[05:28] <spitboxer> meanwhile my video card is a radeon hd4850, i heard the proprietary drivers have  an easy way (easier than xrandr anyway) to fix the overscan
[05:28] <spitboxer> is there a ppa or something for the radeon drivers
[05:38] <valorie> !radeon
[05:38] <valorie> spitboxer: ^^^ could help, maybe
[05:41] <spitboxer> thank you, valorie
[05:41] <valorie> I hope it helps
[05:42] <spitboxer> I dont see the "ubuntu hardware drivers manager" in kubuntu, in fact the default repos after a fresh install dont even have irssi or chromium
[05:42] <spitboxer> of course im kinda new to muon, more used to synaptic/gnome ubuntu
[05:43] <valorie> hmmm, used to be jockey
[05:43] <valorie> but on a clean install, probably not there
[05:43] <spitboxer> ah yes, found it
[05:43] <valorie> !drivers
[05:43] <spitboxer> its there but... will it load? haha
[05:43] <spitboxer> & will i see it
[05:43] <valorie> ok, good
[05:44] <spitboxer> thats the prob, the overscan is like 1" so no top or bottom task bars for me
[05:44] <spitboxer> "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system"
[05:44] <spitboxer> basically jockey's frames are empty
[05:47] <spitboxer> also, the default software sources has everything checked including restricted but im not even seeing other ubuntu stuff in muon, like for instance synaptic, irssi, or chromium
[05:49] <valorie> irssi and chromium are not 'ubuntu stuff'
[05:49] <valorie> I have chromium installed
[05:49] <spitboxer> well, on a default install of ubuntu, they show at least show up on synaptic without having to add more sources, under universe or multiverse IIRC
[05:49] <valorie> it is called 'chromium-browser'
[05:49] <valorie> hmmm
[05:50] <valorie> I never remember adding any repos
[05:50] <spitboxer> yeah
[05:50] <spitboxer> weird
[05:50] <spitboxer> i just did a fresh install like...30 mins ago
[05:50] <valorie> and yes I used to use synaptic
[05:50] <valorie> ok
[05:50] <spitboxer> theres no chromium in muon
[05:51] <valorie> !chromium
[05:51] <spitboxer> in fact, typing "c" shows results, but add an "h" and theres no results. :-?
[05:51] <valorie> huh
[05:51] <valorie> I don't get the daily build
[05:51] <valorie> just plain old chromium
[05:51] <spitboxer> "67,111 packages available, 1576 installed, 0 upgradeable"
[05:52] <spitboxer> and yet muon has no results for the string "ch" ?
[05:52] <spitboxer> i must be doing something wrong - or this is somehow corrupt
[05:52] <valorie> I usually use apt-cache search in the cli
[05:52] <spitboxer> software sources has universe, multiverse and restricted checked
[05:53] <valorie> and irssi and chromium both show
[05:53] <spitboxer> weird
[05:53] <valorie> I wonder if you got an incomplete download or something
[05:54] <spitboxer> hmmm could be, but then, those sources should still populate since they are checked in software sources
[05:54] <valorie> try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:54] <valorie> and then sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[05:55] <valorie> in konsole, or yakuake, or whatever you use
[05:56] <spitboxer> well, apt-get finds chromium-browser easily
[05:56] <valorie> hmmmm
[05:56] <valorie> sounds like muon has a bug
[05:57] <spitboxer> well when i ran dist-upgrade just now it didnt upgrade anything. but earlier when i started muon i marked all upgrades
[05:57] <spitboxer> and applied them
[05:57] <spitboxer> one of which was muon itself
[05:57] <spitboxer> maybe a restart is in order
[05:57] <FloodBotK1> spitboxer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <valorie> only if you are asked to restart, is a restart necessary
[05:58] <spitboxer> i wasnt asked, but mayve the overscan is hiding a notification
[05:58] <valorie> ok
[05:58] <valorie> it never hurts to restart
[05:58] <spitboxer> i can see the very top pixels of the bottom notification area, nothing of any top status bar
[05:58] <spitboxer> indeed
[05:58] <valorie> but I should not be necessary
[05:58] <spitboxer> agreed, but, better a restart than a reinstall :o)
[05:58] <valorie> right
[05:59] <spitboxer> thanks for your help, brb
[06:25] <oary> any way to get the latest nvidia drivers on 13.10?
