[02:19] <emma> how is xubuntu looking these days?
[02:26] <holstein> emma: check it out live.. load it up
[02:45] <jparr> emma: great on a thinkpad t430s here
[03:10] <Pwnna> some how i lost the ability to resize my window with SHIFT + rightclick?
[03:10] <Pwnna> how do i get that back?
[03:36] <holstein> Pwnna: i suppose you could always reset the .config files for it.. is it not in the window manager settings?
[03:40] <Pwnna> holstein: i have a lot of other settings
[03:40] <Pwnna> holstein: idk.
[03:40] <Pwnna> i don't know what i'm looking for
[03:40] <Pwnna> there's a short cut for resizing window
[03:41] <Pwnna> but that's not SHIFT + right click
[03:46] <redderhs> emma: i'm running 13.04 on a Lenovo Y500 coming from Windows 7, I love it.
[03:47] <redderhs> very polished..
[04:59] <slash0mega> hello, dose the xubuntu iso fit on a cd?
[04:59] <Unit193> Nope.
[04:59] <slash0mega> ok, thank you for the quick answer :)
[04:59] <Unit193> Problem with that?
[05:00] <Unit193> If the BIOS doesn't support it booting off USB, could see if a BIOS update would fix it.
[05:01] <slash0mega> thanks, but i think ill just pick up some dvd's tomorow
[05:06] <Ryan-in-Sea-Town> hey guys
[05:07] <ObrienDave> greetings, and welcome
[05:08] <Ryan-in-Sea-Town> Thank you!
[09:29] <cousteau> can I set the sound output to mono?  one of my earbuds doesn't work
[09:30] <cousteau> (tried to do this on another PC with Windows 7 and it can't be done; I mostly want to do this to make my Windows friend envious)
[09:32] <cousteau> doesn't seem to be possible graphically
[09:33] <Unit193> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17791/can-i-downmix-stereo-audio-to-mono looks fun in PA. :P
[09:34] <cousteau> so seems to be possible but not GUI-ly
[09:40] <cousteau> re: my one-eared earphones I'll just store them carefully in the garbage bin and get another ones
[11:40] <eva_> hi upgraded my mothers laptop to 13.10 and her keyboard stopped functioning, its ok in BIOS so its not hardware fault. What can i do?
[11:42] <bgardner> eva_: Do you have an external keyboard that you can use to diagnose with?
[11:42] <eva_> bgardner, im using it right now
[11:42] <eva_> external keyboard that it
[11:43] <eva_> Some Tech guy tried to fix it stupid. Now SuperKey does not work on external either.. i have no idea what he done
[11:44] <eva_> i dont want to reinstall the whole os but will if i must
[11:44] <bgardner> eva_: I'd start with dmesg if I were you, then - see if any notes in there about the keyboard.
[11:44] <bgardner> eva_: Go ahead and pastebin it if you would like me to review it with you.
[11:45] <eva_> bgardner, he messed up shortcuts.. ctrl+alt+T opens another window in xchat instead of terminall..gaaah
[11:45] <bgardner> eva_: Yuck.  Okay, separate issues though - we'll start with the keyboard.
[11:46] <eva_> cant copy the text lol
[11:46] <eva_> i get ^C in terminal instead while i ctrl+C
[11:46] <eva_> GAHD
[11:46] <bgardner> In a terminal, use Ctrl-Shift-C
[11:47] <bgardner> Or use the pastebinit command, like this:  dmesg | pastebinit
[11:47] <bgardner> Ctrl-C has a different meaning in a terminal, that's not broken.
[11:48] <eva_> alt+tab is also broken
[11:48] <eva_> he returned her laptop and said" nooop could not fix it but here is an external keyboard" lol
[11:48] <bekks> alt+tab doesnt work in terminal.
[11:48] <eva_> no but switching between windows should
[11:49] <eva_> bgardner, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6381614/
[11:53] <bgardner> eva_: What is the make/model of your laptop?
[11:54] <eva_> lg p1 express dual
[11:55] <eva_> must reboot brb
[11:58] <eva_> bgardner, there
[11:58] <bgardner> eva_: There what?
[12:00] <eva_> http://stevesubuntutweaks.blogspot.se/2013/10/laptop-keyboard-stopped-working-after.html bgardner , will try this
[12:01] <bgardner> eva_: Found a similar thread on ubuntuforums, here is the link for your reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041483
[12:02] <bgardner> eva_: Definitely sounds like you found the solution in that first link, though.
[12:34] <eva_> bgardner, hey, i solved it with the link i sent
[12:35] <eva_> I want my mother to try xfce instead of unity since Unity is a little demaning on her old laptop.. is installing xfce or xubuntu-desktop the best approach?
