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emmahow is xubuntu looking these days?02:19
holsteinemma: check it out live.. load it up02:26
jparremma: great on a thinkpad t430s here02:45
Pwnnasome how i lost the ability to resize my window with SHIFT + rightclick?03:10
Pwnnahow do i get that back?03:10
holsteinPwnna: i suppose you could always reset the .config files for it.. is it not in the window manager settings?03:36
Pwnnaholstein: i have a lot of other settings03:40
Pwnnaholstein: idk.03:40
Pwnnai don't know what i'm looking for03:40
Pwnnathere's a short cut for resizing window03:40
Pwnnabut that's not SHIFT + right click03:41
redderhsemma: i'm running 13.04 on a Lenovo Y500 coming from Windows 7, I love it.03:46
redderhsvery polished..03:47
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slash0megahello, dose the xubuntu iso fit on a cd?04:59
Unit193Nope.04:59
slash0megaok, thank you for the quick answer :)04:59
Unit193Problem with that?04:59
Unit193If the BIOS doesn't support it booting off USB, could see if a BIOS update would fix it.05:00
slash0megathanks, but i think ill just pick up some dvd's tomorow05:01
Ryan-in-Sea-Townhey guys05:06
ObrienDavegreetings, and welcome05:07
Ryan-in-Sea-TownThank you!05:08
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cousteaucan I set the sound output to mono?  one of my earbuds doesn't work09:29
cousteau(tried to do this on another PC with Windows 7 and it can't be done; I mostly want to do this to make my Windows friend envious)09:30
cousteaudoesn't seem to be possible graphically09:32
Unit193http://askubuntu.com/questions/17791/can-i-downmix-stereo-audio-to-mono looks fun in PA. :P09:33
cousteauso seems to be possible but not GUI-ly09:34
cousteaure: my one-eared earphones I'll just store them carefully in the garbage bin and get another ones09:40
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eva_hi upgraded my mothers laptop to 13.10 and her keyboard stopped functioning, its ok in BIOS so its not hardware fault. What can i do?11:40
bgardnereva_: Do you have an external keyboard that you can use to diagnose with?11:42
eva_bgardner, im using it right now11:42
eva_external keyboard that it11:42
eva_Some Tech guy tried to fix it stupid. Now SuperKey does not work on external either.. i have no idea what he done11:43
eva_i dont want to reinstall the whole os but will if i must11:44
bgardnereva_: I'd start with dmesg if I were you, then - see if any notes in there about the keyboard.11:44
bgardnereva_: Go ahead and pastebin it if you would like me to review it with you.11:44
eva_bgardner, he messed up shortcuts.. ctrl+alt+T opens another window in xchat instead of terminall..gaaah11:45
bgardnereva_: Yuck.  Okay, separate issues though - we'll start with the keyboard.11:45
eva_cant copy the text lol11:46
eva_i get ^C in terminal instead while i ctrl+C11:46
eva_GAHD11:46
bgardnerIn a terminal, use Ctrl-Shift-C11:46
bgardnerOr use the pastebinit command, like this:  dmesg | pastebinit11:47
bgardnerCtrl-C has a different meaning in a terminal, that's not broken.11:47
eva_alt+tab is also broken11:48
eva_he returned her laptop and said" nooop could not fix it but here is an external keyboard" lol11:48
bekksalt+tab doesnt work in terminal.11:48
eva_no but switching between windows should11:48
eva_bgardner, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381614/11:49
bgardnereva_: What is the make/model of your laptop?11:53
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eva_lg p1 express dual11:54
eva_must reboot brb11:55
eva_bgardner, there11:58
bgardnereva_: There what?11:58
eva_http://stevesubuntutweaks.blogspot.se/2013/10/laptop-keyboard-stopped-working-after.html bgardner , will try this12:00
bgardnereva_: Found a similar thread on ubuntuforums, here is the link for your reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204148312:01
bgardnereva_: Definitely sounds like you found the solution in that first link, though.12:02
eva_bgardner, hey, i solved it with the link i sent12:34
eva_I want my mother to try xfce instead of unity since Unity is a little demaning on her old laptop.. is installing xfce or xubuntu-desktop the best approach?12:35
eva_approach12:35
eva_what do you recommend12:35
cfhowletteva_, to try xfce just install xfce4.  to give her the full meal deal, xubuntu-desktop12:36
koegsxfce is plain xfce, xubuntu-desktop ist xfce with all shiny apps and themes12:36