[06:26] <MangaKaDenza> mebby
[06:26] <MangaKaDenza> I think they're in muon or something
[06:33] <Newfire> oary: : Install the ppa for Xorg-edgers; there you will find the newest nvidia drivers for 13.10.
[06:33] <j_f-f>  /msg NickServ identify 12345667
[06:34] <valorie> j_f-f: don't leave a space in front of your /msg
[06:34] <Newfire> oary: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[06:35] <valorie> !nvidia too
[06:36] <valorie> !nvidia
[06:37] <oary> Newfire: Thanks, installing
[06:37] <valorie> so, good changes, spitboxer?
[06:37] <spitboxer> well, looks like the ISO matches exactly the one on kubuntu.com
[06:37] <spitboxer> so far, none of the package changes are picked up in muon, but synaptic shows them
[06:38] <spitboxer> cant seem to get jockey to recognize the existence of alternate drivers
[06:38] <valorie> please file a bug against muon
[06:38] <spitboxer> that leaves xrandr as the only other method to scale the screen, and i gave up looking for a gui for it, getting ready for bed
[06:39] <valorie> not sure if kscreen would help
[06:39] <spitboxer> i tried ktrayrandr or something to that effect, doesnt do anything i can see
[06:39] <spitboxer> but then it might be on the upper system/notification bar which i cant see
[06:39] <spitboxer> krandrtray maybe
[06:42] <valorie> hmmm, I've not seen any KDE system bar on top
[06:42] <valorie> unless people set it up that way
[06:42] <valorie> maybe drag the bars to the sides until you get the size issue fixed?
[06:42] <spitboxer> well im new to KDE so Im not sure what is in the upper right hand corner
[06:43] <spitboxer> but im not exactly new to unix, linux, or ubuntu
[06:43] <valorie> it's possible that there is a "cashew" which is a button to add stuff to the desktop
[06:43] <valorie> most desktop stuff can be accessed with the context/right-click menu though
[06:44] <valorie> but the cashew will allow you to add applets and such
[06:44] <spitboxer> 'k
[09:08] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:16] <rohan> hi all: any idea when kubuntu 13.10 will get kde 4.11.3?
[09:17] <valorie> rohan: as soon as it hits
[09:17] <valorie> :-)
[09:17] <rohan> valorie: heh, guess i had that coming :)
[09:17] <valorie> seriously, it's in progress until it drops
[09:17] <rohan> well i was just surprised because kubuntu usually is the first or second to get new kde packages
[09:17] <valorie> more packaging help is always welcome!
[09:18] <valorie> I guess the timing wasn't ideal for a lot of individual people
[09:18] <rohan> if i knew how to, i would!
[09:18] <rohan> yes, fair enough
[09:18] <valorie> for the snap your fingers instant we've gotten used to
[09:18] <valorie> rohan: join the devel list and the devel channel and offer to help package
[09:18] <valorie> they will give you a reading list, a task and oversight
[09:19] <valorie> if you have a good head for detail, you can help out a lot
[09:26] <rohan> valorie: thank you, i will do that in the morning.
[09:26] <valorie> :-)
[09:47] <eutheria> hello i have enabled virtual desktops, i would like to stop them wrapping when i hit the last desktop
[09:48] <MangaKaDenza> what do you mean wrapping
[10:16] <lordievader> eutheria: System Settings -> Workspace Behaviour -> Virtual Desktops -> Switching -> Untick "Desktop navigation wraps around"
[10:31] <gregor3000> well this is ridiculous. first i wanted to update and muon updater (old one) had no menues... ok fine i run discoverer and update. now the 3D effects don't work with AMD drivers
[10:31] <gregor3000> it crashes the kwin
[10:31] <gregor3000> what the f?
[10:48] <eutheria> thanks lordievader
[10:49] <eutheria> i do like kde 4 now
[10:53] <gregor3000> i can't install fglrx
[10:54] <gregor3000> it says downloading and installing driver and nothing get's downloaded
[10:55] <lordievader> eutheria: No problem, glad you like KDE ;)
[10:56] <eutheria> i tried out kde 4 when it first came out and found it way too slow and messy
[10:56] <eutheria> but this 4.11 is great
[10:58] <eutheria> not sure i am crazy about the weird glowing shadow
[11:05] <lordievader> eutheria: That is the nice thing about kde, you can customize about everything.
