <hayer> ActionParsnip: Ah, thats what I thought after reading the manpages, just had to be sure.
[13:11] <enchie> bekks, how do I go about that? lsmod?
[13:11] <bekks> enchie: Thats described in the link ubottu provided.
[13:12] <hayer> enchie: 1mbps connection? Well, if you really love your mum you should; a) Get her a better connection  b) Kill her
[13:13] <enchie> hayer, I live in South Africa, you gona come unmonopolise our telecoms industry for me?
[13:13] <hayer> pick one -- I went with A, now she is just watching netflix from 18:00 till she goes to bed.
[13:14] <hayer> enchie: sure. How much can you invest? I about 100bill dollars.
[13:14] <bekks> hayer: LOL. For that money, you get 5 wifi adapters.
[13:14] <enchie> hayer, some people arent over priviledged in this world please stop being trivial
[13:15] <hayer> enchie: So now I'm over priviledged? Since I work from 8 to 8.. bhrt.
[13:16] <enchie> hayer, not even going to respond anymore...
[13:16] <LjL> hayer: i'm not really seeing what may make you think your recent statements are appropriate for this channel
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !topic
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !ot
[13:22] <schnitzl> hi! :)   generel question: when setting up a server, is it recommended to make a new user for each service i want to run? e.g. i want to set up an irc bouncer, znc. so i create, lets say, a user called znc?
[13:23] <LjL> schnitzl: it tends to be a good idea i'd say, to the point a few service packages do it autoamtically when installed
[13:23] <LjL> schnitzl: though you may want to go even further with some services and run them in a sandbox, possibly
[13:24] <hayer> schnitzl: If you are going to run ZNC, get the latest stable from git. The one in package-repo is way too old
[13:24] <schnitzl> okay.
[13:24] <schnitzl> thx guys.
[13:25] <hellangel> hayer, the story of all packages in ubuntu :)
[13:25] <schnitzl> but...if i get the latest from git. do i have to compile it as user znc? i mean....i dont want to open ssh for user znc, but how to i compile as user znc and run it as user znc without opening ssh for user znc.
[13:26] <hellangel> schnitzl, connect however you want, "su znc"
[13:26] <schnitzl> okay. good. thats what i didnt get. then, later, i want to run znc via upstart
[13:27] <schnitzl> so. i create in /etc/init/znc.conf
[13:27] <schnitzl> is that all i have to do? cause right now its not working. :(( do i have to make chmod +x znc.conf ?
[13:27] <schnitzl> LjL: whats a good sandbox tool for console only?
[13:28] <hellangel> schnitzl, if you run ZNC as user ZNC, you might wanna put the config in your znc users home folder
[13:28] <schnitzl> exactly
[13:29] <LjL> schnitzl, a lightweight mechanism that's often used for console services is "chroot", which basically just involves a kernel mechanism to make your program see a specific directory as its entire filesystem
[13:29] <enchie> bekks, Im really lost, and new to this. the first step of the howto of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking and Im already a gonner, since im on lubuntu and the menu is completely different
[13:30] <schnitzl> LjL: yeeee. finally a understandable explaination of chroot. never understood whats this stuff for.
[13:30] <bekks> enchie: Did you check wether the driver isloaded and the interface is active?
[13:34] <schnitzl> hellangel: so. i create the user znc and config znc as user znc...then i put, to autostart, a script into /etc/init/znc.conf, right? is that all i have to do? cause right now its not working. :(( do i have to make chmod +x znc.conf ?
[13:36] <hellangel> schnitzl, you have to read a tutorial how to actually do it
[13:36] <hellangel> and not guess around ;)
[13:36] <hellangel> http://wiki.znc.in/Installation
[13:36] <FailDrain> is gtk 3.0 dev libraries installed on Ubuntu By default?
[13:36] <FailDrain> it's all very confusing
[13:36] <schnitzl> i tried to find some. the problem is, znc tuts just explain how to install it, but not from a point of view as a new special ZNC user in gerenal. :(
[13:37] <schnitzl> like the combination of new user + znc. i think its considered as basic knowledge...
[13:37] <hellangel> schnitzl, in general ZNC is _always_ run by a user named znc and all tutorials i have seen so far are suggesting to run it as another user
[13:38] <hellangel> if you install it as a package, the package will add the user znc etc
[13:38] <hellangel> also "ZNC is run by just executing znc under the dedicated znc user, at which stage it goes to background. It does not make an init.d service for itself nor does it need to be run in screen or something similar.
[13:38] <hellangel> "
[13:39] <schnitzl> ahhh. okay. means. if i just type "znc" in console as user schnitzl it executes znc as user znc? didnt know this is possible.
[13:42] <SirFunk_> so for some reason. Whenever I login after resuming from suspend, I stay logged in for about 15 seconds then it logs me back out and i have to login again. Any ideas what may cause this or how to fix it?
[13:43] <hellangel> schnitzl, read what i copypasted again ;)
[13:43] <hellangel> you dont run it as schnitzl, you run it as znc
[13:46] <schnitzl> not sure what it means..but thank you anyways :)
[13:47] <hellangel> schnitzl, probiers mal damit: http://irc-guide.de/wiki/Main/ZncInstallation
[13:47] <olf-folks> im trying out irssi, can any one hear me?
[13:47] <hellangel> olf-folks, no, but i read you just fine
[13:47] <schnitzl> danke
[13:47] <hellangel> schnitzl, gern
[13:47] <schnitzl> :)
[13:47] <olf-folks> hellangel: cool its working
[13:49] <docmur> does anyone know where to get a copy of the RT2870 driver?  I went to the webpage but there is link to the driver on the site
[13:52] <wicky> df -k
[13:52] <badass2> Yeah yeah
[13:52] <badass2> Hey all
[13:55] <docmur> had to leave for a second, back my question was where to find the rt2870 driver, the website for ra doens't have a link to it
[13:56] <A_J_> hello all. I'm suspecting my internet connection is disconnecting frequently. Can someone help me with a command to ping say google every minute and store these details into a text file with timestamps
[13:56] <vs8240> hi all
[13:56] <bekks> docmur: Did you follow the ubuntu docs for that driver?
[13:56] <ObrienDave> http://driverscollection.com/?H=RT2870&By=Ralink
[13:56] <docmur> the first step was to go and download the driver which wasn't available, unless I had the wrong doc
[13:57] <ObrienDave> that was easy
[13:57] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.
[13:58] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders.
[14:00] <tester> can anyone help me with sed command
[14:01] <tester> join #gnome-shell
[14:01] <TauNeutrino> hey guys, the presentation worked out good, everything worked. But I need some reasons again why I use Ubuntu and why it's awesome. Any suggestions?
[14:02] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders.  can anyone help
[14:02] <ObrienDave> FREE comes to mind ;)
[14:02] <elisuccia> xdcc send #
[14:02] <vs8240> I am having ubuntu 12.04 server installed as webserver and windows server 2008 installed as data server.Problem is when i call images from windows server in website. images does not appears in browser. while the both the servers are synchronized and shows the files and folders. can any one help
[14:02] <TauNeutrino> Ok but that's not so motivating
[14:03] <TauNeutrino> any other?
[14:03] <pbx> TauNeutrino - give context. who are you pitching?
[14:03] <ObrienDave> ok, how about you can do 98% of anything windows can do for FREE
[14:03] <TauNeutrino> pitching???
[14:04] <Danato> can i get some help on installing kde on my ubuntu?
[14:04] <TauNeutrino> Not sure what that means
[14:04]  * A_J_ looks for ActionParsnip
[14:04] <pbx> TauNeutrino - who are you trying to convince of ubuntu's awesomeness and why
[14:04] <Danato> i havent been very lucky with this channel lately
[14:05] <pbx> Danato - be more specific.  what did you try, what did you expect to happen, and what happened instead?
[14:05] <k1l_> Danato: install kubuntudesktop
[14:05] <k1l_> Danato: kubuntu-desktop
[14:06] <TauNeutrino> no wait, the presentation was good, but it was a bit slow(which was due to my poor laptop) and he said: What about useing windows? And I said "Good idead" just out of nervousity and stuff. And I hate that I said this. Ubuntu sometimes pisses me off, but I'm used to it, and sometimes I forget why I like it, sry for wall of text
[14:06] <gyre007> how can I create bridge on start ? I have the following in my /etc/network/interfaces but its not doing the job: https://gist.github.com/milosgajdos83/7354992
[14:06] <Danato> pbx: i installed kde-full which i thought it would include the desktop and it ddnt, so i installed kubuntu-desktop and still nothing
[14:06] <TauNeutrino> And not use windows where most stuff works out of the box
[14:06] <k1l_> Danato: now what? did you choose kubuntu on the login screen?
[14:07] <bool> someone willing to help me test something?
[14:07] <RandomTghts> hey can anyone help me install an nvidia driver
[14:07] <pbx> bool - don't ask to ask, just fire away with the details
[14:07] <Danato> k1l_: i ddnt check, give me a minute
[14:08] <bool> I want to see if my taskbar icon is as it should, I need a volunteer to send me some messages
[14:08] <bool> is flashing*
[14:09] <pizzasauce> how does alt+f2 launch applications? does it do it using symbolic links?
[14:10] <pbx> TauNeutrino - well, there's this.  top ten most destructive computer viruses (all windows based): http://goo.gl/bpC5Uc
[14:11] <geirha> pizzasauce: What do you mean?
[14:14] <pizzasauce> geirha: I need to launch chromium-browser with flags, so I created a global alias and modified chromium-browser.desktop. But the alt+f2 run application function just launches chromium-browser without flags. How does it do that? Global alias seems have no effect on run application.
[14:15] <geirha> pizzasauce: alias as in a bash alias? those only work in interactive bash shells. the alt+f2 run dialog wouldn't know about it
[14:15] <geirha> pizzasauce: It'll just search PATH for the command you try to run, and run it if it finds it
[14:16] <Danato> k1l_: thanks for the heads up, I was stupid for thinking about that
[14:17] <pizzasauce> geirha: is it possible to add global flags to chromimu-browser? I tried using the default file, but it didn't work.
[14:18] <geirha> pizzasauce: default file? if you want to run it via Alt+F2, you'll need a wrapper script. If you want to run it via a launcher, you just eidt chromium-browser.desktop
[14:19] <pizzasauce> geirha: chromium-browser has a default file in /etc/chromium-browser/ that let you add flags. but it didn't work for me.
[14:19] <jbwiv> guys, the time utility on 13.04 seems wonky. While the man page says options should come before the actual command you're typing, time refuses to recognize options and instead thinks they're the command you're trying to time. "$ time --help" yields "--help: command not found". Any ideas why this is or is it a bug I should report?
[14:20] <rigo88> hi. can you tell me what causes this at shutdown? https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/p240x240/1388128_10202155266062468_690962583_n.jpg?oh=c7bd8ad1ec5710409d2ac9742254d4f6&oe=527D91AF&__gda__=1383997930_9ca5d7ec1b697eef57e5a2892b68aada
[14:21] <cristian_c> Hi
[14:21] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[14:21] <OerHeks> rigo88, heat probably
[14:22] <rigo88> it comes only at this shutdown picture. and if i change to the "console" you know ctrl+alt+F1-F6
[14:23] <OerHeks> rigo88, those lines ?
[14:23] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[14:23] <rigo88> yop
[14:24] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[14:24] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[14:24] <OerHeks> rigo88, those lines could poit at a heat problem, or a bad videochip
[14:24] <OerHeks> c/point
[14:24] <royale1233> I'm switching to gnome shell. Unity is so buggy. Leaks memory all over the place.
[14:24] <rigo88> it cant in this case. what else can it be?
[14:25] <royale1233> Right now it's slower than win8!!!
[14:25] <usr13> royale1233: How about xfce?
[14:25] <den> asfdewdggfds
[14:25] <den> dsafdsf
[14:25] <lel> moin
[14:25] <usr13> royale1233: I doubt that.
[14:25] <edsffdsggfd> dsfgfdsg
[14:25] <rigo88> so it is definitely not heat or bad chip.
[14:25] <LjL> edsffdsggfd: please, don't flood
[14:25] <denpolsengmam> lel you little mutherfucker
[14:25] <LjL> !ops | denpolsengmam
[14:25] <lel> gz
[14:25] <denpolsengmam> i fucked your daughtetr
[14:26] <rigo88> any idea? or should i tell why it cant be heat/bad chip?
[14:26] <dem> hgfdshgfd
[14:26] <royale1233> usr13: Lemme try gnome shell first. usr13 , it is, compiz is taking up 75% of my ram.
[14:26] <yeehi> how do i launch the libre office database, Base? I put base in the dash and nothing appears...
[14:26] <dempolsengmam> FUCK YOU KUBUNTU MINT IS TJHE BEST
[14:26] <lel> MINT 4 ever
[14:27] <lel> fuck kubuntu fanboys !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:27] <rigo88> gosh what is going on here? :)
[14:27] <usr13> royale1233: You are taking up 75% or how much RAM for what?
[14:27] <royale1233> I have to reboot every 30 min.
[14:27] <usr13> royale1233: Do you understand memory mangement?
[14:27] <royale1233> 1.5GB for unity+ compiz!!!
[14:28] <usr13> royale1233: I think you have made some assumptions that are not accurate.
[14:28] <Lockzi> Could someone simply explain the meaning of .directories? Commonly found in ~?
[14:28] <royale1233> System freezes. Only way out is a hard reboot.
[14:28] <yeehi> Ah, Base isn't installed by default with a Libre-Office download. It can be installed from the software repositories...
[14:28] <Lockzi> I am reffering to .ssh .dropbox .subversion etc
[14:28] <usr13> Lockzi: file .directories  #See for yourself
[14:29] <usr13> royale1233: memtest
[14:29] <usr13> royale1233: (Test your RAM.)
[14:29] <Lockzi> usr13: What do you mean?
[14:29] <rigo88> so no chip/heat. then what?
[14:29] <OerHeks> Lockzi, those folders with a . usually have config files in it, and stuff you don't need to see
[14:29] <usr13> Lockzi: In a terminal, type   "file .directories"
[14:29] <Pici> Lockzi: Any file starting with a . are hidden from view when using the default ls flags.
[14:30] <usr13> Lockzi: ... and hit enter.
[14:30] <royale1233> usr13: My ram is fine. memtest too. Like I said, windows works fine. I'm pretty sure that it's due to unity failng to free up some buffers in compiz.
[14:30] <minimec> Lockzi: This are the folders with all the configurations of your personal session.
[14:30] <Lockzi> Ah! so the dot prefix hides it
[14:30] <tester> anyone helping me with sed command
[14:30] <tester> ?
[14:30] <Lockzi> I always use bash alias ls="ls -lah" so I always see those folders :)
[14:31] <Lockzi> Cheers guys
[14:31] <usr13> Lockzi: known_hosts and authorized_keys and other such useful files are kept in .ssh/
[14:31] <royale1233> Lockzi: they are usually used for storing config. More like user/appdata folders in windows.
[14:32] <Lockzi> Another question, in Ubuntu 13.04 when does the /tmp/ directory get cleaned?
[14:32] <usr13> Lockzi: The a swich will cause you to view hidden files and directories.
[14:32] <Lockzi> usr13: Yea, I know. That's why I have that bash alias. I just never realised that's what the dot prefix did... Hide the folder/files because of that alias :)
[14:33] <patb> Lockzi, as far as I know in all Debians, /tmp is cleared on reboot, and /var/tmp is NOT cleared on reboot
[14:33] <usr13> Lockzi: Yea, ditch the  a  switch and you won't be bothered by hidden directories.
[14:33] <Lockzi> patb: Isn't it the other way around?
[14:34] <Lockzi> Do all users have write permissions to /var/tmp? I need rTorrent to create a .sock file... And user level does not have access to /var/run
[14:34] <patb> I'm pretty sure......my /tmp is almost empty after a reboot (except on my Centos machines)
[14:35] <usr13> Lockzi: ls is your friend.  (Try the l  switch.)
[14:35] <pizzasauce> how do I remove applications from the alt+f2 run application program?
[14:35] <patb> /var/tmp is drwxrwxrwt on the Ubuntus I just checked (both 13.040
[14:35] <usr13> pizzasauce: You don't.
[14:35] <usr13> pizzasauce: ... and why would you?
[14:36] <Lockzi> patb: So is /var/tmp a good place for rTorrent to store the .socket?
[14:36] <patb> Lockzi, I usually create a subdirectory under /var/lib and put the socket in there....for example /var/lib/myTorrent
[14:37] <patb> Lockzi, and you'll need to widen the permissions on THAT folder
[14:37] <pizzasauce> usr13: well, I need to set it up so that chromium-browser goes through a proxy server. But alt+f2 just launches chromium-browser via PATH, i.e., I can't set the proxy flag.
[14:37] <Lockzi> patb: What octal permission would be suitable?
[14:37] <Lockzi> And should it be owned by root or the specific user?
[14:38] <patb> chmod 777 /var/lib/myTorrentFolder
[14:38] <Lockzi> I am having issues with that rTorrent is not able to create sockets - hence the question
[14:38] <patb> Lockzi, the folder that holds the socket needs to have rwx permissions, so that rTorrent can create the socket
[14:39] <Lockzi> patb: Yea, I gave it 777 :)
[14:39] <patb> Lockzi, if you can't get a /var/lib/myTorrent folder to work, go ahead with /var/tmp.....at least we KNOW that will work
[14:39] <usr13> pizzasauce: Alt-F2 by default will launch any application with any switches you desire.  (You type it in.)
[14:39]  * creek sits back, plays the banjo and read peoples problems..
[14:40] <Lockzi> So, I have created a user rtorrent. Can I just do mkdir /home/rtorrent to create the home folder for that user or would that mess it up?
[14:40] <tester> any shell experts here, who could help me?
[14:40] <usr13> tester: no
[14:41] <usr13> tester: ... just teasing.  Ask your question, (don't ask to ask).
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[14:41] <patb> Lockzi, that should work; but if you created the user "rtorrent" using the Ubuntu gui, the /home/rtorrent directory probably exists already
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> What's the name of ubuntu chat??
[14:41] <tester> hi usr13
[14:41] <pizzasauce> usr13: yes, but the proxy server can be bypassed if you just type in without the flags, and this is not what I want.
[14:41] <TauNeutrino> chat channel
[14:41] <tester> i want to use sed command with variable in it
[14:41] <Lockzi> patb: I am using Ubuntu Server. I don't have x
[14:42] <Pici> TauNeutrino: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <TauNeutrino> thx
[14:42] <usr13> pizzasauce: What type of proxy are you using?
[14:42] <pizzasauce> usr13: privoxy
[14:42] <patb> Lockzi, ok, then make sure you "chown rtorrent:rtorrent /home/rtorrent"
[14:43] <whoever> hi all
[14:43] <usr13> pizzasauce: (We can not give you any specific advise unless you give us specific information about your network.)
[14:43] <usr13> pizzasauce: Using Alt-F2 is no different that doing it from a terminal.
[14:44] <pizzasauce> usr13: there is no network. the privoxy proxy server is installed on the same computer. the chromium-browser flag is --proxy-server=localhost:8118.
[14:44] <zhiyue> 呵呵
[14:44] <usr13> pizzasauce: Then that is what you would type into the run command.
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: ...or you can create an alias for chromium
[14:45] <Guest29697> i have dual monitors and i have firefox with a youtube video playing on one monitor, but when i click on my second screen the video exits full screen, how can i prevnt that so that i can watch the video in full screen while working on the other screen
[14:45] <TauNeutrino> chromium O_o
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: (or what ever browser you want to use)
[14:45] <usr13> pizzasauce: But not sure why you don't just use Firefox.
[14:46] <pizzasauce> usr13: yes, aliase works but only if you launch the browser in bash. The problem is if you try to launch it through alt+f2.
[14:47] <pizzasauce> usr13: if you try to launch through alt+f2, then alias is not used.
[14:47] <pbx> pizzasauce - write a wrapper script, as was suggested above.
[14:47] <pizzasauce> usr13: the application launches directly from PATH.
[14:48] <usr13> pizzasauce: then just apend  --proxy-server=localhost:8118
[14:48] <pizzasauce> pbx: how do i write a wrapper script for alt+f2?
[14:48] <limgeo13> hello everyone! i run sudo apt-get remove build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 and my entire apps and docs are gone. linux unbootable and files not present through livecd! any ideas for backup?
[14:49] <pbx> pizzasauce - "wrapper script" means that it is a script that runs chromium, but with your preferred flags. then launch that wrapper scipt with alt-f2
[14:49] <pizzasauce> usr13: append to a file, or just type it in the alt+f2 box?
[14:49] <usr13> pizzasauce: Just type it in
[14:50] <pizzasauce> pbx: how do i set it up so that alt+f2 would launch my script instead of the chromium-browser application?
[14:50] <pbx> pizzasauce - give your script its own, unique name
[14:50] <pbx> like 'pizzachromium' or whatever
[14:51] <pizzasauce> usr13: can't just type in - the user can just don't type the flag to bypass the proxy.
[14:51] <pizzasauce> pbx: yes, but if the user type chromimu-browser in the alt+f2 box, then would it just launch the browser w/o going through the proxy?
[14:51] <pbx> pizzasauce - wait, you're doing this to try to enforce a policy on the machine, not just as a conventience for yourself? that's a different question.
[14:52] <pizzasauce> pbx: yes, enforce policy.
[14:53] <pbx> pizzasauce - well, start with that question. that's a lot more challenging. no other browsers installed on the system? user doesn't have privileges to install software? etc.
[14:54] <pizzasauce> pbx: right. no other browsers, and users' privileges are restricted.
[14:55] <pbx> pizzasauce - i can't think of a way to lock chromium to a particular set of options short of making your own custom binary. others may have better imagination on this point.
[14:56] <limgeo13> hello everyone! i run sudo apt-get remove build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++6 and my entire apps and docs are gone. linux unbootable and files not present through livecd! any ideas for backup?
[14:57] <pizzasauce> pbx: yeah, I was hoping that I don't need to compile my own copy.
[14:57] <pizzasauce> pbx: is it possible to remove the alt+f2 functionality entirely?
