| * ThatGraemeGuy yawn | 00:34 | |
| ThatGraemeGuy | off we go, at last | 00:34 |
|---|---|---|
| magespawn | good morning | 05:07 |
| Kilos | morning peeps | 06:15 |
| magespawn | heyho Kilos | 06:27 |
| Kilos | hiyo magespawn | 06:28 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 06:32 |
| kbmonkey | morning Kilos | 06:33 |
| kbmonkey | I think I woke up too early, lol | 06:34 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:34 |
| spinza | thanks inetpro (belatedly) | 06:37 |
| Kilos | morning spinza | 06:37 |
| spinza | morning k | 06:37 |
| spinza | so you were saying I'm safe going from 13.04 -> 13.10. backup home directory and upgrade? | 06:39 |
| Kilos | yeah i think so, then once installed do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade | 06:40 |
| Kilos | you know terminal use hey? | 06:40 |
| spinza | yes | 06:40 |
| Kilos | cool, use sudo with both commands | 06:41 |
| kbmonkey | morning spinza | 06:41 |
| spinza | so will that keep all services installed and settings etc? | 06:41 |
| kbmonkey | is the pro not in yet kilos | 06:41 |
| spinza | morning kbmonkey | 06:41 |
| Kilos | saterday he makes it late this avy or evening kbmonkey | 06:42 |
| Kilos | it should spinza | 06:42 |
| spinza | i once upgraded ubuntu but it turned out it wiped everything in terms of apps installed and settings | 06:42 |
| spinza | had to reinstall everything | 06:42 |
| spinza | can't remember from what to what it was though | 06:42 |
| Kilos | you might need to install some of the software you use again | 06:43 |
| kbmonkey | oh noes | 06:43 |
| kbmonkey | does ubuntu really do that Kilos ? remove apps? | 06:43 |
| Kilos | but the settings such as mail accounts and so stay | 06:43 |
| spinza | which software? | 06:43 |
| Kilos | installed apps | 06:43 |
| spinza | are they uninstalled? | 06:44 |
| Kilos | like gimp and so on | 06:44 |
| Kilos | ask superfly | 06:44 |
| kbmonkey | I dont believe that | 06:44 |
| Kilos | hi superfly does upgrading lose installed apps | 06:44 |
| kbmonkey | oh, no the fly said if you use dist-upgrade it can remove packages if their dependencies fall away | 06:45 |
| Kilos | i always clean install then just rsync home backup to /home | 06:45 |
| Kilos | wait spinza | 06:45 |
| superfly | no, not unless the repository has mismatching packages | 06:45 |
| kbmonkey | he then said you should use do-release-upgrade instead | 06:45 |
| Kilos | type in dash deja | 06:45 |
| Kilos | or backup | 06:45 |
| Kilos | that keeps everything working | 06:46 |
| Kilos | black square box | 06:46 |
| superfly | I've upgraded kubuntu years in a row without issue. just use do-release-upgrade | 06:46 |
| spinza | superfly so I should just run the upgrade from the terminal and I should keep apps+settings? | 06:47 |
| superfly | yes | 06:47 |
| Kilos | ty superfly | 06:48 |
| kbmonkey | thanks fly :] | 06:48 |
| spinza | thanks kbmonkey kilos & superfly | 06:48 |
| Kilos | :-) | 06:48 |
| superfly | if you get one of those popups about upgrading to a new release you can use that too | 06:48 |
| Kilos | yw spinza | 06:48 |
| Kilos | oh ya update manager does that | 06:48 |
| kbmonkey | yup | 06:49 |
| superfly | it's a gui version of the command line | 06:49 |
| Kilos | we so lucky to have the fly as backup | 06:49 |
| spinza | i do get those but haven't been keen to click it | 06:49 |
| spinza | have to keep upgrading till i get to a lts again then i'm going to stick with it i think | 06:49 |
| superfly | I moved to Debian unstable | 06:50 |
| kbmonkey | how is it superfly ? | 06:50 |
| superfly | stable | 06:50 |
| spinza | lol | 06:50 |
| kbmonkey | figures :] | 06:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:51 |
| kbmonkey | stable and unstable refers to the frequency the packages change, not system stability ;) | 06:51 |
