[05:07] <karlgrz> Hey all, I'm trying to get a Presonus Firestudio Project hooked up to a toshiba satellite running fresh install of Ubuntu Desktop 13.10.
[05:07] <cfhowlett> karlgrz, so NOT ubuntustudio?
[05:08] <karlgrz> Heh, correct.
[05:08] <karlgrz> Is there another forum for that?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu but stay here for now
[05:08] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu
[05:08] <karlgrz> Coolk
[05:08] <karlgrz> *cool
[05:09] <karlgrz> So, the light is still red.
[05:09] <cfhowlett> anyway, surprised the presonus doesn't pnp - the 1Box worked out of the box
[05:09] <karlgrz> When I fire up ardour, it doesn't see it.
[05:09] <karlgrz> Do I need to open a JACK gui?
[05:09] <karlgrz> Is that where the interface gets selected?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> I've not used the device, so I'm on shakey ground here.  Red light means ... what?
[05:10] <karlgrz> Right, it usually is blue on Windows when it is connected properly.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> karlgrz, ah.  so it has power but isn't connecting then?
[05:11] <karlgrz> I'm coming from Cubase 5 on WIndows 7. I'm very comfortable with building drivers and what not if needed, I'm software engineer. Correct.
[05:11] <cfhowlett> karlgrz, since no one with actual experience with your device is present, suggest you check in to  #opensourcemusician
[05:11] <karlgrz> When I plug it in I don't see a toast or anything to indicate ubuntu sees it.
[05:11] <karlgrz> Cool, thanks!
[05:11] <cfhowlett> karlgrz, best of luck
[10:12] <yeyeman> looking for synth software
[10:12] <yeyeman> modular synths
[10:13] <yeyeman> or anything to make my own sounds and sound effects
[10:13] <yeyeman> I really liked propellerhead Reason
[10:35] <studio-newbie> 'llo v'rybody ! :)
[10:36] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, greetings
[10:37] <studio-newbie> any tricks, while i am unstalling ubuntu, please, or everything is set ?
[10:37] <studio-newbie> pls  ?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, tricks?  like?
[10:38] <studio-newbie> i dont no, tweaking, cheat codes, geek s stuff
[10:38] <studio-newbie> lol
[10:38] <studio-newbie> god mode or so
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Newb?  nah, take the defaults, learn your way around.  come back to this question in a few months
[10:38] <studio-newbie> do u use studio 3 long ?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> since the first edition
[10:39] <studio-newbie> really
[10:39] <studio-newbie> i no a ltl knoppix
[10:39] <cfhowlett> what is your art focus?
[10:40] <studio-newbie> actually am singer but i like goa transe, i want 2 try to compose
[10:40] <studio-newbie> but i start from 0 pointed... lol
[10:40] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, lots of composer tools in US
[10:41] <studio-newbie> yes ! u should say evrything i s therre apparently
[10:41] <studio-newbie> soe newbie tuto about electronic music , maybe ?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, the distro is still a bit weighted towards music production
[10:42] <studio-newbie> i dont understand ( sorry, am fr. lol)
[10:42] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, install, play and you'll see.
[10:43] <studio-newbie> u mean there is a lot or that its more for video  ?
[10:43] <studio-newbie> i looked for musical distro and us
[10:43] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, originally, most tools were for music.  Now, music, graphics, publishing,
[10:43] <studio-newbie> founded us
[10:43] <studio-newbie> ok
[10:44] <studio-newbie> well, install gettin over, ll found out soon. any tuto or howto 2 advise, pls ?
[10:45] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, use this channel and see the ubuntu studio forums
[10:45] <studio-newbie> i mean, whats the best way to learn apps
[10:45] <studio-newbie> ok
[10:45] <studio-newbie> tx
[10:46] <cfhowlett> have fun, be safe
[10:46] <studio-newbie> same 4 u
[10:46] <studio-newbie> ha, any security tips , leak,
[10:47] <studio-newbie> is firewall on from the start, not like knoppix ?
[10:47] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, no firewall is disabled by default
[10:47] <cfhowlett> !ufw
[10:48] <studio-newbie> so its mean amnaked till the shell is avalable. ok !
