[00:00] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: it's always good to not pay attention and just click yes/next ;)
[00:00] <GZA-Genius> I would boot from live usb/cd see if it works fine there first
[00:00] <ni291187> I'm at my login screen at 640 480 res, no mouse and keyboard, I will never update again
[00:01] <ni291187> sorry, I'm just really frustrated with other things in my life
[00:01] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: cant u get into recovery?
[00:01] <ni291187> I can, but I can't use keyboard or mouse
[00:02] <ni291187>  could maybe use SSH and login that way
[00:02] <GZA-Genius> even ini recovery shell?
[00:02] <ni291187> umm.., I don't think I have
[00:02] <GZA-Genius> i wouldnt even bother backup data u need and do a fresh install, because there are major issues obviously
[00:03] <ni291187> what? no way
[00:03] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: if you cant use kb in recovery shell i would start with a fresh install
[00:04] <GZA-Genius> how are you going to fix it if you can not make inputs or changes even in the bare minimum recovery
[00:04] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: if that is the case i dont see another option.
[00:04] <bekks> GZA-Genius: There is a known bug that USB keyboards in 13.10 dont work at the console.
[00:05] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyone know why new kernal updates would always yield a new black screen
[00:05] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[00:05] <Psil0Cybin> ohblayt
[00:05] <ni291187> what the fuck!!!!
[00:05] <GZA-Genius> bekks: yes but he is saying it dont work in recovery
[00:05] <GZA-Genius> bekks: i have seen that bug and the work around
[00:05] <bekks> GZA-Genius: Read again what I just said then ;)
[00:05] <ni291187> I use a USB keyboard, everyone uses a USB keyboard except for North Koreans, what kind of bug is this?
[00:05] <GZA-Genius> bekks: but not the one he is talking about
[00:05] <bekks> GZA-Genius: The bug affect the recovery too.
[00:06] <bekks> ni291187: Take a look yourself, and just try it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362402/usb-keyboard-does-not-load-after-13-10-upgrade
[00:06] <KennyShrek> hi
[00:06] <GZA-Genius> bekks: well that is why i said I dont know of any options because i have not been there
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> ni291187, The channel asks you to keep the language clean.
[00:07] <Ricanelite757> Hey I have a question, I installed Ubuntu on my old computer which has a wireless adapter and I also have a spare wireless adapter but for some reason I cannot connect it to the internet
[00:07] <Ricanelite757> Any Help please
[00:07] <acecabana> How can I fix Ubuntu hanging on black screen at restart?
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> Ricanelite757, lspci for internal lsusb for a usb name them.
[00:08] <acecabana> Also, when I awake from hibernation, my wifi goes down. Any help would be appreciated.
[00:08] <ni291187> this is bad.... I can't connect through ssh
[00:08] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | acecabana
[00:08] <jmgk> where is Dr_Willis?
[00:08] <bekks> ni291187: you could boot another live cd.
[00:09] <GZA-Genius> jmgk: with a patient
[00:09] <jmgk> oh
[00:09] <GZA-Genius> jmgk: j/k
[00:09] <ni291187> I don't have a live disk..... how do I get one?
[00:09] <bekks> ni291187: Just download a 12.04 livecd e.g.
[00:09] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: burn a cd or make usb from machine ur on now
[00:10] <acecabana> wilee-nilee: I will try this and report back, thanks.
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> cool
[00:10] <ni291187> and what happens after I load it?
[00:10] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: u can use unetbootin or there are 100 diff ways yo go about it just google ubuntu live cd
[00:10] <Ricanelite757> wilee-nilee, then after that?
[00:10] <bekks> ni291187: burn it, boot it, chroot into your system.,, apply the workaround, reboot to your system.
[00:13] <ni291187> you've got to be joking... what if I don't have another computer
[00:13] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: he gave you link with solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/362402/usb-keyboard-does-not-load-after-13-10-upgrade
[00:13] <bekks> ni291187: I am not joking. And you dont need another computer.
[00:13] <GZA-Genius> ni291187: then u need a friend that does
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> Ricanelite757, In order to get any help here we need specifics/details ie name the wifi hardware.
[00:14] <bekks> ni291187: cant you create the livecd on the computer your are on right now?
[00:14] <francescocozzoli> hello, i would like to ask I installed another environment desktop how can I change it?
[00:14] <francescocozzoli> because after the restarting it didn't change
[00:14] <acecabana> wilee-nilee: nomodeset
[00:14] <acecabana> The newest kernels have moved the video mode setting into the kernel. So all the programming of the hardware specific clock rates and registers on the video card happen in the kernel rather than in the X driver when the X server starts.. This makes it possible to have high resolution nice looking splash (boot) screens and flicker free transitions from boot splash to login screen. Unfortunately, on some cards this doesnt work
[00:14] <acecabana> properly and you end up with a black screen. Adding the nomodeset parameter instructs the kernel to not load video drivers and use BIOS modes instead until X is loaded.
[00:14] <acecabana> Note that this option is sometimes needed for nVidia cards when using the default "nouveau" drivers. Installing proprietary nvidia drivers usually makes this option no longer necessary, so it may not be needed to make this option permanent, just for one boot until you installed the nvidia drivers.
[00:14] <FloodBot1> acecabana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:14] <savetheinternet> fuck linux
[00:14] <savetheinternet> fuck the GNU
[00:15] <savetheinternet> fuck the FSF
[00:15] <FloodBot1> savetheinternet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:15] <Ricanelite757> I have a belkin n600 DB wireless adapter
[00:15] <ni291187> holy crappppppppp it worked, that link was right, older kernel works fine
[00:15] <bekks> ni291187: Yes, of course.
[00:16] <GZA-Genius> lol how is that fun or cool
[00:16] <Ricanelite757> wilee-nilee, I have a Belkin N600 DB USB Wireless adapter
[00:16] <bekks> ni291187: Guess why I posted that link to you...
[00:16] <GZA-Genius> lol
[00:17] <minimec> francescocozzoli: Once logged in after the boot process. Logout your session. You will then have the lightdm login manager, where you can choose your session. Click the icon right of the username... http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UHd2szPp2_0/Tnmd2pSpw6I/AAAAAAAAAbM/5VEGbkbcOFM/s1600/LightDM.png
[00:17] <GZA-Genius> I thought maybe you just liked posting random links
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> Ricanelite757, here is a link for the belkin tell the channel both if you can. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=+n600
[00:21] <wilee-nilee> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=belkin++n600
[00:22] <dermag> holla,can i ask for some advice
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> dermag, This is support, think if advice fits into this schema, and is ubuntu.
[00:23] <dermag> its first linux instal
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> dermag, ubuntu?
[00:24] <dermag> yes
[00:24] <kclemente> hi! after doing apt-get upgrade on ubuntu 13.10, linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic python-wxgtk2.8 packages were not upgraded. do i still need to upgrade these? thanks.
[00:24] <dermag> just want to ask is it going to work on comapq hp 615
[00:24] <dermag> its older lap
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> kclemente, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:24] <Ricanelite757> im trying to install ndiswrapper but it is not working
[00:25] <Ricanelite757> in the terminal
[00:25] <kclemente> wilee-nilee: will try. thanks
[00:25] <ni291187> I think I did what it wanted, I found the modules file, I added the line, saved. tan update, did not fix proble,. I tee
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> kclemente, be sure you are not doing a partial upgrade the dist-upgrade can bypass this.
[00:26] <ni291187> I tried sudo apt-get -f install, did not install anything
[00:27] <minimec> dermag: The hardware should work. I searched the net for your computer. Do have a AMD Athlon X2 versoin. Do you have 1 or 2 GB of ram?
[00:28] <dermag> x2 2gb ram
[00:28] <minimec> dermag: Are the specs something like this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Compaq-615-Bluetooth-Widescreen-BrightView/dp/B0030BLGOU
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> dermag, should work, how much ram do you have?
[00:29] <dermag> the same yes
[00:29] <minimec> dermag: That should work without problem. The Radeon HD 3200 should work too.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> dermag, 2 gigs is enough, is that 4?
[00:30] <dermag> 4 ?
[00:30] <wilee-nilee>  x2 2gb ram
[00:30] <dermag> and do i download 32 or 64
[00:30] <minimec> wilee-nilee: It's an Athlon X2... ;)
[00:30] <minimec> dermag: 64bit, no question.
[00:30] <dermag> yes x2 with 2 gb ram
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> dermag, I would get more ram it can go to 8 gigs, but you should be alright.
[00:32] <dermag> do i have to unistal a win . and run just a ubuntu,is it a win going to slow down ubuntu
[00:32] <Kamuela> wee, 13.10 is baws
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> dermag, resize windows with its partitioner, make sure you do not have 4 primary partitions already from ubuntu and install in the unallocated space.
[00:34] <a1fa> damn it ubuntu
[00:34] <a1fa> ports.ubuntu.com is down
[00:34] <bekks> dermag: Windows cant slow down Ubuntu.
[00:34] <minimec> dermag: Is there a windows version installed? IN that case resize the windows partition (I would probably do that in windows), and install Ubuntu aside of windows. You can then choose at boot, what system you want to boot.
[00:34] <a1fa> who took down the ports database?
[00:34] <ni291187> how do I update my repo servers to saucy?
[00:34] <a1fa> http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ports.ubuntu.com.html
[00:34] <MonkeyDust> ni291187  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[00:34] <a1fa> son of a gun
[00:35] <dermag> i plan to try from usb ,to see is it slow on  this old lap
[00:35] <dermag> xp is instal
[00:35] <a1fa> sun onf beeet
[00:35] <minimec> ni291187: I would not do that! I would run the 'update-manager -d'
[00:35] <ni291187> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[00:35] <ni291187> errr..
[00:35] <MonkeyDust> ni291187  then it already is saucy
[00:36] <a1fa> guys how do you get  ahold of UBUNTU noc? their friggin ports server is down
[00:36] <a1fa> in the middle of my upgrade :(
[00:36] <a1fa> i keel them
[00:36] <Kamuela> minimec, do you remember how you found that swapfile tutorial? I vaguely remember how to do it, it started with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap but can't remember the rest, it was like makeswap or something
[00:36] <dermag> how much space to split,ubuntu > win
[00:36] <BillyZane> hi, this is ni291187, i was on my ipad
[00:36] <dermag> hdd is 160gb
[00:36] <BillyZane> it's ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[00:36] <minimec> Kamuela: No problem. I have the logs... So the ubuntu installation went well?
[00:36] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  great, that's saucy
[00:37] <BillyZane> ohh ok
[00:37] <minimec> Kamuela: 22:09       minimec : Kamuela: That seems to be a nice tutorial. http://www.garron.me/en/bits/create-add-swap-file-ubuntu.html
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> dermag, depends on how much you plan to use it and for what, both OS can be resized again.
[00:37] <Kamuela> minimec, yeah, I didn't do anything too complicated. made my 20GB / and /home, installed grub to /dev/sda2 as normal and no swap partition
[00:37] <dermag> ok tnx for help
[00:38] <MonkeyDust> BillyZane  but you can do sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:38] <BillyZane> i'll try
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> dermag, Windows OEM's regularily have 4 primaries and that is a problem so I would confirm that from a ubuntu live cd.
[00:38] <minimec> Kamuela: I would have done exactly the same...
[00:38] <BillyZane> yes it's updating
[00:38] <BillyZane> now i'm upgrading
[00:39] <BillyZane> someone linked to me a way to fix my keyboard issue with the latest linux kernel
[00:40] <BillyZane> i tried what it recommended and rebooted, but it did not work
[00:40] <BillyZane> perhaps i did it wrong
[00:40] <Kamuela> minimec, thanks, swapfile'd :D
[00:40] <BillyZane> i went in to /etc/initramfs-tools/ and modified 'modules'
[00:40] <BillyZane> i assumed the wordings in # were all commented out
[00:40] <dermag> ok,a plan a clen instal,just ubuntu on hp,but first must retrive all data,,some hard failing is happening with xp
[00:40] <Kamuela> Does anyone try to install the infinality font fixes?
[00:40] <BillyZane> so after the # comments, i added what it told me to add, 'ohci_pci'
[00:40] <BillyZane> i saved, i rap sudo update-initramfs -u
[00:40] <BillyZane> restarted
[00:41] <BillyZane> did not work
[00:41] <vidplace7> launchpad down for everyone?
[00:41] <dermag> anyway tnx again ,i try tonight from usb boot to try
[00:41] <BillyZane> vidplace7, yes for me at least, in the latest kernel, i can't get proper res, mouse or keyboard to work
[00:42] <vidplace7> i was updating my dualboot :/ haha
[00:42] <vidplace7> well, i was going to
[00:43] <vidplace7> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ is also down, it seems
[00:44] <MonkeyDust> vidplace7  try this https://help.ubuntu.com/
[00:44] <Kamuela> Is there a test I can run to see if my swap is working?
[00:44] <dermag> i forgot,one more questione,about android ubuntu,somebody say its slow somebody its not,does it work ok on xperi pro mk16i
[00:45] <vidplace7> MonkeyDust: things like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak3 etc
[00:45] <MonkeyDust> vidplace7  yes, if you click further, it's all down
[00:45] <MonkeyDust> vidplace7  i guess we'll soon read why
[00:45] <dermag> because its not dualcore phone,but many has instal
[00:46] <blurkis> Kamuela, I am unsure of any normal applications to see swap, but if you run "free -m" in a terminal, you will see information about swap
[00:46] <minimec> Kamuela: 'top' in a terminal... --> Swap:
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> dermag, You want #ubuntu-Touch for the phone
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu-touch
[00:47] <Kamuela> minimec, Jesus, no wonder I said I needed swap. I'm damned near full use of 4GB. WOW
[00:48] <multi_io> is there a configuration file/setting for which kernel packages may be removed automatically by the system during upgrades?
[00:48] <minimec> Kamuela: ubuntu is 'reserving' some RAM, even though it might not be used right now. So the numbers might not be 100% accurate.
[00:49] <multi_io> I thought there was such a thing.
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> multi_io, So what about failed kernel install, what then?
[00:51] <multi_io> wilee-nilee: I want to exclude some kernels from that list
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> multi_io, As far as I know there is no app.
[00:52] <wagonboi> I dual boot Ubuntu 12.04 (not the latest 12.04 release.. 0.3?) along with Windows. How do I wipe my Ubuntu install and install a fresh Ubuntu 12.04.3?
[00:52] <minimec> Kamuela: 'sudo apt-get install htop' ... Much more accurate... ;)
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> wagonboi, use the manual install and put it in its place.
[00:53] <vidplace7> Kamuela: if you're on desktop, system monitor is a great way to check swap http://i.imgur.com/4JdDLvB.png
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> wagonboi, Anything in it you want saved?
[00:55] <wagonboi> wilee-nilee, nope. the only thing I've done is a printer config but that should only take 5 minutes. What is the best way to install Ubuntu with Cinammon? I would like to avoid installing Unity in the first place
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> wagonboi, cinnamon is in the 13.04 repos, not sure if its in the mini to bypass unity, 12.04 is not really set for cinnamon.
[00:56] <wagonboi> Would installing Ubuntu with Unity, installing cinammon, and then purge unity work? Or is unity too "integrated" into ubuntu?
[00:56] <Scunizi> If I run /home on a separate drive and want to use a SSD, would I see the most speed increase by putting the OS on the SSD or use the SSD for /home?
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> wagonboi, unity is tiny, and cinnamon uses most of it but the compiz plugin that is unity, I would not worry about unity.
[00:57] <daftykins> Scunizi: keep both the /home and the OS on the SSD, but symlink all your /home media storage (like Music, Photos, Videos) onto the HDD
[00:58] <daftykins> in subfolders
[00:58] <vozeldr> hello, i just got a new router and it can run an openvpn service... i was able to download configuration files for the vpn service from the router but in ubuntu i'm having trouble setting up the vpn client... do i need to install openvpn package and do all the configuration manually or is there a way to configure it right from the network connections window in unity?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> wagonboi, cinnamon wont run in 12.04 though.
[00:59] <Scunizi> daftykins: not sure I follow.. keep the media storage on the standard drive with links on the ssd or vise versa
[00:59] <wagonboi> Ok, I will try 13.04. I hope my drivers work out of the box
[00:59] <minimec> Scunizi: I have my whole sytem on ssd '/' and '/home'. Large media files are on a different disk or the home network.
[00:59] <daftykins> Scunizi: store media on the HDD, essentially.
[01:00] <Scunizi> minimec: daftykins cool.  thanks to both of you.
[01:00] <alazare619> hey im having a issue im running lightdm with razor-qt and openbox but autologin keeps failing any idea?
[01:00] <heyun> HELP! I installed xubuntu alongside windows xp,now when start the computer,i can see 5 choices in grub,including boot ubuntu,boot windows,but can only really boot ubuntu,when i choose windows,it just return grub again,how is it?
[01:00] <a1berto> hello everyone.
[01:00] <kyoto> hello
[01:01] <daftykins> !grub | heyun
[01:01] <minimec> Scunizi: You might want to 'tune' your /etc/fstab after installation, to get most out of your ssd. Check if Trim is activated after install... --> 'discard' for the partitions on the ssd.
[01:02] <jayar_> "it seems you have modified the contents of "/etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-settings-daemon.desktop". Would you like to add the contents of it to your bug report?"
[01:02] <kyoto> I love ubuntu but I remember spending so much time getting stuff to work 3 years ago. And now I see lots of others doing what I was doing, spending endless time trying to fix something on ubuntu.
[01:02] <jayar_> Linux xps 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:12:00 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:03] <a1berto> i've a sempron 3400+ with 3 gb of ram and i want install ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. when i start installation he load for a while then i couldn't edit partition, erase entire disk. i can't do nothing! hard disk has no problem. i don't know where is the problem, maybe 64-bit?
[01:03] <jayar_> i love it. i have it runnin on 3 of my 7 machines in the office
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> heyun, ppa's and some website seems to be down at the moment, normally I would send to to bootrepair a gui for repairing this. However we can use a tool that bit uses to look at you set up run it and pastebin the script generated. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[01:04] <jayar_> if i could run CS6, 3DSMAX, SolidWorks on it, i'd have it on all of em.
[01:04] <theScaryDoor> hey so just found thundar and its way better than nautilus imo.
[01:05] <theScaryDoor> am I in the right channel?
[01:05] <heyun> minimec: no such file or directory
[01:05] <jayar_> i wouldnt mind an alternative to nautilus, i'll hve to check that out
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> kyoto, I have used ubuntu and linux for over 7 years and never have had to repair much, some are just are inexperienced or are using hardware that is rather new and not really troed and true tested.
[01:07] <ghostmediapro> echo $display empty ubuntu 12.04
[01:07] <theScaryDoor> anyone have tips on how to get a logitech c270 webcam to work in ubuntu?
[01:07] <ghostmediapro> i've been googling all day please someone help me
[01:07] <theScaryDoor> Also, how do I create a trashcan in a certain media resource?
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> !details | ghostmediapro
[01:07] <a1berto> the install stop here http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/616/u/img/download/desktop-install-2.png :(
[01:08] <ghostmediapro> i'm running zentyal, which is built on ubuntu 12.04, i'm try to forward apps over x11 through putty using xming on windows desktop
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> a1berto, I am seeing holdups on various ubuntu sources I would hold off till all that is worked out.
[01:09] <ghostmediapro> i can't get x11 working because no display is configured
[01:09] <theScaryDoor> I have a problem with creating a trash in ubuntu 12.04.  I get the error message: "Unable to find or create a trash directory" when attempting to delete a file on a file in my /media/2TB directory.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> ghostmediapro, zentyal, is not supported here.
[01:11] <ghostmediapro> sorry i didn't know that, as i figured since is is build on top of ubuntu 12.04, that it maybe some tips that i my have not found?
[01:12] <aendruk> Anyone else having trouble reaching http://www.ubuntu.com/ or http://www.canonical.com/?
[01:12] <a1berto> no
[01:13] <wolfgang__> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 today, and my internal mic wont work, I have been trying things all over google for hours.
[01:13] <a1berto> wilee-nilee: i try i386 version. very strange situation. never happen before!
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> aendruk, I can get them, but there seems to have been a problem, so if everything is backup it just needs to feed that to all the various servers.
[01:13] <theScaryDoor> well shit, apparently thunar has issues finding a trash directoty...
[01:13] <theScaryDoor> always something...
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> !language | theScaryDoor
[01:14] <minimec> ghostmediapro: Install 'openssh-server'. With linux I can then login to that machine like 'ssh minimec@myhost -X' and start my GUI applications from the remote machine.
[01:14] <aendruk> Hmm, the moment I ask here both seem to be back up.
[01:15] <wolfgang__> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 today, and my internal mic wont work, I have been trying things all over google for hours.
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> !patience | wolfgang__
[01:16] <ghostmediapro> minimec: openssh-server is already the newest version
[01:16] <theScaryDoor> damn thunar and its inability to delete files!!
[01:16] <wolfgang__> wille-nilee| I think waited a decent amount of time
[01:16] <ghostmediapro> echo $display empty ubuntu 12.04
[01:17] <a1berto> i also try to search but no answers :P
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> wolfgang__, 10 min not 2 is the norm
[01:17] <minimec> ghostmediapro: ok. Is the xserver installed? 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg'
[01:18] <heyun> wilee-nilee: how  should i do after get the RESULT.txt?
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | heyun copy paste here.
[01:19] <Anden> suddenly, my computer no longer reacts to the mouse and keyboard other than cursor moving. the clock is ticking and everything is running
[01:19] <Anden> i'm actually typing this from that computer via another computer through ssh
[01:19] <Anden> any advice what i can do to fix it? i must not restart the display manager because i have an important program running
[01:19] <ghostmediapro> minimec: xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
[01:21] <pero>  so i've lost my unity web apps extension in chromium, but it is installed in apt - any ideas how to get it back?
[01:21] <Shadowandlight> sudo wget http://download.simplemachines.org/index.php/repair_settings.php doesnt work, but when i browse to the directory in chrome it downloads the file... any ideas?
[01:22] <minimec> ghostmediapro: Is that a installation that boots into a graphical login manager, or does it only boot to a console?
[01:24] <wolfgang__> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 today, and my internal mic wont work, I have been trying things all over google for hours.
[01:25] <Shadowandlight> nvm it was a dns error :)
[01:27] <mguy> I want to run an xinput command (which disables my touchpad) automatically when Ubuntu starts - how do I do that?
[01:27] <ghostmediapro> minimec: graphical login manager
[01:28] <heyun> wilee-nilee, ubottu :http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385432/
[01:28] <ghostmediapro> minimec: gui is lxde
[01:28] <wolfgang__> Why cant I chat in ##linux?
[01:28] <minimec> ghostmediapro: Well then you should be good, looking at the linux side... Now how to configure that 'xming' thing... That is a question, where I cannot help you. Never used a xserver on windows....
[01:29] <heyun> wilee-nilee, ubottu : it is a part of whole file
[01:29] <mguy> wolfgang__: are you registered with nickserv?
[01:29] <wolfgang__> No
[01:29] <wolfgang__> How do I do that?
[01:29] <shroomduke> just send an email
[01:30] <wolfgang__> ?
[01:30] <wolfgang__> mguy| how do I register?
[01:30] <shroomduke> it should tell ya when you log in
[01:30] <mguy> wolfgang__: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[01:31] <mguy> It's also in the MOTD like shroomduke said
[01:31] <kostkon> !register | wolfgang__
[01:32] <ghostmediapro> minimec: that is find, the only issue is everything is installed that needs to be, but when i run echo $display, it returns a black line
[01:32] <kostkon> ghostmediapro, i get an empty line too
[01:32] <mguy> ghostmediapro: try $DISPLAY
[01:33] <FLeiXiuS> Is launchpad offline?
[01:33] <wolfgang__> Can some one please help me with my mic?
[01:33] <mguy> echo'ing anythin that isn't defined is going to return a blank line
[01:33] <kostkon> mguy, exactly
[01:33] <ghostmediapro> Kostkon: empty return
[01:34] <minimec> ghostmediapro: mguy is right. It's $DISPLAY
[01:34] <kostkon> FLeiXiuS, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net   yeah
[01:34] <heyun> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385442/       this is the complete file
[01:34] <shroomduke> just ask your question wolfgang
[01:34] <wolfgang__> I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 today, and my internal mic wont work, I have been trying things all over google for hours.
[01:34] <kostkon> ghostmediapro, i get :0
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> heyun, thanks hold on.
[01:34] <shroomduke> you broke it!
[01:34] <wolfgang__> I broke what?
[01:35] <shroomduke> sorry wolf, just funnin ya, I am a newbee too
[01:35] <shroomduke> did you check your settings
[01:35] <wolfgang__> Ok then, also Im not that much of a newbie
[01:35] <wolfgang__> And of course I checked my settings
[01:35] <shroomduke> then you know more than me lol
[01:36] <shroomduke> I know it was a foolish question but ...
[01:36] <wolfgang__> Ubuntu 12.04 wont recognize it, but 13.10 will, but I dont like how buggy 13.10 is
[01:36] <shroomduke> i c
[01:36] <shroomduke> i upgraded to 13.10 and had a few problems, video seems slower...
[01:37] <shroomduke> but everything seems to work
[01:37] <wolfgang__> Are you using 13.10?
[01:37] <shroomduke> did you google your issue
[01:37] <shroomduke> yes I am
[01:38] <ghostmediapro> zenadmin@zentyal:~$ firefox & [2] 6612 zenadmin@zentyal:~$ Error: no display specified
[01:38] <wolfgang__> It was slow and freezing for me, and from what I read, a lot of people can hardly use it, and I am more familiar with 12.04 anyway (not that there is much of a difference.)
[01:38] <shroomduke> did you sudo apt-get update
[01:38] <ghostmediapro> kostkon: zenadmin@zentyal:~$ firefox & [2] 6612 zenadmin@zentyal:~$ Error: no display specified
[01:38] <wolfgang__> I did update it, but I really dont care
[01:38] <wolfgang__> Im not starting ANOTHER fresh install of linux
[01:39] <shroomduke> did you see this http://askubuntu.com/questions/133903/internal-microphone-not-listed-in-sound-settings
[01:39] <shroomduke> or this http://www.humans-enabled.com/2011/07/help-when-your-microphone-is-not.html
[01:40] <heyun> wilee-nilee,   wait for your good news
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> heyun, So you are just missing the grub bootloader in the mbr, all the easy follow wikis are down at the moment. The easiest way to do this is use this link to boot to xubuntu and install it from the desktop. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ This disc is tiny and can be loaded to a usb, once you get to the desktop just run sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub
[01:42] <lapion> is there anything wrong with the ppa repositories ?
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> heyun, That do able for you, I forget the exact mount and install you would do from a live cd to do the same basically.
[01:43] <lapion> I cannot seem to reach the ubuntu mythttv ppas
[01:43] <CaptainTacoSauce> lapion: looks like all of launchpad.net is down to me, that's why I came here, to make sure it wasn't just me
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lapion, seems to be some servers down yes.
[01:44] <heyun> wilee-nilee,   okay, thank you. I'll have a try
[01:44] <lapion> ok thanks..
[01:44] <lapion> and just when I am fixing my mythtv server
[01:44] <aendruk> lapion: https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus/status/398980619880775680
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> heyun, You mentioned getting a grub menu, I think grub was put on the usb drive you used to install with's mbr, generally it would boot the xubuntu.
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> heyun, OOPs hold on I made a mistake here.
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> heyun, YOU actually put grub in sda1 the windows partition, hold on.
[01:46] <wolfgang__> None of those worked
[01:47] <wolfgang__> shroomduke| none worked, and again, I was on google for hours and nothing worked, maybe Im missing the driver?
[01:48] <wolfgang__> But if I open additional drivers nothing comes up
[01:48] <wolfgang__> Well, In trying sudo apt-get update again then rebooting
[01:48] <wilee-nilee> heyun, Partially wrong, this link will fix the grub in sda1 partition, then you would use the other link to get to the desktop and run that command.  http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[01:49] <wolfgang__> Is launchpad down?
[01:49] <minimec> wolfgang__: Do you know, what sound device you have? do 'lspci | grep Audio' in a console. With the result in combinatio with 'ubuntu' you might find some further information.
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> heyun, I had looked for that grub in the windows partition but not close enough, have you gotten this additional info?
[01:50] <chaotix> hey...  i read an article that suggests upgrading rhythmbox to the latest version, using an outside ppa, "ppa:jacob/media".  i myself dont plan on doing this, but i was wondering if it is safe, or if it would actually break one's ubuntu install...  here is the link:  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:50] <shroomduke> I figured that, it sounds like it is down
[01:50] <shroomduke> what sound card do you have
[01:50] <zykotick9> !ppa | chaotix
[01:51] <wilee-nilee> chaotix, PPA's are not supported here is all, so that is the risk, you would want to know how to run the ppa-purge in general.
[01:51] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  how can I get it
[01:51] <wolfgang__> minimec| what?
[01:52] <wolfgang__> minimec| What do you want me to do?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> heyun, The second link is for running testdiak on a live cd/usb of xubuntu or ubuntu.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> testdisk
[01:53] <Lumiere> is anyone seeing issues with archive.canonical.com right now?
[01:53] <chaotix> i understand...  i was just wondering if upgrading apps that are included in the regular repo with ones from ppa's could break one's installation...  it isnt that i am asking for support...  is that something that would be better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:53] <minimec> wolfgang__: open a terminal an type 'lspci | grep Audio'. That should give you something similar like this "00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)". Use that information an search the net in combination with 'ubuntu' or 'mic' 'bug' or so...
[01:54] <zykotick9> Lumiere: launchpad is down, due to a power outage.   https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus/status/398980619880775680  perhaps archive.canonical.com is affected as well?
[01:54] <wolfgang__> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[01:55] <ni291187> it is?
[01:55] <minimec> wolfgang__: So you say that you have the same card as I do? well mine is working...
[01:56] <Lumiere> zykotick9: I will check a couple things
[01:56] <wolfgang__> minimec| Do you have ubuntu 12.04?
[01:57] <wolfgang__> minimec| Do you have ubuntu 12.04?
[01:57] <minimec> wolfgang__: Well yes on the desktop. But the mic I use is the one of my Logitech webcam. I have the same card in a Lenovo too, on 13.10. Mic is working. I don't even know if I still have a mic to plug directly on the soundcard.
[01:58] <heyun> wilee-nilee,   So I should do "testdisk", dose it the same as "test memory" when start form grub
[01:58] <wolfgang__> on 13.10 It works
[01:58] <wolfgang__> for me
[01:58] <wolfgang__> Well would an external mic maybe for?
[01:58] <wolfgang__> maybe work
[01:58] <minimec> wolfgang__: Well for 13.10 I can confirm that...
[01:59] <wolfgang__> Mine works on 13.10 to, but 12.04 is less buggy
[01:59] <odium> hello, I'm having issues with flash not scaling when in fullscreen. whatshouldido?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> heyun, No test memory tests the ram testdisk is a app read the link carefully here, the word test is just a random thing.
[02:00] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  okay, I know
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> a random coincidence
[02:00] <wolfgang__> When will launch pad be back up?
[02:01] <wolfgang__> I need to restart my computer I will be right back
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> heyun, It's not real complex, you got the bootscript run that's pretty good, So I have faith in you here ask any questions if needed. ;)
[02:03] <minimec> wolfgang__: I was able to test the mic on my desktop with a mic plugged in the 3.5 jack input of the soundcard on 12.04. Mic is working.
[02:04] <wolfgang__> IM back
[02:04] <minimec> wolfgang__: I was able to test the mic on my desktop with a mic plugged in the 3.5 jack input of the soundcard on 12.04. Mic is working.
[02:05] <wolfgang__> Maybe its because I have an internal mic?
[02:05] <user__> hello?
[02:05] <wolfgang__> Is there a place where I can get drivers? The additional drivers didnt give me any
[02:06] <wolfgang__> Or maybe a plugin?
[02:06] <minimec> wolfgang__: Looks like some alsa settings problem. I mean these Intel chipsets are well supported in Linux/ubuntu.
[02:06] <wolfgang__> ok
[02:06] <wolfgang__> How do I fix asla?
[02:06] <zykotick9> chaotix: i sent !ppa for teh warning part.  YES, using PPAs can break your system.  assume they will, to be safe.
[02:06] <user__> ok guys i setup a xbmc and all of my computers run some sort of debian or ubuntu as well as the xbmc, now my question is should i really use SMB a windows protocall to stream video?
[02:07] <wolfgang__> minimec| Could I be missing a plugin or driver?
[02:07] <zykotick9> user__: nfs is the *nix alternative.
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> user__: nfs is typically lighter, but smb is cool
[02:08] <minimec> wolfgang__: You don't need additional drivers... Debugging alsa can be tricky, and I am definitely not used to do that. Maybe the people in the #alsa channel can help. Explain your problem including the 'lspci | grep Audio' info. Also explain, that it works in 13.10.
[02:08] <user__> ok, is nfs setup by default in the repos and is it difficult to configure?
[02:08] <wolfgang__> minimec| ok Thanks
[02:08] <minimec> wolfgang__: no problem
[02:09] <zykotick9> !nfs | user__
[02:12] <user__> is it just me or is the ubuntu website for the us down/messing up
[02:13] <Monkeytoe> hello... I installed ubuntu 12.10 desktop... is there a way I can convert it to ubuntu server and strip the gui?
[02:13] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  now when I start computer, it doesn't appear grub, instead it direct into windows
[02:14] <gubatron> MonkeyDust, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Monkeytoe> I did that... it still boots up to ubuntu desktop
[02:14] <Monkeytoe> it only removes 65kb
[02:14] <gubatron> hmm
[02:15] <gubatron> guess you will have to do dpkg -l | less and start taking note of what you should remove
[02:15] <gubatron> or just install a server version altogether, probably faster
[02:15] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  I think it may be grub and windows exist in the same sector, how should I do,start ubuntu  from live usb and update grub?
[02:15] <shroomduke> user is that canonical.com
[02:15] <gubatron> but good question
[02:16] <shroomduke> Cannot initiate the connection to archive.canonical.com:80
[02:17] <minimec> Monkeytoe: Never did that, but this link is a quiet good solution I guess... http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/completely-remove-ubuntu-desktop/
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> shroomduke: a lot of the ubuntu sites are down atm
[02:18] <minimec> Monkeytoe: If you removed ubuntu-desktop, you have to reinstall it, before you use the command of the blog post above...
[02:18] <shroomduke> i c
[02:18] <intrader> minimet, kostcon I followed your advice about locking an application laucher to the Dash Bar. So far and icon for the executable appears in the desktop, but not in the dashbar.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> heyun, Yes you have grub in sda1 the windows partiton, testdisk will remove that. Then you use supergrub to boot into xubuntu to run the grub-install /dev/sda and update-grub then.
[02:18] <bsmith093> are the lucid repos offline now
[02:19] <wolfgang__> minimec| there is no one on alsa
[02:19] <k1l_> bsmith093: lucid desktop is out of support
[02:19] <Guest23349> wolfgang__,  there is, You are being impatient
[02:19] <Guest23349> IM on there right now
[02:19] <Guest23349> asking a question and not waiting isnt being patient
[02:19] <minimec> wolfgang__: That's odd. Try tomorrow. You might even find someone here...
[02:19] <bsmith093> k1l_: yes but are the repos down?
[02:19] <k1l_> bsmith093: no
[02:20] <kclemente> is ppa.launchpad.net down? it seems there is a connection problem when updating my sources.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, yes it is eol
[02:20] <wolfgang__> guest23349| im sorry if im growing impacient I have been trying to fix this all night.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> !eol | bsmith093
[02:20] <Guest23349> ive been trying to fix my sound issues for past 2 days...
[02:20] <bsmith093> well i cant seem to connect to archive.canonical.com
[02:21] <zykotick9> kclemente: launchpad is down, yes.  there was a twitter post...
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, There are some server problems in the canonical/ubuntu area right now, some link some don't.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> ppa's are down and some websites
[02:21] <wolfgang__> Hiw much longer untell launchpad is back up?
[02:21] <wolfgang__> *how
[02:21] <xubuntu330> HI! Can someone help me find libcec package?
[02:22] <bsmith093> ahh so its temporary, and the launchpad thing will be fixed, because i just checked and those repos arent connection either
[02:22] <SchrodingersScat> !find libcec | xubuntu330
[02:22] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: apt-cache search can also be handy
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, Yeah, it seems you are aware of the server needed though.
[02:22] <kclemente> thanks zykotick9. care to share the twitter post link?
[02:23] <bsmith093> wilee-nilee: umm, that was worded horribly what did you mean?
[02:23] <zykotick9> kclemente: sorry, i don't have it in my history.  i just logged out and back into irssi.  search for launchpad status account on twitter.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, archive.canonical.com
[02:23] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: is there a difference between libcec and libcec1?
[02:23] <bsmith093> wilee-nilee: yes?
[02:24] <minimec> kclemente: https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus/status/398980619880775680
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, Not a server exactly but link, this is a 10.04 issue it is noit supported unless it is just the server anyway.
[02:25] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: not sure about that one, 'apt-cache show libcec1' gives me, "USB CEC Adaptor communication Library" among other information you might find useful.
[02:25] <kclemente> thanks minimec, zykotick9
[02:25] <bsmith093> oh thats what you meant, yes i'm running lucid desktop, due to long running downloads and certain scripts ive been running for several months now, when they finish i'll switch to 64 bit mint+mate
[02:26] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: I installed libcec1 and the package plexhometheater is still asking me for libcec
[02:26] <wolfgang__> My internal mic Is not working in ubuntu 12.04 and from what I was told I might need to debug alsa because nothing on google helped My output of lspci | grep Audio: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[02:27] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: tried compiling from source but like most of the time it didn't worked ;)
[02:28] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: like most of the time?
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> bsmith093, On occasion we see people running the eol for various legitimate reasons, but we are limited to what canonical does with the repos is all, as for where they are at.
[02:30] <cazalla> can anyone recommend a simple to use video editor for new ubuntu user
[02:30] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: well the far I remember I never been able to compile anything ahah.. anyway the thing is I need plexhometheater.. Ive been able to install it under xubuntu 12.04 but now I am using ubuntu gnome 13.10 and I can't install it because of libcec that is missing from the repos
[02:31] <cazalla> i was using videopad on windows if that makes it any easier in suggesting an alternative
[02:31] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: ah, ok, I was about to try in xubuntu 13.04.
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> cazalla: maybe ask in #ubuntu-studio too
[02:32] <billard> I have a pc, and a laptop both running 12.04 LTS, the PC doesn't have wifi, I want to hook the two together via cat5, and use the laptop's wifi to get the pc online... any help?
[02:32] <minimec> cazalla: http://askubuntu.com/questions/5911/video-editing-software-options
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> heyun, So I'm checking that you understand that the grub bootloader is in the windows partition that is wrong and why you see a grub boot menu. It has to be removed, and put into the mbr which is sda, then you would update-grub.
[02:32] <cazalla> hitsujiTMO: thanks, will do
[02:33] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: this is really annoying.. why can't I get this package when searching on google if it is available for the 12.04 version?
[02:33] <minimec> cazalla: I rarely do video editing. I noramlly use openshot.
[02:33] <cazalla> minimec: thanks
[02:33] <waxhead_> hi everyone
[02:33] <cazalla> that program looks simple enough, just need a time line type editor
[02:33] <cazalla> i'll give that a go
[02:33] <cazalla> PiTiVi that is
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> get the torch it's waxhead_
[02:34] <waxhead_> quick question.. I want to install the nagios-plugin-contrib package onto a precise server however it's not included
[02:34] <billard> I have a pc, and a laptop both running 12.04 LTS, the PC doesn't have wifi, I want to hook the two together via cat5, and use the laptop's wifi to get the pc online... any help?
[02:34] <zykotick9> !ics | billard
[02:34] <waxhead_> what do I set up to pick up this package ? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/nagios-plugins-contrib
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: I only see the server on their site, were you using the github?
[02:35] <wolfgang__> Launchpad is back up
[02:35] <billard> thanks zykotick9, looking at it now
[02:35] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: to get the source you mean ?
[02:36] <wolfgang__> well, Im going to try to update again and see if it works
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> waxhead_, There are some server problems going on right now, if you are just trying to grab the debs.
[02:37] <maxp> Anybody know how to get scroll bars with up or down aarows?
[02:37] <waxhead_> wilee-nilee, do you mean to just down load them and install 'locally' ?
[02:37] <waxhead_> wilee-nilee, I was thinking it would be a case of adding in the repository to sources.lst but wasn't sure what repo to add.
[02:38] <zykotick9> waxhead_: do NOT add a second ubuntu repo, for a different release!
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> waxhead_, That link is quantal, I see nagios-plugins in synaptic in my precise setup. I'm not familiar with what this is or does, so help from others is more appropriate.
[02:39] <waxhead_> zykotick9, :)  Thanks for the warning...
[02:39] <wolfgang__> Launchpad.net is back up, but when I try to update it still cant connect to the repo.
[02:40] <waxhead_> wilee-nilee, nagios-plugins is fine, but it doesn't include the check_lm_sensors check that's in naigos-plugins-contrib
[02:40] <xubuntu330> SchrodingersScat: is it possible that my problems come from the server problems tonight ?
[02:40] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  But  I still not very clearly how I should do?
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> wolfgang__: not all the servers are back up yet i'd guess
 Ok, Ill wait a little longer
[02:41] <waxhead_> what threw me was it's availabe on mythbuntu, but not on the ubuntu server... took me a while to figure out the differences
[02:41] <maxp> oh wow just realized you can click the up and down in the scrollbars
[02:42] <SchrodingersScat> xubuntu330: not sure what you mean.
[02:42] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  how to boot xubuntu, make a live usb super grub?
[02:42] <itsme23662> what's up with so many ubuntu/canonical web sites being down? DoS?
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> itsme23662: power outage
[02:43] <wolfgang__> Now its down for maintenance.
[02:43] <itsme23662> oh :/ good timing lol
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> itsme23662: it would be pretty difficult to ddos an entire datacentre :P
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> heyun, Have you run the testdisk clean?
[02:44] <itsme23662> hitsujiTMO: Thanks, I hope they can get launchpad downloads working again soon
[02:44] <waxhead_> maybe I need to use pinning?
[02:45] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  yes, and now when start computer, it directly boot windows, can't enter into grub
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> heyun: when the servers are back up give https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair a try
[02:46] <user__> turns out xbmc works with ssh and sftp which i already had setup :)
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> user__: they're awful for streaming tho
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> heyun, Cool so windows boots, yer half way there excellent. So yeah down load the tiny supergrub iso and load it to a usb or disc and use it to boot xubuntu, and when there jsut run sudo grub-install /dev/sda && sudo update-grub   and yo will be all set.
[02:47] <user__> hitsujiTMO, im testing it out with my music library on my laptop, it seems to be working ok, no lag
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> heyun, supergrub is kinda a nice tool to have to boot to a OS without the correct bootloader being in the mbr.
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> user__: there's a massive overhead for both, and good luck when it comes to skipping back and forth in a movie
[02:49] <kwitt> hello
[02:49] <user__> hitsujiTMO, well, i looked into nfs and about half way thro reading how to set it up i thought it was too much configureing
[02:49] <maxp> wondering if someone can help me do simple text replacement ("aliases"?) in the terminal
[02:49] <kwitt> so I just installed ubuntu server
[02:50] <kwitt> is there any way to get a "desktop" started? :D
[02:50] <nell> has anyone here used ADHD ?
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> user__: its 1 file you need to edit (/etc/exports) and some chmoding/chowning of the parent dirs.
[02:50] <nell> It's based off ubuntu 12.04 Active Defense Harbinger Distribution (ADHD)
[02:51] <blurkis> kwitt, install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:51] <shroomduke> no but everyone here has adhd lol
[02:51] <dbb> hi all - I just tried to run apt-get update on a 10.10 maverick machine and it spews errors
[02:51] <dbb> is there no way to even update at all ?