[11:07] <nuves> Hey everybody
[11:08] <nuves> Listen, i have a problem. I have Linux mint on cinnamon. I installed kubuntu-desktop from rep, but my version is 4.11. Is it normal
[11:09] <nuves> is there anyone?
[11:09] <lordievader> nuves: Yes, that is normal.
[11:10] <nuves> But why if there is 4.9 released
[11:10] <lordievader> nuves: 4.11.2 is the newest in the repo.
[11:10] <lordievader> 4.11.3 will probably come soon.
[11:10] <nuves> but on kde.org there is kde 4.9 released
[11:10] <Avihay> 4.11>4.9
[11:11] <Avihay> 4.11>4.9>4.1.1
[11:11] <nuves> thanks i got it
[11:11] <lordievader> Avihay: Wouldn't 4.9 be the beta release of kde5?
[11:12] <lordievader> Avihay: Heard somewhere that they use .9 as beta, not sure if it applies here too.
[11:12] <monkeyjuice> morning
[11:12] <lordievader> Hey monkeyjuice, how are you?
[11:12] <monkeyjuice> good thanks how you doing today
[11:12] <Avihay> no, if you follow planet kde, they said, while it was kde4.9, that kde5 won't happen till atleast kde 4.11, probably 4.12
[11:13] <lordievader> monkeyjuice: Doing ok.
[11:13] <lordievader> Avihay: Ah ok, haven't said a thing. Thanks :)
[11:15] <nuves> people look, i am new in qt programming and i found kde is the best way to get some experience
[11:15] <nuves> but it is hard to change from q to k and back while programming si it normal?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:48] <evilC> STILL having problems getting multi monitor to work (20 hours and counting), anyone around who can help yet?
[13:06] <DarthCodus> everything seems to be working now, I installed proprietary amd drivers
[13:07] <DarthCodus> except for this "system problem detected" dialog box that popped up on login
[13:08] <DarthCodus> clicking on report, nothing. it usually opens up a fialog with backtrace and stuff
[13:20] <lordievader> DarthCodus: Do you have Unity installed? The wording reminds me of times I had Unity installed.
[13:20] <DarthCodus> nope
[13:23] <lordievader> Some GTK application that fails to load?
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> how do I set a custom /etc/hosts file for a specific network
[13:51] <ovidiu-florin> ?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.5/chapter07/hosts.html
[13:57] <evilc> OK, so I have finally got back to where I started 20+ hours ago, and all is almost working. All I have to do now is fix one of my monitors detecting as 1024x768 instead of the correct value of 1280x1024. I can fix using xrandr but it is not persistent. I know you can put the settings in xorg.conf, but mine is empty and I am reticent to just paste any old thing in there in case it all breaks again. Can anyone help?
[15:18] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: that is not what I asked
[15:25] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin. ok
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> I have a problem with my router
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> and I need to set my domain to a local IP when I'm home
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> and disable it everywhere else
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> I need to uncomment/add a line to the /etc/hosts file when home, and remove/comment that line everywhere else
[15:31] <soee> can someone remind me app name to work on translation files ?
[15:31] <Wizard> kbabel?
[15:32] <Wizard> qt translator?
[15:33] <soee> hmm Lokalize i think :)
[15:33] <soee> just found it in moun discover
[15:41] <ovidiu-florin> soee: don't forget about kdesvn
[15:41] <soee> ovidiu-florin, what is it ?
[15:42] <ovidiu-florin> soee: how do you download the translation files?
[15:43] <soee> ovidiu-florin, im working just on a plasmoid translation
[15:43] <soee> so i have its files and im translating  .pot file
[15:43] <soee> than ill just send it to author
[15:44] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[15:45] <ovidiu-florin> then don't minf kdesvn
[15:45] <ovidiu-florin> mind*
[15:45] <soee> :)
[16:17] <dougl> I have install 13.10 but now when I close my notebook the  screen gets locked and when I come back and open it the screen is locked and the keyboard is locked up too - any suggestions?
[16:34]  * ronnoc facepalms
[16:34] <ronnoc> Did the unthinkable noob mistake - make my /home way too small.
[16:40] <lordievader> ronnoc: Fire up a live-cd and enlarge it ;)
[16:44] <ronnoc> lordievader: I'm on it!
