[00:00] <qbmaniac> faugusztin: plus, I should have mentioned I am going via a wifi extender
[00:00] <qbmaniac> that is probably the issue
[00:00] <qbmaniac> a WIFI repeater I mean
[00:01] <M1k3Zu1u> n8
[00:01] <xstefen> wafflejock, this is a medium size business with about ~75 pcs. id like to avoid doing that since ping works just fine in my xu 13.04 setup
[00:02] <xstefen> ive made it work in all ubuntu variations ive played with up until now with Lu 13.10
[00:02] <wafflejock> xstefen: gotcha wasn't sure if it was a home setup thx for clarifying
[00:02] <faugusztin> xstefen: search domain in resolv.conf ?
[00:03] <xstefen> resolv.conf only contains nameserver 127.0.1.1
[00:03] <faugusztin> xstefen: that sounds like NetworkManager...
[00:04] <xstefen> I do use this
[00:04] <xstefen> always have
[00:04] <moondog> 127.0.1.1 is great if you're running a caching nameserver on the box :)
[00:05] <xstefen> well how did it get set to that and why
[00:05] <faugusztin> xstefen: are PC names in central DNS ? is that DNS given to all clients in your network ?
[00:05] <xstefen> i dont think names r stored but yes all windows machines r DNS 192.168.1.3,8.8.8.8
[00:05] <faugusztin> xstefen: that is the resolv.conf on all networkmanager computers, you can get the real data via nm-tool | tail -n 8
[00:05] <xstefen> i can ping ip address, just not hostname
[00:06] <xstefen> cannot ping hostname to nix or win boxes
[00:06] <faugusztin> xstefen: are those for real ? do you use 192.168.1.3 and 8.8.8.8 at same time ?
[00:06] <xstefen> ive never had to edit that file before
[00:06] <xstefen> 8.8.8.8 is secondary DNS, pretty much there for no reason at all
[00:06] <faugusztin> xstefen: i would remove that right now
[00:06] <xstefen> its not set on my box
[00:07] <faugusztin> and 192.168.1.3 DNS server does know the names of the computers ?
[00:07] <xstefen> from another machine i can ping my hostname, but not vice versa
[00:07] <xstefen> no i doubt it b/c they change all the time
[00:07] <xstefen> i want it to auto resolve like it always has before
[00:08] <xstefen> in pacman i can smb://kelly-pc
[00:08] <xstefen> but i cannot ping kelly-pc, get unknown host
[00:08] <ikonia> smb runs off a netbios name
[00:08] <faugusztin> xstefen: smb://kelly-pc uses winbind
[00:08] <faugusztin> xstefen: your problem is that your computer names aren't in DNS
[00:09] <faugusztin> smb doesn't need DNS
[00:09] <xstefen> ^
[00:09] <xstefen> well what is happening differently on this box
[00:09] <xstefen> it all works fine on my xu 13.04 and mint 15 boots
[00:09] <ikonia> differently to what ?
[00:09] <xstefen> i install Lu 13.10, do the same winbind smb config
[00:09] <xstefen> and it doesnt work
[00:10] <moondog> may want to take a look at named.conf
[00:10] <ikonia> why ?
[00:10] <ikonia> why do you want to look at named.conf ?
[00:10] <xstefen> seriously
[00:10] <ikonia> xstefen: can you explain what's not working that you expect to work
[00:10] <xstefen> im not adding all the IP addresses, some r static some r dchp
[00:10] <xstefen> when i type "ping kelly-pc" i want a return other than unknown host
[00:11] <ikonia> xstefen: ok, what is your name service resolver ?
[00:12] <xstefen>  not sure what youre asking there
[00:12] <xstefen> nsswitch hosts: files wins dns
[00:12] <ikonia> xstefen: what are you expecting to resolve/change hostnames to IP's
[00:12] <ikonia> xstefen: ok, so it will use your hostfile first, then wins, then dns
[00:12] <ikonia> xstefen: where is there a mapping of that hostname to ip address,
[00:12] <xstefen> i dont always know the IP, or they may be offline, and id like to ping hostname/netbios name to confirm
[00:13] <ikonia> xstefen: ok, so you'd need to setup a dynamic name service
[00:13] <xstefen> i dont know sir, windows does it automatically, ive never had to map it before, just had to install winbind and add a couple lines
[00:13] <ikonia> xstefen: windows works differently
[00:13] <xstefen> i agree
[00:13] <ikonia> ok, so what windows does/doens't do doens't really have a factor here,
[00:13] <xstefen> i guess my question really is right now, why when reproducing the same steps ive always used is it now not working
[00:14] <ikonia> xstefen: you need to walk through each resolver files/wins/dns and see which one is failing and why
[00:14] <wafflejock> really in this case just concerned with wins it sounds like
[00:15] <ikonia> it does sound that way, but I suspect that's not the case either, unless there is a wins server somewhere on the network
[00:15] <xstefen> honestly im about to just delete this partition and continue to use Xu 13.04 since it works fine there and doesnt work for no reason what so ever now
[00:15] <xstefen> ive never had to specify a wins server before
[00:15] <xstefen> or any resolv or anything
[00:15] <xstefen> just nsswitch, winbind, and smb.conf
[00:15] <xstefen> i dont think editing the smb.conf was even necessary
[00:15] <ikonia> no,
[00:16] <ikonia> you need to keep samba / ping (in your requirements) seperate
[00:16] <xstefen> ok. smb works. ping hostname does not
[00:16] <ikonia> xstefen: ok, so forget samba then, focus on your resolver
[00:16] <xstefen> however on every other distro ive ever used, ive made it work
[00:16] <xstefen> except for now on Lubuntu 13.10
[00:17] <ikonia> xstefen: many reasons, but without looking at them, it's hard to say whats different
[00:18] <xstefen> sigh. i bet if i installed Lu 13.04 i could make it work just the same
[00:18] <xstefen> what did .10 break
[00:18] <xstefen> or did something just not install properly? idk
[00:18] <ikonia> "make it work"
[00:18] <ikonia> what are you doing to make it work
[00:18] <xstefen> not sure where to start trouble shooting
[00:18] <ikonia> how can you know how to make it work, yet not know how to troubleshoot
[00:18] <xstefen> edit /etc/nsswitch.conf, install winbind. done works
[00:18] <ikonia> it suggests you're not really sure what you are doing
[00:18] <xstefen> google = troubleshoot
[00:19] <ikonia> google is not trouble shooting
[00:19] <wafflejock> xstefen: http://www.madebits.com/blog/comments.php?y=12&m=06&entry=entry120617-014832
[00:19] <ikonia> understanding what you are doing and how it's working/not working is trouble shooting
[00:19] <wafflejock> xstefen: nbtscan may help in that link
[00:19] <xstefen> nmblookup and everything except ping works
[00:19] <xstefen> thanks wafflejock
[00:19] <ikonia> netbios won't be used for "ping"
[00:20] <xstefen> either are hostnames now apparently
[00:20] <ikonia> "either" are hostnames ?
[00:21] <xstefen> neither you grammer policing jackass
[00:21] <xstefen> thanks for the "help"
[00:21] <ikonia> what ?
[00:21] <ikonia> drop the attitude, I'm just trying to clarify what you are saying
[00:21] <wafflejock> ah geek rage :)
[00:22] <troy> Anyone running optimus laptop setup able to somehow get an external hdmi monitor to work. I could care less if my laptop display worked when the monitor is connected.
[00:23] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard.. any remedies?
[00:24] <XLV> i should add i tried it through one of the ubuntu machines, same thing happened, only the last session opened had access to clipboard contents
[00:25] <xstefen> ikonia, that was pretty rude of me, but seriously,.,..
[00:25] <ikonia> I was being serious
[00:25] <xstefen> this is just really frustrating me and i seem to be making zero progress
[00:25] <sent_> I want a cron torun every 3 hours, what is correct, 0 */03 * * * command  or  00 */3 * * * command
[00:25] <ikonia> I appreciate how frustrating it can be, that's why I was asking you to be clear about the information you are giving me.
[00:26] <xstefen> if i could ping hostnames, that would make my day
[00:26] <xstefen> as to why i cant, and ive been able to with every ubuntu distro prior to 13.10, i have no idea
[00:26] <TheDrums> He's trying to use the winbind service/netbios names to resolv to IPs, `ping` is just an example command that should resolv fine.
[00:26] <ikonia> repeating that isn't really adding value, you've explained that, we know where the problem is, just need to understand why it's not working, or what you've not done to make it work as expected
[00:27] <resure> How can I pass alt-shift-* combination to apps if I use alt-shift for layout change?
[00:27] <davertron> I just installed 13.10 on my desktop and I have no sound. If I open pavucontrol, I see my card in output devices and if I play sound (using speaker-test) it appears that it's working (the orange bar is moving around...) but nothing is coming through my headphones
[00:27] <ikonia> TheDrums: ping won't pickup from netbios, because it's hardcoded to use libresolv
[00:27] <xstefen> Basically TheDrums , thats exactly it
[00:28] <xstefen> why when adding winbind and adding wins to the nsswitch hosts line has it worked in the past, but not now?
[00:28] <ikonia> the only way that will work is if libresolv can resolve the netbios names
[00:28] <xstefen> i'm not sure what to do next, im to the point of saying forget lu13.10 and staying with my xu13.04 setup
[00:29] <TheDrums> ikonia: Which if ping does use libresolv, then libresolv can.  I have it working here (ping alpha returns the ip and pings it), but don't remember how.
[00:29] <xstefen> A guy I talked to in #lubuntu said he could ping hostname.local in 13.10 and it worked
[00:29] <ikonia> TheDrums: it will be using a translation process, such as winbind from a wins server,
[00:29] <ikonia> hostname.local is in your hostfile
[00:29] <xstefen> and i helped him to setup winbind to ping without attaching .local
[00:29] <xstefen> but its not working
[00:29] <xstefen> for me
[00:29] <ikonia> localhost is also in the hostfile
[00:29] <ikonia> so that's a bad test
[00:30] <ikonia> does nmbd need to be running for winbind to do the translation, I don't remember, but I don't think so
[00:31] <xstefen> i dont remember either but it IS running
[00:31] <ikonia> xstefen: but isn't there a config parameter in samba for the nbmd for "use wins server"
[00:31] <TheDrums> (It doesn't, I stopped it then did `ping sigma`)
[00:31] <ikonia> wording along those lines
[00:31] <xstefen> nmblookup works
[00:32] <xstefen> there is ikonia
[00:32] <ikonia> yes, because that's querying a netbios name directly, but ping can't query a netbios name directlry it needs a translation
[00:32] <xstefen> wins support = yes/no
[00:32] <xstefen> and wins server = ip address
[00:32] <xstefen> on my other boot, i have wins support = yes, and wins server is commented out
[00:33] <ikonia> el3ctron_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/ping-netbios-names-from-linux-samba-271336/ this seems quite a good read
[00:33] <ikonia> it seems he's using samba for the translation
[00:34] <ikonia> it's basially emulating windows netbios over tcp
[00:34] <ikonia> (emulating is bad word)
[00:34] <xstefen> yes i have followed that
[00:37] <xstefen> unfortunately i must depart from the work place now, i will continue this tomorrow. thanks guys
[00:37] <wafflejock> xstefen: yup best of luck
[00:37] <xstefen> thanks, this is on my work pc that im doing this
[00:37] <xstefen> so ill be here tomorrow, later on guys
[00:42] <davertron> can anyone help with no audio? running 13.10, pavucontrol tells me audio is playing, alsamixer shows nothing is muted, but no audio is coming through
[00:43] <yofun> Hey would a bind9 service work on a home server?
[00:43] <wafflejock> davertron: sudo aptitude --purge reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils linux-image-`uname -r` linux-ubuntu-modules-`uname -r` libasound2   ............ having some minor issues with my mic input all else works but just ran this to reinstall ubuntu configuration since the mic had previously worked too
[00:44] <wafflejock> ^ that command wipes the audio config and reinstalls it
[00:46] <xiaojunyu> - -
[00:50] <davertron> wafflejock: is there a similar command using apt-get? or should i install aptitude (not currently installed)
[00:51] <wafflejock_> davertron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[00:51] <wafflejock_> davertron: got it there I just installed aptitude
[00:51] <wafflejock_> davertron: no effect though
[00:51] <wafflejock_> :(
[00:52] <wafflejock_> audio output works fine here, just problems with the mic input
[00:52] <wafflejock_> weird because I thought it was previously working... possibly was before I made the switch from Ubuntu -> Kubuntu though
[01:00] <acecabana> Can someone help me resolve my firefox dark window issues?
[01:00] <dannymichel> is the only way to re-enable the system tray by installing some app? http://goo.gl/NnrnSo
[01:03] <sam113101> how can I reinstall zsh's manpages?
[01:04] <glitsj16> dannymichel: you could use a PPA (13.10 and 13.04) https://launchpad.net/~timekiller/+archive/unity-systrayfix, works fine here (13.04)
[01:09] <pero> what's better for running some google properties (gmail, drive) as unity web apps - chrome or firefox?
[01:10] <pero> **chromium
[01:10] <xangua> pero: google optimizes it's product for google chrome if that is what you ask
[01:11] <pero> xangua: more or less. do you think there's a difference between chrome and chromium?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, I would be hesitant to add a ppa just for a tray there are several in the repos like the cairo-dock and others.
[01:11] <vacho> on a fresh VPS install of ubuntu,, how do I go about updating everything to make sure im solid?
[01:12] <pero> vacho: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:12] <vacho> pero thanks mate
[01:15] <vacho> how do I set a qualified domain name?
[01:16] <davertron> hmmm, reinstalling all the sound stuff didn't make a difference :(
[01:17] <wolfy1339> when i try to compile a c++ file that has include lua.h, it cannot find lua.h but i have lua installed and lua.h is there
[01:18] <davertron> wolfy1339, what are you typing to compile?
[01:18] <wolfy1339> it's a single c++ file for my irc bot's lua sandbox
[01:22] <estudiante> facebook
[01:22] <wolfy1339> davertron, it's a single c++ file for my irc bot's lua sandbox
[01:23] <phong_> hi can anyone help me how to setup svn ubuntu?
[01:23] <davertron> wolfy1339, can you show me the command you're using to compile please?
[01:23] <phong_> does anyone know how to install/setup subversion for ubuntu?
[01:24] <troy> Anyone here have any luck with optimus graphics and an external monitor
[01:24] <phong_> anyone?
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[01:24] <sam113101> how can I reinstall zsh's manpages?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: might be a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion
[01:24] <geoffm> how to activate word wrap in gedit?
[01:24] <phong_> i'm not good
[01:25] <phong_> reading
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> state you issued to the channel for help folks
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> your issues*
[01:25] <geoffm> unity seriously lack intuitive keyboard shortcuts learning
[01:25] <wolfy1339> davertron, it's something like "gcc -llua5.1 code.cpp" there was also a flag for pyhread i think it was
[01:25] <phong_> hitsujiTMO, help me?
[01:26] <davertron> and the lua libs are in the current directory?
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: i'm not familiar with svn on ubuntu unfortunately. It could help if you describe where you're stuch and someone might be able to chime in and help you
[01:26] <davertron> otherwise i think you have to use -I to specify the directory that lua.h is in
[01:26] <phong_> ok
[01:27] <xangua> geoffm: if you keep super pressed you can see the shortcuts
[01:27] <phong_> does anyone know how to install/setup the subversion for ubuntu???? please Teamviewer to my machine , i give you id/pass
[01:27] <xangua> phong_: you want some random stranger enter your machine¿
[01:27] <phong_> xangua, i dont care
[01:28] <xangua> oh my
[01:28] <phong_> xangua, will you able to help?..
[01:29] <wolfy1339> davertron, /usr/include/lua5.1/lua.h
[01:29] <wolfy1339>  is libs directory (which is correct) and i wil have to try that
[01:30] <geoffm> xangua: It's not enough, keyboard bindings need to be shown everywhere there is a command (menu and button tooltips) and binding letter should be underlined for all elements of dialog boxes
[01:31] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. How can Ubuntu 12.10 move ipod music off WITH METADATA from ios6?
[01:31] <davertron> wolfy1339, from looking at a makefile of mine, I was using g++, and I was manually adding dirs like "-I/usr/include/freetype2 -lfreetype"
[01:32] <wolfy1339> davertron, ok
[01:33] <apb1963> Running  ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I need to install java plugin for chrome. Is there a PPA?   I grabbed the tarball from Oracle...  untarred it... not sure where to go from here, there don't seem to be any instructions for ubuntu.
[01:34] <Sophie1> Is there any place that I can find a comprehensive list of introductory information to all sorts of essential linux knowledge?
[01:34] <wolfy1339> davertron, here is what it does when i run that command: http://pastebin.com/ESVVZrtA
[01:35] <davertron> wolfy1339, try this instead: gcc -llua5.1 -I/usr/include/lua5.1 code.cpp
[01:35] <geoffm> how do I minimize active window with keyboard?
[01:35] <davertron> wolfy1339, and then try g++ -llua5.1 -I /usr/include/lua5.1/lua.hcode.cpp
[01:35] <geoffm> how do I snap window to left side of the screen?
[01:35] <davertron> wolfy1339, sorry, I meant:  g++ -llua5.1 -I/usr/include/lua5.1 code.cpp
[01:36] <JordanJ2> geoffm, Drag it?
[01:36] <wolfy1339> gcc works
[01:36] <geoffm> Jordan_U: with keyboard
[01:36] <davertron> wolfy1339, cool, yeah you don't need to specify the exact file with -I, just where to look for it :)
[01:36] <wolfy1339> ok
[01:36] <davertron> wolfy1339, and you need a space between your params, so you had lua.hcode.cpp
[01:36] <JordanJ2> Not sure
[01:37] <xangua> apb1963: do you explicity need oracle java¿ openjdk is in repository
[01:37] <davertron> which won't work :)
[01:37] <geoffm> this is hell, I'm running this in a virtual box but I can't use Alt+Move or Mouse gestures because host machine steals kb modifiers and mouse right click
[01:38] <apb1963> xangua: No idea... went to a web page, it said I needed java... it popped up the little chrome install plugin thingy, I clicked and it sent me to oracle.
[01:39] <apb1963> xangua: so I downloaded the proper tarball,untarred it..... and that's where I am.
[01:40] <xangua> apb1963: ubuntu-restricted-extras package will install openjdk, flash plugin, video and audio codecs, extra fonts
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> apb1963: have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java thats the instructions for installing that tarball and setting up the java applet
[01:44] <phong_> xangua,
[01:44] <zykotick9> !manual | Sophie1 this is a good intro-ubuntu primer... if you haven't seen it.
[01:45] <phong_> does anyone know how to install/setup the subversion for ubuntu???? please Teamviewer to my machine , i give you id/pass  :  ID=496 825 048 Pass: 7886
[01:45] <phong_> please someone help me now :(
[01:45] <phong_> anyone?
[01:45] <Sophie1> Thanks :)
[01:46] <phong_> anyone?
[01:46] <phong_> here is my teamviewer info:   ID:496 825 048  and the pass is: 7886
[01:46] <phong_> please someone step up and help me
[01:46] <apb1963> hitsujiTMO: thank you.  It's downloading a pkg... so far so good.
[01:47] <apb1963> xangua: Thank you as well.
[01:47] <phong_> xangua, ?
[01:49] <phong_> hello?
[01:50] <phong_> hmm
[01:50] <adam_> phong_: sudo apt-get install subversion
[01:50] <adam_> you'll need your root password. I can't ask for that
[01:51] <phong_> i'll give
[01:51] <phong_> i dont care
[01:51] <adam_> just paste this in a terminal
[01:51] <adam_> ctrl+alt+t
[01:51] <adam_> then ctrl+shift+v to paste
[01:51] <phong_> adam_, there are more to it..
[01:51] <mezimezim> hello
[01:51] <phong_> installing and some thing with setup
[01:52] <econdudeawesome> exit
[01:52] <fboero> hi
[01:52] <mezimezim> does anyone know why the CAPS lock in Ubuntu is in fact a "shiflock"  ?
[01:52] <mezimezim> "shift lock"
[01:53] <mezimezim> is it due to linux kernel?
[01:53] <mezimezim> in any case it is improper and should be fixed
[02:00] <minimec> mezimezim: IMHO the caps lock function depends on the keyboard layout settings you use. For me CapsLock is working ok.
[02:04] <mezimezim> minimec: you mean that when you press caps lock and then type, for instance, "6", you DO get a "6"
[02:04] <minimec> mezimezim: Exactly.
[02:04] <mezimezim> on my side, I get a "?"
[02:04] <mezimezim> what is "IMHO"
[02:04] <mezimezim> ??
[02:04] <bindi> in my honest opinion
[02:04] <bindi> i wonder if ubottu knows it
[02:04] <bindi> !imho
[02:05] <mezimezim> minimec: then what would be your honest suggestion? :)
[02:05] <minimec> mezimezim: I have this layout. CapsLock sometimes even gives me a third option... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ#Switzerland_.28German.2C_French.2C_Italian.2C_Romansh.29.2C_Liechtenstein.2C_Luxembourg
[02:07] <nfm> Quick informal poll, would you recommend Quod Libet or Exaile? I'm looking more for speed and stability with a large amount of songs rather than eye candy.
[02:07] <minimec> mezimezim: Check settings keyboard layout. You can define the behaviour of the special keys too. You will find an 'options' button. Check that one.
[02:11] <phong_> i don't like the way the menu on 13.04...they should stick to the classic menu on top
[02:11] <phong_> i prefer ubuntu 10.04 menu
[02:11] <lucas-arg> hey guys, any idea how to get into a RCA NS24 bios??? ive tried rebooting and pressing F1-2-10-5 ETC Im going crazy
[02:13] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard. i tried it through one of the ubuntu machines, same thing happened, only the last session opened
[02:13] <XLV> had access to clipboard contents ... any remedies?
[02:13] <mezimezim> minimec: none of the options give me a 6 when I press "6" under locked cap.....
[02:14] <geoffm> unity sure is a lot of clicking around
[02:14] <xangua> phong_: you have xubuntu, kubuntu or lubuntu wich use a 'regular menu' there is also a 'clasic menu indicator' for unity http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[02:14] <Thunderkey> anyone had any luck with autocad 2010 and wine on ubuntu?
[02:16] <minimec> mezimezim: Are there some different layouts for your keyboard? TRy to add a new layout once and look for your country/language ...
[02:16] <xangua> there is algo gnome fallback mode wich is a gnome2 layout look alike phong_
[02:17] <phong_> xangua, is it free?
[02:18] <JimmyEggs> phong_, check out cinnamon (native to linux mint). 2.0 just came out. i'm running cinnamon 2 on arch linux. the features and maturity have come a long way.
[02:19] <phong_> JimmyEggs, link?
[02:19] <JimmyEggs> it won't hit the official linux mint release until next month
[02:19] <JimmyEggs> http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?paged=2
[02:20] <minimec> phong_: Cairo-dock could also be a handy solution... http://glx-dock.org/ww_page.php?p=Cairo-Dock%20Session&lang=en
[02:20] <phong_> JimmyEggs, cinnamon with eggs is perfect
[02:20] <JimmyEggs> lol
[02:22] <phong_> JimmyEggs, u're good with svn setup?
[02:22] <phong_> anyone?
[02:22] <JimmyEggs> phong_, sorry, no. not a dev. sysadmin/linux geek
[02:26] <glitsj16> phong_: have you tried looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion yet?
[02:26] <phong_> i dont understand
[02:26] <phong_> much
[02:26] <phong_> glitsj16, new to ubuntu
[02:27] <phong_> all i want is install and set it up to work..
[02:27] <phong_> then i use windows to work with it
[02:27] <phong_> glitsj16, can you help me?
[02:27] <phong_> i have teamviewer
[02:28] <glitsj16> phong_: not really no, i only use the svn command on occasion to checkout a particular svn, that's pretty much my knowledge of subversion
[02:28] <phong_> :)
[02:29] <phong_> i wish someone here will able to teamviewer me to help out :)
[02:31] <colonolGron> what does the login manager do?
[02:32] <colonolGron> just starting the x server?
[02:32] <minimec> phong_: Instead of asking a hundred times... Until now you would have read the tutorial and your svn server would be up and running. That community tutorial is straightforward...
[02:32] <colonolGron> and running x profile?
[02:35] <phong_> minimec, phong@phong:/home/svn$ sudo chown -R www-data:subversion myproject
[02:35] <phong_> chown: invalid group: ‘www-data:subversion’
[02:35] <phong_> what is that meant?
[02:35] <phong_> no clue now. stuck
[02:36] <minimec> phong_: Check /etc/group. Does the group 'www-data' exist?
[02:37] <phong_> phong@phong:/home/svn$ cd /etc
[02:37] <phong_> phong@phong:/etc$ cd group
[02:37] <phong_> bash: cd: group: Not a directory
[02:37] <mezimezim> thanks minimec, I'll try it out, now, time for bed, bonne nuit!!
[02:37] <minimec> phong_: 'sudo gedit /etc/group' It's a file ;)
[02:38] <phong_> minimec, and?
[02:38] <minimec> mezimezim: Bonne nuit aussi. Il est târd aussi ici...
[02:38] <phong_> it open a text file.
[02:39] <phong_> minimec, why is it so complicated..why can't you just teamviewer me and help out. :(
[02:40] <Sophie1> Is the file tree a different thing from the filesystem? Because I see that linux can use a lot of filesystems, but the layout of folders is the same?
[02:40] <pacy> :) enjoyable
[02:40] <minimec> phong_: First of all. I don't use teamviewer. And if you want to run a svn server, maybe it would be intelligent to set it up yourself. We call that learning curve... ;)
[02:40] <phong_> hahaha
[02:40] <phong_> minimec, you got me !  that's hurt man
[02:41] <minimec> phong_: You see. Quiet some time ago, I had to learn linux too. At that time there was no Ubuntu... ;) I started with SuSE and then Debian...
[02:41] <minimec> phong_: I had my learning curve...
[02:42] <phong_> i'm slow
[02:42] <phong_> you can learn and pick up
[02:42] <phong_> i probably read 10x still not picking it up
[02:43] <pacy> phong_: if you dont like the documentation (which i really dont undestand) try this http://oliverdavies.co.uk/blog/2011/10/install-and-configure-subversion-svn-server-ubuntu
[02:43] <minimec> phong_: It's all there... For your www-data problem, read 'Create SVN Repository' in that tutorial...
[02:44] <ianmac1> Sophie1, yes, the filesystem is different from the file tree. The file system describes the format of the hard drive or usb stick. The file tree is the layout of the software on the disk
[02:44] <minimec> phong_: Choose System > Administration > Users and Groups from your Ubuntu menu. Click the 'Manage Groups' button. ...
[02:45] <Sophie1> ianmac1 oh okay
[02:46] <pacy> i meant "what" not "which" - totally wrong expression :)
[02:46] <phong_> minimec,  idont know where is system
[02:46] <phong_> you meant system setting?
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | phong maybe you need to start with the basics
[02:47] <phong_> hmm
[02:47] <phong_> :(
[02:47] <ianmac1> phong_, We all had to start with the basics :)
[02:47] <phong_> why can't you just tell me?
[02:48] <minimec> phong_: I agree here. press the win <super> key and type users and groups
[02:48] <minimec> phong_: The tutorial is referring to the old ubuntu panel.
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: if we just tell you, then we're just reading line by line from the documentation. we've instad given you the documentation. we're here for support, but not to hold your hand every single step of the way
[02:49] <Alex171294> hola?
[02:49] <ianmac1> phong_, the reason most people like us to start with the basics is because if something breaks later we'll be better equipped to fix it rather than endless searching for answers.
[02:50] <ianmac1> Linux is not a destination, it's a journey :)
[02:50] <Alex171294> ping_
[02:50] <Alex171294> ping
[02:50] <Alex171294> !ping
[02:50] <Alex171294> >ping
[02:50] <JordanJ2> Hello, I am getting a kernep panic while syncing
[02:51] <Alex171294> bot
[02:51] <Alex171294> every where
[02:51] <Alex171294> xD
[02:51] <XLV> Alex171294 dont play ping pong with the bot
[02:51] <Alex171294> my bot is beautiful xD
[02:51] <Alex171294> i don't speak english :(
[02:51] <Alex171294> i speak spanish only
[02:52] <ianorlin> !es
[02:52] <minimec> phong_: And yet I do help you. You need to install the 'gnome-system-tools' first, to get the User and Group management in newer Ubuntu versions
[02:52] <Alex171294> thanks
[02:52] <Alex171294> i join ubuntu-es, bye!
[02:52] <minimec> phong_: see http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/users-and-groups-management-tool-on-ubuntu-13-04-13-10/
[02:52] <sakhr> who speak franch or englais or arabic ?
[02:52] <phong_> ok
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> !fr | sakhr
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> !ar | sakhr
[02:53] <ianorlin> that isn't arabic
[02:53] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, i guess ar is not arabic then
[02:53] <XLV> anyone speaking swahili?
[02:53] <pacy> :)
[02:55] <pacy> khoisan-languages  would be interesting, though
[02:56] <sakhr> who speak fr or ar ?
[02:57] <AlexLikeRock> debian more stable that  ubuntu                   http://distrowatch.com/
[02:57] <AlexLikeRock> 1 	Mint 	3379>
[02:57] <AlexLikeRock> 2 	Debian 	1964<
[02:57] <AlexLikeRock> 3 	Ubuntu 	1821<
[02:57] <FloodBot1> AlexLikeRock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> sakhr english only here. as i've pointed out already. #ubuntu-fr for french
[02:59] <minimec> wc 6
[03:00] <phong_> minimec, phong@phong:/home/svn$ sudo chown -R www-data:subversion myproject
[03:00] <phong_> [sudo] password for phong:
[03:00] <phong_> phong@phong:/home/svn$ sudo chmod -R g+rws myproject
[03:00] <phong_> phong@phong:/home/svn$
[03:00] <phong_> it works now
[03:00] <FloodBot1> phong_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <phong_> minimec, how to check the website to it?
[03:00] <phong_> how do i know if svn work or not?
[03:00] <minimec> phong_: As I said... 'learning curve'
[03:01] <minimec> phong_: Do a checkout...
[03:01] <phong_> how?
[03:01] <phong_> i meant can i view from website?
[03:01] <phong_> just view first then i use windows to check out
[03:01] <ianmac1> phong_, you'll need to visit the website's URL in a browser
[03:01] <dcope> hey all
[03:01] <phong_> ok
[03:02] <dcope> i'm not sure how / where to report this... but the version of monit in the 12.04 is really busted
[03:02] <TheyTookerJobs> Hi, when I try to create a partition on a new drive it tells me 'failed to add partition on device' The details do not show any additoinal details
[03:02] <TheyTookerJobs> I am trying to format it to ntfs so windows can see it as well
[03:02] <phong_> ianmac1, can't find the pate: https://localhost/myproject
[03:03] <ianmac1> phong_, do you have a web server on that machine?
[03:03] <phong_> ianmac1, i dont know
[03:03] <phong_> ianmac1, i'm noob man
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, With what app are you formatting?
[03:04] <TheyTookerJobs> The KDE Partition Manager
[03:04] <phong_> ianmac1, ??
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Is there a partition table, many new HD's have none.
[03:04] <ianmac1> phong_, if you don't know, then I'm relatiely sure you haven't installed a web server. you'll need to upload the website to a web hosting service and then visit it in a browser.
[03:05] <TheyTookerJobs> I installed one in it
[03:05] <JordanJ2> My kernel is panicking when I try to install ubuntu
[03:05] <phong_> ianmac1, not sure what you're talking about
[03:05] <TheyTookerJobs> I am just wondering if it's having issues because it's 3tb
[03:05] <phong_> ianmac1, i have to pay for hosting service?
[03:05] <JordanJ2> Can someone give me a hand?
[03:05] <ianmac1> phong_, that is why people suggested that you start with Linux basics and learn.
[03:05] <pacy> JordanJ2: is it like something "... not syncing ... unable to mount root fs...." ?
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, You have a uefi setup partially right,what type did you make?
[03:06] <JordanJ2> getting a screenshot :)
[03:06] <phong_> ianmac1, all i want is svn to work.
[03:06] <phong_> i dont need to learn nothing more
[03:06] <TheyTookerJobs> nah I have it on legacy. I made it into a GPT because I know MBR has issues with large drives
[03:06] <ianmac1> phong_, yes. you can't put a website on your computer and have it world readable unless you have a web server. otherwise you need to find a web hosting service.
[03:06] <phong_> not the world man
[03:07] <phong_> ianmac1, this is for personal use
[03:07] <ianmac1> then you need either a web host or install a web server
[03:07] <sashasparrow> i need to create a readable disc to run on windows, can anyone help?
[03:07] <phong_> :(
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Do you notice I use your nick, you can tab complete them try to use nicks.
[03:07] <phong_> can't you jsut help me out 1 time
[03:07] <JordanJ2> How ram/memory intensive is ubuntu 13.10?
[03:08] <ianmac1> phong_, how do you want me to help you? Explain what you want me to do
[03:08] <phong_> i don't use ubuntu...i just need the svn
[03:08] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: I know I just forget this channel is so busy. Sorry :)
[03:08] <phong_> i want to be able to do svn
[03:08] <phong_> source control
[03:08] <ianmac1> phong_, if you don't use Ubuntu then why are you in this channel?
[03:08] <phong_> obviously need help
[03:09] <sashasparrow> i have brasero, i have ubuntu saved to a flash drive, i just don't know what to do from there
[03:09] <ianmac1> phong_, this channel is Ubuntu support. And, since you don't use Ubuntu you should look for help elsewhere. Just my opinion.
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, No biggie. ;) can you show a screen shot of the kde partition manager, you have kparted as well right?
[03:09] <phong_> i do want svn to be in ubuntu man
[03:09] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, what kind of disc?
[03:10] <ianmac1> phong_, ok, then, first step.. install the latest Ubuntu release.
[03:10] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: I have not tried kparted. Trying gparted right now. Is there an easy way to know the difference between all of these programs or do they basically all do the same?
[03:10] <phong_> i have 13.04
 i don't use ubuntu...i just need the svn
[03:10] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, a readable disc from a flash drive
[03:10] <ianmac1> Could you make up your mind please?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: Whats the exact panic message? since you're worried abou memory. what exact hardware do you have?
[03:10] <phong_> i meant i dont use like you use ubuntu
[03:11] <phong_> i just want to have svn in ubuntu...then let the ubuntu sit doing nothing.