[02:51] <dbb> naturally, the thing is running just fine
[02:51] <user__> i was reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> kwitt, or xubuntu-desktop
[02:51] <wolfgang__> dbb Some servers are down for now
[02:52] <dbb> ooohhh
[02:52] <zykotick9> !eolupgrade | dbb
[02:52] <wolfgang__> Power outage
[02:52] <user__> hitsujiTMO, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> user__: most of that is beyond a basic setup
[02:53] <user__> hitsujiTMO, will i have to do anything with the client side?
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> user__: well xbmc understands nfs iirc so its pretty easy.
[02:54] <dbb> .. people use Net-Attached Storage things these days , re NFS
[02:55] <user__> ok hitsujiTMO can you kinda walk me thro the simple way lol
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> user__: and for a normal ubuntu install, you just need nfs-common installed and you can mount with mount or in fstab
[02:55] <hitsujiTMO> user__: 2 secs
[02:55] <user__> hitsujiTMO,  the folder i want is /home/user/Music
[02:56] <vAd0r> Can someone tell me where Dynagen installs at when i use apt-get?
[02:56] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok it says nfs is newest version
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> user__: the smartest thing to do is setup a specific nfs root. i just go with /home/nfs (i'm never going to be creating a user called nfs )
[02:57] <swx> What does that mean? plexhometheater : Depends: libcec (>= 1.7) but it is not installable
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> user__: so: mkdir /home/nfs
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> user__: so: sudo mkdir /home/nfs
[02:58] <zykotick9> vAd0r: you could try "dpkg -S dynagen" assuming dynagen is the actual package name... to list the files install locations
[02:58] <user__> hitsujiTMO, okey i made the dir
[02:59] <swx> Are repos servers still haven outage ?
[02:59] <acecabana> update on a few issues: I had an issue where I would lose wi-fi connectivity after returning from hibernate and I also had an issue where my laptop was hanging on restart. Both have been resolved after changing my graphics drivers.
[02:59] <zykotick9> acecabana: i'm curious, from what to what?
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> user__: next thing is to symlink to you music: sudo ln -s /home/user/Music /home/nfs/music
[03:01] <user__> hitsujiTMO, is that all?
[03:01] <kwitt> when trying to run firefox ubuntu just tells me i havent chosen a display
[03:01] <kwitt> how the fudge to i choose display
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> user__: now install nfs related much
[03:01] <acecabana> zykotick9: 	i was using nvidia 319 (proprietary, tested) and now I'm using nvidia 319 updates(proprietary)
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> user__: now install nfs related muckery: sudo apt-get install rpcbind nfs-kernel-server
[03:03] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok now i need to add an export?
[03:03] <hitsujiTMO> user__: what network scheme are you on? 192.168.0.0/24?
[03:03] <user__> 1.1.1.1/14
[03:03] <user__> hitsujiTMO, its 1.1.1.1/24
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> user__: erm, what? thats not a valid private address range
[03:04] <Kamuela> Anywhere I can see example fully-coded model.rb'z?
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> user__: feck it just incase we'll use the wildcard
[03:04] <user__> xD
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sudo editor /etc/exports
[03:05] <hitsujiTMO> user__: what is your uid and gid?
[03:06] <user__> hitsujiTMO, whats uid and gid?
[03:07] <user__> hitsujiTMO, i see a fsid in the file?
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> user__: exit the editor a sec
[03:07] <user__> :q
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> user__: ctrl + x
[03:07] <user__> ok
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> type: id
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> it will list your uid and gid
[03:08] <user__> uid=1000(user) gid=1000(user)
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> sweet
[03:08] <dave_> join #kde-users
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sudo editor /etc/exports
[03:09] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok im back in the file
[03:10] <Erealz> can some one help me troubleshoot my ssh it was working last night then today my connection times out?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> user__: add these 2 lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385677/
[03:11] <Erealz> ssh demon is running and connecting via ssh localhost works
[03:12] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok i saved the file
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> user__: once thats done: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[03:12] <user__> hitsujiTMO, i got 4 oks
[03:12] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: sorry, i missed the beginning, is user__'s uid different on the two machines?
[03:13] <blurkis> Erealz, many reasons can be behind time out?  most likely the net went down between them?
[03:13] <user__> hitsujiTMO, did i do something wrong?
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: could be. this just ensures all access gets squashed to his user just in case.
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> user__: no.
[03:14] <Erealz> so it my isp then >
[03:15] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: mmmm, interesting.  i've never bothered with any of that "/srv/tv/        192.168.1.0/24(rw,sync,no_subtree_check)" is all i use.  i've used insecure to get OSX to connect, but other then that never had a reason for it either.  user__
[03:17] <researcher> can anybody here help me with playing audio on my laptop?
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: i use all_squash for non ldap as the same server is typically a samba server too. both shares can be used by a number of different users so i squash all to the same account for both nfs and samba
[03:17] <ianorlin> !anyone
[03:18] <heyun> wilee-nilee,  thank you ,now everything is okay
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> user__: so your nfs should be up and running, to test: install nfs-common
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> heyun, Cool, good job, we used to run into this exact problem at one time with grub.
[03:19] <user__> hitsujiTMO, on my xbmc it says it cant get a directory listing
[03:19] <magamo> Anyone have any idea when ppa.launchpad.net will be back up? I'm currently unable to use apt-get update to pull in new packages from most of my PPAs.
[03:19] <hitsujiTMO> user: from nfs? to the ip?
[03:20] <researcher> wilee-nilee: u have often helped me.Now laptop sound gone.What can be done?hardware ok
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> user__: ^^
[03:20] <user__> hitsujiTMO, yeah nfs://1.1.1.77
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> user__: we'll test it from your machine first. install nfs-common
[03:21] <user__> hitsujiTMO, it said its the newest version
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> researcher, Not sure in that area, all I would do is google and hope for the best. ;)
[03:23] <researcher> wilee-nilee: ok
[03:23] <heyun> ubottu, wilee-nilee , hitsujiTMO     Thank you all for your generous help
[03:23] <kseifried> is the entire ubuntu website down?
[03:24] <kseifried> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2024-1/ and so on gives 503 service unavailable
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> heyun, No problem, enjoy. ;)
[03:24] <kseifried> none of the ubuntu securoty pages work
[03:24] <user__> kseifried,  its down for me too
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> user__: ok, run: showmount -e <ipofyourmachine>
[03:24] <kseifried> yippeee.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> researcher, Right now the wiki on sound is down so it's a little harder to find info is all.
[03:25] <user__> hitsujiTMO, Export list for 1.1.1.77:
[03:25] <user__> /home/user/Music *
[03:25] <user__> /home/nfs        *
[03:26] <BuntuLover> Hey all :D
[03:26] <Monkeytoe> any idea when launchpad will be back up? :(
[03:26] <BuntuLover> Launchpad is down?
[03:26] <researcher> wilee-nilee: I will wait until its up
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sweet. try: mkdir ~/ma_muzaac; sudo mount -t nfs 1.1.1.77:/music ~/ma_muzaac
[03:26] <Monkeytoe> https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[03:27] <user__> hitsujiTMO, hold on is this on the server or client?
[03:27] <BuntuLover> Does anyone know the command to update the OS?
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> user__: on the server. just testing the mount
[03:27] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok ok lol
[03:28] <fudus2> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> user__: i do see where the problem might be tho. nfs-server is resolving the symlink itself, instead of just following it
[03:28] <user__> hitsujiTMO, mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 1.1.1.77:/music
[03:29] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sweet. try: mkdir ~/ma_muzaac; sudo mount -t nfs 1.1.1.77:/home/user/Music ~/ma_muzaac
[03:30] <esde> is anyone else having trouble updating the launchpad ppa repo?
[03:30] <user__> hitsujiTMO, that one went thro
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> esde: power outage in the datacenter, be back it a bit
[03:30] <esde> ty :)
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> user__, so hop into ~/ma_musaac and see if its all normal
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> user__: ls the dir or what not
[03:31] <user__> hitsujiTMO, yeah its there
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> user__: ok, umount it: sudo umount ~/ma_musaac
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> user__ gonna change the mounts to make it easier
[03:32] <user__> hitsujiTMO, umount.nfs: /home/user/ma_muzaac: device is busy
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> user__: cd ~ first
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> user__ you're in the dir
[03:33] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ahh okay i unmounted it, sorry i am a noob
[03:33] <hitsujiTMO> user__ lol np :P
[03:34] <instantp10neer> Best Live_CD_ version of Ubuntu for a P4 1.5?
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> user__: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/exports again please
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> instantp10neer: lubuntu
[03:35] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: just curious, are you adding user/users to the export options?
[03:35] <instantp10neer> has to be grandma-friendly, hitsujiTMO
[03:36] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: sorry i meant fstab... never mind ;)
[03:36] <user__> http://pastebin.com/PK8wzKWb
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: no. the data is already there under his own user, so if he want to read/write and not mess up permissions then its best to squash it to his user
[03:36] <esde> hitsujiTMO, is there another way to update to the latest openssl package?
[03:36] <Hai_Karate> ppa.launchpad.net is down just when I needed something
[03:37] <BuntuLover> Lol same here Karate
[03:37] <BuntuLover> Same here. :P
[03:37] <esde> same here
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sweet so you didn't stray from what i gave you. get rid of the first share. and swap /home/nfs/music   for /home/user/Music
[03:38] <instantp10neer> anyone?  p4-hardware-friendly livecd for grandma?
[03:38] <Hai_Karate> "Launchpad's currently offline due to a power failure. We're working to get things back up" haha
[03:38] <ianorlin> how much ram instantp10neer
[03:38] <instantp10neer> 256
[03:38] <fudus2> not even lubuntu will run on that :P
[03:38] <ianorlin> or barely if you use alt cd
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> user__: also swap nohode for fsid=0
[03:39] <esde> instantp10neer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGbZfR6Vec&list=TLuhvAM6JjgTLdmt979tgCjY7UBFkdJQOG other videos where she tries out different distros
[03:39] <esde> its a pretty good idea of what a normal person might act like on their first time using a new OS
[03:39] <minimec> instantp10neer: First... I would go for lubuntu or xubuntu. But your will have a problem, because your p4 1.5 doesn't support the kernel of the live CD, because you have a NON pae CPU. Easiest way is to install 10.04 (yes 10.04), and then do the upgrade to 12.04
[03:39] <vicsar> .
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> for you users who have no links as they are down by the great Paul Robesen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EJSkJlh_fg
[03:40] <user__> hitsujiTMO, ok now i should restart the server
[03:40] <ianorlin> I thought pentium 4 had pae
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> user__: so it should read: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385708/
[03:40] <hitsujiTMO> user__: yup restart: sudo service nfs-kernel-server restart
[03:40] <fudus2> PAE came in with Pentium Pro
[03:41] <instantp10neer> 10.04 is now consensus with #Linux
[03:41] <esde> is there another way to update openssl than using launchpad?
[03:41] <kostkon> fudus2: ie at least 14 years ago
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> instantp10neer: lubuntu should be ok for a grandma. but i would try and update the ram to 512 if you can find some sticks
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> esde: you could compile it yourself. but i'd rather wait for launchpad to be up and running agian
[03:42] <esde> compatibility issues?
[03:42] <hitsujiTMO> esde: config would be the main issue
[03:42] <esde> ah ok, ty
[03:43] <instantp10neer> esde thanks for the vid, I will likely stick with 10
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> user__: now once you've restarted we'll test again
[03:43] <minimec> instantp10neer: Forget what I said. THe P4 has pae. My Pentium M did not ;)
[03:43] <instantp10neer> Any reason not to go 10.04.4?
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> user__: showmount -e 1.1.1.77
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> instantp10neer: because its EOL
[03:44] <kostkon> instantp10neer: unsupported
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> instantp10neer, er no support and no repos for the desktop.
[03:44] <BuntuLover> Hey do you guys mind upvoting something on Cheezburger for me?
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> BuntuLover: no advertising in here
[03:44] <instantp10neer> I meant vs. 10.04
[03:44] <user__> Export list for 1.1.1.77:
[03:44] <user__> /home/user/Music *
[03:44] <BuntuLover> Oh ok o.o But is there a terminal command to update the OS?
[03:45] <user___> hello im having a problem with my sd card reader it says something about writing cache data failed, do you know what i can do?
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sweet. try: sudo mount -t nfs 1.1.1.77:/ ~/ma_musaac
[03:45] <user__> BuntuLover, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:45] <kostkon> instantp10neer: forget 10.04
[03:45] <BuntuLover> Thanks user__
[03:45] <gartral> ok all, Now I'm annoyed, I can't get the wine PPA to work, it's 404ing http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385738/
[03:46] <samyr> test
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> gartral: launchpad is down :(
[03:46] <gartral> samyr: we read!
[03:46] <user___> hitsujiTMO: how can i copy text from irssi?
[03:46] <instantp10neer> kk are you following the conversation?
[03:46] <samyr> thank you
[03:46] <user___> im running from terminal
[03:46] <vAd0r> Can someone tell me what is wrong with my screen file?  http://www.pastebin.ca/2474920
[03:46] <user__> hitsujiTMO, it mouted and my music is there
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> user___: no idea don't use it
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> user__: sweet try with xbmc now
[03:47] <gartral> hitsujiTMO: the site is up
[03:47] <user___> what?
[03:47] <user__> why is there 2 of me? D:
[03:47] <JIth> hi
[03:47] <ianorlindesktop> oh and whoever said pentium 4 didn't have pae look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385750/
[03:47] <user___> haha
[03:47] <Guest23349> guys, im trying to download something.. when is launchpad going to be up"
[03:48] <instantp10neer> lol
[03:48] <user___> thats funny
[03:48] <instantp10neer> been there bud
[03:48] <user__> its not it screwed with me for a sec im like oh no i been hacked i didnt say that
[03:48] <user___> haha
[03:48] <user___> no youre not hacked
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> user__ that fsid=0 means that the nfs root is you're music folder. so you can just moint ip:/  instead of having to mount ip:/home/user/Music    really handy
[03:48] <JIth> where is launchpad... ??
[03:48] <BuntuLover> Guest23349, Power outage in the data center, it will be back soon.
[03:48] <Guest23349> ok
[03:49] <user___> olduser: im new user then?
[03:49] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, ok ill give it a try
[03:49] <JIth> ok..
[03:49] <BuntuLover> Jith, I believe there is a power outage in the data center. Launchpad will be functional ASAP.
[03:49] <Hai_Karate> You can watch launchpad here:  https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[03:49] <olduser> user___, yes
[03:49] <BuntuLover> Jith: Engineers are working as fast as they can.
[03:49] <kostkon> ianorlindesktop: even sse2 thus you can use flash which requires it nowadays
[03:49] <cvr> why no launchpad mirrors?
[03:49] <JIth> thanks BuntuLover, Hai_Karate .. :)
[03:50] <BuntuLover> JITH: No problem.
[03:50] <gartral> BuntuLover: "engineers"? does it really take that many smart people to flip a switch? :P
[03:50] <BuntuLover> Yes. :3
[03:50] <Hai_Karate> Its down when iI really needed something bad
[03:50] <Hai_Karate> I
[03:50] <^Phantom^> beep beep
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> gartral: they need to ensure the integrity of the data and that no damage was done during the outage
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: any luck with xbmc?
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> always nice to see the armchair expert comments
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: :)
[03:52] <BuntuLover> Gartral that is true, they do need to ensure the data is unaffected.
[03:52] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, no i click on add source i go down to where i see the ip of the server when i click on it it dose nothing
[03:52] <gartral> hitsujiTMO: you mean to tell me they don't have UPSes on the file servers so they can shut down cleanly? I don't think cononical is that dumb..
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> hitsujiTMO, not yours of course. ;)
[03:52] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, but at least it shows up lol
[03:53] <James_Epp> I am attempting the guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto#Creating_your_NFS_installation". At that specific Creating NFS Installation portion, at step two it says to "Create an initrd.img file". Would someone be so kind as to elaborate as to what that means?
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> gartral: it was down for a lot longer than the life of your average ups. something may have lost power before they had time to shut it down.
[03:54] <hitsujiTMO> wilee-nilee: lol i know
[03:54] <Guest23349> hitsujiTMO,  https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[03:54] <Guest23349> theyve been down for 3 hours it states
[03:55] <xangua> and life continues
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> gartral, were you here with the expert comments on the hack of the UF?
[03:55] <kostkon> without ppas
[03:55] <Guest23349> without launchpad?! life doesnt live without ppa sir
[03:55] <waxhead_> does anyone use afraid.org for dyn dns service?
[03:55] <Guest23349> its like WoW.. we need our wow and ppa
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> i love how they had a power outage in the same datacenter in sept too :P
[03:55] <BuntuLover> I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT MY PPA
[03:56] <xangua> !ot
[03:56] <BuntuLover> Living without a ppa is like a meth addict living without meth.
[03:56] <Guest23349> Sorry xangua
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | waxhead_
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> I'm just glad ubottu isn't in the same datacentre. what would be do without him
[03:57] <zykotick9> !gender | hitsujiTMO
[03:57] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, if i could get vnc working it would be easyer to control the xbmc i can see it thro vnc but i cant control it
[03:57] <hitsujiTMO> woops sorry ubottu
[03:57] <paulmonochrome> please, go to #launchpad =)
[03:58] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: so whats exactly happening when you go to try to mount on xbmc?
[03:58] <waxhead_> hitsujiTMO, lol... fair enough..
[03:58] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, sorry im new to this im still figureing out xbmc
[03:59] <Guest23349> quick question, Is xbmc soemthing related to xbox retrieving data from computers?
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: you could try being more verbose about your mount and mount 1.1.1.77:/home/user/Music
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> waxhead_: so what seems to be the problem ?
[04:00] <kostkon> Guest23349: nope
[04:00] <Guest23349> kostkon,  ok
[04:00] <waxhead_> a general question of how long it can take for a IP address change to be reflected with afraid's services
[04:00] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, hold on im sshing into the xbmc
[04:01] <topper4125> Guest23349, its kind of like mythbuntu, with out all the extra work
[04:01] <somsip> waxhead_: depends on the TTL for the DNS manager
[04:01] <hitsujiTMO> Guest23349: xbmc = XBox Media Center .... its an app that begun on the original XBox as XBox Media Player and became the defunct standard for media player design as it grew
[04:01] <BuntuLover> guest23349: Nope.. afaik XBMC has no connection to Microsoft.
[04:01] <BuntuLover> :P
[04:01] <waxhead_> somsip, hmmm good point...
[04:01] <waxhead_> somsip, bit rusty on this stuff.. I'll go check
[04:02] <Guest23349> I know it doesnt have connection to microsucks.. But i thought it was related to xbox as it provides  data from pc to xbox for music videos ..etc
[04:02] <hitsujiTMO> Guest23349: it began as homebrew software for a modded xbox
[04:03] <waxhead_> hmmm.. an hour I gather by the SOA...
[04:04] <somsip> waxhead_: so you should be looking at an hour at the latest, depending if afraid.org cache entries normally
[04:04] <hitsujiTMO> waxhead_: shouldn't take that long. its a 5min TTL
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> waxhead_: how are you updating your address?
[04:05] <waxhead_> hitsujiTMO, where did you see it was a 5min ttl?
[04:05] <waxhead_> hitsujiTMO, it's updated from the adsl router
[04:05] <waxhead_> it's resolving to the right IP now
[04:05] <waxhead_> so it's fairly quick...
[04:05] <olduser> hitsujiTMO, it is working i owe you one
[04:07] <maujhsn> SASL: added ubuntu: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> waxhead_: I can't remember, it was during the initial setup i spotted that. With a paid acocunt you can specify a shorter TTL, but there's no need. if its taking longer that 5mins to change IPs for you then it's your DNS ignoring short TTLs
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: sweet
[04:07] <maujhsn> SASL: added audacity: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:07] <waxhead_> hitsujiTMO, NP.. thanks
[04:08] <maujhsn> SASL: added ffmpeg: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:10] <maujhsn> SASL: added pulseaudio: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: morning lotuspsychje
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: hello mate :p
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> lotuspsychje: for once, this is me up early and not late :P
[04:12] <maujhsn> SASL: added kdenlive: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:12] <pixiebit> Why do people hate Unity so much?
[04:13] <BuntuLover> Pixiebit. Idk but I love it :D
[04:13] <topper4125> pixiebit, lack of customization without a lot of works
[04:13] <mrafiq_> how to start programming in c in ubuntu
[04:13] <BuntuLover> Idc about customization. I love my desktop uncluttered. :3
[04:13] <samyr> this is a good question
[04:14] <cfhowlett> mrafiq_, ask in ##c
[04:14] <hitsujiTMO> pixiebit: its gpu intensive is the main pita
[04:14] <sabazyo> hello
[04:14] <pixiebit> Why is it gpu intensive?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> mrafiq_: or ##programming
[04:14] <cfhowlett> sabazyo, greetings
[04:14] <topper4125> The ad-lens wasn't really appealing either... and in the world of netbooks, and small screen laptops, the vertical bar is a lot of wasted screen real estate.
[04:14] <maujhsn> SASL: added wikinews-feeds: [PLAIN] maujhsn *
[04:14] <mrafiq_> where to ask
[04:14] <pixiebit> Or, moreso than other user interfaces?
[04:15] <sabazyo> ppa.launchpad.net is down ?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> maujhsn, your posts have nothing to do with ubuntu.  are you in the right channel?
[04:15] <hitsujiTMO> pixiebit: the main annoyance is the background blur. such filters are quite computationally expensive. Without a fast enough gpu it slows down the desktop experience for a lot of users.
[04:15] <xangua> topper4125: apearence > behavior > hide launcher
[04:16] <topper4125> sudo apt-get install xfce4 was easier to find lol
[04:16] <pixiebit> I heard lxde was great, but out of the box it looks terrible.
[04:17] <topper4125> actually to be honest... I just perfer xfce over others...
[04:17] <topper4125> but I don't necessarily 'hate' any of them.
[04:17] <ianorlindesktop> !best
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> pixiebit: also a lot of people have issues with the hud. The hud is designed for speed, if you roughly know waht you're looking for, if not its longer to click your way to the menu bar. the hud also takes focus off the app breaking some keyboard shortcuts in some apps, particularly terminal apps
[04:17] <mrafiq_> can i find effective recovery programs
[04:17] <ianorlindesktop> it applies to desktop enviormnets as well
[04:17] <mrafiq_> i need disk recovery programs
[04:17] <xangua> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get install unity-tweaktool
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> !info photorec | mrafiq_
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | mrafiq_
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> mrafiq_: use sudo photorec from terminal after installing testdisk
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> mrafiq_: its the best data recovery package ever
[04:18] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: yes, i know, just explaining the general issues
[04:21] <esde> how can i upgrade openssh to 6.4? is there any official support for that version?
[04:21] <hitsujiTMO> esde: official support is for whats in the repo only
[04:21] <esde> okey dokey
[04:23] <hitsujiTMO> esde: is there a particular reason you want 6.4 and not 5.9?
[04:23] <esde> id like to know if it support forward secrecy
[04:24] <sabazyo> you know when ppa.launchpad.net be operational again ?
[04:25] <esde> when the downtime is over
[04:26] <esde> **badum tiss** -  anywho, power issues. in their topic #launchpad it says they're working on it
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> esde: thats an OLD feature
[04:26] <esde> Ok, ty
[04:26] <hitsujiTMO> esde: part of current openssh
[04:26] <esde> Sweet
[04:27] <esde> Is it supported in openssl as well?
[04:27] <ddaaa> guys, I have a problem with my ubuntu software centr
[04:27] <esde> ppa is down
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> esde: it should be. that's a really old feature.
[04:27] <ddaaa> Well, when I try to open the Biology, or Chemistry under S&E, nothing happens
[04:27] <ddaaa> it just keeps loading
[04:28] <esde> ddaaa, maybe in a launchpad.net repo. which would be down.
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ddaaa: maybe try to type a package name for that category
[04:29] <ddaaa> esde, This has been happenening for a long time. Not just today.
[04:29] <esde> ahh
[04:29] <esde> nvm then
[04:29] <topper4125> ddaaa, they both work fine for me (12.04 LTS 64x)
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ddaaa: software centre can be bit laggy for older systems aswell, yours is recent?
[04:29] <topper4125> and on my netbook (lts 32x)
[04:29] <ddaaa> lotuspsycheje, I am able to search it. I can even see the packages in all packages. But, it's just the catagories that don't work.
[04:30] <hitsujiTMO> ddaaa: run: sudo apt-get update     and try again
[04:30] <ddaaa> lotuspsychje, 4GB RAM, i3 processor.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> ddaaa: so unfolding the tree on category keeps loading?
[04:30] <ddaaa> hitsujiTMO, I have done that. Doesn't fix the problem.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: can he start software centre from terminal?
[04:30] <ddaaa> lotuspsychje, yes. Precisely.
[04:31] <hitsujiTMO> ddaaa: lotuspsychje, ddaaa, yes run software-center from terminal
[04:31] <sake531> Hello
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> sake531: hello, what can we do for you?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> ddaaa: maybe some relevant info will show
[04:32] <ddaaa> hitsujiTMO, alright. I'll do that and paste bin the results.
[04:33] <ddaaa> guys, I don't know how, but it works this time.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> hmmm
[04:33] <hitsujiTMO> ddaaa: if nothing major shows up there you can try and reinstall software center: sudo apt-get install --reinstall software-center
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> ddaaa: thats a little bizarre
[04:34] <pixiebit> Should I install "Ubuntu Base"? I'm scared.
[04:34] <hitsujiTMO> pixiebit: for server?
[04:34] <pixiebit> No, personal
[04:34] <ddaaa> hitsujiTMO, I'll try running it directly, if it doesn't show anything, I'll reinstall SC. Thanks for you help, hitsujiTMO, and lotuspsychje.
[04:37] <topper4125> if you are interested in an alternative to Software Center: take a look at: http://itsfoss.com/app-grid-lighter-alternative-ubuntu-software-center/
[04:39] <siberiannerd> could someone try to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/bumblebee/stable/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg please? not sure if i have problems with my local isp or...
[04:39] <topper4125> ppa is having power issues, they are working on it
[04:39] <psryn> I am getting this message while trying to boot : "Kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill the idle task!
[04:40] <siberiannerd> topper4125, thanks
[04:40] <acecabana> can someone tell me more or less what this line means
[04:40] <siberiannerd> psryn, other kernel versions behave the same?
[04:40] <hitsujiTMO> psryn: is there more info above that?
[04:40] <acecabana> sudo dd if=/path/to/CentOSiso of=/dev/sdb (path of the USB device) bs=1M
[04:41] <BuntuLover> Siberiannerd: PPA is having issues with their power. Canonical is working as fast as people to bring it back  up to operational status.
[04:41] <siberiannerd> acecabana, `man dd`
[04:41] <siberiannerd> BuntuLover, thanks
[04:41] <acecabana> siberiannerd: wha'ts dd
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !dd | acecabana
[04:41] <psryn> hitsujiTMO, yes but I can't pastee it all, since that was my only computer
[04:42] <acecabana> i asked on another channel and someone said a bra size
[04:42] <acecabana> !t dd
[04:42] <BuntuLover> SiberianNerd: No problem. There is a twitter feed to check the status(:
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> acecabana: man dd
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> psryn: can you take a photo?    and do you have a live cd handy?
[04:42] <psryn> I have a livecd, yes
[04:42] <hitsujiTMO> psryn: also as siberiannerd suggested, have to tried an older kernel?
[04:42] <BuntuLover> @launchpadstatus on twitter.
[04:43] <psryn> yes
[04:43] <siberiannerd> psryn, other kernel versions behave the same? can i you choose some previous kernel version in that first boot menu?
[04:43] <siberiannerd> they all behave the same?
[04:43] <psryn> I chose two of the older ones, but one froze up annd the. other gave the samme masg
[04:44] <hitsujiTMO> psryn: boot the live cd
[04:44] <psryn> *message
[04:44] <psryn> ok
[04:44] <JordanJ2> Is Ubuntu resource intensive?
[04:44]  * topper4125 wonders if 'dd' is supposed to be 'do'?
[04:44] <reisio> JordanJ2: compared to what
[04:44] <BuntuLover> Jordan: I'm running Ubuntu on 1gb of Ram
[04:44] <BuntuLover> Intel Atom Processor
[04:44] <BuntuLover> N455
[04:44] <JordanJ2> reisio, Windows
[04:45] <JordanJ2> What version, BuntuLover?
[04:45] <reisio> topper4125: it's an actual command, dd, be careful with it
[04:45] <reisio> JordanJ2: nope, not compared to Windows
[04:45] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: its a little lighter than windows
[04:45] <BuntuLover> Ubuntu 12.04
[04:45] <JordanJ2> Higher?
[04:46] <JordanJ2> So MORE resource intensive?
[04:46] <siberiannerd> psryn, since when it started? can you at least approximately draw imaginary timeline of this disaster? )
[04:46] <reisio> JordanJ2: light-er, he said
[04:46] <BuntuLover> Haven't tried it with a newer version.
[04:46] <psryn> siberrianerd, today
[04:46] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: lighter = less resource intensive
[04:46] <BuntuLover> But it runs just fine with my little Lenovo S100
[04:46] <JordanJ2> *facepalm*
[04:46] <JordanJ2> Yes I know, read that wrong
[04:46] <siberiannerd> psryn, any updates?
[04:46] <BuntuLover> JordanJ2, I'm running Ubuntu on a Lenovo IdeaPad S100
[04:47] <siberiannerd> like maybe you was updating the system
[04:47] <psryn> am uploading photograph
[04:47] <JordanJ2> So not durasticlly lighter?
[04:47] <BuntuLover> ^.^
[04:47] <topper4125> reisio, just checked it in man... never used it before... and ya... looks like its something you want to double check you have your command typed out perfectly with it.
[04:47] <samyr> I'm running Ubuntu on a Asus K45VM notebook
[04:47] <pnorman> dd is a command where if you mess it up it's fairly easy to wipe your hard drive
[04:47] <BuntuLover> JordanJ2 Only way to know is to run Ubuntu off a flash drive
[04:48] <reisio> topper4125: yes indeed
[04:48] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: i wouldn't say drastically but, it is noticeably less cpu and ram intensive. I would say that unity is a bit more gpu intensive tho
[04:48] <olduser> ok so one time i spent a lot of time compileing drivers for a usb wireless adapter, i had to recompile the whole kernel from my understanding, instead if doing that whole prossess again can i just move the kernel from one box to another
[04:48] <reisio> topper4125: the value of the of= bit, really
[04:48] <JordanJ2> gpu means?
[04:48] <reisio> graphis processing unit
[04:48] <BuntuLover> Graphical Processing Unit
[04:48] <JordanJ2> ._.
[04:48] <reisio> graphics*
[04:48] <JordanJ2> Will that make a difference while playing games?
[04:49] <hitsujiTMO> JordanJ2: no
[04:49] <reisio> JordanJ2: will what?
[04:49] <curatrix> gpu   = go play urban terror ;)
[04:49] <siberiannerd> olduser, look at "dkms" also and yeah if arch is the same and you have all necessary modules
[04:49] <reisio> JordanJ2: default Ubuntu uses a hardware accelerated window manager
[04:49] <reisio> JordanJ2: so does default Windows
[04:49] <reisio> the comparison is void
[04:49] <adam_> Can you use wine to install Call of duty modern warfare 2? It's a steam game
[04:50] <olduser> siberiannerd, yeah its the same exact hardware
[04:50] <JordanJ2> Ok
[04:50] <BuntuLover> Adam_ Check the wineHQ for compatibility status.
[04:50] <reisio> adam_: yes
[04:50] <hitsujiTMO> adam_: install yes, play .... i doubt it
[04:50] <siberiannerd> olduser, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DKMS this could be superb solution
[04:51] <pnorman> I would say that on an older computer it takes less work to make ubuntu perform at an acceptable level than Windows 7 does. I'd place Windows 8 as somewhere between the two, but don't have as much experience.
[04:51] <adam_> I successfully played Portal 2. No lags. Posted like it did on Windows on the same machine
[04:51] <topper4125> I've seen a few reviews comparing games run with a Unity DE, and again with XFCE.... some... (only some) of the games ran faster with xfce... the ones that did though were pretty graphic intensive.
[04:51] <r0gnab0x> hello
[04:51] <reisio> topper4125: entirely possible
[04:51] <adam_> Played
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> pnorman: loose windows once and for good and install ubuntu on full hd
[04:51] <adam_> +1
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: the other option is to put the kernel on hold so it doesn't get updated.
[04:52] <SDr> hi ubuntu,
[04:52]  * topper4125 stopped using win after XP
[04:52] <hitsujiTMO> olduser: that's something you'd do on a non mission critical system tho :P
[04:52] <siberiannerd> olduser, it will recompile your module for newer version of kernels which arrive with updates, all you will need to do is to keep an eye on if the driver is included in newer kernel or not and make a decision if you will continue to use yours
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> topper4125: same here
[04:52] <SDr> using ubuntu 10.04 LTS, this was intended to automagically bring nginx up on boot: http://pastebin.com/xrihJsZv  ; however, upon reboot, nginx fails to start; no errors on boot screen. Any ideas what I should be looking at?
[04:53] <siberiannerd> there are some step-by-step howtos i bet on how to achieve that with given source of the driver ;)
[04:53] <BuntuLover> SDr. Using Ubuntu 12.04 here
[04:53] <JordanJ2> I'm on 13.10
[04:53] <olduser> well i went thro all of this on my old harddrive and now i have a new harddrive
[04:53] <pnorman> lotuspsychje: I thought about for someone's Athelon 64-based netbook last week, but opted against it
[04:54] <pixiebit> Do you guys run vms to play games in windows
[04:54] <reisio> I play the game of life
[04:54] <reisio> more realistic
[04:54] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: is it actually calling nginx on boot?
[04:54] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, any way I can figure that out?
[04:54] <pixiebit> Okay but you can't play the game of life.
[04:54] <pixiebit> It's zero players.
[04:54] <BuntuLover> Can Buntu run World of Tanks?
[04:54] <topper4125> I don't even have wine installed... lolz... I do use DOSBox though... for BardsTale
[04:55] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, there's nothing on Lish
[04:55] <pixiebit> Wine doesn't work or is hard to configure for some 3d games.
[04:55] <curatrix> playonlinux gets wine working like it should
[04:56] <pixiebit> Okay but try playing cube world on linux
[04:56] <r0gnab0x> hola alguien abla español
[04:56] <xangua> !es | r0gnab0x
[04:56] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: nginx logs would be a good start, or replace env DAEMON=/usr/sbin/nginx with a command to log a start call, such as: env DAEMON=/bin/echo "Started" > /tmp/zomg-start-waz-called
[04:58] <reisio> BuntuLover: yes
[04:58] <topper4125> the bardstale game I play was release in 1986... not the 2004 version that ran on the Baldur's Gate engine.
[05:00] <BuntuLover> Oohh playing old DOS games I see topper/
[05:00] <BuntuLover> ?
[05:00] <BuntuLover> (:
[05:00] <topper4125> :)
[05:01] <topper4125> that is my favorite all time game ever... still play it fairly often
[05:02] <shroomduke> it's a jungle out there
[05:02] <shroomduke> do you know whats in the water you drink
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lets stick to ubuntu support guys
[05:03]  * topper4125 doesn't trust water that isn't chewy...
[05:03] <dragonjunkies> lol
[05:04] <shroomduke> i'm singing, sorry
[05:04] <shroomduke> got carried away
[05:04] <Slade-> so I need to run php as fastcgi for nginx integration..  i think the package i want is php-fpm  can anyone tell me if thats right?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> there's a nice channel called #ubuntu-offtopic where you can chitchat all night funny
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> topper4125, gotta get your heavy metals somehow.
[05:05] <reisio> Slade-: that's right
[05:05] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: yes
[05:05] <Slade-> reisio: any idea where i set the socket/listen?
[05:05] <psryn> did you guys see the image?
[05:05] <shroomduke> thanks, i'll use it
[05:05] <reisio> Slade-: that's configurable
[05:05] <Slade-> reisio: yea i cant figure out where
[05:06] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: if its same machine then use a unix socket in /tmp   doing it in run requires a bit if tweaking
[05:06] <reisio> Slade-: it'll be in a config file provided by the php package
[05:06] <reisio> Slade-: dpkg -L php-fpm | grep etc
[05:06] <Slade-> yea i see the config files. i just dont see em in there. course they're so long i may be going blind
[05:07] <reisio> Slade-: it's php-fpm.conf on this non-Ubuntu system I have
[05:07] <reisio> grep for 'listen'
[05:07] <Slade-> oh wait. i installed php5-fpm  not php-fpm
[05:07] <olduser> if i need to download the kernel headers, how will i know what one i need?
[05:07] <BuntuLover> Non ubuntu? What do you run reisio?
[05:07] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: should be in sites-enabled
[05:08] <reisio> BuntuLover: something else
[05:08] <Slade-> hitsujiTMO: that'd be for nginx wouldnt it?
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: no i think php-fpm has a similar folder
[05:08] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, done that, /tmp/zomg wasn't created
[05:08] <BuntuLover> Reisio: Running Ubuntu 12.04 here
[05:08] <BuntuLover> LTS
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> SDr, then its an issue with tht
[05:08] <reisio> BuntuLover: farout
[05:08] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: then its an issue with that conf.
[05:09] <Slade-> oh whats the difference between the php5-fpm and php-fpm package?
[05:09] <shroomduke> why don't I have a link to my sound card in settings?
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: php5-fpm = php5 engine. php-fpm = default engine... which is php5
[05:09] <reisio> heh
[05:09] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: they should be the same thing
[05:09] <Slade-> err ok
[05:10] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: don't have php-fpm installed atm, so can you humour me and: ls -l /etc/php5
[05:11] <Slade-> hitsujiTMO: i'll keep peeking i think i see what you mean :)
[05:11] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, what's weird, is even after running initctl reload-configuration   , initctl list fails to show nginx
[05:11] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, and similarly,  status nginx    gives    status: Unknown job: nginx
[05:12] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: you have that saved as /etc/init/nginx.conf ?
[05:12] <sabazyo_> wow a lot of disconnection
[05:12] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, yes
[05:13] <Slade-> hitsujiTMO: i think its in /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d
[05:13] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: ahh yeah thats the one.... there should be a default pool in there
[05:14] <Slade-> uses its own php.ini and everything, very weird
[05:14] <Slade-> thanks :)
[05:14] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: you should have a different pool for each set of apps so if a pool crashes, it doens't take everything else down
[05:14] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, initctl list | grep filesystem      is also empty. could there be a dependency issue? (nginx conf 6th line: "   start on (filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=lo)
[05:14] <SDr>  ")
[05:15] <Slade->  /var/run/php5-fpm.sock
[05:15] <msx> sabazyo_: there's been a lot of netsplits lately :P
[05:15] <SDr> hitsujiTMO (yes, nginx.conf  is in /etc/init/ )
[05:15] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=lo is more or less runlevel [2345]   so try changing that first
[05:16] <Slade-> hitsujiTMO: and this is better than using the php5-cgi package for fastcgi right?
[05:16] <Slade-> i like that it auto installs :P
[05:16] <Slade-> err auto installs the startup
[05:16] <hitsujiTMO> Slade-: yes, php-fpm is the preffered engine
[05:17] <gumby> hi all.  running 10.04 here and added a ppa no problem however an apt-get update cant connect to the ppa, all other repos have no issues.  anyone else experiencing this?
[05:17] <krimebin> Hello. All
[05:18] <shhhhhhhhhhhhhh> I had a boyfriend named ubuntu once
[05:18] <shhhhhhhhhhhhhh> He would play the bongos on my ass
[05:19] <krimebin> ;-)
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: one thing to do is start by simplifying the conf: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/6385956/
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> have not seen that for awhile, lol
[05:19] <hitsujiTMO> gumby: ppas are down atm
[05:19] <imyousuf> Is ppa.launchpad.net down?
[05:19] <gumby> imyousuf, I'm seeing the same
[05:20] <cpatrick08> me too
[05:20] <gumby> d'oh!  darn.  was just trying to get mythtv 0.27 setup for the woman
[05:20] <cpatrick08> is there a ETA for it being fixed
[05:20] <BuntuLover> Yes imyousuf and gumby.
[05:20] <gumby> thanks hitsujiTMO and BuntuLover
[05:20] <BuntuLover> It is down because of a power outage.
[05:20] <hitsujiTMO> no eta yet.
[05:20] <BuntuLover> Canonical engineers are working quickly to resolve the issue at this point in time.
[05:20] <gumby> out of curiosity, how long has it been out for?
[05:20] <hitsujiTMO> gumby about 4 hrs now
[05:21] <imyousuf> Thanks for the update.
[05:21] <gumby> darn, thats no good.  hopefully (for them and everyone else, not necessarily me) they get it back online soon\
[05:21] <BuntuLover> Downtime could be awhile. If you wish there is a twitter feed you can watch @launchpadstatus
[05:27] <SDr> siberiannerd, it's, like, config.sys needs to run before autoexec.bat
[05:28] <gumby> I think my issuei s the result of a dist-upgrade
[05:28] <siberiannerd> you're on the right direction if you're looking for sequence configuration
[05:28] <BuntuLover> Gumby: I am wary of trying to upgrade my 12.04 LTS to ver 13
[05:28] <BuntuLover> Lol
[05:29] <topper4125> I only upgrade LTS to LTS...
[05:29] <ton> the Software updater is remining now and message: Checking for updates.. Finished.
[05:29] <BuntuLover> Topper same here
[05:29] <ton> How to fix
[05:29] <BuntuLover> I like support for  a few years, not 9 months.
[05:30] <topper4125> me too
[05:30] <Blaster> hey I am using php5-oldstable but when I try to apt-get install php5-curl I am getting this:  https://gist.github.com/redstar504/589882e0a85cdb9bdea3
[05:30] <Blaster> Any ideas?
[05:30] <topper4125> Gives me more time to 'use' the system rather than 'maintain' it
[05:31] <siberiannerd> sometimes non-lts versions come with some fixes faster
[05:32] <siberiannerd> Blaster, https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[05:32] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: so ... nginx -s starts the nginx daemon
[05:32] <Blaster> siberiannerd: thanks
[05:32] <hitsujiTMO> Sdr: sorry, nginx -t     right?
[05:32] <Blaster> siberiannerd: that means I have to stop developing though ;"(
[05:33] <cpatrick08> put the twitter in status
[05:33] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, no, nginx -t   tests the configuration; it's used pre-start to see if everything's fine
[05:33] <siberiannerd> Blaster, maybe not if ppa is not the only source for the package or if you can build it manually
[05:33] <wolfgang__> My mice wont work on ubuntu 12.04 due to some issue with pulse, It works just fine in 13.10 and windows 8. I haver tried a lot off of google, how can I fix this? Please help.
[05:33] <SDr> simply calling /usr/sbin/nginx starts the demon, and forks it into the background
[05:33] <wolfgang__> *mic not mice
[05:34] <siberiannerd> SDr, https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot
[05:34] <Blaster> siberiannerd:  how could I use another source for php5-curl?
[05:34] <nexus4> What's latest version Ubuntu?
[05:34] <cpatrick08> nexus4, 13.10
[05:34] <topper4125> !latest
[05:35] <topper4125> oops that wasn't right lol
[05:35] <siberiannerd> Blaster, /etc/apt/sources.list or that gui thing to configure mirrors and software sources, maybe disabling ppa for a while is a good idea
[05:35] <topper4125> !raring
[05:35] <nexus4> Ok !
[05:35] <siberiannerd> i can see the package from here without any ppas
[05:35] <topper4125> that's the one I was looking for
[05:35] <cpatrick08> !saucy
[05:36] <cpatrick08> !trusty
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> topper4125: !releasenotes?
[05:36] <topper4125> it was wrong... but it was what I was looking for lolz
[05:36] <SDr> siberiannerd, so, we are trying to use upstart here
[05:36] <imemyself> hi guys.. i'm trying to install feedler on elementaryos.. added the ppa.. and can find it but can't install..
