[00:46] <troyready> raevol, what bkerensa said is correct
[00:46] <troyready> You can use the components of Openstack to make your own virtualization platform (i.e. run your own Rackspace/AWS)
[00:47] <raevol> i just wish that someone could explain it to me in more than one sentence. from what i can tell it's used to manage datacenters and that's it
[00:49] <blitz> maybe you should read up on iaas then
[00:49] <blitz> or do you want eli5
[00:52] <raevol> i don't know what eli5 is...
[00:53] <raevol> i guess my question after "wtf is it" is "does it scale down to just a dozen VMs on an office network?" would it be useful at that scale?
[00:54] <blitz> I kind of think the point of it is scalability
[00:55] <blitz> ask in #openstack
[01:01] <raevol> k
[01:05] <pleia2> raevol: it allows you to build a cloud, so has all the components like compute, storage, networking and stuff, and then either give accounts to your employees to use and spin up VMs, or sell it as a service (hpcloud, rackspace use openstack, amazon ec2 uses their own thing)
[01:11] <raevol> if i'm the only one at my work who spins up VMs, is it overkill?
[01:12] <raevol> we have one server that is basically a NAS, and a second server that hosts a dozen VMs that each do various small things, and that's it
[01:13] <pleia2> openstack is built so that you can run it all on a single server, or on thousands of servers, so I wouldn't say it's overkill
[01:13] <pleia2> it makes management of stuff quite nice
[01:16] <raevol> i'll look into it more, i think it's too much for our infrastructure currently, but if it grows at all we'll need something more elegant
[01:16] <pleia2> it's fun to play with anyway :) check out devstack.org for an easy way to launch the current dev version (we test on every commit, so devstack always works)
[01:20] <raevol> hmm hmm
[02:52] <nhaines> pleia2: I've heard that before!  :)
[03:04] <pleia2> :D
[07:55] <nhaines> I found http://olduse.net/ late last night.  It's fascinating.  It's a realtime playback of Usenet with a 30 year delay.
[07:55] <darthrobot> Title: [olduse.net: a real-time historical exhibit]
[07:55] <nhaines> That's 782 fortnights.
[07:56] <nhaines> I'm reading net.startrek from late September 1983 and people are arguing about Star Trek II.
[07:56] <nhaines> (Which just goes to show that technology never really changes.)
[08:08] <pleia2> nhaines: lol
[08:10] <nhaines> pleia2: although it is sort of interesting.  Someone asked if anyone knew about Star Trek III's release date, and someone said, "If you haven't seen Starlog Magazine or don't have access to it, it's June xx 1984 and Kirstie Alley isn't playing Saavik anymore..."  The speed of information and research is so different now.
[08:10] <nhaines> Of course, I grew up when it was libraries and microfiche, but it's very easy to take the Internet for granted.
[08:12] <pleia2> yeah, seems like a whole different world
[08:12] <pleia2> I remember once when I was a kid I paper mailed Disney to get a list of all their animated features (they sent me a list!)
[08:13] <pleia2> now I just go to wikipedia
[08:13] <nhaines> I have a catalog of all 600 NES games that Nintendo sent me for free in 1993.
[08:13] <pleia2> nice
[08:14] <nhaines> Meanwhile, today I spent 5 minutes drawing encouragement messages on my $80 Wii U Gamepad for random people I play Wii U Sports Club bowling with online, after a 30 minutes 1.3 GB digital download.  https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzRLlPhUlmXrSOb
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[08:15] <pleia2> :)
[08:15] <nhaines> Also, fsck that 6 pin.
[08:15] <nhaines> But yeah, it's a different world.
[08:16] <nhaines> Another year and GNU is announced.  That'll be fun to see.