[16:45] <ronnoc> last blank DVD on hand so it better not coaster on me lol
[17:04] <DarthCodus> Okay, my freezing issue is not solved
[17:04] <DarthCodus> I just woke my laptop from sleep, and it's frozen
[17:05] <DarthCodus> I can ssh into it
[17:05] <DarthCodus> Can somebody help me with this?
[17:14] <dougl> I have install 13.10 but now when I close my notebook the  screen gets locked and when I come back and open it the screen is locked and the keyboard is locked up too - any suggestions?
[17:14] <dougl> DarthCodus, ^^^
[17:15] <dougl> same problem? mine sleeps after I close the lid...
[17:15] <dougl> do you have another computer to ssh in from?
[17:15] <dougl> I can help you do that but to what end I do not know... we are bournd to learn something :)
[17:20] <DarthCodus> Yep
[17:20] <DarthCodus> Does your notebook have a discrete gpu?
[17:21] <DarthCodus> dougl: ^
[17:23] <dougl> DarthCodus, nvidia... 670m
[17:24] <dougl> anyone know how to change the wallpaper/background to the login screen?
[17:27] <DarthCodus> dougl: mine's got an amd 7730
[17:28] <DarthCodus> And I'm using the beta drivers
[17:29] <dougl> never even thot about the drivers DarthCodus I will blindly go and install nvidia dri vers and see where I end up - thanks
[17:30] <DarthCodus> lol
[17:30] <DarthCodus> Yw
[17:31] <dougl> Lol - what is the worst that can happen... 'sudo rm -rf  /*' maybe that will work?
[17:32] <dougl> Do not try that command... as I did on someones advice years and years ago and is not good!
[17:32] <dougl> lol
[17:35] <soee> dougl, for the login screen background go to System Settings and Login Screen (LighDM)
[17:35] <soee> there you can change background image
[17:36] <dougl> soee... thakns and even thanks...
[17:36]  * dougl dcc's soee goodwill and appreciation
[17:45] <DarthCodus> The sleep issue is gone on the igpu
[18:07] <dougl> Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:07] <dougl>  grub-efi-amd64-signed
[18:07] <dougl>  shim-signed
[18:07] <dougl> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:08] <dougl> what does this mean?
[18:56] <dougl> I get a 404 error from my skype repo... anyone know of a working repo for skype for my 13.10
[20:08] <glenrock> is there a way to control how long the taskbar flashes when a running application has new activity?
[20:49] <dougl> does anyone know how to configure my bluetooth headset for hi fi and not telephony duplex? i keep changing it but it keeps reverting
[21:04] <draikx> With k9copy being EoL'd, is there a new tool to use?
[21:05] <draikx> I installed the last stable package they released, but my desktop tends to quickly fail in the process of ripping my movies to my media server.
[21:07] <dougl> oh no... k9copy done too bad.
[21:07] <dougl> dunno what is next
[21:21] <draikx> I rip whole movies so I can stream them to my phone/tablet, and watch bonus features if I want, too.
[21:21] <draikx> I looked into handbrake, but it doesn't do ISO.
[22:13] <dougl> what do I need the "grub-efi-amd64-signed" package for?/
[22:18] <therazr> dougl: If your machine is running in EFI mode, then that package is needed as the bootloader GRUB for EFI systems
[22:28] <dougl> therazr, thanks
[22:29] <dougl> do you know what the "shim-signed" package is for?
[22:30] <dougl> and  if the errors relating to these packages will resolve themselves or do I need to do some thing...
[22:30] <dougl> is my computer doomed to some impending failure?
[22:30] <dougl> lol
[22:36] <zichichi21> Hi everybody.
[22:36] <chiefw0tj> hi zichichi21
[22:37] <zichichi21> Hello chief :D I am currently on Kubuntu 13.10 and I'm having a problem with creating an access point with my wireless card. Can you help me?
[22:40] <zichichi21> Ok I'll just post my question, see if someone is able to answer. First time I create the AP connection everything works fine and I'm able to connect my phone to my laptop. If I connect to another network, though, the AP connection is not visible anymore in the network widget but it's still among the available connections in the settings panel.
[22:40] <zichichi21> My question is: how do I re-enable the AP mode in the network applet?
[22:41] <zichichi21> Because, as far as I see, there is no way to reconnect to a network from the settings panel.
[22:46] <valorie> zichichi21: when you open that connection, is there no selection to connect there?
