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karlgrzHey all, I'm trying to get a Presonus Firestudio Project hooked up to a toshiba satellite running fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 13.10.05:07
cfhowlettkarlgrz, so NOT ubuntustudio?05:07
karlgrzHeh, correct.05:08
karlgrzIs there another forum for that?05:08
cfhowlett!ubuntu but stay here for now05:08
ubottucfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:08
cfhowlett#ubuntu05:08
karlgrzCoolk05:08
karlgrz*cool05:08
karlgrzSo, the light is still red.05:09
cfhowlettanyway, surprised the presonus doesn't pnp - the 1Box worked out of the box05:09
karlgrzWhen I fire up ardour, it doesn't see it.05:09
karlgrzDo I need to open a JACK gui?05:09
karlgrzIs that where the interface gets selected?05:09
cfhowlettI've not used the device, so I'm on shakey ground here.  Red light means ... what?05:09
karlgrzRight, it usually is blue on Windows when it is connected properly.05:10
cfhowlettkarlgrz, ah.  so it has power but isn't connecting then?05:10
karlgrzI'm coming from Cubase 5 on WIndows 7. I'm very comfortable with building drivers and what not if needed, I'm software engineer. Correct.05:11
cfhowlettkarlgrz, since no one with actual experience with your device is present, suggest you check in to  #opensourcemusician05:11
karlgrzWhen I plug it in I don't see a toast or anything to indicate ubuntu sees it.05:11
karlgrzCool, thanks!05:11
cfhowlettkarlgrz, best of luck05:11
yeyemanlooking for synth software10:12
yeyemanmodular synths10:12
yeyemanor anything to make my own sounds and sound effects10:13
yeyemanI really liked propellerhead Reason10:13
studio-newbie'llo v'rybody ! :)10:35
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, greetings10:36
studio-newbieany tricks, while i am unstalling ubuntu, please, or everything is set ?10:37
studio-newbiepls  ?10:37
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, tricks?  like?10:37
studio-newbiei dont no, tweaking, cheat codes, geek s stuff10:38
studio-newbielol10:38
studio-newbiegod mode or so10:38
cfhowlettNewb?  nah, take the defaults, learn your way around.  come back to this question in a few months10:38
studio-newbiedo u use studio 3 long ?10:38
cfhowlettsince the first edition10:38
studio-newbiereally10:39
studio-newbiei no a ltl knoppix10:39
cfhowlettwhat is your art focus?10:39
studio-newbieactually am singer but i like goa transe, i want 2 try to compose10:40
studio-newbiebut i start from 0 pointed... lol10:40
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, lots of composer tools in US10:40
studio-newbieyes ! u should say evrything i s therre apparently10:41
studio-newbiesoe newbie tuto about electronic music , maybe ?10:41
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, the distro is still a bit weighted towards music production10:41
studio-newbiei dont understand ( sorry, am fr. lol)10:42
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, install, play and you'll see.10:42
studio-newbieu mean there is a lot or that its more for video  ?10:43
studio-newbiei looked for musical distro and us10:43
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, originally, most tools were for music.  Now, music, graphics, publishing,10:43
studio-newbiefounded us10:43
studio-newbieok10:43
studio-newbiewell, install gettin over, ll found out soon. any tuto or howto 2 advise, pls ?10:44
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, use this channel and see the ubuntu studio forums10:45
studio-newbiei mean, whats the best way to learn apps10:45
studio-newbieok10:45
studio-newbietx10:45
cfhowletthave fun, be safe10:46
studio-newbiesame 4 u10:46
studio-newbieha, any security tips , leak,10:46
studio-newbieis firewall on from the start, not like knoppix ?10:47
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, no firewall is disabled by default10:47
cfhowlett!ufw10:47
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo10:47
studio-newbieso its mean amnaked till the shell is avalable. ok !10:48