[03:11] <phong_> then i use windows machine
[03:11] <phong_> you dont get my point at all
[03:11] <sashasparrow> a boot disc, i guess?
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, I like gparted, kparted is the kde version I believe, can you show a screenshot, you have to be unmounted from the HD to make partitions, or any partitions you are resizing to do so.
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: its easier to setup an svn server on windows. why don't you do that?
[03:11] <phong_> hitsujiTMO, i dont know about it
[03:11] <phong_> what software for it?
[03:12] <phong_> and do i have to pay for it?
[03:12] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, what kind of disc are you trying to make? a live DVD?
[03:12] <phong_> since svn in ubuntu is free
[03:12] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: Sure I can take a screen print and thank you for your help as always :) To tell if it's mounted is that going to be df or mount?
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: ask in ##windows, there is free server software for it
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, I like screenshots cuts out the 20 questions and trying to visualize what might be there.
[03:12] <phong_> man
[03:12] <phong_> 1 thing lead to the next :(
[03:13] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, i guess so, i'm not entirely sure. a friend of mine installed windows 7 on a 2004 hp pavilion so i'm trying to clean up his boo-boo.
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> phong_: http://www.visualsvn.com/server/licensing/
[03:13] <ianmac1> phong_, welcome to the wonderful world of computers :)
[03:13] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, 1222MB I believe
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Gparted shows a key on the partition if mounted.
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: that should be enough to at least get it to run. what processor do you have?
[03:14] <minimec> hitsujiTMO: ianmac1: Shouldn't we be happy that yet another windows user is at least giving Ubuntu a chance. Why do you push him away now? Just my opinion... ;)
[03:14] <JordanJ2> pacy and hitsujiTMO http://puu.sh/5bTiC.png
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Were not you the one with the unallocated HD and used testdisk to get to a partition?
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> minimec: if he's willing to learn how to use ubuntu is one thing, but if he's just looking for someone else to do it for him is another
[03:15] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: I did not use testdisk - must have been someone else. Here is a screen print of my gparted for the drive: http://tinyurl.com/n63wmex
[03:15] <ianmac1> hitsujiTMO, +1
[03:16] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, what do i need to open in brasero to create a live dvd?
[03:17] <ianmac1> minimec, You have a point. But, I also remember the old saying "give a man a fish.."
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot | TheyTookerJobs thats not a screenie
[03:17] <minimec> hitsujiTMO: I agree with you. That's why we gave him that nice tutorial. He is working on it, but he is not patient enough. Typical first linux experience...
[03:17] <TheyTookerJobs> hah I knew it would be wrong. Okay one moment
[03:17] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, what boo-boo? do you want to overwrite Win7? dual boot? turn his 'puter into a paperweight? ;)
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> minimec: i'm sure he'll enentually give it a try when he has the patience
[03:18] <sashasparrow> hahahha ObrienDave , he doesn't have the capabilities to run win7 and i don't have a boot disc for winXP so i want to do an overwrite
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: what processor do you have? is there any messages above that line?
[03:19] <minimec> hitsujiTMO: ... and once he sees the 'beauty' of a unix based system, he might even want to see more.
[03:19] <minimec> ianmac1: Well you got the point with the 'fish' ;)
[03:20] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, did you just copy the Ubuntu ISO to the flash drive? Will his computer boot from a flash drive?
[03:21] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, No
[03:21] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/276141
[03:21] <JordanJ2> I am running it in VirtualBox
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: what processor do you have?
[03:21] <JordanJ2> Intel Core i5
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, So you made a a gpt table it has to be to see more than 2 tb?
[03:22] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: Yessir
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: what version of ubuntu is this?
[03:22] <JordanJ2> 13,10
[03:22] <JordanJ2> 10.`0
[03:22] <JordanJ2> 13.10*
[03:23] <pacy> JordanJ2: what kind of medium are you installing from ?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Cool so if you try to make a ntfs it errors can you do it and screenshot it?
[03:23] <phong_> so i got no help right?
[03:23] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: when I click to create a new partition table it does not give me the option of mbr vs gpt
[03:23] <phong_> i'mg oing to delete  my ubuntu :(
[03:23] <phong_> sadly.
[03:23] <JordanJ2> I selected the iso from VirtualBox
[03:23] <ianmac1> phong_, you received plenty of help here.. you just didn't want to do what it takes to learn.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, I think it may have a table, I'm not sure.
[03:24] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, let me switch IRC clients. BRB
[03:24] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: ah I think I figured it out! It really was not a gpt table. It's now partitioned! I just need to figure out how to mount it somewhere now
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, Cool, it can be confusing.
[03:24] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard. i tried it through one of the ubuntu machines, same thing happened, only the last session opened
[03:24] <XLV> had access to clipboard contents ... any remedies?
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: have you got vt-x enabled in your bios?
[03:25] <JordanJ2> Not sure.
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: first thing i'd look for
[03:25] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, ok, back
[03:25] <Sophie1> What was GRUB written in? Assembler?
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> Sophie1: c
[03:25] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, hello hello
[03:26] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, what file do you have on the flash drive? just the Ubuntu ISO?
[03:27] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave: okay, so let me see... i don't know if i have it as an iso yet, that's what i'm trying to make. it should boot from flash. i know i need to run it like a disc... idk i'm not good with explaining.
[03:28] <carba> I'm having trouble in Ubuntu GNOME 13.10 running Gnome 3.10. It might have to do with the update that occured a few minutes ago. I can't drag windows from Workspace1 to Workspace2 in Activities.
[03:28] <carba> Any input?
[03:29] <JordanJ2> I am in my bios and cannot find it hitsujiTMO
[03:29] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, ok, you just can't boot straight from the ISO. You must create a live install with the ISO
[03:30] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, so let's start by getting you to D/L and install unetbootin
[03:30] <geoffm> Where can I configure unity?
[03:30] <geoffm> is there a dconf-editor or something?
[03:32] <TheyTookerJobs> wilee-nilee: I need to add the drives UUID to /etc/fstab that I just created to automatically mount it right? How do I get that drives UUID?
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: it should be there somewhere. what type of bios is it? american megatrends?
[03:32] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, okay inside my flash drive i have:  boot, casper, dists, install, isolinux, pics, pool, preseed, readme.diskdefines, autorun.inf, md5sum.txt, ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386(1).iso, wubi.exe
[03:32] <JordanJ2> InsydeH20
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> !fstab | TheyTookerJobs yeah look here.
[03:33] <TheyTookerJobs> Thanks as always wilee-nilee!
[03:33] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, I assume the USB will not boot. have you tried that?
[03:33] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, i thought i could use brasero to create a live disc? was i wrong?
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> TheyTookerJobs, I don't have any auto mounting so I just look thid stuff on the net when needed myself.
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> this*
[03:34] <glitsj16> geoffm: the dconf-editor is part of the dconf-tools package, you might want to take a look at the unity-tweak-tool package as well
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: look under advanced -> intel virtualization
[03:34] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, it doesn't quite work that way
[03:35] <TheyTookerJobs> It's weird, most drives have a UUID with like 5 sets of numbers and this drive is only one set. Is that normal?
[03:35] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, brasero is just a burning utility
[03:35] <JordanJ2> I have no advanced, Information > Main > Security > Boot > Exit
[03:35] <geoffm> glitsj16, so unity uses dconf-tools too?
[03:35] <geoffm> (I'm quite familiar with gnome2-3, kde, xfce, cinnamon and mate but not unity)
[03:36] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, ohhhhh okay. well i just started installing it through the terminal so give me a minute and i should have it.
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: interesting. anything under main for intel virtualization?
[03:37] <JordanJ2> No
[03:37] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, brasero should be able to burn the ISO to a DVD, don't think it will work on USB
[03:37] <glitsj16> geoffm: correct, as unity is technically part of compiz you can even use ccsm (compizconfig-settings-manager) as well
[03:37] <JordanJ2> It's a Acer Aspire V6
[03:37] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, unetbootin is the easiest way to make a bootable USB
[03:37] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, okay so i think i've got unetbootin now, what do i do next?
[03:37] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, run it
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: looks like you've a restricted bios menu. what host os have you?
[03:38] <JordanJ2> Windows 8
[03:38] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, it's open... okay.
[03:38] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, at the bottom is where you select the ISO. the very bottom you should see the USB drive
[03:38] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: boot it up. install cpu-z and we'll see if vt-x is enabled or not
[03:39] <JordanJ2> Alright
[03:39] <geoffm> thanks glitsj16
[03:39] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, Select an ISO that is NOT on the USB. we're going to overwrite the USB
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/1.67-en.zip
[03:40] <glitsj16> geoffm: you're welcome, it takes some time getting the hang of unity, but at least it is configurable to some degree, best of luck
[03:40] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, got it. the newest version of ubuntu they have is 11.10 live, will that work?
[03:41] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, it's a bit old. I recommend getting a newer ISO the latest is 13.10
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> sashasparrow: or grab 12.04   thats the long term support version
[03:42] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, the newest ubuntu it'll let me load up is 11.10 live. i can look some more but idk
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> sashasparrow: what tool is this?
[03:42] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO: Which tab would it be under?
[03:42] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, no, that's the distro select. you need the ISO select at the bottom
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: look at CPU Tab. under instructions
[03:43] <sashasparrow> hitsujiTMO, unetbootin
[03:43] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, unetbootin
[03:43] <sashasparrow> oh hahaha herpderp ObrienDave
[03:43] <ObrienDave> LOL
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> ah ... old version of unetbootin then
[03:43] <TheyTookerJobs> er-mer-gerd I mounted my first hard drive. Hah a huge success for me a small laugh from yall :)
[03:43] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, transfer the ISO on the USB to your 'puter
[03:44] <sashasparrow> okie
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | TheyTookerJobs
[03:44] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, use THAT ISO to create the USB stick
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: is vt-x in that list?
[03:45] <sashasparrow> lkasjdflksj i don't even know what i'm doing i'm gonna disappear for a minute and work okay
[03:45] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, http://puu.sh/5bUGc.png
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: good news, vt-x isn't the problem.
[03:46] <JordanJ2> :D
[03:46] <JordanJ2> What would be?
[03:46] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, the right button on the ISO select line is the file requester window
[03:46] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, okay problem is... can i paste a tinypic link in here? i'll screenshot unetbootin and show you what i'm working with and maybe you can point me from there
[03:47] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, yes, a link would be fine
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: not sure. its an ivy bridge processor, so support shouldn't be an issue
[03:48] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, If it helps my host system has 12GB ram
[03:49] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: that defo shouldn't be a problem.   have you made any changes from the default setup for vbox?
[03:49] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, brb, coffee ;)
[03:49] <JordanJ2> Selected iso, changed memory
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: can you try vmware player. i find them easier to work with on windows hosts
[03:51] <NotreDev> what's the impact of having an ssh known_host in the root's file vs a user's file?
[03:51] <JordanJ2> Give me a few minutes
[03:53] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, back
[03:53] <hitsujiTMO> NotreDev: why are you sshing to or from the root user?
[03:53] <NotreDev> hitsujiTMO: i'm not, i want a host to be known universally
[03:53] <NotreDev> specifically a bitbucket host
[03:53] <NotreDev> i want all users to know it
[03:53] <sashasparrow> yeargh
[03:54] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, did you get my link?
[03:54] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:55] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, have you transferred the ISO to your 'puter?
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> NotreDev: look at GlobalKnownHostsFile http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/ssh_config.5.html
[03:56] <wheatthin> hitsujiTMO, I just jumped in, but it sounds to me like you want to setup the /etc/hosts file or create a dns server.
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> wheatthin: nope
[03:58] <sashasparrow> which file do i transfer, ObrienDave ?
[03:59] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, the ISO that is on the USB. ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386(1).iso
[03:59] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, move that to your 'puter
[04:01] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, select that ISO to use for creating the live USB
[04:01] <sean-w> This last kernel update 3.8.0-33-generic broke DKMS. How do I fix it?
[04:02] <sashasparrow> it's saying i don't have the iso on my desktop, ObrienDave
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> sean-w, Do you have dkms installed?
[04:03] <sean-w> wilee-nilee: yes. dkms status
[04:03] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, you'll have to find it where you transferred it to.
[04:03] <sean-w> Error! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
[04:03] <sean-w> File:  does not exist.
[04:03] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, you might have to refresh the directory
[04:03] <darkangel> Hey is it Possible to run Kernel 3.11.0 in Ubuntu 12.04.3?
[04:04] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, okay i'm sorry i sound so dippy, haha. but when i go through unetbootin and select my desktop it says i don't have anything on there at all?
[04:04] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, where did you put the ISO?
[04:04] <sashasparrow> ObrienDave, on my desktop
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, Not supported here
[04:04] <sashasparrow> FOUND IT FUCK YEAH
[04:05] <vivalavisca> I am so happy to join the ubuntu community
[04:05] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, language please
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> sean-w, You might purge dkms and reinstall
[04:05] <sashasparrow> sorry.
[04:05] <darkangel> ok?
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, Install it if it does not run remove it.
[04:06] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, ok, press OK in unetbootin. it should start the process. will take a minute or so
[04:06] <darkangel> mmk
[04:06] <vivalavisca> does anyone know how to setup shortcut to indicator-synapse
[04:06] <darkangel> thx any ways =) peace
[04:06] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, working?
[04:07] <vivalavisca> can someone help me with indicator-synapse
[04:07] <sean-w> Is there any way to downgrade to the next recent kernel without access to the boot menu?
[04:07] <sashasparrow> i'm out of space, ObrienDave
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> sean-w, You can change the default kernel.
[04:07] <sashasparrow> ugh hang on i'm gonna try something else, brb
[04:08] <West> Does any one believe Ubuntu 14.04 will be a stable copy of 13.10 ? I don't believe it would be wise to use adware in an LTS release.
[04:08] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, what size is the USB?
[04:08] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, I cannot find how to create a virtual machine
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> West, Not even close to channel topic.
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> which is support
[04:09] <sashasparrow> 2gb ObrienDave hahaha. kms
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> vivalavisca: if you're referring to a keyboard shortcut, unfortunately, it only exists the the later versions and is apparently hard coded as ALT+SUPER+SPACE
[04:09] <West> wilee-nilee: does Ubuntu even have a channel to discuss this ?
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> West: #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> West, #ubuntu-offtopic probably
[04:10] <West> wilee-nilee: thank you.
[04:10] <sashasparrow> i'm trying something else and if it doesn't work, his "computer genius" uncle can fix it for him.
[04:10] <dragonjunkies> hi
[04:10] <sashasparrow> this is the same guy who put win7 on a 7 year old machine in the first place.
[04:10] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2013483
[04:11] <dragonjunkies> does anyone know how to allow non-root user to open a port?
[04:11] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, that should be enough for Ubuntu. did it ask you to overwrite the USB? if so, select YES to all
[04:11] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, I do not have a disc drive
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> dragonjunkies: do you mean a priviledged port?
[04:12] <sashasparrow> i'm trying this first, but you've been amazingly helpful. i can remember what you told me to do and do it over if this doesn't work.
[04:12] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, it might say something like "something, something already exists"
[04:12] <dragonjunkies> hitsujiTMO: just normal tcp port
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: it should allow you to mount an iso.
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> dragonjunkies: they can do that anyway
[04:13] <sashasparrow> i remember seeing that. i'm gonna try this, like i said, but i know who to talk to if it goes wiggity on me. <3 thank you!
[04:13] <dragonjunkies> hitsuji: weird, could it be because i'm using mono?
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: if not , windows 8 can mount the iso, and you can use that as you disc drive
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> dragonjunkies: what port is it?
[04:14] <dragonjunkies> 15005
[04:14] <dragonjunkies> mono spit out exception saying, AccessDenied =/
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> dragonjunkies: weird. you should be allowed. once its not 1024 or less
[04:16] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, Is VMWare workstation ok?
[04:16] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, once the USB is done, try booting with it. if that does not work, you can burn the ISO to DVD. brasero will burn the ISO properly. It does NOT support USB sticks
[04:17] <maxiaojun> can anyone help verify the sru for utf8 file names issue of unzip? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unzip/+bug/1199239
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: thats a paid for app, but really good (i use it)
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> dragonjunkies: is the port used by something else? netstat -a | grep 15005
[04:18] <ObrienDave> sashasparrow, transferring the ISO as a file to the DVD will NOT work. you must burn the ISO image to create the live DVD
[04:19] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, That's okay =P
[04:20] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, did you get your 3TB drive to work?  was involved in another issue
[04:20] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, Can VMWare workstation support x64?
[04:20] <dragonjunkies> hitsujiTMO: it's unused X_X
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: ofc
[04:20] <JordanJ2> Virtualbox didn't
[04:21] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: I sure did! :) Transferring everything back to it now
[04:21] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: virtualbox wont if you don't have vt-x enabled
[04:21] <ObrienDave> JordanJ2, my Vbox supports x64. no prob
[04:21] <JordanJ2> Odd, it told me it didn't
[04:22] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, I have a Western Digital 3TB out of the enclosure. I can't get it to format or partition the whole 3TB
[04:23] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: When you go into gparted and choose the drop down on the top right corner is it atleast being recognized?
[04:23] <dragonjunkies> hitsujiTMO: i figured the the problem, it's actually smtp server port that i actually tried to open
[04:23] <dragonjunkies> my bad
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: hmm, maybe cpu-z was incorrectly reporting vt-x as being enabled. 2 secs, ill look to see if theres another tool to check
[04:24] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, I have to use a USB to SATA adapter. could that be part of the problem?
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | dragonjunkies
[04:24] <researcher> my laptop suddenly stopped playing audio. When I checked sound setting the INPUT bar is active with all 100% sound
[04:24] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: switch it to gpt  or use gdisk on it
[04:24] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: Nah it should still pick it up. That's one of the beautiful things about linux. If you go sudo gparted (you might have to install it using apt-get first) there's a drop-down in the top right do you see the drive?
[04:25] <researcher> does any one knows how to get sound in laptop?
[04:25] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, yep, but it still shows 796GB. let me fire it up. brb
[04:25] <Ticked> [23:20] <Ticked> Can some one please help me with a linux problem with debian wheezy before I beat my laptop agenst the wall
[04:26] <dragonjunkies> hitsujiTMO: thx man for pointing that possibility, you are the man! :D
[04:27] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: are you running a 64bit flavor? Also there is usually some options in BIOS that need to be enabled for large hard drives
[04:27] <dragonjunkies> ticket: what problem do you have?
[04:27] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, yes, Xubuntu 64
[04:28] <Ticked> [23:20] <Ticked> Can some one please help me with a linux problem with debian wheezy before I beat my laptop agenst the wall
[04:28] <researcher> my laptop sound sudddenly stopped playing since a week.But it was perfect before that week
[04:28] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, looked through my BIOS many times. no options like that
[04:28] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: Okay just checking. Did you check your BIOS settings? I know my laptop and desktop both have a hard drive interface. I think it's IDE, Raid, and ahci?
[04:29] <TheyTookerJobs> Yeah Achi
[04:29] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: damn, can't find any other tools for windows. if you install the vmware workstation trial( you can update this to full product later if needed) you can go to the advanced processor settings to see if vt-x is enabled. if not you'll need to contact acer for a bios with it enabled
[04:29] <Ticked> Anyone know thy gnome is takeing screenshots every time I click the mouse button
[04:29] <TheyTookerJobs> Actually only SSD's need achi. Even 3TB should be able to utilize legacy or ide
[04:29] <Thunderkey> Ticked: what kind of problem are you having?
[04:30] <Thunderkey> ticked: right or left mouse button?  does it do it on both?
[04:31] <Ticked> Thunder key the pointer for the mouse turns into a + shape and takes screen shots every time I click something and will not stop
[04:31] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, Where would I find that
[04:31] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, gparted gives me 746.52G unallocated
[04:31] <JordanJ2> Edit > Preferences?
[04:31] <Ticked> Turnkey yes
[04:31] <xmetal> hmm a screen capturing program running in the background it sounds like
[04:31] <xmetal> (check the "system tray")
[04:31] <Ticked> Thunder key yes
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: after you go to create the vm, you should have a list of the parts in the vm. under the processor you'll find that
[04:32] <Thunderkey> ticked: have you used gnome-screenshot recently?
[04:32] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: are you trying to boot off this drive or is it an extra?
[04:32] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, extra
[04:32] <kskdfmdkf> is there any way to convert a primary partition to logical partition,without data loss, like in EASYUS in windows,
[04:32] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, back in a few
[04:33] <xmetal> i am guessing gparted should do that, kskdfmdkf
[04:33] <Thunderkey> ticked: is your mouse pointer staying as a crosshair?
[04:33] <xmetal> !gparted
[04:33] <Ticked> Thunderkey no it is a fresh install have done screen shots I uninstalled screenshots last night and still didn't stop it I am going to go nuts
[04:33] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, http://puu.sh/5bWFB.png
[04:34] <kskdfmdkf> i have it installed in UBUNTU
[04:34] <Ticked> Thunderkey yes it is
[04:34] <xmetal> from the sound of this issue, it sounds like a constant screencap program is running
[04:34] <kskdfmdkf> xmetal: gparted is installed already
[04:34] <xmetal> ah, then there you go
[04:34] <xmetal> that SHOULD work
[04:34] <xmetal> (gparted)
[04:34] <Thunderkey> ticked: it sounds like a key binding that isn't stopping.  let me try something on my end real quick.
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: hmm, you should be ok. normall it would give you a warning if vt-x wasn't supported.
[04:35]  * xmetal agrees with Thunder
[04:35] <xmetal> i guess thats in a way what i was trying to get at
[04:35] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, Seems like it's doing a network boot
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, Logical is being inside a extended.
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> is for*
[04:36] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: did you click "connected at power on" when you gave it the iso file?
[04:36] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee: yes
[04:36] <Ticked> Thunderkey there is only one way that found to stop it until I reboot and login agen is to go to the top right hand corner to activity  sand click really fast and opening activitys and when I logout and then back in it is back agen
[04:37] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, It is checked, yes
[04:37] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, back
[04:37] <JordanJ2> Should it be unchecked?
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, You have the same space in an extended for it copy and paste the data in gparted or in the OS.
[04:37] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: Okay, open up gparted and choose the disk. Go to Device and Create Partition Table. Make sure you click advance and create it in GPT
[04:37] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: try the 32bit iso and see if its the same behaviour
[04:37] <JordanJ2> It was 32 bit >_>
[04:37] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee: i see three partition, one is extended and other are not extended, it means, others are primary
[04:37] <kskdfmdkf> ??
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, that's reaaaaaaally weird.
[04:38] <JordanJ2> Still network booting
[04:38] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, You make any of these?
[04:38] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, installing gdisk
[04:38] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: can you take a screenshot of the cd settings
[04:38] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee:  i made them in windows
[04:39] <kskdfmdkf> i have a dual boot system
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, Probably primaries outside the extended yes, a screenshot would help here.
[04:39] <xmetal> hmm channel hopping + studying + web surfing ... i need more java
[04:39] <xmetal> (coffee)
[04:39] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee: i can do that with EASY US partition master but i am looking for a stable application in Ubuntu
[04:39] <kskdfmdkf> okay
[04:40] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, http://puu.sh/5bWUo.png
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: connected at power on is not ticked
[04:40] <JordanJ2> It changed it
[04:40] <xmetal> i thought there was a primary partition (with data) that you wanted to convert to a logical partition without losing data
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, Heh, I think you looking for directions
[04:40] <xmetal> (or extended ... w/e)
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> your*
[04:40] <JordanJ2> Working fine after checked
[04:40] <Thunderkey> ticked: I don' know.  That has gotten me stumped.  Hopefully someone else on this channel can figure that out.
[04:41] <glitsj16> maxiaojun: late response, but i can confirm the fix works fine on raring (unzip 6.0-8ubuntu2)
[04:41] <JordanJ2> Thank you hitsujiTMO
[04:41] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: np
[04:41] <hitsujiTMO> hopefully that will work ok for you now
[04:41] <JordanJ2> Hopefully ^^
[04:41] <peepsalot> i have a problem with fullscreen not working on many flash videos (youtube seems to work, but not hardly any other sites)
[04:41] <Ticked> Thunderkey I am a half inch from taking my laptop to the shooting range and using for a target
[04:41] <xmetal> did you say you just removed a screen capturing program recently?... is that when this issue stasrted?... (maybe this is my MS mentality showing) but perhaps (via software manager or package manager a reinstall and uninstall of that packages manager would help
[04:42] <xmetal> oops ...
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: you can use the vm in vmware player too, just so you know
[04:42] <xmetal> i meant reinstall and uninstall of the screen cap program
[04:42] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee: i am looking for a good application that can do the same task in Ubuntu
[04:42] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, gdisk shows 746.5G
[04:42] <JordanJ2> Okay
[04:43] <JordanJ2> How does Ubuntu run with 2GB RAM?
[04:43] <Thunderkey> ticked: ohh don't do that.  i am sure it is something as simple as a modification using terminal, but it is beyond me at this point.
[04:43] <hitsujiTMO> peepsalot: fullscreen flash is buggy for everyone (crashes my machine frequently, even the pepper player) :)
[04:43] <Ticked> Thunderkey I don't know if this helps any at all one time I was playing with kali linux and the problem never happend I know on some distros like kali vs debian they are built on the same base and is something in debian that I can uninstall
[04:43] <intrader> Anyone, to answer an earlier question: how to permanently change PATH. As sudo I edited /etc/environment and that worked after reboot
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: should be fine i rarely go over 2gb on this machine
[04:44] <xmetal> wasn't back trace (old name for kali) based on ubuntu now?
[04:44] <xmetal> ever since version 4 i think
[04:44] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: What does gdisk show? I just read online that gparted has issues with some drives...
[04:44] <JordanJ2> hitsujiTMO, What do you go with?
[04:44] <xmetal> i have BT 3 here somewhere ... i cant remember what that was based on
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: does depend on what you're running on it ofc.
[04:45] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, gdisk shows 746.5G
[04:45] <kskdfmdkf> wilee-nilee: I know easy US is a freeware but this can also be implemented in UBuntu as well, i am trying to install ubuntu  remotely via team viewer, i want another user's minimal attention and minimum restarts and a ready to use system from my end
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> kskdfmdkf, All you have to do is move the data, thats what your tool would do I believe. it has to have an extended so it would have to build one around the primary, not really a likely thing.
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: i usuall have chrome with 30 tabs open (not joking) sublime text, hexchat, nginx, uwsgi, postgresql
[04:46] <Ticked> Thinderkey do you happen to know of some other linux help chats I may try or maybe a ballpark of what to try and google for it ?
[04:46] <JordanJ2> How much RAM is it run with?
[04:46] <hitsujiTMO> 4gb, but rarely goes over 2gb
[04:47] <JordanJ2> Ah
[04:47] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: best you can always change the amount of ram on the vm at any stage
[04:48] <Thunderkey> ticked: do you use bonobo or any of the other tools in gnome-utils?
[04:49] <kskdfmdkf> it is a good idea not to let user mess with partitions in windows & i am also trying to save my time. Installing partition master in windows, changing partitions, reboot and again get into ubuntu for installation, http://imagebin.org/276147 i want to change /dev/sda2 to logical, how to do that, resize or move??
[04:49] <Thunderkey> ticked: if you don't, you can always go into terminal and try sudo apt-get remove gnome-utils
[04:49] <TheyTookerJobs> ObrienDave: Hrm, I am so new to linux :( Mine was recognized as 2.7TB which I was okay with. I just had to initialize it as GPT and not MBR. I really don't know :( I wonder if the bot has something on it...
[04:49] <TheyTookerJobs> !3tb
[04:49] <TheyTookerJobs> nope
[04:50] <ObrienDave> TheyTookerJobs, k, thanks anyway
[04:51] <TheyTookerJobs> Sorry. Good luck though
[04:51] <Thunderkey> ticked: you could also try the #ubuntu-gnome channel and see if someone there has an idea.  sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: whats the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[04:52] <Ticked> Thunderkey honestly I don't know what is installed I just finished this install about 30min ago it is just a straight factory install and it happens after I finished setting wireshark up to allow non root users to capture packets the command I gave that started it was gnome-session-quit --logout --no-prompt and the on login it started but last night before I reinstalled the os it started it after installing windows 8 in virtual box
[04:52] <JordanJ2> kskdfmdkf, out of pure curiousity is that OpenSuSe?
[04:52] <kskdfmdkf> Jordanj2; ubuntu with kde DESKTOP
[04:52] <JordanJ2> Ah
[04:53] <TheyTookerJobs> kubuntu?
[04:53] <xmetal> same thing
[04:54] <Ticked> Thinderkey I thank you for trying but remove info the apps you was talking about what all would I lose from doing that I  trying everything I am going nuts from this
[04:55] <kskdfmdkf> TheyTookerJobs: yes, kubuntu desktop with ubuntu and lxde session also installed
[04:55] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380161/
[04:55] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, sdc is the 3TB drice
[04:55] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: which is the 2+ tb hdd?
[04:56] <ObrienDave> *drive
[04:56] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: the hardware itself is reporting otherwise
[04:56] <intrader> Anyone, I have installed freemind 1.0.0, changed JAVA_HOME and PATH to point to the java jre (I had installed Eclipse with oracle java), and start freemind via open. Freemind opes, its icon shows in launcher, but this icon disappears when I quit freemind. I would like the icon to stay in launcher; I tried 'Lock to Launcher' but this kills the application and it terminates. I wonder what is the matter?
[04:57] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, yes, I have to use a USB to SATA adapter
[04:57] <Ticked> hitsujiTMO CTCP VERSION?? Little lost on what that is
[04:58] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, I don't have any SATA cables to hook it up to a desktop
[04:58] <hitsujiTMO> the caddy should not effect what the hdd is reporting.
[04:59] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: can you install sg3-utils
[04:59] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, not in a caddy. the WD interface took a dump on me
[04:59] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, will try
[05:00] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: once you have, tell me the output of: sudo sginfo -s /dev/sdc
[05:00] <ObrienDave> k
[05:01] <ObrienDave> No serial number (bad format for supported VPDs)
[05:01] <JordanJ2> Oh geez hitsujiTMO workstation is fast
[05:01] <kongthap> hi, after upgrading to ubuntu 13.10, i cannot  access the shut shutdown applet from the panel, i did restart, i only can shutdown via terminal, please help
[05:01] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sda | grep SerialNo
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: its pretty sweet alright, i use that and esxi
[05:02] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, Model=SAMSUNG HM500JI, FwRev=2AC101C4, SerialNo=S208JDSZ402479
[05:02] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: sorry: sudo hdparm -i /dev/sdc | grep SerialNo
[05:03] <ObrienDave> SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]:  70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[05:03] <ObrienDave>  HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: Invalid argument
[05:03] <ObrienDave> anticipated that ;)
[05:03] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: you've a really crappy usb -> sata adapter it seems
[05:03] <kskdfmdkf> i want to improve read write performance to my ext4 partition, how to improve it
[05:04] <hitsujiTMO> kskdfmdkf: put it on a ssd
[05:04] <kskdfmdkf> i read somewhere to disable writeback somewhere
[05:04] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: no, i don't have SSD
[05:05] <JordanJ2> Ubuntu installed great ^^
[05:05] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, that does not surprise me. CoolMAX
[05:05] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: i want it should be equal to windows SSD performance
[05:06] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: no, windows NTFS performance
[05:07] <ObrienDave> kskdfmdkf, you want SSD performance in a normal HD?
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> kskdfmdkf: is there a measurable difference on your system. there shouldn't be. in fact ext4 should in theory outperform ntfs
[05:08] <kskdfmdkf> ObrienDave: no, it was mistyped, i want performance equal to or better than NTFS, AS I AM getting better speed in WIndows of the same drive
[05:08] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: that's what i want exactly
[05:08] <darkangel> well wow 3.11 Kernel from 13.10 Ubuntu actually works in Ubuntu 12.04.3 =)
[05:09] <kskdfmdkf> i am using ubuntu 12.04
[05:09] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: but i want better speed practically
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> kskdfmdkf: you could set relatime, disable barriers, change the journaling method to data=writeback, but that just really converts it to ext2
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> kskdfmdkf: have a look at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt for the various options
[05:11] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: a newer kernel shouldn't make too much of a difference. the only reason why you'd want it is for driver support
[05:12] <WhiteStarEOF> Quick question. I believe there's a pretty tricky inaccuracy in the online documentation. Where can I go to bring that to someone's attention?
[05:12] <darkangel> or just stay with the Latest Bug fixes
[05:12] <Ticked> [00:04] <Ticked> Please someone tell me they can tell me how to make a problem with my linux system stop I am using gnome desktop 3.4.2 debian wheezy stable I just finished a fresh install and install some of the apps I play around with and I logged out and the back into gnome 3 and the mouse pointer is shaped like cross hairs and is taking screenshots of everything I click and I am about to flip my lid and go nuts over this
[05:12] <darkangel> and speed
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> ObrienDave: but yeah, if your converter is doing that, then i'd be afraid of what kind of damage it could potentially do to the disk
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> Ticked: try the #debian support. this is ubuntu support
[05:14] <Ticked> No one there
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> ticked there's 1338 people there
[05:16] <ObrienDave> hitsujiTMO, fortunately this was a second 3TB mirror of another 3TB. didn't lose anything important ;)
[05:16] <ObrienDave> 1339 ;)
[05:17] <ObrienDave> oops ;)
[05:17] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: bug fixes get applied to the 12.04 kernels too. the only bug fixes that get applied to 3.11 kernel and not 3.2,3.5,3.8 are for things that don't exist in those kernels
[05:18] <darkangel> ahh but surely is faster lolz
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: the only kernel that you should be thinking about jumping to is 3.12 if you use 3d acceleration. as theres a lot of new features gone in there for it.
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: ofc, its not released yet, but when it is released
[05:19] <darkangel> ok thx for the news +)
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: oh wait, 3.12 just went stable :)
[05:21] <darkangel> sweet... Ill check it out
[05:22] <WhiteStarEOF> I need to get to bed, so I'm just going to drop this in here. From the online documentation, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/iscsi-initiator.html The very last bit about adding the iSCSI drive to fstab will render a server unbootable. According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Options the _netdev only applies to entries with an NFS fstype.
[05:23] <WhiteStarEOF> So hopefully someone can poke that documentation with a sharp stick. I am off to bed. Nighty night!
[05:27] <medajke> Hi guys, I'm new to use ubuntu 13.04
[05:27] <medajke> and got a problem with drivers
[05:28] <darkangel> What Drivers and whats the problem?