[15:00] <pbx> pizzasauce - don't know. but if the security concern is significant you should also think through what other ways they have of launching apps. e.g. terminal
[15:01] <usr13> limgeo13: Why were you removing those packages?  (Were you following some instructions for some particular goal?)
[15:01] <pizzasauce> pbx: i can use a global alias to cover the terminal. I also modified the desktop file. the only issue remaining is alt+f2
[15:02] <pbx> pizzasauce - i've got no more ideas, sorry
[15:02] <limgeo13_> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1316
[15:02] <limgeo13_> sorry restarted didnt get your nick!
[15:03] <usr13> limgeo13_: Are you using mint?
[15:03] <rgupta> Hi, I am working on ubuntu 13.04. I have an app which is crashing but core dump is not being generated. Can someone help?
[15:03] <limgeo13_> usr13:yes
[15:03] <svector> what is the definitive solution for Ubuntu 13 booting into black screen?
[15:04] <svector> work if boot is resumed from recovery mode..
[15:04] <parapan> Hi fellows > I try to run an update from a PPA - opened Update manager but I cannot select the files I want to upgrade ....is there a work around this ?
[15:05] <philinux> svector: which graphics card. make and model
[15:05] <usr13> limgeo13_: Try  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[15:05] <usr13> limgeo13_: (They will be able to give you better advice for your particular system.)
[15:06] <limgeo13_> thanks! this forum was the only one having sth relevant to my issue
[15:06] <usr13> limgeo13_: What is "sth"?
[15:06] <usr13> !nomodeset | svector
[15:07] <limgeo13_> something :)
[15:07] <TauNeutrino> somthing I guess
[15:07] <usr13> limgeo13_: (This is not a form, it is an IRC channel.)
[15:07] <TauNeutrino> something
[15:07] <TauNeutrino> lol
[15:08] <svector> philinux, Driver: VESA: Intel®Sandybridge Mobile Graphics.
[15:08] <s_faraday> hi all
[15:08] <rgupta> Hi, I am working on ubuntu 13.04. I have an app which is crashing but core dump is not being generated. Can someone please help?
[15:08] <svector> usr13, !nomodeset? can you clarify?
[15:08] <s_faraday> making a packages got these 2 errors to me:
[15:08] <usr13> limgeo13_: Maybe I'm not understanding what you are trying to say. You might rephrase it and try again.
[15:08] <s_faraday> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[15:08] <s_faraday> make[2]: *** [plugin/collisionperceptor/collisionperceptor.so.0.0.0] Error 1
[15:08] <s_faraday> make[1]: *** [plugin/collisionperceptor/CMakeFiles/collisionperceptor.dir/all] Error 2
[15:08] <limgeo13_> usr13: its been too long since i last used irc :) sorry for this
[15:08] <s_faraday> make: *** [all] Error 2
[15:08] <usr13> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[15:08] <pbx> rgupta - share the full details. what app, what version? anything in the logs?
[15:09] <usr13> svector: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[15:09] <svector> usr13, looking into it.. thanks
[15:10] <usr13> limgeo13_: Ok.  Go to  #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org  #They will be able to give you better advice for your system.
[15:10] <philinux> svector: run this and pastebinit lspci | grep VGA
[15:11] <ng0n> uggg
[15:11] <svector> philinux, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:11] <svector> philinux, it's a one liner
[15:11] <rgupta> pbx, its a program running in the background on a server which i monitor .. the developer can't put logs as it slows down the system. so we want to check out the stack when it crashes but core dump itself is not generating
[15:12] <limgeo13_> usr13: thanks again
[15:12] <usr13> limgeo13_: NP
[15:12] <philinux> svector: check this out and specifically post #5. Looks like a royal pain.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1966454
[15:13] <ix__> I made an usb with ubuntu 13.10 using dd and it doesn't boot, debian boots fine with the same method
[15:13] <limgeo13_> usr13: hahahahahahaaa you are so right!!!
[15:13] <pbx> rgupta - honestly, i'd say if you have a developer claiming that logging will slow things down, either you have a very extreme use-case or a developer who isn't basing opinions on evidence. in any case, there are the usual system logs that may hold a clue. have you looked?
[15:14] <usr13> limgeo13_: :)
[15:15] <reggie_> hey folks
[15:15] <ix__> any ideas why ubuntu doesn't boot off the live usb, when debian does?
[15:15] <reggie_> I am having issues with touchpad, using a ubuntu derivative (Deepin) can anyone help?
[15:16] <ObrienDave> ix__, have you tried unetbootin?
[15:16] <rgupta> pbx, can you give me a direction pls .. what do you mean by usual system logs?
[15:16] <olf-folks> unetbootin is the best
[15:16] <philinux> ix__: try unetbootin. Maybe it's not installing the bootloader properly
[15:16] <TauNeutrino> nope
[15:16] <TauNeutrino> use dd
[15:17] <TauNeutrino> not sure what the command was
[15:17] <ix__> ObrienDave, ok, I'm going to try that... although I don't know what's wrong with dd
[15:17] <philinux> TauNeutrino: much prefer a gui method
[15:17] <TauNeutrino> it's gui
[15:17] <TauNeutrino> command line :)
[15:17] <ObrienDave> lol
[15:17] <TauNeutrino> hehe
[15:17] <pbx> rgupta - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[15:17] <philinux> lol
[15:17] <ALLct> Hello. How to always use the same ip for a specific site, e.g google.com => 74.125.174.32 ?
[15:18] <TauNeutrino> that would create a blackhole
[15:18] <usr13> ALLct: What?
[15:18] <olf-folks> ix__: if its an iso for a cd/dvd then it may not boot but unetbootin uses its own bootloader thingy to start the install
[15:18] <rgupta> pbx, thanks i will look through
[15:18] <kulhas> hi afther update my ubuntu to the last version my unity app search bar stop to work properly... what can I do ?
[15:18] <pbx> ALLct - custom hosts.txt
[15:18] <ix__> olf-folks, ok, thank you
[15:18] <ObrienDave> ALLct, that is done by your ISP. static IP address
[15:19] <TauNeutrino> unity app search bar? you mean the dash thing?
[15:19] <ALLct> usr13:  yes, google has lot of other ip, but I want to use only one.
[15:19] <ALLct> pbx, could you develop, please.
[15:19] <philinux> kulhas: try a unity reset. http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[15:19] <pbx> kulhas - give more specifics. updated from what version to what version? specifically how did its behavior change? what have you tried?
[15:19] <pbx> ALLct - no
[15:19] <usr13> ALLct: Just put it in the address bar
[15:20] <usr13> ALLct: ... and hit enter.
[15:20] <Mr_Quist> pbx, hosts.txt?
[15:20] <Mr_Quist> you on windows brother?
[15:20] <Mr_Quist> ALLct, -> you should edit /etc/hosts
[15:20] <Mr_Quist> add the hostname / IP you want there
[15:20] <ALLct> usr13, I don't want to use this way
[15:20] <pbx> Mr_Quist - no, but i misspoke.  ALLct , listen to Mr_Quist :)
[15:21] <Mr_Quist> :)
[15:21] <usr13> ALLct: Well, I guess you can edit /etc/hosts
[15:21] <rgupta> pbx, though can you tell if my hunch is correct. After a bit of surfing, i found that /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern determines what happens when a system crashes. In my case it is piping to apprt, which gives the following error. ERROR: apport (pid 7262) Fri Nov  1 21:01:42 2013: executable does not belong to a package, ignoring
[15:21] <usr13> ALLct: 74.125.174.37  google.com
[15:21] <rgupta> pbx, can this be the issue?
[15:22] <pbx> rgupta - dunno, you're beyond my expertise
[15:22] <s_faraday> what dose it mean guys? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ltbb
[15:22] <rgupta> pbx, no worries. at least you tried. thanks
[15:22] <usr13> ALLct: Or what ever it was, (I may have typed in the wong IP).
[15:23] <usr13> ALLct: In other words, just put an entry in your /etc/hosts file for it.
[15:23] <pbx> s_faraday - what command produced that error?
[15:23] <s_faraday> pbx: make a package
[15:23] <usr13> s_faraday: make ?
[15:23] <usr13> s_faraday: (make a package is not a command)
[15:23] <s_faraday> usr13: yes
[15:24] <pbx> s_faraday - share the actual command you executed that generated the error.
[15:24] <usr13> s_faraday: He would need to see the make file.
[15:24] <s_faraday> make
[15:24] <ALLct> usr13: thanks.
[15:24] <s_faraday> just "make" I mean
[15:24] <usr13> s_faraday: Or what you are compiling.
[15:24] <usr13> ALLct: NP
[15:25] <pbx> s_faraday - right, but that's executing commands from a makefile. sounds like it may be broken  or not buildable on your system.
[15:25] <s_faraday> usr13: a source named "simspark"
[15:25] <usr13> s_faraday: simspark is not in repos?
[15:26] <s_faraday> usr13: no it isn't but I add it's repo
[15:26] <s_faraday> http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Installation_on_Linux#Ubuntu
[15:26] <s_faraday> try to do those commands on ubuntu 12.10
[15:28] <usr13> s_faraday: What does   pwd   say?
[15:28] <s_faraday> usr13: hmm, what do u mean?
[15:29] <s_faraday> oh
[15:29] <s_faraday> usr13: /home/quantal/simpark/trunk/spark/build
[15:31] <usr13> s_faraday: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14057737/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lgl-nvidia-lubuntu-12-10
[15:32] <s_faraday> usr13: I don't have nvidia
[15:32] <usr13> O
[15:32] <s_faraday> my graphic card is onboard
[15:32] <ix__> didn't work with unetbootin either
[15:33] <ObrienDave> ix__, did you check the DL with MD5?
[15:33] <ix__> ObrienDave, of course I did
[15:33] <usr13> s_faraday: Did you install the dependencies?
[15:34] <s_faraday> usr13: some of them that mentiond on that wiki for simspark
[15:34] <ObrienDave> ix__, what size USB stick are you using?
[15:35] <ix__> ObrienDave, 4GB
[15:35] <usr13> s_faraday: Did you do:  cmake ..    ?
[15:35] <thnee> when I click "Connect" for the selected wifi SSID, nothing happens.. iwconfig says Access Point: Not-Associated
[15:35] <s_faraday> usr13: yes
[15:35] <thnee> how is Wifi supposed to work in ubuntu?
[15:36] <ix__> ObrienDave, the odd thing is, I had the same problem with Lubuntu, but somehow I managed to boot it, but couldn't reproduce the feat :)
[15:36] <s_faraday> usr13: and "make" got 2 errors
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> ix__: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:37] <usr13> s_faraday: Go back and see that you preformed all the steps prior to the one you are on now.
[15:37] <ix__> ActionParsnip, yeah, I did
[15:37] <ObrienDave> ix__, lots of people have had a similar problem with 13.10 and USB sticks. I don't get it
[15:37] <john_doe_jr> I need to find a string in a file using the find command but search for this string recursively …how would I write that command?
[15:38] <usr13> john_doe_jr: Try grep
[15:40] <usr13> john_doe_jr: grep <string> *
[15:40] <WhatElse> hi guys
[15:40] <usr13> john_doe_jr: Or:     grep <string> file-name
[15:40] <WhatElse> I've installed ubuntu 13.10 x64, but it freezes after startup (just 2 or 3 secs after unity has started) how can i get what's the problem?
[15:41] <john_doe_jr> usr13: so…grep -r "string" . ?
[15:41] <usr13> john_doe_jr: Or:     grep <string> *.txt
[15:41] <threex5> Hi, I just got a convertible notebook with an HD display. I'm running 12.04 and everything is teeny tiny. Is there a tweak or a special session or something I can use to enlarge applications and web pages?
[15:42] <usr13> john_doe_jr: I cant give you any more specific advise than I already have, (unless I know what files you have and what you are looking for).
[15:42] <john_doe_jr> usr13: well thanks for your help!
[15:43] <usr13> john_doe_jr: But yes, -r is the switch for recursive.  -r or -R or -recursive
[15:43] <s_faraday> usr13: pls have a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6376926/
[15:43] <s_faraday> am I missing something?
[15:44] <s_faraday> it was cmake output
[15:45] <usr13> s_faraday: cmake ..   Not cmake ../
[15:45] <s_faraday> usr13: cmake ../
[15:47] <TauNeutrino> make cake !
[15:48] <rooted> hello , ive updated to saucy,  and a package didnot installed [forbidden] then ive updated without completing the package, after that the Xorg crashed , then reinstalled lightdm , now it works, but cant update software center error : cannot update from 'saucy' to 'raring', other problem cant access audio menu ontop. any help ?
[15:48] <minimec> threex5: You can change the DPI settings with xrandr, like 'xrandr --dpi 160' --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/281941/ubuntu-resolution-with-ultrabook
[15:49] <minimec> threex5: Or you can change resolution in the xrandr GUI...
[15:49] <threex5> minimec, thanks for the tip. I will check it out now
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> rooted: what version did you upgraqe from?
[15:49] <usr13> s_faraday: Check to see that your system is fully updated
[15:49] <rooted> 12.03
[15:49] <acecabana> anyone know if there has been a reliable fix yet for the issue where on awaking a user no longer can use wifi
[15:49] <rooted> i guess
[15:50] <rooted> now 13.10
[15:50] <UrielVigilant> graphic test!
[15:50] <UrielVigilant> graphic-test!
[15:51] <threex5> minimec, i installed arandr but it's barely useable. is this the gui you were thinking of?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> rooted: did you upgrade to 12.10 and 13.04 in between?
[15:51] <s_faraday> usr13: no it isn't, but i'm in ubuntu 12.10
[15:51] <rooted> no.
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> rooted: then thats why you are getting issues
[15:51] <rooted> them 13.04 to 13.10
[15:51] <s_faraday> usr13: there is not about version ? just being up to date?
[15:51] <jcromartie> I'm trying to compile a C program that uses math.h
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> rooted: you have to upgrade to the next release in turn. The only time you can leapfrog is when you upgrade LTS to LTS
[15:52] <jcromartie> gcc -Wall -lm whetstone.c -o whetstone
[15:52] <usr13> rooted: cat /etc/issue
[15:52] <rooted> ActionParsnip , what the solution , ive got this crash because didnt do the complete upgrade (because some DEB are forbidden to access)
[15:52] <minimec> threex5: xrandr should be installed. If you don't use a restricted driver, the xrandr GUI is the >Display option in the >Settings
[15:52] <jcromartie> it reports "undefined reference to `sin'" etc. in the linker stage
[15:52] <jcromartie> why?
[15:52] <usr13> rooted: (What does it say?)
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> rooted: possibly a PPA not supporting saucy
[15:52] <UrielVigilant> wich is the best graphic app to compare ubuntu 13.10 in usb persistent and xorg and ubuntu full install with standard drivers in same laptop with intel gma 950
[15:52] <jcromartie> I have libc6 installed
[15:52] <jcromartie> and the math.h headers are there
[15:53] <UrielVigilant> wich is the best becnhmark graphic app to compare ubuntu 13.10 in usb persistent and xorg and ubuntu full install with standard drivers in same laptop with intel gma 950
[15:53] <rooted> ActionPatsnip  , tried to avoid this crash by installing gdm (didnot work) && x-swat (didnot too) , then i reinstalled lightdm
[15:53] <threex5> minimec, i see. this only lets me change resolution, though -- not dpi
[15:53] <rooted> usr13 Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[15:54] <auronandace> UrielVigilant: live or installed it doesn't matter, they use the same drivers
[15:54] <usr13> rooted: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:54] <gvo> jcromartie: Move the -lm to the end o the command.
[15:54] <rooted> but ive noticed something , when i force startx it hangs alot , but when i installed gdm it became alot faster.
[15:54] <UrielVigilant> auronandace: but in live i installed xorg and in full install don´t .
[15:54] <minimec> threex5: That's where you could try the 'xrandr --dpi SOMETHING', as describrd in the 2nd askubuntu answer...
[15:55] <usr13> rooted: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:55] <rooted> usr13 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 258 not upgraded.
[15:55] <threex5> minimec, it looks from askubuntu that this: xrandr --output LVDS --scale 0.75x0.75 would yield the most consistent results
[15:55] <usr13> rooted: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:55] <UrielVigilant> Auronandace: i want a compare the results of using xorg instead normal full install drivers
[15:55] <rooted> usr13 nothing happened
[15:56] <usr13> rooted: sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:56] <minimec> threex5: I agree...
[15:56] <rooted> ActionParsnip , i cant wait for the other release because i think my software updater still raring..
[15:56] <rooted> for some reasnion
[15:56] <rooted> usr13 did that too
[15:56] <usr13> rooted: And then:  sudo apt-get clean   and then   sudo apt-get install -f
[15:56] <rooted> and reupdare/ upgrade
[15:57] <UrielVigilant> Auronandace: PLaying Onlive on playonlinux, in Rally game seems to show more detailed graphic, nut iam not sure , using xorg .
[15:57] <rooted> usr13 same thing 0 updates
[15:57] <xero73> I'm having issues installing my nvidia drivers and setting up dual monitors. I was given drivers not supported by my card by ubuntu then froze at a purple screen when attempting a different driver
[15:58] <rooted> my problem is 'software updater' cant update
[15:58] <rooted> says cant update from sauct to raring..
[15:58] <usr13> rooted: tail -1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades   #What does it say?
[15:58] <auronandace> UrielVigilant: i don't know how to say this any other way but: they use the same drivers
[15:58] <rooted> saucy*
[15:58] <threex5> minimec, this command didnt work
[15:59] <threex5> it just changed the resolution and made everything fuzzy
[15:59] <rooted> prompt normal
[15:59] <threex5> i'm trying to keep my native resolution and just make the interfact bigger (bigger fonts, icons, and scaled web pages)
[15:59] <minimec> threex5: Look for ubuntu users on newer Macs or MS Surface PRO. Those do have a similar problem, as these machines have very high resolutions.
[16:00] <threex5> minimec, ok thanks. how can i quicky undo this last command?
[16:00] <rooted> usr13 prompt=normal
[16:00] <usr13> rooted: So you were supposed to have upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10?
[16:00] <philinux> rooted: try this. post back any erros sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:00] <SkyCaptain> hello chan, I just duplicated my /home partition and am trying to get my bash behaviour back in working order. All of a sudden, inputrc is not allowing CTRL+Left/Right to move between words, then when trying to fix it, I disabled the enter key on terminals, not sure how
[16:00] <threex5> xrandr --output eDP1 --scale 1x1 ?
[16:00] <threex5> i guess i could try it
[16:00] <rooted> yes, now its 13.10 , but i think there is alot of crashes ive fixed and some uninstalled packeges
[16:01] <minimec> threex5: If it was not working, you don't care. If it did something, just reboot.
[16:01] <usr13> rooted: ActionParsnip is more-than-likely correct.  You need to get rid of some ppa
[16:01] <usr13> rooted: or ppa(s)
[16:01] <threex5> minimec, rebooting will undo it? ok
[16:01] <threex5> thanks
[16:01] <rooted> philinux , in shell the only error i get , is x-swat 404 , but in gui , its says cant upgrade from saucy to raring
[16:01] <minimec> threex5: in this case yes
[16:01] <UrielVigilant> Auronandace: but in live usb ubuntu 13.10 i did this comman : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y               , so what changes ?
[16:02] <rooted> means cant update from 13.10 to 13.04 witch is weird
[16:02] <usr13> rooted: As ActionParsnip suggests, ppa(s) can cause problems when doing a version upgrade.
[16:03] <rooted> philinux Err http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main i386 Packages
[16:03] <rooted>   404  Not Found
[16:03] <usr13> rooted: You may have to leave some packages behind.  (Uninstall them and ditch the ppa(s)
[16:03] <rooted> usr13 , ok do you suggest to remove x-swat ppa ?
[16:03] <philinux> rooted: disable all ppa's in your sources.list
[16:03] <auronandace> UrielVigilant: so you are using a ppa with a more recent version of xorg (hence more recent drivers)
[16:04] <philinux> rooted: just untick them
[16:04] <rooted> hmmm
[16:04] <rooted> but the problem happened before installing the ppa
[16:04] <usr13> rooted: As philinux suggests, dissable all ppa(s)
[16:04] <rooted> because the Xorg crashed
[16:05] <rooted> because the distro update had some files forbiden to access
[16:05] <UrielVigilant> Auronandace: and now i want to compare the 2 modes with and with out it .
[16:05] <rooted> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[16:05] <rooted> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:05] <pngl> I can't boot my Ubuntu VM anymore since I resized the .vdi disk, and the partition using Gparted. I get a black screen with a cross-shaped cursor.
[16:05] <minimec> threex5: Did you check how you output is called. Mine would be 'LVDS1', not 'LVDS'. You can check that with 'xrandr' in a terminal
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> rooted: as you leapfrogger release(s), i would reinstall with either Precise or Saucy then upgrade to Trusty in April
[16:05] <philinux> rooted: with ppa's disabled then first sudo apt-get install -f then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:05] <usr13> rooted: What did   sudo dpkg --configure -a    do?
[16:06] <rooted> usr13 nothing actually , no outputs
[16:06] <threex5> minimec, mine is called eDP1. The command worked --- it just didn't do what I wanted it to. It gave me that fuzzy non-native resolution, like if i just changed the res in Settings > Display
[16:06] <philinux> rooted: thats good then
[16:06] <jcromartie> gvo: thanks, but why?
[16:06] <usr13> rooted: Yes, as philinux suggests, do  apt-get update and  apt-get install -f  after disabling ppa(s)
[16:06] <pngl> What does a cross-shaped cursor usually mean?
[16:07] <isasha> Hiya, I'm having a tad of an issue with my OS X sleep after installing Ubuntu on my macbook.
[16:07] <minimec> threex5: Ok, I see.
[16:07] <isasha> Sleep works fine, but if it sleeps for more than a couple of hours on battery, it goes into hibernation.
[16:07] <isasha> After escaping hibernation, it looks like it boots into 'Low graphics memory mode' on Ubuntu, you can barely see it because the backlight doesn't turn on.
[16:07] <isasha> Any ideas?
[16:07] <rooted> cool , but i dont understand what does it has to do with x-swat  , the crash happened before ive added the ppa , ive installed x-swat because the graphics crashed
[16:07] <rooted> will try it now.