studio-newbielol10:48
zequencestudio-newbie: Just look for firewall apps in the software center10:48
zequenceThere are a few10:48
studio-newbieho, i can manage coms lines, with doc10:49
zequencestudio-newbie: try: ufw --help10:49
zequenceor: man ufw10:50
cfhowlettzequence, any advice on wacom support ... query on the main channel10:50
zequencecfhowlett: Nope :P10:50
studio-newbieany idea why progrmers dont switch it on by defaukt ? always wonder...10:51
keyfurHaha. I'm looking for help installing a driver for my new wacom10:51
keyfurthank you cfhowlett :)10:51
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, probably since the rate of successful attacks on linux is so low and so may new users would totally screw up the FW settings10:51
studio-newbieFW , pls ?10:52
cfhowlettfirewall10:52
studio-newbieha, yes, sorry10:52
studio-newbieno way to open a shell during install, anyway ?10:52
cfhowlettkeyfur,  this might be it:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178015410:52
keyfurcfhowlett I will look and give it a try...10:53
cfhowlettstudio-newbie, alt-f210:53
studio-newbiegood luck, key410:53
studio-newbiecoooool ! tx10:53
studio-newbiedo not work...10:53
zequencestudio-newbie: Ctrl+Alt+F110:54
zequencestudio-newbie: To get back to graphical login, do: Ctrl+Alt+F710:54
zequenceah, but you need to know the username and password10:55
keyfurcfhowlett I have a USB tablet. That guide appears to be for a serial tablet10:55
zequencestudio-newbie: you're running a live session aren't you? Don't you have a menu to look through?10:55
cfhowlettkeyfur, ah.  true10:56
cfhowlettkeyfur, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom11:01
studio-newbiecfhowlett, tx, even if i spent 5 minutes to find the exit11:04
studio-newbielol11:04
studio-newbieufw on11:04
studio-newbierebotting11:04
studio-newbietx 4 help11:04
cfhowlettcome back with music11:04
chrys-studiocfhowlett , pls ?11:42
chrys-studiointernt problem after installation refused to accept my PW after setting ufw on during install. any 1 can help, pls ?11:43
cfhowlettchrys-studio, why would you do that?  let it install, reboot, THEN set passwd!11:44
studio-user215hi again everybody. someone composing psychedelic music could tell a total newbie in this field whic doc i should start with to use the differents sounds generator, how it works, , etc ?12:35
studio-user215any genral doc about it ?12:35
cfhowlettstudio-user215, ask in #opensourcemusicianns12:37
cfhowlett#opensourcemusicans12:37
cfhowlettalso see the audio section of this wiki     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Software12:37
studio-user215ok  ! :)12:37
juanmi513hi/hola/bonjour?12:49
cfhowlettgreetings bienviendos bonjour12:49
juanmi513somebody knows how to share a folder with W7, using U-Studio 13 from VM Virtual Box?12:50
juanmi513i was set this on VB, but i can't find that folder into ubuntu file system (am novice on linux)12:51
cfhowlettshared folders are a virtualbox setting12:51
juanmi513yes, it was set12:51
juanmi513the problem is very simple12:52
juanmi513i can't found the folder12:52
juanmi513in linux (u.studio)12:52
juanmi513have linux or ubuntu a standar dirrectory for this or something?12:53
juanmi513standard* sorry, am spanish12:53
cfhowlettyou can specify the shared folder but ... it might be that you need the alternate virtualbox program.  never done it myself.  ask in #ubuntu12:54
juanmi513ok12:54
juanmi513thnx12:54
wachinHi to all Ubuntu-Studio users14:28
wachinI need a help. Cannot enter on my UbuntuStudio 13.04 session,14:30
wachinyesterday was the last day I could enter. This has never happened. Well I did an update yesterday and was using Compiz in which I noticed some flaws with some windows facing14:31
wachinI put my password but not working14:31
wachinIn this moment I using UbuntuStudio 13.10 Live DVD for this entry14:32
holsteinwachin: i would blow out the config in the user that is causing the issue14:33