[10:48] <studio-newbie> lol
[10:48] <zequence> studio-newbie: Just look for firewall apps in the software center
[10:48] <zequence> There are a few
[10:49] <studio-newbie> ho, i can manage coms lines, with doc
[10:49] <zequence> studio-newbie: try: ufw --help
[10:50] <zequence> or: man ufw
[10:50] <cfhowlett> zequence, any advice on wacom support ... query on the main channel
[10:50] <zequence> cfhowlett: Nope :P
[10:51] <studio-newbie> any idea why progrmers dont switch it on by defaukt ? always wonder...
[10:51] <keyfur> Haha. I'm looking for help installing a driver for my new wacom
[10:51] <keyfur> thank you cfhowlett :)
[10:51] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, probably since the rate of successful attacks on linux is so low and so may new users would totally screw up the FW settings
[10:52] <studio-newbie> FW , pls ?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> firewall
[10:52] <studio-newbie> ha, yes, sorry
[10:52] <studio-newbie> no way to open a shell during install, anyway ?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> keyfur,  this might be it:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1780154
[10:53] <keyfur> cfhowlett I will look and give it a try...
[10:53] <cfhowlett> studio-newbie, alt-f2
[10:53] <studio-newbie> good luck, key4
[10:53] <studio-newbie> coooool ! tx
[10:53] <studio-newbie> do not work...
[10:54] <zequence> studio-newbie: Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:54] <zequence> studio-newbie: To get back to graphical login, do: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[10:55] <zequence> ah, but you need to know the username and password
[10:55] <keyfur> cfhowlett I have a USB tablet. That guide appears to be for a serial tablet
[10:55] <zequence> studio-newbie: you're running a live session aren't you? Don't you have a menu to look through?
[10:56] <cfhowlett> keyfur, ah.  true
[11:01] <cfhowlett> keyfur, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom
[11:04] <studio-newbie> cfhowlett, tx, even if i spent 5 minutes to find the exit
[11:04] <studio-newbie> lol
[11:04] <studio-newbie> ufw on
[11:04] <studio-newbie> rebotting
[11:04] <studio-newbie> tx 4 help
[11:04] <cfhowlett> come back with music
[11:42] <chrys-studio> cfhowlett , pls ?
[11:43] <chrys-studio> internt problem after installation refused to accept my PW after setting ufw on during install. any 1 can help, pls ?
[11:44] <cfhowlett> chrys-studio, why would you do that?  let it install, reboot, THEN set passwd!
[12:35] <studio-user215> hi again everybody. someone composing psychedelic music could tell a total newbie in this field whic doc i should start with to use the differents sounds generator, how it works, , etc ?
[12:35] <studio-user215> any genral doc about it ?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> studio-user215, ask in #opensourcemusicianns
[12:37] <cfhowlett> #opensourcemusicans
[12:37] <cfhowlett> also see the audio section of this wiki     https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Software
[12:37] <studio-user215> ok  ! :)
[12:49] <juanmi513> hi/hola/bonjour?
[12:49] <cfhowlett> greetings bienviendos bonjour
[12:50] <juanmi513> somebody knows how to share a folder with W7, using U-Studio 13 from VM Virtual Box?
[12:51] <juanmi513> i was set this on VB, but i can't find that folder into ubuntu file system (am novice on linux)
[12:51] <cfhowlett> shared folders are a virtualbox setting
[12:51] <juanmi513> yes, it was set
[12:52] <juanmi513> the problem is very simple
[12:52] <juanmi513> i can't found the folder
[12:52] <juanmi513> in linux (u.studio)
[12:53] <juanmi513> have linux or ubuntu a standar dirrectory for this or something?
[12:53] <juanmi513> standard* sorry, am spanish
[12:54] <cfhowlett> you can specify the shared folder but ... it might be that you need the alternate virtualbox program.  never done it myself.  ask in #ubuntu
[12:54] <juanmi513> ok
[12:54] <juanmi513> thnx
[14:28] <wachin> Hi to all Ubuntu-Studio users
[14:30] <wachin> I need a help. Cannot enter on my UbuntuStudio 13.04 session,
[14:31] <wachin> yesterday was the last day I could enter. This has never happened. Well I did an update yesterday and was using Compiz in which I noticed some flaws with some windows facing
[14:31] <wachin> I put my password but not working
[14:32] <wachin> In this moment I using UbuntuStudio 13.10 Live DVD for this entry
[14:33] <holstein> wachin: i would blow out the config in the user that is causing the issue
[14:33] <holstein> wachin: you can test this by using the guest account, or by making a new user
[14:33] <wachin> Hi holstein
[14:34] <wachin> the guest account working fine, but not can enter for my files
[14:34] <holstein> wachin: correct
[14:34] <holstein> wachin: so, since the guest account works, thats supports the theory i have stated
[14:35] <holstein> wachin: your user config has been corrupted (likely from using/configuring compiz) and if you remove those session configs, new ones wil be generated, and all will be well
[14:35] <wachin> holstein how to "i would blow out the config"
[14:35] <holstein> wachin: i start with the session config
[14:35] <holstein> wachin: you can use a live CD to navigate to them
[14:36] <wachin> I will tried but the permissions are market and not know how to change this files
[14:36] <holstein> wachin: they are hidden..
