[00:40] <shadeslayer> Launchpad seems down?
[00:40] <shadeslayer> http://isup.me/launchpad.net
[00:52] <eagles0513875> anyreason why LP is down and any other site such as the wiki etc
[00:54] <Pici> eagles0513875: they're working on it
[00:54] <eagles0513875> Pici: did the server explode lol
[00:55] <eagles0513875> its not only launchpad even the wiki is down
[00:55] <Pici> All I know is that Canonical is aware of the problem
[00:55] <eagles0513875> ok :)
[00:55] <eagles0513875> that would potentially mean uk main archive is down as well
[00:58] <vadi> Is Launchpad unavailable for anyone else?
[00:59] <DarkPlayer> vadi: yes
[00:59] <vadi> okay
[01:00] <vidplace7> yeah vadi, RIP launchpad
[01:00] <vidplace7> it must be stored on the same server as the ubuntu community wiki
[01:02] <vidplace7> https://dev.launchpad.net/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[01:04] <vadi> Given how add-apt-repository crashes if the connection times out, I can see a lot of error reports flooding in from this incident
[01:05] <vidplace7> good luck xnox ;)
[01:07] <vadi> Sounds like it is the hosting providers problem
[01:08] <wgrant> We've had a power failure in one of our datacentres. Not entirely sure of the details yet.
[01:09] <vidplace7> good to know it's not some massive DDoS :) hope it's resolved soon
[01:16] <cr3> ah, topic answered my question. bbl :)
[01:16] <xnox> "the incoming electrical supply is considered to be one of the most resilient available to any infrastructure within the UK"
[01:16] <xnox> well, i guess everyone should just have a cup of tea and wait =)
[01:17] <vadi> where'd you read that?
[01:36] <xnox> http://www.globalswitch.com/locations/london-data-center/
[01:43] <Fahrertuer> got an ETAon LP being back up and running?
[01:44] <stgraber> no ETA, the DC lost power, someone is heading there now will be back as soon as possible
[01:45] <Fahrertuer> THX. good luck with bringing it back online.
[01:48] <cprofitt> stgraber: brings back memories for two weeks ago for me when my storage system had multiple disk failures...
[01:48] <cprofitt> took me 8 hours to restore service, but no data was lost
[01:50] <Fahrertuer> sounds like that recurring nightmare I have
[01:51] <Fahrertuer> (although that refers to that messed up PBX system at work)
[01:57] <pirret> hi..launchpad seems to be down
[01:57] <pirret> unless it's just me
[01:57] <pirret> ah sorry, topic..
[01:59] <cprofitt> pirret: its ok... many people have been asking...
[02:00] <czajkowski> please see the topic :)and subscribe to https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[02:18] <julian____> Hi all. Is there a mirror
[02:48] <pirret> argh
[02:48] <pirret> still down :S
[02:48] <pirret> bad datacenter
[02:49] <pirret> just when i started to install new ubuntu box launchpad goes down, my luck
[02:49] <pirret> oh but it is up now!
[02:49] <pirret> no one updated twitter
[02:50] <chilicuil> lol
[02:52] <wgrant> It's sort of up :)
[02:52] <wgrant> Some bits and pieces are still not quit working.
[02:52] <wgrant> s/quit/quite/
[02:53] <FLeiXiuS> PPA noooo
[02:53] <pirret> mmh isee
[02:54] <FLeiXiuS> i need ppa's!!!!
[02:54] <FLeiXiuS> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[03:00] <TheLordOfTime> wgrant: I take it from FLeiXiuS's statements that PPAs are still down?
[03:01] <wgrant> TheLordOfTime: Yes, they're not quite back yet.
[03:01] <czajkowski> if you keep poking it, it won't come back to life properly :p FACT :)
[03:01] <TheLordOfTime> czajkowski: purely curious is all
[03:02] <TheLordOfTime> because luckily i got what i needed from my PPAs *BEFORE* the datacenter broke xD
[03:02] <czajkowski> sure sure
[03:02] <TheLordOfTime> (people are emailing me asking why the nginx team's PPAs are not working though :/)
[03:03] <TheLordOfTime> i assume still no ETA on fully operational?