[05:28] <medajke> I have a netbook Gateway
[05:28] <medajke> CPU: Intel Atom N2600
[05:28] <hitsujiTMO> !details | darkangel
[05:28] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: theres no gpu driver
[05:29] <medajke> Intel Graphics: Media Accelerator 3600
[05:30] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: yes, thats made by powervr and they don't release drivers for linux, (or 64bit windows)
[05:30] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: you're stuck with the crappy vesa driver
[05:31] <medajke> before I downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 (already with some drivers) - that version works much faster than 13.04 (without drivers)
[05:32] <darkangel> Is 3.12 kernel supported by Ubuntu i mean does it get Kernel Upgrades?
[05:32] <hitsujiTMO> unity requires 3d acceleration. the vesa driver does NOT do 3d acceleration. 12.04 and 12.10 had a fallback 2d unity experience
[05:33] <kskdfmdkf1> kskdfmdkf: i read somewhere to improve EXT4 performance by disabling barrier, writeback something, i followed them, but not getting any improvement in performance
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: not officially supported, but there are mainline builds.
[05:33] <darkangel> ahh ok
[05:33] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/linux-kernel-3-12-released-install-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> darkangel: its a do at your own risk
[05:34] <medajke> Is somebody know about Chrome OS - or anyway I will not get any drivers for my laptope
[05:34] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: its a case of either stick with 12.04, or use 13.10 with a different desktop enviroment (xfce, lxde, etc)
[05:35] <darkangel> ok thx...
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: there's #chromium-os maybe or ##linux
[05:37] <zhaobingfeng> hello
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[05:39] <zhaobingfeng> NickServ REGISTER 0672130358 zhaobingfeng@163.com
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> !register | zhaobingfeng
[05:39] <zhaobingfeng> clear
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> zhaobingfeng, change the password lol
[05:40] <ObrienDave> now that ALL of IRC knows what it is ;)
[05:40] <zhaobingfeng> oh
[05:40] <darkangel> well Kernel 3.12 is a Confirm on workin in Ubuntu 12.04.3
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, You wont get updates outside of precise, so none above that.
[05:41] <darkangel> ok
[05:50] <medajke> hello. I'm using ubuntu 13.04 - but there not have drivers for my laptop ... and won't get back to windows os. Looking for some different os . Will a get problem with drivers for (CPU: Intel Atom N2600 and Intel Graphics Intel Mobile Accelerator 3600 )  ? thx
[05:51] <medajke> whats is the best way for me, in thats situation
[05:51] <Help> Can some one help me with a linux problem
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> medajke, generally an intel runs off the bat, what are the actual problems? Have you looked in additional drivers?
[05:52] <kingbeowolf> hi i can login to my guest account but not my main account
[05:52] <kingbeowolf> how can i fix it?
[05:53] <kingbeowolf> please help
[05:53] <fahadash> Hi
[05:53] <kingbeowolf> i think it is a problem with x
[05:53] <kingbeowolf> because i can login from tty prompt
[05:53] <fahadash> My ubuntu 12.4 LTS became slow as hell on unity after I added xfce DE and custom-themed it
[05:53] <kingbeowolf> when i successfully login it just sends me right back to the login prompt
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> kingbeowolf, Some details like what led to this helps for the channel, did it ever works helps.
[05:54] <kingbeowolf> wilee-nilee: it worked before
[05:54] <kingbeowolf> i typed startx in a terminal after trying to get my crossfire working
[05:54] <kingbeowolf> thats what caused the issues
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: there's a file in your home dir ... .xsession-errors     is there any details there?
[05:57] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: also can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> kingbeowolf, I know nothing about crossfire but others may details are the key here.
[06:01] <medajke> yup I have been open Additional Drivers, but there shows me just wireless driver - nothing else, and I can't to find any drivers for my laptop - so slow - unreal to use
[06:01] <kc97ble> hello everyone
[06:01] <Yzguy> Hello
[06:02] <Yzguy> not very chatty huh
[06:03] <ObrienDave> we're very chatty when you need support
[06:03] <cfhowlett> too late
[06:03] <ObrienDave> dang, hate when that happens LOL
[06:03] <geoffmcc> medajke: i dont have intel graphics, or 13.04, but i found this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/intel-linux-graphics-installer.html
[06:04] <medajke> thx, will try to do something
[06:06] <kongthap> in ubuntu 13.10, how can i access this screen "https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-11/Menu_005.png", i want to setup grave accent to switch input source
[06:06] <geoffmcc> medajke: didn't notice you said slow, that link is just for graphics
[06:08] <medajke> yup, what can i do yet
[06:11] <kingbeowolf> wilee-nilee: its hard to post that stuff from a tty
[06:11] <kingbeowolf> wilee-nilee: are you looking for something i can look for?
[06:11] <hitsujiTMO> medajke: I already stated that there is no driver available for your gpu: info here: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/83
[06:11] <leif_> what is the irc for sever tech on ubuntu
[06:12] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|leif_,
[06:13] <leif_> thanks
[06:13] <kingbeowolf> wilee-nilee: it says cannot connect to britty
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> kingbeowolf, Not really I have no clue of the problem, I was trying to have you realize that "please help" means nothing but details do. This is a slow time of day for the channel so no one as of now recognizes any answers it seems is all.
[06:15] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: can you install pastebinit   you can use that to post the info
[06:15] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[06:15] <kingbeowolf> wilee-nilee: i just tryed to regenerate my xorg file see if that works
[06:17] <medajke> Checking if Intel graphics card available... Failed
[06:17] <medajke>  i'm stuck
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> medajke, This unity? what release?
[06:18] <medajke> Graphics Installer for Ubuntu* 13.04, 32-bit
[06:19] <medajke> Intel(R) Graphics Installer 1.0.2 for Linux*
[06:19] <medajke> Details
[06:19] <medajke> Release Date:
[06:19] <medajke> 31 Jul 2013
[06:19] <medajke> Version:
[06:19] <medajke>     1.0.2
[06:19] <FloodBot1> medajke: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> medajke, Unity desktop?
[06:19] <medajke> sorry
[06:20] <kingbeowolf_> wilee-nilee: ok tried regenerated xorg.conf
[06:20] <kingbeowolf_> wilee-nilee: it didn't help
[06:20] <kingbeowolf_> wilee-nilee: it must be something specific in my file
[06:20] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: can you post ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> kingbeowolf_, telling me is a waste of time.
[06:21] <medajke> how to open/use --   xorg.conf
[06:22] <medajke> sorry it's was't to me
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> medajke, Here is a reset for compiz in the unity desktop try it if its the desktop you have. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> users have had some problems on install
[06:24] <kingbeowolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380442/
[06:24] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380442/
[06:25] <medajke> ok
[06:25] <medajke> thx
[06:26] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: you get it?
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeast: can you post: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> medajke, here is a link that might be worth going through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=N2600  How much ram do you have?
[06:27] <medajke> 2 gb
[06:28] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380450/
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> medajke, You have not answered what desktop as of yet. There are lighter desktops like lubuntu that should run better or even xubuntu.
[06:28] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: is that all thats in your lightdm file? and are you infact using xubuntu?
[06:29] <kongthap> in ubuntu 13.10, how can i access this screen "https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-11/Menu_005.png", i want to setup grave accent to switch input source
[06:29] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: yes i just pastebin the file
[06:29] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: pastebinit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> medajke, That is not the fastest chip I have a aspireone as a back up with the same, its a bit slow but works okay.
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: and guest is working you saud?
[06:31] <hitsujiTMO> said*
[06:31] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: yep
[06:31] <wilee-nilee> medajke, Anyway I have to godo some work, maybe others can find some ideas for you.
[06:32] <buu> Using ubuntu/alsa, how do I configure which 'sound card'/device it uses for output?
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> buu: system settings -> sound
[06:33] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: all i did was type startx in a terminal window
[06:34] <medajke> ok. thx a lot for everything )) should to buy some better netbook - whats your advise ( which netbook will be best one for ubuntu ) give some link for thats netbook.. thx
[06:34] <buu> hitsujiTMO: Uh, my 'settings' panel doesn't have a sound option
[06:34] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380460/
[06:35] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:37] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: for some reason i have a .dbus folder with root permissions
[06:37] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: related?
[06:38] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380465/
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: could be , i don't think that should have root ownership
[06:40] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: do you have a .dbus folder in your home directory?
[06:40] <hitsujiTMO> kingbeowolf: no i don't
[06:42] <kingbeowolf> brb
[06:43] <ianmac1> Anyone on 13.10 who hasn't done an update this week, there appears to be a kernel update available.
[06:44] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: thats what it was
[06:44] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: apparently when typing sudo startx it creates a .dbus folder with root permissions that messes with the login process
[06:45] <hitsujiTMO> wait ... why sudo startx ... just do startx
[06:45] <kingbeowolf> maybe thats what i did
[06:45] <kingbeowolf> either way its working now
[06:45] <ianmac1> kingbeowolf, you can find any file in your home dir that is owned by root, from terminal: find -user root
[06:45] <kingbeowolf> hitsujiTMO: now only if i can get crossfire working haha
[06:46] <ianmac1> oops, cd ~ && find . -user root
[06:46] <yeyeman> what's the best music player for ubuntu? the default one and vlc suck
[06:46] <ianmac1> !best
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> !best
[06:46] <kingbeowolf> yeyeman: i like gmusicbrowser
[06:47] <kingbeowolf> yeyeman: if you can compile Miro it is a really good all around media player but the one in the repos sucks
[06:49] <yeyeman> what is empathy internet messaging?
[06:49] <yeyeman> I don't remember installing anything like that
[06:50] <yeyeman> how to delete?
[06:50] <ianmac1> yeyeman, it ships with ubuntu
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !info empathy | yeyeman
[06:50] <hitsujiTMO> yeyeman: its there by default
[06:50] <yeyeman> ok how to annihilate it from my system?
[06:50] <yeyeman> how to do that in general on ubuntu??
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> yeyeman: software centre or purge command
[06:51] <cfhowlett> yeyeman, sudo apt-get purge packagename
[06:54] <yeyeman> wow gmusicbrowser is great
[06:54] <yeyeman> it does not even have a volume slider
[06:54] <yeyeman> that's minimalism at it's best
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> yeyeman: there are many great packageson ubuntu if you like music
[06:57] <shroomduke> how do I kill Orca?
[06:58] <Ruler-> Nice update. I lost my clock. Why is that?
[06:58] <wiiguy> send it to the moon shroomduke
[06:58] <kingbeowolf> why can't crossfire be enabled?http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380556/
[06:58] <shroomduke> oh i would love to wiiguy
[06:59] <wiiguy> just go to mexico shroomduke, should be cheap there
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Ruler-: use this channel for ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss new updates
[07:00] <yeyeman> I set gmusicbrowser to have a different layout
[07:00] <Ruler-> Well this is support question: how can i get my clock back after update?
[07:00] <yeyeman> it changed to something really bad and ugly
[07:00] <yeyeman> and removed the button to change layouts
[07:00] <yeyeman> funny!
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> Ruler-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/357266/how-to-show-time-in-ubuntu-13-10
[07:01] <buu> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iTlJ8BfqXUjaHO__TEdlkvuqB1WLOkGaudngc5SFLMI/edit?pli=1#
[07:01] <buu> Magic.
[07:01] <yeyeman> never mind I found it
[07:04] <BillyZane> hi
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> BillyZane: hello, what can we do for you mate?
[07:04] <BillyZane> does upgrading to 13.11 cause any issues with xfce?
[07:05] <BillyZane> i don't understand mir
[07:05] <Perel> I've loaded a custom iptables chain, and started ufw. Is there a way to move my chain to the top of the list, so it will process its DENY rules before any ACCEPT rules can run?
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> BillyZane: you mean 13.10 perhaps?
[07:06] <BillyZane> right
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !mir | BillyZane
[07:06] <SetiAmon> I get ndiswrapper to work with netgear a6200 but after awhile it jsut stops working.anyone know whats up with that
[07:06] <BillyZane> oh. so 13.10 doesn't use it?
[07:06] <Perel> Can I re-order the chains within the INPUT chain?
[07:06] <Cuppa_coffee> BillyZane, correct
[07:06] <BillyZane> upgrading...
[07:07] <shroomduke> shroomduke
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | Perel
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> SetiAmon: what ubuntu version are you on mate?
[07:08] <SetiAmon> 13.10
[07:09] <hitsujiTMO> perel: maybe edit /etc/ufw/before.rules
[07:09] <BillyZane> oh, i need to update the server my repository uses right?
[07:09] <Perel> I've read that document, and the man pages. I know how to append a rule to a chain vs. insert a rule at the top of a chain, but what I'm asking about is the order of the chains within the input chain. Adding with iptables -N NEW_CHAIN
[07:10] <Perel> hitsujiTMO: Yeah, I realize that is probably the way to go. I was hoping there was an easy way to use a different chain, since I already have a script to populate the new custom one.
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> SetiAmon: no drivers found in your additional drivers tab?
[07:11] <hitsujiTMO> Perel: unfortunately ufw is a little "uncomplicated" so managing complex rules seems to be out
[07:12] <Ruler-> lotuspsychje, thank you
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> Ruler-: did you fix it?
[07:13] <LeMike> helloo. i got a server, that crashes every morning during backups and sometimes even turn off. the system.log has no hint what went wrong. any other things I can lookup?
[07:13] <yeyeman> how do I quit GNOME mplayer?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> LeMike: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[07:13] <LeMike> yeyeman: terminal `killall mplayer`
[07:13] <LeMike> oh. extra channel, thanks lotuspsychje
[07:14] <yeyeman> LeMike, no process found
[07:14] <Ruler-> lotuspsychje, yes
[07:14] <Ruler-> running those commands helped
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> LeMike: maybe a tail -f /var/log/syslog.1 might help you troubleshoot in realtime?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !yay | riler
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> woops
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Ruler-
[07:14] <hitsujiTMO> lemike: what are you doing to backup exactly?
[07:15] <yeyeman> programs should not be allowed to hide themselves when the user wants to exit them
[07:15] <babinlonston> i cant ask a Question Here , http://askubuntu.com/questions/ask what may be the issue ?
[07:15] <yeyeman> that's a design flaw in ubuntu
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> !ask | babinlonston
[07:15] <greek> Hi fellas. My update manager won't install the packages in its latest list. It says "Requires installation of untrusted packages
[07:15] <greek> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." but then doesn't give me an option to authorise anything. Any tips? Thanks
[07:16] <LeMike> backup runs hours lotuspsychje. about 200+ websites with data and db on that server hitsujiTMO
[07:16] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: but what are you using to backup? tar ? dd? what?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> !details | LeMike
[07:18] <SetiAmon> back
[07:18] <SetiAmon> sorry no
[07:18] <LeMike> sql is done via automysqlbackup and the files are copied via rsync. (not my fault :P ) for years it's like that and it's stable but every morning i have to turn it on again and see incomplete backups ending at random points.
[07:18] <SetiAmon> lotuspsychje: sorry nope
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | SetiAmon
[07:19] <SetiAmon> i followed the ndiswrapper nad it works...for awhile then it just stops working
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> SetiAmon: any usefull errors in /var/log/syslog.1 ?
[07:21] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: one thing i'd do is start alternating the backups till you fing whats the cause. ie, backup with rsync on the hour and automysqlbackup on the half hour till you know which one of the two is the exact cause? or if its both?  will mean that the backups are slightly out of sync, but kinda needed till you get your issue sorted
[07:22] <ako> hi
[07:23] <SetiAmon> only thing i see is dump inconsistency deteched
[07:23] <LeMike> yee that's one good start hitsujiTMO. if i pipe the output of rsync to a file, does ubuntu write and save every line or keep the resource open til the end of the rsync? that would show at which points it fails and i hope to see something there too
[07:23] <SetiAmon> btw is there ways o increase size of max/min buttons in gnome 3.8 I just installed ubuntu after a year and it looks bad on my hi res
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: is the issue just happening during the night, or does it happen during the daytime too considering its hourly
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> SetiAmon: did same driver work on previous ubuntu?
[07:24] <SetiAmon> no i haven't used it on previous versions.says there is no linux driver support which is why i used ndiswrapper
[07:24] <LeMike> seems like just the night, hitsujiTMO. because i took all cron, made them in daylight and nothing went wrong. but that is not an option because the server go very slow with that
[07:24] <yeyeman> how do I kill gmusicbrowser?
[07:24] <SetiAmon> its a 802.11ac which appears not supported yet by linux
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> !kill | yeyeman
[07:24] <buu> SetiAmon: AC is MADE OF SATAN
[07:25] <SetiAmon> buu i figure they got to support it soon
[07:25] <yeyeman> I know how to open a terminal
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> lemike: it will write as it goes, but keep in mind that writes are cached to memory so if its a hard crash, it might not show the exact point.
[07:25] <SetiAmon> brb i need to restart
[07:25] <buu> SetiAmon: Which laptop/card are you using?
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: if its just at nite,
[07:25] <SetiAmon> netgear a6200 is the one i wanted to get working.now i'm using a lame internal pci
[07:25] <SetiAmon> brb
[07:26] <greek> The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." but then doesn't give me an option to authorise anything. Any tips? Thanks
[07:27] <hitsujiTMO> LeMike: if its just at night, i'd wonder if its at a specific time, when some other cron kicks in, or if its a cleaner coming in and plugging out a ups for the vacuum cleaner. (why a cleaner would have access to a server room i don't know, but i've seen it happen)
[07:27] <LeMike> :D
[07:28] <exic> hello everyone. i was wondering if anyone could possibly help me with some dial up modem issues in 12.04?
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> lemike: hmm, thats all i can think of right now. hopefully it might point you in the right direction
[07:28] <LeMike> another good point hitsujiTMO. i check everything for the next days and hope to get the problem :) thanks very much!
[07:28] <andry> dial up modems still exists? :O
[07:28] <LeMike> yee. feels quite right
[07:28] <exic> haha i know, it's for my mom's first computer ever!
[07:29] <exic> i feel like i'm back in 1994 and i'm so lost :)
[07:29] <ObrienDave> hey, I still have an Anchor Automation 1200 baud modem that works LOL
[07:29] <exic> hey, look at you! awesome obriendave
[07:29] <ObrienDave> LOL
[07:30] <ObrienDave> doesn't mean I actually use it anymore ;)
[07:31] <exic> of course you wouldn't! i am not planning on using it either, but 68-year old mom is finally open to checking email and whatnot. do you happen to know if an older version of ubuntu might work better with modem support? i read that somewhere but i'm not sure.
[07:31] <ObrienDave> not sure on that
[07:31] <exic> i found drivers and have been struggling to get them working for weeks.
[07:32] <exic> that's okay
[07:32] <exic> i have my cell plugged in and working just fine sharing internet, but what do you know? mom doesn't have a cell phone either. sigh.
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> exic: what kinda device is it exactly?
[07:33] <exic> she has a dial-up phone, though!  lotuspsuchje, it's an intel 536ep. also struggled  to find a linmodem.
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> exic: http://www.ehow.com/how_6527854_install-intel-536ep-modem-ubuntu.html
[07:35] <exic> thank you lotuspsychje. i will read that. i have found lots of documentation on installing the modem, but have been getting errors when i get to "make 356" after "clean" and can't seem to figure out why.
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:35] <SetiAmon> so is linux working on 802.11ac
[07:35] <exic> it seems the directories are different in 12.04 than prior versions when the last version of the driver was made. i'm not sure what bbl means, lotuspsychje, sorry.
[07:36] <JordanJ2> exic, Be back later
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> SetiAmon: the protocol isn't an issue, it's finding a device with a working driver that is
[07:36] <exic> ya know, i'm not sure if it's 802.11ac.
[07:36] <exic> okay jordanj2
[07:37] <exic> oh that wasn't for me anyway :) nevermind! not so confused now.
[07:37] <JordanJ2> bbl = Be back later
[07:37] <JordanJ2> =P
[07:37] <exic> oh DUH
[07:37] <hitsujiTMO> exic: those drivers are written for a much older kernel so it would be extremely difficult to get it working on a modern ubuntu install
[07:37] <exic> wow. super 1337 over here, aren't i
[07:38] <mouses> hey is anybody familiar w/ the term or condition of being electrically shocked and not being able to unclutch the object shocking u?
[07:38] <exic> i figured as much, hitsujiTMO. thank you. i am tempted to install an earlier version, i have discs going back to 8.04 with me. but i feel that will be a whole other set of problems.
[07:39] <SetiAmon> netgear a6200 worked fine in win7 so how hard could it be?ndiswrapper works for a bit fine(not ac but wireless N) then at some point it just shuts off.like no net connection and the only thing i can do is yank it out or turn it off etc
[07:39] <exic> yes, i have heard that can be the case mouses. i hope that's not your current situation!
[07:39] <hitsujiTMO> exic: i would even suspect dificulties with 8.04
[07:39] <mouses> exic no it's not my current situation but i'm writing a story about it and i want to research it
[07:39] <mouses> but i dont know the term
[07:40] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | mouses
[07:40] <mouses> sorry
[07:41] <exic> sigh, thanks hitsuitmo. she doesn't have cable/internet, either, and i'm having trouble picking up the neighbor's wifi who offered to share with her. i wish there was another option, but i can't figure out anything besides dial-up! i may be purchasing a wifi hotspot for her, if it seems the dial-up modem is pretty hopeless.
[07:41] <hitsujiTMO> exic: external repeater maybe?
[07:41] <exic> is that a signal booster?
[07:42] <exic> i will look into it regardless
[07:42] <hitsujiTMO> exic: you can get outdoor wifi repeaters that can, repeat your neighbours wifi signal
[07:42] <greek> *bump* My update manager won't install the packages in its latest list. It says "Requires installation of untrusted packages. The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." but then doesn't give me an option to authorise anything. Any tips? Thanks
[07:43] <hitsujiTMO> exic: depends ofc on distance + thickness of walls
[07:43] <exic> i am guessing it needs to be attached to the router though, instead of the receiving computer?  oh, in that case, looks like that could be a good option! thank you hitsuhitmo!
[07:43] <exic> hitsujiTMO: yes, i can understand that. but it sounds like that may be a viable option. thanks!
[07:44] <exic> greek, you may have to tick a setting to install third party software in your settings? but i am not sure, i am far from an expert.
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> greek: whats output of: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:44] <SetiAmon> anyway i can get cutting edge drivers or do i have to wait for official kernel updates
[07:45] <hitsujiTMO> SetiAmon: try the vendors site for a linux driver
[07:46] <greek> hitsujiTMO, I've just installed 12.04 LTS and have installed updates successfully every time I've been asked over the last few days. When I run apt-get update, however, I see there's an error at the end: W: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/Release
[07:48] <andry> greek, run "software-properties-gtk" and select another mirror close to you
[07:48] <hitsujiTMO> greek: try changing your mirror:
[07:50] <greek> andry, hitsujiTMO thanks that did the trick. Cheers
[07:53] <Sandra> Hai, my server just had a peak in load avrage and i found this in my /var/log/messages http://pastie.org/private/joeh7onmawaftllzwkubgq  .. Any clue what went wrong?
[07:55] <helmut_> hi
[08:02] <dannymichel> Anybody know how i would change this so that fonts 12px and under hint full and fonts 13px ald higher hint slight? http://pastie.org/8464780
[08:06] <hitsujiTMO> dannymichel: guessing here but try putting this at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6380793/
[08:07] <hitsujiTMO> dannymichel: before the </fontconfig> ofc
[08:08] <rajmahendra> I have upgraded the ubuntu with new version once i restart i can login to my account but i don't see the dash or even all the applicant is not having any borders  can anyone help me ?
[08:08] <dannymichel> trying that now hitsujiTMO
[08:10] <dannymichel> didnt work, hitsujiTMO . maybe i should log in and out instead of refreshing my font cache on exiting chrome and reopening?
[08:10] <pers3us> Can someone please explain it to me, as to why Cannonical is hell bent on Mir, and not picking up Wayland?
[08:10] <hitsujiTMO> rajmahendra: try resetting unity: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[08:10] <hitsujiTMO> dannymichel: i think a relog would be needed
[08:10] <dannymichel> ok brb
[08:11] <rajmahendra> hitsujiTMO: thank you let me try ...
[08:11] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: theres a lot of factors in play. wayland constantly falling behind, not having the features that they wanted the way they wanted, etc...
[08:12] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: Any docs/threads/mailing-list that I can refer to?
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: nothing wrong with a bit of competition between mir and wayland anyhow.
[08:12] <dannymichel> nah, didnt work hitsujiTMO
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: nothing i know off the top of my head.
[08:13] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: Makes sense to have that competition, but considering that we all are part of this eco-system, shouldn't we all work together and fix this thing call Xorg?
[08:13] <exic> thanks again everyone, have a good evening :)
[08:13] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: Linux community has grown quite big now and collective input from everyone could make things way better.
[08:14] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: I still see my friends complaining - "UI is bad", "this doesn't look good", "that doesn't work well" but they never complain about Shell or kernel or anything beneath Xorg.
[08:15] <pers3us> Anyway, sorry for the rant. I am tired of reading this shit all over.
[08:15] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: Xorg is beyond repair. it's too old. too much of building crap on top of crap. needs a complete rewrite to fix it. thats' what wayland and mir are about. whats wrong with having 2 xservers? we have several DEs, several web servers, several network managers, etc... why are people getting so worked up about having 2 xservers?
[08:16] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: curses is another thing i want rid of. its awful. based on 30 year old code
[08:16] <hitsujiTMO> maybe even older
[08:17] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: Nothing wrong in having 2 xServers, and nothing wrong in getting rid of damn old code-base. my only point is that we as a community can work much better without the bickering that I see all around these days.
[08:17] <pers3us> First gnome vs Unity, then qt vs gtk
[08:17] <pers3us> then wayland vs mir .. argh, just put your brains collectively and create something wonderful.
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> pers3us: ignore the bickering and move on :P all you can do
[08:18] <pers3us> hitsujiTMO: ya. Anyway, sorry for ranting it out here. I was getting frustrated.
[08:18] <pers3us> :)
[08:19] <feta> I have an issue and was wondering if anyone could help before I downgrade to 12.10
[08:19] <feta> I installed 13.10 and cannot get netflix to work at all.
[08:19] <feta> I've tried pipelight and netflix-desktop
[08:20] <feta> but they both crash when netflix loads saying that pluginloader.exe has encountered an error
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> feta: pipelight seems to work for most. have you tried alternative browsers to see if its just an issue with the browser loading the plugin?
[08:21] <feta> hitsujiTMO, I've tried firefox and chromium.
[08:22] <ObrienDave> doesn't netflix-desktop install a custom firefox?
[08:22] <hitsujiTMO> feta was this after an update?
[08:22] <feta> ObrienDave, no.
[08:22] <feta> i meanyes.
[08:22] <feta> It was after a fresh install.
[08:23] <power-inside> Hello everyone, noob question, my archlinux is dead and I wanted to backup some files from it. So I booted up ubuntu livecd and when I go to my user's home directory, I get permissions denied. I know my credentials of the archlinux. How do I login/access the folder?
[08:23] <hitsujiTMO> feta: maybe a possible fix in the bug listed here: https://answers.launchpad.net/netflix-desktop/+question/237615   chech the last few comments
[08:24] <feta> hitsujiTMO, the thing about hw-acceleration?
[08:24] <hitsujiTMO> feta: not sure, just had a quick glance
[08:24] <feta> I tried disabling that and even tried the fix suggested there for if it works.
[08:24] <hitsujiTMO> feta: yes its hw accel
[08:25] <pers3us> power-inside: sudo chmod -777 <path_to_your_folder> ?
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> feta: the fix: http://pastebin.com/yZpMGtrh
[08:25] <ObrienDave> my netflix works after it did a profile update
[08:25] <hitsujiTMO> power-inside: or chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /path/to/mounted/home
[08:25] <feta> hitsujiTMO, didnt work.
[08:26] <hitsujiTMO> feta :(
[08:27] <feta> ObrienDave, do you know how to force a profile update?
[08:27] <power-inside> pers3us: Thanks.. sudo chmod 777 .. did the trick.
[08:29] <ObrienDave> feta, no, it was automatic. what version you running? 0.8.6?
[08:31] <feta> yes i believe so.
[08:32] <XLV> i am using windows to access multiple windows and ubuntu systems with remote desktop.. the viewer is vnc viewer, the windows targets use vnc the ubuntu ones use vino. problem is copy and paste only works with the last remote desktop session opened.. the rest stop getting any updates of the clipboard. i tried it through one of the ubuntu machines, same thing happened, only the last session opened
[08:32] <XLV> had access to clipboard contents ... any remedies?
[08:34] <ObrienDave> feta, can't look into it now, I share my step-son's account ;)
[08:35] <dragonjunkies> hi everybody!
[08:35] <dragonjunkies> ugh, i hate bad connection
[08:35] <rajmahendra> Instead of unity can i move to gnomeshell ?
[08:36] <Atluxity> its a free system
[08:36] <bazhang> !notunity | rajmahendra
[08:38] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04 with kde...somehow I screwed up my desktop... my menu is gone... how can I get it back?
[08:39] <bazhang> apb1963, thats kubuntu then
[08:39] <apb1963> ok
[08:39] <bazhang> which menu exactly apb1963
[08:39] <apb1963> The K menu
[08:39] <apb1963> Everything along the bottom row
[08:40] <hitsujiTMO> rajmahendra: there's also a gnome ubuntu cd image. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/saucy/release/
[08:40] <rajmahendra> oo ok
[08:41] <Hai_Karate> yep
[08:42] <apb1963> I can ALT-Tab between windows... otherwise I just have a totally blank desktop if I minimize the current window
[08:42] <apb1963> Nothing but background
[08:43] <zex> Hi Guys!
[08:43] <apb1963> so actually it's not just the k menu or the bottom row... it's the whole desktop that disappeared
[08:44] <zex> guys I am looking for a simple network monitoring solution that will give me graphs on my connection to all our branches. Are there any recommendation on this solution to run on Ubuntu please?
[08:45] <multivak> do you mean network connections?
[08:45] <multivak> zex: do you mean network connections?
[08:46] <zex> yes that is right, I have 4 brances in africa and ndeed one dashbaord to check the line up and down and also get alerts in the event of it going down
[08:46] <repozitor> can someone tell me what is the benefit of LXC?
[08:46] <repozitor> http://linuxcontainers.org
[08:47] <multivak> zex: iptraf is basic but do the trick
[08:48] <zex> thanks Multivak
[08:48] <zex> will it monitor WAN links also?
[08:49] <repozitor> any hope?
[08:49] <hitsujiTMO> zex: what type of routers do you have?
[08:49] <zex> I have cyberoam Firewalls
[08:52] <hitsujiTMO> zex: Nfsen, Zabbix or mrtg maybe?
[08:52] <zex> I got Zabbix up and and running and does  seems cool.
[08:52] <zex> just don't knwo the product
[08:53] <MO_Handes> how can I know what application has occupied a specific port like 8081 and kill it?
[08:53] <oal> Some time ago, Ubuntu got picky about me pressing ctrl before shift when using ctrl+shift shortcuts. Now it won't let me use ctrl+shift shortcuts no matter what. Ctrl+some other key still works, but not when I need shift as well. Any ideas?
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> zex: i'm more familiar with windows based tools like netflow analyzer
[08:54] <hitsujiTMO> ive used them only as backups
[08:56] <hitsujiTMO> oal, it wont allow you use modifiers on its own anymore. usuall you can just write it to the config file directly to get it working
[08:56] <zex> thanks guys!!!
[08:57] <heyun> has anyone use xubuntu
[08:57] <oal> hitsujiTMO, hmm, not sure if I understand. What config file?
[08:58] <Razkin> Hello guys, I have a problem. Before a few months, everything was working just fine, now something popped up. when I open my computer, and after I enter my logindetails and get past the loginscreen, it takes my icons, desktop wallpaper...etc (aka desktop enviroment) around 20-30 minutes to load, what happened?
[08:58] <hitsujiTMO> MO_Handes: try: sudo netstat -lpn |grep :8081
[08:58] <DJones> heyun: Probably best asking your specific question about xubuntu, if you don't get a response here, you could also ask in #xubuntu which is dedicated channel, although a lot smaller than #ubuntu so may take longer to get a response
[08:58] <Razkin> DJones, can you help please.
[08:59] <Razkin> this problem has been really irritating me.
[08:59] <Razkin> I posted everywhere on UbuntuForums, and even askubuntu.
[08:59] <Razkin> this is my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/Nev25N1m
[09:00] <DJones> Razkin: Sorry, thats not something I've come across, I'm not even sure where to start diagnosing something like that
[09:00] <heyun> DJones: oh,thanks
[09:00] <Razkin> DJones: can you please take a look at http://pastebin.com/Nev25N1m
[09:01] <buu> Razkin: Does it happen if you boot from a livecd/usb?
[09:01] <Razkin> nope, buu.
[09:01] <nibbler> Razkin: while it takes time, you should log in with another computer via ssh (i'd prefer that over ctrl-alt-f1) and issue "vmstat 10", "top" and the like....
[09:02] <buu> Razkin: Uh, reinstall? dunno.
[09:02] <Razkin> buu: I don't want to reinstall.
[09:02] <Razkin> lol.
[09:02] <buu> But its easy!
[09:02] <buu> And fun!
[09:03] <nibbler> Razkin: after identifying the process causing the trouble strace and examination of /proc/$pid might be usefull
[09:03] <DJones> Razkin: I've had a look but there's nothing that I can suggest, wait around a bit and see if somebody else can help
[09:03] <Razkin> what do you mean, nibbler?
[09:03] <hitsujiTMO> Razkin: does it happen on a new user?
[09:03] <Razkin> hitsujiTMO: yes.
[09:03] <starnix> Razkin, what version?
[09:04] <Razkin> starnix: 13.04.
[09:05] <Razkin> also, my computer ran out of battery yesterday, so it forcely shut down.
[09:05] <Razkin> could have of this caused the problem?
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> Razkin: possibly, but its an odd problem to be caused by that
[09:06] <hitsujiTMO> Razkin: did it "shut down" or did it just die?
[09:07] <Razkin> it just died out.
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> Razkin: was it in the middle of doing anything like updates or what not?
[09:07] <Razkin> nope, hitsujiTMO.