[14:36] <wachin> yes
[14:36] <holstein> wachin: you "change" them as root, from the live CD
[14:36] <wachin> ohhhh
[14:37] <holstein> wachin: OR, login in tty from the broken user
[14:37] <holstein> wachin: or, the reovery console
[14:37] <wachin> never tried it
[14:38] <wachin> I'm taking notes
[14:38] <holstein> wachin: thats why i suggested the live CD, since you are already using it, and it will be a GUI filemanager you are used ot using
[14:38] <holstein> you navigate to the users /home, and use "control+H" to show the hidden directories
[14:39] <wachin> ok
[14:39] <holstein>  ~/.config for example
[14:39] <holstein> thats where i would start
[14:39] <wachin> and delete this
[14:39] <holstein> you can just rename it temporarily and test
[14:39] <wachin> oh
[14:39] <wachin> ok
[14:39] <holstein> wachin: no need to *ever* delete anything like that..
[14:39] <holstein> just rename, and test.. then you can revert if you want
[14:39] <wachin> ok
[14:39] <wachin> great
[14:42] <wachin> By the way, the UbuntuStudio Developers have done a great job with UbuntuStudio 13.10, now you can change the icon theme and the icons are not lost on UbuntuStudio menu (something that happened with UbuntuStudio 13.04)
[14:43] <wachin> Thanks for your work to all UbuntuStudio Developers
[14:46] <wachin> See you later
[14:46] <wachin> thanks holstein
[22:54] <leftist> evening. i lost my audio
[22:55] <leftist> it woas working ok then it started freezing up (sys) and rebooted. now i have unsucessfully restored audio
[22:55] <leftist> any ideas?
[22:55] <holstein> leftist: i would just look for and apply all upgrades, and think about what you were doing to make the system unstable
[22:56] <leftist> well
[22:56] <holstein> leftist: after applying upgrades, reboot and do the normal routine.. aplay -l in the terminal
[22:57] <holstein> try pavucontrol, and alsamixer and dont trust any labels.. make certain the keyboard shorcuts are blocking anything.. state if you are using JACK or not.. if you have added any PPA's.. etc
[22:57] <leftist> ok
[22:59] <leftist> thre used to be an app called journal that was in the older gnome applet panels. i think ayway
[22:59] <leftist> brb let me finish this jupdate
[23:10] <dalkeehon_> hi
[23:10] <dalkeehon_> can anyone gimme a hand with some issues i have=
[23:10] <dalkeehon_> ?
[23:10] <dalkeehon_> please
[23:10] <holstein> dalkeehon_: you'll ask and find out
[23:11] <dalkeehon_> since i've upgraded to 13.10 im having two issues
[23:11] <dalkeehon_> 1 with audio that i semi fixed
[23:11] <dalkeehon_> an another is that i get a few errors when i log in but they might be connected to the audio issue
[23:12] <dalkeehon_> this semi fixed the issue but still i always need to relog once i enter my sesion twice before the audio works http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[23:12] <leftist> does your audio work dalkeehon?
[23:12] <leftist> i'm on 13.10 as well
[23:13] <leftist> seems like it's freezing up the system
[23:13] <dalkeehon_> once i did that in the link yes
[23:13] <dalkeehon_> but as i said i need to relog every time
[23:13] <dalkeehon_> so its a semi fix...
[23:13] <dalkeehon_> do you have audio issues aswel?
[23:14] <holstein> dalkeehon_: the link states it as a patch.. so, thats not what the site is saying at all
[23:14] <dalkeehon_> meaning?