[05:37] <SDr> siberiannerd, so tyvm, "not fit for purose"
[05:37] <SDr> purpose
[05:37] <siberiannerd> oh sorry =)
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> imemyself: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[05:37] <cpatrick08> imemyself, ppas down see https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus for updates
[05:37] <imemyself> woah..
[05:37] <hitsujiTMO> Sdr: ok, maybe try this first: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386033/
[05:38] <wolfgang__> My mic wont work on ubuntu 12.04 due to some issue with pulse, It works just fine in 13.10 and windows 8. I haver tried a lot off of google, how can I fix this? Please help.
[05:38] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: once you know its working then add the respawn, etc
[05:38] <shroomduke> did you check the mute
[05:38] <curatrix> wolfgang__: install pavucontrol if it isnt already ............ type pavucontrol in a terminal
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: try to find some pulseaudio errors in /var/log/syslog.1
[05:39] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, start: Job failed to start
[05:39] <shroomduke> I couldn't help myself
[05:39] <imemyself> @cpatrick thx buddy...
[05:39] <cpatrick08> no proble imemyself
[05:41] <Goonbridge> hi everyone, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 13.10 setting the resolution to 1024x768 when my display connected via hdmi is turned off during boot. When I turn the display on, it defaults to the correct 1920x1080 resolution, but it causes a problem with XBMC which is configured to launch on startup. Is there a way I can force the resolution to always be 1920x1080?
[05:41] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, tried removing the 	[ ! $DAEMON -t ] && { stop; exit 0; }    pre-check line , and moving the exec $DAEMON at the bottom of the script; neither of which was able to start it
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: comment out the test line and try it.
[05:42] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, just did.
[05:42] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: leave exec in the script section tho
[05:43] <cyruscloud> How do I stop the screen from going black after just 3 minutes? I've searched for a solution for this through google with the dpms codes to enter in the terminal, but it's not doing anything. I've done xset -dpms off, setterm -blank 0, and more
[05:43] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje It is a configuration error Its not showing up, it only shows up in aslamixer, but nothing pulse, and things arent going right its all confused and screwed up.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> cyruscloud, 12.04?
[05:43] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/8B3B2BeZ
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: you might wanna try what curatrix sugested
[05:44] <topper4125> cyruscloud, check power saver settings, *and* screensaver.
[05:44] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: and you don't have a conflicting /etc/init.d/nginx ?
[05:44] <SDr> tail: cannot open `/etc/init.d/nginx' for reading: No such file or directory
[05:44] <cyruscloud> no Wilee. Already checked power saver settings and screensaver. Not doin ganything either
[05:44] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje Of course I have it....
[05:44] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, no, I do not.
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> !tab | cyruscloud
[05:45] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje I talked to some guy for around 2 hours and we couldnt come to a conclusion.
[05:45] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: if you just run nginx as root now will it run?
[05:45] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, but I did had one before trying the upstart route, and I removed it via deleting the script.
[05:45] <cyruscloud> !tab
[05:45] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, yes.
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !pulseaudio | wolfgang__
[05:45] <nexus4> Having trouble removing worm from mom's laptop. Any easy way to get her to use Ubuntu live cd without confusion?
[05:46] <cyruscloud> !tab|
[05:46] <reisio> nexus4: depends on how malleable her mind is :)
[05:46] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje How does that help anything?
[05:46] <ianmac1> nexus4, Well, going from windows to linux is going to involve a learning curve
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: did you try pulseaudio restart?
[05:47] <topper4125> cyruscloud, did you try xset s 0 0 (found it here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/291135/how-to-stop-screen-going-black-after-10-min )
[05:47] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: whats the exact error from service nginx start?
[05:47] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje Its not going to be a simple fix, I have tried completly altering settings, everything I could find on google, restarting, uninstalling and reinstalling, rebooting my computer.
[05:48] <nexus4> Reisio not main question is there an online step by step manual to run virus scanner.
[05:48] <Jie> hey
[05:48] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/rGaGxJfs
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: maybe other drivers?
[05:48] <reisio> nexus4: there probably is :) you only really need to install clamav and run a clamscan
[05:48] <reisio> Jie: hi
[05:48] <BuntuLover> IanMAC1 My transition from Full windows to full linux wasn't much of a learning cruve.
[05:48] <wolfgang__> I dont even know where to get the drivers, ubuntus driver thing says I dont need any more drivers
[05:48] <BuntuLover> Curve*
[05:49] <reisio> nexus4: sudo apt-get install clamav
[05:49] <BuntuLover> I used a smaller distro before coming to Ubuntu
[05:49] <cyruscloud> When I enter some of the codes in the terminal and press enter, it'll just do nothing, but skip to the next line. I don't know if that means it works or not...
[05:49] <reisio> nexus4: and then mount the Windows FS, sudo ntfs-3g /dev/whatever /mnt/point
[05:49] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: ahhh, remove the exec before $DAEMON
[05:49] <wolfgang__> lotuspsychje IM considering just switching to debian
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: makes no sense mate, it should be able to fix
[05:50] <reisio> nexus4: and then clamscan -l /mnt/point/log --detect-pua=yes -ir /mnt/point
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> wolfgang__: re-ask your issue once in a while im sure someone will fix
[05:50] <wolfgang__> Does the debian live have a partitioning tool like gparted?
[05:50] <nexus4> Windows crap wants you to pay to fix viruses found. Mother has nasty worm and 1,600 other viruses mostly adware and spy ware.
[05:50] <reisio> wolfgang__: #debian would know
[05:50] <BuntuLover> Nexus4 what about MBAM?
[05:51] <BuntuLover> MBAM has a pretty good on-demand scanner.
[05:51] <reisio> nexus4: that can be hard to get rid of, since a lot of it can be things a person actually accidentally voluntarily installed
[05:51] <reisio> nexus4: that and since Windows has no package manager
[05:51] <topper4125> cyruscloud, xset command is for setting user preferences to x with out opening .conf files... just have to 'wait and see' if it does the fix.
[05:51] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: i think the exec is incompatable with the forking: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386065/ should get it going
[05:51] <siberiannerd> nexus4, drweb live cd
[05:53] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, nope, that still failed to start the process
[05:53] <topper4125> fdisk was the best anti-virus ever... just drop the partition, and start over...
[05:53] <SDr> hitsujiTMO with same error message
[05:53] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, however, what did work, was exec /usr/sbin/nginx
[05:53] <nexus4> Siberiannerd will look into it before mother crashes laptop. She doesn't understand malicious software or quit pressing ok to every pop up! :-(
[05:54] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, so here's a very, very stupid question. how come env DAEMON=/usr/sbin/nginx
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> nexus4, What windows release and does she still want windows?
[05:54] <siberiannerd> nexus4, http://download.geo.drweb.com/pub/drweb/livecd/drweb-livecd-602.iso
[05:54] <SDr> hitsujiTMO DOES NOT set the $DAEMON variable?!
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: can you comment out the test again.
[05:54] <nexus4> Ok thanks! All!
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: it sets the $DAEMON var within the lifespan of that upstart script
[05:54] <hitsujiTMO> SDr. Not globally
[05:55] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, start: Job failed to start
[05:55] <SDr> with your script, minus the test line
[05:56] <johndude> hello , what is the simplest way (command via shell) to say copy latest modified(within the choice of the user) files ina folder to another folder?
[05:56] <Hai_Karate> .
[05:56] <johndude> for ubuntu 12.04 server
[05:57] <curatrix>   cp /path  /path
[05:57] <curatrix> alternatively   man cp
[05:57] <nexus4> How long has dr. Web been around?
[05:58] <siberiannerd> john-mcaleely, find /path/folder1 -name 'file' -exec cp /folder2 {} \;
[05:58] <johndude> curatix thanx but i need to use modification parameters like modified in 2 days, modified today, etc etc
[05:58] <siberiannerd> `man find` also
[05:58] <siberiannerd> to be specific on creation date, modifying, owner, etc
[05:58] <siberiannerd> johndude,
[05:58] <johndude> siberiannerd let me take a look. but can u give an example on the example above for "modified today"?
[05:59] <siberiannerd> sorry john-mcaleely
[05:59] <johndude> lol it s okay ty, i am following you
[05:59] <siberiannerd> http://www.mydigitallife.info/find-files-that-are-modified-today-or-since-certain-time-ago-in-unix/
[05:59] <siberiannerd> but basically `man find`
[06:00] <johndude> ty very much siberiannerd
[06:00] <SDr> oooooohkay, so now I can start / stop nginx ; however, it still fails to come up boot time
[06:00] <cpatrick08> ppas working for me now
[06:01] <nilo> hi everyone
[06:01]  * topper4125 wondering if cp -update is what johndud is looking for?
[06:01] <topper4125> *johndude... sorry 'bout that
[06:01] <nilo> womebody could help me to configure my webcam in ubuntu 13.10 please
[06:02] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: 2 secs, install ing nginx to have a look
[06:02] <nilo> could somebody help me to configure my  webcam please
[06:02] <cpatrick08> nilo, install cheese
[06:02] <nilo> i already install cheese, but this programs not run,
[06:03] <cpatrick08> nilo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[06:03] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, did a quick cat /var/log/syslog | grep nginx    in the meanwhile: http://pastebin.com/1Esiwbfi
[06:03] <nilo> I installed guvcview too but not running
[06:03] <johndude> np topper4125
[06:03] <BreezyBanana> Hi um.. this occurs on boot (both with Ubuntu 13.10 and Linux Mint)
[06:03] <BreezyBanana> https://vimeo.com/78970982
[06:03] <BreezyBanana> Live CD is fine
[06:03] <topper4125> !cam | NILO
[06:04] <topper4125> check supported cams list before spending hours on something that is just 'not going to work'
[06:05] <nilo> ok, i will go those pages, thanks
[06:05] <topper4125> good luck :)(
[06:07] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, Nov  9 06:06:10 guestgallery init: nginx main process (2072) terminated with status 1
[06:07] <SDr> Nov  9 06:06:10 guestgallery init: nginx post-stop process (2111) terminated with status 1
[06:07] <SDr> so, nginx is actually executed, but is terminating shortly afterwards
[06:07] <Goonbridge> hi everyone, I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 13.10 setting the resolution to 1024x768 when my display connected via hdmi is turned off during boot. When I turn the display on, it defaults to the correct 1920x1080 resolution, but it causes a problem with XBMC which is configured to launch on startup. Is there a way I can force the resolution to always be 1920x1080?
[06:08] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, relevant lines from nginx's errorl.log: http://pastebin.com/rged4ryQ
[06:08] <topper4125> could it be a problem with lightdm Goonbridge? Try this maybe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[06:08] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: it may not be actually terminating. might be forking and the parent process is terminating
[06:08] <oldwzd> Goonbridge: copy your displays EDID info to a file, and load it as a default for X
[06:09] <SDr> so, 2 problems here: /var/run/nginx.pid   wtf, and no ipv6
[06:09] <Goonbridge> oldwzd: can you please advise me how to do that?
[06:11] <Goonbridge> topper4125: I'm logging in automatically on this system - wouldn't that bypass lightdm?
[06:14] <paulus68> Does anyone know how to configure exchange server in thunderbird
[06:14] <topper4125> Goonbridge, it *should* I remember back in the 'ol Grub2 days I had a similar issue... and auto-logged in as well.
[06:14] <siberiannerd> SDr, http://serverfault.com/questions/421460/nginx-failed-to-start-cannot-assign-requested-address maybe this is the case?
[06:14] <D4rkness> why is it a bad idea to open things on a root account?
[06:15] <topper4125> I think it was acutally the "bootscreen" that messed everything up...  had to remove it completely
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> D4rkness, ubuntu is not designed to use a root account, permissions basically and exposure, there are OS that you can.
[06:16] <siberiannerd> D4rkness, when something runs from-under root it has all necessary rights and permissions to break the system completely if behaves in misconfigured or evil way (exploitation)
[06:16] <topper4125> D4rkness, the reason it is so easy for malicious programs to do things to 'commercial' Operating systems is because most/all users give them selves 'super-user' status which opens up the whole system to software the OS 'thinks' you want to run
[06:16] <siberiannerd> nothing stops you from using root account
[06:16] <Goonbridge> is there an easy way to generate a generic xorg.conf
[06:17] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: hmm, having trouble getting nginx to see the PID, gonna try an intermediate script
[06:18] <BillyZane> samba does not work
[06:18] <topper4125> Goonbridge, http://askubuntu.com/questions/217758/how-to-make-an-xorg-conf-file scroll down to third answer for step-by-step
[06:18] <BillyZane> what the hell
[06:19] <D4rkness> oh ok now I understand I just want to add the root account is the only account that runs stably on my hp compaq on other accounts the load spikes to 1.00 then locks up tried clearing the cache to no avail i needed root access now im stuck on this root account until i can find  a way to keep my other account stable
[06:19] <theadmin> Goonbridge: Generic? You don't need a generic one. "Generic" settings are auto-applied.
[06:19] <BillyZane> apparently i can't get samba to work
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> D4rkness, You have set it up wrong with that scenario.
[06:19] <aloiece> hei can someone help me with accessing a webdav on ubuntu
[06:19] <aloiece> i get "not a webdav enabled share" from nautilus
[06:19] <BillyZane> i tried typing "samba" in terminal, it says i don't have it installed
[06:20] <topper4125> D4rkness, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo contains info on 'how to enable root' and a *LOT* of info on why you shouldn't...
[06:20] <theadmin> BillyZane: Then install it.
[06:20] <BillyZane> why would i not have it installed
[06:20] <BillyZane> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 and now my computer is broken
[06:20] <BillyZane> why would i not have samba installed
[06:21] <D4rkness> ill take a look at that thanks for your support you two
[06:21] <topper4125> for the same reason I don't have it installed I didn't type in sudo apt-get install samba4
[06:21] <BillyZane> sorry if i sound angry, but this is really frustrating
[06:21] <BillyZane> i don't understand why i would need to do that. i've been using it now since i installed ubuntu, it should be on my PC
[06:22] <BillyZane> why on earth would i not have it, did the 13.10 upgrade delete it? did it get removed from the path?
[06:23] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: no luck here. I assume this is why nginx by default is on the old sysv init
[06:23] <BillyZane> is there a bug in the 13.10 upgrade that causes samba to stop working or be deleted?
[06:23] <topper4125> I've seen a few reports about 13.10 doing this (not just with samba... with other software)
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> BillyZane, Did you use a ppa to install it per-chance, rather than the repos?
[06:23] <BillyZane> wilee-nilee, i got a big "hey... 13.10 upgrade is ready" sign, i click, "sure.. install" the install freezes, the new kernel does not work at all
[06:23] <aloiece> hmmm
[06:23] <BillyZane> now my system is running 13.10 with the older kernel
[06:24]  * topper4125 only runs LTS to LTS... for a reason
[06:25] <topper4125> cutting edge tends to be painful, bleeding edge is just messy.
[06:25] <BillyZane> installing samba4 for the first time
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> BillyZane, We see some problems here, I suspect people tweak there setup a bit past an easy upgrade, personally I always just fresh install, with a package list and the extra repos and keys, takes about 1/4 the time and is clean.
[06:25] <xmetal> honestly i am on a different distro though next time i upgrade to ubuntu or a minty (~cough~) OS ..... i am going to go with one of the LTS releases
[06:25] <BillyZane> i was wondering which option i should take... there's domain controller, member, standalone, none. i just want to read/write files on my local network
[06:26] <xmetal> true @ topper
[06:26] <xmetal> "bleeding edge" is not the best at times
[06:26] <xmetal> I LET others "beta test" the bleeding edge releases
[06:26] <xmetal> lol
[06:26] <theadmin> LTS just makes more sense, I upgraded to 13.10 and things broke too, like the keyboard layout switching
[06:26] <topper4125> me to xmetal
[06:26] <theadmin> So yeah...
[06:26] <BillyZane> wilee-nilee, hmm.. i've installed a lot of programs outside of /home, i'm not sure how you have your setup. this was my first install of any linux distro outside of a virtualbox
[06:27] <olduser> im running trusty lol i have not ran into any problems yet
[06:27] <BillyZane> i think i will stay with LTS from now on as well
[06:27] <siberiannerd> with my setup i havn't meet any problems with 13.04 while with older releases, more stable ones, i had faced very uncomfortable issues
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> BillyZane, sounds like a tweaked setup, mine is a little unusual that all my extra stuff is mainly on externals and the computer is just multiple OS's.
[06:27] <siberiannerd> it's not that straight forward as you tell, guys
[06:28] <BillyZane> wilee-nilee, it's definitely not clean. i have a lot of junk on here because it's my first install. kubuntu for instance which i never use
[06:28] <BillyZane> also, do you guys know which option i should pick when installing samba4?
[06:28] <BillyZane> i got domain controller, member, standalone, none
[06:28] <topper4125> My LTS on on an old tired 20 Gig IDE, /home is on a 1TB Sata... no issues so far.
[06:29] <BillyZane> i'm just trying to read/write files from a windows box
[06:29] <xmetal> i am not against "major upgrades" via updater .. though there is a reason that i "skip a version or two" and when i do preform a major OS (version #) upgrade ... i do a fresh install
[06:29] <olduser> bleeding edge.. DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04
[06:29] <fishduck> olduser: just came out or what?
[06:29] <wilee-nilee> BillyZane, There is a website for lists on whole desktop meta packages for removal. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ towards the bottom left panel.
[06:29] <xmetal> preform
[06:30] <xmetal> er
[06:30] <curatrix> isnt it due in april?
[06:30] <siberiannerd> still it's not windows where you need to wait for second service pack, it's not like that with major upgrades
[06:30] <fishduck> what does the future of ubuntu hold? Where is the development heading?
[06:30] <xmetal> dang fingers ... lol
[06:30] <olduser> fishduck, no its not out yet its dev  version
[06:30] <jc_> hola
[06:30] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, okay. in that case: how can I set a script in init.d to start *AFTER* ipv6 init?
[06:31] <jc_> v
[06:31] <jc_> #cornudos
[06:31] <jc_> #madrid
[06:31] <theadmin> jc_: Stop this.
[06:31] <jc_> como cambio de canal
[06:31] <xmetal> sometimes (no matter the distro or if its Linux or MS....) its best to have a newest BUT a "if it ain't broke ... " mentality
[06:31] <xmetal> (just my view)
[06:32] <xmetal> newest = most updated that is stable with your system
[06:32] <xmetal> is what i meant
[06:32] <siberiannerd> slackware :3
[06:32] <D4rkness> mine in certainly broke ahhaha
[06:33] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: that i don't think is possible. unless you get it to fork a while sleep cycle that tests for the init of ipv6
[06:34] <topper4125> When i think stability Debian comes to mind (And DSL for some odd reason)
[06:34] <siberiannerd> not anymore to my mind
[06:35] <D4rkness> load spikes to 100 and my framerate drops to 2fps with heavy lag my cache appears full my swap isnt being used and my internet transfer is normal there is no intel duo core T7900 support in ubuntu 12.04 could this be the cause???
[06:37] <D4rkness> Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T9600 @ 2.80GHz × 2
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: /facepalm    the entire time i was testing the script i was ssh'd into another machine :P no wonder i wasn't getting expected results when i was looking on this machine for it :P
[06:37] <curatrix> should work fine
[06:38] <siberiannerd> D4rkness, no
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> D4rkness, How does it run on a live dvd/usb?
[06:38] <D4rkness> perfectly dispite the keyboard not working i had to plug in a bluetooth mouse also legacy hardware is enabled in the bios
[06:39] <siberiannerd> `dmesg` please
[06:41] <Anonynimity> Anyone know of a program that would decrypt ICQ's IP Mask?
[06:41] <siberiannerd> which mask
[06:42] <topper4125> D4rkness, about the CPU... https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html When you get to the part about the Intel EM64T: bounce over to: http://www.tech-faq.com/em64t-intel-64.html basically... its covered.
[06:43] <Kurogane> is possible to recover a file delete from rsync?
[06:43] <Anonynimity> the host mask...
[06:43] <D4rkness> Alright will do, Thanks for taking the time to help me out Topper4125 and siberiannerd
[06:44] <siberiannerd> Anonynimity, could you please expand it like how does it look like, not everyone has icq, freenode also has rules so be careful and wise
[06:44] <Anonynimity> when I type /whois nick I get > [A_Stupid_Guy] (A_Stupid_Guy@472018.922E5E.799BCD.157A2C
[06:45] <Anonynimity> instead of getting [A_Stupid_Guy] (A_Stupid_Guy@472018.922E5E.799BCD.157A2C I would like to get the IP address
[06:45] <Anonynimity> I'm just wondering if this can be done.
[06:45] <Anonynimity> and how...
[06:45] <siberiannerd> what makes you think that it's not fully random? just curious
[06:46] <Anonynimity> because, 1) there has to be a cypher key in order for it to do this... 2) it gives the same thing over and over and over again for the same individual
[06:46] <Anonynimity> even if they disconnect and reconnect
[06:46] <D4rkness> sorry to interupt
[06:46] <D4rkness> but ip's for everyone are not static
[06:46] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Anonynimity
[06:46] <D4rkness> only for select few
[06:47] <siberiannerd> 1) to do what? 2) account-dependent?
[06:47] <siberiannerd> but still can be random
[06:47] <Anonynimity> 1) Just for testing. 2) yes, account-dependent.
[06:48] <D4rkness> testing meaning hacking into?
[06:48] <Anonynimity> if it were random, it wouldn't be the same thing when an user signs on again though...
[06:48] <D4rkness> or spying?
[06:48] <Anonynimity> no just testing.
[06:48] <topper4125> Anonynimity, have you read this? http://www.donkboy.com/html/vol5.htm#icq
[06:48] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, follow-up: I ditched this branch of the possibility-tree, reset the init.d script, and updated the config file to bind to [::]   ,such that it doesn't need the actual address
[06:48] <Anonynimity> I have another computer that's connected right now, and I want to see if I can do this to my own computer.
[06:48] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, this solved the problem for now until the time multiple IPs will be concerned
[06:48] <Anonynimity> I'm not using ICQ, I'm using xchat.
[06:48] <siberiannerd> some guys pay well for other guys location =)
[06:49] <Anonynimity> not me... just looking to do this for myself.
[06:49] <siberiannerd> icq is on the stage in such cases often lol
[06:49] <SDr> hitsujiTMO, many many thanks for bearing with me, I appreciate the effort
[06:49] <topper4125> hmm... why was I thinking you were asking about icq???
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> SDr: np
[06:50] <Anonynimity> because it's part of the ICQ's server software
[06:50] <hitsujiTMO> Anonynimity: this is the Ubuntu support channel. Your asking this question in the wrong place
[06:50] <Anonynimity> hitsujiTMO, I had asked the question, and siberiannerd was asking me what I was trying to achieve. I replied.
[06:51] <theleft> anyone else having more than one ppa come back with bad signatures all of a sudden? seems odd that it is happening to three of my repos out of nowhere
[06:51] <siberiannerd> i can't still figure out what are you trying to achieve
[06:51] <theleft> they were all fine this morning
[06:51] <hitsujiTMO> Anonynimity: still, this is an off topic discussion and shold be moved elsewhere
[06:52] <hitsujiTMO> theleft: launchpad went down a while ago. might be a bit before its back to 100%
[06:52] <theleft> that explains it, thank you hitsujiTMO!
[06:55] <HiddenDjinn> i wonder, does hostname need to be set in /etc/hostname for postfix to work?
[06:56] <hitsujiTMO> HiddenDjinn: hostname needs to be set in /etc/hostname for a lot of things to work. (hostname != fqdn tho)
[06:57] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, oh, it's set...but i'm trying to configure this mail server to serve several domains at once
[06:57] <hitsujiTMO> HiddenDjinn: if you want to specify fqdns, they go in /etc/hosts
[06:58] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, one per line or...?
[06:58] <hitsujiTMO> HiddenDjinn: one or more lines per ip, an ip can have multiple domains
[06:59] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[07:00] <hitsujiTMO> HiddenDjinn: afaik, you should not need to specify fqdns in the hosts file, but it wouldn't hurt none the less
[07:00] <BillyZane> how do i get samba to work with my network?
[07:00] <aloiece> hei again, anyone know anbout enabling webdavs?
[07:00] <mike01> !ciao
[07:00] <BillyZane> it use to work until i updated to 13.10
[07:00] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, doing it
[07:00] <mike01> !list
[07:01] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, i'm a mail newbie...anything that helps(also looking through a few howtos) will be done
[07:01] <hitsujiTMO> HiddenDjinn: mail is probably the hardest thing to get right tbh :P
[07:01] <davit> hello :)
[07:02] <HiddenDjinn> hitsujiTMO, yeah, already got through the other stuff
[07:02] <johndude> ping
[07:02] <davit> ping
[07:02] <johndude> !ping
[07:05] <davit> PING!
[07:06] <davit> my xubuntu 13.10 not showing sound icon right
[07:06] <excognac> morning folks. Can a dead giro of fan make a laptop slow?
[07:06] <davit> it shows that it turned off
[07:08] <root_148> ;oj
[07:08] <root_148> hi
[07:09] <topper4125> in most cases heat=slow
[07:14] <anon> hi
[07:15] <anon> Is it OK if I install kernel 3.10 on ubuntu 12.04?
[07:15] <siberiannerd> anon, nothing stops you from trying to
[07:16] <anon> siberiannerd, lol
[07:16] <siberiannerd> just leave the older one
[07:16] <siberiannerd> with it's initrd
[07:16] <anon> I want to know if it's safe.
[07:16] <anon> Well, I already installed it.
[07:16] <siberiannerd> do you feel safe?
[07:16] <anon> Nothing blew up yet..
[07:17] <anon> Do you think it'll be alright in the near future?
[07:17] <topper4125> safe, yes... fully supported by all of your other hardware... that's something you and maybe google wil have to hammer out
[07:17] <systemfish> upgraded to 13.04, keyboard & mouse won't respond (can't login). How to fix?
[07:17] <anon> topper4125, It works better with my notebook. I also heard it has better support for the battery and other components. It's the only kernel that support disabling the keyboard backlight
[07:17] <anon> I can't do it with 3.8
[07:18] <anon> supports*.
[07:18] <siberiannerd> systemfish, wont respond even for ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[07:19] <topper4125> anon, sounds promising then :) looks like you did your homework.
[07:19] <systemfish> siberiannerd: don't think so (will try soon). Num lock does not respond, so I guess not
[07:20] <siberiannerd> systemfish, but it's not hardware related, right?
[07:20] <systemfish> siberiannerd: ctrl+alt+f1 does not work. It's not hardware related but becomes a problem when ubuntu has booted up
[07:21] <siberiannerd> maybe some module is missing for some very strange reason
[07:21] <siberiannerd> i would investigate it via chroot environment from live
[07:23] <siberiannerd> maybe i would put openssh server on that instance to get access through network after it boots up and would try to bring some logs here, lspci, lsusb, dmesg, syslog, lsmod, boot log
[07:23] <systemfish> alright, will try
[07:24] <systemfish> I'm trying "ubuntu with advanced option" from the boot up menu now
[07:24] <systemfish> will try recovery mode
[07:24] <siberiannerd> systemfish, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot also
[07:25] <siberiannerd> brb
[07:27] <ssfdre38> im trying to set up a VNC on my server so i can see the remote desktop, can someone help me to set it up?
[07:29] <systemfish> ssfdre38: just read a tutorial
[07:30] <cloudy_nz> linux boffins tend to use console & ssh, not gui desktop ;-)
[07:30] <systemfish> siberiannerd: what am I supposed to do?
[07:30] <ssfdre38> i have but it all requires me being at the server, and i cant be at the server as its on the other side of the country
[07:32] <joebobjoe> I need help. I installed Ubuntu 13.04 Server onto VirtualBox in Win8 under UEFI. After the installation, the box rebooted and I got a GRUB 2 menu and I booted into my new installation and everything worked great. I shut down and detached the installation media. Now when I boot, all I get is an EFI shell :(. What can I do to get back into my installation?
[07:32] <siberiannerd> systemfish, after getting into chroot environment you will be able to work into that instance with modules and /dev/ from the original environment, so if you keyboard works in live it will work on the "dead" instance
[07:34] <siberiannerd> you will be able to execute commands under that "dead" instance in many cases, installing additional software, edit configs and things responsible for boot process
[07:34] <systemfish> siberiannerd: why chroot when I just can login as root?
[07:35] <siberiannerd> systemfish, oh, i've missed something probably, i'm not familiar precisely what "recovery mode" option does exactly
[07:36] <systemfish> siberiannerd: instead of loading all the ubuntu stuff, I just get a root tty basically
[07:36] <siberiannerd> so you're now able to operate the instance?
[07:36] <joebobjoe> Do I have to manually set up EFI info when installing under EFI with Ubuntu Server?
[07:37] <siberiannerd> i would set up openssh-server, boot into usual way where it stucks with keyboard and would look through logs
[07:38] <systemfish> siberiannerd: can't I just look at logs in the root tty I have now?
[07:38] <systemfish> though, what logs should I look into?
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> joebobjoe, I would ask in #ubuntu-server
[07:38] <siberiannerd> systemfish, you keyboard works now, right?
[07:38] <systemfish> yes
[07:39] <siberiannerd> so tracking the event from past is harder
[07:39] <siberiannerd> you may try though
[07:39] <systemfish> how do you do such a thing? :P
[07:39] <systemfish> there are tons of files in /var/log
[07:40] <siberiannerd> reading through logs carefully, all those events logged in that time you booted normally, however if you was lacking the module it may not be obvious in some cases from what u've read in logs at this point
[07:41] <systemfish> siberiannerd: should I look trough all files in /var/log?
[07:42] <siberiannerd> most probably .1 ones are could be useful too
[07:42] <siberiannerd> syslog, dmesg.log, boot.log
[07:46] <helmut__> hi
[07:46] <topper4125> hi
[07:47] <mapps> hi
[07:48] <deego> hi
[07:48] <systemfish> thanks siberiannerd
[07:48] <siberiannerd> systemfish, woa, any luck with that approach?
[07:49] <dannymichel> Anyone a themes expert? I was finally able to use a background image for my panel by editing my theme files, but the panel background get's slightly darker when i hover over it. You really have to pay attention to the panel to see it http://d.pr/v/bDag
[07:50] <systemfish> siberiannerd: not really, lol
[07:51] <farid_> hi
[07:51] <farid_> need help plz
[07:52] <farid_> I am using ubuntu 10.04
[07:52] <siberiannerd> systemfish, i would suggest you to set up ssh access and boot it in usual way, getting into the box via ssh to see what's going on actually, starting from plugging/unplugging the device, looking at dmesg and `lsmod`
[07:52] <farid_> I want to install a SkyStar USB HD it is a DVB-S
[07:53] <farid_> this is lsusb :
[07:53] <farid_> Bus 001 Device 008: ID 14f7:0500
[07:53] <mapps> dvb0s and a n hdd?
[07:53] <farid_> what do you mean?
[07:53] <systemfish> siberiannerd: it seems like i dont have sshd installed, and i don't have any network access
[07:54] <mapps> you say it is DVB-S whats that mean..i didnt think u could have an hdd thats DVB-S
[07:54] <topper4125> farid_, just a bit of a warning... 10.04 isn't supported anymore (unless its lts server edition)
[07:54] <farid_> it is LTS
[07:55] <topper4125> true.. 10.04 was LTS... but only the server release is supported... not desktop lts
[07:55] <farid_> but people say it should be like this :
[07:55] <farid_> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 14f7:0500 TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV Star HD
[07:55] <wilee-nilee> mmm 3rd party on a eol
[07:55] <farid_> why it is not detected?
[07:56] <farid_> on my system?
[07:56] <mapps> did you google?:)
[07:56] <mapps> or check ubuntuforums
[07:59] <farid__> he says : The Technisat SkyStar USB HD is listed as supported since Linux 2.6.39 on the Linux TV Wiki
[07:59] <farid__> how can I check my linux kernel version?
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> farid__, You don't have access to the regular repos with a end of life, it was LTS.
[08:00] <siberiannerd> farid_, uname -a
[08:02] <farid__> oh god so this can be the problem right? :
[08:02] <farid__> Linux server 2.6.32-53-generic
[08:03] <geirha> farid__: time to upgrade to 12.04?
[08:03] <farid__> I don't like it
[08:04] <farid__> I got used to 10.04
[08:04] <farid__> I get used to
[08:05] <wilee-nilee> farid__, here are some links from askubuntu. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Technisat+SkyStar+USB+HD+
[08:05] <farid__> is that the only way?
[08:07] <farid__> the problem is with Linux kernel
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> farid__, With a quick look it looks like a compile situation with some limitations, so take a read on the links.
[08:07] <farid__> but synaptic package says 2.6.32 is the latest version and installed!
[08:08] <farid__> but I need at least 2.6.39 to get this DVB-S detected on my system
[08:09] <farid__> I read all of the similar cases including that one
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> farid__, You might be best getting up to the next supported LT 12.04.
[08:09] <wilee-nilee> farid__, 5 years support, about another 3 1/2 years form now.
[08:10] <farid__> yes, it seems I have to do it
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> from*
[08:10] <farid__> what do you mean support?
[08:11] <farid__> I didn't pay anyone for using ubuntu
[08:11] <wilee-nilee> farid__, All the ubuntu releases have a time you can get support, help in other words, and have access to the regular repos.
[08:11] <farid__> I am sure it is not your task to support
[08:11] <farid__> all you are doing is helping
[08:11] <farid__> and god bless you
[08:11] <topper4125> any updates made for 3rd party hardware are made for supported versions (10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10). while they *might* work on older versions, there is no guarantee, nor any effort made to make them work for unsupported versions.
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> farid__, This is a support channel, call it what you want. ;)
[08:12] <farid__> thanks a lot
[08:12] <dannymichel> Anyone a themes expert? I was finally able to use a background image for my panel by editing my theme files, but the panel background get's slightly darker when i hover over it. You really have to pay attention to the panel to see it http://d.pr/v/bDag
[08:14] <wilee-nilee> dannymichel, Not many if any at all are going to download this, doesn't unity-tweak or compiz have a control on that?
[08:14] <topper4125> looks like you have a shadow that appears a little delayed?
[08:18] <arun> guys how to localize Ubuntu into my local language?
[08:18] <topper4125> settings>>Language support
[08:19] <farid__> is there any free vpn or proxy software for ubuntu?
[08:20] <topper4125> !vpn | farid__ this link has an article with links to software...
[08:20] <farid__> I can't run psiphon3 with wine, it gives error
[08:21] <johndude> farid__ did you try dante?
[08:21]  * topper4125 has no experience with wine... I left Win a *long* time ago :(
[08:21] <geirha> farid__: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/
[08:23] <farid__> no
[08:23] <farid__> never
[08:27] <farid__> everyone thanks for the help, bye
[08:28] <krz> whats up with 13.10?
[08:28] <krz> buggy as shit
[08:28] <krz> the top right icon on the taskbar disappears every so often
[08:29] <topper4125> haven't used it... I only upgrade from LTS to LTS
[08:30] <topper4125> avoids a lot of headaches that way
[08:34] <arun_> guys how to localize a software
[08:34] <krz> topper4125: whats the latest lts? still 12.04?
[08:38] <krz> topper4125: its actually 12.04.3. im currently on 13.04. are the packages in the LTS version the same as the non LTS?
[08:39] <siberiannerd> in case i face issue with the latest kernel for current release, should i take a look through mainline kernels or what are my options if bug is not fixed and critical for me?
[08:40] <krz> where is the offtopic channel again?
[08:41] <siberiannerd> i need a proper way to do this, please
[08:41] <SDr> krz, #defocus
[08:48] <geirha> arun_: That's somewhat complicated, and depends on various things, such as the language it is written in
[08:48] <arun_> geirha: the language is associated with Nepali
[08:49] <arun_> geirha: But a cultural / local language
[08:49] <geirha> arun_: I mean the programming language of the software
[08:50] <arun_> geirha: oh , its the py
[08:50] <geirha> arun_: Or are you asking how to translate this application into your (written) language
[08:51] <arun_> geirha: yaa, I am wanting to translate the software, not the codes , I have the po file of it in US, but needs to have in other language
[08:51] <geirha> arun_: If so, I'd head on over to #ubuntu-translators
[08:51] <systemfish> so, ubnutu gais. Can I put a script or something somewhere, that'll execute before I login? I need to install a ssh daemon but have no access to a keyboard
[08:52] <systemfish> the keyboard isn't working I mean.. only in recovery mode. But when I boot into ubuntu, it connects to the network but kills the keyboard and mouse
[08:52] <scarleo> Hi, I select 64-bit and click on Ubuntu 13.10 button on ubuntu.com I get a file called: ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ?
[08:53] <scarleo> Can I trust it's the right version, 13.10 x64?
[08:53] <geirha> scarleo: that's probably not 13.10 64-bit
[08:54] <scarleo> I'd say it's rather strange. Could someone tets if they have the same problem?
[08:54] <scarleo> test*
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> scarleo, try http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[08:55] <bekks> scarleo: Testing it will not give you a 64bit iso ;) you can get the 64bit iso directly from cdimages.ubuntu.com
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> old complaint basically
[08:56] <geirha> scarleo: Just did, I got the 13.10 64-bit iso when I clicked the Ubuntu 13.10 button
[08:56] <scarleo> wilee-nilee, Ok? So it's a known problem?
[08:57] <scarleo> bekks, Iknwo, just wanted to report it if it wasn't just me, but it seems it's just me
[08:57] <wilee-nilee> scarleo, I think it has to do with allowing cookies and flash, just a guess though.
[08:57] <scarleo> ok, thanks guys
[09:02] <krz> how can distrowatch report linuxmint as the #1 distro, when their irc freenode channel is half full??
[09:03] <deego> krz: because people who gravitate to things like mint aren't really irc-literate :)
[09:03] <deego> s/aren't/less so..
[09:03] <deego> on average.
[09:03] <bekks> krz: distrowatch reports how many clicks a link got on the distrowatch webiste. Nothing more, nothing less. Basically totally useless and offtopic.
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> deego: s/irc//
[09:04] <hitsujiTMO> deego: s/irc-// sorry
[09:04] <deego> LOL
[09:04] <krz> the thing i like about unity/ubuntu compared to other distros. is the space manement in the desktop. i love how unity has a kind of "global" taskbar
[09:05] <krz> the other dm's in other distros consume too much whitespace
[09:05] <Myrtti> also their official channel isn't on this network iirc
[09:05] <deego> It's a sliding scale. Ubuntu isn't that exempt either. #Debian has as many irc members, though debian is nowhere near ubuntu on distrowatch (right?)
[09:05] <deego> as many as #ubuntu..
[09:05] <systemfish> booted up in recovery mode. Can I "get into my normal environment" so that my wifi settings can kick up?
[09:06] <krz> are the packages in 12.04.3 LTS updated? how can i see what packages/versions?
[09:06] <deego> Don't get me wrong. I use mint. My wife does. My dad does. Nothing wrong with mint or ubuntu. But, none of them  are irc-ers :)
[09:06] <bekks> krz: 12.04 receives updates for 5 years.
[09:06] <bekks> krz: you can see the versions using dpkg -l e.g.
[09:07] <krz> im on 13.04
[09:07] <systemfish> there's no sshd installed by default, is there?
[09:07] <deego> systemfish: no
[09:07] <iceroot_> krz: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:07] <bekks> krz: you asked about 12.04. And 13.04 will receive updates for 9 months.
[09:07] <iceroot_> systemfish: no, not on the desktop
[09:07] <krz> are you guys on LTS/
[09:07] <krz> ?
[09:07] <hitsujiTMO> krz: apt-cache show packagename will give you info for a specific package. generally a LTS will receive security updates, but not upgrades to later releases of the software
[09:08] <bekks> krz: Depends on the box.
[09:08] <systemfish> if I start ubnutu recovery mode with network, can I get a tty somehow?
[09:08] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:08] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[09:08] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[09:08] <iceroot_> systemfish: ctrl + alt +f2 should work
[09:08] <hitsujiTMO> krz: i prefer lts for servers, but in general i'm on 13.10 for desktop use
[09:09] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: no
[09:09] <systemfish> iceroot_: I get nothing then.. just a blank screen with a blinking _ in the left top
[09:09] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:09] <krz> hitsujiTMO: you come across any bugs in 13.10?
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: what are you trying to do?
[09:09] <hitsujiTMO> krz: plenty. i've 2 reported atm
[09:10] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: install a kernel module.. without it, my keyboard and mouse won't respond as quick as the login screen pops up
[09:10] <krz> hitsujiTMO: worth upgrading now, or waiting?
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: you can install that from recovery just fine.
[09:10] <hitsujiTMO> krz: depends on your needs
[09:11] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: I need internet connection plus a tty to do that
[09:11] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: I don't have a live cd
[09:12] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: when I start recovery mode with network access, I don't get a command line
[09:12] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: is this on a fresh install?
[09:12] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: upgraded to 13.04
[09:12] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[09:12] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: kernel-image-extra is missing I suppose, according to some bug reports
[09:12] <systemfish> yes
[09:12] <systemfish> didn't work
[09:13] <systemfish> but perhaps I can boot an older kernel in recovery mode + network.. will try
[09:13] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: have you tried booting an older kernel with text option?
[09:13] <krz> hitsujiTMO: was it worth the upgrade for you?
[09:13] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: text option?
[09:14] <hitsujiTMO> krz: yes, i got improved touchscreen support
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: before booting the older kernel, hit e to edit the grub options, add text after: quiet splash
[09:15] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: then hit f10 to boot with those options
[09:15] <jason2> hello
[09:16] <systemfish> what will that do hitsujiTMO?
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: boots to cli only
[09:16] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: I can get a root tty, but with no network access
[09:16] <systemfish> also, apt-get don't seem to work when I do that (although I don't have network access)
[09:16] <systemfish> something about lock...
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: if the issue is happening on both a new and old kernel, then i suspect it has nothing to do with kernel modules btw
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: just try and boot with text first, if that helps then your part of the way there
[09:17] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: I don't have kernel-extras installed/loaded (I checked). I need those
[09:17] <systemfish> ok
[09:18] <systemfish> where am I suppose to add quiet splash?
[09:18] <lucido> I'm getting blank screen(unsupported resolution) and weird RADEON lines in my Xorg.0.log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386800/ when I have an nvidia card. I run a custom xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386803/ which has worked before upgrading 13.04 to 13.10 Can someone please look at my xorg log and give me some pointers?
[09:18] <systemfish> oh.. nvm lol
[09:18] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: add 'text' after 'quiet aplash'
[09:19] <HaveFantasy> !fuckmywife
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: and do that for the old kernel, no the current
[09:19] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: for the old kernel, or old kernel (recovery mode) ?
[09:19] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: old kernel
[09:20] <MarkDavis> Hi
[09:20] <MarkDavis> How can I uninstall a package I've installed from a deb file?
[09:21] <hitsujiTMO> lucido: can you pastebin the output of: lspci
[09:22] <lucido> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386822/
[09:22] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: awesome! So.. that cause unity not to start, but only a command line instead?
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: a deb will have a packagename. you can remove it with apt-get remove packagename. what deb was it?
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: yessum
[09:22] <systemfish> what does cli-mode mean hitsujiTMO?
[09:22] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: command line interface
[09:23] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: is this temporary, or was that saved in the grub thing?
[09:23] <hitsujiTMO> lucido: just so you know, you have an ati card, not an nvidia card
[09:23] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: with Brother driver. I still have problems with my printer, I installed drivers from the Ubuntu repository, then from Brother's page, but it neither one nor second worked.
[09:24] <greyhatpython> hi after pressing ctrl + H to hide and unhide. The folder is automatically unhiding itself when i open file manager. how to solve this?
[09:24] <lucido> hitsujiTMO, damn, I was on the wrong console, let me regenerate the pastebins
[09:25] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections
[09:25] <wilee-nilee> greyhatpython, to hide the folder has a period at the beginning, what is the folder and what is it you actually want?
[09:25] <MarkDavis> I'm sure that it's possible to install this printer here because I have already did it once. I don't know why it doesn't want to work this time.