[16:07] <gvo> jcromartie: Because it doesn't know what you want from the math library until it sees the object code and you don't have the object code until later in the command.
[16:08] <rooted> my trying now the distro-upgrade , i think this will work
[16:08] <acecabana> along with iasha's problem,after I hibernate, I lose wifi capabilities. I don't have any of the graphics issues though.
[16:08] <gvo> jcromartie: gcc is a bit dumb.  It doesn't wrap the search for dependencies.
[16:08] <threex5> minimec, this computer runs windows 8, and when you go to ie from the start menu, web sites are the correct scale but the fonts are way smoother. the graphics are fuzzy if they're not 'retina ready' but other than that, it manages to use the HD display and have things display large
[16:08] <usr13> rooted: You need to solve one problem at a time.  Fix the upgrade problem before trying to fix GUI issues.
[16:08] <philinux> rooted: thats dist-upgrade
[16:08] <isasha> acecabana is this on a macbook?
[16:09] <rooted> gui fixed after reinstalling lightdm , GDM , X-SWAT didnt work
[16:09] <acecabana> isasha: no, dell laptop
[16:09] <xero73> I'm having issues installing my nvidia drivers and setting up dual monitors. I was given drivers not supported by my card by ubuntu then froze at a purple screen when attempting a different driver can anyone help?
[16:09] <rooted> GDM + X-SWAT didnt fix it , only the light dim fixed , it
[16:10] <rooted> and in the grub menu duplicated for selection..
[16:10] <isasha> ah but that's a bit different. my issue is cross-OS, sleeps in one, resumes into a different one
[16:10] <usr13> rooted: I don't even know what x-swat is.
[16:10] <acecabana> isasha: that's an almost funny problem
[16:11] <isasha> I know :P
[16:11] <rooted> usr13 , x-swat is a solution for some intel microproccesors(VGA) [sometimes] , the ghrapics usually crashes if you are youi nvidia , because they are sucks
[16:11] <isasha> But I'm guessing the issue is somewhere on the boot record? idk, I have deactivated hibernation in Ubuntu, and on OS X it just does it by itself after a few hours on battery
[16:11] <rooted> and there is nvidia/ati/etc ppa's for some ghrapic cards
[16:12] <xero73> I guess nobody can help...
[16:12] <acecabana> isasha: i'm sure you can disable it in OSX as well
[16:12] <rooted> i though the crash because the graphics card , after many tricks, found the lightdm has a crash
[16:12] <acecabana> isasha: but that's just a bandais
[16:12] <rooted> had
[16:12] <usr13> xero73: Did you install the wrong nvidia driver?
[16:12] <tonyt> is it possible to run os x on a pc ?
[16:13] <tonyt> natively that is . not in a vm
[16:13] <xero73> usr13: ubuntu gave me the wrong ones to install and I used terminal to install a correct one and froze
[16:13] <isasha> yeah that's the issue, if I don't use it for a few hours, I loose all my open tabs and stuff, I have to reboot it and work without internet
[16:13] <usr13> xero73: What did you install?  What is your display adapter?
[16:13] <DrMax_> I've upgraded to 13.10 and when an application is launched via a keyboard shortcut, it's not always on top
[16:13] <DrMax_> sometimes they open BEHIND other apps
[16:13] <xero73> usr13: it still shows no proprietary drivers in use
[16:13] <bean___> tonyt: thats a bit offtopic for here.
[16:13] <tonyt> k
[16:13] <DrMax_> is there a way of correcting this?
[16:13] <xero73> usr13: I had to reinstall ubuntu
[16:14] <usr13> xero73: Did you trun off the X server first?
[16:14] <tonyt> bean know of a channel that could answer that question ?
[16:14] <xero73> usr13: I don't know what that is, much less how to do it
[16:14] <rooted> xero73 , what your problem again ?
[16:14] <SkyCaptain> I think I need to reinstall readline/inputrc, but I'm not sure how without being able to hit enter on a terminal
[16:14] <acecabana> isasha: in the meantime though you can certainly disable hibernation in OSX and you can at least keep your work
[16:14] <usr13> xero73: Ok if you reinstalled ubuntu, just do it again, but first, turn off the X server.
[16:14] <xero73> rooted: issues installing my nvidia driver and setting up dual monitors
[16:15] <bean___> tonyt: can't say I do. I will answer your question though. Look up "hackintosh"
[16:15] <isasha> acecabana no work is fine, it reopens automatically, but I usually have 100+ tabs or so open and I can't always open them when I'm away from home
[16:15] <xero73> usr13: ok but right now I don't even know the correct driver, someone here gave me the command but ubuntu is still giving me the wrong ones
[16:15] <kermit> networkmanager brings up my ethernet, but then brings it back down 2 seconds later, over and over.. if i stop network manager while it's up, it stays up and works fine.. why would it do that?
[16:15] <isasha> but the bigger issue is that it does it in the first place
[16:15] <usr13> xero73: lspci
[16:15] <rooted> xerro73 , nvidia has alot of problems, there is some ppa for nvidia (NEVER DOWNLOAD DRIVERS FROM NVIDIA WEBASE)
[16:15] <acecabana> isasha: true...if you can't fix it right away you can always "System Preferences>Energy Saver. Adjust your settings. Set Computer to sleep to Never."
[16:16] <OerHeks> lspci |  grep -i VGA
[16:16] <rooted> ive read it , in xorg crash after updating to saucy you can find it in ask ubuntu
[16:16] <isasha> I'm reading that exact same page but that would just mean that it doesn't go to sleep
[16:16] <usr13> rooted: What do you mean, never download drivers from nvidia "webase"?
[16:16] <rooted> xero73 , your problem is xorg crashed ?
[16:17] <xero73> rooted: no the drivers just never install correctly and still show as no driver is in use
[16:17] <rooted> usr13 , never download the nvidia driver's from nvidia , there is touchpad nvidia resource
[16:17] <Guest87261> ubuntu is a spyware - rms, some of fsf people are insame - Linus
[16:17] <usr13> xero73: You should probably just download from nvidia website.
[16:17] <rooted> xero73 , does GUI works ?
[16:17] <usr13> rooted: Oh, it is a touchpad?
[16:17] <xero73> usr13: I tried that and the .run file crashes
[16:18] <rooted> usr13 yep,  read it yesterday on askubuntu
[16:18] <usr13> xero73: It is a touchpad?
[16:18] <xero73> rooted: which GUI?
[16:18] <xero73> usr13: no I'm on a desktop
[16:18] <rooted> xero73 lightdm , or gdm ?
[16:18] <rooted> i mean can you see your desktop ?
[16:18] <xero73> rooted: yes I can
[16:18] <usr13> xero73: Ok then, what display adapter is it?
[16:19] <usr13> xero73: lspci  #What does it say about the Nivia card?
[16:19] <rooted> xero73 , can you tell me what exactly , your problem , because my english is poor
[16:19] <rooted> english
[16:19] <xero73> usr13: it says VGA compatible controller NVIDIA Corp. G92 [ GeForce 9800GT]
[16:20] <xero73> rooted: ubuntu still shows no driver in use after installing them and it won't detect my 2nd monitor
[16:20] <rooted> xero73 , try to search on NVIDIA GEFORE9800GT PPA
[16:20] <rooted> hmmmm
[16:20] <rooted> let me check
[16:21] <OerHeks> xero that 9800 needs the 173-updates driver AFAIK
[16:21] <vanishing> xero73: is this a nvidia driver problem?
[16:21] <rooted> i remember i saw it yesterday
[16:21] <xero73> vanishing: yes it is
[16:21] <usr13> xero73: Are you 32bit or 64bit?
[16:21] <xero73> OerHeks: thanks yes that was what I was installing when it froze though and I had to reformat
[16:21] <vanishing> xero73: did you install the drive using apt-get?
[16:21] <xero73> usr13: 64-bit
[16:22] <xero73> vanishing: yes
[16:22] <Guest87261> ubuntu touch on Nokia 808?
[16:22] <rooted> xero73 http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise
[16:22] <DJones> !touch | Guest87261
[16:22] <usr13> xero73: Are you fully updated?
[16:22] <rooted> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173-updates/173.14.35-0ubuntu1/+build/3597638
[16:23] <xero73> usr13: I was previously but I'm not now after the reformat
[16:23] <xero73> vanishing: I am installing that driver now
[16:23] <usr13> xero73: Do that first.  What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[16:23] <xero73> usr13: 12.04.3 lts
[16:24] <usr13> xero73: NO,  do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade   #First
[16:24] <Ari-Yang> usr13: run lsb_rlease -a in terminal to view ubuntu version
[16:24] <xero73> usr13: doing so now
[16:25] <usr13> Ari-Yang: Good advice.  Yes.
[16:25] <vanishing> xero73: btw, you might want to do a sudo nvidia-xconfig after that
[16:25] <xero73> vanishing: sure I'll do that
[16:25] <usr13> Ari-Yang: But it's  lsb-release -a  #Spelling error.
[16:26] <usr13> Ari-Yang: lsb_release -a   #I messed up too  ;0
[16:27] <xero73> usr13: still updating..
[16:27] <usr13> vanishing: Sounds to me like he is going to do the same thing he did last time, (and expect different result).  If it were me, I'd just download from nvidia.com)
[16:27] <rooted> xero73 , did you try apt-get navidia-current-updates ?
[16:27] <xero73> rooted: no I haven't
[16:28] <rooted> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current-updates
[16:28] <xero73> usr13: the nvidia website file crashed when I used it previously
[16:28] <rooted> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-experimental-304
[16:28] <rooted> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[16:28] <usr13> xero73: Oh, ok.  But did you trun off the X server before trying to run it?
[16:29] <rooted> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:29] <xero73> rooted: yes 304 and 319 are the ones ubuntu gives and they, as I was told aren't even supported by my card
[16:29] <rooted> xero 73 , thats why you have to check askubuntu
[16:30] <vanishing> xero73: nvidia-settings:  version 331.17  (buildd@rhenium)  Sun Oct 27 00:28:28 UTC 2013
[16:30] <vanishing> :D
[16:30] <xero73> rooted: ok
[16:30] <xero73> vanishing: so I need 331.17?
[16:30] <OerHeks> nvidia-current-updates does not support that 9800, nvidia 173-updates does
[16:30] <vanishing> xero73: i'm not saying you need that, just you might want that
[16:30] <vanishing> its 331
[16:30] <Lockzi> So, I've managed to get dropbox working on Ubuntu 13.04 x64 server (no gui). The dropbox process is auto started by user admin. The Dropbox folder location is /home/admin/Dropbox. This Dropbox folder in turn has a folder called watched_folder that I use to drop .torrent files in. I am running rTorrent as a user called rtorrent (that also has a home folder). What is the best way to gain access for the user rtorrent to pull in these .torrent
[16:30] <Lockzi> files and delete afterwards?
[16:31] <xero73> I just finished updating everything..now what is it I need to try?
[16:31] <gain> wut
[16:31] <gain> ?
[16:31] <vanishing> which card do you have?
[16:31] <xero73> like 3 people helping me work on this lol...9800 gt
[16:31] <Shadowandlight> hello, im running into a version error with mysql using 12.04
[16:31] <Shadowandlight> http://privatepaste.com/d077b0f9ea
[16:32] <vanishing> xero73: hmmm..should be supported
[16:32] <xero73> vanishing: I know, it's a pretty old card.
[16:32] <vanishing> xero73: whats the problem though?
[16:32] <vanishing> sorry I was glancing here and there on my screen, missed the problem part
[16:32] <xero73> vanishing: ubuntu constantly shows no proprietarty drivers in use and won't detect my 2nd monitor
[16:33] <vanishing> xero73: lsmod | grep nvidia
[16:33] <xero73> vanishing: ok...nothing happened
[16:33] <vanishing> drivers not loaded
[16:34] <rooted> i think , distro-upgrade is working , still updating
[16:34] <xero73> vanishing: so I should use the 173-updates command or...?
[16:34] <minimec> Lockzi: Add user 'rtorrent' to group 'admin' and give group 'admin' write access to that watched_folder, or create a new group for that watched_folder, add 'admin' and 'rtorrent' to that new group and assign that new group iwth write access to that watched_folder.
[16:34] <vanishing> can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:35] <minimec> Lockzi: 2nd solution seems 'nicer' to me...
[16:35] <vanishing> xero73: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:35] <xero73> vanishing: umm.. what's the command again? I forgot after last night
[16:35] <Lockzi> minimec: What happens when a new .torrent file is added then? Does it automatically inherit the permissions?
[16:36] <vanishing> xero73: also, can you try sudo modprobe nvidia
[16:36] <vanishing> see what happens
[16:36] <xero73> vanishing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377170/
[16:36] <vanishing> xero73: do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:36] <xero73> vanishing: modprove gives an error
[16:36] <minimec> Lockzi: Good question.. I guess so. Otherwise, you could make a script or/and cron job to move the .torrent files with 'correct' permissions.
[16:36] <vanishing> your xorg.conf is not right..
[16:37] <xero73> vanishing: Fatal error inserting nvidia_304
[16:37] <Lockzi> minimec: So I did chown admin:rtorrent to the watched_folder that lies under /home/admin/Dropbox/ (the Dropbox folder is owned by admin:admin)
[16:37] <usr13> xero73: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/331.20/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.20.run
[16:38] <xero73> vanishing: I also got a validation error from xconfig
[16:38] <Lockzi> the user rtorrent can't even CD into the Dropbox folder...
[16:38] <usr13> xero73: Is that the file you downloaded before?
[16:38] <vanishing> xero73: I would recommend purge nvidia driver and reinstall it
[16:38] <MO_Handes> how to remove all files named Thumbs.db recursively?
[16:38] <xero73> vanishing: but usr13 said I have to shut down x-server first right?
[16:38] <usr13> MO_Handes: What?
[16:39] <vanishing> xero73: usr13: not sure whats his diagnose :)
[16:39] <usr13> xero73: If you use the file I linked to just now, yes you need to trun off the xserver first.
[16:40] <xero73> vanishing: so what do I do now? usr13: I just downloaded that but how do I shut down xserver
[16:40] <vanishing> xero73: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf; sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:41] <xero73> vanishing: Unable to locate/open xconfig file
[16:42] <vanishing> xero73: below that there should be another line saying new X config written
[16:42] <vanishing> right?
[16:42] <xero73> vanishing: yes
[16:42] <MO_Handes> usr13, I just want to remove all files named foo in current directory and all sub directories
[16:43] <usr13> xero73: First, do as vanishing suggests and see if the one you have now works.
[16:43] <vanishing> xero73: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:43] <vanishing> should be different now
[16:43] <usr13> MO_Handes: rm foo*
[16:43] <xero73> vanishing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377224/
[16:43] <MO_Handes> usr13, it just removes it from the current directory not subdirectories
[16:43] <usr13> MO_Handes: But you will not have any 2 files with same name.
[16:43] <xero73> usr13: the one I downloaded from you?
[16:43] <vanishing> xero73: there you go
[16:43] <vanishing> xero73: try to reboot now
[16:44] <xero73> vanishing: ok brb
[16:44] <usr13> MO_Handes: rm -r foo*
[16:44] <vanishing> xero73: original xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377170/
[16:44] <vanishing> new xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377224/
[16:44] <vanishing> :)
[16:44] <usr13> xero73: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:45] <MO_Handes> usr13, that does not do that
[16:45] <usr13> MO_Handes: Does not do what? (What is it exactly that you want to do?)
[16:46] <vanishing> usr13: he want to remove files with foo* in current and sub dirs
[16:46] <MO_Handes> usr13, it has been done by "find . -name foo -delete"
[16:46] <MO_Handes> thanks ;)
[16:46] <usr13> MO_Handes: Okeydokey
[16:46] <vanishing> xet7: workin'?
[16:46] <vanishing> xet7: wrong ping..sorry
[16:48] <rajmahendra> I have tried to upgrade my ubuntu with new version on my hp laptop. once it upgrade once i restart it says unsupported graphic, input etc going to low lever settings and then its coming to ubuntu background with rotating cursor and noting happening. anyone help me to rectify this please ?
[16:48] <julian-delphiki> lol MO_Handes, asking in ##linux to give someone an answer here.
[16:48] <julian-delphiki> or, cross posting
[16:49] <usr13> rajmahendra: lspci  #What does it say about your display adapter?
[16:49] <vanishing> xero73: workin'?
[16:49] <xero73> vanishing: wow this sucks, no I'm at 640x480 resolution
[16:49] <vanishing> xero73: lol..do a lsmod | grep nvidia
[16:49] <usr13> xero73: nvidia-settings
[16:49] <vanishing> see if nvidia driver is loaded
[16:50] <tripelb> hello. re wine? i want to run a program that comes on the disk with my xrays. it did not work under xp. (missing dot-net or something) -- how to run it?
[16:50] <xero73> vanishing: ok hang on I  gotta find my terminal lol
[16:50] <usr13> xero73: Alt-F2  gnome-terminal
[16:50] <pbx> tripelb - sounds like a long shot. i would start by finding out what version(s) of windows it *does* run on
[16:50] <Ubuntivity> Hello everyone
[16:51] <rajmahendra> usr13:  intel corporation model 4 series chipset
[16:51] <Ubuntivity> Can I define a different "rc.local" file for each entry in GRUB meua?
[16:51] <xero73> vanishing: nothing after lsmod | grep nvidia
[16:52] <vanishing> xero73: nvidia driver still not loaded....
[16:52] <tripelb> phx  8 and 7
[16:52] <zykotick9> tripelb: i'd suggest asking specific wine support questions in #winehq
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: as far as I know there is only one, you could have it perform some logic based on the output of:    uname -a    though :)
[16:52] <rajmahendra> can't i revert back the settings to get back old ubuntu ?
[16:52] <xero73> vanishing: this is just irritating lol remind me never to reformat if we get this working
[16:52] <usr13> rajmahendra: What does lspci say about it?
[16:53] <usr13> rajmahendra: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:53] <rajmahendra> usr13:  intel corporation model 4 series chipset
[16:53] <Ubuntivity> Thanks ActionParsnip, but how uname -a will determine which entry was chosen of the GRUB menu?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: it will show the kernel version which may help run the right command
[16:53] <vanishing> xero73: yep...kept my install for 2 years now..encountered numerous problem, but eventually fixed everything*
[16:53] <usr13> xero73: Did you download the file from nvidia.com?
[16:54] <vanishing> usr13: why not the driver in repo though :|
[16:54] <Ubuntivity> ActionParsnip: I might be using the same kernel, but I want to have 2 entries: one for "quiet splash" and one for "text", and I want a particular script to start in "text" mode but not "quiet splash"
[16:54] <xero73> usr13: I downloaded from the link you gave earlier
[16:54] <usr13> vanishing: I don't know.  Why not?  (Did it not work?)
[16:55] <xero73> usr13: no
[16:55] <vanishing> usr13: just...meh..i like apt-get more..lol
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: oh i see, ive seen this sort of thing but no idea how to make it happen, there is a safe mode for each kernel so you may want to poke around in grub's config to see how that extra entry is made, then add one of your own
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: the guys in #grub may be able to advise too
[16:56] <usr13> xero73: First, let's see what you've installed.   ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/   #What does the last line say?
[16:56] <vanishing> xero73: what is the output of sudo modprobe nvidia?
[16:56] <Ubuntivity> Thanks ActionParsnip. I'll check #grub and also I'll keep checking this channel too in case someone knows how it is done :)
[16:57] <xero73> usr13: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    1181 Nov  7 11:35 pastebinit.list
[16:57] <usr13> vanishing: I recommend using the package manager too, (when it works).
[16:57] <usr13> xero73: Is there nvidia anything above that?
[16:57] <zykotick9> vanishing: a note about using driver from nvidia.com -- (dpkg's "why nvidia installer sucks", modified for ubuntu by me) -- 11:54 <dpkg> nvidia-installer works fine for you today, granted.  Let's say tomorrow Xorg is updated -- the nvidia driver will break.  If you try to uninstall nvidia (nvidia-installer --uninstall), then you break Xorg badly.  nvidia-installer overwrites files at random, and has NO CONCEPT of package management.  We recomme
[16:57] <xero73> vanishing: same error as before
[16:57] <usr13> xero73: (It's good that you installed pastebinit though.
[16:57] <Ari-Yang> !fsck
[16:58] <vanishing> zykotick9: so...repo driver :)
[16:58] <vanishing> xero73: what is the output though...
[16:58] <zykotick9> vanishing: ding ding ding ;)
[16:58] <vanishing> zykotick9: thats what i said though :)
[16:58] <tripelb> zykotick9: thanks. dnk
[16:58] <xero73> usr13: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    5134 Nov  7 11:23 nvidia-173-updates.list
[16:58] <xero73> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    5059 Nov  7 11:23 nvidia-settings-304-updates.list
[16:59] <xero73> vanishing: fatal error inserting nvidia_304
[16:59] <usr13> xero73: I do not think nvidia-173 is right for your display adapter.
[16:59] <Shadowandlight> hello, im running into a version error with mysql using 12.04 - http://privatepaste.com/d077b0f9ea
[16:59] <xero73> usr13: ok
[16:59] <vanishing> xero73: seems like somehow you installed both 173 and 304..o.o
[17:00] <usr13> xero73: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list |pastebinit
[17:00] <xero73> vanishing: lol
[17:00] <usr13> xero73: And send us resulting URL.
[17:01] <bekks> Shadowandlight: So which mysql version did you install?
[17:01] <xero73> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377306/
[17:01] <bekks> Shadowandlight: And which ubuntu version do you use?
[17:01] <zykotick9> vanishing: (sidenote) using a 310+ nvidia driver would be good, if you card supports it (and i think it should).  310+ is when steam/nvidia/ubuntu started working together for better performance.
[17:02] <vanishing> zykotick9: yep..running on 331 atm, no problem so far
[17:02] <usr13> xero73: sudo apt-get remove nvidia*
[17:02] <Shadowandlight> bekks: im not sure i just ran the install
[17:02] <vanishing> purge^
[17:02] <Shadowandlight> bekks: 12.04
[17:02] <usr13> vanishing: Was that for me?