holsteinwachin: you can test this by using the guest account, or by making a new user14:33
wachinHi holstein14:33
wachinthe guest account working fine, but not can enter for my files14:34
holsteinwachin: correct14:34
holsteinwachin: so, since the guest account works, thats supports the theory i have stated14:34
holsteinwachin: your user config has been corrupted (likely from using/configuring compiz) and if you remove those session configs, new ones wil be generated, and all will be well14:35
wachinholstein how to "i would blow out the config"14:35
holsteinwachin: i start with the session config14:35
holsteinwachin: you can use a live CD to navigate to them14:35
wachinI will tried but the permissions are market and not know how to change this files14:36
holsteinwachin: they are hidden..14:36
wachinyes14:36
holsteinwachin: you "change" them as root, from the live CD14:36
wachinohhhh14:36
holsteinwachin: OR, login in tty from the broken user14:37
holsteinwachin: or, the reovery console14:37
wachinnever tried it14:37
wachinI'm taking notes14:38
holsteinwachin: thats why i suggested the live CD, since you are already using it, and it will be a GUI filemanager you are used ot using14:38
holsteinyou navigate to the users /home, and use "control+H" to show the hidden directories14:38
wachinok14:39
holstein ~/.config for example14:39
holsteinthats where i would start14:39
wachinand delete this14:39
holsteinyou can just rename it temporarily and test14:39
wachinoh14:39
wachinok14:39
holsteinwachin: no need to *ever* delete anything like that..14:39
holsteinjust rename, and test.. then you can revert if you want14:39
wachinok14:39
wachingreat14:39
wachinBy the way, the UbuntuStudio Developers have done a great job with UbuntuStudio 13.10, now you can change the icon theme and the icons are not lost on UbuntuStudio menu (something that happened with UbuntuStudio 13.04)14:42
wachinThanks for your work to all UbuntuStudio Developers14:43
wachinSee you later14:46
wachinthanks holstein14:46
leftistevening. i lost my audio22:54
leftistit woas working ok then it started freezing up (sys) and rebooted. now i have unsucessfully restored audio22:55
leftistany ideas?22:55
holsteinleftist: i would just look for and apply all upgrades, and think about what you were doing to make the system unstable22:55
leftistwell22:56
holsteinleftist: after applying upgrades, reboot and do the normal routine.. aplay -l in the terminal22:56
holsteintry pavucontrol, and alsamixer and dont trust any labels.. make certain the keyboard shorcuts are blocking anything.. state if you are using JACK or not.. if you have added any PPA's.. etc22:57
leftistok22:57
leftistthre used to be an app called journal that was in the older gnome applet panels. i think ayway22:59
leftistbrb let me finish this jupdate22:59
dalkeehon_hi23:10
dalkeehon_can anyone gimme a hand with some issues i have=23:10
dalkeehon_?23:10
dalkeehon_please23:10
holsteindalkeehon_: you'll ask and find out23:10
dalkeehon_since i've upgraded to 13.10 im having two issues23:11
dalkeehon_1 with audio that i semi fixed23:11
dalkeehon_an another is that i get a few errors when i log in but they might be connected to the audio issue23:11
dalkeehon_this semi fixed the issue but still i always need to relog once i enter my sesion twice before the audio works http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade23:12
leftistdoes your audio work dalkeehon?23:12
leftisti'm on 13.10 as well23:12
leftistseems like it's freezing up the system23:13
dalkeehon_once i did that in the link yes23:13
dalkeehon_but as i said i need to relog every time23:13
dalkeehon_so its a semi fix...23:13
dalkeehon_do you have audio issues aswel?23:13
holsteindalkeehon_: the link states it as a patch.. so, thats not what the site is saying at all23:14
dalkeehon_meaning?23:14
holsteindalkeehon_: when you properly apply the patch, it should fix that issue23:14
holsteindalkeehon_: you can always test with some other DE, like installing lxde for example23:15
leftistlet me logout23:15