[03:03] <wgrant> Very Soon™
[03:03]  * TheLordOfTime didn't see anything on @launchpadstatus
[03:03] <TheLordOfTime> wgrant: so basically, "No, not really"
[03:03] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[03:04] <czajkowski> TheLordOfTime: point them at lp status on twitter and to book mark it
[03:04] <czajkowski> honestly when it's up it's up and everyone does tend to work that out pretty fast
[03:04] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[03:06] <vidplace7> so it's like 1/2 up
[03:06] <vidplace7> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/138742143/winusb_1.0.11%2Braring1_amd64.deb for instance, wont download
[03:35] <techplex> Is launchpad not working for more than me?
[03:36] <McMah0n> see topic
[03:40] <heraclitus> anyone else unable to connect to https://launchpad.net ?
[03:41] <chilicuil> heraclitus: launchpad is down due to a datacenter issue
[03:41] <heraclitus> ahh okay, thanks :)
[03:41] <PJAMA> Ah, that's why I haven't been able to update elementary OS lately? Thanks!
[03:41] <heraclitus> hope it gets fixed soon, who ever is working on it :)
[03:41] <ioldanach> no eta, I presume?
[03:42] <chilicuil> yep, no eta so far
[03:42] <heraclitus> sorry to hear about the issues, never fun.
[03:42] <ioldanach> ok.  friday night, and all, I'm sure everyone's doing their best
[03:42] <PJAMA> We'll just have to wait until tomorrow to update. Goodnight Everyone.
[03:42] <heraclitus> good night PJAMA
[03:45] <phyphor> AH, guess the topic explains why I can't add certain PPAs!
[03:48]  * phyphor slips out quietly
[03:53] <coderpete> code.launchpad.net appears to be down. http://screencapture.objects.dreamhost.com/201311/08195134_7095.png
[03:53] <esde> !topic
[03:55]  * coderpete was trying to download the latest stable duplicity tarball
[03:55] <coderpete> anyone here that can help?
[03:56] <wgrant> coderpete: See the topic. There's a power failure in one of our datacentres, and we're working to get things back up.
[03:56] <Noskcaj> coderpete, all of launchpad is down, please read the topic
[03:57] <esde> !topic | esde
[03:58] <coderpete> right.  thanks Noskcaj I'll check back in a bit.
[03:59] <excalibr> launchpad is being ddosed?
[03:59] <esde> !topic | excalibr
[03:59] <wgrant> No, unless DDoSers managed to take out some of our power feeds :)
[03:59] <esde> power issues
[04:02] <excalibr> uhm
[04:04] <Logan_> It looks like we're back in business.
[04:04] <stgraber> not really
[04:04] <stgraber> launchpad.net works but quite a bit of backend infrastructure doesn't
[04:05] <stgraber> including a good chunk of the PPA infrastructure and Ubuntu's ftpmaster
[04:05] <Logan_> Please disregard that, then. :P
[04:16] <rickhull1> i can reach https://launchpad.net now  :)
[04:16] <rickhull1> might wanna update https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus  ?
[04:17] <esde> ppa still down
[04:17] <dragon36> looks like ppa is still down
[04:25] <wgrant> Codehosting, PPAs, the librarian and various other services are still down.
[04:26] <TheLordOfTime> wgrant: i was just about to tweet to @launchpadstatus (not post, but send a tweet myself with the @ target) saying that some things seem partially up, perhaps someone should update @launchpadstatus about the partial-restoration of services?
[04:29] <pdffs> there's really no point updating the status until all the backend services return
[04:30] <pirret> what is taking so long :S
[04:45] <rickhull1> imho, worth a status update to say that http is back, auth services are back, etc.
[04:45] <rickhull1> personally, i care because openstack.org uses launchpad for auth
[04:45] <rickhull1> so i would have liked to know, from statusupdate, that auth is back
[04:46] <rickhull1> without polling stuff myself
[04:46] <pirret> did zunami hit the datacenter or why ppa still down after 3 hours?
