=== lukjad is now known as Guest84937 === Guest84937 is now known as lukjad [18:07] salut à tou(te)s, j'aimerai acheter un PC sans OS, je suis nouvel arrivant au Québec. Y aurait il un magasin ou un site qui permet d'acheter ou de se monter son propre PC sans OS ?? [18:08] merci de votre réponse ! [18:08] ps : je suis actuellement à Montréal :) [18:09] hmm... [18:10] je pense il coute plus cher d'acheter un PC "customized" [18:10] laptop, dektop? [18:11] sorry for my bad french. am not born here [18:11] no probleme i can speak english [18:12] but i m afraid it may be wors than your french :) [18:12] it would be a desktop PC, maybe a mini-pc [18:13] but no rasperry? [18:13] i don't know but i m looking for a place where you can make and / or custumize your own pc [18:13] one with keyboard, may be monitor [18:13] no raspberry ;) [18:13] ok [18:13] where are you from? [18:14] I'm from france, but i live in Montreal since 3 weeks, and i'll stay permanently [18:15] anyway, there are three big retailers. one dumber than the other. futureshop, bestbuy and staples [18:15] staples you might know from france [18:15] called "buereau en gros" here because they rename everthing french. not even people in france do this [18:16] ha ok... I know FShop (not very great :( ) and i heard about BBuy... i ll try staples [18:16] you probably get cheaper PCs there. then delete windows or split the hard drive and install linux [18:16] Best Buy worse than futureshop [18:16] yep... :( [18:16] what a shame [18:16] staples is probably the best of the three [18:17] then there are online retailers. http://www.tigerdirect.ca for example [18:17] we have to pay for a product that we won't use (windows :( ) [18:17] yes, but because thePCs are often very cheap it's still cheaper than customizing your own computer [18:18] of course hardware on these cheap PCs is cheap (budget class usually) [18:18] if you want good hardware you have to customize yourself [18:18] there is another channel here. may be there are more people who know stores here where you can do this [18:19] thancks for your answers ! [18:19] first time in this IRC [18:19] can you see the invitation? [18:19] no x_x [18:20] if not type "/join #linux-quebec" [18:20] oh, it's empty there too [18:20] where u from ? [18:21] germany [18:21] am here since almost 10 years now [18:22] was a few months in france before i came here [18:22] Ok ! nice in Montréal ? [18:22] sorry don't spragen zi deutsc X_o [18:23] no problem [18:24] didn't speak german myself since a long time [18:24] usually you get away with english everywhere. also some quebecois don't like that [18:27] even if i come frome France, i can understand that ... historically ... I need to practice my english... thancks for your support :D I'd like to find a GNU/Linux group (IRL) Thancks IXQuick i got some unswers :) did you join one ? [18:28] tigerdirect.ca is only in english... :( i'll send a message to the webmaster :B [18:29] eh, should be french too [18:30] oh, cannot find it [18:30] neither do I :( [18:31] your distrib is ubuntu ? [18:31] don't buy there then [18:31] i had. now debian [18:31] first i used here was mandriva [18:32] bought a french magazine on Rue St. Catherine here with a CD on it [18:32] under debian7.0 testing to :p with some packages under sid :D [18:32] then i had ubuntu on my server [18:32] same here [18:32] testing and some sid in it [18:32] say do you have thunderbird (icedove) with enigmail installed? [18:33] there is currently a dependency problem since weeks [18:33] yes icedove with pgp :) [18:33] ho ?? [18:33] and i fear they gave up on enigmail [18:34] it might depend on the spanish version i also have installed. put all on hold not to lose enigmail [18:34] i ve got enigmail 1.6 and can send crypt and signed messages [18:34] arf did you try to remove spanish packages ? [18:34] no [18:35] the main icedove package is also listed [18:36] it's a stable version of enigmail ? [18:36] or icedove [18:36] i guess so [18:36] 10.0.12-1 [18:38] strange... my policy : icedove: Installé : 17.0.9-2 Candidat : 17.0.9-2 [18:40] did you post your probleme on a forum ? [18:40] not yet [18:41] mmmmmm I'd like to read it if you don't matter [18:41] (when you'll post it) [18:42] i usually post in german usenet groups [18:42] arf ok ^^ [18:42] but this issue is not important. i use mutt as my main mailer [18:42] ha ok ^^ [18:42] enigmail here is 2:1.4.1-2 [18:43] trying to get more people in here which might be able to help you [18:45] http://ncix.com might help too. but no french page either. they are from the USA :-) [18:47] and may be http://microbytes.com having french page and local stores in montreal [18:50] thancks that great ! i'll go to see there... if you're in the mood of posting in french : https://www.debian-fr.org/support-debian.html [18:50] :D [18:50] and http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mozilla.enigmail.general/17989 for my icedove problem [18:50] known problem. they gave up on enigmail;l it seems [18:52] ah [18:52] thunderbird's enigmail got fixed. might just be a matter of time until icedove is also fixed [18:52] Oh ? [18:52] so at ubuntu you don't have this problem [18:52] no of corse :D [18:52] yes, all in the page i posted above [18:53] ubuntu is patched to be very stable [18:53] even his "testing" is very stable ! [18:54] ok [18:55] how long are you in montreal? and where are you from in france if i may ask? [18:57] after, those who want to learn GNU / Linux will love to have "surprises" every update is a mystake... :) It's a choice [18:57] I'm from Paris [18:57] I'm a resident, permanentl [18:57] so i can stay here all my life if i want :) [19:00] young resident... who is looking for a job :D [19:00] what about U ? [19:03] cool [19:04] from mannheim in germany [19:10] I'll have to leave :) [19:10] Have a nice day and hope that yoour probleme will be solved [19:10] thancks for your answers !