| Unit193 | brainwash: Did you end up going for uptrack? | 02:25 |
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| slickymaster | good morning all | 09:57 |
| lderan | good morning slickymaster | 09:58 |
| slickymaster | lderan :) and a good one to you, too | 09:59 |
| lderan | \o/ | 10:00 |
| === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash | ||
| brainwash | looks like xscreensaver has been already replaced, is this correct? | 12:33 |
| brainwash | just started the upgrade process on my test system (-> trusty) | 12:34 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i wouldn't know anything about that, i'd be surprised tbh | 13:25 |
| ochosi | light-locker is uploaded to trusty, but i don't think anyone has done changes to our seeds yet | 13:26 |
| brainwash | ochosi: xscreensaver got removed during the upgrade process | 13:26 |
| ochosi | interesting | 13:26 |
| brainwash | well, not yet, still downloading the new packages with my slow connection | 13:26 |
| brainwash | but it's marked to get removed | 13:27 |
| brainwash | ochosi: do think that it's necessary to commit the xfdesktop wm-check fix upstream? it would be a port of the xfce4-panel wm-check | 13:30 |
| ochosi | what xfce4-panel wm-check again? | 13:31 |
| ochosi | (sorry, it's been a while and i'm a bit off-track with this issue) | 13:32 |
| brainwash | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/commit/?h=eric/Port-to-GApplication&id=f8204f77cf48452b7021ee707369f6b69f322928 | 13:32 |
| brainwash | wait a minute | 13:33 |
| brainwash | stupid me | 13:33 |
| brainwash | it's already done | 13:33 |
| ochosi | righty | 13:35 |
| brainwash | ok, so I'll need to test this implementation and check, if it works for our case | 13:35 |
| ochosi | that'd be great | 13:35 |
| brainwash | if the delay is big enough | 13:35 |
| ochosi | and then i can see what we can do about lightdm-gtk-greeter | 13:35 |
| ochosi | fwiw, i'll also try to add a feature to the greeter that'll reduce the flickering when switching VTs | 13:36 |
| ochosi | (force the X11 screensaver to blank the screen) | 13:36 |
| brainwash | right, 1) set the xwindow property (my patch) and avoid setting the background twice (config one and then user one) | 13:36 |
| ochosi | so i hope that this way the screen will blank, flicker and then remain blank | 13:36 |
| brainwash | sounds interesting | 13:36 |
| ochosi | this would also help with light-locker's timed locking | 13:37 |
| ochosi | so it'd feel more like a real replacement for a screensaver | 13:38 |
| brainwash | 2014, the year of the flicker-free xubuntu desktop :) | 13:39 |
| ochosi | i'm sometimes thinking about letting plymouth fade-in and fade-out | 13:39 |
| ochosi | (or at least fade-in when it starts) | 13:39 |
| brainwash | and fade-out | 13:40 |
| ochosi | that'd make it feel a little smoother | 13:40 |
| brainwash | is that even possible? | 13:41 |
| ochosi | i dunno | 13:41 |
| ochosi | fade-in might be | 13:41 |
| ochosi | not sure about fade-out (at least without adding a useless timeout which makes the boot-time longer) | 13:41 |
| ochosi | but please let me know how the greeter-stuff goes for you | 13:42 |
| ochosi | i won't have time to work on this before next week (the earliest), still many other things to do (parole, light-locker) | 13:42 |
| brainwash | yeah, already upgrading to trusty to get started | 13:43 |
| brainwash | maybe you should add a new entry to the xubuntu trusty agenda -> screen flicker elimination | 13:44 |
| ochosi | cool | 13:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, do that | 13:44 |
| brainwash | ok | 13:46 |
| ochosi | better to keep track of this issue | 13:48 |
| ochosi | brainwash: you could also write a separate spec-page on the xubuntu wiki and describe where the flickering happens and then how it can be dealt with | 14:02 |
| ochosi | that'll help others to understand the issue more easily (and you won't have to explain it all the time), and we can keep track of the status | 14:02 |
| brainwash | ochosi: yes, I'll put it on my todo list, some test packages (PPA) are planned too | 14:05 |
| ochosi | nice | 14:05 |