[09:08] <Razkin> theres a error in dmesg
[09:08] <Razkin> [   28.929411] Buffer I/O error on device zram0, logical block 464770
[09:09] <Razkin> ill try to reboot
[09:09] <Razkin> and see if this solves
[09:13] <Hejkki> hi, i'm installing nvidia binary drivers 96.xx (legacy), to ubuntu 13.10
[09:14] <metrix> I have an SSD, and need to TRIM freespace that isn't used by a filesystem.  How would I go about doing this?
[09:14] <Hejkki> i have the .run file and it says there are no kernel header files
[09:14] <nibbler> Razkin: while it takes time, you should log in with another computer via ssh (i'd prefer that over ctrl-alt-f1) and issue "vmstat 10", "top" and the like.... this would expose which process or resource is slowing you down (possibly)
[09:15] <nibbler> oh, he left... well...
[09:15] <Hejkki> isn't there a .deb for nvidia 96.xx
[09:15] <Nothing_Much> Hejkki: 96.xx drivers are no longer in production
[09:15] <Nothing_Much> Those have been officially EOL'd by Nvidia
[09:15] <Jordan_U> metrix: sudo fstrim /mountpoint/
[09:15] <Hejkki> i know, but Xorg fails to run and says i need 96.xx drivers
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: that driver is not compatible with the 3.11 kernel
[09:15] <Nothing_Much> Hejkki: You should use Nouveau then
[09:16] <Hejkki> ok
[09:16] <Hejkki> Nouveau fails to work
[09:16] <Nothing_Much> How so?
[09:16] <Hejkki> gives me error in dmesg
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: what graphics card do you have? seems pretty old to want 96
[09:17] <Harmageddon> Hi! I already asked this yesterday, but after the second try, my problem still exists. I'm trying to boot from an Ubuntu 13.10 Live CD (64bit). There is the Ubuntu loading screen, then it suddenly stops with an "divide error: 000 [#1] SMP". The checksum of the .iso file is okay.
[09:17] <metrix> Jordan_u: That would trim freespace from my filesystem. I want to trim space that is not in use by a filesystem
[09:17] <Hejkki> NV18GL  Quadro NVS 280 SD
[09:18] <MO_Handes> from a ntfs formatted external hard drive, I can't remove a directory with a long path blah/blah/blah/../blah getting the error "Directory is not empty" ! what to do?
[09:18] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: empty the directory?
[09:18] <Jordan_U> metrix: You can *very carefully* use hdparm's --trim-sector-ranges option.
[09:18] <MO_Handes> gordonjcp, it is already empty
[09:18] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: or, "rm -rf /path/"
[09:18] <Hejkki> or i don't know if the problem is with nouveau... gdm isn't loading correctly and i get errors in dmesg
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: is that on agp?
[09:19] <Hejkki> i think, i havent opened the box
[09:19] <Hejkki> Xorg starts and i can manually run programs "DISPLAY: 0.0 firefox"
[09:19] <Hejkki> :0.0 even
[09:19] <MO_Handes> gordonjcp, amin@Amin-PC:/media/3E4AB7794AB72C91$ rm -rf Music/
[09:19] <MO_Handes> rm: cannot remove `Music/The Beatles Collection - 24 Full Albums/The Beatles - Abbey Road (1969)': Directory not empty
[09:19] <metrix> Jordan_u: Awesome.  I will look into it
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: that card may be supported on 12.04 with a downgraded xorg
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: but i don't think there's any support on 13.10
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: can you post your dmesg so we can see the nouveau error?
[09:21] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: yes, it is agp, i checked. and i will send the dmesg
[09:21] <Jordan_U> metrix: There may be less room for human error if you create a dummy partition using a partitioning tool like GParted (which won't allow you to create a partition in anything but free space), then discard that entire partition using blkdiscard. Whatever you do, you should make sure that the backups that you keep regularly are up to date.
[09:21] <andry> MO_Handes, how is it mounted? you may try it with sudo
[09:21] <Hejkki> ah but i have the non-working nvidia driver now, how do i enable nouveau the easiest way?
[09:22] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: can you change to that directory, and pastebin the output of "ls -al" ?
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: remove the xorg.conf
[09:23] <MO_Handes> ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[09:23] <MO_Handes> gordonjcp, ^
[09:23] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: that sounds quite bad
[09:23] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: is it possible the drive is a bit faulty?
[09:23] <metrix> Jordan_u: very good point, and I like the gparted Idea
[09:23] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: did that already... seems to use the incorrect nvidia binary driver anyhow
[09:24] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: since it asks me to use 96..43.xx
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: if there's a blacklist on nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/  remove it,
[09:24] <imNEX> Hello all
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: then reboot the machine and hopefully it will try to load it and show up in dmesg
[09:27] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: it is still trying the nvidia binary driver
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: where did you install it from?
[09:29] <gordonjcp> MO_Handes: if you look in dmesg does it have lots of errors that look disk-related?
[09:29] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: apt-get install something,
[09:29] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: can you post the results of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[09:31] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381104/
[09:32] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: this should remove it for you: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current-updates nvidia-304-updates
[09:33] <Hejkki> ok
[09:34] <cheeze> anyone have a good channel for a 1st time linux user
[09:35] <wilee-nilee>  cheeze generally the channel for your OS.
[09:35] <Harmageddon> Does anyone know how to get rid of this "divide error" that breaks the booting of my ubuntu 13.10 installation disk? Everything I find on Google is some other folks having the same problem after updating from 13.04 to 13.10, but no solutions / solutions that require a shell, and as I haven't installed it yet, I don't have any shell.
[09:35] <DJones> cheeze: If you're using Ubuntu, this is a good one, if its a different distribution, they normally have their own channels
[09:36] <cheeze> cool thanks
[09:36] <DJones> cheeze: There is also a general linux channel ##linux
[09:36] <gordonjcp> Harmageddon: can you give us the error *verbatim*?
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: and can you tell us at what point the error occurs
[09:37] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: ok, the gdm starts again, but no login-box... dmesg|tail -n 10 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381129/
[09:37] <cheeze> i guess i am not doing to bad managed to install in a vm and get xchat working
[09:37] <cheeze> so i am off to a good start i suppose
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: can you give the full dmesg
[09:38] <Hejkki> ok
[09:38] <gordonjcp> Harmageddon: handy hint, if it's at a point during boot-up when the computer isn't "working" as such, take a photo of the monitor
[09:38] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: At the startup screen (ubuntu logo + red/white dots below), it suddenly stops with this error and a call stack trace.
[09:38] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381131/
[09:38] <gordonjcp> Harmageddon: sounds like either your install media is faulty, or your PC is faulty
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: a photo of the error would be handy so we can actually see what the problem is
[09:41] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: so i can only see the background image, nothing else when the machine boots up
[09:42] <hitsujiTMO> hejkki: its trying to do something the card is incapable of is my guess. i'd switch down to 12.04, or try xubuntu
[09:45] <Hejkki> hitsujiTMO: ok, i'll try 12.04 LTS
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: there's a 96 driver in lts but it will downgrade xorg. and may need the 3.2 kernel.
[09:46] <Harmageddon> gordonjcp, hitsujiTMO: http://www.zweiiconkram.de/IMAG0122.jpg
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Hejkki: if you can i'd just stick with nouveau
[09:46] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: can you try booting with nomodeset
[09:46] <Harmageddon> gordonjcp: md5sum of the .iso file was ok, the pc is two days old, so I hope it's good ;)
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | Harmageddon
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: what gpu is it exactly?
[09:48] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: Nvidia GeForce GT 750M
[09:48] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: boot with nomodeset should hopefully work
[09:48] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: I'll try
[09:52] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: Jackpot! It works!
[09:52] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: Thank you very much!
[09:53] <Indyroo> ahoy
[09:53] <hitsujiTMO> Harmageddon: unfortunately you might not be out of the woods yet. comeback to us if theres any problems after the install
[09:54] <Harmageddon> hitsujiTMO: I don't hope so, but if I'm encountering any more problems, you'll see me back in here for sure ;)
[09:59]  * akhil hello
[09:59]  * ripthejacker hello
[10:02] <Hejkki> oh great. ubuntu-12.04 minimal cd not working properly
[10:06] <bala> I am running geexbox with xbmc set top box application on panda board, can anyone tell me how to add a web browser application to geexbox
[10:07] <wild_oscar> in unity, how do you drag and drop a file from a nautilus window to another window?
[10:08] <wild_oscar> (eg.: drag and drop to an opened zip folder or to an opened thunderbird/evolution email you're composing)
[10:09] <DJones> bala: You'll probably need to find their own support channel/forum, its not something thats supported here
[10:10] <DJones> bala: Looks like they have an irc channel #geexbox might be worth asking there
[10:10] <bala> I tried there but, not got response...
[10:11] <bala> I thought this is the next place to get help
[10:12] <DJones> Its not based on Ubuntu looking at their website, you could maybe ask in ##linux which is general channel
[10:17] <DrK-NG> I have a file related to nginx and php-fpm; it's name is fastcgi_param; looks like this https://dpaste.de/HLk9 ;;; I waant to know if i could put  fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+?\.php)(/.*)?$; in that file and how could I change this command to format of that file?
[10:17] <DrK-NG> I have a file related to nginx and php-fpm; it's name is fastcgi_param; looks like this https://dpaste.de/HLk9 ;;; I waant to know if i could put  fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+?\.php)(/.*)?$; in that file and how could I change this command to format of that file?
[10:24] <dalkeehon> ever since i updated to 13.10 i get like 4-5 error windows when i log in my sesion, how do i know what the problems are? cause it just says cancel or send...
[10:25] <saschagehlich> same here
[10:25] <saschagehlich> all stacked on top of each other
[10:25] <dalkeehon> thanks in advantage
[10:25] <dalkeehon> hah exactly!
[10:25] <saschagehlich> i have sent them once
[10:25] <dalkeehon> its very annoying really
[10:25] <saschagehlich> now i always cancel them
[10:25] <saschagehlich> that's all i can do :)
[10:26] <EugenA> how do I open the folder with another file manager if I do double click on it (from dekstop)?
[10:26] <dalkeehon> nice to hear iim not the only one
[10:26] <dalkeehon> atleast i have hope it will be fixed
[10:26] <saschagehlich> EugenA, this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager
[10:26] <dalkeehon> ever since you updated to 13.10 right sascha?
[10:28] <NCsaba> I've had a similar issue 2 days ago. I installed Netbeans from the repo and apport went crazy after I tried to launch the application. apport also started to consume a lots of resources right after and I could only solve it by removing apport
[10:28] <andyhuzhill> Hello every one
[10:28] <andyhuzhill> 你好
[10:31] <david38400> I'm new to Ubuntu 12 and not used to the side panels. On Linux Mint it was at the bottom. Can I either move the panel below or make the icons smaller?
[10:31] <jpds> david38400: No.
[10:31] <jnhghy> david38400:Not in unity
[10:31] <david38400> jpds Isn't this a fault then as you cant always see your document compllete
[10:32] <geirha> david38400: Note there's no Ubuntu 12, there's Ubuntu 12.04 and Ubuntu 12.10  (which were released april 2012 and october 2012 respectively)
[10:32] <david38400> geirha I did mean 12.04
[10:33] <jpds> david38400: Zoom out of your document a bit?
[10:33] <jpds> david38400: Or full screen it?
[10:34] <PavanGupta01> folks how to set tabsize for vim ?
[10:34] <david38400> jpds, how do you mean full screen it?
[10:34] <researcher> my lapotop used to play audi a week before now sudenly stopped.Tests show sound INPUT fully functional.Anyone can help please?
[10:34] <ianmac1> david38400, you can make the icons on the left panel smaller.
[10:35] <david38400> ianmac1: Thats what I would like to do. Do you know how to do it as I don't? Thks
[10:35] <jpds> david38400: Make whatever is viewing your document full-screen?
[10:35] <ianmac1> david38400, open System Settings > Appearance. Then go to the bottom of that window and move the slider to what you want
[10:36] <david38400> jpds: I did that and it doesn't make any difference
[10:37] <david38400> ianmac1: Fantastic, that worked.  Thanks very much for your help. Another thing I've learnt about Ubuntu 12.04 today!!
[10:37] <ianmac1> david38400, you're welcome :)
[10:37] <david38400> ianmac1: May I ask another question. I can't play any videos as it says things are missing.
[10:38] <ianmac1> !video | david38400
[10:38] <ianmac1> some great info there
[10:38] <david38400> ianmac1: I will have a look, but it seems it something to do with gstreamer
[10:39] <andry> anyone else with intel hd4xxx and laggy desktop when using tearfree option for the driver in x?
[10:39] <ianmac1> david38400, yes, you should find gstreamer info there too
[10:39] <Doble> can anyone point me in the right direction regarding filesystems? I'm building a home NAS/media center, and I'm trying to decide if I want to use LVM or ZFS or something similar. I have 4x 2tb drives which will be storing data. I dont need redundancy. I just want all the drives to display as one large 'folder'. However I am worried that LVM will destroy all the data if one of the four drives fail. Anyone have any ideas?
[10:39] <tomboy65> is it normal that i have a running apache (with no content) on my ubuntu (prescise)?
[10:40] <tomboy65> *precise, that is
[10:40] <ianmac1> david38400, check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#Playing_Restricted_Formats
[10:40] <david38400> ianmac1: Will do many thanks.
[10:41] <ianmac1> tomboy65, sounds like you installed the server release rather than the desktop release. If this is the case, then yes.
[10:42] <tomboy65> ianmac1: how do i determine that? (it was installed for me)
[10:42] <david38400> ianmac1: It is asking me if I am using regular Ubuntu???
[10:42] <ianmac1> tomboy65, I'm not sure how to do that
[10:43] <ianmac1> david38400, are you using regular ubuntu?
[10:43] <tomboy65> ok :) thx
[10:45] <david38400> ianmac1: As far as I know the technician installed 12.04 thats all I know. How can I check?
[10:45] <researcher> how to play audi on laptop if its suddenly gone whilethe hardware is ok?
[10:45] <liu> 恩
[10:45] <ianmac1> david38400, open a terminal and run this commend: lsb_release -d
[10:47] <david38400> ianmac1: It says no command found, but listed other things like Command 'lsw' from package 'suckless-tools' (universe)
[10:47] <ianmac1> david38400, open a terminal and run this commend: lsb_release -a | grep Description
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> Doble: if you don't want redundancy, but also don't to lose everything on the death of 1 drive, then stick with flat raw mounting. any form of spanning will give a chance if loosing everything on a single drive fail
[10:49] <david38400> ianmac1: This is what it says : No LSB modules are available.
[10:49] <david38400> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[10:50] <ianmac1> david38400, ok, you're using Ubuntu 12.04. The LTS means Long Term Release.. supported for 3 years, IIRC
[10:50] <andry> smooth tearfree intel xorg now works with 512mb fixed vram (if anyone wants to know ;PP)
[10:51] <ianmac1> david38400, So, yes, you're using regular Ubuntu
[10:51] <david38400> ianmac1: Thks will try the download now then. Be back soon!
[10:51] <ianmac1> kk :)
[10:52] <ianmac1> david38400, Remember your release number (12.04), you'll get asked that sometimes
[10:52] <faugusztin> Doble: mhddfs is your friend
[10:52] <faugusztin> Doble: https://romanrm.net/mhddfs
[10:53] <david38400> ianmac1: Thks. Shutting down now to install updates. Will be back in a few minutes to let you know if it all worked or not.
[10:54] <Miloud> hi
[10:54] <jnhghy> hi
[10:54] <dali> I'm using gentoo, and I can only have one application playing sounds, is dmix broken? I've tried several .asoundrc files, did not help. It have worked before, can the problem be that pulseaudio doesn't start anymore?
[10:54] <feta> so I installed 12.10 and I got netflix working using pipelight.
[10:54] <CatKiller> Hi there, not sure if anybody will know. Is there any way during CD/USB/Net installation of Ubuntu to specify an apt cache proxy to get the packages? Is setting up the HTTP proxy works, provided apt-cacher-ng or squid is used?
[10:54] <CatKiller> s/is/does
[10:55] <DJones> dali: Better asking that in #gentoo
[10:55] <dali> DJones, I know, it's more activity here, someone probably knows something about it
[10:55] <david38400> ianmac1: Great news.... it works fine now. Very many thanks for your help
[10:56] <ianmac1> david38400, I'm glad it's working. You're welcome. Now you can enjoy your media :)
[10:56] <DJones> dali: I'm afraid this channel only supports official versions of Ubuntu, I'm sure somebody will get you in #gentoo fairly soon
[10:57] <dali> DJones, I've asked there, while I was waiting I posted here also :)
[10:58] <david38400> ianmac1: I certainly can....the XRC Chat is wonderful. Being able to get so much help from the experts. I used Linux Mint before but changed to Ubuntu 12.04 and am very pleased. I have to learn my way around so the chat is a great help.
[10:58] <SteveBell> hi all. I have a OS X journaled formatted harddrive which I would need to read from in ubuntu. when connecting that two partition drive, only 1 partition shows up. any ideas how to get the 2nd partition to show up as well?
[10:58] <ianmac1> david38400, Have you joined the ubuntu forums yet? That's another great resource.
[11:00] <Doble> fauguztin and hitsujiTMO - thanks guys
[11:03] <Doble> faugusztin: mhddfs is exactly what I was looking for! perfect! thanks!
[11:04] <david38400> ianmac1: Not yet!!!! Must do it soon.  Do you have URL link please?
[11:04] <ianmac1> david38400, http://ubuntuforums.org/
[11:05] <linu1> hi all i have try to spp from arm9x5ek to ubuntu pc using /dev/rfcomm0 but when i echo "" > /dev/rfcomm0 from target to ubuntu it prompt me a window for passwd i given 0000 but it not recognized how can i solve this issues
[11:13] <zexcriz> any  good games for free on steam ?
[11:13] <OerHeks> zexcriz, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-steam
[11:14] <zexcriz> OerHeks, :)
[11:18] <rabbitear_sdf> its 'HAAAAAAAAAD' to install Slackware
[11:33] <ripthejacker> how can edit /etc/hosts file on my router netgear wgr614
[11:33] <ikonia> ripthejacker: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[11:33] <mkozjak> where's add-apt-repository in saucy?
[11:33] <TauNeutrino> hey penguins
[11:33] <TauNeutrino> :)
[11:34] <ripthejacker> ikonia: Well I can do it on all my ubuntu PCs on lan, but I want to make it automatic, not having to manually edit all pcs
[11:34] <ripthejacker> ikonia: I want a centralized location for it
[11:34] <ikonia> ripthejacker: again, "how to edit files on your netgear router" - that's not really anything to do with ubuntu
[11:34] <ripthejacker> ikonia: so which channel?
[11:34] <ikonia> ripthejacker: no idea.
[11:35] <ripthejacker> ok
[11:35] <ripthejacker> :(
[11:36] <eva_> Hi there, can someone help me?  My mother just updated her laptop to 13.10 but the keyboard stopped functioning.. its not hardware since its functioning fine in BIOS. What can i do?
[11:36] <DJones> !alis | ripthejacker The "alis" bot may be able to help you find a netgear channel, but no guarantee's, there may not be an irc channel for them
[11:38] <SteveBell> hi all. I have a OS X journaled formatted harddrive which I would need to read from in ubuntu. when connecting that two partition drive, only 1 partition shows up. any ideas how to get the 2nd partition to show up as well?
[11:38] <ripthejacker> DJones: thank you , but there is no channel for netgear
[11:38] <faugusztin> ripthejacker: you are unlikely to find manual DNS editing options in consumer grade routers, your best bet is to set up your own DNS server
[11:38] <Cristian77> hi guys, can i ask for an help onto ubuntu 13.10?
[11:38] <ripthejacker> faugusztin: ok
[11:39] <DJones> Cristian77: Sure, just ask your question in the channel
[11:40] <eva_> Hi there, can someone help me?  My mother just updated her laptop to 13.10 but the keyboard stopped functioning.. its not hardware since its functioning fine in BIOS. What can i do?
[11:40] <Cristian77> hi guys: i upgraded to 13.10, and now there is no shrewsoft available
[11:41] <faugusztin> ripthejacker: depending on version of your WGR614 router you could install DD-WRT on it and then try to use dnsmasq... or just set up your own DNS server on a computer which runs 24/7
[11:41] <Cristian77> i need to use a vpn with tpc tunnel, and i cannot find any alternative onto 13.10
[11:41] <faugusztin> Cristian77: did you tried compiling manually ?
[11:43] <Cristian77> i can tried but i can do it again... i remeber that some lib was missing
[11:43] <Cristian77> for another forum i saw that shrew is considered too old....
[11:43] <faugusztin> Cristian77: give me a minute, i will try it now
[11:43] <Cristian77> thanks, i need to go away for half an hour....
[11:44] <ultraartlu> is genii here?))
[11:44] <DJones> Cristian77: As far as I can see, thats not been available since 12.10 because nobody was maintaining the package
[11:46] <faugusztin> Cristian77: apt-get install libedit-dev
[11:47] <faugusztin> Cristian77: if you require GUI, then apt-get install libqt4-dev
[11:48] <faugusztin> Cristian77: then you can use  cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DQTGUI=YES -DETCDIR=/etc -DNATT=YES
[11:48] <faugusztin> Cristian77: then the usual make, make install stuff
[11:48] <Danato> Hey, how come I can only create icons on my "visual" desktop, and I cant see the things I have the desktop folder?
[11:49] <Danato> do i have to change any settings for that?
[11:50] <Danato> anyone?
[11:52] <weissbier> hi guys
[11:52] <Danato> hello
[11:53] <Danato> weissbier: can i address my question to you? its related to the kde desktop
[11:53] <weissbier> i've set up ubuntu 13.10 with encrypted lvm, ubuntu doesn't detects my usb-keyboard (IBM Preferred Pro) and i can't input my passphrase
[11:53] <berryciderspider> How do I count the number of files of a specific type in a directory?
[11:53] <weissbier> any advice?
[11:55] <weissbier> i already tried to add the usbhid module into the initramfs, but it didn't helped
[11:56] <glitsj16> mkozjak: that's part of the software-properties-common package (you can get clues about missing commands if you install command-not-found package, might come in handy for situations like this)
[11:56] <Danato> theres nobody answering for now
[11:56] <Danato> ah there!
[11:56] <bgardner> berryciderspider: Try: ls *.gz -l | wc -l
[11:56] <bgardner> berryciderspider: Change *.gz to what you want to count.
[11:57] <berryciderspider> thanks
[11:58] <Danato> now can anybody tell me how do i make my kde desktop (that looks on the background) sync with the desktop folder?
[12:01] <Rory> Danato: Right-click on the desktop, Default Desktop Settings, then change it to Folder View
[12:01] <Rory> Danato: As in, change Layout to Folder
[12:02] <Danato> Rory: Ah that worked, thanks a lot
[12:02] <SteveBell> so I installed sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[12:03] <SteveBell> then sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb3 /media/mntpoint
[12:03] <SteveBell> but no success so far to get both partitions of the os x journaled drive to show up in ubuntu 13.10
[12:03] <bekks> SteveBell: Do you get any errors?
[12:05] <SteveBell> partition 2 is what I'd like to read from in ubuntu: http://cl.ly/image/1t2E2F360w39
[12:05] <SteveBell> tried sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw /dev/sdb2 /media/mntpoint
[12:06] <SteveBell> (correct sdb number), but get terminal msg: mount: mountpoint media/mntpoint does not exist
[12:06] <bekks> SteveBell: Well, then create the mountpoint...
[12:06] <DJones> SteveBell: Have you created /media/mntpoint
[12:07] <SteveBell> should I do a search how to do that or is that a single command? no, excuse my ignorance. still learning...
[12:07] <bekks> SteveBell: "sudo mkdir /media/mntpoint"
[12:07] <SteveBell> ok done
[12:07] <geirha> SteveBell: Odd that the error message omited the leading /
[12:08] <SteveBell> geirha: sry forgot that. switching forth and back between ubuntu terminal and OSX  IRC client
[12:09] <SteveBell> so I pasted your cmd bekks then retried with the mount cmd and got: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,
[12:09] <SteveBell>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[12:09] <SteveBell>        Manchmal liefert das Syslog wertvolle Informationen – versuchen
[12:09] <SteveBell>        Sie  dmesg | tail  oder so
[12:09] <FloodBot1> SteveBell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:11] <moazhmi> need dev support ? , who can spare a minute?
[12:11] <bekks> moazhmi: The usual way would be to ^just ask a specific question.
[12:14] <SteveBell> bekks: interesting thing is that /dev/sdb4 shows as Apple HFS/HFS+ and /dev/sdb2 as Apple Maindatastorage (bad translation from ger)
[12:14] <tjj_> Is there any way to suspend ubuntu to disk without kernel PM support? I want to pause a remote server instance and then resume it later
[12:14] <bekks> SteveBell: Pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" please.
[12:14] <bekks> !paste | SteveBell
[12:15] <bekks> tjj_: No.
[12:15] <SteveBell> http://pastebin.com/QCZ5mBiY
[12:15] <geirha> SteveBell: export LANGUAGE=en LANG=en_US.UTF-8   should avoid the commands being translated to german in that terminal
[12:16] <SteveBell> geirha: ok. set.
[12:19] <SteveBell> bekks:  see link above
[12:20] <bekks> SteveBell: according to your paste, sdb2 does not exist.
[12:20] <SteveBell> interesting. it shows in the drive manager as device /dev/sdb2
[12:21] <bekks> SteveBell: in which device manager - osx?
[12:22] <SteveBell> bekks: no ubuntu: http://cl.ly/image/3m2A3b1i0h11
[12:23] <bekks> SteveBell: pastebin sudo fdisk -l please
[12:24] <SteveBell> bekks: http://pastebin.com/E8PrVdTE
[12:25] <DJones> SteveBell: bekks: I wonder if its because the partition is shown as "unbekannt" in the immage which seems to translate as "Not recongnised" while sdb4 is marked as HFS+ in the image
[12:25] <SteveBell> unbekannt would be unknown, y
[12:25] <SteveBell> yes that was what I was trying to hint at earlier.
[12:25] <bekks> DJones: yeah, that indicates that it isnt a hfsplus filesystem.
[12:26] <SteveBell> hm but it is. formated with os x as OS X journaled. then used via Carbon copy cloner to make the backup
[12:26] <SteveBell> ccc does something where it creates some mount drive (guess that's sdb3 - the recovery partition)
[12:26] <SteveBell> but not sure why or how that means sdb2 no longer is hfs or hfs+
[12:29] <DJones> I've never come across a HFS+ file system, so I'm not going to be any further help
[12:31] <spq> hi, how can i do SNAT for ipv6 (i know: ipv6 and nat is bad, but i need it in this setup)?
[12:31] <spq> (with ubuntu 13.4)
[12:33] <DJones> SteveBell: Just something I've found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus You said you were trying to mount it as read/write and that the drive is journalled, that web page suggests that  If you need read/write access then you have to disable journaling with OS X  Don't know if thats part of the issue
[12:33] <ztane> root      1412  3.6 22.9 3333068 928224 ?      Sl   13:44   1:48 /usr/lib/packagekit/packagekitd
[12:34] <SteveBell> DJones: don
[12:34] <ztane> anyone here know anything about packagekitd :?
[12:34] <ztane> I just need to killall it every hour
[12:34] <SteveBell> sry, don't need to write. read would be great already
[12:34] <ztane> it eats all my ram
[12:34] <ztane> kubuntu 1310
[12:36] <SteveBell> DJones: so that article saying read is working by default is a little odd.
[12:36] <geirha> SteveBell: then try with ro instead of rw
[12:38] <DJones> SteveBell: Also picked up on this, maybe because its a cloned partition it needs checking/repairing under OSX http://askubuntu.com/questions/268183/mount-hfs-partion
[12:38] <SteveBell> sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,ro /dev/sdb2 /media/mntpoint
[12:38] <SteveBell> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,
[12:38] <SteveBell>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[12:38] <SteveBell>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:38] <SteveBell>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:39] <FloodBot1> SteveBell: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <HeathHayle> Does anyone in here know about samba for ios?
[12:39] <ztane> SteveBell: sudo file -s /dev/sdb2
[12:39] <faugusztin> SteveBell: maybe you are having the same problem as http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=7019 see the last post
[12:39] <SteveBell> DJones: ok thanks for your hints. will try that
[12:40] <faugusztin> SteveBell: maybe you need to mount the next partition instead ?
[12:40] <YokoBR> hi guys
[12:40] <SteveBell> faugusztin: hm the recovery partition? to bring me the backup partition?
[12:40] <doble> Hey guys, I'm trying to partition a disk and when i try to add a partition it tells me I can only add a very small partition - like 2-3k blocks. The disk is 1.5tb. How can I fix this ?
[12:40] <YokoBR> is there any way to list all shared folders on my samba network?
[12:41] <faugusztin> SteveBell: or the 4th partition... worth a try :)
[12:41] <geirha> doble: could be many things. a screenshot of how it looks in gparted might help
[12:42] <Razin> Hello.
[12:42] <SteveBell> ah damn it. sorry for being super stupid and wasting your time. this backup is FIleVault encrypted. so I'm out of luck
[12:43] <SteveBell> so that would mean to archive what I'm trying to do I would need read write access now the other way around. ext3 under OS X
[12:43] <SteveBell> oh boy. I wish I was more competent…
[12:43] <DJones> SteveBell: Heh, at least you realised
[12:43] <Razin> My laptop battery is literally broken, so I use the charger to keep it on, without charger, it turns off since the battery is dead, it doesn't charge, so now, when my electricity goes out, my laptop dies out, like it shuts down by force, is it harmful for my distro?
[12:43] <faugusztin> SteveBell: or maybe you could try just copying through ethernet ?
[12:43] <SteveBell> DJones: hehe, yes. really sorry. at least we know FileVault not easily compromised by mounting under ubuntu :)
[12:44] <bekks> Razin: It may harm your filesystems.
[12:44] <SteveBell> faugusztin:  what would that setup look like?
[12:44] <Razin> bekks: I know, but how can I reverse it?
[12:44] <DJones> SteveBell: If its not a large volume of data you need to sync, you could use seomthing like dropbox
[12:44] <doble> geirha: here's a screenshot: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/908196/image.jpeg
[12:44] <Razin> bekks: do I have to run fsck -l after everytime it dies out by force?
[12:44] <faugusztin> SteveBell: two computers, two hard drives, os x copying files via smb or scp :)
[12:44] <bekks> Razin: By using fsck -f after a power outage.
[12:44] <Razin> what will that do?
[12:45] <SteveBell> DJones: won't work. this is 500gb backup. going from backup 1 (weekly) to backup 2 (every 6 months)
[12:45] <faugusztin> doble: by any chance you are trying to create partition inside a small extended partition ?
[12:45] <geirha> doble: resize the extended partition to cover all the space not taken by /dev/sde1
[12:45] <Lars_G> when I have non upstart init scripts in 12.04, what is the right way to move them to/from init levels? rm/ln by hand, or is there an approved tool?
[12:45] <Razin> bekks: after a power outage, fsck -f will fix it?
[12:45] <bekks> Razin: It will forcibly check a filesystem - which must not be mounted.
[12:45] <faugusztin> SteveBell: and by the way, not tested, but http://blog.applegrew.com/2011/12/access-ext3ext2-file-system-on-mac-osx-lion-10-7/
[12:46] <geirha> doble: Though you cannot do that in gparted while /dev/sde1 is mounted
[12:46] <Cristian77> hi guys, still trying to compile shrew onto ubuntu 13.10
[12:46] <Razin> bekks: will that fix it too?
[12:46] <faugusztin> SteveBell: ah, domain doesn't exists anymore, and it was read only, sorry :(
[12:46] <Cristian77> i got this from cmake:
[12:46] <Razin> bekks: I mean, will it just check, or fix it too?
[12:46] <geirha> doble: You can do it with fdisk, by removing the extended partition (which is empty anyway) and creating a new extended partition that encompasses all the available space
[12:47] <bekks> Razin: It will fix all fixable errors after asking you.
[12:47] <SteveBell> yes, extfs is an easy solution but they want 40$ for just ext acces. guess they have a monopoly on that :)
[12:47] <faugusztin> Cristian77: i gave you the commands, did it fail for you ? it compiled fine for me
[12:47] <geirha> doble: then you can create logical partitions inside there at whichever sizes your want
[12:47] <adac> I have my notebook on a dikcing station and my big monitor hence two displays. Is there a shortcut in ubuntu to switch monitor?
[12:47] <Cristian77> root@cristian-ThinkPad-T400:/usr/share/Shrew/ike# cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DQTGUI=YES -DETCDIR=/etc -DNATT=YES -- Using install prefix /usr ... -- Using etc install path /etc ... -- Using bin install path /usr/bin ... -- Using sbin install path /usr/sbin ... -- Using lib install path /usr/lib ... -- Using man install path /usr/local/man ... CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:265 (message):   Unable to locate openssl crypto in
[12:47] <doble> faugusztin: geirha: I'm not sure what the sde2 partition is, I think it's the swap partition. I want to have 3 partitions on this disk - root of 50gb, an LVM of 1400gb and a swap of 8gb
[12:47] <adac> *docking
[12:47] <Cristian77> unable to local openssl crypto ... but openssl is installed
[12:47] <faugusztin> Cristian77: apt-get install libssl-dev
[12:47] <geirha> doble: It might have had a swap partition inside the extended at some point, but it's not there now
[12:47] <Razin> bekks: are you aware of zram0?
[12:48] <bekks> Razin: No.
[12:48] <faugusztin> doble, click on unallocated 1.31TiB, then try to create a partition
[12:48] <SteveBell> faugusztin: hmm, wondering if I could just split the 3TB drive into two partitions one ext3 for ubuntu and 1 1TB partition hfs to clone my encrypted backup to have a second copy of that. is that possible at all?
[12:48] <geirha> doble: with the typical msdos partition table, your disk is limited to having 4 partitions. However, if you make one of those partitions into the special extended partition, you can have as many logical partitions inside that extended partition as you like
[12:48] <Cristian77> thanks faugusztin. It worked...
[12:49] <bekks> geirha: Up to 16 per extended partition.
[12:49] <geirha> doble: So make an extended partition that takes all the space after /dev/sde1, then create your other partitions inside there.
[12:49] <faugusztin> SteveBell: why not just get rid of encrypted storage and use something both systems can read ? it's up to you
[12:50] <Cristian77> looks the have installed shrew..
[12:50] <geirha> bekks: Hm. Really? I thought it was more like 256, though I've never been anywhere near 16 partitions on a disk, so never needed to know really
[12:50] <Cristian77> but ha cannot find the icon onto the applications... how can i install the gui?