[17:03] <usr13> xero73: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[17:03] <usr13> ?
[17:03] <vanishing> i'm just saying purge might be better
[17:03] <xero73> usr13: I just ran the remove one..
[17:03] <usr13> vanishing: YOu are probably correct.
[17:03] <xero73> usr13: do I need to purge too?
[17:03] <bekks> Shadowandlight: could you pastebin   dpkg -l | grep mysql   please
[17:05] <xero73> usr13 & vanishing: I ran the remove command first given and it's done running should I run the purge now?
[17:05] <usr13> xero73: Ok, did you download NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.20.run ?
[17:05] <vanishing> i would purge, just to be safe
[17:05] <usr13> xero73: If so, where is it?  ~/Downloads ?
[17:05] <Shadowandlight> bekks: http://privatepaste.com/9ffe7fe99f
[17:05] <xero73> vanishing: purging now
[17:06] <Shadowandlight> bekks: maybe im on 13.04.01 now btw?
[17:06] <xero73> usr13: yes I downloaded it
[17:06] <Shadowandlight> based on that command
[17:06] <usr13> xero73: Ok it is in ~/Downloads, right?
[17:06] <bekks> Shadowandlight: huh?
[17:06] <xero73> usr13: correct
[17:06] <zykotick9> Shadowandlight: "lsb_release -a" should show you...
[17:06] <bekks> Shadowandlight: "lsb_release -a" will show you...
[17:06] <usr13> xero73: Ok. Do this:  sudo apt-get install irssi
[17:07] <vanishing> :|
[17:07] <xero73> usr13: done
[17:07] <Shadowandlight> zykotick9: bekks yes I am on 13.04 now heh
[17:08] <Shadowandlight> bekks: http://privatepaste.com/9ffe7fe99f
[17:08] <usr13> xero73: Done?  Ok... When you trun off the X server, you will have six (6) console terminals to use.  tty1 tty2 tty3 tty4 tty5 and tty6
[17:08] <marlo> <--tad confused, when i 'grep Subnet /etc/tinc/vpn/hosts/*' on one machine, I get a listing of all the files <with filenames> that contain the line 'Subnet'... when I run this on another machine, I get the same listing, but the file names aren't included... what's up with that?
[17:08] <Ubuntivity> Does ~/.bashrc is executed at startup even in 'text' mode?
[17:08] <xero73> usr13: ok..how do I turn off xserver then?
[17:09] <yeyeman> I love skype
[17:09]  * Ubuntivity apologizes for his grammatical error above.
[17:09] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: bash rc  <- hint :)
[17:09] <ceed^> I am running 13.10 but suddenly there's nothing in the dash. when I type there's nothing showing up so I cant launch programs or anything
[17:09] <xero73> usr13: and which do I use?
[17:09] <yeyeman> it does not actually quit when I tell it to quit
[17:09] <Ubuntivity> vanishing: should I take that as a 'yes'?
[17:09] <yeyeman> it crashes if someone tries to call me
[17:09] <vanishing> yes
[17:10] <yeyeman> awesome piece of software
[17:10] <usr13> xero73: Pick one and use it.  Alt-Right-Arrow will go up one and Alt-Left-Arrow will go down one.  Or Ctrl-Alt-F1 to Ctrl-Alt-F2 etc. etc.  And you can get on a free console and issue command irssi to get on IRC again.
[17:10] <usr13> Ok.  So what you want to do first is to make sure you can exicute the file.  cd Downloads
[17:10] <vanishing> hang on 1 sec
[17:10] <Ubuntivity> can I get a script to run only when I boot in 'text' mode but not when I boot in 'quiet splash'?
[17:11] <reisio> Ubuntivity: no doubt
[17:11] <xero73> usr13: but how do I shut down x server?
[17:11] <Ubuntivity> reisio: How can I do that
[17:11] <usr13> xero73: see my PM
[17:11] <reisio> xero73: sudo service lightdm stop
[17:11] <marlo> oh... it's because there's only one file
[17:11] <reisio> Ubuntivity: what's the difference between them? Why do you want to?
[17:11] <vanishing> might want to tell him how to use irssi first......
[17:11] <vanishing> just saying...
[17:11] <Ubuntivity> reisio: I need it for automated purpose
[17:12] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: I would do some search on plymouth..
[17:12] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: since that take care of the "splash" part
[17:12] <reisio> Ubuntivity: which purpose?
[17:13] <foofoobar> Hi. htop shows me that one (v)CPU is at 100%. How do I find out which process causes this?
[17:14] <foofoobar> When I sort by cpu usage the highest is at 0.7%
[17:14] <memoryleak> did someone manged to install nvidia-propretary drivers for a quadro K1000M? First thing happens is "black deskop" with the x error "No display found"
[17:14] <foofoobar> oh no, its xflux
[17:14] <foofoobar> wtf is xflux
[17:15] <Ubuntivity> reisio: I need to have 2 entries in GRUB, the first (default) for text mode (which runs a particular script after booting) and the other is the usual GRUB entry that loads the Desktop mode.
[17:15] <reisio> foofoobar: screen color adjuster?
[17:15] <reisio> poor man's compiz inverter
[17:15]  * Ubuntivity hopes reisio didn't forget him.
[17:16] <reisio> Ubuntivity: why's that
[17:16] <foofoobar> reisio, ah you are right
[17:16] <foofoobar> I killed it, cpu back to normal
[17:16] <james_> Hello
[17:16] <reisio> 'lo james
[17:17] <Ubuntivity> reisio: I want that PC to start automatically every morning to perform that particular task, and in the same time use that PC as a regular Desktop Ubuntu when it is runned manually by a user.
[17:17] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: cron?
[17:17] <Ubuntivity> reisio: not in the same 'time' of course :)
[17:18] <james__> Hello
[17:18] <Ubuntivity> vanishing: not exactly cron, since this automated starting will not be only in the morning but in various times.
[17:18] <reisio> Ubuntivity: so you want to not load the desktop for no particular reason?
[17:18] <james__> Was wondering if there is anyone that has a good understanding of Security Onion? Not Trolling here just a student looking to get some help
[17:18] <lmat> How do I install svn 1.7 client ?
[17:19] <reisio> james__: #tor
[17:19] <lmat> sudo apt-get install svn   says there is no candidate :(
[17:19] <james__> #tor
[17:19] <reisio> james__: /join #tor, read the topic
[17:19] <Ubuntivity> reisio: not 'no particular reason' but to reduce the load on the RAM
[17:19] <adamk> lmat: The program name is subversion.
[17:19] <reisio> Ubuntivity: let me read your thing again
[17:20] <lmat> adamk: thanks
[17:20] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: cron job can be run only in mornings :)
[17:20] <Ubuntivity> reisio: can you kindly help me applying my idea rather than criticizing it?
[17:20] <Ubuntivity> Thanks reisio
[17:20] <lmat> adamk: It doesn't have a version number, what version is it (more importantly, how do I tell ? ) ?
[17:20] <Ubuntivity> vanishing: I meant non-regular times (almost random)
[17:20] <reisio> if I run out of criticism I can
[17:21] <Ubuntivity> reisio: criticism will consume your energy, you know! (I used to do it, but not anymore)
[17:21] <reisio> Ubuntivity: so if a user wants to use a desktop during that specific time, they are just out of luck?
[17:21] <adamk> lmat: apt-cache show subversion
[17:21] <reisio> Ubuntivity: no it won't, overzealous criticism will
[17:21]  * reisio can criticize relaxédly
[17:21] <Ubuntivity> reisio: Yes, since that use is usually me.
[17:22] <lmat> adamk: thanks. Looks like 1.6 is the going version...
[17:22] <reisio> Ubuntivity: so you're doing wake-on-lan, or?
[17:22] <lmat> Does Ubuntu have plans to incorporate subversion 1.7 into the repository ? Seems about time, ja?
[17:22] <adamk> lmat: It's 1.7 on Ubuntu 13.10.
[17:22] <Ubuntivity> reisio: No, BIOS-timed start mostly
[17:22] <lmat> adamk: I see. Is there a way to connect to that repository or something ?
[17:22] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: hmm..so you want the script to be run at random intervals?
[17:23] <reisio> it's in >=12.10
[17:23] <adamk> lmat: Upgrade to Ubuntu 13.10.
[17:23] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: I'm a bit confused...
[17:23] <lmat> adamk: I'm in 12.04
[17:23] <reisio> 12.04 is quite old
[17:23] <lmat> reisio: it's LTS.
[17:23] <Ubuntivity> reisio: and maybe even custom electronic board to switch it on.
[17:23] <reisio> lmat: so? It's quite old
[17:23] <lmat> reisio: When another LTS comes out, I'll be there in an heartbeat.
[17:23] <Ubuntivity> vanishing: I want the script to run when the PC booted into 1st GRUB menu choice.
[17:23] <reisio> lmat: that's fine, it's still quite old
[17:23] <adamk> lmat: LTS is LTS.  It's not surprising it's going to be a bit behind the latest and greatest.
[17:23] <k1l_> lmat: 14.04 will be the next LTS
[17:24] <lmat> adamk: okay, so it can't (reasonably) be done ?
[17:24] <reisio> Ubuntivity: what would probably be the least awful way, would be
[17:24] <bekks> reisio: decide yourself, stability or bleeding edge.
[17:24] <reisio> Ubuntivity: to find the upstart "script" or whatever for starting X/lightdm/etc.
[17:24] <reisio> Ubuntivity: and put in an if [ inside time interval ]; return; fi kind of deal
[17:24] <adamk> lmat: You could create a package of 1.7 yourself, I guess. Perhaps there's a PPA that carries it for 12.04, but I'd be hesitant to do that.
[17:24] <lmat> bekks: What if you want stability and subversion 1.7 ? :-P
[17:25] <reisio> Ubuntivity: but you could also do silly things like change GRUB's order at powerdown every night
[17:25] <reisio> bekks: it's not me
[17:25] <lmat> adamk: But there's an official ubuntu repository that carries 1.7, right ? Is it inaccessible to me because my apt-get is too old or something ?
[17:25] <bekks> lmat: I bet there is a ppa for that ;)
[17:25] <usr13> Xero73: Hello?
[17:26] <siwica> I am still trying to figure out how to get a Ubuntu gui running with a GeForce GT 720M GPU (Ubuntu 13.10)
[17:26] <adamk> lmat: The repositories are specific to each Ubuntu release. subversion 1.7 is in the repositories for 13.10 (and perhaps even older Ubuntus, just not 12.04 or earlier).
[17:26] <lmat> bekks: Why would I need a personal archive when Ubuntu hosts it :'(
[17:26] <siwica> I am just seeing the console after installing, any hintes?
[17:26] <vanishing> Ubuntivity: I have to agree with reisio...
[17:26] <xero_> usr13: can you PM me?
[17:26] <lmat> adamk: I see. So my 12.04 doesn't talk to the 13.x repos...
[17:26] <siwica> *hints
[17:26] <Ubuntivity> reisio: can I pass a custom parameter/whatever through GRUB to get my idea done?
[17:26] <lmat> adamk: Perhaps there's something in a PPA to fix *that* ^_^
[17:26] <k1l_> lmat: ubuntu hosts it. just not packed for every ubuntu release.
[17:26] <reisio> Ubuntivity: yeah
[17:26] <lmat> k1l_: ah, okay :)
[17:26] <Ubuntivity> reisio: or at least modify the $PATH value through GRUB?
[17:27] <reisio> you could yes
[17:27] <lmat> guess this will have to do http://kovshenin.com/2013/subversion-1-7-on-ubuntu-12-04/  viruses, come to mama !!
[17:27] <usr13> xero_: See my PM
[17:27] <Ubuntivity> reisio: How can I do that please?
[17:27] <reisio> but I would, in the strange event I wanted this, modify the script that starts the DM
[17:27] <lmat> (jk)
[17:27] <usr13> xero_: Hello?
[17:28] <FailDrain> When I logged out of my session no gui came up instead I'm in command line
[17:28] <FailDrain> how do I fix this
[17:28] <reisio> you mean rootkits :p
[17:28] <LjL> Ubuntivity: you can check the parameters that were passed to the server by reading the pseudofile  /proc/cmdline
[17:28] <lmat> oh, wow, that was easy! Next time someone asks this, just tell them " add  'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/svn/ppa ubuntu precise main' to /etc/apt/sources.list, then upgrade and install subversion" :D
[17:28] <reisio> viruses are viruses because you don't willingly install them :p
[17:28] <LjL> Ubuntivity: s/server/kernel/
[17:29] <makara_> hi. How to increase pointer speed, when using my notebook's touchpad?
[17:29] <FailDrain> is there a way to active gui mode in command line?
[17:29] <Ubuntivity> Amazing solution, LjL! Thank you very much :)
[17:29]  * Ubuntivity has his problem solved
[17:30] <makara_> FailDrain, you need to start the X window system
[17:30] <FailDrain> how do I do that?
[17:30] <Ubuntivity> Thank you LjL, reisio, vanishing, and everyone else :)
[17:30] <FailDrain> makara_
[17:30] <makara_> FailDrain, its beyond you. What distro are you using?
[17:30] <reisio> makara_: xset m 5 1
[17:30] <FailDrain> makara_: Ubuntu 13.0
[17:30] <reisio> FailDrain: what do you want the gui for?
[17:31] <makara_> FailDrain, server or desktop? Desktop should have a gui by default
[17:31] <makara_> reisio, thx
[17:31] <FailDrain> makara: I deleted it then renistalled it by accident
[17:32] <makara_> deleted it by accident, then reinstalled it....so now it should work??
[17:32] <OerHeks> FailDrain, you should mention this right away... try to reboot to see if it is solved
[17:32] <mavsman> Has anyone seen success with dual booting ubuntu and mac osx mavericks? I just upgraded to mavericks and now I can't boot into ubuntu anymore
[17:33] <memoryleak> mavsman: proabbly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows will help to fix the boot loader
[17:33] <mavsman> memoryleak: thanks, I'll take a look
[17:35] <DrMax_> is there a way of disabling the "this window is ready" notification ?
[17:37] <meltingw1x> hey saucy salamanders
[17:38] <OerHeks> DrMax_, when do you get that notification, never seen it before
[17:39] <HisaoNakai> lol meltingw1x
[17:39] <makara_> reisio, any idea how to make these settings stick - don't want to have to retype every time I startup
[17:40] <DrMax_> OerHeks : say I bind a keyboard short cut, windows-W to launch firefox
[17:41] <DrMax_> it pops "firefox brower | page title | URL | is ready
[17:41] <DrMax_> each time.
[17:41] <DrMax_> On gnome
[17:41] <DrMax_> And that prevents the new window from having the focus
[17:41] <DrMax_> (which is retarded)
[17:42] <DrMax_> I am not sure it's related to the notification
[17:42] <DrMax_> it's annoying and would like to get rid of it away
[17:43] <DrMax_> but gnome is inconsistent on how it gives focus to applications launched via a keyboard shortcut
[17:43] <DrMax_> terminal gets keyboard everytime
[17:43] <DrMax_> nautilus some
[17:43] <DrMax_> Firefox only if first window
[17:43] <zykotick9> !enter | DrMax_
[17:43] <DrMax_> and never after
[17:45] <DrMax_> ok
[17:47] <OerHeks> DrMax_, you could kill notifyosd to get rid of all notifications, i don't know if that could be done for one program/shortkey
[17:49] <DrMax_> is there a configuration somewhere where I can change some of the notifications? (rather than killing or uninstalling the whole notification system)
[17:49] <usr13> xero: Ok
[17:53] <lmat> DrMax_: I don't know what you mean. Which notifications ?
[17:53] <nAn00k> Anyone know how I can assemble something with ld without symbols?
[17:54] <xyzwhatever> hey guyse,   can I set two users to have the same home directory or will it break everything??
[17:54] <lmat> xyzwhatever: That's a good question :) tyas ?
[17:54] <lmat> xyzwhatever: IT should be fin.
[17:54] <xyzwhatever> kthxbye
[17:54] <lmat> doh... it should be fine.
[17:55] <nAn00k> Anyone know how I can assemble something with ld without symbols?
[17:57] <nAn00k> xyzwhatever yes you can you have to remove the sub dirs first the command is: sudo rm -rf /
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> what's ld?
[17:58] <nAn00k> An assembler
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> !find ld
[17:59] <Pumpkin-_> in case it isn't obvious, don't do what nAn00k just said.
[17:59] <nAn00k> yes deff dont do what i said lol
[17:59] <nAn00k> unless you wanna rebuild your system ;)
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> nAn00k  how is your question ubuntu related?
[17:59] <OerHeks> stop trolling nAn00k
[17:59] <nAn00k> ld is the assembler that comes with ubuntu
[18:00] <awi> hai...need help about xdman
[18:00] <Ubuntivity>  Out of pure curiosity, what does /proc/locks represent?
[18:00] <nAn00k> Im trying to get a forkbomb under 500 bytes in a system i have a shell on because im limited in disk space but the damn thing is trying to put symbols in it and that makes my exicutable >500 bytes
[18:01] <nAn00k> Its an Ubuntu rig
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> nAn00k  i guess you issue is beyond this channel
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> your*
[18:01] <LjL> Ubuntivity: files that have a POSIX "advisory lock", meaning that programs shouldn't write to them until the lock is gone, because some other program already is
[18:01] <awi> hai...need help about xdman
[18:02] <Ubuntivity> Thanks LjL.
[18:02] <awi> hai...need help about xdman
[18:02] <nAn00k> Anyone know a good low level programmingh channel?
[18:02] <doomlord_> osdev?
[18:02] <doomlord_> asm?
[18:02] <reisio> nAn00k: #C
[18:02] <nAn00k> ty ty
[18:03] <doomlord_> how low llevel
[18:03] <bekks> nAn00k: Programming fork bombs has nothing to do with "low level". The shortest fork bombs are known to be shell snippets, which take a few bytes only.
[18:03] <nAn00k> x86 assembly
[18:03] <reisio> not much point going lower than C
[18:03] <bekks> nAn00k: And even this was too much to tell, actually.
[18:04] <nAn00k> i need to write it in asm the shell is command limited and C is just too bloated to fit my space requirements
[18:04] <Trudko> Hi guys I am trying to setup appache and I have this config file: http://pastie.org/8463273 . It is RoR application(passenger apache) so I had to run ln -s /home/user/websitesfolder/myappfolder/public  /home/user/websitesfolder/myappfolder but i get error /home/user/websitesfolder/myappfolder/public': File exists
[18:04] <reisio> nAn00k: ah, travelling back in time to when you couldn't fit dozens of gigs on a fingernail-sized card?
[18:05] <nAn00k> nah im just a limited user lol
[18:05] <doomlord_> ##asm
[18:05] <doomlord_> i've only written a tiny amount of x86 asm myself
[18:05] <LjL> please let's keep in on-topic for this channel
[18:05] <awi> why i cant download using xdman when i try to dmnload from the adf.ly?????
[18:06] <nAn00k> Ljl sorry im off to #asm
[18:06] <awi> why i cant download using xdman when i try to dmnload from the adf.ly?????
[18:06] <vanishing> whats xdman?
[18:06] <LjL> awi: i don't understand what you're asking, maybe you should elaborate a bit more, instead of repeating the question multiple times
[18:07] <awi> extreme download manager...
[18:07] <awi> ermmm.ok LjL
[18:07] <vanishing> welll...you have to ask the author of xdman...
[18:08] <awi> owh....ok
[18:08] <OerHeks> awi, that  adf.ly is an url shortener, get the full url
[18:10] <Marlenee> any altrantive ncruse for cssh i usee pssh ?
[18:10] <babinlonston> Is it Linux Penguin is Open Source and can i use it in my website ? or its hav Copyright ?
[18:11] <awi> ermmmm...actually xdman nt automticallly download with xdman.dats the prob.but if use window,it automatically download with idm
[18:11] <reisio> babinlonston: most governments consider all things to have copyright
[18:11] <reisio> babinlonston: that's separate from right to use
[18:11] <babinlonston> :(
[18:12] <kostkon> babinlonston, the penguin logo?
[18:12] <babinlonston> kostkon: yessssssss
[18:12] <beandog> babinlonston: you mean Tux.  Yah you're fine
[18:12] <kostkon> babinlonston, its copyrighted obviously but under gpl or some other license. so yeah go ahead and use it
[18:12] <babinlonston> Same Tux
[18:12] <nAn00k> Found it '-s' flag :D
[18:13] <babinlonston> Wow Cool then i'm gonna  use in my site
[18:13] <babinlonston> thanks buddy
[18:13] <kostkon> babinlonston, maybe its wikipedia entry will say more about it
[18:13] <Harmageddon> Hi everyone! I'm trying to boot from an Ubuntu 13.10 Live CD (64bit). There is the Ubuntu loading screen, then it suddenly stops with an "divide error: 000 [#1] SMP"
[18:13] <babinlonston> kostkon: ok let me check
[18:14] <zykotick9> babinlonston: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux there is an acknowledgement requirement!
[18:14] <babinlonston> oh k
[18:15] <Shadowandlight> Afternoon all , having a mysql issue I cant seem to solve... Posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/372580/issue-getting-mysql-to-work-correctly
[18:15] <VlanX> hello there, any simple way to backup an android phone to Ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:16] <reisio> VlanX: dd, or mount & rsync/cp/tar
[18:16] <zykotick9> Shadowandlight: ahh, if you are using pip, it's not really an ubuntu issue IMO
[18:17] <VlanX> reisio: will this backup phone numbers, messages and so on?
[18:17] <Orcie> Lo
[18:17] <Orcie> I am trying a mini.iso install
[18:17] <Orcie> but as soon as I am offered to choose language my keyboard does not work anymore
[18:17] <Shadowandlight> zykotick9: is there some other method i can use to fix this?
[18:17] <Rory> Orcie: It is a known bug, is it a USB keyboard?
[18:17] <Orcie> guess the installer is broken
[18:17] <Orcie> Rory: yup
[18:17] <ENYERBETH> hola
[18:18] <ENYERBETH> cm estan
[18:18] <Orcie> Are there other options besides usb :)
[18:18] <zykotick9> Shadowandlight: sorry i don't know...  not an area i'm knowledable in... best of luck.