| jjfrv8 | skellat, knome, I did the SRU docs update on two machines. It didn't break anything but there are two aesthetic anomalies I wanted to run by you. | 14:23 |
| jjfrv8 | the initial 'About' page doesn't look so pretty: http://imagebin.org/276195 | 14:24 |
| jjfrv8 | and the 'Index' page doesn't have the nice graphical header that it does in the local build: http://imagebin.org/276197 | 14:25 |
| jjfrv8 | the new installed version is on the bottom in that second screenshot | 14:26 |
| jjfrv8 | so are both of those things to be expected? | 14:26 |
| ochosi | one looks like missing css | 14:27 |
| ochosi | the other like a missing image | 14:27 |
| ochosi | (at least that header reads like an alt-text) | 14:27 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, so does that mean there's something missing in the -proposed package? | 14:29 |
| ochosi | i would assume so | 14:30 |
| jjfrv8 | ugh | 14:30 |
| ochosi | but it's really up to knome and skellat to judge, i wasn't involved at all in the offline-docs | 14:30 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i copied your plugins-page to docs.xfce.org, lemme know if you update it again (you mentioned something about the wallpaper, to me the screeners look fine) | 14:34 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, I hope to get the DVD menu section done tonight or tomorrow. | 14:35 |
| ochosi | jjfrv8: great! i think that's the last missing piece, right? | 14:35 |
| jjfrv8 | lemme check to see if slickymaster got the Video section done yet. | 14:36 |
| ochosi | ah right | 14:36 |
| ochosi | that one's missing too | 14:36 |
| jjfrv8 | yeah | 14:36 |
| ochosi | well nvm, you two really have been extremely productive – really nice job! | 14:36 |
| jjfrv8 | thanks | 14:37 |
| ochosi | well thank *you* ;) | 14:37 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, and one other small item we need to work in somewhere, the right-click menu in the playback window | 14:39 |
| ochosi | oh right | 14:40 |
| ochosi | good call remembering that one | 14:40 |
| ochosi | maybe before or after the kb-shortcuts | 14:40 |
| jjfrv8 | k | 14:40 |
| jjfrv8 | skellat, knome, just so's you know, the steps I took to do the update were... | 14:41 |
| jjfrv8 | enabled pre-released updates (precise-proposed) in USC... | 14:41 |
| jjfrv8 | ran 'sudo apt-get update'. | 14:42 |
| jjfrv8 | ran 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-docs/precise-released' | 14:42 |
| jjfrv8 | whoops, I meant 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-docs/precise-proposed' | 14:44 |
| jjfrv8 | bbiab | 14:45 |
| knome | hmph, yeah, seems like missing stuff | 14:47 |
| knome | jjfrv8, i'll get to your email soonish, my internet has been down all day today | 14:47 |
| ochosi | meh, that's not nice... http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/11/08/1335231/canonical-targets-ubuntu-privacy-critic | 14:58 |
| knome | not surprising | 14:59 |
| ochosi | yeah, but also "not nice" | 15:00 |
| knome | sure | 15:00 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8, ochosi, I'm planning on the Video section done tonight or tomorrow the latest | 15:10 |
| slickymaster | ^^ on having, that is | 15:10 |
| ochosi | slickymaster: sweet! | 15:10 |
| ochosi | probably won't be around for a good part of the weekend | 15:11 |
| ochosi | have friends visiting | 15:11 |
| slickymaster | ochosi: np | 15:11 |
| ochosi | but on sunday evening or monday i can sync everything again | 15:11 |
| slickymaster | ochosi: ny the way, you mentioned the other day that you probably will need some further help with docs.xfce.org, you can count on me | 15:12 |
| ochosi | slickymaster: that's really great! | 15:12 |
| ochosi | i mean xubuntu will obviously also benefit from that | 15:12 |
| ochosi | so it's twice as cool :) | 15:12 |
| slickymaster | ochosi: it will be a pleasure, to both help xubuntu and xfce | 15:13 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, no worries on the e-mail | 15:14 |
| slickymaster | jjfrv8, ochosi, one thing I noticed that I missed on the Media menu is the Insert disk/Play disk option, I'll do it also | 15:15 |