eva_cfhowlett, yeah. but will i have double of everything or can my ubuntu install co-exist with xubuntu-desktop fine?12:37
cfhowletteva_, no doubling and they'll co-exist12:38
eva_BUT.. won't a lot of unity stuff show up in xubuntu when chose that session?12:38
eva_Like indicators etc packages installed12:38
cfhowletteva_, I did this earlier tonight on the company machine.  unity in only the interface.  the apps will run12:39
eva_cfhowlett, ah ok! you installed xubuntu-desktop?12:39
cfhowlettand the non-xfce/xubuntu indicators just won't appear12:39
eva_awesome12:39
cfhowletteva_, no only xfce12:39
eva_Ah ok...12:39
eva_Just tell me what to do i can't make up my mind cfhowlett12:40
eva_lol12:40
cfhowletteva_, install xfce4, logout, choose xfce login.  OR skip all that12:41
cfhowlettlogout, choose the openbox? option and log back in.  no unity12:41
eva_wut12:41
koegsif you install xfce, it will not look like the screenshot at xubuntu.org, you will have a plain xfce but with all apps coming with ubuntu12:41
eva_koegs, yes, but if i install xubuntu-desktop will i have two update-managers etc? two network managers runnin etc?12:42
koegsnope12:42
koegsboth use the same packages, they wont be installed or used twice12:42
eva_Ah ok.. old issue perhaps i remember i screwed my old system that way12:42
eva_lots of errors where given12:42
eva_koegs, so you recommend me to install xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce4? ;)12:43
cfhowletteva_, that's one reason I suggest ONLY the DE and not the desktop install12:43
koegsif you want the full xubuntu-like experience, yes12:43
eva_cfhowlett, so it could happen?12:44
brainwashI've installed every single desktop environment on my test system and the xfce and xubuntu sessions run just fine12:44
cfhowletteva_, nope, pretty sure as koegs said.12:44
eva_brainwash, wow.. everyone?12:44
eva_I will install xubuntu-desktop now. i hope she is not mad by me.. i just want to show her how speedy stuff goes12:44
brainwasheva_: yes, unity, kde, gnome, lxde, e17, razor-qt,..12:44
eva_but perhaps i should check out xfce4 first12:44
eva_brainwash, cool12:44
eva_see if it runs much smoother12:45
eva_xfce package is not even in ubuntu software center12:46
cfhowletteva_, sudo apt-get install xfce412:46
eva_thanks12:46
eva_comeonnnnn12:49
eva_oh sorry tought i was in another window12:49
cfhowletteva_, might also want to peek at lubuntu/lxde.  same command sequence12:50
eva_thanks12:51
eva_sudo apt-get install lxde12:51
xubuntu701hello14:19
xubuntu701italian chan please14:19
Sysi!it14:19
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)14:19
NepomukHello World. I am new to ubuntu. I installed XUbuntu on my netbook and i am searching a way to see my HDD's. I am searching for 30min now and i can't find it.14:53
jax23hi genii19:04
jax23i solved the problem19:05
jax23i reinstalled the o.s.19:05
jax23*sigh*19:06
jax23:-(19:06
geniijax23: Yes, I figured that was probably the only way, as their support page indicated.19:07
jax23thanks for your interest19:07
jax23i think so19:07
jax23bye bye19:08
geniijax23: You know where I am if you need assistance another time :)19:13
Nate_Hello. Could someone please help me with a sound issue?20:04
Nate_I have recently installed Xubuntu 13;10 and am having the non-functioning sound indicator issue20:05
Nate_I have tried the fixes listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade20:05
Nate_and here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html20:05
Nate_but neither seems to have worked.20:05
Poisoned_DragonNate_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/120820420:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]20:06
ljunggreni deleted it from the panel20:06
Poisoned_DragonRead comment 520:06
Poisoned_Dragonthen log out and log back in.20:07
Nate_I tried the fix listed there20:07
Nate_and I have logged out and back in20:07
Nate_but it does not work20:07
Poisoned_DragonThen it should be working, unless you have hardware issues.20:07
Nate_It worked perfectly fine running Ubuntu 13.0420:07
Nate_as recently as two hours ago20:07
Poisoned_DragonI use Ubuntu Studio 13.1020:08
Poisoned_DragonFix works fine.20:08
Nate_Now, I will mention that logging out and back in seems to be saving my session, despite leaving the check box unchecked20:08
Nate_So I am wondering if it is not reloading the settings in the way it is supposed to20:08