[23:14] <holstein> dalkeehon_: when you properly apply the patch, it should fix that issue
[23:15] <holstein> dalkeehon_: you can always test with some other DE, like installing lxde for example
[23:15] <leftist> let me logout
[23:16] <holstein> dalkeehon_: you can also try removing your saved XFCE session
[23:16] <dalkeehon_> what patch? i mean
[23:16] <dalkeehon_> theres no updates or atleast thats what the updater says
[23:17] <holstein> dalkeehon_: the patch you referenced with the link you gave me that you said "semi-fixed" your issue..
[23:17] <dalkeehon_> yeah but
[23:17] <dalkeehon_> that might be another dumb question sorry but
[23:17] <holstein> dalkeehon_: close all package managers.. open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to check for updates
[23:18] <dalkeehon_> ohhh
[23:18] <dalkeehon_> ok
[23:18] <holstein> dalkeehon_: to remove saved xfce sessions http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu
[23:18] <dalkeehon_> sorry im kinda newb with linux just 1 year beeing fully into this OS
[23:18] <holstein> dalkeehon_: ok.. im about 6 or so years in.. what os are you used to using?
[23:18] <holstein> windows?
[23:19] <dalkeehon_> thanks for the help
[23:19] <dalkeehon_> i was on windows before yes... tried ubuntu 9 years ago but didn't get fully convinced
[23:19] <dalkeehon_> but i must admit that its the best distro so far
[23:19] <dalkeehon_> for my taste nowdays
[23:19] <holstein> "best" is always a matter of opinion and use case
[23:20] <dalkeehon_> i used to be in debian before for 1-2 years
[23:20] <holstein> try and think about how long you used windows before you would have been comfortable troubleshooting audio issues
[23:20] <dalkeehon_> aye...
[23:20] <holstein> also, if you are not planning on using JACK or much of the proaudio stuff, you likely dont need ubuntstudio.. you could just install xubuntu and add what you really need to it
[23:21] <dalkeehon_> windows is way worse than linux belive me
[23:21] <dalkeehon_> im so happy that i escaped from them
[23:21] <dalkeehon_> i use ubuntu studio for audio pruposes
[23:21] <holstein> dalkeehon_: 'worse' is also a matter of opinion
[23:21] <holstein> dalkeehon_: JACK can "break" the audio in the ways you are mentioning above
[23:21] <dalkeehon_> the boot time
[23:21] <dalkeehon_> is not a mater of opinion :P
[23:22] <dalkeehon_> recording rehersals and jack for the guitar seems to work perfectly
[23:22] <holstein> dalkeehon_: i wont discuss, or trash windows here.. you can visit one of the other offtopic channel.. thanks
[23:22] <dalkeehon_> been with ubuntu studio for 1 year and 0 problems but now its just this minor issue
[23:23] <holstein> dalkeehon_: jack for the guitar? you mean, something like rakarrack? with JACK?
[23:23] <dalkeehon_> yup
[23:23] <holstein> dalkeehon_: have you removed the xfce saved sessions and tried re-login?
[23:23] <holstein> or reboot
[23:23] <dalkeehon_> yes
[23:24] <holstein> dalkeehon_: and? whats the issue? what makes sound work? and what makes it break?
[23:25] <dalkeehon_> ok to keep it short, and sorry for the bad english that might lead to not saying what i want to say in the best way
[23:25] <dalkeehon_> when i start the laptop
[23:25] <dalkeehon_> and enter in my sesion
[23:25] <dalkeehon_> theres no audio
[23:25] <holstein> dalkeehon_: and, since then? you have done what i suggested? i say, do that *right* *now* and reboot, and test.. please
[23:26] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu
[23:26] <dalkeehon_> indicator-sound.service
[23:26] <dalkeehon_> mod this? yes
[23:26] <dalkeehon_> i did
[23:26] <dalkeehon_> still the same
[23:26] <holstein> dalkeehon_: read http://askubuntu.com/questions/111010/how-do-i-remove-some-sessions-from-the-session-list-in-xubuntu and remove the saved sessions please
[23:27] <dalkeehon_> that's what i did before coming here, also i've done the other command you told me
[23:28] <holstein> dalkeehon_: what "other command"? you looked for and applied upgrades? with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ? anything coming in?