[18:18] <Orcie> ps/2 is old :D
[18:18] <Rory> Orcie: I know it affects the Ubuntu Server installation image, I didn't know it affected that one too
[18:18] <Orcie> Rory how to fix?
[18:19] <Orcie> it is 64bit image
[18:19] <Rory> Orcie: I don't think there's a fix at the moment, at least for the server image. I don't know if this is the same issue but here is the bug I was talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1244176
[18:19] <zykotick9> Orcie: see if your BIOS has usb legacy (or some such wording) enabled...  fyi, i'm having the usb keyboard issue right now across multiple computers (but ps/2 keeps working in my cases)
[18:20] <reisio> VlanX: not unless they're stored on the phone
[18:20] <Orcie> no offense but isn't this kinda critical?
[18:20] <reisio> VlanX: you'd probably need an on-phone app to do that, if it's even possible
[18:20] <reisio> which it should be
[18:20] <zykotick9> Orcie: fyi, it's not limited to ubuntu (i'm not using ubuntu in my case)
[18:22] <Rory> Orcie: Yeah it's kind of embarassing. It's worth trying zykotick9's suggestion though, I hadn't considered that
[18:22] <sam113101> is there a way to do grep but also print the lines around the matches?
[18:22] <reisio> sam113101: -B 2 -A 2
[18:24] <VlanX> resio: yeah i think you're probably right
[18:24] <sam113101> reisio: thanks
[18:24] <sam113101> lol this is great, I didn't know you could do that
[18:25] <reisio> :p
[18:25] <sam113101> the unix tools are so powerful
[18:25] <reisio> yarp
[18:25] <Orcie_> What is the cause of the bug?
[18:25] <Orcie_> legacy was enabled
[18:26] <Orcie_> No succes tough
[18:26] <zykotick9> Orcie_: i'm not surprised.  doesn't work for me either... but was worth a shot.  well, if you don't have a ps2 keyboard and/or port, i've got no suggestions...  best of luck.
[18:27] <wg0d> hello
[18:27] <Orcie_> anybody got a clue what the cause is?
[18:27] <Orcie_> It must be the installer right?
[18:27] <Orcie_> It is working in the bios so why not in the installer
[18:27] <Rory> Orcie_: The best info will be on that bug report really
[18:27] <wg0d> anyone kind enough to help me with an issue related to xdebug on ubuntu ?
[18:27] <tupkish> hmm, why is the ubuntu logo different form windows?
[18:28] <tupkish> aren't they both computers?
[18:28] <Rory> tupkish: Is that a serious question?
[18:28] <reisio> tupkish: neither windows nor ubuntu are computers
[18:28] <vanishing> sam113101: man's your best friend :)
[18:28] <compdoc> I wish I had a best friend
[18:28] <Rory> tupkish: The same reason the Snickers logo is different from M&Ms even though they're both sugar
[18:28] <reisio> I wish you had, too
[18:28] <tupkish> compdoc.. try doccomp!~
[18:28] <Orcie_> what a waste of time...
[18:28] <tupkish> they are great friends
[18:29] <tupkish> Rory... I htink they are both chocolate, even if they contain sugar
[18:29] <tupkish> thats like saying a woman is a man , because she has teeth!
[18:29] <tupkish> :/
[18:29] <vanishing> Orcie_: maybe because Bios controls it? I dunno
[18:30] <ZeThomas> hello, although I have set up my power management to do nothing when the laptop lid is closed, it still goes into some kind of suspend mode; how is this possible?
[18:30] <tupkish> didn't answer though why ubuntuy logo is different :(
[18:31] <reisio> ZeThomas: how'd you set it up?
[18:31] <vanishing> tupkish: why not different?
[18:31] <wg0d> no xdebug expert around here ?
[18:31] <reisio> tupkish: different from what
[18:31] <vanishing> this is like asking why 1+1 = 2
[18:32] <tupkish> why is the ubuntu logo different form the windows logo
[18:32] <tupkish> when they are both computers?
[18:32] <bazhang> !ot | tupkish
[18:32] <ZeThomas> reisio: with xfce4-power-manager; almost everything is set to 'do nothing'
[18:32] <Rory> tupkish: It's different because Ubuntu and Windows are separate products, and they have different logos because they have different brands
[18:32] <tupkish> but they are both computers!
[18:32] <vanishing> tupkish: so?
[18:33] <Pici> tupkish: This channel is for serious support queries, please stop with the nonsense.
[18:33] <Rory> ZeThomas: Are you using Xubuntu? It might be a Xubuntu-specific issue, try asking in the #xubuntu channel to see if they can help
[18:33] <DJones> tupkish: That is like asking why a Mercedes badge is different to a Skoda badge even though they're both cars.  It is however offtopic, so please don't continue the discussion
[18:34] <ZeThomas> reisio, actually I have lubuntu
[18:34] <Rory> ZeThomas: Again, it might be a Lubuntu-specific issue since I don't experience that behaviour on Ubuntu, you might try the #lubuntu channel
[18:34] <reisio> ZeThomas: doesn't answer my question
[18:35] <Pici> tupkish: if you haven't already realized it, you're currently muted because you are disrupting the channel.
[18:35] <reisio> ZeThomas: oh xfce you said, well well
[18:35] <reisio> ZeThomas: did that come with Lubuntu?
[18:36] <Rory> reisio: I think Lubuntu uses the xfce4-power-manager
[18:36] <reisio> I think many things :p
[18:37] <ZeThomas> reisio, it must, I don't recall installing any power management myself, and the install is one week old
[18:37] <reisio> ZeThomas: pastebinit xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -l -v
[18:38] <ZeThomas> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377772/
[18:39] <reisio> ZeThomas: and you want closing the lid to do nothing?
[18:40] <ZeThomas> yes (well except the screenlight)
[18:41] <reisio> ZeThomas: and instead it does what?
[18:42] <ZeThomas> it does something standby-y, the power led starts blinking, and I suspect it stops my calculations when I'm running tests for my work
[18:42] <reisio> suspect?
[18:43] <ZeThomas> reisio, let me test
[18:48] <nsaquatics1> Afternoon! I'm having a problem with a botched mysql install that refuses to be removed from the system. Ubuntu 12.01 mysql-server 5.5
[18:49] <bodhi_zazen> nsaquatics1 error message ?
[18:49] <Rory> nsaquatics1: How did you install it, and how are you trying to uninstall it? Can you put the command you ran, along with the full output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:50] <ZeThomas> reisio: it does: stops calculations, audio/video playback, network activity, and fans
[18:51] <reisio> ZeThomas: okay, maybe you have more than one power manager running, then
[18:51] <nsaquatics1> Well it was install long ago.. I don't haqve that information. the full out of what i am getting now I can post if pastbin is not used here.
[18:52] <bodhi_zazen> nsaquatics1 use pastebin
[18:52] <nsaquatics1> Did the link not go through? I pasted the error message.
[18:52] <Rory> nsaquatics1: use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:53] <reisio> ZeThomas: run this to be sure, though: xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p '/xfce4-power-manager/lid-action-on-ac' -n -t uint -s 0 && xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p '/xfce4-power-manager/lid-action-on-battery' -n -t uint -s 0
[18:53] <GeeJee> anyone a suggestion for instruction on lib pam mount? Trying already for 2 evenings to get it working.
[18:53] <nsaquatics1> Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6377857/
[18:54] <Guest55337> salve
[18:54] <reisio> salvete
[18:54] <Rory> nsaquatics1: Can you try: sudo apt-get remove mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server
[18:55] <nsaquatics1> Rory: SOB... that time it worked... I swear I tried that...
[18:56] <nsaquatics1> You guys rock!...
[18:57] <Rory> Glad it is working now :)
[18:58] <timini> How can I search for a package, with Fedora there's a command "yum provides xscreensaver-command"
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> timini: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[18:58] <zykotick9> timini: "apt-cache search foo" usually works
[18:59] <timini> THanks :)
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> timini: or for individual files:  apt-file search filename
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> timini: if the file is already installed nd you want to know the package it belongs to:  dpkg -S filename
[19:00] <moondoggy> Is there a decent pdf form editor that will work on Ubuntu?  Neither Okular nor Evince will save my form fields, but both save check-box marks.
[19:00] <wg0d> anyone familiar with xdebug check this issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186484&p=12841566
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> i recently tried to connect my ubuntu 13.04 laptop with eth cable to a wifi repeater, disabled wireless but icon was still searching for a network and i could not connect to http://192... any clues?
[19:00] <Rory> moondoggy: Take a look at pdfedit https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/lucid/pdfedit/
[19:01] <moondoggy> I have pdfedit, Rory .  That overlays text boxes, right?  It doesn't seem to recognize the actual form.
[19:01] <Ubuntivity> Hello, I have both / and /home on the same partition, but I want to move my /home directory to a new partition (that is currently FAT32), so what is the proper way of formatting it into EXT4 and assigning it to /home directory?
[19:02] <savetheinternet> hi
[19:02] <Rory> moondoggy: Do you know if the form is actually editable?
[19:02] <Rory> Ubuntivity: There's a guide on the wiki here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[19:02] <trirnoth> Upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 about a month ago without any issues. Today having strange problems. Certain programs (so far pidgin and firefox) show as running in ps and top, but no window. Ran from the command line with the respective debug options and not seeing any issues.
[19:03] <moondoggy> Strange--I can type in the fields, but it doesn't show up in the printout.
[19:03] <reisio> savetheinternet: hi
[19:03] <Rory> Ubuntivity: You can use the "gparted" partition editor to edit partitions and format them as ext4 and others
[19:03] <moondoggy> The creator claims we can type in it and email it back.
[19:03] <trirnoth> Any ideas appreciated. bugging the "heck" out of me.
[19:04] <Ubuntivity> Thanks Rory, but I need to do that in command line (Using Ubuntu Server).
[19:04] <Harmageddon>  I'm trying to boot from an Ubuntu 13.10 Live CD (64bit). There is the Ubuntu loading screen, then it suddenly stops with an "divide error: 000 [#1] SMP". Does anybody have an idea how to solve this?
[19:04] <Ubuntivity> Rory: That guide seems good. I'm going to read through it.
[19:04] <Rory> Ubuntivity: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdXN
[19:05] <Rory> Harmageddon: Sounds very much like either a corrupted .iso file, or a corrupted burned DVD
[19:05] <Rory> !md5sum | Harmageddon
[19:05] <Ubuntivity> Thanks Rory :)
[19:06] <Rory> Ubuntivity: I think all other instructions on that page can be followed on the server too
[19:06] <cordyceps> Harm
[19:06] <cordyceps> Harmageddon:
[19:07] <Ubuntivity> Rory: I believe so. thanks
[19:07] <cordyceps> googled that found one ref(googlewhack!).
[19:07] <cordyceps> there's an explanation in there, me, Don't know what it means. Maybe useful ;)
[19:08] <Ubuntivity> what does "lost+found" folder represent?
[19:08] <drewdrewdrew> hi
[19:09] <reisio> Ubuntivity: it is cryptically named, isn't it :p
[19:09] <reisio> Ubuntivity: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/lostfound.html
[19:09] <Harmageddon> ubottu: Ok, it looks pretty broken... :(
[19:09] <reisio> drewdrewdrew: hi
[19:09] <Harmageddon> sorry
[19:09] <Harmageddon> Rory: It looks pretty broken. :(
[19:10] <Harmageddon> I'll try it with a new one
[19:10] <Rory> Harmageddon: How do you mean? If the md5sum does not match you will have to re-download the image
[19:10] <Harmageddon> thank you!
[19:10] <Guest55337> http://xdcc_17
[19:10] <Rory> Harmageddon: At least it was something simple :)
[19:10] <Harmageddon> exactly
[19:11] <Harmageddon> at least I only have to use another blank DVD, but as long as I'm not out of them, it's ok :)
[19:12] <kaziqta> hi
[19:12] <kaziqta> I need some help, somebody available?
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> !ask | kaziqta
[19:13] <kaziqta> I just installed ZorinOS, but after the install all my second partition is gone, music, media, all that, how to recover it?
[19:13] <acecabana> !patience
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> kaziqta: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[19:13] <kaziqta> nobody in the other, man :)
[19:14] <kaziqta> the thing is it should be done the same way, so here I am sure there are people that know how to help
[19:14] <nAn00k>  hi
[19:14] <kaziqta> so anyone?
[19:15] <vanishing> sorry it doesnt work like that mate...
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> kaziqta: plz dont persist, this is not the channel for ZorinOs
[19:15] <deper29> kaziqta: is the partition wiped?
[19:16] <kaziqta> not visible
[19:16] <deper29> kaziqta: have you tried to mount it?
[19:16] <kaziqta> well my HDD is 320GB, and now only one is visible with 320GB free space
[19:16] <kaziqta> I haven't formatted, haven't deleted partitions
[19:17] <deper29> kaziqta: did you install and choose to use the whole disk?
[19:17] <deper29> if so, I have bad news for you.
[19:17] <kaziqta> no
[19:17] <kaziqta> only thing I chose was to install it instead of windows 8
[19:18] <deper29> kaziqta: pastebin 'fdisk -l'
[19:18] <deper29> I want to take a peek at your partitions
[19:19] <pero> is there any way to quick preview PSD files like on a mac?
[19:19] <kermit> networkmanager brings up my ethernet, but then brings it back down 2 seconds later, over and over.. if i stop network manager while it's up, it stays up and works fine.. why would it do that?
[19:19] <reisio> pero: imagemagick's 'display'
[19:19] <tzx> I converted my hard disk from GPT to MBR
[19:20] <reisio> gj
[19:20] <tzx> The partitions are intact but it won't boot.
[19:20] <pero> reisio: is there any way to tie that to nautilus?
[19:20] <kaziqta> Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
[19:20] <kaziqta> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
[19:20] <kaziqta> Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[19:20] <kaziqta> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:20] <kaziqta> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[19:20] <FloodBot1> kaziqta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <tzx> I tried reinstalling GRUB2, running Boot-Repair, reinstalling Xubuntu.
[19:20] <kaziqta> Disk identifier: 0x000e8ddf
[19:20] <reisio> pero: yup
[19:21] <tzx> None of those have had any effect.
[19:21] <pero> do tell :)
[19:21] <reisio> pero: same as any app association
[19:21] <deper29> kaziqta: based on your output, it looks like you just have one partition
[19:21] <tzx> Does anyone have any idea how I might fix this?
[19:21] <pero> reisio: i've never done that before - where can i read up?
[19:21] <deper29> kermit: pastebin dmesg
[19:21] <kaziqta> so what's up with my second one that I used for 2 years?
[19:21] <reisio> pero: historically you just right click, properties/open with/etc.
[19:22] <deper29> kaziqta: I don't know, but it's not there.
[19:22] <kaziqta> that is messed up
[19:22] <kaziqta> can I recover it?
[19:22] <deper29> kaziqta: no
[19:22] <pero> reisio: nice, got it
[19:22] <deper29> you have sda1 and sda2. sda2 is swap
[19:22] <pero> thx
[19:23] <kaziqta> nobody asked me if I want to format or delete partitions
[19:23] <deper29> kaziqta: I am not familiar with the install process of zorin
[19:23] <deper29> but I do know that you only have one partition
[19:23] <reisio> kaziqta: you can probably recover at least some of it
[19:23] <deper29> well, a swap one as well I guess
[19:24] <kaziqta> I care only about my music, my tabs and my demos
[19:24] <kaziqta> and all my pics from going around the world
[19:25] <pero> reisio: all the PSDs I want to look at are of too high resolution for my screen - any way I can zoom in/out ?
[19:25] <kaziqta> do you know if testdisk can recover it?
[19:25] <deper29> kaziqta: I don't have experience recovering stuff. I do recommend backups though. Having everything on only one computer is analagous to carrying all of your money as cash in your wallet.
[19:26] <reisio> pero: clicking gives a few options
[19:26] <kaziqta> well if that is so :) I have to recover 80GB of music
[19:26] <reisio> pero: otherwise look at man display
[19:28] <ZeThomas> reisio, I ran what you gave me, but it gave no output
[19:28] <reisio> ZeThomas: that's normal
[19:28] <reisio> ZeThomas: close your lid and see if anything's changed
[19:29] <ZeThomas> reisio, nothing changed
[19:30] <martinrame> Hi, any LVM expert out there?
[19:30] <moondoggy> Rory: I installed master-pdf-editor, pdfedit, okular and evince, but none of them properly tab through the form fields to just fill in the form.
[19:30] <moondoggy> Any other ideas?
[19:31] <moondog> moondoggy: hey! not fair.
[19:31] <moondoggy> Me????  I'll trade ya!
[19:31] <reisio> ZeThomas: k, maybe there's another power manager running, then
[19:31] <moondog> :)
[19:31] <reisio> or your laptop could be awful and have a hardware override :p
[19:31] <reisio> not actually ever heard of that, though
[19:32] <moondoggy> Funny that I tried to register "moondog" first.  Was "moondoggy" your first try?
[19:32] <moondoggy> No, I guess that would be an unlikely race condition.  :)
[19:32] <moondog> no, I've had moondog and moondoggie for about 10 years
[19:33] <ZeThomas> reisio, there is a setting in my bios to do something like that on lid close, but ofcourse I also set that to off
[19:33] <moondog> but I think we're off-topic :)
[19:33] <moondoggy> Yeah, barking up the wrong tree.  Ok, I'll stop right now.
[19:33] <deper29> ZeThomas: what are you trying to do?
[19:34] <tzx> Anyone have any clue about how to get a functional Xubuntu partition to boot when the MBR/GRUB are trashed/not working?
[19:35] <reisio> tzx: make them working
[19:35] <reisio> tzx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:35] <tzx> I ran that.
[19:35] <tzx> Twice.
[19:36] <Ycarene> I can't find any reliable fixes on google, when I log into KDE I get "Graphic Tablet Error" "Profile default does not exist"  When I use the mouse portion of my tablet (Wacom Intuos3 4x6) I can move the cursor but eventually the buttons stop working.
[19:36] <reisio> what exactly is the problem?
[19:36] <tzx> My system won't boot.
[19:36] <reisio> tzx: what's it say when it tries to boot?
[19:36] <Ubuntivity> Sorry I was disconnected due to poor network. So, what does 'lost+found' directory mean?
[19:36] <tzx> No operating system.
[19:37] <martinrame> Does anyone faced the "device-mapper: table: 252:0 sda5 too small for target..." error?
[19:37] <Ycarene> lost+found is a dumping ground for data found by fsck that it doesn't know where to put elsewhere.
[19:38]  * Ubuntivity is suffering from connection problems
[19:39] <Ycarene> Repeating for Ubuntivity - /lost+found/ is where stuff fsck find that it doesn't know what else to do with.
[19:41] <ZeThomas> deper29: closing the lid makes my laptop go standby, even though i have not configured this
[19:42] <mehdi> I'm looking to dump all the kernel threads to review, is there a particular kernel debug package i need to dig up?
[19:45] <kermit> deper29: http://pastebin.com/uUgeickD  .. i think its a loop where changing the mac, causes a carrier change, which causes networkmanager to reset the mac, etc etc.. its not a big deal really as i can work around it.
[19:47] <deper29> ZeThomas: you're using kde?
[19:47] <ZeThomas> deper29: no, lxde
[19:48] <deper29> ZeThomas: uhh, I've never played with their powermanager :)
[19:48] <deper29> kermit: you're changing yoru mac?
[19:49] <kermit> deper29: yes
[19:49] <kermit> deper29: and it doesnt seem to enter this loop when i dont
[19:50] <ZeThomas> deper29: they use the one from xdce; reisio: even if i kill and uninstall xfce4-power-manager, this behavior stays
[19:50] <Lars_G> Ok, when I have non upstart init scripts in 12.04, what is the right way to move them to/from init levels? rm ln by hand, or is there an approved tool?
[19:52] <deper29> kermit: now, I haven't changed my mac for a while, but I do remember you had to put eth0 down before you changed mac
[19:52] <deper29> ZeThomas: do you use acpi?
[19:53] <azi`> after upgrading to 13.04 wireless is not working anymore (intel Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300) is not working anymore.. in particular I cannot even press the wireless button on the laptop to turn it on
[19:53] <azi`> anyone happens to have any suggestions how to fix it? there is nothing related to this on the net that is useful for me
[19:53] <ZeThomas> deper29: yes, I have acpi_osi=Linux
[19:54] <deper29> ZeThomas: I mean, does it use acpi as a power manager?
[19:54] <ZeThomas> deper29: how do i check that?
[19:54] <deper29> is there a /etc/acpi/default.sh?
[19:55] <ZeThomas> deper29: no, only /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[19:57] <bah_humbug> quit
[19:57] <acecabana> what does it mean when firefox's window goes dark
[19:57] <bah_humbug> \quit
[19:57] <deper29> ZeThomas: I'm not sure why it would suspend then. Is there some settings that can disable that in lxde?
[19:57] <vanishing> bah_humbug: /quit
[19:58] <bah_humbug> Thanks man, going to exit in shame now
[19:58] <vanishing> lols
[19:58] <ZeThomas> deper29: no, I don't think so
[19:58] <nanlo> is there a way i can customize my live cd? with settings and programs I don't have to configure each time I boot
[19:59] <Lars_G> when I have non upstart init scripts in 12.04, what is the right way to move them to/from init levels? rm ln by hand, or is there an approved tool?
[20:00] <vanishing> nanlo: i dont think you can...
[20:01] <vanishing> nanlo: that's what install is for..
[20:01] <nanlo> vanishing: looking for a liveusb that I can take from computer to computer
[20:01] <vanishing> nanlo: well in that case you might
[20:01] <nanlo> vanishing: install wouldn't be appropriate for that use case
[20:01] <vanishing> usb :)
[20:02] <zykotick9> nanlo: you can install onto usb, and have it portable (so long as you don't want to use it as install media)
[20:03] <nanlo> zykotick9: ah, that's exactly what I want
[20:05] <ultraartlu> heya
[20:05] <irGautvol> I have a sort of working gui again with another userid. but my terminal has bad profile - wrong user. Let's start with unity or lightdm flickering when I move the mouse. pcieport driver. I think I should use radeon. How to change on 13.10?