[12:35] <eva_> approach
[12:35] <eva_> what do you recommend
[12:36] <cfhowlett> eva_, to try xfce just install xfce4.  to give her the full meal deal, xubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <koegs> xfce is plain xfce, xubuntu-desktop ist xfce with all shiny apps and themes
[12:37] <eva_> cfhowlett, yeah. but will i have double of everything or can my ubuntu install co-exist with xubuntu-desktop fine?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> eva_, no doubling and they'll co-exist
[12:38] <eva_> BUT.. won't a lot of unity stuff show up in xubuntu when chose that session?
[12:38] <eva_> Like indicators etc packages installed
[12:39] <cfhowlett> eva_, I did this earlier tonight on the company machine.  unity in only the interface.  the apps will run
[12:39] <eva_> cfhowlett, ah ok! you installed xubuntu-desktop?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> and the non-xfce/xubuntu indicators just won't appear
[12:39] <eva_> awesome
[12:39] <cfhowlett> eva_, no only xfce
[12:39] <eva_> Ah ok...
[12:40] <eva_> Just tell me what to do i can't make up my mind cfhowlett
[12:40] <eva_> lol
[12:41] <cfhowlett> eva_, install xfce4, logout, choose xfce login.  OR skip all that
[12:41] <cfhowlett> logout, choose the openbox? option and log back in.  no unity
[12:41] <eva_> wut
[12:41] <koegs> if you install xfce, it will not look like the screenshot at xubuntu.org, you will have a plain xfce but with all apps coming with ubuntu
[12:42] <eva_> koegs, yes, but if i install xubuntu-desktop will i have two update-managers etc? two network managers runnin etc?
[12:42] <koegs> nope
[12:42] <koegs> both use the same packages, they wont be installed or used twice
[12:42] <eva_> Ah ok.. old issue perhaps i remember i screwed my old system that way
[12:42] <eva_> lots of errors where given
[12:43] <eva_> koegs, so you recommend me to install xubuntu-desktop instead of xfce4? ;)
[12:43] <cfhowlett> eva_, that's one reason I suggest ONLY the DE and not the desktop install
[12:43] <koegs> if you want the full xubuntu-like experience, yes
[12:44] <eva_> cfhowlett, so it could happen?
[12:44] <brainwash> I've installed every single desktop environment on my test system and the xfce and xubuntu sessions run just fine
[12:44] <cfhowlett> eva_, nope, pretty sure as koegs said.
[12:44] <eva_> brainwash, wow.. everyone?
[12:44] <eva_> I will install xubuntu-desktop now. i hope she is not mad by me.. i just want to show her how speedy stuff goes
[12:44] <brainwash> eva_: yes, unity, kde, gnome, lxde, e17, razor-qt,..
[12:44] <eva_> but perhaps i should check out xfce4 first
[12:44] <eva_> brainwash, cool
[12:45] <eva_> see if it runs much smoother
[12:46] <eva_> xfce package is not even in ubuntu software center
[12:46] <cfhowlett> eva_, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[12:46] <eva_> thanks
[12:49] <eva_> comeonnnnn
[12:49] <eva_> oh sorry tought i was in another window
[12:50] <cfhowlett> eva_, might also want to peek at lubuntu/lxde.  same command sequence
[12:51] <eva_> thanks
[12:51] <eva_> sudo apt-get install lxde
[14:19] <xubuntu701> hello
[14:19] <xubuntu701> italian chan please
[14:19] <Sysi> !it
[14:53] <Nepomuk> Hello World. I am new to ubuntu. I installed XUbuntu on my netbook and i am searching a way to see my HDD's. I am searching for 30min now and i can't find it.
[19:04] <jax23> hi genii
[19:05] <jax23> i solved the problem
[19:05] <jax23> i reinstalled the o.s.
[19:06] <jax23> *sigh*
[19:06] <jax23> :-(
[19:07] <genii> jax23: Yes, I figured that was probably the only way, as their support page indicated.
[19:07] <jax23> thanks for your interest
[19:07] <jax23> i think so
[19:08] <jax23> bye bye
[19:13] <genii> jax23: You know where I am if you need assistance another time :)
[20:04] <Nate_> Hello. Could someone please help me with a sound issue?
[20:05] <Nate_> I have recently installed Xubuntu 13;10 and am having the non-functioning sound indicator issue
[20:05] <Nate_> I have tried the fixes listed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[20:05] <Nate_> and here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/xubuntu-1310-sound-indicator-fix.html
[20:05] <Nate_> but neither seems to have worked.
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Nate_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[20:06] <ljunggren> i deleted it from the panel
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Read comment 5
[20:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> then log out and log back in.
[20:07] <Nate_> I tried the fix listed there
[20:07] <Nate_> and I have logged out and back in
[20:07] <Nate_> but it does not work
[20:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then it should be working, unless you have hardware issues.
[20:07] <Nate_> It worked perfectly fine running Ubuntu 13.04
[20:07] <Nate_> as recently as two hours ago
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> I use Ubuntu Studio 13.10
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> Fix works fine.