[12:51] <doble> faugusztin: creating the partition through gparted seemed to work, it wouldn't let me do it with fdisk - it looks OK now
[12:54] <SteveBell> faugusztin: sure, but not really willing of having unencrypted backups of all my personal data laying around… so that's not really any option
[12:55] <bingo> hello. Should I install the firewall?
[12:55] <yassin> what's up guys and girls?
[12:55] <yassin> yes
[12:55] <yassin> any other questions?
[12:55] <doble> thanks geirha and faugusztin
[13:00] <adac>  I have my notebook on a docking station and my big monitor hence two displays. Is there a shortcut in ubuntu to switch monitor?
[13:03] <theadmin> adac: Not on in Ubuntu. Your laptop may have one though.
[13:03] <Silex> hello, how do I tell dpkg-buildpackage to build the .deb for precise when you are on a lucid box?
[13:03] <SteveBell> DJones: bekks thanks for your patience. have to think for a solution. guess the extfs route might be an option. have a nice day all
[13:04] <Silex> is it with DEB_BUILD_ARCH_OS?
[13:04] <adac> theadmin, :( ok thanks!
[13:04] <Barrytheboy> hi guys I was looking for some help I'm a complete novice and I'm trying to access my second hard drive but I'm getting an error when trying to open it?
[13:04] <theadmin> adac: Or you can make one :)
[13:04] <theadmin> adac: I have no idea how to do the monitor switching voodoo via the command line, but if you do, you can assign a shortcut to it via System Settings -> Keyboard.
[13:05] <Barrytheboy> it says error mounting /dev/sdc2 at /media/barath/Spare:
[13:05] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: hi :)
[13:05] <adac> theadmin, yeah I guess that is a problem that voodoo stuff otherwise there would be a shortcut ;)
[13:05] <bekks> Barrytheboy: You just ommitted the important part of the error message :)
[13:06] <jhutchins_wk> adac: xrandr may be able to do what you want, if not it's up to the desktop environment.
[13:06] <Barrytheboy> do you know how I can get access to it
[13:06] <bekks> Barrytheboy: Tell us the error message,the part after the ":"
[13:07] <Barrytheboy> it has video files on it I want to access Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sdc2" "/media/barath/Spare"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[13:07] <Barrytheboy> BEKKS is that what you meant
[13:08] <theadmin> Barrytheboy: Eh. Bad NTFS. If you use Windows, you need to reboot into it and run a chkdsk on the disk.
[13:08] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: fsck.ntfs exists.
[13:08] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: I thought that doesn't really do anything, just marks the drive as "clean".
[13:08] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: Has that changed?
[13:08] <bekks> Barrytheboy: "the disk contains an unclean filesystem". Boot Windows, run chkdsk, return to Ubuntu, and mount it.
[13:08] <bekks> theadmin: No.
[13:09] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: Don't know that it's changed, I have seen a functional ntfs fsck in linux.
[13:09] <Barrytheboy> thanks bekk is their a link that I can follow steps on how to run chkdsk in windows
[13:10] <bekks> Barrytheboy: Boot windows, open a cmd.exe window, type chkdsk /?
[13:10] <s_faraday> hitsujiTMO: are u there?
[13:10] <theadmin> Barrytheboy: 1) hit Win+R, 2) type chkdsk /f Z: (where Z: is the drive letter), 3) reboot
[13:10] <theadmin> Barrytheboy: Where "win" is the Super/Windows logo key on your keyboard.
[13:11] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: Ah, hm,
[13:11] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: Must be misinformed, then.
[13:12] <Barrytheboy> thanks guy i'll try it now
[13:13] <s_faraday> hi guys
[13:13] <jonneburger> If I open .run file in terminal and use it to install app, should the app show on normal GNOME desktop?
[13:13] <theadmin> jonneburger: That depends on the app. There's no standard behaviour for installers like that. Recommend to search the Software Centre instead.
[13:13] <Silex> thenono
[13:14] <theadmin> jonneburger: Or find a .deb package.
[13:14] <Silex> no
[13:14] <s_faraday> trying to compile and install a package "simspark" gives me this error
[13:14] <Silex> ooops, sorry
[13:14] <Silex> anyway, no one knows how to cross-build a .deb package across releases? from lucid to precise
[13:14] <s_faraday> after "cmake ../" command
[13:15] <s_faraday> I see this:
[13:15] <s_faraday> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381939/
[13:15] <s_faraday> how can I fix it guys?
[13:15] <theadmin> s_faraday: Doesn't seem like an error to me, more of a warning. Should be of fine.
[13:15] <jonneburger> theadmin: teamspeak. and it doesnt seem to be .deb. only .run on linux
[13:16] <theadmin> jonneburger: TeamSpeak is in the repositories.
[13:16] <theadmin> jonneburger: Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/teamspeak-client
[13:16] <s_faraday> theadmin: is there any missing dependency?
[13:16] <theadmin> s_faraday: I have no idea what "fmod" is to be honest.
[13:17] <s_faraday> theadmin: me too!
[13:17] <faugusztin> Silex: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto ?
[13:17] <s_faraday> it's a robocup simulator
[13:17] <jonneburger> theadmin: "link needs to be opened in app" and it doesnt give any. what app do i need to find manually if any?
[13:18] <theadmin> jonneburger: Run the Software Centre then. If you are on an Ubuntu derivative that doesn't have it, open a Terminal and run "sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client".
[13:18] <Silex> faugusztin: thanks!
[13:19] <jonneburger> theadmin: okay i got it now. thanks for helping
[13:21] <theadmin> jonneburger: If anything: always search the software centre first.
[13:21] <ahalverson> is there any tools for making a custom ubuntu spin-off?
[13:21] <theadmin> ahalverson: Sure are. Try the Ubuntu Customization Kit (repo package: uck)
[13:23] <ahalverson> theadmin: thanks, ill try that
[13:24] <nrdb> I have a problem... I a libvirt system ... with two networks setup ... one of these is isolated, but it won't start on reboot (or any other way I know)... can anyone help?
[13:24] <ahalverson> one more question, if i make a distro based on precise, will it be able to use the repositories until 2017 like the vanilla precise?
[13:26] <theadmin> ahalverson: Sure.
[13:26] <ljunggren> HI
[13:27] <ahalverson> theadmin: great!
[13:27] <ljunggren> im trying to boot ubuntu from a CD on my other laptop and i just get (initramfs) Unable to find a medium conatining a live filesystem
[13:29] <s_faraday> hi
[13:29] <s_faraday> I wanna add the line '/usr/local/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf
[13:30] <s_faraday> that already has just this line: include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[13:30] <theadmin> s_faraday: /usr/local/lib is included by default, you don't need to mess around.
[13:30] <s_faraday> should I add new library at the same row?
[13:30] <geirha> s_faraday: cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf   it's probably already there
[13:31] <rabbitear_sdf> install slackware
[13:31] <s_faraday> geirha: theadmin it has just this:         include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[13:31] <s_faraday> I cat that file
[13:31] <dcope> hi all
[13:32] <theadmin> s_faraday: Yeah I know, it means read all files in the directory /etc/ld.so.conf.d/
[13:32] <geirha> s_faraday: yes, which means it uses the content of those files
[13:32] <s_faraday> so there is'nt need any change?
[13:32] <dcope> the monit package in the 12.04 repo has a really terrible bug. how should i go about this? is there a way to contact the package mantainer and let them know or is it possible for me to contribute to the package?
[13:32] <theadmin> s_faraday: Nope.
[13:32] <theadmin> dcope: Sure. Run "ubuntu-bug monit".
[13:33] <geirha> s_faraday: If you've put a library in /usr/local/lib, but it's not using it, you probably just haven't updated the cache yet. You do that by running   sudo ldconfig
[13:33] <dcope> theadmin: what does that do? give author information about the monit package?
[13:33] <s_faraday> ok thanks boddy theadmin geirha ;)
[13:33] <theadmin> dcope: That creates information about your system etcetera and guides you through the process of submitting a bug report. You'll be able to add more info later.
[13:34] <dcope> theadmin: awesome, thank you
[13:34] <dcope> in the meantime i've manually installed the latest monit on my machine and it works fine. i just want to make sure the `monit` package in the repo gets updated so others dont run into the same issue
[13:34] <dcope> thank you again, the adamWork
[13:34] <dcope> theadmin*
[13:35] <nrdb> I have a problem... a libvirt system ... with two networks setup ... one of these is isolated, but it won't start on reboot (or any other way I know)... can anyone help?
[13:39] <lovelyrandomness> hey folks, got ubuntu installed on my new vaio pro, but it doesn't boot: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372970/13-10-fde-doesnt-boot-on-vaio-pro-13
[13:39] <lovelyrandomness> can anybody point me in the right direction?
[13:44] <theadmin> In "man xorg.conf": "Nobody wants to say how this works.  Maybe nobody knows ..."... Is that... supposed to be there?
[13:45] <mkozjak> can skype be installed on 64-bit Saucy Salamander?
[13:45] <b0x> yes im running skype
[13:45] <b0x> on 13.10
[13:45] <mkozjak> b0x: how?
[13:45] <theadmin> mkozjak: Don't see why not, Ubuntu is multi-arch since 12.04.
[13:45] <b0x> was installed when i upgraded anyway
[13:45] <theadmin> mkozjak: Skype is in the partner repository.
[13:46] <mkozjak> theadmin: which repo is that?
[13:47] <theadmin> mkozjak: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
[13:47] <mkozjak> thanks!
[13:47] <theadmin> "saucy partner". Sounds very... fun.
[13:48] <jnhghy> theadmin: I've just did a man xorg.conf I can't belive what I'm seeing under VIDEOADAPTOR SECTION. nice catch (I guess)
[13:49] <theadmin> mkozjak: You can also install the 12.04 version from skype.com but make sure to manually install sni-qt:i386 or else the tray icon will be missing.
[13:50] <theadmin> jnhghy: I'm just wondering whether that's from the actual manpage or some package mantainer made a joke, eh
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> theadmin: it's the same in x.org
[13:52] <mkozjak> theadmin: ok, thanks
[13:52] <theadmin> hitsujiTMO: Ah, okay then.
[13:58] <Aut0Exec> hi
[13:58] <Aut0Exec> everyone ok?
[13:58] <theadmin> Aut0Exec: This is a support channel, please refrain from general chat (that can go to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to). But there has been no recent apocalypse from what I know.
[14:03] <zoidberg-> hey i have just noticed that the default /etc/passwd file on ubuntu has an irc user with /bin/sh, why is this user there?
[14:04] <theadmin> zoidberg-: Huh. That's for IRCD, but I have no idea why it's present by default.
[14:05] <zoidberg-> theadmin: I gathered that, but its a pretty poor assumption on ubuntu's part.
[14:05] <zoidberg-> I saw it and thought i'd been hacked, then had to check that its default account lol
[14:05] <zoidberg-> :"
[14:05] <zoidberg-> :|
[14:05] <lovelyrandomness> can someone help me with my boot problems? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382198/
[14:05] <lovelyrandomness> http://askubuntu.com/questions/372970/13-10-fde-doesnt-boot-on-vaio-pro-13
[14:06] <theadmin> zoidberg-: I'd report a bug but I have no idea which package you'd file it against
[14:07] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: when you say doesn't boot, what do you actually mean?
[14:07] <lovelyrandomness> http://askubuntu.com/questions/372970/13-10-fde-doesnt-boot-on-vaio-pro-13
[14:07] <lovelyrandomness> it doesn't load grub
[14:08] <lovelyrandomness> as in the uefi says operating system not found
[14:08] <PIEBOY> what can i talk about on this channel
[14:08] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: if the efi system partition encrypted?
[14:09] <theadmin> PIEBOY: This is the Ubuntu support channel. Any technical issues with Ubuntu Linux.
[14:09] <lovelyrandomness> not sure, my ubuntu installation is LVM and encrypted
[14:09] <theadmin> PIEBOY: If you want to do general talk, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:09] <lovelyrandomness> so i'd say yes
[14:09] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: are you on the live cd now?
[14:10] <lovelyrandomness> it's off, but i can boot it real quick
[14:10] <PIEBOY> my brother wants to know somthing but its a sexual question and someone told me  to go here
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> boot to the live cd so we can whats there
[14:10] <lovelyrandomness> sure thing, hang on and thanks for helping!
[14:11] <PIEBOY> can i ask it
[14:11] <lovelyrandomness> i'm in, hitsujiTMO
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | PIEBOY go ask in an appropriate channel
[14:12] <PIEBOY> ok
[14:14] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: first: whats the output of: fdisk -l
[14:15] <quick-> Hi , I updated my ubuntu and i am not able to log into my mysql after the restart .
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> quick-: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: might make it easier if you install pastebinit to the live iso: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:19] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: made it, finally: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382288/
[14:19] <derpherder> noob question here...I want to copy multiple directories to a directory...can I do cp -r /dir1 /dir2 /dir3  /endlocation?
[14:20] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: run: hmm, i'm wondering if thats more than 1 efi partition.
[14:20] <derpherder> with /endlocation being hte directory those files are being copied to?
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: can you run: lsblk | pastebinit
[14:21] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382307/
[14:22] <lovelyrandomness> i did erase everything during the install
[14:22] <lovelyrandomness> and as it offered me 256,1gb i accepted
[14:22] <derpherder> anyone?
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: is sdb your usb stick?
[14:23] <lovelyrandomness> my ubuntu install is waiting for me, i just need to get grub working :)
[14:23] <lovelyrandomness> yes
[14:23] <lovelyrandomness> it's a 16gb
[14:23] <Pici> derpherder: yes
[14:23] <lovelyrandomness> the ssd is 256gb
[14:23] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: why are there 2 partitions?
[14:24] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: i wouldn't know, as i said, i just did the default, encrypted setup, with erase the whole disk as option
[14:25] <lovelyrandomness> couldn't that be the unencrypted boot partition?
[14:25] <zetheroo> I would like to setup a secondary DNS server at the workplace using Ubuntu  -- is this simple to do?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: but on the usb. how exactly did you create the usb? can you mount /dev/sdb2
[14:27] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: via terminal on os x, as described on ubuntu.com
[14:27] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: mount /dev/sdb2  ... is there an EFI folder in there?
[14:27] <lovelyrandomness> i can't, it says can't find sdb2 in /etc/fstab
[14:28] <lovelyrandomness> hang on
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[14:28] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: already mounted
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> derpherder: I believe that will cp dir1 to dir2 or give an error.
[14:29] <lovelyrandomness> i see a 256 mb volume in nautilius
[14:29] <lovelyrandomness> nautilus
[14:29] <jhutchins_wk> derpherder: There is a manpage for cp.
[14:29] <lovelyrandomness> with efi and grub files
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: mount | pastebinit
[14:29] <lovelyrandomness> it's from media/ubuntu
[14:30] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: i have an idea what the problem is, just need to confirm it
[14:30] <lovelyrandomvaio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382339/
[14:30] <derpherder> jhutchins_wk: I just learned that dir have to have / at the end....so cp -r -g derp/ herp/ /dircopylocation            correct?
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: can you try again: sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt
[14:32] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: already mounted or busy
[14:33] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi
[14:33] <lovelyrandomness> i read that, but i can't write update-grub
[14:34] <lovelyrandomness> because of the cow problem, as written in my askubuntu post
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: ok, we'll have a look in what should be that actual efi part: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[14:35] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: done
[14:35] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: ls -l /mnt | pastebinit
[14:36] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382363/
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: ls -l /mnt/EFI | pastebinit
[14:37] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382363/
[14:37] <lovelyrandomvaio> sorry
[14:38] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382371/
[14:38] <lovelyrandomvaio> that
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: ls -l /mnt/EFI/ubuntu | pastebinit
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, seems the bootloader might be ok afterall
[14:39] <lovelyrandomvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382384/
[14:39] <lovelyrandomness> maybe because of the vaio stuff, as the last poster said here; http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi
[14:40] <lovelyrandomness> tried boot repair once, but didn't fix anything
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomvaio: yup gonna try that now. since it should be at least be getting to grub, it should just be a case of getting up the grub menu and editing the grub line
[14:41] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomvaio: so reboot the vaio and try tapping left shift, or right shift or esc  until you get the grub menu
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> lovelyrandomness: or you could just edit /etc/default/grub and make the menu pop up
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: if you can't get the grub menu at all let me know
[14:42] <lovelyrandomness> too late, already powered off
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> :K
[14:43] <lovelyrandomness> should i do that from live usb?
[14:43] <lovelyrandomness> or ssd
[14:43] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: from ssd
[14:43] <lovelyrandomness> roger
[14:45] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: nope, tried, right and l;eft shitft and es tapping after boot, it only says, "operating system not found"
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: boot back to the live cd
[14:45] <jhutchins_wk> lovelyrandomness: F1, F2, F12
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: do you have more than one entry in the grub menu for ubuntu?
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: sorry, the uefi menu
[14:47] <lovelyrandomness> i don't see any
[14:47] <lovelyrandomness> just the vaio logo and then the ubuntu screen
[14:48] <lovelyrandomness> jhutchins_wk: didn't work
[14:48] <lovelyrandomness> thanks
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: can you boot into the bios then
[14:48] <lovelyrandomness> yes sure
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> are there uefi entries for ubuntu?
[14:48] <lovelyrandomness> it has a graphical vaio menu, where i can do stuff like enter
[14:49] <lovelyrandomness> lemme try
[14:50] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: should be a list of uefi entries in the boot menu somewhere, where you'd normally see boot order
[14:51] <lovelyrandomness> damn, somehow can't enter the uefi now
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: what do you mean?
[14:52] <lovelyrandomness> i keep pressing that damn assist button but it now directly goes from the vaio logo to the operating system not found
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: that was probably a efi shell in your original efi system partition
[14:54] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: could be
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: boot to the live cd again and we'll try a different approach
[14:54] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: actually, i'm sorry, i have to go work right now :(
[14:54] <hitsujiTMO> np.
[14:55] <lovelyrandomness> thank you veru much for your effort
[14:55] <lovelyrandomness> i'll come back later, maybe you're still on
[14:55] <lovelyrandomness> thanks!
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> if not someone else should be able to help
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> np at all
[14:55] <lovelyrandomness> yeah, bye!
[15:00] <s_faraday> hi guys
[15:01] <s_faraday> trying to make a package got this error
[15:01] <s_faraday> how can I fix it
[15:01] <jpds> s_faraday: Well, what's the error.
[15:02] <jpds> s_faraday: And you're better off asking in #ubuntu-motu.
[15:02] <s_faraday> jpds: oh, tnanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/6382471/
[15:03] <jpds> s_faraday: That's someone's code being broken.
[15:04] <s_faraday> jpds: oops, what should I do now?
[15:04] <jpds> s_faraday: Talk to whoever wrote the code.
[15:04] <jpds> s_faraday: Or file a bug about it on the project's bug tracker.
[15:04] <s_faraday> jpds: ok, thanks
[15:04] <s_faraday> ;)
[15:05] <Grimm_> Hi , a few days ago i finally got ubuntu 13 and windows 7 installed on this UEFI machine , and everything was fine. Now windows messed up totally (surprise...) , and i was forced to reinstall windows . I think it overwritten the GRUB loader , as i cant choose to boot into ubuntu. Ubuntu is installed on a partition on a seperate internal HDD , windows on a SSD . Can i fix the GRUB to appear again without having to reinstall EVERYTHING
[15:05] <LewisLippsz> Hello - I'm having graphics and USB problems with a new installation of 13.04
[15:05] <Grimm_> the linux drive didn't get formatted , everything should be there as it was , just the GRUB 2 is gone :(
[15:07] <Grimm_> anyone ?
[15:08] <Paulo_neto> hi...
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: windows must of created a whole new efi system partition. easy fix tho. boot a live cd
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: when your in the live cd let me know i'll i'll talk you thru the fix
[15:09] <Grimm_> ok thx , live usb is also fine i assume ?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> Grimm_: ofc
[15:10] <wedr> hi
[15:10] <daftykins> hi
[15:10] <Grimm_> ok thx , ill reboot from the usb (thank god i didnt format that drive -.- ) This is exactly why i am moving to ubuntu , stupid windows fail
[15:10] <Grimm_> see you in a minute
[15:10] <wedr> what is about bug 1217196 ?
[15:11] <wedr> i have upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and have problems with keyboard shortcuts, layout switching, media keys and so on
[15:11] <wedr> is any workaround exists?
[15:13] <docmur> Has anyone had any success getting the TL-WN7200 working on Ubuntu 12.04?  I've tried following guides for using the RT2870 but I can't seem to get it working
[15:14] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: those issues seem to apply to the gnome ppa, not the version that comes with ubuntu. what keys don't work for you?
[15:16] <LewisLippsz> When I try to log into my new 13.04 installation, I get a screen full of crazy graphical glitches
[15:16] <LewisLippsz> I have had ubuntu on this machine before, but not with this graphics card
[15:17] <Touhou11> LewisLippsz: What card do you have?
[15:17] <LewisLippsz> it's a geforce 250
[15:17] <LewisLippsz> gts250
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> LewisLippsz: and what driver are you using?
[15:18] <Cristian77>     hi all
[15:18] <LewisLippsz> well, idk - I haven't yet reached the point where I can get the proper nvidia drivers
[15:18] <Cristian77> i'm trying to make works Juniper Network connect in 13.10
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> LewisLippsz: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:18] <Cristian77> looks like i hae a problem with Java
[15:19] <Ari-Yang> LewisLippsz: if you're using proprietary drivers, you may want to try out the open source, or vice-versa
[15:19] <Cristian77> i got the following error message from java console : Exception: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
[15:19] <LewisLippsz> can you instruct me how to get that log file?
[15:20] <hitsujiTMO> LewisLippsz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:22] <LewisLippsz> okay, hitsujiTMO, I'll do so
[15:22] <LewisLippsz> thanks
[15:22] <grimm_> ok , instead of putting the ubuntu liveusb in , i got confused and by accident put the bootrepair disk liveusb in , when it booted from that , i was like "hey why not give it a shot" , and i think it repaired the GRUB 2 , is that possible ?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> LewisLippsz: that should generate a url, just post the url here
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: depends of if its efi aware or not
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: wouldn't hurt to try
[15:23] <grimm_> can i run a check ? Im not in ubuntu (not live , the installed)
[15:23] <grimm_> im now*
[15:23] <zerowaitstate> how do you pull a list of deb packages that have been recently updated on a system?
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: as in it booted ok?
[15:23] <grimm_> it said something about EFI , and it required internet connection , so i connected to internet and let its do its job ,
[15:24] <grimm_> it seems like
[15:24] <zerowaitstate> I pulled an Ubuntu update yesterday and now my X.org is segfaulting
[15:24] <Ari-Yang> you can use the internet with a livecd btw
[15:24] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: cd /boot/efi/EFI
[15:24] <grimm_> without the liveusb connected or anything , i got the grub 2 back , and i could boot in ubuntu and windows
[15:24] <spacely> hello... have a htpc runnin 13.10. i need it to be networked to a win 7 box that has my videos. theyre both connected to my router but cant see each other. whats the easiest way to do that?
[15:25] <grimm_> hitsujiTMO, should i put that line in command ? little confused.
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: yups
[15:25] <grimm_> grimm@The:/boot/efi/EFI$
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: ls -l
[15:26] <grimm_> total 3
[15:26] <grimm_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 marra  5 12:29 Boot
[15:26] <grimm_> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 marra  5 12:19 Microsoft
[15:26] <grimm_> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 marra  5 19:04 ubuntu
[15:26] <grimm_> grimm@The:/boot/efi/EFI$
[15:26] <FloodBot1> grimm_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:26] <grimm_> sorry floodbot :(
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: yup it threw a ubuntu bootsrap there so you should be fine now
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> bootstrap*
[15:27] <grimm_> pfieuw thank god for that , i just got the idea i could start everything from zero again
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: if you're reinstall windows in the future, don't delete or format that efi partition
[15:27] <grimm_> yeah this windows fail made me even more convinced about dropping the entire microsoft thing totally
[15:28] <grimm_> i will keep that in mind , thanks :) I didn't actually delete anything , i tried to 'repair' the windows installation as it got totally stuck with some failed updates , and then it reinstalled windows on the same drive
[15:29] <grimm_> but maybe i did and im just not aware of that
[15:30] <Jinxy> GENTLEMEN. What in God's name is happening here? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7372661
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> grimm_: it may not have actually wiped that so, what it might have done is just reinstalled the bootloader in the efi manager. it would just have been a case or changing the boot order again then
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: problem #1    you're running as root
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[15:31] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: volume up, volume down, and all the keys combo that i definied in text entry
[15:31] <grimm_> i didn't knew the boot order could change by such action , i thought only by action of me in UEFI
[15:31] <grimm_> i always learn so much in this IRC , incredible
[15:32] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: should i just kick the ppa/gnome repo and use serial gnome instead=?
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: try apt-add-repository instead
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: are you using the gnome next ppa?
[15:32] <strit> Jinxy, You are running as root. You still need to use "sudo" because of the rights you get are different from root's rights.
[15:32] <grimm_> hitsujiTMO, thanks hero !
[15:33] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: how can i check  it?
[15:33] <Jinxy> hitsujiTMO: Okay, I am following this guide, and it says to install as root? Or atleast, in the example it states 'sudo -s' http://wiki.nginx.org/Install
[15:33] <wedr> to be completely sure
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: did you install a gnome ppa?
[15:33] <quick-> exit
[15:33] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: no, i havent
[15:33] <Jinxy> strit: Ah yes, that may be the answer (as always :P )
[15:33] <strit> Jinxy, yeah. Do it with Sudo. Not as root. :)
[15:33] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: i did nothing similar explicitly
[15:34] <begoyangel> hello
[15:34] <begoyangel> it's my first time in IRChat
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: then your issue is prob to do with the acpi specific you your laptop. have you booted with acpi=off?
[15:34] <Jinxy> strit: Right oh :) Now, why do you think the guide would specify 'sudo -s' though?
[15:35] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: no, should i try?
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: because it's an awful guide
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: no
[15:35] <strit> Jinxy, As I recall the -s is doing sudo rights for that terminal session only. Not sure though.
[15:35] <hitsujiTMO> wedr:that would account for your issue if you were
[15:36] <strit> See you guys later. Maybe this weekend. :)
[15:36] <hitsujiTMO> Jinxy: anyhow, try sudo apt-add-repository instead of sudo add-apt-repository
[15:37] <gatrof> hello "sudo"  says  " unable to change to sudoers gid:" to a "guest" . how to launch sudo ?
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> Jinxy: and after you add the repo run sudo apt-get update
[15:37] <Jinxy> hitsujiTMO: Okay, I'll try that, thankies
[15:37] <gatrof> i need to edit fstab so as to recover access to /HOME partition
[15:37] <Jinxy> Ari-Yang: Okay
[15:37] <Jinxy> Ari-Yang: :)
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: can you pastebin the output of: lsmod
[15:38] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Jdw5Nu3M
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> gatrof: boot to recovery mode and do it there, you have to be logged in as a user in the sudo group to use the sudo command
[15:39] <gatrof> ah
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: what model thinkpad do you have?
[15:41] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: E530
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: it seems the bios for that laptop isn't acpi compliant
[15:44] <siberiannerd> hey guys, i got problem with usb mice when playing some game for example, could someone give me a hint on where to dig in order to get to the logical end of this problem http://pastebin.ovrnet.ru/paste/INJ3cY4j#g8xGsR1y
[15:45] <Ari-Yang> !ping
[15:45] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: here's a fix for the brightness keys at least https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1158710
[15:45] <siberiannerd> when not playing - everything is perfect, dmesg is clear, goes well under 12.04 (13.04 currently)
[15:45] <crankharder> I just apt-get dist-upgraded and rebooted, and now I'm ending up inthis initramfs shell (12.04 LTS) -- should be fully up to date.  what do I do in this shell to figure out what is wrong?
[15:47] <fishduck> so there's an option in the update manager: "notify me of new ubuntu version". If I chose "for any new version" and install 'em every time they come.. will it form my point of view just look like any other update?
[15:48] <hitsujiTMO> wedr: no entry for it in thinkwiki yet, so don't know specifics for other acpi keys
[15:48] <wedr> hitsujiTMO: ok, thank you very match
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> crankharder: try booting an older kernel from the grub menu
[15:50] <fishduck> what happens if I upgrade ubuntu?
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[15:51] <siberiannerd> looks like my situation https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1103164
[15:52] <fishduck> hitsujiTMO: precise
[15:52] <Touhou11> fishduck: Ubuntu version upgrades are fairly explicit, you can't mistake them for a regular update
[15:52] <fishduck> hitsujiTMO: du I risk breaking my system or losing my stuff or whatever?
[15:52] <fishduck> Touhou11: *
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: there's no lts upgrades out atm.
[15:54] <fishduck> hitsujiTMO: I'll show updates "for any new version". If I install them, what problems can I expect?
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: but yes, in an upgrade theres a chance of breakage, especially when it comes to proprietary graphics drivers
[15:54] <fishduck> shoot.
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: any new version, will prob allow you to upgrade to 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 route
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: if you want to try an upgrade, ALWAYS backup everything first
[15:56] <Touhou11> fishduck: An upgrade shouldn't affect files in your /home directory or other personal files. Even if your OS bricks you can recover them
[15:56] <DrMax_> man the new nautilus sucks. I'm sorry for the people that worked hard on it... but it really does. >:/
[15:56] <DrMax_> How can I get back the functionality of pre-13.04 ?
[15:56] <fishduck> alright Touhou11. Thanks hitsujiTMO for the heads up.
[15:57] <siberiannerd> in general, what should i do if i face such bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1103164
[15:57] <siberiannerd> as a user
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: unless you actually want some newer version of something specific i'd suggest sticking to 12.04 and wait for 14.04
[15:57] <fishduck> hitsujiTMO: with newer versions, what do you get?
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> siberiannerd: report a bug. test other usb devices to see if its specific to that device. test that device on other machines to see if its something specific to that machine.
[15:58] <Touhou11> DrMax_: Linux Mint forked the earlier version of Nautilus, it's called Nemo
[15:59] <siberiannerd> hitsujiTMO, but developers know about it already https://plus.google.com/116960357493251979546/posts/RZpndv4BCCD
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: just later versions of sofware and some changes to others, i.e., support for one package being dropped in favour of another
[15:59] <DrMax_> earlier to what point?
[16:00] <hitsujiTMO> siberiannerd: more data is good. thats why you report the bug. report it and mak it as a duplicate of that other bug
[16:00] <siberiannerd> hitsujiTMO, ok
[16:01] <DrMax_> I try to adapt to new versions... gnome3 look-and-feel is better.... but this "file" non-sense is just stupid. The usability issues are numerous and there are no fixes for them
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> mark*
[16:01] <siberiannerd> thanks, hitsujiTMO
[16:02] <DrMax_> Touhou11 : nice suggestion. Nemo seems to be the old nautilus with an actually usable tree view!
[16:02] <DrMax_> nice!
[16:02] <lduros> hi, in my firefox i have Java Plug-in 1.6.0_45 which is deactivated because of vulnerabilities. How can I get an updated version?
[16:05] <DrMax_> Touhou11 : thanks a lot
[16:05] <DrMax_> you just octupled my productivity :p
[16:06] <fishduck> hitsujiTMO: are PPAs updated if you upgrade the system?
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: not necessarily. its recommended to disable ppas for an upgrade. or even purge
[16:08]  * fishduck is living on the edge
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | fishduck more details here
[16:09] <rtd1123> I have several active processes for /sbin/init that are showing 99% CPU usage, is this normal or something that can be fixed?
[16:10] <gatrof> when i boot, fstab message says option is unknow for home partition  : 'default'. But thats a correct value !?
[16:10] <gatrof>  when booting, ubuntu sask "manual" or "skip", using "manual" i get into some line-command mode,
[16:10] <gatrof> when i do "skip" i got access to the normal login display, login as "guest" is fine, but login as me accepts the password but brings me back to the login window
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: a service is prob stuck in a reboot loop
[16:11] <rtd1123> hitsujiTMO: Is there an easy way to find out which?
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: have a look in syslog
[16:11] <gatrof> i was told to enter repair mode, that could be the command line when choosing "manual", but what to do there to get access to the fstab and edit it ?
[16:12] <gatrof> will its adress be /etc/fstab in case mounting has not occured ?
[16:12] <gatrof> blkid says void now
[16:13] <rtd1123> hitsujiTMO: seems like it is Postfix
[16:13] <gatrof> this has changed : it says all now
[16:13] <gatrof> and it begins with strange : /dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
[16:13] <bgardner> lduros: Should be 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre', unless you want to stay with a specific 1.6 version.
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: stop the service and see if init drops in cpu usage
[16:14] <rtd1123> ok
[16:14] <lduros> ok, thanks
[16:14] <bgardner> lduros: See also 'sudo update-java-alternatives' and 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[16:15] <s_faraday> I try these commands for generating usermanual pdfs for a package: "make pdf" and "make doc"
[16:15] <rtd1123> hitsujiTMO: it did not
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: tail the syslog
[16:15] <s_faraday> how can I find out that where they have been created?
[16:15] <s_faraday> I can't find them!
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: anything specific show up?
[16:16] <rtd1123> hitsujiTMO: nothing really
[16:16] <rtd1123> nothing new popping up
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: is init still on 99%
[16:17] <rtd1123> yes
[16:18] <rtd1123> I have 4 /sbin/init processes, 99, 42, 38, 29% usage
[16:18] <gatrof> ok its "defaults", not "default"
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: what version of ubuntu is this?
[16:18] <rtd1123> 9.10
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: 9.10 is not supported, you'll need to upgrade
[16:20] <rtd1123> Is there a good set of instructions for doing so that you can recommend?
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: its possibly this bug which goes all the way to 11.10 http://askubuntu.com/questions/68144/init-process-at-100-cpu-usage
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> !upgrade | rtd1123
[16:21] <rtd1123> Thanks!
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: you'll need to upgrade to 10.04 minimum, but i'd recommend do
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> going to 12.04 if you can
[16:21] <rtd1123> will do
[16:21] <rtd1123> Thanks for your help, much appreciated!
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> rtd1123: np
[16:24] <researcher123> which is the best software for novices for web development?
[16:25] <duckxx> researcher123, drupal.org
[16:25] <Pici> !best | researcher123
[16:25] <rtd1123> drupal++
[16:25] <rawrmonster> I was wondering it may be a long shot but here it goes. I know when i plug in my usb wireless mouse it detects the battery and the life left in the battery. Is there a way to check other usb batteries that dont show up in the default battery bar?