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: have you installed it with an older version of ubuntu or the same version?
[09:26] <sl1ck> I've got Nvidia 240 GTS 1gb - how do I enable the 'eyecandy' ?
[09:26] <MarkDavis> No, with the same.
[09:26] <bekks> !nvidia | sl1ck
[09:26] <MarkDavis> And the system detects the printer. It just doesn't print.
[09:26] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: usb or network printer?
[09:27] <MarkDavis> USB.
[09:27] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: can you pastebin the output of: lsusb
[09:27] <greyhatpython> wilee-nilee i know to hide folder to add period in folder name. But my problem is when i open file manager the .period folders are displaying automatically.
[09:27] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: it has many lines. Should I paste it here?
[09:27] <lucido> Ok, with the correct info this time: I'm getting blank screen(unsupported resolution). Here's my Xorg.0.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386837/ I run a custom xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386833/ which has worked before upgrading 13.04 to 13.10 Can someone please look at my xorg log and give me some pointers?
[09:28] <bekks> !paste | MarkDavis
[09:28] <wilee-nilee> greyhatpython, I had this problem in 13.04 or 13.10 no matter what I did in dconf etc, I just did a reinstall.
[09:28] <greyhatpython> I am using 13.10
[09:28] <sl1ck> bekks: so after driver installation eyecandy is automatically enabled?
[09:28] <greyhatpython> re-install for a small problem?
[09:28] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: use paste.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <bekks> sl1ck: define "eyecandy" first :)
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> greyhatpython, seems strange but I could not figure it out myself, I'm not saying you should.
[09:29] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: OK, just a moment.
[09:29] <greyhatpython> ya there should some other around for this to solve.
[09:29] <sl1ck> bekks: right, the windows 7 aero-like desktop :)
[09:29] <greyhatpython> *way
[09:30] <bekks> sl1ck: Linux doesnt support Aero ;)
[09:30] <johndude> does --> find <path> -daystart -ctime 0 -print correctly tell find to find files created today(ins. of 24 hrs. ago)?
[09:30] <sl1ck> bekks: which is why I added "-like" to the Aero bit ;)
[09:31] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386855/
[09:31] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:31] <bekks> sl1ck: Using the proprietary nvidia driver will give you the chance to enable a lot more of effects, and you will notice your desktop is somehow "faster" than using the nouveau driver.
[09:33] <sl1ck> bekks: how would I go about enabling the said effects, compiz?
[09:34] <systemfish> thank you hitsujiTMO a lot, it works now (xorg mouse and keybord stuff was missing)
[09:34] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | systemfish
[09:34] <systemfish> :)
[09:35] <calmtits> Hello room, I've been trying to make the Ubuntu 13.10 installation recognize my Windows 8.1 partition but my entire disk shows up as unallocated. Gdisk shows only a 250 GB free space and no errors. UEFI btw. Can someone help?
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[09:36] <calmtits> oh wait gonna log back to the live USB stick
[09:36] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: can you tell me the output of: uname -r
[09:37] <MarkDavis> 3.2.0-55-generic-pae
[09:37] <Ben64> hitsujiTMO: the problem is going to be what the problem always is in that circumstance -- ubuntu doesn't like windows' gpt
[09:37] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: so this is 12.04 lts ?
[09:37] <MarkDavis> exactly
[09:38] <hitsujiTMO> ben64: i've a feeling that its a mbr install on top of a gpt partition table :P
[09:38] <calmtits> alright I'm in, can you tell me the command again?
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: have you tried installing brother-lpr-drivers-extra ?
[09:39] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[09:40] <lucido> what's xmir?
[09:40] <calmtits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386895/
[09:40] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: no, I haven't.
[09:40] <gefangshuai> ddd
[09:40] <gefangshuai> 我不知道怎么用啊
[09:40] <johndude> for using this command : find /path/to/dir -name "*<string>*" -->how do i build a string like "20131109" to include todays date in place of *<string>*
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> ben64: i was wrong :(
[09:41] <gefangshuai> 什么wrong？
[09:41] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[09:42] <gefangshuai> lsblk
[09:42] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: and I've just noticed that something strange is going on because I can't log in as root when I am in a terminal but I can do it in window applications.
[09:42] <gefangshuai> --help
[09:42] <calmtits> there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386913/  sdb being my usb stick
[09:43] <hitsujiTMO> !cn | gefangshuai
[09:43] <calmtits> thing is, when I first bought this PC I tried to install Ubuntu with the way I used to and I think I did something very wrong
[09:43] <bingo> hello. the firewall is set to simply allow out deny in, should i add any rules?
[09:44] <bekks> bingo: That depends on your requirements.
[09:44] <calmtits> because when I try to choose a booting device there's always an "Ubuntu" option, even if I don't have Ubuntu anywhere
[09:44] <bingo> bekks, i just browse and stuff, thats it really
[09:45] <bekks> bingo: Then you dont need additional rules, basically.
[09:45] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: what exactly do you mean can't log in as root?
[09:45] <bingo> but if i wanted to say, make a program outbound only. i could do that?
[09:45] <bekks> !root | MarkDavis
[09:45] <johndude> for using this command : find /path/to/dir -name "*<string>*" -->how do i build a string like "20131109" to include todays date in place of *<string>*
[09:46] <bekks> bingo: thats the default.
[09:46] <bingo> bekks, ty
[09:47] <wilee-nilee> calmtits, Are you aware you have a gpt must be uefi computer?
[09:47] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: can you pastebin the output of: gdisk -l /dev/sda
[09:47] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: there is a terminal application offered by Ubuntu. So I tried to log in as root with su. And it doesn't work. But when I enter the same password when a window application requests it then it works.
[09:47] <calmtits> wilee-nilee: yes, wasn't back when I did the forementioned but I deliberately converted to UEFI yesterday
[09:48] <Ben64> !root | MarkDavis
[09:48] <wilee-nilee> calmtits, cool.
[09:48] <MarkDavis> Ben64: Strange, because the last time it worked.
[09:48] <calmtits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386944/
[09:49] <calmtits> if I had to guess I'd say that the leftovers of my goof back when I bought the PC this summer are torturing me
[09:49] <Novastorm> johndude: find /path/to/dir -name "*$(date +%Y%m%d)*"
[09:50] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: the windows has the wrong partition id. thats why it can't be seen
[09:51] <calmtits> Gparted also has a warning for /dev/sda3
[09:51] <calmtits> "unable to detect file system"
[09:51] <calmtits> the msftres one
[09:52] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: no wait, i'm wrong. 0700 is correct
[09:53] <Jordan_U> calmtits: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[09:53] <calmtits> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386952/
[09:53] <lovelyrandomness> hello hitsujiTMO
[09:53] <krz> what would be your second best linux preference?
[09:53] <krz> distro*
[09:54] <hitsujiTMO> hello lovelyrandomness
[09:54] <Jordan_U> calmtits: Can you post a screenshot of Ubuntu's installer showing the drive as being unnallocated?
[09:54] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | calmtits
[09:55] <calmtits> woot
[09:55] <calmtits> wait
[09:56] <calmtits> good call
[09:56] <calmtits> it stopped being unallocated http://imagebin.org/276302
[09:56] <Jordan_U> :)
[09:57] <calmtits> but the installer doesn't allow to install alongside Ubuntu
[09:57] <calmtits> can I still do it manually?
[09:57] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: i'm still stuck, the vaio looks really good as deco on the table though :)
[09:58] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: hehe. i reread that link you gave and that's certainly not the issue. well not for that exact problem
[09:58] <lovelyrandomness> i redid my writeup: http://askubuntu.com/questions/372970/13-10-doesnt-boot-on-vaio-pro-13 i had it set to legacy mode, after the UEFI installation
[09:58] <calmtits> those are the choices I get http://imagebin.org/276303
[09:59] <D4rkness> if all fails use another computer to burn ubuntu to a disk or usb and boot from it from the bios you will be back on your feet
[09:59] <D4rkness> in efernce to randomness
[09:59] <D4rkness> as for calm what are you trying to do?
[09:59] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: another user mentioned to drop the LVM and just install in legacy and it would work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186715
[10:00] <calmtits> install Ubuntu 13.10
[10:00] <lovelyrandomness> maybe that's the best and fastest solution, right?
[10:00] <D4rkness> calm do you have a usb with at least 2gb?
[10:00] <lovelyrandomness> although i seem to be so close, if this /cow error didn't appear and i could do "sudo update-grub"
[10:01] <calmtits> you mean besides the live usb stick I am currently booting from?
[10:01] <calmtits> no
[10:01] <D4rkness> the live stick your booting from has the installer correct?
[10:01] <calmtits> the usb I boot from atm is 4gb and used lili usb creator to make it
[10:01] <calmtits> yes
[10:02] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: can you boot the live cd again. I don't think the the lvm/encryption is your problem since its not even trying to boot grub
[10:02] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: So I've installed these extra drivers but it doesn't seem like it worked.
[10:02] <D4rkness> reboot and proceed to install are your partitions set?
[10:02] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: sure, hang on. thanks for helping, again, really!
[10:03] <calmtits> the Ubuntu installer doesn't give me an "install alongside Ubuntu" option now, first it showed the disk as unallocated
[10:03] <calmtits> I formatted, converted to GPT and installed Windows 8 in UEFI
[10:03] <D4rkness> oh you have to select the disk and erase it
[10:03] <D4rkness> it will take a long time if its alot of space
[10:03] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: have you seen my latest boot repair log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386598/ i tried boot repair with the efi rename, don't know if i did something bad
[10:04] <calmtits> and now I'm trying to dual boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 13.10 in UEFI
[10:04] <D4rkness> windows 8 isnt on the partition your going to erase is it?
[10:04] <bekks> D4rkness: For installing along windows, thats a fatal approach.
[10:04] <bekks> D4rkness: He is trying install a dualboot actually.
[10:04] <Jordan_U> lovelyrandomness: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:04] <calmtits> there's already 250gb free to install Ubuntu
[10:05] <calmtits> and I'm trying to dual boot
[10:05] <D4rkness> aah
[10:05] <calmtits> but I get no such option and I'm not sure if I should do it manually
[10:05] <lovelyrandomness> Jordan_U: the partition is encrypted would that still work
[10:05] <D4rkness> well if his partition is showing as unallocated then i thing his windows 8 is beyond repair
[10:05] <D4rkness> assuming their on the same partition
[10:06] <calmtits> it doesn't show up as unallocated after formatting or rebooting or something I did with all the googling
[10:06] <calmtits> lol
[10:06] <bekks> D4rkness: Please look at his paste before assuming those wrong things,
[10:06] <Jordan_U> lovelyrandomness: Yes, as the only partitions grub-install needs are your boot partition and EFI System Partition, neither of which are encrypted.
[10:06] <D4rkness> didnt see his paste hold on
[10:06] <bekks> D4rkness: He has a working windows 8, he has enough free space - just the "install alongside windows" option is missing.
[10:07] <bekks> D4rkness: http://imagebin.org/276302
[10:07] <calmtits> is the gparted warning normal?
[10:07] <bekks> calmtits: gparted cant deal with GPT labeled disks, yes.
[10:07] <calmtits> ok
[10:08] <lovelyrandomness> Jordan_U hitsujiTMO ok, i'm in now and will do what Jordan_U told me..
[10:08] <Jordan_U> calmtits: bekks: GParted handles GPT labeled disks just fine. What warning are you seeing?
[10:09] <sl1ck> how do I check whether my system supports S3 Standby/sleep mode?
[10:09] <bekks> Jordan_U: oh, you are right. fdisk doesnt handle GPT correctly, as can be seen in his paste here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6386895/
[10:09] <calmtits> Jordan_U: http://imagebin.org/276304
[10:09] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: gdisk -l /dev/sdX
[10:09] <D4rkness> calm
[10:09] <D4rkness> your windows 8 is on sda4 correct?
[10:10] <calmtits> yes
[10:10] <lovelyrandomness> lovelyvaio: lovelyrandomness: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:10] <Jordan_U> calmtits: That error is not normal. Do you know what is supposed to be on sda3?
[10:10] <D4rkness> ok then this will be quite painless
[10:11] <D4rkness> select your freespace
[10:11] <D4rkness> and inistall there
[10:11] <D4rkness> your windows 8 wont be touched
[10:11] <bekks> D4rkness: It wont. He is using GPT and not MBR. GPT doesnt have the limit of four primary partitions.
[10:11] <calmtits> Jordan_U: sda3 was made after yesterday's format
[10:11] <Jordan_U> calmtits: How did you "make" it?
[10:11] <lovelyvaio> Jordan_U hitsujiTMO: mount: mount point /mnt/boot/efi/ does not exist
[10:11] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: that might need to be sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt//efi/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: that might need to be sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/ && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/efi/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:12] <calmtits> I tried to convert my Windows 8 installation in UEFI
[10:12] <calmtits> formatted the whole drive
[10:12] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: second one
[10:12] <calmtits> made a bootable UEFI usb with Windows 8
[10:12] <calmtits> enabled "Windows 8" and "UEFI only" on the motherboard setup
[10:12] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: mount: /dev/sda2 already mounted or /mnt/ busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[10:12] <calmtits> and just installed it
[10:13] <lovelyrandomness> ya, did th escond one
[10:14] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: move onto: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/efi/ && sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:14] <D4rkness> bekks: so he has too many partitions written and doesnt want to risk killing windows
[10:14] <silidan> hi, i have several applications and also files and folders in the file manager without an icon to it in ubuntu 13.10 unity
[10:14] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory
[10:15] <bekks> D4rkness: The first part is not true, as I explained to you already.
[10:15] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: should i do a quick reinstall?
[10:15] <calmtits> Jordan_U: btw formatting and reinstalling everything isn't really a problem , what's important for me is to have both operating systems work
[10:16] <Jordan_U> lovelyrandomness: sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64
[10:16] <calmtits> but as I mentioned before, I get a "weird" Ubuntu option during boot time in the "choose a device to boot" option
[10:16] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: a reinstall will prob just bring you back here. might be worth a try
[10:16] <calmtits> even if I don't have anything Ubuntu related on hdd or anywhere
[10:16] <silidan> hi, i have several applications and also files and folders in the file manager without an icon to it in ubuntu 13.10 unity, how can i solve that problem?
[10:17] <lovelyvaio> Jordan_U: done
[10:17] <Jordan_U> lovelyvaio: Did grub-install say that it was successful?
[10:17] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio:  againL sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:18] <Jordan_U> lovelyvaio: Sorry, I'm very tired at the moment. As hitsujiTMO said, you need to run grub-install again as you now have the needed packages.
[10:19] <lovelyrandomness> thanks, Jordan_U!
[10:19] <Nothing_Much> I'm having problems with my armhf Ubuntu install
[10:19] <Nothing_Much> I can't figure out what's wrong with my sources.list!
[10:19] <iceroot_> Nothing_Much: #ubuntu-arm
[10:19] <lovelyvaio> and yes it was successfull
[10:19] <Nothing_Much> iceroot_: It's not really about armhf, it's just that my sources.list keeps screwing up
[10:20] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio:  actually can you try: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi --bootloader-id=ubuntu_13.10
[10:20] <D4rkness> speaking from experience i had windows 8 installed first too on my second laptop then when i installed linux on both i selected the something else option then cleared a partition that wasnt my windows 8 drive and proceeded to install linux and i still have the option in my boot list
[10:20] <calmtits> aha
[10:20] <D4rkness> not saying it will be the same for him but this was how it went for me
[10:20] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody tell me where the hell the release file is?
[10:20] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: hang on, it's doing sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/ --target=x86_64-efi
[10:21] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: just do the second one i posted after
[10:21] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: once thats done can you pastebin the output of: efibootmgr
[10:21] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: finished, ok will do
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: sorry that should be: sudo efibootmgr
[10:22] <calmtits> should I just try to erase that "warning" partition and try to see if I can install Ubuntu then?
[10:22] <ur0pl> for xubuntu
[10:22] <ur0pl> [02:20:36] <ur0pl> hi
[10:22] <ur0pl> [02:20:41] <ur0pl> i don't see the top toolbar
[10:22] <ur0pl> [02:20:44] <ur0pl> how do i get it again?
[10:22] <ur0pl> [02:21:02] <ur0pl> i tried restart lightdm , but that didn't fix it
[10:22] <FloodBot1> ur0pl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <hitsujiTMO> calmtits: that warning part is windows BCD ... leave it
[10:23] <Nothing_Much> My sources.list keeps screwing up on me and I can't figure out how to get rid of an "expected entry"
[10:23] <D4rkness> ur0pl what version of linux are you running
[10:23] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387057/
[10:24] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: sweet. try restarting and booting the ssd.
[10:24] <lovelyvaio> ok
[10:25] <calmtits> should I just follow the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI and stop worrying that the installer doesn't give me the install alongside option?
[10:25] <D4rkness> thats what i did
[10:25] <D4rkness> turned out fine for me
[10:26] <D4rkness> just dont do it on the partition thats holding windows and you'll be fine
[10:26] <D4rkness> during the installation you will see it say "detecting other operating systems"
[10:26] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: it fails to boot, i get the vaio screen that offers me to enter the bios/uefi
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: not even a grub menu at all?
[10:27] <lovelyrandomness> guess because it looks for that microsoft  uefi only
[10:27] <lovelyrandomness> no
[10:27] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: disable secure boot in the bios
[10:27] <D4rkness> im sure its looking for the windows 8 image so it can add it to the list of start up OS's
[10:27] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: i have
[10:28] <lovelyrandomness> always, did that the first time after i entered the bios
[10:28] <D4rkness> because right after the install i say ubuntu first on the list then windows 8 on the very bottom
[10:28] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: turn back on secure boot and boot the live cd
[10:28] <calmtits> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_partition Mount point: /boot/efi (remark: no need to set this mount point when using the manual partitioning, the Ubuntu installer will detect it automatically)
[10:28] <D4rkness> they should both be on the grub menu that will pop up
[10:28] <calmtits> should I just create a /boot then?
[10:28] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: 13.10 has a shim that allows booting with secureboot enabled
[10:29] <lovelyrandomness> ok, booting...
[10:30] <D4rkness> calmtits it is an efi partition so if what their saying is accurate it will auto dectect it
[10:30] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: might as well try that reinstall so, but first, gonna clear out the boot manager
[10:30] <Benkinooby> hi, can the ubuntu 12.04.3 desktop i 386 iso image (741MB) be burnt to a CD?
[10:30] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: ok
[10:30] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: i'm in
[10:31] <hitsujiTMO> open the console again. pastebin the output of: lsblk
[10:31] <Nothing_Much> oh ffs
[10:31] <calmtits> if you use the manual partitioning ("Something else"), the difference is that you will have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition.
[10:31] <Nothing_Much> I can't figure out this sources.list thing!
[10:31] <bekks> Benkinooby: If you have an empty 750/800MB cdrom medium, yes.
[10:31] <calmtits> so I create a /boot pointing to /dev/sda2 in my case?
[10:32] <calmtits> or just use /dev/sda2 and assign a mount point to /boot?
[10:32] <Nothing_Much> I'm on armhf and it keeps spewing out needs for main/binary-x86/Packages!
[10:32] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: and can you pastebin the output of: sudo efibootmgr
[10:32] <bekks> calmtits: Thats not sufficient for UEFI.
[10:32] <bekks> calmtits: you need that /boot/efi mountpoint
[10:32] <calmtits> I'm following the guide here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[10:32] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387096/
[10:33] <yeyeman> what is .odp?
[10:33] <Benkinooby> bekks: there are CDs with differnt size
[10:33] <Benkinooby> ?
[10:33] <Jordan_U> yeyeman: Open Document Presentation
[10:33] <calmtits> and it says "Mount point: /boot/efi (remark: no need to set this mount point when using the manual partitioning, the Ubuntu installer will detect it automatically)"
[10:33] <calmtits> so I'm not sure what I must do manually, just /boot or what
[10:33] <Benkinooby> bekks: i only have 700MB CDs - some mention 80 minutes. i don't knwo how accurate those specs are
[10:34] <Nothing_Much> I'm on armhf and it keeps spewing out needs for main/binary-x86/Packages!
[10:34] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: can you pastebin: sudo ebibootmgr
[10:34] <Jordan_U> !mini | Benkinooby
[10:34] <calmtits> one part says "you must do /boot/efi pointing to the EFI partition" the other "no need to set this manually"
[10:34] <D4rkness> what computer do you have calmtits
[10:34] <calmtits> as in specs or mobo?
[10:34] <Benkinooby> Jordan_U: thanks i know that. i was just curious, since i never saw CDs that say 750 or 800 MB
[10:34] <calmtits> I'm on a desktop PC atm
[10:34] <D4rkness> the computer model and the bios name
[10:34] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: sorry that should be: sudo efibootmgr
[10:35] <calmtits> I bought parts seperately
[10:35] <Nothing_Much> Guys, I seriously can't figure this out, I'm close to raging, I need some assistence asap.
[10:35] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: command not found :/
[10:35] <D4rkness> hmmm alright what bios came preinstalled on your hard drive?
[10:36] <Nothing_Much> My sources.list is beyond repair and it keeps asking me for binary-x86 stuff, I'm on an armhf computer
[10:36] <calmtits> bios? need to reboot to see that but the mobo is Gigabyte
[10:36] <D4rkness> or motherboard lol
[10:36] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: for? (notice my spelling mistake earlier): sudo efibootmgr
[10:36] <calmtits> GA-B75M-D3H
[10:36] <D4rkness> ok wait
[10:36] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: would a full reinstall, where i let ubuntu wipe the complete ssd and install using legacy mode, encrypted, w/o LVM work?
[10:36] <lovelyrandomness> yes, i tried sudo efibootmgr
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: trying that now. just want to clear the boot manager first
[10:37] <lovelyrandomness> won't that get cleared if ubuntu wipes again?
[10:37] <calmtits> thanks for that D4rkness, most people I see stopped bothering with me :/
[10:37] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[10:38] <D4rkness> ok i dont know what makes your computer from any other you shouldnt even need a efi to install 13.10
[10:38] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: no, its not stored on the ssd
[10:38] <Nothing_Much> My sources.list is beyond repair and it keeps asking me for binary-x86 stuff, the official repository keeps redirecting to the wrong ports for x86 packages
[10:38] <D4rkness> different*
[10:38] <Benkinooby> Nothing_Much: dude, if no one is answering then there is no one who can or wants to help you. repeating your question does not help either. neither does "OMFG! I needz da help asap !!1!"
[10:38] <calmtits> D4rkness: it's cause I installed Windows 8 with efi
[10:38] <Nothing_Much> Benkinooby: Oh, this isn't a support channel? Pardon me then. :/
[10:38] <D4rkness> oooooooh that simplifies things
[10:39] <lovelyvaio> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387116/
[10:39] <D4rkness> then yes you will need to install ubuntu the same way
[10:39] <D4rkness> and have the same version of efi
[10:39] <D4rkness> that you used on 8
[10:39] <Benkinooby> Nothing_Much: it is a support channel. but only if people who are able to help you are around and if those said people have time for you
[10:39] <D4rkness> not the same exact file but the same exact version
[10:40] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: and i read on the docs to boot repair, that i could later on convert from legacy to UEFI
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387122/
[10:40] <jiwan> i can't update my linux
[10:40] <jiwan> why
[10:40] <jiwan> ??
[10:40] <D4rkness> if you dont have the same version then theres no guarantee windows 8 will stay on the boot list
[10:40] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: i'd never recommend trying to convert. it can get messy
[10:41] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: done
[10:41] <lovelyrandomness> well, what's the downside in not using UEFI
[10:41] <lovelyrandomness> ?
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: open gparted and delete all the partitions then write changes to disk
[10:41] <D4rkness> but yes if windows 8 went on through efi ubuntu must also go on that way so that if may be added to the list of startup os's
[10:42] <D4rkness> it*
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: non efi uses mbr partition table, which has nasty limitations and more ways to mess up the bootstrap
[10:43] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: done, it warned me that is has no valid fake msdos partition table
[10:43] <HisaoNakai> Hey folks. I'm trying to remove all backup files in a folder using find /path/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print0 -iname '*~' | xargs -0 rm . But it deletes all files in that folder, instead of the backup ones. Please help :\
[10:43] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: thats ok. start the installer and install away
[10:44] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: damn, now i don't want legacy
[10:44] <lovelyrandomness> maybe i should go to my local hackerspace
[10:44] <lovelyrandomness> and see if someone there would want to give me some advice
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyvaio: did you boot as uefi or usb ?
[10:44] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: just give it another install
[10:45] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: ? u have it set to uefi and booted from usb
[10:46] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: wait.. efibootmgr wouldn't have worked if you booted as legacy mode. drive on. install away
[10:47] <lovelyrandomness> should i drop the LVM now?
[10:47] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: i'd say yes, because of 2 other bugs that can mess that up for you
[10:48] <lovelyrandomness> ah ok, thank you!
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: just stick with legacy layout for mow
[10:48] <hitsujiTMO> now*
[10:48] <lovelyrandomness> :(
[10:50] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: there's a bug where, depending on what usb chipset you have, your keyboard does not get loaded for the point where you need to enter your encryption password. another where it shows a black screen at that password prompt, instead of the prompt.
[10:52] <lovelyrandomness> for the LVM+encryption?
[10:52] <lovelyrandomness> i  really need/want encryption
[10:52] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: yup. and theres no need for lvm if you're not doing encryption
[10:53] <lovelyrandomness> ah, man, i was so happy to finally migrate from osx with full disk encryption to ubuntu with easy full disk encryption too
[10:53] <lovelyrandomness> it works super fine on my friends eee pc
[10:55] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: will be back to normal with 14.04 hopefully. i beleive both bugs have fixes made. just not make it to a live cd
[10:56] <lovelyrandomness> what do i search for on launchpad? i want to check, if my chipset is affected
[11:01] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: this is the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194   its if you require ohci_pci
[11:02] <D4rkness> i know the fix
[11:03] <D4rkness> you must use a bluetooth keyboard or use the mouse to click the menu and go to settings, then enable on screen keyboard
[11:03] <D4rkness> after login update your drivers
[11:03] <D4rkness> should contain a fix
[11:03] <lovelyrandomness> thank you hitsujiTMO
[11:08] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: that install done yet?
[11:09] <lovelyrandomness> nope, i have to head out, as much as i'd like to spend one whole day, to get it up and working again. my friends want to see me and i have to work too :/
[11:09] <silidan3> hi, i have several applications and also files and folders in the file manager without an icon to it in ubuntu 13.10 unity, how can i solve that problem?
[11:09] <lovelyrandomness> hitsujiTMO: i think i will go to my local hacker space tonight and ask around, if they have an idea, or at least try the install there, they have fast wifi :)
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: hehe. hopefully this time it will go smoother at leasy
[11:10] <hitsujiTMO> lovelyrandomness: sweet
[11:17] <hitsujiTMO> silidan3: can you show us a screenshot of the problem?
[11:18] <silidan3> hitsujiTMO: shouldnt be necessary, apps are there i can click them in unity sidebar. but they have no icon, just empty space, also in file browser icons look all the same for files and folders
[11:20] <Gblue> Is there somebody that can give me a Linux VPS for free? It's just for some ZNC & IRC hosting :p 32MB RAM is enough
[11:20] <hitsujiTMO> gblue: try amazon AWS
[11:21] <Gblue> okay
[11:21] <Gblue> oh
[11:21] <Gblue> can i host a ZNC on amazone aws?
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> silidan3: can you try reinstall the icons: sudo apt-get install --reinstall unity-asset-pool
[11:22] <hitsujiTMO> gblue: you should be able to do whatever you want. its a small vps with some restrictions but its more than enough for znc
[11:23] <silidan3> hitsujiTMO: did that, should i log out log in for it to take effect?
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> silidan3: yup
[11:23] <Gblue> okay hitsujiTMO and that's free lifetime?
[11:23] <hitsujiTMO> Gblue: free for 1 year
[11:24] <Gblue> k
[11:24] <giwrgaras> hi
[11:24] <giwrgaras> i've got a prob, i installed win8 and they deleted my ubuntu or something
[11:24] <giwrgaras> i had a dual boot, but after the win8 installation i cannot access my ubuntu
[11:24] <systemfish> upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 ... now I have cli only, no desktop
[11:25] <Benkinooby> Gblue: why not host it on your own?
[11:25] <hitsujiTMO> Gblue: there are other services too http://www.vps.me/free-vps
[11:25] <sventon> hi all, I get a purple screen with a white flickering row in the middle of the screen. I try to start in safe mode using F8 with the same result. What to do now ?
[11:25] <aloiece> still having the issue that my webdav won't work. Trying to access a webdisk but nautilus is giving me "not a  dav enabled share". any tricks available?_
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair    you can use this froma live cd
[11:26] <giwrgaras> gr8 thanks hitsujiTMO
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: what gpu?
[11:26] <giwrgaras> live cd is the installation ubuntu 13.04 cd that i have
[11:26] <giwrgaras> ?
[11:26] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: yup
[11:27] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: nividia
[11:27] <systemfish> nvidia*
[11:27] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg
[11:27] <silidan> HisaoNakai: didnt help, still same issue
[11:27] <giwrgaras> can i do that inside windows also? i tried something like that when i booted from ubuntu and i saw only the install again option
[11:28] <hitsujiTMO> silidan: install gnome-tweak-tool   and change the icon them ...., then change it back
[11:29] <HisaoNakai> Hey, silidan :D
[11:29] <giwrgaras> oh i see thats a different disc its called specifically boot repair disc
[11:29] <silidan> HisaoNakai: oops, wrong one... i mean hitsujiTMO
[11:30] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: when you boot the live cd you should be given an option Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu    ... just go for try ubuntu ... if it boots the installer, just quit the installer and it will bring you to the live desktop. you can also install an irc client if you need to come here
[11:30] <HisaoNakai> silidan: I found it. It seems to have to do with the order of arguments in find. In my case putting -print0 after everything else worked.
[11:30] <HisaoNakai> silidan: oh lol!
[11:31] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: you can install the boot repair tool onto the ubuntu live disk too
[11:31] <silidan> hitsujiTMO: well the software center has no idea of gnome-tweak tool, i try unity tweak tool
[11:32] <giwrgaras> if i boot once with the try method after that will it correct itseft?
[11:33] <hitsujiTMO> silidan: try again for gnome-tweak-tool. make sure you have universe repo enabled.
[11:33] <giwrgaras> or just go in and from there dll the repair disc. im concerned because my ubuntu was not empty and i had files there that i need
[11:33] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: as in boot with: try ubuntu. add boot-repair ppa. install boot-repair. run boot repair
[11:34] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: failed to load nouveau (only got a console, hard to pastebin)
[11:34] <donc3> Hi! I have two problems with ubuntu, could sbdy help me?
[11:34] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: and failed to load fbdev
[11:35] <systemfish> and vesa.. (module does not exist)
[11:35] <silidan> hitsujiTMO: thanks that helped
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit && pastebinit Xorg.0.log
[11:35] <systemfish> ah, thnx
[11:35] <hitsujiTMO> silidan: sweet
[11:35] <silidan> hitsujiTMO: duude
[11:36] <giwrgaras> is it safe enough (boot-repair)or i wont be able to boot from windows 8 afterwards?
[11:36] <donc3> firstly when I turned it on, in the  Ubuntu load window it says me "The disk controller for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready or present Continue waiting or push S to omit or push M to load it manually"
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> giwrgaras: yes, its quite a safe tool
[11:37] <sventon> I have also tried to hold down the shift key during boot to get a terminal window but that don't seems to work ether, I really need help with this. Can't find any relevant information in the forums
[11:37] <lucido> I have a resolution option at the display settings 1360x768, but when I chose it the image hangs out of the lcd, how can I fix that?
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: can you restate your issue
[11:38] <Junka> hello
[11:38] <Junka> I have a laptop
[11:38] <Junka> but my battery life is not so good. What do you recommend?
[11:38] <donc3> the second problem is that sometimes and without doing nothing Ubuntu turns crazy and it puts in low graphics mode, and then I have to reboot
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> Junka: what do you mean batterly life is no good? how long is the battery lasting?
[11:39] <donc3> Could somebody help me?
[11:39] <Junka> around 2 hours hitsujiTMO
[11:39] <l9_> donc3: yeah
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> Junka: what gpu do you have?
[11:40] <Junka> hitsujiTMO, GMA 4500MHD
[11:40] <Junka> intel
[11:41] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: yes, I been able to create a bootable USB stick but then I restart my computer and boot my USB I get a purple screen with some flickering white stuff in the middle of the screen.
[11:42] <hitsujiTMO> junka, the most you can do to improve the battery is install indicator-cpufreq    which will allow you to adjust the cpu speed. on demand is a good setting, or powersave if you want to keep the laptop on lowest usage. also turn down the brightness level
[11:43] <Junka> hitsujiTMO, my cpu does not support scaling
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:43] <Junka> I hear a lot about tlp powermanagement but I dont wanna use something out of ubuntu's repo aka ppa. On software settings there is laptop-mode-tools, what do u think?
[11:44] <gordonjcp> !en | Junka
[11:44] <francesco2> btw guys ubuntu is fantastic the most user friendly linux distro :)
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: can you get the grub screen up (usually hold left shift ... or right shift ... or hit esc at initial boot) and there just hit e to edit the grub menu, add "nomodeset" after "quiet splash" (without quotes ofc) and hit f10 to boot
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | sventon
[11:46] <donc3> firstly when I turned it on, in the  Ubuntu load window it says me "The disk controller for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready or present Continue waiting or push S to omit or push M to load it manually"
[11:46] <donc3> the second problem is that sometimes and without doing nothing Ubuntu turns crazy and it puts in low graphics mode, and then I have to reboot
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> junka: power management stuff is just cpu freq scaling, disabling hdd when inactive for long periods. it seems all you can do is turn down the brightness of your display
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | francesco2
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: you got those urls yet for me?
[11:50] <johndude> for using this command : find /path/to/dir -name "*<string>*" -->how do i build a string like "20131109" to include todays date in place of *<string>*
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> johndude: this sounds like homwork
[11:51] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: I have tried to hit left and right shift and esc but it don't take me anywhere, same thing with f4 and f8.
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> homework*
[11:52] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: can you go into your bios and enable legacy usb and try again
[11:52] <johndude> could i use $date? i couldnt find the exact thing by search
[11:53] <hitsujiTMO> johndude: date +%Y%m%d
[11:54] <johndude>  find /path/to/dir -name date +%Y%m%d :  like this hitsujiTMO ?
[11:54] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: I have a macbook and as I understand it there are no bios settings
[11:54] <donc3> Could somebody help me???
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> use backtick: find /path/to/dir -name `date +%Y%m%d`
[11:55] <donc3>  when I turned it on, in the  Ubuntu load window it says me "The disk controller for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is not ready or present Continue waiting or push S to omit or push M to load it manually"
[11:55] <johndude> okay lemme try right away hitsujiTMO ty very much
[11:55] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: ahh, i know nothings of macbooks i'm afraid. have you tried the mac specific iso?
[11:56] <sventon> is there a  mac specific iso ?
[11:56] <hitsujiTMO> sventon: http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/    64bit mac iso
[11:57] <minimec> donc3: If you have your crypted partition on a normal hard drive and not a ssd, I would consider this as 'normal'. Happens on my laptop too.
[11:57] <minimec> donc3: Takes some tome to mount a crypted partition.
[11:58] <minimec> donc3: Please... No private messages.
[11:58] <donc3> sorry how can I mention you??
[11:59] <donc3> I thought that was "\msg"
[11:59] <minimec> donc3: How long does it take to mount the drive? There is no solution. I tjust takes some time to mount the drive, that's all.
[11:59] <donc3> okay, and can I uncrypt this partition??
[11:59] <donc3> decrypt*
[11:59] <minimec> donc3: write the nickname of the person, you want to talk to, that's enough to 'notify' the person.
[12:00] <donc3> minimec ok
[12:00] <minimec> donc3: No. Once crypted, you cannot go back.
[12:01] <minimec> bythe way. Good day everyone...
[12:01] <donc3> minimec: and I have another problem is that sometimes and without doing nothing Ubuntu turns crazy and it puts in low graphics mode, and then I have to reboot
[12:01] <Guest84394> if i'm on live cd, and want to make sure that no information is recorded after shutdown, i was told that i need to umount everything shown in "mount", right now mount returns: http://pastie.org/8467569 ; i'm not on a live cd right now, but if i were, how would i umount all of these?
[12:01] <hitsujiTMO> o/ minimec
[12:01] <minimec> donc3: Would that be on boot too or during a normal session?
[12:01] <sventon> hitsujiTMO: Didn't know about that! I will download ant test that ISO and see what happens. Thanks a lot really
[12:02] <donc3> during a normal session
[12:02] <minimec> hitsujiTMO: Looks that you staay awake 24/7... Amazing ;)
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> minimec: rofl. i'm just allover the place
[12:02] <minimec> donc3: That is not normal, I agree.
[12:03] <donc3> minimec: yes, I know
[12:03] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: fixed it, thanks.
[12:03] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: cool
[12:04] <donc3> minimec: what can I do?
[12:04] <minimec> donc3: What exactly happens, when ubuntu 'turns crazy', as you say?
[12:04] <hitsujiTMO> Guest84394: sudo umount -a
[12:05] <donc3> minimec: the screen turns black and it doesn't works anything till it says that it has turned in low graphics mode
[12:05] <Guest84394> -a     All of the file systems described in /etc/mtab are unmounted. (With umount version 2.7 and later: the proc filesystem is not unmounted.)
[12:05] <Guest84394> hitsujiTMO: can you explain more please? this won't umount the cd but everything else? what about swap and harddisk?
[12:07] <minimec> donc3: Is that on a laptop? When it happens, did you try to switch to a console with <ctrl><alt>f1 once? It would be very interesting to read out the log files, after such an incident.
[12:07] <donc3> no, in a desktop pc
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> Guest84394: i've never tried it tbh, but it should unmount everything it can. anything thats needed will be forced to keep mounted. the swap is never mounted. yo use a swap drive you use: sudo swapon /dev/sdX and to disable a swap: sudo swapoff /dev/sdX
[12:08] <goldug> hey, I'm thinking about switching to Ubuntu or some ubuntu-based distro. how are the game support nowadays? I know there's Steam, but if I wanna play, like, Battlefield 4, is that possible in Wine or something? And how well does it do?
[12:08] <donc3> minimec: I have a ati 3850 HD agp, no I haven't try to read the log files, cause I don't know what log file is
[12:09] <minimec> donc3: Ok. You see. Now we would need the log files, to know what exactly happens on your machine.
[12:09] <Guest84394> ok i see
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !wine|goldug, results vary.  see wine for more details
[12:09] <Guest84394> ty
[12:09] <donc3> minimec: ok
[12:09] <johndude> hitsujiTMO >> the command didnt work :/
[12:09] <hitsujiTMO> goldug: no. stick with windows if you want absolutely all games. best thing to do its to install ubuntu alongside windows and use them both til you get used to ubuntu
[12:09] <goldug> okay, thanks.
[12:09] <minimec> donc3: ati 3850 HD AGP! That is the problem, I think. Do you use Ubuntu 13.10?
[12:09] <johndude> printed out nothing
[12:10] <johndude> i just need to evaluate todays date in the command as i ll place it in a script
[12:10] <donc3> minimec: yes I use it
[12:11] <minimec> donc3: In fact... If I remember well, the opensource drivers have problems with the AGP slot standard.
[12:11] <donc3> minimec: but it works perfectly always!
[12:11] <systemfish> what nvidia driver do you want?
[12:11] <goldug> hitsujiTMO: okay, that's what I thought. I have an SSD disk @ 250GB, så switching between the OS's will probably be fast... however, at this rate my ssd is almost full already...
[12:11] <systemfish> I have 8800GT.. how can I figure out what nvidia driver to install?
[12:11] <minimec> donc3: It worked with previous versions, right? But not anymore...
[12:12] <donc3> minimec: No,but now works perfectly
[12:12] <donc3> but sometimes it gets this issue
[12:12] <donc3> I don't now why
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> johndude: i forgot to add wildcards: find /path -name "*`date +%Y%m%d`*"
[12:13] <goldug> I don't like the new window manager in Ubuntu however, is it unity? Don't remember what it's called, but it is easy to switch to a window manager that I find "better"?
[12:13] <goldug> is it*
[12:13] <cfhowlett> goldug, very easy.   sudo apt-get install.  logout.  change desktop manager.  login.
[12:14] <johndude> hitsujiTMO>> i am testing right away thanx
[12:14] <minimec> donc3: Well I think the 'why' is the AGP card. The same card on pci-e wouldn't make any problem.
[12:14] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: nvidia-173-updates   (or nvidia-173)
[12:15] <donc3> ok
[12:15] <donc3> minimec: so what can I do?
[12:15] <makara_> hi. I've bought VPS hosting, and it has Ubuntu 12.04, but the bash prompt is not setup like on my notebook. All I get is a dollar sign. No color, tab completion, history, etc. I tried copying the contents of .bashrc, but it hasn't made a difference. What 2 do?
[12:15] <goldug> cfhowlett, thanks. I've been trying a couple of *nix distro's, but they all seem difficult, since I need to manually edit most config-files and such... I think it's fun, but I don't have time for it.
[12:15] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: installing nvidia-current (304) .. what could possibly go wrong? ^^
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> goldug: a very basic install of ubuntu would be about 30gb (including enough space for a single steam game to test)
[12:16] <spexi> Hi! I have Ubuntu Server 12.04, everytime after reboot I have to go and change nameserver to 10.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf. It has been while ago 10.0.0.2, but where it keeps inheriting it? I'm editing the file with sudo but still it is changed after reboot.
[12:16] <minimec> donc3: I am pretty sure, that you will not have that problem, if you step back and install Ubuntu 12.04 on that machine. At the same time you can reformat the partition and use it uncrypted. That will also speed up your system. This is what I would do in your situation.
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: 304 is for 200 series and up. 173 is the latest for your generation of gfx card
[12:16] <minimec> donc3: So I recommend you to use ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[12:17] <cfhowlett> goldug, try this for desktop environment only - not the full meal!  sudo apt-get install lxde && sudo apt-get install xfce4     (lubuntu and xubuntu desktop environments)
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: whats the output of: echo $SHELL
[12:17] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, /bin/sh
[12:17] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: so if I install 304.. nothing of benefit will happen really?
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: type: bash
[12:18] <makara_> ah
[12:18] <systemfish> hitsujiTMO: that is.. it isn't baackward compatible with my card
[12:18] <goldug> okay, but another question: I have 5 harddrives (including the SSD, so 4 HDD and 1 SSD I guess), and I use them for different things. One for storage, two for games (I have a LOT), one for programs that doesn't need to be on SSD, and the system disk - SSD.
[12:18] <howefield> systemfish: probably nothing, the card is supported on that driver.
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: what company did you buy the vps from?
[12:18] <goldug> How do I manage them in Ubuntu?
[12:18] <minimec> donc3: On the other hand, I know that you are not the only one with that AT/AMD AGP problem. So probably some people are working on a solution.
[12:18] <goldug> And do I need to reformat them?
[12:18] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, so it isn't even loading bash when I ssh in. What shell is sh then?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> systemfish: 304 is not compatable with your card
[12:18] <johndude> hitsujiTMO>>thanx soooooooo much. LAst thing just to make sure. The    "*`date +%Y%m%d`*"    part ALWAYS evaluates today right?
[12:19] <makara_> dash
[12:19] <makara_> amazing :|
[12:19] <makara_> thx
[12:19] <Hinterhuber> Hi there. I was just trying to udate Flash using Firefox on an unpriviledged account. The Flash Website tries to hand me an .apt file, but the "save as" is missing in Firefox.
[12:19] <donc3> minimec: okay thx
[12:19] <minimec> donc3: no problem
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> johndude: yup
[12:20] <donc3> minimec: and which log file should I see when it happens another time?