holsteindalkeehon_: you can also try removing your saved XFCE session23:16
dalkeehon_what patch? i mean23:16
dalkeehon_theres no updates or atleast thats what the updater says23:16
holsteindalkeehon_: the patch you referenced with the link you gave me that you said "semi-fixed" your issue..23:17
dalkeehon_yeah but23:17
dalkeehon_that might be another dumb question sorry but23:17
holsteindalkeehon_: close all package managers.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to check for updates23:17
dalkeehon_ohhh23:18
dalkeehon_ok23:18
holsteindalkeehon_: to remove saved xfce sessions http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu23:18
dalkeehon_sorry im kinda newb with linux just 1 year beeing fully into this OS23:18
holsteindalkeehon_: ok.. im about 6 or so years in.. what os are you used to using?23:18
holsteinwindows?23:18
dalkeehon_thanks for the help23:19
dalkeehon_i was on windows before yes... tried ubuntu 9 years ago but didn't get fully convinced23:19
dalkeehon_but i must admit that its the best distro so far23:19
dalkeehon_for my taste nowdays23:19
holstein"best" is always a matter of opinion and use case23:19
dalkeehon_i used to be in debian before for 1-2 years23:20
holsteintry and think about how long you used windows before you would have been comfortable troubleshooting audio issues23:20
dalkeehon_aye...23:20
holsteinalso, if you are not planning on using JACK or much of the proaudio stuff, you likely dont need ubuntstudio.. you could just install xubuntu and add what you really need to it23:20
dalkeehon_windows is way worse than linux belive me23:21
dalkeehon_im so happy that i escaped from them23:21
dalkeehon_i use ubuntu studio for audio pruposes23:21
holsteindalkeehon_: 'worse' is also a matter of opinion23:21
holsteindalkeehon_: JACK can "break" the audio in the ways you are mentioning above23:21
dalkeehon_the boot time23:21
dalkeehon_is not a mater of opinion :P23:21
dalkeehon_recording rehersals and jack for the guitar seems to work perfectly23:22
holsteindalkeehon_: i wont discuss, or trash windows here.. you can visit one of the other offtopic channel.. thanks23:22
dalkeehon_been with ubuntu studio for 1 year and 0 problems but now its just this minor issue23:22
holsteindalkeehon_: jack for the guitar? you mean, something like rakarrack? with JACK?23:23
dalkeehon_yup23:23
holsteindalkeehon_: have you removed the xfce saved sessions and tried re-login?23:23
holsteinor reboot23:23
dalkeehon_yes23:23
holsteindalkeehon_: and? whats the issue? what makes sound work? and what makes it break?23:24
dalkeehon_ok to keep it short, and sorry for the bad english that might lead to not saying what i want to say in the best way23:25
dalkeehon_when i start the laptop23:25
dalkeehon_and enter in my sesion23:25
dalkeehon_theres no audio23:25
holsteindalkeehon_: and, since then? you have done what i suggested? i say, do that *right* *now* and reboot, and test.. please23:25
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu23:26
dalkeehon_indicator-sound.service23:26
dalkeehon_mod this? yes23:26
dalkeehon_i did23:26
dalkeehon_still the same23:26
holsteindalkeehon_: read http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu and remove the saved sessions please23:26
dalkeehon_that's what i did before coming here, also i've done the other command you told me23:27
holsteindalkeehon_: what "other command"? you looked for and applied upgrades? with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ? anything coming in?23:28
dalkeehon_ok, thanks for the help23:28
dalkeehon_a 123kb install23:28
dalkeehon_lib's basically23:29
holstein!audio23:29
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.23:29
holstein!proaudio23:29
ubottuFor information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro23:29
dalkeehon_ok brb holstein23:30
dalkeehonstill the same23:33
dalkeehonmeh23:33
dalkeehoni guess i'll need to learn to live with it, OR downgrade to 13.04 if its safe23:33
dalkeehonto-do23:33