| superfly | unstable is a little older than Ubuntu but it has been tested more and so far been a better experience | 06:52 |
| Kilos | oh my | 06:52 |
| superfly | also unstable is a rolling distro | 06:53 |
| superfly | so I am always upgrading | 06:53 |
| Kilos | superfly, when you got time to play just look ate 13.10 kde | 06:54 |
| Kilos | i love it | 06:54 |
| kbmonkey | Im thinking to switch to a rolling release. does it use more bandwidth superfly, from the continuous updates, or is it not much more than normal? | 06:54 |
| Kilos | you get them with your OS kbmonkey ? | 06:55 |
| Kilos | fly uses kde remember | 06:55 |
| kbmonkey | its just a Debian base, yes I can switch to sid | 06:56 |
| Kilos | sid? | 06:56 |
| superfly | unstable is called sid | 06:56 |
| Kilos | oh ty | 06:57 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: I presume it uses more because you're constantly upgrading | 06:59 |
| kbmonkey | sorry my modem ran out of battery there | 06:59 |
| Kilos | eish what kinda modem is that | 07:00 |
| superfly | I'm on uncapped so it doesn't make a difference to me | 07:00 |
| * kbmonkey shakes an angry fist | 07:00 | |
| kbmonkey | lol | 07:00 |
| kbmonkey | battery powered wireless broadband Kilos | 07:01 |
| kbmonkey | on usb charge | 07:01 |
| Kilos | aha | 07:01 |
| Kilos | stuff advancing too fast | 07:02 |
| superfly | scuse me, I need to install the latest CM nightly | 07:02 |
| kbmonkey | man I could eat a waffle right about now | 07:07 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:08 |
| superfly | I'm back! | 07:08 |
| Kilos | that was fast superfly | 07:08 |
| Kilos | whats a CM | 07:09 |
| superfly | CyanogenMod | 07:09 |
| Kilos | ouch | 07:09 |
| superfly | it's a custom could of Android | 07:09 |
| superfly | *build | 07:09 |
| kbmonkey | sudo make tea | 07:14 |
| Kilos | whats a micro sd | 07:29 |
| Kilos | a memory stick for cell phones | 07:29 |
| magespawn | something like that, usually goes in the phone or tablet to add extra storage space | 07:31 |
| Kilos | aha ty magespawn me looking stick prices | 07:32 |
| Kilos | time they brought them down | 07:33 |
| magespawn | micro version of th cards a lot of cameras use | 07:33 |
| Kilos | aha | 07:33 |
| kbmonkey | looks like a tiny sim card | 07:34 |
| Kilos | oh ya my nokia has one in | 07:35 |
| Kilos | is that the thing | 07:36 |
| magespawn | indeed | 07:36 |
| Kilos | cool beans | 07:36 |
| Kilos | wow 8ta just peaked at 579 kB/s | 07:44 |
| Kilos | they really moving | 07:44 |
| Kilos | from the main server | 07:44 |
| Kilos | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ | 07:45 |
| magespawn | and then drops hi connection | 08:09 |
| Kilos | grrr modem timed out even with the ping command running | 08:19 |
| magespawn | you overloaded the tower with that speed Kilos | 08:20 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 08:20 |
| Kilos | no man i want more | 08:20 |
| Kilos | its so lekker | 08:20 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 08:20 |
| Kilos | will get a telkom sim card this avy | 08:21 |
| Kilos | but can only test when this 8ta one is empty sigh | 08:23 |
| Kilos | oh mind you you get 200m free data monthly for 12 months | 08:24 |
| Kilos | will be lekker for maverick that never updates | 08:24 |
| Kilos | then maybe even fit an external yagi and see for lte | 08:27 |
| magespawn | ahh Kilos you have been bitten by the bug | 08:43 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:43 |
| Kilos | found some thing about the e220 that shows timeout on alpine linux | 08:44 |
| Kilos | in /etc/ppp/chat | 08:44 |
| Kilos | will see if i got that | 08:44 |
| Kilos | hehe exciting | 08:44 |
| Kilos | aw no peers or chat there sigh | 08:46 |
| Kilos | found peers | 08:51 |
| magespawn | bbl | 10:20 |