[12:20] <johndude> hitsujiTMO>> thank you very much indeed
[12:20] <goldug> it might be dumb questions, but I'm still a linux noob :(
[12:20] <johndude> goldug>> you are not alone :)
[12:20] <goldug> :)
[12:21] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, weloveservers
[12:21] <hitsujiTMO> Hinterhuber: flash isn't supported on linux anymore. there is no updates
[12:21] <cfhowlett> goldug, fwiw, alienware offers an ubuntu laptop ...
[12:21] <goldug> I've "compiled" a number of distro's, but only while following guides 100%.
[12:21] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, $3.50 a month!!!!
[12:21] <minimec> donc3: /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/syslog
[12:21] <goldug> cfhowlett, okay, nice :)
[12:22] <Hinterhuber> jitsujiTMO: I hope you are joking!
[12:22] <goldug> hitsujiTMO, w00t? No flash?!?
[12:22] <Hinterhuber> [sorry, got your name wrong] hitsujiTMO: I hope you are joking!
[12:22] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: if they're giving you dash as the default shell, then its a bit strange.
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> Hinterhuber: nope. pepper plugin in chrome is the only officially endorsed plugin for linux now.
[12:23] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, I ain't complainin
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: btw, amazon aws have ones for free
[12:24] <goldug> omg
[12:24] <kskdfmdkf> is there any skype like application for ubuntu, which can work on slow internet connection, i mean 2G GPRS connection
[12:24] <kskdfmdkf> At least for audio calls
[12:24] <Hinterhuber> hitsujiTMO: Maybe Ubuntu does not support it anymore, but Adobe certainly is. They also provide an .apt (which I need to download and install)
[12:24] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: do you actually get the 100mps bandwidth tho?
[12:25] <kskdfmdkf> Video calls not required
[12:25] <Guest84394> Hinterhuber: you can use the "tab" key to complete a name (type "hit" and then the tab key)
[12:25] <hitsujiTMO> Hinterhuber: no. adobe no longer support linux
[12:25] <goldug> anyways, gonna run away now. Wife is kicking my ass, going to buy a frame for some stupid painting...
[12:25] <Hinterhuber> Guest84394: Thanx! IRC is not my world.
[12:26] <Guest84394> yw
[12:26] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: how to fill adobe pdf forms then
[12:26] <goldug> Guest84394, I did not know that either, thanks from me too :)
[12:26] <kskdfmdkf> hitsujiTMO: i haven't seen any application which works well on adobe forms
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> kskdfmdkf: no idea
[12:26] <Guest84394> :) it works like in the terminal
[12:26] <kskdfmdkf> do u know the alternative?
[12:27] <kostkon> kskdfmdkf, install adobe reader using the software centre
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> Hinterhuber: read the yellow infox
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> Hinterhuber: read the yellow infobox here: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/?no_redirect
[12:27] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, what the heck would I do with 100mps??
[12:28] <kskdfmdkf> i am on a edge connection, 15-20 Kb/s sometimes when load is nil 28-29 Kbps
[12:28] <kskdfmdkf> i am facing frequent drops in skype calls
[12:28] <kskdfmdkf> i know because connection is slow
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> makara_: torrent? vps? (i use 200mbs on my ds)
[12:29] <kskdfmdkf> i am looking for alternative, which can work on slow internet connection,
[12:29] <kskdfmdkf> there should be some application for ubuntu to serve that purpose
[12:30] <kskdfmdkf> google voice is even worse than skype, skype can do some call but google require even high bandwidth
[12:30] <makara_> hitsujiTMO, I couldn't watch the movies fast enough when I downloaded through a 512kbps connection
[12:30] <kskdfmdkf> i couldn't purchase 3G Plans, because they are too costly for me
[12:31] <minimec> Hinterhuber: There is in fact a 'workaround' for flash on linux... Some netflix developer is working on a plugin that brings you the windows Silverlight and Flash versions to Linux. That thing is called Pipelight. It is using wine, but integrates very well into the installed Browsers (Firefox/Chromium). I use that for Silverlight... http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[12:31] <makara_> kskdfmdkf, Google chat is probably your best option
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !ekiga
[12:31] <makara_> i didn't have any success with ekiga
[12:31] <kskdfmdkf> makara_: for voice call?
[12:32] <makara_> kskdfmdkf, for video call. Sure. You need to setup some software.
[12:32] <kskdfmdkf> chating is not a problem :D
[12:32] <kskdfmdkf> makara_: i need audio only
[12:33] <kskdfmdkf> video call not necesssary to me
[12:33] <makara_> kskdfmdkf, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-google-talk-ubuntu-official-repository/
[12:34] <Hinterhuber> hitsujiTMO: Okay, maybe my wording was wrong: I am trying to install the latest _security update_. They state that they backport these
[12:34] <Hinterhuber> hitsujiTMO: (And Firefox warns me that my current version is unsafe)
[12:34] <Hinterhuber> minimec: Thanks for your help - but this is way too awkward. :(
[12:36] <minimec> Hinterhuber: I agree that this is not a 'clean' solution, but I need that for Silverlight...
[12:36] <Hinterhuber> minimec: Thank god I don't need Silverlight. I already hate Flash more than enough <g>
[12:37] <ct529> hi everybody .... do you know how to change a BIOS disk into an EFI disk??
[12:39] <minimec> Hinterhuber: One of our telekom/tv providers here uses Silverlight DRM for TV encryption.. :(
[12:39] <krz> what are the trendy stacking window managers nowadays?
[12:40] <CoolApps> Just got this error while upgrading: http://caftp.3owl.com/Downloads/Fail.png
[12:40] <CoolApps> Just uploaded that image, not really a good sign but it got trough the rest of the installation though.
[12:41] <CoolApps> Through*
[12:41] <CoolApps> What do you think?
[12:41] <Hinterhuber> Thanks anyone, I'm heading over to a Firefox channel, maybe they can help.
[12:41] <john_____> exit
[12:42] <CoolApps> ?*
[12:42] <CoolApps> No one?
[12:43] <patb_> CoolApps, I get a 404 on that url
[12:43] <CoolApps> http://caftp.3owl.com/Downloads/Fail.jpg
[12:44] <CoolApps> Did the file extension wrong...
[12:44] <patb_> CoolApps, I'm getting those warning daily for the last year.........I have no idea if it's benign
[12:45] <CoolApps> Maybe it is to do with the drivers which where added? -Pat
[12:45] <CoolApps> I did add the SD Card reader driver...
[12:45] <CoolApps> I guess it didn't do any harm really....
[12:46] <patb_> CoolApps, mine seem to be related to TCP table switching; but I do have 3 SD card readers perma-plugged in, so perhaps that's it, I dunno
[12:46] <CoolApps> Strange...
[12:46] <howefield> CoolApps: read the log file, but it appears connected to the SD card reader
[12:46] <hitsujiTMO> CoolApps: looks like dkms failed to build a module. look at /var/lib/dkms/rts_bpp/1.1/build/make.log
[12:46] <krz> whats the stacking wm that auto stacks?
[12:47] <minimec> CoolApps: Did you check the mentioned log file in/var/lib/dkms/rts_bpp/1.1/build/make.log ? Do you have enough free space on your '/' partition?
[12:47] <CoolApps> Looking at it at the moment...
[12:47] <caspar> hello guys I need some help with my Amd dual Graphic Cards
[12:48] <CoolApps> This is the first error:  error: unknown field ‘proc_info’ specified in initializer
[12:48] <CoolApps> initialization from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]
[12:49] <krz> is it wmii?
[12:49] <CoolApps> error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘rtsx_probe’
[12:49] <systemfish> sudo apt-get install nvidia-173 gives me nothing but a blank screen.. is there a particular known reason for that?  (trying to install nvidia-current now)
[12:50] <Junka> can i install itunes be installed under ubuntu?
[12:50] <CoolApps> Looks like expected errors.
[12:51] <CoolApps> Proc_Info...
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !itunes|Junka,
[12:51] <systemfish> Junka: try install it with wine, but I don't think you'll get all the functionality  (unless itunes exists for linux9
[12:51] <CoolApps> Maybe it is to do with previous attempts of installing drivers for that processor.
[12:52] <Junka> I wanna sync with the latest iphone
[12:52] <CoolApps> Wow, that bot is just all ready. :P
[12:52] <CoolApps> iPhone 5S? -Junka
[12:52] <Junka> y
[12:53] <Junka> will it work with wine? has anyone tested it?
[12:53] <MSRthelle> hello
[12:53] <MSRthelle> need help
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !details|MSRthelle,
[12:53] <CoolApps> pci-device-id...
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Junka, no and yes
[12:54] <caspar> !details
[12:54] <MSRthelle> i need mass inbox mailer
[12:54] <Junka> what if I run itunes under virtualbox?
[12:54] <howefield> Junka: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[12:54] <moppy> Junka, Not really. See here: http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[12:54] <maclu3> hello, why should i consider switching to ubuntu (from mac)? why is ubuntu (or linux in general) better than mac?
[12:54] <CoolApps> Yeah, I assume it is to do with the card reader driver...
[12:54] <cfhowlett> maclu3, OR you just run ubuntu ON a mac
[12:54] <moppy> maclu3, If you're happy with mac, why switch ? :-)
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !mac
[12:54] <OerHeks> MSRthelle, mass inbox mailer sounds like malware
[12:55] <moppy> maclu3, You don't need to switch anyway, just install Ubuntu in a VM and run it in a window on your desktop. See if you like it or not.
[12:55] <maclu3> but i mean what are the arguments used to support the point that ubuntu is better?
[12:56] <moppy> maclu3, I dont understand the purpose of asking that. Try it, if you like it, switch over. If not, dont
[12:56] <cfhowlett> maclu3, ^^^
[12:56] <cfhowlett> what he said
[12:57] <CoolApps> You will have to see yourself, there is A LOT of stuff which is useful in Ubuntu. - maclu3
[12:57] <auronandace> maclu3: the scope of this channel is support issues
[12:57] <maclu3> so it's just a visual preference? like how it feels kinda thing.... that's it?
[12:57] <moppy> maclu3, explain to me why you prefer red to blue
[12:57] <cfhowlett> maclu3, install it for yourself, see for yourself.  No one here is going to sell you anything .. unlike the fruitstore
[12:58] <cfhowlett> defend your selection of chocolate ice cream over strawberry
[12:58] <CoolApps> Well Ubuntu is advanced in ways but you can just avoid those advanced ways and use it has it is. - maclu3
[12:58] <cfhowlett> !mac
[12:59] <systemfish> when I log in, some stuff is trying to install itself.. but can't be installed. Can I remove it from whatever "to install" list that seems to exist? (nvidia-173-updates seems to be the package.. and I don't need it). Error msg is: failed to install nvidia-..
[12:59] <moppy> maclu3, If you want to PM me i can explain to you privately why *I* use linux but it's entirely subjective to me
[12:59] <Junka> ok i have installed the latest libimobiledevice, alla I need is a player like banshee?
[13:00] <maclu3> quite surprised of responses actually. thought you people believed strongly in some real superiority of ubuntu (real, not look and feel) and would give strong arguments for it . guess not then :)
[13:00] <cfhowlett> maclu3, so you're trying to instigate a debate?  not interested.
[13:00] <moppy> "you people"? See that choice of words is inflamatory and why discussions like this are just politics
[13:00] <Kromaz> maclu3: once you give ubuntu a chance you will never look back...
[13:00] <Junka> !players
[13:01] <auronandace> maclu3: ever heard of the phrase use the right tool for the right job?
[13:01] <maclu3> just wanted to hear some arguments if there are any, that's all
[13:01] <maintenance> hi everybody, someone can help me with a dualboot : boot repait repport here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387438/
[13:01] <moppy> PM and I'll tell you why I use it
[13:01] <cfhowlett> maclu3, do your own research
[13:01] <hitsujiTMO> maclu3: this is a support channel. not a debating channel
[13:01] <CoolApps> Lets say that Ubuntu is more for the advanced users. maclu3
[13:01] <OerHeks> maclu3, please don't poll in here, this is ubuntu support
[13:02] <cfhowlett> me mentally adds "don't poll and don't troll"
[13:02] <Inedible> Does anyone know if it's possible to access an existing shell/terminal on the same computer from another one? E.g. I have ssh'd into my development server but I want to access that existing SSH shell/connection from another shell (a local one)?
[13:02] <CoolApps> +1 - 0erHeks
[13:03] <hitsujiTMO> Inedible: no you need to use screen or tmux for stuff like that
[13:03] <moppy> Inedible, what is your use case for that?
[13:03] <caspar> I have a Problem with my AMD Radeon HD 8650G / 8670M Dual GPU. Basically my Laptop only uses the Radeon HD 8650G and he doesnt even show the other Graphic card as a discrete graphic card. But all the tutorials on how to get Dual Graphics working indicate that the computer "knows" that there is another discrete graphic card and thats why they dont work for me. So I just want to ask if anybody knows how to get dual graphics working
[13:03] <caspar> in this Situation or at least how to use the AMD Radeon HD 8670M  only .
[13:03] <giwrgaras> hi again im in from my boot disc using the try ubuntu method
[13:04] <Inedible> hitsujiTMO: The main reason I want to do this is to be able to access that shell from PHP eventually
[13:04] <moppy> Or hitsujiTMO could you enlighten me as to a typical use case for doing so? I've never encountered a situation like that
[13:04] <hitsujiTMO> Inedible: if you ssh and start a screen session. you can pick that screen session up again later from the local terminal or from another ssh session
[13:04] <giwrgaras> hitsujiTMO:  i can see my ubuntu partition, how can i get it back to work?
[13:04] <Inedible> hitsujiTMO: I actually already use screen but it doesn't solve my usecase
[13:04] <moppy> Inedible, Ca I ask why you would need  shell from php? isn't that like, really dangerous and don't they provide alternatives to it?
[13:05] <giwrgaras> from the try ubuntu version i can see and access both partitions, what can i do now? just install the boot - repair utility?
[13:05] <johndude> i am getting "omitting directory...." with this command.What am i doing wrong? find /media/sf_main/source -name "*`date +%Y%m%d`*" -exec cp -R /media/sf_main/backup {} \;
[13:05] <Inedible> hitsujiTMO: The reason I need to be able to do what I need is so that I use the existing SSH connection to the remote server instead of opening one when I need to (I'll be accessing the existing shell from PHP eventually)
[13:05] <Inedible> moppy: I need access to shell output from remote servers
[13:06] <Trudko> guys I am running ubuntu and windows from same disk. Can I resize directly from Ubuntu windows partition in order to get some extra space ?
[13:06] <moppy> Inedible, they dont create log files?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Trudko, you can use gparted on the ubuntu live cd to resize windows
[13:06] <maintenance> Trudko, yed but defrag+scandisk windows partition before
[13:06] <Inedible> moppy: That won't solve the problem of needing to log in to read the log file
[13:07] <hitsujiTMO> Inedible: is this by anychance for something like a minecraft server?
[13:07] <Inedible> moppy: With one SSH connection, I could grab the information locally
[13:07] <Inedible> hitsujiTMO: Nope, I'm grabbing data from a remote machine to display on a web page
[13:07] <Trudko> maintenance, so can I do it directyl from running ubuntu ?
[13:08] <moppy> Inedible, OK if you can't fix the remote servers to operate in a secure way, I guess you are required to SSH into them
[13:08] <ct529> Hi! I have a GPT disk with bios_grub, I need to move the disk to efi_grub .... how do I do that?
[13:08] <goc> hello lads and gals
[13:08] <CoolApps> How to I improve battery A LOT on Ubuntu?
[13:08] <Inedible> moppy: The servers are secure - I just want to avoid the overhead of ssh logging in every time I click the reload button on the webserver
[13:09] <moppy> CoolApps, have you got Jupiter?
[13:09] <Giwrgaras_> hi again help pls
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !details|Giwrgaras_,
[13:09] <goc> i am new to linux just switched from windows as much as i love it im confused even more
[13:09] <moppy> Inedible, I understand if you aren't responsible for the remote servers and have to use them as given, that's fine. However IMO I dont call it secure if they need an SSH login to read things they should be outputting via an API
[13:09] <CoolApps> I heard of it getting removed so I did not manage to get my hands on it. - moppy
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !details|goc
[13:10] <maintenance> Trudko, no defrag and scandisk under windows
[13:10] <Giwrgaras_> i installed win8 and afterwards i cannot access my ubuntu installation
[13:10] <Trudko> maintenance, yeah sure but once i defraged and scandigs from the windows can i just go to ubuntu and resize it from there wihtout livecd
[13:10] <Inedible> moppy: The other constraint is that nothing needs to be installed on the remote server
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !grub|Giwrgaras_,
[13:10] <Giwrgaras_> im in with a boot disc using the try ubuntu method and i want to repair the boot so that i can choose again which os to load
[13:11] <cfhowlett> !grub|Giwrgaras_,
[13:11] <knoppix> hi
[13:11] <maintenance> Trudko, yes
[13:11] <goc> I am running ubuntu 13.10 and i have installed apache2 since i am web designer and developer but i cant find the root folder its not in /var its not in /home when i open cfg file its empty but the http// localhost is up and running
[13:11] <Inedible> moppy: I could do a whole bunch of things if I could install mysql on the remote server but then I'd be operating outwith the parameters I've been given
[13:11] <maintenance> must go, bye
[13:11] <knoppix> Helo
[13:11] <Inedible> moppy: Memory being the primary one and resource usage needs to be low for the other one
[13:11] <moppy> Inedible, Yes I agree: I said it was quite OK if you aren't in charge of the remote machines. YOu just to work around what they give you. It's fine.
[13:11] <CoolApps> Do shift when you get to the underscore screen. - Giwrgaras_
[13:12] <minimec> goc: /var/www
[13:12] <goc> nop sir its not there
[13:12] <goc> i have lock tmp crash and metrics
[13:12] <goc> no www
[13:12] <moppy> Inedible, well it's not fine really, their setup is not secure, but it's nothing you can do, so no-one to worry about it :-)
[13:12] <knoppix> i can not to change the my folder in the system
[13:12] <Giwrgaras_> CoolApps:  i tried with the live cd but i get only 2 options: try & install
[13:13] <Giwrgaras_> no reccomended repair option or a repair
[13:13] <cfhowlett> !grubGiwrgaras_, READ
[13:13] <cfhowlett> !grub|Giwrgaras_, READ
[13:13] <Inedible> moppy: How is that insecure?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras_, when you installed windows, you killed the grub bootload.  that can be recovered.  your ubuntu is still present
[13:14] <goc> im at a wall here
[13:14] <cfhowlett> goc, the folks on #ubuntu-server probably know where to look
[13:14] <Giwrgaras_> i read it now and it says to i&r Boot-Repair
[13:14] <goc> ill go there lads
[13:15] <CoolApps> cfhowlett, Yeah, Windows installs its own bootloader...
[13:15] <goc> thank you
[13:15] <goc> sorry for bothering you
[13:15] <cfhowlett> goc, good luck
[13:15] <Giwrgaras_> can i do that from the preview in which i am? i am using the try ubuntu now
[13:15] <knoppix> i have a bad error install msfcosole on
[13:15] <goc> ty
[13:15] <moppy> Inedible, the user your are SSHing into, is a locked down account, I assume?
[13:15] <davi> como que vai
[13:15] <Giwrgaras_> because i cant get in from my old ubuntu installation
[13:15] <irgendwer4711> hi, it seems to be that my 4k-hdd is working with 512, what to do now to activate 4k-mode?
[13:15] <CoolApps> Anything to improve battery a lot?
[13:15] <davi> tudo bem ai
[13:16] <davi> vc sabe mexer no linux
[13:16] <davi> ?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !es|davi,
[13:16] <fishduck> May I ask why monday isn't the first day of the week in unity's calendar?
[13:16] <moppy> fishduck, Why should it be? Many people consider that to be Sunday
[13:16] <cfhowlett> fishduck, why would it be?
[13:16] <davi> ok
[13:17] <fishduck> moppy:  work starts on monday
[13:17] <moppy> fishduck, for you maybe :-)
[13:17] <knoppix> can some one help me to install that file metasploit-latest-linux-installer.run
[13:17] <fishduck> ah.. culture shock :D
[13:18] <cfhowlett> fishduck, be strong and endure.  we have faith in you.
[13:18] <CoolApps> So about Jupiter?
[13:18] <fishduck> ^^
[13:18] <CoolApps> Where can you get it since it was removed?
[13:18] <donc3> Hi
[13:19] <donc3> somebody knows where is located xorg.conf in ubuntu 13.10?
[13:19] <donc3> because it is not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:19] <minimec> goc: check /etc/apache2/site-available/default That would show you were the 'It works' index.html is located.
[13:19] <knoppix> can some one help me to install that file metasploit-latest-linux-installer.run i get a error
[13:19] <hitsujiTMO> fishduck: starting day of week appears to be determined by locale. mon is here for mine
[13:20] <moppy> CoolApps, SO I just looked. Jupiter devs say it's not needed anymore as the newer kernel has power management improvements. Apparently. Ho-hum.
[13:20] <CoolApps> Seems legit... - moppy
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> donc3 its generated if you don't have one. and you don't have one.
[13:21] <CoolApps> Ok, thanks.
[13:21] <donc3> in /etc/X11/ it only is xorg.conf.failsafe
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> donc3: then you don't have an xorg.conf
[13:22] <donc3> hitsujiTMO: so how could i generate it??
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> donc3: man xorg.conf
[13:23] <knoppix> i have backtrack5 r3 94% i use and it works betar
[13:23] <donc3> hitsujiTMO: but mannually?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !backtrack|knoppix,
[13:23] <moppy> donc3, if you have nvidia, their driver program has something you can run to generate a default xorg.conf for tweaking
[13:23] <hitsujiTMO> donc3: yes. you don't need one unless you want to add something specific
[13:24] <donc3> hitsujiTMO: I only want that my screen doesn't turn off when I'm playing videos in fullscreen mode
[13:25] <moppy> donc3, which GUI?
[13:25] <moppy> donc3, unity has power manager options in the system settings for that
[13:25] <donc3> moppy: streaming videos
[13:26] <hitsujiTMO> donc3: install caffeine
[13:27] <donc3> hitsujiTMO: but caffeine doesn't work with youtube
[13:27] <lucido> looking at my X log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6387821/ can someone explain why is the "NULL" mode being set instead of the one specified in my xorg.conf?
[13:28] <marielle> how can i apply the "file" command to all the files in a directory?
[13:29] <n008> how do I find out the Linux Kernel I am running
[13:30] <BluesKaj> n008. uname -a
[13:30] <lucido> ping
[13:30] <knoppix> a to all hackers ther is a now thc-ipv6-2.5 in December
[13:30] <BluesKaj> n008. or uname -r
[13:31] <hitsujiTMO> marielle: file *
[13:31] <johndude> i am getting "omitting directory...." error with this command.What am i doing wrong? find /media/sf_main/source -name "*`date +%Y%m%d`*" -exec cp -R /media/sf_main/backup {} \;
[13:34] <n008> BluesKaj: better thanks
[13:35] <treonaut> any help in preparing a computer with dualboot ubuntu 13.10 and windows 8
[13:35] <rmobenchain> I have a question.  I just updated to 13.10 last night and am curious, did all the flash software upadate automatically or do I need to do more updates?
[13:36] <hamedk> how can i only update my firefox?
[13:36] <user_> aa
[13:36] <cfhowlett> rmobenchain, if you had flash before, it updated.  if not, install ubuntu-restrcited-extras
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|treonaut,
[13:37] <moppy> hamedk, current versions of firefox automatically update: I am not sure what you are asking. Does ubuntu's firefox disable that? Is this an older firefox?
[13:37] <Guest53119> Hi all. In 13.10 it strikes me as weird that I cannot chose the preferd email application anymore (custom link to chromium/gmail). Now it's just thunderbird. And google didn't help. Anyone has a suggestion here? I am looking for changing the preferred application for sending emails (i.e. files by email) to the browser and gmail there.
[13:38] <hamedk> moppy: mine is 22
[13:38] <hamedk> moppy: and i don't update via apt-get upgrade
[13:38] <Guest53119> This used to work via a shell script like i.e. firefox https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=`echo $1 | sed ‘s/mailto://’`
[13:39] <moppy> hamedk, there is a setting in firefox to get it to automatically update itself, give me a sec to find it
[13:39] <marielle> hitsujiTMO i tried that but i only get as a result "directory" i need to have the file command applied to each file of the directory
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> marielle: as in you want it to be recursive?
[13:39] <moppy> hamedk, navigate to "about:config" and look for "app.update.auto" setting. Set to true or false as required
[13:40] <moppy> hamedk, That is navigate in firefox, of course :-)
[13:40] <marielle> hitsujiTMO yes but i dont know how to do it
[13:40] <hamedk> moppy:its value is true
[13:41] <moppy> hamedk, so firefox should be auto-updating itself then ... i don't know why yours is not. Does ubuntu disable that?
[13:41] <hamedk> moppy: i don't know
[13:42] <angela_> quick question, I can connect to my VPS using SFTP, but when uploading files of 50MB in size, it just failed
[13:42] <friday_>   x
[13:42] <angela_> is this because of file upload size limit?
[13:42] <hitsujiTMO> marielle: find | file
[13:42] <angela_> where can I adjust it?
[13:42] <n008> how do I solve the flash bug, my screen freezes on fullscreen after a while
[13:42] <moppy> hamedk, you can get the package for the current ubuntu version here if that helps: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/firefox
[13:42] <gordonjcp> angela_: got enough free diskspace?
[13:42] <hamedk> moppy: thanks
[13:43] <angela_> gordonjcp: yeah
[13:43] <angela_> I think one other possible problem is that I might have set to prevent uploading in folder other than the home folder
[13:43] <angela_> but I still need to find the config file to confirm
[13:43] <angela_> do you know where the configuration file for sftp is?
[13:43] <gordonjcp> angela_: does it work with scp?
[13:44] <angela_> gordonjcp: I have several files to upload, hoping to get it working with filezilla :)
[13:44] <moppy> n008, I don't know but I can tell you that google chrome (not chomium) has an updated flash player : version 11.9. All other linux browers such as firefox and chromium are on 11.2
[13:51] <root> d
[13:51] <root> d
[13:53] <MarkDavis> hI
[13:53] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, greetings
[13:53] <MarkDavis> How can I check which ubuntu disc is my main Ubuntu disc?
[13:54] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, ... you mean hard drive?
[13:54] <MarkDavis> Yes, I think, cfhowlett.
[13:54] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, dude.  be sure.
[13:55] <MarkDavis> cfhowlett: to put the other way: I have two partitions. I want to know which partition is the main partition of Ubuntu.
[13:55] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: lol - but to answer your question use the commadn 'mount'
[13:55] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: the otput of that command will shouw you, where your / is mounted
[13:55] <Benkinooby> that
[13:55] <MarkDavis> cfhowlett: because the situation looks pretty crazy, I've formatted it and I've just checked that it... stills contains a lot of the old stuff.
[13:56] <Benkinooby> that's your system partition
[13:56] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, assuming you are or did dual boot
[13:56] <MarkDavis> yes, they were a dual boot
[13:57] <MarkDavis> but I formatted one of the partitions
[13:57] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, as Benkinooby stated: mount
[13:57] <cfhowlett> as in command, not verb ...
[13:58] <MarkDavis> Yes, so it even contains the directories of the users from the previous installation.
[13:58] <MarkDavis> cfhowlett: BTW, I use the words "drive", "discs" and "partitions" largely interchangeably.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> MarkDavis, thus my confusion ...
[13:59] <MarkDavis> /s/drive/drives
[13:59] <funkt> anyone here use plesk?
[13:59] <MarkDavis> /dev/sda1 on /
[14:01] <MarkDavis> I don't understand what's going on. Both the partitions contain a lot of the old stuff. How is it possible?
[14:02] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: whats the output of: lsblk
[14:04] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: well in that case, /dev/sda1 is your current system partition
[14:04] <MarkDavis> And I want to delete one of them. But it seems that the dictionaries of current users are on the partition which is not the Ubuntu's main partition.
[14:04] <MarkDavis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6388015/
[14:04] <sabgenton> what is in $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND
[14:04] <sabgenton> I can't get it to do anything
[14:05] <sabgenton> I'm guessing it's where u invoke it...
[14:05] <MarkDavis> sabgenton: I've just echoed it. It's empty.
[14:05] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: from the looks of it, sda5 should have nothing to do with the install of sda1
[14:05] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: paste the output of mount
[14:05] <sabgenton> MarkDavis: yeah same but it does something
[14:05] <sabgenton> in the right contexts
[14:06] <MarkDavis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6388019/
[14:07] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: maybe /media/be2a2093-1428-4424-bda3-61a8cabb9bfd is linked to your /home/ ?
[14:07] <MarkDavis> how can I check it?
[14:08] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: uhm... i'd search around with ls -al a bit
[14:08] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: you'll recognize links becasue they have the form name1 -> name2
[14:08] <geirha> MarkDavis: You said you formated "it". Is "it" /dev/sda5? and if so, how did you format it?
[14:08] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: ls -al /
[14:09] <arsdragonfly> How do I enter the advanced welcome page when booting from an kubuntu iso?
[14:09] <MarkDavis> Once I had yet another Linux and Ubuntu mounted it on a "media" directory. I don't exactly remember how the partition I had formatted had been called. But I told Ubuntu to format it when installing.
[14:10] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: so you want /dev/sda5 removed?
[14:10] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: ls -laR $HOME | grep "/media"
[14:12] <lucido> why am I getting this [    21.262] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" inspite of a validated mode defined in my xorg.conf?
[14:12] <MarkDavis> Benkinooby: I want to remove the partition which I can safely remove. But the partition which  is the main one of Ubuntu has directories of previously defined users, not now. The second partition has the directories of currently defined users.
[14:12] <MarkDavis> hitsujiTMO: It returns nothing.
[14:12] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: then nothing in your home directory is linking to that partition
[14:13] <hitsujiTMO> MarkDavis: /dev/sda5 is the "other" partition of you want to get rid of that
[14:14] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: what makes you think that /home of your /media/foo partition is the actively used one?
[14:15] <MarkDavis> I am not sure if it is "/home of /media/foo". But, as I already put it, the main partition of Ubuntu has users which has been never defined on it since installation. I've checked that my home folder contains the files I've got since the new installation.
[14:17] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: maybe ubuntu tried to be smart and did the following thing during install: oh, i see a previous ubuntu install, lemme copy those files into the new install so that the user can keep his files in the new install without all that backup-hasslpe
[14:17] <Benkinooby> *hassle
[14:18] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[14:19] <minimec> !fr
[14:20] <MarkDavis> Oh, no. I just confused the partitions. And I must have defined the users during the installation :D.
[14:20] <Benkinooby> MarkDavis: but to keep things short - dev/sda5 is the one to delete
[14:21] <Benkinooby> ok, so problem solved?
[14:21] <MarkDavis> Yeah. Thank you very much.
[14:24] <Benkinooby> :)
[14:30] <ciaoo> ciao a tutti
[14:30] <ciaoo> !list
[14:31] <denis> does anyone online..?
[14:32] <pacy> ?
[14:32] <denis> im just uni student and studhying IT at the moment..
[14:32] <denis> ive spending for about 3weeks..
[14:32] <denis> finding out which langauge i should study ..
[14:33] <denis> ive been studying c and java lately..
[14:33] <Benkinooby> denis: english would be a good start ;)
[14:33] <rypervenche> ><
[14:33] <pacy> i just joined but i assume youŕe talking about coding ?
[14:33] <denis> :)
[14:33] <pacy> well depends on what you are about to code, dont you think denis
[14:33] <denis> yeah... i mean.. hm.. did you guys all know what you want to do..?
[14:34] <denis> is anyone working in some company..?
[14:34] <rypervenche> Sure. I think many of us here are.
[14:34] <Benkinooby> denis: those who have to work are not reading this :P also maybe #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for this
[14:35] <Benkinooby> ^ ok, i am wrong. some are wrking and irc'ing at the same time :P
[14:35] <denis> :)
[14:35] <denis> sorry to bother you guys seeing this question .. just so stuck in my life at the moment..
[14:36] <lachitha> hello, im new to ubuntu
[14:36] <denis> should i value inderstry more than anything.. to get a job..?
[14:37] <Benkinooby> lachitha: welcome :)
[14:37] <pacy> as Benkinooby told you , this is offtopic :) there are plenty of channels which are welcome to discuss that with you
[14:39] <lachitha> hello, can anybody help me to wifi problem with my laptop
[14:39] <Benkinooby> !wireless
[14:41] <Benkinooby> lachitha: usually it's only a matter of few clicks - if you know how :)
[14:41] <lachitha> im using ubtunu 13.10, in network manager displays wifi is disabled by the hardware, how can i fix this
[14:41] <lachitha> @benkinooby can u help me to solve this
[14:42] <Benkinooby> lachitha: i'll try. first check if there is a hardware switch for your wifi.
[14:42] <Benkinooby> lachitha: are you using a lpatop?
[14:42] <lachitha> no there is only fn+f8, but its not working
[14:42] <lachitha> yes im suing a laptop
[14:43] <Benkinooby> lachitha: just a few question, so that i knwo what we're deling with. 1) is your laptop dualboot (windows and linux)?
[14:43] <sabret00the> Hi guys, looking at the ppa.launchpad.../ubuntu-mozilla-daily/.../binary-i386 is says that latest update was yesterday, however then i attempt to update and upgrade I'm not getting the update, any idea how to fix it
[14:44] <Benkinooby> 2) Did that wireless card work beofre in linux? did it work before in windows?
[14:44] <auronandace> sabret00the: contact the ppa maintainer
[14:44] <lachitha> @benkinooby im using only ubuntu. yes its works with windows 77
[14:45] <Benkinooby> lachitha: you don't need the @
[14:45] <lachitha> ok thans. im new to this
[14:45] <Benkinooby> lachitha: usually you can type the first few letters of my nick and the tab-complete it by clicking tab
[14:46] <Benkinooby> e.g. i only type la and then press tab
[14:46] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok i got it friend
[14:46] <Benkinooby> :)
[14:46] <sabret00the> Thanks auronandace
[14:46] <lachitha> benkin
[14:46] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ok, so first we want to make sure, that your wifi is not blocked by hardware. so check your BIOS settings. do you knwo how to do that?
[14:46] <goc> ok im back with another and i hope last problem lamp is making me rip my hair out
[14:46] <Benkinooby> lachitha: don't forget to hit the tab key
[14:47] <minimec> lachitha: First... Check if you accidently disabled it with a hardware key... 2nd... install rfkill 'sudo apt-get install rfkill' and try to 'rfkill unblock all', 3rd... I would reset your BIOS. Resetting the BIOS to its default values helped me with a similar problem with bluetooth.
[14:47] <Benkinooby> minimec: rfkill would have been my next step :P
[14:47] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok friend. no its enabled by bios
[14:47] <goc> to be exact i did phpmyadmin install which finished then i went localhost/phpmyadmin and i get 404
[14:48] <Benkinooby> lachitha: oh, are you cahtting from an other computer than the one with the wifi-problems?
[14:48] <Strathy> how can I enable 'eyecandy' on lxde environment? Nvidia drivers already installed.
[14:48] <Benkinooby> Strathy: maybe you'll have more luck in a lxde-related channel. e.g. #lubuntu or #lxde (if that exists)
[14:49] <lachitha> Benkinooby, no im chatting with the problem one. im connected with mobile broadband, i have another problem with mobile broadband. i'll tell it later
[14:49] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ok. so you already checked your bios?
[14:50] <lachitha> Benkinooby, yes i checked it. my wireless light indicator is on now
[14:50] <Benkinooby> lachitha: was it off before?
[14:51] <lachitha> no its always on. if I disabled it from bios. it will off
[14:51] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ah ok.
[14:51] <Benkinooby> lachitha: now next step: we will use the command rfkill
[14:51] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok, how can i do that
[14:51] <Benkinooby> lachitha: use the following commadn (without the ' ): rfkill list
[14:52] <Benkinooby> lachitha: use the following commadn (without the ' ): 'rfkill list'
[14:52] <Benkinooby> lachitha: do you get usable outptu?
[14:52] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok i did it, Wlan hard blocked YES, Soft Blocked NO
[14:52] <Benkinooby> *output
[14:52] <Benkinooby> ok
[14:54] <yeyeman> I hate youtube so much right now
[14:54] <lachitha> Benkinooby, phy0: Wireless LAN	Soft blocked: no	Hard blocked: yes
[14:54] <Benkinooby> lachitha: i'm reading abit on that topic... i think i had a simialr proble before but i don't knwo how i solved it
[14:54] <uncle_ben> i may need to reset a password on a router...how do i discover the make/model of the router and the local network address i need to put into the browser address bar to access the configuration menu?
[14:55] <pacy> uncle_ben: do you have no physical access to it ?
[14:55] <Benkinooby> lachitha: use the following commadn: 'lspci | grep 802'
[14:55] <uncle_ben> pacy, not at the moment
[14:55] <OerHeks> uncle_ben, for make/model see the router itself, and access is usually done with the gateway adresss you are using now
[14:56] <Benkinooby> lachitha: i want to know what wifi card you are using
[14:56] <Toph> uncle_ben,,, 192.168.1.1 is usually the router
[14:56] <SPEEDWAVE> my gamepad not function in ubuntu 12.04 my gamepad is just a local
[14:56] <lachitha> Benkinooby, intel wifi agn 5100
[14:56] <uncle_ben> OerHeks, ok, i'll check the device when i can... Toph if by chance that's not the address, how would i find it?
[14:57] <lachitha> Benkinooby, i did that, nothing happen
[14:57] <Benkinooby> lachitha: nothing is suppoed to happen. it just tells you waht wifi card you have, nothing else
[14:58] <Benkinooby> lachitha: try this 'sudo rfkill unblock all'
[14:58] <phong_> hi guys
[14:59] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok i did that
[14:59] <phong_> anyone know how to get svn setup ?
[14:59] <hamedk> i just lost a libreoffice document, its size became 0, out of the blue, libreoffice said it's corrupted and the file is locked for editing and after that i noticed its size has become zero, what the hell i can do ? all the Assignment due tomorrow is GONE
[14:59] <phong_> anyone would like to help me?
[14:59] <Benkinooby> lachitha: now 'rfkill list'
[14:59] <Benkinooby> aby changes?
[14:59] <Benkinooby> *any
[14:59] <CyberGabber> uncle_ben: Find 'Gateway'-adress by typing in console: netstat -r -n
[14:59] <Benkinooby> maybe you have to reboot
[15:00] <Toph> uncle_ben,,, check on the back/bottom of the router,, generally all info is there
[15:00] <Toph> uncle_ben,,, or, google the router brand and make and you will find documentation on it
[15:00] <pacy> uncle_ben: route -n or netstat -r -n
[15:00] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok I will reboot, this is the message phy0: Wireless LAN	Soft blocked: no	Hard blocked: yes
[15:00] <hamedk> pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase
[15:00] <uncle_ben> CyberGabber Toph pacy, great...thanks for your help
[15:00] <lachitha> Benkinooby, im going to reboot now
[15:00] <phong_> anyone know how to setup svnsubversion?????
[15:01] <jeffrey_f> phong_: Ask and wait.  If in a few minutes you don't get a response, ask again maybe with more info
[15:01] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ok, see you soon
[15:01] <pacy> uncle_ben: try to type the ip adress you get out of netstat in your browser .. sometimes the gateway(router) can be accessed by that
[15:01] <Benkinooby> hamedk: usually: turn off PC, get a resuce Live-CD and try to recover the data
[15:02] <Benkinooby> *rescue
[15:02] <hamedk> Benkinooby: isn't there a handier way?
[15:02] <Benkinooby> hamedk: not that i know of :/
[15:02] <Benkinooby> hamedk: maybe some1 else can offer better advice
[15:03] <uncle_ben> pacy, ok...i'll have to do this later when i'm at that location...thanks again
[15:04] <soul66> good morning
[15:04] <soul66> !list
[15:04] <babinlonston> There is a Image , and i want to make it circle how can i do it using GIMP , Badly I'm A new User to GIMP Before 2 Min's
[15:04] <phong_> does anyone know how to install/setup subversion to work?
[15:05] <soul66> see you
[15:05] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok, I used rfkill list but its same
[15:05] <Benkinooby> lachitha: hm :/
[15:05] <lachitha> Benkinooby, what shall we do
[15:06] <minimec> lachitha: Now comes the point, where I would reset the BIOS to default settings. There should be an option for that in your BIOS...
[15:06] <pacy> phong_: you've been here yesterday asking the same question over and over.. someone gave you the advice to read the documentation (which is prettx straight forward) you didnt took that advice ... you may should consider living your life without subversion. sorry
[15:07] <CyberGabber> uncle_ben: Did you find the ip-address of your router?
[15:07] <lachitha> minimec, why we have to reset bios, is this a bios problem
[15:07] <Benkinooby> lachitha: it might be and since i am out of ideas right now, it's the best guess :P
[15:08] <minimec> lachitha: I had exactly the same problem once eith my Lenovo laptop and Bluetooth. A BIOS reset did it...
[15:08] <uncle_ben> CyberGabber, no, i need to find the address of a router at a different location...my set up at home is wired without a router, so i can't even test the commands here, but at least i know what to do now
[15:08] <Benkinooby> lachitha: the problem is: hardware block is a problem, that you can not solve with software (surprise!!!)
[15:09] <lachitha> Benkinooby, why is that. in windows wifi works fine. this is problem with ubuntu
[15:09] <Benkinooby> lachitha: so you either have to find a way outside the operating system (BIOS) or find the correct hardware switch (seems like your fn+f8 is not a hard-wired switch but something that has to be run by your keyboard driver)
[15:10] <Benkinooby> lachitha: what laptop model do you use?
[15:10] <lachitha> im using toshiba l500D
[15:10] <pacy> Benkinooby: maybe NdisWrapper ?
[15:10] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ok. i'll see if i find somethign for that. but until then, resetting the bios settings is a fair guess
[15:10] <Benkinooby> pacy: wrong problem :P
[15:11] <lachitha> Benkinooby, ok i will reset the bios
[15:11] <pacy> Benkinooby: wrong solution :P
[15:11] <Benkinooby> pacy: fair enough
[15:11] <Benkinooby> pacy: although i wonder what you're doing in this channel though... :P
[15:12] <Benkinooby> pacy: maybe #wireless will suit your solutions better :D
[15:13] <pacy> Benkinooby: i should probably just wander around my city asking people if they need help with their wifi :)
[15:13] <pogiako2> hello
[15:13] <Benkinooby> pacy: that
[15:13] <pogiako2> how do i print to an HP printer?
[15:13] <Benkinooby> pacy: that's a good thing to do :)
[15:14] <pogiako2> trying to print but can't click on print
[15:14] <pogiako2> needs driver
[15:14] <pogiako2> where do i get driver for HP?
[15:15] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ypi
[15:15] <Benkinooby> lachitha: you're still here?
[15:15] <lachitha> Benkinooby, yes im here
[15:15] <Benkinooby> lachitha: can you paste the full output of 'sudo rfkill list'`
[15:15] <Benkinooby> ?
[15:15] <Benkinooby> !paste
[15:16] <Benkinooby> lachitha: ^ paste here
[15:16] <pogiako2> hello does anyone know how to print to a HP printer?
[15:17] <minimec> pogiako2: Can you give us the exact printer model you use?
[15:17] <lachitha> Benkinooby, phy0: Wireless LAN
[15:17] <lachitha> 	Soft blocked: no
[15:17] <lachitha> 	Hard blocked: yes
[15:17] <lachitha> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[15:17] <lachitha> 	Soft blocked: no
[15:17] <lachitha> 	Hard blocked: no
[15:17] <FloodBot1> lachitha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <francesco2> hello, I would like to ask I installed LXDE isntead of unity how can I enable it ?