[23:28] <dalkeehon_> ok, thanks for the help
[23:28] <dalkeehon_> a 123kb install
[23:29] <dalkeehon_> lib's basically
[23:29] <holstein> !audio
[23:29] <holstein> !proaudio
[23:30] <dalkeehon_> ok brb holstein
[23:33] <dalkeehon> still the same
[23:33] <dalkeehon> meh
[23:33] <dalkeehon> i guess i'll need to learn to live with it, OR downgrade to 13.04 if its safe
[23:33] <dalkeehon> to-do
[23:36] <acmeinc1> Does ubuntu-studio 12.04 use a special version of 'top'?\
[23:36] <holstein> acmeinc1: it'll be repackaged.. but, not "special" that i know of
[23:37] <acmeinc1> ok...the top command is continually crashing xfce, which takes me to the login screen.  ican log back in, then if i run top, it crashes again
[23:39] <holstein> acmeinc1: try top in tty..
[23:41] <dalkeehon> holstein, mind if i take some of your time? (more)
[23:42] <holstein> dalkeehon: there is no "downgrade".. you just reinstall, and its safe, but the support for 13.04 is about over
[23:42] <dalkeehon> the bug id definetly this 1
[23:42] <dalkeehon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[23:42] <holstein> dalkeehon: i agree
[23:43] <holstein> dalkeehon: there is a bug, but, for ubuntustudio, we are really interested in JACK, and this doenst break JACK at all
[23:43] <holstein> dalkeehon: its something that is being worked on upstream AFAIK
[23:43] <dalkeehon> ah what is jack? i tought you were talking me about a jack input
[23:43] <dalkeehon> ...
[23:43] <dalkeehon> im dumb
[23:44] <holstein> dalkeehon: OK.. yeah, if you are not using JACK, the software, and the tools that ubuntustudio comes with, you might prefer just using something like xubuntu
[23:44] <holstein> lubuntu is nice and light if you are trying to avoid main ubuntu, and AFAIK, doesnt have that bug
[23:45] <dalkeehon> i use the tools but i also enjoy beeing able to hear audio without needed to relog every time
[23:45] <holstein> you can always install whatever from the ubuntustuduio packages into whatever ubuntu
[23:45] <holstein> dalkeehon: if you dont use JACK, then i dont think you do use the tools
[23:46] <holstein> dalkeehon: and, i realize you are being affected by a nasty bug, but, if you, at login, will try to start JACK and see if it will start, that might be all you need
[23:46] <dalkeehon> thing is i don't have anything called "jack" plain and simple
[23:47] <holstein> !proaudio
[23:47] <dalkeehon> jack rack and jack keyboard
[23:47] <dalkeehon> is what i have :/
[23:47] <holstein> dalkeehon: you can use qjackctl to configure and start jack
[23:47] <dalkeehon> and i don't want to sound rude but i'm kind of lost
[23:47] <dalkeehon> k thanks
[23:48] <holstein> dalkeehon: i hear you, and im trying to get you to a more popular place, since those issues are not really related to ubuntustudio specifically
[23:48] <holstein> by popular, i mean where more support would be
[23:49] <dalkeehon> k thanks i runed qjackctl
[23:49] <dalkeehon> still no sound tho
[23:49] <holstein> sure, but runing that does nothing
[23:49] <holstein> you have to read the proaudio link, and setup and learn to run JACK
[23:49] <dalkeehon> ok
[23:49] <holstein> its not trivial, and its likely not something you are needing to use
[23:49] <holstein> but, its the centeral thing that ubuntustudio uses
[23:50] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro
[23:50] <dalkeehon> well if you are telling me its a good "must-have" im setting it up...
[23:50] <holstein> dalkeehon: im telling you, if you need it, you need it.. if you dont, its overkill
[23:51] <holstein> dalkeehon: think of it like this.. if you came here and said "i want to edit a few photos" and i suggested a CAD 3d progam, in which you *could* edit a photo.. but it would be overkill
[23:52] <dalkeehon> well its not that i'm not going to use it, i simply didn't knew of that JACK thing untill you named it
[23:52] <dalkeehon> but now im diggin into it for sure ;)
[23:55] <dalkeehon> ok, basically nothing that is related to audio works
[23:55] <dalkeehon> whatever mixer i use etc
[23:55] <dalkeehon> bah, I better don't steal more of your time honestly but i deeply apreciate your time
[23:56] <holstein> dalkeehon: i would try pavucontrol and alsamixer
[23:56] <holstein> dalkeehon: its really this simple, afaik.. something mutes the sound, and makes it challenging to unmute.. but i really dont follow it
[23:56] <holstein> dalkeehon: i use an older version of xfce, and i dont use any applets in ubuntustudio
[23:57] <holstein> last time i tested it, i was told there was a fight about who's "fault" it was.. so i left it alone