[04:47] <TheLordOfTime> pirret: because it probably takes a while to bring a lot of backend services back up, you need to have patience
[04:47] <wgrant> Electricity also helps :)
[04:48] <wgrant> There's a misconfiguration in the power feeds to some of our cabinets, which means that our dual-feed supplies to some hosts aren't working with one of the feeds failed.
[04:48] <wgrant> A few hosts are still down.
[05:07] <PJAMA> PPA servers still down?
[05:08] <stgraber> the buildd-manager needs a restart at least and it's not yet clear how many of the builders are reachable, so yeah, more urgent things to fix first
[05:14] <jeffrey_f> Trying to add my private key to Launchpad.  Although I can find my PubKey on the hkp ubuntu server by email, I can't find it by fingerprint.  Any ideas?
[05:16] <wgrant> jeffrey_f: Which fingerprint are you trying?
[05:16] <jeffrey_f> 4C69 9D45 A24B 3BD0 2AF4  8BA0 6097 40B9 12A4 5CAB
[05:17] <wgrant> And what's the email address?
[05:17] <jeffrey_f> jflaker@gmail.com
[05:19] <wgrant> jeffrey_f: I see that key when I search for 0x4C699D45A24B3BD02AF48BA0609740B912A45CAB
[05:19] <wgrant> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4C699D45A24B3BD02AF48BA0609740B912A45CAB&fingerprint=on
[05:20] <jeffrey_f> Yes, but launchpad is saying it can't import the key
[05:33] <jeffrey_f> any news?
[05:34] <stgraber> the server in the critical path for GPG is booting up now
[05:34] <jeffrey_f> OK
[05:34] <wgrant> And PPAs and codehosting are mostly back.
[05:48] <jeffrey_f> how long does that usually take, just curious
[05:50] <wgrant> jeffrey_f: There's no "usually", unfortunately; we're routing power between cabinets to get the remaining servers re-powered.
[05:51] <jeffrey_f> ah.  So I should try in the morning then?
[05:51] <rickhull1> my guess is booting servers that have had power restored takes a few minutes.  verification, undoing previous triage things, re-establishing clusters, shared storage, discovering faults in less-than-critical-paths — these things can take hours
[05:51] <jeffrey_f> Yep, I'll try in the AM.  Thanks!
[05:52] <wgrant> There's only a couple of bits left still broken, but it's not clear how long those will take.
[05:53] <jeffrey_f> ok.  Thanks for the help!
[08:04] <arun> hi guys , I wanted to host my codes in launchpad , how can I do that ??
[08:25] <arun_> hello guys , anyone there ., please help me for adding my codes in Launchpad !!!
[08:25] <arun_> ajmitch: hello !!!
[08:27] <StevenK> arun_: I suggest you read the topic, we can't help you right now, due to it.
[08:27] <arun_> StevenK: oh sorry bro
[08:34] <rickhull1> arun_: https://code.launchpad.net/     but there was a recent outage and not all services may be up
[08:37] <arun_> wgrant: good to hear
[08:38] <arun_> rickhull1: so, how do a do ???
[08:38] <arun_> rickhull1: please help me
[08:38] <rickhull1> 1. now is a particularly bad time, because things may not be working normally
[08:38] <rickhull1> 2. check the docs
[08:39] <rickhull1> personally, i've never been involved in code hosting with launchpad
[08:39] <rickhull1> arun_: are you familiar with github?
[08:40] <arun_> rickhull1: yes , I have github repo , and I am wanting to translate my software into other languages !!!, so. please help me
[08:40] <rickhull1> according to https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus  things should be working normally now
[08:41] <rickhull1> arun_: ok, well the choice of hosting on launchpad or github has nothing to do with the software language
[08:41] <arun_> rickhull1: I mean, I wanted to localize my software
[08:41] <rickhull1> gotcha
[08:42] <rickhull1> that seems like a completely separate problem from where to host your software
[08:43] <arun_> rickhull1: yaa., the main thing is to localize or translate my software !!!
[08:44] <rickhull1> it's a tough problem, for sure
[08:44] <rickhull1> i don't see how hosting your code on launchpad versus anywhere else accomplishes that goal
[08:49] <arun_> rickhull1: lol, so any ways for the localization
[08:50] <rickhull1> i might be misunderstanding the power of launchpad code hosting, but i think it's something that needs to be worked out in the code, not the hosting
[08:52] <wgrant> arun_: Have you read through https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject?