[20:07] <deper29> ZeThomas: http://goo.gl/NcGon0
[20:08] <xeno_> Any fix known for chromedriver not working presently on selenium webdriver ruby?
[20:09] <xeno_> I got the firefox config working out of the box, but the chrome version falls flat.
[20:09] <dreamy_> does anyone knows if there is any video chat application where you can meet people?
[20:09] <dreamy_> with video
[20:09] <vanishing> dreamy_: skype? google hangout?
[20:10] <Pici> xeno_: have you considered asking in #selenium ?
[20:10] <xeno_> Ok.
[20:10] <dreamy_> but in skype theres no chat rooms
[20:10] <david38400> I've just installed Ubuntu 12 with Thunderbird email. Its been ok for the last few days, but all of a sudden my inbox is listing everything badly. Can anyone help please
[20:10] <dreamy_> is there any with chat rooms?
[20:10] <vanishing> i wouldn't know...:D
[20:10] <reisio> dreamy_: lots of web based ones
[20:10] <deper29> dreamy_: I would do Google+ mixed with Google Hangouts
[20:11] <dreamy_> i know one called camfrog
[20:11] <ZeThomas> deper29: I don't have /etc/acpi/lidbtn.sh, nor a /etc/acpi/actions folder...
[20:11] <dreamy_> theres already a project to try to make it run in linux
[20:12] <irGautvol> dreamy_ deper29's comment sounds good
[20:12] <ultraartlu> is there some people here who wants to talk about BLINK!*@ or RANCID for example??? oooor give me a link there i'll be able to do that / i'm a fcking noob here but i like IRC very much, and i'm searching some cool stuff like channels wibbbily bubbbly networks :) thank you
[20:12] <Pici> !alis | ultraartlu
[20:12] <dreamy_> irGautvol, google+ has conversation chat rooms?
[20:13] <vanishing> dreamy_: every hangout is a "chat room"
[20:13] <deper29> dreamy_: no, but if you look on google+ you can find communities
[20:13] <reisio> hangouts is the video stuff
[20:13] <deper29> and some of them do the hangouts. You can do video or just chat
[20:13] <reisio> ultraartlu: gogloom.com
[20:13] <dreamy_> so ill do a search with google hangouts?
[20:14] <dreamy_> right
[20:14] <ultraartlu> i'm joing the question 'bout video chats)) is there some stuff like chartroulette?
[20:14] <reisio> there's chatroulette
[20:14] <deper29> ultraartlu: there's one even better! there's chatroulette!
[20:15] <deper29> damn, reisio beat me to it
[20:15] <reisio> heh
[20:15] <ultraartlu> alotta masturbation there))
[20:15] <reisio> what webcams are for
[20:15] <irGautvol> dreamy_ I think communities will work good enough
[20:16] <dreamy_> camfrog has a nick list and a chatroom, like in here in this chat rom
[20:17] <ultraartlu> LSD MUSHROOMS WEED DMT 25i-Nbome
[20:17] <ultraartlu> hahah
[20:17] <ultraartlu> just cool words
[20:17] <Sickki> drugs!
[20:17] <genii> ultraartlu: This is Ubuntu support channel. Please stop with the spam or you will be booted.
[20:17] <ultraartlu> lets play some drug game?
[20:18] <ultraartlu> sorry genii
[20:19] <gines> alguien me ayuda?
[20:19] <ultraartlu> i'm really sorry
[20:19] <genii> ultraartlu: If you have some Ubuntu support question, this is the right place :)
[20:19] <Pici> !es | gines
[20:19] <ultraartlu> i just want to find the place there is a lot of fun))
[20:20] <irGautvol> Any switches for ccsm / lightdm / unity for stopping flickering or how to switch to radeon driver for 13.10?
[20:20] <mehdi> what does it take to dump the kernel threads?
[20:20] <vanishing> #alotoffun
[20:20] <dreamy_> gine: hablo Espanhol
[20:20] <ultraartlu> ow talking on #alotoffun
[20:21] <vanishing> irGautvol: can you elaborate?
[20:21] <frog__> I am trieing to run 5.1 audio over an spdif output and i am trieing to use this instruction: http://opennomad.com/content/ubuntu-1210-and-spdif-or-iec958-or-optical-audio-output . I am at the point where i must start pavucontrol. there i get the following message: http://snag.gy/X3roo.jpg . What am i doing wrong?
[20:22] <genii> ultraartlu: If you don't have a support question, #ubuntu-offtopic channel is more appropriate to just chat in.
[20:22] <ljunggren> hey, i installed drivers from amd website.. how can i remove them? i want to use either opensource or fgrlx-updates
[20:23] <vanishing> ljunggren: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-propretary-ati-drivers
[20:23] <ultraartlu> thnx genii
[20:24] <irGautvol> vanishing since upgrade to 13.10 lightdm kicks my original user out and defaults back to session=gnome-fallback - which I used to eliminate flickering. Any other users can log in but screen flickers with updates
[20:24] <ljunggren> vanishing, oh and.. what is the difference between "xserver-xorg-video-radeon" and "xserver-xorg-video-ati" ?
[20:25] <irGautvol> vanishing updates = mouse movement or windows opening
[20:25] <ljunggren> vanishing, hey, i don't have fgrlx-updates or fgrlx installed so that guide does not apply to me right? :(
[20:25] <irGautvol> vanishing I use another user id (with chown of my stuff) to get into gui.
[20:26] <adamk> ljunggren: How did you install the drivers from the AMD website?  Did you build deb packages to install or did you just run the installation program directly?
[20:27] <deper29> adamk: I believ you can just run their install directly.
[20:27] <shroomduke> I had a similar problem irGautov , installed video driver and everything went to hell
[20:27] <ljunggren> adamk, i can't really remember.. i belive i  ran it directly
[20:27] <adamk> ljunggren: Check in /usr/share/ati/ for an uninstallation script.
[20:27] <ljunggren> adamk, if i built a deb package and installed it it would turn up as installed right?
[20:27] <ljunggren> in synaptic
[20:27] <shroomduke> oops
[20:27] <adamk> ljunggren: Yes, it should.
[20:28] <irGautvol> shroomduke How did you recover?
[20:28] <shroomduke> I uninstalled the driver from recovery shell
[20:28] <ljunggren> adamk, i have one amd-uninstall.sh ?
[20:28] <glad> hi guys i'm new here and i've no sound on edubuntu 13.04 any help pls
[20:28] <ljunggren> adamk, and fgrlx-uninstall.sh
[20:29] <adamk> ljunggren: OK, so run one, and if the other still exists after, run it too.
[20:29] <adamk> ljunggren: And, in the future, don't install drivers that way :-)
[20:29] <ljunggren> adamk, just doubleclick?
[20:29] <ljunggren> adamk, i will not sorry =)
[20:29] <adamk> ljunggren: They need to be run as root.  I would run them from a terminal with sudo.
[20:29] <vanishing> irGautvol: are you running compiz?
[20:29] <shroomduke> let me think... oh yea, I had to remove the .xauthority files...
[20:29] <ljunggren> adamk, oh
[20:30] <shroomduke> and uninstall the driver, I found a few things online that pointed me in that direction
[20:30] <vanishing> shroomduke: hmm..i think if the permission of .Xauthority is messed up you will end up with a black screen right?
[20:30] <irGautvol> vanishing yes. some setting outside home folder for this user is doing it
[20:30] <ljunggren> adamk, just "sudo amd-uninstall.sh" ?
[20:30] <vanishing> irGautvol: inside you mean..
[20:31] <adamk> ljunggren: You probably need to specify the full path or change into that directory and run 'sudo ./amd-uninstall.sh'
[20:31] <ghanhass_> hello
[20:31] <ljunggren> adamk, "restore of system enviorment completet" wut
[20:31] <adamk> ljunggren: Well that's good.  Now check to see if /usr/share/amd is empty.
[20:32] <ljunggren> adamk, ah yeah its no longer there
[20:32] <irGautvol> vanishing No outside. If  I adduser and make that user my home directory in passwd and chown it still does it while the new user on my old folder can login
[20:32] <ljunggren> adamk, should i reboot before i install fgrlx-updates now?
[20:32] <frog__> I am trieing to run 5.1 audio over an spdif output and i am trieing to use this instruction: http://opennomad.com/content/ubuntu-1210-and-spdif-or-iec958-or-optical-audio-output . I am at the point where i must start pavucontrol. there i get the following message: http://snag.gy/X3roo.jpg . What am i doing wrong?
[20:32] <adamk> ljunggren: Probably not a bad idea in case the fglrx kernel module is still loaded.
[20:33] <ljunggren> adamk, ok will xserver be loaded now when i reboot?
[20:33] <ljunggren> adamk, i mean opensource drivers
[20:33] <shroomduke> i did sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[20:33] <ljunggren> shroomduke, yeah can't do that they don't show up in synaptic either but its done now
[20:33] <adamk> ljunggren: Theoretically....  Last time I uninstalled the fglrx driver that way, it safely reverted back to the open source drivers. You should probably remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it still exists.
[20:34] <ljunggren> adamk, ok.. just deleting that folder then
[20:34] <cabuloso> Hi, after installing Ubuntu 13.10 x64 on my Windows 8 desktop I lost the ability to restart on windows, I thought Ubuntu would install grub or some equivalent but it didn't, anyone know how I can solve this problem?
[20:34] <irGautvol> vanishing I had an idea that keepass2 could be it but have removed it now. .dmrc keeps defaulting to fallback instead of session=ubuntu
[20:34] <shroomduke> arg, I need to keep better track of what I'm doing on this thing
[20:34] <ljunggren> adamk, i just have xorg.conf.fgrlx-0 and xorg.conf.orgiginal-0
[20:35] <ljunggren> just i delete any?
[20:35] <ljunggren> "just i delete any" i forgot how to english... sorry
[20:36] <ljunggren> i will just leave it as it is
[20:36] <zykotick9> shroomduke: <sidenote> you can use "apt-get purge foo" save some typing ;)
[20:36] <ljunggren> or should i...
[20:36] <glad> help!!!!no sound edubuntu 13.04
[20:37] <deper29> ljunggren: uhh, I do not believe you want to delete your xorg.conf
[20:38] <vanishing> irGautvol: any log in /var/log/lightdm?
[20:38] <irGautvol> cabuloso I have seen some sites about this how to you'll have to google if some here does not help fast enough. no windows cd... restore is not an option. but boot recovery efi...? sorry can't help more.
[20:38] <ljunggren> adamk,
[20:38] <ljunggren> adamk, how do i see which driver im using?
[20:38] <ljunggren> ohmygard my system is so much more fluid now when i deleted amd drivers
[20:39] <cabuloso> irGautvol, I tried googling but it only returns results for people who can't boot Ubuntu, in my case I can't boot Windows 8. :/
[20:40] <shroomduke> How to get default xorg.conf back?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/163471/how-to-get-default-xorg-conf-back
[20:42] <zykotick9> shroomduke: the default is NOT to have an xorg.conf...
[20:42] <shroomduke> 10-4
[20:43] <shroomduke> I am learning ...trying anyway
[20:44] <k1l> shroomduke: which ubuntu is that exactly? (lsb_release -a will tell you)
[20:44] <irGautvol> vanishing Ah yes. I remember: Greeter requests session gnome-fallback; Writing ....dmrc ; Seat: Stopping greeter; display server will be re-used for user session .. must I pastbinit?
[20:44] <shroomduke> 13.10
[20:45] <shroomduke> LSB Version:	core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-ia32:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-ia32:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-ia32:security-4.1-noarch
[20:45] <shroomduke> that looks like too much information
[20:46] <k1l> shroomduke: you dont need an xorg.conf. ubuntu makes that automatically. just for some special settings you need a xorg.conf. and then you can just name a textfile xorg.conf and save it there
[20:47] <irGautvol> vanishing I had to disable compiz before (on some previous version). Now I seem to have to use it. where can I look for that old setting. maybe?
[20:47] <pankid> what does it mean if ubuntu does not detect any proprietary drivers for my Nvidia gtx 560ti? Is my card defective? I can not get the drivers to work under arch either
[20:47] <usr13> pankid: lspci |pastebinit  #And send us resulting URL
[20:49] <david38400>  I have recently switched from Linux Mint to Ubuntu 12.04 but can't play any videos...... it keeps saying a package is missing. Any help please?
[20:49] <irGautvol> cabuloso grep should be able to detect it for grub-install ? what is in grub settings?
[20:49] <shroomduke> i have an xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:52] <Pici> shroomduke: why do you think you need an xorg.conf?
[20:53] <platinov> hi)
[20:53] <usr13> david38400: What video player are you trying to use?
[20:55] <usr13> david38400: What package does "it" say it's missing?
[20:55] <nAn00k>     
[20:56] <Akiyama-san> Hi, since I have upgraded from 10.04(had no problem there) to 13.04 and now 13.10 (fresh install), my laptop (1GB ram) starts swapping/thrashing my disk when I reach 600MB~700MB of RAM used, like if it is completely full. It happens even with swap tuned off, but then the disk thrashes and the pc freezes like it has no more RAM available. Could someone give me a hand here please?
[20:57] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[20:57] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Ok.... well, why was swap turned off?
[20:57] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I just turned it off to test
[20:58] <Akiyama-san> to see if it was actually acting like there is no more ram
[20:58] <usr13> Akiyama-san: And why did you not stick with LTS, (if it were me, I would have upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04.  Did you do that and then move off to another version?)
[20:59] <Akiyama-san> I just downloaded the latest version, no special reason
[20:59] <usr13> Akiyama-san: How large is your swap partition?
[20:59] <Akiyama-san> usr13, 1GB swap, same size as ram
[20:59] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Ok very good.
[21:00] <usr13> Akiyama-san: But I'm not sure what this "thrashing" problem is.  Can you describe it in more detail?
[21:00] <david38400> I cant play any dvd in ubunto 12. Help please?
[21:01] <usr13> Akiyama-san: It is normal for the swap partition to be used and I am not sure what you mean about "thrashing".
[21:01] <zykotick9> !dvd | david38400
[21:01] <Akiyama-san> usr13, the disk starts to be read or written (I see it by the indication light) and takes a long time to stop
[21:01] <Akiyama-san> and when this happens the pc freezes or almost freezes
[21:02] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I know its normal to use swap, that's I deactivated it to test and discovered that the pc freezes when using more or less 65% of ram
[21:03] <Akiyama-san> like it is full
[21:03] <Akiyama-san> I have tried changing kernels and I have already messed up with /proc/sys/vm/... settings, but didn't help
[21:03] <usr13> Akiyama-san: When your PC freezes, it is normally due to system resources being over-taxed, or under-powered.  You might look into a memory upgrade.
[21:04] <maciej__> hello
[21:05] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I know, but what I mean is why it happens when my ram isn't full.It looks like it is not using it all.
[21:05] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Could also be that you have some bad RAM.  You can opt to run memtest on a reboot.  (Hold down shift key for boot options.)
[21:06] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I have already tested it, and tried to reproduce the problem on 10.04, didn't happen.
[21:06] <Akiyama-san> It just froze when I actually used all ram
[21:06] <shroomduke> when changing my touchpad settings on/off button blinks off then back on , touchpad is off even though button says on , sometimes touchpad settings disappear
[21:06] <usr13> Akiyama-san: 10.04 is EOL.  So you have 13.10 now?  Is it fully updated?
[21:07] <Akiyama-san> usr13, yep
[21:07] <usr13> Akiyama-san: You say  that you tried to reproduce it in 10.04?  Do you still have it installed?
[21:08] <Akiyama-san> usr13, not now, but I still have an live cd to test or install
[21:08] <Akiyama-san> usr13, one more thing
[21:08] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Are you using Unity?
[21:09] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I have tried to reproduce this when using 13.10 live cd, the same thing happens and my disk starts being read
[21:09] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Try xfce  ( sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop )
[21:09] <Akiyama-san> usr13, now I am using gnome. I have tried to change the desktop manger as I thought it could be unity's fault
[21:10] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I'll try it.
[21:10] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Ok, come back and let us know.  There is also lxde, (some like lxde, but I prefer xfce).
[21:12] <shroomduke> is there a way to check if video configuration is right?
[21:13] <usr13> shroomduke: xrandr will tell you your screensize resolution.
[21:13] <shroomduke> xrandr
[21:13] <usr13> yes
[21:13] <peyam> Hi, How do I show the keyboard layout on conky?
[21:15] <adamk> shroomduke: glxinfo will tell you if you have 3D acceleration.
[21:15] <shroomduke> cool adamk thanks
[21:16] <shroomduke> doh! glfxinfo not installed
[21:16] <usr13> glxinfo
[21:16] <shroomduke> typo
[21:16] <shroomduke> glxinfo not installed
[21:17] <adamk> So install it...
[21:17] <usr13> sudo apt-get install glxinfo
[21:17] <adamk> It's part of mesa-utils...
[21:17] <adamk> Shouldn't bash tell you that when you try to run the program?
[21:18] <usr13> apt-cache search glxinfo outputs:  mesa-utils - Miscellaneous Mesa GL utilities
[21:19] <shroomduke> yea, it does
[21:19] <usr13> There you go  :)
[21:19] <shroomduke> i'm a little slow sometimes
[21:19] <usr13> i'm a little fast sometimes
[21:19] <shroomduke> need to put on my glasses
[21:19] <shroomduke> I gots lots to learn about linux
[21:20] <usr13> That's the fun part.
[21:20] <supNow> My server crashed, so I copied the files to a windows machine and then used the windows machine to put them back into the new shares on the server, however now there is no 'owner' to these files and folders. How can I easily change the ower & permissions of these?
[21:20] <shroomduke> LOL it would be if I knew someone else who knew anything about computers or ubuntu
[21:20] <supNow> ubuntu server 13.10
[21:21] <shroomduke> yikes
[21:21] <Smanetta> ciao
[21:22] <deezed> supNow: you could see this: http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Entendento-o-comando-chown
[21:22] <supNow> shroomduke, what eveactly are you trying to check with your video? Are you trying to see if the right driver is being used or something else?
[21:22] <shroomduke> glxinfo gives me too much info
[21:22] <deezed> let me see if i find something in english
[21:23] <shroomduke> it seems sluggish
[21:23] <usr13> shroomduke: Ok, you want 755 for directories and 644 for files.
[21:23] <deezed> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/chown.1.html
[21:23] <shroomduke> upgraded to 13.10 and it's slow
[21:23] <adamk> shroomduke: Use a service like http://pastebin.com/ to show us the results of the command.
[21:23] <supNow> thank you deezed
[21:23] <usr13> supNow: Ok, you want 755 for directories and 644 for files.
[21:23] <tbx> setname
[21:24] <usr13> supNow: So you can change all to 644 and then go back and set directories to 755
[21:24] <supNow> so I use chown to assign ownership then chmod for permissions? does -R work for both commands to assign to all subdirectories?
[21:24] <deezed> supNow: you are welcome. what you want is to chown these
[21:24] <usr13> supNow: Change Permissions to directories only: "find . -type d -print | xrags chmod 755"
[21:25] <usr13> supNow: Change Permissions to files only:  "find . -type f -print | xargs chmod 644"
[21:25] <supNow> awesome thanks guys!
[21:25] <deezed> usr13: but maybe just chown would do it, right?
[21:25] <usr13> supNow: chown is for ownership, chmod is for file permissions.
[21:27] <deezed> supNow: I think what you want is to change only the ownership. Anyway, try it first and see if it works out
[21:27] <sam113101> "No manual entry for zsh"
[21:27] <sam113101> what the hell is wrong with my man pages?
[21:27] <usr13> supNow: Yes, ownership: chown -R supNow /path/to/files/directories/as/needed
[21:27] <sam113101> zsh is installed, I'm using it right now
[21:28] <deezed> sam113101: I also dont have this manual.
[21:28] <sam113101> deezed: but zsh is installed?
[21:28] <JoshuaP> How do I set chmod on all subdirectories and files in a directory?
[21:28] <usr13> supNow: Sorry, I just now realized I was answering wrong question. You wanted to change ownership.  Sorry.
[21:28] <pankid> joshhunt, it should be the -R argument?
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> sam113101: zsh-doc might have it..
[21:28] <pankid> joshhunt, for recursive
[21:28] <deezed> sam113101: there are a lot of installed softwares here that dont have it....
[21:29] <TheLordOfTime> but zsh *should* have a manpage...
[21:29] <genii> JoshuaP: It begs the question of why you feel it necessary to do so
[21:29] <deezed> genii: good one
[21:29] <supNow> usr13, All good I just fixed it and used your trick for something else!
[21:29] <deezed> supNow: =)
[21:29] <usr13> JoshuaP: supNow Be careful where you do it.
[21:29] <supNow> deezed, thanks for that link I just used google translate and chown --help
[21:29] <sam113101> ;|
[21:29] <pankid> genii, fixing issues with a broadsword instead of a scalpel
[21:29] <deezed> supNow: cool!
[21:30] <sam113101> I swear I've read it on 13.04
[21:30] <JoshuaP> genii, because if a directory has subdirectories, I want to make the directory have access to the subdirectories
[21:30] <JoshuaP> Instead of going to EVERYTHING and doing it over and over
[21:30] <deezed> sam113101: you'r using 13.10?
[21:30] <sam113101> deezed: yes
[21:30] <supNow> usr13, they were just public shares for the local network and being I copied them back to the share from windows to ubuntu it had no owner so I couldn't set permissions. All is perfect now :)
[21:30] <usr13> JoshuaP: "make the directory have access to the subdirectories"?
[21:31] <shroomduke> glxinfo > glxinfo1.txt
[21:31] <sam113101> everything's broken on 13.10, seriously
[21:31] <usr13> supNow: Very good.  Glad we fixed it ;)
[21:31] <deezed> sam113101: maybe it can help you: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/zsh.1.html
[21:31] <usr13> sam113101: We are sorry you broke everything.
[21:31] <k1l> JoshuaP: chmod -R , but be aware of the results. it will  break alot if that is done on the wrong directory
[21:31] <usr13> sam113101: Maybe we can help you fix it.