| charl | good afternoon | 11:06 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:06 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 11:06 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 11:10 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 11:11 |
| magespawn | hey | 11:50 |
| Kilos | wb magespawn | 12:03 |
| Kilos | you home now? | 12:03 |
| * Kilos wonders what happened to smile | 12:18 | |
| magespawn | no still at work | 12:47 |
| magespawn | just had to take the laptop and go and check the main gate | 12:48 |
| Kilos | aha | 13:01 |
| Kilos | most peeps knock off midday on saterday | 13:01 |
| Kilos | poor magespawn | 13:01 |
| magespawn | ahh well this is the life hey Kilos | 13:54 |
| Kilos | yeah man | 13:54 |
| Kilos | you gonna need leave twice a year | 13:54 |
| magespawn | could actually being doing most of this work from home, i am busy trying to sort of the website | 13:55 |
| Kilos | sort out? | 13:55 |
| magespawn | yup thats it | 13:56 |
| Kilos | why the things always broken? | 13:56 |
| Kilos | grrr | 13:56 |
| magespawn | not really sure, i did have a lot to learn regarding how the website worked | 14:03 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:03 |
| magespawn | so i am sure the next time i have to do this it will be a lot quicker | 14:04 |
| Kilos | write down what you do so you dont forget | 14:06 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:06 |
| magespawn | usually when i do something like this i don't forget | 14:08 |
| magespawn | okay home time, chat later Kilos | 14:12 |
| Kilos | go safe | 14:13 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 14:32 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 14:32 |
| kbmonkey | now I am tired, did cleaning chores. | 14:33 |
| Kilos | haha | 14:33 |
| kbmonkey | wow that the time, where did the day went | 14:34 |
| Kilos | working on a pc is a bit easier than manual labour hey | 14:34 |
| Kilos | where did the day go | 14:34 |
| kbmonkey | yes | 14:34 |
| kbmonkey | looks like rain again | 14:36 |
| Kilos | send it here | 14:42 |
| kbmonkey | sure thing | 14:58 |
| * kbmonkey rain dance | 14:58 | |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee on | 14:58 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 14:58 | |
| kbmonkey | maaz, dance | 14:58 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: What? | 14:58 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 14:59 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 14:59 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for kbmonkey and Kilos! | 15:02 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thank you | 15:03 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sure | 15:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 15:08 |
| Kilos | Maaz, dance | 15:08 |
| Maaz | Dancing is old fashioned Kilos Its the Toi Toi now | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, dance | 15:09 |
| Maaz | Dancing is old fashioned kbmonkey Its the Toi Toi now | 15:09 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 15:09 |
| kbmonkey | 4 | 15:10 |
| kbmonkey | typing is so slow today | 15:10 |
| kbmonkey | weather | 15:10 |
| Kilos | old age man and not enough meat | 15:11 |
| Kilos | wb kbmonkey | 15:54 |
| * Kilos gots a new telkom mobile sim | 15:54 | |
| Kilos | R49 | 15:54 |
| Kilos | 200m free data monthly for a year | 15:54 |
| kbmonkey | that is pretty expensive even for mobile data | 15:57 |
| kbmonkey | 8ta is R50 per GB | 15:57 |
| Kilos | the R49 is once of for the starter pack | 15:58 |
| Kilos | called a prepaid sim internet only | 15:59 |
| Kilos | hopefully it wont also get smses | 16:00 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, ^^ | 16:01 |
| Kilos | twit | 16:02 |
| kbmonkey | okay once off makes more sense | 16:04 |
| kbmonkey | that is a nice emergency data Kilos | 16:05 |
| Kilos | yeah | 16:05 |
| kbmonkey | good man | 16:05 |