[16:25] <researcher123> rtd1123: How do I install drupal+++
[16:26] <rtd1123> If you're using command line, go to your web root folder, and type "drush dl drupal"
[16:26] <rtd1123> If you don't have "drush" installed on your server, do that first
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> researcher123: you could also go with something saner such as django
[16:27] <rtd1123> Drupal does have a very big learning curve
[16:27] <rtd1123> but once you get it, the sky is the limit
[16:28] <b0x> u suggest drupal as a NOVICE solution for web dev? as opposed to wordpress or joomla?
[16:28] <b0x> :/
[16:29] <rtd1123> I wish someone told me to skip wordpress and joomla when I first started
[16:29] <b0x> heh
[16:29] <b0x> mistakes/20-20 hindsight/learning experience :p
[16:29] <rtd1123> true story
[16:32] <researcher123> rtd1123: I did sudo apt-get install drush.Install over.Then I typed drush dl drupal.Install over.Now how to open it?
[16:32] <rtd1123> that will dl Drupal as a tar/gzip file in your webroot, you need to unpackage that
[16:33] <KeyboardWarrior> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[16:33] <rtd1123> configure the file at /sites/default/files/settings.php so that it has your DB Credentials
[16:33] <rtd1123> if that file doesn't exist, make a copy of the default settings file and rename it
[16:33] <KeyboardWarrior> It says under "Source model" Ubuntu contains proprietary components. What are these?
[16:33] <b0x> rtd1123: please refer him to the drupal.org site
[16:34] <rtd1123> I will PM him
[16:34] <b0x> or #drupal
[16:34] <researcher123> rtd1123: Its unpackaged now.
[16:34] <b0x> you shouldnt be modifying the settings.php
[16:34] <b0x> you should run the install
[16:34] <b0x> thats what its for.
[16:34] <auronandace> KeyboardWarrior: the install media ships with the proprietary graphics drivers
[16:34] <b0x> researcher123: #drupal
[16:34] <b0x> researcher123: www.drupal.org
[16:35] <b0x> its not really a 'novice' solution though
[16:35] <KeyboardWarrior> auronandace, oh? I didn't see any nvidia or AMD drivers there.
[16:35] <KeyboardWarrior> auronandace, I tried modprobing for fglrx, found nothing
[16:35] <auronandace> KeyboardWarrior: actually, come to think of it i'm probably wrong there
[16:35] <KeyboardWarrior> You are
[16:38] <KeyboardWarrior> So... I'm not allowed to redistribute Ubuntu. Isn't that a GPL violation, and render Ubuntu proprietary software?
[16:39] <Danato> how do i change my login screen brightness? when it boots up its so dim I cant even say the pc is open
[16:39] <therazr> KeyboardWarrior: you're allowed to redistribute Ubuntu, yes
[16:40] <KeyboardWarrior> My bad, I meant redistribute a modified version of Ubuntu.
[16:40] <KeyboardWarrior> Which apparently I'm allowed to do with almost every other Linux distro out there.
[16:40] <auronandace> KeyboardWarrior: you can, you just can't call it ubuntu
[16:40] <chemist> yes but you cannot redistribute it with the name "ubuntu"
[16:40] <chemist> since you modified it
[16:41] <KeyboardWarrior> auronandace, not what it says in canonical's intellectual property agreement.
[16:41] <therazr> KeyboardWarrior: You have to change the name. Only Ubuntu official derivatives can keep the Ubuntu names
[16:42] <KeyboardWarrior> Ah.
[16:42] <KeyboardWarrior> This applies to *ubuntu, like xubuntu.
[16:42] <zykotick9> Danato: do you happen to be using a EEE PC by any chance?
[16:42] <pepijndevos> I just installed Ubuntu on quite an ancient machine. After installing I got a back screen with a cursor.
[16:42] <HP_> I updated ubuntu 13.10 .. after restarting i could find blank screen for the root account .. but when i open the guest account its opening .. how to solve the problem? thanks :)
[16:42] <pepijndevos> *black
[16:43] <KeyboardWarrior> http://www.canonical.com/intellectual-property-policy it's scary free software comes with this.
[16:43] <Danato> zykotick9: idk whats an EEE pc sorry
[16:43] <zykotick9> Danato: ok, never mind then ;)  best of luck.
[16:43] <pepijndevos> So I installed the proprietary drivers, then it booted to a black screen, that turned whit, it is currently red.
[16:43] <zykotick9> Danato: btw EEE were models of netbooks by Asus
[16:44] <auronandace> KeyboardWarrior: this is a support channel for ubuntu issues, if you want to complain go elsewhere
[16:44] <HP_> no solution?
[16:45] <hacyard> hello everyone, my touchpad doesnt work all of a sudden. I cannot move the cursor by rubbing the touchpad.
[16:45] <Danato> zykotick9: I just googled that lol, mine is a Lenovo, but would it be different in this case?
[16:46] <pepijndevos> it turned pink after pressing the power buttons 0_o
[16:46] <hacyard> when I use fn keys, it sometimes makes a move after repeated rubbings while holding F-key pressed
[16:46] <HP_> ok thanks for help :)
[16:46] <hacyard> I shut down and restarted several times, the same
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> ??
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> hello
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> hello
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> hello
[16:47] <FloodBot1> shaoyongyang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> ??
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> ??
[16:47] <shaoyongyang> 有人没？
[16:48] <shaoyongyang> chinese language.
[16:48] <shaoyongyang> .....
[16:48] <rypervenche> !cn | shaoyongyang
[16:49] <shaoyongyang> hello
[16:49] <rypervenche> Hi there shaoyongyang, 嗨
[16:49] <shaoyongyang> e,
[16:49] <superjoe30> hi - I just plugged in my android phone into saucy, just to charge it. I get a message box saying "unable to mount android phone" every 3 seconds
[16:49] <superjoe30> it's driving me nuts
[16:49] <superjoe30> I don't even want to do anything on my phone
[16:50] <shaoyongyang> hoho~~
[16:50] <cheesecakes> superjoe30: you could disable auto-mount in nautilus
[16:50] <cheesecakes> it'll make that message go away
[16:51] <ragusource> hey guys, I'm trying to setup chroot for sftp on a ubuntu server. but i'm getting Connection to server.com closed by remote host.
[16:51] <bekks> ragusource: Then check the server logs whats happening.
[16:51] <ragusource> bekks: /var/log/auth.log shows that the password was accepted
[16:52] <cheesecakes> superjoe30: its in preferences>media
[16:52] <hacyard> can anyone help with my above problem please?
[16:52] <Danato> is there a way to adjust my login screen brightness?
[16:52] <wedr> im a litte bit dissapointed, each time i upgrade the system i get multiple issues since 6.10
[16:53] <superjoe30> cheesecakes, thanks I will try that
[16:53] <fishduck> hi, I installed virtualbox from their website, but I don't know how I did that. How do you generally uninstall something+
[16:54] <bekks> fishduck: Check wether yu used the ,deb or the generic installer. "dpkg -l | grep virtualbox"
[16:55] <fishduck> yep, thanks. (will man dpkg)
[16:55] <fishduck> so.. there are plenty of "packaging/installation" software such as deb, yum, apt etc. Why aren't there just one?
[16:56] <superjoe30> cheesecakes, I don't see media in nautilus preferences - are you sure that wasn't moved in saucy?
[16:56] <LjL> one million dollar question fishduck
[16:56] <LjL> fishduck: anyway, Ubuntu uses APT (.deb files), so you shouldn't really be using anything else to install things unless you really have to
[16:57] <bekks> fishduck: Because a) a lot of them are different frontends (apt, yum), b) different fileformats (deb, rpm) and c) different approaches (package management systems: dpkg, rpm) to the same problem.
[16:57] <zykotick9> fishduck: personally, i'd suggest NOT installing software from outside Ubuntu's repos...  YMMV
[16:57] <farhan> can someone help me a bit about setting up a wifi hotspot on linux for using internet on an android phone? I have tried various methods ( scripts/ tools) and created a hotspot which my phone can see but cannot connect, saying an authentication error has occurred. TY.
[16:59] <fishduck> zykotick9: sometimes, ubuntu is 5 years after. Sure, the 5 year old version works, but, I mean..
[16:59] <zykotick9> !latest | fishduck
[16:59] <OvrLrd-Q|B> So searching I've found lots of posts where the unity launcher is missing or icons wont show up, but I have the opposite problem. I have an entire bar full of empty icons from programs I've closed and they wont go away (12.04 LTS)
[16:59] <hacyard> hello everyone, my cursor moves either not at all, or with great pains, an inch at a time. I made a quick disk check, it is healthy. I sudo-updated and upgraded. still the same
[17:00] <fishduck> bekks: they are different.. but tries to solve the same problem. Is that what you'e saying? :o
[17:01] <rypervenche> fishduck: Many people have different ways of implementing the GNU/Linux operating system. There is choice this way. You can choose to follow whomever you like :)
[17:01] <fishduck> ubottu: I can give you an example why that "philosophy" isn't always a good philosophy. You could say the same thing about Photoshop from 2002 and not upgrade to Photoshop 2013
[17:02] <fishduck> zykotick9: ^
[17:03] <sventon> hi all, I struggled the whole day yesterday to get Ubnutu installed on a bootable USB.  Is there anybody here that have been able to do such an install on osx ?
[17:03] <zykotick9> fishduck: you suffer from SNS in my opinion... there are no know cures ;)
[17:03] <richringer> I'm running 13.10 and trying to open a port using ufw and I still cannot connect.. am I missing a step somewhere?
[17:03] <fishduck> sventon: what's the prob?    ... osx, you mean installing unbutu on a mac from a usb stick?
[17:03] <fishduck> zykotick9: sns?
[17:04] <crankharder> anyone have a default precise /etc/apt/sources.list they could pastebin for me?
[17:04] <zykotick9> fishduck: from debian's dpkgs bot - Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released.
[17:04] <minimec> crankharder: You can recreate one yourself... http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:04] <LjL> fishduck, Windows is a bit different from Linux though. on Windows, app makers (like Adobe) are responsible for releasing versions of things (and deciding when they're "stable" for release). but on Linux, that's the distribution's job. so Ubuntu packages something (puts it in the repositories) when they think it's stable, when the packager has time, when it works correctly with the needed versions of libraries, etc
[17:05] <sventon> fishduck: no I mean running from a bootable USB stick
[17:05] <sventon> (then rebooting my machine)
[17:05] <crankharder> minimec: nothing 'default' about checking a bunch of boxes to pick what i want in it
[17:06] <fishduck> zykotick9: some of the non-updated stuff in ubuntus repository haven't followed the technological development. WPA2 is unsupported in one of the protocol analyzers for example, so I had to get the newest software from their website since it's over 5 years old in the repository. So much for SNS. However, I think you suffer from SNS-hyper-phobia
[17:07] <minimec> crankharder: paste.ubuntucom/6383120/
[17:08] <zykotick9> fishduck: "i think you suffer..." you're probably right!  i'm VERY conservative with my computers... i want them to work all the time.
[17:09] <acecabana> last night when I shut down my Ubuntu 13.10 laptop, it hung on a blank screen. I had to hard shutdown. Any documentation on this?
[17:09] <fishduck> zykotick9: having the latest fancy stuff you either _need_ or that greatly enhances your work... does not exclude a fully operating and stable system just because ubuntu haven't updated it.
[17:09] <crankharder> minimec: ty )
[17:09] <crankharder> :)
[17:10] <ragusource> ok i've made some progress, now I get the following error:
[17:10] <ragusource> "/bin/bash: No such file or directory"
[17:10] <zykotick9> fishduck: there is no debate here.  it would be OT.  best of luck.
[17:11] <hacyard> hello, I cannot move my cursor via touchpad. it either doesnt move or moves an inch every 10 trials
[17:11] <suyash1629> can anyone please help me to install libglapi-mesa (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6) on ubuntu 12.04
[17:11] <hacyard> when I keep F1 key pressed, it moves a lot easier, but still not like it normally does.
[17:12] <fishduck> suyash1629: tried sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa ?
[17:13] <fishduck> suyash1629: do you need its source code /object files so you can compile software that it depends on?
[17:14] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:14] <suyash1629> i need it because im getting The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libgl1-mesa-glx : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6)                    Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.2) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:14] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[17:14] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[17:14] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[17:15] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[17:15] <suyash1629> fishduck: i need it because im getting The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libgl1-mesa-glx : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 8.0.4-0ubuntu0.6)                    Recommends: libgl1-mesa-dri (>= 7.2) E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[17:15] <minimec> suyash1629: I guess you have to choose the package that is matching the kernel you use in precise. there are different packages... libglapi-mesa, libglapi-mesa-lts-quantal, libglapi-mesa-lts-raring.
[17:15] <minimec> suyash1629: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=libglapi-mesa&searchon=names
[17:18] <fishduck> suyash1629: what minec said. Also, there are sometimes development packages, ending with foo-dev that differs from foo
[17:18] <fishduck> sometimes named like that, used to compile stuff.
[17:18] <hacyard> help, please!
[17:18] <chemist> hacyard with what :D
[17:19] <chemist> hacyard do you have any other OS installed on your system?
[17:19] <chemist> does it do the same?
[17:20] <hacyard> chemist, it is only ubuntu
[17:20] <zodiac> sup guys.
[17:20] <suyash1629> fishduck: this was asked when i was trying to create build environment for building android source code.. well what you said me to do at first has worked for me.. thanks
[17:20] <hacyard> chemist, my cursor stopped moving all of a sudden. I mean it either doesnt move or moves an inch every 5-10 rubs of touchpad
[17:21] <chemist> hacyard if you would triy it on another OS and it see it do the same
[17:21] <chemist> than it's a hardware issue
[17:21] <crankharder> okay, I removed ubuntu-3.8.0-33 and -32.  now only -29 is installed.  If I book direct to that, the screen goes into autosave mode shortly after the purple ubuntu screen.  If I book to recovery mode, and then select 'normal boot'  I can get to my login screen -- not sure what to look for here
[17:21] <hacyard> chemist, keeping fn+F1 pressed and rubbing the touchpad moves it easier, though not like normal
[17:21] <bekks> chemist: I strongly doubt that.
[17:21] <chemist> yes well...probably a bad contact
[17:21] <chemist> and when you press on those 2 keys
[17:21] <chemist> it's ok again
[17:21] <bekks> hacyard: Most likely you "locked" the touchpad somehow.
[17:22] <chemist> putting pressure on the keyboard
[17:22] <bekks> hacyard: By using some (unwanted) gesture.
[17:22] <hacyard> bekks, how can it be locked?
[17:22] <chemist> it is not locked
[17:22] <chemist> as it does move
[17:22] <chemist> but only a little
[17:22] <hacyard> bekks I dont have a gesture mode, it is an old machine
[17:22] <crankharder> also, of note... running dist-upgrade doesn't pick up any additional kernels to be intstalled even tho 32/33 aren't on the system anymore.
[17:22] <bekks> chemist: Thats still called a lock, for giving you the ability of moving the cursor pixelwise...
[17:23] <bekks> hacyard: touchpads often have a few "builtin"-gestures.
[17:23] <hacyard> bekks, ah, ok
[17:23] <chemist> hacyard my advice to you is that you open up your laptop and check the cable connection with your touchpad - that is if you can not find any software-related solution
[17:23] <yeyeman> does anyone know how to completely remove the auto complete from geany?
[17:23] <hacyard> bekks, chemist, is it worth to reinstall touchpad drivers etc. if that is at all possible?
[17:24] <yeyeman> I have everything like that turned off in settings
[17:24] <bekks> hacyard: You dont need to reinstall anything.
[17:24] <yeyeman> but when I start typing a parenthesis when using an existing function..
[17:24] <yeyeman> a little box pops up
[17:24] <hacyard> bekks, chemist, the machine is still within guarantee. maybe I should take it to the service. but they will see that I dumped preinstalled windows
[17:24] <chemist> hacyard no reinstalling...
[17:24] <yeyeman> it's really annoying
[17:24] <bekks> hacyard: I have the same issue sometimes - using Windows, and a touchpad in a Dell laptop. I still havent found a reliable solution, but double-/triple-padding at the border of the touchpad solves the issue for me.
[17:25] <chemist> hacyard if you dumped it there is no guarantee anymore i'm afraid :D
[17:25] <hacyard> chemist, maybe I can use the recovery disk of windows from an earlier computer?
[17:25] <chemist> hacyard maybe bekks is right...try google it
[17:25] <chemist> touchpad gesture locking
[17:25] <chemist> or smth
[17:26] <chemist> with your computer model
[17:26] <hacyard> chemist, bekks, I'll try googling
[17:26] <chemist> hacyard i don't think so..
[17:26] <chemist> hacyard once you formated the partition windows was on i think your guarantee is gone
[17:27] <bekks> chemist: Thats not tue.
[17:27] <bekks> chemist: You dont have a guarantuee on the software, but on the hardware. So it totally doesnt matter what you do with the software.
[17:28] <bekks> chemist: And IF it is a hardware defect as you suspect, the software doesnt matter at all.
[17:28] <hacyard> chemist, since this is a second-hand bought machine, they may not be so tight on windows serial number etc.. ,if I can reinstall from recovery disc (if it is technically possible)
[17:29] <bekks> hacyard: I'd just google, and then just call the support and ask them about that gesture that locks your touchpad.
[17:29] <bekks> hacyard: Basically there is no need to even bring it in.
[17:29] <chemist> bekks you can damage your hardware with bad software
[17:29] <chemist> so what you say
[17:29] <chemist> isn't quite true either
[17:30] <hacyard> bekks, maybe someone here knows what gesture it may be? I have a thinkpad r400..
[17:30] <bekks> chemist: Please show me the software that can damage the contacts of a touchpad.
[17:30] <chemist> well ... we're talking about guarantee
[17:30] <chemist> for the whole computer
[17:30] <chemist> not the touchpad :D
[17:31] <bekks> chemist: So the touchpad is part of the computer?! :P
[17:31] <bekks> hacyard: Try this, e.g.: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Multitouch-Gestures/td-p/453775
[17:31] <chemist> bekks haha :D
[17:32] <chemist> so your guarantee is gone for let's say...the processor or the graphics...but it's still on for your touchpad?
[17:32] <hacyard> bekks, thank you, I'll try it
[17:34] <grimeton> https://fixubuntu.com/
[17:35] <bekks> grimeton: Ah, unwanted advertising. :>
[17:36] <grimeton> :D
[17:37] <gartral> hey all, I have a huge issue. I installed 13.10 onto a new hdd and in the same machine, my old 13.04 drive is still there, I can't mount/decrypt my old /home folder to retrieve it's contents! >.<
[17:38] <krabador> hi people, with that http://paste.ubuntu.com/6383103/ i've in 13.10 , suspend problems
[17:38] <krabador> pc locks on suspend
[17:38] <krabador> and i must force reboot
[17:38] <krabador> please help
[17:38] <jhutchins_wk> gartral: Can you boot to 13.04?
[17:39] <gartral> jhutchins_wk: I can, yes
[17:40] <jhutchins_wk> gartral: Can you access your home there?
[17:40] <gartral> jhutchins_wk: yes
[17:40] <MissJule> hi, i tried to install a .deb (printer driver). i unpacked the .tar.gz archive, the I tried dpkg -i <packagename>.deb. i got the error message Unterprozess dpkg-split gab den Fehlerwert 2 zurück (means subprocess dpkg-split returned errorcode 2). i googled the problem. I found out it might have to do with 64bit system I tried sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i <packagename>.deb, still the same error. any advice how to still inst
[17:40] <MissJule> all it?
[17:40] <adom> hi all, just upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 a couple days ago, and now I'm seeing my keyboard keys getting stuck and becoming unresponsive sometimes during high CPU usage (primarily while in wine). Any idea why?
[17:40] <gartral> jhutchins_wk:  but I can't mount the 13.10 home from 13.04, and vice-versa
[17:41] <adom> MissJule: installing the 32bit libraries for 64bit OS might help?
[17:41] <jhutchins_wk> MissJule: The tar archive had a .deb in it?  That would be odd, .deb is an archived format to begin with.
[17:41] <SPEEDWAVE> hurricane haiyan hit our country please pray for us...
[17:42] <jhutchins_wk> gartral: Copy the files to a third location that both can access.
[17:42] <intrader> Anyone, I have manually installed freemind - it runs OK via commad ./freemind from directory where it is stored. I have tried to lock freemind to the launcher, but that kills the running instance; how do I lock freemind to the launcher
[17:42] <gartral> jhutchins_wk: can't don't have a drive withenough space, it's about 250 gb
[17:43] <minimec> intrader: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[17:43] <geoffmcc> ls
[17:43]  * Anuska ubuntu is the best :)
[17:44] <allu2> I want an Anuska Ubuntu too :(
[17:47] <Moc> After this morning kernel update, my laptop wont boot saying there missing kernel image
[17:48] <gartral> Moc: can you boot into recovery mode?
[17:49] <Moc> trying..
[17:49] <Moc> yes, that seem to work
[17:50] <Moc> weird, after doing this and rebooting, now it working ok...
[17:50] <A13> hi
[17:50] <crankharder> why is it that after removing these two kernel packages:  3.8.0-32 and 33, I 'apt-get dist-upgrade' isn't showing any packages that need to be installed?
[17:50] <gartral> Moc: then likely your grub didn't update correctly, I've seen this happen, run grub-install /dev/sda
[17:50] <MissJule> yes - it was .deb.tar.gz. I unpacked it with tar -xf
[17:51] <Moc> gartral: k thanks ...
[17:51] <citrusfizz> how can i force owner:group to a directory recursively?   currently when a user uploads a file via ftp it sets it as their user
[17:51] <citrusfizz> and other users cannot change it
[17:51] <Moc> Getting back to work now !! wee :)
[17:51] <gartral> citrusfizz: chown -R user:group /dir/ectory
[17:53] <gartral> Moc: did that work?
[17:55] <dave_> a
[17:55] <intrader> minimec, I don't get the command 'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop' to run
[17:56] <craigbass1976> I have 777 permissions on a pdf.  If I touch it, the timestamp changes.  When I try to open it, I get a permission denied error in evince.  What gives?
[17:56] <minimec> intrader: guess you look for a different 'mi<tab>' ;)
[17:56] <gartral> craigbass1976: strange, is that pdf on a network share?
[17:57] <kostkon> intrader, there are menu editors in the software centre
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> craigbass1976  777 is not a good idea, try 755
[17:57] <craigbass1976> it is, but the share is shared out from the box I'm on
[17:57] <citrusfizz> gartral: i don't think that will make it sticky
[17:57] <to_mashek_> hi people. I have a problem with microphone in ubuntu 12.04
[17:57] <craigbass1976> gartral, ^^
[17:57] <to_mashek_> nothing from the internet worked for me
[17:57] <MissJule> i cd-ed into packages and could install the 64bit .deb's but normally when installing it on 32 bit there is  a printer dialog. well lets see if sth works now
[17:57] <to_mashek_> I don't know how to fix it
[17:57] <ragusource> hey guys, how can i set the default permissions for created files?
[17:57] <craigbass1976> gartral, AND... I can open it in GIMP...
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> !details | to_mashek_
[17:58] <to_mashek_> ok. I have gnome, installed Skype and microphone does not work
[17:58] <kostkon> intrader, or just copy a .desktop file from your system, edit it and place it in ~/.local/share/applications, then search for it in the dash
[17:58] <to_mashek_> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[17:59] <patb_> to_mashek_, go into SoundSettings/Input......see if you have both a microphone and an "aux in"
[17:59] <patb_> perhaps you're connected to "aux in"
[17:59] <kostkon> intrader, give:  locate *.desktop and pick one:  cp path_to_desktop_file ~/Desktop
[18:00] <HanneKing> !man
[18:01] <thanouris> if i give you my mb model can you tell me if i can boot from usb stick?
[18:01] <to_mashek_> patb_ I have one device in Input to choose and it is set to 100%, although activity bar does not show any sound capture
[18:02] <crankharder> if I'm using 12.04.3, why is apt-get suggesting I installed the package 'linux-lts-raring-tools' -- can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com for precise: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=raring-tools&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[18:02] <patb_> to_mashek_, has the microphone EVER worked?
[18:03] <to_mashek_> patb_ I don't know, as I just installed the system and after that Skype
[18:03] <MissJule> thanouris - you wanna boot ubuntu from usb stick on a macbook?
[18:03] <kostkon> !info linux-lts-raring-tools
[18:03] <kostkon> !info linux-lts-raring-tools precise
[18:03] <Pici> !msgthebot
[18:03] <minimec> crankharder: It's because 12.04.3 uses the backported kernel from raring... backported to your '12.04 lts'...
[18:03] <patb_> to_mashek_, is the microphone built into the laptop? if it is, then at least we know the hardware should work
[18:03] <thanouris> no  on a pc
[18:03] <irctc064> Hi! I have decided to install ubuntu 13.10 into my desktop pc, but I have a problem. I have an AGP ati card (3850 HD) and I can't do it work... Can somebody help me?
[18:04] <MissJule> ah ok - thought someone found a solution for my mac issue.
[18:04] <to_mashek_> patb_ it is built in
[18:04] <MissJule> on a pc it should work normally
[18:05] <nibbler> MissJule: mac issue like "media access layer" or like "macintosh"?
[18:05] <MissJule> macintosh
[18:05] <patb_> to_mashek_, some ACER laptops have an odd thing....you need to go into the sound control settings using the alsa-mixer program; and then turn DOWN the right channel all the way, and leave the left channel up full; that fixes my AS1410 laptop
[18:05] <MissJule> didnt succeed in booting from USB stick
[18:06] <to_mashek_> patb_ ok, I will check it now
[18:06] <to_mashek_> patb_ mine is Dell
[18:08] <donc3> Hi! I have decided to install ubuntu 13.10 into my desktop pc, but I have a problem. I have an AGP ati card (3850 HD) and I can't do it work... Can somebody help me?
[18:08] <nibbler> MissJule: then i'm clueless :) sorry
[18:14] <irGautvol> donc3 Maybe I have a similar problem... I have a Radeon 370 hahaha. Can you get to the console Ctrl Alt F1. Can you cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[18:14] <to_mashek_> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS my microphone does not work. Is here someone who has some ideas why?
[18:14] <to_mashek_> laptop mic
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> to_mashek_  open a terminal and type    alsamixer    if you see MM, go there and press m
[18:17] <dalkeehon> untill when will Precise Pangolin have support?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> 2017
[18:17] <dalkeehon> thanks
[18:17] <intrader> kostkon, I am gettting nowhere, I can start freemind from file view (via run command) but would like to make it lock to the launcher. I have tried 'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop' from the run menu, but it does not start (also there is no run button as described on web article)
[18:18] <to_mashek_> MonkeyDust what next?
[18:18] <dalkeehon> starting of 2017?
[18:18] <dalkeehon> or ending?
[18:19] <adamk> donc3: What's the problem?  That GPU should work out of the box.
[18:19] <Danato> Is Bumblebee recommended for Lenovo GT780?
[18:21] <intrader> kostkon, I am gettting nowhere, I can start freemind from file view (via run command) but would like to make it lock to the launcher. I have tried 'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop' from the run menu, but it does not start (also there is no run button as described on web article). The launcher seems to move but no icon appears
[18:22] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I represent file names in RTL languages correctly in cmd? (ubuntu 13.10)
[18:25] <Undaunted> I'm new here. I think I'm lost
[18:26] <kostkon> intrader, it's very simple thing to do, even manually. but try this app for example: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/create-launcher/
[18:26] <intrader> minimec, I am gettting nowhere, I have tried 'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop' from the run menu, an icon appears in the deskto, but no icon appears in launcher. The desktop icon is active and starts the application
[18:26] <mojtaba> Does bash support utf16 or utf8?
[18:27] <kostkon> a*
[18:27] <mojtaba> Is there any way to configure cmd to represent file names correctly (Non-English)
[18:27] <to_mashek_> MonkeyDust is it all?
[18:30] <thnee> I added the modules to /etc/pulse/default.pa and installed qpaeq but when I mode the sliders the sound doesnt change
[18:30] <thnee> how can I make equlizer work in linux
[18:30] <thnee> ?
[18:30] <minimec> intrader: I see... I gave you a link to create a launcher. I forgot that. So have a look at this. Basically you just create a something.desktop file i .local/share/applications https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[18:31] <maujhsn> SASL: added audacity: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[18:32] <[Gentoo]> maujhsn: what
[18:33] <maujhsn> Gentoo Excuse me?
[18:34] <maujhsn> Gentoo  Perhaps Your know by another alias?
[18:34] <[Gentoo]> no
[18:35] <minimec> intrader: There is also a GUI for the menu, that allows you to create launchers... --> alacarte 'Main Menu' if you use the unity dash
[18:36] <maujhsn> Gentoo I'm using xchat right now and i am trying to learn how to use it!
[18:37] <maujhsn> Gentoo Do you use xchat?
[18:37] <[Gentoo]> no
[18:38] <[Gentoo]> i have done though
[18:38] <maujhsn> SASL: added wikinews-feeds: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[18:38] <to_mashek_> ok, let's give it one more try. My microphone on Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS Dell laptop does not work. Any ideas?
[18:39] <kostkon> to_mashek_, how do you know that
[18:39] <kostkon> !details | to_mashek_
[18:39] <to_mashek_> it's first time I'm here because I couldn't fix something after looking for it on the net
[18:39] <[Gentoo]> to_mashek_: have you checked the volume controls,
[18:40] <to_mashek_> Someone here adviced me to check alsamixer
[18:40] <to_mashek_> I did it but I don't know what next
[18:40] <[Gentoo]> yeah check that
[18:40] <to_mashek_> when I check sound settings, input tab
[18:40] <[Gentoo]> check if the volume is at 00 or MM
[18:40] <kostkon> to_mashek_, have you tried to setup your input devices in the sound options?
[18:40] <maujhsn> to_mashek_  "gnome-volume-control" from the terminal!
[18:40] <to_mashek_> I see mic set to 100% but no activity in capture
[18:41] <kostkon> to_mashek_, are there more than 1 devices/ports etc to select from
[18:41] <to_mashek_> maujhsn I will check it
[18:41] <kostkon> to_mashek_, in the input tab
[18:41] <to_mashek_> kostkon only on
[18:41] <to_mashek_> only one
[18:42] <kostkon> to_mashek_, what happens when you try to record audio using the sound recorder for example
[18:42] <to_mashek_> maujhsn I don't have this gnome-volume-control
[18:42] <InsaneGene> my wireless connection (web browsing )on ubuntu is slower then my connection on win 7, why?
[18:42] <[Gentoo]> InsaneGene: who knows
[18:42] <to_mashek_> kostkon is it a console program?
[18:43] <Danato> how do I click ok on a box in the terminal? I know this sounds stupid but I was installing wine and a box showed up, with an <ok> at the bottom, I cant click it, ive tried pressing enter and spacebar
[18:43] <[Gentoo]> InsaneGene: less reponsive or less megabits per second
[18:43] <kostkon> to_mashek_, graphical program, comes with ubuntu
[18:43] <[Gentoo]> Danato: enter
[18:43] <zykotick9> Danato: TAB
[18:43] <maujhsn> to_mashek_ Then try "pavucontrol" from the terminal!
[18:43] <to_mashek_> kostkon ok I have it running
[18:43] <[Gentoo]> tab to select through or arrow keys sometimes
[18:43] <InsaneGene> [Gentoo], less responsive
[18:44] <Danato> zykotick9: thanks, TAB highlighted the ok :)
[18:44] <to_mashek_> kostkon I recorded something but after playing nothing is played, just silence
[18:44] <InsaneGene> [Gentoo], is there anything should I do to figure out?
[18:44] <kostkon> to_mashek_, ok
[18:44] <to_mashek_> kostkon this is how it works
[18:44] <wedr> i have started skype 4.2 on 13.10 and get CPU usage by pulseaudio of 25%
[18:44] <InsaneGene> [Gentoo], tool or something ?
[18:44] <to_mashek_> maujhsn what next?
[18:44] <wedr> this release (13.10) is worst since very long time
[18:45] <irGautvol> My problem is best descibed here ==>https://sites.google.com/site/pcproblemdoctor/linux   Please help
[18:46] <InsaneGene> can't find why my wireless connection (web browsing) on Ubuntu is slower then my connection on win 7
[18:46] <tgm4883> wedr, that has been said every release by someone
[18:46] <maujhsn> to_mashek_ Start reading "HELP" and you will figure it out! Or from another terminal type: "pavucontrol --help"!
[18:47] <to_mashek_> maujhsn ok, thanks I will check it
[18:47] <maujhsn> Is anybody an expert in here using xchat?
[18:48] <k1l> !details | maujhsn
[18:49] <maujhsn> In xchat i am trying to allow the client to notify me when I am being contacted!
[18:49] <la> coucou
[18:50] <kostkon> maujhsn, settings -> preferences -> alerts?
[18:50] <maujhsn> kostkon Ok!
[18:51] <k1l> maujhsn: do you use xchat or xchat-gnome? the -gnome one got reduced settings to meet the gnome "rules"
[18:52] <maujhsn> kil  xchat!
[18:53] <francesco2> Hello,
[18:53] <kostkon> !tab | maujhsn
[18:53] <kostkon> francesco2, hi
[18:54] <francesco2> I am trying to solve a problem with unbootin and I Downloaded syslinux and I should write the critical mbr binary my device,but "mbr.bin: No such file or directory"  where can I find it ?
[18:54] <francesco2> :P
[18:54] <k1l> maujhsn: yes, kostkon mentioned the right settings side already.
[18:54] <maujhsn> kostkon, Do I need to re-start xchat for the changes to go into affect?
[18:54] <to_mashek_> maujhsn there are no options in help of pavucontrol
[18:54] <kostkon> maujhsn, no
[18:55] <to_mashek_> maujhsn I turned on Skype and I noticed it appeared in 'recording' tab of pavucontrol
[18:55] <maujhsn> to_mashek_ Gotto #pulseaudio
[18:56] <to_mashek_> maujhsn what do you mean?
[18:56] <adamk> to_mashek_: Have you tried an app other than skype?
[18:57] <maujhsn> to_mashek_ They are the experts...you need to join that channel #pulseaudio
[18:57] <to_mashek_> adamk for example?
[18:57] <to_mashek_> adamk I checked sound recorder
[18:59] <adamk> to_mashek_: Any does it show up in pavucontrol? Does pavucontrol show any activity when using sound recorder and trying to record something?
