[00:52] <belkinsa> LP is down
[02:04] <skellat> belkinsa: "The topic for #canonical-sysadmin is: Known issues: DC power failure - remote hands en route | Vanguard: None at present; please use RT | Although we idle here, please mail requests to rt@ubuntu.com"
[02:05] <belkinsa> I kbow
[04:57] <skellat> Notez Bien: There may be a last minute agenda change for tomorrow night's meeting where I open with a statement.  I haven't decided yet.
[19:40] <Unit193> Oh heh, forgot about the thing today. :D
[19:40] <Unit193> cid420_: Howdy again!
[20:37] <skellat> Unit193: Meeting at 8 PM
[20:37] <Unit193> Yep, that one.
[20:37] <Unit193> skellat: cid420_ is looking to join the LP page, you spoken to him yet?
[20:38] <skellat> Possibly not...between running an election this week and then having to write up an outright analysis of the results I might have missed that
[20:41] <skellat> cid420_: To join Ubuntu Ohio you need to sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.  A screencast showing how to do so can be found at http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC and if you are running 13.10 or later the package "code-of-conduct-signing-assistant" can walk you through that.  Once that is done please e-mail me and I will move you from Proposed to Approved.
[20:41] <jenni> [ How To Sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct | Ubuntu Screencasts ] - https://j.mp/1gzhCwn
[20:42] <Unit193> skellat: Email or ping here?
[20:42] <skellat> E-mail is best
[20:44]  * skellat goes to check his tea kettle on the stove
[20:45] <skellat> Alrighty
[20:46] <skellat> Still wondering what to do with this: http://benjaminkerensa.com/2013/11/09/ubuntu-foundation
[20:46] <jenni> [ Ubuntu Foundation - Benjamin Kerensa dot Com ] - https://j.mp/1gzi4Le
[20:47] <belkinsa> Did we gain a new member?
[20:47] <Unit193> 3 pending, 1 is here.
[20:47] <belkinsa> Oh good, we need more fresh meat.
[20:48] <Unit193> Eh, I think the concept is somewhat dead.
[20:49] <belkinsa> For the team?  yeah, I think so.
[20:49] <skellat> Which concept?
[20:49] <Unit193> I still wonder where some of the poeple went when I first joined.
[20:49] <belkinsa> How long ago was that?
[20:50] <Unit193> 2008, IIRC.
[20:50] <Unit193> Left for a bit.
[20:50] <belkinsa> I joined in 2009, and left for two years.  Now I'm back
[20:51] <belkinsa> And with more action then before.
[20:51] <skellat> Started out in Nevada, spent some time in openSUSE country, came back once after I returned to Ohio in 2009
[20:52] <Unit193> I think mine was back in 2010.
[20:53] <belkinsa> Ubuntu was my first Linux ditrso that I used in 2009, but knew about Linux maybe a few years before from a Take your Child to Work Day at P&G.
[20:53] <skellat> I tried Mandriva first
[20:53] <Unit193> Actually, may have to make that earlier than 2008?
[20:56] <skellat> Unit193: Your current pseudonym only joined Ubuntu Ohio in 2011.  You were known by a different name & account prior to then.
[20:57] <Unit193> Nope.
[20:57] <Unit193> I didn't do LP, doesn't mean I wasn't here.
[20:57] <paultag> Heh, yeah, I used Mandrake since 2001
[20:58] <paultag> until I switched to Gentoo, Fedora, Debian Ubuntu and now Debian again
[20:59] <skellat> I had a hurried phone chat with Aaron Toponce last night
[20:59] <belkinsa> What did you guys talk about?
[21:01] <skellat> Thankfully Launchpad was down when his intention were stated in his blog.  He happened to be a team owner for some LoCo assets.  We had to discuss getting those switched around so things didn't break.  The worst case scenario we had to avoid was LoCo Council owning a team yet again and it looks like we did.
[21:02] <skellat> I did bid him "fair winds and calm seas" in whatever his new adventures may bring.
[21:03] <belkinsa> Ah.  I read his last post in his blog and  that's what got me to look into the issue.
[21:03] <belkinsa> That retweet was the second.
[21:03] <skellat> Yeah, I mostly wished him well and just tried to ensure a clean transition as he made his exit.
[21:04] <Unit193> He has done things about irssi, so been to his blog a few times.
[21:06] <belkinsa> That's good that you did that, because I feel like I'm going through one but I'm not a Ubuntu member.  I just want to say with the community since I'm dong thing in it to help others who need the help.
[21:06] <Unit193> The flavors aren't total crap, yet, so I'm still here for now and helping out.
[21:07] <skellat> Bhavani Shankar and I discussed this earlier
[21:07] <paultag> I just help the 73% of the OS that no Ubuntu'er even touches :>
[21:07] <belkinsa> Who?
[21:07] <skellat> A fellow member of LoCo Council
[21:07] <belkinsa> Ah.
[21:07] <skellat> paultag: Give Jackson Doak time... :-)
[21:07] <Unit193> paultag: Best part, when they fix and forget so whatever bit is olllllld and outdated. :D
[21:08] <paultag> mm, we can always remove stuff too
[21:08] <Unit193> paultag: Oh, and read the rest of the tc license, it's interesting. 0_o
[21:08] <paultag> Unit193: what's going on there
[21:08] <belkinsa> But I thought some of us may be over reacting.
[21:09] <Unit193> I.3 and I.4, III.1.a, VI.5 and VI.6:  That seems to say to me, that you can't even use patches without renameing it, and not even saying "This is a fork of Truecrypt".  It also appears to say that if you don't think you understand the license, you can't use it.
[21:09] <skellat> Unit193: There has been a **nasty** discussion on license-discuss about that monstrosity
[21:09] <Unit193> paultag: This is why I don't dabble, Im bad at it.
[21:09] <Unit193> I'm.
[21:10] <Unit193> paultag: Also, trying to use git more. \o/  (Still terrible.)
[21:10] <paultag> Unit193: You should check out the TeX license :)
[21:10] <paultag> and no, GIt rules!
[21:10] <paultag> Git*
[21:10] <Unit193> Oh nonono, *I'm* terrible with it!
[21:10] <Unit193> I like it better than bzr, even if it's harder.
[21:10] <skellat> I currently favor copyleft-next whenever Richard Fontana and the rest of us on the drafting team decide we have a version ready for usage.  http://copyleft-next.org/
[21:10] <jenni> [ copyleft-next ] - https://j.mp/1gzkUQu
[21:10] <Unit193> (People have said bzr is easier.)