| Kilos | and be good on maverick that dont wanna update/upgrade all the time | 16:05 |
| kbmonkey | rain is here Kilos did any of it reach you? | 16:18 |
| Kilos | nope | 16:19 |
| Kilos | hi User_Private you got your nick back to front | 16:20 |
| nlsthzn | phew xubuntu 13.10 pretty stable at present... almost two days without a problem and I have even been meddling with wine and playing some Window games... | 16:43 |
| Kilos | lol hiya nlsthzn | 16:44 |
| Kilos | 13.10 kde also no probs , but no wine | 16:44 |
| nlsthzn | :) | 16:45 |
| * nlsthzn going to a friend to watch the game in a little bit... | 16:45 | |
| Kilos | how long did the install take till reboot stage | 16:45 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 16:45 |
| Kilos | 10 mins | 16:45 |
| Kilos | 14 | 16:45 |
| nlsthzn | can't remember | 16:45 |
| nlsthzn | but not long... downloading and installing the language packs always takes the longest... | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hurry man | 16:46 |
| Kilos | you got 14 mins | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | ah... | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | it only starts half apst | 16:46 |
| nlsthzn | past | 16:46 |
| Kilos | oh i dont connect when installing | 16:46 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:47 |
| Kilos | they then chatting on the field the comms okes | 16:47 |
| nlsthzn | ok thx... I wil be going at 19:00 SA time... 1 two minute walk if I walk slowly :p | 16:47 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:48 |
| * nlsthzn will be back later or tomorrow or late tomorrow :p | 16:51 | |
| Kilos | ok enjoy the game | 16:51 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 17:50 |
| charl | hi nlsthzn | 17:50 |
| charl | how's it going | 17:50 |
| charl | sorry i had guests over this afternoon so haven't been checking irc | 17:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:54 |
| Kilos | wow slick steal | 17:55 |
| Kilos | oops | 17:56 |
| inetpro | oops? | 18:15 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:15 |
| inetpro | oh and hi Kilos | 18:15 |
| Kilos | lo inetpro | 18:16 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 18:16 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: you looking for me? | 18:16 |
| Kilos | that was sposed to be to tara | 18:16 |
| inetpro | hello charl | 18:16 |
| charl | how's it going | 18:16 |
| inetpro | charl: hot in Pretoria, and there? | 18:16 |
| charl | it's november, not exactly hot right now, but good | 18:17 |
| inetpro | yikes! Where did the year go? | 18:17 |
| charl | lol | 18:17 |
| Kilos | well the first half you were busy and the second half too | 18:21 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:22 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 18:23 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 18:23 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 18:23 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 18:23 |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 18:23 |
| charl | lol | 18:23 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 18:23 |
| inetpro | Kilos: have you sorted your modem? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | it hasnt timed out and i dunno why | 18:23 |
| Kilos | but speeds are lekker | 18:23 |
| Kilos | did you see. 579mB/s | 18:24 |
| Kilos | 8ta really rocking | 18:24 |
| inetpro | nice | 18:25 |
| charl | megabytes per second? | 18:26 |
| inetpro | uh? | 18:26 |
| inetpro | 579mB/s ? | 18:26 |
| Kilos | oops | 18:26 |
| charl | you got half a gigabit connection there | 18:26 |
| Kilos | kB/s | 18:26 |
| charl | oh :) | 18:26 |
| inetpro | oi | 18:26 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! | 18:27 |