[18:59] <irGautvol> francesco2 mbr.bin is normally the first sector 256 bytes. get it like: dd if=/dev/sda bs=256 count=1 of=mbr.bin
[19:00] <to_mashek_> adamk yes it shows the application which currently is supposed to record sound
[19:00] <to_mashek_> adamk it was like this for Skype too
[19:01] <to_mashek_> adamk but no activity, like the tab in which there should be voice recording showed is inactive
[19:01] <la> salut tous le monde
[19:01] <adamk> to_mashek_: Well, this sounds like a bug in alsa or pulseaudio.
[19:01] <to_mashek_> adamk so I should go to #pulseaudio, right?
[19:01] <unstable> I keep turning off my touchpad, but after reboots it turns back on.
[19:02] <unstable> I'm on the lastest ubuntu, with all stock. How can I fix this?
[19:02] <zodiac_> unstable, post your output of dmesg.
[19:02] <adamk> to_mashek_: That's where I'd start.
[19:03] <maujhsn> to_mashek_ The people in pulseaudio don't bite!
[19:03] <to_mashek_> adamk ok, thanks people
[19:04] <to_mashek_> maujhsn I hope someone will talk
[19:04] <to_mashek_> thanks and gnight
[19:04] <maujhsn> to_mashek You have to be patient and wait!
[19:08] <maujhsn> ubuntu-12.04 liveUSB only shuts down when I run the command "sudo shutdown  -h now". How can I correct this problem?
[19:10] <OxDeadC0de> hold the power button
[19:11] <maujhsn> No
[19:11] <minimec> unstable: You should be able to disable your device with one command in a terminal... For my mouse, it would be 'xinput set-int-prop "Logitech USB Gaming Mouse" "Device Enabled" 8 0'. '...8 1' enables it again. Find your device with 'xinput --list'. Once you have a working command, add it to 'gnome-session-properties' (for unity too)...
[19:11] <jpedroza2k> Is anyone using bumblebee with Nvidia card under 13.10 with any success?
[19:12] <BloodSkin> irc.juggaloirc.net
[19:12] <BloodSkin> dafuk
[19:12] <BloodSkin> y u no work command
[19:13] <prp-e> I'm looking for a twitter client that I can set a proxy on it.
[19:13] <prp-e> Is there any choice?
[19:13] <maujhsn> OxDeadC0de  Gotta be a better way!
[19:14] <vacho> where is known_hosts for root user in ubuntu?
[19:14] <hht> hello, i have downloaded app "
[19:14] <OxDeadC0de> vacho do you mean /etc/hosts ?
[19:14] <prp-e> I'm looking for a twitter client that I can set a proxy on it.
[19:15] <hht> app with .run and i cant install it on ubuntu by double click on it, is there any simple way using gui to install this app?
[19:15] <vacho> oxdead: no where ubuntu stores signature of ssh
[19:15] <OxDeadC0de> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:15] <OxDeadC0de> so for root, /root/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> vacho  ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:16] <vacho> nano ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:16] <vacho> it's empty
[19:16] <hht> how to check my admin password on ubuntu?
[19:16] <daftykins> vacho: if you used 'sudo -s' ~ is still your user's home, not root's
[19:16] <prp-e> I'm looking for a twitter client that I can set a proxy on it.
[19:17] <OxDeadC0de> vacho: sudo cat /root/.ssh/known_hosts
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> vacho  first establish a ssh connection, it asks for yes/no, then there will be something in known hosts
[19:17] <adamk> hht: No way for us to know based on the information you've provided.  The installer (assuming it is an installer) may not even have a GUI.
[19:17] <adamk> !patience | prp-e We heard you already :-)
[19:17] <hht> adamk this way works, but i can't install it because i dont have admin privilages http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239797
[19:17] <oal> This is so annoying... Anyone else having problems with CTRL+SHIFT+... shortcuts in 13.10?
[19:17] <deezed> hht: yes, why is that? you'd forgot it?
[19:18] <vacho> fml
[19:18] <vacho> I setup a new server so now my ssh key is not matching
[19:18] <hht> i don't know when im login on ubuntu it requires password i know it, but dont know what is going on with admin password
[19:18] <vacho> it says im trying to spoof
[19:18] <deezed> hht: are you the only user in this pc?
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> vacho sounds like you need to put the other half of the PSK on the server side
[19:19] <adamk> hht: If this user is the one you created when you installed Ubuntu, it should have admin privleges. You just need to use your users password.
[19:19] <hht> strange, look at that http://puu.sh/5cpdw.png
[19:19] <minimec> oal: Like <ctrl><shift>del in firefox? Works for me.
[19:19] <hht> i have changed my password and still cant login as admin
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> or just delete all the known hosts, ssh in, and get the new key
[19:19] <vacho> just deleted known_hosts file
[19:19] <vacho> fixed it
[19:19] <OxDeadC0de> xD
[19:19] <adamk> hht: 'su' wants the root password, not your user's password.
[19:19] <adamk> hht: sudo wants your user's password.
[19:19] <oal> minimec, not here. Neither does ctrl+shift+t or any other ctrl+shift shortcut system wide
[19:20] <hht> how to check what is root password i didnt set it when i was installing ubuntu
[19:20] <deezed> hht: adamk is right. Do you have access to root?
[19:20] <OxDeadC0de> hht there is NONE
[19:20] <maujhsn> kostkon, Where are log files save from the xchat session?
[19:20] <hht> i don't know what is root password
[19:20] <jpedroza2k> hht, that is where sudo comes in
[19:20] <kostkon> maujhsn, ~/.xchat
[19:20] <OxDeadC0de> hht unless you set it, there IS NO root password
[19:20] <adamk> hht: You shouldn't need the root password.
[19:20] <deezed> hht: maybe your user is not part of sudoers group
[19:20] <maujhsn> kostkon, Thanks!
[19:20] <adamk> Or, more correctly, you don' tneed the root password.
[19:21] <OxDeadC0de> the reason for no root password is it makes the root account un-loggable from the outside world, via telnet or ssh or whatever
[19:21] <adamk> hht: Are you sure this .run file even needs admin rights?
[19:21] <deezed> OxDeadC0de: yes, but if your user has access to sudoers you can login as root in terminal
[19:21] <minimec> oal: We had a different user here yesterday with CapsLock problems on 13.10. I guess it has to do with the keyboard layout you are using. Check the system settings and try to add a different one. Maybe there are multiple layout possibilities for your country/language.
[19:22] <maujhsn> kostkon, take care I apreciated the help!
[19:22] <deezed> adamk: I think it does, coz he wants to change its permissions
[19:22] <kostkon> maujhsn, :)
[19:22] <OxDeadC0de> deezed exactly. Adds another layer of protection around root though, because it'd be hard for some script kiddy to guess which username on your system has root access
[19:22] <oal> minimec, I use US (for programming) and Norwegian (for anything else) layout. Ctrl+shift works in neither of those.
[19:23] <adamk> hht: Then use sudo or gksudo.
[19:23] <deezed> OxDeadC0de: sure
[19:23] <adamk> hht: And hope you don't screw up your system.,
[19:23] <OxDeadC0de> why not? That's how people learn ;)
[19:23] <deezed> adamk: lol! but first he has to be sure he is on sudoers
[19:24] <adamk> deezed: If not, he'll find out soon enough.
[19:24] <deezed> adamk: sure
[19:25] <to_mashek_> adamk #pulseaudio remains silent
[19:25] <to_mashek_> adamk so many users there but noone replies
[19:26] <maxiaojun> seems like the dash search thing get really wild
[19:26] <yeyeman> can anyone else comment on youtube? Or have my trolling finally got me banned :(
[19:26] <Senjai`work> How do I remove activities from triggering when I mouse to the top left of the desktop?
[19:26] <chus> -list
[19:26] <Senjai`work> Ubuntu 13.10
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> yeyeman: Comment on youtube?
[19:26] <kernal> hello, i have probably fucked up my libstdc++, every time I try to apt-get install libstdc++ it prints Conflicts: libstdc++6-4.5-dbg-armhf-cross but 4.5.3-12ubuntu2cross1.61 is to be installed
[19:26] <kernal> server12.04lts
[19:27] <minimec> oal: Well I cannot really help you further... What you can do is to open a terminal, start 'xev' and put the mouse pointer in that window. Now press the keyboard keys. It should give you the keycode of the key. For me <ctrl> is 'keycode 37', <shift> is 'keycode 50'...
[19:27] <k1l> yeyeman: youtube changed the rules for commenting. but i dont think that suits into a ubuntu support channel :)
[19:27] <to_mashek_> Did anyone have a problem with microphone under ununtu 12.04 ?
[19:27] <to_mashek_> *ubuntu
[19:28] <oal> minimec, same here. What does it say when both ctrl and shift is pressed for you?
[19:28] <to_mashek_> I checked so many webpages with hints on how to repair not working microphone
[19:28] <to_mashek_> but nothing helped
[19:29] <minimec> oal: obviously the same...
[19:29] <oal> minimec, well now it doesn't register ctrl or shift independently at all, only when both are pressed. Then I get 40
[19:30] <oal> minimec, hmm, never mind. They still respond if the window is active. Hmm
[19:30] <minimec> oal: Ok. There is the source of the problem. I don't get any 'combined' keycodes
[19:31] <oal> minimec, I have a mechanical keyboard, maybe that's the problem.
[19:33] <supercom32> When I execute something like: knife winrm 'platform:windows' 'dir' -x userName -P password -a ipaddress, I keep getting back  "FATAL: 1 node found, but does not have the required attribute <ipaddress>". Any ideas why? I tried without specifying an attribute and it's the same error ( more or less)
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> to_mashek_: Was the microphone working with some other installation?
[19:34] <to_mashek_> jhutchins_wk this os was the only one I installed so far
[19:34] <minimec> oal: Ok. That seems to be a known bug... http://askubuntu.com/questions/356357/how-to-use-altshift-combo-to-switch-keyboard-layout-in-13-10
[19:34] <vacho> getting a 500 eror on my ubuntu web server, where do I start debugging?
[19:34] <to_mashek_> jhutchins_wk 32 bit version
[19:35] <jhutchins_wk> to_mashek_: So how do we rule out the mic being broken?
[19:35] <minimec> oal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1218322
[19:36] <JEEBsv> hi, anyone has any idea how I can now make the right windows key to act as the 3rd level selector?
[19:36] <oal> minimec, ah, well I hope it's fixed soon :)
[19:36] <JEEBsv> since the old keyboard-related settings screen doesn't seem to be around any more
[19:37] <to_mashek_> jhutchins_wk do you think it is broken? How can I check it, hmmm?
[19:37] <minimec> oal: Interesting, that only some people are affected. My 13.10 laptop works ok. Also a 13.10 live disk I used on my desktop seemed to work ok. At least I did not realize any bug.
[19:37] <__raven_> hi
[19:38] <__raven_> nvidia 304 + ubuntu 13.10: where to save the nvidia config file?
[19:38] <BillyZane> hi, i was updating to 13.10, i went to sleep. the update window seemed to have crashed or something, so i reset my computer thinking it got pretty far. now my screen resolution is stuck at 640x480
[19:38] <oal> minimec, thanks for looking this up and for trying to help me. I'll just have to wait and see :)
[19:39] <minimec> oal: no problem
[19:40] <troulouliou_dev> hi firefox freeze each time i downbload a page , does anybody face this issue too ?
[19:40] <niko> hi
[19:40] <daftykins> troulouliou_dev: try a profile reset, or check your enabled plugins
[19:41] <jemendja> hello
[19:41] <troulouliou_dev> daftykins, disable all plugin ; will try profile reset but do i loose all my stored pasword ?
[19:41] <to_mashek_> how can I fix audio codecs in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:42] <daftykins> troulouliou_dev: just try creating a clean profile first then
[19:42] <to_mashek_> I think this is the issue for my microphone not working
[19:42] <Wheez[BYU]> Are you sure it's not hardware?
[19:42] <troulouliou_dev> daftykins, ok thanks
[19:42] <minimec> to_mashek_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:43] <BillyZane> i don't think i have nvidia drivers installed, how do i check?
[19:43] <__raven_> nvidia 304 + ubuntu 13.10: where to save the nvidia config file?
[19:44] <jemendja> BillyZane: dpkg --get-selections | grep nv
[19:44] <daftykins> __raven_: you installed manually from the nvidia website?
[19:45] <BillyZane> it appears i have nvidia 304 installed
[19:45] <gartral> __raven_: hi
[19:45] <__raven_> daftykins: no nvidia-current
[19:45] <daftykins> __raven_: so you're manually running nvidia-xconfig for some reason?
[19:46] <BillyZane> hmmm
[19:46] <BillyZane> it seems dpkg was interrupted
[19:46] <__raven_> of course i have two monitors i need to configure every startup
[19:46] <daftykins> __raven_: ok, what you really want to be doing is running "gksudo nvidia-settings"
[19:47] <to_mashek_> minimec should I reboot afterwards?
[19:47] <Guest46212> i
[19:47] <__raven_> ok ill try that tnx
[19:47] <minimec> to_mashek_: No. It installs some missing codecs and other stuff.
[19:47] <victor123> haha
[19:48] <victor123>  I want to join ubuntu
[19:48] <victor123> anyone can help my?
[19:48] <minimec> __raven_: use 'sudo nvidia-settings' to make your changes permanent. The 'settings' are then still saved in a 'normal' xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[19:48] <to_mashek_> minimec so now when I make a skype test call voice recording should work?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> victor123, "join ubuntu" be more specific.
[19:49] <JEEBsv> ah, it seems to have been "Alternative characters key" in keyboard shortcuts
[19:49] <JEEBsv> at least I'm getting a pipe now
[19:49] <JEEBsv> |
[19:49] <minimec> to_mashek_: Well.. test it...
[19:49] <to_mashek_> minimec still it does not work
[19:49] <victor123> I mean join develoment
[19:50] <to_mashek_> minimec I played with gstreamer-properties
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> !join
[19:50] <kostkon> victor123, http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[19:50] <to_mashek_> minimec but it also did not change anything
[19:51] <to_mashek_> and people in #pulseaudio don't reply
[19:51] <minimec> to_mashek_: I cannot really help you with you skype/mic problem, but on your question "how can I fix audio codecs in ubuntu 12.04", my solution seems adequate...
[19:52] <job1> help
[19:52] <victor123> THANKS
[19:52] <victor123> THANKS
[19:52] <to_mashek_> minimec neither Skype nor sound recorder works
[19:55] <minimec> to_mashek_: Indeed, there seems to be a problem with skype in 13.10... There are different blog posts available on that subject. Among others... http://itbubbles.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/xubuntu-13-10-sound-issues-skype-distorted-microphone-crackling-sound-indicator-disabled/
[19:56] <minimec> to_mashek_: https://www.google.ch/search?hl=de&source=hp&biw=1051&bih=805&q=sudo%20nvidia-settings&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=#hl=de&q=skype+13.10+mic
[19:56] <minimec> to_mashek_: One solution might be to use 'alsa'... http://itsfoss.com/how-to-solve-microphone-not-working-in-skype-quick-tip/
[19:57] <to_mashek_> minimec, thanks I will check it now
[19:57] <kostkon> to_mashek_, don't remove pulse
[19:58] <kostkon> to_mashek_, try checking your hardware/alsa volume levels directly using alsamixer. in a terminal give:  alsamixer
[19:58] <to_mashek_> kostkon what next?
[19:58] <to_mashek_> kostkon someone said I should press m
[19:59] <to_mashek_> kostkon and nothing more
[19:59] <deezed> to_mashek_: m is to mute or unmute
[19:59] <kostkon> to_mashek_, make sure that everything is not muted and at 100%
[20:00] <to_mashek_> kostkon Master and PCM are on 100%. Third, S/PDIF, is on but there is no bar, so I think it is 0%
[20:00] <kostkon> to_mashek_, you can press F5 to view all the available volume levels
[20:01] <kostkon> to_mashek_, ok press F4 to view only ones about capture
[20:01] <kostkon> the*
[20:02] <kostkon> to_mashek_, also, from its manual: "SPACE  enables  recording  for  the current channel. If any other channels have recording enabled, they will have their recording function disabled first. This only works for valid input channels, of course."
[20:02] <kostkon> to_mashek_, open a new tab in the terminal, give:  man alsamixer
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> to_mashek_: spdif is Digital Optical Out.
[20:04] <to_mashek_> kostkon ok, MIC was on 0%
[20:05] <to_mashek_> so I increased it to 100%
[20:05] <kostkon> to_mashek_, nice catch
[20:05] <to_mashek_> kostkon but I think still sound recorder does not record
[20:06] <intrader> minimec, I am getting nowhere, I have tried 'gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop' from the run menu, an icon appears in the desktop but no icon appears in launcher. The desktop icon is active and starts the application
[20:08] <azly> Hey!
[20:08] <azly> anyone around? I'm looking for some help...
[20:09] <minimec> intrader: again.... create a new launcher. Use the GUI if you want... "main menu" in unity dash. If you have no 'main menu', --> 'sudo apt-get install alacarte'.
[20:10] <kostkon> to_mashek_, what laptop model?
[20:10] <to_mashek_> dell vostro 2520
[20:11] <azly> Maybe someone here knows if there's a way to set up l2tp vpn without having internet access?
[20:11]  * Anuska ubuntu is the best
[20:13] <kostkon> to_mashek_, what about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259284&p=8119510#post8119510  and this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259284&p=7912027#post7912027
[20:13] <jhutchins_wk> azly: Don't know what 12tp is.  You can certainly configure vpn without an internet connection, possibly for local LAN use.
[20:14] <azly> jhutchins_wk: l2tp is some protocol of vpn. I need it to connect to my ISP
[20:14] <azly> I found out how to set it up on ubuntu, but to do that I need to download a package with apt-get
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> azly: They would probably be the ones to ask.
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> !apt-offline
[20:15] <azly> huh, what is that?
[20:15] <azly> apt-offline sounds like what i n eed
[20:15] <jhutchins_wk> azly: Possibly nothing to do with ubuntu, nevermind.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> !offline
[20:16] <azly> thanks ubottu !
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> azly: It is available, it's for downloading package sets on a different ubuntu that does have netowrk.
[20:16] <slaxer> quick grep question, i'm trying to grep the result of a grep so the result is "4:The Cow Goes Moo" how can I just grab the 4 with a regular expression?
[20:16] <mmazing> im trying to install an android emulator (genymotion), it gave me a .bin file and said to use virtualbox with it, but i'm not having any luck, anyone have any ideas?
[20:16] <hydruid> slaxer: awk?
[20:16] <azly> thanks jhutchins_wk
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> slaxer: awk -F:
[20:17] <slaxer> hydruid: this is the command I put in. grep -n 'The Cow Goes Moo' test.txt
[20:17] <kostkon> mmazing, there are detailed instructions on webupd8
[20:17] <aarobc_wrk> Anyone know why this is giving an error "Syntax error: "(" unexpected:
[20:17] <aarobc_wrk> info=( $(wmctrl -d | awk '{print $4, $6}') )
[20:17] <kostkon> mmazing, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/genymotion-fast-easy-to-use-android-x86.html
[20:17] <gimmic> so.. why does ubuntu need to reboot so often for updates?
[20:17] <gimmic> I can't seem to find an actual reason listed
[20:18] <gimmic> fedora / centos / etc don't need to reboot
[20:18] <mmazing> kostkon: thx found it
[20:18] <hydruid> slaxer: the command means nothing without seeing what test.txt is
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> aarobc_wrk: You might try #bash
[20:18] <gimmic> is there anywhere I can check what a pending reboot requirement is?
[20:18] <hydruid> gimmic: what version are you running? Mine doesn't seem to want to reboot super often
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> gimmic  for kernel upgrades only
[20:18] <jhutchins_wk> gimmic: An updated kernel.
[20:18] <gimmic> well, a kernel makes sense
[20:19] <gimmic> I've got to stop letting the gui tool do updates
[20:19] <gimmic> I can't get rid of the reboot requirement window
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> good
[20:19] <nosmelc> I booted 13.10 Desktop 64-bit on a Core 2 Duo 6GB machine.  I get a message from my monitor saying "Input Not Supported." Any ideas?
[20:19] <slaxer> hydruid: I understand ok so the file just have 5 lines in it, each line is just garage text, but in the fourth line I am trying to get the line number based on a search
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> that 'good' refers to stopping the gui
[20:20] <slaxer> hydruid: So I did a search for "grep -n 'replacement-line' test.txt"
[20:20] <gimmic> right, usually I'm pretty on top of it with apt, but the software update notification pops up sometimes
[20:20] <hydruid> slaxer: right and it gave the 4|garbage....
[20:20] <slaxer> hydruid: and the result is : "4:The Cow Goes Moo"
[20:20] <hydruid> slaxer: and you just want to show the 4 right?
[20:20] <slaxer> hydruid: yep! :)
[20:20] <hydruid> slaxer: my answer is the same....awk it
[20:20] <gimmic> pass the grep result to awk?
[20:20] <slaxer> hydruid: so my goal is to just get the line number. :)
[20:21] <to_mashek_> kostkon nothing
[20:21] <hydruid> slaxer: my goal is get you to use awk
[20:21] <gimmic> is there always a semicolon after the number, slaxer?
[20:21] <slaxer> hydruid: ok i'll give it a shot thanks. :)
[20:21] <kostkon> to_mashek_, how are you testing it
[20:21] <jhutchins_wk> nosmelc: The system has selected an output format that your monitor does not understand.  You might try booting into rescue (text) mode.
[20:22] <to_mashek_> kostkon trying to record anything with sound recorder
[20:22] <nosmelc> jhutchins_wk: I'm installing 13.10.  Sorry I didn't make that clear in my question
[20:22] <gimmic> awk -F: {'print $1'}
[20:22] <gimmic> slaxer: awk -F: {'print $1'}
[20:22] <aarobc_wrk> jhutchins_wk: okay I'll try that, much thanks
[20:22] <jhutchins_wk> nosmelc: You might want to NOT install 13.10.
[20:22] <kostkon> to_mashek_, try also in skype for example, just to be sure
[20:23] <nosmelc> jhutchins_wk: is there something wrong with it?
[20:23] <aarobc_wrk> join #bash
[20:23] <hydruid> gimmic: it's no fun to give him the exact answer! lol
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> nosmelc: So the error message is happening when the installer is running?
[20:23] <jhutchins_wk> nosmelc: Lots of problems with video (and other fun things).
[20:23] <nosmelc> jhutchins_wk: yes.  After it loads from the disk for a bit
[20:23] <to_mashek_> kostkon skype does not work either
[20:24] <jhutchins_wk> nosmelc: You might be able to get a text mode install, I haven't tried the 13.10 installer images yet.
[20:24] <slaxer> gimmic: Thanks Gimmic :)
[20:24] <to_mashek_> kostkon minimec I tried this too http://itsfoss.com/how-to-solve-microphone-not-working-in-skype-quick-tip/
[20:24] <adamk> You could try disabling KMS by passing 'nomodeset' to the kernel from the boot loader.  What video card do you have?
[20:24] <adamk> nosmelc: ^^
[20:24] <kostkon> to_mashek_, hmm, try again every possible configuration/combination in alsamixer and in sound options
[20:25] <nosmelc> adamk: it's an old PCI card.  Voodoo3 3000
[20:25] <adamk> nosmelc: Yikes.
[20:25] <xcalibur1978> hi there, i tried to create a VPN server using this guide => https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer | After folowing the guide I'm able to login to the pptpd server using my phone (android). However I'm not abble to connect to internet. Does anyone have any suggestions, what has gone wrong?
[20:25] <adamk> nosmelc: That card was really well supported at one time, but not so much these days...  Using 'nomodeset' isn't going to make a difference as KMS isn't supported on it in the first place.
[20:25] <kostkon> to_mashek_, skype does not use gstreamer so the tip is all wrong
[20:26] <lovelyrandomness> hey, can somebodey help me with my boot/grub trouble on my vaio pro 13? http://askubuntu.com/questions/372970/13-10-fde-doesnt-boot-on-vaio-pro-13
[20:26] <to_mashek_> kostkon to be sure what should I have in gstreamet to leave it in proper configuration?
[20:27] <adamk> nosmelc: When you get that message on the monitor, can you drop to a console by hitting control+alt+f1/f2 ?
[20:27] <kostkon> to_mashek_, set it to autodetect, as always
[20:27] <to_mashek_> kostkon as plug-in I have pulseaudio and as device default
[20:27] <nosmelc> adamk: I'll try that.  Thanks
[20:27] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: why not disable eufi?
[20:27] <hydruid> *uefi
[20:27] <kostkon> to_mashek_, ok then, don't change it
[20:27] <lovelyrandomness> because it's cleaner and people made it work
[20:28] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: how is it cleaner?
[20:28] <lovelyrandomness> you think it would work, disable uefi, re-install and boot?
[20:28] <kostkon> to_mashek_, try in sound recorder again now, because it is actually gstreamer based ;)
[20:28] <gnups> I'm facing the following issue: I can't use the scanner of my multifunctional printer scanner device. 12.04 x64 does not find the scanner. The printer works proper. Does anybody know where I could start to troubleshot that problem? I read that it is necessary in 12.04 to introduce the device with its usb device id in 40-libsane.rules but that did not work...
[20:29] <kostkon> to_mashek_, restart it first
[20:29] <reisio> gnups: what make/model?
[20:29] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: legacy boot will probably work...have you looked at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[20:29] <gnups> reisio: sorry its a canon pixma mg5150
[20:29] <to_mashek_> so, sound recorder does not record
[20:29] <lovelyrandomness> no https://spicious.com/sony-vaio-pro-11-with-ubuntu.html
[20:29] <to_mashek_> kostkon sound recorder still does not work
[20:30] <to_mashek_> kostkon I will try this thing now http://itbubbles.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/xubuntu-13-10-sound-issues-skype-distorted-microphone-crackling-sound-indicator-disabled/
[20:30] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: Read up on UEFI Booting or enable legacy boot and re-install.....the choice is yours!
[20:30] <kostkon> to_mashek_, as i said, keep trying. try every possible configuration in in alsamixer and sound options
[20:30] <lovelyrandomness> ok, thanks
[20:30] <to_mashek_> kostkon but what is the purpose of doing that in alsamixer
[20:30] <to_mashek_> kostkon how does it actually work?
[20:31] <duckfish> hi, I've just installed ubuntu. I recognized that I have a httpd (apache) running (port 80). Have I caused that or is that there by default when you install ubuntu?
[20:31] <gnups> reisio: I also tried using the driver from canon, didn't work either...
[20:31] <kostkon> to_mashek_, what do you mean?
[20:31] <to_mashek_> kostkon shouldn't it just capture sound when that option is turned on?
[20:31] <reisio> duckfish: ubuntu... desktop?
[20:31] <TomAstro> Hi folks, I have hopefully have a quick question here.  In 12.04r and 13.04 I had access to digital surround sound of 5.1 and up and HDMI in Pavucontrol, what happened to it in 13.10 which I installed fresh?
[20:31] <jhutchins_wk> to_mashek_: Sometimes things are not correctly or clearly labeled in alsamixer, and sometimes it's not obvious how to get a certain thing to work, so keep trying stuff and looking on the web.
[20:31] <hydruid> duckfish: Apache is not a default package.....you must have installed it
[20:32] <_ikke_> Can anyone tell me how rsnapshot can execute rsync on the remote that can connect back to the backup server again? (The first part is clear, the second not)
[20:32] <jhutchins_wk> to_mashek_: Sometimes the driver's options do not match your implementation of the chipset, so the mixer options aren't correct.
[20:32] <kostkon> to_mashek_, in theory yes, but sometimes the driver or the hardware has some quirks and you need to find a configuration that works
[20:33] <hydruid> _ikke_: how is the remote node and the backup server connected?
[20:33] <duckfish> thansk hydruid
[20:33] <hydruid> duckfish: sudo apt-get remove apache2 should remove it
[20:33] <duckfish> I have no idea where I got it from. lol
[20:33] <hydruid> duckfish: did you by chance install LAMP?
[20:33] <duckfish> no
[20:33] <_ikke_> hydruid: ssh?
[20:33] <hydruid> duckfish: desktop version of the OS?
[20:34] <duckfish> I'm running precise
[20:34] <_ikke_> hydruid: the backup server uses ssh to connect to the node
[20:34] <hydruid> _ikke_: so you want to rsync the files over ssh?
[20:34] <_ikke_> hydruid: Well, I'm trying to understand an existing (working) system
[20:35] <hydruid> _ikke_: you sure the remote node doesn't have some sort of mounted filesystem from the backup server?
[20:35] <_ikke_> hydruid: I'm fairly certain
[20:36] <_ikke_> 0 0 * * *     rsnapshot       sudo /usr/bin/rsnapshot -c /etc/rsnapshot/combined.rsnapshot.conf sync #this is the cron that does the sync
[20:36] <Kamuela> I currently have an Ubuntu derivative installed, ElementaryOS. I'd like to make a clean switch back to 13.10. My home folder is currently not a separate partition, only my swap is. Is there a way to non-destructively make my home folder a partition so that I may sync seamlessly with a fresh install of 13.10?
[20:37] <hydruid> _ikke_: rsnapshot does reference using SSH to backup remote filesystems
[20:38] <to_mashek_> jhutchinson_wk if I edit alsa-base.conf file should I restart anything, like alsa?
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, There is a wiki for ubuntu and moving home to a different partition, however I thin k you best bet is backing up home and just installing 13.10.
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> your*
[20:38] <hydruid> _ikke_: is rsnapshot installed on the server?
[20:38] <TomAstro>   Can someone PM me if they can help with this? In 12.04r and 13.04 I had access to digital surround sound of 5.1 and up and HDMI in Pavucontrol, what happened to it in 13.10 which I installed fresh?
[20:38] <hydruid> _ikke_: what I mean is that cron and rsnapshot on the backup server?
[20:39] <_ikke_> hydruid: yes
[20:39] <hydruid> _ikke_: what is your question then? basically the backup server uses SSH to access the remote node and then rsync to sync the files back to the server
[20:39] <hydruid> _ikke_: which is just rsync over ssh
[20:39] <_ikke_> hydruid: Yes, but can rsync use the same tunnel back?
[20:40] <hydruid> _ikke_: please be more specific
[20:40] <hydruid> _ikke_: the backup server is the node running rsync not the remote device
[20:40] <lovelyrandomness> i'm almost done, this is the fix, tried it earlier too: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360285/13-10-on-vaio-pro-with-uefi but i get "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow." as error
[20:40] <minimec> Kamuela: First of all: You will NOT be able to use the 'Gala' Window manager of Elementary OS in 13.10. If you are aware of that, I would backup/delete the '.gnome' and '.gnome2' folder. That should do.
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, here is the wiki use at your own risk I would back up home as well to be safe. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:41] <lovelyrandomness> if i could do "sudo update-grub" it should boot, damn, i'm so close
[20:41] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee, minimec: Thanks. I think that makes sense, I will copy my home folder over to my Windows partition, and then copy it back after the install.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, I would not copy it to a ntfs.
[20:41] <_ikke_> hydruid: What is confusing me that there is an rsync wrapper installed on the remote node, and in the rsnapshot config, that wrapper is configured to be executed
[20:42] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: What issues may I encounter? I'm not too worried about system preferences. I'm more worried about large amounts of media.
[20:42] <Myrtti> hm
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, media is okay, the .config and local I would not due to permissions, however I may be wrong here.
[20:43] <_ikke_> hydruid: Or is that what rsync uses itself to execute on the remote host?
[20:43] <OerHeks> wilee-nilee, true, config files will be plain files without the permissions
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> OerHeks, Thanks for confirming that.
[20:44] <hydruid> _ikke_: could be used for a lot of things, a wrapper can be considered a helper script. it might also just be there to execute the process with sudo
[20:44] <_ikke_> hydruid: It's the latter
[20:44] <OerHeks> one way to do this, is to tar the folder
[20:44] <_ikke_> hydruid: But man rsync clears it up for me
[20:44] <hydruid> _ikke_: well there you go.....
[20:44] <minimec> Kamuela: You could put this hidden '.folders' in a tar or zip file. Like that, they would keep permissions.
[20:44] <lovelyrandomness> now i need to mount the /boot partition, as detailed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[20:44] <_ikke_> --rsync-path is the command rsync uses itself
[20:44] <_ikke_> hydruid: Thanks for your help
[20:45] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: now I need to take a drink http://ubuntu-guides.com/driink-water
[20:45] <Kamuela> minimec, wilee-nilee: Why you both so leet? Damn
[20:45] <hydruid> _ikke_: happy to clarify
[20:45] <lovelyrandomness> go for it, hydruid :)
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, No leet here I have metioned file names.
[20:45] <TomAstro> Is there a ALSA/Pulse expert in the house??
[20:47] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: Well, I think you helped me realize that I don't care much about anything except the media, so my goals got a lot more practical.
[20:47] <slaxer> One more question folks, for a sed delimiter, is it possible to place a variable in front of it? for example: "sed -i '$variable s/.*/cheese1/' test.txt"
[20:47] <fanshawe2> Hello everyone. I'm trying to transfer contacts from a phone to my laptop via bluetooth.
[20:47] <Kamuela> That being said, I think I'd like to make the typical / /boot /home /swap directories, what's the usual idea behind that?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, The media is usually the issue, so yeah save it in shared partition if you can writing to a off windows OS has its own issues.
[20:48] <fanshawe2> Where do files transferred via buetooth appear in Ubuntu? There's nothing in my home folder nor under /home/public
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, Rarely is a boot partition used, except with the uefi gpt partitioning we are seeing with W8 dual boots.
[20:49] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: I have windows 8, but I think I'm MBR and i think i just make the ubuntu partition have grub and make it active from Windows
[20:50] <hydruid> fanshawe2: did you look in /home/user/downloads
[20:50] <minimec> Kamuela: '/' and '/home' make sense, as you can reinstall the system without touching the user files. I do not create a swap partition anymore. If you want to hibernate, create a swap file. Same result, but more flexibility. I have even come so far to use 'swap in ram' with 'zram'.
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, using easybcd?
[20:50] <lovelyrandomness> got a question, how do i mount the ubuntu partition if i have it encrypted with LVM? need it to update grub: http://askubuntu.com/questions/207663/cannot-update-grub-with-paramters-on-live-usb
[20:51] <Kamuela> minimec: The reason I feel like swap is necessary is because I have 4GB of ram and I've had periods where opening too many browser windows has caused my system to become CRAZY unresponsive
[20:51] <hydruid> lovelyrandomness: do you actually try to find the answer to anything or just post it here?