[21:32] <deezed> sam113101: lol, i like the long extended support 12.04
[21:32] <yuzzi> a friend of mine got the Fibonacci sequence in a CAPTCHA: http://i.imgur.com/HdANjSV.jpg
[21:32] <usr13> JoshuaP: Take k1l's comment seriously.
[21:32] <deezed> yuzzi: what is that?
[21:32] <supNow> JoshuaP, just add -R after the path
[21:33] <deezed> which was the first thing pankid has said... =/
[21:33] <supNow> JoshuaP, for example 'chmod /home/user/folder/ -R
[21:33] <Nothing_Much> Does anybody here know how to get libhybris enabled on an arm version of Ubuntu?
[21:33] <yuzzi> Fibonacci sequence deezed.
[21:33] <supNow> JoshuaP, for example 'chmod 775 /home/user/folder/ -R'***
[21:33] <k1l> yuzzi: this channel is for technical support. i bet in #ubuntu-offtopic you will get more attention to this :)
[21:33] <sam113101> usr13: that would be great
[21:33] <shroomduke> ok i did a pastebin of my glxinfo
[21:34] <usr13> supNow: But that command won't do anything.
[21:34] <supNow> which won't?
[21:34] <photon> How can I redirect output starting with "ABC" to abc.txt, output starting with "DEF" to def.txt, etc with grep? I know how I can do it for filtering out one string, but not how to do it for multiple: program | grep "blah" > blah.txt
[21:34] <shroomduke> now do I post the url?
[21:34] <supNow> it just worked for me on both chown & chmod usr13
[21:34] <usr13> supNow: The "for example" one.  Never mind... ;)
[21:35] <supNow> -R makes it recursive so it applies to every subdirectory the same thing
[21:35] <supNow> ohh hahah I fixed it
[21:35] <shroomduke> it's so nice when things work right
[21:35] <usr13> supNow: I did not know you could use the -R switch at the end.  (Didn't know that would work.  Does it?)
[21:36] <supNow> it's so nice I got my entire office on Ubunut aside the boss and I am switching him over next week :)
[21:36] <supNow> usr13, indeed it does!!!
[21:36] <Nothing_Much> Does anybody here know how to get libhybris enabled on an arm version of Ubuntu?
[21:36] <shroomduke> how are they taking it supNow
[21:36] <supNow> just make sure the r is an R capitol
[21:36] <deezed> supNow: nice
[21:36] <shroomduke> no rebellion ?
[21:37] <supNow> shroomduke, most of them love it cause it don't break like windows and some complain at first cause it's different but when they get used to it they see the advantages
[21:37] <deezed> Nothing_Much: which arm btw?
[21:37] <pbx> photon - that's more of a shell scripting question than an ubuntu question, but since there's only one stdout i think you may need to write a script rather than using simple file redirection or piping
[21:37] <usr13> supNow: Ok, well, I've just never done it that way.  Thaks for the info.
[21:37] <Nothing_Much> deezed: exyonos5
[21:38] <supNow> shroomduke, it seems most of them prefer the gnome desktop over unity (I also find it more productive and find compiz buggy for any version past 9)
[21:38] <usr13> supNow: Good for you!
[21:38] <deezed> Nothing_Much: sorry, I dont know man.
[21:38] <usr13> supNow: I use xfce
[21:38] <ragusource> hey guys, on a ubuntu box, i have some iptables rules enabled, how do i go about switching to use ufw instead?
[21:38] <shroomduke> I can't stand using windows anymore , ack!
[21:39] <Nothing_Much> deezed: Libhybris?
[21:39] <deezed> supNow: true.
[21:39] <Nothing_Much> Oh wait
[21:39] <Nothing_Much> It's a power
[21:39] <shroomduke> I like linux but get tired of reading
[21:39] <deezed> Nothing_Much: ?
[21:39] <Nothing_Much> Powervr SGX544
[21:40] <deezed> shroomduke: lol, you look so desapointed
[21:40] <pbx> supNow - nice work. if you get any pushback you could assign this reading on the risks of running windows: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Top-Ten-Most-Destructive-Computer-Viruses.html
[21:40] <Nothing_Much> is there an ubuntu arm channel?
[21:41] <Nothing_Much> maybe I can get an answer there?
[21:41] <usr13> ragusource: I suppose you could use two different firewall scripts.  I don't see hwy not.  But you could also just append your rules to the end of ufw's script, (dont throw your old file away untill you are sure it doesn't delete them, just take away the executable bit for now.)
[21:41] <pankid> so I just did a clean install of ubuntu and my screen goes black after grub
[21:41] <pankid> any suggestions?
[21:42] <pankid> the live cd seemed to work ok
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Pancakez
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> pankid: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[21:42] <ragusource> usr13: I don't want to use two, I would like to convert my iptables rules to ufw rules.
[21:42] <Nothing_Much> does ubuntu arm exist?
[21:42] <ragusource> usr13: I'm not sure how to do it though.
[21:42] <Nothing_Much> or #ubuntu arm?
[21:42] <wilee-nilee> pankid, er see the message to Pancakez
[21:42] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I'm back. Xfce is already installed and I'm going to see if that happens there too.
[21:42] <usr13> ragusource: You have a firewall script.  Right?
[21:42] <usr13> ragusource: Just chmod -x it
[21:43] <shroomduke> bbl
[21:43] <pbx> Nothing_Much - i'd start here: http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> Nothing_Much: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[21:43] <ragusource> usr13: I have some rules in /etc/iptables/rules.v4
[21:43] <pbx> or there :)
[21:43] <Nothing_Much> no ubuntu-arm?
[21:44] <Nothing_Much> oh wait
[21:44] <Nothing_Much> it does exist!
[21:44] <platinov> good night)
[21:44] <usr13> ragusource: Ok, well once you get ufw doing what you want it to do, take what you need from your old firewall script and incorporate it into ufw's
[21:45] <platinov> D
[21:45] <usr13> ragusource: Or just leave it alone and do additional ones with ufw
[21:45] <ragusource> usr13: i also installed iptables-persistent
[21:45] <usr13> ragusource: supto-u
[21:45] <ragusource> just wondering if they will conflict
[21:45] <usr13> ragusource: Don't think so.
[21:46] <MeanKitty> Hey guys, I'm just wondering - imagine that you might in the future suffer a complete memory loss - what would you do to still have access to your (master)password? Is there any good method to recreate a password which doesn't rely on your memory?
[21:46] <platinov> i go sleep)
[21:46] <usr13> ragusource: Even if you have a rule duplicated, the second one just doesn't do anything.
[21:46] <ragusource> usr13: cool, let me try it
[21:46] <deezed> MeanKitty: good question
[21:47] <usr13> MeanKitty: Are you talking about use of gnome-keyring?
[21:47] <MeanKitty> usr13: I'm talking in general. I use an encrypted drive with all my other passwords, however I still need to remember one.
[21:48] <MeanKitty> When my memory is gone, I'm in a big trouble :)
[21:48] <usr13> ragusource: You can just comment out in your old firewall script as you work them in to ufw. Make sure they all work and then just dissable your old script once you've done them all.
[21:49] <MeanKitty> So that's why I want to know if there is a good way to create a password that I can recreate any time, for example
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> MeanKitty, Ask yourself do you really need encryption.
[21:49] <usr13> MeanKitty: The last 5 words in your statement sums it up.
[21:50] <supNow> pbx, the higher ups had many issues with viruses,spyware that I ended up cleaning out sometiems once a week so I switched them first and after them seeing the results it enabled me to enforce it on the rest. The boss is always the last to turn in these situations I find... lol
[21:50] <supNow> that being said he (boss) has had it on his home computer for most of the year and I havn't had to repair it since.
[21:50] <MeanKitty> wilee-nilee: Well, not really, but on the other hand I don't like the idea of other people going through my data
[21:50] <usr13> MeanKitty: "I still need to remember one"
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> MeanKitty, How are other people going to go through your data?
[21:51] <MeanKitty> I was thinking about an algorithm that would recreate the password from certain inputs that only I can know
[21:51] <MeanKitty> but that I can verify any time
[21:51] <MeanKitty> and nobody else
[21:51] <usr13> MeanKitty: Write it down and tape it to the inside of your computer, or the bottom of your desk or keyboard or kidney.
[21:52] <kostkon> MeanKitty, your password should be... "password"
[21:52] <supNow> p455w0rd
[21:52] <MeanKitty> e.g. biometric-related data, somethign like that
[21:53] <usr13> panotgonnasayrd
[21:53] <usr13> panononowd
[21:53] <MeanKitty> oh come on :P
[21:54] <MeanKitty> I'm serious here
[21:54] <MeanKitty> you all can have a car crash tomorrow and might not remember a thing
[21:54] <usr13> All work and no play makes ubuntu-user a dull boy.
[21:54] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I have reproduced the same problem on xfce. My laptop haven't froze, but there were hard lock-ups
[21:54] <MeanKitty> beter prepare for this possibility
[21:54] <kostkon> MeanKitty, the best device/storage system/algorithmic machine etc is your brain. pick a difficult to guess password and remember it
[21:54] <usr13> Akiyama-san: memtesty
[21:54] <usr13> Akiyama-san: memtest
[21:54] <MeanKitty> kostkon: but there is a potential memory loss involved
[21:54] <Akiyama-san> usr13, have done it already, no problems
[21:55] <MeanKitty> so I can't rely just on my memory
[21:55] <MeanKitty> and I can't write it down
[21:55] <MeanKitty> that would be unsafe
[21:55] <kostkon> MeanKitty, same can be said for any device you'll choose to storage or calculate your pass
[21:55] <ianorlin> safe deposit box
[21:55] <creek> why does my files from a fat32 drive give me invalid argument when trying to cp them to my utf-8 system? Is it due to the OEM encoding that old microsoft stuff use?
[21:55] <kostkon> store*
[21:55] <Dmole> anyone know how to get a VirtualBox server out of the "guru meditation" state?
[21:55] <MeanKitty> kostkon: not unless the inputs are only known by me and the device is relatively safe and secure
[21:55] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I believe that something important involving ram have changed from 10.04 to this newer versions
[21:56] <OerHeks> Dmole ping it ?
[21:56] <Akiyama-san> usr13, from all I have tested, I believe it's a ubuntu system's fault
[21:57] <kostkon> MeanKitty, ask yourself. which one is easier to remember: one password or myriads of "inputs" that will help you to calculate your pass using a algorithm that you'll also need to remember or at least write down on paper and then remember where you have put that etc
[21:57] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Don't know what to tell you.  (Many other users are doing ok, so not sure what to tell you.)  I will tell you this though.  I am an LTS user.  One that upgrades only in the last month or two before EOL and I do it because I am lazy and because I like cutting edge, (as opposed to bleeding edge), but that is just one ubuntu-user's opinion.
[21:58] <Dmole> OerHeks: nope
[21:58] <MeanKitty> kostkon: The thing is that I can't remember anything. I should be able to provide the required inputs though. Only I should know them but I can't rely on my memory.
[21:59] <MeanKitty> It's just mindblowing
[21:59] <MeanKitty> there may be no good solution
[21:59] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Do a memory upgrade. (As I said before, it will more-than-likely fix your problem.)
[21:59] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I know, that's why I have been on 10.04 so much time. I think I'll try another distribution to see if this happens, since it's the only thing makes sense to me
[21:59] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I think I may buy another laptop, this one here is far too old.
[21:59] <kostkon> MeanKitty, there isn't
[22:00] <Akiyama-san> usr13, but thanks anyway.
[22:00] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Could you summarize the problem for those of us who have not been following it?
[22:00] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Here is the way it works;  If you look at any linux distribution from 5 years ago and compare it to now, you will see a huge difference in the amount of system resources it takes to run it.  Same with any other OS.
[22:00] <MeanKitty> kostkon: then we are all screwed :P
[22:00] <kostkon> MeanKitty, human and digital memory both are volatile, you can't really rely on them 100%
[22:00] <MeanKitty> forget your accounts
[22:01] <usr13> Akiyama-san: There is a threshold.
[22:01] <MeanKitty> you can keep backups of your drive but not of your brain....
[22:01] <OerHeks> MeanKitty, how is this related to ubuntu support?
[22:01] <Akiyama-san> usr13, yeah
[22:01] <kostkon> MeanKitty, that's true but even the backups can fail
[22:01] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, just a sec
[22:01] <usr13> Akiyama-san: Once you reach that threshold, you will have an over-taxed system, just below it you are ok, above it, you are in the mud.
[22:01] <MeanKitty> OerHeks: it's not, sorry about that :P
[22:02] <Eth0R3> heyo
[22:02] <reisio> 'lo
[22:02]  * jhutchins_wk frequently runs current Linux on older hardware with excellent results.
[22:02] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, since I have upgraded from 10.04(had no problem there) to 13.04 and now 13.10 (fresh install), my laptop (1GB ram) starts swapping/thrashing my disk when I reach 600MB~700MB of RAM used, like if it is completely full. It happens even with swap tuned off, but then the disk thrashes and the pc freezes like it has no more RAM available.
[22:03] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Is that ram being used by the video system?
[22:03] <Akiyama-san> I believe not, my laptop have an Intel integrated one, and there is no options about shared ram on bios.
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: If it is, it should not report the full 1G in top or free.
[22:04] <usr13> Akiyama-san: One other detail you may not be aware of.  If you trun off swap, (quit using a swap partition), what happens then is you start using a swap file.  So ..... it stands to reason you wont see much difference in performance, (and you certainly won't see better performance).
[22:04] <bekks> Akiyama-san: free -m will show you how much RAM you have.
[22:04] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: I would suggest trying 12.04 just to see if there is a difference.
[22:04] <bekks> Akiyama-san: This means: It will show you how much RAM can be used by the OS.
[22:05] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, from what I see, by using free -m and htop this rest of ram is full with filesystem cache
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Also, rather than installing the full system with gnome, then falling back to xfce, you could try an xfce-only system.  xfce will sometimes load large portions of gnome.
[22:05] <usr13> Akiyama-san: The simple solution is a memory upgrade.
[22:05] <bekks> Akiyama-san: And using swapiness=60 (which is the default), the system will start swapping when 60% of the usable RAM is actually used.
[22:05] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: By default that's pretty much what linux does, use anything not used by programs for cache - but that should not cause swapping.
[22:05] <Akiyama-san> usr13, I think so
[22:06] <bekks> Akiyama-san: Setting it down to 10 will lower that problem pretty much.
[22:06] <usr13> Akiyama-san: How long did you let memtest run?
[22:06] <Akiyama-san> bekks, I have changed swap to everything possible, did not help
[22:06] <bekks> Akiyama-san: I am not talkijng about swap. I am talking about the kernel value vm.swappiness
[22:06] <Akiyama-san> usr13, normal time
[22:06] <usr13> Akiyama-san: What is normal time?  (In hours)
[22:07] <pankid> lol
[22:07] <Akiyama-san> bekks, sorry, i have meant swappiness
[22:07] <pankid> Akiyama-san, a lot of people run memtest for a full 24 hours
[22:07] <usr13> Akiyama-san: memtest is not 100%, (does not always discover bad RAM).
[22:07] <Gadaffi> u know what i like
[22:07] <Gadaffi> buttsex and missles and communism
[22:08] <Gadaffi> ill put my missle in your communism
[22:08] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: 13.x has some things going on that might contribute to the problem, 12.04 is LTS.
[22:08] <jamesmcweeaboo> I like jews
[22:08] <Gadaffi> if u know what i mean...
[22:08] <reisio> don't we all
[22:08] <Akiyama-san> usr13, i do not remember exactly, but i believe 2 or 3 hours
[22:08] <jamesmcweeaboo> fun tont
[22:08] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Have you tried turning swap off?
[22:08] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, yeah
[22:09] <Swagmaster9000> I am god
[22:09] <Gadaffi> KILL THE DAMN JEWS!!!!!!!!!
[22:09] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Ok, presumably the system no longer swapped, what else happened?
[22:09] <bekks> !ops | Gadaffi
[22:09] <Gadaffi> ALLAH HUAKBAR!!!
[22:09] <Swagmaster9000> Fuck jews, kill them with fire
[22:09] <FiremanEd> !op
[22:09] <platinov> god give me good comupter D
[22:10] <Swagmaster9000> Shrek is love, Shrek is life
[22:10] <elky> Swagmaster9000: please behave.
[22:10] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, like I said, the disk light indicator turns on (so the disk is being either writing or reading) and it freezes like there is no more ram available
[22:10] <Gadaffi> JEWISH COW! I LOVE TO KILL THEM
[22:10] <MeanKitty> some people don't realize IRC isn't anonymous
[22:11] <reisio> Gadaffi: that'd be 'cowS'
[22:11] <Gadaffi> no
[22:11] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, when I was using 10.04 the same happen when I used all 1GB of ram with no swap
[22:11] <Jebus> PRAISE JEBUS!
[22:11] <Jebus> PRAISE JEBUS!
[22:11] <Jebus> PRAISE JEBUS!
[22:11] <FloodBot1> Jebus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <reisio> some people don't realize you can get up and go outside
[22:12] <jubale> Is Gnome's "key ring" data safely stored?
[22:12] <ragusource> usr13: I think I got it ported over, thank you for your assistance.
[22:12] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, the problem is that this happens now while using 700MB of ram and no swap
[22:12] <Nothing_Much> Anybody know how to get libhybris to work on an Ubuntu desktop?
[22:12] <bekks> Akiyama-san: When setting swappiness - how did you activate the new value?
[22:13] <k1l> Nothing_Much: last time you asked it was on arm
[22:13] <k1l> Nothing_Much: please ask in the arm channel for arm specific questions.
[22:13] <Akiyama-san> bekks, I have done it either by changing /etc/sysctl.conf and by echo xx > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[22:13] <Nothing_Much> k1l: Yeah, I'm gonna keep asking about that until I get some response because #libhybris and #ubuntu-arm are dead :(
[22:14] <Nothing_Much> I'd ping somebody, but I'm not sure who's afk and who isn't.
[22:14] <bekks> Akiyama-san: Changning /etc/sysctl.conf will stay without effect until issueing sudo sysctl -a
[22:14] <bekks> Akiyama-san: Sorry, sysctl -p
[22:14] <Akiyama-san> bekks, yeah, i know
[22:14] <bekks> Akiyama-san: And after setting that value, you should deactivate swap, reactivate it, and flush caches before.
[22:14] <bekks> Akiyama-san: Otherwise, you wont get usable results.
[22:15] <k1l> Nothing_Much: that is not the right intention to just ask aynwhere because somewhere else no one answers. please ask in that related channels. but be aware that its not a common easy task you want to do. so keep in mind to read into that topic yourself
[22:15] <Akiyama-san> bekks, I don't think my problem is with swappiness, since it happens also when swap is disabled.
[22:16] <Nothing_Much> k1l: Alright then, sorry about that
[22:16] <Akiyama-san> bekks, either way, when like 800MB of ram is used, the system freezes until it can go back to 650MB at least
[22:17] <Akiyama-san> bekks, if there is not swap it just freezes, if there is swap, it swaps till that.
[22:19] <bekks> Akiyama-san: then you should set vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 too
[22:19] <bekks> Akiyama-san: That will leave your box alive, instead of killing it by swapping to death.
[22:20] <Akiyama-san> bekks, hum. I haven't tried that
[22:20] <bekks> Akiyama-san: In addition, try setting swappiness to 10 - both in /etc/sysctl.conf, deactivate swap, activate swap and runs sudo sysctl -p
[22:21] <Akiyama-san> bekks, ok
[22:22] <pankid> whenever I install proprietary driver for my nvidia gtx 560ti, i am unable to boot. I just get a black screen after grub
[22:25] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: That makes no sense.  How can it swap when swap is disabled?
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Ok, you appear to be saying it freezes.
[22:26] <Akiyama-san> bekks, did not help. When used ram reached 70%, disk crazily started reading/writing, and system froze for 3 minutes
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: I concur with the earlier suggestion that you may have some bad ram.
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> pankid, The advice here is use the open source from the ubuntu repos if there is one.
[22:27] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, what I do not understand is that, when I had both 13.10 and 10.04 installed, this happens on the first and not on the second
[22:27] <pankid> wilee-nilee, but they are way slower, and I had this same model card working in ubuntu, debian, and arch a few months ago
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: It could still be hardware.  Have you tried 12.04?
[22:27] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, and they were installed at the same time.
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> pankid, So what are we to say here the one you want has a black screen.
[22:28] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, I do not understand why a hardware fault would affect one software and not the other.
[22:28] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, I haven't tried it well. I'll download it.
[22:28] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, but when I have used 11.04 this happened too.
[22:28] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: I agree, you do not, but I don't think you need to understand, just accept the possibility.
[22:29] <moppy> what happened to UbuntuOne integration in 13.10 file manager?
[22:29] <moppy> How do I get it back?
[22:29] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Good data point, but 12.04 is LTS, the others (except 10.04) are not.
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> pankid, Pretty simple, you find someone who can wizard you to happiness or figure it out.
[22:29] <dominic_> why i dont see anything on my usb stick and when i look in properties i see 1.7 gig
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Was there some difficulty in adding ram to this system?  A motherboard limit?
[22:30] <reisio> dominic_: what're you expecting to see?
[22:30] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, I am downloading it, but due to my slow connection it will take like an hour.
[22:30] <zerowaitstate> dominic: in Nautilus (the default file manager in Ubuntu desktop) Ctrl-H will show hidden files (those starting with a dot)
[22:31] <dominic_> almost 0
[22:31] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, yeah. Old laptop, i do not find sodimm ddr1 around here anymore.
[22:31] <dominic_> reisio, almost 0
[22:31] <reisio> dominic_: pardon?
[22:33] <dominic_> zerowaitstate,  merci it works
[22:33] <zerowaitstate> dominic_: the command-line is ls -a
[22:34] <pankid> wilee-nilee, it would of been nice if you could of given me some suggestions of where to read how to resolve this issue instead of just telling me to avoid the issue entirely. Linux isn't doing what it should so go buy windows. I realize you are volunteering your time on this IRC, but you really should of just not said anything instead of telling me that you recommend the nouveau drivers, which dont utilize the graphics card I purchased
[22:34] <pankid> to it's full potential.
[22:35] <moppy> pankid, which gpu is this and what feature do you need from it?