acmeinc1Does ubuntu-studio 12.04 use a special version of 'top'?\23:36
holsteinacmeinc1: it'll be repackaged.. but, not "special" that i know of23:36
acmeinc1ok...the top command is continually crashing xfce, which takes me to the login screen.  ican log back in, then if i run top, it crashes again23:37
holsteinacmeinc1: try top in tty..23:39
dalkeehonholstein, mind if i take some of your time? (more)23:41
holsteindalkeehon: there is no "downgrade".. you just reinstall, and its safe, but the support for 13.04 is about over23:42
dalkeehonthe bug id definetly this 123:42
dalkeehonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/120820423:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]23:42
holsteindalkeehon: i agree23:42
holsteindalkeehon: there is a bug, but, for ubuntustudio, we are really interested in JACK, and this doenst break JACK at all23:43
holsteindalkeehon: its something that is being worked on upstream AFAIK23:43
dalkeehonah what is jack? i tought you were talking me about a jack input23:43
dalkeehon...23:43
dalkeehonim dumb23:43
holsteindalkeehon: OK.. yeah, if you are not using JACK, the software, and the tools that ubuntustudio comes with, you might prefer just using something like xubuntu23:44
holsteinlubuntu is nice and light if you are trying to avoid main ubuntu, and AFAIK, doesnt have that bug23:44
dalkeehoni use the tools but i also enjoy beeing able to hear audio without needed to relog every time23:45
holsteinyou can always install whatever from the ubuntustuduio packages into whatever ubuntu23:45
holsteindalkeehon: if you dont use JACK, then i dont think you do use the tools23:45
holsteindalkeehon: and, i realize you are being affected by a nasty bug, but, if you, at login, will try to start JACK and see if it will start, that might be all you need23:46
dalkeehonthing is i don't have anything called "jack" plain and simple23:46
holstein!proaudio23:47
dalkeehonjack rack and jack keyboard23:47
dalkeehonis what i have :/23:47
holsteindalkeehon: you can use qjackctl to configure and start jack23:47
dalkeehonand i don't want to sound rude but i'm kind of lost23:47
dalkeehonk thanks23:47
holsteindalkeehon: i hear you, and im trying to get you to a more popular place, since those issues are not really related to ubuntustudio specifically23:48
holsteinby popular, i mean where more support would be23:48
dalkeehonk thanks i runed qjackctl23:49
dalkeehonstill no sound tho23:49
holsteinsure, but runing that does nothing23:49
holsteinyou have to read the proaudio link, and setup and learn to run JACK23:49
dalkeehonok23:49
holsteinits not trivial, and its likely not something you are needing to use23:49
holsteinbut, its the centeral thing that ubuntustudio uses23:49
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro23:50
dalkeehonwell if you are telling me its a good "must-have" im setting it up...23:50
holsteindalkeehon: im telling you, if you need it, you need it.. if you dont, its overkill23:50
holsteindalkeehon: think of it like this.. if you came here and said "i want to edit a few photos" and i suggested a CAD 3d progam, in which you *could* edit a photo.. but it would be overkill23:51
dalkeehonwell its not that i'm not going to use it, i simply didn't knew of that JACK thing untill you named it23:52
dalkeehonbut now im diggin into it for sure ;)23:52
dalkeehonok, basically nothing that is related to audio works23:55
dalkeehonwhatever mixer i use etc23:55
dalkeehonbah, I better don't steal more of your time honestly but i deeply apreciate your time23:55
holsteindalkeehon: i would try pavucontrol and alsamixer23:56
holsteindalkeehon: its really this simple, afaik.. something mutes the sound, and makes it challenging to unmute.. but i really dont follow it23:56
holsteindalkeehon: i use an older version of xfce, and i dont use any applets in ubuntustudio23:56
holsteinlast time i tested it, i was told there was a fight about who's "fault" it was.. so i left it alone23:57

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