[20:51] <lovelyrandomness> i do
[20:52] <lovelyrandomness> and thanks, yes i'm such a bitch
[20:52] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: no, there's a command line tool in windows that i can't remember the name of right now, but it comes with windows by default. and you just go in it, you use commands like select, disk 2, active, etc
[20:52] <minimec> Kamuela: I agree that 'swap' can be usefull. I would just crete a swapfile, instead of a swap partition. That's all... Some info... http://serverfault.com/questions/25653/swap-partition-vs-file-for-performance
[20:53] <lucido> how can I list available outputs from the console? I tried xrandr -display :0 -q but it doesn't list the outputs
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, I have seen people use that method, sounds like you know whats up, enjoy. ;)
[20:54] <adamk> lucido: Is X running?
[20:54] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: Haha, friend of mine had me triple boot with OSX that's why, and he was doing the GPT thing. That took forever to rid my disk of that disease
[20:54] <lucido> adam_, yes
[20:55] <adamk> lucido: How about if you specify the DISPLAY variable?  DISPLAY=:0 xrandr ?
[20:55] <lucido> adam_, chris@chris-desktop:/etc/X11$ xrandr -display :0  -q --verbose
[20:55] <lucido> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[20:55] <lucido> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 400, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[20:55] <lucido> default connected primary 1024x768+0+0 (0x52) normal (normal) 0mm x 0mm
[20:55] <Kamuela> minimec: awesome!
[20:56] <Kamuela> minimec: so if I'll just be making / and /home, how much space do you think i should devote to / ?
[20:56] <lucido> adam_, is the output name "default"?
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> Kamuela, I have W8 pro but it was a student purchase, 25$ hehe on a msdos/ mbr and 3 linux on a 256 gig ssd runs nicely, W8.1 now
[20:56] <lucido> all I get is a mouse pointer and a black screen
[20:56] <gigatropolis> keyboard is all wrong after lockup. The AT symbol is double quote and double quote is asterick, etc. how to get the keyboard back to normal on 13.10
[20:57] <adamk> lucido: First, I'm adamk, not adam_.  Second, no, that's not the output name.  Just run 'DISPLAY=:0 xrandr'
[20:57] <adam_> lucido: what?
[20:57] <Kamuela> wilee-nilee: cool, I wish I bought it when it was $30 in January but I was so broke hahaha. I'm on the VL "trial" :P
[20:57] <adamk> lucido: Or at least it shouldn't be the output name.  It's probably something like DVI-0, VGA-0, etc.
[20:58] <lucido> adamk, same output with DISPLAY=:0 xrandr
[20:58] <lucido> adam_, nothing, sorry
[20:58] <adamk> lucido: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[21:00] <minimec> Kamuela: somehow depends on '/var' and '/tmp'. I have a 240GB SSD here with 40GB '/', rest '/home'. That is far enough for '/'. You could even go with 20GB for '/'.
[21:00] <minimec> Kamuela: If you host some web services or work with large files in /tmp, take that into consideration...
[21:01] <Kamuela> minimec: alright, i only have about 100GB devoted to linux at the end of my disk... i kinda want to dynamically shrink the NTFS and push it up a bit honestly
[21:01] <Kamuela> minimec: i do rails development, you think that's a consideration? i haven't yet tended to host anything other than the webrick defaults
[21:02] <gigatropolis> Need help. My keyboard is giving wrong characters as if it has a different layout. Going to keyboard setup and it shows English )US~ which is correct, but the keys are all wrong. How to fix this?
[21:03] <minimec> Kamuela: Never wirked with rails, so I cannot tell you, but if it is a development test machine, I guess You will not store GB's of data in /var...
[21:03] <fanshawe2> That's alright, I've found out a way to transfer contacts that doesn't require bluetooth. Thank you anyway for responding, #ubuntu. G'night.
[21:06] <lucido> adamk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384356/
[21:07] <Kamuela> minimec: can i just do a sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M ?
[21:07] <nanna> ciao
[21:07] <adamk> lucido: You are using the vesa Xorg driver.  1024x768 is expected, and the only output supported is probably named 'default'.
[21:07] <nanna> !list
[21:08] <adamk> lucido: You have the nvidia driver installed, but the wrong one. Read lines 167 through 172 in your Xorg log file.
[21:09] <minimec> Kamuela: That seems to be a nice tutorial. http://www.garron.me/en/bits/create-add-swap-file-ubuntu.html
[21:09] <gc> I'm an app developer. I noticed my app doesn't show its menubar in ubuntu saucy. What should I do?
[21:09] <lucido> adamk, how is that possible, I have installed nvidia-331 from the xorg-ledgers ppa
[21:10] <adamk> lucido: Again, check what the log file says... You need the legacy driver.
[21:10] <lucido> ok
[21:10] <to_mashek> adamk, jhutchins_wk, minimec, kostkon I plugged in external microphone from a headset
[21:10] <to_mashek> adamk, jhutchins_wk, minimec, kostkon it works
[21:11] <to_mashek> adamk, jhutchins_wk, minimec, kostkon both in Skype and sound recorder
[21:11] <to_mashek> adamk, jhutchins_wk, minimec, kostkon does it mean internal microphone is broken?
[21:11] <ljunggren> hey
[21:12] <ljunggren> hey, i get tearing in videos with opensource drivers.. sync to vblank is enabled in compiz. what should i do
[21:14] <lucido> adamk, I see, do you know if there is a ppa with a port of other nvidia driver version than 173 (which segfaults x) or 304 (which doesn't work with  my custom xorg.conf)?
[21:14] <adamk> lucido: No idea, I avoid nvidia.
[21:14] <minimec> to_mashek: ... means that your internal mic is not recognized correctly by alsa. the workaround that kostkon gave you before might work. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259284&p=8274461#post8274461
[21:14] <lucido> what else is there than nvidia?
[21:15] <francesco2> guys hello, do you why after million of try I have initramfs ubuntu? when I try to boot it from the usb?
[21:15] <bekks> lucido: xswat :)
[21:16] <lucido> bekks, xswat is not yet published for 13.10, the ppa I mean, what is xswat?
[21:17] <ljunggren> !xswat
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> francesco2, Can you clarify that in in understandable way.
[21:17] <ljunggren> hm
[21:18] <ph8> hey all
[21:18] <ljunggren> francesco2, have you checked BIOS settings
[21:18] <bekks> lucido: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[21:20] <lucido> bekks, I have that, those are the new nvidia drivers, but I'm running legacy hardware (gf7200 and an old chinese lcd tv)
[21:20] <francesco2> I am trying to boot linux mint from usb but after many tries (before I was updating syslinux the netbook was even don't boot it) but when I boot it instead of lunching the live version give me a prompt with initramfs
[21:20] <cosmicfires> I can't find info about why the weather update can no longer get data?
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> !mint | francesco2
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> francesco2, Try ubuntu we can support you there, mint is just a derivative, less support in general.
[21:22] <andry> hm cool, new teamviewer 9 beta for ubuntu runs nice as multiarch
[21:22] <bekks> lucido: then !mint | francesco2
[21:22] <bekks> Sorry.
[21:22] <francesco2> but there it write me : busybox V1.20 (ubuntu 1:1.20.0-ubuntu) built-in shell (ash) :S
[21:22] <TomAstro> anything different from v.8 Andry?
[21:23] <bekks> lucido: well, then fix your xorg.conf
[21:23] <andry> the design :P, system tray now also works on xubuntu .. but i am still testing
[21:23] <francesco2> anyway I am going to try to install ubuntu as well
[21:23] <lucido> bekks, it's fine it worked with 173 but it started segfaulting recently: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384443/
[21:24] <lucido> bekks, I mean my xorg.conf is good
[21:24] <TomAstro> Ok.  I'll check it out later.
[21:24] <bekks> lucido: then why dont you use 173 anymore?
[21:24] <newbie|2> someone said
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> francesco2, You can install ubuntu in 13.04 and above the cinnamon desktop is in the repos.
[21:24] <newbie|2> ubuntu dont respect the privacy of user what do you say
[21:24] <lucido> bekks, as of today it segfaults
[21:24] <TomAstro> Now someone needs to fix Skype for Linux.  Ohhhh  That won't happen since MS has it now...
[21:24] <lucido> bekks, started after some upgrades I made
[21:25] <auronandace> newbie|2: this is a support channel, do you have a support question?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> newbie|2, Can be turned off and that is a subjective opinion that is inaccurate.
[21:25] <newbie|2> i need some support
[21:25] <newbie|2> auronandace:
[21:25] <newbie|2> in order to make sure i am safe
[21:25] <newbie|2> https://fixubuntu.com/
[21:25] <lucido> bekks, sorry wrong pastebin, this is it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384455/
[21:25] <TomAstro> I do here but do't want to keep repeating it,  But I am looking for help with ALSA/Pulse.
[21:26] <newbie|2> what do you think about this
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> !enter | newbie|2
[21:26] <newbie|2> okey sorry
[21:27] <kostkon> newbie|2, wrong channel. this is a support channel and we are all regular users. why are you asking about our opiniion
[21:27] <newbie|2> hmm i dont know i suppose there are some developers here
[21:28] <lucido> Can you tell me why X segfaults with nvidia 173 drivers on my system? Xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384455/
[21:29] <kostkon> newbie|2, anyway, if you want to discuss about it, the right channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:29] <andry> TomAstro, you need to install wine manually and use the multiarch package of tv, it should run fine then
[21:29] <andry> for ubuntu 13.10
[21:29] <Kamuela>  alright fellas, gonna make the dive into 13.10! thanks again, i'll be back when i'm on the other side :)
[21:29] <newbie|2> sure
[21:29] <kostkon> newbie|2, you can share your anxieties with other in that channel
[21:29] <kostkon> others*
[21:34] <lucido> does this line in the X crash backr=trace mean that my driver is incompatible with my libc version?
[21:34] <lucido> [   561.697] (EE) 11: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xf5) [0x7fb274a27de5]
[21:35] <bekks> lucido: no.
[21:35] <bekks> lucido: X segfaults, not the driver.
[21:36] <lucido> bekks, yes, but it doesn't segfault with 304
[21:36] <lucido> only with 173
[21:36] <ljunggren> omygod what have i dont, my system is all choppy but i get almost 3000fps in glxgears.. ? i use to get 800
[21:42] <lucido> maybe I should revert to nvidia-96
[21:44] <minimec> ljunggren: glxgears is synced with your monitor refresh rare per default. To see the 'real' values you first have to 'export vblank_mode=0' in a terminal, before starting 'glxgears'.
[21:45] <to_mashek> minimec still internal micriphone does not work
[21:45] <therealayush> hello,i switched to ubuntu last year,i think i made a great choice
[21:47] <lucido> I cant find any ppas for saucy with legacy nvidia drivers
[21:47] <bekks> lucido: There are none, since saucy ships them.
[21:47] <lucido> bekks, only 304 and 173, which don't work for me
[21:47] <Troy^> lucido why do you need anything older then that?
[21:47] <to_mashek> minimec I give up for today. I will try another time again :P
[21:48] <bekks> lucido: And 196.
[21:48] <to_mashek> minimec thanks for hints
[21:48] <lucido> Troy^, 173 segfaults and 304 doesn't work with my xorg.conf
[21:48] <lucido> 196?
[21:48] <bekks> Oh, they dropped 196.
[21:48] <Troy^> why is your xorg.conf so different?
[21:48] <bekks> lucido: Then, basically, teher are no other drivers.
[21:49] <lucido> bekks, there is no 196 in saucy
[21:50] <bekks> lucido: Yeah, they dropped it.
[21:51] <bekks> 1108 224838 < bekks> lucido: Then, basically, teher are no other drivers.
[21:51] <bekks> lucido: You could check which updates got installed before it broke.
[21:51] <francesco2> Gooddd it works !
[21:51] <francesco2> eureka
[21:52] <Troy^> I don't understand what you could possibly be doing that doesn't work in a newer version of driver
[21:54] <bekks> Troy^: Different binary interface.
[21:54] <lucido> bekks, yes I looked at that but all I see is upgrades of lightdm and libboost and something called xorg glam they don't look like X http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384574/
[21:55] <Volchok> Hi all, does anyone know if Canonical releases Ubuntu release notes for generic kernels from their Software Manager?
[21:55] <bekks> Volchok: What are you looking for, basically?
[21:56] <Volchok> bekks, A changelog from Ubuntu's kernels. If that's how it would be said.
[21:56] <bekks> Volchok: What are you looking for in the changelog?
[21:56] <adrian> list
[21:57] <Volchok> bekks, To see what has changed in the kernel.
[21:57] <Volchok> I seen a few new kernels that have improved SSD support.
[21:57] <Volchok> Also, it would be nice to see what's been fixed.
[21:58] <bekks> Volchok: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_3.11.0.13.14/changelog
[21:58] <bekks> Volchok: Parent link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/linux-image
[21:59] <Volchok> Checking.
[21:59] <Volchok> Seems that second link helped a bit better, thanks bekks.
[21:59] <Volchok> :)
[22:01] <TheKing44> I need help.
[22:01] <bekks> !details | TheKing44
[22:02] <TheKing44> I am trying to install Ubuntu Studio to a thumb drive, but it seems I can only install the installer.
[22:02] <TheKing44> I can go into "Try without installing", but no luck installing so far.
[22:05] <Volchok> TheKing44, Are you currently using another operating system? Whilst, trying to install this thumb drive from.
[22:07] <TheKing44> @Volchok I am using Vanilla Ubuntu 13.10 and am attempting to use the disk creator.
[22:08] <Volchok> TheKing44, Are you using Startup Disk Creator and have formatted the thumb drive.
[22:10] <TheKing44> @Volchok It erased the disk, so I presume it meant formatting.
[22:10] <TheKing44> It has installed the boot loader.
[22:11] <Volchok> Have you supplied the image for it to make the startup disk.
[22:11] <Volchok> As the ISO can be corrupted too.
[22:12] <Volchok> Nonetheless is the thumb drive big enough to hold the ISO.
[22:13] <lucido> X is running, but what does this mean?
[22:13] <lucido> sudo xrandr -display :0 -q
[22:13] <lucido> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCan't open display :0
[22:15] <otak> lucido: happily X is not being run by root
[22:16] <minimec> TheKing44: I tend to (re)foramt USB stick with gparted, before I use it with the disk creator.
[22:17] <lucido> I see, but how come that while X is running :0 display still cant be found: xrandr -display :0 -q
[22:17] <lucido> No protocol specified
[22:17] <lucido> Can't open display :0
[22:17] <TheKing44> minimec It is formatted about how I like.
[22:18] <Volchok> I tend to use disk creator for formatting my flash drive to.
[22:18] <otak> lucido: that's without sudo?
[22:18] <lucido> otak, no
[22:19] <Volchok> TheKing44, Perhaps, it's Disk Creator to begin with newer versions doesn't explicitly imply they're 'stable'.
[22:19] <otak> I'm pretty sure you don't need to be root to run xrandr, it's in /usr/bin
[22:20] <lucido> otak, I'm not
[22:20] <pulsar78> hi, need some help setting up wired/wireless connection in ubuntu, since both are out, i have no clue how to handle this
[22:20] <lucido> export DISPLAY=:0
[22:21] <lucido> chris@chris-desktop:~$  export XAUTHORITY=/home/chris/.Xauthority
[22:21] <lucido> chris@chris-desktop:~$ xrandr -q
[22:21] <lucido> No protocol specified
[22:21] <lucido> Can't open display :0
[22:21] <FloodBot1> lucido: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i recently updated my dist-upgrade and now when i boot my computer all i get is a blackscreen
[22:21] <Psil0Cybin> do i resolve this by just using a previous kernal?
[22:21] <lucido> Psil0Cybin, what did u upgrade from?
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> i always keep my ubuntu 12.04 up to date
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> so i dont know what the last kernal upgrade was
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> but i get every single one in order...
[22:22] <mammuth_> #ubuntu-fr
[22:22] <Psil0Cybin> i forgot to write the number down when i booted in, how can i check in terminal what it is?
[22:23] <lucido> Psil0Cybin, uname -a
[22:23] <Psil0Cybin> right now im using Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-54-generic-pae #82-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 20:29:22 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux but i was using the newer one
[22:24] <Psil0Cybin> when i had the blackscreen the one after this one
[22:24] <TheKing44> Volchok, perhaps I should clarify. I think I know how to put an iso on a thumbdrive. The problem I ran into is I wasn't able to install the OS without unmounting the thumbdrive running the installer.
[22:24] <lucido> Psil0Cybin, I mean lsb_release -a
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> well it says im using Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> but my problem is with the 12.04 kernal version
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> the newest update
[22:25] <Psil0Cybin> i updated last night and now when i rebooted in, i just get a black screen
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | Psil0Cybin try this
[22:26] <auronandace> TheKing44: if you are trying to install to the usb stick you're installing from then that makes things rather complicated
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> so when would i run that command MonkeyDust ?
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> sorry I am semi new to linux but never had problems like this before
[22:26] <Psil0Cybin> usually updates dont break anything
[22:26] <Volchok> TheKing44, Seems a bit out of my technical area.
[22:27] <minimec> TheKing44: So you want to start the installer on the stick, then unmount the stick and install ubuntu on the same stick? That doesn't work. In that case it would be easier to install virtualbox, run the ubuntu iso and mount the stick into Virtualbox, and do the installation...
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Psil0Cybin  ubottu tells you why
[22:27] <TheKing44> Can I install the installer to my computer on a seperate paration, and use that to install it to my thumbdrive? Would my hard drive be safe if I split it?
[22:28] <j_elly> hey guys, just upgraded from 11.04 to 12.04.3 LTS (new clean installation); i am wondering about random freezes (desktop), changing to console via ctrl+alt+f1 and back helps but whats the point about? have you experienced similar issues with 12.04.3 lts?
[22:28] <Psil0Cybin> MonkeyDust: i understand why im asking
[22:28] <Psil0Cybin> when i would input it
[22:28] <Psil0Cybin> or how do i run it as that command
[22:29] <lucido> Psil0Cybin, it's a kernel option, not a command, read the linked page
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> Psil0Cybin  open this link and scroll down, it tells you how to resolve the black screen issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> thank you so much MonkeyDust q
[22:30] <Psil0Cybin> i am going to look at it now :)
[22:33] <lucido> xrandr can't find my display
[22:34] <bekks> lucido: Which display is your X server running on?
[22:35] <lucido> bekks, :0
[22:35] <bekks> lucido: Then you wouldnt get that error message.
[22:36] <lucido> bekks, root      2844  2.4  1.1 225564 45448 tty7     Ss+  05:34   0:01 /usr/bin/X -core :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[22:36] <bekks> lucido: Did you run "xhost +" from inside your running X?
[22:37] <lucido> bekks, no, I cant get past lightdm, I log in and it returns me to the login page
[22:37] <bekks> lucido: Is your disk full?
[22:38] <lucido> bekks, lots of space
[22:39] <kostkon> lucido, df -h
[22:39] <[twisti]> hello, im trying to get my ubuntu to use ipv6, but its not working the way i expected
[22:39] <minimec> lucido: <ctrl><alt>f1, login with yout username, then 'mv .Xauthority .Xauthority-old && exit' Login via lightdm...
[22:40] <[twisti]> i do "ip -f inet6 route" and get 2a01:4f8:162:43a4::/64 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256 \ fe80::/64 dev eth0  proto kernel  metric 256 \default via 2a01:4f8:162:43a4::1 dev eth0  metric 1024
[22:40] <[twisti]> but when i try ping6 2a01:4f8:162:43a4::1, i get From 2a01:4f8:162:43a4::b00b icmp_seq=1 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable
[22:40] <[twisti]> can someone help me troubleshoot that ?
[22:41] <lucido> minimec, thanks, Xauthority was corrupted it seams
[22:42] <Lord255> hi, i have two folders, similiar files in them asd.log.20131105 ; qwe.log.20131108 and the first file is opened in the browser but the other one wants to be downloaded. does anyone know why? i didnt change anything in my browser :o
[22:42] <Lord255> they are text files btw
[22:42] <minimec> lucido: Well the first time I had that problem, I was quiet shocked too, until I found the solution ... ;)
[22:42] <Lord255> any idea on that?
[22:43] <kwadronaut> xatr0z: where do i find a ubuntu config file from a package without installing that package?
[22:44] <zykotick9> Lord255: my "guess" is there is something in the logs, that fools "file" into thinking it's html code... type thing?  just a guess.
[22:44] <kostkon> kwadronaut, download its source package or the deb from packages.ubuntu.com
[22:44] <lucido> kwadronaut, download the package and then extract it with dpkg
[22:44] <kostkon> kwadronaut, and extract the deb
[22:45] <kostkon> kwadronaut, or the archive manager
[22:45] <Lord255> zykotick9, they are eggdrop logfiles, simple text. nothing else
[22:46] <lucido> This is my xorg.conf that worked fine with nvidia-173 but with nvidia-304 my lcd tv no longer recognizes the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6384844/
[22:47] <lucido> how can that be?
[22:47] <genii> kwadronaut: mkdir something&& cd something && apt-get download packagename && ar -x packagename && tar -xvzf data.tar.gz     ... then get it's conf files from the etc directory it makes there. When done: cd && rm -rf something
[22:48] <[twisti]> it looks like ipv6 is completely broken on my ubuntu lts 12.04 somewhow
[22:51] <ubuntutis> anybody know how to put the whole gimp manual on gimp?
[22:51] <Lord255> okay, if i want to download them one of them says "text file" the other one says "20131108" file
[22:51] <Lord255> why
[22:52] <lucido> Lord255, what do you want to do?
[22:52] <minimec> lucido: In your cas with that rather old 'gf7200', I would use 12.04 and stay on that version. The problems you have now will continue with 14.04. I am not sure how the mir or xmir will be handling your card. IMHO 12.04 is the best and save way for you. Just my opinion.
[22:52] <[twisti]> is it even possible to use ipv6 with ubuntu 12 ? all i find on google is talk about bugs, slowdowns and how to disable ipv6 support
[22:53] <lucido> minimec, 2l8
[22:53] <Lord255> i have two folders, similiar files in them asd.log.20131105 ; qwe.log.20131108 and the first file is opened in the browser but the other one wants to be downloaded. does anyone know why? i didnt change anything in my browser :o | meanwhile i made a file with touch dsfsd.20131108 and i opened it in the browser as text file
[22:53] <Lord255> lucido, i want to open those files in browser, not to dl them
[22:53] <ragusource> hey guys, how do i set the default file permissions for users?
[22:53] <ragusource> I tried changing the umask in /etc/logins.def but it doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:54] <lucido> Lord255, your browser has the extension 2344235 or whatever it is associated to something and it doesnt regocnize it as a text file
[22:55] <Lord255> no it has not. :) ech day new ending, i told you i didnt edited anything in my browser
[22:55] <Lord255> and others has the same problem
[22:55] <minimec> lucido: Reinstallation will take some time I agree, but afterwards you're good for another 3 years. I would take that into consideration. 12.04 gets kernel upgrades, new browser versions and so on. Looks like even the steam boxes will be based on 12.04. Ubuntu 12.04 will become some kind of Ubuntu XP.
[22:59] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04....   I'm getting inconsistent results with knotes.  Yesterday I was able to attach a note as a tab to another application.  Today, that option is no longer avaliable.  Any ideas how to fix that?
[23:01] <intrader> minimet, kostcon I followed your advice to lock an application to the Dash Bar. So far and icon for the executable appears in the desktop, but not in the dashbar.
[23:02] <Kvisle> anyone noticed that the top bar in unity has become a whole lot more unresponsive after upgrading to 13.10?
[23:04] <minimec> intrader: OK. Take that icon from the desktop and move or copy it to '.local/share/applications' with the nautilus file manager. It will then appear in the unity dash.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> Kvisle, unity is a compiz plugin, in general at times it seems to need a reset, there is a specific one for 13.10 you might consider it.
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Kvisle, Upgrades have there own inherent problems individually as well.
[23:06] <Lord255> zykotick9, you were right :)
[23:06] <francesc_> guys, on ubuntu how I see all the list of my programs?
[23:07] <Lord255> i have checked the other files and found one which had the same problem, so i checked it. text file had some unknown char in it
[23:07] <Lord255> bb
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> francesc_, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages  will give you a list of installed
[23:08] <francesc_> and through out the interfact?
[23:08] <francesc_> interface*
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> francesc_, all installed packages
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> francesc_, I use it for reinstalls
[23:10] <francesc_> wilee i mean
[23:10] <francesc_> to run it :P
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> !tab | francesc_
[23:11] <Kvisle> wilee-nilee: I'd rather help troubleshoot the problem and get it fixed upstream, I think -- if the user interface is broken in this way, it's a big bug
[23:11] <francesc_> ubottu: thank you :D
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> Kvisle, Your assuming your situation is a bug, it may not be.
[23:12] <Kvisle> wilee-nilee: if I click on the mixer, and it takes 15 seconds for it to appear --- yes, that's abug.
[23:12] <francesc_> wilee-nilee: I mean if I install skype and i want to use it ?: P where I have to click with the mouse?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> Kvisle, Your complaint is the first I have seen, and nobody has responded, what does that tell you.
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> francesc_, In unity I would assume tyoe it ion the dash and click, add it to the panel if needed.
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> s/type/in
[23:13] <kostkon> francesc_, theres also skype-wrapper that will add it to the msging menu
[23:14] <moppy> Kvisle, is it just the global menu bar?
[23:14] <Kvisle> moppy: yes.
[23:14] <Kvisle> moppy: I've seen it lock up on several occasions, and then a couple of hours later it works faster -- but not fast enough ... I gave my computer a reboot, it works better now
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> Kvisle, may seem like a bug in your setup, however your set up may need a bit of work, say a simple reset, in other words this may not be playing out across the OS in general.
[23:15] <ragusource> is there a way to prevent users from changing their umask?
[23:15] <moppy> Kvisle, it's a knonw bug give me 1 sec to find the bug report
[23:15] <Kvisle> wilee-nilee: I'm gonna listen to moppy.
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> good for you
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> bugs are easy to find that should of been your first move
[23:16] <moppy> i think it's this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1199877
[23:17] <moppy> claims to be fixed in update
[23:17] <Kvisle> oh, cool -- maybe it's gone now since I just booted with new patches then
[23:17] <francesc_> kostkon: thank you anyway I did not understand I ll look on youtube D:
[23:18] <moppy> Kvisle, ah it came back - see the recent posts, dated a few hours ago
[23:18] <moppy> Kvisle, indicator-appmenu needs updating, following the instructions htere
[23:19] <Kvisle> moppy: I can see it, I still have the old one -- testing new
[23:20]  * wilee-nilee loves confirmation bias
[23:21] <Kvisle> wilee-nilee: the described symptoms of the original bug report matches pretty well - I've been using gimp a lot, and the problem has increased over time when using gimp.
[23:21] <Kvisle> so call it whatever you want
[23:21] <Kvisle> :P
[23:26] <Heynoww> howdy
[23:27] <Heynoww> I'm the owner of Lemonparty.org (nsfw).  If anyone wants some good exposure / good promotion, I would be happy to promote any venture or URL or aff link you want on this site in exchange for BTC.  This site has been referenced in television shows and movies.  Website receives thousands of visitors daily.  I'm also selling @Lemonparty.org email for the first time ever- for 0.015 Bitcoin
[23:27] <Heynoww> And provide proof I own it
[23:28] <moppy> this joke is a bit old isn't it?
[23:28] <Heynoww> 'joke' ?
[23:28] <Heynoww> yes it's a site that has been seen by hundreds of millions of people over the last decade.. but its still kickin;
[23:28] <winb> kick the guy please not relevant
[23:29] <Heynoww> Not necessary
[23:29] <Heynoww> I will leave on my own accord
[23:29] <Heynoww> Once again, PM me if you have interest.  It makes a good christmas present to an internet geek.  Goodbye
[23:29] <moppy> I was just observing that the lemonparty joke sees old, that;s all
[23:29] <winb> lame
[23:30] <bekks> Seems like funding drained out, when he is even begging for BTC in totally unrelated channels :) </ot>
[23:31] <moppy> he does have a point though, it would be a kind of funny thing to buy someone for christsmas
[23:31] <pero> i think my system has stop sending in bug/crash reports when something goes awry - is there any way i can look into it? i'm on 13.10
[23:31] <Kvisle> moppy: thanks a bunch :)
[23:33] <minimec> pero: 'sudo gedit /etc/default/apport' enabled=0 means no automatic bug report. Switch to '1' if you want.
[23:33] <pero> it's already at 1
[23:34] <minimec> pero: So no bugs... ;)
[23:34] <pero> just that after the last 10 or so incidents the browser hasn't popped up to take me to launchpad like it used to
[23:34] <pero> something crashes daily :)
[23:35] <GZA-Genius> quick and simple question if i add a program to Startup Programs will that execute said program under currently signed in user?
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> GZA-Genius, depends on the program.
[23:36] <wilee-nilee>  currently signed in user? not sure
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> thats really two questions, the program and if specific user
[23:37] <minimec> GZA-Genius: You have to logout/login to execute them. Every user can set them individually.
[23:38] <moppy> GZA-Genius,  in mine i have google chrome and pidgin - they both execute as me for obvious reasons
[23:41] <ni291187> I tried updating to 13.10, and my computer is broken now
[23:41] <ni291187> the resolution is broken, mouse doesn't work, keyboard doesn't work
[23:41] <cpined> hello, is this a place I can ask about opening a port?
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, Any of these have drivers associated, for example fro resolution a graphic driver?
[23:42] <GZA-Genius> minimec: i know you have to logout and back in once added, what i wanted to know is: say I am logged in now as "user" I add program to my Startup Applications lets say I add "tor --runasdaemon 1" when I log in next time will that process be run as "user"
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> cpined, ubuntu related yes.
[23:44] <cpined> hmmm...fedora?
[23:44] <asdasdasdasdasda> Hello, I want to ask if ubuntu respects users freedoms?
[23:44] <GZA-Genius> lol
[23:44] <cpined> is'nt it the same concept?
[23:44] <ni291187> I started the update process last night, when I woke up, the window was frozen, I restarted. res broken. I check to see if nvidia drivers are there, they appeared to be. i typed dpkg --connnsomething  -a the update stared running again. I reboot, now mouse and keyboard does not work in login screen, but it does work when selecting a boot option in grub
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> !ot | asdasdasdasdasda
[23:44] <apb1963> Some windows have "Attach As Tab To >" at the same level as "Other Actions"... other windows do not have it at all.  What generates those menus?
[23:45] <minimec> GZA-Genius: 'gnome-session-properties' is bound to the user that starts a session. So if user 'GZA'' adds a program to his session properties, the software should run as 'GZA', correct. Never checked that, but seems obvious to me.
[23:45] <kingbeast> why am I having such a time running apt-get update in 13.10?
[23:45] <ni291187> wilee-nilee , yes I am feeling it is a driver issue or perhaps something with the nvidia configure file
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, A upgrade does not keep the graphic drivers, they need reloading.
[23:45] <apb1963> I'm using kde desktop
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> apb1963  me too
[23:45] <GZA-Genius> minimec: seemed obvious to me also but that dont mean its true ;) tnx
[23:46] <ni291187> ok, but my mouse and keyboard do not work now!!!
[23:46] <GZA-Genius> you mean #ubuntu isn't a Fedora support channel?
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> GZA-Genius  a Fedora is a hat => Red Hat, get the pun?
[23:47] <puff`> Hm, I just got a nexus 5 and I'm trying to figure out how to get music onto it from my ubuntu 13 latop.
[23:47] <ni291187> I went in to recovery mode, my mouse and keyboard do not work there either
[23:48] <GZA-Genius> puff`: just plug it in
[23:49] <GZA-Genius> puff`: the nexus should ask you what you want to connect to as: mass storage, media, camera
[23:49] <puff`> It offered Media Device and Camera.
[23:49] <GZA-Genius> just choose mass storage, depending on the android version that option may not be there so u would choose media device
[23:50] <puff`> GZA-Genius: Yeah, it didn't offer mass storage.  I see now that it's Media Devicethe file browser is listing an Internal Storage folder, so away we go...
[23:50] <puff`> GZA-Genius: Thanks.
[23:50] <ni291187> wilee-nilee , any ideas?
[23:51] <asdasdasdasdasda> is ubuntu collecting data about user and sending it to canonical?
[23:51] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: possible there is a short in usb connection?
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, Your description is rather vague and includes a freeze up I would get to a cli and run sudo apt-get -f install to see if the upgrade finished.
[23:52] <ni291187> how do I boot in to cli?
[23:52] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: sometimes there may be a ground fault or short in the case/usb port. I have had systems lock up and not work because of that and just unplugging and plugging back in or to another port fixes the issue
[23:53] <ni291187> I tried unplugging and rep lugging
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[23:53] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: alt+ctrl+f2 at login screen, or hold down shift before ubuntu boots to get recovery menu
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> i am going to attempt to fix my blackscreen rpoblem when i get home.
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> how come it happens tho often after a kernal update
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> :S
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> is there anyway to report this so it wont happen from now on?
[23:54] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: then choose the kernel version you want (recovery mode) then choose enable networking, then choose drop to root shell
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, Ah, I forgot the keyboard problem sort of an important unit to get graphics and run that command. Can you get to the login and crtrl-alt-f1 and see if the keyboard works there.
[23:55] <ni291187> it does not, I tried that. I can't even turn on caps lock light when I push the caps lock button
[23:55] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: if it does I actually had the same issue yesterday with a clients laptop, its a strange bug but easily fixable
[23:56] <ni291187> oh, really?
[23:56] <ni291187> plz do tell
[23:56] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: have another mouse/keyboard laying around? is it a wireless set? is there something in the bios that may have been changed giving you issues?
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, Out of my area to fix really, if it were me I would boot a live cd to make sure they work there, and consider grabbing what is needed and doing a fresh install, but I never upgrade myself.
[23:56] <ni291187> the keyboard works in grub
[23:57] <ni291187> but it breaks afterwards
[23:57] <GZA-Genius> strange
[23:58] <GZA-Genius> the bug i know about with 13.10 is the keyboard wont work in alot of the window spaces but your able to use the mouse, but the keyboard works 100% if you drop to shell
[23:59] <ni291187> I have to say that during the second update, I pushed yes for some sort of replace,ent, and I think it was something to do with grub or loader. it was recommended by the distributor or something like that
[23:59] <GZA-Genius> so if yours is not working in shell its obvious there is a different problem