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> pankid, This is support for what is in the ubuntu repos period.
[22:38] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: http://pricewatch.com - although I find Amazon.com just about as good.
[22:38] <zerowaitstate> pankid, regarding proprietary drivers, your best resource is the company that made them, i.e., Nvidia.  If the vendor closes their driver source there is very limited amount of help ubuntu guys can give you
[22:38] <pankid> moppy, gtx 560ti and I want to install the proprietary nvidia drivers in order to play games. The open source drivers have never been enough for me. I am done for today though. Thank you for your time.
[22:39] <zerowaitstate> pankid, most likely this is related to a kernel change, as the linux kernel ABI changes frequently.
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> pankid, If I need counseling I talk to the Clinical Psychologist I see not the web or a bartender.
[22:39] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, I just don't think it worths buying more ram to this laptop. I intend to buy a new one next year.
[22:39] <jhutchins_wk> You always have to recompile drivers when you change kernels.
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: I'm seeing ddr2 at about $8/G.
[22:40] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard.. any remedies?
[22:40] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, mine is ddr1
[22:40] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: ddr1 pc3200 1g registered $6.99
[22:41] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, wow, that looks cheap
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: Cheaper than the time & stress.
[22:42] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, send me that link
[22:42] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: http://www.pricewatch.com/system_memory/
[22:43] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: 2G is only 10.99, but 4G is 49.99
[22:43] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, my motherboard doesnt support more than 2G
[22:44] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: 2G is a very comfortable space for Linux.
[22:44] <jhutchins_wk> Akiyama-san: I am just now shopping to go to 4G because my network downloads are only 50% of speed.  (That, and maybe a new NIC.)
[22:45] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, I don't have this kind of problem with 2Mb internet connection
[22:45] <zerowaitstate> 2G is cozy.  4G is comfortable, at least for desktop
[22:46] <Akiyama-san> jhutchins_wk, and I would be happy if I could actually download at 200kbps
[22:46] <bekks> Akiyama-san: Saving me from reading the backlog - how was it going?
[22:46] <zerowaitstate> ubuntu likes my tasty RAM.  nom nom nom
[22:46] <esteth> Anyone know why my screen would go black after booting but before login?
[22:46] <esteth> I can't get TTYs either
[22:46] <Akiyama-san> bekks, downloading 12.04 at 22%
[22:47] <Akiyama-san> and going to have dinner nowm brb
[22:47] <bekks> Akiyama-san: So you had no luck testing my suggestion?
[22:47] <Akiyama-san> bekks, sadly did not help
[22:48] <bekks> Akiyama-san: That makes me curious - you were using 13.10, 1GB RAM and experienced the symptons described above with how much swap configured and the default swappiness?
[22:49] <zerowaitstate> laptop hard drives are crazy slow for swap btw
[22:50] <reisio> slow ones are, anyways
[22:50] <Akiyama-san> bekks, 1GB swap, various values for swappiness tried 10 -40 -60
[22:50] <Akiyama-san> bekks, same worked well on 10.04
[22:50] <jhutchins_wk> zerowaitstate: Many are only 5400 RPM.
[22:50] <zerowaitstate> yup
[22:50] <bekks> Akiyama-san: negative values for swappiness are undefined.
[22:51] <wilee-nilee> zerowaitstate, funny my ssd HD makes swapping seem invisible.
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> Yup, ssd.
[22:51] <zerowaitstate> yeah, i was talking about 5400
[22:51] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard.. any remedies?
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> wilee-nilee: If you're swapping to an ssd you have not spent your money wisely.
[22:51] <zerowaitstate> with ssd, you really want to be swappy
[22:52] <ianorlin> won't it wear out the drive?
[22:52] <reisio> XLV: it's hard to imagine having so many open simultaneously being a superior approach
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> ianorlin: Exactly.
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> zerowaitstate,your premise was laptops that is the faulty premise.
[22:52] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Even with SSD, you want RAM. So much much RAM that you dont swap at all.
[22:52] <reisio> ianorlin: good luck doing something with hardware that doesn't wear it out
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> at that's true
[22:52] <bekks> zerowaitstate: SSD are slower than RAM.
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> SSD also have a write limit to think about
[22:52] <ianorlin> there is zram
[22:52] <XLV> reisio superior? and so many? i am talking more than one
[22:52] <reisio> zerowaitstate: everything has
[22:52] <jhutchins_wk> XLV: Install linux on the control host.
[22:52] <reisio> XLV: ?
[22:52] <zerowaitstate> yeah, but I hear SSD's currently wear quicker
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> jhutchins_wk, That makes no sense, and you do not the context, your just blabbering. ;)
[22:53] <zerowaitstate> at least consumer drives
[22:53] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Write limit? Which one? Ther are tests ongoing pushing 6TB(!) to a SSD without issues.
[22:53] <XLV> reisio ?
[22:53] <bekks> zerowaitstate: So technically, there is a write limit, practically, you will never ever reach it.
[22:53] <reisio> XLV: yes?
[22:53]  * ianorlin thought the write limit was number of times you could write to the drive
[22:53] <XLV> reisio yeah, what exactly are you wondering about?
[22:54] <zerowaitstate> bekks: not on bandwidth, but there is a limited number of times a cell can be written to before that cell fails and becomes read-only.  That's why SSD's have wear-leveling
[22:54] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Yeas, as I said, there are tests ongoing exceeding these limits by far. Without issues.
[22:54] <zerowaitstate> bekks: on consumer drives like Samsung?
[22:54] <bekks> zerowaitstate: Yes.
[22:54] <zerowaitstate> cool!
[22:55] <zerowaitstate> didn't know that; I guess I'm behind.  That used to be a big deal
[22:55]  * patb has read lots to suggest that bekks is correct
[22:56] <patb> lol, only reading..........I have exactly ONE ssd, and it's holding up just fine after 3 years
[22:56] <bekks> Those limits were important on the very first SSD - which are older than 5 years now.
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> zerowaitstate: It's a little soon to commit singular data to a heavily-swapped ssd yet, but things are looking better.
[22:56] <bekks> jhutchins_wk: singular data are not worth to be kept ;)
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> zerowaitstate: I bougt a 60G instead of a 40G because it's a newer generation.
[22:56] <reisio> singular? :p
[22:57] <patb> right..........you don't get that acoustic "grinding" noise to warn you that a disk is about to go bad
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> bekks: Singular data being data that you do not (yet) have in more than one place.
[22:57] <moppy> no-one knows if the ubuntu one integration will return to file manager?
[22:58] <jhutchins_wk> moppy: I think no-one knows what you're talking about.
[22:58] <reisio> moppy: as long as ubuntu one endures, I'm sure it will
[22:58] <moppy> jhutchins_wk, you used to be able to right mouse in file manager and one of the options in the pop-up menu was to sync or share with ubuntu one. since 13.10 this has disappeared
[22:59] <zerowaitstate> Shuttleworth wantz ur filez
[22:59] <beandog> heh
[23:00] <zerowaitstate> pleez
[23:00] <moppy> jhutchins_wk, it's obviously a plug-in that they either dropped, or broke and didn't upgrade, or whatever ... but I did use it
[23:01] <moppy> although judging by the blank stares I guess i was the only one that did ;-)
[23:02] <faugusztin> moppy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/1196684
[23:03] <faugusztin> moppy: and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client-gnome/+bug/1232053
[23:03] <belkinsa> For some reason, today, Ubuntu 13.10 (that was upgraded from 13.04) stopped recognizing my USB mice.  Is this a bug or is there a fix to this.  The same issue is happening when I boot up Ubuntu 13.10 Live USB.
[23:03] <moppy> faugusztin, thank you for the information
[23:03] <faugusztin> belkinsa: did you rules out hardware error ?
[23:03] <faugusztin> *ruled
[23:04] <dalkeehon> hi and sorry to bother but since i've updated to 13.10 i'm having 2 issues with ubuntu
[23:04] <dalkeehon> and maybe you can help me
[23:04] <OY1R> q: in ubuntu 8.04 i had a one button shortcut, (Windows button opened a terminal window) how can i do the same in 10.04 ?
[23:04] <belkinsa> Yes, I'm using my Wacom tablet and it's pen.  Anything mouse like doesn't work
[23:04] <ianorlin> belkinsa does it show up in lsusb
[23:04] <moppy> belkinsa, is this when you switch from tablet to mouse, or when powering up with *only* mouse connected?
[23:05] <belkinsa> Both
[23:05] <dalkeehon> everytime i log in i get several error messages and i don't know how to fix it, plus i have issues with audio, this link relatively fixed the bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[23:05] <moppy> belkinsa, and silly question: have you verified the mouse is alive?
[23:05] <belkinsa> Yes.
[23:05] <dalkeehon> but still i need to log.relog every time i want to use my audio...
[23:05] <intrader> Anyone, my SCHELL variable is /bin/bash. How is it that the command export is not accepted?
[23:06] <SolarNight> someone please help me find a room
[23:06] <discipolo> is there a bot in here?
[23:06] <dalkeehon> noone ?
[23:06] <dalkeehon> :(
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 04f2:b209 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 056a:00b8 Wacom Co., Ltd Intuos4 4x6
[23:07] <FloodBot1> belkinsa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <belkinsa> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hu
[23:07] <k1l> belkinsa: please use a paste service like the bot told you
[23:07] <dalkeehon> noone can gimme a hand?
[23:08] <belkinsa> What is your question?
[23:08] <dalkeehon> everytime i log in i get several error messages and i don't know how to fix it, plus i have issues with audio, this link relatively fixed the bug http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[23:08] <dalkeehon>  but still i need to log.relog every time i want to use my audio...
[23:08] <dalkeehon> since 13.10
[23:08] <belkinsa> Have you tired a fresh install?
[23:08] <jason_hudson> Hello everyone! I'd like to know if it's possible to have the .config file for the Ubuntu's generic kernel, is that available anywhere?
[23:09] <jason_hudson> *possible to find, pardon
[23:09] <reisio> jason_hudson: no doubt
[23:09] <reisio> jason_hudson: did you try zcat /proc/config.gz ?
[23:09] <dalkeehon> i'm trying to fix it without needing to fresh install
[23:09] <jason_hudson> reisio, nope, I'm trying it right now.
[23:10] <belkinsa> I think sometimes, fresh installing fixes issues better.
[23:10] <jason_hudson> reisio, no such file or directory, what am I missing?
[23:10] <intrader> Anyone, sorry, my mistake, my SHELL variable is /bin/bash. How is it that the command export is not accepted?
[23:10] <reisio> belkinsa: magicks
[23:10] <patb> jason_hudson, have a look in /boot............there are matched tuples of config+init.rd+System.map+vmlinuz
[23:10] <reisio> jason_hudson: something :)
[23:11] <jason_hudson> patb, that's it, thank you!
[23:11] <jason_hudson> That was so trivial I'm almost embarassed I had to ask.
[23:12] <Kromaz> just had a electrical surge. can that have any effects on a ext4 file system?
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> intrader: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:12] <reisio> Kromaz: sure
[23:12] <faugusztin> Kromaz: what do you mean ? you are asking about effects of unexpected reboot ?
[23:13] <Kromaz> yes the pc shut off unexpected
[23:14] <Kromaz> should I run any test to make sure the file system is clean?
[23:14] <reisio> Kromaz: my advice is to wait for a problem before you try to fix one
[23:15] <faugusztin> Kromaz: if you booted fine, it didn't complain at boot, then it is fine
[23:16] <Kromaz> okay many thanks reisio  & faugusztin
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> Kromaz: to put it easily: there's about a million different things that "could" have happened, but the likeliness of any one of those things actually happening are astronomically tiny. So anyone telling you anything specific world just be a waste. as the lads said. Wait for something to break rather than fix what might not be broken.
[23:20] <Guest61411> i can not get audio through HDMI. i have installed pavcontroll and hdmi is visible there and when i set rhythmbox to use hdmi out the sound just disappears but the peak meter indicates it sends audio out. i have also installed the pulse audio dev package with no luck (13.10 64bit)
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> Guest61411: what's the output of: lspci
[23:21] <Kromaz> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[23:22] <Guest61411> http://pastebin.com/RH2FRy12
[23:22] <qbmaniac> hey guys
[23:22] <qbmaniac> having a bit of trouble...
[23:22] <qbmaniac> two machines on same network/subnet, one windows and one ubuntu, I CAN ping the windows machine from ubuntu but not the other way round
[23:22] <qbmaniac> Any ideas?
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> Guest61411: what's the output of: aplay -l
[23:23] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: firewall ?
[23:23] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I disabled ufw
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> qbmaniac: how are you pinging? by IP or name?
[23:23] <qbmaniac> ip
[23:23] <qbmaniac> (just in case dns resolution was issue, but it is not)
[23:24] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: and if you try iptables -L are your chains empty ?
[23:24] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I get quite a large output
[23:24] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: then your firewall is still running
[23:24] <qbmaniac> can't scoll up (terminal, no GUI)
[23:25] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I thought sudo ufw disable did the trick
[23:25] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: with firewall turned off you should get 6 lines of text (with 2 more empty lines inbetween)
[23:25] <qbmaniac> Is it possible I have another firewall installed?
[23:25] <Guest61411> http://pastebin.com/hcjf4y4K
[23:25] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: isn't it "sudo service ufw stop" or something like that ?
[23:26] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: says it is already stopped
[23:26] <Guest61411> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/hcjf4y4K
[23:26] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: ah, it seems not hm... well, your rules are still there for some reason
[23:26] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: any easy way to kill all rules?
[23:26] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: what does sudo ufw status say ?
[23:26] <qbmaniac> Status: inactive
[23:27] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: and please give us iptables -L | pastebinit
[23:27] <qbmaniac> just a sec
[23:27] <Guest61411> hitsujiTMO: hdmi is not even present in the stock volume control
[23:29] <axtheb> Hello. After updating to saucy my keyboard is not working as it was. I use english + czech UCW keyboard, and UCW has only accented letters. I had it set to switch while alt is pressed, but I cannot find that setting anymore. Anyone knows how to set it that way?
[23:29] <qbmaniac> paste.ubuntu.com/6379106/
[23:29] <qbmaniac> sorry
[23:29] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6379106/
[23:30] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: a bit of background on the issue. I was on a 192.168.15.0/24 subnet and moved to 192.168.1*
[23:30] <Hilikus> i lost all my network connections from the Network Manager. how can i recreate them?
[23:30] <Hilikus> i also lost connectivity
[23:30] <Hilikus> if i do ifconfig eth0 i see the device
[23:30] <Hilikus> but there's no IP
[23:30] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: i don't see any rules which would prevent the ping going through, hm...
[23:31] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: so I can't connect to that server now from any computer. I tried adding rules in ufw to allow from anything in 192.168.1*, then I changed my.cnf to bind to my new address
[23:31] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I would have thought that was it
[23:31] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: maybe your routing is messed up ?
[23:31] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: may pastebining my network/interfaces file help?
[23:32] <qbmaniac> just to verify I have no glaring mistakes in my static wlan0 settings
[23:32] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: so network connectivity from the ubuntu machine is fine, but network connectivity to the ubuntu machine is not working at all - no ssh, http etc
[23:32] <qbmaniac> exactly faugusztin
[23:33] <qbmaniac> in the ubuntu machine I could pastebinit after all :P
[23:33] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: can you rpovide output of route -n ?
[23:33] <qbmaniac> yes
[23:33] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6379137/
[23:34] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: hm, why do you have two gateway interfaces against wlan0 ? o_O
[23:34] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: and is your gateway 192.168.1.254 ? :O
[23:34] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: not quite sure, I figure my network/interfaces file must be a bit messed up...
[23:35] <qbmaniac> Well... my router's IP is that one
[23:35] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: how can I "pastebinit" the output from my interfaces file?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> Guest61411: if it's showing up in alsa but not in the audio control then its most likely pulse where the issue is, which is something i'm not familiar with unfortunately
[23:35] <qbmaniac> or in other words, what command "echos" the output of a file
[23:36] <Guest61411> hitsujiTMO: ok thank you
[23:36] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: cat /filename | pastebinit
[23:36] <qbmaniac> ah, cat, that was the one, thanks :P
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> qbmaniac: or you can simply: pastebinit /filename
[23:36] <MoPac> Howdy. I'm having a really hard time getting thumbnails for any image type to display in Nautilus. For some reason, they seem to show up when I'm browsing as root, though. Any ideas?
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> MoPac: try installing gnome-tweak-tool and resetting your icon theme
[23:39] <MoPac> Thanks; will tr
[23:39] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: just a quick check - your internal network IP address range doesn't conflict with your provider IP address range ? What i mean that sometimes providers give you a device which itself provides DHCP functionality and if it is in same range as your network, it can end up with bad routing somewhere on the way
[23:40] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: sudo pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces is hanging for some unknown reason
[23:41] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I believe my router assigns DHCP in the range of 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.250
[23:41] <qbmaniac> with the router's address being 192.168.1.254
[23:42] <wafflejock> Hi all ran into a minor glitch but looking for a bit of direction for where to start debugging/fixing the issue.  Basically I'm trying to get my external mic (plugged in) working with Google Hangouts (or anything for that matter arecord is giving the same behavior as hangouts, just fuzz)
[23:42] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: no, i mean that some (bad) providers would give your router a WAN IP address of 192.168.1.2 for example :)
[23:42] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: and if that happens, you can imagine the mess in routing when WAN network is in same IP range as LAN network
[23:42] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: yep, I can imagine, but I'm not actually sure of what WAN address it has
[23:43] <wafflejock> running Kubuntu 13.04 I have tried all the alsamixer settings wondering how I can go about possibly re-installing alsa... it looks like steam has put a bunch of alsa config files in place but haven't dug into those yet to get details
[23:43] <wafflejock> Hangouts previously worked with this mic on this computer so I suspect a software update botched it though I can't be for sure it's steam
[23:43] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: well, you can check it, usually it is on status page of router. and please check that the windows pc has same gateway netmask as your linux pc
[23:43] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6379177/
[23:43] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I do realise I left a PSK key in there, but fortunately, that router has been destroyed :P
[23:44] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: shall do, just a sec
[23:44] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: windows machine has same gateway. output from ipconfig is IP: 192.168.1.131, Subnet: Typical, Gateway: 192.168.1.254
[23:46] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: well, there is one thing you could try - disable the wlan0 interface and set up the eth0 interface with exactly the same configuration,minus  the wireless stuff. if it will work with ethernet, then you hit some nasty wlan issue
[23:47] <colonolGron> hi
[23:47] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: WAN IP is (fortunately) in a completely different range so no problem there.
[23:48] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: understood, was hoping to avoid this as I am far from an ethernet connection, heh.
[23:49] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: Are these two lines alright, considering my SSID is "default" and I have no password: wireless-essid default ; wireless-mode managed
[23:49] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: this is a server ? you could try to connect via networkamanger if you run gui
[23:50] <xstefen> Hi. In 13.10 [Lubuntu to be exact], I am unable to ping local machines, windows or linux, by netbios/hostname. Only with IP address. smb and everything else works, ive installed winbind and did all nsswitch and smb.conf edits that ive done on every ubuntu box in the past. but i cannot get 'ping pcname' to work at all now
[23:50] <qbmaniac> it is a server, ubuntu server 13
[23:50] <qbmaniac> I have not installed a GUI to avoid the machine slowing down
[23:50] <qbmaniac> Is there a minimal GUI I could use without it "autostarting" just to get at network-manager ?
[23:51] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: you do realize that you could just disable the gdm/lightdm service (depending on what DM you install)
[23:51] <qbmaniac> I know, I've done that before
[23:51] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: so the only thing you lose is disk space when you actually don't run X
[23:51] <qbmaniac> but unity, for example, comes with so much rubbish
[23:51] <qbmaniac> so even if I uninstall, I've already got copies of open office lying about that I'll never touch
[23:51] <qbmaniac> I mean, not uninstall, just disable
[23:52] <tibor> hi guys, is there a way to configure a preseed file so that apt gets ubuntu from a proxy? I use apt-cacher-ng and I usually just need to add a 01proxy file to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ … but I need it for preseed.
[23:52] <wafflejock> qbmaniac: can go with something like XFCE
[23:52] <workstation> hi
[23:52] <wafflejock> qbmaniac: did that on my AWS server just to have an interface for when I want it
[23:52] <qbmaniac> thanks wafflejock, I'll try xfce then
[23:53] <qbmaniac> I thought there was something lighter though, I remember using slackware once with a minimal interface that weighed less than 20mb
[23:53] <wafflejock> qbmaniac: maybe TWM or Awesome not sure haven't played with those
[23:54] <resure> Menubar is often freezing, is there any workarounds/fixes?
[23:54] <resure> *menubar in ubuntu 13.19
[23:54] <wafflejock> resure: not a valid version 13.10?
[23:55] <resure> **13.10
[23:55] <wafflejock> do you mean the launcher or just application menus?
[23:56] <resure> wafflejock: http://i.imgur.com/FNd0liZ.png this part
[23:56] <johnjohn101> anyway to get the issue # for this?  i have been affected http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-13-10-Hit-by-Annoying-Unity-Freezing-Bug-397907.shtml
[23:56] <wafflejock> resure: k I'm not sure just trying to help get more info out there in case someone can help... I've moved to Kubuntu on my  main desktop so not sure
[23:56] <resure> I tried this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-Unity-Panel-Constantly-Freezing-in-Ubuntu-13-10-394969.shtml it helps, but only for short periods of time
[23:58] <xstefen> Hi. In 13.10 [Lubuntu to be exact], I am unable to ping local machines, windows or linux, by netbios/hostname. Only with IP address. smb and everything else works, ive installed winbind and did all nsswitch and smb.conf edits that ive done on every ubuntu box in the past. but i cannot get 'ping pcname' to work at all now
[23:58] <faugusztin> qbmaniac: or maybe it is just the router : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1382068&page=2&p=11436800#post11436800
[23:59] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: I kind of agree, I can't connect to us.archives.ubuntu.com to d/l XFCE... strange DNS resolving issue
[23:59] <wafflejock> xstefen: I realize you probably just want this to work but if you are needing the host names to work for some reason you could always set static IPs on your devices and list them in your hosts file