[15:18] <pogiako2> HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 3525
[15:18] <Benkinooby> lachitha: don't paste in this channel. use one of the paste websites i just mentioned. you will be muted for about 5 minutes or so
[15:18] <Benkinooby> lachitha: don't worry, you'll be able to talk soon. in the meantime paste to paste.ubuntu.com :)
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> francesco2  logout, switch, login
[15:20] <pogiako2> minimec: how's the printer doing? :D
[15:20] <hamedk> apt-get doesn't work, says "E: Unmet dependencies. . . " what should i do?
[15:20] <Gblue> need cheap vps for minecraft, anyone?
[15:20] <francesco2> MonkeyDust: I logged out where switch ? :)
[15:20] <Ari-Yang> Gblue: that's not really a tech ubuntu suppot question.
[15:21] <Gblue> Oh
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> francesco2  on the small icon, the gnome or ubuntu symboil
[15:21] <Gblue> what's the channel then for those questions?
[15:21] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic > Gblue
[15:21] <francesco2> MonkeyDust: thank you :)
[15:22] <Gblue> thanks
[15:24] <manjaro-kde> hi guys I need you opinion does anybody tried ubuntu touch yet
[15:24] <ozberk> that's better
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> !touch | mammuth
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> mammuth  no opinions here, please, better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:27] <LonLel> join #alggorithms
[15:27] <minimec> pogiako2: Ok. I was on the phone... There is indeed a driver provided by HP... http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet_aio/deskjet_3520_series.html
[15:28] <arr_> hi
[15:28] <minimec> pogiako2: The driver is available here http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/hplip/3.13.11/hplip-3.13.11.run/download?use_mirror=heanet
[15:28] <arr_> how can I use awk to show all columns except the 2 last?
[15:28] <mammuth> disponible
[15:29] <Cow_Baek2_> tst
[15:30] <minimec> pogiako2: Doenload that hplip-3.13.11.run, make it executable 'chmod +x hplip-3.13.11.run' in the directory you saved it, and run it with 'sudo ./hplip-3.13.11.run' in that same directory.
[15:37] <Ivann> Hello, I need some help here :)
[15:37] <charpandnl> hi :)
[15:37] <Ivann> Hello charpandnl I'm having some issues with the Ubuntu installation
[15:37] <charpandnl> I've just succesfully configured pam_usb with a usbdevice to login
[15:37] <Ivann> nvm :p
[15:38] <charpandnl> a c'mon :P
[15:38] <charpandnl> tell me
[15:38] <charpandnl> what's the issue :)
[15:38] <Ivann> So I got this dedicated server from ShardGaming
[15:38] <Ivann> but I think they didn't set the network up right
[15:38] <Ivann> Because in the IPMI panel, the hostname is blank and it says I'm not allowed to edit it.
[15:39] <charpandnl> mmm
[15:39] <Shinobi> is there a way to dump the trash from the command line?
[15:39] <Ivann> And Ubuntu asks for a hostname, I just made one up for the time being
[15:39] <charpandnl> I don't know the service Shardgaming provides,
[15:39] <Ivann> This is for the Ubuntu server though, am I right?
[15:39] <jubale> Which config file do we edit to automatically mount Windows partition?
[15:39] <charpandnl> but it seems you do not have root rights?
[15:39] <hamedk> what the heck i can do when apt-get gives unmet dependecies? i tried the offers in askubuntu.com
[15:40] <Ivann> I can do a lot of stuff. I can mount ISO's and stuff
[15:40] <Ivann> but I can't really edit hardware settings
[15:40] <charpandnl> tried $ sudo nano /etc/hostname
[15:40] <Ivann> I'm installing Ubuntu right now with a random hostname, can that cause complications in the future?
[15:40] <yeats> hamedk: can you pastebin the full error you're getting?
[15:40] <hamedk> yeats: sure
[15:41] <charpandnl> Ivann, in my opinion not, 'cause you'll be running services,
[15:41] <charpandnl> a hostname only refers as indication, just like DomainNames are easier than IP
[15:41] <Ivann> Ok
[15:41] <Ivann> But still it's an issue right?
[15:42] <Ivann> I have no domain linked to the server right now, but if I do can I specify the sub-domain as hostname?
[15:42] <charpandnl> and when you're setting up an mailserver or something, you'll need to edit the config for those correctly,
[15:42] <Ivann> Or a webserver? Because I'm planning on running that on there
[15:42] <charpandnl> but the system hostname is only handy for users to see where the are atm
[15:42] <Ivann> Ok
[15:43] <charpandnl> Yeah mail, web, db... all the same ;)
[15:43] <Ivann> Oh god, so that needs the advanced network configuration?
[15:43] <hamedk> yeats: http://pastebin.com/7k0v3EuX
[15:43] <charpandnl> and ofcourse, hostnames can be used for lots of things, but the are not critical to set once, you can always change it
[15:44] <Ivann> ok
[15:44] <yeats> hamedk: do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[15:44] <Ivann> Thanks for the help man :)
[15:44] <hamedk> yeats : didn't work
[15:44] <charpandnl> np!
[15:44] <yeats> hamedk: same error?
[15:44] <charpandnl> now mine ;)
[15:44] <Ivann> I'm a linux noob :3
[15:45] <sar_A> hi again
[15:45] <charpandnl> I configured usb-auth succesfull, but now I want to let the Gnome-keyring to disappear on logon, without clearing the pw ;)
[15:45] <sar_A> how can I show all columns except the 2 last with awk ?
[15:45] <sar_A> with '{$NF=""; print $0}' I get all columns except last one; but I want from first one to (last-2)
[15:45] <charpandnl> gheghe :P
[15:45] <charpandnl> you'll learn quickly Ivann
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Ivann  you were once a windows or mac beginner too
[15:46] <yeats> sar_A: try $(NF-2) to specify the second to last
[15:46] <Ivann> True MonkeyDust
[15:47] <hamedk> yeats: update says: E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[15:47] <sar_A> yeats: thank you :D
[15:47] <yeats> hamedk: can you pastebin all the output?
[15:48] <charpandnl> But anyone? =>  I configured usb-auth succesfull, but now I want to let the Gnome-keyring to disappear on logon, without clearing the pw
[15:48] <dynamism> Hi everyone. I'm a linux noob looking for help with some weird behavior installing ubuntu. Am I at the right place?
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> dynamism  let's hear it
[15:48] <yeats> dynamism: yep - go ahead and ask your questions
[15:49] <dynamism> I'm attempting a usb drive install of 13.04 on an AMD box, and I can't get past grub
[15:50] <hamedk> yeats: http://pastebin.com/jMuAWRHe
[15:50] <dynamism> VGA output is a blank screen once i exit grub
[15:50] <sar_A> yeats: in thaat case only delete the NF-n column
[15:50] <dynamism> Everything I'm seeing tells me to use the nomodeset option, but either im missing something important, or it's not fixing the problem.
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | dynamism you mean this
[15:51] <minimec> hamedk: The medibuntu repository doesn't exist anymore. Remove this repo from your sources...
[15:51] <yeats> hamedk: what minimec said ;-)
[15:51] <hamedk> yeats: how to do it in command line?
[15:52] <yeats> hamedk: check /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[15:52] <Ivann> charpandnl, can I setup raid after the installation is done?
[15:52] <dynamism> MonkeyDust: maybe. It has to be !nomodeset, not nomodeset?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> dynamism  open the link and follow the instructions, you'll see
[15:53] <charpandnl> Ivann, that's possible I think, but I'm not experienced with RAID, so don't base this decision on my words
[15:53] <Ivann> Ok
[15:54] <hamedk> yeats: in sources.list no medibuntu , should i delete the file in sources.list.d folder?
[15:54] <mrrcp> whats the best method to install openvpn
[15:54] <minimec> hamedk: 'cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d', then 'ls' to see the files, then 'sudo rm medi-SOMETHING', then 'sudo apt- get update' ...
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> mrrcp  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[15:58] <hamedk> yeats: W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[15:58] <dynamism> MonkeyDust: ok, I've sen this before, but just tacking nomodeset on the linux line didn't change anything. But my grub commands look almost completely different than the ones in this thread.
[16:00] <dynamism> MonkeyDust: for one thing, it references /casper for linux and initrd. Is that related?
[16:01] <hamedk> yeats: http://pastebin.com/p1vZc0fy
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> dynamism  not sure, i've never had this issue myself
[16:02] <yeats> hamedk: I would assume your package installation will work until you have a successful 'sudo apt-get update' - did you resolve the bad signature issue?
[16:03] <hamedk> yeats:no
[16:03] <dynamism> My inclination is to rebuild my usb install, and if that doesn't work, try another distro
[16:03] <yeats> hamedk: this looks relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220
[16:04] <dynamism> It's hard to troubleshoot a problem without an os
[16:05] <ripthejacker> Has anyone used acestream in Ubuntu 13.10? If yes, then can you please guide me?
[16:07] <ripthejacker> Please help me setup acestream in Ubuntu 13.10?
[16:07] <TomAstro> hi folks,  Quick question, but may take a long answer to fix the Issue.  Is HDMI out supported with 13.10 as in previous versions??
[16:08] <BluesKaj> TomAstro. yes
[16:08] <Ivann> charpandnl, my ubuntu boots into a blank screen
[16:08] <Ivann> any ideas? :S
[16:09] <TomAstro> I have been at this for over a week. Since the fresh install of 13.10 and I have gone through every outdated fix for the earlier versions and No Joy.
[16:10] <TomAstro> Any suggestions for this new release that actually works?  And I don't even know if a fix will even work now since I have just about tried everything
[16:11] <TomAstro> This is my aplay -l output   http://pastebin.com/LSwdbvwt
[16:12] <dynamism> Anyone else have any suggestions on fixing my grub problem? I'm stumped.
[16:13] <TomAstro> Maybeeee...   I can help you with that while waiting for an ans on  my issue Or I'll trade you issues...   lol
[16:14] <cheeze> never used linux before anyone know a good tut site
[16:15] <ripthejacker> Ivann: It was working before?
[16:15] <Ivann> No, fresh from install
[16:15] <Ivann> but I can boot it from recovery mode
[16:15] <Ari-Yang> cheeze: that isn't an ubuntu technical support question.
[16:15] <TomAstro> Google can be your friend.  I live and breathe it for Tutorials
[16:15] <ripthejacker> Ivann: what gpu?
[16:15] <Ivann> No idea, it's a remote server
[16:15] <cheeze> sorry thought this was a general help channel
[16:16] <Ivann> ripthejacker, I'm guessing integrated
[16:16] <ripthejacker> Ivann: Oh, sorry, I thought you were booting into a local machine.
[16:16] <TomAstro> Cheeze  try tis in the google search.    Ubuntu ( or your distro ) : Tutorial
[16:16] <Ivann> I have "local access" through IPMI
[16:17] <cheeze> i did just figured maybe was something i may not have found yet and thank you
[16:17] <TomAstro> soo Ubuntu: tutorial or tutorials
[16:18] <ripthejacker> Ivann: Sorry, I have never installed Ubuntu server, so no idea.
[16:18] <TomAstro> Cheze  PM me here and maybe I can help you off channel here while waiting for help on my issue.
[16:18] <Ivann> Thanks anyways ripthejacker
[16:19] <TomAstro> Anyone on my no HDMI out in 13.10 ?
[16:20] <ripthejacker> cheeze: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[16:20] <hamedk> yeats: http://pastebin.com/6AtsTMJJ
[16:21] <hamedk> yeats: i wonder why meeeee, last hour i lost my due tomorrow assingment over librecrap
[16:21] <moppy> sad how adobe reader running wine renders complex PDFs quicker than evince :-(
[16:21] <TomAstro> Thanks Rip for posting that for him.  apparently he is not placing the effort to learn since No PM here.
[16:21] <moppy> sorry wrong channel guys
[16:22] <didthatwork> Good Morning, I am running 13.10x64 and looking for the mouse scroll wheel settings. It's taking a looong time to scroll through a webpage. Thanks
[16:22] <cheeze> sorry if i dont pm
[16:23] <cheeze> 1st time on xchat
[16:23] <minimec> hamedk: 'sudo apt-get purge mysql-server' once. Otherwise you will not get rid of these error messages.
[16:23] <TomAstro> Is there a specific channel for Ubuntu Audio setup?
[16:23] <cheeze> i feel like the ultra noob of the day
[16:23] <moppy> didthatwork, i don't believe it has it - you might need to try the various unity 'tweak' tools to get the extra control panel
[16:24] <TomAstro> NP  I just PMed you  look at the tabs if you are in a client IRC program
[16:24] <didthatwork> moppy, Thanks!
[16:24] <hamedk> minimec: same eroor
[16:24] <xangua> what's the new way to remove a ppa¿ the one without ppa-purge
[16:25] <hamedk> minimec:  mysql-server-5.5 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.32-0ubuntu0.12.04.1) but 5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[16:27] <dynamism> Please? Anyone with experience troubleshooting installs, I need someone to point me in the right direction.
[16:27] <minimec> hamedk: You have an old mysql-server package... Download the right one and 'sudo dpkg -i mysql-server_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_all.deb' in the directory you saved it... mysql-server_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_all.deb
[16:28] <minimec> hamedk: Sorry... http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/mysql-server_5.5.34-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_all.deb
[16:29] <alexbst> hey
[16:30] <alexbst> has anyone seen sabdfl lately ?
[16:30] <minimec> hamedk: I am not even sure, that you can install it with dpkg. Probably you need 'gdebi'
[16:30] <linus> hi
[16:30] <hamedk> and i don't have gdebi minimec
[16:31] <alexbst> hey opers, you are meant to pay attention - have you seen sabdfl ?
[16:31] <hamedk> minimec: never felt so fucked up my entire life
[16:31] <alexbst> I guess some channels grow too big.
[16:31] <alexbst> lol.
[16:32] <alexbst> well, if anyone ever reads their logs, let sabdfl know I called.
[16:32] <alexbst> or scrollback
[16:32] <minimec> hamedk: Did you try to use 'dpkg' to install that package I linked above?
[16:32] <alexbst> I mean, scrollback exists for a reason.
[16:32] <alexbst> or we are all just talking to ourselves.
[16:32] <hamedk> minimec: yes
[16:32] <alexbst> because as soon as we press enter it becomes scrollback.
[16:32] <alexbst> this is the latest in scrollback.
[16:32] <alexbst> am I hitting any nerves ?
[16:32] <alexbst> am I making sense ?
[16:32] <alexbst> we tried not to log irc for a reason.
[16:33] <IdleOne> alexbst: Could you please stop scrolling text for no reason.
[16:33] <alexbst> IdleOne - could you read it and understand what I am saying ?
[16:33] <HiddenDjinn> why would mail servers on the web refuse to speak to a postfix instance?
[16:33] <dannymichel> Anyone a themes expert? I was finally able to use a background image for my panel by editing my theme files, but the panel background get's slightly darker when i hover over it. You really have to pay attention to the panel to see it http://d.pr/v/bDag this guy was able to at least identify what the issue was  http://goo.gl/iflPrA
[16:33] <hamedk> minimec: http://pastebin.com/hWqk0ty8
[16:34] <jhutchins_wk> HiddenDjinn: Lots of reasons.  No reverse DNS, address in a public IP block...
[16:34] <HiddenDjinn> jhutchins_wk, well, it seems that gmail is talking to my instance, but gmx and aol are refusing
[16:34] <HiddenDjinn> gmail is immediately routing mail from my server to spam, if that means anything
[16:35] <jhutchins_wk> HiddenDjinn: That's what it's all about.
[16:35] <minimec> hamedk: 'sudo dpkg --purge mysql-server'
[16:35] <minimec> hamedk: Lets try to purge the package with 'dpkg'
[16:35] <hamedk> minimec: did it!
[16:35] <minimec> hamedk: THat worked?
[16:36] <hamedk> yes
[16:36] <hamedk> no
[16:36] <minimec> hamedk: Sudo apt-get update ...
[16:36] <HiddenDjinn> jhutchins_wk, ok, the self-signed certificate may have something to do with it, using a vps and have dns resolving back to my server
[16:36] <FixUbuntu> alexbst: this is a support channel, not sabdfl's voicemail... if you want to talk to him, i'm sure you can find the most appropriate venute for that. if you want to discuss things about Ubuntu, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:36] <minimec> hamedk: yes/no ?
[16:36] <hamedk> minimec: on update
[16:38] <rawrmonster> I know this is going to sound vague as get out when i say this but I am just looking for a way to track down what is going on. I have a computer and all the components work very well with linux (system 76 computer). I first tried ubuntu 12.04 but when it becomes fully updated the lightdm always crashed, so i switched to ubuntu 13.04 at the time and every thing worked really well. Now that I have upgraded to ubuntu 13.10 (fresh install) i get random cra
[16:39] <hamedk> minimec: the same error
[16:39] <hamedk> minimec: about mysql
[16:39] <minimec> hamedk: Take it easy... We will fix it ;) Follow that post and rename the files and folders in /var/lib/apt --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220&s=4122322b46163862b7973acf6c75921c&p=11958892#post11958892
[16:40] <a1fa> can someone give me a hand with wpa_supplicant.. i am trying to connect to WPA2 and its telling me my psk is wrong
[16:40] <a1fa> but its not
[16:40] <a1fa> WPA-PSK
[16:40] <HiddenDjinn> jhutchins_wk, i think i found something, but clueless where to fix it...postfix still identifies to servers as mail.example.com
[16:41] <TomAstro> hmmm  Maybe this approach will work
[16:41] <TomAstro> Wanted... ex Broadcast Engineer looking for a good Audio Eng or equiv. to help fix HDMI output issue in Ubuntu 13.10 fresh install.
[16:42] <acovrig> I am trying to grab video via firewire, I have symlinked /dev/raw1394 -> /dev/fw0 and /dev/fw0 exists, but dvgrab returns 'Error: invalid source specified' why?
[16:43] <Ari-Yang> TomAstro: you want audio using hdmi?
[16:43] <ajf> How can I alias nodejs to node?
[16:43] <ajf> er, rather, make node an alias of nodejs
[16:43] <hypoclone> hello
[16:44] <sam113101> using bash?
[16:44] <TomAstro> Yes.  I used to hav it in 12.04 and 13.04 but not in 13.10.  here is my info  http://pastebin.com/LSwdbvwt
[16:44] <ajf> using whatever
[16:44] <sam113101> alias node=nodejs
[16:44] <didthatwork> molly, I see the scroll setting in Unity Tweak Tool, but nothing related to window line feeds. Unity 13.10x64 looking to increase the scroll speed in chromium/firefox
[16:44] <Achilles`> Hi there, is anyone aware of a stable (and easy to use of course) binary instrumentation tool for x86 linux?
[16:45] <hypoclone> i need help running postfix on 12.04 server for my organisation please
[16:45] <Ari-Yang> TomAstro: ah, 13.10 is buggy compared to the previous releases :/ tbh I don't know for nvidia, but for radeon you'd need radeon.audio=1 in GRUB
[16:45] <TomAstro> DidThat...  Not 100% sure but check out QT4 config tool
[16:45] <ikant> hello i have a question ... i have lubuntu 13.10 and Evolution Mail but the menu is in english... how i can change the language
[16:46] <solars> hey, I've got a sony multi-flip (touch ultrabook) - can anyone suggest an application to have an on-screen keyboard?
[16:46] <rawrmonster> Or let me rephrase my question is there a way to see why a program crashed?
[16:46] <ikant> i changed in preferences but it didnt work
[16:46] <sam113101> he didn't even say thanks ;_;
[16:47] <xangua> !cookie | sam113101
[16:47] <sam113101> xangua: thanks man
[16:47] <TomAstro> I had a feeling it was a bug.  There are complaints all over the search engines but nothing that is up to date for 13.10   They say 13.04 fixes will work but I have probably made a mess out of my  sound trying every thing posted that I could find
[16:48] <hypoclone> anyone who is ready to help with postfix installation and configuration please?
[16:48] <minimec> solars: There is one installed. Type 'onboard' in the unity dash...
[16:48] <solars> minimec, ahh didn't know that - great
[16:49] <TomAstro> Hmmmm  I wonder if nvidia.audio=1 would work in Grub without blowing it up?
[16:49] <solars> is there also a possibility to somehow rotate the screen automatically?
[16:49] <dannymichel> Anyone a themes expert? I was finally able to use a background image for my panel by editing my theme files, but the panel background get's slightly darker when i hover over it. You really have to pay attention to the panel to see it http://d.pr/v/bDag this guy was able to at least identify what the issue was  http://goo.gl/iflPrA
[16:49] <acovrig> I have tried the -debug all flag for dvgrab, but haven't gotten anything.
[16:49] <TomAstro> Danny  PM me and take a number.  I'll be with you in a short.  Not an expert but maybe I can help you
[16:50] <edm1st> Hi! Can someone help me install plexhometheater under ubuntu saucy? Got dependencies problems with a package named libcec
[16:50] <xangua> pm's don't help this channel :)
[16:50] <HiddenDjinn> how would one fix reverse dns issues?
[16:50] <acovrig> on a side note, is there a decently priced capture method that works w/linux (ffmpeg preferably) that can capture S-video?
[16:51] <didthatwork> Good Morning, I am trying to figure out how to speed up the windows scroll speed in chromium and/or firefox. I installed the Unity Tweak Tool but do not see an option to increase line feeds. Ubuntu 13.10x64 Thank you
[16:51] <TomAstro> Yes you are correct on that but if no one answers someone and they keep C/P the same I would think it would help a bit
[16:51] <xangua> didthatwork: for firefox i remember you had to edit a preference in about:config ; default lines(value) is like 3
[16:51] <HiddenDjinn> jhutchins_wk, it's a ptr issue, aol gave a 421 error in reply
[16:52] <hypoclone> i need help installin and configuring postfix on 12.04 server anyone to help pls?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> didthatwork  look for a relevant keyword in dconf-editor
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> hypoclone  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server
[16:53] <didthatwork> xangua,MonkeyDust Thanks! I will give that a try
[16:53] <hypoclone> ok monkeydust thanks
[16:54] <HiddenDjinn> hypoclone, when i get mine fixed, i'll tell you what worked
[16:54] <solars> is there a way to have ubuntu automatically recognize if my ultrabook screen is rotatet (flipped)?
[16:55] <TomAstro> Ari-Yang... Thanks for the input though.  I'll take a shot at changing that to nvidia.  If it works I will post that up on the forums.
[16:57] <hypoclone> pls how long would that take hiddendjinn?
[16:58] <HiddenDjinn> hypoclone, hours, days, weeks, maybe months or years
[17:00] <glitsj16> linux recognize screen rotation
[17:01] <glitsj16> my bad, pls ignore
[17:01] <Slade-> hmm wonder if i can get nginx/fastcgi and websockets working together
[17:01] <Slade-> well  nginx/fastcgi/php and websockets
[17:02] <adej> so sad not getting any help on installing and configuring postfix
[17:02] <minimec> solars: I guess that would need some hardware sensors I guess. But you could make a launcher with something like this 'xrandr --output LVDS1 --rotate inverted' That would rotate the desktop upside down. 'normal' would bring the default rotation back.
[17:03] <Slade-> ah looks like its not integrated into the server
[17:03] <minimec> solars: LVDS1 may be different with your device. Check 'xrandr' for the available devices.
[17:04] <adej> does anyone care to help installing and configuring postfix on 12.04 can anyone help please
[17:04] <ikonia> adej: what's not clear ?
[17:05] <johndude> what is my best option to upload a zip file to a remote pc where i have ftp&shell access and unzip it there?
[17:07] <minimec> johndude: 'scp' secure copy, then login via ssh and unzip... I guess I would do that.
[17:08] <siwica> When I connect my laptop to an additional screen and turn it on in the display settings I get the following error: "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files". Any ideas on how to make it working?
[17:09] <solars> minimec: thanks a lot, I think I'll bind it to a key, yeah
[17:09] <johndude> minimec>> any sample codes on that you know?
[17:09] <solars> minimec, ok one more thing I noticed, right now if I use the touch display, it doesn't recognize scrolling/swiping of course - is it possible to configure this somehow?
[17:10] <minimec> solars: You could even do a script with if.. else... Then touching the launcher would alwys perform the action you want. LIke if 'inverted', then set 'normal', otherwise set 'inverted'
[17:11] <Whop> hi guys, I noticed a text-to-speech application starts up when I get at my login screen. It's very loud and obnoxious.. Any idea how I can disable it?
[17:11] <minimec> solars: http://www.dreamsyssoft.com/unix-shell-scripting/ifelse-tutorial.php
[17:11] <ielo> hey after updating my internal mic. no longer works, i've tried traditional fixes but none of them are working
[17:11] <minimec> solars: Something loke that...
[17:12] <solars> minimec, yeah the script is no problem I'll just write a toggle
[17:12] <solars> minimec: but do you know about the scrolling problem?
[17:14] <minimec> solars: No idea about that 'scrolling' problem.
[17:14] <solars> alright, thanks :)
[17:15] <minimec> solars: no problem.
[17:16] <Shinobi> Can I override fdisk, where I have to start at sector 2048?
[17:16] <ikonia> you can start where you want
[17:16] <Shinobi> ikonia: It won't let me choose sector 1
[17:17] <Whop> hi guys, I noticed a text-to-speech application starts up when I get at my login screen. It's very loud and obnoxious.. Any idea how I can disable it?
[17:17] <ikonia> Shinobi: why ?
[17:18] <FixUbuntu> Whop: i don't, but conceivably that's accessibility-related, so look at your accessibility settings
[17:19] <Whop> FixUbuntu: I tried looking at Universal Access.. But I haven't found the culprit yet. Are there other places to look?
[17:20] <FixUbuntu> Whop, sorry, i don't really know. i use Kubuntu only. i just thought maybe "accessibility" could be a useful hint
[17:20] <ct529> hi everybody!
[17:20] <Whop> FixUbuntu: All right, thanks for the help anyway. I'll have a loko under startup applications and see if I can find it. :)
[17:21] <FixUbuntu> Whop: uhm, not sure because i think those are run *after* you're past the login screen
[17:21] <HiddenDjinn> question, when setting ptr record, do you set the host or the fqdn?
[17:21] <Whop> FixUbuntu : Yeah, I think you're right. Nothing showed up. So I'll just post to the ubuntu forums and cross my fingers :)
[17:22] <ct529> I formatted a disk using GPT for installing Ubuntu. Once I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, I left one 80GB partition for emergencies. Now, I need to intall MS Windows 7 for a short while to run a model, and when I try to install it in the 80GB partition it says that I cannot install MS Windows on a GPT disk .... do I have to reformat everything and loose my installtion or is there an alternative? Anyone who did something similar?
[17:23] <Shinobi> ikonia: I have an old partition starting on block 1, and I need to fix that partition table.
[17:23] <Shinobi> Any way to manually adjust the partition table?
[17:24] <XLV> Shinobi fdisk, parted etc
[17:26] <Shinobi> XLV: I can't start a partition a sector 1, is there an option for this?
[17:27] <Shinobi> I don't recall this being an issue before
[17:29] <zykotick9> Shinobi: does it want to start at 2048?  if so, that's "normal" (though, SOME of my drives do start at 1).
[17:30] <Shinobi> zykotick9: It's an old drive with an old partition setup. The first part is starts on block 1. I have to reset the part table, but fdisk is forcing a start on 2048. I'm checking out parted now.
[17:31] <zykotick9> Shinobi: fyi, fdisk is the WORST choice for partitioning (at least according to "man fdisk")
[17:34] <ct529> Shinobi: you cna use gdisk, it is pretty good
[17:34] <sips> hello all.. :-)
[17:39] <lachitha> hi, im using ubuntu 13.10, in my network manger, mobile broadband devices detected. bt cannot connect to Internet. hence i have to use like sakis3g software. can you help me to solve this
[17:40] <whoever> hi all, i need some help, is there a way to get flash to stay full screen on a dual monitor display when the monitor does not have focus, i have trid to exit with ghex edit, it worked befor for a few days but since package update quite working, have tried the flash maximize plugin but  is not the esiest way to get out of full screen when the flash player has been maximized . I am on 12.04. can someon assist
[17:40] <nvs> how can i uninstall programs in ubuntu?
[17:40] <nvs> where is the control panel?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: use software-center
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: why would you need control panel?
[17:41] <whoever> nvs: the left size that big thingg down the side , look for software center
[17:42] <whoever> nvs: the icon looks like a shopping bag
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: what browser are you using?
[17:42] <whoever> ActionParsnip: ff
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: is it the same in Chrome?
[17:42] <whoever> nvs: did that solve it for you
[17:43] <michael_87> ok I ran into a minor announce. I can't get autocorrect to work in libre office. please helpt
[17:43] <nvs> yes thanks im looking there
[17:43] <whoever> ActionParsnip: no crome doesn't use the _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOw arg
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: or search in Dash. I assume you are using Unitt shell
[17:43] <michael_87> annoyance
[17:43] <nvs> yes
[17:43] <nvs> i find unity very good
[17:43] <nvs> i dont know why so people say that this is crap
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: i see
[17:43] <nvs> its like windows
[17:44] <ielo> hi, after messing around with the balance and such my mic does work with skype call testing service but not any other application/browser
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: no single solution suits all. Its part of the human condition
[17:44] <whoever> nvs: you mean win-bloz :-)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: i find running a desktop environment a waste and use only OpenBox as standalone window manager
[17:45] <nvs> never heard of it
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  you're a geek
[17:46] <nvs> lol
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: i like stability
[17:46] <nvs> i see some cool picts of it thought
[17:46] <michael_87> nvs, unity is very different from windows. there is a hell alot more customization then windows and the unity tool bar is amazing. and the window snap in unity is epic. real downer is its a pain to get pc games that was made specificly for windows to run as well on it. so I dualbooted. still though. windows 7 was probably the only good os microsoft ever made
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: do some research on it. Youll see :-)
[17:46] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i think he's new to the whol !m$ experience
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Michael_87: i hate that snap windows thing in any OS. Drives me nuts
[17:47] <nvs> why use this minimalistic thing instead of ubuntu?
[17:47] <michael_87> ActionParsnip, to each there own. but damn hot corners come in handy on ubuntu XD
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: because it doesnt use Compiz which I find completely intollerable and crashes and does all kinds of stupid stuff. OpenBox and FluBox development is much more active and i have fewer issues
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its still Ubuntu
[17:49] <nvs> like ubuntu without crashes? ubuntu tends to work well until it goes to hell and you have to reinstall everything. at least thats my eperience
[17:49] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i gotta question FB's "active" development status ;)
[17:50] <lachitha> my mobile broadband not working in ubuntu 13.10
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: https://db.tt/wv3FcIag fun
[17:50] <michael_87> anyone know how to activate libreoffices autocorrect. pain in the ass
[17:51] <nvs> it has some cool skins
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: if you run: lsusb ,use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[17:51] <whoever> nvs: it is still ubuntu, and linux , the only difference is that withe linux and unix you can change the DE or WM  and it is still linux , you just changing how your desktop looks
[17:52] <nvs> so its an ubuntu program?
[17:52] <ct529> I need help install Windows 7 alongside Ubuntu 13.10 pereinstalled. I formatted a disk using GPT for installing Ubuntu. Once I installed Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit, I left one 80GB partition for emergencies. Now, I need to intall MS Windows 7 for a short while to run a model, and when I try to install it in the 80GB partition it says that I cannot install MS Windows on a GPT disk .... do I have to reformat everything and loose my installtion or
[17:52] <ct529>  is there an alternative? Anyone who did something similar?
[17:52] <lachitha> ActionParsnip, actually friend network manger was detecting my usb dongle, bt can't connect with that
[17:53] <whoever> nvs: no , it is linux, here is what you are failing to see
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Zykotick9: fluxbox 3.5.1 was released in Feb 2013 :-)
[17:53] <grex25> Is there any one-liner for installing .deb files from a known url? (no .deb file afterwards)
[17:53] <nvs> so its a  linux os
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its a window manager, you will probably be using (crappy) compiz for all the eye candy and wobby windows
[17:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: hummmm, my bad then ;)  i didn't think they'd updated in a LONG time, i was wrong.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: its not a separate OS.
[17:54] <whoever> nvs: ubuntu, kubuntu, archlinux , gentoo , etc... are all linux distros and they all can use the same software , just the only difference you may see is the extention of the file
[17:54] <nvs> so i can put this on my ubuntu? and make it look pretty like that?
[17:54] <nvs> ive found some fantastic skins on that
[17:54] <AlexLibman> I have a laptop with a broken left pointer button that keeps clickin* by itself.  I've been tryin* to fi*ure out a way to map the caps lock to the left mouse button and disable the real mouse button.
[17:55] <therazr> nvs: You can get many ideas from customization on the Internet, there are plenty of artwork pages :)
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if you want, sure
[17:55] <lachitha> ActionParsnip, can you do something for my problem
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> nvs  on what did ubuntu crash?
[17:56] <AlexLibman> Found lots of confusin* instructions via *oo*le, which accomplished nothin* except make a letter on my keyboard not work, which I replace with a star in this conversation...
[17:56] <whoever> nvs: depending what skins you have you may have a problem when you do an upgrade as to wheathr the skin still works without repeating previouse steps you did to get it working in the first place
[17:56] <nvs> mostly after installing lenses
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> oh, lenses..
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: all i suggest is use the 8 charcter id. You'll find guides
[17:56] <nvs> then graphic card issues with my ati 4something
[17:57] <nvs> mostly lenses to be honest
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> nvs  i guess lenses are the most hated part of ubuntu
[17:57] <nvs> theyre god damn usefull
[17:57] <geirha> grex25: dpkg -i <(curl -s http://....deb)  might work
[17:57] <nvs> very clever idea if only it worked and they made lenses on everything
[17:58] <grex25> geirha: I will try, ty
[17:58] <geirha> grex25: Ah no, I tested it, it apparently needs to seek in the file, so you really need a file on disk
[17:59] <grex25> any chance with  dpkg - i  | wget .... ?
[17:59] <geirha> grex25: No, a pipe is not seekable either
[17:59] <XLV> Shinobi uefi motherboard?
[18:00] <XLV> Shinobi uefi needs a small partition in the start of hdd for its needs
[18:00] <geirha> grex25: If you download it to /tmp, you don't have to worry about removing it afterwards, since /tmp gets wiped during boot anyway
[18:00] <grex25> geirha: then the long  3 line way =)
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Nvs if you have a radeon 4xxx gpu you will need the legacy ppa for the driver
[18:00] <funch> how can i grep->> grep "string from file for search" filename, dont have graphics nor copypaste
[18:01] <grex25> geirha: yep, so 2
[18:01] <geirha> grex25: Well, you can have more than one command on a line
[18:01] <grex25> geirha: wget a.deb; dpkg -i a.deb
[18:02] <lachitha> cannot connect with mobile broad band
[18:03] <grex25> geirha: does writing/reading fromto /tmp need root?
[18:03] <geirha> grex25: no
[18:03] <geirha> grex25: or write a custom command. E.g.  install() { local dir=$(mktemp -d); wget -O "$dir/f.deb" "$1" && sudo dpkg -i "$dir/f.deb"; rm -rf "$dir"; };
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: did you try my suggestion?
[18:04] <lachitha> im new to ubuntu. can u clearly mention that
[18:05] <therazr> lachitha: When you plug your MB pen it should pop in the network applet, in order to configure it
[18:05] <geirha> grex25: then  install http://url/foo.deb    though install is probably not the best name, since there's a common command named install already, but maybe dpkgi
[18:06] <grex25> geirha: callling  dpkgi(http://abcd/a.deb) ?
[18:06] <OerHeks> lachitha, " network manger was detecting my usb dongle, bt can't connect with that"  > backtrack ?
[18:06] <TomAstro> Ok folks,  I have been in the ALSA irc and the PulseAudio irc and apparently they point the finger at each other when it comes down to this HDMI issue having no output or not being listed in either audio package.  My audio worked fine until I did a clean install of Ubuntu 13.10 and now there are issues with no HDMI out.  To me one or the other or both audio packages are not working with 13.10.  So where does the end user go from
[18:06] <TomAstro>  here????
[18:06] <geirha> grex25: No, a function in bash defines a new command, so you "call" it just like you run other commands.  cmdname arg1 arg2 ...
[18:06] <Bauer1> my ubuntu 13.10 is not mounting my Android phone... Windows does mount it, how can I diagnose why?
[18:07] <dox> I am getting the error "unable to locate package Apache2" on 11.04- does a apt-get update resolve this?
[18:08] <OerHeks> dox 11.04 is EOL you might want to upgrade to a supported version
[18:08] <dox> yeah, FOG works better on 11.04 apparently
[18:08] <theadmin> dox: 11.04 is no longer supported. The repositories have been taken down by now, you won't be able to use APT.
[18:08] <dox> ill give it a whirl on 13 anyways
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Lachitha: if you run 'lsusb' in a terminal you will see an 8 character hex ID. Use it to find guides. Like I said when you first asked, so I know you didnt follow advice given
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:11] <TomAstro> Hi Action,  Haven tried that yet hang on.  Thanks for replying
[18:11] <nvs> everything is in its olderst version in the software center
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Bauer1: if you instal openssh-server you can use andftp and transfer files using sftp over wifi easily :-)
[18:11] <nvs> how can i easily get the newest versions of programs?
[18:11] <whoever> ActionParsnip: i am still having the same problem in chome
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: why do you need newer versions? What packages are 'old'?
[18:12] <nvs> eclipse, netbeans, ajunta
[18:12] <nvs> why do i need the older versions and not the newer ones?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: what are in the newer versions that you need so badly?
[18:12] <whoever> ActionParsnip: if  i make the video full screen , then navigate away from the video the video will go back to the default size
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: Ubuntu is stable. They don't update packages to the latest versions just because they are there, they use versions which are tested and work well with this specific version of Ubuntu. You can look for PPAs if you wish.
[18:13] <whoever> ActionParsnip: and i am using the chrome flash extention
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: could try minitube as a workaround
[18:13] <nvs> so the safest place to get things is the software center?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: yes
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: But those are not officially supported, may break your system or just not work
[18:13] <theadmin> nvs: Certainly, the software in the Centre is tested by Ubuntu developers after all
[18:13] <whoever> nvs: the newest is bleeding edge and may or maynot have bugs
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: what is in the newer versions of those applications that you need so badly?
[18:13] <nvs> so maybe thats the reason i had so many crashes in the past
[18:14] <nvs> along with some untested lenses maybe
[18:14] <whoever> ActionParsnip: is that an ext or a www
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: its a standalone youtube player, doesnt need flash :-)
[18:14] <TomAstro> That's a new one for me.  Well it apparently uploaded info to Alsa
[18:14] <TomAstro> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ecbcde4ed5874b18b8c18ea54d85ce7033287134
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: would you kindly answer my simple question.
[18:15] <whoever> ActionParsnip: thx
[18:15] <whoever> will give it a shot
[18:15] <nvs> ActionParsnip, why would you want the older version of everything?
[18:15] <nvs> if you could have something old and something new what would you choose?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: because its tried and tested and works and is solid
[18:15] <nvs> of course because it may contain new features and solve older problems of the program
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: i se you are one of those "newer is better" fools
[18:16] <FixUbuntu> nvs: also, new bugs and regressions
[18:16] <whoever> ActionParsnip: may i pm you ?
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but for your needs, the newer version may not offer you anything at all
[18:16] <minimec> nvs: Replace 'old and 'new' with 'windows 7' and 'windows 8'. What would you choose ;)
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Whoever: sure
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but all you see is a version number which is a bogus policy
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if the version you have does what you need, why fix it?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: makes no sense
[18:17] <nvs> because i dont have it on the first place
[18:17] <nvs> and you dont make sense
[18:17] <TomAstro> Action Here is a paste bin of the info also
[18:17] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[18:17] <nvs> afterall you should stick with an old os that is the safest of all
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: then try testing it, then see if the version is too old.
[18:17] <nvs> with such a logic
[18:18] <nvs> software is meant to be constantly updated, renew etc
[18:18] <Bauer1> ActionParsnip: lol, that is a fast workaround, thanks :) installing...
[18:18] <nvs> why stick with the old ones?
[18:18] <yeyeman> unity panel stopped working, what should I do?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: it makes absolute sense. The version from a year ago does exactly what I need but there is a 'new' version so I MUST upgrade. Is that how you think?
[18:19] <TomAstro> NVS   imo   If it ain't brok don't fixit...   lol
[18:19] <nvs> of course not
[18:19] <nvs> you check if it has features that you like
[18:19] <nvs> or its a useless one like the new ubuntu 13.10 that contain no new cool features
[18:19] <nvs> and eye candy
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: but you just said the versions are old, which may be true, but what Im saying is the version may do exactly what you need, thus mooting the version number
[18:20] <nvs> yeah sure thing
[18:20] <nvs> but if you dont upgrade youre missing the fun of it and the progress that goes with it
[18:21] <nvs> all updates are there for a reason
[18:21] <whoever> nvs: the feature are more of seamless integrateion betwween tablet/desctop/notbook , but your right there are no features that you will notice
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: so 'old' is irelevant, so critisizing it is dumb without testing.
[18:21] <therazr> ActionParsnip: On the other hand, there shouldn't be anything wrong with using latest versions of most daily use software imho
[18:21] <whoever> ActionParsnip: you have been pm'd
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: the updates may nit affect you
[18:22] <nvs> you can choose i agree with what you said that you could check the feautres, but not to stick with the old stuff
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: if it works, why employ effort to fix what isnt broken
[18:22] <zykotick9> therazr: perhaps you unfamiliar with dependencies...
[18:22] <nvs> and sometimes updates may not contain eye candy but contain system stability improvements
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> therazr  not quite... did you see !latest factoid?
[18:22] <zykotick9> !latest
[18:22] <nvs> and thats even better
[18:22] <OerHeks> nvs build packages yourself if you really want the latest, and do the debugging too.
[18:22] <DrDittersdorf> Hi. How can I create a Desktop launcher that will open terminal and immediately run another program ?
[18:23] <DrDittersdorf> (in unity)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: excessive eyecandy is distracting and imposes higher systen requirements.
[18:23] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: gnome-terminal -e 'command'
[18:23] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: ...is the command. Create the launcher as usual.
[18:23] <nvs> sure thing but as i said. software is to be constantly updated
[18:23] <nvs> its never good enough
[18:23] <therazr> MonkeyDust zykotick9 Actually I wasn't opposing to the use of PPAs, as for the main, official repos, they are good as they are now imho
[18:23] <nvs> its never stable enough, never clever enough, never pretty enough
[18:24] <DrDittersdorf> theadmin: thanks. I don't have create launcher on right click ...
[18:24] <DrDittersdorf> It's Unity
[18:24] <whoever> nvs:  i think your are too new to the linux experience to be makeing some of the statements that you are, but  at least your learning
[18:24] <TomAstro> Action:  still reading my info here.  That is a pretty helpful script.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: it is updated, but packages with significant issues and gains will be attended more than redundant eye candy and simply because a new version is out
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> therazr  yes, but ppas's can from anyone anywhere, without being screened or controlled
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> can come*
[18:25] <DrDittersdorf> theadmin: what i'm asking is actually how to create a launcher... I know in gnome it's easy
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Nvs: ubuntu packaging doesnt work like that
[18:25] <theadmin> DrDittersdorf: Well, you can create a .desktop files as follows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389499/
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> nothing like a projection to really lead to disappointment
[18:26] <therazr> MonkeyDust: I know that, but I try to stay to "trusted" PPAs, from known devs or like that. And if I need a newer version of a software, I don't see why wouldn't I use them
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: if you copy one of the files in ~/.configure/autostart and edit it, you can make one as you desire
[18:26] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: Good idea. will try that
[18:27] <Jigawatts> there is an auto start gui in ubuntu I think
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: put it in /usr/share/applications it will appear in Dash
[18:27] <DrDittersdorf> nice. thanks
[18:28] <pakiboy^> \identify qais81
[18:28] <NuSuey> anyone got an idea how to fuix my hdmi audio? every 12 sec i hear a high pitched noise :o
[18:28] <wjtaylor> is the parition table stored on block 0?
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:30] <Bauer1> Guys, what about the problem in 13.10 with language switching? I still cant switch with left Alt-Shift, unless I switch using the icon with the mouse, at least once...