[22:48] <zichichi21> no, not in the settings panel
[22:48] <zichichi21> I mean, the panel that comes out when you click "edit connections"
[22:48] <zichichi21> there is no option to connect to a network
[22:53] <valorie> hmmm, that sounds like a bug to me
[23:06] <zichichi21> Seems like this guy had the same problem: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=118245
[23:06] <zichichi21> It works again if I delete all the networks except for the AP one.
[23:13] <valorie> zichichi21: just because someone has written in the forum doesn't mean a bug has been filed
[23:14] <valorie> you can HOPE the devel sees the forum post
[23:14] <valorie> or file a bug and include the forum post in your report, and be assured the devel sees your bugreport
[23:17] <zichichi21> Yes if I can't figure this out until tomorrow I'll do it!
[23:17] <zichichi21> Thanks a lot valorie.
[23:18] <valorie> thank you for helping out
[23:18] <valorie> I know filing bugs is a bit of a pain
[23:18] <valorie> but the devels rely on your feedback, so thanks
[23:20] <zichichi21> No problem, but I have nothing in the kernel's log. It shows something when I add the connection but nothing after.
[23:21] <valorie> that's good info
[23:21] <valorie> be sure to add that
[23:22] <zichichi21> Now I'm only undecided whether to fill a bug to the kde or kubuntu tracker...
[23:24] <zichichi21> Ok I'll use the integrated bug reporter.
[23:24] <valorie> bugs.kde.org I think is the right place
[23:24] <valorie> this isn't a packaging issue
[23:25] <valorie> people on #kde are complaining of the same issues
[23:29] <zichichi21> Oh really?
[23:30] <zichichi21> Ok then, I'll fill the bug there. Thank you!
[23:31] <valorie> yw
[23:32] <bazzzinga> Hiya, Can someone tell me why I keep getting this command in all my idle channels?    [18:27] [Error] LAGTIME.10598468: Unknown command.......... I cant find anywhere to turn it off! It did it with xchat and the same with Konversation? Its drivin me batty!
[23:33] <valorie> bazzzinga: I think you can tell konvi to put that in the server tab, at least
[23:33] <valorie> I never see it
[23:34] <valorie> settings > configure notifications, perhaps
[23:36] <valorie> or settings > configure Konversation > Behavior: connection
[23:36] <bazzzinga> I cant find it anywhere and it just keeps running
[23:37] <bazzzinga> obviously its somekind of lag meter or sumthin in that order
[23:38] <valorie> sure, but mine shows in the bottom stripe
[23:38] <valorie> perhaps try #konversation , where the devels hang out
[23:38] <valorie> they are very helpful
[23:38] <bazzzinga> yeah gonna try now thanks
[23:40] <bazzzinga> no answer yet valorie, its sat nite all the geeks are partying lol
[23:41] <valorie> ok, there is a list as well
[23:41] <valorie> or the kde forum
[23:42] <valorie> they do live all around the world, but as you say, it's Saturday night
[23:45] <bazzzinga> its sumthin to do with my bnc, thats causing it
[23:47] <valorie> there is always lag
[23:47] <valorie> but it should be reported in a calm way
[23:47] <valorie> not in your face
[23:47] <bazzzinga> yeah but I dont want it filling up my screen with a warning every 5 secs
[23:47] <valorie> right now I can see I have lag of 186ms
[23:48] <valorie> down in the right-hand bottom corner
[23:48] <valorie> so it isn't the bnc's problem, it is something about konvi's config
[23:49] <bazzzinga> yeah I see that but this error is coming in the ch screen
[23:49] <valorie> it's not so much an error as just a report
[23:49] <bazzzinga> Im not on the bnc here and its fine, all ch's connected to bnc are doing it so it has to be sumthin with the bnc
[23:50] <valorie> the bnc has lag, because we are connected at less than the speed of light
[23:50] <valorie> but the report of the lag shouldn't be in your channel logs
[23:51] <bazzzinga> I know it has me baffled, Ill tackle my buddy that setup the bnc, Im just a user on it. he will geek it out lol
[23:55] <zichichi21> Bug filled: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327386 (Can't enable AP mode if there are other saved wireless networks) - Please help if you can. Good night (and thank you again valorie!)
[23:56] <valorie> awesome!
[23:56] <valorie> thanks again, zichichi21
[23:56] <zichichi21> It's been a pleasure!