ljunggrenhave you rebooted20:08
ljunggrenjust to be sure20:08
Nate_I have20:08
Nate_I have ever peformed a complete shutdown20:09
Nate_*even20:09
ljunggrena ok20:09
Nate_It is still saving my session20:09
Nate_and the sound still is not workin20:09
Nate_*working20:09
ljunggrenwait20:09
ljunggrensound is not working?20:09
Nate_Not at all20:09
ljunggrenat all?20:09
ljunggrenAh then its another issue20:09
Nate_I see20:09
Poisoned_DragonYeah, the fix only fixes the indicator.20:10
Poisoned_DragonIf you're having hardware issues, you must resolve them first.20:10
ljunggrenlol20:10
ljunggreni can't even log out?20:10
ljunggrenpress logout and nothing happens20:10
ljunggrenwhat just happened...20:10
ljunggrenis there a command for loging out20:11
Nate_OK I'll bite. I don't see a proprietary driver that I might have missed. What else could be causing my sound issue?20:15
Junkawhen will xubuntu will official fix the sound indicator?20:18
Nate_Ah. Got it.20:21
Poisoned_DragonWhat was it?20:21
Nate_Needed to remove and re-install alsa-pulseaudio apparently20:21
Poisoned_DragonOh... weird.20:21
Poisoned_DragonBut, as long as you're at full speed20:21
Nate_sed the first alternate method on this page: http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/20:21
Poisoned_Dragonso be it20:22
Poisoned_Dragoncool20:23
Nate_OK, new problem. I am an idiot and removed the indicator icon, and now can't seem to re-add it. It doesn't appear under "add new items" for the panel20:24
Nate_The volume CAN be changed with the hardware keys20:24
Poisoned_Dragonthe sound indicator isn't a plugin on it's own.20:24
Poisoned_DragonIt's appears in the indicator plugin20:25
Poisoned_DragonIf the indicator plugin is in the panel, it's not the fault of the plugin20:25
Nate_I restored the indicator, and it brought back network status but not the sound controls20:26
Poisoned_Dragonmight need to log out and in again, since you uninstalled/reinstalled that package.20:28
Poisoned_DragonOh... wait20:29
Poisoned_Dragondid you reload alsa?20:29
Nate_yes20:29
Poisoned_Dragonsudo alsa force-reload?20:29
Nate_yes20:30
Poisoned_DragonHmm... Then I dunno.20:30
Poisoned_DragonShort of rebooting.20:30
Nate_is there an alternate volume control I can use?20:30
Nate_well, I can try rebooting. I'm not chatting on the machine I'm working on20:31
Poisoned_DragonOh, do that then.20:31
Poisoned_DragonTell us what happens.20:31
Nate_will do.20:31
Poisoned_DragonI gotta get me some headache pills.20:31
Nate_Soft reboot or all the way off to all the way back on?20:31
Poisoned_DragonTry logging out first.20:33
Poisoned_DragonThen worry about going all the way.20:33
Nate_logging out didn't work20:34
Nate_Trying a complete power off20:34
Nate_that didn't work either.20:35
Nate_Is there an alternate volume control I can try instead?20:35
Nate_I know it can be changed. The hardware keys for it work fine.20:35
Nate_OK, I was able to re-inable it in the startup panel20:41
Nate_the only odd problem is that the icon is black instead of white20:41
Nate_Also, there is no sound option in settings manager.20:43
Nate_Close enough for now I guess. Thanks for the help.20:45
ljunggrenIt's so boring i get bad UI performance with fgrlx drivers but bad performance in game with opensource drivers21:04
ljunggrendilema21:04
bekksSo play games more often, or dont play them anymore ;)21:04
ljunggrenyup21:04
ljunggrensomething like that21:05
ljunggrenactually im in the wrong channel because on xfce i don't have this issue21:05
ljunggrenlol21:05
ljunggrensorry21:07
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glenrockwhat's the recommend way to fix the boot process (plymouth?) after installing the nvidia proprietary drivers?21:14
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ljunggrenhey21:15
ljunggrenhow do you guys watch movies without screentearing21:15
David-Aljunggren: maybe there are settings in the graphics driver you can try? maybe you can try different video output method in the media player?21:28
David-Aljunggren: come back and tell us what media player you used21:29
Junkaparole21:31
ljunggreni dont know what i have done now.. but my UI is really choppy but i get like 3000fps in glxgears..i use to get 800..21:40
ljunggrenand when put vsync on in amd ccc settings i get 30fps.. i have 60hz screen21:41
winb:)23:11
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