[02:07] <OvenWerks> zequence: It looks like we can remod -settings to set grub to "UbuntuStudio" again.
[09:33] <zequence> OvenWerks: Did you make sure? If so, just do it.
[10:06] <zequence> OvenWerks: firewire devices can be daisy chained. Not all will work. Don't know how common it is for devices to work/not work. 
[10:06] <zequence> I know many do work, with ffado
[22:12] <OvenWerks> zequence: I don't have a MB with the new bios to check it with. So I am less willing to try if there is not someone who can test it.
[22:18] <OvenWerks> zequence: I don't know that much about FW stuff. I can't aford to buy some to try it out either. I do know, that getting sub ms latency with any IF takes some playing around with HW and bios settings. Hyperthreading pretty much forces 4ms or more. HW is moving away from good latency performance towards brutforce throughput. I also think there are getting to be more things that "borrow" cpu cycles without asking the OS... or even without the OS kn
[22:21] <OvenWerks> PCI(e) slots are going away, FW ports have already gone away... Minimum latency with USB devices seems to be about 5ms anyway... internal audio is almost double (HDA). Kernel makes no difference for that.
[22:23] <zequence> OvenWerks: I mean, did you look at the code changes for GRUB?
[22:24] <OvenWerks> Not yet, I have been busy with life
[22:24] <zequence> ..and all I was saying about firewire was that it's not the same as with ALSA. You just connect multiple devices in daisy chains, and in theory they should work as one card
[22:25] <zequence> OvenWerks: That's why I'm askin, cause until someone makes sure, we don't know what was fixed
[22:25] <OvenWerks> The problem Is too, that I don't know the how the new bios stuff works... so I will have to learn some. I will watch what kubuntu does.
[22:26] <zequence> OvenWerks: I'm just worried they fixed the problem for Kubuntu, but not us
[22:26] <OvenWerks> Well, I should be able to figure our that much.
[22:29] <OvenWerks> gotta go get my son.