| GridCube | i think they didnt even checkwht the site was about ochosi, they just saw it said "ubuntu" in the url and sent a generic email | 15:15 |
| ochosi | GridCube: yeah, that doesn't make it a lot better unfortunately... | 15:16 |
| GridCube | i don't see why not, they saw someone not from canonical using an url that said "ubuntu" on it, they sent a letter asking them politely not to do so | 15:17 |
| GridCube | they didn't said anything about the actual contents of the site, they never attacked the webpage owner free of speech in any way either | 15:18 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, btw, I've been using Whisker Menu and like it a lot. | 15:22 |
| jjfrv8 | it's especially nice on the test machines I set up because it's so quick and easy to set up favorites | 15:23 |
| jjfrv8 | but I've also replaced alacarte with it on my Precise main machine. | 15:23 |
| ochosi | nice | 15:23 |
| ochosi | good to hear that | 15:23 |
| ochosi | i hope micahg can soon copy over the package from the dev's ppa to the xubuntu-dev PPA | 15:24 |
| ochosi | GridCube: to be frank i only read the slashdot summary ;) | 15:24 |
| ochosi | bbl | 15:26 |
| jjfrv8 | me too | 15:26 |
| micahg | ochosi: can you send me an email with what needs to be moved? | 16:13 |
| micahg | or a PM? | 16:13 |
| Unit193 | Think he wants a "backport" of Whisker. :P | 16:15 |
| micahg | oh, that's all, can do over the weekend | 16:16 |
| micahg | been a busy week | 16:16 |
| Unit193 | It's stuck in new for Debian. | 16:16 |
| Unit193 | http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin.html nevermind, was accepted recently. | 16:18 |
| ochosi | micahg: either sync it from debian if it's ready there or you can also take it from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gottcode/+archive/gcppa | 17:40 |
| ochosi | but i can also send you an email with more details if needed | 17:40 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: If nothing else, it should be in the xfce4 vcs. | 17:41 |
| ochosi | Unit193: vcs? you mean git? | 17:41 |
| ochosi | git.xfce.org? | 17:41 |
| micahg | it just cleared NEW, I"ll get it sync'd over the weekend | 17:44 |
| micahg | ochosi: which releases did you want it for in the xubuntu PPA? | 17:44 |
| micahg | if the dependencies aren't complex we could do an official backport as well | 17:45 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/goodies/trunk/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/ | 17:45 |
| ochosi | ideally yes, but i'll not take up communication for that | 17:46 |
| ochosi | micahg: v1.2 | 17:50 |
| ochosi | Unit193: ah, nice | 17:51 |
| micahg | oh, hum | 17:52 |
| micahg | ok will have to look later | 17:52 |
| ochosi | bbl | 17:53 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Heya, still haven't had time for indicators? Have them uploaded anywhere? | 18:04 |
| micahg | Unit193: afraid not, been working late all week, I should have a little time sat night, don't know if it'll be enough to finish, hopefully can at least get the panel up | 18:08 |
| Unit193 | Cool, thanks for the update. | 18:09 |
| brainwash | ochosi: the upgrade to trusty finally finished, now I have to clean up everything, because the system did run out of disk space during the upgrade :/ | 18:10 |
| brainwash | ochosi: and xscreensaver got marked as obsolete package | 18:21 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre, jjfrv8, ochosi, the Video section is done -> http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=usage#video All that's needed now is your review and approval | 18:38 |
| slickymaster | bluesabre, jjfrv8, ochosi, also I've added the missing Insert disk/Play disk option in http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=usage#play_media | 18:39 |
| Noskcaj | Are we going to ship gthumb for 14.04? | 18:58 |
| skellat | jjfrv8: Please make sure to note what you found testing the SRU for 12.04 xubuntu-docs in the bug. We might have to mark it verification-failed. | 19:12 |
| jjfrv8 | skellat, I commented on the SRU docs bug but did not mark it verification-failed yet. | 20:10 |
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