[08:52] <wgrant> You don't have to use Launchpad Codehosting to use Launchpad Translations.
[08:52] <wgrant> You can upload translation templates directly.
[08:52] <wgrant> But you first need to have translation support in your code.
[08:56] <arun_> wgrant: yaa, I have the pot file
[08:56] <arun_> wgrant: so , whats the next ??
[08:57] <wgrant> arun_: https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/ImportingTemplates
[09:01] <arun_> wgrant: bro, I can't figure out there is no for pot , there is only git, bazaar, ...,etc
[09:01] <wgrant> arun_: Where are you looking
[09:01] <wgrant> ?
[09:01] <arun_> wgrant: where u told
[09:02] <wgrant> "or manually upload .pot files using the web interface. "
[09:03] <wgrant> click the Translations tab on your project, then select a series. You'll see an option in the bottom right to upload a file directly.
[09:04] <arun_> wgrant: bro manual synchronize?]
[09:05] <wgrant> arun_: That's the one
[09:06] <arun_> wgrant: ok , I am downloading that file from my git repo
[09:20] <arun_> wgrant: I just uploaded but there is no data in the translations page inside my branch
[09:21] <wgrant> arun_: Which project is this?
[09:21] <arun_> launchpad.net/chitwanix/sagarmatha
[09:23] <wgrant> arun_: I've approved the template import, so it should happen in a few minutes. You can see the status of your imports at https://translations.launchpad.net/chitwanix/sagarmatha/+imports
[09:24] <arun_> wgrant: thank u very much, but the language I am going to translate into is Tharu not Nepali
[09:27] <wgrant> arun_: Chitwania Tharu aka. 'the'?
[09:28] <arun_> wgrant: I can't understand what u are saying
[09:29] <wgrant> arun_: Tharu is a family of languages with several dialects, each with a distinct language code.
[09:29] <wgrant> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/23 describes the process for adding a new language to Launchpad
[09:29] <arun_> wgrant: og
[09:32] <arun_> wgrant: brother, the lanuage is related to Nepali with the writing letters same as Nepali but the Name must be Tharu
[09:33] <arun_> wgrant: so, we need to get verified for an ISO
[09:39] <wgrant> arun_: There are already ISO 639-3 codes for several Tharu languages
[09:39] <wgrant> See the bottom right of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tharu_language
[09:40] <arun_> wgrant: oh yaa, so, how can I get that , its Chitwania
[09:40] <wgrant> So http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=the?
[09:44] <arun_> wgrant: bro, then how do I add the language in launchpad??
[09:44] <arun_> wgrant: should I ask in the answer page or what? please give me some idea
[09:45] <wgrant> arun_: You'll need to ask a question on Launchpad Answers, including the language code and plural form information as described at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/23
[09:45] <arun_> wgrant: ok
[09:46] <excalibr> is it not possible to make your ppa only available to you?
[09:47] <wgrant> excalibr: Private PPAs are a commercial feature.
[09:47] <excalibr> oh i see. then what is that "publish" option in ppa
[09:48] <excalibr> ppa page*
[09:49] <wgrant> It's not useful to you unless you already know why you need to use it. It prevents the packages from being published to ppa.launchpad.net where apt can see them.
[09:49] <wgrant> The PPA remains public on the launchpad.net web UI.
[09:52] <arun_> wgrant: will be verified soon ?
[09:53] <wgrant> arun_: You need to provide plural form information before we can set up the language. Have you read through https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/PluralForms?
[09:55] <arun_> wgrant: I really didn't understand that , sorry, please help me !!!
[09:57] <wgrant> arun_: What didn't you understand about that page?
[09:57] <arun_> wgrant: the plural thing, 2 for English ?? what that means??
[09:58] <wgrant> arun_: In English I say "0 apples, 1 apple, 2 apples, 3 apples, [...]". That means there's two plural forms: one for a single object, and one for every other number of objects.
[09:59] <wgrant> We need to know the plural forms for a language so we know what to ask for when translating a plural string.