| charl | not unbelievable, if you were on gibabit ethernet and fibre optic | 18:27 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 18:27 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 18:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias | 18:27 |
| Maaz | Kilos: ¡de nada! | 18:27 |
| Kilos | oh my all the noobs are gone | 18:27 |
| Kilos | oh no down dere | 18:27 |
| * inetpro has a download speed of 1.81Mbps and upload speed of 0.35Mbps | 18:28 | |
| Kilos | put that in KB/s | 18:28 |
| Kilos | slow methinks | 18:29 |
| inetpro | /8 | 18:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz, 18100/8 | 18:29 |
| inetpro | 226 | 18:29 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 2262.5 | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ai | 18:30 |
| Kilos | 226 kB/s | 18:30 |
| inetpro | your 579 is fast indeed, but 226 is fast enough to be workable | 18:31 |
| Kilos | ya i spose | 18:31 |
| Kilos | mine is really rocking | 18:32 |
| Kilos | and our main mirror is good | 18:33 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you watching rugby? | 18:34 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:34 |
| inetpro | what's the score? | 18:34 |
| Kilos | sharing comments with my brat | 18:34 |
| Kilos | 17/12 to us | 18:35 |
| inetpro | cool | 18:35 |
| Kilos | she knows more about rugby than i do | 18:36 |
| * inetpro now listening on radio | 18:41 | |
| charl | Kilos: you are talking to your daughter in australia? | 18:48 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:48 |
| charl | through instant messaging? | 18:48 |
| Kilos | yip pidgin and xmpp | 18:49 |
| charl | awesome! | 18:49 |
| charl | i use xmpp too to talk to my mom every day | 18:49 |
| Kilos | ya it works | 18:50 |
| Kilos | but so does everything in pidgin | 18:50 |
| charl | she got set up on whatsapp now but i want her to install the guardian project's chatsecure application | 18:50 |
| charl | because whatsapp is properly monitored by the government | 18:50 |
| Kilos | mxit aim etc etc | 18:50 |
| charl | yeah but xmpp is an open standard | 18:50 |
| charl | that's the way the internet was meant to be - based on open standards | 18:50 |
| charl | not proprietary like msn, skype, icq etc | 18:51 |
| charl | interestingly, whatsapp is also based on xmpp, but it doesn't seem to support federation | 18:51 |
| charl | and they don't use end-to-end encryption, it's nsa friendly | 18:52 |
| charl | https://guardianproject.info/apps/chatsecure/ | 18:54 |
| Kilos | maar sleg gespeel | 19:22 |
| Kilos | darem gewen | 19:22 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ians sound from apps like pidgin and skype just stopped and i cant find where i saved the commands to check sound | 19:27 |
| Kilos | on 12.04 kde | 19:27 |
| charl | alsamixer ? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | i dont think that comes installed by default does it | 19:28 |
| Kilos | the mixer i mean | 19:29 |
| charl | yes | 19:29 |
| charl | it does | 19:29 |
| Kilos | oh maybe it got muted somehow | 19:29 |
| Kilos | plays music and boot sound works | 19:30 |
| charl | yeah, but it could be master, headphone, speaker, pcm etc | 19:30 |
| charl | oh, weird | 19:31 |
| Kilos | weill get him to check it ty | 19:31 |
| charl | np | 19:31 |
| Kilos | only sound from apps dont work | 19:31 |
| charl | sorry for answering instead of inetpro :) | 19:31 |
| charl | but i just had some issues myself and solved them using alsamixer | 19:32 |
| Kilos | np ty | 19:32 |
| Kilos | any help welcome | 19:32 |
| Kilos | aptitude upgrade fixed his sound | 20:04 |
| Kilos | he says it found lotsa probs | 20:04 |
| * Kilos loves aptitude | 20:04 | |
| Kilos | and my bed | 20:04 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:07 |
| theblazehen | hey guys | 21:19 |
| theblazehen | anyone got experience with PXE booting, and transparent squid proxies? | 21:20 |
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