[20:08] <Nate_> Now, I will mention that logging out and back in seems to be saving my session, despite leaving the check box unchecked
[20:08] <Nate_> So I am wondering if it is not reloading the settings in the way it is supposed to
[20:08] <ljunggren> have you rebooted
[20:08] <ljunggren> just to be sure
[20:08] <Nate_> I have
[20:09] <Nate_> I have ever peformed a complete shutdown
[20:09] <Nate_> *even
[20:09] <ljunggren> a ok
[20:09] <Nate_> It is still saving my session
[20:09] <Nate_> and the sound still is not workin
[20:09] <Nate_> *working
[20:09] <ljunggren> wait
[20:09] <ljunggren> sound is not working?
[20:09] <Nate_> Not at all
[20:09] <ljunggren> at all?
[20:09] <ljunggren> Ah then its another issue
[20:09] <Nate_> I see
[20:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, the fix only fixes the indicator.
[20:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you're having hardware issues, you must resolve them first.
[20:10] <ljunggren> lol
[20:10] <ljunggren> i can't even log out?
[20:10] <ljunggren> press logout and nothing happens
[20:10] <ljunggren> what just happened...
[20:11] <ljunggren> is there a command for loging out
[20:15] <Nate_> OK I'll bite. I don't see a proprietary driver that I might have missed. What else could be causing my sound issue?
[20:18] <Junka> when will xubuntu will official fix the sound indicator?
[20:21] <Nate_> Ah. Got it.
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> What was it?
[20:21] <Nate_> Needed to remove and re-install alsa-pulseaudio apparently
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... weird.
[20:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, as long as you're at full speed
[20:21] <Nate_> sed the first alternate method on this page: http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> so be it
[20:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[20:24] <Nate_> OK, new problem. I am an idiot and removed the indicator icon, and now can't seem to re-add it. It doesn't appear under "add new items" for the panel
[20:24] <Nate_> The volume CAN be changed with the hardware keys
[20:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> the sound indicator isn't a plugin on it's own.
[20:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's appears in the indicator plugin
[20:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> If the indicator plugin is in the panel, it's not the fault of the plugin
[20:26] <Nate_> I restored the indicator, and it brought back network status but not the sound controls
[20:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> might need to log out and in again, since you uninstalled/reinstalled that package.
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... wait
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you reload alsa?
[20:29] <Nate_> yes
[20:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo alsa force-reload?
[20:30] <Nate_> yes
[20:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hmm... Then I dunno.
[20:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> Short of rebooting.
[20:30] <Nate_> is there an alternate volume control I can use?
[20:31] <Nate_> well, I can try rebooting. I'm not chatting on the machine I'm working on
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, do that then.
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> Tell us what happens.
[20:31] <Nate_> will do.
[20:31] <Poisoned_Dragon> I gotta get me some headache pills.
[20:31] <Nate_> Soft reboot or all the way off to all the way back on?
[20:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Try logging out first.
[20:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then worry about going all the way.
[20:34] <Nate_> logging out didn't work
[20:34] <Nate_> Trying a complete power off
[20:35] <Nate_> that didn't work either.
[20:35] <Nate_> Is there an alternate volume control I can try instead?
[20:35] <Nate_> I know it can be changed. The hardware keys for it work fine.
[20:41] <Nate_> OK, I was able to re-inable it in the startup panel
[20:41] <Nate_> the only odd problem is that the icon is black instead of white
[20:43] <Nate_> Also, there is no sound option in settings manager.
[20:45] <Nate_> Close enough for now I guess. Thanks for the help.
[21:04] <ljunggren> It's so boring i get bad UI performance with fgrlx drivers but bad performance in game with opensource drivers
[21:04] <ljunggren> dilema
[21:04] <bekks> So play games more often, or dont play them anymore ;)
[21:04] <ljunggren> yup
[21:05] <ljunggren> something like that
[21:05] <ljunggren> actually im in the wrong channel because on xfce i don't have this issue
[21:05] <ljunggren> lol
[21:07] <ljunggren> sorry
[21:14] <glenrock> what's the recommend way to fix the boot process (plymouth?) after installing the nvidia proprietary drivers?
[21:15] <ljunggren> hey
[21:15] <ljunggren> how do you guys watch movies without screentearing
[21:28] <David-A> ljunggren: maybe there are settings in the graphics driver you can try? maybe you can try different video output method in the media player?
[21:29] <David-A> ljunggren: come back and tell us what media player you used
[21:31] <Junka> parole
[21:40] <ljunggren> i dont know what i have done now.. but my UI is really choppy but i get like 3000fps in glxgears..i use to get 800..
[21:41] <ljunggren> and when put vsync on in amd ccc settings i get 30fps.. i have 60hz screen
[23:11] <winb> :)