[10:00] <arun_> wgrant: oh thanks bro
[10:03] <arun_> wgrant: oh there are 2
[10:03] <arun_> wgrant: bro, submitted
[10:15] <eLBati> any known issue with MPs? https://code.launchpad.net/~agilebg/account-payment/adding_account_due_list_7/+merge/182330
[10:17] <wgrant> eLBati: Sorry about that, it's a bit of remaining fallout from the datacentre power failure we suffered a few hours ago. Fixing.
[10:17] <wgrant> Hopefully just a few minutes.
[10:17] <eLBati> thanks wgrant
[10:19] <wgrant> eLBati: Should work now.
[10:19] <eLBati> wgrant, it does
[10:19] <eLBati> tnx
[10:26] <arrun> wgrant: hello again
[10:26] <wgrant> arrun: Hi. I noticed that you provided the number of plural forms, but we also need to know the rules which determine the form to use.
[10:27] <wgrant> For English the plural expression is 'n != 1', because one form is used for the case of 1 object, and the other form is used for every other case.
[10:27] <arrun> wgrant: bro , its same as of the English
[10:31] <arrun> wgrant: I c that, the thing is not been observed by the guys what I posted
[10:31] <wgrant> arrun: I don't understand what you mean by that last bit.
[10:31] <arrun> wgrant: I mean , the post is not been replied by the guys !!!
[10:32] <wgrant> arrun: Things normally get replied to within a day or so, except on weekends. But I'm creating the language for you now.
[10:32] <arrun> wgrant: oh Thank you very much !!!
[10:33] <wgrant> arrun: Is it spoken in India, Nepal, or both?
[10:33] <arrun> wgrant: in Nepal
[10:34] <wgrant> And it's written left-to-right? From what I can see it uses Devanagari.
[10:35] <arrun> wgrant: yup left to right
[10:36] <wgrant> arrun: https://translations.launchpad.net/chitwanix/sagarmatha/+pots/sagarmatha/the/+translate
[10:36] <wgrant> https://translations.launchpad.net/+languages/the
[10:36] <arrun> wgrant: oh yaa, Thank You bro very very much
[10:37] <wgrant> arrun: No worries. If you have any issues, ask here or on Launchpad Answers and we'll sort it out.
[10:38] <arrun> wgrant: bro, but I am unable to add the strings  !!!
[10:38] <wgrant> arrun: What happens when you try?
[10:38] <arrun> there is writthen no translation yet
[10:39] <wgrant> arrun: Ah, you have your translation permissions set to Restricted, which means that only members of the translation group for your language can make changes to the translation.
[10:39] <arrun> wgrant: yaa , but I am the4 owner of it , isn't it
[10:41] <wgrant> arrun: I'd suggest changing your policy to Open or Structured at https://translations.launchpad.net/chitwanix/+configure-translations
[10:41] <wgrant> Open means that anybody can change any translation
[10:41] <arrun> ok
[10:41] <arrun> wgrant: but some freaks may change it to jpt also
[10:42] <wgrant> Structured means that anyone can make suggestions, and any member of the relevant translation group can change the translation. If there's no translation group set up for that language, anyone can make changes.
[10:42] <wgrant> I'd recommend Structured for now; you can change it later if you run into trouble.
[10:43] <arrun> wgrant: bro, and can we be the translation group :)
[10:45] <arrun> wallyworld_:  yes structured worked
[10:46] <wgrant> arrun: If you want to use Restricted, you'll need to create an lp-l10n-the team and get it set up in the Launchpad Translators group, but I'd suggest continuing with Structured unless you see a problem.
[10:46] <wgrant> It keeps the overhead low for new languages with few contributors.
[10:46] <arrun> wgrant: ok bro
[14:19] <arrun> wgrant: hello bro, I had a thing to do, how can I add a person for translation stuffs
[14:29] <arrun> wgrant: are u there?
[15:42] <nik90> hey can you guys help me merge a branch into a project.