[18:31] <theadmin> Bauer1: Yeah, is a bug.
[18:31] <theadmin> Bauer1: Known issue, made me downgrade to 12.04 because it's annoying.
[18:31] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: thank for the good idea. it's just perfect
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Drdittersdorf: you can now configure systems in that way via SSH too :-)
[18:32] <Bauer1> theadmin: wow, its KNOWN, and not considered high priority at all?
[18:32] <theadmin> Bauer1: But you can probably use a third-party layout switching tool, like gxneur
[18:32] <DrDittersdorf> ActionParsnip: LOL got it
[18:32] <iori> #join zlatana zeubi
[18:33] <theadmin> Bauer1: (is in the repos, saying "third-party" because it's not part of Ubuntu eh)
[18:33] <Repox> Hello. Is it possible to get a list of all services that starts on boot?
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> Bauer1  find the package name, then contact the maintainer
[18:34] <TomAstro> Action:  anything make sense in that upload of information?
[18:35] <io______> hi I am trying to set up a clickpad with synclient but although i do any configuration the clickpad behavior does not change, is there anything that may be overriding my config?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: if you run: alsamixer ,are all levels maxed and unmuted?
[18:35] <theadmin> Bauer1: Well, *some* progress is there, earlier Alt+Shift wouldn't work at all
[18:35] <TomAstro> Yep
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: use F6 to select the right device for output, do the same in the sound app in Dash
[18:36] <TomAstro> RePOX.  Check this out for your services
[18:36] <juken> Hi All, I have an installation of Ubuntu server 13.04 running remotely in a datacenter with no KVM or anything attached to it. I'd like to do a fresh install of Ubuntu desktop 13.10. Is there a way I can do it remotely?
[18:36] <TomAstro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57909/how-do-you-get-a-list-of-all-starting-services
  ----->>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/57909/how-do-you-get-a-list-of-all-starting-services
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Juken: you can upgrade to 13.10 online then install a DE if you like
[18:37] <Bauer1> theadmin: well, but I have no idea how to find the correct package name responsible for the broken functionality...
[18:37] <juken> ActionParsnip: I'd like to go with a fresh install, this guy has 7 or 8 GPUs in it and I'd like to start fresh to get the drivers and everything working correctly.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> NuSuey: its a simple terminal command
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Juken: then you will need a smarthands to get the disk put in and such
[18:38] <NuSuey> Action ..give me a minute.. need to reboot
[18:39] <juken> ActionParsnip: I'm guessing you mean a person onsite :)
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Juken: yes
[18:39] <juken> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks
  Have you seen this?  ------>http://askubuntu.com/questions/203301/how-to-safely-upgrade-from-an-older-ubuntu-version-to-a-newer-one
[18:40] <hamedk> minimec:are you still there?
[18:40] <TomAstro> But it would be best to have someone on site there to do this.
[18:40] <hamedk> !seen minimec
[18:40] <hamedk> ubottu: have a seen command u bad boy
[18:40] <minimec> hamedk: yup
[18:42] <hamedk> minimec: i just got home. how can i disable 3rd party repositories, it says dl.google..... has some problems in apt-get update
[18:42] <TomAstro> Ok Action  I almost missed the last post to me  I'll that again and see what happens
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: use F6 to set the output device in alsamixer
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: also do the same in sound application in Dash
[18:44] <minimec> hamedk: check for Software & Sources in the dash. Other way is to remove the file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d or the line in /etc/apt/sources.list. Similar as before with medibuntu...
[18:44] <jhutchins_wk> Bauer1: It's starting to look like releasing 13.10 on schedule came at the expense of several problems not being fixed yet.
[18:44] <minimec> hamedk: Were you able to solve the 'mysql-server' problem.
[18:44] <hamedk> minimec: no
[18:45] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[18:45] <minimec> hamedk: Ok. Let's fix that one too.
[18:46] <hamedk> where to start buddy?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[18:47] <minimec> hamedk: First remove the repo that gives you errors. then 'sudo apt-get update'.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: wait 10 seconds and reboot
[18:47] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: did that help you somehow? :o no clue how to fix the issue..
[18:47] <NuSuey> (lag)
[18:47] <NuSuey> ok going to reboot
 Just as I figured.  Still no HDMI selection anymore in Sound as it was in earlier versions.  I tried F6 again just to see if it would stick, but all I have in sound Output is Digital Output (S/PDIF) - Built-in Audio  and  Analog Output - Built-in Audio; and Input Just the USB Mic and My AverTV card.
[18:49] <TomAstro> I have tried all the options undr F6 and no change to sound
[18:49] <TomAstro> Well at least HDMI showing back up
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: try under sound app in dash
[18:49] <TomAstro> Yep and no HDMI options
[18:50] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: still got the issue :o every ~ 12 sec..
[18:50] <therazr> TomAstro: what's your graphics card?
[18:51] <TomAstro> Built in GeForce 7050 PV/nForce 630a.  It is what I have had all along.
[18:52] <TomAstro> What still baffles me is that all the versions before including Susse worked fine.
[18:53] <therazr> TomAstro: So now you don't have HDMI audio output from your card?
[18:53] <hamedk> mininec: how to fix this: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[18:54] <hamedk> i'm so stupid duplicate lines in source.list, yep?
[18:55] <TomAstro> This system had a custom version of Susse on it but they do not support the product anymoe so I went to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I was good until I decided to try a fresh install of 13.10.  Guess I should have followed my own advice.  If it is not brok don't fix it.
[18:55] <TomAstro> No rAZR
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Hamedk: comment the partner repo out in /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Hamedk: sounds like you have a list file already defining it
[18:56] <TomAstro> Apparently 13.10 does not like this hardware
[18:56] <minimec> hamedk: the same way. 'software & sources' or in the file /etc/apt/sources.list. Put a '#' in front of the lines you DON'T want to use. MY /etc/apt/sources.list file would look like that... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389655/
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Tomastro: Precise is also LTS so suported long after Saucy is EOL
[18:57] <therazr> TomAstro: These hardware issues mostly get fixed by kernel updates throughout the cycle of the release
[18:57] <cometsan> TomAstro, what is the exact hw problem?
[18:58] <minimec> hamedk: Also I see, that you did not clean the /var/lib/apt folder, like I mentioned before...
[18:58] <TomAstro> What has changed from all the older versions to 13.10 that broke the audio which was quite fragile in the first place?
[18:58] <therazr> ActionParsnip: Normal releases are there for being used. We shouldn't use LTSs as excuses for bugs that exist in the other ones
[18:58] <hamedk> minimec: how do you see that????
[18:59] <minimec> hamedk: Magic ;)
[18:59] <minimec> hamedk: 17:39       minimec : hamedk: Take it easy... We will fix it ;) Follow that post and rename the files and folders in /var/lib/apt -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1983220&s=4122322b46163862b7973acf6c75921c&p=11958892#post11958892
[18:59] <TomAstro> I can see many HDMI Output issues just building up in the forums since this release.
[18:59] <Ubuntivity> Hello
[19:00] <cometsan> TomAstro, is the audio builtin to the motherboard?
[19:00] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: are you still here? :)
[19:00] <hamedk> minimec: your magic sucks this time :P i really did this :D
[19:01] <hamedk> minimec: update without any error finally!
[19:01] <Ubuntivity> I have an old problem with my Atheros AR9285 on my Ubuntu 12.04, the problem is that I should be within 3 meters range from the router in order to be able to connect wifi.
  In Short,  I did a fresh install of Ubuntu 13.10 after running 12.04,  No upgrade, A clean drive and install. And No more HDMI or Digital Surround 5.1 and up  output anymore.   I have been at this since the Thursday release of 13.10
[19:01] <minimec> hamedk: magic! ;)
[19:01] <Ubuntivity> Here is a detailed forum post about my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2134419.html
[19:01] <hamedk> minimec: just executed the install -f , still mysql-server sucks
[19:02] <TomAstro> And yes the audio is on the board.
[19:02] <cometsan> TomAstro, is the audio chipset builtin or replacable?
[19:02] <minimec> hamedk: so you did "sudo apt-get -f install"
[19:02] <TomAstro> Never had issues though
[19:02] <cometsan> ok
[19:02] <hamedk> minimec: so you can lower my degree of stupidity !
[19:02] <hamedk> yes i did it
[19:03] <minimec> hamedk: I do not consider you as stupid. Why should I?
[19:03] <wjtaylor> I dd a MBR on my drive and copied what fdisk showed as the parition table. I'm trying to restore this in a vm, but when I dd the MBR to the VM drive the fdisk output doesn't match the fdisk output of the source. Anyone know why this would be?
[19:03] <NuSuey> So.. anyone know how can I solve my issue with the HDMI audio doing some high pitched noise every ~  10 - 12 sec?
[19:03] <cometsan> TomAstro, do you have any options to add on another sound card?
[19:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> I've asked this here before, but it wouldn't hurt to have a second opinion. I have a HP ENVY dv6 Notebook PC with windows 8. Last time I tried turning secure mode off and dual booting ubuntu, the secured mode being off (as least the best buy rep told me that tends to cause issues) after a time, glitched my windows 8 partition.
[19:03] <hamedk> minimec: cause i lost my file over libreoffice and when I wanted to install foremost for trying to get it recovered faced with this error!
[19:03] <patx> hello i have connected my iphone via bluetooth to my computer in order to play music through my computers speakers. it is connected but when i play music through the phone no sound comes through. in the sound setting for input i have slected my iphone however and the input level shows sound but nothing is heard. i know my speakers are working however because i can play pandora on my computer. can anybody tell me how to get my phone audible thr
[19:03] <patx> ough the computers speakers?
[19:03] <NuSuey> would love eternally .. anyone who would help me fix it
[19:03] <NuSuey> :p
[19:04] <minimec> hamedk: Can you install other software, or does apt prevent you to install. Try sudo 'apt-get install gdebi'
[19:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> Think old-style NES glitches, that's sort of what it looked like. I couldn't load into windows. Is there a way I can dual boot without turning secured mode off?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, Why the dd on a mbr they are easy to load for a boot?
[19:04] <TomAstro> I have one pci and one pci e .
[19:04] <hamedk> minimec: no it doesn't let me do anything with apt-get
[19:05] <cometsan> TomAstro, at least thats two ways to solve the problem
[19:05] <TomAstro> Not looking to replace hardware due to something that changed with the software.  I'll just pull all my work and go back to 12.04  before i do that.
[19:06] <AssociateX> Happy Birthday everyone!
[19:06] <TomAstro> With all the pastebin info I posted I would think that a Dev would have picked up on this by now.  The posts are mounting all over the forums on this HDMI issue.
[19:07] <minimec> hamedk: Now I know, that you probably have to move/delete a file, but I have to remember which one... Let me think a moment.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, have you been using the fast boot with ubuntu dualbooted?
[19:07] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: wasn't sure i could put a linux mbr on a windows drive...
[19:07] <cometsan> TomAstro, what does your dmesg say about the audio? That might be useful for deciding if it's a kernel issue or an alsa issue
[19:08] <ThinkT510> wjtaylor: harddrives are OS agnostic
[19:08] <AssociateX> I had a Ubuntu update, then after Mozilla would no longer play flash (youtube, vimeo, etc.) I have a very old AGP video card that only uses an old version of libflashplayer.so, which I keep down graded. Where could I look to unblock flash?
[19:08] <AssociateX> Thank you.
[19:09] <AssociateX> Nvidia, btw
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, This a msdos ntfs not a uefi gpt ntfs?
[19:09] <AssociateX> fx5200
[19:09] <minimec> hamedk: ok. 'sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-old', then sudo apt-get update again...
[19:09] <TomAstro> Hang on Comestan,  Let me post the Links
[19:09] <TomAstro> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ecbcde4ed5874b18b8c18ea54d85ce7033287134
[19:10] <wjtaylor> ThinkT510: Kind of dos mbr is different than what I use today.. it may be the same at some deeper level that I don't know
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, If it is just a windows OS you would use its mbr loaded with its recovery or install disc if it using the mbr.
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: your CPU may not support the features needed for new flash
[19:10] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[19:10] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: It's a Win2k NTFS part
[19:10] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, it was working last night.
[19:10] <TomAstro> All the system info is listed in the two links.  Pastebin being the shorter of the two URLS
[19:10] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: The real issue is that I have a dd rip that I cannot mount
[19:11] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, or did something change in the last 15 hours?
[19:11] <wjtaylor> I thought it was a dd of a part, but I can't mount it directly or as a drive.
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: solved!!!!!!!
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: FUCKING SOLVED
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> wjtaylor, Not sure with that early of a windows release.
[19:11] <hamedk> minimec: actually i didn't do the last thing you said!
[19:11] <TomAstro> Well That is one Happy Camper with a Solved issue.  Congrats Hamedk
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: what is the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:12] <minimec> hamedk: Now never mess with you sources again... ;) Only use 'software & sources' ;)
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> !language | hamedk
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: please use a pastebin to host
[19:12] <hamedk> wilee-nilee: sure
[19:12] <wjtaylor> wilee-nilee: now I feel old... :)
[19:12] <hamedk> TomAstro: thanks!
[19:12] <TomAstro> Maybe a bit overly happy though...   lol
[19:13] <hamedk> minimec: i purged mysql-server + mysql-server-5.5
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> hamedk, Glad your happy, however this is a worldwide channel covering multi cultural ethnic and  gender groups
[19:13] <NuSuey> well.. ActionParsnip tried even to use another sampling frequency.. didnt help too :/
[19:13] <wjtaylor> Is there a flag or some sort of marker that would show the beginning of a partition? Something I could look for with a hex editor?
[19:13] <minimec> hamedk: Ok. If you install mysql-server again now, it will use the correct package...
 GuybrushThreepwo, have you been using the fast boot with ubuntu dualbooted? <- I'm not sure, I just know that last time I tried to dual boot, it wouldn't work unless secure boot was off
[19:14] <hamedk> minimec: now I can get back to my real problem!
[19:14] <GuybrushThreepwo> I'm not sure about fast boot, maybe i turned that off too
[19:14] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ca/2475051
[19:14] <cometsan> TomAstro, oh you've got the nforce sound on a MSI board? I've got one of those too. That's why I added a pci sound card, because it didn't work too well with anything
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Nusuey: thats all i know. My sound troubleshooting ability is basic
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, Mainly you have to shut down each OS to boot the other, no hibernate in either.
[19:15] <TomAstro> Hamedk  Just a small suggestion,  Read up on the workings of MySQL and even install a Sql manager to look at what makes it tick.  I say LOOK Only....  But this way you will learn how it works
[19:16] <Ubuntivity> Guys, I have a problem with my Atheros AR9285 on 12.04, here is the problem details: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2134419.html
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> GuybrushThreepwo, No hibernate unless you go back to the OS hibernating anyway.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: uninstall flashplugin-installer then enable the partner repo and install adobe-flashplugin
[19:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> wilee-nilee, the issue is that it didn't detect ubuntu while secure boot was on
[19:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> And after I turned it off, after a month or 2, windows 8 stopped working
[19:17] <NuSuey> ActionParsnip: ah :( too bad.. it's the only thing that I need to go to windows to do.. wanna watch a movie? cannot.. the high pitched sound every 10 secs .. is really a bad bad thing :o
[19:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> best buy rep thought that might be why, and i had to recover using recovery partition
   It worked here since I bought this system as a TV / Satellite receiver package called a Captiveworks 3000/4000.  It only does not work with 13.10
[19:17] <patx> hello i have connected my iphone via bluetooth to my computer in order to play music through my computers speakers. it is connected but when i play music through the phone no sound comes through. in the sound setting for input i have slected my iphone however and the input level shows sound but nothing is heard. i know my speakers are working however because i can play pandora on my computer. can anybody tell me how to get my phone audible thr
[19:17] <patx> ough the computers speakers?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Ubuntivity: check wlan0 is your wireless device name
[19:17] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, I have to manually install flash 10_2r152_26, that's the last one that will work with my card.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: you can use minitube as it doesnt use flash
[19:18] <TomAstro> I know I can just dump 13.10 but after all the tweaking that I did to they system  I hate to have to do it all over again.
[19:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> basically i want to know how i can prevent that from happening again because i need both OS
[19:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> does secureboot have to be off?
[19:18] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, but then I wont be about to watch flash on the other sites that use it. I'm going to see what might be installed that I wasn't aware of. Thank you for the help.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: try chrome as well
[19:19] <cometsan> TomAstro, actually I'd guess maybe you were lucky when it worked in 12. I had a really bad time with the nforce onboard sound. And the onboard ethernet too.
[19:19] <TomAstro> It is probably one line of code that is trashing the HDMI in 13.10
[19:19] <Jordan_U> GuybrushThreepwo: Ubuntu does *not* require secure boot to be off.
[19:20] <Ubuntivity> ActionParsnip: it IS wlan0
[19:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> jordan, but EFI or whatever doesn't detect it or something
[19:20] <GuybrushThreepwo> at least back then
[19:20] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, same problem, I'm riding a dinosaur of a computer here. Thank you, you have been helpful.
[19:20] <TomAstro> This system had Susse on a CF card with only one gig of ram and No HD and HDMI and surround worked great.
[19:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> i dont know whats changed since the beginning of the year
[19:22] <TomAstro> 1080P video out is great though via the HDMI.  Just sound via that rout is history with this new version.
[19:23] <cometsan> TomAstro, I notice the logs you posted said it also found a usb audio device. Maybe that is confusing alsa?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Associatex: then you will need to use the older flash
[19:23] <AssociateX> ActionParsnip, you're awesome! I didn't think to check what was installed. I got rid of the Adobe Flash Player plugin installer that somehow had gotten installed that I thought was blocked. Derp! Thank you very much for the help. I have my very old flash player installed and it is working correctly now. I'm thankful.
[19:24] <AssociateX> Yippy!
[19:25]  * Ubuntivity feels his problem is beyond the coverage of this channel
[19:26] <TomAstro> And Yes folks another Happy Camper in the garden of Ubuntu.  Congrats AssociateX.
[19:26] <TomAstro> bangs head on table.
[19:26] <TomAstro> lol
[19:26] <lvleph> when trying to mount my samba share using mount -t cifs -o guest,rw //192.168.1.197/Media /media/MINIX I get mount error(13): Permission denied on one computer while on another computer it works fine.
[19:26] <AssociateX> Ha ha!
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntivity  what problem would that be? maybe we can direct you to the right channel
[19:27] <cometsan> TomAstro, what kind of usb audio device do you have connected?
[19:27] <lvleph> The difference between the two comps is one is running 13.04 (the one that fails) and the other is running 12.04
[19:29] <TomAstro> Just my cam.  I had it all pulled and still no joy here.  So not an issue with the USB mic on the cam killing hdmi.  That mic works great.  It can pick up a cricket fart a block away.
[19:29] <dannymichel> How do i test font substitutions in the terminal again? Like see what font is replacing Arial etc.?
[19:30] <whoever> TomAstro: whats your can issue
[19:30] <whoever> it doesn't work, it does work, i am lost
[19:30] <TomAstro> I am glad all are answering me now.  Han on let me press play.
[19:32] <whoever> TomAstro: if you don't anster i / we cannot help you
[19:32] <TomAstro> I have an HDMI Issue.  Al previous versions of Ubuntu I had HDMI out along with various digital surround sound outputs.  As soon as I did a clean install (Fresh drive)  of Ubuntgu 13.10,  No more HDMI or Digital Surround Sound 5.1 and up[
[19:33] <lvleph> I guess I will repeat my question  when trying to mount my samba share using mount -t cifs -o guest,rw //192.168.1.197/Media /media/MINIX I get mount error(13): Permission denied on one computer while on another computer it works fine. The difference between the two comps is one is running 13.04 (the one that fails) and the other is running 12.04
[19:33] <whoever> TomAstro: is this a web cam ? if so then why hdmi
[19:34] <whoever> lvleph: is this in fstab or  you are manualy tring
[19:34] <lvleph> both
[19:34] <TomAstro> No not a problem Whoever.  I am glad for the help.  Just been posting this every half her or so.  lol  Thanks for taking an interest.  Just odd that 13.10 does not like my system here when all previous versions including Susse worked fine with HDMI.
[19:34] <NuSuey> how would I setup, that my output would go through alsa instead of pulseaudio?
[19:35] <whoever> lvleph:  are you tring to mount it from 192.768.197
[19:35] <TomAstro> Nope on the webcam thing.  I was just asked by my posted list in pastebin what the USB item was.
[19:35] <lvleph> no I am mounting from 192.168.1.191 whoever
[19:35] <TomAstro> http://pastebin.com/Mwhwvwxw
[19:36] <whoever> lvleph: tell me : who owns /MEDIA
[19:36] <lvleph> root
[19:36] <lvleph> but that media is on an Android device, so don't chide me for that
[19:36] <lvleph> lol
[19:38] <whoever> lvleph: so why are you tring to mount the andoid dir to your ubuntu box
[19:38] <lvleph> whoever, I have hacked the hell out of this android device and now it is a media server
[19:38] <whoever> lvleph: why not just hook up your usb cable aand transfer files
[19:38] <lvleph> lol
[19:38] <fishor> TomAstro, i switch to this channel, no need to make double work
[19:38] <lvleph> whoever, it is not a phone
[19:39] <whoever> lvleph: there is a samba share app in the play that will make this a lot easier for you
[19:39] <lvleph> whoever, there is no app running this is full samba
[19:39] <TomAstro> Thanks.  Thats ok  I was between Alsa Pulse and this channel.  lol
[19:39] <lvleph> like I said I have hacked the hell out of this android device whoever
[19:40] <whoever> lvleph: so it is still running a verient of andoid
[19:40] <lvleph> yes whoever but this is not relevant to my question
[19:41] <lvleph> If you would like to read more about what I have done I can give you a link to the writeup whoever
[19:41] <whoever> lvleph: ok, post it
[19:41] <HiddenDjinn> ok, i got postfix working, finally
[19:41] <lvleph> whoever, http://minixforums.com/threads/how-to-linux-optware-ssh-samba-transmission-flexget.2825/#post-23301
[19:41] <whoever> lvleph: i assume you can ping it correct ?
[19:42] <TomAstro> It looks to me that I have all stummped here.  There is no other information I can think of that I can supply to help me with this issue.  It looks to me that the new kernel for 13.10 does not like Nvidia HDMI .  I haven't taken notice of what sound cards of all the other growing complaints of no HDMI out with 13.10 but it is growing.
[19:42] <lvleph> I can connect with one Ubuntu comp and not another
[19:42] <lvleph> TomAstro, http://youtu.be/iYWzMvlj2RQ lol
[19:43] <HiddenDjinn> i've also noticed that 13.10 doesn't really have a complete lamp stack
[19:43] <whoever> lvleph: what about your allow and deny files in /etc
[19:43] <lvleph> whoever, I don't understand the question
[19:43] <NuSuey> I can use alsa output in vlc.. can I use alsa output in chrome? :o
[19:44] <didthatwork> Good Afternoon, I am trying to figure out how to uninstall/remove the youtube app from Ubuntu 13.10x64. I got a prompt in Chromium to install a web app and I clicked yes. Now the youtube app is always in my sound drop down list. Thank you
[19:44] <whoever> lvleph: typlicly in any linux distro there is in /etc/ host.allow and host.deny files that allow or deny hosts
[19:44] <fishor> TomAstro, don't panic. just test different kernel
  Been there seen that.  That does not relate to my issue though.
[19:45] <lvleph> oh, in the hosts file. There is no whitelist or blacklist whoever
[19:45] <HiddenDjinn> didthatwork, it's not installed into ubuntu, per se, it's installed into chromium
[19:45] <whoever> lvleph: can you ssh to it with both ubuntu boxes
[19:45] <lvleph> yes whoever
[19:45] <HiddenDjinn> didthatwork, you remove it from chromium, and it will be gone
[19:45] <whoever> lvleph: does eatch ubuntu box use the same login info
[19:45] <TomAstro> That's where I fail here.  I am a hardware person or specific software and firmware for what I needed in Broadcast.  I am lost on how to go about that.
[19:46] <lvleph> no whoever
[19:46] <lvleph> however they both have the same rsa pub
[19:46] <CherryHillTony> I had Skype, but now it's been days now that I can't get it to come up!
[19:46] <lvleph> this shouldn't matter with samba though whoever
[19:46] <whoever>  can you login to your android using the working credenials from the box with the credentials that don't work
[19:47] <amin> hack mobile sniff ?
[19:47] <lvleph> permission denied again whoever
[19:47] <DrGrov> A quick support for 13.10. I have a screenshot showing my online accounts from System Settings. Does this mean I have no accounts and how does it work if it gets accounts there? http://aijaa.com/xJNtBk
[19:47] <DrGrov> Or I mean when it says "Add account" it is empty so to speak?
[19:47] <lvleph> if I don't provide credentials it does ask for a pw whoever so that is a good sign
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: No accounts, yes. To add one, you click "Add account" and choose one.
[19:48] <whoever> lvleph: what  does your allow deny ip range look like in smb.conf
[19:48] <intrader> minimec, I need help with making a launcher for Freemind - this used to be easy in previous versions of unity.
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: Then you log in, it automatically logs you in to all supported apps for that kind of account (Empathy, Shotwell, whatever)
[19:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: So, I click on ex. Facebook if I want to add that? The + sign did nothing.
[19:48] <theadmin> DrGrov: Yep
[19:48] <whoever> so now can you log in to android from the working ubuntu box with both sets of credentials
[19:48] <DrGrov> theadmin: Ah okay. Now I am starting to get this. It was confusing me.
[19:49] <lvleph> whoever, I don't have an allow or deny section
[19:49] <DrGrov> theadmin: You saw the screenshot?
[19:49] <theadmin> intrader: Making a launcher is weirdly complicated nowadays, but does it have a menu entry already?
[19:49] <theadmin> DrGrov: Yeah.
[19:49] <lvleph> If you go to the github link in that link I provided you can see most of the smb.conf whoever
[19:49] <wjtaylor> how can I mount a dd of a whole drive?
[19:49] <minimec> intrader: hi.  ;)  gedit ~/.local/share/applications/Freemind.desktop
[19:49] <DrGrov> theadmin: Great, thanks. Is there any clear advantages of having accounts added vs. having them online as regular?
[19:50] <minimec> intrader: Now we have to fill in the stuff you need
[19:51] <whoever> lvleph: what does host allow (arround line 40)
[19:51] <theadmin> wjtaylor: sudo kpartx -a /part/to/image.dd
[19:51] <theadmin> wjtaylor: Eh, /path/to/image
[19:51] <whoever> lvleph: can you pastebin your smb.conf
[19:51] <solars> hey, I've got a NFC device in my laptop and wonder how to use it. It's recognized by neard etc, but how can I actually use nfc tags?
[19:52] <lvleph> This is easier https://github.com/erichlf/AndroidSeedBox/blob/master/smb.conf
[19:52] <theadmin> wjtaylor: sudo partx -a /path/to/image.dd and then run partx -s /path/to/image.dd to see what the partitions got created as
[19:52] <minimec> intrader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6389962/
[19:52] <lvleph> the only difference is the location of the share and its name whoever
[19:53] <Darksonn> Hello, my ubuntu won't start up at all, except for terminal in recovery mode. Any ideas?
[19:53] <ikonia> Darksonn: the most common cause for that would be an Xorg problem, looking in the xorg log files would be a good starting point
[19:53] <whoever> lvleph: so can you pastebin that info tem
[19:53] <whoever> *then
[19:53] <wjtaylor> theadmin: thanks I'll check that out.
[19:54] <Darksonn> ikonia: where are they located?
[19:54] <ikonia> Darksonn: /var/log
[19:54] <wraithD> hello everyone
[19:54] <kostkon> !find nfc
[19:54] <Darksonn> ikonia: found them
[19:54] <hopfen> hello. I am using linux for the first time. because my user is not in the sudoers file, I tried su>adminpass>visudo. I can edit the visudo file, but I dont know how to save the changes and the command line is gone, I see only --INSERT-- at the bottom. what should I do?
[19:55] <ikonia> hopfen: what linux distribution are you using
[19:55] <hopfen> I use centos
[19:55] <hopfen> 6.4
[19:55] <hopfen> on vmware
[19:55] <ikonia> hopfen: ok, so the #centos channel is the correct place
[19:55] <wraithD> only see insert? sounds like vim?
[19:55] <whoever> lvleph: the share should have the same location since it is on the same server
[19:55] <Darksonn> ikonia: what am i to look for?
[19:55] <TomAstro> Ahhhhhhhhh  Haaaaaaaa   OK, For all that tried to help with the HDMI issue here.  What in XBMC is allowing 5.1 surround sound to pass through S/PDIF and not HDMI but in surround sound when all other tests without XBMC only passes stereo?   HDMI audio is still no go even in XBMC
[19:55] <whoever> , so that is mostlikly your problem
[19:55] <ikonia> Darksonn: EE (this means error) is a good start, but any obvious errors or warnings
[19:56] <lvleph> whoever, http://pastebin.com/Pi6Gb19L
[19:56] <lvleph> that isn't what I meant whoever any I pasted the actual smb.conf
[19:57] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, (EE) Failed to load module "intel" (module does not exist, 0) theres also some other simmilar ones
[19:57] <TomAstro> this looks like a two fold issue.
[19:57] <ikonia> Darksonn: ok, so that's a good error, but also a concerning one, as intel should be installed by default on an ubuntu desktop install
[19:58] <Darksonn> ikonia: the error started around where i tried getting some drivers for a usb wireless reciever to work, i never succseeded
[19:58] <whoever> lvleph:  can you post your entire conf  i think i see  a problem
[19:58] <lvleph> TomAstro, maybe the Kernel doesn't have the option for S/PDIF passthrough with HDMI
[19:58] <ikonia> Darksonn: well, undoing what you did there would be a good starting point
[19:58] <lvleph> whoever, that is the entire conf
[19:58] <whoever> lvleph: do you want to allow annymouse
[19:58] <TomAstro> That could be possible
[19:59] <lvleph> yes
[19:59] <Darksonn> ikonia: im not exactly sure which packages it was though, is there a way to see my most recent uses of apt-get
[19:59] <whoever> thats a problem
[19:59] <lvleph> ok
[19:59] <ikonia> Darksonn: the dpkg.log is a good start
[19:59] <hamedk> mininec: i just wanted to share it with you! i could recover that libreoffice corrupted file! so hppy!
[19:59] <ikonia> Darksonn: however also checking if the xorg intel packages are installed would be a good start too, however I'd expect them to be there, if not your install is messed up
[19:59] <hamedk> mininec: thanks for your help bro :)
[19:59] <lvleph> which setting is the problem whoever?
[20:00] <minimec> hamedk: No problem.
[20:00] <Darksonn> ikonia: it has worked before
[20:00] <ikonia> Darksonn: yes, but it's not working now
[20:00] <ikonia> Darksonn: so that means you've had the modules in place - now you've done something to them, which means it's probably pretty messed up
[20:00] <TomAstro> Why was that changed though.  Leads back to,  If it's not broke don't try to fix it.   Now it's broke.  Or the other issues fix one thing and break another.  A Devs Nightmare.
[20:00] <whoever> lvleph: you dont need wins support , dns proxy, name resolv order or netbios name in global nor do you need guest account  or preferred master
[20:00] <minimec> hamedk: Happy that you got your problems solved.
[20:01] <lvleph> TomAstro, I didn't say that it wasn't in the kernel, but it is possible. I know this is why my android device can't do it.
[20:01] <whoever> guest will never work in this there is more you need to do for it to work
[20:01] <lvleph> ok whoever
[20:01] <Darksonn> ikonia: where should i look in dpkg.log file?
[20:01] <hamedk> minimec: actually all the forum guys were dissappointed at solving this problem but out of the blue i could recover my assignment out of libreoffice damn bug!
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: what do you mean "where" it's a log file of what gets installed
[20:02] <whoever> lvleph: so remove the guest ok, guest only entries for eadh share ,  and add a list of users , that will allow  the user acces to the directory
[20:02] <lvleph> I don't have guest in global whoever
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: I'd focus on if the intel stuff is there or not
[20:02] <__raven_> pulse is completely broken in 13.10: only noise with several programs and no support of volume control any more. how to fix that
[20:02] <lvleph> I want guest in each share though whoever
[20:02] <TomAstro> Oh I know what you ment.  Just saying that something in this release is now broken.  I am not the only one with the issue by what I have been reading this past week.
[20:02] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, how would i do that?
[20:02] <whoever> lvleph: but you have guest account = root
[20:02] <lvleph> without the guest I will have to use credentials whoever
[20:02] <ikonia> Darksonn: look in the package manager
[20:03] <lvleph> doesn't guest account = root assign ownership for the guests?
[20:03] <whoever> OvermindDL1: you have it set wrong , hold on, ill get you the correct settings
[20:03] <kostkon> __raven_, is it a fresh install?
[20:03] <__raven_> kostkon: yes
[20:03] <TomAstro> After being a PITA in here all day..  I might as well post a bug report since apparently all that tried to help may be stumped with this issue.
[20:04] <lvleph> it defines access priveleges according to the samba man whoever
[20:04] <TomAstro> And I do appreciate all the help.
[20:04] <theleft> anyone else still having problems with launchpad.net ppas? i'm still getting bad signatures. not sure where else to ask
[20:04] <kostkon> __raven_, hmm. tried deleting the ~/.pulse folder?
[20:04] <ikonia> theleft: the PPA owners is a good start, or the launchpad admin team
[20:04] <whoever> lvleph: you need to change security to user  , share will not work , it has been deprecated a while
[20:04] <__raven_> kostkon: on a new install? ill try...
[20:05] <TomAstro> I did earlier The Left.  Which ppa is hangbing on you or 404 ed
[20:05] <__raven_> kostkon: there is no .pulse
[20:05] <theleft> TomAstro, three of them actually
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, yeah i know, but give it a try. then logout and log back in
[20:05] <Darksonn> ikonia: dpkg -s intel gives Package intel is not installed and no information is available
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, hmm
[20:05] <lvleph> whoever, I was told on the samba irc to change from user to share
[20:05] <ikonia> Darksonn: the package name is not intel, you want the xorg intel package
[20:05] <whoever> lvleph: you alo need to  add  "map to gues = bad user "
[20:05] <kostkon> __raven_, is pulse actually running? i think not:   ps -A | grep pulse
[20:05] <TomAstro> If there are two close to the same post one here and let me see if it was the same here
[20:06] <lvleph> bad user doesn't work on the android device whoever
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:  i have it set to use in mine , you may want to keep it or change it to user if it doesn't work
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:
[20:06] <kalinek> Skype work in ubuntu?
[20:06] <Gblue> ye
[20:06] <whoever> lvleph:  but i ton't think it will really affect anything
[20:06] <Darksonn> ikonia: same output for dpkg -s xserver-xorg-video-intel (googles suggestion of the name)
[20:06] <TomAstro> Works here Kalinek
[20:07] <kostkon> kalinek, yes
[20:07] <__raven_> kostkon: its running and pavucontrol too but nothing is able to control in there
[20:07] <ikonia> Darksonn: ok, so it's not installed, there is a core part of the problem
[20:07] <xXxRosexXxEE> How do I turn off hardware acceleration in flashplayer off in Ubuntu 13+ 64bit?
[20:07] <ikonia> Darksonn: how/why that was uninstalled is a conern though
[20:07] <xXxRosexXxEE> the dam button doesn't work on settings in the video
[20:07] <lvleph> I will try the user setting again whoever
[20:07] <TomAstro> Just once in a while Skype hangs on connecting to their server.
[20:07] <Darksonn> ikonia: should we try to install it
[20:07] <kalinek> how install skype in ubuntu if commands app-get doesn`t work?
[20:08] <ikonia> Darksonn: if it needs/wants the intel module, yes
[20:08] <kostkon> __raven_, try restarting it, check for any error messages:  pulseaudio -k  and then  pulseaudio --start
[20:08] <TomAstro> download the .deb from their site and install it via the store
[20:08] <Darksonn> ikonia: how do we know if it does that?
[20:09] <minimec> kalinek: Enable the 'partner' repository in 'software & updates
[20:09] <TomAstro> Google Skype for Linux and there will be one page onm their site for the Linux version
[20:09] <kostkon> kalinek, you first need to enable the partner repo in software sources
[20:09] <ikonia> Darksonn: oyou said in log it wanted the intel module that was missing, that suggests it dowes
[20:09] <TomAstro> After you download it then just open it with the Ubuntu store ap
[20:10] <Darksonn> ikonia: okay, im guessing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:12] <Darksonn> ikonia: im guessing sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:12] <__raven_> kostkon: it seems we are going back in time: there was an interference between several apps
[20:13] <TomAstro> Thank you to all that tried to help with My HDMI issue here.  This looks to be a unresolvable isse here and I don't want to take up anymore time when ther eare others that may have something simple to fix.  Thanks again all.
[20:13] <kostkon> __raven_, one of your apps is blocking the sound card right
[20:13] <kostkon> __raven_, which one
[20:13] <TomAstro> goes to file a bug report for what it may be worth.
[20:14] <__raven_> kostkon: not "blocking" like in "old days" but one app seemed to have caused audacity playing with x100 speed or something
[20:14] <xXxRosexXxEE> omg...
[20:14] <xXxRosexXxEE> fine don't help
[20:15] <kostkon> __raven_, it could be audacity. check that "default" is set as the input and output device in audacity's settings
[20:16] <__raven_> kostkon: it was all unchanged i just restarted every app after restarting pulseaudio. perhaps any temporarily mess up by giving the options like sample rate to the apps?
[20:17] <kostkon> __raven_, time will tell
[20:17] <__raven_> kostkon: yes ;) but tnx for the moment
[20:17] <SupaYoshi> does anybody here have experience with Ubuntu as a PXE server?
[20:18] <SupaYoshi> I want to use Ubuntu as a PXE server but I don't know any good packages / software to do that./
[20:18] <kostkon> __raven_, np
[20:19] <vanillah> how can i install bsd ports on ubuntu
[20:19] <ikonia> vanillah: you don't
  Is this what you are looking for?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[20:19] <ikonia> vanillah: they are meant for bsd, so not to be used
[20:20] <vanillah> ikonia ?? but it's open source right, it won't work on ubuntu?
[20:20] <ikonia> vanillah: ports are built/packaged for bsd
[20:20] <theleft> vanillah,???
[20:20] <vanillah> i cant stand using apt-get for sfotware,, is there a alternative?
[20:20] <ikonia> vanillah: same way you don't use redhat built software on ubuntu, or even different ubuntu versions such as 12.04/13.10 packages
  ---->   http://askubuntu.com/questions/90826/ubuntu-equivalent-to-bsd-ports
[20:21] <ikonia> vanillah: what is the problem with apt-get or front ends to the package manager ?
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> thnx
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> that was what i wanted to do yeah
[20:21] <TomAstro> yw
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> Also, is there anyway about dhcpproxy?
[20:21] <yeats> vanillah: ubuntu/debian might not be for you then ;-)
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> I have a running DHCP server from my router which works really well....
[20:21] <vanillah> ikonia but becouse i run ubuntu this arent so helpful :D it says install gentoo
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> And I dont wanna change it actually just beacuse I wanna run a PXE server ;)
[20:21] <SupaYoshi> And I read that with dhcp proxy you can do something that you dont need to do something
[20:21] <ikonia> vanillah: what is the problem with apt-get
[20:22] <Neurotoxin> when I type:   sudo chmod 777  /home/me/mystupidfolder/     will then every file I create in there have full read permission???
[20:22] <TomAstro> ----->  Proxy info    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
[20:22] <satdav> Hello I was wondering when i install ldap on the site
[20:23] <vanillah> ikonia it gives me slow binary, isnt as flexible as good bsd ports etc :-(
[20:23] <satdav> server how do i access the admin area ofit
[20:23] <TomAstro> Proxy and PXE info ------>   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1606910
[20:23] <ikonia> vanillah: a slow binary ? what ?
[20:24] <vanillah> ikonia a binary that are slow like i386 not mine native hardware.. options i dont want turned on and no custom
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: I'm sorry but that is just made up stuff
[20:24] <TomAstro> LDAP info -------> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: it's not built for 386
[20:24] <vanillah> ikonia ok, firefox are build with pulseaudio,, i dont want,, its made up?
[20:24] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. I have asked in ##networking too but just in case it's an Ubuntu issue, I thought I'd ask here. I'm trying to reach a remote ipv6 machine A via a machine B connected to A via a VPN. I'm on the same IPv6 LAN as B and can ping6 B. B can ping6 A via the tun interface. I have a default route pointing to B but somehow ping6 doesn't pick it up when I ping A. Has someone faced such an issue?
[20:24] <Neurotoxin> heeelp, how can I make a single command line always be executed at every system start?
[20:24] <ikonia> vanillah: some dependencies are optional, it's worth checking
[20:24] <Neurotoxin> and silently
[20:25] <kostkon> vanillah, it isn't
[20:25] <bekks> !autostart | Neurotoxin
[20:25] <ikonia> vanillah: and you didn't say dependencies where you problem, you said it's "slow 386" - that is simple made up
[20:25] <satdav> I am on the latest 13 build
[20:25] <vanillah> ikonia with bsd ports i can choose every option i want, remove useless things,, with ubuntu i must install many package and waste resourse
[20:25] <theleft> Neurotoxin, scripts
[20:25] <ikonia> vanillah: then use a source based distro, ubuntu isn't designed to be used in that way
[20:26] <vanillah> ikonia ubuntu isnt design to be used in production,,? i guess so
[20:26] <yeats> vanillah: /join #gentoo
[20:26] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[20:26] <ikonia> vanillah: please stop making up stuff, ubuntu is a production class machine, that's why it doesn't compile things on the fly like ports
[20:26] <kostkon> DrGrov, hi
[20:26] <satdav> TomAstro, I am using 13.10 64 bit
     Big Google Link ----------------->    https://www.google.com/search?q=Updating+13.04+to+13.10+server+via+remote&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&channel=fe&client=browser-ubuntu&hl=en#channel=fe&hl=en&q=connect+to+a+remote+ipv6+machine+on+ubuntu
[20:26] <ikonia> vanillah: I suggest using a source based distro if that is your needs/desires
[20:26] <DrGrov> How can I check my USB ports on 13.10 via a terminal to determine if I am using the keyboard in the USB 3.0 slots or probably just in a USB 2.0 slot? This mobo is too advanced to manage at first.
[20:26] <DrGrov> hi kostkon
[20:27] <vanillah> ikonia is not production class, security vulnerability every week,, new systemD forced on me,, why linux have so much problems?
[20:27] <vanillah> ikonia if gentoo fix this i switch
[20:27] <ikonia> vanillah: ok - it appers you are trolling, if you don't like it, don't use it,
[20:27] <Calinou> vanillah there is no systemd in Ubuntu, only Upstart :)
[20:27] <bekks> systemd? when, where, on ubuntu?
[20:27] <ikonia> vanillah: try gentoo, see if yo ulike it
[20:27] <Neurotoxin> does ubuntu one not sync files without file endings?
[20:27] <DrGrov> I can check in the UEFI GUI on the mobo what is what but it does not say anything about the front panel 2x USB ports.
[20:27] <TomAstro> There should be info for either 32  or 64 bit.
[20:28] <bekks> Neurotoxin: It does. But how and where do you "sync files".
[20:28] <Gblue> [21:25] <dnivra> Hello. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10. I have asked in ##networking too but just in case it's an Ubuntu issue, I thought I'd ask here. I'm trying to reach a remote ipv6 machine A via a machine B connected to A via a VPN. I'm on the same IPv6 LAN as B and can ping6 B. B can ping6 A via the tun interface. I have a default route pointing to B but somehow ping6 doesn't pick it up when
[20:28] <Gblue> I ping A. Has someone faced such an issue?
[20:28] <Neurotoxin> automatically a selected folder from the ubuntuone gui
[20:28] <Gblue> ^^
[20:29] <pozz> hi guys, after dist-upgrade, my desktop looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg
[20:29] <pozz> does anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[20:29] <satdav> @ldap
[20:29] <satdav> !ldap
[20:29] <dnivra> DrGrov: Thanks for that! But I don't think that quite answers my query - that is to connect to a remote IPv6 machine directly which isn't what I want(do correct me if I understood wrong).
[20:30] <DrGrov> dnivra: Huh?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> pozz, This a distro upgrade or running dist-upgrade, and are you using a proprietary graphic driver?
[20:30] <satdav> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-and-configure-a-basic-ldap-server-on-an-ubuntu-12-04-vps
   Try to get to the video drivers and update.  Are you on a Nivida card?
[20:30] <DrGrov> dnivra: Probably just a wrong highlight on my nickname :)
[20:30] <satdav> is this the same way as 13.4
[20:30] <dnivra> DrGrov: Oh my bad! That was for TomAstro.
[20:30] <dnivra> TomAstro: Thanks for that! But I don't think that quite answers my query - that is to connect to a remote IPv6 machine directly which isn't what I want(do correct me if I understood wrong).
[20:31] <DrGrov> dnivra: No prob :)
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro, You can tab complete nicks
[20:31] <pozz> wilee-nilee, yes, nivida graphics. but I tryed reinstalling my current driver as well as the different options available. nothing works to fix it
  ??
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> pozz, Using the one from nvidia will not follow a kernel upgrade, generally here we suggest the repos version, not an area I have had to mess with, but I wouild remove whats there then reinstall what works for you.
  I have had that exact issue,  Are you on a Nvidia Video card?
[20:32] <evilytwisted> hi, is there a program or command prompt that can tell me if my graphic card is fried.. Or i just need to update it..
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> !tab |TomAstro
[20:33] <pozz> Its weird, because logging into any... enviroment? (unity 2d, cinnamon, ect)... the background works fine
[20:33] <pozz> just unity 3d does this
[20:33] <Thomas_> Hi  Is it possible for apt-get to show a list of packages a user installed in date order?
[20:34] <pozz> TomAstro, yes
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, you could try resetting it
[20:34] <yeats> pozz: if you create a new user account, does the same thing happen for the new user?
The Nouveau preset driver is the issue
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro having <TomAstro> does not notify the user tab completing the nick does is all, or a comma after the actual nick or a :
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, w8 for the link
[20:34] <pozz> k
[20:34] <kostkon> pozz, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:35] <TomAstro> Ahhh Okis Willie.  I'm old school.  That used to work.
[20:35] <pozz> kostkon, that fails to work as well
[20:35] <Thomas_> Hi  Is it possible for apt-get to show a list of packages a user installed in date order?
  was what I used to use back in the day
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> TomAstro, Cool, just a heads up so the other sees your post is all. ;)
[20:35] <kostkon> pozz, as TomAstro has said, try activating the nvidia driver
[20:36] <pozz> I am using the graphics driver from the repos.. sorry I did not mean that I downloaded one from nvidia
[20:36] <yeats> Thomas_: I don't think so.  What problem are you trying to solve?
[20:36] <piroschok> hello. I am using linux (centos 6.4) for the first time. because my user is not in the sudoers file, I tried su>adminpass>visudo. I can edit the visudo file, but I dont know how to save the changes and the command line is gone, I see only --INSERT-- at the bottom. what should I do? I cant use centos irc because of registration. none of my email accounts receives the activation email. but...
[20:36] <piroschok> ...from what I understand the program terminal is the same on all distributions. please help
[20:36] <yeats> piroschok: you need to ask in a CentOS channel
[20:37] <piroschok> i cant join it
[20:37] <ubun> hi
[20:37] <TomAstro> Its hard to activate it since you have a heck of a time digging through the video mess.  It took me a half hr to get to the Softwar & Updates ap and then to the Additional Drivers tab
[20:37] <DJones> piroschok: You should ask that in the Centos IRC channel, this channel only supports Ubuntu
[20:37] <yeats> piroschok: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[20:37] <pozz> TomAstro, how can I fixed the Nouveau preset driver?
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> piroschok, talk to the guys at #freenode to get registered.
[20:37] <TomAstro> There is a way to update the driver in terminal but I can't remember it though.
[20:37] <pozz> I can get to the additional drivers tab
[20:38] <pozz> but additional drivers does nothing, I tryed activating each available one. nothing works
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> pozz, I believe a reboot is needed on thew driver load to use it as well.
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> the new*
[20:39] <TomAstro> Pozz:  Try getting to the Software &Updates tool then click the Additional drivers tab and select the Tested driver.
[20:39] <pozz> yeah, after activating one, I rebooted, no fix, tryed anther, rebooted, nothing... and so on
[20:40] <ubun> I setuped a bind9 server with ubuntu behind my router, the router uses a dhcp server for my lan-network, can I use the DNs server like this way or should he has his own dhcp sever
[20:40] <TomAstro> If anyone has the command line approach for updating the Nividia driver for Pozz  Please chime in.
[20:40] <pozz> well there is no additional drivers tab... if i go to settings, there is an option for additional drivers, but no tested driver selection available
[20:41] <Fudus> isn't it apt-get install nvidia-current-updates
[20:41] <pozz> I will try tha
[20:41] <pozz> t
[20:41] <BadRobot> Hi, is it appropriate to ask a ngix/php fpm related problem here?
[20:42] <Fudus> Probably better in #ubuntu-server
[20:42] <BadRobot> noted, thank you.
[20:42] <iori> re
[20:42] <ubun> thanls
[20:43] <TomAstro> pozz:  (Grab the Proprietary, tested)
[20:43] <TomAstro> Just got a Tele call brb
[20:44] <pozz> TomAstro, I will see if I can take a screen shot of that I am using
[20:45] <Fudus> nvidia-current-updates didn't work?
[20:45] <pozz> I probobly need a restart to see if they did
[20:45] <TomAstro> yep
[20:47] <pozz> http://picpaste.com/JR1JUNZI.png
[20:47] <pozz> that is what my additional drivers windows looks like
[20:47] <thanouris> who can guide me to create abootable usb?
[20:47] <bekks> !usb | thanouris
 Startup Disk Creator
[20:48] <pozz> Anyways, I am going to try a reboot to see if nvidia-current-updates worked
[20:48] <pozz> brb
[20:49] <DrGrov> Is there any good sensor monitor for HDD, CPU temp, mobo temp etc. in 13.10, preferrably with a GUI? I got info from #ubuntu-fi about lm-sensors buit I would love to get a GUI.
[20:50] <bekks> DrGrov: conky :)
[20:50] <Fudus> psensor
[20:50] <DrGrov> bekks: Aah, conky :)
[20:50] <DrGrov> Fudus: psensor has a gui? :)
[20:50] <DrGrov> bekks: Unfortunately I am past the days I need to tweak ;-)
[20:51] <Fudus> Yes
[20:51] <DrGrov> bekks: But conky is still probably the best tool I have ever used :)
[20:51] <DrGrov> Fudus: Thanks, I will test psensor then to see what my mobo is doing and how hot it is.
[20:51] <thanouris> i want to try it with another distro
[20:51] <bekks> DrGrov: conky doesnt tweak - it just displays stuff :)
[20:51] <DrGrov> bekks: Yes of course but I used it in order to tweak other stuff with other programs so to speak :)
[20:53] <lapidary> I setup an email server on a vhost and I can only send, inbound mail is bounced back as 550 relay not permitted
[20:53] <lapidary> how do I find out more
[20:53] <TomAstro> pozz:  That looks correct.  Sorry I got a tele call, but off now.
[20:53] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.html
[20:53] <DrGrov> bekks: I am a bit curious to know how this Asrock X79 Extreme 3 mobo will really handle temperatures I set as a limit before it activates the fans. Manually did the cpu fan to 3(9 maximum) and 55 degrees C to keep it a bit more silent.
[20:55] <lapidary> Fudus: thanks, but I'm on sendmail not postfix
[20:56] <DrGrov> psensor is probably laggish. It just froze on me :(
[20:57] <Fudus> sendmail isn't officially supported by Ubuntu, so you'll probably need to go to #sendmail
[20:57] <lapidary> didn't now that.  I'll give that a try!
[20:58] <Fudus> Not possible to go to postfix i suppose?
[20:58] <Fudus> As it is the  official email it'd probably be easier to use on Ubuntu
[20:58] <lapidary> sure, you think that would be better
[20:59] <lapidary> ok; since i have other problems with sendmail, I'll switch
[20:59] <kyle__> lapidary: sendmail doesn't get much love from anyone anymore.
[20:59] <lapidary> maybe it's the messy config files
[21:01] <kyle__> lapidary: Do you have a reason to avoid postfix, or to stay with sendmail?
[21:01] <DrGrov> bekks: Conky it is, this psensor was just utterly laggish and did not leave me any choice to alter settings without freezing up on me and forcing the kill switch.
[21:01] <lapidary> sendmail isn't working; it's not accepting my ssl key, and it's not receiving emails
[21:02] <lapidary> that's reason enough to try another tool for me
[21:02] <kyle__> Good reason.  Postfix and exim are much easier to deal with.
[21:03] <DrGrov> How can I purge psensor easily and get rid of the additional packages it installed for me?
[21:03] <kyle__> DrGrov: apt-get purge psensor
[21:04] <TomAstro> lapidary:  are you looking for an easy to set up and use Email client?
[21:04] <kyle__> DrGrov: Or something like that.  Purge removes the package & it's settings files, temp stuff, etc, where remove leaves them.  After that, you run, apt-get autoremove.
[21:04] <lapidary> TomAstro: no, just want to setup an email server.
[21:04] <DrGrov> kyle__: Ok, apt-get autoremove after and it removes hddtemp and psensor-common then. Thanks.
[21:05] <TomAstro> Ahhh  okis the otherway around.
[21:05] <lapidary> TomAstro: easy is always good though! :-)
[21:05] <kyle__> DrGrov: Never used psensor, is it a GUI or CLI monitor?
[21:06] <DrGrov> kyle__: A GUI monitor but buggish. Could not access preferences without it freezing and forcing a killall on it.
[21:06] <zykotick9> kyle__: "apt-cache depends psensor" would show you
[21:07] <TomAstro> lapidary:  I can post you a google link for a few if you want
[21:08] <DrGrov> What would be the best file system to use for a USB 3.0 16GB flash drive, maybe both used in 13.10 and in Windows machines?
[21:08] <bekks> DrGrov: FAT32.
[21:08] <lapidary> I think I'll go with postfix
[21:08] <DrGrov> bekks: But limits to 4GB file size?
[21:08] <bekks> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: Is there anything else than FAT32 I could format to to get rid of the 4GB file size limitation?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, You can use a nfts if needed
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> ntfs*
[21:09] <bekks> DrGrov: NTFS, but ntfs write support in linux is pretty slow.
[21:09] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: What are the disadvantages with that?
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: Ah roger that.
[21:09] <kyle__> DrGrov: extfat. Not as hideous as fat32, not as bad linux support asn ntfs
[21:09] <lapidary> TomAstro: For the most part I want to say I have my own email server.  Anything else (SpamAssen, AV software, fancy config) is just nice.
[21:09] <ferruccio> ciao
[21:09] <DrGrov> bekks: FAT32 it is then. Mostly documents and small stuff anyhow on it, not exceeding 4GB anyhow probably.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, I have seen none myself I have a 2Tb external with ntfs.
[21:10] <DrGrov> bekks: GParted to the rescue then in formatting the 16GB? It was used for a Win8 OEM Recovery I tried
[21:10] <TomAstro> lapidary:  There is Zimbra, iRedMail, PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystem and Atmail to name a few
[21:10] <bekks> DrGrov: Yeah, probably.
[21:10] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Okay, so NTFS is still then probably the best.
[21:11] <DrGrov> bekks: Ok. Can a 8GB flash memory card be formatted as well within Gparted?
[21:11] <pozz> Hi guys
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> DrGrov, best is a subjective, if you want bigger that 4 gig files it seems appropriate.
[21:11] <TomAstro> pozz:  how did you make out with that driver issue?
[21:11] <kyle__> :/  the avg live cd doesn't support ext4 or xfs.  WTF?
[21:11] <kyle__> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:12] <DrGrov> wilee-nilee: Yes, somehow bigger than 4GB is not essential for the 16GB USB stick but it will probably be essential later for an external drive.
[21:12] <pozz> I am back, just wanted to say that nvidia update thing did not work
[21:12] <DrGrov> bekks: About conky, it is GUI?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> kyle__, This is a worldwide channel crossing cultural and ethnic boundaries does swearing seem appropriate here?
[21:12] <pozz> it caused my computer to not boot up.. just a flashing white cursor at the top left of my screen
[21:12] <TomAstro> Hmmmm  That is odd what is the type of NVidia card there?
[21:13] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky has a guide
[21:13] <kyle__> wilee-nilee: Did I say the em-ess word?  Sorry.
[21:13] <TomAstro> Ohhhhh   Hang on just the flasher?
[21:13] <pozz> quadro 2000 and a quadro 4000
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> kyle__, an acronym
[21:13] <Fudus> ctrl-alt-f1 and do a apt-get remove nvidia*
[21:13] <DrGrov> bekks: It does not seem to give a GUI for Conky. :(
[21:13] <TomAstro> How are you looking at the vidio  HDMI, DVI or VGA out?
[21:13] <wjtaylor> I think my dd image that I'm trying to restore is corrupt. I've been looking at it through a hex editor and it's got the mbr, then it has what it seems is the primary partition. There are 4 partition entries on this disk. 1 primary, 1 extended, and 2 logical volumes in the extended. At the end of the primary partition (end partition block * 512) I see FILE* in the hex editor, I see it for the other logical volume as well, but then
[21:13] <wjtaylor> there's more. Am I calculating the byte offset correctly ending block * 512. (This is a 512 byte sector drive.)
[21:14] <Fudus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery doesn't help i suppose?
[21:14] <TomAstro> pozz:  How are you looking at the vidio  HDMI, DVI or VGA out?
[21:15] <pozz> display port
[21:15] <Fudus> Then you can reboot to get back
[21:15] <DrGrov> Is there any way to check which USB port I am using with my keyboard? I want to verify that it is not a USB 3.0 port in the front.
[21:15] <TomAstro> Do you have one or two monitors?
[21:15] <pozz> one monitor
[21:15] <kyle__> DrGrov: I thought lsusb -v showed some of the information.
[21:15] <Fudus> lsusb
[21:16] <logic_prog> I'm runnning a server on ubuntu and need to simulate dropped connections. Is there a linux tool that will randomly close / re-open port 8080 ?
[21:16] <TomAstro> Do you have a vga 9 pin out on that card?
[21:16] <pozz> hummm, dont know about that
[21:16] <pozz> I will see
[21:16] <Fudus> What does Software-properties prop drivers have?
[21:16] <maujhsn> I Would like to know if installing "libpulse-dev" does anything to improve the quality of pulseaudio experience?
[21:16] <TomAstro> pozz:  Why I ask is that it may be ouputting a VGA signal that is fine at the same time it is outputting a blank digital .
[21:17] <kyle__> logic_prog: Shouldn't be hard to lash togeather a script to block and unblock the port using iptables.
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> logic_prog  there's also #ubuntu-server
[21:17] <TomAstro> I have ran into that here with my 42 inch screen
[21:17] <logic_prog> yeah, but that requires using sudo
[21:17] <kyle__> maujhsn: that will just install the header files.
[21:17] <TomAstro> Hapozz:  Hang on let me check something
[21:17] <jerjunds> Hi
[21:17] <maujhsn> kyle_ Then what/
[21:18] <pozz> hummm
[21:18] <DrGrov> kyle__: kyle__ That does show up the keyboard but nothing definite if it is USB 3.0 or 2.0.
[21:18] <pozz> I see
[21:18] <TomAstro> pozz:   Hang on let me check something
[21:18] <pozz> okay
[21:18] <kyle__> maujhsn: The -dev packages contain header files, and sometimes a few other small things necessary to compile and link programs against a particularly library.
[21:18] <Fudus> The -dev packages are for when you want to compile something
[21:18] <kyle__> DrGrov: When it talks about the USB ports, it probalby says if their uhci/ehci or something else... look for that part.  I forget what the usb3 standard's name is.
[21:18] <TomAstro> pozz: Are there two cards there a 2000 and a 4000?
[21:19] <Fudus> usb3 have a larger socket if I remember correctly
[21:19] <pozz> TomAstro, yes, and they both have vga available
[21:19] <pozz> I am plugged into the 2000, but they are hooked up internally to work together
[21:19] <maujhsn> kyle_ If I install it via synaptic package manager It does the compiling for me right?
[21:19] <DrGrov> kyle__: Ok, I have the possibility to look it through in the UEFI Bios GUI but can not seem to get a grip of if the front panel ports are 3.0 or 2.0.
[21:19] <kyle__> Fudus: Not on the PC end.  It's the same mechanically, but manfucaturers color it blue (except for apple, because they're apple).
[21:19] <Fudus> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenovo_x220.jpg for the difference
[21:19] <TomAstro> Okis hang on  I doubt it but in may be a driver conflict between the 2k and 4k series
[21:19] <DrGrov> kyle__: The mobo manual says the front pane ones are a USB 3.0 header (2x 3.0)
[21:20] <kyle__> maujhsn: No.  It just gives you the files necessary for compiling.
[21:20] <pozz> I dont think so, this happends to my other computer as well that is a GTX? 680
[21:20] <zykotick9> pozz: have you tried nomodeset?
[21:20] <pozz> no...
[21:20] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | pozz
[21:20] <kyle__> DrGrov: There used to be a gnome-tool that showed what was attached where, but I haven't looked at it in over a decade.
[21:21] <pozz> I see...
[21:21] <maujhsn> kyle_Would you happen to have that installed in any of your distros?
[21:21] <Fudus> So blue is USB3, ok then :P
[21:21] <frog_> is ubuntu able to play 5.1 audio over spdif?
[21:21] <TomAstro> pozz:  lol  the bot beat me to it.   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[21:22] <DrGrov> kyle__: On the other hand now when I come to think about it does not really matter :) I got 2x 3.0 then in front if that is the case and 2x 3.0 in the back. Can I safely unplug the keyboard right now and just plug it in the back without any major crash issues? LOL
[21:22] <bekks> DrGrov: That should work.
[21:22] <kyle__> maujhsn: Probably not.  I dont generally compile desktop apps, and pulse, jack and all the rest aggravate me to no end, so I try and not look at them.
[21:22] <BuntuLover> Is it possible to change the Ubuntu splash screen?
[21:22] <DrGrov> bekks: So I can safely remove the keyboard and re-plug it in the back?
[21:22] <TomAstro> zykotick9:    Thanks,  was digging for that.
[21:22]  * kyle__ prefers using just alsa drivers, and NO sound daemon or other oberblown system.
[21:22] <bekks> DrGrov: Yes.
[21:23] <DrGrov> bekks: Testing.
[21:23] <Slade-> so, recommendations on asp.net for mono... fastcgi or the xsp?
[21:23]  * DrGrov is running already in case there is an explosion
[21:23] <maujhsn> kyle_ thanks!
[21:23] <zykotick9> kyle__: if you use a DE, trying to remove pulse is really not worth the effort IMO
[21:23] <bekks> DrGrov: You can run, but you cannot hide :P
[21:23] <pozz> Not sure if nomodeset is what I am looking for... could it fix this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg
[21:23] <DrGrov> bekks: LOL :)
[21:24] <TomAstro> Sometimes you can hook up a standard vga display and bingo Bob's your uncle
[21:24] <DrGrov> bekks: I just decided to re-plug in the front, to the right one instead so I am more comfortable with plugging in some other USB device in the front :)
[21:24]  * DrGrov is extremely lazy
[21:24] <kyle__> zykotick9: I know.  That's why I try and ignore it.  If I messed with it, I'd be in a foul mood, and probably yell at kids to get off my lawn.
[21:25] <TomAstro> pozz:  I have had that here and as soon as I set up all the video via the vga signal, reboot and all is well
[21:25] <pozz> I see... isent vga lower quality then display port?
[21:27] <pozz> maybe reinstalling ubuntu-desktop might help? is the line to type apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[21:27] <TomAstro> pozz: yep.  Well at least I found that here with my TV.  I'm luckey that this 42 incher has a vga input as well as composite, DVI and HDMI
[21:27] <bekks> pozz: No, thats a meta package only.
[21:27] <pozz> well I think I have a vga to display port adapter laying around somewhere, but playing a 1080p movie onto my 55in may not look as great
[21:28] <TomAstro> pozz: not that I know of but it will dedfualt to that Noveau driver.  You can blacklist that driver also
[21:28] <TomAstro> default^
[21:28] <maujhsn> Guys! best line of the day! "http://i.stack.imgur.com/5ETmD.jpg"
[21:28] <pozz> lol why?
[21:29] <maujhsn> Just saying lol!
[21:29] <pozz> its not lol, I have been having this problem for over a month, I can not dist-upgrade with out it breaking...
[21:29] <pozz> I hate it.
[21:30] <maujhsn> Sorry pal lol!
[21:30] <bekks> pozz: Did you try to use the nvidia driver from the repos?
[21:30] <auronandace> !lol
[21:30] <pozz> bekks, yes
[21:30] <DrGrov> bekks: That did the trick. Now I got it formatted as fat32.
[21:30] <pozz> I tryed 1000 things, I dont think it is a graphics problem it think it is a setting somewhere
[21:30] <TomAstro> pozz:  hang in there I am going to give you the info on how to black list that oddball Noveau driver
[21:31] <DrGrov> Always a nuisance to use GParted, scary stuff in case something goes horribly wrong.
[21:31] <bekks> DrGrov: Then create a backup before...
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> pozz, What release is this?
[21:31] <pozz> okay
[21:31] <pozz> 12.04
[21:31] <maujhsn> ubottu this is scary your sounding HUMAN!
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> pozz, There are resets for unity and compiz, if when using the repos driver I would run it.
[21:32] <pozz> tryed both
[21:32] <pozz> I reset everything I could find and rebooted... nothing ever solved this problem, it drives me crazy
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> maujhsn  next: ubottu will start reproducing
[21:33] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Yeah, but whom? ;)
[21:33] <pozz> I ever took a backup of compiz on a computer I have that works fine and loaded it into this computer, never helped
[21:33] <fishduck> dash shows no search results. I purged unity-lens-* to get rid of the spyware. Did that also remove its local-search functionality?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> pozz, The dist-upgrade generally is a kernel upgrade, can you, or would you find some link to that and your problem, generally that is the issue
[21:34] <zykotick9> fishduck: lol, that was the issue.  local searches where being send to ubuntu...
[21:34] <fishduck> zykotick9: being sent to amazon, mind you.
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> pozz,Try a kernel where this is not happening in the grub menu maybe.
[21:35] <maujhsn> MonkeyDust It's scary, and no hahaha!
[21:35] <Rory> I have a folder full of files named as numbers, how can I rename them to "pad" the numbers to double digits? ie 1.txt becomes 01.txt, etc?
[21:35] <pozz> well I have a backup so I can just use it, but I want to use the most updated kernel
[21:37] <TomAstro> pozz:  left a PM for youy
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> pozz, It's not that you have to use an earlier kernel but finding correlations, rather than random hypothesis.
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> pozz, commonly called the scientific method, hehe
[21:39] <Slade-> hmm.. no config to automatically start up mono-fastcgi eh
[21:40] <Slade-> err, no package
[21:40] <pozz> okay, good point.
[21:40] <arseny> me4oslav
[21:41] <pozz> well I just restored my computer, so I am waiting for dist-upgrade to finish, then I am going to try blacklisting the noveau driver... if that fails, I will get grub to start and try a different kernel
[21:43] <HelloWorld321> The latest version is Saucy Salamander, and it's been fully live for less than a month?
[21:43] <itsnotlupus> I wish the ubuntu updater thingy would stop thinking that it's totally cool to update my tuxonice kernel with a generic kernel.
[21:44] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: pin.
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> hmm maybe I need to explicitly uninstall them generics
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> kyle__, grenade?
[21:44] <itsnotlupus> we ARE doing free word association, right?
[21:45] <therazr> HelloWorld321: yes
[21:45] <zykotick9> !pin | itsnotlupus
[21:45] <itsnotlupus> so.. no grenades? :'(
[21:45] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: You pin packages in apt :)  See ubott's comment.
[21:45] <itsnotlupus> alright thanks!
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Hey guys
[21:46] <kyle__> itsnotlupus: No gernades.  Unless that's slang for a manly version of a girly-drink.
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Anyone on 13.10 having issues with freezing?
[21:46] <alfonsojon> Nouveau seems to crap out quite a bit.
[21:46] <itsnotlupus> I like me some girly drinks.
[21:47] <HelloWorld321> I'm having issues upgrading to 13.10.  Mine says that it's failing to authenticate all the packages.
[21:47] <therazr> !upgrade |HelloWorld321
[21:48] <HelloWorld321> tx, ubottu
[21:48] <alfonsojon> I feel like I should have stayed on 12.04
[21:48] <alfonsojon> I'm considering reinstalling, actually
[21:48] <alfonsojon> 13.10 is fast, but stability suffers
[21:48] <zykotick9> therazr: you too ;)
[21:48] <itsnotlupus> alfonsojon, you could try embracing the dark side, and go proprietary with your drivers?
[21:48] <HelloWorld321> oh,hey : there's spcific sections for each upgrade; but no 13.04 to 13.10 section
[21:48] <alfonsojon> Already have
[21:48] <alfonsojon> Didn't like it.
[21:48] <alfonsojon> lol
[21:49] <itsnotlupus> it does feel dirty.
[21:49] <alfonsojon> It fixes the lockups, but oh boy is it ugly
[21:49] <alfonsojon> Plymouth is now stdout
[21:49] <therazr> HelloWorld321: you should follow this one http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[21:49] <Calinou> graphics driver issues, alfonsojon
[21:49] <alfonsojon> I like my graphical boot splash
[21:49] <alfonsojon> :(
[21:50] <Calinou> if it doesn't work, disable it in /etc/default/grub
[21:50] <fishduck> question: a privacy option in settings says "don not include online result". However, WILL my searches be sent online anyway? (even though they arent included in the search result)
[21:50] <HelloWorld321> k, tx therazr
[21:50] <Calinou> really, it's just 5-10 seconds where you don't do anything
[21:50] <alfonsojon> Oh, also I don't like the new Unity smart scope so much
[21:50] <alfonsojon> Thankfully, it can be disabled.
[21:50] <alfonsojon> :)
[21:59] <Thomas_> Hi  I updated to Ubuntu 13.10 and all apache virtual hosts have stopped working? They're all still listed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but when visiting any of them I see just the 'It works!' page
[21:59] <Thomas_> Help!
[21:59] <clifter> Running Ubuntu 13.10 - What would be a good equivalent of Acronis for cloning to a new hard drive?
[21:59] <Calinou> maybe CloneZilla
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> +1 clonezilla it saves the mbr
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> acronis does not
[22:00] <clifter> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:01] <clifter> Calinou: thanks
[22:02] <Thomas_> Hi  I updated to Ubuntu 13.10 and all apache virtual hosts have stopped working? They're all still listed in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled but when visiting any of them I see just the 'It works!' page. Also there are virtual hosts in /etc/apache2/sites-available but if I 'a2ensite something' it says 'ERROR: Site does not exist'
[22:06] <branden> lel
[22:09] <arcsky> how do i kill xorg/gnome?
[22:09] <arcsky> from cli
[22:10] <minimec> arcsky: probably best is 'sudo service lightdm stop' if you are on a standard ubuntu installation.
[22:11] <minimec> arcsky: Afterwards 'sudo service lightdm start && exit'
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> pozz, The other thing I have noticed about using a dist-upgrade is it will by pass a partial upgrade which will show in the update manager gui. Run it and make sure you are not upgrading when this is showing.
[22:13] <jjavaholic> my ubuntu system is not picking up usb devices what could possibly be going wrong?
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> pozz, I had the vlc daily PPA running and this was causing a partial upgrade notice and messing with my upgrades in general.
[22:13] <sharpnel> 1
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> jjavaholic, Not showing if you run lsusb?
[22:14] <arcsky> minimec: thanks
[22:18] <glitsj16> Thomas_: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2182652 ? Sounds very similar
[22:19] <Thomas_> Thanks glebihan
[22:19] <Thomas_> glitsj16, *
[22:28] <pozz> wilee-nilee. do you mean run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or run the GUI?
[22:28] <pozz> the gui does show the partial update thing (before I do dist-upgrade) and then fails to update anything. so thats why I run dist-upgrade
[22:29] <zykotick9> pozz: NEVER run a "partial" upgrade!  that means "your system will be broken"
[22:29] <vlad24bit> "sudo do-release-upgrade" you might have to purge ppas that directly affect the ubuntu framework
[22:30] <salvo> salve
[22:30] <salvo> ce nessuni
[22:30] <salvo> o
[22:31] <genii> !it | salvo
[22:32] <zykotick9> pozz: fyi, you can run "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade" to upgrade what IS possible... but in your case, i'm guess things are "broken" at this point... just fyi, for HOPEFULLY never again
[22:33] <pozz> okay, it does not let me do partial upgrade anways (unless dist-upgrade forces it)... i will put "sudo do-release-upgrade" on my list of things to do after i reboot
[22:33] <clifter> TomAstro: Thanks for links
[22:36] <jimgroth> Hey guys. What is the best way to do backups on Ubuntu Server?
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  rsync is fast
[22:37] <zykotick9> jimgroth: IMO, backup A) the data you want to save AND B) the config files you want to save - onto "other media".  YMMV
[22:38] <jimgroth> I'm pretty much a newbie. ^^
[22:39] <jimgroth> So far I've figured out that crontab is used to do periodic tasks
[22:39] <jimgroth> correct?
[22:39] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  you can also create a cron task with all wildcards, to have realtime sync with a backup medium
[22:40] <lapidary> ah ha! my vhost is filtering smtp port for inbound email; I also know why tls wasn't working right as well, my signed cert is not recognized, I need to add startssl to the web of trust on postfix, or create a new self signed cert.
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> jimgroth  like so : * * * * * rsync [source] [dest]
[22:41] <geirha> MonkeyDust: Sounds dangerous
[22:41] <zykotick9> geirha: +1
[22:41]  * jimgroth tilts head
[22:41] <jimgroth> Why is that?
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> geirha  i tried it as a test (one folder to usb), it works
[22:44] <jimgroth> Would the "all star" thing risk doing it too often and bogging down the machine?
[22:44] <xangua> guys I can't mount a virgin cd-r , any advise¿
[22:45] <geirha> MonkeyDust: If the initial rsync takes more than one minute, you'll suddenly have two rsyncs trying to sync the same data, which will likely slow both of them, and if it takes more than two minutes, you'll have three rsyncs running ...
[22:45] <scienziata> jimroth, how often would you like your backup?
[22:45] <jimgroth> Once a day would be good
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> geirha  the actual example I found, was: */5 interval
[22:46] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: what do you use that server for? private toy or business?
[22:46] <scienziata> jimgroth, then replace all asterisks with "1      3       *       *       * "
[22:46] <jimgroth> Just learning
[22:47] <jimgroth> I do want to learn the right way to do things but for now I'm happy to just get data backed up.
[22:47] <melkor> Is saucy out now?
[22:47] <cloq> hey there, running 13.04 on Latitude E6430, my WiFi network card suddenly stopped seeing a particular WiFi network for some reason (other devices can see it just fine); networkmanager doesn't see it as well as `iwlist eth1 scanning`, any idea what might be going wrong?
[22:47] <jimgroth> scienziata: Thanks. I just figured out how to use crontab. :)
[22:47] <cloq> restart didn't help
[22:47] <cloq> and I can see other networks around
[22:47] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: may i suggest dirvish. it is made from crontab and rsync and combines those two in a very nice way. you controll drivish with easy to understand config files
[22:47] <glitsj16> melkor: it is yes
[22:47] <xangua> !saucy | melkor
[22:48] <jimgroth> Benkinooby: Thanks. I'll check it out. :)
[22:48] <melkor> Just noticed the latest mainline kernel has been bumped up to trusty.
[22:48] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: so dirvish is somewhere above raw rsync & crontab, but below fully blown backup solutions
[22:49] <geirha> MonkeyDust: Well, if we're taking gigabytes and a slow hard drive, it'll easily exceed five minutes
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: there are business scale backup solutions in the repositories but i forgot their names. dirvish aims at advanced users and small business
[22:49] <Benkinooby> that's how i see it
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: also if you're on a server you want tmux ;)
[22:49] <Benkinooby> jimgroth: it's like screen but better :)
[22:50] <jimgroth> Slow down. ^^
[22:50] <scienziata> jimgroth, if this is a directly connected harddrive, you could use "cp -R -p srcdir dstdir" instead of rsync
[22:50] <jimgroth> It's going to be a network drive
[22:50] <jimgroth> on a NAS
[22:50] <jimgroth> I managed to connect it but if there was a connection issue my system would freeze. >.<
[22:50] <zykotick9> scienziata: even locally, i'd say rsync is better choice then cp...
[22:52] <jimgroth> Thanks for the help guys. I'll be sure to come back with followup questions after reading up a bit and playing on the VM. :)
[22:53] <DrGrov> bekks: Still there? About Conky, does the default repo supply a GUI version of it?
[22:56] <Benkinooby> DrGrov: conky is for gui
[22:57] <Benkinooby> DrGrov: it will blend in to your desktop background/wallpaper
[22:58] <zykotick9> Benkinooby: there is a conky-cli btw.
[23:01] <cyso> hello call can somebody tell how i install a older kernel with dkms
[23:02] <bekks> cyso: On Manjaro?
[23:02] <cyso> no lubuntu
[23:03] <bekks> cyso: then pastebin uname -a and lsb_release -a please, so we know which lubuntu you are on actually.
[23:04] <DrGrov> Benkinooby: Ah okay. That is great, I shall download it right away then. Want to check up on CPU temperature etc.
[23:04] <DrGrov> Benkinooby: Thanks.
[23:05] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468703
[23:05] <Ubnoobtu> Hey all, Can someone point me in the right direction of changing user account passwords, and enabling t so when the laptop reboots, it doesn't log in automatically?
[23:06] <ziyagi> Does anyone know if wubi will be supported for the next LTS release? Or is that whole idea dead now
[23:06] <zykotick9> ziyagi: it's dead...
[23:07] <cyso> no output if i tipe lsb_release
[23:07] <bekks> cyso: type: lsb_release -a
[23:07] <Anon1> with 'users and groups' from the menu...? @ubnoobtu
[23:07] <zykotick9> cyso: no output or "No LSB modules are available."?  if the later, try "lsb_release -a"
[23:08] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468708
[23:08] <cyso> i got it
[23:09] <cyso> i want to install in 2 new kernels so that i can choice it in grub
[23:09] <minimec> Ubnoobtu: To disable autologin 'sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' delete the name on the 'autologin-user=' line
[23:09] <Anon1> toooooo late XD @minimec
[23:10] <cyso> i know that works with dkms perfektly
[23:10] <minimec> Anon1: Yeah... Sh.. happens
[23:11] <minimec> Anon1: 2nd part would have been 'man passwd' and 'man adduser', but ...
[23:12] <cyso> bekks? do u know how to install 2 kernels so that i can choice it in grub with dkms
[23:12] <cyso> http://pastie.org/8468715
[23:13] <bekks> install dkms, install the kernels as usual.
[23:13] <zykotick9> cyso: ahhh, dkms is kernel module support... which is used to build modules for that kernel.  it's not used to boot other kernels...
[23:13] <cyso> dkms i installed but i dont kow how i do install in terminal the kernels
[23:14] <cyso> i need the 3.10 and 3.5
[23:14] <bekks> cyso: those arent available for 13.10
[23:15] <cyso> oh ok
[23:15] <minimec> cyso: If you use linux-image deb packages, just install the package. If you have modules to add (like Virtualbox), you also need the linux-headers, for the explicit kernel version and the kernel series.
[23:16] <minimec> cyso: Let's say you want the 'saucy' 3.12 kernel, look here ... http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/
[23:16] <ikonia> or don't do that
[23:17] <ikonia> as you shouldn't be mixing kenrel versions, or unpatched versions unless you really understand the implications
[23:17] <redixot> hi all, plz help me i was upgrading my ubuntu 13.4 to 13.10 but decided to turn off the pc halfway thru the update coz i had to leave, now when i log into my ubuntu everythings messed up and keep getting erorr mesages, many stuff missing, how can i re upgrade? i have dualboot w/ windows. thx
[23:17] <snake_> Hello, i know it's the wrong channel to ask but i still ask
[23:17] <minimec> cyso: ikonia: I agree...
[23:17] <snake_> if i want to mount a cifs share on raspberry pi running Xbian, i get error code 13
[23:17] <ikonia> snake_: then don't
[23:18] <snake_> BUT if i run it with -o sec=ntlmv2 it works fine
[23:18] <ikonia> snake_: if you know it's the wrong channel, please don't ask, use the right channel
[23:18] <Eth0R3> heya
[23:18] <snake_> ikonia: the guys in #xbian are idle
[23:18] <ikonia> snake_: sorry, that's not this channels problem to pickup the slack
[23:18] <Eth0R3> need some help here, how can i disable permanently the lock screen on gnome 3.10 using ubuntu 13.10
[23:18] <Eth0R3> anyone can help please
[23:19] <cyso> minimec those are deb files so i dont have to run in terminal?
[23:20] <dannymichel> What channel would I go to for help with this? http://goo.gl/xFlnIO
[23:20] <cyso> dobleklick is enough
[23:20] <fishscene> Eth0R3: https://www.google.com/#q=how+to+disable+lock+screen+on+gnome+3.10
[23:20] <minimec> cyso: There are multiple possibilities for installation with GUI or Terminal.
[23:21] <redixot> hi all, i was upgrading my ubuntu 13.4 to 13.10 but decided to turn off the pc halfway thru the update coz i had to leave, now when i log into my ubuntu everythings messed up and keep getting erorr mesages, many stuff missing, how can i re upgrade? i have dualboot w/ windows. thx
[23:22] <Eth0R3> fishscene: ive tryed allmost everyting using google search
[23:22] <Eth0R3> and nothing, i search before ask here!
[23:23] <phong_> hi guys, is there any 3d benchmark for ubuntu?
[23:23] <fishscene> Eth0R3: Did you reboot your computer after making the changes?
[23:23] <Eth0R3> yes
[23:23] <Eth0R3> and still the same
[23:23] <Eth0R3> the annoying thing is that i am watching flash stream and after X min it switches to the lock
[23:24] <reisio> phong_: glxgears
[23:24] <fishscene> Eth0R3: You've tried: dconf-editor
[23:24] <fishscene> /org/gnome/desktop/lockdown/disable-lock-screen
[23:24] <Eth0R3> yes
[23:25] <minimec> Eth0R3: That should be possible with dconf-editor. Look in >org>gnome>desktop>lockdown
[23:25] <fishscene> Eth0R3: apparently it is a known bug, but not many people know how to resolve it. More info here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1336052
[23:26] <Eth0R3> there is no lockdown on dcon
[23:26] <Eth0R3> dconf
[23:26] <Eth0R3> i ve saw that page
[23:26] <minimec> Eth0R3: hmm... screensaveer?
[23:26] <Eth0R3> too
[23:26] <Eth0R3> i am trying to run on startup gnome-screensave
[23:33] <pc-world> What's up with ppa.launchpad.net? Getting an extremely low download speed.
[23:33] <f3ck4r> you want to disable or enable the screensaver?!
[23:34] <BuntuLover> pc-World: Not sure.
[23:34] <pc-world> so can others reproduce this?
[23:35] <BuntuLover> pc-world:  Will try to download a package from PPA now.
[23:35] <pc-world> BuntuLover: I'm trying to upgrade xorg-edgers and get between 10-80 kB/s
[23:36] <pc-world> "ping ppa.launchpad.net" leads to a domain called haetae.canonical.com, don't know if that's normal or not
[23:36] <BuntuLover> Canonical owns Launchpad.
[23:37] <pc-world> well, I know that, but I'm not sure if the subdomain has always been that one
[23:37] <glitsj16> pc-world: they suffered a major power outage yesterday.. might still be shaky
[23:38] <pc-world> glitsj16: that might explain it, thanks
[23:38] <BuntuLover> pc-world: I think that has always been the subdomain but not entirely sure. and glitsj16 is right.
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just ran i dist-upgrade and it updated to the newest kernal but now when i boot ubuntu
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> i get a blackscreen
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> i had the previous kernal update prior to updating
[23:41] <Psil0Cybin> my machine is always up to date but i never got a blackscreen from updating
[23:42] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: what Ubuntu release are you on?
[23:42] <Psil0Cybin> 12.04 lts
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the ubuntu splash screen then i just get a blackscreen :S
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> its so odd
[23:43] <Psil0Cybin> so i have to go back to the previous kernal version to get back in
[23:44] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: what graphics driver?
[23:45] <Psil0Cybin> pc-world: i am unsure i am using an aspire one acer D270-1628
[23:46] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: so Intel probably
[23:47] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: pc-world: 'lspci | grep VGA' to be sure...
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[23:48] <pc-world> I'm not on 12.04, I don't know from which kernel version to which one they updated
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> how can o find out so i can show u
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> because i am so mind boggled.
[23:48] <Psil0Cybin> i forgot to write it down when i booted in to the previous kernal
[23:49] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: 'uname -a' 'cat /etc/issue'
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> Linux stashb0x 3.2.0-55-generic-pae #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 14:03:15 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[23:49] <Psil0Cybin> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> is what those both commands stated.
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> the old kernal version works perfectly
[23:50] <Psil0Cybin> i dunno what they changed >.<
[23:50]  * Psil0Cybin rabbles rabbles.
[23:51] <minimec> Psil0Cybin: Try to boot the previous kernel. Hold the left <shift> key right after the computer Boot screen and choose a different kernel.
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> i did
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> thats how im talkning to you now
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> it works perfectly
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> i just dont like using outdated kernal versions
[23:51] <HeathHayle> How to I connect to a non authica samba share?
[23:51] <Psil0Cybin> unless your suggesting to use it? for now..
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> someone said there is a command before i could execute that would fixs this problem
[23:52] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot find a source of it on the forums :S
[23:52] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: I guess the kernel update was a bug and/or security fix release, so very surprising that it had the effects you're describing
[23:53] <pc-world> too bad it's pretty difficult to get a decent release history from the repos
[23:53] <Psil0Cybin> darn
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> so what can i do pc-world?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> do you guys suggest i stick to an older version?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps post on the forums?
[23:54] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: I don't know really; so the screen blacks out as soon as unity-greeter would usually appear?
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> instead of the login screen
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> i get a blackscreen
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> usually before i would get a terminal login
[23:54] <Psil0Cybin> that would suggest startx failed or startxfce4
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> but now i just get a blackscreen as if my laptop is not working
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> but it is...
[23:55] <Psil0Cybin> because previous kernal versions work perfect.
[23:55] <pc-world> Psil0Cybin: you might want to file a bug on Launchpad; can you switch to a tty after the screen blacks out?
[23:56] <bekks> Psil0Cybin: Did you already use the nomodeset kernel option?
[23:56] <pc-world> and can you reboot via Alt+Print+B, to rule out a kernel freeze? (though pretty unlikely)?
[23:57] <FuZi0N> hmmm
[23:57] <FuZi0N> im getting this error
[23:57] <FuZi0N> RTNETLINK answes: File exists
[23:57] <FuZi0N> Failed to bring up eth0.
[23:57] <FloodBot1> FuZi0N: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <FuZi0N> how can i fix this?
[23:57] <FuZi0N> i tried googling it but most ppl have the problem with multiple gateways
[23:57] <FuZi0N> however, i only have 1
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> no no no
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> someone suggested a nomodset
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> kernal option
[23:57] <Psil0Cybin> how do i go about doing that
[23:57] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <bekks> !nomodeset | Psil0Cybin
[23:59] <Psil0Cybin> okayt perfect im going to ry it and report back