[15:42] <nik90> I just created a new project
[15:42] <nik90> and I did a bzr init on a folder and commited files
[15:42] <nik90> https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/cliffhanger/trunk/+merge/194622
[15:43] <nik90> now I am not sure how to merge this branch into the lp:cliffhanger branch
[15:43] <nik90> I did bzr merge lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/trunk
[15:43] <nik90> but I get a message "nothing to do"
[15:45] <cjwatson> If you initialise a branch from scratch then you can't merge it into other branches
[15:45] <cjwatson> If you wanted to merge it into lp:cliffhanger, then you should have started by "bzr branch lp:cliffhanger name-of-your-branch"
[15:46] <cjwatson> Also, "bzr merge lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/trunk" operates on your current working tree, so if you're in lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/trunk already then it's a no-op
[15:48] <nik90> my new project does not have a trunk branch yet
[15:48] <nik90> how do I initiate it?
[15:49] <cjwatson> lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/trunk-1 appears to exist, so push to it
[15:49] <nik90> it does but it is incorrect since I dont want my username attached to it
[15:49] <nik90> I like it to be just lp:cliffhanger
[15:50] <nik90> or am I being completely wrong here
[15:50] <cjwatson> It can't be *just* lp:cliffhanger, although that alias can certainly exist; there always has to be a canonical name of the form lp:~OWNER/PROJECT/BRANCH-NAME
[15:50] <cjwatson> So you can either have OWNER there be nik90, or a team
[15:50] <nik90> ah okay
[15:51] <cjwatson> Have you read through https://help.launchpad.net/Code and the various pages following it?
[15:51] <cjwatson> e.g. https://help.launchpad.net/Code/TeamBranches
[15:51] <nik90> cjwatson: I am familiar with pushing/editing branches..just wasn't sure where to find documentation on initiating a new project
[15:54] <cjwatson> Basically you just push a branch with your preferred ownership (yourself or a team) and some name like "trunk", and then set the development focus of the project to that branch.
[15:55] <cjwatson> You don't want to merge.
[15:55] <nik90> I understand better now. I created a team and push it to lp:~cliffhanger-dev/cliffhanger/trunk and set that as my developement trunk
[15:56] <nik90> now I can merge to that branch if required
[15:57] <cjwatson> But for the initial push you should just push to it, not merge.
[15:57] <nik90> yeah
[15:57] <nik90> so lets say I branch a new one by bzr branch lp:cliffhanger branch-name-here
[15:57] <nik90> and I push it to lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/branch-name
[15:57] <nik90> how do I merge this into trunk?
[15:58] <nik90> after a review process/
[16:01] <cjwatson> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
[16:01] <cjwatson> which links to http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/merging_changes.html
[16:01] <nik90> thnx
[16:02] <cjwatson> It's easiest if you're working in a checkout (i.e. "bzr checkout lp:cliffhanger"), in which case it's just "bzr merge lp:~nik90/cliffhanger/branch-name", resolve any conflicts, commit with some appropriate message
[16:02] <cjwatson> If you're in an unbound branch ("bzr branch lp:cliffhanger"), then you also have to "bzr push" back to lp:cliffhanger at the end
[16:04] <nik90> this is a single person team now. So mergeing into trunk directly would be okay
[16:04] <nik90> but I still want to create a review and then push to trunk where possible for best practices
[16:08] <cjwatson> And the commands I just gave you are what you'd use for the post-merge review
[16:08] <cjwatson> Er, the post-review merge
[16:10] <nik90> ah okay.. so I checkout the trunk branch, merge the branch under review and then commit it
[16:11] <nik90> I am used to jenkins bot doing the merge for me in the clock app :P
[16:11] <nik90> that you forget the basics
[16:28] <cjwatson> Right.
[16:31] <ryanakca> Is there a way to stop receiving PPA related messages for teams you belong to?
[17:41] <skellat> Is anybody around who can assist with [Launchpad Feedback #40137] perhaps?
[20:07] <theleft> any reason why i should still be getting three signature failures on my ppas?
[20:07] <theleft> three ppas that is
[20:08] <theleft> the problem started when launchpad went down, they were all fine before that
[22:23] <ozzy_> hello i need help, i can't create a package withing a PPA, the error is bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.BzrCommandError: Failed to apply quilt patches, anybody knows how to solve it?